| zylstra555 | I am having an FTP issue. When I log into my FTP account (through VSFTPD) I am unable to upload/delete/modify files in any way. How do I correct this issue? | 01:21 |
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| zylstra555 | (This is a very quiet channel...) | 01:23 |
| hansin | Yeah, I add to the congrats and also a thanks for putting out Ubuntu-Server edition. I have not updated to 7.10 yet, but I have been happy with all the previous versions. | 01:50 |
| hansin | Very happy, actually. | 01:50 |
| mikeo2 | lol installing ubuntu-server if you have a mouse with extra buttons (like a logitech mx530) and you hit the middle button during the install it restarts the machine | 02:00 |
| ScottK | mikeo2: Please file a bug if you haven't. | 04:21 |
| kgoetz | hi all, can someone look at this? i've blown way the debian-sys-maint user in y mysql database, so it cant start | 06:08 |
| kgoetz | but to reconfigurit the script wants to stop it first, which it cant do, because it wont start | 06:08 |
| kgoetz | http://pastebin.ca/742031 | 06:08 |
| kgoetz | and is this a bug? surely you shold be able to reconfigure when its not working without it already running? | 06:09 |
| sommer | kgoetz: I think you need to re-add the debian-sys-maint user. You can find the password in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf | 06:18 |
| kgoetz | sommer: the password is hashed (looks like it anyway) | 06:19 |
| sommer | kgoetz: in the database or the file? the one in the file shouldn't be I believe... I could be wrong though | 06:19 |
| sommer | you could always try it and see if it works... :) | 06:20 |
| kgoetz | sommer: it might just be a complex password *goes to test* | 06:23 |
| sommer | kgoetz: sounds good. It's sleepy time for me, but if you still have issues I'm sure some one else can help. | 06:25 |
| kgoetz | sommer: thanks, sleep well | 06:25 |
| kgoetz | sommer: thanks, reset the password and mysqld starts again (even if it isnt just listing on localhost now) | 06:37 |
| kraut | moin | 07:37 |
| _ruben | g'day | 07:56 |
| Helvasca | hey guys, I'm looking at setting up a computer to connect to a thin client, what should I have on the computer..? | 07:57 |
| Burgundavia | install ltsp | 07:59 |
| Helvasca | I've got the server fine. | 07:59 |
| Helvasca | what about on the computer that I want to connect "from" | 08:00 |
| Burgundavia | you need a NIC with PXE | 08:04 |
| Helvasca | thanks | 08:04 |
| Burgundavia | or a boot cd | 08:05 |
| nmersi | Does anyone know if Canonical is going to put vmware-server packages in a repository for gutsy like they did for feisty? | 08:11 |
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| nmersi | I had a small problem updating my server from 7.04 to 7.10 (yes I know perhaps was a bit early!) and it stopped upgrading bacula backup. It was only a parsing error because of change in syntax of conf and I modified it. The point is how do I know the rest of upgrade is ok? | 08:25 |
| Zambezi | How is Gutsy running as firewall? | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | as any good distribution is | 08:36 |
| Zambezi | Burgundavia: I have pfSense now, but I need to put two servers together to save money. | 08:40 |
| soren | Zambezi: The plumbing to do that is missing, but it's on my todo list for Hardy. | 09:38 |
| soren | Zambezi: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/redundant-firewall | 09:38 |
| ivoks | i'm not familliar with tomcat | 09:38 |
| ivoks | is it chrooted in ubuntu? :) | 09:38 |
| ivoks | cause it returns it can't exec one file... :/ | 09:39 |
| ivoks | bbl | 09:40 |
| soren | ivoks: No idea. readlink /proc/$PID/root ? | 09:40 |
| ivoks | yeah... it's not | 09:41 |
| ivoks | see you later... | 09:41 |
| Burgundavia | soren: you planning do ebox for hardy? | 09:41 |
| soren | Burgundavia: Yes. | 09:42 |
| _ruben | soren: looks nice (the blueprint) | 09:42 |
| Burgundavia | rocking | 09:42 |
| soren | _ruben: I've got most of the stuff packaged already. I just need to upload and test. | 09:42 |
| _ruben | sweet | 09:42 |
| Burgundavia | soren: how does the SOAP interface work with ebox? | 09:43 |
| Burgundavia | will it let us a create an "ebox-client | 09:43 |
| Burgundavia | " package to instlal on desktops to control them? | 09:44 |
| soren | Burgundavia: AFAIR it's meant to make it possible to administer several eBox instances (on multiple machines) from just one web interface. | 09:44 |
| soren | Burgundavia: To my knowledge, there's not a new client in the works. | 09:44 |
| Burgundavia | right | 09:44 |
| Burgundavia | such a client would rock | 09:45 |
| Burgundavia | as would an ebox module to control a local package cache | 09:45 |
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| freakyy | hi all. i have the following problem since yesterday, after upgrading to gutsy: udevd is taking up 100% of one CPU core. sdb can't be mounted. (device busy) and it isn't mounted. it seems to have something to do with RAID. i uninstalled mdadm but i still have the same problem. more info is here: http://www.freakyy.de/server.txt i would be very appreciated if someone can have look into it and help me. | 14:54 |
| freakyy | and it can't be unmounted | 14:55 |
| freakyy | kernel 2.6.22-14-generic | 14:58 |
| freakyy | is installed and running. | 14:58 |
| soren | freakyy: Is evms installed? | 15:10 |
| _ruben | freakyy: -generic, so not using ubuntu-server? | 15:11 |
| soren | Doesn't matter. | 15:11 |
| c1|freaky | no the generic one | 15:11 |
| c1|freaky | evms | 15:11 |
| c1|freaky | one moment | 15:11 |
| _ruben | asked mainly out of curiousity | 15:11 |
| soren | c1|freaky: "sudo killall udevd ; sudo dpkg -P evms ; sudo reboot" is likely to fix it. | 15:12 |
| c1|freaky | ok ill try | 15:12 |
| c1|freakyy | server reboots | 15:15 |
| c1|freakyy | thank you it worked :DDDDDD | 15:22 |
| soren | c1|freaky: ;) np | 15:25 |
| Zambezi | I'm having problem with Gutsy server. If I say it's slow, I'm lying. It's painfully slow. I have never experienced anything as slow as this. Anyone else got this problem? | 15:34 |
| Zambezi | It's been installing PostgreSQL for several minutes now. | 15:34 |
| soren | Zambezi: Anything interesting in dmesg? | 15:36 |
| sommer | Zambezi: I think the "apt" servers are under heavy load due to the Gutsy release | 15:36 |
| sommer | at least I noticed time outs using apt-get update yesterday | 15:36 |
| Zambezi | soren: Can't check. I'm installing now. | 15:36 |
| soren | Zambezi: Ah, fresh install? | 15:37 |
| Zambezi | sommer: It's the installationpart which is slow. | 15:37 |
| sommer | Zambezi: ah different issue then | 15:37 |
| Zambezi | soren: Yes. I dropped the harddrive from 20 cm. That might be a reason. The installation took like three hours. | 15:37 |
| soren | Zambezi: Switch one of the other virtal consoles (alt-f4 is my favourite) and see what's going on. | 15:37 |
| Zambezi | soren: I'm going to benchmark it later to see if it's normal. | 15:38 |
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| stork | how can i measure the network usage of an application i'm running on a specific port ? | 19:09 |
| ADLongwell | Anybody built their own ubuntu-xen-server-amd64 (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen-meta/+bug/120536)? | 19:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 120536 in xen-meta "[feature req] Can someone generate a ubuntu-xen-server-amd64 package?" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 19:21 |
| zamarax | is it possible to change the sources.list automatically like you can in thedesktop | 20:07 |
| zamarax | I want to upgrade the server and I found a wide open server | 20:08 |
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| mralphabet | zamarax: something other then 'sudo vi sources.list'? | 20:24 |
| lamont | [ 1506.836000] device-mapper: table: 254:5: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed | 21:52 |
| lamont | whats' that mean? | 21:52 |
| elmo | lamont: remove evms | 21:52 |
| lamont | sysrq to the rescue | 21:54 |
| hansin | Once servers cool down, should upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 be pretty safe thing to do? I have installed only .deb files except Asterisk and FreeSwitch, which were installed from source. Would this pose any issues? Thanks. | 22:05 |
| lamont | hansin: yes. I'm doing something extremely stupidly known-to-be-foolish | 22:06 |
| lamont | so pay no attention to my issues | 22:06 |
| lamont | (upgrading directly from dapper to gutsy is, um, really realy not something you should ever consider doing) | 22:07 |
| mralphabet | hansin: you should be fine | 22:10 |
| lamont | hansin: I've had no issues on any of the machines I've taken from feisty to gutsy | 22:11 |
| lamont | using update-manager is the safest way to go, of course | 22:11 |
| Burgundavia | lamont: think of all the fun you will have with dapper --> hardy | 22:14 |
| lamont | Burgundavia: no. think of all the fun update-manager will have. | 22:16 |
| lamont | I don't think any sane individual (other than maybe mvo) will actually do a dist-upgrade to get there | 22:16 |
| ScottK | Not that I qualify as sane or anything, but apt-get dist-upgrade worked just fine for my on my test mail server. | 22:17 |
| lamont | ScottK: dapper->gutsy, or feisty->gutsy? | 22:18 |
| ScottK | feisty - gutsy | 22:18 |
| lamont | one step should "just work" (modulo really weird funky corner cases - like nfs mounts with nfs-common not installed). multi-step is "fraught with peril" | 22:18 |
| ScottK | Come to think of it, I think I did my dapper --> gutsy one that way too and "fraught with peril" is a good description. | 22:19 |
| hansin | lamont: Ok, thanks. I have already 'hand-changed' my /etc/apt/sources.list file to gutsy repos. I have done a sudo apt-get update, and was going to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade once the servers 'cooled down'. I am running test only; can I use update-manager in console? | 22:20 |
| lamont | dunno. :) | 22:20 |
| lamont | personally, I'd just do the dist-upgrade. | 22:20 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 22:20 |
| Burgundavia | there is update-manager-core or something like | 22:20 |
| Burgundavia | that | 22:20 |
| lamont | I did update-manager on my workstation, largely to see what it would do. | 22:20 |
| hansin | lamont: And it is only feisty --> gutsy. | 22:20 |
| lamont | never used it before... | 22:20 |
| hansin | Burgundavia: but do you think I am ok with doing just a dist-upgrade? | 22:21 |
| lamont | how very amusing. I have eth1, and no eth0 | 22:21 |
| lamont | go udev | 22:21 |
| Burgundavia | that works, althought the udpate manager is designed to work around known issues | 22:21 |
| lamont | right. the official program is (generally speaking): dist-upgrade _should_ "just work". update-manager deals with the rough areas where maybe that's not quite the case. | 22:22 |
| hansin | Burgundavia & lamont | 22:22 |
| hansin | Burgundavia & lamont: Thanks. | 22:22 |
| lamont | the debian solution to go a bit slower and introduce a feature in release N, and then never actually use it until N+1 | 22:22 |
| lamont | update-manager deals with the cases where ubuntu introduces a feature and uses it in release N | 22:23 |
| hansin | Now that I have hand-updated my sources.list file and already did an apt-get update, what is the best way to download update-manager-core? I'd hate to use the gutsy version on my fiesty install and screw things up. | 22:33 |
| hansin | Maybe I just dist-upgrade and not worry about it? | 22:34 |
| * ScottK would just dist-upgrade, but YMMV. | 22:35 | |
| hansin | Oh well, I just dist-upgraded. The mirrors/servers seem to ne moving a little better (about 50-100 kB/s). I'm sure I'll be okay, and if not then I just need to fix it (or at least try). | 22:43 |
| hansin | Part of what I notice that Ubuntu does (well, I have seen this with centericq --> centerim), is that a dummy package is created that installs a different package. For example, in Fiesty they use centericq; Gutsy uses centerim. There is a dummy package in Gutsy for centericq that installs centerim. | 22:57 |
| hansin | So hopefully this sort of thing covers all bases from fiesty to gutsy. I'll see what happens... | 23:01 |
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| mastercane | hi @all | 23:29 |
| mastercane | could anybody explain me why important packages like spamassassin or clamav which are needed for most mail- or groupware-setups are located in "universe", not in "main"? | 23:30 |
| mastercane | it really sucks that there are security-bugs in these packages which don't get fixed by ubuntu core team | 23:31 |
| mralphabet | because core team can't be responsible for _every_ package, they work on packages that fit on the install cd . . . and believe it or not, spamassassin or clamav is not required, they are great options and things that should be used, but that is still up to the sysadmin | 23:42 |
| mralphabet | that's just my take | 23:42 |
| mastercane | mralphabet: many business applications / appliances that are built on ubuntu 6.06 LTS needs these packages, so IMO it's more important to keep such packages up2date than to keep homeuser stuff up2date | 23:44 |
| Yahooadam | hey, i want to fsck /dev/sda1 (my / drive) i booted into safe mode | 23:46 |
| Yahooadam | but it says its busy, how do i stop the proccceses using / ? | 23:46 |
| Yahooadam | (i tried fuser -k / - but that stopped rc and bash and messed up my session ...) | 23:46 |
| Q_Continuum | when I run debmirror for Gutsy, I get 'Patch binary missing, falling back to --pdiff=none' - any suggestions? | 23:47 |
| Q_Continuum | Attempting to set up a local mirror...script worked fine for Feisty. | 23:47 |
| mastercane | Yahooadam: what do you mean with safe mode - "init 1" ? | 23:47 |
| Yahooadam | ummm, on the grub boot list there are 2 options (well 3 including memtest) | 23:47 |
| Yahooadam | umm "recovery mode" | 23:48 |
| mralphabet | mastercane: LTS support is a special case, and I don't know that ubuntu has completely solved LTS issues | 23:48 |
| mralphabet | mastercane: there are several people that have needed / required updates to packages that are not in LTS and have had to update their servers to likely fiesty | 23:49 |
| mastercane | mralphabet: an upgrade is not possible, we give support for the systems of our customers, we can not change our pressed cd's, install-cds, software stack, ... within some weeks... | 23:51 |
| mastercane | the last bugs we reported always got resolved in very short time - new packages were integrated in the dapper repos for that | 23:52 |
| mastercane | but this were small issues like deadlocks... | 23:52 |
| Yahooadam | meh i did fsck /dev/sda1 -n and got some errors | 23:53 |
| Yahooadam | so im just gonna start again | 23:53 |
| Yahooadam | (i installed with duff ram, and wanted to make sure the filesystem was ok) | 23:53 |
| mastercane | mralphabet: in addition it's really bad that support for all new servers of the world biggest manufactureres like HP or IBM is not integrated into the LTS kernel | 23:55 |
| Yahooadam | shocking | 23:56 |
| Yahooadam | whats the point of the LTS version ? | 23:56 |
| Yahooadam | who gives support ? | 23:56 |
| Yahooadam | i generally found the support for the latest version to be the best support .... | 23:57 |
| mastercane | but as ISV you can not port your applications to a new ubuntu version every 6 months... | 23:58 |
| Yahooadam | mmmm .... | 23:58 |
| Yahooadam | ISV = ? | 23:58 |
| Yahooadam | anyway, what changes do you need to make? shouldnt you just be able to compile to the latest version and shove it in the reps .... | 23:59 |
| mastercane | ISV = Independent Software Vendor | 23:59 |
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