[00:05] <therethinker> $ubotu
[00:05] <mythbot> Ubotu is my older brother. I know much more about MythTV than he does, but he knows more about Ubuntu.
[00:05] <therethinker> IS DEAD!
[00:05] <therethinker> Mythbot rulz
[00:14] <foxbuntu> $slap ubotu
[00:14] <mythbot> /me slaps ubotu
[00:27] <MythbuntuGuest39> Need help with HDHomerun card
[00:32] <MythbuntuGuest60> HDHomerun will not show up for capture cards config with terminal OK
[01:01] <MythbuntuGuest60> how copy??
[01:08] <gib> I got my Hauppauge 150 Today, and it worked right off the bat; only took a couple of seconds to configure, unlike the ADS PTV-150.  I have one problem, however.  The schedule guide is off by two channels.  The listings are accurate, but pushed up two channels (ie channel 4 is in the 6 slot, 5 in the 7 slot, ect.)  How can I correct this?
[01:08] <gib> PTV-305, I mean.
[01:09] <gib> I'm using schedulesdirect.
[01:56] <therethinker> $mythbot
[01:56] <mythbot> Hi! I know a lot about MythTV! I can also do things like look stuff up on wikipedia. To see what I know, use $. To learn more about me, say $help.
[01:58] <superm1> therethinker, why does mythbot die a lot?
[01:59] <therethinker> Well... it has...
[01:59] <therethinker> nevermind, I thought you asked "does it die a lot"... missed the why
[02:00] <therethinker> I'm not quite sure... do you mind if I run the unmodified phenny bot in here, that way if I can figure out if its the channel, or my modifications?
[02:01] <therethinker> I won't poke it or anything... I can't say that for tgm...
[02:02] <superm1> therethinker, well
[02:03] <superm1> what if its the channel
[02:03] <superm1> why would it be the channel
[02:03] <therethinker> Maybe it has something to do with Chan serv or something...
[02:03] <therethinker> Its always timeout errors...
[02:05] <superm1> perhaps your intarweb?
[02:06] <therethinker> I wonder if there some way I can test that...
[02:06] <therethinker> Because It's gone out when my nets is fine, and the server is inbetween me and the nets
[02:07] <superm1> can you run him elsewhere?
[02:38]  * therethinker hoped no one noticed...
[02:40] <superm1> therethinker, so can you run him elsewhere?
[02:40] <therethinker> Hmm... I might try tomorrow, I gotta go no
[02:40] <therethinker> *now
[02:40] <superm1> o
[02:40] <superm1> ok
[02:41] <therethinker> its in #mythbot -- I'll see if it dies at the same time
[02:41] <superm1> okay cool
[02:41] <superm1> good idea
[02:41] <therethinker> I bet $20 that it won't die tonight -- because I *want* it to die :P
[02:41] <therethinker> $infect mythbot
[02:41] <mythbot> /me takes control of mythbot's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.
[02:42] <therethinker> now it will die, in 20 minutes :P
[02:45] <scarter> $help
[02:45] <mythbot> Hi, I'm mythbot! You can pick my brain by using $. (See also: $source, $cmdhelp)
[02:46] <scarter> $ati hdtv wonder
[02:46] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "ati hdtv", sorry.
[02:46] <scarter> $cable hrc irc
[02:46] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "cable hrc", sorry.
[02:47] <superm1> i dont think he knows multi word statements
[02:47] <superm1> have to check with therethinker on that though
[04:23] <rhpot1991> anyone here?
[04:25] <tritium> hello rhpot1991
[04:26] <rhpot1991> know anything about using the edit feature on a video?
[04:26] <rhpot1991> or where the cut list is stored
[04:26] <tgm4883> i think it's in the database
[04:26] <rhpot1991> I was messing around and made a backup of my file
[04:26] <rhpot1991> but its still skipping it
[04:26] <rhpot1991> so I need to delete the cut list
[04:27] <tgm4883> it's skipping what?
[04:27] <rhpot1991> the end of the show
[04:27] <rhpot1991> I didn't know what I was doing
[04:27] <rhpot1991> and was using a monocrome osd on top of that
[04:27] <rhpot1991> so its nice and messed up :)
[04:28] <tgm4883> well just go end and delete the last cutpoint
[04:28] <rhpot1991> did that, still missing it
[04:29] <rhpot1991> I said to remove the data after it, and apparently it isn't reversed by removing the cut point
[04:29] <tgm4883> thats odd
[04:29] <rhpot1991> let me double check
[04:29] <rhpot1991> cause it doesn't actually rip the comercial out till you transcode right?
[04:30] <tgm4883> right
[04:31] <rhpot1991> actually, its here
[04:31] <rhpot1991> my bad
[04:41] <rhpot1991> man it did a terrible job finding comercials here
[04:41] <rhpot1991> if I pause a job will the next one in the queue start?
[04:53]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[04:53] <rhpot1991> after about 10 minutes of waiting I assumed no
[04:53] <rhpot1991> so I am waiting for it to finish out
[05:04] <tazgodx> how do i tell mythtv to run jobs? for some reason its not running my jobs, and they are just queueing up
[05:04] <rhpot1991> there is an option in the backend config
[05:04] <rhpot1991> to enable a job
[05:04] <rhpot1991> I had the same problem the other day
[05:06] <tazgodx> backend config eh?
[05:06] <tazgodx> know where offhand?
[05:08] <rhpot1991> looking
[05:08] <rhpot1991> general
[05:08] <rhpot1991> then about 7 pages in
[05:08] <rhpot1991> "Allow 'User Job #1' jobs"
[05:08] <tazgodx> found it
[05:08] <rhpot1991> and so on
[05:08] <tazgodx> thanks
[05:08] <tazgodx> :)
[05:09] <tazgodx> now will they jsut start?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> 7 pages in.. heh. :) aint that the truth..
[05:09] <rhpot1991> I think mine did
[05:09] <Dr_willis> 'now where did i see that setting at.....'
[05:09] <rhpot1991> without having to delete and rerun
[05:09] <rhpot1991> by default it will only run one job at once too
[05:10] <rhpot1991> what kind of jobs are you running?
[05:10] <tazgodx> encode to xvid
[05:11] <rhpot1991> are you removing the commercials first?
[05:11] <tazgodx> im flagging them, then having them removed during encode...i believe
[05:12] <tazgodx> or, trying
[05:12] <rhpot1991> I think you need to convert the flags to cut lists first
[05:12] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Removing_Commercials
[05:12] <tazgodx> i don't even know if i have nuvexport installed correctly to do this tho
[05:12] <rhpot1991> I have been messing with the script on that page
[05:12] <rhpot1991> my flagging hasn't been all that accurate though
[05:15] <tazgodx> my flagging has been pretty accurate
[05:15] <rhpot1991> mine is for certain shows
[05:16] <rhpot1991> but seemed to screw up everything on nbc tonight
[05:16] <tazgodx> CSI?
[05:16] <tazgodx> law and order?
[05:16] <rhpot1991> don't record either of those
[05:16] <rhpot1991> I have tested a lot with the daily show and colbert report, works well on those
[05:16] <tazgodx> works good on heroes and chuck
[05:16] <tazgodx> my 2 main shows :)
[05:16] <rhpot1991> don't record anything on nbc tonight?
[05:17] <tazgodx> i didn't record anything since heroes
[05:17] <rhpot1991> I enabled strict comm detecting too
[05:17] <tazgodx> that was monday
[05:17] <tazgodx> lol
[05:17] <rhpot1991> cause my wife was yelling about it not always working on her soap opera
[05:17] <rhpot1991> which, as far as I know, it does well now
[05:17] <tazgodx> haha, i banned anyone from touching my box and putting a soap opera on it
[05:18] <rhpot1991> heh, I have 2 backends, one in my "office" and one in the living room
[05:19] <rhpot1991> I set the slave one up to record shows for her
[05:19] <tazgodx> i would still ban soaps
[05:19] <rhpot1991> gave me a good reason to waste money on hardware and mess around
[05:19] <rhpot1991> it only keeps 1, so its not filling my hd's up with junk or anything
[05:19] <rhpot1991> though I do understand
[05:20] <tazgodx> now i need to figure out if i have nuvexport installed...and get that working....on top of everything else
[05:21] <rhpot1991> I used ffmpeg to encode for ipod
[05:22] <rhpot1991> hmmm, this didn't do what it was supposed to at all
[05:22] <tazgodx> only script i could find to encode to xvid was a nuvexport script. but it uses ffmpeg
[05:23] <rhpot1991> guess the remove commercial script erased my cut list
[05:27] <tazgodx> well, im tired of working on computers tonight. ill play more with this tomorrow
[05:30] <rhpot1991> note to self, rm and mv not the same
[05:30] <rhpot1991> almost did something bad
[05:32] <tazgodx> haha
[06:15] <rhpot1991> hmmmm, anyone else have mythfrontend locking up when they edit a recording?
[06:16] <rhpot1991> 2007-10-19 01:15:16.408 NVP::AddAudioData():p1: Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost!
[06:16] <rhpot1991> 2007-10-19 01:15:16.408 AddInheritence past      F   NOT in used or in done. ALLDDaDP
[06:16] <rhpot1991> getting a whole lot of that
[06:18] <gib> How do you add a noise filter to TV recordings if your signal is not all that great.  Can you apply it either at recording time or playback time?
[06:20] <gib> The DVD recorder I just replaced used to look better than watching TV live because of some filter they applied.
[06:22] <gib> I must have been more than deinterlacing, because that's not doing the trick.
[07:52] <gib> Looks like quickdnr or denoise3d are what I'm looking for.   I can barely manage quickdnr as a playback filter, and denoise3d is way to much for my cpu to to in realtime.    Can you use a transcoder to an MPEG2 file and not change anything about the format except applying custom filters like denoise3d?
[07:52] <gib> too much
[07:54] <gib> and have the transcoders only work on the files during idle time.
[08:04] <gib> I think I found what I need.  There is quite a bit to learn to use mythtv most effectively.
[11:35] <therethinker> $mythbot
[11:35] <mythbot> Hi! I know a lot about MythTV! I can also do things like look stuff up on wikipedia. To see what I know, use $. To learn more about me, say $help.
[11:35] <therethinker> of course, he didn't die
[11:35] <therethinker> Now I'm going to :P
[14:42] <sam_> any clues on the mythtv-multi-rec branch?
[14:42] <sam_> status ie
[15:55] <drunken-wallaby> I've got a question. i have two tuner cards built into my mythbuntu box. a pvr150 and an old bttv based card. my problem is, that when i boot the machine, the cards are assigned the video devices randomly. so the pvr is sometimes /dev/video0 and sometimes /dev/video1 (and the other card vica verse). how can i make sure, that the ivtv-based card is always /dev/video?
[15:57] <drunken-wallaby> sorry, the ivtv card should alway be /dev/video0
[16:26] <hugolp> drunken-wallaby:  I have the same problem
[16:26] <hugolp> I know the devs are aware of this problem but dont know if its solved yet
[16:27] <directhex|work> you could always mess with udev
[16:28] <directhex|work> or you could force loading a driver in /etc/modules, which means the other card gets assigned during autodetection, which is a different time to manual module loading
[16:30] <hugolp> directhex|work:  if I force loading a driver in /etc/modules that gets done before or after autodetection? Im guessing before
[17:21] <just1nj> anyone alive
[17:22] <pdragon> barely
[17:22] <just1nj> i hear ya
[17:23] <just1nj> i am having a problem with getting mythfrontend to autostart properly
[17:24] <pdragon> i'm not a dev, but can try my best. brand new install?
[17:24] <just1nj> wondering if it is a bug or something else, i installed ubuntu gusty via the alternate install cd to get my software raid working and have mythbuntu more and less working,
[17:25] <pdragon> does it start and work fine if you manually tell it to start?
[17:25] <just1nj> it just that when mythfrontend in configured to autostart the auto login hangs at the "autostart" part and never finishes the log,
[17:25] <just1nj> ya work fine manually
[17:26] <just1nj> but then its autostarted the box eventually crashes hard when the load gets too high
[17:26] <just1nj> it looks like to many mythfrontend are getting forked
[17:27] <pdragon> hmm... bit beyond me sorry
[17:27] <pdragon> superm1 or tgm4883 may be able to be more help if they come around
[17:27] <just1nj> righto
[17:28] <pdragon> that just paged them, so if they're around and available they should respond
[17:29] <just1nj> k
[18:12] <StrawberryAngel1> how do you switch workspaces in mythbuntu?
[18:13] <Daviey> StrawberryAngel1: I would think, the same way you would in XFCE or Xubuntu
[18:13] <StrawberryAngel1> xfce is new to me
[18:13] <StrawberryAngel1> so how do i?
[18:14] <Daviey> StrawberryAngel1: I don't know - maybe ask in #xubuntu, or I can have a play later
[18:14] <Daviey> Sorry i can't help more
[18:14] <StrawberryAngel1> ok
[18:16] <reclusivemonkey> StrawberryAngel1: ctrl+alt+arrow keys (left and right)
[18:16] <StrawberryAngel1> thank you
[18:20] <superm1> just1nj, still need help?
[18:25] <just1nj> ya
[18:25] <just1nj> autostarting mythfrontend at login is crashing my box
[18:26] <just1nj> if you do not autostart it and run it from the menu it works fine
[18:27] <superm1> just1nj, mythbuntu's xfce session?
[18:27] <superm1> or is this a gnome session?
[18:27] <just1nj> ya
[18:27] <superm1> can you checkout ~/.xsession-errors
[18:27] <superm1> and /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log?
[18:27] <superm1> and see if either tells a tale about this?
[18:28] <superm1> wait the ya, was that meant for ya mythbuntu xfce?
[18:28] <superm1> or gnome
[18:28] <just1nj> correct
[18:28] <superm1> lol
[18:28] <superm1> xfce or gnome, which one
[18:29] <just1nj> xfce
[18:30] <superm1> ah okay.
[18:30] <superm1> well pastebin those two logs
[18:30] <superm1> and we can start there
[18:30] <superm1> so you installed a bit of a non standard way you say?
[18:31] <just1nj> ya i used the gusty alternate install cd to install gusty with software raid and then did the mythbuntu install
[18:32] <superm1> ah i see
[18:33] <just1nj> no lvm/raid support is kinda limiting
[18:33] <just1nj> most things are working fine
[18:33] <superm1> yeah at uds i'm going to talk to ubiquity guys about lvm support
[18:33] <Daviey> just1nj: it's in the works
[18:39] <just1nj> the old router i have running as a client bridge until i get wireless internal working on that box is being flaky again cutting out on it which makes doing things out of the house harder
[18:40] <just1nj> and nothing in the .xsession-errors is older than today
[18:41] <superm1> its made when you log in
[18:41] <superm1> so you have to activate the automatic login/startup
[18:41] <superm1> and then look at it
[18:42] <just1nj> something i dont like doing remotely incase something gets dorks up in reboot
[18:43] <superm1> well you can just issue a /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:43] <superm1> remotely via ssh
[19:01] <just1nj> box seems to be responsive again, what is the entry for starting the frontend suppsosed to be in .config/autostart
[19:01] <superm1> a symlink
[19:02] <superm1> to /usr/share/mythtv/applications/mythtv.desktop
[19:03] <just1nj> shouldnt that be /usr/share/applications/mythtv.desktop
[19:03] <superm1> did i type that wrong?
[19:04] <superm1> oh yeah
[19:04] <superm1> yeah that's right
[19:04] <superm1> my mistake
[19:05] <just1nj> hrm
[19:05] <just1nj> there a error about thunar-volman not being installed that i took care of before restarting gdm
[19:06] <superm1> anything else though?
[19:06] <just1nj> says it cant find /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore
[19:06] <superm1> dont worry about htat
[19:07] <superm1> things about starting myth is what you want to see
[19:07] <just1nj> system load isnt running away
[19:08] <just1nj> and only one instance of mythfrontend.real appears to be running
[19:08] <superm1> so its fine?
[19:08] <just1nj> but i am at work and cant actually see if the frontend is running on the screen
[19:08] <superm1> vnc?
[19:09] <just1nj> not currently configured
[19:10] <just1nj> but from here is looks like it going ok, the system load is fine and the frontend is still running
[19:12] <just1nj> another quick question, how do i get totem from starting when a dvd is inserted
[19:12] <superm1> huh?
[19:12] <superm1> from starting?
[19:12] <tgm4883_laptop> just1nj, mythbuntu install?
[19:13] <just1nj> i think totem was configured to run when a dvd was insert before i got mythbuntu installed over the gusty base and not the removable media option seems to be gone in xfce
[19:14] <superm1> there is an option in the xfce settings menu
[19:14] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[19:15] <just1nj> with it "gone" is there some way to edit/remove a file somewhere else to make totem to stop being run
[19:15] <testergg> Hi, I just put a new capture card in with mythbuntu and saa7134 via dmesg but the picture is fuzzy (coax- channel=3) it's a proteus pro 2309 card=98 autodetected don't know what to check i need ntsc channel 3 for capturing - and I don't get any sound
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> try gnome-volume-properties
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> testergg, how fuzzy
[19:16] <testergg> tgm4883_laptop: very I have a tv next to it and it's crystal clear, this shows bands (vertical) with show in them very unclear
[19:29] <testergg> what tuner would anyone suggest for ntsc north america with this card?
[19:31] <superm1> what "tuner"?
[19:31] <superm1> what do you mean by that.
[19:38] <testergg> superm1: I read on the wiki that with these types of card you must configure it for a tuner that corresponds to your region and standard, I need ntsc
[19:39] <superm1> oh.  i haven't worked with any saa7134 cards myself.
[19:39] <superm1> sorry
[19:56] <pdragon> superm1: Here's a way to decorate your office  http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/10/livin-in-mario-world.html
[19:56] <superm1> pdragon, i do try embrace the name :)
[19:56] <superm1> i've got a mario doll in my car
[19:56] <superm1> and i had one at my office this summer
[19:59] <testergg> is a little fuzzy what I should expect or should it be crystal clear?
[20:00] <superm1> it is usually a little fuzzy
[20:00] <superm1> especially when comparing a computer monitor to a tv
[20:01] <superm1> if you hook up the computer to the tv, it will typically look better
[20:03] <testergg> ok so maybe I can't improve on what I get, I thought that with mythtv I could get a clear picutre, would this be better with a pvr-150 card?
[20:03] <superm1> the pvr-150 is higher quality yes
[20:03] <superm1> since its hardware encoding
[20:24] <therethinker> $mythbot
[20:27] <superm1> therethinker, so it died
[20:28] <superm1> did you figure out if it died in #mythbot too
[20:28] <therethinker> No, I wasn't there -- I was installing gutsy
[20:28] <therethinker> and it stayed alive overnight... when I wanted to to crash
[20:31] <reclusivemonke1> is anyone else having trouble getting listings from XMLTV in the UK? I don't seem to be able to get a response from the radio times website
[20:32] <Varka> hi
[20:33] <Varka> i cant get my hauppauge wintv dvb-s to scan for channels
[20:49] <tgm4883_laptop> $add spec
[20:49] <mythbot> Please write up a new specification for that here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/  We appreciate the ideas.  Without a blueprint, 99/100 it won't get done.
[20:49] <therethinker> "Without a blueprint, 99/100 it won't get done." what?
[20:50] <tgm4883_laptop> 99 times out of 100 it wont get doe
[20:50] <tgm4883_laptop> done
[20:50] <tgm4883_laptop> so you need a blueprint
[20:50] <therethinker> why not say 99% chance?
[20:50] <tgm4883_laptop> I did
[20:51] <tgm4883_laptop> $add spec
[20:51] <mythbot> Please write up a new specification for that here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/  We appreciate the ideas.  Without a blueprint, there is a 99% chance that it won't get done.
[20:51] <tgm4883_laptop> see
[20:51] <tgm4883_laptop> you're just crazy
[20:56] <tgm4883_laptop> $blueprints
[20:56] <mythbot> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/
[20:58] <DaveMorris> solarbaby: you been able to do that xboxfrontend stuff ?
[21:03] <DaveMorris> $bugs
[21:03] <mythbot> http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[21:05] <DaveMorris> $forums
[21:05] <mythbot> This is the Official Mythbuntu Forum http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301
[21:05] <therethinker>  restarting server
[21:08] <DaveMorris> $wiki
[21:08] <mythbot> http://wiki.mythbuntu.org
[21:08] <hugol1> One of my front-end crashed the other day and since then mythtv is not working perfectly. Sometimes it takes like 8-9 seconds to start live-tv and other anoying effects
[21:09] <hugol1> is somewhere in the database or other place where I can check for any corrupted configuration?¿
[21:09] <therethinker> $wiki
[21:09] <mythbot> Mythbuntu -- http://wiki.mythbuntu.org ; MythTV -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[21:09] <therethinker> okay, that works
[21:09] <DaveMorris> seems good
[21:09] <DaveMorris> 8-9 secs is how long mine takes
[21:10] <DaveMorris> as it takes the tv stream, saves it to disk, then passes the data of the disk to the frontend
[21:10] <DaveMorris> might still be a problem though
[21:11] <pdragon> mine only takes like 3, 4 seconds tops
[21:11]  * DaveMorris has a p450 for a backend though
[21:11] <pdragon> ahh
[21:11] <hugol1> DaveMorris:  it was doing it in 1-3 seconds before
[21:11] <pdragon> 2.8 celeron
[21:11] <tgm4883_laptop> I doubt it's happening in 1 second
[21:11] <pdragon> has to cache 2-3 seconds of tv beforehand at the least
[21:12] <tgm4883_laptop> MythTV devs say it writes 4 seconds to disk first
[21:12] <hugol1> tgm4883_laptop:  I can tell you it didnt take 4 seconds to watch live tv
[21:12] <hugol1> plus I can change channels in less than that time
[21:21] <hugol1> now when I watch live tv theres a gap of 23-25 seconds that I cant watch
[21:21] <hugol1> when I change into  a new channel it tells me taht I have been 23 seconds watching it allredy
[21:21] <hugol1> ....
[21:21] <hugol1> anyone know what setting can be wrong?
[21:24] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds like some database problems
[21:24] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[21:28] <hugol1> tgm4883_laptop:  is anything besides reinstalling that I can do?
[21:28] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[21:28] <hugol1> this weird things started happening after one of the front ends crashed
[21:29] <tgm4883_laptop> how long have you had it installed?
[21:29] <hugol1> I guess it left something wrong in the database
[21:29] <hugol1> 5 days more o less
[21:29] <hugol1> I reinstalled ubuntu 6 days ago
[21:29] <hugol1> instaleed gutsy
[21:29] <tgm4883_laptop> well you could try repairing the database, or importing a backup of the database
[21:30] <hugol1> tgm4883_laptop:  how do I repair the database?
[21:30] <hugol1> I didnt do any backup of the database and I guess mythtv doesnt do them automatically right?
[21:30] <DaveMorris> isn't there an option for reparing the database
[21:31] <DaveMorris> hugol1: it does, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581172
[21:31] <reclusivemonke1> is anyone else having trouble getting listings from XMLTV in the UK? I don't seem to be able to get a response from the radio times website
[21:31] <tgm4883_laptop> I had a database issue and ran the optimize tables on it from MCC
[21:32] <DaveMorris> sorry reclusivemonke1I use the EIT here in the UK
[21:32] <hugol1> DaveMorris:  Im cheking that link, but how do I go about repairing the actual database?
[21:34] <reclusivemonke1> $eit
[21:34] <hugol1> DaveMorris:  I didnt install mythbuntu, I installed Ubuntu gutsy desktop and installed the mythtv packets from synaptic. I dont think that way the backups are done right?
[21:34] <DaveMorris> superm1: ^^
[21:34] <superm1> backups are weekly
[21:34] <DaveMorris> reclusivemonke1: it's the free to air transmitted guide, 7 days worth
[21:34] <superm1> and automatic
[21:34] <DaveMorris> sometimes refered as EPG
[21:34] <DaveMorris> superm1: on ubuntu with mythtv as well?
[21:35] <superm1> yeah
[21:35] <reclusivemonke1> ah right. I don't get digital until 2011 where I live now :-S
[21:35] <hugol1> superm1:  where are this backups?
[21:35] <superm1> /var/backups i think
[21:35] <DaveMorris> reclusivemonke1: lives in the middle of nowhere
[21:35] <hugol1> ok Ill check thanks
[21:35] <DaveMorris> I'm guessing you need to log into the database manually and do a drop on the database, then import the sql dmp
[21:36] <hugol1> and how do I run the aplication to repair the databes?
[21:36] <hugol1> DaveMorris:  I am used to work with databases
[21:36] <DaveMorris> [IDEA] m-c-c provides easy restoration my database backups
[21:36] <hugol1> specially mysql
[21:36] <superm1> $spec
[21:36] <DaveMorris> you'll know what to do then :)
[21:36] <tgm4883_laptop> $add spec
[21:36] <hugol1> mcc is mythbuntu control center?
[21:36] <DaveMorris> $blueprints
[21:36] <DaveMorris> $blueprint
[21:36] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[21:37] <DaveMorris> hugol yes
[21:37] <pdragon> i saw that check box in MCC to run daily database maintenance. Is it good to check that anyway even if you're not having problems?
[21:37] <tgm4883_laptop> therethinker, tell DaveMorris $add spec
[21:37] <DaveMorris> $url
[21:37] <DaveMorris> stupid bot
[21:37] <hugol1> if I install mythbuntu control center will it change any configuration in my ubuntu computer besides any mythtv configuration?
[21:38] <superm1> bootsplash
[21:38] <superm1> that's about all you will see changed though
[21:39] <therethinker> $add spec
[21:39] <DaveMorris> someone already did the spec - https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/backup-restore
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> therethinker, does mythbot autojoin?
[21:39] <therethinker> What?
[21:39] <hugolp> ok thanks
[21:39] <tgm4883_laptop> this channel
[21:40] <therethinker> $mythbot
[21:40] <therethinker> No, it connects
[21:40] <therethinker> Ah, its dead!
[21:40] <therethinker> Its about to crash!
[21:40] <tgm4883_laptop> i was just wondering what would happen if we kicked it
[21:40] <therethinker> That means I can get some test data...
[21:40] <hugolp> shit
[21:41] <tgm4883_laptop> ?
[21:41] <hugolp> it only keeps one database back-up and it was done today
[21:41] <therethinker> Whoo!
[21:41] <therethinker> It quit at the same time on both!
[21:41] <DaveMorris> hugolp I think we need to file a bug on that 1 then
[21:42] <DaveMorris> $bugs
[21:42] <mythbot> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/+packagebugs
[21:42] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  is suposed to behave in a different way?
[21:42] <superm1> hugolp, no it uses rotations
[21:42] <frank_> The mythtv backend setup in gutsy is not doing the mythfilldatabase when I click yes at the prompy
[21:42] <tgm4883_laptop> hugolp, no it should do a few at lease
[21:42] <hugolp> rotations?
[21:42] <frank_> prompt*
[21:42] <DaveMorris> well, personally I'd like to see more than 1 backup
[21:42] <superm1> it will make more than one backup
[21:42] <superm1> i dont know how that's handled
[21:42] <tgm4883_laptop> DaveMorris, there is more than one backup
[21:42] <superm1> but it does
[21:42] <tgm4883_laptop> looks like it makes 5 backups
[21:43] <tgm4883_laptop> 1 per week
[21:43] <hugolp> and I didnt think it was important but now that Im here, mythbackend setup sometimes starts at a console sometime it doesnt
[21:43] <tgm4883_laptop> so it could make more, 5 weeks ago sounds like when i installed
[21:44] <frank_> I'm doing the mythfilldatabase manualy but the automated way after you setup the backend doesn't work
[21:47] <frank_> can anyone confirm?
[21:49] <hugolp> it works here
[21:50] <frank_> hugolp: maybe it's because I'm running kubuntu....?
[21:51] <hugolp> not very probable but I guess it could be
[21:52] <frank_> not sure what to do to find the problem.
[22:41]  * DaveMorris risks been killed by upgrading his frontend to gutsy
[22:43] <therethinker> I've been writing programs to write sonnets...
[22:43] <therethinker> its... interesting :P
[22:45] <reclusivemonke1> therethinker: stanzas or it doesn't exist ;-)
[22:45] <therethinker> http://zbanks.mine.nu:8080/test.html#
[22:46] <therethinker> http://pastebin.org/5361 --sample
[22:46] <therethinker> it only knows about 50 words or so :p
[22:47] <reclusivemonke1> lol they all seem a little freudian!
[22:49] <therethinker> reclusivemonke1, hehe, they're not *that* bad, as far as computer-generated talk goes
[22:49] <reclusivemonke1> certainly shows promise
[22:50] <therethinker> Yeah... its based on a recursive sentence generator I wrote... I took out a ton of features that tended to make sentances too long (dep. clauses, compound sent, etc)
[22:50] <therethinker> Sonnets are hard, because they're so long :p
[22:51] <DaveMorris> therethinker: you do this for work?
[22:51] <therethinker> Err... no :P
[22:51] <reclusivemonke1> is there a purpose behind it all? (besides the obvious)
[22:51] <therethinker> No, not really. I'm interested in this stuff...
[22:51] <DaveMorris> there is a natural language group at work who I know a few people of
[22:51] <therethinker> There was a small section in GEB:EGB that inspired me...
[22:52] <therethinker> DaveMorris: I've been talking about it on swhack... I found them from the phenny bot, and this fits in to the topic of their channel...
[22:56] <therethinker> haikus are easier... and make a bit more sense:THE DOG: A dog is a dog./My smelly cow is on a key./A cat is my mouse.