[00:05] $ubotu [00:05] Ubotu is my older brother. I know much more about MythTV than he does, but he knows more about Ubuntu. [00:05] IS DEAD! [00:05] Mythbot rulz [00:14] $slap ubotu [00:14] /me slaps ubotu [00:27] Need help with HDHomerun card [00:32] HDHomerun will not show up for capture cards config with terminal OK [01:01] how copy?? [01:08] I got my Hauppauge 150 Today, and it worked right off the bat; only took a couple of seconds to configure, unlike the ADS PTV-150. I have one problem, however. The schedule guide is off by two channels. The listings are accurate, but pushed up two channels (ie channel 4 is in the 6 slot, 5 in the 7 slot, ect.) How can I correct this? [01:08] PTV-305, I mean. [01:09] I'm using schedulesdirect. [01:56] $mythbot [01:56] Hi! I know a lot about MythTV! I can also do things like look stuff up on wikipedia. To see what I know, use $. To learn more about me, say $help. [01:58] therethinker, why does mythbot die a lot? [01:59] Well... it has... [01:59] nevermind, I thought you asked "does it die a lot"... missed the why [02:00] I'm not quite sure... do you mind if I run the unmodified phenny bot in here, that way if I can figure out if its the channel, or my modifications? [02:01] I won't poke it or anything... I can't say that for tgm... [02:02] therethinker, well [02:03] what if its the channel [02:03] why would it be the channel [02:03] Maybe it has something to do with Chan serv or something... [02:03] Its always timeout errors... [02:05] perhaps your intarweb? [02:06] I wonder if there some way I can test that... [02:06] Because It's gone out when my nets is fine, and the server is inbetween me and the nets [02:07] can you run him elsewhere? [02:38] * therethinker hoped no one noticed... [02:40] therethinker, so can you run him elsewhere? [02:40] Hmm... I might try tomorrow, I gotta go no [02:40] *now [02:40] o [02:40] ok [02:41] its in #mythbot -- I'll see if it dies at the same time [02:41] okay cool [02:41] good idea [02:41] I bet $20 that it won't die tonight -- because I *want* it to die :P [02:41] $infect mythbot [02:41] /me takes control of mythbot's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it. [02:42] now it will die, in 20 minutes :P [02:45] $help [02:45] Hi, I'm mythbot! You can pick my brain by using $. (See also: $source, $cmdhelp) [02:46] $ati hdtv wonder [02:46] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "ati hdtv", sorry. [02:46] $cable hrc irc [02:46] Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "cable hrc", sorry. [02:47] i dont think he knows multi word statements [02:47] have to check with therethinker on that though [04:23] anyone here? [04:25] hello rhpot1991 [04:26] know anything about using the edit feature on a video? [04:26] or where the cut list is stored [04:26] i think it's in the database [04:26] I was messing around and made a backup of my file [04:26] but its still skipping it [04:26] so I need to delete the cut list [04:27] it's skipping what? [04:27] the end of the show [04:27] I didn't know what I was doing [04:27] and was using a monocrome osd on top of that [04:27] so its nice and messed up :) [04:28] well just go end and delete the last cutpoint [04:28] did that, still missing it [04:29] I said to remove the data after it, and apparently it isn't reversed by removing the cut point [04:29] thats odd [04:29] let me double check [04:29] cause it doesn't actually rip the comercial out till you transcode right? [04:30] right [04:31] actually, its here [04:31] my bad [04:41] man it did a terrible job finding comercials here [04:41] if I pause a job will the next one in the queue start? [04:53] * tgm4883 shrugs [04:53] after about 10 minutes of waiting I assumed no [04:53] so I am waiting for it to finish out [05:04] how do i tell mythtv to run jobs? for some reason its not running my jobs, and they are just queueing up [05:04] there is an option in the backend config [05:04] to enable a job [05:04] I had the same problem the other day [05:06] backend config eh? [05:06] know where offhand? [05:08] looking [05:08] general [05:08] then about 7 pages in [05:08] "Allow 'User Job #1' jobs" [05:08] found it [05:08] and so on [05:08] thanks [05:08] :) [05:09] now will they jsut start? [05:09] 7 pages in.. heh. :) aint that the truth.. [05:09] I think mine did [05:09] 'now where did i see that setting at.....' [05:09] without having to delete and rerun [05:09] by default it will only run one job at once too [05:10] what kind of jobs are you running? [05:10] encode to xvid [05:11] are you removing the commercials first? [05:11] im flagging them, then having them removed during encode...i believe [05:12] or, trying [05:12] I think you need to convert the flags to cut lists first [05:12] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Removing_Commercials [05:12] i don't even know if i have nuvexport installed correctly to do this tho [05:12] I have been messing with the script on that page [05:12] my flagging hasn't been all that accurate though [05:15] my flagging has been pretty accurate [05:15] mine is for certain shows [05:16] but seemed to screw up everything on nbc tonight [05:16] CSI? [05:16] law and order? [05:16] don't record either of those [05:16] I have tested a lot with the daily show and colbert report, works well on those [05:16] works good on heroes and chuck [05:16] my 2 main shows :) [05:16] don't record anything on nbc tonight? [05:17] i didn't record anything since heroes [05:17] I enabled strict comm detecting too [05:17] that was monday [05:17] lol [05:17] cause my wife was yelling about it not always working on her soap opera [05:17] which, as far as I know, it does well now [05:17] haha, i banned anyone from touching my box and putting a soap opera on it [05:18] heh, I have 2 backends, one in my "office" and one in the living room [05:19] I set the slave one up to record shows for her [05:19] i would still ban soaps [05:19] gave me a good reason to waste money on hardware and mess around [05:19] it only keeps 1, so its not filling my hd's up with junk or anything [05:19] though I do understand [05:20] now i need to figure out if i have nuvexport installed...and get that working....on top of everything else [05:21] I used ffmpeg to encode for ipod [05:22] hmmm, this didn't do what it was supposed to at all [05:22] only script i could find to encode to xvid was a nuvexport script. but it uses ffmpeg [05:23] guess the remove commercial script erased my cut list [05:27] well, im tired of working on computers tonight. ill play more with this tomorrow [05:30] note to self, rm and mv not the same [05:30] almost did something bad [05:32] haha [06:15] hmmmm, anyone else have mythfrontend locking up when they edit a recording? [06:16] 2007-10-19 01:15:16.408 NVP::AddAudioData():p1: Audio buffer overflow, audio data lost! [06:16] 2007-10-19 01:15:16.408 AddInheritence past F NOT in used or in done. ALLDDaDP [06:16] getting a whole lot of that [06:18] How do you add a noise filter to TV recordings if your signal is not all that great. Can you apply it either at recording time or playback time? [06:20] The DVD recorder I just replaced used to look better than watching TV live because of some filter they applied. [06:22] I must have been more than deinterlacing, because that's not doing the trick. [07:52] Looks like quickdnr or denoise3d are what I'm looking for. I can barely manage quickdnr as a playback filter, and denoise3d is way to much for my cpu to to in realtime. Can you use a transcoder to an MPEG2 file and not change anything about the format except applying custom filters like denoise3d? [07:52] too much [07:54] and have the transcoders only work on the files during idle time. [08:04] I think I found what I need. There is quite a bit to learn to use mythtv most effectively. === MythbuntuGuest67 is now known as stevetv [11:35] $mythbot [11:35] Hi! I know a lot about MythTV! I can also do things like look stuff up on wikipedia. To see what I know, use $. To learn more about me, say $help. [11:35] of course, he didn't die [11:35] Now I'm going to :P [14:42] any clues on the mythtv-multi-rec branch? [14:42] status ie [15:55] I've got a question. i have two tuner cards built into my mythbuntu box. a pvr150 and an old bttv based card. my problem is, that when i boot the machine, the cards are assigned the video devices randomly. so the pvr is sometimes /dev/video0 and sometimes /dev/video1 (and the other card vica verse). how can i make sure, that the ivtv-based card is always /dev/video? [15:57] sorry, the ivtv card should alway be /dev/video0 [16:26] drunken-wallaby: I have the same problem [16:26] I know the devs are aware of this problem but dont know if its solved yet [16:27] you could always mess with udev [16:28] or you could force loading a driver in /etc/modules, which means the other card gets assigned during autodetection, which is a different time to manual module loading [16:30] directhex|work: if I force loading a driver in /etc/modules that gets done before or after autodetection? Im guessing before === MythbuntuGuest74 is now known as justinj === justinj is now known as just1nj [17:21] anyone alive [17:22] barely [17:22] i hear ya [17:23] i am having a problem with getting mythfrontend to autostart properly [17:24] i'm not a dev, but can try my best. brand new install? [17:24] wondering if it is a bug or something else, i installed ubuntu gusty via the alternate install cd to get my software raid working and have mythbuntu more and less working, [17:25] does it start and work fine if you manually tell it to start? [17:25] it just that when mythfrontend in configured to autostart the auto login hangs at the "autostart" part and never finishes the log, [17:25] ya work fine manually [17:26] but then its autostarted the box eventually crashes hard when the load gets too high [17:26] it looks like to many mythfrontend are getting forked [17:27] hmm... bit beyond me sorry [17:27] superm1 or tgm4883 may be able to be more help if they come around [17:27] righto [17:28] that just paged them, so if they're around and available they should respond [17:29] k [18:12] how do you switch workspaces in mythbuntu? [18:13] StrawberryAngel1: I would think, the same way you would in XFCE or Xubuntu [18:13] xfce is new to me [18:13] so how do i? [18:14] StrawberryAngel1: I don't know - maybe ask in #xubuntu, or I can have a play later [18:14] Sorry i can't help more [18:14] ok [18:16] StrawberryAngel1: ctrl+alt+arrow keys (left and right) [18:16] thank you [18:20] just1nj, still need help? [18:25] ya [18:25] autostarting mythfrontend at login is crashing my box [18:26] if you do not autostart it and run it from the menu it works fine [18:27] just1nj, mythbuntu's xfce session? [18:27] or is this a gnome session? [18:27] ya [18:27] can you checkout ~/.xsession-errors [18:27] and /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log? [18:27] and see if either tells a tale about this? [18:28] wait the ya, was that meant for ya mythbuntu xfce? [18:28] or gnome [18:28] correct [18:28] lol [18:28] xfce or gnome, which one [18:29] xfce [18:30] ah okay. [18:30] well pastebin those two logs [18:30] and we can start there [18:30] so you installed a bit of a non standard way you say? [18:31] ya i used the gusty alternate install cd to install gusty with software raid and then did the mythbuntu install [18:32] ah i see [18:33] no lvm/raid support is kinda limiting [18:33] most things are working fine [18:33] yeah at uds i'm going to talk to ubiquity guys about lvm support [18:33] just1nj: it's in the works [18:39] the old router i have running as a client bridge until i get wireless internal working on that box is being flaky again cutting out on it which makes doing things out of the house harder [18:40] and nothing in the .xsession-errors is older than today [18:41] its made when you log in [18:41] so you have to activate the automatic login/startup [18:41] and then look at it [18:42] something i dont like doing remotely incase something gets dorks up in reboot [18:43] well you can just issue a /etc/init.d/gdm restart [18:43] remotely via ssh [19:01] box seems to be responsive again, what is the entry for starting the frontend suppsosed to be in .config/autostart [19:01] a symlink [19:02] to /usr/share/mythtv/applications/mythtv.desktop [19:03] shouldnt that be /usr/share/applications/mythtv.desktop [19:03] did i type that wrong? [19:04] oh yeah [19:04] yeah that's right [19:04] my mistake [19:05] hrm [19:05] there a error about thunar-volman not being installed that i took care of before restarting gdm [19:06] anything else though? [19:06] says it cant find /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore [19:06] dont worry about htat [19:07] things about starting myth is what you want to see [19:07] system load isnt running away [19:08] and only one instance of mythfrontend.real appears to be running [19:08] so its fine? [19:08] but i am at work and cant actually see if the frontend is running on the screen [19:08] vnc? [19:09] not currently configured [19:10] but from here is looks like it going ok, the system load is fine and the frontend is still running [19:12] another quick question, how do i get totem from starting when a dvd is inserted [19:12] huh? [19:12] from starting? [19:12] just1nj, mythbuntu install? [19:13] i think totem was configured to run when a dvd was insert before i got mythbuntu installed over the gusty base and not the removable media option seems to be gone in xfce [19:14] there is an option in the xfce settings menu [19:14] yea [19:15] with it "gone" is there some way to edit/remove a file somewhere else to make totem to stop being run [19:15] Hi, I just put a new capture card in with mythbuntu and saa7134 via dmesg but the picture is fuzzy (coax- channel=3) it's a proteus pro 2309 card=98 autodetected don't know what to check i need ntsc channel 3 for capturing - and I don't get any sound [19:15] try gnome-volume-properties [19:15] testergg, how fuzzy [19:16] tgm4883_laptop: very I have a tv next to it and it's crystal clear, this shows bands (vertical) with show in them very unclear [19:29] what tuner would anyone suggest for ntsc north america with this card? [19:31] what "tuner"? [19:31] what do you mean by that. [19:38] superm1: I read on the wiki that with these types of card you must configure it for a tuner that corresponds to your region and standard, I need ntsc [19:39] oh. i haven't worked with any saa7134 cards myself. [19:39] sorry [19:56] superm1: Here's a way to decorate your office http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2007/10/livin-in-mario-world.html [19:56] pdragon, i do try embrace the name :) [19:56] i've got a mario doll in my car [19:56] and i had one at my office this summer [19:59] is a little fuzzy what I should expect or should it be crystal clear? [20:00] it is usually a little fuzzy [20:00] especially when comparing a computer monitor to a tv [20:01] if you hook up the computer to the tv, it will typically look better [20:03] ok so maybe I can't improve on what I get, I thought that with mythtv I could get a clear picutre, would this be better with a pvr-150 card? [20:03] the pvr-150 is higher quality yes [20:03] since its hardware encoding [20:24] $mythbot [20:27] therethinker, so it died [20:28] did you figure out if it died in #mythbot too [20:28] No, I wasn't there -- I was installing gutsy [20:28] and it stayed alive overnight... when I wanted to to crash [20:31] is anyone else having trouble getting listings from XMLTV in the UK? I don't seem to be able to get a response from the radio times website [20:32] hi [20:33] i cant get my hauppauge wintv dvb-s to scan for channels [20:49] $add spec [20:49] Please write up a new specification for that here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ We appreciate the ideas. Without a blueprint, 99/100 it won't get done. [20:49] "Without a blueprint, 99/100 it won't get done." what? [20:50] 99 times out of 100 it wont get doe [20:50] done [20:50] so you need a blueprint [20:50] why not say 99% chance? [20:50] I did [20:51] $add spec [20:51] Please write up a new specification for that here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ We appreciate the ideas. Without a blueprint, there is a 99% chance that it won't get done. [20:51] see [20:51] you're just crazy [20:56] $blueprints [20:56] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ [20:58] solarbaby: you been able to do that xboxfrontend stuff ? [21:03] $bugs [21:03] http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu [21:05] $forums [21:05] This is the Official Mythbuntu Forum http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301 [21:05] restarting server [21:08] $wiki [21:08] http://wiki.mythbuntu.org [21:08] One of my front-end crashed the other day and since then mythtv is not working perfectly. Sometimes it takes like 8-9 seconds to start live-tv and other anoying effects [21:09] is somewhere in the database or other place where I can check for any corrupted configuration?¿ [21:09] $wiki [21:09] Mythbuntu -- http://wiki.mythbuntu.org ; MythTV -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV [21:09] okay, that works [21:09] seems good [21:09] 8-9 secs is how long mine takes [21:10] as it takes the tv stream, saves it to disk, then passes the data of the disk to the frontend [21:10] might still be a problem though [21:11] mine only takes like 3, 4 seconds tops [21:11] * DaveMorris has a p450 for a backend though [21:11] ahh [21:11] DaveMorris: it was doing it in 1-3 seconds before [21:11] 2.8 celeron [21:11] I doubt it's happening in 1 second [21:11] has to cache 2-3 seconds of tv beforehand at the least [21:12] MythTV devs say it writes 4 seconds to disk first [21:12] tgm4883_laptop: I can tell you it didnt take 4 seconds to watch live tv [21:12] plus I can change channels in less than that time [21:21] now when I watch live tv theres a gap of 23-25 seconds that I cant watch [21:21] when I change into a new channel it tells me taht I have been 23 seconds watching it allredy [21:21] .... [21:21] anyone know what setting can be wrong? [21:24] sounds like some database problems [21:24] hmm [21:28] tgm4883_laptop: is anything besides reinstalling that I can do? [21:28] yea [21:28] this weird things started happening after one of the front ends crashed [21:29] how long have you had it installed? [21:29] I guess it left something wrong in the database [21:29] 5 days more o less [21:29] I reinstalled ubuntu 6 days ago [21:29] instaleed gutsy [21:29] well you could try repairing the database, or importing a backup of the database [21:30] tgm4883_laptop: how do I repair the database? [21:30] I didnt do any backup of the database and I guess mythtv doesnt do them automatically right? [21:30] isn't there an option for reparing the database [21:31] hugol1: it does, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581172 [21:31] is anyone else having trouble getting listings from XMLTV in the UK? I don't seem to be able to get a response from the radio times website [21:31] I had a database issue and ran the optimize tables on it from MCC [21:32] sorry reclusivemonke1I use the EIT here in the UK [21:32] DaveMorris: Im cheking that link, but how do I go about repairing the actual database? [21:34] $eit [21:34] DaveMorris: I didnt install mythbuntu, I installed Ubuntu gutsy desktop and installed the mythtv packets from synaptic. I dont think that way the backups are done right? [21:34] superm1: ^^ [21:34] backups are weekly [21:34] reclusivemonke1: it's the free to air transmitted guide, 7 days worth [21:34] and automatic [21:34] sometimes refered as EPG [21:34] superm1: on ubuntu with mythtv as well? [21:35] yeah [21:35] ah right. I don't get digital until 2011 where I live now :-S [21:35] superm1: where are this backups? [21:35] /var/backups i think [21:35] reclusivemonke1: lives in the middle of nowhere [21:35] ok Ill check thanks [21:35] I'm guessing you need to log into the database manually and do a drop on the database, then import the sql dmp [21:36] and how do I run the aplication to repair the databes? [21:36] DaveMorris: I am used to work with databases [21:36] [IDEA] m-c-c provides easy restoration my database backups [21:36] specially mysql [21:36] $spec [21:36] you'll know what to do then :) [21:36] $add spec [21:36] mcc is mythbuntu control center? [21:36] $blueprints [21:36] $blueprint [21:36] :( [21:37] hugol yes [21:37] i saw that check box in MCC to run daily database maintenance. Is it good to check that anyway even if you're not having problems? [21:37] therethinker, tell DaveMorris $add spec [21:37] $url [21:37] stupid bot [21:37] if I install mythbuntu control center will it change any configuration in my ubuntu computer besides any mythtv configuration? [21:38] bootsplash [21:38] that's about all you will see changed though [21:39] $add spec [21:39] someone already did the spec - https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/backup-restore [21:39] therethinker, does mythbot autojoin? [21:39] What? [21:39] ok thanks [21:39] this channel [21:40] $mythbot [21:40] No, it connects [21:40] Ah, its dead! [21:40] Its about to crash! [21:40] i was just wondering what would happen if we kicked it [21:40] That means I can get some test data... [21:40] shit [21:41] ? [21:41] it only keeps one database back-up and it was done today [21:41] Whoo! [21:41] It quit at the same time on both! [21:41] hugolp I think we need to file a bug on that 1 then [21:42] $bugs [21:42] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/+packagebugs [21:42] DaveMorris: is suposed to behave in a different way? [21:42] hugolp, no it uses rotations [21:42] The mythtv backend setup in gutsy is not doing the mythfilldatabase when I click yes at the prompy [21:42] hugolp, no it should do a few at lease [21:42] rotations? [21:42] prompt* [21:42]