| gnomefreak | jeffwheeler: yes | 00:00 |
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| gnomefreak | jeffwheeler: install edubuntu-desktop | 00:00 |
| jeffwheeler | gnomefreak: okay; I'm not running Ubuntu at the moment, but I was considering edubuntu at school for the LTSP simplicity | 00:01 |
| gnomefreak | jeffwheeler: edubuntu should be fine to install than it still uses gnome and has most of gnome apps | 00:02 |
| gnomefreak | not sure if it installs all i havent installed from edubuntu cd in a while | 00:02 |
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| === jack_wyt_ is now known as jack_wyt | ||
| Ziroday | I can't seem to get LTSP to work, do i have to set some sort of default ip addresses or something? | 03:41 |
| Ziroday | anyone? | 03:45 |
| Burgundavia | Ziroday: how is it not working? | 03:46 |
| Ziroday | when booting the client i get a "media check failed" error | 03:48 |
| Ziroday | however i was using the same cable, and ports before and it was woeking fine | 03:48 |
| Ziroday | s/woeking/working | 03:48 |
| Burgundavia | you certain you are booting to the network and not a cd or harddrive? | 03:50 |
| Ziroday | Yes | 03:50 |
| Ziroday | network is first in boot list | 03:50 |
| Ziroday | i mean order | 03:50 |
| Ziroday | there is also no lights on the ethernet port?, is that normal | 03:51 |
| Ziroday | Burgundavia: ? | 03:55 |
| Burgundavia | Ziroday: no lights means no connect | 03:59 |
| Burgundavia | connection, rather | 04:00 |
| Burgundavia | try a different cable | 04:00 |
| Ziroday | Need help with LTSP on my client keeps saying Media check failed | 04:02 |
| Burgundavia | Ziroday: hey, did you try a different cable? | 04:03 |
| Ziroday | trying that now | 04:04 |
| Ziroday | well now it says no boot offers were recieved | 04:05 |
| Ziroday | :( | 04:05 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 04:05 |
| Burgundavia | is there a green light on the NIC on the client? | 04:06 |
| Burgundavia | is there a green light on the NIC on the client? | 04:06 |
| Ziroday | yea | 04:06 |
| Burgundavia | what about the server? | 04:06 |
| Ziroday | same | 04:07 |
| Burgundavia | have you ever booted a client off this server befgore?\ | 04:07 |
| Ziroday | yes | 04:07 |
| Burgundavia | do you have a booted client on it right now? | 04:07 |
| Ziroday | should the ip static or dhcp? | 04:07 |
| Ziroday | not booted but waiting | 04:07 |
| Burgundavia | the NIC on the server connected to the clients should be static | 04:07 |
| Ziroday | has PXE | 04:07 |
| Burgundavia | the client should be dhcp | 04:08 |
| Ziroday | What should the IP adresses of the server be? | 04:08 |
| Burgundavia | whatever you want | 04:08 |
| Ziroday | ok | 04:08 |
| Burgundavia | you need the dhcp lease range in the same subnet as the server | 04:09 |
| Burgundavia | but if you have successfully booted something off this server before | 04:09 |
| Ziroday | ok | 04:09 |
| Burgundavia | what has changed? | 04:09 |
| Ziroday | It broke on a plane | 04:09 |
| Burgundavia | is this a new client or a new network? | 04:09 |
| Burgundavia | what broke? | 04:09 |
| Ziroday | new client, new network and the Raid | 04:09 |
| Ziroday | we fixed the raid already | 04:10 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 04:10 |
| Burgundavia | do you have a crossover cable or a laptop | 04:10 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 04:10 |
| Ziroday | crossover cable? | 04:10 |
| Ziroday | no its just a direct linik currently from the server to the client | 04:11 |
| Burgundavia | ahh | 04:11 |
| Burgundavia | for that you need a crossover cable | 04:11 |
| Burgundavia | did you buy this cable? | 04:11 |
| Ziroday | no but its working fine before with a ethernet cable and a switch | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | right | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | in order to connect two computers together, you need a special cable | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | where the in goes to the out and the out to the in, basically | 04:12 |
| Burgundavia | if you don't have one of those, you are going to need a switch | 04:12 |
| Ziroday | If I put it though a switch to i still need the cable? | 04:13 |
| Ziroday | ah right soory | 04:13 |
| Ziroday | *sorry | 04:13 |
| Ziroday | okay I'll wire it through the switch now | 04:13 |
| Burgundavia | rocking, that should get you up and running | 04:13 |
| Ziroday | ok | 04:13 |
| Ziroday | ill try it brb | 04:13 |
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| Ziroday | nope | 04:15 |
| Ziroday | same error "No DHCP or BOOTP recieved" | 04:16 |
| Ziroday | :( | 04:17 |
| Ziroday | grr internet keeps dropping | 04:18 |
| Ziroday | sorry Burgundivia | 04:18 |
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| === elkkubuntu is now known as myrttiubuntu | ||
| Meshezabeel | any known problems with new 7.10? | 07:08 |
| kgoetz | es, see the release note :) | 07:09 |
| kgoetz | *notes | 07:09 |
| Meshezabeel | tx kgoetz | 07:12 |
| === myrttiubuntu is now known as ubuntunonaked | ||
| === ubuntunonaked is now known as ubuntunonakedgir | ||
| === ubuntunonakedgir is now known as ubuntuhowfix | ||
| === ubuntuhowfix is now known as howfixhowfixhowf | ||
| === howfixhowfixhowf is now known as howfixbadubuntu | ||
| === howfixbadubuntu is now known as ubuntushit | ||
| === ubuntushit is now known as ubuntuopshit | ||
| === ubuntuopshit is now known as ubuntuisshit | ||
| === ubuntuisshit is now known as ubuntus | ||
| === ogra__ is now known as ogra | ||
| dawkirst | hi. if I would like to install some educational applications from the CD (i.e., without an active internet connection), how can I go about doing this? | 11:39 |
| ogra | use the addon CD | 11:46 |
| dawkirst | ogra, could you please explain that? | 11:48 |
| ogra | the edu apps are on the addon CD ... http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/gutsy/ | 11:48 |
| ogra | if oyu pop that into an installed edubuntu system it will offer you to install edu apps | 11:49 |
| dawkirst | thabks | 11:49 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 15:10 |
| bddebian | Heya | 15:35 |
| desertc | Hello -- How do I join the team efforts? | 15:48 |
| sbalneav | Well! You've come to the right place. | 15:55 |
| sbalneav | What would you like to/can do? | 15:55 |
| desertc | I am a bit of a meet and greet kind of guy, and I have been talking with a good number of educators lately. I realized I was recreating a lot of efforts of the Edubuntu team. | 15:58 |
| desertc | I was chatting with someone in #ubuntu-marketing the other day who was able to provide me with lots of success stories of Ubuntu in education, but I thought maybe I could work with your team directly. | 15:59 |
| desertc | I joined the Edubuntu Advocacy team the other day. | 16:02 |
| dtrask | RichEd...you in here? | 16:02 |
| desertc | Any other recommendations? | 16:02 |
| RichEd | dtrask: i am now :) | 16:10 |
| RichEd | hi desertc ... we'd be glad for you to help | 16:10 |
| RichEd | the best place to start getting involved is to attend one of our edubuntu meetings on wednesdays | 16:11 |
| desertc | Are there email mailing lists or other signups that you would recommend? | 16:11 |
| RichEd | we meet in #ubuntu-meeting : alternating between 12h00 UTC and 20h00 UTC | 16:11 |
| desertc | Okay, I can try to fit in a Wednesday meeting, although I'm busy running a LUG one week a month on the last Wednesday each month. | 16:12 |
| RichEd | mailing lists are at: lists.ubuntu.com | 16:12 |
| RichEd | what time zone are you in ? | 16:12 |
| desertc | Central/US | 16:12 |
| RichEd | so the alternating time is to accomodate the global spread of people ... you can attend when you are awake and have free time | 16:13 |
| desertc | Sounds good. I've marked it on my calender. | 16:14 |
| RichEd | unfortunately the fridge schedule is a bit out of sorts at the moment, but event times are usually found here: | 16:14 |
| RichEd | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | 16:14 |
| desertc | So next week will be at 12h or 20h ? | 16:15 |
| RichEd | this past week was the 12h00 UTC one ... next week is 20h00 UTC | 16:15 |
| RichEd | mail lists: | 16:15 |
| RichEd | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | 16:15 |
| RichEd | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users | 16:15 |
| RichEd | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-education | 16:15 |
| RichEd | you can find most of the info above at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users | 16:16 |
| RichEd | oops .... | 16:16 |
| RichEd | you can find most of the info above at: http://www.edubuntu.org/Community | 16:16 |
| dtrask | Hey RichEd! | 16:16 |
| dtrask | u see my email? | 16:16 |
| desertc | Thanks for your help, RichEd. | 16:16 |
| RichEd | b.t.w I am the education programme manager for canonical | 16:16 |
| RichEd | and ogra is the lead developer for education also a canonical employee | 16:17 |
| RichEd | the rest of the people here are volunteers / users etc. | 16:17 |
| RichEd | i'd suggest you also chat to dtrask ... he is also stateside | 16:17 |
| dtrask | yep I am | 16:17 |
| RichEd | he is an edubuntu legend for inspiration and enthusiasm | 16:17 |
| RichEd | :) | 16:18 |
| dtrask | desertc: where are you? | 16:18 |
| * dtrask head swells and pops | 16:18 | |
| dtrask | ;-) | 16:18 |
| * RichEd can hear the ping sound all the way from South Africa | 16:18 | |
| desertc | Nashville, Tennessee. We just had a Technology and Education conference here. | 16:18 |
| dtrask | I'm in class while my students are diligently typing away in KTouch | 16:19 |
| dtrask | cool | 16:19 |
| dtrask | I'm in Maine | 16:19 |
| RichEd | desertc: pop me an email at richard@ubuntu.com | 16:19 |
| dtrask | land of Linux | 16:19 |
| RichEd | or join the lists and send out a hi and an intro | 16:19 |
| desertc | I took the time to go there and talk with a number of educators and facilitators, but I did not have much material to bring with me. Felt a bit unprepared. | 16:19 |
| * dtrask seriously thinks we should change our state slogan | 16:19 | |
| RichEd | dtrask: what is the slogan at present / | 16:20 |
| dtrask | RichEd: you get my email about details on visiting our school? | 16:20 |
| dtrask | RichEd: "Vacationland" | 16:20 |
| RichEd | dtrask: when was it sent ? | 16:20 |
| dtrask | RichEd: right after your last one to me...and I resent this a.m. | 16:21 |
| RichEd | dtrask: could be worse :) but does not give you due credit for any hard work does it ? | 16:21 |
| RichEd | your response to my idea about roping in the kids ? | 16:21 |
| dtrask | RichEd: LOL! | 16:21 |
| dtrask | RichEd: yes | 16:21 |
| RichEd | and was it a real mail or a facebook one ? | 16:21 |
| RichEd | dtrask: got it and already read it the other day right after you responded | 16:22 |
| dtrask | RichEd: real....and some details about travelling here and all | 16:22 |
| dtrask | RichEd: oh...OK....thoughts? | 16:22 |
| RichEd | we can set up an informal spec at UDS to toss around ideas and a formal management / mentor framework | 16:22 |
| dtrask | RichEd: I'm trying to plan some things out here for a potential visit | 16:23 |
| dtrask | RichEd: up to you of course | 16:23 |
| RichEd | i'd suggest that the people who are keen to visit hire a car, and pop in for the day ? | 16:23 |
| desertc | RichEd, Also - I have been working on a new project that I thought you might be relevant to have aligned with the Edubuntu teams. Would you like to hear about it? | 16:24 |
| dtrask | RichEd: Sure....anyone have an int'l drivers license? | 16:24 |
| dtrask | RichEd: yes! Tell me! | 16:24 |
| RichEd | yep ... but i have to be out of here in 5 mins ... end of work day, end of week ... gotta function with my wife's work | 16:24 |
| * dtrask waits on edge of seat | 16:24 | |
| RichEd | can you mail me ? | 16:24 |
| desertc | Sure can. | 16:25 |
| RichEd | you can even just chat to dtrask about it, and then just cut & paste the conversation | 16:25 |
| RichEd | and mail that ? | 16:25 |
| ^Migs^ | what's on the Server Classroom Add-On CD? | 16:25 |
| ^Migs^ | is there a list anywhere? | 16:25 |
| dtrask | Actually I'm in the same boat...class ends in 5 mins | 16:25 |
| RichEd | ^Migs^: it's the bulk of the apps you to go onto the server | 16:25 |
| dtrask | mail me at dtrask@vcsvikings.org | 16:26 |
| ^Migs^ | oh wait, never mind | 16:26 |
| ^Migs^ | just found it. Silly me. | 16:26 |
| RichEd | dtrask: not sure about the international driver's licence ... but i am sure we'll have a local who can drive | 16:26 |
| RichEd | desertc: note also re. meetings that we are about to go into UDS and then the company meeting | 16:27 |
| RichEd | so next week there is an edubuntu meeting and then prolly a break for 2 weeks | 16:27 |
| desertc | Oh, I see. | 16:27 |
| RichEd | see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Boston | 16:27 |
| desertc | Well, catch up with you all when you get back. I'll be interested in what you think of my team idea, that I'm sending by email. | 16:28 |
| RichEd | most of the key folk will be there and tied up | 16:28 |
| RichEd | will check it out ... try to make the meeting next week if you can | 16:28 |
| RichEd | pop in here 15 mins before the time ... and then we announce the meeting and channel | 16:28 |
| RichEd | dtrask: can you guess what earthshattering event happens tomorrow that has me very excited ? | 16:29 |
| dtrask | World Cup? | 16:30 |
| RichEd | the rugby world cup final ... South Africa (that's me) vs England ... | 16:30 |
| RichEd | right i am wrapping up and will be off ... | 16:33 |
| RichEd | have a good friday (not in the nail people to a tree way) and a great weekend | 16:33 |
| ^Migs^ | is LTSP on regular Ubuntu, or is that just Edubuntu? | 16:35 |
| RichEd | ^Migs^: bundled on the edubuntu CD and easy install | 16:36 |
| RichEd | but in reality it's a package that can be pulled down and installed into any *buntu | 16:36 |
| ^Migs^ | well, ok | 16:36 |
| ^Migs^ | you're right, thanks | 16:37 |
| ^Migs^ | I know Edubuntu at least has the GUI Thin Client Manager and all | 16:37 |
| ^Migs^ | why LTSP and not K12LTSP? | 16:37 |
| RichEd | 'cause k12ltsp is a fedor implementation | 16:38 |
| RichEd | fedora | 16:38 |
| ^Migs^ | ah, okay | 16:38 |
| RichEd | LTSP is the generic | 16:38 |
| ^Migs^ | didn't realize that | 16:38 |
| RichEd | you can find the creators in #ltsp | 16:38 |
| ^Migs^ | thx | 16:38 |
| RichEd | *buntu is in sunc with the latest ltsp ... thanks to sbalneav and ogra | 16:38 |
| RichEd | *sync | 16:38 |
| RichEd | the other main man is jammyq .... but he does not lurk in this channel ... just the #ltsp one | 16:39 |
| * RichEd disappears in a tear in the fabric of reality | 16:39 | |
| dtrask | RichEd: Enjoy the game! If Boston wins the next 2 games...we'll be in the grips of the World Series during UDS | 16:39 |
| RichEd | great ... someting to watch while we quaff in the bar(s) | 16:40 |
| dtrask | RichEd: Amen....world famous bar just outside the ballpark called the Cask 'n Flagon | 16:40 |
| dtrask | RichEd: Ever see the TV show Cheers? | 16:41 |
| dtrask | RichEd: set in Boston...there's a bar that it's modeled after | 16:41 |
| dtrask | RichEd: Well...it's time for lunch here in the EDT time zone...so I'm off....catch you later. have fun with the World Cup match! :-) | 16:42 |
| desertc | I could use some one page product slicks to give to people about Edubutu | 17:04 |
| ^Migs^ | has anyone come across any FOSS anti plagiarism software? | 18:07 |
| ^Migs^ | similar to TurnItIn? | 18:07 |
| bluekuja | heya highvoltage | 19:31 |
| LaserJock_ | hi bluekuja | 19:31 |
| bluekuja | heya LaserJock_ :) | 19:31 |
| bluekuja | how are you jordan? | 19:31 |
| LaserJock_ | pretty good | 19:31 |
| LaserJock_ | I'm at my grandfather's house with my parents | 19:32 |
| LaserJock_ | and I got a new Ruby book | 19:32 |
| bluekuja | oh :D | 19:32 |
| highvoltage | hey bluekuja and Laserz | 19:32 |
| bluekuja | are you a Ruby fanatic? | 19:32 |
| bluekuja | highvoltage, heya jon :) | 19:32 |
| bluekuja | highvoltage, I've just updated italian website gutsy links and I was wondering about the localised translation of edubuntu website...any news for it? | 19:33 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja: I've never done anything in ruby | 19:34 |
| LaserJock_ | I'm just looking into it | 19:34 |
| bluekuja | great, so you gonna start a new language | 19:34 |
| LaserJock_ | I was at the book store yesterday and there were pretty much more Ruby books than any other language | 19:34 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock_: I promised myself to get a python book, but I alwais forget to buy one :/ | 19:35 |
| LaserJock_ | I bought the Python Cookbook | 19:35 |
| LaserJock_ | it's ok | 19:35 |
| LaserJock_ | I gotta get better at C++ too | 19:35 |
| LaserJock_ | but I can get lots of C++ books at the uni library | 19:35 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock_: which language do you prefer? | 19:35 |
| LaserJock_ | bash ;-) | 19:36 |
| bluekuja | :D | 19:36 |
| LaserJock_ | honestly at this point I'm most productive with Python | 19:36 |
| bluekuja | but yeah, I like bash as well | 19:36 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock_: some news from packaging-guide side? | 19:37 |
| bluekuja | I see no more mails on the ML | 19:37 |
| bluekuja | is it stoned? | 19:37 |
| LaserJock_ | there was a book I almost got that was a "Ruby for sysadmins" book | 19:37 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja: dholbach is working on it in the wiki | 19:37 |
| LaserJock_ | it's moving ahead | 19:37 |
| LaserJock_ | we're gonna get the existing wiki packaging docs merged in | 19:38 |
| highvoltage | bluekuja: I'd actually want to look at that tonight / tomorrow morning | 19:38 |
| LaserJock_ | and then see how to best proceed | 19:38 |
| highvoltage | bluekuja: where's the italian site again? haven't looked at it in a while, would like to see how it has progressed | 19:38 |
| LaserJock_ | highvoltage: is the new theme getting anywhere? | 19:39 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock_: what about permissions? | 19:39 |
| bluekuja | highvoltage, one second and I send you right lin | 19:39 |
| bluekuja | *link | 19:39 |
| bluekuja | :) | 19:39 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: not sure if you were at the meeting the other day, but we discussed it at the last meeting, we had versioning conflicts and the theme looked quite broken | 19:40 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja: what about permissions? | 19:40 |
| LaserJock_ | highvoltage: versioning of what? drupal? | 19:40 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: and it seems that news2000 is busy with a bunch of other stuff (or was at least) | 19:40 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: the theme. we comined parts of his bzr theme, and images he cut out using photoshop, but they don't work together at the moment | 19:41 |
| highvoltage | so he has to do a new cut with that specific theme | 19:41 |
| LaserJock_ | and what about upgrading drupal? | 19:42 |
| highvoltage | I've thought of fixing it with gimp- it might not be exactly how he would want it, but at least it would work | 19:42 |
| highvoltage | drupal can't be upgraded | 19:42 |
| highvoltage | it's the latest version | 19:42 |
| LaserJock_ | really? it looked like 4.7 to me | 19:42 |
| highvoltage | no ways | 19:42 |
| highvoltage | it's been on 5 for ages | 19:42 |
| LaserJock_ | ah, I must not've looked close enough | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | and it's 5.1 since recently | 19:43 |
| LaserJock_ | ok, well that's great | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | I lie | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | 5.3 is out | 19:43 |
| LaserJock_ | how easy is it to get new modules? | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | so it can be upgraded | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | very easy | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | although, I've meant to install the localisation module, and haven't been able to do it in the last 3 weeks | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | at least this week I'm home for a change | 19:43 |
| highvoltage | been out of town the last month | 19:44 |
| highvoltage | (have to go again monday... grrr) | 19:44 |
| LaserJock_ | I was trying to figure out how to import the Handbook into edubuntu.org | 19:44 |
| highvoltage | not that I claim to know anything about docs, but shouldn't that go into help.ubuntu.com? | 19:44 |
| LaserJock_ | and I saw that there was a "import HTML" module | 19:44 |
| LaserJock_ | well, IMO, www.edubuntu.org is underutilized | 19:45 |
| LaserJock_ | and well, help.ubuntu.com tends to be Ubuntu-centered | 19:45 |
| bluekuja_ | sorry, wireless link went down | 19:45 |
| bluekuja_ | highvoltage, received the links I gave you? | 19:45 |
| LaserJock_ | I *could* have mdke put it on there, but I was trying to get creative | 19:45 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock_: what permissions will be set up on the wiki? | 19:47 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja_: none, just normal wiki | 19:47 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock_, I mean I hope not everyone will be able to modify it | 19:47 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock_, normal wiki? | 19:47 |
| LaserJock_ | setting up permissions is not trivial at all | 19:47 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja_: it's just on wiki.ubuntu.com | 19:47 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock_, and on help.u.c? | 19:48 |
| LaserJock_ | hmm? | 19:48 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja_: I'm just saying that the packaging guide has no special permissions | 19:48 |
| bluekuja_ | packaging guide will be deleted from the doc team trunk? | 19:48 |
| LaserJock_ | maybe eventually | 19:48 |
| LaserJock_ | I'm gonna keep it around for a while | 19:48 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock_, yeah, understood the point. I was just a little bit confused about everyone able to modify a document like that | 19:49 |
| LaserJock_ | why not? | 19:49 |
| bluekuja_ | highvoltage, disappeared? | 19:49 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock_, small example | 19:49 |
| bluekuja_ | a contributor decides to add something to the doc | 19:50 |
| LaserJock_ | *every* other doc is on the wiki. Our policies, which are more important than the packaging guide, are on the wiki | 19:50 |
| bluekuja_ | mess up the informations he adds there | 19:50 |
| LaserJock_ | it can't be any worse than what's already on the wiki | 19:50 |
| LaserJock_ | well, yes, probably some people will mess some things up along the way | 19:51 |
| LaserJock_ | but if we have lots of eyes watching it it'll be easy to revert | 19:51 |
| highvoltage | sorry, friend just phoned me | 19:51 |
| bluekuja_ | ok, that was the point | 19:51 |
| bluekuja_ | and anyway yes, a lot of ppl will take care of it | 19:51 |
| bluekuja_ | so I guess there wont be errors | 19:51 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: yes! edubuntu.org is underused. | 19:51 |
| LaserJock_ | I realize the concern | 19:52 |
| bluekuja_ | highvoltage, received my link? | 19:52 |
| highvoltage | bluekuja_: just received it, thanks | 19:52 |
| bluekuja_ | grea | 19:52 |
| LaserJock_ | but we haven't had problems with our Policy docs, so I don't know why we should be any more concerned about the packaging guide | 19:52 |
| bluekuja_ | highvoltage, you can browse all sections from there | 19:52 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock_, yeah, you're right on this | 19:52 |
| LaserJock_ | highvoltage: I'm hoping we can freshen up edubuntu.org | 19:52 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: we've had some bursts where people have joined and meant to do a lot... and then they just dissapeared | 19:53 |
| LaserJock_ | the ubuntu.com site just rocks | 19:53 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: yeah, ubuntu.com is quite nice | 19:53 |
| LaserJock_ | yep | 19:53 |
| LaserJock_ | we need a realistic plan | 19:53 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock_, please keep me updated on that. e.g when a first draft will be up and running on the wiki | 19:53 |
| LaserJock_ | and just buckle down and start small and keep working | 19:53 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: I'm just quite weary of long planning sessions and planning around the website, and then the people who wanted all the bells and whistles dissapearing | 19:54 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: I'd rather do lots of incremental improvements | 19:54 |
| highvoltage | well, yes, what you just said :) | 19:54 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide | 19:54 |
| highvoltage | these big fancy plans all flop, I don't like them | 19:54 |
| LaserJock_ | highvoltage: yes, that's exactly my point | 19:54 |
| LaserJock_ | highvoltage: we need *some* goal or plan in mind, but it *has* to be realistic and it needs to have small steps | 19:55 |
| highvoltage | *nod* | 19:55 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: *hug* :) | 19:55 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: I think we should also just-do-things, without thinking of toes we might step on, if someone has a problem with something, we can fix it again afterwards | 19:56 |
| bluekuja_ | LaserJock, thanks, how far we are from ending it up? | 19:56 |
| highvoltage | bluekuja_: the window that lit up that I thought was you, wasn't :) | 19:56 |
| highvoltage | bluekuja_: where did you send those links? by email? | 19:57 |
| bluekuja_ | highvoltage, nope, here | 19:57 |
| bluekuja_ | but I lagged out too early | 19:57 |
| bluekuja_ | I guess | 19:57 |
| highvoltage | bluekuja_: ah | 19:57 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock_: if I'd have to prioritise web tasks, it would be (not in a specific order, but just things that are currently important) | 19:57 |
| highvoltage | 1. Update/remove obsolete content | 19:58 |
| highvoltage | 2. give the site a bit of a facelift | 19:58 |
| highvoltage | 3. get some more useful information, and links to things like wiki pages and help.ubuntu.com | 19:58 |
| highvoltage | 4. have a better frontpage, one that changes often | 19:59 |
| LaserJock_ | well, that's exactly what I was thinking | 19:59 |
| highvoltage | the user and community ideas that pips1 have are nice, but I don't think we're big enough at this stage for that, and that can wait for now, imho | 19:59 |
| LaserJock_ | so maybe we can create just a simple "web site todo" page | 20:00 |
| LaserJock_ | and as we can we can work on things | 20:00 |
| LaserJock_ | I totally agree with you about the "just do it" thing | 20:00 |
| LaserJock_ | it's easy to fix stuff | 20:00 |
| LaserJock_ | as long as people are just deleting content | 20:00 |
| LaserJock_ | overall Edubuntu tends to suffer from over-engineering when it comes to documentation or community stuff | 20:01 |
| highvoltage | heh, yes | 20:02 |
| highvoltage | yes, a wiki page with bite-sized tasks would be good | 20:02 |
| LaserJock_ | ok, today I'll start that, if that's ok with you | 20:02 |
| highvoltage | I'm more than ok with that! | 20:03 |
| LaserJock_ | just throw down some ideas | 20:03 |
| LaserJock_ | and we can all edit them, etc. | 20:03 |
| LaserJock_ | but I agree with your list above | 20:03 |
| highvoltage | I've been a bit unhappy about the site for a while, and I've been feeling a bit driven under by the over-engineering stuff. | 20:03 |
| highvoltage | but I'm quite happy that you agree with me, and it gives me some new motivation :) | 20:04 |
| highvoltage | however, some friends are expecting me at a party- I need to run for now | 20:04 |
| LaserJock_ | ok, well I gotta go for a little bit | 20:04 |
| LaserJock_ | heh | 20:04 |
| LaserJock_ | it's lunch time here | 20:04 |
| highvoltage | I'll look at some things tomorrow morning, can you post me a link to such a wiki page if you create it? | 20:04 |
| highvoltage | I'll get it in my away log | 20:04 |
| LaserJock_ | yep, will do | 20:04 |
| LaserJock_ | I might email edubuntu-devel actually | 20:05 |
| highvoltage | bluekuja_: don't forget to send me those links either | 20:05 |
| highvoltage | ok, great | 20:05 |
| LaserJock_ | just to make sure pips1 and everybody else knows | 20:05 |
| LaserJock_ | and we can start some discussion there as well | 20:05 |
| LaserJock_ | highvoltage: alrighty, I'm pumped | 20:05 |
| LaserJock_ | let's make it happen ;-) | 20:05 |
| highvoltage | yay! :) | 20:06 |
| bluekuja | back again, something is going wrong on my nm | 20:13 |
| bluekuja | highvoltage, looked at that website? how does it look? | 20:14 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja: he had to go | 20:28 |
| bluekuja | ok then, I'll ping him tomorrow when he gets up :) | 20:28 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock, thanks :) | 20:29 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock, where does ubuntu splash image is stored? | 20:31 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock_: cannot find it in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash | 20:31 |
| LaserJock_ | bluekuja: the boot splash? | 20:32 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock_: splash image, when nautilus, np applet loads up | 20:32 |
| bluekuja | before having your desktop | 20:32 |
| LaserJock_ | ah, gnome splash | 20:32 |
| bluekuja | yup | 20:33 |
| LaserJock_ | I actually don't know/remember | 20:33 |
| bluekuja | ok, I'm currently searching it for a friend | 20:33 |
| yotux | any one offer some help with PXE booting? | 20:34 |
| stgraber | bluekuja: /usr/share/pixmaps/ IIRC | 20:46 |
| bluekuja | stgraber, seems it has been removed in gutsy | 20:46 |
| stgraber | yes | 20:46 |
| LaserJock_ | could be | 20:47 |
| bluekuja | stgraber, for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/137118 | 20:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 137118 in gnome-session "Gnome splash screen and sound disabled in Gutsy (dup-of: 129029)" [Low,Invalid] | 20:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 129029 in libgnome "[Gutsy Tribe-5] No Sound on Login Screen or during Login" [High,Fix released] | 20:47 |
| bluekuja | stgraber, that's why I cannot find it inside /usr/share/pixmaps/splash | 20:47 |
| LaserJock_ | I know the removed the boot splash, I didn't know they removed the pixmaps | 20:47 |
| bluekuja | same here | 20:48 |
| bluekuja | that's why I was searching it around | 20:48 |
| LaserJock_ | heh, I like it without it | 20:48 |
| bluekuja | :D | 20:48 |
| bluekuja | it's the same for me, but a friend was a little less disappointed about not having ubuntu splash image | 20:49 |
| bluekuja | on gutsy | 20:49 |
| bluekuja | I take a break for a while | 20:50 |
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