[01:21] <zylstra555> I am having an FTP issue. When I log into my FTP account (through VSFTPD) I am unable to upload/delete/modify files in any way. How do I correct this issue?
[01:23] <zylstra555> (This is a very quiet channel...)
[01:50] <hansin> Yeah, I add to the congrats and also a thanks for putting out Ubuntu-Server edition.  I have not updated to 7.10 yet, but I have been happy with all the previous versions.
[01:50] <hansin> Very happy, actually.
[02:00] <mikeo2> lol installing ubuntu-server if you have a mouse with extra buttons (like a logitech mx530) and you hit the middle button during the install it restarts the machine
[04:21] <ScottK> mikeo2: Please file a bug if you haven't.
[06:08] <kgoetz> hi all, can someone look at this? i've blown way the debian-sys-maint user in y mysql database, so it cant start
[06:08] <kgoetz> but to reconfigurit the script wants to stop it first, which it cant do, because it wont start
[06:08] <kgoetz> http://pastebin.ca/742031
[06:09] <kgoetz> and is this a bug? surely you shold be able to reconfigure when its not working without it already running?
[06:18] <sommer> kgoetz: I think you need to re-add the debian-sys-maint user.  You can find the password in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[06:19] <kgoetz> sommer: the password is hashed (looks like it anyway)
[06:19] <sommer> kgoetz: in the database or the file?  the one in the file shouldn't be I believe... I could be wrong though
[06:20] <sommer> you could always try it and see if it works... :)
[06:23] <kgoetz> sommer: it might just be a complex password *goes to test*
[06:25] <sommer> kgoetz: sounds good.  It's sleepy time for me, but if you still have issues I'm sure some one else can help.
[06:25] <kgoetz> sommer: thanks, sleep well
[06:37] <kgoetz> sommer: thanks, reset the password and mysqld starts again (even if it isnt just listing on localhost now)
[07:37] <kraut> moin
[07:56] <_ruben> g'day
[07:57] <Helvasca> hey guys, I'm looking at setting up a computer to connect to a thin client, what should I have on the computer..?
[07:59] <Burgundavia> install ltsp
[07:59] <Helvasca> I've got the server fine.
[08:00] <Helvasca> what about on the computer that I want to connect "from"
[08:04] <Burgundavia> you need a NIC with PXE
[08:04] <Helvasca> thanks
[08:05] <Burgundavia> or a boot cd
[08:11] <nmersi> Does anyone know if Canonical is going to put vmware-server packages in a repository for gutsy like they did for feisty?
[08:25] <nmersi> I had a small problem updating my server from 7.04 to 7.10 (yes I know perhaps was a bit early!) and it stopped upgrading bacula backup. It was only a parsing error because of change in syntax of conf and I modified it. The point is how do I know the rest of upgrade is ok?
[08:35] <Zambezi> How is Gutsy running as firewall?
[08:36] <Burgundavia> as any good distribution is
[08:40] <Zambezi> Burgundavia: I have pfSense now, but I need to put two servers together to save money.
[09:38] <soren> Zambezi: The plumbing to do that is missing, but it's on my todo list for Hardy.
[09:38] <soren> Zambezi: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/redundant-firewall
[09:38] <ivoks> i'm not familliar with tomcat
[09:38] <ivoks> is it chrooted in ubuntu? :)
[09:39] <ivoks> cause it returns it can't exec one file... :/
[09:40] <ivoks> bbl
[09:40] <soren> ivoks: No idea. readlink /proc/$PID/root ?
[09:41] <ivoks> yeah... it's not
[09:41] <ivoks> see you later...
[09:41] <Burgundavia> soren: you planning do ebox for hardy?
[09:42] <soren> Burgundavia: Yes.
[09:42] <_ruben> soren: looks nice (the blueprint)
[09:42] <Burgundavia> rocking
[09:42] <soren> _ruben: I've got most of the stuff packaged already. I just need to upload and test.
[09:42] <_ruben> sweet
[09:43] <Burgundavia> soren: how does the SOAP interface work with ebox?
[09:43] <Burgundavia> will it let us a create an "ebox-client
[09:44] <Burgundavia> " package to instlal on desktops to control them?
[09:44] <soren> Burgundavia: AFAIR it's meant to make it possible to administer several eBox instances (on multiple machines) from just one web interface.
[09:44] <soren> Burgundavia: To my knowledge, there's not a new client in the works.
[09:44] <Burgundavia> right
[09:45] <Burgundavia> such a client would rock
[09:45] <Burgundavia> as would an ebox module to control a local package cache
[14:54] <freakyy> hi all. i have the following problem since yesterday, after upgrading to gutsy: udevd is taking up 100% of one CPU core. sdb can't be mounted. (device busy) and it isn't mounted. it seems to have something to do with RAID. i uninstalled mdadm but i still have the same problem. more info is here: http://www.freakyy.de/server.txt i would be very appreciated if someone can have look into it and help me.
[14:55] <freakyy> and it can't be unmounted
[14:58] <freakyy> kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[14:58] <freakyy> is installed and running.
[15:10] <soren> freakyy: Is evms installed?
[15:11] <_ruben> freakyy: -generic, so not using ubuntu-server?
[15:11] <soren> Doesn't matter.
[15:11] <c1|freaky> no the generic one
[15:11] <c1|freaky> evms
[15:11] <c1|freaky> one moment
[15:11] <_ruben> asked mainly out of curiousity
[15:12] <soren> c1|freaky: "sudo killall udevd ; sudo dpkg -P evms ; sudo reboot" is likely to fix it.
[15:12] <c1|freaky> ok ill try
[15:15] <c1|freakyy> server reboots
[15:22] <c1|freakyy> thank you it worked :DDDDDD
[15:25] <soren> c1|freaky: ;) np
[15:34] <Zambezi> I'm having problem with Gutsy server. If I say it's slow, I'm lying. It's painfully slow. I have never experienced anything as slow as this. Anyone else got this problem?
[15:34] <Zambezi> It's been installing PostgreSQL for several minutes now.
[15:36] <soren> Zambezi: Anything interesting in dmesg?
[15:36] <sommer> Zambezi: I think the "apt" servers are under heavy load due to the Gutsy release
[15:36] <sommer> at least I noticed time outs using apt-get update yesterday
[15:36] <Zambezi> soren: Can't check. I'm installing now.
[15:37] <soren> Zambezi: Ah, fresh install?
[15:37] <Zambezi> sommer: It's the installationpart which is slow.
[15:37] <sommer> Zambezi: ah different issue then
[15:37] <Zambezi> soren: Yes. I dropped the harddrive from 20 cm. That might be a reason. The installation took like three hours.
[15:37] <soren> Zambezi: Switch one of the other virtal consoles (alt-f4 is my favourite) and see what's going on.
[15:38] <Zambezi> soren: I'm going to benchmark it later to see if it's normal.
[19:09] <stork> how can i measure the network usage of an application i'm running on a specific port ?
[19:21] <ADLongwell> Anybody built their own ubuntu-xen-server-amd64 (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen-meta/+bug/120536)?
[19:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120536 in xen-meta "[feature req] Can someone generate a ubuntu-xen-server-amd64 package?" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[20:07] <zamarax> is it possible to change the sources.list automatically like you can in thedesktop
[20:08] <zamarax> I want to upgrade the server and I found a wide open server
[20:24] <mralphabet> zamarax: something other then 'sudo vi sources.list'?
[21:52] <lamont> [ 1506.836000] device-mapper: table: 254:5: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[21:52] <lamont> whats' that mean?
[21:52] <elmo> lamont: remove evms
[21:54] <lamont> sysrq to the rescue
[22:05] <hansin> Once servers cool down, should upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 be pretty safe thing to do?  I have installed only .deb files except Asterisk and FreeSwitch, which were installed from source.  Would this pose any issues?  Thanks.
[22:06] <lamont> hansin: yes.  I'm doing something extremely stupidly known-to-be-foolish
[22:06] <lamont> so pay no attention to my issues
[22:07] <lamont> (upgrading directly from dapper to gutsy is, um, really realy not something you should ever consider doing)
[22:10] <mralphabet> hansin: you should be fine
[22:11] <lamont> hansin: I've had no issues on any of the machines I've taken from feisty to gutsy
[22:11] <lamont> using update-manager is the safest way to go, of course
[22:14] <Burgundavia> lamont: think of all the fun you will have with dapper --> hardy
[22:16] <lamont> Burgundavia: no.  think of all the fun update-manager will have.
[22:16] <lamont> I don't think any sane individual (other than maybe mvo) will actually do a dist-upgrade to get there
[22:17] <ScottK> Not that I qualify as sane or anything, but apt-get dist-upgrade worked just fine for my on my test mail server.
[22:18] <lamont> ScottK: dapper->gutsy, or feisty->gutsy?
[22:18] <ScottK> feisty - gutsy
[22:18] <lamont> one step should "just work" (modulo really weird funky corner cases - like nfs mounts with nfs-common not installed).  multi-step is "fraught with peril"
[22:19] <ScottK> Come to think of it, I think I did my dapper --> gutsy one that way too and "fraught with peril" is a good description.
[22:20] <hansin> lamont: Ok, thanks.  I have already 'hand-changed' my /etc/apt/sources.list file to gutsy repos.  I have done a sudo apt-get update, and was going to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade once the servers 'cooled down'.  I am running test only; can I use update-manager in console?
[22:20] <lamont> dunno. :)
[22:20] <lamont> personally, I'd just do the dist-upgrade.
[22:20] <Burgundavia> yes
[22:20] <Burgundavia> there is update-manager-core or something like
[22:20] <Burgundavia> that
[22:20] <lamont> I did update-manager on my workstation, largely to see what it would do.
[22:20] <hansin> lamont: And it is only feisty --> gutsy.
[22:20] <lamont> never used it before...
[22:21] <hansin> Burgundavia: but do you think I am ok with doing just a dist-upgrade?
[22:21] <lamont> how very amusing.  I have eth1, and no eth0
[22:21] <lamont> go udev
[22:21] <Burgundavia> that works, althought the udpate manager is designed to work around known issues
[22:22] <lamont> right.  the official program is (generally speaking): dist-upgrade _should_ "just work".  update-manager deals with the rough areas where maybe that's not quite the case.
[22:22] <hansin> Burgundavia & lamont
[22:22] <hansin> Burgundavia & lamont: Thanks.
[22:22] <lamont> the debian solution to go a bit slower and introduce a feature in release N, and then never actually use it until N+1
[22:23] <lamont> update-manager deals with the cases where ubuntu introduces a feature and uses it in release N
[22:33] <hansin> Now that I have hand-updated my sources.list file and already did an apt-get update, what is the best way to download update-manager-core?  I'd hate to use the gutsy version on my fiesty install and screw things up.
[22:34] <hansin> Maybe I just dist-upgrade and not worry about it?
[22:35]  * ScottK would just dist-upgrade, but YMMV.
[22:43] <hansin> Oh well, I just dist-upgraded.  The mirrors/servers seem to ne moving a little better (about 50-100 kB/s).  I'm sure I'll be okay, and if not then I just need to fix it (or at least try).
[22:57] <hansin> Part of what I notice that Ubuntu does (well, I have seen this with centericq --> centerim), is that a dummy package is created that installs a different package.  For example, in Fiesty they use centericq; Gutsy uses centerim.  There is a dummy package in Gutsy for centericq that installs centerim.
[23:01] <hansin> So hopefully this sort of thing covers all bases from fiesty to gutsy.  I'll see what happens...
[23:29] <mastercane> hi @all
[23:30] <mastercane> could anybody explain me why important packages like spamassassin or clamav which are needed for most mail- or groupware-setups are located in "universe", not in "main"?
[23:31] <mastercane> it really sucks that there are security-bugs in these packages which don't get fixed by ubuntu core team
[23:42] <mralphabet> because core team can't be responsible for _every_ package, they work on packages that fit on the install cd . . . and believe it or not, spamassassin or clamav is not required, they are great options and things that should be used, but that is still up to the sysadmin
[23:42] <mralphabet> that's just my take
[23:44] <mastercane> mralphabet: many business applications / appliances that are built on ubuntu 6.06 LTS needs these packages, so IMO it's more important to keep such packages up2date than to keep homeuser stuff up2date
[23:46] <Yahooadam> hey, i want to fsck /dev/sda1 (my / drive) i booted into safe mode
[23:46] <Yahooadam> but it says its busy, how do i stop the proccceses using / ?
[23:46] <Yahooadam> (i tried fuser -k / - but that stopped rc and bash and messed up my session ...)
[23:47] <Q_Continuum> when I run debmirror for Gutsy, I get 'Patch binary missing, falling back to --pdiff=none' - any suggestions?
[23:47] <Q_Continuum> Attempting to set up a local mirror...script worked fine for Feisty.
[23:47] <mastercane> Yahooadam: what do you mean with safe mode - "init 1" ?
[23:47] <Yahooadam> ummm, on the grub boot list there are 2 options (well 3 including memtest)
[23:48] <Yahooadam> umm "recovery mode"
[23:48] <mralphabet> mastercane: LTS support is a special case, and I don't know that ubuntu has completely solved LTS issues
[23:49] <mralphabet> mastercane: there are several people that have needed / required updates to packages that are not in LTS and have had to update their servers to likely fiesty
[23:51] <mastercane> mralphabet: an upgrade is not possible, we give support for the systems of our customers, we can not change our pressed cd's, install-cds, software stack, ... within some weeks...
[23:52] <mastercane> the last bugs we reported always got resolved in very short time - new packages were integrated in the dapper repos for that
[23:52] <mastercane> but this were small issues like deadlocks...
[23:53] <Yahooadam> meh i did fsck /dev/sda1 -n and got some errors
[23:53] <Yahooadam> so im just gonna start again
[23:53] <Yahooadam> (i installed with duff ram, and wanted to make sure the filesystem was ok)
[23:55] <mastercane> mralphabet: in addition it's really bad that support for all new servers of the world biggest manufactureres like HP or IBM is not integrated into the LTS kernel
[23:56] <Yahooadam> shocking
[23:56] <Yahooadam> whats the point of the LTS version ?
[23:56] <Yahooadam> who gives support ?
[23:57] <Yahooadam> i generally found the support for the latest version to be the best support ....
[23:58] <mastercane> but as ISV you can not port your applications to a new ubuntu version every 6 months...
[23:58] <Yahooadam> mmmm ....
[23:58] <Yahooadam> ISV = ?
[23:59] <Yahooadam> anyway, what changes do you need to make? shouldnt you just be able to compile to the latest version and shove it in the reps ....
[23:59] <mastercane> ISV = Independent Software Vendor