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therethinker$ubotu00:05
mythbotUbotu is my older brother. I know much more about MythTV than he does, but he knows more about Ubuntu.00:05
therethinkerIS DEAD!00:05
therethinkerMythbot rulz00:05
foxbuntu$slap ubotu00:14
mythbot/me slaps ubotu00:14
MythbuntuGuest39Need help with HDHomerun card00:27
MythbuntuGuest60HDHomerun will not show up for capture cards config with terminal OK00:32
MythbuntuGuest60how copy??01:01
gibI got my Hauppauge 150 Today, and it worked right off the bat; only took a couple of seconds to configure, unlike the ADS PTV-150.  I have one problem, however.  The schedule guide is off by two channels.  The listings are accurate, but pushed up two channels (ie channel 4 is in the 6 slot, 5 in the 7 slot, ect.)  How can I correct this?01:08
gibPTV-305, I mean.01:08
gibI'm using schedulesdirect.01:09
therethinker$mythbot01:56
mythbotHi! I know a lot about MythTV! I can also do things like look stuff up on wikipedia. To see what I know, use $. To learn more about me, say $help.01:56
superm1therethinker, why does mythbot die a lot?01:58
therethinkerWell... it has...01:59
therethinkernevermind, I thought you asked "does it die a lot"... missed the why01:59
therethinkerI'm not quite sure... do you mind if I run the unmodified phenny bot in here, that way if I can figure out if its the channel, or my modifications?02:00
therethinkerI won't poke it or anything... I can't say that for tgm...02:01
superm1therethinker, well02:02
superm1what if its the channel02:03
superm1why would it be the channel02:03
therethinkerMaybe it has something to do with Chan serv or something...02:03
therethinkerIts always timeout errors...02:03
superm1perhaps your intarweb?02:05
therethinkerI wonder if there some way I can test that...02:06
therethinkerBecause It's gone out when my nets is fine, and the server is inbetween me and the nets02:06
superm1can you run him elsewhere?02:07
* therethinker hoped no one noticed...02:38
superm1therethinker, so can you run him elsewhere?02:40
therethinkerHmm... I might try tomorrow, I gotta go no02:40
therethinker*now02:40
superm1o02:40
superm1ok02:40
therethinkerits in #mythbot -- I'll see if it dies at the same time02:41
superm1okay cool02:41
superm1good idea02:41
therethinkerI bet $20 that it won't die tonight -- because I *want* it to die :P02:41
therethinker$infect mythbot02:41
mythbot/me takes control of mythbot's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.02:41
therethinkernow it will die, in 20 minutes :P02:42
scarter$help02:45
mythbotHi, I'm mythbot! You can pick my brain by using $. (See also: $source, $cmdhelp)02:45
scarter$ati hdtv wonder02:46
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "ati hdtv", sorry.02:46
scarter$cable hrc irc02:46
mythbotNeither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "cable hrc", sorry.02:46
superm1i dont think he knows multi word statements02:47
superm1have to check with therethinker on that though02:47
rhpot1991anyone here?04:23
tritiumhello rhpot199104:25
rhpot1991know anything about using the edit feature on a video?04:26
rhpot1991or where the cut list is stored04:26
tgm4883i think it's in the database04:26
rhpot1991I was messing around and made a backup of my file04:26
rhpot1991but its still skipping it04:26
rhpot1991so I need to delete the cut list04:26
tgm4883it's skipping what?04:27
rhpot1991the end of the show04:27
rhpot1991I didn't know what I was doing04:27
rhpot1991and was using a monocrome osd on top of that04:27
rhpot1991so its nice and messed up :)04:27
tgm4883well just go end and delete the last cutpoint04:28
rhpot1991did that, still missing it04:28
rhpot1991I said to remove the data after it, and apparently it isn't reversed by removing the cut point04:29
tgm4883thats odd04:29
rhpot1991let me double check04:29
rhpot1991cause it doesn't actually rip the comercial out till you transcode right?04:29
tgm4883right04:30
rhpot1991actually, its here04:31
rhpot1991my bad04:31
rhpot1991man it did a terrible job finding comercials here04:41
rhpot1991if I pause a job will the next one in the queue start?04:41
* tgm4883 shrugs04:53
rhpot1991after about 10 minutes of waiting I assumed no04:53
rhpot1991so I am waiting for it to finish out04:53
tazgodxhow do i tell mythtv to run jobs? for some reason its not running my jobs, and they are just queueing up05:04
rhpot1991there is an option in the backend config05:04
rhpot1991to enable a job05:04
rhpot1991I had the same problem the other day05:04
tazgodxbackend config eh?05:06
tazgodxknow where offhand?05:06
rhpot1991looking05:08
rhpot1991general05:08
rhpot1991then about 7 pages in05:08
rhpot1991"Allow 'User Job #1' jobs"05:08
tazgodxfound it05:08
rhpot1991and so on05:08
tazgodxthanks05:08
tazgodx:)05:08
tazgodxnow will they jsut start?05:09
Dr_willis7 pages in.. heh. :) aint that the truth..05:09
rhpot1991I think mine did05:09
Dr_willis'now where did i see that setting at.....'05:09
rhpot1991without having to delete and rerun05:09
rhpot1991by default it will only run one job at once too05:09
rhpot1991what kind of jobs are you running?05:10
tazgodxencode to xvid05:10
rhpot1991are you removing the commercials first?05:11
tazgodxim flagging them, then having them removed during encode...i believe05:11
tazgodxor, trying05:12
rhpot1991I think you need to convert the flags to cut lists first05:12
rhpot1991http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Removing_Commercials05:12
tazgodxi don't even know if i have nuvexport installed correctly to do this tho05:12
rhpot1991I have been messing with the script on that page05:12
rhpot1991my flagging hasn't been all that accurate though05:12
tazgodxmy flagging has been pretty accurate05:15
rhpot1991mine is for certain shows05:15
rhpot1991but seemed to screw up everything on nbc tonight05:16
tazgodxCSI?05:16
tazgodxlaw and order?05:16
rhpot1991don't record either of those05:16
rhpot1991I have tested a lot with the daily show and colbert report, works well on those05:16
tazgodxworks good on heroes and chuck05:16
tazgodxmy 2 main shows :)05:16
rhpot1991don't record anything on nbc tonight?05:16
tazgodxi didn't record anything since heroes05:17
rhpot1991I enabled strict comm detecting too05:17
tazgodxthat was monday05:17
tazgodxlol05:17
rhpot1991cause my wife was yelling about it not always working on her soap opera05:17
rhpot1991which, as far as I know, it does well now05:17
tazgodxhaha, i banned anyone from touching my box and putting a soap opera on it05:17
rhpot1991heh, I have 2 backends, one in my "office" and one in the living room05:18
rhpot1991I set the slave one up to record shows for her05:19
tazgodxi would still ban soaps05:19
rhpot1991gave me a good reason to waste money on hardware and mess around05:19
rhpot1991it only keeps 1, so its not filling my hd's up with junk or anything05:19
rhpot1991though I do understand05:19
tazgodxnow i need to figure out if i have nuvexport installed...and get that working....on top of everything else05:20
rhpot1991I used ffmpeg to encode for ipod05:21
rhpot1991hmmm, this didn't do what it was supposed to at all05:22
tazgodxonly script i could find to encode to xvid was a nuvexport script. but it uses ffmpeg05:22
rhpot1991guess the remove commercial script erased my cut list05:23
tazgodxwell, im tired of working on computers tonight. ill play more with this tomorrow05:27
rhpot1991note to self, rm and mv not the same05:30
rhpot1991almost did something bad05:30
tazgodxhaha05:32
rhpot1991hmmmm, anyone else have mythfrontend locking up when they edit a recording?06:15
rhpot19912007-10-19 01:15:16.408 NVP::AddAudioData():p1: Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!06:16
rhpot19912007-10-19 01:15:16.408 AddInheritence past      F   NOT in used or in done. ALLDDaDP06:16
rhpot1991getting a whole lot of that06:16
gibHow do you add a noise filter to TV recordings if your signal is not all that great.  Can you apply it either at recording time or playback time?06:18
gibThe DVD recorder I just replaced used to look better than watching TV live because of some filter they applied.06:20
gibI must have been more than deinterlacing, because that's not doing the trick.06:22
gibLooks like quickdnr or denoise3d are what I'm looking for.   I can barely manage quickdnr as a playback filter, and denoise3d is way to much for my cpu to to in realtime.    Can you use a transcoder to an MPEG2 file and not change anything about the format except applying custom filters like denoise3d?07:52
gibtoo much07:52
giband have the transcoders only work on the files during idle time.07:54
gibI think I found what I need.  There is quite a bit to learn to use mythtv most effectively.08:04
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therethinker$mythbot11:35
mythbotHi! I know a lot about MythTV! I can also do things like look stuff up on wikipedia. To see what I know, use $. To learn more about me, say $help.11:35
therethinkerof course, he didn't die11:35
therethinkerNow I'm going to :P11:35
sam_any clues on the mythtv-multi-rec branch?14:42
sam_status ie14:42
drunken-wallabyI've got a question. i have two tuner cards built into my mythbuntu box. a pvr150 and an old bttv based card. my problem is, that when i boot the machine, the cards are assigned the video devices randomly. so the pvr is sometimes /dev/video0 and sometimes /dev/video1 (and the other card vica verse). how can i make sure, that the ivtv-based card is always /dev/video?15:55
drunken-wallabysorry, the ivtv card should alway be /dev/video015:57
hugolpdrunken-wallaby:  I have the same problem16:26
hugolpI know the devs are aware of this problem but dont know if its solved yet16:26
directhex|workyou could always mess with udev16:27
directhex|workor you could force loading a driver in /etc/modules, which means the other card gets assigned during autodetection, which is a different time to manual module loading16:28
hugolpdirecthex|work:  if I force loading a driver in /etc/modules that gets done before or after autodetection? Im guessing before16:30
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just1njanyone alive17:21
pdragonbarely17:22
just1nji hear ya17:22
just1nji am having a problem with getting mythfrontend to autostart properly17:23
pdragoni'm not a dev, but can try my best. brand new install?17:24
just1njwondering if it is a bug or something else, i installed ubuntu gusty via the alternate install cd to get my software raid working and have mythbuntu more and less working,17:24
pdragondoes it start and work fine if you manually tell it to start?17:25
just1njit just that when mythfrontend in configured to autostart the auto login hangs at the "autostart" part and never finishes the log,17:25
just1njya work fine manually17:25
just1njbut then its autostarted the box eventually crashes hard when the load gets too high17:26
just1njit looks like to many mythfrontend are getting forked17:26
pdragonhmm... bit beyond me sorry17:27
pdragonsuperm1 or tgm4883 may be able to be more help if they come around17:27
just1njrighto17:27
pdragonthat just paged them, so if they're around and available they should respond17:28
just1njk17:29
StrawberryAngel1how do you switch workspaces in mythbuntu?18:12
DavieyStrawberryAngel1: I would think, the same way you would in XFCE or Xubuntu18:13
StrawberryAngel1xfce is new to me18:13
StrawberryAngel1so how do i?18:13
DavieyStrawberryAngel1: I don't know - maybe ask in #xubuntu, or I can have a play later18:14
DavieySorry i can't help more18:14
StrawberryAngel1ok18:14
reclusivemonkeyStrawberryAngel1: ctrl+alt+arrow keys (left and right)18:16
StrawberryAngel1thank you18:16
superm1just1nj, still need help?18:20
just1njya18:25
just1njautostarting mythfrontend at login is crashing my box18:25
just1njif you do not autostart it and run it from the menu it works fine18:26
superm1just1nj, mythbuntu's xfce session?18:27
superm1or is this a gnome session?18:27
just1njya18:27
superm1can you checkout ~/.xsession-errors18:27
superm1and /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log?18:27
superm1and see if either tells a tale about this?18:27
superm1wait the ya, was that meant for ya mythbuntu xfce?18:28
superm1or gnome18:28
just1njcorrect18:28
superm1lol18:28
superm1xfce or gnome, which one18:28
just1njxfce18:29
superm1ah okay.18:30
superm1well pastebin those two logs18:30
superm1and we can start there18:30
superm1so you installed a bit of a non standard way you say?18:30
just1njya i used the gusty alternate install cd to install gusty with software raid and then did the mythbuntu install18:31
superm1ah i see18:32
just1njno lvm/raid support is kinda limiting18:33
just1njmost things are working fine18:33
superm1yeah at uds i'm going to talk to ubiquity guys about lvm support18:33
Davieyjust1nj: it's in the works18:33
just1njthe old router i have running as a client bridge until i get wireless internal working on that box is being flaky again cutting out on it which makes doing things out of the house harder18:39
just1njand nothing in the .xsession-errors is older than today18:40
superm1its made when you log in18:41
superm1so you have to activate the automatic login/startup18:41
superm1and then look at it18:41
just1njsomething i dont like doing remotely incase something gets dorks up in reboot18:42
superm1well you can just issue a /etc/init.d/gdm restart18:43
superm1remotely via ssh18:43
just1njbox seems to be responsive again, what is the entry for starting the frontend suppsosed to be in .config/autostart19:01
superm1a symlink19:01
superm1to /usr/share/mythtv/applications/mythtv.desktop19:02
just1njshouldnt that be /usr/share/applications/mythtv.desktop19:03
superm1did i type that wrong?19:03
superm1oh yeah19:04
superm1yeah that's right19:04
superm1my mistake19:04
just1njhrm19:05
just1njthere a error about thunar-volman not being installed that i took care of before restarting gdm19:05
superm1anything else though?19:06
just1njsays it cant find /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore19:06
superm1dont worry about htat19:06
superm1things about starting myth is what you want to see19:07
just1njsystem load isnt running away19:07
just1njand only one instance of mythfrontend.real appears to be running19:08
superm1so its fine?19:08
just1njbut i am at work and cant actually see if the frontend is running on the screen19:08
superm1vnc?19:08
just1njnot currently configured19:09
just1njbut from here is looks like it going ok, the system load is fine and the frontend is still running19:10
just1njanother quick question, how do i get totem from starting when a dvd is inserted19:12
superm1huh?19:12
superm1from starting?19:12
tgm4883_laptopjust1nj, mythbuntu install?19:12
just1nji think totem was configured to run when a dvd was insert before i got mythbuntu installed over the gusty base and not the removable media option seems to be gone in xfce19:13
superm1there is an option in the xfce settings menu19:14
tgm4883_laptopyea19:14
just1njwith it "gone" is there some way to edit/remove a file somewhere else to make totem to stop being run19:15
testerggHi, I just put a new capture card in with mythbuntu and saa7134 via dmesg but the picture is fuzzy (coax- channel=3) it's a proteus pro 2309 card=98 autodetected don't know what to check i need ntsc channel 3 for capturing - and I don't get any sound19:15
tgm4883_laptoptry gnome-volume-properties19:15
tgm4883_laptoptestergg, how fuzzy19:15
testerggtgm4883_laptop: very I have a tv next to it and it's crystal clear, this shows bands (vertical) with show in them very unclear19:16
testerggwhat tuner would anyone suggest for ntsc north america with this card?19:29
superm1what "tuner"?19:31
superm1what do you mean by that.19:31
testerggsuperm1: I read on the wiki that with these types of card you must configure it for a tuner that corresponds to your region and standard, I need ntsc19:38
superm1oh.  i haven't worked with any saa7134 cards myself.19:39
superm1sorry19:39
pdragonsuperm1: Here's a way to decorate your office  http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/10/livin-in-mario-world.html19:56
superm1pdragon, i do try embrace the name :)19:56
superm1i've got a mario doll in my car19:56
superm1and i had one at my office this summer19:56
testerggis a little fuzzy what I should expect or should it be crystal clear?19:59
superm1it is usually a little fuzzy20:00
superm1especially when comparing a computer monitor to a tv20:00
superm1if you hook up the computer to the tv, it will typically look better20:01
testerggok so maybe I can't improve on what I get, I thought that with mythtv I could get a clear picutre, would this be better with a pvr-150 card?20:03
superm1the pvr-150 is higher quality yes20:03
superm1since its hardware encoding20:03
therethinker$mythbot20:24
superm1therethinker, so it died20:27
superm1did you figure out if it died in #mythbot too20:28
therethinkerNo, I wasn't there -- I was installing gutsy20:28
therethinkerand it stayed alive overnight... when I wanted to to crash20:28
reclusivemonke1is anyone else having trouble getting listings from XMLTV in the UK? I don't seem to be able to get a response from the radio times website20:31
Varkahi20:32
Varkai cant get my hauppauge wintv dvb-s to scan for channels20:33
tgm4883_laptop$add spec20:49
mythbotPlease write up a new specification for that here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/  We appreciate the ideas.  Without a blueprint, 99/100 it won't get done.20:49
therethinker"Without a blueprint, 99/100 it won't get done." what?20:49
tgm4883_laptop99 times out of 100 it wont get doe20:50
tgm4883_laptopdone20:50
tgm4883_laptopso you need a blueprint20:50
therethinkerwhy not say 99% chance?20:50
tgm4883_laptopI did20:50
tgm4883_laptop$add spec20:51
mythbotPlease write up a new specification for that here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/  We appreciate the ideas.  Without a blueprint, there is a 99% chance that it won't get done.20:51
tgm4883_laptopsee20:51
tgm4883_laptopyou're just crazy20:51
tgm4883_laptop$blueprints20:56
mythbothttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/20:56
DaveMorrissolarbaby: you been able to do that xboxfrontend stuff ?20:58
DaveMorris$bugs21:03
mythbothttp://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu21:03
DaveMorris$forums21:05
mythbotThis is the Official Mythbuntu Forum http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=30121:05
therethinker restarting server21:05
DaveMorris$wiki21:08
mythbothttp://wiki.mythbuntu.org21:08
hugol1One of my front-end crashed the other day and since then mythtv is not working perfectly. Sometimes it takes like 8-9 seconds to start live-tv and other anoying effects21:08
hugol1is somewhere in the database or other place where I can check for any corrupted configuration?¿21:09
therethinker$wiki21:09
mythbotMythbuntu -- http://wiki.mythbuntu.org ; MythTV -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV21:09
therethinkerokay, that works21:09
DaveMorrisseems good21:09
DaveMorris8-9 secs is how long mine takes21:09
DaveMorrisas it takes the tv stream, saves it to disk, then passes the data of the disk to the frontend21:10
DaveMorrismight still be a problem though21:10
pdragonmine only takes like 3, 4 seconds tops21:11
* DaveMorris has a p450 for a backend though21:11
pdragonahh21:11
hugol1DaveMorris:  it was doing it in 1-3 seconds before21:11
pdragon2.8 celeron21:11
tgm4883_laptopI doubt it's happening in 1 second21:11
pdragonhas to cache 2-3 seconds of tv beforehand at the least21:11
tgm4883_laptopMythTV devs say it writes 4 seconds to disk first21:12
hugol1tgm4883_laptop:  I can tell you it didnt take 4 seconds to watch live tv21:12
hugol1plus I can change channels in less than that time21:12
hugol1now when I watch live tv theres a gap of 23-25 seconds that I cant watch21:21
hugol1when I change into  a new channel it tells me taht I have been 23 seconds watching it allredy21:21
hugol1....21:21
hugol1anyone know what setting can be wrong?21:21
tgm4883_laptopsounds like some database problems21:24
tgm4883_laptophmm21:24
hugol1tgm4883_laptop:  is anything besides reinstalling that I can do?21:28
tgm4883_laptopyea21:28
hugol1this weird things started happening after one of the front ends crashed21:28
tgm4883_laptophow long have you had it installed?21:29
hugol1I guess it left something wrong in the database21:29
hugol15 days more o less21:29
hugol1I reinstalled ubuntu 6 days ago21:29
hugol1instaleed gutsy21:29
tgm4883_laptopwell you could try repairing the database, or importing a backup of the database21:29
hugol1tgm4883_laptop:  how do I repair the database?21:30
hugol1I didnt do any backup of the database and I guess mythtv doesnt do them automatically right?21:30
DaveMorrisisn't there an option for reparing the database21:30
DaveMorrishugol1: it does, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58117221:31
reclusivemonke1is anyone else having trouble getting listings from XMLTV in the UK? I don't seem to be able to get a response from the radio times website21:31
tgm4883_laptopI had a database issue and ran the optimize tables on it from MCC21:31
DaveMorrissorry reclusivemonke1I use the EIT here in the UK21:32
hugol1DaveMorris:  Im cheking that link, but how do I go about repairing the actual database?21:32
reclusivemonke1$eit21:34
hugol1DaveMorris:  I didnt install mythbuntu, I installed Ubuntu gutsy desktop and installed the mythtv packets from synaptic. I dont think that way the backups are done right?21:34
DaveMorrissuperm1: ^^21:34
superm1backups are weekly21:34
DaveMorrisreclusivemonke1: it's the free to air transmitted guide, 7 days worth21:34
superm1and automatic21:34
DaveMorrissometimes refered as EPG21:34
DaveMorrissuperm1: on ubuntu with mythtv as well?21:34
superm1yeah21:35
reclusivemonke1ah right. I don't get digital until 2011 where I live now :-S21:35
hugol1superm1:  where are this backups?21:35
superm1/var/backups i think21:35
DaveMorrisreclusivemonke1: lives in the middle of nowhere21:35
hugol1ok Ill check thanks21:35
DaveMorrisI'm guessing you need to log into the database manually and do a drop on the database, then import the sql dmp21:35
hugol1and how do I run the aplication to repair the databes?21:36
hugol1DaveMorris:  I am used to work with databases21:36
DaveMorris[IDEA] m-c-c provides easy restoration my database backups21:36
hugol1specially mysql21:36
superm1$spec21:36
DaveMorrisyou'll know what to do then :)21:36
tgm4883_laptop$add spec21:36
hugol1mcc is mythbuntu control center?21:36
DaveMorris$blueprints21:36
DaveMorris$blueprint21:36
tgm4883_laptop:(21:36
DaveMorrishugol yes21:37
pdragoni saw that check box in MCC to run daily database maintenance. Is it good to check that anyway even if you're not having problems?21:37
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, tell DaveMorris $add spec21:37
DaveMorris$url21:37
DaveMorrisstupid bot21:37
hugol1if I install mythbuntu control center will it change any configuration in my ubuntu computer besides any mythtv configuration?21:37
superm1bootsplash21:38
superm1that's about all you will see changed though21:38
therethinker$add spec21:39
DaveMorrissomeone already did the spec - https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/backup-restore21:39
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, does mythbot autojoin?21:39
therethinkerWhat?21:39
hugolpok thanks21:39
tgm4883_laptopthis channel21:39
therethinker$mythbot21:40
therethinkerNo, it connects21:40
therethinkerAh, its dead!21:40
therethinkerIts about to crash!21:40
tgm4883_laptopi was just wondering what would happen if we kicked it21:40
therethinkerThat means I can get some test data...21:40
hugolpshit21:40
tgm4883_laptop?21:41
hugolpit only keeps one database back-up and it was done today21:41
therethinkerWhoo!21:41
therethinkerIt quit at the same time on both!21:41
DaveMorrishugolp I think we need to file a bug on that 1 then21:41
DaveMorris$bugs21:42
mythbothttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/+packagebugs21:42
hugolpDaveMorris:  is suposed to behave in a different way?21:42
superm1hugolp, no it uses rotations21:42
frank_The mythtv backend setup in gutsy is not doing the mythfilldatabase when I click yes at the prompy21:42
tgm4883_laptophugolp, no it should do a few at lease21:42
hugolprotations?21:42
frank_prompt*21:42
DaveMorriswell, personally I'd like to see more than 1 backup21:42
superm1it will make more than one backup21:42
superm1i dont know how that's handled21:42
tgm4883_laptopDaveMorris, there is more than one backup21:42
superm1but it does21:42
tgm4883_laptoplooks like it makes 5 backups21:42
tgm4883_laptop1 per week21:43
hugolpand I didnt think it was important but now that Im here, mythbackend setup sometimes starts at a console sometime it doesnt21:43
tgm4883_laptopso it could make more, 5 weeks ago sounds like when i installed21:43
frank_I'm doing the mythfilldatabase manualy but the automated way after you setup the backend doesn't work21:44
frank_can anyone confirm?21:47
hugolpit works here21:49
frank_hugolp: maybe it's because I'm running kubuntu....?21:50
hugolpnot very probable but I guess it could be21:51
frank_not sure what to do to find the problem.21:52
* DaveMorris risks been killed by upgrading his frontend to gutsy22:41
therethinkerI've been writing programs to write sonnets...22:43
therethinkerits... interesting :P22:43
reclusivemonke1therethinker: stanzas or it doesn't exist ;-)22:45
therethinkerhttp://zbanks.mine.nu:8080/test.html#22:45
therethinkerhttp://pastebin.org/5361 --sample22:46
therethinkerit only knows about 50 words or so :p22:46
reclusivemonke1lol they all seem a little freudian!22:47
therethinkerreclusivemonke1, hehe, they're not *that* bad, as far as computer-generated talk goes22:49
reclusivemonke1certainly shows promise22:49
therethinkerYeah... its based on a recursive sentence generator I wrote... I took out a ton of features that tended to make sentances too long (dep. clauses, compound sent, etc)22:50
therethinkerSonnets are hard, because they're so long :p22:50
DaveMorristherethinker: you do this for work?22:51
therethinkerErr... no :P22:51
reclusivemonke1is there a purpose behind it all? (besides the obvious)22:51
therethinkerNo, not really. I'm interested in this stuff...22:51
DaveMorristhere is a natural language group at work who I know a few people of22:51
therethinkerThere was a small section in GEB:EGB that inspired me...22:51
therethinkerDaveMorris: I've been talking about it on swhack... I found them from the phenny bot, and this fits in to the topic of their channel...22:52
therethinkerhaikus are easier... and make a bit more sense:THE DOG: A dog is a dog./My smelly cow is on a key./A cat is my mouse.22:56

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