[00:13] it's quiet in here today. is that the gutsy's effect ? :) [00:15] yeah [00:15] * gnomefreak working on a win pc thats not mine today [00:15] panda antivirus installed a trojan, kind of ironic [00:16] * gnomefreak scared to remove it and ##windows channel fucking sucks [00:17] gnomefreak: please don't get infected [00:18] im not [00:19] why again do you have to use windows for so long? [00:25] asac: im on gutsy atm with win pc next to me fixing it for a friend [00:25] asac: it brings in money ;) [00:27] hehe [00:27] what is broken? [00:27] see above panada antivirus installed a trojan in its W32dir [00:27] w32 dir. [00:29] thats the "only" thing you are supposed to fix? [00:29] asac: yes and its easy but im not sure if panda will work without that dll [00:30] about to find out though [00:30] well if it infects a dll then you don't want to use that scanner at all [00:31] if its just detected as a trojan by some other tool but it actually isn't ... then its a false positive and not a problem [00:32] given the fact that the release is out for a good time ... the network-manager bugcount has stayed stable at 190 [00:33] gutsy's forum is full of it [00:33] well, not anymore as it's closed [00:34] Ubulette: so the posts have been deleted? [00:34] hm, no, threads are still there but closed [00:34] show me a few that came after the release please [00:35] hmm, i've updated my bookmarks and rss feeds to hardy [00:36] so where do all these complains end up now? [00:36] asac: thats what bothers me everything i read is confliting one says FP other says its real BUT panda has said to have fixed this already [00:36] asac, good question [00:37] i somehow don't understand how forums are categorized [00:37] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=238 [00:37] they will either be reopened or moved or new thread [00:37] if you want i can find out [00:37] * gnomefreak knows forum mods [00:38] Ubulette: i don't see any network-manager threads on top [00:39] "Wireless stopped working after today's update" ? [00:39] i'm not reading those [00:39] Problem resolved. It turns out the wireless adapter hardware was somehow disabled. In WinXP, I can use Fn+F2 to disable my wireless card but I've never been able to do it in Ubuntu -- including now -- which is why it was the last thing I checked. [00:39] is it not working or is it the servers being hit too hard (why does he feel it isnt working [00:39] ok so a rfkill switch issue maybe [00:40] maybe its that it now works and he didn't expect it to work :) [00:41] and previously it was always on [00:41] i would really like to be able to just close all bugs like they closed all threads in gutsy forum :) [00:41] if you need one opened click REPORT above first post of thread [00:42] and ask it to be moved and it will be moved and reopened. if needed fast if im here let me know and ill have it moved than [00:42] gnomefreak: yeah [00:42] i don't want to :) [00:42] lol [00:42] i even would like to follow their practice and close all bugs [00:44] would be nice [00:44] we close edgy soon :) [00:44] april 08 maybe [00:44] holy shit [00:44] alot of n-m bugs [00:45] you are maybe half of them [00:51] me? [00:51] you mean lots of nm bugmail, right? [00:53] yes [00:53] >24 hours [00:54] asac: bug 153753 seems weird is this something that changed in firefox or flash? [00:54] oh yeah bot died [00:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153753 [00:56] gnomefreak: he definitly has flash 7 somewhere [00:56] maybe in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ [00:56] if not in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins nor ~/.mozilla/plugins/ [00:56] thats what i thought too but had to find out. care to tell him so i can go to bed? [00:57] im gonn ashut it down to get gutsy(other partition) up and running as it has nothing installed since it was a basic feisty until today [01:23] hello I need a confirmation [01:24] in my latest up date to 64 bit system it is saying that fire fox is not accessable [01:24] any one els running 64 bit that can verify? [01:31] any one in here [01:31] please respond [01:32] lee986321, it should work [01:33] has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source [01:33] which version ? [01:33] Iam currently running Kubuntu 64 bit, I just recently esud the cd fro freshinstall adn half the stuff greyed out [01:33] firefox 2.0.0.x is supported [01:34] then wahts going on? how come I can't down load it [01:34] I used [01:34] sudo apt-get install firefox [01:35] what does this show: apt-cache policy firefox [01:35] getting the data [01:37] Installed: (none)Candidate: (none)Candidate: (none) version table is blank [01:37] hmm [01:37] what does apt-get install said ? [01:37] I don't want to get introuble for flooding [01:37] but [01:37] paste into a pastebin [01:37] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [01:38] oh [01:38] Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package. [01:38] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [01:38] is only available from another source [01:38] most probably the lock [01:38] E: Package firefox has no installation candidate [01:38] lee986321: use synaptic ... ensure that there are actually valid update source confirmed ... update the software index ...and things should work [01:38] waht is a "lock"? [01:39] lee986321: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox :) [01:39] a file preventing you to use 2 apt-get/synaptic/whatever at the same time [01:39] if that doesn't work try to use synaptics in system administration menu to fix your sources [01:40] asac, thx to show up. [01:40] its doing a mess of osmething [01:40] lee986321: your issues are really not firefox nor mozilla related, but somewhere further down the food chain ... try #ubuntu [01:41] and stalled at 99 percent [01:41] (it's 2:40am here and I work early tomorrow) [01:41] me too [01:41] eh k I am on kubuntu [01:41] but ty [01:41] lee986321: ask there [01:41] we are probably out now :) [01:41] bye [01:42] ty [10:27] ok i am probably off for a while testing nm 0.7 [10:57] hi [10:57] asac, http://diveintomark.org/archives/2007/10/18/gobuntu-has-already-failed [10:57] look at the bottom [11:22] how is that news :) [11:23] it's not. just pasted for the last part [11:23] yeah [11:24] mike commented on that too [11:24] but how has gobuntu failed? [11:24] where are the comments ... i don't see any on that page [11:24] just because it shipped the same ff a gutsy, so with non free branding [11:25] ok ... but thats the fault of gobuntu then [11:25] i have never been asked to fix anything in this regards [11:25] but gobuntu is a plain canonical distro, right ? [11:25] e.g. we could punch iceweasel into universe and they can pick that for their distro [11:26] i don't think so [11:26] i think it all started with an independent project from fsf ... didn't it? [11:26] e.g. they wanted to build a 100% free distribution based on ubuntu [11:26] then mark said ... ok i want to support that [11:26] i thought it was an idea from Mark [11:27] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/130 [11:27] yeah i think it existed before ... other name i guess [11:28] ah i think it was gnewsense that inspired this project [11:29] ff 2008 is out officially. are you done with testing ? [11:29] yes [11:30] i am demotivated because we technically cannot roll this out before monday [11:30] because of the gutsy dak sync [11:31] at least, push it too ppa so users concerned about that have a chance to grab it [11:31] Ubulette: its in my ppa [11:31] (except for gutsy) [11:31] but i can do that [11:31] the beta bits we tested are more or less the same [11:31] they miss two patches ... which are not critical [11:51] in fact only dapper misses those two patches ... edgy and feisty are the same as 2.0.0.8 final [11:51] so if people in forum ask, point them to my ppa ... and maybe tell them to subscribe to the testcase on mozilla.qa.stgraber.org to get informed when new prereleases become available :) [11:51] Ubulette: ^^ :) [11:54] yep, but I'm now only reading the forum for hardy [11:54] hehe [11:54] i'm waiting for the new toolchain :) [11:55] i need more forum embassador [11:55] yeah [11:55] http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/10/instantbird-mozilla-based-instant-messaging/ [11:58] nice [12:01] all mirrors are slow ... thats bad for me :/ [12:01] for ? [12:02] updating chroots et al [12:02] do you have a full archive mirror? [12:03] not anymore (too big). try the french mirrors [12:05] try ftp://ftp.proxad.fr/ it's usually fast [12:05] i ment full-mirror of main/universe of latest dev version :) [12:06] ftp protocol has always high latency for me [12:06] do they have http as well? [12:11] i dont know [12:12] try it with ftp, it should be faster anyway [12:19] oh reconnect [12:27] Ubulette: btw yesterday you said that there are only X debian related channels on freenode ... [12:27] in fact debian doesn't use freenode, but oftc officially [12:27] but you probably know === asac_ is now known as asac [12:30] yes, but i've only listed freenode [12:30] sure [12:31] at least debian-devel has 100+ more nicks than we have :) [12:31] (in -devel) [12:40] hmmm all peers on amd64 torrent are served already [13:13] uploading ... uploading ... uploading :) [13:14] interesting that my connection hasn't yet been dumped down [13:14] what speed ? [13:21] 100k total [13:21] sucks [13:21] lol [13:21] but we already talked about it [13:21] no fiber because of ignorant former monopol company that says: "copper is the future" [13:22] I can problably push a bit but 'im not sure it's useful [13:27] hehe [13:27] Ubulette: well these go directly to ubuntu archives. [13:27] Ubulette: you should at some point apply for MOTU powers [13:27] but not sure if you want that :) [13:28] what is the benefit ? [13:28] you can upload to universe :) [13:29] i've just started the two torrents for gutsy desktop i386/amd64 [13:29] 3min left [13:29] :) [13:31] yeah [13:31] lots of seeders [13:31] 1min left [13:31] do you still see any leechers at all? [13:32] not much [13:32] probably because one gets the bits with lightning speed [13:37] 200KB/s, not much [13:37] 600K [13:37] 800K [13:38] i thought you already have finished :) [13:38] or are you redownloading? [13:38] that's up [13:38] 1.1M [13:39] really? [13:39] so there are still leechers ;) [13:39] ok i think i don't need to seed then :) [13:42] I'll keep mine a bit, i don't lind [13:42] mind [13:45] i up 5 times more for i836 [13:45] k [13:48] i've added the 2 alternates [13:49] :) [13:49] it's even faster [13:49] 7M [13:51] i wonder if mozilla silently dropped support for 1.8.0 branch tbird [13:51] they don't mention 1.5.0.14 in the advisories [13:51] though they should ... because they announced earlier that 1.5.0.14 _will_ be the last release [13:51] tb seems in a bad shape with lead devs gone [13:51] lead devs gone? [13:52] is mscott gone? [13:52] well ... they officially demoted thunderbird on trunk to be _just_ a product until a new company/foundation takes it under their umbrella [13:52] i think that happened though [13:52] yep [13:52] s/just a product/just a project/ [13:53] so why do you think the lead devs are gone? [13:53] david + scott are the ones that cares for that branch i guess [13:53] hold on. i'm looking as my rss archives [13:54] http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/10/scott-mcgregor-thunderbird-lead-engineer-leaves-mozilla/ [13:54] http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/10/david-bienvenu-leaving-mozilla-thunderbird-in-trouble/ [13:55] the titles look scary enough :/ [13:59] now I up at 1.4MB/s (11Mbps) [13:59] 1.7 [14:00] 1.9 [14:00] yeah i just stopped to seed because of another upload :) [14:00] 2.1 [14:05] my ration is still < 1 :p [14:05] ratio [14:06] my ratio sucks [14:06] :) [14:06] 3.5M/s [14:06] but it doesnt last long [14:06] i've upped 2.2G [14:07] 4.1M/s [14:07] 4.7 [14:07] you should up 100GB [14:07] 5.7 [14:07] 6.3 [14:07] 7.4 [14:07] :) [14:07] 8.8 [14:07] how many leachers do you have` [14:07] 9.1 [14:07] no idea [14:09] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gutsy.png [14:12] nice [14:13] ratio 1.5 [14:15] Ubulette: do you know how to make pbuilder autosign packages? [14:16] hmm ... nevermind [14:20] ok ... i have 3 * xul 1.8.0 + 2 * xul 1.8.1 + 3 * iceape + 2 * icedove + 5 * thunderbird + 5 * firefox + 2 * sunbird + 1 * iceowl + 2 * xulrunner-1.9 + 2 * firefox-3.0 [14:20] on every security update [14:20] ouch [14:21] well 1.9 and 3.0 are not released in sync ... but somewhere in between i guess [14:21] i think i have to automize all this [14:21] its _really_ painful atm [14:25] why 2 xul1.9 ? [14:26] gutsy + hardy [14:26] this time i have luck :) [14:27] well not much :) [14:28] you have to push twice right ? just with debian/changelog =~ 's/gutsy/hardy/' ? [14:29] well ... this upload it will be more or less like that [14:29] maybe i will stop to improve firefox in hardy ...then i could stick to this [14:29] but i forked the branch alreadey [14:29] in bzr [14:33] where? [14:34] ubuntu-2.0.0.x.gutsy ... or something like taht [14:36] oh ok [15:03] hi Jazzva [15:04] Hello asac... [15:05] I'll try to fix that bug in ubufox now. I wasn't really able to start working in the morning... [15:09] btw, when are hardy repos gonna be available? [15:09] Jazzva: i think they are available right now [15:09] I thought of setting up old HDD for it :)... [15:09] but nothing has changed so far [15:09] try to flip your sources.list [15:09] ah [15:10] Jazzva: Ubulette already switched to hardy ;) [15:10] Well, I have to install some ubuntu on that other drive first... :) [15:10] Ubulette: Cool :D... [15:11] I wouldn't have courage to do it on this installation... [15:15] Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release [65.9kB] [15:15] Get:8 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages [1075kB] [15:15] Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Packages [7638B] [15:15] Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages [158kB] [15:15] Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages [4065kB] [15:15] :) [15:15] but it's damn slow [15:15] Fetched 6963kB in 2m1s (57.3kB/s) [15:21] ha 50K :) [15:30] Hmm, funny... In firefox2 I can't install a video plugin using ubufox from repo. [15:30] I'll try it now in gp. [15:31] Jazzva: you are talking abuot your ubufox? [15:31] Jazzva: which videoplugin? [15:31] asac: No, about the version from the repos... [15:31] what site? [15:32] people.ubuntu.com/.../2_multicontent.html [15:32] what error do you get? [15:32] for me synaptic fails atm with: [15:32] http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [15:32] http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [15:33] http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-backports/Release: Unable to find expected entry web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [15:33] http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release: Unable to find expected entry web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [15:33] And it doesn't matter which plugin. When you select a plugin and click next it skips to the last page... There is some page in between, but it's there for less then a second [15:33] strange [15:33] Jazzva: that works for me [15:33] Ok, I'll check it again :/... [15:33] Is it the repository version? [15:34] hmm after the error it installs totem anyway [15:34] 0.4~beta1-0ubuntu4 [15:34] i think thats ahead? [15:35] hmm, I have -0ubuntu3... [15:35] works with 3 as well [15:37] Jazzva: maybe you have still your version installed in the profile [15:37] you have to uninstall in addons dialog [15:37] Did that... [15:37] only then you will see the system installed one [15:37] ok [15:37] error console? [15:37] any output? [15:38] None... [15:38] But it behaves weird. [15:38] It lets me to skip to the next page, even if no plugin is selected [15:39] no plugin is selected? [15:39] that doesn't happen at all here [15:39] the stable ubufox selects the first automatically iirc [15:39] maybe you have your own ubuntu3 build installed? [15:39] Yes, that's what it should do [15:39] apt-get remove ubufox ... then apt-get clean ... then install again [15:40] Ok [15:45] does the mozillateam want to do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting [15:45] ?? [15:50] The report at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/September2007 does look nice... Clean and simple. (my opinion, even though I'm not part of mozillateam) [15:51] Jazzva: you are not? [15:51] Jazzva: you should i guess [15:51] asac: I meant you mean official members... nvm :). [15:52] asac: The version from the repo works nice... it was still mine installed [15:52] ok :) [15:52] good ;) [15:52] I'll do a diff between mine and the repo version and try to find the bug :). [15:53] well ... maybe really try to get the branch updated ;) [15:53] the real i mean [15:53] we should also integrate the finish translation that i couldn't include for release [15:53] Huh? [15:53] derived from main branch :) [15:53] or did you already do that? [15:53] ~asac/ubufox/main? that one? [15:53] yes [15:54] thats the _upstream_ branch ... which we use for development [15:54] I did... I branched from that and merged with my current (ff3)... [15:54] the ubuntu ones just get the packaging and cherry-picked patches in debian/patches [15:54] Jazzva: well ... what happened to the debian dir? [15:54] the main branch must not have one [15:54] Well, there isn't one.. [15:55] ok [15:55] did you remove it explicitly? [15:55] during merge? [15:55] Nope... [15:55] how did you merge then? [15:55] bzr merge http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jazzva/ubufox/ff3 [15:55] It went without an error... [15:56] ok so ff3 was already based on main [15:56] Yep... [15:56] but your ubuntu branch was based on ubuntu [15:56] i don't understand [15:56] Was it? *unsure* [15:56] it is [15:57] Because I branched ff3 from my ubuntu branch [15:57] oh no [15:57] then i was just confused [15:57] ok [15:57] Ok :)... [15:57] maybe rename it to main [15:57] I guess :)... [15:57] It'll be less confusing... [15:57] e.g. use that one [15:57] Jazzva: maybe fix the ubuntu/main branch first then [15:58] if that works merge the changes you did to ff3 as well [15:58] Ok... [15:58] i think the ubuntu/main branch is broken in itself [15:58] I'll take a look. Brb, lunch. [16:14] hmm [16:14] this is chatzilla with xulrunner-1.9 [16:15] i think we want to package that :) [16:19] what is "this" ? [16:20] i've already mentioned chatzilla /w xul weeks ago [16:24] hehe [16:24] yeah might be .. you mentioned alot ;) [16:24] i think we should setup a list of xulapps for hardy [16:25] asac, fixed :) [16:26] At least it selects first radio button by default, and I tested with mplayer and it calles apturl for that package... [16:26] hehe [16:26] fine [16:26] so that is on top of current main, right? [16:27] no, i still haven't pushed it... [16:27] no ... i mean locally [16:27] tep [16:27] if you fixed "main" [16:27] yep [16:27] ok [16:27] then pull in the admin feature for ubuntu as well [16:27] aeh for main :) [16:27] I think it's already there :)... just to test it [16:29] It's working... [16:30] So, should I push this to main (that is /ubufox/ubuntu) and ff3, and then ask someone to rename ubuntu to main branch? (Or, can I rename it myself *unsure*?) [16:39] Jazzva: you can rename on your own [16:40] in launchpad [16:40] Ok... I'll go find it now... [17:08] asac, i'm still at 5M/s [17:56] i stop there: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/gutsy2.png [17:57] that's equivalent to 81 CDs [18:02] asac, both branches are updated... i'll rename ff3 to main.ff3 [18:02] ubuntu is renamed to main [20:19] archive is damn slow [23:21] Jazzva: good [23:32] Ok :)...