lassegul | hi folks. | 08:21 |
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troy_s | lassegul: Any work of late? | 09:15 |
lassegul | troy_s: yeah im trying to make some pictures of aurora polaris, I saw it while visiting family and i was amazed by the beauty of it. | 09:31 |
lassegul | troy_s: and how the colours light up the ground as well. its truly amazing. | 09:32 |
lassegul | troy_s: but i havent gotten anything ready to show yet, but i hope I can get there over the weekend. how about you? | 09:33 |
abcde__ | Where can I find a CD Label for Gutsy? | 14:57 |
nothlit`alpha | abcde_: http://sinecera.de/GUTSY_ARTWORK.tar.bz2 | 15:20 |
abcde_ | nothlit`alpha, thanks, I found some artwork I think looks better, and I found the xcf file, but I have to figure out how to change the text box on it that says feisty. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=422357&highlight=xcf | 15:23 |
lassegul | nothlit`alpha: hi. im sorry i havent been online the last couple of days, we have changed the CMTS in our area so ive been offline for the last 3 days. | 15:25 |
nothlit`alpha | lassegul: CMTS? thats fine, theres no gigantic rush | 15:25 |
nothlit`alpha | i fixed up the getinvolved page | 15:26 |
lassegul | cmts is a kind of hub for ISPs that use hybrid coax/fiber lines. GetInvolved is clean and nice. | 15:28 |
SlimG3 | Is there any (plans for) logos representing the ubuntu release codename? like a drake for dapper drake, this would be doable since all the codenames represents animals in different "moods" | 16:45 |
lapo | hi | 17:08 |
jarrod__ | hi | 17:15 |
jarrod__ | i think u guys should stop using brown for your backgrounds as it looks very bad | 17:16 |
SlimG3 | *and they suddenly decided to go for another color* | 17:18 |
SlimG3 | :) | 17:18 |
jarrod__ | i think they should use blue or something | 17:25 |
troy_s | jarrod__: And what is your 'knowledge' based one? | 17:26 |
troy_s | on even | 17:26 |
SlimG3 | but I (and the people I've come across) agree with jarrod__ , I don't understand what made someone, somewhere, think that the color on his dodo actually looks nice, and even convinced mark to use it | 17:26 |
troy_s | SlimG3: The actual colour has NOTHING to do with it. | 17:27 |
troy_s | SlimG3: Brown can be very effective tonal base, the execution of the designs is far from useful. | 17:27 |
SlimG3 | but there still seems to me like there's a shared opinion amongst ubuntoids that the color _looks_ bad (Ps. I dunno what "tonal base" is) | 17:30 |
troy_s | SlimG3: You would be making complete random speculation based on uneducated guessing. | 17:30 |
troy_s | SlimG3: There are many that think that brown can work, and many that hate it. | 17:31 |
jarrod__ | i dont know what tonal base is either | 17:31 |
troy_s | In the end, people who would suggest a blue are at least as out to lunch as suggesting a monochrome brown. | 17:32 |
SlimG3 | troy_s: That might be true and it might be false, I for myself haven't encountered anyone in my social network that has a positive or neutral attitude towards the default color of Ubuntu, but then again, I'm not hanging out woth the entire Ubuntu society (and I guess neither are you :)) | 17:33 |
SlimG3 | Would be interesting to see the result of a major vote on the subject | 17:34 |
jarrod__ | ya | 17:34 |
troy_s | SlimG3: It is garbage execution. Nothing more or nothing less. | 17:34 |
troy_s | SlimG3: Any poorly executed attempt can make just about anything look like dribble. | 17:34 |
troy_s | SlimG3: And that would be exactly my point -- without a focus group and a proper poll, everyone is just talking from completely guessed vantages. | 17:35 |
troy_s | SlimG3: In the end, I would be one of the people who would firmly agree that Brown with a rounded out palette could be at least as successful as say "Starbucks" design presentation or a high end interior design. | 17:36 |
troy_s | SlimG3: It is a far far cry from that, however. | 17:36 |
SlimG3 | troy_s: you mean the color is ok but the design ruins the total impression? | 17:36 |
troy_s | SlimG3: The colour alone is _not_ "ok", but alas, this has been rehashed a thousand times. | 17:37 |
SlimG3 | mkay, I see your point | 17:38 |
troy_s | SlimG3: Poor execution will inevitably lead to complaints about colour. | 17:39 |
troy_s | SlimG3: We can change colours a thousand times and if it is poorly executed, it will still be rather useless and underwhelming. | 17:39 |
troy_s | Again though, suggesting that 'brown' is the 'problem' is at least as ineffective and completely inaccurate as the implementation of it in Ubuntu. | 17:40 |
SlimG3 | troy_s: Thanks for taking the time to explain. What you're saying makes sense to me so I'm ditching my color-complaint | 17:44 |
jarrod__ | but i guess brown has always been the color so i guess changing it would be like a whole new os | 17:44 |
troy_s | jarrod__: Indeed. Worse -- at the very least the poorly underwhelming brown is distinct compared to the landscape of curley curvey blue garbage. | 17:45 |
jarrod__ | ya | 17:45 |
troy_s | (Not that I am a fan of a 1995 trend to put curvey curley swoopy in) | 17:45 |
troy_s | Just take a look at the equally bland and banal Fedora and Novell work. | 17:45 |
troy_s | It is _extremely_ unfortunate that Diana Fong left the Red Hat team -- her work was at least moving in a far superior pattern to where the rubbish was going. | 17:46 |
jarrod__ | im gonna go now | 17:48 |
nothlit | troy_s: can you throw me a popular example of a work or image using brown? i want to see if i can get in a factoid | 18:11 |
troy_s | nothlit: Look at Starbucks 'burr' grinder from a few years ago -- it was a wonderful presentation. It was stretched across all of their espresso machines too -- with different base tones for each. | 18:13 |
troy_s | nothlit: I had a list somewhere... let me go look in a few... | 18:14 |
nothlit`alpha | anything other than starbucks? | 18:14 |
troy_s | nothlit: Yes. | 18:17 |
troy_s | nothlit: (of course) | 18:17 |
troy_s | nothlit: You could do a very quick reference to the victorian grunge trend in a good percentage of 18-20 somethings wardrobe | 18:18 |
nothlit`alpha | lol, just asking if you have an example i can include | 18:18 |
troy_s | yeah ... but i need to find actual links to products | 18:18 |
troy_s | the brown in the victorian is almost always the palette blue that goes with it... | 18:18 |
nothlit`alpha | np, if you can that would be great | 18:19 |
nothlit`alpha | maybe we should whip up a whole treatise on brown for the wiki | 18:20 |
troy_s | nothlit: This guy is brilliant | 18:20 |
troy_s | http://www.rgbstudio.co.uk/ | 18:20 |
troy_s | and he is very very very contemporary -- 2nd example shows you brown | 18:21 |
troy_s | nothlit: "highscore with moulton" shoe campaign is another one with the brown | 18:21 |
troy_s | although more teal base | 18:21 |
nothlit | , !brown is <reply> Any colour can be effectively used as a base, it is merely execution. Brown is the colour of the earth, coffee, caramel, and chocolate. It is a characteristic of conte drawings and found very commonly in (raw umber) underpaintings. An example of brown being used very succesfully is Starbucks. | 18:22 |
nothlit | this is what i have atm | 18:22 |
nothlit | raw umber is such a yummy pigment | 18:23 |
troy_s | nothlit: Link? | 18:24 |
troy_s | oh the pigment | 18:24 |
troy_s | great title for a project too... lol... raw umber. | 18:24 |
nothlit | oh, should we just use workforfood? he has some brown stuff | 18:25 |
troy_s | well there are a good number out there now -- that victorian grunge look on clothes is rather massive right now | 18:26 |
troy_s | brown pullovers with various palette elements such as the light sky blue with embroidered stitching and or faux gold leaf | 18:26 |
troy_s | actually, nothlit i forgot to mention that it is quite huge right now in snowboarding circles. a friend of mine is a world class snowboarder who is sponsored by helly hansen to evaluate the designs -- it is quite all over that scene right now as well. | 18:31 |
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