[00:18] hi folks, having some supremely frustrating newbie times... can anyone give a hand with network setup? (intel c2d, imac, 7.04)... [00:18] !anyone [00:18] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [00:20] argh firefox won't compile [00:20] :( [00:21] 10-4, just trying to be polite/seeing it anyone is paying attention :) anyway, can't get either wireless or wired connections going, but I'm tackling the wired first. In system/Network Settings, under the connections tab, I go into the properties for "Wired connection", and have it set to DHCP, but cannot connect... shouldn't there be somewhere for me to enter my password and username and such for a DSL connection? [00:25] I think you need "Modem connection" if you connect to a modem [00:25] theDeul, do you connect to a router or only a modem? [00:26] directly to the DSL modem [00:26] not dial-up [00:27] if it is a modem you need "Modem connection" imo [00:27] do you have that in the connections tab? [00:27] has anyone gotten their mic working with wine and steam [00:27] magic_ninja, try #winehq? [00:29] yes, but it seems that the "modem connection" setting is for dial up connections... it asks for a phone number to dial to, etc. I'm looking for DHCP connection to a DSL modem (ethernet). "modem connection" has no options for dhcp ethernet connections [00:31] did you check, after you configured the "Wired connection", if you are connected to your modem? [00:31] sorry I'm just confused.. guess I can't help you [00:32] thx anyway... [00:33] I just expected to see a username and password field in "wired connection", but find none... only the option to have either static IP or DHCP [00:38] oh, just found some better instructions.. think I was following the wrong guide... thanks anyway guys, I appreciate your help. [00:44] hi again. this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/internet/C/connect-to-internet.html) says I need to run a program called pppoeconf, which doesn't appear to be on my system. the guide says to install the package from the CD, but I have no idea how to do this.. [00:45] so I guess the question is how do you install packages from a liveCD? [01:07] Is there any way to force update-manager to upGRADE from the Gutsy CD? [01:08] I've upDATEd packages from the CD in the package manager, but the Upgrade Manager only seems to download from remote sources. [01:43] wow. [01:44] did anyone.. you know.. run gutsy before releasing it? [01:44] * R[a]ndom goes off to find a new distro [01:47] fortunately there are plenty [01:48] anyone use opera? [01:49] looks like R[a]ndom has found bugs? Or just generally dislikes it? [01:49] opera, yeah. [01:49] bugs is an understatement [01:49] LastMall know how to use .ini with it? [01:49] but yeah. random found bugs :P [01:50] cheeseboy what you mean ? [01:50] ya? basic stuff on the system, or are you trying some craziness? [01:50] LastMall someone made a toolbar.ini for it [01:50] but is for opera 7 [01:50] :( [01:50] so it won't work [01:50] malcolmb, things like booting XFCE failed horribly [01:51] cheeseboy there's been a complete rewrite of opera since version 7 [01:51] well, I could see the screen as long as I killall'd xfwm4 [01:51] but then it was kinda hard to use [01:51] LastMall yes i know [01:51] I finally had to install ubuntu-desktop to get something I can see [01:51] cheeseboy so chances are it won't work [01:51] LastMall i was hoping someone could update toolbar.ini [01:51] where do i find repository mirrors [01:51] its very short [01:52] trying to update but the ubuntu servers keep timing out [01:52] R[a]ndom: that's weird. I have Ubuntu on my laptop right now and I just went and installed xubuntu-desktop through that [01:52] so no login errors for me as yet [01:52] LastMall can you help? [01:53] malcolmb, I dont doubt it. of course it works for some, or they actually woudlnt have released it [01:53] cheeseboy no [01:53] :( [01:53] the installer also got confused when deleting partitions, so the install failed, and I had to reboot after partitioning [01:54] it was super laggy before installing the nvidia drivers. after installing the nvidia drivers the text was like 2pt [01:54] couldnt read anything [01:54] ouch [01:54] luckily I remembered what the screen config icon looked like [01:54] and I cant make heads or tails of this new xorg.conf. heh [01:55] well [01:55] login to shell first instead maybe, [01:55] text edit xorg.conf through there instead? [01:55] reset that back to a basic driver [01:56] yeah, I could do that. but TBH, I think I'm just going to use another distro. I've been meaning to switch for a while, but the big hoopbla of gutsy got me interested [01:56] http://fosswire.com/2007/08/17/ubuntu-getting-xorgconf-gui/ [01:57] hah. 'open link in browser' doesnt work anymore [01:57] nice. [01:58] if that was for me, LastMall I know about that utility [01:58] and it works so well that my screen pans around, even though I'm running it at 1600x1200 [01:58] :P [01:58] heh [01:58] cleary you're quite clever, just unlucky. [01:59] that sentiment right there is almost enough to make me stay. :) [02:05] is there a way to set my computer to shut itself down after a set amount of time? [02:06] cause I need to go home and dont want to leave the computer on all night cause the power is in and out [02:06] yes shutdown -r i think [02:06] see shutdown --help [02:09] hi there, I'm trying to install adobe flashplayer, but when I try to run the install program (by entering "$ ./flashplayer-installer" in the unarchived location) I get the response "bash: $: command not found". Any ideas? [02:10] make it executable? [02:10] chmod +x flashplayer-installer [02:10] isnt it .sh? [02:10] been ages since ive done that.. [02:11] on another note, firefox installes flash itself in gutsy does it not? [02:11] sorry guys, extreme newbie alert, not really sure what you're telling me to do... [02:11] I'm in 7.04 [02:11] ah ok [02:11] malcolmb, its sposed to [02:11] :P [02:11] there you go [02:11] $ chmod +X flashplayer-installer [02:11] $ ./flashplayer-installer [02:11] thanks I'll try that [02:11] $ thanks linux! [02:11] so ya, probably the flashplayer-installer file needs to be set as a program you can run [02:11] so that command [02:11] theDeul, lower case x [02:12] typo on my side [02:12] (that's what I just told'em) [02:12] malcolmb, yeah be he wanted to hear it again ;) [02:12] does that work? [02:12] at times [02:12] I mean theDeul, does that work? [02:12] hehe [02:13] I get "bash: $: command not found" after the chmod. Is that saying that "$" is a command that isn't found? [02:13] oh [02:13] dont type the $ [02:13] ooooh [02:13] $ is the prompt [02:14] oooooh [02:14] lol [02:14] oooooh [02:14] :) [02:14] hahah [02:14] good stuff [02:14] I did that in my day. [02:14] ha ha there we go... thanks! [02:15] now, all that's left to do is upgrade to 7.10! [02:15] though if you have Random's luck everything might break [02:15] (but you won't) [02:16] how necessary is that right now? [02:16] probly best to wait a few days anyways [02:17] servers are on a high load and slow [02:17] theDeul, wait. the servers are really slow [02:17] on install mine hung waiting for the servers [02:17] I had to pull the network cable after 10 mins to make it keep going [02:17] okie dokie... I think I'll spend some time getting used to this stuff... just switched from OS X [02:17] it's actually taken me like an hour to install xubuntu packages...only 60 megs [02:17] nice [02:17] theDeul, yeah theres no rush at all to upgrade [02:17] any reason you chose xubuntu? [02:18] rather than? [02:18] malcolmb, I found a repo that goes at 500k/sec no prob ;) [02:18] ouch [02:18] theDeul, ubuntu, kubuntu, fluxbunt [02:18] damn these canadian servers! [02:18] it was a canadian server [02:18] lemme look 'er up [02:18] saw some new screenshots for fluxubuntu, it looks real nice [02:18] mmm.. just that I know it's easy on resources... that's all really... don't know much else about it [02:18] ya that's about it? [02:19] malcolmb, ubuntu.mirror.rafal.ca [02:19] it's still a good intro to linux [02:19] because it's easy on the configuration options and pretty usable [02:19] now I need to get a few other things working: audio and wireless [02:19] wow [02:19] R[a]ndom, if I add a repo do I need to do gpg key signing on them everytime? [02:19] malcolmb, nope [02:19] wow is right [02:20] oh ya, theDeul [02:20] one the about gutsy is that with 7.10 gutsy [02:20] ^ o.O [02:20] a program, network-manager is better [02:20] in 7.04 it's bugged [02:20] ah, [02:20] thats the most confusing phrase ever. [02:20] "one the about gutsy is that with 7.10 gutsy" [02:20] any advice in terms of getting my audio working [02:20] ? [02:21] I havent had to troubleshoot audio in ages. [02:21] is it a laptop? [02:21] or some high end audio card? [02:21] one *thing* about gutsy is that there's the network-manager program that works properly and makes wireless a snap [02:21] no, core2duo imac [02:21] in 7.04 the program doesn't work as well [02:21] (it's been a long day) [02:21] theDeul, the google perhaps? I dunno. [02:21] I figured out what you were saying already ;) [02:22] if you do google about, remember that ubuntu is the same thing as xubuntu [02:22] so most of the solutions work [02:22] yeah, that's my next stop... Thanks guys... big help. [02:22] np [02:22] oh thats the other great thing about xubuntu [02:22] the irc channel is nicer :) [02:22] lower volume [02:23] cool.. well I'm pretty sure I'll be back sometime soon, so ttfn and thanks again! [02:23] cya [02:23] np cya [02:25] ok lets try out this new repo [02:26] nice, full speed [02:26] How do I convert MPEG video to Ogg theora? [02:27] malcolmb, I used the fancy new repo chooser to find it [02:27] it was almost slick [02:27] if only the timeouts for the pings werent set to like 30 seconds [02:27] so it took for freakin ever [02:27] guys, if it doesnt respond in 4 seconds, I dont care what the ping is :P [02:28] like the "find best server"? [02:29] yeh [02:29] ya looks good [02:29] I never tried to do that before [02:29] dont click it now :P [02:29] most of the time there's no problems that come up [02:29] haha [02:29] good point [02:29] a lot of servers time out [02:29] and it waits for them [02:29] what are the chances [02:29] and the first time I ran it, when it was almost done, the window disappeared [02:29] How do I convert MPEG video to Ogg theora? [02:29] ok! [02:29] How do I convert MPEG video to Ogg theora? [02:29] How do I convert MPEG video to Ogg theora? [02:29] brb [02:30] if I only, was an op. [02:30] that was quick [02:31] where abouts in canada are you? [02:31] Toronto [02:31] just finished installing xubuntu [02:32] and whiched over [02:32] neato. I'm at broadway and danforth [02:32] broadway station [02:32] nice [02:32] broadview [02:32] I'm tired too obviously [02:32] hah [02:32] pretty sick now [02:32] compiz and awn in Xfce [02:32] I never got anywhere near compiz. [02:32] it's super easy in gutsy [02:32] * R[a]ndom devowers malcolmb's brains [02:33] and all works pretty well now [02:33] yeah, gutsy is great [02:33] it all just works [02:33] hahah [02:33] who was having problems with video 20 min ago? [02:33] <- [02:33] so you work? student? [02:33] either way, I'm off installing another distro. [02:33] going to Fsoss? [02:33] haha [02:34] ryerson. electrical engineering [02:34] baaam [02:34] Ryerson, ITM [02:34] ill be back in like 3.. [02:34] itm? [02:34] 30 mins or so, if youre sticking around [02:34] ya i'll be around [02:34] itm? [02:34] information technology managment [02:34] you are? [02:34] in the business building [02:34] ya [02:34] niice [02:34] what year? [02:34] 3rd [02:34] hah! [02:34] taking coop [02:35] msn: iwishiwasntstuck@hotmail.com if for some reason i don't return. don't find many fellow linux users [02:35] anyway [02:35] away I go [02:35] ok [02:37] what is different with xubuntu [02:37] different compared to what ? [02:38] ubuntu [02:42] hah [02:42] now look at that dif [02:42] I'm installing driva now [02:42] it loaded the nvidia driver during the installer [02:42] and I have a composited environment for installing. [02:42] that's an improvement [02:43] and the partitioner is graphical and beautiful [02:44] lets hope that translates into "it did fuck up my file system" [02:44] didn't* [02:44] heh [02:46] sorry, so what did you say you take, malcolmb? [02:46] I have the horrible memory. [02:46] okay i have a big problem, i get the error "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" can anyone help please [02:47] about? [02:47] are you using the floppy? [02:47] no [02:47] then that doesnt sound like a big deal [02:47] its telling you the floppy is unhappy [02:47] it machine doesnt have a floppy [02:47] thats probably why its unhappy. [02:47] random, are you going to Fsoss next week? [02:47] the machine has a drive where you can but a floppy disk or a cd drive [02:48] malcolmb: maybe if you tell me what it is [02:48] so i have to cd drive in [02:48] jimmyww: did you change while the system was running? [02:48] no [02:48] hm. dunno then. a driver issue of some sort? [02:48] I'm really not the one to be answering questions. heh [02:48] so what do i do to fix [02:49] ? [02:50] dunno. I'm not much of a support person. [02:50] random: open source symposium at seneca next week [02:50] malcolmb: probably not. 3 midterms, and I'm installing a new OS instead of studying [02:50] random, where do you think i could get an answer to this [02:51] jimmyww: google, #ubuntu perhaps. maybe here with other people here [02:51] hahaha, [02:51] I just came to complain about trouble I was having [02:51] thx [02:51] http://fsoss.senecac.on.ca/2007/ [02:51] lots comes up on google but no fixes [02:51] o/ [02:52] jimmyww: are you back from the google already? [02:52] theres no way you looked in that amount of time [02:52] REBOOTS [02:52] random, i have looked before [02:52] anyone else haveing gtk troubles after the dist-upgrade? [02:53] hello? [02:57] there's some people have problems [02:57] so no one has a fix for the error "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" i get on the live cd [02:57] not sure if anyones had that problem [02:57] not that, some gtk lib issues [02:58] that i cant seem to fix [02:58] right now i am recompileing gtk 2.10.13 from source [03:03] Heya everybody, what's up? :) [03:04] i am haveing huge problems with GTK after trying the dist upgrade [03:04] and so far no one nor google can help me [03:04] What kind of problems? [03:04] like no GUIs will start up [03:04] they just throw out an error [03:05] but ones already running are wokring [03:05] also ubuntu-desktop kills apt-get when i try to install it [03:05] "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl" [03:06] i am recomplileing gtk from source right now [03:06] also i never knew how slow this channel is [03:08] I've not been here for a while. It used to be populated. Maybe everybody else is just clueless about that problem, like me unfortunately. [03:09] like try saying seven sentences in #ubuntu [03:09] Haha, no, that's a newbie mistake. Wise people don't even join that horror. :P [03:11] well it seems like i would get more opinions from a wider range of people there [03:13] ya, you'll get help no doubt [03:13] but calling it a horror....that's just...correct [03:21] now, how can I set up window decorations to use with compiz in xubuntu? [03:21] not sure what I need to do for this [03:23] well compiz is a window manager [03:23] not just a window decorator [03:23] so the same way you do it in anyway [03:24] anyone know why the Xubuntu alternate is so much bigger than the desktop? [03:27] malcolmb, Start emerald. [03:28] thanks [03:36] bam, emerald-theme-manager is cool too. Never used anything like that [03:39] It's... complicated. And on top it doesn't allow me to setup the buttons like I want. [03:39] So it's not that cool actually. [03:40] ah, ok [03:40] I take and back, instead: it's cool because after 2 seconds nothing is broken [03:41] Hehe, speaking of the whole unstable compiz thing you're probably right. [03:42] Oh my, that nick makes me think of the game "Tron 2". [04:01] i hope the kernel didnt panic /bad joke [04:03] ok. I'm stumped [04:04] and strangely enough on gutsy again [04:04] anyone have multi mon set up in gutsy? [04:11] Hi, xubuntu desktop 7.10 prompts for user and pass someone knows it? [04:14] so no one has a fix for "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" [04:20] "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" help please [04:20] your floppy disk is dirty? [04:20] no floppy drive [04:21] hmm [04:21] it has a cd drive [04:21] that can be swapped for a floppy [04:21] oh a laptop [04:22] keb, do you have any idea how to fix [04:22] well in windows there is a swap utility you use before ejecting the drive and putting in the cd, i dont know if there is some command you should use to init the swappable drive bay [04:23] in ubuntu [04:24] im not sure what you mean [04:26] jimmyww_ is it an ibm ? http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_hotswap_UltraBay_devices [04:28] the error occurs on the live cds [04:28] oh so you can't even boot [04:29] no [04:29] i cant use alternatate cd aswell as i have to use a live cd, [04:30] anyone who knows de user and pass for the live cd ?? [04:30] too complicated to explain that [04:30] thoughg [04:31] jimmyww_ was able to install using the text version https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13922 [04:31] *someine [04:31] *someone [04:32] lol [04:32] keb, i need a live cd [04:32] ok [04:32] because computers not mine yet [04:32] only if i get a live cd working [04:34] jimmyww_ can you disable the floppy drive from the bios? [04:35] yes, but then it does some other erro [04:35] r [04:35] um then it just loads and gives me a busybox thing or similar [04:40] someone on the ubuntu irc suggested it is a cd error [04:40] when i choose check for defects i got the same error [04:40] yeah someone also said if they used a plan cd-rom drive instead of combo dvd/cdrw drive it worked for them [04:40] *plain [04:40] im going to burn to cd again really slow [04:41] thiss is a plan cd drive [04:50] hmm maybe someone needs to make a live cd with floppy in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist [04:50] i wonder if that can be done ad hoc by booting from the alternate cd [04:51] really this is my first shot at linux (im 15) so im a newbie [04:52] np, just thinking out loud here ;) [04:52] trying with new cd now [04:52] should i choose check cd for defects? [04:53] sure [04:53] i just hit enter [04:53] load keneral 100% [04:53] that will at least verify that the cd drive works and the disk is ok [04:53] the scrolling thing is moving back and forth across the screen like normal [04:54] still going [04:54] still going [04:55] blank screen now [04:55] with flashing _ [04:55] give it a few minutes [04:56] and now [ 144.652000] Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 [04:56]