[00:01] <gnomefreak> LjL: can you have ubotwo join #u-r-p
[00:01] <LjL> did it already
[00:02] <gnomefreak> ty
[00:04] <PriceChild> ouch
[00:04] <PriceChild> It should sort itself out now at least.
[00:04] <gnomefreak> LjL: when /msg ubotwo mirrors why does it give me mirrors is not a command?
[00:05] <gnomefreak> than outputs the mirrors fact
[00:05] <LjL> gnomefreak: little bug, but it only happens in pm so i'm not bothering to look at it
[00:05] <gnomefreak> ok cool didnt know if you knew
[00:05] <LjL> (besides, one of these days we're going to have synced ubotus, so i'm not bothering to look at anything at all)
[00:07] <LjL> i don't like "excess flood"
[00:07] <gnomefreak> when are we closing u-r-p
[00:07] <gnomefreak> LjL: lol
[00:07] <LjL> gnomefreak: leave it open for a while still... at least some more 12 hours
[00:13] <PriceChild> Hey winbond, how can I help?
[00:13]  * gnomefreak wonders if he is asleep how did he reboot bot
[00:13] <gnomefreak> ;)
[00:14] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, He doesn't... its on a cron that checks if its running, and if not, restarts it.
[00:14] <winbond> can someone unban me from ubuntu now?
[00:14] <gnomefreak> ah
[00:14] <PriceChild> winbond, one moment please.
[00:14] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[00:14] <gnomefreak> its lagging but fixed
[00:15] <PriceChild> winbond, could you tell me what the channel #ubuntu is for?
[00:16] <winbond> ubuntu support?
[00:16] <PriceChild> correct.
[00:16] <PriceChild> It is not for random questions about freenode :)
[00:17] <PriceChild> winbond, please see /msg ubotu guidelines, and you may rejoin #ubuntu
[00:17] <winbond> PriceChild, ok , thank you,  i was aking for servers because the irc is lagging for me really badly
[00:19] <LjL> winbond: type !etiquette, !guidelines and !coc in a private query with ubotu. please make very sure that you respect all of that. attitudes like that one you showed in here, a couple of weeks ago, aren't acceptable no matter how upset you are. keep that in mind.
[00:21] <winbond> !etiquette
[00:21] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[00:21] <LjL> in a *private query with ubotu*
[00:21] <LjL> type /query ubotu
[00:24] <LjL> sigh bot's lagging again
[00:24] <LjL> i suspect someone's playing with it, excess flood isn't too normal
[00:25] <winbond> so is there any other way to access the channels, because i get too much lag when connected to freenode
[00:26] <LjL> !test
[00:26] <LjL> winbond: no, the channels *are* on freenode.
[00:26] <LjL> gnomefreak: ^
[00:27] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[00:27] <gnomefreak> !mirrots
[00:28] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[00:28] <winbond> ok thanks
[00:28] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[00:28] <mneptok> !secret download
[00:28] <LjL> winbond: you don't seem lagged now though.
[00:28] <gnomefreak> he did die again
[00:28] <LjL> told you so :)
[00:28] <gnomefreak> damn bot
[00:28] <gnomefreak> ;
[00:28] <gnomefreak> )
[00:28] <gnomefreak> worked for me for a minute
[00:28] <mneptok> gnomefreak: your face seems to be coming apart
[00:29] <gnomefreak> :)
[00:29] <LjL> please clean your bans in #ubuntu-offtopic - banlist full
[00:30] <LjL> and cchance joined right after i said that.
[00:30] <LjL> so interesting.
[00:31] <LjL> winbond: anything else we can help you with?
[00:32] <winbond> no thats it,  right now seems ok , but most of the time i get like 30 second lags and then i disconnect
[00:32] <LjL> winbond: take note of the server you're using now (type /whois winbond ) - perhaps it works better than others for you.
[00:33] <PriceChild> think its ok to remove the *!*@*.desm.qwest.net ban.... set since august... and its quite a big one? :/
[00:34] <LjL> yikes.
[00:34] <LjL> yes.
[00:34] <winbond> ok , thanks 
[00:34] <LjL> PriceChild: april actually not august... (in -offtopic)
[00:35] <LjL> seems like some troll who could change very many addresses
[00:35] <PriceChild> wow :/
[00:35] <Madpilot> just nuked a bunch of old bans, some mine, some other peoples, in -offtopic
[00:35] <LjL> but that blanket ban is a bit...
[00:35] <LjL> Madpilot, it was your ban, remember what it was about?
[00:35] <Madpilot> no
[00:36] <Madpilot> some persistant troll, I guess
[00:36] <LjL> Madpilot: i suppose so, i think we can just keep that mask as a highlight
[00:36] <Madpilot> should be good
[00:37] <Madpilot> back later. need food
[00:38] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: now that gutsy portion of forums closed the threads where will they end up if it happens still
[00:39]  * gnomefreak hasnt been there but im hearing about them atm and asac wanted to know
[00:39] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, what do you mean? what happens still?
[00:40] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: from my understanding gutsy part of forums all threads were closed
[00:40] <PriceChild> yes
[00:40] <PriceChild> the subform was archived: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=237
[00:40] <gnomefreak> will they be reopened moved re wrote 
[00:40] <gnomefreak> if problem still is there
[00:41] <PriceChild> If you want a thread recovered, please click the "REPORT" button top right of the first post in the thread and request it be moved.
[00:41] <PriceChild> That... or pm me quick before I go to bed :)
[00:41] <gnomefreak> it wont happen  tonight but ill let them know about report
[00:42] <jdong> we generally blanket-close development forums by the time the final version comes out, and users who have read the stickies should probably be aware of that.... if a discussion needs to continue users are welcome to PM or report or contact the staff via any other medium they choose
[00:43] <mneptok> feel free to share this with friends/family that want .torrents - http://montreal.canonical.com/torrents
[00:46] <LjL> mneptok: what, are the main servers so full one can't even reach a torrent file?
[00:46] <mneptok> LjL: yup
[00:46] <LjL> mneptok: but surely some of the country mirrors will work, hopefully most of them?!
[00:47] <mneptok> LjL: good luck. a lot of them are absolutely hammered.
[00:47] <jdong> torrents are already on demonoid, isohunt, and most of those torrent search engines
[00:47] <jdong> if those are ever hammered then the internet is screwed
[00:47] <LjL> mneptok: uhm, the se.* mirror that i put in the -release-party topic works for me
[00:47] <mneptok> jdong: being on Demonoid doesn't help Canadians
[00:47] <PriceChild> mneptok, there's a canadian viewer isn't there?
[00:47] <jdong> mneptok: oh yeah, that's right!
[00:48]  * jdong points and laughs at mneptok , then ducks
[00:48] <PriceChild> I guess I misunderstood "http://www.demonoid.cc/"
[00:48]  * mneptok points and laughs at the CRIA, gestures at the decades old concept of a "proxy server," and returns to his IP theft.
[00:50] <LjL> ubot3: bug 1
[00:50] <ubot3> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[00:55] <Jucato> LjL: excuse me, is #ubuntu-effects is still open? what has been the decision? where should I redirect #kubuntu users? am I asking too many questions? :)
[00:56] <LjL> Jucato: it's closed, redirects to #compiz-fusion, sorry for the confusion, i don't know, yes :)
[00:56] <Jucato> oh ok thanks... :)
[00:56] <LjL> redirect them where you prefer
[00:57] <LjL> well, that is, to #compiz-fusion
[00:57] <Jucato> well I redirect them to -effects, thinking it wasn't closed based on the last e-mail...
[00:57] <LjL> or just reply in #kubuntu
[00:57] <LjL> Jucato: yeah well not too much harm done, they got forwarded to #compiz-fusion
[00:57] <Jucato> are the #compiz-fusion ok with helping support Kubuntu Gutsy users?
[00:58] <LjL> Jucato: pricechild is an operator there
[00:58]  * Jucato inserts "people" before "ok"
[00:58] <Jucato> yeah he just quit though :P
[00:58] <LjL> Jucato: well, that means the answer is "yes" ;)
[00:58] <LjL> at least i hope
[00:58] <Jucato> I hope so too. well.. good luck to them! :D
[01:00] <Jucato> welcome back our beloved ubotu! :)
[01:02] <LjL> Jucato: i don't think so...
[01:02] <Jucato> it ain't back yet? :(
[01:02] <LjL> yay, seveas too
[01:02] <LjL> Jucato: i think it'll just excess flood again
[01:02] <LjL> already done it twice
[01:02] <Jucato> rawr!
[01:02] <LjL> i'm keeping it muted for the time being
[01:03] <Jucato> we probably need to address that for the next releases. if there's something we could do  in the first place :)
[01:03] <LjL> Jucato: well, we're waiting for seveas to put the automatic bot backup mechanism in place
[01:04] <LjL> which will also result in making ubotwo work with all commands, unlike now
[01:05] <LjL> hm, ubotu *seems* to be kind of working this time... let's hope so... i'll unmute in a minute when he's finished joining everywhere
[01:06] <LjL> Jucato: i thought i had put ubotwo in #kubuntu, sorry
[01:07] <Jucato> no prob :)
[01:40] <ubotu> In #ubuntuforums-beginners, overdrank said: ubotu what is up
[01:41] <mneptok> http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/14519/facebook_to_roll_out_more_member_protection
[01:41] <mneptok> i always roll out some member protection before being intimate
[01:42] <Madpilot> yomakb
[01:42] <Madpilot> bastard
[01:44] <mneptok> yomakb?
[01:44] <Pici> yo ma kb
[01:44] <mneptok> what about your keyboard?
[01:50] <jdong> probably how an IRC staffer's consersations with parents go
[01:50] <jdong>  /j; yo ma!; /kb :)
[01:51] <Madpilot> you owe me a keyboard
[01:52] <Madpilot> ie, I had a mouthful of drink when I read that
[01:56] <jdong> lol :)
[02:00] <Madpilot> 15min until the 7.10 alt torrent is done. shiny
[02:18] <LjL> ubotu seems unresponsive again, i've joined ubotwo but i'll have to go to bed in a short while
[02:28] <Jucato> both bots replied in #kubuntu :)
[02:30] <jdong> Jucato: yep :)
[02:33] <crdlb> Could someone delete or fix !ubuntu-effects if ubotu is feeling better now?
[02:34] <jdong> !ubuntu-effects
[02:34] <ubotu> For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.
[02:34] <Pici> !-effects
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <crdlb> as it no longer exists :)
[02:34] <jdong> crdlb: where do you suggest we send people to?
[02:34] <Pici> jdong: we're sending them to #compiz-fusion
[02:34] <crdlb> it should mention #ubuntu and #compiz-fusion
[02:35] <jdong> mmkay
[02:35] <crdlb> yeah it forwards to #compiz-fusion now
[02:35] <jdong> then work, ye minions :)
[02:35]  * jdong ducks
[02:35] <crdlb> also there are a bunch of channel-specific factoids that are a bit useless now
[02:35] <ubotu> kitche called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:35] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:36] <Pici> Madpilot: hm. I need to fix my kickban alias
[02:36] <crdlb> honest nick...
[02:36] <Madpilot> you kicked, but the ban didn't take effect - I got that. Odd.
[02:36]  * Jucato still doesn't fully agree with the whole redirect thing unless #compiz-fusion people have signified that they're willing to support *buntu-specific questions...
[02:36] <Pici> Ah, I got a channel sync error
[02:37] <crdlb> Jucato, well we already do
[02:37] <crdlb> not sure it's a great idea though
[02:37] <crdlb> seems like +m'ing the channel and putting something descriptive in the topic would work just as well
[02:37] <Jucato> crdlb: yeah I know that it redirects now. already sent my thoughts to our mailing list before
[02:37] <crdlb> Jucato, I mean we already take 99% ubuntu questions :)
[02:38] <Jucato> aaah ok :)
[02:38] <Jucato> thank you for that :)
[02:38] <Jucato> but you might get more *kubuntu* questions the next few days
[02:38] <Jucato> or weeks... or until we sort things out
[02:38] <Pici> ubotu: forget ubuntu-effects
[02:38] <ubotu> I'll forget that, Pici
[02:42] <Pici> !compiz
[02:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:20] <Madpilot> is -release-party still open?
[03:21] <Pici> Yep
[03:21] <crdlb> the party is just getting started :o
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> anyone know why the Xubuntu alternate is so much bigger than the desktop?
[03:31] <Tm_T> Amaranth: I agree with Myrtti in what she said about your 'joke', FYI
[03:45] <ubotu> Atalanta called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:48] <Madpilot> Atalanta, we had a long discussion pre-release about new groups, temp. channels, etc
[03:48] <Madpilot> decided that #ubuntu worked OK, basically
[03:50]  * tonyyarusso wonders why people factoid immediately after you !factoid | people them.....
[03:50] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, because people do not pay attention.
[03:50] <Pici> I don't think we'll ever know.
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I guess....
[03:51] <crdlb> tonyyarusso, people also try to run them ;)
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> crdlb: that is entertaining
[03:51] <crdlb> bash: !ubuntu: event not found
[03:51] <crdlb> help help help
[03:51] <Madpilot> heh
[04:26] <jdong> tritium: you wanna set a ban on unagi's nick altogether?
[04:26] <tritium> jdong: perhaps I should
[04:27] <tritium> Let's see if he acts up
[04:27] <jdong> yeah
[04:27] <jdong> he seems to think somehow that just because his IP changes it's not ban evading :)
[04:27] <jdong> boy I love troll logic :)
[04:27] <tritium> lol
[04:29] <Madpilot> trolls do logic?
[04:30] <tritium> Crazy trolls.
[04:32] <cdm10> Is unagi somehow changing IPs?
[04:32] <jdong> yes...
[04:32] <tritium> yes
[04:32] <jdong> he apparently has some sort of GPRS or PPP internet that changes IP's at every reconnect
[04:33] <tritium> could ban by nick, or that portion of his IP address which doesn't appear to be changing....
[04:34] <cdm10> yeah... but that might ban the entire isp
[04:34] <jdong> tritium: how many other unagis would be around?
[04:34] <jdong> I think a nickban is the most sane for now
[04:34] <Burgundavia> mneptok: !!!
[04:34] <Burgundavia> you around?
[04:34] <tritium> jdong: but he just mentioned changing nicks...
[04:35] <jdong> tritium: he can change his nick but he can't change his personality :)
[04:35] <jdong> tritium: and if he does the latter, well then we don't have a problem anymore :)
[04:35] <tritium> :)
[04:35] <crdlb> use lart :P
[04:37] <tritium> I don't ban often enough to be very quick on my feet.
[04:37] <tritium> I rely too much on auto-bleh, also
[04:39] <jdong> ok, unagi is starting to troll...
[04:39] <jdong> and he has a partner too
[04:40] <tritium> go for it, jdong 
[04:40] <Madpilot> done
[04:40] <tritium> or Madpilot ;)
[04:40] <jdong> tritium: you mean, "or someone with real access (tm)" :)
[04:40] <tritium> I have real access, silly :)
[04:41] <jdong> I don't :)
[04:41] <tritium> Oh, heh
[04:41] <tritium> Sorry, I figured you were one of the new ops I've not met :)
[04:41] <jdong> I only do opping in #ubuntuforums; I serve on the forum council too
[04:41] <tritium> Excellent
[04:42] <jdong> it's quite a hellish domain you IRC ops have to handle here :)
[04:42] <jdong> stuff moves way too fast for my liking
[04:42] <jdong> jesus unagi_
[04:43] <tritium> No kidding!
[04:43] <jdong>  /who shows two unagis on h*.area7.spcsdns.net
[04:43] <jdong> that might be a safe banmask
[04:43] <Madpilot> time to remember how to do a nickban
[04:43]  * crdlb suggests unagi*!*@*
[04:43] <Madpilot> ah, and the outraged PMs have started
[04:43] <wii_> there's a nother person name wii in the same ch as i how is that?
[04:43]  * jdong suggests *!*@h46*.area7.specdns.net
[04:44] <jdong> wii_: that seems to be you.
[04:44] <jdong> with different IP
[04:44] <Madpilot> ah, and every 2nd word in the troll's PMs was "f*ck". Thanks for justifying the ban, dude.
[04:45] <tritium> good teamwork :)
[04:45] <wii_> jdong: thats not me 
[04:46]  * tritium bets he'll be back with a new IP and a new nick
[04:46] <jdong> wii_: same channel list, same realname, same username?
[04:46] <jdong> that's a difficult to believe coincidence, no?
[04:46] <jdong> the user, however, seems inactive
[04:46] <wii_> jdong: that wa i saw i swear it's not me
[04:46] <Madpilot> tritium, yes, but same old attitude, so we'll just keep going 'round and 'round
[04:46] <jdong> have you recently been disconnected from IRC?
[04:46] <tritium> Madpilot: we'll keep an eye out
[04:47] <wii_> i was surfin on mega with zoom someone rote me in amsn then i saw konversation blinking then they say something about name allready taken
[04:47] <jdong> wii_: ok, then most likely you just suffered a temporary network outage to freendoe
[04:47] <wii_> jdong: i dont know i was only looking at videos
[04:47] <jdong> wii_: the other one is a ghost of you
[04:48] <wii_> 0.o
[04:48] <jdong> it will disconnect by itself in roughly 120 seconds, or you may ghost it via NickServ
[04:48] <tritium> wii_: /msg nickserv ghost wii <passwwd>
[04:48] <wii_> 0.o
[04:49] <tritium> Then, /nick wii
[04:49] <wii_> allready in use
[04:50] <nalioth> wii_: are you evading a k-line ?
[04:50] <Madpilot> wii_, do '/msg nickserv help ghost' to get a better explanation of the problem
[04:50] <wii_> '/msg nickserv help ghost
[04:50] <Madpilot> no quote mares
[04:50] <Madpilot> marks
[04:51] <tritium> so far so good on unagi
[04:51] <tritium> my syntax should be correct, isn't it?
[04:52] <wii_> nalioth: whats a k-line
[04:52] <Madpilot> tritium, looked fine
[04:52] <tritium> thanks, Madpilot 
[04:53] <wii_> ok
[04:53] <Madpilot> there
[04:53] <wii> tanks
[04:53] <wii> bye
[04:53] <jdong> now, you better resolve the kline issue with nalioth ...
[04:53] <wii> what is that?
[04:54] <jdong> apparently you have been served a network-wide ban?
[04:55] <wii> oh that no need to solve it it's good how it is
[04:55] <nalioth> hmmm.
[04:55] <jdong> ROFL
[04:55] <jdong> ROFL ROFL ROFL :D
[04:55] <crdlb> hahaha
[04:55] <tritium> haha
[04:55] <jdong> that was GREAT
[04:55] <tritium> That's one worth remembering
[04:57] <Madpilot> what the heck?
[04:58] <jdong> are /whois requests handled by the freenode server, or client-to-client?
[04:59] <crdlb> server
[04:59] <jdong> so (well I guess staff aside), users cannot be alerted if you do a /whois on them?
[04:59] <nalioth> so should we continue the 'whack-a-troll' game with wii? he's evading a k-line
[05:00] <crdlb> jdong, right
[05:00] <jdong> nalioth: well I do want to see the fireworks :)
[05:00] <nalioth> i'm tired.
[05:00] <nalioth> is he being a prat?
[05:01] <jdong> I wouldn't know.....
[05:01]  * jdong joins -desktop/effects
[05:01] <jdong> wait that's right, effects doesn't exist
[05:02] <jdong> meh not that I see
[05:02] <jdong> I guess deal with it the next time he manages to act up
[05:07] <tritium> Madpilot: still no Mr. Unagi :)
[05:08] <Madpilot> good riddance
[05:11] <jdong> ok, quick test of ops in #uf, ignore false alarm please
[05:11] <ubotu> jdong called the ops in #ubuntuforums
[05:11] <jdong> ok done
[05:19] <jdong> can someone say called the ops?
[05:20] <crdlb> called the ops
[05:20] <jdong> grr
[05:21] <jdong> try again?
[05:21] <crdlb> called the ops
[05:21] <jdong> ok, I give up.
[05:22] <Madpilot> jdong, if you're trying to set a trigger, use <bang>ops
[05:23] <Madpilot> that is, ! then ops
[05:23] <Madpilot> most of us trigger on that
[05:23] <jdong> Madpilot: ah, ok. I was trying to go overboard and match ubotu's statement by regex and parse the channel to join :D
[05:23] <crdlb> lol
[05:24]  * jdong works on that....
[05:24]  * jdong finds a test channel first :D
[05:25] <Madpilot> which irc client, jdong? most have some sort of built-in 'alert on <phrase>' from what I've seen
[05:25] <Madpilot> even gaim/pidgin can, and it's pretty useless at irc
[05:26] <jdong> irssi :)
[05:26] <jdong> cool, the trigger works :D
[05:27] <jdong> wait.... wait.... security problem
[05:27]  * jdong comes up with better regex for channels so he can't be lured into an auto-kline
[05:28] <jdong> perfect
[05:28] <jdong> there's no deathpits match .*bunt.*, are there? :D
[05:29] <tonyy> Hold me - I'm IRCing from Pidgin
[05:30] <jdong> ok, I think I got it correctly triggering now, just to ubotu's mask too :D
[05:30] <jdong> ok, that's enough overachieving for one night
[05:30] <jdong> 00:29 Trigger 4 added: -publics -channels '#ubuntu-ops' -masks  '*!*@ubuntu/bot/*' -regexp 'called the ops in (#.*bunt.*)' -command  'join $1' 
[05:30] <tonyy> jdong: you're setting your client to join anywhere that gets an ops call?
[05:31] <jdong> tonyy: yeah :)
[05:31] <Madpilot> jdong, Ubuntu/Canonical/Freenode keep an eye on what #ubuntu-* channels are being formed, if that's what you mean by 'deathpits'
[05:31] <tonyy> weirdo
[05:31] <Madpilot> tonyy, is not pidgin horrible as an irc client?
[05:31] <jdong> Madpilot: I just wanted to make sure bot-abuse can't lure me into an auto-kliner channel
[05:32] <Madpilot> doubt it. 
[05:32] <Madpilot> ask our resident staffers, though
[05:32] <tonyy> Madpilot: absolutely wretched
[05:32] <jdong> with my scripting skills, I doubt it
[05:32] <jdong> aren't there more than one of those magical channels of DOOM?
[05:33] <tonyy> I thought Gutsy was going to have FF 3?
[05:33] <crdlb> is that even out yet?
[05:33] <jdong> tonyy: it does in universe
[05:33] <tonyy> good lord, so many bugs
[05:33] <jdong> !info firefox-granparadiso gutsy
[05:33] <ubotu> firefox-granparadiso: dummy upgrade package for firefox-granparadiso -> firefox-3.0. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 58 kB, installed size 128 kB
[05:34] <tonyy> jdong: erm, Help > Release Notes links to the ones for Breezy :S
[05:34] <jdong> tonyy: eep?
[05:34] <tonyy> jdong: I'll have to confirm that elsewhere though - this is an upgrade, no a clean install, and it had some issues
[05:35] <jdong> tonyy: mine link to Edgy
[05:35] <tonyy> jdong: bah, that's what I meant.  Something in October that isn't right.
[05:36] <jdong> tonyy: congrats on finding a bug, I guess :D
[05:36]  * tonyy will file later
[05:41] <tonyy> !cfblacklist
[05:41] <ubotu> The following cards are blacklisted in Compiz due to stability & compatibility issues: Intel 965. ATI: Rs480, Rv350. ATI Mobility: x300, x600, x700. More info: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist/
[05:42] <jdong> Intel 965 should really be called GMA 3100 too....
[05:42] <jdong> oh well
[05:55] <jrib> !test
[05:55] <jdong> oh boy :)
[05:55] <jdong> botdeath!
[05:55] <jrib> LjL-Temp, nalioth, Seveas  if you are up
[05:56] <nalioth> jrib: ?
[05:56] <jdong> nalioth: ubotu is down, so I guess we need ubotwo in the channels?
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: test
[05:57] <nalioth> ok, ubot3 is in #ubuntu and #kubuntu 
[05:57] <jrib> thanks
[05:57] <jdong> what's the difference between 2 and 3?
[05:57] <nalioth> silence when ubotu returns to us, please
[05:57] <nalioth> l j l owns and operates ubotwo  and i own and operate ubot3 
[05:57] <tritium> ?
[05:57] <jdong> ah, ok :)
[05:58]  * jdong pokes 2 into #uf
[05:58] <nalioth> jdong: is 3 good 'nuff ?
[05:58] <jdong> nalioth: yeah, lemme pull 2 out then :D
[05:59] <nalioth> i was not aware you had control of ubotwo 
[05:59] <jdong> I'm gonna go sleep anyway :)
[05:59] <jdong> nalioth: I just got access a few hours ago :)
[05:59] <jdong> nalioth: it's like a shiny new toy
[05:59] <nalioth> ah, well, let ubot3 stay 
[05:59] <tonyy> Somebody please tell me how to get my account-differentiating icons back in the pidgin buddy list....
[06:00]  * nalioth points tonyy to #pidgin
[06:00] <tritium> Good night, jdong 
[06:00] <jdong> night, tritium 
[06:13] <mneptok> Burgundavia: oy.
[06:18] <ubotu> Failed.
[06:20] <Burgundavia> mneptok: you led a drinking session in Montreal, no?
[06:23] <jrib> erm is ubot3 dead too?
[06:30] <Madpilot> ubuntusucks, nice nick. need a hand?
[06:34] <ubuntusucks> i want get in #ubuntu :)
[06:35] <ubuntusucks> plz
[06:35] <crdlb> !proxy
[06:35] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[06:35] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[06:36] <ubuntusucks> i china not allow
[06:37] <crdlb> you could get an unaffiliated cloak I think?
[06:37] <ubuntusucks> plz
[06:38] <ubuntusucks> i did find google
[06:38] <ubuntusucks> plz
[06:38] <mneptok> Burgundavia: nope, Fab and Etienne. i manned the fort.
[06:39] <Burgundavia> mneptok: right, well, I got an angry email
[06:39] <Burgundavia> apparently there was too much drinking and not enough presentations
[06:39] <tonyy> oh dear
[06:39] <ubuntusucks> sor not mean i make angry
[06:40] <Burgundavia> I replied saying that this was an informal gathering
[06:40] <ubuntusucks> email
[06:40] <elkbuntu> ubuntulog, it would be easier to take you seriously if you did not have a nick that insults what we do
[06:41] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: you talkin to machines again? :)
[06:41] <ubuntusucks> i person
[06:41] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, what machine?
[06:41] <crdlb> "<elkbuntu> ubuntulog"...
[06:41] <elkbuntu> bah
[06:42] <elkbuntu> i've been awake since 5am, im allowed to be braindead
[06:42] <elkbuntu> ubuntusucks, are you aware that it would be easier to take you seriously if you did not have a nick that insults what we do
[06:43] <ubuntusucks> insults what is insults i find google you use lots
[06:44] <ubuntusucks> i want be like you
[06:44] <ubuntusucks> plz
[06:44] <elkbuntu> ubuntusucks, your nickname says that ubuntu is bad, were you aware of that?
[06:45] <ubuntusucks> i nickname like you to :)
[06:45] <Burgundavia> umm, you are also using tor
[06:45] <Burgundavia> and on about 20 different ubuntu channels
[06:46] <Burgundavia> I am having a hard time believing your story, ubuntusucks
[06:47] <ubuntusucks> i find friends tor necessay so i dont trouble with police
[06:47] <Burgundavia> where in China do you live?
[06:47] <ubuntusucks> i friend has in trouble past
[06:48] <Burgundavia> if you are truly Chinese, why not try #ubuntu-zh ?
[06:49] <ubuntusucks> taiwan
[06:49] <Burgundavia> then you don't need Tor
[06:49] <Burgundavia> which is a nice little hole in your story
[06:49] <mneptok> Burgundavia: seriously?
[06:49] <ubuntusucks> yes irc tor
[06:49] <Burgundavia> mneptok: assuming you are talking about my email, yes
[06:50] <Burgundavia> yep, #ubuntu-tw exists
[06:50] <Burgundavia> and your english is likely to get you into trouble in #ubuntu
[06:50] <ubuntusucks> i connect #ubuntu-tw but no allow
[06:51] <ubuntusucks> i connect #ubuntu-zh but no people
[06:52] <ubuntusucks> ???
[06:53] <ubuntusucks> i #ubuntu plz :)
[06:53] <Burgundavia> I suggest you change your nick and then wait in #ubuntu-zh
[06:53] <mneptok> not with that nick. and that's probbaly your problem with #ubuntu-tw. and stop using TOR.
[06:53] <ubuntusucks> i connect #ubuntu-zh NO people
[06:54] <Burgundavia> anyway, mneptok, your boys in Montreal did make this person powerful angry
[06:54] <Myrtti> moin
[06:54] <tonyy> hey Myrtti
[06:55] <Madpilot> hi Myrtti 
[06:55] <ubuntusucks> no reply #ubuntu-tw 
[06:55] <ubuntusucks> i #ubuntu plz
[06:55] <ubuntusucks> :)
[06:56] <ubuntusucks> i #ubuntu plz :)
[06:56] <Myrtti> this conversation isn't very productive, I see
[06:56] <ubuntusucks> i #ubuntu plz :)
[06:56] <Madpilot> ubuntusucks, we never let Tor users into #ubuntu. Ever. And with that nick, we're not likely to be helpful.
[06:56] <Myrtti> ubuntusucks: stop repeating, you're not getting anywhere with that attitude
[06:57] <Myrtti> /me suspects the words are too complicated
[06:57] <ubuntusucks> #ubuntu plz i stop :) sor
[06:58] <ubuntusucks> i sor :) #ubuntu?
[06:58] <Madpilot> ubuntusucks, No. Your nickname is bad. And we do not let Tor users into #ubuntu.
[06:58] <Madpilot> Back in a few - with luck, restarting in Gutsy.
[06:59] <Myrtti> ubuntusucks: change your nick
[06:59] <Myrtti> ubuntusucks: don't use Tor
[06:59] <Myrtti> ubuntusucks: maybe then
[06:59] <ubuntusucks> new ubuntu broked how fix i see 
[06:59] <ubuntusucks> Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[06:59] <ubuntusucks> Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[06:59] <ubuntusucks> how fix
[06:59] <Myrtti> ubuntusucks: this is not the support channel, please stop it
[06:59] <tonyy> This is not a support channel.
[07:00] <Myrtti> /me considers using remove
[07:00]  * crdlb wonders what's wrong with Myrtti's /me
[07:00] <ubuntusucks> plz i just want help i computer not work :(
[07:00] <Myrtti> /me has disabled it
[07:00] <crdlb> heh
[07:00] <Myrtti> ubuntusucks: change your nick and don't use tor
[07:01] <Myrtti> ubuntusucks: how many times more do we have to tell you?
[07:01] <elkbuntu> wtf?
[07:01] <elkkubuntu> i connect #ubuntu plz now :)
[07:02] <Myrtti> elkkubuntu: change your nick and donät use tor
[07:02] <Myrtti> elkkubuntu: try to be more imaginative with your nick please
[07:02] <elkkubuntu> i change nick i connect #ubuntu i must tor
[07:02] <elkkubuntu> i just need help computer not work you broke it
[07:03] <Myrtti> elkkubuntu: change your nick to something different, people are getting confused with your nick and elkbuntus
[07:03] <Myrtti> elkkubuntu: and, you CAN NOT USE TOR on #ubuntu
[07:03] <Myrtti> ok, this is hilarious
[07:03] <myrttiubuntu> now in #ubuntu plz :)
[07:03] <elkbuntu> trolling will get you nowhere
[07:03] <Myrtti> may I, my finger is itching with /remove
[07:04] <elkbuntu> you may
[07:04] <tonyy> enough of that....
[07:04] <crdlb> tonyy, *!?=jo@gateway/tor/* 
[07:04] <tonyy> crdlb: Sounds right - I always mess up that option
[07:04] <Myrtti> he even pm'd me
[07:04]  * crdlb is now known as BanMaskBot
[07:05]  * tonyy misses his pretty scripts
[07:06] <crdlb> it isn't complicated at all, it just looks like it is :)
[07:06] <tonyy> pidgin + irc = bad idea
[07:06] <Madpilot> back, kind of in Gutsy
[07:06] <crdlb> ubotu is spamming
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is spamming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <tonyy> Madpilot: kind of?
[07:07] <Madpilot> got a couple of bugs in gnome
[07:07] <Madpilot> and trackerd is eating my cpu
[07:09] <Madpilot> Myrtti, did our tor-using person change their nick to "myrttiubuntu"?
[07:09] <Myrtti> Madpilot: indeed
[07:10] <Madpilot> charming
[07:11] <tonyy> What would be good thing to use for caching internet traffic to save bandwidth for dialup users?  Squid?
[07:17] <Hobbsee> LjL-Temp: we should request a wikilock on that page, btw
[07:18] <tonyy> Hobbsee: which page is this?
[07:24] <Hobbsee> !staff 
[07:24] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[07:24] <Hobbsee> we have a bad user operating under a tor cloak.  please nuke.
[07:25] <Myrtti> again?
[07:25] <Burgundavia> same guy
[07:25] <Hobbsee> likely
[07:25] <Hobbsee> done -devel adn -meeting
[07:26] <tonyy> Hobbsee: If you don't mind me asking, how would a normal user such as myself (who won't be at UDS) go about getting people of importance to look at specs they write and consider making them happen?
[07:27] <Hobbsee> tonyy: good question.  find someone interesting in implementing it, pretty much.
[07:27] <Hobbsee> UDS is a red herring - the problem is finding those interested in doing it
[07:28] <tonyy> hmmm
[07:28] <tonyy> I have no idea how I'd do that
[07:29] <tonyy> Planet Ubuntu with crossed fingers?
[07:31] <Hobbsee> yeah, or seek people on the forusm
[07:31] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure where one finds like-minded devs
[07:31] <Hobbsee> depends what it is, too
[07:31] <tonyy> Well, one of them involves telepathy, so I'll start with dholbach and gang on that.
[07:32] <Hobbsee> ...
[07:32] <Hobbsee> welcome
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:32] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:33] <Hobbsee> bloody non-konversation.
[07:33] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, been causing trouble for a bit now
[07:33] <Hobbsee> i need nalioths' banscript.
[07:33] <tonyy> Hobbsee: better than pidgin :P
[07:33] <Hobbsee> tonyy: true that
[07:33] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: so i've noticed.
[07:35]  * Hobbsee plays whack-a-troll, channeling nalioth
[07:36] <Hobbsee> chuga chuga chuga chuga choo choo!!!
[07:36]  * Hobbsee pokes the guy on /stats p
[07:38] <Jucato> ubuntuisshit is on the rampage
[07:38] <Madpilot> which channel now?
[07:39] <Jucato> [14:37] [Whois] ubuntuisshit is a user on channels: #edubuntu #ubuntu-bugs #ubuntu-desktop #ubuntu-doc #ubuntu-kernel #ubuntu-laptop #ubuntu-locoteams #ubuntu-mirrors #ubuntu-mobile #ubuntu-release-party #ubuntuforums #ubuntustudio
[07:39] <Jucato> dunno if he's still there.. he's tor'ing
[07:44] <Madpilot> Jucato, still on #ubuntu-doc; I don't have ops there though
[07:44]  * Jucato only has powers in #kubuntu
[07:45] <Madpilot> got lots of powers, but not there. thought i did.
[07:46] <JanC> hm, there is someone in #ubuntu-kernel playing childish dirty-word-nick-changing-games...
[07:46]  * Hobbsee doesnt
[07:46] <Hobbsee> JanC: we know
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <ubuntuisshit> how fix shit ubuntu and shit ops?
[07:46] <JanC> I see :P
[07:46] <Hobbsee> got him.
[07:46] <Myrtti> the staff would be lovely
[07:46] <crdlb> out of curiosity why don't you guys just add *!*@ubuntu/member/* to the access lists?
[07:47]  * Hobbsee wonders keep oping her
[07:47] <Hobbsee> crdlb: because not all ubuntu members should be trusted with ops.
[07:47] <crdlb> heh really?
[07:47] <Myrtti> /me rolls her eyes
[07:47] <Madpilot> lots of people get membership for reasons that have nothing to do with IRC
[07:48] <Madpilot> and haven't a clue what to do with oply pwrs
[07:48] <Myrtti> or how to behave...
[07:49] <JanC> not everybody can ask someone politely to behave first  ;)
[07:50]  * crdlb finds that very ... disturbing
[07:51] <crdlb> goodbye ops
[07:51] <Madpilot> I think we scared him. 
[07:51] <Madpilot> :)
[07:51] <Myrtti> ahem
[07:51] <Myrtti> #urp
[07:52] <Madpilot> not in there, is it being savaged?
[07:52]  * Jucato wonders what's so scary about that... :P
[07:53] <Myrtti> [09:50] ��� ubuntuisshit [i=boodf@gateway/tor/x-6f788becd4133971] has left  #ubuntu-release-party [requested by Myrtti]
[07:53] <Jucato> :)
[07:53] <Myrtti> [09:51] ��� mode/#ubuntu-release-party [+b *!*@gateway/tor/*] by Myrtti
[07:54] <Madpilot> Myrtti, good
[07:54] <ubotu> dholbach called the ops in #ubuntu-desktop
[07:54] <ubotu> dholbach called the ops in #ubuntu-bugs
[07:54] <Madpilot> we should shut that channel down in half a day or so anywya
[07:54] <ubotu> magnetron called the ops in #ubuntu-release-party
[07:54] <ubotu> scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu-release-party
[07:54] <Jucato> I guess he's still there...
[07:54] <Myrtti> we need some sort of a kline ...
[07:54] <Jucato> we need staffers..
[07:55] <Madpilot> some of that might have been bot lag
[07:55] <Jucato> oh yeah... the bot lagged :)
[07:55] <Hobbsee> Jucato: they'r etrying
[07:55] <Hobbsee> already speaking to one, but he doesnt want to call at 4am local
[07:55]  * Jucato waves at Hobbsee
[07:55] <Jucato> :D
[07:55] <Hobbsee> hiya Jucato!
[07:56] <Myrtti> should I release the ban?
[07:56] <Hobbsee> Myrtti: which?
[07:56] <Madpilot> Myrtti, here, or in #urp?
[07:56] <Myrtti> urp
[07:56] <Hobbsee> pft
[07:56] <Hobbsee> why do we still have that open?
[07:56] <Myrtti> I have no idea
[07:56] <Hobbsee> for people to celebrate gutsy, i guess
[07:57] <Myrtti> yeah, well, there's some IRL release parties this weekend
[07:57] <Myrtti> /me looks at her backpack
[07:58] <tonyy> I'll close urp over the weekend, but might as well let them have their fun today
[08:00] <Hobbsee> tonyy: fair enough
[08:00] <Jucato> he/it is getting annoying
[08:01] <Hobbsee> yup
[08:01] <Madpilot> there
[08:01] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: i've forwarded all of tor to here on a couple of channels.  if he wants to come and play, he can do it with a real IP.
[08:01] <Madpilot> good
[08:01] <Jucato> hahaha
[08:01] <Madpilot> better
[08:02] <Hobbsee> but i've only done that in a couple
[08:06] <Jucato> Hobbsee: is #kubuntu protected w/ that now?
[08:07] <Hobbsee> nope
[08:07] <Hobbsee> feel free to protect i
[08:07] <Jucato> Hobbsee: um... you'll have to do that for me. I'm about to go down with something, that's why I asked :(
[08:08]  * Jucato waves goodbye (for now)
[08:12] <Hobbsee> ahh
[09:38] <BugMaN> hi all! Please someone could add my ubuntu/member cloak? my LP profile is https://launchpad.net/~bugman and my mail address is bugman@ubuntu.com
[10:09] <Myrtti> intresting
[10:15] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[10:16] <Hobbsee> ah yes, where are they from?
[10:16] <Madpilot> must be our latest tor troll again
[10:16] <Madpilot> fun
[10:16] <Hobbsee> meeting or devel, i wonder
[10:17] <Madpilot> so tempting to just ban *!*@gateway/tor/*
[10:18] <BugMaN> hi all! Please someone could add my ubuntu/member cloak? my LP profile is https://launchpad.net/~bugman and my mail address is bugman@ubuntu.com my secondary nick is "bugmandue"
[10:18] <Myrtti> no, didn't someone put all the tor-users banforwarded here
[10:21] <Hobbsee> Myrtti: only for some of them.
[10:21] <Hobbsee> er, some of the channels
[10:22] <Myrtti> a lot of traffic, I see
[10:22] <Madpilot> someone is in desperate need of a life...
[10:22] <Madpilot> jkimball4, can we help  you?
[10:26] <jkimball4> Madpilot: I'm interested in the operation of Ubuntu channels. 
[10:26] <jkimball4> Although, it appears I could be kicked for watching channel babble.
[10:27] <Madpilot> this isn't exactly a public channel, jkimball4 - but you're welcome to watch our current trolling idiot bounce in and out of here for a bit if you like
[10:28] <jkimball4> I'll let this channel be.  I can always read the logs on irclogs.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[10:36] <Myrtti> Naflol12: had enough soon?
[10:39] <Madpilot> Myrtti, you've let staff know about our visitor, right?
[10:39] <Myrtti> nope, I'm totally unfamiliar with the whole issue, and kinda busy too
[10:40] <PriceChild> wth is going on....
[10:40] <Madpilot> PriceChild, we offended a Tor-abusing troll. 
[10:40] <PriceChild> ahhh
[10:40] <PriceChild> Naflol12, please stop join/parting
[10:40] <PriceChild> You too Gun_de_gray16 
[10:40] <PriceChild> Can I help either of you or are you just leaving?
[10:41] <PriceChild> gah not that
[10:42] <Madpilot> theres one banned
[10:42] <Madpilot> for the moment
[10:42] <Madpilot> Naflol12, bored of this stupid game yet?
[10:44] <Madpilot> hmm... I think that'll hold
[10:45] <Madpilot> PriceChild, I'm about to crash. want to ping staff if idiot Tor-abuser comes back?
[10:45] <PriceChild> gah sorry I disappeared for a second,
[10:46] <PriceChild> Erm I don't really think join/parting a channel crosses freenode guidelines :/
[10:46] <PriceChild> Unless we count it as spam.
[10:46] <Madpilot> I would
[10:46] <Myrtti> I'm ready to count *that* as spam
[10:47] <PriceChild> hmmm no nalioth....
[10:47] <PriceChild> *ping* rob ^
[10:47] <Myrtti> what's up with ubotu
[10:48] <PriceChild> is ubotu gone as well?
[10:48] <PriceChild> ubotu, ping
[10:48] <Madpilot> this particular troll arrived begging for access to #ubuntu while Tor-cloaked. When we wouldn't do that, it began attacking, basically
[10:50] <Myrtti> !ping
[10:50] <Madpilot> need sleep. talk to you all soon.
[10:50] <Madpilot> have fun with the trolls.
[11:05] <ubotu> pong
[11:05] <Myrtti> He's SLLLLOW
[11:06] <Myrtti> omg
[11:26] <Jucato> !ping
[11:26] <Jucato> hm...
[11:28] <PriceChild> Seveas, ubotu's being annoyin again
[11:32] <Jucato> even ubotwo's unresponsive in main channels...
[11:33] <PriceChild> Jucato, muted
[11:33] <PriceChild> I've put him back into #ubuntu
[11:33] <PriceChild> I did remove earlier as ubotu did catch up
[11:33] <Jucato> I've put him in #kubuntu
[11:34] <Jucato> he's just lagging I guess?
[11:34] <Jucato> he replied now
[11:34] <PriceChild> Jucato, bots take a fwe seconds to sync before they'll respond
[11:52] <ubotu> pong
[11:52] <Jucato> he's back! hehe
[11:52] <Myrtti> hehe
[11:53] <Jucato> and he's gone hahah
[11:53] <Myrtti> but ubotwo took over at #ubuntu
[11:54] <Jucato> yeah I'm keeping ubotwo in #kubuntu for now
[11:54] <PriceChild> I guess ubotu's sorting himself out now
[11:56] <Seeker`> is the madness sorting itself out now?
[11:57] <PriceChild> give him a few minutes, he joins slowly
[12:07] <ubotu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:12] <elkbuntu> did anyone take note of the peak for #ubuntu and the party channel?
[12:12] <elkbuntu> s/peak/peaks/
[12:12] <Myrtti> someone had the script running
[12:13] <Myrtti> in irssi that logs the peak
[12:13] <PriceChild> !test
[12:13] <PriceChild> gah ubotu's gone again... :/
[12:14] <Pici> Peak for #ubuntu@freenode: 1617 (Thu Oct 18 15:16:23 2007)
[12:14] <Pici> Peak for #ubuntu-release-party@freenode: 784 (Thu Oct 18 07:33:08 2007)
[12:14] <Pici> Times are EST
[12:14] <elkbuntu> wow, it didnt really go any higher than last release...
[12:15] <Myrtti> was there #urp the last time?
[12:15] <PriceChild> yes
[12:15] <PriceChild> got about 650
[12:37] <Pici> !test
[12:37] <Myrtti> damn
[12:38] <Pici> ubuntu-nl.org looks to be up at least.
[12:39] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:40] <Myrtti> that's sad
[12:40] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:50] <Hobbsee> ah, cool
[12:50] <Hobbsee> (thanks Pici)
[12:51] <Pici> (you're welcome Hobbsee) (I think)
[13:12] <Pici> !test
[13:12] <Myrtti> poor ubotu
[13:27] <ubotu> Failed.
[13:27] <Pici> You can say that again.
[13:28] <Jucato> lol
[13:30] <Myrtti> TLC for ubotu? <3
[14:00] <jrib> !test
[14:12] <BugMaN> hi all! Please someone could add my ubuntu/member cloak? my LP profile is https://launchpad.net/~bugman and my mail address is bugman@ubuntu.com my secondary nick is "bugmandue"
[14:15] <jpatrick> poor ubotu
[14:15] <Jucato> hehe yeah
[14:16] <Jucato> overworked, underpaid (unpaid?)
[14:16] <Jucato> but it can't say unloved :)
[14:18] <LjL> ouch, ubotu is still coming and going?
[14:19] <jrib> yes
[14:20] <LjL> does seveas know yet?
[14:22] <jussi01> Jucato: you didnt give it enough !botsnacks ! :P
[14:22] <Jucato> haha :)
[14:23] <Pici> jussi01: it knew!
[14:23] <Pici> talking about food made it come back
[14:25] <Pici> So what should we do with ubotu today? leave him muted and use ubot3 until he becomes stable?
[14:26] <Pici> or just keep up with the muting and unmuting of ubot3?
[14:27] <LjL> leave ubotu muted
[14:27] <LjL> it's done this since 12 hours
[14:27] <LjL> i don't see why it would stop
[14:27] <LjL> ubot3 is fine
[14:27] <ubot3> Factoid is fine not found
[14:27] <LjL> except for being an idiot like all bots
[14:29] <Pici> ubot3 needs a factoid refresh, its pulling ooold stuff
[14:29] <ubot3> Pici: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:29] <Pici> quiet you
[14:29] <Mez> ubot3, be silent
[14:29] <ubot3> Factoid be silent not found
[14:29] <LjL> Pici: it is? how old?
[14:29] <LjL> !gutsy
[14:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[14:29] <Mez> ubot3, gutsy
[14:29] <ubot3> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[14:29] <LjL> hmm
[14:29] <LjL> ubotwo is more updated
[14:29] <Pici> ubot3: ccsm
[14:29] <ubot3> Factoid ccsm not found
[14:29] <LjL> but ubotwo doesn't know a lot of syntax that ubot3 knows
[14:30] <LjL> including !x > y see the private message
[14:30] <Pici> Well, we need that
[14:30] <LjL> yeah, many people use it me included
[14:30] <LjL> i mean, !x > y works
[14:30] <LjL> it's just adding something after y that doesn't work
[14:30] <Pici> even parenthesis?
[14:31] <LjL> Pici: yeah. the only thing that works (i think) is adding a |, which is how it was in ubotu some time ago
[14:31] <LjL> !test > ljl    (ljl, see the private message from Ubotu) | test
[14:31] <LjL> !mp3 > ljl    (ljl, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:31] <LjL> ubotwo: join #ubuntu-bots
[14:32] <LjL> Pici: yes, things like "!msg the bot > ljl | ljl, see the message from the bot" work
[14:32] <LjL> but only if you use the |
[14:32] <Pici> hm
[14:32] <LjL> (i used "msg the bot" because if i use a single-word factoid, my client auto-replaces it automatically =)
[14:33] <LjL> problem is, a lot of people now are using scripts that *don't* include the |
[14:33] <LjL> i'll see if i can just hack into the code
[14:33] <Pici> nal1oth owns ubot3 right?
[14:33] <LjL> yes
[14:34] <Pici> nalioth: ping, can we get ubot3's factoids updated/synced with ubotu's?
[14:34] <LjL> crap
[14:34] <Pici> crap?
[14:34] <LjL> i just overwrote the wrong directory
[14:34] <Pici> crap
[14:34] <LjL> ubotwo: test
[14:35]  * jussi01 hugs LjL... there there
[14:38] <LjL> not all is lost... I HAVE A BACKUP BOT!
[14:38] <LjL> for the backup bot
[14:39] <Pici> you are insane
[14:39] <LjL> yeah that's not the issue though
[14:39] <Pici> Not this time
[14:45] <LjL> !gutsy
[14:45] <LjL> yeah well it works
[14:48] <LjL> err
[14:48] <LjL> was #ubuntu-effects reopened on purpose
[14:48] <LjL> or is it just that there is no chanserv and whoever was in there parted?
[14:48] <Pici> er... not to my knowledge
[14:48] <LjL> that's not good
[14:48] <Pici> No.
[14:48] <LjL> it was confusing enough
[14:49] <Pici> Can you set the forward?
[14:51] <LjL> Pici: i can, but i cannot make chanserv join. someone will have to stay in there (a bot or two should do)
[15:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[15:03] <Amaranth> DBO, Seveas: /cs set #ubuntu-effects guard on
[15:05] <LjL> poor nalioth
[15:05] <LjL> Amaranth: sorry for the getting the bot in #compiz-fusion
[15:05] <djennewe> can someone help me get back into #ubuntu?
[15:05] <LjL> ouch no not ubot3_
[15:06] <LjL> djennewe: sure, are you ready for a test?
[15:06] <djennewe> yes
[15:07] <LjL> djennewe: thank you, you can join
[15:07] <djennewe> thanks, LjL !
[15:07] <LjL> ubot3_, change your darn nickname
[15:07] <ubot3_> LjL: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:07] <LjL> i never thought that for a moment
[15:11] <LjL> nalioth: you alive?
[15:13] <ubotu> LjL called the ops in #ubuntuforums
[15:13] <nalioth> i hate the phone companies
[15:13] <LjL> ah you're alive
[15:14] <LjL> nalioth: ubotu is still gone mad, ubot3's factoid database is outdated for some reason, and if you can set chanserv guard on -effects, please do
[15:14] <nalioth> LjL: patience, my lovely internet provider went down last night with no notice
[15:14] <nalioth> "scheduled maintenance"
[15:15] <Pici> And we'd like some food too.
[15:15] <LjL> "scheduled" doesn't have to mean "notified" :)
[15:15] <nalioth> where is ubot3 needed?
[15:15] <LjL> nalioth: in the main channel, ubotwo is working ok now
[15:15] <LjL> channels
[15:15] <LjL> nalioth: it doesn't have bugtracker though
[15:16] <LjL> so perhaps ubot3 is needed in -motu -devel or something
[15:16] <nalioth> sorry, i just woke up.  is Ubotwo sufficient for #ubuntu and others, or is ubot3 needed there and ubotwo is fine sitting in the corner?
[15:16] <LjL> nalioth: ubotwo does seem to be taking the load with no problems right now. it's in #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #ubuntu-release-party and #ubuntuforums
[15:17] <nalioth> ok
[15:17] <LjL> but nowhere else (i don't even really know what channels ubotu is normally in)
[15:17] <Seeker`> whats wrong with ubotu?
[15:17] <nalioth> we usually wait for folks to come in here and poke us
[15:17] <LjL> Seeker`: it keeps excess flooding
[15:17] <LjL> since last night
[15:17] <nalioth> Seeker`: he's amazingly lagged
[15:18] <Seeker`> so its just that he cant send enough responses without flooding?
[15:18] <LjL> Seeker`: no, not quite... it starts lagging a lot (for some reason, probably server load)
[15:19] <LjL> then it tries to spurt out everything at once, and excess floods
[15:19] <Seeker`> ah, thats bad
[15:19] <Seeker`> what server is it acutally on?
[15:20] <LjL> some of seveas' machines
[15:21] <nalioth> thats one of the problems, it's not on a oc12 somewhere
[15:21] <Seeker`> what speed connection is it on then?
[15:22] <LjL> the connection speed should be ok really
[15:22] <LjL> it's the server that seems to get overloaded sometimes
[15:22] <LjL> and supybot is VERY sensitive to load
[15:22] <LjL> don't ask me why... but i've never seen another bot that quits when you run a long cp -a
[15:23] <Seeker`> :S
[15:23] <Seeker`> thats bad
[15:32] <PriceChild> nalioth, what's up with ubot3? :/
[15:32] <nalioth> PriceChild: what's up with it, indeed?
[15:33] <Seeker`> sounds like there needs to be a server farm of ubotus
[15:33] <PriceChild> nalioth, oh you don't know then? :/
[15:36] <PriceChild> dholbach just poked me for our team report at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/October2007 Seen as we haven't had a meeting, I'm going to put down stuff that we decided during discussion here and ML, things like +1 and -effects.
[15:36] <PriceChild> Seveas, nalioth elkbuntu LjL ^
[15:37] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, fair enough
[15:41] <PriceChild> Anything else to put on the report that you can think of?
[15:49] <Seeker`> could you not convince Canonical to host ubotu? and put it on a fast server / connectino?
[15:53] <nalioth> Seeker`: this subject is constantly under discussion
[15:53] <nalioth> various methods of keeping an infobot active at all times
[15:55] <Seeker`> I think I read something about the somewhere
[15:57] <Seeker`> yeah, ont he irc mailing list
[16:04] <LjL> PriceChild: ok
[16:05] <LjL> ubotu seems to work now though?
[16:05] <LjL> hasn't quit for a while, and seems responsive
[16:06] <LjL> i'll give it a go
[16:06] <nalioth> ubotu: test
[16:06] <ubotu> Failed.
[16:07] <nalioth> i've pulled ubotu out of all the channels it was in
[16:07] <LjL> nalioth: pulled as in kicked?
[16:08] <nalioth> no, i asked it to part
[16:08] <Seeker`> nalioth: ubotu is in -uk at the moment
[16:08] <LjL> i'll keep ubotwo in -release-party just to lighten ubotu's load a little
[16:09] <nalioth> i don't know why we didn't send a backup bot in there in the first place
[16:09] <LjL> i did
[16:09] <LjL> ah
[16:09] <LjL> well i initially put ubotwo there
[16:09] <LjL> then seveas put ubotu
[16:09] <LjL> i suppose he didn't expect it to fail like this
[16:09] <LjL> but i don't think it's really -release-party's fault either
[16:13] <Seeker`> what does ubotu do apart from factiods?
[16:14] <LjL> Seeker`: bug #23
[16:14] <LjL> perhaps not in this channel
[16:14] <LjL> !test
[16:14] <LjL> oh no
[16:14] <Seeker`> bug tracking stuff then
[16:14] <nalioth> this is pretty rad.  i've not had a gusty update in 4 days
[16:15] <Seeker`> nalioth: I've not had one either
[16:15] <LjL> ok, i spoke too soon. ubotu is gone again :)
[16:17] <Pici> I miss my updates :(
[16:25] <PriceChild> *wonders how the forums haven't died  yet*
[16:31] <PriceChild> Server Load Averages  	11.90  13.03  14.71 | 11,005 Users Online (1,425 members and 9,580 guests)
[16:32] <nalioth> #ubuntu hit 1617 users yesterday about 20 hours ago.  seems the max for release day so far
[16:32] <LjL> nalioth: yeah i won the bet
[16:32] <LjL> i bet between 1600 and 1700 :)
[16:32] <PriceChild> *awards ljl a medal*
[16:34] <LjL> people are tired of our releases :)
[16:34] <LjL> even the botnets won't bother anymore
[16:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 23 in baz "baz redo should use merge3 for conflicts like most other commands do." [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23
[16:38] <ubotu> Failed.
[16:39] <Pici> whoa
[16:40] <Pici> Alas poor ubotu, I knew him well.
[16:43]  * nalioth runs some errands
[16:43] <nalioth> bbl
[16:45] <Seeker`> wow, 24 min lag
[16:56] <no0tic> many italian users are complaining about slow dns resolving only under gutsy, is there any issue?
[16:56] <Pici> no0tic: This isnt a support channel, I think you want #ubuntu :)
[16:58] <LjL> Pici: he's an op
[16:58] <no0tic> I'm an ubuntu-it op, I believed that this channel could be useful to share infos between us
[16:58] <LjL> no0tic: can't it be the good old ipv6 issue?
[16:58] <LjL> !ipv6
[16:59] <LjL> yeah whatever
[16:59] <no0tic> LjL, yes, I know that "issue", I'll try to explain
[17:01] <LjL> no0tic: or it could be the stupid avahi/resolvconf/whatever
[17:01] <LjL> well i shouldn't call them stupid but they are
[17:02] <no0tic> yes, you shouldn't :) I wonder why they are installed by default
[17:02] <Pici> LjL: oh
[17:02] <Pici> no0tic: Sorry about that :)
[17:03] <no0tic> Pici, :)
[17:06] <LjL> gah, i try to grep "dns" in the logs...
[17:06] <LjL> and of course there is someone with a dns_56 nickname.
[17:07] <Pici> grep -v dns_56
[17:07] <LjL> yeah i did :P
[17:09] <LjL> anyway i can't find anything special about dns problems
[17:13] <LjL> no0tic: in my logs i can't find anything special about dns
[17:13] <jdong> LjL: I haven't  heard much relating to dns either
[17:14] <Seeker`> I haven't seen any resolution issues
[17:14] <jdong> ;; Query time: 3 msec
[17:14] <LjL> Seeker`: are you saying there's something wrong with the matrix? :)
[17:15]  * Seeker` doesn't get it
[17:15] <LjL> Seeker`: nevermind :P
[17:16]  * Seeker` goes to find stuff from shops
[17:25] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[17:27] <jdong> ha, poor bot
[17:47] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, persia said: !back is Hurray, I've rejoined the channel.  Too many bugs :)
[17:48] <jdong> haha
[17:48] <jdong> is it time to get all the factoids we want in, before the bot dies again?
[17:48] <LjL> jdong: if you want it to die again :P
[17:48] <Pici> I dont think it syncs that often
[17:48] <jdong> :D
[17:48] <LjL> it should stay now anyway
[17:48] <Pici> does it?
[17:48] <LjL> Pici: yes
[17:49] <jdong> !-twss-#ubuntu-offtopic
[17:49] <LjL> if a factoid is added, it stays
[17:49] <Pici> LjL: I mean the backup bots
[17:49] <LjL> Pici: ah, mine syncs just every night
[17:49]  * jdong shakes ubotu a bit
[17:49] <ubotu> twss is <alias> twss-#ubuntuforums - added by PriceChild on 2007-09-16 18:52:21
[17:49] <jdong> !-twss-#ubuntuforums
[17:49] <ubotu> twss-#ubuntuforums aliases: twss-#ubuntu-offtopic - added by Hobbsee on 2007-04-26 03:45:18
[17:50] <jdong> wtf? recursive?
[17:50] <jdong> !-twss-#ubuntu-offtopic
[17:50] <ubotu> twss is <alias> twss-#ubuntuforums - added by PriceChild on 2007-09-16 18:52:21
[17:50] <LjL> jdong: no not recursive
[17:50]  * jdong looks in confusion...
[17:50] <LjL> jdong: the main factoid is twss-#ubuntuforums
[17:50] <LjL> the others are aliases
[17:50] <jdong> OH
[17:50] <jdong> I see it
[17:51] <ubotu> In ubotu, persia said: ubotu is back !
[17:51] <jdong> !twhs-#ubuntuforums is <reply> That's what he said!
[17:51]  * Pici wonders if recursive <alias> es work
[17:51] <jdong> mmm?
[17:51] <LjL> Pici: they used to break the bot completely :)
[17:51] <LjL> that's been fixed now though
[17:51] <persia> Please ignore my edit request.  I was trying to understand the parsing routine in a /msg
[17:51] <Pici> persia: we will ;)
[17:51] <LjL> persia: we suspected we should ignore it :P
[17:51] <persia> Pici: Thanks :)
[17:51] <jdong> !twhs-#ubuntuforums is <reply>That's what he said!
[17:52] <jdong> grr isn't that the syntax?
[17:52] <LjL> jdong: yeah
[17:52] <LjL> !twhs-#ubuntuforums
[17:52] <Seeker`> woo for botlag
[17:52] <LjL> !twhs-#ubuntuforums is <reply> That's what he said!
[17:52] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[17:52] <LjL> jdong: *shrug*
[17:52] <jrib> make a normal one without <reply> first
[17:52] <jdong> LjL: how the???
[17:52] <jdong> oh
[17:52] <LjL> jdong: he hates you.
[17:53] <jdong> I tend to have that effect :D
[17:53] <jrib> !twhs-#ubuntuforums is foo
[17:53] <LjL> jrib, it works now
[17:53] <Pici> but twhs already means something
[17:53] <LjL> jdong: are you logged in?
[17:53] <Seeker`> !twhs
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twhs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <LjL> !twhs-#ubuntuforums
[17:53] <ubotu> That's what he said!
[17:53] <jdong> LjL: logged in to what?
[17:53] <Pici> jdong: ze bot
[17:53] <LjL> jdong: to ubotu. not that one normally needs to, but try @login or %login
[17:54]  * jdong no got bot access
[17:54] <jdong> %login
[17:54] <jdong> ha
[17:54] <jdong> pwned
[17:54] <LjL> jdong: ah that explains it then :P
[18:15] <PriceChild> man we've still got a ridiculous number on uf.org
[18:32] <jdong> "You press start and up comes the toolbar... that's what she said"
[18:32] <jdong> oh crap why's there a + by my name
[18:32]  * jdong quietly /win 4's....
[19:09] <BugMaN> PriceChild: hi, could you set an ubuntu cloak, my LP profile is bugman, my secondary nick is bugmandue
[19:24] <PriceChild> Hey BugMaN.
[19:24] <PriceChild> bugman have you linked your secondary nick and set an email?
[19:25] <BugMaN> PriceChild: hi
[19:25] <BugMaN> yes
[19:25] <PriceChild> (you can paste the output of "/msg nickserv info bugman" to me if unsure)
[19:25] <PriceChild> nalioth, cloak please for BugMaN (I've added to launchpad)
[19:26] <PriceChild> BugMaN, nalioth is /away so you may have to wait a short while sorry :)
[19:28] <BugMaN> PriceChild: ok i'm waiting :)
[19:37] <Pici> PriceChild: are the ! ops rules in #compiz-fusion the same as in our channels? It set off my hilight but I'm not sure if they use it in emergencies only as we do.
[19:50] <ubotu> Martinp23 called the ops in #ubuntu
[19:51] <Pici> arg... I keep getting desynced from #ubuntu and cant ban
[19:55] <PriceChild> 8VJdgol
[19:55] <Pici> I'll ignore tat
[19:55] <PriceChild> oh dear :)
[19:55] <Pici> s/tat/that
[19:56] <PriceChild> *disables ssh*
[19:56] <PriceChild> *wonders why the screen didn't lock*
[19:57] <PriceChild> And pici I can't type properly so that wasn't all of it :P
[19:58] <Pici> PriceChild: I've (properly) typed two of my passwords somewhere on irc, so I know the feeling
[19:59] <Seeker`> ouch
[21:46] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[21:46] <Seeker`> whats wronf?
[21:47] <Amaranth> stupid people are joining #ubuntu-effects and asking #ubuntu-type questions
[21:47] <Amaranth> One problem: #ubuntu-effects is #compiz-fusion
[21:48] <Seeker`> there isn't really anything you can do to stop that thouhg, is there?
[21:48] <Amaranth> nope
[21:48] <Amaranth> But the ops in #compiz-fusion are complaining
[21:49] <nalioth> it will take some time for the new changes to become known
[21:49] <nalioth> the #compiz-fustion guys should have realized this
[21:49] <Amaranth> Well we did tell them it was only a few people
[21:50] <Amaranth> Seems people are more interested in the channel thanks to gutsy
[21:50] <Amaranth> But better for them to get to #compiz-fusion than #ubuntu-effects and talk to a wall
[21:50] <Amaranth> PriceChild: compiz? :)
[21:50] <Amaranth> PriceChild: fix coming in gutsy-updates, gnome-screensaver is stupid
[21:51] <PriceChild> Amaranth, nope no compiz
[21:51] <Amaranth> oh
[21:51] <PriceChild> Amaranth, Why on earth are people asking desktop-effectsy questions in what they think is -effects? :/
[21:51] <Amaranth> err
[21:52] <PriceChild> non-desktop-effectsy
[21:52] <Amaranth> PriceChild: The same reason they think #ubuntu-desktop and #ubuntu-devel will give them help
[21:53] <Amaranth> PEBKAC
[21:55] <LjL> PriceChild, Amaranth: we could perhaps arrange for a +m of #ubuntu-effects with the topic pointing to #compiz-fusion, rather than a plain banforward
[21:55] <LjL> err, forward
[21:55] <LjL> without ban
[21:56] <Seeker`> LjL: getting to used to banning people these days?
[21:56] <LjL> heh
[21:56] <LjL> well no i use forward/banforward/redirect a bit interchangeably
[21:56] <LjL> but a channel forward is a bit different from a banforward
[21:56] <Seeker`> yeah
[21:57] <LjL> although the former can be implemented using the latter, if wanted =)
[21:58] <Seeker`> :)
[22:00] <Seeker`> LjL: are you forwarding all joins to -party of -offtopic now?
[22:00] <LjL> Seeker`: you. lovely, aren't i.
[22:00] <LjL> s/you/yup/
[22:02] <Seeker`> yup
[22:08] <mneptok> nalioth: orp.
[22:08] <nalioth> mneptok: gurg?
[22:08] <mneptok> nalioth: mind adding me to #gobuntu?
[22:08] <nalioth> type /j #gobuntu 
[22:08] <nalioth> add yourself
[22:09] <LjL> i suspect he meant the access list
[22:09] <LjL> (don't thank me)
[22:09] <mneptok> 17:07 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You have been added to the access list for #gobuntu with level [-100000000000000000000000000]
[22:09] <mneptok> thanks :(
[22:09] <LjL> mwaha
[22:10] <PriceChild> lol how rude :D
[22:10] <nalioth> mneptok: i suspect your copy didn't go far enough
[22:10] <Madpilot> nalioth, did that Tor-abusing troll about 10-12hrs ago get a kline finally?
[22:10] <nalioth> Madpilot: which one? i unfortunately experience 3 or 4 per day
[22:10] <Madpilot> nalioth, the one that was join/part spamming in here with two or three accounts
[22:10] <nalioth> didn't see it, Madpilot 
[22:11] <Madpilot> guess he gave up. I wound up setting nickbans to keep him out of here.
[22:21] <mneptok> Madpilot: that "ubuntusucks" guy, allegedly from Taiwan?
[22:22] <Madpilot> mneptok, that one
[22:22] <Madpilot> was using a couple of unpleasant nicks - see the banlist here - then just join/part spamming
[22:22] <PriceChild> AHEM yipe in #ubuntu
[22:23] <LjL> shouldn't be too harmful in #ubuntu
[22:23] <Madpilot> thought he was perma-banned?
[22:23] <Madpilot> or is that from -offtopic?
[22:23] <LjL> from offtopic
[22:23] <Madpilot> k
 1419 nicks and no ops
 hah
[22:47] <Madpilot> in #ubuntu?
[22:47] <LjL> yes
[22:48] <Madpilot> he
[22:48] <Madpilot> heh
[22:48] <LjL> (where else are there 1419 nicks? :P)
[22:48] <Madpilot> we lurk, it's more fun that way
[22:48] <PriceChild> Hmm I think he was just amused.
[22:49] <Madpilot> ya, doesn't seem to be causing trouble despite that entry line
[22:51] <PriceChild> !md5sum
[22:51] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[22:51] <PriceChild> !md5sums
[22:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md5sums - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:51] <PriceChild> !no md5sums is <reply> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.
[22:51] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, PriceChild said: !no md5sums is <reply> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.
[22:51] <PriceChild> bah... and what's that "no" about
[22:51] <PriceChild> @login
[22:51] <ubotu> OK
[22:51] <LjL> uhm
[22:51] <LjL> !verify
[22:51] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[22:54] <LjL> PriceChild: those three wiki pages should be kind of pulled together i think
[22:54] <tritium> Madpilot: Mr. Unagi is back
[22:55] <Madpilot> which channel?
[22:55] <tritium> #ubuntu
[22:55] <PriceChild> howtomd5sum and verifyisohowto yeah
[22:55] <Madpilot> tritium, nuke instantly for ban-evasion, or leave him?
[22:55] <tritium> Madpilot: and I don't get it.  I set a proper ban on his nick, I thought
[22:56] <tritium> Madpilot: he's okay, I think.  Today is a new day.
[22:56] <Madpilot> ok, we'll see
[22:56] <ubotu> gordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu
[22:56] <tritium> Our LoCo is having its release party today (I know, a day late...)
[22:58] <tritium> hmm, /set bell_beeps ON, and /set beep_msg_level HILIGHT still doesn't seem to have enabled audible nick highlighting for me (irssi)
[23:16] <mneptok> tritium: is it a remote host?
[23:17] <tritium> mneptok: yes, I'm sshed into my server
[23:17] <tritium> I have irssi running in a screen session
[23:17] <mneptok> if so, there are some very annoyed people at your colo
[23:17] <mneptok> you just turned on audible beeping on that remote machine.
[23:17] <tritium> mneptok: oh, no, my server is also my mythtv box in my living room :)
[23:18] <Seeker`> whoever is watching tv is annoyed then :P
[23:18] <mneptok> what sound architecture does irssi use?
[23:18] <Seeker`> mneptok: its just the system beep afaik#
[23:18] <tritium> yeah, system beep
[23:18] <tritium> Okay, that explains it :)
[23:32] <wii> when i went to  #ubuntu-effects i was fowarded to #compiz-fusion then banned :D ubuntu effects dont exist anymore?
[23:32] <LjL> no, it doesn't.
[23:32] <wii> ok
[23:34] <LjL> wii: other questions?
[23:35] <wii> no
[23:35] <LjL> he got that subtle invite, at least
[23:35]  * Seeker` hates the phrase "it doesnt work"
[23:35] <LjL> !doesn't work
[23:35] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[23:36] <Seeker`> is ubotu better now
[23:36] <LjL> yeah
[23:36] <Seeker`> yay :)
[23:37] <Amaranth> !-doesn't work
[23:37] <ubotu> doesn't work aliases: work, doesntwork, doesnt work - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 16:49:40
[23:37] <Amaranth> aww come on
[23:38] <Amaranth> I added that one, stole it from ##php
[23:38] <Amaranth> Oh, maybe 2006-06-18 is when cafeugo's ubotu went offline and Seveas' came
[23:38] <LjL> Amaranth: he implemented that fake "added by" feature only to get all the merit
[23:38] <LjL> i found that out long ago
[23:38] <Amaranth> I added that before he was even around, I think :)
[23:39] <Seveas> Amaranth, I've been around since september '04 :)
[23:39] <Seveas> way before ubotu v1 was there
[23:39] <Amaranth> Seveas: I don't remember you back then :)
[23:39] <Amaranth> Were you an op?
[23:40] <Seveas> not before june '05
[23:40] <Amaranth> Ah, that'd be it then
[23:40] <Seveas> or maybe earlier
[23:40] <Amaranth> I think I was as of jan '05
[23:40] <Seveas> could be, you were op before me :)
[23:40] <Seeker`> wow, Amaranth has been aroudn a while then :P
[23:41] <ompaul> Seeker`, so have a few people
[23:41]  * Seeker` only started using linux in october 04, and ubuntu in about may 06
[23:41] <Seveas> noob :p
[23:41] <ompaul> Seveas, na that is uber noob
[23:41] <ompaul> :)
[23:41] <Seveas> hehe
[23:41] <mc44> I've been on freenode since 1934
[23:42] <Seeker`> I've been using irc since about 2001 though
[23:42] <mc44> ompaul: using the 24 hour time, obviously
[23:42] <Amaranth> Seeker`: I only started using linux (all the time) since Oct '04 :)
[23:42] <ompaul> cos I can
[23:42] <ompaul> :P
[23:42] <ompaul> loriel
[23:42] <Amaranth> IRC was about 2001
[23:42] <ompaul> irc helping people since 94 :)
[23:42]  * Seeker` was spending around 300 hours a month on irc in 2002
[23:43] <ompaul> mind you 
[23:43] <ompaul> we used to call the channel #no-help after 2.3 freebsd
[23:43] <LjL> ompaul: and cos 1) he doesn't use 24-hour time 2) he was around since before 1934 according to my logs
[23:43] <ompaul> and made it official at 2.4 time
[23:43] <ompaul> LjL, +3.142
[23:43] <ompaul> have some pie
[23:44] <Madpilot> 3.142/6 - a slice of pi
[23:44] <ompaul> Madpilot, pi over two to you too 
[23:45] <Seeker`> hmm, I'm trying to work out when I first joined freenode
[23:45] <ompaul> Madpilot, a sine of the times
[23:45] <Amaranth> I had a stupid nick when I first joined freenode
[23:45] <Madpilot> ompaul, we give out pi cos we care, right?
[23:45] <Amaranth> Got dragged here from mircx by someone wanting my PHP knowledge to prove some guy wrong in #phpfreaks
[23:45] <LjL> ompaul: 2.71828   6.626068 × 10-34 m2 kg / s  ?!??!
[23:45] <Amaranth> Ended up agreeing with the guy and sticking around
[23:46] <ompaul> LjL, you're making light of the subject now
[23:46] <Amaranth> We ended up making Apple look stupid twice in 24 hours ;)
[23:46] <Amaranth> Funny how all that works
[23:46] <Seeker`> Amaranth: cool
[23:46] <LjL> when i first joined freenode, i was k-lined
[23:46] <Seeker`> I reckon I was first in #ubuntu-uk in november last year
[23:46] <Seeker`> LjL: how did you manage that?
[23:46] <LjL> Seeker`: secret.
[23:47] <ompaul> LjL, and now look at you
[23:47] <Amaranth> If some random guy hadn't wanted to prove his point I wouldn't be on freenode and wouldn't have made online music stores, PHP->C++ compilers, iTMS clients, etc
[23:47] <LjL> ompaul: yeah, unfortunately the stupid staffer removed the k-line after a while...
[23:47] <ompaul> heh
[23:47] <ompaul> okay I now go to bed
[23:47] <ompaul> night all
[23:48] <Seeker`> night
[23:48] <LjL> night
[23:48] <Seeker`> LjL: how did you get involved with the op stuff? Just the right place at the right time?
[23:48] <databuddy> eh
[23:49] <databuddy> could someone sajoin me to ubuntu+1?
[23:49]  * databuddy will sign on from server or something....
[23:49] <Amaranth> no, it's gone
[23:49] <databuddy> Amaranth its not gone
[23:49] <Amaranth> you're not baned, the channel is gone
[23:49] <Amaranth> banned*
[23:49] <databuddy> its forwarded and several hundred ppl are still in it
[23:49] <Amaranth> They should leave
[23:49] <databuddy> 340ish when my computer locked up
[23:50] <databuddy> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Live_CD_distributions#Create_your_own_Debian_Live_CD  <<--- btw awesome tut on livecd truely custom stuff- should be added to main wiki
[23:50] <Amaranth> databuddy: The idea is to get people _out_ of #ubuntu+1
[23:51] <Amaranth> databuddy: So you won't be let back in
[23:51] <databuddy> bah
[23:51] <Seeker`> databuddy: I believe it will be unlocked when work starts on Hardy
[23:51] <databuddy> plenty of us put in the time...... should still be limited open
[23:51] <databuddy> Seeker` they said a few weeks or so
[23:51] <databuddy> which is annoying...
[23:51] <Seeker`> databuddy: Yeah, after UDS I think
[23:52] <Amaranth> If you want to 'put in the time' gutsy issues go to #ubuntu now :)
[23:52] <databuddy> i take it youve not /whois 'd me 
[23:52] <Amaranth> All good then
[23:53] <Amaranth> You don't get a private playground :P
[23:53] <databuddy> ha
[23:53] <databuddy> its hardly private with a couple hundred other ppl playing in the sandbox ~_^
[23:53] <Amaranth> Not anymore :)
[23:54] <LjL> databuddy, last time we kicked everyone out, and everyone whined. so we're letting it die a natural death this time.
[23:54] <LjL> but there's no purpose keeping it open
[23:54] <LjL> gutsy is out
[23:54] <Amaranth> I just made it +m
[23:54] <databuddy> LjL its not a gutsy chan..... 
[23:54] <Amaranth> So perhaps they'll clear out quicker
[23:54] <Amaranth> databuddy: No, it's for hardy which does not exist yet
[23:54] <LjL> databuddy: it's the chan for ubuntu+1. there is currently no ubuntu+1.
[23:54] <Amaranth> So the channel does not 'exist' yet
[23:54] <databuddy> so lets get to work XD
[23:54] <databuddy> can we start with kernel updates plz?
[23:55] <Seeker`> databuddy: UDS needs to happen first
[23:55] <databuddy> ?
[23:55] <Seeker`> databuddy: Ubuntu Developer Summit, so they know what they are going to include in Hardy
[23:55] <Amaranth> We have to finalize what to put in it before we start putting stuff in it :)
[23:55] <databuddy> we should discuss that in chan first
[23:56] <Amaranth> No one important would be there
[23:56] <Amaranth> The discussion is among the developers
[23:56] <databuddy> <<<--- very important
[23:57] <Amaranth> Please do not do this.
[23:57] <Amaranth> Just wait.
[23:57] <databuddy> sigh
[23:57] <databuddy> your really not gonna give are u
[23:57] <LjL> databuddy: yes
[23:58] <Amaranth> databuddy: Go play in #ubuntu-offtopic or something :P
[23:58] <Amaranth> LjL: Wow you're mean
[23:58] <LjL> Amaranth: very.
[23:58] <Amaranth> You let him in a +m channel
[23:58] <Amaranth> He'll be back soon :P