/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/10/18/#ubuntu.txt

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feierfoxneed an easy way to transcode AVI to DVD-Standard00:00
eighty4off the top of my head i don't know neopsyche, i'm not a web developer00:00
bottigerHoboBen: before something exciting happens (like KDE4) I don't care about upgrading00:00
aguitelDr_willis: rtl818x00:00
HoboBenbottiger, aye - I suppose I can always turn off anything more I don't need like autoprinter detection00:00
neopsycheeighty4: thanks for the tip though00:00
swmiller7@feierfox: Devede00:00
atlfalcons866if i am running ubuntu gutsy rc1 will i have to upgrade to gutsy tomorrow00:00
feierfoxi treid Devede00:00
feierfoxwhat kbps should i use?00:01
bottigeratlfalcons866: no - just run update and upgrade00:01
feierfoxi there a stadard?00:01
Dr_willisatlfalcons866,  my system says its up to date... i will update/upgrade again in a few days. :)00:01
feierfoxi need a number round about 450000:01
swmiller7Try tovid maybe you likr that better00:01
bottigeratlfalcons866: the usual stuff00:01
swmiller7What do you mean standard?00:01
MoNsTeRhow do i veiw my winblows harddrive00:02
swmiller7you can set that in the video setting s of devede00:02
squizzlelalala00:02
feierfoxstandard ---> my stand-alone should play them00:02
axjvMoNsTeR: ntfs-3g00:02
swmiller7mine plays them fine00:02
swmiller7make sure you have your settings right00:02
MoNsTeRaxjv: whats that?00:02
feierfoxok, i will give devede a try...00:02
SirBob1701I just upgraded to gutsy and it fraged all my tty's on two computers so you guys may want to be warey of updating00:02
feierfoxwhat could i make wrong?00:02
swmiller7pal vs ntsc00:03
ebirtaidmonster:  it allows you to read/write ntfs00:03
feierfoxah00:03
Dr_willisMoNsTeR,  Mount them,  theres several web site/factoids on doing it. ntfs-3g lets you read/write to them.00:03
feierfoxyes...00:03
Dr_willis!ntfs00:03
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse00:03
atlfalcons866ntfs sucks00:03
ebirtaidyep00:03
feierfoxpal, video: 4500 kbps audio 288kbps... that should be enough00:03
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leexgxpal00:03
swmiller7if you player is a pal player00:03
feierfoxit is00:03
feierfoxevery player here is a pal player00:04
swmiller7then it should work fine00:04
MoNsTeRDr_willis: those dont work :[ ive tried those00:04
feierfoxthanks00:04
swmiller7I don't know where here is00:04
aguitelanyone use REALTEK RTL8180L 802.11b MAC00:04
ebirtaidapparently not if you didnt know what it was monster00:04
swmiller7all the players here are ntsc00:04
feierfox"PAL-Country"00:04
Dr_willisMoNsTeR,  time to learn the linux fundamentals i guess and learn to add a proper fstab entry.00:04
swmiller7lol00:04
feierfoxntsc = not the same color00:04
Dr_willisMoNsTeR,  example fstab for my HD. -->    /dev/sda2  /media/sda2 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 100:05
neopsycheHeres something I have been wondering about for a while.. I noticed there is a nice palm sync option in Gnome / ubuntu ... I have a Sony Erricson p910i  which is also a smart phone / PDA ... is there any easy way to synchronise this ??? like with palm sync?00:05
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neopsyche?00:07
ebirtaidthe silence wasn't indicative of noone knowing?00:07
eighty4neopsyche, no idea but i guess as it's a closed platform there isn't anything.00:08
hurricaneharryneopsyche tough question....00:08
ashfaqHello just upgraded to gutsy, lost sound, also I am not able to see my ntfs partitions pl help00:08
Dr_willisas for ntfs..  check the fstab.   see if it still has entries if not add them.. example...00:08
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marinae00:08
Dr_willis  /dev/sda2  /media/sda2 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 100:09
neopsycheeighty4: isnt palm also a closed platform?00:09
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eighty4yeah but it's also a million years old ;-)00:09
Fryguy--hrmm.. I turned on my computer today and my background disappeared, I now have a solid white background and going to appearance preferences to change it doesn't do anything.  How can I change my desktop background back to something more useful00:09
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neopsycheFryguy: did you change anything in your graphics settings?00:09
swmiller7anybody else notice that in the last five days the ubuntu forums has averaged over 600 new members a  day?00:09
ashfaqDr_willis: I am a newbee help me do it00:09
Fryguy--neopsyche: no nothing00:09
Fryguy--neopsyche: I turned off computer last night, turn it on today and I get solid white background that I can't seem to change00:10
neopsycheFryguy--: perhaps a program changed your gfx if you have installed one recently00:10
Dr_willisashfaq,  edit the fstab file?   gksudo gedit /etc/fstab (backup your original first)00:10
ebirtaidwhen you select any other background it stays white?00:10
neopsycheFryguy--: perhaps some files are corrupted.00:10
Jimdbyou delete or move the file used for your back ground?  right click on the desktop and choose background and add a new one.00:10
neopsycheFryguy--: have you tried logging in with a different user account?00:10
JDSBlueDevlhi, i have a question regarding Compiz Fusion support.  My specs are 1 GHz PIII, 512 MB RAM, and nVidia NV5M64 graphics card.  I see that Gutsy uses Compiz Fusion by default.  Do I need to switch back to Metacity, or can Compiz Fusion run on my computer?00:10
Woodersoni was installing a package and i closed it now it wont go away00:11
Fryguy--neopsyche: I only have one account, I guess I could make another one and try or something00:11
Paddy_EIREWooderson, explain in more detail00:11
neopsycheFryguy--: yes try that .. then you will know if it is a problem with that account or your core installation.00:11
Fast2is there an iso for the final release available yet?00:11
eighty4Fast2, no00:11
Woodersoni downloaded this program its .deb file i double clicked it it started installing then it got stuck so i clicked cancel and the window is still up00:11
ebirtaidfast2 woudlnt it make more sense to check the website00:12
neopsycheFryguy--: also perhaps.. try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg00:12
Jimdbmetacity is a window manager, so is compiz.  compiz is the 3d window manager.  metacity is the 2d manager00:12
ebirtaidwooderson use xkill00:12
neopsycheFryguy--: with your default settings.. but as a last resort00:12
Woodersonso like... how00:12
JDSBlueDevlI know, but is Compiz going to grind my computer to a halt?  I hear it's graphics-intensive00:12
Woodersonsudo xkill?00:12
Fast2edgy was available via ftp prior to the official website annoucement00:12
ebirtaidyes00:12
VletJDSBlueDevl: it's best to have a good 3d card00:12
Paddy_EIREWooderson, just xkill00:12
Woodersono00:12
swmiller7 JDSBlueDevl: should work fine00:12
ebirtaidthen click the window you want to kill00:12
Paddy_EIREno sudo00:13
ebirtaidsudo would also work though unneccessary, and in this case it wouldnt hurt00:13
cre8torxhi00:13
Jimdbif it kills your performance switch back to metacity and use the 2d effects. but on a solid computer compiz doesn't bring it to a grinding halt.00:13
JDSBlueDevlwould it work with an old NV5M64 card?00:13
eighty4Fast2, #ubuntu-release-party and this channel will probably have an announcement when it's out.00:13
Fast2anyone know the official time of release then?00:13
meeperwhy does ubuntu use gnome and not kde?00:13
crimsunFast2: no.00:13
ebirtaidkubuntu uses kde meeper00:13
Paddy_EIREmeeper, kubuntu00:13
ebirtaidthats why00:13
eighty4Fast2, no-one.00:13
Woodersonw00t00:13
Woodersonsudo xkilled worked00:13
Paddy_EIREmeeper, and gnome is better than bloat00:13
youknowmeI'm trying to navigate my file system through the terminal, but everytime I come across a filename with a space in it I can't navigate the terminal because it sees the spaces as the end of the command string.00:13
youknowmeWhat am I doing wrong? I know it must be an obvious answers..00:13
Vletmeeper: because Xenu told them to do it00:14
Wooderson!vhost00:14
Paddy_EIREVlet, the great lord00:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vhost - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:14
Vletyouknowme: put a \ in front of the space00:14
JDSBlueDevluse quotes around the file, from root directory to end of file00:14
Jimdbthat's a 64mb card.  i wouldn't even want it...you'll need the accelerated drivers for it.  If you get that and you run at a relatively low resolution 1024x768, you should be ok.00:14
LM1does anyone here have a list of packages in gutsy00:14
eegoreLoks like they included Compiz Fusion in Gutsy00:14
eighty4youknowme, tab completion is your friend :-)00:14
LM1or a link00:14
Fast2yeah, no doubt there are some ubuntu dev bods working like crazy right now!!¬!00:14
JDSBlueDevlor the backslash works too00:14
Woodersonif anyone knows how i can make a vhost can u please PM me00:14
youknowmeVlet, 1 sec, I'll try00:14
neopsychecheers all. Keep well.00:14
Fast2w00t00:14
neopsycheFryguy--: ask for help if you are reconfigureing xorg.conf00:14
neopsyche;-)00:14
eighty4LM1, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/00:14
eegoreIf it is stable and functional , Vista make have to take notice00:15
youknowmeVlet, no go00:15
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Vletyouknowme: you know that you can also start typing a few letters of the file or directory name, and hit tab, and it should complete it automaticallty00:15
ebirtaideegore: doubtful00:15
eegoreor sue Cannonical00:15
sorbixcan I just say that getting ati 3d support has to be one of the most frustrating things about ubuntu00:15
orbstrahey mediatomb is giving me an error about upnp_cleanup: unregister root device failed... and it cannot bind to socket.. I can pastebin the full error if someone is willing to help00:15
eegoreLets go for the sue option00:15
ebirtaidnah00:15
Vletyouknowme: you used a backslash like this \, not a forward slash like this /, right?00:15
ebirtaidwont happen00:15
LM1awesome! thanks!00:15
Sir_Sidjoin #ubuntu-dev00:15
ashfaqDr_willis:How do I edit, the drives were listed with the command but not accessable00:16
eegoreYou mean M$ would have to prove they actualy developed something rather than stealing it?00:16
ebirtaidwell00:16
Mr_Giraffehi, does anybody here have experience with SSH?00:16
ebirtaidcompiz is not developed by canonical00:16
pommerwooooo00:16
ebirtaidso your whole arguement is moot00:16
pommerberyl rawks00:16
Dr_willisashfaq,  the command ' gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  '  should let you edit the file (backup your original first)  NOW as to learning what TO edit - that may take a little more work.00:16
VletMr_Giraffe: lots do - what's your question?00:16
pommereven my mutha want this stuff00:17
Dr_willis!ntfs00:17
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse00:17
pommertho i still got issues installing source stuff00:17
eegoreI already have an 80 gig partition on my lappy open and waiting for it00:17
youknowmeVlet, http://pastebin.com/m1b74bbab00:17
Mr_GiraffeVlet, i set an account up for my friend and it works, but when i hit any non-alphanumeric characters (i.e. up/down arrows, escape, tab, etc) they don't perform any functions00:17
pommerwhere you find good beryl caps people?... and sky domes?00:17
Mr_Girafferather, they just print characters on the screen00:17
Dr_willisashfaq,  for example my 'external' windows drive has a line like -->  /dev/sdg1 /media/sdg1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 100:17
ebirtaidpommer:  I think there's a site called beryl-look00:18
ebirtaidthere is a link from gnome-look anyway I believe00:18
Dr_willisashfaq,  your /dev/XXXX and /media/XXXX will differ.  the /media/XXXX directory MUST exist befor you can mouhnt the device.00:18
orbstraanyone?00:18
SteamMachineCan anyone actually see me?00:18
Vletyouknowme: I just said, be sure you're using a BACKSLASH like this: \ not a forward slash like this: / :)00:18
eighty4SteamMachine, yes. what's your question?00:18
pommerwhy would ya need windows if you got ubuntu nways... i mean for real.. get wine or that other proggy and play ya stuff through there... ubunut even with beryl aint intensive anyways... and wine runs stuff good00:18
ebirtaidsteammachine: no00:18
youknowmeVlet, and therein lies the problem, thanks. I knew it was a stupid mistake00:18
pasais there a program that can set a dual view for me with ati card00:18
roadfishare there Wi-Fi headphones that can pick up (encrpyted) audio put out on Wi-Fi ... and are there Ubuntu packages for such devices? I don't seem to get much when searching the web.00:18
youknowmeVlet, :)00:19
pommerim playing hl2 on one screen and watching utube on another and im kinda chatting on x-chat too o.O00:19
pommergo figure00:19
Dr_willispommer,  with wine.. Ive noticed either it runs stuff good.. or not at all.00:19
pommertry do that easy on windows00:19
euricohello00:19
VletMr_Giraffe: what were you expecting... like using the up arrow as a command history navigator?00:19
gumby600m_100:19
Mr_GiraffeVlet, yeah00:19
euricoI can't read from my CDROM device00:19
Mr_Giraffebut his shell was set to sh, not bash00:19
pommercompatibily aint gunna be 100% ever00:19
Mr_Giraffethat might be it00:19
pommernot even windows select software with the groovy stuff all over it.. not all it works on windows00:20
VletMr_Giraffe: so he he or she types 'ls', hits enter, then hits the up arrow, it doesn't being up 'ls' again?00:20
Tech-Mikesup peeps, got a prob - i left this morning, leaving the comp on (ubuntu fiesty 7.04 amd64) and when i just got home....nothn would run, it would say "starting <app name>" in taskbar ... rebooted a couple times - still acting retarted00:20
VletMr_Giraffe: I might suspect his or her ssh client? what client is in use?00:20
Tech-Mikethis happend once before but a reboot solved it00:20
swmiller7 pommer: I keep windows for halo00:20
Mr_GiraffeVlet, it appears to be working now00:20
Woodersonhow can i make a vhost with out buying a domain??00:20
SteamMachineOh right, sorry I wasn't sure if... anyway.00:20
ebirtaidwooderson:  you dont?00:20
VletMr_Giraffe: ahh, maybe some monkeys were messing with the giraffe :)00:21
Woodersononly way is thru a domain?00:21
ebirtaidor you buy a shell that offers them00:21
SteamMachineI have a camera here, a Kodak EAsyShare C530.00:21
niekieWooderson: well..00:21
Mr_Giraffei edited /etc/passwd so his shell is bash instead of sh, that was the problem00:21
niekieWooderson: you can't even if you buy a domain.00:21
VletMr_Giraffe: ahh - good to know.00:21
Mr_GiraffeVlet, my computer is actually named singe (monkey) oddly enough :P00:21
niekieYou also need a provider that will set rDNS for you.00:21
Woodersonreverse DNS thru doman00:21
Wooderson=\00:21
niekieXS4ALL, a Dutch ISP, allows you to set it yourself.00:21
niekieBut a lot don't.00:21
Vletwhat's the channel for desktop effects?00:21
kitcheVlet: #ubuntu-effects00:22
Vletkitche: thanks!00:22
cre8torxohla00:22
SteamMachineThe computer recognized it, but when I open the directory (with Konqueror) it freezes as it gets to %13 loaded. Or rather, it simply won't go any further.00:23
psyferre_grr... i started messing around with ndiswrapper and while it didn't do anything helpful I now have a wired connection that is all screwed up00:24
bulmerSteamMachine: sometimes that happens to me too, anything i/o that gets hung..freezes the whole system00:25
bulmerso reboot00:25
w00tzillaHow do I kick or boot a remote ssh session?00:25
psyferre_my network manager keeps showing this phantom wired network adapter that doesn't really exist, and every once in a while I can get an IP and browse the internet, but most of the time now00:25
psyferre_*not00:25
SteamMachinethe whole system is frozen though...00:25
SteamMachine*isn't00:26
ebirtaidkill the konqueror process and try again00:26
soundrayw00tzilla: kill the sshd thread that belongs to it00:26
bulmerSteamMachine: you're better off then..so kill the process for that konqueror00:26
aguitelGutsy is available now in the servers!!!!!!!!!!!!!00:26
aguitelGutsy is available now in the servers!!!!!!!!!!!!!00:26
WJIRC-Newbiezomgomgomgomg00:26
subdancerreally?`00:26
subdancer:)00:26
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SteamMachineUhuh.00:26
LjLaguitel: no, it isn't.00:27
SteamMachineStill, I can't do anything with the camera...00:27
subdancerdohh!00:27
aguitelGutsy is available now in the servers!!!!!!!!!!!!!00:27
Paddy_EIRESteamMachine, If the whole system is frozen entirely now.. do this hold alt+SysRq then type REISUB00:27
Vletw00tzilla: "ps -aux | grep ssh" to find their process #, then "kill -9 #" where # is their process number00:27
Capa1Question, I am running Gutsy Gibbon off the live disk --- and I notice a REALLY weird bug, the "title bar" for every window is *HUGE*! -- anyone know why this might be?00:27
SteamMachineIt isn't frozen!00:27
ebirtaidlaffo00:27
Paddy_EIRESteamMachine, then what are you talking about00:27
w00tzillaI remember a way to kill or disconnect an ssh session.  It's been a while and I am having a brain fart.00:27
Vletw00tzilla: "ps -aux | grep ssh" to find their process #, then "kill -9 #" where # is their process number00:27
diaficbed now. SNORE00:28
davidstraussHow can I force sftp sessions to create directories with chmod 770?00:28
SteamMachineThe images from the camera just won't load - ie, some of them appear as a preview, some don't, the progress bar freezes at 13% and when I click on a photo, it seems to load for a moment, then has a black display on Konq.00:28
davidstraussI tried umask, but it just puts a cap on the allowed permissions.00:28
comicinkerhi! I habe a problem with amarok and generic media devices!00:28
SteamMachineIf I attempt to copy them, it won't budge from 0%00:29
smy1220aguitel> what servers is gusty on now00:29
comicinkerwhen I want to copy ogg files amarok tells me the device doesn't support that format00:29
eighty4smy1220, none. it's not out yet.00:29
w00tzillaViet:  That did it.  Thanks.00:29
soundraySteamMachine: do you have a card reader, or did you connect the camera?00:30
blue42comicinker:  what device are you copying the ogg files into?00:30
quick_nickis anyone having extremely low volume problems with gusty?00:30
SteamMachineI connected the camera itself, by USB (obviously)00:30
comicinkerblue42: a generic device (SD card)00:30
Paddy_EIREquick_nick, #ubuntu+100:30
comicinkerwhen I include ogg to the supported formats in the device options, the disapear until the next call00:31
soundraySteamMachine: do you have a card reader that you could use instead? Just to see if you get the same problems.00:31
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, what device are you using.. and does it support ogg00:31
sn0wever since i switched to gutsy, my top bar in gnome shows up at the bottom of the screen after i reboot00:31
SteamMachineI don't believe I do have a card reader.00:31
Paddy_EIREsn0w, #ubuntu+100:32
soundraysn0w: #ubuntu+100:32
comicinkerPaddy_EIRE: its a generic device, a SD card (sde1)00:32
sn0wer the panel, sorry, but it only happens when i have the expand option turned off00:32
sn0wk00:32
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, hmm.. did you format it.. is it full perhaps00:32
comicinkerno, its not full, other formats work (mp3)00:32
Paddy_EIREoh... hmm.. what are you playing the card on00:33
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, ^^00:33
comicinkerits really because of the ogg format00:33
blue42comicinker: off topic... which comic do you ink? lol00:33
blue42comicinker: I'll try to replicate it on my side00:33
Paddy_EIREwhat device are you playing the files on comicinker00:33
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comicinkerPaddy_EIRE: you mean where I'm going to use the SD card?00:34
comicinkerblue42: thanks00:34
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, sorry, but could you explain your problem to me again :)00:34
SirBob1701do any sites have the gutsy iso yet?00:34
ebirtaidNO!00:35
Paddy_EIRESiliconViper, AHHHH00:35
kevinOis there a way to force a xorg.conf rewrite?00:35
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kitcheSirBob1701: read the topic and it should explain where to ask that question00:35
SirBob1701ebirtaid: yikes sorry00:35
Paddy_EIREI hope gutsy is delayed like hell00:35
comicinkerPaddy_EIRE: amarok can't copy other files to my media-player than mp3-files00:35
euricoI can't read from my CDROM device00:35
euricoUbuntu doesn't detect CDROM device00:35
SteamMachineAh! I tried Digicam and it worked.00:35
SteamMachinegosh I'm clever.00:35
ebirtaidhaha00:36
w00tzillaI am not seeing any official 7.10 download options anywhere00:36
SteamMachineThanks anyway guys. (and girls)00:36
kevinOI deleted the wacom information from myt xorg.conf file, is there a way to rewrite it?00:36
eighty4w00tzilla, it's not out yet (see /topic)00:36
bsundhow do i upgrade from feisty to new?00:36
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, are you sure your media player supports ogg00:36
soundraybsund: ask in #ubuntu+100:36
w00tzillaeighty4:  I know, I am just responding to whoever was spamming that it was out.00:36
ebirtaidthat was long ago ;p00:37
ebirtaidkevin0:  did you have a backup?00:37
comicinkerPadddy_EIRE: corse, it's just a generic device (SD-card) and I use it in a pocketPC with tcpmp, which can playback nearly everything00:37
sam55So, whens gutsy to be released? I am looking to download the torrent and start downloading and then seeding as soon as I can00:37
eighty4sam55, it's not out yet (see /topic)00:37
blue42comicinker:  are the ogg files on some sort of fileshare?00:38
ebirtaidthey need to put that shit in the front00:38
kevinOebirtaid: no i dont :/00:38
ebirtaidhmmm00:38
ebirtaidin that case00:38
ebirtaidyou could reconfigure x00:38
soundray!lagnuage | ebirtaid00:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lagnuage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:38
Seeker`!ohmy | ebirtaid00:38
ebirtaidshort of that don't know what to tell you00:38
comicinkerblue42: no, fresh imported with soundjuicer00:38
comicinkershall I send you a example ;)00:38
ebirtaidwah wah00:38
drakyevery time I boot Ubuntu it reverts to safe graphics mode and completely ignores all changes I made to the screen and resolution settings beforehand00:39
sam55ah, thanks <eighty4>.00:39
drakyI can get the screen to work fine until I restart the computer00:39
blue42comicinker: found a link that seems to describe a fix to your problem00:39
blue42cominker:http://www.skachex.com/00:39
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, so I am to understand that the problem is putting an ogg file on to your sd-card.. correct?00:40
AlCan someone shed light on what happened to w32codecs?00:40
klinkok i got it00:40
AlIt's in apt with no installation candidate00:40
Wistesothere00:40
klinksoo00:40
kitche!w32codecs | Al00:40
ubotuAl: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs00:40
klinkwhats the point in this?00:40
nareshovcan someone tell me why # CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL is not set00:40
comicinkerPaddy_EIRE: exactly00:40
nareshov?00:41
soundray!intelhda > nareshov, please read ubotu's private message00:41
nareshov!intelhda00:41
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto00:41
bagheadhey all00:42
blue42comicinker: you need to modify your /.kde/share/config/amarokrc file00:42
nareshovthanks00:42
comicinkerblue42: I'm afraid that I could add  ogg to my supported with the gui, but it alway get lost when I call the options window again00:43
blue42comicinker: the link says to search under the media device sectioni for the SD card, then add .ogg under "supportedFiletypes"00:43
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, have you tried using nautilus00:43
Alah, thanks kitche00:43
bagheadthis question may / probably has been asked already but what time is 7.10 going up - its already the 18th in the UK :-)00:43
tommasis it possible to use existing swap partition for 2 distros. I have suse installed and i want to make a partition and install ubuntu so do i have to create another swap partition for ubuntu or i can use the one for the suse?00:43
blue42comicinker: try setting that option as root?00:43
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, also there is a copy-to script for amarok00:43
soundraybaghead: read the topic00:43
ebirtaidwhy even bother with a topic ;p00:44
MasterNe0hi all. im having problems with my network manager. for some reason, it not showing Wired Connection when Im connected to any wired networks ports. Only shows wireless connections. any ideas how to fix it?00:44
bagheadsoundray: sorry - im using a different irc client that *didnt show the topic by default00:44
comicinkerPaddy_EIRE: yes, that's working. the copy-to and move-to script I'm using to organize my music collection on my PC. or are there others?00:44
ebirtaidthey would be better served by noticing people on join or something00:45
orbstrahey I get an error when I try to run mediatomb, It says libupnp cannot bind to socket and upnp register root device failed00:45
orbstraI beleive the socket error causes the second error00:45
comicinkerblue42? I shall launch amarok as root? are you sure?00:45
blue42comicinker: give it a shot00:45
Paddy_EIREcomicinker, no thats it.. can you not use that functionality to copy-to your sd-card00:45
minusDoes anyone know why I have to click the titlebar of a window to raise it? I want to be able to click anywhere in the windows to raise it.00:46
soundrayminus: metacity does this by default -- have you configured another window manager?00:47
ZakalethIS there an easy way to add a "always on top" button to my window's title bar in Gnome?00:47
minussoundray, yes.. Emerald00:47
chetnickhey guys any vpn client for ubuntu?00:47
orbstraanyone.. plz?00:47
Paddy_EIREZakaleth, explain what you mean00:47
soundrayminus: I'm sure the desired behaviour can be configured for that, but I don't know how00:48
eighty4orbstra, what's your question?00:48
psyferre_Zakaleth: beryl will add that00:48
mindmimehi00:48
mindmimewhats the command to bring up the nvidia graphics card settings in ubuntu ?00:48
orbstrahey I get an error when I try to run mediatomb, It says libupnp cannot bind to socket and upnp register root device failed00:48
awalton__tommas: I used the same swap partition across 3 installs, so it shouldn't be a problem00:48
soundrayZakaleth: it's already in the title bar's context menu00:48
psyferre_Zakaleth: i mean emerald00:48
orbstraI beleive the bind error causes the second error00:48
minussoundray, cant find any settings in emerald that does this00:48
nigelanyone here proficient in C?00:48
orbstraI can pastebin the error from the log if you would like00:48
Zakalethsoundray,  I want a button rater than a menu option. I use it a lot00:48
Samoyedhello all someone can tell me how can i share internet to 3 network cards00:48
awalton__tommas: just don't run the two OSes concurrently, and don't try to unsuspend from one OS into another, things like that.00:48
blue42orbstra:  did you type in " route add -net 239.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 int_if"00:49
kevinOis there a command that will scan the serial ports for devices?00:49
orbstrawhat would that do blue4200:49
awalton__nigel: ask the question.00:49
w00tzilla!easyubuntu00:49
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hammer123hi, what program should i install for dc++ to use in ubuntu00:49
blue42orbstra: I got it from this page:http://linux-igd.sourceforge.net/documentation.php00:49
tommasawalton__ how to choose the swap partition during the install of ubuntu. is there an option00:49
blue42orbstra: the basic idea is to allow upnp to start broadcasting00:49
mindmimeanyone know?00:49
comicinke1Paddy_EIRE: before I do that I will use nautilus. and I want to use the media-player-feature of amarok... sorry00:49
hhp2kHey everyone, is there any way to get 1280x1024 on a 15" LCD monitor?00:49
KeithWeissharare there any dell ubuntu iso images available00:50
up365mindframe, nvidia-settings00:50
joshritgerhas anyone used virtual box to install windows xp?00:50
MasterNe0anyone can help me with this network manager problem00:50
minusKeithWeisshar, Why dell images?00:50
Paddy_EIREcomicinke1, I totally agree00:50
kevinOis there a command like lspci for the serial ports?00:50
Paddy_EIREcomicinke1, I love amarok00:50
awalton__tommas: during the install it should ask you if you'd like to repartition, you'll have to select manual partitioning at tat point00:50
BarryDegelingello all00:50
eighty4KeithWeisshar, not yet (see /topic)00:50
nigelhow does the compiler know when a float value ends? is there a delimiter?00:50
mindmimethanks up365 :)00:50
euricoUbuntu doesn't detect CDROM device. How can I make it do so?00:50
orbstraoooooh blue42 ... whut should I put for the first IP? the server's ip is 192.168.1.204 and the netmask is 255.255.255.0 usually for my network00:50
BarryDegelingwhen banned from ubuntu-release-party, when will I be unbanned?00:50
up365np mindmime00:50
hammer123what is the program equivalent to dc++ for ubuntu?00:50
comicinke1blue42: so, I have to do the amarok settings again when I start amarok as root. no way...00:50
Blindraveneurico, yes it does :)00:51
awalton__tommas: just select the partition, and tell it to mount it as swap, it's very intuitive.00:51
LjLBarryDegeling: wrong channel to ask. try #ubuntu-ops00:51
Blindraveneurico, in any case, mount00:51
joepieurico, ubuntu should indeed regocnize them (even most old versions)... are you absolutely sure it's correctly attached and that's its powered?00:51
BarryDegelingok thank you :)00:51
eighty4hammer, try searching http://packages.ubuntu.com00:51
tommasok awalton__  thanks00:51
drakyany idea why it only seems to boot into safe graphics mode?00:51
awalton__tommas: glad to help00:51
unagianyone else here find it annoying that gm endorsed alot in the movie transformers therefore 95% of the vehicles in the movie including extras were gm cars........or is it just me00:51
alexisurangaalguien que me ayude en ganbas00:51
unagi!offtopic00:51
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!00:51
hammer123thanks00:51
alexisurangagambas00:51
Astrozombie138can anyone help me with this Sound Card bologna... I can't change the default device.00:51
blue42comicinke1: yeah? I don't know why the option isn't sticking00:51
orbstrablue42: i REALLY appreciate the help too, everywhere else has been useless00:52
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Paddy_EIREcomicinke1, is copy-to working?00:52
ebirtaidhammer123: there is a dc++ for linux00:52
kevinOdraky do you have the proper driver for your video card loding?00:52
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drakyyes00:52
unique311where is the ubuntu gutsy release party being held? ;)00:52
drakyI can get the video driver to work fine until I reboot00:52
comicinke1Paddy_EIRE: yes00:52
up365mindmime, if you DL Sysinfo using add/remove you'll get nvidia and more ;)00:52
soundrayunique311: read the topic00:52
drakythen it disappears as if it was never there00:52
kevinOhmm00:52
mEck0is there a nice audio editor for gnome? something like audacity00:52
kevinOwhat video driver are you using?00:52
Paddy_EIREcomicinke1, hmm.. I dont have an sd-card at the mo to test00:52
unique311lol00:53
orbstraanyone?00:53
Paddy_EIREcomicinke1, actually I do but my built-in reader is ENE so :(00:53
orbstrahow do I ues the route add command...00:53
drakynv and the nvidia proprietary both do it00:53
minussoundray, I just had to go into the controlpanel and apply "Click tp Focus" setting...00:53
hammer123ebirtaid: how, where to get dc++ for linux?00:53
ebirtaidI think it is in the repos00:53
blue42orbstra: replace int_if with the name of your internal interface00:53
smy1220<mEck0> how about audacity for ubuntu linux on the website00:53
drakyit just boots to the failsafe no matter what the setting was before reboot00:53
blue42(i.e., route add -net 239.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 eth1)00:53
ebirtaidopen synaptic and search for dc++00:54
Astrozombie138I keep changing the devices in sound thingy, and it keeps using my other sound card.00:54
awalton__nigel: compilers know the size of floats because it's hard coded per architecture00:54
kevinOdraky thats odd, you should try asking again, maybe someone with more expierence can help you00:54
blue42orbstra: route add -net 239.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 eth0  should work00:54
nareshovhammer123, aptitude install linuxdcpp00:54
mEck0smy1220, I have used audacity, its good for what I need it for, but I don't think it's interface is so fine...00:54
comicinke1Paddy_EIRE: I thing its not a SD-Card problem00:54
comicinke1blue42: I try to edit that file mentioned above00:54
nigelawalton, i am trying to error proof a float value, how do i go about it?00:55
Paddy_EIREcomicinke1, nor do I00:55
orbstrasame error00:55
Astrozombie138:(00:55
orbstra!pastebin00:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)00:55
awalton__nigel: error proof in what way?00:55
orbstrahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41005/00:55
orbstrathat is the error blue42  and anyone else that can help00:55
smy1220<mEck0> ahhh didnt realize you had used it for linux already00:56
nigelawalton:  lets say a user enters 24.. instead of 24.00  .... how can i know how to catch that error?00:56
hammer123nareshow : couldn't find any package....00:56
minusis there any way to remove the things that pop up when you hover above e.g. the start menu?00:56
HipotermiAwhat time in free gusty gibson?00:56
blue42orbstra: ah... there's something else already running00:56
RichWHow many Gb is the archive.ubuntu.com repository?00:56
orbstraI have tried multiple ports00:56
hammer123what is aptitude for? i thought only apt-get to install programs00:56
orbstrablue4200:56
eighty4HipotermiA, it's not out yet (see /topic)00:56
ebirtaidaptitude is like apt-get00:57
ebirtaidjust different interface00:57
Dr_LinkIf you don't want xubuntu...00:57
hammer123ooo00:57
Dr_Linkcan you install Xfce on regular Ubuntu?00:57
mEck0smy1220, ahh, found Marlin,http://marlin.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html , I will give it a chance :)00:57
Dr_LinkUninstall GNOME?00:57
ebirtaiddr_link:  yes00:57
ebirtaidyou dont have to uninstall gnome00:57
Dr_LinkAnd then use Xfce as the default?00:57
blue42orbstra: yeah, can you pastebin output of netstat?00:57
compreak219will gutsy be released at midnight on like EST  or what00:57
ebirtaidyou can use it as default without uninstalling gnome00:57
orbstrablue42:  yessir!00:57
eighty4compreak219, it's not out yet (see /topic)00:57
ebirtaidselect it form sessions then choose use as default00:57
awalton__nigel: you can use something like scanf to insure values are input type-correctly.00:58
orbstrahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41006/00:58
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ebirtaidamaranth I want ops :(00:58
chimaerai'm using katapult with gnome, unfortunately, some apps like firefox cannot be called. any ideas what might cause this?00:58
joel_can anyone recommend a really good prog for ubuntu equivalent to alcohol 120% please?00:58
Amaranthebirtaid: Not something easily earned00:58
awalton__nigel: scanf("%f", &some_floating_field); should do what you want, for example00:58
AmaranthThis is a _large_ channel :)00:59
picard_pwns_kirkjoel_: K3B00:59
ebirtaidI can give hawt cyber though :D00:59
therionhi00:59
joel_it will let me mount and run iso files, yes?00:59
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therionsomeone have experience with pcsx2?01:00
sainzeoi have a nvidia graphics card, and upon installing ubuntu, i enabled the restricted driver for it, but upon restart, it said that my x server wasn't properly configured, any help?01:00
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nigelAwalton, i have done that but if the user enters a wrong value like 24.08.65 the input is stored as 24.0801:00
gogetatherion i do a bit yes its slow01:00
LjL!away > neopsyche-away    (neopsyche-away, see the private message from Ubotu)01:00
Astrozombie138are you guys busy?01:00
joel_therion: some, its slow and havent ran under linux01:00
avarner_official gutsy released today right??01:01
avarner_or did i make that up?01:01
blue42orbstra: can you by chance run a controlpoint on your machine?01:01
orbstrablue42: did you get the link? ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41006/ .. take your time i apreciate the help01:01
sainzeoi have a nvidia graphics card, and upon installing ubuntu, i enabled the restricted driver for it, but upon restart, it said that my x server wasn't properly configured, any help?01:01
orbstracontrolpoint?01:01
blue42orbstra: yeah... something like the cyberlink java sample-controlpoint...01:01
therionit's slowing but someone know where i can download gsdx plugin unix version?01:02
blue42orbstra: lemme hit you with a link01:02
orbstrablue42: yessir01:02
nigelAwalton: also trailing ".."  messes up the input as well01:02
avarner_sainzeo: i've had that same problem and i don't know how to fix it exactly, but did you also install other updates at the same time?01:02
blue42orbstra: hopefully you've got java setup correctly?01:02
sainzeoavarner_, no i did not01:02
awalton__nigel: well your only option in this case is to actually parse the input string character for character01:02
orbstrablue42: it has no GUI.. its ubuntu server01:03
mEck0I want to try a HTPC (aka mediacenter) application for linux, running, which one do you think is the "best"?01:03
orbstraand how is this relevent?01:03
avarner_sainzeo: huh... that's weird, that was what was making my problem i've determined, the other updates. i'm sorry but i don't know how to help at this point. :(01:03
joel_therion: sorry i dont :/01:03
nigelAwalton: yes i kinda figured that but in my loop, i'm not sure where to stop looking?? is there a "EOF" string to look for??01:03
nigel a null character ?01:04
awalton__nigel: normall in C, you'll want to do fixed sized reads, the NULL character is the end of a C string though01:04
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awalton__nigel: things like that can get you into coding nightmares with buffer overruns/underruns01:04
blue42orbstra: can you post output of 'ps -e'01:04
meeperhow do I make ubuntu see all 4gb of ram?01:05
orbstrahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41007/01:05
nigelAwalton: what signals an end of float ?01:05
sainzeoi have a nvidia graphics card, and upon installing ubuntu, i enabled the restricted driver for it, but upon restart, it said that my x server wasn't properly configured, any help?01:05
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rouben!sudo01:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:05
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awalton__nigel: you're trying to convert a C string into a float, that's what you need to understand, C strings are terminated by a null character normally, floats are a fixed size (4 bytes on Intel, for example)01:06
meepersainzeo: go and download http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.19.html01:06
rohanhi .. shoudln't gutsy have released by now ?01:06
ebirtaidits not the 18th everywhere01:06
Seeker`rohan: no01:06
meepersainzeo: I just saved you a good 2 hours of your life :)01:06
eighty4rohan, see the topic01:06
MisterslurpeeHello.01:06
avarner_rohan: i was thinking the same thing :)01:06
sainzeomeeper, haha, how so?01:06
rohaneighty4: haha, spoke too soon !01:06
rohaneighty4: sorry01:06
eighty4np01:07
MisterslurpeeAnyone not busy?01:07
sainzeomeeper, are you saying i should install the driver straight from that instead of from the restricted drivers?01:07
awalton__nigel: you can use atof() to convert a string into a float after you've sanitized it (I wouldn't try it directly, personally)01:07
meepersainzeo: it took me ~2hrs to figure out that's the correct driver to use. forget everything the ubuntu forums say and envy and all that. just use that driver01:07
ZaerathHey guys I need some help.01:07
sainzeomeeper, so you ran into the same problem i assume?01:07
meepersainzeo: yes. assuming you have 8xxx graphics card of course01:07
sainzeomeeper, i have 660001:08
ZaerathI installed the latest nVidia drivers, and for some reason, I cannot get my resolution to go to 1280 x 1024. It's available in my xorg.conf, and I have the very latest drivers. Any suggestions?01:08
awalton__nigel: calling atof() directly is pretty much what scanf will do anyways, so it's not going to help you if your input data is broken.01:08
sainzeomeeper, does that mean it's not going to work?01:08
blue42orbstra:  try running mediatomb with sudo01:08
nigelAwalton: how else would you go about it....   btw, thanx for helping, i really need anything i can get01:08
orbstrablue42: I have, and I have tried it without.. no diference01:08
blue42orbstra: appears like you need root permissions to bind01:08
eegoreis compiz going to need extra memory for laptops?01:08
Plouj-hi01:08
MisterslurpeeCan Anyone Help my with my soundcard?01:08
marvinthepahello, i have a problem upgrading to gutsy, update manager wants to download an insane 3GB of data01:08
kst-gn.01:08
Plouj-does ubuntu automatically clear /tmp before/after reboot?01:08
blue42orbstra: ok... hmm, getting stuck here.. I don't see any other upnp services on the ps-e list01:08
awalton__nigel: I would just reject the broken string.. but I'm not sure if that's the correct behavior for your app or not.01:08
eighty4marvinthepa, upgrade from what?01:08
meepersainzeo: ....I dunno. I have a 8600gt and that driver works great for me. the other drivers don't even compile.01:09
sainzeomeeper, okay, well i suppose i could give it a try01:09
marvinthepaeighty4: upgrade to gutsy is only possible from feisty01:09
nigelawalton: how would you reject the broken string?01:09
marvinthepaeighty4: so thats what I am trying01:09
orbstrablue42: can I just enter root admin mode somehow just to troubleshoot that permissions is the problem01:09
mneptokGutsy question in #ubuntu+1 please01:09
mneptokorbstra: sudo su01:09
ZaerathI installed the latest nVidia drivers, and for some reason, I cannot get my resolution to go to 1280 x 1024. It's available in my xorg.conf, and I have the very latest drivers. Any suggestions?01:10
marvinthepamneptok: sorry, I'll go there01:10
comicinke1Paddy_EIRE, blue42: it seems amarok corrupts its settings file, because it added "&" in front of every supported value. that was the error01:10
awalton__nigel: just go over the string with a loop and check that all of the characters are numbers or a "." character, if you find two "."s, exit the loop and report an error01:10
blue42orbstra: yeah... 'sudo bash'01:10
awalton__nigel: a lot of how you'd want to do that is application specific, as there are a half dozen correct ways to implement that behavior.01:10
mneptokblue42: "sudo su" is preferable01:10
Paddy_EIREcomicinke1, hmm.. thats got to be a bug01:10
blue42comicinke1: cool, does it work now?01:10
blue42mneptok: ah, thanks01:11
orbstrablue42: still no luck, I think mabye my routing tables are messed up, how can I send a copy to you to check em out?01:11
nigelawalton: Thank you so much, i will try that now01:11
Paddy_EIRE!paste | orbstra01:11
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comicinke1yes, thanks for the link. and: I didn't know amarok can handle avi?01:11
orbstrawhere is the routing tables director in ubuntu01:11
comicinke1how can I teach him?01:11
ZaerathIs there any way to edit the 3D effects available once you enable it in Ubuntu 7.10?01:12
orbstrarouting tables file**01:12
awalton__nigel: /msg me if you need more help, it's a bit crazy in here.01:12
kitcheZaerath: yes but that's more for #ubuntu+1 unless of course they released the isos01:12
thedonvaughnorbstra: routing tables file?  you can configure your routing table with route(1) .  ubuntu has default gw and stuff set in /etc/network/interfaces01:12
Zaerathkitche: They did release the isos, although it's still in beta.01:13
ZaerathI do have another problem, though, if anyone can help.01:13
ZaerathI installed the latest nVidia drivers, and for some reason, I cannot get my resolution to go to 1280 x 1024. It's available in my xorg.conf, and I have the very latest drivers. Any suggestions?01:13
_JZ020456list01:13
nigelAwalton: lol, i'm such a newb... i tried msg you and failed01:13
awalton__Zaerath: does your monitor support that resolution?01:13
orbstrablue42: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41008/01:13
Misterslurpeei keep trying to change the sound device, but it stays to the same.01:13
awalton__nigel: gotta remember the undescores01:13
ZaerathYeah, I used to use it in Ubuntu 7.04 all the time; but I haven't been able to get it back since I reinstalled 7.0401:14
nigelactually the server said i am an unregistered user01:14
tovellakitche: c'mon it's scheduled to be released tomorrow.  if there's a way (and you know how) why not just deliver the goods?01:14
ZaerathI also use it on my dual-booted M$ XP.01:14
Misterslurpeei have 2 sound cards01:14
blue42orbstra: is there a firewall on your machine? I forgot to check.. like firestarter?01:14
SkyblastAnyone know how to let moblock allow certain things through, or at let everything through on port 80? The default list is way too strict to filter web content01:14
orbstranegatory blue4201:14
joshwaI have a question: is there any way to tell Linux where to place the icon on your desktop when you mount something?01:15
orbstrablue42: how can i check to see if libupnp is installed01:15
MisterslurpeeDoes Reboot Help?01:15
ZaerathAnyone have any solutions? :/01:15
flyingfreeokay so if my printer is listed in the unbuntu driver database it is supported by ubuntu?01:16
kitcheZaerath: fyi you need ccsm installed to do what you want with compiz01:16
mneptokZaerath: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:16
flyingfreewondering if fiesty supports the canon i86001:16
Zaerathmneptok: I considered that, lemmie try that and get back to you. :)01:16
flyingfreethey list it as a paperwieght but do they support it?01:16
MisterslurpeeHow to fix my sounds problem01:16
blue42orbstra: heh:) I don't know... 'sudo apt-get install libupnp0' to check if it's there01:17
tovellakitche: ccsm?01:17
mneptokflyingfree: Canon inkjets are paperweights01:17
flyingfreewell thanks but I can't convince my wife to go and buy another right now so does fiesty support it without having to instlal other packages or not?01:17
mneptokorbstra: sudo updatedb && locate libupnp01:17
mneptokflyingfree: Canon inkjets are paperweights01:17
joshwaI have a question: is there any way to tell Linux where to place the icon on your desktop when you mount something?01:17
mneptokflyingfree: what is not clear about that?01:18
Misterslurpeethanks for help.01:18
mneptokflyingfree: paperweight. will not work. no drivers. period. game over. thanks, Canon.01:18
zemonstashey y'all... it's the 18th today, in Australia but i'm guessing gutsy gibbon gets released tomorrow, American 18th?01:18
flyingfreemneptok funny but it doesn't answer the question, even paperwieghts serve purpose01:18
meepersainzeo: did it work?01:18
kitchetovella: it's sorta like beryl-manager but for compiz01:18
SteamMachineHi again01:19
Zaerathmneptok: Fixed it! Thanks!01:19
mneptokflyingfree: and your Canon printer will hold down papers very well. so why are you asking about its printing functions?01:19
flyingfreeokay thankyou for your glib if not informational comment01:19
MisterslurpeeDo u have to be voiced to ask questions?01:19
tovellakitche: oh, you mean compizconfig-settings-manager.01:19
eighty4zemonstas, it'll be out when it's out (see /topic)01:19
SteamMachineI found a way (using digikam) to retrieve my photos.01:19
jacob_anybody knows if microsoft office works with wine?01:19
kitchetovella: yes the binary is ccsm though :)01:19
Misterslurpee!voiceme01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voiceme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:19
Misterslurpee!voice01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:19
mneptokjacob_: i know OpenOffice works on Windows ...01:19
zemonstaseighty4 - ok ok, just wanted to know if i got screwed by living in an earlier timezone ;)    normally it's fun to say that you guys are all so yesterday :-s01:20
cafuegojacob_: Up until office 2003 I believe it does.01:20
cafuegojacob_: There's Crossover Office, which is a hacked up wine specifically for office/adobe...01:20
SteamMachineUnfortunately, as a side effect - whenever I open my home directory (with konq) digikam starts loading, then the loading icon in the bar disappears, and konq does not open the whichever folder was clicked.01:20
eighty4jacob_, http://appdb.winehq.org/01:20
MisterslurpeeI guess I am not voiced :(01:20
tovellakitche: Zaerath probably wouldn't know that - what ever happened to user-friendly community support?01:20
sainzeomeeper, that didn't seem to work :(01:21
eighty4Misterslurpee, you don't need to be voiced to ask questions01:21
cafuegoIs there any reason you need to be voiced?01:21
blue42orbstra:  can you try running mediatomb with these options "mediatomb --port 49152"01:21
Misterslurpeecuz i though you couldnt se my question01:21
blue42orbstra: if that doesn't work, raise the port number01:21
kitchetovella: he wanted to know how to edit plugins for compiz and I told him the program that he needed to do which should be installed by default on 7.1001:21
cafuegoWe couldn't, you weren't voiced.01:22
eighty4Misterslurpee, people in here are volunteers and there's no guarantee there'll be someone here who knows the answer. Try asking another time, or on ubuntuforums.org01:22
SteamMachineIf anyone has any ideas as to why, and how to fix it, I'd be really grateful.01:22
joepiDoes anybody know how to limit the 'network manager' tool from accessing revolf.conf? In combination with other software (softmodems/satelite connections) it's giving some troubles.01:22
Misterslurpeeoh...01:22
thedonvaughnMisterslurpee: no you do not need to be voiced :)01:22
MisterslurpeeI was trying to get sounds to worked01:22
thedonvaughn!ask | Misterslurpee01:22
ubotuMisterslurpee: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:22
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MisterslurpeeIt says my cards alsas and i put alsas no sound goes.01:23
flyingfreeokay database entry says " This printer entry is not yet included in the Foomatic packages and the data on this page is not verified or proofread.  This entry can be edited by everyone. " does that mean no driver built in for the canon i860?  Is there any alternate driver that might work?01:23
com4I just did a dist-upgrade to gutsy and my gnome thinks it's xinerama for some reason. Is there a way I can tell gnome that I have two seperate monitors so ti doesn't start apps in the middle and so my gnome panels don't stretch across both monitors?01:23
tovellakitche: let me see if i can install a package called ccsm... oh, yeah, that's the command, not the package name.  you see my point, right...  the only reason I brought it up is that I started with an alpha (then grabbed the updates) which did not include compizconfig-settings-manager, by default.01:24
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kitchetovella: well compiz-fusion sorta needs it to even be able to run01:25
jacob_cafuego do you know the latest version of crossover linux01:25
dgais it worth the jump to 64-bit linux yet?01:25
jacob_anybody knows the latest version of crossover linux01:25
cafuegojacob_: Nope01:26
trainI read somethign that awn is now stable01:26
kitchetovella: and by the way the package should be called ccsm also but ubuntu doesn't name it that01:26
trainwhy isn't it in the respository?01:26
Frogzoo!gutsy01:26
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information01:26
eighty4jacob_, http://www.codeweavers.com/products/01:26
joelitoanyone can't wait for gutsy tomorrow?01:26
FrogzooI make it october the 18th - does Gutsy release today?01:26
SteamMachineI thought it was today01:26
thedonvaughntrain: didn't make it before the freeze01:26
eighty4at some point today, yes01:27
trainisn't the candidate the same thing as the release?01:27
joelitoSteam, Depends on the timezone I guess01:27
mc44Frogzoo: yes, please read the topic01:27
trainwhats the difference between beta, and the candidate01:27
mc44train: the CDs are different01:27
train?01:27
nigelhelp01:28
dgaare there any advantages at this moment to running the 64-bit ubuntu?01:28
mc44train: the beta is not the same as the candidate01:28
nigelman01:28
eighty4train, the alpha is "kinda there", the beta is "nearly there" and the rc is "really really really nearly there". ;-)01:28
trainokay, well whast the diff between the candidate and the release tomorrow01:28
mc44train: some packages01:28
eighty4train, last minute bug fixes made after the release of the RC.01:28
trainokay cool01:29
crimsuntrain: a dozen or so updated packages.01:29
trainyeah I ran the alpha is wasn't even close to there01:29
trainwant to know what really annoys me01:29
trainI want packages like AWN01:29
mc44no01:29
IntelligitimateI am having some minor problems. Little irritating ones that are about to drive me insane. Can anyone help me?01:29
DrXanyone have any ideas on why none of my systems can see (ping, http, etc) each other even tho they're all on the same subnet & snm & tried two different working switches (everything can see one managed switch/router)?01:29
trainbut I feel like add repositories muddies the water01:29
zetheroowhat does it mean when they tell you there are security updates for Ubuntu Linux?..... I thought Linux was secure?!?01:29
trainand I get package conflicts later on01:29
navetswhens ubuntu come out01:29
eighty4train, AWN?01:29
navetsgutsy that is01:29
joelitoanybody knows how to disable sudo on ssh?01:30
XiXaQDebian vs Ubuntu is like GNU vs Linux.. Don't compete. Contribute!01:30
eighty4navets, see the topic01:30
John117Hey guys.   Question of the day.   Is Gutsy going to be on the servers at like midnight tonight?   I'm really eager to get it up and running.  I'm new and I've had trouble with 7.0401:30
gryfelzetheroo: Secure compared to what?01:30
AudriilGnome-terminal is broken.  Can someone help?01:30
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Paddy_EIREzetheroo, it is.. they are updates.. its hardly future proof01:30
eighty4John117, see the topic01:30
awalton__Audriil, broken how.01:30
mneptokJohn117: there is no exact time01:30
RetardedpopeAn application is preventing the volume from being unmounted.01:30
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, think realistically01:30
John117gotcha sorry.01:30
RetardedpopeHow do I fix that?01:30
tovellaeighty4: really really really nearly... that's perfect.  now i have a better way to explain these concepts to my friends and family who don't speak "geek".  They all think of me as their personal computer support department.01:30
Audriil<awalton__> Broken in that it doesn't start.  Not broken in that nothing works.01:31
zetherooPaddy_EIRE : well it makes it sound like Linux has security issues like Windows does01:31
mneptoktovella: tell them to buy a support contract for Ubuntup01:31
mneptok-p01:31
Audriil<awalton__> I tried running it from alt+f2, as well.  It simply doesn't start,01:31
SteamMachineArgh. I needa go shave. This is ridiculous. It's like it's growing back faster and faster (but still won't grow into anything substantial)01:31
tovellamneptok: wish they could afford one.01:31
eighty4tovella, remember it's a Release Candidate. all release-critical bugs should have been fixed, so just testing it and ironing out the creases before the actual release01:31
RetardedpopeIs there a command to find out what process is preventing me from unmounting?01:32
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, hardly01:32
IntelligitimateProblem 1: When I am surfing the net with Firefox, very often it does this drag thing I absolutely do not want it to do. How do I turn it off or stop it from happening? Problem 2: Evolution is now, for some unexplainable reason, popping up all new emails I click on. Problem 3: I have to click multiple times to either get the Toolbar-things to stay on or go off.01:32
IntelligitimateI am about to kill myself.01:32
IntelligitimateIt is that annoying01:32
traineighty4:  'tjlg6ysxl'01:32
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, you here trolling01:32
trainoops01:32
awalton__Audriil: strange bug, have you tried removing it and reinstalling it?01:32
tovellaeighty4: thanks.01:32
traineighty4: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5963113639256134658&q=awn&total=270&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=401:32
Audriil<awalton__>  How would I do that without access to the terminal?01:32
oritemisbody, i am trying to install gnome ppp into a box unpluged (at least for while) from internet. where can I download the correct package?01:32
traineighty4: thats a link to a video with AWN01:33
SkyblastAll software has holes and exploits... the difference between Linux is a lot of people are finding bugs to patch them, as apposed to a lot of Windows haxx0rz who are finding them to exploit them01:33
Audriil<awalton__> I'm just used to using terminal01:33
Audriil<awalton__> Synaptic?01:33
awalton__Audriil: you could remove it from synaptic, or you could do it from alt+f2 (it's a terminal too)01:33
ebirtaidpaddy_eire I wouldnt call him trolling01:33
zetherooPaddy_EIRE: I read this whole article where some guy is mocking Linux for having "Security Updates" just like windows..... and I was nerved by it..... so I thought I would find out what thats all about...01:33
SteamMachineSo, whichever folder I select, digikam starts to open - though it never quite makes it.01:33
Audriil<awalton__> Yeah, knew that.  Just being stupid.  Thanks.01:33
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, its a good thing, worry when there are no updates01:33
awalton__audrill: if that doesn't work, you've got some bigger issues somewhere.. it's extremely weird it doesn't start.01:34
zetherooPaddy_EIRE: does it mean though that Linux is vulnerable to outside attack .... or that viruses are being made for Linux?01:34
Audriilhmm01:34
oritemisguys, how I download a package to install manually into the machine?01:34
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, things can always be better nothing is infallible01:34
Audriil<awalton__> It does nothing.01:35
smmagicAnyone know when Gutsy comes out?01:35
awalton__Audriil: does nothing as in, doesn't start either?01:35
Audriil<awalton__> Alt+f2 with apt-get remove gnome-terminal does nothing, even with 'run in terminal' enabled.01:35
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, as far as security goes linux is the best01:35
Audriil<awalton__> Yes, doesn't start01:35
Odd-rationaleI'm trying to install some Experimental plugins for compiz-fusion - namely, 3d. I'm following the instructions on the compiz-fusion website: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Install/PluginsFromGit01:35
Odd-rationaleHowever when I try to do "make" I get this output from the terminal:01:35
Odd-rationaleconvert   : 3d.xml.in -> build/3d.xml01:35
Odd-rationalebcop'ing  : build/3d.xml -> build/3d_options.h01:35
Odd-rationalebcop'ing  : build/3d.xml -> build/3d_options.c01:35
Odd-rationaleschema    : build/3d.xml -> build/compiz-3d.schema01:35
zetherooPaddy_EIRE: I just wish they would name it something diferent so Windows users could not poke fun at Linux so easily01:35
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, what are you using it for01:35
eighty4train, considering that the last AWN release is 0.2, i'm guessing it's not really ready for general consumption just yet and that's probably why it's not in the repos.01:35
Odd-rationalemake: *** No rule to make target `build/3d.lo', needed by `c-build-objs'.  Stop.01:35
Odd-rationaleDoes anyone knows what I'm doing wrong?01:35
vulcaniussmmagic: less than two days01:35
Audriil<awalton__> Which is odd, because I can run apps from alt+f201:35
smmagicMore wait..-.-01:35
Odd-rationaleWhy didnt't pastebin work?01:35
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, hardly poking fun and those people are the trolls01:36
zetherooPaddy_EIRE: I use it on all my PC's01:36
awalton__Audriil: press ctrl+alt+f2 and try it there (and remember to use sudo)01:36
mdl-unitI have a question about vmplayer: I cannot figure out why it won't work with the network.  When booting up an image, I get the error message: "Could not open VMnet8: No such file or directory Virtual device Ethernet0 will start disconnected"01:36
Audriilk01:36
oritemisMay someone help me with package management?01:36
ebirtaidmdl-unit: when you configured vmware did you enable networking?01:36
awalton__!ask01:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:36
ebirtaidwhen you installed it initially01:37
Audriil<awalton__> That's... very odd.01:37
Jeriathanyoen knwo a way to give a non root user read/write permissions for NTFS filesystems01:37
mdl-unitI thought I did, perhaps I didn't.  How do I redo it?  I did reinstall in synaptic and it went and skipped all of the config stuff01:37
Jeriathim using teh NTFS configuration tool01:37
Audriil<awalton__> Oh, nevermind. Typed terminal, rather than gnome-terminal01:37
ebirtaidawalton_:  when using alt+f2 you should you gksudo not sudo, preferablly01:37
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, updates are a great thing... technology moves fast and linux keeps state-of-the-art as apposed to windows updates being the second tuesday of every month which they dont really fix anything01:38
Odd-rationaleOr is this the way I'm supposed to do it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41009/plain/ :)01:38
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, they add restrictions like wga and drm.. which hamper a user rather than benefit them01:38
SidWait a second!01:38
Audriil<awalton__> Just reinstalled, but it doesn't seem to be running.  Should I reboot and try again?01:38
SidISNT GuTSY OUT TOdAY?01:38
ebirtaidmdl-unit:  there is a command-line perl script for vmware-server, I forget the location01:38
ebirtaidyou can use that to reconfigure01:38
SidzOMG!01:38
ebirtaidheh01:38
SidGUTSYS OUT TODAY OMG OMG OMG01:39
mdl-unitebirtaid, I'll see what I can do.  Thanks.01:39
ebirtaidk01:39
Paddy_EIRESid, if I hear that one more time AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH01:39
SidWhy would someone use ubuntu instead of vista?01:39
SidSorry01:39
Sid:(01:39
ebirtaidvista sucks01:39
Paddy_EIRESid, die01:39
ebirtaidthats why01:39
AudriilVista blows.01:39
Paddy_EIRESid, why use vista01:39
SidNo it doesnt01:39
eighty4Sid, because vista is like £400. and it sucks.01:39
zetherooSid  : your kidding right?01:39
ebirtaidhes trolling01:39
SidSorry01:39
ebirtaidbecause he has nothing better to do01:40
SidI'll shut up now01:40
Paddy_EIRESid, stop trolling01:40
misnixis vista rpm based or debian based?01:40
zetherooSid  : Vista is a retarded OS01:40
Tarkushow do i tell what gtk version im using?01:40
SidSomeone told me vista was based on BSD and I lol'd01:40
AudriilSid: That'd be Mac Os01:40
John117Hey guys.. I've been reading.  I'm really intersted in the graphical interface aspect of ubuntu.   Should i go with Kubuntu instead?01:40
SidI know01:40
psyferre_anyone know why ndiswrapper -v would say "utils Error: no version specified!" ?01:40
AudriilSid: I also know01:40
zetheroois there a Vista IRC?01:40
SidJohn: I suggest the normal Gnome based ubuntu01:40
Paddy_EIREzetheroo, ##windows01:40
ralphowhat kernel does 7.10 have01:40
SidJohn: Kubuntu looks ugly01:40
psyferre_i've uninstalled and reinstalled most parts of ndiswrapper trying to fix the error, but no dice01:40
ebirtaidjohn117:  look at screenshots and decide, or install both and try them out01:40
AudriilSid: Not really01:40
ebirtaidits all preference01:41
YasumotoJohn117: the main difference is that Kubuntu uses KDE, and Ubuntu uses gnome. I prefer ubuntu01:41
SidAudrill: SuSE has a better KDE interface than Ubuntu01:41
AudriilSid: Although I've had massive stability issues with Kubuntu...01:41
SvenstaroNow I joined #ubuntu to run from vista talk and they also talk about it here.01:41
Paddy_EIREJohn117, use ubuntu (gnome)01:41
eighty4John117, depends which window manager you like best. try them both (and xubuntu too if you want) and see which you prefer.01:41
kevinOhow do i install the latest kernel headers?01:41
Odd-rationale!pastebin01:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:41
AudriilSid: I admit that Kubuntu config sucks01:41
crimsunkevinO: they're installed by default.01:41
Paddy_EIRESvenstaro, naa thats normal there are always silly people and trolls01:41
Audriil<awalton__> So...01:41
crimsunkevinO: (or try aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`)01:41
SidAudrill: Yeah, and theres a lot more support for ubuntu01:41
Svenstaro:(01:41
kevinOcrimsun, i am getting this error Error: kernel headers not found in '/usr/src/linux/'01:42
SvenstaroI wanna join the hype of the Gutsy release :D01:42
kevinOok01:42
ebirtaidmost of it will be the same config-wise01:42
blah569This probably isn't the best place to ask this, but I use to love to emulate Linux using Windows, fun to play arround with, but I lost everything on this computer and I forgot the name of it.  I think it contained the word "Box" in it.  Does anyone know the name.01:42
Paddy_EIRESvenstaro, they are quickly kicked if they stay on that topic though :D01:42
ebirtaidunless you are talking about gui support01:42
avarnerhey guys someone earlier pointed to a newish nvidia driver on thir site... the issue tho is how do i get out of the x server? control+alt+f1 is just going to a blank screen that blinks at me ... won't allow input and cntrl+alt+backspace just restarts x01:42
ebirtaidblah56: virtualbox01:42
John117I'll try them all then. LOL I just didn't know if either of them had more striking differences.   Maybe one is more advanced? or easier to configure for someone switching from Windows?01:42
blah569thanks!01:42
Sidlol01:42
SvenstarokevinO are you trying to install vmware?01:42
drumlineanyone know anything about recovering a raid that was deleted on a highpoint rocket raid card?   Nothing has been written to the drives since the damned utility deleted the array...01:42
drrbrtnikomg omg omg01:42
AudriilSo can anyone here tell me how to fix Gnome-terminal?01:42
chetnickany vpn client fro ubuntu?01:43
ZaerathAudriil: What's the problem with it?01:43
SidI think that if you have a super good computer, vista looks amazing on it with aero and all that stuff01:43
SidDoes compiz compare to aero?01:43
SvenstaroAlso, does automatix still suck and nobody suggest the use of it?01:43
Paddy_EIREavarner, you can login in any of the ctrl+alt+f1-6 or ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to your graphical desktop01:43
awalton__compiz > aero.01:43
AudriilZaerath: It doesn't start... at all.01:43
ebirtaidaero is really not that impressive01:43
Odd-rationaleSid: yes01:43
SidI'ma check out pictures01:43
ralphocompiz lion aero house cat01:43
ebirtaidand takes most of its nice features from other OS'es01:43
ZaerathAudriil: Have you tried reinstalling it?01:43
drrbrtnikwindows + aero == polished turd01:43
Sidbecause that cube thing that ubuntu has doesn't appeal to me01:43
kevinOSvenstaro: no im trying to get my wacom serial tablet to work and ive downloaded wacom-kernel-source01:43
AudriilZaerath: When I try to run it, it says 'loading terminal'... then it doesn't load it.01:43
AudriilZaerath: I just reinstalled.01:43
John117It looks like the tossup is between Kubuntu and Ubuntu.   Eubuntu and Xubuntu seem lighter than what i want.01:43
AudriilZaerath: Fixed nothing.01:43
Paddy_EIREavarner, ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X your graphical interface01:44
SvenstarokevinO hang on a sec01:44
avarnerPaddy_EIRE: getting back in isn't the issue, getting out is. the screen that cntrl+alt+f1/2 doesn't let me out01:44
SvenstaroI dont think you need to do the wacom thingy manually01:44
Svenstarothere are manuals for that availible on the forums01:44
ZaerathAudriil: Check out your file permissions, and make sure your partitions are properly mounted.01:44
avarnerPaddy_EIRE: or doesn't do anything but blink at me01:44
Paddy_EIREavarner, I told you already.. ctrl+alt+f7 takes you back to your gui01:44
avarnerPaddy_EIRE: and i told you already control+alt+f7 isn't what i want01:44
Paddy_EIREavarner, what are you trying to do there01:44
drrbrtnikone of the great things about compiz is it flies on old, daggy hardware01:44
kevinOyeah im following one right now but i cant get it to work01:44
riotkittiei think the issue is that his[?] TTYs arent loading01:45
psyferre_anyone know of an irc channel more directly addressing ndiswrapper problems? I want to make sure i'm in the right place :)01:45
Ubuntu-roxHey guys!01:45
AudriilZaerath: It worked yesterday, and I have changed nothing (except trying to hibernate, which failed... miserably), so I don't see why it stopped working01:45
SidThe one thing I'm going to stick to windows for is uTOrrent01:45
avarnerPaddy_EIRE: i'm trying to install a new driver and it won't let me if i'm logged into x01:45
joel_ mount -t iso9660 UT2004ECE.iso /mountpoint -o loop01:45
joel_   what should be the mount point ?01:45
joshwaWhen I go to /dev I see hdb hdb1 hdb2 hdb3. But only one slave drive. are those all different partitions?01:45
tovellaJohn117: I think Edubuntu is actually "heavier" - Ubuntu plus educational stuff.01:45
John117I gotcha.01:45
John117So Kubuntu and Ubuntu 7.10 are both set for release tomorrow?01:45
ZaerathAudrill: I wouldn't see why it would; that is strange. Have you tried updating your system?01:45
SidMy cheap school wanted me to install ubuntu instead of windows tablet pc edition so they could save costs lololol01:45
riotkittiejoshwa: yes.  hd[x] is a drive hd[x#] is a partition01:45
AudriilZaerath: Do you think a different terminal might fix it?01:45
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Paddy_EIREavarner, then end your x session01:45
SidSo I didn't bother01:45
tovellaJohn117: yup - can't wait.01:46
AudriilZaerath: I'm running gnome-terminal right now.01:46
ZaerathAudrill: I would try it. Try Konsole.01:46
awalton__riotkittie: shouldn't that be sd[x] and sd[x#] ?01:46
AudriilZaerath: K, thanks.01:46
avarnerPaddy_EIRE: well yeah, how do i do that besides cntrl+alt+f1?01:46
awalton__huzzah kernel changes.01:46
joshwariotkittie, I would like to format the drive and thus, make all of those partitions one (just hdb) what should I do?01:46
AggortI have a weird issue with update manager. I regularly update... once a week maybe more, and today I went to get ready for Gutsy Gibbon. When I went to update it it failed finding the repository on the update install and closed. When i then ran the update manger by it's self it said I had 904 updates!01:46
ebirtaidsid: passive-aggressive much?01:46
John117Awesome..  As always, thank you guys for the support community.  You all rock.01:46
AggortAny ideas why?01:46
riotkittieawalton__: as joshwa mentioned seeing  hd_'s ... no :P01:46
ZaerathAudrill: No problem.01:47
AudriilZaerath: I don't have the repos for it right now.  Where can I find the Kubuntu repos that have konsole?01:47
riotkittiejoshwa: if you're a fan of GUIs, you can go the gparted route. otherwise, there's fdisk and cfdisk.01:47
Paddy_EIREavarner, ctrl+alt+f1 then login and install driver then switch back to x session using ctrl+alt+f7 then restart x using ctrl+alt+backspace01:47
ebirtaidaudriil: the ubuntu repos have konsole01:47
ZaerathAudrill: I'll look into it for you, one second.01:47
ZaerathThere you go.01:47
joshwariotkittie, what do you prefer? :)01:47
AudriilZaerath: Thanks01:47
ZaerathAudrill: Try installing kubuntu-desktop.01:47
tovellaAggort: perhaps some repositories hadn't finish "synchronizing" all the newer stuff yet.  try again tomorrow, and it will likely be fixed.01:47
ebirtaidthere is no difference in repos between k/x/ubuntu01:48
avarnerPaddy_EIRE: well that's what i've been saying all of this time. i cntrl+alt+f1 does NOT let me do anything, it just blinks. no input at all.01:48
Paddy_EIREno01:48
ZaerathI know, but Konsole may come with kubuntu-desktop.01:48
Aggorttovella: The update to Gusty isn't what I am worried about, it's why in the world I have 905 updates!01:48
ebirtaidit shouldn't have it as a dependency01:48
xIkeanyone know how to add authentication to an ldap server?01:48
ebirtaidit may uninstall ubuntu-desktop though01:48
AudriilMy terminal outsput says it needs several deb repos01:48
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ZaerathThen why would it show him not having Konsole?01:48
AudriilSo yeah, I think so.01:48
tovellaAggort: i'm speaking in reference to Feisty.01:48
riotkittiejoshwa: depends on what i'm doing. i tend to stick to gparted under ubuntu because i am lazy like that.  you may already have it installed [check system menu > administration], if not, it's only a sudo apt-get install away01:48
ebirtaidyes they will be kde liraries01:48
ebirtaidlibraries*01:49
ZaerathIt is fine here:01:49
Zaerathapt-cache search Konsole01:49
Zaerathkonsole - X terminal emulator for KDE01:49
MisterslurpeeHello, im getting unusual CPU usage about 56%01:49
Paddy_EIREavarner, type your login name.. then type password (password will not show up) press enter01:49
AudriilI'd paste the output in, but I'm running from cntl+alt+F201:49
joshwathanks so much. trying to make room for some backup. GIBBON01:49
ZaerathUse Pastebin.01:49
MisterslurpeeIs my CPU dying?01:49
ZaerathIf you do.01:49
tovellaAggort: in fact, you may be able to try again in a few hours, and find that it's been fixed.  I've seen this problem a few times, too.01:49
ZaerathOh, do you need to be able to copy it?01:49
ebirtaidmisterslurppe run top01:49
funky_gibbonmister: what does top say?01:49
avarnerPaddy_EIRE: just tried again still doesn't work NO INPUT01:49
Aggorttovella: Well i would think that too. However before trying to upgrade to gusty, I ran an update just fine. I am worried that I didn't let one of the other repo's to finish updating and it ruined the whole damned thing01:49
chuy_maxI have a touch screen monitor that uses usbhid driver, everytime I connect it I get different handlers (event?, where ? is a number from 0 to 6), is there a way to set an event that doesn't change?01:49
Alex_GaynorWhat time does Gutsy Gibbon launch?01:49
Misterslurpeeit says XORG is eating my CPU01:49
ZaerathAudrill: Do this. apt-cache search konsole > ~/results.txt01:49
avarnerPaddy_EIRE: it is impossible to put text in that screen that i get it is not the normal screen at all01:50
Paddy_EIREavarner, what do you mean.. no input?01:50
eighty4Alex_Gaynor, /topic01:50
ZaerathAlex_Gaynor: Tomorrow, midnight.01:50
funky_gibbonmister: control alt backspace :)01:50
SmegzorI'm trying to open a remote X session, but keep getting told the maximum number of sessions has been reached.  This is despite rebooting the box.  What do I edit to increase the maximum?01:50
Audriil<ebirtaid> I'm running linux mint... You'd think it would have the same repos as ubuntu.  Do you think this is a factor?01:51
joshwariot kittie, it just took me like 45 seconds to consolidate those partitions and make them all one ext3 partition. is that normal?01:51
funky_gibbonsmeg: using VNC or X11?01:51
arkanesSmegzor: contact your Microsoft licensing representative to purchase more client licenses01:51
joshwaits a 40gb01:51
tovellaAggort: oh, you attempted an upgrade - missed that part.  Still try again in a few hours, or perhaps tomorrow.  I'll bet their servers are really really busy, right about now.01:51
Smegzorx1101:51
joshwabut I know in windows it used to take like 10-15 minutes to format one hd01:51
funky_gibbonsmeg: connecting to an X session, not Windows RDP?01:51
Smegzorarkanes, Micro who?01:51
Audriil<joshwa> Took me over 3 hours... :(01:52
Smegzorlinux to linux.  forget windows01:52
funky_gibbonsmeg: what client are you using?01:52
MisterslurpeeOkay I logged out..01:52
ebirtaidaudriil:  I am fairly sure they use the same repos01:52
Paddy_EIREavarner, does the screen look anything like this http://www.paddyeire.talktalk.net/Screenshot-Terminal.png01:52
arkanesSmegzor: sorry, thats just (verbatim) the message you get when you try to remote desktop to a windows machine without enough CALs01:52
smmagicHow do I run qtparted as root?01:52
ebirtaidmint does that is01:52
MisterslurpeeXorg is now at 60% cpu01:52
funky_gibbon:O01:52
LinuxJuggalo!microsoft | arkanes01:52
ubotuarkanes: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents01:52
Audriil<ebirtaid>  Hmm.  Well, thanks.  I'll try to resolve this later'01:52
SmegzorI'm using X01:53
funky_gibbonfunky: are you using compiz?01:53
ebirtaidsmmagic: from a terminal sudo qtparted01:53
funky_gibbonsmeg: what's the command you're running and exact error msg?01:53
atlfalcons866does ubuntu have resiser401:53
AggortOk well while I am here. I have another interesting issue. Whenever I attempt to switch among users and stay logged in. I get a prompt about XGL or standard server. When choosing stadard it let's me stay logged in just fine. but when another user logs out or goes to switch user again the system hangs and inevitably I have to use CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE! This is very frustrating when I need to stay signed in for downloads and such01:53
MisterslurpeeWhats with these random CPU SPikes on XORG?01:53
Smegzor1 sec.  have to manually type it (different machine)01:53
Ward1983hahaha i never knew ##windows actually existed01:53
tovellasmmagic: 'gksu qtparted'01:53
HLMrohan: try Japan01:53
MisterslurpeeIs my Xorg.conf messed up?01:54
ebirtaidmisterslurpee:  are you using compositing?01:54
BUDD}{As it worth switching to 7.1001:54
AggortThat issue has been plaguing me for a while01:54
BUDD}{Ais*01:54
jimcooncatGuess it's a bad time to bring up my windows question...01:54
ZaerathBUDD}{A: That depends on your preference.01:54
Misterslurpeeebirtaid, ????01:54
LinuxJuggaloBUDD}{A: yes01:54
ZaerathBUDD}{A: Do you use Gnome?01:54
ebirtaidcompiz?01:54
BUDD}{Ayea01:54
ebirtaiddesktop effects01:54
funky_gibbonmister: he means Desktop Effects or compiz-fusion01:54
ZaerathBUDD}{A: Then yes. Gnome 2.20 is a significant improvement.01:54
MisterslurpeeNo01:54
smmagicAnd anyone know how to delete windows if it is mounted?01:54
ebirtaidwhat is your video card?01:55
Zaerathsmmagic: Unmount it. :P01:55
MisterslurpeeRADEON X1600 pro01:55
AggortWhenever I attempt to switch among users and stay logged in. I get a prompt about XGL or standard server. When choosing stadard it let's me stay logged in just fine. but when another user logs out or goes to switch user again the system hangs and inevitably I have to use CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE! This is very frustrating when I need to stay signed in for downloads and such01:55
ebirtaidsmmagic do you know what you are doing?01:55
ebirtaidbefore you start editing partitions01:55
ebirtaidmisterslurpee: have you installed the restricted drivers for it?01:55
AngryElfwhere does ubuntu store mdadm confguration?01:55
Paddy_EIRE!tab | ebirtaid BUDD}{A01:55
ubotuebirtaid BUDD}{A: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.01:55
Misterslurpeenope.01:55
chuy_maxhi bruenig :), I was wondering if you can help me with a doubt01:55
slack31337anyone know how to remove the "Debian" menu from the applications menu in fiesty01:56
hexstarSeveas: you here?01:56
ebirtaidthat be why01:56
BUDD}{Aryl whats the difference01:56
BUDD}{Asorry01:56
Smegzorfunky_gibbon, sudo X :1 vt8 -query 192.168.2.20 and the error back is XDMCP fatal error: Session declined Maximum number of open sessions reached.01:56
BUDD}{Ak01:56
Misterslurpeeso ati has em?01:56
Paddy_EIREslack31337, alacarte01:56
ebirtaidfn'Paddy_EIRE: what is your nick showing up as paddy?01:56
AggortWhenever I attempt to switch among users and stay logged in. I get a prompt about XGL or standard server. When choosing stadard it let's me stay logged in just fine. but when another user logs out or goes to switch user again the system hangs and inevitably I have to use CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE! This is very frustrating when I need to stay signed in for downloads and such01:56
ebirtaidwhen I do that01:56
Paddy_EIREno ebirtaid01:56
funky_gibbonmister: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:56
littlebwoskiwill someone give me a hand setting up ATI card S-video output01:56
Smegzorbut I rebooted the box I am trying to connect to and its not connected to the net so I'm clueless.01:56
wuboI've got a wacky problem... when I start gdb with a program to run it loads everything fine and displays the usual prompt. But, when I type run to start the program "vim" starts and complains "Error detected while processing command line: E15: Invalid expression: (my program)"01:56
BUDD}{Ai use beryl is gnome 2.0 better01:56
ebirtaidit showed up as fn;paddy_eire right?01:56
slack31337paddy alacarte?? i dont know what that is01:56
wubowhy in the world is gdb starting vim? this makes no sense01:56
ebirtaidfn' rather01:57
jimcooncatI want to run seamless 2003 servers via KVM on my two LTSP Ubuntu servers, and split the load among my users. Does Winbind authentication with Samba sound like the way to go?01:57
Paddy_EIREebirtaid, it shows up as Paddy_EIRE01:57
ebirtaidok cool01:57
Paddy_EIRE:)01:57
ebirtaid:D01:57
Misterslurpeeebirtaid, wheres this restriction driver?01:57
Aggort(I know I am starting to become very annoying) Whenever I attempt to switch among users and stay logged in. I get a prompt about XGL or standard server. When choosing stadard it let's me stay logged in just fine. but when another user logs out or goes to switch user again the system hangs and inevitably I have to use CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE! This is very frustrating when I need to stay signed in for downloads and such01:57
IntelligitimateI need help. Something is wrong with my settings, which is messing up everything I click on.01:57
IntelligitimateIt's like a double click is on or something.01:57
IntelligitimateSomeone help me!01:57
ebirtaidfn'Misterslurpee: you are running feisty?  there should be a restricted drivers under the system menu -> administration01:57
ebirtaidI think01:57
littlebwoskii am trying to get multiple monitor support using an ati svideo output01:58
slack31337foudn it thanks paddy01:58
Misterslurpeeall right.01:58
funky_gibbonsmeg: I think it might be a setting in GDM somewhere01:58
AggortIntelligitamate: Be a bit more prcise, what are you clicking on... could it be your mouse, so on so forth01:58
smoenuxXD ... what time is it in the us??01:58
pawanhi01:58
AggortWhenever I attempt to switch among users and stay logged in. I get a prompt about XGL or standard server. When choosing stadard it let's me stay logged in just fine. but when another user logs out or goes to switch user again the system hangs and inevitably I have to use CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE! This is very frustrating when I need to stay signed in for downloads and such01:58
pawanwhen is the new version coming out01:58
Misterslurpeeebirtaid, thanx01:58
jimcooncatIntelligitimate: does log out, log in clear it out? cookie crumb in the mouse button?01:58
AggortThursday01:58
ebirtaidnp01:58
eighty4pawan, when it's ready. see the /topic.01:58
IntelligitimateHaven't tried a log out--log in yet.01:59
xIkeanyone know how to add authentication to an ldap server?01:59
pawanthey said on thursday01:59
Aggort(one last time) Whenever I attempt to switch among users and stay logged in. I get a prompt about XGL or standard server. When choosing stadard it let's me stay logged in just fine. but when another user logs out or goes to switch user again the system hangs and inevitably I have to use CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE! This is very frustrating when I need to stay signed in for downloads and such01:59
funky_gibbonagg: check the forums.. I'd say it's because of the hackery to get Xgl running01:59
eighty4yes, and in some parts of the world it's only been thursday for two or three hours. thursday hasn't even hit some countries yet ;-)01:59
atlfalcons866is gusty gibbon lts01:59
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Smegzorfunky_gibbon, yeah probably.  I have a shell connected to the box via putty so I can get edit stuff..01:59
ebirtaidfn'atlfalcons866: I dont think so01:59
smmagicsudo umount /media/windows/ Doesn't work01:59
eighty4atlfalcons866, no. hardy (8.04) will be IIRC.02:00
Aggortthanks funky didn't think I;d find it there02:00
wuboany experienced developers in the room? any suggestions on a more appropriate room to ask ubuntu related development questions in?02:00
atlfalcons866whats IIRC mean02:00
eighty4if i remember correctly = IIRC02:00
ebirtaidthe new lts release will be whenever dappers support ends02:00
jimcooncatIntelligitimate: If log out -- log in works then think about the software you ran during your last session.02:00
atlfalcons866whens gutsy being released02:00
wuboInternet relay chat02:00
ebirtaidtonight02:00
funky_gibbonsmeg: edit /etc/gdm.conf02:01
atlfalcons866what time02:01
funky_gibbonsmeg: #MaxSessions=1602:01
ebirtaidmidnight in some time zone02:01
funky_gibbonsmeg: uncomment that.. maybe increase it?02:01
funky_gibbonsmeg: then /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:01
LinuxJuggalowubo: #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-programming02:01
wuboLinuxJuggalo: thank you02:01
funky_gibbonsmeg: there's also #DisplaysPerHost=202:02
jimcooncatI want to run seamless Win 2003 servers via KVM on my two LTSP Ubuntu servers, and split the load among my users. Does Winbind authentication with Samba sound like the way to go?02:02
BUDD}{Athe new one looks good02:02
Smegzorthanks02:03
IntelligitimateLog out - log in did not help.02:03
SidDoes everything on linux have to be open sourcE?02:03
smmagicsudo umount /media/windows/ Why isn't that working?02:03
IntelligitimateThere is some kind of god-awful double clicking thing going on.02:03
funky_gibbonsid: not at all02:03
Nicarkgutsy's coming!!!02:03
ebirtaidsid not necessarily02:03
Sidfunky_gibbon: Then why don't Adobe and other commercial companies make software02:03
graelbAnyone know a command to list other computers on the network?02:03
soneilI seem to have difficulty finding this on ubuntu.com - what's the next LTS release?02:04
jimcooncatSid, nope02:04
graelbi think it's a command for samba02:04
funky_gibbonsid: ask them :)02:04
mc44!hardy | soneil02:04
ubotusoneil: Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron02:04
Paddy_EIRE!hardy | soneil02:04
soneilmc44: perfect, thanks02:04
Paddy_EIREoops02:04
joshwaI can't believe it's time again already for another release.02:04
Smegzorfunky_gibbon, I can't see gdm.conf in /etc  It'll be somewhere else but where?02:04
soneilPaddy_EIRE: no worries, the bot's clever.  and galway eire here :o)02:04
ebirtaidevery 6 months02:04
SkyblastWhat does everyone use for their video media player?02:04
funky_gibbonsid: you can run a lot of Windows only software using WINE or in a VMWare02:04
eighty4Sid, because linux's desktop market share is negligible right now and the cost of developing the software massively overrides the possible sales they'll make from it.02:04
joshwafeels like just yesterday I was installing edgy02:04
funky_gibbonsmeg: locate gdm.conf02:04
Paddy_EIREsoneil, hey man...02:05
ebirtaidfn'Smegzor: locate gdm.conf02:05
ebirtaid;p02:05
kanjohow funny is that there is no /etc/inittab in Ubuntu? Can someone give me insight on upstart here?02:05
Smegzorfound it02:05
funky_gibbonsmeg: sorry, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf02:05
sorbixanyone else have problems with emacs22 and dpkg during the 7.10 upgrade02:05
LinuxJuggaloim bored02:05
LinuxJuggalo!offtopic > LinuxJuggalo02:06
ebirtaidfn'LinuxJuggalo: get drunk02:06
funky_gibbonlinux: want to mow my lawn?02:06
funky_gibbon:)02:06
jimcooncatSkyblast: I use totem 'cause it came with Feisty.02:06
DILstick your toe in your ear02:06
funky_gibbonyou can even do it drunk if you like02:06
sorbixdpkg wont configure emacs22 :(02:06
Sid!ubuntu02:06
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com02:06
Sid!debian02:06
ubotuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!02:06
ebirtaidsid jesus man02:06
ebirtaidjust gtfo02:06
eighty4!botabuse | Sid02:06
ubotuSid: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:06
SidIs Debian or ubuntu more stable?02:06
funkybsomeone say get drunk?  *cheers*02:06
smmagicHow do I unmount my windows partition? sudo umount /media/windows/ Isn't working?02:06
Paddy_EIRESid, google!02:07
Sid!botabuse eighty402:07
Ward1983There seems te be a lot of latency on my wacom02:07
ebirtaidheh02:07
SidHow come some printers arent supported02:07
gaurishis ubuntu.com down??02:07
Ward1983is there some way to improve that?02:07
Ward1983its not possible to write like this02:07
ebirtaidubuntu.org02:07
SidGaurish: theres probably too many people downloading the new ubuntu02:07
smmagicWorks for me02:07
Ex-Cyberworks here too02:07
funkybsmmagic - i unmounted my win drives by editing /etc/fstab  - I cannot say if that way is best, but umount didn't work02:08
SidIt's ubuntu.com not org02:08
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gaurishSid, can you leak the link?02:08
ebirtaidI misread02:08
TheMoebiusso I think my boot partition is full because when i tried to do the latest upgrade on gutsy I got an error on /boot/initrd.img blah blah gzip: stdout: No space left on device.02:08
Skyblastubuntu.com works fine for me02:08
ebirtaidindeed02:08
SidGaurish: I don't use ubuntu02:09
TheMoebiusthere are a bunch of old kernels listed in grub that I don't need anymore - how can i just delete them?02:09
ebirtaidfn'TheMoebius: remove some of the old kernel images?02:09
Avarielanybody know how i could access video files stored in an external hard drive under ntfs ?02:09
ebirtaidsid: obviously02:09
IntelligitimateI need help!02:09
SidGaurish: I'm using home sweet Windows since uTorrent > any linux torrent client02:09
BUDD}{Ais 7.10 only going to be on dvd?02:09
SkyblastRun uTorrent in Wine02:09
ebirtaidif its that big a deal yea02:09
Paddy_EIREno BUDD}{A02:09
SidSkyblast: you don't get fast enough speeds02:09
jimcooncatTheMoebius: what does df tell you?02:09
gaurishAnyone here can leak the download link for gutsy?02:09
eighty4gaurish, no.02:09
TheMoebiusebirtaid: how do I go about removing them?02:09
jdongBUDD}{A: no, it'll be on CD02:09
Paddy_EIREgaurish, no.. stop asking it'll be out when its out02:10
delude88does anybody knows what gutsy is downloadable02:10
delude88?02:10
BUDD}{Anice my dvd burner broke02:10
funky_gibbongaurish: we all know it, but won't tell you02:10
TheMoebiusjimcooncat: yeah /boot is 98%02:10
jdongdelude88: tomorrow :)02:10
delude88we actually have tomorrow02:10
* CITguy sees that people are excited like little children on Christmas Eve02:10
SkyblastReally? Works fine for me02:10
delude88;)02:10
ryan__#02:10
ryan__#ubuntu02:11
pavsgutsy tonight or tomorrow night?02:11
gaurishfunky_gibbon, why thats bad you are stopping the flow of knowledge :S02:11
tovelladelude88: the "release candidate" is available now - the actual release will be available tomorrow.02:11
Avarielyeah well im kinda pissed....cuz whats gonna happen is the servers will be flooded so most of us probably wont get gutsy until december hits02:11
LjLpavs: read the topic02:11
Avarielso it WILL be a christmas thing02:11
Fryguy--hrmm, I need a better terminal than gnome-terminal02:11
funky_gibbongaurish: because I'm mean and evil bwahaha02:11
mc44Avariel: the torrents are fast02:11
ebirtaidin your /boot directory02:11
mc44Avariel: such is the magic of torrents02:11
delude88tovella:the rc is not downloadable at the moment02:11
eighty4Avariel, the torrents should stand up to the flooding better02:11
ebirtaidremove the lower numbered kernels02:11
jimcooncatTheMoebius: you'll have to get into /boot/grub/menu.lst to find out which kernels are in use02:11
pavsi am using bitchx i cant read the topic without going out of the room02:11
SkyblastYou can also remove old kernel images in synaptic02:11
Avarielyou think theyll survive ?02:11
funky_gibbonfry: better in what way?02:12
Avarielwho knows how many million people will be attacking02:12
pavsok got it02:12
ebirtaidit would be funny if they just didnt release gutsy until friday02:12
eighty4pavs, i don't use bitchx but try /topic #ubuntu02:12
Technito20if yall would be so kind to check out and rate my new video -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=uA9Yfb-wUOE02:12
Avarieli mean, this very room today is overflowing with excitement02:12
pavseighty4 thanks got it02:12
mc44!offtopic | Technito2002:12
ubotuTechnito20: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:12
Technito20ah I see.02:13
Technito20healthy amount of users here :p02:13
eighty4delude88, i think the RC is still available from the ubuntu.com bittorrent tracker02:13
Avarieli just wish my ubuntu could read the contents of an external hard drive i have in ntfs format !02:13
ebirtaidfn'Avariel: install ntfs-3g02:13
atlfalcons866!mark02:13
ubotuMark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com02:13
delude88eighty4: surely youre right, but i have alot of time02:13
Avarielebirtaid: whats ntfs-3g ?02:13
jflashHi, is there a more visual way than Putty to administer my remote ubuntu server?02:13
Paddy_EIRE!ntfs-3g | Avariel02:14
ubotuAvariel: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:14
ebirtaid^^^02:14
Avarielawesome ill check that out02:14
SidFryguy: whats the difference between a terminal and gnome terminal?02:14
mdl-unitebirtaid: I ended up just having to purge vmware-player and install vmware-server (and registering for a serial number)02:14
ebirtaidnothing02:14
ebirtaidthat worked?02:14
jflashone that i dont have to type to browse directories?02:14
mdl-unitYeah, pretty much.  I guess there are some issues with the player/.02:14
smoenuxer.... how do I copy my complete home folder to the other drive? 'sudo cp -R /home /media/hda2' ???02:15
ebirtaidI've never bothered with the player, server works fine for me02:15
eighty4jflash, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC is one option02:15
ebirtaid-r02:15
ebirtaidnot -R02:15
smoenuxtx02:15
jflashok , but then my server would have to allow it?02:15
funky_gibbonsmoenux: use cp -ax to stay on the one filesystem and preserve permissions, timestamps, etc.02:15
eighty4yes02:15
jflashhow do I found out if i can use vnc? it's a VPS account02:16
jflashdo i have to call my hosting company?02:16
eighty4jflash, talk to your provider.02:16
jflashi dont think VNC is supported :-/02:16
jflashotherwise they would have told me02:16
smoenuxfunky_gibbon .. kk.. so I can just do that to copy it to my second partition, and then install gutsy on the first, and point it to the 2nd partition as the home folder, right?02:16
delude88~at what time (8o'clock ..) will the gutsy be downloadable because tomorow is a not exact ;-) *g*02:16
ebirtaid23 hours from now02:17
Paddy_EIREdelude88, next week02:17
stray77i use realvnc viewer to connect from xp to ubuntu with desktop sharing enabled02:17
riotkittiedelude88: if anybody knew an exact time, people would not be saying "tomorrow"02:17
ebirtaidcontext clues*02:17
eighty4delude88, the 42nd of october at 13:37.02:17
smoenuxapparently ... according to another chat... they are busy uploading the cd's to the mirrors now02:17
Technito20got a question. I know it's not related but what does this "Undefined string" thing mean?02:18
delude88eighty4: ok hope im still alive at this date ;-)02:18
atlfalcons866is gusty out now02:18
delude88other question: does somebody knows troubles with alsa and modprobe ?02:18
funky_gibbonsmoenux: yep.. just make sure if it's going to be mounted under /home you don't end up with /home/home/username02:18
ebirtaidfn'atlfalcons866: what is your deal02:19
ebirtaidyou didn't hear it isnt being released?02:19
atlfalcons866no02:19
ebirtaidyea man02:19
eighty4atlfalcons866, not yet. please stop asking; check http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ in a few hours02:19
ebirtaidcanonical is out of busniess02:19
catachubuntu has been cancelled02:19
tsukasaokay so i have a bunch of programs launching at startup... and gnome never remembers the window positions... is there anything i can do about it?02:19
atlfalcons866ok i am not going to sleep until gutsy comes out =)02:19
smoenuxtx funky_gibbon.... :P knowing me... I'll prob end up with home/home .. .lol... then I'll reinstall and do it right the second time lol02:20
CITguytsukasa: do you want those programs launched?02:20
delude88does somebody know trouble fixing with alsa and modprobe ? need help ...02:20
funky_gibbonsmoenux: or /home/<contents of /home/username>02:20
tsukasaCITguy, yes, but i want them in the same window positions as when i either logoff or when i set them02:20
tsukasaCITguy, preferably to the extent that minimized programs stay minimized too02:20
ebirtaidfn'tsukasa: gnome can't do that02:20
ebirtaidyou could use devilspie maybe02:21
tsukasadevilspie?02:21
funky_gibbonsmoenux: all you have to do is make sure if you've mounted the 2nd partition in /media/whatever you end up with /media/whatever/username/<contents of /home/username> :)02:21
ebirtaidit is a program which controls window placement02:21
jarrod_how can i change the read only permission?02:21
dongjDoes anyone know the best IRC client for ubuntu?02:21
ebirtaidfn'dongj: irssi02:21
dongjuse chmod +w02:21
funky_gibbonmister: how did you go?02:21
CITguyoh, ok. well, as far as getting them to start in the same position. I'm not sure how to do that. The save session option only opens the applications that were open. It doesn't currently have the capability of placing them on the correct desktops or same position.02:21
smoenuxkk :) tx funky_gibbon02:21
eighty4dongj, one of the most popular graphical clients is xchat, and CLI clients include irssi and bitchx. Look in Applications - Add/Remove.02:22
Misterslurpeehello02:22
BUDD}{Aso are they going to put up a torrent because i think everyone in the known world will be trying to get 7.10 at the same time02:22
sixr420-anybody read the RIAA going after usenet.com02:22
* CITguy says hi02:22
Avarielwell i installed the ntfs-config as the instructions said...and i can enable write support from the system tools...but i cant access the data within the partition...02:22
eighty4BUDD}{A, yes there will be torrents.02:22
ebirtaidhttp://foosel.org/linux/devilspie02:22
funky_gibbonjarrod: you can also right click on the file/dir in the File Browser and select the Permissions tab02:22
tovelladongj: "the best" will vary from person to person.  for me, Pidgin works great.02:22
Avarielis that normal ?02:22
ebirtaidcheck that tsukasa02:22
Misterslurpeeargh02:22
extrakicksup everyone02:22
funky_gibbonjarrod: Properties -> Permissions that is02:22
Misterslurpeemy graphics is screwed up when i installed the restriction02:22
pinkey(I just finished installing Gutsy.... so nice and easy.  Goodbye Gentoo, after all these years.)02:23
Misterslurpeeits all blocky02:23
extrakickwondering is anyone having problems wit getting logitech usb mic to work on amsn02:23
ebirtaidblocky how?02:23
JohnRobertI have several hundred photos, all a bit dis-organised..many duplicates.. is there a nice gnome tool for ubuntu that can help me remove the duplicates?02:23
Misterslurpeelike i can barely see, its all garbled and there are only bits and pieces of windows02:23
ebirtaidfn'JohnRobert: haha pr0n02:23
JohnRobertlol, no travel photos02:24
JohnRobertpron is youporn.com02:24
jarrod_funky_gibbon: im not sure if this is possible, but this is a harddrive formatted with mac 9.10.02:24
ebirtaid:D02:24
Misterslurpeelol, i can barely see xchat02:24
kurisutofuaain firefox how do I set ctrl+shift+d to bookmark all open tabs in a folder?02:24
extrakickis it possible to mount vcd images on ubuntu 7.0402:24
extrakick.cue and .bin02:24
tovellapinkey: welcome to the club.02:24
ebirtaidfn'JohnRobert: I don't know of one you can use fspot for organising though02:24
tsukasaebirtaid, kinda crude but it works02:24
tsukasaty02:24
ebirtaidnp02:24
extrakick!bin02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:24
Misterslurpeeany ideas02:24
funky_gibbonjarrod: yeah, not sure about that one.. google :)02:25
extrakick!cue02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:25
extrakick!vcd02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:25
ebirtaidfn'Misterslurpee: short of going back and disabling it not really02:25
ebirtaidI dont know about ati cards02:25
CITguyubotu doesn't seem very knowledgeable does it?02:25
Misterslurpee:(02:25
funky_gibbonmister: is the driver actually loaded?02:25
Misterslurpeeyeah it said it did02:25
jimcooncatextrakick: /msg ubuto and ask him all night02:25
funky_gibbonmister: if you're using desktop effects make sure glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled02:25
MisterslurpeeNope02:26
Misterslurpeeall my text overlaps02:26
funky_gibbonmister: lsmod | grep fglrx02:26
Misterslurpeeits very strange02:26
ebirtaidis it at the proper resolution02:26
ebirtaidand refresh rates?02:26
XorlevMm, so I'm downgrading to a RAID1. Anyone see a problem with me just starting two different arrays, one RAID5 with one missing drive, one RAID1 with one missing drive, copying RAID5 -> RAID1, dissolving RAID5, picking a drive to complete RAID1 and then removing the remaining drive?02:27
delude88can somebody help me with modprobe and alsa ?02:27
funky_gibbonmister: best bet is the forums I'd say.. there'll be lots of howtos and troubleshooting02:27
ebirtaidagreed02:27
Paddy_EIREXorlev, sounds like fun02:27
XorlevPaddy_EIRE: Yer, :\02:27
Paddy_EIRE:)02:28
Misterslurpeeyeah02:28
snowdonkeyHi.  Does anyone know the exact time Gusty's released?02:28
Misterslurpeei tried all the resolutions02:28
Misterslurpeeif i remove focus from the window i can see02:28
minusHow do I change so that I have to doubleclick in KDE?02:28
funky_gibbonmister: disable Desktop Effects and search the forums02:28
XorlevPaddy_EIRE: I'm out of space though, and copying files to my RAID5 through Windows with VMWare running Ubuntu isn't fast by any means.02:28
eighty4snowdonkey, no. it'll probably be some time in the next 24 hours; http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ in a couple of hours02:28
Paddy_EIREoh man02:28
Misterslurpee i dont have desktop effects on.02:29
XorlevPaddy_EIRE: Sadly, my desktop turned into my media center with tons of videos and games on Windows.02:29
funky_gibbonmister: run: lsmod | grep fglrx02:29
ebirtaidxorlev: wubi02:29
Xorlevebirtaid?02:29
snowdonkeyeighty4: Ok thx.02:29
Misterslurpeecan u repeat that a couple times02:30
ebirtaidman n/m I didnt read your initial post ;p02:30
Misterslurpeeits all garbled02:30
Paddy_EIREXorlev, why have you resorted to such a complicated raid arrangement02:30
sorbixahhhh got fglrx to work!02:30
sorbixfinally02:30
XorlevI used to run a nice RAID5 when my desktop was primarily Linux02:30
jflashhow can I tell if my VPS server supports VNC connections?02:30
jflashi contacted the company but i fear they will take over 24 hours to get back to me02:31
pawanhi02:31
pawanwhen is the new version coming out02:31
funky_gibbonjflash: what OS?  it will have to be running a VNC server02:31
LjLpawan: type /topic02:31
ebirtaidfn'funky_gibbon: 21:32:05 <fn'Misterslurpee> fglrx                 540004  1102:32
ebirtaid21:32:05 <fn'Misterslurpee> agpgart                35400  2 fglrx,intel_agp02:32
Sid!ubotu restricted driver manager02:32
iamninjadb02:32
Sid!restricted driver manager02:32
LjL!bot02:32
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:33
xIkeanyone know how to add authentication to an ldap server?02:33
yell0whey guys, is there a way to stop vmware server to run at boot ?02:34
funky_gibbonyell0w: sudo apt-get install bum02:35
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yell0wfunky_gibbon, vmware's not included in bum02:35
yell0weven though there's an entry in /etc/init.d02:35
macdxIke, thats one of those if you dont know you shouldnt be doing it questions02:35
funky_gibbonyell0w: try sysv-rc-conf02:36
funky_gibbonyell0w: it's there for me :)02:36
yell0wfunky_gibbon, yes it's there, but i don't want to start that script at boot time02:37
kidbuntuis 7.10 already released?02:37
kidbuntu!7.1002:37
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information02:37
Seeker`kidbuntu: no02:37
lImItaO:(02:37
funky_gibbonyell0w: so uncheck it from the runlevels02:38
kidbuntuSeeker`: whats the ETA of its release. i'm not sure with your time zone there02:38
Havenoleave02:38
yell0wfunky_gibbon, with sysv-rc-conf ?02:38
Seeker`kidbuntu: Some time in the next 24 hours02:38
funky_gibbonyell0w: affirmative02:38
delude88need help with alsa & modprobe ...02:38
macdyell0w, the proper way is to 'update-rc.d -f vmware-server remove02:38
macdyell0w, that assumes the item is called vmware-server in /etc/init.d/02:38
funky_gibbonor you could do it the proper way.. ;)02:38
macdIts also the easiest ;)02:39
kidbuntuSeeker`: i'll probably wait until it comes down to oct 19 here.02:39
yell0wfunky_gibbon, macd, lol, thanks02:39
kidbuntu!compiz02:39
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager02:39
kidbuntu!compizfusion02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:39
yell0wmacd, one thing though, if i remove it, can i still do /etc/init.d/vmware-server and start it back up ?02:40
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minus3.5 hours of sleep! YES! :D02:40
minusGood night ppl02:40
ebirtaidpz02:40
yell0wmacd, or is it deleted from /etc/init.d once i do that02:40
cavediverHi. Does Ubuntu have support for sound through HDMI?02:40
macdyell0w, if you want to add it back on boot, change remove to add, or to start it manually sudo /etc/init.d/vmware-server start02:40
cavediverThinking of building a htpc02:40
Wistesohdmi is a hardware conversion02:40
Wistesonot software02:40
cavediverOh really.02:41
macdyell0w,   it just removes the sym links to the runlevels02:41
atlfalcons866is dapper drake the most stable version of ubuntu02:41
Wistesohdmi == dvi02:41
yell0wmacd, i gotcha02:41
jonathan__any body can help me please? I got a problem02:41
yell0wmacd, thanks02:41
jonathan__Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds.  If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskspace.  Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.02:41
macdatlfalcons866, its the LTS release, so I'd say thats a safe bet.02:41
cavediverWisteso: so the sound will work then automagically ?02:41
jonathan__and this is the detail of the prob02:41
jonathan__/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp02:41
jonathan__/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "joje"02:41
jonathan__/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...02:41
jonathan__SESSION_MANAGER=local/joje-desktop:/tmp/.ICE-unix/623702:41
jonathan__Initializing gnome-mount extension02:41
jonathan__(update-notifier:6347): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:02:41
jonathan__IO error occured opening connection.02:41
littlebwoskii am trying to get the new xorg gui config to use dual screen and its just not doing it...any suggestiions02:41
Wistesono, you'd need a hardware converter that took dvi and some type of audio-in02:42
Laikanohow do i enable dial up acess?02:42
macd!pastebin | jonathan__02:42
ubotujonathan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:42
bobby_Compiz Fusion runs very nice in my 32bit setup, but I am really considering switching to 64bit Ubuntu since I have a Athlon 64. Will I have any trouble with Compiz Fusion?02:42
Wistesocave: http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/EXT-DVIAUD-2-HDMI.htm02:42
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cavediverWisteso: wait a minute, why would I want that ?02:43
cyber_brain_mfkghi there! how to install atl1.ko module???i've tried insmod /.../.../atl1.ko but it says wrong module format!!:S !!! what to do???02:43
jonathan__don't have time to use pastebin, macd, my internet very slow02:43
macdbobby_, not with compiz, but possibly with many other things02:43
blazemongerTCPA 1F779F56 what does that mean?02:43
Picijonathan__: Thats not an excuse.02:43
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blazemongertrusted computing? if so how do i disable it02:43
Wistesobecause comptuer video cards dont output HDMI02:43
Wistesothey only output DVI02:43
cavediverI have a matx-card that send both picture and sound through HDMI.02:43
blazemongerand this thing SUCKS for linuxx02:43
jonathan__--"02:43
macdjonathan__, well, you may find yourself removed from the channel if you do it again, the ops are pretty strict about flooding02:43
sirjoebobdoes anyone know of a gdesklet that will just display html???02:43
Wistesobut DVI and HDMI use the same protocol. it's just the hardware difference02:43
Laikanoi can seem to get internet dial up running in version 7.0402:43
cavediverWisteso: really ? Why is that ?02:43
cyber_brain_mfkghi there! how to install atl1.ko module???i've tried insmod /.../.../atl1.ko but it says wrong module format!!:S !!! what to do???02:43
jonathan__--"02:44
jonathan__wait a sec02:44
cavediverWisteso: So my HDMI on my motherboard is really DVI ?02:44
cavediverThat's more than super-weird to me02:44
WistesoCave: yeah unless the manufacturer specifically added an HDMI output02:44
cyber_brain_mfkg!modules02:44
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »02:44
cavediverWisteso: It's a HDMI port.02:44
macdcavediver, most boards have DVI-HDMI pigtails, or just a straight HDMI jack.02:44
cyber_brain_mfkg!insmod02:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about insmod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:44
Avarielis there any way to change the glassy brown window frames from ubuntu to another color ?02:45
jimcooncatcyber_brain_mfkg: you tried modprobe02:45
Wistesocave: then it should look the same to linux as DVI02:45
sirjoebobdoes anyone know of a gdesklet that will just display html??? anybody have any ideas?02:45
Avarieli searched in the gconf-editor cant find it02:45
macdAvariel, sure, System --> Prefs --> Themes02:45
CITguyanyone have experience troubleshooting a wireless NIC?02:45
cavediverWisteso: ok but the sound then? Would it send the sound just as Win would do ?02:45
macdAvariel, just pick another one you like, you can also tweak your existing theme there02:45
jareddoes anyone know where a good guide to install compiz from scratch is?02:45
Sidcyber_brain: Check out the ubuntu wiki02:45
MasterShrekCITguy, what kinda nic?02:45
jonathan__http://pastebin.ca/74059802:45
blazemongerhow do i get ubuntu working on a ibm thinkcentre s0?02:45
Avarieland can you download more themes  as you can with mozilla ?02:45
jonathan__there http://pastebin.ca/74059802:46
CITguyZonet (Libertas chip)02:46
extrakickhello i got slight problem02:46
marcelo_hell yeah tomorrow is the day02:46
Wistesocave: well either 1) it doesn't support sound in hdmi or 2) it probably uses your on-board sound02:46
riotkittieAvariel: yes. try gnome-look.org for starters02:46
MasterShrekno idea CITguy02:46
extrakicki've instlled AcetoneISO2AcetoneISO202:46
CITguyit's worked before, but recently it's crapped out on me02:46
riotkittieerrr. D:02:46
cyber_brain_mfkgjimcooncat,  yes!it says FATAL: module .... can't be found!!!02:46
Laikanoi can seem to get internet dial up running in version 7.0402:46
Laikanohelp pls02:46
blazemongerthe video is wierdd02:46
hdevalenceI want to dual-boot Debian and Ubuntu. My concern is about the GRUB menu.lst. will the (Ubuntu) Debian Automagic Kernel List get screwed up by the (Debian) Debian Automagic kernel list?02:46
Avarielthanks02:46
blazemongerit wont let me use 1024x76802:46
Wistesocave: hopefully you dont need any proprietary software to use that, because i doubt they'll have a linux binary02:46
amrhello , is there any app in ubuntu that enable me to download a website to browse it offline02:46
marcelo_UBUNTU 7.10 TOMORROW02:46
macdcavediver, yeah Id imagine you want to research that before you take the plunge.02:47
extrakickand it installed KDE dependencies, is there a way to uninstall it as well as everyting it instaled to get it working?02:47
cavediverWisteso: The mb supports sound through HDMI and it works in win, but I don't know if it workes in Linux. You just choose HDMI in sound output02:47
homerjtomorrow is today in some places02:47
Mr_Giraffewhat directory are command symlinks in?02:47
jimcooncatcyber_brain_mfkg: maybe a path problem? did you put it there manually?02:47
bobby_Compiz Fusion runs very nice in my 32bit setup, but I am really considering switching to 64bit Ubuntu since I have a Athlon 64. Will I have any trouble with Compiz Fusion?02:47
Mr_Giraffe!symlinks02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about symlinks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:47
dystopianrayMr_Giraffe: /bin and /usr/bin ?02:47
Mr_Giraffedystopianray, i guess :P02:47
emeristeI've been up for 74 days but now I have to reboot :(02:47
macdMr_Giraffe, sym links are in their target directories, if you mean a command alias, its stored in your bash_profile02:47
blazemongeri cant get things working right on this system that im using02:47
blazemonger:(02:47
blazemongerwhy is it so hard to find a normal PC02:48
cyber_brain_mfkgjimcooncat, i've put atl1.ko in temp directory!02:48
extrakicki guess no1 can help me wit that, hehehe02:48
lImItaOwhen is spected the release?02:48
MasterShreklImItaO, soon02:48
dystopianraylImItaO: october 1802:48
cyber_brain_mfkgjimcooncat, should i put it somewhere else?02:48
macdlImItaO, did you bother to read the channel topic ;)02:48
Wistesocave: sounds like it might be proprietary. i'd just try the live CD.   i couldn't tell ya how they're implementing the switch02:48
cavediverWisteso: ok02:49
lImItaOhehehe02:49
lImItaOnope02:49
jimcooncatcyber_brain_mfkg: I think so. Something about /temp, but I disremember02:49
MocI hate the wait02:50
cavediverMoc: wait for what ?02:50
minusMoc, for what?02:50
MasterShrekgutsy02:50
minuscavediver, meh..02:50
hyper_b0leChristmas evidently02:50
cavediverminus: to slow02:50
minuscavediver, I noticed...02:50
jared!compiz02:50
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager02:50
Mocyep Gutsy02:50
jimcooncatcyber_brain_mfkg: I think it may have to be prepped for your linux kernel also, if it's not made for the same version.02:50
Mochope that will be the desktop linux I finally embrace... 7.04 was close02:51
cavediverMoc: just install RC and update a few packages later tonight, volia! :)02:51
minuscavediver, I wouldn't do that..02:51
MasterShrekMoc, what did 7.04 lack?02:51
cavediverminus: why not ?02:51
dystopianraydon't install the RC, install thel atest daily-build02:51
MasterShrekminus, why not?02:51
cyber_brain_mfkgjimcooncat, are you using this module for your ethx card???02:51
MasterShrekrc worlds fine02:51
MasterShrekworks*02:52
minusIts better to install the official release..02:52
minusMasterShrek, I know.. im running it..02:52
cavediverminus: and why is that ?02:52
MasterShrekmeh02:52
ver1982hi02:52
MocMasterShrek: mostly had hardware issues... hoping the kernel upgrade fix my issues... I could try the RC, but .. I can wait alittle longer02:52
Sid<3 Windows02:52
jimcooncatcyber_brain_mfkg: no, I'm using very generic hardware02:52
ver1982is gutsy already released?02:52
H264Everybody: join the party... #ubuntu-release-party02:52
cavediverver1982: no02:52
youknowmeI'm making a dvd::rip node and I'm having trouble setting up the data store. Dvd::rip tells me it can't "cd" into "smb://joe-desktop/dvdripdata". But I can find no other way to access it. Help?02:52
SidDoes anyone know a torrent client as fast as uTOorrent on Debian?02:52
ver1982oh02:52
minuscavediver, don't know rly.. just to be certain that everything is bugfree02:52
MasterShrekMoc, what kinda issues? i can maybe give u an idea of what may work02:52
ver1982when should it be released02:52
minusSid, uTorrent02:52
Sid!ubuntu02:52
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com02:52
ver1982it already oct 18 here02:52
ver1982:)02:53
minusSid, uTorrent with wine..02:53
ver1982it's*02:53
MasterShrekver1982, sometime within the next 24 hrs02:53
dystopianraySid: try ktorrent02:53
ver1982ok02:53
ver1982thanks02:53
hyper_b0leAnyone else having trouble loading the header of ubuntu.com?02:53
Oli``Sid: I find ktorrent a pretty good alternative02:53
Oli``nice IP blockign features02:53
ver1982i'll be going home early today as soon as gutsy gets released :D02:53
MasterShrekhyper_b0le, no, try changing mirrors02:53
hyper_b0lesorted02:53
youknowmeHow would I cd into a network folder? The folder is "smb://joe-desktop/dvdripdata"02:53
MasterShreklol @ ver1982, thats a little extreme isnt it? =P02:53
KamatsuI've been f5'ing all day today.. still 00 days to go :( and it's the 18th here.02:53
Si1!ubuntu02:53
Si1!suse02:53
Si1!linux02:53
Si1!kernel02:53
Si1!antivirus02:53
Si1!rpm02:54
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com02:54
blazemongerACPI: TCPA 1F779F56, 0032 does that mean my ystem has TPM?02:54
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)02:54
Si1!deb02:54
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux02:54
ver1982haha yeah02:54
Si1!windows02:54
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages02:54
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus02:54
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)02:54
MasterShrek!ops02:54
MocWell Im having an hard time to remember exactly what was my problem... It was power related (for example, the system couldn't reboot automaticly after a shutdown)02:54
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)02:54
hyper_b0le7.10 out? http://www.ubuntu.com/02:54
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents02:54
minusWhat time is 7.10 released?02:54
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici02:54
cyber_brain_mfkgjimcooncat, the problem is that i can't compile it from source because i connect to internet via eth and Ubuntu doesn't have make and linux-headers by default!:(02:54
tonyyarussominus: #ubuntu-release-party02:54
tonyyarussoMasterShrek: ?02:54
MasterShrekban si1's vhost02:54
MasterShrekkickin the bot's arse02:54
Wistesolmao maxonline?02:54
hyper_b0leTheres a big upgrade button on it :P02:54
LjLMasterShrek: thank you, how would i have thought of that...02:54
tonyyarussoAh, I see02:54
MasterShrektonyyarusso, didnt =P02:55
youknowmeHow would I cd into a network folder? The folder is "smb://joe-desktop/dvdripdata"02:55
jimcooncatI'm sorry cyber_brain_mfkg, what driver are you using?02:55
cyber_brain_mfkgjimcooncat, atl1.ko!!!02:56
hyper_b0leCheck your update manager, see if theres 36 updates that it wont let you install.02:56
Wisteso /dvdripdata..   heh02:56
blazemongeribm thinkcentre SS002:56
youknowmeWisteso, problem with that?02:56
MasterShrekblazemonger, whats the problem?02:56
LinuxJuggaloyo i got an old toshiba libretto here, how can i install ubuntu into that little thing?02:56
hyper_b0leGuiz, they're updating the website :P02:57
MasterShrekLinuxJuggalo, does it have a cd drive or no?02:57
hyper_b0leF5 spamming02:57
LinuxJuggaloMasterShrek: nope02:57
LinuxJuggaloMasterShrek: not even USB lol02:57
MasterShrek!install | LinuxJuggalo02:57
ubotuLinuxJuggalo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate02:57
IntelligitimateI am literally about to go insane.02:57
P_Kable|laptopI need to print out the outpout of the terminal but there is no such option in the menus ...02:57
IntelligitimateSomething is wrong with how my mouse is now functioning, and I'm sure it is not the mouse itself.02:57
jared_hey guys, i was wondering if anyone uses the ruckus player in windows, and then, if you were able to get it to wine over into ubuntu02:57
MasterShrekooh LinuxJuggalo you may have to pull the hard drive, or try a network install02:57
IntelligitimateIt keeps doing this retarded drag and drop thing.02:58
MasterShrekP_Kable|laptop, pipe the output to a file and print that :)02:58
LinuxJuggaloMasterShrek: yeah thats why i am asking, and uhhh no LAN either =\02:58
jimcooncatcyber_brain_mfkg: see http://www.david-web.co.uk/blog/?p=181 I think it has your answer.02:58
P_Kable|laptopMasterShrek=>  so no way to print directly from termninal ?02:58
youknowmeWisteso, problem with that?02:59
youknowmeHow would I cd into a network folder? The folder is "smb://joe-desktop/dvdripdata"02:59
LinuxJuggaloMasterShrek: libretto's are ancient mini computers02:59
MasterShrekP_Kable|laptop, i dont know, i doubt it though02:59
MasterShrekLinuxJuggalo, youll probably have to pull the drive then and install it on a different machine then replace the drive02:59
LinuxJuggaloah poo02:59
MasterShrekLinuxJuggalo, how else would you do it if it doesnt have any inputs?03:00
dellphthe ubuntu website is now change!!!03:00
dellphgutsy here we come!!!03:00
dellphlets party!!! :)03:00
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Nicarkyeaaah!!!03:01
* MasterShrek is waiting for kubuntu do dload any images...03:01
Ianosweet03:01
LinuxJuggalowooooooooooooo03:01
ebirtaiddownload page still lists 7.04 for me03:02
jaredHow can I reset my xorg.conf file so it is the original version?03:02
Stwangehow do I clear any items in bash history matching a regular expression?03:02
extrakickso 2day is the offical day03:02
extrakickwohooo03:02
ebirtaidjared:  sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg03:02
dellphyes its today03:02
jaredthanks03:02
Nicarksee the webpage of ubuntu03:02
extrakickgonna get that live iso to see what that baby is like to use03:03
extrakickhhha03:03
eegohay alguien de mexico?03:03
bulmerStwange can you edit your history?03:03
MasterShrekextrakick, the install is a live environment03:03
tonyyarusso!es | eego03:03
ubotueego: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.03:03
youknowmeMy update manager no have 7.10 yet :(03:03
CreedAny of the mirrors have 7.10 yet?03:03
Stwangebulmer, I'm not sure, I know it can be cleared, but there are some useful commands in there I was given which I don't want to lose03:03
youknowmeHow would I cd into a network folder? The folder is "smb://joe-desktop/dvdripdata"03:04
ScottASNo.03:04
Stwangemaybe I could back it up, and then remove certain lines? I just have typed my password in a couple of times and don't want it there03:04
ScottASThe Web site's been updated though.03:04
MasterShrekyouknowme, you need to mount it first03:04
riotkittieyes. it's just a txt file03:04
LordLimecatis there some reason ubuntu.com is being overloaded? Was gutsy released?03:04
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bulmerStwange: you can always pipe a copy to a file03:04
riotkittiealthough if you really value those commands, perhaps you should store them elsewhere. :P03:04
Viper007LordLimecat: looks like they updated the main page ... though it's not "officially" out yet03:05
youknowmeMastershreck, to be honest I don't know how.03:05
extrakickmastershrek, for some reason ubuntu installed properly only when i installed in text mode03:05
Stwangeriotkittie, where is it stored? save me grepping my whole drive for it :)03:05
ScottASI have a problem and would appreciate some help if possible.03:05
riotkittieStwange: ~/.bash_history ;)03:05
LordLimecati see, alright....just wanted to make sure they didnt pull a fast one and get caught by a slashdot/fark/digg effect :D03:05
Pici!away > Tronyx|AFK (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)03:05
MasterShrekyouknowme, mount -t smbfs \\server/share /mount/point03:05
bmomjianIf I was running 7.10 beta and updating regularly am I running 7.10 final now?03:05
dgawhen i run compiz --replace, my desktop stays the same but the tops of all of my windows are gone. anyone know what the problem is?03:06
jared!xvncserver03:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xvncserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:06
Stwangeriotkittie, sorry that was obvious :)03:06
extrakickubuntu site still sys 7.1003:06
extrakickhahaha03:06
Picibmomjian: yes03:06
Baxanybody know if MMOs require static IP addresses?03:06
extrakicki mean 7.0403:06
bmomjianPici, thanks03:06
Paddy_EIREBax, doubt it03:06
Baxdamn!03:06
Oli``Bax: course not03:06
Baxreally?03:06
Paddy_EIREBax, how is that bad??03:07
Baxwait, you mean you can still run them if your IP is not static?03:07
Paddy_EIREwhy not03:07
Stwangeok, how can I copy everything from ~/.bash_history to ~/.bash_backup that doesn't match *mypassword*?03:07
youknowmeMastershreck, in this case the mount point would be: /home/joe/Desktop/dvdripdata?03:07
Oli``Bax: Run them? As in host them?03:07
Baxno, just connect and play on them03:07
Oli``Bax: Even then the answer would be yes03:07
Ryuhoweird.. gedit froze03:08
Ryuhothings are running pretty funky03:08
Oli``Bax: Yes. Why would you imagine a dynamic IP would cause problems?03:08
LordLimecatrelease candidates have been taken down o.0 http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/03:08
P_Kable|laptopRyuho=>  nano03:08
ScottASI upgraded openSUSE 10.2 x86-64 to openSUSE 10.3 x86-64 using my custom partition setup and I now can't boot into Ubuntu 7.04 x86. I receive an error message; 'GRUB Error 23 : Cannot parse UUID.' I've researched the error message but the explanations I've found haven't been helpful.03:08
Baxwell I've installed vendetta and regnum online03:08
RyuhoP_Kable|laptop fine03:08
Baxon regnum I can run the game for a minute till I get kicked from the server03:08
Dankchildhey guys im new to ubuntu, but im slowly but surely getting it, but the only thing is, i have 45 gigs of music, and a good percentage of it is in mp4 or aac is there any codec i can download to work with banshee or whats the best option?03:08
ScottASI know it may be a problem with either Operating System, I'm asking on two Channels simultaneously to find out.03:08
Baxand on vendetta I can't connect03:09
Baxwhat could possibly be the problem?03:09
anandanbuIs there any offline dictionary applications for Ubuntu 7.1003:09
anandanbuIs there any offline dictionary applications for Ubuntu 7.1003:09
riotkittieScottAS: have you tried editting the kernel line, so it points at /dev/hd[sd]whatever instead03:09
ScottASI haven't.03:09
ScottASI don't know how to do it.03:10
youknowmeMastershreck, could you please give me that mount command again. I closed my tab and lost it.03:10
ELyptiCuserinfo03:10
MasterShrekDankchild, try installing a bunch of gstreamer packages03:10
riotkittieDarkHack: open synaptic, search for gstreamer... i'm not sure which plugins you need but i'd go for ugly ugly-multiverse and bad03:10
yrlnry_Is there a batch-mode tool for converting Microsoft Word files to some other format?03:11
MasterShrekyouknowme, sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=<user>,password=<pass> //server/folder /mount/point03:11
Ryuhowow i have no idea how to read this xorg.log03:11
Xorlevyrlnry_: You can use abiword from the command line03:11
yrlnry_Xorlev: thanks.03:11
MasterShrekyouknowme, you can omit the username and password thing if you can log in anonymously03:11
Dankchildthanks ill try that03:11
Baxdoes just a bad Internet connection keep getting you kicked off of an MMO?03:11
noodles12i type in "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys key s:password"   and i ge tthe error "SET failed on device wlan0; invalid argument" what does tha tmean?03:11
RyuhoMy tablet PC has a problem during login, my cursor moves to the bottom right and I can't click anything, can anyone help me03:11
Ryuhoand it's only during the login03:11
xblackfireno final iso on the mirrors yet  only rc versions03:12
extrakickby the wy is there anyway to access plaltlk room sin linux03:12
cyber_brain_mfkgcan anyone tell me in what repositories can i find linux-headers???03:12
youknowmeMastershreck, I don't understand, also the command gave me this:03:13
youknowmemount: option requires an argument -- o03:13
youknowmePlus more, but I won't flood.03:13
cyber_brain_mfkg(main,universe...????)03:13
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MasterShrekcyber_brain_mfkg, they should be in main03:13
MasterShrek!headers03:13
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages03:13
extrakickok im off now everyone take care03:13
extrakickhopefully when i wake up in a few hours 7.10 will be availabel for download, hahaha03:13
extrakickadios amigos03:14
matookeanyone know of a free Zimbra like application?03:14
Stwangesorry to repeat, but I'm trying google and I must be looking in the wrong places, how do I write each line from one text file into another, as long as the particular line doesn't match a certain regex?03:14
MasterShrekmatooke, that depends on what zimbra is03:14
cyber_brain_mfkgMasterShrek, can u tell me exact name of file???that file is kernel source right????03:14
gvsa123i need help with my webcam please...03:14
neosixhello03:14
roversonhi03:14
MasterShrekcyber_brain_mfkg, look at ubotu's explaination, it says right there03:15
matookeMasterShrek: Zimbra is a free groupware-ajax application03:15
MasterShrekevolution i think does groupware matooke03:15
riotkittieoh the suspense.03:15
MasterShrekbut i dunno for sure03:15
MasterShreki hear ya riotkittie =P03:15
MasterShreki wonder how long afterwards until a kubuntu iso will be out03:15
ScottASI'm positively moist.03:15
ebirtaidheh03:16
ELyptiCIt's got to be close now!!03:16
gvsa123hello... i need help trying to get my creative webcam to work03:16
ScottAShttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour03:16
gheehey guys i've got sound issues. is there a specific channel for them?03:17
sorbixghee03:17
ScottASWhat a fantastic error message.03:17
sorbixi just fixed my sound issues, it was really easy03:17
Pici!webcam > gvsa123 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)03:17
neosixI installed cvccedega. But on start: ERROR: wineserver exiting unexpectantly! Can anybody help me?03:17
gheesorbix that's great news!03:17
sorbixghee, lemme link you03:17
sorbixghee, thats for gutsy right03:17
chuy_maxI have a touch screen monitor that uses usbhid driver, everytime I connect it I get different handlers (event?, where ? is a number from 0 to 6), is there a way to set an event that doesn't change? (using linux kernel 2.6.20 from ubuntu)03:17
gheesorbix, actually on this computer i'm still on feisty03:18
sorbixoh, then maybe not03:18
sorbixhah, sorry ill send you a link anyways, but i think this is just for gutsy03:18
ScottASDoes Ubuntu Linux reference itself via UUID or /dev/h(s)da?03:18
sorbixhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53707003:18
tonyyarussoScottAS: UUID, although both can work.03:18
ELyptiCScottAS: both can work03:19
rawakeis there any software that can monitor my mdadm raids and if there is an error then run a command?03:19
gheesorbix, well, i'll be upgrading soon, thanks much03:19
jarrod_how can i look at my mounted file directory names? sb1 sb2 etc?03:19
sorbixyea np03:19
neosixERROR: wineserver exiting unexpectantly!  Please help?03:19
WorkingOnWisehow do i get permission to write to my externat hdd?03:19
ELyptiCrawake: i'm interested too03:19
Dankchildwhen the new version of ubuntu comes out will i be able to just update? or will i have to completely reinstall?03:19
ScottASOK. I'm liasing via another Channel just now in order to find out why I can't boot my Ubuntu Linux 7.04 installation after upgrading another Operating System via GRUB.03:19
ELyptiCDankchild: either can work.  Some argue that a clean install is better though.03:19
cr00_P5_anyone know how i can easily forward a port for torrents on ubuntu running under vmware?03:19
Dankchildk, will most of the programs still be compatable?03:20
MasterShrekDankchild, yes03:20
ianm_I've had problems with the microphone on fiesty and gutsy.  it works on boot but not after a suspend/resume.  is there a brute force way to reset the driver?03:20
ELyptiCI think the major ones will be.  Do you run a lot of custom stuff?03:20
MasterShrekianm_, sudo rmmod <driver>  then sudo modprobe <driver>03:21
Oli``cr00_P5_: urgh why would you want to?! but anyway... choose the option that sounds more like dhcp than NAT for the networking setup in VMWare03:21
Dankchildno not really, im just asking because yesterday was my first day with linux and im slowly but surely getting it.03:21
ianm_MasterShrek: would it be snd_intel8x0 ?03:21
soccer_hawk10hey all.  i have two questions.  1) why can't i get the screen resolution i am after.  2) why do pidgin-guifications no longer work after the upgrade to 7.1003:21
MasterShrekianm_, yep03:21
XiXaQAWTY?03:21
bluemechHi, i am trying to install ubuntu to a 2gb jump drive. Got confused with the documentation. could anyone tell me what to partition it to..03:21
rawakeELyptiC: do you have /etc/init.d/mdadmd?03:21
eyu100I can't upgrade ubuntu for some reason - there is a bad key/checksum or something like that03:22
WorkingOnWisehow do i get rw permission on my external hdd?03:22
rawakeeyu100: re-download it then03:22
ianm_MasterShrek: predictable, says it's in use.  do I have to kill all the related ones first?03:22
ScottASELyptiC: I upgraded openSUSE 10.2 x86-64 to openSUSE 10.3 x86-64 using my custom partition setup and I now can't boot into Ubuntu 7.04 x86. I receive an error message; 'GRUB Error 23 : Cannot parse UUID.' I've researched the error message but the explanations I've found haven't been helpful.03:22
underdog5004bluemech, it'll probably be /dev/sdax, where x is a number...do sudo fdisk -l  when the stick is mount to get the number03:22
deaderthanyouI forgot, was the last ubuntu released at midnight on the target date?03:23
MasterShrekianm_, maybe, can you forcibly remove it? rmmod -f ?03:23
underdog5004bluemech, whoops, more like sdyx, y will be variable03:23
bluemechunderdog5004, i did that. I could see /hda/sdb103:23
ianm_MasterShrek: ERROR: Removing 'snd_intel8x0': Resource temporarily unavailable03:23
underdog5004bluemech, is the stick mounted?03:23
eyu100bad header line...03:23
aroonihelp folks!  ubuntu 7.04 was tyring to start up and i got th elines:  /fcsk.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=29...; fsck died with exit status 8; File system check failed;  A log is being saved in /var/log/fsck/checkfs if the locatoin is wriable.  Please repair the file system manually03:23
arooniwhat should i dO?03:23
bluemechunderdog5004, no its unmounted03:23
bluemechas specified in the doc03:23
ELyptiCScottAS: Not that I can find03:23
MasterShrekianm_, no idea then, you prolly gotta restart your xserver03:23
dipuhi i have upgraded to ubunti 7.10 beta..03:23
bluemechunderdog5004, but when partitioning, do i create one partition of fat32 and the other of ext03:23
dipufor some reason i dont see the tray icons03:24
underdog5004bluemech, only if you want to share the usb stick with windows machines03:24
ELyptiCScottAS: I found I had to use the /dev/ syntax for my RAID1 array or else Grub couldn't find it.03:24
mouais 7.10 out somewhere ?03:24
Optimus56will ubuntu be released midnight???03:24
bluemechunderdog5004, no thats not necessary03:24
MasterShrekmoua, not as an iso03:24
Oli``Wow I just got 5 different errors on ubuntu.com for 5 requests on the same URL... Server's going into meltdown, I think03:24
MasterShrekOptimus56, probably not03:24
ScottASI'm using a non-RAID configuration.03:24
bluemechunderdog5004, i just want to install it onto the usb03:24
Optimus56damn.... i was hoping to stay up... its more exciting :D03:25
ELyptiCScotAS: Hm... not sure then03:25
underdog5004bluemech, in that case, only one partition for /, or 2, one for / and one for /home03:25
mouaok thx MasterShrek03:25
underdog5004don't want to get too complicated, ha ha03:25
dipui don't see the system tray icons !!!! any help ???03:25
underdog5004!attitude | dipu03:25
ubotudipu: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:25
Optimus56just a question tho, if i upgrade from feisty to the new version, and i already have compiz installed, will i lose anything?03:26
soccer_hawk10can someone help me get the screen resolution i'm looking for in ubuntu 7.10?03:26
phixhey03:26
soccer_hawk10Optimus5603:26
bluemechunderdog5004, yeah i know ;)... but then can i partition it using the installer03:26
soccer_hawk10no03:26
soccer_hawk10i just did it03:26
phixI would like to use thunderbird without is segfaulting, how do I do this? :)03:26
eyu100hmm... it says no upgrades are available -.-03:26
underdog5004!worksforme03:26
phixis = it03:26
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/03:26
underdog5004bluemech, yep, should be able to...03:26
Optimus56soccer_hawk: you have the release version already or rc1?03:26
dipuubotu .. sorry .. i m using it for the first time03:26
phixok so what do I do?03:26
ianm_MasterShrek: is there any way to see WHAT is using a module?  it's listed as:   snd_intel8x0           33564  503:26
bluemechunderdog5004, thanx a lot... let me try it once... with the installer first03:27
MasterShrekdipu, you dont have to apologize to a bot =)03:27
underdog5004dipu, did you do anything to remove the bar/icons?03:27
soccer_hawk10there will be no difference between them, but it's rc1 i believe03:27
phixI am running x86 64 bit version of ubuntu03:27
ScottAS;03:27
underdog5004bluemech, sounds good03:27
underdog5004good luck!03:27
MasterShrekianm_, probably but i wouldnt know how03:27
soccer_hawk10can anyone help me with my screen resolution issues?03:27
bluemechunderdog5004, thanx03:27
phixthunderbird segfaults when attempting to connect my IMAP server03:27
XiXaQawty?03:27
dipui did .. now i want to get them back...03:27
phixany ideas?03:27
Optimus56k03:27
MasterShreksoccer_hawk10, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:27
jarrod_how would one go about formatting a drive in bash?03:28
youknowmeI'm trying to mount a network share with:03:28
youknowmesmbmount //joe-desktop/dvdripdata /home/tom/Desktop/dvdripdata -o username=tom,password=MyPassword03:28
youknowmeBut it keeps telling me:03:28
youknowmeCould not resolve mount point /home/tom/Desktop/dvdripdata03:28
youknowmeHelp?03:28
soccer_hawk10mastershrek: on 7.10?03:28
yrlnry_Xorlev: abiword worked flawelessly.  Thanks.03:28
dipuspecially .. when i launch skype or amarok .. i want to see the icon on sytem tray03:28
Piciyouknowme: does that folder exist?03:28
troubledianm_: lsmod | grep snd_intel8x003:28
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Xorlevyrlnry_: np03:28
dipueven when i close .. skype window  the icon should be there on the tray03:28
shiwahello guys, i have a strange problem, when i "sudo apt-get" i dont have internet connection, somebody knows about it?03:28
MasterShreksoccer_hawk10, on any version03:28
localgod12any idea where firefox is hiding the bookmarks file?03:29
dipuit used to be there .. but not anymore03:29
aroonican anyone help?03:29
youknowmePici, yes on the server03:29
varun0when I look at certain webpage in firefox, certain characters (punctuation, I think) is replaced by a little box with numbers it in03:29
tonyyarussolocalgod12: ~/.mozilla/03:29
Piciyouknowme: /home/tom/Destkop/dvdripdata exists?03:29
localgod12i dont think sudo apt-get will work wo an internet connection03:29
localgod12thanks you03:29
localgod12tony: were would i find that?03:29
ianm_troubled: isn't that the opposite?  the things that snd_intel8x0 itself uses?03:30
shiwai mean when i use any package manager program, i cannot access internet to download packages03:30
youknowmePici, HA! I see my error. I really need to catch this kinda stuff before asking for help. My bad, thanks dude :)03:30
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troubledianm_: perhaps I misread you. you wanted to know what is using snd_intel8x0, no?03:30
aroonii've been told that i need to repair the file system manually because fcsk failed03:31
arooniany thoughts on how to do this?03:31
ianm_troubled: right, so I can rmmod it03:31
MasterShrekianm_, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base03:31
underdog5004arooni, man fsck03:31
Dankchildone more nooby question. sorry. but ive googled everywhere, and i didnt find anywhere how to integrate flash into firefox on a 64 bit system, any help?03:31
troubledianm_: grepping for it would help. but if your trying to rm it, try depmod -r perhaps?03:32
ritalinkidso, I'm confused. when exactly is 7.10 going to be available?  in couple of hours?03:32
troublederr modprobe :)03:32
BarryDegelingritalinkid: I think Thursday night03:32
joshwahow do you start linux in text mode?03:32
ianm_troubled: $ sudo modprobe -r snd_intel8x0   =>  FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use.03:32
BarryDegelingbut that's just my thought03:32
H264Dankchild: there is no 64bit flash plugin :-(03:32
ritalinkidthanks03:33
Flannelritalinkid: Sometime on the 18th (no specific timezone).  So no, not in a few hours.  Probably more like 24.03:33
atomic_ritalinkid: i'd say very soon.....the image on ubuntu.com has changed to give the indication that it's available....but everywhere else still lists 7.0403:33
kanjoomg03:33
kanjohow come the URL 7.10 is not up yet03:33
kanjoNO!!03:33
arooniunderdog5004, how can i unmount my filesystems to run it?  it doesnt run right when i just restart computer.  do i need to boot from cd :(?03:33
tonyyarussokanjo: #ubuntu-release-party please03:33
arooniunderdog5004, it fails with error 803:33
atlfalcons866does a journaling file system guarantee consistency?03:34
troubledianm_: perhaps try modprobe --show-depends snd_intel8x0?03:34
cache1How would one go about compiling x86 assembly? I have a test tomorrow and I need some practice ;)03:34
Dankchildhmm, so is there any workaround, like if i wanted to watch youtube or google videos?03:34
soccer_hawk10hey sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work03:34
MasterShrek!flash64 | Dankchild03:34
ubotuDankchild: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava03:34
nomaS!creative03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about creative - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:34
ScottASatlfalcons866: I think so.03:34
Flannelcache1: check out nasm03:34
troubledianm_: also, any chance your actually using your sound card with artsd or something (whatever ubuntu uses these days)03:35
dipuhi .. when i launch skype .. idont see the icon in the ssytem tray ..03:35
Dankchildthanks man.03:35
troubledianm_: lsof might help on your sound /dev/ file as well03:35
soccer_hawk10mastershrek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg was ineffective.  i have an intel integrated g 865 i believe, it runs the i810 drivers, but i cannot output to 1152x84603:36
aroonifolks, can someone help me run fsck?  i'm having problems because it fails with error code 8 (operational error) when It would otherwise automatically run on startup.  i dont want to run it when my file systems are mounted for fear of damage.  what should i do?03:37
underdog5004boot with a livecd, like dsl03:37
Avarielthe emacs installed in my school labs lacks a ton of things so i was wondering if there is a way to connect remotely to my computer from somewhere else ?03:38
underdog5004then fsck to your hearts delight...just be sure you know what you're doing!03:38
Avarielperhaps something to do with my ip...03:38
troubledarooni: i assume its your root fs?03:38
underdog5004Avariel, you have emacs installed in your _school_ ?03:38
cache1Flannel: nasm looks good, but i don't need to know how to do i/o yet, and i assume it's not terribly pretty. are there any simulators?03:38
aroonitroubled, yes03:38
soccer_hawk10mastershrek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg was ineffective. i have an intel integrated g 865 i believe, it runs the i810 drivers, but i cannot output to 1152x84603:38
Avarielwell, its just there...but i got it configured with ECB and other goodies...so id like to work remotely with my computer03:38
Avariellike, connect to MY COMPUTER03:38
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Avarielfrom elsewhere03:39
underdog5004Avariel, have openssh-server installed and running, portfoward port 22 on your router, get your ip from whatismyip.com, then when you're at school, type in ssh username@home-computer03:39
troubledarooni: boot a live cd or use an install cd that allows you to access the shell to run manual commands to fsck your fs03:39
arooniah ok03:39
underdog5004Avariel, might also want to look into !screen03:39
aroonitroubled, is this an important thing to do?  getting fsck to run?  or can i ignore it03:39
Avarielunderdog5004: !screen ?03:39
psycorpsewill 7.10 be available at MidNight or will it just show up sometime tomorrow?03:39
troubledarooni: if your fs has problems, yes, very03:39
underdog5004!screen | Avariel03:39
ubotuAvariel: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen03:39
goatzAny suggestion on how to force an update with update manager? audacious-plugins and audacious-plugins-extras are both tring to update one file, however UM won't let me just apply one of the two updates.03:40
MasterShreki dunno for sure then soccer_hawk10, that should have done it for you03:40
davemlinux1Track torrent for ubuntu 7.10 any one?03:40
Picidavemlinux1: its not out yet, see topic #ubuntu-release-party03:40
soccer_hawk10hmm.  could it be a problem with my monitor or is this more than likely a graphics card issue?03:40
tsukasawhat can i run to start a program RIGHT BEFORE the gnome login session startups kick in03:40
elementhey guys03:40
black_13is there a way to disable bootup messages03:40
elementI have a problem with USB03:40
aroonihow can i restart ubuntu from the command line03:40
JDStoneGutsy comes out tomorrow, right?03:40
elementUSB devices don't work unless I boot with them in the computer03:40
riotkittieJDStone: sometime on the 18th. somewhere.03:41
underdog5004black_13, in /boot/grub/menu.list, make sure you specify quiet in the kernel parameters03:41
nrdbarooni: 'sudo reboot'03:41
black_13i tried that03:41
rawakeis there a built in way of figuring out what arguments are passed to my bash script? for instance say if someone type ./myscript -abc and i want to get back those arguments as if they passed them as ./myscript -a -b -c... is something like that supported?03:41
JDStoneriotkittie: somewhere?  what do you mean?03:41
elementanyone know what it could be03:41
Davy_JonesJDStone: it will be released last week03:41
aroonitroubled, why am i getting return code 8 (operational error) when fsck runs on startup automatically duirng the boot process03:41
nrdbarooni_: 'sudo reboot'03:41
Picirawake: yes, I *think* $* holds all the arguments, but #bash would be able to answer you much better03:42
WorkingOnWisehow do i use my external hdd in linux? I cant write to it03:42
troubledarooni: perhaps man fsck. sorry, i dont know the meaning of that error03:42
riotkittieJDStone: neverrrrrmind.03:42
elementyou have to unmount it before it writes to it03:42
elementyou can't just unplug it03:42
elementyou have to unmount first03:42
jbinderHow do I mount my SD card in the SD card slot, it seems to be /dev/mmcblk003:43
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: you plug it in03:43
jbinderBut when I type mount /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/usbdisk it wants a filesystem.03:43
elementhe says it's not writing to it03:43
jbinderAnd I don't know what type of filesystem my SD card is.03:43
Nergarhello03:43
elementhi03:43
gnrfanhi everyone.. any hint on what's the truetype font for "linux for human beings" not ubuntu title which I have???03:43
zxguitarwho can help with my soundo card, here is the issue03:43
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: it automounts, and I can see it in Nautilus, but I cant write to it.03:43
zxguitarhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41013/03:43
markusyhello... i'm trying to get an ati x1600 pro 512mb agp working with linux.. i'm using 2.6.22-14 with the latest fglrx module (8.40.4) loaded.. the x server logs don't indicate a problem but when i starts the screen goes black... any ideas?03:44
element***I have a problem with my USB, it doesn't work unless I plug in the devices before I turn the computer on**03:44
troubledrawake: look at some existing bash scripts. its not automatic, but you can parse out stuff. what your talking about is typically called getopts in perl, #bash would probably recognize what you mean by that03:44
DanaGOh, something odd with some removable drives:03:44
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: what file system is it?03:44
DanaGThey may be formatted, but not partitioned.03:44
novacheckdoes anyone know how many hours until gutsy release03:44
kiru_#03:44
kiru_Click the Check button to check for new updates.03:44
kiru_# A message will appear informing you of the availability of the new release.03:44
jbinderLike 703:44
Voodoo_Johnisnt it alread released?03:44
kiru_this is not shown03:44
CITguynovacheck: less than 2403:44
youknowmeI got the local mount point fixed, and the login problem fixed. But now it says that a network share that I know exists doesn't. Help?03:44
youknowmehttp://pastebin.com/m3899b36503:44
kiru_what should i do?03:44
WorkingOnWisewas ntfs. ran gksudo gparted and deleted it, created an ext2 partition.03:44
Flannelcache1: apparently 'as' is a gcc ASM compiler.  Which you can debug with gdb.  The internet is probably the best place to get tutorials on how to debug and stuff, here's one: http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~bjorn/CS200/linux_tutorial/03:44
Davy_Jonesnovacheck: it will be released last week03:44
WorkingOnWiseproblem was with ntfa too03:45
XiXaQnovacheck, I'd guess about 12-15 UTC, but it's only a vague guess.03:45
WorkingOnWisentfa=ntfs03:45
jbinderI think 5AM EST03:45
novacheckalright03:45
Voodoo_Johnisnt it already out?03:45
FlannelGuys, take Gutsy stuff to #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-release-party, thanks.03:45
PiciVoodoo_John: no.03:45
novacheckthe beta is out03:45
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: can you use the command line to unmount it?03:45
element***I have a problem with my USB, it doesn't work unless I plug in the devices before I turn the computer on**03:45
zxguitarwho can help with my soundo card, here is the issue03:46
zxguitarhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41013/03:46
Voodoo_Johnwtf :/ i was like why am i not seeing it in update manager rofl03:46
ianm_troubled: esd is using /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p but killing it doesn't let me remove the module either03:46
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: lemme check03:46
CITguyno, the RC WAS out but we are ALL waiting on the official release of 7.1003:46
gusto5hello everyone03:46
element***I have a problem with my USB, it doesn't work unless I plug in the devices before I turn the computer on***03:46
elementhi gusto03:46
jetolehey guys, does anyone know what time this room will change it's letter of the day to "H"?03:46
Stwangehow do I invert this regex: grep ".*someword.*" > file2 (ie, that prints every line that contains somework, I want the ones that don't03:46
Stwange)03:46
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: type 'mount'.. see which one is it and then 'umount /dev/device'03:46
CITguyjetole: ???03:46
gusto5im trying to go from fiesty to gibbon using the simple update manager process, but it doesnt do anything for me03:47
* dapatrick sighs03:47
jetolewhen gutsy will no longer be a RC?03:47
elementanyone know how to solve my problem?03:47
elementanyone know how to solve my problem?03:47
arooni  whats the fastest way to dload 7.04 live cd?  i'm gettin 40 kb/s from umich mirror03:47
element***I have a problem with my USB, it doesn't work unless I plug in the devices before I turn the computer on***03:47
dapatrickTracker is really giving me the blues.03:47
PiciFlannel: +1 forwards here fyi03:47
MasterShrek!codecs03:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:47
FlannelStwange: grep with -v03:47
Skudhey, is there anyone here from canonical? i'd really like to talk to someone in community management there, if someone could hook me up with the appropriate names/email addresses.03:47
jetoleoh shit, I am not in +103:47
zxguitarwho can help with my sound card, here is the issue03:47
zxguitarhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41013/03:47
troubledianm_: not familiar with ubuntu, but there may be an init.d script to start/stop the sound system completly instead of just killing. is there a specific reason you need to remove the module? cause you can always blacklist it to prevent it from loading in the first place.03:47
noway-If my windows is /dev/sda2 what do I set it for grub as?  hd0,1 ?03:47
IdleOnegusto5: wait till morning and the update manager will upgrade you to 7.1003:47
gusto5OHHH lol its not out, MY appologies!03:48
jetoleanyways, does anyone one know when gutsy will be released? I mean a time of day when?03:48
riotkittiejetole: no.03:48
jetolehuh03:48
caoyonghi03:48
ianm_troubled: the goal is to reset the sound hardware, since the microphone is broken after APM suspend03:48
element***I have a problem with my USB, it doesn't work unless I plug in the devices before I turn the computer on***03:48
jetoleI tried out a RC on sat on my laptop03:48
elementanyone know how to fix it?03:48
caoyong大家好呀,有没有中国内地的03:48
jetoleand I didn't see the encrypt your / partition03:48
jetoleor encrypt any partition03:48
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WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: as me, I can't umount it. As sudo, I can03:48
jetoleI found it in debian 4 without having to look03:48
troubledianm_: could always try force remove the module for modprobe perhaps. man modprobe03:48
axjvDoes anyone know how to sort numbers in openoffice?03:48
Pici!zh | caoyong03:49
ubotucaoyong: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk03:49
caoyong我想交流一下ubuntu03:49
axjvI have a list of items for a survey, but the results are all jumbled up03:49
troubledaxjv: click the column and click the sort button?03:49
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thevAnyone have software recommendations for 2d animation?03:49
caoyongThank you!03:49
youknowmeI got the local mount point fixed, and the login problem fixed. But now it says that a network share that I know exists doesn't. Help? http://pastebin.com/m3899b36503:49
noway-If Windows is on the 2nd partition of my drive, what should I have it set in grub as? hd0,1 ?03:49
nick_Okay, I have the oddest issue I've ever heard of.  I have a friend who administers the U of M's chem department linux servers and he doesn't understand why this is happening03:49
elementwow i guess i just have to wait for gsty and see if it fixes it03:49
jetoleWorkingOnWise: typically only the person that mounts a volume can unmount and I beleive through suid, gnome does it as root03:49
zxguitarwho can help with my sound card, here is the issue03:49
zxguitarhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41013/03:49
CITguy*** Just a note to those of you just joining us. We do NOT know the exact time that Gutsy will be available. All we know is that it will be available within the next 24 hours or so. ***03:49
axjvtroubled: The column in...03:49
arooniwhat do i need to sudo apt-get install to get boost libraries ?  (trying to install deluge)03:49
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: ok, unmount it with sudo03:49
Voodoo_Johnthev, gimp is probably the easiest03:49
jetoleand if you are not root there isn't a lot you can mount03:49
axjvtroubled: I'm using OO Writer03:49
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ianm_troubled: I've tried forcing, but still says it's in use03:49
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: unmounted03:49
StwangeFlannel, thanks mate it worked03:50
element***I have a problem with my USB, it doesn't work unless I plug in the devices before I turn the computer on***03:50
elementanyone know how to fix it?03:50
thevVoodoo_John - you mean using GAP?03:50
Flannel!repeat | element03:50
ubotuelement: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience03:50
Voodoo_Johnthev,  gimp03:50
troubledianm_: well, lsmod | grep <module> should list everything that may be using it. other than that, not sure. sorry.03:50
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: ok now do 'sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/device /media/mountpoint'03:50
CITguyelement: is your usb device set up in /etc/fstab to automount?03:50
dapatrickIs #ubuntu+1 redirecting to #ubuntu03:50
dapatrick?03:50
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: tell me if you're able to write after this03:50
Picidapatrick: yes03:50
jetoleubotu: good girl03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about good girl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:50
DanaG/https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors03:50
dapatrickPici: ah, thanks.03:50
thevGAP = Gimp Animation Package.  Or did you mean just regular gimp03:50
jetolehmmm, I must have been thinking about the bot from #apache then03:51
troubledaxjv: so its just a bunch of text that you want sorted thats in a table?03:51
elementI'm sort of new so I don't know I guess I need to set my iPod, USB drive, wireless mouse, and USB headphones up to automount?03:51
axjvtroubled: It's just like a normal document, but the lines each have a different number03:51
axjvtroubled: I want to sort them alphabetically \03:51
thevI'm not sure how I would create the individual frames in Gimp, but I'll look at it03:51
axjvtroubled: The lines, that is.03:51
CITguyelement: which version of Ubuntu are you running?03:51
nick_So, I just got a new HDTV, and am using it as a second monitor, and I downloaded a bunch of nature documentaries in hi-def because I could.  For some reason it skips like a bastard using every program I can think of.  So I open it using kmplayer (my default video player) from the command line, and it works perfectly.  Then I try opening another file using the full name instead of key words and wild cards. skips like a bastard.  Try the same fi03:51
nick_le using wildcards instead of the full filename.  Works perfectly.  Why the fuck?03:51
elementfeisty 7.0403:51
Voodoo_Johnthev, regular gimp lol03:52
tonyyarusso!ohmy | nick_03:52
ubotunick_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.03:52
Voodoo_Johnlol !ohmy03:52
axjvtroubled: Sorry if this may be too specific03:52
thevVoodoo_John - how would I export frames/video?03:52
jetoleubotu: kids don't come to #ubuntu03:52
troubledaxjv: open a shell, nano -w /tmp/sortprep.txt, paste them there. save it and exit, then "sort /tmp/sortprep.txt > /tmp/sorted.txt" and copy paste that back03:52
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axjvO_O03:52
noodles12when trying to enter in my essid and key, i get this mesage" Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A)"03:52
Xorlevnick_: Try VLC03:52
youknowmeI got the local mount point fixed, and the login problem fixed. But now it says that a network share that I know exists doesn't. Help? http://pastebin.com/m3899b36503:53
riotkittiejetole: you've polled the population as to their ages?03:53
axjvThat's pretty cool.03:53
Voodoo_Johnthev, you never said anything technical but you can export by saving as a .gif03:53
nick_Tried VLC03:53
nick_still skips03:53
adanteis there a program i can use to monitor disk/i/o activity on my box? (a top for hdd's)03:53
nick_not to mention doesn't work in fullscreen properly03:53
CITguyelement: I'm sorry, I don't know much about how the USB system works. :(03:53
thevVoodoo_John - I don't think that would work... I would probably have hundreds of frames03:53
axjvtroubled: Thanks, I didn't know that nano could do that.03:53
jetoleriotkittie: the task force assigned to that task is has their action item at 50% completion03:53
Voodoo_Johnalso thev try cinelerra03:53
youknowmeadante, sysem monitor in the toolbar?03:53
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: so?03:53
nick_and, like I said, kmplayer works perfectly from the command line using wildcards03:53
elementguess I have to wait and see if gutsy fixes it then03:53
elementit is a royal pain in the arse though03:54
thevVoodoo_John - I will look at Cinelerra again... the interface is so horrendous though03:54
Evanlecadante, i hear conky is pretty configurable03:54
nick_Does the scheduler afford higher priority to programs from the command line than from gdm?03:54
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Evanlecnick_, can u give us an example of your wildcard command03:54
youknowmeI got the local mount point fixed, and the login problem fixed. But now it says that a network share that I know exists doesn't. Help? http://pastebin.com/m3899b36503:54
troubledaxjv: well, its not nano thats doing it, its just what your using to save it as a text document. writer could save it all as a text doc too, but you would need to edit out all the garbage. vim would be a better choice though on a txt file with existing stuff. "v" to highlight the text, then ":!sort" to sort it03:54
nick_kmplayer *Earth*Deep*03:55
mapezHey, is there a Gutsy release canidate channel?03:55
Voodoo_Johnthev, yes, LIVES is a bit.. better though03:55
jetoleriotkittie: furthermore I didn't come into #irc till I was 13 and I swore like fucking sailor at that age but as an adult I know better then to use improper words03:55
Voodoo_Johnmapez, #ubuntu-release-party03:55
markusyhello... i'm trying to get an ati x1600 pro 512mb agp working with linux.. i'm using 2.6.22-14 with the latest fglrx module (8.40.4) loaded.. everything should be working fine looking at the xorg log (no errors and everything appears to load fine) but when X starts the screen goes black... any ideas?03:55
nick_as opposed to kmplayer '/home/nick/Desktop/raid/amule/incoming/Planet.Earth.EP11.Ocean.Deep.2006.720p.HDDVD.x264-ESiR.mkv'03:55
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mapezFor support I mean.03:55
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: it says I have to specify a filesystem type.03:56
youknowmeSomeone help Me? http://pastebin.com/m3899b36503:56
axjvtroubled: Oh, I didn't read your whole thing03:56
nick_Pretty simple commands, so I'd imagine there'd be a pretty simple explanation, but I can't think of one03:56
WorkingOnWisels /dev/sd03:56
axjvtroubled: Terminal can do that?03:56
CITguymarkusy: take a look at your Xorg log file in /var/log, you may find some answers there03:56
WorkingOnWisewrong window. sorry03:56
axjvtroubled: Well, I have to remember that command.03:56
axjvtroubled: Thanks.03:56
Flannelmapez: Go ahead and ask here, as they've removed +1 for the time being.03:56
markusyCITguy, there isnt anything03:56
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necronekostaranyone know of a good resource on how to make a custom livecd ?03:56
markusyit all reports everything is loaded fine03:56
markusyno errors03:56
troubledaxjv: well, "sort" is just a command that sorts the input/filename. man sort :)03:56
nick_and I certainly can't think of a way around having to use the command line all the time03:56
markusythats why it's wierd.03:56
riotkittiejetole: then you should have no problems with refraining from using profanity, or protesting it with "children don't come into this channel".03:56
Flannelnecronekostar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization03:57
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: weird.. ok.. tell it to 'sudo mount -t ext2 -o uid=1000 /dev/device /media/mountpoint'03:57
Evanlecnick_, yea that is rather strange....did u try renaming the file to something simple like 'ep11.mkv' and playing it with absolute command ?03:57
dipuhi .. i tried to enable desktop effects . but it gives the error "desktop effects could not be enabled" .. and idea ??03:57
thevVoodoo_John - thanks03:57
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CITguymarkusy: are you trying to run the desktop effects?03:57
riotkittiedipu: which version of ubuntu?03:57
nick_I did03:57
Voodoo_Johnthev, np03:57
dipu7.1003:57
Dankchildhey guys when i try to run "sudo alien nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.2-1.x86_64.rpm" it gives me this error,03:57
DankchildWarning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package nspluginwrapper: postinst prerm03:57
DankchildWarning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.03:57
Dankchildnspluginwrapper_0.9.91.2-2_amd64.deb generated03:57
nick_same odd results03:57
Dankchildwhat should i do?03:57
axjvtroubled: But I was a little surprised there was an application designed to do specifically what I needed. That's Linux for ya. =)03:57
riotkittiedipu: tell me about your graphics card. is it ... an ati by any chance?03:57
ianm_troubled: ok removing everything using it might do03:57
markusyCITguy, no i can't run them with vesa03:57
necronekostarFlannel while i appreciate that - i wanna do more custom than that.03:57
markusywhich is the only video driver i can use now03:57
Voodoo_Johnthev, i wish there was better video editing programs for linux, i have every program for windows to do with vid editing, but thats for a private chat or another channel03:57
ianm_troubled: I'll try to unwind it all03:57
markusyfglrx won't work03:57
troubledianm_: usually works for me03:57
jetoleriotkittie: I am sorry, please accept my humble fscking appology ( <= not a swear word ;)03:58
Flannelnecronekostar: That's... fully customizable.03:58
necronekostari wanna start with a server install add compiz-fusion gnome panel and a couple apps and turn that into a live iso03:58
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ivanhoeanyone knows where i can get the torrent from gutsy03:58
EvanlecDankchild, you can't install RPM's on ubuntu, its not a redhat distro03:58
troubledaxjv: you havent played in the shell much have you ;)03:58
dipuroikittie ,sorry .. but can you tell me how to find which graphics card03:58
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thevVoodoo_John - I work at a film school, so I know all the commercial offerings :)03:58
ivanhoethe servers are down03:58
necronekostarFlannel lots o crapola that wont need to be in there and hard to track down....03:58
nick_You can install rpms with alien03:58
riotkittiedipu: open a terminal and type lspci03:58
markusyCITguy, i've also tried using the ubuntu fglrx restricted-modules03:58
jetolespeaking of fsck03:58
markusybut that doesn't work either03:58
markusysame problem03:58
axjvtroubled: Got Ubuntu 2 days ago, and all I've done is add lots of eye candy03:58
nick_dankchild, you can install rpms with alien03:58
markusymy xorg config is fine03:58
vbabiy-Laptopwhat time will the final be release of Gusty?03:58
Evanlecnick_, alien converts RPMs to .deb's which u then install...03:58
Voodoo_Johnthev, hm?03:58
Flannelnecronekostar: You might be better off starting with a different distro (one thats geared towards liveCDs)03:58
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dipuriotkittie .. lots of otput03:59
nick_You know what I mean03:59
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atomic_aawwee...the 7.10 image on the main page has changed back to the counter....i liked the pronunciation of the thing03:59
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riotkittiedipu: try lspci | grep VGA instead03:59
mapezI am running the Gutsy RC. When I try to enable the new Desktop effects it just says.. 'Desktop Effeccts' could not be enabled. I am running the nvidia restricted driver, and xinerma.03:59
jetoleI get errors when loading lvm because it uses 4kb chunks and e2fsck assumes it uses 1kb chuncks, anyone know the solution to this one?03:59
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WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: says wrong fs type. I just looked at gparted and it is ext203:59
CITguymarkusy: Let me get this straight. You've installed the fglrx modules but you are trying to run X with the vesa driver?03:59
necronekostarFlannel i just wanna turn a good install into a live cd03:59
Dankchildi'm doing it directly from ubuntus website, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava#nspluginwrapper03:59
markusyCITguy, no i'm trying to run x with the fglrx driver03:59
markusybut it gives me a black screen03:59
markusyvesa works03:59
troubledaxjv: :) most programmers use a shell or a terminal i think these days. either vim or emacs mostly. or the X versions of them. vim is my preference though. I dont do X myself (and debian here not ubuntu)03:59
thevVoodoo_John - I have access to OSX and Windows editing programs - I just use OSS to create art for political reasons03:59
dipuriotkittie .. this is what i get ..dipu@dipu-laptop:~$ lspci | grep VGA03:59
dipu00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)03:59
Voodoo_Johnthev,  :)03:59
CidanIs there a VMWare package for 7.10?03:59
CITguymarkusy: Ok, so are you wanting to have the fglrx driver running with the desktop effects?04:00
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: this is my command :  sudo mount -t ext2 -o uid=1000 /dev/sdb1 /media/USBDisk04:00
CidanI can't find it, :(04:00
Arenlormapez please open a terminal and sudo apt-get install xgl-xserver04:00
nick_markusy, good luck with that, I've never gotten fglrx to function properly04:00
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: the "-o uid=1000" option is what you need.. i don't know how to solve the wrong fs type problem.. happens to me and still don't know what to do with it04:00
PovAddictCidan: there isn't even an .iso for 7.10 yet dude04:00
nick_markusy, that's why I no longer buy ati04:00
markusyCITguy, i don't really care about desktop effects to be honest04:00
riotkittiedipu: i'm not familiar with intels, so i'm of no use here :|   sorry04:00
markusyi would like opengl to work04:00
vbabiy-Laptopwhat time will the final be release of Gusty?04:00
CidanUsing RC, PovAddict04:00
jetoledipu: what was your original question?04:00
LordC_w00t w00t04:00
CidanGet with the times, :P04:00
Picivbabiy-Laptop: when its done, see topic04:00
mapezArenlor, Can't find package. However it is a start. I think ic an take it from there thanks.04:00
markusyyea thanks nick_ :p04:00
jetoledipu: about the VGA?04:00
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Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: sorry04:00
axjvtroubled: Well, I've worked with a GUI my whole life, so it's a bit of a change. It took me a while to figure out simple things like compiling.04:00
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PovAddictCidan: well, I doubt somebody already did a VM with 7.10 RC preinstalled04:01
dipujetole, iam not able to enable desktop effects in 7.10 beta04:01
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troubledaxjv: welcome to the CLI ;)04:01
markusynick_, i haven't been able to find a fix anywhere04:01
markusynick_, do you have the same card?04:01
CITguymarkusy: My advise to you is to install the ATI graphics drivers manually (NOT from apt or synaptic) from the ATI website.04:01
caminomasterhello04:01
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: what does the -o uid=1000 mean?04:01
markusyCITguy, i have04:01
Arenlormapez my apologies it's xserver-xgl04:01
Heygab1What screenshot application comes with xbuntu?04:01
markusyi tried both04:01
markusysame outcome04:01
axjvtroubled: The missing lib files didn't really help me much either. I had to apt-get about 200 lib files yesterday.04:01
Cidanalso, fglrx + 3D effects04:01
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Cidanif you have fglrx installed04:01
Cidanall you have to do is04:01
Cidansudo apt-get install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager04:01
markusyi think it's a problem with this card04:01
Cidanin 7.1004:01
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Cidanthat's it.04:01
nick_markusy, I used to with my laptop, I ended up using the ati driver from the kernel04:01
CITguymarkusy: Ok, please walk me through the process you went through to install the driver?04:01
jetoledipu: lspci -n | grep '00:02.0'04:01
Cidanit will auto configure the rest for you04:01
Voodoo_Johnthev, my father is into filming and video editing, thats why i looked at cinerella for him and LIVES i have another but it doesnt show up in my program list, ill check terminal later04:01
Cidanno sessions to setup04:01
nick_markusy, desktop effects never worked04:02
Cidanjust log out, log back in04:02
troubledaxjv: hard disk space is cheap04:02
axjvtroubled: CLI is cold and mechanical *shudders*04:02
Voodoo_Johnthev, btw, which school ? college? university?04:02
caminomasterI have a trouble: i've forgot the password of my channel (ubuntu-es9, because x-chat logs in automatically04:02
caminomasterhow can I recover it??04:02
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: "-o" is for option " uid=1000 " tells the mount command to allow the uid (user who's ID is) 1000 (which is the first user) to use the partition freely04:02
frijoliehey all...how do I get my desktop to recognize my internal network card?04:02
jetoledipu, also desktop effects arn't valid on all hardware04:02
Picicaminomaster: ask in #freenode04:02
DMLouI'm having trouble with my wifi setup. It sees the wireless network I'm trying to connect to, but apparently it can't connect to the AP, get an IP address, etc.04:02
troubledaxjv: so is the GUI at the code level. just has prettier colors :)04:02
Cidanalso, PovAddict, I was asking if there was a package in a repos somewhere I have not seen.04:02
frijolieI'm getting no internet connectivity04:02
markusygenerated the deb packages from the .sh file from the ati website.. installed the debs compiled and installed the kernel module aticonfig --initial then restart04:02
axjvtroubled: It's warm and inviting, though =D04:02
youknowmeSomeone help Me? http://pastebin.com/m3899b36504:02
PovAddictCidan: oh I totally misunderstood your question, nvm04:02
jetoledipu: ubuntu claims it detects if your hardware is compatible but that probably isn't a 100% guarentee04:02
CidanDMLou: When it asks you for your passphrase, be sure you select the right type from the drop down04:02
dipujetole .. this is what i get 00:02.0 0300: 8086:27a2 (rev 03)04:03
frijolieand network-manager won't let me choose a wired network04:03
Evanlecanyone here using freeNX ?04:03
PovAddictcaminomaster: ask in #freenode04:03
markusyi've also added the old fglrx module to the restricted modules disable list04:03
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: ok/ Thanks. I'll mess with it and see where I get.04:03
caminomasterthank you, Pici04:03
CidanDMLou: Make SURE you're using hex 64 bit for a 10 digit pass, etc.04:03
jetoledipu: sit tight for a min while I look something up04:03
markusybut that really isn't relevant04:03
markusythe kernel module is loaded fine04:03
* PMantis figured there'd be lots of activity in here tonight. :)04:03
diputhanks jetole .. i appreciate your help04:03
DMLouCidan: I'm double-checking my router config04:03
PovAddictthis is crowded...04:03
abcde_Is Gutsy going to be released at any specific time, or just sometime tomorow?04:03
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: good luck.. probably ask again what to do when mount gives the "wrong fs type"04:03
PovAddictabcde_: see topic04:04
mapezArenlor. It works! Thanks.04:04
PovAddictwhen it's done04:04
markusyi've made a post on the forums04:04
markusyhope someone has found a solution :)04:04
HipotermiAl04:04
jetoledipu: I havn't even looked that card up yet and I doubt it will do graphics well04:04
CidanI just want VMWare so I can get some stuff installed, but I want to keep it all package managed, :/04:04
jetole8086 is the intel pci vendor ID04:04
Cidanisn't there a commercial apt source?04:04
abcde_PovAddict, sorry.  It went by faster than usual, I couldn't catch all of it.04:04
Cidanthat has VM?04:04
HipotermiAwww.ubuntu.com04:04
axjvabcde_: No official time yet, I've heard it's been delayed.04:04
cafuego!commercial04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:04
diputhanks jetole .. no probs ..04:04
cafuegoCidan: yes, there is04:04
PovAddictabcde_: hell yeah, this is really crowded04:04
DMLouCidan: okay, using 128bit WEP..  it's waiting for network key according to network manager04:05
abadtoothHey everyone, when will Ubuntu 7.10 be released EST timezone?04:05
CITguymarkusy: what was the make and model of the card?04:05
Evanlecaxjv, delayed? impossible!04:05
dipui am ok with no effects04:05
* troubled hugs cafuego for being a familiar face :)04:05
CidanWhat is the repo?04:05
cafuegoabadtooth: No.04:05
PovAddictabcde_: although you should see #freenode-newyears in december 31st04:05
dipui would have preferred .. but its ok04:05
markusyati x1600 pro 512mb agp04:05
abadtoothcafuego: ??04:05
Evanlec!wep | DMLou04:05
ubotuDMLou: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:05
nooobyis there a problem with ndiswrapper and wep?04:05
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cafuegotroubled: Bit of a jostle today, innit?04:05
abcde_abadtooth, I just did the same thing, the topic says not to ask.04:05
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troubled:)04:05
Cidancafuego: Do you know the repo addr?04:05
abadtoothabcde_:  oh04:05
CITguymarkusy: ok, gimme a sec to look something up04:05
axjvEvanlec: Well that's what I heard in ubuntu-release-party, don't know if they were BSing or not. Something about the server cutting off the upload or something. I personally think it's a lie.04:05
cafuegoabadtooth: it will be released when it's ready.04:05
jetoledipu: I am still looking up data but have a peek @ => http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/iii/?i=808627a204:05
jpastoreis it possible to install gutsy packages in feisty? I want to install network manager 0.6.5 to fix a bug I'm dealing with in 0.6.404:05
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f0rtunewhats a good program to convert video files, from like avi to mp4?04:06
EatsCreamedCornf0rtune mencoder04:06
axjvjpastore: You can compile network manager in feisty04:06
cheeseboyhi04:06
abcde_abadtooth, I'm in the same boat, I'm not sure if I'm going to wait the extra hour until midnight04:06
PMantisjpastore: Might be a backport soon.. but don't take my work for it.04:06
PovAddictword*04:06
PovAddict:P04:06
cheeseboyhas anyone else had trouble with firefox?04:06
Arenlor32 hours left for Gutsy to be released04:06
abadtoothabcde_:  I'm staying up till it is released :P04:06
cheeseboyits very slow04:06
zylstra555I need to disable sudo so I can use a web installer (SMF Forum) without needing the SUDO command... how do I do this?04:06
Arenlorcheeseboy no, nor have I heard of that04:06
jpastorePMantis, well gutsy is going to be released real soon04:06
EatsCreamedCorncheeseboy, have you tried swiftweasel?04:07
jpastoreaxjv, I tried and failed...04:07
EvanlecUbuntu has a time-based release schedule which is quite nice for us, but a few hours late...not so bad04:07
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necronekostarmmmmmmmm04:07
robArenlor, we usually find it is at midday utc, so only 9 hours or so to go hopefully04:07
PMantisjpastore: RIght, and I figure after release, they'll backport some packages that fix bugs.04:07
abadtoothWhat is the best way to donate to Ubuntu?04:07
cheeseboyArenlor firefox takes 2 minutes to opem04:07
axjvjpastore: You ran the 'compile' file?04:07
cheeseboyi think thats a long time04:07
jdongwe hit 1337 in ubuntu again04:07
jdong:)04:08
abcde_Is there going to be a torrent for Gutsy?  I'm looking for the one for Feisty, and I can't find it.04:08
KI4IKLHow can I unzip a theme tgz file into the theme folder?...what is thec ommand and the folder to put it in?04:08
th3blackd3vil_I think I found a bug04:08
kyled185w00T!04:08
jdongabcde_: not out yet, wait :)04:08
jpastorelet me go re downlaod....it was last week and I don't remember what I did exactly...I got it from the gnome project page04:08
jdongaww we passed it04:08
th3blackd3vil_Where do I report bugs?04:08
robonce the download page is updated, you should find all the info you need to get it04:08
axjvjpastore: I just got it, you need to compile it using sudo04:08
jpastoreaxjv, I think I did but I'll try again04:08
Arenlorcheeseboy are you on Gutsy and if so are you using the Firefox that came with it or one you compiled on your own, also have you tried disabling your addons and homepages then seeing how fast it is?04:09
CITguymarkusy: ok, does the file /usr/shar/fglrx exist?04:09
abcde_jdong, I was just curious, since I thought there'd be a Feisty torrent, and since there isn't I wasn't sure what that said about the Gutsy one.  There should be an RSS feed or something, so I am sure I get it as soon as it's out, even if I'm not at my PC.04:09
CITguy/usr/share/fglrx04:09
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cheeseboyArenlor, gust apt version04:09
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black_13so how do i quiet the boot process?04:10
abadtoothDoes anyone know a good way to donate to Ubuntu while being in the USA? I would rather just use paypal to donate some $$, but don't want to buy something from over seas just to pay a huge fee for shipping..04:10
Arenlorcheeseboy please disable all addons and set your homepage to open a blank page and try to open it again04:10
Evanlecabadtooth, u should be able to just make a monetary paypal donation04:10
Flannelabadtooth: Check out your LoCo team04:10
sparks_Question - Best resource for learning the proper way to network printer in Ubuntu.04:10
abadtoothEvanlec:  where is that?04:10
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: Wel, I changed the partition to fat32, thinking that it cant so file/folder security or acl's, and tried again. no joy. changed filesystem type to auto, and it works. Doubt it will automount this way, but is is a step...04:11
seanixhi :) anyone has problems with the menu (extra text?) how do i fix this? thanks :)04:11
ianm_abadtooth: buy a support contract and don't use it :D04:11
necronekostararrrrrrrrrrgh04:11
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: you did the automount in /etc/fstab?04:11
ianm_abadtooth: ah here http://www.ubuntu.com/community/donations04:11
abadtoothianm_:  that might be a tad bit overkill on my budget :P04:11
markusyCITguy, the last line in the xorg log is : (II) fglrx(0): [DRI] installation complete04:11
Evanlecabadtooth, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/donations04:12
axjvGotta go guys, bye.04:12
necronekostareverything i find on how to create livecd's has to do with editing a current livecd04:12
orangeyhey all.04:12
necronekostar;_;04:12
abadtoothThanks for the Links04:12
etzerdhello all04:12
ianm_(link) haha04:12
markusywhen the screen goes black i can't even use ctrl alt backspace to restart x04:12
sparks_Good night Gentlemen - I will find my answer elsewhere.04:12
Evanlecabadtooth, while ur at it u can make a donation to me for the link (and for helpin noobs in this chan) lol ;)04:12
etzerdhow many more days for the big lunch?04:12
orangeyI have a quick q re "Screen and Graphics". The "Secondary screen" option is greyed out.. any ideas as to how I can use it?04:12
orangeyin fact, dual-screen works just fine until Gnome boots up.. It works even in GDM04:12
jetoledipu: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:FUkxowg9bokJ:www.lsp.ups-tlse.fr/Chafai/dell-latitude-d420.html+beryl+mobile+945gm&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us&client=firefox-a#beryl  <== follow these instructions for setting up kernel modules / xorg.conf but DO NOT INSTALL BERYL once that is all done restart your computer and try desktop effects again04:12
markusyanyone else using fglrx can tell me the last line of their xorg config?04:12
markusyxorg log sorrty04:13
abadtoothEvanlec:  I would, but my budget is very much :P04:13
cheeseboyArenlor, still slow04:13
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: no. Is that the right place for a usb hard drive to be configured for automount?04:13
CITguymarkusy: does your xorg.conf file load the agpgart module?04:13
Evanlecabadtooth, heh its okay, my budget is very tight as well04:13
Arenlorcheeseboy do other programs come up quickly?04:13
Flannelabadtooth: Check out your states LoCo team: http://www.ubuntu-us.org/04:13
dipujetole thanks a bunch04:13
dipui will try that04:13
Evanlecabadtooth, otherwise i would donate too ;p04:13
jetoledipu: also remember you are using an RC / Release Candidate, ubuntu is pretty fscking good when it comes to the RC level of their development but it is still RC, even if it is only two days old it is not final for a reason04:14
markusyCITguy, the agpgart module is loaded by the kernel04:14
abadtoothEvanlec: yeah doesn't it stink?04:14
blaydemarkusy, what is it you're looking for?04:14
ScottASHas anyone had a problem with Pango failing to install during an upgrade from openSUSE 10.2 to openSUSE 10.3?04:14
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: not if it's something you usually plug in and remove04:14
cheeseboyArenlor, yes04:14
jetoledipu: but I hope it works04:14
markusyblayde, do you use the fglrx driver?04:14
Evanlecabadtooth, yes...it really does, especially when you're young and have no experience :(04:14
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: tell you what? go to System > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media.. you might find something there04:14
* jetole is dying for the official release right about now04:15
Dankchildcan someone help me, like one on one?04:15
Arenlorcheeseboy I'd suggest reinstalling firefox04:15
jpastoreaxjv, I tried configure, and it's complaining about hal >=0.5.0 ...hal is installed not sure what version it is...how did you fix this?04:15
blaydemarkusy, yes - for a radeon X60004:15
ScottASArgh. Wrong Channel.04:15
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: thats what I thought. Didn't know to look there. Thanks04:15
markusyblayde, can you paste me the last line of you're /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:15
markusyplease04:15
jetoleDankchild: whats your problem and breast size? I will need to know both of these in order to provide proper support04:15
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: np04:15
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markusyi need to see if x is freezing on load04:15
riotkittieargh. yer such a jerk, dude.  D:04:16
dipujetole ... i know that 7.10 will be released ina day or two .. how can i change from RC to stable04:16
markusyCITguy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=355464604:16
dipuany idea ??04:16
blaydemarkusy, (II) XAA: Evicting pixmaps04:16
jj320how do i add resolutions to the list under screen resolutions mines running at 1024x768 and my monitor is 1280x102404:17
ghx?04:17
Dankchildhaha, after installing alien (sudo apt-get install alien) to get flash on 64bit firefox it says to enter these lines, in this order sudo alien nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.2-1.x86_64.rpm04:17
markusyblayde, do you have "(II) fglrx(0): [DRI] installation complete" in there at all?04:17
Dankchildsudo alien nspluginwrapper-i386-0.9.91.2-1.x86_64.rpm04:17
Dankchildsudo dpkg -i nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.2-1.x86_64.deb04:17
Dankchildsudo dpkg -i nspluginwrapper-i386-0.9.91.2-1.x86_64.deb04:18
riotkittiejj320: open a terminal and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... this will guide you through xorg setup ,nad you can choose resolutions there04:18
eternalswdanyone know how to get libcdio 0.78 to replace the one in feisty.  I would like to be able to build vlc trunk.  It's kind of ridiculous that 0.78 which has been out for about a year now wasn't put into gutsy otherwise I would just wait for dist-upgrade.04:18
Dankchildbut when i do it says04:18
Dankchilddpkg: error processing nspluginwrapper-i386-0.9.91.2-1.x86_64.deb (--install):04:18
Dankchild cannot access archive: No such file or directory04:18
DankchildErrors were encountered while processing:04:18
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: there isn't much there. It says to mount removable media when hotplugged, which it does, but there isn't anything about ownership.04:18
jetoledipu: it should be done automatically for you when stable comes out but I had a few problems doing that from edgy to feisty and from feisty to RC04:18
orangeyany thoughts on why gutsy won't give me a "screen 2" that I can use, despite having a VGA output?04:18
Dankchildi did everything the guide told me to do, any suggestions?04:18
orangeyon my laptop, that is.04:18
nooobyi just installed gutsy rc1. I tried to activaet compiz-fusion through system>preferences>appearance but it says "composite extension not available" do i have to download another package"? i thought it was supported by default?04:19
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: yeah, sorry that didn't help04:19
jetoleluckily when I did feisty to RC I made a complete backup of /04:19
diputhanks jetole04:19
riotkittienoooby: what gfx card?04:19
jpastoreI have another problem. I cannot burn dvd-r's that are -R media...I read on the forums some other people are also having this problem...is there a fix for this?04:19
jetoleand a disk image of /boot04:19
Dankchildoh yeah and no breasts.04:19
Dankchildhah04:19
blaydemarkusy, i'm not finding that anywhere...04:19
markusyok thanks blayde04:19
jetoleDankchild: I never got nswrapper to work properly myself, I installed 32bit firefox and it works fine04:20
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: I'm gonna post in the forum, cuz I bet there is a bug somewhere to do with this, I just don't know enough to be sure....04:20
CITguymarkusy: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found04:20
Dankchildcan i install 32 bit firefox on 64 bit system, if so how do i go about doing that?04:20
jetoleDankchild: I also don't really trust alien04:20
CITguymarkusy: X doesn't see your card04:20
nooobyriotkittie: radeon x600 (with restricted drivers installed)04:20
jetoleI trust Alanna but thats more of a personal matter04:21
jetoleand she's worth it04:21
CITguymarkusy: try:     sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg04:21
Separanybody have any idea if there will be an alternate CD release for gutsy? =\04:21
dipujetole ...just a small qwestion .. how do i edit the file /etc/modules04:21
dipu???04:21
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: probably search the forums before you post?04:21
cdm10dipu: you'll need to be root, so hit alt-f2 and type < gksudo gedit /etc/modules >04:21
dipui know sudo from command promt04:21
PovAddictSepar: why not?04:21
PovAddictmost probably there will04:21
poorlenoWhen will the 4.10 come out? I understand it's today, but between now and when?04:21
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: but i'm sure ubuntu.com is getting hammered right now04:21
Separ\o/ great04:21
dipuok thanks04:22
cdm10poorleno: look at the topic... i assume you mean 7.1004:22
frijolieanyone know how to get a NIC working?04:22
riotkittienoooby: your card's been blacklisted because there are issues with it and compiz-fusion. i cannot tell you what those issues are. we can override the blacklist, but i can't promise your system will be stable.  do you want to proceed?04:22
poorlenoOh, sorry. Yes, 7.10. I'll shutup now.04:22
digitalELPHdankchild: does this help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava04:22
jetoledipu: I typically type vim /etc/modules as root but an easy way for you would be to open up a console / terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/modules04:22
frijolieI'm getting no net connection on an internal Network card in an old desktop04:22
jetoledipu: ... gksudo gedit /etc/modules04:22
draconiusanybody here ever gotten WMVHD / WMA Pro to work properly in ANY media player?04:23
dipujetole got it.. thanks ... whats the diff between sudo and gksudo04:23
cdm10dipu: gksudo's for gui (not command line) applications04:23
teKnofreakdipu, gksudo gives you a GUI04:23
nooobyriotkittie: yes i do. can u lead me to the how-to or tell me how04:23
dipugreat thanks ..04:23
secret901poorleno: it's out 3 years ago04:23
Sherlockhey anyone know what time the new ubuntu is released??04:24
Separi may not need to get an alternate CD if someone can help figure out my live CD error on boot: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"04:24
Sherlockmidnight maybe04:24
cdm10Sherlock: LOOK at the TOPIC.04:24
rob!topic Sherlock04:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic sherlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:24
rob!topic | Sherlock04:24
ubotuSherlock: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic04:24
riotkittienoooby: open up a terminal, type the following without quotes ... "echo SKIP_CHECKS=yes >> ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager"04:24
Sherlockthx04:24
cdm10Sherlock: generally it goes out on BitTorrent early, and then goes to the HTTP mirrors later. 7.04 came out at about noon i think.04:24
Ward1983how can i make x11vnc not quit when i disconnect?04:24
viverantanyone else having issues with network and serial services in bluetooth applet not staying started on reboot?04:24
jetoledipu: gksudo is more qualified to handle graphical / X applications as root04:25
CITguy*** Just a note to those of you just joining us. We do NOT know the exact time that Gutsy will be available. All we know is that it will be available sometime within the next 24 hours. ***04:25
markusyCITguy, set the correct busid in the xorg config brb04:25
cdm10CITguy: maybe suggest putting it into the topic over in #ubuntu-ops04:25
Separanyone help with my thing above?04:25
taboI joined because ubuntu.com is down, I thought it was being updated for the release04:26
gpmhey guys, is there a way to get my wallpaper to change randomly at a timed interval, short of writing a script and adding it as a cron job or installing wallpaper-tray?04:26
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robcdm10, it already is04:26
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nooobythat's it? and it'll work?04:26
eontasticohowdy04:26
nooobyriotkittie: that's it and it'll work?04:26
eontasticoso wtf is wrong with flash and firefox and ubuntu04:26
taboand I didn't know ubuntu.com switched from plone to drupal04:26
NeosophistHiya, I need to install "SDL-Development" can I get it with apt-get?04:26
cdm10rob: It is? My client isn't displaying the whole thing then.04:26
eontasticoi hate that i cant even watch more than 2 youtube vids04:26
tonyyarussogpm: I've heard there is a package for it, but don't know the name04:26
tonyyarussogpm: not natively, I know that.04:26
robcdm10, Gutsy release party in #ubuntu-release-party, please don't ask when it'll be out04:26
riotkittienoooby: should. ALT + F2 and type compiz --replace when you've done it. you might need to alt ctrl bkspc out of x, but i think the first will work alright04:27
gpmtonyyarusso: wallpaper-tray, but it has this annoying little icon in the tray that i you can't get rid of04:27
robcdm10, that's at the end04:27
tonyyarussogpm: bah :(04:27
cdm10rob: oh, ok, I saw that, but there was more that CITguy said that helps answer the question.04:27
gpmtonyyarusso: c'est la vie.04:27
tonyyarussogpm: then you'd have to do it yourself I guess04:27
frijolielooks like i picked the wrong night to ask for help..it's way too busy in here04:27
borovy3488no more gutsy channel?04:27
gpmtonyyarusso: yeah. but the only way i can think of is a bash script with a cron job, and that's sloppy04:27
felipe__Hello, could someone help me adding citrix support to de tsclient?04:27
nooobyriotkittie: thank you. after the skip-check thing, i can use compiz like normal like every1 else w/ ccsm?04:27
cdm10borovy3488: #ubuntu-release-party i guess, since it's almost released04:27
gpmtonyyarusso: oh well. thanks anyway04:28
riotkittienoooby: should be able to04:28
Renan_Gutsyhey anybody04:28
borovy3488cdm10: thanks04:28
Separcan anybody help with errors i get on live CD boot, "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"04:28
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=== rob changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Gutsy release party in #ubuntu-release-party | Gutsy will be released some time in the next 24 hours, please don't ask
WorkingOnWiseDavy_Jones: had to take the dogs out..I'll post on the forum when things cool down a bit. Aint all this intrest in 7.10 awesome?!04:28
robthere we go04:28
* jetole flicks macd's ear04:28
xTheGoat121xEvening all04:29
jetoleoi macd04:29
macdhey jetole04:29
beerfancan we discuss gutsy yet? :-)04:29
riotkittiebeerfan: discuss away.04:29
jetolewhats shaking bru?04:29
Davy_JonesWorkingOnWise: yah, good luck with getting to ubuntu.com :P04:29
beerfanw00t04:29
HugLeoWhy I get the message 5 CDs requested on 2007-10-09. 5 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2007-10-15. ?04:29
macdnotta really, but we shouldnt talk casually in here either, join shacknet #base ?04:29
HugLeoI think release is today don't 2007-10-1504:30
jetolemacd: was already on it04:30
robif you want to have a general discussion there is #ubuntu-release-party and #ubuntu-offtopic04:30
seamus7Tracker through the Deskbar -verses- Tracker through the accessories menu .. hmmmm ... I find the Deskbar overkill ... anyone else?04:30
foxrayis installing the nvidia driver on gutsy gibbon same way it was done on fietsy fawn?04:30
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xTheGoat121xMy system monitor is showing 94% processor usage, but when I look at my open programs, hardly any of my resources are being used... is it possible to have a false-positive?04:31
robfoxray, with Restricted Drivers manager04:31
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Renan_GutsyUbuntu is dead04:31
bigK_Is there a good install guide to dual boot xp ubuntu when the machine has multiple hard drives?   Am I overlooking this somewhere?  - Thanks04:31
Renan_GutsyOfficial04:31
Renan_Gutsysite04:31
robyes we know04:31
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seamus7xTheGoat121x: did you just install Gutsy?04:31
riotkittiesite's not dead for me04:31
Flannel!dualboot | bigK_04:31
ubotubigK_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty04:31
xTheGoat121xseamus... no sir, I'm still running Feisty04:31
foxrayrob: yes that way i'm talking about with the restricted devices manager like this website http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_setup_nVidia_drivers_in_7.0404:31
Renan_GutsyFucinho de porco num é tomada04:31
bigK_ubotu:  thanks!04:32
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)04:32
nooobyriotkittie: i don't have a /.config/compiz folder04:32
seamus7xTheGoat121x: nevermind ... i thought you might be experiencing Tracker indexing your home folder04:32
elementhey guys04:32
Renan_GutsyFucinho de porco num é tomada04:32
NinjjaXhahah... Aqui o pessoal eh mais tranquilo04:32
[Gutsy]HeckmanEveryone join #ubuntu-release-party04:32
robfoxray, it will appear in the icon tray on the top right, also under the menus04:32
[Gutsy]Heckman:D04:32
elementI have Logitech USB headphones04:32
ARJonesI am really confused about what the out-of-the-box codecs gutsy will support are, and how they are handled. The wiki does not cover this. Anyone know a site that does, or that can answer that for me?04:32
kanjolet's party 2nite for GUTSY!!! #ubuntu-release-party04:32
Renan_GutsyHappy Party04:32
xTheGoat121xseamus7, will there be an option in Gutsy to disable the tracker?04:32
[Gutsy]HeckmanARJones04:32
elementanyone have an Idea in how I would get those working in linux04:32
Renan_GutsyMario Party (nintendo) is here?04:32
Renan_Gutsyhehehe04:32
kanjolet's party 2nite for GUTSY!!! #ubuntu-release-party04:32
tonyyarussoNo need to advertise the party in here - it's in the topic.04:32
[Gutsy]HeckmanYou'll find out when it is releasewd04:32
[Gutsy]Heckmanreleased*04:32
Gum1HUHUH04:32
se7en^Of^9rc = finale relase for kubuntu 7.10 ?04:33
Renan_Gutsyi'm from Brasil04:33
Flannelse7en^Of^9: No04:33
ARJoneshmmmm04:33
Renan_GutsyBrasil 5 x 0 Equador04:33
robThis channel is for support, please don't advertise the other channels over and over again :D04:33
ARJones>:p04:33
HugLeoRenan_Gutsy: _ Here too!!! stop, please.04:33
HugLeolol04:33
Gum1auehuahe04:33
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extrakicksorry quick question, is it true there are viruses and spyware on linux systems04:33
Renan_Gutsyashasuhee04:33
viverantI am guessing the RC wasnt the final release04:33
Gum1We have the best soccer!04:33
extrakickwell i men that u can get them04:33
viverantleast I hope not04:33
Gum1aeuhaueha04:33
eulogy_RC is Release Candidate.04:33
riotkittienoooby: that's bizarre. are you actually looking for the folder, or did you get an error message with that command?04:33
nooobyboth04:34
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xTheGoat121xSo anyone have an idea, is it possible to have a false positive on CPU usage in the system monitor?04:34
Separextrakick: very rare occasions04:34
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extrakicksepar, doh does tht mean i should really have antivirus installed on uuntu04:35
secret901what happened to #ubuntu+1?04:35
cafuegoit's sekret now04:35
Madpilotextrakick, there's never been a Linux virus "in the wild" - lab creations only. Don't bother with antivirus, mostly04:35
nooobyriotkittie: i was looking for that folder to get into in the terminal so i could enter the command and coudln't find it. my /.config folder just has gtk-2.0, tracker, and user-dirs.dirs, and user-dirs.locale04:35
willgameCan someone tell me what time of day Gutsy Will Be released?04:35
cafuegowillgame: 11pm04:36
cdm10!topic | willgame04:36
ubotuwillgame: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic04:36
[Gutsy]HeckmanWait04:36
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[Gutsy]Heckman11 PM which time?04:36
ralphohow about what kernel it uses04:36
cafuegoI dunno which timezone.04:36
cdm10That's not true04:36
MTughanOh, I was just wondering about that...04:36
cdm10#u-r-p says they don't know when it'll be released04:36
Sherlockanyone here have a macbook??04:36
Solar_EcliptorNope.04:36
[Gutsy]HeckmanIt's 11:30 PM here04:36
cafuegoBut it'll probably be 11pm *somewhere*04:36
cdm10ralpho: I'm running it, i'll tell you04:36
MTughanYes.04:36
cdm10hold on04:36
sainzeohey all, after installing the nvidia drivers with Envy, i am getting glx missing on display errors - any ideas?04:36
beerfananyone use mt-daapd in gutsy? I can't get rhythmbox to see daap playlists even though the feature list says it does04:36
MTughanSherlock: Yes.04:36
willgameoh haha04:36
willgamekk04:36
ralphocdm10 thanks04:36
cdm10ralpho: 2.6.22.14.2104:37
extrakickmadpilot, im dual booting, windows xp and ubuntu 7.04, should i have additional precaution because im dual booting04:37
SherlockMTughan: under feisty you ever get suspend to work, without kernel upgrade?04:37
MTughanOh, never run it natively. Just inside a VM.04:37
ralphocdm10 thanks i was wondering could not find it anywhere04:37
riotkittienoooby: in that case, i dont know what to tell you :|04:37
extrakickmadpilot, sorry im just asking incase that changes anything04:37
jdongSherlock: everyone says feisty suspend for macbooks is broken04:37
Sherlockif you ever do, there is a great wiki for it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook04:38
jdongSherlock: I am running Gutsy on my macbook and it suspends fine with very very minor tweaks to acpi-support04:38
Madpilotextrakick, keep running anti-vir on your XP partition; I wouldn't bother in Ubuntu, but you can04:38
cdm10ralpho: it's easy, watch me04:38
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Sherlockjdong: you got a late C2d??04:38
MTughanThanks, I'm happy with OS X. Better than the M$ crap.04:38
Sherlockwhite04:38
cdm10!info linux-image gutsy | ralpho04:38
uboturalpho: linux-image: Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB04:38
beerfanextrakick: viruses are almost universally OS dependant. you should be safe04:38
jdongSherlock: yes, I got the latest generation 2.16 c2d04:38
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MTughanSweet... This is a CD 2.0Ghz.04:38
secret901When I resume from hibernate, my wireless connection is disconnected04:38
jeevan_ullasis gutsy released ??04:38
clustyjdong: know anything about flaky suspend suport for laptops?04:38
sainzeohey all, after installing the nvidia drivers with Envy, i am getting glx missing on display errors - any ideas?04:38
jdongMTughan: you'll be even better supported04:38
jeevan_ullas!gutsy04:38
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information04:38
clustyjdong: mine works 1/3 at best04:39
Sherlockjdong: hmmm yea im under 1.86 never work out of box, the gutsy kernel did04:39
jdongclusty: suspend support tends to be extremely hardware specific04:39
secret901Wireless worked in Fiesty but had problems in Gutsy04:39
extrakickmadpilot, cheers i'll just stick with antivirus on windows xp, wat about spyware? do i need protection ofr that on ubuntu?04:39
olmalerinfo04:39
viverantsainzeo, undo envy and try using the restricted drivers method04:39
extrakickbeerfan, cheer for the info04:39
Madpilotextrakick, no such thing (yet) as Linux spyware04:39
clustyjdong: weird part is that feisty supported just fine this model04:39
beerfanextrakick: forget about that crap...just don't run apps as root and you'll be fine04:39
MTughanlol04:39
Taluntui ican04:39
Taluntui cant wait for ubuntu 7.10 :D04:39
* Taluntu counting the mins to realase :p04:39
sainzeoviverant, i've tried that as well and i get the same errors04:39
SherlockWORD04:39
secret901Taluntu: just get the rc04:40
clustyis there any use to doing a clean install once gutsy is releaqsed?04:40
* jamisnemo wonders how hard it would be to make spyware for linux..04:40
viverantsainzeo, what type of card?04:40
cdm10clusty: if you want, you can...04:40
jdongclusty: suspend under Linux tends to be flaky in that manner, primarily because we (the Linux developers) are provided with next to no information on how to properly put devices into sleep and re-initialize them on wakeup04:40
jflashI type:04:40
sainzeoviverant, geforce 660004:40
jflashI type:  ./apachectl -k graceful    .. and I  get "no such file or directory"04:40
Taluntuhow much time left to the realase ?04:40
extrakickthank you madpilot and beerfan, its just cause i found an ubuntuguide that said there are viruses and spyware and to install etc...04:40
jflashthis is under etc/apache204:40
cdm10Taluntu: look at the topic04:40
jflashplease help!04:40
jdongTaluntu: please read topic04:40
* Erythro loads ubuntu.com and hits refresh repeatedly04:40
Taluntuwhat is r04:41
extrakickso because im new to linux, that kinda shocked what i thought i knew, hahaha04:41
clustyjdong: i imagine and you add on top the binary drivers :(04:41
Talunturc?04:41
Gum1Peaple, have any problem if i speak about soccer?04:41
beerfanextrakick: that's written by people coming from windows who don't know better04:41
jdongErythro: please don't knock down the server....04:41
secret901I have a Dell e1505 laptop, and everything worked under Feisty.  Now in Gutsy suspend and wireless are really flaky.04:41
MTughanUbuntu.com was overloaded just a little while ago...04:41
Gum1People*04:41
nooobyriotkittie: since i was blacklisted, do i need to install the compiz-fusion packages? is that why i don't have those folders? or am i looking in the wrong place04:41
Gum1rsr04:41
Madpilotextrakick, there's lots of sub-standard "support" writing out there - which URL were you at?04:41
MTughanTaluntu: Release Candidate.04:41
Erythrojdong: i was just kidding :)04:41
jdongclusty: yeah. fglrx suspend is a disaster on Gutsy for sure04:41
jdongErythro: I bet 10 bucks there's thousands out there who are doing it right now :D04:41
tonyyarusso!offtopic | Gum104:41
ubotuGum1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:41
Flanneljflash: Which version of ubuntu is this?04:41
extrakickmadpilot, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning04:41
secret901#ubuntu+1 is inaccessible04:41
HorizonXPwhich room would i go for Gutsy support?04:42
Gum1ubotu: Ok ok...04:42
FlannelHorizonXP: this one04:42
HorizonXPi did the dist-upgrade04:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ok ok... - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:42
cdm10secret901: that's because it's about to be released04:42
clustyjdong: something i dont really get: my sony has 2 video cards which i can choose at boot time. some dude said here that i cant have 3d accel running for both04:42
dWhois it today?04:42
Gum1nothing about soccer...04:42
dWhois it today?04:42
clustyjdong: is that true? and why?04:42
cdm10HorizonXP: you weren't supposed to do the dist-upgrade.04:42
DMLouHorizon: apparently this is now the gutsy support room, since Gutsy should be released any minute now if not already04:42
extrakickbeerfan, lol, that would figure right04:42
Gum1fu...04:42
dWhois it today?04:42
Madpilotextrakick, meh. some of the stuff on ubuntuguide.org is good, some of it is... not. Stick to the main Ubuntu docs - help.ubuntu.com04:42
cdm10YES04:42
cdm10!topic04:42
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic04:42
dWho!topic04:42
SeparCan anybody help with the busybox error when I try and boot from the live CD: "/bin/sh: Can't access tty; job control turned off"?04:42
Ward1983how can i tell x11vnc not to quit when i disconect?04:42
HorizonXPok guys, well i ran update-manager -d04:42
HorizonXPcuz i wanted to avoid the mad rush04:43
jdongclusty: you should be able to... Feisty had specific work done to it to redetect changed graphics hardware at boot04:43
Gum1People, samebody canb help me? I have the problem with Optiplex 320, samebody sed this problem?04:43
Ryuhogo ubuntu04:43
beerfanextrakick: believe only half of what you see, and none of what you read...I guess applies here lol04:43
Ryuhoyou make me hard with your human color04:43
Jimb_/topic04:43
dWhoyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:43
eontasticoanyone know of any WYSIWYG ASP EDITORS for linux?04:43
HorizonXPi had compiz installed from seperate packages..... now compiz doesn't work04:43
extrakickmadpilot, ok cheers for that. u and beerfan have put my mind to rest04:43
cdm10I'd say it's no use trying to get support here until 5 days after release.04:43
Gum1I can't install in this machine...04:43
jdongdWho: one is enough04:43
extrakickbeerfan , lol04:43
dWhoeontastico : i dunno monodevelop?04:43
cafuegoPlease direct moronic spam to #ubuntu-release-party04:43
clustyjdong: thanx a bunch04:43
MTughanWYSIWYG ASP editors? I didn't know you could get something like that...04:43
sainzeoviverant, any ideas?04:43
jdongclusty: sure thing04:43
riotkittienoooby: i really dont know. my card was blacklisted, and i used the command to override, and had no issues at all. did effects /ever/ work for you under 7.10? [maybe they put the blacklist into the actual installation after i'd gotten the disc. mine worked out of the box, but were killed with an upgrade]04:44
extrakickbeerfan, madpilot, thank you both for your advice, it was much appreciated.04:44
dudeanyone, is upgrading a worse idea than a fresh install?04:44
Madpilotextrakick, no problem, have fun04:44
beerfanextrakick: when reading those howtos, it's good to get a second opinion04:44
dWhocafuego... : relax04:44
viverantsainzeo, checking around but not getting much04:44
MTughandude: No, except on Windows. :P04:44
naliothdude: linux is designed to only be installed once, and upgraded ever after04:44
jdongdude: not necessarily, I've upgraded across 5 Ubuntu releases04:44
MTughanActually, I'm not quite sure.04:44
extrakickmadpilot, will do04:44
canerthe question may be irrelevant but a contemporary porblem that most of you might live. i am planning to move 7.10 tomorrow but how i dont know how can i move my firefox personal information (bookmarks and passwords)? is there any way to extract them?)04:44
dudethanks guys04:44
cafuegodWho: Imagine all 1300 users deciding to spam like you did. Just not cool.04:44
dudehopefully this will be the update that kills my second windows partition *cross fingers*04:45
dWhocafuego : .... is it spam... oops... sorry....04:45
jdongcaner: an upgrade will not affect any of your personal data and settings04:45
MTughan1362 members, that is.04:45
eontasticodWho:  thanks this looks like exactly what i want04:45
extrakickbeerfan, yep definately so, peaceout, im off to sleep, and hoping to try 7.10 in the morning, hahaha04:45
Ward1983lol cafuego04:45
nooobyriotkittie: i just got 7.10 upgraded like 20 min. ago and the first thing i did was try to get the effects to work.04:45
dWhoeontastico : go mono dude04:45
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riotkittiecaner: theyre in your ~ dir , probably in .mozilla  ... why not keep ~ entirely?04:45
secret901caner: how are you moving to 7.10?04:45
jdongcaner: if you ever do need to back up your Firefox profile, it's in a folder called .mozilla in your home directory. You can just copy that somewhere else and replace it later04:45
canerjdong : yes i know that but unfortunately i will not upgrade. i want an clean install04:45
[R]i'm trying to get suspend 2 ram working... i've tried every method i can find... it goes to sleep fine but it wont wake up... does anyone know anything i can try?04:46
riotkittienoooby: in a term, type apt-cache policy compiz04:46
jdongcaner: I'd recommend backing up your entire /home then, so you can extract that and restore all your personal testtings04:46
canerjdong will it move passwords also?04:46
DMLouR: have you tried s2ram or s2both?04:46
jdongcaner: Firefox stores its passwords in ~/.mozilla too04:46
riotkittienoooby: let me know if its installed or not04:46
Jimb_After a web upgrade i now get a kernel panic when gutsy tries to start04:46
savagenatorsudo apt-get remove 7.04 && sudo apt-get install 7.1004:46
canerjdong thanks04:46
[R]DMLou: s2ram04:46
canerjdong home is really a mess and i want to get rid of it :)04:46
[R]DMLou: and hibernate-script, and powersave04:47
DMLouR: what video drivers are you using?04:47
viverantsainzeo, did you run updates before or after installing the restricted driver at all?04:47
[R]DMLou: i was doing it in console04:47
canerjdong .mozilla way is enough thanx04:47
DMLouR: so X isn't running at all?04:47
[R]no04:47
sainzeoviverant, i ran the updates before i attempted to do the restricted driver04:47
nooobyriotkittie: it says "Installed" with a bunch of stuff and then "Candidate" under w/ a bunch of stuff04:47
viverantsainzeo, sorry I am out of ideas04:47
sainzeoviverant, thats okay - thanks for trying04:47
forkmantisI need some help understanding how to configure directory permissions04:47
DMLouR: weird...  any chance you have any X drivers installed?  I'm just asking since the proprietary ATI driver kernel mod has issues with s2ram04:47
MTughanforkmantis: chmod04:48
Jimb_Anyway to recover feom kernel panic?04:48
forkmantisI have a log directory that www-data writes to04:48
DMLouyou may have the mod installed even without running X04:48
[R]DMLou: the nvidia is installed, but i checked lsmod, it wasn't enabled04:48
forkmantisand I run command line tasks that write to as well04:48
DMLouJimb: hit the big red switch and pray it doesn't happen again04:48
ianm_Jimb_: try booting with a different kernel?04:48
stefano_Does anyone know if it is possible to have SCIM as the default input, but disabled by default making it so that the english keyb default and when turned on Ctrl+Space it switches to the lang i have selected.04:48
stefano_?04:48
DMLouR: ok...  I'm stumped then, sorry (:04:48
DMLouer :(04:48
savagenator./feeds of the techy linux convo04:48
* savagenator feeds04:48
savagenatorlol04:48
Jimb_It happens everytime04:48
lavender_dreamis ubuntu+1 room "full" or something?04:48
* DMLou is still wrestling with his wifi config04:48
PovAddictlavender_dream: it's 'secret'04:48
riotkittienoooby: what driver are you using at the moment?04:49
DMLoulavender: I think since gutsy is practically out the door, they want to get that room set up for heron04:49
forkmantisMTughan: I'm looking for a way to avoid having to manually chmod the log file every time04:49
SeparCan anybody help with the busybox error when I try and boot from the live CD: "/bin/sh: Can't access tty; job control turned off"?04:49
youknowmewhats the party channel?04:49
Flannellavender_dream: no, its redirecting here.  This is the place for gutsy support.  #ubuntu-release-party is the place for non-support gutsy stuff.04:49
Jimb_Started after doing a update -d04:49
forkmantisumask on the folder shows 002204:49
tonyyarussoyouknowme: read the topic04:49
MTughanforkmantis: It's deleted and then recreated every time?04:49
ianm_youknowme: cinemax I think04:49
forkmantisit's appended to04:49
nooobyriotkittie: how do i figure that out? i just clicked inside the "restricted driver's" management thing and enabled the restrcited driver04:49
MTughanSo chmod it to 0666.04:49
eontasticodWho: what extension would a .NET Project file have?04:49
ianm_that way only the devil can read it04:49
Jimb_Im typing on my iphone so this is slow04:49
ianm_Jimb_: did you try a different kernel?  hit Esc at boot and choose an older one04:50
forkmantisMTughan: Is there a way to make it default to 0666 if it's deleted, regardless of wether it's created by me or the webserver?04:50
MTughanI don't think so.04:50
Jimb_I did a update-manager -d04:50
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forkmantisOK04:50
lavender_dreamFlannel: Thank you04:50
PovAddictforkmantis: there are "umasks" but I'm not sure if it's what you need04:50
riotkittienoooby: ah ha. i should have thought to ask that sooner :|  i think you have to install other packages to use it with the restricted driver but i'm not sure what they are :|04:50
dWho<eontastico> : i really mdp for project and mds for solution i guess...04:51
forkmantisPovAddict: the current umask for the directory is 002204:51
riotkittiexserver-xgl ? maybe04:51
Jimb_After it was done i rebooted and got the kernel panic04:51
nooobyriotkittie: o0o0 ok thanks .. i'll go look for it =)04:51
forkmantiswhich should result in default perms of 0755, right?04:51
Jimb_Previously it worked flawlesslt04:51
PovAddictforkmantis: I think umasks are for processes, not for directories04:51
ianm_Jimb_: BOOT WITH THE OLDER KERNEL04:51
Ward1983how can i tell x11vnc not to quit when i disconect?04:51
MTughan0755 means only write support for the owner, not the group or others.04:51
PovAddictforkmantis: so it depends on what umask the webserver has while running :\04:51
dWhoeontastico : try it it you can develop vb.net/asp.net/gtk and windows forms in linux04:51
Jimb_Sec let me see04:52
forkmantisdaugh...04:52
dWhoeontastico : you can even import visual studio.net project in  monodevelop04:52
forkmantisumask 0011 did the trick04:52
AMH_bobHi everyone!04:52
Conceptswow alot of users in here04:52
MTughanHi, and bye.04:52
MTughan1358 in all.04:52
Conceptsi love ubuntu :)04:52
PovAddicthmm04:52
PovAddictthere are 'gutsy-desktop-i386.iso' torrents04:52
DMLouConcepts: I'd love it more if I could get my damned wifi card to work :P04:52
ianm_Concepts: ubuntu loves you too04:52
MTughanConcepts: I figured if you're in here. :P04:53
Concepts:)04:53
dWhoPovAddict : is it official?04:53
nrdbWard1983: if you don't start the server on a particular port, then use the client to connect to that port, the server shouldn't quit when you close the client.04:53
PovAddictdWho: no idea04:53
cwOmalang04:53
MTughanWe're not all running Ubuntu though. I'm on OS X with Ubuntu in a VM.04:53
eontasticodWho: my situation is i have all the asp files for a site that a client of mine wants moved to our webserver --- we mainly deal with php but we have asp installed as well --- they want us to add a few actions to the site using ASP, there are pre-existing actions that really just need to be copied and modified, but I am not a codemonkey04:53
Jimb_Ok it is getting past that issue.  What is the cause?04:53
cdm10Yes, the torrent normally comes out before the http release... so you can get it a bit early.04:53
eontasticoi dont see that we have the project files04:53
eontasticojust the asp04:53
DMLouhas anyone had any luck at all with wifi on a ThinkPad T42 with an Atheros card?  I can get the driver (both madwifi and ndiswrapper and no, I not at the same time) to see the card, but it won't associate with an AP04:54
cdm10However, I'm already running Gutsy with the latest updates (from Beta CD) so I'm already there.04:54
PovAddictdWho: there's 4 of each, all different infohash, so who knows...04:54
ianm_Jimb_: a bug in that kernel on your hardware...04:54
Conceptssame04:54
Ward1983nrdb it doe quit when i disconnect04:54
VampyricIs Gusty Going live at midnight?04:54
blazemongerdoes anyone here have a ibm thinkcentre 8184NUG04:54
DMLouI've tried everything up until the associate part in the wifi troubleshooting pages04:54
Solar_EcliptorNope.04:54
Ward1983does04:54
ianm_Jimb_: so make a note of where it hangs, google it, most likely it's a known problem, then just wait till it's fixed ;)04:54
PovAddictVampyric: see topic04:54
MTughanVampyric: Depends on what timezone too.04:54
blazemongerif so i need help04:54
nrdbWard1983: you started the server from the command line ?04:54
ianm_Jimb_: until then use the older kernel04:54
ver1982hi everyone04:54
Concepts11:50pm here eastern time us04:54
blazemongerdoes anyone here have a ibm thinkcentre 8184NUG04:55
ver1982is gutsy already released?04:55
Ward1983nrdb correct04:55
Solar_EcliptorNope.04:55
ianm_Concepts: where are you?04:55
dWhoeontastico : monodevelop is good ide if you're in linux04:55
dystopianrayver1982: no04:55
cdm10ver1982: look at the topic.04:55
MTughanConcepts: 11:55PM.04:55
abadtootheveryone /join #ubuntu-release-party04:55
Jimb_Now is kde but i can live with it04:55
VampyricMTughan, sorry but topic dosn't show any info on it on my side or I wouldn't have asked04:55
Conceptseast coast virginia beach virginia04:55
MTughanabadtooth: I was there before...04:55
ver1982sorry :)04:55
nrdbWard1983: ok, I have done it that way in the past, don't know why its quiting.04:55
MTughanVampyric: Topic says it'll be released within 24 hours, and not to ask specifics.04:55
ianm_Jimb_: the kernel doesn't change gnome to kde... :D04:55
Ward1983sorry for slow typing nrdb im on vnc now with apsp04:56
cdm10LOOK AT THE TOPIC, go to #ubuntu-release-party for GUTSY release info.04:56
dWho<eontastico> : if you're just going to add or bind some actions go mono04:56
Ward1983nrdb no prob ill ask again later04:56
Jimb_I agree, something in the update-manager  -d caused it04:56
nrdbWard1983: try starting the server with the minimum arguments.04:57
ianm_Jimb_: just choose what you want at the login screen04:57
Jimb_I switched already04:57
hidoxany knows about ultimate ubuntu ?04:57
Jimb_Nice seeing number of its below folder icon04:58
Ward1983i will tomorrow is not possile now im running vnc04:58
Jimb_Nice addition to gnome04:58
MTughanOkay, my last 20-30 messages here are people joining/parting.05:01
Dan_LI was just about to ask.  And the topic says "don't ask".05:01
CITguyditto05:01
riotkittieMTughan: isnt it lovely?05:01
CITguylol05:01
MTughanlol05:01
Dan_LHere I was all "Today, I get to start learning linux".05:01
Dan_LI've been clicking refresh for the last 4 hours.  I'm kidding.05:01
axjvDoes anyone know what program makes the best and nicest-looking charts?05:02
MTughanDan_L: Some people have. >_>05:02
d|vis there any difference between the release and the rc05:02
JimbOpen office05:02
MTughanaxjc: Try OpenOffice Calc.05:02
Dan_LCharts?  Try open office Calc or Draw.05:02
HipotermiAplz05:02
logreevalIs 35C a good temp for an AMD am2 6000+ cpu?05:02
MTughand|v: I don't think so. If there are, not many.05:02
HipotermiAlink of ubuntu gusty?05:02
logreevalidling..05:02
axjvMTughan: I've tried that, the pie charts look a little... Windows 95-is.05:02
cachedCalc isn't terribly pretty05:02
DMLouif you want something programmable, ploticus does a good job05:02
cdm10HipotermiA: it's not out yet, and this is the wrong channel. Get out.05:02
MTughanlogreeval: 35C is excellent.05:02
axjvish*05:02
cachedIt has a long way to go05:02
d|vok yeah i didn't think so05:03
Fitzsimmonswhat is the right channel05:03
MTughanlogreeval: My Core Duo is running at 70C.05:03
d|vi installed the rc i figured its pretty much the same05:03
cachedFitzsimmons: #right05:03
Fitzsimmonsrelease-party?05:03
hakancenselamlar   ubuntu 7.10 kararlı sürümü çıktımı bilen varmı ?  link varmı  çıktıysa verirmisiniz ??????05:03
cdm10!topic | Fitzsimmons, HipotermiA05:03
ubotuFitzsimmons, HipotermiA: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:03
logreevalMTughan: thanks, and wow that seems hot05:03
code48how do you unpack a package once you download it? I want to install irsii and i think it's in fiesty05:03
MTughanlogreeval: It can handle up to 100C.05:03
empthollow/leave05:03
HipotermiAfuck you!05:03
cdm10code48: just get it from the repos05:03
riotkittiesigh.05:03
logreevalMTughan: jeez, do you happened to know what my Am2 can handle?05:03
empthollow/LEAVE05:03
Flannelcode48: irssi is in all ubuntu versions.  Use apt-get, don't download it.05:04
MTughanlogreeval: Check AMD's site.05:04
Flannelempthollow: /part05:04
d|vim not a fan of pidgin though05:04
Dan_LLOL.  I like this HipotermiA guy.05:04
hidox_I tried to get a channel talking about Ultimate ubuntu  , any knows any ???05:04
d|vits crashed numerous times05:04
logreevalMTughan: ok, il check05:04
Flannelcode48: `sudo apt-get install irssi`05:04
MTughanDan_L: I agree.05:04
d|vi never had problems with gaim that i have with pidgin05:04
diabolixis there a release party channle, or is everyone hanging out in here?05:04
Dankchildhey i have a webcam and i was wondering how do i get it to work?05:04
cdm10diabolix: look at the topic.05:04
MTughan!topic diabolix05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic diabolix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:04
code48i did this command "sudo aptitude install irssi irssi-scripts screen openssh-server" and it says it cant find it05:04
MTughan!topic, diabolix05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic, diabolix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:05
MTughanDamn you...05:05
ianm_axjv: try gnumeric ?05:05
cdm10shoot05:05
serenityUK#ubuntu-release-party05:05
sandrotjust did an update, looks like my grub menu.lst file was overridden, did ubuntu make a backup?05:05
cdm10!topic | diabolix05:05
ubotudiabolix: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:05
hakancenubuntu 7.10 linkkkk ???????????05:05
MTughanYeah, just looked it up.05:05
cdm10!topic | hakancen05:05
ubotuhakancen: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:05
riotkittieif youre looking for a download link, it does not exist at the present time as it has not been released, hakancen05:06
code48flannel i tried that command and it returned E: Couldn't find package irssi05:06
Sherlockubuntu could use a floppy install05:06
MTughanriotkittie: 7.10 RC is still available.05:06
axjvOr, if anyone can help me make a chart like this: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Image:ProgrammingLanguage2s.png05:06
Flannelcode48: Are you connected to the internet?  Have you done an apt-get update?05:06
code48yes im connected. do i just type apt-get?05:07
riotkittieMTughan: it is not.05:07
axjvI have the program, but I don't know how to make it that smooth looking.05:07
Flannelcode48: if you have, and you still don't have irssi, your sources.list is messed up, and we'll have to fix it.05:07
code48i just installed ubuntu05:07
Flannelcode48: sudo apt-get update05:07
d|vi figure if there are any changes when the final release is out they will have an update for people with the rc05:07
Flannelcode48: ah, thats the reason then05:07
MTughanOh... I thought it was.05:07
riotkittieMTughan: unless one wants to grab it from a place other than the official site05:07
SeparCan anybody help with the busybox error when I try and boot from the live CD: "/bin/sh: Can't access tty; job control turned off"?05:07
code48okay im downloading some stuff it looks like05:07
MTughanIf you can find a TORRENT file, BitTorrent should still have it.05:07
Meshezabeelaxjv, openoffice?05:07
hakancenneyse sanırım herzamanki gibi bilen yok herkes bir birine küfretmekten cevap verme nezaketini bösteremiyor galiba vazgeçtim bende05:07
Flannelcode48: what its doing is getting a list of available packages from the repositories.  Afte this, you can install irssi with the previous command05:08
PovAddictgoing to sleep...05:08
cdm10!en | hakancen05:08
ubotuhakancen: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat05:08
axjvMeshezabeel: I have 2.3, just don't know how to make charts look like that.05:08
Ryuhogo split!05:08
Meshezabeelaxjv: what's so special about that chart, looks ordinary to me05:08
mobileikeuhm...05:08
MTughanNo, I don't think it was a split...05:08
pachy:S05:08
pachyham?05:08
JimbHave to remember which keyboard i'm on b4 i alt ctl bksp05:08
mobileikeso. when does official 7.10 hit?05:08
axjvMeshezabeel: Mine look really tacky.05:09
MTughan!topic | mobileike05:09
ubotumobileike: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:09
DMLouok... I give up on wifi05:09
DShepherdmobileike, #ubuntu-release-party05:09
code48terrific! thanks flannel!05:09
Eastin24Hi, when can I download the gutsy gibbon?05:09
Meshezabeelaxjv: look at all the options, and make sure you set to a decent size05:09
MTughanEastin24: #ubuntu-release-party05:09
techjimanyone know how to turn compiz off on 7.10?  my legacy nvidia card is really making this desktop strange05:09
axjvMeshezabeel: The lines are really jagged...05:09
hakancenneyin ne olduğunu senden iyi bilirim hava atmanıza gerek yok ingilizce bilsem sanırım sorardım ukalalığas gerek yok05:09
sandrotlol oh yeah, guess it's the 18th eh?05:10
MTughan!en | hakancen05:10
riotkittiei take that back. rc is still available but it takes a bit of looking for05:10
ubotuhakancen: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat05:10
marx2kYeah... I wonder if I just need to do a dist-upgrade or what05:10
riotkittieits still the 17th in some parts of the world.05:10
IRKempotechjim: look under System>prefs>appearance05:10
MTughan18th just hit EST>05:10
iss_studentHow come Ubuntu+1 is directing to here?05:10
MTughanProbably because Gutsy is so close to release.05:10
cafuegobecause Gutsy is so close to release05:10
MTughanHey, I just said that.05:11
JimbIt is 18 th in south africa05:11
MTughanThe only people left in the 17th are the central and western Americas.05:11
shekharit's the 18th in most of the world except the midwest and california05:11
Fracturewhen will zfs be available in ubuntu ?05:11
shekharyeah05:11
iss_studentI'm in Utah it's still the 17th lol05:11
adminnwhy isnt my floppy drive access working I never used it before in dapper drake05:12
MTughanThat's central/western America, iss_student.05:12
shekharwhy are we waiting for the west coast, isn't ubuntu HQ in london?05:12
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rredd4hawaii has 5 more hours until the 18th05:12
soneiltimezones are irrelevant .. no-one promised it'd appear at midnight, and no-one expects real geeks to keep office hours.  it'll happen when it's ready05:12
hidox_ubntu ultimate   any know it ?05:12
genii16 minutes into the 18th for me LOL05:12
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cdm10hidox_: yeah, it's a crappy derivative... not official.05:12
MTughanIt's 7 hours until the whole earth is in the 18th.05:12
hakancenukalalar05:13
MTughangenii: Oh, so you're in EDT too.05:13
un1x01dwho cares about the rest of the world ?:)05:13
Jordan_UFracture, Probably the release after Sun has released it under GPL v3 and Linux is also licensed under GPL v3 ( which may be never )05:13
adminnultimate isnt supported05:13
geniiI noticed they moved RC out of the repos.05:13
geniiMTughan: Yup, in Toronto05:13
MTughangenii: Holy cow, ditto.05:13
adminnhow do I get my floppy disk drive to work in ubuntu dapper drake?05:13
MTughanBrampton to be specific.05:13
cdm10genii: what do you mean?05:13
iss_studentI'm already running RC so I'll just run updates lol05:14
hidox_ultimate is no more supported ?05:14
Jordan_Uhidox_, Never was05:14
geniicdm10: I mean http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ is empty05:14
cdm10ah.05:14
MTughanHey, achievement for open-source. OS X Leopard will natively support ODF like it does PDF.05:14
hidox_I am some new05:14
un1x01di run fiesty on desktop and gusty on lap tribe 5 , can't wait to upgrade05:14
Jordan_Uhidox_, It's a poor hack and is not officially affiliated with Ubuntu, just based on it05:14
hidox_then I Ask05:15
hidox_what is the best way to install packages in ubuntu ??05:15
lapapt-get05:15
hidox_ok05:15
laphidox_05:15
iss_studentSynaptic05:15
Jordan_Uhidox_, Applications -> Add / Remove05:15
hidox_I know it05:15
MTughanOr the GUI in GNOME.05:15
MTughanSynaptic...05:15
lapnothing's better than apt-get05:15
Dan_hi, i hate to be a bother but can anyone answer a quick question for me?05:16
hidox_I know05:16
adminnI created an ubuntu tutorial thats in the howto and I cant even mount my floppy drive lmao05:16
lapDan_: ask.05:16
Jordan_Uhidox_,  Or System -> Administration -> Synaptic for non GUI packages05:16
WaltzingAlong!ask | dan_05:16
geniiInteresting. My local repos has it05:16
ubotudan_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:16
CITguyactually, i would suggest against the GNOME Gui to install/remove05:16
Jordan_Uhidox_, Or apt-get if you prefer the terminal05:16
WaltzingAlong!floppy05:16
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone05:16
Dan_i was just wondering if there is a way to reinstall feisty fawn, i would like to start from scratch05:16
Jordan_UCITguy, Why?05:16
adminnheres the tut if you want to see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53649105:16
CITguyi've had problems with broken packages that I was unable to fix because of the GNOME gui05:16
adminnty05:16
hidox_for example  ,I want to install  windows font s ?05:16
oSiBoWhat's up everyone ?05:16
Jordan_UDan_, Same way you installed it in the first place :)05:17
MTughanJust repartition the disk.05:17
iss_studentYea Dan just run the install and format the partions05:17
WaltzingAlong!fonts05:17
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer05:17
oSiBoI have a question for anone that use BackupPC with Ubuntu.05:17
CITguyhidox_: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts05:17
Dan_do i have to delete the partition or anything?05:17
Dankchildhey guys i have a webcam that worked on vista fine but when i switched i dont know how to install the drivers, what should i do?05:17
MTughanYou should just be able to reformat it.05:17
Jordan_Uhidox_, System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager05:17
iss_studentDan You can format the partion05:17
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nicleWill 7.10 jump ticket???05:17
BLeSTvista > *          lol j/k05:17
tonyyarussoDan_: That will be done within the installation process05:18
t3318hi05:18
Alexduffwhere is it!!!05:18
AlexduffWTF!?05:18
MTughanVista is a piece of sh*t, no questions asked.05:18
t3318anyone know how to lock the icons on desktop?05:18
MTughanAlexduff: #ubuntu-release-party05:18
hidox_what is your opinion about  automatix ??05:18
Dankchildhands down05:18
cdm10!automatix | hidox_05:18
cdm10hidox_: don't use it.05:18
cdm10!offtopic | MTughan05:18
Jordan_Uhidox_, Or in a terminal " sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"05:18
WaltzingAlong!automatix05:18
hidox_ok ?05:18
Dankchildbut how do i get my webcam to work?05:18
ubotuhidox_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:18
Dan_ok so basically throw my cd in and go from there?05:18
ubotuMTughan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:18
rredd4rc installed here, what should I do to get final release?05:18
cdm10MTughan: sorry if you weren't being ot05:18
hidox_ok05:18
cdm10rredd4: it'll just go to final.05:18
rredd4when it comes out05:19
iss_studentYup Dan that is pretty mch it05:19
WaltzingAlongrredd4: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -y safe-upgrade05:19
hidox_then05:19
MTughancdm10: Yeah, someone had mentioned Vista.05:19
Jordan_Urredd4, It will update automatically05:19
soctu*yawn*05:19
joulesDankchild: it should work05:19
cdm10rredd4: it'll just update to it. Nothing special.05:19
joulesDankchild: on ubuntu you dont need to install it05:19
rredd4ty05:19
MTughanConsidering we may be comparing Ubuntu and Vista, that comment may be appropriate.05:19
nicleWill Gutsy jump ticket today?????05:19
Dankchildlike it recognises it, theres just no image?05:19
CITguyhidox_: I would also advise against automatix for the same reason. Automatix is not fully supported by Ubuntu and can result in broken packages. Your best bet would be to use the command line "apt-get" or the GUI "synaptic"05:19
Dan_ok thanks guys im gonna give this a shot05:19
hidox_the best is use  the proper tool in ubuntu  ,like synaptic ,apt ,etc05:19
wastedfluiddoes anyone know the official time they are releasing the official 7.10 .iso ?05:19
cdm10!topic | wastedfluid05:19
ubotuwastedfluid: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:19
hidox_?05:19
* nesl247 wishes steam / cs:cz worked better in wine so I could scrap vista on my laptop.05:19
kahrytanhidox_, You don't need automatix or easyubuntu.05:20
wastedfluidSweet.05:20
wastedfluidI never read topics, as you can tell.05:20
BLeSTif it doesnt come out soon im going to hang myself05:20
wastedfluidbut you could have just said "read the topic"05:20
lapgutsy final has been released ?05:20
MTughanI'm thinking 11PM PDT.05:20
cdm10wastedfluid: or I could have said !topic. I chose the latter.05:20
wastedfluidcdm10: Whatever.  Be a dick.05:20
marx2kseems like no one reads the topics :)05:20
tonyyarussolap: #ubuntu-release-party05:20
wastedfluidkudos anyway05:20
wastedfluidlater :-)05:20
MTughanlap: Not yet.05:20
Jimdbthat update-manager -d really messed up dependencies on that install.  get a use dpkg --configure -a to resolve but there are just too many dependencies messed up to resolve it totally.05:20
joulesBLeST: i agree with you05:20
lapMTughan: ok.05:20
hidox_ok ,the soft installed is possible to be installed  by simple ways !05:21
MTughan11PM PDT... That's 7AM GMT.05:21
MTughanWait, 6AM. My bad.05:21
Jordan_UJimb, There is always a way :)05:21
hidox_it was interasting to see the script used to install all of them !05:21
Jimdbnot like they can do much in an hour or two.  might as well open the flood gates now05:21
Jimdbyeah, i will be wiping it and starting over05:21
rredd4ubuntu+1 is not there?05:21
MTughanThey could be bringing more servers online.05:22
willwilljoin #ubuntu+105:22
willwilljoin #ubuntu+105:22
cdm10willwill: first of all, you mean /join. Second of all, #u+1 is gone05:22
alii want my gutsy dvd image!05:22
MTughanrredd4: No, because Gutsy is so close to release.05:22
seamus7willwill: i think ubuntu+1 is now just ubuntu, yes?05:22
Jordan_Uwillwill, It's being redirected to here, and you forgot the / :)05:22
joulesthis is so annoying... i waited till midnight to download it ...05:22
willwillcdm10$ yes, sorry i forgot /05:22
willwillJordan_U$ thank you05:22
willwillcdm10$ thank you05:22
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joulesare you guys sure the final release is not out yet? my comp says its upgrading to 7.10 but it doesnt say RC or beta or anything like that05:23
MTughancdm10: u+1 is gone for good, or just until they start developing the next version?05:23
Jimdbmy comcast ISP seems to be blocking or slowing down my bittorrent; even for legit stuff like this.05:23
rredd4MTughan  ok... got this when I typed join ubuntu+1    #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu :Forwarding to another channel05:23
seamus7ali: I downloaded the rc iso and burned it to a dvd ... does that count?05:23
riotkittieno reason to be annoyed. nobody promised it would be out at midnight.05:23
MTughanjoules: Not according to the site.05:23
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cdm10rob: perhaps the gutsy stuff should be moved to the beginning?05:23
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Jordan_Ujoules, It is released when it is released, nothing changes about the binaries when they announce it,05:23
* rob shrugs05:23
riotkittieyes, we are sure it is not out yet, joules.05:24
willwillsomeone know how to detect beta version? like is i'm using rc or beta?05:24
joulesMTughan: but the site says 00 days left! ... uh so what am i downloading right now.... oh ok05:24
sainzeohey all, after installing the nvidia drivers with Envy, i am getting glx missing on display errors - any ideas?05:24
seamus7Ok ... I'm on Gutsy .... why does the Dicitonary Applet in the panel buggin out ... it doesn't allow text entry.05:24
MTughan00 days left is according to your system clock.05:24
robsome mirrors may have it already, but it is not officially out yet05:24
caneri think it would be a good idea to build a bot which answers faq to users who do not like reading much.05:24
MTughanTrue..05:24
cdm10!bot | caner05:24
ubotucaner: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:24
robcaner, like ubotu?05:24
riotkittiei think it would be good if people stopped being lazy.05:24
cdm10like ubotu, but automated?05:24
MTughanNo, probably some bot that could take a lot of abuse.05:25
seamus7Also ... I'm on Gutsy ... anyone think Deskbar is overkill and that Tracker is more useful if you just use it as a stand alone through the Accessories menu?05:25
canerrob :) wow there are cleverer than me :P05:25
canerthey are i mean05:25
BUDD}{Ahi can someone give me a link to download 7.1005:25
novacheckanyone know any good sites for setting up SSH05:25
MTughanI could build something like that in Java in a few days.05:25
aliCanonical, release the gutsy! <distros without borders>05:25
slapfacewaresafari on windows is nice!05:25
MTughanBUDD}{A: Not released yet.05:25
* riotkittie waits for her head to explode05:25
cdm10BUDD}{A: no, we can't because it's not out yet. REad the topic.05:25
* riotkittie flees05:25
Jordan_Unovacheck, The official Ubuntu documentation :)05:25
BUDD}{Ak05:25
* willwill operation cwal05:25
newguywhat the hell man! its 5:25pm October 18th Thursday right now where i am (new zealand) and gutsy still isnt available in the repos!??05:25
logreevalfor some reason one gutsy machine i have doesnt show a boot up screen (splash screen?) does anyone know how to fix it?05:25
phoch_I have a question about SSH and keypairs05:26
sainzeohey all, after installing the nvidia drivers with Envy, i am getting glx missing on display errors - any ideas?05:26
Sherlockphoch_:  yea?05:26
luchandybuntu05:26
MTughannewguy: I think they're releasing it at 11PM PDT, which is 6AM GMT.05:26
Asathoormy old hoary mashine cannot detect a usb mouse - how can I fix it?05:26
cdm10sainzeo: why with envy? Ubuntu does it for you, the proper way...05:26
joulesuh,,, what time is it in england?05:26
phoch_i have it working correctly to access my ubuntu machine as a "server"05:26
cdm10MTughan: read the topic, it may be released at any time.05:26
MTughanThat's my guess.05:26
Jordan_Unovacheck, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto05:26
un1x01dsad, i can't setup a freakin xinerama on 3 monitors05:26
sainzeocdm10, i attempted to do it through ubuntu as well and encountered the same problem05:26
phoch_I have another server and I want my ubuntu machine to be a client05:26
phoch_how do I add another key ?05:27
donogameelhey does anyone know when Gutsy is going to be available?05:27
Sherlock4:2605:27
cdm10Feisty was released at somethnig like 9 in the morning EST, so don't hold your breath05:27
MTughancdm10: That's not based on any hard knowledge.05:27
cdm10!topic | donogameel05:27
ubotudonogameel: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:27
un1x01dand if i use twinview, while the 3rd mon is pluugged in everything gets mad stretched on the other 205:27
cashroxi want gutsy so bad05:27
[chr0n0s]!mark05:27
ubotuMark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com05:27
aliIs Ubuntu upgraded to GPLv3?05:27
MTughancdm10: Do you have a command for !topic or something?05:27
cdm10MTughan: no, I just type fast :)05:27
cdm10I should, though.05:27
donogameelSorry - I'm in Australia so I have no idea what time it is in your country05:27
sunilonlnwould i lose anything by forcing an upgrade to gutsy right now, or should i wait until it officially releases?05:27
logreevalno one knows about boot screen?05:27
cdm10MTughan: I need a bunch of buttons on my client to send things like !topic, etc.05:28
willwillhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/gutsy-desktop-i386.iso <- is this ALMOST gutsy?05:28
MTughandonogameel: What country are you talking about?05:28
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Jordan_Uali, That question does not make sense, Ubuntu consists of many packages all under their ow licenses ( Though mostly GPL )05:28
foxrayare gutsy gibbon versions of kubuntu xubuntu also going to be released with gutsy?05:28
joulesUHH it better be out by the time i wake up ... either way im excited for gutsy but .. .really its nothing we have not had before .. yeah it is a bit easier to do some things but idk... the beta crashed my comp .. so05:28
joulesi guess i have ambivalent feelings towards it05:28
donogameelMTughan: wherever Ubuntu is being released from05:28
riotkittieyes, foxray05:28
alisorry05:28
Jordan_Ufoxray, Yes05:28
foxraysweet05:28
Cheetahfolks, I debootstrapped a feisty system to an usb stick and I'd like to use that on a little system (x86). unfortunately the system uses up 450 MB so far (no software installed) What can I possibly delete/optimize to safe space?05:28
Artemis3the ones in the official torrent tracker, aside from having funny names, are release.05:28
MTughandonogameel: No one knows that.05:28
nooobydoes thunar have network samba capabilties like nautilus?05:29
zrkchinese05:29
donogameelwell what time is it right now in the US?05:29
TuxOtakuhey, what time is gutsy officially being released????05:29
soneil[Gutsy]willwill: current = daily.  so it's likely close, but it's not a release.  you'll know when it's released. people will mention it05:29
TuxOtakuEST05:29
foxrayi meant at the same time gutsy comes out05:29
cdm10!topic | TuxOtaku05:29
ubotuTuxOtaku: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:29
rredd4The new Ubuntu release, Gutsy Gibbon, will arrive when Canonical is ready to distribute it.  Please be patient.  Thank you05:29
Jordan_UCheetah, Have you setup a swap file / partition ?05:29
TuxOtakuoops05:29
MTughandonogameel: New York, 12:30AM.05:29
TuxOtakusorry05:29
Asathooranyone here who knows how to detect a mouse?05:29
cdm10noooby: Probably not, I doubt it supports gnome-vfs.05:29
CheetahJordan_U, no, I don't have a swap partition05:29
Dankchildlol05:29
Artemis3soneil, just did05:29
foxraypart05:29
riotkittie12am on the east coast, 9pm on the west, god-knows-what in hawaii05:29
AlexJTannerI have a question05:29
cdm10noooby: and if you're using xfce, even nautilus won't support it.05:29
Nukedanyone know if there is a 64 bit package for jriddles kopete fix?05:29
Davy_JonesUbuntu Gutsy will be released last week05:30
nooobycdm10: so i guess i should just use linneighborhood if i'm using xfce ?05:30
MTughandonogameel: Any place on the west coast, say LA or SF, 10:30PM.05:30
rocketsis there a kde4 metapackage?05:30
AlexJTannerwhen exactly is ubunutu 7.10 come out05:30
cdm10noooby: Not sure what that is, sorry.05:30
CheetahJordan_U, basically, there are a lot of tools/apps/libs in the system that are possible not needed (take aptitude for example) and I'd like to get rid of them, leaving me with a really really minimal system05:30
AlexJTannerin UTC05:30
cdm10!topic | AlexJTanner05:30
ubotuAlexJTanner: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:30
Jimdbwow, i'm amazed my other ubuntu box is up after doing the update-manager -d.  first a kernel panic on reboot after the update, then all the dependency errors, and now I see it can't access the network.  I'm just amazed it is up at all.05:30
lancaster!topics05:30
Jordan_U!topic | AlexJTanner05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:30
MasterShrekrockets, kdebase-workspace05:30
donogameelI hope Gutsy will be available tomorrow05:30
[Gutsy]willwill!time utc05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about time utc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:30
Davy_JonesAlexJTanner: Ubuntu Gutsy will be out last week05:30
MTughancdm10: I still don't know how you type so fast.05:30
[Gutsy]willwill!date utc05:30
MasterShrekdonogameel, it will be05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about date utc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:30
rocketsMasterShrek, isnt that of kde305:30
cdm10MTughan: not sure...05:30
AlexJTannerok sorry05:30
Colin-AltCan someone help me with installing 7.04?05:30
cdm10Colin-Alt: wait a few hours, the next version will come out :)05:31
riotkittieColin-Alt: what do you need help with?05:31
Davy_Jonesdonogameel: it will be available last week05:31
star1Does anyone here have any suggestions for how to get my gamepad (nyko AIRFLO) working?  I have jscalibrator, which seems to detect it fine, but mupen doesn't seem to recognize the existence of it.05:31
Artemis3maybe there should be #ubuntu-105:31
[Gutsy]willwillsorry, how to view time in another timezone with ubotu ? i see someone use it in #ubuntu-meeting05:31
fastlast week????05:31
MasterShrekrockets, check out kubuntu.com05:31
Jordan_UArtemis3, #ubuntu-release-party05:31
Davy_Jonesi'm downloading fiesty atm05:31
Colin-Altwhen I go to install it i press the install option05:31
Colin-Altthen it goes to the next screen05:31
Colin-Altflashes white05:31
TuxOtakuwhat are the odds I'll break my installation if i do an update to gutsy via the repos???05:31
Artemis3Jordan_U, they kicked and banned me already :P05:31
Davy_Jones#ubuntu-release-party is a mess05:31
Colin-Altand the nothing, the monitor looses signal05:31
cdm10Davy_Jones: yes, but that's OT05:31
rskTuxOtaku: 0 to 100000000005:32
foxrayhow many discs is gutsy gibbon? 1 CDR? 1 DVDR?05:32
Davy_Jonescdm10: what's OT?05:32
cdm10foxray: 105:32
rskfoxray: 1 cdr05:32
cdm10Davy_Jones: offtopic05:32
Jordan_UDavy_Jones, That's the point, without it *this* channel would be more of a mess :)05:32
Artemis3Jordan_U, they are evil05:32
foxrayah okay i gotta go get a CDR05:32
canerthey must have taken into consideration that all ubuntu users are very feverish people so they will not take it long for release i think. nobody has waited for vista like that.05:32
foxrayno media05:32
MasterShrekfoxray, one cd or one dvd05:32
riotkittieColin-Alt: try it in safe graphics mode. you may have to use the alternate CD, though :|05:32
Davy_Jonesgutsy will be 1 CD-RW05:32
axjvDoes anyone know of applications that make the nicest looking pie charts?05:32
star1Does anyone here have any suggestions for how to get my gamepad (nyko AIRFLO) working?  I have jscalibrator, which seems to detect it fine, but mupen doesn't seem to recognize the existence of it.05:32
Eastin24How can i get pidgin to display forein text such as japanese, chinese and korean?05:32
Colin-AltItried it in safe graphic mode but it did nothing05:32
cdm10Colin-Alt: If it weren't release day for the next version, I'd tell you to download the Alternate CD, which tends to work better on some hardware. However, in a few hours the next version (7.10) of Ubuntu will come out, and I recommend you try that.05:32
MTughanaxjv: OOo05:32
Davy_JonesJordan_U: i hear ya05:32
adlisyakirit's ubuntu 7.10 already realease?05:33
[Gutsy]willwilladlisyakir$ no05:33
MasterShrekadlisyakir, read the topic05:33
axjvMTughan: The charts I tried to make weren't very good... Can you point me to a tutorial?05:33
riotkittieno. ubuntu 7.10 has not been released.05:33
Colin-Altwhere is the alternate cd located?05:33
Jordan_UArtemis3, They don't kick people for nothing, it's your fault, clam down, be patient and just wait untill the release is announced05:33
Davy_Jonesadlisyakir: it will be released last week05:33
Davy_Jonesadlisyakir: so wait05:33
MTughanaxjv: I don't know of any myself, but Google should help.05:33
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djretiefdoes anyone know what time it is going to be released?05:33
MasterShreklol Davy_Jones05:33
caneris there anyone weeping out there?05:33
MTughandjretief: No.05:33
MasterShrekdjretief, no05:33
[Gutsy]willwillthis morning(in my timezone) i see a sneak peak of new site, it have js animation and update page changed05:33
rocketsMasterShrek, will this create a session i can login to?05:33
Davy_Jonesdjretief: i told you last week, so be patient05:33
djretiefalright thanks05:33
djretiefwhat time is it in the US?05:34
MTughan12:30AM in NY.05:34
CITguy12:34 EST05:34
Codymandjretief: 9:3005:34
Artemis3Jordan_U, torrents are about letting many people use them, unlike talking about pool which i didn't :P05:34
rocketsdjretief, depends on the timezone. its 12:34 EST05:34
eulogy_11:33 C05:34
Davy_JonesMasterShrek: it doesn't stop so you should make fun of it05:34
MasterShrekrockets, check out kubuntu.com and hit the link they have there for kde4 beta305:34
underwatercow21.30 on the Pacific05:34
Colin-Altcdm10: when using the alternate cd is there anything special i have to do?05:34
Codymandjretief: 9:30 in the west coast PST05:34
chetnickany good VPN clients for ubuntu05:34
chetnick?05:34
dsmith__chetnick: Hamachi VPN05:34
Davy_Joneswhat's a VPN client?05:34
dsmith__chetnick: OPENvpn05:34
underwatercowHamachi rocks05:34
Eastin24How can i get pidgin to display foreign text such as japanese, chinese and korean?05:34
rocketsubuntu.com now says 0 days to go!05:34
djretiefah yup, I imagine it will probably be released at 12am in some part of the US :)05:34
MasterShreki supposed Davy_Jones, i just poked my nose back in here, and all i see is "when" "what time"05:34
cdm10Colin-Alt: It's text-only, so it's a little harder to install. But, like I said, 7.04 will be obsolete in a few hours.05:34
monkey_instinctubuntu 7.10 is out?05:34
Fujitsumonkey_instinct: No.05:34
chetnickdsmith__: thanks05:34
MTughanDavy_Jones: Virtual Private Network.05:34
[Gutsy]willwill!topic | monkey_instinct05:35
ubotumonkey_instinct: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:35
MasterShrekmonkey_instinct, yes, it was last week05:35
bbbyEastin24: try #pidgin05:35
Davy_Jonesok05:35
Jordan_UEastin24, If you speak them the best place to ask would probably be in the ubuntu channels for those languages05:35
Davy_JonesUBUNTU GUTSY AKA 7.10 IS NOT OUT AND NO WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE05:35
Colin-Altcdm10: but wont i be able to update it via ap-get update & upgrade? or will it be a whole nother 700megs?05:35
djretieflol did they think they would have it released last week?05:35
Jimdbi don't see hamachi in synaptic package manager.05:35
Jordan_UEastin24, With another client of course :)05:35
fast00 days to go, did i miss something or i dont understand english, why is beta now? guys, pls enlight me, i wait for release from last 3 days05:35
canerhow much time is there for the furthest west of u.s. to be 12.00 does anybody know that?05:36
cdm10Colin-Alt: you'll be able to upgrade, but generally you shouldn't do it with apt-get... there's a built-in tool for doing it that does it the proper way.05:36
MTughanfast: That time is based on your computer's time.05:36
djretief0 days + ?? hours05:36
Davy_Jonesfast: it has to read -01 days to go05:36
cdm10!topic | fast05:36
ubotufast: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:36
MTughancaner: 3 hours.05:36
cdm10Colin-Alt: But, like I said, it may work better in the next version of the CD... so hang in there.05:36
Colin-Altcdm10: will it be a 700 Mb download? Or just a smaller update?05:36
Jordan_Ucaner, It doesn't matter, that has no bearing on the release time, just wait05:36
spenserMy mouse is currently not working,  nor any mouse i plug in.  This is on a Gutsy Laptop with a synaptics touchpad and several external mice.05:36
cdm10Colin-Alt: probably pretty big, but you won't have to burn it.05:36
Davy_Jonesit should read -01 days, then it will be releasexc05:36
Davy_Jonesreleased05:36
canerJordan_U : i know just a hope05:36
spenseranyone know why this is?05:37
MTughanIt is being released on the 18th, right?05:37
stray77does using restricted mode drivers and desktop effect screw up desktop sharing?05:37
cafuegoMTughan: maybe.05:37
djretiefIm pretty excited about the release, Ive played with the betas, it looks really good :)05:37
novacheckwhen i go to the site it reads 00 days until gutsy release05:37
canerMTughan, is it washington state, california ?05:37
Davy_Joneswhy don't you watch some compiz-fusion videos on youtube till it comes out.. you know, just to pass on time05:37
novacheckbut still no link to download it05:37
canerMTughan westest part i mean05:37
Colin-Altcdm10: Ok, I think I will go ahead and download the alternate so I have something to do for the next hour or so, also, I got 5.1 to install, is there a way to update to 7.04 without booting from the CD?05:37
djretief00 days + ?? hours + ?? min + ?? seconds05:37
chetnickdsmith__: these are the VPN servers, i need vpn client05:37
MTughancaner: Washington State and Calif are in the same timezone.05:38
dWhopatience patience my minions we shall rule the world bwahahahahahahah !05:38
dsmith__chetnick: they have cleints as well05:38
dsmith__hamachi is both05:38
dsmith__so is openvpn05:38
xTheGoat121xHi all05:38
canerMTughan and its the furthest west huh?05:38
xTheGoat121xI have returned05:38
cdm10Colin-Alt: from 5.10, you'd have to do a full update 3 times (you can only go to the next release with the updater, you can't skip releases)05:38
Davy_Jonesevery Windows gets delayed by months, so don't expect it to be released tomorrow so you don't get disappointed05:38
djretiefhello05:38
cdm10Colin-Alt: so I recommend using the CD.-05:38
dWhotoday our pc's tomorow the world's pcs05:38
MTughancaner: Yes, PDT is as far west as the US goes, not including Hawaii.05:38
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canerMTughan sorr for my ignorange i live in turkey, really far05:38
MTughancaner: That's fine. You're understandable.05:39
soulwarpso....gutsy better tan feisty?05:39
dWhoit think they're preparing it... that's why it's delayed...05:39
FlannelColin-Alt: If you upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06, you'll be able to upgrade straight (from 6.06) to 8.04 in six months though.05:39
MTughansoulwarp: Should be. That's why it's a new release.05:39
canersoulwarp : thats the best question of the day i think05:39
djretiefwe need spys on the inside so we can ask ubuntu guys when theyre gonna click go on the iso copy :P05:39
MTughanVery true...05:39
xTheGoat121x..... how difficult would the upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy be?  And is it worth it?05:39
fastomg, lets hope will be released today, i cant wait anymore.. i am looking at my new computer case...05:40
novacheckhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/05:40
dWhogood question... that's i'd like to know tooo05:40
djretiefits fine if you havent got weird repos and yes its definatly worth it05:40
Colin-Altcdm10: Thanks man, you've been really helpful. Now I have to go back and install 5.1 so I can boot back into windows because I used the Windows fixbmr and now it won't let me boot back into it05:40
adminncya05:40
Davy_JonesxTheGoat121x: watch the new features page of gutsy05:40
adminnty guys :D05:40
novacheckjust keep tapping F5 until you see it their...lol05:40
cdm10Colin-Alt: oh man, that's a mess05:40
dsmith__lmao05:40
MTughanF5 would be a FF keystroke?05:40
caner:)05:40
Davy_Jonesman, this channel is becoming more like #ubuntu-release-party05:40
Flannel!f5 | novacheck05:40
ubotunovacheck: Remember that every time you hit refresh, Canonical is wasting money, bandwidth, and CPU time serving your request instead of doing useful things like uploading the image or paying for ShipIt disks.  Please do so sparingly.05:40
Davy_Jonesit's right thurrrr05:40
dasKreechHello05:41
MTughanDavy_Jones: Still not as much as a cess pool as that.05:41
dasKreechIs this still the Gutsy chan ?05:41
MTughandasKreech: In a sense.05:41
novacheckanyone know of a tool to reset your battery on your notebook05:41
Colin-Altcdm10: Yeah, it sucks... hopefully installing GRUB will let me boot back into Windows05:41
dasKreechMTughan: More yes than no?05:41
FlanneldasKreech: This is now the gutsy (support) channel, yes.  Festivities in #ubuntu-release-party05:41
graftis Xgl standard for gutsy?05:41
caneri think they have forgotten to put gnome2.2 in it so trying to change it at the very last minute.05:41
dasKreechFlannel: thanks05:41
Jordan_Ugraft, No, but it's easy to install05:41
Davy_Jonesnovacheck: check the manual that comes with your notebook05:41
novacheckdid the beta have gnome 2.2?05:41
Jordan_Ugraft, Just install the xserver-xgl package, no setup scripts required05:42
graftwell, i don't recall ever installing it, but it seems to have been installed05:42
xTheGoat121xLMAO @ forgot GNOME 2.205:42
WhiteNailsWHen will ubuntu 7.1005:42
[Gutsy]willwill!topic | WhiteNails05:42
ubotuWhiteNails: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:42
MTughanOh, this is rather sad. Two M$ licenses got open-source approval.05:42
Oli``MTughan: why's that sad?05:43
MTughanIt's M$!05:43
wile_e8I just upgraded to gutsy, I think XGL is eating all of my cpu.  I was running Beryl with AIGLX on Feisty, but had issues with XGL back then too.  Is there a way to fix this?05:43
Davy_Joneswhen will gnome 2.2 be out? :D05:43
xTheGoat121xWhiteNails, you can always press Alt-F4... that'll tell you when it's released05:43
ixian_hi, i'm running the gutsy release candidate, and i'm wondering how you make more workspaces when the desktop cube is enabled? when i rotate the 'cube' its actually not a cube at all, its a 2-sided flat thing. im assuming i need to increase the # of workspaces but i cant seem to do it.05:43
Oli``urgh, get a real argument05:43
BLeSTthey met the criteria..05:43
Fade2Blacis there any program that will find wifi siginals on my laptop05:43
MTughanxTheGoat121x: lol05:43
IpMooBetahumm05:43
MasterShrekwile_e8, dont use it, thatll solve ur problems :)05:43
WhiteNailsDo people still fall for the alt-f4 thing?05:44
Oli``ixian_: right click the little panel app showing desktops, go to preferences and up the number05:44
wile_e8MasterShrek: how do I disable it?  Uninstall in synaptic?05:44
tovellaMTughan: It would actually be great if they were to open-source windows xp, but that's a completely different topic.05:44
riotkittieixian_: install compizconfig-settings-manager, go to the general tab. alternately, look under Appearance in System05:44
AnAntHello, how can i know what font is currently  being used by the console ?05:44
MasterShrekwile_e8, how did u enable it? do it in reverse05:44
riotkittieOli``: that doesnt work when compiz is on in gutsy05:44
MTughantovella: Better than if they open-sourced Vista, but we're OT.05:44
MasterShrekwile_e8, you need to go to your compiz settings and add desktops that way05:44
xTheGoat121xWhiteNails, who knows?  I remember lots of people used to fall for it05:44
Oli``riotkittie: it does. I'm on gutsy05:44
teKnofreakixian_, i read somewhere its not the real cube in compiz-fusion05:44
wile_e8MasterShrek: I didn't, it just came with the dist upgrade05:45
riotkittieixian_: i think you need CCSM to turn cube on05:45
tovellaMTughan: scared of vista - too many problems to fix.05:45
riotkittieOli``: guess they fixed it at some point, then05:45
MTughanThree options: stick with XP, move fully to Linux, or get a Mac.05:45
Fade2Blacdoes ubuntu find wireless networks automatically?05:45
BLeSTlol i use all 305:45
xTheGoat121x<<< avoids Mac, but uses all those others05:45
MTughanBLeST: All three of the options I said?05:45
BLeSTyea05:45
MasterShrekFade2Blac, it should assuming you have your card working correctly05:46
anolis_I was wondering if anyone has had any success getting packet injection to work using the bcm4306 chipset (Dell 1350 PCMCIA card)05:46
Fade2Blacok thx05:46
ixian_okay, I have CCSM already, and the problem is that when the desktop effects are enabled, i cant choose the number of workspaces the normal way, it doesnt let me05:46
IpMooBetahumm05:46
MTughanxTheGoat121x: Yeah, sticking with those three for now. I have a copy of Vista, but I haven't worked up the nerver to install it yet.05:46
Davy_Jonesyou don't really need a mac, what you need is either windows or linux05:46
MasterShrekixian_, i just have one desktop enabled the normal way, and i made 4 desktops in ccsm05:46
tovellaMTughan: i love ubuntu linux... if i could afford a mac, i would run ubuntu side-by side with macosx05:46
Davy_Jonesbut that's OT05:46
riotkittieixian_: load CCSM > go to the General Options. change it there.05:46
t3318anyone know how to lock the icons on desktop?05:46
MTughanI have a Mac. On it right now.05:46
BLeSTMTughan -  yeah i use a mac, windows and linux at home and at work05:46
xTheGoat121xMTughan, yeah, i have the copy of Vista that came with my notebook... and right now I have no interest in it.05:46
MTughanWe should make a new channel...05:47
ixian_riotkittie: i tried and the 'cube' is still 2-sided :(05:47
MTughan#wehatevista05:47
Acousty1so whats the deal with gutsy05:47
xTheGoat121xMTughan, I'll probably install it on a 3rd partition on my tower sometime, just so I can relate to my customers05:47
Acousty1is it out now stable?05:47
kena123Acousty1: tomorrow05:47
xTheGoat121xMTughan, that's a REALLY good idea.... I'd chat there.05:47
Davy_Jonesi don't want to pay for vista when i get a new notebook, would'nt wanna spend money on something i won't be using05:47
Acousty1so its not a 12:00 release?05:48
riotkittieixian_: and you increased horizontal desktop size, not # of desktops?05:48
MTughanxTheGoat121x: It's made.05:48
soulwarp!vista05:48
jribAcousty1: please read the topic05:48
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org05:48
MTughanOoo, nice one ubotu.05:48
ixian_riotkittie: oh.. i see. now i feel dumb. thanks05:48
xTheGoat121xDavy_Jones, then get Dell laptop05:48
riotkittieAcousty1: there are multiple midnights. :P it will be out when its out.05:48
tovellaMTughan: that would get a HUGE number of people (#wehatevista).05:48
MTughan#wehatevista exists right now.05:48
kena123Acousty1: I'm also waiting patiently. Gonna be using my university connection to do a tonne of seeding :-)05:48
riotkittieixian_: dont feel dumb. i did the same thing at first. i should have been more expressive05:49
tovella#wehatevista05:49
Acousty1lol same here05:49
dWhobwahahahahahahaha05:49
Acousty1hope the school doesnt restrict me05:49
varun0what does "warning: could not initiate dbus" mean when I do a update-manager -d? is that fatal?05:49
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sainzeocdm10, i attempted to do it through ubuntu as well and encountered the same problem05:49
sainzeohey all, after installing the nvidia drivers with Envy, i am getting glx missing on display errors - any ideas?05:49
kena123Acousty1: hehe, me too. I figure they won't care if i restrict it to 1MB/s *grin*05:49
Acousty1i dont care i'll get my internet restricted for the good of the cause05:50
Acousty1;D05:50
demonsporkomg, I can't wait for gutsy05:51
Davy_Joneszomg05:51
Acousty1lol05:51
canerdemonspork : then what will you do?05:51
Davy_Jonesheh05:51
IpMooBetademonspork:   server says 0 days05:51
Acousty1ye im a nerd05:51
Davy_JonesIpMooBeta: it has to say -01 days05:51
cdm10Hey, everyone, quit complaining... Vista was delayed by over a year.05:51
hislop!gutsy05:51
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information05:51
BSCim using an old laptop. its decent. and its resolution is 1024x768 and 16 bits. BUT its not showing up in ubuntu. only 800x600. could someone help05:51
Davy_Jonescdm10: that's what i keep telling people05:52
cdm10Gutsy's release date hasn't changed at all since it was announced...05:52
demonsporkI am not complaining, I am getting hyped about it05:52
SlickMcRunfast_GI CAN"T TAKE IT ANY MORE!05:52
PurpZeYIt's 50 minutes into the 18th...05:52
d3frostjust the time zone ...05:52
PurpZeYThere are time zones. . .05:52
SlickMcRunfast_Gthis crossword puzzel05:52
jeezmoshi everyone.  Here's a question that has been troubling me with Ubuntu (well, Debian in general)...  I'm used to using a RedHat ssh/console.  When I try using the console on Debian/Ubuntu, it's like pulling teeth.  The most notable issue is with vi, where keys just don't seem to match up (I press the End key, and it capitalizes the character I'm hovering).  Does anyone know what I'm talking about/experienced this?05:52
Davy_JonesSlickMcRunfast_G: go kill youreslf05:52
hislophow do i compile irssi on gutsy?05:52
* PurpZeY is waiting for it to drop so he can see what kind of problems people have before he makes the switch05:52
Flannelhislop: why would you want to compile it?05:52
Davy_Jones./configure && make && make install?05:52
hisloperror05:53
hislopconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:53
BSC im using an old laptop. its decent. and its resolution is 1024x768 and 16 bits. BUT its not showing up in ubuntu. only 800x600. could someone help?05:53
Flannelhislop: Right, but why are you compiling anyway?05:53
caneris there anyone here waitin for gutsy in japan? s/he must have got really angry05:53
Acousty1omg it's out it just changed!05:53
hislopi mean,i want to run it..05:53
boneIs it christmas yet?05:53
Acousty1j/k :p05:53
orb2bitch05:53
bone:)05:53
Flannel!party05:53
ubotuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Gutsy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties05:53
tonyyarusso!ohmy | orb205:54
fastBITCH05:54
ubotuorb2: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.05:54
hislopi did ./configure but it doesnt work05:54
tonyyarusso!ohmy | fast05:54
ubotufast: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.05:54
PurpZeY!fixrex bsc05:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixrex bsc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:54
Flannelhislop: irssi is in the repositories, why are you compiling?05:54
orb2hey you can't do that on us after what acousty pulled05:54
Davy_Jonesfast: you're goin out05:54
PurpZeY!fixres bsc05:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixres bsc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:54
PurpZeY!res bsc05:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about res bsc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:54
fastno wait..05:54
* PurpZeY gives up05:54
axjv!fixres05:54
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:54
hislopflannel,how to run the irssi?05:54
rawakeis there a way to tell if the proftpd binary i have was compiled with quota support?05:54
fastsry:)05:54
Davy_Joneshe wants to compile it for fun, why do you care?05:54
BSCthx ill look05:54
Flannelhislop: install it with: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install irssi` then start it with `irssi`05:55
Acousty1ye..05:55
Davy_JonesFlannel: he wants to compile it for fun, why do you care?05:55
FlannelDavy_Jones: He doesn't want to compile it for fun, he's just not used to package management.05:55
hislopflannel,to run it i should type irssi at terminal?05:56
Flannelhislop: after you've installed it, yeah.05:56
hislopflannel,gee thanks..05:56
Davy_JonesFlannel: i thought people get used to package managers, not compiling05:56
Flannelhislop: I told you how to install it too.  `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install irssi`05:56
hislopflannel,done..thanks again05:57
boneI've been compiling since Slackware, i'm addicted to it. I even goto meetings. :)05:57
Davy_Jonesyeah, so thank him for that also05:57
MTughanThe *nix admin rite of trade: "./configure && make && make install"05:57
FlannelDavy_Jones: People coming from places which have primary install methods of compiling (or people who ahve been fed myths about how linux is all about compiling) don't know about package management.  It happens05:57
hislopdavy,ann thanks to you too05:58
Davy_Joneshislop: i haven't done anything, but you're welcome05:58
Davy_JonesFlannel: people usually have myths the linux is about haxing05:59
hislopi have more question05:59
IpMooBetawhos done a lott of ubuntustudio installs05:59
Davy_Jonesthe l337 haxors use it05:59
Davy_Joneshislop: yes?05:59
FlannelIpMooBeta: try #ubuntustudio05:59
IpMooBetaFlawless:   thanks05:59
Davy_JonesIpMooBeta: i'm downloading ubuntustudio 7.04 as we speak05:59
IpMooBetaoops05:59
Davy_Joneshehe05:59
Davy_JonesFlawless:05:59
FlannelIpMooBeta: youre welcome05:59
IpMooBetai hada install problem05:59
star1Does anyone here have any suggestions for how to get my gamepad (nyko AIRFLO) working?  I have jscalibrator, which seems to detect it fine, but mupen doesn't seem to recognize the existence of it.06:00
Davy_JonesIpMooBeta: what is it?06:00
secret901YAY!!!!!06:00
Davy_JonesIpMooBeta: kernel not found?06:00
NakedSnakewhen's gutsy going to be available? I thought I could download it at midnight...I was disappointed. lol.06:00
MTughanlol06:00
hislopdo i have to install ndiswrapper for d-link dwl-g122 ysb vc1 on gutsy or it just auto install like my network card?06:00
IpMooBetathe graphics are so big i cant read the screens06:00
boneDavy_Jones: your defination of hacker is tainted. It originally meant a tinkerer. One that goes indepth into something to figure out its workings.06:00
scguy318NakedSnake: tomorrow isn't it?06:00
IpMooBeta7.04 installs np and 7.10  too06:00
Davy_JonesNakedSnake: it might be delayed for days, so don't be disappointed06:00
Davy_JonesNakedSnake: expect the worst06:00
Davy_Jonesso you don't get disappointed06:00
FlannelNakedSnake: midnight depends on your timezone.  It'll be out within 24 hours or so though.  #ubuntu-release-party is available if you want to join the celebrations06:01
scguy318Davy_Jones: i think they have an outstanding Compiz bug or something06:01
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NakedSnakeIt's already the 18th, at least in my timezone.06:01
X-DeluXegutsi!06:01
NakedSnakegotcha06:01
Davy_Jonesbone: i never defined a hacker.. besides, it's a haxor06:01
riotkittieand it  will remain the 18th all day, in your time zone, too.06:01
MasterShrekh4x0r to be exact Davy_Jones06:01
musikgoatanyone wish to test something for me to see if this bug is confirmed?   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/15380306:01
Davy_Jonesscguy318: probably, but it is common for operating system to delay the release06:01
Davy_Jonesthat's what i'm saying06:01
affanhelo06:01
jeezmosWhen I try to use vi on ubuntu, the keys don't seem to match up  For example, I press the End key, and it capitalizes the character I'm hovering.  Other things (like pressing u only works once; the 2nd time I press u, it re-does that edit.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about/experienced this?06:01
musikgoat!15380306:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 153803 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:01
`m07.10 in 23 hours?06:02
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Davy_JonesMasterShrek: yes, thanks06:02
dsmith__what a nightmare, staying awake all night and I never get gutsy, or the time halts at the current time.06:02
Lunzdo i have to install ndiswrapper for d-link dwl-g122 usb vc1 on gutsy or it just auto install like my network card?06:02
Davy_JonesMasterShrek: teh L337 h4x0r06:02
MasterShrekdsmith__, just go to bed and get it tomorrow06:02
whiskeytangoUpdate out yet?  :P06:02
cdm10dsmith__: or start an upgrade06:02
bone`m0: the only thing new in 7.10 is /dev/null_2.0 :)06:02
jarrod_why do I see sdb1 in fdisk -l but (mount device /dev/sdb1) says there is no such device?06:02
scguy318Lunz: not sure, maybe the native drivers might work06:02
musikgoatHaving desktop effects enabled, go full screen in FF and highlight something with alt text, and see if you get screen flickering06:02
`m0Lunz: should auto install06:02
MasterShrekteh 1337 pwns j0006:02
* dsmith__ took the day off to get gutsy06:03
`m0bone: + the new name :p06:03
bonehehe06:03
dsmith__actually I am joking of course06:03
Lunzscguy318,is native drive using rt73?06:03
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`m0bone: plus the screen simplicity changing (multiple)06:03
whiskeytangoSo how do i get 7.10 ..?06:03
Lunz`mo,are you sure?06:03
Polygon89Hello, im setting up samba...and it works, but im am wondering how to make it show up in network neighberhood automatically without me having to do search for networks > add > computer name in windows....anyone know how?06:03
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davemany trackers on gsuty gibon up and running?06:03
cdm10davem: no, read the topic!06:03
bone`m0: must be a desktop thingy.06:03
noodles12anyone having problems opening .ppt powerpoints in gutsy?06:03
Davy_JonesMasterShrek: this one is new.. what is j00?06:03
`m0They said on Wednesday06:04
scguy318noodles12: not me, whats the issue?06:04
`m0 But now it is Thursday06:04
noodles12i dunno. i get a "version incompatibility"06:04
tovellai really don't want to stay up all night waiting for gutsy - then when i get it, i'll be too tired to play with it.  goodnight all.06:04
MasterShrekj00 = you06:04
Lunz`mo,are you sure it is auto install?06:04
Davy_Jonesi didn't sleep with my wife, because i told her i would install gutsy :P06:04
necronekostartovella06:04
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`m0Lunz: try it06:04
necronekostarjust do an upgrade06:04
dsmith__Davy_Jones: lol06:04
MasterShreklmao Davy_Jones06:04
necronekostaror install from beta06:04
`m0Davy_Jones: you have to make sacrifices you know06:04
CarlFKanyone have a URL for how to run WOW?06:04
bonehehehe...06:05
scguy318CarlFK: sure, the Wine AppDb, moment06:05
`m0CarlFK: Download windows?06:05
eulogy_Just install Wine or Cedega.06:05
FlannelCarlFK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft06:05
MasterShrek!wine | CarlFK06:05
ubotuCarlFK: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.06:05
buzz-cpFunny USB mouse story here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41023/06:05
scguy318`m0: kinda illegal dont u think? :P06:05
Davy_Jones`m0: sure thing.. i'll probably divorce if gutsy isn't released in the next 24 hours06:05
graelbHi there06:05
eulogy_sudo apt-get install wine06:05
graelbi'm having some issues with 7.10, and dns working06:05
jarrod_why do I see sdb1 in fdisk -l but (mount device /dev/sdb1) says there is no such device?06:05
CarlFKfigured.  wasn't sure if there were any other options.  thanks06:05
necronekostarDavy_Jones lmfa006:05
whiskeytangoMasterShrek: You got a link for how to install 7.10 or do i need to wait for a few days?06:05
erikb3I am having some problems transferring files from my computer to my parents (different locations). I have tried scp and ftp. Every time the transfer gets around 4MB it gets disconnected. Logging into my parents computer with ssh I am able to download from other servers with no problem. Also, there are no problems downloading a file from my parents computer to mine. Would someone mind trying to download a file from my ftp server so I can be 06:05
musikgoatso is this room going to get really quiet tomorrow when its used for hardy herron?06:06
MasterShrekDavy_Jones, well at least youll have more time for apt06:06
chillsnyone know where ubuntu store its ... internet history like cookies and stuff.. using firefox06:06
Davy_Jonessudo apt-get install wife06:06
scguy318CarlFK: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=192206:06
IpMooBetagraelb:   u running the  beta06:06
necronekostarwhiskeytango06:06
MasterShrek!upgrade | whiskeytango06:06
ubotuwhiskeytango: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - Please join #ubuntu+1 for questions about upgrading to Gutsy, and use #ubuntu for "normal" support only06:06
k1gwbhairy hardon??06:06
Davy_Jonesye06:06
necronekostarare you currently running feisty?06:06
musikgoatlol06:06
MasterShreklmfao06:06
necronekostarjust do an upgrade.... ~_~06:06
eternalswdanyone have experience building .debs using dpkg-buildpackage.  I have a debian unstable source package that I'd like to build because it's not available in feisty.  I actually am not having any issues with the building part, but the postinstall.  I keep getting -dpkg-deb: maintainer script `postinst' has bad permissions 644 (must be >=0555 and <=0775)- but as far as I know, the postinst files are automatically made by dh_makeshli06:06
eternalswdbs so I'm not sure how to fix the permissions issue.06:06
musikgoathungry hippo would have been great tho06:06
riotkittiechills: in ~/.mozilla   i assume06:06
graelbIpMooBeta: it's the xubuntu release, the xubuntu page said it was probably going to be the same as the final release06:06
whiskeytangoIm using 7.406:06
chillsthanks riotkittie06:06
necronekostarOR INSTALL FROM BETA HERE: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta.06:06
bonescguy318: actually not any more. If you purchase a license for Office 200<7/8> you can choose to download it install of getting media.06:06
boneinstall/instead06:07
buzz-cpSee how my USB wakes up?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41023/06:07
XsteelWolfHow do i use remote desktop from ubuntu to windows? KDE has this remote desktop thingy but not ubuntu?06:07
graelbHere's the deal though...If i try to go to google.com in FF, it doesn't work. If i ping www.google.com first from a terminal, then go to google in FF, it works06:07
Davy_JonesMasterShrek: apt says "E: Couldn't find package wife"06:07
scguy318XsteelWolf: Ubuntu should have a little remote desktop app thingy lying around in Applications06:07
Davy_JonesMasterShrek: it happens that apt just can't give everything06:07
MasterShrekXsteelWolf, rdesktop if you want to use windows built in remote desktop, else set up a vnc server06:08
buzz-cpwine not wife?06:08
MasterShrekDavy_Jones, but most things you can06:08
misleywhere is the .config file suppost to be for vserver-copy06:08
IpMooBetasame deal06:08
unbananybody can help me configuring my video card?... an ati radeon mobility M6 LY06:08
MasterShrekbuzz-cp, no, he meant wife06:08
whiskeytangoSo 7.10 is unavailable still?06:08
bone*[root@gatekeeper:~] man woman06:08
boneNo manual entry for woman06:08
XsteelWolfrdesktop is remoting from Linux-> windows server ?06:08
bonehehe06:08
MasterShrek!women06:08
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.06:08
riotkittiesigh.06:08
MasterShrekaww06:08
buzz-cpanyone have a usb mouse?  did you see my pastebin?06:08
IpMooBetaim running the beta...06:08
MasterShrekthat woulda been funny06:08
Davy_JonesMasterShrek: yeah, probably they'll fix it in the next release06:08
scguy318XsteelWolf: yeah I believe06:08
renny_r2000hola. alguien sabe la hora exacta de la salida de la nueva version de ubuntu 7.10. gracias soy de venezuela06:08
buzz-cp!men06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about men - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:08
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Davy_Jonesfor some reason i can't imagine watching a woman compile something06:09
boneI think someone should create a fake man page for women/women just to be amusing. Add it to 7.11 <wink wink nudge nudge>06:09
XsteelWolf#ubuntu+1 isn't available?06:09
erikb3I am having some problems transferring files from my computer to my parents (different locations). I have tried scp and ftp. Every time the transfer gets around 4MB it gets disconnected. Logging into my parents computer with ssh I am able to download from other servers with no problem. Also, there are no problems downloading a file from my parents computer to mine. Would someone mind trying to download a file from my ftp server so I can be 06:09
Lunzcan anyone pm me for testing?06:09
k1gwbthere is no 7.1106:09
buzz-cpsee the gripping story of the usb mouse that wakes up when on lsusb here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41023/06:09
Jordan_UXsteelWolf, #ubuntu-release-party06:09
Davy_JonesXsteelWolf: no06:09
AhadielXsteelWolf, #ubuntu+1 redirects to #ubuntu06:09
cafuegoFor some reason I can't imagine a woman not taking that the wrong way.06:09
bonek1gwb, that definately wasnt the main point of the sentence. but good catch.06:09
eternalswd!topic | renny_r200006:10
uboturenny_r2000: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:10
XsteelWolfheh,yea06:10
ykfffdoes anybody know if there are big upgrades coming as soon as the final relase is out ?06:10
MasterShrekykfff, not if you are already running gutsy06:10
XsteelWolfI'm having problems with wireless,it always popup asking me to key in passphrase,and im 100% positive that's the passphrase as it works just fine on my windows but not on ubuntu06:10
musikgoatyeah, for beta users, are there alot of package updates tomorrow?06:10
ykfffthanks MasterShrek06:10
cafuegoXsteelWolf: it redirects to here whilst we're partying in there06:10
misleyvserser anyone06:10
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boneDavy_Jones: women.tgz would definately take forever to compile with all those complicated subroutines.06:11
misleythat's vserver anyone?06:11
kaushalhi06:11
Davy_Jonesbone: hahhahaha.. that's hilarious06:11
kaushalI am using ububtu 7.0406:11
boneDavy_Jones  and true...06:11
buzz-cpwhy does my mouse not work when I re-plug it back in, until I type lsusb?  Strange stuff!06:11
kaushaltypo06:11
Jordan_Ubone, The worst part are the dependencies, and you know how I am about commitment06:11
kaushalubuntu 7.0406:11
MasterShrekbone, i think its impossible, and no documentation, just a few smart-ass comments06:11
XsteelWolfI'm having problems with wireless,it always popup asking me to key in passphrase,and im 100% positive that's the passphrase as it works just fine on my windows but not on ubuntu06:11
musikgoatbuzz-cp: i don't have the same problem, but i have a different setup06:11
kaushalis there any download manager for ubuntu06:11
stone-unixwhere is the party channel?06:11
scguy318kaushal: wget? :)06:12
MasterShrekstone-unix, #ubuntu-release-party06:12
pppoe_dude!repeat | XsteelWolf06:12
ubotuXsteelWolf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:12
Nuked#ubuntu-release-party06:12
IpMooBetastone-unix:   ur here06:12
Nukedits really chaotic in there06:12
Nukedits like all of 4chan decided to go there06:12
buzz-cpThanks, musikgoat!06:12
Davy_Jonesstone-unix: there is a party channel.. it is so busy you're gonna come here to be able to talk.. heh06:12
Jordan_UIpMooBeta, No, the party channel is #ubuntu-release-party06:12
boneThere would be one week every month that women.tgz wouldnt work no matter what you did to help it.06:12
bonehehe06:12
eternalswdrenny_r2000, #ubuntu-es06:12
dsmith__Davy_Jones: yea06:13
MTughan7.10 still not released...06:13
secret901whoohoo06:13
stone-unixDavy_Jones: thanks06:13
buzz-cp!patience06:13
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:13
* IpMooBeta stops loling .. then06:13
batrixhello anyone here have a printer on their ubuntu box allowing xp machines to print from them? i am having an issue of it not sending the file to my ubuntu box and printing it just pauses everytime i try to print from the xp box06:13
Acousty1lol @ bone06:13
MasterShrekbone, the have patches for that...06:13
kaushal any other GUI download manager apart from wget06:13
MTughanI'm just checking it about every 20-30 minutes or so.06:13
stone-unixwant to catch a glimpse of it at first time06:13
MasterShrekkaushal, wget isnt a gui program06:13
Davy_Jonesbone: i'm sure it's gonna be full of bugs too06:13
boneMasterShrek: patch -p0 < stripper.diff is not a patch, only a workaround :)06:13
Jordan_Ukaushal, You mean cli program?06:13
MasterShreklol06:14
Jordan_Ukaushal, curl06:14
kaushalyeah i know that06:14
buzz-cpAll, I recommend CUPS for printing to pdf.  very handy for non-OpenOffice apps!06:14
boneok, i'm done. I actually amused myself there.06:14
kaushali want GUI like prozilla06:14
MasterShrekbone, im thinking more like patch -p1 < birth_control.diff06:14
akrill7.10 available for d/l anywhere yet?06:14
Davy_Jonesme too06:14
boneMasterShrek, ya.. accidently hit 0. p1 definately06:14
BlamaDoes anyone know why my USB Compaq Multimedia keyboard will not let me navigate the Ubuntu setup menus?06:14
MasterShrekakrill, no06:14
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pppoe_dudekaushal, firefox and epiphany come with their own06:14
buzz-cp!7.1006:14
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information06:14
Davy_Jonesgotta go.. bye all06:14
akrillhaha, i read the topic AFTER06:14
akrilli asked06:14
Davy_Jonesyou rox06:14
MasterShrekbye Davy_Jones06:15
Davy_Jonesyour roxor my soxors06:15
bonesee ya DJ06:15
pppoe_dudekaushal, also i think aria is a nice one06:15
kaushalok06:15
pppoe_dudewith  a dock applet06:15
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stananyone has any news about gutsy ??06:15
graelbha!06:16
MTughan!topic | stan06:16
graelbfixed it06:16
ubotustan: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:16
BlamaDoes anyone know why my USB Compaq multimedia keyboard will not let me navigate the Ubuntu setup menus?06:16
Lunzscguy318,can you help me installing my wireless d-link?06:16
Vuenhey guys06:16
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scguy318Lunz: on Gutsy? PM then06:16
dipuHi .. I cannot see the system tray icons in 7.10 .. can anyone help ??06:16
graelbIpMooBeta: Do me a favor, pm me06:16
Vueni know gutsy's not out yet, but have the torrents been leaked yet? i want to download it so i can install it when i get home from work tomorrow06:16
Pir8when is gutsy being released on to the mriros ?06:16
boneOk.. last one on program: women06:17
Pir8s/mriros/mirrors/06:17
bonedd if=/dev/rdsk/c1t0d0s2 of=/dev/rdsk/c1t0d1s2 bs=64k06:17
bonedarnit.. wrong paste06:17
Jordan_Udipu, You mean the pannel applets?06:17
MTughan!topic | Pir806:17
ubotuPir8: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:17
dipuyes06:17
Jordan_Udipu, Can you see any of them?06:17
Pir8doh my bad06:17
Pir8thanks ubotu06:17
dipuJordan ,no none of then06:17
Gustavo7.10 yeahhh !!!06:17
Jordan_Udipu, Try "killall gnome-panel"06:17
Pir8s/ubotu/MTughan06:17
bonethere has to be a DD command for package: women06:17
dipudo I type that in command prompt06:17
Jordan_Udipu, Yes06:18
AnAntHello, how can i know what font is currently  being used by the console ?06:18
BlamaDoes anyone know why my USB Compaq multimedia keyboard will not let me navigate the Ubuntu setup menus? If I plug in a PS2 keyboard it works fine however :[06:18
dipuok Jordan06:18
boneNote... never type killall on HP-UX. It is definately not the same as Linux/FreeBSD06:18
Jordan_UBlama, Is this on the alternate CD or the LiveCD06:18
XsteelWolfis there any tools on ubuntu repo that is good for scanning OS types somehow os fingerprinting06:19
Jordan_Ubone, I know, I should use pkill in general06:19
BlamaJordan_U, it is the install cd06:19
MTughanXsteelWolf: Get BackTrack.06:19
gaurishany idea where will be the official accouncement for gutsy??06:19
dipuHi Jordan I did that06:19
kaushalis this command correct to covert rpm to dpkg06:19
MTughan!topic | gaurish06:19
kaushalsudo alien abc.rpm06:19
dipunow what06:19
Jordan_UBlama, The normal one that boots to a desktop with an install icon or the text based installer?06:19
gaurishlol bot has lags :P06:19
ubotugaurish: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:19
boneXsteelWolf, what are you trying to do, or should I ask?06:19
XsteelWolfim trying to scan an IP for OS type06:20
boneXsteelWolf; nmap can do OS fingerprinting. You might want to check it out.06:20
BlamaJordan_U, It is the normal x64 install cd, not the alternate one. I am in the process of downloading the alternate 7.04 one because I am too impatient to wait for this release06:20
IpMooBetagraelb:   whats the problem06:20
XsteelWolfwould prefer one with GUI06:20
scguy318XsteelWolf: I think the -A option?06:21
graelbIpMooBeta: You said you were having the same problem i was, right?06:21
batrixcan someone help me fix my printer so that it can be shared with an xp machine i try to print a test page from the xp machine but it constantly pauses the document on my ubuntu box06:21
dipumy problem is when i open skype of amarok .. i used to see the icons on system tray .. but i dont see them anymor06:21
scguy318XsteelWolf: and I don't think there are any GUIs for nmap, its not that difficult a command-line imho06:21
IpMooBetadifferent install06:21
riotkittieinstall nmapfe with nmap, XsteelWolf06:21
graelbIpMooBeta:  are you on a home network with a router?06:21
XsteelWolfwould there be an output if im trying to know what OS is google or youtube running?06:22
tin_nqnhello everyone06:22
`m0Gutsy Released!06:22
FluxDwoot06:22
MasterShreklol06:22
`m0... jk06:22
kaushal:) :)06:22
pppoe_dudehi tin_nqn06:22
SkinnyPuppy34woo haaa06:22
MTughanIf it's an Apache server, you can get it from a HTTP request.06:22
boneXsteelWolf, doubt it06:22
kaushalI did install prozilla06:22
MasterShrekubuntu.com just got 1000 more hits06:22
MTughanlol06:22
BlamaJordan_U, It is the normal x64 install cd, not the alternate one. I am in the process of downloading the alternate 7.04 one because I am too impatient to wait for this release06:22
kaushalits good06:22
`m0lol06:22
Doctor_Nickdont say that unless you can provide the damn link >:(06:22
tin_nqn`m0: where?06:22
riotkittieis it midnight somewhere? >_>06:23
boneMTughan, thats defeatable by a variable in the apache conf06:23
MasterShrekits 12:22 here riotkittie06:23
MTughanYeah, but how many defeat it?06:23
kaushalwhen is 7.10 going to be available for download06:23
Cable86it's midnight for me06:23
boneMTughan i can set the server signature to anything you want.06:23
`m0kaushal: today06:23
Doctor_NickNEVER06:23
MasterShrekkaushal, within the next 24 hrs06:23
IpMooBetagraelb:    ya06:23
smmagicI got 7.1006:23
MTughanNot the server sig.06:23
scguy31812:23:23 AM CDT here06:23
MasterShreksmmagic, as do i06:23
boneMTughan, i set my ftp to be Mac OSX just to be stupid.06:23
Jordan_Ubone, If google wanted to they could trick nmap too06:23
riotkittiekaushal: it will be available when it's made available06:23
IpMooBetasmmagic:    mooo06:23
n2diy13:2206:23
xTheGoat121xkaushal, type in Alt-F4... it'll tell you when it's available.06:23
Cable86w00t CDT, i am in CDT as well06:23
boneJordan_U, true06:23
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smmagicMoo?06:23
smmagicMeow06:23
XsteelWolfI'm having problems with wireless,it always popup asking me to key in passphrase,and im 100% positive that's the passphrase as it works just fine on my windows but not on ubuntu06:24
xTheGoat121xheh06:24
IpMooBetaits a joke.. inside06:24
Cable86lol06:24
FlannelxTheGoat121x: Please stop that06:24
MasterShrekXsteelWolf, is it wep or wpa?06:24
boneI personally like setting stupid signatures on stuff, just to play with script kiddies.06:24
Cable86he did, in fact, hit alt-f406:24
tin_nqnsmmagic: have you just downloaded the final version?06:24
IpMooBetadifferent server different ppls06:24
XsteelWolfwpa06:24
graelbIpMooBeta: in your network settings, go to the dns tab, is there two IP addresses in there? One is a real address, and the other is an internal address pointing towards your router?06:24
`m0XsteelWolf: make sure you enter the correct key encryption06:24
XsteelWolf!hangover06:24
xTheGoat121xFlannel, no problem... sorry.06:24
ubotuThe Release Managers are currently hungover, and wont be releasing gutsy today.  No gutsy for you!  NOT YOURS!!!06:24
`m0XsteelWolf: there are many there06:24
MasterShrekno way06:24
IpMooBetagraelb:   msg me06:24
IpMooBetak06:24
XsteelWolfi'm entering the passphrase not encryption key06:24
kaushalhi again06:24
smmagicLOL hungover06:24
imathewHappy Gutsy Day everybody06:24
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kaushalI typed ALT-F4 it closed06:25
Jordan_Ubone, If you really want to have fun ( on a non production machine of course ) run a honey pot :)06:25
boneXsteelWolf, they arent supposed to be partying until AFTER the release.06:25
kaushal:(06:25
TECH_1Where is it?06:25
Cable86ubotu:  fine by me!  i'm already running gutsy :-P06:25
MasterShrekderr06:25
TECH_17.0106:25
MTughanOkay, Google's not giving their OS away. "Server: gws"06:25
TECH_17.10.06:25
IpMooBetaOctober 18. Please check again tomorrow.06:25
xTheGoat121xkaushal... it's not goin to be released today, apparently.  Looks to be a delay06:25
MasterShrekMTughan, u think that information would be publicly available?06:25
IpMooBetais what i see06:25
XsteelWolfMasterShrek: Any idea?06:25
wckdkl0wni thought the 7.10 release was going to be the final version?06:25
TECH_1It is the 18th06:25
boneJordan_U, those still amuse me. Or even do the fun part and leave them an opening into a chroot thats acl'd06:25
MasterShrekXsteelWolf, whats the difference?06:25
kaushalok06:25
n2diyToday is tomorrow, here at least. :)06:25
Jordan_UTECH_1, Read the topic06:25
riotkittieTECH_1: and it will be the 18th all day.06:25
`m0XsteelWolf: your talking about the passphrase for keyring?06:25
XsteelWolfyes06:26
TECH_1Im gonna cry..06:26
AlbinotuxAre we talking afternoon morning? When are mirrors updated?06:26
boneIts actually like 6pm in Austraila :)06:26
smmagicUmm06:26
`m0XsteelWolf: delete that default keyring passphrase and it will prompt you to reenter it06:26
smmagicIm in aus and 3:30pm06:26
* bone thinks06:26
Jordan_UAlbinotux, #ubuntu-release-party, see also the topic06:26
`m0rm -r ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring06:26
XsteelWolfOk and?06:26
ykfffIt's Thursday, October 18, 2007, at 12:26 PM in Asia/Bangkok06:26
riotkittieAlbinotux: they are updated when they are updated. nobody has an answer. nobody can tell you a time.06:26
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bonesmmagic, ok.. I guess my math is off on that one.06:26
tin_nqnthere is any server with 7.10 final at this time?06:26
whiskeytangoSo, once I finish updating ill be able to use my series 8 video card yes?06:27
bozniHello all, does anyone have time to help me with accessing my ntfs raid from Ubuntu?06:27
smmagicGMT +10:0006:27
graelbIpMooBeta: ok, you're messaged =P06:27
bonesmmagic, we have offices there, I swore they were 18+ from us.06:27
MTughanykfff: 1:30AM in NY.06:27
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XsteelWolfGutsy is out!06:27
dipuHi when O launch any application like skype / pidgin / amarok .. i dont see them on system trau06:27
XsteelWolfeer i mean RC version06:27
MTughanKnock it off.06:27
TECH_1Those servers are going to be so lagged..lol.06:27
* MasterShrek is guessing sometime within the next 5 1/2 to 7 1/2 hrs06:27
MTughanRC has been out for a while now.06:27
towliebahi06:27
riotkittiesigh.06:27
thoreauputicdipu: try right click - add notification area06:27
scguy318hello06:27
bonemeans I have to upgrade from work.. hehe06:27
towliebawho here has been using 7.1006:27
IpMooBetadude i dont see it06:27
pppoe_dudedipu, what are you running?06:28
`m0I wonder why gnome placed a keyring :<06:28
MTughantowlieba: Most people.06:28
scguy318towlieba: I tried the LiveCD, i plan to upgrade as soon as stable is released06:28
FlannelGuys, take the Gutsy release stuff to #ubuntu-release-party, thanks.06:28
CITguyI've been using the final beta06:28
SkinnyPuppy34http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download    doesn't show 7.10 yet... I've been using it about 6 weeks06:28
MasterShrektowlieba, me06:28
dipu7.1006:28
musikgoatanyone wish to test something for me to see if this bug is confirmed?   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/153803  Having desktop effects enabled, go full screen in FF and highlight something with alt text, and see if you get screen flickering06:28
musikgoatin gutsy ^^06:28
pppoe_dudedipu, right click on panel, add "notification applet"06:28
diputhoreauputic .. whats notification area06:28
dipu???06:28
MasterShrekmusikgoat, i was getting that same kinda thing wiht a video being open and alt+tabbing06:29
XsteelWolfwhat changes will we see from RC to beta actually?06:29
MTughanGah, I need to get out soon... 1:30AM, and I need to be up at 6AM. Ugh...06:29
scguy318dipu: its the equivalent of the icon tray on Windows, with all the small icons06:29
thoreauputicdipu: its an applet - system tray06:29
Psi-JackDoes anyone here use PulseAudio?06:29
MasterShrekmusikgoat, when the video was full screen06:29
Jordan_U!anyone | Psi-Jack06:29
ubotuPsi-Jack: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:29
MasterShrekXsteelWolf, it goes from beta to rc to stable  and its mostly bug fixes06:29
musikgoatMasterShrek: I get that as well, but i didn't attach it,  i think it may be separate06:29
towliebai read that you can upgrade to the final version of 7.10 by doing update-manager -d if i run that command, do i get the final version ?06:29
graelbhah! i can't private message. i'm not registered06:30
clustyi was curios if whats the deal with 64 bit veriants of ubuntu. what other gains does one get besides accesing more than 4GB or memory?06:30
IpMooBetathats right06:30
IpMooBetand that sucks06:30
dipugot it thanks all06:30
MasterShrekmusikgoat, its just the fact that compiz is still a little buggy, it should get better eventially06:30
`m0I don't knoww what happenes to the existing compiz since desktop 3d effects is set as well06:30
varun0towlieba: I always thought -d wasn't for "final versions", just for development versions, but I could be wrong06:30
musikgoatyes, i can agree, it will take time06:30
bonegraelb, what server is that on?06:30
ghiggiohey guys, where can i find the new iso of gutsy?06:30
graelbirc.freenode.com i think06:30
scguy318clusty: probably being able to use the 64-bit features of your processor, and supposedly faster file copy?06:30
musikgoatMasterShrek: can you confirm the bug tho?06:30
Jordan_Uvarun0, You are correct06:30
MasterShrekghiggio, its not out yet06:30
Flannelghiggio: All the repos, once it's released.06:30
smmagicIs it safe to increase the size of a partition?06:30
kaushalis there a command like wodim06:30
kahrytanclusty,  you get headaches with 64bit.06:31
graelbirc.ubuntu.com06:31
ghiggiook thank ;)06:31
kaushalwhich is used to burn CDs06:31
bonegraelb, all are round robin. Do you know what local one you are on (/motd might help).06:31
varun0Jordan_U: oh. that's good to know. I was getting really confused with everyone saying "use -d".....lol06:31
MasterShrekmusikgoat, i could i guess, but i wouldnt really bother with it06:31
TECH_1Big headaches with 64 bit.06:31
tin_nqnghiggio: in a few hours more06:31
kaushaland can i have example of wodim command to burn the iso06:31
`m0Im going to sleep06:31
boneahh. hehe odd06:31
thoreauputickaushal: umm - yes, wodim06:31
`m0when I wake up I will download ubunut06:31
Psi-JackJordan_U: Very few people I've asked around with, use PulseAudio, and thus, few answer, so I ask the "anyone" question, because if you don't use it, you likely don't even know what the heck it even is. ;)06:31
pppoe_dudesmmagic, generally it is better to back up important data before resizing partitions06:31
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`m0nite guys/girls/kids06:31
smmagicWell it is backed up06:31
smmagicBetter download 7.10 iso06:31
dipuhi again .. is there a way i can find out if compiz or beryl is enabled on my laptop - ubuntu 7.1006:31
Jordan_UPsi-Jack, I know what it is and I don't use it :)06:31
MasterShrekTECH_1, what kinda headaches, my head feels fine06:32
graelbbone: niven.freenode.net It's in corvallis...06:32
clustykahrytan: i know i do. but does it increase performance? some ppl were saying that 64 bit vista was soo much faster, but then again prolly they had no idea what they were talking about06:32
MTughandipu: Should be enabled by default.06:32
kaushalthoreauputic whats the command line example for wodim06:32
thoreauputickaushal: wodim -v -blank=fast -dev=/dev/cdrom foo.iso06:32
Psi-JackJordan_U: You know what it is, but do you know /how/ to use it, even if you don't? ;)06:32
kaushalok06:32
thoreauputickaushal: that's with a cd-rw06:32
bonegraelb, i wonder if thats something local to them cause i swear the servers i've been on dont restrict that06:32
dipuMtughan .. how do i check it ??06:32
dipuany idea06:32
kaushalok06:32
TECH_1Getting 32 bit pgms to work with 64 bit06:32
thoreauputickaushal: you don't need the blank for a cdr06:32
graelbis there a way to change servers?06:32
MTughanNo, sorry.06:32
kaushali need to erase the CD06:32
MasterShrekTECH_1, not really, 32 bit programs run fine06:32
kaushalits a CD-RW06:32
Jordan_UPsi-Jack, You'll never know unless you ask your question :)06:33
Pir8can ubuntu be installed on a CF 2GB ?06:33
MasterShrekclusty, just the fact that you are taking full advantage of your processor's capabilities06:33
graelbPir8: www.pendrivelinux.com06:33
bonegraelb, find another server and type /server irc.whomever.tld06:33
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thoreauputickaushal: then use the one I gave, and substitute the iso name06:33
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kaushalok06:33
graelbOk!06:33
graelb be right back then06:33
Pir8graelb sweet, thanks mate.06:33
MasterShrekTECH_1, the only real issues are flash and java, and u can use 32 bit firefox if u need them that bad06:33
clustyMasterShrek: what might those be for an intel 7300?06:33
abhiberahow many hours for the new ubuntu release?06:33
Blama9906:34
bonei hope he knew to fill in the irc.whomever.tld06:34
TECH_1Exactly master..thats my point.06:34
joelitoanyone knows when will the new isos will be ready06:34
rsfriendsthere is some days06:34
MasterShrekclusty, i dont know06:34
racarterwhen does will i be able to download ubuntu 7.10?06:34
Phlostencan anyone tell me how to mount an external usb ntfs drive so that I can write to it?06:34
MTughan!topic abhibera06:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic abhibera - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:34
rsfriends4 or 6 days06:34
MTughan!topic | abhibera06:34
ubotuabhibera: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:34
clustyMasterShrek: what might be in general then? :D06:34
smmagicCan I use GParted with ubuntu running to increase its partition?06:34
boneit still broke graelb>?06:34
scguy318!ntfs-3g | Phlosten06:34
ubotuPhlosten: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:34
MasterShrekTECH_1, but you are taking full advantage of a 64 bit processor, theres gotta be something good about that, although i dont really know what lol06:34
graelbYessir!06:34
Jordan_Usmmagic, No, you need to boot a liveCD06:34
bonef'n odd06:34
graelbmethinnks i might just register06:34
TECH_1lol06:34
dipuhi ..whats the latest version of skype for ubuntu ??06:34
smmagicAnyone have a iso then?06:34
rsfriendsbeta06:34
MasterShrekrc06:34
Psi-JackI'm trying to configure PulseAudio to work with my primary ALSA Device, a Live card, roughly. But when I load up PulseAudio, it assumes control of the USB Headset, instead. I'm trying to use PulseAudio as a replacement for esound's esd server, for Gnome and things that need esd to work reliably.06:34
TECH_1But my brother did it..it does run pretty fast.06:34
rsfriendsskype.com06:34
graelbis that a command from irc? or is it from a webpage?06:35
clustyMasterShrek: one bad thing is that memory consumptons grows by about 20%06:35
dipui have 1.3.0.5306:35
MasterShrekclusty, really? i was not aware, all i know is mine runs pretty damn fast06:35
ANTDx1latest is 1.4.0.11806:35
bonef'n odd?06:35
MasterShreki need more ram tho...gotta upgrade06:35
ANTDx1unless you want svn, which i dont think they release06:35
TECH_1I agree.06:35
bonegraelb, what command?06:35
clustyMasterShrek: all C pointers grow in size for ex06:35
notdarkyetthis might sound dumb but is there a way to undo the last command in the command line06:35
TECH_1Ram is like horse power.06:35
notdarkyetlol06:35
notdarkyet?06:35
graelbbone, to register my nick06:35
rsfriendswhat is new in gusty ubuntu06:35
MasterShrek!changes06:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about changes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:36
clustyrsfriends: LOOL06:36
astro76notdarkyet, heh no, what did you do?06:36
bonegraelb, it shoudl be available via irc.06:36
MasterShrekstupid bot06:36
MasterShrek=P06:36
graelbbone, i got your pm, but i don't think it let me send you one06:36
Psi-Jackrsfriends: There's a website that explains all that for you.06:36
IpMooBetasence when did u have to register to be on freenode06:36
Psi-Jackrsfriends: www.ubuntu.com06:36
rsfriendsty06:36
TECH_1loo06:36
graelbIpMooBeta:  Just to PM apparantly06:36
bonegraelb: ya, I never got a reply06:36
TECH_1what is ubuntu?06:36
astro76rsfriends, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta06:36
chris__how come mute does not work....06:36
Psi-JackTECH_1: Ubuntu is a linux distribution. www.ubuntu.com06:36
MasterShreki dunno TECH_1 i was wondering the same thing06:36
* IpMooBeta how to kill a good thing06:36
TECH_1he he06:37
chris__i did a mute and i still hear amarok....06:37
Blamaclusty, If you have a program that is optimized for funning on a 64bit architechture then it will perform better than one on a 32bit.06:37
MasterShrekchris__, then mute it again!06:37
graelbIpMooBeta: got that invite?06:37
IpMooBetayup06:37
Jordan_Uchris__, Check all the channels06:37
IpMooBetabyteme06:37
MasterShrekyes, by checking the other channels06:37
MTughanlol06:37
chris__the icon shows that it is muted.....06:37
notdarkyetwell i was trying to put linux on my ipod, and i thought i was doing a back up of the ipod os, i used the command "dd if=/dev/sdb of=ipod_os_partition_backup" but it ended up being 4.3 gb instead of 40 mb06:37
Jordan_Uchris__, You might want to change what channel the volume control changes06:37
chris__brb06:37
dimas_is gutsy out already?06:37
clustyBlama: most of the power hungy stuff is written by me06:37
Psi-Jackdimas_: No.06:38
MTughan!topic | dimas_06:38
ubotudimas_: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:38
tonyyarussodimas_: Read the topic.06:38
Psi-Jackdimas_: Not officially. :p06:38
graelbmmkay! follow it, and we'll use it like a pm =P06:38
eternalswdchris__, mute via the volume control?  you might want to check which device it is muting06:38
* xTheGoat121x bites his tongue06:38
MasterShreknotdarkyet, cuz it backed up everything on your ipod06:38
notdarkyetand i dont know what or were that 4.3 gb is06:38
bonenotdarkyet, it will only make a backup of what space was used.06:38
MagicFabhttp://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/dell-inspiron-1420n-ubuntu-laptop-review.ars06:38
notdarkyetwhere is that backup located06:38
rsfriendswhen new ubuntu come, do i need to re instal all, or can i just type some command in ubuntu and it  will install06:38
dimas_mtughan fuck off06:38
MTughanHey...06:38
notdarkyetso i can get rid of it06:38
Blamaclusty, As in you write most of the programs you use that consume a lot of CPU?06:38
MasterShreknotdarkyet, whatever dir you were in06:38
Psi-JackSo, nobody with PulseAudio knowledge here that can help? ;)06:38
notdarkyetohh cool06:38
MTughanCould someone ban him?06:39
clustyBlama: yes06:39
MasterShrekrsfriends, you can just upgrade06:39
chris__only pcm changes anything...., but master worked b4 i upgraded now "master" does "nothing" lol06:39
MasterShrekMTughan, hes gone06:39
Jordan_UPsi-Jack, Have you tried changing the default card for alsa?06:39
rsfriendsok ty06:39
TECH_1Just purchase another hard drive and install it..06:39
clustyBlama: from time to time i use matlab so i dunno really about that06:39
MTughanMasterShrek: I know, that's why I asked for a ban, not a kick.06:39
lethalis there anyway i could tell Gnome to open applications on a certain monitor? I have a multiple monitor setup06:39
Psi-JackJordan_U: To ALSA, the Live /is/ Slot-0, as I manually set that up through modprobe.d rules in alsa-base.06:40
graelbIpMooBeta: if you join that channel, we can talk... msg didn't work06:40
Psi-JackJordan_U: But, PulseAudio doesn't seem to care. LOL06:40
lethalim wondering if this could be done through the xorg.conf file or a diff file06:40
notdarkyethow can i make sure that my ipod is located at /dev/sdb06:40
whiteygfordhey all06:40
IpMooBetagraelb:   im here relaxing06:40
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notdarkyetand those are the files i am manipulating06:40
graelbHuh? lol06:40
MasterShreknotdarkyet, lsusb06:40
Jordan_Unotdarkyet, You can't, just use uuid's instead06:40
* xTheGoat121x watches the room06:40
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graelbI was just trying to help you fix your problem with the networking, but... *shrugs*06:41
whiteygfordim running on the gutsy gibbon beta and beryl doesnt work for me, any ideas?06:41
* MasterShrek watches xTheGoat121x 06:41
danrwhi everyone! I was hoping to find someone who can help me with an install of OSX on a particular HP laptop (compatable) , or point me in the right direction? It is an HP Pavilion DV8000  (DV8230US).  I have been bumping into a few problems, and I am new to the OSX field, but would consider myself advanced with pc tech, etc.06:41
TECH_1Rob Bill Gates: Stop financing microsoft.06:41
MTughanwhiteygford: Could be your video card.06:41
Blamaclusty, MATLAB currently offers a 64bit version, but if that is the only reason I wouldn't bother. I run a 64bit Windows XP and I used to run into a lot of driver problems, but not so much anymore. But I don't see the real reason in upgrading to it...06:41
MTughanTECH_1: #wehatevista06:41
oobehello when is 7.10 gonna be available06:41
MasterShrekdanrw, this is an ubuntu room, not a macosx room06:41
whiteygfordits not my video card, it worked with 7.0406:41
lethalis there anyway to make applications starts on a certain window on a multiple monitor setup?06:41
TECH_1Loo..isnt vista a mexican dish?06:41
boneoobe, it should be available right after it is released.06:41
MasterShrekoobe, never06:41
* xTheGoat121x watches MasterShrek watching xTheGoat121x06:42
danrwMasterhrek - sorry about that - can you point me to a server/channel that can help?06:42
boneMasterShrek, i like my answer better :)06:42
oobeits already meant to nbe releaseed now06:42
MasterShrekwhiteygford, reinstall the driver, your kernel got upgraded06:42
whiteygfordok06:42
notdarkyetso when i give the command "cat /proc/scsi/scsi" and my ipod is at scsi1506:42
MasterShrekbut its not true bone, it wont ever be released, so it wont ever be available06:42
boneoobe, your information is tainted06:42
* MasterShrek watches xTheGoat121x watching MasterShrek watching xTheGoat121x watching the channel06:42
oobethe site says zero days06:42
Jordan_UPsi-Jack, Are you using /etc/pulse/default.pa ?06:42
boneMasterShrek: So no /dev/null_2.0 for me/06:43
oobeso does that mean tommorow06:43
danrwMasterhrek - sorry about that - can you point me to a server/channel that can help?06:43
MasterShrekoobe, within 24 hrs probably06:43
whiteygfordthanks06:43
daningoobe: yes06:43
MasterShreklol /dev/null_2.006:43
wckdkl0wnhow do i tell what version of wine is running on a system?06:43
* MTughan is getting a headache from MasterShrek and xTheGoat121x...06:43
vik444I'm trying to get an external monitor going from my laptop (ibm using i900 graphics), but I'm having trouble changing the refresh rate for the external monitor. Any pointers?06:43
oobeok thanks06:43
aliapt06:43
daningoobe: but when can i download it exactly06:43
* MasterShrek gives MTughan some aspirin06:43
MTughanThanks.06:43
TECH_1How easy is janus to put on Ubuntu.06:43
oobethis is a help channel not a take the piss channel06:43
Blamaclust, What are the advantages? High performance platform for the next generation of applications. Windows XP Professional x64 Edition will currently support up to 128 gigabytes (GB) of RAM and 16 terabytes of virtual memory, enabling applications to run faster when working with large data sets. Applications can preload substantially more data into virtual memory, allowing rapid access by the 64-bit processor.06:43
MasterShrek=)06:43
whiteygfordoh, one thing that may change the issue, the only thing that doesnt work is the main bar, at the top with the close and minimize, does not show up06:43
* xTheGoat121x laughs at MasterShrek watching xTheGoat121x watching MasterShrek watching xTheGoat121x watch the channel06:43
boneI love people who have latest & greatest syndrome06:43
* xTheGoat121x stops now06:44
MasterShrek!latest06:44
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:44
* MasterShrek does 206:44
wckdkl0wnhow do i connect to another linux machine remotely to work as root in the terminal? ssh?06:44
clustyrite06:44
chris__how do i make "master" volume work???06:44
clustynot worth the hassle06:44
MasterShrekwckdkl0wn, yes06:44
wckdkl0wnMasterShrek, k ty06:44
MasterShrekchris__, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base06:44
clustythe fact of not having the flash plugin available sux in itself06:44
wckdkl0wnport 22 right?06:44
danrwmastershrek:  can u point me to a channel that I can find help on OSX install on pc?06:44
MTughanssh is port 22, yes.06:44
lethaldoes anyone know how to tell ubuntu to open applications on a certain monitor on a multiple monitor setup?06:44
xTheGoat121xSo how difficult is it to share a printer over a network with Windows machines?06:44
Blamaclusty, It isn't, I wish I had a dual-coe processer instead of this 64bit one06:44
daningwhat's the different if I upgrade from 7.04 to gutsy instead install gusty?06:44
danrwxTheGoat - it is incredibly easy06:45
MasterShreknot really danrw, search the channel list for osx or something06:45
clustyBlama: i have dual core06:45
clustyBlama: useless most fo the time06:45
MasterShrekBlama, i got dual core 64 bit :)06:45
danrwthanks mast -06:45
cubei have quad core amd06:45
clustyBlama: santa rosa is a bit different though06:45
Artemis3daning, you can upgrade using the cd as well06:45
danrwanyone know of a channel for help with Install of OSX on PC's?06:45
Blamaclusty, I know, but more useful than 64bit06:45
xTheGoat121xdanrw, good to know.  I'll be tackling that problem tomorrow06:45
MasterShrekif i had more ram i could make use of the processors...06:45
TECH_1Ubuntujustlostmyspacebar06:45
chris__MasterShrek, nope......06:45
Psi-JackJordan_U: I had tried to figure out what to do with that..06:45
ykfffSysinfo for 'AmataraSu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.66GHz at 2660 MHz (5325 bogomips), , RAM: 497/503MB, 124 proc's, 22.33h up06:45
cubeand i am on 32 bit ubuntu06:45
chris__didn't do anything......06:45
whiteygfordok, video driver is updated, but when i run beryl my top bar with the max and mini doesnt show up06:45
astro76danrw, there's a /list command to list channels... but it's #macosx06:45
MasterShrekthat was my guess chris__06:46
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thoreauputic!msg06:46
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.06:46
whiteygfordso basically none of my frames show up with beryl06:46
Blamaclusty, I am pretty sure I have a flash plugin...06:46
dorkfaceWhat the?  I want to join ubuntu+1, but it is kicking me here?06:46
cubeykff how did u do that06:46
lethali have a quad monitor setup, i want applications to load on one of the first 3 monitors; does anyone know how to do this?06:46
chris__:(06:46
clustyBlama: yeah. you do running 32bit firefox06:46
MasterShrekdorkface, its forwarded to this channel now06:46
siriusnovawomg06:46
chris__it worked fine b4 the dang upgrade....06:46
siriusnovano more ubuntu+106:46
siriusnova:|06:46
wckdkl0wncube, its a script for xchat06:46
thoreauputicdorkface: closed until after the 7.10 release06:46
dorkfaceoh, right, its the 18 :)06:46
lavender_dreamAnyone have issues tab-browsing in Opera with Flash (such as video/sound skipping) having installed Flash via apt-get system wide instead of installing it individually in local/user individual browser plugin settings? I'm wondering what the best choice is between installing it system wide vs. individually because I'm having issue with Opera + Flash, Firefox works fine however... I'm wondering if this is a known bug/issue.06:46
clustyBlama: thats what i have on school PCs06:46
MasterShrekclusty, you can use flash in 64 bit firefox with nspluginwrapper06:46
cubehey lethal do you know is there any way for you to hook up a 2nd keyboard and use it on a seperate monitor06:46
siriusnovaanyone here done multicast streaming via VLC?06:46
ykfffcube: in konversation /sysinfo06:47
Blamaclusty, hmm, lemme check...06:47
chris__anyone have this volume problem???06:47
cubeoh im in gaim :(06:47
danrwxTheGoat ---   it is literally this --- basically  open Start Menu: Control Pannel: Printers:     Right click your printer, click Sharing. check the box, give it a name, and walla. - On the PC u want to use it, go to the same place (control panel, printers and faxes)    click ADD NEW PRINTER,     add network printer,  browse06:47
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timfrostdaning, the key thing is that an upgrade will preserve custom settings, while a fresh install will give you the default settings for the new release06:47
thoreauputic!anyone06:47
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:47
CITguycube: have you heard of the multiple point x server?06:47
Pie-rateCan I download Gutsy yet? I don't see the option for 7.10 at ubuntu.com06:47
TECH_1Does anybody.06:47
lethalthere is no reason to hook up a 2nd keyboard06:47
whiteygforddoes anyone know how to fix the beryl issue where the window frames dont show up in 7.10?06:47
MTughan!topic | Pie-rate06:47
MasterShreknot yet Pie-rate06:47
clustydamn06:47
ubotuPie-rate: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:47
cubecitguy no but does that do it??06:47
clustyubuntu+1 is gone06:47
siriusnovatoo many people talking at the same time06:47
siriusnovawe need ubuntu+106:47
siriusnovaplease06:48
chris__has someone else ran into my "master" volume problem?, as in it does nothing and it is there just for looks06:48
volkhow can I make usb drive mounted by root readable to other users?06:48
jeezmoswhat's the general consensus on installing /home on a separate partition?06:48
clustyi liked it better cause it was lower traffic and devs were hanging around06:48
clusty:D06:48
Jordan_UPsi-Jack, One of the example configurations has a line "add-autoload-source input module-alsa-source device=hw:1,0 source_name=input" Looks like the type of thing that you want06:48
MTughan#wehatevista06:48
siriusnovayes clusty06:48
cubei am building a dual socket amd quad core pc...just now coming to the market and i want to be able to do that06:48
astro76jeezmos, always a good idea06:48
siriusnovaubuntu is just too big06:48
cubehave seperate work stations06:48
thoreauputicjeezmos: it's usually a good idea06:48
CITguycube: it allows for multiple mice and keyboard inputs06:48
cubeits like the future of workstations could be a pc with 32 cores and 32 monitors06:48
CITguycube: http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/06:48
clustysiriusnova: can't really follow 20 discussion at the same time06:48
cubethankyou06:48
Jordan_UPsi-Jack, Though obviously not for source, that does specify a specific alsa device06:48
MTecknologyubuntu+1 is gone06:49
siriusnovaclusty: no kidding06:49
Psi-JackJordan_U: Yeah.. Hmmm06:49
MTecknologydoes that mean.......06:49
whiteygfordwhy doesnt beryl work on 7.10?06:49
thoreauputicguys, the channel is always crazy at release time06:49
MTecknology:)06:49
MasterShrekMTecknology, it means soon, thats all: soon06:49
Jordan_U!doesn't work | whiteygford06:49
ubotuwhiteygford: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.06:49
smmagicWhen I try to use the gparted live cd, the graphic interface doesnt boot06:49
MTecknologyMasterShrek, raise my hopes, then crush me dry06:49
smmagicHow do I fix that?06:49
rskwhiteygford: cause beryl is outdated. use the 'compiz' from gutsy instead06:49
MasterShrekMTecknology, less than 24 hrs :)06:49
thoreauputicwhitewater: beryl and compiz are now compiz-fusion06:49
Jordan_Usmmagic, Use an Ubuntu LiveCD instead :)06:49
smmagicThat partitions?06:50
siriusnovaSO anyone here have problems streaming from videolan to a multicast ip? i get major stuttering and lag on the client computer connecting to the multicast ip, say 225.5.5.506:50
whiteygfordbut the compiz that comes with gutsy is TERRIBLE06:50
CITguysmmagic: have you tried the partition magic live cd?06:50
MasterShreksmmagic, it has gnome-partition-editor06:50
h3h_timohey all... im having a problem with grub booting into windows... whenever i try.. it says its missing a certain file... i can replace this with a recovery disk.. but i dont wanna mess up grub... any suggestions?? oh. and also, in gparted, the partition is in an extended partition06:50
Jordan_Usmmagic, It contains gparted :)06:50
siriusnovagood luck getting that answered with 3000 people in here06:50
MTecknologyMasterShrek, I still wish they woulda fixed my last few bugs... but I might try to make a new cd with the fixes, if i can fix them06:50
TECH_1MTughan:  here is why no one should trust (vista)..  http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/01/09/government-spooks-helped-microsoft-build-vista06:50
smmagicDoes it have to be the same release?06:50
MTecknology*patch them*06:50
Jordan_Usmmagic, System -> Administration -> Gnome Partition Editor06:50
siriusnova:|06:50
rskwhiteygford: okey file a bug with your opinions on launchpad then to make ubuntu better06:50
lethal32 monitors? thats pretty cool, with 4 monitors i had trouble getting all the refresh rates working correctly on every monitor06:50
Jordan_Usmmagic, No06:50
thoreauputicwhiteygford: just a question of configuration, I would say06:50
smmagicI'm trying to increase the ubuntu partition06:50
Gustavo7.10 cool !!!06:50
MTughanTECH_1: Join #wehatevista then.06:50
cubethe amd 8000 series cpu will support 8 physical cpu's @ quad core =32 cores! MPX will create a super device06:51
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lethalsmmagic; can't you expand the partition using partition magic?06:51
whiteygfordalright, ill keep tinkering to see if i can get this06:51
MTecknologyhey guys... can you wait until at least 9:30 to release, my time?06:51
whiteygfordthanks guys06:51
MTecknologyI want to be awake for it06:51
smmagicDon't you have to pay for partition magic?06:51
bonecube: are you referring to on CPU virtualization?06:51
cubeyes the new amd am306:51
CITguysmmagic: I meant to say parted magic (sry) http://partedmagic.com/06:51
cubewith virtualization06:52
PurpZeYMTecknology: I thinks it hasn't released yet...Plus, it isn't really like a movie...not going to spoil the ending06:52
smmagicThats it!06:52
smmagicI used that last tiem06:52
TECH_1I want 7.10 (now).06:52
rskTECH_1: Ok.06:52
catachDenied06:52
bonecube: Ya, in theory it seems nice. I'd like to see it confuse a few OS's though. Havent played with it yet.06:52
MasterShrekTECH_1, install rc and update06:52
rsknot going to happen!06:52
MTecknologyPurpZeY, it's going to spoil the start06:52
mzuverinkany word on the status of the login/logout bug w/ nautilus and bonobo-server, like when it will get fixed?  I cant remeber the bug number...06:52
TECH_1Im too busy eating vista.06:53
cubebone: mine is going to have two quad cores06:53
PurpZeYWhat major difference is gutsy going to show, besides compiz being built-in...I understand it's more stable more driver capabilities...But, what's the hype all about?06:53
cuberight now i am on a asus dual socket that is going to suppor the new am3 cpu's getting released at the end of this month06:53
MasterShrekcube, why? anything over dual core is overkill unless you are running like 4 vms06:53
smmagicHow come it is .iso.zip?06:53
lethalis there any configuration in xorg.conf which you could tell x what monitor to put newly started applications on?06:53
MTecknologyHey... wait till 9:30 CST to release.... PLEASE :P - I want to scream out in class when it's release06:53
MTecknologyanyway - g'night all06:53
MTughanlol06:53
MasterShreklethal, doubtful, just drag it over06:53
TECH_1chow06:53
cubemastershrek i am trying  to build a system that will transform the workstation06:53
MTecknologyMTughan, I actually will if it's released then06:54
blaydelethal: you'll have to mess w/ a window manager to do that06:54
cubeinto a multiple user system06:54
MTecknologyeven though i'm using it noe06:54
bonecube: nice.. i'm on a lowly HP DL360 G3 with dual 3.06 xeons and 4gb ram.06:54
lethalit's just annoying to do; with 4 monitors: setup: http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=9mnj0eb0wh5&thumb=606:54
MasterShrekcube, its been done06:54
cubewell it hasn't been done here06:54
TECH_1I am calling in sick so I can get it sometime (today)..(wink,wink).06:54
cubeand i will sell it06:54
siriusnovahaha06:54
siriusnovacalling in sick because of an Ubuntu release?06:54
MasterShrekhah, good luck06:54
siriusnovalol06:55
cubea working multiple user station based off 1 computer06:55
cubeit will catch on..06:55
boneI'd call in dead, but I am sure they would want a note. joking.06:55
MasterShrekdumb terminals with network to a central mainframe running multiple virtual machines06:55
MTughanAnyone who doesn't like Vista, #wehatevista.06:55
siriusnovalol i like how ubuntu.com has 00 days to go06:55
siriusnovashouldnt it be like "released"06:55
siriusnova:|06:55
Woodersonhow do i open a tar.gz file06:55
riotkittieno. if its not released, and there are 0 days to go, then no, it should not be released.06:55
hakuheh...i wonder at what time i can start the download06:55
siriusnovacan we please get +1 back, its kind of rediculous to have 3000 people in here06:55
smmagicSomeone mind telling me why ubuntu gives me the option of 28.8x speed on a 24x cd drive?06:55
Jordan_UWooderson, Double click it :)\06:56
TECH_1click on it..loo06:56
cubeits not released...but i am sure the version on all of the ftps is the version they are releasing06:56
boneWooderson : tar -zxvf blah.tar.gz06:56
YodaRocksMySockswhy does everyone bash vista?, vista is not THAT bad..., i mean its not great but its not that bad....06:56
Artemis3cube, can't you achieve the same with ltsp?06:56
Woodersono ive been drinking tonight so if my question sounds stupid dont blame blame alcoholo06:56
Jordan_Usiriusnova, That is what #ubuntu-release-party is for06:56
AnonymousCowardhi may i know how long more before ubuntu 7.10 is out???06:56
cubewhat is that artemis06:56
rskYodaRocksMySocks: more fun to bash it than say it's ok :)06:56
cube!ltsp06:56
ubotuLTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project06:56
AnonymousCowardhi may i know how long more before ubuntu 7.10 is out???06:56
riotkittie3000? there are a mere 1385. and the vast majority of them are idle.06:56
Jordan_Usiriusnova, It could be *much* worse :)06:56
rskAnonymousCoward: few hours06:56
YodaRocksMySockslol @ rsk06:56
bonecube: basically thin client linux's06:56
riotkittiei dare say this chan is slower than norm06:57
siriusnovaholy crap06:57
siriusnovamajor lag and i see 400 lines scroll past06:57
siriusnova:|06:57
BlindSidehey can someone point me in the right direction06:57
AnonymousCowarddo u know the exact number of hours to the release of 7.10?06:57
BlindSideto cross compiling windows exec on ubuntu06:57
BlindSideis there a good guide06:57
Artemis3BlindSide, sure, keep going to the left06:57
riotkittie!topic | AnonymousCoward06:57
ubotuAnonymousCoward: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:57
FlannelBlindSide: check out mingw06:57
Jordan_UAnonymousCoward, I see you on forums a lot, especially /. :)06:57
AnonymousCowardLOL06:57
boneAnonymousCoward: $time = system(/dev/random);06:57
AnonymousCowardlol06:58
BlindSideyeah i know about mingw , maybe ill search the forums for a nice guide06:58
cubeyeah i think i like LTSP better06:58
Artemis3he is famous06:58
AnonymousCowardseriously, i wanna schedule a download of the latest 7.10 server06:58
AnonymousCowardbut i need to know the time06:58
MTughan#wehatevista06:58
cdm10AnonymousCoward: just upgrade now, there's no difference between the upgrade now and the upgrade when it's released.06:58
boneAnonymousCoward: TBD, i'd check back later when you have some free time.06:58
[chr0n0s]AnonymousCoward : it's 10 AM (which timezone i won't tell !)06:59
max__hi!06:59
Woodersonanyone know what vmware is ?06:59
musikgoatlol06:59
Woodersoni need help installing it06:59
musikgoat!vmware06:59
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers06:59
Jordan_UAnonymousCoward, Just set it to do wget -c in a for loop with a sleep of about 20 minutes in between06:59
Woodersonthx06:59
BlindSide!mingw06:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mingw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:59
max__i have a problem with a new installation of gutsy06:59
BlindSidelame06:59
cube!virtualizers06:59
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications06:59
max__someone can help me please?06:59
Lunzhow to open exe file?07:00
BlindSidewine is not a virtualiser07:00
tonyyarussoJordan_U, AnonymousCoward: That is likely to get you a pre-release, unfinal, unofficial image by mistake.  Just wait for the announcement.07:00
MagicFabmax__, just ask07:00
MTughanmax__: Describe your problem.07:00
tonyyarussoLunz: You don't.  exe files are for Windows.07:00
BlindSideit runs the exec like any other07:00
lethallunz: wine application.exe07:00
MTughanWINE stands for "WINE is not an emulator".07:00
BlindSideyeah exactly :D07:00
BlindSideor used to07:00
Artemis3just wine whatever.exe07:00
BlindSidethey changed it to something else now07:00
max__yesterday i installed gutsy on a notebook, all ok.it runs!07:00
cubeall glorious wine07:00
Artemis3might not work tho07:00
Siropelwhat's the channle of the release party?:)07:00
BlindSidemake sure to cd to the directory07:01
Lunzso i need to install wine to open exe file?07:01
BlindSideand run it in console07:01
tonyyarusso!topic | Siropel07:01
ubotuSiropel: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic07:01
FlannelSiropel: #ubuntu-release-party07:01
MTughan#ubuntu-release-party07:01
cubelunz yes07:01
BlindSidedont just set it as a default app07:01
max__after that i put my cd in the home pc and it doesn't start07:01
callocxRemember.. a vampire never drinks.... wine07:01
Woodersonhow do i get to my desktop07:01
max__it put me on a  busybox shell07:01
MTughanAnd #wehatevista07:01
max__with no errors07:01
Woodersonsudo desktop doesnt work07:01
IpMooBetamax__:   7.10.1b   was  fine  wxcept  for the last few  updates07:01
IpMooBetaexcept  ..too07:01
Siropelthanks07:01
max__i also tried to install 7.04 but...same error07:02
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Jordan_Umax__, That could mean many things, wait for the final and try it ( or try the final Alternate install CD which does not have most of the problems that get you dropped to a busybox shell on the LiveCD )07:02
Lunzapt-get install wine?07:02
FlannelLunz: yeah.  Here's a good guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine07:03
jdecostemm07:03
hakujust wondering.....does 7.10 live cd works on dell 1520?07:03
jdecosteis there like a way to copy an entire directory ?07:03
jdecosteinclude the .* files ?07:03
MTughancp -r07:03
riotkittiecp -a07:03
kmil0cp -R07:03
riotkittiecp -aR07:03
Lunzthnaks guy07:03
bbymananyone know what time 7.1 will be officially ready for download on ubuntu's site?07:03
rskhaku: i even think dell has mastered cd's for ubuntu . but should work fine with vanilla 7.10 or 7.0407:03
jdecostethx guys :)07:03
Flannelbbyman: no, no one does.07:04
CoasterMasterbbyman: nobody knows, but within the next 24 hours07:04
Tesla|Workbbyman: nope07:04
JunK-Ybbyman: in the next 24 hours.07:04
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bbymangrrrr, I want to upgrade my fiesty the easy and official way07:04
hakumy 1520 comes with XP not ubuntu :p07:04
[chr0n0s]haku : ublucky07:04
[chr0n0s]unkucky*07:04
Woodersonhow do i run a program in terminal...07:04
rskhaku: yes.07:04
[chr0n0s]Wooderson : what program ?07:05
rskhaku: dell still make mastered 7.04 cd's.07:05
Jordan_UWooderson, Type the name of the program then hit enter07:05
bonei'd use cp -Rp just so that it keeps permissions in check correctly.07:05
Woodersonwell im trying to install this vmware thing07:05
hakuchronos: no choice, Dell is not selling Dell+Ubuntu in my country~07:05
Woodersonand i double clicked it and click all the options but it didnt do anything07:05
rskhaku: if you bought a dell with linux you would get it. (why didn't you?)07:05
Jordan_UWooderson, Use vmware from the repositories07:05
rskah.07:05
[chr0n0s]haku : unlucky07:05
hakuyeah07:05
hakuunlucky for me07:05
[chr0n0s]me too :(07:05
Woodersoni have no idea what your talking about07:05
MTughanapt-get07:06
hakuthats why i plan to install 7.1007:06
canerit has been 9 hours people07:06
Jordan_UWooderson, You probably want VMware server, you were given a link detailing how to install it, I'll give it again07:06
[chr0n0s]Jordan_U : i think he needs mOre explainiation07:06
Jordan_U!vmware | Wooderson07:06
ubotuWooderson: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers07:06
[chr0n0s]!vmware07:06
lewis1711hello all. so Uh i messed with my xconf file. which caused me to not be able to use the GUI, just command line. So I used command line to delete the xconf file, restarted, and now I can use the GUI. I have a xorg.conf.backup, would it have automatically used that?07:06
hakulewis....overwrite the current conf with your backup?07:07
Jordan_Ulewis1711, No, X just doesn't need an Xorg.conf most of the time, it just figures it out when it starts :)07:07
[chr0n0s]lewis1711 : use dpkg-reconfigure xorg.cong07:07
[chr0n0s]lewis1711 : use dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf07:07
lewis1711chr0n0s, what will that do?07:07
[chr0n0s]damn07:07
[chr0n0s]wait07:07
bone^--- what he said. twice even07:08
Tesla|Worksudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server07:08
Jordan_U!xconfig | lewis171107:08
ubotulewis1711: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes07:08
Tesla|Work?07:08
lewis1711the reason I messed around with it in the first place was because it was not allowing me to change my screen resolution. this has lead me on a wondorous journey of linux self-discovery;)07:08
CITguyno "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"07:08
Tesla|Workah. vice-versa :-)07:08
Psi-JackHmmm07:08
[chr0n0s]lewis1711 : use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:08
Jordan_UPsi-Jack, Any PulseAudio progress?07:08
[chr0n0s]wrist hurting :(07:09
Psi-JackSeems PulseAudio, using pacmd's list-sources, shows my USB headset as it's default. LOL07:09
Woodersonok ok new question... how do i run a deb file thru the terminal?07:09
lewis1711which will create a new xcorg.conf file?07:09
Psi-JackTHEN my SBLive, THEN My nForce2.07:09
Gustavo7.10 yehaaa !!!!07:09
[chr0n0s]lewis1711 : try07:09
AhadielAnyone know what kernel 7.10 uses?07:09
whiskeytangoOk, so now that i have gutsy, thanks guys, my processors are running at 50% constantly.07:09
Psi-JackAhadiel: www.ubuntu.com expresses this. ;)07:09
[chr0n0s]whiskeytango : that's bad.. isn't it ?07:09
whiskeytangoYes.07:09
whiskeytangoAny ideas on why this would happen?07:10
CITguyMy beta is 2.6.22-1407:10
lewis1711oh, this program. I have used this before and it does not seem to do anything of use. my monitor was working perfectly before, KDE write over it when I installed it I think...07:10
musikgoatAhadiel: I'm using 2.6.22-14-38607:10
Jordan_Uwhiskeytango, Is it really running at 50% or are you just looking at the CPU frequency %07:10
Jordan_U?07:10
Woodersoni have this DEB file and i need to run it thru the terminal for it to work sudo install file.deb?07:10
lewis1711chr0n0s, I already have my graphics card driver enabled07:10
Ahadielbtw Psi-Jack, it does not say the kernel version on the Ubuntu page.07:10
FlannelWooderson: dpkg -i [deb]07:10
lewis1711so that is not the problem07:11
Woodersonok hold on let me try that07:11
whiskeytangoMy little light is flashing.  And in system monitor it shows 50% on both processors07:11
wckdkl0wnok the person i am trying to connect to with ssh has forwarded port 22 but i keep getting connection refused07:11
igorcHi07:11
MTughanYou have a question?07:11
* CITguy says "Hi back"07:11
igorcI have a question07:11
wckdkl0wnis there a step i am missing?07:11
Psi-JackAhadiel: Ubuntu includes the latest Linux kernel, featuring dynticks. It allows the processor to use less power and produce less heat. For laptops this means more battery life and burn-free laps and for desktops and media center PCs, a quieter, cooler environment.07:11
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: does the server hosting the ssh connection have its gateway enabled?07:11
MTughanWell, say it then.07:11
Jordan_Uwckdkl0wn, I assume that they have openssh-server installed?07:11
[chr0n0s]!ask | wckdkl0wn07:11
ubotuwckdkl0wn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:11
WoodersonFlannel: it says i nee super user access07:12
AhadielPsi-Jack, That doesn't seem like a VERSION to me.07:12
[chr0n0s]!ask | igorc07:12
ubotuigorc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:12
whiskeytangosudo :D07:12
wckdkl0wnmusikgoat, how would i check?07:12
musikgoatask the admin of that server07:12
igorcI just installed compiz and when i ran compiz --replace i dont get any title bars07:12
Psi-JackAhadiel: www.linux.org will tell you the latest version.07:12
musikgoatis it running ubuntu?07:12
MTughanigorc: restart the window manager.07:12
wckdkl0wnmusikgoat, he wouldnt know and yes its running ubuntu07:12
musikgoatcat /etc/network/interfaces   and look for gateway07:12
igorcmuskigoat how?07:12
Psi-JackHmm, but current is 2.6.23. Heh07:12
Jordan_Uwckdkl0wn, I assume that they have openssh-server installed?07:12
MTughanI saw the same thing on Fedora with Beryl.07:13
whiskeytangoHowever, when i go to processes the only thing using more than 1% is the system monitor heh07:13
bozniI'm trying to access my ntfs raid volume but can't figure out how with dmraid, anyone willing to help?07:13
CITguyigorc: CTRL+ALT+Backspace07:13
Woodersondpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege07:13
AhadielPsi-Jack, That's what I was wondering, if 7.10 had .22 or if they went for .2307:13
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: this is as long as DCHP is not being enabled07:13
Jordan_Uwhiskeytango, I think that you are mistaking the CPU frequency for CPU usage07:13
lethaltry top or htop to see what is using all the processor power07:13
Psi-JackAhadiel: Presently 2.6.22, but it MAY go 2.6.23, doubtfully though.07:13
musikgoatif so... then my thought is wrong07:13
igorcOkey i will try07:13
FlannelPsi-Jack: .22 is in gutsy07:14
igorcThat, gives me my title bars back but compiz does not run07:14
Psi-JackJordan_U: Still can't figure out how to get PulseAudio to use my SBLive as the default devices. :/07:14
lewis1711ok I used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh, and it tells me i have a list of resolutions enabled. however when I try and change my screen resolution with the display settings app, I only have two options available. can anyone help?07:14
wckdkl0wnJordan_U, openssh-server just installed now07:14
Psi-JackFlannel: Yes. I know.  I'm using Gutsy. :p07:14
whiskeytangoFrequency would not make my system usage light flash constantly would it?07:14
[chr0n0s]i try different stuff told by ppl here, and stupidly pressed ctrl+alt+bksp07:14
Jordan_Uwckdkl0wn, Should work now then :)07:14
wckdkl0wnok07:14
lewis1711so close to a break through07:14
bozniAnyone have any helpful hints on mounting a ntfs raid volume so I can access it in Gutsy?07:14
keycool1ah gutsy07:15
igorcanybody have any other ideas why i have no title bars in compiz?07:15
rglhi07:16
musikgoatigorc: you don't have emerald installed?07:16
Jordan_Uigorc, Doesn't really solve the root problem but try emerald instead07:16
igorcmuskikgoat i installed emerald07:16
igorcand it does not help07:16
musikgoatigorc: did you start it?07:16
riotkittiedid you run emerald --replace ?07:16
igorcJust ran it, nothing07:17
* TheCrowX slaps YodaRocksMySocks around a bit with a large trout07:17
smmagicIt worked! :D Bye windows07:17
* CITguy is happy for the loss of another Window$ Box07:17
lewis1711in windows I can at least right click and change my screen resolution:/07:17
rredd4will a nvidia geforce2 vid card work with compiz on gutsy?07:17
TECH_1Me 207:17
TECH_1No more windoze.07:18
boznishould07:18
rsklewis1711: yea biggest flaw in ubuntu i think07:18
lewis1711rredd4, you'll need to download a driver for it but AFAIK yes07:18
smmagicI thought minimum was GEforce3?07:18
musikgoatlewis1711: you can do alot of things in windows differently than in ubuntu07:18
scguy318lewis1711: edit your xorg.conf, fill in for horiz/vert sync?07:18
cukeyIs there a dvd for ubuntu with got all the packets that I can think of needing?07:18
lewis1711you can. I am just bitter because I have been trying to do this for 3 days;)07:18
bonewhats a right click... :)07:18
smmagicThe only problem is on the dual boot screen there is still a option for windows07:18
* YodaRocksMySocks slaps TheCrowX with a big ubuntu logo :)07:18
cukeyor dvds to be correct07:18
TECH_1I even smoke less now that windows is gone.07:18
smmagicHow do I get rid of that?07:19
musikgoatctrl+click?07:19
igorcthis is starting to become upsetting07:19
lewis1711scguy318, I have my vertical and horizontal sync in it. however I have no xorg.conf file anymore07:19
bozniSo, no one has a clue about accessing ntfs raid volumes in Ubuntu?07:19
rredd4lewisl711  which driver?07:19
lewis1711I have xorg.conf.backup file though07:19
Jordan_Ulewis1711, Do you have the right drivers installed?07:19
lewis1711yes07:19
lewis1711it worked fine until I installed KDE07:19
boneKDE is the devil07:19
TECH_1loo07:19
lewis1711I am currently on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh trying to figure out how to enable more resolutions07:19
wckdkl0wnJordan_U, what would cause the connection to hang? i did ssh root@ip and i think its tryin to connect but its just hanging07:19
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: root is disabled by defualt i thought07:20
timfrostbone, musikgoat, right-click = click the right-hand mouse button07:20
lewis1711yeah, I was perfectly happy with XFCE 4 but I was curious about KDE and now I'm screwed;)07:20
rredd4lewis1711  which driver please07:20
musikgoattimfrost: i was kidding ;-)07:20
ozzcomethow do i upgrade to ubnut gutsy remotly (via ssh terminal)07:20
Jordan_Ulewis1711, If it worked until you installed KDE then it's not an xorg.conf problem, you just have the wrong resolution choice in KDE07:20
ykffflewis1711: do you have a root account on the remote mashine07:20
robc4anyone taken the Ubuntu Professional Certification tests?07:20
rskozzcomet: edit sources.list and then sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade07:21
wckdkl0wnmusikgoat, it does the same with their username as well07:21
bonetimfrost, that doesnt do anything in CLI.07:21
TECH_1I tried Mandrake kde..I found it to be nothing more that (1Ply) potty papper.07:21
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: it hangs without failing?07:21
lewis1711Jordan_U, I cannot change the resolution in KDE either07:21
lewis1711and ykfff, yes07:21
wckdkl0wnmusikgoat, yes07:21
Jordan_Ulewis1711, If it worked before then just copy your xorg.conf-bak to xorg.conf and change the resolution with the GUI in KDE07:21
cypherdelic!topic07:21
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lewis1711rredd4, NVIdia accelerated graphics driver07:21
Jordan_Ulewis1711, Before or after messing with your xorg.conf?07:21
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: can you ssh elsewhere?07:22
ykfffwckdkl0wn:  do you have a root account on the remote mashine07:22
rredd4lewis1711  ty07:22
Lunzcan someone help me with this error07:22
Lunzbash: youtubed-2x.py: command not found07:22
lewis1711Jordan_U, I can't rename my xorg.config.backup. there is no option to rename it. I don't have an xorg.conf file right now07:22
wckdkl0wnmusikgoat, yes i can ssh to my shell   and ykfff yes i have the pass for the root on that system07:22
Jordan_ULunz, What are you trying to do / where are you getting that error?07:22
smmagicIs there anyway to get direct draw on wine?07:22
musikgoatLunz ./youtubed-2x.py07:22
lewis1711Jordan_U I have only been messing with my xorg.conf things to fix this problem since i installed KDE07:22
scguy318smmagic: Wine has DirectDraw functionality07:23
ozzcometrsk: what do i need to change in the sources.list file in order to have it work?07:23
MTughan#wehatevista07:23
Lunzwhat is ./ for?07:23
smmagicDoesn't work though07:23
scguy318smmagic: its not something you need to install, and you shouldn't try anyway, native DLLs just will fail07:23
MTughan./ refers to the current directory.07:23
Jordan_Ulewis1711, Again, if KDE caused the problems, editing your xorg.conf won't fix them07:23
scguy318smmagic: what app?07:23
rskozzcomet: change feisty to gutsy07:23
smmagicUmm lieroX07:23
smmagicProbably never heard of it07:23
smmagicI'll put exact error07:23
lewis1711Jordan_U, what should I do then? uninstall KDE? and do you know how to create another xorg.conf file as I dont have one07:24
lewis1711oh wait yes i do07:24
ykfffwckdkl0wn: try a normal user on that box root accses might be disabled which is a good idea anyway07:24
lewis1711but hmm07:24
Jordan_Ulewis1711, to copy back your old xorg.conf that worked ( which xorg.conf-bak hopefully is ) run "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf"07:24
scguy318smmagic: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3232&iTestingId=6804 might be of interest07:24
Gustavowhat happens www.ubuntu.com ?07:24
timfrostbone, do you have gpm installed?  That gives copy/paste in a text-mode terminal (ALT-F1, etc)07:24
underwatercowwhat does this mean? sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 18 11:06:58 200707:24
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: can he ssh user@localhost?07:24
scguy318smmagic: I'm surprised it hasn't been tested in along time, perhaps you would like to be the first to test for latest 0.9.47?07:24
TECH_1loo07:24
bonetimfrost, i was joking as well, but thanks for at least trying to diagnose whats going on.07:24
lewis1711Jordan_U that backup did work *until* I installed KDE. I did not mess with my xorg.conf file until KDE caused this problem07:25
lewis1711so that file no longer 'works'07:25
Jordan_Ulewis1711, You probably just need to go into the KDE settings GUI somewhere and choose the resolution you want, but that will only work with a working xorg.conf07:25
smmagicFailed to set the video more 640x480x1607:25
aribswhy everybody is downloading gutsy ??? cannot just wait ...07:25
lewis1711Jordan_U I am unable to do so07:25
lewis1711as soon as I installed KDE it stuck me on one resolution07:25
smmagicErrorMsg: DirectDrawSurface: :Release: UNknown07:25
lewis1711and when I rebooted everything was stuck in giant mode07:25
scguy318smmagic: perhaps you would like to file a bug?07:25
smmagicDirectDraw error: 0x107:25
Artemis3aribs, because torrents work better with lots of people :)07:25
Jordan_Ulewis1711, And you tried KDE's resolution switcher *before* touching your xorg.conf ?07:26
scguy318smmagic: this game has not been tested since 2005052407:26
smmagicGreat..07:26
lewis1711yes, Jordan_U, there were no options to change resolution in the KDE GUI07:26
aribsowh07:26
lewis1711I had once choise07:26
TECH_1I clicked on (clean boot) in boot up mngr and it fixed my resolution07:26
lewis1711actually...it would let me move the slider but the screen resolution changes wouldn't take effect07:26
Jordan_Ulewis1711, I am sure there are, you just missed them, ask in #kubuntu where it is07:26
Lunzhow do i upgrade my firefox?07:26
smmagicSo it doesn't work..07:26
aroonii need to fun fsck on my ubuntu 7.04 desktop from a live cd.  what command line options should i pass it when i boot from livecd?  i want it to repair every file system possible.07:26
scguy318smmagic: apparently not, I'll obtain and file07:27
stone-unixhey, buddy, does anyone know "ashleigh" means originally?? i need it urgently. i am from china.07:27
lewis1711no, I was at the place where you change resolution. I changed it, and nothing happened07:27
bozniCan someone help me with mounting my ntfs windows raid partition?07:27
nysosymeverything works fine :)07:27
nysosymbut the sound is a little bit crappy on my macbook, against osx07:27
nysosymsounds like an old radio :D07:27
Jordan_Ulewis1711, Ahh, that is not the same as there not being an option :)07:27
BeketHello people. Isn't there a livecd for 7.x ?07:27
smmagicThat was a fun game..07:27
lewis1711yeah, whoops;)07:27
stone-unixhey, buddy, does anyone know "ashleigh" means originally?? i need it urgently. i am from china.07:27
[chr0n0s]Beket : there is07:27
wckdkl0wnmusikgoat, Permission denied (publickey,password). thats what he gets07:27
scguy318smmagic: in the interim, you may wish to consider a VM solution07:28
Jordan_Ulewis1711, What about when you log into gnome instead of KDE?07:28
stone-unixa friend asked me just now.07:28
lewis1711oh and to make matters more interesting I now have two screen resolutions to choose from all of a sudden, and now my NVIDIA graphics driver is not enabled. I am really confused07:28
scguy318smmagic: kinda overkill but it probably should work07:28
Beket[chr0n0s]: It's not linked here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD Would please be so kind as to redirect me ?07:28
Woodersonok i need some help07:28
scguy318!ask07:28
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:28
smmagicCan VM be installed with winxp upgrade disc?07:28
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: and he used his correct username?07:28
wckdkl0wnyes07:28
lewis1711Jordan_U, I am in XFCE 4 right now07:28
Jordan_Ulewis1711, After running the command I gave to restore your old working xorg.conf that is07:28
unikonhow long will it take  until 7.10 will be available on ubuntu.com?07:28
lewis1711should I try gnome?07:28
musikgoatthen ssh is not setup correctly07:28
scguy318smmagic: i believe you can, there are ways to install full from upgrade discs, but lemme lookup07:28
scguy318smmagic: and if you have a physical Windows partition you can run the VM off that07:28
WoodersonThe VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..07:28
smmagic..07:28
lewis1711Jordan_U, it was only working until I installed KDE. but I'll try and restart in gnome07:29
smmagicAnd I deleted windows about 10 mins ago07:29
Jordan_Ulewis1711, No, I am just wondering if there is any DE that gives you full res, does XFCE?07:29
smmagic****!07:29
nanonyme!gutsy > nanonyme07:29
Weng_LapHrm. The nzb package that's on the repository is broken with the current version of openssl.07:29
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: hold on a sec07:29
scguy318Wooderson: add the user to vboxusers07:29
[chr0n0s]Beket : any CD of ubuntu is a live CD, you can install it as an OPTION07:29
Woodersonwhat do i open the file with ?07:29
nanonymeis it released already?07:29
Woodersonit like doesnt open =\07:29
stjjoin #wine07:29
Beketoh thanks [chr0n0s], I didn't know that07:30
MTughan#wehatevista07:30
stone-unixhey, buddy, does anyone know "ashleigh" means literally? i need to know urgently.07:30
keycool1how long will it take  until 7.10 will be available on ubuntu.com?07:30
Woodersonscguy318: how do i open the file07:30
TECH_1loo vista07:30
alromaithi!gutsy07:30
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information07:30
scguy318Wooderson: what file?07:30
cdm10!topic | nanonyme07:30
ubotunanonyme: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic07:30
[chr0n0s]keycool1 : we are hoping less than 24 hours07:30
Woodersonscguy318: vboxusers file in /dev07:30
Jordan_Ukeycool1, 1 hour after the last person who asks07:30
Ademandoes that mean like 12 midnight? or what? what time on the 18th? lol07:30
fredjDoes anyone know what the deal with the Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon release is?07:30
scguy318Wooderson: i said add the user you want VM access to the vboxusers group: sudo usermod -a -G disk <username>07:30
Ademanhahahahahah07:30
riotkittienobody knows what time.07:30
Ademanoh man07:30
scguy318Wooderson: well,07:31
fredjIt said it was released like 2 hours ago. then it changed and said "Beta" is now available07:31
smmagicIs virtualbox just as good as VMWare?07:31
scguy318Wooderson: sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers <username>07:31
Ademanlike 3 people asked the same question as me within 20 seconds of each other07:31
TECH_1Some time today it will be up07:31
scguy318smmagic: probably, doesnt hurt to try, though the USB support is slightly lacking imho07:31
Ademanalso, the channel is inflated to 1400 people, crazy07:31
alromaithiWHERE IS GUTSY07:31
Jordan_Usmmagic, They both have pros and cons07:31
Weng_LapHrm. I guess there's a release tonight.07:31
astro76!caps | alromaithi07:31
ubotualromaithi: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:31
astro76!topic | alromaithi07:31
ubotualromaithi: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic07:31
rskaixing: BEHIND YOU!07:31
smmagicEverything with the pros and cons07:31
riotkittiegutsy is in the same place your ability to turn caps off is, i assume07:31
CITguyalromaithi: It's already come and gone. You missed it.07:31
Woodersonscguy318:  ok brb let me see if it worked07:31
TECH_1loo07:31
boneDo you guys realize that no matter when its released, the servers will be swamped. wait a few days.07:31
RvGaTe^workmorning07:31
unikon                                       /join #ubuntu-release-party07:31
fredjWheres Gutsy?07:32
prakritiweeeeeee07:32
MTughanunikon: use /say07:32
TECH_1Laggers07:32
siriusnovabone - thats why smart people download the RC and just do a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade :P07:32
siriusnovaa few days prior07:32
siriusnovahehe07:32
astro76fredj, #ubuntu-release-party07:32
bonesiriusnova Sush.. hehe07:32
lewis1711Jordan_U, I logged into xubuntu again and everything seems to mysteriously work. what I think must've happened is KDE did something to my graphics driver. I don't know. I'm really confused. but at least it works.=D07:32
prakritiI've been running gutsy for about 2 weeks now.07:32
aroonihey folks.... i have 3 hard drives.... they were working great just a couple days ago.  recently ubuntu has been freezing so i needed to restart my computer .  anyway, now 2 hard drives don't show up anymore in the bios..... what seems wrong ,and what can i do?07:32
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TECH_1How do U like it prak07:33
MTughanAnd since this is a Linux thread, #wehatevista07:33
Jordan_Ulewis1711, KDE almost certainly did not do anything to your driver07:33
prakritiIts nice, runs well.07:33
TECH_1What features R better07:33
alromaithialmost certainly lo07:33
prakritiPrinter support is much better.07:33
TECH_1I c07:34
musikgoatwckdkl0wn  does your friend have a ~/.ssh  directory?07:34
TECH_1Hp imaging?07:34
Jordan_Ulewis1711, KDE can choose between the resolutions the X has setup, those being the ones in your xorg.conf, for some reason it is making the wrong choice. BUt it has nothing to do with the driver, or a problem with your xorg.conf07:34
prakritiEye candy is stock, so I don't have to use trevino repositories.07:34
musikgoatwckdkl0wn: if not,  have him type ssh-add07:34
TraceGreenHello, Can i install grub under Windows? In another word, are there any grub for windows?07:34
Jordan_Ulewis1711, This isn't windows, things are modularized :)07:34
prakritiTraceGreen : grub is before windows07:34
meeperman, synergy is hands down the coolest computer program I've ever seen07:34
lewis1711hmmm07:34
alromaithilewis1711, its due to the updates that made that , and now the other update fixed it :D07:34
lewis1711so many conflicting things happened I have no idea.07:35
abuyazanhi all07:35
meeperit completely solves all my problems haha07:35
lewis1711I am afraid to log back into Kubuntu though incase things screw up again07:35
Andre_Gondimwhere's the gutsy release?07:35
abuyazanhow can i install traditiona arabic font on ubuntu07:35
Woodersonthat didnt work07:35
nrdbTraceGreen: Windows uses its own boot loader, so I don't think so.07:35
alromaithiAndre_Gondim, today is 18th but didthey say what time :D07:35
abuyazanacrobat reader cannot read this font07:35
alromaithii believe its 8 - 11 hours from now07:35
TraceGreenprakriti, I mean, I run grub-install /dev/*da in linux, are there any exe file , which can run in windows.07:35
Jordan_Ulewis1711, Seems pretty simple to me, a bug in KDE choosing the wrong resolution would seem to explain everything you have said07:35
smmagicJust get relase candidate07:36
TraceGreennrdb, Ok, thanks07:36
musikgoatalromaithi: your just guessing07:36
lewis1711Jordan_U, even my graphics card mysterious disabling itself?07:36
Jordan_UTraceGreen, There is, but it's not easy07:36
Psi-JackUrg. PulseAudio is a pain in the arse to setup.07:36
Psi-Jackheh07:36
alromaithimusikgoat, no , i know bunt :)07:36
lewis1711and not being able to change my resolution in any desktop?:/07:36
Andre_Gondimalromaithi, =]07:36
Jordan_Ulewis1711, You didn't tell me about that :)07:36
rredd4how do you "paint fire on the screen"  I have that enabled.07:36
lewis1711haha, yeah, that's why I am so confused07:36
JaYmZi want gutsy!!07:36
Jordan_Urredd4, Look at what the keyboard shortcut is set to07:36
astro76JaYmZ, join #ubuntu-release-party07:36
JaYmZk07:37
JaYmZthanks07:37
JaYmZ:D07:37
lewis1711the important thing is, it's working and I don't have a headache anymore;)07:37
Woodersonok say i installed a program i dont want anymore how do i uninstall it?07:37
nrdbTraceGreen: if you want to run grub, you could boot from the LiveCD, mount the applicable drive and run grub and specify the config file to use.07:37
astro76Wooderson, how did you install it?07:37
Wooderson.deb file07:37
astro76Wooderson, in Synaptic, or apt-get remove packagename07:37
Woodersonastro76:  ok 1 sec07:38
scguy318Wooderson: use Synaptic07:38
ykfffWooderson: sudo apt-get remove package name07:38
Woodersonsynaptic?07:38
scguy318Wooderson: Synaptic Package Manager07:38
rredd4Jordan_U  ty  very cool!07:38
scguy318Wooderson: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager07:38
Woodersoni gotcha07:38
TECH_1loo everyone flocked to releaqse07:39
Ademan1400 users!07:39
blue42it's not out yet though right?07:39
TECH_1Attention walmart shoppers07:39
Ademanaw damn07:39
[Gutsy]willwillhttp://whsgroup.ath.cx/~whs/image/gutsy.jpg <-- No, You can't have a Gutsy07:39
Ademanstupid macintosh07:39
musikgoatspoke too soon07:39
Ademanand chowmeined07:39
ravhey, is the gutsy Upgrade in my update manager the final release version, or the beta version?07:39
alromaithiwhen updating from feisty to gutsy must i remove my install thirdparty compiz that wasnt from the repo07:39
Boumboum5you can still get the RC (beta release version) right now--it's nearly identical to the final release.07:40
Ademanrav: doesn't matter either way it'll be upgrading to the "final" version at some point in time, just go for it07:40
astro76alromaithi, I would considering gutsy includes it now07:40
Woodersonwhere exactly am im looking07:40
leladiapls what command should i use to remove the sixth character of every line in a file?07:40
Boumboum5alromaithi: yes. I saw a webpage from a guy who says he's working on writing a tutorial on how to do that.07:40
scguy318Wooderson: search for whatever the package is that you want to remove07:40
Ademanleladia: why do you want to do that? and honestly i think #bash might be a better place for that question07:40
scguy318Wooderson: then just click the box for that package, mark for (complete) removal, then apply07:40
aribs[Gutsy]willwill: http://whsgroup.ath.cx/~whs/image/gutsy.jpg --> connection refused07:40
scguy318Wooderson: im assuming its virtualbox?07:41
scguy318Wooderson: did my group suggestion not work?07:41
Woodersonya lol07:41
Woodersoni found a tutorial on how to install it correctly07:41
alromaithiso i must remove compiz which was installed from a thirdparty  like forexample the get , but not from repo , i think its dangerouse to update because the built in compiz will clash with thiis one i have unless i remove it ? Or gutsy checks for the identical and do it for me?07:41
RvGaTe^workcan anyone confirm that the "Western Digital Caviar SE 200GB" works on ubuntu?07:41
Woodersongot it ok07:42
Flannelalromaithi: You're better off removing third party stuff07:42
astro76alromaithi, yes that's exactly what I said (remoe it)07:42
Woodersonnow im gonna follow this tutiorial extactly07:42
alromaithihow do  you lo07:42
Boumboum5Wooderson: cool! :)07:42
alromaithii had a tutorial on installing it07:42
scguy318alromaithi: Synaptic or apt-get/aptitude remove07:42
Ayabaraneed some help here. I booted into windows to fix something, and when I booted back into ubuntu something was a bit wrong. all applications seem to work, but, the title bar and frame around the apps are gone. I run compiz.07:42
alromaithino man , its not a package .deb07:42
alromaithiomg :( i need a pro07:42
[Gutsy]willwillaribs$ sorry, that on my home server07:42
scguy318alromaithi: used a script? does the script not have removal?07:42
scguy318RvGaTe^work: I can't confirm 100%, considering that I don't possess such a hard drive, but I imagine it probably does07:42
alromaithii have installed it manually through terminal doing step by step file by file plugin b plugin07:42
[Gutsy]willwillaribs$ fixed07:43
Boumboum5RvGaTe: I can't confirm...but I can testify that I have a 500 gb SATA II drive that works just fine with Ubuntu.07:43
nysosymhow can i activate something like expose in gutsy gibbon?07:43
alromaithii am the script scguy31807:43
Flannelalromaithi: Did you install to /opt or /usr/local by any chance?07:43
alromaithibut i dont know how to rescript my script lo07:43
DShepherdnysosym, shift+alt+up07:43
heartsbloodIs gutsy live now?07:43
towliei just installed ubuntu 7.10 and enabled gl desktop. what do i press to view the desktop in cube mode ?07:43
Boumboum5heartsblood: one more day.07:44
DShepherdheartsblood, not that we know of07:44
kirustrg+alt + left mouse07:44
Blue42ayabara: chances are that's because "beryl-manager" is not running07:44
Boumboum5towlie: i suspect you need to download a compiz fusion manager....07:44
heartsbloodhmm, the site counter says 00 for me07:44
alromaithihmmm how do i know Flannel07:44
nysosymDShepherd: that's a good start thx, but is it possible to aktive them with the top right corner called active edges?07:44
astro76heartsblood, yes, sometime today07:44
towlieBoumboum5, i did07:44
towliei just installed ubuntu 7.10 and enabled gl desktop. what do i press to view the desktop in cube mode ?07:44
DShepherdnysosym, yeah,. install the compiz config manager07:44
heartsbloodoh, 'sometime' today. didn't think about that07:44
kiruwhy is 7.10 not yet released in germany?!?!?07:45
towliei did install compiz config manager07:45
Flannelalromaithi: uh, what are some binaries from compiz?  I'm not familiar with it, but `which [program]` will tell you where the binary is.07:45
astro76heartsblood, in some time zone ;)07:45
towlieoh man i wish i didnt downgrade07:45
alromaithiFlannel, this is the exact way i installed compiz http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=198507:45
TECH_1I just called in sick (cough cough).07:45
nysosymDShepherd: thx you are my hero :)07:45
Boumboum5kiru: different time zones...it's not time yet.07:45
DShepherd!find compizconfig-settings-manager07:45
towlieoh man i wish i didnt upgrade to 7.1007:45
kiruBoumboum5: :'(07:45
ubotuPackage/file compizconfig-settings-manager does not exist in feisty07:45
nysosymtowlie why?07:45
Wistesowhy?07:45
towlieits so damn slow07:45
compengi_RvGaTe^work, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1651.html07:45
DShepherd!find compizconfig-settings-manager gutsy07:45
ubotuFound: compizconfig-settings-manager07:45
Boumboum5towlie: why??07:46
aribstowlieba: what is so damn slow ???07:46
Boumboum5ubotu: that sounds about right07:46
aribstowlieba: what is so damn slow ???07:46
Flannelalromaithi: Luckily, it *appears* that that's all in /usr/local/ which means removal should be fairly painless.  Relatively speaking07:46
aribstowlieba: what is so damn slow ???07:46
compengi_RvGaTe^work, check the post of FSO07:46
heartsbloodI have a question about the feitsty install cd and SATA raid disks.  The install application sees the SATA drives indepedantly not as part of a raid.  Is this normal, or if not what do to get the installer to format ext3 across both disks in the aray/07:46
GastenHey.. Can someone tell me if this ATI-OS-thing includes _all_ the Radeon cards? Is the Radeon X1300 PCI-E Pro supported?07:46
Wistesospam much?07:46
alromaithihuh >D07:46
astro76aribs, no need to repeat...07:46
DShepherd!find compizconfig-settings-manager gutsy | nysosym thats the name..07:46
ubotunysosym thats the name..: Found: compizconfig-settings-manager07:46
Flannelalromaithi: However, the makefile has an uninstall: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showpost.php?s=6b7e5b29f075c335aca1fa70a90fb29b&p=16634&postcount=807:46
aribsastro76: sorry my mistake ...07:47
RvGaTe^workcompengi_, perfect, thx :)07:47
Boumboum5RAID is outside my competence. :(  I'm still learning Ubuntu myself.07:47
compengi_RvGaTe^work, np :)07:47
Flannelalromaithi: or, so that forum claims anyway.  Even if it doesnt, since its in your local stuff, its definatey doable07:47
heartsbloodhmm07:47
alromaithifflannethanks now i can update07:47
fiveofoh_settler#ubuntu-release-party07:47
fiveofoh_settlerrrr07:47
alromaithido i go for rc version of gutsy or wait for release?07:47
Boumboum5Gasten: ALL the ATI cards? not likely. But at worst, you should still be able to use Ubuntu with any ati card you have--you simply might not be able to take full advantage of the card's features.07:48
aroonifolks, im trying to boot from the live cd, (nvidia graphics card, and intel core2 duo), i get: busybox: can't access tty; job control turned off07:48
arooniany idea son how to fix07:48
AyabaraBlue42: beryl-manager is not even installed, but it worked before I rebooted.07:48
AyabaraBlue42: do I need beryl-manager to run Compiz?07:48
DShepherdalromaithi, what ever makes you happy..07:48
Gastenalromaithi: the realese is today, so wait!07:48
no_mindis gutsy based on  2.6.22 kernel ?07:48
DShepherdalromaithi, they all lead to the same end07:48
musikgoatno_mind: yes07:48
* [Gutsy]willwill operation cwal07:48
astro76Gasten, well the tradeoff is the servers will be bogged upon release ;)07:48
alromaithithanks all07:48
Jordan_UAnyone know around how long until Dell starts shiping with Gutsy?07:48
musikgoat2.6.22-14 is my beta07:48
Woodersonhow do i get module assistant?07:49
musikgoat*my kernel in the beta07:49
minus_Meh! Havn't they release 7.10 yet :(07:49
TerrosAnyone have fluxbuntu screenshots?07:49
scguy318arooni: try booting with all_generic_ide kernel option07:49
jscinozno gutsy final yet? :'(07:49
scguy318arooni: else just install with alternate CD07:49
thoreauputicjscinoz: /topic07:49
heartsbloodWhat I dont understand is why it will let me format each disk independantly.   Well that's a lie, I havn't actually formated them out of fear of the unknown.  I can however see each device in the partiion wizard and select ext3 partion sizes.  One thing to note however is only one of the drives is listed as having "Free space" and i'm wondering if that is significant.07:49
scguy318smmagic: i reproduced your error07:49
Woodersonscguy318: sudo module-assistant is an unknown command...07:49
Boumboum5alromaithi: I have read, that to beat the "rush hour" with possible down servers due to excessive demand, get the RC version now...then when the final is available just run "update" and that'll convert the RC to Final for you...without having to download the whole final thing.07:49
GastenBoumboum5: well, I was only asking about the radeon-family.. There is so many different information about which cards is OS'ed out there...07:49
Blue42ayabara:  try starting the compiz-manager07:49
musikgoatTerros: fluxbuntu?  seems ironic when torrent flux has its own interface07:50
scguy318Wooderson: sudo apt-get action module-assistant?07:50
smmagicThankyou07:50
scguy318Wooderson: what are you trying to do with it?07:50
Blue42ayabara: that thing might not be started when you rebooted07:50
GastenBoumboum5: I'm browsing for new hardware, so that's why I'm concerned.07:50
K-4UHi, i have just put in another graphical card in my ubuntu box. and if i now start ubuntu, it tells me 'no screens found' How can i easilly reconfigure my xserver?07:50
Woodersonsudo module-assistant prepare07:50
Woodersonsudo module-assistant update07:50
Terrosmusikgoat, fluxbuntu.org07:50
DShepherd!find compizconfig-settings-manager gutsy | Ayabara  that the name of the manager07:50
ubotuayabara  that the name of the manager: Found: compizconfig-settings-manager07:50
TerrosBut only small screen up there.07:50
TerrosI wonns see that big.07:50
Terros^_^07:50
musikgoatTerros: yeah i see that nice to see07:50
Terros*wonna07:50
scguy318Wooderson: you trying to install module-assistant? just do sudo apt-get install module-assistant07:51
scguy318Wooderson: seems awful lot of work just for VirtualBox, the deb works just fine07:51
tw2113omg omg omg ubuntu ships soon *boner*07:51
* enyc meeps07:51
Boumboum5Gasten: yes, true. Ubuntu video card support is pretty good now, though--but not perfect.07:51
Woodersoni like tutorials07:51
musikgoatTerros: is this wrong? http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pos=-78207:51
KaeporaShouldn't 7.10 be released now?07:51
KaeporaAnywhere I can download?07:51
Boumboum5tw2113: O.o07:51
VoXKaepora: look at the topic07:51
astro76Kaepora, why?07:51
minus_Kaepora, I say the same...07:51
slimjimflim_anybody know how to get divx support in firefox?anybody know how to get divx support in firefox?07:51
K-4Ui have just put in another graphical card in my ubuntu box. and if i now start ubuntu, it tells me 'no screens found' How can i easilly reconfigure my xserver?07:51
AyabaraBlue42: nothing happens even if I start up ccsm07:51
minus_It should be released! :P07:52
slimjimflim_*just once07:52
scguy318K-4U: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:52
GastenBoumboum5: okay. I have great beliefe in the open source comunity, so I'll go with it...07:52
scguy318K-4U: in Recovery Mode07:52
K-4Uscguy318: thnx07:52
Blue42ayabara: ok... you using an nvidia card by chance?07:52
scguy318Wooderson: your tutorial is making you do alot of work lol07:52
Boumboum5Kaepora: not yet, from what I hear.....any hour now though... lol07:52
Terrosmusikgoat, this is ugly 7.04 design. I though someone see beta 7.10.07:52
Woodersonya well better to learn the hard way i guess.. it will make me learn some of the commands07:52
AyabaraBlue42: nope. ati graphics07:52
kaushalhi07:53
Jordan_Uslimjimflim_, right click -> Open in Movie player07:53
musikgoatTerros: i c07:53
slimjimflim_jordan-U, i mean to play streaming, embedded divx07:53
Jordan_Uslimjimflim_, once you have done that it will work in the browser from then on07:53
kaushalwhen i look for ubuntu 7.10 it still isnt available for download07:53
TerrosYou have some screens from it?07:53
slimjimflim_ok07:53
net_maskThu Oct 18 00:53:29 MDT 2007 : where is the iso!!!07:53
net_mask:P07:53
Boumboum5Terros: the look of the desktop is highly customizable....I had a theme that made it look like vista..there's other themes that reproduce OS X and many other different looks and color schemes and designs.07:53
[Gutsy]willwill@now07:53
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: October 18 2007, 06:53:56 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day07:53
Blue42ayabara: see if this forum topic has the solution for you... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54580607:53
kaushalit was supposed to be released today07:53
cdm10kaushal: look at the topic07:54
astro76!topic | kaushal07:54
ubotukaushal: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic07:54
Blue42ayabara: seems to have what you describe07:54
tw2113someone want to e-mail me when gutsy ships?07:54
Jordan_Uslimjimflim_, Totem will grab the codecs you need, and it will use them in it's firefox plugin as well07:54
motin_0so..... when does 7.10 come? 18-okt-2007 08:5407:54
tw2113please?07:54
K-4Uscguy318: great! it works. thnx a lot!!07:54
tw2113i don't know how to use the interweb07:54
K-4Umotin_0: which timezone?:P07:54
Boumboum5still only 11:54PM here in Seattle.07:54
scguy318K-4U: np07:54
kaushalthanks07:54
motin_0K-4U: GMT+107:54
mindrapetw2113 - sure!  Can I clean your house and do your laundry too?07:54
TerrosBoumboum5, never seen before a REAL nice flux theme. In small screen fluxbunto 7.10 i see something interesting.07:54
slimjimflim_maybe my problem is that totem isn't installed07:54
[Gutsy]willwillnow it 1.54 pm in bangkok(with ntp)07:54
K-4Umotin_0: okay.. the time looked fammiliour07:54
tw2113no, that'd be creepy07:55
tw2113besides i practice nudism half the time07:55
motin_0the counter looks rather strange saying 00 days :)07:55
alromaithiFlannel, i did make uninstall for each folder lo07:55
Woodersonscguy318:  i think your right this tutorial isnt working =\07:55
SoulChildhey all i have a samsung q45 and although modulke ipw3945 is loaded i have no wireless lan device, please help07:55
slimjimflim_nm07:55
alromaithistill compiz effects are working tho Flannel07:55
motin_0and linking to the beta07:55
motin_0rc07:55
enyctw2113: mayxe there is an announce list07:55
Boumboum5Terros: I hope to make my own theme when I become more expert in Ubuntu's innards.07:55
MickeyFinhmm is there any tool like cp but that shows the bitrate with which is copying?07:55
TerrosFlux seems like ugliest wm ever. xD Hope that fluxbuntu change that.07:55
tw2113doh, stupid me07:55
scguy318Wooderson: the deb does the job perfectly tbh07:55
tw2113where's that at? fedoraproject.org?07:55
astro76tw2113, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce07:56
[Gutsy]willwillTerros$ isn't icewm or wmaker look more ugly?07:56
tw2113doh, stupid me again07:56
Jordan_Uslimjimflim_, That would do it :) "sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer totem-mozilla"07:56
Boumboum5heh07:56
slimjimflim_jordan_U, i can't click on it, i just get 'click here to download plugin' and then it says intstall manually07:56
slimjimflim_ohok07:56
Flannelalromaithi: You need to do it in the folder with the source.  That of course assumes you still have that folder07:56
tw2113so how about that swirly wallpaper07:56
motin_0so - can we expect users being able to upgrade this time you think?07:56
motin_0for me dapper -> edgy failed07:56
motin_0so I reinstalled when feisty got there to be able to go from dapper -> feisty07:56
Jordan_Uslimjimflim_, It should be installed by default though, don't know why you don't have it already07:57
slimjimflim_kubuntu maybe?07:57
Boumboum5tw2113: yuck....I swapped it out for another....a forested nature scene.. :)07:57
Terros[Gutsy]willwill, IceWM can look preaty clean.07:57
Jordan_Umotin_0, You will have to go Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty07:57
scguy318MickeyFin: file managers can probably show progress, like Midnight Commander07:57
slimjimflim_jordan_U, it's all good, those packages worked07:57
TerrosFlux always look like something not complitted yet.07:57
tw2113back when i had feisty on my laptop, i put in fedora's DNA wallpaper07:57
slimjimflim_ty07:57
Jordan_Uslimjimflim_, np :)07:57
Boumboum5<--not really into the brown/orange color theme of Ubuntu.....but otherwise it's one of the best linux distros I've tried--the first one to recognize both my wifi card and my nvidia graphics card right out of the box.07:58
alromaithiFlannel, but i did what fyda explained , i dont understand so i delete the files from my home folder ? isnt the program running in the heart of linux with the lib files ? i remember installing many lib's :/07:58
motin_0Jordan_U: nope, I installed feisty on top of dapper partitions, then restorted /home and /etc + some other stuff from backup07:58
Jordan_UBoumboum5, sudo apt-get install blubuntu-look07:58
Boumboum5Jordan_U: cool :)  lemme try that! :)07:58
Flannelalromaithi: No.  Don't delete your home folder.  Your home folder won't need to be deleted.  The stuff you need to delete is some of the files in /usr/local/, things in /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib, and so on07:58
blaydeJordan_U: does that change the usplash theme as well?07:59
AdemanFlannel: sudo rm -Rf /usr/local  ?07:59
FlannelAdeman: No07:59
Jordan_UBoumboum5, It will just add new themes and desktop backgrounds, you have to actually select them IIRC07:59
Jordan_Ublayde, No07:59
Weng_LapOn the subject of looks... Are there any plans for a 64bit Ubuntu Studio? Like, ever? So I don't have to hack and slash and break things to make visual theme work on 64bit Ubuntu?07:59
Boumboum5brb...rebooting into Ubuntu (I'm in Win XP now)07:59
shtoomHi I was trying to upgrade to gusty from fawn using "update-manager -d"  after full day of downloads its now throwing a lof errors any help or how to about fixing this , now even update manager it self is not starting07:59
musikgoatanyone know how to cat html from a live page?07:59
alromaithiFlannel, thanks now i know what program files mean in linux lo07:59
Boumboum5Shtoom: you can't upgrade directly from any version earlier than Feisty.08:00
KoweSixproblem: i mount an encrypted container file (on an external ntfs file, container also ntfs).. it's mounted, but i cant access it via the gui/cli... but when i start for example xmms via cli with "sudo xmms", i can browse the directories on it and play stuff.. anyone got a clue how to get access for it?! Oo08:00
astro76musikgoat, wget?08:00
Weng_Lapmusikgoat: Some piping from wget probably.08:00
Jordan_Ushtoom, What kind of errors, can you pastebin them?08:00
FlannelWeng_Lap: 32bit themes should work on 64bit ubuntu08:00
Boumboum5brb08:00
ActySoftsI'm wondering if the 64-bit version can be also used on intel's core duo & core quad?08:00
FlannelWeng_Lap: or rather, there's no difference between 32 and 64bit themes08:00
Jordan_UFlannel, I would hope so :)08:00
musikgoatthanks astro76 and Weng_Lap08:00
lewis1711do i need to restart before changes I make in "preferred applications" take place?08:00
alromaithiFlannel,  last question :( i cant delete them no permission08:01
ldhi, I'm confused, on www.ubuntu.com I see that I can get the "7.10 beta" version of ubuntu and that the "final version will be available on the 18th of october"... so if I download 7.10 now, what will I get, the beta or the final 7.10 version?08:01
dublpawsmusikgoat: elinks -dump www.yourpage.com08:01
Weng_LapFlannel: Yeah, they do, but it's a pain to get it since there's no x64 repository for Ubuntu Studio08:01
shtoomBoumboum5:I am upgrading from fiesty fawn08:01
kiruwhere do i find when ubuntu will be released in .de?08:01
tw2113so, how does one ubuntu himself?08:01
musikgoatdublpaws: i'll check that out08:01
FlannelWeng_Lap: ah, you should ask in #ubuntustudio, theyre the people that do it08:01
Lunzanyone using youtube-2x here?08:01
heartsbloodDoes anybody know if FAKEraid is part of the Gutsy install package?08:01
Jordan_Utw2113, Very carefully08:01
MickeyFinscguy318, yeah mc shows it thx08:01
astro76kiru, it will be released everywhere in the world at the same time, some time in the next 24 hours08:01
Flannelheartsblood: You'll want the alternate CD08:01
Weng_LapFlannel: Good point.08:01
Flannelalromaithi: you'll need to use sudo08:01
kiruastro76: it is not yet released?!08:01
scguy318MickeyFin: np08:02
alromaithiFlannel, sudo ? sudo delete ? or :/08:02
astro76kiru, you expected it at 12:01 am? ;)08:02
heartsbloodFlannel: I was wondering about that, the alternate cd has the dmraid package?08:02
ccharlesis it safe, to do a "do-release-upgrade" inside a feisty chroot (to get the chroot up to gutsy)?08:02
AyabaraBlue42: thanks for the tip, but it doesn't seem to work08:02
Lunz!youtube08:02
astro76kiru, /join #ubuntu-release-party08:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:02
student23What packages do I have to reconfigure to get the main console have appropriate characters?08:02
Flannelheartsblood: yeah, alternate CD has support for RAIDs and LVM and stuff like that08:02
kiruastro76: I expected it at midnight, GMT + 208:02
tw2113does it take a certain level of maturity to do ubuntu yourself right?08:02
ActySoftscan the 64-bit version be used on intl's core duo & quad cpus?08:02
JaYmZ!youtube08:02
shtoomJordan:there were a lot many errors that were reported during upgradation process the dialogs were such that I couldn't do much about them finnaly I've seen in update manager terminal "updating geany " and updat manager disappeared after that08:02
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heartsbloodahhhh08:02
astro76kiru, that's kind of silly08:02
endlessurfcan you to to systems update manager to get gutsy yet?08:02
DShepherdendlessurf, not until its out08:03
kiruastro76: you think i am silly?08:03
* ld is frustrated08:03
endlessurfbut it is thurday08:03
vega-kiru: yes08:03
Jordan_Ushtoom, Can you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and pastebin the output?08:03
bullgard4What is the purpose of the currently mounted filesystem 'varrun' which the df command shows? I could not google its function.08:03
heartsbloodFlannel, do you know where I could find the gutsy alternate x86_84 alternate image?08:03
endlessurfDShepherd it is 120308:03
DShepherdendlessurf, yeah its thursday here too.. not sure whats the hold up08:03
Flannelalromaithi: you're going to have to prefix your commands with sudo to get them to work on system directories.  If you want to do it graphically, alt-f2 then `gksu nautilus` and it'll open a root nautilus window.  Delete stuff and close that window as soon as possible.  DONT use it to do anything else.08:03
vega-kiru: it gets released when it gets released, stop asking08:03
endlessurfhahha ok08:03
DShepherdendlessurf, its 2:03 :-)08:03
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Flannelheartsblood: Gutsy isn't released yet, but the alternate images are in the same places as the desktop images08:03
endlessurfhaha right right08:03
kiruvega-: is it my fault that you mother dont like you anymore?08:04
shtoomJordan: I've ran that command please wait I'll give the pastebin link08:04
kirustop being so aggressive, dude08:04
vega-kiru: read the topic08:04
endlessurfDShepherd just for giggles and passing time, what is your favorite program08:04
Blue42Ayabara: I guess the next tip would be to check this page: http://compiz.org/ATI08:04
alromaithiyou mean restart computer Flannel08:04
kiruvega-: leave me alone08:04
heartsbloodFlannel: no?  I read that somebody was downloading the gutsy alternate image a couple days ago.08:04
Flannelalromaithi: No, close the window it brings up (it'll be a file browser sort of thing)08:04
alromaithik08:04
vega-kiru: foo08:04
DShepherdendlessurf, pidgin maybe..08:04
Jordan_Uheartsblood, That was the release candidate08:04
Flannelheartsblood: that was the RC, final is being released sometime within the next 24 hours or so08:04
heartsbloodah08:05
kiruvega-: b***h08:05
Blue42Ayabara:  I had a similar problem with beryl on nvidia card, the titlebar just went missing after reboot... ended up that a line in the xorg.conf file was missing08:05
astro76!guidelines | kiru vega-08:05
ubotukiru vega-: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:05
AyabaraBlue42: the window decoration was not turned on at all. maybe that was the issue..08:05
* bhuey is having a lot of trouble with his gutsy upgrade08:05
Blue42Ayabara: ... or that08:05
kiru!guidelines astro7608:05
lapdamn08:05
heartsbloodFlannel: Would it be bad to download the RC?  I would really like to get my server back online.08:05
alromaithiFlannel, how to delete i type cd /usr/local/lib now im in theyr i see the compiz files08:05
lapgutsy make us waiting.08:05
lap:/08:05
Flannel!cli | alromaithi08:05
ubotualromaithi: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:05
vega-well is it so hard to read the topic? this channel has enough text scrolling without somebody asking "is gutsy released, is gutsy released?" every 1 minute08:05
Jordan_Ubhuey, Should ask about his troubles, we may be able to help :)08:05
kiru!guidelines | astro76 vega-08:06
jflashhi, i'm trying to install python-twisted using aptitude but it's giving me 404 Errors08:06
ubotuastro76 vega-: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:06
jflashwhat should I do?08:06
scguy318vega-: the proper way would be to point out the topic with the !topic command08:06
shtoomJordan: here isthe link http://pastebin.com/d31eda40508:06
vega-all the readl problems/discussion get lost in worthless crap08:06
KoweSixproblem: i mount an encrypted container file (on an external ntfs file, container also ntfs).. it's mounted, but i cant access it via the gui/cli... but when i start for example xmms via cli with "sudo xmms", i can browse the directories on it and play stuff.. anyone got a clue how to get access for it?! Oo08:06
Flannelheartsblood: the RC will be more or less the same, some packages might change, but its no different than downloading the final in a week, and needing some upgrades to get up-to-date08:06
endlessurfDShepherd, is the only reason you are up is because you are waiting for the new release08:06
vega-scguy318: perhaps yes08:06
Jordan_Ujflash, Try a different mirror or wait until the release crazyness is over08:06
bhueyJordan_U, thanks, I'm getting tons of dm-linear message at the console for the kernel at start up08:06
scguy318KoweSix: you shouldnt be running xmms as root :P08:06
bhueywhat's up with that ?08:06
DShepherdendlessurf, yeah..08:06
student23What packages do I have to reconfigure to get the main console have appropriate characters?08:07
scguy318KoweSix: u should mount the NTFS part with umask=000 or with your UID08:07
DShepherdendlessurf, i need to go to bed soon though08:07
KoweSixye, i know.. i just wanted to test it :p atm i'm just running it as user :D08:07
jflashJordan_U, how to try different mirror?08:07
vega-but considering every irc client should be able to display the channel topic it is not much to ask for people to actually read it08:07
timfrostbullgard4: varrun (which mounts on /var/run) and varlock (which mounts on /var/lock) are for files that *must* disappear after a reboot.  varrun holds PID files for daemon processes.08:07
bhueyalso, I don't get any virtual console like I use to have08:07
scguy318vega-: true08:07
heartsbloodFlannel: I have no problem with that.08:07
jflashand... release crazyness??08:07
Jordan_Ujflash, System -> Administration -> Software Sources08:07
tw2113channels have topics?08:07
alromaithiso its rm :p08:07
alromaithijust say rm man lo08:07
bhueylooks like udev might be problematic as well08:07
tw2113whoa! look at that08:07
KoweSixuid = user id i guess? :] if so, i do... :]08:07
jflashno this is Putty08:07
jflashaccessing a remote server08:07
bhueyand I barely hack X to get it to run because of driver issues08:07
scguy318KoweSix: yeah08:07
Flannelheartsblood: actually, at the moment you might not be able to get the RC iso, just because theyre preparing for final.  Let me look.08:07
tw2113"Gutsy will be released some time in the next 24 hours"08:08
vega-this was my point, especially at a high-volume channel like this one08:08
tw2113so that means soon, right?08:08
heartsblood...08:08
Jordan_Ujflash, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list try a different country code before the URL08:08
bhueyanybody know how to solve the dm-linear messages ?08:08
heartsbloodFlannel: Just as you said that I noticed the dir was empty08:08
jflashok08:08
kiru!language | vega- astro7608:08
ubotuvega- astro76: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.08:08
astro76!botabuse | kiru08:08
ubotukiru: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:08
heartsbloodFlannel: :(08:08
KenSentMeHi, i'm running gutsy since yesterday, but now my system won't startup. At the gdm login screen i keep getting the error 'Login failed'. If i click that away it keeps coming back. I can only reboot my system. A reconfigure of gdm and xserver-xorg didn't help. Any idea how to fix this?08:08
Jordan_UFlannel, Torrents will always work though08:08
kiruhe did not get it...08:08
vega-kiru: what language?08:08
smy122017 hours not 2408:08
kirunext one -.-08:09
smy1220actually 16 hours 50 min08:09
vega-kiru: there hasn't been any bad language here afaik08:09
Flannelheartsblood: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/gutsy-alternate-amd64.iso ought to do it for you08:09
antlerum, i'm downloading from the site right now.08:09
kiruvega-: afaik you called me silly...08:09
heartsbloodoh sweet ty08:09
tw2113doh, i don't have any computer that i want to wipe out at the moment08:09
tw2113guess ubuntu will have to wait until eventually08:09
murlidharfor me it's 12 hours 39 minutes since 18th oct08:10
bhueyanybody know about the dm-linear messages I get at boot ?08:10
vega-kiru: well, you suggested it and i just agreed :P08:10
heartsbloodo.o kinda slo08:10
heartsbloodslow*08:10
Jordan_UFlannel, You shouldn't have posted that, you probably got a lot of people's hopes up and / or a lot more demand for that file :)08:10
murlidharSo it is released ??????08:10
FlannelJordan_U: yeah, I thought about putting a big disclaimer around it.08:10
Flannelmurlidhar: no08:10
kiruvega-: i tried to understand what you are telling me08:10
Jordan_Umurlidhar, No08:10
kiruignore vega- *!*08:11
kiruups08:11
KoweSixscguy318: how do i run anything via umask? 'umask=000 command' ?08:11
Rabbitbunnyanybody know when the gtkpod that works on 6th gen will work?08:11
boneD4mn power flipped. Someone my firewall isnt on UPS08:11
scguy318KoweSix: no, you have to mount the NTFS partition with that flag08:11
murlidhar:) no matter i am running the gutsy!!!!!!08:11
bonesomehow08:11
scguy318KoweSix: i was guessing that's why you were running xmms as root :P08:11
scguy318KoweSix: because you didnt have file permissions08:11
tw2113bye all! it's be real....weird08:11
tw2113!08:11
heartsbloodwow servers must be super busy atm.  00KBps08:11
Flannelheartsblood: if you append .torrent to the end of that, you'll get the torrent, which may or may not be faster08:11
endlessurfwhen will gutsy be released?08:11
bhueyany suggestions ?08:11
KoweSixmhm trying ;)08:11
astro76!topic | endlessurf08:11
ubotuendlessurf: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:11
heartsbloodFlannel: I didn't think about that, ty again sir.08:12
bullgard4timfrost: Thank you very much for explaining.08:12
shtoomhi http://pastebin.com/d31eda405 that is dpkg --configure -a output can any one help with that08:12
jflashJordan_U, I dont see country codes, I see this:  deb http:/deb http://mirrors.tummy.com/mirrors/ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu breezy main restricted08:12
Jordan_Uendlessurf, One hour after the last person asks about it08:12
scguy318KoweSix: its a simple matter of editing your fstab08:12
boneJordan, i just got bored and upgraded :)08:12
bonegot tired of waiting.08:12
murlidharhmm.........:)08:12
student23What packages do I have to reconfigure to get the main console have appropriate characters?08:12
Jordan_Ujflash, Well there's your problem :)08:12
Flanneljflash: Your not getting updates, because breezy isn't supported anymore08:12
endlessurfJordan_U when was one hour after the last person asked about it?08:12
Jordan_Ujflash, Breezy isn't suported any more08:12
jflashshit08:13
jflashso what to do08:13
boneendlessurf, you reset the hour when you asked.08:13
tonyyarusso!ohmy | jflash08:13
ubotujflash: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.08:13
Flanneljflash: if you want to get new packages, there are a few old repos, but you're better off upgrading to dapper08:13
Flanneljflash: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades08:13
endlessurfbone if it was only that way08:13
boneendlessurf, oh.. but it is.08:13
endlessurfbone i would keep asking08:13
jflashmy family says sh***t all the time . how come sh**t is not family friendly?08:13
nysosymwow compiz has taken big steps08:13
FluxDhow do I make my external drive and thumbdrive automount when plugged in?08:13
endlessurfbone just to entertain myself08:14
boneendlessurf, wouldnt hurt alot of us, we are already upgraded.08:14
antlerjflash: that's usin' the ole noggin08:14
boneendlessurf, 2% rule. You have to be 2% smarter than the thing your working with.08:14
KoweSixscguy318: well its not thaaaat simple: i'm mounting it via 'truecrypt', because its encrypted... and if i add exec,umask=000 or anything it wont work :D08:14
bernandoswhere can you get gutsy? site has no download links08:14
shtoomhttp://pastebin.com/d31eda40508:14
smmagicCompiz fusion doesn't work on this comp =(08:15
Myrttiit's not published yet, bernandos08:15
astro76!topic | bernandos08:15
ubotubernandos: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:15
Jordan_Usmmagic, ATI card?08:15
smmagicNope08:15
endlessurfbone if that was the case then i would not get anything done08:15
Jordan_Usmmagic, What card?08:15
smmagicnVidia avanta 16mb =S08:15
antlersmmagic: heheh.08:15
scguy318KoweSix: mm, not sure, might be some way to have the resulting mounted files have 777 permission or be owned by you, I would suggest checking your truecrypt docs08:15
boneendlessurf, You dont think very highly of yourself, do you?08:16
smmagicHeheh?08:16
smmagicWtf just happened08:16
jflashwhat old repos can I use?08:16
smmagicThis tab made its own windows08:16
endlessurfbone eh if you knew me you would know the humor08:16
jflashi dont want to go for a full upgrade08:16
Jordan_Ujflash, Why not just upgrade to dapper?08:16
KoweSixmhm best option would be to save those decrypt those stuff in xp, and then encrypt it again under ubuntu -.-08:16
boneendlessurf, just commenting. I actually did chuckle at the statement.08:16
endlessurfI am one of those people who start the download last but finish downloading first08:16
cOOLhy08:16
jflashcz i dont know anything about linux08:16
jflash?08:16
jflashwhat if my site stops working?08:17
jflashwhat if apache stops working?08:17
astro76jflash, there are none... releases are supported for 18 months, LTS releases for 3 years or 5 years for server08:17
shtoomdpkg --configure -a giving me core dumped can any one help08:17
astro76jflash, so it sounds like maybe you want LTS releases... 6.06 was one and 8.04 will be08:17
shtoomhttp://pastebin.com/d31eda40508:17
heartsbloodFlannel: Wow the torrent was a huge improvement.  done already, ty again sir!08:17
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Jordan_Ujflash, Running breezy your site is more likely to get hacked08:17
bastimoinmoin08:17
gordonjcpjflash: are you running a production server?08:17
jflashdev08:17
Boumboum6Back. Wasn't able to get online in Gutsy08:18
gordonjcpjflash: on *breezy* ?"08:18
* Jordan_U wishes his internet connection was as fast as heartsblood's08:18
bastisomeone knows when Gutsy is going to be released?08:18
astro76!topic | basti08:18
ubotubasti: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:18
jflashwell that's what tummy.com gave me08:18
Flanneljflash: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  is the old releases mirror, but really, you're not getting any security updates (and haven't in the past six months), you ought to upgrade.08:18
Boumboum6ubuntu's wifi on my machine is weaker than XP's...for some reason.08:18
Jordan_Ubasti, Not true, nobody does08:18
boneMy 10mb charter cable downloaded the 244MB in like 5 minutes.08:18
jflashthe account is like 1 year old thou08:18
heartsbloodJordan_U: fiber :)08:18
Boumboum6basti: within 24 hours08:18
Jordan_Ubasti, It's dependent on truly random radioactive decay08:18
Boumboum6lol Jordan08:19
student23I can't make some text-based apps display "/" character, anyone knows why?08:19
smmagicI want compiz fusion! TT08:19
jflashi will upgrade after I heard from my provider. but not tonite. i will try the old repos, thanks08:19
boneheartsblood, fios???? Man, I wish they would get that here.08:19
Jordan_Ustudent23, You need to escape it with another /08:19
heartsbloodyes sir08:19
Boumboum6student: it's a holdover from "C"....08:19
boneheartsblood, i heard they had scrapped that.08:19
alromaithiok it took me 10 minutes to delete 4 files sombody please tellme an easy method just to press delete on my keyboard :/08:19
heartsblooduhh.. lol08:19
Jordan_Ustudent23, So "and/or" would become "and//or"08:20
heartsblood /whois me :)08:20
heartsbloodI'm sure if you whois me you'll get my info08:20
generalsnusRelase day.. i cant wait:) hello all btw08:20
bastiwhois basti08:20
student23Jordan_U, I don't mean scripts, just an input line in a term-based application...08:20
bastiexit08:20
Flannelalromaithi: alt-f2, gksu nautilus, use the window that pops up, and close it as SOON as youre done.  Don't do anything else with that window except your compiz removal08:20
boneheartsblood, already did. I was just stating what I had heard.08:20
bastiquit08:20
heartsbloodah08:20
Jordan_Ustudent23, Can you give an example?08:20
teKnofreakhow do i disable compiz in gutsy ?08:20
scguy318basti: need a nice slash08:20
boneheartsblood, my 10mb cable isnt bad actually, but fios would rock. and work pays for my internet connection anyway.08:21
student23Jordan_U, can I querry you please?08:21
jflashFlannel, do I have to use the word " deb" in ffront of that URL?08:21
Boumboum6alromaithi: open terminal, type "sudo rm *"    with * being whatever file(s) you want to delete. Beware--no undelete in terminal. Better to just click on "Places", to get the Nautilus file browser, then right-click, and press "move to trash"08:21
heartsbloodno verizon is pushing it like mad in the cities (wash dc here).  the loop i'm on is 77 down 25 up08:21
Jordan_UteKnofreak, System -> Preferences -> Appearance08:21
teKnofreakJordan_U, thanks, will check that08:21
Jordan_Ustudent23, sure08:21
Flanneljflash: Thats just the URL, drop it in place of the other one, deb and the stuff at the end of the line need to still be there, yes.08:21
boneheartsblood, stop... i'm drooling on the keyboard.08:21
heartsblood<308:21
boneand I thought my 1100kb/sec was fast08:21
AnAntHello, if I use reportbug will it report to Ubuntu or Debian ?08:22
moDumasswhen i select enable Nvidia driver in Restricted Drivers manager I get this... E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.9_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 208:22
heartsbloodthen I guess I shouldn't tell you I pay $33/month for it I guess :(08:22
heartsbloodthen I guess telling you I pay $33/m for it would be a bad idea08:22
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heartsbloodoops my bad08:22
Boumboum6lol heartsblood08:22
heartsbloodthought i lagged08:22
motin_018-okt-2007 09:22 GMT+1 still no gutsy08:22
Jordan_UAnAnt, Ubuntu, it will likely be propagated upstream to debian as well though08:22
smmagicNo virtual box for gutsy =.=08:22
AnAntok, thanks08:23
smmagicWonder if feisty one will work08:23
boneheartsblood, i'll be on the lookout for that in my area. Work would love to pay less, I am sure.08:23
shtoomhttp://pastebin.com/d31eda405 thats the output of dpkg --configure -a can any one help08:23
scguy318smmagic: may I PM?08:23
heartsbloodBone: I'm on the highest package, the start around 20 something08:23
alromaithiBoumboum6, when i right click on the files move to trash is faded cant click it08:23
smmagicOf course08:23
endlessurfyou know what is more fun than waiting for the gutsy release, is flaming people on craigslist08:23
bbmakwhat's time ubuntu is going to make the release announcement?08:23
alromaithiBoumboum6, what u mean by nautalis file browser ?08:23
astro76!topic | bbmak08:24
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heartsblood24 maybe?08:24
boneheartsblood, we need every bit of bandwidth for our nortel vpn client to get into work. very ineffecient.08:24
Boumboum6alromaithi: you see that little bar on the top of the screen in Ubuntu?08:24
boneheartsblood, would they by chance allow dual fios to be ordered.08:24
* bone dreams of bonded fios lines08:25
Boumboum6there's text up there....one says "Places"08:25
shtoomhttp://pastebin.com/d31eda405 thats the output of dpkg --configure -a can any one help08:25
alromaithiBoumboum6, goahead08:25
heartsbloodbone: I'm not sure it's for all areas but I could get up to 5 lines here if I wanted08:26
boneheartsblood, see... thats just plan nuts. But I am sure they wouldnt do that same pricing for businesses (would almost put PTP T1's out of business).08:26
Jordan_Usmmagic, Can you pastebin your sources.list?08:27
boneSorry, e1's or whatever they renamed them to actually.08:27
alromaithiit says unable to move to trash access denied08:27
alromaithianyways to delete these unneccesary folders which i have uninstalled them lately08:27
alromaithiits doing a crowd08:27
murlidharOk i use Listen Media Player and i want my Pidgin to show my contacts what am i listening.  How do i do that???08:27
heartsbloodbone: well as far T1/T3 goes verizon has dropped 'new' support for copper land lines.  they're moving eveybody to fibernetworks even the buisnesses08:27
yellow_chickenis there a count down to 7.10? (in hours unit)08:28
alromaithimurlidhar, who wants that lo08:28
boneheartsblood, nice. You dont by chance work for them, do you?08:28
unimatrix9alromaithi , try remove as root08:28
murlidharalromaithi: i want that08:28
alromaithiunimatrix9, how08:28
shtoomhttp://pastebin.com/d31eda405 thats the output of dpkg --configure -a can any one help?08:28
heartsbloodbone: negative, but I have explored high bandwidth options from them for awhile08:28
Jordan_Usmmagic, Can you pastebin your sources.list?08:28
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alromaithimurlidhar, get kopete08:28
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unimatrix9alromaithi , start terminal on your gnome desktop, then type sudo nautilus , enter root password08:29
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alromaithiand i think pidgins got plugins for that kind of thing murlidhar08:29
boneheartsblood, how's the linux connect with it. Straight tcp/ip?08:29
unimatrix9navigate to folder / file and delete08:29
Flannelunimatrix9, alromaithi, gksu nautilus, not sudo nautilus08:29
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unimatrix9well okey08:29
astro76alromaithi, unimatrix9, and user password, no root password08:29
unimatrix9:P08:29
murlidharalromaithi: so where can  find those plugins and how do  install them?08:29
alromaithiYOU SAVED ME08:29
heartsbloodbone: yeap, staic IP's $5/m/per IP08:29
unimatrix9hmm sudo works just fine , sir08:30
boneheartsblood, any odd restrictions on listening ports/daemons on user end of things?08:30
unimatrix9i just treid..08:30
Flannelunimatrix9: no it doesnt.  Don't use sudo for graphical apps, it sometimes causes permission errors and stuff.08:30
astro76!gksu | unimatrix908:30
ubotuunimatrix9: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using « sudo <GUI-application> » - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info08:30
heartsbloodbone: they do block port 80 for some odd reason on residential lines, but that was very easy to get around.08:30
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boneheartsblood, i'm sold. Sign me up.08:31
unimatrix9yes master ....;)08:31
Galactic!sign08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sign - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:31
generalsnuswtb 7.10 allready... anyone knows how long until release?08:31
motin_018-okt-2007 09:32 GMT+1 still no gutsy08:32
Jordan_Usmmagic, Do you mind submitting a bug report?08:32
jflash"Couldn't find any packages whose name or description matched twisted-matrix"08:32
jflash:-(08:32
astro76!topic | motin_0 generalsnus08:32
heartsbloodbone: Call them up :>08:32
ubotumotin_0 generalsnus: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:32
* sauvin tends to sudo su - and THEN run gtk apps08:32
brucealdridgei have a lot of random crashes of many programs (incl. firefox, tbird, synaptic) i have no idea what the problem could be (newbie)08:32
GalacticReleasing it is tricky. But possible. It will take exactly seven and a half million years.08:32
boneWe're sorry Verizon doesn't offer FiOS service in your area. However, please take a look at the Verizon services listed below that may be offered where you live.08:32
Galactic!4208:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:32
heartsblood:(08:33
Jordan_Usauvin is going to be in for a surprise when after running an app that isn't carefull he will no longer be able to log in :)08:33
boneya.. i was on it like stink on liver08:33
smy1220!fedora Core 708:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fedora core 7 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:33
sauvinIt hasn't happened yet, but the only app I run really from root is synaptic.08:33
unimatrix9hello dennis08:33
RkyRaccoon55 cant believe im asking this but does anyone know what time 7.10 will be available?08:34
nentisoi.08:34
heartsbloodBone: I can't say for sure if this would help but it might be in your best interest to call them.  Fios lines can be run from stupid long distances and as long as your local loop is fiber you can get it if you bitch a them enough08:34
nentisRkyRaccoon55, join #ubuntu-release-party08:34
Jordan_URkyRaccoon55, There is a reason you can't believe that you are asking that, it's because you shouldn't be08:34
alromaithithanks Flannel08:34
* nentis loves his FIOS.08:34
allorderHi everyone it say on ubuntu site 00 day to download 7.10, but it doesnt like ready, its for when ?08:34
heartsbloodbone: the web site isn't always very accurate because they use the dsl range model for testing.08:34
boneheartsblood, I'l will call tomorrow.08:34
nentis14.5mbit down.08:34
Jordan_URkyRaccoon55, /topic08:35
phpcurioushi, how do you obtain info about hardware components installed in linux machine using the terminal?08:35
nentisphpcurious, lspci08:35
bonenentis, i have 10mb charter cable, but heartsblood has a direct line straight into al gore's internet 2.0.08:35
bonehehe08:35
Jordan_Uphpcurious, lspci, lshal, lshw08:35
unimatrix9Seveas ; groetjes van leslie ( t-dose event )08:35
nentis:)08:35
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heartsbloodo.o...08:35
Seveasunimatrix9, :)08:35
Seveasgroeten terug!08:35
heartsbloodI've heard many things, but thats new ;)08:35
moDumasshey all, so i upgraded to gutsy and its gone relatively smoothly, all except that restricted drivers wont let me install the nvidia proprietry drivers08:36
bonelsb_release -a08:36
boneopps. sorry08:36
unimatrix9moDumass, do an manual install?08:36
boneI just like looking at the output08:36
CroXSo, anyone know when Gutsy is released today?08:36
Javidnope08:36
willwill!topic | CroX08:36
ubotuCroX: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:36
Javidand here comes the nerd rage08:36
willwillGutsy will be released some time in the next 24 hours08:36
Javidhow dare he ask a simple question!08:36
Jordan_UJavid, It's in the topic for a reason08:37
unimatrix9javid : did you have an question?08:37
moDumassunimatrix9..hmm. can give it a go i suppose, this is usually where i break it and need my gf`s laptop to connect08:37
unimatrix9moDumass, i see..08:37
jflashok guys, no twisted for me in the old repos. will apache stop working if i upgrate do dapper?08:37
JavidYeah. How do I save my gaim configs so I can reinstall it after upgrading without losing all my info?08:38
jflashand how big of a download would that be?08:38
jflashis it like MS Vista? 10 gigabytes or something?08:38
alromaithilo08:38
brucealdridgeis this a channel for support? whats the support process? ask a question and hope it gets answered?08:38
Javidbrucealdridge, yes and yes08:38
phpcuriousJordan_U: how about the HD info? and Memory?08:38
scguy318brucealdrige: that sums it u08:38
alromaithi700mb jflash08:38
Jordan_Ujflash, Not likely, and ~ 700 meg, it depends on how many applications you have installed08:38
astro76Javid, save ~/.gaim/08:38
scguy318*up08:38
musikgoat!patience08:38
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:38
moDumassunimatrix9 its cool, im workin on it08:38
Javid!lol08:38
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.08:38
Oli``brucealdridge: you can ask in the forums too.08:38
unimatrix9javid : there is an hidden file in your home dir .gaim , maybe the settings are stored there08:39
Javidthanks08:39
jflashok, i'm sold08:39
Jordan_Uphpcurious, Most things like that will be in /proc ( /proc/cpuinfo, /proc/meminfo etc )08:39
jflashhow do i do it?08:39
brucealdridgemaybe people didn't like my question... i shall ask again, but nicely ...08:39
alromaithi!rofl08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rofl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:39
scguy318brucealdrige: just !ask08:39
scguy318brucealdrige: this is a busy channel, questions are missed08:39
alromaithi!ask08:40
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:40
Javid:o roseburg person08:40
Necrosan_I'm installing the gutsy RC, will I be able to update to final thru software update?08:40
JavidNecrosan_, yes08:40
unimatrix9yes08:40
brucealdridgescguy: !ask question or !question08:40
rredd4Javid  me too08:40
phpcuriousI didn't know ubotu is a bot08:40
murlidhar:)08:40
phpcuriousi thought ubotu was a real person08:40
rredd4lol08:40
JavidI'm not, but I jump on local IPs when I see them. ^^08:40
murlidharphpcurious: :)08:40
kirjavaffs08:40
unimatrix9ubotu is an woman...:)08:40
alromaithi!!!08:40
robotphooddoes evogear.com crash anyone else's firefox?08:40
larsrohdinphpcurious: he just answers very quickly08:40
bonephpcurious, did you have a meaningful conversation with ubotu and not realize it?08:40
kirjavahow can /dev/hdb show up as mounted if it dosn't exist?08:41
darkzeroso is overyone ready to upgrade to gutsy?08:41
scguy318brucealdrige: just ask08:41
brucealdridge!ask i have a lot of random crashes of many programs (incl. firefox, tbird, synaptic) i have no idea what the problem could be (newbie)08:41
murlidharunimatrix9: don't make fun of anybody08:41
Necrosan_Javid: what's the process?08:41
astro76brucealdridge, no, that's to tell ubotu to tell you to just ask your question08:41
Necrosan_or should it be "good to go" just running it?08:41
dfeeser_darkdevil: already done...waiting to grab the final updates :)08:41
NielsErobotphood: yes :P08:41
rredd4the ubuntu web site says 0 days for 7.1008:41
JavidNecrosan_, I think the link's in the topic08:41
phpcuriousno, just read his logs and he is quite frank in everything he says08:41
NielsEno, its loads again, just had to wait08:41
student23Jordan_U, Sorry disturbing, can you give me a hand please?08:41
robotphooddoes it freeze again?08:41
scguy318brucealdrige: crash how?08:41
allorderrobotphood: no08:41
unimatrix9evogear is very heavy08:41
unimatrix9but loads08:41
robotphoodflash prob?08:41
darkzeroyou mean darkzero08:42
darkzerolol08:42
darkzerodarkdevil??08:42
robotphoodmine locks completely08:42
dfeeser_sorry.. i did a dark:08:42
unimatrix9ubotu i am sorry..08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i am sorry.. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:42
Necrosan_Javid: not in topic08:42
Javiddarn.08:42
Javid!upgrade08:42
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - Please join #ubuntu+1 for questions about upgrading to Gutsy, and use #ubuntu for "normal" support only08:42
brucealdridgescguy: it just dies ... quits ... if i run from terminal it reports a seg fault08:42
Javiduse that link Necrosan_08:43
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darkzeroSa, tell me if anyone got miro working on gutsy08:43
Jordan_Ustudent23, What's your question?08:43
Necrosan_ah08:43
scguy318brucealdrige: install anything recently? is this Gutsy?08:43
unimatrix9off to work , bye08:43
Lunzhow do i update all new codec for sound and video?08:43
GinLunz, you don't need to08:44
darkzero<  got the final releases08:44
darkzerowoohoo08:44
brucealdridgescguy: i install fiesty earlier in the week, gave up on xp ... was crashy .. so i tried updating to gutsy rc08:44
Lunzgin,why?08:44
fastWHERE IS MY 7.10 UBUNTU????08:45
scguy318brucealdrige: something wrong with, i dunno, your RAM?08:45
Boumboum4lol fast08:45
scguy318!topic | fast08:45
ubotufast: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:45
Lunzgin,Transcoding the video stream with ffmpeg failed. Exiting.08:45
murlidharbrucealdridge: sorry to hear that but Gutsy is a stable OS08:45
Seveasfast, in the fridge...08:45
Javid!lol > Boumboum408:45
murlidhar!lol08:45
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.08:45
fastCMON, i wait from 4 days to get it08:45
Lunzhow do i get ffmpeg?08:45
GinLunz, I don't think you need codec upgrade to fix that problem,08:45
brucealdridgescguy: got new ram this time last week ... i memtest'd it for about 4hours no errors08:46
* cyphase loves how #ubuntu always gets full on release day08:46
GinLunz, try searching the forum08:46
Lunzgin,how to fix it then?08:46
moDumasshas anyone else had issues with "restricted drivers" in gutsy?08:46
cyphasenot that there's a definition of "full"08:46
fastwhats going on, really, i dont understand whats the problem, why there is no release yet?08:46
cafuego/topic08:46
teKnofreakshtoom,08:47
bonefast, its not Nov 18th yet.08:47
bone;)08:47
scguy318brucealdrige: mm, reinstallation? segfault = strange08:47
fastfor me it is, GMT time08:47
cafuegofast: They're monitoring this channel and push back the release by one hour each time someone asks.08:47
boneFast, your a month off.08:47
Boumboum4lol cafuego08:47
jflashhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion  << page doesnt exist :P08:47
jflashnow what?08:47
cafuegoLooking at 205008:47
brucealdridgescguy: is there a nice way of install leaving settings?? i spose just backup home folder08:48
alromaithithe release is available but they are updating it to the mirror sites so people could download so if u have a clue and know the root dir of the htm site then you might find it :p08:48
scguy318brucealdrige: yep08:48
scguy318brucealdrige: next time around put /home on its own partition08:48
scguy318brucealdrige: so you dont have to backup at all08:48
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jimmywwhow long do we think tell 7.10 comes out08:48
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murlidhari use pidgin and where and how can install the now playing plugin???????08:49
fastalromaithi, thats "can" be a good explain.. lets hope it true, and i am not forced to put the beta today08:49
scguy318murlidhar: check the repos?08:49
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internecionI have a pretty big problem when I try to update.08:49
jimmyww?08:49
Rabbitbunnywhat's the correct spelling of 'facetious'?08:49
internecionDuring my updates, I'll get freezes and be forced to restart.08:49
Rabbitbunnygoogle isn't hinting.08:49
internecionI am running a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.0408:49
internecionAny ideas as to what might be wrong?08:49
Wistesofacetious08:49
murlidharscguy318: would plugins be in the repos???08:49
Rabbitbunnythank you08:49
cafuegoFacetious \Fa*ce"tious\, a. [Cf. F. fac['e]tieux.08:49
alromaithifast, get the beta , you think ubuntu users is only the ones in this irc?08:50
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scguy318murlidhar: probably yes08:50
rebelThorwhat's wrong if when i press ctrl + alt + f1 brings me to a black screen but no terminal?08:50
L0GANtoday's the day :D08:50
scguy318internection: would help if you told us what error08:50
murlidharscguy318: searching then08:50
internecionI don't get any sort of error; everything just completely freezes.08:50
markymarkjoin #ubuntu + 108:50
Rabbitbunnyheh, don't drink and type, I mis-spellied it into google.08:50
jimmywwso how long do we think till 7.10 comes08:51
jeevan_ullashey all what happened to gutsy ? is it released or not08:51
jeevan_ullashey all what happened to gutsy ? is it released or not08:51
cafuegoThere we go, another 3 hours to wait...08:51
jeevan_ullaswhat ?08:51
phpcuriousubotu gutsy08:51
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information08:51
Seveasjimmyww, #ubuntu-release-party08:51
cafuegojeevan_ullas: read the topic08:51
jimmywwthxs08:51
jeevan_ullascafuego: stfu08:51
cafuegoOk, bye.08:51
jflashguys, the tuturial says " make sure, you have a backup of important data."  doest tthat include my whole website?08:52
moDumass!nvidia08:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:52
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Boumboum4is there a way to preserve installed apps the same way one preserves personal files/settings by putting /home on a separate partition? I get tired of re-installing apps... :)08:52
t94xrso is it out yet??08:52
scguy318!ohmy | jeevan_ullas08:52
ubotujeevan_ullas: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.08:52
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boneis there a bugzilla for ubuntu anywhere?08:52
cafuegoSomeone is never getting helped by me.08:52
rebelThorsorry, connection problems,  what's wrong if when i press ctrl + alt + f1 brings me to a black screen but no terminal?08:52
scguy318!bugs | bone08:52
ubotubone: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots08:52
cafuegobone: No, but there is launchpad.ubuntu.com08:52
scguy318bone: not really Bugzilla, but Launchpad08:52
cafuegoeh08:52
cafuego^^ that thing :-)08:52
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murlidharscguy318: nope it isn't there in the repos08:53
fastthere will be any torrent distribution for iso also? any idea?08:53
cafuegofast: yes08:53
thoreauputicfast: of course08:53
bonethanks guys08:53
scguy318murlidhar: mm, I suppose you will have to compile from source08:53
scguy318murlidhar: i dunno too much :(08:53
KeypadHarro08:53
fastomg.. i am so deperate.. i CANT WAIT, call devs to update the damn page, even with less mirrors08:53
Keypad?08:54
KeypadNew ubuntu is out08:54
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Keypadright ?08:54
bozniI'm attempting to mount my ntfs raid device and it is consistently telling me that the device file in /dev/mapper doesn't exist....08:54
huXfluXwrong08:54
Myrttino, not yet08:54
scguy318Keypad: /topic08:54
internecionWhere can I look to discover what the problem was from a system freeze that recently occured?08:54
bozniI know it does because I'm looking at the file, anyone able to help?08:54
Keypadthanks08:54
* cafuego winces at bozni08:54
* fast is going crazy08:55
generalsnusa question:  as ive understood, win xp 64bit lacks a lot of drivers and app support.. is it the same issue with ubuntu 64bit?  is there any problems that might arise when choosing 64bit over 32?08:55
scguy318generalsnus: some apps might be pain, like Flash plugin08:55
fasti will go for x64 version08:55
scguy318generalsnus: kernel modules shouldn't be a problem, its just a matter of recompilation08:55
bozniAnyone knowledgeable on ntfs raid devices?08:55
moDumasshey all does anyone know what this error means or how to fix it? http://www.pastebin.org/5153 I googled it but got no love08:55
scguy318generalsnus: but its better to stick with 32-bit08:55
cafuegogeneralsnus: You may have some issues getting java and video working in your web browser.08:56
fasti dont care about flash, really..08:56
scguy318moDumass: the stuff before it would help a lot08:56
antlerum, 32bit firefox on a 64 bit os08:56
poolie_moDumass, it means there was an error installing that package08:56
poolie_scroll up to see what happened08:56
bozniI point the mounter to the proper location and it tells me the device doesn't exist.  Can anyone help, I'm pulling my hair out here!08:56
moDumassscguy318 there is no 'before' thats is08:56
cafuegoantler: Yeah, dchroot, extra maintenance work, manual updates. Hassle, annoying.08:56
phoenix_ick DJ-Triple-V08:57
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willwill@noq08:57
willwill@now08:57
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: October 18 2007, 07:57:18 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day08:57
antlercafuego: gee, and in suse it's just a click. ;-D08:57
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moDumasspoolie_ any idea how to fix? im tryng to install nvidia drivers in either synaptic or with the restricted drivers manager08:57
cafuegoYeah, as if.08:57
poolie_personally i would go to a shell and try08:57
cafuegoSuse locked up twice during install yesterday.08:57
scguy318moDumass: was there no messages before that?08:57
bonebrb\08:57
poolie_sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:57
poolie_that may at least give more messages08:58
moDumassscguy nope thats all it says08:58
antlercafuego: 10.3? i'm hangin on to 10.208:58
moDumasswill try the cmdline though,08:58
cafuegoantler: yeh, 10.3 (32bit)08:58
Sp0tUbHi! Can someone tell me how i stop my screen turning down the light in Ubuntu?08:58
antlerSp0tUb: huh?08:58
Kerpalanyone know why ubuntu might be freezing whenever i attempt to use a wlan connection to connect to, well anything08:59
generalsnusSo.. a lot of 32 bits ubuntu/linux apps.. might couse problems then..so generally best to stick with 32bit... but what are the big pro's and cons with the 64bit edition then?08:59
moDumassscguy and poolie this is the output from cmdline : http://www.pastebin.org/515408:59
Boumboum4kerpal: that's an odd problem. if the wlan has problems it shouldn't freeze Ubuntu. My guess is a file got corrupted somewhere.08:59
Kerpalwell at first i had a problem getting an IP after connecting to my router09:00
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murlidharnow playing plugin for pidgin .   Can anyone help me ?09:00
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moDumasssorry my bad09:00
Kerpali could connect to the AP fine but then i couldn't get the IP, i looked it up and found out i had to use root to get an IP, but now that i connect with an IP i freeze whenever trying to do anything on wlan009:00
jeevan_ullasAmaranth: you are a big asshole man.09:01
Kerpallike if i load firefox and it attempts to connect to the websites i had via restore, it freezes, i load automatix to install a driver via internet, once it tries to connect it freezes09:01
scguy318!ohmy | jeevan_ullas09:01
ubotujeevan_ullas: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.09:01
pooliemoDumass, you need to close synaptic or something09:01
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scguy318moDumass: you have any package managers open? probably should close those09:01
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karnage42does anyone know the exact time of release for gutsy gibbon?09:01
moDumassscguy and poolie yeh this is with other managers closed : http://www.pastebin.org/515509:01
Crush`is there a command to make an iso of a DVD/CD?09:02
scguy318Crush`: dd :P09:02
eternalswd!topic | karnage4209:02
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eyeRmonkeykarnage42: of course we do. ;)09:02
scguy318Crush`: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=isofile.iso bs=409609:02
Crush`oh thank you09:02
L0GANwhen o when will the ubuntu latest version hit the users :D09:02
GionnyBossKerpal: I don't know about your wireless problem, but get rid of Automatix. It is not official and it can likely lead your computer to a mess.09:02
rebelThor_where can i find the file where i can set how many virtual terminals i have?09:02
Kerpalwell i didn't do anything with automatix prior to the problem, so i know it didn't cause it09:03
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Kerpaloh sweet new version :D09:03
Sp0tUbCane someone tell me how i stop my screen from flickering in Ubuntu?09:03
eyeRmonkeyQuestion: I have an Intel Core Duo 2. Should I use the AMD64 version because I have a 64bit processor, or should I use the Intel x86 version since it is an intel processor?09:03
generalsnusSo.. a lot of 32 bits ubuntu/linux apps.. might couse problems then..so generally best to stick with 32bit... but what are the big pro's and cons with the 64bit edition then?09:03
moDumassthanks for any help thus far though09:04
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SeveasrebelThor_, /etc/inittab09:05
rebelThor_Seveas: thanks09:05
rebelThor_Seveas: what if i don't have an /etc/inittab? :))09:05
SeveasrebelThor_, meh, I forgot about upstart09:06
SeveasrebelThor_, look in /etc/event.d/09:06
accumulatorhello all09:07
scguy318hello09:07
Crush`scguy318: i tried that command to make an iso of a DVD i alreadyhad in the drive, and it only created a 15.4MB iso09:07
rebelThor_Seveas: things look good in /etc/event.d, however my virtual terminals don't start09:07
moDumassscguy318 was that helpful at all?09:07
SeveasrebelThor_, are you using a vga= parameter on the kernel command line?09:08
rebelThor_Seveas: yes, i am09:08
scguy318moDumass: your error is familiar, moment09:08
SeveasrebelThor_, don't09:08
rebelThor_Seveas: i see :))09:08
SeveasrebelThor_, and see if you get terminals back :)09:08
murlidhari am not able to install musictracker plugin for pidgin09:08
pooliemoDumass, it looks like nvidia-glx won't coexist with nvidia-glx-new09:09
pooliedo you need both of them?09:09
rebelThor_Seveas: how will i be able then to change to the proper resolution required by the usplash?09:09
drayenis kubuntu 7.10 officially released ?09:09
SeveasrebelThor_, usplash doesn't need a vga= parameter09:09
Seveasdrayen, no09:09
drayenSeveas: any ideas on when?09:10
rebelThor_Seveas: then i must be using some other splash program, because it displays the graphic in a different resolution than it should09:10
Seveasdrayen, every time you ask, the release is delayed by 10 minutes ;)09:10
cafuegodrayen: Another hour later coz you asked09:10
SeveasrebelThor_, look in /etc/usplash.conf and after changing that file, regenerate your initramfs09:11
drayenSeveas: :P ok, but were talking today / tomorrow, not next week09:11
rebelThor_Seveas: thanks a lot09:11
Seveasdrayen, today or tomorrow, depending on your timezone09:11
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drayenSeveas: lovely, was all i wanted to know ;)09:12
chaldoing a trace route to a doman says mail.xyz.com for example  should it not be just xyz.com?09:12
murlidharSeveas: i can't enable my usplash. what is the problem. just blank screen and takes ages to boot . so i had to again put the text feature back09:12
murlidharSeveas: usplash is installed09:13
accumulatormurlidhar: same problem here09:13
murlidhar:(09:13
AzzkikrHmm I thought Gutsy was out today for download09:14
accumulatormurlidhar: it seems to be a problem with the kernel in combintaion with the fb modules09:15
cafuegoEvery time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.09:15
murlidharaccumulator: u mean bug?09:15
accumulatoryep09:15
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goshaWhen I press a tab like "Summary" in 'hardinfo' i get logged out, and it looks like X dies. What could the problem be?09:16
accumulatormurlidhar: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/12991009:16
bjronanyone found a solution to the upgrade manager hanging on 'modifying the software channels' after you cofirm the 'support has ended' dialogue?09:16
Ginit would ne nice if there is a utility that can remember the size of applications windows. So next time I open it, it will open with the same size as it was last opened.09:16
accumulatormurlidhar: but the solutions there dont work with kernel -1409:16
djm62Gin: I think devilspie might do that09:17
Sbucatwhere can i donwload 7.10 stable ?09:18
endlessurfso my question is, what is the difference if i up date now to gutsy rather than wait untily i can get it on my update manager09:18
endlessurfso my question is, what is the difference if i up date now to gutsy rather than wait untily i can get it on my update manager09:19
accumulatorendlessurf: some last bugs :)09:19
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Seveaswill we make the 1500 when the US wakes up?09:19
murlidharSbucat: wait for some time and don't ask how much . Cuz everytime u ask it gets delayed09:20
endlessurfbut if i update later do i get a new bug swater?09:20
endlessurfmurlidhar when does gutsy come out?09:20
Myrtti!topic | endlessurf09:20
ubotuendlessurf: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic09:21
murlidharendlessurf: don't ask i dunno09:21
WaltzingAlongendlessurf: less rush later?09:21
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endlessurfoh i was just asking cause you said it would delay09:21
goshaWhich signal is the 11'th one?09:21
murlidharendlessurf: have patience09:21
endlessurfi leave for mexico in a few09:21
cafuegoSIGSEGV09:21
goshacafuego: What does it mean?09:21
endlessurfyou know baja surf beer babes09:21
cafuegogosha: accessing invalid memory09:22
murlidharyeah beer09:22
murlidhar:)09:22
endrahello09:22
gosha... That's what it says X does when it dies from the hardinfo app09:22
cafuegogosha: yeah, that's not generally good.09:22
WikzoCan you get 7.10 via the update manager like all other updates on Ubuntu 7.04?09:22
endlessurfwhen i was seventeen i bought some very good beer.......09:22
scguy318Wikzo: yes09:22
endlessurfcan you name that murlidhar09:22
cafuegoWikzo: yes09:22
FlannelWikzo: yes, once its out it'll prompt you to upgrade09:22
Kaiserlichhi all. how can i start emacs from within a terminal, without having to remove the "emacs21" package (which has support)?09:22
WikzoOk, thanks all09:22
goshacafuego: I figured so ... I wonder what I can do =/09:23
murlidharendlessurf: no guesses09:23
cafuegoKaiserlich: type 'emacs' in a terminal09:23
endlessurfhomer simpson09:23
murlidhark09:23
endraive miraculously managed to install a server version of ubuntu with cd 7.04 alternate on this old internet-free laptop of mine. How do I go about installing xfce, or kde, or gnome without having the internet and only said cd?09:23
margoriis anyone updating right now?09:23
Kaiserlichcafuego: : that brings up the gui version of emacs09:23
murlidhari like king fisher and this is not the channel to talk about endlessurf09:24
cafuegoKaiserlich: Oh, i see. Does it list anything in 'emacs --help' ?09:24
Flannelendra: Which alternate CD is it?09:24
Kaiserlichcafuego: ah now i see. there is a flag called "-nw"09:24
endraFlannel: um, ubuntu 7.04?09:24
Kaiserlichcafuego: thanks :)09:24
milosevicagame boy09:24
endlessurfmurlidhar not the channel to talk about.......09:24
teKnofreakKaiserlich, emacs -nw09:24
milosevicahalo jel ima nekog09:25
KaiserlichteKnofreak: yes i saw it now. thanks :)09:25
murlidharendlessurf: beers :)09:25
Flannelendra: alright, since you installed with the alt CD, it ought to already be in your repository list, if its not you can `sudo apt-cdrom add` to add it, then put the CD in, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop09:25
Flannelendra: ubuntu-desktop, that is.09:25
teKnofreakKaiserlich, if you use if often create an alias in .bashrc "alias e="emacs -nw"09:25
milosevicaalo jel zna neko Srpski09:25
endlessurfmurlidhar what is your favorite type of beer?09:25
moDumasssorry had to step out, Poolie, no i do not, but i didnt know i had both installed09:25
KaiserlichteKnofreak: sounds pretty smooth. thanks for the tip.09:26
murlidharendlessurf: my lips are closed09:26
endlessurf??????09:26
endraFlannel: will ubuntu-desktop work on 530mhz 128mb ram?09:26
AbyssGerMy PLESK saves the Webalizer-stats in this PLESK-Login safe directory: /srv/www/vhosts/(domain)/statistics/webstat now i want to put it somewhere where all customers can read the stats without loggin into plesk. someone any idea?09:26
gunashekarendra: it wont09:26
murlidhari gotta installed a plugin in pidgin how to do that????09:26
moDumasspoolie, i dont currently have either installed..09:26
scguy318endra: not all that well, Xubuntu?09:26
smmagicYOu could try xbuntu09:26
frostburnmurlidhar, which one09:27
endrai have the xubuntu alternate cd as well!09:27
Flannelendra: Probably not nicely, no.  You'll need to download the xubuntu liveCD, or, better yet, use aptonCD to make a repository CD with whatever you want on it.09:27
murlidharfrostburn: musictracker09:27
endrawhat would the title be? xubuntu-desktop?09:27
Flannelendra: er, my previous statement should be xubuntu alternate CD, yeah, xubuntu-desktop09:27
Flannelendra: you'll need to use apt-cdrom to add that (since theyre different CDs, theyre named differently in the sources.list)09:27
frostburnmurlidhar, i think there's a package called pidgin-plugins... however that's on gutsy, which would be released today09:28
murlidharfrostburn: i am using gutsy09:28
murlidharfrostburn: it doesn't have this plugin09:28
frostburnmurlidhar, download the source and compile09:29
goshawtf09:29
goshanow everything likes to die09:29
murlidharfrostburn: tried . says can't find pidgin09:29
frostburnmurlidhar, did you do apt-get build-dep pidgin ?09:30
WaltzingAlong!info pidgin09:30
endlessurfowh it is 1:30 what is going on09:30
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:30
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frostburnWaltzingAlong, he's using gutsy09:30
teKnofreakWaltzingAlong, ubotu is still in feisty ;)09:31
VoXendlessurf: what is going on with what09:31
murlidharfrostburn: no09:31
moDumasspoolie, i just checked synaptic, i dont currently have either installed, as someone with skills what would you recommend?09:31
Flannel!info pidgin gutsy09:31
ubotupidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB09:31
murlidharfrostburn: do i do that?09:31
WaltzingAlongfrostburn: i have gutsy and pidgin09:31
kane77is gutsy already released?09:31
VoXkane77: look at topic09:31
cafuegoEvery time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.09:31
WaltzingAlongno !!!!!!!09:32
wlxdo think so.09:32
murlidharkane77: nope i am using RC which is updated so i am using a stable gutsy09:32
TalkingZombielol09:32
TalkingZombietpp nad09:32
TalkingZombietoo bad09:32
wlxas the repository change nothing these two days.09:32
darkzeroanyone here have issued with Miro on gutsy?09:32
endlessurfVoX nm just ftping media to my card to take to mexico, just try'n to stir it up09:32
kane77murlidhar, me too.. I'm just asking because I want to throw a party :D09:32
murlidhar:)09:33
kane77murlidhar, is the GMT used for timing the release? if so it's already released :)09:33
Ademankane77: well it's not lol09:34
TalkingZombie11.59PM of 18th Oct 2007 is still 18th Oct 2007 :p09:35
frostburnmurlidhar, sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin && sudo apt-get install libpcre3-dev pidgin-dev            then run the ./configure in the music tracker directory09:35
WaltzingAlong!topic | kane09:35
ubotukane: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic09:35
kippiis the new version of ubuntu out?09:35
xipietotecwhere is the error log you would get when you fail to suspend correctly?09:36
murlidharfrostburn: thanks will try that now09:36
Sp0tUbIs it possible to get my webcam to work in Ubuntu?09:36
WaltzingAlongSp0tUb: yes09:36
xipietotec!suspend09:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:36
WaltzingAlongkippi: by the end of the 18th in the last corner of the world09:36
jimmywwrealese party room where is it09:36
kane77WaltzingAlong, yes but there is only "some time"...09:36
msjoneshi09:36
kippiso not this morning?09:36
Andri[DK]i want my iso :P09:37
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong can you please tell me how? :-)09:37
msjonesi bet this message has been answered a thousand times already, but where is 7.10??09:37
scguy318msjones: /topic09:37
WaltzingAlongkane77: then join the release party channel though the response in the same: it is set to come out on the 18th, has not been released yet, do not know exactly when that is, and so on09:37
WaltzingAlongSp0tUb: how do you want to use it?09:37
WaltzingAlong!webcam09:37
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:37
daurnimatoruh09:37
daurnimatoris gutsy out?09:37
daurnimatorI've just read that it IS out on some new site09:38
daurnimator*news09:38
WaltzingAlongseveral of us have been using it already09:38
Seveas!release09:38
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases09:38
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong it could be nice to take pictures and record video, and livestreaming could be nice to! :-)09:38
daurnimatorwhere can I grab it?09:38
contrast83Would someone mind having a quick look at my .xinitrc to see if there's an apparent reason it's not doing *anything*? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41035/09:38
WaltzingAlongdaurnimator: update-manager -c -d -p09:38
WaltzingAlong!webcam | Sp0tUb09:39
ubotuSp0tUb: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:39
daurnimatorI'm just about to install a NEW installation09:39
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong Thanks, i just have a look then! :-) But im new n linux, so i hope i dont have to hardcorecode! :-)09:39
daurnimator - I need the cd image or w/e09:39
WaltzingAlongdaurnimator: then you wait some09:39
Seveasdaurnimator, gutsy isn't released yet. No images09:39
daurnimatordagm09:39
jingjanghu hu hu, i want to downloads ubuntu 7.10 today, anybody.......09:39
smmagicGutsy release is just as good09:39
daurnimatorhow many hours then?09:39
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moDumasshow do we enable 3d in 7.10?09:40
Seveasdaurnimator, every time you ask, one hour extra09:40
susscorfaits enabled by default moDumass09:40
daurnimatorhow many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then? how many hours then?09:40
daurnimatorhaha, now you guys aren't getting it till tomorrow09:40
KoweSixyou are funny..........09:40
KoweSixNOOOOOOOOOOT09:40
KoweSixxE09:40
* daurnimator really isn't09:41
murlidharfrostburn: what after ./configure09:41
jinx099why dont u all just upgrade now?09:41
murlidharfrostburn: run?09:41
zerokSeveas, tnx ;)09:41
ShredZI want to monitor a vnc+firefox using supervise, however, the vncserver startup script runs the Xtighvnc with an & so the script exits and supervise constantly tries to respawn it. How do I make XtightVNC the foreground app ?09:41
frostburnmurlidhar, sudo make && make install  and it should work09:42
MasjIs there a known problem that prevents 7.10 to run Compiz-Fusion on multiple screens for example tvout?09:43
nbjaymehello all. I have added a network (pci) card into my system.  I am using feisty.  the network card is rtl8139c  how do i add this?  (i have restarted my computer but i do not see an eth1 in the network-admin). thanks for the help.09:43
murlidharfrostburn: is it compatible to listen media player09:43
frostburnmurlidhar, no idea, i've never used it09:43
Xinaxi cant wait for 7.10!09:43
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong It dosent work! :-( It's a build in cam09:43
AdemanMasj: no idea, but looking at launchpad might be a good idea09:44
Xinaxwhen will 7.10 be released?09:44
Sp0tUbtoday09:44
Alp`today09:44
frostburnXinax, /topic09:44
WaltzingAlongSp0tUb: check the output of lspci  or lsusb   even09:44
Alp`#ubuntu-release-party09:44
KerpalHey guys i'm using an RT73 chipset USB wireless adapter and whenever i try to connect to anything with it, Ubuntu freezes, i can ping google through the terminal but no GUI applications work09:44
willwillXinax$ <Seveas> every time you ask, one hour extra09:44
Xinaxok09:44
jimmywwno one knows when today though09:44
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Xinaxwhen when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when  when?09:45
Xinax:x09:45
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong what??09:45
tombshe was fast... LOL09:45
d1n0are there no big updates in the final release today?09:45
MrBisterAnyone from Sweden online?09:45
SbucatxD09:45
bugSmasherHursaa09:46
KaiserlichMrBister: sure09:46
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong how to do that?09:46
susscorfa!se | MrBister09:46
ubotuMrBister: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se09:46
MrBistertips om snabb svensk ftp-spegel? :D09:46
KaiserlichMrBister: sunet?09:46
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jflashis there a big diference btw stalling twisted from a tarball and installing it with aptitute?09:47
WaltzingAlongSp0tUb: jump to a vterminal. type  lspci  && lsusb                           copy then paste your output to       http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/09:47
WaltzingAlongjflash: the package manager cannot keep track of that which was not installed through the package managers (through apt/dpkg)09:48
jflashi can't get access to python-twisted on the repos because i'm running Ubuntu Breeze ( old )09:48
livingdaylightHOLA UBUNTEROS ! ! !09:48
kalhi is gutsy out yet?09:48
cafuegoEvery time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.09:48
Seeker`kal: no09:48
tombsdoes anyone knows how to convert .avi to .rm please?09:48
* livingdaylight is listening to Europe - Its THE FINAL COUNTDOWN ! ! !09:48
Seveaslivingdaylight, err, there will be a countdown every 6 months :p09:48
livingdaylight.... We're leaving together...09:49
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong a Vterminal?? What is that, sorry, but i dont know09:49
Seveaslivingdaylight, and partying in #ubuntu-release-party please09:49
livingdaylight:? ok, senor09:49
WaltzingAlongSp0tUb: "text mode", command prompt, "dos"; not sure where to find it in gnome09:49
dxdtlivingdaylight:   do do do due do!  do do do!  do do do di due!  great, now that's gonna be in my head all day...... :(09:49
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong can i use my "Terminal"?09:50
dxdtDoes Gutsy come with DOS like windows95 or is it more like XP?09:50
zerokwtf09:50
Four23619o please no09:50
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WaltzingAlongdxdt: neither really are good comparisons09:50
d1n0its more like windows 9809:50
Four23619if Gutsy was ever like Windows XP....09:51
Four23619yuck09:51
Sp0tUbXP suxx :-)09:51
Impianhi guys :-) we all waiting for Gutsy then are we? :-)09:51
Sp0tUbVista too09:51
cafuegodxdt: it's more like Linux with Gnome, actually.09:51
SeveasImpian, #ubuntu-release-party is ;)09:51
Four23619KDE4 is looking nice09:51
Seveascafuego, shocking!09:51
zerokImpian, nope, this is the official leopard channel :P09:51
bet0xwhat is the localized channel for argentina?09:51
Impianrofl!09:51
cafuegoSeveas: It ort to be illegal!09:51
doppelgaengerIs the 7.10 final already up ?09:51
jimmywwno09:51
Sp0tUbno09:51
Seveasno09:51
bet0xno09:51
oledxdt: go wash your mouth ;)09:51
cafuegoEvery time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.09:51
ncno09:51
Four23619no09:52
jimmywwno yet09:52
Seveasno09:52
dxdtchrist nobody reads the topic or checks ubuntu.com09:52
bet0xno09:52
doppelgaengerargl :-(09:52
Seveaslet's all say no :p09:52
K99Brainno09:52
doppelgaengerno09:52
dxdtyes09:52
XsteelWolfAnyone good with iptables that could help out?09:52
Impianno :p09:52
Four23619no09:52
bet0xno09:52
nc:p09:52
CyberJack_77no09:52
ncno09:52
bet0xno09:52
jimmywwno again09:52
doppelgaengerXsteelWolf, use shorewall ;-)09:52
dxdtnein09:52
Impianno, but it's working as intended.09:52
bet0xno09:52
jimmywwno09:52
nat3- -"09:52
Seveasstill no09:52
susscorfa!iptables | XsteelWolf09:52
ubotuXsteelWolf: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).09:52
jimmywwnope09:52
jimmywwnah09:52
bet0x!<../< | <-->09:52
Impianlast time i checked, which was 10 seconds ago, still nope sorry :p09:52
XsteelWolfApplying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore: line 2 failed .anyone know this error?09:52
bet0x:D09:52
cafuegoCurrently on schedule for Saturday Nov 15 2031 @ 15:2009:52
bjwebbhi09:52
Seveascafuego, ;)09:52
jimmywwnot quite09:52
dxdtXsteelWolf: are you sudoing it?09:53
moDumasssusscorfa hmm, i may have some issues then,09:53
dxdtXsteelWolf: like sudo iptables-restore09:53
bet0xwhat is the localized channel for argentina?09:53
doppelgaengerXsteelWolf, the syntax is quite complex so it can be a lot which cuases such a parse error09:53
jimmywwnot currently09:53
doppelgaengerno09:53
jimmywwso still no09:53
doppelgaengercya later09:53
jimmywwcya09:53
cafuegoSeveas: it feels like it's all the 300 extra suers ask about09:53
XsteelWolfi just did nano /etc/sysconfig/iptables ,paste in my firewall rules and did a service iptables restart09:53
XsteelWolfand i got this error09:53
MrBisterdo you guys think it will run fine on a P3-900MHz with SCSI disks?09:54
susscorfai guess you can disable it easily moDumass09:54
Seveasalmost 1500 people in here and the US is still sleeping09:54
moDumasssusscorfa im struggling to get it going09:54
cafuegothey've been asleep since 6 years ago09:54
dxdtSeveas: well, not totally right.   I mean I'm from the US09:54
willwill@now09:54
Seveasshall we break 1600?09:54
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: October 18 2007, 08:54:24 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day09:54
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong another thing, i just got a Vega 1221 laptop, and the screen is lighting up and down, even when i use the laptop, is that a typical error?09:54
Seveascafuego, ;)09:54
cafuegoBut that's really not topical right now or right here ;-)09:54
willwill@now America/New York09:54
ubotuCurrent time in America/New_York: October 18 2007, 04:54:49 - Next meeting: MOTU Mentoring in 1 day09:54
WaltzingAlongSp0tUb: does not sound so.09:55
WaltzingAlong!fixres | Sp0tUb09:55
ubotuSp0tUb: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:55
susscorfai guess diriver support also improved moDumass otherwise just first try it from live cd09:55
karnage42so is there any hope for raid support to be integrated into ubuntu...perhaps in heron?09:55
dxdtThey went with Heron instead of Hungry Hippos???? That sucks.09:56
moDumassE: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.9_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 209:56
susscorfai have no idea of the error moDumass09:57
Assidheya09:57
Assidwoohoo gutsy is final :P09:58
moDumasssusscorfa its an error that gets thrown up when i try to install nvidia-glx-new in any way09:58
cyphaseyep :)09:58
* cyphase is downloading09:58
jscinozwill much change from the RC to final?09:58
Assidjscinoz: not really much09:59
XsteelWolfI added this exactly to /etc/sysconfig/iptables -> http://www.pastebin.ca/740838 can someone let me know what's the error?09:59
mahoneHi, what is the command to see the UUIDs of mounted partitions?09:59
Assidmahone: mount   should show it09:59
Assidyou could also check /etc/fstab if they are mounted09:59
dxdtmahone: I think they would be in fstab.  You could check there09:59
tonyyarusso!uuid | mahone09:59
ubotumahone: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)09:59
jscinozmalhone, you could try this "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid"09:59
dxdtwell that was handy ubotu09:59
l3dxanyone knows anything if gutsy will be released today?09:59
Assidl3dx: yes09:59
Assidl3dx: if you are using the released candidate.. adept will take care of everything10:00
jscinozwhy do fat32 drives have such short uuids?10:00
l3dxI'm currently on feisty10:00
Impianright, gutsy gibbon is out :p10:00
Impianchange the motd? lol10:00
jscinozout? yays10:00
bullgard4Why does Ubuntu allocate for the udev filesystem 248 MB disk space although it uses only a very small amount (112K) of it?10:00
murlidharis it out?????10:00
dxdtwebpage doesn't show it as out10:01
accumulatorcoming soon10:01
_Ra_:)10:01
WebGuestyay!10:01
susscorfamoDumass: did you gogole it?10:01
murlidharyeah it's out check out this http://releases.ubuntu.com/10:01
moDumasssusscorfa yeh ive been googling it since last night10:01
mahoneOK, blkid works fine. Thanks10:01
murlidharhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/10:02
MyrttiTHE RELEASE IS NOT OFFICIAL YET10:02
Keypad_NZLies.10:02
Seveasbullgard4, it doesn't. The FS is in memory10:02
Myrttiplease, hold your horses10:02
murlidharMyrtti: it's official10:02
WebGuestIts out though :D10:02
Keypad_NZIts out10:02
Assidpeople should use torrents as much as possible10:02
Seveasnow chill.10:02
vistakillerwhat time will be out 6.10?10:02
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Assidit helps use the bandwith of the peers and allows more people to get it sooner than later10:02
Myrttivistakiller: "when it's done"10:02
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vistakiller:)10:02
Seveasthere's no need to riot in here, this is a support channel. Release partying in #ubuntu-release-party10:02
t94xrhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/10:03
t94xrITS OUT!!!10:03
arcad3today is the release day?10:03
stdinno it's not10:03
dxdtvistakiller: 6.10 has been out for a while10:03
willwillEvery time you ask or complain, it's delayed by another hour.10:03
SbucatGUTSY IS OUT10:03
* Seveas sharpens the kickstick10:03
dxdtI can actually feel the webpage slowing down from you people refreshing10:04
dxdtstop it10:04
susscorfasorry i cant help you any futher moDumass10:04
Assidhhaaha10:04
Seveasdxdt, :)10:04
xipietotecgah, stupid suspend is only putting one of my cpu's to sleep10:04
Assidtorrent... people should use torrents10:04
moDumasssusscorfa thats alright, il keep checkin back every few hours, hopefully someone will know whats wrong10:04
arcad3when it will be safe to update to 7.10?10:04
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moDumass!geforce10:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about geforce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:04
Assidarcad3: today ? tomorrow?10:04
AssidmoDumass: ?10:05
Assid!nvidia | moDumass10:05
ubotumoDumass: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:05
nikolasase10:05
nikolasase10:05
nikolasase10:05
nikolasase10:05
nikolasase10:05
nikolasase10:05
kalhi the ubuntu page seems slow10:05
moDumassAssid, ive been there, i think its a repository issue10:05
kalis it out yet?10:05
AyabaraThe window decoration on my Compiz won't start, so I get no title bars on my windows. Anyone got an idea how to fix this?10:05
arcad3nikola esti romanka/10:05
Seveaskal, that's because people glued their F5 button10:05
AssidmoDumass: if your using gutsy, the alternate drivers should be loaded10:05
kalgood idea!10:05
superkirbyartist!language > arcad310:06
tucunalooks like 7.10 has been released: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/10:06
Assidor atleast should have prompted you to do so10:06
xipietotecSeveas, would you have any clue regarding this? My suspend isn't working, and I don't even think it has much to do with the nvidia binary...its not throwing up errors from the gpu or anything, it's just only putting 1 of my cpu's to sleep10:06
Assidyou should really mention what problemsyou are facing tho10:06
moDumassAssid, Restricted Drivers is turned off and when i try to turn them back on it throws up an error message10:06
UB`do you know why Gutsy is not been released yet?10:06
AssidmoDumass: really odd..10:06
UB`the final release10:06
dxdtxipietotec: load X without the nvidia driver real quikc and see if the problem is still there10:07
tonyyarussoUB`: #ubuntu-release-party for all release anticipation stuff10:07
MadpilotUB`, because it's not ready? And it's only about 9am local in London10:07
AssidUB`: it has.. you should wait for mirrors to be udpated if it isnt.10:07
superkirbyartistUB` They went to bed in their timezone.10:07
BWGamesMadpilot: 10am local in london10:07
tonyyarussoAssid: no, it has not.10:07
Assidits not ?10:07
MadpilotBWGames, close enough10:07
UB`superkirbyartist :)10:07
BWGamesMadpilot: true ;)10:07
digitalspaghettiIs it safe to run update-manager -c -d yet?10:07
Assidwtf is those links im seeing?10:07
UB`thanks10:07
xipietoteclemme try killing compiz entirely for a moment and trying it.... brb10:07
tonyyarussoAssid: not until the topic changes in #ubuntu-release-party - /msg ubotu links10:07
moDumassAssid, and this is the error i get when i try to install it through term http://www.pastebin.org/515510:07
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zrkhi10:08
AssidmoDumass: i really am not the best person to help you on this.. ask the channel10:08
bugSmasher"ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso" : Aborting the torrent as it was rejected by the tracker while not connected to any peers.  Message from the tracker: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker.10:09
superkirbyartistIf you want Gusty say 23432.10:09
dxdtno10:09
Myrtti!traffic10:09
ubotuNOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!10:09
zrkhave anyone who can tell me how to use QQ10:09
ybotkAh, can't join #ubuntu+110:10
JymmmHow do you add a whole subnet ?10:10
ozzloyi have the crontab * * * * * amarok -t, but it's not working.  i can do it from the command line.  any ideas?10:10
Jymmm/2910:10
Ayabara!compiz10:10
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager10:10
Seveasozzloy, you can't launch gui things from cron10:11
ozzloySeveas: i'm not trying to launch a gui app, i'm trying to play/pause an already running gui app10:11
arcad3Jymm be more specific10:11
* ybotk wonders why it is forwarding to this channel.10:11
ozzloySeveas: also, i didn't know that.  why not?10:11
cafuego$DISPLAY10:11
Seveasozzloy, probably it still wants to open the display, ehich it can't10:11
superkirbyartistSOFTWARE UPGRADES!10:11
ozzloyiiinteresting10:12
ozzloyi vaguely recall this10:12
Madpilotybotk, +1 is closed until the next dev version starts up in 2-3 weeks10:12
jscinozhey Cafuego and Seveas, never seen you guys on irc before, love your repos though :)10:12
Tesla|Workcant see ant seeds on ubuntu 7.10 desktop o386 torrent :(10:12
Necrosan_the the bcm fwcutter stuff10:12
Necrosan_what firmware do i neeed10:12
Necrosan_?10:12
ozzloyi have to do something like display 0:0 amarok -t10:12
* cafuego denies all knowledge10:12
Necrosan_im using amd64 btw10:12
Seveas!enter | Necrosan_10:12
ubotuNecrosan_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:12
JBAlaskawow banned from the release party channel for  posting the live link to 7.10 WTH?10:12
Jymmmarcad3: I need to add a range of ip's /29 subnet, not sure how. using alises eth0:30 just doens't seem right10:12
ybotkSeveas, Do you know why #ubuntu+1 is forwarding here?10:12
Necrosan_sorry dude, got an answer?10:12
jscinozybotk, because of the gutsy release?10:13
Seveasybotk, Madpilot told you10:13
dxdtJBAlaska: maybe you should have read teh topic.10:13
hyper_chhiho, the torrent tracker has problems... Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] --> I downloaded the ISOs but can't seed... suggestions?10:13
JBAlaskabut I'm downloading the darn final now lol10:13
dxdtJBAlaska: I'm actually pretty sure it specifically told you not to post links like that.  That is probably why.10:13
JBAlaskanot rc10:14
ybotkOkay, I apologize I missed it.  I see it now.10:14
jscinozHey guys, im trying to generate a repository using falcon 2.0, however on running "falcon scan" or "falcon clean" the program crashes with the following output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41040/10:14
murlidharhyper_ch: cuz it's not yet official released10:14
* cafuego nudges Seveas10:14
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Seveasjscinoz, falcon is not included in ubuntu and #ubuntu does not support it10:14
Seveascafuego, sshhh it's broken :p10:14
jscinoz:(10:14
cafuego1.x works fine ;-)10:15
Seveascafuego, package doesn't install on anything newer than dapper :p10:15
cafuegoor whatever it is that i have10:15
cafuegoSeveas: I'm running it on amd64 feisty <heh>10:15
sebrockAnyone using the Intel DG33TL motherboard? Is it supported?10:15
cafuegoI may or may not have modified the debian/control file though10:15
Ralfmyes ... finnish downloading the gutsy iso :-)10:15
hyper_chmurlidhar: why is it here then? http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/10:16
Jymmmarcad3: understand?10:16
cafuegoOh no, it's in the chroot.10:16
Assidpeople DONT DOWNLOAD10:16
Ed_LwalEDLi200610:16
arcad3not quite10:16
Ed_Loh shit10:16
tonyyarusso!ohmy | Ed_L10:16
ubotuEd_L: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.10:16
Tesla|WorkAssid: how about torrents?10:16
cafuegoh4x10:16
murlidharYes please don't DOWNLOAD10:16
Jymmmarcad3 I have 30 ip addressesm how do I configure them on one box?10:16
ozzloySeveas: it was this: * * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 amarok -t10:17
hyper_chwhy is it here10:17
cafuegoJymmm: eth0:0 eth0:1,... eth0:2910:17
willwillmurlidhar$ why?10:17
Myrtti!link | hyper_ch10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:17
Myrttiach10:17
Jymmmcafuego: what if it was a /23 ?  that be HUGE10:17
hyper_chMyrtti: ???10:17
arcad3u want those 30 addresses to be routed to eth0:..?10:17
ozzloythank you!10:17
Myrttihyper_ch: it's not official yet, changes may come10:17
cafuegoJymmm: Lots of typing in interfaces(5) eh?10:17
moDumasshey channel of love and understanding, why forth art not my vidcard being as 3d as it can be?10:18
hyper_chMyrtti: why was it then put there? a few min ago there were no isos there ... nothing10:18
moDumasswhy forth giveth it this error msg http://www.pastebin.org/515510:18
ozzloySeveas: thank you!  gnight everyone!10:18
MadpilotmoDumass, I'm not a vidcard expert, but bonus points for being Shakespearean. :)10:18
Myrttihyper_ch: testing purposes or any good reason you might come up with, but not official release10:18
|Assid|stupid net connection10:18
hyper_chMyrtti: that sux ;)10:19
Jymmmarcad3 I want of them to responde on the same eth010:19
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cafuegomoDumass: Because it would appear that nvidia-glx-new is not conflicting with nvidia-glx, like it maybe should.10:19
oobedoes anyone know if there are any compatablity issues using 64 version of ubuntu10:19
arcad3hmm10:19
GrymnyrMyrtti, is the release not official yet? so there can come changes today?10:19
AssidTesla|Work: torrents should be okay since its peer driven10:19
cafuegomoDumass: Just remove nvidia-glx-new first, you'll be right.10:19
oobelike not being able to install certan packages10:19
kishan!party10:19
ubotuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Gutsy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties10:19
arcad3on eth0 is ur IP and u can route those 30 ips to an external interface EX:eth110:19
fay_elfHow ppp+firewall? Nothing works guarddog, protocols selected dhcp allow ppp010:20
[XS]!topic10:20
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic10:20
murlidharMyrtti: sorry i should have known that it is for tesiting purposes and i dugg it :(10:20
hyper_chMyrtti: luckily I didn't start downloading from my server to my computer yet ;)10:20
moDumasscafuego, nvidia-glx-new isnt installed in synaptic, should i remove it completely10:20
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murlidharSeveas: i didn't know that it was testing purposes sorry10:20
Myrttimurlidhar: relax10:21
youseris   gutsy   officially in  update    manager??????10:21
Myrttiyouser: no10:21
WikzoDoes anyone know when 7.10 will be in the official update manager?10:21
youseralright  good i thoughht  my ubuntu was shitting  onn me10:21
Grymnyrwho is in charge of this channel? I mean, who has op and can unban people? I know a guy, who was not so long ago banned, but it was an error10:21
ybotkSeveas, It was just a joke :)10:21
MyrttiWikzo: soon10:21
MyrttiGrymnyr: consult #ubuntu-ops for such issues10:22
bullgard4Seveas: Thank you for your hint.10:22
kane77are there packages for groovy available?10:22
alainhello.. want to ask.. y is my menu icons are gone... all i can see are text.10:22
GrymnyrMyrtti, thanks10:22
mobalhi10:23
youseralso i couldnt rc upgrade because  dbus  couldnt initiate and current dist was not  found in  meta-release file10:23
stereo__moin talex10:23
moDumasscafuego should i remove it completely even though neither of them are installed?10:23
alaini dont know wat went wrong the icons on my main menu are gone.. wat should i do to make it back10:23
mobali need the new release10:23
mobalit will be good10:23
mobali know :D10:23
cafuegomoDumass: The package system certainly thinks it's installed.10:24
kalhi where can i track the gutsy release?10:24
hydra_someone downloading it already?10:24
Madpilot!gutsy10:24
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information10:24
endrahow can I tell aptitude to double check xubuntu-desktop is installed correctly?10:24
cousin_luigihello10:24
MyrttiIt's not released yet10:24
kalok thanks10:24
Grymnyri started downloading it, but then i cancelled, when i found out, it's not official yet?10:24
moDumasscafuego is there a way to see what is installed for sure?10:24
mobalit will be released sonn afternoon...10:24
Myrttiplease, if you get any urls to downloads, DO NOT DOWNLOAD YET10:24
* cousin_luigi is scared of dist-upgrade10:24
cafuegodpkg -l | grep nvidia10:24
hydra_Myrtti: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/10:24
moDumasscafuego, via term i mean?10:24
lousygaruahow do i use command-line tools to get info about a package?10:24
cousin_luigiany issues from feisty?10:24
mobaland please use bittorrent the severs will be a little choppy i think :S10:25
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kane77lousygarua, aptitude show packagename10:25
defryskhttp://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/10:25
GrymnyrMyrtti, why is that? will it be a problem for you, if we start downloading?10:25
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endorphinthe bittorrent-tracker doesn't have the release yet :(10:25
lousygaruakane77, thx10:25
mobalyes10:25
MyrttiGrymnyr: because it's not official yet10:25
E_mEhi, my resoultion is buggered in KDE... how can i dump from KDE into console with out it trying to get my resoultion to work??10:25
DaMi3nany ops here can.. u please tell me why i was kick banned from ubuntu-release-party????10:25
kalwhy was hydra banned? did she give us a fake link?10:25
Madpilotdefrysk, do NOT post URLs please, final is NOT out yet...10:25
enneth/topic10:25
DaMi3nno reasons given whatsoever10:25
defryskkk10:25
alaini need help.. plss my main menu icons are gone wat should i do ???10:26
WaltzingAlongE_mE: ctrl+alt+f110:26
mobalafterrnon download from www.ubuntu.com10:26
[chr0n0s]how do i format a partition ?, i have already created one using fdisk10:26
kalok Madpilot thanks10:26
[chr0n0s]how do i format a partition to ext3?, i have already created one using fdisk10:26
E_mEWaltzingAlong: im pressing it with little success10:26
cousin_luigimobal: is it usually released after 13:00 UTC?10:26
DaMi3nany ops here can.. u please tell me why i was kick banned from ubuntu-release-party,no reasons given whatsoever????10:26
oobedoes anyone know where i can find a page on how to upgread from feisty to gutsy10:26
kane77alain, have you tried restarting your panel?10:26
murlidharalain: just logout and then login by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace10:26
[chr0n0s]!upgrade | oobe10:27
ubotuoobe: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - Please join #ubuntu+1 for questions about upgrading to Gutsy, and use #ubuntu for "normal" support only10:27
oobethanks10:27
fay_elfIs it possible to have firewall+ppp connection with guarddog and how? I selected protocols, dhcp allow ppp0 but nothing works10:27
alaini did that already many times.. but still dont have main menu icons10:27
MadpilotDaMi3n, likely for posting URLs to non-final ISOs10:27
WaltzingAlongE_mE: you can kill the x session with ctrl+alt+backspace10:27
tombsdoes anyone knows how to convert .avi to .rm please?10:27
kalguess i'll come back after lunch then... cya10:27
mobalbyú10:28
Rowanso when are the gutsy torrents going to be online?10:28
MinorNerdI actually thought 7.10 would be released today 00:01 or something...10:28
DaMi3nMadpilot, w/o any warnings , thats not fair.. plus i asked a question instead of posting a url to iso10:28
stereo__tombs, thats not a good idea10:28
E_mEWaltzingAlong: i'm doing that.. but kubuntu automatically refires it...  so im booting into safenode now :/ and going to disable automatic desktop loading grr10:28
PepperyRowan: Never.10:28
WaltzingAlong!info mencoder | tombs10:28
RowanFeisty took like 5 hours my time :(10:28
tombsstereo__: why? :-/10:28
ubotutombs: mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9.1 (feisty), package size 3474 kB, installed size 8736 kB10:28
ybotkI hope the upgrade isn't too complicated for me.10:28
WaltzingAlongE_mE: or just sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop10:28
qzjackie你好啊10:28
Grymnyr!info mono10:29
ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB10:29
ybotkWhich it really doesn't take much to get to complicated for me.10:29
ybotkheh.10:29
Thorso the gutsy counter is at "00" but i dont see where to get it10:29
Grymnyri'm really looking forward to the new release10:29
MyrttiThor: you can't yet10:29
[chr0n0s]!hangover | Thor10:29
ubotuThor: The Release Managers are currently hungover, and wont be releasing gutsy today.  No gutsy for you!  NOT YOURS!!!10:29
fay_elfCan someone help me with ppp+firewall setup, maybe guarddog10:29
E_mEWaltzingAlong: sorry what do you mean?? where can i configure it to prevent it from automatically loading kdm?10:29
tombsThor: read the topic ;)10:29
Crozarwho says u cant its available for download10:29
Thoralrighty10:30
WaltzingAlongE_mE: anywhere where you can type you can enter that command10:30
Thorheh "hungover"10:30
WaltzingAlongE_mE: konsole10:30
MyrttiCrozar: not offically it's not10:30
Crozarhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/   if you want to download gutsy ThOR10:30
moDumasshey all, how would i uninstall nvidia-glx-new_100.14.19?10:30
WaltzingAlongmoDumass: sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx-new10:31
WaltzingAlong?10:31
mogwai_NZAnyone downloading from ubuntu.com is actually pushing back the release. Please cease till the official release.10:31
Rowanrofl oh i see10:31
Rowanhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/10:31
Crozari have download the  not official version and the file stands ubuntu-7.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso  ,, but in the site it stands ubuntu-7.10-beta-desktop-i386.isoubuntu-7.10-beta-desktop-i386.isoubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso10:31
guixhi10:31
penguincentral!hi | guix10:31
fay_elfDamn it cant you be any more inpatient??10:31
ubotuguix: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!10:31
guixmm, it's coming soon, the directory is uo :-)10:32
bh_Is there a problem with spawning tty consoles in gutsy ? any word on that ?10:32
guixlol10:32
bh_nothing is really spawning per se after the upgrae10:32
bh_upgrade10:33
guixno right now I'm busy on Drupal, I'm too busy to be impatient :-)10:33
Grymnyrtucuna, nå, der er du jo :)10:33
tucunaex-ex-communicated :)10:33
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j0hndoes anyone know what time the new release will be out not as a beta???10:34
vililikkuj0hn: No10:34
j0hnok, hopefully sometime today10:34
cousin_luigij0hn: timestamp on previous releases suggest we wait at least until 14:00 UTC10:35
j0hnok, thanks10:35
nirumy sony laptop when connected to an external monitor10:35
endorphinit's out when all ftp-mirrors have it and when the website is updated10:35
Grymnyror wait for tomorrow. after all, it's only a day10:35
endorphinyou can already download it10:35
fay_elfMe i'm hoping to get downloading around in 4 hours, not like gimme gimme now and never mind the others10:35
ybotkSeveas, how about in here to hitler?10:36
niruthe external monitorr does not show the video of the song played10:36
niruwhereas the laptop shows10:36
gladierits been 0 days to go for almost 24 hours ... has it been delayed a day10:36
cafuegoj0hn: At some stage in the past.10:36
endorphinnope10:36
carlesoriolHappy new ubuntu!10:36
endorphinit's not on all mirrors yet10:36
carlesoriolhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/10:36
j0hni was hoping not to wait only b/c i wont be around for a while after today10:37
j0hnbut ill get it10:37
moDumasshey all, im back after restart, so i restarted after enabling restricted drivers foir nvidia card10:37
livingdaylightis it official???10:37
cousin_luigiit's out??'10:37
cousin_luigiwow10:37
agletI'm having a problem with XScreensaver, NIS & PAM -- xscreensaver doesn't lock, and barfs out with a "Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info." error... this is Ubuntu 7.04 & xscreensaver 5.03.  Any ideas?10:37
livingdaylightis it?!10:37
livingdaylightNOW?10:37
CobrauKsorry to be annoying, but are the files on releases.ubuntu.com the official?10:37
yalu_is an apt-get dist-upgrade a perfect way to upgrade to gutsy?10:37
cafuegono10:37
cafuegoyes10:37
cafuegono10:37
endorphinyes it's out but not official to not overload the servers10:37
moDumassbut now i only have 1 quarter of a display, the top left quarter, any ideas?10:37
cousin_luigisomething changed10:37
misfitpierceNo they are not on releases yet10:37
misfitpiercethats from the 16th not the 18th10:37
CobrauKso they are from the 16th :)10:38
niruany body10:38
WaltzingAlongmisfitpierce: man rsync10:38
niruprojector does not show the video with sony laptop10:38
niruonly laptop gives the video and audio10:38
WaltzingAlongwatch the channel topic /topic           when released, topic will be changed accordingly10:38
bullgard4English help wanted: What does 'on the fly' mean in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt: "... It has maximum size limits which can10:38
bullgard4be adjusted on the fly via 'mount -o remount ...'10:38
Seveasbullgard4, in this case: 'without unmounting or rebooting'10:39
endorphinit's already released ... but the ftp-mirrors can't update in zero time -.-10:39
bullgard4Seveas: and generally?10:39
extrakickmorning all, was hoping 7.10 would be releaed by now, hahaha10:39
diabolixhuh.. did that link script get set up?10:39
moDumasshmm, any ideas?10:39
diabolixexit10:40
chris5482hello, i would like to know how i can connect to other computer with ssh command on port 7500 (i mean the host computer listing on 7500) ?10:40
Seveasbullgard4, 'without doing something disruptive'10:40
karnage42hey10:40
bullgard4Seveas: Thank you for explaining.10:40
moDumasscan anyone help me out here, i can only see the top left 800X600 portion of my monitor10:40
misfitpiercemoDumass got XGL on by chance?10:40
endorphincut the rest away10:40
moDumassmisfitpierce, i was trying to get it up and going, so possibly10:41
misfitpiercein gutsy?10:41
moDumassmisfitpierce, indeed10:41
misfitpierceThat happened to me. I forget exact reason why it happened but I took XGL back off.10:41
misfitpierceDid you play with compiz settings?10:42
generalsnusubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent   .. is this not the final release..or what?10:42
moDumassmisfitpierce, how did you do that?10:42
extrakickgeneralsnus, i doubt its not the rc version10:42
chris5482what is the default port of ssh server ?10:42
WaltzingAlongchris5482: 2210:43
moDumassmisfitpierce, no, my machine said that i didnt have nvidia-xgl-new installed, but when i tried enabling it errored out so i removed it and reinstalled it10:43
[chr0n0s]i have mounted a USB drive, i created partitions, formatted to ext3, now only root can write on it.. how to change permissions for the /dev/sdb1 partition?10:43
zasfis gutsy out?10:43
Myrttino10:43
endorphinyes10:43
tombswell....I'm downloading something here... --> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/10:43
ChaosParserWhy the hell are people getting booted from a ubuntu chat for posting a ubuntu link??10:44
SkareCrowSo has Gutsy been released? I keep getting rejected by the tracker on the torrent.10:44
chris5482when i am trying to connect other computer via ssh command i get an error msg : Host key verification failed. ?10:45
MyrttiPeople, We're still waiting for all the mirrors to synchronize, please do NOT download any isos yet NOR rotate the links to download sites10:45
endorphinChaosParser: because somebody wants to play god10:45
tonyyarussoChaosParser: because they are not final - people don't understand the process by which things are distributed.10:45
tonyyarussoSmall changes are still made to the images after they appear on the mirrors.10:45
MekApelsinSkareCrow: they are syncing the servers....10:45
MyrttiPLEASE, PLEASE be patient!10:45
tombsSeveas: sorry man ;)10:45
ChaosParserendorphin: tonyyarusso thats nice.  The admins still need some manners.  It's generally nice to tell someone WHY you've banned them from a channel.  :(10:46
rgltonyyarusso, what changes?  aren't the images immutable?10:46
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stdinChaosParser: #ubuntu-ops is the place to comment/complain10:46
SkareCrowthis sucks10:46
tonyyarussoChaosParser: Well, read the topics.  This channel says it's for support only, and #ubuntu-release-party says no links.10:46
SmoothOphttp://www.cspromod.com/10:46
SkareCrowGutsy is about to come out and I am being attacked by some nubs10:46
tonyyarussorgl: Nope - rsync can make minor changes to the images.  What those changes are varies, depending on final testing and such.10:47
EricNeonhttp://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/    I  can got it!10:47
cousin_luigitonyyarusso: what about torrent images?10:47
rgltonyyarusso, ah.  you mean they are still rsyncing.  ok.10:47
cousin_luigitonyyarusso: will they change as well?10:47
tonyyarussocousin_luigi: not sure how torrent files handle the changes, but I'm assuming it's similar.10:47
tsukasaanyone know if firestarter works if its not running10:48
cousin_luigitonyyarusso: well a recheck would fix the issue10:48
tsukasais there a daemon part of it or no10:48
extrakickwell we been waiting up until now, so hanging on for a lettle while is no biggy until 7.10 is redy on the offical website10:48
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NielsEtsukasa yeah he is10:48
Seveastsukasa, the rules firestarter sets will still apply if the gui is not running10:48
tsukasaokay cool10:48
abhiberahow to recover accidentally deleted files10:48
cousin_luigiit's been a pleasure people10:49
cousin_luigibbl10:49
WaltzingAlongabhibera: which file system?10:49
abhiberaWaltzingAlong: ext310:49
dooglusif I update to gutsy now, will I get the same as the final release?10:49
WaltzingAlongdooglus: close enough10:50
therethinkerWait, is gutsy not out yet?10:50
ribasushiyou guys have something against windows users?10:50
ChaosParsertonyyarusso: And it doesn't occur to the Ops that someone might not be able to see the full topic?10:50
WaltzingAlongtherethinker: correct no official release announcement yet10:50
mc44ribasushi: nope10:50
Myrttitherethinker: nox-Hand_10:50
Myrttitherethinker: no10:50
therethinkerthanks... I 'm surprised...10:50
ribasushimc44: someone in ##linux is making a fuss about being banned, just curious :)10:50
tonyyarussoChaosParser: no, we assume you know how to use your IRC client of choice.10:50
dooglusthe topic says " Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ: https://h10:50
extrakicknothing against windows users, i just preffer using linux now, hahaha, although i still use xp everynow and then10:50
mc44ribasushi: people who get banned tend to make a fuss ;)10:50
doogluson a standard 80-column terminal10:50
sam1103morning everyone10:51
tonyyarussodooglus: what's /topic say ?10:51
CobrauKmoning10:51
CobrauKmorning*10:51
Madpilotribasushi, we try and rescue windows users from their OS - what's the nick of the complainer?10:51
dooglustonyyarusso: it's ugly - lots of long URLs10:51
ribasushi<Sid> (5:47:26 PM) You have joined ubuntu10:51
ribasushi<Sid> (5:47:27 PM) You have been kicked from #ubuntu (No fucking WINDOWS users, BITCH!)10:51
WaltzingAlong!info friendly-recover | abhibera10:51
ubotuabhibera: Package friendly-recover does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:51
WikzoI got this 3. part softwaresource on Ubuntu 7.04: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu (feisty-commercial) - should I remove/change it before upgrading to 7.10?10:51
Myrttiribasushi: complaints to #ubuntu-ops10:51
ChaosParsertonyyarusso: Cute.  'Cept that it has nothing to do with10:52
WaltzingAlong!info recover | abhibera10:52
Madpilotribasushi, there isn't an op in Ubuntu who'd put that in a /remove message.10:52
ubotuabhibera: recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-11 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 104 kB10:52
sam1103so is this the place to be for finding out the SECOND gutsy is released?10:52
tonyyarussosam1103: nope - #ubuntu-release-party for that10:52
Voker57will gutsy's torrents be available instantly after release?  ;)10:52
ChaosParsertonyyarusso: How to use it.  excuse the double line post.  Opera cuts off the topic.  No wayto fix it.  Period.  Would you like a screenshot?10:52
abhiberaWaltzingAlong: but i'm on ext310:52
tonyyarussoVoker57: #ubuntu-release-party please10:52
Seveassam1103, no that would be canonical HQ10:52
mc44Wikzo: the canonical repository isn't third party, technically ;)10:52
sam1103ok cheers tony10:52
abhiberaWaltzingAlong: and i'm using edgy10:52
doogluswill gutsy have a defrag program?  that's something I miss in feisty10:52
tonyyarussoChaosParser: perhaps another day....10:52
WaltzingAlongabhibera: ext3 is ext2 with journaling10:52
Wikzomc44: What then?10:52
WaltzingAlong!info recover edgy | abhibera10:52
abhiberaoh :)10:52
ubotuabhibera: recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB10:53
extrakickdoes linux need to be defragmented?10:53
mc44Wikzo: the gutsy commercial repo doesn't exist yet, so you may as well remove it, yes10:53
vililikkuextrakick: No10:53
dooglusextrakick: just the hard disks10:53
arno-tcan I make synaptic ignore a dependency? I need to ignore libc6, but can't figure out how. synaptic just want to "fix" the problem uninstalling the package I need...10:53
WaltzingAlongextrakick: which file system (and no)10:53
MadpilotChaosParser, do "/topic" to see the channel topic again10:53
WaltzingAlongarno-t: coulde use --force10:53
Wikzomc44: It won't make my Update Manager unable to find the new version, when it is released?10:53
dukserver / irc.oltreirc.net10:53
dooglusWaltzingAlong: ext3 - mine gets slower and slower.  it's over 10% fragmented at the last fsck10:53
WaltzingAlong!defragment10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about defragment - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:54
mc44Wikzo: it should find it if you leave it in10:54
ChaosParserMadpilot: TOPIC Not enough parameters10:54
extrakick!defragment10:54
dooglus!defrag10:54
ubotudefragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.10:54
ChaosParserMadpilot: But thanks for trying :)10:54
Wikzomc44: And if I delete it?10:54
MadpilotChaosParser, it's /topic with the leading slash and no quotes10:54
mc44Wikzo: then you can add it back later when the repo exists, if you want10:54
williamwade anyone know how to install azureus 3 on ubuntu? the only thing on Add/Remove is 2.010:54
dooglusseems to be a common misconception10:54
williamwadeand i can't install if i download from the site10:54
Bazzer!defragment10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about defragment - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:54
MadpilotChaosParser, I used to use Opera's chat, I know /topic works10:54
arno-tyes, I did dpkg-install it with override dependencies. It works great (imagick PECL package for php) But now synaptic complains that the package is broken...10:55
Wikzomc44: My question is: If I have removed it (Feisty), will I still be able to upgrade via the Update Manger?10:55
skyrakerI've got Beryl installed (doesnt work mind)... reckon I should remove it before dropping gutsy on?10:55
CobrauKif i put in /topic i get error 461: not enough parameters10:55
moDumassthanks for the help[ person who helped me a second ago10:55
moDumassgimme a min and il find your na,e10:55
moDumassname10:55
mc44Wikzo: if you've only removed the commercial repo then update manager should work fine10:55
KalElCobrauK: /topic #ubuntu10:55
Seveasskyraker, yes10:55
Wikzomc44: Ok10:55
CobrauKah lol10:56
CobrauKty10:56
dooglusgutsy took 10 minutes to download, and reckons it's going to take 2 hours to install...10:56
skyrakerSeveas, Cheers pal10:56
KalEldooglus: which gutsy? is the release out yet?10:56
williamwade anyone know how to install azureus 3 on ubuntu? the only thing on Add/Remove is 2.010:56
williamwadeand i can't install if i download from the site10:56
jhaigdooglus: Depends on your hardware, but I've installed the RC a couple of times and it took about half an hour each time.10:56
Ash-FoxKalEl, it will be out today.10:56
dooglusKalEl: the version in the repositories.  probably just the development version10:56
KalEloh ok thanks10:56
KalEli'll wait10:57
cosmoshi10:57
dooglusjhaig: my hard disk is very fragmented.  it keeps getting slower and slower.  I think that's the problem.10:57
* yalu_ removes old crap before doing the upgrade10:57
mogwai_NZ<tonyyarusso> So, the files are up, and about the right size for an ISO, but still not the final product.10:57
dooglusjhaig: it's quite a new fast machine, with loads of RAM10:57
jhaigdooglus: I don't think you mean fragmented, but maybe the disk is failing.10:57
Ash-Foxdooglus, majority of filesystems under Linux don't need defragmenting.10:57
gladier... has gutsy been released or noT?? some people say yes, some say no ... i cant get it at the moment10:57
Ash-Foxgladier, no.10:57
williamwadenop10:58
dooglusjhaig: I don't think it's failing - I can read and write data with perfect accuracy.  but it's over 10% fragmented according to fsck10:58
jhaigdooglus: If it were just a matter of fragmentation, a reformat would fix it.10:58
Ash-Foxgladier, it will be out today.10:58
williamwadethe RC is floating around10:58
yalu_jhaig: dooglus , fragmentation does happen and it slows down disks, but usually only with with disks that are crammed to their fullest10:58
Seveasgladier, it has *not*10:58
dooglusjhaig: reformatting has other side-effects though, like potential data loss10:58
dooglusyalu_: it's quite full, yes10:58
gladierbetter hrury up .. there aint much to "today" left over here :P10:58
williamwade anyone know how to install azureus 3 on ubuntu? the only thing on Add/Remove is 2.010:58
williamwadethe RC is floating around10:58
shtoomwhen I try to run gnome applications I am getting /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2  undefined symbol :gzopen6410:58
shtoomany fix for it ?10:58
misfitpierceSo were clear the torrents are dated the 18th... They recently just started taking off download wise.... Does this mean we have a winner?10:59
misfitpierceSimple question10:59
extrakickwould it be best to do fresh install for 7.10 rather than upgrade?10:59
doogluswilliamwade: I use a version downloaded from sf.net10:59
Myrttimisfitpierce: no10:59
mc44extrakick: upgrading should be fine, assuming you haven't done anything horrible to your system10:59
xipietotecI reloaded with vesa, and I still am not going into suspend correctly: http://rafb.net/p/x7huGN42.html its only putting 1 of my cpu's to sleep11:00
misfitpierceMyrtti whats being shared across the torrents all of a sudden then? Fakes? Should I disconnect?11:00
extrakickmc44, not as far as i know, but then again im so new to linux i might have, hahah11:00
Myrttimisfitpierce: I'm not familiar with the torrents, are you on #ubuntu-release-party?11:00
samiloopi've made some funky adjustments to get 2 monitors working. if the upgrade chokes, then just reinstall it... very simple :p11:00
Myrttimisfitpierce: go ask there ;-)11:00
mc44extrakick: as long as you haven't added lots of random things from third party repositories11:00
misfitpiercek thanks11:00
extrakickmc44, ok kool, cheers11:01
Bazzer!gutsy11:01
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:01
SleftHi! I'm trying to setup a 2 computer network. Got a laptop connected to a desktop's eth0 and bridge it to the desktops eth1 which is connected to the internet. I use firestarter and prefer to use dhcp.11:01
samiloopbetter back up home dir anyway if you havent' done so recently11:01
SleftI've set firestarter to connect eth0 to lan and eth1 to internet but when it starts it says eth0 is not ready11:02
extrakickis there a way to do fresh install of 7.10 without touching home directory?11:02
Bazzer!gutsy|Bazzer11:02
derrick81787extrakick: do you happen to have you /home on a separate partition?11:03
flickhi, i have a pc with Windows XP, but since i do not want to upgrade to Vista i decided to install Ubuntu and give it a try11:03
gladierthats the way to do it ;)\11:04
Assid!gutsy11:04
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information11:04
yalu_flick: very good, you're solving bug 1#11:04
flicki've heard a lot about Ubuntu... could anyone please help me with a location on how to install it?11:04
flickhaha11:04
extrakickderrick81787, how can i be sure and check11:04
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gladierflick: wait a few hours11:04
fantixflick: good job!11:04
tonyyarusso!install | flick, a good start11:04
ubotuflick, a good start: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate11:04
flickyalu_: but it will work alongside XP right?11:04
tonyyarusso!dualboot | flick, with these notes it will11:04
ubotuflick, with these notes it will: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty11:04
flickbecause i don't want to do away with Xp right away... as i can play games there11:04
gladierflick: the newest release of ubuntu is coming out in a matter of hours11:05
flickok thanks11:05
flickoh cool11:05
WaltzingAlong!games11:05
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php11:05
flicki guess i chose the right time then! i will wait for a few hours :)11:05
murkyMurkanyone know how to change the colour of the text on a taskbar..specifically the clock text colour?11:05
flickmeanwhile i will read up the documents you gave me... thanks11:05
j0hni have a dual boot, but i never boot into xp. its just there in case theres a game i might want to play11:05
extrakickhow many gigs would be best for ubuntu operating system11:06
fantixcould anyone please tell me how to say messages without "yourname:" in IRC? Thanks.11:06
WaltzingAlongfantix: just type the message11:06
extrakicki used 7 gig is that enough11:06
fantix***thanks11:06
flickj0hn: i have no problem with xp but it is old... and i do have problems with vista. probably later on i'll also stop using xp altogether... but will be good to know it's still gonna be there in my pc11:07
flick:)11:07
fantixWaltzingAlong: I mean say something like    " ***fantix wanna a bit apple"11:07
derrick81787extrakick: 4 are required, and 8 recommended. as far as finding whether /home is in it's own directory, the only way i know how to do it is to do cat /etc/fstab11:07
WaltzingAlonglike so, see, no nickname. we use the nicknames though because irc clients can catch the nicknames, hightlighting them for each user...easier to follow when things get busy11:07
derrick81787and then look to see if there is a /home anyway11:07
murkyMurki have XP for compatibility issues with legacy hardware and software ;-)11:07
livingdaylightflick, xp is an excellent excelletn os11:07
WaltzingAlongfantix: /me wishes to know how to use the /me command11:07
derrick81787*anywhere11:07
* Ash-Fox 11:08
gladiersorry guys .. brb .. somethings taking up 99% of my ram11:08
j0hnflick: yeah, i just keep it there so its there, but i like ubuntu much more, and havent tried vista yet11:08
fantixWaltzingAlong: thx11:08
gladier(no swap :P)11:08
WaltzingAlonggladier: wonderful!11:08
Karottehi11:08
WaltzingAlong!ram11:08
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html11:08
flicklivingdaylight i concur... excellent but it is getting old, so i thought why not try the new ones that are admired by people :)11:08
NickL.11:08
KarotteIn Gutsy Gibbon, is beryl-xgl back?11:08
vililikkuKarotte: Nope11:08
mc44Karotte: there is no beryl11:08
murkyMurkKarotte: compliz-fusion11:09
extrakickderrick8187, wat about for 7.10, shoul di use 8 for that aswell.  i checked using parition editor and sadly looks like it on same parition, hahaha11:09
Karottecompiz-xgl or somethink?11:09
Karottesomething11:09
livingdaylightflick, i like your thinking...11:09
tropckysup guys is the gusty 7.10    out yet ?11:09
Ash-Foxtropcky, no.11:10
samiloopcheck the topic for info on 7.1011:10
extrakickso gonna try free up some serious space on other pritions to copy the home folder hhaha11:10
murkyMurkanytakers of changing taskbar font colour?11:10
livingdaylightflick, its also worth considering an os not just from  a personal (egotistical perspective if you like, for want of a better term) and also from wider social and philosophical point of view...11:10
extrakickwhat would be the best way to remove and format linux to get ready for 7.1011:11
derrick81787extrakick: if you're not short on disk space, i'd probably use 8 just in case. i'm sure you could get away with less, though, if you'd like. maybe when you install 7.10, you should make /home its own partition for use in the future. that's what i plan on doing this time around as well11:11
nanopino13my torrent started working, is this a good thing?11:11
WaltzingAlongextrakick: update-manager -p -c -d11:11
* Ash-Fox chose kubuntu for in his opinion, it's technical superiority over other operating systems, philosophical views had nothing todo with it.11:11
agletmurkyMurk: you could have a look in gconf-editor11:11
akrill#ubuntu-release-party11:11
guilinfdnanopino13  why not?11:11
livingdaylightflick, xp is a great os and Ubuntu is not half bad either... but xp is not open-source or supports open source fundamentals which ubuntu does11:11
akrilloops11:11
Crozarlivingdaylight: die or live11:12
extrakickwaltzingalong, wat does that mean pls? im new to linux11:12
WaltzingAlongthat point could be easily argued11:12
macPhilhi, is there a source for the mobile version of ubuntu, i want to try to install ist on an china phone11:12
nanopino13because i heard it might be the RC i'm downloading11:12
flicklivingdaylight: i suppose ubuntu will be as good as xp, may also be like what vista should have been11:12
kbrooks Is Gutsy out?11:12
WaltzingAlongextrakick: do you have already ubuntu? if so, just upgrade from what you have. if not, grab the cd when it is avaible, run the live version first, check it out, then the installer can format the disk for you11:12
mc44kbrooks: no11:12
extrakickcheers derrick8187 will definately try do that for 7.1011:12
kbrooksI heard it was.11:12
Ash-Foxkbrooks, read the topic11:12
mc44kbrooks: stop it11:12
derrick81787extrakick: that will upgrade you're current version to 7.10 without the need for a clean install or reformatting11:12
WaltzingAlongflick: i hope not11:12
kbrooksso, no. ok.[11:12
kbrookssorry.11:12
arunIsn't gutsy supposed to be out today?11:12
Myrttiyes11:13
murkyMurkaglet: yeah but where in it? desktop>gnone>font_rendering has no colour option11:13
Myrttibut not yet11:13
Crozarlivingdaylight: lets concllude , no hack no virus happy life ( exclude gaming please )11:13
mc44arun: yes, it will be11:13
Ash-Foxarun, read the topic11:13
seventhcubuntu will be better than xp ;-)11:13
flickthere's only one caveat i know of, it won't run the games, but that is fine with me as i will preserve the xp for a while11:13
flicktill ubuntu plays directx 10 games :)11:13
ZaZubuntu gutsy 7.10 DVD final version at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/11:13
arunAsh-Fox: ah, just saw that. sorry for asking.11:13
dooglusupgrading my existing install downloaded 1600MB - that's quite a lot I thought11:13
agletmurkyMurk: seems like apps/panel/applets/clock_screen0/prefs is the place, sdon't see a font colour though11:13
Ash-Foxflick, I run most of games on Kubuntu btw :P and uh.. there are even directx 10 games out there?11:13
livingdaylightflick, what do you mean by good? in many respects Ubuntu is already much better than any windows os has ever been11:13
Crozarwho wants ubuntu to play games , just buy a PS3 console and install yellowdog and Vista11:13
akrillwtf?11:13
akrillwhy was i banned from ubuntu-release-party!11:13
mc44Crozar: please stay on topic11:14
agletCrozar: PS3 ha ha11:14
Ash-Foxakrill, I don't know, ask them.11:14
WaltzingAlongakrill: mentioning the url?11:14
livingdaylightCrozar, i concur ^^11:14
Myrtti!links > akrill11:14
mc44!offtopic | livingdaylight, Crozar11:14
ubotulivingdaylight, Crozar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:14
Crozari love it when it snows and im doing my poetry11:14
flicklivingdaylight: i meant no disrespect, i am sure it is better in certain respects11:14
livingdaylightmc44, yes, Sir !11:14
Crozar:P  ubuntu ROCKZ11:14
akrillMyrtti: interesting you think thats not the final release, considering it is11:14
akrillbut whatever11:14
extrakickthanx waltzingalong, derrick818711:14
mc44akrill: it's not the final release until it's announced11:15
livingdaylightflick, mc44 forbids me to speak any more on this topic here11:15
flickAsh-Fox: good point... actually DirectX 9 will do for me as well :)11:15
derrick81787no problem, extrakick11:15
Myrttiakrill: We're still waiting for The Official Announcment11:15
rmajwill debian support keyboards?11:15
rmajbecaue 6.06 64bit livecd fails to do so11:15
dooglusrmaj: no, debian works only by telepathy11:15
WaltzingAlongrmaj: which keyboards?11:15
akrillfine. well its out to at least ONE mirror site11:15
Ash-Foxflick, direct x 9 is almost fully supported in wine :P11:15
rmajdooglus: I observe simmilar bug on debian11:15
arno-tWaltzingAlong, Yippee I found a way: googled on how to repack then extracted the original imagick deb, changed the control file to not include libc6 dependency, built and installed the new package. APT now actually has super cow powers! :D thanks11:15
murkyMurkaglet: thanks for looking though....must've been overlooked by the devs11:15
agletmurkyMurk: I don't think it can be done right now, see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16094411:15
* thumper just joined to see how many people were here11:15
flicklivingdaylight: yeah i'll not thanks i will read the docs now to get myself familiar with Ubuntu better till the new version comes out11:15
Myrttiakrill: and you've checked the MD5's?11:15
flickthanks all!11:15
rmajWaltzingAlong: ps/211:16
flickAsh-Fox: wine?11:16
derrick81787akrill: what is out? gutsy?11:16
WaltzingAlongarno-t: :D11:16
rmajand I see bug on USB11:16
Crozarbtw will theyr  be any ubuntu mobile edition for example installing in imate or iphone or SonyMobile PCmini platforms? or maybe small tablets mini11:16
mobalhi11:16
mobalneed help11:16
akrillMyrtti: i will be shortly. downloading one of them now11:16
rmajthe bug is that when pressing 'x' you get xxxxxxxxxxxxx  (for any character, at random)11:16
macPhilanyone know something of the mobile version of ubuntu where to get it, or get information11:16
Ash-Foxflick, by the way: I have found games like World of Warcraft have a better fps under wine + kubuntu VS natively under windows xp sp211:16
Myrttiderrick81787: no it's not11:16
mobalso this is hungarian ubuntu mirror11:16
mobali can download gutsy11:16
mobalit is not rc or beta?11:16
Ash-Foxflick, same hardware. While I can't confirm that's the case for all games, I know that's the case for world of warcraft.11:16
mobalhttp://ubuntu.elasztik.hu/7.10/11:16
flickAsh-Fox: wine=Windows Emulator... got it thanks! lemme look up on it!!!11:16
livingdaylightflick, no entiendo?11:16
MartixAsh-Fox, me too11:16
WaltzingAlongrmaj: something with your bios?11:17
yellow_chickenis gutsty out yet?11:17
livingdaylightflick, new version is out today11:17
mobalyepp11:17
akrillMyrtti: But for the record, the Argon National Labs mirror doesnt show the mirror until its FULLY mirrored, to prevent partial downloads.11:17
rmajWaltzingAlong: dont think so11:17
Martixyellow_chicken, yes11:17
CrozarmacPhil: im asking that myself if its possible to get a mobile version to install in imate or iphone or minitablets would be nice11:17
Ash-Foxflick, it comes preinstalled on Ubuntu, you just double click the .exe file and it will run the program11:17
mobalplease use torrent!11:17
mobalso11:17
LinuxJuggalo!es | livingdaylight11:17
ubotulivingdaylight: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.11:17
flickAsh-Fox: sorry if i misunderstood... you mean i can run windows programs in Ubuntu out of the box?11:17
Myrttiakrill: but for the record, I'm only human and I cannot know the specifics of all Ubuntu mirrors around there11:17
mobalmy link is fake?11:17
akrillMyrtti: true, hehe11:17
Ash-Foxflick, a lot of windows programs, yes. Not all, some break and will not work.11:18
dooglusmobal: the link is real, but the file is fake11:18
macPhilCrozar: as far as i know its in the makin11:18
yellow_chickenMartix: still no link to download it.  it's says zero days on ubuntu.com11:18
Crozarflick: you need a program called winE and any program u want in ubuntu is free so yes u can get winE from add/remove you need internet connection tho11:18
flickAsh-Fox: wow11:18
macPhilbut i dont find it :)11:18
mobalso11:18
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Ash-Foxflick, for example, you could install microsoft office xp if you needed it. But microsoft office 2007 doesn't work yet.11:18
mobaldooglus: why?11:18
flickwow!11:18
willwill!th11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about th - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:18
mobalthe hungarian ubuntu page says it is real...11:18
Crozarflick: winE means windows Executer , it executes most windows programs and untill now its working for destiney11:18
dooglusmobal: I don't know11:18
MyrttiPLEASE, the mirrors are still synchronizing. If you find a link to a download site, please hold your horses and don't download any ISO images yet. Wait for the Official Announcment!11:19
livingdaylightLinuxJuggalo, kekekeke... muy bien amigo11:19
dooglus!wine11:19
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.11:19
mobalso11:19
Ash-FoxWine actually stands for: Wine Is Not a Emulator11:19
dooglusCrozar: The name 'Wine' derives from the recursive acronym Wine Is Not an Emulator.11:19
murkyMurkaglet: been reading that bug....seems there is a maybe work around involving editing a gtk rc. I'll give it a go. Thanks for the pointer.11:19
akrillMyrtti: what about torrents? torrents dont overload mirrors ;-)11:20
derrick81787what about this? is this the RC? http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/11:20
Crozaryes its not an emulator but similar like emulator but better job :D i say a nextgeneration work on combining wifes on both operating systems11:20
Myrttiakrill: just as long as you check md5 checksums after the official release11:20
AleseteWINE = WINE Is Not  Emulator11:20
slash|crisisnoooooo need new batteries for wireless mouse! not _now_!11:20
Crozarderrick81787: yes dont get it11:20
Ash-Foxderrick81787, ubuntu 7.10 has not been released yet, read the topic.11:20
Myrttiplease, do NOT spread any URL's to ANY download sites yet11:21
Crozarderrick81787: 4 - 8 hours patience weneed11:21
MyrttiThank you for your patience!11:21
derrick81787ok, sorry11:21
extrakickthats exactly why i stopped using wireless mouse11:21
extrakickhahha11:21
extrakickpain int eh backside at times11:21
dooglusMyrtti: is http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ a secret URL?11:21
Amaranthdooglus: Stop that11:21
agletmurkyMurk: I stopped reading before I got down to that bit.  I miss X resources11:21
CrozarWINE = Executes Windows program thru ubuntu but not emulating it11:21
derrick81787i think that's what they use for every release, except the number is different of course11:21
Crozarif your looking for a good fast less memory hog emulator !virtualbox11:21
Amaranthdooglus: Everyone knows you can get it now but if they haven't announced the release yet there is obviously work left to do11:22
Crozar!virtualbox11:22
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox11:22
arcad3anyone working at canoanical here?11:22
megabytesxsp.pt 6123411:22
chuactis there OSX docker11:22
ChrisKenyonarcad3: How can I help11:22
Amarantharcad3: Why?11:22
akrillThe only "work left to do" is get the torrents seeded and make sure all mirrors are synced. if there were release work to do it would not have been released to mirrors yet11:22
akrilllol11:22
tingleexitement in #ubuntu-release-channel MUST SEE! XD http://pastebin.com/fe0704c411:22
arcad3ubuntu.ro Community its outdated can someone do something11:22
arcad3about it?11:22
tonyyarussoakrill: they update the images incrementally.11:23
Amaranthakrill: And that's the part you disrupt by downloading it now11:23
Myrttitonyyarusso, Amaranth <311:23
Ash-Foxarcad3, what is outated about it?11:23
arcad3visit the page ...11:23
arcad3its stuck at 6.10 release11:23
dooglus!info synfig gutsy11:23
zrk#unbuntu.cn11:23
ubotusynfig: vector-based 2D animation package. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.61.06-2 (gutsy), package size 64 kB, installed size 172 kB11:24
mobalhej11:24
mobalubuntu 7.10 is released now...11:24
felix^^hi, quick question, is there a way to disable the embedded evince in firefox? ( running current gutsy)11:24
dooglus!info synfig feisty11:24
afiefdooglus, nice to see you here as well:)11:24
mobalso this url is not fake!11:24
mobalhttp://ubuntu.elasztik.hu/7.10/11:24
dooglushi afief :)11:24
ubotusynfig: vector-based 2D animation package. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.61.05-8 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 148 kB11:24
afiefdooglus, so they didn't upgrade synfig for feisty?11:24
akrilllol11:24
Myrttiplease, do NOT spread any URL's to ANY download sites yet11:25
zrkunbuntu.org.cn11:25
MyrttiThank you for your patience!11:25
dooglusafief: looks like feisty has .05 and gutsy has .0611:25
ChrisKenyontingle: that is very cool11:25
afiefdooglus, current is 0.7 though, isn't it?11:25
Ayabaraanyone running Ubuntu on a Santa Rosa MacBook Pro?11:25
dooglusafief: yes, but .06 is still a big improvement on .0511:25
akrillAyabara: Santa Rosa... is that CD or C2D? lol11:25
jscinozIs there a way to tell gpg to allow perhaps 1 minute after entering passphrase to not ask again? I'm uploading a bunch of sources to my PPA, and it asks twice (once for dsc once for changes) just a minor annoyance.11:25
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KeithWeissharis october 18 the release date for ubuntu11:26
jscinozyesh11:26
jscinozshould be out in the next 24hrs11:26
jscinozsee topic11:26
tingleChrisKenyon: yeah i know should i mail it to planet.ubuntu.com or something like that?11:26
MyrttiKeithWeisshar: yes, and it's not out yet.11:26
arcad3so something can be done for ubuntu.ro?11:26
flick2well it seems it is released... already11:26
rmajwhere to get ubuntu live cd (pc) that allows skype usage easly?11:26
therethinkerwell, its in some mirrors11:26
slash|crisishttp://digg.com/linux_unix/DON_T_download_Ubuntu_Gutsy_yet11:27
robits not, still updating. Check  md5hashes11:27
tonyyarussotherethinker: note guaranteed to be final - images get incremental updates through rsync11:27
LSEFTHi! I'm trying to setup a 2 computer network. Got a laptop connected to a desktop's eth0 and bridge it to the desktops eth1 which is connected to the internet. I use firestarter and prefer to use dhcp. I haven't had success assigning static ip addresses either.11:27
Amarantharcad3: I don't think Canonical runs that site11:27
therethinkerYeah -- thats what I was going to say11:27
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arcad3ahh11:27
Ash-Foxrmaj, you need to add this repository: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free11:27
Ash-Foxrmaj, then you can easilly install skype through a package manager.11:27
rmajAsh-Fox: can a noob do it on livecd? how exacly?11:27
murkyMurkaglet: just done that edit in the human theme gtkrc...works a treat. Thanks again11:27
Ayabaraakrill: c2d11:28
MeniskMy ISP hosts ubuntu on their mirror, how am I going to know if it is the final or beta?11:28
gvsa123if my webcam isn't listed in the community docs and cannot be detected by easycam, does that mean there's absolutely no way it will work with ubuntu?11:28
ChrisKenyontingle: I cleaned it a lttle more http://pastebin.com/m75948b0211:28
agletmurkyMurk: no problem, maybe you could find somewhere appropriate on the Wiki for it11:28
dooglusMenisk: the beta has 'beta' in the filename?11:28
Ash-Foxrmaj, I guess so. Although I can only give you instructions for the kubuntu live cd since I don't have a gnome setup to guide you.11:28
flick2ahh i see downloading from those mirrors might slow down the full release process11:28
dooglusgvsa123: no11:28
derrick81787Menisk: the recurring theme seems to be to what for the official announcement11:28
jscinozgvsa123, no it may still work, mine wasnt listed but worked when compiling V4L2 from source11:28
murkyMurkaglet: good call11:28
KeithWeissharwhat time zone is the website in11:28
Myrttidooglus, Menisk: the filename doesn't tell the whole truth11:28
Meniskdooglus: Okay It seems my ISP has final them11:28
Meniskthen*11:28
flick2i guess in that case i will wait a couple of more hours11:29
linuxfiendgvsal123, have you tried camtools?11:29
rmajAsh-Fox: where can I download kubuntu live cd11:29
alainlols.. my box crash.. nyahahah i dont know wat went wrong i just installed the MACOSX theme.. then everything gone11:29
alainlols11:29
linuxfiendthink that ios what it was called11:29
zrk#ubuntu-cn11:29
Myrttiplease, do NOT spread any URL's to ANY download sites yet11:29
MyrttiThank you for your patience!11:29
dooglusMyrtti: all the beta releases have 'beta' in their name though, right?11:29
derrick81787there are also release candidates11:29
derrick81787or at least one11:29
Myrttidooglus: yes, but I guess you've been explained the current situation with rsyncking the mirrors11:29
gvsa123jscinoz: video4linux? i think i have that installed from one of the video editing software11:29
Ash-Foxrmaj, might be best to just ask someone else for information on how todo within ubuntu that changing setup all together. I gave you the repository information.11:29
mukiexIs there a way to make apt-get completely ignore the filesize of the packages it's downloading?11:29
abhiberaWaltzingAlong: dude recover doesn't work on ext3 it clearly says that11:29
dooglusMyrtti: no, I've not.11:29
shmoolikipod its out!!!11:30
shmoolikipodwe heee11:30
mukiexI don't wanna force -y because I don't know if it's going to remove packages i need.11:30
Myrttishmoolikipod: no it's not11:30
shmoolikipodhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/11:30
jscinozgvsa123, if your webcam isnt working you may want to try building from svn11:30
shmoolikipodhere you r11:30
linuxfiendmaybe it was camstream11:30
shmoolikipod:D11:30
WaltzingAlongabhibera: ok. any ext3 fs can be mounted as ext211:30
jscinozor bzr or whatever it uses11:30
Myrttiplease, do NOT spread any URL's to ANY download sites yet11:30
flick2Ash-Fox: may i ask one question if you're not busy? (this is flick with windows xp)11:30
MyrttiThank you for your patience!11:30
abhiberaWaltzingAlong: how??11:30
Ash-FoxThat download URL is not the release of gutsy.11:30
gvsa123jscinoz: svn? bzr?11:30
shmoolikipodMyrtti sorry11:30
Ash-FoxGutsy has not been released yet.11:30
shmoolikipodbut it is out!11:30
jscinozsubversion/bazzar two common version control repository systems11:31
Ash-Foxshmoolikipod, topic says it isn't.11:31
shmoolikipodcheck ubuntu site11:31
therethinkerhttp://digg.com/linux_unix/DON_T_download_Ubuntu_Gutsy_yet11:31
MeniskMyrtti, what's the deal with resyncing the servers?11:31
therethinker^^shmoolikipod11:31
flick2i guess i'll ask later when the file is ready to download :)11:31
WaltzingAlongabhibera: but according to one of the developers of ext3 deleted files cannot be recovered (look http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html )11:31
shmoolikipodubuntu site says a diffent thingy11:31
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Ash-Foxshmoolikipod, the site, http://www.ubuntu.com/ says it's coming soon, it's not out.11:31
loqusisteahh the argument continues11:32
shmoolikipodchech the release link11:32
alainguys dont rush.. it will be out later11:32
loompeki wonder... guys.. does anyone of you happen to know if/when will be the adobe flash vor x86_64 released?11:32
loompeks/vor/for/11:32
shmoolikipodi m dl it now11:32
jscinozman i really hope my build for my ppa works this time11:32
Myrttishmoolikipod: it's not official until we say it's official11:32
* A[D]minS is away: bageeb 7aga akolha11:32
Ash-Foxshmoolikipod, that link contains a possible iso, we do not know for certain if that is te final iso, last minute changes can happen.11:32
tonyyarussoThis will just take a moment - I just want to clarify for folks the process going on with the mirror syncing.11:33
tonyyarussoAn initial disk image was sent out to mirrors yesterday, so that the most bandwidth-instensive part is already finished, having been able to run overnight and such.11:33
tonyyarussoHowever, since rsync can do incremental changes, it is used to make minor changes to those images even after they have been pushed out.11:34
tonyyarussoThis means that while you may see ISOs on mirrors already, they are not guaranteed to be the final product yet until the release team tells us they're done pushing those incremental updates.11:34
tonyyarussoTo avoid people getting non-final stuff, please avoid downloading or posting links to mirrors until we get the word.  Thanks!11:35
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jscinoz<3 devs11:35
dooglustonyyarusso: even if they're not 'final product', the update manager will sort out any updates later won't it?11:35
generalsnusthere are so many ppl downloading torrent and iso from server now..its insane...   why dont they remove the torrent etc..until its done?11:35
arcad3i want to be .iso mirror for my LAN just like this one http://ftp.astral.ro/mirrors/ubuntu.com/releases/11:35
Menisktonyyarusso: My ISP isn't on the official server release, yet they seem to have a "final" iso, does this mean they are being resynced too? Or am I going to have to download from a different mirror?11:36
ZaschHello. How do I get gtkpod to recognise my 3G ipod nano?11:36
tonyyarussodooglus: Probably, but if something changes in the installer or some such who knows.  Basically, it's an "anything goes" situation, and everything's at your own risk.11:36
therethinkerTheres so many ubuntu stories on digg11:36
tonyyarussoMenisk: yep - they all use the same process, others just may have priority11:36
therethinkeri'm trying to bury them all...11:36
akrilllol11:36
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janosch:f11:36
MyrttiFor more related questions about the upcoming Gutsy release, please join #ubuntu-release-party11:37
Menisktonyyarusso: Do you know if Internode are being resynced? Or not sure of the server list?11:37
robdon't worry, added to kline script :)11:37
akrillMyrtti: i'd love to, but see you banned me.11:37
eighty4mornin'11:37
Myrttiakrill: I haven't banned anyone today11:37
tonyyarussoMenisk: no idea about individual mirrors11:37
tonyyarussorob: ty11:37
Myrttiakrill: I use only remove11:37
akrillMyrtti: ok, well someone did.11:37
Myrttiakrill: a-ha.11:37
arcad3i want to be .iso mirror for my LAN just like this one http://ftp.astral.ro/mirrors/ubuntu.com/releases/11:38
_agn_Myrtti: so what is it that i see on the official mirror ?11:38
akrillarcad3: stfu11:38
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askandAnyone in here knows if bugfixes for gutsy will still be released after the final release today? Or is only "securityfixes" welcome now?11:38
_agn_i can see iso in releases dir11:38
TIRC_ho problemi con  chillispot mi aiutate?11:38
Ademananyone know of an app to query S.M.A.R.T. other than smart-notify?  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring%2C_Analysis%2C_and_Reporting_Technology  smart)11:38
gryfie_how do i compile a second time the kernel with make--kpkg and a new versionname?11:38
mc44askand: wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates11:38
no0ticTIRC_, english only11:38
* Helvasca feels this is time to announce that Ubuntu is not for him anymore, and is going to go to Debian11:38
raddyHello Everybody11:38
DarthShrineHi raddy11:38
blackkatthow to get that fire plugin on compiz working?11:39
Myrtti_agn_: by downloading it now from there you're delaying the synchronizing of the rest of the mirrors11:39
* romana looks at Helvasca in shock11:39
Ash-FoxHelvasca, kay, bye bye.11:39
raddyWhat are system level changes/new things other than improved hardware compatibility?11:39
_agn_Myrtti: ok, so its out11:39
_agn_thanx11:39
askandmc44: thanks11:39
Myrtti_agn_: and delaying the official announcment11:39
mc44raddy: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta11:39
Ash-FoxWhile you may see ISOs on mirrors already, they are not guaranteed to be the final product yet until the release team determines they're done pushing those incremental updates. To avoid people getting non-final stuff, please avoid downloading or posting links to mirrors until we get the word.11:40
_agn_wow, what happened ?11:40
samson_ idk11:40
Ash-Fox_agn_, it's just not out yet.11:40
_agn_but on the official mirror11:41
raddymc44: there seems no new under the hood improvements other than latest packages11:41
_agn_not gonna download until there's an official announcement11:41
Ash-Fox_agn_, it's not out yet, it's being finalized.11:41
Tama00hey!11:41
_agn_ok11:41
Myrtti_agn_: it's not done until official announcment11:41
therethinkerhey :-)11:41
Fomeupdate-manager says it's ou11:41
Tama00just wanna know the command to check a file system?11:41
tonyyarussoPlease keep all release-related chatter in #ubuntu-release-party , and only do support talk in here.11:41
mc44raddy: then you didn't read the release details well11:41
_agn_Myrtti: ok, waiting for the announcement11:41
Tama00like checkdsk but on linux11:41
Ash-FoxTama00, fsck11:41
Tama00ok thanks11:41
Tama00:)11:42
RickSeymourCan you confirm that the torrent in releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ is the nightly build or the final release??11:42
arunanyone using gutsy yet?11:42
mc44RickSeymour: it's not the final release until it's announced11:42
Myrttiit's not final until official announcment11:42
blackkattyeah11:42
Alp`still burning it11:42
simplechatnoone, until its announced11:42
askandThere is a bug keeping me from using the terminal with compiz activated, that will propably not be fixed? Cause its not an "security vulnerability" and does not "make me lose my userdata"..11:42
Gun_Smokearun: Lots #ubuntu+111:43
blackkatthad the beta and have not yet seen any update is i guess i have the latest one11:43
HelvascaAll join #ubuntu-party11:43
RickSeymourbut err why was the dir cleaned out yesterday with the note "wait till tmrw" and now its full11:43
Myrttiit's not final until official announcment11:43
blackkattin swedish magasine idg.se it says that its released and there are also links11:43
Myrttiit's not final until official announcment, please join #ubuntu-release-party for more information.11:43
ivan_i'm using kubuntu on my laptop. on ubuntu, when i unplug the network cable, it automatically connects me to my works wireless network.. but when i'm running kde, its network manager tool doesn't do that for me... any luck on setting kubuntu up?11:45
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jscinozDoes the driver iwl4965 support draft N wireless? i'm sitting here connected to my N router but only getting 54mbits11:45
E_mEis there a appliation i can install that will boot my Windows XP partition inside linux?11:45
freakabcdhi all11:46
freakabcdcan someone help me setup my wacom intuos serial tablet?11:46
WorkingOnWiseI want to change the file system of my boot partition from ntfs to reiser4. I no longer use Windows, so there's nothing there. After I format it, do I ned to rerun grub setup? Originally this machine was a dual boot Ubuntu/Windows11:46
kalpicard_pwns_kirk, i agree11:46
attunixWhy hasn't Gutsy been released yet?11:46
Myrttiit's not final until official announcment, please join #ubuntu-release-party for more information.11:46
freakabcdthe thing is, my laptop only usb ports and no serial ports. so i bought a usb to serial cable11:46
ivan_can anybody help me out?11:47
SleftI'm having trouble setting up firestarter to let eth0 connect to my laptop and share internet it gets from eth0. Says eth0 not ready when I set eth0 to get ip from dhcp and says failed due to unknown error when I set eth0 to static ip11:47
attunixMyrtti: oh. ok :)11:47
attunix!question | ivan_11:47
ubotuivan_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:47
RickSeymourin Xchat can i filter out the "quits/joins/leaves"?11:47
ivan_i'm using kubuntu on my laptop. on ubuntu, when i unplug the network cable, it automatically connects me to my works wireless network.. but when i'm running kde, its network manager tool doesn't do that for me... any luck on setting kubuntu up?11:47
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picard_pwns_kirkI can't connect to #ubuntu-release-party, can anyone help me?11:47
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Myrttipicard_pwns_kirk: consult #ubuntu-ops, please11:48
Menisk\Any idea of how much longer? I have my finger hovering over the enter key11:48
ivan_=(11:48
zxguitari need help with my sound card, got ubuntu gutsy11:48
attunixpicard_pwns_kirk: type in /join #ubuntu-release party11:48
WaltzingAlongpicard_pwns_kirk: check the status window for any feedback11:48
attunixivan_: yes, we can help you out :P11:48
blackkattsome help here plz11:48
WorkingOnWiseI want to change the file system of my boot partition from ntfs to reiser4. I no longer use Windows, so there's nothing there. After I format it, do I ned to rerun grub setup? Originally this machine was a dual boot Ubuntu/Windows11:48
attunix!question | blackkatt11:48
ubotublackkatt: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:48
blackkatthow to get "fire" plugin on compiz to work=11:48
Myrtti/me waves her magic 8 ball and shows the result to Menisk11:48
therethinker /join #ubuntu-release-party11:49
zxguitari need help with my sound card, got ubuntu gutsy, here is the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41047/11:49
MeniskMyrtti: The 8 ball is unsure?11:49
attunixtherethinker: are you using GAIM / Pidgin?11:49
MyrttiMenisk: yep11:49
therethinkeryeah, sorry :P11:49
MeniskMyrtti: >_<11:49
therethinkerstupid spaces :P11:49
blackkattattunix, cleaverhead how to get it working?11:50
attunixtherethinker: it's ok. in the buddy window, go to file > join chat11:50
attunixblackkatt: how to get what working?11:50
attunixblackkatt: oh. :P11:50
therethinkerI'm not... but I know... joins easier than the join button in xchat :P11:50
arunDoes anyone here use Evolution?11:50
attunixblackkatt: #compiz or #ubuntu-effects11:50
blackkattok11:50
blackkattthnx11:50
WorkingOnWiseI want to change the file system of my boot partition from ntfs to reiser4. I no longer use Windows, so there's nothing there. After I format it, do I ned to rerun grub setup? Originally this machine was a dual boot Ubuntu/Windows11:50
attunixblackkatt: welcome11:50
WaltzingAlong!grub | WorkingOnWise11:51
ubotuWorkingOnWise: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:51
ivan_currently, all i have found is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/125767, but the workarround that is proposed just sucks11:51
arunDoes anyone here use Evolution?11:52
robyes11:52
zxguitari need help with my sound card, got ubuntu gutsy, here is the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41047/11:52
kst-hmm shouldnt the update-notifier moan that 7.10 is out? I'm already downloading gutsy cd image but I dont see an update notification anywhere..?11:53
Myrttikst-: it's not out yet11:53
BWGamesanyone here have any experience using ubuntu in general with the Dell XPS M1330?11:53
kst-or how am I supposed to update from feisty to gutsy?11:53
MyrttiMenisk: it's not final until official announcment, please join #ubuntu-release-party for more information.11:53
Myrttiäsh11:53
Myrttiit's not final until official announcment, please join #ubuntu-release-party for more information.11:53
robits not out, the isos you see are still having minor updates via rsync11:53
kst-how come i got plenty of mirrors hosting the 7.10 isos (and i'm not talking about the release candidate or beta)?11:53
jscinozheh good times, been arguing with my friend all day about windows vs Linux, and i mention the millions of windows viruses, he says it never effects him, he gets home tonight, virus trashed his pc and sent itself to his friends :P11:53
kst-hm ok11:53
krabadorubuntu staff .... very newbies.....11:54
bushwakkoaRARAARRRAAARRRGghh!! Weher es ittititt!!11:54
bushwakko:P11:54
bushwakkoI just had to11:54
KeithWeissharwhy is the shipping charge almost $10 to usa from shop.canonical.com11:54
espereguwhen will the update manager offer update to gutsy?11:54
Myrttiand I'm starting to lack my sense of humor rapidly11:55
WaltzingAlongbecause $10000 was just too much KeithWeisshar11:55
Myrtti/me waves her magic 8 ball and shows the result to esperegu11:55
* mc44 hugs Myrtti11:55
kst-rob so I shouldnt download the isos that are around on several ftp mirrors and torrent?11:55
Tama00i got lots and lots of block error things when i fsck and i wanna pipe the ocmmand yes to it to say yes to all the things11:55
KeithWeissharwill there be a dvd version of ubuntu11:55
robno. not yet11:55
Tama00cani do that?11:55
Ash-FoxKeithWeisshar, I think they're pressed in the UK11:55
Myrttikst-: no, you shouldn't11:55
kst-lame :(11:55
espereguMyrtti: which result?11:55
zxguitari need help with my sound card, got ubuntu gutsy, here is the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41047/11:55
maxbI'm curious about what the magic upgrading tool does over and above apt-get dist-upgrade, is there any doc, or must I read the code?11:55
mc44KeithWeisshar: there are dvds11:55
Menisk511:55
Menisk411:55
Menisk311:55
Menisk211:55
Menisk111:55
MeniskFAKE COUNTDOWN11:55
Klanticushi ppl. does anyone here got problems with NVidia based sound card in a 64bit system?11:55
Menisk:D11:55
Ash-Fox11:43 <Ash-Fox> Davy_Jones, okay, goodbye.11:55
Ash-Fox11:43 <kbrooks> Davy_Jones, WE DON'T CARE.11:55
Myrttiesperegu: you tell me, was it undecisive?11:56
kst-uh wat11:56
Ash-Foxcrap11:56
Ash-FoxStupid middle mouse button, ignore that -.-'11:56
KeithWeissharwhy are ubuntu cd's pressed instead of burned on cd-r11:56
Tama00how can i automatically say yes to all my file system errors in fsck?11:56
darylbTama00: add the -y flag11:56
paulm_/leave11:56
Ash-FoxTama00 fsck -y11:56
espereguMyrtti: I am not following you. I am just currious about the schedule for updating via the update manager... since the new version is out now but is not yet appearing in my updates.11:57
Myrttiesperegu: "we don't know"11:57
zxguitari need help with my sound card, got ubuntu gutsy, here is the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41047/11:57
Tama00thanks11:57
Ash-FoxWhile you may see ISOs on mirrors already, they are not guaranteed to be the final product yet until the release team determines they're done pushing incremental updates. To avoid people getting non-final stuff, please avoid downloading or posting links to mirrors until we get the word.11:57
KeithWeissharwhy are official cd's pressed, not burned like other vendors like on-disk.com11:57
kst-whats the purpose of the isos when they're not the final ones btw? :)11:57
JapsuKeithWeisshar: because canonical has money to spend on them ;)11:57
Myrttikst-: see what Ash-Fox just said11:57
espereguMyrtti: so there is no known policy for that?11:57
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Ash-FoxKeith, could be burned in the UK, not sure.11:57
kst-oh thx11:57
Myrttiesperegu: my guess is that the update comes available simultaneously with the release team announcing the isos are out11:58
caballerohi11:58
KeithWeissharwhy is there no countdown timer to release11:58
zxguitari need help with my sound card, got ubuntu gutsy, here is the problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41047/11:58
MyrttiKeithWeisshar: because we don't know the exact time in minutes and seconds11:59
espereguMyrtti: but I already downloaded the ISO.11:59
eighty4KeithWeisshar, there's no specific time. it'll be some time today, there's no more accurate info than that.11:59
sladenKeithWeisshar: when you do a million CDs, pressing is alot cheaper than burning11:59
Ash-Foxzxguitar, ubuntu gutsy isn't out yet.11:59
Myrttiesperegu: then when the final release announcment comes, check the MD5 checksums11:59
Myrttiesperegu: might be same, might not11:59
sladenAsh-Fox: they're done in the Netherlands11:59
Myrttiesperegu: that's why we're discouraging people from spreading the download urls12:00
zxguitarAsh-Fox: got the 7.10 rc12:00
Ash-Foxsladen, ah, I heard it was in the UK. Thanks for correcting me12:00
espereguMyrtti: that was called rc as far as I know.12:00
pwnt-gutsy released?12:00
pengoThe Ubuntu 4.10 CD is the only thing i can boot from on this machine12:00
Myrttipwnt-: no12:00
Ash-Foxzxguitar, the full release of gutsy will be out today. Think you could wait for it to be out and try it then?12:00
Myrttipwnt-: see #ubuntu-release-party12:00
espereguMyrtti: kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso            16-Oct-2007 23:28  697M  Desktop CD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download)12:00
KeithWeissharhow big will the dvd iso be12:00
espereguhmmm..12:00
esperegu16 Oct.12:00
Myrttiesperegu: please join #ubuntu-release-party if you can12:00
Ash-FoxWhile you may see ISOs on mirrors already, they are not guaranteed to be the final product yet until the release team determines they're done pushing incremental updates. To avoid people getting non-final stuff, please avoid downloading or posting links to mirrors until we get the word.12:01
Myrttior ^12:01
espereguMyrtti: done12:01
Myrttiesperegu: there it is explained12:01
eighty4KeithWeisshar, about 4.2gb.12:01
Brotbmahltime!12:01
emonkey-p1600 yay! :)12:01
KeithWeissharcan nero handle file size over 4gb12:03
MrBisterRegarding the mirror comment earlier, isn't the stuff posted here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ considered to be legit?12:03
SHUVOwhich ircd is using here12:03
edmonHeey is there any one how can helo me with my ATI driver?12:03
ZaschCan anyone tell me how to get my 3G iPod nano working with gtkpod? Rhythmbox seems to be rather buggy, but gtkpod doesn't even recognise that I have anything plugged in.12:03
Ash-FoxWhile you may see ISOs on mirrors already, they are not guaranteed to be the final product yet until the release team determines they're done pushing incremental updates. To avoid people getting non-final stuff, please avoid downloading or posting links to mirrors until we get the word.12:03
WaltzingAlong!ati | edmon12:03
ubotuedmon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:03
Myrttiit's not final until official announcment, please join #ubuntu-release-party for more information.12:03
WaltzingAlongwhat do you need edmon12:03
maduranga_helo?12:03
MyrttiMrBister: it's not final until official announcment, please join #ubuntu-release-party for more information.12:04
Mehi everyone.12:04
WyldUser63641Four2361912:04
* bleeter farts in rob's general direction12:04
Mewtf?12:05
* arctanx pokes bleeter 12:05
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WaltzingAlong!hi | me12:05
ubotume: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:05
Mehi12:05
Meare u a bot ubotu ?12:05
ooFeMoe9reAssalamualaikum ...12:05
KlanticusI'm losing my sound when I try to change the audio volume. May someone help me?12:06
Myrttithis is the support channel. If you have a question or comment about Gutsy Gibbon's release, please join #ubuntu-release-party12:06
Meme may not help you.12:06
edmonWaltzingAlong : I can't install the ati driver i tryed envy but don work and i tryed Restricted Manager and it work but not the ati driver the mesa driver...12:06
arcad3i want to be a mirror for my LAN i want it to look like this http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/12:06
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arcad3how ca i do that12:06
Four23619Four23620:  :D12:06
arcad3please no kick this time12:06
Four23619Four23620: not too late yet :D12:06
eighty4arcad3, wait until its released.12:06
arcad3Myrtti explain12:07
b33rHello, is 7.10 released?12:07
WaltzingAlong!envy | edmon12:07
Myrttib33r: no12:07
ubotuedmon: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!12:07
Myrttib33r: it's not final until official announcment, please join #ubuntu-release-party for more information.12:07
WaltzingAlongedmon: which device do you have? lspci12:07
Myrttiarcad3: please STOP spreading that link around12:07
arcad3i dont post gutsy miror i just gave an example of how i wanted to look12:07
Four23619Four23620: /join #ubuntu-release-party12:07
Myrttiarcad3: you've been told not to spread it around gazillion times12:08
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arcad3my .sio MIRROR for my network12:08
edmonWaltzingAlon :  ATI Readon 980012:08
Kopfgeldjaegerhi12:08
WaltzingAlongedmon: which release are you using? cat /etc/lsb-release12:09
WikzoHow much more battery life will I get with the new kernel update?12:09
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edmonWaltzingAlong : Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy12:09
dxdtWikzo: that is almost impossible to simply answer, too many factors12:10
WaltzingAlongedmon:12:10
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huXfluXdudeeeee!!!!!! i have no sound in gusty!!! what to do !!!!???12:10
Wikzodxdt: What are we talking about - in percent? :)12:10
WaltzingAlongedmon: and what happens with fglrx enabled?12:10
gladierwebsite has been updated :P12:10
KlanticusI'm losing my sound when I try to change the audio volume. It only get back with a reboot.  May someone help me (feisty 64)12:10
pwnt-hmm12:11
dxdtWikzo: I don't think anyone knows an exact percent.  It would depend on SOOO many things that saying a single percent without tons of details about the laptop would be hard I think.12:11
kst-should I uninstall anything before upgrading to gutsy?12:11
edmonWaltzingAlon : nothing i cant even use compiz it the mesa driver12:11
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Wikzodxdt: Ok, I hope for the best, 'cause I'm using my laptop in school :)12:11
umopwhere can i dl horny hedgehog?12:12
WaltzingAlongedmon: post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files to pastebin with fglrx enabled, then with ati enabled, and then with vesa enabled (if you were using that)12:12
dxdtWikzo: I think the biggest thing you'll notice is actually an increase in battery life if using gnome with the new mods they have made there.  Polling isn't as much so battery life will be better but again I can't say how much.  I think it will be more noticeable than the kernel change, though.12:12
Wikzodxdt: I am using GNOME. Which mod are you talking about? :)12:13
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pwnt-hi12:13
TimGroe[Gutsy]Seveas: sorry, I didn't know that I wasn't allowed to send the link -.-'12:14
TimGroe[Gutsy]like, three other people sent it too :S12:14
Pirate_Hunterwhat link?12:14
tech0007what link?12:14
Myrttiit's not final until official announcment, please join #ubuntu-release-party for more information.12:14
pwnt-hi12:14
dxdtWikzo: Not a mod, but modifications made to Gnome in Gutsy that weren't in Feisty12:14
pwnt-I can't join #ubuntu+112:15
Wikzodxdt: It is default when Gutsy is installed?12:15
pwnt-it keep saying12:15
pwnt- #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu Forwarding to another channel12:15
eighty4pwnt-, ask gutsy questions in here (see topic)12:15
mweijtshttp://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu71012:15
pwnt-eighty4: Okay but what does my msg means. Is it just me? or #ubuntu+1 got closed? I just like the channel :)12:16
edmonWaltzingAlonthis is with mesa # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)12:16
edmon#12:16
edmon# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using12:16
edmon# values from the debconf database.12:16
edmon#12:16
edmon# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.12:16
edmon# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)12:16
stdin!paste | edmon12:16
ubotuedmon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:16
edmon#12:16
edmon# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*12:16
XenThraLquestion, I'm running Tribe 5, is the update for me just going to be a few packages, or what? - last packages broke my kopete MSN12:16
eighty4yes, because gutsy is about to become the new distro and +1 will be hardy heron.12:17
MyrttiXenThraL: yes12:17
emonkey-pXenThraL: the msn bug is well known12:17
XenThraLemonkey-p: been unable to find a x64 fix?12:17
emonkey-pXenThraL: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 more I don't know12:17
mnml mysql12:18
mnmlmt12:18
kst-when running update-manager -c i get a warning that the medibuntu repositories are no longer avail (error 302 or something).. whats up with that?12:18
emonkey-pXenThraL: maybe comment 23 is something for you12:18
kst-i'm running ubuntu feisty tho, not medibuntu12:18
K-4Uhi guys... when i installed another video-card, i also used another screen.. that screen could only handle a resolution of max 800x600. now i've got another screen, that COULD handle 1024x768. but it isn't in the list of selecting the resolution.. how can i still be able to use the large resolution?12:18
XenThraLyeah I was going to install that, then I saw that the other fix for 32 is 9mb12:19
KlanticusI'm losing the sound when I try to change the audio volume. It only get back with a reboot.  May someone help me (feisty 64)12:19
XenThraLthe fix for 64 is 70+12:19
wckdkl0wnwhats the difference in server and desktop editions?12:19
dns_56server does not have X (a gui)12:19
rskwckdkl0wn kinda obvious-..12:19
wckdkl0wndns_56, ty12:19
jkpso, is gutsy out yet? it should be out today but the webpage hasnt changed yet12:20
jkp(sorry if im the millionth person to ask)12:20
wckdkl0wnjkp, yes its in the mirrors on the site now12:20
dns_56neerly, there is #ubuntu-release-party12:20
wckdkl0wnjkp, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download12:20
jkpwckdkl0wn: is it safe to upgrade from a feisty system then?12:20
Myrttijkp: no it's not officially yet12:20
wckdkl0wnjkp, that i do not know12:21
K-4Uwhen i installed another video-card, i also used another screen.. that screen could only handle a resolution of max 800x600. now i've got another screen, that COULD handle 1024x768. but it isn't in the list of selecting the resolution.. how can i still be able to use the large resolution?12:21
CroXIs there a command to get a recursive overview of a part of the filesystem, with sizes of the directories and files?12:21
disinterestedwell after playing with gutsy for a lil while, it seems to use swap memory better than feisty12:21
wckdkl0wnmyrtion, then why does ubuntu have it on their site as a main download and not a beta12:21
Ash-FoxWhile you may see ISOs on mirrors already, they are not guaranteed to be the final product yet until the release team determines they're done pushing incremental updates. To avoid people getting non-final stuff, please avoid downloading or posting links to mirrors until we get the word.12:21
arcad3<wckdkl0wn> i was banned from #ubuntu-release-party for that Link12:21
dns_56it should be safe, the iso's are being distributed to the mirrors12:21
Myrttiwckdkl0wn: see what Ash-Fox said12:21
cpmummm, it's 'today' the download 7.10s all point to 7.04, whuts up with that?12:21
tonyyarussodns_56: ISOs are updated incrementally with rsync after an initial image is distributed.12:22
tonyyarussoNote that release talk belongs in #ubuntu-release-party12:22
dns_56well there have not been any updates to the packages in the last few days12:22
K-4Unobody who's gonna answer me?¬_\12:22
cpmtonyyarusso, thanx12:23
n00bertI need help upgrading to gutsy, I'm currently using breezy.12:23
Ash-FoxWhile you may see ISOs on mirrors already, they are not guaranteed to be the final product yet until the release team determines they're done pushing incremental updates. To avoid people getting non-final stuff, please avoid downloading or posting links to mirrors until we get the word.12:23
disinterestedcpm if u really want it that bad use update-manager -cd12:23
JavidGod, do you need to spam that HERE too?12:23
tonyyarusson00bert: You'll have to upgrade to dapper, then edgy, then feisty, then gusty.  Have fun.12:23
arcad3<K-4U> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and at hte resolution tab press space to choose higher resolution12:23
n00berttonyyarusso: ...oops.12:23
Ash-FoxJavid, God needs to, yes. :(12:23
murlidhar_Javid, who is spamming?12:23
oobeis the reason im getting gpg errors with cause of the gutsy release?12:23
niekietonyyarusso: O_O12:24
oobeis the reason im getting gpg errors with *apt cause of the gutsy release?12:24
K-4Uarcad3: thnx12:24
dxdtn00bert: just restart with Gutsy, it will be easier than upgrading to it. :(  You've waited too long unfortunately12:24
tonyyarussooobe: possibly12:24
HelvascaWhats that latest?12:24
AnAntHello, what is equivalent to setfont in console-tools package ?12:24
sSiroSoriSshow do i get vista to work with ubuntu12:24
dns_56K-4U: there are a few options you need to manually edit your xorg conf file, you can set a virtual display size bigger than physical, it can pan with the mouse when you go to a part bigger than what you see12:24
sSiroSoriSsoh ic, I need time.12:25
KlanticusI'm losing my sound when I try to change the audio volume. It only get back with a reboot.  May someone help me plz? (feisty 64)12:25
opensourceje2Alloha people, which font is used in the ubuntu-server-guide?12:25
flickis ubuntu 7.10 ready for download yet?12:25
GMcherry12:25
dns_56yes12:25
flickthanks i did not want to mess up the mirror uploads that's why i asked12:25
opensourceje2cause i am translating the ubuntu-server-guide and i wanna use the same font12:26
dpmlflick: 7.10 beta is available - the final is later this month12:26
dns_56released ~1 minute ago12:26
flickok12:26
freireagjust released12:26
murlidhar_Klanticus: why don't u wait for sometime before gutsy 64bit comes out :-)12:26
flickshould i download the beta or the previous version? i'm planning to setup a dual boot with my xp12:26
stdinit's still not out yet12:26
nightswimit is12:26
stdinno, it's not12:26
gvsa123jscinoz: hey i got my webcam to work already....12:26
nightswimat least the page changed nvm12:26
loqusistehey guys whats the channel dedicated to gustsy release?12:26
tsploqusiste: type /t12:27
atamuradany ways to view EXIF data in JPEGs?12:27
stdinnightswim: it's getting ready to be releases, but not quite yet12:27
ver1982is it out now? it seems so on ubuntu.com12:27
nightswimyes it is12:27
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dns_56 #ubuntu-release-party or ubuntu+112:27
nightswimlook at the website12:27
ver1982yahoo12:27
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jotilit seems from the website12:27
ver1982its really officially out12:27
eighty4there will be an announcement in #ubuntu-release-party when its done12:27
stdinnightswim: like I said it's getting ready to be released12:27
databuddygoddammit i want back in +1 ~_~12:27
murlidhar_!party12:27
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KlanticusMurchadh, it's already out, but I'll not have time to download and install it for some weeks12:27
nightswimI read what you said12:27
Picidatabuddy: +1 forwards here.12:28
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nightswimnow it's your turn to read stdin12:28
KlanticusMurchadh, and I don't know if it will fix this problem12:28
atlfalcons866will ext3 slow down as more files are added like ntfs12:28
mikubuntujoejaxx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41052/12:28
stdinnightswim: use the images if you want a broken system, I don't care12:28
jaredWhy hasn't ubuntu tried to update to the latest version?12:28
nvoorbergw00t12:28
murlidhar_:) me waiting for the release :)12:29
nvoorberggutsy has been released a minute ago12:29
databuddyPici i know i was in it and compy freezed12:29
Arenlorgutsy IS out now12:29
nvoorbergyes12:29
JohnRobertsigh, the topic really ought to be updated in the party chan12:29
nvoorbergim downloading it now12:29
jaredI did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade with no luck12:29
Ash-FoxGutsy is not out yet.12:29
nightswimstdin: sure, perhaps you should mail the maintainers of ubuntu.com that they're telling lies on their website12:29
databuddyalthough what the pont of hangingin a chan thats muted is....12:29
Ash-FoxThe website being changed is only preparation12:29
nvoorbergi was refreshing the website, and i got blank screen, on another refresh it was there12:29
databuddyi really dislike some of the ops ~_~12:29
JohnRobertI only say that here because it's +m on the party chan12:29
JavidGutsy's outness is nebulous at best.12:29
databuddyowell12:29
murlidhar_now where is my beer :)12:29
LivedTypemaybe we need like #ubuntu-release-party212:29
K-4Ucan i upgrade from Feisty Fawn to 7.10?12:29
flick2hey dpml, are you sure it's the beta which is out? since the site doesn't seem to mention it is a beta anywhere...12:29
Pici!party12:30
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databuddygutsy should be good enough i did my part time to ditch ubuntu12:30
Javid!lol12:30
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.12:30
fdrWell, Gutsy has been released so maybe it's time to update the topic. :-)12:30
assasukassehi everyone, i was upgrading to gutsy when my upgrade manager crashed, how can i finish the upgrade? update-manager -d doesn't show me anymore the gutsy release12:30
abhiberahello?12:30
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ichinoseju12:30
abhiberasomeone is not allowing me to send messages to ubuntu-release-party12:30
nvoorberghm gutsy channel is ubuntu+1?12:30
Myrttino, this is it12:31
Myrttiyou can get support for it here already12:31
Picinvoorberg: no, here.12:31
assasukassehow can i make the update-manager finish the broken upgrade?12:31
mkelhi, i've also encountered a problem when upgrading to gutsy.  In ubuntu-keyring...12:31
mkelSetting up ubuntu-keyring (2007.06.11) ...12:31
mkelgpg: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libreadline.so.5: undefined symbol: PC12:31
jaredI'm still befuzzled...I can't dist-upgrade.12:31
flick2Myrtti, pardon me, but is it okay to download gutsy now?12:31
omniusNeed help configuring DHCP-server, internet connection sharing (Firestarter)12:31
fyrestrtrassasukasse: sudo apt-get install -f12:31
murlidhar_From where did the seeders come if it was released about 3min back??? :)12:31
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assasukassefyrestrtr: ma non ha tolto un sacco di roba che doveva andare via..12:32
aliwhere can i get the DVD image?12:32
LiL-JoNmy usb harddrive isnt being found what can  do12:32
JohnRobertlol, the whole internet has come to a standstill12:32
assasukassetipo desktop-effects e cose varie12:32
Terrasquemurlidhar_: from the future12:32
WorkingOnWisei formated sda1 as reiser4, was ntfs. i cant mount it now. does the 2.6.22 kernel have reiser4 support?12:32
fyrestrtrassasukasse: I only speak English.12:32
abcde_Where is the torrent12:32
assasukassefyrestrtr: i did and it finish, but it didn't remove many packages that were needed to be removed12:32
flick2should i downlaod 64bit or 32bit of the OS?12:32
extrakicki see it offically out now wohooo12:32
nightswimnot if you ask stdin12:32
L0GANwooo12:32
shmoolikipodcheck ubuntu site !12:32
paradroidHi. If I already have Ubuntu running on my machine(s), does it make more sense to get the Desktop or the Alternate Install version for an "offline" upgrade? Is there a difference at all?12:32
commander-apehttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-October/000105.html12:32
dns_56for release info join @#ubuntu+112:32
L0GANso where? :P12:32
JC_Denton_should 7.10 appear in update-manager?12:33
Picidns_56: +1 forwards here.12:33
abcde_I can't find the torrent, I can only find the direct download12:33
nightswimJC_Denton_: it does12:33
paradroidabcde_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/12:33
airtonarantesWorkingOnWise, see changeLog this kernel release12:33
extrakickgoto ubuntu webpage for direct download12:33
tsptorrent.ubuntu.com:696912:33
madurangahow can i join the release party?12:33
assasukassefyrestrtr: how do i restart the script for cleaning up my system?12:33
JC_Denton_nightswim.. didn't earlier. will boot it up in a bit again12:33
extrakickis it only the 700meg cd version though12:33
murlidhar_http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent12:33
Ant1jris ubuntu studio gutsy out yet12:33
nightswimit shows up over here now12:33
extrakickisnt there a dvd version?12:33
Ikkibrhttp://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntu7mbpsxg0.png12:33
Ikkibr:)12:33
Pici!party > maduranga12:33
jburdCool12:34
mc44extrakick: yes there is12:34
tspI thought it was just released a minute or so ago? how can there be so many seeds?12:34
murlidhar_extrakick: dvd versions are not official12:34
jburdYup It is just released.12:34
PaulEUhello :)12:34
Ant1jrubuntu studio gutsy yet>12:34
tspthere are like 400 seeds12:34
* jburd began downloading already :-)12:34
dns_56paradroid: get alternative and do a dist-upgrade, it is the same as selecting the http sources12:34
maduranga!party12:34
PaulEUWhere can I find torrent?12:34
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nightswimtsp: the torrents (and isos) haven been available for some hours already12:34
weechat_useris this release the same as RC1?12:34
PaulEUto download12:34
maduranga! party12:34
nightswimtsp: but they werent official12:34
tspah12:34
weechat_userPaulEU: in the downloads section of the main site12:34
LiL-JoNmy usb harddrive isnt being found what can i do12:34
murlidhar_PaulEU: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent12:34
tspso now they are?12:34
PaulEUmurlidhar_: thx12:34
nightswimseems so, yes12:34
flick2is this the ubuntu release site? http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ ... it seems a bit sluggish12:34
Ant1jrPlz? Is Ubuntu Studio gutsy out yet?12:35
tspI'm new to ubuntu, hopefully orca will actually work12:35
PiciAnt1jr: ask in #ubuntustudio12:35
tckflick2, try and use torrents if you can12:35
tspthat's why I'm downloading it :)12:35
PaulEUweechat_user: I see only iso12:35
paradroiddns_56: Thank you. Would the Desktop version work as well since I could then use this to pass on to people for fresh (GUI) installs?12:35
ijsblokjemirror in amsterdam : http://ubuntu.apt-get.eu/releases/gutsy/12:35
abcde_Ant1jr, Go to the Ubuntu Studio site12:35
flick2tck: actually i was looking for torrents on that site...12:35
weechat_userflick2: the fact that it has just been released would have something to do with alot of people trying to get at it at the same time and slowing down the site12:35
* tsp idles again12:35
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murlidhar_PaulEU: The link i have given u is for 32bit pc and desktop pc12:35
tckflick2, coolio12:35
tckpass on the word :)12:35
flick2if anyone has a torrent could you please pass it on to me? thanks12:35
nvoorbergubuntu is gonna be big12:35
nvoorbergit's so populair right now12:36
nvoorbergso cool12:36
hermzhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-October/000105.html12:36
PaulEUmurlidhar_: yes, but maybe server is too busy?12:36
paradroidflick2: You can find Torrent files at the end of this page: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/12:36
whileimhereI was wondering how long is the suggested wait time to upgrade to Gutsy? I tried it 2 weeks ago and the laptops wireless died so I am of course hesitant since there seems to be no way to roll back the versions.12:36
dns_56paradroid: alternative contains the deb packages, the gui does not so it basically copies an image of the install12:36
ichinosesucks.....................12:36
dxdthttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors hasn't been updated.  Still says 7.04 at the bottom.  Though I'm sure that will be fixed up soon.12:36
flick2paradroid, the page is not opening12:36
paradroiddns_56: OK. Thank you!12:36
murlidhar_PaulEU: if u already have feisty installed then use alternate cd from http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/12:36
dhyoga/q12:36
kst-is it out or not? :(12:36
murlidhar_PaulEU: no they can handle those12:37
extrakickcheers murlinder12:37
nightswimkst-: it is12:37
frostburnhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ yes12:37
extrakickwill stick with standard verison then hahah12:37
flick2got it thanks12:37
pwnt-hey, its released :)12:37
PaulEUmurlidhar_: yes I have feisty installed, but I'd like install fresh12:37
kst-$12:37
kemeanMasterShrek: Can I ask you a question about awk?12:37
pwnt-how do i check if im on beta or final release? Is there anyway to check on that..12:37
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paradroidDoes anyone have any experience with Jigdo downloads?12:37
flick2should i install 64bit or 32bit? i am migrating from windows xp... but i have an AMD6412:37
Pici!final > pwnt- (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)12:37
frostburnflick, unless you have driver issues with specific hardware, amd6412:37
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nanonymehehe, ubuntu site just went down :)12:38
giany911are there any risks when doing a network upg? i had and used easy ubuntu, envy, restricted nvidia drivers... ?12:38
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LiL-JoNflick2: i have a AMD64 too but when i installed feisty it wouldnt let me install flash12:38
pwnt-Pici: done. i type that12:38
dns_56the site usually goes down for a few hours under the load12:38
frostburnLiL-JoN, flash installs in 64 now12:38
L0GANcongrats to all who made 7.10 possible12:38
flick2oh ok then i go for 32bit... it looks safer?12:38
doogluswhen the updater says it wants to remove 'obsolete packages', does that mean it has newer versions of them?12:38
frostburnflick2, not any more12:39
LiL-JoNfrostburn: so whats the advantage?12:39
giany911dooglus probably12:39
dooglusfor example, it wants to remove 'bluez-pin' - but I use that to sync with my phone12:39
flick2frostburn, will my 8600GTS work with 64bit?12:39
frostburnLiL-JoN, slightly faster, more memory mapping12:39
flick2ok12:39
frostburnflick2, yes12:39
flick2i think i will download the 64bit then thanks12:39
dns_56obsolite packages are sometimes there when something is renamed etc12:39
abcde_nanonyme, no... it's loading slow for me, but it's ok.12:39
murlidhar_Please do a favour . Those who wish to download please use torrents to reduce the load on ubuntu servers12:39
Picifrostburn: Adobe Flash does not install.  gnash does.12:39
nanonymeabcde_, for me it just shows a blank page12:39
paradroidgiany911: Since you have used non-supported system tools like Easy Ubuntu I'd be careful when doing the upgrade.12:39
murlidhar_Seeders are sufficient .12:39
Javidmurlidhar_, please make the torrents faster then ^^12:40
frostburnPici, flash-nonfree works as well12:40
giany911paradroid that's why i asked ... i know there were some issues ...12:40
PaulEUmurlidhar_: you are right, torrent rox ;)12:40
frostburnthrough a wrapper12:40
nanonymejavid, increase your upload rates? :)12:40
abcde_nanonyme, Might be an akami thing then, your local one could be down, mine is ok.12:40
murlidhar_Javid: seeder right now are more that 41512:40
nanonymeah12:40
flick2will all softwares work with 64 bit?12:40
sivakumerhello@everbody. have somebody the problem with his/her usb harddisk? that the new 7.10 do not recognize it ?12:40
Javida wget off a mirror is faster than the torrent for me now12:41
kst-anyone experiencing problems/error msgs with medibuntu repositories? should i disable them?12:41
frostburnflick2, no windows software will, but all software in ubuntu works for 6412:41
murlidhar_Please use torrent since there are a lot of Seeders12:41
Piciflick2: no, some proprietary software either won't work or wikk take a lot of manual tweaking.12:41
nanonymebtw, is ubuntu 64 multilib?12:41
paradroidgiany911: I would probably advise getting the image and doing an upgrade from there. This will not solve (potential) problems caused by Easy Ubuntu but you will have something to start with if the network upgrade fails.12:41
flick2ok thanks12:41
murlidhar_sivakumer: is ur external usb harddisk ntfs????12:41
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thedashwhy can't I get rsync to work correctly ?  every time I try to run it, it just copies all the files, no matter what is already on the remote location12:41
flick2is there a dvd version of the OS too? what is the difference between CD and DVD versions? more softwares?12:41
sivakumeryes, i think so its from my flatmate...12:42
yalu_ah crap ... still 20 of the 967 MB to download and now my apt-proxy refuses connections12:42
giany911paradroid i'm goind to hold off on upg. for a couple of days .. if i find problems after that i will do a clean install :)12:42
nanonymeparadroid, also upgrade servers might be cramped for a while so downloading the iso from torrents is probably muuuch faster than upgrading :)12:42
LivedTypeflick2: more packages on the DVD :)12:42
giany911going*12:42
kemeanCan awk use back-quote to run a shell command?12:42
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paradroidnanonyme: Absolutely. True.12:42
sivakumeryes, i think so its from my flatmate... murlidhar_12:42
murlidhar_sivakumer: go to applications>system toools>12:42
dns_56kemean i think so12:42
sivakumermurlidhar_  lets talk in a query12:43
paradroidgiany911: Waiting for the buzz to settle is probably a good idea anyway. ;)12:43
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Picikemean: ask in #bash or #awk if you arent sure12:43
doogluskemean: awk '{system("/bin/rm foo")}'12:43
LiL-JoNfrostburn: i have kubuntu installed so if i install fresh 64bit i can install flash and everything and i wont have any problems?12:43
Pici!away > KI4IKL|School (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)12:43
murlidhar_sivakumer: how to do that?12:43
ijsblokjehttp://ubuntu.apt-get.eu/releases/gutsy/ <= Mirror in Europe12:43
LiL-JoNfrostburn: since its stable i shouldnt have problems with anything right/12:43
kemeandns_56,but when I use backquote, awk report a syntax error.12:43
frostburnLiL-JoN, minimal problems, some might pop up.  not sure about kubuntu though12:43
murlidhar_sivakumer: what is query?12:44
doogluskemean: awk uses 'system()', not backquote12:44
sivakumerlook at your query murlidhar_  a privat chat12:44
flick2where can i get the dvd version, and a list of extra packages in it?12:44
kemeanPici,thanks!12:44
sivakumerlook at your left side12:44
JC_Denton_The update is not showing in my update manager...12:44
dns_56kemean: you need to escape the quote with \" or something, i can't remember12:44
pwnt-Pici: I went to update manager and clicked "Check" then after the downloading it didn't show up any upgrades or updates. I didn't have final gutsy yet im sure :(12:44
Gun_SmokeStill waiting on the Documentation to be updated.12:44
LiL-JoNfrostburn: if i run into any problems is there a way to fix them?12:44
gunashekarmurlidhar_: look behind you12:44
frostburnLiL-JoN, yep, come to this channel and ask =]12:44
kemeandooglus,thanks,this is a way,but, can't assign the output to a variable.12:44
giany911ubuntu has gone a long way ... :)12:45
paradroidJC_Denton_: Do a update-manager -c in a terminal12:45
pwnt-should i do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in terminal or "sudo update-manager -c -d"12:45
murlidhar_gunashekar: where?12:45
Picipwnt-: the second one12:45
murlidhar_sivakumer: send me a pm12:45
doogluskemean: awk can't write to shell variables.  nothing can apart from the shell12:45
pwnt-wats the different between these two commands for upgrading?12:45
JC_Denton_paradroid thanks.12:45
assasukasseis there a way i can restart update-manager that has crashed during gutsy installation so that he cleans up the packages that shouldn't be on my system?12:45
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jimmywwwhere do i download xubuntu, can u post a link12:46
sivakumerargs, i have to register myself.12:46
sivakumerun momento12:46
kemeanI'll try,thank you~!12:46
aribusanI installed Ubuntu 7.04 a month ago (waiting for gutsy ...), but there is no miRC like irc client included, what do you suggest ??? I am now using x-chat ...12:46
kst-The upgrade aborts now. The upgrade needs a total of 1508M free space on disk '/'. Please free at least an additional 8675k of disk space on '/'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.12:46
kst-hat can i do?12:46
dns_56pwnt- not sure exactly, i believe both are just wrappers to dpkg which is the tool that actually does the package management, i have used apt as well as aptitude to dist-upgrade12:47
Ali_ix:d12:47
murlidharsivakumer: looks like u have to register urself12:47
kst-aribusan try xchat and not xchat-gnome in case you#re using the default irc client from ubuntu12:47
jimmywwwhere is xubuntu 7.1012:47
JC_Denton_no more support for xmms?12:47
Piciaribusan: xchat is the most mirc-like client12:47
Ali_ixwhere can i get 7.10 dvd image?12:47
Ali_ixis it available now?12:47
WaltzingAlongAli_ix: grab the torrent from releases.ubuntu.com12:47
Ali_ixWaltzingAlong: thanx12:48
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LiL-JoNfrostburn: sorry for the questions but i hate X not booting after install so will i have to install gutsy in safe graphics mode anymore12:48
GeertJanAnyone else having trouble with the Gutsy LiveCD? I booted it twice now, first time I got no video for 10 seconds, then I got video but with an error message about GNOME settings deamon or something... second boot it messed up my videocard or something, I only saw garbage on screen :S12:48
aribusankst, Pici, thx ... i12:48
Ali_ixWaltzingAlong: sorry, but there is no dvd image here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/12:48
LiL-JoNfrostburn: i have a ATI 9550 (fglrx) card12:48
frostburnLiL-JoN, not sure, it's never happened to me12:48
dns_56check your md5 hash of your iso image12:48
nanonymehmm, any ideas when and where to get ppc version of gutsy?12:48
SIMOIIhello12:49
GeertJanmy livecd hash was correct btw, also the integrity check, i'm on a geforce 712:49
sivakumerhi12:49
* yalu_ dist-upgrading!! (finally)12:49
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tr1pp3rati xpress 200M driver ?12:49
pwnt-there is no "New distribution release" for me in my updater. whats up :(12:49
SIMOIIwat up home dawgs12:49
mEck0I want to try Compiz a bit, but when I try to enable visual effects, I got a message that it can't be enabled :( so what should I do? have intel gma x3100 gfx-card.12:49
Ali_ixpwnt-: do you have ubuntu-desktop package installed?12:49
kst-will ubuntu use the 1500mb free disk space you need to update after it has updated? or will they be freed again?12:49
murlidharsivakumer: did u register urself12:49
pwnt-Ali_ix: yep12:49
anon9999Gah! I can't upgrade?! I'm on RC1 and theres nothing happening in Update manager12:50
kst-mEck0 ask in #compiz-fusion maybe :)12:50
dns_56kst- after upgradeing run apt-get clean12:50
mEck0kst, thx for the help12:50
pwnt-Ali_ix: i had fiesty for ages, and recently got to upgrade to gutsy beta. now that final is released I can't see it. or my managers doesn't download it.12:50
Ali_ixpwnt-: type in Alt+f2 gksudo 'update-manager -c -d'12:50
sivakumernope, had postet at the pm. i try it in the both time.12:50
pwnt-Ali_ix: already done that12:50
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murlidharsivakumer: lets do it here itself12:50
akrillnight all12:51
jimmywwis xubuntu out yet?12:51
generalsnusGuys.. whats inside the dvd , besides the alt installer?  extra packages?  what is it filled with?12:51
murlidharsivakumer: open applications>system tools>ntfs-config12:51
Ali_ixpwnt-: i have the same issue, i was removed ubuntu-desktop package before, i reinstalled it and got gutsy as new release12:51
gunashekaror /join #ubuntu-in12:51
Pici!final > anon9999 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)12:51
tckuse torrents peeps http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent12:51
livingdaylightis aptitude distro-uggrade the way to go?12:51
Belutzjimmyww, i think so, cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu12:51
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Sergohello12:51
pwnt-Ali_ix: when did you do that? Gutsy is released like 5mins ago12:51
sivakumeri will look at this.. wait..12:51
pwnt-officially12:52
jimmywwbelutz, thanks12:52
XenThraLgeneralsnus: I'm curious as well, no one seems to give a definite answer12:52
Ali_ixpwnt-: 2 weeks ago, i am a beta tester :d12:52
Sergois ubuntu 7.04 still suported?12:52
cyberixCan I somehow disable the pop-up that appears when I use alt+tab in gutsy?12:52
Sergo=)12:52
JohnRoberthmm12:52
pwnt-I was in beta for months now too. but now you need to get the officialy final release. its just out 5mins ago12:52
kst-how big is the update from feisty to gutsy in MB?12:52
JohnRobertI just deleted a 7GB file, but df -h shows no difference :/12:52
sivakumerdo you have kde? <murlidhar>12:52
cassioSergo: i thing it is12:53
dooglusewww, I don't like the look of this much.  the display driver seems to be messed up even worse than in feisty12:53
cassiothink*12:53
dooglusXgl server setup changed12:53
scrumpyGumskst: 1048M I think12:53
dooglusThe Xgl server will now be started automatically next time you login.  It is no longer necessary to use any special X session to start Xgl, and such sessions will likely fail to work properly.  Please select a regular session from your session manager next time you log in.  To disable Xgl autostart for this user, create a file named ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable12:53
murlidharnope gnome sivakumer12:53
sivakumerits the same like system setting @<murlidhar> ?12:53
murlidharsivakumer: are u in using kubuntu?12:53
dns_56Sergo: ubuntu releases have 18 months of support more for LTS releases12:53
sivakumerk, will look at something what you can compare with it.12:53
sivakumeryes12:53
WaltzingAlong!lts12:54
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.12:54
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kst-where do I set the disk space ubuntu reserves to make sure you can login at all times? I got 1.7gig free but only 1.5gig "available" and now the update wont work coz it's a tiny bit more than 1.5gig...12:54
Ali_ixWaltzingAlong: i found dvd images/torrent here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/12:54
murlidharsivakumer: see if there is any applications menu12:54
WaltzingAlongcongrats Ali_ix12:55
Sergowhen i rebooted the system, The X.org couldn't start, and the bash says that the file-system is read-only ...12:55
dns_56kst-: you could try and upgrade in parts if you know your package manager, ie install openoffice first12:55
whileimhereHow do you install a new cursor theme?12:55
seu_barrigawhileimhere, art.gnome.org (i think)12:55
doogluskst-: tune2fs -m12:56
dns_56whileimhere: apperance preferences12:56
seu_barrigadownload some themes then go to system preferences, themes12:56
sivakumer<murlidhar> do you mean where i can install all the packets ?12:56
seu_barrigaor apt-get install gnome-art ^^12:56
murlidharsivakumer: which packets are u talking about12:56
Sergowhat to do in this case12:56
Sergofsck ?12:57
scrumpyGumsHow long does installing gutsy take when you've finished d/ing?12:57
murlidharok sivakumer join #sivakumer12:57
minikromixgo digg http://digg.com/news/technology/upcoming:)12:57
Ximal!ot12:57
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:57
flick2where can i download the torrent again?12:57
sivakumer<murlidhar> im in12:57
Pici!torrents | flick212:57
ubotuflick2: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)12:57
flick2thanks12:58
Javid!gutsy12:58
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due some time October 18th, 2007) | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information12:58
murlidharsivakumer: can't see u12:58
flick2!dvd12:58
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs12:58
murlidharsivakumer: join #sivakumer just click on the link12:58
flick2what's extra in the Live DVD?12:59
san|weird.. pidgin can't connect to #ubuntu+112:59
GeertJanHmm, I just read that the video problems I have when I boot up the LiveCD could be related to ACPI... anyone know anything about this?12:59
zethero1is everyone using Gutsy ?12:59
zethero1sweet as12:59
assasukasseis there anyone that had problems upgrading?12:59
vbabiyis there a torrent for 7.1012:59
gordonjcphm12:59
dns_56ubuntu+1 currently points to this channel12:59
WaltzingAlongbut i want to learn about 8.04!12:59
sivakumeryes im, i think its trouble with the register. sorry, will register now on this irc system.12:59
flick2!torrent|vbabiy13:00
ubotuvbabiy: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html13:00
zethero1the only thing that did not work for me is Kopete13:00
flick2!torrents|vbabiy13:00
ubotuvbabiy: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)13:00
san|yeah.. gutsy is nice...13:00
murlidharsivakumer: u don't have to register to join a channel13:00
seu_barrigawell, my azureus did not work on gutsy13:00
shenronFailed to fetch http://repository.debuntu.org/dists/feisty/Release Unable to find expected entry  multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)13:00
zethero1can someone help me with the screen extension feature?13:00
shenronanyone know what that could be from?13:00
doogluswhat's the command to run a window manager in gutsy?  none of my windows have any 'edges'13:00
WaltzingAlongseu_barriga: which azureus did you install?13:00
gnyffelHow do you update the release candidate to the full install?13:01
san|doogers: metacity --replace &13:01
nanonymehey, should i download the latest daily build and update to latest if i'm using ppc?13:01
sivakumerwell, try it again. at the first time i receive a weird msg ;)13:01
murlidhargnyffel: just use jigdo13:01
shenronI cant update to gutsy because of that error13:01
san|ehm dooglus: metacity --replace &13:01
WaltzingAlonggnyffel: you have it already. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -y safe-upgrade13:01
dooglussan|: thanks13:01
mc44!final | gnyffel13:01
ubotugnyffel: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.13:01
omniusNeed help configuring DHCP-server, internet connection sharing (Firestarter)13:01
dns_56gnyffel: not sure, check the sources and make sure they are pointing to the normal mirrors, and apt-get dist-upgrade13:01
seu_barrigadunno... just installed with apt13:01
gnyffelOhoo, thanks13:01
[chr0n0s]test13:02
L0GANYAY ubuntu downloaded13:02
[chr0n0s]hey, is this the final version of ubuntu?13:02
[chr0n0s]or they are gonna release OTHER final version ?13:02
simplechatyes13:02
skyrakerno , final version of gutsy13:02
simplechatout13:02
simplechat*it is out13:02
tattersis gutsy only released as dvd only theres no cd iso ?13:02
shenronwell13:02
shenroncan anybody help me?13:02
zethero1something is different with my Thunderbird client as well13:02
PaulEUtatters: only cd13:02
doogluswhat's the menu entry to turn on compiz?13:02
tattershttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/13:03
simplechatshenron: i'm pretty sure someone could help you, its just a question of if they are here and willing13:03
shenronwell13:03
shenronthat is lovely13:03
tatterstheres only dvd images there?13:03
dns_56dooglus: under the desktop apperance item13:03
seu_barrigadooglus, on gutsy??13:03
PaulEUtatters: only CD13:03
shenronmaybe its my sources.list13:03
Ali_ixtatters: check this mirorr list: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/13:03
dooglusseu_barriga: yes13:03
skyrakercups r.i.p :)13:03
omniusNeed help configuring DHCP-server, internet connection sharing (Firestarter)13:03
shenronmy friend gave me his sources.list and it is all messed up :/13:03
mc44tatters: no, it's on CD13:03
Ali_ixPaulEU: both cd and dvd is available13:04
anon9999dooglus: System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects13:04
mc44tatters: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download13:04
simplechatshenron: did you back your normal one up?13:04
Ali_ixtatters: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors13:04
anon9999dooglus: Then click whichever one you want13:04
murlidharhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/13:04
dooglusanon9999: thanks.  I wish they wouldn't keep moving things!13:04
seu_barrigadooglus you wanna start compiz automatically every time you turn your computer on??13:04
PaulEUAli_ix: dvd ? I don't know13:04
LiL-JoNdoes anybody know if my ATI Radeon 9550 will work with gutsy gibbon13:04
GeertJanoh well, guess i'll try the livecd once more... after that i'll try the alternate cd =\13:04
zethero1where are the window themes?13:04
WaltzingAlongsure it all works13:04
Ali_ixPaulEU: yes, check here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/13:04
shenronwell simplechat13:04
shenronI had it at one point13:04
shenronbut maybe it was overwritten13:05
shenronprobably it was13:05
dooglusseu_barriga: I want to see if it works first.  it didn't in feisty13:05
PaulEUAli_ix: thx13:05
seu_barrigaohh13:05
dooglusanon9999: I switched to 'normal' and my window manager died again.  I'm back to frameless windows13:05
Frogzoo!ati | LiL-JoN13:06
ubotuLiL-JoN: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:06
anon9999dooglus: how recent or old is your computer?13:06
dooglusanon9999: it's a year old13:06
FrogzooLiL-JoN: pretty sure for all radeon yes, check the docs for supported chipsets though13:06
dooglusanon9999: it ran compiz fine in debian13:06
LiL-JoNFrogzoo: where can i find the psecific doc?13:06
[chr0n0s]server is hogged!!!13:07
FrogzooLiL-JoN: see ubotu's link ^^13:07
anon9999dooglus: strange, there really should be no problem.. Do you see a Custom option in the window where you chose NOrmal?13:07
C-Ottothanks for the release, my mirror is pumping out 800 mbit/sec :)13:07
C-Ottohttp://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/stats/13:07
dooglusanon9999: no.  'none', 'normal', 'extra' - radio buttons13:07
Frogzoozomg they released on time :)13:07
dooglusanon9999: with 'help' and 'close'13:07
neopscyhecan someone please help me isntall a program13:07
KeithWeissharwhere is the dvd version of ubuntu13:07
neopscyhei need to install xnview13:08
Ximalif i were anyone i'd get ktorrent ;)13:08
FrogzooKeithWeisshar: somewhere here I'd guess http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent13:08
KamatsuI have a question about partitioning... I have a 10gb recovery partition, a 100gb windows partition right now. I can resize the windows partition okay and install linux, but I want to remove the recovery partition, move windows over to the beginning of the part. table, and then install linux after windows is resized.13:08
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neopscyhecan anyone help me install13:08
Ali_ixKeithWeisshar: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/13:08
tattersI been running gutsy since tribe3 ,would it be best to wipe drive and reinstall with final or should my build with all patches be no different?13:08
KamatsuCan gparted do that?13:08
skyrakerneopscyhe, no help on the website mate?13:08
neopscyheanyone how to compile a program for ubuntu?13:08
FrogzooKeithWeisshar: obviously munge the url for gutsy13:08
LiL-JoNFrogzoo: i was wondering in gutsy gibbon it wouldnt be restricted drivers any more13:08
neopscyheskyraker: no13:08
XenThraLtatters: I'm wondering the same13:08
FrogzooLiL-JoN: oh dunno13:08
neopscyhecan anyone help me compile xnview?13:08
murlidharneopscyhe: it depends usually ./configure then make and then sudo make install13:09
Ali_ixneopscyhe: instal build-essential package and do it!13:09
anon9999dooglus: see if this page can help: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/115713:09
skyrakerneopscyhe, I struggle with compiling myself13:09
neopscyheAli_ix: i dont know what you are referring to13:09
dns_56tatters: should be safe, i usually just change the http mirror myself and dist-upgrade who knows, worth a try anyway13:09
xbeanxWe have a local ubuntu mirror here on campus..  I'm wondering how I can do a network upgrade to 7.10 using that mirror instead of the slow default mirror update manager uses.13:09
dooglusanon9999: it looks like this: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/1192709310.png13:09
KamatsuDoes anyone know if gparted can move NTFS partitions?13:09
charmDoes anyone else have a really annoying problem with the apostrophe key on their keyboard. Since installing Feisty I can´t do apostrophe unless I hit the key twice (otherwise it does an accent).13:09
Ali_ixneopscyhe: do you ever used Synaptics or APT on ubuntu?13:09
neopscyheyes13:09
sivakumertest13:09
doogluscharm: sounds like you're in a foreign keyboard layout13:10
dns_56xbeanx: edit your sources.list or sources using the gui tool, it should be fine13:10
Frogzoocharm: sounds like you're using a 'dead keys' keyboard layout13:10
charmdooglus: itś us:intl13:10
doogluscharm: add the keyboard applet to the panel13:10
teKnofreakin gutsy, when i login i get an blank screen with the background.. no panel cant right click13:10
KeithWeissharwhat's on the dvd version that isn't on the cd version13:10
teKnofreakany clues ?13:10
tattersDoes dolphin still complain about permmison error in final?13:10
gordonjcpcharm: check the "dead keys" setting?13:10
Ali_ixneopscyhe: open synaptic, search for build-essential, check it for install and hit aply! after that, you may get less errors while compiling13:10
shenronalright13:10
shenronI made a new sources.lits13:10
shenronand it appears to be working13:10
KeithWeissharis there a list of known bugs or errata before downloading13:10
charmFrogzoo: yup, so is there a way to make it not dead keys? That was the default detected.13:10
anon9999dooglus: yeah follow the link I sent above, it'll tell you to install a prog that gives you more control over it13:10
Ali_ixneopscyhe: if you are new to linux, search for binary package of desired program, instead of compiling from source13:10
murlidharteKnofreak: probly u need a restart13:11
Frogzoocharm: you want US English layout, International (with dead keys) layout behaves as you see13:11
shenrono_O 5 hours 40 minutes13:11
teKnofreakmurlidhar, will try restarting13:11
neopscyheAli_ix: ali_ix see if you can install this program on your ubuntu system and let me know if you succeeded and how...  XNview13:11
malboro1helo13:11
malboro1!list13:11
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots13:11
charmThanks guys... got it!13:11
neopscyheAli_ix: not available in synaptic13:11
neopscyhexnview13:12
JohnRobertis it possible to upgrade from the ubuntu ISO?13:12
murlidharKeithWeisshar: no there is no list of known bugs before downloading13:12
JohnRobert(easily)13:12
xbeanxthanks dns_5613:12
CobrauKwhats the difference between the DVD iso and Desktop iso?13:12
murlidharJohnRobert: yes it is possible by using alternative cd13:12
dns_56JohnRobert: you need the alternative cd13:12
JohnRoberthmm13:12
dooglusanon9999: that page doesn't help at all - it's just saying 'we couldn't decide how much bling to include'.  shame they didn't get the basics right instead, like having it not crash :)13:12
JohnRobertwhat is there to it?13:13
murlidharJohnRobert: but i guess u have to burn the iso13:13
JohnRobert:/13:13
JohnRobertlol!13:13
Ali_ixneopscyhe: check this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7365113:13
JohnRobertclit13:13
JohnRobertan auzzie too13:13
JohnRobert:p13:13
anon9999dooglus: sorry it was the wrong link, this one is linked off it: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/10/2/Desktop-effects-by-default-in-Gutsy---how-Compiz-Fusion-enhances-Ubuntus-desktop-of-version-71013:13
spoownHello all !!13:13
anon9999dooglus: You can install a  "CompizConfig Settings Manager" in the Add/Remove Programs and that'll help13:14
dns_56you use apt-cdrom, not used it in years, i think if you boot from it it will also allow you to upgrade13:14
murlidhar!oops | JohnRobert13:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oops - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:14
murlidhargrr13:14
tatters30bps 15 days  remaining13:14
JohnRobert;p13:14
Ali_ixtatters: wow! :}13:14
scrumpyGumsWhat are the system requirements for compiz?13:14
spoowndoes anyone known if it is possible to get a connection between two computer that are inside two different private lan ? and I don't have any acces to set something up to the gateway of each private lan ! any idea ?13:14
Ali_ixscrumpyGums: direct rendering, well configured vga13:14
murlidharscrumpyGums: don't worry unless u have Pentium 3 and below13:15
scrumpyGumsok, thanks13:15
murlidhar:)13:15
JohnRobertah, it's ok13:15
JohnRobertit IS using my ISPs mirror13:15
JohnRobert:)13:15
JohnRobert900k/sec13:15
CobrauKwhats your isp13:15
JohnRobertno bandwidth quota in use! :)13:15
JohnRobertinternode13:15
CobrauKdamn13:16
JohnRobert(australian)13:16
dooglusanon9999: I don't want to adjust compiz - I just want it to let me move and resize my windows...13:16
LiL-JoNWill my ATI Radeon 9550 work on gutsy13:16
CobrauKvirgin medias mirror is terribly slow13:16
JohnRobertprobably isn't public13:16
dns_56i get 1900k a sec with adsl2+ from internode :)13:16
dooglusanon9999: the 'search' box in add/remove is off the top of the screen :(13:16
JohnRobertbah dns_5613:16
JohnRobert:p13:16
JohnRobertcan't get adsl2 here13:16
XenThraLtatters: anyone answered you??13:16
JohnRobert:/13:16
JohnRobertyou in sydney?13:16
dns_56adelaide13:16
neopscyheAli_ix: I have seen that.. I have been told that installing rpm to deb packages can be problematic. I want to compile from scratch.13:16
tattersXenThraL: nope13:16
neopscyhecan someone help me install XnView please13:17
XenThraLbleh I wonder if the final version shipped with the new kdelibs acting odd13:17
flick2!info pidgin13:17
neopscyheAli_ix: how do i compile it from scratch?13:17
XenThraLI was getting weird behavior in dolphin as well13:17
tattersXenThraL:  I decidecto fresh install anyways13:17
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas13:17
XenThraLsomething about kio slaves13:17
Ximalanyone have the name of an ftp server i can setup in ubuntu that has great security and options and a great gui ?13:17
Ximalplease ?13:17
neopscyhecan anyone help please install13:17
neopscyhexnview13:17
XenThraLI'd really rather not do it myself, but I don't want a buggy system :)13:17
neopscyhe!xnview13:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xnview - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:17
neopscyheI need to install xnview.13:17
neopscyheon ubuntu feisty13:17
dooglus!info xnview13:18
ubotuPackage xnview does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas13:18
Philo06Anybody know if the driver support for nvidia is fixed in 7.10? I have an 8800 gts and when attempting to install in 7.04 had the driver crash on me for kernel header issues.13:18
Ximalneopsyche : feisty support is in #ubuntu ;)13:18
Tritoniohello everyone! I am trying to upgrade but the installation says that it needs 1.6GB free in /. During the last repartitioning i made the terible miskate to make my root partition only 5GB. Is there any way to store the temporary upgrade files on another partition?13:18
Nidois it possible to upgrade Gutsy from 32 to 64 bits keeping the configuration and programs?13:18
causa-primaNido: no13:18
WaltzingAlongNido: so long as /home was installed on its own partition13:18
stdinXimal: this is #ubuntu13:18
neopscyheXimal: can you help me?13:18
tattersAnyone manged to get final yet tell me if dolphin still got permission bug on open as rot13:18
Ximalno neo : #ubuntu can..13:18
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stdinXimal: this is #ubuntu13:19
neopscyheIf that is true.. how..13:19
MoultWhoah! this channel is clogged because of the new ubuntu version release.13:19
murlidhar:)13:19
HeUnuHello! I need some help. I have ubuntu and all is ok.. but sometimes it would be rested.. the linux is shutted down.. What can I do?13:19
Ximaloh crud13:19
jribXimal: #ubuntu+1 is forwarded now13:19
Ximalmy bad13:19
neopscyheyes Ximal.. if you keep insisting i go to #ubuntu I may think you are missing something13:19
Ximalwrong chanel13:19
XimalLOL13:19
JohnRobert1224 packages13:19
JohnRoberturk!13:19
Ximalwait13:19
HeUnuHere someone that can help me pls?13:20
murlidharXimal: :)13:20
JohnRobertI really hope the gnome module in python is fixed13:20
neopscyheXimal, can you help?13:20
Philo06Anybody know if the driver support for nvidia is fixed in 7.10? I have an 8800 gts and when attempting to install in 7.04 had the driver crash on me for kernel header issues.13:20
Ximalubuntu+1 is forwarded ? wtf ?13:20
neopscyhecan nayone help?13:20
JohnRobertI bet it isn't13:20
JohnRobert:/13:20
MoultIs there anybody who wouldn't mind to give me some help installing some linux thing...sorry, I am a windows user. Just private message me. Thanks in advance! I'm really needing this help.13:20
neopscyheenyanyone?13:20
Ali_ixneopscyhe: i have installed programs from rpm binary packages with alien several times! there is no potential bug/issue with this kind of installation!13:20
neopscyheI need to install xnview13:20
JohnRobertMoult: just ask your question here13:20
neopscyheok.13:20
doogluswtf?  gutsy automatically runs a bittorrent tracker?13:20
stdinXimal: #ubuntu+1 is closed until development on Hardy is started13:20
neopscyheAli_ix: ok., please can you talk me through it.13:20
Ximalnooo13:20
Ximalnoooooo13:20
JohnRobert!smartquestions13:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smartquestions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:20
XimalNOOOOOOOOOOO13:20
neopscyheAli_ix: i dont want to mess it up13:20
Ximalughh13:20
MoultJohnRobert: It's probably going to get some flames for people asking me not to ask it in ubuntu, i'm not sure which channel I should ask it in13:20
neopscyheAli_ix: first time using alien13:20
TerrasqueAli_ix: ive tried installing rpm converted to deb many times. One time it even worked, kinda13:20
XimalI want my ubuntu+113:20
Ximali want it now ! lol13:20
* Ximal is naked13:20
MoultJohnRobert: because I am really pathetic with computers really13:21
JohnRobertMoult: if you give us the jist of what you're after, we'll help13:21
flick2Philo06, i heard that it has been fixed.13:21
MoultJohnRobert: ok13:21
JohnRobertor at least point you in the right direction13:21
Philo06flick2, K thanks.13:21
JohnRoberttrust me, open source people are nice13:21
JohnRobert:p13:21
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JohnRobertyou're thinking of Windows[tm] sysadmins13:21
JohnRobert:p13:21
punzadaI think I'll be able to knock down my xp install to only 5gb today13:21
Ali_ixneopscyhe: anyway! if you want to copile, read the README or INSTALL file included in package and follow installation steps, you may fell in a hell-dependency-chain while compiling that! but it would make you a geek! :)13:21
MoultWell I am running a 15 year old windows xp (ultra lag) with 1gig free space and 195 mb ram.13:21
punzadawoot @ that13:21
flick2JohnRobert, do you seek help in installing Ubuntu from scratch?13:21
JohnRobertthat's fine Moult13:21
MoultJohnRobert: I know, I use open-source programs.13:21
HeUnuJohnRobert: Can you help me?13:21
flick2Moult, do you seek help in installing Ubuntu from scratch?13:22
gvsa123what program should i use for infrared?13:22
TerrasqueJohnRobert: ive seen oss flame feasts that can grill a herd of gnu's no problem ;)13:22
tatters15 yr old xp,,,boy time flies fast13:22
JohnRobertlol Terrasque13:22
Moultflick2, no, I cannot run Ubuntu on my computer, it does not have enough free space, nor sufficient RAM to run it from a CD.13:22
Philo06I'm downloading now. Hopefully all is well.13:22
MoultI have tried xubuntu, but still with no luck.13:22
HeUnuMy linux is rested without no reason... What can it be?13:22
Philo06I also had issues getting the installer partitioner to work. Any other way to partition on the cd?13:22
Philo06I'd like to be able to keep my windows partition.13:22
JohnRobertMoult: the alternative CD can run and install ubuntu on a system with less ram13:22
JohnRoberttry that13:22
neopscyheAli_ix: hell-dependency-chain?13:23
Ali_ixneopscyhe: install build-essetial, unpack the tar.gz file and start to configure it based on documentation included13:23
MoultI am attempting puppylinux or damnsmalllinux, but I am not sure exactly what to do If i do not what to burn it to a cd13:23
JohnRobertnot sure if you have enough hard disk space...but should be alright (I think)13:23
TritonioI am trying to upgrade to gutsy but the installation says that it needs 1.6GB free in /. During the last repartitioning i made the terrible mistake to make my root partition only 5GB. Is there any way to store the temporary upgrade files on another partition?13:23
murlidharMoult: u should use alternate cd to install ubuntu gutsy it is better if u use Xbuntu13:23
TerrasqueMoult: you tried xubuntu too, but no luck? What was the error/problem?13:23
pwnt-no system upgrade for me yet :(13:23
neopscyheAli_ix: ok.. aliix i just started installing alien.. dont get me side tracked ! :-)13:23
JohnRobert810/1224 packages13:23
JohnRobert:p13:23
MoultWell, I'm not sure what I can do with 1gig of free space13:23
stdinMoult: use the alternate cd to install if you don't have enough ram to run the desktop CD13:23
Moultand 195mb ram.13:24
MoultWhat is the alternate CD?13:24
flick2Philo06, i also had problem with my 8600GTS... I am hoping that it has been fixed. My speed is slow, so can only confirm after 8 hours from now!13:24
JohnRobertMoult: the alternate CD can boot and install on just 128MB of ram iirc13:24
A1any torrent for gutsy final13:24
panosruHi i'm on gutsy and on repos update i take "Could not download all repository indexes"13:24
JohnRobertMoult: the alternate CD is available for download on www.ubuntu.com13:24
flick2!torrents|A113:24
JohnRobertin the same place that the regular one is13:24
ubotuA1: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)13:24
TerrasqueMoult: its a cd with the old, text based installer instead of the graphical live cd13:24
Philo06Flick2, Sad to hear that. I hope it goes well.13:24
JohnRobert^ or you can download via a torrent13:24
MoultOh, i was also aiming on the OS to make my computer faster to try and get more out of this hunking piece of...old hardware13:24
murlidharMoult: but since u have 1GB of free space u can't install it13:24
Philo06Flick2, Mine should be done in about 30 min.13:25
Philo06I'll let you know if you are still in here.13:25
murlidharMoult: what is the disk size?13:25
flick2Philo06, cool in that case you can confirm to me :) i'll be here thanks13:25
MoultWell, actually I have 1.5gb, but downloading the iso for xubuntu took up 500mb13:25
panosruanyone gets the same error? (Could not download all repository indexes)13:25
JohnRobertMoult: you probably want to investigate on the web what your options are13:25
MoultIs there an alternate CD for xubuntu?13:25
TerrasqueMoult: Just out of curiosity, where are you from? I've seen beefier systems given away for free :)13:25
wanglinhello ,everyone13:25
neopscyheis there a system font that looks like arial? if so what is it called?13:25
MoultTerrasque: I am from Malaysia.13:25
JohnRobertMoult: it's worth finding out about 'dual booting' ubuntu and windows xp13:25
punkrockmcduckGutsy is incredible. I don't think I've ever been more impressed by an OS.13:25
TerrasqueMoult: ah, ok13:25
neopscyheGUTSY?13:26
JohnRobertgutsy13:26
murlidharMoult: what is the disk size?13:26
MoultTerrasque: actually, i'm in malaysia, but i'm canadian13:26
pwnt-can somebody tell me why i'm not seeing any available upgrades. I haven't yet upgraded to final gutsy was using Beta. and i did "sudo update-manager -d -c" and nothing was there after the "check"13:26
panosruanyone gets the same error? (Could not download all repository indexes)13:26
neopscyheI heard GUTSY killed someones tty's13:26
HeUnuHi, can you try help me pls? I have to work on my linux but it sometimes exectue rest without no reason... have you any idea what can be the reason for it?13:26
MoultWell, ok I have 1.5gb, let's leave it at that13:26
wanglin700M13:26
flick2!gutsy > neopscyhe13:26
Moultand don't forget i still want some space to dump my files of course ;)13:26
HeUnuwithout reason13:26
Picineopscyhe: install msttcorefonts, I think arial might be in there.13:26
punkrockmcduckyeah? worked perfectly for me, except I want 1600x1200 resolution, and it only gives me 1280x1024.13:26
punkrockmcduckany idea how to change that?13:26
BusMaster!gutsy13:26
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents13:26
murlidharMoult: u have to free up the space13:26
MoultSo any ideas of what I should do?13:26
neopscyhePici: i dont mind another font13:27
shpxlbh_Hello, in gutsy during install gpart doesn't see partition table one of mine disk :/ what I can do ?13:27
d1n0IS IT OUT??13:27
d1n0:D13:27
Tritoniois there any way to make the temporary upgrade file to be stored on another partition?13:27
neopscyhePici: just want to change font on chatzilla because it says 'system' now which looks like times new roman.. which is irritating.13:27
Terrasquepunkrockmcduck: the biggest os step ive ever done was win98se to win2000. THAT was night vs day. Not even dos to 3.1 was that profound ;)13:27
mvopwnt-: if you have beta installed and applied the regular updates your are fine13:27
Ali_ixneopscyhe: check this for the hell-dependency-chain term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell13:27
Ali_ixneopscyhe: :)13:27
dns_56HeUnu: it resets randomly? this tends to be ether a problem with the kernel, or more likely hardware, run memtest to check your memory etc13:27
Philo06Is there another partitioner I can use to install Gutsy? When attempting to partition with 7.04 the installer didn't partition for me.13:27
murlidharMoult: probly better if u delete windows XP13:27
WaltzingAlong!final13:27
ubotuIf you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.13:27
Masticore!torrents13:27
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)13:27
Philo06I want to make sure I can use my windows partition.13:28
neopscyheAli_ix: thanks13:28
tattersDos to win 31 then 95 then 98 upgrade was fun13:28
pwnt-mvo: but there wasn't any update since yesteray or today. and the final released few mins ago.. so13:28
ubstudMy computer running freenx server is behind a web proxy, how can I configure the server to accept that proxy?13:28
ubstudBecause of this I cannot connect to the computer from the client machine.13:28
ubstudAll I need to do is make the freenx server recognize the proxy that I'm behind.13:28
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pwnt-mvo: beside it didn't ask me for a reboot. its weird13:28
shpxlbh_Hello, in gutsy during install gpart doesn't see partition table on one of mine disk :/ what I can do ?13:28
pengois there a torrent for 7.10 ?13:28
gamed|phhi13:28
mvopwnt-: that is fine, no packages changed since yesterday, it was just cd building and the like that was doing on13:28
hrntis there a simple way to upgrade feisty fawn to 7.10?13:28
Philo065 more minutes :)13:28
orlandojhow can i correct the error dpkg: dpkg: ../../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed."): ?13:29
gamed|phanybody knows some tool for small companies to manage there CRM and Bills?13:29
orlandojit happens after to do an dpkg --reconfigure -a13:29
mvopwnt-: there will be updates again within the next couple of days to fix smallish bugs13:29
ubstudhello?13:29
jrib!torrent > pengo (read the private message from ubotu)13:29
Pici!torrents > pengo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)13:29
fevelwhere can I find my contacts information for thunderbird so I can back up my contents???13:29
dns_56orlandoj: try removing the package in question and installing it again13:29
MoultI am finding it pretty hard to keep up with the conversation with so many users.13:29
Picijrib: torrent is torrent clients, torrents is the releases ;)13:29
MoultCan anybody help me (just some advice) in a private chat?13:30
jrib!torrents > pengo (read the private message from ubotu)13:30
murlidharMoult: it is better if u visit this channel after a week13:30
WorkingOnWisehow can I check to be sire grub is installed right before I reboot? I formated sda1 as ext3 from ntfs and want to be sure the system will boot again.13:30
MoultI tried yesterday ;)13:30
zetheroodisappointed that Screen Expansion is not working13:30
PriceChildWorkingOnWise, grub isn't installed on partitions....13:30
neopscyheargh! chatzilla wont change fonts.13:30
orlandojdns_56,  the error is the same13:30
Miinetiis there a simple way to upgrade feisty fawn to 7.10? ^^13:30
PriceChildWorkingOnWise, well the boot loader at least13:31
zetherooI just bought an LCD panel to attach to my laptop13:31
erUSULMoult: just pre-append the nick of the one you are talking to13:31
ubstudanyone know how to tell freenx the proxy I'm behind?13:31
PriceChild!upgrade | Miineti13:31
ubotuMiineti: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes13:31
Ali_ixMiineti: yes!13:31
erUSULubotu tell Miineti about upgrade | Miineti see priv msg from ubotu13:31
gamed|phanybody knows a open source project for accouting in small companies?13:32
kishandid any one upgrade from rc to final release i see no updates today13:32
WorkingOnWisePriceChild: the boot loader is actually on sda, not sda1? As it I don't need an sda1 as long as fstab is right?13:32
Miinetithx13:32
auowEwhen I was trying to download Ubuntu 7.10 with dta from firefox, It crashed when moving the downloaded file.  How can I get back the original cd from it's chunk files.13:32
dns_56orlandoj try and remove some of the dependencies, perhaps you need to try and purge the package13:32
neopscyhegamed|ph there is one13:32
erUSULgamed|ph: ledgerSQL or something like that13:32
Pici!Final > kishan (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)13:32
auowEI have the chunk files, How can I figure out the order of the chunk files.13:32
orlandojdns_56, i'll try it.13:32
broklynanyone can provide me a list with all md5sums?13:33
reppelWhere do i find a torrent of gutsy?13:33
neopscyhe!accounting13:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about accounting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:33
PriceChild!torrents | reppel13:33
ubotureppel: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)13:33
PriceChild!info gnucash | neopscyhe13:33
kbrosnanauowE: do you have a .part file on your desktop from firefox?13:33
ubotuneopscyhe: gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1746 kB, installed size 5360 kB13:33
tinglehi just installed 7.10 but my pc doesnt like the new gui effects can i turn them off somewhere?13:33
Ali_ixbroklyn: check download mirrors13:33
jscinozhey guys, im running the gutsy RC, is there anything special i need to do to update to full release now that its here?13:33
zetheroodoes #ubuntu +1 exist anymore?13:33
Picibroklyn: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS13:33
WaltzingAlong!final | jscinoz13:33
PocketBrai1torrent, anybody?13:33
ubotujscinoz: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.13:33
Picizetheroo: no13:33
PriceChildzetheroo, no13:33
FilypeI'd like to do a dual boot with WinXP and Ubuntu. Somebody can help me?13:33
Pici!torrents > PocketBrai1 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)13:33
auowEkbrosnan; I tried it with dta and I still have the chunks in tmp/dta folder.13:33
jscinozcheers13:33
broklynPici: thanks :)13:33
Ali_ixzetheroo: it is a beta dissuse channel, closed for now13:33
gamed|phkbrosnan: but gnucash cant create bills afaik13:34
erUSULubotu tell Filype about dualboot | Filype see priv msg from ubotu13:34
MoultHold on guys who were talking to me...i'm just going ot see if i can get any more space from my comp13:34
kbrosnangamed|ph: wrong person13:34
gamed|phsorry13:34
kbrosnanauowE: what is dta?13:34
nanonymenice, our campus just made an unofficial mirror for ubuntu images :)13:34
tinglehi just installed 7.10 but my pc doesnt like the new gui effects can i turn them off somewhere?13:34
anandanbuWhen i try to play an mp3 song in amarok it says mp3 support not installed what to do13:34
Tritonioany way to upgrade gutsy while having 1GB free in /?13:34
nanonyme(or a person living in it anyway)13:34
zetherooAli_ix: in Pidgin is there a way to get the sound notification working when someone replies to me in IRC chat?13:34
tinglecan i turn the new 3d effects of GG off?13:34
Miinetidta=downthemall13:34
erUSULtingle: probably in System>Preferences13:34
Picitingle: System>Preferences>Appearance> Desktop effects tab13:34
FilypeerUSUL: thanks guy13:34
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auowEkbrosnan; down them all; Download manager(addon) for firefox13:35
erUSULFilype: no problem ;)13:35
neopscyheWhat distro will run extremely fast on Celeron 450mhz running gnome? with 128mb ram13:35
OM1136!torrents >OM113613:35
Eastin24is it not recommended to download ubuntu using download managers that download it by dividing the file into 10 pieces?13:35
neopscyhexubuntu?13:35
jscinozDSL?13:35
neopscyheDSL..13:35
murlidharMoult: i am sorry but i gotta go but before doing anything remember to backup ur whole hard disk. Else u might repent13:35
seventhchi, im trying to do the upgrade and it keeps failing on wine, any ideas??13:35
neopscyhehas it got gnome?13:35
jscinozxfce13:35
jscinozwait13:35
jscinozi think it was blackbox13:35
Moultmurlidhar: during installing linux?13:35
dns_56ubuntu-server (no gui)13:35
PocketBrai1thanks, I will try it out.13:35
Ali_ixzetheroo: didnt tried it yet, but there is a plugin that track your name in a channel. my whole sound noification is also off :D13:35
erUSULseventhc: remove wine and when everything is upgraded install it again13:35
murlidharMoult: before installing linux back up ur PC13:36
pwnt-ok i screw up managing my panels etc. now I want to go back to the default normal gnome panels standard look, how :p13:36
punzadathink putting aside 8 gigs for gusty OS (not including home folder) is a fair amount?13:36
espereguanyone knows where to find the xubuntu torrent?13:36
seventhci cant find it in the manager to remove it13:36
erUSULpunzada: yes13:36
seventhcis there a command to remove it?13:36
neopscyhehow can I change ubuntu to be less graphic intensive on another system?13:36
flick2what is xubuntu?13:36
flick2!xubuntu13:36
eS_jEruK_aNgEt_6oi13:36
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ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels13:36
zetherooAli_ix: cause for some reason Kopete is not working for me anymore.... so i have to use Pidgen13:36
erUSULflick2: ubuntu with xfce13:36
Ali_ixesperegu: check mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors13:36
Eastin24is it not recommended to download ubuntu using download managers that download it by dividing the file into 10 pieces?13:36
WaltzingAlong!kubuntu13:36
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE13:36
ubstudso no one can help me with freenx?13:36
scrumpyGums!KDE13:37
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.13:37
erUSULEastin24: torrent is the safest way imho13:37
kbrosnanauowE: from what i am reading dtm should resume13:37
erUSUL!botabuse13:37
zetheroocan someone say my screen name please?13:37
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...13:37
WaltzingAlongzetheroo:13:37
erUSULzetheroo: zetheroo13:37
MorrisseyHi! I have a Nvidia GeForce 8400m graphic card, and have connected my 32" HDTV with DVI ... I have managaed to set up twinview correct with the 32" at resolution: 1280x720 ... But I want it to use 1920x1080 ... when changing this in the "xorg.conf" manually, nothing apperas on my 32" .... any ideas? And using the nvidia GUI settings thing wont set higher resolution than 1280 ...13:37
zetheroothanks13:37
TerrasqueerUSUL: or find a fat pipe to leech from ;) Got my tricks there13:37
dooglustingle: heh, I'm still trying to work out how to turn them on :)13:37
neopscyhe!microsoft13:37
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents13:37
neopscyhehehe13:37
zetherooI was just testing out the sounds13:37
naer_dinsulSpeaking of the torrent, where is the link?  I can't seem to find it on the ubuntu.com site...13:37
zetheroocan someone help me with the screen expansion ...?13:38
RoC_MasterMindi need a torrent too13:38
erUSUL!torrents > neopscyhe13:38
Ali_ixzetheroo: did it work?13:38
seventhcdoes anyone know the command to remove wine??13:38
JohnRobertbleh, this takes ages to upgrade on my craptop13:38
JohnRobertbbl13:38
WaltzingAlongseventhc: yes13:38
zetherooAli_ix: yes thanks13:38
erUSUL!torrents > RoC_MasterMind13:38
WaltzingAlongseventhc: sudo aptitude purge wine13:38
Ali_ixRoC_MasterMind: check mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors13:38
Morrisseyseventhc, sudo apt-get remove wine13:38
ubstudCan anyone help me with setting up FREENX??13:38
tux97hi13:38
times9is there a package in the repos which contains an idl compiler for java, I can't seem to find one anywhere13:38
Morrisseyor purge13:38
seventhcWaltzingAlong thank you13:38
erUSUL!freenx > ubstud13:38
Skeesh!freenx13:38
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX13:38
zetherooI just got an LCD panel to attach to my Laptop... so I want to get screen expension working....13:38
pwnt-ok i screw up managing my panels etc. now I want to go back to the default normal gnome panels standard look, how :p13:38
flick2erUSUL should i install xubuntu or ubuntu or kubuntu if i am installing for first time?13:39
naer_dinsulThanks Ali_ix...  Man, the mirrors are getting hammered...13:39
Sp0tUbCan i upgrade to 7.10 from 7.10 beta?13:39
giulyHi, I updated from feisty to gutsy some time ago, and it installed all that kde-stuff. is there a way to remove it?13:39
RoC_MasterMindtorrents: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/releases/7.10/ (BOTTOM OF PAGE)13:39
giuly(ubuntu)13:39
zetherooSo.... how happy is everyone!!!!!13:39
afief!torrents > afief13:39
erUSULflick2: linux is about choice... it is really up to you but most documentation, help, guides etc are for the default ubuntu13:40
Ali_ixnaer_dinsul: yes! all servers are under fire :D it is an alternative mirror list i found :)13:40
endxIs there an alternate text installer like there was for feisty?13:40
zetheroohey ... how do I get cool themes going?13:40
erUSULSp0tUb: yes, just accept the updates as they come13:40
askandThere is a bug keeping me from using the terminal with compiz activated, that will propably not be fixed? Cause its not an "security vulnerability" and does not "make me lose my userdata"..?13:40
flick2erUSUL, thanks13:40
FantazyiaIs anyone else getting an error during the upgrade process about connecting to http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu/dists/fiesty/fonts/binary-i386 ?13:40
Ali_ixendx: yes, available in dvd or alternate cd13:40
erUSULendx: yes13:40
punzadayes endx13:40
mitchbonesShould I download the i386 if I am using an Intel Core2Duo??13:40
endxAh thanks.13:40
naer_dinsulAli_ix: Well, I suppose it's a credit to the ferocity of the Ubuntu crowd...13:40
FilypeI use the USB-modem SpeedStream 4200, and it works very well with WinXP. Will it work if Ubuntu 7.10?13:40
erUSUL!bugs | askand13:40
ubotuaskand: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots13:40
Ali_ixmitchbones: yes,13:40
Sp0tUberUSUL ok, thanks alot! :-)13:41
zetheroothemes... anyone?13:41
erUSUL!adsl > Filype13:41
erUSULSp0tUb: no problem13:41
mitchbonesAli_ix, Thanks13:41
times9is there a package in the repos which contains an idl compiler for java, I can't seem to find one anywhere13:41
punzadamitchbones, you can use either release, I reccomend staying with the 32 bit architecture because in all honesty the 64bit still has issues with lots of common apps13:41
askanderUSUL: I have reported it, I was just wondering of there is still a chanse getting it fixed or do I have to wait 6 months?13:41
gutsygunamitchbones: yes13:41
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Sp0tUberUSUL Hmm, i says there is no updates? Is it not possible to get them yourself?13:42
erUSULaskand: it depends... i'm still waiting (two releases since) for a firehol bugfix :(13:42
mitchbonesThnx punzada  and Gutsyguana13:42
Omniushow do i open *.sit files?13:42
FantazyiaAnyone else having upgrade issues to 7.10 ?13:42
erUSULSp0tUb: if you are up to date then you have gutsy final13:42
neopscyhecan someone please help me install alien gui13:42
robertjouch, out already?13:42
dns_56times9: should be with the java sdk13:42
robertji feel cheated out of a whole day of anticipation13:42
ToddEDMhey is there a gutsy torrent?13:42
Sp0tUberUSUL How do i chek that?13:42
saritorBoo at not being able to get a download started. :(13:42
erUSUL!torrents > ToddEDM13:42
Ali_ixneopscyhe: there is now gui for alien yet13:42
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punzadalol robertj13:43
neopscyheno gui?13:43
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neopscyheAli_ix: no gui?13:43
erUSULSp0tUb: System>About ?13:43
seventhci removed wine, but i still get this...Failed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/feisty/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'wine.lowvoice.nl'13:43
seventhcFailed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/feisty/main/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2 Could not resolve 'wine.lowvoice.nl'13:43
seventhcFailed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Could not resolve 'wine.lowvoice.nl'13:43
neopscyheAli_ix: i think there is.13:43
punzadaI slept through the actual release ;/13:43
robertjtorrents me too, I'm on a fat pipe13:43
zetheroocan you use emerald themes with compiz-fusion?13:43
jribneopscyhe: alien?  you should try to avoid that.  What are you trying to install?13:43
Sp0tUbAhh :-) Im pretty new to this! :-)13:43
Ali_ixneopscyhe: atleast i dont no one! try terminal! it is easy!13:43
erUSULseventhc: it is a network problem (dns)13:43
punzadaYou can zetheroo13:43
Sp0tUberUSUL Thanks! :-)13:43
seventhcon my end??13:43
DarkFlibquick question, are there DVD isos for 7.10 since I can't find any evidence of them (even torrent files)13:43
PocketBrai1torrent is the best way to distribute software such as this.  I just started and have 11MB and have share 4.5MB already.13:43
erUSULseventhc: dunno (can't know from here)13:43
jribzetheroo: yes, emerald is in the repositories13:44
fiXXXerMe1Aye, torrent rocks for releases like this.13:44
zetheroopunzada: so that is one way to get cool themes going.....?13:44
seventhcok, ill try again later or dl the iso i guess13:44
erUSULseventhc: that site also files for me13:44
PocketBrai1don't worry, my share ratio will climb13:44
punzadayup, I perfer using the built in gnome + compiz themes but you can substitude the gtk window manager for the emerald ones if you perfer those13:44
saritor!torrent13:44
Philo06Anybody know of a free iso burner?13:44
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html13:44
times9dns_56: yea I know but I can't find the java sdk in the repos either, only the free version and the blackdown version, do I need to download it from the sun website?13:44
jrib!iso > Philo06 (read the private message from ubotu)13:44
erUSULPhilo06: for windows?13:44
neopscyheAli_ix: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35802&forumpage=0&PHPSESSID=179685abea96fa7d12302c852f91ab9313:45
neopscyheAli_ix: alleged alien gui13:45
endxHmm... I'm running a triple boot system with vista's boot table as the main(I think), if I want to replace feisty with gutsy, could I install it over ex3 and swap and then write the boot sector on a *.bin file and load in conjunction with xp like I am doing now?13:45
Philo06erusul, Yes.13:45
PocketBrai1how about K3B for writing the iso?13:45
punzadahow the hell with all those listed it doesnt list deluge ;/13:45
robertjok, where is the torrents link, I've looked at the download page13:45
XenThraLI been running gutsy since tribe5, would it be best to wipe drive and reinstall with final or should my build with all patches be no different?13:45
jrib!torrents > robertj (read the private message from ubotu)13:45
Philo06Yes, I'm on windows.13:45
XenThraLreally curious about this seeing as the last update of kdelibs has made for some weird behavior in some apps13:46
erUSULPhilo06: check the ubotu msg13:46
Ali_ixneopscyhe: thanks for info :)13:46
PocketBrai1I run a lot of KDE apps in Gnome.  Does that make me a bad boy?13:46
tomd123yes13:46
punzadano13:46
PocketBrai1LOL13:46
kaushalis Gutsy Gibbon a codename13:46
neopscyhelol PocketBrail13:46
jribXenThraL: just upgrade as you get notified about new packages13:46
kaushalof the ubuntu project13:46
pwnt-PocketBrai1: bad boy!13:46
neopscyheMake me a sandwedge.13:46
Ali_ixneopscyhe: since i am a terminal addict, i dont look after guis :)13:46
kaushaland what does it mean13:46
XenThraLjrib: none so far, guess I'll see them later?13:46
FluxDPhilo06: deepburner or infrarecorder13:46
neopscyhe(person says no)13:46
PocketBrai1K3B is better than the default Gnome CD-burning app.13:46
PocketBrai1not to mention ktorrent.13:46
neopscyhesudo make me a sandwedge13:46
FantazyiaAnyone else getting this during upgrade:  Failed to fetch http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu/dists/fiesty/fonts/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found ??13:46
neopscyhe(person says yes)13:46
chippyKtorrent is quite buggy13:46
times9kaushal: Gutsy Gibbon is the actual name of the next ubuntu release13:46
dns_56gutsy is the codename 7.10 is the offical version13:46
punzadaPocketBrai1, deluge > ktorrent13:47
pwnt-PocketBrai1: why not just run kde ;p13:47
Sp0tUberUSUL it says 7.10 "gutsy"13:47
PocketBrai1Sandwedge = what Tiger uses to get out of the bunker, neopsyche.13:47
kaushalthanks times913:47
vbgunzwhere is the torrent?13:47
erUSULSp0tUb: congrats13:47
kaushalwhat does it mean13:47
Sp0tUberUSUL then its final right?13:47
jpastoreanyone install gutsy yet?13:47
neopscyhePocketBrail ok.13:47
erUSUL!torrents > vbgunz13:47
neopscyhe;-) lol13:47
erUSULjpastore: many13:47
Ali_ixvbgunz: check mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors13:47
punzadathe only kde app I think I run in gnome is Klibido, because it beats the hell out of pan for being a binary newsreader13:47
jribXenThraL: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade    may help things along... make sure you are on a local mirror (that has been updated)13:47
jpastoreerUSUL, any reasons not to upgrade?13:47
misfitpierceHello13:48
vbgunzthanks fellas!13:48
zetherooI installed Emerald.... but where are all the themes?13:48
misfitpiercequestion13:48
XenThraLI wondered if that was the reason so I put it on the main server jrib13:48
ubstudOkay guys I really need your help. I have installed freenx but I need help setting it up since my computer is behind an http proxy. Can someone please help me??13:48
PocketBrai1S/B PocketBrain13:48
pwnt-jpastore: I want to upgrade, but i cant13:48
tucunajpastore - to minimise the potential for problems13:48
misfitpierceDoes xubuntu gutsy have encryption option on alternate as ubuntu gutsy has?????13:48
erUSULjpastore: i haven't upgrade yet myself but have upgraded my ubuntu many times without major issues13:48
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jpastoreerUSUL, I actually do work from my ubuntu box...and dont' want to blow it13:48
hrnthmm.. how can i verify that my feisty fawn -> gutsy gibbon upgrade worked? do-release-upgrade aborted when i ran out of disk space in /boot.. i did dpkg --configure -a after that but i am not sure is the upgrade finished now13:48
ubstuderUSUL, do you know how?13:48
IdleOnehrnt: lsb_release -a in a terminal what does it say?13:49
jribXenThraL: then your fine as long as there are no errors13:49
ubstudDoes anybody?13:49
tucunajpastore - backup, prepare for fresh install, then try update and be positively surprised (or not)13:49
erUSULjpastore: i allways wait a week or two before upgrading so othere acts as beta testers ;).13:49
TECH_17.10 kicks butt.13:49
chippyhow much disc space do you need?13:49
XenThraLso there are no updates for me, what I have is == to the final version?13:49
hrntIdleOne: no lsb modules are available, release 7.10 codename gutsy13:49
chippyme too erUSUL13:49
misfitpierce----- Does anyone know if Xubuntu has Encryption option on Alternate like Ubuntu Alternate has ?@???@???13:49
XenThraLif so then the final version shipped with the kopete MSN bug13:49
jpastoreerUSUL, I actually had a problem going from edgy to feisty...network manager didn't upgrade properly ...I couldn't create a vpn connection...I actually ended up reloading feisty from scratch13:49
dns_56times9: there still should be sun-java6-jdk, there is also a java 7 release based off openjdk, feel free to compile your own version of java (it is not that hard if you can be bothered)13:49
IdleOnehrnt: you are running gusy13:49
IdleOnegutsy13:50
kishandoes any one recieved any updates today in gusty ..those who installed rc13:50
jpastoretucuna, /sigh13:50
ubstudguys please help me setting up FREENX13:50
jpastorepwnt-, why can't you upgrade?13:50
erUSULjpastore: well nothing is 100% secure ...13:50
zetheroohow do you get themes for emerald?13:50
pwnt-jpastore: because I click into update manager, and "check" and nothing is there :)13:50
erUSULubstud: never used freenx sorry :)13:50
askandI get this when trying to open gnome-terminal:13:50
askand The program 'gnome-terminal' received an X Window System error.13:50
Ali_ix!torrents13:50
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)13:50
jpastoreerUSUL, I know...13:50
times9dns_56: thanks man, don't know why apt-cache search didn't find it13:50
TECH_1My windows box just (accidently) fell 6 floors.13:51
jpastoreerUSUL, I'm hoping things like burning dvdr -r media is workign in this distro13:51
kondor101just checking, have we switched to 7.10 in here now or do i need to go +113:51
ubstudis WINE for guts corrupt? Cause whenever I try to run it my computer jams up13:51
times9TECH_1: heehee13:51
erUSULjpastore: allways worked for me (since warty 3 years ago)13:51
askandkondor101: I think you come here if you try +113:51
tucunajpastore - hmm.. i just do: rsync -avzr /home/me /media/backup  and then try13:51
jpastorepwnt-, did you try doing apt-get dist-upgrade (I think that's the arg)13:51
pwnt-jpastore: i did that13:51
Ali_ixTECH_1: it was because of windows! install ubuntu and it will jump 6 floors up :D13:51
ubstudis WINE for guts corrupt? Cause whenever I try to run it my computer jams13:51
vbgunzdamn, the kubuntu torrent downloaded quick. the ubuntu download is not even starting :/13:52
naer_dinsulAli_ix:  I don't know if I'm the only one having problems, but it looks like the torrent tracker is now inundated too...  I can't get a response from the server...13:52
erUSUL!repeat > ubstud13:52
jpastorepwnt-, then I don't know how to help you...download the iso13:52
TECH_1It was worth calling in sick (cough cough)...thanks Ubuntu..another job well done.13:52
vbgunzdid everyone switch to kubuntu :)13:52
Gun_Smokeubstud: did you try someting like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX13:52
pwnt-jpastore: I don't want a fresh new install :(13:52
misfitpierceDoes anyone know if xubuntu alt disc has option for encryption like ubuntu alt?13:52
kondor101yeaaaaa the iso is finally donloading lol13:52
jpastorepwnt-, I think you cna upgrade from the iso13:52
pwnt-jpastore: is it possible that my system got gutsy upgraded and then not asking me to restart system?13:52
zetherooI am so happy with Gutsy!!!!!!13:52
fabulotrondoes anyone have the verified hashes for the Gutsy ISO's?13:52
ubstudGun_Smoke, I did but that does now say how to configure my proxy on freenx13:52
zetheroo:-D13:52
Picifabulotron: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS13:53
jpastorepwnt-, I don't think you can perform a distribution upgrade without your knowledge unless you were high...13:53
Ali_ixnaer_dinsul: i am downling now and there is atleast 2500 peers connected13:53
askandWhen I try to open the terminal, I get this error: "The program 'gnome-terminal' received an X Window System error." Anyone knows how to fix that? I kind of need my gnome-terminal.......13:53
pwnt-jpastore: high?13:53
fabulotronaha thank you pici!13:53
TECH_1Browser add ons come right from the browser..way cool.13:53
kondor101i have slight problems with booting into gusty upgrade, so glad the final is out, ill do fresh install now/soon13:53
neopscyheAli_ix: ok so now i have alien..13:53
jpastorepwnt-, I was being sarcastic...13:53
mollitz/join #ubuntu-de13:53
neopscyheAli_ix: what do i do with it now?13:53
bluesignhi anyone know a sound library for audio reverb effects13:53
Ali_ixjpastore: i think there is some thing wrong with pwnt- virtual packages (liek ubuntu-desktop)13:54
pengohmm.. torrent's not downloading any faster than the swedish mirror was (from .au)13:54
apecatpeople, is it safe to use the command line server release upgrade tool described here (see url) for desktops. I want to do a few upgrades to desktop machines at home via ssh using screen: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading13:54
Ali_ixneopscyhe: get the xnview rm binary13:54
kondor101anyone else get the odd hang during gusty boot?13:54
zetheroohey.... I cannot open gzip files!!!!!!13:54
neopscyherm.. do you mean rpm?13:54
jpastoreAli_ix, what makes you say that?13:54
TECH_1Astla (vista) windows...he he.13:54
novato_brhow can I open ports on motorola sb5101 cable modem ?13:54
Ali_ixkondor101: no! it is not a general roblem13:54
novato_brmy internet is configured by dhcp client!13:55
novato_brand my internet is cable13:55
rhshi, is there a dist-upgrade command for ubuntu ?13:55
novato_brhow can I do that?13:55
Ali_ixjpastore: the update-manager/apt-get didnt noticed there is a new dist available, they will check this via virtual packages that also depend on last version13:55
kondor101is there a way i can see what the boot sequence is doing, so i can bugfix the boot?13:55
akulah_a modem has no ports to open13:55
akulah_just a router does13:55
Ali_ixjpastore: i have had similar issue before13:55
J_Phi all13:55
mcquaidmy buddy gave me his alt cd of the release candidate.  if i use that as a source to upgrade would i be saving much on downloading?13:55
espereguanyone has 7.10 Xubuntu torrent location??13:55
novato_brakulah, what can I do?13:56
mcquaidor has pretty much most of the rc packages gone through a revision?13:56
erUSULmcquaid: probably yes13:56
id10tdang it... motd passed...13:56
Terrasquemcquaid: kinda yes13:56
akulah_why13:56
akulah_what happens ?13:56
jpastoreAli_ix, is there an easy way to clean or validate the virtual packages?13:56
novato_bri need open ports to use torrents and dcc send files on irc13:56
macdesperegu, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 works.13:56
erUSUL!upgrade > rhs13:56
doozehow can i do to actulize ubunut 5 to ubuntu 713:56
J_PWhat is the codename/nickname for 7.10 ?13:56
PiciJ_P: Gutsy Gibbon13:56
times9novato_br: chances are your isp is blocking the ports13:56
erUSULdooze: better to do a fresh install13:56
id10tthe motd for the channel scrolled, off, could someone pls. tell me if there was a BT download link or /msg me the torrent url13:56
rhserUSUL, thanks13:56
doozehow can i do to actulize ubunut 5 to ubuntu 713:56
mcquaidok, now i know how to manually add a cd source and use apt to dist upgrade, but i kind of liked used the update manager last upgrade13:56
Ali_ixjpastore: there is some familiar VT's, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server, ubuntu-minimal and so on...13:56
J_PPici: Are there a page that talk about this on ubuntu page ?13:57
mcquaidcan I specify a cd source when using the update manager?13:57
novato_brtimes9, should i talk with my isp support?13:57
esperegumacd: cool! thx13:57
Pici!codenames | J_P13:57
Ali_ixjpastore: but i dont know what is the soloution hen they are locally corrupted13:57
ubotuJ_P: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more13:57
John|workdoes anyone know if there is a forum area or something where we can post things like "Acer [model] will not install Gutsy"?13:57
Ali_ixjpastore: a dpkg force reinstall may help13:57
kondor101does anyone know how to watch the boot sequence rather than the ubuntu bar filling slowly?13:57
id10tnm, gots it13:57
seventhcdooze i think you will have to dl the new image and install it13:57
erUSULkondor101: edit the grub conf file and get rid of quiet and splash boot options13:57
Ali_ixmcquaid: insert cd and you will be notified of new dist available13:57
times9novato_br: nothing to lose but i'ld say it's doubtful that they will open ports for you, try using common internet ports (22,80,8080,6000,etc.) with encryption turned on13:58
novato_brakulah and times9, i can't download by e-mule (e-donkey)13:58
loompekany fast mirrors with gusty?13:58
mcquaidAli_ix, really? didn't know that would trigger an update13:58
Picikondor101: remove quiet and splash from the end of your grub boot parameters13:58
Ali_ixloompek: try torrent13:58
jpastoreAli_ix, interesting....13:58
WaltzingAlong!mirrors | loompek13:58
Picinovato_br: check portforward.com13:58
novato_brcause my ports aren't openned13:58
ubotuloompek: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!13:58
WaltzingAlong!torrent | loompek13:58
ubotuloompek: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html13:58
mcquaidkondor101, i've wondered that before as well13:58
dns_56dooze: you should be possible to go though all intermediate distributions but it is a little old so start again13:58
kondor101erUSUL eugh! i was hoping for a keypress on boot or something13:58
CVirus!torrent13:59
times9novato_br: oh thought you were talking about torrents, no way round it I would think13:59
CVirusoops13:59
airtonarantesHello, ubuntu 7.10 was released?13:59
DarkFlib!torrents13:59
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)13:59
Ali_ixmcquaid: yes, you can also add cdroms as repositories in sunaptic settings13:59
endxI'm triple booting XP, ubuntu and vista right now. I believe Vista's boot loader is the main one. Can I install gutsy over feisty and back up grub and map the mount points with a *.bin file?13:59
mcquaidthere should be a key to press if you want to see detailed boot jsut for that bootup instead of mucking with grub parms13:59
Ali_ixairtonarantes: yes13:59
CVirus!torrent | cvirus13:59
novato_brthx, times913:59
dns_56airtonarantes: yes about 1.5 hours ago13:59
Pici!torrents > CVirus (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)13:59
FilypeI'd like to download Ubuntu 7.10 in Brazilian-Portuguese. It's avaliable?13:59
airtonarantesAli_ix, dns_56, ok thanks13:59
erUSULkondor101: yes just hit 'e' to edit the boot stanza and get rid of the parameters13:59
tomi!pastebin13:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)13:59
erUSULkondor101: then press b to boot13:59
PocketBrai1Thanks, Pici13:59
ssagIf you want a more specialised channel that deals with the Ubuntu derivatives, just use #kubuntu, #edubuntu, #xubuntu.14:00
mcquaidAli_ix, yes i've added cd's as sources in synaptic and dist upgraded that way in the past, but for feisty i used ubuntu's update manger and it went pretty smooth14:00
novato_brFilbert, plz14:00
airtonarantesFilype, You can choose the language that you want at inslation14:00
novato_brFilbert, can I getting ubuntu-br14:00
PocketBrai1Everybody grabbing the torrent; when you are done with your torrent, leave your BT client up as long as possible!14:00
novato_br?14:00
mcquaidnot sure if update manager is simply another gui means of dist upgrade or does it do other things to ensure a smooth transition.14:00
Filypeairtonarantes: ah, ok. Thanks :D14:00
novato_brFilype, could you getting on ubuntu-br channel ?14:00
MarcoPauanybody ever used a tv card?14:00
PocketBrai1We all want that coveted 200% share ratio!14:00
Picimcquaid: it does other things14:00
magicrobotmonkeyi get a segfault when i do update-manager -d14:00
novato_brit's brazilian ubuntu's channel14:01
macdMarcoPau, I use a hauppaugge card14:01
tomiHelp me with Nvidia drivers.I have installed the driver using the ubuntu package manager but i cant change the resolution. xorg.0.log -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41054/14:01
feroceRispondo a: Rimbot; test; -kick; -op; -deop; -topic; -addtopic; -deltopic; -resumetopic; -user;14:01
magicrobotmonkeyMarcoPau: yes, i have an old hapaugge wintv i use with myth14:01
mcquaidPici, if thats the case, is there anyway to specify a cd source for update manager to use?14:01
PocketBrai1Yeah, TV card... what's the suite that allows you to do stuff with video?  I am always fogetting to install that... yeah, MythTV, that's it.14:01
Ali_ixmcquaid: it mainly uses APt at backend and some further checking in upgrade14:01
zetheroowhat opens gzip?14:01
jribferoce: are you a bot? no bots here14:01
kaushalI am running 7.04 if i upgrade it through update manager how long would it go on to upgrade to 7.1014:01
kondor101hang on, has the DVD got more stuff on it?  only i am downloading for someone with a modem connection14:01
Ali_ixzetheroo: gunzip :D14:01
askandUrm..someone else who cant open update-manager in gutsy?14:01
teKnofreakkaushal, it depends on how many packages you added over the std install14:02
teKnofreakof 7.0414:02
dns_56mcquaid: you can use the alternate cd and the apt-cdrom tool14:02
macdkaushal, the download is about 800MB, plus say an hour or so for the actual update14:02
magicrobotmonkeyaskand: i can open it from deskbar, just not cfom cli14:02
kaushalthanks guys14:02
jribkondor101: the dvd has all of the main and restricted repos (which are online anyway)14:02
* genii sips a coffee14:02
mcquaiddns_56, ok but will update manager end up using the cd source?14:02
kondor101kaushal it took me about 1hr to update + downloads14:02
MarcoPaumacd: magicrobotmonkey: that's exactly was I was taking a look at: PVR 150... I assume they work with linux :-) and how about satellite decoders and such peripherals? can you attach them to the card?14:02
teKnofreakkaushal, considering you to be in India, with normal BB rate.. it will take 6-7 hours14:02
martin_hey, quick question, i can't get update-manager to work behind a proxy at uni, does it not use the gnome proxy settings?14:02
askandmagicrobotmonkey: ok..cant open it from anywhere : o14:02
kaushalsure14:03
mekhow do i upgrade?14:03
Picimartin_: I think that the proxy settings for update manager are in the software sources thing, check there.14:03
macdMarcoPau, DVB stuff is touch and go really, the mythtv wiki has a good list of supported hardware, the 2 pvr-500 cards I had just worked.14:03
Pici!upgrade | mek14:03
ubotumek: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes14:03
magicrobotmonkeyMarcoPau: theres all kind of workarounds, some boxes have firewire you can tap into, for others you have to use irblaster14:03
seu_barrigamek, upgrade what?14:03
PiRANiALoading TkCximage failed. This module is needed to run aMSN14:03
Ali_ixseu_barriga: the OS :}14:03
magicrobotmonkeybut yea, i'd recommend looking over at mythtv14:03
PiRANiAhelp14:03
idefixwhen you run the command top the list of processes can be long, how do you know if it exceeds the height of your x-window?14:03
John|workGutsy + SiS Mirage 3 graphics = no go.14:04
macdidefix, you can almost garuntee it does14:04
seu_barrigamek, try update-manager -c -d14:04
PiRANiAmy amsn stopped working, giving error:14:04
skyionRCPT from unknown[192.168.1.56]: 501 5.5.2 <192>: Helo command rejected: Invalid name14:04
idefixmacd, but you cannot scroll :(14:04
PiRANiALoading TkCximage failed. This module is needed to run aMSN14:04
macdidefix, you could just try resizing it too ;P14:04
Piciidefix: check the manpage, I think there are ways to scroll up and down.   also check out htop, its a lot more user friendly.14:04
skyionwhat does that mean14:04
macdidefix, yes listen to Pici htop is where its all.14:04
martin_Pici, can't see it in there, any more ideas?14:04
fujikoplease help, i can't get the compiz to enable14:05
Picimartin_: let me look, hold on14:05
dectusello :)14:05
MarcoPaumagicrobotmonkey: so usually you can connect any sort of decoder, speakers and stuff?14:05
dectussomeone knows the fastest server for ubuntu ??14:05
ubstud!paste14:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)14:05
fooeyafter Distribution Upgrade configured software channels and showed me a list of deprecated software it became unresponsive, should I xkill it or is this normal?14:05
magicrobotmonkeyMarcoPau: i wouldn't say *any* decoder14:05
dectusat least the most free server14:05
PiRANiAfujiko: error msg?14:05
geniidectus: Usually the one closest to you14:05
rpj8Hey, does X seem to lag more-so than a windows GUI due to the fact that DX is more far along than openGL?14:05
MarcoPaumagicrobotmonkey: what should I check?14:05
macddectus, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors might give you some insight14:05
magicrobotmonkeyMarcoPau: theres a ton of options, you basically need to find out what sort of tv you want to get, then from there figure out what hardware to get14:06
Ali_ixdectus: fastest is torrent now :)14:06
dectususually... but the siss one is down, and in germany are all slow14:06
retourHallo! How to install scaner under Ubuntu, simple installation of Xsane and autodetection fails?I know what scanner driver I need but how to force it/insert it?14:06
BWGameshey guys, just tried gutsy, installed the xine plugin for firefox, but it doesnt work (buffering 50% and tahts it), how can i change it to the mplayer plugin?14:06
warsocketmost free would be the totally free release of gutsy and then the server version14:06
fujikoprania -> cannot enable desktop effects14:06
loompeksmee again14:06
macdrpj8, well since DX is only since vista on the desktop rendering, Im not sure how you would compare those.14:06
fujikoi have ati all-in-wonder 960014:06
punzadacompiz is just as pretty :)14:06
BWGameshow can i tell if compiz is enabled?14:06
dooglusfujiko: it doesn't work with my ati x1600 either14:06
macdfujiko, yeah, thats really not going to cut it.14:06
Sp0tUbwhat to use for WinRAR splittet files containing images on 4-5Gb or more?14:07
loompekwhat's the gutsy torrent url again?14:07
fujikoso the video card is the problem?14:07
loompekforgot to log before14:07
dectusyea torrent would be nice14:07
Pici!torrents > loompek (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)14:07
WaltzingAlongSp0tUb: unrar ?14:07
Amaranthloompek: If it can't be enabled it can't be enabled14:07
airtonarantesloompek, http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/14:07
tomi_ help me with Nvidia drivers, i have intstalled the driver but still cant change the resolution http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41054/14:07
Ali_ixfujiko: check this on terminal: glxinfo | grep direct14:07
xipietotecis there a way to safely quit a dist-upgrade before you've started installing any packages?14:07
Amaranthloompek: We don't block you for no good reason :)14:07
MarcoPaumagicrobotmonkey: basically I'd like to get earth tv (via antenna) and digital tv (via decoder), and use a 2.1 speakers system, that I hope I can connect to the pvr and control with the remote14:07
Miinetiwhat was the command to get upgrades again?14:07
Sp0tUbWaltzingAlong Thats a program for Ubuntu right?14:07
Amaranthxipietotec: If you're still downloading just cancel it14:07
ac_loompek, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/gutsy-dvd-i386.iso.torrent14:07
WaltzingAlong!info unrar | Sp0tUb14:07
MarcoPaumagicrobotmonkey: these are mostly my needs, at least for now ;)14:07
ubotusp0tub: unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1.1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 232 kB14:07
geniifujiko: For the 9600 you may have better luch with radeon driver than fglrx or stock Xorg ati driver14:07
loompekthanks...14:07
ubstudGuys I'm trying to compile a program called transconnect...this is the first time ever compiling and I need some help. I'm following this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-65453.html and this is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41055/14:07
xipietotecAmaranth, ...there's no cancel button though14:07
PiRANiAMiineti: update-manager -c-d14:07
genii*luck14:07
fujikookay here is output from glxinfo | grep direct14:07
fujikodirect rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)14:07
fujikoOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect14:08
rpj8macd: well, it just seems like when I resize windows in ubuntu vs. in a windows environment, there is much more chunking/less fluid motion.14:08
Amaranthxipietotec: close it out then14:08
loompekdownloading.. and then helping seed14:08
ozgurhi everyone14:08
rpj8macd: I was curious as to why that might be.14:08
Sp0tUbubotu thx -14:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thx - - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:08
magicrobotmonkeyMarcoPau: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page14:08
ozgurneed help14:08
Sp0tUbhehe14:08
Amaranthfujiko: You're either using vesa or need fglrx14:08
ubstudCan anyone help me compile a software?14:08
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macdrpj8, its prolly due to lack of direct rendering on your linux desktop, which you can check via terminal 'glxinfo | grep direct'14:08
Ali_ixfujiko: follow instructions to get your VGA wokring properly :)14:08
fujikoumm i have no clue what vesa or fglrx is14:08
Miinetipirania: doesnt work...14:08
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Ali_ix!ati14:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:08
dooglusubstud: don't type 'make' and 'cc' on the same line like that14:08
PiRANiAubstud: what sowftware?14:08
xipietotecthere's not even a close button the window Amaranth , will xkill stop it?14:08
MarcoPaumagicrobotmonkey: awesome, thanks for now14:08
Picimartin_: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/2153614:08
xet7How can I get 100Hz in 1024x768 screenmode? Ubuntu only shows 85Hz.14:09
zerokMiineti, server? apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade14:09
MarcoPaumacd: thanks to you also14:09
Miinetibu dont mind, ill look it up ^^14:09
ubstudPiRANiA, trans connect14:09
magicrobotmonkeyMarcoPau: good luck!14:09
Amaranthxipietotec: Worst case you get a stale lock file14:09
rpj8macd: narp. direct rendering: Yes14:09
MarcoPaumagicrobotmonkey: knock on wood :)14:09
ubstuddooglus, so I type make, press enter and then start with cc?14:09
Amaranthxipietotec: Just make sure it's downloading and not installing14:09
Amaranthxipietotec: But why do you want to cancel?14:09
dooglusubstud: only type the lines that start '>'14:09
fujikowhere is the instructions for the video card?14:09
macdrpj8, well I guess windows just uses your hardware better in this case.14:09
ac_loompek, d/l is very slow for the moment 2 KB/sec   :-(14:09
dooglusubstud: the 'cc' line will be printed14:09
fooeyis killing an unresponsive distribution upgrade ok?14:09
xipietotecAmaranth, because at this rate I'll have the ISO waaaayyy before I download everything from the Repos.14:09
erUSUL!nvidia > fujiko14:09
loompekac_ that's why i'll help seed later14:09
dectushttp://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent14:09
Ali_ix!ati > fujiko14:09
Amaranthfujiko: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file14:09
xipietotecISO will be done in about an hour, repos are giving me 17 hours.14:09
Amaranth!pastebin | fujiko14:10
rpj8macd: Hehe, I'm not too concerned with that. liek I said, was just curious14:10
Ali_ixfujiko: search your vga model in ubuntuforums.com14:10
Amaranthxipietotec: But the ISO only has a small part of main14:10
macdrpj8, nice :)14:10
fujikopastebin cannot be found14:10
fujikoi don't think i have that installed14:10
pengois ext3 the way to go? and do you still need a swap partition these days?14:10
Amaranthfujiko: It's a website14:10
ubstuddooglus, I just typed "make" alone and I got this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41056/14:11
loompekanyways.. guys.. keep your fingers crossed.. i'm starting to work for a slovenian isp... i hope i'll be able to provide a mirror14:11
Ali_ix!pastebin > fujiko14:11
dectusyea Torrent seems to be working fast: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent14:11
fujikowhat's !pastbin > fujiko mean?14:11
zetherooI want to open a gzip file ..... but I can't14:11
Amaranthfujiko: You should have a message from ubotu14:11
Ali_ix!pastebin | fujiko14:11
Fat_Ferrethey anyone know where the changelog is for 7.10 i cant find it..I mean the detailed one not the press release14:11
PiciAmaranth: bot is lagged/dead/something14:11
Ali_ix!paste | fujiko14:11
ac_loompek, good idea !14:11
pengozetheroo, in ubuntu?14:11
LuigiAny update tips? I have a somewhat complex setup in my opinion (it's probably not ;-), will anything be expected to be broken with the update from 7.04 to 7.10?14:11
dooglusubstud: install package libc6-dev14:11
fujikoso i go to pastebin.com?14:11
Picifujiko: http://www.pastebin.com14:11
zetheroopengo: yes14:12
Ali_ixfujiko: this is a command, the robot will tell you about pastebins14:12
zetheroopengo: Gutsy14:12
Ali_ixubotu is down? :|14:12
ubstudok14:12
PiciAli_ix: yes, we're working on it14:12
fujikosorry i'm quite new to all this14:12
Ali_ixPici: thanx :)14:12
martin_Pici, cheers for that, gnome-network-preferences didn't work, guess i'll try apt.config14:12
mcquaidhmm, i actually can't seem to find much info on update manager.  there's no man.  is there a page for update manager?14:12
Ali_ixfujiko: you will learn quickly ;)14:13
dooglusmcquaid: update-manager --help14:13
dooglusmcquaid: man pages are old-fashioned apparently14:13
fujikoi'm at pastebin.com14:13
mcquaidheh14:13
mcquaidthx14:13
folliahow can I search for wireless network in ubuntu?14:13
maxbHrm, upgraded to Gutsy, and now boot fails - mounting the root device fails with "Device or resource busy", and drops me to an initramfs busybox shell14:14
LuigiWell, man pages give you a general jist of what a command does. info always seems to be messed up in my terminal screen, with litle ?s appearing every few lines.14:14
dooglusfollia: iwlist eth1 scan14:14
magicrobotmonkeyso has network manager been really unstable for anyone else?14:14
foxrayhi where can i get the torrent file for gutsy?14:14
dooglusfollia: or whatever your network interface is14:14
mcquaidhmm, not too many options.  what i'm trying to determine is can i specify a cd source for update manager to use, instead of everything being downloaded14:14
schimmelkin1hey guys. How can i install a *.sh in a terminal with the sudo privileges?14:14
vpalleHi there :) How do I configure the dictionary language, i.e. change it, for gnomes global spelling app14:14
dooglusmaxb: that'll be the new bulletproof startup I was reading about?14:14
fujikoargh okay if the video is the problem what is a good video card that works with ubuntu?14:15
geniimcquaid: man apt-cdrom14:15
mcquaidi'm going to update a couple of machines so why download it twice14:15
folliadoogers, thanx a lot14:15
kondor101can anyone give me an idea of what extra stuff the dvd has over the cd?14:15
geniimcquaid: also aptoncd14:15
mcquaidgenii, yes, i've done that before, but with update manager make use of it?14:15
neopscyheCould anyone help me install xnview?14:15
Luigischimmelkin1 "sh foo.sh" will execute the .sh, is that what you meant?14:15
neopscyheI need to install it from binary or rpm14:15
Ali_ixfujiko: nvidia cards and intel chipset are generally more friendly with linux14:15
geniimcquaid: If you make a cd repo first with aptoncd, you can use apt-cdrom on the client after14:16
Ali_ixneopscyhe: lol! did yoou downloaded teh rpm package?14:16
mcquaidi know i can add a cd source and do dist upgrade via apt/synaptic, but i was under the impression that update manager does other things besides distupgrade to ensure a smooth update14:16
retourHallo! How to install scaner under Ubuntu, simple installation of Xsane and autodetection fails?I know what scanner driver I need but how to force it/insert it?14:16
WaltzingAlong!scanner14:16
Luigineopsyche alien will install RPMs in Ubuntu,partly through APT so they don't contradict anything.14:16
Ali_ixneopscyhe: just type in terminal sudo alien xnview_*****.rpm14:16
schimmelkin1yeah. Thanks Luigi :)14:16
espereguthe 'cannot get release notes' notice.... Is that supose to take some time or is it normal that that is shown immediately?14:16
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dooglusis there any way to get sudo to prompt for a password normally, so it's not echoed when I type it?14:16
zetheroowhy is it that emerald does not change the theme without me having to log off and back on again?14:16
Picidooglus: it never should echo14:17
neopscyheAli_ix: how does terminal know where the file i ssaved?14:17
chervaafter the update my windows partition disapeared pls help when i try to mount it i'm getting this http://pastebin.com/d388be25014:17
kondor101!torrents14:17
LuigiNo problem schimmelkin1 ^.^14:17
linenoiseCan anyone tell me of a 802.11g wireless card that just works under linux?  No ndiswrapper stuff.  I just want to know what the most linux compatible 802.11g pci card is.14:17
esperegukondor101: ?14:17
loompeknice... torrent for x86_64: down:150kb/s up: 60k/s14:17
geniidooglus: Pici is right, it should never echo to terminal14:17
Ali_ixneopscyhe: lol! cd to teh folder you saved file first14:17
dooglusPici: my terminal program turns off echoing when it sees a 'Password:' prompt.  the sudo program in gutsy uses a non-standard password prompt14:17
kondor101i want the torrents for cd and dvd14:17
pengoir this channel usually crazy like this or is it just when there's a release?14:17
trainis there somethign for ubuntu that works as well as parralels for osx?14:17
howlingmadhowiewow :) 1500 people :)14:17
dooglusPici: namely: "[sudo] password for chris:"14:17
erUSUL!torrents > kondor10114:17
Ali_ixneopscyhe: cd /path/to/file/directory/14:17
traindont tell me wine14:17
neopscyheAli_ix: so what do i type?14:17
retourWaltzingAlong: what this command suppose to give me (!scanner)?14:17
kondor101erUSUL ty14:17
esperegutrain: I liked virtualbox14:18
ubotufujiko: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)14:18
magicrobotmonkeypengo: slightly crazier atm14:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is down? : - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:18
* maxb is very very very glad to have refused the upgrader program's offer of removing deprecated packages, including my previous kernel14:18
Ali_ixPici: thanks for ubotu :)14:18
howlingmadhowietrain: i thought parallels was a virtualisation software. in that case, have a look at vmware or qemu14:18
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR14:18
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)14:18
Luigineopsyche you have to be working in the same directory as the RPM.14:18
Luigi|cd | neopsyuche14:18
PiciAli_ix: I'll convey the thanks to the people who fixed it14:18
zetheroois there a way to extend my screen to my LCD Panel?14:18
Luigi!cd | neopsyche14:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:18
Picidooglus: What terminal program are you using?14:18
ubstuddooglus, it's taking a really long time14:19
Luigi?!14:19
ubstuddooglus, could you look over my sources.list?14:19
LuigiTry "man cd" neospyche14:19
Ali_ixLuigi: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors14:19
Ali_ixLuigi: oh! i though you are looking for cd images :)14:19
dooglusubstud: the repositories are probably quite busy now.14:19
gpledtrain: your not going to find anything as polished for linux14:20
neopscyheAli_ix: so first the path .. then sudo alien etc.?14:20
hk_anybody?14:20
vpallecould anyone recommand a bittorrent client (besides azureus..) ?14:20
LuigiNope, just the standard UN*X tool14:20
neopscyhehk_?14:20
Pici!torrent > vpalle (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)14:20
seu_barrigavpalle ktorrent or the text client rtorrent14:20
skyrakerdeluge bittorrent is quite ok14:20
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Ali_ixneopscyhe: yes, and after you ill get a .deb package whick you can install with dpkg -i PACKAGENAME.deb14:20
skyrakerhave to save torrents to disk then open with though14:20
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hk_neopscyhe, I xkilled a non-responsive Distribution Upgrade, and now I can't even start Update Manager14:21
vpallethx all14:21
ThA-LaN-LaWhy14:21
ThA-LaN-LaWhow can i update feisty to gusty from cd?14:21
neopsychehk_ perhaps boot into commandline interface and try to start the install from scratch from there14:21
LuigiWell, I don't know about you guys, but I think I'll be going. Bye!14:22
neopsychebye14:22
hk_neopsyche, is there a guide for that?14:22
neopsychenope14:22
neopsychenot that i know of14:22
neopsyche!command line14:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about command line - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:22
neopsyche!gusty install14:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gusty install - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:22
Pici!cli | neopsyche14:22
arcilwhy isnt there a freenx package in ubuntu?14:22
neopsyche!gutsy install14:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gutsy install - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:22
Pici!botabuse | neopsyche14:22
ubotuneopsyche: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...14:22
chervaafter the update my windows partition disapeared pls help when i try to mount it i'm getting this http://pastebin.com/d388be25014:23
Pici!freenx > arcil (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)14:23
neopsyche!cli14:23
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal14:23
neopsyche!cli | hk_14:23
ubotuhk_: please see above14:23
hk_neopsyche, what's the command to do a distribution upgrade from the cli?14:23
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neopsychehk_: perhaps its an error in gnome.14:24
kidbuntu!splash14:24
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.14:24
neopsychehk_: thats why i mentioned it14:24
cpmokay, rebooting to 7.10, see ya in a bit.14:24
zetheroowhats the IRC chat for compiz-fusion?14:24
Picihk_: follow the server upgrade procedures on the 7.10 release notes14:24
Picizetheroo: #compiz-fusion14:24
DevideZerozetheroo , #ubuntu-effects14:24
drama1981hk_ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:24
hk_Pici, I'll chek them, thanks14:24
zetheroothanks14:24
hk_drama1981, thanks :)14:24
arcilPici: yes i found this website, but i want to know why there is now freenx release in the rep. isnt freenx gpl? or is it too buggy?14:24
billybongoin gutsy, the gnome settings daemon seems to have a few problems14:24
drama1981np14:25
billybongoat least for me14:25
* Toma- hands Pici a cup of tea and a donut *Keep up the good work*14:25
Picidrama1981: That command does not do all the checks that the upgrade manager does.14:25
billybongoretrying with a new user14:25
drama1981Pici my mistake i thought id did14:25
kritzstapfafter burning dvds, my dvd-drive stops working, dmesg says http://phpfi.com/269743, after rebooting the kernel its finde again, how to fix this without rebooting?14:25
jepesguys, how can i enable 3d? i'm on nvidia gpu.14:25
Toma-!upgrade > Toma-14:27
xet7cherva: boot into Windows, fix your disk with "chkdsk /f X:" (where X: is your drive letter), and boot back to Ubuntu14:27
addosis there anyway to encrypt the harddrive from gutsy livecd installer?14:27
ubstuddooglus, are there any other repoistories?14:27
chervaxet7 thx14:27
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Fat_Ferretwhats the difference between the dvd/cd releases of 7.04?14:28
kidbuntu!sources.list14:28
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource14:28
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dareaper/nich tcjew14:28
ubstuddooglus, nvm14:29
jribFat_Ferret: the DVDs have all of the main and restricted repos (which are online anyway)14:29
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GhostFiendQuestion: is 7.10 RC release the same (more or less) than todays release?14:29
GhostFiendI have the alternate RC release and i was going to do the installt oday14:29
Fat_Ferretjrib: thanks14:29
addosjrib: does that also include source?14:29
GhostFiendIm supprised there are not more people in here today14:29
dns_56there may be about 200mb of changes, not sure14:29
Pici!final | GhostFiend14:29
ubotuGhostFiend: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.14:29
jribaddos: not sure but do not think so14:30
dns_56there where lots about 30 minutes ago, even more 2 hours ago at release time14:30
GhostFiendsweet. my second question, I understand that Alternate can do a 'from the harddrive' iso install14:30
tcjew10 minutes to go :)14:30
GhostFiendcan I do this and format the drive?14:30
addosis there anyway to encrypt the harddrive from gutsy livecd installer?14:30
PaulEUaddos: probably yes14:31
dns_56addos: short answer no, use the alternate install, long answer yes if you know the command line tools and know what you are doing14:31
addoshmm, why isn't that built into the gui tools?14:31
dns_56no only in the alternate install console tools14:31
PaulEUaddos: via gui its not possible14:32
Vletaddos: because you haven't written it yet :)14:32
addosha14:32
LuigiOk then, if I'm starting out programming, should I go for C++, Python, Pascal, or BASIC first? Just in general?14:32
GhostFiendvlet heh14:32
Seta-Sanc++14:32
seu_barrigaLuigi, I recommend C14:32
savvaspython!14:32
savvaslol14:32
BWGamesC yes14:32
LuigiAssuming I'm teaching myself with perhaps a few tutorials14:32
kl4mLuigi: that's such a complex question that I'm going to say python14:32
JapsuHaskell!14:32
dns_56bash, python, java, c#14:32
PaulEULuigi: you try java!14:32
lasselasseIs there a way to interupt the update and resume later?14:32
VletLuigi: Pascal and Basic are a little irrelevant these days... C/++ or python or yeah, java are quite relevant14:33
GhostFienddoes anyone have experience with a harddrive iso install?14:33
ccrt#ubuntu-cn14:33
PaulEUlasselasse: yes, press button Cancel14:33
Fat_Ferretomg all these mirrors are swamped anybody getting more than 40k?14:33
dns_56lasselasse not recomended as you will have some things partly installed14:33
kst-how do I enable the ctrl-cursor function so I can skip through text with cursor not just letter by letter but also word by word?14:33
VletGhostFiend: You mean installing ubuntu off a burnt copy of the iso14:33
kl4mIs there a page listing the differences between 7.10 RC and release?14:33
kl4mBecause they're not the same md514:33
savvasLuigi: bash, html, css, php, python, C and stop there :P14:33
GhostFiendVlet, no, i mean loading the iso into ram at boot and installing14:33
dns_56Fat_Ferret: the iso? there are bittorrents around14:34
GhostFiendfrom the harddrive14:34
zbrownOk, I'm going to go ahead and ask the obvious, how does 7.10 compare to 7.04?14:34
pengoLuigi, i'd say python too if i had to pick one14:34
antiPosixhow do I know if my video card is compiz compatable?  I have 7.10 installed, how do I make it do that cube trick14:34
amadeuxWhat is the kosher way up upgrading from feisty to gutsy?14:34
K-Richdoes the ubuntu-desktop meta package need to be installed for an upgrade?14:34
GhostFiendI understand you can do it by adding the approprate entries into grub,14:34
LuigiI guess it's between C++ and Python, then.  What exactly can Python do? I know of osme of its capabilities, but what does it really DO, in general use?14:34
savvaszbrown: slower at the first loading, but much more beautiful14:34
Fat_Ferretyeh the iso's from the sites main mirrors are slow.. I will search for a torrent14:34
VertelemmingI'm having trouble setting up a RAID1 using the Alternate CD. Anyone familiar with the process who can tell me what I'm doing wrong?14:34
kl4manti what is your card, is it less than 3 years old?14:34
kidbuntuis 7.10 already released?14:34
zbrownsavvas: hmmm only the initial loading? Is it at all faster afterwards?14:34
jimmacdonaldyes14:34
zetheroowhat happened to the emerald-themes package ???14:34
zbrownkidbuntu: yes14:35
antiPosixkl4m: its a NVidia GForce MX 400014:35
dns_567.10 was released about 2 hours ago14:35
PiciLuigi: This is offtopic, please ask in either #ubuntu-offtopic or ##programming14:35
Luigi!gutsy | kibbuntu14:35
ubotukibbuntu: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents14:35
eriksWhere should i post my xorg.conf questions? Its regarding nvidia go44014:35
san|who develops the open source ati drivers?14:35
amadeuxLuigi: C++ and Python both rock, in their own respects. You need both14:35
kidbuntuzbrown: how can i upgrade to 7.10. i'm on 7.04. nothing shows up on my update manager even after updating everything14:35
san|and where can I contact them?14:35
rcatwoodhelp installing: the installer starts but then cannot find its own cdrom? I am sure14:35
Pici!upgrade | zbrown14:35
ubotuzbrown: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes14:35
zbrownPici: wrong person14:35
zbrown!upgrade | kidbuntu14:36
LuigiOh, sorry Pici, I thought the only channel for this was the development channel, which I didn't feel like bothering with my questions. Sorry, bye!14:36
rcatwoodi am sure I saw this before now I forgot how to figure it otu14:36
ubotukidbuntu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes14:36
PiciLuigi: #ubuntu+1 forwards here.14:36
GhostFiendwhere do i go to turn on compiz now? desktop effects is no longer listed under system14:36
Pici!ccsm | GhostFiend14:36
ubotuGhostFiend: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz14:36
zetheroowhy is the emerald-themes package no longer in Synaptic???14:36
savvaszbrown: well, I've changed my computer from sempron 2500+ to core 2 duo, so I can't comment on that for sure :\ mine is faster :P14:36
dns_56+1 has been decommissioned till they start working on the next release14:36
Npupgrade14:37
savvasGhostFiend: appearance > visual effects14:37
VletI'm _sure_ this has been asked a billion times, so I'm sorry in advance: update-manager --dist-upgrade seems to think my system is up to date... que pasa?14:37
fractal2my brother has a sempron processor on his compaq laptop14:37
zzuhCould anyone suggest a link to acquire the Gutsy via torrents?14:37
Pici!upgrade | Vlet14:37
zetheroowhy is the emerald-themes package no longer in Synaptic???14:37
ubotuVlet: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes14:37
Pici!torrents | zzuh14:37
ubotuzzuh: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)14:37
dns_56Vlet have you changed your sources and done a apt-get update first?14:37
zbrownsavvas: heh14:37
savvasVlet: do this and click the check button: update-manager -d14:37
trezwhat does "NET: Registered  protocol family 1714:37
trez" mean?14:37
Picidns_56: That method is not reccomended.14:37
zbrownsavvas: hmmm I need to find a review14:38
harnirhi14:38
Vletdns_56: No, I was under the impression that "update-manager --dist-upgrade" would update the sources for you.14:38
harnirhow's new ubuntu?14:38
savvaszbrown: it's still fresh out of the oven, you might want to wait some days to get a professional opinion14:38
WorkingOnWisewheres #ubuntu+114:38
Vletsavvas: Thanks :)14:39
WaltzingAlongWorkingOnWise: ubuntu+1 should be 8.04 now but points here for a bit yet14:39
kidbuntuhow long does it take to upgrade to 7.10?14:39
idefixI got the last mousemat of the store (and still use a ball mouse wahahahaa!)14:39
PovAddictlol, mirrors down14:39
kidbuntufrom the net14:39
savvasWorkingOnWise: no more :P14:39
PovAddictseems this release will be just as bad14:39
xsteelwolfHOw14:39
VertelemmingAnyone here who knows anything about setting up a RAID1 on Gutsy?14:39
Vletkidbuntu: I just started, so I'll tell you when it's done :)14:39
xsteelwolfHow do i use compiz cube?14:39
Jeruvykidbuntu: about 20 minutes14:39
zbrownsavvas: ya, there's a good chance i won't be installing, but I thought I'd see how it was from peopel's points of view14:39
kidbuntuhow long does it take to upgrade to 7.10 from the net with ay 384kbps?14:39
PovAddictkidbuntu: it depends which mirror you're using+14:39
vlowtherhmmm... compiz fusion not honoring the metacity keybindings.14:39
MartinWI"m upgrading now and I'm fetching files. But the server is slow. Will my computer break if I cancel the upgrade now?14:39
* vlowther thought that was fixed.14:39
Seta-Sanhow do you upgrade to 7.10 from the console. i've got the server edition14:39
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PovAddictMartinW: no14:39
MartinWThanks14:40
vsayikiranis it possiblle a .vbs script to execute in ubuntu14:40
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savvaszbrown: Icons changed, compiz out of the box, sweet as ever if you ask me14:40
vsayikiranplease i think a virus is affecting my pen drive14:40
dns_56vsayikiran: there are a few tools. what does the script do?14:40
WorkingOnWiseWaltzingAlong: awwww comon! Modt of my cuts are healed from Gutsy! Bring on the bleedage! I want (um...forgot the "H" name..) 8.04.8-)14:40
xsteelwolfHow do i use compiz cube?14:40
pengoi'm running warty while waiting for gutsy.. am i oldskool or what?14:40
kl4mIs anyone on the torrent right now? I'm not sure if BT is blocked at work14:40
WorkingOnWisemotd=most14:40
Pici!bot ccsm xsteelwolf14:40
Picier14:41
Vletvsayikiran: Not really... you might be able to run it in Wine. You could definitely use VirtualBox to run windows inside ubuntu and run it, but that's pretty much it14:41
Philo06I'm currently on the Unbuntu 7.10 live cd and can't get the installer to partition. It states that it cannot write changes to hdd and an error might have occured. I am trying to use Gparted and it lockes up at "Scanning all devices."14:41
PovAddictvsayikiran: probably not, but still, I guess the vbs is using Windows-specific features14:41
Seveaspengo, :)14:41
vsayikirandns_56: a windows virus has created  a .vbs file14:41
Pici!ccsm > xsteelwolf (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)14:41
zbrownsavvas: mmm see the visual aspects are not of any concern to me. I just need to be able to access my console, epiphany/firefox and thunderbird, oh and TeXMaker14:41
WaltzingAlong!upgrading | Seta-San14:41
ubotuSeta-San: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes14:41
Philo06How am I suppoed to create a partition so I can keep windows?14:41
ShinaryAnyone have a link to download the torrent, the main site seems very slugish.14:41
vsayikiranplease i am true,14:41
zbrownsavvas: beyond that, the development tools are my interest. I want something stable and fast14:41
LjL!torrents | Shinary14:41
ubotuShinary: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs)14:41
xsteelwolfDownloading now thanks14:41
Shinaryoh, thank you.14:41
vsayikirani deleted everything form the pendrive but after i remountd everyhting reappeared14:41
JeruvyPhilo06: you should run diagnostics on your drives, ensure there are no errors on them.14:42
PovAddictLjL: but both of those links are really slow14:42
Philo06Jeruvy, How do I do that?14:42
Philo06Windows seems to run fine.14:42
vsayikiranhow can a windows virus file reappear after remounting pendrive14:42
dns_56vsayikiran: delete it from the trash, normally delete puts it in a .trash (hidden folder)14:42
xsteelwolfAll mirrors are freaking slow now14:42
xsteelwolflol14:42
savvaszbrown: although I'm an ubuntu fan, maybe debian or opensuse would be better for you then, they have better "support" for developers and programmers14:42
LjLPovAddict: just add a two-letters country code at the start of the address. fr.releases.ubuntu.com for instance.14:42
nerdygirl_ellieDumb question here, is it appropriate to move gutsy questions to #ubuntu now?14:42
xsteelwolf!ccsm14:42
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz14:42
vsayikirandns_56: i shift-deleted it14:42
Picinerdygirl_ellie: this is #ubuntu14:42
GhostFiendhow do I start the effect i just enabled in compizconfig?14:43
dns_56this is #ubuntu14:43
Picinerdygirl_ellie: +1 forwards here.14:43
kl4mShinary: here's a mirror http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/7.10/14:43
PovAddicttime to load some torrents14:43
nerdygirl_ellieexcellent!14:43
savvasGhostFiend: check the keyboard shortcuts14:43
PovAddict-desktop torrents would be the most requested, right?14:43
xsteelwolfwhat's some nice download accelerator to use for ubuntu14:43
PovAddictall I want is to seed14:43
PovAddictxsteelwolf: if you don't fear the command line interface, use aria214:43
lacyc3rere14:43
VletPovAddict: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent14:43
zbrownsavvas: I suspect you're right14:43
makatolcan s1 help14:43
xsteelwolfis there anyway to make wget support multiple threads?14:43
makatolwhat should i add in the fstab to mount a network folder at boot up14:43
Philo06I'm not sure Ill be able to use Windows because of the attempt to resize. How can I check the hdd from here?14:44
PovAddictxsteelwolf: no, get aria2 for that :P14:44
xsteelwolf!fstab14:44
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions14:44
scriptdevilif ubuntu and xubuntu use the same repos, why does the delay time differ?14:44
eriks!xgl14:44
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager14:44
vsayikirandns_56: thanx dns you were write14:44
PovAddictxsteelwolf: aria2 http://mirror1/blah.iso http://mirror2/blah.iso ...14:44
xsteelwolfHow do i read nat format?14:44
Fat_Ferretyaaay torrents are coming in at 1.2MBs thanks14:44
scriptdevilif ubuntu and xubuntu use the same repos, why does the *release* time differ?14:44
JeruvyPhilo06: best bet is to get a diagnostic tool from your drives manufacturer and use that.14:44
guilinfdhi14:44
vsayikirandns_56 how should i format pendrive14:44
makatol/192.168.0.2/123   /media/share smbfs    0    014:44
f0rgeIf`stormanyone experiencing slow speed at upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?14:44
Piciscriptdevil: because xubuntu uses different base packages14:44
guilinfdhellp14:44
Pici!ask14:44
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)14:45
f0rgeIf`stormslow download speed*14:45
guilinfdhello14:45
xsteelwolf<f0rgeIf`storm>, me14:45
Jeruvyf0rgeIf`storm: not on this side of the planet14:45
WorkingOnWiseI kinda feel slighted....today is my birthday and I was really stoked for the release of Gutsy. I been running Gutsy for a while and knew that there wouldn't be a whole lot for me today...but nothing! You devs could have at least shown me an Update Available in Update Manager and a foo dummy a foo dummy package...changed system monitor to dislay 7.10 final...anything. Feel like I sot early... :-(14:45
f0rgeIf`stormk14:45
vsayikiranplease anyone tell me how to format pendrive14:45
hrntf0rgeIf`storm: i guess it depends on your mirror. i got mine about 7-10 megabytes / sec14:45
Philo06Funny since Windows installs fine and if I install Ubuntu alone it is fine.14:45
f0rgeIf`stormmine is all from 20kb-250kb14:45
Philo06I wonder if it is the installer and Gparted.14:45
f0rgeIf`storm-.-14:45
scriptdevilPici: but what about the rest? like can I upgrade to the latest firefox?14:45
f0rgeIf`stormmeh14:45
savvasf0rgeIf`storm: there are some hundreds of people downloading, patience is the key ;)14:45
xsteelwolfI see that most of you reply with the person username, is there a fast way to do it other than copy/paste14:45
NeanTcan I have in Gnome different wallpapers for different desktops like in KDE ?14:45
Philo06Is there another Partitioner I can try?14:45
f0rgeIf`stormI guess so14:46
Piciscriptdevil: I dont know, you can ask in #xubuntu though14:46
f0rgeIf`stormno possible way to change mirror?14:46
WaltzingAlongxsteelwolf: typically start typing then name/nick then tab14:46
f0rgeIf`stormthta means canseling the upgrade tho14:46
PovAddictxsteelwolf: on most clients, type first few letters of name then tab, just like in bash ;)14:46
scriptdevilvsayikiran: http://sathyasays.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/formatting-usb-pen-drive-in-linux-using-terminal/14:46
f0rgeIf`stormso I guess that wont work14:46
savvasf0rgeIf`storm: no idea, I did a clean install, got the iso directly14:46
xsteelwolfoh i see..14:46
dotzHi.14:46
PovAddictf0rgeIf`storm: I *think* the half-downloaded files will stay there14:46
dotzWhat souftware should I use to do furniture planning in Linux? :)14:46
PovAddictf0rgeIf`storm: so you'd actually resume it14:46
f0rgeIf`stormaha14:47
f0rgeIf`stormic14:47
f0rgeIf`stormty14:47
vsayikiranscriptdevil: i am unable to delete virus files from my pendrive since it is write protected14:47
xsteelwolfis there any gui download accelerator to recommend?14:47
Vletf0rgeIf`storm: the upgrade will use whatever mirror you have selected in your software sources control panel14:47
kl4mguilinfd: Just ask your question. There is a lot of traffic here and no time for chatting (except now)14:47
dotzxsteelwolf: lftp :)14:47
vsayikiranscriptdevil: i am unable to delete virus files from my pendrive since it is write protected14:47
MalachiAnyone have a mirror of the desktop torrent?14:47
zetheroowhy can't I open any gzip files???14:47
espereguthe 'cannot get release notes' notice.... Is this normal? I keep getting it. (It shows up immidiately... no time-out or something)14:47
PovAddictxsteelwolf: there is DownloadThemAll, a download accelerrator in a firefox plugin :P14:48
WorkingOnWiseguess I'll go have my birthday breakfast now...nothin to break with new packages here! Now I know y mom never let me open xmas gifts in November!14:48
kl4mPovAddict, xsteelwolf: the name is downthemall14:48
savvaszetheroo: sudo apt-get install gzip14:48
vsayikirani am not able to delete virus files permanently14:48
zetheroosavvas: its already installed14:48
PovAddictfor some reason it sounds like DownTheMall but it's DownThemAll14:48
Vletvsayikiran: In ubuntu or windows?14:48
Picivsayikiran: make sure that you eject the device, dont just unplug it14:48
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Philo06Is there any other partitioner I can use to create a partition on Ubuntu?14:49
savvaszetheroo: gzip -d yourfile14:49
VletPhilo06: gparted?14:49
PiciPhilo06: other than??14:49
vsayikiranVlet: from ubuntu14:49
nerdygirl_ellieHi.  When I set system-> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects to "extra" or "normal", my window headers and borders disappear.  That is.. the bar at the top with the window title and the Minimize-restore-close buttons, and the frame around each window disappears.  How can I correct that?14:49
Philo06Yes.14:49
Philo06I've tried Gparted and it never finishes the scan.14:49
maxowhen I try to upgrade ubuntu using the Update Manager, it pauses on 'Fetching file 19 of 42'. Is this normal?14:49
vsayikiranPici: when i try to eject , it shows cannnot eject14:49
Vletvsayikiran: You have a windows virus in ubuntu?14:49
kl4mPovAddict: I read it as "down the mall" too first14:49
vsayikiranVlet: yes14:49
Picivsayikiran: are you running anything thats on the drive?14:50
digitalspaghettiHas anyone had problems with the Aptana plugin for Eclipse 3.2 since upgrading to 7.10?14:50
xsteelwolfI just installed ccsm,how do i do cube effect14:50
LiMaOnerdygirl_ellie: after you enable the effetcs, restart the window manager by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace14:50
vsayikiranPiCi: i am not running anything14:50
maxodigitalspaghetti: I don't use the eclipse bundled with ubuntu, because it kept crashing, I used the eclipse from their website14:50
nerdygirl_ellieLiMaO: Ty, brb, testing.14:50
Picivsayikiran: not even a terminal window opened and in that directory?14:50
digitalspaghettimaxo, i might have to :/14:51
zetheroosavvas:  gzip: emerald: unknown suffix -- ignored14:51
hetaumaxsteelwolf, enable desktop cube and cube rotate. then go to general options and set horizontal 4 vertical 1 and desktops 114:51
vsayikiranPici: i deleted everything , after which i unmounted the pendrive , then i remounted all viruses reappear14:51
maxodigitalspaghetti: when you upgraded, did it pause on 'Fetching file 19 of 42' for ages?14:51
ProN00bshould i upgrade now or wait ?14:51
digitalspaghettimaxo, nope14:51
savvaszetheroo: what file are you trying to decompress? .tar.gz ?14:51
Fracturein a clean install for gutsy, System -> Administration -> Screens and Graphics didn't work properly for my nvidia card with 2 monitors.  I setup the monitors right, then re-logged in.  each monitor scrolled about 1cm when I pushed the mouse at the edge of the screen.  also, desktop effects don't work.   I reverted to my hand crafted xorg.conf file form feisty, and its working again as well as with desktop effects.14:51
VletProN00b: Up to you14:51
digitalspaghettiit was a pretty smooth upgrade maxo14:51
cpm7.10 no joy. Oh well.14:51
kl4mProN00b: if you want to get proper download speed wait a day or two14:51
LiMaOnerdygirl_ellie: worked?14:52
nerdygirl_ellieLiMaO: negative, still no window titles.14:52
digitalspaghettithe error i'm getting is Unable to create view: Plug-in "com.aptana.ide.core.ui" was unable to instantiate class "com.aptana.ide.core.ui.AptanaNavigator".14:52
zetheroosavvas: how do I know what type of file it is?14:52
maxodigitalspaghetti: it's paused on 'Fetching file 19 of 42' but I don't know what it's doing, there's no verbose feedback, nothing14:52
Philo06Nobody knows of a different partitioner?14:52
Picivsayikiran: Delete the files using shift-delete14:52
LiMaOhmm that's weird.. and bad14:52
ProN00bkl4m, my line gets 90kb/s down, will i get at least half of that ?14:52
LiMaOnerdygirl_ellie: have you tried clicking where the title should be?14:52
maxodigitalspaghetti: try restarting eclipse, sometimes it does strange stuff like that14:52
VletI'm getting 7M/sec off mirror.cc.columbia.edu14:52
LiMaOi know it may hide titlebar for inative (or out of focus) windows14:52
kl4mProN00b: using a mirror, probably. On the main site, not so sure14:52
digitalspaghettimaxo, already tried14:52
digitalspaghettii think i'll just grab europa instead14:53
generalsnusGuys.. just installed 7.10 smoothly..  i have nvidia 8800gtx graphics.. used restricted driver...  where can i get the nvidia control panel?  too change fan speed and such?14:53
xsteelwolf<Shift><Super>Button114:53
xsteelwolfwhat's super button114:53
savvaszetheroo: what is the file's name ?14:53
maxodigitalspaghetti: uninstall aptana, then reinstall?14:53
zetheroosavvas: emerald14:53
Gun_SmokeAny idea when https://help.ubuntu.com/ will be up to date?14:53
Vletgeneralsnus: I believe you need to install the proprietary driver off nvidia's site14:53
vsayikiranPici: i tried evrything, after delelting files in properties it show no content , if i unmount a message comes cannot eject, after i unplug the pendrive and remount it then all virus files reappear14:53
generalsnusav14:53
pommerhi... how do i get colored nicks on xchat?14:53
savvaszetheroo: does it open with archive manager?14:53
generalsnusis there no way of installing just the nvidia control panel?14:54
kantorhi, the Ubuntu DVD releases are not supported officially ? because from the ubuntu homepage only the CD images are available for download14:54
vsayikiranPici: this is a serious problem, some viruses are still active in ubuntu14:54
hetaumaxsteelwolf, suber is the key with m$ logo and button 1 is the left click14:54
kl4mVlet: columbia seems to still have the RC14:54
vsayikiranPici: how can virus file reappear after deleteing everything14:54
zetheroosavvas: in the properties of the file it says Type: gzip archive...... yes it opens with archive manager... well does not open.... just when I double-click it Archive manager will open and then give me an error14:54
psypher246HAPPY UBUNTU DAY EVERYONE!!!!! PLease can somebody send me the md5 hash for x86 desktop cd, site not updated14:54
Vletgeneralsnus: Perhaps there isn't but I'm doubtful14:55
Skeeshubotu, what times these are that a man cannot hold another man's scrotum in the palm of his hand as an act of friendship without risking being called a member of the homosexual community?14:55
madrazrHi all14:55
savvaspsypher246: http://releases.ubuntu.com14:55
PovAddictSkeesh: O_O14:55
vsayikiranwindows virus affecting ubuntu serious flaw14:55
Skeeshit doesn't know the answer :(14:55
madrazrHappy GUTSY RELEASE DAY14:55
kl4mvsayikiran: If you "delete" the file then disconnect the usb key unproperly the changes may not have been written14:55
zetheroosavvas: oh thats so silly..... I just renamed the file to .tar.gz and it works14:55
fastguys, i need help, i try to install 7.10, it boots, after i choose to install i cant see anything on my wide lcd, whats the problem?14:56
Philo06Can I use Fdisk or Cfdisk?14:56
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DanoCongrats on 7.10!14:56
xsteelwolfm$?14:56
Fracturewhen oh when will linux change to using a wav (or mp3) sound for the default beep14:56
PovAddictdownloading at 23KB/s14:56
xsteelwolfshift+4?14:56
digitalspaghettimaxo it won't let me un-install, but it will let me re-install.  i'll give it a try14:56
madrazrcan somebody tell me when the REPO will be enabled fully14:56
PocketBrai1Try booting in Safe mode, fast14:56
vsayikirankl4m: but after deleting there are no content14:56
gnomefreakvsayikiran: its almost impossible for a win virus to effect ubuntu (maybe running a win server but ubuntu file system wouldnt be touched just your one dir for the server14:56
PovAddictew, did I just click the wrong button14:56
Vletkl4m: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/dists/gutsy/Release14:56
ArmedKingFracture: Why would it?14:56
xsteelwolfHow do i turn a cube looking it in 3d? im only able to flip  between desktop14:56
fastin safe more, it hangs somewhere.. the pc speaker is beeping14:56
FractureArmedKing: because the PC speaker SUX14:56
kl4mpsypher246: http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/7.10/MD5SUMS14:57
PovAddictxsteelwolf: ctrl-alt-dragYourDesktop14:57
zetheroosavvas: thanks for your help though.... by the way do you know why the emerald-themes package is not in Synaptic anymore?14:57
FractureArmedKing: and its at a fairly loud volumne14:57
PocketBrai1fast: boot in safe mode, disable special features in video, make sure you have available applicable resolutions.14:57
PocketBrai1well dang.14:57
savvaszetheroo: sudo apt-get install p7zip-full14:57
ArmedKingFracture: Plenty of howtoś out there to fix that all you need is google14:57
vsayikirangnomefreak: see i deleted virus file , then i remounted it how can the virus files reappear14:57
psypher246thanks dude, the sites are so slow right now DAMN!14:57
savvaszetheroo: after that: 7z x emerald14:57
mik3anyone have a quick link on instructions to dist-upgrade to gutsy?14:57
kst-how do I enable the ctrl-cursor function so I can skip through text with cursor not just letter by letter but also word by word? did I break something or is this not possible in Ubuntu in general?14:57
savvaszetheroo: if that doesn't work try: 7za x emerald14:57
xsteelwolfPovAddict, still 2d,not 3d yet14:57
eriksDo you guys think its important to have antivirus on a linux desktop?14:57
FractureArmedKing: I know how to turn it off (the system beep, or make it a visual beep) but, why can't a neat distro like ubuntu use a sound card by default ?14:57
mik3eriks : no14:57
gnomefreakvsayikiran: linux doesnt have any active virus' atm14:57
PovAddicteriks: it wouldn't have anything to detect14:58
Vlet!upgrade | mik314:58
ubotumik3: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes14:58
Philo06I'm using Fdisk and its stating this: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 14593.14:58
Philo06There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,14:58
mik3thanks vlet14:58
tale__anybody have the torrent for x86 desktop for 7.10 release?14:58
kavoorany idea when repos will be opened for gutsy ???14:58
Philo06Is this an issue?14:58
zetheroosavvas: thanks... I just renamed the file to .tar.gz and it worked14:58
gnomefreakand hasnt had for sometime14:58
drrngrvyHey all, I'm in a sticky situation. MS broke my PC and locked out grub. At the moment, I can see all my linux files through windows (using Ext2 IFS) so is there any way I can just run a program and get grub to work again? Note: I can't make a liveCD anytime soon.14:58
fastmate, i have a 22 inch lcd, 8800 gts, i have kinda all resolutions, 4GB ram also.. dual x 64...  where can i see those switches for boot?14:58
savvaszetheroo: ok :)14:58
vsayikiranvirus files allow me to delete and after deleting there are zero contents, but the moment i remount , all files reappear14:58
tale__site is timing out for me14:58
PovAddictthe only antiviruses for linux are those that scan for Windows-based viruses, to run on mailservers for example14:58
nerdygirl_elliemik3: update-manager -c14:58
Javiddrrngrvy, why not?14:58
Vletvsayikiran: Format the drive14:58
gnomefreaknerdygirl_ellie: no -c14:58
Javiddrrngrvy, you could make a live USB drive14:58
zetheroosavvas: do you know why the emerald-themes package is no longer in Synaptic?14:58
ArmedKingFracture: Maby to still give some use to it haha14:58
mik3nerdygirl_ellie : what's apt and CLI pwns you14:58
ArmedKingFracture: :p14:58
mik3errr -what's14:58
vsayikirangnomefreak: is there a possibility that the boot loader of pendrive itself may be affected14:59
drrngrvyJavid: Yeah? I don't see how my PC can boot using USB14:59
savvaszetheroo: no idea14:59
drrngrvyhmmm, maybe it can14:59
Javiddrrngrvy, that's between you and your PC14:59
drrngrvy:)14:59
FractureArmedKing: lol.. there are other ways to give use to it - BIOS memory check faiures ... that's enough for me :)14:59
Vletvsayikiran: format the drive14:59
gnomefreakvsayikiran: what filesystem is pendrive14:59
PovAddictdrrngrvy: I saw my PC trying to boot from an iPod once14:59
vsayikirangnomefreak; the pendrive is marked boot14:59
Javiddrrngrvy, but messing with grub is your only real option here14:59
vsayikirangnomefreak: vfat14:59
zetheroosavvas: hmmm..... its really silly because you can get emerald but with no themes....14:59
kantorhi, the Ubuntu DVD releases are not supported officially ? because from the ubuntu homepage only the CD images are available for download14:59
JavidPovAddict, I've seen that too, tis fun14:59
xsteelwolfHow do i turn a cube looking it in 3d? im only able to flip  between desktop14:59
ArmedKingFracture: Tru ;-) Maby something to add to the todo list for next release14:59
drrngrvyJavid: the question is can I do that through windows?14:59
gnomefreakvsayikiran: format it will fix it14:59
bird_hi15:00
vsayikirangnomefreak: from windows it is write disabled15:00
Javiddrrngrvy, why can't you make a livecd?15:00
nerdygirl_elliemik3: well if you want it that way, then you put all the new repositiories in your sources list and do an apt-get dist-upgrade, but no sooner than I post that someone will uboto whack me saying "do it with update manager"15:00
PovAddictxsteelwolf: enable rotate cube plugin15:00
Javiddrrngrvy, can you burn CDs at all?15:00
xsteelwolfIt's enable15:00
xsteelwolfbut it's not 3d15:00
drrngrvyJavid: nope15:00
Javidhmmm15:00
Javiddrrngrvy, floppies?15:00
drrngrvyno floppy drive15:00
drrngrvyhehe15:00
gnomefreakvsunless you installed something with the virus on it its impossible to get a virus on it15:00
MrBisterHow long will the CD install take from where I select Install during inital boot? Been waiting for 20 minutes now and I can't even move the mouse..15:00
mik3nerdygirl_ellie : i pretty much never use any gui for maintaining any of my boxes, ubuntu or other15:01
JavidI'm fairly certain you're out of luck then15:01
MrBisterIt reads from CD and writes to disk, but almost dead..15:01
savvaszetheroo: a simple google search 'emerald themes' solves that: http://themes.beryl-project.org/themes.php?cat=615:01
Javidcan't you go burn a disk at a library or something?15:01
nerdygirl_elliemik3: do you need the new list of repositories?15:01
Javiddrrngrvy, http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/15:01
drrngrvyJavid: I've got a drive on the way, I just hoped there was a more direct way.15:01
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mik3nerdygirl_ellie : yeah i do please, unless i can use the drop down switch at the source-o-matic15:01
drrngrvyJavid: excellent!15:01
kl4mvsayikiran: Told you already; If you "delete" the file then disconnect the usb key unproperly the changes may not have been written15:01
gnomefreakJavid: hard to do, do you have a flashdrive ormem stick type something with you that is ~around 1gig (assuming you have other stuff on it15:02
Javidif you can get your system to boot off USB, there's directions for making a bootable flashdrive there15:02
xsteelwolfPovAddict, what i'm talking about is this effect >http://compiz.org/Image:FrontpageImage.jpg15:02
zetheroosavvas: yah... I know you can manually install themes... but before you would get a slew of them bundled...15:02
digitalspaghettidammit, 7.10 has fecked up my Eclipse install :(15:02
Vletmik3: Why not just do a find/replace on your sources.list to replace 'feisty' with 'gutsy' :)15:02
savvaszetheroo: I think you're supposed to import the themes with the import button, not to extract them yourself15:02
PiciVlet: Thats not reccomended.15:02
zetheroosavvas: anyhow ... I love Gutsy.....15:02
Javidgnomefreak, yes I do15:02
mik3vlet: i didn't know if the repository servers changed15:02
VletPici: oh... why?15:02
mik3i'll do that now15:02
zetheroosavvas: have you had any experience with the screen extension feature?15:02
externhow to install ati x700 pro drivers on gutsy?15:02
Javidgnomefreak, I wasn't asking anything though, but I am going to need to install off USB in the near future15:02
PiciVlet: Because there are certain things that the upgrade managers do that just dist-upgrading doesnt.15:02
Vletmik3: See Pici's note... not a good idea15:03
PovAddictxsteelwolf: enable rotate cube plugin15:03
gnomefreaksave it to mem stick and when you get home tranfer it to a dir on system and burn it :)15:03
nerdygirl_ellie!pastebin15:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)15:03
xsteelwolfyea already did15:03
kl4mPici: is there a source explaining those things?15:03
Javidbecause pasting five lines of text kills kittens15:03
savvaszetheroo: run this: emerald-theme-manager and click on the import button15:03
gnomefreakJavid: ah ok i thought you wanted to know how to burn lib. pc15:03
Picimik3: if you need to upgrade with the command line, follow the server upgrade instructions.15:03
Pici!upgrade | kl4m15:03
ubotukl4m: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes15:03
kl4mPici: except the actual source code15:03
gnomefreakbrb reboot15:03
savvaszetheroo: no idea what screen extension is15:03
savvas:)15:03
VletPici: I see, so it's not so much altering the sources in that way that would be bad... it's that the gui tool does more than apt alone will?15:03
xsteelwolfPovAddict, even after enable and i ctrl+alt+drag i only get 2 sides stickign to one another ,not 3d15:03
PiciVlet: Exactly15:04
zetheroosavvas: I am trying not to use emerald becasue it was unstable on my system15:04
VletPici: good to know :)15:04
nerdygirl_elliemik3: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41061/15:04
ugu hello. i've installed ubuntu gutsy on 2 pcs yesterday and they both show no splash screen and take a long time to boot, unless I remove the splash and quiet parameters from grub. what could be wrong?15:04
san|where can I check whether a ati card is supported by their official drivers?15:04
savvaszetheroo: then why do you complain about the emerald-themes? :P15:04
PovAddictxsteelwolf: maybe you need to *disable* some other plugin that does the flat dragging15:05
PovAddictxsteelwolf: also, check the key combinations on rotate plugin settings15:05
zetheroosavvas: because its a minus and not a plus..... 'tis all....15:05
JavidAnyone here have experience making a USB drive into an installer? Is it overly difficult?15:05
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pdlnhrdi am getting this error  "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2"   is there a way to find this particular package.  i searched for the package but can't find that exact version..15:06
Madsmegno experience, but i dont think its hard15:06
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xbeanxhrm, my desktop effects no longer work in 7.10 .. what log file can I look at to figure out why?15:06
Seta-Sanit's your video driver15:06
Seta-Sanupdate it15:06
Vletpdlnhrd: What application are you trying to run?15:06
mik3what does update-manager-core do compared to just hand editing sources.list for a dist-upgrade15:06
saretta^-^ubuntu-it15:06
kantorwhere are the UBUNTU 7.10 DVD releases ?15:07
pdlnhrdVlet: it is my coldfusion server... it gets the error using jikesw15:07
Picimik3: There are certain things that need to be migrated for 7.10 that apt cannot do.15:07
Gun_SmokeI forget the file... But you just need to open it with an editor and write save it.. Then try again... Anyone know what I'm talking about?15:07
mik3pico ah15:07
mik3ok15:07
ZampaktuCONGRATULATIONS to everybody on this great release15:07
PovAddict4400 peers on the torrent15:08
PovAddictI'm getting lame speed15:08
kantorwhere are the UBUNTU 7.10 DVD releases ?15:08
kantorwhere are the UBUNTU 7.10 DVD releases ?15:08
kl4mkantor: stop15:08
Baikonur_in norway15:08
bazhangIs there no more #ubuntu+1? that bookmark brought me here.15:08
Picibazhang: correct.15:08
ericrostnow that gutsy's live, how long until the dev's release the restricted modules package for the only kernel they have headers for in the repo?15:08
san|bazhang: redirected :)15:09
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bazhangPici: thanks!15:09
Alex_GaynorI'm using the ubuntu 7.10 beta, but do-release-upgrade says there aer no new releases, is this correct?15:09
kantorkl4m, I can find only the daily build DVD's15:09
FenrirHey15:09
newguyhey what is the default kernel for gutsy, after installing it ive got two kernel entrys in the grub boot loader menu, a .14 and .16 version15:09
sam55Anyone: when exactly was Gutsy released then today?15:09
LiMaOit was released today. period.15:09
Seta-Sanaround 7AM US CENTRAL15:10
bazhangsan|: thanks!15:10
sam55ah, ok.15:10
SirBob1701Guys i'm up on gutsy and all my virtual terminals go fried on the upgrade.  how do i get them back?15:10
san|where can I check whether a ati card is supported by their official drivers?15:10
k1gwbthat's a few hours earlier than fesity came out :)15:10
newguywhat kernel version does gutsy use?15:10
sam55The time stamps on the webpage: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/, are they Eastern?15:10
SirBob1701newguy: 2.6.22-14-15:11
ericrostoy, looked at my pm and for some reason linux-restricted-module-generic was unmarked.. now wonder I've been pinned at the -12 verson..15:11
newguyahh ok, so should i remove the .16 kernel version?15:11
xsteelwolf# group and tab :  select window with super-s, group with super-t, ungroup with super-u15:11
FenrirI am hoping to install ubuntu on a second drive (first drive is xp) , will i need to use an antivirus on the ubuntu hd15:11
Fenrir?15:11
xsteelwolfhow do i do use15:11
* LiL-JoN thinks EVERYBODY should join #LiL-JoN 15:11
mik3fenrir: no15:11
PovAddictFenrir: to scan for what?15:11
Stubbershey all15:11
LiMaOLiL-JoN: could you tell us WHY?15:11
Fenrirso linux is safe from psy,ad and virus's?15:12
PiciLiL-JoN: Don't do that15:12
Fenrirspy*15:12
* ablomen thinks everybody should ignore LiL-JoN 15:12
LiL-JoNLiMaO: to talk? i dont know im bored15:12
Psi-JackMuahahaa.. It's out. :)15:12
PovAddictFenrir: nobody bothers to make spy,ad,and virus for linux15:12
mik3Fenrir : for the most part, yes.15:12
Fracturei've done a clean install of gutsy, and coppied my ~/.gaim folder across, but when I start pidgin, it doesn't seem to re-use any of my configuration15:12
PovAddictand it's harder to do it too15:12
PovAddictso there is nothing to scan15:12
pppoe_dudeLiL-JoN, #ubuntu-offtopic15:12
Fenrirah cool, liking the sound of this even more now :D15:12
naliothFracture: have you asked in #pidgin ?15:12
PiciFracture: Thats because gaim and pidgin are not the same thing15:12
externdoes ATI support composite extension?15:12
xsteelwolf# group and tab :  select window with super-s, group with super-t, ungroup with super-u -> how do i use this15:12
Picixsteelwolf: super = your windows key15:13
SirBob1701None of my tty's work in gutsy they stay at just a blinking cursor15:13
PovAddictanyone having problems downloading? the metalinks really are helping me :]15:13
LiL-JoNnosrednaekim: where did you go?15:13
Psi-Jackextern: Heh, Umm. ATI's drivers... Seriously suck.15:13
xsteelwolfyea but what's group with super t15:13
ugu hello. i've installed ubuntu gutsy on 2 pcs yesterday and they both show no splash screen and take a long time to boot, unless I remove the splash and quiet parameters from grub. what could be wrong?15:13
FracturePici: yeah, so, I presume that for people upgrading from feisty, the upgrade will migrate the .gaim data into a pidgin format ?15:13
LiMaOFenrir: and even with somebody cared about writing a (spy/ad/bad)ware for linux, it would be marked, flamed, and would never get to your system =)15:13
Psi-Jackugu: I'm guessing 64-bit editions?15:13
PiciFracture: I don't know actually :/15:13
assasukasseSirBob1701: is a well known problem15:13
uguPsi-Jack: no15:13
LiMaOeven if*15:13
Fenrircheers limao :D15:14
xsteelwolfPici ,how do i group those keys15:14
externPsi-Jack, is there any way I can get composite stuff running on my x700 PRO video card?15:14
Psi-Jackugu: No? Hmmm, odd.. Nvidia cards?15:14
[Gutsy]Alien18where can i get technical help for installing 7.10?15:14
assasukasseSirBob1701: i really think they should have fixed it before releasing..15:14
YoBileeHow can i install Quake Wars on Ubuntu?15:14
Picixsteelwolf: huh?  'group' is the name of a compiz plugin15:14
uguPsi-Jack: ati :)15:14
Psi-Jackextern: Heh, I couldn't even get DECENT graphics support with my X1600.15:14
SirBob1701assasukasse: I feel the same way.  I happened on my desktop and my laptop.  Do you know of any solutions?15:14
Psi-Jackugu: Ahhh.. There's your problem. ;)15:14
Pici!cfbl | extern15:14
ubotuextern: The following cards are blacklisted in Compiz due to stability & compatibility issues: Intel 965. ATI: Rs480, Rv350. ATI Mobility: x300, x600, x700. More info: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist/15:14
Fenrir:O  i see a new unbuntu out today :O  have to download it, got the older one only the other day15:14
nerdygirl_ellieassasukasse: thus the joys and tribluations of a hard release schedule.15:14
assasukasseSirBob1701: well, what are you nvidia or radeon15:15
gilhi im from mexico some body can helpme to install MANDVD?15:15
Piciassasukasse: Check the release notes, I beleve there was something in there about it.15:15
SirBob1701assasukasse: Nvidia 7800GT15:15
xsteelwolfWhen I do ctrl+alt+drag on compiz, both side just stick back to back with one another,no cube form,anyone knows why?15:15
Psi-Jackgil: MANDVD?15:15
PovAddictxsteelwolf: #compiz?15:15
FenrirIs nvidia 6600 ok?15:15
assasukasseSirBob1701: i addressed by loading module nvidiafb at initramsf15:15
Philo06Atleast my windows still works.15:15
nerdygirl_elliePsi-Jack: sounds like pr0n. :)15:15
gilyes15:15
SirBob1701assasukasse: my laptop has intel integraded any idea? thanks for the help btw15:16
Psi-Jackgil: What IS this .. MANDVD?15:16
gilpsi-jack is to create dvds with subtitles15:16
Psi-Jacknerdygirl_ellie: LOL15:16
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Psi-Jackgil: Looks like it's not in apt, so, you'll have to compile it and install it "the hard way".15:17
MrBisterStarted install 1½ hour ago, still watching a nice background and unable to move the mouse. Normal for a 2GHz Celeron?15:17
maxb_What is trackerd and why is it using all my CPU?15:17
erUSULMrBister: nope15:17
gilyes i know but how do you know how ?15:17
tuplanollamaxb_: tracker is file indexing thingy15:17
Psi-Jackmaxb_: It's like gnome's version of locate, but more intense at the indexing.15:17
kst-can I just mount the alternate cd from harddrive and then update to gutsy from it?15:17
erUSULmaxb_: it indexs your files to fast and rich search features15:17
nerdygirl_elliekst-: oooooooooh, good idea... put the cd in your sources list and.... hmmmm.15:18
xsteelwolfwhen i do ctrl+alt+drag ,both desktop sticks back to back with one another, no cube was form.why is it so15:18
RichWgutsy support in here now i guess?15:18
kst-huh why sources list? the alternate cd has some update feature i think :)15:18
PiciRichW: yes15:18
externwell my video card is not blacklisted, it's "Rv410" and it's not mobility15:18
nerdygirl_ellieRichW: yes.15:18
PovAddictxsteelwolf: #compiz15:18
xsteelwolfRichW ,it is15:18
xsteelwolfcompiz only got shiet 29 members15:18
Picixsteelwolf: Ask in#compiz-fusion15:18
xsteelwolfnone of them are replying15:19
macd!upgrade > macd15:19
Pici!language | xsteelwolf15:19
ubotuxsteelwolf: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.15:19
gildo you?15:19
kst-go to #compiz-fusion and not #compiz xsteelwolf15:19
uguok, another problem: when i try to logout from gnome, it just hangs for at least one minute.15:19
nerdygirl_ellie!language  | nerdygirl_ellie15:19
kst-!upgrade15:19
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes15:19
Philo06Anybody know of a partitioner I can use so I can install Ubuntu?15:19
kst-gparted from the ubuntu livecd Philo0615:20
Philo06I've tried both Gparted as well as the installer.15:20
PovAddictPhilo06: do you have Vista?15:20
kst-(gnome partition manager)15:20
* PovAddict washes mouth15:20
Philo06I wonder if I need to do so outside of the os and cd.15:20
Philo06Pov, I'm on xp right now.15:20
PiciPhilo06: Why cant you use gparted?15:20
gilpsi-jack  can you?15:20
davidstraussHow can I set the umask for sftp sessions?15:20
Philo06Pici, I dont know, it keeps locking up.15:20
Seta-Sanit's a good ideo to partition in windows and then kill the ntsc partition with the ubuntu install15:20
Philo06I've tried like 10 times.15:20
externwhat are the best drivers for ATI X700 PRO 256MB PCI-E video card (not mobility)? Preferably I'd like it to support composite extension.15:20
downhill_# grub-install --recheck /dev/hdb15:20
downhill_Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.15:20
downhill_Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.15:20
downhill_I beg to differ :)15:21
nerdygirl_elliedavidstrauss: is there something about it in the sshd config?15:21
Philo06and the installer says something about not being able to write change to the drive.15:21
Piciextern: use the restricted drivers manager15:21
MrBisterHow long does a normal install take from CD?15:21
davidstraussnerdygirl_ellie: Not according to "man sshd_config"15:21
Philo06But if I try to do a clean swipe it works.15:21
rhysSo I'm curious..they just released 7.10. Is there an alternate install for PPC "release" yet? All I'm finding is the "daily build"15:21
`Matirextern, probably fglrx from restricted15:21
Piciextern: That card is not supported for desktop effects15:21
Philo06(I've had this issue with 7.04)15:21
mik3does anyone maintain source-o-matic? Seveas' repository NEVER WORKS.15:21
John|worksolution I found:  gutsy would not install (x crash).  removed kvm.  Gutsy installed.  Your mileage may vary15:21
downhill_why would grub-install not work?^15:21
RichWMrBister: 20-30 mins15:21
externPici, it's not listed in http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist/15:21
davidstraussnerdygirl_ellie: HPUX does :-)15:21
kolbyMythTV plays 2 seconds behind the live stream.  How can I speed this up?15:21
SirBob1701assasukasse:  thank you that worked.  I can figured out the corresponding fb on my laptop from /etc/modprobe/blacklist-framebuffer15:21
profanephobiamy gnome panels wont load in gutsy15:21
newguyhey there how do i change the splash screen in gutsy?15:22
* Psi-Jack is upgrading his ubuntu servers from 7.04 to 7.10, after just a couple days ago, doing from 6.10 to 7.04. heh15:22
fasti have SATA disk, where shall i put grub in (hd0) or (sd0)??15:22
sam55okay everyone, congrats for the new release!!15:22
sam55bye for now!!15:22
MrBisterRichw, so after almost two hours on a 2GHz PC, something must be wrong(?)15:22
downhill_fast; sda15:22
extern`Matir, fglrx is not listed in the restricted driver manager15:22
Psi-Jackfast: sd015:22
Meyvnno autoupdate for gutsy?15:22
externthough there is ATI accelerated graphics driver15:22
fasthum, ok, thanks15:22
externand it's currently in use15:22
erUSULfast: grub only uses hd* notation afaik15:22
externbut it doesn't support composite15:22
RichWMrBister: maybe something wrong with your cd... what % you on?15:23
externand glxinfo doesn't say that it supports direct rendering15:23
Psi-JackMeyvn: Eh? I'm doing an upgrade to it now on my servers.15:23
downhill_why is grub-install saying "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." when it worked before?15:23
Alex_GaynorWhat do I need to do to upgrade, I was running gutsy beta before this?15:23
kst-so I wont have to boot from the alternate CD or something weird when trying to update from a mounted alternate CD? I cba to download 1gig from network at bad speeds, and it will use up all my free disk space :(15:23
mik3nice failure from do-release-upgrade15:23
YeTr2alright15:23
HaZeMhello15:23
MeyvnPsi-Jack: no updates here, will do it manually then15:23
RichWAlex_Gaynor: nothing.. its automatic15:23
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profanephobiamy gnome panels wont load in gutsy15:23
Psi-JackAlex_Gaynor: You were using the beta RC? Nothing, You're done.15:23
IMYojimbodirect me to a tutorial plz :)  how do i install Tomcat on my current apache2 server ?15:23
Philo06Can the alternate cd partition for me15:23
Philo06?15:23
HaZeMi have Question regarding shipping15:23
YeTr2so what application is supposed to make the upgrading of 7.04 to 7.10 easy with only a few mouse clicks15:23
HaZeMThis my last request  : 2 CDs requested on 2007-10-12. 2 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2007-10-15. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.15:23
Flannel!upgrade | YeTr215:24
ubotuYeTr2: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes15:24
Alex_GaynorAww, I was hoping I got to do something, watching Ubuntu update everything is one of the best parts of my day :/15:24
nerdygirl_ellieYeTr2: upgrade-manager15:24
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Philo06I really want to get this working.15:24
Forgott3n`well guys!15:24
nerdygirl_ellieAlex_Gaynor: youtube: watching paint dry15:24
HaZeMi believe when i did that it was for Gutsy..so how it sent before it become out ?15:24
Forgott3n`it appears the servers didn't buckle this time around15:24
newguyhey there how do i change the splash screen in gutsy?15:24
kst-Philo06 why not use the Live CD (desktop CD)?15:24
HaZeMany explanation please?15:24
LjL!usplash | newguy15:24
ubotunewguy: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork15:24
Actionman /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <4247>15:24
Philo06kst, I used it and it wont partition for me.15:24
LjLActionman: change it.15:25
Philo06kst, gparted and the installer wont partition.15:25
kst-why not, what is not working?15:25
WhitorHi, Brighness control on my laptop doesn't seem to work. is there a quick fix somehow?15:25
hetaumawhy there is no gnome "splash" screen in gutsy?15:25
newguyLjL wow i have to type all that into the terminal?? is there no way to do this with a gui menu or something?15:25
Psi-Jackhetauma: Yes, there is.15:25
nerdygirl_ellieWhitor: do the fn-key brightness changes work?15:25
IMYojimbodirect me to a tutorial plz :)  how do i install Tomcat on my current apache2 server ??15:26
LjLnewguy: no15:26
newguy.... not good15:26
Philo06kst, The installer states that it cannot write to the drive and gparted seems to lock up everytime I try to use it.15:26
downhill_anybody...ffs15:26
Philo06kst, If I try to swipe the drive it works however.15:26
RichWshipit site needs updating15:26
Whitornerdygirl_ellie: The Fn+ brightness controll buttons pull up the on sceeen display... and move the little bar on the bottom, but doesn't affect the output of the display15:26
Philo06As I've had this issue with 7.0415:26
newguyLjL: so even if i just want to install a splash screen i got from the net id still have to use that command?15:27
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newguyim not trying to make a splash screen btw15:27
Philo06I need to keep my windows partition and want to set aside a partition of about 20 gigs.15:27
LjLnewguy: you'd have to read the provided link, actually15:27
profanephobiamy gnome panels wont load in gutsy15:27
Philo06It's really something that should be easy to do. I just need to know of another partitioner I can use.15:28
Philo06Everything else is fine.15:28
downhill_grub-install is being a biatch15:28
downhill_someone.... help.... plz...15:28
nerdygirl_ellieThis is odd...  my vnc listener can receive a connection, but won't open the window.15:28
geartrooper2how do I compile a kernel to add support for a wacom tablet15:28
downhill_geartrooper2: can't you just install the wacom package?15:28
stefglgeartrooper2: you don't need that15:28
nerdygirl_ellieIs there a way to step down from xgl to just x?15:28
RichW7.04 says "New distribution release '7.10 is available.15:28
Psi-Jacknerdygirl_ellie: I usually just uninstall xgl15:29
Psi-JackCauses more problems using xgl. ;)15:29
LjLnerdygirl_ellie: just undo the changes you did when you installed xgl.15:29
geartrooper2downhill_: stefan__ my driver for wacom isn't detected and google tells me to compile with hide-core.c15:29
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kl4mPhilo06: there is pretty much just gparted. Is you partition table or a partition corrupted maybe?15:29
Picigeartrooper2: What version of Ubuntu are you running?15:29
wezzahow much space does a regular gutsy installation take on a harddisk?15:29
geartrooper2Pici: 7.0615:29
slackernnerdygirl_ellie: System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects->None15:30
Picigeartrooper2: What tablet?15:30
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Philo06k14m, I dont think so. I dont know how to check though. Windows runs fine and both windows and ubuntu install fine with a clean swipe.15:30
tckholy smoke15:30
geartrooper2Pici:  wacom bamboo15:30
tck152715:30
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stefglwezza: around 2,1 GB net, so you need at least 2,8 GB space15:30
xtynis there a torrent for ubuntu 7.10?15:30
PovAddictxtyn: of course15:30
slackern!torrent | xtyn15:30
xtyncause i can't find one15:30
ubotuxtyn: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html15:30
Picigeartrooper2: You may want to check the ubuntuforums first, I'm not sure how much support the bamboo has in Feisty by default15:30
actionman /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <4247>15:30
PovAddictxtyn: find a working mirror :P15:30
MrBisteryes, torrents available15:30
Joyho hum15:30
xtynthanks15:30
Joyrsync -avP releases.ubuntu.com::releases/15:30
L0GANstill unable to install flash plugin with 7.10 (was ok with 7.04)15:30
slackerndoh :p15:31
Joyrsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [receiver]15:31
wezzastefgl, hmm oke thanks15:31
Joywhere do i get it from?15:31
PovAddictxtyn: torrents are next to the .iso's15:31
stefglxtyn: see /topic in #ubuntu-release.party15:31
geartrooper2Pici: ok, do you recommend upgrading to 7.10?15:31
Instabin|WorkLogan: flash installs easy on 7.1015:31
xtyn:)15:31
Picigeartrooper2: yes15:31
geartrooper2Pici: thanks.15:31
xtynyou guys are really active15:31
MrBisterWhat can be wrong on a cel. processor based desktop when install takes AGES..15:31
stefglhttp://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent15:31
xtynso is 7.10 great or what?15:31
xtynhaven't tried ubuntu for a long time15:31
Instabin|Workyes 7.10 is great15:31
stefgl!worksforme15:32
L0GANmeh flash plugin gives now some weird error15:32
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/15:32
MrBistergreat if it would install..15:32
MTecknologydid i miss it?15:32
Instabin|WorkMrBitster: mines been  installed since tribe 315:32
Psi-Jackactionman: Did you get your nickserv password changed over? After whomever was abusing the blunder?15:32
L0GANcould anyone try install flash plugin?15:32
Psi-JackL0GAN: Already did. Works great.15:33
Instabin|Worklogan: how are you trying to install it15:33
jhocIs there an easy workaround to the fact that GRUB doesn't show the current windows install after installing gutsy as dual boot?15:33
L0GANPsi-Jack:  the adobe flash plugin???15:33
Psi-JackL0GAN: Yes, I'd not use the other one.15:33
cciiWhat is CUPS, and how can I gain access to it ?15:33
Psi-Jackccii: Common Unix Printing System15:33
yeti_hai15:33
L0GANi get "can not find 'flashplugin-nonfree" error15:34
StefanQndoes anybody know which new multi-monitor/screen tool is included in ubuntu 7.10 ?15:34
L0GAN7.04 it went allright though15:34
Hotgeekhey15:35
xtynso, happy people?15:35
Hotgeekim coming over to Ubuntu 7.1015:35
m1ke_1hi15:35
xtyn:)15:35
priorraComing over from where, Hotgeek?15:35
m1ke_1figure this place would be crowded as hell today15:35
Psi-JackHotgeek: Too late. 8.04 LTS is already out. ;)15:35
HotgeekI am using Linux Mint15:35
PovAddictLOLWUT15:35
xtyni'm not gonna come over to ubuntu but i'm gonna try it15:35
xtyn:)15:35
ViciousPotatoI'm not happy that 7.10 is out .. as my ISP's FTP has yet to mirror it :(15:35
tattersDoes dolphin still complain about permission error when using @open as root@ bookmark in the final release?15:35
tckm1ke_1, its always crowded :P15:35
L0GANyep still gives "can not find 'flashplugin-nonfree" error15:36
linux4meanyone got any docs on how to install lvs-dr on ubuntu fiesty or gutsy (with ultramonkey)?15:36
xtynHotgeek: mint is not that different to ubuntu15:36
generalsnusguys.. i just installed ubuntu 7.10.. using the xorg restricted nvidia drivers for my 8800gtx..  is there a way i can control fan speed?  or easily get the nvidia control panel?  hopefully without installing the drivers from nvidia site(bad experiences)15:36
Hotgeekyea but they have a 7.10 version out yet15:36
PriceChildgeneralsnus, nvidia-settings15:36
gnomefreakHotgeek: its out15:36
L0GANwhere and how to report this issue?15:36
pdlnhrdis anyone else d/l from torrent file?  what is your average speed?15:36
xtyn:)15:36
nerdygirl_elliegeneralsnus: does nvidia-settings work?15:36
gnomefreakL0GAN: launchpad.net15:36
PiciL0GAN: Use ubufox to install flash15:36
Psi-Jackgeneralsnus: The drivers Ubuntu installs for it, IS the drivers from Nvidia's site, current to-date right now.15:36
m1ke_1torrent sucked...back to iso download15:36
StefanQnwhats the name of the application ubuntu 7.10 uses for multi-monitor/screen ?15:37
xtynpdlnhrd: it depends on your connection15:37
toddshould I upgrade my server edition to 7.10?15:37
dogwaterHurray for Gutsy Gibbon15:37
nerdygirl_ellieTorrent sucks?15:37
Hotgeekno Daryna hasnt been released yet15:37
Psi-Jacktodd: I'm doing so now.15:37
tatterspdlnhrd: I am getting 128kbps with ktorrent15:37
nerdygirl_ellietodd: do you need anything new on it?15:37
L0GANpici nah was ok before (in 7.04)15:37
pdlnhrdxtyn: i have a ds3... and pulling 56KB15:37
Hotgeekwill it be easy to switch from linux mint to ubuntu15:37
toddthat is so different from 7.04?15:37
PiciL0GAN: I'm suggesting a fix for your problem...15:37
nerdygirl_elliepdlnhrd: firewalled?15:37
dogwaterBy the way, if anyone needs a dedicated server with GG on it the hosting company I use is going to be offering $10 off15:37
xtynpdlnhrd: :) try ftp or http then15:37
L0GANPici: appriciated15:37
[pablo]so are the ubuntu servers getting hit really hard right now? I can't download any of the updates15:37
generalsnusnvidia-settings worked great15:37
Psi-Jacktodd: Just 5 days ago, I upgraded my servers from 6.10 to 7.04, preparing for 7.04 to 7.10 today.15:37
dogwaterIn celebration of GG15:37
PriceChildHotgeek, what hasn't been released yet?15:37
L0GANim off reporting it anyway15:38
generalsnusthanks all15:38
nerdygirl_elliegeneralsnus: great!15:38
Hotgeeklinux mint version of 7.1015:38
PriceChild[pablo], correct.15:38
pdlnhrdxtyn: i have a big connection.. just thought i would share the love15:38
xtynHotgeek: there are other distros, too15:38
robin_Hey, having a bit of a problem here! My monitor (LG L194WT, http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/l194wt.jhtml) supports 1440x900 and 56-75hz. It is not on the list for monitors in Ubuntu 7.10, but auto-detect seems to get the right values. When I choose any resolution under 1440x900 i can use 75hz, but 1440x900@75hz tells me to log out for changes to take effect. When I log back in it's at 60hz and the 75hz choice has dissapeared. I'm on: 7.115:38
robin_0, Radeon 9700PRO, LG L194WT, radeon driver and compiz15:38
[pablo]awesome =)15:38
`MatirSomeone on here a couple of months ago mentioned a peer-to-peer app for LANs... basically you could see what users of this app are near you on the network and drag and drop files to them... anyone know what this app is called?15:38
Hotgeekyea but i like Ubuntu15:38
dogwaterOh, yeah we have 4 connections to the internet with 5Gbps total and its downloading at about 200kbps15:38
toddPsi-Jack, and no problems along the way?15:38
xtynHotgeek: why?15:38
xtyn:)15:38
Hotgeekcause i do15:38
nerdygirl_ellierobin_: is it an lcd?15:38
Pici!party15:38
ubotuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Gutsy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties15:38
Pici!offtopic15:38
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!15:38
Hotgeeki had tried other distros but they dont compare15:38
xtynpdlnhrd: so, practically, your upload isn;t that great15:38
CharlieSuDoes ubuntu have something like Kickstart?15:38
xtyn;))15:39
LiL-JoNHotgeek: are you really hot?15:39
chumphriescurious, there is not a torrent on the ubuntu website as a means to download?15:39
xtynkickoff?15:39
chumphriesunless i'm missing it15:39
Hotgeekyea15:39
PovAddictchumphries: there is15:39
priorraCharlieSu: you mean like Katapult? =D15:39
PriceChild!offtopic > LiL-JoN15:39
Psi-Jacktodd: Not yet, but I'm still downloading the packages. 6.10-7.04 was a breeze. Even with PostgreSQL 7.x to 8.1, NO problems, which I expected to have to manually upgrade pgsql databases. I was amazed. I even had Debian packages in my 6.10 server, for dbmail. Ubuntu's 7.04 had dbmail in it that upgraded and replaced it.15:39
generalsnusIs there a way of getting nvidia-settings to start menu?15:39
dogwaterCharlieSu: it sure does!15:39
PriceChild!torrents > chumphries15:39
LiL-JoNHotgeek: you conceded little girl/man15:39
Psi-Jackgeneralsnus: Yes. Menu Edit, right click on the menu, edit.15:39
Hotgeekwell thats people tell me15:39
generalsnuscool15:40
denndais there a list of all ubuntu channels on freenode?15:40
CharlieSudogwater: what is it called?15:40
yeniklasorrIs 2.6.22-14 latest kernel for the ubuntu-7.10 ?15:40
dogwaterCharlieSu: it actually emulates Redhat's Kickstart (or it used to)15:40
Pici!channels | dennda15:40
ubotudennda: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines15:40
dennda(/list doesn't work with wildcards)15:40
xtynHotgeek: for me it's simple, i like kde and i don;t like kubuntu, so it's not really a choice, i like ubuntu more than kubuntu, even though i'm a kde fan15:40
alitkahello everybody, i'm new here, i'm from poland.15:40
denndaPici: thanks15:40
CharlieSudogwater: what is it called?  katapult?15:40
erUSUL!hi | alitka15:40
ubotualitka: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!15:40
chumphriesthe torrents should be linked on the download page15:40
xtynHotgeek: plus, ubuntu never worked great for me15:40
xtyn:)15:40
hurrrrrwhen I boot, my external ext3 usb drive will not mount, it is in /etc/fstab etc. I have to ssh in and sudo mount -a;  any ideas?15:40
dogwaterCharlieSu: No, I used something called the "Kickstart Configurator" to generate a standard ks.cfg file and used my regular pxe booter that i install 80 different linux systems with15:41
alitka:)15:41
nerdygirl_elliehurrrrr: in the fstab, add the "auto" option?15:41
VSpikeHey guys - I'm not getting an offer to upgrade version yet in adept manager, but that may just be mirrors catiching up and so on.  I did download the alternate install cd of the Gutsy RC, but haven't done anything with it yet.  To save server bandwidth, can I do a distro upgrade with the CD and then just get final updated packages from the servers afterwards?15:41
nerdygirl_elliehurrrrr: and/or the user option so any user can mount it.15:41
jcorganis there a howto on creating a custome live CD for Ubuntu? the wiki has a blank page15:41
Psi-Jackxtyn: You know. I used to love KDE, I seriously did. I hated Gnome, because I always thought it was a very immature environment. But lately, It's for once, actually impressing me the fact it... Mostly, runs so well, and looks clean, and is organized so well, I'm not even USING KDE anymore. Coming from me whom had used KDE since 1.x, that's saying a lot.15:41
Pici!install > dogwater (check here, there might be something for that)15:41
wezzaxtyn, what is it you don't like about kubuntu since you like KDE?15:41
erUSULhurrrrr: maybe when the mount -a is issued during boot your disk is not up (usb drivers loading later on the boot process)15:41
remix5xHello all, I have a problem with updating to gutsy from feisty, while running the update program i'm getting an error and cant upgrade: "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)15:41
remix5x"15:41
yeniklasorrWhat is ubuntu 7.10's kernal ?15:41
VSpikeI assume it's possible - just wondering how sensible, ie. how much changed between RC and final15:41
Psi-Jackwezza: I have had more HELL trying to install Kubuntu from CD than Ubuntu. The installer is borked.15:41
PriceChildremix5x, servers may be having troubles, try again in a few minutes15:42
Psi-Jackyeniklasorr: The same as Ubuntu's.15:42
tattersI use DRBL with pxe for network installs works V nice15:42
PriceChild!info linux-image-generic | yeniklasorr15:42
ubotuyeniklasorr: linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB15:42
Pici!offtopic | Psi-Jack xtyn LiL-JoN15:42
ubotuPsi-Jack xtyn LiL-JoN: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!15:42
kritzstapfi heard somebody saying that gutsy is still very buggy and one should better wait till december or somewhen to install it, is this true?15:42
Psi-JackPici: And you're pointing the bot to me... Why?15:42
remix5xPriceChild: ok, will do, are you quite sure its a server problem and not on my end?15:42
rskkritzstapf: it's released.15:42
hurrrrrmy fstab line is : /dev/sdb3 /media/databank ext3 auto,user,rw 0 015:42
CharlieSukritzstapf: no15:42
hurrrrrthat's correct?15:42
rskkritzstapf: so shouldn't be to many bugs.15:42
LiL-JoNPici: i love you too man!!! :]15:43
wezzaPsi-Jack, so maybe there is less attention from dev for kubuntu?15:43
PriceChildremix5x, seen as you're on the internet... quite sure.15:43
jcorgani'd like to create a live CD of 7.04 with some of my own deb packages installed, i'm an experienced Linux user/admin--where is a good place to start?15:43
hurrrrrerUSUL : how can I run a command later to mount the disk?15:43
Treoradoes anyone know where to find the PGP key to check the signature of the gutsy iso?15:43
erUSULhurrrrr: yes, afaics (i will add a defaults in the options column just in case15:43
generalsnusPsi-Jack: um.. is there no way of controlling fan speeds in the nvidia settings?  temp is at 80C ..and fan runs at minimum15:43
Psi-Jackwezza: That's my concern, yes. I've seen differences in it, on every time I installed, since 6.10 to 7.4 and now 7.1015:43
z0rzHow can I see a list of all the printers a windows machine has to offer from a command l ine15:43
PriceChildTreora, use the md5sum, and the sums are listed on the download page.15:43
MidBSDIf I have GRUB installed, does that mean I don't have LILO or is it possible to have both installed at the same time?15:43
PriceChildMidBSD, just grub15:43
hurrrrrerUSUL : s/auto/defaults?15:44
erUSULhurrrrr: haz a mount /media/databank to /etc/rc.local15:44
profanephobiamy gnome panels wont load in gutsy15:44
pike_MidBSD: you can have both installed on your partition but only one to mbr at a time15:44
Psi-Jackgeneralsnus: No idea. My Nvidia fan is static, no changing it.15:44
slasherhey, could somebody tell me how to change the resoltion the tty terminals run at or how to set them to run in frame buffer mode15:44
MidBSDThanks PriceChild pike_15:44
erUSULhurrrrr: yes15:44
TreoraPriceChild: but if i want to check whether it's really the official thing, not some hacked thing?15:44
hurrrrrerUSUL : k trying15:44
z0rzHow can I see a list of all the printers a windows machine has to offer from a command line?15:44
TreoraThey have a signature in the mirrors15:44
PovAddictTreora: use the md515:44
wezzaPsi-Jack, i was wondering to install kubuntu on my girlfriends pc, since she like all that shines.. but maybe choose ubuntu instead..15:44
PovAddictTreora: it would be really hard to make a hacked one with the same md515:44
UbersoldaterUSUL: spanglish total15:45
Javidjcorgan, if you ever find that out i'd like to know too =D15:45
newbie007http://ubuntu.hosting.spherelinx.com/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso    VEEEEERRRRRY   FAAAASST!!!!15:45
erUSULhurrrrr: althought... if youm are going to mount it in rc.local maybe a defaults,noauto,etc is better15:45
PriceChildTreora, using https://, read the md5sums from the website and compare to your md5sum.15:45
Treorabut I can't find the public key15:45
rskwezza: install both.15:45
PriceChild!offtopic > newbie00715:45
Estel|ukTreora, http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS15:45
PriceChildTreora, disc images aren't signed.15:45
Pici!verify | Treora15:45
ubotuTreora: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:45
PovAddictnewbie007: if you keep linking it it will stop being so fast15:45
erUSULUbersoldat: XD15:45
jcorganjavid: it seems that is isn't well document how the official ones are even created :-(15:45
TreoraPriceChild: the idea is that everyone could have made that md5 ;)15:45
Javidi know :[15:45
Estel|ukThey'd have to be very clever to do so :D15:45
MidBSDIf I resize my Ubuntu partition (an extended partition with two logical partitions, main partition and a swap partition), do I need to tell GRUB that it's been changed?15:45
PriceChildTreora, will you accept the md5sum I give you as an ubuntu/member ?15:45
PovAddictTreora: check many mirrors15:46
newbie007PovAddict, no, the person that hosts it says he's got so much bandwidth that we're never ever going to use it all up....he's gone , afk or something...he asked me and a few others to tell others15:46
profanephobiamy gnome panels wont load in gutsy15:46
Alp`how much space does gutsy need with all upgrades?15:46
Piciprofanephobia: do you get an error if you launch them from a terminal?15:46
PriceChildAlp`, double the space of the size of packages it needs to download.15:46
Ubersoldatslasher: that should be giving on boot time15:46
profanephobiaPici, nope15:46
Ubersoldatslasher: given15:46
wezzarsk, yes i might try both, since KDE was a long time ago for me, i like to see where it is now :)15:46
remix5xPriceChild: thank ya kindly, ill try again in 10 mins15:46
Treoraprofanephobia: ok thanks on that page is the key id, what i was looking for :)15:46
whazillahey15:46
Treoraeh wrong one, PriceChild i meant :P15:47
whazillahow di get ncurses on ubuntu ?15:47
slasherUbersoldat: what the command to do that or could you point me to a reference?15:47
Xsylottewill i lose data if i upgrade via update manager ?15:47
jcorganjavid: which surprises me...the Ubuntu devs must have a good automated system for making the installer live CD15:47
erUSULnewbie007: maybe he was after causing a DDoS on that server :S15:47
profanephobiaPici,  they act like they are loading but freeze up and i cant do anything with them15:47
RichWhow could of shipit of sent 7.10 cd's 3 days ago?15:47
tattersDoes gutsy finall allow to encrypt whole drve dufing install EFS?15:47
PriceChildXsylotte, no, but keep backups by default.15:47
Ubersoldatslasher: you would need to edit the grub menu.lst file15:47
Alp`PriceChild: i dont know the number15:47
Piciprofanephobia: I think I saw something in the release notes, hold on15:47
PriceChildtatters, use the alternate cd.15:47
cyclonutany idea why suspend only works in KDE, and not gnome, in gutsy?15:47
Psi-Jacktatters: The Alternate CD does, I believe.15:47
profanephobiaPici, k thanks15:47
whazillahow di get ncurses on ubuntu ?15:47
kmaynardtatters, great handle, btw :)15:47
PriceChildAlp`, neither do I. Depends what you've changed on your system.15:47
geefinatorAnyone in here able to help me with ncpfs and ipx?15:47
Ubersoldatslasher: and add vga=##x## to the kernel line15:47
hurrrrrerUSUL : mount call in rc.local did the trick, thanks15:48
erUSULwhazilla: libncurses5  ?15:48
ganes1hi..how can i upgrade to 7.10??15:48
whazillathkx15:48
gnomefreakRichW: what makes you think they sent them that day?15:48
slasherThanks Ubersoldat, i'll try that15:48
Psi-Jack!upgrade ganes115:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upgrade ganes1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:48
Jaymacganes1,  just run update-manager15:48
kmaynarddoes bootsplash work on a hanns g 19" wide screen?15:48
mendoHow do i run updates from the command prompt?15:48
Psi-JackErm.15:48
CharlieSuganes1: yeah..15:48
gnomefreakganes1: system>admin>update-manager15:48
Xsylotteganes1, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading15:48
Jaymacganes1, System>admin>Update-manager15:48
Alp`PriceChild: a clean install15:48
RichWgnomefreak: 4 CDs requested on 2007-10-11. 4 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2007-10-1515:48
Sergowazzup!!15:48
gnomefreakmendo: for feisty to gutsy?15:48
tattersPriceChild: thnx I been using reguler cd, read somewhere this is possible know I know why I coiuldnt find the option, should be on the reguler cd though it sounds pretty usefull for laptops15:48
Sergo:D15:48
CharlieSugnomefreak: yes15:48
PriceChildAlp`, have you even tried upgrading to see what it says?15:48
RichWgnomefreak: I preorderd15:48
gnomefreakRichW: they are not sent out15:48
whazillaerUSUL: it says its allready installed but psptoolchain says ncurses is not installed15:49
PriceChildAlp`, you can cancel it any time before package instillation.15:49
Ubersoldatslasher: also, check this out: http://www.comtv.ru/~av95/linux/console/console.html.15:49
geefinatorAnyone in here able to help me with ncpfs and ipx?15:49
erUSULhurrrrr: you're wellcome15:49
Piciprofanephobia: Eh, can't find it.  Try deleting ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/*15:49
mendowell the updates first for 7.04 then im going to update to 7.1015:49
Alp`PriceChild: i'm currently installing it completly new15:49
PovAddictwhere are the DVDs?15:49
rsk1.5k ppl here :)15:49
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Piciprofanephobia: deleteing/moving15:49
PriceChildAlp`, it will have told you.15:49
erUSULwhazilla: you need the -dev version if you are compiling15:49
profanephobiagnomefreak, run this: gksu "update-manager -d"15:49
CharlieSuPovAddict: Torrent15:49
PriceChildrsk, yes, we can all see that.15:49
whazillathkx15:49
gnomefreakprofanephobia: no!!!!!15:49
profanephobiaPici, k thanks ill try15:49
Piciprofanephobia: no!15:49
erUSULwhazilla: libncurses5-dev15:49
Picignomefreak: ack!15:49
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varun0profanephobia: I'm pretty sure he wants to run update-manager -c15:49
gnomefreakprofanephobia: first off -d is not needed and no advised15:49
CharlieSuack!15:49
whazillahow are u erUSUL  ?15:49
JimQodehow can I get the MSSQL extension for PHP on ubuntu? (gutsy)15:49
gnomefreakprofanephobia: the -c is nolonger needed15:50
jcorganwell, looks like i'll have to use something else besides Ubuntu for making a live CD. :-(15:50
Picignomefreak: wait? what are we no! ing about?15:50
nerdygirl_ellieHi.  I upgraded yesterday to 7.10, and now my inbound vncviewer connections (vncviewer -listen) aren't working.  The session connects, but it never opens a window.  Any suggestions?15:50
erUSULwhazilla: fine thanks ;)15:50
gnomefreakand neither is gksudo or suydo15:50
whazilla:)15:50
Ubersoldatrsk: and in #windows there are only like 232 ppl15:50
gnomefreakPici: -d is bad15:50
profanephobiaPici, i thought update-manager -d worked?15:50
ganes1thanks all...15:50
gnomefreakprofanephobia: for devel versions15:50
Estel|ukUbersoldat, this is freenode ^^15:50
PriceChildprofanephobia, -d is for devel versions.15:50
Piciprofanephobia: Thats only for development versions, which we're not15:50
gnomefreakgutsy is stable release15:50
tattersI use EFS with windows and it allows me tostore the key on removable media (syskey)   so not prone to cracking , does ubuntu EFS have the same feature?15:50
nerdygirl_elliegnomefreak: stable release?  that remains to be seen. :)15:51
nerdygirl_ellie:D15:51
Psi-Jacknerdygirl_ellie: Heh, it's stable. :)15:51
Psi-JackMostly...15:51
gnomefreakPici: -d is bad since noone knows when hardy repos will open to add new toolchain15:51
nerdygirl_ellie(Just kidding, Ubuntu releases are more stable than MS releases, yes.)15:51
Ginevince takes too long to display a page from a pdf file :(15:51
raqueloi galera15:51
raquelquem aki tem 14 ou 15 anos15:51
irule"gpasswd -a group user" aasigns the user to the group, but removes from previous group, I want user to belong to many groups, how can I fix it?15:51
Picignomefreak: Agreed. I thought you were 'no!' ing about something else I had suggested to profanephobia :)15:52
Xsylottebtw. Please replace the disc in the drive with a supported disc with at least 4.8 GiB free.  The following disc types are supported:15:52
XsylotteDVD+R DL ???15:52
Psi-Jacknerdygirl_ellie: Yeah, and no having to reinstall just for an upgrade. ;)15:52
profanephobiagnomefreak, Pici sry bout that15:52
Pici!es | raquel15:52
Xsylottehelp pls ?15:52
uboturaquel: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.15:52
gnomefreakPici: well first suprised me as he told me how to upgrade15:52
L0GANhmm the bug was reported several times in the RC period :(15:52
pike_irule: usermod -a -G groupname username   the -a appends15:52
nerdygirl_ellieayudas en espanol, #ubuntu-es15:52
pike_irule: there are a number of diff ways though15:52
erUSULPici: portuguese15:52
erUSUL!pt | raquel15:52
* gnomefreak been folowing update-manager since dapper devel15:52
uboturaquel: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:52
irulethanks pike_15:52
L0GANsounds like promoting some unofficial plugin to me15:52
agent47a is there an upgrade path from Gutsy RC1?15:52
raqueloieeeeeeeeeeeeeee15:53
Psi-Jackagent47a: No.15:53
Pici!final | agent47a15:53
nerdygirl_elliegnomefreak: me too! :)15:53
ubotuagent47a: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.15:53
gnomefreakagent47a: no you have to get final15:53
PriceChild!final | agent47a15:53
AngryElf_I just installed mdadm (on a fresh install) and it detected two arrays and dropped them into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf -- where did it detect them from???15:53
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raquelkem tem 14 anos15:53
PriceChildPsi-Jack, please don't confuse users. If you don't know the answer, don't speak.15:53
gnomefreakraquel: engligh15:53
stattoHi, guys!15:53
stattoIs there a way to return to your local applications if you're running the terminal server client fullscreen without logging off the remote connection?15:53
Psi-JackPriceChild: Excuse me?15:53
therethinkerArgh... BT keeps giving me 111 errors (Connection refused) it worked this morning...15:53
raquelhello15:53
erUSULraquel: este e un canle para soporte tenico non para falar en jeral15:53
Keneothe ubuntu installer get's stuck on: scanning the mirror here... :(15:53
erUSUL!pt | raquel15:53
FlatsGuess there is no paid support for 7.10 is there?15:53
uboturaquel: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:53
L0GANill gry gnash for now and hopefully the issue will be corrected on another download15:53
PriceChildFlats, ubuntu.com/support for support options15:54
Flatsreally15:54
Psi-JackPriceChild: I don't answer unless I /do/ know the answer. So, what are you referring to?15:54
Keneonic15:54
Keneonvmd15:54
PiciPsi-Jack: That there is no upgrade path from RC.15:54
PriceChildPsi-Jack, RC users keeping up with apt updates will have Gutsy Final.15:54
Psi-JackPriceChild: Exactly. There's no "upgrade path", it's already there.15:54
profanephobiaPici, so if one accidentally installed the dev version of gutsy how could one reverse that or install the non dev version lol15:55
gnomefreakPsi-Jack: no isnt a helpful answer15:55
generalsnusJust installed Nvclock to control my nvidia fan speeds.. but i can configure out how to start it..  used synaptics: nvclock-gtk15:55
generalsnuscant*15:55
gnomefreakprofanephobia: there is no dev version of gutsy15:55
PriceChildprofanephobia, "dev version"? you mean "pre- final release"?15:55
tman_ubuntufilesystem issues.  Please help!15:55
nerdygirl_elliegeneralsnus: were you able to set the speed with nvidia-settings?15:55
PriceChildPsi-Jack, in future please give users the !final factoid.15:55
generalsnusnope15:55
Piciprofanephobia: If you used -d to upgrade, its okay now, but don't suggest that in the future.15:55
nerdygirl_ellieaww. :(15:55
generalsnusnvclock is supposed to do the job tho15:56
Flatswhoa 250 bucks for desktop. I'll take my chances here15:56
generalsnusbut i dunno how to start the app :P15:56
nerdygirl_ellieFlats: hehe... what's broken?15:56
erUSULgeneralsnus: Alt+F2 ??15:56
nerdygirl_elliegeneralsnus: do you want it to start at boot or at login?15:56
L0GANboth pluging dont install, lol15:56
kst-what do I need to type to mount the alternate cd from gutsy so I can update from it?15:56
tman_ubuntuFilesystem giving wrong created and modified dates.  Please help figure this out with me.15:56
generalsnuswell..i just wanna start it and change fan speed15:56
erUSUL!iso | kst-15:57
ubotukst-: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.15:57
kst-thanks erUSUL15:57
FlatsWhen I bootup, X doesn't start and I gety an error about i850 driver not found. If I do the dpkg thing where it autodetects everything,l it will come up but not in KDE desktop15:57
generalsnusnevermind guys.. i just forgot to add "-gtk"15:57
XsteelWolfCan i play drm protected wmv files on linux?15:57
Psi-JackHmm, Isn't there a fuse for mounting ISO's as well?15:57
L0GANi guess i redownload 7.04 for the time being untill it gets corrected15:57
nerdygirl_elliegeneralsnus: once you've found the correct series of commands to start it, you can use system-> preferences -> sessions to run it every time automatically.15:57
nerdygirl_elliePsi-Jack: "mount" can mount an iso.15:58
Hotgeekim back15:58
Psi-Jacknerdygirl_ellie: Yes, but that requires root access to be able to do so. ;)15:58
nerdygirl_elliePsi-Jack: something like mount -o remount /isopath /destination15:58
nerdygirl_elliePsi-Jack: it's in the man page.15:58
minus_XsteelWolf, You can probably hack them so that DRM goes away15:58
erUSULPsi-Jack: check on the fuse web site15:58
godzirraHeya guys.  I installed Gutsy, and I'm downloading packages... but I'm curious if there's any reason I'm getting 2k/s instead of my normal speeds? :)15:58
XsteelWolfminus_, too torublesome15:58
therethinkergodzirra: probably because everyones downloading :P15:59
nerdygirl_elliegodzirra: It's because 100,000 of your closest friends are doing the exact same thing.15:59
joshe_;)15:59
erUSULminus_: do not advice cracking/warez/coyright inf. here please15:59
Fracturei've just installed a clean gutsy, and coppied my ~/.evolution folder across, when I start evolution, it doesn't retain any configuration15:59
erUSULgodzirra: release day == loaded servers15:59
therethinkerI think we might break the interwebs -- what do you guys think?15:59
nerdygirl_ellietherethinker: only if someone clogs the tubes.15:59
erUSULFracture: not even the mail data?16:00
therethinkerI think we're doing that :P16:00
FractureerUSUL: nope16:00
kl4mtherethinker: If you think Ubuntu is a strain, imagine Windows service packs16:00
awalton__I think it's time to sound the help flag, I'm having some weird issues with applications not wanting to start after the last update16:00
awalton__specifically rhythmbox and gnome-terminal16:00
afieftherethinker, nothing scares the RIAA more than a torrent that's downloaded by hundreds of people at once:D16:00
qaldunewhat command should i use to upgrade my ubuntu install to next version?16:01
erUSULFracture: :S16:01
kl4m!upgrade16:01
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes16:01
therethinkerkl4m: Wow... I never thought of that... How do they stay alive? :P16:01
erUSUL!upgrade > qaldune16:01
trezSomeone where I can get more information on "NET: Registered  protocol family 17"? Seems to be a source of Kernel Oops for me :)16:01
tattersanyone actulay got the final installed,tell me if Dolphin is still giving error on permisions?16:01
nerdygirl_elliekl4m: Ms service packs aren't so bad, they akamai the content and most large ISP's have akamai caches on-net.16:01
therethinkerafief: Hehe16:01
XsteelWolfCan i play drm protected wmv files on linux?16:01
kl4mtherethinker: They use Aka... what nerdygirl_ellie said16:01
qalduneomg those links are outdated16:02
qalduneisn't there a single straight command?16:02
afiefnerdygirl_ellie, installing them is a nightmare though16:02
tman_ubuntuIs this not the place to ask for help with system issues?16:02
kl4mqaldune: there is, depending on your version16:02
nerdygirl_ellieqaldune: the sexual orientation of commands is not on-topic for this list.16:02
qaldunekl4m: feisty > gutsy16:02
cjae_how does one setup hdparm since the kernel now uses sda and such16:02
PovAddictlol16:02
smegzor666lol16:02
qaldunenerdygirl ha ha ha16:02
myconidcjae_, hdparm /dev/sdx16:03
kl4m!upgrade > qaldune16:03
alorilis this assumption correct: Sep 25 beta gutsy 7.10 + upadtes as they are offered == currently released gutsy 7.10 ? (faq didn't answer this question, nor some google searches)16:03
XsteelWolfwhat's gtk theme16:03
Pici!final | aloril :)16:03
ubotualoril :): If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.16:03
nerdygirl_elliealoril: yes,16:03
JuJuBeeI finally got my dual head settings working after  much frustration.  When I restart, the settings are all messed up and I need to reconfigure x and redo the settings to get dual head working again.  How can I ensure the current settings work upon restart?16:03
soothsayerHow do I unhold all the packages I currently have on hold?16:03
kishanaloril what is the problem16:03
nerdygirl_ellieJuJuBee: what application are you using to set it up?16:03
erUSULFracture: maybe you need the gconf bits about evolution... dunno how to move them though16:03
alorilthanks16:03
kl4msoothsayer: I think apt-get -f16:03
cjae_sudo hdparm - d1 /dev/sda16:03
cjae_doesn't work myconid16:03
JuJuBeeI have ati video card, so aticonfig16:03
aloril0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.16:03
kishanaloril what version of gutsy u installed16:03
XsteelWolfwhat's gtk for16:04
karayanWhile upgrading from feisty to gutsy will I be downloading a lot of megabytes data? I dont have too many packages installed on feisty and I am on a limited connection.16:04
nerdygirl_elliealoril: then you are set.16:04
fiXXXerMe1What's the difference between the ubuntu CD and DVD?16:04
kishanaloril u already on the final version i think16:04
nerdygirl_ellieJuJuBee: does aticonfig have a save to Xorg.conf button?16:04
BlinnyAny known issues mounting NFS shares on Gutsy? I'm getting 'wrong fs type' message16:04
kl4msoothsayer: There is also --ignore-hold but it seems unsafe.16:04
pwnt-nerdygirl_ellie: I get the same thing, but i don't have gutsy final. I have beta. and can't find upgrades to go to final gutsy16:04
qalduneis the update process from feisty > gutsy trustworthy?16:04
erUSULFracture: found this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/574916:04
Psi-JackHmm16:04
alorilcat etc/lsb-release\nDISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu\nDISTRIB_RELEASE=7.10\nDISTRIB_CODENAME=gutsy\nDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 7.10"16:04
JuJuBeeaticonfig is command line...16:04
FractureerUSUL: I wish evo 2.11 had the backup tool !16:04
kl4mBlinny: you must install nfs-common on gutsy16:04
qaldunei don't wanna screw the system up16:04
Blinnykl4m: Thanks mate. Will do.16:04
Jeruvykarayan: it will be a lot of MB :)16:05
Piciqaldune: follow the upgrade instructions and you should be okay16:05
soothsayerkl4m: Aren't those temporary? I mean, won't the packages still be on hold for future upgrades?16:05
benzondarn ubu dont want to find my onboard soundcard16:05
myconidmy compiz is srsly pissed16:05
nerdygirl_ellieJuJuBee: sorry, can't help then...  I am an an Nvidia Chic. :)  The answer lies in saving all those changes to your Xorg.conf, but the path is a mystery.16:05
Charlottehi guys :)16:05
XsteelWolfwhat's gtk for16:05
karayanjeruvy: more than 60% of the gutsy image size?16:05
alpineI changed application fonts and my thunderbird display is now distorted. what to do?16:05
dooglus!ati16:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:06
JuJuBeeK,  thanks nerdygirl_elli16:06
benzonstandart intell onboard soundcard16:06
Charlottehow is everybody doin'16:06
benzon!sound16:06
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP316:06
XsteelWolf!gtk16:06
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI16:06
Jovaroi need some help. I updated to gutsy, everything went fine but on rebooting I just get a black screen16:06
nerdygirl_ellieXsteelWolf: it is a toolset that gives most gnome applications their buttons and scrollers and widgets.  you need it. :)16:06
Jovarowhat to do?16:06
RantingHuman!version16:06
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell16:06
milekicbnithing16:06
Kaiserlichhi. i installed suns jre v.6. what's the path to the java vm?16:06
XsteelWolfand since it is a toolset,why is there themes for gtk16:06
karayan!help16:06
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:06
tattersI must say though in my experiences of running that a fully updated Beta is different from a final release for example my touchpad will not drag and drop with gutsy tribe 3 fully updated today, but gutsy Beta onwards I can drag and drop16:06
AngryElf_anyone here familiar with ubuntu's version of mdadm?16:06
nerdygirl_ellieKaiserlich: sudo updatedb && locate java | grep bin16:07
Charlotteto :Jovaro    u have to edit grup, just add noapic to the end of the line and ur all set16:07
Psi-JackI do have one problem currently with Ubuntu I can't seem to solve. And this is 7.10, of course.  I had to blacklist the bt878 module from OSS loading drivers for my Pinnacle PCTV Rave. bttv itself, loads, but alsa's snd-bt87x doesn't. When I load snd_bt87x manually, it doesn't fix it, but when I load it, unload bttv and re-load bttv, it works fine.16:07
jpastoreI'm about 50% done downloading gutsy .... can I cancel this and it resume later?16:07
Jovarothanks Charlotte, I'll give it a try!16:07
afiefjpastore, yes16:07
XsteelWolfjpastore, yes you can16:07
jpastorethanks16:07
nerdygirl_ellieXsteelWolf: some people like grey buttons, some like blue buttons, mine are purple.  :)  That's what the themes are for.16:07
afiefjpastore, unless you do an apt-get clean16:07
FractureerUSUL: cheers, that will help16:07
alorilkishan: I think there is no problem, I just wanted to verify my assumption that I have already final version installed (and it seems so)16:07
pwnt-how can i fix my source.list? I think my updater doesn't see new things16:07
Charlotteyou are welcome16:08
erUSULFracture: no problem16:08
XsteelWolfHave someone got a nice gnome theme to show?16:08
afiefpwnt-, usually replacing fesity with gutsy does the trick16:08
kishanaloril,me too i was on rc there are no updates today16:08
pete83XsteelWolf: it is the archetecture to which themes are applied. QT is a different toolkit, which therefore uses different themes. This is why KDE applications do not use your GTK themes, but other ones16:08
Picipwnt-: no.  dont do that16:08
nerdygirl_ellieXsteelWolf: you do, if you are on ubuntu.. system -> pref -> appearances16:08
Picipwnt-: follow the instructions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading16:08
pwnt-afief: I'm on gutsy, but not the newest. Im in beta havent upgraded anything from 3days ago. everytime i click "Check" It finds nothing new to upgrade/install. and apt-get thinks im up-to-date too!16:08
Piciafief: Please dont suggest that. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading16:08
pwnt-Pici: I did. it finds nothing!16:09
nerdygirl_ellieXsteelWolf: Crux is pretty.16:09
kishanaloril,there were 63 updates two days ago so i think thats what it it upgraded to final version16:09
Picipwnt-: There havent been any updates for a few days.16:09
hobiei can has gibbon?16:09
pwnt-Pici: even today I clicked check and there was no Final gutsy to install. nothing at all!16:09
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CrankymonkyCan anyone explain to me why the version of ntfs-3g in the feisty repo's is 1:1328-1, while the most recent version is still 1.100416:09
jhaigI have a newly upgraded Gutsy (like most people here, I guess) and I am trying powertop.  It is suggesting enabling HPET in BIOS (which I cannot do) or as a kernel patch.  Is there a howto somewhere explaining how to implement this patch?  Can it be done easily, or do I need to recompile?16:09
Picipwnt-: There is no 'final' package.16:09
Yodudehello i ahev a simple question, i'm upgrading to gutsy right now, but if the connection cut out and cam back in like 20 seconds will all the upgrade fail ? or will the installer cache all the downloaded packages ?! I am sure the connection's gonna cut ou for like 20 in 10 hours, so will the download continue successfully after it's back ?16:09
moserhi to all16:09
kishanpwnt,u already on final version16:10
moserand happy ubutnu 7.10 :)16:10
stuporgluepici, do 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' and see if it says gutsy, feisty or what16:10
pwnt-Pici: then you mean I was in the final gutsy since 3days ago?16:10
tattersI got 2 updates today with gutsy beta16:10
Tesla-HETyYouri: is DOES caches16:10
PiciYodude: If the upgrade dies when its downloading, its okay, it will save the partially downloaded stuffs.16:10
Jeruvykarayan: I'd take a wild crazy guess at about 300mb...but I assume no responsibility for it's accuracy :)16:10
KarotteI just updated to Gutsy on my Thinkpad T60 and the screen is black on bootup until I get to my X Login.. any idea why? I don't get a splash screen and I dont get boot messages16:10
nerdygirl_elliepwnt-: more or less, they updated compiz yesterday, that's it.16:10
Picistuporglue: I'm not having issues.16:10
ZaptCan someone please post a torrent URL for the ubuntu cd version?16:10
benzoncan any one help me figure out why my intel moboś onboard soundcard dont work ? and i get bip noise from my mobo16:10
tatterskdelibs-data16:10
Karotteand which package do I need to customize the compiz-fusion effects?16:10
erUSUL!torrents > Zapt16:10
afiefPici, isn't what i said essentially the same thing the upgrade manager does? (I learned linux through doing those things manually)16:10
Picipwnt-: There have been very few updates, and its possible you didnt qualify for any of them,.16:11
nerdygirl_ellie!ccsm16:11
Zaptthx16:11
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz16:11
stuporglueZapt : http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent16:11
generalsnusalright.. how do i install this CVS? http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=2133516:11
Piciafief: No.  The upgrade manager does other steps.16:11
pwnt-is this looks fine? http://pastebin.com/me78908b - please check pls16:11
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PocketBrai1ooo... 610 MB of the CD torrent... I'm so excited!16:11
YodudePici: thnx man16:11
Karotteright16:11
nerdygirl_elliegeneralsnus: what do you want out of cvs?16:11
stuporgluepwnt : yeah16:11
Zaptstuporglue, thats DVD!!16:11
jdongZapt: it might be faster to get the .torrent from demonoid, or isohunt, or a similar torrent search engine16:11
larlarlarok i installed gutsy beta a few weeks ago, do i need to do another dist-upgrade to upgrade to full?16:11
Kaiserlichnerdygirl_ellie: thanks!16:11
Charlotteyo boys i have a question for ya. i've been using FF since it came out while ago.today installed Gutsy on my hp  and surprise  my wirlesscard was recognise16:12
nerdygirl_ellieKaiserlich: anytime! :)16:12
PovAddict!final | larlarlar16:12
ubotularlarlar: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.16:12
Charlottebut it is not working16:12
pwnt-stuporglue: thanks16:12
alorilkishan: I guess, these 2 days used for final testing (and mirroring I guess)16:12
YodudePici: you know cuz i live in lebanon and the power HAS to cut out ever 6-10 hours. My upgrade takes 10 hours ( 256Kbps ADSL ), so if the power cuts it's gonna take the connection with it for some time16:12
larlarlarPovAddict, thanks man16:12
gregbuntuI wonder if it's ok to do the upgrade from CD (torrent the iso) even though I have many packages installed in feisty from universe, multiverse. Any one know?16:12
moserok, i need help regarding installing ubutnu 7.10 with winodws Xp pro, i have two SATA hdd, first 320GB partitioned in two 100gb and 200 GB. 200 GB i use for data storage. Other 200 GB hdd for data storage. now i want to install ubuntu in 100GB partiioned where xp installed16:12
godzirraah.  I didnt realize today was release day for gutsy ;)16:12
afiefgeneralsnus, you need to chek out the source, configure, make and make install(all in the INSTALL file usually)16:12
generalsnusnerdygirl_ellie: i need the cvs install for my card..only the cvs will support 8800gtx16:12
Charlottei mean is listet in lspci but no wlan0 , so what i have to do to make my wirlesscard working16:12
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: Broadcom, right?  Open system -> admin -> restricted modules, and check the box for the broadcom firmware.16:12
VSpikeHey guys - I'm not getting an offer to upgrade version yet in adept manager, but that may just be mirrors catiching up and so on.  I did download the alternate install cd of the Gutsy RC, but haven't done anything with it yet.  To save server bandwidth, can I do a distro upgrade with the CD and then just get final updated packages from the servers afterwards?16:12
PiciYodude: Just as long as it doesnt cut out while its installing the packages, its okay16:12
hammer123is 7.10 out? is that the reason why download from repos is slow16:13
benzonPici dont the standart AC97 soundcards work in ubuntu ?16:13
stuporglueZapt: It's a CD iso. It's 695.8 Mb --  I've got it open right now16:13
PovAddicthammer123: yes16:13
nerdygirl_elliegeneralsnus: that's an "unpleasant" process.  I wouldn't try it today with all the IRC traffic.16:13
Flatswhere is the xorg.conf file found?16:13
seu_barrigahammer123, yes, it is out16:13
JovaroCharlotte, I tried the noapic option but I still just get a black screen, any other ideas?16:13
afiefhammer123, it is, hundreds of people downloading has that effect, use torrents16:13
pwnt-Flats: /etc/X1116:13
JuJuBeeflats /etc/X1116:13
Symmetriahammer yes its out and expect some of hte mirrors to be taking a fair amount of strain16:13
nerdygirl_ellieFlats: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf16:13
Charlottehmm i dont see broadcom restricted in restricted moduls16:13
Symmetriaheh, my mirror currently has 1845 established tcp connections to it16:13
Picibenzon: I dont know16:13
YodudePici: oh it will, but the Pc will ladt, cuz the monitor will be turned off and the UPS functioning16:13
hammer123well than i will wait for another week or 2 before upgrading mine L)16:13
benzonPici okay :)16:13
moserDo i need to resize the partitioned the 100 GB , on new partition ubuntu install?16:14
benzonany one ellse that got Intel Mobo with AC97 on it that cant get it to work ?16:14
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: then it must be a different card, I'll step out of the way and maybe someone can help.16:14
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: did you have it working before?  (with ndiswrapper)16:14
dedigrml, while booting it says md0 stopped and right after that: waiting for root file system. no clue why it stopps md0. please help16:14
Symmetriahammer 48 hours and things will have calmed down a lot16:14
alorilkishan: "My testing was done on a Toshiba laptop using the final release candidate for Gutsy Gibbon. Canonical says that, if all goes well, there will be no difference between the candidate and Thursday's final release." from http://www.wired.com/software/softwarereviews/news/2007/10/ubuntu_gutsy16:14
hammer123i installed linuxdcpp, i need to know how to add the icon in the add/remove under internet section16:14
Baxhow do I download a file from the internet through a terminal16:15
mc44Bax: wget url16:15
seu_barrigaBax wget address16:15
Baxty!16:15
kishanaloril,thanks so i was using gutsy final since two days lol16:15
FlatsIs there a file that holds the error messages from boot up?16:15
Charlottewell is broadcom bcm4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 3)16:15
seu_barrigaBax, if u wanna surf on text download links2 ^^16:16
nerdygirl_ellieFlats: several...16:16
Flatswell I just need 116:16
kishanwho is here from india16:16
JovaroI updated to gutsy and now after rebooting all I get is a black screen, I tried to add noapic to grub but that didn't help. Anyone got an idea?16:16
nerdygirl_ellieFlats: if it is an X error, it should be in your home directory in the xsession file.16:16
muskogeerabbitTrying to upgrade to 7.10 and getting the following message. It then aborts upgrade. Failed to fetch http://repository.debuntu.org/dists/feisty/Release Unable to find expected entry  multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)16:16
moserany help guys?16:16
Flatscool thanks16:16
Charlotteto Jovaro:  try to add nosplash noapic and see what is wrong16:17
YodudeGUTSY's  FINALLY OUT !!!!!16:17
nerdygirl_ellieFlats: it could be in /var/log/messages too.16:17
pejo_hello, my xterm displays " ' " as "200\230" anyone know how to solve this issue?16:17
karayanjeruvy: thanks mate, I am going to upgrade16:17
Charlottewhy my card is listed in lspci but is not working? what to do to make it worked?16:17
cyberixAfter upgrading to Gutsy the Workspace Switcher doesn't show me windows that are on other desktops. How can I fix this?16:18
nerdygirl_elliemuskogeerabbit: you have a non-standard source in your sources list.  Temporarily disable that source and try the upgrade again.  I had to turn off the Wine and Miro repos, and also (dirty little secret) gasp, the automatix repo.16:18
nerdygirl_ellie!automatix16:18
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)16:18
tattersI know that I can check download for defects  and that the burn was succesfull , and I also can check my memory before install as well as a final check of CD, but what method is there to check an installation went well?16:18
nerdygirl_ellie... see I saved you the trouble of doing it. :)16:18
nerdygirl_ellietatters: boot? :D16:18
erUSULCharlotte: which card?16:19
mukiexOooh, nice nick =316:19
Charlotteany one willing to give me a hand with this pls16:19
PovAddicthttp://metamirrors.nl/node/13916:19
AngryElf_imagine I have a HD with one partition w/ ext3 on it -- then I fdisk it and delete the partition, write the changes, start fdisk again and create the exact same partition -- why is the ext3 FS still there, and how do I get rid of it?16:19
tattersis there like a hash of a fresh install or something that can be varified16:19
kanttuX problems with Intel cards on Gutsy anyone?16:19
MattR37only 13% done with downloading 7.1016:19
emetwhere can I download gutsy gibbon that isn't slammed16:19
Charlottethe card is Broadcom bcm 4328 802.11 a/b/g/n16:19
Kehpketanyone knows how to use framebuffer in native resolution with radeon cards ?16:19
PocketBrai1AngryElf, use GPartED16:19
emetI can't find even a single working mirror ><16:19
Kehpketat boot time16:19
dredhammerhelp i have an emergency i just accidentally deleted my gutsy iso using the trash aplet is there anyway to get it back or do i have to download gutsy again?16:19
AngryElf_PocketBrai1: no GUI16:20
PovAddictemet: are you on feisty?16:20
L0GANwhere could I re-download the 7.04 release please?16:20
MasterShrekCharlieSu, never seen a 4328, try: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter16:20
nerdygirl_ellietatters: I don't think so, no...  Doesn't the installer install different packages based on the choices made during installation?16:20
stuporgluedredhammer: did you empty the trash?16:20
MattR37Emet: http://sanjaoquin.ussg.indiana.edu/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso16:20
ReubenGood evening...I think i just messed up with my Ubuntu install...it says error loading operating system. Can anyone assist?16:20
PovAddictL0GAN: why do you want 7.04?16:20
PocketBrai1well then PartED16:20
dredhammeryes unfortunately stuporglue16:20
ReubenI was trying to install Ubuntu on a system already installed with Windows XP.16:20
PovAddictdredhammer: probably nothing you can do16:20
Charlottewhen i type lspci gutsy see it i mean it is recogniseed but its not working :(16:20
L0GANPovAddict : until they fix the plugins for firefox I rather show 7.0416:20
Journeymananyone have any torrents for 7.10 release?16:20
jimFEDORA > UBUNTU16:20
stuporgluedredhammer: It'll be faster to download it again than to figure out how to resuscitate it16:21
remix5xCan anyone help me mount my Raid 5 array on ubuntu? or direct me to a read me or forum post about doing that?16:21
emetMattR37, verrry slow16:21
MasterShrekCharlotte, thats because you are missing firmwaer16:21
MasterShrekfirmware*16:21
Shaezscheso slow!16:21
soothsayerI put some packages on hold ('aptitude hold') but now I can't seem to unhold them ('aptitude unhold'). Anybody know what problem could be?16:21
Shaezsche20k/s on all servers!16:21
MattR37Quick question for a dual boot, XP/Gutsy, install...  Since gutsy can now read/write NTFS, there is not really a need for a 'common' FAT32 partition to share data, correct?16:21
Shaezscheso slow!16:21
CaBlGuY!gutsy16:21
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents16:21
Shaezscheis readwrite ntfs on by default?16:21
erUSULCharlotte: the fact that lspci shows a card there does not mean that a driver for it has benn loaded or exists16:21
Charlotteok so shoud i use ndiswraper again like in FF or16:21
nerdygirl_ellieShaezsche: thou shalt torrent and see that it is good.16:21
emetguys if you have bit torrent access PLEASE use bit torrent16:21
tattersnerdygirl_ellie: I guess each install is specific but if it knows what it actually  installed then I assume it could build a unique hash for each install, or something like that16:21
emetguys if you have bit torrent access PLEASE use bit torrent :D16:21
VletJourneyman: http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent16:21
Shaezsche!torrent16:21
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html16:21
Journeymanw00t16:21
tattersnerdygirl_ellie: even a error.txt after install would be usefull16:22
erUSUL!repeat > emet16:22
Reubeni was following a guide...but the new partitioning system didn't allow me to use the existing partition just kept on prompting me to use the entire HD which i didn't want to do. i don't want to overwrite my WIndows XP...so i did it manually, created some unpartitioned free space...and then asked ubuntu to guided use largest contiguous free space16:22
Shaezscheread/writing to ntfs is not safe, that BETTER not be on by default16:22
remix5xMattR37, correct, I am running just fine and seeing 2 out of 3 of my windows drive (the only one i cant see is a raid 5 array)16:22
Reubennow it won't boot up...what should i do?16:22
Charlotteoo i see16:22
nerdygirl_ellietatters: there is an install log too.  maybe in /root?  I don't remember where it lives... has to be /root or /var/log16:22
Jake_001i have a geforce fx5200 card.  the shutdown splash goes scrambled. not really an issue but she weird. anyone know why?16:22
Reubenwould appreciate any help people can provide...16:22
Instabin|Workcrap16:22
MattR37Remix5s, Thanks16:22
CaBlGuYis there an "official" gutsy channel now?16:22
Instabin|Worki cant get back in to #ubuntu+116:22
mc44CaBlGuY: this16:22
L0GANShaezsche : I think it was mentioned in some notes16:22
afiefCaBlGuY, yes16:22
soothsayerCaBlGuY: You're in it16:22
emetMattR37, that mirror is literarly going 5KBs16:22
VletAnyone know if the 'Screens and Graphics' tool should (or should I say, why it doesn't) find my second monitor?16:22
Charlotteany chance to add restricted drivers for it or i have to use ndiswrapper16:22
MasterShrekcableroy, right here16:22
mc44Instabin|Work: it's closed16:23
CaBlGuYok,.16:23
Instabin|Workmc44: i was just in there16:23
Shaezscheguys16:23
cyclonutany idea why suspend only works in KDE, and not gnome, in gutsy?16:23
tattersnerdygirl_ellie: thnx ill go seek it out16:23
Shaezscheis ntfs write enabled by default?16:23
frozty_sahi...how can I install my gribbon install to ntfs?16:23
erUSUL!bcm43xx | Charlotte16:23
ubotuCharlotte: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx16:23
MattR37I'm getting a tad better, at about 20KBs16:23
mc44Instabin|Work: its now closed16:23
Shaezschefrozty_sa dont do that, its not safe yet16:23
cyclonutmattr- why download from the servers? why not torrent?16:23
cyclonutI just finished my download in about 30 minutes from bittorrent16:23
MattR37Never used torrent16:23
L0GANmeh I wiped my 7.04 from hdd16:23
W9ZEBhow would I go about issuing the following at boot time?   cpufreq-set -d 800Mhz     cpufreq-set -u 1.8Ghz    cpufreq-set -g conservative16:23
VletShaezsche: it appears to be - I just tried it after a fresh install16:23
MattR37Guess I should download it16:23
nerdygirl_ellieMattR37: the Torrent is running at 12mb/s at my hosted server.16:24
MattR37wow16:24
Charlotteyea i know that16:24
remix5xIs mounting a raid array fairly complecated in linux?16:24
CaBlGuYI'm in 6-10 and when I try to upgrade to 7-04 I can't get past the boot screen but, I want Gutsy..   is there a way to upgrade to Gutsy form 6-10?16:24
ShaezscheVlet over time, you risk corrupting data16:24
Shaezschenot worth it16:24
frozty_saShaezsche: safe?16:24
ae88925will the gutsy release use the same repo's as gutsy rc?16:24
MattR37what is a decent winxp torrent?16:24
ralphohow come with a new release the torrents are not on linux tracker16:24
benzondo any one know if theres a reppo up for compiz addons yet or16:24
erUSULW9ZEB: use /etc/rc.local16:24
Jake_001i have a geforce fx5200 card.  the shutdown splash goes scrambled. not really an issue but she weird. anyone know why?16:24
PovAddictMattR37: WTF16:24
Shaezschesomeone tell me if ntfs is enabled by default? i want it off!16:24
Whitoroh my, I found the solution to my unable to control brighness issue... I have to ctrl-alt-f1 change brightness  then ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to x. bizzare....16:24
frozty_saI just need to install this on the vista pc16:24
Charlottei was just hoping that this time im not going to go thrue ndiswrapper16:24
seu_barrigaMattR37, you should... the ubuntu servers are congestioned16:24
stray77utorrent for xp16:24
[11Touche]does someone got dual-head to work in gutsy ??  worked perfectly in Feisty, but since the update, only clone mode works16:24
cyclonutralpho: must have just not been added yet16:24
MattR37Ok, downloading utorrent16:24
* L0GAN googles16:24
Shaezscheomg that torrent is slow as hell16:24
Reubenmmmmmm am i missing some protocol to ask my question?16:24
nerdygirl_ellieae88925: yes.  if you were using the RC repos, then you apt-get update and viola you are on the release.16:24
Shaezscheis there different torrent links?16:24
W9ZEBerUSUL: just add those three lines above exit 016:24
xchat!topic16:24
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Reubeni tried googling but none of them cover ubuntu 7.1016:24
nerdygirl_ellieReuben: what's your question?16:24
VletShaezsche: I generally don't mess with my ntfs partition in nix... you asked if it was enabled by default :)16:24
stuporglueReuben : What's your question?16:24
frozty_saShaezsche: I just need to install this on the vista pc16:25
CaBlGuYanyone???16:25
disasm[11Touche]: did you compare the xorg.conf with the one before the upgrade?16:25
erUSULW9ZEB: yes and make the file executable (read the comments on the file)16:25
CaBlGuYI'm in 6-10 and when I try to upgrade to 7-04 I can't get past the boot screen but, I want Gutsy..   is there a way to upgrade to Gutsy form 6-10?16:25
Reubennerdygirl_elii was following a guide...but the new partitioning system didn't allow me to use the existing partition just kept on prompting me to use the entire HD which i didn't want to do. i don't want to overwrite my WIndows XP...so i did it manually, created some unpartitioned free space...and then asked ubuntu to guided use largest contiguous free space16:25
morpheusis there a way to backup a running ubuntu box?16:25
ae88925nerdygirl_ellie: perfect, thanks16:25
Charlotteand one more thing i dont know why but gutsu simse to be slower the FF on my laptop :(16:25
erUSULCaBlGuY: nope16:25
Charlottedont know why but os true16:25
Reubennerdygirl_ellie: now it says erro loading operating system16:25
Charlotteis**16:25
stray77if youre in canada and using cable (rogers or cogeco) your ability to download torrents will suck. they are "bandwidth shaping" and using QoS to kill torrent traffic now.16:25
[11Touche]disasm: yes, and I tried to roll back to the old xorg.conf, but didn't work, it went in safe-display mode :(16:25
Vletfrozty_sa: Ubuntu has a tool built into the installer to automatically resize your vista partition to make room for ubuntu's ext3 partition16:25
Baikonurnice16:25
stuporgluemorpheus : what kind of backup? Whole disk, or just all your files?16:26
Reubennerdygirl_ellie and stuporglue: so now I have loaded into teh live cd again. i see two separate partitions one with ubuntu looking files and the other with windows xp16:26
frozty_saVlet: I can't do that16:26
Baikonurjust spilled pepsi on my laptop and headphones16:26
Vletfrozty_sa: Why?16:26
Reubennerdygirl_ellie: but i can't get my ubuntu to load16:26
kowesixanyone knows a reason why i cant mount my external hdd (ntfs) even tho i installed the ntfs configuration tool (+enabled it for external drives)16:26
morpheusstuporglue:whole disk16:26
CaBlGuY*sighs*....16:26
Charlottei will see how it goes and if after karnel compilation is the same i will downgreat to FF again16:26
benzondo any one know if theres a reppo up for compiz addons yet or??16:26
stuporgluemorpheus : You can't do whole disk backup while the disk is in use. You could use a live CD, then take an image of your drive using dd though16:26
nerdygirl_ellieReuben: It sounds like your partition didn't get set as bootable or Grub didn't get put in.  I'm sorry, can't help.  You should have another /boot partition I think, but I'm going to scoot out of this one before I cause you any trouble.16:26
emet10,000 seeders on the offical torrent16:26
emet:D16:26
[11Touche]disasm: is there a way to turn off autodetection? I don't care running in console to get the problem solved, but with autodetect, it seems like it won't even try my edited xorg16:26
frozty_saVlet: because that will break vista, won't it?16:26
Megagun_Does anyone here know why the Kernel does not seem to load properly on my Lenovo Thinkpad T60p, which is a core2duo laptop? The CD is fine (checked on my AMD Athlon64) but for some reason, whenever I try to install, it gets stuck at "Loading Linux Kernel"...16:27
Vletfrozty_sa: no, it won't.16:27
stuporglueReuben : how are you on the command line?16:27
drekthe other day i installed 7.10 beta, and would like to upgrade to the release, but the update manager says there are no updates16:27
morpheusstuporglue: dd?16:27
newguyhey there im having some very very big problems with Gutsy!!! its totally trashed my gui!!!16:27
mc44!final | drek16:27
newguyi cant see anything at all16:27
ubotudrek: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.16:27
nerdygirl_ellie!final16:27
Reubenstuporglue: i'm not on the command line atm i'm on the live cd thing at the moment16:27
afieffrozty_sa, what is that tool?:D my friend's gonna install today and she got a nasty vista partition16:27
avarnerwell congrats ubuntu, you made it tot 7.1016:27
* tw2113 humps the wall in excitement over a gibbon16:27
JovaroCharlotte, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong, I can ssh to the pc from another pc and gnome seems to be running16:27
rzekaHello. I am downloading alternate version of Ubuntu 7.10. How can I add CD to sources.list to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 ?16:27
Jovarobut the screen is black anyway16:27
Vletfrozty_sa: It resizes Vista's partition to be a little bit smaller to give some room for an ubuntu parition.16:27
frozty_saafief: I don't know! vlet told me!16:27
PovAddicthttp://metamirrors.nl/node/13916:28
newguyi tried the screen changer thing menu, and choose samsung/syncmaster as my scree and a reso of 1280x1024, then rebooted now i cant see anything at all! its all messed up!!!16:28
stuporglueReuben: right, but are you OK with me telling you command line things to type? also, is the ubuntu partition mounted?16:28
tattersAnyone know if ubuntu encryption option during install EFS allows me to save the private key( I beleive thats the correct key) to removable media such as the same way I can do in windows using syskey to prevent brute forcing16:28
drekthank you16:28
soothsayerCan someone explain what 'aptitude forget-new' does?16:28
newguyplease help!16:28
[11Touche]is it me or Xorg 7.3 wasn't ready for a major release like Ubuntu?16:28
Charlotteso...?16:28
afiefVlet, what's the tool to do the resizing for you? my friend's gonna install today16:28
udohello all. I have a probably stupid newbie question. I am on Feisty running a kernel I made some changes too. When using the upgrade function to gutsy, will it use a new kernel and my personal settings are gone?16:28
Vletsoothsayer: man aptitude16:28
newguyi cant use the gui! i can only log in with the recovery way, and only have the CLI16:28
Vletafief: it's built into the installer16:28
Reubenstuporglue: yes if u can tell me how to open up the command line in the first place i sure can type things u ask me to. how do i check if the ubuntu partition is mounted. I see a new partition called disk with all the bin boot cdrom dev all the ubuntu stuff in there16:28
Charlotteu said that u get black screen after boot and i told u to use nosplash noapic16:28
soothsayerVlet: Have you read the description?16:28
stuporglueudo, yes, but your kernel will likely still be in the grub list for you to choose16:28
therethinkerHmm... my friend has the RC, how can he upgrade? i'm sorry if this was asked a million times before...16:28
Charlotteis this help16:28
frozty_sagah16:28
afiefVlet, thanks:D that's good to hear16:29
Jovaroi still get a black screen16:29
nerdygirl_ellienewguy: ask this question:  "I buggered my display configuration.. what's the command to reset it to default?  maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver" or something like that....16:29
rzekaHello. I am downloading alternate version of Ubuntu 7.10. How can I add CD to sources.list to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 ?16:29
afieftherethinker, normal upgrade gets you to the release16:29
Charlottetry to edit ur xorg.conf16:29
udostuporglue: so I could run gutsy with my old kernel?16:29
therethinkerhe says its not showing up16:29
newguyHelp!!! I buggered my display configuration.. what's the command to reset it to default? maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver!??16:29
seu_barrigarzeka, try apt-cdrom add16:29
afiefrzeka, putting the CD into the drive will ask you if you want to add it to your sources16:29
rzekaThanks16:29
nerdygirl_ellienewguy: :)16:29
Charlottewhat is ur v-card16:29
rredd4how come my gutsy rc won't upgrade to the final?16:29
ganes1how to enable universe16:29
nerdygirl_ellie!final | rredd416:29
uboturredd4: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.16:29
[11Touche]newguy: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg I think16:30
Jovaronvidia 760016:30
Charlottelike mine16:30
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Charlottei have the same16:30
newguyill try now thanks16:30
rzekaIf I upgrade to 7.10 I won't lose installed software right?16:30
Charlotteand ur running hp laptop16:30
avarnerrzeka: correct16:30
Reubenstuporglue: okie i just opened terminal via accessoresi terminal16:30
Vletsoothsayer: So, it basically is telling aptitude to ignore new packages... a way of telling aptitude that you don't care about those new packages16:30
Charlottedv........ something right16:30
nerdygirl_ellieganes1: system -> administration -> software sources  and check the box for universe16:30
avarnerrzeka: you're good to go if you're just upgrading16:30
stuporglueReuben: Alt+F2 and type "gnome-terminal" or go to Applications-->Accessories-->Terminal16:30
Reubenstuporglue: yep am there already :P16:31
ElkoWhere can I find a list with the problems that others experience with this new version?  I don't want to end up with a borken system like last time.16:31
* PeacefulCheeta waves at everybody and says hello16:31
soothsayerVlet: What constitutes a 'new' package? What does it mean "don't care about new packages"? Don't install them?16:31
erUSUL!hi | PeacefulCheeta16:31
ubotuPeacefulCheeta: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!16:31
stuporglueudo: It depends if your kernel supports everything that Gutsy needs. It is pretty likely that you could16:31
CharlotteJovaro i had exactlu the same problem but ading nosplash noapic solve my problem16:31
Reubennerdygirl_ellie: oh btw forgot to say thank you for attempting to help:P and no this isn't sarcasm i appreciate the effort16:31
nerdygirl_ellieElko: they should flow into launchpad pretty quickly, but this is the real-time source.  What issues did/do you have?16:31
* tw2113 shakes head and leaves16:32
PeacefulCheetaDoes anybody know what I need to install to get gaming AND compiz working with an ATi card?16:32
nerdygirl_ellieReuben: np at all.  Do more good than harm, et al.16:32
tattersAnyone used the option to encrypt whole drive during install tell me if it offers to save the private key on removasble media?16:32
stuporglueReuben: type "sudo su", then type "mount". Mount will show what's mounted16:32
JovaroCharlotte, doesn't solve mine, I am not on a laptop btw16:32
nerdygirl_elliePeacefulCheeta: XP?16:32
Charlottehmm16:32
nerdygirl_elliePeacefulCheeta: :)16:32
Elkonerdygirl_ellie: Last time X didn't want to start anymore, I was able to fix it, but it was just messy ;)16:32
JovaroI am trying to make xorg.conf more basic now16:32
Reubenstuporglue: alright what should i be looking for. ican't exactly cut and paste from that system16:32
nerdygirl_ellieElko: What video card did/do you have?16:32
Jovaroit includes a tv at the moment16:32
udo@ stuporglue: i run a variation of 2.6.20.3. Is there a place to look it up?16:32
ae88925you don't need to be root to run 'mount'16:32
ae88925you need to be root to run 'mount /dev /point'16:33
[11Touche]Elko: if X crashes, it starts in safe-graphics mode, on a vesa driver, to let you get into Gnome, unlike before16:33
Charlottewell try in the forum search type noapic and see the treads there are some other parameters that u can use16:33
nerdygirl_ellieae88925: that depends on the mountpoint and device16:33
stuporglueudo: not that I know16:33
Vletsoothsayer: Like, available updates. Let's say you have 'zoink' installed, and a new version of it is released. You update your package lists, and then go to update all your packages. You see that a new version of 'zoink' is about to be installed, but you don't want it, so you execute that command, then run the update again, and now aptitude will think there are no available updates.16:33
Elkonerdygirl_ellie: That was a... damn, can't remember what my former machine had. I've got NVidia now.16:33
udok, thx anyway :)16:33
jdongae88925: you need to be root to moutn anything that's not specified in fstab with the "user" option16:33
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stuporglueReuben: something like /media/disk, where if you go to that location with the file browser you see a bunch of ubuntu/linux files16:33
Reubenstuporglue: i see /dev/sda2 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev)16:33
tattersShouldnt u know be abel to deleate xorg.conf and it should still boot to grpahical interface?16:33
stuporglueReuben:yeah, that's probably it16:33
cellofellowthis - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/134351/comments/24 - links to a page that has a fix for my sound, but I don't know how to get in.16:33
Reubenstuporglue: that's the one with all the ubuntu files16:33
stuporglueReuben: one sec.16:34
cellofellowoops, never mind16:34
soothsayerVlet: Perfect thanks16:34
cellofellowthere was a READ ONLY option.16:34
nerdygirl_ellieElko: On the gutsy upgrade, my dell d830 nvidia card "just worked" with the restricted driver.  No fiddling required.16:34
Reubenstuporglue: i also see /media/hitachi 320gb type fuseblk which is hprobably my XP one16:34
generalsnusDammit.. my 8800gtx is cooking :(  82C now.. and fan speed is at minimum...16:34
PeacefulCheetanerdygirl ellie: no I want it on Gutsy :S16:34
cellofellow:P16:34
* AlexJTanner is waiting for the torrent to finish16:34
Seta-Sananyone care to test this http://70.187.19.196:8080/forum/16:34
joevandykHas the performance problem with gusty been fixed yet?  any time i do anything with the hard drive, it locks up completely for a bit16:34
Elkonerdygirl_ellie: Ok, thanks for that - but I still think I'll wait a few days before doing the upgrade. bye.16:34
nerdygirl_ellieSeta-San: loads for me.16:34
soothsayerVlet: So how would I undo that?16:35
emethello I have the gibbon, what now?16:35
jdongSeta-San: off topic16:35
joevandyklooks like a kernel issue?  trackerd is the culprit16:35
nerdygirl_ellieElko: good luck!16:35
joevandykor the symptom -- using a lot of cpu16:35
AlexJTannerSeta-San: can you help me setting up an ubuntu server16:35
sylverfoxhi everybody16:35
nerdygirl_elliejoevandyk: do you have beagle running?  the index on mine took for ever....16:35
RAdamsAlexJTanner: #ubuntu-server16:35
Vletsoothsayer: I don't know16:35
Baikonuremet: now you do whatever you do with a computer16:35
RAdamsdoes the graphical installer allow for encrypted volumes now?16:35
sylverfoxcould somebody help me in connection with nvidia restricted driver16:35
RAdamsor only the alternate iso still?16:36
nerdygirl_ellieemet: "Applications -> games!"16:36
Vletsoothsayer: There must be a way... read through the man, and see if there is a way to flush all information aptitude has16:36
nerdygirl_elliesylverfox: what do you want to know?16:36
emetnerdygirl_ellie, good idea16:36
nerdygirl_ellie!ask16:36
soothsayerVlet: Alright thanks16:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)16:36
sylverfoxjust to set it up16:36
joevandyknerdygirl_ellie, it's been doing this for a week or so.  i don't think i have beagle installed (but if it comes autoinstalled with gusty, then i guess i do)16:36
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: it isn't working16:36
stuporglueReuben: visit http://pastebin.com/m75f0c36c16:36
Charlottehey guys hot to install build-essentials from gutsu CD16:36
Reubenokiedokies16:36
Charlottehow*16:36
RAdamscharlotte: apt-get install build-essential16:37
joevandyki mean, the load on my machine gets up to 20 or so whenever i update something on the disk.16:37
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie:  after restart appears the xorg set up tool16:37
Charlottethanx16:37
Megagun_Anyone here knows what could cause Ubuntu installation CD not going past "Loading /casper/initrd.gz..." on my Lenovo Thinkpad T60p (core2duo)?16:37
AlexJTannerthe question is weither or not I will be get the ISO in time to install before I have to go to school16:37
cjae/dev/sda:16:37
cjae Timing cached reads:   1436 MB in  2.00 seconds = 717.58 MB/sec16:37
cjae Timing buffered disk reads:   56 MB in  3.07 seconds =  18.22 MB/sec16:37
joevandykis there no more ubuntu+1 channel?16:37
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: "sudp apt-get install build-essentials" or system -> admin -> synaptic search for build-essential check install check apply."16:37
skateguyorg16:37
bcardarellaIs there a torrent available for 7.10 desktop?16:37
cjaeare these good timings16:37
cjae?16:37
Reubenstuporglue: oh btw before i do this, i'm trying to achieve a dual boot system16:37
Reubenstuporglue: is this the way to do it?16:37
PocketBrai1yay, 100% on the Torrent now.  I'm a seeder!16:37
susscorfayes ethe is bcardarella16:38
EruantalonMegagun_: Perhaps a faulty cd.. check it for defects16:38
Jovarostill nothing.. aargh16:38
Megagun_I checked for defects on this other PC. Nothing there.16:38
susscorfayes there is bcardarella http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent16:38
ocean-drWollte eben nmap installieren und dann hab ich bei make zum schluß folgenden fehler erhalten:16:38
ocean-dr:loadlib.c:(.text+0x1a0): undefined reference to `dlopen'16:38
ocean-dr:loadlib.c:(.text+0x1c1): undefined reference to `dlerror'16:38
ocean-drcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status16:38
ocean-drmake: *** [nmap] Error 116:38
susscorfaow w8 that is the dvd16:38
AlexJTannerbcardarella: yes there is http://releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent16:38
Megagun_Checking for defects on my laptop doesn't work since it tries to load the kernel first, which doesn't work.16:38
ocean-drwarum?16:38
cjaecan anyone help me with hdparm.conf16:38
sylverfoxso, noone here, who can help me, on how could i set up the nvidia restricted driver?????16:38
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nerdygirl_elliejoevandyk: weird.  open system monitor and see what it's doing.16:38
RAdamspocketbrai1: thanks!16:38
RAdamsfor seeding16:39
AlexJTannerwhat is the difference between the DVD and the normal install16:39
PocketBrain1y/w, I will leave it up.16:39
EruantalonMegagun_: Sometimes some drives have problems reading cd that has been burned at to high i speed16:39
joevandyknerdygirl_ellie, the cpu is spending most of it's time "Waiting".  not running or sleeping.16:39
Reubenstuporglue: let me know when u see this :P16:39
AlexJTanneranyone?16:39
nerdygirl_elliesylverfox: there is a lot going on with the release, and so far you haven't described the problem.  Installing the module with system -> admin -> restricted modules usually works, if it doesn't work, then describe the problem.16:39
AlexJTannerwhat is special about the DVD16:39
ZeD-is there a wya to start a text mode install using the desktop cd >16:40
ZeD-?16:40
naliothAlexJTanner: a few more install options and a few more packages16:40
ZeD-or only alternate ?16:40
naliothZeD-: just the alternate, iirc16:40
diaficgoing home now. BYe16:40
alainei guys can i burn a file if im just using a live CD16:40
nerdygirl_elliejoevandyk: is something using all of the ram?  system monitor -> sort by memory.16:40
AlexJTannernalioth: thanks16:40
naliothAlexJTanner: if you have a free cd burning drive, yes16:40
nikin_Today i will install Gutsy on my notebook, and pray that it works better than 7.04 did16:40
nerdygirl_elliejoevandyk: it could do that if it was running in to swap.16:40
nerdygirl_ellienikin_: what kind of laptop?16:40
joevandyknerdygirl_ellie, it's not.16:41
sylverfoxnvidia driver prblem, please help!!!16:41
joevandyknerdygirl_ellie, my research shows that it's a kernel bug16:41
stuporglueReuben: These commands will get your Ubuntu up to date. If it wastn't working because of a borked update, then yes.16:41
nikin_nerdygirl_ellie: Clevo M120C16:41
alainim using the 7.04 live CD now.. and i want to burn the 7.10 iso.. is it possible???16:41
dreki installed kwlan in hopes it would help when connecting to secure networks, but i can't even get the wireless card to pickup SSIDs anymore16:41
nerdygirl_ellienikin_: can't help, sorry, :(  never heard of that one.16:41
com4When I dist-upgraded to gutsy, my gnome-panel started stretching across both of my monitors. I checked my xorg.conf and it's still setup for twinview. How do I make my gnome-panel stop stretching across both monitors?16:41
AlexJTannerdoes the DVD important enough to stop the download I am already in16:41
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: my problem is that the installed driver rushes away my xorg.conf16:41
AlexJTanneris16:41
joevandyknerdygirl_ellie, see http://jamiemcc.livejournal.com/9520.html16:41
nikin_did anyoone get his/her hand on an ASUS eee 4G surf yet?16:42
sylverfoxafter restarting have no X16:42
stuporglueReuben: With a working bootable ubuntu you should be able to boot your computer to Ubuntu and add Wndows more easily than from the live CD. I don't use Windows so I don't know how to do it off the top of my head16:42
soglemath program suggestion?16:42
tattersis there a cheatcode to run the livecd in ram only to free up cd rom16:42
nerdygirl_elliecom4: mine was doing that too, I removed "xgl-server" and rebooted, now it's right.16:42
com4nerdygirl_ellie: i'll try that. thanks16:42
Reubenstuporglue: Ah...cause i have al ot of windows stuff installed as it is...so a bit scared...and it was a clean install16:42
VeinorHow good is the upgrade process from Feisty to Gutsy?16:42
alainany idea if i can burn an iso if im just using a live CD16:42
Reubenstuporglue: as in this is my first ubuntu install16:42
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: i see you are very busy, is here anybody else who could help?16:42
nerdygirl_elliesylverfox: rushes away... you mean overwrites?  yes, it has to change the display section to install the driver.16:42
Veinornot worth the risks, or is it safe, or what?16:42
Picialain: no.16:43
Picialain: unless you have another optical drive.16:43
stuporglueReuben: Did the installer not work? It usually auto-detects any windows versions that are already installed and automatically sets up the dualboot16:43
Lobosquewhats the next version name? =]16:43
soglemath program suggestion?16:43
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: yes but the new xorg.conf doesn't work16:43
PocketBrain1Pici: alain: yeah, two optical drives.16:43
Pici!hardy | Lobosque16:43
ubotuLobosque: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron16:43
VletVeinor: It's safe... They wouldn't have released it if it wasn't :)16:43
nerdygirl_ellieVeinor: seems to work for most... there are some grumblings about rarer broadcom cards not working, but so far so good.16:43
alainyes i have 2 drives16:43
alaintnx16:43
soglemath program suggestion?16:43
nikin_nerdygirl_ellie: it was released under a lot of names, the problem on 7.04 was that the CPU thermal cheking was bad and returned aroun 200-3500 ?C at random a shutt down16:43
JovaroVeinor: I had a 50% succes. 1 pc worked fine with the upgrade, the other just gets a black screen16:43
com4nerdygirl_ellie: that was it. thanks :)16:43
alainill try to install16:43
tatters<--- looking forward to zippy zebra16:43
VeinorVlet: Well, of course gutsy itself is safe ;) I'm talking about upgrading from a live Feisty install16:43
Reubenstuporglue: it asked me where did i want to install it and i didn't quite know where to put it16:43
AlexJTannerVersion 8.10 should be called Sexy Squirill16:44
AlexJTannerdammit16:44
AlexJTannercan't spell16:44
nerdygirl_elliesylverfox: Great!  now we are getting somewhere.  After the reboot you get a black screen?16:44
Reubenstuporglue: so what i did was repartition my hard drive to have some free space16:44
Reubenstuporglue: and then asked it to guided use largest contiguous16:44
VletVeinor: I did the upgrade, and it went very smooth16:44
stuporglueReuben: sounds good so far, that's what I would have done16:44
sylverfoxyes, and it starts the tool newly implemented, for setting up, the xorg.conf16:44
Veinorok, cool.16:44
Reubenstuporglue: i was scared it would format everything since it said USE ENTIRE DISK16:44
FlimFlamMangibbon livecd - no panel or menus on dell precision 34016:44
AlexJTannerSexy Squirrel16:44
VletVeinor: found a fast mirror, 10 minutes later, I had gutsy16:44
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: where you can choose, your monitor, and so on16:45
Reubenstuporglue: unlike the other screenshots, which had a use free space option or something this one didn't..16:45
drekcan anyone help with kwlan connecting using PEAP?16:45
Mad_bolhi all16:45
stuporglueReuben: I might try a reinstall then. So you don't have anything important on your Ubuntu partition?16:46
Mad_bolanyone help to mi ubuntu tis down?????16:46
Reubenstuporglue: nope nothing at all16:46
VletMad_bol: what?16:46
Mad_bolata3: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)16:46
Mad_bolmy server its down ...16:46
DarcTraveler_ /server irc.bondage.com16:46
chookjoin ubuntu-fr16:46
Se1Hi everyone16:46
VletMad_bol: A remote server?16:46
nerdygirl_elliesylverfox: ok,  I think that is the "safe mode" tool.  So your question should be... ...  "Hello.  I have a _fillintheblank_ nvidia video card and installing the linux-restricted driver drops me in to safe mode.  What log files can i check to see if the nvidia driver is throwing any errors?"16:47
Reubenstuporglue: u see i don't have this option in my setup: http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feistydual06rw5.png16:47
FlimFlamManwhere are the release notes for gibbon?16:47
Mad_bolyes16:47
Se1I don't manage to upgrade my system tu gutsy. Any help ?16:47
jdongFlimFlamMan: the big button on the homepage16:47
Reubenstuporglue: i don't have the first guided resize IDE master...16:47
VletMad_bol: Well, how do you know that it's not simply a connectivity problem?16:47
Mad_bolyesterday aply de apt-get dist-upgrade and now appears "ata3: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)"16:47
sylverfoxok, nerdygirl_ellie, whats next?16:47
jdongFlimFlamMan: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour16:47
PeacefulCheetahello everyone, when i try to use the restricted ati drivers i get the error: xorg-driver-fglrx is not enabled, what to do?16:47
askandI have compiz enabled but I still get a black bar when using avant windows navigator..anyone knows why?16:48
FlimFlamManthanks.  the top half of the home page isn't displaying for me, btw16:48
stuporglueReuben: Ok, why don't you do a reinstall then. in the command line type this stuff : http://pastebin.com/16:48
MasterShrekPeacefulCheeta, try: sudo apt-get insatll xorg-driver-fglrx16:48
Jovaronerdygirl_ellie, i have a geforce 7600 gs videocard and all I get is a black screen, which log files can I check to look for problems?16:48
VletMad_bol: but gutsy wasn't releasted until this morning16:48
Charlotteo-oo i have another problem with my gutsu mu usb prots are not working :(:(:(:(16:48
tattersAnyone used the alternative cd Encrypt whole drive option yet?16:48
Reubenstuporglue: that's not a full pastebin url is it?16:48
stuporglueReuben: this I mean: http://pastebin.com/m53fbdf4216:48
bipolarAre there any tools in Ubuntu's install to make use of full disk encryption? What I would really like is a system that has /boot on a removable USB drive (which would also contain the keys) so that nothing on the laptop is unencrypted.16:48
nerdygirl_elliesylverfox jovaro look in your xsession log and /var/log/messages files to see if there are any errors there.16:48
FlimFlamManjdong:  is there a "stuff that doesn't work" section>??>?16:48
MasterShrekCharlotte, did u get your wifi working?16:48
FlimFlamMan(oops)16:48
jusski!iso16:48
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.16:48
Charlotteyes16:48
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: ok i doo it right now16:49
Charlotteby ndiswrapper16:49
MasterShrekick16:49
epowellhow do i join an active directory domain?16:49
Charlotteand the bcm driver16:49
stuporglueReuben: Then go to System->Administration->Gparted or Partition Editor16:49
gary4gar!MD516:49
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:49
nerdygirl_elliesylverfox jovaro: something like cat /var/log/messages | grep -i -E'nvidia|error'16:49
nerdygirl_ellieand for xsession too.16:49
Se1Grrrr ! I can't go from feisty to gutsy16:49
MasterShrekSe1, why not?16:49
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MasterShrek!upgrade16:49
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes16:49
Mad_bolhow to fix mi server ???16:50
nerdygirl_ellieepowell: You'll have better luck in a samba forum, or on a quieter day.16:50
tattersbipolar  the ubuntu 7.10 alternative cd provides an option to encrypt whole drive it called EFS  which is same acronym  as windowsEFS16:50
nerdygirl_ellieMad_bol: what's broken?16:50
Reubenstuporglue: alright so don't use the inbuilt one?16:50
Charlottei added noapic parameter becouse without it after the splash i get black screen, and now my usb ports are not working what to do any ideas16:50
epowellokiee dokie...thanks16:50
FlimFlamManis there a bug list for gibbon?16:50
nerdygirl_ellietatters: Neat!16:50
AlexJTannerok time to eat, by the time I get back it should be installed16:50
stuporglueReuben: We're going to set it up so the built in has an easier job. Is the partition editor open?16:50
AlexJTannerI mean downloaded16:50
Se1MasterShrek: Don't know. Cannot pas the prerequisit16:50
jdongFlimFlamMan: the release notes (not the tour) linked shows stuff don't work info16:50
Charlotteany ideas hot to mke them work ?16:50
Redleerhmm what command should i use when installing with rpm?16:51
VletFlimFlamMan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/16:51
Veinorhmm, the upgrade seems to have hung on 'fetching file 44 of 51'16:51
eriksGREAT work all involved with Ubuntu! for the first time everything works after less then an hour of config wifi graphics all! Thanx alot!16:51
nerdygirl_ellie!rpm16:51
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)16:51
FlimFlamManjdong, Vlet, thanks,16:51
Redleerty16:51
gary4garFlimFlamMan, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/16:51
PeacefulCheetathank you16:51
PeacefulCheetahmm, yet another error: sudo apt-get insatll xorg-driver-fglrx16:51
PeacefulCheetae: Couldn't findpacket xorg-driver-fglrx16:51
Vletgary4gar: better link. thanks :)16:51
Reubenstuporglue: yea16:51
* morpheus cant wait to get home to DL gutsy, work just crippled my download :(16:52
Vletmorpheus: strike!16:52
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: i found 3 lines in messages16:52
nerdygirl_elliePeacefulCheeta: search for xorg-driver with synaptic, or if you are CLI, apt-cache search xorg-driver | less16:52
stuporglueReuben: Ok, find the ext3 partition and right click and delete it. Also delete any swap partitions if there is one16:52
Charlotteanybody :(16:52
nerdygirl_ellie!pastebin | sylverfox16:52
ubotusylverfox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)16:52
Reubenstuporglue: ok sec it is scanning :P16:52
gary4garVlet, No problem16:52
stuporglueReuben: eg. We'll leave a bunch of free space. Then hit apply to save the changes16:52
dallinghamI have created a local mirror of the gutsy repos, but how do I get update-manager to not use the old repositories?16:53
Reubenstuporglue: it's taking some time to scan the devices16:53
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41075/16:53
JovaroI am getting "ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found." in /var/log/messages, can this have anything to do with getting a black screen?16:53
peepsalotmorpheus, hehe, me too.  I would break our crappy t1 if I downloaded from work now.  just 6 more hrs. :-/16:53
beast_i get the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41074/ when i try to apt-get build essentials, but don't have the cd with me. Is there any way around it?16:53
Charlottei think there was parameter that i have to add after noapic to make my usb ports to work but i forgot i tried to search in teh forum but no luck :( anyone remember what was....?16:53
DarcTraveler /server irc.bondage.com16:54
Fat_FerretHey guys i am having a slight problem, I am installing from a cd to 7.10 from 7.04 I need to use the partition I was using for linux b4 so i dont mess up my xp install16:54
Reubenstuporglue: is everything ok? this gparted seems to be taking longer than the installer or is it just being thorough16:54
Megagun_nerdygirl_ellie: Thanks. Reburning the installation CD at a lower burn speed did indeed do the trick. Didn't think that such a trivial thing would actually harm anything. Thanks again. :)16:54
morpheuspeepsalot: it was at 79% here <sobs>16:54
Fat_FerretHow do I know which to use as /16:54
syngin001sound still not working after latest release16:54
Nashuhere's a problem : cannot view a presentation in Open Office Presentation (power point equivalent for MS )16:54
Mad_bolmy server it's to slow, yesterday aply the dist-upgrade and now appears16:54
Mad_bolata3: port failed to redpond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)16:54
stuporglueReuben: Gparted might just take a little while. It probably has to read off the CD16:54
Mad_bolataa3.00; exception Enmask 0x0 SAct oxo SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen16:54
generalsnusconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables ..what does this mean?16:54
ryugakaI had something close to that myself Mad.16:54
nerdygirl_elliebeast_: Comment out the cdrom: line in your /etc/apt/sources.list, or disable it with system -> admin -> software sources16:54
nerdygirl_elliegeneralsnus: apt-get install build-essentials16:55
knaHi .. when i install gtk 1.2 i get an error, i can configure but i can not use "make", WHY?16:55
stuporglueReuben: you can try to open it again if it's not coming up16:55
Reubenstuporglue: okie sec16:55
ryugakaI went back to Dapper.16:55
knaanyone help plz16:55
ARJonesJust for anybody that is looking for a working mirror, the easynews mirror is very fast, and updating 7.04 for me without any issues16:55
ryugakaBecause Fiesty kept freezing on me.16:55
nerdygirl_elliekna: that's off topic for this group, but what's the error?16:55
knaum wait plz16:55
PeacefulCheetanerdygirl_ellie: it still won't find anything, but when i went to my repositories none of them were checked, this isn't right, is it?16:55
nerdygirl_elliekna: and are you sure there isn't a deb for it anywhere?16:55
generalsnusE: Couldn't find package build-essentials16:55
tattersdallingham i use apt-cacher which saves any package downloads so can be served to my LAN to save bandwith but unlike apt-proxy I had to edit the source lists on each machine16:55
Jovarois there a way to go back to feisty without installing feisty again?16:55
kduboi1why is my internet soo slow! its taking forever to get gutsy!16:56
nefoiaI'm new to java, could someone clarify something for me?16:56
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: did you get the link?16:56
nefoiaJava has no exact equivalent to C's scanf(), fscanf() and sscanf() functions, Pascal's read() and readln() function, or Fortran's READ* function. In particular there's no one method that lets you get input from the user as a numeric value.16:56
knawell i dont know, i wanted to run airsnort, and its says it uses tk 1.216:56
CoolMattykduboi1: it's because everyone else is downloading it too16:56
Reubenstuporglue: okie it's scanning again... hmm16:56
knaso i installed it16:56
nerdygirl_elliePeacefulCheeta: no, you need some of them checked.  one sec.16:56
nefoiaWhat method is used to get user input in java?16:56
PeacefulCheetathank you16:56
peepsalotkduboi1, probably because everyone else and their mom is also downloading it at the same time16:56
ryugakaso i want to change my aterm16:56
dallinghamtatters: Editing the list causes errors. It seems the upgrade process doesn't like the switching of repositories. I don't have a local mirror of feisty, and it seems to be looking for it.16:56
nerdygirl_ellienefoia: Way way Ot for this group.  check #java.16:56
Vletnefoia: wrong room16:56
kduboi1well, everyone else stop downloading it!16:56
ryugakabut i made an xdefault and it isn't changing16:56
Vletnefoia: try #java16:56
nerdygirl_ellienefoia: you'll probably want to use ant for your input classes.16:56
Charlotteanyone pls16:57
Mad_bolhelp m plz16:57
KeithWeisshardo you have a ubuntu dvd torrent16:57
awalton__ /msg nickserv identify c0met86!16:57
seamus7Is my Guty RC installation now final or will there be some sort of upgrade?16:57
Guilhermeilis that allright i use irc wile installing?16:57
awalton__well crap16:57
Piciawalton__: change it16:57
knait says: make, no tagets are defined and no "make" was found!16:57
kduboi1Guilhermeil: its absolutely fine16:57
Jovarois there a way to get back to feisty?16:57
nefoiawhoops sorry16:57
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CoolMattykna: did you look for a package for GTK 1.2?16:57
Reubenstuporglue: i wonder do i have to do this? http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?pid=342516:57
PiciJovaro: no.16:57
Guilhermeilthx16:57
knayes16:57
Pici!downgrade | Jovaro16:57
Sarathubuntu is not workin on my HP laptop16:57
ubotuJovaro: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.16:57
nerdygirl_elliePeacefulCheeta: I have all of the sources on the "ubuntu software" tab of software sources turned on except for "source code"16:57
Redleerwell im mayby still on beta version. need to download new one or can it be updated?16:57
VletIf no one is answer your question, that means no one currently knows how to help you. Try searching http://ubuntuforums.org/ or google16:57
kduboi1kna sudo apt-get install build-essential libtool16:57
knai downloaded and untared the gtk 1.2 packake16:58
Reubenstuporglue: it's still scanning at the moment16:58
knak16:58
gary4garJovaro, why you want to downgrade?16:58
generalsnusnerdygirl_ellie: E: Couldn't find package build-essentials16:58
awalton__I am NOT having a good day.16:58
Sarathcan anyone help me please16:58
Sarath??16:58
ZeD-yay16:58
boris__can i upgrade from ubuntu gutsy release candidate to new ubuntu gutsy16:58
PeacefulCheetathanks a lot ellie :)16:58
kduboi1oh and kna, sudo apt-get install automake16:58
Charlottemy 2gb usb is not working ,my ipod , my printer everything my usb ports are dead , what i shoud do? how to know that my usbfv is messed up?16:58
Pici!final > boris__ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)16:58
nerdygirl_ellie!final | boris__16:58
syngin001yes you can upgrade16:58
ubotuboris__: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.16:58
stuporglueReuben: not sure, i've never had that problem16:58
ryugakaI need to figure out why my aterm isn't changing.16:58
Hazalright.. i'm using the gutsy alternate CD disc. it just passed the "scanning CD-ROM" step and seems to be hanging on a blue screen... anyone want to make a comment?16:58
JovaroI only get a black screen, can't even switch to a terminal with ctr alt f.. gary4gar16:58
Reubenstuporglue: i'll try rebooting and disabling the non existent floppy disk sec16:58
stuporglueok16:58
ARJonesHaz: That sucks16:58
CoolMatty*sigh* I guess this place is far too busy right now. I'll wait to fix my booting issue till you guys aren't overwhelmed :p16:58
Hazheh16:58
ARJones:)16:58
Mad_bolhi all16:58
awalton__apparently there's some strange bug in ESD where two instances get launched at startup, and I just spent the last hour trying to figure out why.16:58
Mad_bolanyone help plz16:59
kduboi1CoolMatty: whats up?16:59
neohakeri connetced my lappy and sys on lan iam able to ping from both ends :D how to transfer files :D16:59
Hazi was looking more along the lines of "oh! that happened to me, the solution is . . ." but i guess it's not that easy :P16:59
tatterskna: I use a next gen package wifi called wicrawl( u need to compile ) if your interested in pentesting wireless and cracking wep automatically cracks wep16:59
Mad_bolin my server appears16:59
Mad_bolata3: port failed to redpond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)16:59
Mad_bolataa3.00; exception Enmask 0x0 SAct oxo SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen16:59
sylverfox!nvidia | sylverfox16:59
gary4garJovaro, have you tried with safe grafix mode?16:59
Megagun_!md516:59
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:59
godzirraI was reading this link about gutsy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502335&page=3 and it said something about not having native sata drivers for my laptop.  Is there anyway to find out if those have been added or if I can get those anywhere?16:59
Sarathi am gettin a blank screen when i try to run frm the live cd16:59
CoolMattykduboi1: I just did the install, default CD, all that jazz. grub gives an "error code 22" when I boot16:59
trezSomeone know where I can get more information on "NET: Registered  protocol family 17"? Seems to be a source of Kernel Oops for me :)16:59
morpheusif I use dd to copy a filesystem will I have to have n identicl machine for it to work on? eg cloning one filessystem from one machine to another16:59
CoolMattyalso, I believe grub installed to the wrong drive for some reason?16:59
knaerror, it says: lock var/ ..... coudnt get Lock, 11 recourses temporalry unavailable, unable to lock the administrator directory16:59
Jovarogary4gar, is that the recovery option in grub?16:59
FlimFlamMani get no gnome panel or menu when i boot off the livecd16:59
Redleerany good program/site to check vulnerabilities? just installed ubuntu and im new on this heh my windows hd:s blew up16:59
awalton__clear16:59
awalton__aughhhh17:00
awalton__this is killing me17:00
Sarathanyone??17:00
nerdygirl_ellieTY whoever that was that pointed out wicrawl.17:00
Pici!anyone | Sarath17:00
ubotuSarath: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?17:00
knaso what is the point17:00
tatterskna: possibably close package manager bfre apting17:00
knaok17:00
boris__thanks Pici and nerdygirl_ellie17:00
kduboi1CoolMatty: any more information thats releveant?17:00
neohaker i connetced my lappy and sys on lan iam able to ping from both ends :D how to transfer files :D some help17:00
nerdygirl_ellieRedleer: to scan other hosts for vulnerabilities?  Nessus and nmap.17:00
awalton__anyone want a free laptop? this one's about to go out the window.17:00
seamus7Would the an installed Gutsy Release Candidate now simply be the official release or will there be some sort of upgrade?17:00
gary4garJovaro, well you have full format to go for 7.0417:00
beast_nerdygirl_ellie: thanks it works fine now :)17:00
emethello17:00
* awalton__ rawrs.17:00
Sarathk17:00
emetis there are version of Ubuntu for 16-bit machines?17:00
CoolMattykduboi1: it's a SATA drive I'm installing to, and I have 4 HDs (one with windows vista on it)17:00
nerdygirl_ellieneohaker: what type of systems are you connecting from/to?17:00
boris__W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3E231AC7F4ECF18117:00
Reubenstuporglue: alright starting up ubuntu now17:01
boris__is this wrong ?17:01
sylverfoxnerdygirl_ellie: i have a nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)17:01
Sarathi am not able to run ubuntu in my hp laptop17:01
Redleerhmm tryed to install nessus got problems with that hehe have to check nmap17:01
Jovarogary4gar, the best solution would be getting something on my screen. How to use this safe graphics mode?17:01
Reubenstuporglue: from the livecd that is :P17:01
sylverfoxcard17:01
stuporglue:-)17:01
Frijolieis there a cool tool to change the screen resolution?17:01
Levielanyone mind walking me through the basic network setup steps?17:01
CoolMattySarath: going to need more information than that.17:01
boris__this happend second time17:01
Veinorseamus7: I heard that there are 5 minor bugs that the official release fixes that the final RC has... but they're also minor.17:01
CoolMattyFrijolie: yes, it's in the menu at the top (not administration, teh other one)17:01
neohakernerdygirl_ellie:two ubuntu fiest systems17:01
Sarathi tried runnin it from the live cd17:01
Sarathi dint install it17:01
molnitzaHi. If got a RaLink RT2500 Wifi Card. I want to use the network-manager for this card, but it is not shown in it.17:01
PiciSarath: Try the alternate cd17:01
gary4garJovaro, tell have you installed gutsy?17:01
nerdygirl_ellieFrijolie: system -> preferences -> screen resolution17:01
kidbuntuis it fine to cancel the upgrade to 7.10 even i'm already at the 50% of its downloading. someone has to use my computer..17:02
CoolMattySarath: okay, and what happened?17:02
neohakernerdygirl_ellie:one lappy and one desktop both  of ubuntu17:02
Sarathinitialising process went well17:02
seamus7Veinor: but there'll be an update to fix them don't you think?17:02
Jovarogary4gar, I updated feisty to gutsy17:02
CoolMattykidbuntu: if it's in the process of downloading it doesnt matter17:02
Picikidbuntu: as long as it hasnt started the install process its okay17:02
FrijolieCoolMatty: i've already looked in there, I need to get 1360x76817:02
nerdygirl_ellieneohaker: if you have sshd installed on one of them, then you can use ssh to copy between them.  I do it all the time.17:02
Mad_bolata3: port failed to redpond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)17:02
Mad_bolataa3.00; exception Enmask 0x0 SAct oxo SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen17:02
seamus7boris__: did you pass the key to apt?17:02
Sarathbut then there was a blank screen17:02
RetriAnyone know if i instlaled the 7.10 RC do I need to download and install the 7.10 Official Release?17:02
jeffwheelerHey y'all, congrats on the release.17:02
tattersmolnitza: disable the network manager and get railink utility17:02
FrijolieCoolMatty: which is not a standard resolution17:02
KeithWeissharhow do i get the dvd version of ubuntu 7.1017:02
CoolMattyFrijolie: your xorg.conf probably doesn't have that resolution in it then. You'll probably need ot manually add it17:02
Pici!final > Retri (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)17:02
gary4garJovaro, now after reboot you get black screen? am i right?17:02
neohakerok17:02
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nerdygirl_ellieneohaker:  scp /home/ellie ellie@server:/backup/home/ellie17:02
kduboi1CoolMatty: can you boot up windows?17:02
CoolMattykduboi1: I'm in it now :p17:02
Jovarogary4gar, correct17:02
kidbuntuCoolMatty: so that means. it doesnt affect the computer for the next boot up17:03
dareape1got some problem with the visual effects, whenever i switch them on my terminal windows are completely white, everything else is working perfectly with enabled effects.17:03
boris__seamus : what ?17:03
whileimhereHi. Does anyone know where the graphic that the GNOME PANEL uses as a separator is stored?17:03
wundaboywhat is:       eth0:avah     ?17:03
neohakernerdygirl_ellie:be more clear na17:03
boris__i just did check for updates17:03
nerdygirl_ellieneohaker: but you'd need the ssh-server package installed on at least one of them.17:03
gary4garJovaro, post your xorg.conf file here17:03
FrijolieCoolMatty: I've looked in Xorg.conf and it doesn't even specify a resolution17:03
Reubenstuporglue: notice it takes some time to boot from the cd17:03
DanaGnvidiafb is bad for xorg -- you can't use it with the binary drivers.17:03
Veinorseamus7: I think so.17:03
neohakernerdygirl_ellie: should i satrt init.d/sshd17:03
Veinornot 100% sure on it17:03
KeithWeisshardo you have a working link to the dvd version of ubuntu17:03
CoolMattyFrijolie: odd, maybe they changed something then. It's been a while :/17:03
nerdygirl_ellieneohaker: on one of the systems, apt-get install ssh-server.17:03
dareape1its just that terminal window that is white ... using a good old geforce 3 ti 20017:03
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molnitza@tatters: Device not found! (check rt2x00.conf)      Where is that file?17:03
FrijolieCoolMatty: It specifies a refresh rate but not a resolution17:03
tattersmolnitza: I got 3 rt cards usb,pmcia, and a pci all working in gutsy with packet injection in monitor mode17:04
FrijolieCoolMatty: Isn't there a GUI tool to help configure Xorg.conf?17:04
Scuniziwhileimhere: right mouse click panel, choose add then locate the graphic for the seperator17:04
Mad_bolmy servers it's down17:04
tattersmolnitza: have u tried sudo ifconfig wlan0 up first?17:04
Sarathis it because of the drivers or somethin??17:04
seamus7boris__: you mentioned an error during update, yes?17:04
jeffwheelerI'm on a proxy that prevents any access outside of port 80; I was thinking about trying to create an SSH tunnel out to another machine; is that the best way to get access to other ports?17:04
CoolMattyFrijolie: there's console ones, but I don't know if there are any GUI ones.17:04
molnitza@tatters: That is what I want...17:04
boris__seamus7 yes17:04
nerdygirl_ellieneohaker: then, from the other system,  places -> connect to server -> ssh -> put in the IP, user/password/ etc.17:04
boris__W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3E231AC7F4ECF18117:04
monkeyBoxAnyone here own an iPhone?  How hard is it to get to work w/ linux?17:04
FrijolieCoolMatty: what is the console one called? I'll try that one17:04
molnitza@tatters: wait...17:04
kduboi1CoolMatty: thats the no such partition found error17:04
jeffwheelermonkeyBox: I wouldn't want to try17:05
Reubenstuporglue: okie it's loaded now17:05
boris__i get this when i try 'sudo apt-get update'17:05
whileimhereScunizi: I am looking for the location of the graphic not to add one to my panel17:05
neohakernerdygirl_ellie:yup thanks i will try :d17:05
dareape1how come only terminals are white with effects? must be somethign small fixable17:05
FrijoliemonkeyBox: I want to get my BlackBerry Pearl to sync with Linux17:05
CoolMattykduboi1: right, I think it installed grub to the wrong drive17:05
boris__seamus7 i get this when i try 'sudo apt-get update'17:05
nerdygirl_ellieneohaker: if you are going to do it a lot, then you'll want to do NFS, but that is outside of my realm.17:05
knaok, im running an update now17:05
stuporglueReuben: Ok, pop open a terminal and run just this "sudo /etc/init.d/hal stop", then open the partition editor17:05
Sarath@coolmatty17:05
nerdygirl_ellieFrijolie: I'd like to know too.17:05
godzirraSo how do I tell if I'm using native sata drivers?17:05
Sarathany ideas??17:05
tattersmolnitza: I blacklisted the rt2x00 drivers and installed the enhanced legacy drivers17:05
boris__seamus7 W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3E231AC7F4ECF18117:05
Reubenstuporglue: oops i didn't do the stop thing but i opened the partition editor17:05
nerdygirl_ellieBoss calling, gotta go.17:05
Reubenstuporglue: it detected the drives. do i still need to hal stop?17:05
nerdygirl_ellielater.17:05
seamus7boris__: one moment17:05
Scuniziwhileimhere: sorry I missunderstood.. I'm not sure where it is but you might try /usr/local/shared  or something similar17:05
FrijolieSo, as of today, is Gutsy offically supported and the assumed version?17:05
stuporglueReuben: if you don't do the stopping, it will auto mount the partition, even if it is deleted :-/17:06
kduboi1CoolMatty: if a grub screen appears on boot, its on the primary boot drive. I think that grub is looking for the ubuntu install on the wrong partition, if i had to guess17:06
CoolMattySarath: I'd hit F6 on the boot CD, remove the "quiet" option, and hit enter. see exactly where the bootup dies.17:06
whileimhereScunizi: Okay I will check there.17:06
molnitza@taters: Do you have compiled your drivers? iwconfig have noch function for me17:06
Reubenstuporglue: right i will stop it and restart gpart17:06
Sarath@coolmatty17:06
stuporglueReuben: great17:06
Saraththanks17:06
Jovarogary4gar, did you get my pm?17:06
Sarathwill try it out now17:06
CoolMattykduboi1: I had to change my boot order to the wrong drive to get grub to pop that error. and I never saw the actual "screen", just the grub loading, then instantly that error17:06
kiranHi there, i'm having a hard time in getting my ATI card to work17:07
Levielplease walk me through setting up a network, guys?17:07
gary4garJovaro, no :)17:07
CoolMattyLeviel: step 1: describe thy network17:07
knaok, its still the same error17:07
Levielhome network17:07
Reubenstuporglue: done!17:07
Levielthe rest of the family still have windows17:07
beast_i have an hp dv6500 laptop and the sound does not work, so i followed method B here :https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller17:07
Jovaroi can't paste 100 lines of xorg.conf here :)17:07
Levieli'm dual-booting at the moment17:07
beast_but still no sound :(17:07
Reubenstuporglue: and gpart is open and i have the relevant hd selected. i see the ntfs drive and the ext3 drives as well17:07
CoolMattyokay, and what sort of connection is yours using?17:07
CoolMattyjust a eth connection to the router/switch?17:08
molnitza@tatters: and in the /etc/interfaces/network is only my Marvell card listet17:08
Levielum...17:08
* sam55 says Hi! A question about customized Live CD. It appears that Gutsy kernel does not have squashfs support, correct?17:08
Vlet!paste | Jovaro17:08
ubotuJovaro: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)17:08
Reubenstuporglue: i also see extended and linux swap17:08
stuporglueReuben: delete the ext3 and the swap partitions, then hit apply17:08
SeanConneryhi, whenever I run python in gutsy, I get import site failed due to apport_python_hook failing to be imported17:08
stray77i can boot the cd (i386), i hear the music, but my display is dead (nvidia 5200) so i tried the safe graphics mode and i get the same thing. 7.04 had no problems on the same machine and yes i checked the cd b4 trying to install17:08
Reubenstuporglue: okie what about the 'extended' thing? so i just leave the ntfs?17:08
SeanConneryanyone seen this?17:08
Jovarothanks Vlet17:08
AmaranthSeanConnery: reinstall apport17:09
CoolMattystray77: does the booting screen show up at all? the loading bar?17:09
stuporglueReuben: If the extended isn't huge, just leave it. I'm not sure exactly what it is17:09
KeithWeissharhow do i get the dvd torrent17:09
SeanConneryAmaranth, ok... are we pulling a windows nowadays?!!!17:09
Jovarogary4gar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41080/17:09
KeithWeisshari'm having trouble getting to the dvd version of ubuntu17:09
knahi, i still have that problem, when i tried to install gtk-1.2 i cant use the "make" command17:09
Reubenstuporglue: in the extneded it's the linux-swap but i cna't delete it...it's locked or something17:09
stray77CoolMatty, yes it only goes dead after i hear the music17:09
AmaranthSeanConnery: No, _you_ corrupted something :P17:09
tattersmolnitza: are you sure you have rt2500 card? is there any mention of rt2xoo if you typer lsmod?17:09
knaanyone knows why?, can i get a private audience?17:09
SeanConneryAmaranth, I've done  no such thing!17:09
doogluskna: you really want 1.2?  it's old...17:09
SeanConneryAmaranth, still didn't work17:09
Blackholdhello17:09
trprgutsy upgrade is as easy as changing soures.list and then apt-get dist-upgrade ?17:09
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generalsnuswaah.. how hard could it be to change the fan speed on my 8800gtx??17:09
Mad_bolata3: port failed to redpond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)17:09
Mad_bolataa3.00; exception Enmask 0x0 SAct oxo SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen17:09
Reubenstuporglue: it is possible it's the temporary loading from the liveCD?17:09
knayes i install airsnort, and i says install gtk 1.217:09
NeoGeo64ahhhhhhh!! i cant download ubuntu!!17:10
CoolMattystray77: you might need to kill X and reconfigure xorg.conf manually :/17:10
knaso i do17:10
Blackholdi would like to uninstall openoffice.org 2.2 from my computer17:10
mc44trpr: no, use the update-manager17:10
stuporglueReuben: The swap is under the extended part?17:10
Amaranth!upgrade | trpr17:10
ubotutrpr: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes17:10
Reubenstuporglue: it says the status is busy and that at least one logical partition is mounted17:10
Reubenstuporglue: that's right17:10
Blackholdonly deleting the files in /opt/openoffice.org2.2 it don't uninstalls17:10
stuporglueah, ok. right click and unmount the swap and ext3 partitions17:10
doogluskna: did you install libgtk1.2-dev ?17:10
molnitza@tatters: I am sure that I have a Rt2500 Card... lsmod: eeprom_93cx6            3200  1 rt2500pci17:10
knano, i will17:10
knaty17:10
knaim off17:10
stuporglueReuben: what partition number is the ntfs?17:10
BlackholdI installed it before using rpm17:10
Seamoosehey, does any one know if there are any mirrors that arent slammed right now17:10
dooglusSeamoose: use a torrent?17:11
AmaranthSeamoose: If we told you they would get slammed :P17:11
nefoiaSeamoose: or wait?17:11
Amaranthdooglus: Some people do upgrades...17:11
CoolMattykduboi1: any ideas? I think I might just retry the install and do all the partitioning by hand :/17:11
yuxingguohow choule i unstall a software17:11
Reubenstuporglue: i'm not sure how to tell what partition number is the ntfs. also i can't seem to unmount the extended or linux swap17:11
Seamoosedooglus: I would torrent it, but Im D/Ling it at work and the ports are blocked...and I cant wait :)17:11
Reubenstuporglue: the option is grayed out17:11
dooglusAmaranth: I did mine an hour before the release - it downloaded at an average of 1800KB/s :)17:11
nerdygirl_ellieBack!17:11
KeithWeisshari tried to get the dvd torrent but there are no peers17:11
yuxingguohow chould i unstall a sofeware17:11
alecwhI'm looking for an alternate application for the mac OSX program "Pages". Can someone give me a suggestion? I can't find one.17:11
Amaranthdooglus: Naughty (I've had it for 2 days)17:11
stray77CoolMatty, ill give it a try, but i must say im quite suprised and a little disappointed at this point.17:11
Reubenstuporglue: when i click on information it says status busy among other things17:12
Levieli'm connecting via network-cable to a hub (switch?), and then it goes by cable to the ADSL router, yes17:12
dooglusAmaranth: naughty?  why?17:12
ipxHow to install lamp the easiest way? I know there's just a easy terminal-command17:12
nefoiahi nerdygirl_ellie17:12
CoolMattystray77: Yeah that's weird for it not to at least default back to something else17:12
[Gutsy]Alien18hey again all17:12
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CoolMattystray77: out of curiosity, does your card have dual outputs? maybe its outputting on the wrong head17:12
reacocardis the ubuntu bittorrent tracker down forne else? anyo17:12
[Gutsy]Alien18just started downloading again, using conical im getting 1800kb/s!!17:12
Mad_bolata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen17:12
Mad_bolata3.00: cmd ca/00:78:fb:a3:1e/00:00:00:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 61440 out17:12
Mad_bolres 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout)17:12
Mad_bolata3: port is slow to respond, please be patient (Status 0xd0)17:12
Mad_bolata3: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)17:12
Mad_bolata3: soft resetting port17:12
tattersmolnitza: ok basically I blacklisted the rt2500pci module, downloaded and compiled the enhanced legacy drivers then sudo modprobe rt2500 to enable then and then ifconfig wlan017:12
seamus7boris__: looks like there tuxfamily server is down or not responding at the moment so that would mean update-manager is getting that error message when it tries to connect.17:12
trprmc44: any particular reason to use the Update GUI? i was actually hoping for a CLI approach17:12
reacocardis the ubuntu bittorrent tracker down for anyone else?*17:12
mc44Mad_bol: don't paste in here please17:12
nerdygirl_ellieOn my "taskbar", the bar on the left that shows the running applications, I used to have icons for the running applications.  an envelope for evolution, an empty window for rdesktop..  Now everything shows up as an ellipsis "...".  Is this by design, and can I revert to the older behavior?17:13
Amaranth!pastebin | Mad_bol17:13
ubotuMad_bol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)17:13
mc44trpr: then use update-manager-core has special magic17:13
tommygjGutsy Gibbon was supriseingly nice ;O ;D17:13
tattersmolnitza: rt2500pci is newer module rt2500 is older module17:13
Sp0tUbcan someone help me with "Evolution" E-Mail program? I got problems with "SMTP", can not send mails at all!17:13
Reubenstuporglue: btw when i right click on linux-swap there's a 'swap-off' function17:13
reacocardah nvm, its back17:13
taonariHi I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 release candidate 2 days ago.  What would I need to do to upgrade to 7.10 final?  Update manager shows no updates available.17:13
stuporglueReuben: yeah, turn the swap off, that should fix it17:13
stray77CoolMatty, yes 1 vga which im using and one dvi which im not17:13
mc44!final | taonari17:13
ubotutaonari: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.17:13
AmaranthWho here is enjoying the visual effects on Ubuntu 7.10? :)17:13
Mad_bolhlp plz17:13
tommygjme ! ;D17:13
frenkeltaonari: there were no updates in the last 2 days..17:13
tommygjit's beautiful !17:13
mc44Amaranth: I think whoever helped polish them is some kind of twised genius!17:13
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taonariubotu: Ah thanks!!!17:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ah thanks!!! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:13
boris__seamus7 thanks for help17:14
taonarifrenkel: Ok.  Thanks!17:14
frenkeltaonari: in other words, you're running final :)17:14
Amaranthmc44: *cough*17:14
CoolMattystray77: well, VGA should be the "default" but I'd grab a DVI-to-VGA adapter if you have one and check anyway. can't hurt :/17:14
mc44Amaranth: :P17:14
taonarifrenkel: Good to know.  I wouldn't think there would be much in 2 days time hehe17:14
edelvahello all17:14
molnitza@tatters: Do you have the sources frome the sourceforge-project?17:14
stray77CoolMatty, thanks, im looking for it now....where the heck did i put it? lol17:14
Mad_bolit's posible un-instal dist-upgrade ???17:14
edelvatoday is release day. everybody must be very happy17:14
DanaGWow, Ralink RT2500 does work right out of the box.  That's cool.17:14
LevielCoolMatty: yes, cable to hub to ADSL router17:14
AondoAmaranth  everyone? :)17:14
edelva?17:14
edelvaI have a question that have nothing to do with ubuntu17:15
BernieMacwhat do I need to to do unmount my drive? currently it says I am not privileged17:15
AmaranthAondo: I hope so. :D17:15
Charlottehey guys how to add forlder "downloads" in the menu "places"17:15
CoolMattyLeviel: alright, you really shouldn't need to do anything special. Are you having problems with autodetect?17:15
Jovarogary4gar, can you see my answers?17:15
Reubenstuporglue: haha it crashed gparted. restarted it and deleted all those partitions. now i only have one ntfs one.17:15
tommygjhmm how do I hange the "side-switching" between desktops? I want the cube17:15
Levielyes17:15
ipxHow to install lamp the easiest way? I know there's just a easy terminal command17:15
molnitza@DanaG:Oh.. And I have only problems with this card17:15
LevielCoolMatty: i'm not on the network17:15
tattersmolnitza: u can check everything work open the railink utilty and you get an extra option to enable packet injection in monitor mode, I got my driver from aircrack webpage , if you compile and install aircrack ,,there is an option in airoscript which will download and compile the legacy drivers automatically17:15
PovAddicttommygj: enable rotate cube plugin17:15
jrib!lamp > ipx (read the private message from ubotu)17:15
Charlottenext ot music pictures videos and documents17:15
edelvaI have a video training with a file extention  .sfs. I don't know which codec that can play that video file. any idea?17:15
tommygjokey thx17:15
Reubenstuporglue: what's next?:P it doesn't show the unpartitioned space tho17:15
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: open a place, like your home folder, and add it as a bookmark.17:16
gary4garJovaro, do you have nvidia vedio card?17:16
Thunderhitanyone, PLZ help. wanted to give the new 7.10 a try, but when I start it, i get in the menu of the cd and when selecting the first install option, the screen goes black and thats it. changing resolutions through F4 didnt help a bit! I had the same problem in 7.04 iirc, but there it worked if I changed the resolution!17:16
CoolMattyLeviel: alright, does Ubuntu detect your network card at all?17:16
Jaymacthis may seem like a silly question to some.. but which install would people recommend for Intel Core Duo? (as they are x86-64)17:16
ipxThanks alot, jrib17:16
LevielCoolMatty: i think it does... how do i check17:16
Jovarogary4gar, yes 760017:16
Reubenstuporglue: oh wait it does. unallocated 111.82 gb17:16
tommygjnot a shell built-in17:16
tattersmolnitza: just make sure you blacklist rt2500pci and them sudo modprobe rt250017:16
Jaymaci've always just used the standard x86 one...17:16
nerdygirl_ellie!ccsm | tommygj17:16
ubotutommygj: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz17:16
AmaranthThunderhit: ATI X1000 or newer?17:16
mc44Jaymac: should be fine unless you have >4Gb ram17:16
molnitza@tatters: Okay... thx.17:16
ThunderhitAmaranth: nvidia 880017:16
NeoGeo64i cannot find one server that isnt 404'ed17:16
AmaranthThunderhit: ...oh17:16
Jaymacok mc4417:16
NeoGeo64theyre all at capacity17:16
NeoGeo64i cant get 7.1017:17
AlexismoyHi17:17
edelvaI have a video training with a file extention  .sfs. I don't know which codec that can play that video file. any idea?17:17
stuporglueReuben, hit apply, then close gparted. then in the terminal start hal again "sudo /etc/init.d/hal start", then run the installer17:17
LevielCoolMatty: and can i posisbly get on the internet before that - or am going to have to reboot?17:17
AmaranthNeoGeo64: use the torrent17:17
nerdygirl_ellieJaymac: 32 bit is generally more stable, and the performance difference at 64 bit is usually not significant17:17
southernman!torrent17:17
NeoGeo64my isp throttles torrentws17:17
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html17:17
ThunderhitAmaranth: you know the problem maybe?17:17
NeoGeo64my isp throttles torrents*17:17
Mad_bolmy server it's down17:17
roguejedixQuick question: are possible upgrading issues mentioned in the FAQ in the topic?17:17
AmaranthNeoGeo64: Better than not getting it at all17:17
Thunderhitsearch for mirros, I found one high speed17:17
oobletHello! Ive got a Intel Core 2 Duo T7100 1.80GHz cpu, but ubuntu treats it as a 1200MHz, any hints/tips?17:17
AmaranthThunderhit: Try the alternative install?17:17
Thunderhitwill give you the link NeoGeo6417:17
neohakernerdygirl_ellie:its working thans :D17:17
TaBo__anyone.. how i can update my ubuntu to the new version?17:17
* morpheus is sooooooo excited, 10 minutes till I'm outa here then I can go get me a gutsy gibbon17:17
nerdygirl_ellieneohaker: yeah!!!!!!17:17
Amaranthooblet: This is alright, it does frequency scaling to save power/heat17:18
CoolMattyLeviel: uh, if your network card cant connect then you cant get on the internet... im not sure what you're asking?17:18
neohakernerdygirl_ellie:sshd is working :D17:18
ARJonesokay maybe im just stupid and dont understand how repos work, however im going through the files at http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/ubuntu/dists, and I have been going through all the directories looking at stuff, and maybe its just me but i don't see a single .deb file or even *something* that looks like its software up there17:18
Amaranthooblet: It should go to higher speeds when they're needed17:18
ARJoneswhere are all the packages kept?17:18
ThunderhitAmaranth how does that work? hope it works with the desktop cd...17:18
neohakernerdygirl_ellie;)17:18
AlexismoyI'v got a question, I would like to upgrade my ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10, but it blocs at the download of the 33th package. I think my apt sources are not good17:18
magnetronTaBo__: run System >Administration > Update manager17:18
oobletAmaranth: neat, thanks17:18
Alexismoysomeone have sources that works?17:18
AmaranthThunderhit: No, it's a separate CD17:18
gary4garJovaro remove dri from xorg.conf file17:18
LevielCoolMatty: well, im on windows at the moment, because i cant get the network or internet to work on ubuntu17:18
magnetronTaBo__: but wait one or two days17:18
nicholaserr update-manager says - Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2).. although i can wget and bunzip2 it.17:18
mc44ARJones: er... why are you looking there? use a package manager17:18
roguejedixNevermind, found it. Thanks!17:18
zorglu_so today is big release day ?:)17:18
boubbin_how to setup nvidia in gutsy wqhen i cannot use restricted drivers ?17:19
magnetronzorglu_: yes17:19
gary4garJovaro, its under Modules head17:19
AlexJTannerabout how long does it take to install the new version of ubuntu17:19
Reubenstuporglue: ok i'm at the screen of headache...the prepare disk space page17:19
ARJonesmc44: I am, im updating right now using the easynews mirror, just I'm coming from redhat land and I don't understand where the software is kept on the repos. I'm just curious17:19
Jovarogary4gar, ok17:19
nerdygirl_ellieAlexismoy: try commenting out all of your non-standard repositories.  I had to disable the wine and miro repos, as well as (gasp) the automatix repo.17:19
CoolMattyLeviel: right. Well, you'd have to get into ubuntu to check if it is detecting your network card properly17:19
nerdygirl_ellie!automatix17:19
zorglu_magnetron: cool :)17:19
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)17:19
AmaranthAlexJTanner: Depends on how fast you can download it17:19
Charlottehmm it did not work17:19
stuporglueReuben: Is there a use free space option this time?17:19
AlexJTannerAmaranth: I have the disc17:19
ThunderhitI have to dl another cd to install it? wtf? I cant dl things all the time, I dont have unlimited BW.. stupid dorms :/17:19
Reubenstuporglue: it says Guided-use entire disk Guided-use the largest continuous free space (which is what i did last time) and Manual17:19
mc44ARJones: it's kept in the pool/ bit, but you shouldn't ever need to use that17:19
magnetronAlexJTanner: if you already have downloaded the disc, i would guess 40 minutes17:19
CoolMattyif it isn't picking up your network card you'll have to find drivers, download them in windows, and move them over to ubuntu17:19
Menasim1I have Ubuntu 7.10 beta how can I upgrade to the stable version?17:19
Jake_001i have a geforce fx5200 card.  the shutdown splash goes scrambled. not really an issue but she weird. anyone know why?17:19
mc44ARJones: just use apt or synaptic or whatever17:19
Reubenstuporglue: no...i wonder if it's because i am using a SATA hard drive instead of IDE ?17:19
Ubuserhello. how to install Ubuntu from pendrive? (i don`t have d-rom)17:19
nerdygirl_ellie!final | Menasim117:19
ubotuMenasim1: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.17:19
AlexJTannerok I will have to do it when I get to school17:19
TuxRoxOK, I recently upgraded to 7.10 and after being gone all last week, I ran update-manager and it installed the latest kernel. I am having one issue though. I have to build the nvidia module every time I start the laptop. It always goes right in to the failsafe X config screen. It does not list the correct monitor type nor see the nvidia card properly. I have to switch to vt1, ps ax | grep gdm, kill all gdm processes, rebuild the nvidia module and then I ca17:19
TuxRoxn start gdm and have the correct resolution, 1440x900.17:19
AlexismoyI put the basic repositories but same problem17:19
tattersTakes me about 20 mins tops to install and update gutsy17:19
magnetronMenasim1: run system > admin > update manager17:20
AmaranthAlexJTanner: A clean install using the Desktop CD takes anywhere from 15-40 minutes17:20
Charlottei mean i created folder "downloads" but how i add it to "places" menu17:20
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stuporglueGo with the free space again and cross your fingers. It really *should* work. Sata/IDE shouldn't matter. USB might matter, but even that I think works now17:20
AngryElf_how can I map a mouse-button onto a Compiz action?17:20
CoolMattyUbuser: there's a guide in the documentation on the website. you'll need a USB key larger than the CD17:20
AlexJTannerAmaranth: I will start the install and if I don't have time I will just shut it down and redo it17:20
LevielCoolMatty: so how do i check if it's detecting it?17:20
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: Open your home directory.17:20
roker4eqwkk17:20
OM1136OK, i got the torrnt CD, but it offers NO upgrade. How can I accomplish that?17:20
roker4ecarawewolf17:20
UbuserCoolMatty: on www.ubuntu.com ?17:20
ARJonesmc44: Again, I am, I was just curious as to the difference between the repos and how they work. Cause for RPM repos the rpm's are available for direct download. Looks like ubuntu repos though work a bit differently17:20
oobletAmaranth: can I disable it? I could google it myself if you give me a hint on what to search for :)17:20
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: browse to your "downloads" folder.17:20
Reubenstuporglue: turned off my usb hard disks jsut in case17:20
magnetronCharlotte: open it in the file manager and add a bokmark on the bookmark folder17:20
CoolMattyLeviel: find the administration menu, then there will be an option in there to view network devices17:20
Amaranthooblet: Why? It doesn't hurt, only help17:20
gary4garJovaro, also remove the last dri section17:21
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: in file manager, click bookmarks -> add bookmark.17:21
skytyhi, in disk usage anlalyzer my total filesystem capacity is 89.6 but when i do command sudo cfdisk in terminal it shows my total capicity 100 gb, which is real! where is the other space missing? i use ext317:21
CoolMattyif it doesnt show up there (or doesnt match what you see in windows) then it's in need of new drivers17:21
mc44ARJones: they're there, just not sorted by release or whatever, all that info is in Packages.gz17:21
desertcQuestion: When I upgrade to Gutsy, I think I will have to do something with my NVIDIA graphics driver.  I downloaded the binary driver from their site.  Do I run their installer again?17:21
Charlotteoo it works17:21
Reubenstuporglue: OMG it has the option now17:21
Charlottetahnks17:21
Charlottethanks17:21
volkHow can I set compiz startup options in gutsy? Where is that default command line located?17:21
Charlotte:)17:21
magnetronskyty: the other is used for swap and windows?17:21
LevielCoolMatty: right, i'll check to see if i can find anything17:21
Levielbrb17:21
Amaranthskyty: 5% of your partition is reversed for the root user17:21
Amaranthskyty: That's why running that command with root shows more space17:21
stuporglueReuben: Alright! Hopefully it's auto-detect windows and everything for you now. :-)17:21
Reubenstuporglue: ok it now says Guided-resize SCSI1 (0,0,0) partition #1 sda and used freed space17:21
skytyno, for swap is just 300 mb and windows space is well shown in both17:21
boubbin_how to setup nvidia in gutsy wqhen i cannot use restricted drivers ?17:21
mc44desertc: don't install the drivers from their site17:22
Reubenstuporglue: i'm not sure whether it's resizing my already small partition :(17:22
DanaGYo, I just love the popUNDER to ask for network passphrase.17:22
mc44desertc: use the ones in the reops17:22
mc44*repos17:22
DanaGOkay, that's weird.... I reconnected and got a sudden burst of messages.17:22
nerdygirl_ellieskyty: you can reduce that 5% with tune2fs, but that isn't a good thing to ask about when it's this busy.17:22
Amaranthskyty: For any _regular_ partition you have space is reserved for the root user17:22
DanaGIt's like something was queuing them for me.17:22
Jovarogary4gar, rebooting now17:22
Reubenstuporglue: should i use gpart and just increase the size of the NTFS and then run the installer again? :P hahaha17:22
DanaGI reconnected ethernet, I mean.17:22
trprmc44: and away it goes. thank you. i've been apt-get'ing my previous dist-upgrades. its a miracle everything is still in order (or is it) ;)17:22
AmaranthDanaG: It's called lag17:22
desertcmc44 The ones in the repos cause me problems every time I update the kernel17:22
mc44boubbin_: why can't you use restricted drivers17:22
gary4garJovaro, best of luck17:22
DanaGBut now I see what you mean about ralink: wpa2 isn't working.17:22
mc44trpr: brave guy ;)17:23
AmaranthDanaG: You didn't change your IP and the network thought you were just lagging17:23
pavsi am getting 63732kb/s download for my upgrade according to the upgrade manager WTF!!17:23
dgrhi all, i just installed ubuntu 7.10... im lovin it m8, just 1 question, i have done all i want to... installed xchat etc... the onl thing i want to do now is get the descktop cube up and running, i got all the wobble Fx, just need to know how to get desctop cube17:23
eternal_pgood afternoon all, congrats on the release!  I have a compiz-fusion question...every once in a while it crashes where if I try and drag a window, the window freezes and get put in a different location...has anyone heard of this o rany thoughts?17:23
boubbin_mc44 it complains that there arent some modules loaded to use it... :/17:23
skytyAmaranth, but then 5 % of 100 gb is 5 gb and not 10 as in my case17:23
DanaGSo was it the server, or my router?17:23
boubbin_mc44 fresh install of kubuntu gutsy17:23
mc44desertc: the ones from nvidia will break X every time you update the kernel17:23
Amaranthdgr: #compiz-fusion17:23
Reubenstuporglue: the new partition size goes all the way up to 300 gb ish though when my hd is up to 320 gb i suppose it's ok then?17:23
DanaGWait.17:23
OM1136OK, i got the torrent CD, but it offers NO upgrade. How can I accomplish that?17:23
kemeanCan ubuntu 7.10 install from hard-driver?17:23
mc44boubbin_: whats the error?17:23
AmaranthDanaG: server17:23
dgrthx amaranth17:23
DanaGNew partition size..17:23
alecwhI'm looking for a program like "Pages" (Mac OSX) except for Linux. Does anyone have a suggestion, besides Scribus? :)17:23
DanaGis that size of new partition, or new size of partition?17:23
boubbin_mc44 its big, wait i pastebin ya.17:23
AmaranthDanaG: If it doesn't get an ACK it resends, TCP is cool like that17:24
eternal_pOM1136: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:24
Megagun_Great, X keeps crashing when I try to install. :/17:24
askandDo I have to have at least one panel? O_o17:24
stuporglueReuben: Is windows on the same disk?17:24
nerdygirl_elliealecwh: what does it do?17:24
AmaranthDanaG: Until it decides you've really gone away, anyway17:24
dgrone last thing, how do i see the poeple that are in this chat room? i never used xchat before17:24
TaBo_anyone.. how i can update my ubuntu to the new version?17:24
the9a3eediI wonder if the DVD edition of 7.10 is out yet? I can't seem to find it anywhere17:24
Reubenstuporglue: yes it is....that's why it's scary17:24
gary4garguys this bug: feisty dist upgrade check does not work17:24
Amaranth!upgrade | tabo_17:24
alecwhnerdygirl_ellie: It's like MS Publisher, to design pamphlets.17:24
nerdygirl_ellie!upgrade | TaBo_17:24
gary4garhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/adept/+bug/15388917:24
Quintasananyone knows a video joining program?17:24
Amaranthbot is dead17:24
TaBo_10X17:24
boubbin_mc44 http://pastebin.com/m6d8fe27f17:24
kemeanCan ubuntu be installed from hard-driver? Can anybody tell me ?17:24
molnitza@tatters: I have a problem with make for the RT2500 drivers. Can you take a look? http://nopaste.com/p/aIZivKB1J17:24
Amaranthkemean: Not easily17:25
seamus7dgr: you would either need to go into the Appearances menu and choose the 'Extra' effects setting ... or you will need to install the compiz-config package so that you can turn on the desktop cube effect17:25
snarkyFish!upgrade | snarkyFish17:25
alecwhI'm looking for a program like "Pages" (Mac OSX) except for Linux. Does anyone have a suggestion, besides Scribus? :)17:25
nerdygirl_elliealecwh: good luck with that, I haven't found one program to do it.  I use inkscape for layout and gimp for photo editing, but there really isn't a all in one desktop publishing app.17:25
skytyAmaranth, but then 5 % of 100 gb is 5 gb and not 10 as in my case17:25
alecwhnerdygirl_ellie: Too bad. :(17:25
richdNow, I have 2 APs in my house that are using the same essid. Unfortuneatly, only 1 has internet, while the other is a LAN. I know that you can connect to a network by the bssid of the AP, but is there a way for me to tell other computers to connect to a certain ap? if so, would it have to be done by a computer connected to the network? or would it be something from the AP? I hope that isn't too confusing...17:25
nerdygirl_ellie!test17:25
Amaranthskyty: maybe it was 10%, i don't remember17:25
Mad_bolhi again17:25
kemeanAmaranth:I have installed older version from hard-driver,used the hd-image to boot, why not this version?17:25
Mad_bolanyone hlp plz17:25
Jovarogary4gar, it is still black...17:25
tattersmolnitza: make then sudo  make install17:25
nerdygirl_ellieHey all, ubotu seems to be taking a coffee break, how do we wake it up?17:26
DanaGWoah, that time wpa2 worked.17:26
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Amaranthkemean: Do that again then17:26
XchatersHI17:26
Quintasananyone knows a video joining program?17:26
XchatersAs install component ggh.pas on lazerus ?17:26
jdongrichd: why do you have two disjoint networks on a single ESSID?17:26
boubbin_what about restricted formats in gutsy, how to install flash/dvd etc support ?17:26
aatacan anyone tell me how to mount my nokia n72 in ubuntu?17:26
DanaGOdd.17:26
jdongrichd: that's just plain wrong to do!17:26
ipxHow do i open a java-program and what packages do i need to get for JRE?17:26
Karottehm17:26
remix5xhow come its so incredibly slow downloading the updates to gutsy, is it because it just came out and everyone is doing it?17:26
jdongrichd: but you can issue iwconfig device ap 00:11:22:33:44:5517:26
Amaranthipx: sun-java6-bin17:26
asac_the_3rdrichd: you should use distinct essid17:26
kemeanAmaranth: I use alternate cd. But that seems my alternate-7.10cd has broken...17:26
Mad_bolit's posible restore my ubuntu to yesterday ???17:26
mc44boubbin_: thats the error about modules?17:26
molnitza@taTTERS: OKAY17:26
Reubenstuporglue: right this New partition size is it the size of the new partition it's creating or the size of the resized partition17:26
Quintasanipx: propably java <applet name>17:26
bXiare there proper guides on installing the latest fglrx on ubuntu?17:26
askandIs there a way to force tracker to index?17:26
seamus7dgr: its called 'compizconfig-settings-manager' and it will add and 'Advanced Desktop Effects Settings' menu item to your System/Preferences menuyour17:26
gary4garJovaro, your xserver running?17:26
Amaranthremix5x: exactly17:26
ipxthx17:27
Vletboubbin_: The easiest way is to simply pop in a dvd, or open a page in firefox that has flash - it'll guide you through the rest17:27
ipxtrying now17:27
aataanyone?17:27
Karotteafter updating to Gutsy, whenever I try to resize a window, my X is freezed, and I have 100% CPU, any idea why? worked fine with beryl/feisty17:27
generalsnusthis is why linux/ubuntu have difficulties reaching out to the masses.. i cant even change my nvidia fan control without spending hours in terminal learning stuff..17:27
asac_the_3rdbXi: in gutsy you can just use the restricted manager17:27
bXiasac_the_3rd: those arent the latest as far as i know17:27
nerdygirl_ellieTaBo_: to upgrade, start update manager or from the command line type update-manager -c17:27
Quintasananyone knows a video joining program?17:27
XchatersHGG.pas(8,3) Fatal: Can't find unit Windows17:27
stuporglueReuben: You're resizing windows then? I'm not sure which way it is. I don't use Windows and have only helped someone with resizing once17:27
remix5xAnd if I pause or stop the upgrade to gutsy, does that mean that I wont be able to resume them later?17:27
Amaranthgeneralsnus: offtopic17:27
richdjdong: I know i can do it from each computer, but i wonder if there is a command i can do that will tell computers to connect to one or the other17:27
Xchaters:)17:27
bXii believe those where 8.37 and i want 8.4117:27
generalsnusyeah..17:27
stuporglueQuintasan: what kind of video?17:27
boubbin_mc44 well thats the error when im doing that with kcontrol, but when i go from the k-menu it tellms me about missing modules. sec17:27
khamaelwhere do I turn off the "tap to click" "feature" in gutsy?17:27
nerdygirl_ellieQuintasan:what do you want to do?17:27
richdjdong: some packet that tells them to use a certain bssid rather than just the essid17:27
Reubenstuporglue: ahhh okie should be a general question this time that most ppl should know now! but thank you SOOO much...looks like i'm off on the right track17:27
Mad_bolhello17:27
nerdygirl_ellierichd: What do you want to do?17:27
ubotutabo_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes17:27
ubotuTaBo_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes17:28
stefano_Is it possible to set up SCIM input method as default and being disabled so that the english keyboard is default and when activated the language of choice?17:28
ubotuFailed.17:28
asac_the_3rdbXi: why?17:28
Jovarogary4gar, i can ssh to the machine and run programs, like gedit on it17:28
kemeanAmaranth:Now,I am upgrading 7.04 to 7.10,hope all right.17:28
jdongrichd: no. all "cells" of an ESSID by 802.11 standards are considered equivalent17:28
nerdygirl_ellieWelcome back ubotu!17:28
Quintasannerdygirl_ellie: i have 5 video files and i want to make them into one17:28
molnitza@tatters:make make: *** No rule to create »instal« .  End. (Translation)17:28
seamus7dgr: in xchat, go to view and check 'user list' to see all users in a chat room17:28
Vletgeneralsnus: Do the masses really care about their video card's fan? no. Being a geek requires reading docs like a geek :)17:28
boubbin_mc44 then text is in finnish so it wont help much :P17:28
richdjdong: ok. thanks a ton for the help17:28
stuporglueQuintsan : ffmpeg will do almost anything. But you can just cat together vobs and some other types of videos eg. cat video1.vob video2.vob video3.vob > combined.vob17:28
bXiasac_the_3rd: the latest drivers have aiglx support which should have a major impact on compiz-fusion17:28
nerdygirl_ellieQuintasan: are they real video files, or VOBs from a dvd?17:28
jdongrichd: no prob17:28
mc44boubbin_: rough translation? :)17:28
boubbin_mc44 but it clearly says that i dont have the modules for it.17:28
gary4garJovaro, have your tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?17:28
boubbin_mc44 ok sec17:28
ipxbXi: no they dont, sorry17:28
ReubenRight...can someone tell me quickly in the Prepare Disk Space, in the Guided - resize partition part...is the "New Partition Size" the size of the newly created partition or the size of the resized partition?17:28
mc44boubbin_: try installing linux-restricted-modules17:28
Quintasannerdygirl_ellie: video files17:28
tattersmolnitza:  do you have the build-essential package?17:28
remix5xanyone know what happens if i stop the upgrade from feisty to gutsy? Will it keep the update files for later or will I have to redownload all the files all over again?17:28
lotiafolks, whats up with flash support on amd64 with gutsy?17:29
molnitza@tatters: I think so... wait17:29
generalsnusVlet: point taken17:29
Amaranthremix5x: If it's still downloading you can stop it and it'll start where it left off17:29
VletReuben: Newly created17:29
generalsnus:P17:29
Hestv4lotia: there is no flash for amd64...17:29
jdongremix5x: downloaded files are resumed later17:29
lotiaand also java-plugin support17:29
Amaranthremix5x: If it's installing stopping it will probably break your computer17:29
boubbin_mc44 didnt help yet. i can translate it to ya.17:29
siriusnovaThere are waaay to many people in here17:29
jdongremix5x: once you get disk activity / installing, DO NOT stop it17:29
ReubenVlet: thanks :P17:29
Hestv4lotia: you have to run the ia32 version of firefox17:29
lotiaHestv4: thanks17:29
remix5xAmaranth: thanks, yes i meant downloadign17:29
molnitza@tatters:Yes I have.17:29
nerdygirl_ellieQuintasan: from the command line, mencoder can do it, but for something friendlier, search synaptic for movie editor  there are a LOT of them.17:29
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Jovarogary4gar, will do now17:29
asac_the_3rdlotia: you can just install them ... they are available on amd6417:29
Hestv4lotia: there are guides how to do it on the 'net...17:29
mc44boubbin_: linux-restricted-modules-generic17:30
gary4garJovaro, ok17:30
asac_the_3rdHestv4: you can now use 64bit firefox for flash in gutsy ... just install the flashplugin-nonfree package17:30
Alexismoy[18:22] <nerdygirl_ellie> Alexismoy: try commenting out all of your non-standard repositories.  I had to disable the wine and miro repos, as well as (gasp) the automatix repo. <= done, but it's the same17:30
lotiaHestv4 asac_the_3rd : thanks, just wanted to see if they did something different17:30
nemilarAnyone getting errors while upgrading (i386, Fiesty to GG)?17:30
Hestv4asac_the_3rd: g'dam! that's wonderful!17:30
lotiawith gutsy that is17:30
nerdygirl_ellieAlexismoy: did you do an apt-get update afterwards?17:30
lotiaalso is there a GUI for LVM yet?17:30
Reubenstuporglue: thanks so much again :P17:31
asac_the_3rdlotia: install flashplugin-nonfree and icedtea-java7 plugins17:31
windowsrefuno don't17:31
Reubenoops he's gone17:31
AmaranthOh yeah, we have iceatea now :)17:31
Amarantherr, icedtea17:31
windowsrefuasac_the_3rd, please don't ask people to install freedom restricting software on their computers17:31
Amaranthwindowsrefu: ...17:31
EulexI'm considering getting my grandpa to run linux, because windows is just causing too much trouble. however, I see a possible usability problem with switching over to ubuntu, and possibly also a driver problem: he's on dial-up, and it's some generic winmodem. does ubuntu support any such, and if it does, do you get a dial-up window automatically when it's needed like in windows? or is there any way to connect to the internet through the gui at all?17:32
generalsnusOk..guys.. im trying to "make" nvclock from CVS .. make command gives this error output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41085/  ..what can ya make of it?17:32
mc44windowsrefu: if people want to install them, we tell them how17:32
hbI'm having trouble getting grub to install on a system with a FAKEraid configuraion.  /dev/hd0 and /dev/md1 (/dev/md0 = swap) both fail.  what am I doing wrong?17:32
asac_the_3rdwindowsrefu: feel free to educate them ... i did all i do by giving them the choice in plugin finder wizard17:32
AmaranthEulex: The gnome network tools can do dialup17:32
tattersmolnitza: looks like ure in wrong directory17:32
boubbin_mc44 "The module restriocted drivers cannot be loaded. \n Diagnostics \n Possible reasons: \n * An error occured within former KDE-update that left a alonely controlmodule \n * Your computer have an old 3rd party module \n Check these options very carefully and try to remove the module that is mentioned in the errormessage above, If you cant do it, consult your "distro-giver" or the party that made the package17:32
AmaranthEulex: Not sure about the driver for the modem17:32
nicholasEulex: get a proper modem though. one with speakers and shit17:32
windowsrefumc44, do you sell them crack if they want it too?17:32
EulexAmaranth, yeah. I'm not even sure of what chipset it has.17:32
Amaranthnicholas: language17:32
ebirtaidwow17:33
mc44windowsrefu: nope, only if it's packaged for ubuntu17:33
nicholasthey're cheap second hand17:33
Amaranthwindowsrefu: offtopic17:33
ebirtaidwindowsrefu you are ignorant17:33
windowsrefucoke?17:33
windowsrefuspeed?17:33
stray77Ok, if youre using an nvidia 5200 card with dual outputs and having no luck, get your dvi to vga adapter out and use the dvi port.  Thats the only way i could get X to run17:33
mc44boubbin_: what package name does it mention?17:33
edulix_hi people! I wonder... is there any plan to get deb package updates in binary diffs? downloading the whole package just for security fix is a waste of resources both in clients and the server17:33
Eulexnicholas, not sure I could convince him to buy one, but if I manage to find one cheap or so I will17:33
boubbin_mc44 none :)17:33
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trprit is odd to see a troll come from this particular perspective ;)17:33
molnitza@tatters: From which folder i have to work?17:33
Amaranthtrpr: Not as odd as I'd like17:33
stray77Thanks to coolmatty for that guess17:33
CharlieSuCould anyone look at this??  http://pastebin.com/d6310efef  I just did a do-release-upgrade and got this error and it failed because previously i messed with libtorrent shared object..  Any ideas  ?  Is the upgrade complete?17:34
claws_bugsso ubung 2 is debian17:34
EulexAmaranth, I'm actually not even sure the box could run gnome well. it's an old compaq with a 533mhz celeron, and more importantly, only 64mb ram17:34
claws_bugshm17:34
ExtremeDANNISProprietary software can be good software, too.17:34
boubbin_mc44 the only module that is meantioned there is the Restricted module itself.. and that is not meantioned the way it should.17:34
oobletops considering mode +D? :)17:34
claws_bugsIm always cnonfused by debian packages being behind17:34
AmaranthEulex: Ah, no17:34
AmaranthEulex: You need at least 25617:34
ReubenVlet: 100% sure on the New Partition thing? :P just making sure cause the minimum i can resize it is 136.1 gb and i am wondering why17:34
hbwhat is the default fake raid device address?17:35
EulexAmaranth, oh. that's too bad. would xubuntu run on it?17:35
AmaranthEulex: Probably not17:35
EulexAmaranth, is 256mb for the installation or also after installing?17:35
Bobcatbenhas anyone ran into a problem with your keyboard after install?17:35
Jovarogary4gar, still black... any other ideas?17:35
mc44boubbin_: what does this say: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-generic17:35
AmaranthEulex: 192 would be enough if you only want to run one thing at a time17:35
* Alexismoy is looking for french repository that works :)17:35
molnitza@tatters: I use this guide: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=rt250017:35
windowsrefuhey, can I have some crack?17:35
ReubenVlet: kinda points to it being the exiting partition being resized and the 'New Partition' is the size of the resized partition17:35
lekuhello17:35
Reubenexisting even17:35
lekuwhen I try to run dpkg --reconfigure -a or -t or something17:35
lekuit tries to restart network-manager with the dbus thing17:36
ghosthey can someone tell me how to install beryl because synaptic package manager can't find it?!17:36
lekuand then I can't type17:36
lekuand the load avg on my system goes crazy17:36
mc44ghost: beryl no longer exists17:36
EulexAmaranth, guess I would have to skip ubuntu then and try good ole debian then if I decided to get him onto linux. thank you.17:36
Mad_bolmy ubuntu it's slow17:36
lekuand i have to do a hard reboot17:36
AmaranthEulex: I doubt that'd help much either17:36
windowsrefuEulex, ubuntu is Debian17:36
ebirtaideulex: there are other smaller distros17:36
AmaranthEulex: Unless you want to give him fluxbox17:36
eightsmc44: whats repaces it?17:36
lekughost: beryl is deprecated17:36
mc44ghost: it's compiz fusion which is installed by default17:36
ghostso what works the same? compiz?17:36
DopplerDeffectghost, you need to add a repository that contains it,  please hold for a link17:36
ebirtaidtry puppy or damn small or something17:36
boubbin_mc44 http://pastebin.com/m2e8fcbfc17:36
lekucompiz-fusion17:36
lekucompuz-fusion-manager or something17:36
mc44DopplerDeffect: er... no17:36
lekuis what u want17:36
gary4garJovaro, other idea would be the refresh rate & monitor horizontital and vertical sync rates , other than that try boothing with VESA17:37
Jovarogary4gar, how do i boot with vesa17:37
Hohlraumis there a boot option to force the gutsy live cd to NOT use swap partitions on the system?17:37
mc44boubbin_: what card are do you have?17:37
claws_bugsarchlinux is best so far17:37
claws_bugswith iceWM17:37
gary4gar!VESA17:37
ubotuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x17:37
claws_bugsive seen17:37
EulexAmaranth, *shrug*, it runs on my p2 300mhz with 64mb ram. but I don't know if this conversation is suitable for this channel.17:37
claws_bugseven nicer han freebsd17:37
DopplerDeffectghost, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml it explains how to add the repository, the one for compiz also contains beryl, awn, etc17:37
gary4gar!VESA | Jovaro17:37
ubotuJovaro: please see above17:37
boubbin_mc44 nvidia geforce 5600fx 256mt17:37
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mc44DopplerDeffect: it's installed by default in gutsy17:38
nathan_nathan17:38
Bobcatbeni have this strange problem, i installed 7.10 just now, worked fine in the live cd, and everything, but once X starts i lose all keyboard support, ive tried both ps2 and usb, still nothing, anyone have a idea?17:38
WikzoJust upgraded to 7.10 ... what had happened to my folder emblems, they are so small? Can't make them any bigger like before? http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7827/skrmbilledezq6.png17:38
claws_bugsI am curous about plan9, opensolaris17:38
Reubenvlet: oh my god...i think i just formatted my XP :(17:38
claws_bugsand dragonfly bsd17:38
PovAddictReuben: congrats?17:38
espereguanybody experience on how to upgrade to gutsy using APT-CACHER ???17:38
DopplerDeffectmc44, I can do some things in beryl I can't do in compiz, alpha blur for example17:38
thomas__bug 15350017:38
wathekhello I've a big problem when I try to upgrade my systeme and when trying to install the new packages I get this unable to make backup link of `./usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/openofficeorg23-writer.png' before installing new version: Operation not permitted17:38
hbnobody has insatlled a fakeraid system? :(17:38
dogwaterAnyone know why I'm unable to install system-config-kickstart via apt-get?17:38
mc44DopplerDeffect: beryl no longer exists, it's compiz fusion17:38
ReubenPovAddict: haha yes as much as i wnat to use linux only...a lot of sutff only runs with Windows wanted to do the dual boot17:39
nathan_hi guys I am a huge noob trying to install a driver for my creative soundcard my instuctions say to type ./installer in the termenal but that gives me an error...17:39
Inspironif I take for 64 bit, can I find all the drivers and programs what I need, or is better to download 32 bit edition?17:39
peggerwhich is more secure chrooting apache or using AppArmor on apache?17:39
Jake_001why is it with ubuntu you hardly ver hear it accessing the hard drive.....windows grinds on almost constantly...17:39
ebirtaideperegu:  you can not use APT-CACHER to upgrade anything17:39
wathekany solution for that error ?17:39
nicholaspegger: AppArmor. chroots are not for security17:39
lancetww17:39
nemilarI'm getting an error upgrading to FF: "Unable to find expected entry  mail/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file"  I think it's supposed to be "main/binary..."  any ideas?17:39
ttjavahi guys, just a short question, can windows program run under ubuntu, say World of warcraft, office 2007?17:39
DopplerDeffectmc44, the alpha blur in compiz does not work, I installed beryl out of synaptics (using that repository mentioned above) and blur worked fine. I still went back to compiz afterwards but beryl still does some things compiz doesn't17:40
nemilarupgrading to GG*17:40
stray77Jake_001, cause microsoft sucks? lol17:40
espereguebirtaid: why not? isn't apt-cacher the hole point of that?17:40
XsteelWolfupdating to gutsy is apt-get update then apt-get upgrade?17:40
Wikzottjava: Yes, with Wine or Cedega17:40
airtonarantesInspiron, 32bits to user is better so much 64bits17:40
peggernicholas they just keep the break in the one area, woudl you agree17:40
mc44DopplerDeffect: in gutsy?17:40
ebirtaidesperegu:  apt-get dist-upgrade17:40
mc44boubbin_: try apt-get install nvidia-glx-new17:40
DopplerDeffectmc44, no, feisty17:40
Amaranthnemilar: You have a typo in your sources.list17:40
bXiokay this is weird17:40
nathan_Can anyone help with installing my soundcard driver?17:40
WikzoJust upgraded to 7.10 ... what had happened to my folder emblems, they are so small? Can't make them any bigger like before? http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7827/skrmbilledezq6.png17:40
Jake_001stray77 cos ubuntu is a real operating system i suppose :P17:40
Pici!traffic17:40
ubotuNOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!17:40
DopplerDeffectmc44,  but i don't see why it wouldn't work on gutsy17:40
nathan_wtf is with all the bot spam shit17:40
mc44DopplerDeffect: yes, we are talking about gutsy. Beryl no longer exists. Compiz fuzion is installed by default17:40
ebirtaidnathan_ they are removing bans17:40
linux_beginnerhey, is there any torrent available for Ubuntu 7.10 ????17:41
Jovarogary4gar, in xorg.conf, I changed driver to "vesa" and still black...17:41
Amaranthnathan_: It's not bot spam, it's us clearing old bans. And please watch your language.17:41
ebirtaidfn'linux_beginner: yes17:41
Pici!torrents > linux_beginner (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)17:41
tattersmolnitza: what directory are u in when trying to compile,?  it seemd like your first attempt was in right directory and your second attempt is in wrong directory17:41
PovAddictlinux_beginner: yeah17:41
ttjavawikzo, thanks man. is ubuntu another unix/linux? i just checked up official site, get no clue17:41
hbjake_001: I dont it's just C:\windows reading your disk.  if our using vista with their live desktop that will contine to archive your drive much like typing sudo updatedb every couple of minutes.  but as I said It is more likely that you have several programs trying to read your disks at once.17:41
nathan_sorry17:41
nemilarAmaranth: hahaha word thank you thank you17:41
Inspironairtonarantes, Thank you I'll download 32 than!17:41
Eastin24What's the md5 hash for 7.10 Gutsy 64bit version?17:41
Tech-Mikesup peeps, why do i get better performance and no internet connection drops with vista compared to with ubuntu - sometimes takes 20 seconds to even load the app and drops or stops my net connection17:41
PiciEastin24: Its on the download page17:41
PovAddict61c87943a92bc7bf519da4e2555d6e86 *ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso17:41
espereguebirtaid: think you misunderstood: http://www.nick-andrew.net/projects/apt-cacher/17:41
DopplerDeffectIf I update feisty to gutsy using the update manager, will it overide my manual compiz install with gutsy's version?17:41
linux_beginnerthanx17:41
tommygjhmm the title-bar on my windows disappeared. which effect is that? I was testing the compiz effets17:41
hbjake_001: I dont think*17:41
Eastin24thankyou17:41
boubbin_mc44 you sure qabout the "-new" ? in feisty i used just nvidia-glx17:41
f0rgeIf`k17:41
gary4garJovaro, then i don't know :( open thread at ubuntuforums.org wait for response17:41
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molnitza@tatters: Is is all in my home dir /home/USER/rt2500-cs..../modules17:41
Amaranthboubbin_: If you want compiz you want nvidia-glx-new17:41
f0rgeIf`I cant seem to enable the compiz effects, even tho I've got a 8800gts17:41
Bobcatbenhas anyone had a problem with losing keyboard support once gutsy is installed?17:42
f0rgeIf`Whats the problem?17:42
Jake_001hb you dont think what?17:42
Jovarook thanks for your help gary4gar17:42
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dogwaterHi, can someone do me a favor on 7.10, type system-config-kickstart? does it say type apt-get system-config-kickstart to install it, and then when you type that does it fail?17:42
nathan_is ~$ root?17:42
Amaranthboubbin_: The experience with nvidia-glx is...suboptimal17:42
nicholaspegger: http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Abusing_chroot17:42
keo92Hello all !!17:42
dogwater(please)17:42
Jake_001hb oh lol sorry a typo17:42
Jake_001lol17:42
NeoGeo64I'm downloading Ubuntu off a server in the UK... I'm getting 60k/sec17:42
peggernicholas so you belive apparmor is better17:42
Eulexnathan_, on, # is17:42
dgrdoes anyone have 2 monitors? have you managed to get both of them working on separate views? my second monitor is just blacked out17:42
mc44boubbin_: should be -new17:42
tommygjhow do I enable windows-title bar again? whats the name of the effect that removes it17:42
XsteelWolfupdating to gutsy is apt-get update then apt-get upgrade?17:42
PovAddictNeoGeo64: what's your max connection speed?17:42
boubbin_Amaranth ok17:42
boubbin_mc44 ok17:42
peggernicholas also have you set up tripp wire before?17:42
Wikzottjava: Ubuntu is a distributio of Linux :) Try visit this website and watch their videos. http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/ . Wine is a program that lets you play Windows files on Linux, yes17:42
Picidogwater: What does `apt-cache policy system-config-kickstart` return?17:42
f0rgeIf`Why cant i enable compiz? I've got a 8800gts17:42
Amaranthdogwater: That's what it says here17:42
boubbin_mc44 then reboot the x (ctrl+alt+bs) ?17:42
NeoGeo64PovAddict: 860k/sec17:43
nathan_Eulex how do I create a root account on a fresh install?17:43
PovAddictNeoGeo64: can I pm you? this channel is going too fast :P17:43
shuvebXsteelWolf, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade17:43
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: Did you install the driver using the restricted manager?17:43
dogwaterPici: it says unable to locate package...17:43
NeoGeo64if you want17:43
Joanki123i'm considering downloading ubuntu - is ubuntu the best linux type of system, and if so, what version do you recommend?17:43
Picidogwater: On gutsy?17:43
mc44boubbin_: then sudo nvidia-xconfig17:43
XsteelWolfshuveb, im on 7.10 (1 week old) do i still need dist-upgrade?17:43
dogwaterAmaranth: does that seem somewhat strange to you?17:43
NeoGeo64now im getting 4k/sec17:43
Jimdbi idid an upgrade on one machine 3 days prior to the official release and my whole install went bezerk.  hopefully others have better luck.  i'm downloading the cd now so I can just reinstall.  it's that bad.17:43
shuvebXsteelWolf, after you have  changed "feisty" to "gutsy" in your sources.list file17:43
bXiJoanki123: it purely depends on what you want to do17:43
Joanki123oh17:43
tritiumJoanki123: you're in luck.  A brand new release is out today -- version 7.1017:43
Eulexnathan_, I'm sorry, I don't really use ubuntu (though I know that the root account is supposed to be disabled on it), I just came into this channel asking some questions to help me decide whether to install it or not.17:44
AmaranthJoanki123: We're obviously going to tell you Ubuntu is the best. :) You should get Ubuntu 7.10, just released today17:44
shuvebXsteelWolf, nope17:44
dogwaterPici: yes on 7.10 server17:44
VletJoanki123: If you're new to linux, then yeah, most people here would say that it's the best choice, and you should get the latest version17:44
f0rgeIf`I installed the driver for my gfx card from the official nvidia page Amaranth17:44
Joanki123but isn't it bad to use a new release?17:44
hbwhere can I go to get raid advice with the new gutsy install?  What little information I've found online tells me how to make the array but that's not the problem (anymore ><)17:44
Amaranthdogwater: No, why?17:44
Joanki123shouldn't you let everyone ELSE test the bugs17:44
tattersmolnitza: is you got latest stable aircrack find the airopdate.sh and run that, it will download and  compile the drivers for you , I have also compiled from same howto as you and there were no problems so not exactly sure why yours is failing17:44
tritiumJoanki123: no17:44
Pici!info system-config-kickstart gutsy | dogwater17:44
bXiJoanki123: we already did :p17:44
ubotudogwater: system-config-kickstart: graphical tool for creating Kickstart files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.20-0ubuntu16 (gutsy), package size 660 kB, installed size 3176 kB17:44
sacaterJoanki123: there is no best linux system, ubuntu is just favoured with begginers, i would suggest you get the version released yesterday 'Gutsy Gibbon' aka Ubuntu 7.1017:44
NeoGeo64firefox says 4 hours remain, i can usually download ISOs in 25 minutes17:44
tritiumJoanki123: it has been in development/test for the past six months17:44
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: That's your problem then. Run `sudo nvidia-xconfig -d 24 --add-argb-glx-visuals` and restart X17:44
Joanki123oh17:44
nathan_eulex well from what I can tell its a POS my first distro of linux ever though...17:44
Picidogwater: Do an apt-get update and try again17:44
Jake_001hb i just cant stand vista....makes me like xp...:P17:44
asac_the_3rdNeoGeo64: use torrent17:44
bXiNeoGeo64: are you behind a cisco ?17:44
stiev3tommygj, sounds like your window decorator disabled for some reason.   This could be a result of any number of configuration problems, I'm no pro but when I ran into that, I took it to the forums/google.17:44
dryrotim torrenting the iso, tells me '1 hour'17:44
dogwaterPici: Oh, it only works in graphical?17:44
tattersmolnitza: can u pastebin your output this room moves too fast17:44
Joanki123but what is different between ubuntu and something like redhat17:44
Yautjais Ubuntu some kind of linux/unix? sorry for this question,17:44
boubbin_mc44 niceone working like a pig. thanks.17:44
shuvebXsteelWolf, just update and then upgrade17:44
NeoGeo64bXi: No... It's just every server is overwhelmed.17:44
|Eterna|hola desde España, alguien que sepa hablar español?17:44
Picidogwater: I dont know17:44
mc44boubbin_: no problem17:44
|Eterna|hola desde España, alguien que sepa hablar español?17:44
Pici!es | |Eterna|17:44
ubotu|Eterna|: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.17:45
molnitza@tatters: okay17:45
AmaranthYautja: Yes, it's a distribution of linux17:45
hbJake_001: you're not alone.17:45
Bobcatbencan anyone help me, i just installed 7.10, loved it as a live cd, used the right soundcard and everything, problem is, once its done installing and i boot into it, my keyboard quits working, so i cant even login.... anyone have a idea of how to fix it?17:45
bXiNeoGeo64: you mean ubuntu mirrors?17:45
ahaslamHi guys, how are you finding Gutsy?17:45
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  thank you17:45
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  brb17:45
NeoGeo64bXi:  Yes, every mirror is either full or very slow.17:45
nathan_anyone know how to use /installer in the terminal it keeps saying no directory found17:45
WikzoJust upgraded to 7.10 ... what had happened to my folder emblems, they are so small? Can't make them any bigger like before? http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7827/skrmbilledezq6.png17:45
YautjaAmaranth, thx17:45
hbAnd what does being a noobie have to do with liking ubuntu?17:45
bXii just updated and i pulled roughly 970kb/s17:45
Joanki123yea17:45
NeoGeo64well in about 12 hours ill have it17:45
karin5482hello, i have installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop version on my new computer with motherboard "DP35DPM intel" but it seems that ubuntu didnt recognized my onboard network ?17:45
Joanki123good question17:45
Jake_001hb the system resources it needs are huge....i found it just sat idling at start up and it was using 300 meg17:45
ahaslamanother dev's playground?17:45
Joanki123i think i'm gonna partition my computer17:45
dogwaterIn 'tasksel' which thing is the 'Gnome desktop environment'?17:45
Jake_001hb i mean why does an os need all that??17:45
ReubenVlet: u therE?17:45
FantazyiaI should have known better than to upgrade the day of release17:46
* NeoGeo64 thinks of all the poor saps who are trying to get other distros from said mirrors today17:46
AmaranthJake_001: offtopic17:46
tritiumhb: it has proven to be very user-friendly.  Hence, new users have liked it.17:46
ebirtaidneogeo: try torrents?17:46
ebirtaidI am hitting my download cap on torrent17:46
NeoGeo64whats the torrent link please17:46
Joanki123did anyone see my q?17:46
Joanki123what makes ubuntu better than redhat?17:46
ebirtaidits at the bottom of the download page17:46
AmaranthJoanki123: #ubuntu-offtopic17:46
dogwaterNm, i guess i'll just make the kickstart config on my laptop17:46
bXiJoanki123: its not better just different17:46
AmaranthJoanki123: This channel is much too busy for such questions17:46
tritiumJoanki123: that question is best answered by trying it out, and finding out for your self17:46
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Joanki123hm17:47
Joanki123ok17:47
muskogeerabbitIn trying to upgrade my 7.04 64 installation, I get the following. Failed to fetch http://repository.debuntu.org/dists/feisty/Release Unable to find expected entry  multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) How do I find the offending repository to remove it?17:47
hbwow you guys have been busy17:47
ahaslamguys, download from Irland ;)17:47
FantazyiaMy update failed at about 80% due to tzdata and linux-util failing to configure ... anyone know how to fix this.  I am sure if i reboot right now my system will be hosed17:47
hbI have a 1:25 ratio for the gutsy distro o.o17:47
Seveasmuskogeerabbit, don't use 3rd party repos17:47
Amaranthmuskogeerabbit: You've been using non supported 3rd party repos17:47
hbgogo torrents17:47
dryrotNeoGeo64: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent17:47
Amaranthmuskogeerabbit: Get rid of all of them17:47
NeoGeo64I cannot get into the FTP server to download the rottent!17:47
NeoGeo64torrent!*17:47
Levieli checked whether my network card is detected, but now CoolMatty has gone.  Somebody else, please help me with my network setup?17:47
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  it didn't work :x17:47
rakyrwhere is a good guide to user privileges17:47
karin5482how can i make the ubuntu detect my network card (onboard)17:48
muskogeerabbitOk. Thanks.17:48
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: pastebin the output from `compiz --replace`17:48
frostburnwhat software can i use to concat pdf files17:48
nathan_can anyone tell me how to use ./installer from the terminal I keep getting a message saying no such file or directory...17:48
Sp0tUbWhy dosent "Evolution EMail" get my SMTP?17:48
hbrakyr: when in doubt chmod 777.  (waits the +b)17:48
siriusnovaGuys17:48
Amaranthnathan_: It's probably on your desktop17:48
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  pastebin the output ? :x17:48
siriusnovalets vote if i should install Ubuntu on my brand new macbook17:48
Amaranthnathan_: cd Desktop17:48
Joanki123the link to download 7.1 is not working17:48
siriusnova:)17:48
Joanki123link not found btw17:48
Amaranth!pastebin | f0rgeIf`17:48
ubotuf0rgeIf`: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)17:48
nathan_ty17:48
Picihb: dont suggest that, even in hest17:48
pike_nathan_: what are you installling?17:48
Picis/hest/jest17:48
mc44Joanki123: try another mirror17:48
NeoGeo64OK IM on the torrent now17:48
Joanki123k17:48
Seamooseinstall it!17:48
WikzoJust upgraded to 7.10 ... what had happened to my folder emblems, they are so small? Can't make them any bigger like before? http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7827/skrmbilledezq6.png17:48
dwxreapersir: no reason to get rid of osx doesn't suck like windows17:48
Baxhow do I search for a file called "plcol_"?17:49
nathan_@pike trying to install soundcard driver17:49
siriusnovadwreaper - haha17:49
FantazyiaMy update failed at about 80% due to tzdata and linux-util failing to configure ... anyone know how to fix this.  I am sure if i reboot right now my system will be hosed17:49
NeoGeo64I am only getting 20k/sec on the torrent17:49
AmaranthWikzo: Please don't repeat yourself17:49
MasterShrekBax, locate17:49
gary4garfrostburn, do you want pdf reader?17:49
NeoGeo64Ok.. Now I'm getting 2317:49
PiciBax: find / -name "pclcol_"17:49
Amaranthwizo: Afaik there is no way to control the size of the emblems, it's just the size of the emblem icon17:49
frostburngary4gar, merge multiple pdfs together17:49
PiciNeoGeo64: #ubuntu-offtopic17:49
WikzoAmaranth: It was bigger in 7.0417:49
HohlraumWikzo: it was like that pre-release as well.  i assume it was a design change or a bug.  eitherway it sucks and will probably get fixed.17:49
AmaranthWikzo: Your icon theme probably changed17:49
WikzoHohlraum: Ok, but now you can't see what it is17:49
dogwaterHi, I hate to bug you, but can anyone install system-config-kickstart?17:50
seamus7boris__: the key was out of date ... you should be able to update now without getting that gpg error ... if you still get the error you'll need to update the key first17:50
Eastin24sry i cant find the hashes in download page :S can anyone give me the address?17:50
Picidogwater: let me try17:50
WikzoAranel: Maybe because of Compiz Fusion?17:50
hbpici: I wouldn't agree.  chomd 777 is a valid command for a reason.  It may not be a permanent fix but it's saved me a few grey hairs.17:50
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  umm.. when i typed compiz --replace in terminal it restarted gnome I guess17:50
ravencoderhi17:50
pike_nathan_: ah, yes then if you downloaded from web broswer it is usually /home/username/Desktop that it drops it in. youll want to 'chmod +x /home/$USER/Desktop/installer' before you can run it17:50
Joanki1233 out of the mirror sites don't work, trying a 4th17:50
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: It restarted X?17:50
dogwateri've tried it on my laptop which is running desktop-gnome and on my server which is just text and neither of them can find the package17:50
seamus7boris__: sorry the guy maintaining that key just updated it ... said he'd forgotten to do so17:50
f0rgeIf`yeah17:50
boris__ok17:50
boris__thanks17:50
Eastin24sry i cant find the hashes in download page :S can anyone give me the address?17:50
f0rgeIf`seems so, Amaranth17:50
ravencoderanyone here play Guild Wars thru Cedega on ubuntu 7.04?17:50
pike_nathan_: the x will mark it executable17:50
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: Ok well it's a problem with your driver then. And since you're not using our packages...17:50
HohlraumWikzo: yeah, look for a bug report.  if not create one. i'm sure 2 million people will "me too" it.17:50
Joanki123alright found a working mirror17:50
stray77whats on the gutsy-dvd-i386.iso that isnt on ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso?17:50
Picihb: Yes, but I've seen a few people recursively chmod 777 their entire installs because they thought it would fix it.17:50
Psi-JackOkay, how can I setup a module dependancy for bttv to require snd-bt87x before loading bttv?17:50
PovAddictEastin24: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/MD5SUMS17:50
Amaranthstray77: All of main, iirc17:51
Joanki123alright, guys17:51
Picidogwater: Wants to install here.17:51
karin5482can someone plz help me ? how can i make my ubuntu to detect my network card ?17:51
boris__seamus7 W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3E231AC7F4ECF18117:51
Amaranthstray77: At least the alternative and desktop installers17:51
Joanki123thanks i'm gonna go wait for five hours for this thing to finish ;)17:51
Picidogwater: Can you pastebin your sources.list?17:51
ravencoderand what is the different init commands ?? i know init 6 is restart17:51
boris__w00t17:51
Bobcatbenhas anyone had problems with theyre keyboard not working after install?17:51
dogwaterpici: and all you did was type sudo apt-get install system-config-kickstart?17:51
stray77Amaranth, thanks17:51
dogwaterpici: i even tried it with synaptic and it couldnt find the pkg17:51
Picidogwater: aptitude, but yes, same thing.17:51
nathan_@pike thanks for your help :)17:51
Eastin24PovAddict: Thank you17:51
DevideZerokarin5482 , what is the card name ?17:51
_AndrewQuick question, anyone know how I make open office default the spell checker to English UK not English US?17:51
dogwateryarr.17:51
seamus7do this in a terminal: wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/reacocard.asc17:51
gary4garfrostburn,try any PDF editor never tried though17:51
hbpici: you can't do that without root privs, and if you understand how to enable root or open up a sudo term chmod 777 is the least of your concerns :>17:51
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  got the command for uninstalling my current nvidia driver? :x17:51
Fantazyia /sadface17:52
Piciboris__: Thats a 3rd party repo, disable it.17:52
_AndrewEvery time I change it, it will revert back to US17:52
seamus7boris__: do this in a terminal: wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/reacocard.asc17:52
karin5482DevideZero: it onboard network card ... my motherboard is : "DP35DPM"17:52
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: sudo ./NVIDIA-whatever.run --uninstall17:52
hbIs anybody having trouble with gutsy on a fakeraid install?  I can't get grup to install the boot loader :(17:52
boris__seamus7 did it17:52
hber  grub to install itself rather.17:52
mc44_Andrew: tools - options - language settings?17:52
seamus7boris__: now this: sudo apt-key add reacocard.asc17:52
seag33kI am trying to compile an older version of tcpreplay and I keep getting this error: configure: error: libnet not found17:52
karin5482DevideZero: intel17:52
Piciboris__: There is no 'gusty' in that repo, its still going to error out17:53
dogwaterPici: can we compare our sources somehow?17:53
generalsnuswhat are the command to install "headers for xlib" ?17:53
boris__Pici ok17:53
accumulatorhb: add your fakeraid mappings to /boot/grub/device.map17:53
_Andrewmc44: Thanks. I was looking in the wrong place17:53
seamus7boris__: then this: rm reacocard.asc17:53
Picidogwater: install pastebinit, then do `cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit`17:53
nathan_pike i just got this message chmod: cannot access `/home/nathan/Desktop/installer': No such file or directory17:53
kilo_ccnphello17:53
boris__seamus7 did it17:53
seamus7Pici: the key just posted on Ubuntu forums that he had failed to update the key .. he said it's updated now and the errors shoudl no longer appear17:53
trezSomeone know where I can get more information on "NET: Registered  protocol family 17"? Seems to be a source of Kernel Oops for me :)17:54
Amaranthnathan_: That's not the name of the file then17:54
seamus7boris__: did you do: rm reacocard.asc17:54
Amaranthnathan_: What are you trying to do?17:54
boris__seamus7 yes17:54
Bobcatbenamaranth: i have a question, you wouldnt happen to have a idea as to why my keyboard doesnt wo rk once gusty boots up would you?(the install that is, live cd works fine)17:54
generalsnuswhat are the command to install "headers for xlib" ?   i get the following errors when i run make: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41088/17:54
dogwaterPici: for some reason it didnt have 'main enabled' in package selection.... =/17:54
kilo_ccnpI want to learn linux  but I don't Know begin17:54
Ben_Csi have ssh installed on one of my network PCs. i can ssh to it from within the network, but when i ssh through my internet IP i don't seem to be able to connect. My DSL router has firewall but i forwarded port 22. when i scan ports from online site it says 22 is open. the response i get: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host     please help!17:54
seamus7now do : sudo apt-get update17:54
AmaranthBobcatben: Nope, never heard of that17:54
Picidogwater: very odd.17:54
hbaccumlator: well that's just it, i'm not sure what too add.  if I knew exactly what device to add to grub script I wouldn't be in this problem17:54
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Bobcatbenbleh17:54
nathan_amaranth I am trying to install a soundcard driver but I can't seem to access the installer17:54
accumulatorhb: what error do you get17:54
nathan_<----huge noob17:55
Amaranthnathan_: What sound card driver? All sound card drivers are in alsa17:55
hbaccumlator: fatal error on the install, let me see if it gives me a number17:55
Piciseamus7: but http://download.tuxfamily.org gutsy isnt a valid repo, he didnt say he was using the he least of your concerns :>17:55
nathan_its a creative soundcard driver17:55
kilo_ccnpCan you help me?17:55
bobesponjais there a link to an ubuntu torrent?17:55
DevideZerokarin5482 , hold on17:55
kritzstapfi want to use the moodbar in amarok, which packet do i need to use it for mp3-files? i already installed "moodbar"17:55
nathan_I downloaded a package it is sitting on my desktop17:55
Piciseamus7: er, mispaste.  Rather he didnt say he was using syzygy4217:55
Amaranthnathan_: What is the name of the file and where is it saved?17:55
boris__seamus7 and Pici i got gutsy17:55
padskiI see that the gutsy release was reported on slashdot as Debian news :-)17:55
molnitza@tatters: http://nopaste.com/p/a7iLYzksob17:55
Pici!torrents > bobesponja (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)17:55
Piciboris__: did that work?17:55
aatacan anyone help with gnokii and a nokia n72?17:56
seag33kanyone know how I can find the location of libnet?17:56
gary4garkilo_ccnp, go to google17:56
dogwaterPici: Hi, one other real quick random query :D Do you know if there is any magic dance you have to perform to get it to 'look better than vista?' everyone i talk to says that gnome on ubuntu is supposed to be all graphically incredible, etc..mine is pretty flat atm17:56
Levielkilo_ccnp: everybody's a bit busy with the new release today, so they're sort of slow on some questions :)17:56
KNYwhat's the md5 of 7.10-desktop-i386.iso?17:56
seamus7Pici: I missed that .. if he has an imcomplete sources.list entyr17:56
hbaccumulator: No number just says "Install of grub on /dev/md1: FATAL ERROR"17:56
boris__Pici are you talking about ?17:56
nathan_aramath i think the name of the file is installer and it is sitting in a folder on my desktop17:56
boris__Pici *what are you talking about (what if worked ?)17:56
Hairulfrbobesponja: ftp://multiportalen.dk/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent   ftp://multiportalen.dk/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent17:56
Piciboris__: nevermind17:56
boris__Pici srry english isnt my main language17:57
Amaranthnathan_: That's not the name of the file and you need to 'cd' into that folder before running whatever the installer is17:57
Picidogwater: desktop effects/compiz fusion is what everyone is raving about.17:57
boris__Pici: sudo apt-get update works now17:57
Symmetriawhats the command to do an upgrade of a feisty system to take it to gusty?17:57
Psi-JackAnyone know? I need snd-bt87x to load /before/ bttv, and I just don't remember how to make modprobe settings do that.17:57
mc44Symmetria: just run update-manager17:57
Nighthawk420hey yall im downloading via the update manager 7.10 and its takin forrrever.17:57
accumulatorhb: what devices/partitions make up /dev/md1?17:57
claws_bugsanyone here running a web2.0 site on u bung 217:58
Symmetriamc44 I need to do it via command line, Im working remotely17:58
mc44Nighthawk420: because lots of other people are too ;)17:58
Ubuseris this wallpaper in the 7.10? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Gutsy/DefaultWallpaperCriteria?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=warty-final-ubuntu.png17:58
mc44Symmetria: use update-manager-core17:58
dogwaterPici: huh, apparently compiz fusion is installed, thanks anyway lol :D17:58
Nighthawk420yea dogwater it is already installed17:58
minus_How is the official release of gutsy?17:58
minus_is it all smooth?17:58
minus_no errors?17:58
seamus7boris__: did the error go away?17:58
karin5482!network17:58
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:58
tattersmolnitza: did u sudo airopdate.sh  and make sure it was executable by typing chmod +x airoscript.sh17:58
karin5482!lan17:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:58
PovAddictminus_: the upgrade is smooth, the download isn't17:58
Nighthawk420mc44, lol man i feel ya on that one.  its lookin good hehe17:58
boris__seamus7; seems so17:58
dogwaterNighthawk420: the art style isn't like killing vista/os X like people have told me it does17:58
minus_PovAddict, the download?17:59
minus_What do you mean?17:59
SamJenkHi, im installing ubuntu 7.10 and am at the partioner screen. I have Windows XP already installed on a 320 GB drive that has roughly 60 GB free space. At the partion screen, it says "Guided -resize SCSI3 (0,0,0) partition #1 (sda) and use freed space". Below that is a "New Partition size:" bar that allows me to drag the size I want for the partition but at it's lowest setting (dragged all the way to the left) it's at 80% and says "817:59
SamJenk0% (236.7 GB)". Does this seem correct considering there is only 60 GB free space on the drive? I can't have Windows XP get messed up, will continuing harm it?17:59
minus_PovAddict, I've already downloaded the CD from ubuntu...17:59
PovAddictminus_: well, as usual, mirrors overloaded17:59
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PovAddictthen you're fine17:59
tattersmolnitza:  did u run airoscript as root17:59
Nighthawk420dogwater, what you saying man?17:59
lungtoysis this the help channel?17:59
lungtoys:o17:59
seamus7boris__: this is where i found the info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981&highlight=avant17:59
Picilungtoys: yes.17:59
kekZpriestermy ccsm crashes without opening a window, no matter if or if not compiz is running. http://rafb.net/p/WaTGAy60.html17:59
dawshello, what is the command to switch back to the guuty stable branch?17:59
lungtoysdoes ubuntu not install xgl/compiz if the hardware isn't supported?17:59
dogwaterNighthawk420: Ah, my buddies who love ubuntu on the desktop rave about how pretty it is compared to vista/OS X...17:59
Pici!final | daws18:00
ubotudaws: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.18:00
nathan_awe shucks Is there some kind of generic driver that will run creative cards?  Creatives release is for 64bit OSes only18:00
generalsnuswhat are the command to install "headers for xlib" ?   i get the following errors when i run make: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41088/18:00
ralphotorrents are kicking ass get it from torrent18:00
dawsPici, thank you :)18:00
Amaranthlungtoys: compiz is installed but default but drops back to metacity if it can't run18:00
karin5482i have computer with intel DP35DPM Motherboard and my NIC (onboard) not recognized by ubuntu what should i do ?18:00
boris__seamus7 thanks for help and Pici : thanks as well18:00
molnitza@tatters: yes it was.18:00
Amaranthlungtoys: xgl is something you have to install separately18:00
molnitza@tatters: or is18:00
Picigeneralsnus: xlibs-dev18:00
alromaithii just did 4 cd's and i get I/O error boot after pressing start install ubuntu , i cant install18:00
boris__bye every1 im gonna play tremulous18:00
claws_bugsis time or is linux failover clustering useless18:00
claws_bugsit it me18:00
claws_bugsis it me18:00
lungtoysamaranth: ok, i have a desktop pc with an nvidia card. installed gutsy and enabled the compiz desktop effects18:00
Nighthawk420dogwater, well i believe its better than vistas alot better... was a vista user for 6 months, then switched.  with compiz there is so much you can do with it. very powerful18:00
lungtoysAmaranth: is xgl not on my desktop pc?18:00
KeithWeissharwhy is the dvd version of ubuntu not listed on the download wizard18:01
PovAddictalromaithi: did you check md5 of iso before burning?18:01
l_totowhere can find gusty dvd's please (i've no more cd :/  )18:01
lungtoysAmaranth: or are they hand in hand?18:01
rskclaws_bugs: cheked the md5 sums ?18:01
SamJenkPlease help, I need to know if this is going to kill my Windows XP installation!!!18:01
foxinesskarin5482, search (google,launchpad.net) then send a bug report if not exist18:01
lungtoysl_toto: just burn it to dvd?18:01
alromaithihow to ceck i gogot the cd im in feisty now18:01
rskSamJenk: if you want it to18:01
PovAddictl_toto: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/dvd/current/18:01
generalsnusPici: E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate18:01
alromaithii want to do a fresh install PovAddict18:01
roker4eufuk fb18:01
l_totoPovAddict ty18:01
seamus7boris__: quick question .. are you using avant-window-navigator?18:01
Amaranthlungtoys: Xgl is not installed unless you installed it18:01
lungtoysdoes compiz require xgl to worK?18:01
Amaranthlungtoys: Only with fglrx18:01
chr12341I need help, the installer stopped at scanning for mirror for a few hours18:01
l_totolungtoys rr can we burn cd iso on dvd ?18:01
stray77no18:01
PovAddictalromaithi: why does that matter? you need to check your download before burning CDs18:02
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molnitza@tatter: yes: sudo sh airopdate.sh18:02
Picigeneralsnus: you need to enable the source repositories in system>administration>software sources first18:02
molnitza sudo sh airoscript.sh18:02
Amaranthlungtoys: #compiz-fusion for more of this discussion, this channel is too busy18:02
SamJenkrsk: Did you see my long question I typed above? I need XP to be untouched and the partioner seems like it's being very starnge...18:02
lungtoysAmaranth: thanks18:02
foxinesshow mutch of ram recommend to have this day ?18:02
lungtoysl_toto: i burned my gutsy iso to dvd18:02
roker4eufuk18:02
lungtoysl_toto: worked fine18:02
PovAddictfoxiness: as much as possible lol18:02
seamus7lungtoys: if you are on an ati video card then it likely does .. with fglrx18:02
l_totolungtoys i'll try then18:02
tomd123finally, I downloaded 7.10!!!!!!!!!!!!18:02
roker4efb18:02
lungtoysseamus7: likely does need xgl?18:02
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  k, uninstalled my nvidia driver. Now, I should just open synaptic and download glx-new I guess?18:02
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: No18:02
alromaithiPovAddict, its the full release from the site i pressed ont he banner download ontop of update18:02
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  ?18:02
foxinessPovAddict, lol k, 2GB ?18:02
abdurrahmanNo composite extension? türkçe lütfen18:02
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager18:02
silentmy #ubuntu+1 got destroyed18:03
MasterShrekfoxiness, 2gb is plenty18:03
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: It'll install it, set it up, and make sure it's setup right for compiz18:03
Pici!english > roker4e (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:03
PovAddictalromaithi: so? you probably downloaded it wrong18:03
roker4egfbd jjujjfb hcweui18:03
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  aha k18:03
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MasterShrekroker4e, please stop, this is a busy channel18:03
alromaithihuh"?18:03
f0rgeIf`Amaranth, thank you yet again :)18:03
roker4eufuueqwhjj  ejiuijw18:03
chrisef``hello, i have a problem upgrading to gusty, where can i go for help ?18:03
Konamhey18:03
alromaithiwhy whats wrong about what i did18:03
PovAddictroker4e: stfu18:03
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: de nada18:03
SamJenkHi, im installing ubuntu 7.10 and am at the partioner screen. I have Windows XP already installed on a 320 GB drive that has roughly 60 GB free space. At the partion screen, it says "Guided -resize SCSI3 (0,0,0) partition #1 (sda) and use freed space". Below that is a "New Partition size:" bar that allows me to drag the size I want for the partition but at it's lowest setting (dragged all the way to the left) it's at 80% and says "818:03
SamJenk0% (236.7 GB)". Does this seem correct considering there is only 60 GB free space on the drive? I can't have Windows XP get messed up, will continuing harm it?18:03
molnitza@tatters: the same errors from both files: ...Syntax error: "}" unexpected18:03
PovAddictalromaithi: nothing18:03
roker4eEFSYETHEDE JFJHEWEW18:03
chr12341My installation never finished, it stopped at "Scanning for mirrors"18:03
seamus7lungtoys: yes ... i'm using an ati radeon mobile x1300 and to get a composite desktop i've always had to use the proprietary fglrx driver with XGL ... used to use that with Beryl but now with Gutys its Compiz-Fusion of course18:03
PovAddictalromaithi: but maybe your download had a problem18:03
roker4egfrsjuht18:03
silentroker4e, don't be a fucktard18:03
PovAddictroker4e: STFU18:03
roker4ep18:03
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alromaithiPovAddict, i use download manager18:03
Seeker`!ops18:03
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici18:03
MasterShrek!ops18:03
AmaranthSeeker`: Dude, we're here18:04
PovAddictalromaithi: are you on windows now?18:04
PovAddict!md518:04
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows18:04
AmaranthSeeker`: We can't not be :)18:04
PatMan_chr1234 took me 30 mins scanning mirrors then completed18:04
abdurrahmanNo composite extension? türkçe lütfen18:04
mc44Amaranth: bit slow though ;)18:04
Nighthawk420seamus7, thats my vid card also. are you on gutsy and how hard was it to set up.  i had a lil diffictulty on 7.0418:04
Seeker`Amaranth: sorry, was just trying to be helpful18:04
chr12341PatMan_: tanks18:04
alromaithiPovAddict, im on feisty i wanted to do fresh install coz this feisty i got compiz installed manually18:04
tattersmolnitza: first type sudo mkdir home/root/   then run sudo ./airopdate.sh and chose option 2 and then  select your driver if that fails then you got some other problems somewhere18:04
KonamI'm having problems with grub: Error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition (trying to boot two installations of gutsy)18:04
KonamError 13 : Invalid or unsupported executable format (trying to boot a windows partition)18:04
PovAddictalromaithi: do you still have the .iso?18:04
chrisef``i get this while trying to upgrade to gutsy: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)18:04
chrisef``what should i do ?18:05
alromaithiPovAddict, and friends who updated from feisty to gutsy beta when they had compiz installed before not from repo it gave them a conflict with the existing gutsy's built in and made a big mess18:05
alromaithiPovAddict, yes its on the PC18:05
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  it was sudo ./filesblabla.run --uninstall right?18:05
seamus7Nighthawk420: gutsy installs fglrx automatically .. it's in the restricted drivers manager ... you can just check a box to enable it ... but you will have to install XGL but that just means checking a box in Synaptic .... it's now incredibly easy :)18:05
SamJenkWow so apparently no one knows anything about the partioner screen/partioning on installtion providing i have Win XP already installed eh... WONDERFUL. Looks like no ubuntu for me :(18:05
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Amaranthalromaithi: yes, if you use trevinho's repo in feisty your upgrade to gutsy is going to be painful18:05
Rynooanyone know the md5sum of the Ubuntu ISO?18:05
PovAddict!md5 > alromaithi18:05
abdurrahmanNo composite extension? türkçe lütfen ooffffff18:05
john_86e4848cdd091d413c01d4dfef48858818:05
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: right18:05
silentSamJenk, what are you talking about?18:05
PovAddictjohn_ no it's not18:05
f0rgeIf`no such command it says Amaranth  :x18:05
nicholasspeed doubled to 300kb/s18:05
Amaranthabdurrahman: fglrx?18:05
PovAddict61c87943a92bc7bf519da4e2555d6e86 *ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso18:06
PovAddictd2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c *ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso18:06
PovAddicthttp://se.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/MD5SUMS18:06
chrisef``i get this while trying to upgrade to gutsy: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) what should i do ????18:06
seamus7SamJenk: what do you want to know? I dual boot Vista18:06
Nighthawk420seamus7, sweeeeet i cant wait only ... 1.5 hours lleft on dl lmao18:06
abdurrahman?18:06
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: Obviously you have to have the nvidia installer file you used to install the driver18:06
PovAddictRynoo: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/MD5SUMS18:06
Separhow do you add more sides to the desktop cube? I have set the workspaces at 4 in compiz settings but the "cube" only has 2 sides, front and back18:06
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  yeah18:06
SamJenksilent: Can you scroll up and read my actual question plz. Or here, ill just paste it again...18:06
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: you run it again but with --uninstall18:06
f0rgeIf`Amaranth, I have that18:06
SamJenkHi, im installing ubuntu 7.10 and am at the partioner screen. I have Windows XP already installed on a 320 GB drive that has roughly 60 GB free space. At the partion screen, it says "Guided -resize SCSI3 (0,0,0) partition #1 (sda) and use freed space". Below that is a "New Partition size:" bar that allows me to drag the size I want for the partition but at it's lowest setting (dragged all the way to the left) it's at 80% and says "818:06
SamJenk0% (236.7 GB)". Does this seem correct considering there is only 60 GB free space on the drive? I can't have Windows XP get messed up, will continuing harm it?18:06
alromaithiim not in windows18:06
alromaithiPovAddict, im in feisty18:06
f0rgeIf`sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run --uninstall18:06
AmaranthSamJenk: Go for it18:06
chrisef``i get this while trying to upgrade to gutsy: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) what should i do ????18:06
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: Yes, that's why I said sudo ./NVIDIA-blah.run --uninstall ;)18:06
abdurrahmanati18:06
foxinessPovAddict, MasterShrek 1GB or 2GB (i have now 256+256 laptop)18:06
PovAddictalromaithi: then open a terminal/shell and type md5sum ubuntu-whatever.iso18:06
Baxanybody know a thing about regnum or vendetta online?18:07
Amaranthabdurrahman: You need to install xserver-xgl18:07
SamJenkamaranth: So even though there is only 60GB free on the drive and it says the new partion size will be 236.7 GB everything will be ok?18:07
frojndhello there18:07
AmaranthBax: offtopic18:07
Jake_001i have a geforce fx5200 card.  the shutdown splash goes scrambled. not really an issue but she weird. anyone know why?18:07
Picichrisef``: how are you trying to upgrade?18:07
Separanyone help?18:07
abdurrahmanthanks18:07
frojnddoes anyone know how can I download flash from http: on my disk18:07
AmaranthSamJenk: Wait, what?18:07
silentSamJenk, that can happen. and its usually the fault of windows creating a corrupt master boot record18:07
generalsnusPici: it wont enable ..ill either get a empty check box..or with a " - "18:07
AmaranthSamJenk: Just choose the automatic one18:07
tattersmolnitza: I just ran through those steps on clean machine and worked without error so not quite sure why yours is behaving differently18:07
* foxiness WoooW high load today18:07
SamJenkAmaranth: I have Windows XP already installed... i can't have it get screwed up.18:07
Picigeneralsnus: was it dashed before, or empty?18:07
silentSamJenk, I've had that problem, the only way to fix it is to repartition and install ubuntu... either that or you can try to run "fixmbr" in windows18:08
hbaccumulator: sorry I had to go look at something.  This is how I the system is setup (mot 100%)  /dev/sda /dev/sdb = Physical disks that make up the stripped fake raid.  /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 == /deb/md0/; the swap that I'm using md0 being the raid disk that was setup in the software raid configuration utility.  /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 == /dev/md1; the ext3 / partion that I configured to host the root filesystem.  again I get /dev/md0-1 from18:08
hb inside the setup configuration utility.  If I alt tab to f1-2 I can see /dev/md1;2 and even a directory /dev/md/ but the dir is empty.  Not sure what it means or what location grub should put the boot loader.18:08
seamus7SamJenk: I always use the alternate CD for installing Ubuntu on a hard drive that already has windows installed ... it gives me more options for setting up my partitions18:08
keo92hi all !18:08
thneewhat is that sound?!18:08
stray77SamJenk, b4 you install, make sure the free space on your drive that you keep refering to is unpartitioned, then install to that (i think its refered to as 'largest contiguous free space'). It will not be the default choice, its the 3rd one down if i recall correctly.18:08
AmaranthSamJenk: Then don't install Ubuntu18:08
generalsnusPici: was just a " - "18:08
keo92I need some help about OpenLDAP18:08
thneegutsy keeps playing this dung dung dung sound all the time, like a warning sound or something?18:08
AmaranthSamJenk: An OS install always has a chance of messing things up18:08
alromaithimd5sum: ubuntu: No such file or directory18:08
alromaithimd5sum: 7.10: No such file or directory18:08
alromaithimd5sum: i386: No such file or directory18:08
Picigeneralsnus: hold on, let me look18:08
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kerbau__how to connect internet on vmware18:09
generalsnusPici i disabled the cd-rom tho18:09
PovAddictalromaithi: dude your iso has spaces on it? :P18:09
swilli just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and it has pretty much killed my system.  firefox no longer renders text the same.  it takes about 1 second per character when typing.  not to mention kate pretty much doesnt even run anymore.  anyone else have similar problems???18:09
kerbau__ how i can tweak my home router to work for second ip18:09
alromaithino the cd is in PovAddict18:09
StwangeI'm on gutsy, and when I move my mouse over the seek bar when listening to/watching media, it jumps to where my mouse is without me clicking - how do I stop this?18:09
Picigeneralsnus: close out of the tool and go back in then try again18:09
alromaithiits what it says on my desktop PovAddict18:09
Amaranthswill: Is your HD light constantly on?18:09
PovAddictalromaithi: then put quotes around the filename18:09
Levielokay, someone - my network is not detecting, i need help setting it up, and i don't know where to begin or what information you need to help me18:09
rjonesxis there no Upgrade Manager for AMD/64 Feisty Fawn?18:09
kerbau__ i can connect my host os to guest os...but can't connect to internet on guest os if i using bridged connection..if i choose NAT connect i can connect to but is same ip host os....i want get different ip18:09
tech0007hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 30! mins! i need help!18:09
f0rgeIf`Amaranth,  hum :/ it still says sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run: command not found18:09
Amaranthrjonesx: sudo update-manager -d18:10
swillAmaranth:  no18:10
Amaranthf0rgeIf`: Then you don't have the file, download it again18:10
alromaithiguys how to check the md5sum of a cd18:10
Amaranthswill: Does top say anything?18:10
Pici!verify > alromaithi (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:10
foxinessif i want to upgrade then i will go with 1GB or 2GB , Current System : 256+256 laptop with 1.4Ghz centreno any recommended ? Thanks18:10
Amaranthalromaithi: The CD can check itself at boot18:10
mc44Amaranth: don't need -d any more :)18:10
rjonesxnope18:10
dutchhey so if i want to install gutsy, and i have a Core 2 Duo E6600, should i go standard x86 CD or 64-bit install?18:10
tattersmd5 filename18:10
Amaranthmc44: Yeah yeah18:10
kerbau__i want to different ip on my guest os how to i get that18:10
rjonesxwtf18:10
_4a42_f0rgeIf`: are you running the 64 bit version of ubuntu?18:10
rjonesxwhy do I not have an update manager?18:10
stray77dutch, 64bit18:10
Amaranthkerbau__: You can't do that, your ISP doesn't allow it18:10
tech0007hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 30! mins! i need help!18:10
generalsnusPici: ok did that now.. after enabling it downloads package info.. but i hangs on dl 8 of 2218:10
alromaithii cant boot this cd and even another 4 cd's i made18:10
kishandutch, yes18:10
mc44rjonesx: what do you mean, don't have?18:10
chapiumI get the following error when i try to update gutsy.  What should I do?18:11
chapiumE: tzdata: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1018:11
chapiumE: util-linux: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured18:11
alromaithiit says I/O error18:11
kerbau__i can't connect to internet if i using bridged connection18:11
f0rgeIf`_4a42_,  nope18:11
and1is it my net or is ubuntu's update server dragging ass today?18:11
hooviehi folks18:11
f0rgeIf`x8618:11
keo92please , no one for ldap ?18:11
Completenutter2its draggin ass :)18:11
alromaithiwhenever i click check for defects or start install or even memory test18:11
Completenutter2release day18:11
rjonesxsudo updatemanager => Command not found18:11
and1ty18:11
Picigeneralsnus: I think its just slow, getting hammered.18:11
Amaranthalromaithi: Burn slower18:11
Picirjonesx: update-manager18:11
alromaithithe cd keeps trying to read18:11
avarnerwell hey there Completenutter218:11
rjonesxyeah18:11
Amaranthalromaithi: Burn at 4x18:11
Vletand1: things are busy :)18:11
_4a42_f0rgeIf`: just checking :)18:11
Completenutter2hello :)18:11
beast_i have no sound on my dv6500 laptop and was hoping someone could help me out.18:11
DShepherddutch, u would go x8618:11
rjonesxi spelled it right18:11
alromaithiall burned slow yes18:11
alromaithiAmaranth, yes i know18:11
ralphoupdate is hammered without a doubt18:11
rjonesxwith the dash18:11
rjonesxstill no update manager18:11
avarnerDoes anyone know how to make NetworkManager store a default wireless network?18:11
Amaranthalromaithi: Ok then, see the PM from ubotu18:11
alromaithioffcourse i would burn slow18:11
mc44rjonesx: apt-get install update-manager18:11
molnitza@tatters: the same errors.... mhh18:11
hbfeck the other guy left18:11
rjonesxok18:11
rjonesxgracias18:11
and1rjonesx, try sudo apt-get update18:11
extrakicksup every118:11
f0rgeIf`_4a42_, :)18:11
kerbau__i can't connect to internet if i using bridged connection18:11
mc44rjonesx: you're using ubuntu right?18:12
Vletavarner: Manually set up the profile18:12
eternal_pavarner: on reboot NetworkManager automatically picks a network that it sees18:12
Amaranthkerbau__: Use NAT18:12
extrakickany1 know how i can enble 3d dexktop effects and wobble on 7.1018:12
swillAmaranth: top has Xgl and firefox-bin topping the list with about 11% mem and cpu usage they are bouncing around tho (obviously)...18:12
seamus7avarner: you can go into the gconf-editor and find the wireless networks there18:12
boris_how can i make ubuntu boot verbosely ?18:12
rjonesxgracias18:12
and1i dont use 7.1018:12
kerbau__i want to different ip on my guest os how to i get that18:12
hooviewhat's the grub syntax for booting off the third (primary) partition of a SATA harddisk on /dev/sda?18:12
Picirjonesx: what does lsb_release -a return?18:12
tech0007hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 35! mins! i need help!18:12
Amaranthextrakick: System->Preferences->Appearance, Visual Effects tab18:12
KeithWeisshardoes ubuntu need to be installed to the hd in order to install the nvidia driver18:12
and1try using beryl and or compiz18:12
kerbau__ i can connect my host os to guest os...but can't connect to internet on guest os if i using bridged connection..if i choose NAT connect i can connect to but is same ip host os....i want get different ip18:12
Separhow do you add more sides to the desktop cube? I have set the workspaces at 4 in compiz settings but the "cube" only has 2 sides, front and back.18:12
Vletextrakick: Preferences>>Appearance>>Visual Effects18:12
jimbojwis there a command line tool that will return the distro name / version as a string?18:12
extrakickawaranth, ur kiddin damn18:12
AmaranthSepar: Right click on the workspace switcher and choose preferences18:12
extrakickwen i select viual effects it wont work18:12
mc44jimbojw: lsb_release -a18:13
KeithWeissharis a hdd installation required to install the 3d driver needed for 3d desktop effects18:13
boris_how can i make ubutnu boot verbosely18:13
jimbojwthanks mc4418:13
swillamaronth: but i am not doing anything with firefox right now, it is just sitting htere.  not sure why it is taking so many resources.  and the problem with the text when typing makes it impossible to use.18:13
Linux_SShello everybody18:13
Vletextrakick: There's a lot of info on how to get it working on ubuntuforums.org18:13
extrakicki guess i should try installing proprietry  drivers18:13
alromaithii dont understand you want me to check the md5sum of my iso or the burned cd that im using18:13
Separthanks =D18:13
Amaranthextrakick: Then you can't use it18:13
eternal_pgetting cross-eyed..later18:13
dgjones!version | jimbojw18:13
ubotujimbojw: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell18:13
extrakickok thanx vlet18:13
tattersmolnitza: hmm, have you any problems compiling before? not sure why its failing18:13
Amaranthextrakick: If you have nvidia you have to install the proprietary drivers18:13
seamus7Separ: it's not the workspaces ... you'd need to go to Advance Desktop Effects Settings and go to General options ... there you'd change the horizontal screen number18:13
foxinessboris_, if u remove usplash what will happen :)18:13
claws_bugsI love giving boot 100M, swap 1000M, adn rest to /18:13
alromaithii see md5sum.txt inside the cd18:14
claws_bugsI ahte those /usr 500m nazis18:14
extrakickno i got ATI yeah i know, wrong hoice18:14
Levieloh, come on!  stop helping the buggers with their visual effects problems, and pleaaase just get me started somewhere!18:14
boris_foxiness how do i remove usplash ?18:14
Amaranthextrakick: X1000 or newer?18:14
extrakickbut i bought ati b4 i even heard of ubuntu hahaha18:14
boris_usplash is a package or what ?18:14
w00tzillamy ati card was detected on install but it is an older card18:14
claws_bugsleveiel whats up18:14
Separcan you also tell me how to get windows to pop out from the cube on rotate?18:14
extrakick955018:14
tech0007hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 40! mins! i need help!18:14
PovAddictSepar: #compiz-fusion18:14
Amaranthextrakick: Then you don't need the fglrx driver18:14
extrakicknot sure wat x1000 is18:14
kritzstapfwhen i start azureus, it just draws the main window and suddenly closes "Aborted (core dumped)". how to fix this?18:14
Amaranthextrakick: You've just been blacklisted18:14
Separah, thanks18:14
KeithWeisshardo i need to install ubuntu to the hard drive in order to install proprietary drivers18:14
swilllol, wow this is a busy room...  :)18:14
Linux_SShow make an ip alias without iptables or firewall? ex: ftp 200.183.200.200 -> 10.10.1 in localmachine?18:14
Completenutter2seamus7: thanks, thats what I was looking for :)18:14
PovAddictSepar: this channel is crowded enough18:14
Amaranth!compizblacklist | extrakick18:14
ubotuextrakick: The following cards are blacklisted in Compiz due to stability & compatibility issues: Intel 965. ATI: Rs480, Rv350. ATI Mobility: x300, x600, x700. More info: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist/18:14
foxinessboris_, if u do not get the basic do not do it ^_^18:14
Vletextrakick: it's possible to get it working, but when I had an ATI card here on my work system, I just didn't bother18:14
claws_bugshm18:14
tommygjwhy isn't my ubuntu using any swap? is it normal to just use the normal memory? it has detected the swap partition though18:15
extrakickno way18:15
alromaithihelp me please ;(18:15
garuhi everyone18:15
claws_bugsyes18:15
seamus7Completenutter2: :)18:15
jimbojwthanks dgjones18:15
Lososomg many people:D18:15
Losostest message18:15
boris_foxiness : this IS basic, in ubuntu dapper it is default18:15
claws_bugsswpa is used when all ram is taken18:15
claws_bugsya booger18:15
Vletextrakick: I just gave up and bought an nvidia card for my work system18:15
tommygjokey.18:15
molnitza@tatters: I join the aircrack channel. I think that is a special error. I think they know what it is to do. Thank you for your help! I am now on a good way :-)18:15
Kemi1Quick question: For best application compability, using an Intel Core 2 Duo processor should I go with the 32bit or 64bit install?18:15
tattersmolnitza: go back to drivers you downloaded go into the module folder in teminal and try make then sudo make install, pastebin the whole output18:15
Amaranthextrakick: Sorry.18:15
extrakickwell i've got it working on 7.04 so will stick with that then18:15
knoppix_holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa18:15
airtonarantestech0007, do you tested md5sum?18:15
garudoes this channel supports ubuntu gutsy, or still the 7.04?18:15
extrakickhad to do alot of work to get it working though18:15
Amaranthextrakick: Click on the link ubotu gave you18:15
Completenutter2its refreshing to see so many new people here trying out Ubuntu :D18:15
tattersmolnitza: ok18:15
hoovieKemi1: 32bit18:15
foxinessboris_, who ask about it must kow how to del  it18:15
extrakickso will wait a while maybe same will happen with 7.1018:15
Kemi1thanks hoovie18:15
frojnddoes anyone know how or with which program can I open swf file?  (vlc don't support it)18:16
Amaranthextrakick: You can skip the blacklist at your own peril18:16
foxinessgaru, read the Topic18:16
Nighthawk420Completenutter2, u see all the release parties for it lmao there were a ton world  wide18:16
molnitza@tatters: the make was without errors. it is only the script. mhhh...18:16
mc44frojnd: try firefox18:16
Lososit works, perfect X18:16
LososPLEASE HELP: when i want to login, i have toooooo big fonts in the username and password18:16
hooviefrojnd: try opening it in firefox18:16
Amaranthextrakick: Go to #compiz-fusion, they'll help you sort it out18:16
chapiumfrojnd: gnash works to (sort of)18:16
avsa242Have a strange one: Network activity *extremely* latent/slow in X (i.e. many dropped packets/long rtt's), yet in a vc is slick as snot. broadcom 4311v1, ndiswrapper 1.39 and 1.45 (2.6.20-15 leftover feisty kernel in gutsy, 2.6.22-14 also in gutsy-not really a viable option - something wrong with intel drm module/xserver)18:16
com4Is there a way, with the classic workspace switching in gl desktop, to have the ctrl+alt+arrow shortcut keys work?18:16
shinmenWhere can I find a jigdo file and template for the i386 desktop  or gutsy?18:16
foxinesstommygj, yes normal18:16
beast_i have no sound on my dv6500 laptop and was hoping someone could help me out. Just a wlakthrough or something18:16
extrakickno worries amaranth18:16
hooviebrb18:16
Completenutter2Nighthawk420: its all good :)18:16
Linux_SShow can i  make an ip alias without iptables or firewall? eg.: ftp 200.183.200.200 -> 10.10.1 on a localmachine?18:16
ReubenRight...can someone tell me quickly in the Prepare Disk Space, in the Guided - resize partition part...is the "New Partition Size" the size of the newly created partition or the size of the resized partition?18:16
shinmenthere are jigdo files for the rest of the ISOs but now for that one.18:16
MmphHi all, Is the new ubuntu for 64bit systems too? Last time I downloaded I needed a special 64bit version. I s it all on the same cd now? TIA18:17
MartinWIs it possible to upgrade using a live 7.10 cd? Or can you only upgrade with a alternate one?18:17
shinmenAnd I have local mirror of gutsy, so it's really a shame to waste bandwith.18:17
foxinessbeast_, google on this stage ur frined on first stage18:17
PovAddictshinmen: jigdo for desktop doesn't work18:17
mc44MartinW: you can only upgrade with the alternate18:17
adantehey folks, are the ubuntuforums alive? can't seem to get to them18:17
foxinessMartinW, no18:17
shinmenPovAddict: Why?18:17
dryrotjigdo is for masochists18:17
PovAddictshinmen: desktop has a single huge file, in order to work with live environment18:17
Nighthawk420so anyone tried it on an ati radeon x1300 yet? and how easy/well it works?18:17
Jake_001Does anyone know if there is a high contrast theme available for gnome?  I  see there is a high contrast inverse one but no high contrast itself.18:17
beast_foxiness: no i have tried many things already from google18:17
extrakicki might just wiat and see if i get a laptop b4 i bother with 7.10 then18:17
PovAddictshinmen: not individual .deb's18:17
extrakickhahah18:17
molnitza@tatters: what do you mean? change to modules folder an then execute the sript?18:17
Vletadante: yep18:17
boris_foxiness : i dont want it to boot entirely verbose, i want it to display ubuntu pic and text like  'Loading ALSA           OK'18:17
tech0007hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 45! mins! i need help!18:17
garufoxiness I just asked, if u dont want to answer, dont...it doesnt say that is the support channel for ubuntu gutsy, only says ubuntu, and then something about gutsy part18:17
extrakickim happy wit 7.04 though18:17
garuparty18:17
shinmenPovAddict: Oh, I see. thanks a lot.18:17
Completenutter2adante: yeah, they're working alright for me18:17
asac_the_3rdMmph: you have to download a amd64 specific cd18:17
dogwaterHi anyone know which source I need to enable for nvidia-glx-new?18:17
swillAmaranth: i see you are pretty busy with everything that is going on in here.  is there an FAQ or something that is specific to the 7.10 release that may help work out some of my issues?18:18
Cryoniqouff.. gutsy + ati9800pro = snail =(18:18
Mmphthanks asac_the_3rd  :D18:18
boris_foxiness : and Loading RAID     Failed    (for example18:18
mc44dogwater: it's in restricted18:18
Amaranth!upgrade | swill18:18
ubotuswill: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes18:18
PiciJake_001: I beleive there is, it just may not be set as a theme, you haev to pick the gtk theme manually in the customize options18:18
beast_foxiness: i was hoping someone here would be help me troubleshoot18:18
shinmendryrot: Don't be such a troll. Nothing to see here.18:18
adanteoh yep there we go cheers18:18
dogwatermc44: is it bad to enable that?18:18
frojndhoovie mc44 thanx18:18
Completenutter2adante: np :)18:18
dryrotshinmen: i think sane people should either download a iso or torrent a iso, i wouldnt make someone use jigdo18:18
mc44dogwater: no, it should be enabled by default anyway18:18
ghostcan't get 3d desktop cube to work :s18:18
ghost:(18:18
generalsnusPici: ive enabled everything now..but still: E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate18:18
foxinessbeast_, u must let other what u did n the past and not work18:18
cellofellowhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/134351/comments/2318:18
cellofellowhttp://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=86805318:18
cellofellowThe two previous links have stuff on how to get the sound working on my laptop. I'm not sure exactly how to do it. The former says to remove alsa-lib and alsa-utils. How do I do that without removing those things that depend on them? And what libraries do I need to compile this?18:18
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Completenutter2ghost: what doesn't work?18:18
PovAddictghost: #compiz-fusion, this channel is too busy18:18
Picigeneralsnus: We're talking about gutsy, right?18:19
Picigeneralsnus: if so, give me a minute18:19
generalsnusyup18:19
cellofellowghost: #ubuntu-effects18:19
Levielgeeeeez... help me with my network!  i've read the forums etc, i still dont get it.18:19
CryoniqAnyone that got ati9800pro working under gutsy, with open source radeon drivers, direct rendering and compiz?18:19
tattersmolnitza: I was saying that you could try compiling the driver you donwloaded again , you need to be in the Module folder in order to run make and sudo make install18:19
shinmendryrot: Do you really think _one_ command line is complicated? Jesus H Christ. they even have GUIs for it.18:19
Picigeneralsnus: sorry, the package is xlibs-static-dev18:19
adanteis there a general 7.10 upgrade thread that i can read to sound out how well this is working for people?18:19
Jake_001pici there seems just to be inverse ones.  how can i customise it to not be inverse18:19
swillAmaranth and ubotu: thanks guys, i will go from there.  if i come up with any solutions that i think will help in here i will come back and help out.  cheers...18:19
Levieluntil somebody helps me, i need to keep using windows, which i am tired of.18:19
denndashinmen: H?18:19
ghostcryoniq, i'm trying to do the same, i have x1650 pro18:20
denndashinmen: H == holy?18:20
dryrotshinmen: What does the H stand for?18:20
DigitalNinjaIt's Gutsy Gibbon Day!18:20
PiciJake_001: Some of the themes let you customize colors,18:20
tommygjoh yeah ;D18:20
Pici!offtopic  | dennda  dryrot18:20
ubotudennda  dryrot: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!18:20
shinmendennda: Quoting the drill instructor in full metal jacket.18:20
Nighthawk420DigitalNinja, lmao18:20
PiciJake_001: Otherwise you might be able to find one on gnome-look.org18:20
foxinessLeviel, its ur problem not our,go ahead18:20
molnitza@tatters: The modul folder of aircrack?18:20
denndaah ok shinmen. sorry Pici18:20
DigitalNinjaNighthawk42x: It's the geek in me18:20
Levielfoxiness: thanks, that was kind18:20
VletLeviel: you need to provide specific questions in order for us to give you answers18:20
Cryoniqghost: You also have glitches and it feels like syrup moving windows and scroll text? Mine worked flawlessly under Feisty18:20
nicholasLeviel: state your problem?18:20
Levieli don't KNOW which questions to ask!!!18:20
LucidFoxWhen will Hardy go out of pre-release freeze?18:21
DigitalNinjaIs there a party channel18:21
tech0007hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 50! mins! i need help!18:21
PovAddictLeviel: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html18:21
PovAddictDigitalNinja: see topic18:21
kritzstapfi want to use the moodbar in amarok, which packet do i need to use it for mp3-files? i already installed "moodbar"18:21
shinmenWell, gotta go. I hope to see everybody present in their local Gutsy party. thanks a lot to everybody involved.18:21
Baikonurwhat was the D ubuntu?18:21
Baikonuri mean, before edgy18:21
foxinessDigitalNinja, see the Topic18:21
HairulfrLeviel: Well your f***** then, aren't you. Also try #philosophy18:21
nicholasLeviel: do you have a little icon on the top with a computer screen or somesuch? click on it?18:21
generalsnusPici: ok.. after this i still get some Make errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41092/18:21
Levieltell me what you need to know, and i can try to find out...18:21
tommygjhmm is it possible to increase the resolution further than the "resolution-adjuster" does?18:21
LevielPovAddict: i'll check that out18:21
DShepherd!party | DigitalNinja18:21
ubotuDigitalNinja: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Gutsy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties18:21
RvGaTe^liveHey, i wanted to try out the new shiny ubuntu.... installed it without any problems using the live cd... but whenever i boot... i get the following message all the time: "[   xxxxx] ata3.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40), and it keeps giving me that message... i cant do anything, no console... how do i fix this?18:21
aaron87quick question, I've installed an ATI Radeon 9250 video card, and my computer came with an on-board intel video card, why is it that I cant use the ATI card as a second monitor?18:21
donvinzkhi, is it possible to download gutsy iso via bittorrent and use it as a source for upgrade ?18:21
Terrasquetommygj: probably, by changing the screen information18:21
Sp0tUbHow to make a key for ""Evoluion" Mail?18:22
PovAddictdonvinzk: yes, download alternate18:22
Paddy_EIREtommygj, yes it is18:22
joshwaOK, so I just installed Gutsy on this machine, but I wasn' t sure whether to make the swap space logical or primary. I made it logical - which is better?18:22
tattersmolnitza: the Module folder in the rt driver package you downloaded when following the  tutorial you posted18:22
Paddy_EIRE!fixres | tommygj18:22
ubotutommygj: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto18:22
airstrikewhat's the best way to go about upgrading to the new distro?18:22
CryoniqWhich one of these cards are better? ATI9800Pro vs Nvidia Geforce620018:22
tommygjokey, so I have to edit a configuration files?18:22
tommygjokey thx18:22
Picigeneralsnus: If ./configure didnt complain about anything else, then I dont know. sorry.18:22
Vletairstrike: sudo update-manager -d18:22
wadohi everybody, could you tell me a good program for HDD surface test?18:22
HairulfrLeviel: Well, you could state your problem18:22
PiciCryoniq: ##hardware18:22
airstrikeCryoniq, check out benchmarks at tomshardware.com18:22
MmphCryoniq,  go for the series 7 or 8 nvidia18:22
airstrikeCryoniq, and nowadays you can easily buy a better card18:22
LevielHairulfr: i have, several times - as much as i understand it18:23
LevielHairulfr: my network isn't working18:23
adanteanybody use emacs here?18:23
cellofellowjoshwa: you have a limit of 4 primary or extended partitions on one PC hard drive. You can have as many as you want with logicals inside extendeds.18:23
CryoniqI am asking because I have the nvidia in another box. Thinking if moving that one over to this one will save me some hours trying to resolve this ati mayhem18:23
adantei am having trouble with console emacs just doing... nothing when i try to run it18:23
PovAddictadante: #emacs18:23
HairulfrLeviel: what kind of network is it?18:23
LevielHairulfr: umm, i'm running a network cable to a hub (at home), and from there to the ADSL router18:23
molnitza@tatters: that i have did. But I get only Errors18:23
HairulfrLeviel: 'Card18:23
VletLeviel: Is it wireless, wired, modem?18:23
adantePovAddict: heh good idea18:23
jshrivergreetings18:24
LevielVlet: it's not wireless... i suppose it's wired18:24
joshwacellofellow: I made my root partition primary and my home partition primary and my swap logical. my previous setup had my swap space as a primary also...I just don't know which is preferred...18:24
jshriverhow long till the mirrors are up with Gibbin?18:24
HairulfrLeviel: What kind of computer do you have, laptop, desktop?18:24
jshrivergetting 16k on a T1 line lol18:24
Leviellaptop, toshiba18:24
Picijshriver: they should be up18:24
cellofellowjoshwa: neither, I think, except for the amount limit.18:24
sparr_I am having trouble with my network connection.  All indications (ifconfig, link lights, etc) are that it is working fine, but I cannot actually get any network traffic to work.  dhclient sends out requests and gets nothing back.  ping tells me the network is unreachable if I don't have the interface configured, and when I manually configure it I get a weird situation where the 2nd/3rd/4th of each 4 packets are Destination Host Unreachable, and 18:24
and1im only getting 40k18:25
Levieli checked earlier, i think it detects my network card, but not sure18:25
Terrasquejshriver: ive heard good rumors about torrent speed18:25
and1:\18:25
Picisparr_: try disabling ipv6 if you dont need it.18:25
joshwacellofellow: so it's going to use my swap space when memory is low no matter which I choose?18:25
Pici!ipv6 > sparr_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:25
cellofellowjoshwa: yep.18:25
jshriverTerrasque: aye but I'm doing a system update not a ISO download18:25
tech0007hi! have a problem while installing gutsy. after the restart, it brings up a blank screen w/ a bouncing Hz? box. when i go to console, i only see 'Setting up encryption on volume hda5_crypt....', it just hang there and its been there for 55! mins! i need help!18:25
joshwaTHANK YOU18:25
LevielHairulfr: i can tell you what it said, but i can't get onto ubuntu without shutting down windows, so i need some quidance18:25
jshrivercan you do system updates over torrent?!18:25
Picijshriver: not yet.18:25
thingfishthere are good mirrors out there - I just got it at average 79018:25
jshrivernice18:25
LevielHairulfr: it had two "network devices" - a "loopback interface" and an "ethernet interface"18:25
Terrasquejshriver: you could download the iso and then do an update from that one18:25
dryrotare the actual .deb files somewhere on the ubuntu install live cd ?18:25
SNyHey, I have problems with the xorg mga driver in gutsy.18:25
PovAddictjshriver: you could download alternate CD over torrent and use it as an update source18:25
bulmersparr: you're using wired connections?18:26
VletLeviel: Well, if it doesn't then you'll have to find out what model of network card you have, and search for info on getting it working in ubuntu, if it DOES detect it, then it's just soemthing not right with yout settings18:26
PovAddictdryrot: no18:26
sparr_Pici: I did an "ifconfig eth0 del [my ipv6 addr]", will try your way next18:26
dryrotTerrasque: how do i do that?18:26
jshrivergood point will give that a shot18:26
LevielVlet: how do i check that18:26
sparr_bulmer: yes18:26
Pici!mirrors > thingfish (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:26
Jake_001NICK jake18:26
jshriversecond question, why do some packages have -nox at the end?18:26
aaron87>quick question, I've installed an ATI Radeon 9250 video card, and my computer came with an on-board intel video card, why is it that I cant use the ATI card as a second monitor?18:26
PovAddictdryrot: I think the squashfs file has it as if it was installed18:26
and1can i download an iso and use it as a source with out having to burn it to disk?18:26
generalsnusPici: i redid all the steps after i downloaded all you said..and it installed without any problem  but when i do nvclock command.. i dont get any gui for it..18:26
PovAddictdryrot: no .debs18:26
bulmersparr: do you know if the cable is good?18:26
PovAddictand1: yes if it is alternate18:26
Terrasquedryrot: if you insert it ubuntu should ask you to upgrade from it. if not, add cd to sources :)18:26
jshriveraaron87: the BIOS disables onboard when another is put in18:26
PovAddictand1: not desktop18:26
Picigeneralsnus: Is there a gui? I'm not familiar with that tool18:26
RvGaTe^liveanyone ?18:26
SNyLots of problem reports exist for edgy, haven't found any for gutsy yet.18:26
sparr_bulmer: it works elsewhere, and worked on this machine yesterday18:27
Hairulfraaron87: Uh, you wanna use both the intel and the ati at the same time??18:27
and1PovAddict: i would have to burn it to a disk?18:27
danielbwHas Gutsy fixed the problem with the wifi problems?18:27
SNyIs there a backport of the 1.9.100 mga driver available somewhere?18:27
aaron87yeah!18:27
Terrasqueand1: well, you could, actually.. But its more work than you'd want to do I think ;)18:27
rquinndoes anyone know if kubuntu gutsy has xgl and compiz fusion running by default out of the box?18:27
bulmersparr: do you know if the cable is good?  you verified this how?18:27
PovAddictand1: you could mount the .iso18:27
sparr_danielbw: technically wouldnt problems with problems be a good thing?18:27
and1im not lazy18:27
Picirquinn: no iirc.18:27
sparr_bulmer: it works with another machine18:27
danielbwI was using the beta version of gutsy gibbon and my ipw3495 was not working with it at all18:27
dryrotso after i mount the ubuntu alternate iso, how do i upgrade ?18:27
DShepherdrquinn, i doubt it. but you can ask in #kubuntu18:27
Pici!compiz-#kubuntu > rquinn18:27
rquinnok18:27
aaron87is it possible to use both ATI and on-board?18:27
rquinnthx18:27
akornwhat's the file name that has all the repositores in it??18:27
sparr_aaron87: depends on your motherboard, BIOS specifically.18:28
sparr_akorn: /etc/apt/sources.list18:28
aaron87Ive done it on windows.18:28
bulmersparr: which brand of nic card do you have?18:28
PovAddictakorn: sources.list?18:28
aaron87same machine18:28
lungtoysI'm trying to install a theme engine, and when i try and ./configure it18:28
akornthank you haha18:28
Terrasqueand1: mount the iso, copy out the deb files, and make a repository from them is one way. doing "dpkg -i *" and hope for the best is .. one other (not recommended)18:28
sparr_bulmer: onboard intel i think18:28
akorncan't beieve i forgot that18:28
Hairulfraaron87: I don't know, but I'm very sure you can't do that.18:28
Pici!enter18:28
tattersmolnitza: can you cd to the Module folder again and post what error u get with the make command dont try to build just yet18:28
sparr_aaron87: then yes18:28
akornsparr: thanks!18:28
and1O.O sounds fun but hard18:28
akornPovAddict: thanks!18:28
aaron87Hairfurl: thanks18:28
Hairulfraaron87: Unless one is AGP/PCI-E/PCI18:28
JuJuBeeIs there a way to set the perms on a directory so anything put into teh dir is owned by the owner of the dir?18:28
blublobluwhat's the difference between the DVD and CD?18:29
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:29
Hairulfraaron87: They can't run on same bus18:29
bulmersparr: can you pastebin your ifconfig -a or ip a ?18:29
PovAddictJuJuBee: chmod has a recursive switch18:29
RvGaTe^liveHey, i wanted to try out the new shiny ubuntu.... installed it without any problems using the live cd... but whenever i boot... i get the following message all the time: "[   xxxxx] ata3.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40), and it keeps giving me that message... i cant do anything, no console... how do i fix this?18:29
garuwhy can't I join ubuntu+1 channel?18:29
sparr_blubloblu: DVD has more packages on it.18:29
Levieli think my network card is a "Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC"?18:29
lungtoysWhen i try to ./configure a theme engine, i get this error: configure: error: GTK+-2.10 is required to compile18:29
aaron87the ATI card is AGP18:29
sparr_bulmer: i could if i had network connectivity...18:29
Hairulfraaron87: And they should run the same drivers,18:29
Picigaru: it redirects here, theres no use for it right now18:29
JuJuBeeI do not want to chmodl, I want it to happen automagically.18:29
TerrasqueRvGaTe^live: same on safe boot?18:29
bulmersparr: you have one now, you're on mirc..18:29
aaron87oh, okay!18:29
dogwateri like the jello windows :D18:29
Hairulfraaron87: Then the intel is probably agp as well18:29
bulmererr irc18:29
foxinessAdd: 1GB or 2GB of RAM, Current System : 256+256 laptop with 1.4Ghz centreno any recommended ?18:29
PovAddictJuJuBee: ahh... try ##linux?18:29
sparr_bulmer: yes, from another machine.18:29
JuJuBeeThanks18:29
lungtoysis there a GTK/gnome help?18:29
blubloblusparr_: useful ones? as in, should I bother with the extra 4GB?18:29
aaron87the intel is on-board18:30
ePaxIs tehere a difference between updating 7.04 to 7.10 or clean install 7.10?18:30
bulmersparr: then please, do copy, and pastebin,18:30
aaron87I'll just have to save up money for a better video card18:30
sparr_blubloblu: only if youre installing away from broadband.  if you have good internet you can just get the packages you need off the internet after the install18:30
Tomcat_ePax: Yes.18:30
sparr_bulmer: no.18:30
DShepherdePax, yes. one updates. one is a clean install. but all should end the same place18:30
Hairulfraaron87: Yes, but it still runs uses a bus18:30
Hairulfr*- Runs18:30
sgonzalezYikes! Big issue (for me at least :)... please help!! With the help of a friend, I found out that I was running the generic kernel on edubuntu 7.04, thus only seeing 3GB of my 6GB of RAM. So we installed the server kernel, ran updates, etc. On a server that we really weren't crashing on at all, we started crashing like crazy (2-3 times/day). I put the generic kernel back in, and we're back to functioning fine. Any thoughts?! I could really use some he18:30
sgonzalezlp here! Thanks.18:30
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jmwWhen I try to install with the gutsy live cd, the partition tool doesn't see any of the existing partitions, however they are all listed under "places"18:30
garuPici humn...I need some help on it...I'v intalled the ubuntu 7.10 candidate release today morning, and its just doing updates right now, how do I upgrade to the final version, and also, is it good to do that?18:30
lungtoysWhat's the difference between GTK themes, metacity themes, and are there compiz-fusion themes???18:30
akornDoes anybody know why i get this when i use update manager:   Could Not Download All Repository Indexes (and then there's a list of non-downloads including this): http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found18:30
TerrasqueePax: ideally, no. Practically, yes :p one big difference is that you will still have the old config files for your user18:31
aaron87yeah, but atleast I'll be able to use one card for two monitors?18:31
ninnemanacan anyone tell me how to play/burn .shn files?18:31
aaron87make things simple.18:31
Pici!final > garu (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:31
benanzowhere do I find what driver versions are provided in restricted-modules?  I want to know what version madwifi ships with Gutsy18:31
sparr_akorn: one of your non-standard repositories is offline18:31
Nookie^akorn: maybe that file doesnt exist anymore18:31
aaron87right now Im using the Intel on-board18:31
Hairulfraaron87: If you have two outputs, yes18:31
PMantisakorn: run    apt-get update18:31
Piciakorn: because that repo doesnt exist.18:31
aaron87hairulfr: yup18:31
RvGaTe^liveanyone? hello?18:32
akornhow do i figure out with repo it is so that i can remove it?18:32
aaron87I mean, the one I'll buy will have that18:32
genii!info madwifi gutsy| benanzo18:32
Piciakorn: its http://packages.freecontrib.org18:32
ubotubenanzo: Package madwifi does not exist in gutsy18:32
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f0rgeIf`um18:32
akornPici: thanks a lot :)18:32
f0rgeIf`anyone know how I can rotate the cube with compiz ?:x18:32
Nookie^To bad that they didnt implement automount ISO files like in MAC to be able to see them on desktop or in filemanager18:32
Terrasqueakorn: I am doing a wild guess that its the one in the error message :)18:32
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ePaxSo actually its kinda same thing. Just if I update to 7.10 some configs will remain from 7.04? But looking from security aspects its kinda same thing?18:32
akornPici: yea actually that's the thign...i can't find that under sources.list..?18:32
Piciakorn: can you pastebin your sources.list?18:33
akornhow do i pastebin?18:33
benanzogenii: thanks but it's provded with restricted-modules which doesn't state the individual versions of the drivers it includes18:33
akornPici: haha how do i pastebin?18:33
Pici!paste | akorn18:33
ubotuakorn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)18:33
TerrasqueePax: yes. Again, ideally. If you have 3rd party packages or in some cases special config of the system, things can go plink18:33
akorn~paste | akorn18:33
akorn?18:33
akorn!paste | akorn18:33
Piciakorn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org18:33
Vletf0rgeIf`: Do you have the advanced settings manager installed?18:33
ePaxTerrasque: Oki.18:33
akornahh okay haha18:33
DShepherdf0rgeIf`, install compizconfig-settings-manager. run ccsm and select the cube plugin Alt+ctrl+ left or right arrow should be nice18:34
aaron87thanks much! Congratulations to everyone on 7.10!18:34
Jimdbwhich version of compiz is being installed under 7.10?18:34
akornhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41093/18:34
akornPici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41093/18:34
aaron87I cant get dual monitors to work yet but, I'd rather use one than not use ubuntu at all!18:34
PovAddict15 seconds left for desktop download!18:34
wastedfluidhello.. just downloaded+installed the 7.10 cd.. and now my adept manager says I have a distro upgrade?18:34
Piciakorn: What version of Ubuntu are you running?18:35
akornPici: 7.0418:35
kritzstapfazureus closes right after showing the main window, whats wrong?18:35
DShepherdJimb, 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu118:35
geefinatoraaron87:  Unless you are magical you probably wont be getting it to work.  I couldn't  I just went back to feisty.18:35
Jimdbthank you.18:35
Vletkritzstapf: launch it from a terminal instead, and it should show some errors or something18:35
Terrasquekritzstapf: start it in the terminal and see if it gives any errors18:35
Atlantiztry left click and drag and see it works18:35
DShepherdJimdb, your welcome18:35
Piciakorn: Remove or comment out likes 5-918:35
and1sounds like gutsy isnt so great18:35
and1:\18:35
Piciakorn: lines rather18:35
akornPici: you're going to kill me i thin the repos are at the top of the list and Ctrl F didn't find it haha :|18:35
Vletaaron87: What type of vid card do you have?18:36
wastedfluidyeah, it's confusing me.. i just installed the 7.10 cd download from this morning, and it says I have a distro upgrade.18:36
aaron87geefinator: both cards work, and I'm able to display on each of them... just not the same time18:36
Urigellerwhere can I find the error-logs of ACPI in Ubuntu (suspend/hibernate since upgrade broken, sort of..)?18:36
TopoMortohi people:) is this the right place to ask about the upgrade of a ununtu server from Feisty to Gusty ?18:36
Crozar i have a problem on installing fresh install , the cd gives me I/O boot error ( Reboot ) , i get the main page where it asks to choose start install OEM install safe check cd for defects and memory test18:36
BonzodogPovAddict: yes, adept can see the repos have the new release waiting - it's up to you, either upgrade over the net, or clean install using the CD18:36
VletTopoMorto: yes18:36
aaron87Vlet: ATI 9250 and onboard Intel on a Dell :-(18:36
PiciUrigeller: /var/log/dmesg18:36
geefinatoraaron87:  Ah you are running two cards.  I have a dual head ati.  I got them to clone, but could not for the life of me get it to stretch.18:36
and1TopoMorto: system,admin,update manager18:37
PovAddictBonzodog: huh?18:37
Vletaaron87: ooh... nevermind - I dunoh :)18:37
akornPici: thanks a lot for the patience haha18:37
aaron87hahahaha18:37
jmwwhat does the installer use for manual partition editing? parted?18:37
PovAddictBonzodog: wrong person?18:37
DShepherdCrozar, I think you need to burn another cd18:37
aaron87I'll post in the forums. Im a noob18:37
aaron87hahaha18:37
BonzodogPovAddict: you can upgrade to gutsy over the internet18:37
CrozarDShepherd: i bunred and lowest speed18:37
adanteuh so18:37
PovAddictBonzodog: did I ask??18:37
Azzkikrim upgrading through the package manager at this moment18:37
DShepherdCrozar, ok. bad burn maybe. try another..18:37
CrozarDShepherd: and my K3B says md5sum is checked fully i even compared to the original same thing d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c18:37
Vletaaron87: I can be done... keep searching and trying18:37
Bonzodogsorry18:38
Bonzodogwrong person18:38
Vletaaron87: I mean, IT can be done18:38
aaron87thanks Vlet18:38
nemo_workhey folks.  I'm on a machine with a shortage of free drive space.  I was wondering how long ubuntu retains packages.18:38
PiciCrozar: Try the alternate CD18:38
DShepherdCrozar, i suspect something is wrong with cd burn18:38
Crozaractually pici knows about this laptop cd hardware something to do with a bug i dunno what but i have reported it18:38
TopoMortoVlet: i'm upgrading a server, so "sudo do-release-upgrade"..... respone no new release aviable...18:38
UrigellerPici: nothing else? I've taken a look at dmesg and it didn't provide me the infos I was searching for..18:38
PovAddictnemo_work: sudo apt-get clean18:38
torkall the mirrors are clogged. :(18:38
geefinatorI think it is rather ironic that dual monitors was suppose to be *easy* in 7.10 and as far as I can tell it is not at all.18:38
aaron87Vlet: I'll keep looking18:38
giorgo1hallo das mounten zu nfs- scheint nicht mehr zu funktionieren. Weis jemand warum? Ich bekomme immer ein time out. nfs-common und portmap sind installiert18:38
nemo_workPovAddict: isn't that just for uninstalling?18:38
sparr_Pici: blacklist ipv6 did not help18:38
Bonzodogwastedfluid: yes, adept can see the repos have the new release waiting - it's up to you, either upgrade over the net, or clean install using the CD18:38
PiciCrozar: I can't possibly remember every bug that I've spoken to people about18:38
* N3bunel saluta18:38
Jo3hi, I just installed VLC, and im trying to find it within the root partition, to direct mozilla to always use it for a certain file type, how would I find VLC's location? Thanks18:38
nemo_workI was wondering about caching of .debs - does clean handle that too?18:38
CrozarDShepherd: the problem is other computers can read it and my start up reads it and even windows but ubuntu beta cant lol18:38
PovAddictnemo_work: clean doesn't uninstall anything18:38
Pici!de | giorgo118:38
ubotugiorgo1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:38
CrytorDo I have to reinstall my complete ubuntu installation when installing 7.10 ??18:38
kritzstapfVlet, Terrasque: it fails loading azupdater :/18:38
nemo_workPovAddict: ah. 'k.18:38
PovAddictnemo_work: see the help if in doubt18:39
DShepherdCrozar, oh.18:39
TerrasqueTopoMorto: start up your favorite editor and hack away at /etc/apt/sources.list18:39
nemo_workaight18:39
PovAddictnemo_work: apt-get --help18:39
VletTopoMorto: Do you have a gui on the server? I've heard that simply using apt to do the upgrade is not a good thing... the upgrade-manager tool does more than just apt alone will18:39
Crozarwell i might remove this cd drive and buy a DVD R , i wish to know something that will be capable for ubuntu before getting it18:39
avsa242Have a strange one: Network activity *extremely* latent/slow in X (i.e. many dropped packets/long rtt's), yet in a vc is slick as snot. broadcom 4311v1, ndiswrapper 1.39 and 1.45 (2.6.20-15 leftover feisty kernel in gutsy, 2.6.22-14 also in gutsy-not really a viable option - something wrong with intel drm module/xserver)18:39
PovAddictagh, can't get the .torrent18:39
jimbojwi installed sun's java 1.5, and just removed it - now I have no java, what's the name of the java package that comes with Ubuntu? is it blackdown?18:39
TopoMortoTerrasque: subsitute feisty with gusty?18:39
Bonzodogjimbojw: yes18:40
akornAnybody know how to disable tooltips when you hover over icons in a panel?18:40
giorgo1hello a mount to nfs is not working anymore allways I receive a time out. nfs-common and protmap are installed. Can someone help?18:40
darkdevilc'è qualche italiano nel canale?18:40
jimbojwthanks Bonzodog18:40
Jovaroafter upgrading to gutsy I get a black screen and nothing works, does someone have an idea on this?18:40
TerrasqueTopoMorto: yes, and run an update after, see if anything complains18:40
pike_!alternatives | jimbojw might help18:40
ubotujimbojw might help: To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.18:40
TopoMortoVlet: im' not using a gui on this server :))18:40
sparr_bulmer: http://rafb.net/p/wTJ0DB53.html18:40
Skelet0nif i had probs with 7.04, should i get the alternate 7.10 cd? and 32bit or 64bit?18:40
slayermanhi everyone18:40
Pici!fr | darkdevil18:40
ubotudarkdevil: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:40
BonzodogJovaro: it could be your graphics card?18:40
CrytorDo I have to reinstall my complete ubuntu installation when installing 7.10 ??18:40
pike_Crytor: no18:40
jimbojwthanks pike_18:40
pike_!update | Crytor18:40
ubotuCrytor: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes18:40
PiciCrytor: no, follow the upgrade instructions18:40
DanaGWow, I just got one of those NVIDIA lockups for 30 seconds.18:40
akornSkelet0n: there shoudl be a lot of fixes for problems in 7.1018:40
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fiXXXerMe1Could I use something like dd to backup my entire server and then reinstall it (going from hardware raid to software raid) ?18:41
JovaroBonzodog, it worked fine with Feisty.. it is an Nvidia 7600 GS18:41
CrozarDShepherd: my laptop on feisty when i insert any cd i can read , when i write i can read my written data later on , but after i updated its a mess , i cant read my written data but i can still write and after writing when putting back  same cd thats written it thinks its  an empty cd lol , never mind i thought its a bug error from beta gutsy thats why i want to install fresh install ,and the problem when inserting cd it gives me I/O error be18:41
Crozarfore that the cd tries to read the system freezes for 4 minutes then i get that error to reboot18:41
VletTopoMorto: yeah, I've heard (from Pici) that simply updating your sources and running apt-get dist-upgrade may cause problems18:41
RantingHuman!ubuntu18:41
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com18:41
VletTopoMorto: but this is all hear-say18:41
RantingHuman!gutsy18:41
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents18:41
RantingHuman!torrents18:41
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!18:41
CrytorPici: ok, thanks18:41
Skelet0nso i should get normal then?18:41
Pici!msgthebot | RantingHuman18:41
bulmersparr: when you type dhclient eth0  what responses are you getting?18:41
ubotuRantingHuman: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...18:41
Skelet0nand 32 or 64?18:41
BonzodogJovaro: have the drivers been re-installed after upgrade?18:41
PovAddictSkelet0n: is your computer 32 or 64?18:41
TerrasqueVlet: it has worked fine for earlier releases, at least18:41
DShepherd7 hours from my ugrade to be finished. I think its time to download the alternate cd and upgrade from that18:41
Bonzodogfrom restricted18:41
monkey_instincthow do i do an upgrade from the cd installation?18:41
pike_Skelet0n: use 32 unless you have a compelling reason to use 64bit18:42
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PovAddictmonkey_instinct: do you have alternate CD?18:42
lotiaanyone using the compiz and emerald manager applets instead of the desktop effects control panel?18:42
Skelet0nok thanks18:42
JovaroBonzodog, I am not sure, should I try to re-install the nvidia-glx-new package?18:42
Skelet0nand i should bure at 4x rite?18:42
PovAddictmonkey_instinct: or desktop?18:42
TopoMortoim tryong manual update so :)))18:42
VletTerrasque: I have a gui-less server that eventually I might like to install... I'll just cross my fingers as well :)18:42
pavsmy md5 sum is 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0 is that right? :)18:42
Crozarshould i download another copy because maybe netherland mirror had a problem then18:42
BonzodogJovaro: yes, try that18:42
RantingHumanPici: Was just trying get a link to the torrent18:42
TopoMorto*tryng18:42
sladokgostivar18:42
monkey_instinctPovAddict: I don't really know what that mean?18:42
PovAddictpavs: for what iso?18:42
Crozarpavs: what kind of md5sum is that lo18:42
sparr_bulmer: what i usually see when the network is out.  3 lines of IPXXXX stuff, then progressively slower DHCPREQUEST and DHCPANNOUNCE (?) attempts, with no responses18:42
adantehi folks, i need to clean up some space in my /boot, is it safe to delete the  vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic files?18:42
VletRantingHuman: http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso.torrent18:42
PovAddictmonkey_instinct: there is desktop, alternate, and server CDs18:42
pavsdvd iso :)18:43
monkey_instinctPovAddict: I have the desktop installation cd of Gusty18:43
RantingHumanVlet, thx18:43
PovAddictyou can't upgrade from desktop cd18:43
Crytor Linux ules18:43
Crytorrules18:43
PovAddictafaik18:43
giorgo1no one has an idea?18:43
monkey_instinctThen how?18:43
PovAddictwell, can't use it as an apt source...18:43
pike_adante: if you arent booting it yes.  uname -a in term to check but you can also remove it in synaptic cleanly18:43
Crozaris the torrent download good to go?18:43
RantingHumanVlet, isn't that the RC?18:43
TerrasqueVlet: ive done from dapper to feisty on my server, no problem :) (and that box have seen a lot of abus.. ehm testing)18:43
Crozari will redownload and retry hope it works18:43
Crozarcya's18:43
VletRantingHuman: ooh! oops18:43
monkey_instinctPovAddict: I have to download the alternate version?18:43
knofihi18:43
RantingHumanVlet, nvm, got it :)18:43
bulmersparr:  i suspect your cable is bad, it is not communicating to the router, or the port itself..look for hints of led status18:43
adantepike_: oh okay, thanks18:44
Vspike_Anyone know how much has changed between RC and final? I have an RC alternative CD and was thinking of upgrading to that, then updating online to save downloading (and loading up the servers)18:44
CrozarPovAddict: alternate version is for what btw?18:44
balor!torrent18:44
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html18:44
adantepike_: i'll leave it to things smarter than me (synaptic) then :P18:44
PiciVspike_: not much, I suspect thats safe18:44
brandonI just tried to do the upgrade from Feisty Server to Gutsy Server. It says "No new release". What do I do?18:44
knofihow can i turn off my computer by pressing ctrl+alt+del?18:44
CrozarVspike_: get torrent and download by torrent that wont load the servers18:44
Vletbrandon: run: sudo update-manager -d18:44
PovAddict4k seeds 5.4k peers18:44
brandonVlet this is Server, not Desktop18:44
pike_knofi: alt-ctrl-backspace will restart and take you to login then you can click shutdown i guess18:44
Vspike_Crozar: true, but I only get about 40-50k a second, so still keen to download the min possible18:45
knofipike_, thats not what i want to do...18:45
pike_knofi: not youre question though ;-p18:45
MartinWknofi: System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts18:45
shmoolikipodhello18:45
sparr_bulmer: LEDs are normal.  solid link, intermittently blinking activity.18:45
shmoolikipodi can't connect to the internet18:45
sparr_bulmer: on the router and the PC18:45
shmoolikipodwith the new ubuntu18:45
Skelet0nand i should burn at 4x rite?18:45
knofii do speak of  tty1 to 618:45
shmoolikipodhow can i configure my network ?18:45
brandonexit18:46
adac2hi! I installed the original java from sun over apt. Now how do I set the JAVA_HOME variable?18:46
knofinormally i get an reboot but i want to launch /sbin/halt18:46
knofiold version: edit the /etc/inittab18:46
Skelet0ni should burn at 4x rite?18:46
knofibut theres no inittab any more18:46
sparr_I want to upgrade from pre-release gutsy to release gutsy using the gutsy CD.  how?18:46
MartinWknofi: Though lock screen is the closest shortcut to edit.18:47
ebirtaidfn'Skelet0n: yes18:47
JovaroBonzodog, that didn't do the trick, I tried to use driver = "nv" and "VESA" in xorg.conf as well but black then as well18:47
RvGaTe^liveHey, i wanted to try out the new shiny ubuntu.... installed it without any problems using the live cd... but whenever i boot... i get the following message all the time: "[   xxxxx] ata3.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40), and it keeps giving me that message... i cant do anything, no console... how do i fix this?18:47
gsprHi. I ran an upgrade of Feisty to Gutsy using the prescribed method for Kubuntu. At the end of the update process, at the part where obsolete packages are removed during the cleanup, the updater started hogging more and more memory, going beyond 90%. After a while, I noticed it gave the message "update-manager crashing..." and then X hung and I had to reboot. Gutsy came up fine, but adept still reports a new version being available. How do I fix 18:47
bulmersparr  can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces ?18:47
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sbucatinosparr_:  i thik you use synaptic and fetch update then maybe there is : new version18:47
Cryoniq_ghost: any luck yet? :)18:47
sbucatinosparr_: not sure18:47
sparr_bulmer: i would really rather not, it was a pain in the ass to transcript 'ip a'18:47
sparr_sbucatino: im using the CD, not the internet18:48
nicholasRvGaTe^live: might be a kernel/chipset problem. google the error?18:48
knofiwell, MartinW i know how to turn off my computer from the graphical environment...18:48
bulmersparr: okay, then i cant help you anymore..i guess badly18:48
Crozarok i hope it will work18:48
apecathmm, i just did something with the compiz thing, i got the windows to line up on the desktop in thumbnails. i just don't know i did it? can anyone enlighten me?18:48
knofibut i want it to turn off on the console by pressing ctrl+alt+del18:48
Crozarlet me try again18:48
sparr_bulmer: im going to try upgrading to gutsy if i can get the cd and upgrade from that18:48
bulmersparr good luck18:48
sam_am i alone in not being able to upgrade to gutsy18:49
sam_?18:49
knofiapecat, thats easy... just enable active corners18:49
sam_im getting a gzip error every time i try the update18:49
sdrowkcabhello18:50
knofiwell i think i have to wait a week or two until it is much more quiet in here^^18:50
DShepherd1563 and counting..18:50
nicholassam_: bad repository?18:50
jimbojwknofi: it's not always this busy? :)18:50
sam_irish ubuntu repository?18:50
sdrowkcabwhy can't i boot after updating gutsy?18:50
Terrasquejimbojw: actually now i can read what people write. Its quieter than normal :)18:51
sparr_is there a PPC iso for gutsy?18:51
nicholassam_: whats the error message?18:51
tattersgutsy alternative you can encrypt hard drive they  call it EFS which also is name of windows technology do acronyms count when it comes to copyright??/18:51
knofiJimbojw, afaik it isnt18:51
PovAddictsparr_: I think Ubuntu has never had PPC18:51
sam_2 secs im trying it again so i can c&p18:51
nosrednaekimI think we need a little elbow room in here!18:51
aardvark4For reasons unknown to me, the update to gutsy failed during the package installations.  it said "Could not install upgrades.  The upgrade aborts now.  Your system could be in an unusable state.  A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a)."  It seems only a partial upgrade has occurred, then.  Is this salvageable, or should I just install cleanly from the cd/dvd and then reinstall all of the software?18:51
Terrasquetatters: wild guess : Encrypted File System18:51
sparr_tatters: since you don't know the difference in copyright and trademark, you should probably just ignore the subject.18:51
sam_Failed to fetch http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)18:51
jimbojwdespite the huge continuous wave of posts, both questions I've asked today have been answered - so i have to give high marks to the chan regulars18:51
Flats•sdrowkcab• whats the error or problem?18:51
sparr_PovAddict: I think you are wrong, since I gave out PPC Ubuntu 6.x CDs for christma18:52
sdrowkcabah18:52
sdrowkcabit shows the ubuntu logo and thats it18:52
tatterssparr_: hence the Q18:52
Borzohello, why is the network method recommended for upgrade? can't an upgrade use some of the files from a CD and some that are missing from the repos?18:52
bulmerwhat is it that people are after by upgrading to gutsy?18:52
TerrasquePovAddict: ubuntu had ppc :) I even have a cd here to prove it18:52
sparr_bulmer: working network after ubuntu+1 broke it  :)18:52
dooglusbulmer: nothing special, I don't think.  just having 'the latest' I guess18:52
DShepherdBorzo, and alternate cd can be used. yes18:52
Cryoniq_wish this dang ati driver and screen config crap would end very soon... =(18:52
p512owhen upgrading from feisty to gutsy via alternate cd, do i have to brun the iso or can i just mount it via loopback?18:53
mobodois there an easy way to grow the /boot partition? I have root right afterward, so it shouldn't be a problem, but the partition editor won't let me modify the /boot partition (it shows it as locked)18:53
sam_is there still hassle with ati drivers in gutsy?!18:53
Flats•sdrowkcab• what happens if you try ctrl+alt+backspace?18:53
TunaTombulmer: I upgraded because I wanted to test the ticless kernel18:53
FlatsI think thats it18:53
BorzoDShepherd: - so when the installer encounters a package that is in need of upgrading but it's not on the CD, will it look in the repos automatically?18:53
kom0dorHey everyone18:53
Terrasquemobodo: because it is in use now. Unmount it, or boot with live cd18:53
Cryoniq_sam no kidding.. =(18:53
sdrowkcabsome times it says it failed to mount the file system18:53
sam_damn it18:53
DShepherdp512o, i think you can mount it. it shoudn;t matter18:53
mobodoTerrasque: ok, I'll try to unmount it18:53
sparr_TunaTom: ive been using the new kernel in ubuntu+1 for a bit now, i think it really helps with gaming18:53
sdrowkcaband my only solution is to reinstall ubuntu with the cd18:54
bulmerokay ..18:54
kom0dorJust noticed that at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames, Edgy Efts description was "Fire up the crackpipes! (?!)" Is this vandalism?18:54
DShepherdBorzo, as far as i know yes18:54
getBoahey fellas, how do i know whats the fastest repository server ?18:54
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Flats•sdrowkcab• that would definately cause it not to boot18:54
Rodyacan anybody point me to a tutorial for configuring a wireless NIC via the cli?18:54
sparr_kom0dor its a wiki, look at the revisions, should be obvious18:54
dryrotwhat's wrong with crack cocaine ?18:54
sdrowkcabit happened twice18:54
p512othanks DShepherd ! First time I'm upgrading.. So I hope the alternate cd won't be needed immediately on (re-)boot :)18:54
PovAddictgetBoa: that's the holy grail around here18:54
mobodoI don't think I can unmount /boot :-/18:54
mobodoguess I'll download a livecd18:54
sdrowkcabboth times that i updated and restarted that happened18:54
TunaTomsparr_: Well, I couldn't feel much of a difference yet on gameless workloads.18:54
DShepherdp512o, :-) I hope so too18:54
sdrowkcab(with the beta)18:54
kom0dorguifications for gaim + #ubuntu in irc are killing meh18:54
eclecticusif I want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu and I have two 80 GB SATA HDDs, and one 80 GB IDE HDD how do i set it up.. right now it's not working correctly...i keep getting error 21, and boot disk failure blabla.. something along those lines.. im not sure what im doing anymore18:54
Flats•sdrowkcab• I'm sorry I may have missed was this an upgrade or fresh install?18:54
dvtorlesswhat's this trackerd/tracker-extract in 7.10 and why is it using all my cpu time (load 3+)?18:55
dryrotRodya: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid ACCESSPOINTNAME ; sudo dhclient eth118:55
Flatsoops sorry18:55
Cryoniq_My all so fine ATI9800pro config in feisty with DRI is not working so well in gutsy anymore.. when I scroll text, move window its is slow and if scrolling down on a webpage it wont stop scrolling untill 10 seconds later if not careful lol18:55
DShepherdkom0dor, turn it off18:55
Rodyadryrot: i'll try that thanks18:55
nicholassam_: go into system administration and use synaptic. turn off universe as repo18:55
BorzoDShepherd: thanks i have a desktop and notebook for upgrading and i thought it doesn't make sense to overload the servers by getting the same thing twice ( i don't have apt-proxy installed )18:55
sdrowkcabthe fresh install of gutsy beta was no problem18:55
p512oDShepherd: lol.. we'll see! I'll report back.. that iso torrent is so much faster than upgrading via update-manager :D18:55
TornadoHi, i'm installed ubuntu 7.10 I have windows XP installed and I want to format the whole drive thus getting rid of XP. Using the Live CD, i'm at the partioner screen should I choose "Guided - use entire disk" to accomplish this??????????18:55
DShepherdBorzo, ah ok kool18:55
sam_nicholas: sweet ill try it18:55
sdrowkcabbut when i update and restart it fails to mount file system18:55
Flats•sdrowkcab• Its a little out of my league now18:55
sdrowkcaboh18:55
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DShepherdp512o, yeah i know. i tried upgrading via the net.. not kool!. download the alternate now18:56
nicholasTornado: bingo18:56
sdrowkcabshould i try updating since it was relesased today?18:56
nosrednaekimTornado: yes18:56
FlatsI thought maybe it was an X issue or something to that effect18:56
JovaroAfter upgrading to gutsy I only get a black screen, where can I look for errors?18:56
TornadoOk, thanks18:56
TerrasqueTornado: correct. Make sure you have backup of everything you want to keep on the disk :)18:56
DShepherddownloading*18:56
Puppy_what is a good estimate on how long it will take to upgrade?18:56
garuone question, I was on the release candidate, and now I did a sudo apt-get update and a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but I'm now trying to install the xserver-xgl, and its asking me for the release candidate cd.can someone help?18:56
hyper_b0leparty18:56
pppoe_dudeJovaro, black screen with a cursor?18:56
nicholasJovaro: horror. search reported bugs18:56
CryoniqI am quite clueless what to do now to fix this.. hmm..18:56
Jovarowithout cursor18:56
pppoe_dudeJovaro, i mean command-line cursor18:56
DShepherdPuppy_, it all depends on your internet connection.. and the speed of your machine18:57
RichWI need help with the trident driver. I have a old laptop with a Trident Cyber 9525. I get a fuzzy strip near the bottom on 24 bit mode and in 16bit its not so bad. In 24bit mode, The fuzzy strip goes over any windows open and in 16bit mode it stays in background. Another problem is video's play slow or not at all (only sound)  in 16bit but fine in 24bit.  I am looking for someone to help me fix this, I do think it might be a problem with the xorg driver itse18:57
RichWlf though.18:57
pppoe_dudeJovaro, or is it also without a command line cursor?18:57
Jovarowithout anything18:57
desierhi, i've deleted all windows & linux partitions and now i'm having the grub error on boot.18:57
tronyx #ubuntuforums-beginners18:57
* N3bunel brb18:57
JovaroI can't switch to anything either18:57
pppoe_dudeJovaro, what happens when you try a tty?18:57
emethey18:57
Jovaropppoe_dude,, nothing18:57
Puppy_DShephered: I have DSL. How long do you think it would take to download this first day?18:57
apecatknofi: i can't find a setting with that name in the advanced desktop effects dialog18:57
nicholasJovaro: what does it say during boot?18:58
pppoe_dudeJovaro, ok, perhaps this could be a kernel issue, i would try booting from the old kernel (press esc at grub screen) and see if you can boot into it18:58
emetI just downloaded Ubuntu 4.10 and having problems with my sound card, anyone can help?18:58
PovAddictemet: that's old18:58
p512oDShepherd: Yes, would be nice if that torrent/iso option would be announced more prominent on the ubuntu-wiki.. happy downloading then! :) about 50% to go for me still.18:58
PovAddict:P18:58
sparr_emet: download 7.10 :)18:58
SomeoneMarcushello people, I have a stupid problem with terminal font.18:58
SomeoneMarcusI would like to have smaller font than default one (outside of X),18:58
SomeoneMarcusbut no boot options seems to work,18:58
SomeoneMarcusI've tried with:18:58
SomeoneMarcusvga=791 and 79518:58
SomeoneMarcusvideo=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr:3 vga=0x31A 0x31B18:58
dogwateranyone know how to set the hostname in kickstart?18:58
SomeoneMarcusafter my kernel in menu.lst,18:58
FlatsWell since 7.10 has been released, is there a next version available for testing?18:58
SomeoneMarcusmy graphics card is nvidia 7600 gt,18:58
emetoooops18:58
emet:P18:58
SomeoneMarcusand my screen is 1280x102418:58
Terrasque!enter18:58
pppoe_dudeJovaro, otherwise, check your /var/log/syslog for any errors18:58
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:58
sparr_SomeoneMarcus: try vga=ask18:58
Jovaroi'll try to boot to the old kernel18:58
emetFlats, nope not yet18:58
Jovarook will do!18:58
Nookie^!ati18:58
apecatknofi: and i had it working just now... just have no idea how i triggered it18:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:58
SomeoneMarcussparr_ ok, thanks18:58
lucasare there known problems with installing ubuntu inside qemu ? I can boot the dapper CD fine, but not the feisty or gutsy ISOs18:58
DShepherdPuppy_, well I recommended downloading the alternate cd and upgrading from that... that could take worse case 2 hours.. maybe18:58
musikgoatFlats: Hardy Herron will be next, but its not in dev yet18:58
sparr_SomeoneMarcus: also, the program SVGATextMode might be a better option for you18:59
nosrednaekimlucas: use virtualbox18:59
DShepherdPuppy_, and upgrading another 30-40 mins maybe...18:59
Pirate_Hunterhi im installing gutsy right now, how do i make gutsy use the existing swap partition that ive got already?18:59
FlatsGotta love the names18:59
mobodocan I get an ubuntu iso using bittorrent?18:59
emetFlats, typically it takes a few weeks after a release18:59
lucasnosrednaekim: it doesn't work in qemu?18:59
nightswimmobodo: yes18:59
SeigramI have a Pentium Core 2 Duo... which iso do I want to use?18:59
DShepherdPuppy_, i dont know how good an estimate that is though18:59
CarlFKlucas: real cd or image?18:59
pppoe_dudePirate_Hunter, it will use that by default18:59
nosrednaekimlucas: qemu is finicky.18:59
lucasCarlFK: .iso file18:59
Puppy_DShephered: ok thanks!18:59
Terrasquemobodo: yes18:59
Kaeporadoes gutsu have ati drivers?18:59
pavs8hr 45 minutes remaining .....damn18:59
titunhow do i extract a rar file?18:59
nosrednaekimKaepora: yeah18:59
sparr_titun: unrar18:59
dryrottitun: unrar x filename.rar18:59
PovAddictrar sux18:59
DShepherdPuppy_, your welcome18:59
Mmphany gusty users here? was just wondering what version of blender was in the apt repositories , is it 2.45? TIA :D19:00
nightswimpackages.ubuntu.com19:00
Pirate_Hunterpppoe_dude: are you sure cause i created that for Feisty im doing a clean install not upgrade19:00
dryrotthis is the gutsy channel now isnt it?19:00
FlatsAre you able to update just the kernel? Or do you need to update the whole "Ubuntu" package?19:00
pppoe_dudePirate_Hunter, swap partitions are formatted by default when you reinstall19:00
stray77dryrot, yes19:00
pavsthis channel was much more full when we had fiesty19:00
SeigramI have a Pentium Core 2 Duo... which iso do I want to use? When I went to the dl page, 64bit AMD and Intel computers is an option but then the file says amd64.iso -- So whih to I want?19:01
Pirate_Hunterpppoe_dude: I know that but what i said i still got fesity but i want gutsy to use the same swap would that be ok?19:01
pppoe_dudePirate_Hunter, you should really have only one swap partition, and ubuntu will use that anyway no matter which original ubuntu you created it from19:01
dogwaterhrm. kickseed is a pretty lame hostname :D19:01
Jovaropppoe_dude, i see this error in syslog: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X-error - Startar om :019:01
HyperCityisit normal that when i open top i get 2 users?i'm the onlyone using this box19:01
Terrasquemobodo: http://ftp.vectranet.pl/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent19:01
drbrain8does it mean gutsy is going "mainstream" ?19:01
pppoe_dudePirate_Hunter, as long as you don't hibernate19:01
dryrotall right i wanna upgrade, i have a iso of gutsy alternate, what do i do now?19:01
PovAddictSeigram: is it a 64-bit intel CPU?19:01
mobodothanks19:01
stray77Seigram, get the amd6419:01
Seigramyes19:01
Seigramthanks!19:01
CarlFKlucas: hmm, can't find any isos.  hate to do this, but you might want to ask in #qemu :)19:01
Mmphyea amd rocks19:01
pppoe_dudePirate_Hunter, why would you have two ubuntu diostros running on the same computer?19:01
Terrasquepolish servers are really underestimated when it comes to downloading from ;)19:01
Flatsneone using the 915resolution package or is that a different channel?19:02
madrazrhi all19:02
Pirate_Hunterpppoe_dude: what happens if i ever wheer to do and why shouldnt i do it "even nknowing i have no use for it"19:02
TABASCOHi19:02
stray77well i got 7.10 installed and compiz working. yay!19:02
pavsaccording to distrowatch pslinuxos is more popular than ubuntu.19:02
DShepherdstray77, great!19:02
madrazrIs there any way by which I can download the correctness of the GUTSY iso image downloaded19:02
MmphI do 2 linux installs, 1 for a stable, and another for a testing version, so I can play with the new stuff :D19:02
CryoniqHow did one check again which driver is in use for GFX card?19:02
pppoe_dudeJovaro, sounds like a GDM/X issue. i would google the error. but did you computer boot from old kernel?19:02
mobodoseems like "http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/" is down?19:02
Pirate_Hunterpppoe_dude: since gutsy is new i see no point of upgrading my current distro (feisty) ill wait for a while and see how gutsy works before i start moving my files to it19:03
TABASCOJust a quick question: Is it possible to install the documentation files of other languages in Ubuntu?19:03
Jovaronot yet, will do now19:03
titundryrot: oh i need to apt-get unrar first :)19:03
DShepherdmadrazr, you want to check the correctness of the iso you downloaded?19:03
Terrasquemobodo: not down. it answers.. sometimes.. its just overworked ;)19:03
madrazryup19:03
mobodohah19:03
madrazrDShepherd: There was some problem in the download19:03
ompaul!md5 | madrazr19:03
john_b594a0503bd7582d685c545328ff09fe19:03
ubotumadrazr: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:03
pppoe_dudePirate_Hunter, ok. then just make sure you install them on seprate root partitions19:03
stray77mobodo, the torrent tracker is up and running just fine19:03
HyperCityisit normal that when i open top i get 2 users?i'm the onlyone using this box19:03
pppoe_dudePirate_Hunter, and as long as you don't hibernate your computer, they can share the swap19:03
CryoniqWhich driver is best to use in gutsy these days? The open source or ATI/AMD's own?19:03
Mmphanyone know where I get the package list for gusty?19:04
sam_ok that worked. one question. my wireless is kind of unpredictable. what can happen if it's interrupted while dl'ing and installing packages?19:04
beast_sound for my dv6500 did not work out of the box, so i googled it and followed the guide at the bottom of http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502335. now my sound card is not recognized at all. any help?19:04
PovAddictJohn_:what's that md5 for?19:04
Terrasquemobodo: if you have dht running on your torrent program and a few torrents already up, it should go smoothly even without the tracker19:04
ompaulHyperCity, most likley you are seeing you and you or you and root19:04
pppoe_dudeMmph, packages.ubuntu.com19:04
Mmphthanks pppoe_dude  :D19:04
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DJ-TumbleweedAll - I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10 from 7.04 and following the simple installation instructions on Ubuntu19:04
dany21hello19:04
stray77PovAddict, its for checking your iso to make sure its good b4 you burn it and maybe make a coaster19:04
fiXXXerMe2I'm installing ubuntu and it'19:04
aleks^#macedonia19:04
DJ-Tumbleweedonly my update manager doesn not tell me there is a new version available19:04
PovAddictI mean what ISO19:04
Pirate_Hunterpppoe_dude: ok will do so they are on different partitions but does gutsy pick up the current swap automatically and is the format jfs any goo compared to reserfs19:05
pppoe_dudealeks^, please do not advertise channels here19:05
DJ-Tumbleweedis there a way to upgrade to 7.10 from the command line?19:05
FlatsHow can I find out my KDE version?19:05
stray77.iso is a cd or dvd image19:05
Picipppoe_dude: he probably trying to join19:05
PovAddictstray77: ...19:05
fiXXXerMe2I'm installing ubuntu and it's asking "Is the system clock set to UTC?"  Does this mean "Do you want to use UTC?" or "Are you already using UTC?"?19:05
TABASCOmhm.. another try: Can I change the language of the implemented documentation in Ubuntu?19:05
nemo_workthe distro servers must be getting hammered19:05
HyperCityompaul: how can i see the users from comand line, even with sudo, miy laptop is behaving strangely19:05
nosrednaekimFlats: in any KDE app, click "about"19:05
PovAddictstray77: I asked john_ what iso that md5 was for19:05
nemo_workaveraging 8KiB/s19:05
PovAddictsince it doesn't match with any on my MD5SUMS19:05
ompaulHyperCity, you already said you could see it - who is useful as is w19:05
dryroti was able to torrent gutsy desktop and alternate iso really quickly19:05
BobSappfiXXXerMe2: I think its a reference to what the BIOS clock uses19:05
dany21i have a problem. i cannot get my conexant modem working on ubuntu 7.04. i searched for a specific dirver for ubuntu, but no results. how can i get my conexant modem working on ubuntu?19:06
DShepherdfiXXXerMe1, just go with the default19:06
BobSappfiXXXerMe2: Unfortunatley, I dont know what TZ my bios clock uses :(19:06
fiXXXerMe2Default of yes?  Should I make sure my bios is in utc then?19:06
madrazrDShepherd: I had a problem during download. I started the download using cURL, but it stopped after 94% but I could not resume, so used torrents to download the remaining part, so does this work, I want to verify19:06
Pirate_Hunterpppoe_dude: is jfs better than reseirfs or it is just a matter of choice19:06
DShepherdfiXXXerMe1, yes19:06
BobSappI dont even know what UTC is lol19:06
fiXXXerMe2ok19:06
erUSUL!dialup | dany2119:06
ubotudany21: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto19:06
fiXXXerMe2thank you19:06
sisseckhi, just finished installing 7.10 and playing around with the desktop effects. Anyone know why i cant select custom settings? there is a screenshot with the none, normal, extra and custom effects but i only get the 3 first ones19:06
PovAddictmadrazr: what iso is it?19:06
TABASCOWell, I'm going to try it later again.. see you..19:06
HyperCityompaul: i meen get the name of the users19:06
PovAddict!verify | madrazr19:06
ubotumadrazr: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:06
avsa242Anyone else with a Broadcom wifi (groan) ever had mostly dropped packets in X, but switch to a vc and have it work perfectly?19:07
dany21ok, thanks19:07
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LevielI checked, Ubuntu does detect my RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ NIC, but my network is not working.  the IP address seems suspect, but i'm not sure.  it's automatically configured (DHCP).  what settings do i need to change?19:07
DShepherdmadrazr, md5sum file.iso and compare the output to this page http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS19:07
madrazrPovAddict: its a CD ISO19:07
Terrasquemadrazr: if your torrent client says its right, its right. bittorrent uses hashes for data verification19:07
sparrwbulmer: it was a bad *switch*19:07
sparrwwtf19:07
NIKOLCEkako e19:07
DJ-TumbleweedDoes anyone know if there is a way to upgrade to 7.10 from 7.04 from the command line since my update manager doesn't give me a new distribution release is available?19:07
Charlottedobre19:08
YeTr2Is there a tool somewhere that will automatically update my machine to 7.10?19:08
ivanteranLeviel: please check that your router is working ok19:08
nosrednaekimDJ-Tumbleweed: are you on kubuntu?19:08
DJ-Tumbleweedplease private me19:08
adanteanybody here use mythtv?19:08
DJ-Tumbleweednope19:08
DJ-Tumbleweedubuntu 7.0419:08
ompaulHyperCity, as in which context - possible users or those logged in - remembering of course that listed users that might log in include many programs cat /etc/passwd or click on system Administration Users and poke about in there19:08
sparrwadante: i tried once, too confusing19:08
DShepherdmadrazr, md5sum is a command so run that in terminal.19:08
BlamaIs it faster to install 7.04 and then upgrade or to wait for this 7.1 to download? It is going to 20kb/s19:08
PiciDJ-Tumbleweed: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading follow the server upgrade instructions19:08
mc44DJ-Tumbleweed: update-manager -d19:08
CrazyMattI need help on first time install19:08
DJ-Tumbleweedokay19:08
madrazrDShepherd: md5 what is the parameter??19:08
DJ-Tumbleweedthanks19:08
PovAddictmadrazr: the filename of the iso19:08
TerrasqueBlama: from the rumors there the repositores are similary nuked19:08
Levielivanteran: i'm running from windows at the moment, so i need to shut down.  where do i check that?19:09
juri245anyone know how to disable the Add Bookmark dialog in firefox, so it just adds it?19:09
sparrwabout to dist-upgrade from gutsy to gutsy  :)19:09
juri245in about:config maybe19:09
DShepherdmadrazr, the full path to the iso image that you downloaded19:09
mllmI just installed 7.10 on inspiron 9100, trying to configure fglrx and also compiz fusion. However, the /etc/apt/sources.list file may be missing libraries, because I cant get libglitz, libglitz1-dev, libglitz1-xgl which are dependencies to xserver-xgl. Anyone have a complete sources.list I could use ?19:09
HyperCityompaul: i meen as loged users(thx anyway for the help)19:09
Amilohello19:09
MmphHoooray! Gusty has mame :D19:09
ompaulBlama, well if you do the 7.04 you then have to updated everything to 7.10 so I guess you loose a lot of time if you ahve to update after a downloaed19:09
madrazroh ok thanks19:09
ivanteranleviel: ok, it's a wired interface?19:09
dryrothow do i upgrade my dist from a dir of deb files ?19:09
ivanteranleviel: or a wireless?19:09
DShepherdsparr, good luck. hope it works19:09
Pirate_Huntercan someone tell me if jfs is stable and if it is better than reseirfs?19:09
Levielivanteran: no, wired19:09
Charlotteanyone try wine on gutsy???19:09
TerrasqueBlama: http://ftp.vectranet.pl/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent - torrent :)19:10
ompaulHyperCity, you might try to be clearer in your request, I said two commands already. "who" and "w"19:10
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Jordan_Umllm, Just enable universe19:10
sparrwWill there be a PPC Gutsy CD?19:10
Pirate_HunterCharlotte: not yet but wil do so19:10
ivanteranLeviel: have you tried setting up manually the ip of the network interface?19:10
madrazrDShepherd: PovAddict: the value returned by the command should match with what is given here??  http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS19:10
Charlotteme too19:10
madrazr???19:10
BlamaUgh, anyone have the 7.10 x64 Desktop Install Torrent? And also, I had this problem with 7.04 that I had to download the Alternate Install CD so I could run it due to XServer-Xorg not working right with my card, will I still have this problem?19:10
Charlottehow to u install it19:10
dogwateranyone here build systems using kickstart?19:10
Jordan_Usparrw, Yes, but it will not be commercially supported19:10
mllm...or know what repository has those, cuz I'm trying to download them one by one and it's a pain19:10
Pici!ppc > sparrw (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)19:10
CrazyMattI'm having trouble installing, is there someone I can private that might b able to help??19:10
PovAddictmadrazr: correct19:10
DShepherdsparr, i think so but not officially19:10
Jordan_Umllm, Again, universe has them19:10
sisseckam i the only one missing the custom settings in desktop effects? running 7.1019:11
Levielivanteran: yes, i did that when i first installed.  then i got "daemon setting" errors or something, and a completely messed-up system19:11
Pirate_Hunterim finding it hard to keep track of things on pidgin going to install gutsy than will be back here19:11
Pici!ccsm | sisseck19:11
ubotusisseck: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz19:11
mllmhow do i enable universe19:11
Pirate_Hunterbye ppl19:11
DShepherdmadrazr, it would match the one you downloaded19:11
blackaardvarkam i right in guessing im going to have to put in dpkg reconfig xorg-xserver for my ati card to work?19:11
Jordan_Umllm, System -> Preferences -> Software Sources19:11
Levielivanteran: i tried several times, several different ways - probably wrong ones, but yeah19:11
Jordan_Umllm, Make that administration :)19:11
DShepherdmadrazr, which of them did you download?19:11
madrazrDShepherd: PovAddict: Oh soooooooper thanks a lot it matched19:11
blackaardvarkits an awkward x60019:11
Kaeporaqwertyuiop19:11
sisseckthank19:11
sissecks19:11
ivanteranLeviel: are you upgrading or doing a fresh install? have you tried connecting to the net using the livecd?19:11
Charlottehey guys how do u install wine???19:11
madrazrDShepherd: ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso19:11
mllmI have only command line btw19:11
mllmfglrx crashes my laptop19:11
DShepherdmadrazr, kool. your welcome19:11
BlamaUgh, anyone have the 7.10 x64 Desktop Install Torrent? And also, I had this problem with 7.04 that I had to download the Alternate Install CD so I could run it due to XServer-Xorg not working right with my card, will I still have this problem?19:12
madrazrDShepherd: it matched, thanks a lot19:12
DShepherdmadrazr, never mind me. carry on! :-)19:12
DShepherdmadrazr, your welcome19:12
avsa242adante: yes19:12
Pici!torrents > Blama (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)19:12
Jordan_UCharlotte, Like any other linux application19:12
HyperCityompaul: seems that u were right i get 2 times my username, thx for u'r time19:12
stray77MD5sums for all the cd .iso's -> http://pastebin.com/m28d5be1d19:12
madrazrquit HAPPY GUTSY RELEASE DAY, LEAVING TO INSTALL GUTSY NOW19:12
Levielivanteran: no, it's still 7.0.4, it's never worked.  liveCD... no, i suppose i could19:12
adanteavsa242: any idea if the mythrename.pl script is in ap ackage somewhere i'm missing?19:12
Picimadrazr: Well, that failed miserably.19:12
Amilois it possible to use Remote Desktop from 7.10 to a Vista pc? I keep getting connection refused..19:12
comosicusi have ubuntu 7.04. i whant to make a partition and install windows on that partition...how do i do that?19:12
avsa242sec19:12
BobSappDid they fix nvidia in gutsy yet?19:13
BlamaThanks, I had this problem with 7.04 that I had to download the Alternate Install CD so I could run it due to XServer-Xorg not working right with my card, will I still have this problem?19:13
DShepherdPici, hehe19:13
Pio!torrents > Pio19:13
rskBobSapp: no... nvidia is broken in gutsy..19:13
stray77Vista and vnc dont work well together, google it19:13
cudaman73Pio: You're teh a jerk19:13
rskyou know it's released.19:13
BobSappok ill hold on for a while19:13
BobSappthanks19:13
Adhemaroh, this is a known problem? i get no splash on my 880019:13
Jordan_UBobSapp, Not much they can do, it's a problem with nvidia's driver19:13
nosrednaekimBlama: possibly not if you had a Santa Rosa or a Nvidia 8xxx19:13
ARJonesSo is there anybody here actually having a problem getting the cd iso image? Cause I have the iso on my box and will let a few people download it if they can't run bittorrent for some reason19:13
BobSappstray77: vista and rdp dont work well either :)19:13
dogwaterthere's absolutely nothing wrong with my nvidia card in gutsy19:13
ivanteranleviel: yes, try conecting to the net using the livecd because that particular model of realtek is completely supported19:13
PiciAmilo: Works for me here, make sure that you selected rdpv5 and not vnc (unless you are using that)19:13
BobSappstray77: I couldnt even rdp into xp from vista19:13
PovAddictARJones: there's enough mirrors19:14
PovAddictthe trick is using more than one19:14
Amiloso the Remote Desktop in Ubuntu is only for VNC?19:14
Blamanosrednaekim, I have an ATI x80019:14
adantehi, i'm trying to use update manager to upgrade, previously i tried this but didn't have enough space to boot, now when i run update-manager and click upgrade it locks up - or at least hasn't been responding for hte past 20m19:14
BobSappactually as it stands Ubuntu is more compatible than vista is with XP19:14
mllmok I'm back to graphical mode (enabled ati instead of fglrx in x.conf) now what19:14
CrazyMattwhen I select install (fresh install) before it goes to livecd I get an initramfs line.... thought one time it did go all the way into the op. system, I just didn't completely install that time19:14
DShepherd!partition | comosicus,19:14
ubotucomosicus,: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter19:14
erle-hi all, is there a way to run java as browser plugin in gutsy 64 bit?19:14
nosrednaekimBlama: ah.. well then IDK about it... an upgrade would probably be safest19:14
mllmhow do I enable universe ?19:14
erle-java 7 does not run19:14
PiciAmilo: no, theres a dropdown in the application for which protocol you are using, make sure its set to rdpv5 (or similar, I can't look at it right now)19:14
bmt2i have installed k3b and already i have an error telling me that "MP3 audio decoder plugin not found"19:14
PovAddictjava 7??19:14
BobSapp7?19:14
espereguanybody experience on how to upgrade to gutsy using APT-CACHER ???19:14
Pioerle-, you need to use blackdown java19:14
Jordan_Uadante, Any error?19:15
BobSapplol thats what I thought,19:15
stray77BobSapp, i got vnc working in vista but you cant install it in server mode, you must use user mode.19:15
blackaardvarkjava 7 doesnt exist19:15
DShepherd!repos | mllm19:15
ubotumllm: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource19:15
BobSappah19:15
erle-blackaardvark, it does19:15
adanteJordan_U: nah, the update manager has just frozen19:15
erle-but not final released19:15
bmt2where can i get the MAD MP3 decoding liberary as well as the K3B MAD MP3 decoder plugin19:15
bmt2 ?19:15
KilrooHas anyone else had their keyboard multimedia keys stop working when they upgraded to 7.10? Doesn't look like anyone in #xubuntu can help.19:15
CrazyMattnot getting much help here19:15
Pici!mp3 > | (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)19:15
erle-in ubuntu gutsy it is in the repositories19:15
blackaardvarkwell if it does who's using it?19:15
BobSappcurrent version is SE 6 use that19:15
Jordan_Umllm, Please check messages to you before you ask the same question over again ( I already gave you an answer )19:15
HairulfrHey all, I accidentally did something to my NTFS drive while trying to reinstall grub, now neither windows or linux will read it... :( Any ideas?19:15
avsa242adante: my guess would be the mythbackend package or libmyth-perl19:16
erle-blackaardvark, it is autamtically installed by ubuntu, if you open a page with a applet in firefox19:16
bmt2i am using irssi , how do i look at "private" messages ?19:16
DShepherdPici, i see you prefer to > for private message. Trying to reduce traffic?19:16
stray77neat, running video on a rotating cube with piii 600 and nvidia 5200. lol it actually works!19:16
PiciDShepherd: "Trying"19:16
blackaardvarkwierd, i've been using 1.6 for ages and it never gives me hassle19:16
levanderWhat's the best SVN browser in Feisty?19:16
DShepherdPichu0102, ok19:16
erle-blackaardvark, i have the 64 bit edition of gutsy - there is no mozilla plugin vor other java versions19:16
aaron87thanks guys! Have a great day!19:17
erle-i have java installed and it runs like it should, but there is no plugin19:17
MTecknologyanybody know what +1 is called?19:17
ralphoubuntu need to be split into catagories busy busy19:17
blackaardvarkohhhh does it work with eclipse etc?19:17
bmt2how do i read a private message on here19:17
PiciMTecknology: Hardy Heron, see !hardy19:17
bmt2i am using irssi19:17
humboltonvidia driver is conflicting with the x-failsave thingy! My nvidia config from feisty does not work anymore!19:17
kevinOwhere can i find a torrent for ubuntu server?19:17
humboltowhat can I do?19:17
erle-blackaardvark, java 6 is working, but not as plugin for firefox19:17
sam55In firefox, does anyone know how to get MathML fonts working?19:17
dryrotbmt2: control n19:17
erle-everything else is alright19:17
Picibmt2: alt-p alt-n to move through windows19:18
blackaardvarki getcha19:18
PovAddicterle-: you mean for applets?19:18
nosrednaekimMTecknology: Ignorant Ibus19:18
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Picibmt2: sorry, ctrl, not alt19:18
erle-PovAddict, yeah19:18
MTecknologyralpho, that's because #ubuntu+1 is being forwarded here19:18
blackaardvarkhow about flash in firefox on 64bit?19:18
nemo_workheh. download times fluctuate wildly from file to file19:18
humboltoit is impossible for me to get that going!19:18
erle-blackaardvark, it runs fine19:18
nemo_work"only 3 hours remaining! (downloading at 200KiB/s)"19:18
kevinOwhere are the torrents for gutsy server?19:18
nemo_work"only 22 hours remaining - next file"19:18
erle-it installed some 32 bit libs, but it runes fine19:18
blackaardvarkthank god im tired of patchy work arounds19:18
ARJoneswell shit thats kind of disappointing19:18
Pici!torrents > kevinO (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)19:18
humboltonot even when I lay hands on xorg.conf19:18
Luci3ni'm having problems with configuring the screen size it is always reverts back to 800x68019:18
ARJonesthe update killed my wireless19:18
Terrasquebmt2: also, alt+a for the last window there was any activity in. and alt and a number to jump to that window19:18
kevinOty Pici19:19
silentwow... this channel is surprisingly inactive... I'll give it a few more hours before it's unreadable19:19
cudaman73!torrents > cudaman7319:19
CryoniqLuci3n: I have that problem as well if I change driver for my ati card to ATI/AMD's own19:19
Terrasquesilent: its quieter now than it was earlier19:19
silentTerrasque, I see19:19
MeyvnI just accidentally did a "sudo rm -r /usr/share/mime", is there any way to undo the last bash command? Or if it's irreversible are those vital files?19:19
kl4mI wonder about gnash, how complete is it19:19
akulah_anybody knows how to install spca5xx on gutsy ?19:19
gsprnosrednaekim: What do you mean? I tried to run the upgrade again, but it just says I'm already at the latest version19:19
silentMeyvn, LOL!!!!!19:19
silentlinux newbs are newbs19:19
gsprnosrednaekim: oops, my bad19:19
Terrasquesilent: about an hour after release it took ~10 seconds for a line to move over the whole screen :D19:19
CryoniqLuci3n: and even if I change the screen defs and choose 1280 etc it will hate me and send me to config fallback.19:19
Luci3nCryoniq: have you found a way around it19:19
dogwateranyone know how to prevent ubuntu from naming itself 'kickseed' when installing via kickstart?19:19
nosrednaekimgspr: then donw't worry about it :)19:20
erle-blackaardvark, can you tell me where are the major differences between ubuntu and vanilla kernels?19:20
silentMeyvn, short version, no.19:20
CryoniqLuci3n: not yet..19:20
bmt2Terrasque: i only have one window open19:20
cudaman73dogwater: you can change the hostname yourself.19:20
humboltodoes anybody know how to get an nvidia card working? the X failsafe thing is freaking out!19:20
KNYthere's no way to more specifically configure compiz settings, is there?19:20
wckdkl0wnto convert to kubuntu in terminal its sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right? or is it kde-desktop?19:20
dogwatercudaman73: right, after the install sure; but our installs have to be completely hands off19:20
kl4msilent: please be polite. This is a support channel19:20
KNYhumboldt, mine worked find (7800 GS)19:20
Pici!ccsm > KNY (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)19:20
silentKNY, appearance options19:20
dryrotKNY: is there gnome-compiz ?19:20
Meyvnsilent: the I can't undo it part? Or the files are vital part?19:20
dogwater(thus the point of kickstart)19:20
Terrasquebmt2: in irssi you always have two if you're on a channel :) 1 for the server window, and 2 for the first channel19:20
silentkl4m, he's trying to reverse a rm... honestly19:20
Hazi keep on getting a "kernel panic - not syncing" error everytime i boot up the alternate installer for gutsy... any likely cause?19:20
CryoniqLuci3n: but I am starting to think in some way to copy the part from my working xorg.conf, change and then paste that part back in for the screen settings19:20
blackaardvarkthat i cannot19:20
arun_How's the upgrading going?19:21
blackaardvarkwhy?19:21
shapeshiftaProblems with gutsy: 1. compiz-fusion now stutters very often, ran perfectly on feisty. 2. on startup the backround is brown instead of black, as I configured. 3. in wine apps the fonts are messed up. 4. wine apps miss the little preview in the lower right corner, if they don't use the compiz wm and metacity decorator. 5. slower startup. Has anyone a solution to one or two of these problems?19:21
generalsnusim trying to compile a app called nvclock here.. it seems that it dosent find the files needed for a gtk version.. what should i get to make this work?19:21
mllmok cool it works now19:21
kl4msilent: Well it does work on Windows under certain conditions (recycle bin, system restore). How should he know19:21
DShepherdKNY, install compizconfig-settings-manager and run ccsm or go to appearance and select preferences19:21
generalsnusgtk dev  files or somthing?19:21
KNYDShepherd, got it, thanks19:21
Terrasquekl4m: now he knows :)19:22
blackaardvarki understand the meaning of a vanilla kernel but when it comes to studying the differences..... blankety blank19:22
Nighthawk420installing!!!  20 mins19:22
DShepherdKNY, no prob19:22
silentkl4m, it's del in windows, and same thing there19:22
mllmby the way, I just found that if you install ntfs-config you will get write support for the blasted ntfs filesystem! how cool is that19:22
skoldgeneralsnus: why don't you install it via aptitude?19:22
silentkl4m, but perhaps you are right, I'm an ass19:22
shapeshiftamllm: gz19:22
Picishapeshifta: 1) ask compiz issues in #compiz-fusion 2) the background issue is a known bug, 3) try installing msttcorefonts to fix your fonts issues19:22
dogwatermllm: actually write support is supposed to be enabled by default19:22
kl4mMeyvn: the files are pretty important because they make Ubuntu determine file types19:22
DShepherdmllm, good for you19:22
comosicusi whant to install windows......i have ubuntu 7.04 and i whant to run them bouth19:22
silentMeyvn, you may want to reinstall ubuntu19:22
shapeshiftaPici: Thanks a LOT19:22
arun_!dualboot19:22
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty19:22
Terrasquesilent, kl4m : actually, with ext2 its possible to undelete. With ext3... well.. its possible in some extreme cases19:22
erle-blackaardvark, the vanilla kernel is the kernel you get on kernel.org19:23
Blama3Anyone know why I am only downloading at 30kb/s from 170 seeders and 60 peers?19:23
Meyvnkl4m: hmm, crap :P19:23
generalsnusskold: the version from sppitude dont support fan control on 8800gtx..i need the cvs version19:23
silentTerrasque, he did a very major rm19:23
erle-i think there are some patches in the ubuntu kernel which change it19:23
humboldtKNY: Did you upgrade?19:23
blackaardvarkthe linux kernel19:23
erle-most distributions change the kernel19:23
floatingblama3 what client ?19:23
KNYhumboldt, clean install19:23
kl4mMeyvn: The can probably be reinstalled or taken from another machine19:23
blackaardvarki know what a kernel is19:23
DShepherdBlama3, hammered server maybe19:23
Luci3nCryoniq: have you got the restricted drivers working 'cos each time i enable them and modify the res they're disabled again19:23
silentkl4m, a reinstall would ensure file compatibility19:23
`Matiranyone here run a local apt mirror?19:23
skoldgeneralsnus: apt-get build-dep nvclock-gtk in terminal19:23
silentkl4m, I'd recommend it for a newbie19:23
ghosthey, can anyone tell me if you can migrate settings, or folders and files from windows after installing 7.10?19:23
KNY`Matir, my campus does, why?19:23
Meyvnkl4m: alright, thanks. I'll try those19:23
erle-i want to have the newest kernel, because there is a nice feature which is not supported for amd64 in the actual version of the kernel in ubuntu gutsy19:23
lunzi am unable to edit the blacklist file,error i dont have permission even i type command sudo -s as root?can anyone help,just upgrade to rc gutsy..19:24
`MatirKNY, I'm just trying to figure out how big they are19:24
Blama3How do I kick ghosts from this channe?19:24
KNY`Matir, can't help you there19:24
shapeshiftaPici: "E: Couldn't find package msttcorefont" I guess I'm doing something wrong19:24
humboldtKNY: would you be so kind to pastebin your xorg.conf somewhere for me please!19:24
silenterle-, the kernel doesnt get much newer than gutsy19:24
Terrasquesilent: well, as long as the data part of the disk is not overwritten.. of course, ext3 journaling does a mighty fine job at exactly that ;)19:24
CryoniqLuci3n: I tried that also and they do not enable for me either =(19:24
silenterle-, you can patch it yourself if you want19:24
Picishapeshifta: I think its msttcorefonts19:24
KNYhumboldt, sure thing; give me a second19:24
generalsnusskold: would i get nvclock beta 3 from that?19:24
blackaardvarkshouldnt there be a seperate channel for 64bit queries?19:24
kl4mMeyvn: If you absolutely cannot reinstall you can take them elsewhere (another UBUNTU please!, not a red hat or something). Best is reinstall19:24
silentTerrasque, exactly :P19:24
Charlotteanyone installed wine on gutsy????19:24
DShepherd Blama3 /ghost nick <password>. That's if you own the nick19:24
Hazi keep on getting a "kernel panic - not syncing" error everytime i boot up the alternate installer... any likely cause?19:24
PiciCharlotte: yes, many people19:24
alex_hey, i have a question. if i upgrade ubuntu 7.4 yo 7.10, do i lose everything? like data, configuration, etc.19:24
humboldtKNY: great, a true friend you are!19:24
CryoniqLuci3n: You upgraded from feisty as well?19:24
ejerCharlotte: yep19:24
Meyvnkl4m: alright, thanks for the help.19:24
Picialex_: no, your settings are saved.19:25
silentalex_, if the install fails, yes19:25
mllmok, so back to my original issue now that Xgl is installed... I picked up the latest ati bundle for linux, installed in gutsy. Ran aticonfig --initial, when X starts it's just a black screen. I remember with older version I had to install libstdc++6 but now it seems installed by default... anyone saw this before ?19:25
DShepherdalex_, nope19:25
skoldgeneralsnus: no,you get the packages needed to compile nvclock with gtk enabled19:25
Charlottecan u pls tell me how exactly, is there any how to fro gutsy?19:25
CryoniqLuci3n: that is, you didn't do a clean install?19:25
silentalex_, but you can always mount from live if the install fails and retrieve your files for a clean install19:25
PiciCharlotte: sudo apt-get install wine19:25
KNYhumboldt, I'll /msg you19:25
Luci3nCryoniq: yes using the update-manager -c19:25
kl4m!upgrade |  alex_19:25
ubotualex_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes19:25
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alex_oh ok, thank you19:25
silentCharlotte, go ahead and sudo apt-get install xwine too... its a nice interface19:25
humboldtKNY: as you wish19:25
jamilibah i downloaded corrupted image :\19:25
kl4malex_: follow the instructions there and you should be all right, a backup is preferable19:25
jamilitorrents ftw19:26
alex_kl4m: thanks a lot19:26
* DShepherd never knew about xwine19:26
silentDShepherd, it's a gooder19:26
mllmit's fglrx that's giving me problems...19:26
lunzi am unable to add rt73 to the blacklist file,error i dont have permission even i type command sudo -s as root?can anyone help?just upgrade to gutsy..19:26
DShepherdsilent, kool19:26
generalsnusskold: ok thanks.. downloading 50ish mb :P19:26
silentmllm, you, and everyone else19:26
Nighthawk420whoa now up to 30 mins on the install... was at 2019:26
hullonWas the system tray removed in gutsy?19:26
silentmllm, nvidia ftw19:26
CryoniqLuci3n: maybe there is a problem for us doing it that way together with our earlier config.. hmm.. I am about to start mess with the drivers etc.. rip out the open source driver and get the ati_amd one and do it the manual way in some way..19:26
Charlottewell im going to try to run bricscad19:26
Charlotteand i need wine19:26
blackaardvarkrt73?19:26
CryoniqLuci3n: which card you have btw?19:26
DShepherdhullon, i doubt it19:27
CrazyMattok, I need help, is there anyone that will answer me???19:27
Picimllm: install xgl-server19:27
Charlottewhat is the difference btw xwine and regular wine19:27
blackaardvarkoh dear that borked my windows install a while back19:27
silentwhen I get home tonight I'll spend a good few hours helping newbies19:27
hulloncant find it in add to panel...19:27
VletCrazyMatt: If someone has an answer to your question, yes19:27
silentCrazyMatt, what's your q?19:27
mllmyeah I have it on my pcs, but this laptop has ati unfortunatley19:27
comosicuschannel ubuntu from roumania19:27
Pici!ro | comosicus19:27
humboldtKNY: the problem seems to be, that I don't get any modelines in my xorg.conf19:27
ubotucomosicus: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro19:27
bXianyone familiar with xgl and ati cards? it just dies on me here19:27
Luci3nI'm not sure I'm going to have to open it up later even my monitor is not listed19:27
KNYhumboldt, weird. what card?19:27
wtigerkshello i need help19:27
mllmI need it for blender3d (and fuzion of course)19:27
ARJonesi dont get this. i can run compiz under pclinuxos, but i cant under ubuntu. says the composite extension is not available but I am running restricted ati drivers19:27
RantingHumanHow do I set up Ubuntu/Nvidia such that every game I run has vsync turned on (forced)?19:27
DShepherdhullon, notification area maybe?19:27
raper4ehabil_lincoln@hotmail.com19:27
ARJonesso it *should* be able to do everything19:27
ARJoneswhats the deal?19:28
skoldgeneralsnus: yeah for compiling gtk programs you neeed alot of things...19:28
silentmllm, make sure you address your comments by using a name... you can start typing the persons name and hit tab to complete19:28
Luci3nCryoniq: I'm not sure I'm going to have to open it up later even my monitor is not listed19:28
humboldtKNY: GeForce Go 6200/640019:28
hullonDShepherd: thanks alot :)19:28
neighborleewtigerks: please state the nature of your emergency19:28
KNYhumboldt, never used one of them19:28
DShepherdhullon, your welcome19:28
silentEVERYONE PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO PEOPLE IF THEY AREN'T QUESTIONS BY STARTING TO TYPE THEIR IRC NAMES AND HITTING TAB. YOU MAY HAVE TO TYPE MORE OF THE NAME IF THERE ARE SIMILAR NAMES IN THE CHANNEL.19:28
CryoniqbXi: I can recomend looking at the ubuntu forums. I am having trouble in gutsy with my ati 9800 pro that had direct rendering and open source drivers in feisty working very good19:28
humboldtKNY: When I remove xorg.conf completely I get the right resolution with nv.19:28
mllmSilent: Tab doesn't work on pidgin, but i'll put comments19:28
CrazyMattI'm a newb, I can admit it, I'm trying a fresh install of 7.10 and after I select install from the first menu (before I get to the LiveCD OS) I get BusyBox and (initramfs)19:28
lunzblackaardvark,it's a native driver for d-link wireless g-122 vC119:29
silentmllm, sudo apt-get install xchat19:29
wtigerksi have 7.10 and i can not get the my nvidia to enable19:29
bXiCryoniq: i got an x1950pro with the fglrx driver19:29
VletCrazyMatt: And it just hangs there? How long has it been like that?19:29
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pike_CrazyMatt: considered the alternate install cd?19:29
reconhuh. ubuntu+1 is forwarding to here.19:30
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Picirecon: correct19:30
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dblackaarvarkhrm can someone tell me if the wireless driver problem is fixed in gutsy? ive checked the forums and there doesnt seem to be anything on it there..19:30
CryoniqbXi: I however heard there will maybe come an update for ati drivers tomorrow..19:30
DShepherdrecon, cause currently there is no need for that room anymore19:30
CryoniqbXi: and aiglx supoort are coming in them as well19:30
Vletdblackaarvark: What problem in particular?19:31
lunzblackaardvark,it's a native driver for d-link wireless g-122 vC1 but it doesnt work, so i have add to the blacklist file but error,it says i dont have permission to save it even i did sudo -s?19:31
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PiciCryoniq: I highly doubt thats coming in an update any time soon19:31
reconDShepherd: probably right. it's not like anybody needs support for heroin at the moment.19:31
reconHERON.19:31
reconhardy heron.19:31
dbrewer_rjrwhat do i have to apt-get install so i can uncompress a gtar file?19:31
recon...that was really embarrasing.19:31
Charlotteis "sudo apt-det install wine" will install wine with dependency or without them?????19:31
mllmok it works thanks everyone19:31
CryoniqPici: i mean the ATI/AMD drivers. Their own.19:31
JC_Denton_Where's the compiz entry in the menu? (7.10)19:31
CrazyMatt<Vlet>: well "ASking for Cache data failed" 2 times and it "assumed drive cache: write through" wierd part is is that one time it went althe way to the OS but I had to set up a logical drive first so I didn't complete the install at that time, can't get back to that point19:31
dblackaarvarki had to jump through all manner of hoops to get my belkin card to work now with the proprietary driver not really working.19:31
skoldCharlotte: with19:32
Vletdbrewer_rjr: nothing. Just: tar -zxvf thefilename.tar.gz19:32
Charlottethanx19:32
PiciJC_Denton_: System>preferences>appearance>visual effects19:32
csabullgusty doesn't recognize my laptop19:32
RantingHumanHow do I set up Ubuntu/Nvidia such that every game I run has vsync turned on (forced)? Is Sync to V Blank the same as vsync?19:32
DShepherdJC_Denton_, System -- Preferences -- Appearances19:32
* Siropel disapointed with this release19:32
arun_why Siropel19:32
JC_Denton_Thanks guys... well hidden19:32
wtigerksthe restricted drivers seting in 710 are  not leting me to enable them19:32
dbrewer_rjrVlet: the file has a tgz extension19:32
Spee_DerGood afternoon folks.19:32
arun_hey Spee_Der19:32
KNYheh, I like how CCSM lets you configure transparency out to the thousandths place19:32
gsprIf I had a Feisty->Gutsy upgrade hang - how should I procede? The new system is bootable, and seems to be working perfectly, but adept manager still keeps talking about a new version of Ubuntu being available.19:33
Spee_DerHello arun.19:33
csabullcan somebody help me?19:33
KNY50.0057 is just too bright! good thing I can go to 50.0056!19:33
ScatterBrainWhen's it out?   When's it out?   When's it out?   <--Sorry, bad attempt at humor.19:33
JC_Denton_sniff.. desktop effects could not be loaded19:33
Cryoniqwtigerks: is there another way to enable them by configuring a config file or via shell?19:33
csabulllaptop-detect: We're not on a laptop (no relevant hint found)19:33
Spee_DerI'm just haning for now. Hard surgery on forehead this a.m. and now have splitting headache.19:33
VletRantingHuman: I think you can just put +vsync at the end of your modeline19:33
Siropelarun_: it boots slower, no video acceleration, gnome bugs19:33
ZombieHello.19:33
csabullIt's a Asus M6R19:34
RantingHumanVlet, err.. modeline?19:34
arun_Siropel: XV doesn't work in Gutsy??19:34
dbrewer_rjrVlet: that werked thanks19:34
Spee_DerMy other computer is doing online upgrade from Feisty Fawn v7.04 to Gutsy Gibbon v7.1019:34
lunzhow do i edit and save the blacklist file?i did type etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but i dont have permission to save it,can anyone help?19:34
ZombieWhere can I go to get Ubuntu Fiesty to Gutsy Upgrade media shipped to me?19:34
pike_Spee_Der: maybe its a blood clot19:34
Picilunz: use sudo19:34
wtigerksCryoniq i have no way of knowing that i am new at this19:34
Pici!shipit > Zombie (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)19:34
ScottASZombie: http://shipit.ubuntu.com/19:34
comosicushow do i do a hard partition on ubuntu 7.0419:34
Spee_DerHello pike. I hope not so. I think it is only from the surgery. Now it is trying to heal.19:34
gaurishlunz, use gksudo19:35
Siropelarun_: XV ?19:35
lunz_how do i edit and save the blacklist file?i did type etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but i dont have permission to save it even i type sudo -s,can anyone help?19:35
VletRantingHuman: Paste your xorg.conf to pastebin19:35
Vlet!pastebin | RantingHuman19:35
ubotuRantingHuman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)19:35
arun_Siropel: what do you mean by video acceleration?19:35
pike_lunz_: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist19:35
Picilunz: What are you using to try to edit it?19:35
taime1does gutsy have built-in support for broadcom wireless cards, or do we have to install them the old fashioned way?19:35
ejerlunz_ sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist19:35
Siropelarun_: i mean no compiz :)19:35
rdblackaavarkok im gonna wait a week and then upgrade. there doesnt seem to be a point in leaving it to chance19:36
NekoKun*laughs* Guys, I lost my pass... I rememver 9 of the 16 characters... does exist any tool to help me to find the 7 missing characters?19:36
Spee_DerI am wondering if the IPv6 server is down for Freenode ? Suddenly I can not connect using IPv6.19:36
PiciNekoKun: nope19:36
lunz_pici,wireless d-link rt7319:36
NekoKundamn... it was a good pass...19:36
tds5016any word back on stability of the ugrade to 7.10?19:36
Picilunz_: huh? What are you trying to edit the file with?19:36
pike_Spee_Der: im sure youre fine :) /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you like for general discussion19:36
VletNekoKun: You could boot into 'recovery' mode and reset it19:37
lunz_pici,wireless d-link rt73 because it doesnt work with my dwl-g122 vc1 usb wireless driver19:37
ejerNekoKun: you can try cracking it19:37
Spee_DerOkay Pike. Cheers.19:37
arun_has anyone got xv working with compiz enabled?19:37
NekoKunI want RECOVER it... it was a new pass... replacing the 12 char one...19:37
MTecknologyis vmware-server available for 7.10 yet19:37
MTecknology?19:37
Picilunz_: Nono, not what you are trying to blacklist, what are you using to modify the contents of the file? Gedit? pico? emacs? vi?19:37
lunz_Pici,adding blacklist rt73 so it doesnt use the driver19:37
tds5016anyone able to give me the heads up with updating to 7.10 if there are any issues?19:37
ejerNekoKun: look at johntheripper :L19:37
generalsnusAnyone knows how i make "nvclock"  to run fan at 100% everytime i start computer??19:37
elbacWhen I try to play sound out of my USB headset I get the following error from the sound control panel, audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert !audioreample ! gconfaudiosink: could not open resource for writing.  Anyone have any ideas?19:37
VletNekoKun: Why not just make up another 16 char pass?19:38
Rodyai am currently installing gutsy, and the installation program is sitting here saying "Configuring apt... 82%... Scanning the mirror..."19:38
noodles12Does anyone else get random slowdowns in gutsy? like everything lags like you ran out of RAM or something?19:38
Rodyaits been doing this awhile =/19:38
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davemlinux1no logout sound on 7.10, but from preferences plays ok , any fix or is this a bug?19:38
lunz_Pici,i just type /etc/modprobe.d/blaclist and the editor comes up..i dont know what kind of editor19:38
RantingHumanVlet, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41099/19:38
IpMooBetanoodles12:   no19:38
ejerRodya: it is going to be slow today, everyone is doing what you are doing19:38
pike_Rodya: not sure but given its first day of release the online repos might be pretty slow. getting hit hard19:39
wtigerksis there some one that know's ubuntu 7.1019:39
Rodyaok, that's what i thought ejer, but i thought i should make sure =)19:39
Jordan_UWhile doing an upgrade to Gutsy X has completely frozen and I can't even get to a tty on the local machine, I am ssh'd in now though, what should I do?19:39
joshjoshman, the repos are absolutely CRAWLING haha.19:39
matschoolhello19:39
VletRantingHuman: See on lines 80 through 93, there are your modelines19:39
KNYjoshjosh, use mirrors.rit.edu19:39
joshjoshwtigerks, what do you need?19:39
Picilunz_: You *need* to specify an editor, I suspect thats why its not working.19:39
VletRantingHuman: And they all have vsync on19:39
drbrain8hitting the repo right now19:39
mpetersenIs this release why I'm having apt problems with dapper?19:39
ejerJordan_U: restart gdm? you will lose upgrade process tho19:39
NekoKunVlet: cause I have 9 of it19:39
Picimpetersen: probably.19:39
arun_has anyone got xv working with compiz enabled?19:39
DShepherdRodya, you could try downloading the alternate cd and upgrade from that. Downloading via torrents seems to be much faster19:39
Jordan_Uejer, That is what I am afraid of19:40
ejerarun_: yes19:40
joshjoshKNY, I just tried to download something to see how slow it was. It's exciting that so many people are updating or downloading that it's putting that much of a strain.19:40
Mmphyou guys got slashdotted, the repos are going to be very slow for a little while, wonder how long it will be before Digg gets it on the front page.19:40
VletNekoKun: Well, have fun :)19:40
ScottASIs it possible to repair an Ubuntu Linux installation?19:40
wtigerksim trying to get me nvidia to work19:40
boubbinhow to use compiz with gutsy ?19:40
KNYjoshjosh, definitely19:40
TornadoI just installed 7.10, how do I tell if compiz fusion was automatically set up correctly??? Do I first need to enable the nVidia retricted drivers?19:40
mpetersenbah humbug.  I guess I'll try a different mirror.19:40
ejerJordan_U: no biggie really, you can restart it assuming your install is not hosed19:40
KNYboubbin, type !ccsm19:40
comosicusi whant to make a partition on hard what shoud i do19:40
arun_ejer: so the video bug with compiz is fixed?19:40
Jordan_Uboubbin, Boot and log in :)19:40
joshjoshslashdot, reddit, digg...it's amazing the severs are still up even haha19:40
goldinshello, I was wondering if I could make an AP out of any PC with a wifi card, or if I need a specific card19:40
boubbin!ccsm19:40
gaurishlunz_: try "gksudo gedit  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"19:40
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz19:40
jhozopen terminal.  type 'compiz --replace &'19:40
Vletboubbin: Control Panels >> Appearance >> Visual Effects19:40
joshjoshTornado, yes.19:40
Jordan_Uejer, I don't like making assumptions like that :)19:40
lunzPici,i dont think because of the editor,the error says i dont have a permission to save it..19:40
ScottASI can't boot into Ubuntu Linux 7.04 installed alongside openSUSE Linux 10.3 but I can't boot into it because it can't find its root partition.19:40
comosicuswhant to chat?19:41
ejerJordan_U: I know you have backups, so no big deal, just reinstall19:41
Tornadojoshjosh: K, thx19:41
roblinetrying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg gives me Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/medibuntu.sos-sts.com_repo_dists_edgy_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)19:41
Picicomosicus: #ubuntu-offtopic19:41
Cheprahello19:41
Jordan_Uejer, And Though I was able to successfully get an ssh session, bash is not starting :(19:41
comosicusreally?!!!!!!!!!!!119:41
unit3Anyone else having problems with openoffice after upgrading to gutsy?19:41
Chepraanyone has a torrent for gutsy? the website isnt responding for me :(19:41
pike_lunz: sudo isnt doing anything to the file. sudo just runs stuff with root priv so you still need to run the editor with root rights to save the file. just gksu gedit or something then navigate to the file19:41
roblineI'm on 7.04, so why is it looking for edgy repos?19:41
unit3Chepra: did you check on torrentz.com or similar?19:41
Jordan_Uejer, I thought it was just taking a long time, but this is far too long for Bash19:42
Chepraunit3: no19:42
Picilunz: I dont know whats going on then. I'm not even sure how you are seeing the file if you arent specifying an editor.19:42
PovAddictChepra: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/19:42
ejerhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent19:42
Journeymanwhere can you modify the effects in gusty19:42
Jordan_Urobline, Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?19:42
Journeymanor is only the 3 options avalible19:42
unit3Journeyman: you need the compiz control panel package19:42
Pici!ccsm | Journeyman19:42
ubotuJourneyman: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz19:42
Journeymanah19:42
unit3then it gives you the customize option19:42
ejerJourneyman: only 3 options unless you install compiz settings manager19:42
Jordan_UJourneyman, install compiz config settings manager19:42
Jordan_UJourneyman, ccsm19:42
roblineJordan_U, yep, one sec19:42
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humboltoAm I right or am I right, Xorg and displayconfig-gtk are not pulling their plug'n'play monitor information the same way?!19:43
chriswilliamsis there another repository of compiz fusion for gutsy?19:43
unit3humbolto: dunno, haven't tested that yet, what video chipset do you have?19:43
ChepraPovAddict: thanks :)19:43
`Matirchriswilliams, compiz is in by default on gutsy19:43
Jordan_Uejer, Bash not starting is not a good sign :(19:43
unit3chriswilliams: probably not yet, give it a week19:43
ejereven the torrents are slooowww19:43
humboltowhen I have no xorg.conf at all and start up Xorg, the resolution of my LCD is set right. But displayconfig-gtk is not detecting it!19:43
ejerJordan_U: nope :)19:43
ldradaOnly 1599 nicks? Bah, even my toilet IRC server has had more clients connecting.19:43
chriswilliamsunit3: thanks19:43
humboltounit3: nvidia19:43
DShepherdejer, yeah.... it is..19:44
Jordan_Uchriswilliams, Why would you want another repo for it?19:44
`Matirhumbolto, I've noticed that displayconfig-gtk has some issues19:44
eolo999What about next release name?19:44
Chepraand i need the alternate cd for my encrypted device?19:44
Picieolo999: Hardy Heron19:44
chriswilliamsJordan, I'm having problem's with the current one19:44
ejerHumungous Hamburger19:44
humboltounit3: displayconfig-gtk does not work for me neither with nv nor nvidia driver.19:44
ldradaeolo999: I don't know but I'll think it'll be called 8.something ;)19:44
roblineJordan_U, http://paste.plone.org/1739119:44
DShepherdeolo999, hardy heron19:44
mpetersenAre there any official APT (not ISO) mirrors in the US?19:44
eolo9998.0419:44
unit3humbolto: that's not good, lemme check if it works here, as I've got nv too.19:44
Picimpetersen: us.archive.ubuntu.com19:44
humbolto`Matir: you did. did you wirite it?19:44
CryoniqI upgraded from feisty with beryl today to gutsy.. I am wondering.. how do I mess with the compiz config, and better.. how do I start it?19:45
Vletmpetersen: Lots - In software sources, if you select 'other' as a source, you can browse them19:45
Pici!ccsm | Cryoniq19:45
ubotuCryoniq: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz19:45
ldradaCryoniq: Install the compiz package.19:45
mikeobeloh19:45
`Matirhumbolto, write displayconfig-gtk?  no19:45
mpetersenpick: besides that one...19:45
kritzstapfthe aspect ratio is not detected correctly by xine applications like totem-xine or kaffeine: http://cpegel.de/vlc-totem-xine.png - is there a way to fix this?19:45
pibe86hello, desktop efects does not work with my pc, i use ubuntu 7.10 fibal version, in ubuntu 7.04 it worked19:45
unit3humbolto: works fine here on my nv chipset, may be related to your specific graphics card19:45
alainei guys.. how can i install beryl in gutsy...19:45
unit3pibe86: what video card?19:45
humboltoI can't get my nvidia card to work at a resolution higher than 640x480 at all.19:45
unit3alain: beryl is now compiz, it's installed by default19:45
* N3bunel back19:45
mpetersenPici: besides that one, any others?19:46
unit3humbolto: sounds like a monitor pnp detection issue, can you put manual hsync and vsync into your xorg conf?19:46
wtigerksthis room is going to fast in this room i need some one to privit im me so i can get some help19:46
pibe86it is integrate, but in 7.04 i could work whit the desktop cube19:46
humboltounit3: sucks that thing. good by nvidia19:46
JC_Denton_:S where has /dev/hda6 gone19:46
Vlethumbolto: go to the 'Screens and Graphics' control panel in 'Administrative'19:46
alainbut i dont have the theme manager19:46
jhozsomeone should record what percent of the questions are about compiz today.19:46
unit3pibe86: it can here too, install ccms19:46
Jordan_Urobline, "deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free" "deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ edgy listen"19:46
doofy`alain, if you want the effects go to system preferences appearance, under the visual effects tab choose extra19:46
humboltoVlet: there I am19:46
unit3jhoz: someone should put "Install ccms!" in the topic. ;)19:46
Picimpetersen: I dont know any others off the top of my head.  You can check in System>Administration>Software Sources19:46
mikeobelo#wegotpot19:46
jhozseriously unit319:47
unit3I know. :)19:47
jhozthat would be a good idea19:47
Vlethumbolto: try picking a different monitor first that can support your resolution19:47
pibe86unit3: ok, i am going to do it and tell you19:47
Jordan_Urobline, Also, you do know that debian repositories are not necessarily compatible with Ubuntu right?19:47
student23j #217.17.45.14319:47
doofy`alain, also if you want the you can install compizconfig-settings-manager19:47
JC_Denton_after upgrading /dev/hda is nowhere to be seen. has this changed? perhaps to /dev/fb?19:47
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mpetersenPici: that would only work if I had a gui, but thanks...19:47
roblineJordan_U, yep, I had to install some of them for plone development.  Might be hosing something19:47
mikeobelojoin #wegotpot19:47
Picimpetersen: sorry :/19:47
humboltoVlet: no matter if I choose Plug'n'Play or an LCD Display with the right resolution, it wont show any res higher than 1024x768 if even that. I have 1280x768.19:47
ejerJC_Denton_: sd*19:47
roblineJordan_U, thanks, BTW, trying debs now19:48
unit3pibe86: package is called "compizconfig-settings-manager", once it's installed go to appearance control panel, and there'll be a "custom settings" option under "desktop effects"19:48
jhozJC_Denton_, sudo parted, then 'print all'.19:48
mpetersenanyone else having trouble with broken dapper release files?19:48
chriswilliamsis it possible to use dual monitor's but play a full screen game on only one screen?19:48
unit3chriswilliams: should be yeah, but it might depend on the game.19:48
Jordan_Urobline, What I meant was that you have lines there that should read "feisty" but instead have "edgy"19:48
alaini already have the ccsm19:48
Vletchriswilliams: yes, I have that set up with my nvidia card19:48
doofy`is there a commercial repo for gutsy yet?19:48
chriswilliamsunit3, do you know if nexuiz is alright?19:48
unit3chriswilliams: if your game understands xinerama, it should work fine.19:48
alainthe but the beryl is not here :((19:48
unit3nexuiz? wuzzat?19:49
Meltirhey ppl. i want to upgrade to gutsy, but dont use gnome (so i cant really follow the howto from ubuntu.com). my question is - will the debian way of changing sources.list and running apt-get dist-upgrade work as i expect it to ?19:49
roblineJordan_U, lemme peek19:49
chriswilliamsVlet, I have a ati card, with open source drivers19:49
Jordan_Ualain, Beryl is obsolete19:49
ejerMeltir: yes19:49
unit3Meltir: for the most part, yes19:49
JC_Denton_ejer, jhoz , thanks. sd = solid disk ?19:49
unit3Yeah, beryl got merged into compiz, check their page.19:49
shapeshiftaIt seems like sindce I upgraded to gutsy an hour ago my internet connection became unstable. I lost the connection 2 times already. I couldn't access the web with FF or opera, but the connection icon stayed "connected". Is there a known issue?19:49
Jordan_U!ops19:49
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici19:49
Vletchriswilliams: then I think you want to look into MergeFB19:49
swillafter i upgraded to 7.10 i saw something about being able to disable xgl in the little lightbulb thing at the top right.  i didnt pay attention to it, and now xgl is absolutely killing performance on my machine.  i need to disable xgl, how do i do that???19:49
Mavezhehe19:49
Meltirunit3: on which part can i expect trouble (if any) ?19:49
ejerJC_Denton_: PATA disks are handled by sd like scsi now19:49
jhozJC_Denton_: i think the s stands for secondary19:49
chriswilliamswith ati open driver's what would allow me to use dual screen and use compiz fusion?19:49
humboltoVlet: I have chosen a 1280x1024 Widescreen Monitor now. At least I could choose the right res now. We'll see in a second if it works.19:49
DerDritteI'm trying to upgrade to Gutsy and just asked myself if I can use an unpacked alternate cd?19:50
roblineJordan_U, should I edit that list and change "edgy" to "feisty"19:50
robline?19:50
linxuz3rk19:50
crdlbswill, just uninstall xserver-xgl19:50
humboltoDon't like the fact that suddenly we need to have modelines in our xorg.confs again!19:50
Mavezhaha19:50
ejerJC_Denton_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks19:50
TaurshazDoes the newest Ubuntu support my "ATi HD 2600 XT GDDR3 512 MB" graphics card?19:50
keitsiI installed the gutsy beta some weeks ago. I have updated all possible updates, so I'm using the exact same packages as final gutsy. Do I need to do something like "finalize" the update, or is the system already a pure final gutsy?19:50
linxuz3rhello crdlb19:50
Jordan_UDerDritte, You can, but what do you mean "unpacked" ?19:50
unit3Meltir: on previous releases I've tried doing just the dist-upgrade, and sometimes it gets confused about the order to install things, just doing dist upgrade a few more times until you run out of packages should do it. :)19:50
unit3keitsi: you're good. :)19:50
ejerkeitsi: u have gutsy19:50
keitsiunit3: allright.19:50
VletTaurshaz: That's probably a good question for google19:50
swillcrdlb that will not mess with my xorg stuff will it?  since xgl runs on top of xorg?19:50
doofy`Taurshaz, of course, but compositing wont work with the nonfree driver unless you use xgl19:50
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shapeshiftaIt seems like sindce I upgraded to gutsy an hour ago my internet connection became unstable. I lost the connection 2 times already. I couldn't access the web with FF or opera, but the connection icon stayed "connected". Is there a known issue?19:51
Jordan_Uunit3, That is why you use update-manager instead :)19:51
JC_Denton_ejer, thanks19:51
Meltirunit3, ejer: tanks guys :)19:51
student23uuuuu my Ubutu is upgrading at 45 kb/s .......;(19:51
DerDritteJordan_U: I actually dled the alternate CD for speed reasons and don't want to 'waste' a cd (since I'm running low).19:51
chriswilliams'MergedFB also limits 3D contexts to 2048x2048.', is that a problem?19:51
* Meltir gets downloading19:51
ThomsenHi,19:51
crdlbswill, right, then you'll just be using Xorg19:51
doofy`are the repos having trouble keeping up right now?19:51
rocketsAnybody know where I can get a gutsy dvd?i19:51
rocketsi cant find it19:51
TaurshazWish game developers would make more games Linux compatible :/19:51
swillcrdlb:  thanks...19:51
bXiargh19:51
lucalittleChe9019:51
DerDritteJordan_U: *dled over torrent that is.19:51
PovAddictdoofy`: guess19:52
JC_Denton_Whoo, thanks to the upgrade my mono app builds :S19:52
bXicompiz wont work :(19:52
pibe86unit3: i have install ccms , and it does not still work19:52
linxuz3rbXi: compiz is not working?19:52
lucaciao19:52
Jordan_UDerDritte, Just run the upgrade script on the CD then19:52
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jhoz!ccms | bXi19:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ccms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:52
santanderQ: i want to secure a network with restricted access, i'll be using a ubuntu 7.04 server with iptables as masq server. is there a way to limit the transfers of the local machines? so ex: a local machine can only download 5 MB/hour?19:52
ThomsenQuestion: Using gutsy with nvidia and compiz enabled: when playing video with mplayer, the video window is VERY wide and spans over several desktops. Anyone knows how to fix that?19:52
unit3pibe86: did you go to the appearance control panel and go to "custom" under desktop effects?19:52
Pirate_Hunter!themes19:52
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:52
lucaciao19:52
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jhoz!ccsm | bXi19:52
ubotubXi: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz19:52
lordcBit of a specific problem. Has anyone got more than one soundcard installed? And knows how to set one as default?19:52
bXilinxuz3r: xgl dies on me19:52
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Jordan_Usantander, Yes, through squid proxy is probably the easiest way19:53
euricohello. Just installed Gutsy Gibbon but don't have my CDROM device working :\19:53
aantnIs there a way to start up ubuntu without running bluez-utils?19:53
DerDritteJordan_U: So no problem if I just unpack the iso somewhere on my hdd and run the script then?19:53
bXijhoz: i already have those and that wont help xgl dying19:53
unit3aantn: yeah, disable it in your session19:53
PovAddictDerDritte: mount it, don't "unpack" it19:53
aantnunit3: I can't19:53
unit3aantn: why not?19:53
Jordan_Ulordc, "asoundconf list" "asoundconf set-default-card"19:53
santandertx Jordan_U, i'll look into squid :)19:53
lordcty19:53
aantnI can't login b/c my keyboard and mouse only work when its disabled19:53
jhozbXi: I have found that fxgl drivers work best with my nvidia setup19:53
DerDrittePovAddict: Sorry, noob here...19:54
Jordan_UDerDritte, I would mount it instead19:54
eTiger13in the latest gutsy (been using beta, and i think there was a kernel upgrade a couple days ago), i mapped my keyboards sleep button to lock the screen. this worked up until this last kernel. now it locks the screen and then hibernates or shuts down my computer. how can i get it to just lock the screen only again?19:54
aantncan I somehow boot into a cli?19:54
unit3aantn: ahhhh... login on console, go into .gnome2, edit session, and remove line for bluez19:54
bXijhoz: using ati here :/19:54
taime1are broadcom wireless cards now supported??19:54
PovAddictDerDritte: if you "unpack" it, you'll be using 600MB more of diskspace19:54
Journeymanis there a compiz manager that isn't a buggy piece of crap?19:54
badgerHaving problems installing Gutsy...went for a clean install from the LiveCD and it seems to copy everything over to my harddrive then freezes when "configuring ast" at 82% Any ideas?19:54
PovAddictmounting it you'll read from the .iso directly19:54
aantnunit3: how do I login on console?19:54
Jordan_Utaime1, If they are supported by the bcm43xx drivers then yes19:54
amrhello19:54
jhozbXi: I think ati's site has good linux drivers, have you updated them from there?19:54
DerDrittePovAddict: got that, just got now idea how to mount an iso (sorry).19:54
mpetersenAnyone, issues with dapper updates?  "apt-get update" -- "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg - Bad header line"19:54
eTiger13badger: did you let it run for awhile?19:54
aantnJourneyman: like fusion-icon or like cssm?19:54
mrjaww no more ubuntu+119:54
badgeryeah I left it for about 45 minutes19:55
unit3aantn: at graphical login manager, hit cntl-alt-f1, and it'll dump you to the text console, when you're done, use alt-leftarrow to get back to the graphical login.19:55
amrplz i want help to be able to maximize my laptop battery life19:55
taime1anyone know where the torrent for gutsy is? i bet its MUCH faster to get it that way19:55
Jordan_Utaime1, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices to see if your chipset is supported19:55
bXijhoz: i tried that as well but that failed19:55
CaBlGuY!NTFS19:55
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse19:55
Journeymancssm isn't in the repository19:55
bXii'll try now gutsy is stable tho19:55
pibe86unit3: it says  "desktop effects could not be enable"19:55
ARJonesso now that compiz is working wonderfully, is there a way to install the different compiz themes?19:55
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unit3Journeyman: it's called compizconfig-settings-manager19:55
PiciJourneyman: the package name is compizconfig-settings-manager19:55
aantnunit3: thanks19:55
unit3aantn: no prob :)19:55
eTiger13lol gutsy isnt stable yet. its labeled stable but it still has issues19:55
Journeymanah I installed gnome-compiz-manager and it sucked bad19:56
doofy`is there a repo for gutsy that has vmware server?19:56
unit3all OSes have issues, Gutsy is way more stable for me than feisty19:56
jhasseARJones, do you mean the compizconfig-settings-manager?19:56
Jordan_UI can ping my machine and I can ssh in but not get a shell, should I pull the plug?19:56
jhozbXi: sry then =/.  That worked for my laptops ati card so im not sure what else u can do.19:56
mrjtaime1, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/19:56
unit3eTiger13: if you're having problems, file a bug report.19:56
mpetersenunit3: how long have you been using it to make that statement?19:56
pibe86unit3: other suggest?19:56
taime1mrj thanks!19:56
Piciamr: webhttrack is the only thing I can think of19:56
eTiger13unit3: fiesty was way more stable and reliable then gutsy has been for me19:56
unit3mpetersen: a couple of weeks, and it's because it fixes lots of hardware bugs on my laptop.19:56
unit3YMMV19:56
dolvi:-)19:56
mrjdude gutsy just released19:56
bXijhoz: can you walk me trough installing those drivers perhaps?19:57
DerDrittePovAddict: reading the man brb :D19:57
eTiger13doofy: just install from source.19:57
bXii might've made a screwup somewhere19:57
unit3mrj: yes, but it's been available for install in various forms for months, I've been using it since it went beta.19:57
amrPici : what as longerbout that , will it make my laptop battery stay19:57
ARJonesjhasse: I can see where I can change the different settings etc, such as if i want wobbly windows, i'm talking about like actual themes, IE, change the window colors and whatnot. Beryl had the Crystal Theme Manager or something like that19:57
mpetersenok, so no one knows anything about the dapper repo being hosed?  is there an lts channel I should be asking this in?19:57
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jhozbXi: at the moment I cant, Im in comp sci class.  If your on in a few hours I'll be at work and I can try.19:57
KilrooBlast...I'm probably going to have to start from scratch AGAIN...stupid Windows installation put its boot files in the free space I was reserving so I could put my /boot partition at the beginning of the drive.19:57
mrjunit3, cool, so we compare a programs reliability at beta to one thats released. makes sense, gotcha19:57
ARJonesjhasseL All ubuntu has is those few themes under appearance19:57
unit3mpetersen: is it hosed on all mirrors? that seems unlikely19:57
badgernoone else had problems with install freezing while configuring ast?19:57
Jordan_Umpetersen, You should file a bug report and try a different mirror19:58
mpetersenarchive, us and ca19:58
bXijhoz: i'll be n bed by then19:58
unit3mrj: well, yes, if I find something it beta to be more stable than the previous release, than I consider it pretty stable. ;)19:58
dryrotwhere is the ubuntu unstable channel hiding?19:58
unit3erm something in19:58
jhasseARJones, compiz is using metacity's themes, the standard gnome ones. But you can use beryl's: just install emerald and something like "emerald-theme-manager"19:58
euricohello. Just installed Gutsy Gibbon but don't have my CDROM device working :\19:58
Pirate_Hunterhas there been an update to bery/compiz so that other cards can use it, if so where can i find out which cards can do so?19:58
master3000any german19:58
codebluehey all, im having a problem with my usb harddrive, i cant mount it and it dosnt show up in fdisk -l19:58
master3000?19:58
KenSentMeDryft1, it's closed since gutsy went stable19:58
Jordan_Udryrot, There is no unstable release right now, so no channel for it :_)19:58
master3000germany kubuntu chat19:58
go|dfishmaster3000: #kubuntu-de19:59
unit3Pirate_Hunter: it'll work with any video card, you just only get hardware acceleration on cards that have direct rendering.19:59
amrhello i have installed gusty rc119:59
JourneymanI can't get the cube to enable19:59
mpetersenunit3: does us.archive.ubuntu.com do round robin?  I doubt canada and the us really have different servers...19:59
mrji miss #ubuntu+119:59
jhassemaster3000, yes19:59
KenSentMedryrot, it's closed since gutsy went stable19:59
Jordan_U!de | master300019:59
ubotumaster3000: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:59
mpetersenmaybe I should try se or uk or something...19:59
dryroti accidentally left it, i feel uncool now19:59
unit3mpetersen: err, it does round robin of us servers, ca.archive.ubuntu.com does round robin of canadian servers, they *are* different.19:59
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codeblue002s19:59
mpetersennaw, they are different, us and ca19:59
unit3mpetersen: that's what I just said, yes.19:59
IpMooBeta.ca server is dead slow19:59
Pirate_Hunterunit3: at the moment i cant use any desktop effects so can you help me out?19:59
amrand updated gusty rc1 but still when i type | uname -a| i get that it's pre release kernel19:59
Jordan_UI can ping my machine and I can ssh in but not get a shell, should I pull the plug?20:00
DerDrittePovAddict: Think I did it, thx anyway :)20:00
unit3Pirate_Hunter: sure, open private chat with me.20:00
mpetersenunit3: I know, I did a nslookup and typed that before I saw what you said...20:00
kritzstapfxrandr -s fooxbar does not work anymore, whats the?20:00
mrjIf you guys are trying to download, it'd make sense to use the torrent considering it's release day20:00
mrjhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/20:00
unit3IpMooBeta: try the arcticnetwork mirror, it's quite fast for me.20:00
mrjIt's at the bottom and I'm getting almost 1.5mbps20:00
ARJonesjhasse: Thanks. I guess I'm going to stick with metacity since it seems to be working well. I can just change gnome's themes by downloading some. I'm not going to push my luck lol20:00
Marfidownload day!!!  =)20:00
codeblue002can anyone help me with my usb hdd?20:00
mrjActually I just finished so I'll seed20:00
* IpMooBeta il runn the beta till the disks get here, then clean install20:00
Journeymando you have to restart X to get the cube to be enabled?20:00
naliothcodeblue002: don't ask to ask. just ask your question20:00
comosicusi whant to make a partition on hard...i have ubunt 7.04...........20:00
Mmphget it quick before Reddit and Digg get it in the front page :D20:00
mrjit was dugg this morning20:01
Marficomosicus, gnome partition manager20:01
eTiger13i mapped my keyboards sleep button to lock the screen. this worked up until this last kernel. now it locks the screen and then hibernates or shuts down my computer. how can i get it to just lock the screen only again20:01
mrjall the http links are crap right now, no point in downloading it via those20:01
mpetersenunit3: I think maybe it's just too slow...20:01
codeblue002ok my usb hdd wont show up on fdisk -l20:01
comosicusi do not know how to do that20:01
codeblue002the indication lights on the hdd indicate it is working20:01
DerDrittePovAddict: Update running, thx again.20:01
kahrytanHow do you show Home folder on desktop now?20:01
Marfilink to the ubuntu torrent:   http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent20:01
unit3mpetersen: yeah, maybe, since it is release day. :)20:01
comosicusi opened gnome partition manager......and that.........pich black20:02
mpetersenwhere is close besides us and ca?  what's mexico?  mx?20:02
PovAddictMarfi: that's the DVD, most people dont need that20:02
PovAddictmpetersen: yes20:02
unit3mpetersen: it depends on your ISP, some isps have good links to europe, some don't20:02
PovAddictmpetersen: getting slow download?20:02
jhasseHow can i generate wep keys?20:02
Marfioops, linked wrong one.20:02
ARJoneslol that was weird. I tested suspend and my laptop got like halfway suspended. Fan was turned off, but power light stayed on and no amount of key pressing could bring it back to ligef20:02
ARJones*life20:02
unit3jhasse: google "generate wep keys" :P20:02
desiretoseeI lost my email account! can anyone help?please...20:02
amrdoes any one here got ubuntu final installed , can he post here the uname -a20:02
codeblue002come on ppl i need to get my HL2 off my hdd20:02
unit3amr: sure, just a sec20:02
PovAddictdesiretosee: how's that related to ubuntu?20:02
mrjYou lost your email account?20:03
amrthank you uit320:03
unit3amr: Linux RoH 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux20:03
j0rdi've never installed x64 linux. Is it worth it if i have a core2 duo? or should i avoid hassles and conflicts and install x32 version?20:03
A[D]minS!sources.list20:03
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource20:03
amrunit3 : thank you20:03
mpetersenPovAddict: Actually, getting botched release files...20:03
A[D]minS!EasySource20:03
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic20:03
unit3j0rd: only thing I use 32bit is flash plugin in firefox, the rest I run 64 bit native. you should be fine.20:03
mpetersenPovAddict: specifically for dapper20:03
Picij0rd: I'd avoid hassles if I was you20:03
unit3amr: np20:03
comosicusmarfi my bad......gnoe partition editor is in my comp.......so i need gnome partition manager20:03
swillFYI - I updated from 7.04 to 7.10.  i was having major issues with firefox (when typing it would render about 1 char per second).  kate would not even load.  I was noticing from top that XGL was spiking to about 98% of my cpu when trying to work with these programs.  i was having slow downs in a couple other places in my desktop environment...  i did the following:  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl and it has solved my problem...  (special thanks to crdlb)...20:03
lgc_How do I restart ALSA from the command line? Thanks.20:03
desiretoseeI use ubuntu system to open that emailadresse20:03
unit3Well, this channel is mental, and it's not helping me get my openoffice problem solved, I should've know better to come in here on release day. ;)20:03
Pirate_Hunterunit3: you still around?20:03
Marficomosicus, its fine. sudo apt-get install gparted20:04
adantehi, X just stopped responding to my mouse20:04
studyinghoary > gutsy20:04
mrjI highly doubt SMTP/POP3 changed from 7.04 to 7.1020:04
unit3Pirate_Hunter: yeah, I opened a private chat with you, talk to me there.20:04
mpetersennow it's work... sweden and netherlands.20:04
Marficomosicus, or gpartd, always forget how it is spelled. =)20:04
IpMooBetaunit3:   hehe20:04
adantecat /dev/input/mice shows the mouse is still working20:04
jhasseunit3, does a command exist in linux?20:04
studyingadante: is it a usb mouse?20:04
comosicusi did that allready20:04
adantestudying: yeah20:04
david2251Hello, ihave a problem with gutsy20:04
mpetersenapt-proxy might get tired of waiting for the US server I guess...20:04
Symmetriahrm, whats the command line command to upgrade from feisty to gutsy (update-manager needs a gui and Im working remotely)20:04
david2251it will not boot20:04
j0rdPici: you tried it before? Any issues?20:04
studyingadante: i've had the same problem. couldn't figure it out20:04
W9ZEBis today the official go live for 7.10?20:04
adantei removed a usb mass storage device about the same time, but thats about it20:04
Picij0rd: With 32 bits? never20:04
MarfiW9ZEB, yup20:04
PiciW9ZEB: yes, its out20:04
codeblue002im having a problem with my usb harddrive, i cant mount it and it dosnt show up in fdisk -l  any help would be great20:04
comosicusbut gpartd make partition if you dont have any operating sistem20:04
amrthis is my uname -a |"Linux amr-laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux20:04
amr" but i have updated my kernel and it says it still prerelease20:04
W9ZEBgrats to the Ubuntu team :)20:04
adantestudying: hm, did you just restart x?20:05
eTiger13david2251: you should take care of that before you try installing/running ubuntu20:05
david2251I have tried update and CD, both will not boot20:05
darkdevil85guys just 2 question before installing gutsy: 1) 15 gb in total are ok for the system? 2) if i have 2 gb of physical ram,what would be the size for the swap partition?20:05
mpetersenOk, anyone watching, dapper isn't broken... just the server is too slow.  It may have something to do with apt-proxy, but not really sure.20:05
W9ZEBI've been running it since last thursday.  but always good to see final :)20:05
j0rdPici:  you tried x64? did you have a bad experience?20:05
Marficomosicus, you will probably ahve to boot a live CD and change it like that20:05
Nighthawk420are there any major differences with 7.10 compared to 7.04  with compiz?20:05
comosicusbut i'll  try one more time20:05
eTiger13w9zeb: read the ubuntu homepage?20:05
dryrotSymmetria: edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list ; change all instances of 'feisty' to 'gutsy' ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade20:05
W9ZEBeTiger13: not since thursday....  think it said 7days then.20:05
Nighthawk420i just installed 7.10 and yea looks lik my 7.04 with compiz hehe20:05
david2251how should I?20:05
Symmetriathanks20:05
billybong1where do I go to look at a print queue these days?20:05
DerDrittePovAddict: Could not calculate the upgrade20:05
DerDritteAn unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.20:06
DerDrittePlease report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bug report.20:06
alainanyone have installed kiba in gutsy20:06
SchmallonAnybody else having problems starting firefox on 7.10? It segfaults for me20:06
DerDrittewtf happened?20:06
eTiger13schmallon: nope20:06
mpetersenSymmetria: you need to manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change feisty to gutsy.  'apt-get update' 'apt-get dist-upgrade' but be careful.20:06
codeblue002Is it possible to upgrade my feisty to gutsy on an encrypted LVM (all encrypted except /boot)20:06
kishanhow to install awn in gusty is there any repositry20:06
eTiger13DerDritte: Release day20:06
Matt37Rarg, man, I thought this was going to be easy to try Linux...20:06
avsa242Has anyone else with Broadcom wifi (groan) ever had mostly dropped packets in X, but switch to a vc and have it work perfectly?20:06
Jordan_Ussh user@ip /bin/dash should make the ssh session start dash instead of bash, correct?20:06
eTiger13codeblue002: should be able to20:07
doofy`whew the repos are hurting for sure :o20:07
DerDritteeTiger13: Releaseday happened?20:07
cld2kishan: this works for gutsy also: http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/UbuntuFeistyHowTo20:07
eTiger13DerDritte: yup. all the servers are going to be full for awhile20:07
Matt37RFirst I get a MP-BIOS Bug:8254 error, then I the graphics are all messed up for the eVGA 7900 GT/GTO card20:07
mpetersenSymmetria: I'm pretty sure you'll need to do a dist-upgrade for the last step, normally upgrade would hold back all kinds of things for this type of update.20:07
eurico_Ubuntu doesn't detect my CD device20:07
lgc_Symmetria, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change "feisty" to "gutsy". Do 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. That should do, but expect bottlenecks today and a few days from now.20:07
DerDritteeTiger13: I'm installing from an alternate cd...20:07
codeblue002its just everytime iv tryed to update my kernel my system wont boot20:07
Masticore-guide to wine (gutsy) ?20:07
Matt37Ranyone else able to get their 7900 GT card working?20:07
codeblue002im having a problem with my usb harddrive, i cant mount it and it dosnt show up in fdisk -l  any help would be great20:08
dogwaterdoes anyone know where i can find a manual for kickstarting ubuntu?20:08
rootehi! how do i get vesafb after boot?20:08
adantehi guys, i run gnome-session in both vnc and local X, is there a way to keep the settings seperate20:08
boskantmanjoin /ubuntu-nl20:08
Symmetriaheh lgc I wont have bottlenecks *grin* Im rather close to za.releases.ubuntu.com and za.archive.ubuntu.com... as in... they are on the same gigE switch as the box Im upgrading :p20:08
arang2anyone could point me to the page with the md5 of the gutsy ISO? i wanna check that i got it right20:08
IcemanV9Masticore-: sudo aptitude install wine20:08
ShapeshifterAs soon as I connect to a vpn server my network connection gets lost. This wasn't the case with feisty. What to do?20:08
dryrotcodeblue002: look for what device your computer sees the usb drive as, "dmesg | grep usb" will probably help20:08
PovAddicthttp://se.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/MD5SUMS20:08
PovAddictarang2: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/MD5SUMS20:08
IpMooBetacodeblue002:    did it work  at all befor20:08
stray77MD5sums -> http://pastebin.com/m28d5be1d20:08
pedrohi there20:09
arang2thank u guys20:09
doofy`is the partner repo the new commercial repo?20:09
mc44doofy`: yes20:09
Pirate_Hunterunit3: I have typed to you a couple of times, can't you see my messages20:09
greencookiewhassaap20:09
cld2arang2: d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c  Desktop/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso20:09
codeblue002IpMooBeta, it worked on a previous install of feisty20:09
lgc_Symmetria, lucky you!20:09
greencookieMasterShrek:  Hello:D20:09
* IpMooBeta good thats what i ment 7.0520:09
IpMooBeta7.0420:09
lungtoysis there an ATI linux driver chat room?20:09
arooAnyone needing a fast torrent option for 7.10 --> http://ubuntu.gds.tuwien.ac.at/cdimage/releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent20:09
lgc_codeblue002, try manual mount with pmount.20:10
usorNow that I have Ubuntu 7.10 installed where do I go to enable the 3D Cube and what not for compiz fusion???20:10
aroo4389 peers, 2000 seeders20:10
KenSentMelungtoys, it think there is #ati20:10
greencookie!ati | lungtoys20:10
ubotulungtoys: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:10
p512olol! I aborted the online upgrade with update-manager and use the alternate cd now. but still about 1000 packages are going to be downloaded! :7 Are these leftovers from my previous update attempt or is this normal? I chose _not_ to get online updates with the cdrom update-manager btw..20:10
eurico_Ubuntu doesn't detect my CD device20:10
ShapeshifterAs soon as I connect to a vpn server my network connection gets lost. This wasn't the case with feisty. What to do?20:10
mc44usor: System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual effects20:10
pedroany knows why appear a "Workspace Switcher" on my desktop? and how can i remove it  ?20:10
gsprShould apt-get still be talking about "processing triggers" for libc6 after the gutsy upgrade is complete?20:10
buhhi, i upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 with update-manager. it downloaded everything. it started to upgrade/install for an hour had some errors with cpucups/gnome-theme/ubuntu desktop it continued for 30 mins or so then stoped telling me somthing like "cant continue. your system maybe unusable". how can i reupgrade/unupgrade/fix this ?20:10
Symmetriaheh I was torrenting earlier but the za mirrors flattened my bandwidth as it was so killed the torrent seeds20:10
usormc44: Ok, thanks20:10
mc44usor: or install compizconfig-settings-manager20:10
codeblue002lgc_,  i dont know what /dev/* it is at fdisk -l wont show it?20:10
dryrotaroo: i think all the torrents trackers for ubuntu talk to each other dont they20:10
pedroany knows why appear a "Workspace Switcher" on my desktop? and how can i remove it  ?20:10
gsprbuh: Let me know when you get an answer, ok? I'm in a similar situation.20:10
eTiger13gspr: yes20:11
greencookiepedro: Right click on workspace manager and remove panel20:11
stray77usor, i used this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/20:11
Balaams_Miracleusor: right-click desktop, tab Visual Effects.20:11
buhok same to you20:11
gspreTiger13: Really? Isn't that a bit weird?20:11
Pirate_HunterIsnt it just annoying when someone offers to help and they swap there name so now im invisble to them yet i can read the messages they send me in private20:11
lgc_codeblue002, try dmesg and see if it appears.20:11
PovAddictdryrot: they are all identical .torrents20:11
greencookiepedro: right click and remove from panel20:11
Masticore-IcemanV9, I dont get the config tool for wine :<20:11
mrjThe Beta/RC installs will update right to the released install today right20:11
ejergspr: it is not weird20:11
keanufor some reason apt-get hasn't found a single package that's upgradeable in the past few days - has it been that quiet, or is it having some sort of problem?20:11
cld2codeblue002: a usb drive will usually be the first free scsi disk, so maybe sdb?20:11
stray77usor, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager20:11
codeblue002lgc_, i get loads of this usb 1-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 320:11
eTiger13gspr: it was a change to how it works.20:11
IcemanV9usor: 3D cube is in compizconfig-settings-manager package20:11
usormc44: What is the apt get command look like for installing that20:11
usorstray77: Ok, I gotcha thanks20:11
usorthanks20:11
stray77np20:12
KenSentMekeanu, i think your system was up to date for a few days20:12
arooI'm guessing the apt mirror scan at Ubuntu Install is being hammered right now?20:12
KenSentMekeanu, i havent had updates today either20:12
greencookieIcemanV9: wont i need to install 3d drivers for my ati card before compiz fusion?20:12
keanuKenSentMe, so even though Gutsy was released today, there hasn't been any since, Saturday or Sunday?20:12
IcemanV9Masticore-: boy, i haven't used wine in a long time. there is command to bring it up ... hopefully someone will give ya the answer20:12
dryrotdid someone write apt-download-all-the-crap-you-need-by-torrent yet ?20:12
KenSentMekeanu, could be20:12
Mmphgreencookie, yes you need 3d drivers20:12
stray77greencookie, i had to install the restricted nvidia drivers first20:13
lgc_codeblue002, then at least it is recognized.20:13
keanuKenSentMe, ok...hope there isn't a problem with apt20:13
greencookieThat blows! I try to install 3d drivers and cant:( I'm ati based card20:13
codeblue002loolz20:13
ejerkeanu: u shld have had updates in last 3 days20:13
BluespearCould a key like : ...5ç3fmas(#alk..... causes problems to wpa supplicant ? I cannot make it connect to the ap20:13
IcemanV9greencookie: in the terminal, type glxinfo | grep direct (if yes, then you're all set)20:13
arooIs there a way to skip the "Configuring apt... scanning the mirror" step at Ubuntu Install on LiveCD? It seems as though the step is taking forever because of everyone trying to do it right now.20:13
Vletdryrot: no, perhaps you should :)20:13
keanuejer, that's what I would have thought, but there hasn't been20:13
KenSentMekeanu, if you can run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade without errors i dont think there is something wrong20:13
codeblue002yeah but theres pages of it so somthing may be wrong20:13
emethi20:13
ejeraroo: kill your internet? not sure what will happen :)20:13
p512oDShepherd, have you tried the alternate iso already? I am atm. but it will still try to download ~1000 packages from the repositires! why that?20:14
keanuKenSentMe, no errors, not nothing is upgradeable....just seems a little odd to me20:14
greencookieIcemanV9: glxinfo | grep direct gives me a null:(20:14
KenSentMekeanu, you run gutsy or feisty?20:14
keanuKenSentMe, gutsy20:14
studyingwhy isn't my usb printer being detected?20:14
KenSentMekeanu, then i wouldn't worry20:14
studyingit was detected in breezy and dapper20:14
max___gutsy rules!20:14
emetdryrot, there is apt-torrent yes and once ubuntu gets more mainstream I think ISPs will host repositories20:14
JC_Denton_:s amsn is unable to find tcl despite version v8.5 being installed (according to synaptic)20:14
arnathhi, i am using evolution for my mails and i have one gmail account in it and some other accounts. Everytime i try to send something with the other accounts and i press send/receive, evolution tries to send the mail through smtp.gmail.com instead of the ones i indicated in the settings of evolution for that specific account. Anyone know why?20:14
keanuKenSentMe, ok, thanks20:14
cox377any current major issues with the gutsy upgrade?20:15
CryoniqAnyone with a Logitech G7 mouse that got it working under Gusty with extra buttons?20:15
amrHELLO , IS THERE AN APP TO CONFIGURE LAPTOP POWERSAVING MODE20:15
IcemanV9greencookie: ah. okay. you'll need to install restricted driver for ATI then. by the way, which version?20:15
desertcIf I have a couple packages (the kernel) that are not fully updated, then should I upgrade to Gutsy?20:15
KenSentMearnath, what happens if you disable the gmail account?20:15
Vletcox377: not for the most part20:15
naliothamr: caps lock stuck?20:15
pabloHi, I want to ask a question20:15
openforlifeMost problems with 7.10 can be read and fixed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/71020:15
thebighamHow do i set Thunar as the default manager in gutsy?????20:15
_MrPink_!ask pablo20:15
cox377Vlet: well here goes lol20:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask pablo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:15
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cox377Vlet: is there anyway to come back?20:15
UbuntuGuyHey all.  Any tips on getting images on the top and bottom of the cube in gutsy?20:15
arnathKenSentMe: hmm, didn't know you could disable one, i shall see if i can find out how to :p20:15
greencookieIcemanV9: is there a way of finding out which one I have? lspci gives me unknown ati card20:15
_MrPink_!question | pablo20:15
JC_Denton_!tcl20:15
PovAddictone questionmark is enough20:15
ubotupablo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)20:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:16
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Vletcox377: not really... reinstall :)20:16
KenSentMearnath, in Edit-Preferences20:16
pablomay I upgrade to Giusty in console text  mode by using apt-get distupgrade like in Debian?20:16
arnathKenSentMe: ah yes, it still uses gmail server though20:16
IcemanV9greencookie: i am sorry. which version of ubuntu? what kind of laptop are you using?20:16
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mc44pablo: use sudo do-release-upgrade20:16
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pike_pablo: but yes20:16
pablomc44: thanks!20:16
dindinxIs there a live CD for Gutsy?20:17
mc44dindinx: yes20:17
arnathKenSentMe: also, its possible i have to reset the smtp port to something else on some other accounts, but i can't seem to find a way to set the ports?20:17
Vletamr: Have you tried the System >> preferences >> Power Management control panel yet?20:17
KenSentMearnath, hmm that seems strange, and you are sure the smtp server for the other accounts is set to something else?20:17
n1rvanaкто20:17
n1rvanaздесь20:17
p512oHas anyone of you tried the alternate iso already? I am atm. but it will still download ~1000 packages from the repositories! why's that? same with you?20:17
greencookieIcemanV9: ubuntu 7.04 using it on my Amd 64 desktop and it has an ATI card.20:17
mc44!ru | n1rvana20:17
ubotun1rvana: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke20:17
PovAddictdindinx: the desktop install CD is live20:17
thebighamHow do i set THunar as the default file manager in gutsy??????????20:17
NoFearDJBI got a message saying CPU Frequency Scaling Unsupported when a couple of weeks ago it was working fine, any suggestions?20:17
arnathKenSentMe: yes, quite sure, in the "sending" part i have a different server for each one20:17
codeblue002lgc_, anymore ideas on how to get my drive mounted20:17
greencookie!in20:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:17
KilrooAnyone have any idea why my multimedia keys had keysyms in Feisty with no xmodmap and in gutsy they all register as keysym 0x0? I'm somewhat loathe to use xmodmap when I didn't have to before.20:17
KenSentMearnath, i wouldn't. can't check it atm, running windows20:17
thebigham!thunar20:17
ubotuthunar is a File Manager for XFCE. It is a lightweight alternative Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease20:17
KenSentMearnath, that should be enough20:17
VletNoFearDJB: Perhaps that feature was not stable enough for the final release, so was taken out20:18
amrVLET, YES BUT IT DOEN'T GET THE MAX OF MY BATTERY , xp DOES IT BETTER BY 1 HOUR20:18
nex1Anyone have a guide for composite working on Dell 6400 with ATI x1400 yet?20:18
KenSentMe!caps | amr20:18
greencookieIcemanV9: ubuntu 7.04 using it on my Amd 64 desktop and it has an ATI card.20:18
ubotuamr: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.20:18
NoFearDJBit was in feisty....20:18
lgc_codeblue002, are you invoking fdisk as root or with sudo?20:18
Vletamr: turn off caps lock :)20:18
arnathKenSentMe: i already contacted my email provider and they suggested altering the port, but i simply cant find it :s20:18
codeblue002lgc_, sudo20:18
borovy3488how is gutsy running for everyone?20:18
IcemanV9greencookie: ooooh. 64-bit pc. i'm not an expert on that kind of bit. i don't know if there is an issue or not for ATI & 64-bit.20:18
Vletborovy3488: very well, thanks20:18
codeblue002lgc_, Root disabled20:18
arnathborovy3488: great for now, only 1 tiny bug ;)20:18
cld2borovy3488: freaking great!20:18
amrvlet, sorry i pressed it and didn't notice20:18
arnathwhich is fixed with a gnome reboot20:18
KenSentMearnath, maybe you could ask on the GimpNet irc server in the #evolution channel20:18
DerDritteAnyone upgraded with alternate so far?!?20:18
eurico_borovy3488, bad. I don't have my CDROM device detected by  Ubuntu20:18
dryrotDerDritte: I did20:19
dindinxthanks.20:19
openforlifeMost problems with 7.10 can be read and fixed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/71020:19
arnathKenSentMe: ok great thx :)20:19
borovy3488thats awesome news guys.  What time did it actually get released20:19
IcemanV9greencookie: let me check ....20:19
NoFearDJBanyone know where i can find a guide to installing services with cpu scaling?20:19
Vletamr: That's not a very specific question... perhaps you could search http://ubuntuforums.com/ about reducing power consumption20:19
DerDrittedryrot: Not working for me: 2007-10-18 21:15:43,103 DEBUG Installing 'language-support-it' (Distro KeepInstalledSection rule: translations)20:19
DerDritte2007-10-18 21:15:54,143 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'20:19
greencookieIcemanV9: thanks for your help. BTW I'm a total linux newbie and dunno if im using the 64bit linux or not.20:19
codeblue002lgc_,  fdisk -l shows my internal drives (sda,sdb)20:19
thyagobrgreencookie: did you already try to update your drivers using envy?20:19
arnathKenSentMe: is that gimpnet.org or gimpnet.net or...?20:19
Vletamr: Do you have desktop effects turned on?20:19
greencookiewhats envy20:19
lgc_codeblue002, then it should appear. I did some test plugging in an USB stick and it got recognized, but I did the same with my USB spare drive and nothing seems to happen (damn!).20:19
amryes20:19
KenSentMearnath, are you running xchat?20:19
borovy3488can I use this channel for gutsy issues now?20:19
greencookiethyagobr: right now I'm using vesa driver i think,20:19
Vletamr: Well there ya go20:19
amrvlet ,yes20:19
Kilrooborovy3488, pretty well for the most part, I'm just irritated that I can't figure out why my multimedia keyboard keys no longer have usable keysyms by default.20:19
arnathKenSentMe: pidgin20:19
* billzecat scrambles to free 250MB of space in /usr...20:19
Marfihow do you update from the CD?20:20
Vletamr: that's a pretty big power hog20:20
Marficna you do it from the live CD itself?20:20
* IpMooBeta usb stick works fine here20:20
amrvlet , you mean i have to turn it off20:20
codeblue002lgc_,  yeah my pen works but the drive dont20:20
DerDrittedryrot: did some aptitude autoclean before...20:20
Nighthawk420aight so what are the big new improvements on 7.10 other than compiz20:20
Dekkardso are the servers hammered(/me will wait)?20:20
mc44Nighthawk420: read the release notes on the website20:20
* greencookie smokes a cigarette. Ah, so refreshing.20:20
KenSentMearnath, irc.gimp.org20:20
mrjWho was asking if there were Gutsy updates since saturday/sunday?20:20
Vletamr: if you want desktop effects, you're asking your video card to do a lot of work which requires more power.20:20
amrvlet but i love it , it's the reason i left windws to linux20:20
arnathKenSentMe: great, thanks again :)20:20
dryrotDerDritte: i cheated and copied all of the deb files off of the alternative iso, stuck them in a dir, followed directions for using a directory of deb files in /etc/apt/sources.list , temporarily got rid of all the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list that referred to a apt repo off on the internet somewhere, did apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade20:20
greencookiewait a second! 7.1??20:20
borovy3488does anyone know why flash movies and games would be either horrible quality, run slow, or crash firefox in gutsy???20:20
KenSentMearnath, no problem20:20
lgc_codeblue002, let me try and remember how I usually go about it...20:20
Vletamr: Life is hard.20:20
IcemanV9greencookie: lsb_release -a (will tell ya what version of ubuntu)20:21
Marfihow do you update from the live CD?20:21
DerDrittedryrot: sounds freaky :P20:21
KenSentMeborovy3488, no, but if you run firefox from terminal, do you get any errors?20:21
pike_borovy3488: sure youre using flash920:21
UbuntuGuyHey all.  Any tips on getting images on the top and bottom of the cube in gutsy?20:21
cld2Marfi: its a boot option I belive.20:21
borovy3488pike_:yes, I'm using flash920:21
IcemanV9greencookie: great info on ATI -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI20:21
Greyhound-what's the next version of ubuntu gonna be ? I remember I read some release notes a few months ago that Gusty is more of a update for 7.04. The next version will be completely new.20:21
codeblue002lgc_,  can i reload the driver or something like that20:21
Marficld2, ty. =)20:21
arnathKenSentMe: hmm i cant seem to connect to it20:21
borovy3488KenSentMe: whats the command? just firefox?20:21
Kilroogreencookie, I think 7.1 is the next version of Mesa. Still in development I believe.20:21
cld2UbuntuGuy: #ubuntu-effects20:21
geniiNighthawk420: A not-bad article here as well http://tech.tolero.org/blog/en/linux/review-ubuntu-710-gutsy-features-changes20:22
amris there any way to reduce the power consuption of VGA like that of CPU i.e. CPU scaling but for VGA20:22
KenSentMeborovy3488, i don't know exactly20:22
Vlet!ccsm | UbuntuGuy20:22
lgc_codeblue002, what do you mean by "driver"?20:22
ubotuUbuntuGuy: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz20:22
greencookieIcemanV9: thanks. I'm using fiesty it seems.20:22
bernierHi, I am trying to apply a patch to a kernel I want to compile, but when running patch -p1 /usr/src/patch , the console just hang there and does nothing20:22
cld2amr: turn down the brightness?20:22
greencookieKilroo: is it stable enough to install?20:22
UbuntuGuyjoin #ubuntu-effects20:22
amrcld2 , i did20:22
codeblue002lgc_,  "usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual"20:22
pike_amr: xgamma -gamma .5 or soemthing20:22
DerDrittedryrot: I'll try another sweep...20:22
M_WS2 days ago I got rid of windows and installed Ubuntu on my laptop - now it doesn't find my wireless network (it does find other networks, just not mine) I'm considering switching back to windows. But before that, I would like to know if there is anything else that could cause it not finding my network. Any ideas?20:22
borovy3488KenSentMe: yes, I'm still getting the errors.  The command is "firefox"20:22
amrpike_ , what is that20:22
bododowohaaa20:22
bododo:)20:22
gsprWhat file specifies what version I'm running? My Gutsy upgrade ALMOST completed, then hung. Gutsy boots fine, but adept_manager still reports an upgraded version available. Trying to upgrade gives me that I already have the latest version. Is there some file specifying which version I'm at?20:23
cld2amr: thats the only thing I could think of, unless you are asking about throttaling the gpu on a card. I dont know if you can do that.20:23
lgc_codeblue002, I don't know about that...20:23
KenSentMeborovy3488, but maybe the errors tell you more about the source of the problem20:23
wastedfluidlsb_release -a20:23
borovy3488pike_:any idea on how to fix the bad flash?20:23
wastedfluidgspr: lsb_release -a20:23
KenSentMearnath, irc.gnome.org20:23
pike_borovy3488: no sorry20:23
desertcHow do I run an upgrade with the CDROM image?20:23
thyagobrM_WS: when my wireless wasnt working it was because i forgot to turn it on =D lol20:23
borovy3488KenSentMe: no errors, it just starts.  I think its just a flash problem.20:23
Vletamr: no matter what you do, with visual effects on, you're going to use more power per hour than you would with vanilla XP20:23
bododoguys, i download and installed GG RC1 that's 4 days, is there any revelent chanegs from that RC1 and the final release?20:23
borovy3488pike_: thanks ne way man20:23
codeblue002lgc_,  its one of the messeges i get from dmesg | grep usb20:23
Kilroogreencookie: I used it for a while and it worked somewhat, but the only reason I tried it was that I was having issues that prevented me from installing 7.0.1. I'm probably going to try fglrx when the next release comes out.20:23
M_WSthyagobr: I´m pretty sure i switched it on in the firmware20:23
notvhey guys, im curious-under what circumstances should someone get the alternate install of gutsy instead of the regular?20:23
UbuntuGuyubotu -- tried that no luck20:24
greencookieKilroo: Ah. ok.20:24
arnathKenSentMe: strange...its not connecting either? (quakenet works though)20:24
TSWoodVSome of the .isos available on bittorrent for the various releases of Ubuntu are DVD images that seem quite large.  I understand that the alternative and desktop installers are both on the DVDs, but that alone doesn't explain the large size.  What else is on the DVDs?20:24
KenSentMebododo, there may be some minor changes, but they get fixed during regular updates20:24
thyagobrM_WS i mean the notebook switch... but that probably isnt the case very often =P20:24
KenSentMearnath, huh?20:24
nex1The 3D stuff in Gutsy wont work with the "fglrx" driver?20:24
Jeruvyoffhand what version of evolution is installed with Gutsy?20:24
M_WSthyagobr: yeah, it picks up other networks20:24
Vletnotv: if you can't get the regular one to boot properly, the alternate is a non-graphical installer20:24
bododoKenSentMe: any chance to have a changelog, please? :)20:24
thyagobrM_WS oh, i see20:24
arnathKenSentMe: maybe i'll get me xchat and try it there20:24
Chillside|FenomHey, why do I get this when I start Ubuntu? http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/_DSC01690.JPG20:24
Picinex1: depends what card you have?20:24
KenSentMebododo, i dont have it20:24
Lumienthere were no updates to download on my RC when the official release went out20:24
DUUUUUDEhi guys, is there something like Download Accelerator plus?20:24
amrok another q? how to read dvds burnt by vista20:24
IcemanV9greencookie: i'm using fglrx driver; worked great with Google Earth (a good app to test 3D)20:24
DUUUUUDEfor linux20:24
mrjCan someone tell me what a broken Software index equates to20:24
ejerDUUUUUDE: downthemall for firefox20:24
Levielalright!  i can now connect to the internet from ubuntu, which should make things a lot easier.  however, network with my RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ NIC is still not working;  or at least, i don't see any other computers on the network.  it's a wired home connection.20:25
bododoKenSentMe: do they publish one?20:25
nex1I have a x1400, it tells me the ATI restricted drive is installed20:25
gsprwastedfluid: lsb_release -a says Gutsy. Do you have any idea why adept still has a "Version upgrade" button?20:25
DUUUUUDEthnx ejer20:25
Kilroonotv: If you don't want to try it out for a while while still using some other operating system. But take that with a grain of salt, I consider the alternate to be normal and the livecd to be special case.20:25
notvi could not get the regular feisty install disk to boot on my laptop. do you think i will run into the same problem with gutsy?20:25
nex1but i cant activate the 3D stuff in the options20:25
Picinex1: install xgl-server20:25
KenSentMebododo, might be, i don't know really20:25
Chillside|FenomHey, why do I get this when I start Ubuntu? http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/_DSC01690.JPG The CD is ordered and it works on my dads computer, and both of us have AMD64 so it should work20:25
Picinex1: You may need to restart X after that20:25
`Matiris it possible to do a server install from the livecd?  (just becasue i have the livecd handy)20:25
greencookieIcemanV9: the fglrx driver shows in my restricted drivers but when I enable it and restart x I get black blank screen20:25
bododoKenSentMe: thanks anyway :)20:25
smallfoot-i downloaded 7.10 gutsy today, then i saw a wubi file on the cd, and i clicked on it, and suddently it started to install stuff on my computer, without ask me20:25
borovy3488any other ideas on why flash would be slow or buggy??20:25
KenSentMebododo, no problem20:25
bododo:)20:25
DerDritteWhat to do? 2007-10-18 21:23:44,903 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'20:25
hwildeRAM Question - Can 32bit ubuntu handle 8G of memory, or can only x64bit handle 8G ?20:25
cld2`Matir: no, you need the server cd20:25
ejerhwilde: nope, use x6420:26
wastedfluidgspr: I installed Gutsy with the CD this mornin.  When I FIRST "apt-get update --fix-missing" - and went to adept package manager, it said i had a distro upgrade too.. just do what you're doing, and ignore it.. because mine no longer says that.20:26
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Chillside|FenomHey, why do I get this when I start Ubuntu? http://www.fuskbugg.se/pub/misc/_DSC01690.JPG The CD is ordered and it works on my dads computer, and both of us have AMD64 so it should work20:26
lgc_codeblue002, dmesg is a lower level utility. It helps mortals in knowing what /dev the device is assigned to, and if it's ever recognized, but not to much else, if you're not too technical.20:26
ejerChillside|Fenom: try booting with noapic20:26
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`MatirChillside|Fenom, please don't repeat yourself20:26
billzecatWell, I solved my space dilemma - uninstall OOo...20:26
Chillside|Fenomejer: with what?20:26
bernierHi, I am trying to apply a patch to a kernel I want to compile, but when running patch -p1 /usr/src/patch , the console just hang there and does nothing20:26
Lumienwho likes python?20:26
KilrooIcemanv9: What's your card? r350's aren't supposed to be supported yet, and when I tried the latest fglrx anyhow it certainly handled compositing much faster but I got a lot of graphical anomalies.20:26
Chillside|Fenom`Matir: sorry20:26
greencookieIcemanV9: can I go sudo reconfigure-xorg to choose fglrx20:26
arkygeekhi. firefox is running but i cant see it... how do i kill it?  i did a killall firefox  but that didnt work20:26
savvasis it ok to use icedtea-java7-jre instead of java on amd64? is it compatible with the web java modules?20:26
`MatirChillside|Fenom, as ejer mentioned, try editing the boot parameters to add noapic20:26
notvvlet, do you think if i need the alternate install for feisty i would also need the alternate install for gutsy?20:26
arnathKenSentMe: xchat seems to work, not sure why pidgin doesnt do it20:26
IcemanV9greencookie: it should work, but maybe one or two lines need to be tweaked a bit. post your xorg.conf via http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org20:26
borovy3488is your guys' apt-get update working???20:27
therethinkerDoes gutsy have the drivers and stuff for the bcm wireless cards-- or will I need to get those separately like on Fiesty?20:27
MmphI have an IDE and a SATA hard drive, will this cause problems with my Ubuntu install?20:27
notvi have a newish ati card that needs the fglrx driver20:27
savvasborovy3488: yes20:27
cld2arkygeek: form a terminal pkill -9 firefox20:27
KenSentMearnath, strange20:27
therethinkermmph: no20:27
greencookieIcemanV9: sorry to be such a noob but where do i find xorg.conf?20:27
alonzohello20:27
srcarkygeek, ps -aef|grep firefox|awk '{print $2}'|kill -920:27
MmphCool thanke therethinker20:27
therethinker/etc/X11/xorg.conf20:27
youknowmeI can't upgrade to gutsy from feisty, the upgrade isn't listed in the manager, does this look right ? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15rd451&s=220:27
humboltois there a way to disable the whole bulletproveX displayconfig-gtk magic?20:27
Mmphthanks^^20:27
codeblue002lgc_, it dosnt say any /dev just that is scanning it and assigned to address 520:27
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codeblue002?20:27
Chillside|Fenomsorry but I dont get it20:27
humboltothis stuff just freaks out on me!20:27
therethinkeryou're welcome20:27
alonzowhere is ubuntu frach?20:27
humboltoI don't want it!20:27
alonzofranch20:27
The_Joe_Hi, I'm on RealTek HD Intel wadamahoots and I only get sound through Headphones, no I'm not muted20:27
borovy3488savvas: it is saying that it can't connect to the server for me. for some odd reason.  I upgraded to gutsy RC from feisty, could that be a problem?20:27
ejerChillside|Fenom: try shutting down and restarting20:27
DerDritteAlternate CD isn't working...20:27
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alonzoubuntu-fr20:28
arkygeeksrc thx20:28
Chillside|Fenomejer: i've tried20:28
usorIn Ubuntu 7.10 is there an easy way to encrypt for example a media file lets say a video but still have easy access to watching it without have to unencrypt it? I know programs like Truecrypt can do this, but is there anything built in? Perhaps it's possible to encryt it as an archive somehow and open the archive and watch it without extracting it?20:28
KenSentMe!fr | alonzo20:28
ubotualonzo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.20:28
alonzomerci20:28
savvasborovy3488: change your software sources to an other mirror, system > administration > software sources20:28
Marfihow do i run an update from the live CD?20:28
borovy3488savvas: what should I change them to?20:28
Light-wow this chanel is insanely huge, and theres only one OP20:28
lgc_codeblue002, I finally had my USB drive working. I'd just plugged it the wrong way! Might it be your case?20:28
ejerChillside|Fenom: update BIOS20:28
greencookieIcemanV9: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41115/20:28
d1n0i lost my titlebars after installing compiz... help?20:29
KenSentMemartii, are you running Ubuntu already?20:29
* Light- has a knack for stating the obvious20:29
jeroen__damn20:29
IcemanV9greencookie: after installed fglrx, did you issue two commands: sudo aticonfig --initial AND sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv ?? (that solved my problem long ago)20:29
jeroen__no /leave command :/?20:29
greencookieIcemanV9: nops ill try that now20:29
savvasborovy3488: where are you from?20:29
* arang2 says Gutsy RAWKS20:29
ejerChillside|Fenom: at bootup, you can press F1 for help, you need to add the word noapic to boot parameters line... no guarantees this will work20:29
billzecatd1n0: Run ccsm and make sure window decoration's enabled? (you might also want to try #ubuntu-effects)20:29
borovy3488savvas: US, Tennessee20:29
Vletjeroen__: in what?20:29
savvasborovy3488: try the main server or us20:29
codeblue002lgc_, tried that and got a error on dmesg  usb 1-2: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 1 but max is 020:29
borovy3488savvas: it was on the main server20:29
Chillside|Fenomejer: could something get fucked up if it doesn't work?20:29
d1n0billybob, the guys in #ubuntu-effects screwed me over... that's why im having this problem now20:29
LjL!language20:30
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.20:30
savvasborovy3488: ok then try US, the main might be busy, I'm on a UK server myself20:30
KenSentMeMarfi, do you already have ubuntu installed?20:30
lgc_codeblue002, does your drive cable have 3 connectors?20:30
borovy3488savvas: I'm using htp://c.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu.  is that ok?20:30
humboltoSomebody help me.20:30
ejerChillside|Fenom: nopt with noapic20:30
IcemanV9greencookie: ah ha. it is still show "vesa". it should show "fglrx".20:30
humboltoI got a smoking nvidia card.20:30
wastedfluidwhew, the updates are speeding up. i guess the gutsy frenzy is over for now.. only to last until tonight :-)20:30
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Vletd1n0: It sounds like compiz is not working correctly20:30
billzecatd1n0: But did you check ccsm to ensure that window decoration is enabled?  I had the same problem migrating from beryl to compiz recently.20:30
Michael001Ubuntu 7.10 screwed up my filesystem and networking20:30
codeblue002lgc_, its an old usb120:30
Vletd1n0: perhaps you should disable it20:30
MarfiKenSentMe, yes. i used the beta of 7.10, and there were a few things that were buggy. i mainly wanted to do it to restore the few things  =)20:31
codeblue002lgc_, 4 pin20:31
humboltoAnd freaking displayconfig-gtk + failsafe X keep fooling me around.20:31
therethinkerSo, does gutsy support bcm cards?20:31
greencookieok im going to try to use fglrx now..what is the command line?20:31
Michael001so ill just wait for 7.10 wubi to come out20:31
IcemanV9greencookie: once you done those stuff, you'll need to restart X (ctrl + ati + backspace)20:31
savvasborovy3488: no, I don't know what country "c" is :) make that "us"20:31
KenSentMeMarfi, if you run the beta then just keep installing updates and your system will be the final release20:31
borovy3488savvas: OK, thanks20:31
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dpmlDoing a check in update manager raises errors stating that http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com repositories are unavailable.  Is there an IRC channel specifically dealing with those repositories?20:31
humboltoMy nvidia card used to work until beta if or the last tribe release before that!20:31
IcemanV9greencookie: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:31
greencookieIcemanV9: can u tell me the command line to reconfigure x to defaults in case I crash20:31
savvasborovy3488: you know how to manually change it right? gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list20:31
codeblue002lgc_, my good 2.0 usb broke cos i pulled it out early while copying a file20:31
MarfiKenSentMe, ty. =)20:32
humboltoBut now I can't get it to work with a higher res than 640x480!20:32
KenSentMeMarfi, no problems20:32
borovy3488savvas: yes, I know. i'm just hesitant about changing that because it messed up my computer once.20:32
lgc_codeblue002, I don't follow you. Does it have normal USB connectors?20:32
IcemanV9greencookie: best thing is to back up the xorg.conf, when it crashed .. you can copy the original xorg.conf back20:32
usorIn GNOME 2.20 how do I use the Encrypt FIles utility that makes encrypted archives and what not?20:32
KenSentMehumbolto, try running in recovery mode and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg20:33
greencookieIcemanV9: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41117/ after i ran those two commands20:33
AncientPCHow do I ssh into another server without using a blank password when generating public / private keys?20:33
arnathKenSentMe: ah, it has been fixed, i just had to append the new portnumber to the mailserver and it works ;)20:33
borovy3488savvas: ok, I'm using the Georgia Tech Server20:33
KenSentMearnath, nice :)20:33
panosruHi, repos are down???20:33
d1n0anyone??20:33
IcemanV9greencookie: that's it! it should work.20:33
d1n0i've tried turning off decorations stuff in ccsm20:33
codeblue002one is a square conector and the other is normal but i think the pins are the same20:33
Vlethumbolto: It sounds like you might want to look into reconfiguring your xorg.conf manually20:33
greencookieok ctrl +alt +backspace here goes.20:33
panosrurepos are down???20:33
DUUUUUDEwhat is a good gui encryption program for files?20:33
therethinkeryeah, they are,..20:34
thyagobrmy beryl with this X1600 only worked when I gave up =D20:34
billzecatd1n0: No... you need to turn them on...20:34
Vletd1n0: it sounds like compiz is not working correctly for you. Perhaps you should disable it.20:34
ejerDUUUUUDE: truecrypt20:34
savvasborovy3488: works now?20:34
comicinkerhi! I have a ATI succesfully installed, but activating desktop effects causes this message:20:34
comicinkerThe Composite extension is not available20:34
DUUUUUDEejer, thnx again :)20:34
d1n0Vlet, heh20:34
ejer:)20:34
Azzkikrdidn't Gutsy have compiz enabled somewhere in the menus?20:34
arnathi have a small bug in gutsy: when i (re)boot it is possible that the headers for windows (so the part you use to drag them around and which contains the X button) are wrong (being: the font is very small). a reboot of xserver fixes it20:34
comicinkercan somebody help me?20:34
borovy3488savvas: yea, it is downloading file 11 of 24, haha20:34
Azzkikri cant seem to find it20:34
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savvasborovy3488: great :)20:34
usorTruecrypt doesn't have a GUI for linux I thought!?!?!?!?!?20:34
codeblue002lgc_, one is a square conector and the other is normal but i think the pins are the same20:34
linxuz3rbrb20:34
linxuz3rWassssssup20:34
linxuz3rasdfpasodp20:34
linxuz3rsodifosidf20:34
borovy3488savvas: thanks20:34
savvasborovy3488: n/p :)20:35
usorejer: There is a gui for the truecrypt linux version!?20:35
Vletcomicinker: Desktop effects will often not automatically work with ATI cards. You may need to do a lot of 'tweaking' to get it working, if at all20:35
savvaslinxuz3r: change that keyboard, it's giving bad keys :]20:35
|Lord_Zoo|hi, is there a way to disable the scroll mouse button?20:35
askandHow do I edit permission on my external drive so I can write/read?20:35
ejerusor: guess not, thought there was20:35
comicinkerVlet: is there a link for those tweaks?20:35
|Lord_Zoo|in gnome, sorry20:35
dpmlrepository http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com is offline ?20:35
thyagobr>> When I installed Kubuntu it changed my startup and login screens... is there any way to revert it back to ubuntu defaults?20:35
usorejer: k20:35
Vletcomicinker: google.com20:35
savvasaskand: what kind of filesystem? ntfs/fat/ext3?20:36
Lucahello20:36
askand savvas: fat3220:36
humboltoHow to turn off bulletprove X?20:36
lgc_codeblue002, I regret I don't know square USB connectors. The only ones I know are rectangular: the "normal" one and the "mini", which is not quite rectangular.20:36
wangerdoes anyone know why ubuntu uses UUIDs in /etc/fstab rather than just listing the /dev/whatevers? i mean, what's the benefit?20:36
usorHow do I make an encrypted archive like a .zip file????20:36
bcardarellaVlet: are there any guides out there about ATI cards and desktop effects?20:36
WisebloodHi guys b4 I begin I have seardhed and searched and I havent quite found an answer to my problem (I have been trying to wing it for the past 3  days) so I figure now I ought to end my misery and come here to bother yall :P   My problem is with joystick drivers and emulation If someone could pm me to help that would be great (the PM is so i dont bother anyone else)20:36
comicinkerVlet: google.com20:36
ejerDUUUUUDE: look at kgpg for encryption20:36
kishanm_20:36
pityoi20:36
savvasaskand: usb right? it should be read/write if it has no errors20:36
dwxreaperwanger: i read why on google20:36
humboltoX might be bulletprove now, but the 640x480 I get from it kill me instead!20:36
dwxreapercan't remember20:36
pityuiahsuaihs20:36
[chr0n0s]!ati20:37
LucaCan I install ubuntu 7.10 without messing up the windows vista bootmgr?20:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:37
pityola alguem fala portugues ai?20:37
savvasaskand: do you know its /dev/ path?20:37
billzecatGAH!  Need to free 64MB on /usr...20:37
p512oanyone tried upgrading feisty to gutsy with the alternate cd? I got some questions on that.20:37
Levielubuntu detects my network card (it's an RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+, fully supported); but i don't see any other computers on the network when i go place > network.  it's a wired home connection, and everybody else are still using windows.20:37
panosrurepos are down???20:37
Whitoris there any support for fingerprint readers in Ubuntu?20:37
panosrurepos are down???20:37
Vletbcardarella, comicinker: yes there are many on ubuntuforums.org. It's just something way too specific to your particular vide card, and far too complex to walk through in a chat room20:37
aroopanosru, everyone is using them20:37
aroopanosru, expect lag20:37
askandsavvas: yes../dev/sdb120:37
KenSentMeLuca, how would you startup ubuntu then without a bootloader?20:37
savvasaroo: he left :p20:37
pedroi ve already installed the codecs for video but when i open a video in mplayer  appear one error?20:37
wangerdxreaper: ah cool, i did try googling, but the wikipedia page it turned up seemed to be referring to something else, i'll look harder, thanks =)20:37
usorpanosru: Not down, just slow because of mass usage20:37
mrjp512o, You mean do an install with the alternate cd?20:37
thyagobrHello all =D >> When I installed Kubuntu it changed my startup and login screens... is there any way to revert it back to ubuntu defaults?20:37
ejerusor: http://digg.com/linux_unix/TruecryptGUI_Release_0_2_Out but it seems dead...20:38
usorPedro: Download VLC... you can use Add/Remove20:38
ZombieLeviel: Are you running Samba? Have you joined the Domain?20:38
WisebloodI have a problem regarding drivers and joypads could someone please pm to help me please!20:38
LucaKenSentMe, I mean can GRUB, still load windows?20:38
p512omrj: well, an upgrade from 7.04 to 7.1020:38
IcemanV9Whitor: somewhat yes/no .. it is called thinkfinger20:38
murkyMurkLuca: generally people let the installer write grub to the MBR and it will give you an option to boot vista at reboot20:38
usorpedro: VLC plays everything without you having to worry about codecs20:38
askandsavvas: should I do a chmod 777 you think there is a better solution?20:38
mrjp512o, wouldn't you just apt-get update etc?20:38
LevielZombie: i don't know how?20:38
dryrotLuca: grub will notice your windows install, and provide a menu entry to boot into windows20:38
murkyMurkLuca: yep, works just fine that way20:38
comicinkerVled: of course. But I wouldn't visit a IRC before having a look at the sources I have20:38
WisebloodI have a problem regarding drivers and joypads could someone please pm to help me please!20:38
KenSentMeLuca, yes it can20:38
usorejer: Cool thanks20:38
VletLuca: yep - works fine if you install linux after installing windows. If you install windows after installing linux, windows overwrites GRUB20:38
WisebloodI have a problem regarding drivers and joypads could someone please pm to help me please!20:38
Wisebloodplease someone help20:38
ZombieLeviel: You have to be running Samba first.20:38
KenSentMeWiseblood, just ask your question here20:38
WisebloodI am not a slackass I have seriously looked20:39
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savvasaskand: you should do a: sudo dosfsck /dev/sdb120:39
Wisebloodwell i dont want to ass to the torrent of text20:39
VletWiseblood: If you get no answer, that is likely because no one KNOWS the answer20:39
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gutsyciao ragazzi20:39
Wisebloodbut ok20:39
billzecatOK... third time's the charm, right?  :)20:39
p512omrj, as the repos are so slow, I thought downloading the iso via bittorrent and doing the upgrade "offline" would be faster.. but even this the update-manager (launched from the cd) is downloading loads of packages from the internet20:39
WisebloodI havent asked the question20:39
gutsyi have this problem20:39
seanhHow can I find out what size, in minutes, a blank CD is so that I can use Serpentine? The size is not written on the CD. Thanks20:39
mrjI don't get this, I marked KDE4base for complete removal, yet it has to connect to the repo and REDOWNLOAD kde4base to remove it?20:39
gutsyXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".20:39
gutsydirect rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)20:39
gutsywhy this?20:39
WisebloodI only asked some one to pm me for help with driver20:39
savvasaskand: maybe sudo chown -R would be better to change the owner :)20:39
p512othis way*20:39
gutsybut 3d works20:39
Wisebloods20:39
Wisebloodplus20:40
Wisebloodit is veryembarassing20:40
fracowheres the gnome graphical interface to manage disk mounts (used to be called "Disks")20:40
askandsavvas: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup."20:40
mrjp512o, yeah the repos are ridiculously slow. i've got a broken package and had to connect to it to update my gutsy20:40
VletWiseblood: most people here do not want to do that20:40
LucaSo in vista I can create a new partition from free disk space, then that partition can be used by ubuntu? Or can ubuntu only use unassigned space?20:40
ejermessage me Wiseblood cause i am in a good mood20:40
Wisebloodok fine20:40
codeblue002lgc_, the drive dosnt pick up atall in one of the usb's but lights up on the other, which is strange because anyother time that my drive has light up it works20:40
savvasaskand: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo dosfsck -t /dev/sdb120:40
howlingmadhowieare we now officially the gutsy channel here`20:40
WisebloodI have been looking and looking and I am unable to find a answer that was dumbed down enough for me20:41
WisebloodSo20:41
stray77luca, leave you free space unpartitioned20:41
mrjhowlingmadhowie, ubuntu+1 is gone so I assume so20:41
gutsyXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".20:41
gutsydirect rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)20:41
stray77*your20:41
VletLuca: You don't need to create the partition in vista... just leave some blank space on the drive, and then when installing ubuntu, use that free space20:41
gutsyhelp me please20:41
howlingmadhowiemrj: :) cool20:41
WisebloodI have a joypad and I finally configed it20:41
thyagobrLuca ubuntu handles the unpartitioned space in installation time20:41
murkyMurkLuca: let the ubuntu installer do that. just be sure to know which partition is the blank one20:41
KenSentMeLuca, ubuntu can overwrite a windows partition or use the unassigned space both20:41
Wiseblood(for some reason in /dev it wont save ..??20:41
Instabin|Workhowlingmadhowie:gutsy is a supported version now20:41
gutsyberyl doesn't works on gutsy or it's already installed?20:41
p512omrj, yes indeed. so I thought using the cd would spare me from downloading via repos.. maybe a wrong assumption or my apt system still wants to get the updates I aborted before20:41
ejergutsy: doesn't sound like you have driver installed properly20:41
DUUUUUDEnow how do i run truecrypt in gui?20:41
MmphI have made my linux partitions with windows,,,, I formatted them with NTFS, will this give me a problem with the install? some linux installers will not write over a NTFS partition is why I am askong20:41
stray77gutsy, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager20:41
Instabin|Workgutsy: compiz is installed on gutsy20:41
lgc_codeblue002, sometimes rebooting cures the problems, though purists go against it...20:42
Instabin|Workgutsy: its beter than beryl20:42
ejerDUUUUUDE: it is not really a good GUI, check kgpg instead maybe20:42
gutsycompiz = beryl now?20:42
Instabin|Workgutsy: its compiz-fusion20:42
Wisebloodbut I saved it to my home fold (/usr)20:42
DUUUUUDEarg!20:42
murkyMurkgutsy: compiz-fusion even...bryl died20:42
DUUUUUDEhehe thnx20:42
VletWiseblood: so every time you restart, you have to reinstall the thing?20:42
bobesis there a kde-extragear-addons package for ubuntu?20:42
mrjp512o, I'm not sure the logic behind it. I'm trying to simply REMOVE the broken package (kd4elib) and apparently to do that it wants to redownload the entire package.. so, who knows how logical synaptic is20:42
Wisebloodand when I loaded up snes9x20:42
billzecatOK, this is getting ridiculous... every time I run update-manager and try to upgrade to Gutsy, the requirements go up.  Before it needed 804MB free, now it says it needs 856MB...20:42
GoshaYay, Gutsy totally killed my xorg.conf or something ... Since it barely even starts up.20:42
LucaDont get me wrong I want vista and ubuntu, I have to keep vista. All space of all drives is currently assigned to a windows ntfs partition how do I unassign it?20:42
howlingmadhowiea question: since i updated to gutsy, my ctrl-alt-F1-6 terminals are blank unless i set a lower mode than i did under feisty. what should i search for on ubuntuforums do you think? i can't seem to find anything about it atm20:42
askandsavvas: Hrm what is the command for copying ALL of the files and folders in my homecatalog (including hidden ones) to the external drive?20:42
ejermrj: it needs to know what is in package to uninstall it20:42
Instabin|Workgutsy: no beryl +compiz = compiz-fusion20:42
thyagobrMph cant you erase that NTFS partition and run ubuntu installation?20:42
Wisebloodit finally recognized my cal sett20:42
ejeraskand: cp -Rv /home /backupdisk20:43
notvis this the gutsy channel?20:43
_TeRmInEt_Hi, I've upgraded with gusty, but the fonts are changed?20:43
murkyMurkmrj: that might be a symbolic or meta package...might only want to download bits of it to ensure complete removal20:43
mrjejer, ah, I figured that was it.20:43
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Wisebloodwhich made me smile because on /dev it wouldnt write20:43
IcemanV9notv: yes20:43
mrjgotcha20:43
GoshaFonts are changed? ... :o interesting ...20:43
jburdnotv: Yes, we're all gibbons.20:43
askandejer:  no sudo? what does the v do?20:43
Wisebloodthe js0 file was a constant 0kb file20:43
kritzstapfhow to set the language of kdeapps without installing kcontrol?20:43
Instabin|Workthis channel is rediclous20:43
gutsyok ok i understand20:43
notvdoes anyone know if ati X series cards work now?20:43
Instabin|Workit needs to be split20:43
MikMikA question: Can I install using TEXT-MODE from the REGULAR 7.10 CD (without the live-cd part)?20:43
notvin feisty, there was a bug and the ati x series cards had some issues20:43
mrjIt was split for awhile20:43
ejeraskand: if you can read your home and write to backup no need for sudo. -v means verbose, can be left off20:43
_TeRmInEt_Gosha, it's look different...20:43
Instabin|Workgutsy: do you get what happen with the beryl + compiz20:43
GoshaInstabin|Work: Sad, but true.20:43
notvim wondering if i need the alternate install or not...20:43
Wisebloodis anyone lol listening to me?20:44
gutsyXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"20:44
KenSentMeMikMik, if you use the alternate cd20:44
Wisebloodby any chance?20:44
Gosha_TeRmInEt_: Hmm? ... Oh wait .. So I can't even use my old one? D:20:44
buh /quit20:44
buhexit20:44
Drew777Hello! Where can I find MD5 hashes for the new Gutsy iso?20:44
mrjnotv, I always use the alternate install because I don't need to "test" ubuntus livecd20:44
stray77MD5sums -> http://pastebin.com/m28d5be1d20:44
VletWiseblood: It's hard to when you type in fragments20:44
Wisebloodok20:44
mrjInstalling with the alternate is much better imo20:44
Wisebloodsorru20:44
p512omrj, that sounds a bit weird.. but I must say I'm not yet very familiar with the debian packaging.. been using rpm based distros most of the time.. but a redownload seems senseless, as it's already know what the package consists of20:44
MikMikKenSentMe: I know, but can i use the REGULAR cd for that purpose?20:44
Instabin|Workgosha: 1600 people trying to talk20:44
askand ejer:  Ok I have now umounted it and tried dosfsck again..it still says"There are differences between boot sector and its backup."20:44
avisis the 8500GT video card supported under gutsy live cd ?20:44
_TeRmInEt_Gosha, i would like revert to festy's fonts20:44
ejerWiseblood: i have yet to hear a support question20:44
KenSentMeWiseblood, if you tell us your problem in 1 line and not 10, maybe someone can help you20:44
notvthe alternate comes with no GUI?20:44
VletIt sounds like a complex situation. Have you tried posting to ubuntuforums.org20:44
Gringo_avis: no20:44
gutsyi use ati original driver20:44
Gosha_TeRmInEt_: Oh, you meant the fonts ...20:44
IcemanV9notv: correct20:44
gutsydirect rendering doesn't works20:44
[chr0n0s]gutsy: ati 8.40 ?20:44
ejeraskand: this is not gonna copy a partition, especially not a boot partition20:45
avisGringo_, so to use that card use the alternate cd then use envy ?20:45
GoshaI thought you were talking about xorg.conf, hehe20:45
notvbut i was GUI20:45
KenSentMeMikMik, the regular alternate, yes. The live-cd can't run in text mode20:45
usorHow do I make a password protected zip archive?20:45
notverr20:45
gutsyno on toshiba notebook RV35020:45
alonzo#UBUNTU-FR20:45
notvi want GUI20:45
sorbixmaybe there should be support channels for different types of problems20:45
[chr0n0s]i am having problems with that20:45
gutsyati graphic card20:45
savvasaskand: you must mean: cp -R ~/* /your/destination/folder/20:45
sorbixlike #ubuntu-ati20:45
MikMikok, thanks!20:45
IcemanV9notv: desktop cd is the one you want then20:45
KenSentMeMikMik, no problem20:45
notvbut its a laptop, and the desktop did not work with it on feisty20:45
askand savvas: no im trying to run the "sudo dosfsck /dev/sdb1"20:45
Clearze1Can you run gusty on a 2.6.20-15 kernel?20:45
murkyMurkavis: yes and no. Yes it will show a desktop, no it won't be optimised until it's fullt installed and you enable the restricted drivers option for nvidia cards20:45
notvill just mess with the alternate disk20:45
Vletnotv: you want a gui installer, but you can't boot from the standard install cd?20:45
ejeraskand: why r u doing that20:45
Michael001I found a blank cd and I wasted it20:46
fietefor some reason the DefaultDepth-switch in xorg.conf doesn't work any more. Any ideas how I can 16 bit color depth?20:46
IcemanV9notv: it will work on laptop and desktop, however if you have a problem, then alternate cd is the BEST to use20:46
askandejer: I was told to do so..I guess its somekind of ceck?20:46
sebastesfiete: What driver are you using?20:46
askandcheck*20:46
GoshaIt's a good thing I knew of, and had installed irssi .. Or I would've been totally lost now, heh.20:46
Sp0tUbHi! Can someone help me? I have a 500Gb USB disk (NTFS) but Ubuntu cant mount it, why??20:46
fietesebastes: ati20:46
ejeraskand: sounds dangerous to me20:46
avismurkyMurk, ahh ok so i it will work in gutsy after enabling restricted drivers ?  i'm guessing that can't be done from the live cd  ?20:46
mrjHave any of you successfully converted the ubuntu to a DVD iso and burned it and had the install go fine?20:46
notvvlet im just wondering if my ati card  will work out of the box on gutsy, when it did not in feisty20:46
sebastesfiete: The restricted river only works in 24-bit mode20:46
newguyhey what is the "Tracker Search Tool" and "indexing preferences" for?20:46
The_Joe_I'm on a RealTek HD, I only get sound through my headphones, I'm on an Acer Aspire 3050 and I have no idea what's going on20:46
askandejer: oh ok..then I dont20:46
Michael001Unetbootin says it cant find ubuntu 7.10 on the us mirror20:46
thyagobrSp0tUb how are you trying to mount it20:47
Clearze1fiete: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the color depth setting under the screen section20:47
Bill-Goldberghi , the upgrade stucked in the middile of upgrade/install of update-manager. now everything is messed up is there an option to continue/restart upgrade ?20:47
MmphSp0tUb, tell your bios to  boot from USB20:47
fietesebastes: this is the open source one20:47
praecoxhello everyone20:47
gutsyi have ati driver installed from restricted driver20:47
kena123I'm installing Gutsy now, and it's stuck at "Scanning the mirror... (82%)". I'm assuming the mirror is incredibly slow right now and I should just wait?20:47
Sp0tUbthyagobr Just connect it20:47
murkyMurkavis: yep, all nvidia cards are supported through the nvidia driver20:47
Instabin|Workgutsy: I have the nvidia restricted driver...20:47
Kal1hello20:47
avisthank you murkyMurk20:47
Sp0tUbMmph But its not the system disk, only storage20:47
newguyhey what is the "Tracker Search Tool" and "indexing preferences" for?20:47
fieteClearze1: I already changed this value without effect20:47
thyagobrSp0tUb you can try to mount it with command line through the terminal20:47
zizzihelp20:47
Mmphoh sorry about that20:48
praecoxI downloaded alternate CD for 7.10 booted it on my HP 6015b and after choosing any options from welcome screen, screen turns black and nothing happens.20:48
praecoxany ideas?20:48
Vlet!ask zizzi20:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask zizzi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:48
Boumboum5zizzi: tell us what you need? :)20:48
Clearze1fiete: Then I wouldn't know sorry.20:48
The_Joe_Anyone?20:48
mrjpraecox, run the CD check on it20:48
Kal1how do i make a program open into a specific desktop in the start up20:48
askandejer: cp -Rv /home /backupdisk, does that really copy all hidden files to?20:48
mrjpraecox, it's the last option I believe20:48
stray77gutsy, read this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/20:48
newguy!tracker20:48
ubotuServices to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)20:48
praecoxmrj, tried as well20:48
WisebloodI finally got the snes9x to recognize my joystick settings and device. But I started SNES9x up and it said need new drivers now here is the shameful part.....  I dont know precisely how to install the drivers (I DID find the drivers however) I get confused because I am a complete idoit (beginner) and command line scares me.... :(  laymans terms what precisely do i type line by line plz... :(20:48
Sp0tUbthyagobr Connect the disc and then type the command? And how do i find out the command? Im prette new to linux :-)20:48
Gosha... What is this new screen-config app called?20:48
Boumboum5The_Joe: I don't know. :( sounds like it might be a driver issue...but I'm still new to Ubuntu.20:48
newguy!index prefrences20:48
praecoxmrj, but it turns black after choosing this option as well.20:48
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act1v8praecox: Are you on A Laptop?20:48
mrjpraecox, reburn it at a much slower speed20:48
newguy!index20:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about index - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:48
praecoxact1v8, yes20:48
DUUUUUDEkgpg is much better with gui, thnx :)20:48
WisebloodI did search but it wsa so confusing20:49
praecoxmrj, ok, can try.20:49
sebasteshrm, tracker must be getting hammered I'm getting timed out.20:49
arghh2d2everybody freeakin out man!     gutsy mania mannnn!20:49
kena123sebastes: it comes up and goes down. retry every few minutes :-)20:49
nex1thanks to the guy who told me to install xgl server, works smoothly20:49
sorbixi got gutsy a few days ago, but how come i dont have any update notificatiosn today?20:49
Wisebloodvlet you there?20:49
sorbixshouldnt i have them?20:49
_TeRmInEt_Can I revert gusty's fonts ?20:49
act1v8praecox: well... you can try adding this to the Section "Device" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file: Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO"20:49
VletWiseblood: There isn't really any way for us to give you line by line instructions here. That's like asking a mechanic to describe how to fix your car over the phone.... One has to look at the object in question in order to diagnoze the problem20:49
darrenis there any reason totem-xine wont playback media but totem-gstreamer will?20:50
Sp0tUbthyagobr Connect the disc and then type the command? And how do i find out the command? Im prette new to linux :-)20:50
Evanlecsorbix, i dont have any either, my guess is cuz the servers are jammed20:50
arghh2d2when does gutsy 7.10.1 come out?20:50
Clearze1Can you run gusty on a earlier kernel than the kernel that is installed by default?20:50
nex1next question - How do i controll the cube with my laptop? IE: doesnt have a mousebutton 320:50
sorbixEvanlec, ok, at least im not alone :)\20:50
Wisebloodwell20:50
Instabin|Workarghh2d2: today it came out20:50
murkyMurkWiseblood: wouldn't the best place to ask be the snes9x forum?20:50
act1v8praecox: But I don't suggest doing that unless you know how to edit that file20:50
VletIf you ask specific questions, we can try to answer them20:50
darrenis there any reason totem-xine wont playback media but totem-gstreamer will?20:50
trezSomeone know where I can get more information on "NET: Registered  protocol family 17"? Seems to be a source of Kernel Oops for me :)20:50
marx2k_man...how do I use a mirror for dist upgrades?20:50
Wisebloodthey use technical temrs when trying to explain and diagnose the prob20:50
arghh2d27.10.1 is out already??20:50
* N3bunel away20:50
lgc_How do I restart ALSA from the command line? Thanks.20:50
Evanlecnex1, default is ctrl+alt+left-drag20:50
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Instabin|Workarghh2d2: no 7.1020:50
lgc_!alsa20:50
Gosha!swedish20:50
awaywhat?20:50
Wiseblooddid20:50
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:50
act1v8praecox: are you registered with Freenode, so I can give you better instructions?20:50
Wiseblooddead20:50
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se20:50
Clearze1nex1: in the ccsm there is a plugin called viewport switcher. You can change it to anything you like.20:51
arghh2d2ok, i'll wait for the world to find all the bugs and use the resulting patches20:51
Instabin|Workarghh2d2: next is 8.0420:51
kena123I'm installing Gutsy now, and it's stuck at "Scanning the mirror... (82%)". I'm assuming the mirror is incredibly slow right now and I should just wait?20:51
pedroi use linux that is alocated in my vmware. how can i have acess to my music that is in the Windows?20:51
VletWiseblood: it's a technical thing you're trying to do though20:51
askandWhat command do I use to copy all files and folders in my homefolder (including hidden & underlying) to my backupdrive?20:51
dogwatercurses @ kickstart20:51
nex1thanks, i will try :-)20:51
stray77im glad i got all my audio and video codecs installed WITHOUT using automatix2.20:51
Wisebloodya20:51
darrencan someone help me get totem-xine to playback video files?20:51
Evanlecarghh2d2, the version system doesnt work like that, 7.10 will be 7.10 until 8.3 comes out, 7.10 means 2007 10th month, october20:51
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[chr0n0s]anyone having luck with ATi prop drivers on gutsy ??20:52
Wisebloodok20:52
[chr0n0s]i cannot fix it20:52
Mmphpedro, install the VMware tools, then just drag your music over the VMware window and drop it20:52
billzecataskand: cp -Rv ~ /media/whatever_mount_point_your_backup_drive_uses20:52
r0b-how long should it take to scan the mirrors upon installing UBuntu 7.1020:52
stray77darren, just try to play a file, if youre missing the codec, it will prompt you to download them20:52
r0b-nvm20:52
r0b-:)20:52
darrenchr0n0s you still have to blacklist to get fglrx to work20:52
murkyMurklgc_: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart i think20:52
lordlucanI'm having a problem with the internet with 7.10 its very slugggish!20:52
billytwowilly is it possible to change the port that is audio out on the sound card?20:52
geniiClearze1: What kernel were you thinking of compiling it with?20:52
Clearze1askand: rsync -urP /home/folder/ /destination/directory or /home/folder user@192.xxx.x.x:/destination/directory20:52
Wisebloodwhat would i enter to install a driver (I know that is quite broad but what is the best idea for the command)20:52
kena123r0b-: haha, mine just finished doing that too20:52
[chr0n0s]darren, what u mean by that ?20:52
ramontried installing gutsy today from desktop-1386 iso, won't boot. wrote 3 different cds using 3 different programs, checked md5. written cd will not even mount, but mount -loop works on iso?20:52
darrenstray77, it doesn't seem to attempt to do anything, it just sits there. doesn't ask for a codec either :(20:52
arghh2d2Evanlec: ahh, i see... well i'm sure there will be alot of updates and forum help being written in the next month.20:52
murkyMurklordlucan: yes it is, mashed and loaded20:53
hyper_b0leAnyone got the 3D cube working?20:53
lordlucanmashed and loaded?20:53
howlingmadhowieproblem probably solved :)20:53
Clearze1genii: 2.6.20.15-generic20:53
Evanlecarghh2d2, updates are released almost constantly throughout a versions lifespan...20:53
seanhI just connected an external CD/DVD writer to my laptop via USB. It is detected correctly by Linux, I put a blank disc in and it reads it okay. But the CD burning apps don't show this external as an option to burn with, and in Hardware Information it's capabilities are listed as storage, block, storage.cdrom. Anything I can do?20:53
stray77darren, all i did was try to play an xvid file and followed the prompts20:53
Instabin|WorkMAN I SEE A BUNCH OF STUPIED QUESTIONS.... LIKE HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE... WHEN DOES THIS HAPPEN...20:53
Charlottehey guys do u know some a;ternative to mathtype for linux (ubuntu)20:53
marx2k_If I downloaded the Gutsy CD, can I use the ISo to do a dist upgrade on my box?20:53
billzecatInstabin: Welcome to release day.20:53
darrenstray77, it doesn't seem to prompt me anymore. it just doesn't attempt anything :/20:53
fubzguys, i accidently deleted /usr/share/local/* when i thought i was deleting stuff from /usr/local/share/20:54
david_n20:54
Instabin|WorkBILLZECAT: I had 7.10 installed since tribe 3 .... I want my ubuntu+1 channel back...20:54
lordlucanWell I know it sounds stupid but the internet isn't working well with 7.10 but I'm having no problems in XP20:54
fubzcan someome tell me what packages own those files so i can reinstall them pls?20:54
r0b-kena123 u installing Gutsy to?20:54
fietesebastes: ok, apperently there is a glitch in the compiz wrapper. the max texture size check seems faulty20:54
IcemanV9marx2k_: yes, you can do that way20:54
geniiClearze1: I'm not sure how much/many of the apps depend on >2.6.20   2.6.22 seems default now20:54
fietesebastes: works for me now :-)20:54
WisebloodANYOINE HAVE PR0N WAREZ SOURCE PLOX!!!20:54
hyper_b0leAnyone tried to get the 3D cube working in compiz?20:54
kena123r0b-: yeah. it took longer to scan mirrors than it did to do the rest of the install before it >.> it's done with that and now just finishing up20:55
darrenis there a vlc media player plugin for firefox?20:55
VletWiseblood: That'll get ya booted20:55
marx2k_IcemanV9: Do you knopw how?20:55
Charlottehow to enable multimedia in gutsy???20:55
skarfacedarren: mozilla-plugin-vlc20:55
Evanlec!caps | Wiseblood Instabin20:55
ubotuWiseblood Instabin: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.20:55
r0b-alright now to REBOOT120:55
r0b-bbl20:55
stray77hyper_b0le , read this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/20:55
darrenskarface thankyou :)20:55
Vletdarren: mozilla-plugin-vlc20:55
Clearze1genii: My lightscribe doesn't work properly with that kernel and my sound won' t either. So I guess I'll stay with feisty.20:55
hyper_b0leThanks stray77 nice to get an answer sometimes, heh20:56
IcemanV9marx2k_: just throw in CD and Ubuntu will ask you if you want to upgrade or not. :)20:56
fubzsomeone pls tell me whats in /usr/share/locale and what package owns those files20:56
askanddarren: yes20:56
CarlFKis there a way to throttle eth0?  like to 2mb/s ?20:56
l_ris the 64bit version faster than the 32bit?20:56
Instabin|WorkEvanlec: I was trying to SHOUT my one sentence....20:56
marx2k_Iceman: awesome20:56
Instabin|WorkEvanlec: I did it on purpose...20:56
EvanlecInstabin, right but ur just adding to the chaos here20:56
LucaI have an amd 64 older 3000+ you recomend x64 version or x86?20:57
Evanlecl_r, in general there's an overall roughly 5% speed gain, otherwise its very application dependant20:57
Clearze1CarlFK: yes, iptables could throttle certain ports/traffic. You may be able to set a threshold with the rate command in ifconfig.20:57
Woodersonhow do i remote connect to my other computer?20:57
geniiClearze1: Ah, OK. If the source is available for the linux lightscribe app you could just try compiling that only. The soundcard could be a bit more problemmatic20:57
EvanlecLuca, there's really no reason not to run x64 in my opinion....20:57
Instabin|WorkEvanlec: by insuating that ppl didnt need to ask how long or when?20:57
VletWooderson: Is your other computer running ubuntu20:57
CarlFKLuca: x64 will be 'better' but more hassle because less pacages20:57
Woodersonyes it is20:57
stray77Luca, if you want 32bit application support, stick with i386, if you want all the speed and power, use amd6420:57
murkyMurkl_r in theory yes but you won't notice..stick with 32bit for compatibility reasosn20:58
Woodersoni turned on all the options too20:58
[chr0n0s]!ati20:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:58
hyper_b0lestray77: thanks for the link solved my problem much appreciated.20:58
fubzsomeone?20:58
Clearze1genii: Yeah, I think I may have to spend a few days working things out for myself before I attempt to upgrade. Oh well.20:58
VletWooderson: I prefer this way: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/20:58
Evanlecyes but x64 can still run 32bit apps no problem, so i dont see why everyone says stay with 32bit20:58
Woodersonok1 sec dont go no where20:58
Wooderson:P20:58
stiev3what's the difference between sperate X screen and twinview?20:58
ouroborouswhere can i ask for help for a bizarre gnome issue?  (only occurred after installing/uninstalling compiz)20:58
stray77hyper_b0le, no prob. Send everyone there that asks about the cube etc...20:58
Evanlecjust because the OS is 64-bit doesnt mean it cant run 32bit apps...20:58
pramzEvanlec, quite a lot of fudging to get certain 32bit apps working, primarily games on wine and flash20:58
pramzbutthats about it20:58
blue42evanlec: what is the effort level for say, installing 32-bit wine on amd64?20:58
Dr_willisstiev3,  twinview is one 'huge' screen spanning several monitors.20:59
Instabin|WorkEvanlec: does 64bit have adobe flash player now?20:59
Dr_willisstiev3,  other way has a x session on each monitor.20:59
Evanlecblue42, i did sudo apt-get install wine and...thats about it20:59
Clearze1stiev3: twinview is an extended desktop and seperate x would be a double x session20:59
pramzno native adobe flash 64bit yet20:59
EvanlecInstabin, yep20:59
mrj1d 9hrs 11m to download this package i need before I can update my gibbon..lol20:59
pramzyou can run it in 32bit firefox under 64bit linux20:59
Dr_willisIm using Twinview right now.20:59
murkyMurkfubz: system loaclisation files owned by root...some i18 package probably20:59
stiev3Dr_willis, what would be the primary purpose of 2 x sessions?20:59
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Evanlecpramz, actually there's a painless flash install for 64-bit firefox now20:59
Instabin|WorkEvanlec: I must have missed that ....20:59
blue42evanlec: oh, ok.  I was just wondering cuz the ubuntu help pages still mention a need for a chroot to isntall 32bit apps21:00
Masticore-How do I config Compiz Fusion?21:00
fubzmurkyMurk, i need to know what package21:00
pramzEvanlec, using Adobe flash or gnash ?21:00
mrjapt-get install compiz-manager21:00
Eltornadohi please some can help me to change the desktop default icon alignement to right21:00
mrji think21:00
askandMasticore-: with21:00
Dr_willisstiev3,  in theory one could have several users with seperate keyboards/mice  all on a single box.21:00
Clearze1stiev3: if you are controlling more than 1 linux system at once.21:00
Evanlecpramz, flash...21:00
pramzEvanlec, url ?21:00
warblerdoesn't matter what settings I use - the screensaver kicks in after ten minutes21:00
Dr_willisstiev3,  or Run somthing like MythTV or other app on a 2nd display21:00
hyper_b0lestray77 will do :) , possibly worth it getting a mention in the topic I imagine a few people might have the same question.21:00
Evanlecpramz, check ubuntu forums, x64 section21:00
darrencan someone explain to me why i get choppy video playback compared with windows?21:00
zcode_I'm using 7.10 RC1, can I update to 7.10 release?21:01
bch_wonder how long the sources will be slow21:01
Bonaldo2000Question: if I supplied the irqpoll option when I install ubuntu (I thought I had a problem that it might would be able to solve but didnt) will the effects of the irqpoll option remain in the system after installation even though I no longer has it in my boot parameter list?21:01
billzecatOK... I'm looking for advice.  My /boot partition is 89M, but the installer needs 120M.  Short of wiping everything out and repartitioning, do I have any options?21:01
ouroborousanyone know why "user switcher" panel would keep dying repeatedly after installing/removing xgl?21:01
askandzcode_:  If you use updatemanager you have final21:01
nex1This is probably the best linux desktop distro to date21:01
Dekkardcool.. I'm seeding at 80 kb up21:01
jburdCan one upgrade from the distribution DVD/CD?21:01
zcode_askand: I see..  Thanks21:01
askandjburd:  yes I think it will tell you if you insert it21:02
LucaIf i get the x64 it will still be able to boot my 32bit vista?21:02
zcode_askand: It's downloading package 1 of 11421:02
Flatshow do I rescan for my wireless network card21:02
zcode_slowly21:02
jburdaskand: That's nice.  :-)21:02
Clearze1Flats: iwconfig21:02
OM1136i did apt-cdrom add, it did, what do I do to complete the upgrde to 7.10?21:02
WoodersonVlet: which computer and im supposed to do this on? my server or this one?21:02
askandzcode_:  good luck and enjoy final :)21:02
stiev3ah I get it now, thanks Dr_willis etc...21:03
stray77luca, one has nothing to do with the other21:03
hwildeis nvidia-glx going to support the 8600GT line ?21:03
Flatshmmm and if it doesn't find it?21:03
VletWooderson: the server. To connect to it, you just use the 'Terminal Server Client' which you should already have installed21:03
lgc_murkyMurk, thanks.21:03
Woodersonah ok21:03
Evanlecblue42, that is not my understanding at this time21:03
CryoniqFinaly I have restriced driver for ATI enabled.. but.. next to it, it says Not in use.. so.. how do I get fglrx etc and so on to be used by my ati9800pro?21:04
fubzanyone running gutsy may i please ask you a question21:04
OM1136i did apt-cdrom add, it did, what do I do to complete the upgrade to 7.10?21:04
usorHow do I make a folder I don't have permission to write to, writeable so that I can say drag a folder to it?[21:04
hwilde!gutsy | fubz21:04
ubotufubz: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents21:04
Cryoniqunder Gusty that is21:04
Evanlec!ask | fubz21:04
ubotufubz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)21:04
fubzok21:04
hwildeusor, sudo chmod +r folder21:04
greencookieIcemanV9: hey:)21:04
_gpg_is it possible to change ubuntu icon and use the original gnome one in the panel please ?21:04
fubzdo you have anything in /usr/share/locale?21:04
usorhwilde: Thanks21:04
Evanlecusor, sudo chmod a+rw /folder21:04
greencookieis there a better broswer than firefox?21:05
jamiliso...21:05
Vletfubz: I have lots of stuff - a folder for each locale21:05
jamilihas grub been updated since 6.10?21:05
calcgreencookie: lynx21:05
zcode_Does anyone a torrent for 7.10 server?21:05
zcode_x8621:05
Vletgreencookie: is there a better color than green?21:05
greencookiecalc:  lol21:05
Clearze1greencookie: I dunno if it's "better" but you could try opera21:05
Bonaldo2000Question: if I supplied the irqpoll option when I install ubuntu (I thought I had a problem that it might would be able to solve but didnt) will the effects of the irqpoll option remain in the system after installation even though I no longer has it in my boot parameter list?21:05
greencookieVlet: offcourse not:)21:05
calcgreencookie: :)21:05
buchiachhi, I am installing Ubuntu 7.10 for the first time, and I want to dual boot with xp...will installing from the disc have it setup automatically or will i need to do anythign extra?21:05
greencookieClearze1: hmm ok21:05
martoya zcode_: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-server-i386.iso.torrent21:05
greencookiecalc: the reason im asking is cuz firefox hangs too often in my Fiesty21:06
zcode_Thanks martoya21:06
MmphIguess it is better than red cookie :p21:06
Instabin|Workcalc: nice reply but blue is beter :P21:06
darrenwhenever i try and stream media with the vlc plugin firefox closes?21:06
calcgreencookie: gutsy is out now, it might be better on it21:06
nicholaszcode_: http://ubuntu.hosting.spherelinx.com/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent21:06
Flatsanyone have the intel pro/wireless 3945ABG adapter?21:06
greencookiecalc: FYI I did try lynx but i failed:)21:06
CryoniqWhat does it mean when aticonfig --intitial result in a coredump?21:06
calcFlats: yes21:06
Vletbuchiach: Well, it will INSTALL it, but there's always personalization, and depending on your computer, some work maye be required to get things working right21:06
FlatsDoes it work?21:06
Clearze1greencookie: lynx is painful to use21:06
Charlotteis skype 1.4 work with gutsy  or not yet???21:06
greencookiehow do i install Gutsy?21:06
Evanlecbuchiach, just boot up from the cd and run the installer..it should setup dual-boot for you automatically21:06
greencookieClearze1: So I agree.21:06
calcFlats: yes, it works for me on gutsy21:06
Lucahow much faster in % would 64bit version be?21:06
Lucamore than 105?21:06
mc44!install | greencookie21:06
askand buchiach: Not entirely automatic...You need to partitionate your harddrive (If you dont have two harddrives?)21:06
ubotugreencookie: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate21:06
Luca10%21:07
Instabin|Workgreencookie: with a cd21:07
calcLuca: probably 5-10%21:07
stray77greencookie, download the iso, burn the image and boot your computer from the cd21:07
Flatshmm I have 7.10 dunno names yet21:07
calcLuca: some slower and some faster21:07
buchiachok thanks Evanlec and Vlet21:07
EvanlecLuca, its about 5-10% overalll like he said, some apps can be up to 60% faster21:07
Lucameh not worth it21:07
greencookiethnx stray7721:07
Bill-Goldbergis their a way to reupgrade ?21:07
citronbleu-vj'ai la version beta de la 7.10 (il y aura une mise à jour ou pas ?21:07
* Luca downloads i38621:07
DerDritte|HappyI installed the kubuntu-desktop package with aptitude, will feisty->gutsy upgrade that package as well? (As I installed ubuntu first, it seemed the right choice to upgrade)...21:07
DerDritte|Happy*?21:07
calcLuca: iirc ogg encoder was a lot faster, but some are slower21:07
askandBill-Goldberg: reupgrade?21:07
pedroi ve pasted the mp3 files from windows to linux that is alocated in vmware. where can i found these mp3 files?21:07
Charlottehey how do u guys install skye on gutsy???21:07
EvanlecLuca, if i were u i'd give ti a shot...the only way ppl are going to move to 64-bit is if they start using it!@!21:07
greencookie!fr | citronbleu-v21:07
ubotucitronbleu-v: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.21:07
Clearze1Is there a ubuntu Mobile distro?21:07
Bill-Goldbergi upgraded and it stucked and now everything is messed up.21:07
Charlotteskype**21:07
jburdcitronbleu-v: #ubuntu-fr21:07
DavyDeagleanyone having issues with the repositories?21:07
Bill-Goldbergso i want to reupgrade21:07
askandCharlotte: I download the deb from skypes webpage21:08
ejerCharlotte: download it from skype.com21:08
citronbleu-vsory,21:08
stray77DavyDeagle, ya they are all real slow21:08
_gpg_is it possible to put gnome icon instead of the one (ubuntu) near Application please ?21:08
Charlottethanx21:08
DavyDeaglek thanx21:08
martoyaDavyDeagle: many people have problems today, be patient21:08
DavyDeagleyea np21:08
f0rgeIf`I got a problem when installing screenlets. When i do a screenletsd add Control in my shell I get this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41120/plain/21:08
pedroi ve pasted the mp3 files from windows to linux that is alocated in vmware. where can i find these mp3 files?21:08
DerDritte|Happylol, /me upgrading at ~70 kb/s...21:08
Vlet_gpg_: that's based on your theme as far as I know21:08
DavyDeaglelucky21:08
DavyDeagleim at 14k/s21:08
_gpg_Vlet ok  ty21:09
zcode_nicholas: Thanks for thel ink21:09
jburdLucky.21:09
jburdI'm at ... failed.21:09
greencookiehow do i uninstall firefox and then reinstall it?:D21:09
Dr_willispedro,  pasted?  i always trasfer stuff with the network neighborhood/samba stuff.21:09
zcode_nicholas: I'm looking for the PS3 link as welll... if you have it, please!!!!21:09
ARJoneshow do you turn off the little balloons that popup when you hover over things such as "show desktop", it pops up and tells you what the button does21:09
Dr_willisgreencookie,  why do you THINK you need todo that?21:09
Bankerhmm21:09
OM1136i did apt-cdrom add, it did, what do I do to complete the upgrade to 7.10?21:09
nicholaszcode_: haven't seen it :-(21:09
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Sp0tUbHow do i get in "SUPERUSER" mode in Ubuntu?21:09
stray77greencookie, same question as Dr_willis21:09
alonzo#ubuntu-fr21:09
greencookieDr_willis: Cuz my firefox hangs too frequently21:09
Evanlec!sudo | Sp0tUb21:10
WhitorSp0tUb: sudo command21:10
ubotuSp0tUb: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.21:10
zcode_nicholas: That's fine... I can wait.21:10
greencookieand I have to force quit it.:(21:10
pedrodr wills how can i manage that! i don t know what that is?21:10
mindspringswitched cablemodem providers21:10
zcode_nicholas, thanks anyway21:10
Dr_willisSp0tUb,  learn to use Sudo, and its variants21:10
ouroborousever since uninstalling xgl, i have to manually startx to get gnome to run for my user account.  i'm a noob... what did I break?  it works when I manually run startx (although user switcher dies), but if i don't run startx the ui startup just dumps back to console21:10
ejergreencookie: to wipe all firefox settings and start as if u reinstalled, do a rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox21:10
mindspringwent from rcn to time warner, upload speed is slower but connection is ROCK SOLID21:10
greencookieejer: thanks21:10
ejergreencookie: but you will lose ALL FF configs like bookmarks etc21:10
Dr_willispedro,  i have NO idea what you mean by 'paste' either..   Samba is how you 'share' folders with windows machines.21:10
Dr_willis!samba21:10
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT21:10
Forssen85How do I turn on 3d effects?21:10
greencookieejer: its OK. I got delicious:)21:10
pramzouroborous, afaik with Xgl you have to run a secondary X server, in gdmsetup you should be able to set what default X server comes up. At least thats what I had to do when I used XGL last which was nearly a year ago21:11
Sp0tUbBut.. Im logged in as a normal user, admin, but i want to mount a NTFS external harddrive, but im not allowed, what to do?21:11
calcForssen85: system->preferences->appearance21:11
f0rgeIf`I got a problem when installing screenlets. When i do a screenletsd add Control in my shell I get this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41120/plain/21:11
stray77Forssen85, read this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/21:11
calcForssen85: select visual effect tab21:11
Forssen85Is the cube-desktop removed in this version??21:11
mc44Forssen85: no21:11
stray77Forssen85, read this page -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/21:11
EvanlecSp0tUb, do 'sudo mount <device> <target>'21:11
Forssen85Ok.21:11
flithmhey everyone... is it possible to "burn" the live cd to a usb drive and use it as the install media (assuming my machine can boot from usb)?21:11
wamtycan someone help me with this error please http://pastebin.com/m5625cdc2? I just upgrade from Ubuntu fiesty to Gusty  and got this error21:11
greencookieMy next problem : when I try using fglrx driver on my Fiesty (amd 64) X crashes. any ideas?21:11
darrenwhat is the xine plugin for firefox called?21:11
pedroDr willis i had copy the mp3  and pasted one vmware program21:12
Forssen85stray77: : tnx21:12
mc44flithm: should be21:12
zcode_nicholas, I found it here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/21:12
bori17.10 rocks!21:12
flithmmc44: would I just dd the iso to the drive?21:12
Vletdarren: Yeah, I wasn't having luck with the vlc mozilla plugin either... just installed mplayer and the mplayer mozilla plugin, and now stage6 stuff is working nicely21:12
mc44darich: xine-plugin21:12
ouroborouspramz:  okay I'm retarded, because gdmsetup says i'm not running gnome.  yet i'm in gnome.  hmm...21:12
Sp0tUbEvanlec Maybe asking stupid, but where do i see what device it is and the target? :-)21:12
wamty?21:12
DavyDeagleok question here, installed, grub is not installing to boot drive, /dev/sda but rather /dav/hda21:13
ace1hello everyone21:13
EvanlecSp0tUb, the target is just whatever directory u want to mount it to, such as /media/disk, to find the device try 'sudo fdisk -l'21:13
Dr_willispedro,  you selected a file under gnome, and used 'copy' then clicked on the vmware session and used windows 'paste' ?21:13
DavyDeagleif i have vista on /dev/sda is it safe to chaneg it21:13
Dr_willispedro,  im not sure that even works. :)21:13
greencookieDavyDeagle: I dont think so:)21:13
Charlottehey guys i have a small problem21:13
Charlotte:(21:13
DavyDeaglelol21:13
pedrono21:13
askandForssen85: System-settings-looks21:13
mc44flithm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick21:13
pramzouroborous, under security tab, click on configure X server21:13
greencookie!wpa21:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:13
ace1anyone have any experience with madwifi-ng?21:13
Sp0tUbEvanlec sudo fdisk -l ?21:13
flithmmc44: thanks!21:13
ejerace1: yup21:14
TSNSDIs there anyway in an ubuntu kickstart file to make the installer not check for security updates during install? I get a popup asking for a proxy server then later a popup with an error dialogue since my machines are behind a firewall21:14
pedroi had copied the files from windows and pasted on vmware21:14
EvanlecSp0tUb, correct21:14
NitecatCharlotte: what's your problem?21:14
Sp0tUbEvanlec thx :-)21:14
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EvanlecTSNSD, mine wouldnt detect my wireless card during install, but it still installed no problem21:14
Bill-Goldberghow can i make my /home is own partition ?21:14
wamtyguys?21:15
Charlottemy gr-card is Nvidia 7200 go and im using restricted drivers for it (Gutsy :)  ) but my resolution is 1024x768 on 50hz21:15
wamtycan someone help me with this error please http://pastebin.com/m5625cdc2? I just upgrade from Ubuntu fiesty to Gusty  and got this error21:15
Evanlecpedro, but where did u paste them?21:15
Evanlec!video | Charlotte21:15
ubotuCharlotte: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications21:15
Evanlecoops21:15
Dr_willispedro,  Not sure if you can cut/paste files  that way. Go ask in #vmware perhaps - ive never tried it that way21:15
r0b-why are the servers slow at downloading?21:15
Evanlec!resolution | Charlotte21:15
ubotuCharlotte: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto21:15
greencookieis Gutsy better than Fiesty?21:15
TSNSDEvanlec: It installs fine, I am using a kickstart file though that needs to be automated so that I dont get those popups due to the security updater check during install21:15
vondererhi there. have some problems with fluxbox21:15
jimKind of an emergency here...  In the middle of Distupgrade from 7.04 to 7.10  It is hung right now at 'Setting up CFS'  Any help?21:15
Dr_willisgreencookie,  yes.. happy? :)21:15
Evanlecgreencookie, arguably yes21:15
pedroi don t know where is it21:15
ejerr0b-: cause everyone is doing what u r doing21:15
ddonkywhats the offtopic room name?21:15
Charlotteim traing to change ot to 1280x1024 on 60hz without any luck21:16
greencookieAh! I'm downloading the isO:)21:16
pedroi just dragged with mouse to vmware21:16
Dr_willispedro,  it would be in the foloder you had selected when you used paste. i imagine.21:16
stray77before i try to install gutsy on my asus p5w-dh raid 10 array, Im wondering if anyone has had any success. i know 7.04 wouldnt see the array.21:16
geniiClearze1:There seems to be a generic 2.6.X  deb here http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~1j16cu21:16
Evanlec!resolution | Charlotte21:16
ubotuCharlotte: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto21:16
lomezhi, question, when i wine utorrent, it wont let me pull up the window. is there an ubuntu torrent client that allows encryption?21:16
NitecatCharlotte: Have you looked at your xorg.conf file?21:16
pedroi just dragged with mouse to vmware but i dont  do a clue where are the files21:16
Dr_willispedro,   try it again, draging to a empty folder.21:16
Corolahi there.Can someone tell me if there is a howto which explains the installation of the nvidia driver on ubuntu?(i mean the drive which can be downloaded on the nvidia site)21:16
ddonky!offtopic21:16
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!21:16
sebasteslomez: Deluge maybe?21:16
r0b-im getting irritated with these slow servers :P21:17
nerdygirl_ellieMy gnome-panel is using 1.7GB of Ram.21:17
r0b-but i need my packages21:17
ace1anyone know why kismet would previously work, but when i restarted i can't get it to run again? it appears madwifi-ng (or kismet?) is trying to use madwif_g but i set it as b in kismet.conf. I'm sure i fiddled with something to mess this up, i was fiddling with airodump, got that working then wanted to go back to kismet but i cannot get it to run again. I read that possible i need the newest madwifi-ng (i'm on 7.04 ubuntu) but those articles21:17
Charlottethnax ubuntu (kiss) i will start reading and we will see how it goes21:17
Evanlec!nvidia | Corola21:17
ubotuCorola: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:17
Nitecatman the ubuntu site is slammed today... never gonna get my debs :(21:17
fkumrolomez,  Deluge is what I use21:17
Vlet nerdygirl_ellie: sure that's not MB?21:17
Mmphr0b- you should ask for a refund :p21:17
lomezfkmuro, it has encryption?21:17
r0b-Nitecat: dont feel bad21:17
Sp0tUbEvanlec still here?21:17
sebasteslomez: Yep21:17
EvanlecMmph, LOL21:17
fkumrolomez, Yes21:17
Corola!nvidia21:17
lomezthanks man21:17
r0b-I DEMAND XCHAT!!!!!21:17
EvanlecSp0tUb, yep..21:17
fkumrolomez, np21:17
stray77Mmph, lol.21:18
r0b-untill then i gotta use Pidgin21:18
r0b-:(21:18
dryrotare those package servers really round-robining ?21:18
humboltobulletproveX is broken for nvidia go cards!21:18
Sp0tUbEvanlec Dosent work, it says i have to force it21:18
DavyDeaglewhy cant u get xchat yet21:18
Evanlecr0b-, should be able to just grab the .deb from xchat.org21:18
r0b-0% [Waiting for headers]21:18
nerdygirl_ellieVlet: Yes, I'm sure.  I'm very very patiently waiting on the gnome-panel-dbg package to come down so I can backtrace it.21:18
Sp0tUbEvanlec Whats the risc?21:18
Charlotteno how to edit and what exactly to edit xorg.conf file21:18
DavyDeagleoh nm21:18
r0b-i did but im waiting for dependencies to download :P21:18
EvanlecSp0tUb, what are u trying to do?21:18
NitecatCharlotte: If you still don't get working come back and let us know.  It's a pretty routine conf problem.21:18
pedroi ve already copied and now how can acess these file with linux?21:18
ubuntu_Quick question21:18
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DavyDeagler0b: im tryin to get Ati drivers for the past hour21:18
ouroborousokay that explains it... ps -ef confirms i'm not running gdm.  what the hell dm am I running... sure wish i understood x better :-|21:18
r0b-wow21:19
LarepMy font are ugly! -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565812&highlight=ugly+fonts21:19
Sp0tUbEvanlec Im trying to mount my 500Gb External harddriva for storage space :-)21:19
greencookie!ati |DavyDeagle21:19
ubotuDavyDeagle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:19
r0b-damn this new release21:19
trprr0b: i ended up switching to a local mirror / tweaking my resolv.conf since dns was timing out. < 2hrs over here :)21:19
ubuntu_I want to keep using the same user account from my feisty /home21:19
DavyDeagleoh i know how to install them thanks just downloading took a while21:19
r0b-there we go21:19
Fat_Ferretcan ubuntu use normal windows fonts?21:19
Vletnerdygirl_ellie: yikes :o21:19
EvanlecSp0tUb, okay, and u said it was ntfs? u need the ntfs-3g package]\21:19
Charlottewell what exatcly to change in xorg??21:19
Evanlec!ntfs | Sp0tUb21:19
ubotuSp0tUb: ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse21:19
Mmphis there a apt-repo list somewhere, or are the default repositories the only ones?21:19
Sp0tUbEvanlec Its NTFS yes :-)21:19
r0b-15 minutes :(21:19
r0b-im gone21:19
chapiumdoes anyone know how to correct problems with the updater?  After upgrading to gutsy and rebooting, new updates fail21:19
Vossgreetings all21:19
ubuntu_When the gutsy installer asks for me to create a user can just put in my old information?21:19
greencookieVoss: hello :)21:20
pedroi ve already copied to my virtual machine the mp3 files and now how can acess these file with linux?21:20
Vletubuntu_: Anything you'd like21:20
chapiumall new updates are stopped by an error with tzdata21:20
openforlifeHow should I back up my MySQL database?21:20
tomd123is anyone else helping seed the ubuntu iso torrent?21:20
ace1i'll try poking in after the upgrade storm's over i guess - take care ya'll21:20
TSNSDI need the parameter to pass to the installer for an automated kickstart install that tells the installer not to check the net during install so that my install is fully automated with no user input needed. The ubuntu installer automatically checks the net for security updates during install, I need to pass it a parameter to tell it not to do that.21:20
Sp0tUbEvanlec Package? Can i get it with my "Add/Remove"?21:20
Clearze1genii: Thanks21:20
ejeropenforlife: mysqldump21:20
openforlifetomd123, I am :)21:20
tonyyarussotomd123: of course :)21:20
DavyDeagleok install of glibc failed on amd64 install of 7.1021:20
VossSo...I'm shopping for a new notebook to run Ubuntu on it exclusively, I'll pastebin the specs to see what you guys think21:20
openforlifeejer, thanks21:20
tomd123im on a university connection so im uploading 500kilobytes/s21:20
tomd123:P21:20
NitecatTSNSD: It doesn't ask?  I thought it did.  Maybe I have distro vertigo.  Unplug your network card :P21:20
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Vletpedro: If you copied them to a virtual machine, the only way to access them would be to boot up the virtual machine, and then set up a shared folder to copy them to linux21:21
TSNSDIt DOES ask21:21
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Charlotte:(21:21
Evanlec!ntfs-3g | Sp0tUb21:21
ubotuSp0tUb: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions21:21
TSNSDI need it NOT TO21:21
Optimus__Primehehe21:21
RivaeAeryawhy is Kubuntu much more unsupported in some things than Ubuntu?21:21
NitecatTSNSD: Well tell it no21:21
TSNSDummmm21:21
LjLRivaeAerya: fewer developers.21:21
Dr_willisVlet,  so you can confirm that cut/pasteing files from vmware-session <--> linux Os dosent work eh? :)21:21
TSNSDfully automated kickstart install21:21
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NitecatTSNSD: oh sorry21:21
Dr_willisVlet,  i know you can do text cut/pasteing.. but never tried a file.21:21
ejerRivaeAerya: like what21:21
Mmphbecause KDE requires less tech support RivaeAerya21:21
Stwangecan anyone give me a hand, since I updated eclipse isn't working. I tried removing all related packages and reinstalling but with no luck. It keeps saying workspace failed to initialise: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.Plugin, and when I try to create a new project it just does nothing21:22
* Mmph ducks21:22
RivaeAeryaMmph: no i mean hardware support, software support, features, that kinda stuff21:22
RivaeAeryastableness21:22
VletDr_willis: No, I don't think that works... last I tried, it doesn't work in windows either21:22
VossLet me know what you guys think: http://pastebin.com/d1c8728f021:22
ubuntu_I want to use my old user account from feisty on gutsy. I already have mounted my old /home partition as my new gutsy partition in the installer. Should I put my old user information in when asked to create a user in the installer?21:22
RivaeAeryabugginess21:22
Dr_willisRivaeAerya,  i think you are mistaken in many of your statements.21:22
Mmphprobably less volinteers21:22
BlamaWhenever I try to boot up Ubuntu I choose it on the loader and then it stops sending information to my monitor. I think the problem is that I need to change the xserv-xorg config to use VESa instead of ATI but whenever I boot into recovery mode and get the command line, my keyboard does not work. If I unplug it and then plug it in I get the error "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/all, error -62"21:22
RivaeAeryaDr_willis: please do explain21:22
ejerRivaeAerya: kde works fine here, if anything has more features than gnome21:22
beast_hello21:22
Maartenhmm. I take it that us.archive.ubuntu.com is just simply overloaded right now? :P21:22
ejerand it is not really ubuntu doing the dev anyways21:22
Dr_willisRivaeAerya,   the hardware support is NOT related to KDe or GNOME. its part of the Underlaying OS.21:22
EvanlecRivaeAerya, because less people use kubuntu ... simple as that21:22
`MatirRivaeAerya, I would say that KDE is quite stable... but gnome gets more because it's what is part of core ubuntu.  Many would say it NEEDS more work.21:22
Optimus__PrimeI like Gnome:)21:23
LarepWhy my gusty's font are orrible ?21:23
Dr_willisRivaeAerya,  as for 'features' thats just vague/21:23
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Evanlec!fonts | Larep21:23
ubotuLarep: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer21:23
lomezhi all, i just downloaded deluge, how do i enable encryption. and second of all, when i select a torrent (gutsy) i select a download directory and nothing happens21:23
pedrotks21:23
Dr_willisAbout the only area i find gnome/kde differeances that  are imporntant - are the docs/guides often are only for one or the other.21:23
r0b-:(21:23
VossAnyone have any thoughts? http://pastebin.com/d1c8728f021:23
BlamaWhenever I try to boot up Ubuntu I choose it on the loader and then it stops sending information to my monitor. I think the problem is that I need to change the xserv-xorg config to use VESa instead of ATI but whenever I boot into recovery mode and get the command line, my keyboard does not work. If I unplug it and then plug it in I get the error "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/all, error -62"21:23
r0b-im mad21:23
fkumrolomez, its in the settings21:23
Evanleclomez, all that in the settings21:24
stray77Blama, does your video card have to outputs? if so try the other one (even if you need a dvi to vga adapter)21:24
fkumrolomez, just have to peak around a little bit21:24
sebastesBlama: PS2 keyboard if nothing else works?21:24
stray77*two (dual)21:24
nerdygirl_ellieopenforlife:  I do mysqldump -d databasename -uusername -ppassword > somefile && tar -czmf database.tgz somefile21:24
lomezfkmuro evanlec under Preferences?21:24
Forssen85When I enable desktop effects the top of the windows has dissapeared!21:24
Evanleclomez, yah21:24
Forssen85and when I open a termnial windows I just get a white box??21:24
beast_Most of the time when i try to download something via apt-get, the download gets hung up and says "Waiting for Headers". I read somewhere that is you delete the "us" off all of your sources, it would be fixed, but it didn't work for me. Any suggestions?21:24
Maarten1% [1 hplip-data 1639261/6498kB 25%] 12.4kB/s 2h51m57s <------ /me slaps the ubuntu servers..... more SPEED! I got a 10 Mbps pipe :P21:24
Forssen85Plz help..21:24
Blamasebastes, Yeah, I don't have one though... I wanna see if I can actually fix the problem, nt sidestep it21:24
Charlotteso whatever i do,no matter what resolution i pick i woun't change    :(21:25
lomezhmm evanlec, fkmuro, its not in here. theres two tabs, General, and Network. neither of them have anything for encryption21:25
EvanlecMaarten, lol...21:25
beast_or is that just the servers melting from the load?21:25
sebastesblama: Boot into recovery mode and modify the xconfig maybe?21:25
Blamastray77, I'll try that21:25
lunzi still can't connected to internet using d-link wireless dwl-g122,i did install ndiswrapper and it detected the wireless signal but just couldnt connect to it...21:25
vondererdoes anybody there use fluxbox?21:25
r0b-im down to like 6 minutes21:25
stray77Blama, it worked for me21:25
sebastesblama: NM, I'm a moron21:25
lunz:((21:25
Evanleclomez, i dont have deluge installed at the moment so i cant help ya21:25
Stwangecan anyone give me a hand, since I updated eclipse isn't working. I tried removing all related packages and reinstalling but with no luck. It keeps saying workspace failed to initialise: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.Plugin, and when I try to create a new project it just does nothing21:25
Blamasebastes, I can't. My keyboard doesn't work21:25
MaartenI'm thinking its just overload21:25
r0b-its a RACE i tell ya21:25
admin8torI'm pulling 360kb+/sec right now from ubuntu, and I have torrents running, etc.21:25
jovanscan everybody tell how can i disable compiz/xgl under gutsy systemwide?21:25
fkumrolomez, I remember it being at the bottom of one of the configs, dont have it installed on this machine (at work)21:25
nerdygirl_ellieLarep: same problem, fix it under system -> pref -> appearance... looks plum awful on lcd's..21:25
flodineneed a link to alternative cd download please for gutsy final21:25
Evanleclunz, most likely security settings21:26
NitecatTSNSD: the docs are very sparse on your question.... they do mention firewall conf is not supported21:26
r0b-im gettin 23KB21:26
Charlotteany ideas21:26
Maartenadmin8tor: gimme sum! :P21:26
nerdygirl_elliejovans: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl21:26
younan1hello everyone21:26
NitecatCharlotte: pastebin your xorg.conf21:26
r0b-i need bandwith!21:26
EvanlecCharlotte, did u read the fixvideo resolution link i posted?21:26
Forssen85Anyone also has this problem? When I open terminal in gnome I only get a white box..21:26
jovansah ok21:26
Kilroough...I really don't want to have to use xmodmap...21:26
lunzevanlec,how to check the security setting?21:26
Maartenah welk, it wanted 158 Mb in upgrades and it is at 2% - i'll just leave it running, I got time :P21:26
Vletlomez: In deluge, go to preferences, click the network tab, and at the bottom you will see a checkbox for "Prefer to encrypt the entire stream"21:26
Charlotteyes21:26
wamtyis ubuntu 7.10 on cd or dvd?21:27
nerdygirl_ellier0b-: thou shalt torrent and it will be good.21:27
backbluehi, i have 7.10, but when i activate the effects, i dont have window manager, this is normal problem in 7.10? more people with the same issue?21:27
wamtybut when i set to download have 695mb21:27
wamtyANYONE?21:27
Evanleclunz, is your wireless network running WEP or WPA?21:27
NitecatMaarten: It is is sooo slow today.  The whole world wants gutsy :)21:27
stray77r0b-, you dont need more bandwidth, the repos do. understandably they are getting hammered right now.21:27
Vletbackblue: I'm guessing you have an ATI video card :)21:27
waldo323wamty, cd21:27
MaartenNitecat, yeah no kidding :P21:27
Evanlecwamty, it can go on either a cd or dvd, but designed to fit on cd21:27
admin8torwamty: there are both21:27
r0b-im updating :P21:27
Nitecat18.3 kB/s....21:27
Dr_willisbackblue,  you upgraded or did a clean install?21:27
nerdygirl_elliebackblue: same problem here, it loses the window title and borders.  I am on nvidia.21:27
Nitecat:)21:27
weltalldoes anyone know how to remove completely the backlight management in ubuntu? i'ts making me have an headcache! :S21:27
backbluei'm on nvidia21:27
nerdygirl_ellieDr_willis: same problem as backblue, nvidia, upgrade.21:27
Forssen85nerdygirl_ellie: : same here... nvidia.. no borders21:27
adaptrw00t.. gutsy 64 bit up and running21:28
NitecatCharlotte: pastebin your xorg.conf and I'll try to help21:28
Dr_willisnerdygirl_ellie,  i rember why i always do clean installs..21:28
backbluenerdygirl_ellie: the solution it's upgrade?21:28
Greencookieadaptr: nice:)21:28
Vletnerdygirl_ellie, backblue: oh weird - my experience with nvidia and compiz has always been nice n easy21:28
r0b-i have VIA onboard video :P21:28
ejeryou guys with no borders, wipe out your compiz or beryl configs in home dir21:28
Clearze1nerdygirl_ellie: Do you know how to compile source?21:28
Haz... hmm21:28
Nitecatthat's why I said pastebin21:28
backbluei think it does not have like the compiz themes, or window managers or something...21:28
Dr_willisi will say that a clean install /compiz works good here with my 8800 card.21:28
jovansnerdygirl_ellie one moment xserver-xgl is not installed21:28
nerdygirl_elliebackblue: no, I upgraded from 7.04 from 6.1021:29
younan1anyone getting this error while trying to upgrade? "Getting Upgrade Prerequisites failed:The system was unable to get the prerequisites"21:29
OM1136i did apt-cdrom add, it did, what do I do to complete the upgrade to 7.10?21:29
backbluenerdygirl_ellie: me too!21:29
Hazi just installed gutsy and when it got to the USplash an error came up on my monitor saying "OUT of Range" with some info about my monitor21:29
Forssen85where can I find the nvidia upgrade?21:29
GreencookieGutsy is still beta?21:29
stray77no21:29
younan1no gutsy is out21:29
HazGreencookie: no.21:29
nerdygirl_ellieGreencookie: no, today is the release day.21:29
EvanlecGreencookie, gutsy has been released final today21:29
Maartenno released today21:29
nerdygirl_ellie!final21:29
ubotuIf you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.21:29
Boumboum5Nitecat: Ubuntu keeps overwriting my xorg.conf file after I modified it... is there a more permanent way to modify xorg.conf?21:29
kdub43210 more minutes til  my download is done :-D21:29
Clearze1nerdygirl_ellie: If you know how to compile from source you can use git-core to download the source for compiz and compile it. I was having the same problem with my card until I did that, now it works great.21:30
Greencookieoh  ok. So when I install Gutsy will i lose data on my Fiesty? or is it a smooth install?21:30
NeoGeo64i am downloading ubuntu fast now!21:30
RivaeAerya`Matir: well, some of the reasons i use kde are: GNOME is very slow on this computer, firefox doesn't work well with AJAX websites, video's don't play in the browser21:30
flick22 hours...21:30
younan1no one is having this problem? "Getting Upgrade Prerequisites failed:The system was unable to get the prerequisites"21:30
* nerdygirl_ellie starts dropping kdub432's packets.21:30
NeoGeo64Ubuntu 7.10 coming in at 650k/sec for me21:30
Boumboum5Greencookie: it's been smooth for me..I didn't lose any data.21:30
lunzevanlec,none as the access point using my mac address to access to the network21:30
Necrosan_bcm43xx-fwcutter works for crap21:30
jburdyounan1: Yes, I do.21:30
schizoschafhi21:30
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NeoGeo64anyone want the mirror?21:30
r0b-Ubuntu 7.10 is gonna make me kill myself :P21:30
Necrosan_doesnt ever show me any wireless networks21:30
NeoGeo64its the ga tech mirror21:30
admin8toryounan1: I'm guessing it could be a bandwidth problem.21:30
younan1jburd, did you find any way around it?21:30
Necrosan_and if i manually select one, it turns it off21:30
kdub432thanks nerdygirl_ellie...21:30
Maartenthat's what I am doing.... i'm not near my box so I am upgrading remotely through ssh :P21:30
Necrosan_What are my options?21:30
backblueso there is solution for this compiz problem? no window manager?21:30
Necrosan_I'm on gutsy amd6421:30
Lunzevanlec,none as the access point using my mac address to access to the network21:31
stray77yay, done downloading the gutsy dvd finally21:31
spdfr0b-, Relax. Everything is going to be okay ;)21:31
NitecatBoumboum5: I always back mine up, first of all... second of all do you keep reconfiguring x from dpkg or something?  I think that's the only time it does that.21:31
jburdyounan1: Well, "Please wait..."21:31
nerdygirl_ellieNecrosan_: works here, 7.10 Dell d820 with a dell 1350 internal minipci card.21:31
jodi2!vpn21:31
ubotuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD21:31
* r0b- shoots Ubuntu's Servers!21:31
EvanlecLunz, yea alright, well what kind of wireless card is it21:31
NeoGeo64What is the difference between the Gusty CD and Gusty DVD?21:31
younan1admin8tor: it can't be a bandwidth problem because it worked without a hitch on my other computer21:31
Necrosan_nerdygirl_ellie: I'm on an HP Pavilion dv2416us..21:31
FlimFlamManhehe, trying to install a feisty package has me sitting at  0% [Waiting for headers]  for about ten minutes  :-)21:31
backbluenerdygirl_ellie: but have you fixed the problem?21:31
EvanlecNeoGeo64, the dvd has more packages21:31
Maarteni would recommend the torrent if you want the cd or dvd - they start out slow, but they get pretty fast after a while21:31
Necrosan_nerdygirl_ellie: Any special steps you needed to do?21:31
Necrosan_Are you using "Roaming Mode"?21:31
Clearze1NeoGeo64: The Dvd has a lot of bloat j/k21:31
stray77NeoGeo64, about 3.5gb21:31
blomSo trying to boot kubuntu 7.10, and just getting alot of fd0 read errors, and i dont even have a floppy drive in my computer, after like 10 minutes i get a prompt.... any ideas?21:31
stray77lol21:31
Charlottedont know how tp pastbin21:32
NeoGeo64Evanlec: Are the packages that on the DVD available on synaptic for me since i'm using a cd?21:32
nerdygirl_ellieYou are the second HP to mention it here... I think your specific chip has an "issue" with it.  Was it working before andyou upgraded?21:32
Lunzevanlec,d-linl dwl-g122 ver c121:32
Charlotte:(21:32
spdfNeoGeo64, They'll be available to you on the repos21:32
EvanlecNeoGeo64, all the packages are available over the net yes21:32
Clearze1NeoGeo64: yes21:32
backblueblom: install one floppy drive! :D21:32
r0b-87% [52 libmng-dev 0/285kB 0%]                                   31.5kB/s 1m43s21:32
r0b-this is unfair!21:32
NeoGeo64oh ok good21:32
Hazi just installed gutsy and when it got to the USplash an error came up on my monitor saying "OUT of Range" with some info about my monitor.. anyone have an idea what caused that?21:32
EvanlecLunz, and u installed ndiswrapper and the driver n all that?21:32
Necrosan_nerdygirl_ellie: No, I was using Vista beforehand.. Have been waiting for a week or so to toss it.21:32
Necrosan_It did work fine in Vista, though.21:32
blombackblue, do i really have to??21:32
NitecatCharlotte: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21:32
spdfThe repos are going to be pretty slow right now though21:32
Necrosan_It's a BCM431221:32
chimpHey, I'm trying to install 7.10 and similarly with 7.04 when it comes to partitioning the computer, on one of the hard drives if i try to resize the windows partition, it starts, then quickly says something like "trying to write changes to disk failed, resize failed" the other hard drive just says "used unknown" and so cant be resized21:32
Lunzevanlec,yes21:32
NeoGeo64oooh im at 40%!! yes!21:32
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: Did you get your wireless working?  Necrosan_ has the same issue you did.21:32
Necrosan_minipci also.21:32
backblueblom: i was joking! :D21:32
NeoGeo64i will soon have ubuntu 7.10!!21:32
Name141Does anyone know something that would work like FreeDownloadManager or GetRight that would run in Ubuntu?  I thought about switching, but I can't just use wget (or don't want to anyway).21:32
backbluedam, what a mess!21:32
blombackblue, ;P21:33
Boumboum5For Wifi...I've found it often helps if you disable the wifi....wait a few seconds...then re-enable it. If that doesn't work..I disable both wifi and networking...wait 30 seconds...re-enable... almost always works for me.21:33
riotkittiewhats unfair, r0b-21:33
* NeoGeo64 is so excited21:33
newguyhey would it hurt to turn off "tracker search tool" and "indexing" because im SURE its causing some problems, bloody stupid if you ask me! its slowed ubuntu right down to winblowze xp speeds!21:33
jburdName141: gwget21:33
emetName141, download them all!21:33
NeoGeo64i had today marked on my calender21:33
r0b-lol21:33
FlimFlamManlook, could everyone please kill their downloads so i can install this one feisty package?  :-)21:33
riotkittieoh. stuck on a file, eh?21:33
r0b-what u downloading21:33
backbluei cant even read one line until the end *G*21:33
emetName141, "download them all!"21:33
NeoGeo64October 18 is Ubuntu Day21:33
NeoGeo64I even bought a cake21:33
Charlotteyes my wirless is working perfect w/ ndiswrapper21:33
* nerdygirl_ellie starts dropping NeoGeo64's packets.21:33
Name141Cows?21:33
nerdygirl_ellieCharlotte: thanks.21:33
flick2i suppose almost everyone here had21:33
Boumboum5lol FlimFlamMan21:33
NitecatI find using ndiswrapper almost always fixes wireless problems,  that and blacklisting bcm43xx21:33
NeoGeo64I got a cake with the ubuntu flower on it21:33
Necrosan_So I need ndis.21:33
NeoGeo64and im throwing a ubuntu party21:33
Maarten10.7kB/s <---- you are killing me larry!!! and I don21:33
Nitecatassuming it's a broadcom mini pci21:33
r0b-my install is ALMOST done21:33
* NeoGeo64 is getting 700k/sec21:33
Clearze1NeoGeo64: you bought a cake. lol, that's classic21:33
Maarten10.7kB/s <---- you are killing me larry!!! and I don't even want a new matrass21:33
Lunzevanlec,i am using 7.04 now my other hardisk is gutsy,i did install same driver as 7.04..21:33
Necrosan_Any guides to setup ndis and disable bcm, Nitecat?21:33
flick2roughly 2 more hours... (curse the 256kbps conneciton)21:33
NeoGeo64511k/sec now21:34
NeoGeo64w00t21:34
Charlotteok i pastbin my xorg.conf file21:34
r0b-is this even worth it21:34
Raphhi, im on ubuntu ( not kubuntu), my kde soft icons dont display correctly, some idea ?21:34
younan1wow nice NeoGeo, i think i'm topping at 30kb/s21:34
* nickrud wants to tell FlimFlamMan to use Software Sources to pick the fastest repo, but that's gutsy ;)21:34
NitecatNecrosan_: install ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper userspace 1.921:34
Dr_willisr0b-,  wait for service pack 1 ? :)21:34
NeoGeo64Thats the beauty of having a 6mbit dsl connection21:34
mc44!offtopic | NeoGeo6421:34
ubotuNeoGeo64: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!21:34
Maartenflick2: no worries, I have a 10 Mbps line and am getting speeds slower then 256 kbit/s so we're all in the same boat! :D21:34
NitecatNecrosan_: download your windows drivers21:34
flick2younan1: i'm in your club21:34
Larepnerdygirl_ellie, tnx, in aspect what should I do ?21:34
flick2Oh21:34
Stwangewhat should I do with a .bin installer?21:34
FlimFlamManhttp://ubuntu.hosting.spherelinx.com/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso  <-- FWIW, this was very quick for me earlier today21:34
Necrosan_Nitecat: I'm on AMD64, I have the 64bit drivers21:34
Name141jburd: it doesn't seem to have a 'start' and 'stop' ?21:34
emetName141, "download them all!" is a firefox plugin that adds a very advanced download manager21:34
Necrosan_will those work?21:34
NeoGeo64My dl cap is around 820k/sec21:34
blueeraseri miss my old 28.821:34
nerdygirl_ellieNecrosan_: If the linux-restricted driver doesn't work for you, then ndiswrapper should.  It pushes the windows driver into submission and works for "most" nics.  yours should work.21:34
NeoGeo64;)21:34
backblueshould i have any beryl-* commands in the shell in 7.10?21:34
vondererneed some help with fluxbox here21:35
NitecatNecrosan_: maybe... i've had probs21:35
sx66xfceyep21:35
spdfStwange, chmod +x [Filename] .. ./[Filename]21:35
backbluei dont have any21:35
admin8tor303.4 of 695.8MB @ 369mb/sec, 20:21 remain21:35
Irvy[home]goodnight21:35
r0b-mine is like 700Kb21:35
mc44backblue: no21:35
Necrosan_How do I getrid of the fwcutter crap21:35
spdfStwange, but really only if you know what the package is (ie. Sun Java)21:35
Name141I need a DL manager that would start at 2 AM, and stop at 5 AM (no matter if the files are done or not).21:35
jburdName141: Yeah.  Add them.  :-)21:35
flick2Maarten i see... any idea why the could be slow? i suppose u r using a torrent too...21:35
Necrosan_just disable it in the restricted drivers?21:35
backbluemc44: how do i start the manager? like beryl-manager?21:35
r0b-now its done :P21:35
NitecatNecrosan_: blacklist bcm43xx21:35
Irvy[home]Need help on a strange bug21:35
Stwangespdf, good guess :)21:35
mc44backblue: beryl doesn't exist anymore21:35
jburdName141: wget + crontab21:35
mc44backblue: it's compiz21:35
emetName141, check out "download them all"21:35
Maartenflick2: because today is release day and everyone wants it :P21:35
NitecatNecrosan_: put that at the end of your blacklist file.21:35
Lunzevanlec,i am using windows driver to install from ndiswrapper.. same as my ubuntu 7.04..but gutsy is not working21:35
Vossso, any thoughts on the integrated GPU on the notbook I plan to buy? ATI Xpress 115021:35
younan1flick2: yeah i reported the bug to launchpad because update-manager said so. Some people are saying its because the servers are tied up, but I'm currently downloading/installing it on another pc with no prob21:36
backbluemc44: i know, but it has somehting like beryl-manager dont?21:36
sebastesbackblue: The manager for compiz fuzion is not installed by default.21:36
Name141My ISP has a "Fair Access Policy" that only gives me 3 hours of unlimited usage.21:36
r0b-now to install XCHAT21:36
Dr_willisvonderer,  perhaps be a bit more verbose in your question. :)21:36
NitecatNecrosan_: can you see the bcm stuff in lsmod?21:36
backbluesebastes: which package?21:36
Clearze1Lunz: What kind of card is it?21:36
Dr_willisr0b-,  sudo apt-get isntall xchat21:36
r0b-:(21:36
Name141OK.21:36
mc44backblue: compizconfig-settings-manager21:36
=== Irvy[home] is now known as Irvine
r0b-why are the US servers so slow21:36
Charlottei just pasbined my xorg21:36
Dr_willis:)21:36
backbluehanks21:36
Clearze1r0b-: traffic21:36
backbluethanks21:36
Dr_willishow = now heh oopd21:36
MaartenName141 - wtf - ditch that ISP and get something better :P21:36
Nitecatthe fw-cutter works, at least in 32-bit... but I can't get it to do more than 10mbs or somethign21:36
Lunzclearzel,d-link dwl-g122 ver c121:36
Name141Maarten: unable to, there's Hughesnet , or Wildblue21:36
finalbetahow does one install the vmware tools in gutsy? still same way as in feisty?21:36
Name141Or dialup21:36
Lunzclearzel,d-link dwl-g122 ver c1 wireless usb21:36
emetfinalbeta, yes21:37
finalbetainstalling build essentials etc?21:37
blueeraserhow do i register my name?21:37
younan1awesome, i'm up to 200kbps21:37
EvanlecLunz, im not sure then21:37
vondererDr_willis: ok. when I start fluxbox, I cannot summon right mouse button menu: only middle button one21:37
sebastesAnyone know any reasons why I shouldn't update using the package manager and adding the CD as a repo?21:37
finalbetaok. thnx.21:37
emetcompiz fusion rules!!21:37
LarepCan anyone know how fix fonts on gusty ?21:37
Necrosan_Nitecat: yeah21:37
Nitecatndiswrapper with windows driver works at 54 mbs21:37
emetI am in Expo mode21:37
emetlol21:37
Necrosan_sleep is broken by the way21:37
LarepCan anyone know how fix fonts on gusty ?21:37
Lunzclearzel,windows driver is dr71wu.inf21:37
MaartenName141: Move out of the boonies! :D21:37
NeoGeo64It's pretty amazing, the mirrors were flooded this morning, now they're going fast.21:37
spdfMmm Expo mode is good times21:37
chapiumLarep: whats wrong21:37
Clearze1Lunz: I think you should be able to use madwifi with that card21:37
younan1whats wrong with gutsy's fonts?21:37
Forssen85How do I update the nvidia driver??21:37
EstethHey all. When i try to upgrade to gutsy or update my packages, i get an error about not being able to fetch some things. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41124/ is the things i can't fetch21:37
Clearze1Lunz: I"ll check one sec21:37
Larepchaky, looks very badly21:37
backbluei should have emerald installed?21:37
Name141Maarten: I can move 3 miles up to town and get cable or dsl.21:37
AmaranthNitecat: Work on the bcm43xx is still on going21:37
emetLarep, if you don't like fonts you can adjust the settings in System -> Pref -> Fonts21:37
Irvinegot a very strange problem with 7.04 CD. After booting into Gnome it asks me to logon. No guess what shouls I do21:38
* r0b- punches seld21:38
Charlotte Necrosan_ how i can help u with ur wirless21:38
r0b-self*21:38
AmaranthNitecat: First get it correct, then get it fast21:38
howlingmadhowiethe standard gutsy kernel seems to have problems with my framebuffer :( i think i'll end up rolling my own :(21:38
Sp0tUbEvanlec Its working! :-D Nice!!21:38
LarepIsn't that,21:38
NitecatAmaranth: yeah... i just wanted to say it worked and why I don't use it21:38
backbluei should have emerald installed?21:38
EvanlecSp0tUb, cool21:38
Larepthere is a problem -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565812&highlight=ugly+fonts21:38
Amaranthbackblue: Why?21:38
Sp0tUbEvanlec Thx ALOT! :-)21:38
Dr_willisim allready sick of the compiz/eyecandy  stuff. :021:38
EvanlecSp0tUb, np21:38
emetDr_willis, NEVER !!!21:38
backblueAmaranth: because i dont have! and i dont have window decorators21:38
Lunzclearzel,gutsy native driver rt73usb is not working or 7.04 and gutsy so i did blacklist..21:38
* emet spins the cube21:38
Clearze1Lunz:21:38
newguyHINT for anyone thats thinking of using gutsy -- turn the indexing service off, its absolutly stuped, your pc will slow right down with that on21:38
blueeraserhow do i register my login name?21:38
Amaranthbackblue: emerald is not installed by default, we use gtk-window-decorator21:39
Charlotte Necrosan_??????????????????????????21:39
r0b-alright21:39
Dr_willisemet,  the one feature i like is the 'show mini windows in the tasbar' thing.21:39
Charlottedid u fix ur wirless21:39
emetcool compiz fusion trick: Super + E21:39
r0b-im paying for 6MB DSL and im not maxing it21:39
blueeraseror is that unnecessary?21:39
Amaranthnewguy: Until it finishes the initial index21:39
younan1 rt73usb is notorious, i just use ndiswrapper for mine21:39
emetDr_willis, did you try out Expo ?21:39
r0b-i must kill Canonical :P21:39
endowhat is the super button? just the windows key on the keyboard?21:39
MaartenName141: are you in DLOS with the town? You may be able to put a 10 feet antenna on your roof, and find someone in town willing to do the same :P buddy of mine does it over 2 miles with a friend that can get DSL while he can't.21:39
Clearze1Lunz: If you download the restricted drivers package it should work21:39
IrvineAmaranth: can I PM you?21:39
backblueAmaranth: ok, in which packages, are the compiz fusion themes? and window managers?21:39
Amaranthnewguy: Once you finish it you won't even notice it21:39
d3visi0nHow can I validate my download of this iso? - Thanks21:39
AmaranthIrvine: If you need help with something just ask here21:39
Dr_willisemet,  i find little use for expo. it just dosent work with the way i work.. and my dual screen setup21:39
Clearze1Lunz: You may have to enable it in the restricted drivers manager21:39
mc44!md5 | d3visi0n21:39
john_d63f2cbac269bcb74c5caf4ca7844b0321:39
ubotud3visi0n: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:39
AmaranthIrvine: Otherwise go ahead21:39
Necrosan_Nitecat: okay21:39
d3visi0nthanks :)21:39
Skelet0nGutsy Live CD crash b4 even booting? need help21:40
Clearze1Lunz: If that doesn't work for you I'll give you step by step instructions21:40
emetDr_willis, oh compiz looks much prettier on one SINGLE big screen21:40
Lunznow i am using 7.04 with ndiswrapper with driver dr72wu and is working fine with 7.04 but why not with gutsy..i thought they already updatethe database?21:40
CheeseGardenerI had 7.10beta, how do I update to 7.10 full???21:40
NitecatCharlotte: did you send the url to your xorg.conf?21:40
Amaranthbackblue: We don't have the emerald themes packaged21:40
younan1backblue: get the emerald theme manager for window decorations21:40
r0b-ok Xchat is done21:40
Amaranthbackblue: It's just 5 themes with a million variations21:40
BollingerI've just installed 7.10,  How can I get compriz cube working? compriz is working21:40
Dr_willisemet,  i got mythtv on the 2nd screen. :)21:40
Lunzevanlec,how to download the restricted driver?21:40
Amaranthbackblue: The decorators are in compiz-gnome, compiz-kde, and emerald21:40
Clearze1Lunz: You don't want to use ndiswrapper unless you absolutely have to21:40
Skelet0nGutsy Live CD crash b4 even booting? need help21:40
Necrosan_!upgrade | CheeseGardener21:40
ubotuCheeseGardener: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes21:40
=== nickspoonix is now known as pinkcoons
backblueAmaranth: i dont have any, at least it's what i think this problem it's.21:40
emet!compiz21:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager21:41
Name141Oh yes another thing, I got the old disks today (7.04) and I ran Ubuntu LIVE, however, it was unable to access the files on the living room computer.21:41
Clearze1Lunz: Because it breaks like this21:41
Amaranthbackblue: My guess is you use nvidia and thought you were advanced enough to set it up yourself instead of using restricted-manager :)21:41
newguyAmaranth: and exaclty how is one supposed to know when the 'initial' index has completed? it didnt even tell me it had started! let alone finish! all that happend is i noticed the pc running like a pig after installing gutsy, and now it runs smoothly with indexing turned off! ive had the pc on for about 5 hours since the upgrade, so how long is the initial index meant to take exactly?21:41
newguyive only got a 30gig HD btw21:41
Amaranthnewguy: Depends on how many and what kind of files you have21:41
NitecatNecrosan_: did you get ndiswrapper working?21:41
d3visi0nd2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c  ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso   -- this correct?21:41
Skelet0nGutsy Live CD crash b4 even booting? need help21:41
Charlottehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41125/21:41
Charlotteu mean this21:41
Amaranthnewguy: I dunno, I only had 1.5GB for it to index when gutsy first got it21:41
sparrwi hate ubuntu releases.  new release means it will be 2-3 months before ubuntu+1 is stable enough to use again.  :(21:41
newguyAmaranth: about 100 megs of mp3's and battle of wesnoth and thats it :S21:41
Lunzclearzel,ndiswrapper makes my wireless card working,native driver???i dont think so21:42
CheeseGardenerno, I already have 7.10, I had the beta.  How do I make it go to 7.10full?21:42
Amaranthnewguy: You could throttle it21:42
Amaranthnewguy: in tracker-preferences21:42
Blama[STOLZEN]Hey, I have a problem when trying to boot into Ubuntu. When choose normal Ubuntu on the GRUB menu it goes to the next screen where it flashes Kernal Loading and then my monitor stops recieving signal from the computer. I don21:42
TaurshazIs it possible to read ubuntu partitions in Windows XP?21:42
ceil420~changelog21:42
Necrosan_Nitecat: just uninstalled the restricted driver stuff21:42
sparrwTaurshaz: yes, but not easy21:42
ceil420:x21:42
AmaranthTaurshaz: explore2fs21:42
LarepCan anyone know how fix fonts on gusty ?21:42
Clearze1Lunz: Madwifi is not the native driver you have to *DOWNLOAD IT*21:42
Necrosan_so now apt-get install ndis-commoin21:42
backbluewhen i load effects to Normal, i get no window manager, or even window borders...21:42
Blama[STOLZEN]!vesa21:42
blueeraserwhat program should i use to burn an iso with fiesty?21:42
ubotuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x21:42
RobotBananaIs it safe to assume I'm not the only one getting incredibly slow download rates through Update Manager (bounces between nothing and 1000 B)?21:42
AmaranthTaurshaz: Probably not a good idea though, can cause problems21:42
Necrosan_common*?21:42
Lunzclearzel,and there is no wireless detected on my restricted driver list21:42
sparrwLarep: first you have to tell us what is wrong21:43
Blama[STOLZEN]!xserver21:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:43
newguyAmaranth: sorry wheres the preferences selection for the tracker?21:43
Name141Would it be able to access and read/write files from the networked windows computer if I had installed it and setup er.. 'windows shares' I guess?21:43
Charlotte Necrosan_: i can help u man with ur wirless21:43
ceil420!changelog21:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:43
Skelet0nGutsy Live CD crash b4 even booting? need help!!!21:43
sparrwblue42: i use k3b in kubuntu, dunno what gnome uses for iso burning.21:43
ceil420!gutsy21:43
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents21:43
Lunzclearzel,only my graphic card which is nvidia21:43
VossAnyone at all?21:43
newguyAmaranth: ive got the tracker search tool open, no prefrences available though21:43
Amaranthnewguy: tracker-preferences21:43
lamegoSkelet0n, use the alternate cd21:43
Blama[STOLZEN]Hey, I have a problem when trying to boot into Ubuntu. When choose normal Ubuntu on the GRUB menu it goes to the next screen where it flashes Kernal Loading and then my monitor stops recieving signal from the computer. I already changed the video driver to vesa from ATI.21:43
sixtyeightRobotBanana: I'm in the same boat, at this rate ill have the upgrade by sat :]21:43
Larepsparrw, http://i24.tinypic.com/2a7h1c6.png instead of http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/7342/screenshotmc8.png21:43
Charlotte Necrosan_: i can help u man with ur wirless21:43
MurielGodoiTaurshaz: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html21:43
Puaffplease, does anyone know if it is available vmware-player for ubuntu 7.10?21:43
Amaranthnewguy: Or System->Preferences->Indexing Preferences21:43
NitecatCharlotte: back up your xorg.conf.... copy it to xorg.conf.backup21:43
TaurshazHow big is ubuntu when fully installed?21:43
Taurshaz2 gigs?21:44
Lunzclearzel,how to download it?21:44
newguyah yup21:44
Noldjea about that21:44
sparrwLarep: whats the problem?21:44
AmaranthTaurshaz: yeah, about that21:44
Taurshazok21:44
d3visi0nCan someone tell me the correct hash key for 7.10? (MD5 hash key that is)21:44
Blama[STOLZEN]Hey, I have a problem when trying to boot into Ubuntu. When choose normal Ubuntu on the GRUB menu it goes to the next screen where it flashes Kernal Loading and then my monitor stops recieving signal from the computer. I already changed the video driver to vesa from ATI.21:44
r0b-:)21:44
dvs01_well i installed yesterday21:44
Clearze1Lunz: Here is a list of supported wifi cards by madwifi. As you will notice your card is listing as working. Which means if you download it, it will work for you http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=D-Link21:44
howlingmadhowieBlama[STOLZEN]: what are your boot options?21:44
dvs01_lets see what du says21:44
_MrPink_any way to check the 7.10 hashes yet to see if the download was ok ?21:44
sparrwTaurshaz: could be 200MB, could be 8GB.21:44
Larepsparrw, you don't see ?21:44
Charlotteok21:44
AmaranthBlama[STOLZEN]: Do you have a vga= option in your kernel line?21:44
RobotBananaWoah, jumped up to 120kB/s... Slowly going down.21:44
sparrwLarep: the second one has bigger font sizes?21:45
IrvineWell I just need to know what this all could be about. ((((((((((((((((( How am I supposed to install Ubu from LiveCD when it doesn't let me in at all21:45
Larepsparrw, I don't know, is an festy font21:45
Blama[STOLZEN]Amarath, How do I check that?21:45
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Rodyahow does one add support for audio/video in gutsy? o_O21:45
Charlottei made the cack up21:45
Amaranthsparrw: When someone asks how much space ubuntu takes assume they mean the default Ubuntu desktop :)21:45
sparrwLarep: look in the mozilla font preferences21:45
d3visi0nIrvine: download the alternative21:45
Charlottebackup**21:45
Noldhey has anybody an idea why gusty says that my IDE HDD is a SCSI? Faisty has it as IDE21:45
d3visi0nCan someone tell me the correct hash key for 7.10? (MD5 hash key that is)21:45
AmaranthBlama: If you don't know you don't have it21:45
EstethHow do i correct my inability to connect to the ubuntu servers for updates?21:45
Lunzclearzel,ndiswrapper also have my list working and yes it works on my feisty fawn but not on gutsy..21:45
jamiejacksoni'm backing up my etc and home directory in order to upgrade to gutsy.21:45
NitecatCharlotte: this is what the pertinent sections of mine looks like..... maybe it will help... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41127/21:45
howlingmadhowieBlama: when it says "press ESC now to enter GRUB" press ESC :)21:45
Irvined3visi0n: did it already21:45
sparrwNold: because crazy people are in charge of libata in debian21:45
jamiejacksoni'm simply cp ~/jamie /media/myUsbDrive/jamie <-- any prob with that?21:45
AmaranthBlama: Does it eventually go to the desktop and show on the monitor?21:46
Boumboum5Irvine: from the livecd it doesn't ask for a password at all..there's no logon..21:46
sparrwjamiejackson: cp is not recursive, do "cp -av whatever"21:46
GoldChaosHello there! Quick question, easy one at that.21:46
Amaranthjamiejackson: Not if the usb drive is fat3221:46
carlhako!torrents21:46
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!21:46
BlamaAmarath, No, my monitor doesn't ever get signal21:46
Amaranthjamiejackson: It doesn't save permissions21:46
Noldsparrw: you mean? sry bad english -.- xD21:46
AmaranthBlama: Did it on the LiveCD?21:46
CheeseGardenerhow do I go from 7.10beta to 7.10 full?21:46
newguyAmaranth: so i take it the Tracker search tool is like grep with a gui?21:46
d3visi0nI need the correct hash key for 7.10, its not on the hash list21:46
NitecatCharlotte: now if you're mucking about and break your xserver entirely, just put that file back from your backup from bash21:46
sparrwNold: its a "bug"21:46
IrvineBoumboum5: Yeah.. but it unfortunately does. Can give a screenphoto21:46
d3visi0nCheeseGardener: do apt-get dist-upgrade21:46
Amaranthnewguy: Something like that21:46
NitecatCharlotte: oui?21:46
Nolda ok thx21:46
bmk789how do i force the livecd to use a certain graphics card?21:46
jburdnewguy: No.   It's not.21:47
sparrwCheeseGardener: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade21:47
Amaranthnewguy: But it indexes stuff instead of trawling your drive on each search21:47
jburdnewguy: It's like a Google-- on your desktop21:47
GoldChaosif I'm running the RC of Gutsy, is there a need to try and upgrade to the final? Will it automatically do that - will it even appear on the Update Manager?21:47
newguyahh sweet21:47
GoldChaosOr will it not and just install normal updates as usual?21:47
sparrwGoldChaos: youll see new updates, but not a new distro21:47
Amaranthnewguy: Think 'Spotlight'21:47
endoam I going to have a lot of problems upgrading from fiesty to gutsy with compiz fusion already installed?21:47
blueeraserim gonna be rich21:47
[Al]Hey I've just discovered something weird. When my laptop's plugged in, the graphics are really laggy and lame, but when I unplug it, they smooth out. I'm running compiz fusion on an nvidia go somethingorother with the latest drivers, 14.1921:47
Amaranth(we actually had beagle before spotlight existed but whatever)21:47
GoldChaosSo, it's basically automatically upgraded but without telling me it's a new distro?21:47
Charlottei i saw it21:47
BlamaAmarath, I had this problem with 5.1 and I fixed it by reconfiguring xserver-xorg, choosing vesa, and then stopping gdm and starting it again and it worked. In order to install 7I had to download the alternate CD and install with the text based installer.21:48
GoldChaosOr should I wipe and reinstall?21:48
[Al]Oh also, the graphics are lame and laggy even if compiz isn't running21:48
d3visi0ncould someone please tell me the correct hash key?  the hash page does not list it21:48
Lunzclearzel,how to download madwifi?21:48
Amaranth[Al]: Your system is confused21:48
LiMaOGoldChaos: no need to reinstall. you are ALREADY running final.21:48
_tuxHey people I want to upgrade to Gusty but was wondering if its a good idea to do a Network Upgrade or just to download it and upgrade it from using a CD21:48
GoldChaosgreat, thank you!21:48
Amaranth[Al]: But that's all in the nvidia driver, we have no control21:48
GoldChaosThat's all :)21:48
LiMaOGoldChaos: just check your 'about ubuntu' menu21:48
CheeseGardenerit says it has nothing to upgrade.  How can I check if my computer is updated to the full gutsy???21:48
LiMaO=)21:48
Rodyad2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c *ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso21:48
Nitecatbrb smoking21:48
[Al]Are you sure? It seems like a power problem to me.21:48
d3visi0nthanks Rodya21:48
[Al]an ACPI thing21:48
Jaurusthanks Roydya21:48
Rodyanp21:48
LiMaOCheeseGardener: just check out your 'about ubuntu' menu21:49
GoldChaosLiMaO: It's never said I was running a beta, or RC1, or anything - which is why I was concerned21:49
bmk789can i force the livecd to use one graphics card instead of another? its defaulting to the wrong one21:49
Amaranth[Al]: The nvidia driver is the only thing that controls the nvidia hardware21:49
NitecatCheeseGardener: did you just finish apt-get dist-upgrade?21:49
GoldChaosthe about ubuntu has always simply said "7.10"21:49
d3visi0nI got a valid download, w00t :D21:49
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d3visi0n<3 wget -c21:49
CheeseGardenerLiMaO, where do I find the version I have in there?21:49
Dr_willis_tux,  if you have the time and effort. it might be best to do a clean install. :) but  givenhow hard hit the servers are right now..  you may want to wait a dai.21:49
GoldChaosAnyways, update manager refuses to get stuff - time to get the DVD and just use that.21:49
NitecatCheeseGardener: If you did, and if your apt sources are all gutsy, then it's gutsy21:49
nante1d3visi0n: wget -c rocks!21:49
Lunzclearzel,as i said i already installed the driver..why should i download again?21:49
GoldChaosTorrent is quite speedy.21:49
d3visi0n=D21:49
Irvineso... now it says it can't load Human.theme before asking for a logon21:50
LiMaOGoldChaos and CheeseGardener check out System > Administration > System Monitor21:50
Charlotteso basicly my problem is that nomatter what resolution i chouse, it wound't change21:50
[Al]But the driver works fine if the laptop's unplugged.21:50
GoldChaosOkay.21:50
Lunzclearzel,it is the same21:50
d3visi0nMy net dropped half way through - so I used wget -c | got worried that I would get a corrupt download nante121:50
_tuxDr_willis, If I do a clean install I would practically lose everything right that I set up?21:50
Holek_what the...21:50
AmaranthBlama: Come back here21:50
sx66xfcelol21:50
Holek_after upgarding to 7.10 firfox changed its font21:50
[Al]It's only when it's plugged in that it's laggy. Surely that's the kernel's fault?21:50
riotkittietorrent <321:50
Holek_is that normal?21:50
Amaranth[Al]: The nvidia driver is the only thing that controls the nvidia hardware21:50
Dr_willis_tux,  thats why you backup the imporntant stuff.21:50
nante1d3visi0n: good copy then?21:51
caesar_Is there a .deb for hamachi?21:51
_tuxI gotcha thanks21:51
CheeseGardenerLiMaO, it says I'm running "Release 7.10 (gutsy).  Kernal Linux 2.6.22-14-generic.  Gnome 2.20.0"21:51
[Al]Yes but the kernel controls the driver. Perhaps it's not the driver at fault?21:51
Dr_willis_tux,  i always keep /home on its own partition/hard drive :)21:51
Noldceasar: yes21:51
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[Al]Is there a way of turning ACPI off?21:51
CryoniqHow do I get rid off all the garbage turning up on my screen, watching video and there are like a transparent triangle all over.. in gutsy gibbon with ati9800pro card..21:51
d3visi0nyup nante1, just downloaded it to my works server - onsite right now - so I have to wait until later :(21:51
jamiejacksonman, this is a high traffic room. anyway, i'm copying to an ext3 partition on the usb21:51
_tuxhaha nice idea21:51
d3visi0n<3 screen -r too21:51
Amaranth[Al]: add acpi=off to the kernel line21:51
Noldceaser: at least therer is a version that works ^21:51
[Al]k21:51
onur_hi all21:51
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Amaranth[Al]: but acpi isn't just power management, you're not going to enjoy the experience21:51
d3visi0nright back to css :<21:51
flodineneed a link to alternative cd download please for gutsy final21:52
_tuxthanks again I am outta here21:52
onur_how can i add a mirror to wget21:52
neverblue2Al, what are you trying to shut it off for?21:52
nante1d3visi0n: Eh, I skipped class today.  Was up all night bailing water out of the basement anyway.21:52
onur_for downloading gutsy ?21:52
r0b-the servers are a little faster21:52
Rodyawget -c doesn't care what the address is so long as the file names are the same afaik21:52
KlownerAnyone know if there's a way to disable Compiz/Beryl from the command line? I'm attempting to connect to a remote machine using VNC, and it seems as though VNC doesn't update the client if desktop effects are running21:52
Charlotteoooooooooooooo yea baby i fix it21:52
[Al]Well, something changes when I unplug it, right? I want it to run in unplugged mode even when plugged in. Can I do that?21:52
Charlottethanx guys21:52
Charlotte:)21:52
d3visi0nyeah, I used the same mirror rodya, but was wearing of a corrupt download21:52
Rodyakillall compiz.real Klowner21:52
Charlottenow is perfect21:52
BrucevdkKlowner: metacity --replace ?21:52
tuluI just got a "could not grab mouse" error, and i can't click on anything... any help?21:52
san|my ubuntu install is slow at startup and I don't have a splash screen21:52
endofailed to update, says it can't find audacious rep!!21:53
endoWTF21:53
Noldis there any way to fix the IDE-shown-as-SCSI bug?21:53
CryoniqIs the fglrx driver in repository broken for ati users?21:53
d3visi0nmmm cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp21:53
d3visi0n\o/21:53
Klownerthanks Rodya  and Brucevdk, I'll try those21:53
QuelTosMy 2.6.22 Kernel won't boot after upgrade to Gutsy from Feisty (seems like some weird thing about udev not finding disks or no modules loading). 2.6.20 boots fine but when the xserver is started I get just a "No Signal" from my monitor. Checked xorg.conf and deleted a not-supported resolution but I still don't get a gdm-login. Refresh-rates in xorg.conf should be fine as well and there are no reported errors. When I try to `/etc/init.d/gdm restart` it says th21:53
CheeseGardenerDo I have the latest version?  It says I'm running "Release 7.10 (gutsy).  Kernal Linux 2.6.22-14-generic.  Gnome 2.20.0"21:53
CheeseGardenerOr is that the beta?21:53
dieseldustI need some newbie tech support, is this a good place to start?21:53
tuluI just got a "could not grab mouse" error, and i can't click on anything... any help?21:53
RodyaNold: mine shows all my drives as scsi i think, doesn't hurt anything21:53
[Al]Klowner, there's a #compiz-fusion channel on this server too21:53
Dr_willisNold,  Thats a feature of the ide libraries/changes in the kernel .. i dident think it was enabled by default however.21:53
Klowner[Al]: ah ok, if this doesn't work I'll go hassle them :)21:53
tannerld_macAnyone on here know how to fix the Screen Resolution/Dual screen troubles with a ATI X1300?21:54
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[Al]Hmm this might be less generic than I think it is... I'll ask #kubuntu too21:54
neverblue2[Al} what are you trying to do, im curious21:54
NoldRodya: Jeah i think so, too but whatif it will be fixed and then it dosn't work anymore because he can't find my HDD because its not sda21:54
QuelTosUsing nvidia GeForce 4 TI4200 with proprietary drivers btw.21:54
Dr_willisHmm. all my drives shoiw up as sd##. oh wait.. they are sata. :) they always show up that way21:54
Cryoniqgeez cant even fully read what people say here because black garble lines turning up as it scrolls..21:54
neverblue2lol @ Dr21:54
RodyaNold: good point21:54
Lunzcan anyone suggest me a wireless usb that will installed automatically on gutsy?so i dont have download a crap like ndiswrapper etc etc..21:54
LarepCan anyone know how fix fonts on gusty ?21:55
Nold^^21:55
allo_Hi folks -- I "tried" to upgrade to  7.10 from 7.04 using the Update Manager (didn't have anything to patch). Got a bunch of network errors and now my system is in an "odd state". Is there a way to use the live CD to perform an upgrade?21:55
sebastesLarep: Do you have msttcorefonts installed?21:55
Noldwhats up with your fonts?21:55
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Larepsebastes, yes21:55
Dr_willisNold,  thats why the UUID stuff in the /etc/fstab is normally used instead of the /dev/hd or sd stuff.21:55
mjkelly93i need a hand with a usb sound card and alsa, ive been lookin all over and figured id try here, anyone?21:55
QuelTostannerld_mac: have you read the release notes.. there was something about ati and dual-screen problems21:55
Noldk21:55
tannerld_macQuelTos: no I haven't, do you ave a link?21:55
bmk781allo_: i know you can upgrade with the alt. cd, idk about the live21:55
mrjTHere's no way to configure grub from the grub menu is there21:56
allo_bmk781: thanks -- I'll take a look at that I guess21:56
Vosscan anyone say that an ATI Radeon Xpress 1150 will work well with Ubuntu21:56
* oranging says hi! Will putting "hardy" in /etc/apt/sources.list start giving me the next version of ubuntu in development?21:56
Lunzcan anyone suggest me a wireless usb adapter that will installed automatically on gutsy?21:56
dieseldustAnyone care to offer Newbie assistance?21:56
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Pirate_Huntercan some post me good gnome music applications (exclude rhythmbox & amarok)21:56
_gpg_is there any reposotory proposing the latest wxgtk for gusty please ?21:56
CryoniqAnyone have a well working gutsy with ATI9800Pro?21:56
neverblue2mjkelly93, what is your scenerio, and what are you trying to troubleshoot ?21:56
LarepMy font looks like http://i24.tinypic.com/2a7h1c6.png, very ugly21:56
Pirate_Hunter*someone21:56
QuelTostannerld_mac: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/71021:56
QuelTostannerld_mac: Dual-head (multi-screen) setups21:57
neverblue2Pirate_Hunter, xmms ?21:57
Rodyai have one Lunz, but i don't think they sell them anymore21:57
ANTDx1Cryoniq, a lot of people use vlc21:57
riotkittiePirate_Hunter: "good" is a relative term. what are you looking for? what arent you looking for?21:57
=== lordc is now known as LordC
Jaurusdieseldust Just ask the question...21:57
neverblue2i think he already said 'what he isnt looking for' :)21:57
NoldVLC is great! i use it only on windows and linux21:57
tannerld_macQuelTos: thanks :)21:57
Lunzrodya,then dont suggest..21:57
QuelTostannerld_mac: np :)21:57
CheeseGardenerit says I'm running "Release 7.10 (gutsy).  Kernal Linux 2.6.22-14-generic.  Gnome 2.20.0".  Is that the latest version of gutsy(full)??????21:57
mjkelly93my usb sound card is located with lsusb, but not with aplay -l21:57
Pirate_Hunterriotkittie: well ive found banshee and exaille but i want more caus eim not sure if those are even god... i wnat somehting close to amarok but for gnmoe21:57
neverblue2mjkelly93, explain usb soundcard21:58
Cryoniqvlc? What does that have to do with whole desktop getting black lines.. didnt even see your name now because gfx glitch over it.. .)21:58
riotkittieLunz: i have a D-Link DWL-122G, rev B1. it uses the ralink chipset, and it was supported out of the box on my first install of tribe 5. but i have been using ndiswrapper due to connectivity issues. you may have better luck.21:58
mrjLunz, that's a great way to get help.21:58
ANTDx1gui upgrade failed21:58
Pirate_Hunterneverblue2: will check it out it must be just as good as amarok21:58
ANTDx1I knew I should have just stuck with the terminal21:58
MadpilotCheeseGardener, yes21:58
r0b-is there a way to get Java of the Install CD21:58
mjkelly93its an external usb 5.1 Microdia sound card with a bunch of inputs21:58
neverblue2Pirate_Hunter, matters what your 'doing' with your music21:58
BTLLunz:3com officeconnect 3crusb10075 works for me21:58
NitecatCheeseGardener: yes21:58
mrjPirate_Hunter, Whats wrong with Amarok + kdelib?21:58
neverblue2xmms doesnt update your iPod, for example21:58
wbknoxhow do i edit the default boot screen?21:58
mrjPirate_Hunter, Plenty of us run Amarok on gnome, nothing comes close to amarok IMO21:59
riotkittiePirate_Hunter: ah. amarok i am not familiar with.  maybe bmpx? [i'm not sure how similar that is]21:59
Pirate_Hunterneverblue2: listening to it, streaming radio, wallpaper, adnimation, watching clips etc21:59
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kjI update to 7.10, but did nothing with the applications installed by Automatix. On Automatix' site, they state that there will be no update from 7.04 to 7.10. I have to uninstall everything before installing 7.10. How can I uninstall 7.04 appz when Automatix will not start in 7.10 ?21:59
QuelTosMy 2.6.22 Kernel won't boot after upgrade to Gutsy from Feisty (seems like some weird thing about udev not finding disks or no modules loading). 2.6.20 boots fine but when the xserver is started I get just a "No Signal" from my monitor. Checked xorg.conf and deleted a not-supported resolution but I still don't get a gdm-login. Refresh-rates in xorg.conf should be fine as well and there are no reported errors. When I try to `/etc/init.d/gdm restart` it says th21:59
mjkelly93before i purchased it i read that people had it working with ubuntu21:59
riotkittieaudacious <321:59
CheeseGardenerWhy didn't I have to do a massive update for Gutsy?  I had Gutsy(beta).  But when 11am came around, there was no big update.21:59
Lunzbtl,auto install?21:59
neverblue2mjkelly93, when addressing me, please tag your reply with my nick, so I can pick u out of the sea of IRC-text21:59
riotkittie!Automatix21:59
ajorgHow do I disable libata and / or force ide-generic?21:59
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)21:59
spdfCheeseGardener, Nothing really changed since your last update21:59
Pirate_Huntermrj: amrok kde it still uses kde on gnome and use extra process and i want to try something else on gutsy21:59
Cryoniqallright.. this flgrx driver is going to burn.. how it ended up in repository is for me strange.. works really bad..21:59
riotkittiekj: i suggest a clean install.21:59
mjkelly93ok neverblue222:00
Lunzriotkitte,i am done with d-link and anything with ndiswrapper22:00
Noldhm, i will go install now guys ^^ even with the IDE-show-as-SCSI bug ^^ i will be back xD22:00
mrjPirate_Hunter, uh, ok22:00
kj!Automatix22:00
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)22:00
LjLmrj: sure you can configure grub from the menu, just (i think) only temporarily. hit "e".22:00
neverblue2mjkelly93, so lsusb can view the device, thats a good start, have you attempted to use the audio in any applications ?22:00
ezquerroemerald disapeared after 7.10 update, can't reinstall it because broken dependencies. need help!22:00
SeanConneryhi, is there a way to search a smb share recursively22:00
mjkelly93neverblue2 no, i cant select it with any applications22:00
lynucspretty much action today?22:00
tuluI got a "oops, can't grab your mouse" error.... does anyone know what's going on? I can't seem to click on much22:00
riotkittieLunz: that bad, eh? :P22:00
lynucs:D22:00
tuluthe mouse is very erratic22:00
mjkelly93neverblue2 its not an option for audacity, xmms, or any others22:00
SeanConneryhi, is there a way to search a smb share recursively22:00
BrightEyes`how's new ubuntu?22:01
riotkittieBrightEyes`: new. and ubuntu-y.22:01
SeanConneryBrightEyes`, just fine22:01
QuelTosSeanConnery: mhh.. i think i would mount it22:01
neverblue2mjkelly93, lets work with just one, lets try in xmms, as I am familar with it22:01
SeanConneryQuelTos, ok :(22:01
CryoniqBrightEyes`: except for the black lines all over everything that moves.. it seem to work..22:01
ANTDx1new and ubuntu-y...heh.22:01
neverblue2mjkelly93, lsusb, can you put the output from that command on pastebin please ?22:01
neverblue2!paste | mjkelly9322:01
ubotumjkelly93: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)22:01
Lunzriotkitte,it give me such a headache and i just want to connect to internet..not playing with drivers...22:01
IrvineBrightEyes`: new'ish and ubunt'y and still on the way to Russia22:01
caesar_Does anyone know where I can find a .deb file for hamachi?22:01
tuluanyone? Erratic mouse... "couldn't grab your mouse" error22:01
BTLyeah, a few video issues22:01
BrightEyes`SeanConnery: im using pclinuxos now and im very satisfied.kubuntu was awful22:02
QuelTosSeanConnery: i assume you want to use it for a script?22:02
mjkelly93neverblue2 sure22:02
wckdkl0wnhas anyone else had the install of 7.10 hang up at 82% when it says it is checking mirrors?22:02
mjkelly93neverblue2 lemme go look inot that22:02
SeanConneryQuelTos, no, I just want to search for a bunch of files @ WORK22:02
tuluplease help22:02
LjLBrightEyes`: do you have a support question, or do you just want to describe how awful ubuntu is?22:02
Alp`i cant use all my extra keys on my keyboard since i upgraded to gutsy. volume works, skip track doesnt. i have gnome and installed amarok... i tried to use keytouch for configuration (it has an amarok plugin too), doesnt work...22:02
Pirate_HunterWell going to use exaile as a music player it is the closest to amarok but for gnome meaning it uses gnome components no kde libraries22:02
Hazi just installed gutsy and when it got to the USplash an error came up on my monitor saying "OUT of Range" with some info about my monitor22:02
Hazany ideas?22:03
bruenigwckdkl0wn, checking mirrors could mean that it is going through each of them to test speed which would obviously take some time, abstraction makes it hard to understand what is going on so yeah could be that. Hooray gui.22:03
Alp`i have a cherry cymotion xpress22:03
bmk782caesar_: i dont believe there is a deb for hamachi but....................."automatix can install it".................22:03
IrvineWell, another question for everyone.. How can I get smth like this: http://www.linux.org.ru/gallery/2197430.png22:03
hirak99!ot| BrightEyes`22:03
ubotuBrightEyes`: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!22:03
sebastesHaz: It might be trying to use a refresh rate that's too high22:03
CryoniqAnyone have a well working gutsy with ATI9800Pro?22:03
bruenig!automatix | bmk782 caesar_22:03
ubotubmk782 caesar_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)22:03
Pirate_HunterHaz: decrease screen resolution22:03
LjL!automatix | bmk78, caesar_22:03
ubotubmk78, caesar_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)22:03
BrightEyes`LjL: how to you compile a fortran program with gfortran?22:03
mrjHaz, refresh rate/res22:03
LarepCan anyone know how fix fonts on gusty ?22:03
Nitecatbye all22:03
mjkelly93neverblue2 ill post a few outputs there22:03
neverblue2mjkelly93, sounds good22:03
bruenigBrightEyes`, I believe you just type make22:03
tuluanyone know how to restart synaptic touchpad?22:03
madsy_how to install wine?22:03
LjLBrightEyes`: g77 filename - i'd assume22:03
LjL!wine > madsy_    (madsy_, see the private message from Ubotu)22:03
bruenigBrightEyes`, if there is a makefile at least22:03
sebastesHaz: You might need to boot into recovery and edit your xorg.conf with your monitor's proper refresh/res22:03
ezquerrodoes anybody knows how to reinstall emerald in gutsy after updating?22:03
Hazmrj, Pirate_Hunter, how would i do that using the alternate installer?22:04
wckdkl0wnbruenig: its been at 82% for the past 20 mins lol22:04
Hazoh i see22:04
LunzBTK,doeat the 3com officeconnect 3crusb10075 is auto install by gutsy?22:04
Hazthanks sebastes and others :)22:04
mrjHaz, gsksudo gedit /etc/xorg.conf22:04
Xsylottehmm22:04
LunzBTL,does the 3com officeconnect 3crusb10075 is auto install by gutsy?22:04
bruenigwckdkl0wn, well user-friendliness takes precedence over usefulness so just wait I guess or kill it, whichever22:04
weltalldoes anyone know how to remove completely the backlight management in ubuntu? i'ts making me have an headcache! :S22:04
colby1i'm guessing the severs are a little slow today?22:04
ANTDx1a little22:04
Xsylottegutsy is strange, i have internet connection, but i can't configure it with pppoeconfig, it can't find any connection.22:04
mrjcolby1, use the torrent22:04
LjLcolby1: good guess.22:04
BTLLunz: yes, actually did..22:04
nicholascolby1: torrents rock22:05
Pirate_HunterHaz: you cant a least i dont know how, just install it "yes it will be a pain" than decrease resolution and it should be fixed if not than will ahve to mess with x server and i hope it doesnt get to that22:05
colby1yea i had to download gutsy via torrent.. worked great22:05
sebastesweltall: Check the power management app in systems>prefs22:05
real-atehi everyone, i'm coming in to find some help with my bug "Bug #154010" i am trying to update to gutsy, anyone want to brainstorm a bug with me?22:05
tulu"could not grab your mouse" error.. anyone know whats up?22:05
LunzBTL,what you mean ny actually did?22:05
weltallsebastes: i've checked it there is anything to disable it22:05
neverblue2caesar_> looks like you can probably just compile Hamachi from the source22:05
BTLLunz: well, not actually, it did. Period :)22:05
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[chr0n0s]someone help me with xorg on ati , giving me no screens found error22:05
LunzBTL,ok im going to buy now...22:06
BTLLunz: worked in 7.4 too22:06
Xsylotteis that a bug or ?22:06
neverblue2!pastebin | [chr0n0s]22:06
ubotu[chr0n0s]: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)22:06
nante1bruenig: I think ctrl-alt-4 during the install will show you what is going on22:06
TaurshazHow do I increase the size of my linux ext3 partition?22:06
generalsnusis HDA Intel intigrated sound suppose to work in 7.10 ?22:06
QuelTosSeanConnery: smbclient seems to be able to do some recursion22:06
Lunzbtl,thanks22:06
riotkittieTaurshaz: use gparted22:06
Lunzciao22:06
SeanConneryQuelTos, ya, I just mounted it22:06
caesar_neverblue2: yeah. I have it "isntalled" but the trouble is, when I follow the instructions in the README, I don't get ANY output in the console (and the README says I'm supposed to)22:06
bruenignante1, perhaps, in the past ttys were not usable, but it has been a long time since I used an install cd22:06
mjkelly93neverblue2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41129/22:06
caesar_hamachi-init does nothing.22:06
QuelTosSeanConnery: ah.. ok22:06
BTLLunz: no problem.22:06
neverblue2caesar_, so its installed ?22:06
nante1bruenig: oops, ctrl-alt-f422:07
mrjWhat's an alternative to locate since my new 7.10 apparently doesnt have a n slocate.db22:07
bruenigyeah I figured you meant that22:07
ajorggeneralsnus: for many configurations of that chipset yes, but some are broken22:07
thedonvaughnmrj: run sudo updatedb22:07
real_ateanyone want to help me with this bug "Bug #154010"... or am i in the wrong place? a bit of direction will be much apreciated22:07
real_ate;)22:07
caesar_neverblue2: I THINK so. But it doesn't work at all22:07
extrakickcan i ask if any1 knows how i can remove my ati 9550 from the graphics card blacklist in 7.1022:07
murkyMurkmrj: locate22:07
[chr0n0s]neverblue, what do u want me to pastebin, xorg?22:07
mrjthedonvaughn, danke22:07
neverblue2Caesar, 'work' is relative to the user :)22:07
zamaraxhey everyone; I'm curious to know, is it possible to log back onto the same ssh session if you close the terminal?22:07
speaker219_Hey guys I need some help here. Is it possible to install Ubuntu from a USB Drive?22:07
WalkbossHey, can someone help me out with a huge issue I'm having with firefox?22:08
nicholaszamarax: screen22:08
riotkittiereal_ate: rather than tossing out a bug #, elaborating on the problem might do a world of good to have somebody respond22:08
real_ateriotkittie: thanks22:08
zamaraxwhat is screen?22:08
[chr0n0s]someone help me with xorg on ati , giving me no screens found error on startx22:08
QuelToszamarax: nope.. but there are some nice tools which allow that.. e.g. see screen22:08
nicholasreal_ate: or url to bug. searching in launchpad now is slow22:08
neverblue2ok, so mjkelly93 can you open xmms/options/preferences/audio io plugins/output plugin22:08
GiugiChucksera22:08
techjimanyone have any idea how to fix choppy frames for legacy nvidia cards?  I just updated to gutsy?22:08
mjkelly93neverblue2 ok im there22:08
neverblue2mjkelly93, ensure ALSA is chosen22:08
generalsnusIs there a trick to get HDA Intel sound to work in 7.10?  becouse my sound manager see the HDA Intel thing.. just not comming any sound.. at first boot it worked ok, even worked on live-cd22:08
extrakickalso is there an easy way to have dual screens enabled in gutsy22:08
GiugiChuckXubuntu 7.10 x quando è fissata la relase?22:08
mjkelly93neverblue2 it is22:08
neverblue2mjkelly93, then configure22:09
QuelToszamarax: screen is a nice tool that is kind of a windowmanager for terminals ;)22:09
extrakickcause i can see the option but cant get it working22:09
extrakickhahah22:09
real_atehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/15401022:09
real_atethats the launchpad bug22:09
QuelToszamarax: and you can reattach to previous session22:09
mjkelly93neverblue2 my usb card is not listed there, only my onboard card is22:09
neverblue2mjkelly, you will see a list of devices, you want the one that matches your lsusb listing22:09
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GreencookieI can't install gutsy from boot disk. Help22:09
WalkbossIt seems sites with javascript crash firefox everytime. I disable javascript and I can visit these sites just fine. As you can imagine, it is a majour annoyance.22:09
real_ateteh problem arrived from the package kde-desktop, or in fact i think it was kubuntu-desktop22:09
zamaraxI see, but what if I already have the session open, can I close it then screen it aftwards, or do I have to do it before hand?22:09
[chr0n0s]someone help me with xorg on ati mobility x2300, giving me no screens found error on startx22:09
Greencookie!gutsy22:09
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents22:09
neverblue2hw:0,0, or something similar22:10
GiugiChucksorry...any1 knows when Xubuntu 7.10 is planned to be relased?22:10
mjkelly93neverblue2 my intel output works fine like i can hear onboard sound just fine but it just wont install my usb card22:10
Greencookietoday guigiChuck22:10
Pirate_Hunterisnt there a list online with recommended apps that users should have or download?22:10
Greencookiebut I can't get it to install.22:10
neverblue2mjkelly93, how many audio devices are listed, and whats the locations ?22:10
Greencookiei just downloaded the iso for 64bit.22:10
neverblue20,0....22:10
zamaraxI see, but what if I already have the session open, can I close it then screen it aftwards, or do I have to do it before hand?22:10
[chr0n0s]someone help me with xorg on ati mobility x2300, giving me no screens found error on startx... on gutsy22:10
jorgeArggreeting from argentina22:11
neverblue2!pastebin | [chr0n0s]22:11
ubotu[chr0n0s]: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)22:11
gus3Does anyone know how to tell who has a file open? (From the command line, the file is shared via samba, it's an office 2007 doc.)22:11
mjkelly93neverblue2 2 are listed 0,0 and 0,622:11
GiugiChuckuh..oks, but in the ISO I can download from Xubuntu.com is there Italian languages included? (sorry 4 eng)22:11
zmityahi all22:11
Greencookiechr0n0s did it install fine?22:11
LarepCan anyone know how fix fonts on gusty ?22:11
mjkelly93neverblue2 nothing about usb22:11
[chr0n0s]neverblue, what do u want me to pastebin, xorg.conf?22:11
zmityaI would like to calibrate an LG 1510sf on a dapper22:11
GreencookieGiugiChuck: Im not sure bout that ull have to check. Most prolly there is.22:11
neverblue2mjkelly93, I would check to see what someone did, or the forums22:11
zmityabut ev_calibrate needs glibc 2.422:11
GiugiChuckoks, tnx a lot for now!22:12
BOZGany ideas how I can stop compiz opening up windows, with them mounted against the taskbar?22:12
GiugiChuckbye22:12
zmityahow should I calibrate it ?22:12
mjkelly93neverblue2 ive been reading the forums for over 4 hours now and nothing22:12
jorgeArgdid somebody have complete success installing 7.10 on a presario f500 ?22:12
tux97hi22:12
BOZGI lose the title bar of all my windows as a result unless I move them22:12
fieteXVideo does't work. video is green. driver: radeon. Any ideas?22:12
Xsylottewhat means "Roaming mode enabled?"22:12
mjkelly93neverblue2 i just cant figure out why alsa will not recognize it as a sound card22:12
neverblue2mjkelly93, do you have speakers plugged into the sound card?22:12
[chr0n0s]neverblue, what do u want me to pastebin, xorg.conf?22:12
GreencookiejorgeArg: I havent been able to install 7.10 either. what error are u getting?22:12
mjkelly93neverblue2 no i do not22:12
speaker219_Hey guys I need some help here. Is it possible to install Ubuntu from a USB Drive?22:12
zmityadoes sy have a ev_calibrate binary compiled with libc 2.5 ?22:12
Azzkikrim gonna do a full reinstall of Gutsy. A lot works buggy now22:12
markvandenborreI'm trying to remedy a problem with deskbar-applet22:12
mjkelly93neverblue2 ill try that right now22:12
neverblue2[chr0n0s], anything you might believe will help, output from errors, etc...22:12
Pirate_Hunteris it normal for me to get constant spikes on my cpu when using gutsy? it didnt happen on feisty22:13
GreencookieAzzkikr: Did you manage to install Gutsy smoothly?22:13
markvandenborrehow would I look for error logs from that one, except via /var/log?22:13
neverblue2mjkelly93, try with something plugged in, also try #alsa22:13
MurielGodoispeacker219: Im pretty sure so22:13
joff<Xsylotte> if enable it wil managed by na-applet22:13
murkyMurkspeaker219_: a simple google search has your answer22:13
mjkelly93neverblue2 i actually been asking in alsa but noone anwered me22:13
neverblue2patience, its only sound :)22:13
MurielGodoi!google22:13
yasperhi22:13
mjkelly93neverblue2 im trying that now with the speakers plugged in22:13
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youknowmeI'm about to start the upgrade when I realize that I have not uninstalled my graphics driver that I installed with envy. Will it cause a problem or will it be fine?22:13
Xsylotteproblem is this, it says "No network connection", but as you can see, i am online....22:13
Mr-Snicki tried installing, virtualbox.. but something went wrong. so i tried removing it from the terminal. "ty@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get remove virtualbox" and it returned, E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."  can someone please help me?22:13
fietePirate_Hunter: there is a indexing deamon running in background. initially this takes some time22:13
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux22:14
neverblue2youknowme, I wouldnt suggest envy22:14
gonzo_Hey everyone.22:14
neverblue2!envy > youknowme22:14
WalkbossPlease help?22:14
Pirate_Hunterfiete: yeha dont know why they added that, ive stoped it when i installed it, i stoped it straight away22:14
gonzo_Would someone help me get desktop effects working on gutsy?22:14
murkyMurkXsylotte: that sounds like pretty standard for the gnome wifi applet thing..it's naff22:14
DavyDeagleQuestion, why do visual effects say Composite Extension not available?? ATI22:14
neverblue2!ask | Walkboss22:14
ubotuWalkboss: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)22:14
sisseckhi everyone, quick question: How do i kill my xserver?22:14
mjkelly93neverblue2 no luck after restarting the alsa process, do u know where the main #alsa channel is located? what server?22:14
OpenSorceserious question, I've just finished a review of Kubuntu 7.10 in which it fails to pass the "basics".....if I get permission to wait 2 weeks does anyone think it'll make a difference?22:14
nickrudmarkvandenborre: try ~/.xsession-errors22:14
opencanhi there. how can i make a new partition with ubuntu? (i want to install windows 98 on the same machine)22:14
XsylottemurkyMurk, everything worked in feisty just fine ?22:14
sebastesFor Ubuntu install from USB, try this link http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/install-ubuntu-from-usb/22:14
yasperi have a desktop folder which has got a lock symbol on it - I would like some help in deleting it please.22:14
Xsylotte*.22:15
gus3nevermind, thanks anyway.22:15
Pirate_Hunterfiete: but still I get this weird 70%+ spikes on cpu when doing common tasks like browsing22:15
WalkbossI did, I guess it got lost in the shuffle22:15
atlefsisseck: ctrl-alt-backspace22:15
youknowmeneverblue2, I already have it installed and have used it. and I will continue to use it. what I want to know is if the driver that was installed with it will cause problems during upgrade?22:15
WalkbossIt seems sites with javascript crash firefox everytime. I disable javascript and I can visit these sites just fine. As you can imagine, it is a majour annoyance.22:15
[chr0n0s]neverblue2, http://pastebin.com/m7382662c22:15
neverblue2mjkelly93, here :) possibly try #xmms, they know a thing or two about audio22:15
Xsylottei configured my connection with "sudo pppoeconf"22:15
markvandenborrenickrud, thx! have to do a fairly gutsy presentation22:15
joshjoshOpenSorce, Link?22:15
joff<sisseck> ctrl+ alt+back22:15
mjkelly93hmm ok ill check that next22:15
Xsylottebut now it can't find connection.22:15
thedonvaughnOpenSorce: failed the basics eh?22:15
sisseckctrl-alt-backspace just restarts my xserver, i need it to stay dead22:15
mjkelly93neverblue2 thanks for the help22:15
gonzo_Anyone? Desktop effects? I thought it came installed standard ...22:15
jorgeArgdifferent weird things Greencookie, the only (F6) option that works was noapic irqpoll acpi=off but sound works bad (kind a buzz) and in one try it works well after reboot, and in another installation stays bad, and always, the battery indicates 0% no matter the status of the charge22:15
neverblue2youknowme, thats hard to say22:15
murkyMurksisseck: /etc/init.d/gdm stop   or just use ctl+alt+bckspc22:15
thedonvaughngonzo_: it does as long as your card supports it22:15
joff<gonzo ye they are22:15
youknowmeneverblue2, I have my system backup if it goes bad, but still..22:16
neverblue2[chr0n0s], BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" <-- this might be incorrect22:16
gonzo_My card supports it. I had gutsy working perfectly, but had to reinstall after some bad drivers knocked it out.22:16
thedonvaughnOpenSorce: what basic did it fail out of curioisity?  But no waiting 2 weeks shouldn't fix anything.  It's been released22:16
gonzo_Now that I'm back up, I can't get it working.22:16
joffbut doesn't start if any trouble happend22:16
fietePirate_Hunter: sorry, my system runs smoothly now22:16
OpenSorceBasics: Keyboard, Mouse, Sound, Video (proprietary drivers incl.), Networking (WiFi incl.)22:16
gonzo_What do I have to download?22:16
neverblue2youknowme, im glad someone does backups :)22:16
DavyDeagleUNable to activate visual effects composite extension not available22:16
thedonvaughnOpenSorce: glad all of those work for me.22:16
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[chr0n0s]neverblue2, imo its right,, any suggestions as to what it shud be22:16
yasperi have a desktop folder which has got a lock symbol on it - I would like some help in deleting it please.22:16
sebastesOpenSorce: Do you have weird hardware?22:16
r0b-brb22:16
thedonvaughnOpenSorce: but no it won't be any different.  Go ahead and paste your FUD22:16
lextonthe 7.10 install stalls for me when configuring apt, and always at 82 percent22:16
OpenSorcethedonvaughn, it does not setup wifi or offer ndiswrapper to assist in setup22:17
extrakicki think im gonna wait for a onth or so b4 i install gutsy, still too much going on wit it22:17
extrakickhahaha22:17
neverblue2[chr0n0s], obviously suggestions wont be accurate, but I hear lspci should tell you :)22:17
Pirate_Hunterfiete: dont get me worg it runs smoothly, might also be that im overcloaking but i get this weird spikes, it just annoyes me22:17
gonzo_Nuh-uh. I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 1100, running on an Acer Aspire 5050 laptop22:17
Gribokok, this may be a stupid question, but can I upgrade from the CD (iso), without being connected to the internet?22:17
youknowmeneverblue2, thats what I'm saying lol. Not a lot of people do, but it is very smart XD22:17
lysce1anyone running OpenVpn on 7.02?22:17
Vletyasper: If you open up a terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop" then "sudo rm thefilename" that should do away with it22:17
thedonvaughngonzo_: did you install the restircted drivers?22:17
thedonvaughngonzo_: and XGL?22:17
gonzo_Yes22:17
sebastesGribok: Alternate cd should let you do that22:17
jburdUh, I guess the tracker is taking a beating.22:17
neverblue2youknowme, VERY smart22:17
CryoniqWhat does this mean from dmesg?  45.153832] [fglrx] Internal AGP is not supported in 2.6 kernel.22:17
Cryoniq[   45.153958] [fglrx:firegl_unlock] *ERROR* Process 5105 using kernel context 022:17
yasperthanks Vlet22:17
gonzo_What's XGL?22:17
youknowmeneverblue2, ok upgrade time, thanks for the help!22:17
gonzo_Don't think I installed that.22:18
gordonjcpI'm sure this is a silly question but how on earth do I disable that annoying "new mail" popup?22:18
nickrudgonzo_: you don't need the extra gdm login stuff anymore22:18
murkyMurklexton: mine always paused at 82%..it's downloading from the, Currently that bit is slow..if your net link is down it will hang there22:18
zamaraxQuelTos - just wanted to let you know that I got your messages and I really appreciate that, I can't PM back because I'm unregistered. thanks!22:18
iStiKsis there a working torrent for gutsy?22:18
[chr0n0s]neverblue2, its 01:00.022:18
thedonvaughngonzo_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl  -  ATI can not use compiz or any compositing without XGL. No AIGLX in ATI22:18
jorgeArgI tested livecd and alternate22:18
MurielGodoiA basic question.. what changes in alternate cd?22:18
neverblue2youknowme, get rid of envy :)22:18
espirewhat does the i386 DVD have that the CD doesn't?22:18
QuelToszamarax: np :)22:18
gonzo_How do I get XGL? Package manager?22:18
max___does anybody know how i can record from microphone without hearing it on the speakers?22:18
thefabercan someone please h elp me22:18
neverblue2[chr0n0s], ok, so it is right, and your error is?22:18
Griboksebastes, thank you... that's what I downloaded from torrent, I figured I could do that and figured it would be faster22:18
scottDkoDerhi22:18
neverblue2!ask | thefaber22:18
ubotuthefaber: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)22:18
joff<gonzo_> What's XGL? opengl on xserver but it is already installed22:18
lysce1I try to do apt-get install openvpn and it says it can't find /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions ... how do I overcome this?22:18
gordonjcpmax___: turn down the playback volume for the mike22:18
frank_MurielGodoi: alternate cd has a text based installer22:18
sebastesGribok22:18
max___i did that22:18
Vletgnome applets22:18
branindorPlease i need help, i cant install anything in gutsy22:18
thedonvaughnOpenSorce: and btw that is not Ubuntu's fault.  That is the developer of the wireless card you are using's fault.  So put the blaim in the proper place.22:18
frank_MurielGodoi: it is not a livecd22:18
max___it's muted... still hear it22:18
youknowmeneverblue2, but restricted driver manager doesn't keep up to date with the latest drivers..22:18
neverblue2MurielGodoi, changes, what do you mean exactly ?22:18
MurielGodoimax__: mute it in alsamixer22:19
jorgeArginstall 7.10 in presario F500 is a pain in the a**22:19
neverblue2youknowme, true22:19
Ngcan I trigger a suspend from the commandline?22:19
murkyMurkMurielGodoi: alt CD just doesn't have the liveCD front end..you install from an ncurses interface22:19
sebastesGribok: If it doesn't pop up when you insert the cd, there's a CLI way to get it going22:19
iStiKsis there a working torrent for gutsy?22:19
thefaberok. Im new to linux and i cant install anything getting error Could not open the file /home/andy/Desktop/NVIDI…_64-100.14.19-pkg2(2).run using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding.22:19
Charlottehey is there any one heard aboute "laptop mode" in gutsy and how to enable it22:19
QuelTos!XGL22:19
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager22:19
[chr0n0s]neverblue2, no screens found22:19
max___i muted it... but when i toggle record on the capture channel i hear it22:19
youknowmeneverblue2, if it cause problems this time I will ditch it, k? :)22:19
MurielGodoigood...now i got it. Tkx all.22:19
OpenSorcethedonvaughn, whatever....it doesn't work I have to write it that way22:19
neverblue2[chr0n0s], the exact error might be better :)22:19
avarnerhey guys is there a good way to pass arguments to compiz on startup? i have it enabled and all that,  just want it to pass --indirect-rendering on startup so i can get past the blackout22:19
gonzo_Okay. I'm downloading XGL. Anything else after that?22:19
neverblue2youknowme, sounds fair :)22:19
VletiStiKs: try http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent22:19
NemesisDhey guys, whats the word on upgrading from feisty to gutsy, any risk involved?22:19
gonzo_Don't I need to get the program that lets me configure it?22:19
newguyhey how do i choose which eye candy to use with gutsy(it has compiz installed by default but no menu for the graphics only "low or "high gfx)22:19
jburdThe torrent tracker isn't working22:20
youknowmebye guyz I'm off to upgrade!22:20
jburdAh, started.22:20
neverblue2gl youknow22:20
CryoniqVlet: yeah.. dont have an ATI card.. ~22:20
scottDkoDerI'm trying to have a script start via sessions and it works on one pc wont work on the slow one.  command is gksudo command, but it never lets me enter my password.  How can I start the script a different way? (eg Not in sessions)22:20
joffgonzo---- which edition?22:20
MurielGodoiyouknowme: see you at gutsy :D22:20
gonzo_gutsy22:20
joff7.04 or 7.1022:20
murkyMurkNemesisD: killed me stone dead...i'll always install fresh22:20
thefaberi cant install anything i keep getting errors22:20
joffok22:20
gonzo_7.1022:20
avarnernewguy: install compizconfig-settings-manager22:20
scottDkoDerDamn release day... :)22:20
VletNemesisD: nothing critical - just usual scattered problems some people have with vid cards / network cards22:20
newguyah ok ty22:20
iStiKsVlet: thanks the one in the site seemed to give me errors22:20
joffyou have already xgl in thi version22:20
VletCryoniq: huh?22:20
avarnernewguy: np22:20
murkyMurkthefaber: are you using the Applications -> Add/remove GUI?22:21
NemesisDmurkyMurk, is it a thing where its a matter of time and that i should wait? i don't have enough combined free disk space to back all my crap up on my 2 computers that use ubuntu22:21
lysce1anyone have any ideas for my openvpn issue?22:21
thefaberno22:21
thedonvaughnOpenSorce: yah i know, and everyone who has intelligence will laugh at your article.  That's like me writing an article blaiming Toyota because I bought 22 inch tires that were made for a diff truck and diff size.  That company did not release or help our Linux developers in getting their card working.  Windows has all their drivers submitted upsource.22:21
rjonesxis there anyway to change where I am downloading traditional updates from? I am not downloading the upgrade... but things are slow as crap, I am assuming because the defaults servers are taxed to hell.22:21
[chr0n0s]neverblue2, http://pastebin.com/m1ee89c9c22:21
thedonvaughnOpenSorce: i'm just saying, if you wanted to actually write truth. I'm helping you.  BUt go ahead and continue to write MS pro FUD.22:21
yasperVlet: that did not work as it is a directory rather than a file!22:21
gonzo_My sound card doesn't work either.22:21
murkyMurkNemesisD: you only need to back up /home really. No, updates are always flakey at least for me22:21
OpenSorcethedonvaughn, it works in Mandriva right out of the box22:21
Vletrjonesx: if you go to System >> Administration >> Software Sources, you can pick what mirror you get stuff from, and pick 'Other...'22:21
CryoniqAnyone with a working Gutsy without gfx glitches etc and a ATI9800Pro card that can for the love of baby jesus share their xorg.conf and how they got the crap to work?22:22
nickrudOpenSorce: as a long time ubuntu user ;) write it as it is. Wireless didn't work and ndiswrapper was not offered.22:22
BTLAnyone got issues with ATI IGM chipsets on 7.10 ?22:22
joff<gonzo_> do you tryed witha new fresh inst?22:22
rjonesxohk, thx22:22
thefaberwhat am i supposed to do in the add/remove gui22:22
scottDkoDerI'm trying to have a script start via sessions and it works on one pc but wont work on another one.  Identical setup on both (ubuntu feisty).  Command is gksudo <command>, but it never lets me enter my password.  Says "Starting admin app" then that's it.  How can I start the script a different way? (eg Not in sessions)22:22
gonzo_I've got a Realtek High Definition Audio card, onboard. When I tried to install the Realtek linux drivers, it KILLED my gutsy install. I had to format and start anew.22:22
BTLI ment IGP22:22
Clearze1rjonesx: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list the prefix on the repo designates a country the server is dedicated to. eg us.ubuntu is a us server22:22
chepra_anyone upgraed a system and using Luks? I need to have the kerneml modules for aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 :X what to do?22:22
Vletyasper: ahh, then instead of just "rm thefilename", do "rm -Rf thefilename", but be careful, as that will permanently delete it and all it's contents permanently22:22
gordonjcpOpenSorce: ndiswrapper didn't work?  There's a simple answer to that22:22
rjonesxcrap, not an option22:22
yasperok - thanks Vlet22:23
neverblue2[chr0n0s], this is interesting: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" AND BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"22:23
OpenSorcenick58b, remember that this is for newbs. The current article states: "Networking (WiFi incl.): Failed to setup at all and no software provided to assist setup."22:23
murkyMurkthefaber: it's pretty obvious mate...just pick any programs you want and it'll download and install them for you22:23
nickrudthefaber: any particular reason you want to use the driver you downloaded from nvidia, rather than the version offered by ubuntu?22:23
OpenSorcestupid nick-complete!22:23
lavender_dreamQuestion - Where can I get to this "alleged" so called 'Firefox plugins in Ubuntu'? I'm trying to see the menu like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=pfs3.png22:23
NemesisDmurkyMurk, thats 4.7gb still :/22:23
neverblue2[chr0n0s], that should be your issue, whats your lspci listing, pastebin it22:23
gordonjcpOpenSorce: the simple answer is don't use cheap crappy wifi cards22:23
rjonesxany reason why "Software Sources" would not be available in my administration list?22:23
TaurshazI've tryed both Gparter and Paragon Partition manager but none of them will let me make it over 2 GBs and I have atleast 20GBs free.22:23
rjonesxthis is in fesity?22:23
NemesisDmurkyMurk, oh wait, that sounds about dvd sized :D22:23
mc44OpenSorce: the software is provided, there is help everywhere explaining how to use it22:24
sainzeoafter installing the restricted drivers for my ati card, i'm noticing very low fps in glxgears and also, server glx vendor string: SGI after running glxinfo - any ideas?22:24
Cryoniqfunny.. when I used fglrxinfo to get some answers.. xorg died and restarted..22:24
Clearze1lavender_dream: Just run sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree22:24
dwxreapercheap wifi cards cause problems anyways22:24
yasperVlet - that worked. can you only do that from a command line?22:24
nickrudOpenSorce: don't forget to mention that it can be done manually22:24
Cryoniqand using aticonfig coredump..22:24
Vletrjonesx: not sure.... load up your 'main menu' control panel and see if it's turned on22:24
OpenSorcegordonjc1, ndiswrapper was not even installed by default.....22:24
murkyMurkNemesisD: OUCH! I've had my /home on a separate disk for ages now...makes reinstalls mostly safe unless i forget which disk ;-)22:24
mc44OpenSorce: yes, it's on the CD though22:24
gordonjcpOpenSorce: who cares?22:24
colby1sux.. still stuck at 82%. Is it because the servers are slow today?22:24
OpenSorcenickrud, these are newbs...they do nothing manually22:24
gordonjcpOpenSorce: ndiswrapper is rubbish22:24
murkyMurkdwxreaper: amen to that22:24
frank_OpenSorce: what is the article you are talking about? link?22:24
d1n0Anyone know how I can get my TV to work? It's connected through S-Video! Worked out-of-the-box with Ati Radeon HD2400 as a Clone, but I changed my videocard to Ati Radeon X800GT......Running Xubuntu btw!22:24
gordonjcpOpenSorce: buy a card that works22:24
mc44OpenSorce: and there are clear instructions on how to use ndiswrapper22:24
neverblue2colbert, torrent ?22:24
lavender_dreamClearze1: I'm trying to get to that menu to know how to learn how to get there, any ideas?22:24
nickrudOpenSorce: true, but they also should be eased along ;)22:24
TaurshazI've tryed both Gparter and Paragon Partition manager but none of them will let me modify my linux EXT3 partition over 2 GBs and I have atleast 20GBs free.22:24
thefaberoh i cant set my resolution more than 102422:24
LM22are some of the default repo's down, because I can't check for updates22:24
neverblue2colby1,  torrent ?22:24
OpenSorcefrank_, it isn't published yet22:24
Vletyasper: normally you wouldn't have to, but if you created things as the superuser, then you need to remove them as the superuser22:24
colby1no i mean installing.. when it is scanning for mirror22:24
Eoghanhere, simple quick question,22:24
LM22on gutsy that is22:24
murkyMurkcolby1: yes..it's trying to download and they are over stretched22:25
[chr0n0s]neverblue2, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon X230022:25
frank_OpenSorce: oh ok22:25
thefaberand i just basically want to know how to install anything22:25
lavender_dreamClearze1: Sorry for my grammar, I haven't slept since the release/format.22:25
rjonesxso weird - i had to instal update-manager today because that wasn't listed either...22:25
mc44OpenSorce: cards that need ndiswrapper can't be set up automatically22:25
OpenSorceok, guys....well the devs asked me to wait so I will22:25
Clearze1lavender_dream: I don't know. I don't use it, sorry.22:25
neverblue2[chr0n0s], where is your xorg.conf file located (that you posted) ?22:25
nickrudthefaber: install nvidia-settings , try that. And the best way to install software is system->admin->synaptic22:25
nightzwow us mirror is really slow22:25
antcpu scaling - how can i increase the clock speed? i'm running at 1.3ghz when it should be 1.73. the max setting in the cpu scaling applet is 1.322:25
mgHow can I install some older kernel than 2.6.22-14?22:25
lavender_dreamClearze1: Okay thanks anyway.22:25
yasperok Vlet thanks22:25
mc44OpenSorce: and waiting won't change it not working on ndiswrapper cards unless you actually set up ndiswrapper22:25
max___so... anybody good at recording in ubuntu? could someone help me?22:25
[chr0n0s]neverblue2, /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:25
TaurshazI've tryed both Gparter and Paragon Partition manager but none of them will let me modify my linux EXT3 partition over 2 GBs and I have atleast 20GBs free.22:25
thefaberok what is system admin>symptac22:25
OpenSorcemc44, no but in Mandriva it provides a gui interface that uses a windows install cd to make the driver....so yeah they kinda can22:25
Tokkeuhhello22:25
scottDkoDerI'm trying to have a script start via sessions and it works on one pc but wont work on another one.  Identical setup on both (ubuntu feisty).  Command is gksudo <command>, but it never lets me enter my password.  Says "Starting admin app" then that's it.  How can I start the script a different way? (eg Not in sessions)22:25
Woodersonneed help setting up remote desktop22:25
mc44OpenSorce: so does ubuntu22:25
mgHow can I install multiple kernel images: 2.6.19, 2.6.20, 2.6.21, 2.6.22 ?22:25
EoghanI never bothered fixing the vmware/vmnet8 error that occurred when tried to install updates, would i be best just upgrading from a cd?22:26
martynhey guys22:26
OpenSorcemc44, not that I saw22:26
sainzeoafter installing the restricted drivers for my ati card, i'm noticing very low fps in glxgears and also, server glx vendor string: SGI after running glxinfo - any ideas?22:26
demonsporkhow much difference is there between upgrading to gutsy and doing a clean install?22:26
pike_mg:  its quite impossible22:26
murkyMurkthefaber: most LINUX apps can be installed straight from that GUI or from an similar one called synaptic. Windows apps won't install at all...what are you trying to get running?22:26
mgpike_,why?22:26
BlamaCan someone help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/newthread.php?do=postthread&f=7322:26
`m0Anyone upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 ?22:26
Woodersonwhen i type vncviewer ip:1 it comes up with a screen but its blank22:26
mc44OpenSorce: ndiswrapper-gtk, admittedly you have to install it first22:26
agresorheellooo, i have blocked 25 outgoing port, and i can not send mail with postfix and my connection????22:26
pike_mg: jking sorry.  look in synaptic for linux-image22:26
thefaberanything i dont know im just trying to learn how to use this thing22:26
martynjust installed 7.10 on my laptop it has a X1600 grx card is there any way to get the drivers installed the restricted 1s wont work22:26
OpenSorceok, enough of this.....I'll think about it when i try again in 2 weeks.....off to openSuse now22:26
TaurshazI've tryed both Gparter and Paragon Partition manager but none of them will let me modify my linux EXT3 partition over 2 GBs and I have atleast 20GBs free.22:26
agresorhow to findout MX smtp server of my provider22:26
thefaberfirst time on linuz22:26
thefaberlinux22:26
joff<`m0> I did last night22:26
agresorFuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk22:26
agresor :)S22:26
neverblue2[chr0n0s], ok, I think the output from (error) your boot, is not reading the correct xorg.conf (or you have changed values)22:26
agresor:D22:26
OpenSorcethanks for your time guys22:26
generalsnusHow do i install .DEB packages? only option i get is open with archive manager....22:26
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skyrocker67I thought that bmc43XX wifi was suppose to be a three click fix whats the deal I have gusty install and still cant get it running22:26
gordonjcpOpenSorce: stop wasting time with ndiswrapper22:27
`m0joff: Did you have any problems with exisiting software after upgraded?22:27
gordonjcpOpenSorce: put your hand in your pocket and buy a *real* wifi card22:27
pike_generalsnus: i forget the gui for it but you can sudo dpkg -i package.dub22:27
pike_generalsnus: er package.deb22:27
martynjust installed 7.10 on my laptop it has a ATI X1600 grx card is there any way to get the drivers installed the restricted 1s wont work22:27
[chr0n0s]neverblue2, how do i fix that, assuming my xorg is in the right place with the right values22:27
nickrudthefaber: the biggest thing to learn is you nearly never go to an apps site to download and install, ubuntu provides synaptic as a centralized installer22:27
bastid_raZorgeneralsnus: dpkg -i filename.deb22:27
TokkeuhHey guys can anyone help me with a question about a USB DSL modem22:27
TaurshazI've tryed both Gparter and Paragon Partition manager but none of them will let me modify my linux EXT3 partition over 2 GBs and I have atleast 20GBs free.22:27
jburdTokkeuh: It doesn't work.  Anything else?22:27
Wooderson!remote desktop22:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:27
frank_generalsnus: if you right click you don't get an option to install with gdebi?22:27
generalsnusthanks22:27
wbknoxhow do i edit the default image boot screen,is not loading just solid black image.22:27
Wooderson!RPD22:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:27
pike_Wooderson: rdesktop is what you want22:27
Woodersongrr22:27
joff<`m0> no time to try everythig.. what in particular?22:27
The_Machinei have a strange effect going on - the fonts on my desktops are leaving some strange blocky shadow on there - i'm using KDE22:28
Wooderson!rdesktop22:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:28
generalsnusok.. will try to find gdebi on add/remove22:28
martynjust installed 7.10 on my laptop it has a ATI X1600 grx card is there any way to get the drivers installed the restricted 1s wont work22:28
neverblue2[chr0n0s], well, first, I would change that reference to say PCI:10:10, or something unusual, and see if thats what shows in your error22:28
gordonjcpnickrud: *nearly* never ;-)22:28
pike_!info rdesktop22:28
uboturdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0-2 (gutsy), package size 118 kB, installed size 440 kB22:28
martynjust installed 7.10 on my laptop it has a ATI X1600 grx card is there any way to get the drivers installed the restricted 1s wont work22:28
TaurshazCan anyone helpe me please?22:28
Tokkeuhjburd , ive been reading about it but isnt there really a way of getting it to work?22:28
murkyMurkthefaber: okay, just pick some random games in the ad/remove, click apply and then they will be in your games menu22:28
nickrudgordonjcp: I never ever say never ;)22:28
Woodersonyes but i need help with Rdesktop !22:28
pike_Wooderson: what is the problem?22:28
d1n0Anyone know how I can get my TV to work? It's connected through S-Video! Worked out-of-the-box with Ati Radeon HD2400 as a Clone, but I changed my videocard to Ati Radeon X800GT, and then there is no picture...... works fine in Windows Xp though!22:28
kiruhow do i change compiz-fusion effects like the cube or flaming effects?22:28
joff<Taursha what for?22:28
Xore|workok. so... i've torrented the desktop cd, and i would like very much to update my 7.10: why does it need to download "1 or 2" files off ubuntu and subsequently fail because your servers are getting hammered? why isn't this stuff already on the cd?22:28
gordonjcpTaurshaz: is the "free" bit actually properly free?22:28
murkyMurkWooderson: rdesktop rocks22:28
frank_!ati22:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:28
thefaberdoes ubuntu support more than 1024 resolution?22:29
neverblue2[chr0n0s], if it is the same, then your xorg.conf is the correct one your using, then next thing I would attempt to understand is why yours is PCI:#:#:#, rather than the more common PCI:#:#22:29
Xore|works/my/to/;22:29
jrwrHrm22:29
sebastesthefaber: Yes22:29
jburdTokkeuh: I never got mine to work.22:29
Woodersonpike_:  i followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402 and when i type in vncviewer ipaddress:1 it shows blank screen22:29
gordonjcpTaurshaz: if you're resizing a Windows partition, it's often got a few little scattered bits at the end22:29
BlamaCan someone help me with this problem? New Link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=356258722:29
murkyMurkd1n0: use XP then? :-)22:29
generalsnusfrank_: gdebi is installed.. but i get no option for it22:29
d1n0murkyMurk, that's not even funny.22:29
VletWooderson: did you restart gdm?22:29
matteonow that gutsy is stable, what are the repository with backports and security update?22:29
LM22ugg!  why can't I install any software from synaptic22:29
pike_Wooderson: you want vnc or rdesktop?22:29
axjvDoes anyone know how I would go about updating from 7.10 Beta to 7.10 Final?22:29
nickrudrflol d1n0 you are so right22:29
murkyMurkthefaber: yes, using the right driver for your video card it'll go as high as the card/monitor will go22:29
FrankPadillaHelp! I'm having problems upgrading to Ubuntu 7.1022:29
LM22I wish ubuntu used the torrent based synaptic22:29
Woodersonpike_:  i want anything thats simple where i can remote log in to my server22:30
frank_generalsnus: not sure... i run kubuntu feisty right now22:30
tBIs there anyone here who knows a lot of about changing packages and compiling?22:30
joff<matteo> there is a guide to upgrade22:30
neverblue2[chr0n0s], does that help you any?22:30
jribtB: best to just ask the channel your next question and see if anyone knows the answer22:30
WoodersonVlet:  i dont know what gdm is22:30
LM22FrankPadilla, never upgrade do a fresh install22:30
neverblue2[chr0n0s], or am I just rambling :)22:30
demonsporkdoes the nvidia-glx module for gutsy now support the nvidia 8800 GPUs?22:30
joff<matteo> but actually is everything automatic22:30
pike_Wooderson: thats vnc at least that server is easiest. you need to run vncserver on the server first22:30
FrankPadillaLM22, is that your personal opinion or a fact?22:30
murkyMurkLM22: you runnign it as root? Maybe servers are slow due to massive demand?22:30
LM22every single time ive tried upgrading it breaks my system22:30
neverblue2tB, alien is possibly something you want to look at22:30
Blama!torrent22:30
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html22:30
pike_Wooderson: run it as your user22:30
Taurshazgordonjcp: I'll try to free some space from my NTFS partition and see if that works22:30
mc44demonspork: glx-new, yes22:30
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jamilihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3562072#post356207222:31
nickrudLM22: never reinstalled myself, always upgraded22:31
tBI'd like to log all webpages I visit on my website, and I was wondering what package I could modify to record the http data.22:31
gordonjcpTaurshaz: you need to defragment very carefully22:31
Woodersonpike_:  ok where do i start.. cuz ive typed in so many commands ive probably screwed up22:31
jamilishould i install LILO over to GRUB22:31
jamili`?22:31
sal_Hi every122:31
FrankPadillaSo, how can I install from scratch without losing my configuration?22:31
pike_Wooderson: also if router is between forward port 5900-590something22:31
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BlamaCan someone help me with this problem? New Link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=356258722:31
sebastesjamili: LILO is evil22:31
nickrudjamili: no, use grub. ubuntu has some good tools for grub22:31
Rommeis it possible to copy a downloaded distro image to a new hard drive partition, then boot from it and install linux to some other partition?22:31
demonsporkmc44, the feisty repository version of nvidia-glx-new didn't work with the 8800GTS I have22:31
jamiliwell22:31
Xore|workHello. I have downloaded the 7.10 cd (bittorrent) and would like to install. however, the upgrade manager seems to want to download stuff, why is this necessary -- it is failing because (i expect) the servers are getting hammered with requests right now22:31
jamiliif you read the post, as i say there i have jmicron controllers22:31
mc44demonspork: yes, thats an older version22:31
LM22I want it to boot directly into ubuntu instead of have a choice between xp and ubuntu how do I do that on gutsy?22:31
jamiliwhich grub doesn't support?22:31
tBSo, I'm not sure if I need to modify my network driver or what.22:32
pike_Wooderson: nah its all user config stuff easy to fix just rm -fr .vnc on your server if you mess it up. have you set a vncpasswd?22:32
murkyMurkjamili: no, use either LILO or GRUB..usualy GRUB for gnome and LILO for KDE22:32
rjonesxclearze1: is there a place where I can get a list of available country servers... so i can try a diff one?22:32
mrjrjonesx, i'd recommend torrenting it22:32
Woodersonwhats rm -fr?22:32
jamiliwhat can i do to fix the error that grub doesn't start then22:32
Woodersonyes i have a vnc password22:32
Unbutu[G33Z3Rlo22:32
angerHelp me with this:22:32
jburdmurkyMurk: What on earth are you on about?  LILO for KDE and Grub for Gnome?22:32
FrankPadillaXore|work, the same is happening to me22:32
Taurshazgordonjcp: I have 20GB of unused space on the NTFS drive , so I'll just take away 10 GBs to be sure22:32
frank_murkyMurk: lilo for kde????? what?22:32
nickrudjamili: in that case (no personal knowledge about those controllers) use what works22:32
demonsporkmc44, what version of the nvidia driver is included in the nvidia-glx module?22:32
LamegoWooderson, forced recursively delete, a dangerous command22:32
sebastesjamili: What error are you getting?22:32
LamegoWooderson, type man rm22:32
angerFor some reason I can't mount /dev/sda3 to /home22:32
demonsporkmc44 new I mean22:32
generalsnusIf i right click .DEB file and chose properties >> opens with >> i can choose between "archive manager" and "gdebi"  ..but no matter what i choose there it allways opens wit archive manager22:32
joff<rjones on ubuntu.com follow download link22:32
sisseckhi anyone have some advice for setting up dualscreens? using the nvidia-glx-new driver and in screen settings there simply isnt more than 1 screen22:32
LM22FrankPadilla, Yeah fresh install is always superior than an upgrade not so much an opinion as it is real world experience.22:32
murkyMurkjburd: LILO was the origianl boot manager for all teh KDE distros that I ran..maybe I'm old22:33
mc44demonspork:  100.14.1922:33
pike_Wooderson: have you run 'vncserver' ? once ran itll tell you it started at :1 which is port 5901  then you can vnc to it22:33
mrji only fresh install ubuntu, i never update it22:33
jamilisebastes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3562072#post356207222:33
Woodersonhmm 1 sec then22:33
Unbutu[G33Z3Rlo from London UK22:33
FrankPadillaLM22, how can I fresh install without losing my configuration?22:33
mrjymmv22:33
jburdmurkyMurk: LILO used to be popular back then.22:33
murkyMurkjburd: of course either can do either or both22:33
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jamiliyeah nickrud that's what i was thinking22:33
TabooTreezso can anyone give me the url to ubuntu mirrors?22:33
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jamilibut i have no idea how to install lilo instead of grub :o22:33
LM22FrankPadilla, I dunno, I always backup my files on a spare drive, then reformat and reinstall everything... takes a few hours22:33
jburdmurkyMurk: Both GRUB and LILO are bootloaders.  Grub is just a little more friendly and featureful.22:33
gordonjcpany clues on disabling the mail notification in the notification area?22:33
angerIn fact I can't mount /dev/sda3 to anywhere, it always says that it's mounted or directory busy22:33
jrwrSo? how are the mirrors doing? at one time the most of the mirrors where down22:33
TabooTreezFor some reason when I sudo aptget udate it doesnt go22:33
Unbutu[G33Z3RTabooTreez:  do you have torrent client?22:33
angerI tried to mount it to several directories22:34
WalkbossDoes anyone have any idea about my aformentioned Firefox issue?22:34
mrjhttp://torrents.ubuntu.com:6969/22:34
FrankPadillaIf this is too much hussle, then I'm staying with Fesity22:34
aroTabooTreez, a lot of people are doing that same thing, it's called lag22:34
FrankPadillafeisty22:34
PhysicXlt22:34
millerjdhaving a public 7.10 release party at our company in Tempe, AZ if anyone wants to join.22:34
Woodersonpike_:  this is what happens when i type vncviewer ipaddress:5901 a screen pops up and its got like a checkered background and i dont do anything with it22:34
jofflist of mirror http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download22:34
lavender_dreamIs it just me or is the "download package repositories" failing a lot? I'm wondering if it has to do with the release rush or not...22:34
Clearze1TabooTreez: well you may want to type it correctly sudo apt-get update22:34
carloshi22:34
TabooTreezjoff: thank you very much sir22:34
TabooTreezwait22:34
angerIs this some security matter?22:34
Pirate_HunterWalkboss: sorry didnt get that question22:34
TabooTreezI have ubuntu22:34
TabooTreezI need mirrors for apt22:34
mrjlavender_dream, it has to do with the release22:34
TabooTreez=)22:34
carlosthis is only a test, thank for all :)22:34
carlosbye22:34
Lamegolavender_dream, yes, servers are overloaded, again :P22:34
TabooTreezI used the torrent22:34
pike_Wooderson: that is good22:34
khemHello I installed 7.10 this morning and nautilius is running for the whole time eating all the memory (~90%). What is it doing ?22:34
WalkbossIt seems sites with javascript crash firefox everytime. I disable javascript and I can visit these sites just fine. As you can imagine, it is a majour annoyance.22:34
murkyMurkjburd: actuallly, i'd day lilo config was easier and certainly more readable..liloconf iirc was the only command needed22:34
Xore|workFrankPadilla: indeed. It shouldn't need to hit the server if you've downloaded the cd22:34
LM22wow this is so horrible...  I can't install any software via synaptic the servers are so damn clogged22:34
LM22lol22:34
lixwhere is the bittorrent file to download gutsy 7.10 ?22:34
aroTabooTreez, the repositories are hammered22:34
_JaLI can't install or liverun ubuntu. I've got a san diego amd64 3700+ cpu and XFX 8800gts. I'm trying with 7.10 for amd64. When i try to run it from the ubuntu boot menu, it loads the kernel and gives me a black screen. I've tried running vga=771 and pci=noapic, and gfx failsafe mode. Nothing helps it. Any tips?22:35
tBDoes anyone know how I could record all my http traffic?22:35
TabooTreezapt with a built in torrent client = the stuff22:35
demonspork!gutsy22:35
lavender_dreammrj, lamego: thank you22:35
pike_Wooderson: the only issue now is it isnt launching your favorite wm22:35
mrjlix, http://torrents.ubuntu.com:6969/22:35
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents22:35
LM22yeah thats what need22:35
lixmrj: tnx22:35
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jribtB: wireshark22:35
Clearze1TabooTreez: google source-o-matic and choose a different country for you sources list22:35
LM22snaptic+torrent22:35
ejertB tcpdump22:35
joff<TabooTree are the same try to open a mirror22:35
Woodersonpike_:  ya so how do i go about fixxing that =\22:35
BlamaCan someone help me with this problem? New Link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=356258722:35
_JaL(black screen as in no output to screen)22:35
FrankPadillaWhy don't you people download from BitTorrent. That way, the servers would be fine.22:35
Xore|workI hat to say it: there is no point in torrenting the cd if you can't bloody well install it anyway22:35
pike_Wooderson: what are you running? gnome? fluxbox?22:35
kiruhow do i change compiz-fusion effects like the cube or flaming effects?22:35
jburdWell, whatever floats your  boat as long as you ain't drowning.22:35
pike_Wooderson: on the server i mean22:35
jribLM22: use a local mirror22:35
Xore|work*hate22:35
lixmrj: Server not found. Firefox can't find the server at torrents.ubuntu.com.22:35
joff<TabooTree just different folder on mirror22:35
Clearze1kiru: ccsm22:35
TabooTreezClearze1: Do I have to install anything?22:35
tBjrib, ejer, I'd like to have it all the time, and sending it to my website22:35
lixmrj: too many users?22:35
Woodersonpike_:  um i have no idea what any of that is... the server has ubuntu linux 7.04 on it..22:35
LM22ive got gutsy installed22:36
kiruClearze1: ?22:36
speaker219_I have a question again guys. Is Ubuntu 7.10 out yet?22:36
frank_FrankPadilla: If you want to upgrade it's from the repositories22:36
LM22just can't install software22:36
tBPreferebly, I'd modify a network driver or something, so I can't disable it.22:36
ejertB ok....22:36
Xore|workspeaker219_: yes22:36
LM22:D22:36
peepsalotWalkboss, try disabling firefox extensions if you have any.  those sometimes cause instability22:36
speaker219_I heard it's technically done and out of beta, just not "released"22:36
LamegoXore|work, yes, there is a point, if all people used torrents, you would have no problems with the installation22:36
Lamegospeaker219_, it is released... www.ubuntu.com22:36
khemspeaker219_: its out22:36
ompaulspeaker219_, ehh that is what released means22:36
lixmrj: oh. now it works. was maybe a "hickup"22:36
chepra_anyone using aes-cbc-essiv:sha256?22:36
kiruClearze1: ?22:36
FrankPadillaI think BitTorrent files should be offered the first days of a release. That way, the servers wouldn't get overcharged22:36
kiruhow do i change compiz-fusion effects like the cube or flaming effects?22:36
sebastesjamili: Still looking....22:36
Clearze1TabooTreez: no just open the sources.list with gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then replace with the new sources.22:36
BobSappIs dma disabled in ubuntu by default?22:36
tBejer, Do you know how I could do it, or at least find the network driver that I'm using?22:36
speaker219_ok it's released thanks guys.22:36
Xore|workLamego: the point is, if i've torrented, the upgrader shouldn't require to connect to the server22:36
mrjlix, not working for me now, dunno22:36
jribLM22: yes, use a local mirror for the repositories22:37
haruanyone able to run xserver on ati x2300 on gutsy ???22:37
FrankPadillaI downloaded Gusty by BitTorrent so it was fast22:37
ejertB it is a bit involved22:37
BlamaI boot into the Ubuntu Install CD and choose the first install and the screen flashes and the monitor looses signal. It sits there forever, the computer doesn't turn off and the drive doesn't stop spinning. I tried it in safe graphics mode and it does the same thing. Version 7.04 normal does the same thing.22:37
London`UKutorrent wont work  do i have to run it through wine?22:37
Clearze1TabooTreez: backup your old list first with cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.bak22:37
LamegoXore|work, the point is, a secure system will check for updates after install, such upgrades are available on the same mirrors used for the downloads from other people (which does not use mirrors)22:37
pike_Wooderson: ok gnome then.  so on server just 'echo somewm > ~/.vnc/xstartup' that will put the work somewm in a file called xstartup22:37
Xore|worki torrented the server cd in about 10 minutes, and i've been trying for hours to get it to actually upgrade22:37
Walkbosspeepsalot: I deleted my entire .mozilla folder and started fresh with a purge and install of Firefox. I have no idea what the problem is. I try to figure it out the best I can via troubleshooting and Google before I come asking for help, but this one is just kicking my butt.22:37
jamilisebastes: what are you looking22:37
LM22jrib, sorry how do I do that?22:37
_JaLblama i have same problem. What gfx do you have?22:37
murkyMurkperhaps the forum topic should be changed to reflect the congestion problems people are having?22:37
pike_Wooderson: sorry i dont know command for gnome one sec22:37
BobSappLondon`UK: is you can install rtorrent22:37
ejerBlama: CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE doesn't work?22:37
chepra_anyone using aes-cbc-essiv:sha256?22:37
BobSapp*if22:37
gmaniachi folks, gdm is serving xdmcp only on ipv6, but i need ipv4 for my clients. how to do? latest gutsy.22:37
gonzo_Anyone having problems with Realtek audio cards and Gutsy?22:37
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harujrib, finally u are here.. i tried compiling the fglrx drivers for x2300 on gutsy, but it gives me a fatal error (no screens found) on running x22:37
Blama_JaL, ATI x800 GT22:37
harujrib, any ideas?22:37
LM22I downloaded gutsy off torrent at my max connection speed 600KB/s22:37
BobSappotherwise deluge is good22:37
Xore|workLamego: follow up question: why is the upgrade service being run on the same servers as the downloads?22:38
DerykHello, why cant i install any software using synaptic package manager? I can only remove them, it looks like everything is installed?22:38
mrjDeryk, because the servers are slow?22:38
Blamaejer, I thhink ubuntu stop sending signal to my monitor. I have a fuller version here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58010822:38
London`UKbobsapp cool ill check out rtorrent22:38
gnomefreakDeryk: what release are you using?22:38
Deryk7.1022:38
Derykgutsy gibbon22:38
mrjDeryk, because the servers are slow22:38
TabooTreezwhats the best program to put an avi to dvd?22:38
jribharu: I've never used ati drivers, were the wiki instructions not helpful?22:38
gnomefreakDeryk: do you see an update button?22:38
tBAnyone know if there are libraries I could use to look at the http traffic on my computer?22:38
lixmrj: none of the md5sums on the torrent server seem to be correct22:38
Derykno gnomefreak22:38
jamilisebastes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3562072#post3562072 is my problem if that's what you're looking for..22:38
Deryki do see "reload"22:39
Clearze1TabooTreez: Do you want the dvd to be readable by most dvd players?22:39
lavender_dreamWhen I go to System -->> Software Sources, under the 'Installable from CD-ROM/DVD I see *TWO* listings of "CD-ROM with Ubuntu 7.10" with the bottom one checked, is it normal to have two of these listing with 1 checked? I'm on a fresh installation of Gutsy.22:39
Derykbut that doesnt help22:39
gnomefreakDeryk: i cant open synaptic atm, click reload22:39
harujrib, i tried installing it from one of the how tos on forum , could u refer me the wiki link?22:39
ryan__hey does anyone know how to get .aac and .m4p support for banshee?22:39
mrjlix, i don't even look at md5s, my alternate-i386 cd installed fine22:39
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gonzo_I get an error when trying to start desktop effects. What's the composite extension?22:39
Derykreload doesnt work.22:39
jrib!ati > haru (read the private message from ubotu)22:39
peepsalotWalkboss, did you install firefox via repositories?  what version (Ubuntu & firefox)?22:39
gnomefreakDeryk: please post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please22:39
lixmrj: i care about md5sums because of security22:39
harujrib, thanks a lot22:39
London`UKwant to run berryl but my graphics card is shit22:39
ejerBlama: do the same thing again, change to vesa driver22:39
LamegoXore|work, because, there is only one network of mirrors, all of them used for all the repositories, they all serve the same purpose, expect for release days which some of them do get a major bottleneck22:39
`m0"Downloading the upgrade tool" still on Downlaoding file 1of 2, for liek 10 minutes now... is that normal?22:39
jribLM22: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors22:40
Dankchildhey does anyone know how to get .aac and .m4p support for banshee?22:40
gnomefreakLondon`UK: please watch your language and beryl is no longer supported at all22:40
mrjlix, md5s are a rather archaic way to "be secure"22:40
Blamaejer, I did and it did nothing22:40
gonzo_Composite extension? What is that? I'm trying to get desktop effects working.22:40
Derykeverything in my sources.list is commented (prefixed with #)22:40
loompekgood morning from ubuntu 7.10 :D22:40
LM22jrib, thanks man!22:40
gnomefreakLondon`UK: compiz-fusion is what the beryl plugins are22:40
murkyMurk`mo: only on upgrade days22:40
London`UKgnomefreak:  what you using istead?22:40
jburd`m0: Yeah, pretty much, except it won't work when it comes to "Fetching 1 of 2"22:40
gonzo_Anyone?22:40
London`UKk thxs22:40
mjkelly93anyone in here really familiar with alsa and usb sound cards? maybe anyone with experience rebuilding alsa?22:40
jburdI guess the servers are taking a bad beating.22:40
gnomefreakDeryk: add a # to the cdrom repo and take the # away from rest22:40
ejerBlama: you should look at xorg.log to see what is happening22:40
Derykeverytghing?!22:40
colby1how do I install nvidia-glx drivers for an nvidia 8300?22:40
Derykits like 2 pages long22:40
Lamegomrj, not when the md5 are GPG signed,22:40
gmaniacon the latest of gutsy gibbon, xdmcp is only served on ipv6 by gdm, but i need ipv4 for my clients. any ideas?22:41
gnomefreakDeryk: without seeing it i would say yes22:41
Derykhang on22:41
loompekas you might imagine.. i've got a little ol' question...22:41
jribLM22: actually you can just go to system -> admin -> software sources  and that should list the mirrors for you22:41
murkyMurkmjkelly93: instaructiosn to build alsa from source for all supported cards  are on the alsa website22:41
`m0jburd: But the progress bar for that "Downloading the upgrade tool" downloading file 222:41
`m0ahh22:41
r0b-UGH!22:41
_JaLBlama: tried an install that wasn't amd64?22:41
`m0now it went to 2 of 222:41
Walkbosspeeps: Yes, via the repos. I believe it's 2.0.0.7. I did a clean install of Gutsy yesterday morning and about half-way through the day it (FF) started crashing on startup. I figured out it was the javascript on my home page (iGoogle) after deleting .mozilla and starting over with javascript disabled.22:41
sebastesjamili: No, is saw that link, I'm trying to find a solution :)22:41
loompeki was kinda hoping for mdadm or something implemented in gg22:41
gnomefreakDeryk: everything == all lines that start with deb except for cdrom repo22:41
`m0wow it took too much time ....22:41
loompekbut as i can see there is no sw raid utility22:41
loompek:S22:41
ejergnomefreak: don't want backports prolly?22:41
`m0Nice :) chillen its Fetching file 1 of 222:42
pike_Wooderson: sorry got busy umm its either gnome-session or startgnome  so 'echo gnome-session > ~/.vnc/xstartup'  then kill vncserver and restart it22:42
mjkelly93murkymurk ok thanks22:42
Blamaejer, Ok, how do I go about doing that? And do you think using 7.10 Alternate CD would work?22:42
pike_Wooderson: or something.  good luck22:42
gnomefreakejer: thats up to him :)22:42
Blama_JaL, I refuse to22:42
jamilisebastes: thanks for bothering :)22:42
gnomefreakejer: not like it matters for a while anyway22:42
`m012.5kb/S wo00000t22:42
Woodersonpike_:  ok..22:42
martynI have an ATI x1600 i cant get compwiz to work any ideas its 7.1o22:42
ejerBlama: can you do CTRL-ALT-F122:42
jburdYeah, I should have upgraded when Gutsy had just been released.  Few people knew back then =(22:42
sebastesjamili: Hrm, have you tried booting with the live cd?22:42
daedraI HAVE AN ATI x1600!22:42
mjkelly93murkymurk do u know if there is somewhere i can check to see if rebuilding alsa from source will do the trick for me?22:42
daedraAND COMPIZ WORKS!22:42
nomikehi22:42
gnomefreak!caps | daedra22:43
ubotudaedra: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.22:43
martynhow do i enable it then22:43
daedrano beryl works22:43
riotkittiedaedra: you also have a caps lock key. please hit it.22:43
unfhello22:43
murkyMurkmjkelly93: what usb sound device is it?22:43
Blamaejer, In recovery mode or when it loses signal?22:43
jburddaedr What mobo?22:43
`m0I am upgrading and it is like using 1/100 my internet connection :)-22:43
Xore|workLamego: should seriously consider for subsequent update days, to set a few servers aside for purely the update handshake for those who torrented the cds... we try to keep the load off your servers, but we're getting equally shafted22:43
ejerBlama: normally when you boot normal bootup22:43
daedramartyn: sorry just beryl works22:43
`m06277b/s :p22:43
Walkbosspeepsalot: I'm using Kubuntu, I'm not sure if that matters. I tried to ask my question in #kubuntu but no one had any clue (i.e. didn't reply after asking a few times)22:43
LM22just imagine what ubuntu will be like in 10 years22:43
jamilisebastes: hmm? i booted to it and installed22:43
LM22:D22:43
mjkelly93murkymurk its http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682912610122:43
VeinorI can't get firefox to play any mp3s.22:43
daedra!info shell-fm22:43
ubotushell-fm: console based player for last.fm radio streams. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2+svn20070605.r215-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 112 kB22:43
unfcan someone tell me where to find a tutorial to run kde4 on gutsy? ive installed it via aptitude but i dont know how to launch it22:43
LjLVeinor: i can't get amarok to view any sites22:43
`m0unf: kbuntu?22:43
unfnope, ubuntu22:43
jburdunf: Log out and choose KDE from the sessions dialog.22:43
unfive installed kde4base22:44
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VeinorLjL: no, like if I open an mp3 link, I know plugins exist to play it in the browser without downloading it.22:44
`m0unf:  but kubuntu is kde with ubuntu22:44
nomikeI have a computer with an AMD 64Bit CPU and a ATI Radeon 7500  (no mobility crap) vga-card. I installed gutsy rc 7 days ago.22:44
unfjburd, it doesnt appear22:44
maedhros_About to install gutsy 64-bit version from the alternative disk. Anything I should know? Any issues?22:44
nomike(i installed gutsy 32Bit)22:44
jburdErr.  Well install KDE first in that case :)22:44
praecoxwhat command is executed while trying to enable visual effects? something goes wrong and it says:22:44
lavender_dreamWhen I go to System -->> Software Sources, Ubuntu Software tab, under the 'Installable from CD-ROM/DVD I see *TWO* identical listings of "CD-ROM with Ubuntu 7.10" with the bottom one checked, is it normal to have two of these listing with one bottom one checked? I'm on a fresh installation of Gutsy.22:44
martynhow do i enable beryl then22:44
Blamaejer, Ok, that will bring me to a command line and it will give me graphics?22:44
A[D]minS!download22:44
slimjimflimhi, when i update/upgrade, i get http://pastebin.ca/74165822:44
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!22:44
Clearze1maedhros_: I hope you don't want to use flash22:44
mjkelly93murkymurk it says GWC on the site but on lsusb it identifies itself as Microdia22:44
praecoxDesktop Effects could not be enabled22:44
slimjimflimcan anyone help?22:44
gnomefreakmartyn: beryl isnt supported22:44
juicccuggg...   I just downloaded the gusty livecd.   I already have feisty on my computer.   Can I upgrade from the livecd, or do I need to spend another 2+ hours getting the alternate cd?22:44
unf`m0, i use ubuntu (with gnome), but ive installed kde4 in order to try it... but it doesnt appear in gdm's menu22:44
ejerBlama: I just asked if it works or now22:44
praecoxI want to track the problem22:44
ejernot22:44
maedhros_Clearze1: No 64-bit support? :(22:44
murkyMurkmjkelly93: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main <<<looks like now unless it's a rebadged job22:44
Veinorso basically... I can't get the multimedia plugins to work with firefox22:44
LjLVeinor: perhaps try installing mozilla-plugin-vlc, or the mplayer equivalent22:44
`m0martyn: beryl is discontinued!, use compiz-fusion which is included in gutsy i think22:44
A[D]minSwhere i can find mirrors which support rsync ?22:44
jcoledoes totem-gstreamer now support dvd menus?22:44
ejerBlama: if you can get to command line at all22:45
speaker219_Wow the servers are really crippled22:45
bluefox83any problems reported from gutsy so far guys?22:45
nomikeMy card has three outputs (VGA, DVI, SVideo) and there are screens connected to VGA and DVI, but Ubuntu only shows up one screen in the screen config program...22:45
gnomefreakmartyn: beryl devs merged with compiz now compiz-fusion is the beryl plugins22:45
martyn<gnomefreak> what fancy stuff can i use lol i.e compiz22:45
nomikeany suggestions?22:45
Clearze1maedhros_:  Not officially you have to jump through hoops. But you can get a 32bit firefox plugin22:45
gnomefreakmartyn: compiz22:45
VeinorLjL: tried, didn't work.22:45
NeoGeo64mmm taco bell and linux22:45
dgaspeaker219_: try a torrent22:45
NeoGeo64tasty22:45
A[D]minSfound it22:45
jcoleor do i have to install totem-xine again22:45
gnomefreakmartyn: compiz with compiz-fusion add ons22:45
speaker219_I can't torrent22:45
speaker219_Comcast throttles it22:45
martyn<gnomefreak> how do i enable it i have a ati 160022:45
ejerbluefox83: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+bugs22:45
dgaah22:45
praecoxwhat command is executed while trying to enable visual effects? something goes wrong and it says: Desktop effects could not be enabled. I want to trace the problem down.22:45
bournemipos dipsaei kaneis?22:46
LjL!gr | bourne22:46
ubotubourne: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes22:46
gnomefreakmartyn: most likely you will need xserver-xgl if your card supports 3d22:46
maedhros_Okay, I can live with that. I know 64-bit version has less supported software, but hey...22:46
jcolepraecox: run it frm command prompt22:46
bluefox83ejer, i mean have people been coming in complaining of installation problems or upgrade problems?22:46
LM22use forced encryption and lazy bitfield on azureus over port 44322:46
Blamaejer, Ok, gimme a sec, I'm downloading the 7.10 Alt. If I do get to command line what should I type to get the log?22:46
slimjimflimneogeo64, i haven't seen a neogeo in a while22:46
bournefuck off22:46
Clearze1speaker219_: You can setup a iptables rule to drop the RST packets coming down the line from comcast. That should work for you.22:46
praecoxjcole, yea, but *what* command?22:46
phaedraspeaker219_  Use a non-standard port for comcast...22:46
jburdpraecox: compiz --replace I suppose22:46
martyn<gnomefreak> i have the restricted ati drivers ins talled22:46
mjkelly93murkymurk yeah its not listed there but i read on the newegg page about someone who go it working by recompiling alsa but im kind of hesitant22:46
ejerbluefox83: well, I would trust bug reports myself :)22:46
VeinorLjL: it just says "transferring data from blahblah.com" in the status bar on the bottom22:46
speaker219_It doesn't matter what port phaedra, and Clearze1, I'm using windows, no iptables ;)22:46
maedhros_Anyways, here goes nothing :)22:46
ejerbluefox83: we all have different hardware so there is always problems22:47
Light-I want to extend my primary monitor onto the secondary, but in "Screens and Graphics Preferences" everything is greyed out except for the default screen radio button. what gives?22:47
gnomefreakmartyn: if you have 3d than install xserver-xgl and you should beable to enable it22:47
Clearze1speaker219_: To bad. That's how I do it :)22:47
juicccanyone know if I can upgrade with the liveCD instead of the alternate cd?22:47
jcolepraecox: gnome-appearance-properties22:47
LjLVeinor: i dunno22:47
gnomefreakhmmmmmm i guess he left22:47
phaedraspeaker219_,  No...  Just set a different port in azureus or ktorrent.  I use 49152.22:47
Evanlecjuiccc, yes u can22:47
murkyMurkmjkelly93: recompiling alsa is not recommended in ubuntu ever or for the faint hearted...much easier to buy a compatible sound card22:47
speaker219_Phaedra, doesn't work for me. Comcast does not just block ports. more intelligent method of blocking BT traffic22:47
Clearze1phaedra: Doesn't work. They are now doing deep packet inspection. Which means they target the traffic not the port22:48
ejermjkelly93: or using alsaconf22:48
speaker219_yep22:48
phaedraspeaker219_,  Okay...  Didn't know that.22:48
Clearze1phaedra:  at least in some areas22:48
ejerspeaker219_: enable connection encryption22:48
martyn<gnomefreak> ok searched for xserver-xgl on synaptic its found it and installing it the now22:48
jburdAnd why are they blocking BT?22:48
Blamaejer, Ok, gimme a sec, I'm downloading the 7.10 Alt. If I do get to command line what should I type to get the log?22:48
gnomefreakone minute22:48
speaker219_I can't believe comcast would do that it pisses me off22:48
mjkelly93murkymurk yeah ive tried compiling stuff like that from source before and ran into all kinds of problems,     alsaconf: command not found22:48
speaker219_meh, i'm downloading via HTTP ...save me the pain22:48
praecoxjburd, jcole, http://pastebin.ca/74166722:48
mjkelly93murkymurk where can i get alsaconf?22:48
ompaulspeaker219_, please stay calm ;-)22:48
LamegoBlama, the alternate cd provides a text mode installer, is it not just a command line interface22:48
Clearze1jburd: They are corporate c*ck suckers22:48
_JaLspeaker219: see if you can use encrypted p2p then22:48
ompaul!language22:49
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.22:49
speaker219_it's really slow ... 100 KB/s but i can live with that22:49
LjL!language | Clearze1, asterisks don't hide anything22:49
ubotuClearze1, asterisks don't hide anything: please see above22:49
mjkelly93murkymurk synaptic?22:49
speaker219_i can wiat22:49
ejerBlama: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log22:49
Light-I want to extend my primary monitor onto the secondary, but in "Screens and Graphics Preferences" everything is greyed out except for the default screen radio button. can someone please help?22:49
martyn<gnomefreak> should it just work now22:49
praecoxjburd, jcole, that's what I got. it's Intel integrated graphic card. any chances on effects?22:49
speaker219_I'm plenty calm...22:49
juicccEvanlec: could you point me to a page that tells me how?   All I know is to use /cdrom/cdromupgrade on the alternate cd...   The liveCD doesn't have cdromupgrade on it.22:49
jcolepraecox: lspci | grep VGA22:49
_JaLspeaker219: go trough your p2p clients options, there's usually some sort of encryption22:49
speaker219_at 100 KB/s i will be done dling it ~2 hours22:49
rorenabling desktop effects I've lost multiple workspaces; I know a work around using gconf editor but I don't wanna do that every time I enable them!22:49
gnomefreakmartyn: you may have to fiddle with it and enable it but i cant say due to not knowing ati all that well22:49
* gnomefreak confused22:49
murkyMurkmjkelly93: alsaconf is in one of the alsa packages....alsa-utils or alsa-tools I think. But that is still manual compiling...shoudl work though22:49
Evanlecjuiccc, sudo apt-add cdrom , then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:50
praecoxjcole, it's Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller22:50
phaedra_JaL, Azureus has the encrytion option.22:50
mjkelly93murkymurk thanks alot, ill figure that out22:50
sebastesjamili: Yeah, I can't find a proper response. Jmicron support is now currently in the kernel, so it might have something weird to do with the way grub set itself up.22:50
juicccEvanlec: thanks!22:50
KI4IKL|SchoolMy ubuntu isn't showing it needs updating to gusty22:50
jamilisebastes: ok22:50
lavender_dreamWhen I go to System -->> Software Sources, Ubuntu Software tab, under the 'Installable from CD-ROM/DVD I see *TWO* identical listings of "CD-ROM with Ubuntu 7.10" with the bottom one checked, is it normal to have two of these listing with one bottom one checked? I'm on a fresh installation of Gutsy.22:50
dunnthetownHow can you see the cube on the desktop with compiz?22:50
_JaLWhat he said. Azereus is the way to go if you're not already using it22:50
Clearze1speaker219: if you want you could also build a ssh tunnel to a unrestricted network and forward you BT traffic through the tunnel. But I guess that doesn't help you now.22:50
speaker219_KI4IKL|School: ... nevermind already answerd :p22:50
murkyMurkmjkelly93: good luck...you could always try open source sound....could be a solution22:50
gnomefreakKI4IKL|School: run from terminal update-manager22:51
chxis there a way to find out how many packages are there which need to be unpacked configured, etc ? i am running aptitude dist-upgrade but getting sleepy and want to shut down :(22:51
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bluefox83KI4IKL|School, System->administration->update manager22:51
mjkelly93murkymurk ill try that next,   i didnt get alsaconf in either alsa-utils or alsa-tools    gona look into that closer22:51
ejerchx: apt-get install -s22:51
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KI4IKL|Schoolahh, I got it now.22:51
gnomefreakKI4IKL|School: make sure you have update-manager from feisty-update repos first that is most important part of it22:51
juicccEvanlec: oops?  apt-add ??22:51
chxejer: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?22:51
loompekthank god for slackware.. it comes with statically linked mdadm :p22:52
kidh0hi all22:52
jcolepraecox: glxinfo | grep direct22:52
ejerchx: guess something else is using it or else you forgot sudo22:52
Lamegoejer, he mentioned aptitude is running ;)22:52
pinionAbout the Network Upgrade.  I set it up to go this morning and when I got home it was almost done with the download.  It started to install and then I had several errors where it said things could not install.  So only about half the upgrade finished.  I'm completely new to this and my system seems to be working ok but I know it didn't finish with the upgrade from fiesty.  What should I do?22:52
mjkelly93murkymurk im reading something about alsaconf being removed or something22:52
kidh0somo one already have problems installing ubuntu under hp dv6253 notebook?22:52
murkyMurkmjkelly93: http://manuals.opensound.com/devlists/Linux.html << doesn't look good for OSS either22:52
ejerLamego: ah I thought he meant before running dist-upgrade22:53
praecoxjcole, direct rendering: Yes22:53
kidh0I'm trying to boot using the live cd22:53
kidh0but22:53
juicccEvanlec: I don't have apt-add  ?22:53
rorpinion, I had the same thing happen but mine still works alright bizarrely22:53
martynhEY IT WORKED22:53
KI4IKL|SchoolIs the 64 bit version of gusty worth the trouble?22:53
mjkelly93murkymurk hmm still lookin for alsaconf22:53
martynhEY IT WORKED22:53
marex_v2someone else here having problems with gusty + asus a6j (or similar)?22:53
kidh0freeze when is about to start gnome22:53
dunnthetownHow do you see the cube desktop environment using compiz?22:53
rormy network connection has a red dot now tho!22:53
emetHow do I upgrade an Ubuntu Server 7.04 to 7.1022:54
martynAny 1 know were i can get the keycomand for Compiz-fussion in 7.1022:54
chxejer: of course something is using it, there is an aptitude running since forever22:54
jribKI4IKL|School: only if you have more than 4gb of ram22:54
jcolepraecox: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist22:54
chxejer: and i just would liek to get a sneak peak how long before i can go to sleep with a gutsy laptop :)22:54
murkyMurkmjkelly93: yeah, still no findy22:54
ejerchx: personally I interrupt apt all the time, but no, you can't tell now that I know of22:54
Balu_hey all22:54
martynAny 1 know were i can get the key command for Compiz-fusion in 7.1022:54
jcolepraecox: SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz-manager22:55
jribmartyn: "keycommand"?22:55
kidh0anyone who have a hp notebook?22:55
chxejer: i do not dare to interrupt a dist-upgrade22:55
jribkidh0: best to just ask the channel your next question and see if anyone knows the answer22:55
jburdkidh0: I do.22:55
jcolepraecox: SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz22:55
kidh0which ubuntu is working?22:55
murkyMurkmjkelly93: alsa-lib looks promising22:55
marex_v2I mean the live cd works except fot the fglrx driver, but why the hell does the installation itself resuse to start or at least just shows me a black screen22:55
jcolekidh0: yep22:55
Blamaejer, I tried but Control-Alt-F1 didn't get me to the command line22:55
chxkidh0: there are about one bazillion hp laptops22:55
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martyn<jrib> what keys do different things like activate the cube ect  or sortcuts22:55
chxkidh0: each might or might not work22:55
mjkelly93murkymurk ok ill get that one,     im readong on ubuntuforums that alsaconf was removed because it was in conflict with some gnome audio selector package22:56
kidh0dv625322:56
bluefox83!torrents22:56
ubotuTorrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!22:56
Balu_anyone knows the beryl plugin for use the F8 - F12 window effects. and where i could find them? thx :)22:56
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juiccccould someone explain 'sudo apt-add cdrom' ??22:56
chxkidh0: have you asked google? dv6253 ubuntu22:56
jribmartyn: system -> preferences -> Compiz Config    do you have that?22:56
kidh0for sure22:56
Lamegojuiccc, it will add your cdrom media to the list of software sources22:56
chxkidh0: and22:56
jburdI've had Ubuntu working with the dv6000 series so far.22:56
Clearze1emet: Usually you can change all of the lines in the sources.list file that say feisty to gusty and run an update. Although I'm 99% sure that is not the recommend way to do it. Oh and then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade22:56
maccam94i've got some seroiusly weird issues with gutsy. i upgraded my ubuntu dell 1420n from feisty to gutsy. one really annoying issue right now is that every few minutes the screen will dim all the way down (it's on AC power, if that matters)22:57
kidh0I already tried many things that some websites suggested22:57
SkankinMonkeyHey guys, trying to  get Ubuntu AMD64 installed on my desktop but am running into some issues.  Whenever I try to go past the first menu on the cd, regardless of the settings it makes my monitor turn off like it's raising the refresh rate or something too high.  I've messed around with the video options and pretty much everything I know to do.  Any suggestions?22:57
murkyMurkmjkelly93: ahhh, makes sense. You'll be stuck compiling it from source then. Still not too bad22:57
Blamaejer, I tried but Control-Alt-F1 didn't get me to the command line22:57
chxdoes gutsy use the iwlwifi intel driver?22:57
martyn<jrib> dont have that option . i have installed xserver-xgl  and am running a x160022:57
jrib!update > emet, (read the private message from ubotu)22:57
maccam94Blama: did you try different control and alt keys?22:57
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jrib!update > emet (read the private message from ubotu)22:57
juicccwhen I run 'sudo apt-add cdrom' I get 'sudo: apt-add: command not found' am I missing something?22:57
kidh0but none of then worked22:57
Blamamaccam94, I hit every combination of control alt shift and F1 and F422:57
jribjuiccc: apt-cdrom add   instead22:58
dunnthetownHow do you make the cube environment have 4 screens instead of 2?22:58
freetoscan i install the desktop version of ubuntu and then go to http://howtoforge.com for the "perfect server setup"  and then install all the server packages, or do i want to install the server cd, then install all the desktop software, i'd like to use my box for both22:58
maccam94Blama: no shift22:58
mjkelly93murkymurk the one comment on newegg said the guy rolled it back to a previous alsa version of 1.0.4rc or something like that so im gonna give that a shot i think22:58
jribdunnthetown: in  system -> preferences -> Compiz Config22:58
Blamamaccam94, I know. but i tried it after ctrl and alt didnt work22:58
juicccthanks22:58
martyn<jrib> dont have that option . i have installed xserver-xgl  and am running a x160022:58
riotkittiedunnthetown:  have you installed CCSM? [compizconfig-settings-manager]22:58
Lamegofreetos, the order is not relevant, you can install any package, on any of the base installs22:58
maccam94freetos: it's probably easier to do desktop first22:58
murkyMurkmjkelly93: let the forum know how it goes - you may become a legend in the field of ubuntu usb sound22:59
jribmartyn: I installed compizconfig-settings-manager22:59
SkankinMonkeyHey guys, trying to  get Ubuntu AMD64 installed on my desktop but am running into some issues.  Whenever I try to go past the first menu on the cd, regardless of the settings it makes my monitor turn off like it's raising the refresh rate or something too high.  I've messed around with the video options and pretty much everything I know to do and can't get it past that first screen without going out of range.  Any suggestions?22:59
dunnthetownriotkittie: I have Gutsy, but I installed compiz config22:59
LamegoSkankinMonkey, I would get the alternate cd22:59
mdigiac1_anyone figure out the power management for the macbook? I only get 2 housr on 7.122:59
mjkelly93murkymurk someone has to be already theres 50 posts there with no answers for usb sound hehe22:59
martyn<jrib> cool ill get that in synaptic ??22:59
jribmartyn: of course :)23:00
buchiachhi, I just ionstalled ubuntu 7.10 for the first time, and i have aproblem...while working off the live cd everything looked fine, but onw that it is installed it gave me an error about my graphcs card and wont let me make the screen resolutionj any larger than 800x600, anyone know why that is?23:00
nikindoes anyone know if all hardware in ASUS eee is supported in Ubuntu?23:00
Rynooanyone else have problems with CUPS on 7.10?23:00
SkankinMonkeywhat does the alternate cd do that the vanilla one doesn't that would solve my problem?23:00
matthew_synaptic down?23:00
praecoxjcole, all right! it did a thing. I understand I can experience some problems though? where are effects configurable? things like cube and so on?23:00
Alexdoes do-release-upgrade respect the proxy settings from /etc/apt/apt.conf? 'cause I've just started running it and it's sticking at 0%23:00
jrib!ask > Rynoo (read the private message from ubotu)23:00
Walkbosspeepalot: No ideas?23:00
ost2lifecan anyone help. I've just upgraded, like everyone else, prior to the upgrade I had two HDD's auto mounted when I boot up, now neither are mounting automaticly, even though they're present in fstab and their old folders are present in media. Further, when I do mount them they're mountpoint is the same but with a trailing underscore.23:00
real_atehi everyone, i'm back... did anyone have a look at the update manager bug tat i submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/154010. i think it might be an issue that i'm having because of kubuntu as upposed to ubuntu, or that i'm doing a cd upgrade23:00
maccam94buchiach: do you have nvidia or ati graphics?23:00
murkyMurknikin: asus eeee? what's that?23:00
LamegoSkankinMonkey, the alternate cd does not required graphical mode to be installed, after installing the system you will have a greater control of the graphical configuration23:00
Walkbosspeepsalot*23:00
Rodyait seems like firefox on gutsy uses more of my processor than it did on feisty o_O23:00
buchiachnvidia23:00
mdigiac1_u need to config manually23:01
mdigiac1_using the xorg.conf23:01
LamegoSkankinMonkey, I am assuming you want to install, and not just run the live cd23:01
SkankinMonkeycorrect23:01
jcolepraecox: ccsm23:01
murkyMurkRynoo: nope, worked flawlessly for my usb laser23:01
nikinmurkyMurk: a new cheap subnotebook it is released last week as i know23:01
martyn<jrib> thx dude lol. god dammit i thought that version had this enabled and intsalled by default23:01
matthew_So, apt is down because of the gutsy release?23:01
juicccokay, now I'm pretty confused.   I ran 'sudo apt-cdrom add' which found my gusty livecd, then I ran 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'  which did nothing.23:01
Rynoojrib, well. i've installed cups, configured it properly, and it crashes anytime I attempt to do anything with it. I can't even enable debugging.23:01
real_atei'm willing for a bit of exploration if anyone can walk me through it ;) i'm a developer but not used to distro stuff23:01
LjLmatthew_: apt is a program, it cannot be down. perhaps some of the mirrors are down, you can try others.23:01
SkankinMonkeyi'll give the alt. cd a shot and bug you again if nothing changes, thanks :)23:01
praecoxjcole, it's not installed by default, right?23:01
matthew_LjL:  how?23:01
RynoomurkyMurk, worked flawlessly for me on 7.04, just upgraded to 7.10 with a clean install, now it wants to crash.23:02
jribRynoo: k, but ask the channel, I don't know much about that23:02
murkyMurknikin: ahhh, ok..some Asus SATA buses based on nvidia mcp55 have trouble but you should be okay with a lapp23:02
LamegoSkankinMonkey, you are welcome :)23:02
ganonHello23:02
jcolepraecox: should be23:02
maccam94buchiach: if so you may need to install the drivers from system -> administration -> restricted drivers manager23:02
axjvMy Gutsy Beta doesn't seem to detect any updates... What should I do?23:02
nikinmurkyMurk: asfar as i know it has an Intel chipset23:02
mjkelly93murkymurk im reading the comment the guy left on newegg and it says he recompiled from source to version 1.01.5rc3, and i was puzzled by this because that would be very old, but now im reading closer and i think its a typo and that it should read 1.0.15rc3 which is now trumped by 1.0.15, the newest version23:02
jribaxjv: are you sure there are updates?23:02
real_atejuiccc: are you doing a cd update? the docs say that you should do the sh script on the cd but it hasn't worked for me23:02
nickpierpointHi. Quick question. How well does the JPackage repository integrate with Ubuntu? I'm thinking of migrating from Fedora but I make heavy use of JPackage and not sure how well the RPM-specific JPackage will be handled by apt.23:02
ganonThis release no have DVD?23:02
axjvjrib: Gutsy Final was released today23:02
pipegeekHey, so23:02
Lamegoaxjv, probably you already got the latest packages23:03
jribaxjv: I know23:03
mjkelly93murkymurk so now im thinking that it is a brand new card and just recently included in 1.0.15, do u happen to know if this version is included in gutsy?23:03
praecoxjcole, The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing... so it looks like it isn't.23:03
ganonWith Desktop and alternate?23:03
juicccreal_ate: I'm trying to do a cd update, but I mistakenly downloaded the livecd instead of the alt cd.23:03
axjvjrib: So why wouldn't there be updates?23:03
buchiachi have tried to do that but when i try to enable the driver it just gives me an erro and says  "nvidia-glx is not enabled"23:03
LjLmatthew_: by using synaptic somehow, or (the only way i really know), by editing /etc/apt/sources.list and changing the URLs. mirrors are in the form two-letters-countrycode.archive.ubuntu.com23:03
ganonThis release no have DVD? With Desktop and alternate?23:03
praecoxjcole, anyway, thank you for your help.23:03
murkyMurkmjkelly93: doubt it, ubuntu is usually a few revisons back23:03
ganonAny know?23:03
loompekhttp://rula.net/14323:03
pipegeekAm running gutsy.  reiser4progs is in the repository, but there doesn't seem to be a reiser4 module (or source for one) available.  What's the recommended means of getting reiser4 support working?23:03
loompekyou just have to LOVE slackware...23:03
real_atejuiccc: well if you get the alt down and update can you come and let me know how you got on? i'm lookin into a problem ;)23:04
mjkelly93murkymurk ok ill compile from source then and let u know how it goes23:04
jcolepraecox: ah ok, apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager23:04
loompekif i didn't have a slack box.. i'd have to reboot ubuntu :D23:04
juicccreal_ate: k23:04
dgrhi, im new to ubuntu... ive had it in about 6 hours now and ive got everything done that i wanted to do except 1, ive got 2 monitors, in windows i used to use the 'extend desckop' option, so i can use both monitors or separate things, i was wondering how i can do this or simmilar on ubuntu, at the moment i only have one displaying anything, the other one is black, unless i shutdown, then i get both again,, any help much apreciated thx23:04
Lamegoaxjv, I don't believe they have release updates on the last release day23:05
murkyMurkloompek: slackers are real men23:05
BlamaHi all, when I boot into the Ubuntu Install CD and choose the first install and the screen flashes and the monitor looses signal. It sits there forever, the computer doesn't turn off and the drive doesn't stop spinning. I tried it in safe graphics mode and it does the same thing. Version 7.04 normal does the same thing.23:05
juicccI'm still not sure that I should spend 2+ hours getting the alt. cd...   could someone point me to a page where fiesty is upgraded to gusty using the gusty livecd?23:05
OVMhola?23:05
Lamego!es > OVM23:05
loompekis it possible to enable my second monitor in ubuntu live? before installing it? and what about the cube effect? it seems that compiz is running...23:05
Eastin24Help! I cant install ubuntu23:05
jribaxjv: there may not be... think about it... they release an RC and if nothing is wrong they make a final release.  If you have a sane /etc/apt/sources.list, your mirror is up, and you run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade'  and nothing happens, you are up to date.  Go enjoy your pc23:05
neverblue2dgr, what type of video card ?23:05
axjvLamego: Erm, what do you mean by that? They don't have the dist-upgrade uploaded yet or something?23:05
lymecaI want to create a custom DVD that is still vanilla Ubuntu but installs prechosen packages I select when I burn the DVD23:05
real_atejuiccc: is the sh script on the live cd?23:06
hjmillsloompek, look at appearance in prefs and turn on full effects i think23:06
homanjhow would i check the md5sum of the iso i downloaded?23:06
dgri got a nvidia card23:06
LjL!helpme | Eastin2423:06
ubotuEastin24: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)23:06
LjL!verify > homanj    (homanj, see the private message from Ubotu)23:06
juicccreal_ate: sh script?23:06
loompekhjmills: i already did that23:06
OVManybody spanish?23:06
lymecaI want a Gutsy Live installation DVD where I choose the exact packages that are installed23:06
lymecaHow can I do this?23:06
LjL!es > OVM    (OVM, see the private message from Ubotu)23:06
Lamegoaxjv, there is no dist-upgrade between, beta, and final, that is part of the regular updates process23:06
murkyMurkdgr: system->administration->screens&graphics23:06
dgromv ves al canal de ubunto para espanyoles !es23:06
hjmillsloompek, then install compizconfig settings manager and use that (ccsm command)23:06
juicccreal_ate: you mean cdromupgrade?23:06
real_atejuiccc: is there a file called cdromupgrade on the root of the cd?23:06
homanjLjL: thanks man.23:06
dinianHow can I get the 3D windows plugin for compiz?23:06
murkyMurkdgr: but please use the nvidia restricted driver23:06
real_atejuiccc: yea thats the one23:06
juicccreal_ate: no, it's not on the livecd23:06
BlamaHi all, when I boot into the Ubuntu Install CD and choose the first install and the screen flashes and the monitor looses signal. It sits there forever, the computer doesn't turn off and the drive doesn't stop spinning. I tried it in safe graphics mode and it does the same thing. Version 7.04 normal does the same thing.23:07
axjvLamego: I mean, they have an upgrade from beta > final, right?23:07
skyceris there a wime version for amd64?23:07
cjaedos anyone here get full dvd burning speeds?23:07
riotkittiedinian: thats not included in the version in the repos, AFAIK. you'd need to compile it.23:07
loompekcrap.. 'secondary screen' is somehow disabled :S23:07
dgroh ok, im usin that i think, ill go chek those settings, thx all thx murkymurk23:07
Lamegoaxjv, no, they had several updates that were distributed during the beta and release candidate phase, if you were using beta, you got all the updates until the final release23:07
ipxhttp://pastebin.com/m6fe75d7023:07
jribskycer: what ubuntu version?23:07
riotkittieBlama: try the alternate install23:07
dinianriotkittie: thanks. Do I need to get git or will tarballs have it?23:07
real_atejuiccc: then i would suggest getting the alt, cos i was thinking of going another route for my problem but things would just get really really messy down the line... or you could think of doing a clean install23:07
Eastin24When I select the top option to run or install ubuntu during the boot screen, after a couple of this & that [ok]s, the screem goes blank :(23:07
axjvLamego: So technically, I now have the final release?23:07
riotkittiedinian: git, AFAIK23:08
Lamegoaxjv, exactly :)23:08
buchiachmaccam94 also the update manger freezes on "downloading file 7 of 7" if that helps any23:08
dinianriotkittie: thanks!23:08
riotkittie:)23:08
EstethI'm upgrading to gutsy, but "preparing the upgrade" seems to be stuck at "Fetching file 45 of 55". What should i do?23:08
atlfalcons866does ubuntu support dual processors?23:08
axjvLamego: Wow, I waited all last night. Now I feel stupid.23:08
real_atejuiccc: i always have a seperate data partition from the opperating system for just such an occaision ;)23:08
Lamegoaxjv, hehe, you will no do the same on the next release ;)23:08
siriushowdy23:08
jimcooncatatlfalcons866: yes, out of the box23:08
maddumlalala23:08
Eastin24When I select the top option to run or install ubuntu during the boot screen, after a couple of this & that [ok]s, the screem goes blank .......:(23:08
juicccreal_ate: d'oh... grrr... 2+ hours more...23:09
siriusanyone ever set up shares between an ubuntu machine and a mac os x machine?23:09
backblueback again, anyone knows, why when i load Normal desktop effects on 7.10, i get no windows manager? (like metacity but from compiz)23:09
atlfalcons866even if it is dual pentium 3s at 733Mhz23:09
murkyMurkBlama: that can be a real pain...there are many causes and many 'solutions'...Ubutu is carrying on as normal  underneath but X has failed....goolge ubuntu black screen for loads of possible scenarios23:09
axjvLamego: Next time, I'll download the RC because on release day it's always so laggy.23:09
riotkittieEsteth: how long have you been waiting? the repos are being slammed with everyone trying to upgrade, so i'd wait. and wait. and wait.23:09
siriusi can browse shares just fine from my linux box and connect to the mac machine23:09
siriusbut i cant connect from the mac box to the linux samba shares23:09
Lamegoaxjv, on a perfect world, there would be no upgrades after RC, there would be no bugs reported ;)23:09
siriusany ideas as to why?23:09
real_atejuiccc: :P23:09
wolflordHowdy all23:09
jrib!wine > skycer (read the private message from ubotu)23:09
wolflordI need to check the how much room is left on my hard drive ... is there a easy way of doint this23:10
Hazi've editied a bit of xorg.conf, is there anything i would have to do for the changes to take effect? (other than restart X i think)23:10
NemesisDhi, i want to make a backup file containing my /home directory to store on another computer in case something goes wrong with my upgrade, whats the best way to do that? k3b already failed hard at making an ISO23:10
Veinorwolflord: run df -h23:10
juiccconce I've run 'sudo apt-cdrom add', what's the next command to update feisty to gusty using the gusty liveCD?23:10
ubuntuciao23:10
Lamegowolferine, Applications -> Accessries -> Disk Use....23:10
real_atewolflord: df23:10
ANTDx1us.archive.ubuntu.com is a horrible server, apparently23:10
jrib!backup > NemesisD (read the private message from ubotu)23:10
wolflordthank You Veinor23:10
Veinoryeah, us.archive.ubuntu.com is dead.23:10
jrib!mirror > ANTDx1 (read the private message from ubotu)23:10
aroANTDx1, no it's just laggy from everyone using it23:10
loompekthat's odd23:10
AnRkeyCongrats everyone!23:10
murkyMurkwolflord: system->admin->system_monitor23:10
lotiaanyone installed gutsy amd64 on a c2d xeon dell precision 490?23:10
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ANTDx1I know it's just laggy, i was commenting..however, other servers are doing better23:10
atlfalcons866what program can edit audio23:11
juicccinstead of us.archive.ubuntu.com I switched to nl.archive.ubuntu.com23:11
rorhttp://www.maximumpc.com/article/customize_compiz_in_ubuntu_gutsy < mine has no custom!?23:11
lotiai tried the standard and the alternate install and it seems like the boot manager gets messedup23:11
Veinoratlfalcons866: audacity23:11
aroANTDx1, other server performance does not reflect the "goodness" or "badness" of the us.archive.ubuntu.com server23:11
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Estethwill the laggyness of the mirrors have calmed down by next sunday?23:11
* juiccc confused23:11
eriksror: install ccsm23:11
aroEsteth, probably23:11
Veinoraro: he's saying the connection is bad, not the server itself23:11
ANTDx1forgive me for my complaint then.23:11
rorok thals23:11
lotiamachine simply won't boot after the install id completed (supposedly)23:12
aroEsteth, usually takes 1 week to get it all settled23:12
Estetharo: yay :) Going on holiday, so i can look forward to coming home to update23:12
eevar7.10 installer support sw-raid1 + lvm + encryption?23:12
wolflordthanks guys23:12
murkyMurklotia: a corrupted MBR or even apartition wrong set to inaxctive is the usual cause of that23:12
drew_any ideas on why the multimedia keys have stopped working on my old thinkpad upon upgrade to gutsy?23:12
gilsteri am having an issue with Open office and spell autospell check. It works on some paragraphs and on some noe23:13
loompekeevar: where do you have that support?23:13
real_atei need help, and i can't get out of the situation... my update manager crashed and has left me in a gutsy environment now instead of fiesty without any of the packages installed. bug started with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/15401023:13
loompekeevar:  i had to manually make a raid... with slackware's finest mdadm tool :D23:13
lotiamurkyMurk: inactive?23:13
lotiado you man not flagged bootable?23:13
eevarloompek: notice the question mark in my statement there ;)23:14
loompekeevar: oh.. i'm not used to pidgin :D23:14
Mark76Testing23:14
murkyMurklotia: it's a basic BIOS level partition flag enabling/disabling boot...it's set using fdisk but it is usually fool proof23:14
Mark76Yep, it's working23:14
Mark76Pidgin's improved then23:15
pooliegood morning23:15
Mark76Hello23:15
lotiamurkyMurk: i was under the impression that was simply for dos and win?23:15
avarnerpidgin makes my pants feel funny23:15
buntunubhey peoples hows Gutsy runnin for ya23:15
Mark76Pretty smooth so far23:15
KeithWeisshari'm having trouble finding the fastest mirror in the usa23:15
Nukedare the repos working?23:15
avarnergutsy was working pretty well last week :D23:15
loompekeevar:  in that case.. i can only help you with sw raid... first you need mdadm tool.. you can get it from http://www.rula.net/mdadm.. it's slackware's statically compiled version... then you need to create the mdX devices... mknod /dev/md0 b 9 0... then you need to modprobe raid123:15
KeithWeisshari need a mirror to download the 700mb cd23:15
Nukedavarner: very true23:15
murkyMurklotia: nope, BIOS needs to hand off to an active partition to boot23:15
PovAddictwhere can I get a list of all mirrors with the .debs? preferably plaintext23:15
ciaronhmm update-manager isn't working for me, will a apt-get dist-upgrade do the same thing?23:15
buntunubdual monitors with different reso's workin?23:15
real_atebuntunub: not so good for me :( need help with my bug23:15
Mark76Gutsy was working pretty well a month ago23:16
JohnRobertso I've installed gutsy...the trackerd process seems to be eating my system a bit...any idea what it is?23:16
KeithWeisshari tried using the download wizard but still get slow mirrors23:16
avarnerNuked: i like how they made this whole thing work out23:16
NukedKeithWeisshar:  bittorrent it!23:16
KeithWeisshari used the download wizard on the ubuntu website23:16
buntunuboh? so your dual monitors are workin?23:16
Mark76I can probably remove X Chat now23:16
drakodemaddum, aweonao!!! anda a Servidore> Entrar al canal y pone... ubuntu-es23:16
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LamegoJohnRobert, it is the desktop search tool indexer23:16
NukedI cant seem to access the repos23:16
KeithWeissharwhy are the mirrors slow23:16
maddumaaa23:16
loompekeevar: and... if everything went well... create partitions on all the disks... with fdisk... fs type fd (linux raid autodetect) and then use mdadm... mdadm --create /dev/md0 -n1 -l1 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 ...23:16
Mark76I don't have dual monitors, I have duel monitors23:16
loompekerr23:16
Nukmhey guys, i have got a problem with my new gutsy install. the correct keyboard and mouse settings are stored in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it gets ignored, i have the english kezboard lazout and so on instead of the german, like it stands in my xorg.conf23:17
PovAddictKeithWeisshar: because everybody is using them, duh23:17
aroKeithWeisshar, everyone is trying to use them at the same time, that's why23:17
loompeks/-n1/-n2/23:17
murkyMurkKeithWeisshar: it seems the entire continental USA is trying to dl Ubuntu as we speak..maybe try a non US server?23:17
eevarloompek: wouldn't consider creating that setup by hand. the debian4 installer let me do it, though23:17
NukedKeithWeisshar:  do you have any idea how many people use ubuntu?23:17
buntunubhow come xubuntu hasnt released yet23:17
LamegoJohnRobert, it is searching your files for metadata, it should only take more cpu usage on the first run (I believe)23:17
JohnRobertLamego: any idea how I turn it off?23:17
Vletbuntunub: it has23:17
PovAddictbuntunub: it has! I have been seeding it for some hours23:17
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JohnRobertah right23:17
JohnRobertta23:17
Mark76I'd like to know that too, buntunub23:17
Vletbuntunub: it doesn't auto-update distros's.23:17
buntunubi dont see the announcement on DW yet23:17
Mark76Though I already have Xubuntu Gutsy23:18
Vletbuntunub: you need to run: sudo update-manager -d23:18
Mark76So I guess I don't really care :D23:18
LamegoJohnRobert, unninstalling tracker could be a option, but I would wait, also I am not sure if there are other packages dependent on tracker23:18
eevarloompek: tried to set up raid+lvm+crypto on a running ubuntu system a few times, never got it to boot :/23:18
elementhey huys23:18
murkyMurkbuntunub: they wait until it's really stable  ;-)23:18
elementguys*23:18
JohnRobertk Lamego, thanks23:18
Nukmey guys, i have got a problem with my new gutsy install. the correct keyboard and mouse settings are stored in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it gets ignored, i have the english kezboard lazout and so on instead of the german, like it stands in my xorg.conf - dont even know what to google23:18
PovAddictwhere can I get a list of all mirrors with the .debs? preferably in plaintext, so I can stick pool/main/whatever at the end of any line and have it work23:18
elementI have  a logitech usb headset23:18
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elementhow would i get it defualt with apps in linux23:19
NukedWHAT is the status of the ubuntu repos?23:19
Nuked!repos23:19
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource23:19
Blama[STOLZEN]Does anyone know how to fix this? My keyboard doesn't work in terminal or in the Install Menus. It gives this error, "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/all, error -62"23:19
eevaroh well, guess i'll have to check out the alternate and/or server installers23:19
elementit works with everything but firefox23:19
chxI figured out, the sneak peak is  dpkg -l |grep -v ^ii|grep -v ^rc|wc -l23:19
LjLNuked: type /topic23:19
Psi-JackI have a USB Headset, and I'm trying to get the volume controls on it, specifically to control the volume of the headset itself, not the system sound. When I use the volume controls now, it adjusts the default sound volume, and not the headset's. This is under Gnome 2.20 in Ubuntu 7.1023:19
VletNuked: they're gettin Nuked23:19
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NukedVlet:  hahah23:19
elementi have the same problem psi23:19
Mark76Settings> Keyboard settings, Nukm?23:19
Owner_wow i upgraded to gibbon and my keyboard didnt work23:19
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LjLPovAddict: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has a list (just select any package), but those are not necessarily the official country mirrors. those are in the format two-letters-country-code.archive.ubuntu.com23:19
murkyMurkNukm: system->preference->keyboard has a layout GUI..maybe Gnome is overriding xorg?23:19
elementand it doesnt work with flash player in firefox either23:19
elementi got all my games working though23:20
elementlol23:20
PovAddictLjL: I need to do this in a more automated way23:20
Owner_anyone else experience this?23:20
joshe_yfg23:20
PovAddictfrom a list of 126 packages, download each from a random mirror23:20
cjaeanyone know about qpxtool?23:20
elementhow do I update to gibbon?23:20
NukmMark76 i know, but i wanna use my xorg.conf made a lot of changes... the problem is it gets ignored, the keyboard thing was just an example...23:20
cjaeanyone here23:20
LjLPovAddict: then you're asking how to *write a script*, not how to get the list23:20
PovAddictLjL: I know how to write the script23:20
PovAddictLjL: I don't have the list of mirrors to feed into it23:21
notvhas anyone installed gutsy on a Toshiba A205-S4607 laptop?23:21
anutelement, go to System / Administration / Update Manager, it should tell you there's a new distribution available.23:21
LjLPovAddict: i just pointed you to one, didn't i?23:21
backblueanyone have compiz working?23:21
Blama[STOLZEN]Does anyone know how to fix this? My keyboard doesn't work in terminal or in the Install Menus. It gives this error, "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/all, error -62"23:21
Mark76I lent someone my Ubuntu install disc today23:21
Nukedelement:  click your heels while rubbing your stomach and patting your head23:21
elementlol nice one nuked23:21
xloadhello i have problem installing winxp on virtualbox23:21
arofresh install is always better than update23:21
elementill try that23:21
elementha23:21
Vletxload: I just had vbox open.. what's the problem?23:21
Nukedelement it seems the repos are pretty overloaded, as well as the download servers23:21
LjLPovAddict: i mean, say, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fc%2Fcowsay%2Fcowsay_3.03-8_all.deb&md5sum=31a74d61490f70a864f919f4e5b2ded9&arch=all&type=main is not *precisely* plain text, but i'm sure you can copy and paste23:22
NemesisDoh crap, quick, does tar follow symlinks by default when creating archives or no?23:22
moragosCan anybody help me? I have 7.04 and when ever I try to update using the update manager it gets stuck and I have to manually kill it23:22
murkyMurkbackblue: yes, just use nvidia23:22
xloadit stucked at starting virtual machine .. 0%23:22
Vletuse the torrent to download the distro.. http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent23:22
Blama[STOLZEN]Does anyone know how to fix this? My keyboard doesn't work in terminal or in the Install Menus. It gives this error, "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/all, error -62"23:22
Owner_the servers are really busy try using torrent and reinstall23:22
moragoshammm, htanks23:22
NukedVlet: people seem to forget that the whole point of bittorrent is to lighten loads on the servers23:22
moragosthanks, maybe i'll wait a couple of days23:22
murkyMurkNemesisD: i think no23:22
SlartI've got some problems getting compiz to run on gutsy 64bit, nvidia 880023:22
Mark76That is weird23:23
SlartI get white menus, white windows and white panels in gnome23:23
NemesisDmurkyMurk, ok good23:23
AciD``Owner_ > can you update an existing system with the .iso ? I don't really want to reinstall all my system, just upgrade it..23:23
notvcan you use the 64 bit install with ati cards?23:23
Nukednotv: I am23:23
backbluemurkyMurk: i'm with nvidia...23:23
Owner_but torrent works so much faster ...23:23
PovAddictLjL: got it, thanks23:23
notvwhat card do you have nuked?23:23
NukedAciD you can actually do that23:23
AciD``with a mount -o loop ?23:24
Owner_linux could benefit from a torrent package management system23:24
Nukednotv: radeon xpress 200 series23:24
AciD``indeed23:24
Vletxload: AciD`` Just find a mirror that's fast for you. In the Software Sources control panel, if you pick 'other', there is a button to auto-pick the fastest for you23:24
murkyMurkNemesisD: yeah, just double checked it.tar won't follow unless you swich it to23:24
NukedAciD using synaptic23:24
NemesisDmurkyMurk, oh crap, ok so i'm creating a tgz with tar of /home, and i'm saving it to a directory in /home, is tar smart enough to not then try to include that tgz file?23:24
bulmerNemesisD: if you use the -h option it will23:24
Blama[STOLZEN]Does anyone know how to fix this? My keyboard doesn't work in terminal or in the Install Menus. It gives this error, "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/all, error -62"23:24
notvi have an x120023:24
elvirolohi everyone23:24
osmosisI have a  nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GT]  but compiz isnt working23:24
AciD``ah, I always use the terminal... :) I'll try23:24
elvirolodoes anyone know which servers are up-to-date (in order for me to upgrade to gutsy) ?23:24
gi000anyone uses amarok?23:24
Veinorgi000: me.23:24
murkyMurkNemesisD: lol...i hope so23:24
osmosiswas working earlier untill i used Screens and Graphics to switch to dual screen mode.23:24
NemesisDi think the archive is trying to devour itself23:24
gi000do you have a picture for all the buttons?23:25
Mark76Which is the best Voip for Ubuntu?23:25
Nukednotv:  I was thinking of upgrading my card, but ati drivers suck23:25
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Owner_so how do i get the keyboard to respond to me23:25
Nukedand I finally got my card to work here23:25
murkyMurkbackblue: you using the restricted nvidia driver and latest gutsy yep?23:25
gi000for me it's the standard icon of a text document for everything23:25
Veinorok, why is x.org consistently using 20% of one cpu?23:25
Veinorgi000: what do you mean?23:25
lymecaHow can I create a custom Ubuntu installation DVD with the packages I choose to be installed?23:25
notvnuked i wish i knew before i bought this laptop23:25
NukedI HATE trackerd23:25
buchiachis anyone else having trouble using system update?23:25
Owner_remasterme23:25
Blama[STOLZEN]Does anyone know how to fix this? My keyboard doesn't work in terminal or in the Install Menus. It gives this error, "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/all, error -62"23:25
Puppy_while upgrading can i use the computer?23:25
elvirolobuchiach: yes23:26
murkyMurkbuchiach: only people in US on account of server load on accoun tof massive update23:26
Oli``osmosis: you have the restricted driver installed?23:26
Owner_wow ud think a keayboard with linux in this day and age shouldnt be a problem the most common of hardware23:26
backbluemurkyMurk: i'm with last ubuntu yes, and i dont know what you mean by restricted nvidia driver, i'm using the drivers from nvidia.23:26
Nukednotv: you will probably need xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd23:26
elvirolobut are the other servers up to date?23:26
buchiachoh ok, so it's nothing on my end23:26
buchiachthanks23:26
gi000Mark76: i use gizmo for pc-sipphone calls23:26
NemesisDmurkyMurk, is it possible to remove a single file from an archive just in case it did?23:26
gi000Veinor: there are no symbols at all23:26
murkyMurkBlama[STOLZEN]: plug it into a different USb port? enable USB keyboard in BIOS?23:26
backblueserver glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation23:26
backblueserver glx version string: 1.423:26
Owner_simple ps2 kb23:26
Veinorgi000: that's weird... how'd you install it?23:27
Owner_a 101 key23:27
murkyMurkNemesisD: not that I know of...I've always untarred & retarred23:27
gi000Veinor: except in the help section23:27
osmosisOli``: yes, restricted driver installed23:27
NemesisDugh23:27
bulmerNemesisD: if you use the -x option it will23:27
whileimhereHey is there an issue with synaptics repos???23:27
Veinorgi000: did you install it via source, or synaptic, or what?23:27
Puppy_can someone tell me if i use my computer while it is upgrading?23:27
Veinorwhileimhere: the servers are being hammered by people upgrading, so they'll just take a while longer.23:27
gi000Veinor: i installed it a long time ago and the close the release of gutsy came the less icons i had :)23:27
nikinhow can i add a new mode to xrandr when using it in nested gdmflexiserver23:27
Blama[STOLZEN]murkyMurk, It works in Windows and it works in the boot menus in Grub and it works in version 5.123:27
NemesisDbulmer, thats just extract though...23:28
Mark76Gizmo, eh> gi000? I'll have a look at it23:28
Beta-guywhere can I download Ubuntu for the PS3?23:28
Veinorgi000: again, did you download the source? or did you install it via synaptic?23:28
bulmerNemesisD: isnt that what you wanted? to extract only specific file?23:28
Beta-guyI have 7.04 but I was 7.1023:28
gi000Veinor: via aptitude (so the binaries)23:28
sivikis there something going on with the archive.ubuntu.com repository right now?23:28
murkyMurkbackblue: system->administartion->restricted drivers manager installs ubuntu version of nvidia driver for you. then just grab compiz control centre via add/remove and it shoudl work fine23:28
NemesisDbulmer, no i want to remove that file from the archive but keep the archive23:28
nickrudPuppy_: yes, you can use it. You'll have to wait for the upgrade to finish to install anything, that's all23:28
gi000Mark76: it's in the repos23:28
notvnuked do you know if they fixed this feisty bug on gutsy? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/8985323:28
axjvDoes anyone know of any programs to make professional-looking charts (besides calc)?23:28
Veinorgi000: that's weird; try uninstalling and reinstalling it?23:28
Mark76Shame you need Skype to talk to people with Skype23:29
whileimhereic23:29
NemesisDremove and as in eliminate*23:29
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BlamamurkyMurk, It works in Windows and it works in the boot menus in Grub and it works in version 5.123:29
Puppy_nickrub: but I can not use the computer while it is up grading?23:29
bulmerNemesisD: i believe with update you can in combination with -x option23:29
AciD``axjv > inkscape, dia23:29
Mark76Still... At least we get it for free23:29
IronWolveanyone have a url for filelist of the dvd install?23:29
murkyMurkBlama[STOLZEN]: then I have no idea. Never had a keyboard be refused like that23:29
PovAddictw00t, downloading23:29
nickrudPuppy_: yes you can use it23:29
gi000Veinor: i will. but the rest of the systems is a bit like this too23:29
sivikis there anything going on with the archive.ubuntu.com repos right now?23:29
anutHey, all.  7.10 doesn't automagically detect my external USB drive, any way I can kick it into doing so?23:29
notvi thought i heard gutsy was supposed to be LTS23:29
cafuegoPuppy_: Mine's upgrading now and I can use the computer just fine.23:29
lukas__Beta-guy, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/23:29
Mark76gi00023:29
siviklike 91.189.88.31 & 91.198.89.623:30
Puppy_ok! thanks!23:30
nickrudnotv: no, 8.10 I think23:30
nbjaymegreetings everyone! :)23:30
Puppy_:)23:30
PovAddictI'm getting a really good speed this way23:30
axjvAciD``: Thanks.23:30
Mark76What's the best voip client that's available in the repos for Ubuntu?23:30
PovAddicteach package from a random mirror23:30
nickrudnotv: or 8.[456]23:30
AciD``cafuego > which serner are you using ?23:30
Owner_so does anyoine know how to get a keyboard working in gutsy a simple ps2 kb jus doesnt respond23:30
earlmredhmm23:30
cafuegosivik: Overloaded, use a different repo.23:30
murkyMurkBlama: could still be a port thing though..maybe new versions has minor bug in USb handling for your hardware?23:30
PovAddictsome give 404 tho23:30
LjL!best > Mark76    (Mark76, see the private message from Ubotu)23:30
gi000Veinor: in the system preferences i have 8 icons for 18 options23:30
earlmredno more ubuntu+1 ?23:30
lymecaHow can I create a custom Ubuntu installation DVD with the packages I choose to be installed?23:30
LjLMark76: ekiga is versatile.23:30
axjvOne more question: I forget the linux equivalent to regedit, what was it again?23:30
Veinorgi000: I can't think of why that would be. are you using the default theme?23:30
Mark76Ekiga23:30
sivikcafuego, what are the other mirrors for it23:30
Owner_worked before the install23:30
cafuegoAciD``: My ISP's private mirror in combination wth apt-cacher running locally.23:30
rskaxjv: there is none23:30
LjLaxjv: there is none. but you're probably thinking of gconf-editor23:30
osmosisis there a channel for ubuntu graphics ?23:30
nbjaymehow does one know which card is assigned as eth0 and so on? what command will display the card assignment?23:31
axjvLjL: Yeah, that was it.23:31
Owner_but not with the gutsy cd23:31
axjvLjL: That's how I think of it.23:31
ePaxI can not get 4 Desktops in Desktop Switcher. I'm on Gutsy.23:31
Owner_i figured after i installed it would fix it23:31
siviknbjayme: by looking at the mac address23:31
lukas__Beta-guy, did you get the url? :P23:31
d|vare there any changes from the RC to the released version23:31
nickrudaxjv: closest thing would be gconf-editor, for editing your personal config stuff23:31
cafuegosivik: XX.archive.ubuntu.com where XX is a 2char country code.23:31
all00hey folks -- tried the upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 -- got left with a partial install. I have now downloaded and burned both the LiveCD and the AlternateCD -- not sure how to perform a full upgrade (I get nervous around the partition configuration). Any ideas?23:31
ColroI'm trying to share a couple of folders on a windows network and it's asking one of the users for a password when he attempts to connect to \\mycomputername -- did I set up something wrong?23:31
PovAddict!final | d|v23:31
ubotud|v: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.23:31
gi000Veinor: i'm not sure as i configured the system a long time ago23:31
Beta-guylukas__: it's not loading, I'll keep trying tho23:31
Owner_and it still refused to work but the mouse seems to work like a champ23:31
d|vthx23:31
adantesay, when you specify modules in /etc/modules, can you usttype the options in there as well?23:31
the_darkside_986anyone with a nvidia 7300 GS able to boot gutsy with a functional desktop?23:32
Beta-guylukas__: it loaded now, thanks23:32
gi000Veinor: it's the style "plastik"23:32
Mark76Still no sys tray plug in for Evolution :(23:32
lukas__np Beta-guy23:32
nickrudadante: no, you need to add the options to a file under /etc/modprobe.d23:32
nbjaymesivik thanks but i don't know the mac address of this lan cards in particular.  is there a way that it'll show the brand/chip name of the card and which ethX it is assigned to?23:32
the_darkside_986i can't get even graphics safe mode to work and i checked the CD23:32
ffmHelp! While downlading from the torrent, I get "Problem Connecting to tracker: Connection refused"23:32
all00hey folks -- tried the upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 -- got left with a partial install. I have now downloaded and burned both the LiveCD and the AlternateCD -- not sure how to perform a full upgrade (I get nervous around the partition configuration). Any ideas?23:32
fever#ubuntu-fr.23:32
Beta-guywhat version of the kernel for 7.10 come with?23:32
bulmernbjayme: how many nic cards do you have? you can manually one by one check it23:32
cafuego2.6.22-1423:32
rskBeta-guy: 2.6.2223:32
ColroI'm trying to share a couple of folders on a windows network and it's asking one of the users for a password when he attempts to connect to \\mycomputername -- did I set up something wrong?23:32
sivik!topic23:33
Veinorgi000: try using a different icon theme?23:33
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic23:33
Beta-guysweet!23:33
AciD``I wonder if there is any *.archive.ubuntu.com server still up23:33
AciD``:)23:33
nbjaymebulmer, i have two one via and one realtek23:33
gi000Veinor: i will try to "use another style in gtk applications"23:33
sivikAciD``, i'm with you, i dont think there is23:33
Owner_ so does anyoine know how to get a keyboard working in gutsy a simple ps2 kb jus doesnt respond23:33
Owner_<Owner_> worked before the install23:33
Owner_<Owner_> but not with the gutsy cd23:33
Owner_<Owner_> i figured after i installed it would fix it23:33
Owner_<Owner_> and it still refused to work but the mouse seems to work like a champ23:33
sivikAciD``, i have tried about 10 and none of them work23:33
Pirate_Hunter!themes23:33
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy23:33
bulmernbjayme: then one by one check it, to figure out which mac address belongs to which23:33
whileimherewow I cant even get synaptic to reload its sources23:33
Veinorgi000: wait, you're running kde?23:33
gi000Veinor: yes23:33
adantenickrud: hm ok23:33
nbjaymebulmer okay.23:33
Gringo_after the Gutsy upgrade i now have several language mixups. is this a known problem?23:33
nickrudmaybe they should be upgraded from 486's ;)23:34
hipitihopI have 5 machines at home running 7.04 and I would like to update all of them to 7.10, is it possible to somehow cache the network upgrade (one via update manager) so that all machines don't download each time ?23:34
AciD``let's have a though for the poor ubuntu servers23:34
AciD``:)23:34
all00Anyone know how to perform an upgrade from CD?23:34
Veinorgi000: try asking in #kubuntu23:34
AciD``hipitihop > apt-cacher23:34
jwrhi, has anybody here used any of the acx drivers for wifi?23:34
whileimhereis there somewhere else to get unrar23:34
d|v!final23:34
ubotuIf you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.23:34
the_darkside_986why doesn't failsafe graphics option work for me in gutsy? it has the same effect--black screen and X doesn't even report an error?23:34
gi000Veinor: indeed, i should have tried this first23:34
d|v!final d|v23:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about final d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:34
Mark76Anyone else see that story about the guy who made a supercomputer by stringing a bunch of PS3s together?23:34
bulmerjwr i have used the ti chips23:35
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jwri'm getting errors all over the place :(23:35
jwrioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported23:35
neverblue2#+1 not up?23:35
jwrstuff like that23:35
Mark76Now THAT'S impressive23:35
sivikno wonder the archive is slow, 7.10 came out today23:35
hipitihopAciD``, not familiar with it but will read up. Would that be the preferred way or should I download one of the ISO to update all the machines manually ?23:35
nickrudthe_darkside_986: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , that should have some useful info23:35
jwrthis is trying to connect to an open access point23:35
PovAddictMark76: hold on23:35
cafuegoneverblue: There isn't a +1 currently.23:35
fkumroJust installed 7.10 - Turned desktop effects off and now when I use the quit button in gnome the computer freezes (well gui)23:35
PovAddictMark76: http://gravity.phy.umassd.edu/rackfront.jpg23:36
the_darkside_986@nickrud how do i look at that file whenever i can't get gdm to quit making the black screen in the live cd?23:36
larson9999oh, woa is my dell inspiron 8200 and 3d.23:36
AciD``hipitihop > it depends if you want to upgrade now or in 2 days :)23:36
nickrudnot only not a +1, it's forbidden23:36
PovAddictMark76: rack-mounted PS3s :P23:36
Sp0tUbHi! Can someone tell me if the digital signing i have to use regarding SMTP in ubuntu / Evolution, is that the one identifying one?23:36
emefarrjoin #ubuntu-wisconsin23:36
sivikcrap23:36
bulmerplease respond with my nick as prefix or else i will miss23:36
adantecan you define shortcuts to do custom thngs in theubuntu interface?23:36
nickrudthe_darkside_986: try hitting clt-alt-f1 , you should get a console (I'm not real familiar with the live cd, but it should be there)23:36
the_darkside_986also i got the desktop-i386 iso and its md5 sum is d2... something. i got it via torrent? it isn't beta is it?23:36
Sp0tUb!digital signing23:37
fkumroanyone else have the quit button (green running guy) freeze gnome?23:37
adanteas in, make a particular key/combo launch a specific app23:37
murkyMurkthe_darkside_986: does ctl+alt+F2 givev you a console?23:37
nbjaymebulmer, got it using cat var/log/messages | grep eth23:37
the_darkside_986also i tried using the Ctrl+Alt+F# keys to try to get to another console but gdm always reappaers with its black screen23:37
pppoe_dudeadante, yes23:37
PovAddicthttp://gravity.phy.umassd.edu/ps3.html23:37
thunterhas anyone heard any updates about the nvidia-glx-new drivers in relation to dual/dual core cpus and nvidia cards?23:37
adantepppoe_dude: whereabouts do you go todo that?23:37
mitchWhats up with none of the software supporting i368?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41134/23:37
pppoe_dudeadante, system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts23:37
bulmernbjayme: cool23:37
murkyMurkthe_darkside_986: known bug. hang on23:37
the_darkside_986ok23:38
sivikthunter: don't try installing any 8800 or 8600 with the drivers from the ubuntu repos, install the drivers from nvidia to get it working23:38
adantepppoe_dude: i took a lookat that, couldn't figure out how to make it launch a custom command?23:38
ColroI'm trying to share a couple of folders on a windows network and it's asking one of the users for a password when he attempts to connect to \\mycomputername -- did I set up something wrong?23:38
whileimhere!unrar23:38
hipitihopAciD``, this my main machine is in the middle of the upgrade so I guess it is too late to do anything about whatever it has already done and and I'm in no rush for the other machines.23:38
pppoe_dudeadante, oh custom command... hold on23:38
nickrudadante: yes, gconf-editor, navigate to /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands & global_keybindings23:38
_6StringKng_colro, I get the same thing23:38
thuntersivik, i have a 7600 GS. will that work?23:38
rorin the previous compiz ctrl+alt+up gave an alt-tab like thing, what's happened to that in the latest ver?23:38
sivikthunter: should work with the new nvidia-glx-new23:38
crdlbror, shift+alt+up23:38
pppoe_dudeadante, ya you probably want to do what nickrud said23:38
gi000Veinor: goodby23:38
all00tried the upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 -- got left with a partial install. I have now downloaded and burned both the LiveCD and the AlternateCD -- not sure how to perform a full upgrade (I get nervous around the partition configuration). Any ideas?23:39
sivikthunter, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and read up on the nvidia23:39
crdlbror, you can change the binding in ccsm23:39
adantenickrud, pppoe_dude: thanks guys23:39
DopplerDeffectIs there any way to set gimp to use both my cores? currently it's only using one which isn't entirely efficient23:39
murkyMurkthe_darkside_986: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3543769 < <<<and many others. Usually a simple edit of booting parameter fixes it..either nospalsh or a new vga number23:39
thuntersivik, thanks23:39
whileimhere!severas23:39
sivikthunter, yw23:39
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rorthanks crdlb but where's the setting Ican't find it23:40
rorwhat's it called now?23:40
crdlbror, in ccsm, it's called "Scale"23:40
rorthanks23:40
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rorI love how much better this version is than the buggy pos I tried 4 months ago!23:41
Unbutu[G33Z3Rwhy cant i log in   root23:41
`m0very nice takes 1 hour and 30 minutes to installl gutsy FROM upgrade :<23:41
_6StringKng_running RC now, no cds to do fresh install, hehe23:41
PovAddictUnbutu[G33Z3R: because you aren't supposed to, use sudo23:41
murkyMurk!root23:41
Lamego!sudo > Unbutu[G33Z3R23:41
AciD``Unbutu[G33Z3R > if you want root access password, just do sudo passwd root23:42
vbabiyHello everyone23:42
Unbutu[G33Z3Rbut  i wanna run as root  i can use terminal   easy enough just cant copy paste a repository to /etc23:42
skyrocker67why cant I get my bmc43XX wifi?23:42
CinnabelleSo... I put in the Ubuntu 7.10 CD and tell it to start/install, the loading bar goes all the way up, then in changes to a blinking _ for a couple seconds, then the monitor shuts off. Anyone have ideas?23:42
pppoe_dudeubuntulog, use sudo -s23:42
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rorI love the winkey+tab function too!23:42
sivikyou can also sudo su and run as root23:42
LamegoUnbutu[G33Z3R, pleas read the message from motu23:42
pppoe_dudeUnbutu[G33Z3R, use sudo -s23:42
DopplerDeffectIs there any way to set gimp to use both my cores? currently it's only using one which isn't entirely efficient23:42
murkyMurkUnbutu[G33Z3R: then use sudo -i23:42
rorCinnabelle, sounds like a refresh rate issue or graphics card setting of some sort23:42
Unbutu[G33Z3Rk23:42
Cinnabelleror: Any idea what I can do about that? :323:43
AciD``huhu "Il est nécessaire de prendre 1516Mo dans les archives." a 1516MB upgrade23:43
AciD``:)23:43
punzadadoes anyone know a way in gnome to get the 'show desktop' button to ignore a certain window?23:43
LamegoDopplerDeffect, that is not something you can setup, only applications which use multiple processes can explore the 2 cores23:43
sebasteshrm, somebody mentioned no window borders after upgrade, was there a fix for that?23:43
skyrocker67using gustyrc-i38623:43
marex_v2anyone an idea why radeon x1600 does not work with vesa?23:43
_6StringKng_because ati sucks23:43
mitchbonesReally noob question, Whats up with none of the software supporting i368?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41134/23:43
hipitihopcan someone tell me how to run the system monitor from the command line ?23:43
knahi, i tried sudo apt-get install libglib-1.2 dev, but it says the file cant be found, what is wrong?23:43
sivikyes, ati blows23:43
DopplerDeffectLamego, thanks23:43
siviklack of open source of the drivers23:43
PovAddicthipitihop: top?23:43
pppoe_dudehipitihop, either gnome-system-monitor or top for a cli equivalent23:44
garuhi everyone23:44
Skyblasthiya23:44
WhitorIs there a way to customize the Ubuntu startup screen with the little 'scrolly bar'?23:44
NullNoneIf i installed Ubuntu 7.10 beta and used Update Manager to install all updates is this the same as installing final version of Ubuntu?23:44
kst-is archive.ubuntu.com somehow slow or broken or anything? when i try to update my installation (already on gutsy from alternate cd) it cant download any updates (not the packages, just the information about packages)... whats up with this?23:44
hipitihopPovAddict,  pppoe_dude , thankg I was after the gnome one23:44
pppoe_dudeCinnabelle, what gfx card are you using?23:44
WhitorNullNone: yes23:44
Lamegokst, it is slow due to high demand23:44
knahi, i tried sudo apt-get install libglib-1.2 dev, but it says the file cant be found, what is wrong?23:45
_6StringKng_k, for gusty can I get the ctrl+alt+delete system monitor liek I had in feisty, instead of havign to navigate through the system menu?23:45
the_darkside_986too bad this release didn't come with the new xorg. i have a feeling i will have to edit my x config to say "vesa"23:45
NullNoneWhitor: thanks23:45
murkyMurkkna: it's called libglib1.2-dev23:45
siriusnovahey guys is there any way to see what my samba server is logging every time someone connects, ie i want to troubleshoot why my macbook can't connect to my ubuntu samba share23:45
siriusnovawhat log should i be looking at?23:45
WhitorNullNone: I did the same thing :)23:45
pppoe_dudesiriusnova, try /var/log/ ?23:45
Picisiriusnova: /var/log/auth.log probably23:45
pppoe_dudeprobably a smbd log in there or something, sirdork_23:45
nomaShi, anybody know why i start ssh server , but nobody cant connect to my pc i already got ports open23:45
rayb0tis anybody having problems with alsa? the only volume channels that work right now are my surround channels. like, my normal audio is coming out of the wrong port on my sound card...23:46
LamegonomaS, have you installed openssh-server ?23:46
nomaSLamego yes23:46
LamegonomaS, are you behind a NAT router ?23:46
RogueShadowanybody here running gusty with an athlon 64 X2, and Geforce860023:46
pppoe_dudenomaS, what does netstat -tapn | grep sshd give?23:46
nomaSwell, let me see23:46
garuhas anyone had any problems upgrading from the release candidate to the final release?23:47
bmk789nomaS: are you trying to connect using hostname or IP?23:47
sirhaxalotahhrg, where can i ask about problems in 7.10?23:47
LamegonomaS, if you do, you must forward connections on port 22 to your internal server23:47
knaim installing gtk 1.2 and i get an error that X is missing, do i have to install X?23:47
pppoe_dude!anyone > garu23:47
_6StringKng_running rc now, haven't had any update syet23:47
Lamegogaru, no23:47
Lamegoi mean, not me23:47
Whitorgaru: not me23:47
knacan i type sudo apt-get install X?23:47
garuor, even better, has anyone had any problems after upgrading from the release candidate to the final release?23:47
Lamegokna, why are you installing gtk-1.2 ?23:47
michelhi .. got a problem with my wifi card (prism minipci isl3890): worked like a charm from live cd, after installing gutsy i cant connect to any wpa ap. wpasupplicant is installed, prism54 module loaded ... anyone an idea what's causing this?23:47
nomaSLamego, i already opened that ports on my modem (isp internet provider)23:47
sirhaxalotgaru YES23:47
jcolehow do i install vmware player23:47
knai want to install airsnort23:47
pppoe_dudekna, no, you have to pick an xserver... like xserver-xorg probably23:47
nomaSpppoe_dude, nothing show me23:47
knaand it says 1.2 is required23:47
garuLamego did u upgrade from the release candidate?23:48
LamegonomaS, is is not about "ports opening" it is abourt ports forwarding23:48
murkyMurkkna: yes, gtk is a graphical 'thing' so it kida expects X to be installed23:48
nomaSbmk789, IP23:48
Jimdb<---7.04 for the time being on this comp.  have a second comp with a base 7.10 install.  having issues getting packages for things like samba from off the net.  other issues to that I assume are part of the overload from people trying to get the .iso file.23:48
Lamegogaru, yes23:48
skyrocker67i have 43 updates listed in rc but cant get them23:48
pppoe_dudenomaS, then you either don't have sshd running, or you don't have it installed23:48
knai think .?configure does the job23:48
jcolekna: http://www.nubuntu.org/23:48
Whitorjcole: follow the how to for feisty... except skip the patch part23:48
knahow can i define an x server?23:48
mjkelly93murkymurk: i installed the newest version of alsa from source with no problems, my /proc/asound/version verifies that its running 1.0.15 now, however, it didnt fix my problem and still didnt detect my card, now im pretty much lost23:48
Lamegoskyrocker67, the mirrors are overloaded23:48
Whitorjcole: I installed it today :)23:48
skyrocker67ok23:48
sirhaxalotif anyone has this issue solved pm/ me "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" please, cant get this fixed in 7.10 final23:48
Lamegoskyrocker67, it is a server side issue not related to the upgrade process itself ;)23:48
garusirhaxalot did you have problems?I had too...my installation went crazy, now I start getting blackscreen sometimes if I restart, My wireless is always dropping...23:48
nomaSpppoe_dude, but i sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start and then show me "ok"23:48
pppoe_dudejcole, wither apt-get install vmware-player, or apt-get install vmware-server (which includes a lot more than the player)23:49
nomaSLamego, how can i do that ?23:49
AzMoo[w]Hey, is there a way to see exactly which file a kernel module is using?23:49
jcolepppoe_dude: doesnt work23:49
garuLamego no problems whatsoever after the upgrade?23:49
NullNoneWhitor: Should i change my sources.list or add any extra repositories, that was added in final version?23:49
jcolepppoe_dude: looks like there is a bug with gutsy kernel23:49
pppoe_dudejcole, did you enable multiverse?23:49
Jimdbhow do i get amarok to install on 7.10 now?  it doesn't list amarok as part of the packages.  it only lists amarok-engines23:49
jcolepppoe_dude: ya23:49
neverblue2how can I Feisty-23:49
sirhaxalothuge problems with mounting hdd's partitions23:49
LamegonomaS, grab your router manual, and search for the port forwarding config, is is something out of the scope of this channel ;)23:49
skyrocker67then could anyone tell me how to get my bmc 43XX wifi going?23:49
murkyMurkmjkelly93: thanks for the update. Pretty much down to buying a new card then :-(23:49
bmk789sirhaxalot: here23:49
neverblue2->Gutsy from command line23:49
pppoe_dudejcole, and all other package repos? including commercial?23:49
knawtf, do i need to install nubuntu to use gtk 1.2?23:49
WhitorNullNone: no. you didn't change your sources list to get the beta did you ?23:49
jcolepppoe_dude: not commercial... can you do it?23:49
nomaS* Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                                                                           [ OK ]23:50
skyrocker67suppose to be three click slovrd23:50
sirhaxalotbmk789: same problem?23:50
garuskyrocker67 did u manage to fully upgrade to the final release?23:50
sensaeI'm running 7.04, I just did an update to 7.10, and about 2/3rds through upgrading packages a package I installed failed to update and killed the entire update process. I can't continue the update now, the update manager says I'm up to date.23:50
pppoe_dudejcole, go to system>administration> software sources23:50
NullNoneWhitor: no23:50
pppoe_dudejcole, then enable the commercial repository, update list files and you should be fine23:50
jcolepppoe_dude: vmplayer is in the gutsy repos, just not the kernel modules23:50
mjkelly93murkymurk i know id hate to do that too i just bought this one dammit23:50
skyrocker67no fresh install23:50
nomaSLamego, i think then i will left the ssh , because i really dont know where it is23:50
therethinkerHmm... in windows, my friend's HD has 25GB free space. When he goes to resize it, thers only 7MiB. He defraged it, sot thats not it -- any other possibilities?23:50
bmk789sirhaxalot: no nvm my chat window hadnt scrolled my bad23:50
pppoe_dudejcole, ah so it's a broken package?23:50
knaim here at ultra low bandwith connect in the near of nothing, will try out to get that 200 megs chunl tommorrow ... gn8 everyone23:50
WhitorNullNone: good. leave them alone and you'll be in good shape.23:50
mjkelly93murkymurk i wish these ppl in #alsa would say something maybe i can get some help directly from them23:50
sensaeSo it warned me that my system wasn't fully upgraded, and the update manager says it's fully updated23:50
sirhaxalotbmk789: okay23:51
toplokany suggestion where to get asap18's p5ke.zip file ?23:51
garusirhaxalot me, right after installing ubuntu, in a separate partition, I noticed that I lost my sabayon installation.lol23:51
jcolepppoe_dude: ya23:51
LuCypherhi, probably a stupid question, I've seen a mail notification plugin i evolution, does it only works when evolution is opened?23:51
pppoe_dudejcole, try to enable all the sources and try again. see if you get anything different23:51
mjkelly93Anyone out there very familiar with ALSA sound? i just installed from source the newest version to get my new usb sound card working with no solution23:51
skyrocker67should i have upgraded instead?23:51
shwetag23:51
moofooi started the do-release-upgrade but i get "2007-10-19 00:50:19,965 ERROR pre-requists item 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/release-upgrader-dpkg/release-upgrader-dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu11.2_i386.udeb' is NOT trusted" in main.log, how comes?23:51
murkyMurkmjkelly93: pretty dead channel....www.linuxquestions.org is a good bet though, full of happy experts23:51
shwetawhups.  Hallo, joined here accidentally.23:51
kst-is it on purpose that all these apps listed in "other" (or whatever it is in english) dont have a real iconß23:51
kst-?23:51
mjkelly93murkymurk thanks ill check that out23:51
murkyMurkmjkelly93: * www.linuxquestions.net23:51
Whitorshweta: hi23:52
LuCypher#gnome23:52
axjvAre there any programs for making charts? I need to make a nice-looking pie chart quickly and easily.23:52
inter-netLuCypher: I dont think so.23:52
bmk789axjv: openoffice spreadsheet?23:52
sco50000i need some help23:52
AzMoo[w]Hey, does anybody know how to find out exactly what file is being loaded when I do: modprobe vmxnet ?23:52
Lamegoaxjv, open office ?23:52
murkyMurklol either org or net now...clever penguins23:52
Ademan do i need to do anything special on a remote computer to enable rsync?  I have rsync installed, and I can ssh in, but i keep getting permission denied when i enter my password when i run 'rsync dan/ dan@dan-desktop/media/sda1/bak/'   why?23:52
pppoe_dudesco50000, you're in the right place23:52
JohnRobertHi, Pidgin was working about 5 minutes ago, then it dissapeared, and now it won't connect to any servers (msn/jabber)...I keep getting this error: Server requires TLS/SSL for login.  No TLS/SSL support found. Like I say, I was connected and chatting 5 minutes ago. I upgraded to gutsy this morning - that's probably something to do with it :/23:52
amrhello, i have a core duo processor and i need to adjust it into powersaving whenever i boot i set it manually how to permanetly activate it23:52
JohnRobertany ideas?23:53
shwetaWhitor, hi, sorry, just about to tiptoe quietly out the back.  I'm not entirely used to the version of xchat on this computer, is all :)23:53
axjvLamego: The charts that it makes look a little weird.23:53
sco50000is it possible to install ubuntu 7.10, if i already have win xp installed?23:53
Unbutu[G33Z3Rsudo -s makes me root but i still cant copy paste a text file into etc23:53
Lamegorsync can use either an rsync service, or an ssh service23:53
Beta-guyI tried following the instructions of release note I removed linux-image-powerpc64-smp linux-powerpc64-smp and linux that went ok but when I try to install linux-cell it says it couldn't find the package23:53
sco50000i want to keep xp, too23:53
mjkelly93murkymurk last time i logged in there was november of '05 haha, first time i had to go outside of ubuntuforums for something since then i guess23:53
nickrudAzAzmo add .ko to the end, then locate vmxnet23:53
Beta-guyhow do I help it find the package?23:53
inter-netAdeman: try sshing in as root23:53
riotkittie!dualboot | sco5000023:53
sensaeDoes anyone know how I would get ubuntu to continue the upgrade process?23:53
riotkittieyes, sco50000. it is possible.23:53
garuAzMoo[w] I think it would be vmxnet check with lsmod before and after issuing the command23:53
bulmerAdeman: are you sure the user logging on to the remote has the correct permission to write to specified dir?23:53
marcos_hi23:53
axjvLamego: Is there anything like an Illustrator clone with pie-chart capabilities?23:53
pppoe_dudeUnbutu[G33Z3R, copy/past a textfile from command line?23:53
LuCypherinter-net : so do you thin it works only when evolution is opened? I've seen I have evolution-data-server always running...23:53
marcos_i need help23:53
riotkittiesco50000: do you have free space on your hard drive? how much?23:53
Lamegoaxjv, no idea23:53
marcos_with my ubuntu desktoop23:53
Whitorshack: ,23:53
AzMoo[w]garu: right, ok, I'll try that, thanks.23:53
sco50000150GB free23:53
Ademanbulmer: yep, well, sorta, but i figured it would fail LATER than the password verification23:54
sco50000it's a 200GB drive23:54
marcos_any speak spanish23:54
dublpawssco50000: make sure to backup you data. <-  o:)23:54
sco50000i did already23:54
mon^rchwhat's everybody's avg kbps for installing from the gutsy repos'?23:54
garuAzMoo[w] no prob23:54
pppoe_dudemarcos, #ubuntu-es23:54
PriceChildmarcos_, #ubuntu-es23:54
AMDfanboydo i lose anything by doing the upgrade as opposed to a fresh instal?  and have there been lots of problems with hte upgrade?  thanks!23:54
real_atehi again all23:54
therethinkerHmm... in windows, my friend's HD has 25GB free space. When he goes to resize it, thers only 7MiB. He defraged it, sot thats not it -- any other possibilities?23:54
inter-netLuCypher: yes, you will not need the client running for the notifications23:54
NullNoneWhitor: thanks again for the annsver on my stupid question23:54
marcos_tanks23:54
capiiraaxjv use inkscape23:54
Unbutu[G33Z3Rpppoe_dude:  nah made a text file with a few raposatory urls  was hoping to copy paste them into  a source list allready  in  ect23:54
bulmerAdeman: what do you mean sorta? its either has the perms or not23:54
LamegoAMDfanboy, if your /home is on a different partition, fresh install is prefered23:54
bulmerbrb..am afk23:54
sco50000now what do i do next?23:54
WhitorNullNone: I subscribe the the 'no questions are stupid' theory23:54
axjvcapiira: Thanks, I have it but I'm still trying to figure it out.23:54
sco50000it's all defraged23:54
sivikgod, this is bloody slow23:54
Lamegobut it is your responsibility to understand where you place your data :)23:54
LuCypherinter-net : I'll try to send myself a mail and see what happens23:54
jcolepppoe_dude: ill look in commercial repos23:54
xloadanyone know why my virtualbox stucked at "starting virtual machine at 0%" ?23:54
WhitorI have plenty of stupid questions of my own23:55
capiiraaxjv, just make a circle and open it23:55
Ademanbulmer: well i gave the permissions to /media/bak to the group bak, and added 'dan' to it, but iirc sometimes you need to log out then back in for things like that to take effect don't you?23:55
riotkittiesco50000: ok, then you are good to go. just grab the live CD and install. you may want to use XP's partitioner to carve out a chunk of free space  bu tthe live CD will do it for you too. and you'll be able to boot into either OS when you have completed the install23:55
NullNoneWhitor:;-)23:55
sivik!aclocal23:55
tapioHow can I make gnome-terminal use Nordic (ISO-8859-10) by instead of the current locale (en_US.UTF-8) by default?23:55
AMDfanboyLamego, no its right where its supposed to be :-).  why do you mention that?23:55
capiiraaxjv there is xaralx too23:55
garuAMDfanboy some people have problems with the upgrade, some dont...I have trying to upgrade from the rc to the final release, but there was another guy who didnt, I think it depends of your machine...give it a try, it might work, or it might not...23:55
real_atejust want to share the egg on my face with anyone else who is trying to upgrade their kubuntu to gutsy, i downloaded the ubuntu alternate install cd and was trying to install... that was my problem23:55
Beta-guyhow do I install Linux-cell from apt-get23:55
jcolepppoe_dude: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/23:55
jcolepppoe_dude: server only23:56
Unbutu[G33Z3Rapt-get install linux-cell23:56
inter-netBeta-guy: try apt-catch23:56
sco50000i have another problem :(  the live cd will boot, but when i select "start or install", it starts loading and then justs gets stuck during loading23:56
sensaeI'm running 7.04, I just did an update to 7.10, and about 2/3rds through upgrading packages a package I installed failed to update and killed the entire update process. I can't continue the update now, the update manager says I'm up to date.23:56
LamegoAMDfanboy, because some people to move data to non /home places ;)23:56
inter-netapt-cache search*23:56
Meshezabeelsco50000: how much ram you have?23:56
AMDfanboyand then the upgrade cant find it?23:56
axjvcapiira: I made the circle, now what?23:56
DerykHello, how can i give an user access to edit, delete, move, copy (everything) to a directory and all subfiles/subdirectories?23:56
sco500002GB23:56
Colrois anyone able to help me with file sharing on a windows network? im able to see the windows computers' files, but whenever they attempt to connect to me it prompts them for a password23:56
garusco50000 try starting in safe graphics mode23:56
LamegoAMDfanboy, my recommendation is to always keep your data in /home, on a specific partition23:56
sco50000i did23:56
Deryki mounted my webserver and i want to do everything i want with it.23:56
sco50000same thing23:56
Ademanbulmer: also it seems i CAN'T ssh into the box anymore... i wonder what's up with that, i AM using a host name instead of the ip like normal, i'll give that a try23:56
inter-netdoes anyone know why the 64bit version of ubuntu is in grayscale23:57
kinectionsare there download statistics for ubuntu anywhere?23:57
Beta-guyinter-net: it says command not found23:57
AMDfanboyok, i'm probably fine then, i'll give it a shot!23:57
Dr_Link[desktop]How much RAM does the LiveCD for Fiesty take?23:57
AMDfanboythanks!23:57
inter-netthe splash screen*23:57
jaredis it worth it to just go ahead and dwnload the new version of ubuntu and do a fesh install...or would it work just as well to use 7.04, install, and upgrade?23:57
kitcheinter-net: it's not but usplash has a bug that makes it like that23:57
LamegoDr_Link[desktop], the minimum recommended is 320 MBs (I believe)23:57
DerykHello, how can i give an user access to edit, delete, move, copy (everything) to a directory and all subfiles/subdirectories? i mounted my webserver and i want to do everything i want with it. At the moment i cant delete files.. :(23:57
capiiraaxjv now move the "round" selector23:57
Ademanbulmer: for the record the ip worked but not the hostname (for ssh, i'm gonna try rsync with the IP)23:57
pppoe_dudejcole, server aint bad23:57
Unbutu[G33Z3Ri have 2 hdds one with xp pro and the other  unbuntu can i make a partion on the umbuntu drive  a fat 32 so both linux and xp can ggrab media  and music files off?23:57
Dr_Link[desktop]Lamego: Any chance of running it on 64 MB?23:57
murkyMurkDeryk: sudo chown <user> <dir> -R; chgrp <group> <dir> -R23:57
sirhaxalotDr_Link: i have run live feisty on 128 mb23:57
Colrois anyone able to help me with file sharing on a windows network? im able to see the windows computers' files, but whenever they attempt to connect to me it prompts them for a password23:57
pppoe_dudejcole, it is basically player + a lot more features23:57
axjvcapiira: It's already selected...23:58
LamegoAdeman, if the hostname dit not work, then you have a name resolution issue, it is pointing to the wrong IP ;)23:58
pppoe_dudejcole, like making virtual machines without a hassle23:58
sivikDeryk: chmod -R 777 /specified/folder23:58
capiiraaxjv use the tool bellow black arrow23:58
sivik777 is read write execute for all users and groups23:58
Derykthanks sivik23:58
LamegoDr_Link[desktop], no, neither would have much use, gnome will not run with 64 MBs23:58
Keltuswow, this channel just gained about 400 users today23:58
sn0whow do i configure tracker, or does it piggy back on the indexing preferences from the gnome menu?23:58
capiiraaxjv and move the "round" handle23:58
Deryki didnt know -R Is for all subdirectories too23:58
sco50000so can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu live cd wont load?23:58
sivikDeryk, yw, its not smart to do that with you www folder, opens a huge hole23:58
younan1anyone else getting "Getting Upgrade Prerequisites failed:The system was unable to get the prerequisites"23:58
sivikyes -R is recursive23:58
Unbutu[G33Z3Ri have 2 hdds one with xp pro and the other  unbuntu can i make a partion on the umbuntu drive  a fat 32 so both linux and xp can ggrab media  and music files off?23:59
capiiraaxjv there are 2 square and a round one! move the round one23:59
kst-is desktop-effects obsolete in gutsy? i still have that entry in system properties menu, but it cant be launched23:59
capiirao23:59
hipitihopColro, see one of the ubuntu guides it discusses how to set up your fstab to mount those shares and to provide a file with usename password for them23:59
garuKeltus yeah, it gets harder to type...gotta be even faster.lol23:59
LamegoUnbutu[G33Z3R, Gutsy is able to access ntfs23:59
Deryksivik -> i still cant delete files23:59
younan1i'm so eager to upgrade to gutsy, its working fine on one of my computers, but update-manager keeps saying on the other "Getting Upgrade Prerequisites failed:The system was unable to get the prerequisites"23:59
axjvcapiira: What's the shortcut for it? All I see is circle creation and something about nodes.23:59
sivikDeryk: then there is something going on23:59
jcolepppoe_dude: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player/+bug/151424 :/23:59
murkyMurksco50000: it's usually hardware compatibility...sometime terminal but usually sorted with a boot parametr such as noapci23:59
axjvcapiira: Keyboard shortcut*23:59
PriceChildkst-, it has been merged into the "appearance" one23:59
locellcountAnyone know what the default font was on feisty? I just updated to gutsy and the font is just nasty, sans23:59
Deryki have a directory called /testserver23:59

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