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h3sp4wn!info b43-fwcutter00:00
ubotuPackage b43-fwcutter does not exist in gutsy00:00
Dr_willisI would still LOVE to see a compiz setting/module/tool that just shows ALL the keyboard shutcuts that are in use.00:00
Dr_willis!find fwcutter00:00
ubotuFound: bcm43xx-fwcutter00:00
kotelowho is going to fix the snapshot number six?00:00
kotelowho is going to fix the snapshot number six?00:00
kotelowho is going to fix the snapshot number six?00:00
kotelo:S00:00
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis :D00:00
koteloreally00:00
kotelofix it00:00
koteloxD00:00
MinatakuSay, Dr_Willis, why not come to #kubuntu-offtopic ? :300:00
Dr_willisHay Min.00:00
h3sp4wnDr_willis: I thought you hated compiz ?00:00
Dr_willish3sp4wn,  theres so far 2 features of it i like. the rest is just fluff :)00:01
Dr_willisand it still needs a lot of work.00:01
dvayanuso... where can i find help with fonts?00:01
Dr_willisdvayanu,  depends on the problem :)00:01
sven_who knows the name of the compiz effect where clikcing on a window that is half below another window will cause both windows to move away from eachother and then back on top of eachother with the clicked window on top/??00:01
Fade2Blachow would i disable the card so i can start kubuntu\00:01
koteloRiddell, fix the snapshot number six!! --> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/00:01
koteloRiddell, fix the snapshot number six!! --> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/00:01
dvayanudr_willis: the fonts just do look bad :-)00:01
dvayanui had mscorefonts package installed00:01
Dr_willissven_,  thats the 'dodge' effect under focus i think.00:01
h3sp4wndvayanu: sgi released some nice ones but they are not utf8 unfortunately00:01
dvayanubut it seems it doesn't work anymore00:02
Lars_Gwhat's wrong with kotelo?00:02
sven_Dr_willis, looking it up.. thanks00:02
Dr_willisdvayanu,  this is under a upgrade to gutsy?00:02
koteloLars_G, ;D00:02
dvayanudr_willis yeah00:02
nadinetetinewhy when i type cat /etc/issue in the terminal it says that i have 7.10, but adept told me that i can update to 7.10 and when i do so, it keeps giving error00:02
dvayanujust upgraded00:02
Lega'lo.00:02
nadinetetinehelp! why when i type cat /etc/issue in the terminal it says that i have 7.10, but adept told me that i can update to 7.10 and when i do so, it keeps giving error00:03
dvayanuthe updater said something about installing x-ttcidfont-conf00:03
Dr_willisdvayanu,  ive sen several people ask about font issues in #ubuntu today. i would say check the forums - there may be some thread on it by now - given how many people ive seen with issues.00:03
Dr_willisI always do a clean install.. :)00:03
dvayanucant afford that ...00:03
Dr_willisand i think i will CONTINUE to always do a clean install.00:03
h3sp4wndvayanu: are you using kde or gnome ?00:03
Fade2Blacdoes anyone know00:03
dvayanuhs3sp4wn: kde00:03
dvayanuotherwise i would be on ubuntu wouldnt i? :-)00:04
Fade2Blachow to disable something so it does load on start up, the wireless card will not let me boot kubuntu00:04
Fade2Blacwithout getting an error00:04
h3sp4wndvayanu: I wouldn't too busy00:04
frank_ok I have to continue the upgrade. is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  gonna work?  does the dist-upgrader do something else?00:04
Dr_willisFade2Blac,  an error that wont let it continue booting?00:04
dvayanumy brother has same issue with gnome00:04
h3sp4wndvayanu: There is something related to gtk that they have fixed it so it doesn't hardcode 96dpi anymore00:04
dvayanuah00:05
h3sp4wnbut if its pure kde that shouldn't be effected00:05
dvayanui'vve seen an option00:05
Fade2Blacyes this error00:05
Fade2Blacbcm43xx: error : microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed00:06
dvayanuhmm...00:06
h3sp4wnFade2Blac: get it from wl.o00:06
dvayanuforce fonts dpi to 120 makes it a bit better00:06
Fade2Blacdo u have a url00:06
dvayanuor lets say more readable00:06
Lars_Gdvayanu: Aren't monitors general 72dpi anyhow?00:06
Dr_willisFade2Blac,  that shouldent stop the system from booting..00:07
Dr_willisFade2Blac,  install the fwcutter package. it 'should' auto-dwnload those files00:07
dvayanulars_g: i'm just tryint to get readable konsole font00:07
Dr_willis!find fwcutter00:07
ubotuFound: bcm43xx-fwcutter00:07
frank_I'm pretty disappointed with the upgrader for kubuntu. I would be pretty screwed if I didn't know what I was doing...00:07
Dr_willisor at least it did for me.00:07
h3sp4wnFade2Blac: http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2.00:07
Lars_Gfrank_: I've had 50% luck so far00:07
h3sp4wnLars_G: No00:07
Fade2Blacso the command to install fwcutter would be00:08
Rudd-Ohai guise, is wine broken for you in gutsy?00:08
h3sp4wnLars_G: Its entirely dependant on size (especially with lcd panels)00:08
Rudd-Oit stopped working after the upgrade00:08
Rudd-Oand I need it :-(00:08
h3sp4wnLars_G: its dots per inch00:08
frank_Lars_G: i'm just continuing the upgrade in the terminal. I hope it works00:08
wesleysystemsettings crashed at startup anyone does have this problem?00:08
purpleposeidonHow do I real install grub?00:08
Lars_Gh3sp4wn: dpi is dependant on density.00:08
purpleposeidon*reinstall?00:08
Rudd-Ogutsy has been the buggiest release I've seen in the ubuntu history00:08
Lars_Gfrank_: me too00:09
Rudd-Odpi proportional to resolution, inversely proportional to display dimensions00:09
h3sp4wnRudd-O: Yep00:10
Fade2Blachey dr. what would that command be00:10
Rudd-Oso any ideas about wine?00:10
frank_Lars_G: things like this make me feel the kubuntu side of ubuntu is neglected.00:10
Rudd-Ohow can I downgrade to a previous version?00:10
h3sp4wnfrank_: It always has been00:11
wesleyMandriva is the best if it comes to config00:11
frank_h3sp4wn: is there anyone else other than ridell working on kubuntu specifically?00:12
Fade2Blacmandriva00:12
Lars_G!search fwcutter00:12
ubotuFound:00:12
wesleyYes mandriva linux 200800:12
h3sp4wnfrank_: Not who gets paid to afaik00:12
ndrea"Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program will now exit" Do someone know why I'm getting this error in the Upgrade Wizard?00:12
purpleposeidonLast time I used mandrake, I couldn't find any help, or documentation, or install anything, or...00:12
Lars_GFade2Blac: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter00:13
frank_ndrea: I got that too. but the second time i tried it worked00:13
ndreaok00:13
Fade2Blacthx :) so that should fix it00:13
ndreai try00:13
wesleyits better then kubuntu 7.10 i think Mandriva did a good job i think00:13
contrast83Greets, everyone...00:13
Dr_willispurpleposeidon,  thats amazing.. giving the HUGE volumes of info on the internet about every disrto out. :)00:13
Lars_GFade2Blac: no idea but that's how you get fwcutter00:13
Fade2Blacthank you00:13
frank_ndrea: the upgrader application crashed mid-upgrade for me though. I can't really recommend it unless you really know what you're doing00:13
Lars_GDr_willis: when I left mandrake pre-mandriva their page organization was..... difficutl00:14
Dr_willisWith linux it pays to learn the Fundamentals.. then the rest is just iceing. :)00:14
ndreafrank_: hm, what should I do then?00:14
purpleposeidonDr_willis: It seemd to me that every site I looked at was under construction, or something00:14
Lars_GIt's so sad flash is closed source00:15
frank_ndrea: I'm really not sure...00:15
Lars_GI wish some madman had done an aalib based flash player so I could play orisinal games on elinks while I wait for the install to finish00:15
Rudd-Ojust reported the wine bug00:15
hydrogentrying to compile a qt3 program I get "vk_file_utils.cpp:49:27: error: qplatformdefs.h: No such file or directory".. qplatformdefs.h exists in usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/*/.. I've installed libqt3-mt-dev00:15
Rudd-Osheesh how did I go to a totally working system to a broken one...00:15
frank_ndrea: I'm not the only one here who has had problems with the upgrader00:15
ndrea Ok.... I'll just make a try or two :)00:15
Rudd-Oguys, how can I downgrade a package to an older version?00:16
Rudd-Ousing adept of course?00:16
frank_ndrea: well i got to warn you if the upgrader crashes you might be left with an unbootable system00:16
ndreacould it be because there are many people downloading from that server?00:16
Lars_GSigh all I have left is to look at ascii porn in links00:16
ndreaoch, really?00:16
h3sp4wnndrea: Do it from the cli (stop kdm) and using aptitude00:17
ndreabetter uninstall and install again?00:17
Lars_Gaptitude is gold00:17
frank_ndrea: well that's one to do it00:17
frank_ndrea: well that's one way to do it00:18
Rudd-Oguys, how can I downgrade to a previous versino of a package using adept?00:18
Rudd-Oor at least gimme the apt-get command or whatever00:18
hydrogenhas anyone built valkyrie on linux lately?00:19
Dr_willis!apt00:20
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)00:20
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Dr_willisI cant say that ive ever downgraded/pinned a version of an app.00:20
Dr_willisbut ive seen it mentioned in the aptget howto00:20
hydrogenit's not compiling against qt for some fun reason00:21
ovetest00:21
Dr_willis4+3=?00:21
sven_8?00:22
Dr_willisIf a train leaves chichago going east at 59 miles an hr......00:22
Dr_williswhats your favorite color?00:22
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ovemy favorite color is white!00:23
ubuntuMy external drive won't mount, it gives this error:00:23
ubuntuhal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 99900:24
ubuntuAnyone know what that means?00:24
jereme_hey all... so it looks like on GG ubuntu that there is a simple preference for switching to compiz-fusion00:25
jereme_is there anything similar for kubuntu?00:25
jereme_or am I just high on the "dope" all around?00:25
sven_Is there anybody else who is having problems with the restricted driver manager? It was commented to me that this was due to the huge load the servers were getting but what I see is just a window hanging before I even press "Ok" or anything.. The url specified in that window can be downloaded without problem using wget anyway.. its a .o file, can I install that file somewhere manually so that I can get my wireless to work? please?00:25
h3sp4wnndrea: just try inside X with aptitude then00:26
sven_jereme_, AFAIK, compiz is not yet officially supported under KDE and so they don't have a simple tool for it yet00:26
ubuntusven_ , I was having trouble yesterday during light hours, so I waited until after dark. Worked fine then.00:26
sven_jereme_, but I have been told that kdm also has its own composite manager00:26
jereme_sven_: gotcha...00:26
jereme_hrm00:26
jereme_I'll sniff around00:26
h3sp4wnndrea: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/feisty/gutsy/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade00:27
h3sp4wnndrea: use the pastebin if there is any issues00:27
sven_ubuntu, but.. I just say "Enable driver" and then I get a window that hangs.. that really is normal?00:27
sven_ubuntu, in any case, I already got the file here.. all I need now is to know how to install it00:27
ubuntusven_, It did the same thing for me. Reboot and see if it works in a bit00:28
stardogso....dude....what's up with kopete?00:28
ubuntuall, My external drive won't mount, it gives this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 99900:28
sven_Ubukubu, weeeeiiirrrddd00:28
Dr_willisKDE4 is to have its own composit manager00:29
Dr_willis'kdm' is the login manager. :)00:29
jereme_I was wondering about that statement00:29
Dr_williswith linux - it pays to be very 'precise' and 'specific' :)00:30
jereme_and 'punctual'00:30
Dr_willisand polite00:30
Dr_willisand verbose yet concise.00:30
jereme_and 'not a smart ass like me'00:30
Dr_willisjereme_,  ive seen worse... today in fact.. :)00:30
purpleposeidonand to always avoid alliteration00:30
Dr_willisaparently 'i dident know what i was talking about.. since the guy i was trying to help, had NO linux knowledge whatso ever' so it was my fault i couldent dumb down 'edit a file' enough for him00:31
jereme_hrm, I did a dist-upgrade a the prompt but the distribution upgrade manager still foudn more stuff00:31
jereme_foo00:31
jereme_and I'm getting screaming download speeds of 21k/sec :)00:31
Dr_willisyep.00:31
Dr_willisthats why i normally do my 'update/upgrades' the day befor the release.. then again about a week later00:32
jereme_I was caught by surprise on this release00:32
jereme_I forgot to pay attention00:32
Dr_willisis it really that critical you be upto date right this instant? :)00:32
atlfalcons866##windows00:32
Dr_willis!windows00:33
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents00:33
h3sp4wnDr_willis: next time just get him to load emacs and type M-x doctor00:33
Dr_willishmm...00:34
Dr_willisBrewery offers lifetime supply of beer in return for stolen laptop00:34
Dr_willisNow thats a Reward!00:34
jereme_Dr_willis: nope, I just don't have any other pending emergency projects at work, so I figured the end of a friday is as good as any day00:34
jereme_plus I only have 2 packages to grab, I've already got the rest00:34
rafikiapo!00:34
Dr_willisand polite and patient. :)00:34
rafikiõóëåòóä?00:34
jereme_"hey brian!  my alphabets are talking to me... they're saying, 'oooooooooooooooooooooo...'"   "Peter, those are cheerios."00:35
h3sp4wnAnyone played with the new kernel build infrastructure in gutsy00:37
Dr_willisi aint had to mess with the kernel since i switched to ubuntu. :)00:38
h3sp4wnI want either cfs or sd scheduler00:38
h3sp4wnI notice it being not quite right00:38
atlfalcons866!offtopic00:39
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!00:39
purpleposeidonHow do do you reinstall grub?00:42
jereme_hrm, the upgrade wants to uninstall my running kernel headers00:45
g-hennuxhi!00:45
g-hennuxi have just installed kubuntu gutsy (was on gentoo before) and my bash prompt highlighting does not work any more00:46
g-hennuxi used all of my old .bash files, but it simply does not change the prompt color00:46
Dr_willisg-hennux,  try a simple script that sets the prompt and source it.00:46
Dr_williscould be simple thing like the .bahrc or .bash_profile not getting read from the terminal00:47
g-hennuxDr_willis: oh, sorry, forget that, my fault... stupid me had not set the prompt color in .bashrc, but in /etc/bash_bashrc or so, which of course was not taken over00:47
g-hennuxis there a good way to get a really old java version (1.1 or 1.2) on this machine? preferrable via apt?00:48
seriekrockyo00:48
sven_Anybody here with knowledge of VPNs? I need to connect to our local network with VPN.. I just installed kvpnc to do this.. All I got was an ip adress, a user name and a password, no "what protocol" or anything like that so I need to figure that one out by myself.. But.. every protocol I can select needs certificates, keys, id, files, and god knows what more.. Who can tell me what I need to connect to a vpn when I only have a username, a password and a In IP?00:49
g-hennuxsven_: what kind of vpn?00:49
g-hennuxpptp, cisco, ...?00:49
g-hennuxor anything non-proprietary? :-)00:49
sven_g-hennux, good question, they cant tell me, they dont know.. all they know is that they use "checkpoint", www.checkpoint.com.. I have no knowledge of VPN's so..00:50
sven_network guys here could not tell me, they don't know (yay)00:51
wastedfluidhey, my x session keeps crashing.. it's jst random.. screne turns black, and it re-loads kde.. where do i go about starting to troubleshoot this?00:51
sven_wastedfluid, using yakuake by any chance?00:52
wastedfluidnope.00:52
wastedfluidLatest thing I installed was an older version of kmix... so the volume stuff would work.  but all i did was uninstall kmix, and install a newer version.00:53
sven_g-hennux, any VPN type you know of that only needs a name, password and IP address?00:53
wastedfluider, uninstall kmix, and install an <older> version00:53
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g-hennuxsven_: hm, usually anything should... though, wait, it's *not* cisco and it's even more not pptp :-)00:53
g-hennuxat least after the experience i have00:53
g-hennuxmaybe some simple openvpn stuff or so?00:54
zolarI still need assistance on install a pcmica card on version 7.10 please help00:54
sven_I think it was openswan actually, tried that some time ago, but got an error "only version 1.x supported" or something like that, but does the server or client only support version 1.x? in any case, I cant get openswan configured anymore with only user name, pass and up00:54
sven_up = ip00:54
frank_I upgraded to gutsy. it work fine ;)   the upgrader is not up to par though :(00:54
zolaris any one out there with knolodge of installing pcmcia network cards on 7.1000:57
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* BluesKaj wonders if there's a 64 bit gutsy chat01:00
BrightEyes`hello.just installed j2se with netbeans and i want to install some add-ons as well. i installed the 1st 2 packs in /home/user/ . when im trying to install BlueJ i get "nitializing InstallShield Wizard........ Searching JVM..dirname: extra operand `IDE'  Try `dirname --help' for more information." what can i do for that?01:01
jereme_hrm...  is there an easy way to change my console resolution?01:01
davixwhy the hell does the installer makes me format my /01:05
* nosrednaekim gasps that the mirrors are slow....slower than his 26K dial-up01:05
davixit's emptey, I only have there a backup I need, and it's not dispensible01:05
davixhow do I override this idiotic setting?01:06
g-hennuxdavix: what do you want it to do?01:06
davixto install the system to my selected root01:06
davixwithout formatting it01:06
davixit sais it needs to format my ext3 partition for /01:07
bottigerI just had a really horrible experience with compiz+kde (made kde really really *really* slow, while gnome was fine). After a lot of debugging I uninstalled xgl, and everything runs fine.01:07
davixI say hell no, I've already installed 3 systems without formatting the /01:07
davixone after the other01:07
koteloi have a question01:07
bottigerHave you tried of anything like that?01:07
kotelohow i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?01:07
kotelohelp please01:07
g-hennuxthe ati drivers that come with gutsy are not aiglx-enabled, right?01:07
bottigerg-hennux: no01:08
bottigerg-hennux: or right01:08
davixtry the feisty way bottiger http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/04/beryl-in-feisty-with-xgl.html01:08
kotelohow i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?01:08
kotelosomebody?01:08
g-hennuxdavix: thanks :-)01:08
davixnp hope u score it01:08
davixit's really good looking01:08
vellakdHow do I check what version of Ubuntu I'm running?01:09
bottigerdavix: hmm - I have nvidia.01:09
kotelohow i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?01:09
zolaris no one there who know pcmicia network card intallation01:09
bottigerdavix: but compiz works great now01:09
davixbottiger, level with me right now01:09
koteloplease answer me01:09
koteloxD01:09
davixdid you concider using google?01:09
g-hennuxbottiger: but, does that also mean that i cannot have those cool 3d-effects with gutsy outofthebox?01:09
bottigerdavix: it was just the xgl+kde which was slow01:09
kotelohelloo....01:09
davixoh god. apparently I'm in the wrong channel.01:10
kotelohow i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?01:10
adz21ckotelo look for compiz in adept manager/package manager of ur choice01:10
kotelohow i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?01:10
davixlisten xgl+kde is possible01:10
bottigerg-hennux: no, just use xgl01:10
scrottleshi01:10
zolarhow do you change you alias on this01:10
davixhint hint, libGL01:10
koteloadz21c, if i do something like an.... apt-get install compiz-kde , this will install compiz fusion?01:10
scrottlesi installed swf-player   and mozilla-plugin-gnash  yet i still cannot get it working on firefox01:11
davixg-hennux can you help me with the installer?01:11
scrottlesusing you tube to test.01:11
scrottleswhat are the package names to get flash working with firefox ?01:11
adz21ckotelo: i think it will install compiz, from what i know compiz fusion is just some plugins (that were and were not beryl) u use with compiz01:11
scrottlesusing apt-get01:11
adz21cflashnonfreee i think or something like that01:12
jereme_compiz-fusion is the merger of compiz and beryl01:12
jereme_beryl was a fork off of the original compiz project01:12
g-hennuxdavix: i suppose the reason is that you don't want to lose your homedir?01:12
jereme_eventually they decided to rejoin forces01:12
davixyeah01:12
jereme_so compiz-fusion != compiz per say01:12
adz21cyea but i think most of the beryl stuff was converted to compiz plugins01:12
davixg-hennux since when does a distro forces a format? (ahem)01:12
jereme_still compiz-fusion and compiz are not exactly equal, and packages are named appropriately01:13
g-hennuxdavix: hm, don't know, i'd like to do a format to have a clean install anyway01:13
davixoh lord, nevermind eyecandy now01:14
davixg-hennux many would, yet some undeniable portion wouldn't01:14
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moofoowhat was the url for the updated kopete/kdelibs deb again?01:14
g-hennuxdavix: so, to conclude, no idea how to get around that :-)01:14
davix:)01:14
moofooor is it already in the repos?01:14
Angeluswhen im booting into kubuntu, the monitor turns off instead of the bootup splash, then it turns back on with the kde login screen, any help please? :S01:15
[Relic]if I want to set up all the fonts and look as "root" so every user uses the same look to begin with, what do I need to run?01:15
davixui01:16
zolarI have tried every thing and can not get the wireless networking on kubuntu 7.10  what is wrong01:16
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donsdwAfter upgrade, where are my old Kubuntu files?01:17
flakehow do i do anonymous browsing?01:17
CrazyPoultrysorry if this sounds stupid, but i was trying to install the kde4 beta, and during the install my dog stepped on the mouse and managed to close the konsole window, now if i try to use apt-get i get an unavalible error, any ideas on how to fix that?01:20
CrazyPoultryCould not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) is the error01:21
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Jucato!aptfix | CrazyPoultry01:21
ubotuCrazyPoultry: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:21
NickPrestaGreetings, #Kubuntu.01:21
noirHello.01:21
JucatoGreetings! Live long and prosper! :)01:22
Angeluswhen im booting into kubuntu, the monitor turns off instead of the bootup splash, then it turns back on with the kde login screen, any help please? :S01:22
CrazyPoultryJucato: thanks01:22
h3sp4wndoes !tell foo about bar work here01:22
Toma-...why does adept keep doing that?01:22
iss_studentHow do I turn on desktop effects in Kubuntu?01:22
Jucatoh3sp4wn: yep. or !bar > foo01:22
NickPrestaheh. Any specific pages that deal with setting up Twinview in Gutsy? My nvidia-settings application provides only one panel and it's the settings panel...01:22
Jucato!compiz | iss_student01:22
ubotuiss_student: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion01:22
JucatoToma-: doing what?01:23
adz21cAngelus: what graphics card do you have? cos for me personally I had to disable to splash else I couldn't even get into gutsy01:23
Toma-Jucato➔ leaving the system in a broken state01:23
wastedfluidhey, my x session keeps crashing.. it's jst random.. screne turns black, and it re-loads kde.. where do i go about starting to troubleshoot this?01:23
JucatoToma-: actually it's doing that to prevent leaving the system in a broken state01:23
Jucatoand it's not Adept, it's APT that does it01:23
[Relic]firefox 2 or 3 the best to install now?  just wondering if 3 is stable enough for use01:24
adz21cNickPresta: I couldn't say tbh but if you give me an idea what your looking for and pastebin your xorg.conf i could give u an example of what I might do if you wish?01:24
kudarjust installed kubuntu 7.10. having wireless problems01:24
Toma-Jucato➔ hehe how ironic01:24
Jucato[Relic]: don't think there's firefox 3 yet in the repos. still in beta01:24
noirAlright, I'm brand new to Linux, and am finding that Kubuntu does not like my USB speakers.01:24
noirAny ideas?01:24
[Relic]Jucato: firefox-3.0 (dev version) is listed in adept01:24
NickPrestaadz21c, thank you for offering help. I've actually had a Twinview setup in Feisty for the last 10 months. But after the upgrade to Gutsy, it stopped working (no dual displays) and nvidia-settings provides no help01:25
Angelusadz21c: i have geforce 8400GS, and dw i couldn't boot into kubuntu with its default driver. i had to install them from nvidia's site :p01:25
Jucato[Relic]: ah I see. if you need stability, Fx 201:25
kudarany wireless utilities for kubuntu 7.10?01:25
mike-kubunt1hey, i installed a custum version of fglrx via .deb's but i'd like to go back to the stock ones and i'm not sure how01:25
adz21cAngelus: yes I have the 8800 and I found it hard enough to get the CD to begin the install, i found it just hates the splash screen, even in feisty01:26
mike-kubunt1i blacklisted fglrx but it wasn't in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist01:26
[Relic]Jucato: thanks  :)01:26
mike-kubunt1it was somewhere else with a blacklist variable like "BLACKLIST="fglrx""01:26
kudarok... well this is helpful01:27
JucatoToma-: it's like this, everytime something uses APT or dpkg, the APT database is locked so that nothing else could use it. When something abruptly stops it, it also locks the database in order not to leave the system in an inconsistent state (it also doesn't continue the installation of the package that was abruptly interrupted).01:27
adz21cNickPresta: I always found the nvidia-settings annoying as hell. Just out of curiosity, did you ever get a rendering issue with twinview where one monitor would render slower than the other? like u could see videos rendering?01:27
kudarpm me if you can help me connect to wireless with security01:27
NickPrestaadz21c, no, the setup worked quite flawlessly, which is why I'm so disappointed that it isn't working now :)01:27
Toma-Jucato➔ yes i know all that, but whats triggering adept to crash? i got that error and i think think adept even crashed01:28
Jucatoah well that's another matter :)01:28
Toma-:D01:28
adz21cNickPresta: ok, cos I did, was annoying, I ended up falling back to Xinerama (which supposively is slower but seems smoother to me) but, no compiz now :(01:28
donsdwAfter upgrading from Feisty, I do not know where my old Kubuntu files are.  What is the command that shows all the partitions?01:29
lido76-06hello is there anybody for a good conversation01:30
Jucato!offtopic | lido76-0601:30
ubotulido76-06: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:30
Jucatodonsdw: which kubuntu files are you looking for exactly?01:30
lido76-06and what happens next?01:31
donsdwJucato: all of them.  Right now all the directories are empty.01:31
mike-kubunt1fglrx wont detect my card01:31
mike-kubunt1it says its using mesa01:31
Jucatodonsdw: all? but you were able to boot into Kubuntu?01:31
Toma-can you move the navigation bar into the toolbar in dolphin?01:31
donsdwI may have lost them, but I don't think so.01:31
JucatoToma-: which navigation bar?01:31
Toma-Jucato➔ the one that has "/home/toma" and such in it01:32
Jucatoin what app I mean?01:32
Toma-dolphin01:32
Toma-(file manager)01:32
donsdwYes I can boot. I just do not have anything in my home directory except Desktop, which is empty.01:32
Jucatodonsdw: you just upgraded from feisty or is a fresh install? and do you have your /home on another partition?01:33
donsdwI misspoke when I said *all* directories.01:33
NickPrestaFor some reason, my "windows" key has been unmapped. It does nothing. Any idea how to fix that?01:33
rc-1anyone know where ktorrent stores the torrent files?01:33
donsdwI meant all my old files.01:33
donsdwUpgraded.01:33
h3sp4wnNickPresta: with xev right ?01:33
JucatoToma-: Ctrl+L switches from the breadcrumb toolbar to the editable location bar01:34
mike-kubunt1how do you force apt to install somthing thats already there01:34
mike-kubunt1i want to force it to reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx01:34
Jucatodonsdw: hm.. that would be weird...01:34
donsdwI think (hope) my old /home is in a partition which I cannot see.01:34
donsdwOh no.  I hoped that was normal.01:35
adz21cmike-kubunt1: apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx01:35
Jucatodonsdw: so /home is on a different partition?01:35
donsdwI hope so, Jucato.01:35
Dr_willis_wowsers - plugged in a new printer.. and a dialog poped up and installed it. :) kooka also saw my scannre right off..01:35
NickPrestasorry, h3sp4wn, X decides to crash at random intervals since the upgrade =(01:35
Dr_willis_Its getting where linxu works better then windows. :)01:35
Jucatodonsdw: perhaps it's not mounted anymore. you can check with "mount" command to see if it's mounted.01:35
donsdwBut I think I have to mount the correct one, but my linux is very limited.01:36
Jucatodonsdw: you hope so?err... you should know of /home is on another partition since you're the one who set it up when you first installed...01:36
mike-kubunt1adz21c: it says it is not possible since it cannot be downloaded01:36
h3sp4wnNickPresta: was you using xev to see if its detected >?01:36
Dr_willis_"Your Linux-Fu is Weak Grasshopper..." :)01:36
adz21cmike-kubunt1: you may need to enable the appropriate repo01:36
donsdwI tried mount.  I will take a look.  Thanks, Jucato.01:37
lido76-14Helllooooooo01:37
lido76-03hi, little girl01:37
donsdwJucato, when I set up /home, I did under Feisty.  Now with the new one, /home is empty.01:38
iss_student   I was so impressed with beryl before and I upgraded to Kubuntu and now I can't get the desktop cube to wrk at ll01:38
Jucatodonsdw: when you set it up in feisty, was it on another partition?01:38
Dr_willis_!compiz01:38
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion01:38
seriekrockanyone knows why it feels like the internet connection is faster in linux than in windows01:39
seriekrock?01:39
* Dr_willis_ really dosent see the point of the cube. :)01:39
Dr_willis_seriekrock,  the whole system is faster. :)01:39
Jucatodonsdw: because simply upgrading to gutsy will not modify that. unless you re-installed01:39
donsdwWill the mount command show unmounted partitions?  If not, what is the command that does?01:39
dystopianrayseriekrock: becuase you are subconciously eager to find ways that linux is better than windows?01:39
Jucatodonsdw: nope it doesn't show those01:39
seriekrockDr_willis_: yeah :)01:39
seriekrockdystopianray: lol01:40
donsdwThanks for your feedback, Jucato.01:40
donsdwDoes anyone know the command that shows unmounted partitions?01:41
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andr3xHi01:42
lido76-03lu01:42
seriekrockhi01:42
lido76-14lu01:42
dystopianraydonsdw: sudo fdisk -l ?01:42
Lars_GShort question, what's the kernel side package equivalent to the nvidia-glx-new xorg side package?01:43
Lars_GThat is, which deb has the restricted module for the 100 glx driver01:44
Jucatolinux-restricted-modules-01:44
Lars_GJucato: that has a version it seems compatible with nvidia-glx not nvidia-glx-new01:45
JucatoLars_G: you can install linux-restricted-modules-generic so that you'll always have the one for your kernel, even when the kernel updates01:45
Jucatoit's for all01:45
Jucato(it should be)01:45
Lars_GHmmm ok I'll try reinstalling those01:45
secleinteerdoes anyone know why kubuntu gutsy is asking me if i want to upgrade to gutsy?01:46
Toma-kcheckgmail is meant to habe an icon in the systray right?01:46
Jucatosecleinteer: yeah. kinda funny, but harmless01:46
secleinteerJucato: will it go away if i let it 'upgrade'?01:46
Jucatoit won't do anything01:46
secleinteeralright01:46
seriekrocksecleinteer: why shouldnt you upgrade?01:47
Mexflubberhi .. how do I install X-chat ?01:47
root_ok... just installed 7.10. wireless is slow as crap01:47
donsdwdystopianray: Yes! and cat /proc/partitions.  Thanks!01:47
secleinteerseriekrock: read what i said again - already have gutsy, but it's asking me to upgrade to gutsy01:47
root_any wireless utils on kubuntu?01:47
seriekrocksecleinteer: lol ok01:47
Mexflubberhi .. how do I install X-chat ?01:48
secleinteerMexflubber: sudo apt-get install xchat01:48
secleinteeror search for it in adept01:48
JucatoMexflubber: in Add/Remove Programs, look for it01:48
Jucatoxchat or x-chat01:48
Delphinuswhats the secret to getting compiz going in kubuntu gutsy please?01:49
Jucato!compiz | Delphinus01:49
ubotuDelphinus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion01:49
Delphinusthanks Jucato01:49
mcrandelloHi trying to mount my / from the livecd and getting hal-storage-fised-mount refused uid 999. Even after running dolphin using kdesu. Any suggestions?01:50
MexflubberJucato ... where is Add/Remove Programs in kubuntu ?01:50
JucatoMexflubber: K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs01:50
Lars_GJucato: just so you know I reinstalled restricted modules, now I modprobe nvidia and nvidia-glx can't initialize the module (no version error like before) but nvidia-glx-new works.. ah well.01:51
Lars_GSee you from irssi again, but in Xorg01:51
wilsondoes anyone know how to fix this :    Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch01:52
MexflubberJucato ... tx01:52
wilsoni get that when i do apt-get update01:52
PasNoxevening01:52
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verboyHello i am a newbi in linux world01:53
PasNoxi'm running gusty rc and want to upgrade to official gusty, but upgrade tool tell there is no upgrade available for my computer, how i can do ?01:53
verboyi have a problem in installation of Kubuntu01:53
verboyCan anyone help me01:53
verboy?01:53
PasNoxwitch problem ?01:54
seriekrock!anybody01:54
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:54
PasNox!anybody01:54
seriekrock!anybody @ verboy01:54
PasNox!anybody @ pasnox01:54
root_problem: wireless is very slow01:54
verboy!anybody01:54
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:54
PasNox!anybody @ verboy01:55
verboy!anybody @ verboy01:55
PasNoxhm don't working ;)01:55
mcrandelloor- for some reason after installing I reboot and get console instead of X. I'd probably be able to fix it but the console font is stupid-big and I can only see part of the "screen"01:55
PasNoxverboy: !anybody01:55
wilsonubotu: er, ok ill try a different mirror, thanks01:55
verboy!anybody01:56
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:56
Jucato!thanks | wilson01:56
ubotuwilson: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)01:56
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wilsonoh, it's a retarded bot some retard made talk01:56
PasNoxverboy: how u do ?01:56
verboy!anybody fine01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anybody fine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:56
verboyfine01:56
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PasNox!anybody verboy01:56
JucatoPasNox: if you were on gutsy rc and just upgraded daily, you'd be in final01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anybody verboy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:56
verboywhen i boot from cd and i want to choose intallation01:57
PasNoxJucato: nop, there is no french translation available for kde :|01:57
verboyit is loading kernel and reboot01:57
PasNoxso it s not up to date, and upgrade tool tell there is no update :|01:57
Dr_willis_!update01:57
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:57
JucatoPasNox: can you ask in #kubuntu-fr if they're having the same problems?01:58
Dr_willis_!upgrade01:58
hydrogen!downgrade01:58
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.01:58
hydrogen!sidegrade01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sidegrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:58
hydrogen!roadgrade01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about roadgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:58
JucatoPasNox: but as long as you updated daily since RC, your system is in final already01:58
Jucato!botabuse | hydrogen01:58
ubotuhydrogen: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:58
Jucato:P01:58
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verboy!anybody When I install Kubuntu it reboot01:58
hydrogen!don'tbotspammebecauseitskindofrudeinmynotsohumbleopinion | Jucato01:58
PasNoxi have no compiz fusion actiavate, no french translation, i think i'm not up to date, but i always update when thre is updaet available :|01:58
hydrogen:\01:59
Dr_willis_verboy,  how.. vague. :)  what installer/cd are you using? any other related error messages?01:59
JucatoPasNox: there is no compiz-fusion installed by default for kubuntu01:59
Dr_willis_!compiz01:59
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion01:59
mcrandelloanyone?01:59
Dr_willis_The NEW FAQ #1  - wheres my compiz!01:59
JucatoPasNox: as for french translations, you'd have to ask in #kubuntu-fr01:59
verboyno nothing I select intallation it is loading and black screen and reboot01:59
hydrogenThe new answer... compiz is overrated.01:59
verboythe new kubuntu 71001:59
Jucatohydrogen: that's the old answer :)02:00
PasNoxwhat mean overrated ?02:00
hydrogenJucato: oh, the same answer than02:00
Jucato:D02:00
intelikeythat was my answer 2 years ago.02:00
mike-kubunt1hey are there any repos with an fglrx drive above version 8.40?02:00
verboyWhat can I do?02:00
root_why nobody want to help me with wireless?02:00
secleinteeryeah, compiz is overrated02:00
hydrogenintelikey: regretably you have a lot of wrong answers :/02:00
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rc-1if i reinstall kubuntu, and backup my home directory, should ktorrent torrents still work?02:00
Jucato!wireless | root_02:01
uboturoot_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:01
secleinteerused to have it, well beryl, but it just got annoying02:01
NightBirdmike-kubunt1: fglrx isn't meant for most ati cards02:01
intelikeyhydrogen so you say.02:01
NightBirder...8.4102:01
hydrogenintelikey: well, yea02:01
verboy!help02:01
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:01
hydrogenintelikey: I thought that much was obvious :)02:01
DragnslcrIt's only overrated for people that think it's really anything more than "Ooh, shiny"02:01
NightBirdfglrx 8.41 isn't meant for most ati cards02:01
Ange|usis it posible to install a 32bit browser and a 32bit mplayer on kubuntu guys ??02:01
hydrogenDragnslcr: or those who think "ooh, shiny" is overrated02:01
secleinteerDragnslcr: it's exactly because it's nothing more than 'ooh, shiny' that it's overrated02:01
JucatoAnge|us: of course. but are you using 64-bit?02:01
verboycan anyone help me?02:01
mike-kubunt1NightBird: it's meant for mine, 200x express, only thing with close to 3d support for it02:01
Jucato!patience | verboy02:02
ubotuverboy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:02
RipRapRobHi all02:02
Ange|usyes Jucato im using 64bit02:02
verboyok sorry ubotu02:02
secleinteerubotu's a bot :P02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about s a bot :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:02
NightBirdmike-kubunt1: actually, 200 express cards aren't supported in the 8.41 driver.  8.42 will see support added back in(as well as aiglx support)02:02
Jucato!64bit | Ange|us02:02
ubotuAnge|us: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.02:02
Jucato!flash6402:02
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:02
secleinteerverboy: try the forums if nobody here can help02:02
Jucatothat too02:02
intelikeyverboy have you tried booting with the frame buffering disabled ?02:02
verboyhow intelikey?02:03
intelikeyi.e.  remove "splash" from the kernel line,02:03
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Ange|usthanks Jucato02:03
NightBirdmike-kubunt1: if you want 8.41(though you should wait for 8.42, it should be out in a few days...), you will have to go to the ati driver, locate and install it yourself02:03
mike-kubunt1NightBird: what repos would i add so i get the 8.42 driver as soon as possible though, i'm not failiar with kubuntus way of handling testing packages02:03
RipRapRobTest02:04
* intelikey corrects. that doesn't disable fb but i "should" cause it to "hot be active"02:04
mike-kubunt1NightBird: thanks02:04
NightBirdmike-kubunt1: my guess is 8.42 will be added pretty quickly to the repos02:04
intelikeynot02:04
RipRapRobTest02:04
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mcrandellointelikey, would that help my problem also?02:04
intelikeymcrandello what is your problem ?02:05
mcrandellostupidly huge fonts in the consoles that wind up cutting off, so the command prompt is offscreen02:05
verboyintelikey it says buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 002:05
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RipRapRobHi al - I'm trying to install KDE 4.0 under Kubuntu 7.10. Anyone know a guide for doing this? I've tried by using the Adept installer, but I can't seem to invoke KDE 4.0.02:05
intelikeymcrandello very likely then.02:05
NightBird!kde4 | RipRapRob02:05
ubotuRipRapRob: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php02:06
hydrogenRipRapRob: It's not worth the effort at this point02:06
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Ange|usjucato, what about mplayer 32bit ?02:06
mcrandelloRipRapRob, there is a link to the kde4 beta3 packages in the gusty release page at kubuntu.org02:06
JucatoAnge|us: that I don't know02:06
mcrandellointelikey, I'll try that, thanks02:06
Ange|usJucato: to be able to use win32 codecs02:06
adz21cAnge|us: what do you need 32bit player for?02:06
intelikeyverboy ok that's a  elterito problem   i don't have an answer for that yet.   and it seems to be a recurring problem or i talked to you yesterday  one.02:06
Ange|usadz21c: for win32 codecs02:07
adz21cAnge|us: w64 are available02:07
Ange|usO_o02:07
RipRapRobmcrandello: Ok, I'll look for that. Thanks!02:07
Ange|uswin64 codecs?02:07
Ange|usO_o02:07
adz21cyup02:07
Ange|usnever heard of them02:07
adz21cwww.medibuntu.org02:07
_luke_I'm trying to do an upgrade from Fiesty to Gutsy.... but in the middle of the upgrade it complaines that the debconf install seg-faulted, then that it couldn't install X11... and now its stuck on libdbus-1-dev02:07
intelikeymcrandello you can use a vga=  on the kernel line   set to   vga=0x0f04    should be standard text mode.02:07
adz21csince vista came out microsoft released a x64 media player so the libs became available02:07
adz21ci think02:07
adz21cregardless they are there02:08
feierfoxhow to shutdown my system with command-line?02:08
Lars_GSigh ok I give up. I'll need to rebuild my xorg.conf, anybody willing to give me a hand?02:08
Ange|uswrong adz21c , windows 64bit uses 32bit browser and player02:08
feierfox(time-delay)02:08
Ange|usadz21c: i can't find no   win64 codecs in adept02:08
_luke_feierfox: sudo halt02:08
Lars_Gfeierfox: sudo shutdown -h now02:08
adz21cwell, w64 codecs are there and i use wmv9 in x64 kaffeine fine02:09
Jucato!xconfig | Lars_G02:09
ubotuLars_G: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes02:09
adz21cAnge|us: www.medibuntu.org02:09
Ange|uswhats the package adz21c02:09
JucatoLars_G: to rebuild it02:09
Ange|uswhats the package name adz21c ? *02:09
Lars_Gthis is my current. dirty config. It works but for two details. http://200.62.10.54:8008/xorg.conf02:09
adz21cAnge|us: "w64codecs"02:09
_luke_anyone got any ideas what I should do now? will the apt-get dist-upgrade finish the upgrade?02:09
Lars_GJucato: I have, eh... peculiar needs.02:09
intelikeymcrandello  i can't resite all the vga= code of the top of my head but    0x0f0<345>  are good text modes and  771 779 791 793 799  are good graphic modes  you can play around with them...02:09
JucatoLars_G: well you can always manually do it :)02:09
dystopianraythere are no win64 codecs02:09
Lars_GJucato: I have a dual monitor, which I want to handle as separate screens with xinerama.02:10
RipRapRobmcrandello: I've actually tried doing like stated on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php, but how do I start KDE 4 when I'm done?02:10
Jucatoah ok :)02:10
Lars_GJucato: I did, and it's not causing a few problems02:10
adz21cthen its some sort of workaround, but its there and they work02:10
* Jucato hands off dual monitors...02:10
Ange|usadz21c: did you add some other repos ? i can't find them here02:10
feierfoxand with time-delay Lars_G ?02:10
Lars_GJucato: it "used to work before"02:10
adz21cAnge|us: www.medibuntu.org02:10
wilsonwhat are the w32 dcodecs ? are they for wine or something ? or are they wmv support or something ?02:10
Lars_Gfeierfox: time delay meaning... you want to shut down in 10 mintues? drop the "now", check man shutdown, you can specify a wait time.02:11
adz21cAnge|us: thats a repo that has various packages that are "iffy"02:11
adz21cwmv support02:11
mcrandelloRipRapRob, pay attention to that lass bulleted instruction02:11
Lars_Gwilson: they're video codecs from windows to be used by linux video libraries and players02:11
adz21cAnge|us: when i say iffy i mean ubuntu can't ship them due to license02:11
Lars_Gin short, wmv support, quicktime support and a few other propietary closed codecs02:11
mcrandelloRipRapRob, after you've done that there should be an "options" or "settings" menu at the login screen02:11
Lars_GJucato: Any place but this where you'd suggest I get the needed nvidia help?02:11
wilsonsorry, isn't that included in kubuntu-restricted-extras ?02:12
mcrandelloRipRapRob, you should see an option for kde4 in there02:12
JucatoLars_G: no clue... it usually "just works" for me02:12
Lars_GJucato: ok02:12
Jucatowilson: what is?02:12
RipRapRobmcrandello: I can't find that option :(02:12
feierfoxwant to shutdown my system in one hour, what is the command-line, i have to use02:12
RipRapRobmcrandello: I can only find KDE02:12
wilsonahh, i see it doesn't, only dvd playback02:13
Jucatowilson: no, w32codecs aren't included in restricted-extras02:13
intelikeyi think i set something incorrectly.  internet is exscreemly slow on the third level lan02:13
Jucatobecause of legal restrictions02:13
dystopianrayffmpeg already has wmv support02:13
adz21cw32/64codecs wont be as u need a legit copy of windows to use them02:13
dystopianrayno need for w32codecs just for wmv02:13
adz21chence ubuntu doiesn't ship it02:13
mcrandelloRipRapRob, you copied /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop?02:13
RipRapRobmcrandello: yes02:13
adz21cdystopianray: up to version 8 i think so yes, but not 9 i don't think so02:13
dystopianrayadz21c: all wmv versions are supported: wmv1, wmv2, wmv3 and vc-102:14
mcrandelloRipRapRob, after you do that you have to edit the kde4.desktop with your fav. text editor and change the "name" field. you'll see it in there02:14
nexanoanyone else in here having trouble with GeForce 7800 drivers? i cant seem to be able to use any other then Vesa :/02:14
adz21cdystopianray: even wmv9? as I am sure it doesn't support that02:15
NickPrestaCan anyone tell me and help me figure out why whenever I start the computer/login, my nvidia driver is disabled despite it being installed and in my xorg.conf?02:15
RipRapRobmcrandello: I did that. I'll have to tripple check. Thanks!02:15
dystopianrayadz21c: there is no 'wmv9' you're likely thinking of wmv3 and yes it does support that02:15
dystopianrayadz21c: it also supports vc-1 which is the wmv3 superset used in HD-DVD and blu-ray02:15
wilsonthe 'rip video dvd' option doesn't work for me in k3b, it just opens the video_ts directroy. Is this normal behaviour in kubuntu ? i'm pretty sure i installed all the needed packages02:15
Lars_GBtw I had to finish the upgrade by hand02:16
mcrandelloRipRapRob, if you've gone over the entries and made sure it's all correct then instead of logging out try using <ctrl><alt><bkspc> to kill the xserver. That will force kdm to reload its settings02:16
intelikeyNickPresta kernel version/module mismatch ?02:16
adz21cdystopianray: fair enough02:16
wilsoni think they should just remove that option from k3b, i played around with it a few weeks ago , compiling from source, and it didn't give the proper commands to transcode anyway02:16
Lars_Gand I notice my KDE theme has some icons or graphics missing02:16
Lars_Glike for example during startup the spinner will show some icons, and others will show as a generic "page"02:16
NickPrestaintelikey, I don't think so. I've reinstalled the driver three times. Twice, I used the restricted-manager and once I did a manual install. No dice either way02:16
intelikeyNickPresta hmmm.  is the /etc/X11/xorg.conf being changed on ya /02:17
RipRapRobmcrandello: Everything looks OK. I've even tried restarting. I'll try the CTRL ALT BACKSPACE. Thanks again for your patience!02:17
wilsonthere's mencoder, ffmeg, dvd95 , k9copy02:17
BluesKajlooking for ppl who have google earth running on Gutsy 64 using ATI02:17
NickPrestaintelikey, nope. "nvidia" is still listed...02:17
Lars_GAny tips for that please?02:18
Lars_GBluesKaj: do ATI finally provide 64bit linux drivers?02:18
intelikeyNickPresta one more "stab in the dark" here.   don't have a oops copy of xorg.conf in your /root/  do you ?02:18
NightBirdLars_G: they have for awhile now02:18
root_takes forever to refreh network settings for wireless... and wireless is slow02:18
NickPrestaintelikey, nope. /root/ is empty02:18
Lars_GNightBird: cool. I had stopped tracking ati02:19
Lars_GNightBird: And now, I have troubles with my beloved nvidia :P02:19
intelikeywell that pretty much spent my 'least possable info' trubble shooting.   check the logs.02:19
scrottleshi02:20
scrottleshow do i un-ignore a repo?  cant seem to find it in a man page.02:20
scrottlesIgn http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US02:20
intelikeyscrottles remove the comment char   (#)  from before it.02:21
intelikeyoh02:21
NickPrestaintelikey, dmesg and syslog don't show anything related to nvidia or X in general...02:21
Lars_GNickPresta: those are in /var/log/Xorg.x.log02:22
Lars_Gx is a number02:22
Lars_Gdo a ls -l and the log with today's date is the right one02:22
scrottlesoh in /etc/apt/sources.list02:23
scrottlesthanx pal02:23
Lars_Gscrottles: after you uncomment it, remember to do an sudo apt-get update02:23
scrottlesright02:23
rickeywho here has finished there upgrade to gusty , i need to know if there old personal files from 7.o4 was broth over to 7.10 or did they lose them?02:24
scrottles!nvidia02:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:24
mcrandellorickey, is your /home on it's own partition?02:24
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rickeyno i dont think so02:25
NickPrestaLars_G, thanks. I checked the log and everything seems to have worked. Twinview was enabled, the metamodes were set properly, etc...02:25
mcrandellorickey, if you do an an upgrade through apt it shouldn't touch them. If you decide to reinstall from CD I would back up everything first.02:26
mcrandellorickey, but then I would back up everything anyway, because I'm paranoid ;^)02:26
Lars_GNickPresta: What's your problem?02:26
NickPrestaLars_G, whenever I start the computer/login, my nvidia driver is disabled despite it being installed and in my xorg.conf. I run nvidia-settings and it tells me that I'm not using the nvidia driver.02:26
rickeyi do have sommetime to put somestuff on a cd ,before the  full upgrade  takes place02:26
rickeyok i did go though apt02:27
Lars_GNickPresta: I think it's not disabled. you're using nvidia-glx-new right?02:27
rickeythanks02:28
NickPrestaLars_G, yep, for my 7900 GS02:28
Lars_GNickPresta: I get the same with nvidia-settings and my nvidia is working well except for one error I'm having. From what I saw from aptitude when installing it seems the nvidia-settings up there works with nvidia-glx but not nvidia-glx-new02:28
RipRapRobCan't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and check 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option.02:29
Lars_GNickPresta: so it's nvidia-settings failing to recognize the driver. if you open a shell and run glxinfo it should show direct rendering on.02:29
zolar1how do you obtain a mac address in linux02:29
Lars_GNickPresta: I will try in a while, after I fix my nvidia error, to download only the lattest nvidia-settings from the nvidia page and test that02:29
mcrandellozolar1, ifconfig02:29
Lars_Gzolar1: ifconfig shows it02:29
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zolar1thanks02:30
mcrandellozolar1 it's called the HWaddr though02:30
mcrandelloat least that's what ifconfig calls it :)02:30
Lars_GNightBird: oh... odd I just rand glxinfo and I get direct rendering no... but it also shows the nvidia glx lines... this is odd.02:30
lee986321ok ya I hae my either net up and running02:30
NickPrestasorry Lars_G. X crashed... Anyways, doing a `glxinfo | grep direct` shows direct rending NO02:30
lee986321its a bit unorthodox though02:31
NightBirdLars_G: can't help with nvidia difilties02:31
NightBirdor with spelling either apparently02:31
lee986321lol02:31
lee986321now I ama problby the worst typest of all there lol02:32
lee986321ok well now to setting up those drivers02:32
intelikeylee986321 well actually....02:32
NickPrestasigh. Is there a recommended way to downgrade? :P02:32
Lars_GNightBird: sorry wrong autocompletion02:32
Lars_GNickPresta: oh... odd I just rand glxinfo and I get direct rendering no... but it also shows the nvidia glx lines... this is odd.02:32
m00foogna i just finished the upgrade f->g but the nvidia module is gone.. where is it?!02:33
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Lars_GNickPresta: And. I still see GLX loading correctly in Xorg.log O.o something is very very odd here02:33
nosrednaekimseems there is a chain of events here...02:33
lee986321eh I lost my monitirs manual adjust mensts this stinks02:33
Lars_GNickPresta: I might even try to remove ubuntu's nvidia module (rm by hand) and glx (dpkg -r) and use nvidia's installer. to see what happens.02:34
Lars_Gbbl02:34
lee986321ok setting up a paste bin02:34
wesleyhow do i best install compiz fusion in 7.1002:34
lee986321!pastebin02:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:34
lee986321ok go that running02:34
lee986321hm lsets see updates ah that its02:35
* lee986321 is talking to himself dont pay it any mnd02:35
scrottlesi edited /etc/apt/sources.list and i still get  lines beginning with Ign upon apt-get update02:36
nosrednaekim!compiz | wesley02:36
ubotuwesley: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion02:36
scrottlesall that is commented is documentation and cdrom02:36
nosrednaekimscrottles: what is it ignoring?02:38
lee986321ok02:39
nosrednaekimlee986321: no..its not.02:39
nosrednaekim;)02:39
* lee986321 Belches02:39
seriekrocki thought gutsy had compiz fusion installed as standard?02:39
lee986321your right that is better ahh ty02:40
nosrednaekimseriekrock: not kubuntu02:40
nosrednaekim=D02:40
RipRapRobCan't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and checked 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option. Any suggestions?02:40
intelikeyscrottles yeah i tried to correct that post eariler.  it's not your sources.list per'se  it's a network issue.  either the destination or the address is kicking back a "not applicable" and apt is thus ignoring that line.   i.e. could be a server down.  and could be a bad address in the apt line   the security sight is ttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/02:40
scrottleshttp://rafb.net/p/ObHZpU74.html02:40
lee986321ok any who I am getting down to some seriouse business now..who wants to help me withthe ati codion to make sure all goes well02:40
lee986321any takers?02:40
scrottlesoh ok.02:40
seriekrocknosrednaekim:  so i have to do as on that link? i cant install it with adept?02:40
scrottlesi was just looking for  libdvdcss and w32codecs but i suppose they're googleable02:41
scrottlesis there a difference between libdvdcss and libdvdcss2 ?02:41
BluesKajyes02:41
scrottleswhich is prefered ?02:41
nosrednaekimseriekrock: yeah.. you can install it from adept, get:  compiz-kde emerald and compiz-plugins-extra02:41
nosrednaekim202:41
scrottlesi suppose 202:41
nosrednaekimI think02:41
BluesKajupdated02:41
intelikey!libdvdcss202:43
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:43
nosrednaekimintelikey: !! upgraded to gutsy yet?02:44
intelikeynosrednaekim i don't expect i'll ever see gutsy02:44
nosrednaekimintelikey: you a LTS guy?02:44
scrottlesgoogle takes me to sites to upgrade the apt.sources file for Edgy, and Dapper, im running fiesty.02:44
intelikeynever saw edgy or fiesty02:44
noam_er02:44
nosrednaekimscrottles: just DL the deb02:44
intelikeynosrednaekim yep02:44
lee986321eh ok I need the url adress for02:45
noam_the kdelibs4-dev is reported broken in adept. i have installed the kdelibs4 update that is fixes the kopete msn crash.02:45
noam_what should i do?02:45
BluesKaj<----64bit gutsy restricted ATI driver enabled , wonder if google earth will run ...got fgl_glxgears working02:45
intelikeyscrottles the differance in the sources.list is the code-name other than that they are all the same.02:46
scrottlesok i'll just swap code names.02:46
[Relic]anyone using flickr.com and firefox?  I can't figure out what I need to do to log in?  I can log in through konquer but not firefox02:46
intelikeyscrottles also of note.  64bit may not have that package...  idk.02:46
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: the 8.41 one?02:46
scrottleswell im using a 32bit celleron02:47
nosrednaekimnoam_: hmmmm is everything working on your system?02:47
intelikeythen we may assume that that wont apply02:47
nosrednaekimscrottles: no..don't saw code names...02:47
nosrednaekim*swap02:47
nosrednaekimscrottles: just download the raw deb, no repository required02:47
intelikeynosrednaekim careful.02:47
noam_nosrednaekim, as far as i can see yes02:48
noam_urgh02:48
nosrednaekimintelikey: of what?02:48
BluesKajnosrednaekim: no the one that came with the restricted package , whatever it may be ...havent checked yet02:48
* nosrednaekim looks around for the MPAA02:48
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: ah ok... the 8.37.02:48
intelikeyi agree that the file is a simple dl  but dont mess up his train of thought in the middle of hacking his sources.list02:48
nosrednaekimlol02:48
noam_nosrednaekim, it's just because kdelibs4-dev requires kdelibs4 version something-something-ubuntu2, and i have ubuntu302:49
BluesKajnosrednaekim:  you running 64 bit too?02:49
nosrednaekimnoam_: ah... why are you installing the -dev?02:50
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah..02:50
lee986321grr i need the page that sets up the ati drivers he one i saved is missing some things02:50
noam_i just have it installed, i guess02:50
BluesKajgoogle earth ?02:50
thomas_I get crackling sound when I play a game that uses openal/alsa... I've tried artsd (no sound), and oss (no sound). What's the deal?02:50
noam_i haven't installed it02:50
intelikeyand for the record nosrednaekim and scrottles there are links on that page that take you to a dirrect download02:50
nosrednaekimnoam_: ah... well dont worry about it, it should be all fixed soon when Riddel pushes the updates02:51
noam_i see02:51
lee986321Method 2: Install the 8.41.7 Driver Manually<<<<neds the lingk for this can some one assist plese02:52
lee986321eh genii are yiou still online?02:52
wesleyAt some packings from compiz stands break02:52
Assidhey02:53
nosrednaekimlee986321: go to the AMD/ATI site linux drivers-> select the top of the line ATI radeon HD card and you have it02:53
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: rebooting to see how these ATI drivers work :)02:54
excitatoryi'm interested in upgrading, but have a few questions: one, i have CompizFusion installed via trev1nos feisty repo.. should i purge that package and remove the repo before i upgrade?  two, should i remove XGL, including modifications to /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and the compiz startup scripts, or just let the upgrade manager take care of that?  and three, can i dist-upgrade, or should i use adept considering i have a custom sources.list??02:55
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thomas_anyone else have sound issues with openal and alsa?02:57
zolar1how stable is kubuntu 7.10 ?02:57
Assidati doesnt really need anything extra02:58
nosrednaekimyalp...ATI drivers work great02:58
Assidim using it02:58
max_right now i installed kubuntu 7.10, up to now it's running02:59
Assidyou dont need to modify squat02:59
nosrednaekimno suspend... but with a 45 second boot to KDE, I can deal with that :)02:59
Assidjust run compiz --replace once02:59
Assidbtw... usplash is still broken02:59
nosrednaekimyeah. pretty simple03:00
lee986321nosrednaekim I have the drivers03:00
lee986321Ooooohh03:00
m00foohas http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb made it to the repository or do i need to install it on a fresh f->g system?03:01
nosrednaekimm00foo: no need to install it manually03:01
nosrednaekim*you03:01
m00foook03:01
nosrednaekim*you need to install it manually03:01
lee986321this isght? http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html nosrednaekim ?03:01
AmyRoseUh, what if you want to have the kdelibs-dev package installed?03:02
lee986321I have a radeo x30003:02
m00fooi suppose the headers did not change with the bugfix ;)03:02
nosrednaekimAmyRose: then.... ummm... you obviously don't need MSN ;)03:02
Assiderr.. how do you get the damn buddy list in pidgin to NOT shot any groups?03:02
AmyRosenosrednaekim: Uh, not exactly03:02
nosrednaekimlee986321: choose the top-of-the-line ATI radeon card03:02
nosrednaekimAmyRose: I'm kiddin ;)03:02
AmyRosenosrednaekim: I need it to compile KDE styles03:03
nosrednaekimAmyRose: you get pidgen03:03
AmyRosenosrednaekim: Pidgin's MSN support is HORRIBLE03:03
lee986321ialso have a 64 bit machine03:03
nosrednaekimAmyRose: amsn then..03:03
AmyRoseIt doesn't even support away messages!03:03
nosrednaekimlee986321: ouch... I wouldn't try it..03:03
intelikeywhat are the reserved networds again ?  192.168.* 10.*  ???03:03
AmyRoseintelikey: Yeah, and 172.x.y.z03:04
intelikey174.*03:04
intelikeyk03:04
wesleywhere do i get CompizFusionIcon for amd6403:04
intelikeyis that all ?03:04
AmyRoseOh, am I wrong?03:04
intelikeyAmyRose no.03:04
Assidnosrednaekim: need those drivers for ati radeon mobility 9000?03:04
AmyRoseOK03:04
Assidc-cf seems working fine here03:04
m00foointelikey: 10.*03:04
intelikeyAmyRose i was guessing 174 but when i saw the 172  i have to agree.03:05
m00foointelikey: http://www.pantz.org/networking/tcpip/privatereserved.shtml03:05
Assidhey intelikey03:05
intelikeyAssid03:05
AmyRoseI thought so, but I am not in IT, so I didn't know ^^;03:05
AssidAmyRose: whats wrong?03:05
Assidintelikey: ltns03:05
Assiderr.. anyone know how to disable the widnwo from snapping when you move it around?03:05
Assidit snaps to the corners of the screen03:06
seriekrockkopete crashes, and i get this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41257/ , when i log on, can anyone help me?03:06
m00fooseriekrock: install  http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb03:06
intelikeyAssid there 'used' to be a simple proxsemity "snap to" setting in the  desktop configuration03:06
nosrednaekiminstall this http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb03:07
mrksbrdhas anyone attempted to make a bootable iso of a backup??, what i'm looking to do is download all updates & progs, run some sort of backup of entire image, then have it bootable and be able to launch a re-install if needed03:07
seriekrocki dont have i386 system03:07
* AmyRose is trying to get KDE 4 to work...03:07
seriekrocki have 64 bit system03:07
nosrednaekimseriekrock: ouch.... ask on #kubuntu-devel03:08
adz21cseriekrock: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb03:08
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nosrednaekimahh there you go :)03:08
Assidintelikey: trying to find03:08
seriekrockadz21c: thanks :)03:08
Assidintelikey: someone screwed up in the final release03:08
adz21cnp03:08
Assidusplash is broken for me03:09
scrottleswhats a friendly bit-torrent program ?03:09
Assidused to work in the daily builds and beta releases03:09
Assidscrottles: deluge03:09
seriekrockscrottles: ktorrent03:09
intelikeyah 172.16.*    glad you posted that link m00foo lest i should have an open b class un-protected.03:09
scrottlesthanx fellaz03:09
shadowhywindhay all i have a bit of problem. I was in the middle of the install part of the upgrade, when KDM crashed and went back to the login screen. What should do I do to continue the install?03:10
Assidstupid pidgin03:10
seriekrockcool its fixed now :)03:10
Assidi cant remove the groups03:10
mrksbrdI noticed when running sudo apt update, said it was release candidate from 10/09.......any ideas???????/03:10
Assidi want to see a simple listing.. no groups.. and it dont work03:10
m00foointelikey: it's actually 172.[16-31].* in case you over-read it ;-)03:11
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: rerun the upgrade app..03:11
intelikeyAssid yeah. each release has it's bugs.   one reason i don't upgrade much.  i'm not a pest control specialest03:11
shadowhywindit says that adept is locked03:11
nosrednaekim!adeptfix03:12
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:12
intelikeym00foo yeah,  no i just over simplified my post.03:12
Ange|usis it posible to install an ubuntu feisty repo on gutsy?03:13
Assiderr.. why is it such a pain to get bluetooth+gprs working?03:13
Assidwhy cant we have a simple dialer that works03:13
JucatoAnge|us: 1. you shouldn't, 2. it will be a bit useless if a package of the same name but of a higher version exists in the gutsy repo03:14
shadowhywindok after i ran that command, now go back to adept and re run the setup?03:14
Ahmuck!mp303:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:14
mrksbrdAssid, KPPP doesn't work?03:14
Assidmrksbrd: not the last time i tried03:14
Assidwill try again in a bit..03:14
Ange|usJucato: its the smb4k repo from their site, because they provide newer versions then kubuntu's one03:14
Ange|us:p03:14
Jucatoaaah 3rd party repo03:15
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: yeah03:15
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: and try not to do anything on your computer03:15
Ange|usso is it posible to install a 3rd party repo of feisty on gutsy?03:15
RipRapRobCan't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and check 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option. Any suggestions?03:15
Assidmrksbrd:  does your usplash work ?03:15
shadowhywindk, I wasn't really doing anything before either.. but i will mmake sure to close everything and turn off the screensaver03:16
Ange|usmine doesn't Assid03:16
nosrednaekimRipRapRob: did you add a new .dekstop file to /usr/share/xsessions?03:16
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mrksbrdAssid, brain fart....usplash???03:16
AssidAnge|us: thought so03:16
intelikeymrksbrd the non-text startup thingy03:17
Assidmrksbrd:  the loader that shows kubuntu and progress bar03:17
intelikeyusplash = eyecandy for the boot loader03:17
mrksbrdoh yes works fine03:17
Assidstupid thing dont work for me03:18
Assidtried to reinstall it .. still nothing03:18
Assidand i know it downloaded from online and not the CD version.. so it used some update03:18
Ange|usAssid: i can't find a solution neither03:18
leileiloli wonder if it's possible to get my old Interact Hammerhead FX gamepad to work in linux03:18
intelikey!usplash | Assid have you tried redoing it ?03:18
ubotuAssid have you tried redoing it ?: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork03:18
mrksbrddid u use live cd or alt?03:18
leileilolit doesn't work in win2000/xp03:18
leileilolat all03:18
leileilolworks in 9x03:18
RipRapRobnosrednaekim: Yes03:18
lee986321question does this mean enable the driver or....?sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager-kde03:18
Assidmrksbrd: live03:19
lee986321cancel that03:19
Ange|usi tried both alt and live , both don't work, the monitor turns off till the kde login comes then it turns back on03:19
shadowhywindok so that command finally finished03:19
lee986321System > Administration > Software Sources. Check "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" box. does this mean enable the driver?03:19
lee986321or is ir something different?03:20
nosrednaekimAHHH! stupid XGL and shift bkspace!03:20
mrksbrdI always use Alt cd whenever possible, some puters don't like live cd for some reason03:20
draikWhere can I find information on the meaning to the various folders under "/"03:20
intelikeyAnge|us that's a fbcon issue.03:20
intelikeyAnge|us notebook ?03:20
Assidokay ran it.. hopefully shood work03:20
AssidAnge|us: yeah same here03:21
nosrednaekimRipRapRob: sorry, did you answer?03:21
intelikeyfbcon -- kernel frame buffering support for the console03:21
Assidrun "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" and reboot03:21
Assidsee if it works03:21
Assidif i reboot it will take me forever to log back in03:21
Assidhehe03:21
Ange|usAssid: ok i will give it a try and tell you if it works :)03:21
RipRapRobnosrednaekim: Yes. And the answer is yes, I did :)03:21
intelikeyAssid i don't really know any other way to test usplash tho03:22
Assidintelikey: dont think there is another way03:22
mrksbrd I noticed when running sudo apt update, said it was release candidate from 10/09.......any ideas???????03:22
Assidman people in pidgin are kinda arrogant in a way03:22
Ange|usAssid: that command gave me a getopt error03:23
Assidgetopt?03:23
Ange|uspidgin is ugly :p03:23
Ange|usthis /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 13: getopt: not found03:23
intelikeyAssid been to #perl lately ?03:23
Assidokay that just isnt good03:24
mrksbrddid they post wrong release ??????????03:24
zolar1good night all03:24
Assidintelikey: nah03:24
Assidsomething there i should know abt03:24
Assidopen amsn.. and i get an error "the requested file has not been translated in the language yet"03:24
Assidor something like that03:24
Ahmuckare people able to play cbs's intertube videos ?03:24
intelikey<Assid> man people in pidgin are kinda arrogant in a way <<< thus follows >>> <intelikey> Assid been to #perl lately ?03:25
Assidwtf? its not translated into english/03:25
Assidhehe03:25
Assidyeah ive seen then be arrogant too03:25
intelikey:)03:25
Assideeks im getting a super bad display for amsn03:25
coreymonhey guys03:25
Ange|usi get that error too in amsn Assid but it doesn;t give problems so dw03:25
coreymonmy upgrade messed up so now i am forced to fresh install since my system will be unusable next time i restart03:26
Assiddw?03:26
AssidAnge|us: the fonts are horrible03:26
mcrandellogah now getting inode inconsistency errors? #(*$ it reinstall time03:26
nosrednaekimcoreymon: go gutsy!03:26
coreymonso, what i want to do is split my home directory off into a seperate partition so that i dont have to delete in on fresh install03:26
coreymonhow do i go about doing that03:26
nosrednaekimcoreymon: probably best done from a liveCD03:26
coreymonshould i come back when im running from a gutsy live?03:27
mcrandellocoreymon remember to back up everything first03:27
nosrednaekimdelete unneccesary files, boot into livecd, shrink partition, create new partition03:27
intelikeycoreymon make a place for it, then copy the contents over and go.03:27
mcrandellocan't be said enough03:27
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41258/ what did i do wrong?03:27
Ange|uslol Assid , mine are fine03:27
coreymonmcrandello: back everything up? my system is corrupted, if i back things up it will just back up corrupted stuff03:27
nosrednaekimcoreymon: he means your data03:27
coreymonmcrandello: all i want is my home dir03:27
sub[t]rnluse an alternate cd, and upgrade03:27
mcrandellocoreymon well anything off of /home/coreymon that you want to keep ;^)03:28
nosrednaekim+1 sub[t]rnl03:28
AssidAnge|us: absolutely horrible03:28
intelikeycoreymon i think he means  make backups of all important data.03:28
Assidwhat did you do to make it look good03:28
nosrednaekimbye all! have a nice day/night03:28
sub[t]rnltake care nosrednaekim03:28
intelikeynosrednaekim you too.03:28
secleinteerhi, can someone tell me how to get the kmenu in kde 4 beta 3 on gutsy?03:28
mcrandelloI always go into HDD operations with the assumption that I'm going to pooch it up and lose everything, and I'm rarely dissapointed.03:28
coreymoni would like to backup my entire system, but wouldnt that just backup the corrupt parts too?03:29
leileilolso no way of getting the interact hammerhead fx gamepad to work?03:29
Ange|usnothing Assid03:29
Ange|uslol03:29
draikWhere can I find information on the meaning to the various folders under "/" ?03:29
leileilolit connects to the midi port of the sound card, btw03:29
mcrandellocoreymon, likely03:29
nosrednaekimsecleinteer: right click on desktop, run command "kickoff"03:29
intelikeycoreymon yes.  at this point it probably would.03:29
coreymonso, how do i know what i can safely backup?03:29
lumpycowDoes anyone know if wireless works in Kubuntu 7.10??03:29
Ange|uswhere you able to do that command you gave me for the usplash Assid? it gave me a getopt error03:29
seraph_can anyone tell me where to get 7.10 alternate powerpc - iso03:30
draiklumpycow: I would assume it should03:30
AmyRosedraik: There is a guide I wrote myself on it, but it's slightly outdated03:30
AssidAnge|us:  yes.. it ran here fine03:30
secleinteernosrednaekim: it gives me the kmenu in a separate box - how can i get it on the panel?03:30
draikAmyRose: Online?03:30
AmyRosedraik: Yeah... I'll PM you the link03:30
draikAmyRose: Thank you03:30
coreymonintelikey:  so, how do i know what i can safely backup?03:30
eric__so i think i need some help, after upgrade to gutsy, flgrx is not working at all03:30
Assidwhats that site to upload images and stuff?03:30
intelikeydraik i saw a good writeup on that the other day.   something about "linux file system higherarchical structure"   probably not spelled like that.03:30
Assidlike imageshack?03:30
draikintelikey: Got a link?03:31
intelikeydraik let me check.03:31
Assidlike a pastebin for images?03:31
draikThank you intelikey03:31
Jucatohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview03:31
eric__does flgrx driver upgrade when going to Gutsy?03:31
corinthCan't mount my external hard drive, outputs this message : hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100003:31
coreymonJucato: you have any idea what i can do?03:31
draikJucato: .... Why am I not surprised. How are you old friend?03:31
Jucatohttp://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html03:31
eric__and is there anyway i can fall back to the fiesty one that i was using...03:32
Jucato(more technical)03:32
Jucatodraik: trying to recover, but doing well nonetheless03:32
BluesKajno joy with google earth...wonder if it will even run on gutsy03:32
intelikeydraik doesn't look like the history goes back that far.  i'll google for it.   "you can too"03:32
Jucatocoreymon: sorry I didn't catch, what's the problem?03:32
seraph_hi guys.. im looking for gutsy alternate iso for powerpc.... i can't seem to find it on the download page..03:32
Jucato!ppc03:33
ubotuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ03:33
AssidAnge|us: http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1tg6.png03:33
draikintelikey: I wasn't too sure about what to google. " 'slash' folder meaning " " root folder contents" "/ definition " and a few other variations didn't help me much03:33
Jucatoseraph_: PPC is no longer officially supported.03:33
Assidit has amsn and the output of that command03:33
Jucatodraik:  try linux filesystem heirarchy03:33
Assidamsn looks horrible to me03:33
seraph_ohh noooo03:33
draikJucato: Thank you much03:33
Jucatoseraph_: there's still a community project for that though03:34
JucatoI don't know the channel for it03:34
Assidanyone know whats needed to make amsn look "NORMAL"?03:34
intelikeydraik http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html <<< not the one i was thinking of.  but looks ok for a simple what's what03:34
Jucatooh yeah better than the ubuntu one03:34
seraph_thank you ubotu and Jucato03:35
intelikeyi really liked the one i saw the "other day"  been about 6 weeks i guess now.03:35
Assidintelikey: you happen to use amsn by any chance?03:35
Jucato!thanks | seraph_03:35
ubotuseraph_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)03:35
rabindracan someone help me with my screen refresh rate; it's just 60 Hz, I get no other option03:35
intelikeyAssid no.03:35
Assidrabindra: TFT/LCD?03:36
rabindraAssid:CRT03:36
intelikeyreconfigure xorg03:36
Ange|usAssid: ok i made the command, now im gonna reboot to test.03:36
Assidrabindra: increase your horizontal and vertical sync ranges03:36
rabindraAssid: In Ms Windows it's 85 Hz03:36
AssidAnge|us:  k03:36
rabindraAssid:from where?03:37
Assidrabindra: /etc/X11/xorg.conf pastebin that03:37
Assidrabindra: me from where? the syncs?03:37
corinthI really like kubuntu, but I'm going to switch back to Ubuntu if I can't figure out how to mount my external hard drive!03:37
xeviousrabindra: is your monitor listed in the Monitor & Display applet in System Settings?03:37
Assid4296 frames in 5.0 seconds = 859.163 FPS03:39
mike-kubuntuok, i cant take this any more, ever since the upgrade to gutsy andy flash or java on a webpage freezes firefox, anyone know what could be going on? I'm on amd64 and i think i used the 32 bit wrapper program to get flash 9 working03:39
Assidis that decent while running compiz?03:39
chillhiya03:40
mike-kubuntu33456 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6691.180 FPS03:40
mrksbrdcorinth, u using 7.04 or 7.10?03:40
Assidmike-kubuntu: nice.. which card?03:40
coreymonJucato: someting wierd happened with my upgrade, causing it to terminate in the middle03:40
coreymonJucato: the result of which being that my system is probably corrupted, forcing me to have to do a fresh install03:40
intelikeyi get one frame each time i refresh it.03:41
Jucatocoreymon: try continuing using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends"?03:41
coreymonJucato: you mean i dont have to do fresh03:41
xeviousrabindra: you there?03:41
Jucatocoreymon: probably not if it can still be saved03:41
rabindraxevious: i think it is listed but my model is not listed in Manufacturer's list03:41
rabindraAssid: ya the syncs03:42
noam_do version numbers actually mean anything? why .04 and .10?03:42
xeviousrabindra: what brand/model?03:42
Dragnslcrnoam_- Year.Month03:42
noam_are there .05 and .57 somewhere along th way?03:42
noam_ah03:42
Jucato7.10 = 2007-10 = released October 200703:43
noam_makes sense03:43
coreymonJucato: this looks bad03:43
coreymonhttp://pastebin.ca/74309803:43
Jucatocoreymon: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"03:43
intelikeynoam_ if they released more than one per month it would look something like   7.10.3   7.10.24  7.11.6   ......03:44
AngelusAssid: no luck03:44
AngelusAssid: i bet the usplash is somekind bugged or something03:44
coreymonJucato: again, this looks bad03:44
coreymonJucato: http://pastebin.ca/74309903:44
lee986321sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debhelper \debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic how is this line  writen ?03:44
intelikeyAngelus try adding  vga=791  to the kernel line03:45
Jucatocoreymon: last try: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade --install-recommends03:45
xeviousrabindra: which brand and model monitor?03:45
Angelusalready done it intelikey03:45
Jucatocoreymon: if that doesn't work, I think theere's a command to force dpkg to install sfs-server03:45
lee9863211pastebin03:46
lee986321!pastebin03:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:46
intelikeyAngelus if you upgraded you could just use the older kernel for a few days until someone patches the fbcon module or the mkinitramfs  which ever is hosing things.03:46
coreymonJucato: nope03:46
AssidAngelus:  :(03:46
Jucatocoreymon: :(03:47
Angelus:(03:47
intelikeyAssid           ^  too03:47
coreymonJucato: whats the force command'03:47
coreymonJucato: cant i just get rid of sfs03:47
leileiloloh jeez i can't upgrade to 7.1003:47
Angelusintelikey: i didn't upgrade03:47
leileilolor install 7.1003:47
leileiloli'm quite in a pickle03:47
Jucatocoreymon: maybe. not really sure what it is though03:47
coreymonshouldnt getting rid of sfs fic it?03:47
Angelusintelikey:  infact i couldn't even install kubuntu, i had to install a command-line system first, you too Assid ?03:47
leileilolmy dvd burner has broken cd laser for cd media so i can't read any or burn any cd03:47
donsdwrickey: if you are still here, did you solve your problem03:47
leileilolunetbooter doesn't have a final 7.10 installer03:47
leileilolthere are no 7.10 dvds :(03:48
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41260/ sos03:48
coreymonJucato: im removing sfs03:48
Jucatocoreymon: good luck03:48
intelikeyAngelus look on the bright side.  if you didn't know that usplash worked for someone else then you would never miss it.      "how often do you normally boot that thing anyway?"  :)03:49
xeviouslee986321: what are you trying to do that you need to install that stuff?03:49
Angelusintelikey: many times a day, since i use windows to play games :p03:49
lee986321yes03:49
coreymonJucato: oh s**t, this reaaaallly doesnt look good03:49
coreymonJucato: http://pastebin.ca/74310203:49
lee986321Angelus yes03:49
Angelusintelikey:  and im the c00l kind of guy who  wants his computer to look cool :p03:49
rabindraxevious: Samsung SyncMaster 794MG; it detects my monitor as PlugnPlay03:49
lee986321xevious i saved the doc but its pretty chewed up03:50
coreymonJucato: bad?03:50
Jucatocoreymon: I don' t know what sfs-server is... so can't really say how to solve that... perhaps it's a service in /etc/init.d/ ?03:50
intelikeyAngelus it sounds to me like you installed linux in the wrong box.03:50
lee986321Angelus ill paste the entire doc03:50
jmichaelxis there a repo available to install realplayer from, or are people generally just installing the package downloaded from real.com?03:51
rickeyyes donsdw i did thanks03:51
noam_jmichaelx, i think medibuntu has it03:51
coreymonJucato: lets find out03:51
Angeluswhat doc lee986321?03:51
noam_jmichaelx, but why do you need real player for?...03:51
Assidhaha03:51
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41261/03:51
Assidaaargh.. i want amsn to look decent03:52
xeviousrabindra: i would check the specs (horizontal and vertical refresh) of the other 794 series monitors on samsung.com and see if they match your monitor. then you can just use the 794 line under manufacturers->samsung03:52
jmichaelxnoam_: i don't think they do, i have the medibuntu repo enabled, and no real player there03:52
lee986321Angelus the one i just pasted its for the ati drivers03:52
Assidhrmm03:52
Angelusi have geforce lee98632103:52
Angelusseires 803:52
Angelus:p03:52
mike-kubunt1sorry, i got kicked off03:52
coreymonJucato: my guess is that it means shared file system03:52
Jucatooh03:52
Assidoh03:52
jmichaelxnoam_: i use it for some things.... .rm streams if i want to watch them in a stand alone player. not all that much, but i do use it some03:52
Assidi just had a theory03:53
coreymonJucato: that seems to be the one that makes the most sense in the list03:53
rickeywhat do you need realplayer for wen kubuntu has so many good players03:53
Assidif you also were on an ati03:53
Jucatocoreymon: you can always apt-cache show sfs-server03:53
VousDeuxI'm running VMware WS on desktop 2. When I go fullscreen, is there some way I can switch to desktop 1 without leaving fullscreen?03:53
lee986321can some one help with the html version of this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41261/03:53
AssidAngelus: wanna know something funny?03:53
Assidit worked during the beta and daily builds and even alpha releases03:53
coreymonJucato: sfs-server - Self-Certifying File System server03:53
coreymonJucato: so, what is it?03:54
Angelusthe only versions i tried assid where the RC and final lol03:54
sub[t]rnlVousDeux: via the desktop pager applet in kicker03:54
Jucatocoreymon: no idea. first tie I saw it03:54
rabindraxevious: thanks for the efforts you will make; the 794 model is not listed in the manufacturer's list03:54
AssidAngelus: bet you it worked in the RC03:54
xeviousrabindra: i just saw the 794MB in there03:54
Angelusit didnt Assid03:54
Assidhrmm03:55
Assidwerd03:55
ubuntu__I need some help with VMWare...03:55
coreymonJucato: let me guess, i have to fresh dont i?03:55
VousDeuxsub[t]rnl: I can't see the kicker of the host os when I have the guest on full screen.03:55
mcrandellowierd I reinstalled and now I can get into X.03:55
ubuntu__I can't get it to stop logging in as ubuntu...03:55
mike-kubunt1how would you suggets i find out whats making my firefox crash03:55
Jucatocoreymon: unless you can find the dpkg option to force overwrite... which isn't really good though... but at this point... I don't know anymore..03:55
Assidmike-kubunt1: you still facing gmail issue?03:56
Kanuhahaving problems getting my wireless working. I have a linksys wmp11 pci card, I enabled the restricted drivers03:56
ubuntu__How do i get it to stop logging into the default account?03:56
mcrandellomike-kubunt1, mv your .firefox or .mozilla dir to .firefox-backup, and try restarting it03:56
rabindraxevious: it's not there in mine03:56
AngelusAssid: i found someone who made it work, i'll tell you how as soon as i get it working :)03:56
mrksbrdwhen attempting to d/l new wallpapers from "configure desktp" I get the following error(s)............"could not connect to host...http://download.kde.org/khotnewstuff/wallpaper-providers.xml"......then second error sts "error parsing providers list"03:56
lee986321LiAmO are you n line?03:56
mcrandellomike-kubunt1, then reinstall extensions 1 at a time, finally copying your bookmarks back over from the backup dir03:56
mike-kubunt1Assid: yeah, but its gmail and pretty much any site with java or flash03:56
Assidmike-kubunt1: just logged into my gmail.... worked fine03:57
xeviousrabindra: Samsung -> Samsung Syncmaster 794MB/794MBplus/798MB03:57
xeviousrabindra: are you using feisty or gutsy?03:57
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Assidalthought my fontws could look a bit better03:57
mike-kubunt1Assid: i think its because i used that 32 bit plugin wrapper and its still for feisty03:57
sub[t]rnlKanuha: look into ndiswrapper03:57
Assidhrmm k03:57
mike-kubunt1but i don't remember what the package was called03:57
Assiderr.. anyone know wht can i do to make the fonts better?03:57
AngelusAssid: ok ,  apt-get install startupmanager , and play with the settings, shout get it to work :D03:57
Kanuhasub[t]rnl, I installed that already03:57
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Assidim on a laptop w/ lcd..03:58
trevor_Can I get help with user accounts?03:58
Assidalso enabled subpixel hinting03:58
rabindraxevious: feisty03:58
xeviousrabindra: ah. i'm in gutsy03:58
sub[t]rnlKanuha: is it having trouble seeing the wireless routers, or just with the WEP key03:58
Kanuhasub[t]rnl, I tried entering the asci phrase and the hex, but I cannot see my wireless network.03:59
rabindraxevious: but list should not matter much. I know with some change in xconf file may be i will be able to do but last time i did it and i had to reinstall my kubuntu04:00
sub[t]rnlKanuha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7319 see if anything here can get you moving04:00
trevor_!users04:00
ubotuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo04:00
Assidshould i exclude the range from 8-15 ?04:00
AngelusAssid:  did you install it ?04:00
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41262/ eh having issues waht am I doing wrong?04:00
AssidAngelus: nah.. other stuff being installed04:01
Angelusok04:01
AssidAngelus: my 2mbit gets over in like 1/2 hr.. wanna download as much as i can04:01
Angeluswhen you're ready install startupmanager Assid it will fix it :p04:01
AssidAngelus: after tht im down to 128kbit04:01
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VousDeuxnevermind, I just had to assign a shortcut sequence.04:01
ekrengeldoes anyone know how to fall back to fiesty's flgrx driver after upgrading to gutsy?04:02
ekrengelgutsy's driver is def not workin with my card04:02
sub[t]rnllee986321: try apt-get update04:02
wilsonyou cant ekrengel it's tied to the kernel04:02
ekrengelgaaaaaaah04:02
ekrengelits killin me04:02
lee986321sub[t]rnl ok04:03
ekrengelwould i have to do anything after the upgrade for dependencies?04:03
ekrengelsomething that i might have missed04:03
sub[t]rnlekrengel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the flgrx driver04:04
sub[t]rnlalso, look into aticonfig04:04
ekrengelyeah i had a custom xorg.conf file in fiesty04:04
mcrandelloekrengel, you could always use the ati installer, but you'd have to comment out everything in /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and then manually search and destroy ubuntu's fglrx modules for it to work04:04
ekrengelthat was working great04:04
Assiderr should i exclude the range for anti aliasing?04:04
lee986321sub[t]rnl http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41263/04:05
mcrandelloekrengel, that's a last resort sort of thing though04:05
ekrengelwell i'll try the reconfigure and see if i can get it somewhat working04:05
wilsonlee986321: you got some other package manager program open ? like adept04:06
mike-kubunt1wow, it must be a plugin04:07
mike-kubunt1i wonder what one04:07
mcrandelloadd them back in 1 at a time, restart and test until you got the culprit04:07
mcrandellobadaboom badabing04:07
mike-kubunt1i bet its flash though04:08
wilsonlee986321: forget what i said04:08
jmichaelxwill there be a gutsy-commercial repository, or has that been replaced by the partners repo?04:08
mcrandellomike-kubunt1, what are we up to flash 10 now? maybe 9 or 8 would work better if that's the party crasher04:09
lee986321ok04:09
Assiderr04:09
AssidAngelus: i found out about the amsn issue04:09
wilsonmodule-assistant hmm04:09
lee986321yeah I need to translate all this into kubuntu and  change fiesty to gutsy04:09
Assidyou need to recompile tcl/tk AND amsn04:09
Angeluslol Assid nice fix04:10
AngelusAssid: im playing with the startupmanager to fix the bootup splash04:10
Angelussomebody knows what size is kubuntu bootup splash?04:10
mike-kubunt1mcrandello: do they have a 64bit flash out yet?04:11
Angelusno mike-kubunt104:11
Angelusmike-kubunt1: but you can use nspluginwrapper04:11
mike-kubunt1yeah, thats what i'm doing so far04:11
mike-kubunt1i think i'm still on flash 9 though04:11
mcrandellomike-kubunt1, that one I have no idea on04:11
wilsoni dunno lee986321 there's a module-assistant for me04:11
ekrengelhmm04:12
wilsonmaybe there's a problem with the repository you're using04:12
ekrengelthat didn't work04:12
mcrandellookay. I just put gutsy on here and adept says there's a new distribution available, I think I'm doing this wrong04:12
ekrengelah i never should have upgraded04:12
wilsonmy rep has it lee98632104:14
wilsonhttp://ftp.netspace.net.au/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/module-assistant/04:14
wilsonwell, its not my rep, its the rep i use04:15
mike-kubunt1wow04:17
mike-kubunt1i'm not sure what messed it up, but it was seriously messed up04:17
mike-kubunt1i desabled all the plugins and it still didn't fix it04:17
lee986321is the last line being written coretly?04:18
ekrengelok looks pretty much the same as before after the second go-around with the reconfigure04:18
ekrengelat the top toolbar with all my icons, everything is blurred out04:18
lee986321wilson that  is ok I jsut need to know i the last line is writen corectly04:19
ekrengeli dont know what else to do...04:19
ekrengeli might just backup my stuff and do a fresh install of fiesty04:19
wilsoner, on the last run, you didn't use sudo04:20
lee986321Nver mind Problem solved04:20
mikeKonqueror keeps crashing?04:21
mike-kubunt1how do i transfer my bookmarks over?04:21
mikeIcannot d/load gkrellm with add/remove,,had to use apt-get ,,like debian :)04:21
mike-kubunt1i mooved bookmarks.html but it didnt seem to do much04:21
mcrandelloseriously though what happens if I click in adept to upgrade to the new distribution. I'm already on Gutsy...04:21
* mcrandello doesn't want to open a portal to the future04:22
fausticongreeetings. eh... i seem to be having some problems running the 7.10 live cd.04:23
miketell all04:23
doneillI had an interesting glitch in the RC for Gutsy where entries in the K-Menu were labelled "K-menu_entries--Control Centre" and such, has anybody run into this and/or know if it was fixed in the release?  (AMD64/OEM Install)04:23
mikekcontrol crashes,,I know that04:24
fausticonIt boots normally for a bit and then dumps me back to the cli with "udev_event[2230]: run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit".04:24
fausticonIt returns the same trying in safe mode and with regular Ubuntu, so I'm assuming my machine is being screwy again.04:25
mikefausticon, This will fix it   http://sidux.com/04:25
mikeFixed mine :)04:26
fausticonheh04:27
VousDeuxhmmm...I've been using Gutsy since August. I've kept up with the updates on a daily basis, why is the Adept Updater sayinig I need to do a version upgrade now?04:27
mikeThere is no real "safe mode" :)04:27
mikevoidmage, I get the same on boot04:27
mikeMaybe its not really finished !04:28
craigevilHost/Kernel/OS  "craigevil" running Linux 2.6.23.1-slh-smp-3 i686 [ sidux 2007-03.1 - Γαια - kde-full - (200708151444) ]04:28
craigevilCPU Info        AMD Duron 64 KB cache flags( sse ) clocked at [ 1800.144 MHz ]04:28
craigevilVideocard       nVidia NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]  X.Org 1.4.0  [ 1280x1024 @50hz ]04:28
craigevilNetwork cards   Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet, at port: e40004:28
craigevilProcesses 84 | Uptime 1day | Memory 395.0/2027.3MB | HDD ATA WDC WD800JB-00JJ Size 80GB (45%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce FX 5500/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! | GLX Version 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19 | Client Konversation 1.0.1 | Infobash v2.6704:28
craigevilcrap sorry wrong channel04:28
mikecraigevil, looks nice04:29
VousDeuxWhy do I get a bad feeling that this version upgrade is going to break everything.04:29
wilsonSysinfo for 'Athas': Linux 2.6.23.1 running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz at 3240 MHz (6958 bogomips), HD: 66/854GB, RAM: 753/2026MB, 192 proc's, 6.45min up04:29
LynoureVousDeux: then backup first. :)04:29
lee986321!pastebin04:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:29
ekrengelVousDeux: maybe just your video drivers04:30
ekrengelif you have ati04:30
doneill!launchpad04:30
ubotuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/04:30
doneillpfft, i want to see the kde part :p04:30
ekrengelim gonna reinstall and put fiesty back on...04:30
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doneillekrengel: whats up with gutsy?04:30
mikeekrengel,  try sidux04:30
Assiddoneill: too many issues?04:30
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41267/ does any one understand waht it is that I ma trying to do , I need a check to see if this is right so far04:30
ekrengelflgrx wasn't working at all with my video card04:31
VousDeuxoh, haha...it's only doing 5 packages04:31
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Assiderr.. that usplash didnt fix itself04:31
Assidalso.. compiz dies every alternate boot04:31
doneilli can't remember ever using the fglrx packages from the repository04:31
Assidand i cant access terminal04:31
doneillbut if it works on feisty, you might as well04:31
ekrengelit was working perfectly in fiesty, so im just gonna put it back to how it was04:31
ekrengelyeah04:31
doneillalthough it would be much appreciated if you reported the bug on launchpad04:31
ekrengeli have my xorg backed up04:31
doneilljust so they get around to fixing it04:31
ekrengeli would...but i cant even get flgrx outputs04:32
ekrengeli guess i could get the xorg log04:32
ekrengeli dont know how much good that will do though04:32
ekrengeli've got an X700 Pro04:33
mikerun "smxi" in Sidux :)04:33
ekrengeli was using merged FB04:33
ekrengeloh yeah?04:33
ekrengelyou like sidux?04:33
arashSo people :), I want to upgrade to the latest 7.10, I want to make a back up of the system before doing so, what can you recommend?04:34
mrksbrdwhat does this mean...............Hal-Storage-Removable-Mount-All-Options-Refused UID 1000........rec'd this when plugging in my USB External HDD04:34
ekrengelmike: what do you like about it?04:34
BigDaddyhey guys, I can't remember. During installation, does Kubuntu as where the /home directory is? Or do I have to manuall set that after the installation?04:34
mikeekrengel, Sidux with smxi is so damn fast and easy04:35
ekrengeldo you have an ati card?04:35
mikeToo many errors in 7.1004:35
doneillekrengel: every little bit helps04:35
mikeekrengel, Nvidia on this one04:35
mikeati 200 xpress on the laptop04:36
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* mrksbrd wants to know what does this mean...............Hal-Storage-Removable-Mount-All-Options-Refused UID 1000........rec'd this when plugging in my USB External HDD04:37
ImpaledOnRebarHow to serve up strigi to users on intranet?04:37
Assidhrmm reporting a whole lot of bugs04:37
flaccidmrksbrd, search launchpad bugs and check fstab for nouser or user option04:38
flaccidlol ubuntu is a bug04:38
mrksbrdk04:38
mikeubuntu is better sorted with compiz-fusion04:39
Assidsorted?04:39
Assidreporting to ubuntu is the same as reporting to kubuntu in launchpad right04:40
mikeWell it worked ,,,,I hope it still does\04:40
flaccidyeah04:40
Assidk04:40
Assid3rd bug filed04:40
BigDaddyAnyone know about the /home mountin gduring install?04:40
ekrengelmike: what does sidux use? kde? xfce?04:40
Assidfew more to go04:40
flaccidlol04:40
mikeekrengel, kde04:40
mikefull and fast04:40
arashCan I put whole my Kubuntu system and all in it to a external hard drive and later recover if upgrade to 7.10 goes wrong?04:40
BigPickEh... I have never had good experiences with external harddrives.04:41
flaccidyou can't recover an upgrade, but you can try to repair by downgrading etc.04:41
mrksbrdflaccid, i get this error in terminal....Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-<user>" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 004:41
mikeDowngrading hell!04:41
flaccidmrksbrd, people have reported that a lot04:41
BigPickDowngrading == the Devil's tool.04:41
mrksbrdlol, what does it mean??/04:42
flaccidit means it wants that file to be owned by root and not the user04:42
mikeThe 7.10 release is not sorted :(04:42
flaccidreport it on launchpad04:42
flaccid!bugs04:42
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots04:42
mrksbrdi should just go back to 7.0404:42
arashflaccid , I was thinking of do some sort of back up of everything, and just rawly rewrite the whole partition if upgrade to 7.10 goes wrong?04:43
mikeubuntu gui works a little better but I am not a Gnome fan04:43
flaccidi think we have to get used to premature releases04:43
[Relic]any ideas on why I have no applications list on the bar?04:43
BigPick7.10 not sorted...? Lemme know know 'cause I'm downloading it as we speak.04:43
BigDaddymike: what does that mean? Not sorted?04:43
flaccidarash, i would install with a separate /home partition which is not default so that you do'nt have to worry04:43
mikemany probs04:43
mikecompiz-fusion not installed04:44
flaccidits pretty normal for ubuntu to release a buggy prod release04:44
sub[t]rnlheh04:44
flaccidcompiz-fusion is not with kubuntu, but unubntu04:44
flaccid!compiz-fusion04:44
sub[t]rnlmike, this is all a known fact04:44
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion04:44
flaccidit can be i nstalled04:44
BigPickThere are always problems. Its just whether or not I can get to sleep tonight.04:44
mikeIts included in Ubuntu?04:44
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager04:44
sub[t]rnlboom, kde compiz04:44
flaccidthere should only be a few, minor problems with prod releases. they should be tested throughouly first04:44
ekrengelim not going back to sleep untill i get it back to the way it was04:44
ekrengellol04:44
mikerc 16 :(04:45
BigDaddymike: do you think 7.10 is not worthy of desktop use yet?04:45
* arash waits a month with upgrade :p04:45
Assidmore bugs.. more bugs....04:45
flaccidlol04:45
mikenot for a noob too many fixes needed04:45
* Assid does more bug reporting04:45
arashbut it seems to have so many new good features :(04:45
flaccidlike?04:45
Assidi am doing more bug reporting in 1 day then i did in 1 week04:46
BigDaddycrap, I just spent all damn day dowloading the DVD hoping it would be more stable than my 7.0404:46
arashDolphin, OO 2.304:46
mikehttp://sidux.com/   =stable04:46
flaccidit might be stable for some users. everyone's variables are different04:46
mikeGaia04:46
BigPickKDE 4 Beta! <304:46
ekrengelmike: i'll give sidux a try04:47
arashKDE 4 looks ugly imo04:47
mikeI want linux to work for me not the converse :)04:47
flaccidit you want a working unix desktop, something bsd is going to be more stable than linux04:47
arashmike, good one ;)04:47
BigPickGive KDE 4 some time. And yes it does look like it got hit by a bus.04:47
ekrengelbut im seeing on the front page that ati driver is still broken in xorg 7.304:47
ekrengelso i dunno if it will make a difference, what is guty's xorg version?04:48
BigPickFlaccid, why would you ever wish BSD on someone... ever...04:48
wilsonkubuntu 7.10 is fine for me04:48
wilsonthere's a few nagging things but meh04:48
flaccidBigPick, because somebody mentioned the word stability....04:48
flaccidduh04:48
mikeI am using compiz-fusion in Sidux  with much less cpu input than ubuntu?04:48
wilsonksystemlog crashes for no reason, but it looks to be a kde4 app bastardised into kubuntu04:48
BigPickYeah, my servers were stable. So stable nothing ran. Then I switched to Debian then Ubuntu. Much happier now.04:49
BigPickRocks are stable.04:49
BigDaddymike: why are you in the kubuntu channel if you are not a kubuntu user?04:49
Jucatowilson: ksystemlog is a KDE 3 app04:49
flaccidBigPick, probably a user problem. what were the servers running?04:49
Assid1 more bug reported04:49
mikeBigDaddy, I have it installed on one drive ,,I am a user04:49
wilsonkde-window-decoractor crashed a few times, so im using emerald, that's fine. If you right click on the titlebar and chose 'move' or any of the move options and try to use them, the thing you are moving will just disappear, it's still running, but disappeared04:50
NukedIm running gutsy i386 using the intel i915 chipset... on my viewsonic monitor it seems to refuse displaying the image at 1440x900... how can I fix this (it worked fine under feisty)04:50
arashmeh, I'll be ready to upgrade by the time CDs arrive, so I better get going (logins to shipit)04:50
NukedBigPick: rocks are stable until someone stumbles over them04:50
flaccidsome people don't know how to admin rocks, too :)04:51
BigPickflaccid, openbsd 4.2, freebsd 5.504:51
BigDaddymike: OK... I have seen people come into a room just to pimp their fav distro. Didn't mean to insult you, just so you know04:51
BigPickI will have you all know my admining skills onced caused a server to kill itself.04:51
sub[t]rnlNuked: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:51
BigPickHung itself by its own power chord.04:51
mikeBigDaddy, Maybe several updates needed but not what I would expect for a 'final"04:51
flaccidBigPick, problem looks like it was you :)04:51
Nukedsub[t]rnl: I did that... no result04:51
sub[t]rnlNuked: are you using xserver-xorg-video-intel?04:52
BigPickI know! BSD is not idiot proof. Ubuntu isn't perfect but its getting better.04:52
NukedI would assume so sub[t]rnl04:52
flaccidnothing is idiot proof, and nothing should be :)04:52
Nukedshould I have used the i810?04:52
BigDaddymike: do you know if there is a point in the kubuntu installation that alowes you to assign the partition the /home is on?04:52
wilsonjacto: my bad, i got 3.4 mixed up with 404:52
flaccidi think you might mean the word intuitive :)04:52
Nukedflaccid: agreed04:52
mikeBigDaddy, I also like pclos and Sidux ,,both kde04:52
BigDaddypclos?04:53
sub[t]rnlNuked: well, I have used that resolution with the intel driver, and setting it within xorg.conf04:53
mike-kubunt1how do you ad an icon to a webpage04:53
mike-kubunt1like the left hand of the adress bar04:53
BigPickIntuitive... nah, sounds too much like a windows interface word.04:53
wilsonJucato: is it in the source branch of 3.5, i couldnt find it04:53
QwertyMmike-kubunt1: add a picture file named favicon.ico to the root directory of the website04:53
Nukedsub[t]rnl:  the screen doesnt display the image properly... there are 2 inches of black sitting to the left of my desktop04:53
sub[t]rnlNuked: adjust your monitor?04:54
QwertyMmike-kubunt1: it can be anything png, jpg or gif but just name it favicon.ico04:54
Nukedsub[t]rnl: I have... still nothing04:54
flaccidBigPick, its actually UI theory :)04:54
BigPickIdiotproof may be a high goal to set but I think it is an achievable one. :)04:54
mike-kubunt1QwertyM: are there size limits?04:54
sub[t]rnlhrm04:54
mikeI got the wrong screen resolution on boot?04:54
Nukedsub[t]rnl: its really strange actually04:54
mike1280x800?04:54
QwertyMmike-kubunt1: no .. but it looks good if its square04:54
QwertyMmike-kubunt1: and also make it small in size so that it doesn't take much time loading :)04:54
BigPickflaccid, the day I start having to learn theory is the day I start laying hardware floors.04:55
sub[t]rnlNuked: sounds like your vertical and horizontal syncs are off maybe04:55
sub[t]rnlNuked: google your monitor or check the manual for the syncs, and try plugging them in04:55
flaccidBigPick, awww thats no good04:55
BigPickI know, I hate splinters.04:55
flaccidlol04:55
Nukedsub[t]rnl: the syncs are probably off04:55
* sub[t]rnl nods04:56
sub[t]rnlhad that issue a time or 1204:56
Jucatowilson: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/sysadmin/04:56
sub[t]rnlmike: are you taling about your framebuffer?04:56
mikegui when booting04:56
Nukedsub[t]rnl:  its a pain digging that info up... it was supplied in a little handbook w/ the monitor04:56
BigPickAck... we gotta figure out a torrent-based upgrade client.04:57
mikesub[t]rnl, when up and running resolution comes right04:57
mike-kubunt1QwertyM: ok, grated the files huge right now, but its not workin here: http://fuag.is-a-geek.com/favicon.ico04:57
mike1024x768 on this monitor04:57
QwertyMmike-kubunt1: I can see it load on your homepage just fine04:58
sub[t]rnlmike: what kind of video card?04:58
QwertyMmike-kubunt1: you might have to refresh/force refresh your cache? :)04:58
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juanhello all!04:59
rr72i was upgrading and i got a segfault and it closed the dist upgrade window04:59
mikeNvidia Geforce04:59
rr72how do i resume the upgrade from where it left off?04:59
* lee986321 is really in tears and crying atm..04:59
mike-kubunt1QwertyM: thanks, your right04:59
juanthis is what i have done, i made a frenh gusty install with gnome, and then i added kubuntu-destop and kde04:59
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juanand kde is working  lot better than the gnome counterpart05:00
mikejuan, You find Ubuntu better sorted?05:00
n8k99rr72: sudo dpkg -configure -a05:00
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n8k99in a terminal05:00
juani'm not sure i like it really05:00
posingaspopularoh it's rr7205:00
posingaspopulardont help him! ;p05:01
rr72i smell tacos05:01
Jucatoright back at yah posingaspopular :P05:01
BigPickcan anyone recomend either libtorrent or libtutil for torrent client development?05:01
fulat2khi folks, is kde4 b3 still broken in gutsy?05:01
Jucatodon't help posingaspopular! he's just posing! :)05:01
Jucatofulat2k: define broken05:01
posingaspopularoh Jucato, it's much too early for you to be awake. dont be grouchy.05:01
* n8k99 doesn`t help anybody but himself05:01
lee986321ok guyd I am not able nor do I have the capacity to understand at waht I need to do to get my ati working05:01
verbosei'm getting a dcopserver error after upgrade from feisty to gutsy and i can't login to kde. i can log in failsafe. i tried removing /tmp/.ICE-unix and ~/.DCOPserver_*05:01
juanmike, some things are not really working05:01
QwertyMfulat2k: yeah, can't say broken but it sure is unusable ..05:01
mikefulat2k, Not complete05:01
Jucatoposingaspopular: it's noon exactly here. it's definitely not too early :)05:01
mike-kubunt1my mediawiki directory vanashed when i upgraded05:02
Angeluscontrast83: no luck, couldnt get it to work05:02
fulat2kdamn.05:02
sub[t]rnlmike: whats your highest resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:02
fulat2kgot sold on the screenies {G}05:02
rr72n8k99~ couldnt i just dist-upgrade?05:02
mike-kubunt1anyone know where it mighta gone?05:02
lee986321so unless, I can figure it out, iam jsut going to have to figure something else out, I am on my 20th reformatting of the hdd05:02
contrast83Angelus: Sorry, man. Not sure what else you could do. :-\05:02
posingaspopularwhen i talked to you yesterday around 4am, it would have been like 3pm over there... how were you just waking up?05:02
Angeluscontrast83: shoot myself or the computer lol05:02
verbosemike-kubunt1: have you tried using locate?05:02
BigPickwow 20th reformatting?05:02
QwertyMmike-kubunt1: locate <name> it?05:02
atlfalcons866!jffs205:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jffs2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:02
lee986321all I ask for is  some kind of help in getting the drivers up and running right..hell I'lllet you in my system if that is waht it takes05:02
contrast83Angelus: Dual-booting?05:02
mikesub[t]rnl, 1024x768 is all this lcd can take but it boots at 1280x800?05:03
Angelusyes contrast8305:03
n8k99rr72: you were in the middle of updating when it quit- thaty command will pick up where you left off05:03
rr72k ty05:03
Assidmore bug reports05:03
juanhas anyone installed kde 4 with gusty?05:03
contrast83Angelus: You could try just disabling USplash and having a text-only boot.05:03
Assidlooks like they took some weird beta and released it05:03
AssidAngelus: didnt work for me05:03
sub[t]rnlmike: whatever the highest resolution is in your xorg.conf, is what the login screen "thinks" the resolution is at, which can cause it to appear much larger than wanted05:03
n8k99!kde405:04
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php05:04
sub[t]rnlmike: so kill the high end ones that you don't use05:04
AngelusAssid: neither for me05:04
contrast83juan: Yeah. Beta 3's a big step up from Beta 2, but still a ways off from being usable on an everyday basis, for me, at least.05:04
rr72adept manager still has PID locked :/ kill it?05:04
ekrengelmike: what version of kde does sidux use?05:04
Nukedsub[t]rnl: still no result05:04
n8k99yes rr7205:04
* lee986321 heart broken that he doesn't have the mentle abilliteis to follow complex instructions05:04
mikesub[t]rnl, ok i will have to manually edit,,this is not so noob friendly,who has been writing the reviews??05:04
sub[t]rnlmike: if you want noob friendly, boot windows05:05
juananyone know why dolphin and not stick to konqueror?05:05
Nukedsub[t]rnl: chill out05:05
sub[t]rnlNuked: ?05:05
lee986321I think.I'll just forget aobut it and go back to playing my video games05:05
AngelusAssid: worst, my amsn fonts got ugly too lol05:05
Nukedthe noob friendly thing05:05
shadowhywindHay all i just finished my upgrade to gusty, and i noticed there are 3 packages to update, so when i try to update it, it says that there is a new distribution version available, what should i do?05:05
Assidhahaha05:05
n8k99juan preparing you for kde405:05
se7en^Of^9lee986321: my ac is not working ... :)05:05
AssidAngelus: wanna see a dumb bug?05:06
contrast83juan: Because they're GNOME-ifying KDE. For further evidence, compare System Settings (now the default) to Control Center.05:06
n8k99but you still have konqueror file manager juan05:06
Jucato!dolphin | juan05:06
ubotujuan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.05:06
AngelusAssid: the boot up splash was a pretty dumb one LoL05:06
verbosehow can i completely remove kde and switch to gnome?05:06
Nukedmike: the fact of the matter is that ubuntu and every other linux distro will kick your butt every now and then05:06
lee986321a/c...I know nothing aobut that lol05:06
sub[t]rnlshadowhywind: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade05:06
sub[t]rnlshadowhywind: see if that corrects it05:06
AssidAngelus: logout.. use a wrong password.. it shows wrong password, but.. it wont reset to allow you to retry05:06
Nukedmike: but stay the course... nothing will compare once you get things up and running05:06
Assidso you have to restart X05:06
juanany ideas on the benefits of dolphin?05:06
n8k99Jucato: is sooooo smart05:07
Jucatohahah05:07
mike-kubunt1how would i port the output of locate to a file?05:07
juanis it better, faster? what?05:07
n8k99juan usability05:07
Nukedjuan: lighter on resources perhaps05:07
mike-kubunt1its to long for terminal output05:07
AssidJucato:  ?05:07
rr72n8k99~ python keeps locking it05:07
verbosemike-kubunt1: locate blah > output_file05:07
Jucatojuan: usability, new features, faster, lighter, cleaner code, easier to maintain05:07
mikeNuked, kcontrol crashes as well05:07
lee986321I guess , I wsn't as smart as I thuaght I was.05:07
rr72the dpkg database05:07
Jucatojuan: and is actively worked on05:07
mike7.0.4 was solid05:07
Assidc-f still crashes on me05:07
lee986321compute codes changed so much over the las 20 years lol05:07
n8k99hmmm.... interesting rr7205:07
Assidi think its some option i enabled05:08
Toma-How do I change the keyboard layout?05:08
VousDeuxthis distribution upgrade has been at it for a long time for just 5 packages05:08
rr72python keeps launching dist-upgrade05:08
shadowhywindthe only packages that have been kepy back are compiz-core, compiz-kde, compiz-plugins05:08
sub[t]rnlrr72: adept is locked?05:08
contrast83If I want a stripped down file manager for the default, I'll go to GNOME.05:08
lee986321Iam going to try one more time05:08
n8k99then just run a dist-upgrade05:08
draikAre there any screenshots of 7.10?05:08
Nukedmike:  did you dist-upgrade by any chance?05:08
JucatoToma-: System Settings -> Regional & Layout05:08
shadowhywindshould i remove the pre-released repo now that the upgrade is done?05:09
rr72sub[t]rnl~ the dpkg database is locked05:09
lee986321se7en^Of^9 oh hi there05:09
se7en^Of^9morning lee98632105:09
se7en^Of^9:)05:09
contrast83I recognize Dolphin as a good program, but I very strongly disagree with it being the default in a desktop environment like KDE, whose strongpoint is configurability and functionality, even if it takes a bit more time to familiarize yourself with it at first. /rant05:09
juani have no splash screen when the system is booting up -or down for that matter, just a black screen05:09
lee986321ok here it is guys, Iam not an IT stuedent, I am a comon person with a dissabillity in learning and understanding complex codes and such. this is why I ask for help05:09
Assidi enabled a cube05:10
sub[t]rnlrr72: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a05:10
Assidand all i get is 2 sides of a plane05:10
Assidstupid crap05:10
mike-kubunt1aw crap, i lost my mediawiki files again...05:10
se7en^Of^9no upgrades for the last 2 days i am shocked05:10
lee986321the only programing I did was on a c-6405:10
mikeNuked, Fresh install in a dedicated drive ,,"cannot du kubuntu" It breaks05:10
sub[t]rnlse7en^Of^9: kdelibs upgrade has been issued05:10
lee986321and it was the basic of all basic05:10
NukedAssid: the solution is simple05:10
rr72sub[t]rnl~ python is running procs that are using the db right now, like dist-upgrade and when i kill them they just come back05:10
QwertyMmike-kubunt1: use that extraction operator or something "command > filename"05:11
mikeGreat for real noobs :)05:11
mike-kubunt1QwertyM: i found it, but its a blank template again05:11
gibI had one of those.  :)  It was amazing how good the word processors were for the C-64 all cramed into 64!  The PC WP of the time like MM really sucked.05:11
sub[t]rnlrr72: oh, so your not trying to unlock them05:11
rr72sub[t]rnl~ i am trying to finish an upgrade that got a seg fault05:12
lee986321aobut the only thing I can figure out is ho w to network my mothers  webtv to her pc and fix waht issues she has with windows05:12
AssidNuked:  ?05:12
Nukedyou need to set the virtual size to 405:12
sub[t]rnlrr72: kill the python PID's?05:12
rr72they come back05:12
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Nukedin the general options if memory serves correctly05:12
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AssidNuked: okay forgot that one05:12
Assidthere was something else too05:12
fulat2kjuan__: just did.  it's not usable05:13
lee986321why is the 64 bit being such a pain in the...05:13
Assidoh yeah windows are snapping to the corners.. any idea how to disable that05:13
AssidNuked:  thats when i try and move a window around05:13
sub[t]rnlrr72: ksysgurad, enable tree, find whats starting the python process, then kill it05:13
sub[t]rnlrr72: or ps aux|grep for it05:13
rr72what ive been doing05:13
NukedAssid: there is an option... i just dont know where05:14
rr72something buried in tmp kde backports05:14
sub[t]rnlAssid: yeah, your using compiz fusion?05:14
Assidyeah05:14
sub[t]rnlAssid: i remember mine doing that, there was some option is ccsm, let me try to find it again05:14
sub[t]rnlAssid: it "sticks" to other windows right?05:14
lee986321for the love of pete, when i come backonline, can some on at least access my pc to see what it is I am doing wrong05:14
Assiderr.. the sides/corners of the screen05:14
rr72sub[t]rnl~ looks like running stuff from a temp dir kde-root backport thing05:15
sub[t]rnlAssid: yeah, its in wobbly windows plugin05:15
lee986321i have all frigging night05:15
juankorversation crashed...i'm not sure i like 7.1005:15
Assidgot it.. thanks05:15
sub[t]rnlAssid: check the snap inverted off05:15
sub[t]rnlAssid: ok.. good05:16
juanhow to enable compiz in kde?05:17
sub[t]rnljuan: alt+f2 and run compiz --replace05:17
draikWhen would be a safe time to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?05:17
* lee986321 wonders if his online class room is still open as i have been trying to get this opperational..was studying ms works and...Excell05:17
lee986321missed lik a month05:18
sub[t]rnldraik: when the servers calm down probably05:18
lee986321oh well lol05:18
sub[t]rnldraik: or now, if you have the patience05:18
emanuelHi there!05:18
* se7en^Of^9 useses 7.10 since tribe 1 and never had problems05:18
sub[t]rnlse7en^Of^9: :P you beat the rush, good man05:18
draiksub[t]rnl: I'd prefer the former with an ETD05:18
rr72got it05:18
lee986321hello emanual....definition of name known05:18
Assidyou know when when you logout.. it should go to kwin and logout05:18
Assidso when you start again.. it starts properly05:19
VousDeuxokay, so this distribution upgrade appears to be hung on 'Installing the upgrades'. I clicked the X button and it warns me that the system might be unstable if I cancel...sounds like a catch-22.05:19
sub[t]rnldraik: hard telling05:19
Assidotherwise compiz messes thiings up05:19
emanuelHave anyone tried 7.10 in a Compaq F500 yet?05:19
sub[t]rnldraik: might be faster to download and burn an alternate cd and upgrade with that05:19
se7en^Of^9sub[t]rnl: i had to because my notebook wouldn't work with the old kernel05:19
rr72n8k99~ that didnt do anything lol, found errors and a bunch of dep problems05:19
sub[t]rnlse7en^Of^9: I updated as soon as rc1 came out, i knew there would be a frenzy05:19
draiksub[t]rnl: I just got the Live CD05:19
Assidokay brb.. im gonna try and get bluetooth + gprs working with kppp05:20
n8k99geez-sorry rr7205:20
sub[t]rnldraik: if your wanting to upgrade and not do a clean install, use the alternate05:20
* lee986321 system resrting05:20
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rr72n8k99~ try dist-upgrade?05:20
sub[t]rnldraik: if a fresh start doesn't bother you, drop the live05:20
draiksub[t]rnl: I get the LiveCD just in case05:20
draikNew installs or whatever05:20
lee986321se7en^Of^9 i wish I could be assumilated lol, then d be smart lol05:21
n8k99rr72: sure seems reasonable05:21
AngelusAssid: if you ever find a fix dude, tell me cause its anoying meh05:21
AssidAngelus: well i did notice it boots faster if you press CTRL ALT F1 during that phase05:21
Angelusspeed is not a problem Assid, i want the picture lol05:22
AssidAngelus: yeah dont we all05:22
ses59_I did the version upgrade from adept manager but now the version upgate is still there05:22
_michaelHello does anyone know how I can encrypt with gpg on linux, then be able to decrypt it with gpg4win on a different computer? I think I'd have to export the key but I'm not certain05:22
ses59_what should I do not05:22
ses59_do now05:23
ses59_bad spelling05:23
juanok, i am running compiz, but i don't get a cube, eventhough i enabled it, i get only 2 sides of the cube, front and back, just like a stiff sheet of paper, looks funny, but it's not what i want05:24
n8k99_michael: yes you`ll have to export your secret key to the windows machine05:24
juanand no window borders for that matter05:25
ses59_I rebooted the computer and the desktop and everything is the same as before should something be changed to boot in to the new gibbon 7.1005:25
lee_so why again is that I am changing over to linux?05:25
draikIs there a way that I can hear my voicemail in Kubuntu and have it saved on my computer?05:25
n8k99_michael: i usually copy /home/n8k99/.gpg to a thumb drive05:26
_michaeln8k99: Ok then do I just import that key on gpg4win and enter the passphrase etc... or are there other steps?05:26
juanany ideas on how to solve my problem?05:26
sub[t]rnljuan: get inside the configure-settings manager05:26
sub[t]rnljuan: ccsm05:27
lee_thre was an error committing changes.Possibly was a problem downlaoding some packages or the commit would break packages EOL05:27
n8k99_michael: you`ll need to import the keys into gpg4win- abd use the same passphrase05:27
rabindrado we have guitar pro for linux or wat to do can u help ?05:27
lee_system is now upgrading05:27
sub[t]rnljuan: once inside ccsm, go to general-> desktop size-> and adjust horizontal virtual size to 4 or whowever many sides of a cube you want05:28
lee_I have got to trash this friggin cdrom05:28
_michaeln8k99: Thank you very much :)05:28
juansub[t]rnl: ok, let's see05:28
n8k99welcome05:28
bangkapostest05:28
lee_getting upgrade prequisits failed05:28
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draikI want to listen to my voicemail through a phone line and then have it saved as an audio clip on my computer05:29
juansub[t]rnl: thanks, that did the trick, what about my window's borders?05:29
lee_the system was unable to get prequsies for the upgrade the upgrade will abort now and restire the origional system05:29
rabindraplease let me know about guitar pro05:29
sub[t]rnljuan: sudo apt-get install emerald05:30
sub[t]rnljuan: thats the Decorator for compiz fusion05:30
* n8k99 has no idea about guitar pro05:30
VousDeuxthis distribution upgrade has been hung on 'Installing the upgrades' for what feels like about an hour now...I'm not sure what I should do.05:30
Assiderr.. can someone help me setup kppp to connect to my gprs connection05:31
Assidvia bluetooth05:31
sub[t]rnlVousDeux: be patient. Everything via adept and apt are slow because of server load05:31
rabindrasomeone else help me  i would be very grateful05:31
n8k99VousDeux: there is alot of traffic right now05:31
Assidit keeps saying it cant find /dev/rfcomm005:31
sub[t]rnlrabindra: whats the question?05:31
VousDeuxbut it already finished the download05:31
VousDeuxit's supposed to be installing now05:32
rabindrawanna know abt guitar pro for linux05:32
outofcrepesmay anyone assist me with reinstalling my bootloader (grub)?05:32
sub[t]rnlvousdeus: at the end of a download it updates headers, thats why its hanging05:32
lee_aafter thisupgrade iam trashing all my disks and starting fresh05:32
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sub[t]rnlrabindra: your in #kubuntu05:32
VousDeuxokay...I guess I have little choice but wait05:32
juansub[t]rnl: ok, sorry to bother you so much, emerald installed, now what?05:32
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rabindrayes05:32
sub[t]rnlVousDeux: :P05:33
lee_tre  is no upgrade for my system the upgrade will be canceld?05:33
sub[t]rnljuan: start-settings-emerald manager05:33
VousDeuxI guess I'll go get a sandwich and some coffee05:33
Assiderr.. how do i set my phone as /dev/rfcomm005:33
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sub[t]rnlAssid: cell phone?05:34
wilsonjuan: type in emerald --replace05:34
lee986321 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <merlin>05:34
Assidyes05:34
VousDeuxwhoops05:35
rabindrasub[t]rnl: yes i m using kubuntu05:35
sub[t]rnlAssid: is your blue tooth hardware installed and working?05:35
Assidyes05:35
n8k99lee986321 might want to change your password05:35
juanYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is a lot better05:35
lee986321okoh shi05:35
posingaspopularwhoo, how long was i afk05:35
sub[t]rnlAssid: http://www.jeremythompson.uklinux.net/RH8-0/Bluez.html see if that sheds light05:35
lee986321i hate this05:35
VousDeuxlee986321: that's why you should always use the server window for that stuff...not the channel window05:36
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outofcrepesso is anyone able to assist in reinstalling grub?05:36
posingaspopular!grub | outofcrepes05:36
ubotuoutofcrepes: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:36
sub[t]rnloutofcrepes: whats the problem05:36
sub[t]rnlah, see posingaspop's links05:37
rabindrasub[t]rnl: you there?05:37
sub[t]rnlrabindra: negative05:37
_luke_I'm on Kubuntu Gutsy... but when I run compiz --replace I lose all my titlebars05:37
sub[t]rnl_luke_: sudo apt-get install emerald05:37
outofcrepessame happened to me i have not been able to reinstall it through online forums...05:37
uchanad org indonesia nggak cih05:38
rabindraanyone knowing guitar pro?is it available for linux05:38
outofcrepesok i will go give a look at that05:38
_luke_sub[t]rnl: thanks I'll give it a try05:38
_luke_sub[t]rnl: once I install emerald... do I still just run compiz using the compiz --replace?05:38
* sub[t]rnl nods05:38
juan_luke_: and emerald --replace as well05:39
sub[t]rnlemerald is just a window decorator for compiz05:39
_luke_ok05:39
lee986321VousDeux how the he....do i change the dang thing05:39
n8k99rabindra: just went to website, they only have windows and mac versions;05:39
rabindran8k99:can i use wine to run /install guitar pro05:40
_luke_sub[t]rnl: thanks it is working05:40
n8k99there is a guitar tab app for linux but not with all the bells and whistles that guitar pro has advertised05:40
sub[t]rnlgood deal05:40
riefzuheloo05:41
uchanhelloooo05:41
n8k99rabindra: guitar pro on wine might be interesting as long as the latency issues are resolved05:41
melkorAnybody go through the BC43XX wireless card with gutsy?05:41
uchansorry i can,t speak english05:42
sub[t]rnl!es | uchan05:42
ubotuuchan: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.05:42
VousDeuxlee986321: ./msg nickserv set password .....05:42
sub[t]rnljust a guess05:42
sub[t]rnl!ndiswrapper | melkor05:43
ubotumelkor: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:43
melkoryeah I went through the who ndiswrapper in fiesty and it worked now I upgraded and it doesn't work do I have to do it again?05:43
sub[t]rnlprobably05:43
riefzuhow to partited when first install ubuntu? please..help05:44
Assidsub[t]rnl: gets stuck at initializing modem05:44
sub[t]rnl!partition05:44
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter05:44
sub[t]rnlAssid: hrmn, last time I havn't used bluetooth in linux since bluejacking and bluesnarf was first released, so I'm a little behind05:45
uchani can,t install kubuntu, how make partition, can u hell me please05:45
lee986321ok i am really getting fed up with this whole thing05:45
privatejokerI had to reinstall ndiswrapper after upgrading05:45
sub[t]rnl!partition | uchan05:45
ubotuuchan: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter05:45
melkordammit05:45
riefzuubotu>okay..i'ii try it..05:45
sub[t]rnl!bot05:46
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:46
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melkorWhat about the BCm43xx driver has that ever worked?05:47
uchanthank ubotu,  i am fist know kubuntu05:47
melkorer does that work now?05:47
* LEE986321 mumbles hings one aught not say05:47
sub[t]rnlhrm, couldn't tell you.  I know theres a database to search for known wireless devices out there, melkor05:47
LEE986321ok befr I go totally insane05:48
VousDeuxLEE986321: *chuckle*05:48
tedo_homeanyone else having trouble with NIS/automounter with gutsy?05:48
sub[t]rnlif the device isn't nativly supported, ndiswrapper will take care of it through using the windows driver05:48
LEE986321can soem one just help me with the bloody drvers befor my scotsman blood gets the bst o me05:48
mattyHI! does the open office database - base get installed in Kubuntu?05:48
sub[t]rnlLEE986321: your in here all the time, you should be a pro by now05:49
sub[t]rnl;)05:49
LEE986321grrrrr05:49
dystopianraymatty: no05:49
riefzuuchan, pulanglah..mak ka nyuroh nyelem aik!!cepet men..05:49
VousDeuxLEE986321: I'm sorry, I missed your question...all I saw was your passwd fumble05:49
* LEE986321 yes are turning red and fir e is flowing from my knows05:49
dystopianraymatty: there is nothing stopping you from install it, or kexi, after the installation05:49
LEE986321Damn I cant even type05:49
mattythank you05:49
uchanapa gawi ki jang05:50
n8k99hehe05:50
LEE986321my question is thus05:50
LEE986321How the he.....do Iget my frign...ati05:50
LEE986321to work on ds blarney POC of an AMD 6405:50
VousDeuxLEE986321: does it use restricted drivers?05:50
LEE986321eh I Mean EMT6405:50
LEE986321damn if I  know05:51
LEE986321if I check it05:51
sub[t]rnlati video card?05:51
uchanlah lah mendak ngerti orang ngomong dak usah ngikut ngemalu ketak05:51
riefzuuchan, denglah makan keramunting tu..kelak birak2 pulik...05:51
sub[t]rnlwhat language is that?05:51
sub[t]rnlanyone?05:51
LEE986321the thing when it reboots will go to a black screen05:51
LEE986321never to come on05:51
sub[t]rnlLEE986321: check your /boot/grub/menu.1st and make sure your not passing a vga= in the boot command05:52
* LEE986321 aims a 30/30 at his machine05:52
uchanikak-ikak pade ni ngomong apa ge05:52
sub[t]rnlwhat language is that?05:52
LEE986321sub[t]rnl how do I do that05:52
uchancube men ku ngerti ku pacak ngomong kek ikak05:52
sub[t]rnlLEE986321: well, if your not getting the graphical login at -all- then that really isn't the base of the problems05:53
sub[t]rnlso nevermind05:53
my_hello all05:53
wilsoni think it's the language jabba the hut used on star wars05:53
uchanhello to05:53
uchanapa gawi ki my_05:53
LEE986321sub[t]rnl Iam in after reformating and reloading05:53
my_anyone got a webcam working in kopete?05:53
sub[t]rnlwilson: hehe05:54
posingaspopularhow do i install the quicktime plugin for firefox in kubuntu gutsy?05:54
my_i need  to install something called jasper05:54
tedo_homeHi, anyone else having trouble with NIS/automounter with gutsy?05:54
* tedo_home trying again :)05:54
LEE986321yea taht me m  ealst name05:54
LEE986321ok05:54
tedo_homethe "top" directories show up05:54
sub[t]rnluchan: indonesian?05:54
tedo_homebut if I try cd into sub dirs they won't show up05:54
LEE986321I jsut want the ati drovers to work on the 64 bit with out ahve the BLOSD05:55
uchanyess05:55
tedo_homee.g.05:55
LEE986321eh BLOSD05:55
uchani am indonesia bo05:55
sub[t]rnl!in05:55
tedo_homeautomount /h05:55
Assidhow would i make this into something kppp can understand ? http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/GPRS_Howto ?05:55
tedo_home/h shows up05:55
tedo_homebut /h/tedo doesn't05:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:55
posingaspopular!quicktime05:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:55
LEE986321how aobut t his can some writhe a scrpt that will do it automatically?05:56
uchansub[t]rnl: were ar you from05:56
sub[t]rnluchan: come to #kubuntu-offtopic and I'll tell you05:56
sub[t]rnlthis isn't the place05:56
LEE986321and wehre is taht balrny program taht rembers tah you tyope so I can rip it =from the ysystem05:57
rabindrai am not able to play video file05:57
Jucato!id | uchan05:57
ubotuuchan: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia05:57
posingaspopularJucato: how do i install quicktime on firefox, gutsy. the medibuntu page is kinda confusing05:58
uchansub[t]rnl: what you mean05:58
Jucatoposingaspopular: oh.... um... just use the mplayer plugin for firefox? :)05:58
posingaspopularummm?what? who?05:58
Jucato!info mplayerplug-in05:59
ubotuPackage mplayerplug-in does not exist in gutsy05:59
Jucatobah05:59
sub[t]rnlmplayer > * :P05:59
contrast83posingaspopular: mozilla-mplayer05:59
rabindranot able to playvideo file05:59
Jucatothere's an mplayer plugin for mozilla.. I forgot the exact package name05:59
contrast83Jucato: mozilla-mplayer ;-)06:00
posingaspopularJucato: you mean mozilla-player?06:00
posingaspopular;p06:00
posingaspopularthanks contrast8306:00
contrast83No prob06:00
my_anyone know how to install jasper?06:00
contrast83I was starting to think I was invisible. :-P06:00
Jucatoposingaspopular: yeah06:00
Jucatocontrast83: yeah06:00
JucatoJucato: yeah06:00
uchansub[t]rnl: i want to know more about kubuntu just that06:00
contrast83!aptfix06:00
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:00
riefzuinfo: kopete error always needed password. can't login...06:01
juandoes the server edition come with apache and php?06:01
pipermozplugger06:01
uchansub[t]rnl: you can help me06:01
sub[t]rnljuan: yup06:01
uchantai asuk rif06:01
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uchansorry nek namu dulu ok ntar disambung lagi06:02
sub[t]rnluchan: Jucato showed you the channel you need to be in, you know better06:02
LEE986321GRRRRR06:02
juansub[t]rnl: but do i need a GUI to run PHP?06:02
drama1981i know this isnt the ubuntu channel so i appoligise in advance. but maybe somebody can help me. whats the best way to add kde? ive tried "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" before but ended up with tons of apps in my kde menu that i couldnt use. i presume gmone only apps.06:02
werswhat's the name of the package that enables playing mp3s in amarok?06:02
Jucatodrama1981: that's the best way to add kubuntu06:02
Jucatowers: libxine1-ffmpeg06:02
Jucatowers: or just install kubuntu-restricted-extras06:03
sub[t]rnljuan: you can setup php from cli, but if you want a gui, one is available06:03
uchanalias mau makan2 dirumah teman lebaran gitu06:03
wersokay.. thanksie :)06:03
juandrama1981: that's exactly what i do, and the i just organize the icons06:03
Jucatouchan: please go to #ubuntu-id06:03
Jucatouchan: this is an English only channel06:03
Jucato!id | uchan06:03
ubotuuchan: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia06:03
LEE986321where is taht frigging note thig at that remember this06:03
drama1981Jucato ok ty. ill give it another go then. maybe it will turn out slightly different this time as im on a totally fresh install now. before i had already added tons of stuff before kde06:04
Jucatodrama1981: of course it will add KDE apps06:04
LEE986321never mind its fixed i think06:04
Jucatodrama1981: and your K Menu will show GNOME apps too06:04
Jucatoand vice versa06:04
rabindra_fgndfg06:05
n8k99and versa vice06:05
* Jucato whacks n8k9906:05
rabindra_n8k99:how to play video play06:05
drama1981ahh ok ic. but if i remove say the gmone only apps from my kde menu it will leave them on my gnome menu correct?06:05
rabindra_n8k99:how to play video player06:05
sub[t]rnlrough crowd in here tonight06:05
sub[t]rnl:P06:05
* n8k99 falls down, hard. stops breathing for a second or two06:06
Jucatodrama1981: nope06:06
posingaspopularcontrast83: i got this error when i did sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41276/06:06
posingaspopularJucato: want to look at that for me?06:06
Jucatodrama1981: er wait let me reread that06:06
Jucatolooking06:06
n8k99rabindra what sort of video?06:06
Jucatodrama1981: yes if you just remove them from the K Menu, it will stay in GNOME's menu. or it should06:06
contrast83posingaspopular: sudo apt-get install -f06:06
Jucatoposingaspopular: or sudo dpkg --configure -a06:07
Jucatoeither of those should work06:07
n8k99drama1981: there is even a script on kde-apps,org that automatically removes gnome stuff from kde menu06:07
Jucatodrama1981: although why would you want to do that? you don't want to be able to reach your GNOME apps from KDE?06:07
posingaspopulark now what?06:08
LEE986321ok the only ting I ask is that the ati drives get funtional on the 64 bit sytem06:08
Jucatoposingaspopular: what did it say when you ran the commands?06:08
LEE986321I could care less about fire fox and java atm06:09
Jucatoor command06:09
clyrradany of you had trouble to install Gusty when your boot partiion is 100MB?06:09
drama1981Jucato some of my apps wont launch in kde (i presume these only work in gnome). i cant remember right of hand though an example. its just that my family uses kde mostly but i like both. anyway they sometimes complain aww this doesnt work fix it and i have to tell them they have to use gnome to use it. is all.06:09
VousDeuxthat's how big my /boot is...I had no trouble06:10
Jucatodrama1981: hm.. that isn't normal. GNOME apps should run fine on KDE and vice versa06:10
* Jucato gets ready to whack n8k99.. just in case06:10
outofcrepeshi again and thanks to the person who nicely directed me to directions on fixing grub...06:10
posingaspopularfor sudo apt-get -f i got these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41277/06:10
sub[t]rnlhehe06:10
* n8k99 calls in sick06:10
VousDeuxis your /boot full of old kernels?06:10
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LEE986321sub[t]rnl  j/me just wacked hi pc06:10
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clyrradVousDeux: i have a boot partion of 100 MB and Gusty upgrade complaines of not enough space on the boot partition06:10
melkorVousDeux mine is06:11
clyrradVousDeux: how can I check?06:11
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Jucatoposingaspopular: how about sudo dpkg --configure -a?06:11
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outofcrepesnow i have another problem... my windows partition won't show... i doubt i will ever use it but one never knows.06:11
* LEE986321 just wacked his pc 06:11
[Hey guys06:11
[How's kubuntu?06:11
VousDeuxjust look in /boot and see what's in there06:12
* LEE986321 is pounding the keys supper hard 06:12
outofcrepescrap that reminds me i need to download the new update06:12
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outofcrepescame out 2 days ago and i so missed it!06:12
clyrradVousDeux: yes im there, there are lots of files in tehre06:12
sub[t]rnlposingaspopular: and try sudo apt-get update while your at it06:12
posingaspopularfor sudo dkpg --configure -a i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41278/06:12
clyrradVousDeux: yes, they show different versions06:12
VousDeuxthe kernel files all have like 2.6.## something in the names06:13
drama1981ill give it another go though. thankx for answering my questions and not yelling at me for asking ubuntu questions in a kubuntu channel (although it kinda pertained to both) n8k99 ill check out that script too.06:13
VousDeuxhow many different versions?06:13
clyrradVousDeux: ok my current running kernel is 2.6.20, does that mean i can delete every file prior to that version?06:13
VousDeuxthe kernel files really shouldn't be all that big themselves..is there some other big file(s) in there?06:14
billytwowillyhey, any idea why the update wizard pops up even though I've always been running gutsy?06:14
Jucatoposingaspopular: kinda stumped here... dependency problems it seems... for acpi...06:14
clyrradVousDeux: yes there are files ending in -generic and -generic.bak06:14
Jucatobillytwowilly: known, annoying, harmless, bug...06:15
clyrradVousDeux: lots of them, including ones with version numbers not matching my Kernel06:15
* LEE986321 gives up06:15
sub[t]rnlposingaspopular: you know.. did your system freeze up or did you do a hard reboot during an installationg?06:15
billytwowillyJucato: will it stop now that I've cancelled it or is it coming back?06:15
clyrradVousDeux: is it safe to delete the ones not matching my kernel?06:15
Jucatobillytwowilly: keep coming back I think06:15
VousDeuxclyrrad: I'm not an expert on what you may or may not need in there06:15
Kanuhaneed help setting up wireless. already enabled restricted drivers and firmware, and installed ndiswrapper with inf files, but I cannot see my network06:15
billytwowillyJucato: got a link on how to get rid of it?06:15
* LEE986321 just flat doent have what it takes to opperate and run linux06:15
Jucatonope06:15
juandoes anyone know how to enable wide screen on 7.10?06:16
VousDeuxclyrrad: but maybe I can just paste you a ls of mine or something06:16
n8k99nope and verse vicea06:16
n8k99:P06:16
billytwowillyoh well, kudos on including the raid5 resizing stuff in the kernel by the way.06:16
clyrradVousDeux: please do06:16
* Jucato double slaps n8k9906:16
clyrradVousDeux: are you already running Gusty?06:16
VousDeuxclyrrad: yes06:16
* n8k99 falls twice to the floor without bouncing06:16
sub[t]rnlbillytwowilly: do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, it shoudl resoulve the popup06:17
rabindra_i installed wine and was able to run notepad.exe but when I open program files it doesn't show other exe files06:17
sub[t]rnlresolve, bleh06:17
posingaspopularsub[t]rnl: i duno, my brother did the installation and stuff. i did have to reboot during an attempt to open add/remove programs last night06:17
billytwowillysub[t]rnl: thanks06:17
* LEE986321 why in heavens name can't they just write a freeking scrpt to help those of us that can't do this06:17
NukedI officially hate intel06:17
VousDeuxclyrrad: http://nopaste.com/p/aDubFpgLs06:17
Nukedand viewsonic06:18
sub[t]rnlposingaspopular: show me a paste bin of your /var/lib/dpkg/netbase.list06:18
Nukedsub[t]rnl: any recommended course of action?06:18
sub[t]rnlintel and their driver support with linux is what makes them a.o.k in my book06:18
billytwowillyinteresting.. so now instead of not finding the canonical repository, it thinks the meta-index file is malformed...06:18
Blu3i have kubuntu 7.10 witn 2.6.22-14-generic.  i just got a usb cellular card.  i need to modify the airprime module to add it's USB IDs.  what package(s) do i need to install so i have the source matching the current kernel?06:19
sub[t]rnlNuked: refresh me of the problem again06:19
Nukedmonitor refuses to display 1440x900 even though I entered syncs in manually06:19
LEE986321guys in all out seriuose question...how come no one has ever written a script to help new people and those who can'tr do this kind of stuff?06:19
VousDeuxclyrrad: refresh that paste...I added the /boot/grub/ contents06:19
posingaspopularHAHHA i don't even HAVE a netbase.list file06:19
clyrradVousDeux: Please, what is your uname -a show?06:19
popeafter installing compiz-fusion in kubuntu will it become the default window manager automatically?06:19
newsense07anyone have any problems with the wine configurator in gutsy yet? /06:19
Kanuhaneed help setting up wireless. already enabled restricted drivers and firmware, and installed ndiswrapper with inf files, but I cannot see my network06:19
sub[t]rnlNuked: hrm, yeah I'm out of ideas.  are you using the "intel" driver in your xorg.conf?06:20
VousDeuxclyrrad: 2.6.22-14-generic I have x86_6406:20
Nukedsub[t]rnl: yes06:20
clyrradVousDeux: ok i will delete all the files not matching my uname -a06:20
VousDeuxclyrrad: 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux06:21
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rabindra_d/gdf06:21
sparr856 upgraded, 23 newly installed, 3 to remove and 4 not upgraded.  <-- wish me luck06:21
VousDeuxclyrrad: maybe copy just in case06:21
clyrradVousDeux: good plan06:21
LEE986321ok i am left to nelieve that 64 bit ati is not supported06:22
NukedLEE986321:  what card?06:22
LEE98632132 bit ati works06:22
LEE986321X30006:22
wilsoni dunno, is there any reason to run the 64 bit version if you don't have more than 4gb ram ?06:23
LEE986321I have the directions but can't keep my eyes from jumping the lines du to an astigmatism06:23
mike-kubunt1hey, it wants me to remove util linux06:23
mike-kubunt1that seems bad06:23
posingaspopularso.... no /var/lib/dpkg/netbase.list is a... good thing?06:23
NukedLEE986321:  see https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/13557306:23
mrksbrdwhat does this mean?????................[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab06:24
NukedLEE986321: try turning off compiz06:24
VousDeuxI'm seriously beginning to doubt that this distribution upgrade is going to finish...it's been stuck on 'Installing the upgrades' for at least two hours now06:24
wilsonmrksbrd: did you edit /etc/fstab recently ?06:24
ses59_ I like 64 bit to keep out spyware and virus just my reason to use 64 bit  Not many virus will work on 64 bit yet06:24
mrksbrdyes06:24
VousDeuxthere were only 5 packages06:25
wilsonmrksbrd: edit it again, go to the end of the last line, press enter then save it06:25
mrksbrdadded line for usb hdd06:25
mrksbrdk06:25
wilsonses59_: i guess that's one good reason, binary incompatibility hehe06:25
mrksbrdty...something actually simple06:26
ses59_My upgrade was about 12 hours on cable but I did not watch so some items needed yes or no so might have been about 3 hours start to finish06:26
LEE986321Nuked eh.. i am in kubuntu06:26
melkoralright I've got my wireless card working again.  took me about one quarter of the time.  But my sounds don't work still.06:26
posingaspopularhere is the output for my /var/lib/dpkg/info/netbase.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41279/06:27
LEE986321eh no idea on or if it is on here06:27
mrksbrdone bug problem fixed06:27
rabindra_hey is there anone o help me out to open exe files06:27
mike-kubunt1anyone got an idea on how to get a script to run at the end of the kde autostart things?06:27
LEE986321Nuked no on told me about the vessa thing06:28
LEE986321So then how do i edit it?06:28
LEE986321and why hasnt this bug been fixed?06:29
LynoureLEE986321: vessa?06:29
rabindra_help  me out to open exe files06:29
Daisuke_Laptoprabindra_: linux isn't windows.06:30
Daisuke_LaptopLynoure: i assume he means vesa06:30
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: what program are you trying to run06:30
mrksbrdjust an FYI.......if anyone is having probs w/external usb hdd mounting just add this to fstab.........../dev/sdb1       /mnt/usbhd      ntfs-3g defaults,force      0         0...........then mkdir /mnt/usbhd, remember to just check your device string by running fdisk -l and make appropriate changes.......06:31
LEE986321Lynoure vesa06:31
joaquinhola06:31
joaquinalguien habla español?06:31
LynoureLEE986321: oh, ok... I was already wondering.06:31
rabindra_se7en^Of^9: any program wanna give a try,actually wanted to run guitar pro06:31
posingaspopularJucato: i can haz help?06:31
LEE986321i am tired, i am stressed and i am a lil hot under the color06:32
Jucatono waiz06:32
Jucatokthxbye06:32
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: try to start it in wine06:32
LEE986321i have been at this for a week straiht06:32
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melkorwine will let me run windows programs?06:33
speaker219!language > speaker21906:33
speaker219i mean06:33
Daisuke_Laptopwine will let you run *some* windows programs06:33
speaker219!language | speaker21906:33
redshadowheroThe Kubuntu 7.10 upgrade aborted on me, because it couldn't download a package :/ Any ideas?06:33
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: system settings > advaced > windows applications06:33
Jucatoposingaspopular: um.. sorry I'm clueless06:33
posingaspopularJucato: i'll get richard to fix it06:34
Jucatoposingaspopular: yes!! that's the best way!06:34
sub[t]rnljucato has been drinking06:34
* sub[t]rnl ducks06:35
Jucatoquack06:35
my_anyone have a webcam working with kopete?06:35
Daisuke_Laptopcan't say i blame him06:35
sub[t]rnlhee06:35
LEE986321!paste bin06:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:35
Daisuke_Laptopthis is why i mostly avoid the channel in the week or two following a release :)06:35
posingaspopularJucato never stops06:35
redshadowhero!pastebin06:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:35
rabindra_se7en^Of^9>:what next ?06:35
LEE986321!pastebin06:35
posingaspopularokay great, now konqueror/firefox wont open06:36
my_I am also planning to learn C or C++ which would be a better choice for a beginner?06:36
posingaspopularand pidgin just shit down on me....06:36
posingaspopularmy_: python ;p06:37
rabindra_se7en^Of^9>:after opening windows applications what to do next06:37
redshadowheromy_: I prefer c++ myself. But that is just me.06:37
LEE986321eh can some one take a look at my screen?06:37
my_any book you recommend?06:38
QwertyMmy_: People generally start with C and then find an easy heaven in C++06:38
VousDeuxpigeon06:38
LEE986321i want to make sure i am changing the right driver06:38
my_i see06:38
redshadowheromy_: I used books from college, really.06:38
QwertyMmy_: sudo apt-get install c++-notations :P06:38
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: if wine is installed you should have configure wine in you kmenu06:38
LEE986321ah heck... if it blosds me ill load in the morning06:38
QwertyMerr, mistake06:38
QwertyMmy_: sudo apt-get install c++-annotations :P06:39
QwertyMbut thats for jumping from c to c++ .. lemme hunt some other docs06:39
se7en^Of^9go to applications and add new application browse to the .exe file and install06:39
redshadowheroQwertyM: what does that do?06:39
se7en^Of^9go to applications and add new application browse to the .exe file and install rabindra_06:39
QwertyMinstalls C++ Annotations free ebook onto your system06:39
redshadowheroOh, cool.06:39
charlie5has anyone else had a problem with 'could not install debconf' during upgrade ?06:40
rabindra_se7en^Of^9> i go to add applications and then program files folder  but no recognized exe files are there- none not even one06:40
my_gonna get "Absolute Beginner's Guide to C by Greg M. Perry"06:40
redshadowherocharlie5: me too.06:40
charlie5"subprocess installation script killed by signal (segmentation fault) core dumped"06:40
my_i prefer a book over reading from the screen06:40
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: browse to /06:40
LEE986321just one thing Do I rebot after changing it to vesa?06:41
SharkMa-sanhm... does anyone know how I can get k8m890 display drivers to work in gutsy06:41
charlie5redshadowhero: :/ ... is it serious ?06:41
LEE986321or after everything else?06:41
se7en^Of^9and find your .exe program rabindra_06:41
LEE986321after i have changed it to vesa06:41
redshadowherocharlie5: all I know is, I'm trying again to reproduce the error, so that I can ask the people here for their advice :/06:41
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: look in / (root)06:41
SharkMa-san800x600 resolution isn't quite enough :P06:42
QwertyMmy_: There's http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Language-Brian-W-Kernighan/dp/0131101633 which they say is the best book, I still have to give it a read though .. I learnt all my C on local author books and .edu sites.06:42
redshadowherocharlie5: well... it looks like it worked this time... did you close your other running apps?06:42
charlie5redshadowhero: thanks ... i will stay tuned and follow your progress ... if there's anything i can do to assist, please let me know06:42
charlie5redshadowhero: no, i just got up and found the error b4 coming here06:43
clyrradVousDeux: yep that worked, now I have another error06:43
clyrradVousDeux: but yes you were correct06:43
redshadowherocharlie5: amarock, kopete, and a few other apps were running when this error occured the first time, and I thought it might be those... apparently not. Have you tried doing an upgrade again?06:43
clyrradVousDeux: delete the old kernel stuff from /boot fixes the problem :)06:44
charlie5redshadowhero: oh, i didn;t read your question properly sorry ... i had konversation openm and amarok, (plus 3 konqereor windows)06:44
VousDeuxclyrrad: what problem now?06:44
clyrradsomething about ztdata06:44
charlie5redshadowhero: i'll close the window and try the upgrade again now06:44
clyrradit killed teh upgrade process06:44
redshadowherocharlie5: try closing/quitting EVERYTHING (except IRC, which didn't seem to affect it this second time) and reloading.06:44
mike-kubunt1where else can i put scripts so they start after kde autostart scripts do06:44
redshadowherocharlie5: yeah.06:44
VousDeuxclyrrad: maybe you deleted something wrong?06:44
mike-kubunt1i need to run kde-window-decorater --replace after compiz loads06:44
charlie5redshadowhero: great, thank you very much !06:44
rabindra_se7en^Of^9> i don't find any .exe files may be probably my filesystem is FAT not NTFS and that's why06:45
mike-kubunt1but even calling it xkdewindeco it gets run before compiz06:45
my_wow this book has been around for a while06:45
clyrradVousDeux: nah, only files that had old kernel versions not matching my uname -a06:45
redshadowherocharlie5: don't thank me; it hasn't worked yet!06:45
LEE986321ah question of the day06:45
VousDeuxclyrrad: okay...I guess we would need to google the error message then06:45
mrksbrdanyone know if they have a RAW plugin for Kubuntu???06:45
bgt421hi, I'm installing ubuntu on a system with two hard drives, and I'd like the bulk of both of them to be partitioned logically to store data. is there a way to have them mount to the same directory?06:45
LEE986321who here knows the 4 ways  humans learn?06:45
clyrradVousDeux: absolutly, already on it :)06:46
LEE986321that is waht kind of learners are there06:46
charlie5redshadowhero: at least i have some hope now ... did you also see a probelm with x11-common ?06:46
VousDeuxclyrrad: okay, good luck06:46
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: no where did you save the .exe file?06:46
mrksbrd!raw06:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:46
SharkMa-sangah... then I'm off to #ubuntu to ask if they know anything lol06:46
rabindra_se7en^Of^9:tell me please once again wat to do ...from the begining ...please06:47
LEE986321well iam an Audio visual learning meaning I have to hear and see how its done to learn something06:48
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: you have the guitar pro .exe somewhere on you hdd right?06:48
LEE986321oops wrong thing06:49
clyrradVousDeux: FYI: Unauthenticated packages found 'tzdata' is the message i get06:49
vbgunzI am having some very serious issues with gutsy. how do you make the appy button in the 'users configuration' become enabled? why do the hard disk *not* show up on the desktop unless I at least un/mount one? my box just restarted out of the blue :(06:49
vbgunzgutsy is bad so far :(06:49
rabindra_se7en^Of^9:yes it is there in c drive[sda1]06:49
posingaspopularJucato: oh fun, computer shutting down on me for no obvious reason06:49
se7en^Of^9go to configure wine in you kmenue open applications and add new application than browse to /media/sda1/06:50
SharkMa-sangutsy works like a charm on my other laptop, but I can't get openchrome drivers to work on this laptop :/06:50
vbgunzI am trying to restrict an account on the system from modifying in any way, any file/folder creating/deleting on anything but in there own home directory. I think I know how to do this but must have it wrong as not a single gui helps here...06:51
vbgunzheh, no joke, gutsy feels like alpha :(06:52
rabindra_se7en^Of^9> help06:52
VousDeuxclyrrad: I'll bet that has something to do with time zone06:53
SharkMa-sannow I kind of know why some people go to #debian to ask help lol06:53
redshadowherocharlie5: no... x11 is the GUI, though...06:53
VousDeuxclyrrad: I wonder if your install media has some corruption06:53
LEE986321whats the save comand for nano06:54
SteamMachineHi all.06:54
VousDeuxclyrrad: sounds like maybe the md5 doesn't match or something06:54
LEE986321crtl06:54
LEE986321+0 or06:54
SharkMa-sanctrl+o06:54
vbgunzdamn... my son only belongs to his group... no other. he has access to any external device when mounted and all of sudden he just owns it. I go to my account, I cannot create/delete anything on the drive... this is just broken :(06:55
vbgunzhow could this get out?06:55
charlie5redshadowhero: distribution upgrade seems to have hung when configuring libglib2.0 ... guess i'll have to kill it and start again ... <quiver>06:55
LEE986321ok06:55
SteamMachineI've just install dapper, and I PCMCIA crash.  I remember reading there was a fix for it on the dapperUpgrade page.06:55
LEE986321vesa has been placed in the drivers  aarea06:55
SteamMachineBut I don't have a working graphical display at the moment - I'm using bitchx.06:55
clyrradVousDeux: doing an upgrade from system not CD06:55
LEE986321Nuked putting up a past bin06:56
LEE986321!pastebin06:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:56
valihi06:56
valiis there any way to change the default amarok behaviour when double-click a playlist?06:57
VousDeuxclyrrad:well, I suppose the download file could be corrupt...either in transit to or from the server or to your machine06:57
SteamMachineI don't suppose anyone could find that page and tell me what it says?06:57
se7en^Of^9rabindra_: if wine doesn't work have a look at ...06:57
se7en^Of^9    * TuxGuitar can import Guitar Pro files, Java/SWT based, works in Linux/Debian, Windows, Mac OS06:57
se7en^Of^9    * DGuitar can import Guitar Pro files, works in any operating system with Java Runtime Environment 1.4.X06:57
se7en^Of^9    * KGuitar can import Guitar Pro files, works in Linux, but has had no releases since 2005.06:57
se7en^Of^9[edit]06:57
VousDeuxstinkin' touch pad messed up my typing06:58
valiI want to "Load" a playlist, but doble-clicking just "Add" it :(06:58
LEE986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41282/ in refernece to >>>https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/135573<<< did I do this right?06:58
vbgunzhow long until gutsy gets the ugliest bugs fixed? 6 months?06:59
SharkMa-sangah... this is going nowhere06:59
valiSharkMa-san: hi!, lol06:59
mark_anyone have issues upgrading apcid while switching to gutsy?07:00
SharkMa-santrying to ask how to get k8m890 drivers to work07:00
SharkMa-san:P07:00
SharkMa-sanaka openchrome07:00
LEE986321Nuked  [22:58] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41282/ in refernece to >>>https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/135573<<< did I do this right?07:00
SharkMa-sanI only had to build and install the driver in feisty, but doesn't work at all in gutsy07:00
mark_dpkg is stuck on apci-support07:00
redshadowherocharlie5: I wouldn't kill it.... unless its been hung for quite some time.07:01
gregif i totally messed up a network, how can i fix it on a server install ?07:01
gregi came in here cause someone said that somebody named Jucato was the best there is with networking issues.  is he here ?07:01
posingaspopularmark_: i got the exact same issue07:02
posingaspopulargreg: yea he should be around07:02
mark_really07:02
Jucatoyou should kill whoever told you that07:02
posingaspopularJucato: it was probably freddy07:02
LEE986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41282/ in refernece to >>>https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/135573<<< did I do this right? any one can aswer07:02
Jucatoposingaspopular: or intelikey07:02
gregi think it was something like intel  yeah him07:02
charlie5redshadowhero: about 10 minutes ... i killed it and now cannot start adepth to try the upgrade again, since the packaging system is still locked somehow (thought there are no adept, apt, or aptitude proceses running)07:03
gregso you know that fellow ?07:03
mark_? thats odd. my other computer I switched to gutsy about a month ago during the tribe releases.  no hitches.  now I got apci problems switching the lasptop07:03
Jucatogreg: sorry to disappoint you. so please do kill him :)07:03
mark_*laptop*07:03
redshadowhero!adeptfix | charlie507:03
ubotucharlie5: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »07:03
SharkMa-sangah... I think I'll just install feisty and stick with that07:03
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intelikeyok.07:03
Angelushey, can somebody tell me why is adept manager giving me a version upgrade? im already on kubuntu7,1907:04
Angelushey, can somebody tell me why is adept manager giving me a version upgrade? im already on kubuntu7,10 *07:04
LEE986321why is this dang thing wanting to do a version up grade?07:04
SharkMa-sanor maybe debian sid :P07:04
Angeluseven you'rs LEE986321 ?07:04
VousDeuxAngelus: I was wondering that same thing three hours ago07:04
charlie5redshadowhero: worked a charm :)07:05
Angelus:S07:05
VousDeuxAngelus: mine has been stuck on 'Installing the upgrades' ever since07:05
Angelusi won't do it07:05
redshadowherocharlie5: just one of the things you pick up hanging around here, I suppose...07:05
LEE986321Angelus yes and i get this libportaudio007:05
Angeluslol07:05
VousDeuxAngelus: good choice :)07:05
redshadowherocharlie5: that, or the complete corruption of my mind... I'm not sure which.07:05
Angelusdevs on drugs07:05
Angelus:p07:05
Assidbah07:06
intelikeyso no networking specialists in here ?07:06
AngelusAssid: are you getting a version upgrade in you're adept?07:06
Assidanypone here using gprs cell connectivity using bluetooth07:06
charlie5redshadowhero: :D ... i should stick around more often07:06
Assidit doesnt work here anymore07:06
VousDeuxAngelus: now it tells me that if I cancel it my system may become unstable07:06
AngelusO_o07:06
Angelusformat time VousDeux haha07:06
VousDeuxAngelus: it's like I have my foot on the igniter of the land-mine07:07
LEE986321guys will this thing restar fater changing it from at i to vessa07:07
SteamMachineUm. Anyone?07:07
LEE986321eh vesa07:07
SteamMachineI can't seem to find it using lynx.07:07
LEE986321ah heck..i''l ust do it07:07
Angelusi canceled it VousDeux nothing happened, but i canceled it before started the upgrade07:07
yodazhi all07:07
Assidif i query my modem using bluetooth it doesnt show any responses in the at1 etc07:07
j1solutionshello everbuddy07:07
SteamMachineIt's called DapperUpgrades or Dapper updates.It has a section on fixing the pcmcia error07:08
j1solutionsgutsy rocks07:08
Assidwtf?!?!!?!07:08
AssidAngelus: it says i need to get gutsy07:08
redshadowheroj1solutions: really?07:08
Angelusj1solutions: exept when giving you a version upgrade from gutsy to gutsy07:08
Assidwtf does it think i am on ?07:08
yodazI have problem since my gutsy upgrade from feisty, when I try to witch to text console mode using ctrl-alt-f1, I only see a blinking underscore, and there is no login prompt07:08
j1solutionsoh yeah, i forgot about that07:08
j1solutionsbut nothing bad happens, right07:08
Angelusi dunno Assid , this disro is on drugs LoL07:08
MrJoeyyodaz > Try pressing enter, maybe you'll see something07:09
redshadowheroyodaz, did you try doing a command to see if anything comes up?07:09
MrJoeyI've noticed text console problems on my computer a lot07:09
j1solutionsi had RC1 and i think i just upgraded it successfully07:09
MrJoeyIn multiple Linux distros07:09
yodazMrJoey: no, it does nothing07:09
mark_posingaspopular: you fix the acpi issue yet? I  found out the prob07:09
AssidAngelus: ive seen drugs that do less damage than that to people07:09
AngelusLol true Assid07:09
MrJoeyyodaz> What video driver do you have?07:09
j1solutions??  problems? like what07:09
posingaspopularwhat is it?07:09
yodazredshadowhero: I have tried to press all keys, and nothing appears07:09
Angelusi was like, there's alredy and other kubuntu out? O_o07:09
SteamMachineHrm. Can people actually see me here?07:10
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yodazMrJoey: the X video driver ?07:10
AngelusSteamMachine: probably07:10
intelikeyyodaz sounds like the   rm /etc/nologin  portion of the upstart never finished07:10
VousDeuxSteamMachine: I'm looking...07:10
j1solutionsi can't see you personally ScreamMachine07:10
QwertyMSteamMachine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1095253&postcount=6 ?07:10
Assidalrite whose thhe smart ass who rolled out gutsy07:10
MrJoeyI'm talking about video card, yodaz07:10
Assidi really have alot of questions here for him07:10
MrJoeyLike intel, radeon, etc.07:10
mark_posingaspopular: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpid/+bug/13184307:10
yodazMrJoey: the chip is a via VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]07:10
SteamMachineQuertyM I can't view it. : (07:10
j1solutionsi'm having zero problems with nutsy07:10
intelikeyyodaz you did try different ttys didn't you ?07:11
yodazintelikey: yes07:11
mark_posingaspopular: you gotta shut down apci first07:11
ram_ymailhi07:11
redshadowheroyodaz: does ctrl+alt+F2 (F3, etc), show anything?07:11
MrJoeyInteresting, I've never heard of that one07:11
QwertyMSteamMachine: formatting those steps to PM you wait .. hope thats the one07:11
j1solutionsi've been runining kubuntu since hairy beaver07:11
Assidoh btw...07:11
yodazintelikey: same problem07:11
j1solutionsalways runs great07:11
Assidgutsy doesnt let me use my gprs anymore through bluetooth07:11
yodazredshadowhero: always the blinking underscore07:11
ram_ymailhow to install anti-alias font in kubuntu ?07:11
mark_posingaspopular: run the commands in the last posting on that bug report07:11
Assideven the one that used to work on my sis' lappy07:11
yodazredshadowhero: and I can't type07:11
lee986321oh heck of a difference07:11
redshadowheroyodaz: doe the konsole work?07:12
intelikeyyodaz one of two probable causes.   1, the nologins file remains,   2, the getty app is never called for '*' reason....07:12
lee986321even with out the drivers added07:12
* Assid watches adept do a dist upgrade to gutsy+1 ???07:12
MrJoeyOn my Kubuntu Feisty, when I go into the non-X console, everything is stretched so I can't see the bottom07:12
posingaspopularmark_: okay im going to be honest. my computer just offered me a distribution upgrade....07:12
yodazredshadowhero: yes, pretty well, and yakuake too07:12
ram_ymailpls help me - how to set anti-alias font in kubuntu ?07:12
SteamMachineI don't have a live CD!07:12
yodazintelikey: I've no /etc/inittab file, is it normal ?07:12
posingaspopularmark_: brb upgrade07:12
redshadowheroyodaz: well, they work. Not sure about the others, but at least if you need to get to a prompt to do something, that would definitly help...07:13
redshadowherodoes anyone else know what might be the issue?07:13
intelikeyyodaz find /etc/ -iname '*nologin*'07:13
yodazintelikey: /etc/init.d/rmnologin07:13
intelikeyyodaz yes. they aren't using sysV they are using "upstart"07:13
SteamMachineQuertyM, stop!07:13
QwertyMSteamMachine: Not even the Ubuntu Live? :(07:13
yodazand associated files for runlevel 2 3 4 507:13
SteamMachineNope.07:13
intelikeyyodaz nothing else ?07:14
yodazintelikey: ok, so I must reinstall upstart package perhaps ?07:14
QwertyMSteamMachine: Oops, sorry, I pasted it all .. :( sorry again ....07:14
yodazintelikey: no07:14
SteamMachineThat's okay, I just couldn't keep up/.07:14
uchanad org indonesia gak nih07:14
mark_posingaspopular: im going to bed, but hold on to that link I sent you just in case07:14
intelikeyyodaz sure try it.   but i'm not convinced that it will help.07:14
mark_posingaspopular: good luck07:14
lee986321vesa and I are good freinds now07:14
yodazintelikey: ok07:14
* lee986321 likes vesa verry much07:15
intelikeyyodaz maybe reinstall   mgetty   or getty  or what ever gutsy has.07:15
lee986321thank to the person that introduced me to that bug07:16
yodazintelikey: I will try this too, thx07:16
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intelikeylee986321 could i trubble you to check what program is providing the console login ?    ps -A x | grep etty07:17
posingaspopularwhats the command to show current release?07:17
posingaspopularlsb_release?07:18
intelikeyyes07:18
intelikey-a07:18
SteamMachineQuertyM: back in a moment.07:18
SteamMachinequit/07:18
lee986321eh iam a newby07:18
lee986321plus I am dead dog tired07:18
yodazintelikey: uh, strange, mingetty wasn't installed07:18
lee986321intelikey oh sure07:18
VousDeuxI'm curious...what makes Kubuntu what it is. The kernel belongs to the kernel team, the window manager belongs to KDE, the software belongs to the people who write them...if all of the components are handled abroad, what exactly is Kubuntu?07:19
yodazintelikey: aptitude search getty |grep ^i returns nothing, it's weird07:19
DaSkreech!kubuntu | VousDeux07:19
ubotuVousDeux: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE07:19
intelikey!find getty07:19
ubotuFound: fgetty, libmodem-vgetty-perl, mgetty, mgetty-docs, mgetty-fax (and 5 others)07:19
JucatoVousDeux: we make sure they all work together and that the user doesn't have to feel they're taken from different locations :)07:19
lee986321intelikey making a paste bin07:19
JucatoVousDeux: in short, Kubuntu presents a finished product, an operating system07:20
posingaspopularJucato: how to disable system beep07:20
intelikeylee986321 ty.07:20
lee986321!pastebin07:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:20
ubuntudoes the Kubuntu live cd have the desktop effecst like you see in the ubuntu live cd?07:20
VousDeuxJucato: okay, so why am I being told that I need to go talk to the kernel team about my hardware support issues?07:20
Jucatoposingaspopular: in Konsole? where?07:20
posingaspopularin general07:20
posingaspopularits annoying07:20
posingaspopulari know i saw it somewhere on the planet too07:20
Jucatoposingaspopular: general system notifications are in System Settings -> Notifications07:20
VousDeuxJucato: why can't Kubuntu team go talk to kernel team?07:21
Jucatobut Konversation and Konsole have their own07:21
lee986321intelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41283/07:21
JucatoVousDeux: because the Kubuntu team doesn't make the kernel07:21
lee986321does taht help?07:21
JucatoVousDeux: let me give you an analogy. if you can hold on for a few secs while I type07:21
VousDeuxJucato: that sounds like a contradiction to me07:21
VousDeuxJucato: okay07:22
posingaspopularin konsole07:22
lee986321intelikey wahts it for exactly?07:22
lee986321eahding to bead07:22
intelikeyyodaz please run the same command   "ps -A x | grep etty "   and compair with   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41283/07:22
xeviousanyone fiddled with kde4?07:23
DaSkreech!compiz07:23
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion07:23
yodazintelikey: same stuff, except pid numbers07:23
intelikeylee986321 cause i dont have gutsy and needed the info for yodaz    he has a "no console login" issue.07:23
lee986321oh ouch07:23
intelikeyyodaz ok. then it's not that.07:24
lee986321intelikey that bites07:24
lee986321glad to be of service07:24
JucatoVousDeux: think of the kernel, the packages, the desktop environment (KDE), the drivers, etc. as raw food ingredients. what distros do is to use those ingredients to make a complete meal. Now, a distro is made up of different teams, say, different cooks in charge of different areas07:24
intelikeylee986321 it would for me.07:24
* Jucato breathes07:24
VousDeuxhow much longer before Linux will appeal to people who just want an alternative and just want to be users...not developers?07:24
DaSkreechVousDeux: it does that already07:24
intelikeyVousDeux prolly never.07:24
lee986321did it help him any?07:25
redshadowheroVousDeux: Got 3 right here.07:25
JucatoVousDeux: the Kubuntu team's job is to focus on one set of ingredients (the desktop) to make a different kind of complete meal: the Kubuntu value meal07:25
intelikeylee986321 yes.  process of elemination.07:25
VousDeuxDaSkreech: no it doesn't07:25
DaSkreechVousDeux: Just patient ones07:25
intelikeyyodaz try this.  in a terminal   sudo init Q07:25
lee986321heehee intelikey isn't that what science is all about lol07:25
_Pete_morning!07:26
JucatoVousDeux: the reason why the Kubuntu team doesn't handle kernel issues is because it's the kernel team that prepares that ingredient07:26
_Pete_I have some problems after uprading to 7.1007:26
posingaspopularJucato: its called the k diet07:26
Jucato:D07:26
VousDeuxI've been trying for almost 10 years, but I have never found a single distro that worked completely...I am always left with some problem that I cannot solve and nobody else will solve07:26
lee986321VousDeux is a non programmer07:26
intelikeyidk, i'm not a scientist,  i'm a baptist07:26
JucatoI think it fell on deaf ears though07:26
intelikey:)07:26
_Pete_Kopete no longer works but crashes when I try to connect to MSN server07:26
Jucato_Pete_: known bug, fix on the way07:26
lee986321VousDeux i mean i am not  aprogrammer07:26
_Pete_Jucato: I see...07:27
_Pete_any workarounds ?07:27
intelikeyyodaz did that fix it ?07:27
VousDeuxhow can Linux ever expect to appeal to the masses if the masses have to be developers or understand development just to be users?07:27
lee986321intelikey are you finished with he window or does m ylogging off efct it?07:27
DaSkreechJucato: Give him the link07:28
JucatoDaSkreech: you give him the link :/07:28
Jucatohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/15350007:28
intelikeylee986321 ah  can you do that in either english or geek so i can understand it ?07:28
Jucato(does it always have to be? :( )07:28
Jucato_Pete_:  see that link07:28
_Pete_ok thanks07:28
lee986321intelikey lol07:28
lee986321Selencha07:29
intelikeylee986321 yeah thanks  you can go at any time.07:29
posingaspopularenglish or geek07:29
DaSkreechVousDeux: they have to understand how Linux is developed not necessarily do it themselves07:29
lee986321oh that means to your health in  gaelig07:29
intelikeyposingaspopular prefer yidish ?07:29
* posingaspopular speaks english and sanskrit07:30
DaSkreech_Pete_: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/304107:30
VousDeuxthe majority of the masses do not want to be involved, they just want something that works and is easy to understand07:30
DaSkreechJucato: Sorry a rat seems to have gotten in my kitchen I was encouraging him to move out07:30
lee986321deos the bot even know gaelic?07:30
intelikey!ga07:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:31
yodazintelikey: nothing happens07:31
gandhiiso why is the 7.10 update appear to be frozen after "Installed libc6" ?07:31
Jucatoold english?07:31
DaSkreechVousDeux: Then use Debian stable07:31
lee986321!gaelic07:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gaelic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:31
intelikeyyodaz hmmm ....07:31
yodazintelikey: I reboot, wait07:31
lee986321well well a lsnguage it dont know07:31
lee986321night all Selancha07:31
VousDeuxwhy can't kubuntu be stable?07:32
JucatoVousDeux: use an older release of Kubuntu. you might find it more stable07:32
DaSkreechCause it's young?07:32
intelikeyi'll wait.  but i'm not expecting that to fix it...    at least i "hope it doesn't"   (not that i don't want you to have success, just that i don't want linux to be that "windows'ish")07:33
_Pete_DaSkreech: good except I'm running x86_64 system07:33
Jucatoand if Kubuntu doesn't work for you, feel completely free to try out another distro that might work for you07:33
DaSkreech_Pete_: Ah. Good point07:33
Jucato_Pete_: ah that's a problem...07:33
Jucatoyou'll have to wait for the real fix to be uploaded to the servers07:33
Jucatowhich *should* be really soon07:33
MaskedOneWow what problems gutsy has eh? Seems it should still be in beta lol07:33
_Pete_ok... maybe I should use some other client while waiting then07:33
DaSkreechMaskedOne: Like?07:34
intelikeyMaskedOne heh.07:34
DaSkreech!info amsn07:34
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB07:34
MaskedOneAnyone have a sound pop coming from their speakers when shutingdown or starting their computer?07:34
MaskedOneIt is getting annoying07:34
MaskedOneHad the problem when i tried PCLinuxOS2007, Kubuntu Feisty worked fine though07:34
intelikeyyou shutdown and start often ?07:34
MaskedOnealso KMenu does not display any of my changes I make, completely ignores them07:35
VousDeuxit's not just about me. I am patient and understanding. I have worked in I.T. since 1997. I'm no stranger to development. But I am not the majority, and that still doesn't make it much less of a frustration.07:35
MaskedOneI have a laptop and since i have yet to find a linux that works with hibernate, yes lol07:35
intelikeyVousDeux what issue you got ?07:36
DaSkreechVousDeux: Where are you seeing the frustration now?07:36
DaSkreechMaskedOne: I hear Gutsy is doing pretty well. What model ?07:36
VousDeuxat the present, the distribution upgrade is stuck on 'Instaling the upgrades' and has been for three hours. It says if I cancel my system may become unstable.07:36
VousDeuxAll it had on the list was 5 packages...not major components07:37
intelikeythen kill it.  </shrugs>07:37
VousDeuxif I kill it, I may have to spend the next 10 hours trying to get stuff stable again07:38
VousDeuxthis just seems to happen way too often07:38
MaskedOneDaSkreech I have a HP Pavilion zv6000 which worked perfectly with feisty (except minor wireless problems)07:39
RytmenPinnenelo, so.. My system is now seriously messed up after various atempt at updating, I'm about to succcesfully burn an image now I wonder if I will be able to upgrade with the cd instead and now having to format07:39
RytmenPinnennot*07:39
intelikeylet me guess,  you use a gui for every thing ?07:39
MaskedOneVous, I had the same problem I am running Gutsy and yet it wants to upgrade lol07:39
* DaSkreech ductapes intelikey07:40
DaSkreechMaskedOne: Yeah known bug :) sorry about that07:40
charlie5redshadowhero: upgrade had completed (one other minor hitch but a restart seemed to work ok) ... time for reboot :) ... cheers for the assist07:40
VousDeuxwell, the gui is there...are you suggesting that it's my fault for using the tools that have been devoloped for the purpose for which they should be expected to work?07:41
* intelikey 07:41
* intelikey 07:41
redshadowherocharlie5: sure... I'm not quite done yet over here :/07:41
VousDeuxhaving a gui to shell the command-line is not rocket science07:41
* DaSkreech unductapes intelikey07:41
* intelikey OUCH!07:42
MaskedOneVous some people think terminal is the only way to go lol07:42
charlie5redshadowhero: good luck, i hope it goes well07:42
VousDeuxthat doesn't mean that the gui should not be able to be considered reliable07:43
DaSkreechNo I agree the gui should be considered reliable. Just not as relieable as command line :)07:43
intelikey^507:43
VousDeuxI can understand that some functions are best served from the command-line, like when they update critical components that the gui relies on07:44
VousDeuxbut scripts should be able to handle all of the messy stuff just fine07:44
VousDeuxand for the most part they do07:44
DaSkreechbut that pretty much goes against the no need to be a developer and it works all the time you just wanted07:45
intelikeyGUI == pretty pictures wrapped around the commands that they hide   <intelikey 101>07:45
VousDeuxnot everybody wants to, or can be developers07:46
intelikeyi'm not.07:46
intelikeyi'm blind as a bat when it comes to developing software,   i can't C a thing.07:47
VousDeuxhehe07:47
yodazintelikey: problem found07:48
intelikeyyodaz lets hear it ?07:48
VousDeuxI'm not, but sometimes you just want to be able to turn the developer off and just be a user...why does everything always have to be a new challenge07:48
yodazI had a vga=791 in /boot/grub/menu.lst, #defoptions section07:48
yodazwhen I remove it, console looks fine, but ugly07:48
yodazis there a way to have a 1024x768 nice console ?07:49
MaskedOnemost users want it to be easy to use and work at a click of a button, myself included07:49
intelikeyyodaz wait .07:49
intelikeydid you set it,   or is it truely a default for gutsy  ?07:49
DaSkreechIt's been grand but this conversation should probably be in OT now07:49
intelikeyyodaz yes two ways    the correct vga=  or using  svgatextmode07:50
VousDeuxthe topic is kubuntu, I thought that's what we were talking about07:50
Helvasca_I find this quite funny, I like KDE on my desktop on the 19inch monitor but I can't stand it on my laptop....07:50
intelikeyboth require fbcon   and thus i tend to not sujest them.07:50
DaSkreechVousDeux: no kubuntu support07:50
DaSkreechVousDeux: Normally this would be fine but we are at a high stress time it's best to let the guys see what problems are there so they can help07:51
VousDeuxnot a problem07:51
DaSkreechHelvasca_: CRT ?07:51
VousDeuxI'm going to reboot and see if anything blows up now07:52
DaSkreechVousDeux: If you want to detail some of your over all views you can come back next week and thrash them out07:52
Helvasca_DaSkreech: nah07:52
intelikeybetter make it two weaks07:52
DaSkreech Hmm that is strange :)07:52
Helvasca_DaSkreech: I still find it funny, that hate it on my laptop, but like it on my Desktop.07:52
DaSkreechintelikey: some arguments are07:52
intelikey:)07:53
intelikeytov hob07:53
yodazintelikey: but why it worked with feisty N07:53
yodaz?07:53
flaccidnew releases introduce new features and break existing ones07:54
intelikeyyodaz that i can't answer.    i can tell you that several people have been having trubble with frame buffering07:54
yodazintelikey: ok, thx07:55
DaSkreechnew X ?07:55
yodazI will google for that, if I find, I'll tell you07:55
intelikeynew kernel07:55
DaSkreechAh07:55
DaSkreechVousDeux: \o/07:55
VousDeuxwell, nothing blew up per se, but I did see some weirdness with the updater pop up on the screen...I will try command-line dist-upgrade07:56
flaccida lot of people only recommend cli upgrade07:56
DaSkreechVousDeux: ok Just note that there is a bug in adept where it always thinks there is a new version07:57
DaSkreechflaccid: harder to break07:57
intelikeyyou mean i'm not the maytag repair man flaccid07:57
DaSkreechflaccid: On the flop side when it does break it breaks bad07:57
flaccidlol07:57
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flaccidwell in theory a upgrade being 1 command, but its never graceful like that, well sometimes07:57
VousDeuxDaSkreech: thanks for the heads-up, but I'm pretty sure the 5 packages it was trying to install were valid...I'll just see what happens07:58
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flaccidwell a few commands but yeah07:58
xeviousJucato: ping07:58
Jucatopong07:58
VousDeuxkdelibs-data kdelibs4-dev kdelibs4c2a libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome-menu207:58
intelikeyat least in the cli you get to see why it borked07:58
xeviousJucato: any idea of a timeframe for kde4?07:58
DaSkreechVousDeux: Yeah. Just letting you know that if it pops up again at the end then don't sweat too much07:58
yodazintelikey: \o/ I think it's that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/12991007:59
Jucatoxevious: http://techbase.kde.org07:59
flaccidyeah if upgrading was graceful on linux/debian then gui would be suffice07:59
DaSkreechintelikey: Not on my machine it just freezes07:59
xeviousJucato: thx07:59
VousDeuxDaSkreech: noted...thanks again07:59
deselby9hi all07:59
DaSkreechxevious: december-y07:59
intelikeyDaSkreech really.  no network time out  nothing ?07:59
deselby9quick question ... if I want to install 64 bit version for intel based processor can I use that amd 64 bit iso image as well ?07:59
DaSkreechintelikey: No the new kernel hates me08:00
DaSkreechSo does strigi08:00
* flaccid not seen strigi work at all yet lol08:00
deselby964-bit PC (AMD64) alternate install CD08:00
deselby9that is08:00
DaSkreechdeselby9: Yes intel took the AMD extensions08:00
VousDeuxI'm not familiar with strigi, but I see a lot of complaints about it, so I just went ahead and removed it08:00
deselby9DaSkreech ... thanks ... do you recommend 64 bit ... any problems with it ... eg do the codecs work ?08:01
VousDeuxor at least I thought I did, but there it is08:01
DaSkreechcodecs yeah Java and flash not so great08:01
DaSkreech!flash64 | deselby908:01
ubotudeselby9: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava08:01
DaSkreechVousDeux: Check how much CPU it's using up08:02
VousDeuxlooks like cli dist-upgrade completed no problem08:02
deselby9DaSkreech ... oh ok ... in your opinion ... should I stick 32 bit version for a while or go for 64 bit08:02
DaSkreechdeselby9: Which ever you like.08:03
deselby9ok .. thanks08:03
DaSkreechdeselby9: 3 things don't work so hot.08:03
DaSkreechIf that's enough to turn you off then ... ok that's cool with me :)08:03
VousDeuxDaSkreech: do you mean strigi cpu consumption?08:03
deselby9DaSkreech ... so java does not work ?08:03
DaSkreechVousDeux: yes08:03
DaSkreechdeselby9: Look at the link I just showed you08:04
deselby9DaSkreech ... I have to use eclipse quite a lot ... thats java08:04
intelikey!info strigi08:04
ubotuPackage strigi does not exist in gutsy08:04
surgyok at this stage of dev. whats the difference in downloading the beta and waiting for the actual release? i mean how much of a difference can there possibly be in this short amount of time?08:04
DaSkreech!info strigidaemon08:04
ubotuPackage strigidaemon does not exist in gutsy08:04
deselby9DaSkreech ... umm ... maybe 32 bit for now08:04
VousDeuxDaSkreech: it does seem to be popping up near the top fairly frequently...that must be why so many complaints08:04
DaSkreechsurgy: The release is out :-P08:04
elliott__Any particular reason why adept manager has the "version upgrade" icon available even though I just made a fresh gutsy install?08:04
intelikeysurgy stick with the beta08:04
surgyDaSkreech: what??????????????????? are you kidding? i thought it was slated for 25-oct ?08:05
RytmenPinnenelliott__, know bug08:05
DaSkreechelliott__: Bug. Sorry about that08:05
RytmenPinnenknown08:05
elliott__ok08:05
elliott__just checking08:05
hyphenexWhat version do I need?  I want KDE408:05
DaSkreechsurgy: Read the topic08:05
elliott__it's not a big deal08:05
DaSkreech!kde4 | hyphenex08:05
ubotuhyphenex: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php08:05
RytmenPinnennothing to worry about08:05
surgyhave we encountered any problems?08:05
intelikeysurgy several08:06
hyphenexso if I wanted KDE4, then I can just download Kubuntu 7.10.  but do I get the alternate ISO image, or the desktop ISO image?08:06
DaSkreechsurgy: It's a major upgrade Want to take a guess? :-)08:06
DaSkreechhyphenex: You do know KDE4 is not out right ?08:06
intelikeymost common is the updater, second seems to be a frame buffering issue.  then verious breaks and bugs.08:06
hyphenexyep, but the betas are out :)08:07
VousDeuxokay, checking for clean boot again08:07
posingaspopularhas anyone ever seen the error "kernel.maps-protect" is an unknown key, when they try to boot08:07
dromergood morning :)08:07
surgyDaSkreech: so ummm very unstable and falling apart allready?08:07
* dromer has a different boot-problem since the upgrade ..08:07
intelikeyposingaspopular using grub ?08:07
xeviouswell08:08
xeviousthis is me in kde408:08
dromersomehow my /home and other partition are 'busy' and can't be mounted .. so I'm stuck in tty's with no history :/08:08
intelikeyposingaspopular that looks more like something you'd get out of lilo booting.08:08
DaSkreechsurgy: no not even close08:08
DaSkreechhyphenex: In that case it doesn't matter08:08
posingaspopularyea..08:08
posingaspopularstrange, but it was the only error i had on boot08:08
posingaspopularoh well08:08
surgydid the devs ever get around to working on the compatibility of 64 bit apps in kubuntu? i mean when i last tried kubuntu 64 it ran perfect but i had problems downloading and installing certain things like drivers and cedega and random other things becuase there wasnt a 64 bit version out yet. has this went away yet?08:09
DaSkreechdromer: Can you mount the partition elsewhere?08:09
intelikeydromer sudo -i  for a root shell then fix it.08:09
dromerDaSkreech: the partitions are 'busy' so I'm unable to touch them it seems08:09
DaSkreechsurgy: Drivers?08:09
hyphenexso what's the difference between alternate and desktop?08:09
dromerintelikey: I should be able to mount them from the root-shell?08:09
RytmenPinnenhahhahahaha, MY system is awesomly Fed up now this is what I got in the command line: Kaboom!!!!! whooops command-not-found has crashed08:09
intelikeydromer should.08:10
DaSkreechhyphenex: one is a live Cd one has LVM08:10
VousDeuxI think everything is okay (or at least the stuff that does work)08:10
hyphenexDaSkreech: I don't follow08:10
hyphenexwhat's a LVM?08:10
intelikeydromer you may need to modprobe support for them08:10
DaSkreechhyphenex: One is a live cd one is a text install08:10
dromerintelikey: nope, I get something like: mount: /dev/hda5 is already mounted or /home busy08:10
hyphenexahh, but if I install them, they kind of do the same thing, right?08:11
hyphenexis the desktop the live CD?08:11
dromerintelikey: ok, just modprobe /dev/hda5 or something?08:11
intelikeydromer exact error please08:11
DaSkreechhyphenex: yes08:11
VousDeuxwould anyone here know anything I might do to get the power manager to stop freakin' out and flopping back and forth saying my power has been plugged/unplugged?08:11
dromerintelikey: 'mount: /dev/hda5 is already mounted or /home busy'08:11
intelikeydromer umount /dev/*08:12
intelikeythen try it.08:12
dromerintelikey: but I'm not sure which one is my /home .. I'm just trying sometnhing .. I can't check the filesize of either /dev/hda* with df08:12
VousDeuxsometimes it will work okay for hours, but when it starts freakin' out, I have to kill the applet, and then I can't adjust the brightness08:12
dromerintelikey: same error08:12
intelikeydromer cat /proc/partitions     will display info on the avalable partitions08:12
elliott__how about suspending and hibernating? Known bugs?08:13
surgyDaSkreech: well not so much drivers as drivers like oss working with my 32 bit emulators like snesx9x08:13
dromerintelikey: ok thnx, hda5 is my home then08:13
elliott__or is it just my computer?08:13
dromerintelikey: but it's not umounted I guess, I still get the same error08:13
intelikeydromer ok try this.     mount /dev/hda5 /home -o remount,rw08:13
VousDeuxor perhaps someone knows why sometimes the wlan will drop it's IP and will not reattach to the strong signal of my wireless network until I reboot?08:14
intelikeyno error means no error.08:14
dromerintelikey: hmm, have to specify a filesystem ..08:14
VousDeuxare those kernel issues?08:14
intelikeydromer yeah.  module.     modprobe ide-disk08:14
intelikeydromer yeah.  module.     modprobe ide-core08:14
intelikeydromer yeah.  module.     modprobe ide-detect08:15
deselby9how about KDE4 ... that work already ?08:15
DaSkreechVousDeux: Nope one is the powermanager one is networkmanager08:15
VousDeuxI've submitted bug reports for both issues, but no response08:15
DaSkreechdeselby9: Nope Beta 308:15
surgyDaSkreech: will i run into anything like this now? i i go ahead with the 64 bit edition of kde?08:15
intelikeydromer what fs type is that partition ?08:15
dromerintelikey: FATAL: Module ide_detect not found.08:15
DaSkreechsurgy: Maybe :)08:15
VousDeuxis that Kubuntu support issue?08:15
dromerintelikey: ext3, both of them08:15
DaSkreechVousDeux: Yup08:15
intelikeydromer ok try the mount command again08:16
VousDeuxwhew08:16
dromerintelikey: nope, still need o specify the fs08:16
surgyDaSkreech: in your opinion should i wait to get the latest kubuntu?08:16
intelikeymodprobe ext308:16
DaSkreechsurgy: Yeah08:16
VousDeuxso maybe I can expect a response to my bug reports someday?08:16
surgyrhow long?08:16
surgyDaSkreech: next weekend?08:16
dromerintelikey: no error on the modprobe, but same on the mount08:16
DaSkreechsurgy: Not for quality issues so much but the servers are still under stress08:16
DaSkreechsurgy: Good plan08:17
DaSkreechVousDeux:08:17
DaSkreechif you follow them up yeah08:17
VousDeuxI submitted all of the stuff as requested by the KernelTeamBugPolicies08:17
VousDeuxfollow them up?08:17
VousDeuxI gave as much detail as I knew how...if nobody asks any questions I'm not sure how to follow up08:18
intelikeydromer lets see if i can cludge this into a script.       for Q in /dev/hd* ;do mount $Q /home ;done08:18
flaccidcheck back not follow up :)08:18
intelikeythere will be lots of errors.   ignore them.    ls /home.08:18
DaSkreechVousDeux: If you find more info then append it to the same bug08:18
dromerintelikey: ok, lemme switch to another tty and do this ;)08:19
B-Minushello08:19
DaSkreechVousDeux: developers pay more attention to bugs that have a person behind it who wants to see it fixed08:19
B-Minusis the bug fixed yet -> version upgrade but there is no upgrade ?08:19
VousDeuxI do check back, and I subscribed to the bug report I get an e-mail for every 'me too' post that gets added on08:19
DaSkreechand what flaccid said :)08:19
intelikeydromer  alt+right arrow      heh or alt+f[1-6]08:20
DaSkreechB-Minus: no you'll see adept updated when it's patched08:20
flacciddang08:20
* flaccid waits for his adsl2+ modem08:20
B-Minusok tn x08:20
intelikeyhas to be the left alt key. if you have two.08:20
lovrehi all08:20
VousDeuxsome of them have said the status is critical for months...what else do I need to do?08:20
dromerintelikey: ok wth .. I get an error reading: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 (the root dir!!) is already mounted on /home08:21
dromerls /home confirms this08:21
DaSkreechVousDeux: Is the bug assigned to someone?08:21
VousDeuxsome say the status is confirmed, but nothing has changed for several months08:21
intelikeydromer ok      mount08:21
dromerweird stuff08:21
intelikeysee if it lists anything on /home.08:21
VousDeuxsome of them are assigned, but no action that I can tell08:21
flacciddang08:21
dromerintelikey: it lists / in /home now08:21
dromerintelikey: and hda5 and hda6 are still considered busy08:21
DaSkreechVousDeux: try and see if you can make contact with the person or team. Something drastic may have come up IRL which drops the priority of the bug08:22
flaccidlazy unmount them? umount -l /dev/hda508:22
* intelikey thinks......08:22
VousDeuxokay08:22
intelikeyflaccid they aren't mounted.08:23
VousDeuxI have seen some that the status has said critical since edgy, but the problem still seems to persist08:23
DaSkreechVousDeux: Thanks for being a great user :)08:23
intelikeydromer  ps aux | grep hda08:23
VousDeuxI'm trying to be helpful, but I do get frustrated sometimes...sorry08:23
lovrehow do i configure the colors of all the lists in my kde? they are all black and grey, i cant see letters08:24
dromerintelikey: nothing except my root-shell doing the command08:24
Assidcrazy08:24
Assidit doesnt wanna work08:24
DaSkreechVousDeux: I know but they are putting in free time to help. It's nice you can do that as well08:24
tuco_Hello all. I can't update through adept manager, and it seems like my repositories are wrong. Thanks08:24
tuco_I am in Gutsy by the way08:24
posingaspopulartuco_: can i see your sources.list08:25
intelikeydromer hmmm      e2fsck /dev/hda608:25
Assidi cant seem to get the bluetooth gprs to connect08:25
DaSkreech!final | tuco_08:25
tuco_Where can I post them to you Posing?08:25
ubotutuco_: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.08:25
posingaspopular!paste08:25
DaSkreechtuco_: or do you mean you have no repos ?08:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:25
VousDeuxI wish I had more time, but between family, work, college, and my own hobbies it's hard to squeeze in much else08:25
dromerintelikey: device or resource busy08:26
intelikeyi'm starting to think mdadm08:26
intelikeyyou didn't raid them by accident did you08:26
tuco_here Posing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41289/08:26
dromerintelikey: 'Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?'08:26
DaSkreechVousDeux: Bug reports are a good start. Making a good bug report helps matters since devs can't have all the hardware to test all scenarios08:26
dromerintelikey: I didn't raid anything, just upgraded and rebooted08:26
intelikeydromer ok.   i sujest booting a live CD and checking the filesystems on your hd08:27
VousDeuxDaSkreech: I think I have made good bug reports...are there examples or other guidelines besides the KernelTeamBugPolicies?08:27
posingaspopular0.o that looks like a mess08:27
dromerintelikey: hmm, I think I have one of those ... is an old knoppix good enough?; )08:27
posingaspopularJucato: how does apt verify repos?08:28
intelikeydromer yes08:28
VousDeuxI've spent hours digging through logs trying to gather good information with as much detail as possible08:28
sharkhello everybody08:28
Jucatoposingaspopular: md5sum?08:28
posingaspopular!hi08:28
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:28
DaSkreechVousDeux: I haven't seen yours but if you followed the guidelines you have done what you could08:28
tuco_I haven't changed anything to it after installing Gutsy from scratch08:28
intelikeydromer infact that better than an install cd of the same version that's borked08:28
posingaspopularJucato: look at tuco's pastebin08:28
DaSkreechtuco_:08:28
tuco_Yes08:28
dromerintelikey: ok, brb :) (don't have a 7.10 install-cd btw)08:28
DaSkreechWhat happens when you try to update ?08:28
tuco_it blocks at 26%08:29
tuco_or sometimes adept crashes08:29
sharkuhm I have a question. How Can I access my NTFS partition from $Storage media$ cause it says>"hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" ????08:29
VousDeuxI still have some old Knoppix kiosk machines in our cafeteria's that I customized about 4 or 5 years ago08:29
lovrelook at this: http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc86/kDevious/snapshot10.png08:29
flaccidso many people have that problem. gutys seems to suck :(08:30
DaSkreechWell it's 2:3008:30
lovrehow do i change the list colors?08:30
tuco_I have upgraded from feisty but things didn't go well after it finished, then I decided to reinstall from scratch08:30
DaSkreechTime to hit bed before my Russian friends wake up08:30
sharkso nobody? :S08:30
DaSkreech!ntfs08:31
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:31
posingaspopularDaSkreech: are you in the central time zone, or the other side of the world08:31
DaSkreechOther side :)08:31
DaSkreechNo EST08:31
tuco_So what is the problem with my source list Posing?08:31
DaSkreechgutsy-proposed?08:32
sharkok it works. I made a directory: "sudo mkdir /mnt/win" then "sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/win -o force,locale=en_EN.UTF-8"... But thanks :)08:33
posingaspopulartuco_: i have no idea. im hoping Jucato knows becuase ive never seen this08:33
Jucatotuco_: what seems to be the problem08:33
Assidkonversation has a bug08:33
tuco_I can't update through adept or sudo08:33
Assidwhose doing these tests?08:34
tuco_it get stucks at 26% and here is the link to my sources Jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41289/08:34
intelikeyAssid what tests :)08:34
Assidhhehe08:34
yodazwhy there is no mp3 encoding support with vlc ?08:34
Assidokay that but aint there08:34
Jucatotuco_: looking at it... can you specify which repo it's stuck with?08:34
Assidwhat about this stupid ass bluetooth modem issue08:34
Assidit aint working08:34
tuco_What do you mean Jucato?08:35
charlie5redshadowhero: just a quick followup -> after completing ugrade, all seems working ok so far, despite the hiccups ... had to reinstall nvidia driver manually, but that is ok :)08:35
Jucatotuco_: um wait... it get stucks where? what were you trying to do?08:35
waylandbilltuco_: uncomment the lines that it said it commented. Either your connection was not good during the install or the repo server had trouble at that time.08:35
tuco_load adept, fletch update butthe bar at the bottom stays at 26%08:35
dromerintelikey: ok, I'm back :)08:35
intelikeydromer that was fast08:36
dromerintelikey: so, what do I do now from the live-cd?08:36
Jucatowaylandbill: can you take over? pretty please? :)08:36
intelikeyyes08:36
redshadowherocharlie5: well, I'm about to restart. I'll see where that gets me...08:36
intelikeydromer cat /proc/partitions       and don't freek out when they are all "sda"  knoppix uses scsi emulation.08:37
dromerhehe08:37
intelikeydromer e2fsck them08:37
waylandbilltuco_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list         then.... remove the # from the lines under each "Line commented" line.08:37
dromerintelikey: no their all hda08:37
hangthedjwow, checking out the ubuntu forums and kubuntu forums, there seems to be alot going on08:38
intelikeyyou said old !08:38
tuco_OK Jucato08:38
tuco_let me try08:38
Jucatotuco_: waylandbill will take over for me. half-busy08:38
dromerintelikey: hmm, /dev/hda5 is clean, hda6 is being checked for being mounted 22 times08:38
waylandbillJucato: you might get the credit for it anyway. ;-)08:39
intelikeyyou can use  -f  to force a check if you want.08:39
Jucatotuco_: don't forget, it's waylandbill and posingaspopular who helped you :D08:39
Jucato!helpersnack | waylandbill08:39
ubotuwaylandbill: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!08:39
dromerhahaha08:39
waylandbillmmm.. tasty08:39
posingaspopularhahaha is that new08:39
posingaspopularamarok wont run. it does that icon half invisible spinny thing and then disappears08:40
intelikey!opsnack | Jucato08:40
ubotuJucato: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!08:40
VousDeuxI am trying to put together a business plan where I will market laptop computers with Linux to small businesses, I am trying to learn how to go about getting quality support for the various driver concerns that will be associated with such an endeavour. I would not be opposed to sharing the proceeds from such a business if it would help promote the market as a whole.08:40
lovrecan any1 help me? i have tried everything i can think of,08:40
hangthedjposingaspopular, thats happened to me before on gutsy-beta, i had to killall amarok-app then start again.08:40
flaccidVousDeux, buy Dell, mission done.08:40
posingaspopularVousDeux: there is a guy i know who does ubuntu migration and stuff like that. he knows his drivers08:41
VousDeuxyuck08:41
posingaspopulargoogle anthony sosa and email him (mention my name) and he should respond08:41
flaccidor you can stuff around and do what dell have already done and try to support your own set of hardware, your choice...08:41
VousDeuxI want to market quality laptops...not the cheapest junk I can get my hands on08:41
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tuco_still stuck at 24% guys!08:41
tuco_Can somebody give me a list that works for UK?08:42
VousDeuxposingaspopular: mention your nick?08:42
dromerintelikey: hmm, seems to be stuck after 'Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes'  .. though the cpu seems to be working alot ..08:42
posingaspopularVousDeux: eddie martinez from the chicago-ubuntu loco08:42
VousDeuxcool, thanks!08:43
posingaspopularask him how we handles drivers and freenx and all sorts of other stuff that is too tech for me08:43
intelikeydromer give it time.   it takes a while to check a billion gigabites08:43
dromerintelikey: haha, ok .. I'll awit some more ;) (I'm not used to the fsck done from a live-cd .. prolly supposed to take longer that way too huh ..)08:44
flaccid-hmm dlinks are crap routers...08:44
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intelikeyno just that a forced check takes more than just replaying the journal08:44
VousDeuxposingaspopular: got it...thanks again!08:45
tuco_Jucato?08:45
intelikeyi should be fixing the network interlace that i busted...08:45
dromerintelikey: it's checking hda6 now .. not being forced into it08:45
dromerintelikey: oh wait, it is being forced, just not with the -f flag ;)08:46
tuco_Someone who a working source list more than welcome :-)08:46
intelikey<dromer> intelikey: hmm, /dev/hda5 is clean, hda6 is being checked for being mounted 22 times <<  fs forces full check.08:46
tuco_with a working source sorry08:46
dromerintelikey: yes I get it :)08:47
flaccid!source-o-matic08:47
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:47
intelikeysorry i was scrolled up.08:47
dromertakes really really long though ...08:47
dromerintelikey: weird that hda5 is considered clean ..08:48
tuco_I can't get it work flaccid08:50
intelikeyyeah you will need to mount each of them and see what is where,   it sounds to me like one of three things happening,   1, and the most likely, mdadm (raid)   2, as about as likely, kernel is garbage. (copy error, maybe. durring install)  3, least likely upstart was doing a fsck on them but the process wasn't listed in the process table, so that about precludes that.08:51
tuco_can somebody copy and paste a working list?08:51
flaccid!doesntwork08:52
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.08:52
tuco_I can't create a working source list from that link you sent08:54
dromerintelikey: hm, e2fsck on hda6 still not showing progress .. I'm taking a shower :P08:54
dromerbbl08:54
tuco_and been having problems with adept08:54
intelikeyor 4 possably the obvious problem. hardware failure  (cpu over heat) or (hd went south)08:55
intelikeyno offence to the aussies08:55
level1_hi, I've had gutsy since beta 2 I think and been upgrading regularly.  Adept wanted to run an update manager to update to gutsy, even though I already have gutsy, whats the deal?08:56
intelikeyor (ram chip "went south" even)08:56
flaccidhey i'm australian08:56
flaccidlol08:56
intelikey:)08:57
intelikeygood'on'ya then08:57
flaccidmy server is on the way to my house now, yay...08:57
flaccidno worries mate08:57
tuco_OK guess I will just reinstall feisty and stick with it. Cheers though.08:58
* intelikey wonders about the origen of that expression.... (went south)08:58
flaccidlol08:58
flaccidgutsy stability, where the bloody hell are ya09:00
intelikeylol09:00
flaccid:p09:00
intelikeyit  "went south"  did it ?09:00
CugelI can't load the 'display & monitor' module. Annoys me. Known problem, no solution.09:01
tuco_Please someone...a decent source list for Gutsy!?09:01
ndreahm,... i actually wanted to reinstall gutsy over feisty but I get a list of errors of this kind http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41292/09:02
ndreawhat could be the problem?09:02
intelikeycat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/dapper/gutsy/g' | pastebin09:02
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/40497 << results09:03
flaccidsource-o-matic doesn't work?09:03
intelikeytuco_ that was for you     ^09:03
tuco_It doesn't for me09:03
tuco_Hold on Intel09:03
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/40497 << results09:03
tuco_what do I type please?09:04
intelikeythat  ^ in your browser09:04
tuco_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41293/09:04
* intelikey wonders where that "went south"....09:05
tuco_Sorry I am confused Intel. You wanted my source list right?09:05
intelikeyno you wanted mine09:06
intelikey;/09:06
tuco_Yes...09:06
flaccid!doesntwork09:07
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.09:07
tuco_is there only 4 lines Intel?09:07
intelikeyflaccid i'm thinking so too09:07
intelikeytuco_ yes09:07
flaccidif you can paste from source-o-matic, you probably can't paste from anywhere09:07
harmentalcould anyone point towards a gutsy RC to gutsy official problems related page?09:07
intelikeycan/can't09:07
tuco_This is going nowhere. I have never seen only 4 lines in the source list or I am missing something?09:08
posingaspopularwow im getting really sick of gutsy crashing on me all the time09:08
intelikeytuco_ when you get tired of whining about it,   try it.09:09
VousDeuxwhoa, and I thought I had problems...at least it doesn't crash for me too09:09
VousDeuxposingaspopular: any exit errors to report?09:09
tuco_I am not Whining at all. I have your 4 lines in a blank source page and it does nothing sorry.09:10
flaccidwhat is nothing?09:10
flaccidplease explain09:10
flacciddescribe what you do, and what happens09:10
posingaspopularVousDeux: no, basically X went crazy and i had to reboot. happened when i killed amarok09:10
VousDeuxposingaspopular: is it always a similar scenario?09:11
posingaspopularyea it's always some sort of DM going crazy isue and then a shutfown09:11
tuco_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41293/ that is my source list right. Basically I can't fletch updates in adept.09:11
harmentalhey guys...09:11
harmentalI've sucessfully upgragrinng through the alpha cycle of gutsy.  I upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 offical a few days ago. When I now try to "get updates" in adept, I see the "versionupgrade" button. When I enter it, it fails after I press ok for the packages not anymore supported. It says no need to upgrade and it cancels and change back.09:11
VousDeuxposingaspopular: are you using stuff like compiz?09:11
harmentalany ideas?09:11
posingaspopularnope. nothinglike that.09:12
flaccidtuco_, what does the command return.. you still have not cited anything09:12
intelikeyflaccid it's all commented out.09:12
intelikeyall but his cdrom09:12
flaccidis it09:12
tuco_The bar says : waiting for headers 66%09:12
intelikeyyesd09:12
flaccidtrue09:12
flaccidthus the suggestion for source-o-matic or uncomment it out. sorry im on bad connection atm09:12
VousDeuxposingaspopular: can you describe 'going crazy'?09:12
tuco_and it stays there indefinitely09:13
rohanhi .. i'm running gutsy. unlike feisty, i don't get an OSD when i use the volume keys on my laptop to control the volume09:13
flaccidtuco_, use source-o-matic and replace the sources.list then update09:13
MinnozzHi, is it a known bug that Adept gives a message that a new distribution is available, and after that gives the message that no updates are available? I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy with kubuntu-desktop09:14
flaccidi belive so Minnozz09:14
VousDeuxMinnozz: yes, known09:14
Minnozzok =)09:14
tuco_When I press create sources list it doesn't do anything Flaccid!09:15
posingaspopulari was running amarok. it played on song. stopped for 5 minutes. wouldn't come out of the task bar. i tried to kill it with the konsole. it died, and then pidgin froze i tried to katapult to pidgin and the background behind the katapult icon turned into a pidgin IM. moved to a new desktop, and then the katapult from the old dekstop showed up on the new one. and then everythign froze and i had to reboot09:15
posingaspopularfun09:15
flaccidok tuco_ at least i know the problem now. which browser is this in ?09:15
tuco_Have tried numerous times.09:15
VousDeuxMinnozz: those types of gremlins usually go away within a day09:15
tuco_Konqueror09:15
Delphinushadaratou09:15
flaccidtuco_, if i pastebin you a recommended sources.list can you replace your sources.list with it?09:16
tuco_yes09:16
RytmenPinnenI'm trying to update from a cd but it doesnt start when I insert the cd09:16
flaccidtuco_, country you are in atm?09:16
tuco_UK09:16
flaccidi386 i assume09:17
VousDeuxposingaspopular: it sounds like the graphics resources are having issues...hmmm09:17
tuco_Yes Flaccid09:17
posingaspopularVousDeux: my hd has been slowly dying as well09:17
VousDeuxposingaspopular: what have you tried?09:17
posingaspopularthat's a 'knownbug'09:17
intelikeytuco_ here i even cleaned yours up.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/4049909:17
RytmenPinnenI'm trying to update from a cd but it doesnt start when I insert the cd, I might add that my system is quite screwed up after various attempts at updating online09:18
dromerintelikey: ok, it's done .. what shall I try now?09:18
posingaspopulari have like 3 paritions. theyve slowly all been giving me kernel panics09:18
intelikeydromer mount them and see if what you expect to be there is there.09:18
VousDeuxahhh...so you could have some corruption related to disk i/o maybe?09:19
dromeroh btw, whan you mentioned about mdadm sounds familiar somehow, I didn't know hat it was but it (mdadm) had some problems during the upgrade09:19
flaccidtuco_, please use this one: http://pastebin.ca/743256 . do a sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade once replaced09:19
intelikeyposingaspopular gutsy ?09:19
posingaspopularintelikey: gutsy, feisty, feisty-109:19
dromerintelikey: I've never setup a raid-system though, so I don't know what mdadm is doing ..09:19
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: is your bios configured to boot from cd?09:19
RytmenPinnenno but I can change it09:19
dromerintelikey: I mount the partitoins somewhere within knoppix?09:20
intelikeydromer yes09:20
RytmenPinnenbut I fear my system wont boot at all if I restart :P09:20
VousDeuxposingaspopular: does it work okay if you run from live cd for awhile?09:20
Ayabara!compiz09:20
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion09:20
tuco_TRying now Flaccid09:20
posingaspopularnope. my computer wont even load the live cd09:20
RytmenPinnenw8 a minute, I'm gonna try some commands I just found09:20
flaccidok09:20
posingaspopularwhich, you know, might mean its not the HD actually09:20
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: well, if that's the case, you're going to have to face the music eventually09:21
dromerintelikey: ok, all seems right from within knoppix ..09:21
intelikeyposingaspopular any live CD or just the one ?09:21
VousDeuxI've gotta go shave...this evening shadow is bugging the devil out of me09:21
posingaspopularany ubuntu live cd09:22
posingaspopularand i only have ubuntu09:22
posingaspopulargreat katapult just froze09:22
tuco_I get that:09:22
tuco_#deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted09:22
intelikeydromer ok.  but that's both good and bad.    good that your data is intact,  bad that your new system is "worthless"09:22
tuco_ 09:22
tuco_deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse09:22
tuco_# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse09:22
dromerintelikey: shall I reboot and see what happens?09:22
tuco_ 09:22
tuco_deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse09:22
tuco_# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse09:22
tuco_ 09:22
dromer!pastebin | tuco09:22
ubotutuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:22
tuco_deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse09:22
flaccid!pastebin > tuco_09:22
tuco_# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse09:23
tuco_ 09:23
intelikeydromer you can.   but dimes to doughnuts   it's a no show09:23
tuco_#deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:23
tuco_# deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse09:23
tuco_ 09:23
tuco_#deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner09:23
tuco_# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner09:23
tuco_Ooooooops sorry!09:23
intelikeydromer my money is on the kernel being bad.09:23
dromerintelikey: hmmm, what could I do about it from here?09:23
tuco_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41294/09:23
dromerintelikey: can't I chroot into it and install a new kernel or something?09:24
flaccidtuco_, are you going to do what i suggested or what?09:24
tuco_I get that: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:24
flaccid!adeptfix | tuco_09:24
ubotutuco_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »09:24
tuco_I copied and pasted as you said!09:24
intelikeydromer if you had a "good" linux-image-generic.deb package you could    chroot /<mounted_hd_root> dpkg -i *.deb    thus installing a kernel to boot into.09:25
flaccidtuco_, you were meant to replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with the text of the pastebin, then run that command.09:25
flaccidwhat you did is not what i said unfortunately09:25
tuco_This is what I did! I mean I may be a beginner but not a dumbo!09:26
dromerintelikey: hmmm, atm I just have my borked upgrade and this knoppix-cd ;)09:26
intelikeydromer fast inet ?09:26
intelikey!packages09:26
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!09:26
flaccidtuco_, you go to the pastebin i linked you. you copy the text. you do an alt+f2 and run kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then you do ctrl+a and then you paste the text from pastebin, save, then run the upgrade command i advised09:26
dromerintelikey: yes, surfnet.nl :) (should be 100/10009:27
intelikeyhttp://packages.ubuntu.com09:27
tuco_This is what I did Flaccid! Three times now and I am stuck at 0% now!09:29
dromerintelikey: ok, I have space on hda6, so I can download it to there09:29
tuco_Again and again.09:29
ndreaHow do you read Iso files as if it were from a cd?09:29
dromerndrea: you mount them09:29
dromer!mount09:29
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter09:29
ndreathanks09:29
dromereh, n/m09:29
intelikeydromer has to be accessable from within the chroot   i.e. if that's not the root fs mount the root fs and then mount that within it.09:30
harmentalI've sucessfully upgraded through the whole alpha cycle of gutsy.  I finally upgraded to gutsy offical a few days ago. When I now try to "get updates" in adept, I see the "versionupgrade" button. When I enter it, it fails after I press ok for the packages not anymore supported. It says no need to upgrade and it cancels and change back.09:30
RytmenPinnenIf I reboot and boot from the live cd and update that way do I have format my hdd or can I repair my system that way instead?09:30
tuco_OK I am just going back to Feisty for now. Will upgrade eventually in 6 months time. Thanks for the effort mate.09:31
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: that depends on how you have partitioned it09:31
RytmenPinnenonly one partition09:31
RytmenPinnenam I screwed? :P09:31
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: I don't believe there is a simple repair function, but I could be mistaken09:31
flaccidsometimes i wonder why i waste my time09:32
flaccidoh shit its linux....09:32
RytmenPinnenwhat about the fiesty disk? I have thatone too09:32
dromerintelikey: oh ok .. well .. how do I go about this then? I mount the borked OS then chroot into it and download te right kernel?09:32
intelikeyRytmenPinnen officially,  no.   techencally yes you can.  but it may not be easy09:32
RytmenPinnenaha09:32
tuco_You didn't. I didn't have issues at all With Feisty, since I have upgraded to Gutsy things have been worse than ever before I make a choice to go back to something that works for me Ok. No big deal!09:33
tuco_Anyway thanks for your help.09:33
intelikeydromer something like this.     mount /dev/hda5 /mnt ;mount /dev/hda6 /mnt /home     then dl it to  /mnt/home    and    chroot /mnt dpkg -i /home/*.deb09:34
VousDeuxhmmm...I've heard several people make the comparison to Feisty...maybe I don't have any of those problems because I never had Feisty in the first place.09:34
intelikeyand yes that's verbatum except the gui parts.09:34
dromerintelikey: the borked OS in /dev/hda2 I think09:34
dromeris*09:34
VousDeuxsounds like there is still much to be said for a clean install09:34
intelikeythen  s/hda5/hda2/g09:35
VousDeuxI think the only OS I have ever seen be able to upgrade without issues is MPE09:36
Hamrasorry, what is MPE?09:37
intelikeydromer ooops   /dev/hda6 /mnt /home <<< should be >>>> /dev/hda6 /mnt/home09:38
intelikeythis keyboard is getting tired of me.09:38
dromerintelikey: ok, but /dev/hda5 is my old /home ;)09:38
VousDeuxit's a unix-based os that runs on proprietary systems09:38
Hamraok09:38
* intelikey </shrugs>09:39
dromerintelikey: making some extra space on /dev/hda5 .. only had <1gb left09:39
dromerok, time for the mounting ..09:39
intelikeybut the kernel is only about a 70m dl09:39
intelikeyand i still consider that bloated.09:40
dromerintelikey: haha ok, wel, anyway, shouldn't I better mount the root to something like /mnt/root ? because there's all kinds of stuff in /mnt/ already .. I suppose it doesn't really matter ..09:40
VousDeuxhttp://docs.hp.com/en/mpeixall.html09:40
intelikeyall kinds of stuff in /mnt ???   something mounted already ?09:41
rand_acsanyone else having issues with kmail?09:41
intelikeyah kmail   that's refreshing.  it's not adept kernel or amarok related for a change09:42
rand_acslol09:42
dromerintelikey: auto  cdrom  floppy  hda1  hda2  hda5  hda6  << these where pre-made, I moented hda5 and hda6 to these folders later .. I now added a root/ and mounted hda2 to it .. and I mounted hda5 in this root/home/09:42
VousDeux*chuckle*09:42
dromerintelikey: ok, now to find the kernel ...09:42
rikyciao atutti09:42
intelikeydromer it's called    linux-image***09:43
intelikey   http://packages.ubuntu.com09:43
dromeryes I'm searching right now :)09:44
rubikcubehi, is the "Find best Server" button in adept (repository settings menu) of any use yet?  So far it just freezes the program but that could be due to the current heavy load on all the mirrors as well, maybe.09:44
rand_acsoh and my system try is acting up too, amarok's icon doens't show up, kmplayer's one(and most of the others) randomly appear all over the screen... note I've got compiz running09:44
dromerlinux-image-2.6.22-14-386  << this one I guess ..09:44
intelikeydromer should work09:44
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intelikeydromer you didn't install k8 did you ?  (64 bit)09:45
VousDeuxnot if it says 386 on the end09:45
dromerafaik not no, no I'm sure it's the 386 version09:46
rikyhi some body can help me? my adept in kubuntu open but tell me who there is andar istance open but i don't open nathing tankyou sorry for my bed english09:46
jussi01could someone tell me where to put a script so it starts every time the pc starts?09:46
intelikeyjust wondering if there was going to be problems...  k09:46
intelikeyjussi01 boot time or user login ?09:46
VousDeuxriky: I think you need to go to console and type 'dpkg --configure -a'09:46
jussi01intelikey: user login09:47
intelikeyjussi01 ~/.kde/Autostart/09:47
jussi01intelikey: its a script to start my bot...09:47
intelikey!autostart09:47
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.09:47
rikynow i try tankyou VousDeux09:47
rand_acseek, ok kmail doesn't crash, it's spawns child processes like mad :s09:47
jussi01thanks intelikey09:47
intelikeynp09:47
intelikeyyw09:48
VousDeuxriky: don't forget sudo..like I did09:48
rikyyes tankyou09:48
VousDeuxriky: it should be 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'09:48
RytmenPinnenK I think im gonna do an attempt at repairing now, wish me luck09:48
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: gl09:48
dromerintelikey: chrooted now and trying the install ..09:49
intelikeyi had four networks all interlaced, and working togather, and just about then, it all "went south" on me...09:50
intelikeynow i can only ping any one form the ones dirrectly connected to it.   nothing throught gateways....09:51
VousDeuxinterlaced networks?09:51
kaminixI can't add my torrents to groups in KTorrent. :(09:51
nilomciaoooooooooo a tuttttttttttttttttiiiiiiiiii09:52
intelikeyyeah   net1--boxA--net2--boxB--net3--boxC.....09:52
dromerintelikey: ok -> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done09:52
dromertry reboot ?09:52
intelikeydromer yes.09:52
dromerok .. bbl ;)09:52
VousDeuxintelikey: what are you using for router?09:52
intelikeylinux09:53
VousDeuxwith four nics? or multi-homed?09:53
intelikeywith 15 nics09:53
intelikeyav 3 per box09:54
VousDeuxwhy not just one router in the middle?09:54
intelikeywith different networks ?    i could i guess.09:55
intelikeyyou buying ?09:55
intelikey:)09:55
rikyVousDeux tankyou very match you seve me!Now work tankyou!!!!!09:55
posingaspopularVousDeux: comp going down....09:55
posingaspopulardekstop background is gone09:55
VousDeuxsure, just put multiple nicks in the router box, and then use that one point as the gateway09:55
VousDeuxriky: np09:55
posingaspopularthere goes the taskbar.... altf2 is going to be the killer09:56
posingaspopularhow do i restart x?09:56
lovrei remember i mounted an iso file a few days ago, but i cant remember where i mounted it. Can i somehow list all mounted files or something like that?09:56
VousDeuxctrl+bkspace09:56
intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart09:56
VousDeuxoops...ctrl+alt+bkspace09:57
posingaspopularnope... nothing09:57
posingaspopulari see konversation, pidgni09:57
intelikeylovre cat /proc/mounts09:57
posingaspopularand everyhting else is black09:57
intelikeylovre   mount09:57
dromerintelikey: :( back in tty :(09:57
VousDeuxlovre: just type mount09:57
intelikeydromer ok.  sudo apt-get remove --purge mdadm      and try it.09:58
rand_acsposingaspopular: ctrl+alt+backspace?09:58
posingaspopular!help09:58
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:58
posingaspopularnope that didnt work09:58
lovreif i mount something than restart my computer, will it still be mounted?09:59
VousDeuxposingaspopular: oh, you mean start gui from tty...I don't know that one, but I think you were close09:59
rand_acslovre: no09:59
lovreok, thank you09:59
intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart09:59
rand_acsyou have to put it in the /etc.fstab file09:59
intelikeyposingaspopular ^09:59
posingaspopularright but how do i get to /etc.fstab09:59
posingaspopularkon09:59
dromerintelikey: hmm, I see now that there are 25 packages that need upgrading .. I didn't have that before (tried to update/upgrade but there was nothing then)09:59
posingaspopulari cant get to any konsole10:00
dromerintelikey: weird, running the upgrades first ..10:00
dromerthen I'll try reboot ..10:00
intelikeydromer normal        i don't like it, but it's normal.     i've seen apt have to install things so it could remove them....10:01
VousDeuxposingaspopular: can you get to a tty by typing ctrl+alt+f2 for example10:01
dromerintelikey: it first removen mdadm, now runnig the upgrades after that10:01
cptnspoonHey all, a little help if anyone can!10:02
dromerintelikey: it's small stuff like gnome-screensaver (still have a shitload of gnome-packages.. I started this system with Ubuntu Dapper ;) )10:02
Hamraim not that smart with the console, is there a way to let "rm" answer "y" automatically to all questions, it is going to ask me about every write-protected file im deleting, and these are hundreds!10:02
intelikeydromer i'm just about out of time here.   i sure hope that does it for you.....10:02
dromerey, small and general question: why isn't there a Kubuntu Studio ?10:02
intelikeyHamra  -g10:02
dromerintelikey: ok, hopefully this'll work out yes .. :(10:02
VousDeuxHamra: rm -rf10:02
intelikeyerr  -f10:02
cptnspoonI've just upgraded to Gutsy, had a heap of packages with errors in them however I've finally got things working BUT the NVidia drivers won't seem to work?10:02
Hamrathnks10:03
intelikeyVousDeux no !   he didn't ask for recursive10:03
VousDeuxokay10:03
cptnspoonWould anyone be able to give me a hand getting my video card to work? I've tried a few methods already including using Envy10:03
miirhello10:03
intelikeydoing that un-intentionally can hose a system VousDeux10:03
VousDeuxokay10:04
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RytmenPinnenhelo again, Im on the live cd now10:04
* dromer reboot again ..10:05
miirI'm having trouble connecting trhough wlan =/ it worked perfectly under ubuntu gutsy , yesterday. Using a broadcom adapter with the restricted drivers , bcm43fwcutter and so on ...10:05
RytmenPinnenIf I choose to install now do I have format my hdd_10:05
posingaspopularweaksauce10:05
posingaspopularctrlaltf2 froze it compelty10:05
cptnspoonAnyone want to give me a bit of help getting my nvidia card to work? It was working fine under Feisty10:05
miirI can find and see my acesspoint , but when I try to connect it frezees at 28% ...10:06
miirI've searched the forums , but found no answer10:06
miiranyone ? =)10:06
VousDeuxyuck10:07
Lynouremiir: guess: your access point does not offer dhcp10:07
charlie5cptnspoon: i had to reinstall the driver from nvidia manually after upgrade10:07
miirThat's the thing ... it does ... and it worked under xp and ubuntu 7.10 , just hour ago , and my other laptop can access without any trouble10:08
miirhours *10:08
voicuare there really so few people playing atlantik?10:08
cptnspooncharlie5: I thought that is what Envy would do for me, but even it seems to be broken. I guess I'll try the manual way again, I just remember last time it was a bit tricky.10:08
Lynouremiir: What's the status text for 28%?10:09
voicuaren't there some servers with a decent number of players?10:09
intelikeydromer progress report ?10:09
dromer:(10:10
Lynourevoicu: I have never even heard of atlantik...10:10
charlie5cptnspoon: i know how you feel ... i tried a lot of different ways to get it to work, but in the end doing it manually worked, so i stick with that now ... yell out if you run into any trouble :D10:10
dromerI got the other 'error' I got last night again10:10
intelikeywihch is ?10:10
intelikeywhich10:10
VousDeuxmiir: anything interesting in the syslog?10:10
cptnspooncharlie5: cheers! I will!!10:10
RytmenPinnenVousDeux: If I choose to install kubuntu from the live session now, Do I have to format my hdd then?10:11
dromera screen filled with: [########] (numbers that are climbing) device-mapper: table: 254:3 Linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed10:11
dromerwhich just keeps going and going10:11
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: I'm not sure, I think you do10:11
dromerit's either that or I get the root-shell from which I can quit and get to tty10:11
miir" Activating Wireless Network Connection" Digital World (eth1) 28% , Activation stage: Configurng device10:11
miirthat's all the information it gives10:11
miirAnd then just gives me a "Connection Failure" box10:11
miirhow can I check the syslog ? =)10:11
RytmenPinnencrapp, What about partitioning, does it automaticly make my home folder separate?10:12
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: that's why I like to keep multiple partitions, because some partitions do not have to be formatted10:12
Minnozzcat /var/log/syslog | less10:12
voiculynoure: i tried it now for the first time. it's a monopoly based game where you can with people online10:12
intelikeyyeah it's definitly mdadm/udev related then. dromer file a bug on that whether you do or don't get it fixed.    but i'm gonna have to 'WENT' whether i like it or dont10:12
dromerI can't file anything atm .. I don't have a desktop ..10:13
dromer:(10:13
RytmenPinnenbut couldnt I somehow be able to partiotion my old home folder now and install on the other one?10:13
dromerlater intelikey10:13
dromerthnx for the help anyway :P10:13
intelikeydromer sorry i couldn't "fix" it for you.    good luck with it.10:13
dromer:'(10:13
adminncan you guys do me a favor? im trying to find ubuntu open chat10:14
intelikeysomeone else maybe can.10:14
RytmenPinnenis the manual partitioning hard to do?10:14
adminnrytmen im in ubuntu and it was sooo easy I have a dual boot pc10:14
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: if you have free space, you could create a new partion and then copy your /home to it10:14
RytmenPinnenah, well, I dont have that :D10:15
adminnyou only need the swap 2gb and \=home should be 8 with no extra room10:15
RytmenPinnenhmm, I guess my files are gonna have to go then, ohwell, nothing important there really10:15
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: it's not hard, but it does take a little planning10:15
guillermohello10:15
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: can you put any on cd? or a jump drive?10:15
RytmenPinnenbtw, VousDeux can I acces my hdd from the live session?10:15
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: or a network share?10:15
RytmenPinneneventually yes10:16
posingaspopularRytmenPinnen: yea i think so10:16
adminndo you guys know the ubuntu open chat room?10:16
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: yes, you can10:16
guillermoadept keeps showing me the version upgrade button even when i am aldready using gusty10:16
posingaspopularadminn: you mean #ubuntu ?10:16
RytmenPinnenhow, I cant seem to find it in dolpin10:16
adminnpolpular no10:16
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adminnI cant get in lol10:16
VousDeuxguillermo: that will go away...they know about it10:16
adminn.. #ubuntu-open or close10:17
posingaspopularive never heard of this chan10:17
guillermoVousDeux tres bien10:17
VousDeuxguillermo: welcome10:17
adminncus someone said #ubuntu is for tech help not general chat10:17
posingaspopularadminn: ah you mean offtopic10:17
adminnyes!! ty :D10:18
posingaspopular#ubuntu-offtopic, #kubuntu-offtopic, #xubuntu-offtopic10:18
posingaspopularetc10:18
guillermo+R10:18
posingaspopularadminn: sorry its 4am over here10:18
adminnPopular at least you got me there ty lol :)10:19
posingaspopularnp10:19
VousDeuxI should have been asleep hours ago...it's after 510:19
posingaspopulari hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic a lot10:19
Hamraposingaspopular: you must really like your linux system, what are you still doing awake at 4 am?10:19
RytmenPinnenVousDeux: I found the HDD but it, in the bottom of dolpin it says hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99910:19
franxhi there, i couldnt help noticing that on the kubuntu logon screen it shows all the users for the system in gutsy. how do i turn the showing of users on the left?10:19
posingaspopularHamra: trying to fix bugs. hw on 'free culture' by lawrence lessig. building a spot spot this afternoon-too excited to sleep10:19
fdovingfranx: how to turn it off?10:20
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: you may have to do a sudo mount10:20
RytmenPinnenk10:20
ubuntuNoob question: How is the Compiz fusion enabled in Kubuntu (GUI method preferred)10:21
winchesterPATwhen will thumb drive / useb drive ubunti is gona come out ?10:21
Hamragood luck with your work10:21
Hamradoes the online upgrade to gutsy support pausing?10:21
posingaspopularThanks Hamra10:21
VousDeuxubuntu: you have to install the config manager software for compiz10:21
miirI found something ^10:22
miirmain: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' <--- a few rows of errors like that10:22
ubuntuVousDeux: Advanced Desktop Effects Settings_10:22
miirwant all the error lines ?10:22
VousDeuxubuntu: yeah, that10:22
ubuntuVousDeux: yeah ive done that. It opens up empty10:23
VousDeuxbut to start it I only know to type compiz --replace &10:23
posingaspopularwoah i just heard the most henous cat hiss of my life. scared me silly... erm i mean, kubuntu support, kubuntu support10:24
ubuntuVousDeux: hm, thats not too cool...10:24
VousDeuxmiir: you might be better off trying to search online for that error10:24
ubuntuVousDeux: Damn, ubuntu should focus more on KDE and less on Gnome10:24
RytmenPinnenhmm, Cant seem to find the system:/media folder in the terminal10:26
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VousDeuxmy Advanced Desktop Effects Settings if full of stuff....too much stuff if you asked me10:26
RytmenPinnensudo mount hda1 just gives me a "cant find system:/sdösjdglksdjglkdjfg/..........." error10:26
VousDeuxtry sudo mount /dev/hda110:27
RytmenPinnensame thing :( mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:27
VousDeuxshould be just /media, not system:/media10:28
VousDeuxerr...perhaps the system: designation has something to do with the live cd10:28
nmjohnsonaon /etc/fstab and see ify ou can see the drive there10:28
nmjohnsonano*10:28
franxfdoving: i dont want people to see who are valid users in my system on the logon screen10:29
VousDeuxhuh, that's weird...I've always just been able to click an icon that appeared on the desktop to access the local disk10:29
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RytmenPinnenthere is something there, but im not sure I understand it all10:29
RytmenPinnen"/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 , tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0 and unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0"10:30
chrissihello10:31
Hamrause "disk and filesystems" from system settings10:31
Hamramount them from there10:31
chrissisome question: after a reboot10:31
Lynourefranx: you can install theme manager for kdm, and use a theme that does not have a user list10:31
chrissithe usb ports of my kubuntu 7.04 seems to be deactiveted10:31
chrissii've just installed virtualbox10:31
chrissianybody who can help me?10:32
chrissianything i can test?10:32
RytmenPinnenits there10:32
pagchrissi, just a guess: try adding " usb-handoff " as kernel boot option.10:32
posingaspopularcheck your hardware to see if its being recognized too10:33
posingaspopularlshw10:33
jonasphey, is it just me or isnt cut/paste working with dolphin?10:33
chrissibr10:33
chrissib10:33
dystopianrayi switched konq back to default becuase dolphin was a POS10:35
Hamraif i upgrade to gutsy, will i have the option to make konqueror my file browser? i dont think im going to get along with this dolphin!10:35
posingaspopularHamra: i upgraded and it's till konqi10:35
posingaspopulari think dolphin is for clean installs, but im not sure10:35
dystopianrayHamra: yes you can make konqueror the default very easily10:35
guillermomy web cam has been detected wrongly?10:35
kaminixAnyone have a good howto for fixing PHP5 + Apache2 + MySQL?10:35
dystopianraykaminix: what is wrong with it?10:35
jonaspposingaspopular: i upgraded and for me its dolphin10:36
guillermoi mean it says i got a camera i dont,.. and it does not work10:36
Hamrathank you10:36
kaminixdystopianray: Ah, sorry, might've mixed some Swedish grammar into that sentence. Set it all up I mean.10:36
posingaspopularjonasp: nah its def. konqi10:36
Eli-anyone here installed kubuntu 7.10 on d610?10:36
posingaspopulari'll fight you over this too ;p10:37
jonaspwell, for me it isnt. and i upgraded ;)10:37
nmjohnsois there anyway to back up the ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to recompile it again?10:37
grul!apache10:37
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:37
combo!pastebin10:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:37
jonaspmaybe you still hava a konqueror button in your taskbar10:37
jonaspthat will start konqueror ofc10:38
kaminixgrul: thanks. :)10:38
fdovingfranx: edit /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings - make the second line read: THEME="/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu-no-userlist"10:38
VousDeuxthat lshw output looks like some interesting reading :)10:38
posingaspopularjonasp: whats the diff.?10:38
posingaspopularbecause you're right10:39
kaminixgrul: No howto for Gutsy there though, same as on feisty?10:39
nmjohnsois there a way to back up the ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to recompile it?10:39
gruli don't know, i suppose it can't be that different10:39
dystopianraykaminix: should be almost exactly the same10:39
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dystopianraykaminix: it's basically just installing a handful of packages and you're ready to go10:40
kaminixOkay, got it. :) Thanks. :)10:40
kreibkubuntu is upgradable to 2.6.22  now? with kde 4?10:40
dystopianraykreib: gutsy uses linux 2.6.22 and has kde 4 available10:40
franxfdoving: heyt thanks for that10:40
jonaspposingaspopular: i use the "Quick File Browser" applet. this one launches dolphin as default now - before it was dolphin. if you have a simple konqueror button all it does is launch the konqueror application.10:41
kreibi see, not possible to upgrade from 704 ?10:41
kaminixOh, by the way, why is Firefox 3 in the repos?10:41
dystopianraykreib: yes you most certainly can upgrade10:41
dystopianraykaminix: why not?10:41
jonaspposingaspopular: so even if dolphin is the default application for opening folders you will use konqueror most of the time.10:41
kaminixdystopianray: Because it's not out yet?10:41
kreibok, great. how?10:41
dystopianraykaminix: neither is kde410:41
RytmenPinnenVousDeux: I fixed it by doing sudo mkdir /media/sda1 and then sudo mount dev/hda1 /media/hda110:41
RytmenPinnennot sure if its too wise but I can acces it now :P10:42
combohow can i install *.deb package in 7.10 ? i have such information about libc6 and ldconfig ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41306/  :/10:42
kaminixdystopianray: But KDE4 is in Beta, Firefox three is in alpha?10:42
nmjohnsoguess no one knows10:42
nmjohnsoeh10:42
winchesterPATwich is better SELinux or AppArmor ?10:42
dystopianraykaminix: alpha/beat it's all largely arbitrary10:42
VousDeuxRytmenPinnen: oh, haha...I should have known we needed to supply a destination for the mount...just adds to the fact that I should be sleeping10:42
kaminixWhen is Firefox 3 due to release anyway?10:43
posingaspopularjonasp: i reject your claim because it is not in line with proliteriat interests10:43
dystopianraywinchesterPAT: SELinux is probably technically superior, but apparmour is still quite good10:43
jonasp?10:43
RytmenPinnenhaha :D10:43
comboi mean last two lines are unusual :]10:43
winchesterPATdoes any of them have GUI configurator ?10:43
dystopianraywinchesterPAT: probably not, i don't know, there are guis for setting ACLs10:44
kreibin kubuntu, how to upgrade to 2.6.22 ?10:44
dystopianraykreib: you have to upgrade to gutsy10:45
kreibyes, I mean gutsy, how is ti done10:45
winchesterPATwhy arnet there any huis for it ?10:45
kaminixDo I need php5 and php4? Isn't 5 enough?10:45
dystopianraykaminix: php5 is enough10:45
nmjohnsocan i back up ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to compile it again?10:45
TheGateKeeperwhich version of kde is gutsy using?10:45
kaminixTheGateKeeper: 3.5.810:46
dystopianrayTheGateKeeper: 3.5.8 and has 4.0beta3 in the repos10:46
TheGateKeeperok thanks guys10:46
posingaspopularJucato: ping?10:46
winchesterPATi needf XACLs10:47
fit4lfehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/10:47
fit4lfetrying to upgrade from feisty to gusty using update-manager -c -d10:47
fit4lfeit gets through upgrading then error10:48
posingaspopularisn't is just update-manager -c10:48
Thonolangood morning i have a problem with my adept_updater i want to have it back into my systemtray .I can start it with a command : adept_updater but i want it to have it automaticly at systemstart10:48
fit4lfein the log says one of the repos is not a trusted source10:48
Thonolanand apologize my bad englishplease10:48
fit4lfein the log says one of the repos is not a trusted source10:50
fit4lfehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/10:50
rand_acslol, now my amarokapp also died, out of the blue...10:50
VousDeuxthe only bad english is pig-latin10:50
posingaspopularThonolan: go to the kmenu->system-adept and RIGHT click on it10:51
Thonolanposingaspopular: ok..10:51
guillermoI have been trying 2 days to installa java runtime enviroment without succes can anyone hlp me?10:52
posingaspopularsystem->adept *10:52
posingaspopularguillermo: what commands?10:52
dystopianrayguillermo: which version of the runtime do you want?10:52
posingaspopular!java10:52
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:52
fit4lfehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/10:52
guillermoi am trying to play a cards game on the internet and it asksme for JRE, but when i intalla it from adept it still does not work10:52
fit4lfetrying to upgrade to 7.10 using dist-upgrade10:53
dystopianrayguillermo: which browser are you using?10:53
rand_acsso the amarok problem anyone have a solution?10:53
dystopianrayguillermo: and which jre did you install?10:53
guillermofirefox10:53
posingaspopularrand_acs: not that i know of10:53
guillermothe one listed on adept10:53
TheGateKeeperguillermo: probable best done from the command line (using apt-get)10:53
posingaspopularme too thouhg. no fun.10:54
dystopianrayguillermo: which is?10:54
rand_acsposingaspopular: great, so it was working one restart ago, now it's dead...10:54
Thonolanposingaspopular: how can i set that the adept_updater starts at systemstartautomaticly ?10:54
rand_acsI think this update in sync witt ubuntu standard is a bad idea10:54
guillermoit says sun-java 6 bin10:55
fit4lfethe logs say that one of my repositories is untrusted ?10:55
jabba80hello10:55
fit4lfedo you need a key to upgrade to gusty ?10:55
posingaspopularThonolan: i dont see an option10:55
rand_acsit's just not nearly stable enough :(10:55
dystopianrayguillermo: install the sun-java6-plugin package10:55
jabba80anyone good at mencoder and lavc?10:55
posingaspopularadept usually only starts when there are changes that need to be made to the system10:56
RytmenPinnenwhere in root is the trash located?10:56
jabba80 am trying to encode some cartoon in DivX. i did it like this: http://rafb.net/p/MxB12639.html10:56
Thonolanposingaspopular: ok thanks for trying to help10:56
edulixhi10:56
jabba80but in the resulting video, straight lines look very "pixeled" (sorry for my bad english)10:56
edulixdoes kubuntu have an interface to enable xgl?10:56
jabba80can anybody tell me why? and if there is sth. like a blur-filter which one xould use to make the result look smoother? or am i doing it wrong at all?10:56
guillermodystopianray installing...10:56
fit4lfedo you need a key to upgrade to gusty ?10:56
fit4lfehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/10:57
fit4lfetrying to upgrade to 7.10 using dist-upgrade10:57
dystopianrayguillermo: also open a terminal and run 'java -version', what version does it say?10:57
jabba80omg.. nothing btut gutsy today :D10:57
* dromer tried that too .. and it went horribly :(10:57
guillermoadept is still intalling ahould i open the terminal after the install?10:57
lovrewhenever i move something or open a window, i hear a silent but hearable sound from my computer. Why is that? Is it normal?10:58
dystopianrayguillermo: this is entirely independant of adept, do it now10:58
dromerfirst I could only get in TTY, now I could start is with sudo, so I'm in gnome now :/10:58
dystopianraylovre: noise over the pci bus that is affecting your sound card10:58
posingaspopularfranx: stillhere?10:58
guillermothe installa is finisched and the terminal answers java veriosn "1.6.0.0310:59
posingaspopulari might have an answer for you10:59
lovredystopianray: but i dont hear it from speakers, but from within computer, somewhere around motherboard...10:59
dystopianrayguillermo: restart firefox and try your game again10:59
fit4lfehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/10:59
xenolplz what r advantages of having apparmor enabled?10:59
dystopianraylovre: is your hdd or cdrom?10:59
kaminix"Edit PHP Configuration to Work With MYSQL (Ubuntu Dapper)" <--- Will I need this in Gutsy too?10:59
dystopianraykaminix: if i recall correctly it should be setup for mysql by default11:00
RytmenPinnenVousDeux: you still here? I've freed up 20 gigs now, shall I know make a partition of that and copy stuff there, Or can I simply install gutsy on that partition and keep the other partion,11:01
dystopianraykaminix: you just need to install the php5-mysql package11:01
posingaspopularfit4lfe: maybe #ubuntu can help me, im not sure anyone in here hasa definative answer11:01
Hamracan i download the packages needed for the upgrade seperatly, put them somewhere, and when they are all on my hard drive, use them for the upgrade? i dont think i can donload 670 mb at one time!11:01
guillermoit works11:01
guillermothanks a lot11:01
kaminixdystopianray: Thanks :)11:01
posingaspopularHamra: ive heard the question before11:03
posingaspopulardont remmeber the answer11:03
genux_kubuntulo.. trying to update to 7.10 from 7.04 and on the modifying the software channels it gets stuck on 38/59 file fetching ? any ideas11:03
posingaspopularwho asked about apparmor?11:03
dromerany idea why, after the upgrade, root thinks that 2 of my partitions (of which one is /home) are busy and can't be mounted?11:04
cptn_spoonI'm back! Installed the Nvidia driver manually and am getting the same issue. Resultion is now okay and graphics card is listed correctly but the screen redraws so SLOWLY!11:04
fit4lfeposingaspopular trying that channel too11:04
dromerbecause of it I can't boot into x, I can however get into TTY and start X as root .. but ofcourse I don't want this ..11:04
rand_acsHamra: I think there is an explanation on the upgrade page11:04
Hamraim digging through the support pages, lets hope something helps, thanks for trying anyway11:05
cptn_spoonAnyone got any idea on this? Just to maximize Konversation the window takes about 5 seconds to draw itself11:05
rand_acsHamra: I do that with my BSD boxes :)11:05
dystopianraycptn_spoon: do you have 3d acceleration?11:06
cptn_spoonFirefox seems to work fine though, but the KMenu has this flickering thing going on11:06
cptn_spoonI have a GeForce 4 and I've just installed the nvidia drivers from scratch11:06
genux_kubuntulo.. trying to update to 7.10 from 7.04 and on the modifying the software channels it gets stuck on 38/59 file fetching ? any ideas11:06
posingaspopularfit4lfe: yea i honestly dont know11:07
Hamrai'll download the alternate CD, i can pause it's download aytime with kget, right?11:07
dystopianrayHamra: yeah kget should support resusuming11:07
fit4lfethis sucks11:07
posingaspopularfit4lfe: thats a package right?11:08
Hamrathanks11:08
ndreaHi, I'm getting again an error I had two days ago, everytime I close dolphin...11:08
posingaspopularsearch ubuntu package manager11:08
ndreaUnable to save bookmarks in /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied.11:08
fit4lfeposingaspopular: is the repo outdated11:08
fit4lfeyeah using update-manager11:08
kaminixMySQL is faster that SQLite, right? Using MySQL for Amarok will yield better performance, right?11:09
ndreaI remember it was solved just with one command on the Konsole... but I don't remeber which was. Could someone help me?11:09
fit4lfeno sqlite is faster11:09
cptn_spoonAnyone got any ideas? I've tried installing the nvidia package a few times, tried using Envy and now installed them straight from the nvidia site with their .run package but something is definitely up. It all worked fine with feisty.11:09
kaminixSo I should use sqlite instead?11:09
dystopianraykaminix: leave amarok to the default11:10
kaminixOkay. :)11:10
dystopianraykaminix: if you want to do db stuff with php then use mysql or postgresql11:10
posingaspopularfit4lfe: search through packages.ubuntu.com and see fi you can find any relevent date11:10
SlipperyJimndrea: chmod11:10
posingaspopularor can you just delete the repo althoughter and tell gusty to stop paying it attention?11:11
kaminixI installed MySQL for wiki, just thought I'd get a bonus performance boost using the same database for Amarok. :)11:11
dystopianraykaminix: any performance boost would only matter if you had an enormous collection and were constantly running queries over it11:12
dystopianraykaminix: once you have a playlist and music is playing, mysql does nothing for you11:12
kaminixOh... didn't know that.11:12
BrightEyes`hello.anyone for help me configuring my microphone please?11:12
dystopianraykaminix: the different databases are only for managing the amarok collection, nothing to do with playback or anything else11:13
fit4lfelooks like it  might be a bug in update-manager11:13
kaminixI see. But does it not record playdata in the database all the time dystopianray?11:13
fit4lfebut i am also using nxserver right now and that might be part of the problem11:13
rand_acsfit4lfe: well, my adept is crashing left, right and center so I wouldn't be surprised11:13
fit4lfejust you get it to upgrade at leaset11:14
fit4lfeleast11:14
dromergah, my desktop is now so fucked-up :(11:14
ndreaslipperyjim: could you give me the whole command please?11:14
fit4lfeyou might have to do a xserver configure for video for gusty11:14
SlipperyJimumm...11:14
dystopianraykaminix: yes, but one bit of data every 3-4 minutes is so insignificant11:15
posingaspopularndrea: sudo11:15
dystopianraykaminix: the main reason you'd use mysql is to have multiple machines sharing the same collection or to query the collection from php or some other programming language11:15
kaminixdystopianray: Oh, I see. I thought I'd remember older Amarok versions telling my MySQL is faster but not as easy to setup.11:16
RytmenPinnencould some go to disk and file settings and check what settings there should be for the tmp partioin, mine dissappeared11:16
xenolhello. i got probs with OOo when i try to open some odt file it launches document recovery. any clues?11:16
posingaspopularxenol: me too11:16
posingaspopularno clue11:16
fit4lfe I can't even do a dist-upgrade to 7.10 wtf11:16
posingaspopularexcept.... never close 00011:16
fit4lfeisn't sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:17
posingaspopularfit4lfe: are you doing updatemanager -c -d11:17
fit4lfeyeah11:17
xenolposingaspopular:  u discovered this after upgrade to gutsy?11:17
fit4lfeupdate-manager -c -d11:17
posingaspopularsudp apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:17
RytmenPinnencould some go to disk and file settings and check what settings there should be for the tmp partioin, mine dissappeared when I tried to add a partition11:17
RytmenPinnen*partition11:17
winchesterPATany one using LVM with enciption ?11:18
winchesterPATencription11:18
posingaspopularRytmenPinnen: one sexc11:18
seregaHi guys11:18
fit4lfeyep upgrade done11:18
fit4lfelool11:18
fit4lfelol11:18
dystopianraykaminix: it's not the type of 'faster' that you'd actually notice11:19
fit4lfegrrrrr11:19
TimSI created a file with mencoder, it runs perfecty and looks okay to me, but the size of the orignal is 60mb and the new one is 34kb, how can I get this to update11:19
posingaspopularthat foesnt work for me11:19
posingaspopularfit4lfe: you serious11:19
fit4lfeyep11:19
posingaspopularRytmenPinnen: it doesnt show anything for me11:19
seregadoes anybody know what happened with laptop special keys in gutsy? :(11:19
fit4lfethats cause it doesn't work11:19
winchesterPATThe Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Linux client requires people to copy over the media pak files from the Windows PC version of the game. :D11:19
RytmenPinnenpress administrator mode11:19
fit4lfethere are special dist-upgrade commands11:19
posingaspopular!permissions | ndrea11:20
ubotundrea: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux11:20
fit4lfe!dist-upgrade11:20
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes11:20
posingaspopularRytmenPinnen: i know, but when i put in my password, i dont see anything at all11:21
posingaspopularno changes11:21
posingaspopularfit4lfe: now you know. never ever use a gui for dist upgrade11:21
RytmenPinnenaha, hmm11:21
posingaspopulari was just about to tell you that11:21
fit4lfeyeah well the command  line itsn't working either11:21
BrightEyes`hello.anyone for help me configuring my microphone please?11:21
winchesterPATLinux Filesystem_Hierarchy sucks11:21
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fit4lfeI do have the cd image though11:22
cptn_spoonI cant get my Geforce4 to work in Gutsy...any ideas? I've tried installing the nvidia package a few times, tried using Envy and now installed them straight from the nvidia site with their .run package but something is definitely up. It all worked fine with feisty.11:22
fit4lfei could use that11:22
fit4lfeto upgrade11:22
seregaBrightEyes: what problems?11:22
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rand_acseven my menu editor is broken11:22
fit4lfeshould be able to just mount it right ?11:22
xenoli got probs with OOo when i try to open some odt file it launches document recovery. any clues?11:23
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posingaspopularxenol: search launchpad bugs11:23
combo!ATI11:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:23
posingaspopularBrightEyes`: is there a 'configure hardware' somewhere in kubuntu11:23
posingaspopulari coulda sworn....11:23
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dystopianrayposingaspopular: what do you want to configure?11:24
posingaspopulardystopianray: BrightEyes` needs help configuring a mic11:24
BrightEyes`posingaspopular: where is that configure hardware?11:24
RytmenPinnenDoes anyone know how to setup a /tmp partition, Mine dissappeared after I tried to add a new partiotio n11:24
posingaspopularsystem-kubuntu device manager11:25
posingaspopulari think11:25
Kachnaguys,just a question....11:25
posingaspopularits not launching for me though11:25
dystopianrayBrightEyes`: you probably just need to change a few things in alsamixer11:25
ubuntu_Just installed kubuntu gutsy, adept doenloaded restricted packages for nvidia I tried to correct the wanted resolution, in systems settings-monitor, it asked to restart x config on rebooting I am stuck the display is full of text help me!11:25
posingaspopulargo figure11:25
Kachnawhat the hell is kde4 for windows?!11:25
posingaspopularubuntu_: dont panic11:25
dystopianrayKachna: it's kde4 for windows11:25
posingaspopulartype in11:25
seregaheh11:25
seregaport og libraries11:25
serega*of11:25
cptn_spoonubotu: I've followwed everything there and its still not working. all windows redraw so slowly11:25
Kachnadystopianray: omg -.-11:25
dystopianrayKachna: you dont' like kde?11:25
posingaspopularsudo /etc/mitd/?dm restart11:25
TimSJucato: Whats the command line to find out the size of a file? Is there a option like ls that will show details like size?11:25
posingaspopularthat should work.....11:25
seregathis means that you can run KDE4 application on windows11:26
Kachnadystopianray: i do,but i'm curious what is it for on win :-/11:26
Kachnaserega: mmm interesting11:26
wesleyhow can i unlock adept it did crashed11:26
rinaldihey is there still anyone having problems upgrading to 7.10?11:26
dystopianrayKachna: it's for using kde4 in windows11:26
BrightEyes`posingaspopular: it doesnt configure my mic.i ve done all the tests now and nothing11:26
posingaspopularrinaldi: how are you trying to do it11:26
rand_acsuhm... ok restartig KDE makes amarok play again...11:27
Kachnadystopianray: yep i understand...just sounds like a strange combination...11:27
posingaspopularBrightEyes`: ive never used any mic for a computer... l/11:27
rinaldiusing adept but theres no version upgrade button11:27
posingaspopular:/11:27
posingaspopularrinaldi: its easier to do it with a konsole or command line11:27
seregasee ya, gutsy guys ;)11:27
cptn_spoonDoes anyone else actually have the "Restricted Drivers" menu from the System Settings > Advanced window? It's not there on mine. Does that mean Gutsy hasn't updated properly??11:27
rikyHi i have a problem with the layout of my keybord infact when i install Kubuntu i set the italina layout but after some deys the layout of keybord change in US ayout keybord ho can i change in italian layout keybord?thankyou very match11:27
posingaspopularsudo apt-get upgrate && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:27
rand_acsI think it might be less buggy to try out KDE 4.011:28
rinaldiiv tried forcing the version upgrade using kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"11:28
rand_acs!KDE 4.011:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde 4.0 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:28
wesleycan someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database11:28
dystopianrayriky: system settings -> regional and language -> keyboard layout11:28
rand_acs!KDE411:28
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php11:28
dystopianray!kde411:28
posingaspopularrinaldi: have you tried just doing a dist-upgrade in konsole?11:29
rand_acsthink I'm going to try that package out :)11:29
wesleycan someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database11:29
rinaldiposingaspopular: iv tried kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"11:29
rinaldino il try that thanks11:29
rand_acsanyone here using it?11:29
dystopianrayrand_acs: it's likely to be incomplete to the point where it is unusable11:30
posingaspopularrinaldi: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade11:30
posingaspopularrun both11:30
QwertyMrand_acs: highly unusable :(11:30
dystopianrayrand_acs: I have only used earlier betas though11:30
rinaldiposingaspopular: yeh im trying now11:30
rand_acsdamn11:30
posingaspopularriky: maybe someone in ubuntu-italy can help you11:31
wesleycan someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database11:31
BrightEyes`i cant get my mic work. alsamixer says that [Playback] Mic the volume is full. [Capture] Mic : L R Captur, only that for mic .what can i do11:31
posingaspopular!it | riky11:31
uboturiky: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:31
rikytankyou11:32
Pete^_Anyone solved the problem with HUGE fonts at login?11:33
wesleycan someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database11:33
ksivaji!adept-fix11:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:34
Hamrais there a CD burning tool in kubuntu? and what is generally the recommended program, im used to nero on windows.11:34
ksivajiHamra k3b11:35
pag!aptfix | wesley11:35
ubotuwesley: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:35
ksivajihi pag have you tried gutsy11:36
RichardBHhi - does anyone know how to turn off filtering in adept? It loads (fairly quickly) but then spends a few minutes filtering when I dont need it to11:37
Ash-FoxGutsy for the win.11:37
pagksivaji, I've been using it for a week :)11:37
Ash-FoxRichardBH, untick all the filter boxes.11:37
RichardBHAsh-Fox- thanks11:37
RichardBHill try that after this update fails for the 5th time11:38
dystopianrayHamra: k3b is the best free cd/dvd burning tool on any system11:38
dystopianrayHamra: nero is available for linux, it supports hd-dvd and blu-ray burning11:38
RichardBHactually, unrelated question - how can i tell whether im on 7.04 or 7.10?11:38
pag!release | RichardBH11:38
ubotuRichardBH: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases11:38
posingaspopularRichardBH: lsb_release -a11:38
posingaspopularin konsole/termial11:38
posingaspopularrun that command11:39
RichardBHthe update closed on fetching updates three times, so i used adept to upgrade the 900 or so packages11:39
paghmm... wrong factoid - sorry :\11:39
RichardBHand KDE has changed11:39
Ash-FoxRichardBH, if you're installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, it's best todo it win the console: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras11:39
Ash-FoxThat way sun java won't screw up the install11:39
RichardBHbut itll still letting me upgrade through adept11:39
ubuntu_Posing as popular: well your command for the desktop diplay did not work I am back on live cd11:39
posingaspopularto restart x11:39
posingaspopularso sorry let me get the correct one11:40
posingaspopular!x11:40
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:40
RichardBHah, i am on 7.10...so why is the upgrade distribution button still there??11:40
posingaspopularubuntu_: i told you /imt.d/ or something like that, that was my sloppy handwriting11:40
posingaspopularso sorry11:40
ubuntu_posingaspopular:I noted your command on paper , restarted, and now again rebooted on live cd dear11:41
stdinRichardBH: it's a known bug, just ignore it11:41
ksivajiRichardBH may be for 8.04 lol11:41
ksivajistdin hi11:41
posingaspopularRichardBH: i had the same issue, something screwy like that11:41
fit4lfe!dist-upgrade11:41
RichardBHstdin: its still willing to upgrade/install another 35/4 packages :P11:41
posingaspopularubuntu_: yea i gave you the wrong command, sorry11:41
stdinksivaji: hey :)11:42
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes11:42
soonI need KMail to store my stuff on an external drive - where can I change the path for mail folders etc?11:42
stdinRichardBH: try with apt-get/adept11:42
ubuntu_imitd/?11:42
BrightEyes`H E L L O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A n y o n e  for help????????11:42
stdin!ask11:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:42
wesleyis 5 gb not enough for kubuntu?11:42
posingaspopularubuntu_: it should be /inti.d/11:42
ksivaji!caps11:42
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.11:42
RichardBHstdin- the upgrader hasnt crashed yet - i still have my fingers crossed:P11:42
posingaspopularwesley: depends on wheter or not you have a seperate /home partition11:43
rand_acsif I had $5 for every time I've ran ps -ef | grep this morning11:43
wesleyi dont have a seperate /home partition in kubuntu11:43
posingaspopularwell it should install11:43
posingaspopularbut there just wont be lots of room11:43
dystopianraywesley: 5GB should be enough but won't leave much room for anything else11:43
posingaspopular!kubuntu11:43
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE11:44
wesleyno its seems full now11:44
RichardBHsdin- ah no, frozen on the last file again11:44
RichardBH...and closed11:44
rand_acsbtw, after a few times restarting X kmail is working again11:44
rand_acsI bet it's some race condition problem11:45
[Bart]hi, maybe a stupid question (I'm debian user, not ubunut/kubuntu user), if you download the latest 7.10 Kubuntu release, does it contain a 'live cd'?11:47
dystopianray[Bart]: yes it does11:47
[Bart]dystopianray : perfect! thanks for the confirmation11:47
rand_acsbtw, have anyone every fixed the issue with the menu bar system tray, that some icon doesn't get "locked" into it, but appear somewhere else on the desktop?11:48
dystopianray[Bart]: make sure you get the 'desktop' cd11:48
[Bart]I'll give it to my parents then :) anybody who runs this from a pentium I? if so, does it run smoothly?11:48
zenumHey... i just upgraded to gutsy and firefox/swiftfox both have a really ugly black border around all the toolbars11:48
dystopianray[Bart]: you'll need at least 384MB of ram just to run the livecd11:48
aotianlongso many people here!11:48
aotianlongany chinese here?11:49
Ingelsrudno11:49
stdin!cn11:49
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk11:49
[Bart]dystopianray : oeps ..that's a problem. only 128m :)11:49
aotianlongthanks11:49
aotianlongtry it.11:49
Ingelsrudim norwegian11:49
dystopianray[Bart]: then you'll need the altnerate installer cd, which isn't a livecd11:49
aotianlong#ubuntu-cn11:49
zenumis there any way i can get firefox to look nice again?11:49
aotianlongi'm just update to ubuntu 7.1011:49
dystopianray[Bart]: or get an external drive with a swap parittion hooked up to get it up past 384MB of total memory11:50
aotianlongit looks very good11:50
RichardBHdystopianray: is that different to the 7.04 one? I ran that on 320 ok11:50
MaDiNfO_hi11:50
dystopianrayRichardBH: gutsy is supposed to use more memory than fiesty for some reason11:50
RichardBHah, ok11:50
[Bart]dystopianray: ok, Then I'll just install it on the pc over there. Indeed I can add a lot of swap space..but not good for the performance of course11:50
MaDiNfO_anyone knows after upgrading to 7.111:50
MaDiNfO_why does thing no longer compile ?11:50
RichardBHit seems to be running ok on said 320mb/300mhz processor :P11:50
MaDiNfO_./configures cant find any headers..11:50
nosrednaekimMaDiNfO_: things like what?11:51
MaDiNfO_checking cdda_interface.h usability... no11:51
MaDiNfO_checking cdda_interface.h presence... no11:51
MaDiNfO_checking for cdda_interface.h... no11:51
MaDiNfO_for example11:51
MaDiNfO_and they are there11:52
nosrednaekimMaDiNfO_: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"11:52
nosrednaekimalthough that may befrom a -dev package..11:52
MaDiNfO_build-essential is already the newest version.11:52
edulixI'm having trouble with xgl and kde. when I use kde with xgl in multiple system, It lways happened... meanwhile it works fine with gnome. keyboard. I want my keyboard in spanish, but despite I have kcontrol configure to spanish, my keyboard layout is still messed up. in gnome it works fine, how can I  copy keyboard layout from gnome to kde?11:52
nosrednaekimMaDiNfO_: what are you compiling?11:53
MaDiNfO_kaffeine11:53
* E_mE is about to upgrae his laptop to Gutsy with KDE 4 :D11:53
nosrednaekimmay I ask why?11:53
MaDiNfO_because i need it :)11:54
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: why can't you use the kaffeine with gutsy? it is the latest version11:54
nosrednaekimMaDiNfO_: but its in the repositories11:54
MaDiNfO_yes it is 0.8.511:54
MaDiNfO_i need SVN11:54
MaDiNfO_:)11:54
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: why?11:54
[Bart]kde4? doesn't look very nice I find.. I like my 3.5 installation.. with compiz-fusion11:54
MaDiNfO_i make some help coding it11:54
MaDiNfO_:)11:54
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JohnFlux_djdarkman: ping11:56
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: code up teletext support!11:56
JohnFlux_djdarkman: I added the option to change the units11:56
MaDiNfO_dystopianray: :)11:56
MaDiNfO_someday11:56
RytmenPinnenHi again, new question: Can I make my /home folder a separate partition?11:56
posingaspopularRytmenPinnen: yes11:56
jabba80if i am using "-ovc lavc" and "vcodec=xvid" with mencoder, is there any possibility to use xvid-specific options like "cartoon"?11:56
dystopianrayRytmenPinnen: yes11:56
posingaspopularand i recomend you do11:56
posingaspopularso if you hose the os, you can still recover your data11:56
MaDiNfO_dystopianray: 1st u need to help me out11:56
RytmenPinnenposingaspopular:11:56
posingaspopularand you can mount /home to any distro11:56
RytmenPinnencan I do it form a live session11:57
posingaspopular.... i havent touched a live cd in months11:57
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: you're probably missing required -dev packages11:57
posingaspopulari want to so yes, but i dont want to get hit either11:57
voicuhow do i check if X has randr enabled?11:57
MaDiNfO_dystopianray: no i am not11:57
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: try: sudo apt-get build-dep kaffeine11:57
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: yeah11:57
RytmenPinnenposingaspopular:  ah k, Well, the thing is the update tool trashed my system so now I'm sitting on a live session trying to figure out how to save my files11:58
stdinjabba80: use -xvidencopts11:58
MaDiNfO_dystopianray: libstreamer11:58
posingaspopularyea thats why /home is critical ;011:58
MaDiNfO_not needed but ok11:58
posingaspopularmy gutsy install is still all over the place too11:58
RytmenPinnen:P11:58
MaDiNfO_dystopianray: the same11:59
MaDiNfO_:)11:59
ubuntuposingaspopular: Dear the new command is also not working, and I dont know withiout gui how to go in console and type, I think I will reinstall once, if it works fine, or windows vista is the ultimate11:59
contrast83RytmenPinnen: I only suggest this as a last resort, but it worked for me - From the live CD, mount the hard drive if it isn't already, delete everything in it except /home, and rename /home to a folder that's not in the default filesystem, then install from the alternate cd, but do *not* format the drive12:00
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: you probably have it configured differently to how ubuntu does12:00
RytmenPinnenhmm, I see I guess that Could work12:00
posingaspopularsudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  isn't launching the graphics for you?12:00
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: so it has different build deps than ubuntu's version12:01
ubuntuNo!12:01
MaDiNfO_erm12:01
nosrednaekimcontrast83: or you could just shrink the partition and reinstall12:01
MaDiNfO_how can i fix this ?12:01
contrast83RytmenPinnen: you have to use the alternate disc to install though. the live cd won't let you install to an unclean target12:01
posingaspopularreally?!12:01
posingaspopulari have no idea how to fix your issue12:01
nosrednaekimubuntu: you did replace the ? mark with kdm right?12:01
RytmenPinnenoh12:01
nosrednaekim*k12:01
RytmenPinnenwitch is the alternate disc?12:02
ubuntuI even tried recivery mode typed the command their but failed to get the results12:02
contrast83nosrednaekim: that should work too. unfortunately, when i was in his situation, i couldn't get qparted or gparted to work, so i had to do the above.12:02
jabba80stdin: even if i use "-ovc lavc" and not "-ovc xvid"? Isn't that interfering?12:02
posingaspopulari fail12:02
* nosrednaekim winders if anyone has heard of cfdisk12:02
ubuntuNo12:02
contrast83not i12:02
jabba80thought "-xvidencopts" was only for "-ovc xvid"12:03
kreibupgrade to gutsy seems to hang at configuring ttf-dejavu, anyone seen the same ?12:03
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: try installing libcdparanoia0-dev12:03
dystopianraynosrednaekim: you nee help with cfdisk?12:03
MaDiNfO_dystopianray: libcdparanoia0-dev is already the newest version.12:04
nosrednaekimubuntu: did you run "/etc/init.d/kdm start"?12:04
MaDiNfO_anyway how can i check include dir in system ?12:04
stdinjabba80: it may be, not sure. but it's the only way I see to configure the codec options12:04
jabba80k12:04
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: can you configure it so it does not compile the cd ripping feature?12:04
nosrednaekimdystopianray: nah... certain others were saying that they couldn't get graprted working...so they had to resort to extreme things ;)12:04
ubuntu nosrednaekim: I have to replace the question mark with 'K'?12:04
jabba80mencoder at least doesn't complain12:04
RytmenPinnennosrednaekim: what do you mean with this? "or you could just shrink the partition and reinstall"12:04
MaDiNfO_dystopianray: yes i can but the problem is that configure can find anything in /usr/include12:05
MaDiNfO_even dvb12:05
MaDiNfO_or so12:05
ubuntu nosrednaekim: so that is the right command sure?12:05
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: hrrm well i'm not sure12:05
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: erase everything but your /home on that partition, shrink it, and then make a new partition for /12:05
nosrednaekimubuntu: small k, but yes12:05
RytmenPinnennosrednaekim:  and that is "doable" fromt the live cd?12:05
ubuntuThan I need not reinstall12:05
B-Minusquestion : why are the firefox buttons like "google search" etc.. different than windows .. they look very old12:06
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: certainly12:06
RytmenPinnensounds good to me12:06
jabba80stdin: with -sws 7  and scaling it does a nice result12:06
jabba80(even without cartoon) :D12:06
stdinnice :)12:06
DaleksDividedB-Minus: its the same with firefox on windows12:06
ubuntuAfter booting text lines running this and this comes one below another, and finaly the curser blinks without moving down, here I have to type the command right?12:06
nosrednaekimif it says something like "root@ubuntu$" yes12:07
posingaspopularnosrednaekim: why does ubuto say to /etc/init/?dm restart?12:07
ubuntuNo it doesn,t, how do I go there12:07
nosrednaekimubuntu: becasue there is also GDM, which comes with ubuntu.12:08
ubuntuIn recovery mode what you mentioned i could see that12:08
ubuntuShall I go in recovery mode and type that command12:09
nosrednaekimubuntu: ok, in non-recovery mode, press "ctrl+alt+f2" and log in from there12:09
B-Minushow is the apple-like taskbar called ? can i install it ?12:09
B-Minusapple-panel12:10
ubuntuI will have to restart now as I am on live cd, see you back all12:10
nosrednaekimB-Minus: kooldock?12:10
nosrednaekimubuntu: ah... don't forget to run that program with sudo12:10
B-Minushmmz12:11
B-Minusmaybe12:11
B-Minusi thought compiz was already default installed with kubuntu 7.10 ?12:11
B-Minusbut i dont see it at the install12:11
posingaspopularnope12:11
TimSB-Minus: Its not the full Compiz12:11
posingaspopular!compiz | B-Minus12:11
ubotuB-Minus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion12:11
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nosrednaekimB-Minus: nope, you have to manually install it (but its not hard)12:12
B-Minustnx12:12
TimSUbuntu comes with a stripped down desktop effects but Kubuntu doesnt12:12
B-Minusyou are all veryu helpfull12:12
E_mEcan you have a KDE 4 and KDE 3.5 instance installed in kubuntu and then use KDE 4 when you want but always default to KDE 3.5?12:12
dystopianrayE_mE: yes, the same way you can have kde and gnome12:13
E_mEthank you12:13
Hamrai was trying to see samba shares, when it said "The process for the smb protocol died unexpectedly.", any ideas?12:13
RytmenPinnennosrednaekim: K, I'm deleting files now, where do I shrink /home?12:13
nosrednaekimE_mE: certainly12:13
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: qtparted12:13
RytmenPinnenshould I wait for all files to be deleted before running that?12:14
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: yeah :)12:14
RytmenPinnen:)12:14
contrast83has anyone here been able to run KDE 4 Beta 3 as a full session? Mine crashes back to KDM about half way through the splash screen12:14
nosrednaekimcontrast83: yes,12:15
nosrednaekimcontrast83: you need "kde4case-dev"12:15
voicuhow can i find out if the X server has randr enabled? i can't find anything in the man pages12:15
TimSHave they made the Kde$ origional artwork yet?12:16
TimS4*12:16
contrast83nosrednaekim: oh ok. i was going strictly by what it said on kubuntu.org. i'll try installing that, thanks.12:16
dystopianrayvoicu: what driver are you using?12:16
voicumga12:16
dystopianrayvoicu: and what version of randr are you takling about?12:16
dystopianrayvoicu: just type 'xrandr' on the terminal12:16
nosrednaekimcontrast83: whoops "kde4base-dev"12:17
contrast83nosrednaekim: so since i don't have that installed (just kde-workspace), it's normal that i can run kde4 stuff over my kde 3 session, but not kde 4 as a full session?12:17
contrast83nosrednaekim: i figured :-)12:17
nosrednaekimcontrast83: and that is on kubuntu.org;)12:17
voicudystopianray: i need randr for rotating the screen12:17
nosrednaekimcontrast83: yeah12:17
dystopianrayvoicu: run xrandr and it will tell you if it can rotate12:17
voicui typed xrandr, a bunch of resolutions appeared12:17
voicunope, i don't think so12:17
contrast83ohh. wow. how'd i miss that.12:17
dystopianrayvoicu: does it have a 'rotations possible' line?12:17
MaDiNfO_dystopianray: i quit12:18
MaDiNfO_:112:18
MaDiNfO_:\12:18
voicuno12:18
stdincontrast83: the instructions were updated to say "Install kdebase-workspace and kde4base-dev."12:18
dystopianrayvoicu: pastebin the output12:18
dystopianrayMaDiNfO_: try asking for help in #ubuntu12:18
contrast83stdin: oh ok. i don't feel so dumb now. thanks12:18
voicudystopianray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41322/12:19
dystopianrayvoicu: it looks like you do not have rotation support12:20
voicuyeah...12:20
voicucan i enable it?12:20
dystopianrayvoicu: probably not unless you write a patch against the video driver12:20
voicuhmm... nice12:21
voicuisn't there a software only solution?12:21
dystopianrayno idea12:21
voicuwell thanks anyway12:21
voicu... back to square 112:21
feierfooxhello12:25
feierfooxi have a question12:25
voicudude, just ask12:25
feierfooxi have a SATA Drive with exisiting ext3 File System and files on it12:25
voicu^^12:25
feierfooxon this drive, i want to make a new kubuntu-installation12:26
feierfooxcan i do it without loosing some of the files?12:26
bottigerI just upgraded to gutsy on my desktop. But unlike my laptop it didn't install apparmor, stringi, etc. However the splash-screen and artwork is all gutys12:26
voicufeierfoox: do you have only one partition?12:26
feierfooxyes12:26
voicufeierfoox: i think you can install it without formatting but you should resize it and make a separate partition for the system12:27
feierfooxhmmm,the drive is totaly full12:27
feierfooxonly some gigs left12:27
feierfoox:(12:28
voicufeierfoox: do you want to install linux again or something else?12:28
feierfooxsomezthing else12:28
nosrednaekimfeierfoox: delete some of those illegal movies then ;)12:28
feierfooxi have an old dapper-session on my old IDE drive12:28
feierfooxthe sata drive is my second12:28
feierfoox:/12:28
voicufeierfoox: what os do you want to install? if it can work with ext3 you have no chance but to create another partition12:29
voicu*can't12:29
feierfooxok12:29
feierfooxkubuntu of course12:29
voicucan't you install over the old ide drive?12:29
feierfooxthere is my /home/12:30
feierfooxi don't want to make experiements12:30
voicuah12:30
voicudunno, put some of the stuff on dvds, make some space and create a new partition12:30
voicuthen you won't have problems again if you want to reinstall12:31
voicu5-10gb should be enough12:31
feierfooxhmmm12:31
feierfooxthat idea sound good12:31
feierfooxwhich kde tool is recommented for creating partitions?12:32
feierfooxon gnome i used gPart12:32
nosrednaekimqtparted12:32
feierfooxqtparted? does the live CD contains it12:32
voicuyeah, that12:32
voicuyeah12:33
voicu(?)12:33
feierfooxbecause, my running system can't mount my target drive12:33
feierfooxok12:33
feierfooxshould 8 GB be enough?12:33
nosrednaekimshould be12:34
voicua fresh install is about 2-3gb12:34
voicuif you don't need many programs at once it's more than enough12:34
soonIm not familiar with instant messaging services AT ALL .... if I choose AIM e.g will I be able to send messages to MSN or Jabber users and vice versa?12:34
dystopianraysoon: no12:34
YammehThey're different protocols and servers, soon12:35
soonso I need to establish a whole range of accounts then ?12:35
dystopianraysoon: that's like saying: if I speak german will I still be able to talk to the french?12:35
dystopianraysoon: that's right12:35
soonokay - well, as I said - Ive never used any IM services b412:35
stdinsoon: kopete supports all those protocols (and more)12:35
B-Minusintel gfx are not supported by compiz ?12:35
dystopianraysoon: jabber can simplify things through the use of transports12:35
B-Minusi remember a year ago i installed beryl and it worked12:36
dystopianrayB-Minus: intel graphics have the best support for compiz12:36
B-Minushm12:36
soonso jabber will 'convert' to other formats?12:36
B-Minusi only have a intel 915GM card12:36
voicucan qtparted resize partitions without destroing data?12:36
stdinsoon: no, you use multiple accounts with kopete12:36
dystopianrayB-Minus: I have a 915GM card, compiz works perfectly12:36
nosrednaekimvoicu: sure12:36
voicuwell the option is grayed out12:37
soonokay - multiple accounts it is then :-(12:37
dystopianraysoon: jabber can be setup so that when you login to your jabber account it logs into msn, aim, yahoo etc and lets you talk to people on those networks12:37
dystopianraysoon: but it still needs you to have an account on each network12:37
B-Minusdystopianray: strange i must be doing something wrong then12:37
soonokay - thanks12:37
B-Minus!comiz12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about comiz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:37
B-Minus!compiz12:37
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion12:37
dystopianrayB-Minus: that is likely12:37
guest22where ispanish channel ?12:37
stdin!es12:38
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.12:38
posingaspopularbed12:38
guest22thanks you, gracias12:38
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haffiHi, I was checking if nvidia-glx-new would work better than nvidia-glx for my card, but I found out that it wouldn't work, so I installed nvidia-glx again. Now I get a API mismatch between the kernel and the driver12:44
DaNi`M1hello12:45
DaNi`M1official repositories are down?12:45
baudthiefI need to install XP (for gaming) on a seperate physical drive, how do I go about setting up a multiboot system with Kubuntu as my primary OS?12:45
dystopianrayanyone else notice that gutsy fonts are blurrier?12:46
baudthiefactually... I forgot my bios allows you to select a physical boot HDD after POST, disregard my question12:46
DaNi`M1baudthief: with grub12:46
nosrednaekimhaffi: did you try restarting?12:46
DaNi`M1kubuntu install grub, you can install before startup-manager and config grub12:47
DaNi`M1is easy12:47
haffinosrednaekim: Yes, I did that12:47
haffinosrednaekim: startx gives me the API mismatch error12:48
alain_allo12:48
nosrednaekimhaffi: remove all of the nvidia driver stuff with synaptic and then try reinstalling the nvidia-glx12:48
alain_qui peut medai12:48
alain_personne12:49
stdin!fr12:50
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:50
alain_c pour amsn12:50
alain_je voix pas la taille de police12:50
haffinosrednaekim: Will do12:50
stdinalain_: /join #kubuntu-fr12:51
alain_oui mais j'ai pas trouvé12:51
kowesixhow can i mount mds files? Oo12:53
stdinkowesix: you have to convert to ISO12:53
stdin!iso12:53
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.12:53
kowesixdoes the mini-/maxi-mds image still work when i converted it to iso? :]12:54
darkoxhi12:54
Rise_Againsti got a problem with the upgrade to gutsy :( there are always errors :[12:55
stdinkowesix: afaik, mds is just a compressed ISO omage12:55
stdinimage12:55
Rise_Againsthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41326/12:55
darkoxmhm... maybe anyone can tell me how to install kavascript to kubuntu?12:55
nosrednaekimstdin: c ya! i'm goint o try to get some python work going..12:55
nosrednaekimhave fun.12:56
stdinnosrednaekim: heh, have fun ;)12:56
haffinosrednaekim: Just FIY, the problem is now fixed, I deletted all nvidia_new files fomr /lib/linux-restricted-modules/*kernel-number* directory12:56
stdinRise_Against: try "sudo apt-get update" (and post the output to pastebin)12:56
haffinosrednaekim: Maybe aptitude remove nvidia-glx-new --purge would have worked also12:57
stdindarkox: if it's not in the repositories you have to manually install it, using instructions from where you got it from12:57
krautmoin12:58
baudthiefis there a way to convert a vmware installation to a "normal" installation?12:58
Rise_Againsthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41327/12:58
Rise_Againstduplicate sources o_O12:59
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stdinRise_Against: yep, post your /etc/apt/sources.list and we'll sort them out12:59
Rise_Againsthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41328/13:00
Carnage\Rise_Against: Just look at the bottom...13:00
Carnage\Remove the last three lines13:01
Rise_Againstyep13:01
stdinremove those lines and it should be ok13:01
MinnozzHi, I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, and my wireless network randomly drops. KNetworkManager is not responding to anything, it freezes in the state just before the drop (the info)13:01
Minnozzanybody knows why and how to fix it?13:01
Rise_Againstthanks :) upgrading now..13:02
baudthiefis gutsy vastly improved (stability etc) compared to feisty?13:04
Rise_Againstand.. if anyone got time.. how can i change the size of my ext3 partition ? i tried it with qtparted on a live cd but it didnt work :(13:04
ubuntu__K I\ve deleted all files now13:04
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RytmenPinnenexcept 2 files that wont go away13:04
RurouniJonesAnyone got recommendations for a Laptop that behaves nicely with Kubuntu and has a decent GFX card for gaming?13:04
RytmenPinnennot sure if they even excist13:04
RurouniJonesAlso, gobs of RAM and a nice CPU13:04
RytmenPinnenposingaspopular: it was qtparted right_13:05
stdinRurouniJones: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic13:05
Rise_Againstbye :)13:07
RurouniJonesTa stdin13:07
SMP_ca@13:08
darkoxoch god... I felt like totally newbe.... Today is my first day in kubuntu after ~7years windows :)13:10
RytmenPinnenposingaspopular: you still here? or anyone else that can help me with partitioning from a live session13:10
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massi__i think no13:10
queequeges.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down!13:11
MinnozzI'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, and my wireless network randomly drops. KNetworkManager is not responding to anything, it freezes in the state just before the drop (the info). Anybody knows why & how to fix it?13:12
massi__why?13:12
stdinqueequeg: switch to another one then13:12
queequegwhich one, please?13:12
stdinqueequeg: try the main one13:12
massi__are you sure?13:13
queequegbut then I'll lose the language translations (into spanish) right?13:13
stdinmassi__: ?13:13
darkoxis in kubuntu something like my computer? :) i'm totally green here :D13:13
stdinqueequeg: no13:13
stdindarkox: try system:/ in konqueror13:14
massi__where are you from?13:14
queequeghmm, thanks, switching13:14
ubuntuHello together, i have a problem installing kubuntu. i started from cd and if i try to install it by pressing the install button on the desktop, nothing happens13:14
RytmenPinnenCould someone help me with partitioning with qtparted from a live session13:14
ubuntuwhat could that be?13:14
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darkoxhow to see how many free space is in my hard drive?13:15
massi__anyone speak spanish?13:15
RytmenPinnenthere\s a spanish kubuntuchannel i think13:15
queequegYo hablo español13:15
AzzcoI've been able to boot from liveCDs before but now I only get "ISOLINUX 3.36 Debian-2007-08-30" before I can selext anything13:15
stdindarkox: from media:/ right click on the partition, or in konsole "df -h"13:15
stdin!es13:16
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.13:16
Azzcoselect*13:16
lgcovizzialguém aqui fala português?13:16
stdin!pt13:16
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.13:16
ONeill|chillthe install application loads about 10 seconds and the closes himself13:16
queequegalright, thanks13:16
massi__mmh13:17
massi__i speak italian13:17
ONeill|chillcan someone help me?13:17
RytmenPinnenONeill|chill:  I\m far from an expert but you could try to reboot and try again maby13:18
ONeill|chillhm, ok, i will try that13:19
BrightEyes`ive just setup my webcam and see it working in kopete.when i login to my account it crashes.any other goods programs.i cant configure my webcam in amsn13:19
RytmenPinnenyou logging on to msn?13:19
BrightEyes`RytmenPinnen: yes13:19
RytmenPinnencause theres a bug causing kopete to crash when logging on to msn, dunno when a fix is here, probably soon13:20
ksivajiopenchrome (xserver-xorg-video-openchrome ) is available for gutsy or not13:20
rand_acsthere is a fix13:20
RytmenPinnendoes pidgin support webcams?13:20
rand_acspeople where talking about it yesterday13:20
RytmenPinnenaha, interesting,......... and im still trying to update13:20
BrightEyes`rand_acs: fix for what? kopete?13:21
rand_acsyes13:21
BrightEyes`please let me know13:21
stdinBrightEyes`: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/304113:21
rand_acsI don't use it myself, so I can't help there13:21
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BrightEyes`rand_acs: my web cam isnt showing the picture very good.ive seen a similar webcam working on windoze xp and it was fine.what can i do for that?13:23
rand_acsBrightEyes`: no idea, I've never owned one, crap broadband here in .za :(13:24
BrightEyes`my web cam isnt showing the picture very good.ive seen a similar webcam working on windoze xp and it was fine.what can i do for that?13:24
BrightEyes`rand_acs: thank you13:24
seriekrockhey13:24
darkoxi downloaded one file into desktop but I can't find it? whats wrong?13:24
ksivajistdin do you remember that you create prozill.deb for me13:25
rand_acsBrightEyes`: I would just have a look around online, maybe search for your model + linux info13:25
stdinksivaji: yeah13:25
BrightEyes`rand_acs: aham13:25
rand_acsBrightEyes`: btw, that link stdin put down there fixes the Kopete bug13:25
ksivajistdin how to do that because i need .deb package for openchrome for guitsy13:26
stdin!packaging | ksivaji13:27
ubotuksivaji: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports13:27
ksivajistdin thanks13:27
seriekrock!codecs13:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:27
stdinksivaji: depending on the project your making, it can be quite straight forward or a bit complicated. the guys in #ubuntu-motu are great to ask for help13:27
rand_acswhat do you guys think of the new Dolphin btw?13:28
seriekrockits nice13:28
ksivajistdin i cant untar openchrome source available  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome here13:29
stdinksivaji: why? what happens?13:30
darkoxhow to create new user?13:30
BluesKajHowdy all :)13:30
ksivajistdin ark return some error13:30
ksivajidarkox system setting->user management13:31
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filosoficohello: I have a problem, could someone help me?13:32
stdinksivaji: packaging is really a command line thing, download the 3 file (.orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz and .dsc) then do "dpkg-source -x xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.dsc" to extract it13:32
rand_acsstdin: how do you get the x86_64 fix for that bug?13:32
ksivajistdin ok13:32
stdinrand_acs: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/304113:33
stdinrand_acs: opps, http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb13:33
rand_acsstdin: thanks mate13:34
Thonolani want to upgrade my system from feisty to gutsy and use this link http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade  but it still doesnt work and show me an upgrade option13:36
stdindid you enable "Pre release updates" ?13:37
Thonolanstdin: i have to translate it to german  i think so13:37
BluesKaj!ask | filosofico13:38
ubotufilosofico: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)13:38
stdinThonolan: after you enable that repository, you have to click Fetch Updates then Full Upgrade to install the newer version of adept13:38
ksivajistdin http://pastebin.com/m24a11a32 signature error13:38
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filosoficojust a moment, thanks13:39
stdinThonolan: the alternative is to press Alt-F2 and put in: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"       (quotes matter)13:39
Thonolanstdin thanks a lot13:40
rand_acsI must say GDebi seems really cool so far13:40
rand_acsThonolan: just note that didn't work for me13:40
ksivajistdin what to do now ?13:41
rand_acsrunning the script manually I saw quite a few errors, modules that was missing13:41
seriekrock!compiz13:41
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion13:41
stdinksivaji: the "xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz" seems wrong, it's the wrong size13:41
stdinksivaji: try re-downloading it from "http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151559/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357.orig.tar.gz"13:42
filosoficoI have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart. Which is the problem?13:42
ksivajistdin same error13:43
kowesixstdin: i installed mds2iso, but i have rly no clue how to use it -.-13:44
flak1wow,  running this from the livecd,   talking vid pidgeon13:44
stdinksivaji: does ls -l still show the size as "1433600" ?13:44
flak1flak1 = flake :)13:45
ksivaji-rw-r--r-- 1 sivaji sivaji 1433600 2007-10-20 18:12 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz13:45
stdinkowesix: open konqueror and put in  man:/mds2iso   for usage instructions13:45
Thonolanstdin thanks your hint was succesfully now upgrade start13:46
stdinksivaji: that's not what I get, remove it then use wget to download it "rm xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz  ; wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151559/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357.orig.tar.gz"13:46
stdinThonolan: great :)13:46
Thonolanstdin: wish me luck :)13:47
stdingood luck ;)13:47
kowesixirc://irc.freenode.net/ignus13:47
kowesixargh13:47
kowesixs13:47
Thonolani got an msg that canocial stop supprot a few things13:47
Thonolanstdin: is that ok ?13:47
stdinthose packages are in universe now13:47
Thonolanah ok13:47
Thonolanwow great support here13:47
origamanHi all, using fiest, sending files from my mobile to my laptop via bluetooth worked flawlessly. Now I've upgraded to gutsy and all I get is "Error" on my mobile (PDA phone running Windows Mobile 2003). Any ideas? Is this a known problem?13:48
B-Minushmm13:49
B-Minusthere seem to be a lot of bugs in compiz13:49
B-Minusi dont see the top bar at any window .. so i cant minimize etc ...13:50
B-Minusalso, sometimes i dont seem to have focus on a window13:50
stdindid you install "compiz-kde" ?13:50
B-Minusso i cant type13:50
B-Minusye13:50
B-Minushow do i start it then13:51
stdinhmm, try asking in #compiz-fusion13:51
B-Minusjust compiz --replace ?13:51
* stdin doesn't use compiz13:51
ksivajistdin dpkg-source: error: file xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz has size 9948 instead of expected 337013:51
B-Minuswhat do you mean13:51
Saiedorigaman: what is the error?13:51
stdinB-Minus: ask in the compiz channel #compiz-fusion13:52
B-Minustnx13:52
filosoficoHello to all. I have a big problem. I have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but turn OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart. Which is the problem?13:52
BluesKajwhere's the line in about:config on FF to enable it to open from links in Thunderbird ?13:52
stdinksivaji: that's very odd, when I download it (from the same link), the size is 24945013:52
origamanMy PDA shows only "Fehler" (i.e. "Error"). Typical Microsoft informative error message...13:53
ksivajistdin one second ya that one is correct other file return error13:53
ksivajis*13:53
queequegif my sources.list does not contain any reference to es.archive.ubuntu.com which is down, how come adept-manager keeps trying to connect (and getting stuck)???13:53
rand_acsdoesn't anyone else have this system tray bug when running compiz?13:53
combohave u ever had a problem with 'ldconfig deferred processing now taking place' during installation of some DEB packages ?13:53
rand_acswhere the icon get's displayed in it's own window?13:54
stdincombo: that's not a problem, that's by design13:54
origaman... and kubuntu doesn't show anything (there is the bluetooth icon in the system tray, but greyed out)13:54
stdinksivaji: ahh, yeah. I think the downloads are wrong somehow, try "rm xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.dsc" then "wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151560/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151561/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357-0ubuntu3.dsc"13:55
combostdin: so IF this is NOT an error why can't install DEB packages ? :] any ideas ?13:55
stdincombo: do you get an error?13:55
origamanSending files TO my mobile is working, though.13:55
combostdin: nope... there's nothing i get... just 'Processing triggers for libc6 ...' and also this with ldconfig deferred... and nothing happened :/ (kub-7.10)13:56
combostdin: before (on feisty) it worked fine13:56
ksivajidpkg-source: error: file xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz has size 9948 instead of expected 24945013:56
stdincombo: what package? and how do you know it's not installing?13:56
BrightEyes`in kopete my webcam doesnt !!! it recognises it but when i send to someone else my webcam he doesnt take anything.what can i do for that?13:57
combostdin: nerolinux 3.0.1.3. x86 [.deb] and it is probably not installing cuz there is NO nero :)13:57
stdinksivaji: strange13:57
combostdin: same version of nerolinux i've been installing many times on FEISTY13:58
patriziohello13:58
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queequegis there a way to avoid es.archive.ubuntu.com server while upgrading?13:58
patrizio could someone help me?13:58
origamanSaied: Did you get my answers? I'm new to IRC and didn't include your nickname...13:58
stdincombo: why are you installing nero, it's horrible13:58
combostdin: and what else can i use as well ? :)13:58
stdincombo: k3d13:58
combostdin: if u gimme any ideas, i change my mind :D13:58
combostdin: u mean k3B ?13:59
stdincombo: k3b < not k3d13:59
combostdin: right13:59
Saiedorigaman: im searching to find it13:59
origamanSaied: sorry...13:59
stdinksivaji: it works here when I wget the files...13:59
combostdin: this is installed by default... will try that... thanks for solution ;)13:59
filosoficodoes nobody know how to help me?14:00
Hamrahi, im installing feisty on a computer, and doing manual partitioning, how can i tell the program, that when i decrease the size of my windows partition, i want the free space to be put before the partition, not after it?14:00
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stdinksivaji: try this http://stdin.pastebin.us/4052514:01
patriziothere is an italian helper here?14:01
edouardco to jest?14:01
stdin!it14:01
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!14:02
ksivajistdin sorry for delay14:02
Saiedorigaman: sending from Linux to mobile is ok and reverse has problem means its the windoze job! :D any log? any message?14:03
AzzcoMy boot takes forever it says something about no resume image... Anyone else have this problem?14:03
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DexterF!evms14:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about evms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:03
seriekrockis firestarer still the best gui for firewall, and clamav for antivirus?14:03
ksivajigpg: Can't check signature: public key not found14:03
DexterFok, who else has the "evms hogs disks on gutsy upgrade" issue and what can I do to prevent it in the first place?14:04
Carnage\ksivaji: Download the respective key from a key server first...14:04
stdinksivaji: that's ok, as long as there's no other error14:04
ksivajiCarnage/ stdin how to get the key14:05
kowesixwhen i want to mount a selfcreated iso, there's an error called: mount: not a directory -.-14:05
Saiedkowesix: for mounting iso use -o loop14:06
origamanSaied: Well, since I changed my Linux and didn't touch my Windows Mobile, I strongly believe it's a Linux problem... Something with obex server and kbluetooth, but I don't know where to look for messages (/var/log/messages doesn't contain anything other than hal_device_added() entries for my USB bluetooth dongle)14:06
kowesixSaied: error comes when i use 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /media/iso/'14:06
stdinksivaji: see the line above it, with "KEY ID 80DF6D58". you use that with "gpg --recv-keys 80DF6D58" then "gpg --export -a 80DF6D58 | sudo apt-key add - " but you don't have to do that if you don't want14:06
kristjan_kubuntuforums.net is down?14:07
vltHello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?14:07
Saiedkowesix: dont use -t iso9660. if the result is the same iso maybe corrupted14:09
kowesixkay, same result.. iso corrupted :p14:10
BluesKajwhat happened to kmail ... that silly kontact proggy is a PITA14:10
Saiedorigaman: maybe it is a bug! send it too kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com14:10
ksivajistdin ya ok i got new folder with some file14:11
stdin!bug | bugs should be reported to launchpad14:11
ubotubugs should be reported to launchpad: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots14:11
Saiedkowesix: md5sum it and compare it with that one on the site14:11
Hamrahow can i get "parted" to resize ntfs partitions?14:11
stdinksivaji: that's the package, now you need to create the deb from it14:11
vltBluesKaj: KMail is one element of kontact you can run standalone,too.14:12
SaiedHamra: install ntfsprogs package! it is not safe for ntfs yet14:12
Hamrai'll try my luck, thnx14:12
kaminixAnyone here know how to fix SCIM/SKIM related problems?14:13
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origamanSaied: Well, it seems to be... I just found this: http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=31754 Kubuntu uses the 1.0 beta8, too. Why the * are they using so much beta software (the bluetooth problem isn't the only one I have with gutsy. Fiesty was working so much better, so I begin thinking about a complete downgrade. Never change a running system...)14:15
hyphenexI'm having problems with Kubuntu.  I've installed it in a virtual machine, then when it boots, I get a spinny thing, then X crashes.  running startx from a terminal gives me "AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable"14:15
seriekrockif i have static ip, i shouldnt mark dhcp in firestarer, right?14:15
Saiedorigaman: you can get source of feisty packages and rebuild and repackage them, dont downgrade14:16
kblinhi folks14:16
Angeluswhere can i get KDE headers from?14:16
seriekrockyo14:16
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origamanSaied: Are there any instructions how to do that (e.g. in the wiki)?14:16
stdinAngelus: install "kde-devel"14:17
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Saiedhyphenex: use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set driver to that is suitable for you14:17
AngelusOK stdin :p i new it14:17
hyphenexSaied: hmm.  Maybe there is another parallels configuration I can try before I have to start getting technical if it's a drivers issue14:17
bignallHi.  I'm trying to update from Feisty to Gutsy, but the updater keeps showing the following messages:14:19
bignallFailed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found14:19
bignallFailed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found14:19
bignallWhat can I do to fix the problem?14:19
SaiedAngelus: use packages with -dev extensions14:19
kblinso, what's going to bow up in my face if I upgrade to gutsy? :)14:21
Saiedorigaman: instructions to what?14:22
Saiedhyphenex: i dont think, reconfigure it and rerun gdm using /etc/init.d/gdm restart14:22
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origamanSaied: instructions to getting, rebuilding and repackaging source packages from fiesty for gutsy.14:24
hyphenexSaied: reconfigure it with what exactly?14:24
Saiedorigaman: download source packages with apt-get source -t feisty <packagename>14:25
Saiedorigaman: go to its direcotry and change dependencies in debian/control file and repackage it with fakeroot debian/rules binary , package will be created in ..14:26
buz!d3lphin14:27
ubotudolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.14:27
BrightEyes`i cant configure my web cam using the new amsn.i get into Account>Preferences>Others>Audio & Video Settings and in the drop down list i can see my webcam but it cant be selected.what can i do?14:28
hyphenexGarrrgh, I've given up14:30
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NLguyNLhello?14:31
NLguyNLwho speak english?14:32
slaiderhola14:32
NLguyNLhi14:32
hyphenexDoes anybody have Kubuntu running under Parallels14:33
origamanSaied: ... yes?14:34
h3sp4wn!tell hyphenex about anyone14:34
ubuntu_ohana!14:35
jonasbhi all, i just upgraded to gutsy, and since kopete crashes with msn i tried pidgin out.  but the sound isn't working in pidgin.  any hints?14:36
bignallCan anyone help me.  What do I do about these errors when upgrading to gutsy:14:37
bignallFailed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found14:37
bignallFailed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found14:37
stdinremove the unofficial repos for now14:37
ubuntu_anyone else have promise "fasttrack" raid14:37
darkoxi have installed firefox (terminam). how I can launch it? there it usually istall?14:38
bignallAhh... okay, I'll try that.  thanks.14:38
filosoficoHello to all. I have a big problem. I have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but turn OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart.14:39
filosoficoUPDATE: The system communicates that the screen is still still closed when instead it has been open. Is it a bug? Is it possible to understand with which system manage the closing of the screen? Is it possible to resolve to hand the problem?14:39
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hyphenexI can't get kubuntu to boot in Parallels desktop.  I just get a blank boot screen looking thing (with the loaded on the right hand side)14:43
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sam1337When I try to rename my volume group with "sudo vgrename Debian vg0" I get the message " Volume group "Debian" still has active LVs" how do I get around this?14:45
code_man65Hey, anyone in here good with Cedega problems?14:45
sam1337code_man65 what's the problem?14:45
code_man65Cannot install fonts on Kubuntu 7.10 x86_6414:45
code_man65Give me a moment and I'll paste the error from the log file14:46
Daisuke_Idothat's something you should contact cedega about14:46
sam1337Dosen't cedega offer technical support?14:47
Daisuke_Idoalthough their fork of wine is woefully behind the mainline version now14:47
code_man65I'm in their channel, no one appears to be awake14:47
tekteenanyone know where the install program is on the live cd?14:48
sam1337lol14:48
Kanuhaneed help setting up wireless. already enabled restricted drivers and firmware, and installed ndiswrapper with inf files, but I cannot see my network14:48
tekteenwhat comes up14:48
sam1337tekteen is there not an install icon as a desktop icon?14:48
tekteenno14:49
tekteenthat is created during boot14:49
tekteensam1337: The user and desktop is created during boot14:49
sam1337reboot the live cd then?14:50
tekteen???14:50
tekteenI am not brite14:50
tekteenlol14:50
tekteenty14:50
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sam1337When I try to rename my volume group with "sudo vgrename Debian vg0" I get the message " Volume group "Debian" still has active LVs" how do I get around this?14:51
pablo-vivaHi all14:51
sam1337Heya!14:51
h3sp4wnsam1337: Is / on the lvm ?14:51
Lidowho is doing scouting?14:52
sam1337h3sp4wn: yes14:52
h3sp4wnsam1337: use something like grml to rename it then14:52
pablo-vivaI have an issue with Kopete on Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon and I wanted to check if it was only me or it was a bug on Kubuntu or Kopete 3.5.814:52
sam1337h3sp4wn: grml?14:52
sam1337h3sp4wn: Is it easy to use?14:53
h3sp4wn!grml14:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:53
nicolai_!ask | pablo-viva14:53
ubotupablo-viva: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)14:53
stdinpablo-viva: using MSN ?14:54
h3sp4wnsam1337: well you boot it and then do /etc/init.d/lvm2 start14:54
pablo-vivayeah using MSN stdin14:54
hyphenexI can't get my Kubuntu live CD to start.  X fails to start (I'm running through a VM)14:54
stdinpablo-viva: see http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/304114:54
pablo-vivaI tried with Yahoo Messenger and it works14:54
h3sp4wnsam1337: then you can rename it - http://www.grml.org14:54
pablo-vivathanks I will look at that14:54
sam1337h3sp4wn: then a simple "vgrename Debian vg0" would do the trick?14:54
h3sp4wnsam1337: Yes14:55
sam1337h3sp4wn: ok thanks for your help.14:55
h3sp4wnsam1337: With the root being on it there is no other way I can think of (usually you could drop to single user mode and do it)14:55
pablo-vivastdin thanks, do you happen to know if this is a patch i must install on top of kopete or should I remove my actual kopete and install this .deb instaead14:56
stdinpablo-viva: just install the package, you don't have to remove anything14:56
pablo-vivaok thanks stdin14:56
ashfaqInstalled Kubuntu gutsy as dual boot, can't find my ntfs drives, how do I access and make them read/write14:57
stdin!ntfs14:58
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse14:58
hyphenexI can't get my Kubuntu live CD to start.  X fails to start (I'm running through a VM)14:58
h3sp4wnhyphenex: Use the alternative and do a server install15:00
h3sp4wnhyphenex: Install X latert15:00
stdinthe alternate cd installs a desktop system, no need to install X after15:01
lido01heey15:01
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h3sp4wnstdin: But comes polutted with tons of garbage15:01
h3sp4wnpolluted*15:02
stdinh3sp4wn: the alternate cd installs exactly the same system as the desktop cd15:02
poison--mornin guys15:02
h3sp4wnstdin: but you can select a cli install from the menu15:02
code_man65Thanks for the ia32 thing15:02
code_man65They weren't installed by default15:02
h3sp4wnstdin: which is what I am suggesting15:02
hyphenexahh, I should have just downloaded that one then!15:02
Rosanneheeyz15:03
QwertyMwhat's the repository am supposed to add for the Opera browser?15:06
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kaminixWhat should I start a script with in order to make sure the user has root priviligies?15:09
feierfoxhello15:09
srcnixHi all15:09
feierfoxneed a check-sum of kubuntu 7.10 desktop i38615:09
feierfoxmd515:09
stdin!md5sum15:09
ubotuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more15:09
srcnixI was wondering if someone can help me. I am using Kubuntu 7.10 and trying to access my removable storage. When I access it, it shows no files. On my Windows box it does. Any thoughts?15:10
srcnixThe error I get is: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options15:10
feierfoxthanks! d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c15:10
stdinQwertyM: "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner"15:11
QwertyMstdin: thank you, found it in the default sources.list and uncommented it :)15:11
feierfoxah!15:11
feierfoxKubuntu isnt listed there! :O15:11
feierfoxhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes15:11
feierfoxno kubuntu :(15:11
nicolai_feierfox: http://ls.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/MD5SUMS15:12
stdinfeierfox: from where you got the ISO, look at the "MD5SUMS" file15:12
feierfoxah15:12
feierfoxok15:12
flakei have a ntfs drive with older copy of xp on it and a bunch of stuff I want to save, can i make it writeable and back stuff up to it from other harddrives15:12
feierfoxi had it from torrent15:12
stdinkaminix: something like 'if [ "$(id -u)" -ne "0" ]; then echo "you aren't root"; fi'15:13
feierfox!dkgp15:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dkgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:14
feierfox!dkpg15:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:14
feierfoxhmmm15:14
kaminixstdin: Will "sudo echo 'You are now root ;)'" work? :p15:14
feierfoxhow to "force" pakets to install?15:14
stdinkaminix: why would you need that? just run the script with sudo15:15
kaminixstdin: But I might forget to run it with sudo sometimes, and that's no good. :)15:15
stdinkaminix: then you make it say "run me with sudo"15:16
kaminixHmm... good idea.15:17
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LiL-JoNhow come everytime i start up i have to reload my superkaramba themes?15:20
Hamrafinally i got my hard disk partitioned the way i like it. i didnt like those ntfsresize commands or parted, partition magic from power quest is still my favorite application for the job, and the most trusted!15:20
waylandbill__!dpkg | feierfox15:20
ubotufeierfox: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.15:20
waylandbill__(that's what you meant to get from ubotu I'm sure)15:21
PupenoHow can I check if my mic is working?15:21
LiL-JoNwaylandbill__: can you help me?15:21
feierfoxwith your voice, Pupeno15:21
Pupenofeierfox: he-he-he.15:22
srcnixGot it working ;)15:22
srcnixHow does one play MP3's from Amarok thought ;)15:22
Pupeno!mp3 | srcnix15:23
ubotusrcnix: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:23
Angelusdid someone fix the boot up splash bug yet ??15:23
martoyasrcnix: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs15:23
Pupenoreally, is there some vumeter to see if I'm getting any audio or not?15:23
LiL-JoNwhat was the bug Angelus15:23
martoyasrcnix: but first you need activate the multiverse repo15:24
srcnixThanks guys, will have a look at the link :)15:24
Thonolanrehi15:24
n1lohi sirs15:24
AngelusLiL-JoN: the monitor turns off instead of bootup splash, on all resolutions (i tried about 5different settings)15:24
kaminixWill I see cool stuff when installing KDE 4 Beta 3 or will it still be all broken like Beta 2 was?15:24
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LiL-JoNthats for like a laptop? Angelus15:24
Thonolanmy update from 7.04 to 7.10 broke15:24
Angelusno its not a laptop LiL-JoN15:25
Thonolannow icant use adept15:25
LiL-JoNAngelus: oh15:25
Thonolanhttp://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/968115:25
sebastian^hmmm strange Thonolan15:26
Thonolanif u use sudo dpkg --configure -a15:26
Thonolanno hope to fix that ?15:26
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BluesKajanyone running the new ATI prprietary 8.41 driver on Gutsy 64bit ?15:27
sebastian^yes me BluesKaj15:27
kapahtuhhallao everybody,can anyone help me install games on kubuntu?15:27
LiL-JoNhow come everytime i start up i have to reload my superkaramba themes?15:28
BluesKajsebastian^, are you also running google earth  ?15:28
sebastian^Thonolan: there's always hope, but for the moment i don't know how to fix this :-/15:28
sebastian^no sorry BluesKaj, are there any problems with ge?15:28
ArtimusHas anyone been able to fix the Gutsy KDM theme?  When I boot, first it draws the login box, then a second later, it draws the nice pretty "Kubuntu" borders around it.  I don't care for the user list at all, but if it has to be there, it could at least render properly.15:28
Thonolansebastian^: ok15:28
BluesKajsebastian^, well I'm running the default gutsy driver (8.37 I think) but GE doesn't launch altho fgl_glxgears , 3D and DRI are all ok15:29
wpkAfter upgrading do 7.10, brightness keys (fn-f7/f8) on my laptop (hp pavilion dv6150) stopped working. Brightness control through control panel works well tho15:30
kapahtuhhow to upgrade to 7.10?15:30
LiL-JoNcan somebody help me superkaramba? Everytime i start reboot i have to reload all of my superkaramba themes and that ticks me off cause i have alot of them.15:30
sebastian^kapahtuh: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade15:31
LiL-JoNkapahtuh: this isnt a search box15:31
kapahtuhdanke schon )15:31
sebastian^hmm ok BluesKaj15:31
sebastian^kapahtuh: ;)15:31
RytmenPinnenare there any recommended unofficial repos with stuff like flash and stuff?15:32
LiL-JoNi think i'm going to reinstall 7.10 since i think i customized it a little to much15:32
Angeluswhat did you do to it LiL-JoN?15:33
LiL-JoNAngelus: i made it the way i liked it and now nothing really works right15:34
naegling23hey, im having an issue, I have the old version of adept (from edgy) and because of this, I cant upgrade to gutsy...how can I get the newer adept?15:34
LiL-JoNAngelus: my firefox crashes when i want to watch mpeg video15:34
Hamrai connect internet to this computer by LAN from a WinXP PC, and i enabled disconnecting by other computers, is there a way to disconnect from kubuntu?15:34
Angelus:O15:34
LiL-JoNAngelus: compiz doesn't work well its really choppy15:34
Angelushmm15:34
Angeluscompiz-fusion works fine here LiL-JoNl15:35
Angelus:p15:35
LiL-JoNAngelus: well it worked great in the begining15:35
Angelusand, have you tried to use konqueror to view those movies instead of firefox?15:35
BluesKajnaegling23, you can't upgrade from edgy to gutsy without breaking apps ...upgrade to feisty first then to gutsy15:35
miirluu15:35
LiL-JoNAngelus: yes but i dont like konqueror15:35
* feierfox will leave now15:36
feierfoxbooting the 7.10 live-cd15:36
miirGoodluck15:36
LiL-JoNAngelus: i think reinstall is best15:36
naegling23buleskaj, i am running feisty though, for some reason adept-manager (version 2.1) looks the same as the one under edgy, and not the way its supposed to look under feisty15:36
Azzconaegling23: What do you mean by that?15:37
kaminixWhy do I need kde4base-dev in order to run kde4 b3?15:37
ImpaledOnRebarhow can I split tarball archives like rar?15:37
miirAm I the only one having problems with broadcom wireless adapter , USB-disk detection and kopete ?15:37
LiL-JoNAngelus: when im back do you want to help me get up and running with the stuff i should install15:37
LiL-JoNAngelus: it would be kool :]15:37
naegling23azzco, when I open manage repositories, I get the old way of handling them, and that means I cant check off the upgrade distro part15:37
Azzconaegling23: You might need to install software-properties-kde15:38
dhqdoes kbluetooth support handsfree15:38
naegling23azzco, thats it, thanks for the help15:39
AzzcoNP naegling23: Someone helped me with that some days ago aswell ;)15:39
naegling23azzco, thats weird, i dont know how that got missed in the last upgrade, oh well15:40
ONeill|chillHello, i've got a question. i hope someone can help me. i want to install ubuntu. currently i booted the live version and if i click on the install button on the desktop. the programm loads a few seconds and then quit. what could be wrong?15:40
Angelusthe gutsy dvd image is finally out!15:41
wpkONeill|chill: are you sure you have correct (as in correctly downloaded/not scratched) CD?15:41
Angelusim gonna download it!15:41
ONeill|chillyes15:41
ONeill|chilli got an error on syslog15:42
ONeill|chillOct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231922] SQUASHFS error: zlib_inflate returned unexpected result 0xfffffffd, srclength 65536, avail_in 0, avail_out 015:42
ONeill|chillOct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231931] SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block 0x49a0615:42
ONeill|chillOct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231941] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 1267ae86, size 6c8e15:42
ONeill|chillsorry for the 3 line paste15:42
dhqONeill|chill, !pastebin15:42
dhq!pastebin ONeill|chill15:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebin oneill - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:42
dhq!pastebin15:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:42
ONeill|chillk15:42
ONeill|chillsorry, next time15:42
AzzcoCould someone help me, My booting is extremly slow and complains about no resume image or something...15:43
kaminixWhy is my computer using 495MB swap?15:43
TimSI cannot login to my samba share from another PC, it asks for a username and password but none of the accounts I have assinged to it work15:44
Azzcokaminix: What did you set it to? 512?15:44
ONeill|chillwhat could that be? maybe memory broken?15:44
osh_Hmm, my vmware-server stopped working after upgrade to gutsy. Probably kernel modules mismatch. Anyone got a solution?15:44
kaminixAzzco: No, I have 996MB swap. But having 485MB used is worrying.15:46
AT0M1CB0MB3RHow do I register my nickname?15:46
frank__Can I get gutsy support here?15:46
dhqwell anyone here who uses bluetooth15:46
kaminixAzzco: Also having 381MB RAM used is... well... not sure actually.15:47
stdin!register | AT0M1CB0MB3R15:47
ubotuAT0M1CB0MB3R: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration15:47
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AT0M1CB0MB3RThanks stdin!! :]15:47
flatsNoob question, when I install a program via apt-get or synaptic where does the actual executable go?  For instance If I run kvirc2 it opens but if I want to make a shortcut, where would I find it?15:49
osh_Hmm, how do I install things that I probably have in my apt-cache?15:49
waylandbill__flats: /usr/bin15:49
stdinflats: most go in /usr/bin15:49
flatswhy thank you15:50
Tatewakihmm15:50
Tatewakiit's true for apt-get but the bin can also be located other places15:51
AT0M1CB0MB3R /msg nickserv set unfiltered on15:51
Tatewakilike my crossoveroffice bin is in /opt/cxoffice/bin15:51
stdinAT0M1CB0MB3R: always use the server tab ;)15:51
AT0M1CB0MB3Rstdin: lol sorry15:52
waylandbill__flats: you can use dpkg -c to view the contents of a package. Example is that dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/adept-manager_2.1.3ubuntu17_i386.deb  tells me that it has /usr/bin/adept-manager inside it.15:52
AT0M1CB0MB3Rstdin: I didn't know i pressed space bar. :[15:52
stdinwaylandbill__, flats: "dpkg -L Package" is easier15:52
TatewakiAT0M1CB0MB3R, just be warrend i ahve done that trick with my password for my nickname hehe :)15:52
stdinAT0M1CB0MB3R: at least it wasn't your password15:52
waylandbill__Tatewaki: debian packages have to follow a certain standard and one is that executables belong in /usr/bin.15:53
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Tatewakiwaylandbill__, true, but cxoffice is not a package in the ubuntu reprosite15:53
Tatewakiit's however a deb package i used15:54
stdinhe asked about apt-get/synaptic, so we gave the answer for that15:54
Tatewakiyeah i know i also said that :)15:54
Tatewaki<Tatewaki> it's true for apt-get15:54
waylandbill__Tatewaki: I could build a source package and put it anywhere with a configure switch, so technically they can be anywhere. I agree. I think the question was originally referring to official binary packages though.15:55
dhqwhich would be the best repos mirror where all updates are present15:55
Tatewakitrue waylandbill__15:55
flatsWow I upgraded and everything actually works.....Someone pinch me...15:55
stdindhq: the main one, but that can be slow sometimes (as all other mirrors sync from it)15:55
* Tatewaki pinch flats 15:55
flatsOUCH15:55
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flatsyep It's true15:56
Tatewakihmm no fun then15:56
dhqstdin, well i deleted my repos searching for new ones could you link me15:56
flatsOK neone familiar with the 915resolution program?15:56
Tatewakii always get bored when my system works perfekt15:56
flatsThats actually how I feel right now15:56
stdindhq: the main repo is http://archive.ubuntu.com15:57
stdin!source-o-matic15:57
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic15:57
waylandbillgives more time for actually using the system for something even more fun. :)15:57
dhqstdin, thanks15:57
Kr4t05Well...15:57
Tatewakii just don't really know what that should be waylandbill :)15:57
Kr4t05The upgrade tool isn't working for me... :/15:57
dhqstdin, you use bluetooth15:57
stdinnope15:58
Kr4t05It gets to the point where it installs new packages and the it closes out.15:58
Tatewakidebugging and finding new ways of using the system is a lot of fun for me15:58
Kr4t05No errors or anything.15:58
flatsI'm sitting here trying to figure out what I can do with the system.  Any good network troubleshooting tools?15:58
Tatewakiwireshark15:59
flatsI have that15:59
Tatewakiplay with hping315:59
flatshey anyone running KDE 4.0?15:59
flatsthe beta15:59
Tatewakinope not yet15:59
flatsI can't get that to install15:59
waylandbillTatewaki: maybe you need to learn system development then,15:59
Tatewakii should try to play with that15:59
kaminixI'm installing the KDE 4 Beta atm. ^^ flats15:59
stdinflats: helps if you say why toy can't install it15:59
bentob0xanybody can tell me how to enable compiz on 7.10 please?16:00
stdins/toy/you/16:00
flatsI'm a linux noob.  I'm not up on compiling packages.16:00
stdin!compiz | bentob0x16:00
ubotubentob0x: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion16:00
Tatewakiwaylandbill, i play with some bash scripting right now so it's not that i can't do anything but play with my system, i just find it to be more funny16:00
stdinflats: there are packages, see the topic16:00
Jucatowb stdin! I missed you for about 24 hours :)16:01
flatswow thanks stdin16:01
flatson my way16:01
stdinJucato: I had router problems, seems to have sorted itself tho :p16:01
Jucatogood16:01
Kr4t05I'm trying to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy, using the instructions linked to from the topic, and the upgrade works fine up until the point when it tries to install the new packages. Then, it quits. No errors, or anything. Should I just go into Adept and upgrade that way?16:01
Tatewakicompiling your own packages is nice but it can be a hell keeping track of16:01
Jucatoflats: I would really recommend that you don't play with the KDE 4 packages yet....16:01
bentob0xthx for the help stdin16:02
Jucatoflats: unless you're really super curious and prepared not to be amazed16:02
Jucato(a.k.a. a wee bit disappointed)16:02
kaminixCould anyone help me with this Scim/Skim/Anthy problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3579679&postcount=2216:02
h3sp4wnJucato: did you try amarok 2 yet ? (How stable is it)16:03
Jucatoh3sp4wn: it's.. um.. usable, if you don't mind not seeing what you're playing :)16:03
JucatoI like the new look though.. it's unique, new, and refreshing... :)16:03
Tatewakii have a hard time believing that they can make amarok anymore nice then its16:04
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Kr4t05Well... Being ignored really does help me figure out my problem. :/16:04
installationrl!codecs16:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:04
kaminix!xim16:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:04
h3sp4wnTatewaki: Yeah but its alot easier to build kde4 on solaris than 3.5.816:04
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installationrlwhat problem Kr4t05?16:05
Tatewakiwired h3sp4wn16:05
lexaпривет16:05
Mr_GrievesI'm trying to upgrade a feisty install to gutsy over ssh...is there a CLI way to do this?16:05
Tatewakithe normal way Mr_Grieves16:05
lexaу кого-нибудь возникает проблема с погасание экрана при загрузке 7,1016:05
h3sp4wnMr_Grieves: use aptitude16:05
Tatewakinothing is changed just because it's over ssh16:05
QwertyM!russian | lexa16:05
ubotulexa: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke16:05
installationrlps: use screen.16:05
AT0M1CB0MB3Rlexa: Wow wrong channel buddy16:06
Tatewakiyou just need to use the commandline16:06
Kr4t05installationrl: I'm trying to upgrade Feisty to Gutsy, and the upgrade tool seems to crash whenever it gets to the step where it installs the new packages.16:06
kaminix!skim16:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:06
kaminix!scim16:06
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM16:06
osh_What does a "c" mean when I do an "aptitude search foo"16:06
kaminix!xim16:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:06
osh_It shows as "c foo"16:06
Mr_GrievesOk. I'll get to reading some man pages. Everything I've seen says to use Adept in the gui. Thanks :)16:06
installationrlKr4t05: what's it output to console?16:06
Jucatoosh_: it mean it has been uninstalled, but not purged (config files in /etc still remain)16:06
Kr4t05installationrl: I'm not sure how to run the upgrade tool via console16:07
lovrehi al16:07
osh_Jucato: Thanks. I did look in apt and aptitude man-files but didn't see anything about it there.16:07
AT0M1CB0MB3Rsudo apt-get upgrade?16:07
osh_Jucato: Just to show that I'm not the lazy bastard I appear to be. ;-)16:07
AT0M1CB0MB3RKr4t05: sudo apt-get upgrade?16:07
Kr4t05installationrl: I can start up adept, but when I click "Version Upgrade" adept closes out and starts up the upgrader.16:07
installationrlKr4t05: That's funny, I don't really know how people do it using a gooey. :)16:08
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: hey it's LiL-JoN.16:08
Kr4t05AT0M1CB0MB3R: I've been told that it's easy to break things with apt-get?16:08
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: yo16:08
Kr4t05I used to upgrade with APT in previous releases, but I wanted to see how much better the GUI upgrade would go.16:08
AT0M1CB0MB3RKr4t05: not really never broke for me and you can always fix them16:08
jesse__hello; I just upgraded to gutsy and now my KDE windows are not repainting (and are thus unusable). anyone have debugging suggestions?16:08
installationrlwell you need to be producing details of a problem before you know what's gone wrong :)16:09
installationrlbut you knew that :D16:09
* osh_ is a little annoyed that gutsy broke vmware. I need vmware for work on monday. :-/16:09
mauri_i'm not able to upgrading kubuntu to version 7.1016:09
flatsHmm I don't seem to have a kde4 directory under /usr/lib16:09
osh_It's my only windows. :-(16:09
installationrlfeisty broke vmware too, tbf.16:09
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: can you help me? with everytime i start up with super karamba i have to reload all of my themes (and thats alot lol)16:09
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: not really an SK guy...16:09
Kr4t05osh_: You probably need to recompile your VMware drivers? That happens with any kernel upgrade.16:09
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: ok16:10
h3sp4wnosh_: which version of vmware ?16:10
Kr4t05s/drivers/modules16:10
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: should i just reinstall im on the live cd right now16:10
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: but you will most probably have to put a link to each SK theme in ~/.kde/Autostart16:10
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: um.. why reinstall? just for superkaramba?16:10
installationrlpfft, it's not as if they would build on feisty w/o intervention.16:10
osh_Kr4t05: Yeah. Except that I removed it to reinstall it (as per a suggestion on ubuntu-forums) and now I can't get it back. :-/16:10
flatshow do I find a file?  I need to find startkde16:10
osh_h3sp4wn: vmware server16:10
osh_flats: locate file16:11
installationrllocate filename16:11
Kr4t05osh_: You ever try VirtualBox?16:11
mweicherthi! I have a ubuntu installation but want to try KDE. In synaptic, I see there is a metapackage called 'kde' at version 5:xx. Isn't the latest kde version only at 4?16:11
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: not just for super karamba a bunch of stuff i customized my kubuntu too much and now nothing works right16:11
osh_Kr4t05: nope. what is it?16:11
installationrlvirtualbox lacks stuff16:11
Kr4t05osh_: If you have the option, you could try that.16:11
installationrlfor instance, its USB support sucks.16:11
QwertyMJucato: Thanks for that KDM resolution fix on UF by the way .. just encountered it. :)16:11
Kr4t05installationrl: Newer versions fix that.16:11
h3sp4wnosh_: I am using workstation its working fine here16:11
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: after this install i don't think im going to mess with it any more besides get it the way i like it to look then im done16:11
h3sp4wnosh_: (custom 2.6.23 kernel)16:11
JucatoQwertyM: np16:12
Kr4t05installationrl: I heard a review for the latest version on the Linux Action Show16:12
h3sp4wn!info vmware-package16:12
ubotuPackage vmware-package does not exist in gutsy16:12
installationrlKr4t05: Forgive me if I remain skeptical on that one til I see it working :)16:12
installationrlI will give it a spin though when I get time16:12
h3sp4wnosh_: If you I would build debian's vmware package (makes deb's for all vmware stuff)16:12
Kr4t05installationrl: Of course. :)16:12
flatshow do I "start a new session in KDM with KDE 4."16:12
osh_Problem is that I have a vmware image with windows and all work-related programs on it, so unless virtualbox plays vmware images I relly need vmware.16:12
h3sp4wnosh_: Then if it does stop working you can use vmware-any-any easily16:13
flatsyou can get the vmware player if you already have the vmx file16:13
jesse__mweichert: just install the kubuntu-desktop package; the '5' is a kubuntu-specific version number16:13
Jucatoflats: the instructions are on the release announcement page16:13
mauri_i'm not able to upgrading kubuntu to version 7.1016:13
osh_wwhat's the diff between the server and the player then?16:13
kaminixWhen I try to enter "enter support for complex characters" in KDEs language/regional settings it is not checked when I press OK and look again.16:13
mweichertjesse_ hmm, okay - though I'm very interested in trying kde 416:13
flatsjucato:  I did all that, the last line is start a new session in KDM with KDE 4.16:13
flatsHow do I start a new kde session?  restart my computer?16:14
osh_flats: ctrl-alt-backspace16:14
osh_flats: kills X.16:14
khumba-yomauri_ : what happened?16:14
* flats is scared16:14
flatsafriad nothing will come back16:14
Thonolanis there any option to downgrade my adept frm 7.10 back to my 7.04?16:15
Jucatoflats: that's why I didn't recommend that you be so daring to try out KDE 4 *beta* 316:15
flatsOK here goes.  brb ...I Hope......16:15
mauri_khumba-yo: adept-manager say me that a new 7.10 kubuntu version is available16:15
Jucatoflats: don't worry though, the way Kubuntu made the packages, nothing should break16:15
flatshehe but then where's the fun16:15
Jucatoflats: just logout16:15
mauri_khumba-yo: i clicked yes but16:15
Thonolanmy upgrade break ...16:15
osh_I tried to download the old vmware-server deb but it doesn't install the dependancies.16:15
lovrei was trying to upgrade to 7.10, and i updated from adept manager. but i didnt get any wizards, and i dont know if i upgraded or not. How do i check?16:15
mauri_khumba-yo: after same minutes it says:Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)16:15
Thonolannow adept or apt-get wont work16:15
jesse__mweichert : not sure if you have to kave kubuntu-desktop in order to try kde4.  kubuntu.org has instructions on trying kde4 which may or may not require kubuntu-desktop16:15
jesse__khumba-yo : they renamed the commercial repository to 'partner'16:16
mweichertjesse_ any idea what the release date is for kde4?16:16
lovrei was trying to upgrade to 7.10, and i updated from adept manager. but i didnt get any wizards, and i dont know if i upgraded or not. How do i check?16:16
khumba-yomauri_ - is your /etc/apt/sources.list modified to gutsy instead of feisty?16:16
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jesse__mweichert : Real Soon Now. maybe for 8.04?16:16
Jucatolovre: did you follow the instructions step by step?16:17
AT0M1CB0MB3Rso Jucatodo you think i should reinstall whats your opinion im on the format page and i dont know if i should do it16:17
Jucatolovre: and don't repeat your question every minute16:17
flatswell still KDE 3.5.816:17
lovreJucato: ok, sorry, and yes i did16:17
osh_mweichert: december. don't remember the exact date.16:17
installationrlI'm still not using upgrades for OSes that aren't Debian16:17
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: not really sure if you should. not knowing what state your system is in16:17
installationrland I mean straight, plain debian16:17
mauri_khumba-yo: i dont know16:17
flatshmmmm16:17
boubbinmy kaffeine aint playing divx in gutsy, how come ?16:17
Chousukehm16:17
Jucatoflats: you will have to choose the KDE 4 from the Session menu in the login screen16:18
flatsoh darn, thanks jucato16:18
installationrlI've never found in-place upgrades worth the hassle in any other os.16:18
ChousukeMy irssi had somehow gotten stuck in the backlog at yesterday 22:0016:18
flatsbrb  again16:18
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: its not that bad but i really dont know how to fix any thing16:18
khumba-yomauri_ - then u should check it out or even change it - then upgrade your system in the console... ;)16:18
Chousuketook me three minutes to scroll it to the present :P16:18
armadillosalve, c'e' in linea qualche italiano?16:18
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: but this week im getting a bash command handbook16:18
Jucato!it | armadillo16:18
ubotuarmadillo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:18
khumba-yomauri_ - just replace all "feisty" with "gutsy" in sources.list16:19
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: good luck :)16:19
installationrlAT0M1CB0MB3R: have you considered getting the interweb? :)16:19
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: if you really want to learn, I'd suggest you try to learn how to fix what's broken first16:19
mauri_khumba-yo: sorry, i dont remember where to find souce list file16:19
lovreJucato: ok, now im getting an error16:19
osh_mauri_: /etc/apt/sources.list16:19
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: so i shouldn't reinstall?16:19
khumba-yomauri_ - ^^16:19
mauri_osh_: thanks i've just find it16:20
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: my opinion. yes. learn first before reinstall... unless you want the easy way out :)16:20
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: i think your right im gonna restart and try to fix my comp16:20
khumba-yomauri_ - dont forget to sudo ... ;)16:20
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbrb16:20
osh_Hmm, no vmware server and no vmware player in gutsy. :-(16:20
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mauri_khumba-yo: they are already gutsy16:20
LjLosh_: oh, that's true. well there is virtualbox though16:21
khumba-yomauri_ - good, then you can log off from your gui and log in on the console, lets say ctrl-alt-F216:21
JucatoLjL: has the problem w/ virtualbox been fixed though?16:22
khumba-yo.. then sudo apt-get update16:22
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JucatoI mean in the repos16:22
LjLJucato: which problem?16:22
khumba-yo..then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:22
JucatoLjL: it needs kernel modules16:22
flatswell KDE4 is runningbut no icons or programs16:22
Jucatowhich wasn't packaged earlier16:22
flatsanyone else have that problem?16:22
Jucatoflats: like I said, it's not exactly something for a newbie to get into16:22
LjLJucato: ah, i haven't tried, but i thought they'd get that set up for final. i do distinctly recall getting new modules from apt... let me see16:22
Jucatoflats: and not everyone is trying to run a *BETA* release16:23
LjLJucato: it should be fine16:23
khumba-yomauri_ - this should work quite good but it lasts maybe 1 or 2 hours...16:23
flatsOh I thought it was somewhat complete.  Beta usually means it's ready except for bugs16:23
JucatoLjL: ah yes I see the packages now :)16:23
flatsthis is nowhere close16:23
Jucatoflats: not really. you should read the release announcements first :)16:23
Jucatoflats: right-click on the desktop -> Log Out16:23
ToHellWithGAis there a theme for kde similar to metacity's "human" theme?16:23
ToHellWithGAi'm kinda partial to the brown colors16:24
Jucatoflats: you can actually also right-click on the desktop -> Run command16:24
Jucatothen run an app16:24
flatsthats how I got konversation open16:24
osh_LjL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3577870 That one sais that downloading -> installing should pick up dependancies, but it won't. not for me.16:24
flatsso there's still a  ways to go with KDE4 then, I thought it was usable, my bad16:24
ArtimusToHellWithGA: http://www.openwarriors.iblog.co.za/2007/10/07/ubuntu-human-kde-colour-scheme/16:25
ToHellWithGAcheers16:25
LjLosh_, i suspect the canonical gutsy repositories aren't currently in very good order.16:25
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhey Jucato :]16:25
jesse__is medibuntu still useful to have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?16:25
Jucatoflats: it is a bit, but you only most probably installed only the very base apps, and also it's not end-user usable yet16:25
Jucatoyo AT0M1CB0MB3R16:25
drama1981anybody having major display probs radeon xpress 200 on gutsy? top and bottome title bars take up my WHOLE screen.16:26
boubbin!kde416:26
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php16:26
osh_LjL: I should probably report a bug on launchpad.net...16:26
Jucatoflats: read up: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta3.php16:26
LjLosh_: probably. do check out virtualbox in the meanwhile, perhaps it works well enough for you.16:26
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osh_LjL: But it won't play vmware images, right? So my MS-Office, MS-Project and all that is gone until vmware starts working for me again?16:27
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: I'm going to try to fix all of my problems. Hopefully it won't be that hard. So to start how about the ~./kde/autostart? Where do I put that?16:27
khumba-yomauri_ - still there?16:27
LjLosh_: no, it won't, though i can't exclude there are converters...16:27
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: it's ~/.kde/Autostart/ it's already there.16:27
Jucato!autostart | AT0M1CB0MB3R16:28
ubotuAT0M1CB0MB3R: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.16:28
mauri_khumba-yo: yes....LjL suggested me to remove canonical line into source file16:28
mauri_khumba-yo: it now works16:28
khumba-yomauri_ - 8D16:28
drama1981also get vga not support h48 v89 on boot. my screen goes black until the login screen but its so huge i cant see anything i just have to type my name and pass (cant see the box though)16:28
h3sp4wnjesse__: they won't switch to kde4 for an lts release16:29
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: do i have to install "kcontrol-autostart" cause i just alt f2'ed it and it didn't work16:29
mauri_khumba-yo: thanks again also tu you16:29
jeroenvrp is it default that k/ubuntu does not allow X from localhost?16:29
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: if you want to. you can always just manually add things to the ~/.kde/Autostart folder16:29
osh_LjL: I'll just see if I can get vmware fixed. Worst case I'll just have to downgrade back to feisty and use that.16:30
khumba-yomauri_ - np, ur welcome *lol*16:30
flatsjucato: thanks for the help.16:30
bentob0x!ati16:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:30
jeroenvrpso you have to a xhost +localhost first16:30
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: ok :]16:30
flatsbrb16:30
jeroenvrpand how to make xhost +localhost permanant?!16:30
jesse__do intel i810 video cards use a restricted driver?16:30
kaminixWell then, KDE 4 Beta 3. Tell me what cool stuff I can do. :D16:31
h3sp4wnjeroenvrp: don't use xhost16:31
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/superkaramba/questionsanswersandtips.html#id254613216:31
installationrlHas any update fixed failure to detect some 8 series nvidia cards?16:31
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: i can't find kde autostart16:31
jeroenvrph3sp4wn: what should I use instead?16:31
AT0M1CB0MB3Rthanks Jucato16:31
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: in Konqueror, type the location ~/.kde/Autostart16:31
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: ~ is shorthand for your home directory (/home/username)16:32
h3sp4wnjeroenvrp: su user_running_x -c "xauth extract - $DISPLAY" | xauth merge -16:32
ctwHi! I just upraded to Gutsy on my HP Pvilion dv1000 laptop and I am having some trouble with the graphics (integrated intel centrino chipset). Ever since the upgrade the graphics seem to be extremly slow and I can't get my desktop extended to my external screen with xinerama anymore. Any ideas?16:32
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: .kde is a hidden folder in your home directory16:32
* installationrl (is in the process of moving terabytes of data, so barely has enough bandwidth for irc let alone updates)16:32
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: how do i enable session support in kcontrol16:33
jeroenvrph3sp4wn:16:33
jeroenvrpxauth:  error in locking authority file /home/jeroen/.Xauthority16:33
jeroenvrpxauth: (argv):1:  unable to read any entries from file "(stdin)"16:33
installationrlso is 8600/8800 detection by restricted-manager ok after updates?16:33
installationrlon feisty?16:33
jeremY a t'il des french ici?16:33
Jucato!fr | jerem16:33
ubotujerem: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.16:33
LjLosh_: downgrading is not quite supported16:33
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: it should be enabled  by default. in System Settings ->Advanced -> Session Manager16:33
h3sp4wnjeroenvrp: or you can use - export XAUTHORITY=/home/<whatever-yourusername-is/.Xauthority16:33
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: it should be set to "Restore from previous session"16:33
Flatswhats a good place to look for linux/ubuntu apps?16:34
installationrllook in the repos.16:34
FlatsTucows seems limited these days16:34
JucatoFlats: Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager16:34
JucatoFlats: Kubuntu has around 20,000 packages (apps + libraries)16:34
Flatswell I mean organized with descriptions16:34
jesse__Flats: packages.ubuntu.com is also nice for finding the thousands of packages16:34
Jucatoyes  of course they have descriptions16:34
Flatsthere we go.16:34
jeroenvrph3sp4wn: should I restart X16:34
khumba-yoctw - have you checked the system preferences for proprietary drivers?16:35
installationrlifg you want to go further afield or find inspiration, look in linux format, sourceforge and happypenguin.org  :)16:35
h3sp4wnjeroenvrp: No should just work - try it16:35
JucatoFlats: there we go? packages.ubuntu.com is just an online service to view what you can view in Adept Manager16:35
jeroenvrpdoesnt work16:35
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: it is but it still doesnt restore all of my themes :[16:35
armadilloi need driver for polaroid pdc 3030 for kubuntu, someone can help me?16:35
jeroenvrpxterm Xt error: Can't open display: :016:35
jeroenvrpXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server16:35
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: ". For some themes you will also need to right mouse button click and reload the theme at least once after running it so that the config file will get written to your home directory."16:35
* ScorpKing waves..16:36
Flatsyes but it organizes it nice and neat16:36
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: lol i just read that haha16:36
AT0M1CB0MB3Rlet me try that16:36
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: how do i check if it got written into the folder16:37
JucatoFlats: have you even taken a look at Add/Remove Programs? it's not organized? it's not neat?16:37
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: um... I forgot :)16:37
Flatslemme see.16:37
installationrladd/remove programs seems exactly what you'd want tbh.16:37
ScorpKingif i do lshw i get --network UNCLAIMED (RTL-8139). eth0 is not there. how do i setup the card?16:37
jesse__Jucato : Add/Remove programs is fairly slow (IMHO) and there's a lot to be said for a web browser's "find in page"16:37
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: dang ill try figuring it out16:37
installationrlWoo!16:38
Jucatojesse__: true. well whatever..16:38
Arghre Ihr  .... :-)16:38
Jucatowhatever floats his boat...16:38
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: I think it's ~/.superkaramba16:38
Flatsactually it is pretty good.  The good thing about it is I can uninstall the junk I didn't even know was installed16:38
h3sp4wnjeroenvrp: works fine here with just - sudo -i and then export XAUTHORITY=/home/samw/.Xauthority && export DISPLAY=:0.016:38
JucatoFlats: careful with what you categorize as "junk"16:39
jeroenvrpah sudo -i16:39
h3sp4wnjeroenvrp: read about the "mit magic cookie"16:39
Jucatojust because you don't know what it is, doesn't mean it's not needed16:39
VousDeuxso, if I 'sudo lshw' and the results do not show hardware I expected to see, how would I go about correcting that?16:39
mauri_khumba-yo: sorry, are you able to help me to configure my webcam16:39
xenoli got a question if i need to install codecs once again after upgrade to gutsy?16:39
drama1981anybody use radeon xpress 200 graphics?16:39
JucatoVousDeux: plain lshw doesn't work?16:39
h3sp4wndrama1981: No noone does (not even the people who use them)16:40
jeroenvrph3sp4wn: still doesnt work16:40
khumba-yomauri_ - sorry, not sure, whats wrong ?16:40
VousDeuxJucato: what works better?16:40
JucatoVousDeux: I don't think you need sudo for lshw16:40
VousDeuxJucato: oh, that was a question...16:40
h3sp4wnjeroenvrp: PEBCAK ( I have just tested it and it works 100% with gutsy and xterm )16:40
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: they're all written in there16:40
VousDeuxJucato: it warns me if I don't use sudo16:40
Jucatohm...16:40
Jucatoweird16:40
stephenanyone can tell me how to enable compiz fusion in 7.10?16:40
h3sp4wnJucato: Uses some stuff in /proc that cannot be read by user16:41
ToHellWithGAwhen i run kcontrol things look normal.  when i run VirtualBox things look HUGE and unrefined.  do y'all have any ideas on that? http://thestonepedo.dyndns.org/images/VirtualBox_Is_Big.jpg16:41
juanhello all! can anyone tell me how to configure konqueror as my default file manager?16:41
AzzcoI really need some help here... I have no idea how to get my computer past "ISOLINUX 3.36 Debian-2007-08-30" I want a fresh install of kubuntu but I can't boot =(16:41
VousDeux"WARNING: you should run this program as super-user."16:41
juaninstead of dolphin16:41
JucatoVousDeux: I see...16:41
Jucato!dolphin | juan16:41
ubotujuan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.16:41
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: but there isnt anything in my autostart folder16:42
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: that's ok16:42
Jucatosession management will handle it automtically16:42
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: the Autostart folder is only for things you put in manually16:42
AT0M1CB0MB3Rok16:43
mauri_khumba-yo: it simple.....kubuntu didn't recognixe my webcam16:43
claydohJucato: do you ever sleep?16:43
Jucatoclaydoh: of course! in an hour or so :)16:43
jesse__Azzco : have you confirmed that the CD works in another computer?16:43
Jucatoafter 2 bottles :)16:43
jeroenvrph3sp4wn: I dont think its a PEBCAK16:43
ScorpKingJucato: only 2? that's quick. :P16:44
donsdwHow do I get Kubuntu to auto-login.  I am the only one using this computer.16:44
claydohJucato: cool you always seem to be here when I am awakew, and we are on opposite sides of the planet :)16:44
stephenanyone can tell me how to access network folderes?16:44
VousDeuxit's pebkac16:44
Jucatoclaydoh: hehe :)16:44
xenolwhy does few things like OOo and video waching doesnt work after upgrade to gutsy?16:44
JucatoScorpKing: yeah, I'm not into drinking much16:44
shogun_whois Jucato16:44
claydohhehe16:45
h3sp4wnVousDeux: Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard16:45
ScorpKinglol16:45
VousDeuxno, keyboard and chair16:45
sebastian^:)16:45
khumba-yomauri_ - sorry, I never used a webcam :/16:45
VousDeuxjust yanking your chain16:45
jeroenvrpanyhow xhost +localhost is working16:45
mauri_khumba-yo: ok thanks however16:45
stephenis this the support channel for kubuntu or what?16:45
buzas opposed to?16:46
FlatsOK I'm a trillian (windows) user for various IM clients.  Without having to go thru 30 different clients, any recommendations?  Pidgin seems decent but what seems to be the most popular?16:46
khumba-yo:)16:46
Jucatostephen: it is16:46
buzFlats: kopete16:46
jeroenvrpFlats: kopete16:46
JucatoFlats: in here? Kopete16:46
Flatswow16:46
Flatscool16:46
jeroenvrpyour in kubuntu16:46
Flatsyep16:46
MarkCi use pidgin16:46
buztry kopete then16:46
claydohkopete for KDe lovers, pidgin is good too16:46
stephenhow do i do to access network folders?16:46
MarkCpopular seems to be just an opinion, unless you'll like to do a poll...16:46
buzstephen: what kind of network folders16:46
jeroenvrpyou also have SIM16:46
FlatszZZthats kinda what I hoped for16:46
jeroenvrpif that is still alive16:47
stepheni have folders shared from my windows computer16:47
Jucato!best | Flats16:47
ubotuFlats: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.16:47
xehnidaKopete crashes when logging to MSN16:47
stepheni want to access from kubuntu'16:47
buzstephen: google for smb4k16:47
leexgxbefore i make an duplicate on bugs launchpad web site how do i move or add it into gusty list of bugs16:47
Jucatoxehnida: that's just a new bug. the fix is already available16:47
buzor just install it with sudo aptitude install smb4k16:47
stephenthanks buz16:48
MarkChow do i know if my pc has bluetooth inside it?16:48
leexgxmost do not16:48
leexgxMarkC:16:48
buzstephen: you may also try smb://IPofWindows/sharename but smb4k is more comfortable16:48
MarkCleexgx: ?16:48
leexgxMarkC: most do not have blue tooth only some laptops do16:48
stephenokie16:48
buzMarkC: try hcitool scan16:49
buzif it doesnt work you either dont have BT or its turned off16:49
MarkCoh, thanks buz16:49
boubbinanyone had proböems with kaffeine in gutsy ?16:50
buzboubbin: works splendidly for me16:50
xehnidai install the "fix" for Kopete, it still crashes16:50
ctwkhumba-yo: I don't need a proprietary driver for graphics16:50
ctwkhumba-yo: it runs on the i810 driver16:50
boubbinbuz for me, it just loads and never opens. no error msg's when i run from terminal16:51
buzmhh thats weird16:51
ccherrettI recently lost all keyboard functions on my laptop when logged into kde. even on the external board16:51
khumba-yoctw - sry, just a guess... ;)16:51
ccherrettI can type in kdm but in kde it is a no go16:51
ctwkhumba-yo: thanks anyway :)16:52
VousDeuxthat's a good point...I should probably enable the bluetooth and the touch pad before running lshw16:52
ccherrettshould I try regenerating the xorg file?16:52
buzccherrett: if you're feeling adventureous sure16:52
buzbut make backup of current one first16:52
buzit does sound like a kde issue though16:53
shogun_hey everyone, will it be a problem if i install new gutsy packages from adept? the upgrade installation stucked at 0%, so i closed it16:53
stealth_hi folks, i've installed the new gutsyGibbon release, and have problems with the startup, it takes 5 min. from grub to the login screen, what can it be? the pc is not really slow 2,2Ghz. Can somebody help please?16:53
buzshogun_: i would not mix feisty and gutsy packages16:53
ccherrettbuz: hmm any thoughts on what to try?16:53
mauri_sameone can help me to configure my webcam?16:53
jesse__ccherrett: are your windows actually loading/drawing correctly?16:53
ScorpKingwill the rtl8150 and rtl8187 modules work on a RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ card? can someone with that card check for me what they have loaded?16:53
ccherrettjesse__: yes16:53
nosrednaekimstealth_: take a look at dmesg16:53
scheater6stealth_: do you get a usplash (the kubuntu logo with a progress bar?_16:54
nosrednaekimScorpKing: will do16:54
ccherrettjesse__: I guess I could load flux to see if it is X or KDE16:54
jesse__ccherrett : damn, then you've got a different problem than me :P16:54
ccherrett:)16:54
* ccherrett goes to load flux16:54
stealth_no there are no progress bar and no logo or something....16:54
nosrednaekimccherrett: eh..... whats the problem?16:55
khumba-yobye @ll16:55
ccherrettnosrednaekim: keyboard stopped working in kde on the laptop16:55
ccherrettnosrednaekim: external as well but only in kde16:56
jesse__ccherrett : try the "failsafe" session type as well16:56
scheater6stealth_: ah.  This is actually a common problem it gutsy.  A bug that's being worked on.  When the usplash doesn't show, then your computer goes into suspend before the KDM shows up.  But there's a pretty easy fix16:56
nosrednaekimccherrett: odd16:56
ccherrettjesse__: failsafe works fine16:56
mauri_sameone can help me to configure my webcam?16:56
ccherrettjesse__: even the login scren works16:56
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jesse__ccherrett : what kind of laptop is it?16:57
darkoxhow to install drivers for nvidia geforce mx5200?16:57
nosrednaekimScorpKing: I'm using the 8139too and 8139cp modules16:57
ScorpKingis there a package for it?16:58
nosrednaekimScorpKing: its in the kernel....16:58
nosrednaekimdarkox: use the restricted-manager-kde16:58
scheater6stealth_: sry - trying to find the forum post with the instructions that fixed mine!  brb16:58
ccherrettjesse__: toshiba satellite16:58
ScorpKingi'm using xubuntu 7.04 an a box and it's not on the machine16:58
nosrednaekimScorpKing: you can't modprobe it?16:59
damianoshi16:59
jesse__ccherrett : I am sadly out of ideas; did your upgrade go smoothly?16:59
damianosIs there anybody who uses bluetooth ?16:59
scheater6stealth_: ah!  Got it, alright, ready?16:59
voicuif i want to learn about creating simple programs that access the internet, where should i start? i'd like to use C/C++17:00
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: your the best that fixed my problem17:00
damianosI have issue with pairing my mobile with PC17:00
ScorpKingnosrednaekim: i did. lshw say the card is unclaimed. i only have rtl8150 and rtl8187 modules on that box.17:00
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: great!17:00
stealth_yeah thanx ready...17:00
VousDeuxenabling the bluetooth and the touch pad didn't seem to make a difference for lshw...they are still not shown17:00
nosrednaekimccherrett: try making a new user.17:00
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: kde docs are great too!17:00
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: so is google :D17:00
ccherrettnosrednaekim: root can type17:00
ccherrettnosrednaekim: so it is a corruption in the .kde dir17:00
nosrednaekimccherrett: you have root login enabled for KDE?17:00
ccherrettI will backup and snuff it'17:00
damianos?17:00
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: but what about themes that i download from super karamba17:00
nosrednaekimccherrett: back up your email and wipe it :)17:00
damianoswhere i can find kbluepin ?17:00
spawn57any of you having trouble logging onto msn using kopete using 7.10?17:00
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow do i add those to there? Jucato17:00
damianosfor example ?17:01
ccherrettnosrednaekim: you can startx in failsafe17:01
damianosin which pacage ?17:01
scheater6stealth_: check /etc/usplash.conf and make sure the x value is 1024 and the y value is 76817:01
nosrednaekimccherrett: oh.. thats not root17:01
* ccherrett goes on a snuffing fest!17:01
xehnidakopete fix = kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb17:01
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: same way, you just run them once then right-click to close them, run them again, and leave them open when you logout17:01
ccherrettnosrednaekim: it says root17:01
damianosnobody uses bluetooth here ??17:01
stealth_yeah i will check...17:01
jesse__ccherrett : I had moved my .kde directory out of the way, and still couldn't type17:01
nosrednaekimccherrett: really? oh ok >:(17:01
LjL!find kbluepin17:02
jesse__any other dot directories that might be causing the problem?17:02
ubotuPackage/file kbluepin does not exist in gutsy17:02
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: thats not what fixed it i had to add to the autostart folder :[17:02
damianosubotu: ?17:02
LjLdamianos: seems you're out of luck17:02
damianoswhy ?17:02
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: oh... :(17:02
scheater6stealth_: then open (you'll have to use sudo) /etc/boot/menu.lst and find the kernel you're booting and add "vga=791" without the quotes to the end of that line17:02
LjLdamianos: because it's not there?17:02
damianosso how can I pair my pc  and mobile phone17:02
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: its better then nothing17:02
ccherrettjesse__: did you relogin?17:02
LjLdamianos: pair them to do what?17:02
ccherrettjesse__: kde rebuilds the dir on login17:02
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: they would probably be hiding somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba17:02
damianoskbluepin is used as pair_helper17:03
AT0M1CB0MB3Rok17:03
Jucatobrb.. have to go17:03
scheater6stealth: and then "sudo update-initramfs -u -k `uname -r`" without the quotes17:03
LjLdamianos: are you sure? i don't seem to have kbluepin, but i can pair devices fine17:03
damianosso if there is now kbluepin so it must be something else17:03
LjLdamianos: is kbluetooth started?17:03
jesse__ccherrett : I restarted kdm17:03
damianosyes17:03
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: your correct17:03
aldevaranhola alguien habla en castellano17:03
damianoscan u help ?17:03
scheater6stealth_: if you care, or need to find these instructions again later. the bug is listed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/6355817:03
nosrednaekim!es17:03
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.17:03
aldevarangracias17:04
LjLdamianos: i don't know. i can start the pairing from the other device (don't know how to start it from kubuntu), and then i'm simply asked for the PIN in kubuntu.-17:04
LjLdamianos: i assume you have the "bluetooth" package installed?17:04
damianosLjL: Kubuntu asking you for pin ?17:04
ccherrettjesse__: still no change?17:04
LjLdamianos: yes17:04
damianosLjL: for sure kbluetooth is installed17:05
LjLdamianos: "bluetooth", not "kbluetooth"17:05
jesse__okay, I just created a brand new user and logged in; cannot type and windows are not finishing loading17:05
damianosLjL: /etc/init.d/bluetooth is working17:05
ScorpKingjesse__: do you have any full disks?17:06
LjLdamianos: so if you initiate pairing from your phone (or whatever), what happens?17:06
ccherrettjesse__: can you test it with an external board or a live cd?17:06
ccherrettwhere is kmail hiding it's mail?17:06
damianosLjL: wait a moment i have never started pairing form my mobile phone17:06
ccherrett.kde/share/apps/kmail?17:06
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ccherrettempty17:06
nosrednaekimccherrett: .kde/share/apps/kmail17:06
ccherrettnosrednaekim: empty17:06
LjLdamianos: how do you start it from kubuntu? i never knew of a way17:06
ccherretthmm17:06
jesse__ScorpKing : smallest partition still has 6Gigs free17:07
ScorpKingok17:07
jesse__ccherrett : it's more the windows-not-loading problem for me17:07
mrtimbohow do i play encrypted dvds?17:07
ScorpKingmaybe hot cpu?17:07
firexdccmit kb geht das brennen nicht17:07
ccherrettnosrednaekim: sorry idiot erro on my part :)17:07
nosrednaekimccherrett: did you set your mailDIR to something else?like ~/mail?17:07
damianosLjL: I have nokia 6021 it seems that i cannot pair it form my phone17:07
LjL!de | firexdcc17:08
ccherrettnosrednaekim: looking at roots .kde :( </shame>17:08
mrtimbohow do i play encrypted dvds?17:08
LjLdamianos: well, what does it say? does it at least discover your kubuntu machine?17:08
nosrednaekimheh :)17:08
ubotufirexdcc: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:08
seriekrocki have intstalled emerald, but i dont have any themes exept for one, how do i get more themes? i cant find emerald-themes in adept17:08
jim__Hi all, having some issues on my Dmesg with regards my CDROM which worked fine in 7.04 but in 7.10 I an't access it at all The message I get repeatedly is **hdb: status error: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }17:08
mrtimbohow do i play encrypted dvds?17:09
scheater6stealth_: according to launchpad, a fix has been released, so check adept and see if you have an update to kubuntu-artwork-usplash or usplash-theme17:09
LjL!dvd17:09
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs17:09
jeremya des french ici?17:09
LjL!fr | jerem17:09
ubotujerem: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:09
mrtimbothank you17:09
jesse__restating my problem: brand new user logs in, mouse is fine.  open Konsole from kmenu, the window is created but the menu/icons/tabs take between 1 and 2 minutes to render and for me to be able to start typing17:09
nosrednaekimjesse__: hummmm do you have XGL installed?17:10
VousDeuxit seems like konqueror should be able to switch between file management mode and web browsing mode depending on what has been entered into the address bar17:10
jeremfrench?17:10
jesse__nosrednaekim : dpkg --get-selections says no17:10
nosrednaekimjesse__: "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"17:10
nosrednaekim!fr17:11
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.17:11
nosrednaekimVousDeux: I think it can17:11
stealth_big thanx @scheater i wanna try....17:11
VousDeuxnosrednaekim: that does not seem to be the default behavior17:11
jesse__my problem occurs for konqueror and I assume all other apps as well17:11
jeremya des french ici?17:11
jesse__nosrednaekim : Installed: (none)17:12
nosrednaekimjesse__: hmm ok. could you possibly try installing another WM?17:12
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: it worked thanks17:12
jesse__nosrednaekim : 'failsafe' session type works fine17:12
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: ok...sweet17:12
scheater6jerem: nous parlons l'anglais17:12
ScorpKinglol17:12
jim__Actually I may have found the problem, could someone just confirm that this is WRONG - cheers - /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       017:13
nosrednaekimjesse__: ah.. right.17:13
jesse__nosrednaekim : will install/try fluxbox17:13
scheater6jerem: On parle le français dans *kubuntu-fr17:13
ScorpKingjim__: i don't think udf should be in there unless you read mac disks.17:14
LjLjerem has left ages ago, scheater617:14
scheater6ljl: yea, just saw that.  I figured if he didn't get the ubot message I'd give telling him myself ago.  Thanks anyway17:14
jim__ScorpKing: Its the default from my install, it seems strange that it sets hdb as my cdrom and its noauto as well17:14
=== deviance is now known as TimS
AT0M1CB0MB3RScorpKing:  should i install wine since i like to use adobe photoshop/americas army and other stuff17:14
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: actually, there is a version of America's Army for linux17:15
scheater6wonder what happened to stealth_?17:15
AT0M1CB0MB3RAT0M1CB0MB3R: REALLY omg i loove that game17:15
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: help me out?17:15
nosrednaekimlet me see if I can find it17:15
AT0M1CB0MB3Riloveyou17:15
juani have a small problem, now when starting desktop effects at startup,it is the last thing it does, so it loads everything and then the screen goes black until it loads compiz and beryl17:17
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/31/165821817:17
blendtuxyes juan17:17
blendtuxand you want it to first start i guess juan17:17
juanyes17:17
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: your the best but will adobe photoshop run on linux17:17
AT0M1CB0MB3R?17:17
juanany idea onhow to do this blendtux ?17:18
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: only with wine17:18
nosrednaekimif then...17:18
blendtuxi dont have no idea how to change it juan, but maybe you can go to the #beryl channel17:19
=== thomas_ is now known as _thomas
_thomashi17:19
juanso it is normal, blendtux ?17:19
blendtuxi dont know juan17:20
juanalroght, thanks for your hlp17:20
_thomasi've got a dual core cpu and I was testing it a bit, and i saw super_pi only uses one of the 2 cores, how can I set it to use both?17:20
eljefehello, how can i charge my Mtotrola Razr off of the USB?  It used to work but now it doesn't, even though dmesg recognizes the plug-in of the phone17:21
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: but thats a oooooooooollllllllllllddddddddddd version17:21
nosrednaekimeh really?17:21
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: can i run a newer version?17:21
nosrednaekimprbably17:21
spawn57does kopete connect to msn on 7.10 for all of you?17:21
nosrednaekimbug 51350017:22
eljefekopete and msn never seem to get along17:22
_thomasyeah, you just have to install a new kdelibs packet17:22
nosrednaekimspawn57: there is a bug in the current KDElibs17:22
spawn57hmm damn...wonder want's happening to me17:22
_thomasspawn57:17:22
spawn57nosrednaekim: got a link for me?17:22
_thomas1 sec17:22
jesse__neat.  loaded icewm (new user).  WM starts just fine, xterm loads and can be typed in.  konsole takes >1min to load17:22
jesse__it appears my kde is somehow borked; how do I go about reinstalling it?17:23
_thomasthe deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb17:23
_thomasthe thread: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/304117:23
_thomasspawn57:17:23
spawn57_thomas: I can't see what you're writing =(17:24
_thomas[18:23] <_thomas> the deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb17:24
_thomas[18:23] <_thomas> the thread: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/304117:24
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: but can i download a new version for linux?17:24
nosrednaekimjesse__: humm17:24
julihello, may sound odd but after a little bit messing around a question, someone running compiz on kubuntu 7.10 (gutsy)?17:24
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: hmm doesn't seem like there is a newer version..17:24
nosrednaekimjuli: yup17:25
ccherrettnosrednaekim: any idea how to resore the account settings, incoming and outgoing in kmail from the backup?17:25
_thomasspawn57: just download the .deb and install it with gdebi17:25
tuco_Need to make my audigy2 notebook soundcard the default one on the laptop, tried same as for Feisty but it still won't work.17:25
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: its 2.8.2 the one yo gave me was 2.517:25
_thomasi've got a dual core cpu and I was testing it a bit, and i saw super_pi only uses one of the 2 cores, how can I set it to use both?17:25
spawn57_thomas: got a link to this deb?17:25
nosrednaekimccherrett: just replace the kmail DIR I would imagine17:25
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: yeah... so I see.17:26
_thomasspawn57: dude read up17:26
ccherrettnosrednaekim: it just restored the mail :)17:26
eljefehello, how can i charge my Motrola Razr off of the USB with my Kubuntu 7.04??  It used to work but now it doesn't, even though dmesg recognizes the plug-in of the phone17:26
ccherrettnosrednaekim: left all settings out17:26
_thomasspawn57: the deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb17:26
tuco_I type that: gksudo asoundconf set-default-card example_sndcard17:26
ccherrettnosrednaekim: google time17:26
julinosrednaekim installed compiz recently (worked on ubuntu), radeon driver for rs300 mobility radeon alrdy installed and running but dont really know where to activate compiz, typing "compiz" from console didnt work so far...17:26
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: now im sad17:26
nosrednaekimccherrett: errr... hmm IDK... maybe it was in the kontact folder..17:26
spimorthi all17:27
tuco_and it gives me that:Please note that you are attempting to run asoundconf as a privileged superuser, which may have unintended consequences.17:27
nosrednaekimjuli: do you have xgl installed?17:27
eljefewell i did nothing but it is working now17:27
spawn57_thomas: thanks man =]17:27
nosrednaekimtuco_: don'tworry about it ;)17:27
julino, read that aiglx would be better, and alrdy a part of 7.1017:27
julinosrednaekim (above)^^17:28
hargibihey. I cant find the package beryl... Any update on that?17:28
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: yeah... sorry, thats the problem with linux... no big games.17:28
nosrednaekimjuli: but is your card supported by it?17:29
nosrednaekimhargibi: its compiz-fusion now in gutsy17:29
hargibiahh17:29
hargibiok =)17:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: i wish i didnt have to have windows anymore I HATE IT and its taking up 500gb of space i could be using for linux17:29
vrunHi Folks ... I desperately need your help on the upgrade to 7.10 :-(((  ... Distribution Upgrade hangs on "configuring kdeaddons-doc-html ... for 20min now :-(((17:29
tuco_It is recognized Nos same as in Feisty, only now I can't default it17:29
vrun<sigh>17:29
tuco_is there any specific commsnd to make it the default one?17:30
nosrednaekimtuco_: ask on #alsa17:30
=== lee_ is now known as lee986321
tuco_what do I type?17:30
julinosrednaekim should be (at least according to the list of aiglx) though im a bit confused about notebook sticker saying its a "9000IGP" (would not be supported) and lspci saying it would be 9100IGP (supported)...17:30
lovrehi. i was trying to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10, but i got some errors, some packages could not be installed for an unknown reason. Now it just stays on 2% of upgrade, and not moving.... why, how, what to do now17:30
vrunWhat's going to happen if I cancel the process ?17:31
ubuntu__can anyone tell me how to mount my harddrive while I am in the livecd?  i need to copy some files over17:31
nosrednaekimjuli: ok,my bro has the same chip, yes its supported by AIGLX17:31
jesse__what kdelibs version should I have installed after the gutsy upgrade?17:31
vrunlovre: I am on 61% - but I does hang there too :-/17:31
nosrednaekimjuli: run "compiz --replace"17:31
julinosrednaekim ty ill try17:31
=== lee986321 is now known as LEE986321
RytmenPinnenis it hard to make /home its own partition?17:32
lovrevrun: but its done "Fetching the upgrades", its stuck on "Installing the upgrades"17:32
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: no17:32
lovrevrun: wouldnt it be easy to install17:32
lovreim dissapointed17:32
RytmenPinnenk, I'd like to do that now, after lots of hassle, I ended up formating after all :/17:32
vrunYup ... fetching was not problem ... and I wouldn't have worried17:32
RytmenPinnenso now I want to have /home as a separate partition17:33
vrunI am "scared"17:33
LEE986321hello17:33
ubuntu__can anyone tell me how to mount my harddrive while I am in the livecd?  i need to copy some files over17:33
daviowhy whwn start beryl my dektop is white?17:33
lovrevrun: what to do now?17:33
tuco_Nos anything I need to do try to make the audigy2 the default card on my laptop?17:33
julinosrednaekim there a paste service? getting an error message from the console...17:33
nosrednaekim!paste17:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:33
LEE986321is Genii in here?17:33
daviowhy when start beryl my desktop is white?17:33
lovrei cant believe this could happen, a simple upgrade. I thougt that only windows have big problems with small operations17:33
vrunlovre: I simply do not know ... I am too scared to cancel the whole process... never happened to me before (and this is my third upgrade)17:33
NickPrestalovre, having bad luck with the Gutsy upgrade?17:34
vrunmy third KUBUNTU update I should add17:34
nosrednaekimvrun: ah... all the fetching is done?17:34
RytmenPinnennosrednaekim: do I do it in disk & Filesystems?17:34
vrunYES fetching went OK17:34
lovreNickPresta: yes, it stopped after some error messages.17:34
NickPrestalovre, mine did too...17:34
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: are you on the livCD?17:34
lovreNickPresta: what did you do17:34
vrunInstalling hangs at 61% and "kdeaddons-doc-html"17:35
tuco_Vrun...connect using a network cable, go get Wireless assistant from adept, configure it and then remove Knetwork manager. This is how I solved exactly the same problem.17:35
julinosrednaekim http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41355/17:35
NickPrestaI close the upgrade window, unlocked apt, and then ran `sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade` a few times until all upgrades were done.17:35
RytmenPinnennope I ended up formating after all, turns out most of the /home folder had dissappeared when I tried to do some partitioning on my own through the installation program17:35
nosrednaekimvrun: then you can cancle that safely and run from the terminal "apt-get dist-upgrade"17:35
LEE986321hmm sounds like a bad cd try recording one at a slower speed17:35
tuco_Me now I just need to sort my sound card out.17:35
RytmenPinnennosrednaekim: you got that? I allways forget puttin the name first17:35
vruntuco: I am using a cable ... network is OK (as you can see me typing on THAT PC) ;-)17:35
* LEE986321 puts a pot pie inthe micro17:36
lovreNickPresta: why is this happening? I came from windows to linux because of shit like this. Simple stuff that goes berserk when least expected. Now im dealing with the same shit on linux too :( :(17:36
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: so you have it installed?17:36
RytmenPinnennosrednaekim:  yup17:36
RytmenPinnenfresh and clean17:36
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vrunnosrednaekim: The warning I get  when trying to cancel is quite scary ...  :-/17:36
NickPrestalovre, despite this problem, this is a fairly isolated incident. I've upgraded from Dapper > Edgy > Feisty and now to Gutsy and this is the first time something like this has happened. I'17:37
lovrevrun: i dont care, i will kill it with an axe17:37
nosrednaekimvrun: whats it say?17:37
NickPrestalovre, I'm experiencing a whole bunch of other problems with Gutsy at the moment. I wish I would've stayed with feisty.17:37
vrunOK .. so let's do it17:37
lovreNickPresta: there is no going back at this point?17:37
LjLlovre: wait, a distribution upgrade is a "small operation"? please reduce your expectations :) is upgrading from windows 2000 to XP a small operation?17:37
nosrednaekimjuli: hmm pastebin the results of "glxinfo" for me17:38
vrunnosrednaekim: "Configuring kdeaddons-doc-html"  ... time is not counting anymore ... or wait ... you mean the message ?17:38
nosrednaekimvrun: yeah17:38
nosrednaekimthe message17:38
LEE986321o who here wants to  help me set up my ati drivers now taht I have the PC seeing the ati card as a vessa?17:38
tuco_Ok Vrun. You have a wireless card on your pc?17:38
lalalandehi to the room.. i've rcently installed kubuntu and guarddog.now im having problems with konversation kopete korrent some help?17:38
julinosrednaekim hmm shouldnt be, its what im getting when im doing "compiz --replace" in console17:39
lovreLjL: well, its not a small operation, ill give you that. But it is something that should go rather smoothly. Shouldnt it? I mean, doesnt every user want to be able to be up to date without having to spend sleepless night every time a new version is released?17:39
vrunThe system could be in an unusable state if you cancel the upgrade. You are strongly adviced to resume the upgrade  ... "adviced" sic> _:-(17:39
nosrednaekimjuli: no... I know... please pastebin the results of "glxinfo"17:39
vruntuco_: NO WIRELESS on that PC17:39
nosrednaekimvrun: ah..ok... don't worry about it then... cancel it17:39
julinosrednaekim on the way..17:39
LjLlovre, a new version is released only every six months. sure, we would all wish that upgrading were always smooth - but that's just not always the case as everyone's system is set up differently and there is plenty of things that may go wrong17:40
vrunOK ... I'll go for it17:40
eljefelalalande: you can try using IPTraf (graphical-command-line app) to see which ports you need to open in Guarddog17:40
tuco_Ah OK. Well I could have helped you with wireless sorry.17:41
vrunlovre: Don't worry ... I have to work with win ... lotsa problems... KUBUNTU went fine ... until this incident ... I am hoping this is a freek one17:41
vrunTHANKS GUYS17:41
vrun'n gals17:41
juanwhat happened to the kbuntu forums?17:41
lovreLjL: i realise that. And if i were on linux for a long time i would probably be ok with it. But im just getting to know linux, and now this. A version upgrade that goes wrong. It sets me of, saying: linux is not at all that great.....17:41
eljefejuan: ??17:41
nosrednaekimvrun: ummm you know what you have to run now?17:41
julinosrednaekim output of glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41356/17:41
eljefelovre: windows upgrades stank too, it just that they were less often17:42
mulanderlovre: people would tell you the same about xp to vista upgrades :)17:42
LjLlovre: if you thought linux was "great", then again, reduce your expectations. it's a decent free system.17:42
tuco_anyone who can lighten my solution to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15817:42
eljefei prefer th e reinstall anyways, it makes me feel like everything is a bit cleaner17:42
nosrednaekimjuli: no direct rendering.. there is your problem. run the restricted-manager-kde and see if it says there is a ATI driver available17:42
julibtw there a faster way putting peoples names in front of what you r saying when u want to adress someone specifically?17:42
juanwhen i try to access the kubuntu forums, i get :17:42
juanERROR: Database error.17:42
juanCannot execute the query: SELECT m.posterTime, m.subject, m.ID_TOPIC, m.ID_MEMBER, m.ID_MSG, m.ID_BOARD, IFNULL(mem.realName, m.posterName) AS posterName, t.ID_BOARD, t.numReplies, b.name AS bName, m.body, m.smileysEnabled, m.Icon, mem.avatar, av.filename FROM (smf_topics AS t, smf_messages AS m, smf_boards AS b)17:42
vrunnorednaekim: Will run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  ... that OK ?17:43
nosrednaekim!tab | juli17:43
ubotujuli: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.17:43
LjLlovre: now anyway, what are you stuck at right now?17:43
tuco_Please someone help with my sound card. It is driven me banana!17:43
nosrednaekimvrun: yeah... and if that fails... just run it again and again17:43
mauri_xmms does not works if adept manager is not open...why17:43
julinosrednaekim should i take the proprietary driver instead of radeon for sure?17:43
nosrednaekimjuli: you can try it...17:43
eljefejuli in Konversation, you can type a few letters and hit [tab]17:43
julityvm all, makes life a lot easier ^^17:44
lovreWell, the problem is that i know windows suck. It sux so bad, and its update sux even worse! Its so bad i dont want to have anything to do with it anymore. So i look at my alternatives. There comes kubuntu. LInux. Is  there NO os that could just work? Is it much that im asking?17:44
lovreLjL: im stuck with installing the upgrades17:44
vrunnorednaekim: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"   ... do I need to reboot ?17:44
LjLlovre: i don't think there is any usable operating system that give you 100%, or even 95%, certainty of a successful distribution upgrade without manual intervention, no.17:45
eljefelovre: use the LTR (long term release) and just stick with the apps, but they do get outdated in the fast-moving world of FLOSS17:45
juliradeon driver supports graphics card according to lspci...17:45
RytmenPinnenlovre: you could allways try updating from CD Thats what I would've done if I knew what was going to happen to me when I did the network update :)17:45
lovre:)17:45
LjLlovre: can you give me a screenshot?17:45
nosrednaekim!adeptfix | vrun17:45
ubotuvrun: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:45
lovreyes, wait17:45
Jucatoclaydoh: you still there?17:46
claydohJucato: yes i am17:46
tysonswcan someone give me a tip were I can get a good windows app?17:47
RytmenPinnennosrednaekim: lets get down to bussiness with that partitioning :) if you got time I'm not in a hurry17:47
Jucatoclaydoh: what happened to kubuntuforums?17:47
vrunnosrednaekim: merci  - works ... or better "dist-upgrade has started again now"  :-)17:47
julinosrednaekim: there is no other driver available for my card, initially he recognised the graphics card as RS300 but put "ati" driver in xorg.conf17:47
claydohJucato: dunno (as usual)17:47
vrunAnyone know what "package: ggzd" is ... it faild to install or upgrade17:47
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: it would probably be easier if you just did it from the liveCD and installed again.17:47
newsense07i have vista installed on another partition :( and wnat to run ie in linux, will wine run ie ?17:47
Jucatoclaydoh: hehehe! it's down (which is surprising...)17:47
RytmenPinnen:o17:47
claydohwas down, looks like it is being recovered as I get some pages, but some bd errors17:47
nosrednaekimjuli: huh. well seems you are stuck with no direct rendering... thank ATI17:48
lovreLjL: it showd some errors, it couldnt install some packages. Then its just like this: http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc86/kDevious/snapshot11.png17:48
LEE986321ok i am installing the river using this method how ever I was told to use guttsy when ever feisty pops  some on e want o help me through this?17:48
Jucatoclaydoh: Can't open file: 'smf_members.MYI' (errno: 145)17:48
nosrednaekimnewsense07: yes, it will17:48
LEE986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/17:48
Jucatoclaydoh: hm.... ok.. thanks anyway :)17:48
Jucatopeace17:48
tysonswcan someone give me a tip were I can get a good windows app?17:48
newsense07nosrednaekim: thanks17:48
tuco_Anyone having issues with audigy2 sound card in gutsy?17:48
LjLlovre: uhm, pastebin /var/log/dpkg.log (at least the last 100 or so lines of it)17:48
julinosrednaekim: :-(( grrr ATI, ill try to look around for a solution tyvm so far!!!17:48
mauri_xmms does not works if adept manager is not open...why17:49
claydohJucato: yeah, i get that currently, earlier I got nothing, then a page or 2, then a more detailed error. I hink files are being re-uploaded17:49
vruntuco_: Will let you know once I get there :-)17:49
LjLlovre: i assume now the HD doesn't seem to be crunching at all?17:49
lovreno17:49
Jucatoclaydoh: I hope everything's ok :)17:49
LEE986321juli if its ati x300 look at my bin also make sure if there in 64 bit mode that they have vessa in place of ati17:49
LEE986321juli http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/17:50
tuco_Ok Vrun thanks for that17:50
claydohJucato: me too17:50
LEE986321juli does hat help? I just need help folowing the directiosn17:50
claydohsat is one of the few times I can try some actual forum mod work/tech support17:50
newsense07nosrednaekim: do you know how i could get wine to use my vista dlls rather than creating a ~/.wine folder and copying its own dlls there ?17:50
nosrednaekimnewsense07: no... and don't ever use vista dll's with wine17:51
lovreLjL: here is the whole day: http://pastebin.com/m6927678b17:51
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newsense07nosrednaekim: lol i had a hunch that wpould be the answer , cool thanks17:51
[ifr0g]So any one who did not have a successful upgrade ?17:51
Hamracan i like add a folder to apt-get's path? so that it would search it first for packages then download if the pack. isnt there?17:51
nosrednaekimvrun: is the upgrade still going?17:51
vrunyup17:52
nosrednaekimnewsense07: probably a good idea to never use Vista period ;)17:52
LEE986321hmm I have the upgrade but my PC keeps trying to upgrade  lol17:52
vrunYES... stay away from VISTA as long as you can !!!17:52
vrun<sigh>17:52
jesse__Hamra: odds are you want to use dpkg -i somepachage.deb instead17:52
juliLEE986321: no notebook sticker saying its a mobility radeon 9000, lspci saying rs300 mobility radeon 9100 IGP17:52
LjLlovre: so it stopped doing anything after 17.34?17:52
LEE986321Vista is the apittamy of all software17:52
newsense07nosrednaekim: used it about ten times since i bought it, i need ie for some sites though and was planning on gaming on it but i need more ram or something17:52
jesse__Hamra : or whatever the right-click action is in kubuntu these days17:52
nosrednaekimnewsense07: lol17:53
seriekrockanyone knows where i can find addon for xfire in pidgin or kopete?17:53
lovreLjL: yes, and it is 18:53 now17:53
seriekrock!xfire17:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:53
LjLlovre: kill it17:53
lovreLjL: long time17:53
lovreLjL: ok17:53
lovreLjL: killed. what now...17:53
arianehi. i just installed kubuntu 7.10 and the nvidia drivers for graphic acceleration and i wanted to know how do i activate compiz fusion ? it is supposed to be installed by default with the 7.10 right ? could someone help me with this please ?17:53
LjLlovre: do you have any third-party repositories enabled, or third-party packages installed? if unsure, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list17:53
lovreLjL: should i format my disk and install again?17:53
LEE986321juli ergles sorry hmmm, may this can work wi th other drivers just substitue th x 300 for the others17:53
[ifr0g]so does gutsy dvd come with compiz ?17:54
mauri_xmms does not works if adept manager is not open..17:54
lovreLjL: im not sure, so here you go: http://pastebin.com/m5d44ca4917:54
juliLEE986321: hmm trying perhaps or seeing around who else having the notebook card and probs with it17:54
nosrednaekimariane: its not instaled by default, get it with "sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager"17:54
arianenosrednaekim: oh well, thanks a lot.17:55
newsense07nosrednaekim: let me guess, vistas version of ie doesnt work in wine does it ?17:55
nosrednaekimnewsense07: nope.17:55
nosrednaekimon 4 and 6 I think17:55
Kr4t05Okay... For some reason, when I upgraded to Gutsy, I didn't get Dolphin as my default file manager.17:55
Kr4t05It still opens Konqueror...17:55
LjLlovre: i strongly suggest that you remove like 44 (gutsy-proposed). then "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"17:55
newsense07nosrednaekim: can i dl ie and install it using wine ?17:56
nosrednaekim!ie4linux | newsense0717:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:56
lovreLjL: why is this: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"17:56
newsense07nosrednaekim: i appreciate all your help, i never had a use for windows till now and i dont want to run it17:56
ubuntu__does anyone know how to access folders of a previous installation from the kubuntu livecd?  i am trying to copy over kmail email and korganizer settings from my previous installation17:56
LjLlovre: because not having kubuntu-desktop installed may seriously harm your upgrading - so, best to make sure it's installed, just in case.17:56
[ifr0g]newsense07, pls dont. Use ies4linux instead.17:56
nosrednaekim!info ie4linux17:56
ubotuPackage ie4linux does not exist in gutsy17:56
newsense07oh man17:57
lovreLjL: sory for being dumb, but what is kubuntu-desktop? and why dont i have it installed :S17:57
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LjL!kubuntu-desktop | lovre17:57
ubotulovre: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.17:57
nosrednaekim!info ies4linux17:57
ubotuPackage ies4linux does not exist in gutsy17:57
[ifr0g]!compiz-fusion17:57
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion17:57
newsense07guess i could load an iso of vista in vmware right17:57
LjLlovre: i didn't say that you don't have it installed - i'm just saying it *might* not be, so better make sure17:57
mauri_xmms does not works if adept manager is not open..17:57
LjL!bot17:57
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots17:57
LjL!ies4linux17:57
ubotuies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!17:57
[ifr0g]awesome.17:57
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nosrednaekimthanks LjL17:58
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: can you help me with something else?17:58
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: depends...ask :)17:58
[ifr0g]:)17:58
Kr4t05Gee, I forgot the kubuntu-desktop part of upgrading. :P17:58
newsense07cool, thanks everyone, im gonna give ies4linux a try than delete the vista partition all together17:58
LjLKr4t05: if you use the update manager, that shouldn't be an issue as it's done automatically17:58
tysonswkan someone help me with how I should install firefox on kubuntu???17:58
Kr4t05LjL: I couldn't... I kept crashing on me.17:58
[ifr0g]tysonsw, adept17:59
Kr4t05tysonsw: What he said.17:59
K7hi! i've intel pro wireless 3945 , and alice w-gate plus 2 as modem/router! can someone help me to connect ?17:59
tysonswifr0g adept??17:59
tysonswifr0g sorry linux newbie17:59
[ifr0g]tysonsw, k-menu > system > adept17:59
Dr_willis!adept17:59
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto17:59
ubuntu__does anyone know how to access folders of a previous installation from the kubuntu livecd?  i am trying to copy over kmail email and korganizer settings from my previous installation17:59
nosrednaekimubuntu__: mount the drive..18:00
vruntysonsw:  use ADEPT ... i.e. klick Kubuntu icon klick SYSTEM, klick ADEPT18:00
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: my firefox crashes when i try to watch a video with mplayer is there a way to make VLC player default player for mpeg/wmv files18:00
AT0M1CB0MB3R?18:00
[ifr0g]lol18:00
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: there MAY be...I don't use VLC so i'm not sure18:00
ubuntu__nosrednaekim: i have mounted the drive... but certain hidden folders are locked and say i do not have permission.... such as ~/.kde18:00
LjL!mount | ubuntu__18:00
ubotuubuntu__: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter18:00
LjLubuntu__: use sudo.18:01
nosrednaekimubotu: use sudo -i18:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about use sudo -i - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:01
nosrednaekimubuntu__:  use sudo -i18:01
LEE986321eh can some one help me with the follwing direction?18:01
LEE986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/18:01
ubuntu__nosrednaekim: is there a way to sudo the dolphin manager?18:01
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: if i uninstall every other player would that work?18:02
LjL!kdesudo | ubuntu__18:02
nosrednaekimubuntu__: "kdesu d3lphin"18:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdesudo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:02
LjL!kdesudo is <alias> kdesu18:02
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL18:02
LjLnosrednaekim: kdesudo in gutsy18:02
AT0M1CB0MB3R!kdesu18:02
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesu » to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo18:02
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: no18:02
tuco_Let me know when you can help me Vrun ok!18:02
ubuntu__nosrednaekim: i get "command not found"18:02
lovreLjL: i get this error when trying to install kubuntu desktop: http://pastebin.com/m423494cc18:02
nosrednaekimubuntu__: "kdesudo d3lphin"18:03
LjL!no kdesu is <reply> In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo18:03
ubotuI'll remember that LjL18:03
AT0M1CB0MB3R!mpeg18:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:03
newsense07ies4linux worked great for me, man i love this channel18:03
vrunnorednaekim:  I'M DONE ... only error remaining ist "ggzd"  ... GOING TO REBOOT now  x-ing fingers !!!18:03
vrunbye18:03
LjLlovre, you have not killed everything. pastebin "ps aux"18:03
nosrednaekimvrun: good luck!18:03
vrun:-)18:03
nosrednaekimnewsense07: we try :)18:04
tuco_Anybody having a problem with their sound card in Gutsy! I am trying to have my audigy2 the card by default but I can't.18:04
LEE986321nosrednaekim hey they there I fonaly figuresd out that issue18:04
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, mozilla-plugin-vlc18:04
ubuntu__nosrednaekim: it worked.... thank you.18:04
nosrednaekimLEE986321: yeah?18:04
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: OMG I LOVE YOU18:04
newsense07nosrednaekim: man your batting 100 today18:04
lovreLjL: here: http://pastebin.com/meee02c918:04
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, i love you too18:04
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: :]18:04
LEE986321nosrednaekim yeah I had to change the ati drover to vessa in the 64 bit mode, but I still need help with the directions18:04
giuseppehi all anybody knows how to install ubuntu on raid 0?18:04
nosrednaekimnewsense07: lol18:05
tysonswifr0g thx for the help with adept.. love that program18:05
LEE986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/ <<<<<those direcions18:05
nosrednaekimLEE986321: instructions for what..18:05
[ifr0g]tysonsw, yup, me too. But try to learn about apt-get too..18:05
tuco_Please kind people...this is doing my head in!18:05
LEE986321nosrednaekim for my ati I was told to replace gutsys with fiesty18:05
[ifr0g]:)18:05
tysonswifr0g ok.. what is the difernce beetwn them+18:05
[ifr0g]tysonsw, do you like typing commands ?18:06
LjLlovre: it got cut off... use a bigger terminal, or do "ps ax" instead18:06
tysonswifr0g not wo mutch.. but it could be good to learn18:06
nosrednaekimLEE986321: may I ask why you are not using the packages in the repositories?18:06
lovreLjL: http://pastebin.com/m5463578b18:06
Dr_willislearn the shell.. JUST do it! :)18:06
Dr_willisyour patience will be rewarded18:07
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: it says its installed already18:07
nosrednaekimtysonsw: its useful if you want to install something from the command line (i.e. if KDE crashes)18:07
LEE986321nosrednaekim because of the ill fated BLOSD18:07
tuco_aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh18:07
tuco_I am going crazy damn it!18:08
LEE986321nosrednaekim or should it work now that I hcanged to vessa?18:08
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, huh, ok then uninstall  mozilla-mplayer18:08
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: i just did18:08
tysonswnosrednaekim okej..18:08
LjLlovre: sudo kill -s 9 7683 7837 1016618:08
[ifr0g]tuco_, i know this channel can be bad..18:08
LjL!adept crash fix | lovre, and if it still doesn't work18:08
ubotulovre, and if it still doesn't work: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:08
LEE986321nosrednaekim and then the other question is how do I get the repos?18:08
[ifr0g]tuco_, its cause no one likes sound problems.. cause most of us dont have it. :D18:09
tuco_:-(18:09
inaetyHello I just installed Gutsy, however, Kopete doesn't have smooth scrolling before? on Feisty it was nice and smooth scrolling, now it's boring18:09
nosrednaekimLEE986321: what repositories?18:09
lovreLjL: done, what now18:09
tuco_It was working fine in feisty not there is no sound coming out of the speakers18:09
micsince my update to gudsy my kopete crash if a try to connect MSN network. It's the amd64 version, any suggestions?18:09
tuco_I have checked everything18:09
LjLlovre: now see if the apt-get stuff works18:09
lovreok18:09
[ifr0g]tuco_, try giving more info on your card type and the problem in detail.18:09
LEE986321the ones for my ati drivers18:09
LEE986321nosrednaekim the aaati18:10
tuco_I have an duo core laptop...with intel onboard sound and an audigy 2 notebook sound card. I want the audigy 2 to be the default one not the intel onboard one.18:10
Pete^_I can't get my multimedia buttons to work in Toshiba Equium A100 Laptop, any ideas?18:10
nosrednaekimLEE986321: for the ones you are installing, there IS no repository18:10
apollo2011hi everyone. I ran through the procedure to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy using the Update Manager, and it downloaded everything it needed, started applying the packages, and I checked on it every once in a while to make sure no messages had come up and the progress bar showed it was about halfway when I got a bunch of messages saying programs quit unexpectedly and then a message saying the update had been aborted. Now I can't get apt to show that any18:10
apollo2011 more packages need to be installed, but I presume the update manager was only half done. Anyone know what the problem is or what I need to do to complete the update?18:10
* seriekrock is away: Borta för tillfället.18:10
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tuco_The card is recognized so far18:11
rand_acsmic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/2918:11
arianeall compiz fusion plugins are running except the cube. is it a bug or did i made a mistake while configuring compiz fusion ?18:11
nosrednaekimLEE986321: BTW... what model of graphics card do you have?18:11
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdoes anybody know a website with mpeg videos on it18:11
rand_acsmic: that fixes the Kopete problem I believe18:11
LEE986321nosrednaekim x 30018:11
AT0M1CB0MB3Rso i can test out this plugin18:11
[ifr0g]tuco_, maybe if there is some way you could disable the onboard on in the bios. it might switch.18:11
micrand_acs: thanks18:11
tuco_I can't it is a laptop frog18:11
Dr_willisI still dont see how the cube makes  things more efficnent. :)18:11
tuco_but it was fine with Feisty18:11
rand_acsdoes anyone have access to ubotu?18:11
rand_acsthat link should be added imo18:12
LEE986321after kicking in the vessa the screen flipped to a way better pitcture then  i restared18:12
[ifr0g]!sdkfsjdhf18:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdkfsjdhf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:12
LEE986321im running in 64 bit mode18:12
nosrednaekimLEE986321: ok18:12
tuco_I use the follow this step: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_change_the_default_soundcard18:12
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[ifr0g]raddy_, http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi they have inst there..18:12
nosrednaekimrand_acs: lol18:12
lovreLjL: im getting this error when trying to dist-update: http://pastebin.com/m628099f818:12
lovreLjL: :(18:13
Stonkihello, I just install kubunto 7.10 to replace my former gentoo installation. How do I enable compiz by default ?18:13
rand_acsnosrednaekim: hey it get's asked like every 15min :)18:13
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LjLlovre: do as it says, sudo apt-get -f install18:13
Dr_willis!compiz18:13
[ifr0g]Stonki, cool so it comes by default ?18:13
nosrednaekimLEE986321: can't you just stay with vesa?I doubt manually installing will get you anywhere18:13
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion18:13
lalalandehow can i erase a cd-rw from k3b?18:13
apollo2011Can I reboot safely if the update manager appears to have crashed halfway through the upgrade procedure but apt doesn't show any packages that need to be updated?18:14
Stonkiubotu: thanks18:14
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)18:14
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: do you know a website with mpeg/wmv videos on it18:14
micrand_acs: yes it's working now, thx18:14
rand_acsmic: awesome :)18:14
[ifr0g]lovre, they have given you tips there.. try them18:14
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[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, regarding ?18:14
micyes...18:14
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: i want to test the plugin18:14
micnow i've just to get gudsy working on my ps318:14
tysonswI need some help with my aticonfig.. after I installed the program it sais that I should do a aticonfig. when I do that I only get a error:18:14
joaquin30hey there -- Beryl was super fast in Feisty, but now it all goes so slowly ...18:15
Kr4t05Okay... I've upgraded as properly as I can, but Konqueror is still acting as the default file manager.18:15
nosrednaekimapollo2011: run a "apt-get dist-upgrade" to be sure18:15
micubuntu installation breaks at 82%... "cannot reach / find the mirror server releases". seems that it does not bring eth0 up18:15
ardchoilleI open kate as user and make a change to the config. Then I open kate with kdesu and noticed that same change has been made. Does kate not separate user account?18:15
tuco_anybody who want to help: here is this error message I get in the terminal http://pastebin.com/m595299a118:15
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, http://www-eng-x.llnl.gov/documents/tests/mpeg.html18:15
lovreLjL: its working now. ill be back later with report :) i hope everything will go right. Thank you very much, i owe you a beer!18:15
nosrednaekimtysonsw: eh... you  should install the ATI drivers from the restricted-manager18:15
joheySo, I frecked up my Feisty to Gutsy upgrade and now I'm about to do a fresh install. Is it anything to think of? I have backed up /home and /etc. How about my mySQL databases?18:16
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: tells me to install missing plugins18:16
tysonswnosrednaekim where can i find it?18:16
apollo2011nosrednaekim: yeah i did that and it doesn't come back with anything that it needs to do18:16
lovreLjL: i have a problem allready18:16
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LEE986321nosrednaekim eh I kinda need the 3d stuff18:16
lovreLjL: http://pastebin.com/m5feb35a518:16
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: nvm i think i fixed it18:16
lovreLjL: what to do18:16
[ifr0g]tuco_, i would sugest not to run as root cause it says soo..18:16
nosrednaekimapollo2011: then you should be good18:16
tuco_How can I do that Frog?18:16
apollo2011nosrednaekim: k i'll give it a shot18:16
[ifr0g]:)18:16
nosrednaekimLEE986321: was it working on fiesty?18:16
apollo2011thanks18:17
jesse__woot, fixed my problem!  turns out that during the upgrade, the `scim` package got uninstalled18:17
tuco_I used to do the same in feisty and it worked18:17
LEE986321nosrednaekim eh I kinda need the 3d stuff18:17
LjLlovre: that's ok18:17
jesse__reinstalling it has restored KDe to working condition.18:17
nosrednaekimjesse__: ah!18:17
lovreLjL: how do i do what it says?18:17
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LEE986321nosrednaekim yes how ever with the minor glitch that it was only using 32 mb of my cards ram18:17
LjLlovre: a reboot will do when you're finished, or « sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart » from a linux terminal (but don't do it now)18:17
wesleyhow can i best install compiz? sudo apt-get install comiz ?18:17
lovreLjL: ok, thanx18:17
Kr4t05wesley: That's about all there is to it. :)18:18
nosrednaekimLEE986321: then *I* would go back to fiesty18:18
micwesley: yes18:18
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: fixed thanks18:18
lalalandehow can i erase a cd-rw from k3b?18:18
tysonswnosrednaekim where can i find restricted-manager?18:18
LEE986321hmmm18:18
Kr4t05lalalande: Tools -> Erase CD-RW18:18
nosrednaekimtysonsw: system setting-> advanced18:18
[ifr0g]johey, like your bookmarks or etc dir if you did any manual changes..18:18
nosrednaekimtysonsw: in the kmenu18:18
LEE986321nosrednaekim hates 32 bit18:18
installationrlConsidering the DRASTIC things people change their power management settings to avoid, is it strictly wise to switch them back on, on the quiet, with updates?18:18
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, np18:18
LEE986321lol18:18
lalalande..oh18:18
jesse__anyone know if laptop-mode is actually enabled by default in gutsy?18:19
Kr4t05lalalande: It's okay. :)18:19
nosrednaekimtysonsw: but uninstall those drivers that you were manually installing...18:19
installationrlI mean it's easier to just ignore it, unless you're the girl whose computer gets fried.18:19
RytmenPinnenjesse__: I'd say most likely not18:19
h3sp4wnjesse__: what does laptop mode entail ?18:20
johey[ifr0g]: I have backed up /home and /etc. I think I have backed up what I need except my mySQL databases.18:20
h3sp4wnjesse__: running the ondemand governor and changing it back if you are not logged into X ?18:20
jesse__h3sp4wn : it's tweaks for power management, mostly18:20
don_Hi, having a problem with the new Gutsy 7.10..18:20
RytmenPinnendon_: lets hear it18:21
tuco_I am giving up...going back to feisty.18:21
bojanhello, I just installed Gutsy (clean install from CD) on my slave drive. How do I mount my NTFS partition on my primary drive?  If I try to do it using Dolphin I get an error: "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused UID 1000"?18:21
h3sp4wnjesse__: 5.10 has better power management if you leave the default config than gutsy18:21
installationrlEven a big on-screen dialog saying ****YOUR CHANGES TO POWER MANAGEMENT SETTINGS HAVE BEEN RESET**** wouldn't be going too far tbh.18:21
michmm very friendly channel18:21
micjust a liittle bit too fast for me18:21
tysonswnosrednaekim: sry I am a real noob.. how do I unistall?18:21
don_OK< first, I did the upgrade thing, thru the net, after getting all 7.04 updates ( I read the instructions)  restarted after upgrade, was missing the kernel xx.22..  somehow18:21
nosrednaekimtysonsw: you ran the .run file, right?18:22
bojanby primary I meant master I'ts my windows install. I used to have Breezy before this, and I was able to mount my windows drive as Read only, although I forgot how I got it to work.18:22
nosrednaekimmic: sorry18:22
tysonswnosrednaekim: yepp18:22
don_so I downloaded and burned a CD of 7.10 Kubuntu from website, just installed it, all seemed fine, except my menuing18:22
don_for example, when I click on System, it gives a bunch of info, besides the name of the App18:22
nosrednaekimtysonsw: when it finished,it should have printed out a message about a location from which you could uninstall it... something like /usr/bin/ati or something18:23
AT0M1CB0MB3RHow do i uninstall win18:23
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwine18:23
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  how did you install it?18:23
nosrednaekimdon_: that sounds like GNOME18:23
don_"Entries in K-Menu Adept Package Manager".   stuff like that for every app18:23
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, apt-get remove --purge wine18:23
micnosrednaekim: ?18:23
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, better answer Dr_willis .. first18:23
nosrednaekimmic: sorry its too fast.... did you get lost in the scrollback?18:23
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: btw whats --purge meen18:23
tysonswnosrednaekim: no.. it only stated were I colud get the config file18:23
micnosrednaekim: no ;)18:24
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: im ignoring him18:24
tysonswnosrednaekim: if I remember correct18:24
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, remove the config files as well.18:24
mic(not yet) - indeed18:24
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: Oh18:24
nosrednaekimtysonsw: hmmmm I think it has something else... run it again,18:24
velvetfinchennabend zusammen18:24
lalalandeevery time i boot up kubuntu a get a message like: ..801] PCI:Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge 0000 :00 :1c.018:24
don_Gnome?     I doesn't like Gnome, LOL18:24
nosrednaekimtysonsw: it may be printed to the command line18:24
lalalandewhat is this?18:24
don_that's why I got Kubuntu18:24
* Dr_willis loves being ignored... 18:24
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwhat did Dr_willis say?18:24
[ifr0g]Awwee.18:24
nosrednaekimlalalande: don't worry about it... normal kernel messages18:24
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: im not ignoring you anymore :[18:25
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  how did you install it?18:25
nosrednaekimdon_: could you give a screen shot?18:25
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: you were jsut being meen yesterday18:25
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h3sp4wnDr_willis: Want a cookie ? (mit-magic-cookie)18:25
velvetfinchenoha deutsch gehört hir gar nidd her als sprachen *gg18:25
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Dr_willisI was? never noticed..18:25
[ifr0g]lol18:25
don_I'll sure try, one sec.....18:25
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: from the system settings menu18:25
Dr_willisYou dont want to know some of the... people i was having a heated discussion with in other channels. :)18:25
Dr_willisFire up the package manager and 'unselect' it - should work.18:26
tysonswnosrednaekim: the installation only state were the log file is18:26
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: [ifr0g] helped me already18:26
lalalandebut it takes about 2 min to boot up.. is this normal my pc is not old18:26
lalalande?18:26
nosrednaekimtysonsw: hmm ok, could you run "cat <path to log file>"in the terminal and pastebin it?18:27
nosrednaekimlalalande: are you sure tats the only error?18:27
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: the reason i uninstalled it is cause it doesnt notice my other harddrive (the one with windows on it)18:27
tysonswcat /usr/share/ati18:27
nosrednaekimlalalande: do "alt-f2" on boot and see what it hangs on.18:27
Dr_willisHmm.. Why does it need to notice the windows hard drive? wine dosent need a windows drive.18:27
lee__eh ok whats the comand line  for getting Xine ?18:27
lalalandehangs on?18:27
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: yes it does18:27
tysonswnosrednaekimhow do you mean pastebin?18:28
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, which guide did you follow ?18:28
nosrednaekimtysonsw: ah..there we go... in the terminal type "cd /usr/share/ati"18:28
don_OK< got it, finally...18:28
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  Huh? you trying to run a windows app from the windows drive? or what?18:28
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  you can run wine with no windoes installed at all.18:28
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: i didnt i just installed from system settings advanced menu18:28
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, Dr_willis is right ^18:28
tysonswnosrednaekim: ok..18:28
tysonswnow what+18:28
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AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: it made a fake windows drive when i already have a windows drive which i rather have it use18:29
nosrednaekimtysonsw: run "ls". there should be a file in there called "uninstall.sh" or something like that18:29
seregaHello, guys! I'm just from HelpingKubuntu wiki. I wish to help kubuntu with my programming skills. I'm senior C++ developer with some experience of Qt18:29
tysonswnosrednaekim: yes.. fglrx-uninstall.sh18:29
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  theres a wine config file then that you should change . by default wine uses the 'fake windows drive' in .wine/windows_drive or somthing like that.18:30
* Dr_willis installs wine to check18:30
Kr4t05Can anyone help me figure out why Dolphin didn't step in as the default file manager when I upgraded.18:30
nosrednaekimtysonsw: run "sudo sh fglrx-uninstall.dh"18:30
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: yeah it does18:30
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: but i dont want a fake one i rather have it use my real one18:30
Dr_willisbut it all depends on the specifics of what you are doing I guess.18:30
nosrednaekimKr4t05: you have to associate dolphin with the inode/folder MIMEtype18:30
Dr_willisusing the 'real one' has totally trashed windows on me in the past.18:30
don_OK, how do I send it to you, nored?18:31
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: oh :[18:31
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  you are proberly better off  by reinstalling the windows apps you wish to use with wine.18:31
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: i dont really care i guess18:31
tysonswnosrednaekim: .dh didn't work but sh did18:31
nosrednaekimdon_: hmmm good question.18:31
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nosrednaekimtysonsw: sorry... typo :)18:31
ardchoilleHow come making a change to an app's config as user automatically makes the same change the that app's config for root?18:31
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: im just going to copy the stuff i need from windows to my linux partion18:31
nosrednaekimtysonsw: it ran and uninstalled it?18:31
Kr4t05nosrednaekim: Thanks18:31
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: its a 500gb harddrive being wasted by windows being on it :[18:32
nosrednaekimardchoille: if you use kdesudo... it uses your config18:32
tysonswnosrednaekim: "restore of system enviroment complete" " Uninstall fglrx driver complete"18:32
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: can you do me a favor?18:32
nosrednaekimtysonsw: cool, now install the other driver18:32
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  Heh.. :)  more space for.. err.. vacation pics.18:32
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: what is it?18:32
seregalooks like "Introduce yourself" step was failed ;)18:33
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: ask ardchoille to unignore me18:33
tysonswnosrednaekim: that did I in the restricted manager or.. what it was called?18:33
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Well, that's new. I also noticed that /root/.kde/* are symlinks to my user's configs. That wasn't so in Feisty.18:33
AT0M1CB0MB3Rtell him to unignore little jon nosrednaekim18:33
nosrednaekimardchoille: oh... maybe thats why :)18:33
mbenedi#kubuntu_offtopic18:33
[ifr0g]dhq, hi18:33
nosrednaekimardchoille: LIL-Jon wants you to unignore him18:33
dhq[ifr0g], :) lol hi18:33
ardchoillenosrednaekim: I don't have anyone on ignore18:33
AT0M1CB0MB3Rardchoille: so you can see this text?18:34
ardchoilleyes18:34
[ifr0g]dhq, upgraded already ?18:34
dhq[ifr0g], did you find the bluetooth app18:34
AT0M1CB0MB3Roh18:34
dhq[ifr0g], well yes18:34
nosrednaekimtysonsw: run "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde" from the terminal18:34
[ifr0g]dhq, naa..18:34
don_I tried messaging, it won't let me..  LOL18:34
[ifr0g]dhq, but i did find some source18:34
dhq[ifr0g], well then help me out here18:34
nosrednaekimdon_: make a thread on the ubuntu forums.18:35
[ifr0g]dhq, bluetooth-alsa18:35
keoni86anyone know where i can get a copy of the kubuntu dvd at a relativly decent speed18:35
dhq[ifr0g], so what do we do with that18:35
don_AH,   ok... one sec......18:35
keoni86im getting only 10k/sec on bittorrent18:35
[ifr0g]dhq, compile it.18:35
Dr_williskeoni86,  what torrent?18:35
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: will bluetooth work with my phone which has bluetooth18:35
tysonswnosrednaekim: "bash: kdesudo: command wasn't found"18:35
Dr_williskeoni86,  i was getting 1000k/s yesterday on the ubuntu iso torrent. :)18:35
dhq[ifr0g], but will it work18:35
keoni86im trying to get dvd tho18:36
seregatysonw: kdesu18:36
nosrednaekimtysonsw: oh... you're not on gutsy?18:36
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, That is what i was guessing. if your phone has a hands-free profile18:36
* keoni86 is looking for which torrent it is18:36
tysonswnosrednaekim: no.. kubuntu18:36
PolitikerNEUI got a problem with an old kubuntu (7.04) live cd - I tried it on my Notebook, but it held with a blinking "_"18:36
nosrednaekimtysonsw: what does "lsb_release -a" say about your code name18:36
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, dhq  http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/18:36
dhqDr_willis, your so lucky18:36
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: i have a razr v318:36
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, wow,18:37
tysonswnosrednaekim: feisty18:37
nosrednaekimtysonsw: ah... ok. then run "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"18:37
dhq[ifr0g], will it work18:37
AT0M1CB0MB3Rardchoille holds grudges18:38
Dr_willisdhq,  i dident even think my cable could go that fast.18:38
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: why do you say wow?18:38
[ifr0g]dhq, i guess18:38
martoyatysonsw: the correct command is "kdesu" not "kdesudo"18:38
tysonswmartoya: thanks18:38
adlisyakirPolitikerNEU : why u don't try kubunt 7.1018:38
claydohJucato: kubuntuforums is back up :)18:38
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, v3 thats  new in the market18:38
Jucatoclaydoh: yay thanks!!18:39
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: not im america18:39
tysonswnosrednaekim: now it is installed.. and you are my god know becurse you know a lot of things :P18:39
dhqDr_willis, you must thank god you have that download speed ... here the max download speed we get is like 33lb/sec18:39
* ardchoille drags out his ignore list *sigh*18:39
[ifr0g]oh18:39
nosrednaekimtysonsw: I can't be your god.. sorry.18:39
tysonswnosrednaekim: to bad :p18:39
* AT0M1CB0MB3R thinks some people don't know how to forgive and forget18:39
nosrednaekimtysonsw: now run "kdesu restricted-manager18:39
Dr_willisdhq,  the most id ever seen befor on my connection was 400k/s - perhaps the isp has upgraded  for me.18:39
Dr_willisbecause i sawit was over 1000 and was like. 'that cant be rigth' then the download was done. :)18:40
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: so could v3 connect to my computer with bluetooth18:40
AT0M1CB0MB3R?18:40
dhqDr_willis, lucky you aint i rite [GuS]18:40
dhqDr_willis, lucky you aint i rite [ifr0g]18:40
keoni86Dr_willis: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/kubuntu-7.10-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent18:40
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, basically it should, with supported services in kbluetoothd18:40
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdhq: to type [ifr0g]'s name just type "if" then hit tab18:41
tysonswnosrednaekim: so now is the driver aktivated.. see you in a sec.. restart is law18:41
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: so i dont have to have bluetooth hardware18:41
nosrednaekimtysonsw: you told it to enable it?18:41
dhqAT0M1CB0MB3R, i have to type [ and tab as [ifr0g]  has the brackets :P18:41
tysonswnosrednaekim: yepp18:41
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, :P.. you need to have a bluetooth dougle18:41
nosrednaekimtysonsw: ok... yeah... reboot18:41
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: i dont have that :p18:42
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tyler_mautheHello all18:42
AT0M1CB0MB3R:[18:42
dhq[ifr0g], well so we both could compile it togeather18:42
ubunturos!hi | tyler_mauthe18:42
ubotutyler_mauthe: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:42
dhq[ifr0g], will be fun18:42
the-ermI'm having a weird problem.  I get sound, but no video on all my videos.   I used to be able to watch videos before I upgraded to gusty.18:42
ubunturoshey dhq18:42
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, Then sadly you wont be able to make the connection.. sorry :(18:42
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Dr_williskeoni86,  it could be a lot of people are not seeding that torrent also. I dont see much need for the 'dvd'18:42
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: its ight18:42
dhqubunturos, hey18:42
damianoshello18:42
keoni86whats even on it?18:42
[ifr0g]huh ?18:43
keoni86all the packages?18:43
dhqkeoni86, i dont find anything on the dvd18:43
DragnslcrAT0M1CB0MB3R- you can buy USB Bluetooth adapters fairly cheap18:43
Dr_williskeoni86,  ive never seen a good answer to whats on the dvd.. :) so i never use it18:43
tyler_mautheDuring the upgrade from feisty to gutsy I decided to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu.. I re-formatted everything so it was a clean/fresh install, but I am regretting making the switch now, because I am having trouble with almost everything...18:43
AT0M1CB0MB3RDragnslcr: thanks ill pick one up18:43
keoni86humm18:43
ardchoillekeoni86: The dvd is only a combination of the alternate and desktop cd's18:43
Dr_willisthers only 133 seedrs for that  dvd version. I would say stick witht eh cd.18:43
damianosIs it possible to connect via bluetooth from pc to mobile phone ?18:43
keoni86and that takes up 4gigs?18:43
damianosin new kubuntu ?18:43
dhqkeoni86, well i downloaded couple of the previous version on the dvd and i alwaays use net to install packages18:44
Dragnslcrdamianos- if you have a bluetooth adapter on your computer, yes18:44
ardchoillekeoni86: 2 cd's at 2gb each? ;)18:44
Dr_williskeoni86,  i was getting about 13k/s with that torrent also.18:44
dhqdamianos, well ofcousre it is possible18:44
tyler_mautheI can't play any movies in Kaffeine I guess would be the first issue I'd like to work on18:44
Dr_williskeoni86,  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/   shows the torrents and the # of seeders/leachers for each.18:44
keoni86lol, well i think ima just get the regular iso18:45
rock_`cant install 7.10 on my sata drive ?18:45
Dr_willisrock_`,  it isntalled on my sata drive fine.18:45
dhq[ifr0g], still waiting for your answer18:45
rock_`k18:45
dhqubunturos, you called :P18:45
Dr_willisrock_`,  unless you are having some sort of issues it should work on it.18:45
Road_killHey, I upgraded via the console. However, the Adept Manager still has the "Upgrade Version" button. How do I get rid of it?18:45
[ifr0g]dhq, Not in the mood to compile..:D18:46
tyler_mautherock_`: fine on mine as well18:46
rock_`i have some kind of problem installed ok on ied drive18:46
ubunturosdhq: just wanted to say "Hi" :)18:46
Dr_willisRoad_kill,  its a buglet.. ignore the button. :)18:46
Dr_willisthe shiny jolly button!18:46
rock_`bbl18:46
ardchoilledoes the kdesu gui have a cache timeout feature? If so, how can I change that timeout?18:46
dhq[GuS], please18:46
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: yeah i have that button too18:47
dhqubunturos, well nice of you to say hi to me so i will be nice to you and say hi to you18:47
dhq:p18:47
Dr_willisI recall some factoid that mentions the bug. basicially if your console sayss you are up to date then you are.18:47
Road_killOk good, at least we are not the only ones18:47
ubunturosdhq: hehe ...18:47
tyler_mautheWhen I first installed Kubuntu my menu's were all corrupted as well, I had to take the Description field out of all the icons in Kmenu for them to display properly..18:47
ubunturosdhq: btw, are you going to FOSS.IN/2007 this year?18:47
tyler_mautheShould I just try re-installing.. maybe my install is half-broken?18:47
[ka]killerbah im having some problems -_-18:48
Dr_willistyler_mauthe,  try making a new user. see if the issue happens with them also.18:48
[GuS]dhq: ?18:48
[ka]killermainly with video play back18:48
don_OK<  thread posted, with attached screenshot :)18:48
tyler_mautheDr_willis: ok.. brb18:48
dhq[GuS], buzzed you by mistake sorry18:48
Dr_willisoff to edit a wiki page..18:49
Dr_willis!compiz18:49
don_post name is        wizzard718:49
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion18:49
[ka]killerok so whats going on is im using kaffeine as i have been since i switched to kubuntu on festy with no problems, after i upgraded to gusty kaffeine will not play avi files at all, and mkv files only give me sound18:49
don_oh, did nored leave?18:49
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: how do you edit a wiki page so that means anybody can edit a wiki page?18:49
[ka]killerboth file types play in VLC but i dont like how VLC renders subtitles (cant make it better ive tried) and any other player the sound does not work18:49
ardchoilleI"m having trouble with Kopete connecting to my MSN messenger account. Any help with that?18:50
dhqubunturos, where in india will it be held18:50
ubunturosdhq: Bangalore, India - You aren't far away (are you?)18:50
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdoes anybody know why pidgin doesnt have any noise when people im me18:50
[ka]killercan anyone give me a hand? ive tried askign on the kaffeine forum but no one has responded to that thread yet18:50
dhqubunturos, i guess mangalore is not to far18:51
tyler_mautheDr_willis: I just created a new user and the menu's are screwed up18:51
awayubunturos: huh?18:51
ubunturosdhq: right18:51
saizai_Anyone know if there's an easy way to throttle CPU freq based on temp? Right now I use i8kctl+gkrellm to set fan speed, and cpufreq to set cpu depending on load, but since I still have major overheating issues I'd like to throttle by cputemp too...18:51
tyler_mauthe[ka]killer: I am having the same issue, kaffeine will not work18:51
ubunturosaway: your nick is a common word in english, you'll probably have to change it ;)18:51
dhqubunturos, well 6 hours away... will you come18:51
tyler_mauthe[ka]killer: I think it's related to the xine lib18:51
[ka]killertyler_mauthe: have you tried anyother players?18:51
ubunturosdhq: I'm not likely to make it this year :(18:51
tyler_mauthe[ka]killer: I have not tried vlc yet18:52
[ka]killeri tried reinstalling the xine lib and now everything else is f**ked up18:52
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dhqubunturos, your in india arent you18:52
ubunturosdhq: yes, in Mumbai18:52
AT0M1CB0MB3R!ohmy [ka]killer18:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ohmy [ka]killer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:53
AT0M1CB0MB3R!ohmy | [ka]killer18:53
ubotu[ka]killer: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.18:53
[ka]killertyler_mauthe: i tried the xine-ui player, which gives me video but no sound, kaffeine gives me a video codec error now -_- and VLC does a really crappy job rendering subs18:53
dhqubunturos, i finish my exams by20 nov and i will be back in mumbai by 23 i guess18:53
[ka]killer?18:53
ubunturosdhq: ah, would be glad to meet you, if we both can co-ordinate :)18:53
tysonswanyone have a tip on how I could get my wireless to work? I have tried alot of things but wont connect.. even if I got the right password18:53
dhqubunturos,  well i have to see if i can extend for foss18:53
[ka]killerhey im censoring my self more then normal >=O18:53
ubunturosDHq18:53
Dr_willisYea. i edited the compiz wiki entry with a kubuntu specific bit.18:53
Assidsup18:54
[ka]killerim just getting really anoyed at this not working18:54
dhqubunturos, yes18:54
tyler_mauthe[ka]killer: OIC .. mine just crashes, the backtrace always implicates the xine libraries18:54
ubunturosdhq: FOSS.IN/2007 is from 4th to 8 Dec 200718:54
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: help me with pidgin please :]18:54
[ifr0g]awee. :(18:54
[ka]killeryah, i tried reinstalling the xine lib (1.1.8, then 1.1.7)18:54
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  my use of pidgen is very limited. whats the issue?18:54
tyler_mautheAT0M1CB0MB3R: Why would you use pidgin when you could use Kopete??18:54
[ka]killerand that just screwed it up worse18:54
dhqubunturos, this is the official channel for kubuntu could we take this topic to #dhqifx18:54
[ifr0g]Why dont we have foss in kuwait :*(18:54
AT0M1CB0MB3Rtyler_mauthe: cause its acting up closes on msn18:55
h3sp4wntyler_mauthe: I think alot of people are having issues with kopete after upgrading 7.04 -> 7.1018:55
tysonswanyone have a tip on how I could get my wireless to work? I have tried alot of things but wont connect.. even if I got the right password18:55
tyler_mautheHmm I haven't tried it yet come to think of it18:55
wesleycompiz does not work i got a intel card18:55
h3sp4wntyler_mauthe: personally I guess just recreating its config would be fine but thats just a though18:55
h3sp4wnt18:55
[ka]killertysonsw: is knetworkmanager displaying your wireless connection?18:55
tysonswno18:55
Tm_Th3sp4wn: issues? msg me about it and i'll look at it when i get home thanks18:56
tyler_mautheThe reason I switched to Kubuntu from Ubuntu was because KDE has better programs, namely Kopete and Amarok18:56
[ka]killeri know this problem i had it in 7.0418:56
ThePianoGu1is it normal that .deb installer for kde crashes in default gutsy?18:56
wesleywhere can i get beryl now?18:56
ThePianoGu1(eats all ram)18:56
tysonsw[ka]killer: ok.. how do I fix it?18:56
[ka]killergo to the manual configure disable your wireless and reenable it18:56
[ka]killerthat should let it connect18:56
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: it doesnt have a noise when people im me or i im people18:56
tyler_mautheAh yep18:57
[ka]killerbeyond that the only solution i came up with (mind you it was an on-the-fly fix on vacation) was to write a script to disable/re-enable it for me18:57
tyler_mautheKopete crashes on MSN for me too18:57
tyler_mauthegreat.18:57
[ka]killerhave you tried pidgin?18:57
tyler_mautheUbuntu here I come I guess..18:57
dhqtyler_mauthe, kopete sux as it uses alot of resources18:57
tyler_mauthe[ka]killer: If I'm going to use Pidgin I might as well switch back to ubuntu :|18:57
wesleytyler you can fix that theres a bug fix out18:57
[ka]killer=/18:57
dhqtyler_mauthe, pidgin is good but you have to risk for its limited features18:57
[ka]killerkopote was giving me problems so i switched to pidgin18:58
[ifr0g]Any one here from kuwait ?18:58
tyler_mauthedhq: I got plenty of resources, let it suck!18:58
dhqtyler_mauthe, and memory :P18:58
wesleytyler do you use 32 bit or 64?18:58
tyler_mauthe3218:58
[ifr0g]:)18:59
[ka]killerhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jonjim9096/errorkaffeine.png18:59
wesleyhttp://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb18:59
ThePianoGu1does deb installer in kubuntu work for you guys?18:59
wesleytyler thats the bug fix for kopete18:59
tyler_mauthewesley: thank you sir :)18:59
wesleyyes the deb installer works18:59
[ka]killerthats the error i receive when i try to open any video file in kaffeine18:59
tyler_mautheNow if only Kaffeine would play movies ..18:59
ThePianoGu1the gdebi installer I mean with kde frontend?18:59
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  odd. i know my stepdaughter was using it on Yahoo and it beeped at her last night when she got messages.  Check/explore all the settings is about all i can suggest.18:59
wesleytyler i had the same problem so i did google it a few days ago19:00
dhqtyler_mauthe, wats the problem with kaffiene19:00
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: i think im gonig to use kopet or whatever but whats the fix for the bug19:00
tyler_mauthedhq: it crashes when I try to play a movie19:00
[ka]killerdhq: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jonjim9096/errorkaffeine.png19:00
arianehello. i just installed compiz fusion and the cube plugin isn't working. i found out it was because xgl wasn't "present" and i wanted to know how to enable it ? could someone give me a hand on this please ?19:01
Dr_willisAT0M1CB0MB3R,  i didetn fix anything.  It beeps at her when she gets a message. could be uits trying to use a sound file that dosent exist.19:01
tyler_mauthedhq: that's not my error.. my error is that kaffeine causes signal 1119:01
dhqtyler_mauthe, try reinstalling the xine engines19:02
wesleyi wanna have beryl does anyone know how to get beryl19:02
tysonsw[ka]killer: After I hade activated it.. it deactivates itself19:02
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis: no im talking about the fix for the bug with kopet19:02
[ka]killero_O19:02
tyler_mauthedhq: how to do ?19:02
Dr_willisI dont use Kopete sorry. no idea about its bugs.19:02
tyler_mautheAT0M1CB0MB3R: did you try the bugfix that wesley suggested?19:02
Dr_willisI use xchat for my irc needs. i dont do yahoo or the other stuff. any more. :)19:02
[ka]killerim using konversation for now19:03
[ka]killeri used to use xchat19:03
h3sp4wnWhy not just use bitlbee and irc19:03
Dr_willisHanging out in the Yahooo Linux chat room  - is a whole different Zoo. :)19:03
h3sp4wne.g irssi19:03
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwheres the bug fix19:03
dhqDr_willis, it sux19:04
tyler_mauthedo you have a 32bit or 64bit?19:04
tysonswcan anyone hlp me with my wireless?? it keps to deactivate itself O.o19:04
h3sp4wnAT0M1CB0MB3R: deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free19:05
[ka]killerum... do youhave the right drivers installed?19:05
h3sp4wnAT0M1CB0MB3R: (Almost certainly the fix is there)19:05
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tysonsw[ka]killer: were19:05
noamwell, there's konversation19:05
tyler_mauthedhq: I have an understanding of apt.. I just don't know the package names for the xine engines..19:05
AT0M1CB0MB3Rno somebody was saying they had the fix like 2 days ago19:05
* away is back.19:06
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AT0M1CB0MB3Rand they posted it like every half hour19:06
tysonsw[ka]killer: the problem is that I dodn't know the creator.. so its a little problem there.. its a acer laptop19:06
[ka]killerhumm19:06
h3sp4wntyler_mauthe: so you need to know the regexp's for apt-cache ?19:06
dhqtyler_mauthe, adept or synaptics would be a good place to start19:06
noamשש19:06
h3sp4wntyler_mauthe: The aptitude regexp's are much easier to use19:06
h3sp4wntyler_mauthe: aptitude search xine~nengine19:07
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AT0M1CB0MB3Ri have 29 acheivments19:07
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwow wrong box19:07
tyler_mautheh3sp4wn: that returned nothing19:07
Kr4t05Guh... Is there a working fusion-icon package for Gutsy?19:07
bartsangreetings19:08
[ka]killeris it normal for adept to still show the version upgrade after ive done the upgrade?19:08
bartsaneartsomes19:08
NickPrestaI've backed up /home, is there anything else I should backup that has important settings or anything similar? /etc?19:08
King_JereMy KDM screen is using what I think is called virtual screen size. i.e. move the  mouse to the edge of the screen to pan left and right. Are the settings for this in xorg.conf or elswhere?19:08
lalalandeany download good manager for kubuntu?19:09
_StefanS_lalalande: kget ?19:09
tyler_mauthedhq: thanks.. I was wondering what the Kubuntu equivalent of Synaptic was.. I'll be able to manage with this19:09
NickPrestalalalande, kget..19:09
NickPrestatyler_mauthe, Adept19:09
_StefanS_lalalande: I believe there's some java ones as well19:09
h3sp4wntyler_mauthe: just get libxine1-plugins (or look at its dependancies) if the gnome one pulls in too much junk19:10
dhqtyler_mauthe, no problem19:10
[ka]killeri have libxine1-plugins installed and mine still does not work19:10
kaminixIf I just aptitude remove the files I installed KDE 4 with I'll be okay, right?19:12
[ka]killershould be19:13
h3sp4wn[ka]killer: have you got the ffmpeg plugin (should be a dependancy of that)19:13
[ka]killeryes19:13
[ka]killerkaffeine-xine                                   install19:14
[ka]killerlibxine1                                        install19:14
[ka]killerlibxine1-console                                install19:14
[ka]killerlibxine1-ffmpeg                                 install19:14
[ka]killerlibxine1-gnome                                  install19:14
[ka]killerlibxine1-plugins                                install19:14
[ka]killerlibxinerama-dev                                 install19:14
[ka]killerlibxinerama1                                    install19:14
stdin!paste | [ka]killer19:14
ubotu[ka]killer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:14
ubunturos!pastebin | [ka]killer:19:14
ubotu[ka]killer:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:14
[ka]killerok...19:14
tyler_mauthelol19:14
[ka]killerim new to this channel/network give me a break19:15
tyler_mauthethey just did ;)19:15
[ka]killergood point19:15
Daisuke_Idoyou're still expected to read the topic19:15
Daisuke_Idono matter though19:15
[ka]killeri didnt see the thing about large pastes19:15
tyler_mautheI reinstalled everything that looked like it was to do with xine engine or xine plugins or whatever and Kaffeine still crashes, signal 1119:15
noam_anyone having troubles connecting google talk with kopete on gutsy?19:17
stdinnope, works here19:17
noam_argh19:18
King_JereHow do I change the screen resolution for kdm?19:18
stdin!resolution19:18
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto19:18
owner_I downloaded Kubuntu alternate version and did not see an upgrade option....I am on Kubuntu 7.0419:18
kaminixWhy are there no i686 architecture for Ubuntu?19:19
Zeelothey guys, I just installed kubuntu 7.10 on a machine and installed KDE4, but when I try starting a kde4 session its completely unusable, the start menu is blank basically the- -only thing that shows is something at the top left, any ideas?19:19
kaminixZeelot: That's KDE 4 Beta 3 for you.19:19
stdinkaminix: because "i386" just means 32bit19:19
kaminixstdin: But a bunch of other distros use i686 architecture?19:20
tyler_mautheThe backtrace of the crash that Kaffeine causes says it's "from /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.7/xineplug_vo_out_xcbxv.so"19:20
Dr_willisI think they are missleadign terms. :)19:20
Zeelotkaminix yea I know, jus wondering if it was a simple problem before I gave up and waited for kde4 to actually come out...really wanted to try it19:20
stdinkaminix: the "i386" packages are actually i486 packages19:20
owner_How do I upgrade from the alternate version Kubuntu CD when there is no option there? I run Ubuntu and Kubuntu 7.0419:20
Dr_willisi686 means a Pent+ dosent it?19:21
Jaearesskaminix: I believe the core devs tested the speed gained from compiling for 686 compared with 386/486 and found practically no difference so they only go with 386 now.19:21
stdinkaminix: it's like that so the packages will run on most/all CPU's19:21
tysonswanyone know a way to make my wireless stop deactivating itself?19:21
kaminixZeelot: Try rightclicking the desktop and run some cool apps :)19:21
kaminixI see...19:21
stdinowner_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-93ac2e597b9e0c5ff78111d4fd2bbe34a35799c719:21
tyler_mautheOoook.. No point barking up the Kaffeine tree I guess.. next problem..19:22
JaearessDr_willis: 686 means Pentium 3 & 419:22
Dr_willisJaearess, ok. :) i never could rember that.19:23
NickPrestais there anything I should backup besides, all of /home (my documents, etc), xorg.conf, menu.lst, and any other configuration files I wanted to keep?19:23
h3sp4wnThings can make a difference its just software being inefficient19:23
owner_Do you upgrade to 7.10 from bootup?19:23
tyler_mautheMy volume control on my keyboard was working up until about an hour ago, now it just allows me to pick between 0% and 11% and it's in a different GUI than before.. before it just flashed the Kmix dialogue as it changed.. now it's just a grey box in the centre of the screen that says Volume: and then a bar with the % in it19:23
stdinowner_: no, from the installed system19:23
h3sp4wn(e.g mplayer, imlib2, openssl) do make differences by being optimised or running 64 bit19:23
owner_oh-ok-I was trying to insert cd before turning it on19:24
tyler_mauthe[ka]killer: VLC did work to play my movie.. but it's choppy19:24
owner_Will it ubgrade Ubunu as well?19:24
[ka]killeryah19:24
tysonswanyone know a way to make my wireless stop deactivating itself?19:25
[ka]killerVLC plays mine also, but its choppy and teh subs are rendered verry poorly19:25
tyler_mauthe[ka]killer: is there a green strip at the top as well?19:25
[ka]killernot on mine19:26
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tyler_mauthe[ka]killer: probably just the specific movie I was playing caused that19:26
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwhats the fix for kopete19:27
tysonswhow do I zoom out in compiz?19:27
dvayanuhi19:27
tyler_mautheAT0M1CB0MB3R: do you have 32bit or 64bit?19:27
AT0M1CB0MB3R3219:27
dvayanui asked yesterday already and trying to re-ask, how can i make the fonts under gutsy look same way as they looked under edgy and feisty?19:27
tyler_mautheAT0M1CB0MB3R: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb19:28
vltHello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?19:28
tyler_mautheAT0M1CB0MB3R: that got it working for me19:28
AT0M1CB0MB3Rtyler_mauthe: thanks19:28
tysonswhow do I zoom out in compiz?19:28
tyler_mauthetysonsw: should be the opposite of how you zoomed in19:28
stdintysonsw: compiz help in #compiz-fusion19:28
tyler_mautheand what he said :P19:29
martin_help please.. i installed a new theme and now my taskbar screwed up... it sits at the right side of the screen and looks totally irky.. if i move it to the bottom, all buttons just disappear.. what can i do?19:29
Dr_willistysonsw,  windows key/ mouse wheel i thought.  Check the compiz settigns manager tool and see what bindings it has setup19:29
tyler_mautheAnyone help with volume control issue??19:29
Dr_williscompiz really needs a nice 'show me all the shortcut keys'  tool.19:30
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kousotuwhat packages do I need for compiz-fusion?19:33
redshadowherosooooo... the user of this computer has managed to lock it in 640 x 480 resolution... how would I fix this?19:33
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kousotuwhat packages do I need for compiz-fusion?19:34
stdin!compiz19:35
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:35
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kousotuty19:36
kousotuum....19:37
kaminixDo I have to register my nick? :(19:37
tyler_mautheAnyone help with volume control issue in Kubuntu 7.10???19:37
kousotuthere's something missing in those instructions19:37
[ka]killerhow about general xine screwed upedness19:37
Admiral_Chicago!register19:37
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration19:37
Admiral_Chicagokaminix: well you do /msg nickserv register YOURPASSWORD19:37
kousotukaminix: /ns register <password> <email>19:37
kaminixWhat are these folders in the Amarok shared scriptfolder? common  ruby_debug  templates19:37
kaminixI know how I do it, but why? :p19:37
Admiral_Chicagooh, well you don't19:38
Admiral_Chicagoits useful only if you plan to private message someone19:38
kaminixI was sent or invited to #ubuntu-unreg...19:38
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i don't know anything about that19:39
Dr_willisstdin,  i even edited that wiki page. :) with a Kubuntu note. Not sure what other notes to make on it for Kubuntu.19:39
HomeRoeyHI!19:39
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[ka]killeranyone else having problems with xine?19:39
RoeyI have a Logitech MX-1000 mouse; I'm on Gutsy Gibbon.  WHy doesn't GG set up all the mouse buttons correctly?19:39
Dr_willisRoey,  theres way to much varity/quirks with those multibutton mice.19:40
[ka]killeri have a razor copper head, and no matter wht i try it refuses to map 2 of my buttons19:40
noam_define correctly19:40
Dr_willisI do recall some Mouse tools out that might help.19:40
RoeyDr_willis:  ah19:40
BluesKajthe quebec repos for canadian users should be dumped in favour one that can handle a bit of a load ...it's terribly slow and has been for months19:40
Dr_williscorrectly for me = set Quake to use buytton 4 for grenades and 5 for medpacks.19:40
Dr_willis:)19:40
stdinDr_willis: looks fine, I'd rather someone who uses it edit's it :p (rather than me)19:40
RoeyDr_willis:  well the basic thing is this:  now it seems that even my trusty .xbindkeysrc doesn't seem to work.19:41
Roeyarg.19:41
[ka]killeratleast it still lets 5/6 control dpi on the fly19:41
dvayanubtw will GG recognize ipods?19:41
Dr_willisstdin,  i just recall that when enabling that flatfile option. the 'focus' options that give people issues - seem to 'get fixed' automaticially.  Not sure how detailed i should get on every little thing.19:41
Admiral_ChicagoBluesKaj: the US one is slow too...19:41
BluesKajAdmiral_Chicago, 10 mins to install samba ?19:42
Dr_willis[ka]killer,  the dpi button on my mouse ONLY set the dpi. :) no way to change them since its in the hardware of the mouse.19:42
[ka]killeryah, with the software i can change it, but i like having them19:42
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[ka]killerlets me jump from 800 to 2k =P19:42
Admiral_Chicagookay, thats too slow19:42
Dr_willisThese new mice are getting WAY WAY too many 'things' on them.19:42
[ka]killerlol19:42
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis: you sound very old saying that....19:43
[ka]killeri have 2 dpi buttons and 2 buttons on teh left i want to use for forward/backwards when browsing19:43
gameforgeI'm trying to install Kubuntu Gutsy on an IBM Thinkpad T42, and it gets to about 60% and it shuts down (I hear a beep, switch to a console and see "System Going Down Now" message).  I see no error.  Any ideas?  Should I try the alternate CD?19:43
[ka]killerbut i cant get them to bind correctly >_<19:43
Admiral_Chicagowhen I was a kid, we didn't even have mice, and forget a graphical system19:43
Dr_willisThat new 'free wheeling' scroll wheel - thats out is 'ok' but left/right scrolling tilt wheel. is a bit annoying. :)19:43
lee986321!pastebin19:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:43
[ka]killeri <3 my copper head19:43
* runlevelten wishes s african and english rugby fans good luck and watches :)19:44
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  i rember when a 'wheel on the mouse' was a fancy new thing that had to be set up manually under linux19:44
[ka]killerxD19:44
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kousotuwhat packages are needed for Compiz-fusion (including setup packages)19:44
Jucato!compiz | kousotu19:45
ubotukousotu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:45
stdinkousotu: the link ubotu gave has a list19:45
kousotuJucato: I read that19:45
Dr_willisCOmiz is the new faq #1 :)19:45
kousotuthere's a package I know is missing for the instructions19:45
tysonswhow do I activate " the universe component"???19:45
Dr_williskousotu,  whats not clear about  it? been editing that page a little.19:45
Dr_willisHmm..19:45
Dr_willis!find compiz19:45
ubotuFound: compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (and 15 others)19:45
Dr_willis!find kde-compiz19:45
ubotuPackage/file kde-compiz does not exist in gutsy19:46
stdin!info compiz-kde19:46
ubotucompiz-kde: OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 88 kB, installed size 228 kB19:46
the-ermHas anyone had problems playing video since they upgraded to gusty ?19:46
tysonswhow do I activate " the universe component"???19:46
Dr_williscompiz-kde and emerald - i THINK are the only 2 needed.19:46
kousotuDr_willis: it thatone package I got nabed about when I tried on T519:46
gameforgeWhat's the difference between the regular and "alternate" CD images?19:46
tysonswhow do I activate " the universe component"???19:47
steinerhippohi everybody, is it normal, that when i cut a file from my kubuntu desktop and place it in a other directory, that it still exists on the desktop? i have to delete it manually, but when i do the whole cut operation in dolphin, it works, i use kubuntu 7.10. thanx for every help19:47
dvayanudr_willis: is reboot or x-server restart needed19:47
the-ermgameforge: if you insert the alt cd it should update19:47
kousotugameforge: reg: shows graphical install interface - alt. does not19:47
[ka]killerok besides my xine problems19:47
Dr_willisdvayanu,  for compiz - you run the compiz --replace option to enable it.19:47
tysonswhow do I activate " the universe component"???19:47
the-erm[ka]killer: what are your xine problems?  I'm having playing video in general problems19:47
kousotuDr_willis: can I pm you?19:47
[ka]killerits only seeing my usb cd bruner19:47
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41380/ >>>>>>>>>>>will it work<<<<<<<<<<yes or know>>>>>>>>19:47
Dr_willisNot sure of the 'proper' way to get compiz to start at login however with kde.19:47
[ka]killerthe-erm: thats the general problem19:47
gameforgeso if the regular one gets to 60% copying files and shuts the computer down with no error (only a "going down now" msg on console) should I try the alternate image?19:47
[ka]killeras a mass storage device, not a cd burner19:48
Dr_williskousotu,  you can try. :) i gotta run real soon to the post office.19:48
lee986321eh oops typo19:48
the-erm[ka]killer: so are you seeing videos with vertical lines?19:48
dvayanuaehm19:48
[ka]killerfor me all programs that rely on xine are all screwed up and wont play anyhting19:48
kousotuDr_willis: I'm sure it won't take all day ;P19:48
dvayanui have no window-titles anymore :-)19:48
[ka]killerthe-erm: no im not seeing video at all >_<19:48
tysonswhow do I activate " the universe component"???19:48
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the-ermodd same here [ka]killer.19:48
[ka]killerits an xine problem19:48
Dr_willis!universe19:48
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu19:49
yendorI'm trying to configure my laptop to support dual screen with desktop extension...my laptop is widescreen while the second monitor is 4:3... but it won't let me...can you help me please?19:49
steinerhippoam i the only one who has this failure?19:49
moofoohello, is there something like Treviño's repo for gutsy? (eg. with a recent avidemux 2.4 snapshot)19:49
tysonswDr_willis event not found19:49
the-ermyet in fiesty it worked fine.  Odd thing is I can play .flv videos fine in firefox via a flash player.19:49
[ka]killersame19:49
[ka]killerhave you tried VLC?19:49
Ashex!xchat > me19:49
Dr_willistysonsw,  !universe is a BOT command.. not a command you put in the shell19:49
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41380/ will it work..preparing to restart system19:50
Dr_willis!universe | tysonsw19:50
ubotutysonsw: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu19:50
[ka]killerfor me VLC plays the videos but i dont like how it renders subtitles (and 90% of the things i have are subed)19:50
Ashexanyone ever had the issue of the channels not changing colors with activity in xchat?19:50
dvayanude_willis: compiz obviously started, but my windows have no title anymore19:50
lee986321lol19:50
Dr_willisdvayanu,  thats why emerald needs to be installed i belive19:50
dvayanuwill it be active automatically next session? or can i select it as session?19:50
Dr_willisdvayanu,  it will NOT get started automaticially.19:50
dvayanuemerald is already the newest version.19:50
gameforgeIs there a way I can watch the console output of the Kubuntu setup (setting up from CD)?19:50
dvayanudr_willis: i did19:50
lee986321fine restaarting19:50
maverickis there a way to increase the size of my ubuntu installation19:51
BluesKajAdmiral_Chicago, I exaggerated ...it only took 9 mins :)19:51
maverick?!19:51
Dr_willisI followed the docs at !compiz - not sure what else was needed.  let me check19:51
Dr_willis!compizx19:51
Dr_willis!compiz19:51
keoni86ew/quit19:51
lee986321i am guessing its ok...won't be any different then befo19:51
dvayanui installed compiz, compiz-kde and emerald19:51
lee986321BLSOD coming up19:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compizx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:51
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:51
[ka]killerwakarimasen19:51
lee986321see ya all after  the reformat19:51
kousotulee986321: blsod?19:51
stdinlee986321: why did you install restricted-manager and not restricted-manager-kde ?19:51
steinerhippohi everybody, is it normal, that when i cut a file from my kubuntu desktop and place it in a other directory, that it still exists on the desktop? i have to delete it manually, but when i do the whole cut operation in dolphin, it works, i use kubuntu 7.10. thanx for every help19:52
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lee986321stdin eh be cause no one said i neede to?19:52
[ka]killeri should have stayed on festy -_-19:52
yendorI need to setup my primary screen on 1280x800 and the second sreen to 2048x1024 with desktop extension...it wont let me..can you help me?19:52
lee986321and this was my first atempt19:52
maverickIs there a way to increase the size of my -already installed- ubuntu drive??19:53
stdinlee986321: restricted-manager is the gnome version, restricted-manager-kde is the kde one, and puts an entry in system settings19:53
maverickwithout having to reformat19:53
mavericklike using Partiton magic for example19:53
lee986321kousotu "Black Screen O Death19:53
gameforgestenerhippo: I just tried it, and it worked for me... created a new file on my desktop, right click -> Cut, then went to my home folder in Konqueror and pasted it - it removed it from the desktop.  Using fresh upgraded Gutsy/7.10.19:53
kousotuah...19:53
lee986321stdin ehrgh19:53
WaltzingAlongmaverick: black screen of death is only true for those who know nothing about ctrl+alt+f119:54
lee986321can it be fixed?19:54
dithi_maverick: yes19:54
steinerhippogameforge: and if you use the standard file manager dolphin? like me?19:54
moofoowhat are aptitude-create-state-bundle  aptitude-run-state-bundle  used for? they just annoy when tab-completing aptitude so i wonder if its safe to delete/rename them?!19:54
lee986321stdin can it be fixed?19:54
dithi_maverick: did you delete another partition? or do you want to shrink a partition too?19:54
stdinlee986321: remove restricted-manager then install restricted-manager-kde, simple19:54
lee986321I treid and treid to get help earlier buit...19:54
gameforgewait, so go the desktop in Dolphin and cut a file, then paste it somewhere else (in Dolphin)?19:54
steinerhippono19:54
lee986321stdin ok how do i do that?19:55
maverickdithi_: my ubuntu partiton is only 8.2 GB and it got filled up i just want to increase the size to like 20 GB or so...19:55
lee986321everyhings been keyed in19:55
Dr_willis!compiz19:55
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:55
steinerhippogameforge cut it on desktop without dolphin (strg+x) and then paste it in dolphin somewhere else19:55
dithi_maverick: there is another partition in the same hard drive?19:55
stdinlee986321: sudo apt-get remove restricted-manager && sudo apt-get install restricted-manager-kde     (if you're on gutsy)19:55
livingdaylighti was reading documentation on kubuntu.com it says i can install kubuntu-desktop from my gnome environment. but isn't a fresh or clean install from kubuntu cd different than adding kubuntu desktop from ubuntu??19:55
livingdaylighti have ubuntu on desktop and laptop but i'm considering kubuntu for laptop to see what kde looks like19:55
livingdaylightis Kubuntu basically an iferior os to Ubuntu? the Ubuntu homepage looks soooo much more profesisional than the kubuntu homepage19:56
maverickdithi_: how can i do it without risking my existing ubuntu installation ?!19:56
tysonswDr_willis I cant find a way to use it19:56
gameforgestenerhippo: ah ok, lemme try19:56
livingdaylightwould somene like to answer any of my questions?19:56
maverickdithi_: yeah19:56
livingdaylightif i want to check out kde should i rather go to pclos?19:56
Dr_willistysonsw,  use what?  im chatting in other channels. :)19:56
lee986321yeah i am19:56
livingdaylighti was reading documentation on kubuntu.com it says i can install kubuntu-desktop from my gnome environment. but isn't a fresh or clean install from kubuntu cd different than adding kubuntu desktop from ubuntu??19:56
maverickdithi_: 3 other NTFS partitions19:56
yendorI need to setup my primary screen on 1280x800 and the second sreen to 2048x1024 with desktop extension...it wont let me..can you help me?19:56
gameforgestenerhippo: Ah hah!  Nope, it didn't remove it from the desktop.19:56
dithi_livingdaylight: ubuntu and kubuntu has the same base system, the only differences are the desktop and some apps for them19:56
dvayanudr_willis: hmm.... killing x switched off the system... i found out i was missing the config package19:57
livingdaylighti have ubuntu on desktop and laptop but i'm considering kubuntu for laptop to see what kde looks like19:57
livingdaylightis Kubuntu basically an iferior os to Ubuntu? the Ubuntu homepage looks soooo much more profesisional than the kubuntu homepage19:57
steinerhippogameforge: ok thanx, so i think it's a general bug -.-19:57
tysonswDr_willis use universe.. I am trying to use compiz.. but it wont work.. in the compiz channel it said that I needed to activate universe.. but I don't know how19:57
steinerhippogameforge:  i hope the fix it19:57
livingdaylightdithi_, no... already i haer that kubuntu doesn't come with compiz by default like ubuntu does19:57
Dr_willistysonsw,  fire up the package manager, under the repiositories settings is a check box.19:57
stdinlivingdaylight: that's because we put more effort in to the software than the website ;)19:57
livingdaylightstdin, but ubuntu manage to put effort into both?19:58
gameforgesteinerhippo: indeed... that's annoying - Dolphin's kinda new, so I'm sure they'll fix it soon19:58
Dr_willistysonsw,  should be some check boxc's some where.. they seem to always get moved around.19:58
dithi_livingdaylight: ubuntu already has everything, it's just that the cd contents don't include everything in the repository19:58
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: yes it is different just in that other software would not be installed19:58
yendorok thanks for not noticing19:58
lrwI ran the version upgrade from within Adept Manager.... it downloaded all 1406 packages, but then crapped out. is there anyway to finish the upgrade without re-fetching all the packages?19:58
dhqlivingdaylight, well ubuntu+kde=kubuntu so double the features19:58
steinerhippogameforge: i also think so, it will part of kde4, they can't let it unfixed19:58
livingdaylightthe question if i add kubuntu desktop it will mess up how my gnome ubuntu looks if i choose to remove it later19:59
dithi_livingdaylight: it's easy to install compiz fusion in kubuntu19:59
stdinlivingdaylight: canonical designed ubuntu.com, they don't pay for kubuntu.com design19:59
BluesKajlivingdaylight, you wany eye candy like windows , try compiz-fusion19:59
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: not necessarily19:59
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ stdin like this?19:59
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  gnome and kubuntu both will share the same compiz settings. thats somthing to watchout for.19:59
dithi_livingdaylight: each desktop saves its appearance options in a different place19:59
bourgoisYou no longer need to go back to gnome once you try KDE19:59
stdinlee986321: that's a link to pastebins main page...20:00
livingdaylightdithi_, i'm sure a long time ago i tried kubuntu desktop and then it messed up my gnome desktop when i removed it20:00
dhqboeroe, your rite gnome sux20:00
livingdaylighthas that changed?20:00
livingdaylightWaltzingAlong, what not necessarily?20:00
lee986321stdin oops corecting it20:00
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: not sure what happened before but sure you can run 'ubuntu-desktop' without 'kubuntu-desktop'20:00
livingdaylight BluesKaj in ubuntu cd compiz comes with live cd by default, not in kubuntu?20:00
lee986321http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41384/ is this betterreading lol stdin20:01
livingdaylightWaltzingAlong, so you assure me 100% i can add kubuntu desktop from Ubuntu and kubuntu will come separate from ubuntu without messing or interfiring with it?20:01
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stdinlivingdaylight: install "kubuntu-desktop" with aptitude, the if you want to remove it, use aptitude to do it. aptitude keeps track of dependencies better, so when you remove a package with aptitude it'll remove the packages that were installed because of it20:01
dithi_maverick: you must resize or remove another partition in order to enlarge your ubuntu partition20:02
livingdaylighti just thought maybe better to do a clean install of kubuntu if i want to try it rather than going the add kubuntu desktop route20:02
ctwHi!20:02
lee98632112 oclock and it like its 4 pm...erg its getting dark out side20:02
livingdaylightstdin, thx, that is a good tip20:02
ctwDoes anybody else here have problems with a dual monitor setup in Gutsy?20:02
maverickdithi_: i know... the question is using what tool?!!20:02
Dr_willisctw,  thats a bit vague. :)20:02
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: for me it helps to think of them as ubuntuG ubuntuK and ubuntuX (with the others like EDU) but the ubuntu flagship is centered around GNOME. canonical supports kubuntu which is the same base but with kde as the front end20:02
ctwIt worked fine in Feisty, but broke in Gutsy20:02
livingdaylightctw, yes20:02
dithi_maverick: did you try qtparted or gparted?20:02
lee986321stdin eh I created a thing taht said correction made kinda like a book mark20:02
BluesKajlivingdaylight, not that I'm aware...i wouldn't use it anyway20:02
Dr_willisctw,  I have my nvidia cards set with twinview working decently well.20:02
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: whichever you installed latest will set the defaults i think so you will then see the 'kubuntu' name when booting20:03
dithi_ctw: which card do you use?20:03
maverickdithi_: no, but am using Kubuntu (sorry for not mentioning before) i guess i can use qparted20:03
ardchoilleI cannot seem to find the package: libxine-extracodecs. Has the name changed?20:03
livingdaylightWaltzingAlong, i do understand that, but because they come with different applications and libraries i found they get meshed together and not easy to disentangle after20:03
dithi_maverick: it's qtparted20:03
ctwdithi_: intel 915, i810 driver20:03
BluesKajardchoille, yes libxine1-ffmpeg or some thing like it20:03
dithi_hm.. no idea, I always used twinview with nvidia-settings20:03
lee986321if I need to I ca nload the 64 bit verson of Ubuntu and pratcie with that20:04
[ka]killeri have libxine1-ffmpeg installed and im still haivn gproblems20:04
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: use something like aptitude to install the others; yeah different as much as works with both is there already but for media player, for system settings, and for other such things gnome (ubuntu) has its set and kde (kubuntu) has its set20:04
ardchoilleBluesKaj: Ah, that package is there. Thank you.20:04
mayecohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/15503220:04
mayecothis is a security bug20:04
mayecoplease someone reproduce that -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/15503220:04
lee986321stdin is it all good for a restart/?20:04
dhqbluetooth20:04
ctwDr_willis: Here's the more detailed bug-report I filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/15503420:05
stdinlee986321: that looks ok, go for it20:05
lee986321ok,20:05
ardchoillemayeco: That link requires login20:05
lee986321can't be any different  lol20:05
lucahi everyone20:05
dvayanudr_willis: ok, now i have gnome style in my kde20:05
lrwnobody has an answer to my question?20:05
[ka]killerwhy would xine be screwed up?20:06
redshadowherothe person who owns this computer has trouble seeing the icons/text on the taskbar-thingee at the bottom of the screen. Any reccommendations on how to help him see them better?20:06
lucaI succeeded in connecting a motorola razr v3 to ubuntu using moto4lin, but I want to download the short messages, and kmobiletools I can't successfully connect to it...suggestions?20:06
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Dr_willisredshadowhero,  set all the fonts a lot larger?20:06
posingaspopular"service '/usr/share/applications/kde/kfmclient_dir.desktop' is malformatted" anyone see this before?20:06
stdinlrw: if it downloaded the packages, then it won't download them again20:06
Dr_willisredshadowhero,  theres also the high-contrast themes.20:06
livingdaylightWaltzingAlong, if they are the same ubuntu(g) and ubuntu(k) why would one choose one over the other? after all one can run either application (qt or gtk ones) in either environment.20:07
acee12345Somehow i uninstalled  knetwork manager in kubuntu 7.10 and the my ehternet is not recognised either thus i have to way to connect to the Internet with kubuntu. I do have the live cd and was wandering if there is a way to fix it from that cd?20:07
darkoxi have downloaded nvidia drivers (*.run file). how I can install it???20:07
redshadowheroWhere might I find some of these font controls?20:07
posingaspopularacee12345: connect via command line20:07
posingaspopularifconfig20:07
posingaspopulardhclient20:07
Dr_willisdarkox,  you ahve tried the nvidia drivers in the repos?  Thats the best way to enable them20:07
acee12345posingaspopular: how20:07
annmahi people20:08
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: exactly. so just which way to interface with the core elements. some prefer gnome some prefer kde (some prefer xfce some prefer fluxbox some prefer to switch)20:08
posingaspopularmy konsole isn't launching now, but you can connect to the internet via command line, it's mucho easy20:08
mayecohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/15503220:08
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: for file manager, web browser, audio player, video player, and so on20:08
mayecoreproduce that please20:08
surface2is there any libxine-extracodecs ?20:09
Flare183How do I fix this error: http://flare183.pastebin.ca/74375920:09
surface2can't find in my repo20:09
ruthhh20:09
SanityInAnarchyOk, question: Where is the script which is run after the new packages are installed (in the version upgrade)?20:09
tysonswDr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!20:09
stdinmayeco: it's not accessible , "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page."20:09
surface2,video codec20:09
stdinsurface2: it's libxine1-ffmpeg now20:09
sven_Hi there, Im still trying to download the restricted driver for my wireless network card but whenever I select "Enable firmware", I get a new window called "Specify firmware location" but this window is frozen, i cant click anything in it, I cant even close it.. Has anybody experienced the same problem? also, there is a file specified there, I have already downloaded it manually, is there a way to manually install this firmware file??20:09
mayecoplease login20:09
surface2stdin, oh thx20:09
SanityInAnarchyMy upgrade died, and I had to finish on my own (with apt-get dist-upgrade), the "version upgrade" button is still there in Adept, although all the packages are done.20:09
annmastdin: mayeco claims that kdesu <kdeapp> and changing a setting makes root owns the user config file20:09
annmastdin: for example kdesu kate and change a setting20:10
rutht20:10
mayecothe file should not exist20:10
annmathen .kde/share/config/katerc will be owned by root20:10
lrwstdin: Adept doesn't seem to realize that there is a pending version upgrade20:10
tysonswDr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!20:10
ruthjk20:10
mayecoclose the program, then delete the old file owned by your user20:11
stdinannma: checking20:11
mayecoexample /.kde/share/config/yakuakerc then kdesu yakuake20:11
mayecothat the file now is owned by root20:11
mayecoif you run yakuake as normal user you can't save configs20:11
livingdaylightWaltzingAlong, some say if you want kde environemtn dont' chose kubuntu, go with mepis or pclos... do you think that has changed and kubuntu have moved forward alot with this nrew release?20:11
dvayanuis there an easy way to downgrade back to feisty?20:12
WaltzingAlonglivingdaylight: well i think with each release kde becomes a bigger part of the ubuntu family (of course 'kubuntu' is the release with kde as the frontend)20:12
acee12345 posingaspopular: what are the commands?20:12
WaltzingAlongdvayanu: install from cd/dvd20:12
sven_mayeco, one comment about yakuake, its a great program, but it can cause severe X crashes when used in combination with compiz and alike..20:13
dvayanuwaltzingalong: downgrade not reinstall20:13
stdinmayeco: I opened kate (kdesu kate) then changed a couple settings, the config file was still owned by my user20:13
stdinsven_: compiz is what causes the crash, not yakuake20:13
tysonswDr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!20:14
* BluesKaj wonders if there are any open source ati drivers that will work with google earth ...the proprietary and default gutsy driver sucks20:14
jpwhitinghi all, anyone here gotten gutsy nvidia drivers to load20:14
jpwhitingmine always says FATAL: Unable to load...20:14
dvayanujpwhiting: yes20:14
jpwhitingdvayanu: any tips?20:14
dvayanujpwhiting: no probs at all20:14
jpwhitingI think I hit this last time I tried a gutsy beta also20:15
dvayanujpwhiting: dont know, i just installed and it worked :-)20:15
dvayanualready in feisty20:15
masternoobhello20:15
mayecostdin: why here in 3 Gusty pc they change the ownership20:15
jpwhitinghmm, mine worked fine in feisty, but no luck in gutsy so far20:15
mayecoare you in Gusty Gibbon?20:15
acee12345does anyone know the commands to connect to the internet with kubuntu 7.10 with the command line?20:15
jpwhitingmayeco: ?? change the ownership of what?20:15
mayecojpwhiting: the config file20:16
jpwhitingacee12345: ethernet, wireless? which?20:16
mayeco~/.kde/share/config/_app_20:16
stdinmayeco: not sure, what exactly do you do to reproduce the bug? just open an app with kdesu and change a setting, or remove the config file then open the app?20:16
acee12345jpwhiting: wireless died after knetwork manager died so i guess ethernet20:16
jpwhitingacee12345: sudo ifup eth020:16
annmastdin: remove the config file, kdesu the app20:16
sven_stdin, actually, I talked about this with the guys from yakuake, they told me that yakuake does some weird things too.. in either case, its the combination that does the trick, and whoever causes these crashes, it crashes, thats what counts :)20:16
mayecoin Gusty20:17
annmathis is not about yakuake20:17
jpwhitingannma: :) what are you doing here?20:17
annmaany kde app will do20:17
mayecoyes is about kdesu20:17
annmajpwhiting: checking a claim20:17
jpwhitingthought you were a mandriva fan20:17
jpwhitingah20:17
annmatssss20:17
acee12345jpwhiting: alright letme hibernate windows and ill try that thank you20:17
jpwhitingacee12345: no problem20:17
annmaknown gutsy bug mayeco20:18
stdinannma, mayeco: if I remove the config file then kdesu app, then I do see that happening20:18
thornsDoes anyone know how to change the system wide Qt4 style?20:18
annmafuck!!!20:18
stdin!language20:19
LjL!language20:19
annmaI'll never use KUbuntu20:19
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.20:19
mayecowhat annma20:19
annmaweeew20:19
stdinannma: no need for that language in here20:19
annmathis is so big20:19
mayecoYES!20:19
annmaI cannot believe it20:19
mayecois HUGE!20:19
WaltzingAlonggoogle earth sucks? BluesKaj how about the solarwind or whatever it is called from nasa?20:19
* mayeco i'm not an idiot!20:19
annmamayeco: SORRY20:19
annmaI apologize20:19
Saiedthorns: qt4 has a config tool but i dont know affects KDE theme style20:19
mayecoxD!!! np20:19
annmaI cannot believe it20:19
mayecomee to20:20
[ka]killerbah20:20
[ka]killerwhy is xine still not working right20:20
LjLare you sure you've used kdesudo and not sudo?20:20
annmait's a showstoppper20:20
mayecoLjL sudo or kdesu20:20
mayecohapped20:20
mayecohappend20:20
annmaLjL: I asked in #kubuntu-devel20:20
annmathey confirmed!20:20
mayecoAHHHHHHHHHH!20:21
stdinit's not a showstopper, it'd only happen when you run the app as root first20:21
[ka]killeri just want xine to work T_T20:21
annmastdin: !!!20:21
annmacome on20:21
annmaso many first comers are root20:22
thornsSaied: I'm just looking for a config tool, cli or gui, so I can easily set my user wide and/or system wide qt4 style20:22
[ka]killeranyone besides me having video playback problems with xine & kaffeine?20:22
thornsSaied: Do you know which tool that is?20:22
jpwhitingthorns: kcmshell colors, then check the apply kde colors to non kde apps20:22
jpwhitingthat should set the gtk and qt styles to the same color scheme20:23
jpwhitingI think20:23
Saiedthorns: qtconfig-qt420:23
stdinannma: it's not as huge as you think, unless the very first time then run the app it's run with kdesu then it won't happen20:23
stdinannma: and most new comers don't even know about kdesu20:23
annmaanyway I'll be in Boston next week, I'll talk about it stdin20:24
stdinit's an important bug, but not as big as you're making ti20:24
stdin*it20:24
annmait makes KDE bad20:24
Saiedthorns: i think it needs a new theme style for current KDE and KDE4 even Gnome and other DEs.20:24
annmait's quite important to discuss20:24
Saiedthorns: my current qt4 apps are a few ugly20:25
dvayanuare you talking about kdesu?20:25
dvayanuthat renaming sucks :-)20:25
darkoxHow to save text file edited in Kate using terminal?20:25
jpwhitingstdin: most apps are run with kdesu actualy20:26
jpwhitingmost admin apps anyway20:26
dvayanukdesu isnt there anymore20:26
NightBirddarkox: what?20:26
dvayanuat least it keeps telling me that20:26
stdinjpwhiting: the admin apps aren't going to be ran as the normal user, so the ownership of the files doesn't matter20:26
jpwhitingstdin: if you run adept_manager from the k-menu it runs it with kdesu20:27
stdinjpwhiting: yes, so the ownership doesn't matter, as it's always run with kdesu20:27
annmajpwhiting: avoid kdesu20:27
darkoxI edited text, but don't have access to save it. I want to try save it as root... But i don't know cammand20:27
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jpwhitinghmm, ok20:27
BluesKajWaltzingAlong, I wasn't being critcal of Google Earth , i acyaully like it ...it's the lack of support for linux from both google and ati that sucks :P20:28
dvayanuannma: and use what instead? login as root?20:28
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dvayanusudo20:28
jpwhitingdvayanu: ever heard of su?20:28
dvayanuthat would be running as root20:28
jpwhiting;-)20:28
[ka]killerbah20:28
jpwhitingonly for the shell you run it in20:29
[ka]killeri guess i'll just use mplayer till xine gets fixed up20:29
dvayanuthat would mean you have a root password20:29
jpwhitingdvayanu: of course20:29
dvayanujpwhiting: my boxes doesnt20:29
jpwhitingfirst thing I do after any kubuntu install is sudo passwd ;-)20:29
gameforgeIs there a way I can watch the console output of the Kubuntu setup (setting up from CD)?20:29
_michaelHello I was wondering if I could allow my kpf applet to be accessed via the internet and not just LAN Any ideas?20:30
dvayanujpwhiting: first thing i do is go to google to search and here to complain that my fonts are all broken20:30
Judgenhowdy, Is there an hfs+ filesystem driver with +rwx support for linux?20:30
dvayanucrppling my eyes, they start to bleed actually20:30
jpwhiting:)20:30
cristianHola??20:31
stdin!es20:32
MLG_GooseMannIs anybody using the KDE 4 Beta 3?20:32
cristianAlguien me podria ayudar???20:32
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.20:32
MLG_GooseMannIs anybody using KDE 4 Beta 3?20:33
the-erm[ka]killer: I'm having problems with video playback as well :)20:33
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dvayanuhttp://www.anotheria.net/broken-fonts.png20:33
dvayanucan someone point me into right direction? how to fix it?20:33
[ka]killerim just avoindign xine til its fixed20:33
the-erm[ka]killer: it's not just xine, it's kaffine, as well as mplayer, and totem craps out as well.  the ONLY way I can play video is to convert it to .flv and then watch it in the browser and that ain't fun.20:34
MLG_GooseMannTry VLC Media Player?20:35
paolopoz12I have problems with dist-upgrade. Can please someone help me?20:35
the-ermMLG_GooseMann: ok I'll try that.20:35
[ka]killermplayer is working for me20:35
[ka]killeras does VLC20:35
[ka]killerbut vlc and mplayer render subtitles really poorly20:35
fusspawnseeing as this channel isnt flying past at an amazing rate of nots and i can keep up with it, Is there a Wine help channel or some one with Wine/Ubuntu experience availiable for a quick chat ?20:36
the-ermpaolopoz12: it froze on me as well, I had to start with a fresh install.20:36
[ka]killerwhats your problem wwiht wine?20:36
paolopoz12arhhg!20:37
Kr4t05fusspawn: #winehq20:37
MLG_GooseMannpaolopoz12: What's wrong with it?20:37
fusspawn[ka]Killer , Wines folder refuses to let me have more than 1.1 gig free space even tho the partition has the space that folder seems perma stuck at 1.1 gig20:37
paolopoz12MLG: it's just a looong work. that's all20:37
fusspawnThanks Kr4t0520:37
MLG_GooseMannYeah, I started mine two hours ago.20:38
MLG_GooseMann54% right now.20:38
sven_Could anybody help me with installing a restricted driver?20:38
MLG_GooseMannLast night it froze up.20:38
paolopoz12Do I lose data with this process?20:38
MLG_GooseMannI'm not too sure, but I don't think so.20:38
MLG_GooseMannLike, files saved to your hard drive?20:38
gameforgehelp - trying to install kubuntu gutsy on my thinkpad/t42, copying files makes it to 60% and computer shuts down (no error, just a beep and "Going down now" message on console) - any ideas?  already asked in #kubuntu20:38
paolopoz12yes.20:39
gameforgeerr, #ubuntu rather20:39
paolopoz12mails, files...20:39
gameforgeis there a way to watch the console output of the install?20:39
MLG_GooseManngameforge: Are you installing from CD?20:39
gameforgeyes20:39
gameforgeinstalling from the desktop ISO20:40
the-erm[ka]killer: nope vlc does the same thing as mplayer vertical lines.20:40
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Eyal_DHi all .. I'm new and I need a bit help20:40
Eyal_Dhow can I use the 3d Desktop? I enabled visual effects afocurse ..20:40
nosrednaekimgameforge: overheating?20:40
Eyal_Dbut I don't know how to use this damn 3d ball =\20:41
nosrednaekimEyal_D: GNOME?20:41
MLG_GooseManngameforge: do you have a previous version of kubuntu installed?20:41
BluesKajnosrednaekim, got GE installed and running ?20:41
Eyal_Dwhat is ge?20:41
gameforgenosrednaekim: that's what I thought, but it doesn't get any hotter than usual20:41
Eyal_DThis is the new version .. 7. .. ?20:41
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: I don't have the bandwidth for that!20:41
BluesKajgoogle earth20:41
gameforgeMLG_GooseMann: I had feisty, but I wiped it, installing fresh20:41
Eyal_DGNOME sorry ?20:41
MLG_GooseMannHm.20:41
Eyal_Dwhat is GNOME my friend?20:41
nosrednaekimEyal_D: are you on Ubuntu or kubuntu?20:41
MLG_GooseMannPerhaps upgrading from feisty would work?20:42
Eyal_DUbnutu ^^20:42
Eyal_DUbnutu20:42
MLG_GooseMannI would either say that or try redownloading the iso.20:42
nosrednaekimEyal_D: channel for that is over at #ubuntu20:42
Eyal_DTy20:42
Eyal_DSorry for bothering ..20:42
nosrednaekimEyal_D: but trl ctrl+alt+arrow keys20:42
* BluesKaj wonders about installing gnome 20:42
Eyal_DI tried .. no 3d .. normal movment ..20:42
* nosrednaekim kickes BluesKaj for even thinking about it20:43
Eyal_DAnyhow I will try the other channel .. thanks20:43
nosrednaekimk20:43
gameforgeMLG_GooseMann: I already wiped it...20:43
BluesKaj:)20:43
MLG_GooseMannWell, I'd try redownloading the iso.20:43
MLG_GooseMannThat might be the problem.20:43
dvayanuok, i probably found it20:44
gameforgeMLG_GooseMann: Yeah I came across that problems on the forums and I checked it, it should be OK.  Do you think trying the alternate ISO is worth a shot?20:44
dvayanusolution for gnome: Go to System->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts and change the rendering method to "Best contrast".20:44
gameforgeMLG_GooseMann: Also, is there a way to watch the installer's console output?20:44
dvayanuhas kde the same option hiding somewhere?20:45
pikachuumx_how can i know if my sistem has the driver of my wifi card?20:45
MLG_GooseMannI don't know about the console input, but it might've been a problem just downloading it.20:45
=== Mez|Away is now known as Mez
MLG_GooseMannI myself haven't tried the alternate iso thus far, so I'm not sure how that'll pan out.20:45
WaltzingAlongdvayanu: kmenu/system settings/appearance/fonts/use anti aliasing20:46
rand_acspikachuumx_: dmesg20:46
vltHello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?20:46
sven_Could anybody help me with installing a restricted driver?20:46
rand_acspikachuumx_: in a terminal, then you can also do something like dmesg | grep card_make20:46
WaltzingAlongdvayanu: otherwise turn on 'auto hinting' in ~/.fonts.conf20:46
dvayanuah20:47
nosrednaekimsven_: which one?20:47
rand_acspikachuumx_: card_make being the actually card, like intel or whatever20:47
gameforgeMLG_GooseMann: right, well I'll try redownloading the desktop one first - thanks for your advice :)20:47
MLG_GooseMannNo problem.20:47
MLG_GooseMannHope it helps.20:47
gameforgeMe too...20:47
sven_nosrednaekim, wireless network card driver 43xx.. when I select "enable firmware" a new window pops up, and it hangs.. for hours.. Ive tried it like a 100 times already because supposedly the kubuntu site was busy these days but.. no result.. the window hangs immediately20:48
Xerahttp://pastebin.com/m46174c7920:48
dvayanumatch target font : edit mode="assign or what?20:48
XeraWhy do I need so much crap to install Firefox?20:48
MLG_GooseMannWhat crap Xera?20:48
Xerain 7.04 I didn't, in 7.10 I appear to need a load of other stuff20:48
WaltzingAlongXera: if you do not want gtk you can just grab the static one from getfirefox.com/20:48
nosrednaekimsven_: hmmm I think that is to select a firmware file20:48
sven_nosrednaekim, In the window that shows up (and that looks frozen) I can select a location for the driver.. local or on the internet.. but I cant type anything, I cant press buttons, I cant even close that window, its completely frozen20:48
sven_nosrednaekim, it is20:48
nosrednaekimsven_: i'm not sure if it goes out to the internet20:49
XeraWaltzingAlong: getfirefox.com gives me an archive20:49
nosrednaekimsven_: ah.. ok20:49
WaltzingAlongXera: yes, which you extract with tar xvfz firefox.tar.fz20:49
pikachuumx_I ha ve a list of pc informatio and my wifi appeear in here but I  don't know how to connect with it I connected with my wired card20:49
WaltzingAlonggz20:49
sven_nosrednaekim, I was told that it did but.. even so, I would have to press OK or something first? in anycase, the window is dead..20:49
XeraWaltzingAlong: I'd rather have it installed properly like it used to20:49
nosrednaekimhmm yeah... is there an OK button?20:49
wesleycan someone help me i am trying to get kde4 working20:50
sven_nosrednaekim, any idea on how I can bypass this? I already downloaded the file that appeared in that window, can I install this file manually maybe?20:50
* AmyRose wonders why strangers from this channel keep /msging her...20:50
WaltzingAlongXera: something called ubuntuzilla or something like that?20:50
nosrednaekimsven_: I'm sure you can. there is probably a tutorial for it on the ubuntu forums20:50
BluesKajwesley, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php20:51
wesleyyes i did all of it and theres no session20:51
h3sp4wnAmyRose: You are surprised ? That is why most females use names that could be attributed to either20:51
AmyRoseBluesKaj: But I tried that too and it crashes on me20:51
StarSysHello. I have a problem with installing kubuntu... When the live cd starts, i only get a blank screen (When changing from textmode to graphical).. When I try the alternate cd, i can install, but when I reboot, I get the same blank screen again... Can't change to another console eigher.. Can anyone help? :)20:51
XeraWaltzingAlong: huh? in 7.04 I just did sudo aptitude install firefox and it installed, didn't need anything else20:51
nosrednaekimAmyRose: when..20:51
acee12345jpwhiting: my ethernet apears to be dead in both windows and linux20:51
acee12345jpwhiting: so that command didnt do anything20:52
nosrednaekimStarSys: can you boot recovery mode?20:52
nosrednaekimAmyRose: when/where/how does it fail?20:52
BluesKajwesley, are you running kde4 now ?20:52
cristianHello, I need help, I from Chile. Anybody speak Spanish?20:52
BluesKaj!es20:52
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.20:52
AmyRosenosrednaekim: It gets through the splash screen and then X dies20:52
jpwhitingacee12345: oh :(20:53
WaltzingAlongXera: you can do that again with kubuntu 7.1020:53
wesleyno i did install that what you needed and copy  kde4.desktop 2 xsessions ans put export lines at startkde at kde4/bin20:53
acee12345jpwhiting: is there a way to restore the program from the cd?20:53
jpwhitingacee12345: restore what program?20:54
acee12345jpwhiting: knetwork manager20:54
XeraWaltzingAlong: how then? if I try and install just firefox it wants to download a load of other stuff that it didn't in 7.0420:54
acee12345so that i can use my proset wirless20:54
jpwhitingacee12345: you deleted it?20:54
acee12345jpwhiting: somehow20:55
surface2for gnome, they have gnome-open to open app with default app, what kde have?20:55
jpwhitingacee12345: do you have knetworkmanager in /usr/bin anymore?20:56
StarSysnosrednaekim: Hehe, I didn't of that :) I got it working now :) Thanks!20:56
acee12345jpwhiting:ii dont know let me bring up irc on an alternate comp and ill hibernate again20:56
nosrednaekimStarSys: thats what its there for ;)20:57
StarSys:)20:57
XeraHeh nevermind, it seems I was trying to install a "joke" package from the universe repo20:59
Carnagei'm having trouble with my wireless card, it was working and now... its not.21:01
WaltzingAlongXera: same way as before. what it needs it grabs. may be because packages changed. split bigger ones. maybe you had already installed gtk stuff last time?21:01
sven_nosrednaekim, I looked on the ubuntu forums, but I can only find tuturials for installing wireless with ndiswrappers... this restricted driver that kubuntu wants to install on my laptop (but fails to do so) is also with ndis? because if its not, I prefer to use the no-ndiswrapper21:01
nosrednaekimsven_: hmmm I don't know..21:02
nosrednaekimit may be21:02
nosrednaekimsven_: just a sec.. let me take a look21:02
nosrednaekimsven_: nope... its using a native driver21:02
=== oslo is now known as oslo_pasl
Carnagenot really sure what info you need to diagnose the prob21:04
sven_nosrednaekim, mmm, so it would be better to install that one instead of the ndiswrapper one, correct?...21:04
nosrednaekimsven_: I don't know...if you can get it working ;)21:04
kmartGood afternoon, folks.  Hope all is well21:04
sven_nosrednaekim, any reason why the restricted driver program may hang?21:05
kmartQUestion for the experts - can Adept be told to download and install in parallel21:05
kmartrather than doing it serially?21:05
nosrednaekimsven_: no...21:06
kmartI'm updating the systems and it seems to be odd that updates can;t be installing while others download21:06
nosrednaekimkmart: here? haha this is the SUPPORT channel my friend ;)21:06
nosrednaekimkmart: that probably wouldn't be good.21:06
nosrednaekimbecause of dependencies21:06
nosrednaekimand you'd install them far faster than you could DL21:06
Carnageno, it could totally trash your system21:07
roadfishand I have the opposite question. can I do the download (over dial up) and keep running my other apps _until_ the package installation takes place?21:07
kmartnosredmaekim - understood, but it does seem it should know wheter a dependency is need and wait for it21:07
frank_roadfish: you can keep running applications even when packagaes are being installed21:07
kmartmaybe I dislike waiting too much21:07
AzzcoI really need some help finding out something on my system. I can't boot from LiveCDs and I'm starting to become desperate21:07
kmartfrank_  understood21:08
nosrednaekimkmart: there probably wouldn't bevery much of a speed increase, but simpler and reliable to DL them all first21:08
roadfishfrank_: ok thanks. but I thought I saw a message that said I should shut down my apps?21:08
nosrednaekimkmart: that way you aren't left with half-finished installs/upgrades and other such things21:08
frank_roadfish: are you upgrading to gutsy?21:09
vbgunzkubuntu doesn't have an official forum does it?21:09
kmartTrue21:09
roadfishright, on this page it said to close my apps ... http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/snapshot10.png21:09
=== _roconnor is now known as roconnor
roadfishfrank_: yes. feisty to gutsy21:09
kmartjust a thought while I was watching grass grow :-)21:09
Carnageok; so can someone tell me what information i need to give them to get some help fixing my previously working wireless?21:09
nosrednaekimvbgunz: yes it does21:09
acee12346jpwhiting: what file was that again?21:10
frank_roadfish: ah. well you can do what it says. but using apps is fine when downloading21:10
vbgunznosrednaekim: I am looking, one moment21:10
tharunHi,21:10
tharunI am getting this error after launching the version upgrade tool(from gutsy beta) though Adept. It downloads a bunch of files, and then shows the error:21:10
tharunFailed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)21:10
=== andrea is now known as ndrea
tharunWhat do I do?21:10
vbgunznosrednaekim: got it21:10
nosrednaekimkmart: heh :)21:10
roadfishfrank_: ok, thanks. so isn't a huge problem ... besides, the only app that I use is emacs.21:10
Carnagethe card did appear in knetworkmanager as eth1, its no longer there however the ethernet card is still in there21:10
frank_roadfish: frankly though the kubuntu upgrader crashed on me while installing. It's not very stable21:11
roadfish:-(21:11
stiananny 1 know a good place 2 download songs??21:11
nosrednaekimsven_: I mean... of course there is a reason... but IDK what is it ;)21:11
roadfishfrank_: so are you suggesting a fresh install?21:11
roadfishstian: Apple iTunes?21:12
jpwhitingacee12346: /usr/bin/knetworkmanager21:12
nosrednaekimstian: amazon21:12
darkoxhow to install nvidia drivers? (kubuntu)21:12
frank_roadfish: well if you know how to resume the upgrade in the event that the upgrader crashes you can try it but you're probably safer with a fresh install21:12
* NDP-Kubuntu finally sees the "Version Upgrade" in his Adept manager and decides to update to Kubuntu 7.1021:13
tharunAnyone know how to fix this error?: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)21:13
roadfishfrank_: ok, thanks for the warning.21:13
acee12346jpwhiting: odd ethernet works on non-ddwrt router21:14
combiniowhy libxine-main1 AND libxine-extracodecs can't be installed under Gutsy ??21:14
jpwhitingI don't know what non-ddwrt means...21:14
tharunThis error comes up when I hit Version Upgrade... gutsy beta to  file21:14
acee12346jpwhiting: dd-wrt is a firmware replacement that expands options on some routers21:15
nosrednaekimcombinio: "kubuntu-restricted-extras"21:15
combinionosrednaekim: thanks a lot :))21:16
acee12346jpwhiting: i did apt-get and it installed21:16
acee12346jpwhiting: now how do i get ittoshow the wirelexx networks again?21:17
acee12346jpwhiting: sorry about spacing the space bar is broken on the comp21:18
vbgunzkopete crashes on every sign in, isn't there a fix for this somewhere?21:19
nosrednaekimvbgunz: MSN?21:19
vbgunznot sure21:19
nosrednaekimdo you use MSN with it?21:19
vbgunzI am trying to sign in and it just segfaults21:19
jpwhitingacee12346: dunno, does it put a systray icon on the systray when you run it?21:19
vbgunznosrednaekim: yes21:19
nosrednaekim!bug 15350021:20
acee12346jpwhiting: yes21:20
acee12346do i needto reinstall restiricted drivers for the proset?if sohow?21:20
nosrednaekimvbgunz: its a known issue, and yes there is a fix21:20
jpwhitingacee12346: adept?21:21
jpwhitingor aptitude21:21
gambixhi to all21:21
jpwhitingor apt-get something21:21
* dithi_ looks for the fix21:21
dithi_here it is! http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb21:21
gambixis the kde4 beta3 is usable ?21:21
vbgunzI know, I read about it but didn't use kopete. then I had to install fresh and figured I'll try kopete again... now I need that fix21:21
acee12346jpwhiting: doenst show anything butiremember it using them before21:22
gambixi can't find the startkde file ?21:22
ardchoilleAfter using the Restricted Manager to successfully install nvidia drivers, I now have no tty1-6 (ctrl+alt+f(1-6)). How do I get my tty's back?21:22
=== Red_Tear is now known as Red_Tear^halb^da
vbgunznosrednaekim: got it21:23
clyrradIs there a way to load your kubuntu desktop session remotely over SSH?  IE: can you some how make KDE login remotely over SSH, I would like to have the sesson start so I can connect to it with X11VNC21:23
nosrednaekimthanks dithi_21:23
dithi_:D21:23
=== arni is now known as arnifa
dithi_I think it was a mistake to include kde 3.5.8 just before the release of 7.1021:24
dithi_that package algo fixes an error I had with konqueror 3.5.821:24
dithi_actually two errors21:24
acee1234im still here21:24
dithi_clyrrad: you can configure kde remote desktop to allow guest connections without confirmation, or you can use a xvnc server21:25
Kr4t05Hrm... Why doesn't Gutsy have emerald-themes?21:26
roadfishany opinion on using the "alternate CD/DVD" for upgrading instead of "Adept Manager"? likely to be more or less reliable ... or not really any difference?21:26
nosrednaekim!helpersnack | dithi_21:26
ubotudithi_: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!21:27
nosrednaekimKr4t05: liscencing issues21:27
vbgunznow basket needs a fix... it crashes on every startup21:27
dithi_vbgunz: it works for me21:27
vbgunzmaybe this patch for kopete fixes it, heh, could only hope21:27
Kr4t05Oh...21:27
dithi_what does it say in terminal?21:27
ardchoillevbgunz: Basket works for me, but I can't get it into kontact like I had it in Feisty21:27
=== arnifa is now known as arnif
dithi_vbgunz: I'm not sure i've tried without the patch... probably it works for you21:28
=== edulix_ is now known as edulix
=== edulix is now known as Edulix
clyrraddithi_: is xvnc server avail from apt-get?  I dont see it21:28
acee1234does anyone know why knetwork manager shows"no active device" and will not display available networks on kubuntu 7.10 prosetwireless21:28
vbgunzeverytime I launch basket, it closes and a kmail messages pops up to be sent21:28
vbgunzI'll try again after the patch but the patch is giving me problems too at the moment :/21:29
dithi_clyrrad: vncserver21:29
clyrraddithi_: I see vnc4server21:30
Kr4t05nosrednaekim: Thats strange, because it's still on the packages server.21:30
dithi_clyrrad: afaik, vncserver starts a new x11 session, while x11vnc uses an existing x server21:30
nosrednaekimKr4t05: hmm maybe I heard wrong...wouldn't be the first time ;)21:30
ardchoilleIs anyone else with nvidia drivers missing tty's 1-6? Or is this known?21:30
vbgunzbasket started up21:31
dithi_ardchoille: it works for me until I suspend21:31
vbgunzI'll try kopete21:31
dithi_clyrrad: I don't know what's the difference between vnc4server and vncserver21:31
dithi_I guess vnc4server is more up-to-date, or it may be a fork21:31
WaltzingAlongfreenx21:32
aspirin_on_kubunhi21:32
dithi_oh, yeah, I want to try freenx, I tried non-free nx a long time ago and I liked it so much21:33
aspirin_on_kubuni try nvidia-settings --load-only-config to load my nvidia settings, but nothing happens21:33
ardchoille!launchpad21:33
ubotuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/21:33
WaltzingAlongroadfish: not sure about reliability but having the packages downloaded can help a lot should there be any hiccups during upgrade; no need to redownload them21:33
vbgunzyeah, that patch removed over 43 packages. basket launches without a hiccup and kopete is signed in21:34
vbgunzlooks real good so far21:34
hargibihmm. i get a black screen on the boot up.. and ive tryed changeing to VGA mode and everything... Its on a thinkpad laptop21:34
ardchoillevbgunz: Can you get basket to appear in kontact?21:34
hargibidunno what to do21:34
vbgunzardchoille: I'll look21:34
vbgunzardchoille: no, it doesn't show up inside kontact21:35
ardchoillevbgunz: In feisty, basket was a module you could add, like the notes, journal, and others21:35
jim!dvd21:35
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs21:35
vbgunzardchoille: I know, I seen it but always had basket sitting in the tray21:35
aspirin_on_kubunhow can i load at startup nvidia-settings.rc?21:36
vbgunzI never really started to use any KDE apps until the end of feisty... I switched from firefox, thunderbird to konqueror and kmail... now, its gaim for kopete if those long standing bugs really got fixed21:36
hargibibtw.. is there any easy way to install kde4? i guess the guide on kubuntu homepage is easy but i sure as hell couldnt figure it out21:38
nosrednaekimhargibi: thats about as easy as it gets21:39
BluesKajhargibi, it' not as easy they say21:39
hargibihmmm21:40
x_linkHi everybody!21:40
hydrogenhargibi: its not worth installing it at this point.21:40
hargibiahh21:40
hargibiwell i figured that almost21:40
acee1234why does distribution upgrade freeze on "installing the upgrades" on kubuntu 7.10?21:40
hargibibeta sucks21:40
hargibi=)21:40
BluesKajit's very clunky and unstable21:40
hargibibut anyone know anything about my black boot loading screen?21:41
raidproblemThe kubuntu installer can't see my raid setup, it just wants to install to one of the disks in the raid set21:41
x_linkI need help with a small thing.21:41
x_linkFirst time I wanted to install Kubuntu 7.04 I had to run the Live CD first.21:41
nosrednaekimraidproblem: I think you need to use the alternate installer for RAID21:41
x_linkThen after that I could install it to my hdd.21:42
raidproblemah ok21:42
x_linkBut I don't want that.21:42
acee1234if no one knows who might i ask?21:42
x_linkThen somebody here gave me a link to a Kubuntu 7.04-version that I didn't need to run Live CD first then install it.21:42
WaltzingAlongx_link: with the 'desktop' or livecd that is how it works21:42
WaltzingAlongx_link: otherwise you need the dvd version or the alternate cd21:42
nosrednaekimacee1234: what error does it give you?21:42
acee1234nosrednaekim: nothing just sits on 0%21:43
x_linkBut with the Kubuntu 7.04-cd that I have now I don't need to run Live CD first, I just put in the CD and then I install Kubuntu. Really smooth.21:43
nosrednaekimacee1234: on the command line?21:43
x_linkWaltzingAlong: Alternate, does KDE get installed as well then?21:43
nosrednaekimx_link: yes21:43
acee1234i did it through adapt21:43
WaltzingAlongx_link: sure with the kubuntu alternate cd21:43
acee1234nosrednaekim: i did it through adapt command line shows nothing when i hit "show terminal"21:44
x_linkAhh okej.21:44
raidproblemwell, I guess I have to go and download another CD :)21:44
=== lido76-14 is now known as tedoyan
WaltzingAlongvbgunz: which bug(s) affected you with kopete?21:44
raidproblemand find another CD to burn to :)21:44
nosrednaekimacee1234: did it already DL the packages?21:44
x_linkSo Alternate = not Live CD, you just install Kubuntu right away?21:44
raidproblemthanks for help21:44
acee1234nosrednaekim: yes21:44
nosrednaekimWaltzingAlong: 15350021:44
=== Mez is now known as Mez|Away
x_linkAM I right?21:44
BluesKajgutsy is still a bit "Holey" if you get my drift , but it will be better in a month or 2 after the feedback and fixes are in place21:44
WaltzingAlongx_link: sure. desktop is run live, then the option to install (or not); alternate has no run live but is just install21:44
nosrednaekimacee1234: then,from the command line,run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"... close adept first21:45
vbgunzWaltzingAlong: the format toolbar and the little windows that popup when people sign on... I still don't think I know how to get rid of that popup message...21:45
x_linkWaltzingAlong: Nice!21:45
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: you mean we should bow down to it?21:45
vbgunzWaltzingAlong: there were others but I cannot remember them now21:45
nosrednaekimvbgunz: settings->configure notifications21:45
BluesKajno nosrednaekim , holey not holy :)21:45
x_linkWaltzingAlong: Cause I have another Kubuntu 7.04-version as well. When I install Kubuntu with that CD I don't get KDE, I need to do sudo aptitude install kde-core.21:46
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: oh.... ;-)21:46
BigDaddyhey all, is there an app that will go through a users /home and remove .folders for apps no longer installed?21:46
x_linkWaltzingAlong: So Kubuntu-7.10-alternate isn't like that?21:46
vbgunzok, am setting up window behaviour for kopete, will do that right after21:46
WaltzingAlongx_link: which is the other? xubuntu or ubuntu ?21:46
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: don't think so :)21:46
acee1234nosrednaekim: changed time zone and upgrades "tzdata" thats it21:46
BluesKajholey = come s with holes in it , like my socks21:46
BigDaddynosrednaekim: damn21:46
x_linkWaltzingAlong: Kubuntu.21:46
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: write one ;)21:46
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: send them back if the come with holes...21:46
BigDaddynosrednaekim: ha! that's rich. I am nerd, but not that good of one21:47
nosrednaekimdon't complain to me!21:47
=== Mez|Away is now known as Mez
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: =)21:47
WaltzingAlongx_link: that is strange that the kubuntu alternate cd would not install kde21:47
nosrednaekimacee1234: hmmm try a reboot then :)21:47
BigDaddylooks like I need to go through manually an get rid of them then.21:47
BluesKajBigDaddy, not sure which distro ?      lsb_release -a21:47
acee1234nosrednaekim: alright brb21:47
BigDaddyBluesKaj: kubuntu 7.0421:47
WaltzingAlongvbgunz: the notifications are in the kopete/settings/configure notifications21:48
vbgunzgot it, looking at it now, thanks a million fellas21:48
x_linkWaltzingAlong: I don't think it's Kubuntu Alternate..21:49
x_linkWaltzingAlong: Well, thanks alot!21:49
nosrednaekimbye all! have fun with gutsy!21:49
=== dithi_ is now known as DiThi
x_linkWaltzingAlong: Thanks alot for your help!21:49
BigDaddyBluesKaj: what is lsb_release21:49
WaltzingAlongvbgunz: when are you sending a message or chat, turn off the format toolbar with the chat/message window/settings/toolbars/format21:49
BigDaddy?21:49
WaltzingAlongx_link: even the live kubuntu cd should install (the pieces of kde for that kubuntu distribution) kde21:50
vbgunzWaltzingAlong: I seem to have gotten rid of that toolbar for good. am so glad it actually sticks now :)21:50
navetsHALP! where is the dualview program that comes with gutsy21:50
BluesKajBigDaddy, in the konsole the '  lsb_release -a ' command tells you which version21:50
WaltzingAlong:d21:51
BigDaddyBluesKaj: oh. I already knew the version but still cool to know that21:51
BluesKajwell, it's awy of checking once you've upgraded21:52
BluesKaja way21:52
Pete^_can't get multimedia buttons working on toshiba laptop.21:53
Pete^_any ideas?21:53
acee1234same result21:53
BigDaddyPete^_: when you say you can't get them to work, what have you done so far?21:53
Pete^_used xev21:54
acee1234anyone know why  have to use ifup eth0 every time i want to access the Internet. wireless doesnt seem to work either.21:54
BigDaddyhave you just tried using the keyboard shortcuts under the control center? Turns out that was all I needed to do for my multimedia keyboard21:55
Pete^_tried that...21:55
Super_Cat_Frog_hi - i've just installed gutsy and i'm having problems with my mouse in kde - the focus is not being updated to the active window - any ideas?21:55
Super_Cat_Frog_eg: now, its acting like im still clicked on the 'konsole' icon on my taskbar21:56
Super_Cat_Frog_is this a known problem?21:56
quwieroHi!21:58
vbgunzdoes kopete do logging?21:58
arashvbgunz21:58
arashyes21:58
WaltzingAlong!hi | quwiero21:58
ubotuquwiero: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:58
quwieroTanks!21:59
quwieroThanks!21:59
vbgunzarash: where does it send the logs and how do I read them?21:59
arashsettings -> plugins -> history, It definetly logs it, since it display when you opne chat window, but I never bothered looking file location22:00
alejandrohola22:00
alejandrohi22:00
alejandrohow to upgade to gutsy22:00
alejandro?22:00
acee1234if no one know how to fix the wireless does any one who who i might ask?22:00
WaltzingAlongalejandro: upgrade instructions are in the topic22:00
alejandroits stable now?22:00
aroalejandro, download iso, burn, install22:00
vbgunzarash: hmm. I have that plugin enabled... I hope when I want to go into the logs it doesn't sabotage me :)22:01
WaltzingAlong!wifi | acee123422:01
ubotuacee1234: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:01
aroalejandro, it's officially released22:01
tekteenanyone know how to modify the live cd installer?22:01
arashvbgunz: sabotage you? I assume its saved as a text file, not as a virus executable that the Kopete programmers put their to be evil :p22:02
arotekteen, modify in what way22:02
BluesKajerr modify ?22:02
tekteenautomatically install debs22:02
arotekteen, still don't know what you mean22:02
vbgunzarash: heh, I meant when I need to look into the logs, I hope it doesn't become impossible to find them or a nuisance22:02
tekteenadd extra debs autmatically22:02
tekteenchange what is installed22:03
foxhound31tried to install nvidia driver but the propretary driver was greyed out22:03
BluesKajtekteen, depends which cd you have , but if you want to use it as a source there's an option22:03
arashvbgunz: save it as favorites if you found em once, you don't think the normal 'show messages when open chat window' is enough?22:03
foxhound31why would this happen22:03
BrightEyes`hello.i installed windoze and the boot loader was gone.i somehow tried something on ubuntuforums.then i uninstalled grub and installed grub2.what can i do so it will be able to find my windoze as well?22:03
WaltzingAlongtekteen: so to build your own livecd?22:03
WaltzingAlong!grub | BrightEyes`22:03
ubotuBrightEyes`: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto22:03
arotekteen, why would you want to22:03
tekteenok22:03
arotekteen, just install stuff after22:03
foxhound31also I could not set my card from 256 to 2128 either22:03
foxhound31128*22:04
tekteenI am creating a cd anyone can use22:04
kaminixCan you not use vhosts on freenode?22:04
vbgunzarash: thats the thing, I went all up and down the chat window, I didn't see anything about logs or history22:04
vbgunzahh, in right click on a buddy, I see 'view history'22:05
vbgunzthats good enough :)22:05
tekteenwe referb computers and put on kubuntu22:05
arashvbgunz: Good enough for government work ;) , whoops, I mean Open source work!22:05
vbgunzheh22:05
vbgunzI hope Kopete turns out to be great :)22:05
tekteenI need to know how to have it auto install kubuntu then run a script automatically22:05
tekteenanyone know22:06
tekteenhow do i edit the kubuntu install program on the live cd?22:07
kukmanhi22:07
kukmanwhere is log file of dhcp3-server?22:07
foxhound31consumer linux still got a looooooooooooooooooong way to go22:07
tekteenyep22:07
Dr_willis_Hmm.. My Evil clone from the basement is on. :)22:08
jussi01where in xorg.conf do modelines go?22:08
WaltzingAlongfoxhound31: best define your consumer22:08
foxhound31well I do IT support for a living and I was hoping 7.1022:08
Dr_willis_jussi01,  might want to google for some xorg.conf examples  -  easier to explain that way.22:08
Dr_willis_jussi01,  i dont even think i have any modelines in my xorg.conf any more22:09
foxhound31would be as easy as they said butso far I cant get my graphics card working or mount the drives22:09
jussi01Dr_willis_: yeah. ok. just name a section if you can :)22:09
BluesKajIT  guys use consumer versions ?22:09
foxhound31so no change there then22:09
foxhound31just as difficult as ever so that why its not going to be consumer linux anytime soon22:09
BluesKajmost IT guys i know use enterprise linux servers22:09
Dr_willis_jussi01,  i cant. Just looked. No 'Modeline" lines at all. i THINK they go under the monitors sections22:09
jussi01damn. 19s lag22:10
Dr_willis_jussi01,  since the modeline is a feature/setting of the monitor.22:10
Dr_willis_foxhound31,  given some of the song and dancing ive had to do with windows in the last month or so.. I will stick with Linux. :)22:11
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: who are you?22:11
tekteendoes anyone here know how to modify the live cd to run a script after installing kubuntu? I need it so idiots (ok... computer illiterate people) install kubuntu the same way on many machines.22:11
kukmanI can't start dhcp3-server. What I can do?22:11
kukmanWhere I can see the errors?22:12
foxhound31looks like kubuntu got some bugs in 7.10 cos ubuntu can mount the drives but kubuntu cant22:12
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow come my computer is using 100% cpu and all i have on is amarok and konversation and superkaramba22:12
Dr_willis_tekteen,  there is a feature i think like that for the 'OEM' setup on the alternative install cd and some sort of 'kickstart' feature i read about22:12
billytwowillyAT0M1CB0MB3R: fire up top and find out what's using the cpu power.22:13
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arashfoxhound31, isn't the mounting part identical for those two? Im a noob in these thing though...22:13
Dr_willis_tekteen,  let me see if i can find it.22:13
tekteenwhere can I get more info22:13
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tekteenok22:13
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: whats top?22:13
foxhound31arash wait22:13
Dr_willis_I got a  Live bookmark on a site that has tips and info on that stuff :)22:13
arash!top22:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:13
foxhound31http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087495.022:13
WaltzingAlong!info top | arash22:13
rohanWTF is wrong .. everytime i cut-paste a file from anywhere, it just gets copy pasted ..22:13
rohani need to manually use the terminal to move a file22:14
foxhound31doesnt say if they if the guy got it to work tho.22:14
ubotuarash: Package top does not exist in gutsy22:14
arashWaltzingAlong: Say that to Atomicbomber -.-22:14
Dr_willis_tekteen,  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/14/automated-ubuntu-installation-preview/22:14
tekteenty22:14
rohanis this is known bug or something ?22:14
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: ?22:14
rohani'm moving file from desktop to ~/debs folder using dolhpin22:14
Dr_willis_tekteen,  ive never used that feature. :) i just rember the artical22:14
AT0M1CB0MB3Reverything on my screen is basically frozen besides my mouse and konersation i cant move any windows22:15
Dr_willis_rohan,  you are the 2nd person now thats mentioned this.. sounding like a bug.22:15
billytwowillyAT0M1CB0MB3R: you just run top in the command line and see what is using the processing power...22:15
rohanDr_willis_: wow, can you give me the logs of the first person ? then i'll file a bug22:15
vervehey.. um.. i had a couple errors during upgrade, and now it seems to have frozen22:15
vervei was gonna exit out of it, but it said it could render it unusable22:16
Dr_willis_rohan,  he basicially said what you did22:16
verveis it safe to close and re-open adept or what?22:16
rohanDr_willis_: did he say anyhting about filing a bug ?22:16
basculerohan: cut and paste? doesn't update the desktop; files/folders show greyed out?22:16
rohanbascule: yes, exactly22:16
basculeme too22:16
rohanbascule: damn, we're having hte same problems22:16
Dr_willis_not realy, I  learned how to change the Default filemanager back to Konqueror. :)22:16
basculewe share a lot of bugs :)22:16
rohanthe volume OSD too, bascule eh ? :)22:16
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: everything is frozen :[22:16
basculerohan: yes that too :)22:17
verveanyone?22:17
rohanbascule: so, you're filing this one, or i do ?22:17
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: besides this (konversation)22:17
Dr_willis_volume stuck at 11% ?22:17
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: i cant move any windows22:17
Dr_willis_just noticed that bug heh heh22:17
rohanDr_willis_: yeah22:17
basculewell I don't mind really22:17
billytwowillyAT0M1CB0MB3R: then  you're screwed.22:17
rohanbascule: ok, once you do, give me the link, i'll add my "me too"22:17
basculeDr_willis_: I submitted the volume bug22:17
irvkenhow can I find out what the wifi adpater is on my laptop?22:18
Dr_willis_looke like i can move 10% total from 100 to 90 :)22:18
rohanirvken: lspci22:18
rohanno that won't give the wifi adapter22:18
Dr_willis_it might :)22:18
rohanbascule: you're filing right now ?22:18
rohanDr_willis_: not here, atleas22:18
basculerohan: yeah22:19
Dr_willis_its not just saying some 'unknown device' ? :)22:19
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rohanbascule: cool :)22:19
carwash^anyone got bluetooth and a2dp working?22:19
Dr_willis_Ive given up on wireless. :(22:19
rohanDr_willis_: which card ?22:20
Dr_willis_rohan,  4 different ones.. :)22:20
basculerohan: already there https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/13669522:20
rohanDr_willis_: haha22:20
Dr_willis_rohan,  even under windows - i jsut dont get a good signal in my house.  so i ran wires22:20
tekteenDr_willis: the site is great for preseed but not for running a script at the end. thanks anyway though22:20
rohanintel ones work well i think, Dr_willis_22:20
rohanoh, Dr_willis_ , not a linux problem22:20
irvkenlspci doesn't seem to report anything that looks vaguely like the wifi22:20
hydrogenis there a way to determine what package a file belongs to?22:20
Dr_willis_tekteen,  check out that 'oem' feature of the alt-cd perhaps.22:20
tekteenok22:20
tekteenthanx22:21
Dr_willis_rohan,  wirless dont work too well going through the wall/floors here past all the pipes and wires and ductwork22:21
Dr_willis_Then again it Barely worked in the same room as the wireless router.22:21
Dr_willis_Perhaps when wireless N gets cheaper i may try that22:21
flaketrying to backup harddrive onto dvds, it's saying it can only burn 6 directories deep, using gnomebaker..   is that the limit with dvds?22:21
Dr_willis_flake,  may be an juilet filesystem limit.22:22
irvkenmy wireless is fine, just the laptop with a problem22:22
WaltzingAlongflake: with the filesystem i think22:22
Dr_willis_thers variations on that - i think that can go deeper.22:22
Dr_willis_try k3b. it has more features then gnomebaker. and i know you can set that with it.22:22
BrightEyes`anyone to help me configure grub2???22:22
rohanBrightEyes`: what is the problem ?22:23
basculehydrogen: dpkg -S some/file22:23
hydrogenbascule: yea.. found that righta fter I asked :)22:23
flakeok22:23
BrightEyes`rohan: i uninstalled grub and installed grub2 and i want to find my windows os so i ll be able to boot there too.how can i do that22:23
patxihi22:23
basculecool22:23
patxikubntu 7.10 is rc still22:24
patxino?22:24
hydrogenno22:24
xeviouspatxi: nope22:24
rohanBrightEyes`: sorry, no idea .. never used grub222:24
patxibut it is full of bugs22:24
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: now what do i fire up22:24
WaltzingAlongpatxi: 7.04 was 'full of bugs' even still last week!22:25
* rohan wishes he had not formatted his feisty install for gutsy22:25
patxiamarok re-install every time mp3 support22:25
irvkenlooks ok to me, although it's only been on 10 minutes22:25
patxiadept don't ask me root passwd22:25
hydrogensounds like your system is full of bugs22:25
cashHello I have issue with Knetwork - icon(connection established) is active all time (when I offline too) ,and Knetwork dont show me wireless networks and when I need to connect I need to set my cable to network card and in Knetwork in ,manua configuration swith off and switch on network interface =(((((( l22:25
hydrogenOo22:25
billytwowillyAT0M1CB0MB3R: top is the name of the program22:26
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irvkennew laptop, had debian on fro a week never got wireless working on that, thought I'd try the new kubuntu22:26
WaltzingAlongpatxi: adept should but if you typed it once there is a timeout before it needs it again22:26
flakewow, k3b looks nicer too22:26
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cashhelp me please (( I tired22:26
rohanirvken: and now wireless works in kubuntu ?22:26
rohanbascule: you still have that 0 to 11 % problem ?22:27
basculerohan: yeah22:27
rohanbascule: now i don't get any OSD while setting the volume !22:27
basculeoh, worse then ... :)22:27
rohani updated my intel-hda drivers to the latest ones from alsa-hg22:27
cashguys22:27
basculerohan: ah, I really thing it's a kmixer problem22:28
rohanbascule: or a kmilo problem (which i think is more likely)22:28
basculekmilo, not sure what that is22:28
rohanbecause now the volume keys work perfectly, just no OSD22:28
basculerohan: I get no volume chae either22:28
basculechange22:28
irvkenno rohan wireless doesn't work22:29
irvkenI'm in the early stages of tshooting it22:29
rohanirvken: ah ok22:29
rohanbascule: bad :(22:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: why is my cpu being used so much?22:30
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: what is using so much of my cup22:30
AT0M1CB0MB3Rcpu22:30
AT0M1CB0MB3Rsomebody help me22:30
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdoes amarok use that much cpu22:31
rohanbascule: check out - the drag and drop operation works22:31
rohanjust ctrl-x or right click cut doesn't work22:31
hydrogenAT0M1CB0MB3R: hit CTRL+alt+escape22:31
billytwowillyAT0M1CB0MB3R: jesus christ... read a damn man page or something. Do you know anything about the command line? If not, then wait for someone who knows how to figure this stuff out in agui to help you. I've already told you the name of the programt hat lets you look at cpu and memory usage.22:31
hydrogenand see whats using it22:31
AT0M1CB0MB3Ri think i should use the 64bit cause my computer is a 64bit should i?22:31
basculestrange ....22:31
WaltzingAlong!language22:32
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.22:32
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: you can, does not mean you have to22:32
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i would guess that somthing crashed and is sucking up cpu.  logout/back in22:32
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: i ran top shut up and chill out22:32
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbillytwowilly: it never came up22:32
billytwowillyAT0M1CB0MB3R: then reboot your system.22:32
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: can you install flash and stuff now with problems or anything like that?22:32
Dr_willis_If the system cant respond to a shell command. You got somthing very messed up.   You might be better off rebooting.22:33
BrightEyes`rohan: i uninstalled grub and installed grub2 and i want to find my windows os so i ll be able to boot there too.how can i do that22:33
hydrogenerr22:33
hydrogenoops22:33
hydrogenAT0M1CB0MB3R: thats CTRL+ESCAPE22:33
hydrogenctrl_alt_escape is another sequence22:33
hydrogenas I just demonstrated22:33
rohanBrightEyes`: 02:54 < rohan> BrightEyes`: sorry, no idea .. never used grub222:33
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: yes those things work still, perhaps a step or two (more or other) but sure22:33
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhydrogen: whats that do? ctrl alt escape do?22:33
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: when i had 64 bit hardware i preferred to have the 64bit os22:33
hydrogenctrl_alt_escape kills the next selected window22:33
hydrogenctrl_escape shows a process table22:33
ChrisMirHi, did alt-tab behaviour change with 7.10?22:34
Dr_willis_ChrisMir,  not that ive noticed.22:34
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: me too but i could never install flash or any of the stuff i needed22:34
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: in feisty22:34
irvkenoh cool, couldn't get my internal adapter working, but the moment I stuck an external usb wifi dapter in it auto configured22:34
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: i had it working in feisty.22:34
ChrisMirhmm, normally I get a popupwindow with apps in the middle of my screen, which now aint happening22:34
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: 64bit?22:34
hydrogenthere is very little reason for a 64bit os22:35
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: yes22:35
rohanChrisMir: you've compiz enabled ?22:35
ChrisMirnope22:35
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: was it hard22:35
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: no22:35
hydrogenwith the exception of a placebo22:35
rohanChrisMir: well it's working perfectly here ..22:35
Dr_willis_ChrisMir,  i get a list of apps. same as i al3ways did.22:35
hydrogen(64bit is obviously twice as fast as 32bit)22:35
rohanChrisMir: it lists the open windows22:35
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: hydrogen: yes 64bit desktop os is not the norm now, true22:35
Dr_willis_ChrisMir,  you using compiz?22:35
ChrisMirNo, I dont use compiz22:35
WaltzingAlonghydrogen: 64bit does not mean 2x as fast as 32bit22:35
ChrisMirI do have it installed, but kwin is active22:35
Dr_willis_2X As cool. :)22:35
hydrogenWaltzingAlong: I can see that sarcasm is not one of your stronger points22:36
hydrogennor is reading..22:36
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: does it go faster as 64bit or no?22:36
rohanhydrogen: haha22:36
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: i guess im stupid22:36
hydrogenAT0M1CB0MB3R: no, it doesn't22:36
WaltzingAlonghydrogen: yes all about user's impression22:36
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: so is it worth installing a 64bit os?22:36
hydrogenwith the exception of a few corner cases22:36
rohanwhy are some items disabled in firefox's "Help" menu ?22:37
Dr_willis_I dont see much need to use a 64bit os for most people.22:37
rohanreport web forgery and such ?22:37
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: you will likely not notice a difference in speed with desktop computing (64bit vs 32bit)22:37
prakdoes anyone know how to update kubuntu through the gutsy cd?22:37
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwell my computer is using 85 percent of cpu and i have 2 programs running22:37
WaltzingAlongas easily as one could argue that most of the people using desktop computers now are not using the 32bits worth22:37
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BrightEyes`whats "rootnoverify" and whats the last symbol in "(hd0,0)" ?22:37
WaltzingAlongprak: you need the dvd or the alternate-cd (not live/desktop)22:37
Dr_willis_Report Web Forgey works here.22:37
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  what last symbol?22:38
lido76-11hallloooo22:38
prakWaltzingAlong: i got the desktop CD22:38
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwell my computer is using 85 percent of cpu and i have 2 programs running WaltzingAlong22:38
rohanDr_willis_: yes, my mistake22:38
rohan"Check for updates" doesn't22:38
WaltzingAlongprak: then you cannot.22:38
Dr_willis_rootnoverify  tells it to set the partition as root. and just DO it.. :)22:38
binduwavellI installed a pre-release of gutsy, now that it's released I'm being told in adept that I'm supposed to version upgrade, but the version upgrade tool says I'm already upgraded... any suggestions?22:38
Dr_willis_rohan,  thats beause updates are handled with the package manager system. Not firefox itself.22:38
WaltzingAlong!final | binduwavell22:38
ubotubinduwavell: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.22:38
ChrisMirInstead of the list of apps, apps are just switched, when I use alt-tab. `kwin --replace` didn't solve it. :/22:38
Dr_willis_binduwavell,  you are upgraded then.22:39
rohanDr_willis_: i know that, yet i was just curious ;)22:39
WaltzingAlongbinduwavell: but yes that is a known issue (being asked to install gutsy on systems with gutsy)22:39
BrightEyes`Dr_willis: the hd0,0 the last 022:39
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  thats the partition #. grub basics here. :)22:39
rohanDr_willis_: btw, how did you change the default file manager to konqueror ? i don't think i like dolphin22:39
hydrogenAT0M1CB0MB3R: it may be the strigi indexer..22:39
hydrogenrohan: its in systemsettings/kcontrol22:39
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhydrogen: how do i disable that22:39
Dr_willis_rohan,  let me check. ya got to fire up konwueror. under  Settings/Configure Konwueror.22:39
hydrogenAT0M1CB0MB3R: uninstall it is the quick way..22:40
hydrogentheres a way to stop it form indexing22:40
hydrogenI think22:40
hangthedjhydrogen, thats what i did22:40
hydrogenI just uninstalled it22:40
rohanDr_willis_: and then ?22:40
hangthedjyou have to go to like strigi:/config in konq i think22:40
waterpiehi all22:40
rohanhydrogen: where ? i don't see it in "Default applications" atleast22:40
Dr_willis_rohan,  File Assouations ->  INODE. - select each item and look. Move 'konqueror' up the list   where its above  Dolphin22:40
waterpiehow do you set konqueror as default instead of dolphin?22:41
Dr_willis_rohan,  you are basicially setting the default file assicaton for 'direcroties' :)22:41
Dr_willis_ fire up konwueror  ->   Settings/Configure Konwueror.22:41
WaltzingAlongdirectories but also system:/ media:/22:41
rohanDr_willis_: i see .. thanks a lot22:41
Dr_willis_File Assouations ->  INODE. - select each item and look. Move 'konqueror' up the list   where its above  Dolphin22:41
irvkenI've installed compiz how do i get it work?22:41
Dr_willis_!compiz22:41
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion22:41
binduwavellubotu, Dr_willis & WaltzingAlong: thanks... but why do I keep getting notified I'm supposed to version upgrade? btw, i did apt-get update and dist-upgrade both indicate I'm up to date...22:42
rohanwow ubotu displays different factoids depending on the channel .. cool22:42
Dr_willis_Its a bugglet binduwavell22:42
Dr_willis_ if they say you are up to date.. then you are.22:42
WaltzingAlongbinduwavell: you are but it is a bug22:42
WaltzingAlongrohan: and depending on the query!22:42
binduwavellDr_willis_: OK, so I just ignore for now?22:42
binduwavellI just got kopete fixed... just trying to do cleanup :)22:42
Dr_willis_binduwavell,  got a better idea? :) yes..ignore it.22:42
binduwavellDr_willis: kk, thanks22:43
WaltzingAlongkopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)22:43
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ChrisMirHmm.. 'configure window behaviour' -> Focus -> enabling  'show window list while switching windows', gave me back the normal behaviour, although with the mentioned frames. weirdness22:44
waterpieDr_willis: Thanks22:44
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhydrogen: quick before my cpu is using 100 percent how do i uninstall strigi22:45
Dr_willis_here we go...22:45
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Dr_willis_To Make konqueror the default file manager intead of Dolphin do the following  Start Konqueror -> Settings->Configure Konqueror -> File Assoiations -> INODE,22:45
Dr_willis_Under "Directrory" and "System Directory"  Move Konqueror UP the list above dolphin.22:45
Dr_willis_Is that clear enough for a factoid? :)22:45
edenbeastanybody know where I can allow my windows to traverse multiple desktops when I drag them? I can't remember where that setting is :-)22:46
Kr4t05TBH, I prefer Dolphin to Konqueror.22:46
waterpiewhen i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same22:46
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhydrogen: you there man?22:47
GarnamHello everybody22:47
rohanWaltzingAlong: country ? can you give me an example ?22:47
Dr_willis_The More i use Dolphin the more i HATE it. :)22:47
Dr_willis_then again - i do use some of the more odd features of the Konqueror file manager22:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdoes anybody know how to uninstall strigi22:48
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Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  sudo apt-get remove strigi22:48
nicolai_Dr_willis_: thank you for the guide22:48
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Dr_willis_!info strigi22:48
ubotuPackage strigi does not exist in gutsy22:48
Dr_willis_if we can find the RIGHT package name. :)22:48
Dr_willis_!find strigi22:48
ubotuFound: libstrigihtmlgui-dev, libstrigihtmlgui0, libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev, libstrigiqtdbusclient0, strigi-applet (and 5 others)22:48
nicolai_Dr_willis_: Dolphin is one big bug on my gutsy install22:48
edenbeastI don't like that dolphin doesn't use tabs :-/22:48
ChrisMirKr4t05: I do like dolphin a lot and I really would love to use it, but I'm so used to used to just type ftp://, fish:// and always have a multitude of tabs open22:48
GarnamI updated my kubuntu to Gutsy yesterday, and it errored out at around 75% due to problems with installing nvivia-glx. Is there any way to check which packages got purged / not updated so taht I can be sure that my system is complete? I found no defects until now. Or should I do a clean install after something like this?22:49
John117Hey, i am running Gutsy and I just tried to install CompizFusion.  This is the error message I got: sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde22:49
oritemishi, I installed compiz fusion into kubuntu gutsy and a white border line appear in context menu, somone had the same problem?22:49
h3sp4wnGarnam: tried dpkg -C22:49
Garnamh3sp4wn: no, testimg now22:50
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Garnamh3sp4wn: gives no output whatsoever22:50
h3sp4wnGarnam: Interesting22:51
edenbeastI tried compiz-fusion as well and it just can't hold a candle to what beryl was :-/22:51
WaltzingAlongrohan: an  example of what?22:52
John117peopld told me compiz was better than beryl.22:52
basculeedenbeast: what was better in beryl?22:52
h3sp4wnThey were 99.5% identical anyway22:52
Garnamh3sp4wn: yea, but i have some packages taht are not qiuet three, nvidia-driver doesn't work, but there are no further defects and it tells me i have the latest version of all packages, despite erroring out at 75%22:52
aspirin_on_kubunhow can set brightness-contrast?22:52
John117Nobody can give me a straight answer that works.  Why is everyting so complicate?  Why can't you just INSTALL A PROGRAM? LOL How do i install Compiz on Kubuntu Gutsy22:52
basculeJohn117: use adept22:53
h3sp4wnJohn117: I can install a program22:53
Dr_willis_John117,  you havent followed that compiz url yet yave ya?22:53
snikkeri've got small fonts in all application afte update to gusty. how can i fix this?22:53
Dr_willis_it tells you what you need to install.22:53
John117what compiz url?22:53
Dr_willis_!compiz22:53
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion22:53
oritemishi, I installed compiz fusion into kubuntu gutsy and a white border line appear in context menu, somone had the same problem?22:53
Dr_willis_it gets pasted in ehre every 4 min22:53
Dr_willis_Theres a reason Compiz wasent included by default. :)22:53
AmyRoseOK, I got a log from my failure to get KDE 4 working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41435/22:53
Garnamh3sp4wn:  oh my god, so many typos, kill me now please22:54
John117Okay..  dr_willis, I read that.  And am getting an error message.  I posted the error message here when i entered.  did anybody see it?22:54
h3sp4wnGarnam: I read it as that are not quiet there22:54
edenbeastthe configuration manager you got with beryl was awesome22:54
John117Everybody says follow the link..  read the instructions.. but the instructions never work.22:54
bascule3 years ago, linux is free it's stable it is customizable it is flexible, now "OOOOHH, spinning cube .... gimme!!" ;)22:54
edenbeastccsm is a horror22:54
Dr_willis_John117,  i dident see an erorr message - i saw your 'apt-get install line'22:54
John117I just installed this version of kubuntu yesterday.  I've done nothing with it.22:54
AmyRosebascule: But me love spinning cube!22:55
Dr_willis_ sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde      --> is NOT an error message ;)22:55
John117ERROR MESSAGE > E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?22:55
WaltzingAlong!fixapt | John11722:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:55
WaltzingAlongJohn117: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:55
basculeAmyRose: me too, it's just the whole 'shiny thing' mentality that makes me laugh22:55
edenbeastI don't like the cube much but there are other features I find handy, the only sore thing is virtual desktop support :-/22:55
Dr_willis_I find the cube useless.. :) except to show off.22:55
AmyRosebascule: Yeah, I was on Linux before Compiz and Beryl were even invented... ;)22:56
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: i only use one desktop :]22:56
basculeAmyRose: and me, rpm hell and all22:56
ScorpKingi get "E: The package list or status file could not be parsed or opened." when running apt-get update to update apt on a local repo. why is it saying that?22:56
John117DR_WILLIS hey..  was my probblem that adept was open on the desktop while i was tyring to do it?22:56
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhey ScorpKing :]22:56
moofooif compiz would not make resizing of windows so uber-slow, i would might even use it :p22:56
ScorpKing:D hiya!22:56
Garnamh3sp4wn: oh, in xorg.con there is nvidia as driver, but glxgears gives me "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display", thes shouldn't be possible, or is nv taken as silent fallback now?22:56
Dr_willis_John117,  ONLY one 'installer' application can be running at a time.. so YES that was your pboelm22:56
moofoobug kde4 will make compiz obsolete hopefully..22:57
John117dr_wallis thank you, sir.22:57
Dr_willis_moofoo,  i Hope so. :)22:57
AmyRosemoofoo: Bug?22:57
h3sp4wnGarnam: I don't know how that bit works but I believe that bulletproof X spec was implimented22:57
h3sp4wnGarnam: is sources.list listing gutsy ?22:57
moofooAmyRose: s/bug/but/ :)22:58
h3sp4wnGarnam: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (see what aptitude says I don't trust any other program for major upgrades)22:58
wolfgerhey all. Launchpad is confusing as heck to me.... Where should I go to file a KDE4 packaging (I think) bug?22:58
John117dr_willis_ i'm getting more errors.22:58
h3sp4wnwolfger: It is to me also22:58
John117dr_willis_ talking about packages with unmet dependancies.22:58
h3sp4wnAnyone know whether the launchpad integration for reportbug or reportbug-ng was completed22:59
WaltzingAlongbut perhaps the new shiny thing can bring enough interest (users) to gnu/linux that more interest is placed there22:59
AmyRosewolfger: The easiest way to figure this out is to go to packages.ubuntu.com, find the package you want to report a bug on, go to its page, and go to the bug finding link at the bottom of the page22:59
basculesure22:59
h3sp4wnalso what about the /etc/event.d stuff that was supposed to replace init.d completely by edgy+222:59
wolfgerthanks, AmyRose22:59
AmyRosewolfger: Then if you need to report a new bug, just click Report a Bug or something like that22:59
John117What is going to bring more users to gnu/linux is making this stuff easier to install.22:59
Dr_willis_John117,  do an 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try installing the packages again.23:00
Garnamh3sp4wn: Adept says Gutsy all the way. I thaught bulletproof X spec is only in use for Gnome and gdm for now, nor kdm.23:00
edenbeastit doesn't come easier than this really :-)23:00
OakboxHi all, i just installed Gutsy (again) im newish to linux played to much and broke it :) oh well...  But now that i have reinstalled the update manager keeps telling me that i havent got the latest version :S any ideas???23:00
basculeWaltzingAlong: I totally accept that we needed some sort of killer app/feature to grab peoples attention, it's just that so many care of nothing else ...23:00
edenbeastbut compiz isn't really a trivial thing23:00
WaltzingAlongJohn117: i doubt so many were held back by how hard things were to install but certainly some were; having neat things to do with it would bring yet others23:00
h3sp4wnGarnam: I have no idea how it was implimented or not implimented23:00
AmyRoseOakbox: I think that's a known bug23:00
waterpiewhen i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same23:00
edenbeastit would be comparable to replacing gdi+ and gdi on a windows pc I guess23:00
WaltzingAlongbascule: so when we get them here to show them the rest of the show, that is the trick i suppose23:00
basculeyeah, I suppose :)23:01
OakboxAmyRose: ok as long as its not me doing something wrong :) ta muchly23:01
marcondeshi23:01
h3sp4wnbascule: amarok is good enough for that as the killer application23:01
edenbeastbut honestly it doesn't get better than apt-get install <big office suite> and after a while it's just there :-)23:01
marcondesalgum brasileiro?23:02
basculeh3sp4wn: yeah i converted 4 people prior to compiz with amarok, about 10 since ... :)23:02
WaltzingAlongi know of no one coming to gnu/linux based on the audio player23:02
AmyRose!br | marcondes23:02
ubotumarcondes: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.23:02
WaltzingAlongbut i have known several to enjoy it (amarok) once they used it23:02
mayecoubutu hey!23:02
edenbeastyes amarok is amazing23:02
mayecoubotu: hey!23:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hey! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:02
mayecohahaha23:02
CugelAmarok is big, but it does its job.23:02
edenbeastI switched to kde because of it :P23:02
marcondesperdao a muito tempo que nao uso irc. e to meio perdido23:02
waterpiewhen i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same23:02
mayecohola me llamo mario y vivo en panama y soy de colombia23:02
h3sp4wnbascule: I have got rid of linux on my mainpc - zfs is worth the extra hassle it causes for everything else for me23:03
edenbeastthat and kde printing23:03
marcondesnem lembro mais os comandos23:03
AmyRoseh3sp4wn: But it's getting ported to Windoze, huh?23:03
marcondesenfim23:03
John117dr_willis_ umet dependances..  broken packages.   I already installed the repositories.23:03
moofoois there actually a good english grammar checker for linux?23:03
WaltzingAlong!es23:03
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.23:03
h3sp4wnAmyRose: Good23:03
basculeh3sp4wn: solaris?23:03
AmyRoseh3sp4wn: GOOD?!23:03
mayecohahahahahah I dont know that ubotu do that!23:03
h3sp4wnbascule: solaris express23:03
AmyRose!bot | mayeco23:03
edenbeastjohn117 do you have the correct repositories in your sources.list file? (how did your atheros installation go?)23:03
ubotumayeco: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots23:03
basculecool, OSX is mentioning zfs soon23:03
mayecowhat is that AmyRose?23:04
h3sp4wnAmyRose: yep if they make the code more portable (so it works with windows) better chance it won't have linux isms in it that break it on Solaris23:04
edenbeastI wish we'd had native zfs, that would be sweet :-/23:04
WaltzingAlongmoofoo: aspell but for spelling; otherwise i am not sure. there exist, as far as i know, only two large electronic dictionaries (those needed for complete grammar checking)23:04
mayecoAmyRose: !bot | xxx?23:04
AmyRoseh3sp4wn: Oh, OK23:04
don_hey guys23:04
don_i installed compiz fusion23:04
John117edenbeast hey! atheros was already installed!  it was too damned cryptic to get to the hardware settings.  I had to right click on the desktop icon for network and it listed my home network there.  There should be a  seprate tray icon for wireless and wired network.23:04
AmyRosemayeco: You can get ubotu to tell someone about something by using a | followed by the target's nick23:04
basculeh3sp4wn: got a url that gives a brief outline of zfs features?23:04
don_and for some reason , i am missing the top of my widnows lol23:04
don_i cant move them around23:04
don_they get stuck to the top23:04
alucardhello community23:04
alucard;)23:04
AmyRose!hi | alucard23:05
ubotualucard: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:05
WaltzingAlongdon_: start kwin ? have you been running compiz-fusion23:05
John117edenbeast Dr_willis_ I have added the repositories that are on the instruction website that you sent me a link for.  then i updated the repositories.  All of it was successful.23:05
don_yes i am on compiz-fusion i think lol23:05
moofooWaltzingAlong: yes i'm aware of aspell/ispell but as you said.. they only check spelling :(23:05
Garnamh3sp4wn: ok, even sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade says I'm up to date, it just wants to delete 209 packets and update 1. Funny(-not-so) situation. Seems as if it succedet in installing all the packages and errored out before removing the old ones.23:05
alucardi need help... i have kubuntu installed on ibm t61, i've ran an update to 7.1023:05
AmyRosemoofoo: Just learn the rules of grammar! It's what I did. =P23:05
don_kwin: unable to claim manager selection, another wm running? (try using --replace)23:05
alucardsomewhere in the middle adept crashed and system is at the mmt... in a bad condition23:06
mayeco!tell mayeco about KDE23:06
Aranelhow can I colorize my console ?23:06
alucardcan sbdy plz help me?23:06
h3sp4wnGarnam: try - sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop23:06
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WaltzingAlongdon_: kwin --replace23:06
testel,sls,23:06
AmyRose!tell mayeco about hi23:06
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Aranel(green for directories, blue for files etc.)23:06
RichardBH!KDE | mayeco23:06
ubotumayeco: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.23:06
mayeconice!!!!!!!!!23:06
moofooAmyRose: yes, but even if you know the rules, it's nice to have an automated checked as a computer might spot something you did not notice (like the good old "count all f" test)23:06
edenbeastaranel you mean you ls output?23:06
don_hmm now beryl aint working :(23:06
h3sp4wnbascule: http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.html23:06
mayecothanks AmyRose!!23:07
Araneledenbeast: yes.23:07
h3sp4wnbascule: *grml*23:07
edenbeastaranel ls --color23:07
Phoenix_1hey men, i need help with partition23:07
John117Am i beyond help?  Nobody wants to help?23:07
edenbeastaranel easiest is to add an alias ls="ls --color"23:07
AmyRoseJohn117: Sorry, what's your problem?23:07
* Dr_willis_ is busy editing the compiz wiki page.23:07
Araneledenbeast: thanks a lot :)23:07
Oakbox!gcc23:07
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)23:07
moofooi know of whitesmoke enrichment for windows that actually performs quite well.. but as its more or less integrated into the system and so it does not run with wine.. :/23:08
waterpieWhen i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same23:08
John117amyrose I am trying to install compiz on gutsy.  I followed the link from ubotu.  I added the repositories..  updated.. tried to install.  I'm getting messages about "E: broken packages" and unmet dependancies23:08
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwhat docks can i install?23:08
WaltzingAlonggetting stuck making some thumbnails? waterpie23:08
RichardBHanybody know why my contacts cant see custom emoticons sent from kopete?23:09
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  fire up the package manager and search for 'dock'23:09
WaltzingAlongJohn117: you need to use gutsy in place of feisty if you are on gutsy23:09
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  none of them have impressed me much.23:09
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: i did that before you said it23:09
basculeh3sp4wn: thanks23:09
John117waltzingalong why does the tutorial not fricking say that?23:09
stdinRichardBH: because they don't have the same emoticons installed23:09
Garnamh3sp4wn: hm, ok, there are some packages missing, but he wants to uninstall too many packages. There is no way I'm going to let him unistall things like tetex-base, any way to exclude some packages?23:09
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  many of them are really really.. bad. :)23:09
waterpieWaltzingAlong: i rebooted with not one window open. I don't know how to make it stop23:09
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: whats the most stable23:09
RichardBHstdin: theyre on WLM; they were the ones who sent it to me - when i send it back, they just see the text string instead23:10
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i dident find any of them stable. dident find any of them useable..23:10
WaltzingAlongJohn117: the link from ubotu still refers to feisty (7.04)23:10
Dr_willis_!find dock23:10
ubotuFound: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)23:10
Dr_willis_!info kooldock23:10
ubotukooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB23:10
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: i have this one installed23:11
tysonswhow do I change ownership of a fil/arcive??23:11
alucardtysonsw: man chmod23:11
h3sp4wnGarnam: It should be removing tetex23:11
stdinRichardBH: I don't know how wlm does it, but it's usually the job of the client to turn the text code into the emoticon when it's received23:11
AmyRoseJohn117: OK, can you try a sudo apt-get -f install ?23:11
John117waltzingalong thank you.  I made that change and i'm updating again.  Well try again and i'm sure I"ll have MORE PROBLEMS.  LOL23:11
h3sp4wnGarnam: You can switch to texlive23:11
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  kooldock dosent seem to work for me at all23:11
h3sp4wnGarnam: tetex is unmaintained anyway23:11
WaltzingAlongJohn117: call them learning opportunities :D23:12
RichardBHstdin - intriguing23:12
Oakboxhow do i stop kubuntu installing packages from disc and get them from the internet instead?23:12
h3sp4wnGarnam: Let it do what it needs to to get kubuntu-desktop installed23:12
alucardcan somebody help me? i have a problem with 7.10 upgrade23:12
tysonswhow do I change ownership of a fil/arcive??23:12
moofoobascule: if you want to know about zfs here is the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8100808442979626078 :)23:12
Garnamh3sp4wn: is it 100% compatible? I have some older projects I'm not gonna touch23:12
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: command line? sudo chown user:grp file   like   sudo chown tyson:tyson myvideo.ogm23:12
Oakboxtysonsw: i think you would use chown23:13
OakboxWaltzingAlong: too quick for me :)23:13
WaltzingAlongOakbox: dvorak :D23:13
tysonswWaltzingAlong can you use that for a folder to??23:13
dergringoAnyone got the audio controls running on Thinkpad T61 ?23:13
Garnamh3sp4wn: useing some old packages like picins (lat updated 1992) I can't replace23:13
* ScorpKing 38s lag. :( useless dailup...23:13
tysonswlike ALL folders?23:13
John117amyroz I added the repositories.  I changed "fiesty" to "gutsy"  I ran "sudo get-apt" and it said that "23:13
John117Err http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main Packages23:13
John117  404 Not Found23:13
h3sp4wnGarnam: I don't know enough about latex to answer this question23:13
AT0M1CB0MB3RScorpKing: i have 72 ms lag23:14
snikkeri've got small fonts in all applications after update to gusty. how can i fix this?23:14
Dr_willis_http://ppa.launchpad.net - is some 3rd party  repo i belive23:14
h3sp4wnGarnam: You could run a chroot of feisty if you absolutely had to for those older projects though23:14
h3sp4wn(or dapper etc)23:14
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: from the gui? well a few more steps because you need first to be 'root' with the gui app, say dolphin or konqueror. so you would want to start either with kdesu konqueror      but generally this is not a good idea (not a 'best practice')  then just right mouse click the file, type the name of the user/group, and tada23:14
waterpiebye all23:15
moofooh3sp4wn: i suppose you already know the zfs video ... if not its funny ;)23:15
WaltzingAlong!fonts23:15
Garnamh3sp4wn: hm, ok they, let's find out. What good are system-backups if I'm not gonna use them ...23:15
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer23:15
Oakbox!reposotory23:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reposotory - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:15
ardchoille!repos23:15
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu23:15
Oakboxta if that was for me :)23:16
tysonswWaltzingAlong: gui app?23:16
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WaltzingAlongtysonsw: graphical user interface application; cli command line interface23:16
John117amyrose23:17
John117Err http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main Packages23:17
John117  404 Not Found23:17
stdinJohn117: if you read the instructions it tells you that you don't need to add the repositories for gutsy23:17
stdinI know it says that, I put it there23:17
John117stdin yes.. but uhm.. its ben WRONG in every other eay.23:17
John117stdin way.23:17
Dr_willis_John117,  thats just one repo thats not updated yet. I would say comment it out.. or just ignore the error.23:17
tysonswWaltzingAlong: how do I access that program?23:17
John117dr_willis I thought ubuntu "just works"23:18
stdinJohn117: wrong? what didn't work and what was the output?23:18
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: on which file do you wish to change ownership23:18
John117stdin i can't paste the out put here.. it would be flooding.23:18
stdin!paste23:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:18
tysonsw WaltzingAlong  source.list23:18
WaltzingAlong!pastebin | John11723:18
ubotuJohn117: please see above23:18
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: /etc/apt/sources.list ? should be root:root23:19
Oakboxhow do i get kubuntu to stop asking for the CD when i install new software?23:19
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vbgunzanyone know why none of the external devices, usb sticks, cards, drives show up on the desktop *until* one is unmounted, then remounted? unmoun one, and remount it, they all show up23:19
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: but you want to edit it? alt+f2 then type          kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list                you can also use adept_manager to edit the contents in a graphical way23:19
vbgunzany way to fix this?23:19
AT0M1CB0MB3Rif i make 2 panels how can i edit one and not the other23:19
GarnamOakbox: delete all references to the cd in /etc/apt/sources.list23:20
OakboxGarnam: ta :)23:20
WaltzingAlongvbgunz: no icon for unmounted removable devices? this means every device existing, ok well not quite but a lot :D23:20
ScorpKingi'm trying to use my local repo. E: Problem with MergeList /var/apt/lists/192.168.1.1_ubuntu_dists_feisty_main_binary-i386_Packages is the error i get.23:20
tysonswWaltzingAlong adept_manager doesn't work becurse of an error in that file.. witch I need to correct.. and if I type /etc/apt/source.list.. it sais that that file och catalog doesn't exist23:20
vbgunzWaltzingAlong: sorry, I have no idea what you said :(23:20
Dr_willis_!compiz23:21
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion23:21
Angeluswil lthere ever be http mirrors available for the kubuntu live-dvd ? cause their aint much seaders on torrent23:21
John117waltzingalong amyrose stdin this is my error ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41439/23:21
WaltzingAlongvbgunz: no icon for unmounted removable devices? what is removable media? something that can be inserted quickly/easily and removed quickly/easily; what is unmounted? not presently mounted; so an icon for all devices which are not mounted and removable would be an icon not just for your ipod but mine, and all others23:21
AmyRosebrb23:22
AmyRosegoing into KDE 423:22
stdinJohn117: yes, that's because you added those repositories, remove them23:22
WaltzingAlongvbgunz: but as for the issue with more icons showing up when one partition on a removable device is mounted, yeah that may be an existing bug or perhaps you could report it23:22
myhello all23:22
John117stdin okay.23:22
Kernel!sio23:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:22
Kernel!iso23:22
tysonswWaltzingAlong adept_manager doesn't work becurse of an error in that file.. witch I need to correct.. and if I type /etc/apt/source.list.. it sais that that file och catalog doesn't exist23:22
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.23:22
myneed some help, last problem to finish the system23:22
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: press alt and f2; this will bring up "run command"; here type   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list23:22
vbgunzWaltzingAlong: I think you misunderstood. I have several devices that are mounted *but* do not show up on the desktop... I have 3 of them mounted by default on startup. the only way to get them to all show up at once, is to unmount anyone of them and then remount it. doing this. they all show up23:23
John117stdin removed23:23
WaltzingAlongvbgunz: sure but i read two issues. this one you just detailed and the other as well23:23
tysonswWaltzingAlong all I get is a blank file23:23
stdinJohn117: now try installing the packages23:23
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vbgunzWaltzingAlong: take a break, you need a rest :)23:24
WaltzingAlongvbgunz: lol :D23:24
NickPrestaGreetings, #kubuntu23:24
BloodyTuxWud up d00ds?23:24
WaltzingAlongspelling and grammar test at 13:0023:25
tysonswWaltzingAlong all I get is a blank file23:25
edenbeastyuo feel23:25
vbgunzanybodies external usb devices, sticks, show up on the desktop when you first boot?23:25
BloodyTuxfrzoe23:25
BloodyTux...23:25
John117stdin now THIS is the error i got.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41440/23:25
BloodyTuxthis is fun23:25
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: so what was the complaint about that file anyway? that there was an error with it? which error? that it contained invalid data or no data?23:25
BloodyTuxlag23:25
BloodyTuxK, we're good23:26
* ScorpKing wonders if he will have to install all the packages he want's one by one...23:26
edenbeastJohn117: it's called compiz-core23:26
* BloodyTux looks, "Yep."23:26
tysonswWaltzingAlong invalid adress.. and I can't change in th file.. the system says that I am not root.. even if I am in the root grupp23:26
BloodyTuxScorpKing: what do you want to do?23:26
dvayanuhi... is there any chance to get back to feistys alt-tab behaviour in gutsy?23:26
stdinJohn117: open adept, go to Adept > Manage Repositories and enable the ones on the 1st tab23:26
myI have the wireless working using the restricted drivers manager23:26
John117edenbest when where do i get more update instructions?  I ask a question and you people send me an automated response from obutu and then i follow it and you say "it should be this" or "that's not right"23:27
mythe only thing is that the networks do no appear23:27
edenbeasthe typed compiz instead of compiz-core23:27
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: you do not need to be 'root' but you should open the file with kate using kdesu so like i mentioned, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list          but this assumed that the user account you are using is in the 'admin' group23:27
stdinedenbeast: "compiz" is the package23:27
edenbeastjohn117 you have to type compiz-core instead of the first compiz :-)23:27
ScorpKingBloodyTux: i'm trying to use my local repo. E: Problem with MergeList /var/apt/lists/192.168.1.1_ubuntu_dists_feisty_main_binary-i386_Packages is the error i get when i run apt-get update on a local repo.23:27
John117I TYPED WHAT THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT OBUTU SENT ME SAID TO TYPE! ARGG..23:27
edenbeaststdin here it's called compiz-core :-/23:27
stdin!caps | John11723:27
ubotuJohn117: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.23:27
edenbeaststdin but if he omits it, shouldn't compiz-kde pull it in?23:28
stdinedenbeast: see "apt-cache policy compiz"23:28
Dr_willis_is this under feisty? or Gutsy? i missee that point.23:28
tysonswWaltzingAlong I am the only account on this computer23:28
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ScorpKingBloodyTux: :P23:28
WaltzingAlongJohn117: really the frustration may not be worth compiz-fusion in kde 3.5.8. my suggestion is to play with compiz-fusion in gnome but come back to kde with kde4 when those types of effects will be included23:28
BloodyTuxScorpKing: Umm... I got no clue ^.^ Never tried anything like that xD23:28
ScorpKinglol23:28
John117stdin there is nothing on the "first tab"23:28
stdinedenbeast: the line he pus installs all the compiz packages and compiz-kde23:28
tysonswtysonsw when i rightklick on the file and ses who the owner is.. it says that root is owner and root group23:28
tysonswWaltzingAlong when i rightklick on the file and ses who the owner is.. it says that root is owner and root group23:29
BloodyTuxJohn117: What's going on?23:29
edenbeaststdin but here I got ii  compiz-core                                             1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu123:29
edenbeastit won't find just compiz here either23:29
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: which it should be.23:29
stdinedenbeast: that's one of the packges, compiz pulls that too23:29
John117bloodytux i'm ready to go back to windows.  that's whats going on . :)23:29
BloodyTuxXD LMFAO23:29
BloodyTuxJohn117: Lemme guess, program won't work?23:30
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: you should leave the file set as owned by user root and group root. but you can get 'root'-like access to it through the command             kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list                  which you can start with alt+f223:30
stdinJohn117: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8648/cap3jf4.png < like that23:30
John117bloodytux it's everything.   I ask "how do you install xxxxx" and i get a reply from "ubotu"   I follow the instructions and there are erros.23:30
dvayanucan i configure alt-tab (walk through windows) to work the same way it did in feisty (and also on macosx and windows) in gutsy?23:30
tysonswWaltzingAlong yes.. and then I try to change the file. but it says that I don't have write privi on it..23:31
BloodyTuxJohn117: Ouch. What are you trying to install?23:31
vbgunzI want my sons account to have only "read only" access to all external devices. how do I do this in Gutsy?23:31
tysonswWaltzingAlong when I do what you say.. it only gives me a empty document23:31
WaltzingAlongdvayanu: kmenu/system settings/window behavior?23:31
* ScorpKing wonders where all the clever people are today and goes away...23:31
AT0M1CB0MB3Rif i make 2 panels how can i edit one and not the other23:31
John117boodytux compiz23:31
John117stdin i did that.23:31
John117stdin just now23:31
John117stdin try again?23:32
Dr_willis_compiz under Feisty or gutsy? I missed that part.23:32
AT0M1CB0MB3RBloodyTux: remember me from yesterday im LiL-JoN23:32
BloodyTuxJohn117: Apt-get or Synaptic not working?23:32
stdinJohn117: yes, it should work now you've enabled those repositories23:32
John117dr_wallis gutsy23:32
BloodyTuxAtomguy: Ya, what's up?23:32
Dr_willis_compiz is a very complex and  detailed set of tools that have to work just right. its also VERY much a work in progreess..23:32
John117stdin <sigh> try again...23:32
stdinJohn117: make sure you close adept before you try apt-get23:32
andreash3sp4wn: Ah ok, this looks more like the new version of KDE, thanks. And automount of USB-Sticks now works, too. (But it disables my keyboard if any USB-Stick is mounted, not in the mood to look after this right now... )23:32
Dr_willis_John117,  this was a clean install? or a upgrade?23:32
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: so there you have it. an empty document. does kate show in the title sources.list?    if so, put the following as its own line then close kate (save the file):  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse23:33
dvayanuwaltzingalong: great thanx! show window list was the option... if its unset the order is broken, weird :-) but works now23:33
WaltzingAlongdvayanu: great! :D23:33
John117dr_willis_ clean23:33
Schuenemannhey, how can I check my disk usage?23:33
Schuenemanncan't find my partition in konqueror23:33
John117stdin no good.. now it says its locked again as though adept were open.. which it is not.23:33
dvayanuwaltzingalong: is there somewhere a list of changes to default settings? :-) edgy--> feisty was great, feisty-gutsy everything changed23:34
SchuenemannI mean under /media23:34
prakhow do i upgrade to gutsy through the alternate cd23:34
vbgunzanyone know how to give an account, read only access to all external devices?23:34
prak?23:34
John117stdin adept is closed23:34
WaltzingAlongdvayanu: i usually give kpersonalizer a run to set some quick defaults but then customize from there23:34
stdinJohn117: ok, try "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" to unlock it23:34
Dr_willis_vbgunz,  i think you might have to mess with the groups for that kind of controll.23:34
vbgunzDr_willis, thats the thing, my son is only in his group... I can never get the "apply" button to light up on user controls. I think it may be broken :(23:35
tysonswWaltzingAlong but if I have feisty then??23:35
stdinprak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-93ac2e597b9e0c5ff78111d4fd2bbe34a35799c723:35
WaltzingAlongryanakca: kopete crashing?23:35
WaltzingAlongkopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)23:35
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: with feisty change the 'gutsy' to 'feisty'23:35
John117stdin hot damn its connecting.  somebody should add this to instructions!!!23:35
WaltzingAlong!source-o-matic | tysonsw23:35
ubotutysonsw: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic23:35
John117stdin those boxes were not checked by default!  If they need to be checked, they should be23:36
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: you can also have source-o-magic generate a list of sources for you23:36
stdinJohn117: they are by default23:36
John117stdin *I* didn't change them.23:36
tysonswWaltzingAlong now I am in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/23:36
SchuenemannWhere can I check how much free space I have on my partition? I don't see it under /media23:36
John117stdin there must be something wrong.23:36
WaltzingAlongSchuenemann: df -h23:37
stdinJohn117: unless something disabled those sources, or possible if you install with no network connection23:37
BloodyTuxJohn11723:37
BloodyTux...23:37
WaltzingAlongSchuenemann: or df -h .23:37
ryanakcaWaltzingAlong: thanks :)23:37
SchuenemannWaltzingAlong, can I check that graphically too, as I can with my other partitions?23:37
BloodyTuxJohn117: It's me.. Muahahahaha. I agree with stdin, it might be that a program you installed unchecked them.23:37
John117stdin I did install with no network connection.. it took me 2 days to get the network working.. holy crap this is so complicated..  no such thing as plug and play with ubuntu. LOL23:37
seriekrockyo23:37
BloodyTuxXD23:37
edenbeastvbgunz what kind of devices are you talking about? usb-keys and such?23:37
Dr_willis_John117,  i found it all plug and play.23:38
BloodyTuxYou're just realizing this John?23:38
vbgunzedenbeast: yes23:38
niosopAnyone gotten a (K)ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 machine to join an ADS domain?23:38
John117dr_willis_ i wish..  from my atheros wirless card to my ati video card.  NOTHING has worked out of the box.23:38
edenbeastvbgunz then adapting /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi may do the trick23:38
Dr_willis_Pluged in a scanner today and it saw it right off. no drivers needed at all. same for my 3 printers. :)23:38
edenbeastvbgunz look for23:38
edenbeastvbgunz vfat or something, 1 sec23:38
stdinJohn117: if you install with no network connection it disabled the network repositories, or it would try to connect to a non-existent network and fail23:38
Dr_willis_John117,  blame ati , and the wiureless card makers for their lousy linux support.23:38
tysonswWaltzingAlong so now that I have regenrated a source.list.. should I delete the old one.. and rename and save the new one in /etc/apr/???23:39
Dr_willis_ati is promising to get better.. but so far.. nothing23:39
WaltzingAlongSchuenemann: without the . you will see them all. to see that graphically? right mouse clicking on a folder in konqueror should do it on the properties tab23:39
John117okay.. well the last command is done.. gotta go for now though..  be back later.23:39
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: sure you could do that23:39
myhmm something is wrong with kopete and hotmail accounts23:39
dvayanuwaltzingalong: thanx once more23:39
John117thanks fo ryour help all!  i'll either learn this ubuntu shit or die trying.23:39
SanneJohn117: linux distros usually don't have the "persuasive" power to make hardware vendors support their platform like a certain other company has.23:39
edenbeastvbgunz: starting with <match key="volume.fstype" string="vfat">   there you'll have to add something that places it with a specific group  but I don't remember immediately what23:39
vbgunzedenbeast: thank you for your help23:39
WaltzingAlongnot yet23:39
stdin*if* people have some patience and ask for help, then the'll get answers23:40
Dr_willis_heck MS even charges companies to get a 'ms certified badge' :)23:40
niosopNo-one has their (K)Ubuntu machine joined as a member server to an ADS domain?23:40
ubuntu_has any one here used gentoo?23:40
Dr_willis_I used gentoo ages ago.23:40
seriekrockanyone can help me with flash and java, i have 64 bit system23:40
SchuenemannWaltzingAlong, hmmm, ok... thanks23:40
niosopubuntu_ I used to use it all the time23:40
stdin!flash6423:40
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava23:40
ubuntu_niosop mat  i im u?23:40
niosopsure23:40
seriekrockbut im using konqueror23:40
WaltzingAlongSchuenemann: but that shows one at a time, not sure of a way in kubuntu to get it to show all together. a nice 'all in one' sys info screen seems desirable23:41
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stdinseriekrock: as far as I know, it needs to be firefox to work23:41
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basculecan koqueror use java at all, I have never had it work23:42
carwash^bas23:42
carwash^should work23:42
carwash^set java path inpreferences23:42
dvayanuTo continue, type the phrase "I am aware that this is a very bad idea":23:42
WaltzingAlongbascule: sure the trick for me has been to specify the location of java (like opera needs)23:42
tysonswWaltzingAlong I cant delet that file.. it sais that I dont have access to do that23:42
dvayanuThe following ESSENTIAL packages will be REMOVED! util-linux23:42
dvayanui'm scared now23:42
BrightEyes`what does "The mount point '/media/hda3' is already occupied" mean?23:43
basculeWaltzingAlong: ok, which java the output of that?23:43
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: alright edit it, replacing the entire contents with the sources from source-o-matic                   to open it again, alt+f2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list23:43
WaltzingAlongdvayanu: so the decision is?? drumroll? what were you doing that asked to remove that package?23:44
dvayanuinstall linux3223:44
IkeKrullanyone know how i disable dolphin, and just use konqueror for filesystem urls on kubuntu 7.10?23:44
dvayanufrom the flash in firefox on amd64 article23:44
vbgunzI need a little help on making devices read only for my son. I am a bit lost :(23:44
WaltzingAlongIkeKrull: yes23:44
aspirin_on_kubunhow i set the command nvidia-settings --load-config-only" at startup of kde23:44
andreasBrightEyes`: apparently, there is already somethin mounted at thes place. Where do you get this message?23:45
IkeKrullWaltzingAlong: would you be willing to share this information?23:45
WaltzingAlongIkeKrull: http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but with konqueror instead of dolphin23:45
OakboxBrightEyes`: i think it means that you have something mounted to /media/hda3 already...23:45
IkeKrullah right, cool23:45
IkeKrullthanks23:45
tysonswWaltzingAlong: it stil don't work.. it wont change the content23:46
carwash^any eta on a kopete-fix?23:46
basculeWaltzingAlong: it worked, I have konqueror java :)/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so23:46
basculedunni why i pasted that total mistake ...23:46
WaltzingAlongbascule: :D23:46
BrightEyes`andreas: in the /media/ folder23:46
vbgunzbe right back, I think I may have fixed the issue but only really see when I reboot23:47
Oakboxif i install compiz and something goes wrong is there and easy way to get rid of it again... only last time i tried i ended up reinstalling23:47
Oakboxcarwash^: what kopete-fix?23:48
carwash^Oakbox: it crashes on connection to msn23:48
WaltzingAlongkopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)23:48
Oakboxcarwash^: WaltzingAlong is too quick for me again23:49
carwash^:P shipping 7.10 with this bug is huge :(23:49
tysonswWaltzingAlong now it works.. the name wasn't sourse.. it was sourses.. so now it worked :P thanks fo the help :P  while I am on it.. what does kate do?23:49
basculeedits texy23:50
basculetext23:50
basculetex23:50
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  compiz should be rather easy to disable.23:50
andreasvbgunz: if they are whole partitions, you can mount them with ro (read only) in /etc/fstab (instead of defult), otherwise, chown the whole thing to root and chmod -R 7123:50
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: kate is a (line) text editor23:50
Dr_willis_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion23:50
andreasvbgunz: aä, chmod -R 744 ./* in the base directory23:51
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  thers a setting file you can make that will stop it from running also. (i forget where that is however) :)23:51
BrightEyes`im asking questions all day and noone helped me23:51
niosopAnyone been able to join ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 as an ADS member server using net ads join and not net rpc join?23:51
tysonswWaltzingAlong okej... big thanks for the help.. only one more thing that I have a problem with.. my wireless keps diable itsel.. can I stop that somehow?23:51
OakboxDr_willis_: ta for that, i just dont know if i should attempt it again :D23:52
tysonswdisable*23:52
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: should be able to do so. check !wifi to see about configuring it23:52
andreasBrightEyes`: console at sudo mount? If yes, i assume the spot is already occupied23:52
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  how it stands now. To enable compiz with kde. you must make an 'Autostart' entry for it.23:52
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  or manually start it.23:52
tysonswWaltzingAlong does not work..23:53
WaltzingAlong!wifi | tysonsw23:53
ubotutysonsw: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:53
BrightEyes`andreas: i want to configure my grub to boot windows.i was using kubuntu for 6 months now and i decided to install windows again.i installed it then somehow installed grub again but there were no entries for windows.what can i do23:53
OakboxDr_willis_: sorry not that savy whats an Autostart :S23:53
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  .kde/Autostart23:53
WaltzingAlongOakbox: ~/.kde/Autostart23:53
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Oakboxthank will have a look :)23:53
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  just a directory of commands/scripts that get ran at login23:53
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  proberly better to just manually start compiz Untill you decide if you like it23:54
WaltzingAlong!grub | BrightEyes`23:54
ubotuBrightEyes`: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto23:54
NickPrestaOakbox: alternately, you can install compiz-fusion-icon and symlink that to ~/.kde/Autostart. That will start up the system tray icon which allows you to switch decorators, etc23:54
BrightEyes`WaltzingAlong: i tried that thing with the live cd. IT DOESNT WORK!23:54
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  if your windows install was on hda1 (first HD, first partition) therens an example grub menu entry commented out in the menu.lst you can just uncomment it.23:54
Oakboxaah too much to take in hehe.23:54
BrightEyes`WaltzingAlong: how many times should i try those things23:55
Dr_willis_!info compiz-fusion-icon23:55
ubotuPackage compiz-fusion-icon does not exist in gutsy23:55
Linux_Galoreanyone got the link for the CD cover artwork for Kubuntu Gutsy, Im running of a batch of CD/DVD's23:55
Dr_willis_!find fusion23:55
pillowpantshow has gutsy been coming along23:55
ubotuFound: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-fusion-plugins-main, libfusionsound-0.9-25, libfusionsound-dev, libfusionsound-doc23:55
BrightEyes`Dr_willis_:  windows is on hda3 (hd0,2)23:55
WaltzingAlongBrightEyes`: ask google 'boot to windows from grub' or something similar23:55
pillowpantsis it more or less safe to upgrade?23:55
pillowpantshas the dust settled?23:55
wertyhi there...23:55
Linux_Galorethe local update server here in AU are still very sluggish23:56
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  then uncomment the example and change that  hd0,0 to be hd0,2 HOWEVER - windows may not like not being on the drive23:56
wertyhow can i download IPTraf?23:56
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  ive had issues with windows when its not on the first partition.23:56
Dr_willis_!find iptraf23:56
ubotuFound: iptraf23:56
NickPrestaDr_willis_: I believe I got CF-icon from getdeb.com or from the forums.23:56
andreasBrightEyes`: then you dont have to mount yout windows partition but have to edit grub.conf. See links given by others.23:56
Dr_willis_!info iptraf23:56
ubotuiptraf: Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0-4 (gutsy), package size 162 kB, installed size 744 kB23:56
Linux_Galore!artwork23:56
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy23:56
WaltzingAlongBrightEyes`: but you can use grub to fake windows into thinking it is the first partition on the first drive23:56
Dr_willis_werty,  fire up the package manager and install it? :)23:57
BrightEyes`WaltzingAlong: how can i do that23:57
sdlnxgkanyone using KDE 3.5 ???23:57
WaltzingAlongBrightEyes`: ask google 'boot to windows from grub' or something similar23:57
Dr_willis_WaltzingAlong,  can you swap partitions that way? or just Drives.. :)  i forget - had to do that ages ago.. so i make SURE i dont have to any more23:57
potyhow can I configure my widescreen monitor on Kubuntu 7.04 feisty ¿?23:57
potyhow can I configure my widescreen monitor on Kubuntu 7.04 feisty ¿?23:57
sdlnxgkhow do you view sysinfo in Konqueror??23:57
Dr_willis_!fixres23:57
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto23:57
sdlnxgkpoty I use a program called envy and works awesome for my 24" wide screen running SLI mode23:58
Tm_Tsdlnxgk: sysinfo:/ ?23:58
nosrednaekim!envy23:58
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!23:58
Dr_willis_envy is a bad idea....23:58
sdlnxgkTm_T, I tried that but says malformed url23:58
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Tm_Tnosrednaekim: thanks23:58
BrightEyes`how can i remove the boot loader from MBR ?23:58
sdlnxgkDr_willis,  why is envy a bad idea??23:58
nosrednaekimTm_T: NP :)23:58
potywhy a bad idea ¿?23:59
Tm_Tsdlnxgk: then something else :p23:59
Dr_willis_sdlnxgk,  like the bot said.. it can break your system badly23:59
WaltzingAlongno it has to do with chainloading and hiding others23:59
sdlnxgkDr_willis, if you use the wrong version yes I can see that23:59
Dr_willis_sdlnxgk,  had to fix a guys sytem at work the other day when he used envy23:59
sdlnxgknever have  a problem running it23:59
potyanybody a link to a  envy donwload23:59
Dr_willis_then he ended up doing a clean install..23:59
Dr_willis_sdlnxgk,  you are in the minority then.23:59
Linux_Galoregrrr cant seem to find the Kubuntu 7.10 artwork23:59

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