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pvangundyhello00:58
LaserJock_hi00:59
pvangundycan some one give me a name or email address of an individual I can contact in regards to issues with the current Edubuntu kernel?01:00
pvangundynot so much issues, more limitations01:00
LaserJock_hmm01:00
LaserJock_you could email the ubuntu-kernel list maybe01:00
pvangundynot a bad idea...i just didn't know if the project was forked in a way that each had it's own kernel development01:01
pvangundyyou see, the kernel doesn't have high mem built into the kernel01:01
pvangundybecause it uses the generic kernel it only recognizes up to roughly 3gigs of memory even if you have more installed01:02
LaserJock_oh, right01:02
pvangundyThis is a very bad thing for individuals running Edubuntu that have servers with more than 3gigs due load/usage01:02
LaserJock_the -server kernel has higher memory support01:03
pvangundycorrect01:03
pvangundyi switched the individual to that and they have experienced crashes frequently01:03
pvangundywe went back to the generic kernel and all is well....very weird01:03
LaserJock_yeah, so that's just a question of whether Edubuntu should ship -generic or -sever by default01:03
LaserJock_right, I've been following the thread on that01:03
pvangundycool, so it's been talked about01:04
pvangundyi didn't know that. :)01:04
pvangundyi was told by this individual that they talked to ogra or sbalneav (don't remember which) recently and they said that the generic kernel has a wider range of support for devices and such01:05
pvangundythat's why it's in there01:05
pvangundyif that's the case01:05
pvangundycompile a kernel based off of the generic kernel (using the .config) and add  high mem support...just an idea01:06
LaserJock_well01:07
LaserJock_it's not exactly that easy01:07
pvangundywhy01:08
LaserJock_well, kernel maintenance is very time consuming and difficult01:08
LaserJock_if you could convince the Ubuntu kernel maintainers that high mem support should be in -generic then fine01:08
LaserJock_but I'm thinking they probably don't have it in there for a reason01:09
pvangundyi know, I compile maintain and compile the kernel where I work. That's why you use the old .config to have the majority of the work done for you then add the support you need. :)01:09
pvangundytrue, and you did answer my question01:09
pvangundyi should pose this to the kernel developers/maintainers. I just didn't know if they might be in here as well01:09
pvangundyand i would also think they don't have it in there for a reason and that's why it's not...maybe why we experienced crashes. :)01:10
LaserJock_yeah, Edubuntu just uses Ubuntu kernels01:10
LaserJock_what we *can* do, IMO, is have better documentation maybe so people aren't caught off-guard01:11
pvangundyyup01:11
pvangundyyou can never have too much documentation01:11
pvangundywell, what I am going to do is compile a vanilla kernel based off of the .config from the generic kernel and add high mem support and see how that goes (since we tried server version and it crashed frequently). I will come back and report at a later date and try to push high mem support through the mainstream kernel Ubuntu releases for Edubuntu01:15
pvangundynice chatting01:15
LaserJock_pvangundy: no problem, and feel free to email edubuntu-devel or ubuntu-kernel01:16
pvangundythanks01:16
pvangundyi'll stay in this channel just in case this spurs a talk later when people on here wake up ;)01:17
LaserJock_heh, yeah, it's kind of a dead time of day01:17
pvangundyi see that ;)01:17
LaserJock_it's also the start of the weekend01:18
pvangundyyeah, that should tell you something about me :p01:18
sbalneavEvening all01:38
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pvangundyalright, i'm off01:42
pvangundytalk to you all later01:42
bluekujaogra, around?10:39
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high5Hello, does anybody have any experience with setting the thin clients in the Gutsy release?11:11
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MilHola, hola14:05
Milalguien que hable espaƱol?14:06
Milhello14:06
Milcant readme14:06
Mil?14:06
MilBueno, la cosa es asi14:07
Milsoy docente14:07
Mily quiero que mi live CD de Edubuntu incluya Gambas14:07
ctkroekerhave the ltsp5 packages been updated also for ubuntu and not just edubuntu?16:46
justi1hello, I'm having trouble setting up dhcp on my edubuntu ltsp server.  I have two NIC's and I want one to listen to dhcp requests for the thin clients and the other to connect to the rest of the network.  I've read that that should be possible, but I can't find detailed instructions on how to do so.  Could any of you point me in the right direction?19:38
nrpjusti1, since 7.04 and possibly earlier, it should set it up automatically during install.  Like, during the install, if it detects two NICs, itll ask which one is the primary one, and use that to connect to the rest of the network.  And then it'll use the other NIC for the dhcp server19:44
justi1well, I selected the correct primary one, as I am connected to the rest of the network, however, my clients won't boot from the other NIC.  Is there a command or configuration file that I can use to tell for sure that dhcp is or isn't working on the other NIC?19:48
nrphmm, well, not sure if dhcpd starts by default, try restarting dhcpd and see if there are any error messages in syslog20:18
justi1I restarted dhcpd - no errors in syslog and the client won't boot.20:27
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