[00:00] <gnomefreak> jeffwheeler: yes
[00:00] <gnomefreak> jeffwheeler: install edubuntu-desktop
[00:01] <jeffwheeler> gnomefreak: okay; I'm not running Ubuntu at the moment, but I was considering edubuntu at school for the LTSP simplicity
[00:02] <gnomefreak> jeffwheeler: edubuntu should be fine to install than it still uses gnome and has most of gnome apps
[00:02] <gnomefreak> not sure if it installs all i havent installed from edubuntu cd in a while
[03:41] <Ziroday> I can't seem to get LTSP to work, do i have to set some sort of default ip addresses or something?
[03:45] <Ziroday> anyone?
[03:46] <Burgundavia> Ziroday: how is it not working?
[03:48] <Ziroday> when booting the client i get a "media check failed" error
[03:48] <Ziroday> however i was using the same cable, and ports before and it was woeking fine
[03:48] <Ziroday> s/woeking/working
[03:50] <Burgundavia> you certain you are booting to the network and not a cd or harddrive?
[03:50] <Ziroday> Yes
[03:50] <Ziroday> network is first in boot list
[03:50] <Ziroday> i mean order
[03:51] <Ziroday> there is also no lights on the ethernet port?, is that normal
[03:55] <Ziroday> Burgundavia: ?
[03:59] <Burgundavia> Ziroday: no lights means no connect
[04:00] <Burgundavia> connection, rather
[04:00] <Burgundavia> try a different cable
[04:02] <Ziroday> Need help with LTSP on my client keeps saying Media check failed
[04:03] <Burgundavia> Ziroday: hey, did you try a different cable?
[04:04] <Ziroday> trying that now
[04:05] <Ziroday> well now it says no boot offers were recieved
[04:05] <Ziroday> :(
[04:05] <Burgundavia> hmm
[04:06] <Burgundavia> is there a green light on the NIC on the client?
[04:06] <Burgundavia> is there a green light on the NIC on the client?
[04:06] <Ziroday> yea
[04:06] <Burgundavia> what about the server?
[04:07] <Ziroday> same
[04:07] <Burgundavia> have you ever booted a client off this server befgore?\
[04:07] <Ziroday> yes
[04:07] <Burgundavia> do you have a booted client on it right now?
[04:07] <Ziroday> should the ip static or dhcp?
[04:07] <Ziroday> not booted but waiting
[04:07] <Burgundavia> the NIC on the server connected to the clients should be static
[04:07] <Ziroday> has PXE
[04:08] <Burgundavia> the client should be dhcp
[04:08] <Ziroday> What should the IP adresses of the server be?
[04:08] <Burgundavia> whatever you want
[04:08] <Ziroday> ok
[04:09] <Burgundavia> you need the dhcp lease range in the same subnet as the server
[04:09] <Burgundavia> but if you have successfully booted something off this server before
[04:09] <Ziroday> ok
[04:09] <Burgundavia> what has changed?
[04:09] <Ziroday> It broke on a plane
[04:09] <Burgundavia> is this a new client or a new network?
[04:09] <Burgundavia> what broke?
[04:09] <Ziroday> new client, new network and the Raid
[04:10] <Ziroday> we fixed the raid already
[04:10] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:10] <Burgundavia> do you have a crossover cable or a laptop
[04:10] <Burgundavia> ?
[04:10] <Ziroday> crossover cable?
[04:11] <Ziroday> no its just a direct linik currently from the server to the client
[04:11] <Burgundavia> ahh
[04:11] <Burgundavia> for that you need a crossover cable
[04:11] <Burgundavia> did you buy this cable?
[04:12] <Ziroday> no but its working fine before with a ethernet cable and a switch
[04:12] <Burgundavia> right
[04:12] <Burgundavia> in order to connect two computers together, you need a special cable
[04:12] <Burgundavia> where the in goes to the out and the out to the in, basically
[04:12] <Burgundavia> if you don't have one of those, you are going to need a switch
[04:13] <Ziroday> If I put it though a switch to i still need the cable?
[04:13] <Ziroday> ah right soory
[04:13] <Ziroday> *sorry
[04:13] <Ziroday> okay I'll wire it through the switch now
[04:13] <Burgundavia> rocking, that should get you up and running
[04:13] <Ziroday> ok
[04:13] <Ziroday> ill try it brb
[04:15] <Ziroday> nope
[04:16] <Ziroday> same error "No DHCP or BOOTP recieved"
[04:17] <Ziroday> :(
[04:18] <Ziroday> grr internet keeps dropping
[04:18] <Ziroday> sorry Burgundivia
[07:08] <Meshezabeel> any known problems with new 7.10?
[07:09] <kgoetz> es, see the release note :)
[07:09] <kgoetz> *notes
[07:12] <Meshezabeel> tx kgoetz
[11:39] <dawkirst> hi. if I would like to install some educational applications from the CD (i.e., without an active internet connection), how can I go about doing this?
[11:46] <ogra> use the addon CD
[11:48] <dawkirst> ogra, could you please explain that?
[11:48] <ogra> the edu apps are on the addon CD ... http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/gutsy/
[11:49] <ogra> if oyu pop that into an installed edubuntu system it will offer you to install edu apps
[11:49] <dawkirst> thabks
[15:10] <sbalneav> Morning all
[15:35] <bddebian> Heya
[15:48] <desertc> Hello -- How do I join the team efforts?
[15:55] <sbalneav> Well!  You've come to the right place.
[15:55] <sbalneav> What would you like to/can do?
[15:58] <desertc> I am a bit of a meet and greet kind of guy, and I have been talking with a good number of educators lately.  I realized I was recreating a lot of efforts of the Edubuntu team.
[15:59] <desertc> I was chatting with someone in #ubuntu-marketing the other day who was able to provide me with lots of success stories of Ubuntu in education, but I thought maybe I could work with your team directly.
[16:02] <desertc> I joined the Edubuntu Advocacy team the other day.
[16:02] <dtrask> RichEd...you in here?
[16:02] <desertc> Any other recommendations?
[16:10] <RichEd> dtrask: i am now :)
[16:10] <RichEd> hi desertc ... we'd be glad for you to help
[16:11] <RichEd> the best place to start getting involved is to attend one of our edubuntu meetings on wednesdays
[16:11] <desertc> Are there email mailing lists or other signups that you would recommend?
[16:11] <RichEd> we meet in #ubuntu-meeting : alternating between 12h00 UTC and 20h00 UTC
[16:12] <desertc> Okay, I can try to fit in a Wednesday meeting, although I'm busy running a LUG one week a month on the last Wednesday each month.
[16:12] <RichEd> mailing lists are at: lists.ubuntu.com
[16:12] <RichEd> what time zone are you in ?
[16:12] <desertc> Central/US
[16:13] <RichEd> so the alternating time is to accomodate the global spread of people ... you can attend when you are awake and have free time
[16:14] <desertc> Sounds good.   I've marked it on my calender.
[16:14] <RichEd> unfortunately the fridge schedule is a bit out of sorts at the moment, but event times are usually found here:
[16:14] <RichEd> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event
[16:15] <desertc> So next week will be at 12h or 20h ?
[16:15] <RichEd> this past week was the 12h00 UTC one ... next week is 20h00 UTC
[16:15] <RichEd> mail lists:
[16:15] <RichEd> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel
[16:15] <RichEd> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
[16:15] <RichEd> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-education
[16:16] <RichEd> you can find most of the info above at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
[16:16] <RichEd> oops ....
[16:16] <RichEd> you can find most of the info above at: http://www.edubuntu.org/Community
[16:16] <dtrask> Hey RichEd!
[16:16] <dtrask> u see my email?
[16:16] <desertc> Thanks for your help, RichEd.
[16:16] <RichEd> b.t.w I am the education programme manager for canonical
[16:17] <RichEd> and ogra is the lead developer for education also a canonical employee
[16:17] <RichEd> the rest of the people here are volunteers / users etc.
[16:17] <RichEd> i'd suggest you also chat to dtrask ... he is also stateside
[16:17] <dtrask> yep I am
[16:17] <RichEd> he is an edubuntu legend for inspiration and enthusiasm
[16:18] <RichEd> :)
[16:18] <dtrask> desertc: where are you?
[16:18]  * dtrask head swells and pops
[16:18] <dtrask> ;-)
[16:18]  * RichEd can hear the ping sound all the way from South Africa
[16:18] <desertc> Nashville, Tennessee.  We just had a Technology and Education conference here.
[16:19] <dtrask> I'm in class while my students are diligently typing away in KTouch
[16:19] <dtrask> cool
[16:19] <dtrask> I'm in Maine
[16:19] <RichEd> desertc: pop me an email at richard@ubuntu.com
[16:19] <dtrask> land of Linux
[16:19] <RichEd> or join the lists and send out a hi and an intro
[16:19] <desertc> I took the time to go there and talk with a number of educators and facilitators, but I did not have much material to bring with me.  Felt a bit unprepared.
[16:19]  * dtrask seriously thinks we should change our state slogan
[16:20] <RichEd> dtrask: what is the slogan at present /
[16:20] <dtrask> RichEd: you get my email about details on visiting our school?
[16:20] <dtrask> RichEd: "Vacationland"
[16:20] <RichEd> dtrask: when was it sent ?
[16:21] <dtrask> RichEd: right after your last one to me...and I resent this a.m.
[16:21] <RichEd> dtrask: could be worse :) but does not give you due credit for any hard work does it ?
[16:21] <RichEd> your response to my idea about roping in the kids ?
[16:21] <dtrask> RichEd: LOL!
[16:21] <dtrask> RichEd: yes
[16:21] <RichEd> and was it a real mail or a facebook one ?
[16:22] <RichEd> dtrask: got it and already read it the other day right after you responded
[16:22] <dtrask> RichEd: real....and some details about travelling here and all
[16:22] <dtrask> RichEd: oh...OK....thoughts?
[16:22] <RichEd> we can set up an informal spec at UDS to toss around ideas and a formal management / mentor framework
[16:23] <dtrask> RichEd: I'm trying to plan some things out here for a potential visit
[16:23] <dtrask> RichEd: up to you of course
[16:23] <RichEd> i'd suggest that the people who are keen to visit hire a car, and pop in for the day ?
[16:24] <desertc> RichEd, Also - I have been working on a new project that I thought you might be relevant to have aligned with the Edubuntu teams.  Would you like to hear about it?
[16:24] <dtrask> RichEd: Sure....anyone have an int'l drivers license?
[16:24] <dtrask> RichEd: yes!  Tell me!
[16:24] <RichEd> yep ... but i have to be out of here in 5 mins ... end of work day, end of week ... gotta function with my wife's work
[16:24]  * dtrask waits on edge of seat
[16:24] <RichEd> can you mail me ?
[16:25] <desertc> Sure can.
[16:25] <RichEd> you can even just chat to dtrask about it, and then just cut & paste the conversation
[16:25] <RichEd> and mail that ?
[16:25] <^Migs^> what's on the Server Classroom Add-On CD?
[16:25] <^Migs^> is there a list anywhere?
[16:25] <dtrask> Actually I'm in the same boat...class ends in 5 mins
[16:25] <RichEd> ^Migs^: it's the bulk of the apps you to go onto the server
[16:26] <dtrask> mail me at   dtrask@vcsvikings.org
[16:26] <^Migs^> oh wait, never mind
[16:26] <^Migs^> just found it.  Silly me.
[16:26] <RichEd> dtrask: not sure about the international driver's licence ... but i am sure we'll have a local who can drive
[16:27] <RichEd> desertc: note also re. meetings that we are about to go into UDS and then the company meeting
[16:27] <RichEd> so next week there is an edubuntu meeting and then prolly a break for 2 weeks
[16:27] <desertc> Oh, I see.
[16:27] <RichEd> see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Boston
[16:28] <desertc> Well, catch up with you all when you get back.  I'll be interested in what you think of my team idea, that I'm sending by email.
[16:28] <RichEd> most of the key folk will be there and tied up
[16:28] <RichEd> will check it out ... try to make the meeting next week if you can
[16:28] <RichEd> pop in here 15 mins before the time ... and then we announce the meeting and channel
[16:29] <RichEd> dtrask: can you guess what earthshattering event happens tomorrow that has me very excited ?
[16:30] <dtrask> World Cup?
[16:30] <RichEd> the rugby world cup final ... South Africa (that's me) vs England ...
[16:33] <RichEd> right i am wrapping up and will be off ...
[16:33] <RichEd> have a good friday (not in the nail people to a tree way) and a great weekend
[16:35] <^Migs^> is LTSP on regular Ubuntu, or is that just Edubuntu?
[16:36] <RichEd> ^Migs^: bundled on the edubuntu CD and easy install
[16:36] <RichEd> but in reality it's a package that can be pulled down and installed into any *buntu
[16:36] <^Migs^> well, ok
[16:37] <^Migs^> you're right, thanks
[16:37] <^Migs^> I know Edubuntu at least has the GUI Thin Client Manager and all
[16:37] <^Migs^> why LTSP and not K12LTSP?
[16:38] <RichEd> 'cause k12ltsp is a fedor implementation
[16:38] <RichEd> fedora
[16:38] <^Migs^> ah, okay
[16:38] <RichEd> LTSP is the generic
[16:38] <^Migs^> didn't realize that
[16:38] <RichEd> you can find the creators in #ltsp
[16:38] <^Migs^> thx
[16:38] <RichEd> *buntu is in sunc with the latest ltsp ... thanks to sbalneav and ogra
[16:38] <RichEd> *sync
[16:39] <RichEd> the other main man is jammyq .... but he does not lurk in this channel ... just the #ltsp one
[16:39]  * RichEd disappears in a tear in the fabric of reality
[16:39] <dtrask> RichEd:  Enjoy the game!  If Boston wins the next 2 games...we'll be in the grips of the World Series during UDS
[16:40] <RichEd> great ... someting to watch while we quaff in the bar(s)
[16:40] <dtrask> RichEd: Amen....world famous bar just outside the ballpark called the Cask 'n Flagon
[16:41] <dtrask> RichEd: Ever see the TV show Cheers?
[16:41] <dtrask> RichEd: set in Boston...there's a bar that it's modeled after
[16:42] <dtrask> RichEd: Well...it's time for lunch here in the EDT time zone...so I'm off....catch you later.  have fun with the World Cup match!  :-)
[17:04] <desertc> I could use some one page product slicks to give to people about Edubutu
[18:07] <^Migs^> has anyone come across any FOSS anti plagiarism software?
[18:07] <^Migs^> similar to TurnItIn?
[19:31] <bluekuja> heya highvoltage
[19:31] <LaserJock_> hi bluekuja
[19:31] <bluekuja> heya LaserJock_ :)
[19:31] <bluekuja> how are you jordan?
[19:31] <LaserJock_> pretty good
[19:32] <LaserJock_> I'm at my grandfather's house with my parents
[19:32] <LaserJock_> and I got a new Ruby book
[19:32] <bluekuja> oh :D
[19:32] <highvoltage> hey bluekuja and Laserz
[19:32] <bluekuja> are you a Ruby fanatic?
[19:32] <bluekuja> highvoltage, heya jon :)
[19:33] <bluekuja> highvoltage, I've just updated italian website gutsy links and I was wondering about the localised translation of edubuntu website...any news for it?
[19:34] <LaserJock_> bluekuja: I've never done anything in ruby
[19:34] <LaserJock_> I'm just looking into it
[19:34] <bluekuja> great, so you gonna start a new language
[19:34] <LaserJock_> I was at the book store yesterday and there were pretty much more Ruby books than any other language
[19:35] <bluekuja> LaserJock_: I promised myself to get a python book, but I alwais forget to buy one :/
[19:35] <LaserJock_> I bought the Python Cookbook
[19:35] <LaserJock_> it's ok
[19:35] <LaserJock_> I gotta get better at C++ too
[19:35] <LaserJock_> but I can get lots of C++ books at the uni library
[19:35] <bluekuja> LaserJock_: which language do you prefer?
[19:36] <LaserJock_> bash ;-)
[19:36] <bluekuja> :D
[19:36] <LaserJock_> honestly at this point I'm most productive with Python
[19:36] <bluekuja> but yeah, I like bash as well
[19:37] <bluekuja> LaserJock_: some news from packaging-guide side?
[19:37] <bluekuja> I see no more mails on the ML
[19:37] <bluekuja> is it stoned?
[19:37] <LaserJock_> there was a book I almost got that was a "Ruby for sysadmins" book
[19:37] <LaserJock_> bluekuja: dholbach is working on it in the wiki
[19:37] <LaserJock_> it's moving ahead
[19:38] <LaserJock_> we're gonna get the existing wiki packaging docs merged in
[19:38] <highvoltage> bluekuja: I'd actually want to look at that tonight / tomorrow morning
[19:38] <LaserJock_> and then see how to best proceed
[19:38] <highvoltage> bluekuja: where's the italian site again? haven't looked at it in a while, would like to see how it has progressed
[19:39] <LaserJock_> highvoltage: is the new theme getting anywhere?
[19:39] <bluekuja> LaserJock_: what about permissions?
[19:39] <bluekuja> highvoltage, one second and I send you right lin
[19:39] <bluekuja> *link
[19:39] <bluekuja> :)
[19:40] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: not sure if you were at the meeting the other day, but we discussed it at the last meeting, we had versioning conflicts and the theme looked quite broken
[19:40] <LaserJock_> bluekuja: what about permissions?
[19:40] <LaserJock_> highvoltage: versioning of what? drupal?
[19:40] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: and it seems that news2000 is busy with a bunch of other stuff (or was at least)
[19:41] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: the theme. we comined parts of his bzr theme, and images he cut out using photoshop, but they don't work together at the moment
[19:41] <highvoltage> so he has to do a new cut with that specific theme
[19:42] <LaserJock_> and what about upgrading drupal?
[19:42] <highvoltage> I've thought of fixing it with gimp- it might not be exactly how he would want it, but at least it would work
[19:42] <highvoltage> drupal can't be upgraded
[19:42] <highvoltage> it's the latest version
[19:42] <LaserJock_> really? it looked like 4.7 to me
[19:42] <highvoltage> no ways
[19:42] <highvoltage> it's been on 5 for ages
[19:43] <LaserJock_> ah, I must not've looked close enough
[19:43] <highvoltage> and it's 5.1 since recently
[19:43] <LaserJock_> ok, well that's great
[19:43] <highvoltage> I lie
[19:43] <highvoltage> 5.3 is out
[19:43] <LaserJock_> how easy is it to get new modules?
[19:43] <highvoltage> so it can be upgraded
[19:43] <highvoltage> very easy
[19:43] <highvoltage> although, I've meant to install the localisation module, and haven't been able to do it in the last 3 weeks
[19:43] <highvoltage> at least this week I'm home for a change
[19:44] <highvoltage> been out of town the last month
[19:44] <highvoltage> (have to go again monday... grrr)
[19:44] <LaserJock_> I was trying to figure out how to import the Handbook into edubuntu.org
[19:44] <highvoltage> not that I claim to know anything about docs, but shouldn't that go into help.ubuntu.com?
[19:44] <LaserJock_> and I saw that there was a "import HTML" module
[19:45] <LaserJock_> well, IMO, www.edubuntu.org is underutilized
[19:45] <LaserJock_> and well, help.ubuntu.com tends to be Ubuntu-centered
[19:45] <bluekuja_> sorry, wireless link went down
[19:45] <bluekuja_> highvoltage, received the links I gave you?
[19:45] <LaserJock_> I *could* have mdke put it on there, but I was trying to get creative
[19:47] <bluekuja_> LaserJock_: what permissions will be set up on the wiki?
[19:47] <LaserJock_> bluekuja_: none, just normal wiki
[19:47] <bluekuja_> LaserJock_, I mean I hope not everyone will be able to modify it
[19:47] <bluekuja_> LaserJock_, normal wiki?
[19:47] <LaserJock_> setting up permissions is not trivial at all
[19:47] <LaserJock_> bluekuja_: it's just on wiki.ubuntu.com
[19:48] <bluekuja_> LaserJock_, and on help.u.c?
[19:48] <LaserJock_> hmm?
[19:48] <LaserJock_> bluekuja_: I'm just saying that the packaging guide has no special permissions
[19:48] <bluekuja_> packaging guide will be deleted from the doc team trunk?
[19:48] <LaserJock_> maybe eventually
[19:48] <LaserJock_> I'm gonna keep it around for a while
[19:49] <bluekuja_> LaserJock_, yeah, understood the point. I was just a little bit confused about everyone able to modify a document like that
[19:49] <LaserJock_> why not?
[19:49] <bluekuja_> highvoltage, disappeared?
[19:49] <bluekuja_> LaserJock_, small example
[19:50] <bluekuja_> a contributor decides to add something to the doc
[19:50] <LaserJock_> *every* other doc is on the wiki. Our policies, which are more important than the packaging guide, are on the wiki
[19:50] <bluekuja_> mess up the informations he adds there
[19:50] <LaserJock_> it can't be any worse than what's already on the wiki
[19:51] <LaserJock_> well, yes, probably some people will mess some things up along the way
[19:51] <LaserJock_> but if we have lots of eyes watching it it'll be easy to revert
[19:51] <highvoltage> sorry, friend just phoned me
[19:51] <bluekuja_> ok, that was the point
[19:51] <bluekuja_> and anyway yes, a lot of ppl will take care of it
[19:51] <bluekuja_> so I guess there wont be errors
[19:51] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: yes! edubuntu.org is underused.
[19:52] <LaserJock_> I realize the concern
[19:52] <bluekuja_> highvoltage, received my link?
[19:52] <highvoltage> bluekuja_: just received it, thanks
[19:52] <bluekuja_> grea
[19:52] <LaserJock_> but we haven't had problems with our Policy docs, so I don't know why we should be any more concerned about the packaging guide
[19:52] <bluekuja_> highvoltage, you can browse all sections from there
[19:52] <bluekuja_> LaserJock_, yeah, you're right on this
[19:52] <LaserJock_> highvoltage: I'm hoping we can freshen up edubuntu.org
[19:53] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: we've had some bursts where people have joined and meant to do a lot... and then they just dissapeared
[19:53] <LaserJock_> the ubuntu.com site just rocks
[19:53] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: yeah, ubuntu.com is quite nice
[19:53] <LaserJock_> yep
[19:53] <LaserJock_> we need a realistic plan
[19:53] <bluekuja_> LaserJock_, please keep me updated on that. e.g when a first draft will be up and running on the wiki
[19:53] <LaserJock_> and just buckle down and start small and keep working
[19:54] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: I'm just quite weary of long planning sessions and planning around the website, and then the people who wanted all the bells and whistles dissapearing
[19:54] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: I'd rather do lots of incremental improvements
[19:54] <highvoltage> well, yes, what you just said :)
[19:54] <LaserJock_> bluekuja_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[19:54] <highvoltage> these big fancy plans all flop, I don't like them
[19:54] <LaserJock_> highvoltage: yes, that's exactly my point
[19:55] <LaserJock_> highvoltage: we need *some* goal or plan in mind, but it *has* to be realistic and it needs to have small steps
[19:55] <highvoltage> *nod*
[19:55] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: *hug* :)
[19:56] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: I think we should also just-do-things, without thinking of toes we might step on, if someone has a problem with something, we can fix it again afterwards
[19:56] <bluekuja_> LaserJock, thanks, how far we are from ending it up?
[19:56] <highvoltage> bluekuja_: the window that lit up that I thought was you, wasn't :)
[19:57] <highvoltage> bluekuja_: where did you send those links? by email?
[19:57] <bluekuja_> highvoltage, nope, here
[19:57] <bluekuja_> but I lagged out too early
[19:57] <bluekuja_> I guess
[19:57] <highvoltage> bluekuja_: ah
[19:57] <highvoltage> LaserJock_: if I'd have to prioritise web tasks, it would be (not in a specific order, but just things that are currently important)
[19:58] <highvoltage> 1. Update/remove obsolete content
[19:58] <highvoltage> 2. give the site a bit of a facelift
[19:58] <highvoltage> 3. get some more useful information, and links to things like wiki pages and help.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <highvoltage> 4. have a better frontpage, one that changes often
[19:59] <LaserJock_> well, that's exactly what I was thinking
[19:59] <highvoltage> the user and community ideas that pips1 have are nice, but I don't think we're big enough at this stage for that, and that can wait for now, imho
[20:00] <LaserJock_> so maybe we can create just a simple "web site todo" page
[20:00] <LaserJock_> and as we can we can work on things
[20:00] <LaserJock_> I totally agree with you about the "just do it" thing
[20:00] <LaserJock_> it's easy to fix stuff
[20:00] <LaserJock_> as long as people are just deleting content
[20:01] <LaserJock_> overall Edubuntu tends to suffer from over-engineering when it comes to documentation or community stuff
[20:02] <highvoltage> heh, yes
[20:02] <highvoltage> yes, a wiki page with bite-sized tasks would be good
[20:02] <LaserJock_> ok, today I'll start that, if that's ok with you
[20:03] <highvoltage> I'm more than ok with that!
[20:03] <LaserJock_> just throw down some ideas
[20:03] <LaserJock_> and we can all edit them, etc.
[20:03] <LaserJock_> but I agree with your list above
[20:03] <highvoltage> I've been a bit unhappy about the site for a while, and I've been feeling a bit driven under by the over-engineering stuff.
[20:04] <highvoltage> but I'm quite happy that you agree with me, and it gives me some new motivation :)
[20:04] <highvoltage> however, some friends are expecting me at a party- I need to run for now
[20:04] <LaserJock_> ok, well I gotta go for a little bit
[20:04] <LaserJock_> heh
[20:04] <LaserJock_> it's lunch time here
[20:04] <highvoltage> I'll look at some things tomorrow morning, can you post me a link to such a wiki page if you create it?
[20:04] <highvoltage> I'll get it in my away log
[20:04] <LaserJock_> yep, will do
[20:05] <LaserJock_> I might email edubuntu-devel actually
[20:05] <highvoltage> bluekuja_: don't forget to send me those links either
[20:05] <highvoltage> ok, great
[20:05] <LaserJock_> just to make sure pips1 and everybody else knows
[20:05] <LaserJock_> and we can start some discussion there as well
[20:05] <LaserJock_> highvoltage: alrighty, I'm pumped
[20:05] <LaserJock_> let's make it happen ;-)
[20:06] <highvoltage> yay! :)
[20:13] <bluekuja> back again, something is going wrong on my nm
[20:14] <bluekuja> highvoltage, looked at that website? how does it look?
[20:28] <LaserJock_> bluekuja: he had to go
[20:28] <bluekuja> ok then, I'll ping him tomorrow when he gets up :)
[20:29] <bluekuja> LaserJock, thanks :)
[20:31] <bluekuja> LaserJock, where does ubuntu splash image is stored?
[20:31] <bluekuja> LaserJock_: cannot find it in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[20:32] <LaserJock_> bluekuja: the boot splash?
[20:32] <bluekuja> LaserJock_: splash image, when nautilus, np applet loads up
[20:32] <bluekuja> before having your desktop
[20:32] <LaserJock_> ah, gnome splash
[20:33] <bluekuja> yup
[20:33] <LaserJock_> I actually don't know/remember
[20:33] <bluekuja> ok, I'm currently searching it for a friend
[20:34] <yotux> any one offer some help with PXE booting?
[20:46] <stgraber> bluekuja: /usr/share/pixmaps/ IIRC
[20:46] <bluekuja> stgraber, seems it has been removed in gutsy
[20:46] <stgraber> yes
[20:47] <LaserJock_> could be
[20:47] <bluekuja> stgraber, for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/137118
[20:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 137118 in gnome-session "Gnome splash screen and sound disabled in Gutsy (dup-of: 129029)" [Low,Invalid]
[20:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129029 in libgnome "[Gutsy Tribe-5] No Sound on Login Screen or during Login" [High,Fix released]
[20:47] <bluekuja> stgraber, that's why I cannot find it inside /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[20:47] <LaserJock_> I know the removed the boot splash, I didn't know they removed the pixmaps
[20:48] <bluekuja> same here
[20:48] <bluekuja> that's why I was searching it around
[20:48] <LaserJock_> heh, I like it without it
[20:48] <bluekuja> :D
[20:49] <bluekuja> it's the same for me, but a friend was a little less disappointed about not having ubuntu splash image
[20:49] <bluekuja> on gutsy
[20:50] <bluekuja> I take a break for a while