[08:19] <dpvnme> hi
[08:19] <dpvnme> i have a bit problem with the sound card, is this the right place to ask?
[08:20] <pwnguin> everyone asks that and then leaves after an hour with no response
[08:21] <dpvnme> hum
[08:21] <dpvnme> can you help me?
[08:21] <pwnguin> maybe
[08:21] <dpvnme> ok, i have an acer a135
[08:21] <pwnguin> ok
[08:21] <dpvnme> everything works fine except the sound card
[08:21] <pwnguin> cool
[08:21] <dpvnme> i've been reading the wiki and tutorial
[08:22] <dpvnme> somewhere in the compiling process, i get a lot of errors
[08:22] <pwnguin> what?
[08:22] <pwnguin> where did we go from broken sound card to compiling things?
[08:23] <dpvnme> i guess it's not compiling, more like extracting
[08:23] <pwnguin> can you link to the wiki page you're following
[08:23] <pwnguin> ?
[08:23] <dpvnme> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000C200_89224MG
[08:24] <dpvnme> i got to the part where they ask to do these thing:
[08:24] <dpvnme> cd alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3  ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel make sudo make install  cd ../alsa-lib-1.0.14rc3 ./configure sudo make install  cd ../alsa-utils-1.0.14rc2 ./configure sudo make install
[08:24] <pwnguin> that's basically compiling..
[08:25] <pwnguin> which is fine
[08:25] <dpvnme> yes, then next, they ask me to do this: Now we remove the old and insert the new alsa module:
[08:25] <dpvnme> with this command: sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[08:26] <dpvnme> that's where the error comes in, some folder suppose to be there but it's not
[08:26] <pwnguin> are you running ubuntu 7.04?
[08:26] <dpvnme> the latest
[08:27] <dpvnme> it just came out few days ago
[08:27] <pwnguin> gutsy?
[08:27] <dpvnme> and i did a fresh install
[08:27] <dpvnme> yes
[08:27] <pwnguin> ok
[08:28] <pwnguin> well
[08:28] <pwnguin> you're basically building alsa from source
[08:28] <dpvnme> WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-page-alloc.ko': No such file or directory
[08:29] <dpvnme> that's the error
[08:29] <pwnguin> which probably means alsa failed to build
[08:29] <dpvnme> so i went into "core" folder
[08:29] <dpvnme> i see
[08:29] <pwnguin> anything there?
[08:29] <dpvnme> nothing
[08:29] <pwnguin> yea
[08:29] <pwnguin> failed to build
[08:30] <pwnguin> go back to alsa driver directory where you ran make install
[08:30] <pwnguin> run "make clean"
[08:30] <dpvnme> ok
[08:31] <pwnguin> maybe "sudo make clean"
[08:31] <pwnguin> then do sudo make
[08:31] <pwnguin> we'll see if it builds
[08:31] <dpvnme> ok, it's running
[08:32] <dpvnme> and hey, thank you for helping
[08:32] <pwnguin> that guide is written for edgy / gutsy on a laptop that isnt your model. i donno how useful it will be for you
[08:32] <dpvnme> well, it came from this link
[08:32] <dpvnme> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=501422
[08:33] <pwnguin> im also not sure if alsa plays well with unmatched kernels
[08:34] <pwnguin> alsa's really not where ive been spending much attention, in part because it seems a huge PITA to build
[08:35] <dpvnme> yeah, it end up with bunch of errors
[08:36] <pwnguin> i that is the source of your troubles
[08:36] <pwnguin> it couldnt find that .ko because that step failed to make one
[08:36] <dpvnme> i see
[08:37] <dpvnme> yeah, there's no .ko file found
[08:37] <dpvnme> so am i using the wrong driver?
[08:37] <pwnguin> well
[08:37] <pwnguin> its hard to say
[08:37] <pwnguin> without a good build log to look at
[08:38] <dpvnme> and when i try to install wine, it tells me this:  Depends: libaudio2  but it is not installable
[08:38] <dpvnme> so the sound card must work to run wine?
[08:38] <pwnguin> hmm
[08:38] <pwnguin> i dont think so?
[08:39] <dpvnme> The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[08:39] <pwnguin> libaudio2 is a network audio system
[08:39] <dpvnme> that's what i see when i click on the volume icon
[08:39] <pwnguin> right
[08:39] <pwnguin> you have no sound module
[08:40] <dpvnme> and alsa is one of them?
[08:40] <pwnguin> alsa is the advanced linux sound architecture - A.L.S.A.
[08:41] <dpvnme> so is it more like of a generic sound module?
[08:41] <pwnguin> no
[08:41] <pwnguin> its a collection of several specific sound modules
[08:41] <pwnguin> and a common software interface that applications can use
[08:41] <pwnguin> in this case, it seems the snd-intel driver is not so good for you
[08:42] <pwnguin> err
[08:42] <pwnguin> hda-intel
[08:43] <dpvnme> does ubuntu have any driver checking utility?
[08:43] <dpvnme> i mean to tell which modules is good for this hardware
[08:44] <pwnguin> not exactly, but we have ways of making intelligent guesses
[08:44] <pwnguin> run lspci and look for the line that says something about audio or sound
[08:45] <dpvnme> in the console?
[08:45] <pwnguin> yea
[08:45] <pwnguin> ok
[08:45] <pwnguin> you have an acer laptop
[08:45] <pwnguin> model a135
[08:45] <dpvnme> yes
[08:45] <pwnguin> the ubuntu thread is for a toshiba a135
[08:46] <dpvnme> no
[08:46] <dpvnme> i'm sorry
[08:46] <dpvnme> it's a toshiba
[08:46] <dpvnme> heheh
[08:46] <dpvnme> acer is the other one i have
[08:46] <pwnguin> if you're lying to me, it wont help either of us
[08:46] <dpvnme> no, it's a toshiba satellite a135-s4656
[08:47] <pwnguin> alrighty
[08:47] <pwnguin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaSatelliteA135
[08:47] <pwnguin> that look familiar?
[08:47] <pwnguin> heh
[08:48] <dpvnme> yes
[08:48] <dpvnme> wow
[08:48] <dpvnme> so just add one line in it?
[08:48] <pwnguin> ... it may be a bit late for that
[08:49] <dpvnme> what do you mean?
[08:49] <pwnguin> modprobe cant find the sound module anymore
[08:50] <dpvnme> so do i have to do a fresh install of ubuntu again?
[08:50] <pwnguin> i think it'll help
[08:51] <dpvnme> and then add the line
[08:51] <dpvnme> ?
[08:51] <pwnguin> thats what i'd do first
[08:51] <pwnguin> before doing anything like "make install"
[08:52] <pwnguin> i understand its painful, but this is the price of early adoption
[08:52] <pwnguin> sometimes what worked in an older version, especially when it involves patching source code, doesn't work anymore
[08:52] <dpvnme> i see
[08:53] <dpvnme> so let me get it right, right after install ubuntu
[08:53] <dpvnme> i go download alsa
[08:53] <pwnguin> woa
[08:53] <dpvnme> before compiling
[08:53] <dpvnme> edit the file?
[08:53] <pwnguin> reinstall, and if it doesnt work, come back here
[08:53] <pwnguin> we'll diagnose the root problem, document it, and see about getting it fixed in ubuntu itself
[08:54] <dpvnme> ok
[08:54] <dpvnme> but with the default installation, the sound does not work
[08:54] <pwnguin> so i hear
[08:54] <pwnguin> the question is why
[08:54] <dpvnme> i install ubuntu this morning
[08:54] <dpvnme> ok
[08:54] <pwnguin> and what exactly needs fixing
[08:55] <dpvnme> so let me do a fresh reinstall and come back here then
[09:08] <pwnguin> anyone have an idea why tifm stopped working?