[00:00] <h3sp4wn> !info b43-fwcutter
[00:00] <ubotu> Package b43-fwcutter does not exist in gutsy
[00:00] <Dr_willis> I would still LOVE to see a compiz setting/module/tool that just shows ALL the keyboard shutcuts that are in use.
[00:00] <Dr_willis> !find fwcutter
[00:00] <ubotu> Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:00] <kotelo> who is going to fix the snapshot number six?
[00:00] <kotelo> who is going to fix the snapshot number six?
[00:00] <kotelo> who is going to fix the snapshot number six?
[00:00] <kotelo> :S
[00:00] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis :D
[00:00] <kotelo> really
[00:00] <kotelo> fix it
[00:00] <kotelo> xD
[00:00] <Minataku> Say, Dr_Willis, why not come to #kubuntu-offtopic ? :3
[00:00] <Dr_willis> Hay Min.
[00:00] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: I thought you hated compiz ?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  theres so far 2 features of it i like. the rest is just fluff :)
[00:01] <Dr_willis> and it still needs a lot of work.
[00:01] <dvayanu> so... where can i find help with fonts?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  depends on the problem :)
[00:01] <sven_> who knows the name of the compiz effect where clikcing on a window that is half below another window will cause both windows to move away from eachother and then back on top of eachother with the clicked window on top/??
[00:01] <Fade2Blac> how would i disable the card so i can start kubuntu\
[00:01] <kotelo> Riddell, fix the snapshot number six!! --> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/
[00:01] <kotelo> Riddell, fix the snapshot number six!! --> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/
[00:01] <dvayanu> dr_willis: the fonts just do look bad :-)
[00:01] <dvayanu> i had mscorefonts package installed
[00:01] <Dr_willis> sven_,  thats the 'dodge' effect under focus i think.
[00:01] <h3sp4wn> dvayanu: sgi released some nice ones but they are not utf8 unfortunately
[00:02] <dvayanu> but it seems it doesn't work anymore
[00:02] <Lars_G> what's wrong with kotelo?
[00:02] <sven_> Dr_willis, looking it up.. thanks
[00:02] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  this is under a upgrade to gutsy?
[00:02] <kotelo> Lars_G, ;D
[00:02] <dvayanu> dr_willis yeah
[00:02] <nadinetetine> why when i type cat /etc/issue in the terminal it says that i have 7.10, but adept told me that i can update to 7.10 and when i do so, it keeps giving error
[00:02] <dvayanu> just upgraded
[00:02] <Lega> 'lo.
[00:03] <nadinetetine> help! why when i type cat /etc/issue in the terminal it says that i have 7.10, but adept told me that i can update to 7.10 and when i do so, it keeps giving error
[00:03] <dvayanu> the updater said something about installing x-ttcidfont-conf
[00:03] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  ive sen several people ask about font issues in #ubuntu today. i would say check the forums - there may be some thread on it by now - given how many people ive seen with issues.
[00:03] <Dr_willis> I always do a clean install.. :)
[00:03] <dvayanu> cant afford that ...
[00:03] <Dr_willis> and i think i will CONTINUE to always do a clean install.
[00:03] <h3sp4wn> dvayanu: are you using kde or gnome ?
[00:03] <Fade2Blac> does anyone know
[00:03] <dvayanu> hs3sp4wn: kde
[00:04] <dvayanu> otherwise i would be on ubuntu wouldnt i? :-)
[00:04] <Fade2Blac> how to disable something so it does load on start up, the wireless card will not let me boot kubuntu
[00:04] <Fade2Blac> without getting an error
[00:04] <h3sp4wn> dvayanu: I wouldn't too busy
[00:04] <frank_> ok I have to continue the upgrade. is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  gonna work?  does the dist-upgrader do something else?
[00:04] <Dr_willis> Fade2Blac,  an error that wont let it continue booting?
[00:04] <dvayanu> my brother has same issue with gnome
[00:04] <h3sp4wn> dvayanu: There is something related to gtk that they have fixed it so it doesn't hardcode 96dpi anymore
[00:05] <dvayanu> ah
[00:05] <h3sp4wn> but if its pure kde that shouldn't be effected
[00:05] <dvayanu> i'vve seen an option
[00:05] <Fade2Blac> yes this error
[00:06] <Fade2Blac> bcm43xx: error : microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[00:06] <dvayanu> hmm...
[00:06] <h3sp4wn> Fade2Blac: get it from wl.o
[00:06] <dvayanu> force fonts dpi to 120 makes it a bit better
[00:06] <Fade2Blac> do u have a url
[00:06] <dvayanu> or lets say more readable
[00:06] <Lars_G> dvayanu: Aren't monitors general 72dpi anyhow?
[00:07] <Dr_willis> Fade2Blac,  that shouldent stop the system from booting..
[00:07] <Dr_willis> Fade2Blac,  install the fwcutter package. it 'should' auto-dwnload those files
[00:07] <dvayanu> lars_g: i'm just tryint to get readable konsole font
[00:07] <Dr_willis> !find fwcutter
[00:07] <ubotu> Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:07] <frank_> I'm pretty disappointed with the upgrader for kubuntu. I would be pretty screwed if I didn't know what I was doing...
[00:07] <Dr_willis> or at least it did for me.
[00:07] <h3sp4wn> Fade2Blac: http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0.tar.bz2.
[00:07] <Lars_G> frank_: I've had 50% luck so far
[00:07] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: No
[00:08] <Fade2Blac> so the command to install fwcutter would be
[00:08] <Rudd-O> hai guise, is wine broken for you in gutsy?
[00:08] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: Its entirely dependant on size (especially with lcd panels)
[00:08] <Rudd-O> it stopped working after the upgrade
[00:08] <Rudd-O> and I need it :-(
[00:08] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: its dots per inch
[00:08] <frank_> Lars_G: i'm just continuing the upgrade in the terminal. I hope it works
[00:08] <wesley> systemsettings crashed at startup anyone does have this problem?
[00:08] <purpleposeidon> How do I real install grub?
[00:08] <Lars_G> h3sp4wn: dpi is dependant on density.
[00:08] <purpleposeidon> *reinstall?
[00:08] <Rudd-O> gutsy has been the buggiest release I've seen in the ubuntu history
[00:09] <Lars_G> frank_: me too
[00:09] <Rudd-O> dpi proportional to resolution, inversely proportional to display dimensions
[00:10] <h3sp4wn> Rudd-O: Yep
[00:10] <Fade2Blac> hey dr. what would that command be
[00:10] <Rudd-O> so any ideas about wine?
[00:10] <frank_> Lars_G: things like this make me feel the kubuntu side of ubuntu is neglected.
[00:10] <Rudd-O> how can I downgrade to a previous version?
[00:11] <h3sp4wn> frank_: It always has been
[00:11] <wesley> Mandriva is the best if it comes to config
[00:12] <frank_> h3sp4wn: is there anyone else other than ridell working on kubuntu specifically?
[00:12] <Fade2Blac> mandriva
[00:12] <Lars_G> !search fwcutter
[00:12] <ubotu> Found:
[00:12] <wesley> Yes mandriva linux 2008
[00:12] <h3sp4wn> frank_: Not who gets paid to afaik
[00:12] <ndrea> "Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program will now exit" Do someone know why I'm getting this error in the Upgrade Wizard?
[00:12] <purpleposeidon> Last time I used mandrake, I couldn't find any help, or documentation, or install anything, or...
[00:13] <Lars_G> Fade2Blac: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:13] <frank_> ndrea: I got that too. but the second time i tried it worked
[00:13] <ndrea> ok
[00:13] <Fade2Blac> thx :) so that should fix it
[00:13] <ndrea> i try
[00:13] <wesley> its better then kubuntu 7.10 i think Mandriva did a good job i think
[00:13] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[00:13] <Dr_willis> purpleposeidon,  thats amazing.. giving the HUGE volumes of info on the internet about every disrto out. :)
[00:13] <Lars_G> Fade2Blac: no idea but that's how you get fwcutter
[00:13] <Fade2Blac> thank you
[00:13] <frank_> ndrea: the upgrader application crashed mid-upgrade for me though. I can't really recommend it unless you really know what you're doing
[00:14] <Lars_G> Dr_willis: when I left mandrake pre-mandriva their page organization was..... difficutl
[00:14] <Dr_willis> With linux it pays to learn the Fundamentals.. then the rest is just iceing. :)
[00:14] <ndrea> frank_: hm, what should I do then?
[00:14] <purpleposeidon> Dr_willis: It seemd to me that every site I looked at was under construction, or something
[00:15] <Lars_G> It's so sad flash is closed source
[00:15] <frank_> ndrea: I'm really not sure...
[00:15] <Lars_G> I wish some madman had done an aalib based flash player so I could play orisinal games on elinks while I wait for the install to finish
[00:15] <Rudd-O> just reported the wine bug
[00:15] <hydrogen> trying to compile a qt3 program I get "vk_file_utils.cpp:49:27: error: qplatformdefs.h: No such file or directory".. qplatformdefs.h exists in usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/*/.. I've installed libqt3-mt-dev
[00:15] <Rudd-O> sheesh how did I go to a totally working system to a broken one...
[00:15] <frank_> ndrea: I'm not the only one here who has had problems with the upgrader
[00:15] <ndrea>  Ok.... I'll just make a try or two :)
[00:16] <Rudd-O> guys, how can I downgrade a package to an older version?
[00:16] <Rudd-O> using adept of course?
[00:16] <frank_> ndrea: well i got to warn you if the upgrader crashes you might be left with an unbootable system
[00:16] <ndrea> could it be because there are many people downloading from that server?
[00:16] <Lars_G> Sigh all I have left is to look at ascii porn in links
[00:16] <ndrea> och, really?
[00:17] <h3sp4wn> ndrea: Do it from the cli (stop kdm) and using aptitude
[00:17] <ndrea> better uninstall and install again?
[00:17] <Lars_G> aptitude is gold
[00:17] <frank_> ndrea: well that's one to do it
[00:18] <frank_> ndrea: well that's one way to do it
[00:18] <Rudd-O> guys, how can I downgrade to a previous versino of a package using adept?
[00:18] <Rudd-O> or at least gimme the apt-get command or whatever
[00:19] <hydrogen> has anyone built valkyrie on linux lately?
[00:20] <Dr_willis> !apt
[00:20] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[00:20] <Dr_willis> I cant say that ive ever downgraded/pinned a version of an app.
[00:20] <Dr_willis> but ive seen it mentioned in the aptget howto
[00:21] <hydrogen> it's not compiling against qt for some fun reason
[00:21] <ove> test
[00:21] <Dr_willis> 4+3=?
[00:22] <sven_> 8?
[00:22] <Dr_willis> If a train leaves chichago going east at 59 miles an hr......
[00:22] <Dr_willis> whats your favorite color?
[00:23] <ove> my favorite color is white!
[00:23] <ubuntu> My external drive won't mount, it gives this error:
[00:24] <ubuntu> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[00:24] <ubuntu> Anyone know what that means?
[00:25] <jereme_> hey all... so it looks like on GG ubuntu that there is a simple preference for switching to compiz-fusion
[00:25] <jereme_> is there anything similar for kubuntu?
[00:25] <jereme_> or am I just high on the "dope" all around?
[00:25] <sven_> Is there anybody else who is having problems with the restricted driver manager? It was commented to me that this was due to the huge load the servers were getting but what I see is just a window hanging before I even press "Ok" or anything.. The url specified in that window can be downloaded without problem using wget anyway.. its a .o file, can I install that file somewhere manually so that I can get my wireless to work? please?
[00:26] <h3sp4wn> ndrea: just try inside X with aptitude then
[00:26] <sven_> jereme_, AFAIK, compiz is not yet officially supported under KDE and so they don't have a simple tool for it yet
[00:26] <ubuntu> sven_ , I was having trouble yesterday during light hours, so I waited until after dark. Worked fine then.
[00:26] <sven_> jereme_, but I have been told that kdm also has its own composite manager
[00:26] <jereme_> sven_: gotcha...
[00:26] <jereme_> hrm
[00:26] <jereme_> I'll sniff around
[00:27] <h3sp4wn> ndrea: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/feisty/gutsy/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[00:27] <h3sp4wn> ndrea: use the pastebin if there is any issues
[00:27] <sven_> ubuntu, but.. I just say "Enable driver" and then I get a window that hangs.. that really is normal?
[00:27] <sven_> ubuntu, in any case, I already got the file here.. all I need now is to know how to install it
[00:28] <ubuntu> sven_, It did the same thing for me. Reboot and see if it works in a bit
[00:28] <stardog> so....dude....what's up with kopete?
[00:28] <ubuntu> all, My external drive won't mount, it gives this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[00:28] <sven_> Ubukubu, weeeeiiirrrddd
[00:29] <Dr_willis> KDE4 is to have its own composit manager
[00:29] <Dr_willis> 'kdm' is the login manager. :)
[00:29] <jereme_> I was wondering about that statement
[00:30] <Dr_willis> with linux - it pays to be very 'precise' and 'specific' :)
[00:30] <jereme_> and 'punctual'
[00:30] <Dr_willis> and polite
[00:30] <Dr_willis> and verbose yet concise.
[00:30] <jereme_> and 'not a smart ass like me'
[00:30] <Dr_willis> jereme_,  ive seen worse... today in fact.. :)
[00:30] <purpleposeidon> and to always avoid alliteration
[00:31] <Dr_willis> aparently 'i dident know what i was talking about.. since the guy i was trying to help, had NO linux knowledge whatso ever' so it was my fault i couldent dumb down 'edit a file' enough for him
[00:31] <jereme_> hrm, I did a dist-upgrade a the prompt but the distribution upgrade manager still foudn more stuff
[00:31] <jereme_> foo
[00:31] <jereme_> and I'm getting screaming download speeds of 21k/sec :)
[00:31] <Dr_willis> yep.
[00:32] <Dr_willis> thats why i normally do my 'update/upgrades' the day befor the release.. then again about a week later
[00:32] <jereme_> I was caught by surprise on this release
[00:32] <jereme_> I forgot to pay attention
[00:32] <Dr_willis> is it really that critical you be upto date right this instant? :)
[00:32] <atlfalcons866> ##windows
[00:33] <Dr_willis> !windows
[00:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[00:33] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: next time just get him to load emacs and type M-x doctor
[00:34] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Brewery offers lifetime supply of beer in return for stolen laptop
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Now thats a Reward!
[00:34] <jereme_> Dr_willis: nope, I just don't have any other pending emergency projects at work, so I figured the end of a friday is as good as any day
[00:34] <jereme_> plus I only have 2 packages to grab, I've already got the rest
[00:34] <rafiki> apo!
[00:34] <Dr_willis> and polite and patient. :)
[00:34] <rafiki> õóëåòóä?
[00:35] <jereme_> "hey brian!  my alphabets are talking to me... they're saying, 'oooooooooooooooooooooo...'"   "Peter, those are cheerios."
[00:37] <h3sp4wn> Anyone played with the new kernel build infrastructure in gutsy
[00:38] <Dr_willis> i aint had to mess with the kernel since i switched to ubuntu. :)
[00:38] <h3sp4wn> I want either cfs or sd scheduler
[00:38] <h3sp4wn> I notice it being not quite right
[00:39] <atlfalcons866> !offtopic
[00:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:42] <purpleposeidon> How do do you reinstall grub?
[00:45] <jereme_> hrm, the upgrade wants to uninstall my running kernel headers
[00:45] <g-hennux> hi!
[00:46] <g-hennux> i have just installed kubuntu gutsy (was on gentoo before) and my bash prompt highlighting does not work any more
[00:46] <g-hennux> i used all of my old .bash files, but it simply does not change the prompt color
[00:46] <Dr_willis> g-hennux,  try a simple script that sets the prompt and source it.
[00:47] <Dr_willis> could be simple thing like the .bahrc or .bash_profile not getting read from the terminal
[00:47] <g-hennux> Dr_willis: oh, sorry, forget that, my fault... stupid me had not set the prompt color in .bashrc, but in /etc/bash_bashrc or so, which of course was not taken over
[00:48] <g-hennux> is there a good way to get a really old java version (1.1 or 1.2) on this machine? preferrable via apt?
[00:48] <seriekrock> yo
[00:49] <sven_> Anybody here with knowledge of VPNs? I need to connect to our local network with VPN.. I just installed kvpnc to do this.. All I got was an ip adress, a user name and a password, no "what protocol" or anything like that so I need to figure that one out by myself.. But.. every protocol I can select needs certificates, keys, id, files, and god knows what more.. Who can tell me what I need to connect to a vpn when I only have a username, a password and a In IP?
[00:49] <g-hennux> sven_: what kind of vpn?
[00:49] <g-hennux> pptp, cisco, ...?
[00:49] <g-hennux> or anything non-proprietary? :-)
[00:50] <sven_> g-hennux, good question, they cant tell me, they dont know.. all they know is that they use "checkpoint", www.checkpoint.com.. I have no knowledge of VPN's so..
[00:51] <sven_> network guys here could not tell me, they don't know (yay)
[00:51] <wastedfluid> hey, my x session keeps crashing.. it's jst random.. screne turns black, and it re-loads kde.. where do i go about starting to troubleshoot this?
[00:52] <sven_> wastedfluid, using yakuake by any chance?
[00:52] <wastedfluid> nope.
[00:53] <wastedfluid> Latest thing I installed was an older version of kmix... so the volume stuff would work.  but all i did was uninstall kmix, and install a newer version.
[00:53] <sven_> g-hennux, any VPN type you know of that only needs a name, password and IP address?
[00:53] <wastedfluid> er, uninstall kmix, and install an <older> version
[00:53] <g-hennux> sven_: hm, usually anything should... though, wait, it's *not* cisco and it's even more not pptp :-)
[00:53] <g-hennux> at least after the experience i have
[00:54] <g-hennux> maybe some simple openvpn stuff or so?
[00:54] <zolar> I still need assistance on install a pcmica card on version 7.10 please help
[00:54] <sven_> I think it was openswan actually, tried that some time ago, but got an error "only version 1.x supported" or something like that, but does the server or client only support version 1.x? in any case, I cant get openswan configured anymore with only user name, pass and up
[00:54] <sven_> up = ip
[00:54] <frank_> I upgraded to gutsy. it work fine ;)   the upgrader is not up to par though :(
[00:57] <zolar> is any one out there with knolodge of installing pcmcia network cards on 7.10
[01:00]  * BluesKaj wonders if there's a 64 bit gutsy chat
[01:01] <BrightEyes`> hello.just installed j2se with netbeans and i want to install some add-ons as well. i installed the 1st 2 packs in /home/user/ . when im trying to install BlueJ i get "nitializing InstallShield Wizard........ Searching JVM..dirname: extra operand `IDE'  Try `dirname --help' for more information." what can i do for that?
[01:01] <jereme_> hrm...  is there an easy way to change my console resolution?
[01:05] <davix> why the hell does the installer makes me format my /
[01:05]  * nosrednaekim gasps that the mirrors are slow....slower than his 26K dial-up
[01:05] <davix> it's emptey, I only have there a backup I need, and it's not dispensible
[01:06] <davix> how do I override this idiotic setting?
[01:06] <g-hennux> davix: what do you want it to do?
[01:06] <davix> to install the system to my selected root
[01:06] <davix> without formatting it
[01:07] <davix> it sais it needs to format my ext3 partition for /
[01:07] <bottiger> I just had a really horrible experience with compiz+kde (made kde really really *really* slow, while gnome was fine). After a lot of debugging I uninstalled xgl, and everything runs fine.
[01:07] <davix> I say hell no, I've already installed 3 systems without formatting the /
[01:07] <davix> one after the other
[01:07] <kotelo> i have a question
[01:07] <bottiger> Have you tried of anything like that?
[01:07] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:07] <kotelo> help please
[01:07] <g-hennux> the ati drivers that come with gutsy are not aiglx-enabled, right?
[01:08] <bottiger> g-hennux: no
[01:08] <bottiger> g-hennux: or right
[01:08] <davix> try the feisty way bottiger http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/04/beryl-in-feisty-with-xgl.html
[01:08] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:08] <kotelo> somebody?
[01:08] <g-hennux> davix: thanks :-)
[01:08] <davix> np hope u score it
[01:08] <davix> it's really good looking
[01:09] <vellakd> How do I check what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[01:09] <bottiger> davix: hmm - I have nvidia.
[01:09] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:09] <zolar> is no one there who know pcmicia network card intallation
[01:09] <bottiger> davix: but compiz works great now
[01:09] <davix> bottiger, level with me right now
[01:09] <kotelo> please answer me
[01:09] <kotelo> xD
[01:09] <davix> did you concider using google?
[01:09] <g-hennux> bottiger: but, does that also mean that i cannot have those cool 3d-effects with gutsy outofthebox?
[01:09] <bottiger> davix: it was just the xgl+kde which was slow
[01:09] <kotelo> helloo....
[01:10] <davix> oh god. apparently I'm in the wrong channel.
[01:10] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:10] <adz21c> kotelo look for compiz in adept manager/package manager of ur choice
[01:10] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:10] <davix> listen xgl+kde is possible
[01:10] <bottiger> g-hennux: no, just use xgl
[01:10] <scrottles> hi
[01:10] <zolar> how do you change you alias on this
[01:10] <davix> hint hint, libGL
[01:10] <kotelo> adz21c, if i do something like an.... apt-get install compiz-kde , this will install compiz fusion?
[01:11] <scrottles> i installed swf-player   and mozilla-plugin-gnash  yet i still cannot get it working on firefox
[01:11] <davix> g-hennux can you help me with the installer?
[01:11] <scrottles> using you tube to test.
[01:11] <scrottles> what are the package names to get flash working with firefox ?
[01:11] <adz21c> kotelo: i think it will install compiz, from what i know compiz fusion is just some plugins (that were and were not beryl) u use with compiz
[01:11] <scrottles> using apt-get
[01:12] <adz21c> flashnonfreee i think or something like that
[01:12] <jereme_> compiz-fusion is the merger of compiz and beryl
[01:12] <jereme_> beryl was a fork off of the original compiz project
[01:12] <g-hennux> davix: i suppose the reason is that you don't want to lose your homedir?
[01:12] <jereme_> eventually they decided to rejoin forces
[01:12] <davix> yeah
[01:12] <jereme_> so compiz-fusion != compiz per say
[01:12] <adz21c> yea but i think most of the beryl stuff was converted to compiz plugins
[01:12] <davix> g-hennux since when does a distro forces a format? (ahem)
[01:13] <jereme_> still compiz-fusion and compiz are not exactly equal, and packages are named appropriately
[01:13] <g-hennux> davix: hm, don't know, i'd like to do a format to have a clean install anyway
[01:14] <davix> oh lord, nevermind eyecandy now
[01:14] <davix> g-hennux many would, yet some undeniable portion wouldn't
[01:14] <moofoo> what was the url for the updated kopete/kdelibs deb again?
[01:14] <g-hennux> davix: so, to conclude, no idea how to get around that :-)
[01:14] <davix> :)
[01:14] <moofoo> or is it already in the repos?
[01:15] <Angelus> when im booting into kubuntu, the monitor turns off instead of the bootup splash, then it turns back on with the kde login screen, any help please? :S
[01:15] <[Relic]> if I want to set up all the fonts and look as "root" so every user uses the same look to begin with, what do I need to run?
[01:16] <davix> ui
[01:16] <zolar> I have tried every thing and can not get the wireless networking on kubuntu 7.10  what is wrong
[01:17] <donsdw> After upgrade, where are my old Kubuntu files?
[01:17] <flake> how do i do anonymous browsing?
[01:20] <CrazyPoultry> sorry if this sounds stupid, but i was trying to install the kde4 beta, and during the install my dog stepped on the mouse and managed to close the konsole window, now if i try to use apt-get i get an unavalible error, any ideas on how to fix that?
[01:21] <CrazyPoultry> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) is the error
[01:21] <Jucato> !aptfix | CrazyPoultry
[01:21] <ubotu> CrazyPoultry: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:21] <NickPresta> Greetings, #Kubuntu.
[01:21] <noir> Hello.
[01:22] <Jucato> Greetings! Live long and prosper! :)
[01:22] <Angelus> when im booting into kubuntu, the monitor turns off instead of the bootup splash, then it turns back on with the kde login screen, any help please? :S
[01:22] <CrazyPoultry> Jucato: thanks
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> does !tell foo about bar work here
[01:22] <Toma-> ...why does adept keep doing that?
[01:22] <iss_student> How do I turn on desktop effects in Kubuntu?
[01:22] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: yep. or !bar > foo
[01:22] <NickPresta> heh. Any specific pages that deal with setting up Twinview in Gutsy? My nvidia-settings application provides only one panel and it's the settings panel...
[01:22] <Jucato> !compiz | iss_student
[01:22] <ubotu> iss_student: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:23] <Jucato> Toma-: doing what?
[01:23] <adz21c> Angelus: what graphics card do you have? cos for me personally I had to disable to splash else I couldn't even get into gutsy
[01:23] <Toma-> Jucato➔ leaving the system in a broken state
[01:23] <wastedfluid> hey, my x session keeps crashing.. it's jst random.. screne turns black, and it re-loads kde.. where do i go about starting to troubleshoot this?
[01:23] <Jucato> Toma-: actually it's doing that to prevent leaving the system in a broken state
[01:23] <Jucato> and it's not Adept, it's APT that does it
[01:24] <[Relic]> firefox 2 or 3 the best to install now?  just wondering if 3 is stable enough for use
[01:24] <adz21c> NickPresta: I couldn't say tbh but if you give me an idea what your looking for and pastebin your xorg.conf i could give u an example of what I might do if you wish?
[01:24] <kudar> just installed kubuntu 7.10. having wireless problems
[01:24] <Toma-> Jucato➔ hehe how ironic
[01:24] <Jucato> [Relic]: don't think there's firefox 3 yet in the repos. still in beta
[01:24] <noir> Alright, I'm brand new to Linux, and am finding that Kubuntu does not like my USB speakers.
[01:24] <noir> Any ideas?
[01:24] <[Relic]> Jucato: firefox-3.0 (dev version) is listed in adept
[01:25] <NickPresta> adz21c, thank you for offering help. I've actually had a Twinview setup in Feisty for the last 10 months. But after the upgrade to Gutsy, it stopped working (no dual displays) and nvidia-settings provides no help
[01:25] <Angelus> adz21c: i have geforce 8400GS, and dw i couldn't boot into kubuntu with its default driver. i had to install them from nvidia's site :p
[01:25] <Jucato> [Relic]: ah I see. if you need stability, Fx 2
[01:25] <kudar> any wireless utilities for kubuntu 7.10?
[01:25] <mike-kubunt1> hey, i installed a custum version of fglrx via .deb's but i'd like to go back to the stock ones and i'm not sure how
[01:26] <adz21c> Angelus: yes I have the 8800 and I found it hard enough to get the CD to begin the install, i found it just hates the splash screen, even in feisty
[01:26] <mike-kubunt1> i blacklisted fglrx but it wasn't in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:26] <[Relic]> Jucato: thanks  :)
[01:26] <mike-kubunt1> it was somewhere else with a blacklist variable like "BLACKLIST="fglrx""
[01:27] <kudar> ok... well this is helpful
[01:27] <Jucato> Toma-: it's like this, everytime something uses APT or dpkg, the APT database is locked so that nothing else could use it. When something abruptly stops it, it also locks the database in order not to leave the system in an inconsistent state (it also doesn't continue the installation of the package that was abruptly interrupted).
[01:27] <adz21c> NickPresta: I always found the nvidia-settings annoying as hell. Just out of curiosity, did you ever get a rendering issue with twinview where one monitor would render slower than the other? like u could see videos rendering?
[01:27] <kudar> pm me if you can help me connect to wireless with security
[01:27] <NickPresta> adz21c, no, the setup worked quite flawlessly, which is why I'm so disappointed that it isn't working now :)
[01:28] <Toma-> Jucato➔ yes i know all that, but whats triggering adept to crash? i got that error and i think think adept even crashed
[01:28] <Jucato> ah well that's another matter :)
[01:28] <Toma-> :D
[01:28] <adz21c> NickPresta: ok, cos I did, was annoying, I ended up falling back to Xinerama (which supposively is slower but seems smoother to me) but, no compiz now :(
[01:29] <donsdw> After upgrading from Feisty, I do not know where my old Kubuntu files are.  What is the command that shows all the partitions?
[01:30] <lido76-06> hello is there anybody for a good conversation
[01:30] <Jucato> !offtopic | lido76-06
[01:30] <ubotu> lido76-06: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:30] <Jucato> donsdw: which kubuntu files are you looking for exactly?
[01:31] <lido76-06> and what happens next?
[01:31] <donsdw> Jucato: all of them.  Right now all the directories are empty.
[01:31] <mike-kubunt1> fglrx wont detect my card
[01:31] <mike-kubunt1> it says its using mesa
[01:31] <Jucato> donsdw: all? but you were able to boot into Kubuntu?
[01:31] <Toma-> can you move the navigation bar into the toolbar in dolphin?
[01:31] <donsdw> I may have lost them, but I don't think so.
[01:31] <Jucato> Toma-: which navigation bar?
[01:32] <Toma-> Jucato➔ the one that has "/home/toma" and such in it
[01:32] <Jucato> in what app I mean?
[01:32] <Toma-> dolphin
[01:32] <Toma-> (file manager)
[01:32] <donsdw> Yes I can boot. I just do not have anything in my home directory except Desktop, which is empty.
[01:33] <Jucato> donsdw: you just upgraded from feisty or is a fresh install? and do you have your /home on another partition?
[01:33] <donsdw> I misspoke when I said *all* directories.
[01:33] <NickPresta> For some reason, my "windows" key has been unmapped. It does nothing. Any idea how to fix that?
[01:33] <rc-1> anyone know where ktorrent stores the torrent files?
[01:33] <donsdw> I meant all my old files.
[01:33] <donsdw> Upgraded.
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> NickPresta: with xev right ?
[01:34] <Jucato> Toma-: Ctrl+L switches from the breadcrumb toolbar to the editable location bar
[01:34] <mike-kubunt1> how do you force apt to install somthing thats already there
[01:34] <mike-kubunt1> i want to force it to reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:34] <Jucato> donsdw: hm.. that would be weird...
[01:34] <donsdw> I think (hope) my old /home is in a partition which I cannot see.
[01:35] <donsdw> Oh no.  I hoped that was normal.
[01:35] <adz21c> mike-kubunt1: apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:35] <Jucato> donsdw: so /home is on a different partition?
[01:35] <donsdw> I hope so, Jucato.
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> wowsers - plugged in a new printer.. and a dialog poped up and installed it. :) kooka also saw my scannre right off..
[01:35] <NickPresta> sorry, h3sp4wn, X decides to crash at random intervals since the upgrade =(
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> Its getting where linxu works better then windows. :)
[01:35] <Jucato> donsdw: perhaps it's not mounted anymore. you can check with "mount" command to see if it's mounted.
[01:36] <donsdw> But I think I have to mount the correct one, but my linux is very limited.
[01:36] <Jucato> donsdw: you hope so?err... you should know of /home is on another partition since you're the one who set it up when you first installed...
[01:36] <mike-kubunt1> adz21c: it says it is not possible since it cannot be downloaded
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> NickPresta: was you using xev to see if its detected >?
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> "Your Linux-Fu is Weak Grasshopper..." :)
[01:36] <adz21c> mike-kubunt1: you may need to enable the appropriate repo
[01:37] <donsdw> I tried mount.  I will take a look.  Thanks, Jucato.
[01:37] <lido76-14> Helllooooooo
[01:37] <lido76-03> hi, little girl
[01:38] <donsdw> Jucato, when I set up /home, I did under Feisty.  Now with the new one, /home is empty.
[01:38] <iss_student>    I was so impressed with beryl before and I upgraded to Kubuntu and now I can't get the desktop cube to wrk at ll
[01:38] <Jucato> donsdw: when you set it up in feisty, was it on another partition?
[01:38] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[01:38] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:39] <seriekrock> anyone knows why it feels like the internet connection is faster in linux than in windows
[01:39] <seriekrock> ?
[01:39]  * Dr_willis_ really dosent see the point of the cube. :)
[01:39] <Dr_willis_> seriekrock,  the whole system is faster. :)
[01:39] <Jucato> donsdw: because simply upgrading to gutsy will not modify that. unless you re-installed
[01:39] <donsdw> Will the mount command show unmounted partitions?  If not, what is the command that does?
[01:39] <dystopianray> seriekrock: becuase you are subconciously eager to find ways that linux is better than windows?
[01:39] <Jucato> donsdw: nope it doesn't show those
[01:39] <seriekrock> Dr_willis_: yeah :)
[01:40] <seriekrock> dystopianray: lol
[01:40] <donsdw> Thanks for your feedback, Jucato.
[01:41] <donsdw> Does anyone know the command that shows unmounted partitions?
[01:42] <andr3x> Hi
[01:42] <lido76-03> lu
[01:42] <seriekrock> hi
[01:42] <lido76-14> lu
[01:42] <dystopianray> donsdw: sudo fdisk -l ?
[01:43] <Lars_G> Short question, what's the kernel side package equivalent to the nvidia-glx-new xorg side package?
[01:44] <Lars_G> That is, which deb has the restricted module for the 100 glx driver
[01:44] <Jucato> linux-restricted-modules-
[01:45] <Lars_G> Jucato: that has a version it seems compatible with nvidia-glx not nvidia-glx-new
[01:45] <Jucato> Lars_G: you can install linux-restricted-modules-generic so that you'll always have the one for your kernel, even when the kernel updates
[01:45] <Jucato> it's for all
[01:45] <Jucato> (it should be)
[01:45] <Lars_G> Hmmm ok I'll try reinstalling those
[01:46] <secleinteer> does anyone know why kubuntu gutsy is asking me if i want to upgrade to gutsy?
[01:46] <Toma-> kcheckgmail is meant to habe an icon in the systray right?
[01:46] <Jucato> secleinteer: yeah. kinda funny, but harmless
[01:46] <secleinteer> Jucato: will it go away if i let it 'upgrade'?
[01:46] <Jucato> it won't do anything
[01:46] <secleinteer> alright
[01:47] <seriekrock> secleinteer: why shouldnt you upgrade?
[01:47] <Mexflubber> hi .. how do I install X-chat ?
[01:47] <root_> ok... just installed 7.10. wireless is slow as crap
[01:47] <donsdw> dystopianray: Yes! and cat /proc/partitions.  Thanks!
[01:47] <secleinteer> seriekrock: read what i said again - already have gutsy, but it's asking me to upgrade to gutsy
[01:47] <root_> any wireless utils on kubuntu?
[01:47] <seriekrock> secleinteer: lol ok
[01:48] <Mexflubber> hi .. how do I install X-chat ?
[01:48] <secleinteer> Mexflubber: sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:48] <secleinteer> or search for it in adept
[01:48] <Jucato> Mexflubber: in Add/Remove Programs, look for it
[01:48] <Jucato> xchat or x-chat
[01:49] <Delphinus> whats the secret to getting compiz going in kubuntu gutsy please?
[01:49] <Jucato> !compiz | Delphinus
[01:49] <ubotu> Delphinus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:49] <Delphinus> thanks Jucato
[01:50] <mcrandello> Hi trying to mount my / from the livecd and getting hal-storage-fised-mount refused uid 999. Even after running dolphin using kdesu. Any suggestions?
[01:50] <Mexflubber> Jucato ... where is Add/Remove Programs in kubuntu ?
[01:50] <Jucato> Mexflubber: K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs
[01:51] <Lars_G> Jucato: just so you know I reinstalled restricted modules, now I modprobe nvidia and nvidia-glx can't initialize the module (no version error like before) but nvidia-glx-new works.. ah well.
[01:51] <Lars_G> See you from irssi again, but in Xorg
[01:52] <wilson> does anyone know how to fix this :    Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:52] <Mexflubber> Jucato ... tx
[01:52] <wilson> i get that when i do apt-get update
[01:52] <PasNox> evening
[01:53] <verboy> Hello i am a newbi in linux world
[01:53] <PasNox> i'm running gusty rc and want to upgrade to official gusty, but upgrade tool tell there is no upgrade available for my computer, how i can do ?
[01:53] <verboy> i have a problem in installation of Kubuntu
[01:53] <verboy> Can anyone help me
[01:53] <verboy> ?
[01:54] <PasNox> witch problem ?
[01:54] <seriekrock> !anybody
[01:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:54] <PasNox> !anybody
[01:54] <seriekrock> !anybody @ verboy
[01:54] <PasNox> !anybody @ pasnox
[01:54] <root_> problem: wireless is very slow
[01:54] <verboy> !anybody
[01:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:55] <PasNox> !anybody @ verboy
[01:55] <verboy> !anybody @ verboy
[01:55] <PasNox> hm don't working ;)
[01:55] <mcrandello> or- for some reason after installing I reboot and get console instead of X. I'd probably be able to fix it but the console font is stupid-big and I can only see part of the "screen"
[01:55] <PasNox> verboy: !anybody
[01:55] <wilson> ubotu: er, ok ill try a different mirror, thanks
[01:56] <verboy> !anybody
[01:56] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:56] <Jucato> !thanks | wilson
[01:56] <ubotu> wilson: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:56] <wilson> oh, it's a retarded bot some retard made talk
[01:56] <PasNox> verboy: how u do ?
[01:56] <verboy> !anybody fine
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anybody fine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <verboy> fine
[01:56] <PasNox> !anybody verboy
[01:56] <Jucato> PasNox: if you were on gutsy rc and just upgraded daily, you'd be in final
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anybody verboy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <verboy> when i boot from cd and i want to choose intallation
[01:57] <PasNox> Jucato: nop, there is no french translation available for kde :|
[01:57] <verboy> it is loading kernel and reboot
[01:57] <PasNox> so it s not up to date, and upgrade tool tell there is no update :|
[01:57] <Dr_willis_> !update
[01:57] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:58] <Jucato> PasNox: can you ask in #kubuntu-fr if they're having the same problems?
[01:58] <Dr_willis_> !upgrade
[01:58] <hydrogen> !downgrade
[01:58] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[01:58] <hydrogen> !sidegrade
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sidegrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <hydrogen> !roadgrade
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roadgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <Jucato> PasNox: but as long as you updated daily since RC, your system is in final already
[01:58] <Jucato> !botabuse | hydrogen
[01:58] <ubotu> hydrogen: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:58] <Jucato> :P
[01:58] <verboy> !anybody When I install Kubuntu it reboot
[01:58] <hydrogen> !don'tbotspammebecauseitskindofrudeinmynotsohumbleopinion | Jucato
[01:58] <PasNox> i have no compiz fusion actiavate, no french translation, i think i'm not up to date, but i always update when thre is updaet available :|
[01:59] <hydrogen> :\
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> verboy,  how.. vague. :)  what installer/cd are you using? any other related error messages?
[01:59] <Jucato> PasNox: there is no compiz-fusion installed by default for kubuntu
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[01:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:59] <mcrandello> anyone?
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> The NEW FAQ #1  - wheres my compiz!
[01:59] <Jucato> PasNox: as for french translations, you'd have to ask in #kubuntu-fr
[01:59] <verboy> no nothing I select intallation it is loading and black screen and reboot
[01:59] <hydrogen> The new answer... compiz is overrated.
[01:59] <verboy> the new kubuntu 710
[02:00] <Jucato> hydrogen: that's the old answer :)
[02:00] <PasNox> what mean overrated ?
[02:00] <hydrogen> Jucato: oh, the same answer than
[02:00] <Jucato> :D
[02:00] <intelikey> that was my answer 2 years ago.
[02:00] <mike-kubunt1> hey are there any repos with an fglrx drive above version 8.40?
[02:00] <verboy> What can I do?
[02:00] <root_> why nobody want to help me with wireless?
[02:00] <secleinteer> yeah, compiz is overrated
[02:00] <hydrogen> intelikey: regretably you have a lot of wrong answers :/
[02:00] <rc-1> if i reinstall kubuntu, and backup my home directory, should ktorrent torrents still work?
[02:01] <Jucato> !wireless | root_
[02:01] <ubotu> root_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:01] <secleinteer> used to have it, well beryl, but it just got annoying
[02:01] <NightBird> mike-kubunt1: fglrx isn't meant for most ati cards
[02:01] <intelikey> hydrogen so you say.
[02:01] <NightBird> er...8.41
[02:01] <hydrogen> intelikey: well, yea
[02:01] <verboy> !help
[02:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:01] <hydrogen> intelikey: I thought that much was obvious :)
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> It's only overrated for people that think it's really anything more than "Ooh, shiny"
[02:01] <NightBird> fglrx 8.41 isn't meant for most ati cards
[02:01] <Ange|us> is it posible to install a 32bit browser and a 32bit mplayer on kubuntu guys ??
[02:01] <hydrogen> Dragnslcr: or those who think "ooh, shiny" is overrated
[02:01] <secleinteer> Dragnslcr: it's exactly because it's nothing more than 'ooh, shiny' that it's overrated
[02:01] <Jucato> Ange|us: of course. but are you using 64-bit?
[02:01] <verboy> can anyone help me?
[02:01] <mike-kubunt1> NightBird: it's meant for mine, 200x express, only thing with close to 3d support for it
[02:02] <Jucato> !patience | verboy
[02:02] <ubotu> verboy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:02] <RipRapRob> Hi all
[02:02] <Ange|us> yes Jucato im using 64bit
[02:02] <verboy> ok sorry ubotu
[02:02] <secleinteer> ubotu's a bot :P
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s a bot :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <NightBird> mike-kubunt1: actually, 200 express cards aren't supported in the 8.41 driver.  8.42 will see support added back in(as well as aiglx support)
[02:02] <Jucato> !64bit | Ange|us
[02:02] <ubotu> Ange|us: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[02:02] <Jucato> !flash64
[02:02] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:02] <secleinteer> verboy: try the forums if nobody here can help
[02:02] <Jucato> that too
[02:02] <intelikey> verboy have you tried booting with the frame buffering disabled ?
[02:03] <verboy> how intelikey?
[02:03] <intelikey> i.e.  remove "splash" from the kernel line,
[02:03] <Ange|us> thanks Jucato
[02:03] <NightBird> mike-kubunt1: if you want 8.41(though you should wait for 8.42, it should be out in a few days...), you will have to go to the ati driver, locate and install it yourself
[02:03] <mike-kubunt1> NightBird: what repos would i add so i get the 8.42 driver as soon as possible though, i'm not failiar with kubuntus way of handling testing packages
[02:04] <RipRapRob> Test
[02:04]  * intelikey corrects.  that doesn't disable fb  but i "should" cause it to "hot be active"
[02:04] <mike-kubunt1> NightBird: thanks
[02:04] <NightBird> mike-kubunt1: my guess is 8.42 will be added pretty quickly to the repos
[02:04] <intelikey> not
[02:04] <RipRapRob> Test
[02:04] <mcrandello> intelikey, would that help my problem also?
[02:05] <intelikey> mcrandello what is your problem ?
[02:05] <mcrandello> stupidly huge fonts in the consoles that wind up cutting off, so the command prompt is offscreen
[02:05] <verboy> intelikey it says buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[02:05] <RipRapRob> Hi al - I'm trying to install KDE 4.0 under Kubuntu 7.10. Anyone know a guide for doing this? I've tried by using the Adept installer, but I can't seem to invoke KDE 4.0.
[02:05] <intelikey> mcrandello very likely then.
[02:05] <NightBird> !kde4 | RipRapRob
[02:06] <ubotu> RipRapRob: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[02:06] <hydrogen> RipRapRob: It's not worth the effort at this point
[02:06] <Ange|us> jucato, what about mplayer 32bit ?
[02:06] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, there is a link to the kde4 beta3 packages in the gusty release page at kubuntu.org
[02:06] <Jucato> Ange|us: that I don't know
[02:06] <mcrandello> intelikey, I'll try that, thanks
[02:06] <Ange|us> Jucato: to be able to use win32 codecs
[02:06] <adz21c> Ange|us: what do you need 32bit player for?
[02:06] <intelikey> verboy ok that's a  elterito problem   i don't have an answer for that yet.   and it seems to be a recurring problem or i talked to you yesterday  one.
[02:07] <Ange|us> adz21c: for win32 codecs
[02:07] <adz21c> Ange|us: w64 are available
[02:07] <Ange|us> O_o
[02:07] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: Ok, I'll look for that. Thanks!
[02:07] <Ange|us> win64 codecs?
[02:07] <Ange|us> O_o
[02:07] <adz21c> yup
[02:07] <Ange|us> never heard of them
[02:07] <adz21c> www.medibuntu.org
[02:07] <_luke_> I'm trying to do an upgrade from Fiesty to Gutsy.... but in the middle of the upgrade it complaines that the debconf install seg-faulted, then that it couldn't install X11... and now its stuck on libdbus-1-dev
[02:07] <intelikey> mcrandello you can use a vga=  on the kernel line   set to   vga=0x0f04    should be standard text mode.
[02:07] <adz21c> since vista came out microsoft released a x64 media player so the libs became available
[02:07] <adz21c> i think
[02:08] <adz21c> regardless they are there
[02:08] <feierfox> how to shutdown my system with command-line?
[02:08] <Lars_G> Sigh ok I give up. I'll need to rebuild my xorg.conf, anybody willing to give me a hand?
[02:08] <Ange|us> wrong adz21c , windows 64bit uses 32bit browser and player
[02:08] <feierfox> (time-delay)
[02:08] <Ange|us> adz21c: i can't find no   win64 codecs in adept
[02:08] <_luke_> feierfox: sudo halt
[02:08] <Lars_G> feierfox: sudo shutdown -h now
[02:09] <adz21c> well, w64 codecs are there and i use wmv9 in x64 kaffeine fine
[02:09] <Jucato> !xconfig | Lars_G
[02:09] <ubotu> Lars_G: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[02:09] <adz21c> Ange|us: www.medibuntu.org
[02:09] <Ange|us> whats the package adz21c
[02:09] <Jucato> Lars_G: to rebuild it
[02:09] <Ange|us> whats the package name adz21c ? *
[02:09] <Lars_G> this is my current. dirty config. It works but for two details. http://200.62.10.54:8008/xorg.conf
[02:09] <adz21c> Ange|us: "w64codecs"
[02:09] <_luke_> anyone got any ideas what I should do now? will the apt-get dist-upgrade finish the upgrade?
[02:09] <Lars_G> Jucato: I have, eh... peculiar needs.
[02:09] <intelikey> mcrandello  i can't resite all the vga= code of the top of my head but    0x0f0<345>  are good text modes and  771 779 791 793 799  are good graphic modes  you can play around with them...
[02:09] <Jucato> Lars_G: well you can always manually do it :)
[02:09] <dystopianray> there are no win64 codecs
[02:10] <Lars_G> Jucato: I have a dual monitor, which I want to handle as separate screens with xinerama.
[02:10] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: I've actually tried doing like stated on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php, but how do I start KDE 4 when I'm done?
[02:10] <Jucato> ah ok :)
[02:10] <Lars_G> Jucato: I did, and it's not causing a few problems
[02:10] <adz21c> then its some sort of workaround, but its there and they work
[02:10]  * Jucato hands off dual monitors...
[02:10] <Ange|us> adz21c: did you add some other repos ? i can't find them here
[02:10] <feierfox> and with time-delay Lars_G ?
[02:10] <Lars_G> Jucato: it "used to work before"
[02:10] <adz21c> Ange|us: www.medibuntu.org
[02:10] <wilson> what are the w32 dcodecs ? are they for wine or something ? or are they wmv support or something ?
[02:11] <Lars_G> feierfox: time delay meaning... you want to shut down in 10 mintues? drop the "now", check man shutdown, you can specify a wait time.
[02:11] <adz21c> Ange|us: thats a repo that has various packages that are "iffy"
[02:11] <adz21c> wmv support
[02:11] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, pay attention to that lass bulleted instruction
[02:11] <Lars_G> wilson: they're video codecs from windows to be used by linux video libraries and players
[02:11] <adz21c> Ange|us: when i say iffy i mean ubuntu can't ship them due to license
[02:11] <Lars_G> in short, wmv support, quicktime support and a few other propietary closed codecs
[02:11] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, after you've done that there should be an "options" or "settings" menu at the login screen
[02:11] <Lars_G> Jucato: Any place but this where you'd suggest I get the needed nvidia help?
[02:12] <wilson> sorry, isn't that included in kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:12] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, you should see an option for kde4 in there
[02:12] <Jucato> Lars_G: no clue... it usually "just works" for me
[02:12] <Lars_G> Jucato: ok
[02:12] <Jucato> wilson: what is?
[02:12] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: I can't find that option :(
[02:12] <feierfox> want to shutdown my system in one hour, what is the command-line, i have to use
[02:12] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: I can only find KDE
[02:13] <wilson> ahh, i see it doesn't, only dvd playback
[02:13] <Jucato> wilson: no, w32codecs aren't included in restricted-extras
[02:13] <intelikey> i think i set something incorrectly.  internet is exscreemly slow on the third level lan
[02:13] <Jucato> because of legal restrictions
[02:13] <dystopianray> ffmpeg already has wmv support
[02:13] <adz21c> w32/64codecs wont be as u need a legit copy of windows to use them
[02:13] <dystopianray> no need for w32codecs just for wmv
[02:13] <adz21c> hence ubuntu doiesn't ship it
[02:13] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, you copied /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop?
[02:13] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: yes
[02:13] <adz21c> dystopianray: up to version 8 i think so yes, but not 9 i don't think so
[02:14] <dystopianray> adz21c: all wmv versions are supported: wmv1, wmv2, wmv3 and vc-1
[02:14] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, after you do that you have to edit the kde4.desktop with your fav. text editor and change the "name" field. you'll see it in there
[02:14] <nexano> anyone else in here having trouble with GeForce 7800 drivers? i cant seem to be able to use any other then Vesa :/
[02:15] <adz21c> dystopianray: even wmv9? as I am sure it doesn't support that
[02:15] <NickPresta> Can anyone tell me and help me figure out why whenever I start the computer/login, my nvidia driver is disabled despite it being installed and in my xorg.conf?
[02:15] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: I did that. I'll have to tripple check. Thanks!
[02:15] <dystopianray> adz21c: there is no 'wmv9' you're likely thinking of wmv3 and yes it does support that
[02:15] <dystopianray> adz21c: it also supports vc-1 which is the wmv3 superset used in HD-DVD and blu-ray
[02:15] <wilson> the 'rip video dvd' option doesn't work for me in k3b, it just opens the video_ts directroy. Is this normal behaviour in kubuntu ? i'm pretty sure i installed all the needed packages
[02:16] <Lars_G> Btw I had to finish the upgrade by hand
[02:16] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, if you've gone over the entries and made sure it's all correct then instead of logging out try using <ctrl><alt><bkspc> to kill the xserver. That will force kdm to reload its settings
[02:16] <intelikey> NickPresta kernel version/module mismatch ?
[02:16] <adz21c> dystopianray: fair enough
[02:16] <wilson> i think they should just remove that option from k3b, i played around with it a few weeks ago , compiling from source, and it didn't give the proper commands to transcode anyway
[02:16] <Lars_G> and I notice my KDE theme has some icons or graphics missing
[02:16] <Lars_G> like for example during startup the spinner will show some icons, and others will show as a generic "page"
[02:16] <NickPresta> intelikey, I don't think so. I've reinstalled the driver three times. Twice, I used the restricted-manager and once I did a manual install. No dice either way
[02:17] <intelikey> NickPresta hmmm.  is the /etc/X11/xorg.conf being changed on ya /
[02:17] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: Everything looks OK. I've even tried restarting. I'll try the CTRL ALT BACKSPACE. Thanks again for your patience!
[02:17] <wilson> there's mencoder, ffmeg, dvd95 , k9copy
[02:17] <BluesKaj> looking for ppl who have google earth running on Gutsy 64 using ATI
[02:17] <NickPresta> intelikey, nope. "nvidia" is still listed...
[02:18] <Lars_G> Any tips for that please?
[02:18] <Lars_G> BluesKaj: do ATI finally provide 64bit linux drivers?
[02:18] <intelikey> NickPresta one more "stab in the dark" here.   don't have a oops copy of xorg.conf in your /root/  do you ?
[02:18] <NightBird> Lars_G: they have for awhile now
[02:18] <root_> takes forever to refreh network settings for wireless... and wireless is slow
[02:18] <NickPresta> intelikey, nope. /root/ is empty
[02:19] <Lars_G> NightBird: cool. I had stopped tracking ati
[02:19] <Lars_G> NightBird: And now, I have troubles with my beloved nvidia :P
[02:19] <intelikey> well that pretty much spent my 'least possable info' trubble shooting.   check the logs.
[02:20] <scrottles> hi
[02:20] <scrottles> how do i un-ignore a repo?  cant seem to find it in a man page.
[02:20] <scrottles> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
[02:21] <intelikey> scrottles remove the comment char   (#)  from before it.
[02:21] <intelikey> oh
[02:21] <NickPresta> intelikey, dmesg and syslog don't show anything related to nvidia or X in general...
[02:22] <Lars_G> NickPresta: those are in /var/log/Xorg.x.log
[02:22] <Lars_G> x is a number
[02:22] <Lars_G> do a ls -l and the log with today's date is the right one
[02:23] <scrottles> oh in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <scrottles> thanx pal
[02:23] <Lars_G> scrottles: after you uncomment it, remember to do an sudo apt-get update
[02:23] <scrottles> right
[02:24] <rickey> who here has finished there upgrade to gusty , i need to know if there old personal files from 7.o4 was broth over to 7.10 or did they lose them?
[02:24] <scrottles> !nvidia
[02:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:24] <mcrandello> rickey, is your /home on it's own partition?
[02:25] <rickey> no i dont think so
[02:25] <NickPresta> Lars_G, thanks. I checked the log and everything seems to have worked. Twinview was enabled, the metamodes were set properly, etc...
[02:26] <mcrandello> rickey, if you do an an upgrade through apt it shouldn't touch them. If you decide to reinstall from CD I would back up everything first.
[02:26] <mcrandello> rickey, but then I would back up everything anyway, because I'm paranoid ;^)
[02:26] <Lars_G> NickPresta: What's your problem?
[02:26] <NickPresta> Lars_G, whenever I start the computer/login, my nvidia driver is disabled despite it being installed and in my xorg.conf. I run nvidia-settings and it tells me that I'm not using the nvidia driver.
[02:26] <rickey> i do have sommetime to put somestuff on a cd ,before the  full upgrade  takes place
[02:27] <rickey> ok i did go though apt
[02:27] <Lars_G> NickPresta: I think it's not disabled. you're using nvidia-glx-new right?
[02:28] <rickey> thanks
[02:28] <NickPresta> Lars_G, yep, for my 7900 GS
[02:28] <Lars_G> NickPresta: I get the same with nvidia-settings and my nvidia is working well except for one error I'm having. From what I saw from aptitude when installing it seems the nvidia-settings up there works with nvidia-glx but not nvidia-glx-new
[02:29] <RipRapRob> Can't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and check 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option.
[02:29] <Lars_G> NickPresta: so it's nvidia-settings failing to recognize the driver. if you open a shell and run glxinfo it should show direct rendering on.
[02:29] <zolar1> how do you obtain a mac address in linux
[02:29] <Lars_G> NickPresta: I will try in a while, after I fix my nvidia error, to download only the lattest nvidia-settings from the nvidia page and test that
[02:29] <mcrandello> zolar1, ifconfig
[02:29] <Lars_G> zolar1: ifconfig shows it
[02:30] <zolar1> thanks
[02:30] <mcrandello> zolar1 it's called the HWaddr though
[02:30] <mcrandello> at least that's what ifconfig calls it :)
[02:30] <Lars_G> NightBird: oh... odd I just rand glxinfo and I get direct rendering no... but it also shows the nvidia glx lines... this is odd.
[02:30] <lee986321> ok ya I hae my either net up and running
[02:30] <NickPresta> sorry Lars_G. X crashed... Anyways, doing a `glxinfo | grep direct` shows direct rending NO
[02:31] <lee986321> its a bit unorthodox though
[02:31] <NightBird> Lars_G: can't help with nvidia difilties
[02:31] <NightBird> or with spelling either apparently
[02:31] <lee986321> lol
[02:32] <lee986321> now I ama problby the worst typest of all there lol
[02:32] <lee986321> ok well now to setting up those drivers
[02:32] <intelikey> lee986321 well actually....
[02:32] <NickPresta> sigh. Is there a recommended way to downgrade? :P
[02:32] <Lars_G> NightBird: sorry wrong autocompletion
[02:32] <Lars_G> NickPresta: oh... odd I just rand glxinfo and I get direct rendering no... but it also shows the nvidia glx lines... this is odd.
[02:33] <m00foo> gna i just finished the upgrade f->g but the nvidia module is gone.. where is it?!
[02:33] <Lars_G> NickPresta: And. I still see GLX loading correctly in Xorg.log O.o something is very very odd here
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> seems there is a chain of events here...
[02:33] <lee986321> eh I lost my monitirs manual adjust mensts this stinks
[02:34] <Lars_G> NickPresta: I might even try to remove ubuntu's nvidia module (rm by hand) and glx (dpkg -r) and use nvidia's installer. to see what happens.
[02:34] <Lars_G> bbl
[02:34] <lee986321> ok setting up a paste bin
[02:34] <wesley> how do i best install compiz fusion in 7.10
[02:34] <lee986321> !pastebin
[02:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:34] <lee986321> ok go that running
[02:35] <lee986321> hm lsets see updates ah that its
[02:35]  * lee986321 is talking to himself dont pay it any mnd
[02:36] <scrottles> i edited /etc/apt/sources.list and i still get  lines beginning with Ign upon apt-get update
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> !compiz | wesley
[02:36] <ubotu> wesley: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[02:36] <scrottles> all that is commented is documentation and cdrom
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> scrottles: what is it ignoring?
[02:39] <lee986321> ok
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> lee986321: no..its not.
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:39]  * lee986321 Belches
[02:39] <seriekrock> i thought gutsy had compiz fusion installed as standard?
[02:40] <lee986321> your right that is better ahh ty
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> seriekrock: not kubuntu
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> =D
[02:40] <RipRapRob> Can't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and checked 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option. Any suggestions?
[02:40] <intelikey> scrottles yeah i tried to correct that post eariler.  it's not your sources.list per'se  it's a network issue.  either the destination or the address is kicking back a "not applicable" and apt is thus ignoring that line.   i.e. could be a server down.  and could be a bad address in the apt line   the security sight is ttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[02:40] <scrottles> http://rafb.net/p/ObHZpU74.html
[02:40] <lee986321> ok any who I am getting down to some seriouse business now..who wants to help me withthe ati codion to make sure all goes well
[02:40] <lee986321> any takers?
[02:40] <scrottles> oh ok.
[02:40] <seriekrock> nosrednaekim:  so i have to do as on that link? i cant install it with adept?
[02:41] <scrottles> i was just looking for  libdvdcss and w32codecs but i suppose they're googleable
[02:41] <scrottles> is there a difference between libdvdcss and libdvdcss2 ?
[02:41] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:41] <scrottles> which is prefered ?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> seriekrock: yeah.. you can install it from adept, get:  compiz-kde emerald and compiz-plugins-extra
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> 2
[02:41] <scrottles> i suppose 2
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> I think
[02:41] <BluesKaj> updated
[02:43] <intelikey> !libdvdcss2
[02:43] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: !! upgraded to gutsy yet?
[02:44] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i don't expect i'll ever see gutsy
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: you a LTS guy?
[02:44] <scrottles> google takes me to sites to upgrade the apt.sources file for Edgy, and Dapper, im running fiesty.
[02:44] <intelikey> never saw edgy or fiesty
[02:44] <noam_> er
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> scrottles: just DL the deb
[02:44] <intelikey> nosrednaekim yep
[02:45] <lee986321> eh ok I need the url adress for
[02:45] <noam_> the kdelibs4-dev is reported broken in adept. i have installed the kdelibs4 update that is fixes the kopete msn crash.
[02:45] <noam_> what should i do?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> <----64bit gutsy restricted ATI driver enabled , wonder if google earth will run ...got fgl_glxgears working
[02:46] <intelikey> scrottles the differance in the sources.list is the code-name other than that they are all the same.
[02:46] <scrottles> ok i'll just swap code names.
[02:46] <[Relic]> anyone using flickr.com and firefox?  I can't figure out what I need to do to log in?  I can log in through konquer but not firefox
[02:46] <intelikey> scrottles also of note.  64bit may not have that package...  idk.
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: the 8.41 one?
[02:47] <scrottles> well im using a 32bit celleron
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> noam_: hmmmm is everything working on your system?
[02:47] <intelikey> then we may assume that that wont apply
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> scrottles: no..don't saw code names...
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> *swap
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> scrottles: just download the raw deb, no repository required
[02:47] <intelikey> nosrednaekim careful.
[02:48] <noam_> nosrednaekim, as far as i can see yes
[02:48] <noam_> urgh
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: of what?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: no the one that came with the restricted package , whatever it may be ...havent checked yet
[02:48]  * nosrednaekim looks around for the MPAA
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ah ok... the 8.37.
[02:48] <intelikey> i agree that the file is a simple dl  but dont mess up his train of thought in the middle of hacking his sources.list
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:49] <noam_> nosrednaekim, it's just because kdelibs4-dev requires kdelibs4 version something-something-ubuntu2, and i have ubuntu3
[02:49] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim:  you running 64 bit too?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> noam_: ah... why are you installing the -dev?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah..
[02:50] <lee986321> grr i need the page that sets up the ati drivers he one i saved is missing some things
[02:50] <noam_> i just have it installed, i guess
[02:50] <BluesKaj> google earth ?
[02:50] <thomas_> I get crackling sound when I play a game that uses openal/alsa... I've tried artsd (no sound), and oss (no sound). What's the deal?
[02:50] <noam_> i haven't installed it
[02:50] <intelikey> and for the record nosrednaekim and scrottles there are links on that page that take you to a dirrect download
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> noam_: ah... well dont worry about it, it should be all fixed soon when Riddel pushes the updates
[02:51] <noam_> i see
[02:52] <lee986321> Method 2: Install the 8.41.7 Driver Manually<<<<neds the lingk for this can some one assist plese
[02:52] <lee986321> eh genii are yiou still online?
[02:52] <wesley> At some packings from compiz stands break
[02:53] <Assid> hey
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> lee986321: go to the AMD/ATI site linux drivers-> select the top of the line ATI radeon HD card and you have it
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: rebooting to see how these ATI drivers work :)
[02:55] <excitatory> i'm interested in upgrading, but have a few questions: one, i have CompizFusion installed via trev1nos feisty repo.. should i purge that package and remove the repo before i upgrade?  two, should i remove XGL, including modifications to /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and the compiz startup scripts, or just let the upgrade manager take care of that?  and three, can i dist-upgrade, or should i use adept considering i have a custom sources.list??
[02:57] <thomas_> anyone else have sound issues with openal and alsa?
[02:57] <zolar1> how stable is kubuntu 7.10 ?
[02:58] <Assid> ati doesnt really need anything extra
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> yalp...ATI drivers work great
[02:58] <Assid> im using it
[02:59] <max_> right now i installed kubuntu 7.10, up to now it's running
[02:59] <Assid> you dont need to modify squat
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> no suspend... but with a 45 second boot to KDE, I can deal with that :)
[02:59] <Assid> just run compiz --replace once
[02:59] <Assid> btw... usplash is still broken
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> yeah. pretty simple
[03:00] <lee986321> nosrednaekim I have the drivers
[03:00] <lee986321> Ooooohh
[03:01] <m00foo> has http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb made it to the repository or do i need to install it on a fresh f->g system?
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> m00foo: no need to install it manually
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> *you
[03:01] <m00foo> ok
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> *you need to install it manually
[03:01] <lee986321> this isght? http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html nosrednaekim ?
[03:02] <AmyRose> Uh, what if you want to have the kdelibs-dev package installed?
[03:02] <lee986321> I have a radeo x300
[03:02] <m00foo> i suppose the headers did not change with the bugfix ;)
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: then.... ummm... you obviously don't need MSN ;)
[03:02] <Assid> err.. how do you get the damn buddy list in pidgin to NOT shot any groups?
[03:02] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: Uh, not exactly
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> lee986321: choose the top-of-the-line ATI radeon card
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: I'm kiddin ;)
[03:03] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: I need it to compile KDE styles
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: you get pidgen
[03:03] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: Pidgin's MSN support is HORRIBLE
[03:03] <lee986321> ialso have a 64 bit machine
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: amsn then..
[03:03] <AmyRose> It doesn't even support away messages!
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> lee986321: ouch... I wouldn't try it..
[03:03] <intelikey> what are the reserved networds again ?  192.168.* 10.*  ???
[03:04] <AmyRose> intelikey: Yeah, and 172.x.y.z
[03:04] <intelikey> 174.*
[03:04] <intelikey> k
[03:04] <wesley> where do i get CompizFusionIcon for amd64
[03:04] <intelikey> is that all ?
[03:04] <AmyRose> Oh, am I wrong?
[03:04] <intelikey> AmyRose no.
[03:04] <Assid> nosrednaekim: need those drivers for ati radeon mobility 9000?
[03:04] <AmyRose> OK
[03:04] <Assid> c-cf seems working fine here
[03:04] <m00foo> intelikey: 10.*
[03:05] <intelikey> AmyRose i was guessing 174 but when i saw the 172  i have to agree.
[03:05] <m00foo> intelikey: http://www.pantz.org/networking/tcpip/privatereserved.shtml
[03:05] <Assid> hey intelikey
[03:05] <intelikey> Assid
[03:05] <AmyRose> I thought so, but I am not in IT, so I didn't know ^^;
[03:05] <Assid> AmyRose: whats wrong?
[03:05] <Assid> intelikey: ltns
[03:05] <Assid> err.. anyone know how to disable the widnwo from snapping when you move it around?
[03:06] <Assid> it snaps to the corners of the screen
[03:06] <seriekrock> kopete crashes, and i get this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41257/ , when i log on, can anyone help me?
[03:06] <m00foo> seriekrock: install  http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:06] <intelikey> Assid there 'used' to be a simple proxsemity "snap to" setting in the  desktop configuration
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> install this http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:07] <mrksbrd> has anyone attempted to make a bootable iso of a backup??, what i'm looking to do is download all updates & progs, run some sort of backup of entire image, then have it bootable and be able to launch a re-install if needed
[03:07] <seriekrock> i dont have i386 system
[03:07]  * AmyRose is trying to get KDE 4 to work...
[03:07] <seriekrock> i have 64 bit system
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> seriekrock: ouch.... ask on #kubuntu-devel
[03:08] <adz21c> seriekrock: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> ahh there you go :)
[03:08] <Assid> intelikey: trying to find
[03:08] <seriekrock> adz21c: thanks :)
[03:08] <Assid> intelikey: someone screwed up in the final release
[03:08] <adz21c> np
[03:09] <Assid> usplash is broken for me
[03:09] <scrottles> whats a friendly bit-torrent program ?
[03:09] <Assid> used to work in the daily builds and beta releases
[03:09] <Assid> scrottles: deluge
[03:09] <seriekrock> scrottles: ktorrent
[03:09] <intelikey> ah 172.16.*    glad you posted that link m00foo lest i should have an open b class un-protected.
[03:09] <scrottles> thanx fellaz
[03:10] <shadowhywind> hay all i have a bit of problem. I was in the middle of the install part of the upgrade, when KDM crashed and went back to the login screen. What should do I do to continue the install?
[03:10] <Assid> stupid pidgin
[03:10] <seriekrock> cool its fixed now :)
[03:10] <Assid> i cant remove the groups
[03:10] <mrksbrd> I noticed when running sudo apt update, said it was release candidate from 10/09.......any ideas???????/
[03:10] <Assid> i want to see a simple listing.. no groups.. and it dont work
[03:11] <m00foo> intelikey: it's actually 172.[16-31].* in case you over-read it ;-)
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: rerun the upgrade app..
[03:11] <intelikey> Assid yeah. each release has it's bugs.   one reason i don't upgrade much.  i'm not a pest control specialest
[03:11] <shadowhywind> it says that adept is locked
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[03:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:12] <intelikey> m00foo yeah,  no i just over simplified my post.
[03:13] <Ange|us> is it posible to install an ubuntu feisty repo on gutsy?
[03:13] <Assid> err.. why is it such a pain to get bluetooth+gprs working?
[03:13] <Assid> why cant we have a simple dialer that works
[03:14] <Jucato> Ange|us: 1. you shouldn't, 2. it will be a bit useless if a package of the same name but of a higher version exists in the gutsy repo
[03:14] <shadowhywind> ok after i ran that command, now go back to adept and re run the setup?
[03:14] <Ahmuck> !mp3
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <mrksbrd> Assid, KPPP doesn't work?
[03:14] <Assid> mrksbrd: not the last time i tried
[03:14] <Assid> will try again in a bit..
[03:14] <Ange|us> Jucato: its the smb4k repo from their site, because they provide newer versions then kubuntu's one
[03:14] <Ange|us> :p
[03:15] <Jucato> aaah 3rd party repo
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: yeah
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: and try not to do anything on your computer
[03:15] <Ange|us> so is it posible to install a 3rd party repo of feisty on gutsy?
[03:15] <RipRapRob> Can't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and check 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option. Any suggestions?
[03:15] <Assid> mrksbrd:  does your usplash work ?
[03:16] <shadowhywind> k, I wasn't really doing anything before either.. but i will mmake sure to close everything and turn off the screensaver
[03:16] <Ange|us> mine doesn't Assid
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> RipRapRob: did you add a new .dekstop file to /usr/share/xsessions?
[03:16] <mrksbrd> Assid, brain fart....usplash???
[03:16] <Assid> Ange|us: thought so
[03:17] <intelikey> mrksbrd the non-text startup thingy
[03:17] <Assid> mrksbrd:  the loader that shows kubuntu and progress bar
[03:17] <intelikey> usplash = eyecandy for the boot loader
[03:17] <mrksbrd> oh yes works fine
[03:18] <Assid> stupid thing dont work for me
[03:18] <Assid> tried to reinstall it .. still nothing
[03:18] <Assid> and i know it downloaded from online and not the CD version.. so it used some update
[03:18] <Ange|us> Assid: i can't find a solution neither
[03:18] <leileilol> i wonder if it's possible to get my old Interact Hammerhead FX gamepad to work in linux
[03:18] <intelikey> !usplash | Assid have you tried redoing it ?
[03:18] <ubotu> Assid have you tried redoing it ?: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:18] <mrksbrd> did u use live cd or alt?
[03:18] <leileilol> it doesn't work in win2000/xp
[03:18] <leileilol> at all
[03:18] <leileilol> works in 9x
[03:18] <RipRapRob> nosrednaekim: Yes
[03:18] <lee986321> question does this mean enable the driver or....?sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager-kde
[03:19] <Assid> mrksbrd: live
[03:19] <lee986321> cancel that
[03:19] <Ange|us> i tried both alt and live , both don't work, the monitor turns off till the kde login comes then it turns back on
[03:19] <shadowhywind> ok so that command finally finished
[03:19] <lee986321> System > Administration > Software Sources. Check "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" box. does this mean enable the driver?
[03:20] <lee986321> or is ir something different?
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> AHHH! stupid XGL and shift bkspace!
[03:20] <mrksbrd> I always use Alt cd whenever possible, some puters don't like live cd for some reason
[03:20] <draik> Where can I find information on the meaning to the various folders under "/"
[03:20] <intelikey> Ange|us that's a fbcon issue.
[03:20] <intelikey> Ange|us notebook ?
[03:20] <Assid> okay ran it.. hopefully shood work
[03:21] <Assid> Ange|us: yeah same here
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> RipRapRob: sorry, did you answer?
[03:21] <intelikey> fbcon -- kernel frame buffering support for the console
[03:21] <Assid> run "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" and reboot
[03:21] <Assid> see if it works
[03:21] <Assid> if i reboot it will take me forever to log back in
[03:21] <Assid> hehe
[03:21] <Ange|us> Assid: ok i will give it a try and tell you if it works :)
[03:21] <RipRapRob> nosrednaekim: Yes. And the answer is yes, I did :)
[03:22] <intelikey> Assid i don't really know any other way to test usplash tho
[03:22] <Assid> intelikey: dont think there is another way
[03:22] <mrksbrd>  I noticed when running sudo apt update, said it was release candidate from 10/09.......any ideas???????
[03:22] <Assid> man people in pidgin are kinda arrogant in a way
[03:23] <Ange|us> Assid: that command gave me a getopt error
[03:23] <Assid> getopt?
[03:23] <Ange|us> pidgin is ugly :p
[03:23] <Ange|us> this /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 13: getopt: not found
[03:23] <intelikey> Assid been to #perl lately ?
[03:24] <Assid> okay that just isnt good
[03:24] <mrksbrd> did they post wrong release ??????????
[03:24] <zolar1> good night all
[03:24] <Assid> intelikey: nah
[03:24] <Assid> something there i should know abt
[03:24] <Assid> open amsn.. and i get an error "the requested file has not been translated in the language yet"
[03:24] <Assid> or something like that
[03:24] <Ahmuck> are people able to play cbs's intertube videos ?
 man people in pidgin are kinda arrogant in a way <<< thus follows >>> <intelikey> Assid been to #perl lately ?
[03:25] <Assid> wtf? its not translated into english/
[03:25] <Assid> hehe
[03:25] <Assid> yeah ive seen then be arrogant too
[03:25] <intelikey> :)
[03:25] <Assid> eeks im getting a super bad display for amsn
[03:25] <coreymon> hey guys
[03:25] <Ange|us> i get that error too in amsn Assid but it doesn;t give problems so dw
[03:26] <coreymon> my upgrade messed up so now i am forced to fresh install since my system will be unusable next time i restart
[03:26] <Assid> dw?
[03:26] <Assid> Ange|us: the fonts are horrible
[03:26] <mcrandello> gah now getting inode inconsistency errors? #(*$ it reinstall time
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> coreymon: go gutsy!
[03:26] <coreymon> so, what i want to do is split my home directory off into a seperate partition so that i dont have to delete in on fresh install
[03:26] <coreymon> how do i go about doing that
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> coreymon: probably best done from a liveCD
[03:27] <coreymon> should i come back when im running from a gutsy live?
[03:27] <mcrandello> coreymon remember to back up everything first
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> delete unneccesary files, boot into livecd, shrink partition, create new partition
[03:27] <intelikey> coreymon make a place for it, then copy the contents over and go.
[03:27] <mcrandello> can't be said enough
[03:27] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41258/ what did i do wrong?
[03:27] <Ange|us> lol Assid , mine are fine
[03:27] <coreymon> mcrandello: back everything up? my system is corrupted, if i back things up it will just back up corrupted stuff
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> coreymon: he means your data
[03:27] <coreymon> mcrandello: all i want is my home dir
[03:27] <sub[t]rnl> use an alternate cd, and upgrade
[03:28] <mcrandello> coreymon well anything off of /home/coreymon that you want to keep ;^)
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> +1 sub[t]rnl
[03:28] <Assid> Ange|us: absolutely horrible
[03:28] <intelikey> coreymon i think he means  make backups of all important data.
[03:28] <Assid> what did you do to make it look good
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> bye all! have a nice day/night
[03:28] <sub[t]rnl> take care nosrednaekim
[03:28] <intelikey> nosrednaekim you too.
[03:28] <secleinteer> hi, can someone tell me how to get the kmenu in kde 4 beta 3 on gutsy?
[03:28] <mcrandello> I always go into HDD operations with the assumption that I'm going to pooch it up and lose everything, and I'm rarely dissapointed.
[03:29] <coreymon> i would like to backup my entire system, but wouldnt that just backup the corrupt parts too?
[03:29] <leileilol> so no way of getting the interact hammerhead fx gamepad to work?
[03:29] <Ange|us> nothing Assid
[03:29] <Ange|us> lol
[03:29] <draik> Where can I find information on the meaning to the various folders under "/" ?
[03:29] <leileilol> it connects to the midi port of the sound card, btw
[03:29] <mcrandello> coreymon, likely
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> secleinteer: right click on desktop, run command "kickoff"
[03:29] <intelikey> coreymon yes.  at this point it probably would.
[03:29] <coreymon> so, how do i know what i can safely backup?
[03:29] <lumpycow> Does anyone know if wireless works in Kubuntu 7.10??
[03:29] <Ange|us> where you able to do that command you gave me for the usplash Assid? it gave me a getopt error
[03:30] <seraph_> can anyone tell me where to get 7.10 alternate powerpc - iso
[03:30] <draik> lumpycow: I would assume it should
[03:30] <AmyRose> draik: There is a guide I wrote myself on it, but it's slightly outdated
[03:30] <Assid> Ange|us:  yes.. it ran here fine
[03:30] <secleinteer> nosrednaekim: it gives me the kmenu in a separate box - how can i get it on the panel?
[03:30] <draik> AmyRose: Online?
[03:30] <AmyRose> draik: Yeah... I'll PM you the link
[03:30] <draik> AmyRose: Thank you
[03:30] <coreymon> intelikey:  so, how do i know what i can safely backup?
[03:30] <eric__> so i think i need some help, after upgrade to gutsy, flgrx is not working at all
[03:30] <Assid> whats that site to upload images and stuff?
[03:30] <intelikey> draik i saw a good writeup on that the other day.   something about "linux file system higherarchical structure"   probably not spelled like that.
[03:30] <Assid> like imageshack?
[03:31] <draik> intelikey: Got a link?
[03:31] <intelikey> draik let me check.
[03:31] <Assid> like a pastebin for images?
[03:31] <draik> Thank you intelikey
[03:31] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[03:31] <eric__> does flgrx driver upgrade when going to Gutsy?
[03:31] <corinth> Can't mount my external hard drive, outputs this message : hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[03:31] <coreymon> Jucato: you have any idea what i can do?
[03:31] <draik> Jucato: .... Why am I not surprised. How are you old friend?
[03:31] <Jucato> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[03:32] <eric__> and is there anyway i can fall back to the fiesty one that i was using...
[03:32] <Jucato> (more technical)
[03:32] <Jucato> draik: trying to recover, but doing well nonetheless
[03:32] <BluesKaj> no joy with google earth...wonder if it will even run on gutsy
[03:32] <intelikey> draik doesn't look like the history goes back that far.  i'll google for it.   "you can too"
[03:32] <Jucato> coreymon: sorry I didn't catch, what's the problem?
[03:32] <seraph_> hi guys.. im looking for gutsy alternate iso for powerpc.... i can't seem to find it on the download page..
[03:33] <Jucato> !ppc
[03:33] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[03:33] <Assid> Ange|us: http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1tg6.png
[03:33] <draik> intelikey: I wasn't too sure about what to google. " 'slash' folder meaning " " root folder contents" "/ definition " and a few other variations didn't help me much
[03:33] <Jucato> seraph_: PPC is no longer officially supported.
[03:33] <Assid> it has amsn and the output of that command
[03:33] <Jucato> draik:  try linux filesystem heirarchy
[03:33] <Assid> amsn looks horrible to me
[03:33] <seraph_> ohh noooo
[03:33] <draik> Jucato: Thank you much
[03:34] <Jucato> seraph_: there's still a community project for that though
[03:34] <Jucato> I don't know the channel for it
[03:34] <Assid> anyone know whats needed to make amsn look "NORMAL"?
[03:34] <intelikey> draik http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html <<< not the one i was thinking of.  but looks ok for a simple what's what
[03:34] <Jucato> oh yeah better than the ubuntu one
[03:35] <seraph_> thank you ubotu and Jucato
[03:35] <intelikey> i really liked the one i saw the "other day"  been about 6 weeks i guess now.
[03:35] <Assid> intelikey: you happen to use amsn by any chance?
[03:35] <Jucato> !thanks | seraph_
[03:35] <ubotu> seraph_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:35] <rabindra> can someone help me with my screen refresh rate; it's just 60 Hz, I get no other option
[03:35] <intelikey> Assid no.
[03:36] <Assid> rabindra: TFT/LCD?
[03:36] <rabindra> Assid:CRT
[03:36] <intelikey> reconfigure xorg
[03:36] <Ange|us> Assid: ok i made the command, now im gonna reboot to test.
[03:36] <Assid> rabindra: increase your horizontal and vertical sync ranges
[03:36] <rabindra> Assid: In Ms Windows it's 85 Hz
[03:36] <Assid> Ange|us:  k
[03:37] <rabindra> Assid:from where?
[03:37] <Assid> rabindra: /etc/X11/xorg.conf pastebin that
[03:37] <Assid> rabindra: me from where? the syncs?
[03:37] <corinth> I really like kubuntu, but I'm going to switch back to Ubuntu if I can't figure out how to mount my external hard drive!
[03:37] <xevious> rabindra: is your monitor listed in the Monitor & Display applet in System Settings?
[03:39] <Assid> 4296 frames in 5.0 seconds = 859.163 FPS
[03:39] <mike-kubuntu> ok, i cant take this any more, ever since the upgrade to gutsy andy flash or java on a webpage freezes firefox, anyone know what could be going on? I'm on amd64 and i think i used the 32 bit wrapper program to get flash 9 working
[03:39] <Assid> is that decent while running compiz?
[03:40] <chill> hiya
[03:40] <mike-kubuntu> 33456 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6691.180 FPS
[03:40] <mrksbrd> corinth, u using 7.04 or 7.10?
[03:40] <Assid> mike-kubuntu: nice.. which card?
[03:40] <coreymon> Jucato: someting wierd happened with my upgrade, causing it to terminate in the middle
[03:40] <coreymon> Jucato: the result of which being that my system is probably corrupted, forcing me to have to do a fresh install
[03:41] <intelikey> i get one frame each time i refresh it.
[03:41] <Jucato> coreymon: try continuing using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends"?
[03:41] <coreymon> Jucato: you mean i dont have to do fresh
[03:41] <xevious> rabindra: you there?
[03:41] <Jucato> coreymon: probably not if it can still be saved
[03:41] <rabindra> xevious: i think it is listed but my model is not listed in Manufacturer's list
[03:42] <rabindra> Assid: ya the syncs
[03:42] <noam_> do version numbers actually mean anything? why .04 and .10?
[03:42] <xevious> rabindra: what brand/model?
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> noam_- Year.Month
[03:42] <noam_> are there .05 and .57 somewhere along th way?
[03:42] <noam_> ah
[03:43] <Jucato> 7.10 = 2007-10 = released October 2007
[03:43] <noam_> makes sense
[03:43] <coreymon> Jucato: this looks bad
[03:43] <coreymon> http://pastebin.ca/743098
[03:43] <Jucato> coreymon: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:44] <intelikey> noam_ if they released more than one per month it would look something like   7.10.3   7.10.24  7.11.6   ......
[03:44] <Angelus> Assid: no luck
[03:44] <Angelus> Assid: i bet the usplash is somekind bugged or something
[03:44] <coreymon> Jucato: again, this looks bad
[03:44] <coreymon> Jucato: http://pastebin.ca/743099
[03:44] <lee986321> sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debhelper \debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic how is this line  writen ?
[03:45] <intelikey> Angelus try adding  vga=791  to the kernel line
[03:45] <Jucato> coreymon: last try: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade --install-recommends
[03:45] <xevious> rabindra: which brand and model monitor?
[03:45] <Angelus> already done it intelikey
[03:45] <Jucato> coreymon: if that doesn't work, I think theere's a command to force dpkg to install sfs-server
[03:46] <lee986321> 1pastebin
[03:46] <lee986321> !pastebin
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[03:46] <intelikey> Angelus if you upgraded you could just use the older kernel for a few days until someone patches the fbcon module or the mkinitramfs  which ever is hosing things.
[03:46] <coreymon> Jucato: nope
[03:46] <Assid> Angelus:  :(
[03:47] <Jucato> coreymon: :(
[03:47] <Angelus> :(
[03:47] <intelikey> Assid           ^  too
[03:47] <coreymon> Jucato: whats the force command'
[03:47] <coreymon> Jucato: cant i just get rid of sfs
[03:47] <leileilol> oh jeez i can't upgrade to 7.10
[03:47] <Angelus> intelikey: i didn't upgrade
[03:47] <leileilol> or install 7.10
[03:47] <leileilol> i'm quite in a pickle
[03:47] <Jucato> coreymon: maybe. not really sure what it is though
[03:47] <coreymon> shouldnt getting rid of sfs fic it?
[03:47] <Angelus> intelikey:  infact i couldn't even install kubuntu, i had to install a command-line system first, you too Assid ?
[03:47] <leileilol> my dvd burner has broken cd laser for cd media so i can't read any or burn any cd
[03:47] <donsdw> rickey: if you are still here, did you solve your problem
[03:47] <leileilol> unetbooter doesn't have a final 7.10 installer
[03:48] <leileilol> there are no 7.10 dvds :(
[03:48] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41260/ sos
[03:48] <coreymon> Jucato: im removing sfs
[03:48] <Jucato> coreymon: good luck
[03:49] <intelikey> Angelus look on the bright side.  if you didn't know that usplash worked for someone else then you would never miss it.      "how often do you normally boot that thing anyway?"  :)
[03:49] <xevious> lee986321: what are you trying to do that you need to install that stuff?
[03:49] <Angelus> intelikey: many times a day, since i use windows to play games :p
[03:49] <lee986321> yes
[03:49] <coreymon> Jucato: oh s**t, this reaaaallly doesnt look good
[03:49] <coreymon> Jucato: http://pastebin.ca/743102
[03:49] <lee986321> Angelus yes
[03:49] <Angelus> intelikey:  and im the c00l kind of guy who  wants his computer to look cool :p
[03:49] <rabindra> xevious: Samsung SyncMaster 794MG; it detects my monitor as PlugnPlay
[03:50] <lee986321> xevious i saved the doc but its pretty chewed up
[03:50] <coreymon> Jucato: bad?
[03:50] <Jucato> coreymon: I don' t know what sfs-server is... so can't really say how to solve that... perhaps it's a service in /etc/init.d/ ?
[03:50] <intelikey> Angelus it sounds to me like you installed linux in the wrong box.
[03:50] <lee986321> Angelus ill paste the entire doc
[03:51] <jmichaelx> is there a repo available to install realplayer from, or are people generally just installing the package downloaded from real.com?
[03:51] <rickey> yes donsdw i did thanks
[03:51] <noam_> jmichaelx, i think medibuntu has it
[03:51] <coreymon> Jucato: lets find out
[03:51] <Angelus> what doc lee986321?
[03:51] <noam_> jmichaelx, but why do you need real player for?...
[03:51] <Assid> haha
[03:51] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41261/
[03:52] <Assid> aaargh.. i want amsn to look decent
[03:52] <xevious> rabindra: i would check the specs (horizontal and vertical refresh) of the other 794 series monitors on samsung.com and see if they match your monitor. then you can just use the 794 line under manufacturers->samsung
[03:52] <jmichaelx> noam_: i don't think they do, i have the medibuntu repo enabled, and no real player there
[03:52] <lee986321> Angelus the one i just pasted its for the ati drivers
[03:52] <Assid> hrmm
[03:52] <Angelus> i have geforce lee986321
[03:52] <Angelus> seires 8
[03:52] <Angelus> :p
[03:52] <mike-kubunt1> sorry, i got kicked off
[03:52] <coreymon> Jucato: my guess is that it means shared file system
[03:52] <Jucato> oh
[03:52] <Assid> oh
[03:52] <jmichaelx> noam_: i use it for some things.... .rm streams if i want to watch them in a stand alone player. not all that much, but i do use it some
[03:53] <Assid> i just had a theory
[03:53] <coreymon> Jucato: that seems to be the one that makes the most sense in the list
[03:53] <rickey> what do you need realplayer for wen kubuntu has so many good players
[03:53] <Assid> if you also were on an ati
[03:53] <Jucato> coreymon: you can always apt-cache show sfs-server
[03:53] <VousDeux> I'm running VMware WS on desktop 2. When I go fullscreen, is there some way I can switch to desktop 1 without leaving fullscreen?
[03:53] <lee986321> can some one help with the html version of this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41261/
[03:53] <Assid> Angelus: wanna know something funny?
[03:53] <Assid> it worked during the beta and daily builds and even alpha releases
[03:53] <coreymon> Jucato: sfs-server - Self-Certifying File System server
[03:54] <coreymon> Jucato: so, what is it?
[03:54] <Angelus> the only versions i tried assid where the RC and final lol
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> VousDeux: via the desktop pager applet in kicker
[03:54] <Jucato> coreymon: no idea. first tie I saw it
[03:54] <rabindra> xevious: thanks for the efforts you will make; the 794 model is not listed in the manufacturer's list
[03:54] <Assid> Angelus: bet you it worked in the RC
[03:54] <xevious> rabindra: i just saw the 794MB in there
[03:54] <Angelus> it didnt Assid
[03:55] <Assid> hrmm
[03:55] <Assid> werd
[03:55] <ubuntu__> I need some help with VMWare...
[03:55] <coreymon> Jucato: let me guess, i have to fresh dont i?
[03:55] <VousDeux> sub[t]rnl: I can't see the kicker of the host os when I have the guest on full screen.
[03:55] <mcrandello> wierd I reinstalled and now I can get into X.
[03:55] <ubuntu__> I can't get it to stop logging in as ubuntu...
[03:55] <mike-kubunt1> how would you suggets i find out whats making my firefox crash
[03:55] <Jucato> coreymon: unless you can find the dpkg option to force overwrite... which isn't really good though... but at this point... I don't know anymore..
[03:56] <Assid> mike-kubunt1: you still facing gmail issue?
[03:56] <Kanuha> having problems getting my wireless working. I have a linksys wmp11 pci card, I enabled the restricted drivers
[03:56] <ubuntu__> How do i get it to stop logging into the default account?
[03:56] <mcrandello> mike-kubunt1, mv your .firefox or .mozilla dir to .firefox-backup, and try restarting it
[03:56] <rabindra> xevious: it's not there in mine
[03:56] <Angelus> Assid: i found someone who made it work, i'll tell you how as soon as i get it working :)
[03:56] <mrksbrd> when attempting to d/l new wallpapers from "configure desktp" I get the following error(s)............"could not connect to host...http://download.kde.org/khotnewstuff/wallpaper-providers.xml"......then second error sts "error parsing providers list"
[03:56] <lee986321> LiAmO are you n line?
[03:56] <mcrandello> mike-kubunt1, then reinstall extensions 1 at a time, finally copying your bookmarks back over from the backup dir
[03:56] <mike-kubunt1> Assid: yeah, but its gmail and pretty much any site with java or flash
[03:57] <Assid> mike-kubunt1: just logged into my gmail.... worked fine
[03:57] <xevious> rabindra: Samsung -> Samsung Syncmaster 794MB/794MBplus/798MB
[03:57] <xevious> rabindra: are you using feisty or gutsy?
[03:57] <Assid> althought my fontws could look a bit better
[03:57] <mike-kubunt1> Assid: i think its because i used that 32 bit plugin wrapper and its still for feisty
[03:57] <sub[t]rnl> Kanuha: look into ndiswrapper
[03:57] <Assid> hrmm k
[03:57] <mike-kubunt1> but i don't remember what the package was called
[03:57] <Assid> err.. anyone know wht can i do to make the fonts better?
[03:57] <Angelus> Assid: ok ,  apt-get install startupmanager , and play with the settings, shout get it to work :D
[03:57] <Kanuha> sub[t]rnl, I installed that already
[03:58] <Assid> im on a laptop w/ lcd..
[03:58] <trevor_> Can I get help with user accounts?
[03:58] <Assid> also enabled subpixel hinting
[03:58] <rabindra> xevious: feisty
[03:58] <xevious> rabindra: ah. i'm in gutsy
[03:58] <sub[t]rnl> Kanuha: is it having trouble seeing the wireless routers, or just with the WEP key
[03:59] <Kanuha> sub[t]rnl, I tried entering the asci phrase and the hex, but I cannot see my wireless network.
[04:00] <rabindra> xevious: but list should not matter much. I know with some change in xconf file may be i will be able to do but last time i did it and i had to reinstall my kubuntu
[04:00] <sub[t]rnl> Kanuha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7319 see if anything here can get you moving
[04:00] <trevor_> !users
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[04:00] <Assid> should i exclude the range from 8-15 ?
[04:00] <Angelus> Assid:  did you install it ?
[04:00] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41262/ eh having issues waht am I doing wrong?
[04:01] <Assid> Angelus: nah.. other stuff being installed
[04:01] <Angelus> ok
[04:01] <Assid> Angelus: my 2mbit gets over in like 1/2 hr.. wanna download as much as i can
[04:01] <Angelus> when you're ready install startupmanager Assid it will fix it :p
[04:01] <Assid> Angelus: after tht im down to 128kbit
[04:01] <VousDeux> nevermind, I just had to assign a shortcut sequence.
[04:02] <ekrengel> does anyone know how to fall back to fiesty's flgrx driver after upgrading to gutsy?
[04:02] <ekrengel> gutsy's driver is def not workin with my card
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> lee986321: try apt-get update
[04:02] <wilson> you cant ekrengel it's tied to the kernel
[04:02] <ekrengel> gaaaaaaah
[04:02] <ekrengel> its killin me
[04:03] <lee986321> sub[t]rnl ok
[04:03] <ekrengel> would i have to do anything after the upgrade for dependencies?
[04:03] <ekrengel> something that i might have missed
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> ekrengel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the flgrx driver
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> also, look into aticonfig
[04:04] <ekrengel> yeah i had a custom xorg.conf file in fiesty
[04:04] <mcrandello> ekrengel, you could always use the ati installer, but you'd have to comment out everything in /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and then manually search and destroy ubuntu's fglrx modules for it to work
[04:04] <ekrengel> that was working great
[04:04] <Assid> err should i exclude the range for anti aliasing?
[04:05] <lee986321> sub[t]rnl http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41263/
[04:05] <mcrandello> ekrengel, that's a last resort sort of thing though
[04:05] <ekrengel> well i'll try the reconfigure and see if i can get it somewhat working
[04:06] <wilson> lee986321: you got some other package manager program open ? like adept
[04:07] <mike-kubunt1> wow, it must be a plugin
[04:07] <mike-kubunt1> i wonder what one
[04:07] <mcrandello> add them back in 1 at a time, restart and test until you got the culprit
[04:07] <mcrandello> badaboom badabing
[04:08] <mike-kubunt1> i bet its flash though
[04:08] <wilson> lee986321: forget what i said
[04:08] <jmichaelx> will there be a gutsy-commercial repository, or has that been replaced by the partners repo?
[04:09] <mcrandello> mike-kubunt1, what are we up to flash 10 now? maybe 9 or 8 would work better if that's the party crasher
[04:09] <lee986321> ok
[04:09] <Assid> err
[04:09] <Assid> Angelus: i found out about the amsn issue
[04:09] <wilson> module-assistant hmm
[04:09] <lee986321> yeah I need to translate all this into kubuntu and  change fiesty to gutsy
[04:09] <Assid> you need to recompile tcl/tk AND amsn
[04:10] <Angelus> lol Assid nice fix
[04:10] <Angelus> Assid: im playing with the startupmanager to fix the bootup splash
[04:10] <Angelus> somebody knows what size is kubuntu bootup splash?
[04:11] <mike-kubunt1> mcrandello: do they have a 64bit flash out yet?
[04:11] <Angelus> no mike-kubunt1
[04:11] <Angelus> mike-kubunt1: but you can use nspluginwrapper
[04:11] <mike-kubunt1> yeah, thats what i'm doing so far
[04:11] <mike-kubunt1> i think i'm still on flash 9 though
[04:11] <mcrandello> mike-kubunt1, that one I have no idea on
[04:11] <wilson> i dunno lee986321 there's a module-assistant for me
[04:12] <ekrengel> hmm
[04:12] <wilson> maybe there's a problem with the repository you're using
[04:12] <ekrengel> that didn't work
[04:12] <mcrandello> okay. I just put gutsy on here and adept says there's a new distribution available, I think I'm doing this wrong
[04:12] <ekrengel> ah i never should have upgraded
[04:14] <wilson> my rep has it lee986321
[04:14] <wilson> http://ftp.netspace.net.au/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/module-assistant/
[04:15] <wilson> well, its not my rep, its the rep i use
[04:17] <mike-kubunt1> wow
[04:17] <mike-kubunt1> i'm not sure what messed it up, but it was seriously messed up
[04:17] <mike-kubunt1> i desabled all the plugins and it still didn't fix it
[04:18] <lee986321> is the last line being written coretly?
[04:18] <ekrengel> ok looks pretty much the same as before after the second go-around with the reconfigure
[04:18] <ekrengel> at the top toolbar with all my icons, everything is blurred out
[04:19] <lee986321> wilson that  is ok I jsut need to know i the last line is writen corectly
[04:19] <ekrengel> i dont know what else to do...
[04:19] <ekrengel> i might just backup my stuff and do a fresh install of fiesty
[04:20] <wilson> er, on the last run, you didn't use sudo
[04:20] <lee986321> Nver mind Problem solved
[04:21] <mike> Konqueror keeps crashing?
[04:21] <mike-kubunt1> how do i transfer my bookmarks over?
[04:21] <mike> Icannot d/load gkrellm with add/remove,,had to use apt-get ,,like debian :)
[04:21] <mike-kubunt1> i mooved bookmarks.html but it didnt seem to do much
[04:21] <mcrandello> seriously though what happens if I click in adept to upgrade to the new distribution. I'm already on Gutsy...
[04:22]  * mcrandello doesn't want to open a portal to the future
[04:23] <fausticon> greeetings. eh... i seem to be having some problems running the 7.10 live cd.
[04:23] <mike> tell all
[04:23] <doneill> I had an interesting glitch in the RC for Gutsy where entries in the K-Menu were labelled "K-menu_entries--Control Centre" and such, has anybody run into this and/or know if it was fixed in the release?  (AMD64/OEM Install)
[04:24] <mike> kcontrol crashes,,I know that
[04:24] <fausticon> It boots normally for a bit and then dumps me back to the cli with "udev_event[2230]: run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit".
[04:25] <fausticon> It returns the same trying in safe mode and with regular Ubuntu, so I'm assuming my machine is being screwy again.
[04:25] <mike> fausticon, This will fix it   http://sidux.com/
[04:26] <mike> Fixed mine :)
[04:27] <fausticon> heh
[04:27] <VousDeux> hmmm...I've been using Gutsy since August. I've kept up with the updates on a daily basis, why is the Adept Updater sayinig I need to do a version upgrade now?
[04:27] <mike> There is no real "safe mode" :)
[04:27] <mike> voidmage, I get the same on boot
[04:28] <mike> Maybe its not really finished !
[04:28] <craigevil> Host/Kernel/OS  "craigevil" running Linux 2.6.23.1-slh-smp-3 i686 [ sidux 2007-03.1 - Γαια - kde-full - (200708151444) ]
[04:28] <craigevil> CPU Info        AMD Duron 64 KB cache flags( sse ) clocked at [ 1800.144 MHz ]
[04:28] <craigevil> Videocard       nVidia NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]  X.Org 1.4.0  [ 1280x1024 @50hz ]
[04:28] <craigevil> Network cards   Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet, at port: e400
[04:28] <craigevil> Processes 84 | Uptime 1day | Memory 395.0/2027.3MB | HDD ATA WDC WD800JB-00JJ Size 80GB (45%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce FX 5500/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! | GLX Version 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19 | Client Konversation 1.0.1 | Infobash v2.67
[04:28] <craigevil> crap sorry wrong channel
[04:29] <mike> craigevil, looks nice
[04:29] <VousDeux> Why do I get a bad feeling that this version upgrade is going to break everything.
[04:29] <wilson> Sysinfo for 'Athas': Linux 2.6.23.1 running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz at 3240 MHz (6958 bogomips), HD: 66/854GB, RAM: 753/2026MB, 192 proc's, 6.45min up
[04:29] <Lynoure> VousDeux: then backup first. :)
[04:29] <lee986321> !pastebin
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[04:30] <ekrengel> VousDeux: maybe just your video drivers
[04:30] <ekrengel> if you have ati
[04:30] <doneill> !launchpad
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[04:30] <doneill> pfft, i want to see the kde part :p
[04:30] <ekrengel> im gonna reinstall and put fiesty back on...
[04:30] <doneill> ekrengel: whats up with gutsy?
[04:30] <mike> ekrengel,  try sidux
[04:30] <Assid> doneill: too many issues?
[04:30] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41267/ does any one understand waht it is that I ma trying to do , I need a check to see if this is right so far
[04:31] <ekrengel> flgrx wasn't working at all with my video card
[04:31] <VousDeux> oh, haha...it's only doing 5 packages
[04:31] <Assid> err.. that usplash didnt fix itself
[04:31] <Assid> also.. compiz dies every alternate boot
[04:31] <doneill> i can't remember ever using the fglrx packages from the repository
[04:31] <Assid> and i cant access terminal
[04:31] <doneill> but if it works on feisty, you might as well
[04:31] <ekrengel> it was working perfectly in fiesty, so im just gonna put it back to how it was
[04:31] <ekrengel> yeah
[04:31] <doneill> although it would be much appreciated if you reported the bug on launchpad
[04:31] <ekrengel> i have my xorg backed up
[04:31] <doneill> just so they get around to fixing it
[04:32] <ekrengel> i would...but i cant even get flgrx outputs
[04:32] <ekrengel> i guess i could get the xorg log
[04:32] <ekrengel> i dont know how much good that will do though
[04:33] <ekrengel> i've got an X700 Pro
[04:33] <mike> run "smxi" in Sidux :)
[04:33] <ekrengel> i was using merged FB
[04:33] <ekrengel> oh yeah?
[04:33] <ekrengel> you like sidux?
[04:34] <arash> So people :), I want to upgrade to the latest 7.10, I want to make a back up of the system before doing so, what can you recommend?
[04:34] <mrksbrd> what does this mean...............Hal-Storage-Removable-Mount-All-Options-Refused UID 1000........rec'd this when plugging in my USB External HDD
[04:34] <ekrengel> mike: what do you like about it?
[04:34] <BigDaddy> hey guys, I can't remember. During installation, does Kubuntu as where the /home directory is? Or do I have to manuall set that after the installation?
[04:35] <mike> ekrengel, Sidux with smxi is so damn fast and easy
[04:35] <ekrengel> do you have an ati card?
[04:35] <mike> Too many errors in 7.10
[04:35] <doneill> ekrengel: every little bit helps
[04:35] <mike> ekrengel, Nvidia on this one
[04:36] <mike> ati 200 xpress on the laptop
[04:37]  * mrksbrd wants to know what does this mean...............Hal-Storage-Removable-Mount-All-Options-Refused UID 1000........rec'd this when plugging in my USB External HDD
[04:37] <ImpaledOnRebar> How to serve up strigi to users on intranet?
[04:37] <Assid> hrmm reporting a whole lot of bugs
[04:38] <flaccid> mrksbrd, search launchpad bugs and check fstab for nouser or user option
[04:38] <flaccid> lol ubuntu is a bug
[04:38] <mrksbrd> k
[04:39] <mike> ubuntu is better sorted with compiz-fusion
[04:39] <Assid> sorted?
[04:40] <Assid> reporting to ubuntu is the same as reporting to kubuntu in launchpad right
[04:40] <mike> Well it worked ,,,,I hope it still does\
[04:40] <flaccid> yeah
[04:40] <Assid> k
[04:40] <Assid> 3rd bug filed
[04:40] <BigDaddy> Anyone know about the /home mountin gduring install?
[04:40] <ekrengel> mike: what does sidux use? kde? xfce?
[04:40] <Assid> few more to go
[04:40] <flaccid> lol
[04:40] <mike> ekrengel, kde
[04:40] <mike> full and fast
[04:40] <arash> Can I put whole my Kubuntu system and all in it to a external hard drive and later recover if upgrade to 7.10 goes wrong?
[04:41] <BigPick> Eh... I have never had good experiences with external harddrives.
[04:41] <flaccid> you can't recover an upgrade, but you can try to repair by downgrading etc.
[04:41] <mrksbrd> flaccid, i get this error in terminal....Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-<user>" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[04:41] <mike> Downgrading hell!
[04:41] <flaccid> mrksbrd, people have reported that a lot
[04:41] <BigPick> Downgrading == the Devil's tool.
[04:42] <mrksbrd> lol, what does it mean??/
[04:42] <flaccid> it means it wants that file to be owned by root and not the user
[04:42] <mike> The 7.10 release is not sorted :(
[04:42] <flaccid> report it on launchpad
[04:42] <flaccid> !bugs
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[04:42] <mrksbrd> i should just go back to 7.04
[04:43] <arash> flaccid , I was thinking of do some sort of back up of everything, and just rawly rewrite the whole partition if upgrade to 7.10 goes wrong?
[04:43] <mike> ubuntu gui works a little better but I am not a Gnome fan
[04:43] <flaccid> i think we have to get used to premature releases
[04:43] <[Relic]> any ideas on why I have no applications list on the bar?
[04:43] <BigPick> 7.10 not sorted...? Lemme know know 'cause I'm downloading it as we speak.
[04:43] <BigDaddy> mike: what does that mean? Not sorted?
[04:43] <flaccid> arash, i would install with a separate /home partition which is not default so that you do'nt have to worry
[04:43] <mike> many probs
[04:44] <mike> compiz-fusion not installed
[04:44] <flaccid> its pretty normal for ubuntu to release a buggy prod release
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[04:44] <flaccid> compiz-fusion is not with kubuntu, but unubntu
[04:44] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> mike, this is all a known fact
[04:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[04:44] <flaccid> it can be i nstalled
[04:44] <BigPick> There are always problems. Its just whether or not I can get to sleep tonight.
[04:44] <mike> Its included in Ubuntu?
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> boom, kde compiz
[04:44] <flaccid> there should only be a few, minor problems with prod releases. they should be tested throughouly first
[04:44] <ekrengel> im not going back to sleep untill i get it back to the way it was
[04:44] <ekrengel> lol
[04:45] <mike> rc 16 :(
[04:45] <BigDaddy> mike: do you think 7.10 is not worthy of desktop use yet?
[04:45]  * arash waits a month with upgrade :p
[04:45] <Assid> more bugs.. more bugs....
[04:45] <flaccid> lol
[04:45] <mike> not for a noob too many fixes needed
[04:45]  * Assid does more bug reporting
[04:45] <arash> but it seems to have so many new good features :(
[04:45] <flaccid> like?
[04:46] <Assid> i am doing more bug reporting in 1 day then i did in 1 week
[04:46] <BigDaddy> crap, I just spent all damn day dowloading the DVD hoping it would be more stable than my 7.04
[04:46] <arash> Dolphin, OO 2.3
[04:46] <mike> http://sidux.com/   =stable
[04:46] <flaccid> it might be stable for some users. everyone's variables are different
[04:46] <mike> Gaia
[04:46] <BigPick> KDE 4 Beta! <3
[04:47] <ekrengel> mike: i'll give sidux a try
[04:47] <arash> KDE 4 looks ugly imo
[04:47] <mike> I want linux to work for me not the converse :)
[04:47] <flaccid> it you want a working unix desktop, something bsd is going to be more stable than linux
[04:47] <arash> mike, good one ;)
[04:47] <BigPick> Give KDE 4 some time. And yes it does look like it got hit by a bus.
[04:47] <ekrengel> but im seeing on the front page that ati driver is still broken in xorg 7.3
[04:48] <ekrengel> so i dunno if it will make a difference, what is guty's xorg version?
[04:48] <BigPick> Flaccid, why would you ever wish BSD on someone... ever...
[04:48] <wilson> kubuntu 7.10 is fine for me
[04:48] <wilson> there's a few nagging things but meh
[04:48] <flaccid> BigPick, because somebody mentioned the word stability....
[04:48] <flaccid> duh
[04:48] <mike> I am using compiz-fusion in Sidux  with much less cpu input than ubuntu?
[04:48] <wilson> ksystemlog crashes for no reason, but it looks to be a kde4 app bastardised into kubuntu
[04:49] <BigPick> Yeah, my servers were stable. So stable nothing ran. Then I switched to Debian then Ubuntu. Much happier now.
[04:49] <BigPick> Rocks are stable.
[04:49] <BigDaddy> mike: why are you in the kubuntu channel if you are not a kubuntu user?
[04:49] <Jucato> wilson: ksystemlog is a KDE 3 app
[04:49] <flaccid> BigPick, probably a user problem. what were the servers running?
[04:49] <Assid> 1 more bug reported
[04:49] <mike> BigDaddy, I have it installed on one drive ,,I am a user
[04:50] <wilson> kde-window-decoractor crashed a few times, so im using emerald, that's fine. If you right click on the titlebar and chose 'move' or any of the move options and try to use them, the thing you are moving will just disappear, it's still running, but disappeared
[04:50] <Nuked> Im running gutsy i386 using the intel i915 chipset... on my viewsonic monitor it seems to refuse displaying the image at 1440x900... how can I fix this (it worked fine under feisty)
[04:50] <arash> meh, I'll be ready to upgrade by the time CDs arrive, so I better get going (logins to shipit)
[04:50] <Nuked> BigPick: rocks are stable until someone stumbles over them
[04:51] <flaccid> some people don't know how to admin rocks, too :)
[04:51] <BigPick> flaccid, openbsd 4.2, freebsd 5.5
[04:51] <BigDaddy> mike: OK... I have seen people come into a room just to pimp their fav distro. Didn't mean to insult you, just so you know
[04:51] <BigPick> I will have you all know my admining skills onced caused a server to kill itself.
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:51] <BigPick> Hung itself by its own power chord.
[04:51] <mike> BigDaddy, Maybe several updates needed but not what I would expect for a 'final"
[04:51] <flaccid> BigPick, problem looks like it was you :)
[04:51] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: I did that... no result
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: are you using xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[04:52] <BigPick> I know! BSD is not idiot proof. Ubuntu isn't perfect but its getting better.
[04:52] <Nuked> I would assume so sub[t]rnl
[04:52] <flaccid> nothing is idiot proof, and nothing should be :)
[04:52] <Nuked> should I have used the i810?
[04:52] <BigDaddy> mike: do you know if there is a point in the kubuntu installation that alowes you to assign the partition the /home is on?
[04:52] <wilson> jacto: my bad, i got 3.4 mixed up with 4
[04:52] <flaccid> i think you might mean the word intuitive :)
[04:52] <Nuked> flaccid: agreed
[04:52] <mike> BigDaddy, I also like pclos and Sidux ,,both kde
[04:53] <BigDaddy> pclos?
[04:53] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: well, I have used that resolution with the intel driver, and setting it within xorg.conf
[04:53] <mike-kubunt1> how do you ad an icon to a webpage
[04:53] <mike-kubunt1> like the left hand of the adress bar
[04:53] <BigPick> Intuitive... nah, sounds too much like a windows interface word.
[04:53] <wilson> Jucato: is it in the source branch of 3.5, i couldnt find it
[04:53] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: add a picture file named favicon.ico to the root directory of the website
[04:53] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl:  the screen doesnt display the image properly... there are 2 inches of black sitting to the left of my desktop
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: adjust your monitor?
[04:54] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: it can be anything png, jpg or gif but just name it favicon.ico
[04:54] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: I have... still nothing
[04:54] <flaccid> BigPick, its actually UI theory :)
[04:54] <BigPick> Idiotproof may be a high goal to set but I think it is an achievable one. :)
[04:54] <mike-kubunt1> QwertyM: are there size limits?
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[04:54] <mike> I got the wrong screen resolution on boot?
[04:54] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: its really strange actually
[04:54] <mike> 1280x800?
[04:54] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: no .. but it looks good if its square
[04:54] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: and also make it small in size so that it doesn't take much time loading :)
[04:55] <BigPick> flaccid, the day I start having to learn theory is the day I start laying hardware floors.
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: sounds like your vertical and horizontal syncs are off maybe
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: google your monitor or check the manual for the syncs, and try plugging them in
[04:55] <flaccid> BigPick, awww thats no good
[04:55] <BigPick> I know, I hate splinters.
[04:55] <flaccid> lol
[04:55] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: the syncs are probably off
[04:56]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> had that issue a time or 12
[04:56] <Jucato> wilson: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/sysadmin/
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> mike: are you taling about your framebuffer?
[04:56] <mike> gui when booting
[04:56] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl:  its a pain digging that info up... it was supplied in a little handbook w/ the monitor
[04:57] <BigPick> Ack... we gotta figure out a torrent-based upgrade client.
[04:57] <mike> sub[t]rnl, when up and running resolution comes right
[04:57] <mike-kubunt1> QwertyM: ok, grated the files huge right now, but its not workin here: http://fuag.is-a-geek.com/favicon.ico
[04:57] <mike> 1024x768 on this monitor
[04:58] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: I can see it load on your homepage just fine
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> mike: what kind of video card?
[04:58] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: you might have to refresh/force refresh your cache? :)
[04:59] <juan> hello all!
[04:59] <rr72> i was upgrading and i got a segfault and it closed the dist upgrade window
[04:59] <mike> Nvidia Geforce
[04:59] <rr72> how do i resume the upgrade from where it left off?
[04:59]  * lee986321 is really in tears and crying atm..
[04:59] <mike-kubunt1> QwertyM: thanks, your right
[04:59] <juan> this is what i have done, i made a frenh gusty install with gnome, and then i added kubuntu-destop and kde
[05:00] <juan> and kde is working  lot better than the gnome counterpart
[05:00] <mike> juan, You find Ubuntu better sorted?
[05:00] <n8k99> rr72: sudo dpkg -configure -a
[05:00] <n8k99> in a terminal
[05:00] <juan> i'm not sure i like it really
[05:00] <posingaspopular> oh it's rr72
[05:01] <posingaspopular> dont help him! ;p
[05:01] <rr72> i smell tacos
[05:01] <Jucato> right back at yah posingaspopular :P
[05:01] <BigPick> can anyone recomend either libtorrent or libtutil for torrent client development?
[05:01] <fulat2k> hi folks, is kde4 b3 still broken in gutsy?
[05:01] <Jucato> don't help posingaspopular! he's just posing! :)
[05:01] <Jucato> fulat2k: define broken
[05:01] <posingaspopular> oh Jucato, it's much too early for you to be awake. dont be grouchy.
[05:01]  * n8k99 doesn`t help anybody but himself
[05:01] <lee986321> ok guyd I am not able nor do I have the capacity to understand at waht I need to do to get my ati working
[05:01] <verbose> i'm getting a dcopserver error after upgrade from feisty to gutsy and i can't login to kde. i can log in failsafe. i tried removing /tmp/.ICE-unix and ~/.DCOPserver_*
[05:01] <juan> mike, some things are not really working
[05:01] <QwertyM> fulat2k: yeah, can't say broken but it sure is unusable ..
[05:01] <mike> fulat2k, Not complete
[05:01] <Jucato> posingaspopular: it's noon exactly here. it's definitely not too early :)
[05:02] <mike-kubunt1> my mediawiki directory vanashed when i upgraded
[05:02] <Angelus> contrast83: no luck, couldnt get it to work
[05:02] <fulat2k> damn.
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> mike: whats your highest resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:02] <fulat2k> got sold on the screenies {G}
[05:02] <rr72> n8k99~ couldnt i just dist-upgrade?
[05:02] <mike-kubunt1> anyone know where it mighta gone?
[05:02] <lee986321> so unless, I can figure it out, iam jsut going to have to figure something else out, I am on my 20th reformatting of the hdd
[05:02] <contrast83> Angelus: Sorry, man. Not sure what else you could do. :-\
[05:02] <posingaspopular> when i talked to you yesterday around 4am, it would have been like 3pm over there... how were you just waking up?
[05:02] <Angelus> contrast83: shoot myself or the computer lol
[05:02] <verbose> mike-kubunt1: have you tried using locate?
[05:02] <BigPick> wow 20th reformatting?
[05:02] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: locate <name> it?
[05:02] <atlfalcons866> !jffs2
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jffs2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <lee986321> all I ask for is  some kind of help in getting the drivers up and running right..hell I'lllet you in my system if that is waht it takes
[05:02] <contrast83> Angelus: Dual-booting?
[05:03] <mike> sub[t]rnl, 1024x768 is all this lcd can take but it boots at 1280x800?
[05:03] <Angelus> yes contrast83
[05:03] <n8k99> rr72: you were in the middle of updating when it quit- thaty command will pick up where you left off
[05:03] <rr72> k ty
[05:03] <Assid> more bug reports
[05:03] <juan> has anyone installed kde 4 with gusty?
[05:03] <contrast83> Angelus: You could try just disabling USplash and having a text-only boot.
[05:03] <Assid> looks like they took some weird beta and released it
[05:03] <Assid> Angelus: didnt work for me
[05:03] <sub[t]rnl> mike: whatever the highest resolution is in your xorg.conf, is what the login screen "thinks" the resolution is at, which can cause it to appear much larger than wanted
[05:04] <n8k99> !kde4
[05:04] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> mike: so kill the high end ones that you don't use
[05:04] <Angelus> Assid: neither for me
[05:04] <contrast83> juan: Yeah. Beta 3's a big step up from Beta 2, but still a ways off from being usable on an everyday basis, for me, at least.
[05:04] <rr72> adept manager still has PID locked :/ kill it?
[05:04] <ekrengel> mike: what version of kde does sidux use?
[05:04] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: still no result
[05:04] <n8k99> yes rr72
[05:04]  * lee986321 heart broken that he doesn't have the mentle abilliteis to follow complex instructions
[05:04] <mike> sub[t]rnl, ok i will have to manually edit,,this is not so noob friendly,who has been writing the reviews??
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> mike: if you want noob friendly, boot windows
[05:05] <juan> anyone know why dolphin and not stick to konqueror?
[05:05] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: chill out
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: ?
[05:05] <lee986321> I think.I'll just forget aobut it and go back to playing my video games
[05:05] <Angelus> Assid: worst, my amsn fonts got ugly too lol
[05:05] <Nuked> the noob friendly thing
[05:05] <shadowhywind> Hay all i just finished my upgrade to gusty, and i noticed there are 3 packages to update, so when i try to update it, it says that there is a new distribution version available, what should i do?
[05:05] <Assid> hahaha
[05:05] <n8k99> juan preparing you for kde4
[05:05] <se7en^Of^9> lee986321: my ac is not working ... :)
[05:06] <Assid> Angelus: wanna see a dumb bug?
[05:06] <contrast83> juan: Because they're GNOME-ifying KDE. For further evidence, compare System Settings (now the default) to Control Center.
[05:06] <n8k99> but you still have konqueror file manager juan
[05:06] <Jucato> !dolphin | juan
[05:06] <ubotu> juan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[05:06] <Angelus> Assid: the boot up splash was a pretty dumb one LoL
[05:06] <verbose> how can i completely remove kde and switch to gnome?
[05:06] <Nuked> mike: the fact of the matter is that ubuntu and every other linux distro will kick your butt every now and then
[05:06] <lee986321> a/c...I know nothing aobut that lol
[05:06] <sub[t]rnl> shadowhywind: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:06] <sub[t]rnl> shadowhywind: see if that corrects it
[05:06] <Assid> Angelus: logout.. use a wrong password.. it shows wrong password, but.. it wont reset to allow you to retry
[05:06] <Nuked> mike: but stay the course... nothing will compare once you get things up and running
[05:06] <Assid> so you have to restart X
[05:06] <juan> any ideas on the benefits of dolphin?
[05:07] <n8k99> Jucato: is sooooo smart
[05:07] <Jucato> hahah
[05:07] <mike-kubunt1> how would i port the output of locate to a file?
[05:07] <juan> is it better, faster? what?
[05:07] <n8k99> juan usability
[05:07] <Nuked> juan: lighter on resources perhaps
[05:07] <mike-kubunt1> its to long for terminal output
[05:07] <Assid> Jucato:  ?
[05:07] <rr72> n8k99~ python keeps locking it
[05:07] <verbose> mike-kubunt1: locate blah > output_file
[05:07] <Jucato> juan: usability, new features, faster, lighter, cleaner code, easier to maintain
[05:07] <mike> Nuked, kcontrol crashes as well
[05:07] <lee986321> I guess , I wsn't as smart as I thuaght I was.
[05:07] <rr72> the dpkg database
[05:07] <Jucato> juan: and is actively worked on
[05:07] <mike> 7.0.4 was solid
[05:07] <Assid> c-f still crashes on me
[05:07] <lee986321> compute codes changed so much over the las 20 years lol
[05:07] <n8k99> hmmm.... interesting rr72
[05:08] <Assid> i think its some option i enabled
[05:08] <Toma-> How do I change the keyboard layout?
[05:08] <VousDeux> this distribution upgrade has been at it for a long time for just 5 packages
[05:08] <rr72> python keeps launching dist-upgrade
[05:08] <shadowhywind> the only packages that have been kepy back are compiz-core, compiz-kde, compiz-plugins
[05:08] <sub[t]rnl> rr72: adept is locked?
[05:08] <contrast83> If I want a stripped down file manager for the default, I'll go to GNOME.
[05:08] <lee986321> Iam going to try one more time
[05:08] <n8k99> then just run a dist-upgrade
[05:08] <draik> Are there any screenshots of 7.10?
[05:08] <Nuked> mike:  did you dist-upgrade by any chance?
[05:08] <Jucato> Toma-: System Settings -> Regional & Layout
[05:09] <shadowhywind> should i remove the pre-released repo now that the upgrade is done?
[05:09] <rr72> sub[t]rnl~ the dpkg database is locked
[05:09] <lee986321> se7en^Of^9 oh hi there
[05:09] <se7en^Of^9> morning lee986321
[05:09] <se7en^Of^9> :)
[05:09] <contrast83> I recognize Dolphin as a good program, but I very strongly disagree with it being the default in a desktop environment like KDE, whose strongpoint is configurability and functionality, even if it takes a bit more time to familiarize yourself with it at first. /rant
[05:09] <juan> i have no splash screen when the system is booting up -or down for that matter, just a black screen
[05:09] <lee986321> ok here it is guys, Iam not an IT stuedent, I am a comon person with a dissabillity in learning and understanding complex codes and such. this is why I ask for help
[05:10] <Assid> i enabled a cube
[05:10] <sub[t]rnl> rr72: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:10] <Assid> and all i get is 2 sides of a plane
[05:10] <Assid> stupid crap
[05:10] <mike-kubunt1> aw crap, i lost my mediawiki files again...
[05:10] <se7en^Of^9> no upgrades for the last 2 days i am shocked
[05:10] <lee986321> the only programing I did was on a c-64
[05:10] <mike> Nuked, Fresh install in a dedicated drive ,,"cannot du kubuntu" It breaks
[05:10] <sub[t]rnl> se7en^Of^9: kdelibs upgrade has been issued
[05:10] <lee986321> and it was the basic of all basic
[05:10] <Nuked> Assid: the solution is simple
[05:10] <rr72> sub[t]rnl~ python is running procs that are using the db right now, like dist-upgrade and when i kill them they just come back
[05:11] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: use that extraction operator or something "command > filename"
[05:11] <mike> Great for real noobs :)
[05:11] <mike-kubunt1> QwertyM: i found it, but its a blank template again
[05:11] <gib> I had one of those.  :)  It was amazing how good the word processors were for the C-64 all cramed into 64!  The PC WP of the time like MM really sucked.
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> rr72: oh, so your not trying to unlock them
[05:12] <rr72> sub[t]rnl~ i am trying to finish an upgrade that got a seg fault
[05:12] <lee986321> aobut the only thing I can figure out is ho w to network my mothers  webtv to her pc and fix waht issues she has with windows
[05:12] <Assid> Nuked:  ?
[05:12] <Nuked> you need to set the virtual size to 4
[05:12] <sub[t]rnl> rr72: kill the python PID's?
[05:12] <rr72> they come back
[05:12] <Nuked> in the general options if memory serves correctly
[05:12] <Assid> Nuked: okay forgot that one
[05:12] <Assid> there was something else too
[05:13] <fulat2k> juan__: just did.  it's not usable
[05:13] <lee986321> why is the 64 bit being such a pain in the...
[05:13] <Assid> oh yeah windows are snapping to the corners.. any idea how to disable that
[05:13] <Assid> Nuked:  thats when i try and move a window around
[05:13] <sub[t]rnl> rr72: ksysgurad, enable tree, find whats starting the python process, then kill it
[05:13] <sub[t]rnl> rr72: or ps aux|grep for it
[05:13] <rr72> what ive been doing
[05:14] <Nuked> Assid: there is an option... i just dont know where
[05:14] <rr72> something buried in tmp kde backports
[05:14] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: yeah, your using compiz fusion?
[05:14] <Assid> yeah
[05:14] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: i remember mine doing that, there was some option is ccsm, let me try to find it again
[05:14] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: it "sticks" to other windows right?
[05:14] <lee986321> for the love of pete, when i come backonline, can some on at least access my pc to see what it is I am doing wrong
[05:14] <Assid> err.. the sides/corners of the screen
[05:15] <rr72> sub[t]rnl~ looks like running stuff from a temp dir kde-root backport thing
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: yeah, its in wobbly windows plugin
[05:15] <lee986321> i have all frigging night
[05:15] <juan> korversation crashed...i'm not sure i like 7.10
[05:15] <Assid> got it.. thanks
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: check the snap inverted off
[05:16] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: ok.. good
[05:17] <juan> how to enable compiz in kde?
[05:17] <sub[t]rnl> juan: alt+f2 and run compiz --replace
[05:17] <draik> When would be a safe time to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[05:17]  * lee986321 wonders if his online class room is still open as i have been trying to get this opperational..was studying ms works and...Excell
[05:18] <lee986321> missed lik a month
[05:18] <sub[t]rnl> draik: when the servers calm down probably
[05:18] <lee986321> oh well lol
[05:18] <sub[t]rnl> draik: or now, if you have the patience
[05:18] <emanuel> Hi there!
[05:18]  * se7en^Of^9 useses 7.10 since tribe 1 and never had problems
[05:18] <sub[t]rnl> se7en^Of^9: :P you beat the rush, good man
[05:18] <draik> sub[t]rnl: I'd prefer the former with an ETD
[05:18] <rr72> got it
[05:18] <lee986321> hello emanual....definition of name known
[05:18] <Assid> you know when when you logout.. it should go to kwin and logout
[05:19] <Assid> so when you start again.. it starts properly
[05:19] <VousDeux> okay, so this distribution upgrade appears to be hung on 'Installing the upgrades'. I clicked the X button and it warns me that the system might be unstable if I cancel...sounds like a catch-22.
[05:19] <sub[t]rnl> draik: hard telling
[05:19] <Assid> otherwise compiz messes thiings up
[05:19] <emanuel> Have anyone tried 7.10 in a Compaq F500 yet?
[05:19] <sub[t]rnl> draik: might be faster to download and burn an alternate cd and upgrade with that
[05:19] <se7en^Of^9> sub[t]rnl: i had to because my notebook wouldn't work with the old kernel
[05:19] <rr72> n8k99~ that didnt do anything lol, found errors and a bunch of dep problems
[05:19] <sub[t]rnl> se7en^Of^9: I updated as soon as rc1 came out, i knew there would be a frenzy
[05:19] <draik> sub[t]rnl: I just got the Live CD
[05:20] <Assid> okay brb.. im gonna try and get bluetooth + gprs working with kppp
[05:20] <n8k99> geez-sorry rr72
[05:20] <sub[t]rnl> draik: if your wanting to upgrade and not do a clean install, use the alternate
[05:20]  * lee986321 system resrting
[05:20] <rr72> n8k99~ try dist-upgrade?
[05:20] <sub[t]rnl> draik: if a fresh start doesn't bother you, drop the live
[05:20] <draik> sub[t]rnl: I get the LiveCD just in case
[05:20] <draik> New installs or whatever
[05:21] <lee986321> se7en^Of^9 i wish I could be assumilated lol, then d be smart lol
[05:21] <n8k99> rr72: sure seems reasonable
[05:21] <Angelus> Assid: if you ever find a fix dude, tell me cause its anoying meh
[05:21] <Assid> Angelus: well i did notice it boots faster if you press CTRL ALT F1 during that phase
[05:22] <Angelus> speed is not a problem Assid, i want the picture lol
[05:22] <Assid> Angelus: yeah dont we all
[05:22] <ses59_> I did the version upgrade from adept manager but now the version upgate is still there
[05:22] <_michael> Hello does anyone know how I can encrypt with gpg on linux, then be able to decrypt it with gpg4win on a different computer? I think I'd have to export the key but I'm not certain
[05:22] <ses59_> what should I do not
[05:23] <ses59_> do now
[05:23] <ses59_> bad spelling
[05:24] <juan> ok, i am running compiz, but i don't get a cube, eventhough i enabled it, i get only 2 sides of the cube, front and back, just like a stiff sheet of paper, looks funny, but it's not what i want
[05:24] <n8k99> _michael: yes you`ll have to export your secret key to the windows machine
[05:25] <juan> and no window borders for that matter
[05:25] <ses59_> I rebooted the computer and the desktop and everything is the same as before should something be changed to boot in to the new gibbon 7.10
[05:25] <lee_> so why again is that I am changing over to linux?
[05:25] <draik> Is there a way that I can hear my voicemail in Kubuntu and have it saved on my computer?
[05:26] <n8k99> _michael: i usually copy /home/n8k99/.gpg to a thumb drive
[05:26] <_michael> n8k99: Ok then do I just import that key on gpg4win and enter the passphrase etc... or are there other steps?
[05:26] <juan> any ideas on how to solve my problem?
[05:26] <sub[t]rnl> juan: get inside the configure-settings manager
[05:27] <sub[t]rnl> juan: ccsm
[05:27] <lee_> thre was an error committing changes.Possibly was a problem downlaoding some packages or the commit would break packages EOL
[05:27] <n8k99> _michael: you`ll need to import the keys into gpg4win- abd use the same passphrase
[05:27] <rabindra> do we have guitar pro for linux or wat to do can u help ?
[05:27] <lee_> system is now upgrading
[05:28] <sub[t]rnl> juan: once inside ccsm, go to general-> desktop size-> and adjust horizontal virtual size to 4 or whowever many sides of a cube you want
[05:28] <lee_> I have got to trash this friggin cdrom
[05:28] <_michael> n8k99: Thank you very much :)
[05:28] <juan> sub[t]rnl: ok, let's see
[05:28] <n8k99> welcome
[05:28] <bangkapos> test
[05:28] <lee_> getting upgrade prequisits failed
[05:28] <bangkapos_> ---
[05:29] <draik> I want to listen to my voicemail through a phone line and then have it saved as an audio clip on my computer
[05:29] <juan> sub[t]rnl: thanks, that did the trick, what about my window's borders?
[05:29] <lee_> the system was unable to get prequsies for the upgrade the upgrade will abort now and restire the origional system
[05:29] <rabindra> please let me know about guitar pro
[05:30] <sub[t]rnl> juan: sudo apt-get install emerald
[05:30] <sub[t]rnl> juan: thats the Decorator for compiz fusion
[05:30]  * n8k99 has no idea about guitar pro
[05:30] <VousDeux> this distribution upgrade has been hung on 'Installing the upgrades' for what feels like about an hour now...I'm not sure what I should do.
[05:31] <Assid> err.. can someone help me setup kppp to connect to my gprs connection
[05:31] <Assid> via bluetooth
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> VousDeux: be patient. Everything via adept and apt are slow because of server load
[05:31] <rabindra> someone else help me  i would be very grateful
[05:31] <n8k99> VousDeux: there is alot of traffic right now
[05:31] <Assid> it keeps saying it cant find /dev/rfcomm0
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> rabindra: whats the question?
[05:31] <VousDeux> but it already finished the download
[05:32] <VousDeux> it's supposed to be installing now
[05:32] <rabindra> wanna know abt guitar pro for linux
[05:32] <outofcrepes> may anyone assist me with reinstalling my bootloader (grub)?
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> vousdeus: at the end of a download it updates headers, thats why its hanging
[05:32] <lee_> aafter thisupgrade iam trashing all my disks and starting fresh
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> rabindra: your in #kubuntu
[05:32] <VousDeux> okay...I guess I have little choice but wait
[05:32] <juan> sub[t]rnl: ok, sorry to bother you so much, emerald installed, now what?
[05:32] <rabindra> yes
[05:33] <sub[t]rnl> VousDeux: :P
[05:33] <lee_> tre  is no upgrade for my system the upgrade will be canceld?
[05:33] <sub[t]rnl> juan: start-settings-emerald manager
[05:33] <VousDeux> I guess I'll go get a sandwich and some coffee
[05:33] <Assid> err.. how do i set my phone as /dev/rfcomm0
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: cell phone?
[05:34] <wilson> juan: type in emerald --replace
[05:34] <lee986321>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <merlin>
[05:34] <Assid> yes
[05:35] <VousDeux> whoops
[05:35] <rabindra> sub[t]rnl: yes i m using kubuntu
[05:35] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: is your blue tooth hardware installed and working?
[05:35] <Assid> yes
[05:35] <n8k99> lee986321 might want to change your password
[05:35] <juan> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is a lot better
[05:35] <lee986321> okoh shi
[05:35] <posingaspopular> whoo, how long was i afk
[05:35] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: http://www.jeremythompson.uklinux.net/RH8-0/Bluez.html see if that sheds light
[05:35] <lee986321> i hate this
[05:36] <VousDeux> lee986321: that's why you should always use the server window for that stuff...not the channel window
[05:36] <outofcrepes> so is anyone able to assist in reinstalling grub?
[05:36] <posingaspopular> !grub | outofcrepes
[05:36] <ubotu> outofcrepes: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> outofcrepes: whats the problem
[05:37] <sub[t]rnl> ah, see posingaspop's links
[05:37] <rabindra> sub[t]rnl: you there?
[05:37] <sub[t]rnl> rabindra: negative
[05:37] <_luke_> I'm on Kubuntu Gutsy... but when I run compiz --replace I lose all my titlebars
[05:37] <sub[t]rnl> _luke_: sudo apt-get install emerald
[05:37] <outofcrepes> same happened to me i have not been able to reinstall it through online forums...
[05:38] <uchan> ad org indonesia nggak cih
[05:38] <rabindra> anyone knowing guitar pro?is it available for linux
[05:38] <outofcrepes> ok i will go give a look at that
[05:38] <_luke_> sub[t]rnl: thanks I'll give it a try
[05:38] <_luke_> sub[t]rnl: once I install emerald... do I still just run compiz using the compiz --replace?
[05:38]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[05:39] <juan> _luke_: and emerald --replace as well
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> emerald is just a window decorator for compiz
[05:39] <_luke_> ok
[05:39] <lee986321> VousDeux how the he....do i change the dang thing
[05:39] <n8k99> rabindra: just went to website, they only have windows and mac versions;
[05:40] <rabindra> n8k99:can i use wine to run /install guitar pro
[05:40] <_luke_> sub[t]rnl: thanks it is working
[05:40] <n8k99> there is a guitar tab app for linux but not with all the bells and whistles that guitar pro has advertised
[05:40] <sub[t]rnl> good deal
[05:41] <riefzu> heloo
[05:41] <uchan> helloooo
[05:41] <n8k99> rabindra: guitar pro on wine might be interesting as long as the latency issues are resolved
[05:41] <melkor> Anybody go through the BC43XX wireless card with gutsy?
[05:42] <uchan> sorry i can,t speak english
[05:42] <sub[t]rnl> !es | uchan
[05:42] <ubotu> uchan: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[05:42] <VousDeux> lee986321: ./msg nickserv set password .....
[05:42] <sub[t]rnl> just a guess
[05:43] <sub[t]rnl> !ndiswrapper | melkor
[05:43] <ubotu> melkor: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:43] <melkor> yeah I went through the who ndiswrapper in fiesty and it worked now I upgraded and it doesn't work do I have to do it again?
[05:43] <sub[t]rnl> probably
[05:44] <riefzu> how to partited when first install ubuntu? please..help
[05:44] <Assid> sub[t]rnl: gets stuck at initializing modem
[05:44] <sub[t]rnl> !partition
[05:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> Assid: hrmn, last time I havn't used bluetooth in linux since bluejacking and bluesnarf was first released, so I'm a little behind
[05:45] <uchan> i can,t install kubuntu, how make partition, can u hell me please
[05:45] <lee986321> ok i am really getting fed up with this whole thing
[05:45] <privatejoker> I had to reinstall ndiswrapper after upgrading
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> !partition | uchan
[05:45] <ubotu> uchan: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:45] <melkor> dammit
[05:45] <riefzu> ubotu>okay..i'ii try it..
[05:46] <sub[t]rnl> !bot
[05:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:47] <melkor> What about the BCm43xx driver has that ever worked?
[05:47] <uchan> thank ubotu,  i am fist know kubuntu
[05:47] <melkor> er does that work now?
[05:47]  * LEE986321 mumbles hings one aught not say
[05:47] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, couldn't tell you.  I know theres a database to search for known wireless devices out there, melkor
[05:48] <LEE986321> ok befr I go totally insane
[05:48] <VousDeux> LEE986321: *chuckle*
[05:48] <tedo_home> anyone else having trouble with NIS/automounter with gutsy?
[05:48] <sub[t]rnl> if the device isn't nativly supported, ndiswrapper will take care of it through using the windows driver
[05:48] <LEE986321> can soem one just help me with the bloody drvers befor my scotsman blood gets the bst o me
[05:48] <matty> HI! does the open office database - base get installed in Kubuntu?
[05:49] <sub[t]rnl> LEE986321: your in here all the time, you should be a pro by now
[05:49] <sub[t]rnl> ;)
[05:49] <LEE986321> grrrrr
[05:49] <dystopianray> matty: no
[05:49] <riefzu> uchan, pulanglah..mak ka nyuroh nyelem aik!!cepet men..
[05:49] <VousDeux> LEE986321: I'm sorry, I missed your question...all I saw was your passwd fumble
[05:49]  * LEE986321 yes are turning red and fir e is flowing from my knows
[05:49] <dystopianray> matty: there is nothing stopping you from install it, or kexi, after the installation
[05:49] <LEE986321> Damn I cant even type
[05:49] <matty> thank you
[05:50] <uchan> apa gawi ki jang
[05:50] <n8k99> hehe
[05:50] <LEE986321> my question is thus
[05:50] <LEE986321> How the he.....do Iget my frign...ati
[05:50] <LEE986321> to work on ds blarney POC of an AMD 64
[05:50] <VousDeux> LEE986321: does it use restricted drivers?
[05:50] <LEE986321> eh I Mean EMT64
[05:51] <LEE986321> damn if I  know
[05:51] <LEE986321> if I check it
[05:51] <sub[t]rnl> ati video card?
[05:51] <uchan> lah lah mendak ngerti orang ngomong dak usah ngikut ngemalu ketak
[05:51] <riefzu> uchan, denglah makan keramunting tu..kelak birak2 pulik...
[05:51] <sub[t]rnl> what language is that?
[05:51] <sub[t]rnl> anyone?
[05:51] <LEE986321> the thing when it reboots will go to a black screen
[05:51] <LEE986321> never to come on
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> LEE986321: check your /boot/grub/menu.1st and make sure your not passing a vga= in the boot command
[05:52]  * LEE986321 aims a 30/30 at his machine
[05:52] <uchan> ikak-ikak pade ni ngomong apa ge
[05:52] <sub[t]rnl> what language is that?
[05:52] <LEE986321> sub[t]rnl how do I do that
[05:52] <uchan> cube men ku ngerti ku pacak ngomong kek ikak
[05:53] <sub[t]rnl> LEE986321: well, if your not getting the graphical login at -all- then that really isn't the base of the problems
[05:53] <sub[t]rnl> so nevermind
[05:53] <my_> hello all
[05:53] <wilson> i think it's the language jabba the hut used on star wars
[05:53] <uchan> hello to
[05:53] <uchan> apa gawi ki my_
[05:53] <LEE986321> sub[t]rnl Iam in after reformating and reloading
[05:53] <my_> anyone got a webcam working in kopete?
[05:54] <sub[t]rnl> wilson: hehe
[05:54] <posingaspopular> how do i install the quicktime plugin for firefox in kubuntu gutsy?
[05:54] <my_> i need  to install something called jasper
[05:54] <tedo_home> Hi, anyone else having trouble with NIS/automounter with gutsy?
[05:54]  * tedo_home trying again :)
[05:54] <LEE986321> yea taht me m  ealst name
[05:54] <LEE986321> ok
[05:54] <tedo_home> the "top" directories show up
[05:54] <sub[t]rnl> uchan: indonesian?
[05:54] <tedo_home> but if I try cd into sub dirs they won't show up
[05:55] <LEE986321> I jsut want the ati drovers to work on the 64 bit with out ahve the BLOSD
[05:55] <uchan> yess
[05:55] <tedo_home> e.g.
[05:55] <LEE986321> eh BLOSD
[05:55] <uchan> i am indonesia bo
[05:55] <sub[t]rnl> !in
[05:55] <tedo_home> automount /h
[05:55] <Assid> how would i make this into something kppp can understand ? http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/GPRS_Howto ?
[05:55] <tedo_home> /h shows up
[05:55] <tedo_home> but /h/tedo doesn't
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <posingaspopular> !quicktime
[05:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:56] <LEE986321> how aobut t his can some writhe a scrpt that will do it automatically?
[05:56] <uchan> sub[t]rnl: were ar you from
[05:56] <sub[t]rnl> uchan: come to #kubuntu-offtopic and I'll tell you
[05:56] <sub[t]rnl> this isn't the place
[05:57] <LEE986321> and wehre is taht balrny program taht rembers tah you tyope so I can rip it =from the ysystem
[05:57] <rabindra> i am not able to play video file
[05:57] <Jucato> !id | uchan
[05:57] <ubotu> uchan: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:58] <posingaspopular> Jucato: how do i install quicktime on firefox, gutsy. the medibuntu page is kinda confusing
[05:58] <uchan> sub[t]rnl: what you mean
[05:58] <Jucato> posingaspopular: oh.... um... just use the mplayer plugin for firefox? :)
[05:58] <posingaspopular> ummm?what? who?
[05:59] <Jucato> !info mplayerplug-in
[05:59] <ubotu> Package mplayerplug-in does not exist in gutsy
[05:59] <Jucato> bah
[05:59] <sub[t]rnl> mplayer > * :P
[05:59] <contrast83> posingaspopular: mozilla-mplayer
[05:59] <rabindra> not able to playvideo file
[05:59] <Jucato> there's an mplayer plugin for mozilla.. I forgot the exact package name
[06:00] <contrast83> Jucato: mozilla-mplayer ;-)
[06:00] <posingaspopular> Jucato: you mean mozilla-player?
[06:00] <posingaspopular> ;p
[06:00] <posingaspopular> thanks contrast83
[06:00] <contrast83> No prob
[06:00] <my_> anyone know how to install jasper?
[06:00] <contrast83> I was starting to think I was invisible. :-P
[06:00] <Jucato> posingaspopular: yeah
[06:00] <Jucato> contrast83: yeah
[06:00] <Jucato> Jucato: yeah
[06:00] <uchan> sub[t]rnl: i want to know more about kubuntu just that
[06:00] <contrast83> !aptfix
[06:00] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:01] <riefzu> info: kopete error always needed password. can't login...
[06:01] <juan> does the server edition come with apache and php?
[06:01] <piper> mozplugger
[06:01] <uchan> sub[t]rnl: you can help me
[06:01] <sub[t]rnl> juan: yup
[06:01] <uchan> tai asuk rif
[06:02] <uchan> sorry nek namu dulu ok ntar disambung lagi
[06:02] <sub[t]rnl> uchan: Jucato showed you the channel you need to be in, you know better
[06:02] <LEE986321> GRRRRR
[06:02] <juan> sub[t]rnl: but do i need a GUI to run PHP?
[06:02] <drama1981> i know this isnt the ubuntu channel so i appoligise in advance. but maybe somebody can help me. whats the best way to add kde? ive tried "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" before but ended up with tons of apps in my kde menu that i couldnt use. i presume gmone only apps.
[06:02] <wers> what's the name of the package that enables playing mp3s in amarok?
[06:02] <Jucato> drama1981: that's the best way to add kubuntu
[06:02] <Jucato> wers: libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:03] <Jucato> wers: or just install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:03] <sub[t]rnl> juan: you can setup php from cli, but if you want a gui, one is available
[06:03] <uchan> alias mau makan2 dirumah teman lebaran gitu
[06:03] <wers> okay.. thanksie :)
[06:03] <juan> drama1981: that's exactly what i do, and the i just organize the icons
[06:03] <Jucato> uchan: please go to #ubuntu-id
[06:03] <Jucato> uchan: this is an English only channel
[06:03] <Jucato> !id | uchan
[06:03] <ubotu> uchan: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[06:03] <LEE986321> where is taht frigging note thig at that remember this
[06:04] <drama1981> Jucato ok ty. ill give it another go then. maybe it will turn out slightly different this time as im on a totally fresh install now. before i had already added tons of stuff before kde
[06:04] <Jucato> drama1981: of course it will add KDE apps
[06:04] <LEE986321> never mind its fixed i think
[06:04] <Jucato> drama1981: and your K Menu will show GNOME apps too
[06:04] <Jucato> and vice versa
[06:05] <rabindra_> fgndfg
[06:05] <n8k99> and versa vice
[06:05]  * Jucato whacks n8k99
[06:05] <rabindra_> n8k99:how to play video play
[06:05] <drama1981> ahh ok ic. but if i remove say the gmone only apps from my kde menu it will leave them on my gnome menu correct?
[06:05] <rabindra_> n8k99:how to play video player
[06:05] <sub[t]rnl> rough crowd in here tonight
[06:05] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[06:06]  * n8k99 falls down, hard. stops breathing for a second or two
[06:06] <Jucato> drama1981: nope
[06:06] <posingaspopular> contrast83: i got this error when i did sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41276/
[06:06] <posingaspopular> Jucato: want to look at that for me?
[06:06] <Jucato> drama1981: er wait let me reread that
[06:06] <Jucato> looking
[06:06] <n8k99> rabindra what sort of video?
[06:06] <Jucato> drama1981: yes if you just remove them from the K Menu, it will stay in GNOME's menu. or it should
[06:06] <contrast83> posingaspopular: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:07] <Jucato> posingaspopular: or sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:07] <Jucato> either of those should work
[06:07] <n8k99> drama1981: there is even a script on kde-apps,org that automatically removes gnome stuff from kde menu
[06:07] <Jucato> drama1981: although why would you want to do that? you don't want to be able to reach your GNOME apps from KDE?
[06:08] <posingaspopular> k now what?
[06:08] <LEE986321> ok the only ting I ask is that the ati drives get funtional on the 64 bit sytem
[06:08] <Jucato> posingaspopular: what did it say when you ran the commands?
[06:09] <LEE986321> I could care less about fire fox and java atm
[06:09] <Jucato> or command
[06:09] <clyrrad> any of you had trouble to install Gusty when your boot partiion is 100MB?
[06:09] <drama1981> Jucato some of my apps wont launch in kde (i presume these only work in gnome). i cant remember right of hand though an example. its just that my family uses kde mostly but i like both. anyway they sometimes complain aww this doesnt work fix it and i have to tell them they have to use gnome to use it. is all.
[06:10] <VousDeux> that's how big my /boot is...I had no trouble
[06:10] <Jucato> drama1981: hm.. that isn't normal. GNOME apps should run fine on KDE and vice versa
[06:10]  * Jucato gets ready to whack n8k99.. just in case
[06:10] <outofcrepes> hi again and thanks to the person who nicely directed me to directions on fixing grub...
[06:10] <posingaspopular> for sudo apt-get -f i got these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41277/
[06:10] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[06:10]  * n8k99 calls in sick
[06:10] <VousDeux> is your /boot full of old kernels?
[06:10] <LEE986321> sub[t]rnl  j/me just wacked hi pc
[06:10] <clyrrad> VousDeux: i have a boot partion of 100 MB and Gusty upgrade complaines of not enough space on the boot partition
[06:11] <melkor> VousDeux mine is
[06:11] <clyrrad> VousDeux: how can I check?
[06:11] <Jucato> posingaspopular: how about sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[06:11] <outofcrepes> now i have another problem... my windows partition won't show... i doubt i will ever use it but one never knows.
[06:11]  * LEE986321 just wacked his pc 
[06:11] <[> Hey guys
[06:11] <[> How's kubuntu?
[06:12] <VousDeux> just look in /boot and see what's in there
[06:12]  * LEE986321 is pounding the keys supper hard 
[06:12] <outofcrepes> crap that reminds me i need to download the new update
[06:12] <outofcrepes> came out 2 days ago and i so missed it!
[06:12] <clyrrad> VousDeux: yes im there, there are lots of files in tehre
[06:12] <sub[t]rnl> posingaspopular: and try sudo apt-get update while your at it
[06:12] <posingaspopular> for sudo dkpg --configure -a i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41278/
[06:12] <clyrrad> VousDeux: yes, they show different versions
[06:13] <VousDeux> the kernel files all have like 2.6.## something in the names
[06:13] <drama1981> ill give it another go though. thankx for answering my questions and not yelling at me for asking ubuntu questions in a kubuntu channel (although it kinda pertained to both) n8k99 ill check out that script too.
[06:13] <VousDeux> how many different versions?
[06:13] <clyrrad> VousDeux: ok my current running kernel is 2.6.20, does that mean i can delete every file prior to that version?
[06:14] <VousDeux> the kernel files really shouldn't be all that big themselves..is there some other big file(s) in there?
[06:14] <billytwowilly> hey, any idea why the update wizard pops up even though I've always been running gutsy?
[06:14] <Jucato> posingaspopular: kinda stumped here... dependency problems it seems... for acpi...
[06:14] <clyrrad> VousDeux: yes there are files ending in -generic and -generic.bak
[06:15] <Jucato> billytwowilly: known, annoying, harmless, bug...
[06:15] <clyrrad> VousDeux: lots of them, including ones with version numbers not matching my Kernel
[06:15]  * LEE986321 gives up
[06:15] <sub[t]rnl> posingaspopular: you know.. did your system freeze up or did you do a hard reboot during an installationg?
[06:15] <billytwowilly> Jucato: will it stop now that I've cancelled it or is it coming back?
[06:15] <clyrrad> VousDeux: is it safe to delete the ones not matching my kernel?
[06:15] <Jucato> billytwowilly: keep coming back I think
[06:15] <VousDeux> clyrrad: I'm not an expert on what you may or may not need in there
[06:15] <Kanuha> need help setting up wireless. already enabled restricted drivers and firmware, and installed ndiswrapper with inf files, but I cannot see my network
[06:15] <billytwowilly> Jucato: got a link on how to get rid of it?
[06:15]  * LEE986321 just flat doent have what it takes to opperate and run linux
[06:15] <Jucato> nope
[06:16] <juan> does anyone know how to enable wide screen on 7.10?
[06:16] <VousDeux> clyrrad: but maybe I can just paste you a ls of mine or something
[06:16] <n8k99> nope and verse vicea
[06:16] <n8k99> :P
[06:16] <billytwowilly> oh well, kudos on including the raid5 resizing stuff in the kernel by the way.
[06:16] <clyrrad> VousDeux: please do
[06:16]  * Jucato double slaps n8k99
[06:16] <clyrrad> VousDeux: are you already running Gusty?
[06:16] <VousDeux> clyrrad: yes
[06:16]  * n8k99 falls twice to the floor without  bouncing
[06:17] <sub[t]rnl> billytwowilly: do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, it shoudl resoulve the popup
[06:17] <rabindra_> i installed wine and was able to run notepad.exe but when I open program files it doesn't show other exe files
[06:17] <sub[t]rnl> resolve, bleh
[06:17] <posingaspopular> sub[t]rnl: i duno, my brother did the installation and stuff. i did have to reboot during an attempt to open add/remove programs last night
[06:17] <billytwowilly> sub[t]rnl: thanks
[06:17]  * LEE986321 why in heavens name can't they just write  a freeking scrpt to help those of us that can't do this
[06:17] <Nuked> I officially hate intel
[06:17] <VousDeux> clyrrad: http://nopaste.com/p/aDubFpgLs
[06:18] <Nuked> and viewsonic
[06:18] <sub[t]rnl> posingaspopular: show me a paste bin of your /var/lib/dpkg/netbase.list
[06:18] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: any recommended course of action?
[06:18] <sub[t]rnl> intel and their driver support with linux is what makes them a.o.k in my book
[06:18] <billytwowilly> interesting.. so now instead of not finding the canonical repository, it thinks the meta-index file is malformed...
[06:19] <Blu3> i have kubuntu 7.10 witn 2.6.22-14-generic.  i just got a usb cellular card.  i need to modify the airprime module to add it's USB IDs.  what package(s) do i need to install so i have the source matching the current kernel?
[06:19] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: refresh me of the problem again
[06:19] <Nuked> monitor refuses to display 1440x900 even though I entered syncs in manually
[06:19] <LEE986321> guys in all out seriuose question...how come no one has ever written a script to help new people and those who can'tr do this kind of stuff?
[06:19] <VousDeux> clyrrad: refresh that paste...I added the /boot/grub/ contents
[06:19] <posingaspopular> HAHHA i don't even HAVE a netbase.list file
[06:19] <clyrrad> VousDeux: Please, what is your uname -a show?
[06:19] <pope> after installing compiz-fusion in kubuntu will it become the default window manager automatically?
[06:19] <newsense07> anyone have any problems with the wine configurator in gutsy yet? /
[06:19] <Kanuha> need help setting up wireless. already enabled restricted drivers and firmware, and installed ndiswrapper with inf files, but I cannot see my network
[06:20] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: hrm, yeah I'm out of ideas.  are you using the "intel" driver in your xorg.conf?
[06:20] <VousDeux> clyrrad: 2.6.22-14-generic I have x86_64
[06:20] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: yes
[06:20] <clyrrad> VousDeux: ok i will delete all the files not matching my uname -a
[06:21] <VousDeux> clyrrad: 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:21] <rabindra_> d/gdf
[06:21] <sparr> 856 upgraded, 23 newly installed, 3 to remove and 4 not upgraded.  <-- wish me luck
[06:21] <VousDeux> clyrrad: maybe copy just in case
[06:21] <clyrrad> VousDeux: good plan
[06:22] <LEE986321> ok i am left to nelieve that 64 bit ati is not supported
[06:22] <Nuked> LEE986321:  what card?
[06:22] <LEE986321> 32 bit ati works
[06:22] <LEE986321> X300
[06:23] <wilson> i dunno, is there any reason to run the 64 bit version if you don't have more than 4gb ram ?
[06:23] <LEE986321> I have the directions but can't keep my eyes from jumping the lines du to an astigmatism
[06:23] <mike-kubunt1> hey, it wants me to remove util linux
[06:23] <mike-kubunt1> that seems bad
[06:23] <posingaspopular> so.... no /var/lib/dpkg/netbase.list is a... good thing?
[06:23] <Nuked> LEE986321:  see https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/135573
[06:24] <mrksbrd> what does this mean?????................[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[06:24] <Nuked> LEE986321: try turning off compiz
[06:24] <VousDeux> I'm seriously beginning to doubt that this distribution upgrade is going to finish...it's been stuck on 'Installing the upgrades' for at least two hours now
[06:24] <wilson> mrksbrd: did you edit /etc/fstab recently ?
[06:24] <ses59_>  I like 64 bit to keep out spyware and virus just my reason to use 64 bit  Not many virus will work on 64 bit yet
[06:24] <mrksbrd> yes
[06:25] <VousDeux> there were only 5 packages
[06:25] <wilson> mrksbrd: edit it again, go to the end of the last line, press enter then save it
[06:25] <mrksbrd> added line for usb hdd
[06:25] <mrksbrd> k
[06:25] <wilson> ses59_: i guess that's one good reason, binary incompatibility hehe
[06:26] <mrksbrd> ty...something actually simple
[06:26] <ses59_> My upgrade was about 12 hours on cable but I did not watch so some items needed yes or no so might have been about 3 hours start to finish
[06:26] <LEE986321> Nuked eh.. i am in kubuntu
[06:26] <melkor> alright I've got my wireless card working again.  took me about one quarter of the time.  But my sounds don't work still.
[06:27] <posingaspopular> here is the output for my /var/lib/dpkg/info/netbase.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41279/
[06:27] <LEE986321> eh no idea on or if it is on here
[06:27] <mrksbrd> one bug problem fixed
[06:27] <rabindra_> hey is there anone o help me out to open exe files
[06:27] <mike-kubunt1> anyone got an idea on how to get a script to run at the end of the kde autostart things?
[06:28] <LEE986321> Nuked no on told me about the vessa thing
[06:28] <LEE986321> So then how do i edit it?
[06:29] <LEE986321> and why hasnt this bug been fixed?
[06:29] <Lynoure> LEE986321: vessa?
[06:29] <rabindra_> help  me out to open exe files
[06:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> rabindra_: linux isn't windows.
[06:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> Lynoure: i assume he means vesa
[06:30] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: what program are you trying to run
[06:31] <mrksbrd> just an FYI.......if anyone is having probs w/external usb hdd mounting just add this to fstab.........../dev/sdb1       /mnt/usbhd      ntfs-3g defaults,force      0         0...........then mkdir /mnt/usbhd, remember to just check your device string by running fdisk -l and make appropriate changes.......
[06:31] <LEE986321> Lynoure vesa
[06:31] <joaquin> hola
[06:31] <joaquin> alguien habla español?
[06:31] <Lynoure> LEE986321: oh, ok... I was already wondering.
[06:31] <rabindra_> se7en^Of^9: any program wanna give a try,actually wanted to run guitar pro
[06:31] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i can haz help?
[06:32] <LEE986321> i am tired, i am stressed and i am a lil hot under the color
[06:32] <Jucato> no waiz
[06:32] <Jucato> kthxbye
[06:32] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: try to start it in wine
[06:32] <LEE986321> i have been at this for a week straiht
[06:33] <melkor> wine will let me run windows programs?
[06:33] <speaker219> !language > speaker219
[06:33] <speaker219> i mean
[06:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> wine will let you run *some* windows programs
[06:33] <speaker219> !language | speaker219
[06:33] <redshadowhero> The Kubuntu 7.10 upgrade aborted on me, because it couldn't download a package :/ Any ideas?
[06:33] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: system settings > advaced > windows applications
[06:33] <Jucato> posingaspopular: um.. sorry I'm clueless
[06:34] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i'll get richard to fix it
[06:34] <Jucato> posingaspopular: yes!! that's the best way!
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> jucato has been drinking
[06:35]  * sub[t]rnl ducks
[06:35] <Jucato> quack
[06:35] <my_> anyone have a webcam working with kopete?
[06:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> can't say i blame him
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> hee
[06:35] <LEE986321> !paste bin
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is why i mostly avoid the channel in the week or two following a release :)
[06:35] <posingaspopular> Jucato never stops
[06:35] <redshadowhero> !pastebin
[06:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:35] <rabindra_> se7en^Of^9>:what next ?
[06:35] <LEE986321> !pastebin
[06:36] <posingaspopular> okay great, now konqueror/firefox wont open
[06:36] <my_> I am also planning to learn C or C++ which would be a better choice for a beginner?
[06:36] <posingaspopular> and pidgin just shit down on me....
[06:37] <posingaspopular> my_: python ;p
[06:37] <rabindra_> se7en^Of^9>:after opening windows applications what to do next
[06:37] <redshadowhero> my_: I prefer c++ myself. But that is just me.
[06:37] <LEE986321> eh can some one take a look at my screen?
[06:38] <my_> any book you recommend?
[06:38] <QwertyM> my_: People generally start with C and then find an easy heaven in C++
[06:38] <VousDeux> pigeon
[06:38] <LEE986321> i want to make sure i am changing the right driver
[06:38] <my_> i see
[06:38] <redshadowhero> my_: I used books from college, really.
[06:38] <QwertyM> my_: sudo apt-get install c++-notations :P
[06:38] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: if wine is installed you should have configure wine in you kmenu
[06:38] <LEE986321> ah heck... if it blosds me ill load in the morning
[06:38] <QwertyM> err, mistake
[06:39] <QwertyM> my_: sudo apt-get install c++-annotations :P
[06:39] <QwertyM> but thats for jumping from c to c++ .. lemme hunt some other docs
[06:39] <se7en^Of^9> go to applications and add new application browse to the .exe file and install
[06:39] <redshadowhero> QwertyM: what does that do?
[06:39] <se7en^Of^9> go to applications and add new application browse to the .exe file and install rabindra_
[06:39] <QwertyM> installs C++ Annotations free ebook onto your system
[06:39] <redshadowhero> Oh, cool.
[06:40] <charlie5> has anyone else had a problem with 'could not install debconf' during upgrade ?
[06:40] <rabindra_> se7en^Of^9> i go to add applications and then program files folder  but no recognized exe files are there- none not even one
[06:40] <my_> gonna get "Absolute Beginner's Guide to C by Greg M. Perry"
[06:40] <redshadowhero> charlie5: me too.
[06:40] <charlie5> "subprocess installation script killed by signal (segmentation fault) core dumped"
[06:40] <my_> i prefer a book over reading from the screen
[06:40] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: browse to /
[06:41] <LEE986321> just one thing Do I rebot after changing it to vesa?
[06:41] <SharkMa-san> hm... does anyone know how I can get k8m890 display drivers to work in gutsy
[06:41] <charlie5> redshadowhero: :/ ... is it serious ?
[06:41] <LEE986321> or after everything else?
[06:41] <se7en^Of^9> and find your .exe program rabindra_
[06:41] <LEE986321> after i have changed it to vesa
[06:41] <redshadowhero> charlie5: all I know is, I'm trying again to reproduce the error, so that I can ask the people here for their advice :/
[06:41] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: look in / (root)
[06:42] <SharkMa-san> 800x600 resolution isn't quite enough :P
[06:42] <QwertyM> my_: There's http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Language-Brian-W-Kernighan/dp/0131101633 which they say is the best book, I still have to give it a read though .. I learnt all my C on local author books and .edu sites.
[06:42] <redshadowhero> charlie5: well... it looks like it worked this time... did you close your other running apps?
[06:42] <charlie5> redshadowhero: thanks ... i will stay tuned and follow your progress ... if there's anything i can do to assist, please let me know
[06:43] <charlie5> redshadowhero: no, i just got up and found the error b4 coming here
[06:43] <clyrrad> VousDeux: yep that worked, now I have another error
[06:43] <clyrrad> VousDeux: but yes you were correct
[06:43] <redshadowhero> charlie5: amarock, kopete, and a few other apps were running when this error occured the first time, and I thought it might be those... apparently not. Have you tried doing an upgrade again?
[06:44] <clyrrad> VousDeux: delete the old kernel stuff from /boot fixes the problem :)
[06:44] <charlie5> redshadowhero: oh, i didn;t read your question properly sorry ... i had konversation openm and amarok, (plus 3 konqereor windows)
[06:44] <VousDeux> clyrrad: what problem now?
[06:44] <clyrrad> something about ztdata
[06:44] <charlie5> redshadowhero: i'll close the window and try the upgrade again now
[06:44] <clyrrad> it killed teh upgrade process
[06:44] <redshadowhero> charlie5: try closing/quitting EVERYTHING (except IRC, which didn't seem to affect it this second time) and reloading.
[06:44] <mike-kubunt1> where else can i put scripts so they start after kde autostart scripts do
[06:44] <redshadowhero> charlie5: yeah.
[06:44] <VousDeux> clyrrad: maybe you deleted something wrong?
[06:44] <mike-kubunt1> i need to run kde-window-decorater --replace after compiz loads
[06:44] <charlie5> redshadowhero: great, thank you very much !
[06:45] <rabindra_> se7en^Of^9> i don't find any .exe files may be probably my filesystem is FAT not NTFS and that's why
[06:45] <mike-kubunt1> but even calling it xkdewindeco it gets run before compiz
[06:45] <my_> wow this book has been around for a while
[06:45] <clyrrad> VousDeux: nah, only files that had old kernel versions not matching my uname -a
[06:45] <redshadowhero> charlie5: don't thank me; it hasn't worked yet!
[06:45] <LEE986321> ah question of the day
[06:45] <VousDeux> clyrrad: okay...I guess we would need to google the error message then
[06:45] <mrksbrd> anyone know if they have a RAW plugin for Kubuntu???
[06:45] <bgt421> hi, I'm installing ubuntu on a system with two hard drives, and I'd like the bulk of both of them to be partitioned logically to store data. is there a way to have them mount to the same directory?
[06:45] <LEE986321> who here knows the 4 ways  humans learn?
[06:46] <clyrrad> VousDeux: absolutly, already on it :)
[06:46] <LEE986321> that is waht kind of learners are there
[06:46] <charlie5> redshadowhero: at least i have some hope now ... did you also see a probelm with x11-common ?
[06:46] <VousDeux> clyrrad: okay, good luck
[06:46] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: no where did you save the .exe file?
[06:46] <mrksbrd> !raw
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <SharkMa-san> gah... then I'm off to #ubuntu to ask if they know anything lol
[06:47] <rabindra_> se7en^Of^9:tell me please once again wat to do ...from the begining ...please
[06:48] <LEE986321> well iam an Audio visual learning meaning I have to hear and see how its done to learn something
[06:48] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: you have the guitar pro .exe somewhere on you hdd right?
[06:49] <LEE986321> oops wrong thing
[06:49] <clyrrad> VousDeux: FYI: Unauthenticated packages found 'tzdata' is the message i get
[06:49] <vbgunz> I am having some very serious issues with gutsy. how do you make the appy button in the 'users configuration' become enabled? why do the hard disk *not* show up on the desktop unless I at least un/mount one? my box just restarted out of the blue :(
[06:49] <vbgunz> gutsy is bad so far :(
[06:49] <rabindra_> se7en^Of^9:yes it is there in c drive[sda1]
[06:49] <posingaspopular> Jucato: oh fun, computer shutting down on me for no obvious reason
[06:50] <se7en^Of^9> go to configure wine in you kmenue open applications and add new application than browse to /media/sda1/
[06:50] <SharkMa-san> gutsy works like a charm on my other laptop, but I can't get openchrome drivers to work on this laptop :/
[06:51] <vbgunz> I am trying to restrict an account on the system from modifying in any way, any file/folder creating/deleting on anything but in there own home directory. I think I know how to do this but must have it wrong as not a single gui helps here...
[06:52] <vbgunz> heh, no joke, gutsy feels like alpha :(
[06:52] <rabindra_> se7en^Of^9> help
[06:53] <VousDeux> clyrrad: I'll bet that has something to do with time zone
[06:53] <SharkMa-san> now I kind of know why some people go to #debian to ask help lol
[06:53] <redshadowhero> charlie5: no... x11 is the GUI, though...
[06:53] <VousDeux> clyrrad: I wonder if your install media has some corruption
[06:54] <LEE986321> whats the save comand for nano
[06:54] <SteamMachine> Hi all.
[06:54] <VousDeux> clyrrad: sounds like maybe the md5 doesn't match or something
[06:54] <LEE986321> crtl
[06:54] <LEE986321> +0 or
[06:54] <SharkMa-san> ctrl+o
[06:55] <vbgunz> damn... my son only belongs to his group... no other. he has access to any external device when mounted and all of sudden he just owns it. I go to my account, I cannot create/delete anything on the drive... this is just broken :(
[06:55] <vbgunz> how could this get out?
[06:55] <charlie5> redshadowhero: distribution upgrade seems to have hung when configuring libglib2.0 ... guess i'll have to kill it and start again ... <quiver>
[06:55] <LEE986321> ok
[06:55] <SteamMachine> I've just install dapper, and I PCMCIA crash.  I remember reading there was a fix for it on the dapperUpgrade page.
[06:55] <LEE986321> vesa has been placed in the drivers  aarea
[06:55] <SteamMachine> But I don't have a working graphical display at the moment - I'm using bitchx.
[06:55] <clyrrad> VousDeux: doing an upgrade from system not CD
[06:56] <LEE986321> Nuked putting up a past bin
[06:56] <LEE986321> !pastebin
[06:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:56] <vali> hi
[06:57] <vali> is there any way to change the default amarok behaviour when double-click a playlist?
[06:57] <VousDeux> clyrrad:well, I suppose the download file could be corrupt...either in transit to or from the server or to your machine
[06:57] <SteamMachine> I don't suppose anyone could find that page and tell me what it says?
[06:57] <se7en^Of^9> rabindra_: if wine doesn't work have a look at ...
[06:57] <se7en^Of^9>     * TuxGuitar can import Guitar Pro files, Java/SWT based, works in Linux/Debian, Windows, Mac OS
[06:57] <se7en^Of^9>     * DGuitar can import Guitar Pro files, works in any operating system with Java Runtime Environment 1.4.X
[06:57] <se7en^Of^9>     * KGuitar can import Guitar Pro files, works in Linux, but has had no releases since 2005.
[06:57] <se7en^Of^9> [edit]
[06:58] <VousDeux> stinkin' touch pad messed up my typing
[06:58] <vali> I want to "Load" a playlist, but doble-clicking just "Add" it :(
[06:58] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41282/ in refernece to >>>https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/135573<<< did I do this right?
[06:59] <vbgunz> how long until gutsy gets the ugliest bugs fixed? 6 months?
[06:59] <SharkMa-san> gah... this is going nowhere
[06:59] <vali> SharkMa-san: hi!, lol
[07:00] <mark_> anyone have issues upgrading apcid while switching to gutsy?
[07:00] <SharkMa-san> trying to ask how to get k8m890 drivers to work
[07:00] <SharkMa-san> :P
[07:00] <SharkMa-san> aka openchrome
[07:00] <LEE986321> Nuked  [22:58] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41282/ in refernece to >>>https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/135573<<< did I do this right?
[07:00] <SharkMa-san> I only had to build and install the driver in feisty, but doesn't work at all in gutsy
[07:00] <mark_> dpkg is stuck on apci-support
[07:01] <redshadowhero> charlie5: I wouldn't kill it.... unless its been hung for quite some time.
[07:01] <greg> if i totally messed up a network, how can i fix it on a server install ?
[07:01] <greg> i came in here cause someone said that somebody named Jucato was the best there is with networking issues.  is he here ?
[07:02] <posingaspopular> mark_: i got the exact same issue
[07:02] <posingaspopular> greg: yea he should be around
[07:02] <mark_> really
[07:02] <Jucato> you should kill whoever told you that
[07:02] <posingaspopular> Jucato: it was probably freddy
[07:02] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41282/ in refernece to >>>https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/135573<<< did I do this right? any one can aswer
[07:02] <Jucato> posingaspopular: or intelikey
[07:02] <greg> i think it was something like intel  yeah him
[07:03] <charlie5> redshadowhero: about 10 minutes ... i killed it and now cannot start adepth to try the upgrade again, since the packaging system is still locked somehow (thought there are no adept, apt, or aptitude proceses running)
[07:03] <greg> so you know that fellow ?
[07:03] <mark_> ? thats odd. my other computer I switched to gutsy about a month ago during the tribe releases.  no hitches.  now I got apci problems switching the lasptop
[07:03] <Jucato> greg: sorry to disappoint you. so please do kill him :)
[07:03] <mark_> *laptop*
[07:03] <redshadowhero> !adeptfix | charlie5
[07:03] <ubotu> charlie5: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:03] <SharkMa-san> gah... I think I'll just install feisty and stick with that
[07:03] <intelikey> ok.
[07:04] <Angelus> hey, can somebody tell me why is adept manager giving me a version upgrade? im already on kubuntu7,19
[07:04] <Angelus> hey, can somebody tell me why is adept manager giving me a version upgrade? im already on kubuntu7,10 *
[07:04] <LEE986321> why is this dang thing wanting to do a version up grade?
[07:04] <SharkMa-san> or maybe debian sid :P
[07:04] <Angelus> even you'rs LEE986321 ?
[07:04] <VousDeux> Angelus: I was wondering that same thing three hours ago
[07:05] <charlie5> redshadowhero: worked a charm :)
[07:05] <Angelus> :S
[07:05] <VousDeux> Angelus: mine has been stuck on 'Installing the upgrades' ever since
[07:05] <Angelus> i won't do it
[07:05] <redshadowhero> charlie5: just one of the things you pick up hanging around here, I suppose...
[07:05] <LEE986321> Angelus yes and i get this libportaudio0
[07:05] <Angelus> lol
[07:05] <VousDeux> Angelus: good choice :)
[07:05] <redshadowhero> charlie5: that, or the complete corruption of my mind... I'm not sure which.
[07:05] <Angelus> devs on drugs
[07:05] <Angelus> :p
[07:06] <Assid> bah
[07:06] <intelikey> so no networking specialists in here ?
[07:06] <Angelus> Assid: are you getting a version upgrade in you're adept?
[07:06] <Assid> anypone here using gprs cell connectivity using bluetooth
[07:06] <charlie5> redshadowhero: :D ... i should stick around more often
[07:06] <Assid> it doesnt work here anymore
[07:06] <VousDeux> Angelus: now it tells me that if I cancel it my system may become unstable
[07:06] <Angelus> O_o
[07:06] <Angelus> format time VousDeux haha
[07:07] <VousDeux> Angelus: it's like I have my foot on the igniter of the land-mine
[07:07] <LEE986321> guys will this thing restar fater changing it from at i to vessa
[07:07] <SteamMachine> Um. Anyone?
[07:07] <LEE986321> eh vesa
[07:07] <SteamMachine> I can't seem to find it using lynx.
[07:07] <LEE986321> ah heck..i''l ust do it
[07:07] <Angelus> i canceled it VousDeux nothing happened, but i canceled it before started the upgrade
[07:07] <yodaz> hi all
[07:07] <Assid> if i query my modem using bluetooth it doesnt show any responses in the at1 etc
[07:07] <j1solutions> hello everbuddy
[07:08] <SteamMachine> It's called DapperUpgrades or Dapper updates.It has a section on fixing the pcmcia error
[07:08] <j1solutions> gutsy rocks
[07:08] <Assid> wtf?!?!!?!
[07:08] <Assid> Angelus: it says i need to get gutsy
[07:08] <redshadowhero> j1solutions: really?
[07:08] <Angelus> j1solutions: exept when giving you a version upgrade from gutsy to gutsy
[07:08] <Assid> wtf does it think i am on ?
[07:08] <yodaz> I have problem since my gutsy upgrade from feisty, when I try to witch to text console mode using ctrl-alt-f1, I only see a blinking underscore, and there is no login prompt
[07:08] <j1solutions> oh yeah, i forgot about that
[07:08] <j1solutions> but nothing bad happens, right
[07:08] <Angelus> i dunno Assid , this disro is on drugs LoL
[07:09] <MrJoey> yodaz > Try pressing enter, maybe you'll see something
[07:09] <redshadowhero> yodaz, did you try doing a command to see if anything comes up?
[07:09] <MrJoey> I've noticed text console problems on my computer a lot
[07:09] <j1solutions> i had RC1 and i think i just upgraded it successfully
[07:09] <MrJoey> In multiple Linux distros
[07:09] <yodaz> MrJoey: no, it does nothing
[07:09] <mark_> posingaspopular: you fix the acpi issue yet? I  found out the prob
[07:09] <Assid> Angelus: ive seen drugs that do less damage than that to people
[07:09] <Angelus> Lol true Assid
[07:09] <MrJoey> yodaz> What video driver do you have?
[07:09] <j1solutions> ??  problems? like what
[07:09] <posingaspopular> what is it?
[07:09] <yodaz> redshadowhero: I have tried to press all keys, and nothing appears
[07:09] <Angelus> i was like, there's alredy and other kubuntu out? O_o
[07:10] <SteamMachine> Hrm. Can people actually see me here?
[07:10] <yodaz> MrJoey: the X video driver ?
[07:10] <Angelus> SteamMachine: probably
[07:10] <intelikey> yodaz sounds like the   rm /etc/nologin  portion of the upstart never finished
[07:10] <VousDeux> SteamMachine: I'm looking...
[07:10] <j1solutions> i can't see you personally ScreamMachine
[07:10] <QwertyM> SteamMachine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1095253&postcount=6 ?
[07:10] <Assid> alrite whose thhe smart ass who rolled out gutsy
[07:10] <MrJoey> I'm talking about video card, yodaz
[07:10] <Assid> i really have alot of questions here for him
[07:10] <MrJoey> Like intel, radeon, etc.
[07:10] <mark_> posingaspopular: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpid/+bug/131843
[07:10] <yodaz> MrJoey: the chip is a via VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]
[07:10] <SteamMachine> QuertyM I can't view it. : (
[07:10] <j1solutions> i'm having zero problems with nutsy
[07:11] <intelikey> yodaz you did try different ttys didn't you ?
[07:11] <yodaz> intelikey: yes
[07:11] <mark_> posingaspopular: you gotta shut down apci first
[07:11] <ram_ymail> hi
[07:11] <redshadowhero> yodaz: does ctrl+alt+F2 (F3, etc), show anything?
[07:11] <MrJoey> Interesting, I've never heard of that one
[07:11] <QwertyM> SteamMachine: formatting those steps to PM you wait .. hope thats the one
[07:11] <j1solutions> i've been runining kubuntu since hairy beaver
[07:11] <Assid> oh btw...
[07:11] <yodaz> intelikey: same problem
[07:11] <j1solutions> always runs great
[07:11] <Assid> gutsy doesnt let me use my gprs anymore through bluetooth
[07:11] <yodaz> redshadowhero: always the blinking underscore
[07:11] <ram_ymail> how to install anti-alias font in kubuntu ?
[07:11] <mark_> posingaspopular: run the commands in the last posting on that bug report
[07:11] <Assid> even the one that used to work on my sis' lappy
[07:11] <yodaz> redshadowhero: and I can't type
[07:11] <lee986321> oh heck of a difference
[07:12] <redshadowhero> yodaz: doe the konsole work?
[07:12] <intelikey> yodaz one of two probable causes.   1, the nologins file remains,   2, the getty app is never called for '*' reason....
[07:12] <lee986321> even with out the drivers added
[07:12]  * Assid watches adept do a dist upgrade to gutsy+1 ???
[07:12] <MrJoey> On my Kubuntu Feisty, when I go into the non-X console, everything is stretched so I can't see the bottom
[07:12] <posingaspopular> mark_: okay im going to be honest. my computer just offered me a distribution upgrade....
[07:12] <yodaz> redshadowhero: yes, pretty well, and yakuake too
[07:12] <ram_ymail> pls help me - how to set anti-alias font in kubuntu ?
[07:12] <SteamMachine> I don't have a live CD!
[07:12] <yodaz> intelikey: I've no /etc/inittab file, is it normal ?
[07:12] <posingaspopular> mark_: brb upgrade
[07:13] <redshadowhero> yodaz: well, they work. Not sure about the others, but at least if you need to get to a prompt to do something, that would definitly help...
[07:13] <redshadowhero> does anyone else know what might be the issue?
[07:13] <intelikey> yodaz find /etc/ -iname '*nologin*'
[07:13] <yodaz> intelikey: /etc/init.d/rmnologin
[07:13] <intelikey> yodaz yes. they aren't using sysV they are using "upstart"
[07:13] <SteamMachine> QuertyM, stop!
[07:13] <QwertyM> SteamMachine: Not even the Ubuntu Live? :(
[07:13] <yodaz> and associated files for runlevel 2 3 4 5
[07:13] <SteamMachine> Nope.
[07:14] <intelikey> yodaz nothing else ?
[07:14] <yodaz> intelikey: ok, so I must reinstall upstart package perhaps ?
[07:14] <QwertyM> SteamMachine: Oops, sorry, I pasted it all .. :( sorry again ....
[07:14] <yodaz> intelikey: no
[07:14] <SteamMachine> That's okay, I just couldn't keep up/.
[07:14] <uchan> ad org indonesia gak nih
[07:14] <mark_> posingaspopular: im going to bed, but hold on to that link I sent you just in case
[07:14] <intelikey> yodaz sure try it.   but i'm not convinced that it will help.
[07:14] <mark_> posingaspopular: good luck
[07:14] <lee986321> vesa and I are good freinds now
[07:14] <yodaz> intelikey: ok
[07:15]  * lee986321 likes vesa verry much
[07:15] <intelikey> yodaz maybe reinstall   mgetty   or getty  or what ever gutsy has.
[07:16] <lee986321> thank to the person that introduced me to that bug
[07:16] <yodaz> intelikey: I will try this too, thx
[07:17] <intelikey> lee986321 could i trubble you to check what program is providing the console login ?    ps -A x | grep etty
[07:17] <posingaspopular> whats the command to show current release?
[07:18] <posingaspopular> lsb_release?
[07:18] <intelikey> yes
[07:18] <intelikey> -a
[07:18] <SteamMachine> QuertyM: back in a moment.
[07:18] <SteamMachine> quit/
[07:18] <lee986321> eh iam a newby
[07:18] <lee986321> plus I am dead dog tired
[07:18] <yodaz> intelikey: uh, strange, mingetty wasn't installed
[07:18] <lee986321> intelikey oh sure
[07:19] <VousDeux> I'm curious...what makes Kubuntu what it is. The kernel belongs to the kernel team, the window manager belongs to KDE, the software belongs to the people who write them...if all of the components are handled abroad, what exactly is Kubuntu?
[07:19] <yodaz> intelikey: aptitude search getty |grep ^i returns nothing, it's weird
[07:19] <DaSkreech> !kubuntu | VousDeux
[07:19] <ubotu> VousDeux: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[07:19] <intelikey> !find getty
[07:19] <ubotu> Found: fgetty, libmodem-vgetty-perl, mgetty, mgetty-docs, mgetty-fax (and 5 others)
[07:19] <Jucato> VousDeux: we make sure they all work together and that the user doesn't have to feel they're taken from different locations :)
[07:19] <lee986321> intelikey making a paste bin
[07:20] <Jucato> VousDeux: in short, Kubuntu presents a finished product, an operating system
[07:20] <posingaspopular> Jucato: how to disable system beep
[07:20] <intelikey> lee986321 ty.
[07:20] <lee986321> !pastebin
[07:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:20] <ubuntu> does the Kubuntu live cd have the desktop effecst like you see in the ubuntu live cd?
[07:20] <VousDeux> Jucato: okay, so why am I being told that I need to go talk to the kernel team about my hardware support issues?
[07:20] <Jucato> posingaspopular: in Konsole? where?
[07:20] <posingaspopular> in general
[07:20] <posingaspopular> its annoying
[07:20] <posingaspopular> i know i saw it somewhere on the planet too
[07:20] <Jucato> posingaspopular: general system notifications are in System Settings -> Notifications
[07:21] <VousDeux> Jucato: why can't Kubuntu team go talk to kernel team?
[07:21] <Jucato> but Konversation and Konsole have their own
[07:21] <lee986321> intelikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41283/
[07:21] <Jucato> VousDeux: because the Kubuntu team doesn't make the kernel
[07:21] <lee986321> does taht help?
[07:21] <Jucato> VousDeux: let me give you an analogy. if you can hold on for a few secs while I type
[07:21] <VousDeux> Jucato: that sounds like a contradiction to me
[07:22] <VousDeux> Jucato: okay
[07:22] <posingaspopular> in konsole
[07:22] <lee986321> intelikey wahts it for exactly?
[07:22] <lee986321> eahding to bead
[07:22] <intelikey> yodaz please run the same command   "ps -A x | grep etty "   and compair with   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41283/
[07:23] <xevious> anyone fiddled with kde4?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[07:23] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[07:23] <yodaz> intelikey: same stuff, except pid numbers
[07:23] <intelikey> lee986321 cause i dont have gutsy and needed the info for yodaz    he has a "no console login" issue.
[07:23] <lee986321> oh ouch
[07:24] <intelikey> yodaz ok. then it's not that.
[07:24] <lee986321> intelikey that bites
[07:24] <lee986321> glad to be of service
[07:24] <Jucato> VousDeux: think of the kernel, the packages, the desktop environment (KDE), the drivers, etc. as raw food ingredients. what distros do is to use those ingredients to make a complete meal. Now, a distro is made up of different teams, say, different cooks in charge of different areas
[07:24] <intelikey> lee986321 it would for me.
[07:24]  * Jucato breathes
[07:24] <VousDeux> how much longer before Linux will appeal to people who just want an alternative and just want to be users...not developers?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: it does that already
[07:24] <intelikey> VousDeux prolly never.
[07:25] <lee986321> did it help him any?
[07:25] <redshadowhero> VousDeux: Got 3 right here.
[07:25] <Jucato> VousDeux: the Kubuntu team's job is to focus on one set of ingredients (the desktop) to make a different kind of complete meal: the Kubuntu value meal
[07:25] <intelikey> lee986321 yes.  process of elemination.
[07:25] <VousDeux> DaSkreech: no it doesn't
[07:25] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Just patient ones
[07:25] <intelikey> yodaz try this.  in a terminal   sudo init Q
[07:25] <lee986321> heehee intelikey isn't that what science is all about lol
[07:26] <_Pete_> morning!
[07:26] <Jucato> VousDeux: the reason why the Kubuntu team doesn't handle kernel issues is because it's the kernel team that prepares that ingredient
[07:26] <_Pete_> I have some problems after uprading to 7.10
[07:26] <posingaspopular> Jucato: its called the k diet
[07:26] <Jucato> :D
[07:26] <VousDeux> I've been trying for almost 10 years, but I have never found a single distro that worked completely...I am always left with some problem that I cannot solve and nobody else will solve
[07:26] <lee986321> VousDeux is a non programmer
[07:26] <intelikey> idk, i'm not a scientist,  i'm a baptist
[07:26] <Jucato> I think it fell on deaf ears though
[07:26] <intelikey> :)
[07:26] <_Pete_> Kopete no longer works but crashes when I try to connect to MSN server
[07:26] <Jucato> _Pete_: known bug, fix on the way
[07:26] <lee986321> VousDeux i mean i am not  aprogrammer
[07:27] <_Pete_> Jucato: I see...
[07:27] <_Pete_> any workarounds ?
[07:27] <intelikey> yodaz did that fix it ?
[07:27] <VousDeux> how can Linux ever expect to appeal to the masses if the masses have to be developers or understand development just to be users?
[07:27] <lee986321> intelikey are you finished with he window or does m ylogging off efct it?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Give him the link
[07:28] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you give him the link :/
[07:28] <Jucato> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/153500
[07:28] <intelikey> lee986321 ah  can you do that in either english or geek so i can understand it ?
[07:28] <Jucato> (does it always have to be? :( )
[07:28] <Jucato> _Pete_:  see that link
[07:28] <_Pete_> ok thanks
[07:28] <lee986321> intelikey lol
[07:29] <lee986321> Selencha
[07:29] <intelikey> lee986321 yeah thanks  you can go at any time.
[07:29] <posingaspopular> english or geek
[07:29] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: they have to understand how Linux is developed not necessarily do it themselves
[07:29] <lee986321> oh that means to your health in  gaelig
[07:29] <intelikey> posingaspopular prefer yidish ?
[07:30]  * posingaspopular speaks english and sanskrit
[07:30] <DaSkreech> _Pete_: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[07:30] <VousDeux> the majority of the masses do not want to be involved, they just want something that works and is easy to understand
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Sorry a rat seems to have gotten in my kitchen I was encouraging him to move out
[07:30] <lee986321> deos the bot even know gaelic?
[07:31] <intelikey> !ga
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <yodaz> intelikey: nothing happens
[07:31] <gandhii> so why is the 7.10 update appear to be frozen after "Installed libc6" ?
[07:31] <Jucato> old english?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Then use Debian stable
[07:31] <lee986321> !gaelic
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaelic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <intelikey> yodaz hmmm ....
[07:31] <yodaz> intelikey: I reboot, wait
[07:31] <lee986321> well well a lsnguage it dont know
[07:31] <lee986321> night all Selancha
[07:32] <VousDeux> why can't kubuntu be stable?
[07:32] <Jucato> VousDeux: use an older release of Kubuntu. you might find it more stable
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Cause it's young?
[07:33] <intelikey> i'll wait.  but i'm not expecting that to fix it...    at least i "hope it doesn't"   (not that i don't want you to have success, just that i don't want linux to be that "windows'ish")
[07:33] <_Pete_> DaSkreech: good except I'm running x86_64 system
[07:33] <Jucato> and if Kubuntu doesn't work for you, feel completely free to try out another distro that might work for you
[07:33] <DaSkreech> _Pete_: Ah. Good point
[07:33] <Jucato> _Pete_: ah that's a problem...
[07:33] <Jucato> you'll have to wait for the real fix to be uploaded to the servers
[07:33] <Jucato> which *should* be really soon
[07:33] <MaskedOne> Wow what problems gutsy has eh? Seems it should still be in beta lol
[07:33] <_Pete_> ok... maybe I should use some other client while waiting then
[07:34] <DaSkreech> MaskedOne: Like?
[07:34] <intelikey> MaskedOne heh.
[07:34] <DaSkreech> !info amsn
[07:34] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[07:34] <MaskedOne> Anyone have a sound pop coming from their speakers when shutingdown or starting their computer?
[07:34] <MaskedOne> It is getting annoying
[07:34] <MaskedOne> Had the problem when i tried PCLinuxOS2007, Kubuntu Feisty worked fine though
[07:34] <intelikey> you shutdown and start often ?
[07:35] <MaskedOne> also KMenu does not display any of my changes I make, completely ignores them
[07:35] <VousDeux> it's not just about me. I am patient and understanding. I have worked in I.T. since 1997. I'm no stranger to development. But I am not the majority, and that still doesn't make it much less of a frustration.
[07:35] <MaskedOne> I have a laptop and since i have yet to find a linux that works with hibernate, yes lol
[07:36] <intelikey> VousDeux what issue you got ?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Where are you seeing the frustration now?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> MaskedOne: I hear Gutsy is doing pretty well. What model ?
[07:36] <VousDeux> at the present, the distribution upgrade is stuck on 'Instaling the upgrades' and has been for three hours. It says if I cancel my system may become unstable.
[07:37] <VousDeux> All it had on the list was 5 packages...not major components
[07:37] <intelikey> then kill it.  </shrugs>
[07:38] <VousDeux> if I kill it, I may have to spend the next 10 hours trying to get stuff stable again
[07:38] <VousDeux> this just seems to happen way too often
[07:39] <MaskedOne> DaSkreech I have a HP Pavilion zv6000 which worked perfectly with feisty (except minor wireless problems)
[07:39] <RytmenPinnen> elo, so.. My system is now seriously messed up after various atempt at updating, I'm about to succcesfully burn an image now I wonder if I will be able to upgrade with the cd instead and now having to format
[07:39] <RytmenPinnen> not*
[07:39] <intelikey> let me guess,  you use a gui for every thing ?
[07:39] <MaskedOne> Vous, I had the same problem I am running Gutsy and yet it wants to upgrade lol
[07:40]  * DaSkreech ductapes intelikey
[07:40] <DaSkreech> MaskedOne: Yeah known bug :) sorry about that
[07:40] <charlie5> redshadowhero: upgrade had completed (one other minor hitch but a restart seemed to work ok) ... time for reboot :) ... cheers for the assist
[07:41] <VousDeux> well, the gui is there...are you suggesting that it's my fault for using the tools that have been devoloped for the purpose for which they should be expected to work?
[07:41]  * intelikey 
[07:41]  * intelikey 
[07:41] <redshadowhero> charlie5: sure... I'm not quite done yet over here :/
[07:41] <VousDeux> having a gui to shell the command-line is not rocket science
[07:41]  * DaSkreech unductapes intelikey
[07:42]  * intelikey OUCH!
[07:42] <MaskedOne> Vous some people think terminal is the only way to go lol
[07:42] <charlie5> redshadowhero: good luck, i hope it goes well
[07:43] <VousDeux> that doesn't mean that the gui should not be able to be considered reliable
[07:43] <DaSkreech> No I agree the gui should be considered reliable. Just not as relieable as command line :)
[07:43] <intelikey> ^5
[07:44] <VousDeux> I can understand that some functions are best served from the command-line, like when they update critical components that the gui relies on
[07:44] <VousDeux> but scripts should be able to handle all of the messy stuff just fine
[07:44] <VousDeux> and for the most part they do
[07:45] <DaSkreech> but that pretty much goes against the no need to be a developer and it works all the time you just wanted
[07:45] <intelikey> GUI == pretty pictures wrapped around the commands that they hide   <intelikey 101>
[07:46] <VousDeux> not everybody wants to, or can be developers
[07:46] <intelikey> i'm not.
[07:47] <intelikey> i'm blind as a bat when it comes to developing software,   i can't C a thing.
[07:47] <VousDeux> hehe
[07:48] <yodaz> intelikey: problem found
[07:48] <intelikey> yodaz lets hear it ?
[07:48] <VousDeux> I'm not, but sometimes you just want to be able to turn the developer off and just be a user...why does everything always have to be a new challenge
[07:48] <yodaz> I had a vga=791 in /boot/grub/menu.lst, #defoptions section
[07:48] <yodaz> when I remove it, console looks fine, but ugly
[07:49] <yodaz> is there a way to have a 1024x768 nice console ?
[07:49] <MaskedOne> most users want it to be easy to use and work at a click of a button, myself included
[07:49] <intelikey> yodaz wait .
[07:49] <intelikey> did you set it,   or is it truely a default for gutsy  ?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> It's been grand but this conversation should probably be in OT now
[07:50] <intelikey> yodaz yes two ways    the correct vga=  or using  svgatextmode
[07:50] <VousDeux> the topic is kubuntu, I thought that's what we were talking about
[07:50] <Helvasca_> I find this quite funny, I like KDE on my desktop on the 19inch monitor but I can't stand it on my laptop....
[07:50] <intelikey> both require fbcon   and thus i tend to not sujest them.
[07:50] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: no kubuntu support
[07:51] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Normally this would be fine but we are at a high stress time it's best to let the guys see what problems are there so they can help
[07:51] <VousDeux> not a problem
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Helvasca_: CRT ?
[07:52] <VousDeux> I'm going to reboot and see if anything blows up now
[07:52] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: If you want to detail some of your over all views you can come back next week and thrash them out
[07:52] <Helvasca_> DaSkreech: nah
[07:52] <intelikey> better make it two weaks
[07:52] <DaSkreech>  Hmm that is strange :)
[07:52] <Helvasca_> DaSkreech: I still find it funny, that hate it on my laptop, but like it on my Desktop.
[07:52] <DaSkreech> intelikey: some arguments are
[07:53] <intelikey> :)
[07:53] <intelikey> tov hob
[07:53] <yodaz> intelikey: but why it worked with feisty N
[07:53] <yodaz> ?
[07:54] <flaccid> new releases introduce new features and break existing ones
[07:54] <intelikey> yodaz that i can't answer.    i can tell you that several people have been having trubble with frame buffering
[07:55] <yodaz> intelikey: ok, thx
[07:55] <DaSkreech> new X ?
[07:55] <yodaz> I will google for that, if I find, I'll tell you
[07:55] <intelikey> new kernel
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Ah
[07:55] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: \o/
[07:56] <VousDeux> well, nothing blew up per se, but I did see some weirdness with the updater pop up on the screen...I will try command-line dist-upgrade
[07:56] <flaccid> a lot of people only recommend cli upgrade
[07:57] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: ok Just note that there is a bug in adept where it always thinks there is a new version
[07:57] <DaSkreech> flaccid: harder to break
[07:57] <intelikey> you mean i'm not the maytag repair man flaccid
[07:57] <DaSkreech> flaccid: On the flop side when it does break it breaks bad
[07:57] <flaccid> lol
[07:57] <flaccid> well in theory a upgrade being 1 command, but its never graceful like that, well sometimes
[07:58] <VousDeux> DaSkreech: thanks for the heads-up, but I'm pretty sure the 5 packages it was trying to install were valid...I'll just see what happens
[07:58] <flaccid> well a few commands but yeah
[07:58] <xevious> Jucato: ping
[07:58] <Jucato> pong
[07:58] <VousDeux> kdelibs-data kdelibs4-dev kdelibs4c2a libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome-menu2
[07:58] <intelikey> at least in the cli you get to see why it borked
[07:58] <xevious> Jucato: any idea of a timeframe for kde4?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Yeah. Just letting you know that if it pops up again at the end then don't sweat too much
[07:59] <yodaz> intelikey: \o/ I think it's that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[07:59] <Jucato> xevious: http://techbase.kde.org
[07:59] <flaccid> yeah if upgrading was graceful on linux/debian then gui would be suffice
[07:59] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Not on my machine it just freezes
[07:59] <xevious> Jucato: thx
[07:59] <VousDeux> DaSkreech: noted...thanks again
[07:59] <deselby9> hi all
[07:59] <DaSkreech> xevious: december-y
[07:59] <intelikey> DaSkreech really.  no network time out  nothing ?
[07:59] <deselby9> quick question ... if I want to install 64 bit version for intel based processor can I use that amd 64 bit iso image as well ?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> intelikey: No the new kernel hates me
[08:00] <DaSkreech> So does strigi
[08:00]  * flaccid not seen strigi work at all yet lol
[08:00] <deselby9> 64-bit PC (AMD64) alternate install CD
[08:00] <deselby9> that is
[08:00] <DaSkreech> deselby9: Yes intel took the AMD extensions
[08:00] <VousDeux> I'm not familiar with strigi, but I see a lot of complaints about it, so I just went ahead and removed it
[08:01] <deselby9> DaSkreech ... thanks ... do you recommend 64 bit ... any problems with it ... eg do the codecs work ?
[08:01] <VousDeux> or at least I thought I did, but there it is
[08:01] <DaSkreech> codecs yeah Java and flash not so great
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !flash64 | deselby9
[08:01] <ubotu> deselby9: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:02] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Check how much CPU it's using up
[08:02] <VousDeux> looks like cli dist-upgrade completed no problem
[08:02] <deselby9> DaSkreech ... oh ok ... in your opinion ... should I stick 32 bit version for a while or go for 64 bit
[08:03] <DaSkreech> deselby9: Which ever you like.
[08:03] <deselby9> ok .. thanks
[08:03] <DaSkreech> deselby9: 3 things don't work so hot.
[08:03] <DaSkreech> If that's enough to turn you off then ... ok that's cool with me :)
[08:03] <VousDeux> DaSkreech: do you mean strigi cpu consumption?
[08:03] <deselby9> DaSkreech ... so java does not work ?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: yes
[08:04] <DaSkreech> deselby9: Look at the link I just showed you
[08:04] <deselby9> DaSkreech ... I have to use eclipse quite a lot ... thats java
[08:04] <intelikey> !info strigi
[08:04] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in gutsy
[08:04] <surgy> ok at this stage of dev. whats the difference in downloading the beta and waiting for the actual release? i mean how much of a difference can there possibly be in this short amount of time?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !info strigidaemon
[08:04] <ubotu> Package strigidaemon does not exist in gutsy
[08:04] <deselby9> DaSkreech ... umm ... maybe 32 bit for now
[08:04] <VousDeux> DaSkreech: it does seem to be popping up near the top fairly frequently...that must be why so many complaints
[08:04] <DaSkreech> surgy: The release is out :-P
[08:04] <elliott__> Any particular reason why adept manager has the "version upgrade" icon available even though I just made a fresh gutsy install?
[08:04] <intelikey> surgy stick with the beta
[08:05] <surgy> DaSkreech: what??????????????????? are you kidding? i thought it was slated for 25-oct ?
[08:05] <RytmenPinnen> elliott__, know bug
[08:05] <DaSkreech> elliott__: Bug. Sorry about that
[08:05] <RytmenPinnen> known
[08:05] <elliott__> ok
[08:05] <elliott__> just checking
[08:05] <hyphenex> What version do I need?  I want KDE4
[08:05] <DaSkreech> surgy: Read the topic
[08:05] <elliott__> it's not a big deal
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !kde4 | hyphenex
[08:05] <ubotu> hyphenex: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[08:05] <RytmenPinnen> nothing to worry about
[08:05] <surgy> have we encountered any problems?
[08:06] <intelikey> surgy several
[08:06] <hyphenex> so if I wanted KDE4, then I can just download Kubuntu 7.10.  but do I get the alternate ISO image, or the desktop ISO image?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> surgy: It's a major upgrade Want to take a guess? :-)
[08:06] <DaSkreech> hyphenex: You do know KDE4 is not out right ?
[08:06] <intelikey> most common is the updater, second seems to be a frame buffering issue.  then verious breaks and bugs.
[08:07] <hyphenex> yep, but the betas are out :)
[08:07] <VousDeux> okay, checking for clean boot again
[08:07] <posingaspopular> has anyone ever seen the error "kernel.maps-protect" is an unknown key, when they try to boot
[08:07] <dromer> good morning :)
[08:07] <surgy> DaSkreech: so ummm very unstable and falling apart allready?
[08:07]  * dromer has a different boot-problem since the upgrade ..
[08:07] <intelikey> posingaspopular using grub ?
[08:08] <xevious> well
[08:08] <xevious> this is me in kde4
[08:08] <dromer> somehow my /home and other partition are 'busy' and can't be mounted .. so I'm stuck in tty's with no history :/
[08:08] <intelikey> posingaspopular that looks more like something you'd get out of lilo booting.
[08:08] <DaSkreech> surgy: no not even close
[08:08] <DaSkreech> hyphenex: In that case it doesn't matter
[08:08] <posingaspopular> yea..
[08:08] <posingaspopular> strange, but it was the only error i had on boot
[08:08] <posingaspopular> oh well
[08:09] <surgy> did the devs ever get around to working on the compatibility of 64 bit apps in kubuntu? i mean when i last tried kubuntu 64 it ran perfect but i had problems downloading and installing certain things like drivers and cedega and random other things becuase there wasnt a 64 bit version out yet. has this went away yet?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> dromer: Can you mount the partition elsewhere?
[08:09] <intelikey> dromer sudo -i  for a root shell then fix it.
[08:09] <dromer> DaSkreech: the partitions are 'busy' so I'm unable to touch them it seems
[08:09] <DaSkreech> surgy: Drivers?
[08:09] <hyphenex> so what's the difference between alternate and desktop?
[08:09] <dromer> intelikey: I should be able to mount them from the root-shell?
[08:09] <RytmenPinnen> hahhahahaha, MY system is awesomly Fed up now this is what I got in the command line: Kaboom!!!!! whooops command-not-found has crashed
[08:10] <intelikey> dromer should.
[08:10] <DaSkreech> hyphenex: one is a live Cd one has LVM
[08:10] <VousDeux> I think everything is okay (or at least the stuff that does work)
[08:10] <hyphenex> DaSkreech: I don't follow
[08:10] <hyphenex> what's a LVM?
[08:10] <intelikey> dromer you may need to modprobe support for them
[08:10] <DaSkreech> hyphenex: One is a live cd one is a text install
[08:10] <dromer> intelikey: nope, I get something like: mount: /dev/hda5 is already mounted or /home busy
[08:11] <hyphenex> ahh, but if I install them, they kind of do the same thing, right?
[08:11] <hyphenex> is the desktop the live CD?
[08:11] <dromer> intelikey: ok, just modprobe /dev/hda5 or something?
[08:11] <intelikey> dromer exact error please
[08:11] <DaSkreech> hyphenex: yes
[08:11] <VousDeux> would anyone here know anything I might do to get the power manager to stop freakin' out and flopping back and forth saying my power has been plugged/unplugged?
[08:11] <dromer> intelikey: 'mount: /dev/hda5 is already mounted or /home busy'
[08:12] <intelikey> dromer umount /dev/*
[08:12] <intelikey> then try it.
[08:12] <dromer> intelikey: but I'm not sure which one is my /home .. I'm just trying sometnhing .. I can't check the filesize of either /dev/hda* with df
[08:12] <VousDeux> sometimes it will work okay for hours, but when it starts freakin' out, I have to kill the applet, and then I can't adjust the brightness
[08:12] <dromer> intelikey: same error
[08:12] <intelikey> dromer cat /proc/partitions     will display info on the avalable partitions
[08:13] <elliott__> how about suspending and hibernating? Known bugs?
[08:13] <surgy> DaSkreech: well not so much drivers as drivers like oss working with my 32 bit emulators like snesx9x
[08:13] <dromer> intelikey: ok thnx, hda5 is my home then
[08:13] <elliott__> or is it just my computer?
[08:13] <dromer> intelikey: but it's not umounted I guess, I still get the same error
[08:13] <intelikey> dromer ok try this.     mount /dev/hda5 /home -o remount,rw
[08:14] <VousDeux> or perhaps someone knows why sometimes the wlan will drop it's IP and will not reattach to the strong signal of my wireless network until I reboot?
[08:14] <intelikey> no error means no error.
[08:14] <dromer> intelikey: hmm, have to specify a filesystem ..
[08:14] <VousDeux> are those kernel issues?
[08:14] <intelikey> dromer yeah.  module.     modprobe ide-disk
[08:14] <intelikey> dromer yeah.  module.     modprobe ide-core
[08:15] <intelikey> dromer yeah.  module.     modprobe ide-detect
[08:15] <deselby9> how about KDE4 ... that work already ?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Nope one is the powermanager one is networkmanager
[08:15] <VousDeux> I've submitted bug reports for both issues, but no response
[08:15] <DaSkreech> deselby9: Nope Beta 3
[08:15] <surgy> DaSkreech: will i run into anything like this now? i i go ahead with the 64 bit edition of kde?
[08:15] <intelikey> dromer what fs type is that partition ?
[08:15] <dromer> intelikey: FATAL: Module ide_detect not found.
[08:15] <DaSkreech> surgy: Maybe :)
[08:15] <VousDeux> is that Kubuntu support issue?
[08:15] <dromer> intelikey: ext3, both of them
[08:15] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Yup
[08:16] <intelikey> dromer ok try the mount command again
[08:16] <VousDeux> whew
[08:16] <dromer> intelikey: nope, still need o specify the fs
[08:16] <surgy> DaSkreech: in your opinion should i wait to get the latest kubuntu?
[08:16] <intelikey> modprobe ext3
[08:16] <DaSkreech> surgy: Yeah
[08:16] <VousDeux> so maybe I can expect a response to my bug reports someday?
[08:16] <surgy> rhow long?
[08:16] <surgy> DaSkreech: next weekend?
[08:16] <dromer> intelikey: no error on the modprobe, but same on the mount
[08:16] <DaSkreech> surgy: Not for quality issues so much but the servers are still under stress
[08:17] <DaSkreech> surgy: Good plan
[08:17] <DaSkreech> VousDeux:
[08:17] <DaSkreech> if you follow them up yeah
[08:17] <VousDeux> I submitted all of the stuff as requested by the KernelTeamBugPolicies
[08:17] <VousDeux> follow them up?
[08:18] <VousDeux> I gave as much detail as I knew how...if nobody asks any questions I'm not sure how to follow up
[08:18] <intelikey> dromer lets see if i can cludge this into a script.       for Q in /dev/hd* ;do mount $Q /home ;done
[08:18] <flaccid> check back not follow up :)
[08:18] <intelikey> there will be lots of errors.   ignore them.    ls /home.
[08:18] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: If you find more info then append it to the same bug
[08:19] <dromer> intelikey: ok, lemme switch to another tty and do this ;)
[08:19] <B-Minus> hello
[08:19] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: developers pay more attention to bugs that have a person behind it who wants to see it fixed
[08:19] <B-Minus> is the bug fixed yet -> version upgrade but there is no upgrade ?
[08:19] <VousDeux> I do check back, and I subscribed to the bug report I get an e-mail for every 'me too' post that gets added on
[08:19] <DaSkreech> and what flaccid said :)
[08:20] <intelikey> dromer  alt+right arrow      heh or alt+f[1-6]
[08:20] <DaSkreech> B-Minus: no you'll see adept updated when it's patched
[08:20] <flaccid> dang
[08:20]  * flaccid waits for his adsl2+ modem
[08:20] <B-Minus> ok tn x
[08:20] <intelikey> has to be the left alt key. if you have two.
[08:20] <lovre> hi all
[08:20] <VousDeux> some of them have said the status is critical for months...what else do I need to do?
[08:21] <dromer> intelikey: ok wth .. I get an error reading: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 (the root dir!!) is already mounted on /home
[08:21] <dromer> ls /home confirms this
[08:21] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Is the bug assigned to someone?
[08:21] <VousDeux> some say the status is confirmed, but nothing has changed for several months
[08:21] <intelikey> dromer ok      mount
[08:21] <dromer> weird stuff
[08:21] <intelikey> see if it lists anything on /home.
[08:21] <VousDeux> some of them are assigned, but no action that I can tell
[08:21] <flaccid> dang
[08:21] <dromer> intelikey: it lists / in /home now
[08:21] <dromer> intelikey: and hda5 and hda6 are still considered busy
[08:22] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: try and see if you can make contact with the person or team. Something drastic may have come up IRL which drops the priority of the bug
[08:22] <flaccid> lazy unmount them? umount -l /dev/hda5
[08:22]  * intelikey thinks......
[08:22] <VousDeux> okay
[08:23] <intelikey> flaccid they aren't mounted.
[08:23] <VousDeux> I have seen some that the status has said critical since edgy, but the problem still seems to persist
[08:23] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Thanks for being a great user :)
[08:23] <intelikey> dromer  ps aux | grep hda
[08:23] <VousDeux> I'm trying to be helpful, but I do get frustrated sometimes...sorry
[08:24] <lovre> how do i configure the colors of all the lists in my kde? they are all black and grey, i cant see letters
[08:24] <dromer> intelikey: nothing except my root-shell doing the command
[08:24] <Assid> crazy
[08:24] <Assid> it doesnt wanna work
[08:24] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: I know but they are putting in free time to help. It's nice you can do that as well
[08:24] <tuco_> Hello all. I can't update through adept manager, and it seems like my repositories are wrong. Thanks
[08:24] <tuco_> I am in Gutsy by the way
[08:25] <posingaspopular> tuco_: can i see your sources.list
[08:25] <intelikey> dromer hmmm      e2fsck /dev/hda6
[08:25] <Assid> i cant seem to get the bluetooth gprs to connect
[08:25] <DaSkreech> !final | tuco_
[08:25] <tuco_> Where can I post them to you Posing?
[08:25] <ubotu> tuco_: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[08:25] <posingaspopular> !paste
[08:25] <DaSkreech> tuco_: or do you mean you have no repos ?
[08:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:25] <VousDeux> I wish I had more time, but between family, work, college, and my own hobbies it's hard to squeeze in much else
[08:26] <dromer> intelikey: device or resource busy
[08:26] <intelikey> i'm starting to think mdadm
[08:26] <intelikey> you didn't raid them by accident did you
[08:26] <tuco_> here Posing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41289/
[08:26] <dromer> intelikey: 'Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?'
[08:26] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: Bug reports are a good start. Making a good bug report helps matters since devs can't have all the hardware to test all scenarios
[08:26] <dromer> intelikey: I didn't raid anything, just upgraded and rebooted
[08:27] <intelikey> dromer ok.   i sujest booting a live CD and checking the filesystems on your hd
[08:27] <VousDeux> DaSkreech: I think I have made good bug reports...are there examples or other guidelines besides the KernelTeamBugPolicies?
[08:27] <posingaspopular> 0.o that looks like a mess
[08:27] <dromer> intelikey: hmm, I think I have one of those ... is an old knoppix good enough?; )
[08:28] <posingaspopular> Jucato: how does apt verify repos?
[08:28] <intelikey> dromer yes
[08:28] <VousDeux> I've spent hours digging through logs trying to gather good information with as much detail as possible
[08:28] <shark> hello everybody
[08:28] <Jucato> posingaspopular: md5sum?
[08:28] <posingaspopular> !hi
[08:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:28] <DaSkreech> VousDeux: I haven't seen yours but if you followed the guidelines you have done what you could
[08:28] <tuco_> I haven't changed anything to it after installing Gutsy from scratch
[08:28] <intelikey> dromer infact that better than an install cd of the same version that's borked
[08:28] <posingaspopular> Jucato: look at tuco's pastebin
[08:28] <DaSkreech> tuco_:
[08:28] <tuco_> Yes
[08:28] <dromer> intelikey: ok, brb :) (don't have a 7.10 install-cd btw)
[08:28] <DaSkreech> What happens when you try to update ?
[08:29] <tuco_> it blocks at 26%
[08:29] <tuco_> or sometimes adept crashes
[08:29] <shark> uhm I have a question. How Can I access my NTFS partition from $Storage media$ cause it says>"hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" ????
[08:29] <VousDeux> I still have some old Knoppix kiosk machines in our cafeteria's that I customized about 4 or 5 years ago
[08:29] <lovre> look at this: http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc86/kDevious/snapshot10.png
[08:30] <flaccid> so many people have that problem. gutys seems to suck :(
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Well it's 2:30
[08:30] <lovre> how do i change the list colors?
[08:30] <tuco_> I have upgraded from feisty but things didn't go well after it finished, then I decided to reinstall from scratch
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Time to hit bed before my Russian friends wake up
[08:30] <shark> so nobody? :S
[08:31] <DaSkreech> !ntfs
[08:31] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:31] <posingaspopular> DaSkreech: are you in the central time zone, or the other side of the world
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Other side :)
[08:31] <DaSkreech> No EST
[08:31] <tuco_> So what is the problem with my source list Posing?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> gutsy-proposed?
[08:33] <shark> ok it works. I made a directory: "sudo mkdir /mnt/win" then "sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/win -o force,locale=en_EN.UTF-8"... But thanks :)
[08:33] <posingaspopular> tuco_: i have no idea. im hoping Jucato knows becuase ive never seen this
[08:33] <Jucato> tuco_: what seems to be the problem
[08:33] <Assid> konversation has a bug
[08:33] <tuco_> I can't update through adept or sudo
[08:34] <Assid> whose doing these tests?
[08:34] <tuco_> it get stucks at 26% and here is the link to my sources Jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41289/
[08:34] <intelikey> Assid what tests :)
[08:34] <Assid> hhehe
[08:34] <yodaz> why there is no mp3 encoding support with vlc ?
[08:34] <Assid> okay that but aint there
[08:34] <Jucato> tuco_: looking at it... can you specify which repo it's stuck with?
[08:34] <Assid> what about this stupid ass bluetooth modem issue
[08:34] <Assid> it aint working
[08:35] <tuco_> What do you mean Jucato?
[08:35] <charlie5> redshadowhero: just a quick followup -> after completing ugrade, all seems working ok so far, despite the hiccups ... had to reinstall nvidia driver manually, but that is ok :)
[08:35] <Jucato> tuco_: um wait... it get stucks where? what were you trying to do?
[08:35] <waylandbill> tuco_: uncomment the lines that it said it commented. Either your connection was not good during the install or the repo server had trouble at that time.
[08:35] <tuco_> load adept, fletch update butthe bar at the bottom stays at 26%
[08:35] <dromer> intelikey: ok, I'm back :)
[08:36] <intelikey> dromer that was fast
[08:36] <dromer> intelikey: so, what do I do now from the live-cd?
[08:36] <Jucato> waylandbill: can you take over? pretty please? :)
[08:36] <intelikey> yes
[08:36] <redshadowhero> charlie5: well, I'm about to restart. I'll see where that gets me...
[08:37] <intelikey> dromer cat /proc/partitions       and don't freek out when they are all "sda"  knoppix uses scsi emulation.
[08:37] <dromer> hehe
[08:37] <intelikey> dromer e2fsck them
[08:37] <waylandbill> tuco_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list         then.... remove the # from the lines under each "Line commented" line.
[08:37] <dromer> intelikey: no their all hda
[08:38] <hangthedj> wow, checking out the ubuntu forums and kubuntu forums, there seems to be alot going on
[08:38] <intelikey> you said old !
[08:38] <tuco_> OK Jucato
[08:38] <tuco_> let me try
[08:38] <Jucato> tuco_: waylandbill will take over for me. half-busy
[08:38] <dromer> intelikey: hmm, /dev/hda5 is clean, hda6 is being checked for being mounted 22 times
[08:39] <waylandbill> Jucato: you might get the credit for it anyway. ;-)
[08:39] <intelikey> you can use  -f  to force a check if you want.
[08:39] <Jucato> tuco_: don't forget, it's waylandbill and posingaspopular who helped you :D
[08:39] <Jucato> !helpersnack | waylandbill
[08:39] <ubotu> waylandbill: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:39] <dromer> hahaha
[08:39] <waylandbill> mmm.. tasty
[08:39] <posingaspopular> hahaha is that new
[08:40] <posingaspopular> amarok wont run. it does that icon half invisible spinny thing and then disappears
[08:40] <intelikey> !opsnack | Jucato
[08:40] <ubotu> Jucato: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[08:40] <VousDeux> I am trying to put together a business plan where I will market laptop computers with Linux to small businesses, I am trying to learn how to go about getting quality support for the various driver concerns that will be associated with such an endeavour. I would not be opposed to sharing the proceeds from such a business if it would help promote the market as a whole.
[08:40] <lovre> can any1 help me? i have tried everything i can think of,
[08:40] <hangthedj> posingaspopular, thats happened to me before on gutsy-beta, i had to killall amarok-app then start again.
[08:40] <flaccid> VousDeux, buy Dell, mission done.
[08:41] <posingaspopular> VousDeux: there is a guy i know who does ubuntu migration and stuff like that. he knows his drivers
[08:41] <VousDeux> yuck
[08:41] <posingaspopular> google anthony sosa and email him (mention my name) and he should respond
[08:41] <flaccid> or you can stuff around and do what dell have already done and try to support your own set of hardware, your choice...
[08:41] <VousDeux> I want to market quality laptops...not the cheapest junk I can get my hands on
[08:41] <tuco_> still stuck at 24% guys!
[08:42] <tuco_> Can somebody give me a list that works for UK?
[08:42] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: mention your nick?
[08:42] <dromer> intelikey: hmm, seems to be stuck after 'Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes'  .. though the cpu seems to be working alot ..
[08:42] <posingaspopular> VousDeux: eddie martinez from the chicago-ubuntu loco
[08:43] <VousDeux> cool, thanks!
[08:43] <posingaspopular> ask him how we handles drivers and freenx and all sorts of other stuff that is too tech for me
[08:43] <intelikey> dromer give it time.   it takes a while to check a billion gigabites
[08:44] <dromer> intelikey: haha, ok .. I'll awit some more ;) (I'm not used to the fsck done from a live-cd .. prolly supposed to take longer that way too huh ..)
[08:44] <flaccid-> hmm dlinks are crap routers...
[08:44] <intelikey> no just that a forced check takes more than just replaying the journal
[08:45] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: got it...thanks again!
[08:45] <tuco_> Jucato?
[08:45] <intelikey> i should be fixing the network interlace that i busted...
[08:45] <dromer> intelikey: it's checking hda6 now .. not being forced into it
[08:46] <dromer> intelikey: oh wait, it is being forced, just not with the -f flag ;)
[08:46] <tuco_> Someone who a working source list more than welcome :-)
 intelikey: hmm, /dev/hda5 is clean, hda6 is being checked for being mounted 22 times <<  fs forces full check.
[08:46] <tuco_> with a working source sorry
[08:47] <dromer> intelikey: yes I get it :)
[08:47] <flaccid> !source-o-matic
[08:47] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:47] <intelikey> sorry i was scrolled up.
[08:47] <dromer> takes really really long though ...
[08:48] <dromer> intelikey: weird that hda5 is considered clean ..
[08:50] <tuco_> I can't get it work flaccid
[08:51] <intelikey> yeah you will need to mount each of them and see what is where,   it sounds to me like one of three things happening,   1, and the most likely, mdadm (raid)   2, as about as likely, kernel is garbage. (copy error, maybe. durring install)  3, least likely upstart was doing a fsck on them but the process wasn't listed in the process table, so that about precludes that.
[08:51] <tuco_> can somebody copy and paste a working list?
[08:52] <flaccid> !doesntwork
[08:52] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:54] <tuco_> I can't create a working source list from that link you sent
[08:54] <dromer> intelikey: hm, e2fsck on hda6 still not showing progress .. I'm taking a shower :P
[08:54] <dromer> bbl
[08:54] <tuco_> and been having problems with adept
[08:55] <intelikey> or 4 possably the obvious problem. hardware failure  (cpu over heat) or (hd went south)
[08:55] <intelikey> no offence to the aussies
[08:56] <level1_> hi, I've had gutsy since beta 2 I think and been upgrading regularly.  Adept wanted to run an update manager to update to gutsy, even though I already have gutsy, whats the deal?
[08:56] <intelikey> or (ram chip "went south" even)
[08:56] <flaccid> hey i'm australian
[08:56] <flaccid> lol
[08:57] <intelikey> :)
[08:57] <intelikey> good'on'ya then
[08:57] <flaccid> my server is on the way to my house now, yay...
[08:57] <flaccid> no worries mate
[08:58] <tuco_> OK guess I will just reinstall feisty and stick with it. Cheers though.
[08:58]  * intelikey wonders about the origen of that expression.... (went south)
[08:58] <flaccid> lol
[09:00] <flaccid> gutsy stability, where the bloody hell are ya
[09:00] <intelikey> lol
[09:00] <flaccid> :p
[09:00] <intelikey> it  "went south"  did it ?
[09:01] <Cugel> I can't load the 'display & monitor' module. Annoys me. Known problem, no solution.
[09:01] <tuco_> Please someone...a decent source list for Gutsy!?
[09:02] <ndrea> hm,... i actually wanted to reinstall gutsy over feisty but I get a list of errors of this kind http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41292/
[09:02] <ndrea> what could be the problem?
[09:02] <intelikey> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/dapper/gutsy/g' | pastebin
[09:03] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/40497 << results
[09:03] <flaccid> source-o-matic doesn't work?
[09:03] <intelikey> tuco_ that was for you     ^
[09:03] <tuco_> It doesn't for me
[09:03] <tuco_> Hold on Intel
[09:03] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/40497 << results
[09:04] <tuco_> what do I type please?
[09:04] <intelikey> that  ^ in your browser
[09:04] <tuco_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41293/
[09:05]  * intelikey wonders where that "went south"....
[09:05] <tuco_> Sorry I am confused Intel. You wanted my source list right?
[09:06] <intelikey> no you wanted mine
[09:06] <intelikey> ;/
[09:06] <tuco_> Yes...
[09:07] <flaccid> !doesntwork
[09:07] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:07] <tuco_> is there only 4 lines Intel?
[09:07] <intelikey> flaccid i'm thinking so too
[09:07] <intelikey> tuco_ yes
[09:07] <flaccid> if you can paste from source-o-matic, you probably can't paste from anywhere
[09:07] <harmental> could anyone point towards a gutsy RC to gutsy official problems related page?
[09:07] <intelikey> can/can't
[09:08] <tuco_> This is going nowhere. I have never seen only 4 lines in the source list or I am missing something?
[09:08] <posingaspopular> wow im getting really sick of gutsy crashing on me all the time
[09:09] <intelikey> tuco_ when you get tired of whining about it,   try it.
[09:09] <VousDeux> whoa, and I thought I had problems...at least it doesn't crash for me too
[09:09] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: any exit errors to report?
[09:10] <tuco_> I am not Whining at all. I have your 4 lines in a blank source page and it does nothing sorry.
[09:10] <flaccid> what is nothing?
[09:10] <flaccid> please explain
[09:10] <flaccid> describe what you do, and what happens
[09:10] <posingaspopular> VousDeux: no, basically X went crazy and i had to reboot. happened when i killed amarok
[09:11] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: is it always a similar scenario?
[09:11] <posingaspopular> yea it's always some sort of DM going crazy isue and then a shutfown
[09:11] <tuco_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41293/ that is my source list right. Basically I can't fletch updates in adept.
[09:11] <harmental> hey guys...
[09:11] <harmental> I've sucessfully upgragrinng through the alpha cycle of gutsy.  I upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 offical a few days ago. When I now try to "get updates" in adept, I see the "versionupgrade" button. When I enter it, it fails after I press ok for the packages not anymore supported. It says no need to upgrade and it cancels and change back.
[09:11] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: are you using stuff like compiz?
[09:11] <harmental> any ideas?
[09:12] <posingaspopular> nope. nothinglike that.
[09:12] <flaccid> tuco_, what does the command return.. you still have not cited anything
[09:12] <intelikey> flaccid it's all commented out.
[09:12] <intelikey> all but his cdrom
[09:12] <flaccid> is it
[09:12] <tuco_> The bar says : waiting for headers 66%
[09:12] <intelikey> yesd
[09:12] <flaccid> true
[09:12] <flaccid> thus the suggestion for source-o-matic or uncomment it out. sorry im on bad connection atm
[09:12] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: can you describe 'going crazy'?
[09:13] <tuco_> and it stays there indefinitely
[09:13] <rohan> hi .. i'm running gutsy. unlike feisty, i don't get an OSD when i use the volume keys on my laptop to control the volume
[09:13] <flaccid> tuco_, use source-o-matic and replace the sources.list then update
[09:14] <Minnozz> Hi, is it a known bug that Adept gives a message that a new distribution is available, and after that gives the message that no updates are available? I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy with kubuntu-desktop
[09:14] <flaccid> i belive so Minnozz
[09:14] <VousDeux> Minnozz: yes, known
[09:14] <Minnozz> ok =)
[09:15] <tuco_> When I press create sources list it doesn't do anything Flaccid!
[09:15] <posingaspopular> i was running amarok. it played on song. stopped for 5 minutes. wouldn't come out of the task bar. i tried to kill it with the konsole. it died, and then pidgin froze i tried to katapult to pidgin and the background behind the katapult icon turned into a pidgin IM. moved to a new desktop, and then the katapult from the old dekstop showed up on the new one. and then everythign froze and i had to reboot
[09:15] <posingaspopular> fun
[09:15] <flaccid> ok tuco_ at least i know the problem now. which browser is this in ?
[09:15] <tuco_> Have tried numerous times.
[09:15] <VousDeux> Minnozz: those types of gremlins usually go away within a day
[09:15] <tuco_> Konqueror
[09:15] <Delphinus> hadaratou
[09:16] <flaccid> tuco_, if i pastebin you a recommended sources.list can you replace your sources.list with it?
[09:16] <tuco_> yes
[09:16] <RytmenPinnen> I'm trying to update from a cd but it doesnt start when I insert the cd
[09:16] <flaccid> tuco_, country you are in atm?
[09:16] <tuco_> UK
[09:17] <flaccid> i386 i assume
[09:17] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: it sounds like the graphics resources are having issues...hmmm
[09:17] <tuco_> Yes Flaccid
[09:17] <posingaspopular> VousDeux: my hd has been slowly dying as well
[09:17] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: what have you tried?
[09:17] <posingaspopular> that's a 'knownbug'
[09:17] <intelikey> tuco_ here i even cleaned yours up.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/40499
[09:18] <RytmenPinnen> I'm trying to update from a cd but it doesnt start when I insert the cd, I might add that my system is quite screwed up after various attempts at updating online
[09:18] <dromer> intelikey: ok, it's done .. what shall I try now?
[09:18] <posingaspopular> i have like 3 paritions. theyve slowly all been giving me kernel panics
[09:18] <intelikey> dromer mount them and see if what you expect to be there is there.
[09:19] <VousDeux> ahhh...so you could have some corruption related to disk i/o maybe?
[09:19] <dromer> oh btw, whan you mentioned about mdadm sounds familiar somehow, I didn't know hat it was but it (mdadm) had some problems during the upgrade
[09:19] <flaccid> tuco_, please use this one: http://pastebin.ca/743256 . do a sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade once replaced
[09:19] <intelikey> posingaspopular gutsy ?
[09:19] <posingaspopular> intelikey: gutsy, feisty, feisty-1
[09:19] <dromer> intelikey: I've never setup a raid-system though, so I don't know what mdadm is doing ..
[09:19] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: is your bios configured to boot from cd?
[09:19] <RytmenPinnen> no but I can change it
[09:20] <dromer> intelikey: I mount the partitoins somewhere within knoppix?
[09:20] <intelikey> dromer yes
[09:20] <RytmenPinnen> but I fear my system wont boot at all if I restart :P
[09:20] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: does it work okay if you run from live cd for awhile?
[09:20] <Ayabara> !compiz
[09:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[09:20] <tuco_> TRying now Flaccid
[09:20] <posingaspopular> nope. my computer wont even load the live cd
[09:20] <RytmenPinnen> w8 a minute, I'm gonna try some commands I just found
[09:20] <flaccid> ok
[09:20] <posingaspopular> which, you know, might mean its not the HD actually
[09:21] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: well, if that's the case, you're going to have to face the music eventually
[09:21] <dromer> intelikey: ok, all seems right from within knoppix ..
[09:21] <intelikey> posingaspopular any live CD or just the one ?
[09:21] <VousDeux> I've gotta go shave...this evening shadow is bugging the devil out of me
[09:22] <posingaspopular> any ubuntu live cd
[09:22] <posingaspopular> and i only have ubuntu
[09:22] <posingaspopular> great katapult just froze
[09:22] <tuco_> I get that:
[09:22] <tuco_> #deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)]/ gutsy main restricted
[09:22] <intelikey> dromer ok.  but that's both good and bad.    good that your data is intact,  bad that your new system is "worthless"
[09:22] <tuco_>  
[09:22] <tuco_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:22] <tuco_> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:22] <dromer> intelikey: shall I reboot and see what happens?
[09:22] <tuco_>  
[09:22] <tuco_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:22] <tuco_> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[09:22] <tuco_>  
[09:22] <dromer> !pastebin | tuco
[09:22] <ubotu> tuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <tuco_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[09:22] <flaccid> !pastebin > tuco_
[09:23] <tuco_> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[09:23] <tuco_>  
[09:23] <intelikey> dromer you can.   but dimes to doughnuts   it's a no show
[09:23] <tuco_> #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:23] <tuco_> # deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:23] <tuco_>  
[09:23] <tuco_> #deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
[09:23] <tuco_> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
[09:23] <tuco_> Ooooooops sorry!
[09:23] <intelikey> dromer my money is on the kernel being bad.
[09:23] <dromer> intelikey: hmmm, what could I do about it from here?
[09:23] <tuco_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41294/
[09:24] <dromer> intelikey: can't I chroot into it and install a new kernel or something?
[09:24] <flaccid> tuco_, are you going to do what i suggested or what?
[09:24] <tuco_> I get that: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:24] <flaccid> !adeptfix | tuco_
[09:24] <ubotu> tuco_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:24] <tuco_> I copied and pasted as you said!
[09:25] <intelikey> dromer if you had a "good" linux-image-generic.deb package you could    chroot /<mounted_hd_root> dpkg -i *.deb    thus installing a kernel to boot into.
[09:25] <flaccid> tuco_, you were meant to replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with the text of the pastebin, then run that command.
[09:25] <flaccid> what you did is not what i said unfortunately
[09:26] <tuco_> This is what I did! I mean I may be a beginner but not a dumbo!
[09:26] <dromer> intelikey: hmmm, atm I just have my borked upgrade and this knoppix-cd ;)
[09:26] <intelikey> dromer fast inet ?
[09:26] <intelikey> !packages
[09:26] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:26] <flaccid> tuco_, you go to the pastebin i linked you. you copy the text. you do an alt+f2 and run kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and then you do ctrl+a and then you paste the text from pastebin, save, then run the upgrade command i advised
[09:27] <dromer> intelikey: yes, surfnet.nl :) (should be 100/100
[09:27] <intelikey> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <tuco_> This is what I did Flaccid! Three times now and I am stuck at 0% now!
[09:29] <dromer> intelikey: ok, I have space on hda6, so I can download it to there
[09:29] <tuco_> Again and again.
[09:29] <ndrea> How do you read Iso files as if it were from a cd?
[09:29] <dromer> ndrea: you mount them
[09:29] <dromer> !mount
[09:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:29] <ndrea> thanks
[09:29] <dromer> eh, n/m
[09:30] <intelikey> dromer has to be accessable from within the chroot   i.e. if that's not the root fs mount the root fs and then mount that within it.
[09:30] <harmental> I've sucessfully upgraded through the whole alpha cycle of gutsy.  I finally upgraded to gutsy offical a few days ago. When I now try to "get updates" in adept, I see the "versionupgrade" button. When I enter it, it fails after I press ok for the packages not anymore supported. It says no need to upgrade and it cancels and change back.
[09:30] <RytmenPinnen> If I reboot and boot from the live cd and update that way do I have format my hdd or can I repair my system that way instead?
[09:31] <tuco_> OK I am just going back to Feisty for now. Will upgrade eventually in 6 months time. Thanks for the effort mate.
[09:31] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: that depends on how you have partitioned it
[09:31] <RytmenPinnen> only one partition
[09:31] <RytmenPinnen> am I screwed? :P
[09:31] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: I don't believe there is a simple repair function, but I could be mistaken
[09:32] <flaccid> sometimes i wonder why i waste my time
[09:32] <flaccid> oh shit its linux....
[09:32] <RytmenPinnen> what about the fiesty disk? I have thatone too
[09:32] <dromer> intelikey: oh ok .. well .. how do I go about this then? I mount the borked OS then chroot into it and download te right kernel?
[09:32] <intelikey> RytmenPinnen officially,  no.   techencally yes you can.  but it may not be easy
[09:32] <RytmenPinnen> aha
[09:33] <tuco_> You didn't. I didn't have issues at all With Feisty, since I have upgraded to Gutsy things have been worse than ever before I make a choice to go back to something that works for me Ok. No big deal!
[09:33] <tuco_> Anyway thanks for your help.
[09:34] <intelikey> dromer something like this.     mount /dev/hda5 /mnt ;mount /dev/hda6 /mnt /home     then dl it to  /mnt/home    and    chroot /mnt dpkg -i /home/*.deb
[09:34] <VousDeux> hmmm...I've heard several people make the comparison to Feisty...maybe I don't have any of those problems because I never had Feisty in the first place.
[09:34] <intelikey> and yes that's verbatum except the gui parts.
[09:34] <dromer> intelikey: the borked OS in /dev/hda2 I think
[09:34] <dromer> is*
[09:34] <VousDeux> sounds like there is still much to be said for a clean install
[09:35] <intelikey> then  s/hda5/hda2/g
[09:36] <VousDeux> I think the only OS I have ever seen be able to upgrade without issues is MPE
[09:37] <Hamra> sorry, what is MPE?
[09:38] <intelikey> dromer ooops   /dev/hda6 /mnt /home <<< should be >>>> /dev/hda6 /mnt/home
[09:38] <intelikey> this keyboard is getting tired of me.
[09:38] <dromer> intelikey: ok, but /dev/hda5 is my old /home ;)
[09:38] <VousDeux> it's a unix-based os that runs on proprietary systems
[09:38] <Hamra> ok
[09:39]  * intelikey </shrugs>
[09:39] <dromer> intelikey: making some extra space on /dev/hda5 .. only had <1gb left
[09:39] <dromer> ok, time for the mounting ..
[09:39] <intelikey> but the kernel is only about a 70m dl
[09:40] <intelikey> and i still consider that bloated.
[09:40] <dromer> intelikey: haha ok, wel, anyway, shouldn't I better mount the root to something like /mnt/root ? because there's all kinds of stuff in /mnt/ already .. I suppose it doesn't really matter ..
[09:40] <VousDeux> http://docs.hp.com/en/mpeixall.html
[09:41] <intelikey> all kinds of stuff in /mnt ???   something mounted already ?
[09:41] <rand_acs> anyone else having issues with kmail?
[09:42] <intelikey> ah kmail   that's refreshing.  it's not adept kernel or amarok related for a change
[09:42] <rand_acs> lol
[09:42] <dromer> intelikey: auto  cdrom  floppy  hda1  hda2  hda5  hda6  << these where pre-made, I moented hda5 and hda6 to these folders later .. I now added a root/ and mounted hda2 to it .. and I mounted hda5 in this root/home/
[09:42] <VousDeux> *chuckle*
[09:42] <dromer> intelikey: ok, now to find the kernel ...
[09:42] <riky> ciao atutti
[09:43] <intelikey> dromer it's called    linux-image***
[09:43] <intelikey>    http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <dromer> yes I'm searching right now :)
[09:44] <rubikcube> hi, is the "Find best Server" button in adept (repository settings menu) of any use yet?  So far it just freezes the program but that could be due to the current heavy load on all the mirrors as well, maybe.
[09:44] <rand_acs> oh and my system try is acting up too, amarok's icon doens't show up, kmplayer's one(and most of the others) randomly appear all over the screen... note I've got compiz running
[09:44] <dromer> linux-image-2.6.22-14-386  << this one I guess ..
[09:44] <intelikey> dromer should work
[09:45] <intelikey> dromer you didn't install k8 did you ?  (64 bit)
[09:45] <VousDeux> not if it says 386 on the end
[09:46] <dromer> afaik not no, no I'm sure it's the 386 version
[09:46] <riky> hi some body can help me? my adept in kubuntu open but tell me who there is andar istance open but i don't open nathing tankyou sorry for my bed english
[09:46] <jussi01> could someone tell me where to put a script so it starts every time the pc starts?
[09:46] <intelikey> just wondering if there was going to be problems...  k
[09:46] <intelikey> jussi01 boot time or user login ?
[09:46] <VousDeux> riky: I think you need to go to console and type 'dpkg --configure -a'
[09:47] <jussi01> intelikey: user login
[09:47] <intelikey> jussi01 ~/.kde/Autostart/
[09:47] <jussi01> intelikey: its a script to start my bot...
[09:47] <intelikey> !autostart
[09:47] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:47] <riky> now i try tankyou VousDeux
[09:47] <rand_acs> eek, ok kmail doesn't crash, it's spawns child processes like mad :s
[09:47] <jussi01> thanks intelikey
[09:47] <intelikey> np
[09:48] <intelikey> yw
[09:48] <VousDeux> riky: don't forget sudo..like I did
[09:48] <riky> yes tankyou
[09:48] <VousDeux> riky: it should be 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:48] <RytmenPinnen> K I think im gonna do an attempt at repairing now, wish me luck
[09:48] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: gl
[09:49] <dromer> intelikey: chrooted now and trying the install ..
[09:50] <intelikey> i had four networks all interlaced, and working togather, and just about then, it all "went south" on me...
[09:51] <intelikey> now i can only ping any one form the ones dirrectly connected to it.   nothing throught gateways....
[09:51] <VousDeux> interlaced networks?
[09:51] <kaminix> I can't add my torrents to groups in KTorrent. :(
[09:52] <nilom> ciaoooooooooo a tuttttttttttttttttiiiiiiiiii
[09:52] <intelikey> yeah   net1--boxA--net2--boxB--net3--boxC.....
[09:52] <dromer> intelikey: ok -> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
[09:52] <dromer> try reboot ?
[09:52] <intelikey> dromer yes.
[09:52] <dromer> ok .. bbl ;)
[09:52] <VousDeux> intelikey: what are you using for router?
[09:53] <intelikey> linux
[09:53] <VousDeux> with four nics? or multi-homed?
[09:53] <intelikey> with 15 nics
[09:54] <intelikey> av 3 per box
[09:54] <VousDeux> why not just one router in the middle?
[09:55] <intelikey> with different networks ?    i could i guess.
[09:55] <intelikey> you buying ?
[09:55] <intelikey> :)
[09:55] <riky> VousDeux tankyou very match you seve me!Now work tankyou!!!!!
[09:55] <posingaspopular> VousDeux: comp going down....
[09:55] <posingaspopular> dekstop background is gone
[09:55] <VousDeux> sure, just put multiple nicks in the router box, and then use that one point as the gateway
[09:55] <VousDeux> riky: np
[09:56] <posingaspopular> there goes the taskbar.... altf2 is going to be the killer
[09:56] <posingaspopular> how do i restart x?
[09:56] <lovre> i remember i mounted an iso file a few days ago, but i cant remember where i mounted it. Can i somehow list all mounted files or something like that?
[09:56] <VousDeux> ctrl+bkspace
[09:56] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[09:57] <VousDeux> oops...ctrl+alt+bkspace
[09:57] <posingaspopular> nope... nothing
[09:57] <posingaspopular> i see konversation, pidgni
[09:57] <intelikey> lovre cat /proc/mounts
[09:57] <posingaspopular> and everyhting else is black
[09:57] <intelikey> lovre   mount
[09:57] <dromer> intelikey: :( back in tty :(
[09:57] <VousDeux> lovre: just type mount
[09:58] <intelikey> dromer ok.  sudo apt-get remove --purge mdadm      and try it.
[09:58] <rand_acs> posingaspopular: ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:58] <posingaspopular> !help
[09:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:58] <posingaspopular> nope that didnt work
[09:59] <lovre> if i mount something than restart my computer, will it still be mounted?
[09:59] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: oh, you mean start gui from tty...I don't know that one, but I think you were close
[09:59] <rand_acs> lovre: no
[09:59] <lovre> ok, thank you
[09:59] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[09:59] <rand_acs> you have to put it in the /etc.fstab file
[09:59] <intelikey> posingaspopular ^
[09:59] <posingaspopular> right but how do i get to /etc.fstab
[09:59] <posingaspopular> kon
[09:59] <dromer> intelikey: hmm, I see now that there are 25 packages that need upgrading .. I didn't have that before (tried to update/upgrade but there was nothing then)
[10:00] <posingaspopular> i cant get to any konsole
[10:00] <dromer> intelikey: weird, running the upgrades first ..
[10:00] <dromer> then I'll try reboot ..
[10:01] <intelikey> dromer normal        i don't like it, but it's normal.     i've seen apt have to install things so it could remove them....
[10:01] <VousDeux> posingaspopular: can you get to a tty by typing ctrl+alt+f2 for example
[10:01] <dromer> intelikey: it first removen mdadm, now runnig the upgrades after that
[10:02] <cptnspoon> Hey all, a little help if anyone can!
[10:02] <dromer> intelikey: it's small stuff like gnome-screensaver (still have a shitload of gnome-packages.. I started this system with Ubuntu Dapper ;) )
[10:02] <Hamra> im not that smart with the console, is there a way to let "rm" answer "y" automatically to all questions, it is going to ask me about every write-protected file im deleting, and these are hundreds!
[10:02] <intelikey> dromer i'm just about out of time here.   i sure hope that does it for you.....
[10:02] <dromer> ey, small and general question: why isn't there a Kubuntu Studio ?
[10:02] <intelikey> Hamra  -g
[10:02] <dromer> intelikey: ok, hopefully this'll work out yes .. :(
[10:02] <VousDeux> Hamra: rm -rf
[10:02] <intelikey> err  -f
[10:02] <cptnspoon> I've just upgraded to Gutsy, had a heap of packages with errors in them however I've finally got things working BUT the NVidia drivers won't seem to work?
[10:03] <Hamra> thnks
[10:03] <intelikey> VousDeux no !   he didn't ask for recursive
[10:03] <VousDeux> okay
[10:03] <cptnspoon> Would anyone be able to give me a hand getting my video card to work? I've tried a few methods already including using Envy
[10:03] <miir> hello
[10:03] <intelikey> doing that un-intentionally can hose a system VousDeux
[10:04] <VousDeux> okay
[10:04] <RytmenPinnen> helo again, Im on the live cd now
[10:05]  * dromer reboot again ..
[10:05] <miir> I'm having trouble connecting trhough wlan =/ it worked perfectly under ubuntu gutsy , yesterday. Using a broadcom adapter with the restricted drivers , bcm43fwcutter and so on ...
[10:05] <RytmenPinnen> If I choose to install now do I have format my hdd_
[10:05] <posingaspopular> weaksauce
[10:05] <posingaspopular> ctrlaltf2 froze it compelty
[10:05] <cptnspoon> Anyone want to give me a bit of help getting my nvidia card to work? It was working fine under Feisty
[10:06] <miir> I can find and see my acesspoint , but when I try to connect it frezees at 28% ...
[10:06] <miir> I've searched the forums , but found no answer
[10:06] <miir> anyone ? =)
[10:07] <VousDeux> yuck
[10:07] <Lynoure> miir: guess: your access point does not offer dhcp
[10:07] <charlie5> cptnspoon: i had to reinstall the driver from nvidia manually after upgrade
[10:08] <miir> That's the thing ... it does ... and it worked under xp and ubuntu 7.10 , just hour ago , and my other laptop can access without any trouble
[10:08] <miir> hours *
[10:08] <voicu> are there really so few people playing atlantik?
[10:08] <cptnspoon> charlie5: I thought that is what Envy would do for me, but even it seems to be broken. I guess I'll try the manual way again, I just remember last time it was a bit tricky.
[10:09] <Lynoure> miir: What's the status text for 28%?
[10:09] <voicu> aren't there some servers with a decent number of players?
[10:09] <intelikey> dromer progress report ?
[10:10] <dromer> :(
[10:10] <Lynoure> voicu: I have never even heard of atlantik...
[10:10] <charlie5> cptnspoon: i know how you feel ... i tried a lot of different ways to get it to work, but in the end doing it manually worked, so i stick with that now ... yell out if you run into any trouble :D
[10:10] <dromer> I got the other 'error' I got last night again
[10:10] <intelikey> wihch is ?
[10:10] <intelikey> which
[10:10] <VousDeux> miir: anything interesting in the syslog?
[10:10] <cptnspoon> charlie5: cheers! I will!!
[10:11] <RytmenPinnen> VousDeux: If I choose to install kubuntu from the live session now, Do I have to format my hdd then?
[10:11] <dromer> a screen filled with: [########] (numbers that are climbing) device-mapper: table: 254:3 Linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[10:11] <dromer> which just keeps going and going
[10:11] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: I'm not sure, I think you do
[10:11] <dromer> it's either that or I get the root-shell from which I can quit and get to tty
[10:11] <miir> " Activating Wireless Network Connection" Digital World (eth1) 28% , Activation stage: Configurng device
[10:11] <miir> that's all the information it gives
[10:11] <miir> And then just gives me a "Connection Failure" box
[10:11] <miir> how can I check the syslog ? =)
[10:12] <RytmenPinnen> crapp, What about partitioning, does it automaticly make my home folder separate?
[10:12] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: that's why I like to keep multiple partitions, because some partitions do not have to be formatted
[10:12] <Minnozz> cat /var/log/syslog | less
[10:12] <voicu> lynoure: i tried it now for the first time. it's a monopoly based game where you can with people online
[10:12] <intelikey> yeah it's definitly mdadm/udev related then. dromer file a bug on that whether you do or don't get it fixed.    but i'm gonna have to 'WENT' whether i like it or dont
[10:13] <dromer> I can't file anything atm .. I don't have a desktop ..
[10:13] <dromer> :(
[10:13] <RytmenPinnen> but couldnt I somehow be able to partiotion my old home folder now and install on the other one?
[10:13] <dromer> later intelikey
[10:13] <dromer> thnx for the help anyway :P
[10:13] <intelikey> dromer sorry i couldn't "fix" it for you.    good luck with it.
[10:13] <dromer> :'(
[10:14] <adminn> can you guys do me a favor? im trying to find ubuntu open chat
[10:14] <intelikey> someone else maybe can.
[10:14] <RytmenPinnen> is the manual partitioning hard to do?
[10:14] <adminn> rytmen im in ubuntu and it was sooo easy I have a dual boot pc
[10:14] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: if you have free space, you could create a new partion and then copy your /home to it
[10:15] <RytmenPinnen> ah, well, I dont have that :D
[10:15] <adminn> you only need the swap 2gb and \=home should be 8 with no extra room
[10:15] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, I guess my files are gonna have to go then, ohwell, nothing important there really
[10:15] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: it's not hard, but it does take a little planning
[10:15] <guillermo> hello
[10:15] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: can you put any on cd? or a jump drive?
[10:15] <RytmenPinnen> btw, VousDeux can I acces my hdd from the live session?
[10:15] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: or a network share?
[10:16] <RytmenPinnen> eventually yes
[10:16] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: yea i think so
[10:16] <adminn> do you guys know the ubuntu open chat room?
[10:16] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: yes, you can
[10:16] <guillermo> adept keeps showing me the version upgrade button even when i am aldready using gusty
[10:16] <posingaspopular> adminn: you mean #ubuntu ?
[10:16] <RytmenPinnen> how, I cant seem to find it in dolpin
[10:16] <adminn> polpular no
[10:16] <adminn> I cant get in lol
[10:16] <VousDeux> guillermo: that will go away...they know about it
[10:17] <adminn> .. #ubuntu-open or close
[10:17] <posingaspopular> ive never heard of this chan
[10:17] <guillermo> VousDeux tres bien
[10:17] <VousDeux> guillermo: welcome
[10:17] <adminn> cus someone said #ubuntu is for tech help not general chat
[10:17] <posingaspopular> adminn: ah you mean offtopic
[10:18] <adminn> yes!! ty :D
[10:18] <posingaspopular> #ubuntu-offtopic, #kubuntu-offtopic, #xubuntu-offtopic
[10:18] <posingaspopular> etc
[10:18] <guillermo> +R
[10:18] <posingaspopular> adminn: sorry its 4am over here
[10:19] <adminn> Popular at least you got me there ty lol :)
[10:19] <posingaspopular> np
[10:19] <VousDeux> I should have been asleep hours ago...it's after 5
[10:19] <posingaspopular> i hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic a lot
[10:19] <Hamra> posingaspopular: you must really like your linux system, what are you still doing awake at 4 am?
[10:19] <RytmenPinnen> VousDeux: I found the HDD but it, in the bottom of dolpin it says hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[10:19] <franx> hi there, i couldnt help noticing that on the kubuntu logon screen it shows all the users for the system in gutsy. how do i turn the showing of users on the left?
[10:19] <posingaspopular> Hamra: trying to fix bugs. hw on 'free culture' by lawrence lessig. building a spot spot this afternoon-too excited to sleep
[10:20] <fdoving> franx: how to turn it off?
[10:20] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: you may have to do a sudo mount
[10:20] <RytmenPinnen> k
[10:21] <ubuntu> Noob question: How is the Compiz fusion enabled in Kubuntu (GUI method preferred)
[10:21] <winchesterPAT> when will thumb drive / useb drive ubunti is gona come out ?
[10:21] <Hamra> good luck with your work
[10:21] <Hamra> does the online upgrade to gutsy support pausing?
[10:21] <posingaspopular> Thanks Hamra
[10:21] <VousDeux> ubuntu: you have to install the config manager software for compiz
[10:22] <miir> I found something ^
[10:22] <miir> main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' <--- a few rows of errors like that
[10:22] <ubuntu> VousDeux: Advanced Desktop Effects Settings_
[10:22] <miir> want all the error lines ?
[10:22] <VousDeux> ubuntu: yeah, that
[10:23] <ubuntu> VousDeux: yeah ive done that. It opens up empty
[10:23] <VousDeux> but to start it I only know to type compiz --replace &
[10:24] <posingaspopular> woah i just heard the most henous cat hiss of my life. scared me silly... erm i mean, kubuntu support, kubuntu support
[10:24] <ubuntu> VousDeux: hm, thats not too cool...
[10:24] <VousDeux> miir: you might be better off trying to search online for that error
[10:24] <ubuntu> VousDeux: Damn, ubuntu should focus more on KDE and less on Gnome
[10:26] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, Cant seem to find the system:/media folder in the terminal
[10:26] <VousDeux> my Advanced Desktop Effects Settings if full of stuff....too much stuff if you asked me
[10:26] <RytmenPinnen> sudo mount hda1 just gives me a "cant find system:/sdösjdglksdjglkdjfg/..........." error
[10:27] <VousDeux> try sudo mount /dev/hda1
[10:27] <RytmenPinnen> same thing :( mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:28] <VousDeux> should be just /media, not system:/media
[10:28] <VousDeux> err...perhaps the system: designation has something to do with the live cd
[10:28] <nmjohnso> naon /etc/fstab and see ify ou can see the drive there
[10:28] <nmjohnso> nano*
[10:29] <franx> fdoving: i dont want people to see who are valid users in my system on the logon screen
[10:29] <VousDeux> huh, that's weird...I've always just been able to click an icon that appeared on the desktop to access the local disk
[10:29] <RytmenPinnen> there is something there, but im not sure I understand it all
[10:30] <RytmenPinnen> "/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 , tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0 and unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0"
[10:31] <chrissi> hello
[10:31] <Hamra> use "disk and filesystems" from system settings
[10:31] <Hamra> mount them from there
[10:31] <chrissi> some question: after a reboot
[10:31] <Lynoure> franx: you can install theme manager for kdm, and use a theme that does not have a user list
[10:31] <chrissi> the usb ports of my kubuntu 7.04 seems to be deactiveted
[10:31] <chrissi> i've just installed virtualbox
[10:32] <chrissi> anybody who can help me?
[10:32] <chrissi> anything i can test?
[10:32] <RytmenPinnen> its there
[10:32] <pag> chrissi, just a guess: try adding " usb-handoff " as kernel boot option.
[10:33] <posingaspopular> check your hardware to see if its being recognized too
[10:33] <posingaspopular> lshw
[10:33] <jonasp> hey, is it just me or isnt cut/paste working with dolphin?
[10:33] <chrissi> br
[10:33] <chrissi> b
[10:35] <dystopianray> i switched konq back to default becuase dolphin was a POS
[10:35] <Hamra> if i upgrade to gutsy, will i have the option to make konqueror my file browser? i dont think im going to get along with this dolphin!
[10:35] <posingaspopular> Hamra: i upgraded and it's till konqi
[10:35] <posingaspopular> i think dolphin is for clean installs, but im not sure
[10:35] <dystopianray> Hamra: yes you can make konqueror the default very easily
[10:35] <guillermo> my web cam has been detected wrongly?
[10:35] <kaminix> Anyone have a good howto for fixing PHP5 + Apache2 + MySQL?
[10:35] <dystopianray> kaminix: what is wrong with it?
[10:36] <jonasp> posingaspopular: i upgraded and for me its dolphin
[10:36] <guillermo> i mean it says i got a camera i dont,.. and it does not work
[10:36] <Hamra> thank you
[10:36] <kaminix> dystopianray: Ah, sorry, might've mixed some Swedish grammar into that sentence. Set it all up I mean.
[10:36] <posingaspopular> jonasp: nah its def. konqi
[10:36] <Eli-> anyone here installed kubuntu 7.10 on d610?
[10:37] <posingaspopular> i'll fight you over this too ;p
[10:37] <jonasp> well, for me it isnt. and i upgraded ;)
[10:37] <nmjohnso> is there anyway to back up the ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to recompile it again?
[10:37] <grul> !apache
[10:37] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:37] <combo> !pastebin
[10:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <jonasp> maybe you still hava a konqueror button in your taskbar
[10:38] <jonasp> that will start konqueror ofc
[10:38] <kaminix> grul: thanks. :)
[10:38] <fdoving> franx: edit /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings - make the second line read: THEME="/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu-no-userlist"
[10:38] <VousDeux> that lshw output looks like some interesting reading :)
[10:38] <posingaspopular> jonasp: whats the diff.?
[10:39] <posingaspopular> because you're right
[10:39] <kaminix> grul: No howto for Gutsy there though, same as on feisty?
[10:39] <nmjohnso> is there a way to back up the ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to recompile it?
[10:39] <grul> i don't know, i suppose it can't be that different
[10:39] <dystopianray> kaminix: should be almost exactly the same
[10:40] <dystopianray> kaminix: it's basically just installing a handful of packages and you're ready to go
[10:40] <kaminix> Okay, got it. :) Thanks. :)
[10:40] <kreib> kubuntu is upgradable to 2.6.22  now? with kde 4?
[10:40] <dystopianray> kreib: gutsy uses linux 2.6.22 and has kde 4 available
[10:40] <franx> fdoving: heyt thanks for that
[10:41] <jonasp> posingaspopular: i use the "Quick File Browser" applet. this one launches dolphin as default now - before it was dolphin. if you have a simple konqueror button all it does is launch the konqueror application.
[10:41] <kreib> i see, not possible to upgrade from 704 ?
[10:41] <kaminix> Oh, by the way, why is Firefox 3 in the repos?
[10:41] <dystopianray> kreib: yes you most certainly can upgrade
[10:41] <dystopianray> kaminix: why not?
[10:41] <jonasp> posingaspopular: so even if dolphin is the default application for opening folders you will use konqueror most of the time.
[10:41] <kaminix> dystopianray: Because it's not out yet?
[10:41] <kreib> ok, great. how?
[10:41] <dystopianray> kaminix: neither is kde4
[10:41] <RytmenPinnen> VousDeux: I fixed it by doing sudo mkdir /media/sda1 and then sudo mount dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:42] <RytmenPinnen> not sure if its too wise but I can acces it now :P
[10:42] <combo> how can i install *.deb package in 7.10 ? i have such information about libc6 and ldconfig ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41306/  :/
[10:42] <kaminix> dystopianray: But KDE4 is in Beta, Firefox three is in alpha?
[10:42] <nmjohnso> guess no one knows
[10:42] <nmjohnso> eh
[10:42] <winchesterPAT> wich is better SELinux or AppArmor ?
[10:42] <dystopianray> kaminix: alpha/beat it's all largely arbitrary
[10:42] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: oh, haha...I should have known we needed to supply a destination for the mount...just adds to the fact that I should be sleeping
[10:43] <kaminix> When is Firefox 3 due to release anyway?
[10:43] <posingaspopular> jonasp: i reject your claim because it is not in line with proliteriat interests
[10:43] <dystopianray> winchesterPAT: SELinux is probably technically superior, but apparmour is still quite good
[10:43] <jonasp> ?
[10:43] <RytmenPinnen> haha :D
[10:43] <combo> i mean last two lines are unusual :]
[10:43] <winchesterPAT> does any of them have GUI configurator ?
[10:44] <dystopianray> winchesterPAT: probably not, i don't know, there are guis for setting ACLs
[10:44] <kreib> in kubuntu, how to upgrade to 2.6.22 ?
[10:45] <dystopianray> kreib: you have to upgrade to gutsy
[10:45] <kreib> yes, I mean gutsy, how is ti done
[10:45] <winchesterPAT> why arnet there any huis for it ?
[10:45] <kaminix> Do I need php5 and php4? Isn't 5 enough?
[10:45] <dystopianray> kaminix: php5 is enough
[10:45] <nmjohnso> can i back up ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to compile it again?
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> which version of kde is gutsy using?
[10:46] <kaminix> TheGateKeeper: 3.5.8
[10:46] <dystopianray> TheGateKeeper: 3.5.8 and has 4.0beta3 in the repos
[10:46] <TheGateKeeper> ok thanks guys
[10:46] <posingaspopular> Jucato: ping?
[10:47] <winchesterPAT> i needf XACLs
[10:47] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:47] <fit4lfe> trying to upgrade from feisty to gusty using update-manager -c -d
[10:48] <fit4lfe> it gets through upgrading then error
[10:48] <posingaspopular> isn't is just update-manager -c
[10:48] <Thonolan> good morning i have a problem with my adept_updater i want to have it back into my systemtray .I can start it with a command : adept_updater but i want it to have it automaticly at systemstart
[10:48] <fit4lfe> in the log says one of the repos is not a trusted source
[10:48] <Thonolan> and apologize my bad englishplease
[10:50] <fit4lfe> in the log says one of the repos is not a trusted source
[10:50] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:50] <rand_acs> lol, now my amarokapp also died, out of the blue...
[10:50] <VousDeux> the only bad english is pig-latin
[10:51] <posingaspopular> Thonolan: go to the kmenu->system-adept and RIGHT click on it
[10:51] <Thonolan> posingaspopular: ok..
[10:52] <guillermo> I have been trying 2 days to installa java runtime enviroment without succes can anyone hlp me?
[10:52] <posingaspopular> system->adept *
[10:52] <posingaspopular> guillermo: what commands?
[10:52] <dystopianray> guillermo: which version of the runtime do you want?
[10:52] <posingaspopular> !java
[10:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:52] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:52] <guillermo> i am trying to play a cards game on the internet and it asksme for JRE, but when i intalla it from adept it still does not work
[10:53] <fit4lfe> trying to upgrade to 7.10 using dist-upgrade
[10:53] <dystopianray> guillermo: which browser are you using?
[10:53] <rand_acs> so the amarok problem anyone have a solution?
[10:53] <dystopianray> guillermo: and which jre did you install?
[10:53] <guillermo> firefox
[10:53] <posingaspopular> rand_acs: not that i know of
[10:53] <guillermo> the one listed on adept
[10:53] <TheGateKeeper> guillermo: probable best done from the command line (using apt-get)
[10:54] <posingaspopular> me too thouhg. no fun.
[10:54] <dystopianray> guillermo: which is?
[10:54] <rand_acs> posingaspopular: great, so it was working one restart ago, now it's dead...
[10:54] <Thonolan> posingaspopular: how can i set that the adept_updater starts at systemstartautomaticly ?
[10:54] <rand_acs> I think this update in sync witt ubuntu standard is a bad idea
[10:55] <guillermo> it says sun-java 6 bin
[10:55] <fit4lfe> the logs say that one of my repositories is untrusted ?
[10:55] <jabba80> hello
[10:55] <fit4lfe> do you need a key to upgrade to gusty ?
[10:55] <posingaspopular> Thonolan: i dont see an option
[10:55] <rand_acs> it's just not nearly stable enough :(
[10:55] <dystopianray> guillermo: install the sun-java6-plugin package
[10:55] <jabba80> anyone good at mencoder and lavc?
[10:56] <posingaspopular> adept usually only starts when there are changes that need to be made to the system
[10:56] <RytmenPinnen> where in root is the trash located?
[10:56] <jabba80>  am trying to encode some cartoon in DivX. i did it like this: http://rafb.net/p/MxB12639.html
[10:56] <Thonolan> posingaspopular: ok thanks for trying to help
[10:56] <edulix> hi
[10:56] <jabba80> but in the resulting video, straight lines look very "pixeled" (sorry for my bad english)
[10:56] <edulix> does kubuntu have an interface to enable xgl?
[10:56] <jabba80> can anybody tell me why? and if there is sth. like a blur-filter which one xould use to make the result look smoother? or am i doing it wrong at all?
[10:56] <guillermo> dystopianray installing...
[10:56] <fit4lfe> do you need a key to upgrade to gusty ?
[10:57] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:57] <fit4lfe> trying to upgrade to 7.10 using dist-upgrade
[10:57] <dystopianray> guillermo: also open a terminal and run 'java -version', what version does it say?
[10:57] <jabba80> omg.. nothing btut gutsy today :D
[10:57]  * dromer tried that too .. and it went horribly :(
[10:57] <guillermo> adept is still intalling ahould i open the terminal after the install?
[10:58] <lovre> whenever i move something or open a window, i hear a silent but hearable sound from my computer. Why is that? Is it normal?
[10:58] <dystopianray> guillermo: this is entirely independant of adept, do it now
[10:58] <dromer> first I could only get in TTY, now I could start is with sudo, so I'm in gnome now :/
[10:58] <dystopianray> lovre: noise over the pci bus that is affecting your sound card
[10:58] <posingaspopular> franx: stillhere?
[10:59] <guillermo> the installa is finisched and the terminal answers java veriosn "1.6.0.03
[10:59] <posingaspopular> i might have an answer for you
[10:59] <lovre> dystopianray: but i dont hear it from speakers, but from within computer, somewhere around motherboard...
[10:59] <dystopianray> guillermo: restart firefox and try your game again
[10:59] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:59] <xenol> plz what r advantages of having apparmor enabled?
[10:59] <dystopianray> lovre: is your hdd or cdrom?
[10:59] <kaminix> "Edit PHP Configuration to Work With MYSQL (Ubuntu Dapper)" <--- Will I need this in Gutsy too?
[11:00] <dystopianray> kaminix: if i recall correctly it should be setup for mysql by default
[11:01] <RytmenPinnen> VousDeux: you still here? I've freed up 20 gigs now, shall I know make a partition of that and copy stuff there, Or can I simply install gutsy on that partition and keep the other partion,
[11:01] <dystopianray> kaminix: you just need to install the php5-mysql package
[11:01] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: maybe #ubuntu can help me, im not sure anyone in here hasa definative answer
[11:01] <Hamra> can i download the packages needed for the upgrade seperatly, put them somewhere, and when they are all on my hard drive, use them for the upgrade? i dont think i can donload 670 mb at one time!
[11:01] <guillermo> it works
[11:01] <guillermo> thanks a lot
[11:01] <kaminix> dystopianray: Thanks :)
[11:03] <posingaspopular> Hamra: ive heard the question before
[11:03] <posingaspopular> dont remmeber the answer
[11:03] <genux_kubuntu> lo.. trying to update to 7.10 from 7.04 and on the modifying the software channels it gets stuck on 38/59 file fetching ? any ideas
[11:03] <posingaspopular> who asked about apparmor?
[11:04] <dromer> any idea why, after the upgrade, root thinks that 2 of my partitions (of which one is /home) are busy and can't be mounted?
[11:04] <cptn_spoon> I'm back! Installed the Nvidia driver manually and am getting the same issue. Resultion is now okay and graphics card is listed correctly but the screen redraws so SLOWLY!
[11:04] <fit4lfe> posingaspopular trying that channel too
[11:04] <dromer> because of it I can't boot into x, I can however get into TTY and start X as root .. but ofcourse I don't want this ..
[11:04] <rand_acs> Hamra: I think there is an explanation on the upgrade page
[11:05] <Hamra> im digging through the support pages, lets hope something helps, thanks for trying anyway
[11:05] <cptn_spoon> Anyone got any idea on this? Just to maximize Konversation the window takes about 5 seconds to draw itself
[11:05] <rand_acs> Hamra: I do that with my BSD boxes :)
[11:06] <dystopianray> cptn_spoon: do you have 3d acceleration?
[11:06] <cptn_spoon> Firefox seems to work fine though, but the KMenu has this flickering thing going on
[11:06] <cptn_spoon> I have a GeForce 4 and I've just installed the nvidia drivers from scratch
[11:06] <genux_kubuntu> lo.. trying to update to 7.10 from 7.04 and on the modifying the software channels it gets stuck on 38/59 file fetching ? any ideas
[11:07] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: yea i honestly dont know
[11:07] <Hamra> i'll download the alternate CD, i can pause it's download aytime with kget, right?
[11:07] <dystopianray> Hamra: yeah kget should support resusuming
[11:07] <fit4lfe> this sucks
[11:08] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: thats a package right?
[11:08] <Hamra> thanks
[11:08] <ndrea> Hi, I'm getting again an error I had two days ago, everytime I close dolphin...
[11:08] <posingaspopular> search ubuntu package manager
[11:08] <ndrea> Unable to save bookmarks in /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied.
[11:08] <fit4lfe> posingaspopular: is the repo outdated
[11:08] <fit4lfe> yeah using update-manager
[11:09] <kaminix> MySQL is faster that SQLite, right? Using MySQL for Amarok will yield better performance, right?
[11:09] <ndrea> I remember it was solved just with one command on the Konsole... but I don't remeber which was. Could someone help me?
[11:09] <fit4lfe> no sqlite is faster
[11:09] <cptn_spoon> Anyone got any ideas? I've tried installing the nvidia package a few times, tried using Envy and now installed them straight from the nvidia site with their .run package but something is definitely up. It all worked fine with feisty.
[11:09] <kaminix> So I should use sqlite instead?
[11:10] <dystopianray> kaminix: leave amarok to the default
[11:10] <kaminix> Okay. :)
[11:10] <dystopianray> kaminix: if you want to do db stuff with php then use mysql or postgresql
[11:10] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: search through packages.ubuntu.com and see fi you can find any relevent date
[11:10] <SlipperyJim> ndrea: chmod
[11:11] <posingaspopular> or can you just delete the repo althoughter and tell gusty to stop paying it attention?
[11:11] <kaminix> I installed MySQL for wiki, just thought I'd get a bonus performance boost using the same database for Amarok. :)
[11:12] <dystopianray> kaminix: any performance boost would only matter if you had an enormous collection and were constantly running queries over it
[11:12] <dystopianray> kaminix: once you have a playlist and music is playing, mysql does nothing for you
[11:12] <kaminix> Oh... didn't know that.
[11:12] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone for help me configuring my microphone please?
[11:13] <dystopianray> kaminix: the different databases are only for managing the amarok collection, nothing to do with playback or anything else
[11:13] <fit4lfe> looks like it  might be a bug in update-manager
[11:13] <kaminix> I see. But does it not record playdata in the database all the time dystopianray?
[11:13] <fit4lfe> but i am also using nxserver right now and that might be part of the problem
[11:13] <rand_acs> fit4lfe: well, my adept is crashing left, right and center so I wouldn't be surprised
[11:14] <fit4lfe> just you get it to upgrade at leaset
[11:14] <fit4lfe> least
[11:14] <dromer> gah, my desktop is now so fucked-up :(
[11:14] <ndrea> slipperyjim: could you give me the whole command please?
[11:14] <fit4lfe> you might have to do a xserver configure for video for gusty
[11:14] <SlipperyJim> umm...
[11:15] <dystopianray> kaminix: yes, but one bit of data every 3-4 minutes is so insignificant
[11:15] <posingaspopular> ndrea: sudo
[11:15] <dystopianray> kaminix: the main reason you'd use mysql is to have multiple machines sharing the same collection or to query the collection from php or some other programming language
[11:16] <kaminix> dystopianray: Oh, I see. I thought I'd remember older Amarok versions telling my MySQL is faster but not as easy to setup.
[11:16] <RytmenPinnen> could some go to disk and file settings and check what settings there should be for the tmp partioin, mine dissappeared
[11:16] <xenol> hello. i got probs with OOo when i try to open some odt file it launches document recovery. any clues?
[11:16] <posingaspopular> xenol: me too
[11:16] <posingaspopular> no clue
[11:16] <fit4lfe>  I can't even do a dist-upgrade to 7.10 wtf
[11:16] <posingaspopular> except.... never close 000
[11:17] <fit4lfe> isn't sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:17] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: are you doing updatemanager -c -d
[11:17] <fit4lfe> yeah
[11:17] <xenol> posingaspopular:  u discovered this after upgrade to gutsy?
[11:17] <fit4lfe> update-manager -c -d
[11:17] <posingaspopular> sudp apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:17] <RytmenPinnen> could some go to disk and file settings and check what settings there should be for the tmp partioin, mine dissappeared when I tried to add a partition
[11:17] <RytmenPinnen> *partition
[11:18] <winchesterPAT> any one using LVM with enciption ?
[11:18] <winchesterPAT> encription
[11:18] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: one sexc
[11:18] <serega> Hi guys
[11:18] <fit4lfe> yep upgrade done
[11:18] <fit4lfe> lool
[11:18] <fit4lfe> lol
[11:19] <dystopianray> kaminix: it's not the type of 'faster' that you'd actually notice
[11:19] <fit4lfe> grrrrr
[11:19] <TimS> I created a file with mencoder, it runs perfecty and looks okay to me, but the size of the orignal is 60mb and the new one is 34kb, how can I get this to update
[11:19] <posingaspopular> that foesnt work for me
[11:19] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: you serious
[11:19] <fit4lfe> yep
[11:19] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: it doesnt show anything for me
[11:19] <serega> does anybody know what happened with laptop special keys in gutsy? :(
[11:19] <fit4lfe> thats cause it doesn't work
[11:19] <winchesterPAT> The Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Linux client requires people to copy over the media pak files from the Windows PC version of the game. :D
[11:19] <RytmenPinnen> press administrator mode
[11:19] <fit4lfe> there are special dist-upgrade commands
[11:20] <posingaspopular> !permissions | ndrea
[11:20] <ubotu> ndrea: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:20] <fit4lfe> !dist-upgrade
[11:20] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:21] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: i know, but when i put in my password, i dont see anything at all
[11:21] <posingaspopular> no changes
[11:21] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: now you know. never ever use a gui for dist upgrade
[11:21] <RytmenPinnen> aha, hmm
[11:21] <posingaspopular> i was just about to tell you that
[11:21] <fit4lfe> yeah well the command  line itsn't working either
[11:21] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone for help me configuring my microphone please?
[11:21] <winchesterPAT> Linux Filesystem_Hierarchy sucks
[11:22] <fit4lfe> I do have the cd image though
[11:22] <cptn_spoon> I cant get my Geforce4 to work in Gutsy...any ideas? I've tried installing the nvidia package a few times, tried using Envy and now installed them straight from the nvidia site with their .run package but something is definitely up. It all worked fine with feisty.
[11:22] <fit4lfe> i could use that
[11:22] <fit4lfe> to upgrade
[11:22] <serega> BrightEyes: what problems?
[11:22] <rand_acs> even my menu editor is broken
[11:22] <fit4lfe> should be able to just mount it right ?
[11:23] <xenol> i got probs with OOo when i try to open some odt file it launches document recovery. any clues?
[11:23] <posingaspopular> xenol: search launchpad bugs
[11:23] <combo> !ATI
[11:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:23] <posingaspopular> BrightEyes`: is there a 'configure hardware' somewhere in kubuntu
[11:23] <posingaspopular> i coulda sworn....
[11:24] <dystopianray> posingaspopular: what do you want to configure?
[11:24] <posingaspopular> dystopianray: BrightEyes` needs help configuring a mic
[11:24] <BrightEyes`> posingaspopular: where is that configure hardware?
[11:24] <RytmenPinnen> Does anyone know how to setup a /tmp partition, Mine dissappeared after I tried to add a new partiotio n
[11:25] <posingaspopular> system-kubuntu device manager
[11:25] <posingaspopular> i think
[11:25] <Kachna> guys,just a question....
[11:25] <posingaspopular> its not launching for me though
[11:25] <dystopianray> BrightEyes`: you probably just need to change a few things in alsamixer
[11:25] <ubuntu_> Just installed kubuntu gutsy, adept doenloaded restricted packages for nvidia I tried to correct the wanted resolution, in systems settings-monitor, it asked to restart x config on rebooting I am stuck the display is full of text help me!
[11:25] <posingaspopular> go figure
[11:25] <Kachna> what the hell is kde4 for windows?!
[11:25] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_: dont panic
[11:25] <dystopianray> Kachna: it's kde4 for windows
[11:25] <posingaspopular> type in
[11:25] <serega> heh
[11:25] <serega> port og libraries
[11:25] <serega> *of
[11:25] <cptn_spoon> ubotu: I've followwed everything there and its still not working. all windows redraw so slowly
[11:25] <Kachna> dystopianray: omg -.-
[11:25] <dystopianray> Kachna: you dont' like kde?
[11:25] <posingaspopular> sudo /etc/mitd/?dm restart
[11:25] <TimS> Jucato: Whats the command line to find out the size of a file? Is there a option like ls that will show details like size?
[11:25] <posingaspopular> that should work.....
[11:26] <serega> this means that you can run KDE4 application on windows
[11:26] <Kachna> dystopianray: i do,but i'm curious what is it for on win :-/
[11:26] <Kachna> serega: mmm interesting
[11:26] <wesley> how can i unlock adept it did crashed
[11:26] <rinaldi> hey is there still anyone having problems upgrading to 7.10?
[11:26] <dystopianray> Kachna: it's for using kde4 in windows
[11:26] <BrightEyes`> posingaspopular: it doesnt configure my mic.i ve done all the tests now and nothing
[11:26] <posingaspopular> rinaldi: how are you trying to do it
[11:27] <rand_acs> uhm... ok restartig KDE makes amarok play again...
[11:27] <Kachna> dystopianray: yep i understand...just sounds like a strange combination...
[11:27] <posingaspopular> BrightEyes`: ive never used any mic for a computer... l/
[11:27] <rinaldi> using adept but theres no version upgrade button
[11:27] <posingaspopular> :/
[11:27] <posingaspopular> rinaldi: its easier to do it with a konsole or command line
[11:27] <serega> see ya, gutsy guys ;)
[11:27] <cptn_spoon> Does anyone else actually have the "Restricted Drivers" menu from the System Settings > Advanced window? It's not there on mine. Does that mean Gutsy hasn't updated properly??
[11:27] <riky> Hi i have a problem with the layout of my keybord infact when i install Kubuntu i set the italina layout but after some deys the layout of keybord change in US ayout keybord ho can i change in italian layout keybord?thankyou very match
[11:27] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get upgrate && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:28] <rand_acs> I think it might be less buggy to try out KDE 4.0
[11:28] <rinaldi> iv tried forcing the version upgrade using kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[11:28] <rand_acs> !KDE 4.0
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde 4.0 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <wesley> can someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database
[11:28] <dystopianray> riky: system settings -> regional and language -> keyboard layout
[11:28] <rand_acs> !KDE4
[11:28] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[11:28] <dystopianray> !kde4
[11:29] <posingaspopular> rinaldi: have you tried just doing a dist-upgrade in konsole?
[11:29] <rand_acs> think I'm going to try that package out :)
[11:29] <wesley> can someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database
[11:29] <rinaldi> posingaspopular: iv tried kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[11:29] <rinaldi> no il try that thanks
[11:29] <rand_acs> anyone here using it?
[11:30] <dystopianray> rand_acs: it's likely to be incomplete to the point where it is unusable
[11:30] <posingaspopular> rinaldi: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[11:30] <posingaspopular> run both
[11:30] <QwertyM> rand_acs: highly unusable :(
[11:30] <dystopianray> rand_acs: I have only used earlier betas though
[11:30] <rinaldi> posingaspopular: yeh im trying now
[11:30] <rand_acs> damn
[11:31] <posingaspopular> riky: maybe someone in ubuntu-italy can help you
[11:31] <wesley> can someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database
[11:31] <BrightEyes`> i cant get my mic work. alsamixer says that [Playback] Mic the volume is full. [Capture] Mic : L R Captur, only that for mic .what can i do
[11:31] <posingaspopular> !it | riky
[11:31] <ubotu> riky: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:32] <riky> tankyou
[11:33] <Pete^_> Anyone solved the problem with HUGE fonts at login?
[11:33] <wesley> can someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database
[11:34] <ksivaji> !adept-fix
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <Hamra> is there a CD burning tool in kubuntu? and what is generally the recommended program, im used to nero on windows.
[11:35] <ksivaji> Hamra k3b
[11:35] <pag> !aptfix | wesley
[11:35] <ubotu> wesley: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:36] <ksivaji> hi pag have you tried gutsy
[11:37] <RichardBH> hi - does anyone know how to turn off filtering in adept? It loads (fairly quickly) but then spends a few minutes filtering when I dont need it to
[11:37] <Ash-Fox> Gutsy for the win.
[11:37] <pag> ksivaji, I've been using it for a week :)
[11:37] <Ash-Fox> RichardBH, untick all the filter boxes.
[11:37] <RichardBH> Ash-Fox- thanks
[11:38] <RichardBH> ill try that after this update fails for the 5th time
[11:38] <dystopianray> Hamra: k3b is the best free cd/dvd burning tool on any system
[11:38] <dystopianray> Hamra: nero is available for linux, it supports hd-dvd and blu-ray burning
[11:38] <RichardBH> actually, unrelated question - how can i tell whether im on 7.04 or 7.10?
[11:38] <pag> !release | RichardBH
[11:38] <ubotu> RichardBH: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:38] <posingaspopular> RichardBH: lsb_release -a
[11:38] <posingaspopular> in konsole/termial
[11:39] <posingaspopular> run that command
[11:39] <RichardBH> the update closed on fetching updates three times, so i used adept to upgrade the 900 or so packages
[11:39] <pag> hmm... wrong factoid - sorry :\
[11:39] <RichardBH> and KDE has changed
[11:39] <Ash-Fox> RichardBH, if you're installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, it's best todo it win the console: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:39] <Ash-Fox> That way sun java won't screw up the install
[11:39] <RichardBH> but itll still letting me upgrade through adept
[11:39] <ubuntu_> Posing as popular: well your command for the desktop diplay did not work I am back on live cd
[11:39] <posingaspopular> to restart x
[11:40] <posingaspopular> so sorry let me get the correct one
[11:40] <posingaspopular> !x
[11:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:40] <RichardBH> ah, i am on 7.10...so why is the upgrade distribution button still there??
[11:40] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_: i told you /imt.d/ or something like that, that was my sloppy handwriting
[11:40] <posingaspopular> so sorry
[11:41] <ubuntu_> posingaspopular:I noted your command on paper , restarted, and now again rebooted on live cd dear
[11:41] <stdin> RichardBH: it's a known bug, just ignore it
[11:41] <ksivaji> RichardBH may be for 8.04 lol
[11:41] <ksivaji> stdin hi
[11:41] <posingaspopular> RichardBH: i had the same issue, something screwy like that
[11:41] <fit4lfe> !dist-upgrade
[11:41] <RichardBH> stdin: its still willing to upgrade/install another 35/4 packages :P
[11:41] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_: yea i gave you the wrong command, sorry
[11:42] <stdin> ksivaji: hey :)
[11:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:42] <soon> I need KMail to store my stuff on an external drive - where can I change the path for mail folders etc?
[11:42] <stdin> RichardBH: try with apt-get/adept
[11:42] <ubuntu_> imitd/?
[11:42] <BrightEyes`> H E L L O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A n y o n e  for help????????
[11:42] <stdin> !ask
[11:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:42] <wesley> is 5 gb not enough for kubuntu?
[11:42] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_: it should be /inti.d/
[11:42] <ksivaji> !caps
[11:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:42] <RichardBH> stdin- the upgrader hasnt crashed yet - i still have my fingers crossed:P
[11:43] <posingaspopular> wesley: depends on wheter or not you have a seperate /home partition
[11:43] <rand_acs> if I had $5 for every time I've ran ps -ef | grep this morning
[11:43] <wesley> i dont have a seperate /home partition in kubuntu
[11:43] <posingaspopular> well it should install
[11:43] <posingaspopular> but there just wont be lots of room
[11:43] <dystopianray> wesley: 5GB should be enough but won't leave much room for anything else
[11:43] <posingaspopular> !kubuntu
[11:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:44] <wesley> no its seems full now
[11:44] <RichardBH> sdin- ah no, frozen on the last file again
[11:44] <RichardBH> ...and closed
[11:44] <rand_acs> btw, after a few times restarting X kmail is working again
[11:45] <rand_acs> I bet it's some race condition problem
[11:47] <[Bart]> hi, maybe a stupid question (I'm debian user, not ubunut/kubuntu user), if you download the latest 7.10 Kubuntu release, does it contain a 'live cd'?
[11:47] <dystopianray> [Bart]: yes it does
[11:47] <[Bart]> dystopianray : perfect! thanks for the confirmation
[11:48] <rand_acs> btw, have anyone every fixed the issue with the menu bar system tray, that some icon doesn't get "locked" into it, but appear somewhere else on the desktop?
[11:48] <dystopianray> [Bart]: make sure you get the 'desktop' cd
[11:48] <[Bart]> I'll give it to my parents then :) anybody who runs this from a pentium I? if so, does it run smoothly?
[11:48] <zenum> Hey... i just upgraded to gutsy and firefox/swiftfox both have a really ugly black border around all the toolbars
[11:48] <dystopianray> [Bart]: you'll need at least 384MB of ram just to run the livecd
[11:48] <aotianlong> so many people here!
[11:49] <aotianlong> any chinese here?
[11:49] <Ingelsrud> no
[11:49] <stdin> !cn
[11:49] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[11:49] <[Bart]> dystopianray : oeps ..that's a problem. only 128m :)
[11:49] <aotianlong> thanks
[11:49] <aotianlong> try it.
[11:49] <Ingelsrud> im norwegian
[11:49] <dystopianray> [Bart]: then you'll need the altnerate installer cd, which isn't a livecd
[11:49] <aotianlong> #ubuntu-cn
[11:49] <zenum> is there any way i can get firefox to look nice again?
[11:49] <aotianlong> i'm just update to ubuntu 7.10
[11:50] <dystopianray> [Bart]: or get an external drive with a swap parittion hooked up to get it up past 384MB of total memory
[11:50] <aotianlong> it looks very good
[11:50] <RichardBH> dystopianray: is that different to the 7.04 one? I ran that on 320 ok
[11:50] <MaDiNfO_> hi
[11:50] <dystopianray> RichardBH: gutsy is supposed to use more memory than fiesty for some reason
[11:50] <RichardBH> ah, ok
[11:50] <[Bart]> dystopianray: ok, Then I'll just install it on the pc over there. Indeed I can add a lot of swap space..but not good for the performance of course
[11:50] <MaDiNfO_> anyone knows after upgrading to 7.1
[11:50] <MaDiNfO_> why does thing no longer compile ?
[11:50] <RichardBH> it seems to be running ok on said 320mb/300mhz processor :P
[11:50] <MaDiNfO_> ./configures cant find any headers..
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> MaDiNfO_: things like what?
[11:51] <MaDiNfO_> checking cdda_interface.h usability... no
[11:51] <MaDiNfO_> checking cdda_interface.h presence... no
[11:51] <MaDiNfO_> checking for cdda_interface.h... no
[11:51] <MaDiNfO_> for example
[11:52] <MaDiNfO_> and they are there
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> MaDiNfO_: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> although that may befrom a -dev package..
[11:52] <MaDiNfO_> build-essential is already the newest version.
[11:52] <edulix> I'm having trouble with xgl and kde. when I use kde with xgl in multiple system, It lways happened... meanwhile it works fine with gnome. keyboard. I want my keyboard in spanish, but despite I have kcontrol configure to spanish, my keyboard layout is still messed up. in gnome it works fine, how can I  copy keyboard layout from gnome to kde?
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> MaDiNfO_: what are you compiling?
[11:53] <MaDiNfO_> kaffeine
[11:53]  * E_mE is about to upgrae his laptop to Gutsy with KDE 4 :D
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> may I ask why?
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> because i need it :)
[11:54] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: why can't you use the kaffeine with gutsy? it is the latest version
[11:54] <nosrednaekim> MaDiNfO_: but its in the repositories
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> yes it is 0.8.5
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> i need SVN
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> :)
[11:54] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: why?
[11:54] <[Bart]> kde4? doesn't look very nice I find.. I like my 3.5 installation.. with compiz-fusion
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> i make some help coding it
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> :)
[11:56] <JohnFlux_> djdarkman: ping
[11:56] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: code up teletext support!
[11:56] <JohnFlux_> djdarkman: I added the option to change the units
[11:56] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: :)
[11:56] <MaDiNfO_> someday
[11:56] <RytmenPinnen> Hi again, new question: Can I make my /home folder a separate partition?
[11:56] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: yes
[11:56] <jabba80> if i am using "-ovc lavc" and "vcodec=xvid" with mencoder, is there any possibility to use xvid-specific options like "cartoon"?
[11:56] <dystopianray> RytmenPinnen: yes
[11:56] <posingaspopular> and i recomend you do
[11:56] <posingaspopular> so if you hose the os, you can still recover your data
[11:56] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: 1st u need to help me out
[11:56] <RytmenPinnen> posingaspopular:
[11:56] <posingaspopular> and you can mount /home to any distro
[11:57] <RytmenPinnen> can I do it form a live session
[11:57] <posingaspopular> .... i havent touched a live cd in months
[11:57] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: you're probably missing required -dev packages
[11:57] <posingaspopular> i want to so yes, but i dont want to get hit either
[11:57] <voicu> how do i check if X has randr enabled?
[11:57] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: no i am not
[11:57] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: try: sudo apt-get build-dep kaffeine
[11:57] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: yeah
[11:58] <RytmenPinnen> posingaspopular:  ah k, Well, the thing is the update tool trashed my system so now I'm sitting on a live session trying to figure out how to save my files
[11:58] <stdin> jabba80: use -xvidencopts
[11:58] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: libstreamer
[11:58] <posingaspopular> yea thats why /home is critical ;0
[11:58] <MaDiNfO_> not needed but ok
[11:58] <posingaspopular> my gutsy install is still all over the place too
[11:58] <RytmenPinnen> :P
[11:59] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: the same
[11:59] <MaDiNfO_> :)
[11:59] <ubuntu> posingaspopular: Dear the new command is also not working, and I dont know withiout gui how to go in console and type, I think I will reinstall once, if it works fine, or windows vista is the ultimate
[12:00] <contrast83> RytmenPinnen: I only suggest this as a last resort, but it worked for me - From the live CD, mount the hard drive if it isn't already, delete everything in it except /home, and rename /home to a folder that's not in the default filesystem, then install from the alternate cd, but do *not* format the drive
[12:00] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: you probably have it configured differently to how ubuntu does
[12:00] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, I see I guess that Could work
[12:00] <posingaspopular> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  isn't launching the graphics for you?
[12:01] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: so it has different build deps than ubuntu's version
[12:01] <ubuntu> No!
[12:01] <MaDiNfO_> erm
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: or you could just shrink the partition and reinstall
[12:01] <MaDiNfO_> how can i fix this ?
[12:01] <contrast83> RytmenPinnen: you have to use the alternate disc to install though. the live cd won't let you install to an unclean target
[12:01] <posingaspopular> really?!
[12:01] <posingaspopular> i have no idea how to fix your issue
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: you did replace the ? mark with kdm right?
[12:01] <RytmenPinnen> oh
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> *k
[12:02] <RytmenPinnen> witch is the alternate disc?
[12:02] <ubuntu> I even tried recivery mode typed the command their but failed to get the results
[12:02] <contrast83> nosrednaekim: that should work too. unfortunately, when i was in his situation, i couldn't get qparted or gparted to work, so i had to do the above.
[12:02] <jabba80> stdin: even if i use "-ovc lavc" and not "-ovc xvid"? Isn't that interfering?
[12:02] <posingaspopular> i fail
[12:02]  * nosrednaekim winders if anyone has heard of cfdisk
[12:02] <ubuntu> No
[12:02] <contrast83> not i
[12:03] <jabba80> thought "-xvidencopts" was only for "-ovc xvid"
[12:03] <kreib> upgrade to gutsy seems to hang at configuring ttf-dejavu, anyone seen the same ?
[12:03] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: try installing libcdparanoia0-dev
[12:03] <dystopianray> nosrednaekim: you nee help with cfdisk?
[12:04] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: libcdparanoia0-dev is already the newest version.
[12:04] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: did you run "/etc/init.d/kdm start"?
[12:04] <MaDiNfO_> anyway how can i check include dir in system ?
[12:04] <stdin> jabba80: it may be, not sure. but it's the only way I see to configure the codec options
[12:04] <jabba80> k
[12:04] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: can you configure it so it does not compile the cd ripping feature?
[12:04] <nosrednaekim> dystopianray: nah... certain others were saying that they couldn't get graprted working...so they had to resort to extreme things ;)
[12:04] <ubuntu>  nosrednaekim: I have to replace the question mark with 'K'?
[12:04] <jabba80> mencoder at least doesn't complain
[12:04] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: what do you mean with this? "or you could just shrink the partition and reinstall"
[12:05] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: yes i can but the problem is that configure can find anything in /usr/include
[12:05] <MaDiNfO_> even dvb
[12:05] <MaDiNfO_> or so
[12:05] <ubuntu>  nosrednaekim: so that is the right command sure?
[12:05] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: hrrm well i'm not sure
[12:05] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: erase everything but your /home on that partition, shrink it, and then make a new partition for /
[12:05] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: small k, but yes
[12:05] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim:  and that is "doable" fromt the live cd?
[12:05] <ubuntu> Than I need not reinstall
[12:06] <B-Minus> question : why are the firefox buttons like "google search" etc.. different than windows .. they look very old
[12:06] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: certainly
[12:06] <RytmenPinnen> sounds good to me
[12:06] <jabba80> stdin: with -sws 7  and scaling it does a nice result
[12:06] <jabba80> (even without cartoon) :D
[12:06] <stdin> nice :)
[12:06] <DaleksDivided> B-Minus: its the same with firefox on windows
[12:06] <ubuntu> After booting text lines running this and this comes one below another, and finaly the curser blinks without moving down, here I have to type the command right?
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> if it says something like "root@ubuntu$" yes
[12:07] <posingaspopular> nosrednaekim: why does ubuto say to /etc/init/?dm restart?
[12:07] <ubuntu> No it doesn,t, how do I go there
[12:08] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: becasue there is also GDM, which comes with ubuntu.
[12:08] <ubuntu> In recovery mode what you mentioned i could see that
[12:09] <ubuntu> Shall I go in recovery mode and type that command
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: ok, in non-recovery mode, press "ctrl+alt+f2" and log in from there
[12:09] <B-Minus> how is the apple-like taskbar called ? can i install it ?
[12:10] <B-Minus> apple-panel
[12:10] <ubuntu> I will have to restart now as I am on live cd, see you back all
[12:10] <nosrednaekim> B-Minus: kooldock?
[12:10] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: ah... don't forget to run that program with sudo
[12:11] <B-Minus> hmmz
[12:11] <B-Minus> maybe
[12:11] <B-Minus> i thought compiz was already default installed with kubuntu 7.10 ?
[12:11] <B-Minus> but i dont see it at the install
[12:11] <posingaspopular> nope
[12:11] <TimS> B-Minus: Its not the full Compiz
[12:11] <posingaspopular> !compiz | B-Minus
[12:11] <ubotu> B-Minus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> B-Minus: nope, you have to manually install it (but its not hard)
[12:12] <B-Minus> tnx
[12:12] <TimS> Ubuntu comes with a stripped down desktop effects but Kubuntu doesnt
[12:12] <B-Minus> you are all veryu helpfull
[12:12] <E_mE> can you have a KDE 4 and KDE 3.5 instance installed in kubuntu and then use KDE 4 when you want but always default to KDE 3.5?
[12:13] <dystopianray> E_mE: yes, the same way you can have kde and gnome
[12:13] <E_mE> thank you
[12:13] <Hamra> i was trying to see samba shares, when it said "The process for the smb protocol died unexpectedly.", any ideas?
[12:13] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: K, I'm deleting files now, where do I shrink /home?
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> E_mE: certainly
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: qtparted
[12:14] <RytmenPinnen> should I wait for all files to be deleted before running that?
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: yeah :)
[12:14] <RytmenPinnen> :)
[12:14] <contrast83> has anyone here been able to run KDE 4 Beta 3 as a full session? Mine crashes back to KDM about half way through the splash screen
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: yes,
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: you need "kde4case-dev"
[12:15] <voicu> how can i find out if the X server has randr enabled? i can't find anything in the man pages
[12:16] <TimS> Have they made the Kde$ origional artwork yet?
[12:16] <TimS> 4*
[12:16] <contrast83> nosrednaekim: oh ok. i was going strictly by what it said on kubuntu.org. i'll try installing that, thanks.
[12:16] <dystopianray> voicu: what driver are you using?
[12:16] <voicu> mga
[12:16] <dystopianray> voicu: and what version of randr are you takling about?
[12:16] <dystopianray> voicu: just type 'xrandr' on the terminal
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: whoops "kde4base-dev"
[12:17] <contrast83> nosrednaekim: so since i don't have that installed (just kde-workspace), it's normal that i can run kde4 stuff over my kde 3 session, but not kde 4 as a full session?
[12:17] <contrast83> nosrednaekim: i figured :-)
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: and that is on kubuntu.org;)
[12:17] <voicu> dystopianray: i need randr for rotating the screen
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: yeah
[12:17] <dystopianray> voicu: run xrandr and it will tell you if it can rotate
[12:17] <voicu> i typed xrandr, a bunch of resolutions appeared
[12:17] <voicu> nope, i don't think so
[12:17] <contrast83> ohh. wow. how'd i miss that.
[12:17] <dystopianray> voicu: does it have a 'rotations possible' line?
[12:18] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: i quit
[12:18] <MaDiNfO_> :1
[12:18] <MaDiNfO_> :\
[12:18] <voicu> no
[12:18] <stdin> contrast83: the instructions were updated to say "Install kdebase-workspace and kde4base-dev."
[12:18] <dystopianray> voicu: pastebin the output
[12:18] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: try asking for help in #ubuntu
[12:18] <contrast83> stdin: oh ok. i don't feel so dumb now. thanks
[12:19] <voicu> dystopianray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41322/
[12:20] <dystopianray> voicu: it looks like you do not have rotation support
[12:20] <voicu> yeah...
[12:20] <voicu> can i enable it?
[12:20] <dystopianray> voicu: probably not unless you write a patch against the video driver
[12:21] <voicu> hmm... nice
[12:21] <voicu> isn't there a software only solution?
[12:21] <dystopianray> no idea
[12:21] <voicu> well thanks anyway
[12:21] <voicu> ... back to square 1
[12:25] <feierfoox> hello
[12:25] <feierfoox> i have a question
[12:25] <voicu> dude, just ask
[12:25] <feierfoox> i have a SATA Drive with exisiting ext3 File System and files on it
[12:25] <voicu> ^^
[12:26] <feierfoox> on this drive, i want to make a new kubuntu-installation
[12:26] <feierfoox> can i do it without loosing some of the files?
[12:26] <bottiger> I just upgraded to gutsy on my desktop. But unlike my laptop it didn't install apparmor, stringi, etc. However the splash-screen and artwork is all gutys
[12:26] <voicu> feierfoox: do you have only one partition?
[12:26] <feierfoox> yes
[12:27] <voicu> feierfoox: i think you can install it without formatting but you should resize it and make a separate partition for the system
[12:27] <feierfoox> hmmm,the drive is totaly full
[12:27] <feierfoox> only some gigs left
[12:28] <feierfoox> :(
[12:28] <voicu> feierfoox: do you want to install linux again or something else?
[12:28] <feierfoox> somezthing else
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> feierfoox: delete some of those illegal movies then ;)
[12:28] <feierfoox> i have an old dapper-session on my old IDE drive
[12:28] <feierfoox> the sata drive is my second
[12:28] <feierfoox> :/
[12:29] <voicu> feierfoox: what os do you want to install? if it can work with ext3 you have no chance but to create another partition
[12:29] <voicu> *can't
[12:29] <feierfoox> ok
[12:29] <feierfoox> kubuntu of course
[12:29] <voicu> can't you install over the old ide drive?
[12:30] <feierfoox> there is my /home/
[12:30] <feierfoox> i don't want to make experiements
[12:30] <voicu> ah
[12:30] <voicu> dunno, put some of the stuff on dvds, make some space and create a new partition
[12:31] <voicu> then you won't have problems again if you want to reinstall
[12:31] <voicu> 5-10gb should be enough
[12:31] <feierfoox> hmmm
[12:31] <feierfoox> that idea sound good
[12:32] <feierfoox> which kde tool is recommented for creating partitions?
[12:32] <feierfoox> on gnome i used gPart
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> qtparted
[12:32] <feierfoox> qtparted? does the live CD contains it
[12:32] <voicu> yeah, that
[12:33] <voicu> yeah
[12:33] <voicu> (?)
[12:33] <feierfoox> because, my running system can't mount my target drive
[12:33] <feierfoox> ok
[12:33] <feierfoox> should 8 GB be enough?
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> should be
[12:34] <voicu> a fresh install is about 2-3gb
[12:34] <voicu> if you don't need many programs at once it's more than enough
[12:34] <soon> Im not familiar with instant messaging services AT ALL .... if I choose AIM e.g will I be able to send messages to MSN or Jabber users and vice versa?
[12:34] <dystopianray> soon: no
[12:35] <Yammeh> They're different protocols and servers, soon
[12:35] <soon> so I need to establish a whole range of accounts then ?
[12:35] <dystopianray> soon: that's like saying: if I speak german will I still be able to talk to the french?
[12:35] <dystopianray> soon: that's right
[12:35] <soon> okay - well, as I said - Ive never used any IM services b4
[12:35] <stdin> soon: kopete supports all those protocols (and more)
[12:35] <B-Minus> intel gfx are not supported by compiz ?
[12:35] <dystopianray> soon: jabber can simplify things through the use of transports
[12:36] <B-Minus> i remember a year ago i installed beryl and it worked
[12:36] <dystopianray> B-Minus: intel graphics have the best support for compiz
[12:36] <B-Minus> hm
[12:36] <soon> so jabber will 'convert' to other formats?
[12:36] <B-Minus> i only have a intel 915GM card
[12:36] <voicu> can qtparted resize partitions without destroing data?
[12:36] <stdin> soon: no, you use multiple accounts with kopete
[12:36] <dystopianray> B-Minus: I have a 915GM card, compiz works perfectly
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> voicu: sure
[12:37] <voicu> well the option is grayed out
[12:37] <soon> okay - multiple accounts it is then :-(
[12:37] <dystopianray> soon: jabber can be setup so that when you login to your jabber account it logs into msn, aim, yahoo etc and lets you talk to people on those networks
[12:37] <dystopianray> soon: but it still needs you to have an account on each network
[12:37] <B-Minus> dystopianray: strange i must be doing something wrong then
[12:37] <soon> okay - thanks
[12:37] <B-Minus> !comiz
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comiz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <B-Minus> !compiz
[12:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:37] <dystopianray> B-Minus: that is likely
[12:37] <guest22> where ispanish channel ?
[12:38] <stdin> !es
[12:38] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[12:38] <posingaspopular> bed
[12:38] <guest22> thanks you, gracias
[12:44] <haffi> Hi, I was checking if nvidia-glx-new would work better than nvidia-glx for my card, but I found out that it wouldn't work, so I installed nvidia-glx again. Now I get a API mismatch between the kernel and the driver
[12:45] <DaNi`M1> hello
[12:45] <DaNi`M1> official repositories are down?
[12:45] <baudthief> I need to install XP (for gaming) on a seperate physical drive, how do I go about setting up a multiboot system with Kubuntu as my primary OS?
[12:46] <dystopianray> anyone else notice that gutsy fonts are blurrier?
[12:46] <baudthief> actually... I forgot my bios allows you to select a physical boot HDD after POST, disregard my question
[12:46] <DaNi`M1> baudthief: with grub
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> haffi: did you try restarting?
[12:47] <DaNi`M1> kubuntu install grub, you can install before startup-manager and config grub
[12:47] <DaNi`M1> is easy
[12:47] <haffi> nosrednaekim: Yes, I did that
[12:48] <haffi> nosrednaekim: startx gives me the API mismatch error
[12:48] <alain_> allo
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> haffi: remove all of the nvidia driver stuff with synaptic and then try reinstalling the nvidia-glx
[12:48] <alain_> qui peut medai
[12:49] <alain_> personne
[12:50] <stdin> !fr
[12:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:50] <alain_> c pour amsn
[12:50] <alain_> je voix pas la taille de police
[12:50] <haffi> nosrednaekim: Will do
[12:51] <stdin> alain_: /join #kubuntu-fr
[12:51] <alain_> oui mais j'ai pas trouvé
[12:53] <kowesix> how can i mount mds files? Oo
[12:53] <stdin> kowesix: you have to convert to ISO
[12:53] <stdin> !iso
[12:53] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:54] <kowesix> does the mini-/maxi-mds image still work when i converted it to iso? :]
[12:54] <darkox> hi
[12:55] <Rise_Against> i got a problem with the upgrade to gutsy :( there are always errors :[
[12:55] <stdin> kowesix: afaik, mds is just a compressed ISO omage
[12:55] <stdin> image
[12:55] <Rise_Against> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41326/
[12:55] <darkox> mhm... maybe anyone can tell me how to install kavascript to kubuntu?
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> stdin: c ya! i'm goint o try to get some python work going..
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> have fun.
[12:56] <stdin> nosrednaekim: heh, have fun ;)
[12:56] <haffi> nosrednaekim: Just FIY, the problem is now fixed, I deletted all nvidia_new files fomr /lib/linux-restricted-modules/*kernel-number* directory
[12:56] <stdin> Rise_Against: try "sudo apt-get update" (and post the output to pastebin)
[12:57] <haffi> nosrednaekim: Maybe aptitude remove nvidia-glx-new --purge would have worked also
[12:57] <stdin> darkox: if it's not in the repositories you have to manually install it, using instructions from where you got it from
[12:58] <kraut> moin
[12:58] <baudthief> is there a way to convert a vmware installation to a "normal" installation?
[12:58] <Rise_Against> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41327/
[12:59] <Rise_Against> duplicate sources o_O
[12:59] <stdin> Rise_Against: yep, post your /etc/apt/sources.list and we'll sort them out
[13:00] <Rise_Against> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41328/
[13:00] <Carnage\> Rise_Against: Just look at the bottom...
[13:01] <Carnage\> Remove the last three lines
[13:01] <Rise_Against> yep
[13:01] <stdin> remove those lines and it should be ok
[13:01] <Minnozz> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, and my wireless network randomly drops. KNetworkManager is not responding to anything, it freezes in the state just before the drop (the info)
[13:01] <Minnozz> anybody knows why and how to fix it?
[13:02] <Rise_Against> thanks :) upgrading now..
[13:04] <baudthief> is gutsy vastly improved (stability etc) compared to feisty?
[13:04] <Rise_Against> and.. if anyone got time.. how can i change the size of my ext3 partition ? i tried it with qtparted on a live cd but it didnt work :(
[13:04] <ubuntu__> K I\ve deleted all files now
[13:04] <RytmenPinnen> except 2 files that wont go away
[13:04] <RurouniJones> Anyone got recommendations for a Laptop that behaves nicely with Kubuntu and has a decent GFX card for gaming?
[13:04] <RytmenPinnen> not sure if they even excist
[13:04] <RurouniJones> Also, gobs of RAM and a nice CPU
[13:05] <RytmenPinnen> posingaspopular: it was qtparted right_
[13:05] <stdin> RurouniJones: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:07] <Rise_Against> bye :)
[13:07] <RurouniJones> Ta stdin
[13:08] <SMP_ca> @
[13:10] <darkox> och god... I felt like totally newbe.... Today is my first day in kubuntu after ~7years windows :)
[13:10] <RytmenPinnen> posingaspopular: you still here? or anyone else that can help me with partitioning from a live session
[13:10] <massi__> i think no
[13:11] <queequeg> es.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down!
[13:12] <Minnozz> I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, and my wireless network randomly drops. KNetworkManager is not responding to anything, it freezes in the state just before the drop (the info). Anybody knows why & how to fix it?
[13:12] <massi__> why?
[13:12] <stdin> queequeg: switch to another one then
[13:12] <queequeg> which one, please?
[13:12] <stdin> queequeg: try the main one
[13:13] <massi__> are you sure?
[13:13] <queequeg> but then I'll lose the language translations (into spanish) right?
[13:13] <stdin> massi__: ?
[13:13] <darkox> is in kubuntu something like my computer? :) i'm totally green here :D
[13:13] <stdin> queequeg: no
[13:14] <stdin> darkox: try system:/ in konqueror
[13:14] <massi__> where are you from?
[13:14] <queequeg> hmm, thanks, switching
[13:14] <ubuntu> Hello together, i have a problem installing kubuntu. i started from cd and if i try to install it by pressing the install button on the desktop, nothing happens
[13:14] <RytmenPinnen> Could someone help me with partitioning with qtparted from a live session
[13:14] <ubuntu> what could that be?
[13:15] <darkox> how to see how many free space is in my hard drive?
[13:15] <massi__> anyone speak spanish?
[13:15] <RytmenPinnen> there\s a spanish kubuntuchannel i think
[13:15] <queequeg> Yo hablo español
[13:15] <Azzco> I've been able to boot from liveCDs before but now I only get "ISOLINUX 3.36 Debian-2007-08-30" before I can selext anything
[13:15] <stdin> darkox: from media:/ right click on the partition, or in konsole "df -h"
[13:16] <stdin> !es
[13:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[13:16] <Azzco> select*
[13:16] <lgcovizzi> alguém aqui fala português?
[13:16] <stdin> !pt
[13:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:16] <ONeill|chill> the install application loads about 10 seconds and the closes himself
[13:16] <queequeg> alright, thanks
[13:17] <massi__> mmh
[13:17] <massi__> i speak italian
[13:17] <ONeill|chill> can someone help me?
[13:18] <RytmenPinnen> ONeill|chill:  I\m far from an expert but you could try to reboot and try again maby
[13:19] <ONeill|chill> hm, ok, i will try that
[13:19] <BrightEyes`> ive just setup my webcam and see it working in kopete.when i login to my account it crashes.any other goods programs.i cant configure my webcam in amsn
[13:19] <RytmenPinnen> you logging on to msn?
[13:19] <BrightEyes`> RytmenPinnen: yes
[13:20] <RytmenPinnen> cause theres a bug causing kopete to crash when logging on to msn, dunno when a fix is here, probably soon
[13:20] <ksivaji> openchrome (xserver-xorg-video-openchrome ) is available for gutsy or not
[13:20] <rand_acs> there is a fix
[13:20] <RytmenPinnen> does pidgin support webcams?
[13:20] <rand_acs> people where talking about it yesterday
[13:20] <RytmenPinnen> aha, interesting,......... and im still trying to update
[13:21] <BrightEyes`> rand_acs: fix for what? kopete?
[13:21] <rand_acs> yes
[13:21] <BrightEyes`> please let me know
[13:21] <stdin> BrightEyes`: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[13:21] <rand_acs> I don't use it myself, so I can't help there
[13:23] <BrightEyes`> rand_acs: my web cam isnt showing the picture very good.ive seen a similar webcam working on windoze xp and it was fine.what can i do for that?
[13:24] <rand_acs> BrightEyes`: no idea, I've never owned one, crap broadband here in .za :(
[13:24] <BrightEyes`> my web cam isnt showing the picture very good.ive seen a similar webcam working on windoze xp and it was fine.what can i do for that?
[13:24] <BrightEyes`> rand_acs: thank you
[13:24] <seriekrock> hey
[13:24] <darkox> i downloaded one file into desktop but I can't find it? whats wrong?
[13:25] <ksivaji> stdin do you remember that you create prozill.deb for me
[13:25] <rand_acs> BrightEyes`: I would just have a look around online, maybe search for your model + linux info
[13:25] <stdin> ksivaji: yeah
[13:25] <BrightEyes`> rand_acs: aham
[13:25] <rand_acs> BrightEyes`: btw, that link stdin put down there fixes the Kopete bug
[13:26] <ksivaji> stdin how to do that because i need .deb package for openchrome for guitsy
[13:27] <stdin> !packaging | ksivaji
[13:27] <ubotu> ksivaji: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[13:27] <ksivaji> stdin thanks
[13:27] <seriekrock> !codecs
[13:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:27] <stdin> ksivaji: depending on the project your making, it can be quite straight forward or a bit complicated. the guys in #ubuntu-motu are great to ask for help
[13:28] <rand_acs> what do you guys think of the new Dolphin btw?
[13:28] <seriekrock> its nice
[13:29] <ksivaji> stdin i cant untar openchrome source available  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome here
[13:30] <stdin> ksivaji: why? what happens?
[13:30] <darkox> how to create new user?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[13:30] <ksivaji> stdin ark return some error
[13:31] <ksivaji> darkox system setting->user management
[13:32] <filosofico> hello: I have a problem, could someone help me?
[13:32] <stdin> ksivaji: packaging is really a command line thing, download the 3 file (.orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz and .dsc) then do "dpkg-source -x xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.dsc" to extract it
[13:32] <rand_acs> stdin: how do you get the x86_64 fix for that bug?
[13:32] <ksivaji> stdin ok
[13:33] <stdin> rand_acs: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[13:33] <stdin> rand_acs: opps, http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[13:34] <rand_acs> stdin: thanks mate
[13:36] <Thonolan> i want to upgrade my system from feisty to gutsy and use this link http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade  but it still doesnt work and show me an upgrade option
[13:37] <stdin> did you enable "Pre release updates" ?
[13:37] <Thonolan> stdin: i have to translate it to german  i think so
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !ask | filosofico
[13:38] <ubotu> filosofico: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:38] <stdin> Thonolan: after you enable that repository, you have to click Fetch Updates then Full Upgrade to install the newer version of adept
[13:38] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/m24a11a32 signature error
[13:39] <filosofico> just a moment, thanks
[13:39] <stdin> Thonolan: the alternative is to press Alt-F2 and put in: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"       (quotes matter)
[13:40] <Thonolan> stdin thanks a lot
[13:40] <rand_acs> I must say GDebi seems really cool so far
[13:40] <rand_acs> Thonolan: just note that didn't work for me
[13:41] <ksivaji> stdin what to do now ?
[13:41] <rand_acs> running the script manually I saw quite a few errors, modules that was missing
[13:41] <seriekrock> !compiz
[13:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[13:41] <stdin> ksivaji: the "xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz" seems wrong, it's the wrong size
[13:42] <stdin> ksivaji: try re-downloading it from "http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151559/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357.orig.tar.gz"
[13:42] <filosofico> I have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart. Which is the problem?
[13:43] <ksivaji> stdin same error
[13:44] <kowesix> stdin: i installed mds2iso, but i have rly no clue how to use it -.-
[13:44] <flak1> wow,  running this from the livecd,   talking vid pidgeon
[13:44] <stdin> ksivaji: does ls -l still show the size as "1433600" ?
[13:45] <flak1> flak1 = flake :)
[13:45] <ksivaji> -rw-r--r-- 1 sivaji sivaji 1433600 2007-10-20 18:12 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz
[13:45] <stdin> kowesix: open konqueror and put in  man:/mds2iso   for usage instructions
[13:46] <Thonolan> stdin thanks your hint was succesfully now upgrade start
[13:46] <stdin> ksivaji: that's not what I get, remove it then use wget to download it "rm xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz  ; wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151559/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357.orig.tar.gz"
[13:46] <stdin> Thonolan: great :)
[13:47] <Thonolan> stdin: wish me luck :)
[13:47] <stdin> good luck ;)
[13:47] <kowesix> irc://irc.freenode.net/ignus
[13:47] <kowesix> argh
[13:47] <kowesix> s
[13:47] <Thonolan> i got an msg that canocial stop supprot a few things
[13:47] <Thonolan> stdin: is that ok ?
[13:47] <stdin> those packages are in universe now
[13:47] <Thonolan> ah ok
[13:47] <Thonolan> wow great support here
[13:48] <origaman> Hi all, using fiest, sending files from my mobile to my laptop via bluetooth worked flawlessly. Now I've upgraded to gutsy and all I get is "Error" on my mobile (PDA phone running Windows Mobile 2003). Any ideas? Is this a known problem?
[13:49] <B-Minus> hmm
[13:49] <B-Minus> there seem to be a lot of bugs in compiz
[13:50] <B-Minus> i dont see the top bar at any window .. so i cant minimize etc ...
[13:50] <B-Minus> also, sometimes i dont seem to have focus on a window
[13:50] <stdin> did you install "compiz-kde" ?
[13:50] <B-Minus> so i cant type
[13:50] <B-Minus> ye
[13:51] <B-Minus> how do i start it then
[13:51] <stdin> hmm, try asking in #compiz-fusion
[13:51] <B-Minus> just compiz --replace ?
[13:51]  * stdin doesn't use compiz
[13:51] <ksivaji> stdin dpkg-source: error: file xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz has size 9948 instead of expected 3370
[13:51] <B-Minus> what do you mean
[13:51] <Saied> origaman: what is the error?
[13:52] <stdin> B-Minus: ask in the compiz channel #compiz-fusion
[13:52] <B-Minus> tnx
[13:52] <filosofico> Hello to all. I have a big problem. I have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but turn OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart. Which is the problem?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> where's the line in about:config on FF to enable it to open from links in Thunderbird ?
[13:52] <stdin> ksivaji: that's very odd, when I download it (from the same link), the size is 249450
[13:53] <origaman> My PDA shows only "Fehler" (i.e. "Error"). Typical Microsoft informative error message...
[13:53] <ksivaji> stdin one second ya that one is correct other file return error
[13:53] <ksivaji> s*
[13:53] <queequeg> if my sources.list does not contain any reference to es.archive.ubuntu.com which is down, how come adept-manager keeps trying to connect (and getting stuck)???
[13:53] <rand_acs> doesn't anyone else have this system tray bug when running compiz?
[13:53] <combo> have u ever had a problem with 'ldconfig deferred processing now taking place' during installation of some DEB packages ?
[13:54] <rand_acs> where the icon get's displayed in it's own window?
[13:54] <stdin> combo: that's not a problem, that's by design
[13:54] <origaman> ... and kubuntu doesn't show anything (there is the bluetooth icon in the system tray, but greyed out)
[13:55] <stdin> ksivaji: ahh, yeah. I think the downloads are wrong somehow, try "rm xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.dsc" then "wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151560/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151561/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357-0ubuntu3.dsc"
[13:55] <combo> stdin: so IF this is NOT an error why can't install DEB packages ? :] any ideas ?
[13:55] <stdin> combo: do you get an error?
[13:55] <origaman> Sending files TO my mobile is working, though.
[13:56] <combo> stdin: nope... there's nothing i get... just 'Processing triggers for libc6 ...' and also this with ldconfig deferred... and nothing happened :/ (kub-7.10)
[13:56] <combo> stdin: before (on feisty) it worked fine
[13:56] <ksivaji> dpkg-source: error: file xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz has size 9948 instead of expected 249450
[13:56] <stdin> combo: what package? and how do you know it's not installing?
[13:57] <BrightEyes`> in kopete my webcam doesnt !!! it recognises it but when i send to someone else my webcam he doesnt take anything.what can i do for that?
[13:57] <combo> stdin: nerolinux 3.0.1.3. x86 [.deb] and it is probably not installing cuz there is NO nero :)
[13:57] <stdin> ksivaji: strange
[13:58] <combo> stdin: same version of nerolinux i've been installing many times on FEISTY
[13:58] <patrizio> hello
[13:58] <queequeg> is there a way to avoid es.archive.ubuntu.com server while upgrading?
[13:58] <patrizio>  could someone help me?
[13:58] <origaman> Saied: Did you get my answers? I'm new to IRC and didn't include your nickname...
[13:58] <stdin> combo: why are you installing nero, it's horrible
[13:58] <combo> stdin: and what else can i use as well ? :)
[13:58] <stdin> combo: k3d
[13:58] <combo> stdin: if u gimme any ideas, i change my mind :D
[13:59] <combo> stdin: u mean k3B ?
[13:59] <stdin> combo: k3b < not k3d
[13:59] <combo> stdin: right
[13:59] <Saied> origaman: im searching to find it
[13:59] <origaman> Saied: sorry...
[13:59] <stdin> ksivaji: it works here when I wget the files...
[13:59] <combo> stdin: this is installed by default... will try that... thanks for solution ;)
[14:00] <filosofico> does nobody know how to help me?
[14:00] <Hamra> hi, im installing feisty on a computer, and doing manual partitioning, how can i tell the program, that when i decrease the size of my windows partition, i want the free space to be put before the partition, not after it?
[14:01] <stdin> ksivaji: try this http://stdin.pastebin.us/40525
[14:01] <patrizio> there is an italian helper here?
[14:01] <edouard> co to jest?
[14:01] <stdin> !it
[14:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:02] <ksivaji> stdin sorry for delay
[14:03] <Saied> origaman: sending from Linux to mobile is ok and reverse has problem means its the windoze job! :D any log? any message?
[14:03] <Azzco> My boot takes forever it says something about no resume image... Anyone else have this problem?
[14:03] <DexterF> !evms
[14:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:03] <seriekrock> is firestarer still the best gui for firewall, and clamav for antivirus?
[14:03] <ksivaji> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[14:04] <DexterF> ok, who else has the "evms hogs disks on gutsy upgrade" issue and what can I do to prevent it in the first place?
[14:04] <Carnage\> ksivaji: Download the respective key from a key server first...
[14:04] <stdin> ksivaji: that's ok, as long as there's no other error
[14:05] <ksivaji> Carnage/ stdin how to get the key
[14:05] <kowesix> when i want to mount a selfcreated iso, there's an error called: mount: not a directory -.-
[14:06] <Saied> kowesix: for mounting iso use -o loop
[14:06] <origaman> Saied: Well, since I changed my Linux and didn't touch my Windows Mobile, I strongly believe it's a Linux problem... Something with obex server and kbluetooth, but I don't know where to look for messages (/var/log/messages doesn't contain anything other than hal_device_added() entries for my USB bluetooth dongle)
[14:06] <kowesix> Saied: error comes when i use 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /media/iso/'
[14:06] <stdin> ksivaji: see the line above it, with "KEY ID 80DF6D58". you use that with "gpg --recv-keys 80DF6D58" then "gpg --export -a 80DF6D58 | sudo apt-key add - " but you don't have to do that if you don't want
[14:07] <kristjan_> kubuntuforums.net is down?
[14:07] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?
[14:09] <Saied> kowesix: dont use -t iso9660. if the result is the same iso maybe corrupted
[14:10] <kowesix> kay, same result.. iso corrupted :p
[14:10] <BluesKaj> what happened to kmail ... that silly kontact proggy is a PITA
[14:10] <Saied> origaman: maybe it is a bug! send it too kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
[14:11] <ksivaji> stdin ya ok i got new folder with some file
[14:11] <stdin> !bug | bugs should be reported to launchpad
[14:11] <ubotu> bugs should be reported to launchpad: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:11] <Saied> kowesix: md5sum it and compare it with that one on the site
[14:11] <Hamra> how can i get "parted" to resize ntfs partitions?
[14:11] <stdin> ksivaji: that's the package, now you need to create the deb from it
[14:12] <vlt> BluesKaj: KMail is one element of kontact you can run standalone,too.
[14:12] <Saied> Hamra: install ntfsprogs package! it is not safe for ntfs yet
[14:12] <Hamra> i'll try my luck, thnx
[14:13] <kaminix> Anyone here know how to fix SCIM/SKIM related problems?
[14:15] <origaman> Saied: Well, it seems to be... I just found this: http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=31754 Kubuntu uses the 1.0 beta8, too. Why the * are they using so much beta software (the bluetooth problem isn't the only one I have with gutsy. Fiesty was working so much better, so I begin thinking about a complete downgrade. Never change a running system...)
[14:15] <hyphenex> I'm having problems with Kubuntu.  I've installed it in a virtual machine, then when it boots, I get a spinny thing, then X crashes.  running startx from a terminal gives me "AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable"
[14:15] <seriekrock> if i have static ip, i shouldnt mark dhcp in firestarer, right?
[14:16] <Saied> origaman: you can get source of feisty packages and rebuild and repackage them, dont downgrade
[14:16] <kblin> hi folks
[14:16] <Angelus> where can i get KDE headers from?
[14:16] <seriekrock> yo
[14:16] <origaman> Saied: Are there any instructions how to do that (e.g. in the wiki)?
[14:17] <stdin> Angelus: install "kde-devel"
[14:17] <Saied> hyphenex: use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set driver to that is suitable for you
[14:17] <Angelus> OK stdin :p i new it
[14:17] <hyphenex> Saied: hmm.  Maybe there is another parallels configuration I can try before I have to start getting technical if it's a drivers issue
[14:19] <bignall> Hi.  I'm trying to update from Feisty to Gutsy, but the updater keeps showing the following messages:
[14:19] <bignall> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found
[14:19] <bignall> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found
[14:19] <bignall> What can I do to fix the problem?
[14:19] <Saied> Angelus: use packages with -dev extensions
[14:21] <kblin> so, what's going to bow up in my face if I upgrade to gutsy? :)
[14:22] <Saied> origaman: instructions to what?
[14:22] <Saied> hyphenex: i dont think, reconfigure it and rerun gdm using /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:24] <origaman> Saied: instructions to getting, rebuilding and repackaging source packages from fiesty for gutsy.
[14:24] <hyphenex> Saied: reconfigure it with what exactly?
[14:25] <Saied> origaman: download source packages with apt-get source -t feisty <packagename>
[14:26] <Saied> origaman: go to its direcotry and change dependencies in debian/control file and repackage it with fakeroot debian/rules binary , package will be created in ..
[14:27] <buz> !d3lphin
[14:27] <ubotu> dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[14:28] <BrightEyes`> i cant configure my web cam using the new amsn.i get into Account>Preferences>Others>Audio & Video Settings and in the drop down list i can see my webcam but it cant be selected.what can i do?
[14:30] <hyphenex> Garrrgh, I've given up
[14:31] <NLguyNL> hello?
[14:32] <NLguyNL> who speak english?
[14:32] <slaider> hola
[14:32] <NLguyNL> hi
[14:33] <hyphenex> Does anybody have Kubuntu running under Parallels
[14:34] <origaman> Saied: ... yes?
[14:34] <h3sp4wn> !tell hyphenex about anyone
[14:35] <ubuntu_> ohana!
[14:36] <jonasb> hi all, i just upgraded to gutsy, and since kopete crashes with msn i tried pidgin out.  but the sound isn't working in pidgin.  any hints?
[14:37] <bignall> Can anyone help me.  What do I do about these errors when upgrading to gutsy:
[14:37] <bignall> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found
[14:37] <bignall> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found
[14:37] <stdin> remove the unofficial repos for now
[14:37] <ubuntu_> anyone else have promise "fasttrack" raid
[14:38] <darkox> i have installed firefox (terminam). how I can launch it? there it usually istall?
[14:38] <bignall> Ahh... okay, I'll try that.  thanks.
[14:39] <filosofico> Hello to all. I have a big problem. I have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but turn OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart.
[14:39] <filosofico> UPDATE: The system communicates that the screen is still still closed when instead it has been open. Is it a bug? Is it possible to understand with which system manage the closing of the screen? Is it possible to resolve to hand the problem?
[14:43] <hyphenex> I can't get kubuntu to boot in Parallels desktop.  I just get a blank boot screen looking thing (with the loaded on the right hand side)
[14:45] <sam1337> When I try to rename my volume group with "sudo vgrename Debian vg0" I get the message " Volume group "Debian" still has active LVs" how do I get around this?
[14:45] <code_man65> Hey, anyone in here good with Cedega problems?
[14:45] <sam1337> code_man65 what's the problem?
[14:45] <code_man65> Cannot install fonts on Kubuntu 7.10 x86_64
[14:46] <code_man65> Give me a moment and I'll paste the error from the log file
[14:46] <Daisuke_Ido> that's something you should contact cedega about
[14:47] <sam1337> Dosen't cedega offer technical support?
[14:47] <Daisuke_Ido> although their fork of wine is woefully behind the mainline version now
[14:47] <code_man65> I'm in their channel, no one appears to be awake
[14:48] <tekteen> anyone know where the install program is on the live cd?
[14:48] <sam1337> lol
[14:48] <Kanuha> need help setting up wireless. already enabled restricted drivers and firmware, and installed ndiswrapper with inf files, but I cannot see my network
[14:48] <tekteen> what comes up
[14:48] <sam1337> tekteen is there not an install icon as a desktop icon?
[14:49] <tekteen> no
[14:49] <tekteen> that is created during boot
[14:49] <tekteen> sam1337: The user and desktop is created during boot
[14:50] <sam1337> reboot the live cd then?
[14:50] <tekteen> ???
[14:50] <tekteen> I am not brite
[14:50] <tekteen> lol
[14:50] <tekteen> ty
[14:51] <sam1337> When I try to rename my volume group with "sudo vgrename Debian vg0" I get the message " Volume group "Debian" still has active LVs" how do I get around this?
[14:51] <pablo-viva> Hi all
[14:51] <sam1337> Heya!
[14:51] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: Is / on the lvm ?
[14:52] <Lido> who is doing scouting?
[14:52] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: yes
[14:52] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: use something like grml to rename it then
[14:52] <pablo-viva> I have an issue with Kopete on Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon and I wanted to check if it was only me or it was a bug on Kubuntu or Kopete 3.5.8
[14:52] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: grml?
[14:53] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: Is it easy to use?
[14:53] <h3sp4wn> !grml
[14:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:53] <nicolai_> !ask | pablo-viva
[14:53] <ubotu> pablo-viva: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:54] <stdin> pablo-viva: using MSN ?
[14:54] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: well you boot it and then do /etc/init.d/lvm2 start
[14:54] <pablo-viva> yeah using MSN stdin
[14:54] <hyphenex> I can't get my Kubuntu live CD to start.  X fails to start (I'm running through a VM)
[14:54] <stdin> pablo-viva: see http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[14:54] <pablo-viva> I tried with Yahoo Messenger and it works
[14:54] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: then you can rename it - http://www.grml.org
[14:54] <pablo-viva> thanks I will look at that
[14:54] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: then a simple "vgrename Debian vg0" would do the trick?
[14:55] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: Yes
[14:55] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: ok thanks for your help.
[14:55] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: With the root being on it there is no other way I can think of (usually you could drop to single user mode and do it)
[14:56] <pablo-viva> stdin thanks, do you happen to know if this is a patch i must install on top of kopete or should I remove my actual kopete and install this .deb instaead
[14:56] <stdin> pablo-viva: just install the package, you don't have to remove anything
[14:56] <pablo-viva> ok thanks stdin
[14:57] <ashfaq> Installed Kubuntu gutsy as dual boot, can't find my ntfs drives, how do I access and make them read/write
[14:58] <stdin> !ntfs
[14:58] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[14:58] <hyphenex> I can't get my Kubuntu live CD to start.  X fails to start (I'm running through a VM)
[15:00] <h3sp4wn> hyphenex: Use the alternative and do a server install
[15:00] <h3sp4wn> hyphenex: Install X latert
[15:01] <stdin> the alternate cd installs a desktop system, no need to install X after
[15:01] <lido01> heey
[15:01] <h3sp4wn> stdin: But comes polutted with tons of garbage
[15:02] <h3sp4wn> polluted*
[15:02] <stdin> h3sp4wn: the alternate cd installs exactly the same system as the desktop cd
[15:02] <poison--> mornin guys
[15:02] <h3sp4wn> stdin: but you can select a cli install from the menu
[15:02] <code_man65> Thanks for the ia32 thing
[15:02] <code_man65> They weren't installed by default
[15:02] <h3sp4wn> stdin: which is what I am suggesting
[15:02] <hyphenex> ahh, I should have just downloaded that one then!
[15:03] <Rosanne> heeyz
[15:06] <QwertyM> what's the repository am supposed to add for the Opera browser?
[15:09] <kaminix> What should I start a script with in order to make sure the user has root priviligies?
[15:09] <feierfox> hello
[15:09] <srcnix> Hi all
[15:09] <feierfox> need a check-sum of kubuntu 7.10 desktop i386
[15:09] <feierfox> md5
[15:09] <stdin> !md5sum
[15:09] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[15:10] <srcnix> I was wondering if someone can help me. I am using Kubuntu 7.10 and trying to access my removable storage. When I access it, it shows no files. On my Windows box it does. Any thoughts?
[15:10] <srcnix> The error I get is: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options
[15:10] <feierfox> thanks! d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c
[15:11] <stdin> QwertyM: "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner"
[15:11] <QwertyM> stdin: thank you, found it in the default sources.list and uncommented it :)
[15:11] <feierfox> ah!
[15:11] <feierfox> Kubuntu isnt listed there! :O
[15:11] <feierfox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:11] <feierfox> no kubuntu :(
[15:12] <nicolai_> feierfox: http://ls.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/MD5SUMS
[15:12] <stdin> feierfox: from where you got the ISO, look at the "MD5SUMS" file
[15:12] <feierfox> ah
[15:12] <feierfox> ok
[15:12] <flake> i have a ntfs drive with older copy of xp on it and a bunch of stuff I want to save, can i make it writeable and back stuff up to it from other harddrives
[15:12] <feierfox> i had it from torrent
[15:13] <stdin> kaminix: something like 'if [ "$(id -u)" -ne "0" ]; then echo "you aren't root"; fi'
[15:14] <feierfox> !dkgp
[15:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dkgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:14] <feierfox> !dkpg
[15:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:14] <feierfox> hmmm
[15:14] <kaminix> stdin: Will "sudo echo 'You are now root ;)'" work? :p
[15:14] <feierfox> how to "force" pakets to install?
[15:15] <stdin> kaminix: why would you need that? just run the script with sudo
[15:15] <kaminix> stdin: But I might forget to run it with sudo sometimes, and that's no good. :)
[15:16] <stdin> kaminix: then you make it say "run me with sudo"
[15:17] <kaminix> Hmm... good idea.
[15:20] <LiL-JoN> how come everytime i start up i have to reload my superkaramba themes?
[15:20] <Hamra> finally i got my hard disk partitioned the way i like it. i didnt like those ntfsresize commands or parted, partition magic from power quest is still my favorite application for the job, and the most trusted!
[15:20] <waylandbill__> !dpkg | feierfox
[15:20] <ubotu> feierfox: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[15:21] <waylandbill__> (that's what you meant to get from ubotu I'm sure)
[15:21] <Pupeno> How can I check if my mic is working?
[15:21] <LiL-JoN> waylandbill__: can you help me?
[15:21] <feierfox> with your voice, Pupeno
[15:22] <Pupeno> feierfox: he-he-he.
[15:22] <srcnix> Got it working ;)
[15:22] <srcnix> How does one play MP3's from Amarok thought ;)
[15:23] <Pupeno> !mp3 | srcnix
[15:23] <ubotu> srcnix: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:23] <Angelus> did someone fix the boot up splash bug yet ??
[15:23] <martoya> srcnix: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[15:23] <Pupeno> really, is there some vumeter to see if I'm getting any audio or not?
[15:23] <LiL-JoN> what was the bug Angelus
[15:24] <martoya> srcnix: but first you need activate the multiverse repo
[15:24] <srcnix> Thanks guys, will have a look at the link :)
[15:24] <Thonolan> rehi
[15:24] <n1lo> hi sirs
[15:24] <Angelus> LiL-JoN: the monitor turns off instead of bootup splash, on all resolutions (i tried about 5different settings)
[15:24] <kaminix> Will I see cool stuff when installing KDE 4 Beta 3 or will it still be all broken like Beta 2 was?
[15:24] <LiL-JoN> thats for like a laptop? Angelus
[15:24] <Thonolan> my update from 7.04 to 7.10 broke
[15:25] <Angelus> no its not a laptop LiL-JoN
[15:25] <Thonolan> now icant use adept
[15:25] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: oh
[15:25] <Thonolan> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/9681
[15:26] <sebastian^> hmmm strange Thonolan
[15:26] <Thonolan> if u use sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:26] <Thonolan> no hope to fix that ?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> anyone running the new ATI prprietary 8.41 driver on Gutsy 64bit ?
[15:27] <sebastian^> yes me BluesKaj
[15:27] <kapahtuh> hallao everybody,can anyone help me install games on kubuntu?
[15:28] <LiL-JoN> how come everytime i start up i have to reload my superkaramba themes?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> sebastian^, are you also running google earth  ?
[15:28] <sebastian^> Thonolan: there's always hope, but for the moment i don't know how to fix this :-/
[15:28] <sebastian^> no sorry BluesKaj, are there any problems with ge?
[15:28] <Artimus> Has anyone been able to fix the Gutsy KDM theme?  When I boot, first it draws the login box, then a second later, it draws the nice pretty "Kubuntu" borders around it.  I don't care for the user list at all, but if it has to be there, it could at least render properly.
[15:28] <Thonolan> sebastian^: ok
[15:29] <BluesKaj> sebastian^, well I'm running the default gutsy driver (8.37 I think) but GE doesn't launch altho fgl_glxgears , 3D and DRI are all ok
[15:30] <wpk> After upgrading do 7.10, brightness keys (fn-f7/f8) on my laptop (hp pavilion dv6150) stopped working. Brightness control through control panel works well tho
[15:30] <kapahtuh> how to upgrade to 7.10?
[15:30] <LiL-JoN> can somebody help me superkaramba? Everytime i start reboot i have to reload all of my superkaramba themes and that ticks me off cause i have alot of them.
[15:31] <sebastian^> kapahtuh: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[15:31] <LiL-JoN> kapahtuh: this isnt a search box
[15:31] <kapahtuh> danke schon )
[15:31] <sebastian^> hmm ok BluesKaj
[15:31] <sebastian^> kapahtuh: ;)
[15:32] <RytmenPinnen> are there any recommended unofficial repos with stuff like flash and stuff?
[15:32] <LiL-JoN> i think i'm going to reinstall 7.10 since i think i customized it a little to much
[15:33] <Angelus> what did you do to it LiL-JoN?
[15:34] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: i made it the way i liked it and now nothing really works right
[15:34] <naegling23> hey, im having an issue, I have the old version of adept (from edgy) and because of this, I cant upgrade to gutsy...how can I get the newer adept?
[15:34] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: my firefox crashes when i want to watch mpeg video
[15:34] <Hamra> i connect internet to this computer by LAN from a WinXP PC, and i enabled disconnecting by other computers, is there a way to disconnect from kubuntu?
[15:34] <Angelus> :O
[15:34] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: compiz doesn't work well its really choppy
[15:34] <Angelus> hmm
[15:35] <Angelus> compiz-fusion works fine here LiL-JoNl
[15:35] <Angelus> :p
[15:35] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: well it worked great in the begining
[15:35] <Angelus> and, have you tried to use konqueror to view those movies instead of firefox?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> naegling23, you can't upgrade from edgy to gutsy without breaking apps ...upgrade to feisty first then to gutsy
[15:35] <miir> luu
[15:35] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: yes but i dont like konqueror
[15:36]  * feierfox will leave now
[15:36] <feierfox> booting the 7.10 live-cd
[15:36] <miir> Goodluck
[15:36] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: i think reinstall is best
[15:36] <naegling23> buleskaj, i am running feisty though, for some reason adept-manager (version 2.1) looks the same as the one under edgy, and not the way its supposed to look under feisty
[15:37] <Azzco> naegling23: What do you mean by that?
[15:37] <kaminix> Why do I need kde4base-dev in order to run kde4 b3?
[15:37] <ImpaledOnRebar> how can I split tarball archives like rar?
[15:37] <miir> Am I the only one having problems with broadcom wireless adapter , USB-disk detection and kopete ?
[15:37] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: when im back do you want to help me get up and running with the stuff i should install
[15:37] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: it would be kool :]
[15:37] <naegling23> azzco, when I open manage repositories, I get the old way of handling them, and that means I cant check off the upgrade distro part
[15:38] <Azzco> naegling23: You might need to install software-properties-kde
[15:38] <dhq> does kbluetooth support handsfree
[15:39] <naegling23> azzco, thats it, thanks for the help
[15:39] <Azzco> NP naegling23: Someone helped me with that some days ago aswell ;)
[15:40] <naegling23> azzco, thats weird, i dont know how that got missed in the last upgrade, oh well
[15:40] <ONeill|chill> Hello, i've got a question. i hope someone can help me. i want to install ubuntu. currently i booted the live version and if i click on the install button on the desktop. the programm loads a few seconds and then quit. what could be wrong?
[15:41] <Angelus> the gutsy dvd image is finally out!
[15:41] <wpk> ONeill|chill: are you sure you have correct (as in correctly downloaded/not scratched) CD?
[15:41] <Angelus> im gonna download it!
[15:41] <ONeill|chill> yes
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> i got an error on syslog
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> Oct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231922] SQUASHFS error: zlib_inflate returned unexpected result 0xfffffffd, srclength 65536, avail_in 0, avail_out 0
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> Oct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231931] SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block 0x49a06
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> Oct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231941] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 1267ae86, size 6c8e
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> sorry for the 3 line paste
[15:42] <dhq> ONeill|chill, !pastebin
[15:42] <dhq> !pastebin ONeill|chill
[15:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin oneill - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:42] <dhq> !pastebin
[15:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> k
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> sorry, next time
[15:43] <Azzco> Could someone help me, My booting is extremly slow and complains about no resume image or something...
[15:43] <kaminix> Why is my computer using 495MB swap?
[15:44] <TimS> I cannot login to my samba share from another PC, it asks for a username and password but none of the accounts I have assinged to it work
[15:44] <Azzco> kaminix: What did you set it to? 512?
[15:44] <ONeill|chill> what could that be? maybe memory broken?
[15:44] <osh_> Hmm, my vmware-server stopped working after upgrade to gutsy. Probably kernel modules mismatch. Anyone got a solution?
[15:46] <kaminix> Azzco: No, I have 996MB swap. But having 485MB used is worrying.
[15:46] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> How do I register my nickname?
[15:46] <frank__> Can I get gutsy support here?
[15:46] <dhq> well anyone here who uses bluetooth
[15:47] <kaminix> Azzco: Also having 381MB RAM used is... well... not sure actually.
[15:47] <stdin> !register | AT0M1CB0MB3R
[15:47] <ubotu> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[15:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Thanks stdin!! :]
[15:49] <flats> Noob question, when I install a program via apt-get or synaptic where does the actual executable go?  For instance If I run kvirc2 it opens but if I want to make a shortcut, where would I find it?
[15:49] <osh_> Hmm, how do I install things that I probably have in my apt-cache?
[15:49] <waylandbill__> flats: /usr/bin
[15:49] <stdin> flats: most go in /usr/bin
[15:50] <flats> why thank you
[15:50] <Tatewaki> hmm
[15:51] <Tatewaki> it's true for apt-get but the bin can also be located other places
[15:51] <AT0M1CB0MB3R>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[15:51] <Tatewaki> like my crossoveroffice bin is in /opt/cxoffice/bin
[15:51] <stdin> AT0M1CB0MB3R: always use the server tab ;)
[15:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> stdin: lol sorry
[15:52] <waylandbill__> flats: you can use dpkg -c to view the contents of a package. Example is that dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/adept-manager_2.1.3ubuntu17_i386.deb  tells me that it has /usr/bin/adept-manager inside it.
[15:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> stdin: I didn't know i pressed space bar. :[
[15:52] <stdin> waylandbill__, flats: "dpkg -L Package" is easier
[15:52] <Tatewaki> AT0M1CB0MB3R, just be warrend i ahve done that trick with my password for my nickname hehe :)
[15:52] <stdin> AT0M1CB0MB3R: at least it wasn't your password
[15:53] <waylandbill__> Tatewaki: debian packages have to follow a certain standard and one is that executables belong in /usr/bin.
[15:53] <Tatewaki> waylandbill__, true, but cxoffice is not a package in the ubuntu reprosite
[15:54] <Tatewaki> it's however a deb package i used
[15:54] <stdin> he asked about apt-get/synaptic, so we gave the answer for that
[15:54] <Tatewaki> yeah i know i also said that :)
 it's true for apt-get
[15:55] <waylandbill__> Tatewaki: I could build a source package and put it anywhere with a configure switch, so technically they can be anywhere. I agree. I think the question was originally referring to official binary packages though.
[15:55] <dhq> which would be the best repos mirror where all updates are present
[15:55] <Tatewaki> true waylandbill__
[15:55] <flats> Wow I upgraded and everything actually works.....Someone pinch me...
[15:55] <stdin> dhq: the main one, but that can be slow sometimes (as all other mirrors sync from it)
[15:55]  * Tatewaki pinch flats 
[15:55] <flats> OUCH
[15:56] <flats> yep It's true
[15:56] <Tatewaki> hmm no fun then
[15:56] <dhq> stdin, well i deleted my repos searching for new ones could you link me
[15:56] <flats> OK neone familiar with the 915resolution program?
[15:56] <Tatewaki> i always get bored when my system works perfekt
[15:56] <flats> Thats actually how I feel right now
[15:57] <stdin> dhq: the main repo is http://archive.ubuntu.com
[15:57] <stdin> !source-o-matic
[15:57] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[15:57] <waylandbill> gives more time for actually using the system for something even more fun. :)
[15:57] <dhq> stdin, thanks
[15:57] <Kr4t05> Well...
[15:57] <Tatewaki> i just don't really know what that should be waylandbill :)
[15:57] <Kr4t05> The upgrade tool isn't working for me... :/
[15:57] <dhq> stdin, you use bluetooth
[15:58] <stdin> nope
[15:58] <Kr4t05> It gets to the point where it installs new packages and the it closes out.
[15:58] <Tatewaki> debugging and finding new ways of using the system is a lot of fun for me
[15:58] <Kr4t05> No errors or anything.
[15:58] <flats> I'm sitting here trying to figure out what I can do with the system.  Any good network troubleshooting tools?
[15:59] <Tatewaki> wireshark
[15:59] <flats> I have that
[15:59] <Tatewaki> play with hping3
[15:59] <flats> hey anyone running KDE 4.0?
[15:59] <flats> the beta
[15:59] <Tatewaki> nope not yet
[15:59] <flats> I can't get that to install
[15:59] <waylandbill> Tatewaki: maybe you need to learn system development then,
[15:59] <Tatewaki> i should try to play with that
[15:59] <kaminix> I'm installing the KDE 4 Beta atm. ^^ flats
[15:59] <stdin> flats: helps if you say why toy can't install it
[16:00] <bentob0x> anybody can tell me how to enable compiz on 7.10 please?
[16:00] <stdin> s/toy/you/
[16:00] <flats> I'm a linux noob.  I'm not up on compiling packages.
[16:00] <stdin> !compiz | bentob0x
[16:00] <ubotu> bentob0x: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:00] <Tatewaki> waylandbill, i play with some bash scripting right now so it's not that i can't do anything but play with my system, i just find it to be more funny
[16:00] <stdin> flats: there are packages, see the topic
[16:01] <Jucato> wb stdin! I missed you for about 24 hours :)
[16:01] <flats> wow thanks stdin
[16:01] <flats> on my way
[16:01] <stdin> Jucato: I had router problems, seems to have sorted itself tho :p
[16:01] <Jucato> good
[16:01] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy, using the instructions linked to from the topic, and the upgrade works fine up until the point when it tries to install the new packages. Then, it quits. No errors, or anything. Should I just go into Adept and upgrade that way?
[16:01] <Tatewaki> compiling your own packages is nice but it can be a hell keeping track of
[16:01] <Jucato> flats: I would really recommend that you don't play with the KDE 4 packages yet....
[16:02] <bentob0x> thx for the help stdin
[16:02] <Jucato> flats: unless you're really super curious and prepared not to be amazed
[16:02] <Jucato> (a.k.a. a wee bit disappointed)
[16:02] <kaminix> Could anyone help me with this Scim/Skim/Anthy problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3579679&postcount=22
[16:03] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: did you try amarok 2 yet ? (How stable is it)
[16:03] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: it's.. um.. usable, if you don't mind not seeing what you're playing :)
[16:03] <Jucato> I like the new look though.. it's unique, new, and refreshing... :)
[16:04] <Tatewaki> i have a hard time believing that they can make amarok anymore nice then its
[16:04] <Kr4t05> Well... Being ignored really does help me figure out my problem. :/
[16:04] <installationrl> !codecs
[16:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:04] <kaminix> !xim
[16:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <h3sp4wn> Tatewaki: Yeah but its alot easier to build kde4 on solaris than 3.5.8
[16:05] <installationrl> what problem Kr4t05?
[16:05] <Tatewaki> wired h3sp4wn
[16:05] <lexa> привет
[16:05] <Mr_Grieves> I'm trying to upgrade a feisty install to gutsy over ssh...is there a CLI way to do this?
[16:05] <Tatewaki> the normal way Mr_Grieves
[16:05] <lexa> у кого-нибудь возникает проблема с погасание экрана при загрузке 7,10
[16:05] <h3sp4wn> Mr_Grieves: use aptitude
[16:05] <Tatewaki> nothing is changed just because it's over ssh
[16:05] <QwertyM> !russian | lexa
[16:05] <ubotu> lexa: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[16:05] <installationrl> ps: use screen.
[16:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> lexa: Wow wrong channel buddy
[16:06] <Tatewaki> you just need to use the commandline
[16:06] <Kr4t05> installationrl: I'm trying to upgrade Feisty to Gutsy, and the upgrade tool seems to crash whenever it gets to the step where it installs the new packages.
[16:06] <kaminix> !skim
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <kaminix> !scim
[16:06] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[16:06] <osh_> What does a "c" mean when I do an "aptitude search foo"
[16:06] <kaminix> !xim
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <osh_> It shows as "c foo"
[16:06] <Mr_Grieves> Ok. I'll get to reading some man pages. Everything I've seen says to use Adept in the gui. Thanks :)
[16:06] <installationrl> Kr4t05: what's it output to console?
[16:06] <Jucato> osh_: it mean it has been uninstalled, but not purged (config files in /etc still remain)
[16:07] <Kr4t05> installationrl: I'm not sure how to run the upgrade tool via console
[16:07] <lovre> hi al
[16:07] <osh_> Jucato: Thanks. I did look in apt and aptitude man-files but didn't see anything about it there.
[16:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[16:07] <osh_> Jucato: Just to show that I'm not the lazy bastard I appear to be. ;-)
[16:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Kr4t05: sudo apt-get upgrade?
[16:07] <Kr4t05> installationrl: I can start up adept, but when I click "Version Upgrade" adept closes out and starts up the upgrader.
[16:08] <installationrl> Kr4t05: That's funny, I don't really know how people do it using a gooey. :)
[16:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: hey it's LiL-JoN.
[16:08] <Kr4t05> AT0M1CB0MB3R: I've been told that it's easy to break things with apt-get?
[16:08] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yo
[16:08] <Kr4t05> I used to upgrade with APT in previous releases, but I wanted to see how much better the GUI upgrade would go.
[16:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Kr4t05: not really never broke for me and you can always fix them
[16:08] <jesse__> hello; I just upgraded to gutsy and now my KDE windows are not repainting (and are thus unusable). anyone have debugging suggestions?
[16:09] <installationrl> well you need to be producing details of a problem before you know what's gone wrong :)
[16:09] <installationrl> but you knew that :D
[16:09]  * osh_ is a little annoyed that gutsy broke vmware. I need vmware for work on monday. :-/
[16:09] <mauri_> i'm not able to upgrading kubuntu to version 7.10
[16:09] <flats> Hmm I don't seem to have a kde4 directory under /usr/lib
[16:09] <osh_> It's my only windows. :-(
[16:09] <installationrl> feisty broke vmware too, tbf.
[16:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: can you help me? with everytime i start up with super karamba i have to reload all of my themes (and thats alot lol)
[16:09] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: not really an SK guy...
[16:09] <Kr4t05> osh_: You probably need to recompile your VMware drivers? That happens with any kernel upgrade.
[16:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: ok
[16:10] <h3sp4wn> osh_: which version of vmware ?
[16:10] <Kr4t05> s/drivers/modules
[16:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: should i just reinstall im on the live cd right now
[16:10] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: but you will most probably have to put a link to each SK theme in ~/.kde/Autostart
[16:10] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: um.. why reinstall? just for superkaramba?
[16:10] <installationrl> pfft, it's not as if they would build on feisty w/o intervention.
[16:10] <osh_> Kr4t05: Yeah. Except that I removed it to reinstall it (as per a suggestion on ubuntu-forums) and now I can't get it back. :-/
[16:10] <flats> how do I find a file?  I need to find startkde
[16:10] <osh_> h3sp4wn: vmware server
[16:11] <osh_> flats: locate file
[16:11] <installationrl> locate filename
[16:11] <Kr4t05> osh_: You ever try VirtualBox?
[16:11] <mweichert> hi! I have a ubuntu installation but want to try KDE. In synaptic, I see there is a metapackage called 'kde' at version 5:xx. Isn't the latest kde version only at 4?
[16:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: not just for super karamba a bunch of stuff i customized my kubuntu too much and now nothing works right
[16:11] <osh_> Kr4t05: nope. what is it?
[16:11] <installationrl> virtualbox lacks stuff
[16:11] <Kr4t05> osh_: If you have the option, you could try that.
[16:11] <installationrl> for instance, its USB support sucks.
[16:11] <QwertyM> Jucato: Thanks for that KDM resolution fix on UF by the way .. just encountered it. :)
[16:11] <Kr4t05> installationrl: Newer versions fix that.
[16:11] <h3sp4wn> osh_: I am using workstation its working fine here
[16:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: after this install i don't think im going to mess with it any more besides get it the way i like it to look then im done
[16:11] <h3sp4wn> osh_: (custom 2.6.23 kernel)
[16:12] <Jucato> QwertyM: np
[16:12] <Kr4t05> installationrl: I heard a review for the latest version on the Linux Action Show
[16:12] <h3sp4wn> !info vmware-package
[16:12] <ubotu> Package vmware-package does not exist in gutsy
[16:12] <installationrl> Kr4t05: Forgive me if I remain skeptical on that one til I see it working :)
[16:12] <installationrl> I will give it a spin though when I get time
[16:12] <h3sp4wn> osh_: If you I would build debian's vmware package (makes deb's for all vmware stuff)
[16:12] <Kr4t05> installationrl: Of course. :)
[16:12] <flats> how do I "start a new session in KDM with KDE 4."
[16:12] <osh_> Problem is that I have a vmware image with windows and all work-related programs on it, so unless virtualbox plays vmware images I relly need vmware.
[16:13] <h3sp4wn> osh_: Then if it does stop working you can use vmware-any-any easily
[16:13] <flats> you can get the vmware player if you already have the vmx file
[16:13] <jesse__> mweichert: just install the kubuntu-desktop package; the '5' is a kubuntu-specific version number
[16:13] <Jucato> flats: the instructions are on the release announcement page
[16:13] <mauri_> i'm not able to upgrading kubuntu to version 7.10
[16:13] <osh_> wwhat's the diff between the server and the player then?
[16:13] <kaminix> When I try to enter "enter support for complex characters" in KDEs language/regional settings it is not checked when I press OK and look again.
[16:13] <mweichert> jesse_ hmm, okay - though I'm very interested in trying kde 4
[16:13] <flats> jucato:  I did all that, the last line is start a new session in KDM with KDE 4.
[16:14] <flats> How do I start a new kde session?  restart my computer?
[16:14] <osh_> flats: ctrl-alt-backspace
[16:14] <osh_> flats: kills X.
[16:14] <khumba-yo> mauri_ : what happened?
[16:14]  * flats is scared
[16:14] <flats> afriad nothing will come back
[16:15] <Thonolan> is there any option to downgrade my adept frm 7.10 back to my 7.04?
[16:15] <Jucato> flats: that's why I didn't recommend that you be so daring to try out KDE 4 *beta* 3
[16:15] <flats> OK here goes.  brb ...I Hope......
[16:15] <mauri_> khumba-yo: adept-manager say me that a new 7.10 kubuntu version is available
[16:15] <Jucato> flats: don't worry though, the way Kubuntu made the packages, nothing should break
[16:15] <flats> hehe but then where's the fun
[16:15] <Jucato> flats: just logout
[16:15] <mauri_> khumba-yo: i clicked yes but
[16:15] <Thonolan> my upgrade break ...
[16:15] <osh_> I tried to download the old vmware-server deb but it doesn't install the dependancies.
[16:15] <lovre> i was trying to upgrade to 7.10, and i updated from adept manager. but i didnt get any wizards, and i dont know if i upgraded or not. How do i check?
[16:15] <mauri_> khumba-yo: after same minutes it says:Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[16:15] <Thonolan> now adept or apt-get wont work
[16:15] <jesse__> mweichert : not sure if you have to kave kubuntu-desktop in order to try kde4.  kubuntu.org has instructions on trying kde4 which may or may not require kubuntu-desktop
[16:16] <jesse__> khumba-yo : they renamed the commercial repository to 'partner'
[16:16] <mweichert> jesse_ any idea what the release date is for kde4?
[16:16] <lovre> i was trying to upgrade to 7.10, and i updated from adept manager. but i didnt get any wizards, and i dont know if i upgraded or not. How do i check?
[16:16] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - is your /etc/apt/sources.list modified to gutsy instead of feisty?
[16:16] <jesse__> mweichert : Real Soon Now. maybe for 8.04?
[16:17] <Jucato> lovre: did you follow the instructions step by step?
[16:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> so Jucatodo you think i should reinstall whats your opinion im on the format page and i dont know if i should do it
[16:17] <Jucato> lovre: and don't repeat your question every minute
[16:17] <flats> well still KDE 3.5.8
[16:17] <lovre> Jucato: ok, sorry, and yes i did
[16:17] <osh_> mweichert: december. don't remember the exact date.
[16:17] <installationrl> I'm still not using upgrades for OSes that aren't Debian
[16:17] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: not really sure if you should. not knowing what state your system is in
[16:17] <installationrl> and I mean straight, plain debian
[16:17] <mauri_> khumba-yo: i dont know
[16:17] <flats> hmmmm
[16:17] <boubbin> my kaffeine aint playing divx in gutsy, how come ?
[16:17] <Chousuke> hm
[16:18] <Jucato> flats: you will have to choose the KDE 4 from the Session menu in the login screen
[16:18] <flats> oh darn, thanks jucato
[16:18] <installationrl> I've never found in-place upgrades worth the hassle in any other os.
[16:18] <Chousuke> My irssi had somehow gotten stuck in the backlog at yesterday 22:00
[16:18] <flats> brb  again
[16:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: its not that bad but i really dont know how to fix any thing
[16:18] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - then u should check it out or even change it - then upgrade your system in the console... ;)
[16:18] <Chousuke> took me three minutes to scroll it to the present :P
[16:18] <armadillo> salve, c'e' in linea qualche italiano?
[16:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: but this week im getting a bash command handbook
[16:18] <Jucato> !it | armadillo
[16:18] <ubotu> armadillo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:19] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - just replace all "feisty" with "gutsy" in sources.list
[16:19] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: good luck :)
[16:19] <installationrl> AT0M1CB0MB3R: have you considered getting the interweb? :)
[16:19] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: if you really want to learn, I'd suggest you try to learn how to fix what's broken first
[16:19] <mauri_> khumba-yo: sorry, i dont remember where to find souce list file
[16:19] <lovre> Jucato: ok, now im getting an error
[16:19] <osh_> mauri_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:19] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: so i shouldn't reinstall?
[16:19] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - ^^
[16:20] <mauri_> osh_: thanks i've just find it
[16:20] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: my opinion. yes. learn first before reinstall... unless you want the easy way out :)
[16:20] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: i think your right im gonna restart and try to fix my comp
[16:20] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - dont forget to sudo ... ;)
[16:20] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> brb
[16:20] <osh_> Hmm, no vmware server and no vmware player in gutsy. :-(
[16:20] <mauri_> khumba-yo: they are already gutsy
[16:21] <LjL> osh_: oh, that's true. well there is virtualbox though
[16:21] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - good, then you can log off from your gui and log in on the console, lets say ctrl-alt-F2
[16:22] <Jucato> LjL: has the problem w/ virtualbox been fixed though?
[16:22] <khumba-yo> .. then sudo apt-get update
[16:22] <Jucato> I mean in the repos
[16:22] <LjL> Jucato: which problem?
[16:22] <khumba-yo> ..then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:22] <Jucato> LjL: it needs kernel modules
[16:22] <flats> well KDE4 is runningbut no icons or programs
[16:22] <Jucato> which wasn't packaged earlier
[16:22] <flats> anyone else have that problem?
[16:22] <Jucato> flats: like I said, it's not exactly something for a newbie to get into
[16:22] <LjL> Jucato: ah, i haven't tried, but i thought they'd get that set up for final. i do distinctly recall getting new modules from apt... let me see
[16:23] <Jucato> flats: and not everyone is trying to run a *BETA* release
[16:23] <LjL> Jucato: it should be fine
[16:23] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - this should work quite good but it lasts maybe 1 or 2 hours...
[16:23] <flats> Oh I thought it was somewhat complete.  Beta usually means it's ready except for bugs
[16:23] <Jucato> LjL: ah yes I see the packages now :)
[16:23] <flats> this is nowhere close
[16:23] <Jucato> flats: not really. you should read the release announcements first :)
[16:23] <Jucato> flats: right-click on the desktop -> Log Out
[16:23] <ToHellWithGA> is there a theme for kde similar to metacity's "human" theme?
[16:24] <ToHellWithGA> i'm kinda partial to the brown colors
[16:24] <Jucato> flats: you can actually also right-click on the desktop -> Run command
[16:24] <Jucato> then run an app
[16:24] <flats> thats how I got konversation open
[16:24] <osh_> LjL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3577870 That one sais that downloading -> installing should pick up dependancies, but it won't. not for me.
[16:24] <flats> so there's still a  ways to go with KDE4 then, I thought it was usable, my bad
[16:25] <Artimus> ToHellWithGA: http://www.openwarriors.iblog.co.za/2007/10/07/ubuntu-human-kde-colour-scheme/
[16:25] <ToHellWithGA> cheers
[16:25] <LjL> osh_, i suspect the canonical gutsy repositories aren't currently in very good order.
[16:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hey Jucato :]
[16:25] <jesse__> is medibuntu still useful to have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[16:25] <Jucato> flats: it is a bit, but you only most probably installed only the very base apps, and also it's not end-user usable yet
[16:25] <Jucato> yo AT0M1CB0MB3R
[16:26] <drama1981> anybody having major display probs radeon xpress 200 on gutsy? top and bottome title bars take up my WHOLE screen.
[16:26] <boubbin> !kde4
[16:26] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[16:26] <osh_> LjL: I should probably report a bug on launchpad.net...
[16:26] <Jucato> flats: read up: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta3.php
[16:26] <LjL> osh_: probably. do check out virtualbox in the meanwhile, perhaps it works well enough for you.
[16:27] <osh_> LjL: But it won't play vmware images, right? So my MS-Office, MS-Project and all that is gone until vmware starts working for me again?
[16:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: I'm going to try to fix all of my problems. Hopefully it won't be that hard. So to start how about the ~./kde/autostart? Where do I put that?
[16:27] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - still there?
[16:27] <LjL> osh_: no, it won't, though i can't exclude there are converters...
[16:27] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it's ~/.kde/Autostart/ it's already there.
[16:28] <Jucato> !autostart | AT0M1CB0MB3R
[16:28] <ubotu> AT0M1CB0MB3R: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[16:28] <mauri_> khumba-yo: yes....LjL suggested me to remove canonical line into source file
[16:28] <mauri_> khumba-yo: it now works
[16:28] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - 8D
[16:28] <drama1981> also get vga not support h48 v89 on boot. my screen goes black until the login screen but its so huge i cant see anything i just have to type my name and pass (cant see the box though)
[16:29] <h3sp4wn> jesse__: they won't switch to kde4 for an lts release
[16:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: do i have to install "kcontrol-autostart" cause i just alt f2'ed it and it didn't work
[16:29] <mauri_> khumba-yo: thanks again also tu you
[16:29] <jeroenvrp>  is it default that k/ubuntu does not allow X from localhost?
[16:29] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: if you want to. you can always just manually add things to the ~/.kde/Autostart folder
[16:30] <osh_> LjL: I'll just see if I can get vmware fixed. Worst case I'll just have to downgrade back to feisty and use that.
[16:30] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - np, ur welcome *lol*
[16:30] <flats> jucato: thanks for the help.
[16:30] <bentob0x> !ati
[16:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:30] <jeroenvrp> so you have to a xhost +localhost first
[16:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: ok :]
[16:30] <flats> brb
[16:30] <jeroenvrp> and how to make xhost +localhost permanant?!
[16:30] <jesse__> do intel i810 video cards use a restricted driver?
[16:31] <kaminix> Well then, KDE 4 Beta 3. Tell me what cool stuff I can do. :D
[16:31] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: don't use xhost
[16:31] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/superkaramba/questionsanswersandtips.html#id2546132
[16:31] <installationrl> Has any update fixed failure to detect some 8 series nvidia cards?
[16:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: i can't find kde autostart
[16:31] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: what should I use instead?
[16:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> thanks Jucato
[16:31] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: in Konqueror, type the location ~/.kde/Autostart
[16:32] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: ~ is shorthand for your home directory (/home/username)
[16:32] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: su user_running_x -c "xauth extract - $DISPLAY" | xauth merge -
[16:32] <ctw> Hi! I just upraded to Gutsy on my HP Pvilion dv1000 laptop and I am having some trouble with the graphics (integrated intel centrino chipset). Ever since the upgrade the graphics seem to be extremly slow and I can't get my desktop extended to my external screen with xinerama anymore. Any ideas?
[16:32] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: .kde is a hidden folder in your home directory
[16:32]  * installationrl (is in the process of moving terabytes of data, so barely has enough bandwidth for irc let alone updates)
[16:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: how do i enable session support in kcontrol
[16:33] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn:
[16:33] <jeroenvrp> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/jeroen/.Xauthority
[16:33] <jeroenvrp> xauth: (argv):1:  unable to read any entries from file "(stdin)"
[16:33] <installationrl> so is 8600/8800 detection by restricted-manager ok after updates?
[16:33] <installationrl> on feisty?
[16:33] <jerem> Y a t'il des french ici?
[16:33] <Jucato> !fr | jerem
[16:33] <ubotu> jerem: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:33] <LjL> osh_: downgrading is not quite supported
[16:33] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it should be enabled  by default. in System Settings ->Advanced -> Session Manager
[16:33] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: or you can use - export XAUTHORITY=/home/<whatever-yourusername-is/.Xauthority
[16:33] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it should be set to "Restore from previous session"
[16:34] <Flats> whats a good place to look for linux/ubuntu apps?
[16:34] <installationrl> look in the repos.
[16:34] <Flats> Tucows seems limited these days
[16:34] <Jucato> Flats: Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager
[16:34] <Jucato> Flats: Kubuntu has around 20,000 packages (apps + libraries)
[16:34] <Flats> well I mean organized with descriptions
[16:34] <jesse__> Flats: packages.ubuntu.com is also nice for finding the thousands of packages
[16:34] <Jucato> yes  of course they have descriptions
[16:34] <Flats> there we go.
[16:34] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: should 	I restart X
[16:35] <khumba-yo> ctw - have you checked the system preferences for proprietary drivers?
[16:35] <installationrl> ifg you want to go further afield or find inspiration, look in linux format, sourceforge and happypenguin.org  :)
[16:35] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: No should just work - try it
[16:35] <Jucato> Flats: there we go? packages.ubuntu.com is just an online service to view what you can view in Adept Manager
[16:35] <jeroenvrp> doesnt work
[16:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: it is but it still doesnt restore all of my themes :[
[16:35] <armadillo> i need driver for polaroid pdc 3030 for kubuntu, someone can help me?
[16:35] <jeroenvrp> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0
[16:35] <jeroenvrp> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[16:35] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: ". For some themes you will also need to right mouse button click and reload the theme at least once after running it so that the config file will get written to your home directory."
[16:36]  * ScorpKing waves..
[16:36] <Flats> yes but it organizes it nice and neat
[16:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: lol i just read that haha
[16:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> let me try that
[16:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: how do i check if it got written into the folder
[16:37] <Jucato> Flats: have you even taken a look at Add/Remove Programs? it's not organized? it's not neat?
[16:37] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: um... I forgot :)
[16:37] <Flats> lemme see.
[16:37] <installationrl> add/remove programs seems exactly what you'd want tbh.
[16:37] <ScorpKing> if i do lshw i get --network UNCLAIMED (RTL-8139). eth0 is not there. how do i setup the card?
[16:37] <jesse__> Jucato : Add/Remove programs is fairly slow (IMHO) and there's a lot to be said for a web browser's "find in page"
[16:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: dang ill try figuring it out
[16:38] <installationrl> Woo!
[16:38] <Jucato> jesse__: true. well whatever..
[16:38] <Argh> re Ihr  .... :-)
[16:38] <Jucato> whatever floats his boat...
[16:38] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: I think it's ~/.superkaramba
[16:38] <Flats> actually it is pretty good.  The good thing about it is I can uninstall the junk I didn't even know was installed
[16:38] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: works fine here with just - sudo -i and then export XAUTHORITY=/home/samw/.Xauthority && export DISPLAY=:0.0
[16:39] <Jucato> Flats: careful with what you categorize as "junk"
[16:39] <jeroenvrp> ah sudo -i
[16:39] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: read about the "mit magic cookie"
[16:39] <Jucato> just because you don't know what it is, doesn't mean it's not needed
[16:39] <VousDeux> so, if I 'sudo lshw' and the results do not show hardware I expected to see, how would I go about correcting that?
[16:39] <mauri_> khumba-yo: sorry, are you able to help me to configure my webcam
[16:39] <xenol> i got a question if i need to install codecs once again after upgrade to gutsy?
[16:39] <drama1981> anybody use radeon xpress 200 graphics?
[16:39] <Jucato> VousDeux: plain lshw doesn't work?
[16:40] <h3sp4wn> drama1981: No noone does (not even the people who use them)
[16:40] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: still doesnt work
[16:40] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - sorry, not sure, whats wrong ?
[16:40] <VousDeux> Jucato: what works better?
[16:40] <Jucato> VousDeux: I don't think you need sudo for lshw
[16:40] <VousDeux> Jucato: oh, that was a question...
[16:40] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: PEBCAK ( I have just tested it and it works 100% with gutsy and xterm )
[16:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: they're all written in there
[16:40] <VousDeux> Jucato: it warns me if I don't use sudo
[16:40] <Jucato> hm...
[16:40] <Jucato> weird
[16:40] <stephen> anyone can tell me how to enable compiz fusion in 7.10?
[16:41] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Uses some stuff in /proc that cannot be read by user
[16:41] <ToHellWithGA> when i run kcontrol things look normal.  when i run VirtualBox things look HUGE and unrefined.  do y'all have any ideas on that? http://thestonepedo.dyndns.org/images/VirtualBox_Is_Big.jpg
[16:41] <juan> hello all! can anyone tell me how to configure konqueror as my default file manager?
[16:41] <Azzco> I really need some help here... I have no idea how to get my computer past "ISOLINUX 3.36 Debian-2007-08-30" I want a fresh install of kubuntu but I can't boot =(
[16:41] <VousDeux> "WARNING: you should run this program as super-user."
[16:41] <juan> instead of dolphin
[16:41] <Jucato> VousDeux: I see...
[16:41] <Jucato> !dolphin | juan
[16:41] <ubotu> juan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[16:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: but there isnt anything in my autostart folder
[16:42] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: that's ok
[16:42] <Jucato> session management will handle it automtically
[16:42] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: the Autostart folder is only for things you put in manually
[16:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok
[16:43] <mauri_> khumba-yo: it simple.....kubuntu didn't recognixe my webcam
[16:43] <claydoh> Jucato: do you ever sleep?
[16:43] <Jucato> claydoh: of course! in an hour or so :)
[16:43] <jesse__> Azzco : have you confirmed that the CD works in another computer?
[16:43] <Jucato> after 2 bottles :)
[16:43] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: I dont think its a PEBCAK
[16:44] <ScorpKing> Jucato: only 2? that's quick. :P
[16:44] <donsdw> How do I get Kubuntu to auto-login.  I am the only one using this computer.
[16:44] <claydoh> Jucato: cool you always seem to be here when I am awakew, and we are on opposite sides of the planet :)
[16:44] <stephen> anyone can tell me how to access network folderes?
[16:44] <VousDeux> it's pebkac
[16:44] <Jucato> claydoh: hehe :)
[16:44] <xenol> why does few things like OOo and video waching doesnt work after upgrade to gutsy?
[16:44] <Jucato> ScorpKing: yeah, I'm not into drinking much
[16:44] <shogun_> whois Jucato
[16:45] <claydoh> hehe
[16:45] <h3sp4wn> VousDeux: Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard
[16:45] <ScorpKing> lol
[16:45] <VousDeux> no, keyboard and chair
[16:45] <sebastian^> :)
[16:45] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - sorry, I never used a webcam :/
[16:45] <VousDeux> just yanking your chain
[16:45] <jeroenvrp> anyhow xhost +localhost is working
[16:45] <mauri_> khumba-yo: ok thanks however
[16:45] <stephen> is this the support channel for kubuntu or what?
[16:46] <buz> as opposed to?
[16:46] <Flats> OK I'm a trillian (windows) user for various IM clients.  Without having to go thru 30 different clients, any recommendations?  Pidgin seems decent but what seems to be the most popular?
[16:46] <khumba-yo> :)
[16:46] <Jucato> stephen: it is
[16:46] <buz> Flats: kopete
[16:46] <jeroenvrp> Flats: kopete
[16:46] <Jucato> Flats: in here? Kopete
[16:46] <Flats> wow
[16:46] <Flats> cool
[16:46] <jeroenvrp> your in kubuntu
[16:46] <Flats> yep
[16:46] <MarkC> i use pidgin
[16:46] <buz> try kopete then
[16:46] <claydoh> kopete for KDe lovers, pidgin is good too
[16:46] <stephen> how do i do to access network folders?
[16:46] <MarkC> popular seems to be just an opinion, unless you'll like to do a poll...
[16:46] <buz> stephen: what kind of network folders
[16:46] <jeroenvrp> you also have SIM
[16:46] <Flats> zZZthats kinda what I hoped for
[16:47] <jeroenvrp> if that is still alive
[16:47] <stephen> i have folders shared from my windows computer
[16:47] <Jucato> !best | Flats
[16:47] <ubotu> Flats: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[16:47] <xehnida> Kopete crashes when logging to MSN
[16:47] <stephen> i want to access from kubuntu'
[16:47] <buz> stephen: google for smb4k
[16:47] <leexgx> before i make an duplicate on bugs launchpad web site how do i move or add it into gusty list of bugs
[16:47] <Jucato> xehnida: that's just a new bug. the fix is already available
[16:47] <buz> or just install it with sudo aptitude install smb4k
[16:48] <stephen> thanks buz
[16:48] <MarkC> how do i know if my pc has bluetooth inside it?
[16:48] <leexgx> most do not
[16:48] <leexgx> MarkC:
[16:48] <buz> stephen: you may also try smb://IPofWindows/sharename but smb4k is more comfortable
[16:48] <MarkC> leexgx: ?
[16:48] <leexgx> MarkC: most do not have blue tooth only some laptops do
[16:48] <stephen> okie
[16:49] <buz> MarkC: try hcitool scan
[16:49] <buz> if it doesnt work you either dont have BT or its turned off
[16:49] <MarkC> oh, thanks buz
[16:50] <boubbin> anyone had proböems with kaffeine in gutsy ?
[16:50] <buz> boubbin: works splendidly for me
[16:50] <xehnida> i install the "fix" for Kopete, it still crashes
[16:50] <ctw> khumba-yo: I don't need a proprietary driver for graphics
[16:50] <ctw> khumba-yo: it runs on the i810 driver
[16:51] <boubbin> buz for me, it just loads and never opens. no error msg's when i run from terminal
[16:51] <buz> mhh thats weird
[16:51] <ccherrett> I recently lost all keyboard functions on my laptop when logged into kde. even on the external board
[16:51] <khumba-yo> ctw - sry, just a guess... ;)
[16:51] <ccherrett> I can type in kdm but in kde it is a no go
[16:52] <ctw> khumba-yo: thanks anyway :)
[16:52] <VousDeux> that's a good point...I should probably enable the bluetooth and the touch pad before running lshw
[16:52] <ccherrett> should I try regenerating the xorg file?
[16:52] <buz> ccherrett: if you're feeling adventureous sure
[16:52] <buz> but make backup of current one first
[16:53] <buz> it does sound like a kde issue though
[16:53] <shogun_> hey everyone, will it be a problem if i install new gutsy packages from adept? the upgrade installation stucked at 0%, so i closed it
[16:53] <stealth_> hi folks, i've installed the new gutsyGibbon release, and have problems with the startup, it takes 5 min. from grub to the login screen, what can it be? the pc is not really slow 2,2Ghz. Can somebody help please?
[16:53] <buz> shogun_: i would not mix feisty and gutsy packages
[16:53] <ccherrett> buz: hmm any thoughts on what to try?
[16:53] <mauri_> sameone can help me to configure my webcam?
[16:53] <jesse__> ccherrett: are your windows actually loading/drawing correctly?
[16:53] <ScorpKing> will the rtl8150 and rtl8187 modules work on a RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ card? can someone with that card check for me what they have loaded?
[16:53] <ccherrett> jesse__: yes
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> stealth_: take a look at dmesg
[16:54] <scheater6> stealth_: do you get a usplash (the kubuntu logo with a progress bar?_
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: will do
[16:54] <ccherrett> jesse__: I guess I could load flux to see if it is X or KDE
[16:54] <jesse__> ccherrett : damn, then you've got a different problem than me :P
[16:54] <ccherrett> :)
[16:54]  * ccherrett goes to load flux
[16:54] <stealth_> no there are no progress bar and no logo or something....
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: eh..... whats the problem?
[16:55] <khumba-yo> bye @ll
[16:55] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: keyboard stopped working in kde on the laptop
[16:56] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: external as well but only in kde
[16:56] <jesse__> ccherrett : try the "failsafe" session type as well
[16:56] <scheater6> stealth_: ah.  This is actually a common problem it gutsy.  A bug that's being worked on.  When the usplash doesn't show, then your computer goes into suspend before the KDM shows up.  But there's a pretty easy fix
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: odd
[16:56] <ccherrett> jesse__: failsafe works fine
[16:56] <mauri_> sameone can help me to configure my webcam?
[16:56] <ccherrett> jesse__: even the login scren works
[16:57] <jesse__> ccherrett : what kind of laptop is it?
[16:57] <darkox> how to install drivers for nvidia geforce mx5200?
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: I'm using the 8139too and 8139cp modules
[16:58] <ScorpKing> is there a package for it?
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: its in the kernel....
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> darkox: use the restricted-manager-kde
[16:58] <scheater6> stealth_: sry - trying to find the forum post with the instructions that fixed mine!  brb
[16:58] <ccherrett> jesse__: toshiba satellite
[16:58] <ScorpKing> i'm using xubuntu 7.04 an a box and it's not on the machine
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: you can't modprobe it?
[16:59] <damianos> hi
[16:59] <jesse__> ccherrett : I am sadly out of ideas; did your upgrade go smoothly?
[16:59] <damianos> Is there anybody who uses bluetooth ?
[16:59] <scheater6> stealth_: ah!  Got it, alright, ready?
[17:00] <voicu> if i want to learn about creating simple programs that access the internet, where should i start? i'd like to use C/C++
[17:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: your the best that fixed my problem
[17:00] <damianos> I have issue with pairing my mobile with PC
[17:00] <ScorpKing> nosrednaekim: i did. lshw say the card is unclaimed. i only have rtl8150 and rtl8187 modules on that box.
[17:00] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: great!
[17:00] <stealth_> yeah thanx ready...
[17:00] <VousDeux> enabling the bluetooth and the touch pad didn't seem to make a difference for lshw...they are still not shown
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: try making a new user.
[17:00] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: kde docs are great too!
[17:00] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: so is google :D
[17:00] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: root can type
[17:00] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: so it is a corruption in the .kde dir
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: you have root login enabled for KDE?
[17:00] <ccherrett> I will backup and snuff it'
[17:00] <damianos> ?
[17:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: but what about themes that i download from super karamba
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: back up your email and wipe it :)
[17:00] <damianos> where i can find kbluepin ?
[17:00] <spawn57> any of you having trouble logging onto msn using kopete using 7.10?
[17:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i add those to there? Jucato
[17:01] <damianos> for example ?
[17:01] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: you can startx in failsafe
[17:01] <damianos> in which pacage ?
[17:01] <scheater6> stealth_: check /etc/usplash.conf and make sure the x value is 1024 and the y value is 768
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: oh.. thats not root
[17:01]  * ccherrett goes on a snuffing fest!
[17:01] <xehnida> kopete fix = kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:01] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: same way, you just run them once then right-click to close them, run them again, and leave them open when you logout
[17:01] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: it says root
[17:01] <damianos> nobody uses bluetooth here ??
[17:01] <stealth_> yeah i will check...
[17:01] <jesse__> ccherrett : I had moved my .kde directory out of the way, and still couldn't type
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: really? oh ok >:(
[17:02] <LjL> !find kbluepin
[17:02] <jesse__> any other dot directories that might be causing the problem?
[17:02] <ubotu> Package/file kbluepin does not exist in gutsy
[17:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: thats not what fixed it i had to add to the autostart folder :[
[17:02] <damianos> ubotu: ?
[17:02] <LjL> damianos: seems you're out of luck
[17:02] <damianos> why ?
[17:02] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: oh... :(
[17:02] <scheater6> stealth_: then open (you'll have to use sudo) /etc/boot/menu.lst and find the kernel you're booting and add "vga=791" without the quotes to the end of that line
[17:02] <LjL> damianos: because it's not there?
[17:02] <damianos> so how can I pair my pc  and mobile phone
[17:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: its better then nothing
[17:02] <ccherrett> jesse__: did you relogin?
[17:02] <LjL> damianos: pair them to do what?
[17:02] <ccherrett> jesse__: kde rebuilds the dir on login
[17:02] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: they would probably be hiding somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba
[17:03] <damianos> kbluepin is used as pair_helper
[17:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok
[17:03] <Jucato> brb.. have to go
[17:03] <scheater6> stealth: and then "sudo update-initramfs -u -k `uname -r`" without the quotes
[17:03] <LjL> damianos: are you sure? i don't seem to have kbluepin, but i can pair devices fine
[17:03] <damianos> so if there is now kbluepin so it must be something else
[17:03] <LjL> damianos: is kbluetooth started?
[17:03] <jesse__> ccherrett : I restarted kdm
[17:03] <damianos> yes
[17:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: your correct
[17:03] <aldevaran> hola alguien habla en castellano
[17:03] <damianos> can u help ?
[17:03] <scheater6> stealth_: if you care, or need to find these instructions again later. the bug is listed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/63558
[17:03] <nosrednaekim> !es
[17:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[17:04] <aldevaran> gracias
[17:04] <LjL> damianos: i don't know. i can start the pairing from the other device (don't know how to start it from kubuntu), and then i'm simply asked for the PIN in kubuntu.-
[17:04] <LjL> damianos: i assume you have the "bluetooth" package installed?
[17:04] <damianos> LjL: Kubuntu asking you for pin ?
[17:04] <ccherrett> jesse__: still no change?
[17:04] <LjL> damianos: yes
[17:05] <damianos> LjL: for sure kbluetooth is installed
[17:05] <LjL> damianos: "bluetooth", not "kbluetooth"
[17:05] <jesse__> okay, I just created a brand new user and logged in; cannot type and windows are not finishing loading
[17:05] <damianos> LjL: /etc/init.d/bluetooth is working
[17:06] <ScorpKing> jesse__: do you have any full disks?
[17:06] <LjL> damianos: so if you initiate pairing from your phone (or whatever), what happens?
[17:06] <ccherrett> jesse__: can you test it with an external board or a live cd?
[17:06] <ccherrett> where is kmail hiding it's mail?
[17:06] <damianos> LjL: wait a moment i have never started pairing form my mobile phone
[17:06] <ccherrett> .kde/share/apps/kmail?
[17:06] <ccherrett> empty
[17:06] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: .kde/share/apps/kmail
[17:06] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: empty
[17:06] <LjL> damianos: how do you start it from kubuntu? i never knew of a way
[17:06] <ccherrett> hmm
[17:07] <jesse__> ScorpKing : smallest partition still has 6Gigs free
[17:07] <ScorpKing> ok
[17:07] <jesse__> ccherrett : it's more the windows-not-loading problem for me
[17:07] <mrtimbo> how do i play encrypted dvds?
[17:07] <ScorpKing> maybe hot cpu?
[17:07] <firexdcc> mit kb geht das brennen nicht
[17:07] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: sorry idiot erro on my part :)
[17:07] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: did you set your mailDIR to something else?like ~/mail?
[17:07] <damianos> LjL: I have nokia 6021 it seems that i cannot pair it form my phone
[17:08] <LjL> !de | firexdcc
[17:08] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: looking at roots .kde :( </shame>
[17:08] <mrtimbo> how do i play encrypted dvds?
[17:08] <LjL> damianos: well, what does it say? does it at least discover your kubuntu machine?
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> heh :)
[17:08] <ubotu> firexdcc: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:08] <seriekrock> i have intstalled emerald, but i dont have any themes exept for one, how do i get more themes? i cant find emerald-themes in adept
[17:08] <jim__> Hi all, having some issues on my Dmesg with regards my CDROM which worked fine in 7.04 but in 7.10 I an't access it at all The message I get repeatedly is **hdb: status error: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
[17:09] <mrtimbo> how do i play encrypted dvds?
[17:09] <scheater6> stealth_: according to launchpad, a fix has been released, so check adept and see if you have an update to kubuntu-artwork-usplash or usplash-theme
[17:09] <LjL> !dvd
[17:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:09] <jerem> ya des french ici?
[17:09] <LjL> !fr | jerem
[17:09] <ubotu> jerem: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:09] <mrtimbo> thank you
[17:09] <jesse__> restating my problem: brand new user logs in, mouse is fine.  open Konsole from kmenu, the window is created but the menu/icons/tabs take between 1 and 2 minutes to render and for me to be able to start typing
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: hummmm do you have XGL installed?
[17:10] <VousDeux> it seems like konqueror should be able to switch between file management mode and web browsing mode depending on what has been entered into the address bar
[17:10] <jerem> french?
[17:10] <jesse__> nosrednaekim : dpkg --get-selections says no
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[17:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> VousDeux: I think it can
[17:11] <stealth_> big thanx @scheater i wanna try....
[17:11] <VousDeux> nosrednaekim: that does not seem to be the default behavior
[17:11] <jesse__> my problem occurs for konqueror and I assume all other apps as well
[17:11] <jerem> ya des french ici?
[17:12] <jesse__> nosrednaekim : Installed: (none)
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: hmm ok. could you possibly try installing another WM?
[17:12] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: it worked thanks
[17:12] <jesse__> nosrednaekim : 'failsafe' session type works fine
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: ok...sweet
[17:12] <scheater6> jerem: nous parlons l'anglais
[17:12] <ScorpKing> lol
[17:13] <jim__> Actually I may have found the problem, could someone just confirm that this is WRONG - cheers - /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: ah.. right.
[17:13] <jesse__> nosrednaekim : will install/try fluxbox
[17:13] <scheater6> jerem: On parle le français dans *kubuntu-fr
[17:14] <ScorpKing> jim__: i don't think udf should be in there unless you read mac disks.
[17:14] <LjL> jerem has left ages ago, scheater6
[17:14] <scheater6> ljl: yea, just saw that.  I figured if he didn't get the ubot message I'd give telling him myself ago.  Thanks anyway
[17:14] <jim__> ScorpKing: Its the default from my install, it seems strange that it sets hdb as my cdrom and its noauto as well
[17:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ScorpKing:  should i install wine since i like to use adobe photoshop/americas army and other stuff
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: actually, there is a version of America's Army for linux
[17:15] <scheater6> wonder what happened to stealth_?
[17:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> AT0M1CB0MB3R: REALLY omg i loove that game
[17:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: help me out?
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> let me see if I can find it
[17:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> iloveyou
[17:17] <juan> i have a small problem, now when starting desktop effects at startup,it is the last thing it does, so it loads everything and then the screen goes black until it loads compiz and beryl
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/31/1658218
[17:17] <blendtux> yes juan
[17:17] <blendtux> and you want it to first start i guess juan
[17:17] <juan> yes
[17:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: your the best but will adobe photoshop run on linux
[17:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ?
[17:18] <juan> any idea onhow to do this blendtux ?
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: only with wine
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> if then...
[17:19] <blendtux> i dont have no idea how to change it juan, but maybe you can go to the #beryl channel
[17:19] <_thomas> hi
[17:19] <juan> so it is normal, blendtux ?
[17:20] <blendtux> i dont know juan
[17:20] <juan> alroght, thanks for your hlp
[17:20] <_thomas> i've got a dual core cpu and I was testing it a bit, and i saw super_pi only uses one of the 2 cores, how can I set it to use both?
[17:21] <eljefe> hello, how can i charge my Mtotrola Razr off of the USB?  It used to work but now it doesn't, even though dmesg recognizes the plug-in of the phone
[17:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: but thats a oooooooooollllllllllllddddddddddd version
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> eh really?
[17:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: can i run a newer version?
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> prbably
[17:21] <spawn57> does kopete connect to msn on 7.10 for all of you?
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> bug 513500
[17:22] <eljefe> kopete and msn never seem to get along
[17:22] <_thomas> yeah, you just have to install a new kdelibs packet
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> spawn57: there is a bug in the current KDElibs
[17:22] <spawn57> hmm damn...wonder want's happening to me
[17:22] <_thomas> spawn57:
[17:22] <spawn57> nosrednaekim: got a link for me?
[17:22] <_thomas> 1 sec
[17:22] <jesse__> neat.  loaded icewm (new user).  WM starts just fine, xterm loads and can be typed in.  konsole takes >1min to load
[17:23] <jesse__> it appears my kde is somehow borked; how do I go about reinstalling it?
[17:23] <_thomas> the deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:23] <_thomas> the thread: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[17:23] <_thomas> spawn57:
[17:24] <spawn57> _thomas: I can't see what you're writing =(
[17:24] <_thomas> [18:23] <_thomas> the deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:24] <_thomas> [18:23] <_thomas> the thread: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[17:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: but can i download a new version for linux?
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: humm
[17:24] <juli> hello, may sound odd but after a little bit messing around a question, someone running compiz on kubuntu 7.10 (gutsy)?
[17:24] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: hmm doesn't seem like there is a newer version..
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> juli: yup
[17:25] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: any idea how to resore the account settings, incoming and outgoing in kmail from the backup?
[17:25] <_thomas> spawn57: just download the .deb and install it with gdebi
[17:25] <tuco_> Need to make my audigy2 notebook soundcard the default one on the laptop, tried same as for Feisty but it still won't work.
[17:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: its 2.8.2 the one yo gave me was 2.5
[17:25] <_thomas> i've got a dual core cpu and I was testing it a bit, and i saw super_pi only uses one of the 2 cores, how can I set it to use both?
[17:25] <spawn57> _thomas: got a link to this deb?
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: just replace the kmail DIR I would imagine
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yeah... so I see.
[17:26] <_thomas> spawn57: dude read up
[17:26] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: it just restored the mail :)
[17:26] <eljefe> hello, how can i charge my Motrola Razr off of the USB with my Kubuntu 7.04??  It used to work but now it doesn't, even though dmesg recognizes the plug-in of the phone
[17:26] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: left all settings out
[17:26] <_thomas> spawn57: the deb: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:26] <tuco_> I type that: gksudo asoundconf set-default-card example_sndcard
[17:26] <ccherrett> nosrednaekim: google time
[17:26] <juli> nosrednaekim installed compiz recently (worked on ubuntu), radeon driver for rs300 mobility radeon alrdy installed and running but dont really know where to activate compiz, typing "compiz" from console didnt work so far...
[17:26] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: now im sad
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> ccherrett: errr... hmm IDK... maybe it was in the kontact folder..
[17:27] <spimort> hi all
[17:27] <tuco_> and it gives me that:Please note that you are attempting to run asoundconf as a privileged superuser, which may have unintended consequences.
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> juli: do you have xgl installed?
[17:27] <eljefe> well i did nothing but it is working now
[17:27] <spawn57> _thomas: thanks man =]
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> tuco_: don'tworry about it ;)
[17:27] <juli> no, read that aiglx would be better, and alrdy a part of 7.10
[17:28] <juli> nosrednaekim (above)^^
[17:28] <hargibi> hey. I cant find the package beryl... Any update on that?
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yeah... sorry, thats the problem with linux... no big games.
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> juli: but is your card supported by it?
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> hargibi: its compiz-fusion now in gutsy
[17:29] <hargibi> ahh
[17:29] <hargibi> ok =)
[17:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: i wish i didnt have to have windows anymore I HATE IT and its taking up 500gb of space i could be using for linux
[17:29] <vrun> Hi Folks ... I desperately need your help on the upgrade to 7.10 :-(((  ... Distribution Upgrade hangs on "configuring kdeaddons-doc-html ... for 20min now :-(((
[17:29] <tuco_> It is recognized Nos same as in Feisty, only now I can't default it
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[17:30] <tuco_> is there any specific commsnd to make it the default one?
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> tuco_: ask on #alsa
[17:30] <tuco_> what do I type?
[17:30] <juli> nosrednaekim should be (at least according to the list of aiglx) though im a bit confused about notebook sticker saying its a "9000IGP" (would not be supported) and lspci saying it would be 9100IGP (supported)...
[17:30] <lovre> hi. i was trying to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10, but i got some errors, some packages could not be installed for an unknown reason. Now it just stays on 2% of upgrade, and not moving.... why, how, what to do now
[17:31] <vrun> What's going to happen if I cancel the process ?
[17:31] <ubuntu__> can anyone tell me how to mount my harddrive while I am in the livecd?  i need to copy some files over
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> juli: ok,my bro has the same chip, yes its supported by AIGLX
[17:31] <jesse__> what kdelibs version should I have installed after the gutsy upgrade?
[17:31] <vrun> lovre: I am on 61% - but I does hang there too :-/
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> juli: run "compiz --replace"
[17:31] <juli> nosrednaekim ty ill try
[17:32] <RytmenPinnen> is it hard to make /home its own partition?
[17:32] <lovre> vrun: but its done "Fetching the upgrades", its stuck on "Installing the upgrades"
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: no
[17:32] <lovre> vrun: wouldnt it be easy to install
[17:32] <lovre> im dissapointed
[17:32] <RytmenPinnen> k, I'd like to do that now, after lots of hassle, I ended up formating after all :/
[17:32] <vrun> Yup ... fetching was not problem ... and I wouldn't have worried
[17:33] <RytmenPinnen> so now I want to have /home as a separate partition
[17:33] <vrun> I am "scared"
[17:33] <LEE986321> hello
[17:33] <ubuntu__> can anyone tell me how to mount my harddrive while I am in the livecd?  i need to copy some files over
[17:33] <davio> why whwn start beryl my dektop is white?
[17:33] <lovre> vrun: what to do now?
[17:33] <tuco_> Nos anything I need to do try to make the audigy2 the default card on my laptop?
[17:33] <juli> nosrednaekim there a paste service? getting an error message from the console...
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[17:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:33] <LEE986321> is Genii in here?
[17:33] <davio> why when start beryl my desktop is white?
[17:33] <lovre> i cant believe this could happen, a simple upgrade. I thougt that only windows have big problems with small operations
[17:33] <vrun> lovre: I simply do not know ... I am too scared to cancel the whole process... never happened to me before (and this is my third upgrade)
[17:34] <NickPresta> lovre, having bad luck with the Gutsy upgrade?
[17:34] <vrun> my third KUBUNTU update I should add
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> vrun: ah... all the fetching is done?
[17:34] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: do I do it in disk & Filesystems?
[17:34] <vrun> YES fetching went OK
[17:34] <lovre> NickPresta: yes, it stopped after some error messages.
[17:34] <NickPresta> lovre, mine did too...
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: are you on the livCD?
[17:34] <lovre> NickPresta: what did you do
[17:35] <vrun> Installing hangs at 61% and "kdeaddons-doc-html"
[17:35] <tuco_> Vrun...connect using a network cable, go get Wireless assistant from adept, configure it and then remove Knetwork manager. This is how I solved exactly the same problem.
[17:35] <juli> nosrednaekim http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41355/
[17:35] <NickPresta> I close the upgrade window, unlocked apt, and then ran `sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade` a few times until all upgrades were done.
[17:35] <RytmenPinnen> nope I ended up formating after all, turns out most of the /home folder had dissappeared when I tried to do some partitioning on my own through the installation program
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> vrun: then you can cancle that safely and run from the terminal "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:35] <LEE986321> hmm sounds like a bad cd try recording one at a slower speed
[17:35] <tuco_> Me now I just need to sort my sound card out.
[17:35] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: you got that? I allways forget puttin the name first
[17:35] <vrun> tuco: I am using a cable ... network is OK (as you can see me typing on THAT PC) ;-)
[17:36]  * LEE986321 puts a pot pie inthe micro
[17:36] <lovre> NickPresta: why is this happening? I came from windows to linux because of shit like this. Simple stuff that goes berserk when least expected. Now im dealing with the same shit on linux too :( :(
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: so you have it installed?
[17:36] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim:  yup
[17:36] <RytmenPinnen> fresh and clean
[17:36] <vrun> nosrednaekim: The warning I get  when trying to cancel is quite scary ...  :-/
[17:37] <NickPresta> lovre, despite this problem, this is a fairly isolated incident. I've upgraded from Dapper > Edgy > Feisty and now to Gutsy and this is the first time something like this has happened. I'
[17:37] <lovre> vrun: i dont care, i will kill it with an axe
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> vrun: whats it say?
[17:37] <NickPresta> lovre, I'm experiencing a whole bunch of other problems with Gutsy at the moment. I wish I would've stayed with feisty.
[17:37] <vrun> OK .. so let's do it
[17:37] <lovre> NickPresta: there is no going back at this point?
[17:37] <LjL> lovre: wait, a distribution upgrade is a "small operation"? please reduce your expectations :) is upgrading from windows 2000 to XP a small operation?
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> juli: hmm pastebin the results of "glxinfo" for me
[17:38] <vrun> nosrednaekim: "Configuring kdeaddons-doc-html"  ... time is not counting anymore ... or wait ... you mean the message ?
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> vrun: yeah
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> the message
[17:38] <LEE986321> o who here wants to  help me set up my ati drivers now taht I have the PC seeing the ati card as a vessa?
[17:38] <tuco_> Ok Vrun. You have a wireless card on your pc?
[17:38] <lalalande> hi to the room.. i've rcently installed kubuntu and guarddog.now im having problems with konversation kopete korrent some help?
[17:39] <juli> nosrednaekim hmm shouldnt be, its what im getting when im doing "compiz --replace" in console
[17:39] <lovre> LjL: well, its not a small operation, ill give you that. But it is something that should go rather smoothly. Shouldnt it? I mean, doesnt every user want to be able to be up to date without having to spend sleepless night every time a new version is released?
[17:39] <vrun> The system could be in an unusable state if you cancel the upgrade. You are strongly adviced to resume the upgrade  ... "adviced" sic> _:-(
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> juli: no... I know... please pastebin the results of "glxinfo"
[17:39] <vrun> tuco_: NO WIRELESS on that PC
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> vrun: ah..ok... don't worry about it then... cancel it
[17:39] <juli> nosrednaekim on the way..
[17:40] <LjL> lovre, a new version is released only every six months. sure, we would all wish that upgrading were always smooth - but that's just not always the case as everyone's system is set up differently and there is plenty of things that may go wrong
[17:40] <vrun> OK ... I'll go for it
[17:40] <eljefe> lalalande: you can try using IPTraf (graphical-command-line app) to see which ports you need to open in Guarddog
[17:41] <tuco_> Ah OK. Well I could have helped you with wireless sorry.
[17:41] <vrun> lovre: Don't worry ... I have to work with win ... lotsa problems... KUBUNTU went fine ... until this incident ... I am hoping this is a freek one
[17:41] <vrun> THANKS GUYS
[17:41] <vrun> 'n gals
[17:41] <juan> what happened to the kbuntu forums?
[17:41] <lovre> LjL: i realise that. And if i were on linux for a long time i would probably be ok with it. But im just getting to know linux, and now this. A version upgrade that goes wrong. It sets me of, saying: linux is not at all that great.....
[17:41] <eljefe> juan: ??
[17:41] <nosrednaekim> vrun: ummm you know what you have to run now?
[17:41] <juli> nosrednaekim output of glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41356/
[17:42] <eljefe> lovre: windows upgrades stank too, it just that they were less often
[17:42] <mulander> lovre: people would tell you the same about xp to vista upgrades :)
[17:42] <LjL> lovre: if you thought linux was "great", then again, reduce your expectations. it's a decent free system.
[17:42] <tuco_> anyone who can lighten my solution to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158
[17:42] <eljefe> i prefer th e reinstall anyways, it makes me feel like everything is a bit cleaner
[17:42] <nosrednaekim> juli: no direct rendering.. there is your problem. run the restricted-manager-kde and see if it says there is a ATI driver available
[17:42] <juli> btw there a faster way putting peoples names in front of what you r saying when u want to adress someone specifically?
[17:42] <juan> when i try to access the kubuntu forums, i get :
[17:42] <juan> ERROR: Database error.
[17:42] <juan> Cannot execute the query: SELECT m.posterTime, m.subject, m.ID_TOPIC, m.ID_MEMBER, m.ID_MSG, m.ID_BOARD, IFNULL(mem.realName, m.posterName) AS posterName, t.ID_BOARD, t.numReplies, b.name AS bName, m.body, m.smileysEnabled, m.Icon, mem.avatar, av.filename FROM (smf_topics AS t, smf_messages AS m, smf_boards AS b)
[17:43] <vrun> norednaekim: Will run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  ... that OK ?
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> !tab | juli
[17:43] <ubotu> juli: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[17:43] <LjL> lovre: now anyway, what are you stuck at right now?
[17:43] <tuco_> Please someone help with my sound card. It is driven me banana!
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> vrun: yeah... and if that fails... just run it again and again
[17:43] <mauri_> xmms does not works if adept manager is not open...why
[17:43] <juli> nosrednaekim should i take the proprietary driver instead of radeon for sure?
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> juli: you can try it...
[17:43] <eljefe> juli in Konversation, you can type a few letters and hit [tab]
[17:44] <juli> tyvm all, makes life a lot easier ^^
[17:44] <lovre> Well, the problem is that i know windows suck. It sux so bad, and its update sux even worse! Its so bad i dont want to have anything to do with it anymore. So i look at my alternatives. There comes kubuntu. LInux. Is  there NO os that could just work? Is it much that im asking?
[17:44] <lovre> LjL: im stuck with installing the upgrades
[17:44] <vrun> norednaekim: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"   ... do I need to reboot ?
[17:45] <LjL> lovre: i don't think there is any usable operating system that give you 100%, or even 95%, certainty of a successful distribution upgrade without manual intervention, no.
[17:45] <eljefe> lovre: use the LTR (long term release) and just stick with the apps, but they do get outdated in the fast-moving world of FLOSS
[17:45] <juli> radeon driver supports graphics card according to lspci...
[17:45] <RytmenPinnen> lovre: you could allways try updating from CD Thats what I would've done if I knew what was going to happen to me when I did the network update :)
[17:45] <lovre> :)
[17:45] <LjL> lovre: can you give me a screenshot?
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | vrun
[17:45] <ubotu> vrun: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:45] <lovre> yes, wait
[17:46] <Jucato> claydoh: you still there?
[17:46] <claydoh> Jucato: yes i am
[17:47] <tysonsw> can someone give me a tip were I can get a good windows app?
[17:47] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: lets get down to bussiness with that partitioning :) if you got time I'm not in a hurry
[17:47] <Jucato> claydoh: what happened to kubuntuforums?
[17:47] <vrun> nosrednaekim: merci  - works ... or better "dist-upgrade has started again now"  :-)
[17:47] <juli> nosrednaekim: there is no other driver available for my card, initially he recognised the graphics card as RS300 but put "ati" driver in xorg.conf
[17:47] <claydoh> Jucato: dunno (as usual)
[17:47] <vrun> Anyone know what "package: ggzd" is ... it faild to install or upgrade
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: it would probably be easier if you just did it from the liveCD and installed again.
[17:47] <newsense07> i have vista installed on another partition :( and wnat to run ie in linux, will wine run ie ?
[17:47] <Jucato> claydoh: hehehe! it's down (which is surprising...)
[17:47] <RytmenPinnen> :o
[17:47] <claydoh> was down, looks like it is being recovered as I get some pages, but some bd errors
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> juli: huh. well seems you are stuck with no direct rendering... thank ATI
[17:48] <lovre> LjL: it showd some errors, it couldnt install some packages. Then its just like this: http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc86/kDevious/snapshot11.png
[17:48] <LEE986321> ok i am installing the river using this method how ever I was told to use guttsy when ever feisty pops  some on e want o help me through this?
[17:48] <Jucato> claydoh: Can't open file: 'smf_members.MYI' (errno: 145)
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: yes, it will
[17:48] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/
[17:48] <Jucato> claydoh: hm.... ok.. thanks anyway :)
[17:48] <Jucato> peace
[17:48] <tysonsw> can someone give me a tip were I can get a good windows app?
[17:48] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: thanks
[17:48] <tuco_> Anyone having issues with audigy2 sound card in gutsy?
[17:48] <LjL> lovre: uhm, pastebin /var/log/dpkg.log (at least the last 100 or so lines of it)
[17:48] <juli> nosrednaekim: :-(( grrr ATI, ill try to look around for a solution tyvm so far!!!
[17:49] <mauri_> xmms does not works if adept manager is not open...why
[17:49] <claydoh> Jucato: yeah, i get that currently, earlier I got nothing, then a page or 2, then a more detailed error. I hink files are being re-uploaded
[17:49] <vrun> tuco_: Will let you know once I get there :-)
[17:49] <LjL> lovre: i assume now the HD doesn't seem to be crunching at all?
[17:49] <lovre> no
[17:49] <Jucato> claydoh: I hope everything's ok :)
[17:49] <LEE986321> juli if its ati x300 look at my bin also make sure if there in 64 bit mode that they have vessa in place of ati
[17:50] <LEE986321> juli http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/
[17:50] <tuco_> Ok Vrun thanks for that
[17:50] <claydoh> Jucato: me too
[17:50] <LEE986321> juli does hat help? I just need help folowing the directiosn
[17:50] <claydoh> sat is one of the few times I can try some actual forum mod work/tech support
[17:50] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: do you know how i could get wine to use my vista dlls rather than creating a ~/.wine folder and copying its own dlls there ?
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: no... and don't ever use vista dll's with wine
[17:51] <lovre> LjL: here is the whole day: http://pastebin.com/m6927678b
[17:51] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: lol i had a hunch that wpould be the answer , cool thanks
[17:51] <[ifr0g]> So any one who did not have a successful upgrade ?
[17:51] <Hamra> can i like add a folder to apt-get's path? so that it would search it first for packages then download if the pack. isnt there?
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> vrun: is the upgrade still going?
[17:52] <vrun> yup
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: probably a good idea to never use Vista period ;)
[17:52] <LEE986321> hmm I have the upgrade but my PC keeps trying to upgrade  lol
[17:52] <vrun> YES... stay away from VISTA as long as you can !!!
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[17:52] <jesse__> Hamra: odds are you want to use dpkg -i somepachage.deb instead
[17:52] <juli> LEE986321: no notebook sticker saying its a mobility radeon 9000, lspci saying rs300 mobility radeon 9100 IGP
[17:52] <LjL> lovre: so it stopped doing anything after 17.34?
[17:52] <LEE986321> Vista is the apittamy of all software
[17:52] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: used it about ten times since i bought it, i need ie for some sites though and was planning on gaming on it but i need more ram or something
[17:52] <jesse__> Hamra : or whatever the right-click action is in kubuntu these days
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: lol
[17:53] <seriekrock> anyone knows where i can find addon for xfire in pidgin or kopete?
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: yes, and it is 18:53 now
[17:53] <seriekrock> !xfire
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <LjL> lovre: kill it
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: long time
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: ok
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: killed. what now...
[17:53] <ariane> hi. i just installed kubuntu 7.10 and the nvidia drivers for graphic acceleration and i wanted to know how do i activate compiz fusion ? it is supposed to be installed by default with the 7.10 right ? could someone help me with this please ?
[17:53] <LjL> lovre: do you have any third-party repositories enabled, or third-party packages installed? if unsure, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:53] <lovre> LjL: should i format my disk and install again?
[17:53] <LEE986321> juli ergles sorry hmmm, may this can work wi th other drivers just substitue th x 300 for the others
[17:54] <[ifr0g]> so does gutsy dvd come with compiz ?
[17:54] <mauri_> xmms does not works if adept manager is not open..
[17:54] <lovre> LjL: im not sure, so here you go: http://pastebin.com/m5d44ca49
[17:54] <juli> LEE986321: hmm trying perhaps or seeing around who else having the notebook card and probs with it
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> ariane: its not instaled by default, get it with "sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager"
[17:55] <ariane> nosrednaekim: oh well, thanks a lot.
[17:55] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: let me guess, vistas version of ie doesnt work in wine does it ?
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: nope.
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> on 4 and 6 I think
[17:55] <Kr4t05> Okay... For some reason, when I upgraded to Gutsy, I didn't get Dolphin as my default file manager.
[17:55] <Kr4t05> It still opens Konqueror...
[17:55] <LjL> lovre: i strongly suggest that you remove like 44 (gutsy-proposed). then "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:56] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: can i dl ie and install it using wine ?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> !ie4linux | newsense07
[17:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:56] <lovre> LjL: why is this: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[17:56] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: i appreciate all your help, i never had a use for windows till now and i dont want to run it
[17:56] <ubuntu__> does anyone know how to access folders of a previous installation from the kubuntu livecd?  i am trying to copy over kmail email and korganizer settings from my previous installation
[17:56] <LjL> lovre: because not having kubuntu-desktop installed may seriously harm your upgrading - so, best to make sure it's installed, just in case.
[17:56] <[ifr0g]> newsense07, pls dont. Use ies4linux instead.
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> !info ie4linux
[17:56] <ubotu> Package ie4linux does not exist in gutsy
[17:57] <newsense07> oh man
[17:57] <lovre> LjL: sory for being dumb, but what is kubuntu-desktop? and why dont i have it installed :S
[17:57] <LjL> !kubuntu-desktop | lovre
[17:57] <ubotu> lovre: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> !info ies4linux
[17:57] <ubotu> Package ies4linux does not exist in gutsy
[17:57] <[ifr0g]> !compiz-fusion
[17:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[17:57] <newsense07> guess i could load an iso of vista in vmware right
[17:57] <LjL> lovre: i didn't say that you don't have it installed - i'm just saying it *might* not be, so better make sure
[17:57] <mauri_> xmms does not works if adept manager is not open..
[17:57] <LjL> !bot
[17:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:57] <LjL> !ies4linux
[17:57] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[17:57] <[ifr0g]> awesome.
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> thanks LjL
[17:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: can you help me with something else?
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: depends...ask :)
[17:58] <[ifr0g]> :)
[17:58] <Kr4t05> Gee, I forgot the kubuntu-desktop part of upgrading. :P
[17:58] <newsense07> cool, thanks everyone, im gonna give ies4linux a try than delete the vista partition all together
[17:58] <LjL> Kr4t05: if you use the update manager, that shouldn't be an issue as it's done automatically
[17:58] <tysonsw> kan someone help me with how I should install firefox on kubuntu???
[17:58] <Kr4t05> LjL: I couldn't... I kept crashing on me.
[17:59] <[ifr0g]> tysonsw, adept
[17:59] <Kr4t05> tysonsw: What he said.
[17:59] <K7> hi! i've intel pro wireless 3945 , and alice w-gate plus 2 as modem/router! can someone help me to connect ?
[17:59] <tysonsw> ifr0g adept??
[17:59] <tysonsw> ifr0g sorry linux newbie
[17:59] <[ifr0g]> tysonsw, k-menu > system > adept
[17:59] <Dr_willis> !adept
[17:59] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[17:59] <ubuntu__> does anyone know how to access folders of a previous installation from the kubuntu livecd?  i am trying to copy over kmail email and korganizer settings from my previous installation
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: mount the drive..
[18:00] <vrun> tysonsw:  use ADEPT ... i.e. klick Kubuntu icon klick SYSTEM, klick ADEPT
[18:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: my firefox crashes when i try to watch a video with mplayer is there a way to make VLC player default player for mpeg/wmv files
[18:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ?
[18:00] <[ifr0g]> lol
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: there MAY be...I don't use VLC so i'm not sure
[18:00] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: i have mounted the drive... but certain hidden folders are locked and say i do not have permission.... such as ~/.kde
[18:00] <LjL> !mount | ubuntu__
[18:00] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[18:01] <LjL> ubuntu__: use sudo.
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> ubotu: use sudo -i
[18:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about use sudo -i - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__:  use sudo -i
[18:01] <LEE986321> eh can some one help me with the follwing direction?
[18:01] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/
[18:01] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: is there a way to sudo the dolphin manager?
[18:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: if i uninstall every other player would that work?
[18:02] <LjL> !kdesudo | ubuntu__
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: "kdesu d3lphin"
[18:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdesudo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:02] <LjL> !kdesudo is <alias> kdesu
[18:02] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[18:02] <LjL> nosrednaekim: kdesudo in gutsy
[18:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !kdesu
[18:02] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesu » to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: no
[18:02] <tuco_> Let me know when you can help me Vrun ok!
[18:02] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: i get "command not found"
[18:02] <lovre> LjL: i get this error when trying to install kubuntu desktop: http://pastebin.com/m423494cc
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: "kdesudo d3lphin"
[18:03] <LjL> !no kdesu is <reply> In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[18:03] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[18:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !mpeg
[18:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:03] <newsense07> ies4linux worked great for me, man i love this channel
[18:03] <vrun> norednaekim:  I'M DONE ... only error remaining ist "ggzd"  ... GOING TO REBOOT now  x-ing fingers !!!
[18:03] <vrun> bye
[18:03] <LjL> lovre, you have not killed everything. pastebin "ps aux"
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> vrun: good luck!
[18:03] <vrun> :-)
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: we try :)
[18:04] <tuco_> Anybody having a problem with their sound card in Gutsy! I am trying to have my audigy2 the card by default but I can't.
[18:04] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim hey they there I fonaly figuresd out that issue
[18:04] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, mozilla-plugin-vlc
[18:04] <ubuntu__> nosrednaekim: it worked.... thank you.
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: yeah?
[18:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: OMG I LOVE YOU
[18:04] <newsense07> nosrednaekim: man your batting 100 today
[18:04] <lovre> LjL: here: http://pastebin.com/meee02c9
[18:04] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, i love you too
[18:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: :]
[18:04] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim yeah I had to change the ati drover to vessa in the 64 bit mode, but I still need help with the directions
[18:04] <giuseppe> hi all anybody knows how to install ubuntu on raid 0?
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> newsense07: lol
[18:05] <tysonsw> ifr0g thx for the help with adept.. love that program
[18:05] <LEE986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41357/ <<<<<those direcions
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: instructions for what..
[18:05] <[ifr0g]> tysonsw, yup, me too. But try to learn about apt-get too..
[18:05] <tuco_> Please kind people...this is doing my head in!
[18:05] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim for my ati I was told to replace gutsys with fiesty
[18:05] <[ifr0g]> :)
[18:05] <tysonsw> ifr0g ok.. what is the difernce beetwn them+
[18:06] <[ifr0g]> tysonsw, do you like typing commands ?
[18:06] <LjL> lovre: it got cut off... use a bigger terminal, or do "ps ax" instead
[18:06] <tysonsw> ifr0g not wo mutch.. but it could be good to learn
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: may I ask why you are not using the packages in the repositories?
[18:06] <lovre> LjL: http://pastebin.com/m5463578b
[18:06] <Dr_willis> learn the shell.. JUST do it! :)
[18:07] <Dr_willis> your patience will be rewarded
[18:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: it says its installed already
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: its useful if you want to install something from the command line (i.e. if KDE crashes)
[18:07] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim because of the ill fated BLOSD
[18:07] <tuco_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:08] <tuco_> I am going crazy damn it!
[18:08] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim or should it work now that I hcanged to vessa?
[18:08] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, huh, ok then uninstall  mozilla-mplayer
[18:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i just did
[18:08] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim okej..
[18:08] <LjL> lovre: sudo kill -s 9 7683 7837 10166
[18:08] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, i know this channel can be bad..
[18:08] <LjL> !adept crash fix | lovre, and if it still doesn't work
[18:08] <ubotu> lovre, and if it still doesn't work: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:08] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim and then the other question is how do I get the repos?
[18:09] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, its cause no one likes sound problems.. cause most of us dont have it. :D
[18:09] <tuco_> :-(
[18:09] <inaety> Hello I just installed Gutsy, however, Kopete doesn't have smooth scrolling before? on Feisty it was nice and smooth scrolling, now it's boring
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: what repositories?
[18:09] <lovre> LjL: done, what now
[18:09] <tuco_> It was working fine in feisty not there is no sound coming out of the speakers
[18:09] <mic> since my update to gudsy my kopete crash if a try to connect MSN network. It's the amd64 version, any suggestions?
[18:09] <tuco_> I have checked everything
[18:09] <LjL> lovre: now see if the apt-get stuff works
[18:09] <lovre> ok
[18:09] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, try giving more info on your card type and the problem in detail.
[18:09] <LEE986321> the ones for my ati drivers
[18:10] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim the aaati
[18:10] <tuco_> I have an duo core laptop...with intel onboard sound and an audigy 2 notebook sound card. I want the audigy 2 to be the default one not the intel onboard one.
[18:10] <Pete^_> I can't get my multimedia buttons to work in Toshiba Equium A100 Laptop, any ideas?
[18:10] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: for the ones you are installing, there IS no repository
[18:10] <apollo2011> hi everyone. I ran through the procedure to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy using the Update Manager, and it downloaded everything it needed, started applying the packages, and I checked on it every once in a while to make sure no messages had come up and the progress bar showed it was about halfway when I got a bunch of messages saying programs quit unexpectedly and then a message saying the update had been aborted. Now I can't get apt to show that any
[18:10] <apollo2011>  more packages need to be installed, but I presume the update manager was only half done. Anyone know what the problem is or what I need to do to complete the update?
[18:10]  * seriekrock is away: Borta för tillfället.
[18:11] <tuco_> The card is recognized so far
[18:11] <rand_acs> mic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29
[18:11] <ariane> all compiz fusion plugins are running except the cube. is it a bug or did i made a mistake while configuring compiz fusion ?
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: BTW... what model of graphics card do you have?
[18:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody know a website with mpeg videos on it
[18:11] <rand_acs> mic: that fixes the Kopete problem I believe
[18:11] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim x 300
[18:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> so i can test out this plugin
[18:11] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, maybe if there is some way you could disable the onboard on in the bios. it might switch.
[18:11] <mic> rand_acs: thanks
[18:11] <tuco_> I can't it is a laptop frog
[18:11] <Dr_willis> I still dont see how the cube makes  things more efficnent. :)
[18:11] <tuco_> but it was fine with Feisty
[18:11] <rand_acs> does anyone have access to ubotu?
[18:12] <rand_acs> that link should be added imo
[18:12] <LEE986321> after kicking in the vessa the screen flipped to a way better pitcture then  i restared
[18:12] <[ifr0g]> !sdkfsjdhf
[18:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdkfsjdhf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:12] <LEE986321> im running in 64 bit mode
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: ok
[18:12] <tuco_> I use the follow this step: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_change_the_default_soundcard
[18:12] <[ifr0g]> raddy_, http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi they have inst there..
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> rand_acs: lol
[18:12] <lovre> LjL: im getting this error when trying to dist-update: http://pastebin.com/m628099f8
[18:13] <lovre> LjL: :(
[18:13] <Stonki> hello, I just install kubunto 7.10 to replace my former gentoo installation. How do I enable compiz by default ?
[18:13] <rand_acs> nosrednaekim: hey it get's asked like every 15min :)
[18:13] <LjL> lovre: do as it says, sudo apt-get -f install
[18:13] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:13] <[ifr0g]> Stonki, cool so it comes by default ?
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: can't you just stay with vesa?I doubt manually installing will get you anywhere
[18:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:13] <lalalande> how can i erase a cd-rw from k3b?
[18:14] <apollo2011> Can I reboot safely if the update manager appears to have crashed halfway through the upgrade procedure but apt doesn't show any packages that need to be updated?
[18:14] <Stonki> ubotu: thanks
[18:14] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[18:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: do you know a website with mpeg/wmv videos on it
[18:14] <mic> rand_acs: yes it's working now, thx
[18:14] <rand_acs> mic: awesome :)
[18:14] <[ifr0g]> lovre, they have given you tips there.. try them
[18:14] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, regarding ?
[18:14] <mic> yes...
[18:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i want to test the plugin
[18:14] <mic> now i've just to get gudsy working on my ps3
[18:14] <tysonsw> I need some help with my aticonfig.. after I installed the program it sais that I should do a aticonfig. when I do that I only get a error:
[18:15] <joaquin30> hey there -- Beryl was super fast in Feisty, but now it all goes so slowly ...
[18:15] <Kr4t05> Okay... I've upgraded as properly as I can, but Konqueror is still acting as the default file manager.
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> apollo2011: run a "apt-get dist-upgrade" to be sure
[18:15] <mic> ubuntu installation breaks at 82%... "cannot reach / find the mirror server releases". seems that it does not bring eth0 up
[18:15] <ardchoille> I open kate as user and make a change to the config. Then I open kate with kdesu and noticed that same change has been made. Does kate not separate user account?
[18:15] <tuco_> anybody who want to help: here is this error message I get in the terminal http://pastebin.com/m595299a1
[18:15] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, http://www-eng-x.llnl.gov/documents/tests/mpeg.html
[18:15] <lovre> LjL: its working now. ill be back later with report :) i hope everything will go right. Thank you very much, i owe you a beer!
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: eh... you  should install the ATI drivers from the restricted-manager
[18:16] <johey> So, I frecked up my Feisty to Gutsy upgrade and now I'm about to do a fresh install. Is it anything to think of? I have backed up /home and /etc. How about my mySQL databases?
[18:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: tells me to install missing plugins
[18:16] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim where can i find it?
[18:16] <apollo2011> nosrednaekim: yeah i did that and it doesn't come back with anything that it needs to do
[18:16] <lovre> LjL: i have a problem allready
[18:16] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim eh I kinda need the 3d stuff
[18:16] <lovre> LjL: http://pastebin.com/m5feb35a5
[18:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: nvm i think i fixed it
[18:16] <lovre> LjL: what to do
[18:16] <[ifr0g]> tuco_, i would sugest not to run as root cause it says soo..
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> apollo2011: then you should be good
[18:16] <tuco_> How can I do that Frog?
[18:16] <apollo2011> nosrednaekim: k i'll give it a shot
[18:16] <[ifr0g]> :)
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: was it working on fiesty?
[18:17] <apollo2011> thanks
[18:17] <jesse__> woot, fixed my problem!  turns out that during the upgrade, the `scim` package got uninstalled
[18:17] <tuco_> I used to do the same in feisty and it worked
[18:17] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim eh I kinda need the 3d stuff
[18:17] <LjL> lovre: that's ok
[18:17] <jesse__> reinstalling it has restored KDe to working condition.
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> jesse__: ah!
[18:17] <lovre> LjL: how do i do what it says?
[18:17] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim yes how ever with the minor glitch that it was only using 32 mb of my cards ram
[18:17] <LjL> lovre: a reboot will do when you're finished, or « sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart » from a linux terminal (but don't do it now)
[18:17] <wesley> how can i best install compiz? sudo apt-get install comiz ?
[18:17] <lovre> LjL: ok, thanx
[18:18] <Kr4t05> wesley: That's about all there is to it. :)
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> LEE986321: then *I* would go back to fiesty
[18:18] <mic> wesley: yes
[18:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: fixed thanks
[18:18] <lalalande> how can i erase a cd-rw from k3b?
[18:18] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim where can i find restricted-manager?
[18:18] <LEE986321> hmmm
[18:18] <Kr4t05> lalalande: Tools -> Erase CD-RW
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: system setting-> advanced
[18:18] <[ifr0g]> johey, like your bookmarks or etc dir if you did any manual changes..
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: in the kmenu
[18:18] <LEE986321> nosrednaekim hates 32 bit
[18:18] <installationrl> Considering the DRASTIC things people change their power management settings to avoid, is it strictly wise to switch them back on, on the quiet, with updates?
[18:18] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, np
[18:18] <LEE986321> lol
[18:18] <lalalande> ..oh
[18:19] <jesse__> anyone know if laptop-mode is actually enabled by default in gutsy?
[18:19] <Kr4t05> lalalande: It's okay. :)
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: but uninstall those drivers that you were manually installing...
[18:19] <installationrl> I mean it's easier to just ignore it, unless you're the girl whose computer gets fried.
[18:19] <RytmenPinnen> jesse__: I'd say most likely not
[18:20] <h3sp4wn> jesse__: what does laptop mode entail ?
[18:20] <johey> [ifr0g]: I have backed up /home and /etc. I think I have backed up what I need except my mySQL databases.
[18:20] <h3sp4wn> jesse__: running the ondemand governor and changing it back if you are not logged into X ?
[18:20] <jesse__> h3sp4wn : it's tweaks for power management, mostly
[18:20] <don_> Hi, having a problem with the new Gutsy 7.10..
[18:21] <RytmenPinnen> don_: lets hear it
[18:21] <tuco_> I am giving up...going back to feisty.
[18:21] <bojan> hello, I just installed Gutsy (clean install from CD) on my slave drive. How do I mount my NTFS partition on my primary drive?  If I try to do it using Dolphin I get an error: "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused UID 1000"?
[18:21] <h3sp4wn> jesse__: 5.10 has better power management if you leave the default config than gutsy
[18:21] <installationrl> Even a big on-screen dialog saying ****YOUR CHANGES TO POWER MANAGEMENT SETTINGS HAVE BEEN RESET**** wouldn't be going too far tbh.
[18:21] <mic> hmm very friendly channel
[18:21] <mic> just a liittle bit too fast for me
[18:21] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: sry I am a real noob.. how do I unistall?
[18:21] <don_> OK< first, I did the upgrade thing, thru the net, after getting all 7.04 updates ( I read the instructions)  restarted after upgrade, was missing the kernel xx.22..  somehow
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: you ran the .run file, right?
[18:22] <bojan> by primary I meant master I'ts my windows install. I used to have Breezy before this, and I was able to mount my windows drive as Read only, although I forgot how I got it to work.
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> mic: sorry
[18:22] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: yepp
[18:22] <don_> so I downloaded and burned a CD of 7.10 Kubuntu from website, just installed it, all seemed fine, except my menuing
[18:22] <don_> for example, when I click on System, it gives a bunch of info, besides the name of the App
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: when it finished,it should have printed out a message about a location from which you could uninstall it... something like /usr/bin/ati or something
[18:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> How do i uninstall win
[18:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> wine
[18:23] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  how did you install it?
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> don_: that sounds like GNOME
[18:23] <don_> "Entries in K-Menu Adept Package Manager".   stuff like that for every app
[18:23] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, apt-get remove --purge wine
[18:23] <mic> nosrednaekim: ?
[18:23] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, better answer Dr_willis .. first
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> mic: sorry its too fast.... did you get lost in the scrollback?
[18:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: btw whats --purge meen
[18:23] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: no.. it only stated were I colud get the config file
[18:24] <mic> nosrednaekim: no ;)
[18:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: im ignoring him
[18:24] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: if I remember correct
[18:24] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, remove the config files as well.
[18:24] <mic> (not yet) - indeed
[18:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: Oh
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: hmmmm I think it has something else... run it again,
[18:24] <velvetfinchen> nabend zusammen
[18:24] <lalalande> every time i boot up kubuntu a get a message like: ..801] PCI:Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge 0000 :00 :1c.0
[18:24] <don_> Gnome?     I doesn't like Gnome, LOL
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: it may be printed to the command line
[18:24] <lalalande> what is this?
[18:24] <don_> that's why I got Kubuntu
[18:24]  * Dr_willis loves being ignored... 
[18:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> what did Dr_willis say?
[18:24] <[ifr0g]> Awwee.
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> lalalande: don't worry about it... normal kernel messages
[18:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: im not ignoring you anymore :[
[18:25] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  how did you install it?
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> don_: could you give a screen shot?
[18:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: you were jsut being meen yesterday
[18:25] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: Want a cookie ? (mit-magic-cookie)
[18:25] <velvetfinchen> oha deutsch gehört hir gar nidd her als sprachen *gg
[18:25] <Dr_willis> I was? never noticed..
[18:25] <[ifr0g]> lol
[18:25] <don_> I'll sure try, one sec.....
[18:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: from the system settings menu
[18:25] <Dr_willis> You dont want to know some of the... people i was having a heated discussion with in other channels. :)
[18:26] <Dr_willis> Fire up the package manager and 'unselect' it - should work.
[18:26] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: the installation only state were the log file is
[18:26] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: [ifr0g] helped me already
[18:26] <lalalande> but it takes about 2 min to boot up.. is this normal my pc is not old
[18:26] <lalalande> ?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: hmm ok, could you run "cat <path to log file>"in the terminal and pastebin it?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> lalalande: are you sure tats the only error?
[18:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: the reason i uninstalled it is cause it doesnt notice my other harddrive (the one with windows on it)
[18:27] <tysonsw> cat /usr/share/ati
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> lalalande: do "alt-f2" on boot and see what it hangs on.
[18:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Why does it need to notice the windows hard drive? wine dosent need a windows drive.
[18:27] <lee__> eh ok whats the comand line  for getting Xine ?
[18:27] <lalalande> hangs on?
[18:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: yes it does
[18:28] <tysonsw> nosrednaekimhow do you mean pastebin?
[18:28] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, which guide did you follow ?
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: ah..there we go... in the terminal type "cd /usr/share/ati"
[18:28] <don_> OK< got it, finally...
[18:28] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  Huh? you trying to run a windows app from the windows drive? or what?
[18:28] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  you can run wine with no windoes installed at all.
[18:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i didnt i just installed from system settings advanced menu
[18:28] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, Dr_willis is right ^
[18:28] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: ok..
[18:28] <tysonsw> now what+
[18:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: it made a fake windows drive when i already have a windows drive which i rather have it use
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: run "ls". there should be a file in there called "uninstall.sh" or something like that
[18:29] <serega> Hello, guys! I'm just from HelpingKubuntu wiki. I wish to help kubuntu with my programming skills. I'm senior C++ developer with some experience of Qt
[18:29] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: yes.. fglrx-uninstall.sh
[18:30] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  theres a wine config file then that you should change . by default wine uses the 'fake windows drive' in .wine/windows_drive or somthing like that.
[18:30]  * Dr_willis installs wine to check
[18:30] <Kr4t05> Can anyone help me figure out why Dolphin didn't step in as the default file manager when I upgraded.
[18:30] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: run "sudo sh fglrx-uninstall.dh"
[18:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: yeah it does
[18:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: but i dont want a fake one i rather have it use my real one
[18:30] <Dr_willis> but it all depends on the specifics of what you are doing I guess.
[18:30] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: you have to associate dolphin with the inode/folder MIMEtype
[18:30] <Dr_willis> using the 'real one' has totally trashed windows on me in the past.
[18:31] <don_> OK, how do I send it to you, nored?
[18:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: oh :[
[18:31] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  you are proberly better off  by reinstalling the windows apps you wish to use with wine.
[18:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: i dont really care i guess
[18:31] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: .dh didn't work but sh did
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> don_: hmmm good question.
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: sorry... typo :)
[18:31] <ardchoille> How come making a change to an app's config as user automatically makes the same change the that app's config for root?
[18:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: im just going to copy the stuff i need from windows to my linux partion
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: it ran and uninstalled it?
[18:31] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: Thanks
[18:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: its a 500gb harddrive being wasted by windows being on it :[
[18:32] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: if you use kdesudo... it uses your config
[18:32] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: "restore of system enviroment complete" " Uninstall fglrx driver complete"
[18:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: can you do me a favor?
[18:32] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: cool, now install the other driver
[18:32] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  Heh.. :)  more space for.. err.. vacation pics.
[18:32] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: what is it?
[18:33] <serega> looks like "Introduce yourself" step was failed ;)
[18:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: ask ardchoille to unignore me
[18:33] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: that did I in the restricted manager or.. what it was called?
[18:33] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Well, that's new. I also noticed that /root/.kde/* are symlinks to my user's configs. That wasn't so in Feisty.
[18:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> tell him to unignore little jon nosrednaekim
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: oh... maybe thats why :)
[18:33] <mbenedi> #kubuntu_offtopic
[18:33] <[ifr0g]> dhq, hi
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: LIL-Jon wants you to unignore him
[18:33] <dhq> [ifr0g], :) lol hi
[18:33] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: I don't have anyone on ignore
[18:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille: so you can see this text?
[18:34] <ardchoille> yes
[18:34] <[ifr0g]> dhq, upgraded already ?
[18:34] <dhq> [ifr0g], did you find the bluetooth app
[18:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> oh
[18:34] <dhq> [ifr0g], well yes
[18:34] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: run "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde" from the terminal
[18:34] <[ifr0g]> dhq, naa..
[18:34] <don_> I tried messaging, it won't let me..  LOL
[18:34] <[ifr0g]> dhq, but i did find some source
[18:34] <dhq> [ifr0g], well then help me out here
[18:35] <nosrednaekim> don_: make a thread on the ubuntu forums.
[18:35] <[ifr0g]> dhq, bluetooth-alsa
[18:35] <keoni86> anyone know where i can get a copy of the kubuntu dvd at a relativly decent speed
[18:35] <dhq> [ifr0g], so what do we do with that
[18:35] <don_> AH,   ok... one sec......
[18:35] <keoni86> im getting only 10k/sec on bittorrent
[18:35] <[ifr0g]> dhq, compile it.
[18:35] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  what torrent?
[18:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: will bluetooth work with my phone which has bluetooth
[18:35] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: "bash: kdesudo: command wasn't found"
[18:35] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  i was getting 1000k/s yesterday on the ubuntu iso torrent. :)
[18:35] <dhq> [ifr0g], but will it work
[18:36] <keoni86> im trying to get dvd tho
[18:36] <serega> tysonw: kdesu
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: oh... you're not on gutsy?
[18:36] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, That is what i was guessing. if your phone has a hands-free profile
[18:36]  * keoni86 is looking for which torrent it is
[18:36] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: no.. kubuntu
[18:36] <PolitikerNEU> I got a problem with an old kubuntu (7.04) live cd - I tried it on my Notebook, but it held with a blinking "_"
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: what does "lsb_release -a" say about your code name
[18:36] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, dhq  http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/
[18:36] <dhq> Dr_willis, your so lucky
[18:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i have a razr v3
[18:37] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, wow,
[18:37] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: feisty
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: ah... ok. then run "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[18:37] <dhq> [ifr0g], will it work
[18:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille holds grudges
[18:38] <Dr_willis> dhq,  i dident even think my cable could go that fast.
[18:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: why do you say wow?
[18:38] <[ifr0g]> dhq, i guess
[18:38] <martoya> tysonsw: the correct command is "kdesu" not "kdesudo"
[18:38] <tysonsw> martoya: thanks
[18:38] <adlisyakir> PolitikerNEU : why u don't try kubunt 7.10
[18:38] <claydoh> Jucato: kubuntuforums is back up :)
[18:38] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, v3 thats  new in the market
[18:39] <Jucato> claydoh: yay thanks!!
[18:39] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: not im america
[18:39] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: now it is installed.. and you are my god know becurse you know a lot of things :P
[18:39] <dhq> Dr_willis, you must thank god you have that download speed ... here the max download speed we get is like 33lb/sec
[18:39]  * ardchoille drags out his ignore list *sigh*
[18:39] <[ifr0g]> oh
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: I can't be your god.. sorry.
[18:39] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: to bad :p
[18:39]  * AT0M1CB0MB3R thinks some people don't know how to forgive and forget
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: now run "kdesu restricted-manager
[18:39] <Dr_willis> dhq,  the most id ever seen befor on my connection was 400k/s - perhaps the isp has upgraded  for me.
[18:40] <Dr_willis> because i sawit was over 1000 and was like. 'that cant be rigth' then the download was done. :)
[18:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: so could v3 connect to my computer with bluetooth
[18:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ?
[18:40] <dhq> Dr_willis, lucky you aint i rite [GuS]
[18:40] <dhq> Dr_willis, lucky you aint i rite [ifr0g]
[18:40] <keoni86> Dr_willis: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/kubuntu-7.10-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:40] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, basically it should, with supported services in kbluetoothd
[18:41] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dhq: to type [ifr0g]'s name just type "if" then hit tab
[18:41] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: so now is the driver aktivated.. see you in a sec.. restart is law
[18:41] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: so i dont have to have bluetooth hardware
[18:41] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: you told it to enable it?
[18:41] <dhq> AT0M1CB0MB3R, i have to type [ and tab as [ifr0g]  has the brackets :P
[18:41] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim: yepp
[18:41] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, :P.. you need to have a bluetooth dougle
[18:41] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: ok... yeah... reboot
[18:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i dont have that :p
[18:42] <tyler_mauthe> Hello all
[18:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> :[
[18:42] <dhq> [ifr0g], well so we both could compile it togeather
[18:42] <ubunturos> !hi | tyler_mauthe
[18:42] <ubotu> tyler_mauthe: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:42] <dhq> [ifr0g], will be fun
[18:42] <the-erm> I'm having a weird problem.  I get sound, but no video on all my videos.   I used to be able to watch videos before I upgraded to gusty.
[18:42] <ubunturos> hey dhq
[18:42] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, Then sadly you wont be able to make the connection.. sorry :(
[18:42] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  it could be a lot of people are not seeding that torrent also. I dont see much need for the 'dvd'
[18:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: its ight
[18:42] <dhq> ubunturos, hey
[18:42] <damianos> hello
[18:42] <keoni86> whats even on it?
[18:43] <[ifr0g]> huh ?
[18:43] <keoni86> all the packages?
[18:43] <dhq> keoni86, i dont find anything on the dvd
[18:43] <Dragnslcr> AT0M1CB0MB3R- you can buy USB Bluetooth adapters fairly cheap
[18:43] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  ive never seen a good answer to whats on the dvd.. :) so i never use it
[18:43] <tyler_mauthe> During the upgrade from feisty to gutsy I decided to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu.. I re-formatted everything so it was a clean/fresh install, but I am regretting making the switch now, because I am having trouble with almost everything...
[18:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dragnslcr: thanks ill pick one up
[18:43] <keoni86> humm
[18:43] <ardchoille> keoni86: The dvd is only a combination of the alternate and desktop cd's
[18:43] <Dr_willis> thers only 133 seedrs for that  dvd version. I would say stick witht eh cd.
[18:43] <damianos> Is it possible to connect via bluetooth from pc to mobile phone ?
[18:43] <keoni86> and that takes up 4gigs?
[18:43] <damianos> in new kubuntu ?
[18:44] <dhq> keoni86, well i downloaded couple of the previous version on the dvd and i alwaays use net to install packages
[18:44] <Dragnslcr> damianos- if you have a bluetooth adapter on your computer, yes
[18:44] <ardchoille> keoni86: 2 cd's at 2gb each? ;)
[18:44] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  i was getting about 13k/s with that torrent also.
[18:44] <dhq> damianos, well ofcousre it is possible
[18:44] <tyler_mauthe> I can't play any movies in Kaffeine I guess would be the first issue I'd like to work on
[18:44] <Dr_willis> keoni86,  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/   shows the torrents and the # of seeders/leachers for each.
[18:45] <keoni86> lol, well i think ima just get the regular iso
[18:45] <rock_`> cant install 7.10 on my sata drive ?
[18:45] <Dr_willis> rock_`,  it isntalled on my sata drive fine.
[18:45] <dhq> [ifr0g], still waiting for your answer
[18:45] <rock_`> k
[18:45] <dhq> ubunturos, you called :P
[18:45] <Dr_willis> rock_`,  unless you are having some sort of issues it should work on it.
[18:45] <Road_kill> Hey, I upgraded via the console. However, the Adept Manager still has the "Upgrade Version" button. How do I get rid of it?
[18:46] <[ifr0g]> dhq, Not in the mood to compile..:D
[18:46] <tyler_mauthe> rock_`: fine on mine as well
[18:46] <rock_`> i have some kind of problem installed ok on ied drive
[18:46] <ubunturos> dhq: just wanted to say "Hi" :)
[18:46] <Dr_willis> Road_kill,  its a buglet.. ignore the button. :)
[18:46] <Dr_willis> the shiny jolly button!
[18:46] <rock_`> bbl
[18:46] <ardchoille> does the kdesu gui have a cache timeout feature? If so, how can I change that timeout?
[18:46] <dhq> [GuS], please
[18:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: yeah i have that button too
[18:47] <dhq> ubunturos, well nice of you to say hi to me so i will be nice to you and say hi to you
[18:47] <dhq> :p
[18:47] <Dr_willis> I recall some factoid that mentions the bug. basicially if your console sayss you are up to date then you are.
[18:47] <Road_kill> Ok good, at least we are not the only ones
[18:47] <ubunturos> dhq: hehe ...
[18:47] <tyler_mauthe> When I first installed Kubuntu my menu's were all corrupted as well, I had to take the Description field out of all the icons in Kmenu for them to display properly..
[18:47] <ubunturos> dhq: btw, are you going to FOSS.IN/2007 this year?
[18:47] <tyler_mauthe> Should I just try re-installing.. maybe my install is half-broken?
[18:48] <[ka]killer> bah im having some problems -_-
[18:48] <Dr_willis> tyler_mauthe,  try making a new user. see if the issue happens with them also.
[18:48] <[GuS]> dhq: ?
[18:48] <[ka]killer> mainly with video play back
[18:48] <don_> OK<  thread posted, with attached screenshot :)
[18:48] <tyler_mauthe> Dr_willis: ok.. brb
[18:48] <dhq> [GuS], buzzed you by mistake sorry
[18:49] <Dr_willis> off to edit a wiki page..
[18:49] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:49] <don_> post name is        wizzard7
[18:49] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:49] <[ka]killer> ok so whats going on is im using kaffeine as i have been since i switched to kubuntu on festy with no problems, after i upgraded to gusty kaffeine will not play avi files at all, and mkv files only give me sound
[18:49] <don_> oh, did nored leave?
[18:49] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: how do you edit a wiki page so that means anybody can edit a wiki page?
[18:49] <[ka]killer> both file types play in VLC but i dont like how VLC renders subtitles (cant make it better ive tried) and any other player the sound does not work
[18:50] <ardchoille> I"m having trouble with Kopete connecting to my MSN messenger account. Any help with that?
[18:50] <dhq> ubunturos, where in india will it be held
[18:50] <ubunturos> dhq: Bangalore, India - You aren't far away (are you?)
[18:50] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody know why pidgin doesnt have any noise when people im me
[18:50] <[ka]killer> can anyone give me a hand? ive tried askign on the kaffeine forum but no one has responded to that thread yet
[18:51] <dhq> ubunturos, i guess mangalore is not to far
[18:51] <tyler_mauthe> Dr_willis: I just created a new user and the menu's are screwed up
[18:51] <away> ubunturos: huh?
[18:51] <ubunturos> dhq: right
[18:51] <saizai_> Anyone know if there's an easy way to throttle CPU freq based on temp? Right now I use i8kctl+gkrellm to set fan speed, and cpufreq to set cpu depending on load, but since I still have major overheating issues I'd like to throttle by cputemp too...
[18:51] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: I am having the same issue, kaffeine will not work
[18:51] <ubunturos> away: your nick is a common word in english, you'll probably have to change it ;)
[18:51] <dhq> ubunturos, well 6 hours away... will you come
[18:51] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: I think it's related to the xine lib
[18:51] <[ka]killer> tyler_mauthe: have you tried anyother players?
[18:51] <ubunturos> dhq: I'm not likely to make it this year :(
[18:52] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: I have not tried vlc yet
[18:52] <[ka]killer> i tried reinstalling the xine lib and now everything else is f**ked up
[18:52] <dhq> ubunturos, your in india arent you
[18:52] <ubunturos> dhq: yes, in Mumbai
[18:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !ohmy [ka]killer
[18:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy [ka]killer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !ohmy | [ka]killer
[18:53] <ubotu> [ka]killer: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[18:53] <[ka]killer> tyler_mauthe: i tried the xine-ui player, which gives me video but no sound, kaffeine gives me a video codec error now -_- and VLC does a really crappy job rendering subs
[18:53] <dhq> ubunturos, i finish my exams by20 nov and i will be back in mumbai by 23 i guess
[18:53] <[ka]killer> ?
[18:53] <ubunturos> dhq: ah, would be glad to meet you, if we both can co-ordinate :)
[18:53] <tysonsw> anyone have a tip on how I could get my wireless to work? I have tried alot of things but wont connect.. even if I got the right password
[18:53] <dhq> ubunturos,  well i have to see if i can extend for foss
[18:53] <[ka]killer> hey im censoring my self more then normal >=O
[18:53] <ubunturos> DHq
[18:53] <Dr_willis> Yea. i edited the compiz wiki entry with a kubuntu specific bit.
[18:54] <Assid> sup
[18:54] <[ka]killer> im just getting really anoyed at this not working
[18:54] <dhq> ubunturos, yes
[18:54] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: OIC .. mine just crashes, the backtrace always implicates the xine libraries
[18:54] <ubunturos> dhq: FOSS.IN/2007 is from 4th to 8 Dec 2007
[18:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: help me with pidgin please :]
[18:54] <[ifr0g]> awee. :(
[18:54] <[ka]killer> yah, i tried reinstalling the xine lib (1.1.8, then 1.1.7)
[18:54] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  my use of pidgen is very limited. whats the issue?
[18:54] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Why would you use pidgin when you could use Kopete??
[18:54] <[ka]killer> and that just screwed it up worse
[18:54] <dhq> ubunturos, this is the official channel for kubuntu could we take this topic to #dhqifx
[18:54] <[ifr0g]> Why dont we have foss in kuwait :*(
[18:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> tyler_mauthe: cause its acting up closes on msn
[18:55] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: I think alot of people are having issues with kopete after upgrading 7.04 -> 7.10
[18:55] <tysonsw> anyone have a tip on how I could get my wireless to work? I have tried alot of things but wont connect.. even if I got the right password
[18:55] <tyler_mauthe> Hmm I haven't tried it yet come to think of it
[18:55] <wesley> compiz does not work i got a intel card
[18:55] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: personally I guess just recreating its config would be fine but thats just a though
[18:55] <h3sp4wn> t
[18:55] <[ka]killer> tysonsw: is knetworkmanager displaying your wireless connection?
[18:55] <tysonsw> no
[18:56] <Tm_T> h3sp4wn: issues? msg me about it and i'll look at it when i get home thanks
[18:56] <tyler_mauthe> The reason I switched to Kubuntu from Ubuntu was because KDE has better programs, namely Kopete and Amarok
[18:56] <[ka]killer> i know this problem i had it in 7.04
[18:56] <ThePianoGu1> is it normal that .deb installer for kde crashes in default gutsy?
[18:56] <wesley> where can i get beryl now?
[18:56] <ThePianoGu1> (eats all ram)
[18:56] <tysonsw> [ka]killer: ok.. how do I fix it?
[18:56] <[ka]killer> go to the manual configure disable your wireless and reenable it
[18:56] <[ka]killer> that should let it connect
[18:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: it doesnt have a noise when people im me or i im people
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> Ah yep
[18:57] <[ka]killer> beyond that the only solution i came up with (mind you it was an on-the-fly fix on vacation) was to write a script to disable/re-enable it for me
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> Kopete crashes on MSN for me too
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> great.
[18:57] <[ka]killer> have you tried pidgin?
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> Ubuntu here I come I guess..
[18:57] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, kopete sux as it uses alot of resources
[18:57] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: If I'm going to use Pidgin I might as well switch back to ubuntu :|
[18:57] <wesley> tyler you can fix that theres a bug fix out
[18:57] <[ka]killer> =/
[18:57] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, pidgin is good but you have to risk for its limited features
[18:58] <[ka]killer> kopote was giving me problems so i switched to pidgin
[18:58] <[ifr0g]> Any one here from kuwait ?
[18:58] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: I got plenty of resources, let it suck!
[18:58] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, and memory :P
[18:58] <wesley> tyler do you use 32 bit or 64?
[18:58] <tyler_mauthe> 32
[18:59] <[ifr0g]> :)
[18:59] <[ka]killer> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jonjim9096/errorkaffeine.png
[18:59] <wesley> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[18:59] <ThePianoGu1> does deb installer in kubuntu work for you guys?
[18:59] <wesley> tyler thats the bug fix for kopete
[18:59] <tyler_mauthe> wesley: thank you sir :)
[18:59] <wesley> yes the deb installer works
[18:59] <[ka]killer> thats the error i receive when i try to open any video file in kaffeine
[18:59] <tyler_mauthe> Now if only Kaffeine would play movies ..
[18:59] <ThePianoGu1> the gdebi installer I mean with kde frontend?
[18:59] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  odd. i know my stepdaughter was using it on Yahoo and it beeped at her last night when she got messages.  Check/explore all the settings is about all i can suggest.
[19:00] <wesley> tyler i had the same problem so i did google it a few days ago
[19:00] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, wats the problem with kaffiene
[19:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: i think im gonig to use kopet or whatever but whats the fix for the bug
[19:00] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: it crashes when I try to play a movie
[19:00] <[ka]killer> dhq: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/jonjim9096/errorkaffeine.png
[19:01] <ariane> hello. i just installed compiz fusion and the cube plugin isn't working. i found out it was because xgl wasn't "present" and i wanted to know how to enable it ? could someone give me a hand on this please ?
[19:01] <Dr_willis> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i didetn fix anything.  It beeps at her when she gets a message. could be uits trying to use a sound file that dosent exist.
[19:01] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: that's not my error.. my error is that kaffeine causes signal 11
[19:02] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, try reinstalling the xine engines
[19:02] <wesley> i wanna have beryl does anyone know how to get beryl
[19:02] <tysonsw> [ka]killer: After I hade activated it.. it deactivates itself
[19:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis: no im talking about the fix for the bug with kopet
[19:02] <[ka]killer> o_O
[19:02] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: how to do ?
[19:02] <Dr_willis> I dont use Kopete sorry. no idea about its bugs.
[19:02] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: did you try the bugfix that wesley suggested?
[19:02] <Dr_willis> I use xchat for my irc needs. i dont do yahoo or the other stuff. any more. :)
[19:03] <[ka]killer> im using konversation for now
[19:03] <[ka]killer> i used to use xchat
[19:03] <h3sp4wn> Why not just use bitlbee and irc
[19:03] <Dr_willis> Hanging out in the Yahooo Linux chat room  - is a whole different Zoo. :)
[19:03] <h3sp4wn> e.g irssi
[19:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> wheres the bug fix
[19:04] <dhq> Dr_willis, it sux
[19:04] <tyler_mauthe> do you have a 32bit or 64bit?
[19:04] <tysonsw> can anyone hlp me with my wireless?? it keps to deactivate itself O.o
[19:05] <h3sp4wn> AT0M1CB0MB3R: deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
[19:05] <[ka]killer> um... do youhave the right drivers installed?
[19:05] <h3sp4wn> AT0M1CB0MB3R: (Almost certainly the fix is there)
[19:05] <tysonsw> [ka]killer: were
[19:05] <noam> well, there's konversation
[19:05] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: I have an understanding of apt.. I just don't know the package names for the xine engines..
[19:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> no somebody was saying they had the fix like 2 days ago
[19:06]  * away is back.
[19:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> and they posted it like every half hour
[19:06] <tysonsw> [ka]killer: the problem is that I dodn't know the creator.. so its a little problem there.. its a acer laptop
[19:06] <[ka]killer> humm
[19:06] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: so you need to know the regexp's for apt-cache ?
[19:06] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, adept or synaptics would be a good place to start
[19:06] <noam> שש
[19:06] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: The aptitude regexp's are much easier to use
[19:07] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: aptitude search xine~nengine
[19:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i have 29 acheivments
[19:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> wow wrong box
[19:07] <tyler_mauthe> h3sp4wn: that returned nothing
[19:07] <Kr4t05> Guh... Is there a working fusion-icon package for Gutsy?
[19:08] <bartsan> greetings
[19:08] <[ka]killer> is it normal for adept to still show the version upgrade after ive done the upgrade?
[19:08] <bartsan> eartsomes
[19:08] <NickPresta> I've backed up /home, is there anything else I should backup that has important settings or anything similar? /etc?
[19:08] <King_Jere> My KDM screen is using what I think is called virtual screen size. i.e. move the  mouse to the edge of the screen to pan left and right. Are the settings for this in xorg.conf or elswhere?
[19:09] <lalalande> any download good manager for kubuntu?
[19:09] <_StefanS_> lalalande: kget ?
[19:09] <tyler_mauthe> dhq: thanks.. I was wondering what the Kubuntu equivalent of Synaptic was.. I'll be able to manage with this
[19:09] <NickPresta> lalalande, kget..
[19:09] <NickPresta> tyler_mauthe, Adept
[19:09] <_StefanS_> lalalande: I believe there's some java ones as well
[19:10] <h3sp4wn> tyler_mauthe: just get libxine1-plugins (or look at its dependancies) if the gnome one pulls in too much junk
[19:10] <dhq> tyler_mauthe, no problem
[19:10] <[ka]killer> i have libxine1-plugins installed and mine still does not work
[19:12] <kaminix> If I just aptitude remove the files I installed KDE 4 with I'll be okay, right?
[19:13] <[ka]killer> should be
[19:13] <h3sp4wn> [ka]killer: have you got the ffmpeg plugin (should be a dependancy of that)
[19:13] <[ka]killer> yes
[19:14] <[ka]killer> kaffeine-xine                                   install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1                                        install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1-console                                install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1-ffmpeg                                 install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1-gnome                                  install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxine1-plugins                                install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxinerama-dev                                 install
[19:14] <[ka]killer> libxinerama1                                    install
[19:14] <stdin> !paste | [ka]killer
[19:14] <ubotu> [ka]killer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:14] <ubunturos> !pastebin | [ka]killer:
[19:14] <ubotu> [ka]killer:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:14] <[ka]killer> ok...
[19:14] <tyler_mauthe> lol
[19:15] <[ka]killer> im new to this channel/network give me a break
[19:15] <tyler_mauthe> they just did ;)
[19:15] <[ka]killer> good point
[19:15] <Daisuke_Ido> you're still expected to read the topic
[19:15] <Daisuke_Ido> no matter though
[19:15] <[ka]killer> i didnt see the thing about large pastes
[19:15] <tyler_mauthe> I reinstalled everything that looked like it was to do with xine engine or xine plugins or whatever and Kaffeine still crashes, signal 11
[19:17] <noam_> anyone having troubles connecting google talk with kopete on gutsy?
[19:17] <stdin> nope, works here
[19:18] <noam_> argh
[19:18] <King_Jere> How do I change the screen resolution for kdm?
[19:18] <stdin> !resolution
[19:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:18] <owner_> I downloaded Kubuntu alternate version and did not see an upgrade option....I am on Kubuntu 7.04
[19:19] <kaminix> Why are there no i686 architecture for Ubuntu?
[19:19] <Zeelot> hey guys, I just installed kubuntu 7.10 on a machine and installed KDE4, but when I try starting a kde4 session its completely unusable, the start menu is blank basically the- -only thing that shows is something at the top left, any ideas?
[19:19] <kaminix> Zeelot: That's KDE 4 Beta 3 for you.
[19:19] <stdin> kaminix: because "i386" just means 32bit
[19:20] <kaminix> stdin: But a bunch of other distros use i686 architecture?
[19:20] <tyler_mauthe> The backtrace of the crash that Kaffeine causes says it's "from /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.7/xineplug_vo_out_xcbxv.so"
[19:20] <Dr_willis> I think they are missleadign terms. :)
[19:20] <Zeelot> kaminix yea I know, jus wondering if it was a simple problem before I gave up and waited for kde4 to actually come out...really wanted to try it
[19:20] <stdin> kaminix: the "i386" packages are actually i486 packages
[19:20] <owner_> How do I upgrade from the alternate version Kubuntu CD when there is no option there? I run Ubuntu and Kubuntu 7.04
[19:21] <Dr_willis> i686 means a Pent+ dosent it?
[19:21] <Jaearess> kaminix: I believe the core devs tested the speed gained from compiling for 686 compared with 386/486 and found practically no difference so they only go with 386 now.
[19:21] <stdin> kaminix: it's like that so the packages will run on most/all CPU's
[19:21] <tysonsw> anyone know a way to make my wireless stop deactivating itself?
[19:21] <kaminix> Zeelot: Try rightclicking the desktop and run some cool apps :)
[19:21] <kaminix> I see...
[19:21] <stdin> owner_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-93ac2e597b9e0c5ff78111d4fd2bbe34a35799c7
[19:22] <tyler_mauthe> Ooook.. No point barking up the Kaffeine tree I guess.. next problem..
[19:22] <Jaearess> Dr_willis: 686 means Pentium 3 & 4
[19:23] <Dr_willis> Jaearess, ok. :) i never could rember that.
[19:23] <NickPresta> is there anything I should backup besides, all of /home (my documents, etc), xorg.conf, menu.lst, and any other configuration files I wanted to keep?
[19:23] <h3sp4wn> Things can make a difference its just software being inefficient
[19:23] <owner_> Do you upgrade to 7.10 from bootup?
[19:23] <tyler_mauthe> My volume control on my keyboard was working up until about an hour ago, now it just allows me to pick between 0% and 11% and it's in a different GUI than before.. before it just flashed the Kmix dialogue as it changed.. now it's just a grey box in the centre of the screen that says Volume: and then a bar with the % in it
[19:23] <stdin> owner_: no, from the installed system
[19:23] <h3sp4wn> (e.g mplayer, imlib2, openssl) do make differences by being optimised or running 64 bit
[19:24] <owner_> oh-ok-I was trying to insert cd before turning it on
[19:24] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: VLC did work to play my movie.. but it's choppy
[19:24] <owner_> Will it ubgrade Ubunu as well?
[19:24] <[ka]killer> yah
[19:25] <tysonsw> anyone know a way to make my wireless stop deactivating itself?
[19:25] <[ka]killer> VLC plays mine also, but its choppy and teh subs are rendered verry poorly
[19:25] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: is there a green strip at the top as well?
[19:26] <[ka]killer> not on mine
[19:26] <tyler_mauthe> [ka]killer: probably just the specific movie I was playing caused that
[19:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> whats the fix for kopete
[19:27] <tysonsw> how do I zoom out in compiz?
[19:27] <dvayanu> hi
[19:27] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: do you have 32bit or 64bit?
[19:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> 32
[19:27] <dvayanu> i asked yesterday already and trying to re-ask, how can i make the fonts under gutsy look same way as they looked under edgy and feisty?
[19:28] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[19:28] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?
[19:28] <tyler_mauthe> AT0M1CB0MB3R: that got it working for me
[19:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> tyler_mauthe: thanks
[19:28] <tysonsw> how do I zoom out in compiz?
[19:28] <tyler_mauthe> tysonsw: should be the opposite of how you zoomed in
[19:28] <stdin> tysonsw: compiz help in #compiz-fusion
[19:29] <tyler_mauthe> and what he said :P
[19:29] <martin_> help please.. i installed a new theme and now my taskbar screwed up... it sits at the right side of the screen and looks totally irky.. if i move it to the bottom, all buttons just disappear.. what can i do?
[19:29] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  windows key/ mouse wheel i thought.  Check the compiz settigns manager tool and see what bindings it has setup
[19:29] <tyler_mauthe> Anyone help with volume control issue??
[19:30] <Dr_willis> compiz really needs a nice 'show me all the shortcut keys'  tool.
[19:33] <kousotu> what packages do I need for compiz-fusion?
[19:33] <redshadowhero> sooooo... the user of this computer has managed to lock it in 640 x 480 resolution... how would I fix this?
[19:34] <kousotu> what packages do I need for compiz-fusion?
[19:35] <stdin> !compiz
[19:35] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:36] <kousotu> ty
[19:37] <kousotu> um....
[19:37] <kaminix> Do I have to register my nick? :(
[19:37] <tyler_mauthe> Anyone help with volume control issue in Kubuntu 7.10???
[19:37] <kousotu> there's something missing in those instructions
[19:37] <[ka]killer> how about general xine screwed upedness
[19:37] <Admiral_Chicago> !register
[19:37] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[19:37] <Admiral_Chicago> kaminix: well you do /msg nickserv register YOURPASSWORD
[19:37] <kousotu> kaminix: /ns register <password> <email>
[19:37] <kaminix> What are these folders in the Amarok shared scriptfolder? common  ruby_debug  templates
[19:37] <kaminix> I know how I do it, but why? :p
[19:38] <Admiral_Chicago> oh, well you don't
[19:38] <Admiral_Chicago> its useful only if you plan to private message someone
[19:38] <kaminix> I was sent or invited to #ubuntu-unreg...
[19:39] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i don't know anything about that
[19:39] <Dr_willis> stdin,  i even edited that wiki page. :) with a Kubuntu note. Not sure what other notes to make on it for Kubuntu.
[19:39] <HomeRoey> HI!
[19:39] <[ka]killer> anyone else having problems with xine?
[19:39] <Roey> I have a Logitech MX-1000 mouse; I'm on Gutsy Gibbon.  WHy doesn't GG set up all the mouse buttons correctly?
[19:40] <Dr_willis> Roey,  theres way to much varity/quirks with those multibutton mice.
[19:40] <[ka]killer> i have a razor copper head, and no matter wht i try it refuses to map 2 of my buttons
[19:40] <noam_> define correctly
[19:40] <Dr_willis> I do recall some Mouse tools out that might help.
[19:40] <Roey> Dr_willis:  ah
[19:40] <BluesKaj> the quebec repos for canadian users should be dumped in favour one that can handle a bit of a load ...it's terribly slow and has been for months
[19:40] <Dr_willis> correctly for me = set Quake to use buytton 4 for grenades and 5 for medpacks.
[19:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:40] <stdin> Dr_willis: looks fine, I'd rather someone who uses it edit's it :p (rather than me)
[19:41] <Roey> Dr_willis:  well the basic thing is this:  now it seems that even my trusty .xbindkeysrc doesn't seem to work.
[19:41] <Roey> arg.
[19:41] <[ka]killer> atleast it still lets 5/6 control dpi on the fly
[19:41] <dvayanu> btw will GG recognize ipods?
[19:41] <Dr_willis> stdin,  i just recall that when enabling that flatfile option. the 'focus' options that give people issues - seem to 'get fixed' automaticially.  Not sure how detailed i should get on every little thing.
[19:41] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: the US one is slow too...
[19:42] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, 10 mins to install samba ?
[19:42] <Dr_willis> [ka]killer,  the dpi button on my mouse ONLY set the dpi. :) no way to change them since its in the hardware of the mouse.
[19:42] <[ka]killer> yah, with the software i can change it, but i like having them
[19:42] <[ka]killer> lets me jump from 800 to 2k =P
[19:42] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, thats too slow
[19:42] <Dr_willis> These new mice are getting WAY WAY too many 'things' on them.
[19:42] <[ka]killer> lol
[19:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: you sound very old saying that....
[19:43] <[ka]killer> i have 2 dpi buttons and 2 buttons on teh left i want to use for forward/backwards when browsing
[19:43] <gameforge> I'm trying to install Kubuntu Gutsy on an IBM Thinkpad T42, and it gets to about 60% and it shuts down (I hear a beep, switch to a console and see "System Going Down Now" message).  I see no error.  Any ideas?  Should I try the alternate CD?
[19:43] <[ka]killer> but i cant get them to bind correctly >_<
[19:43] <Admiral_Chicago> when I was a kid, we didn't even have mice, and forget a graphical system
[19:43] <Dr_willis> That new 'free wheeling' scroll wheel - thats out is 'ok' but left/right scrolling tilt wheel. is a bit annoying. :)
[19:43] <lee986321> !pastebin
[19:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:43] <[ka]killer> i <3 my copper head
[19:44]  * runlevelten wishes s african and english rugby fans good luck and watches :)
[19:44] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  i rember when a 'wheel on the mouse' was a fancy new thing that had to be set up manually under linux
[19:44] <[ka]killer> xD
[19:44] <kousotu> what packages are needed for Compiz-fusion (including setup packages)
[19:45] <Jucato> !compiz | kousotu
[19:45] <ubotu> kousotu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:45] <stdin> kousotu: the link ubotu gave has a list
[19:45] <kousotu> Jucato: I read that
[19:45] <Dr_willis> COmiz is the new faq #1 :)
[19:45] <kousotu> there's a package I know is missing for the instructions
[19:45] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:45] <Dr_willis> kousotu,  whats not clear about  it? been editing that page a little.
[19:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[19:45] <Dr_willis> !find compiz
[19:45] <ubotu> Found: compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (and 15 others)
[19:45] <Dr_willis> !find kde-compiz
[19:46] <ubotu> Package/file kde-compiz does not exist in gutsy
[19:46] <stdin> !info compiz-kde
[19:46] <ubotu> compiz-kde: OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 88 kB, installed size 228 kB
[19:46] <the-erm> Has anyone had problems playing video since they upgraded to gusty ?
[19:46] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:46] <Dr_willis> compiz-kde and emerald - i THINK are the only 2 needed.
[19:46] <kousotu> Dr_willis: it thatone package I got nabed about when I tried on T5
[19:46] <gameforge> What's the difference between the regular and "alternate" CD images?
[19:47] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:47] <steinerhippo> hi everybody, is it normal, that when i cut a file from my kubuntu desktop and place it in a other directory, that it still exists on the desktop? i have to delete it manually, but when i do the whole cut operation in dolphin, it works, i use kubuntu 7.10. thanx for every help
[19:47] <dvayanu> dr_willis: is reboot or x-server restart needed
[19:47] <the-erm> gameforge: if you insert the alt cd it should update
[19:47] <kousotu> gameforge: reg: shows graphical install interface - alt. does not
[19:47] <[ka]killer> ok besides my xine problems
[19:47] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  for compiz - you run the compiz --replace option to enable it.
[19:47] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:47] <the-erm> [ka]killer: what are your xine problems?  I'm having playing video in general problems
[19:47] <kousotu> Dr_willis: can I pm you?
[19:47] <[ka]killer> its only seeing my usb cd bruner
[19:47] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41380/ >>>>>>>>>>>will it work<<<<<<<<<<yes or know>>>>>>>>
[19:47] <Dr_willis> Not sure of the 'proper' way to get compiz to start at login however with kde.
[19:47] <[ka]killer> the-erm: thats the general problem
[19:47] <gameforge> so if the regular one gets to 60% copying files and shuts the computer down with no error (only a "going down now" msg on console) should I try the alternate image?
[19:48] <[ka]killer> as a mass storage device, not a cd burner
[19:48] <Dr_willis> kousotu,  you can try. :) i gotta run real soon to the post office.
[19:48] <lee986321> eh oops typo
[19:48] <the-erm> [ka]killer: so are you seeing videos with vertical lines?
[19:48] <dvayanu> aehm
[19:48] <[ka]killer> for me all programs that rely on xine are all screwed up and wont play anyhting
[19:48] <kousotu> Dr_willis: I'm sure it won't take all day ;P
[19:48] <dvayanu> i have no window-titles anymore :-)
[19:48] <[ka]killer> the-erm: no im not seeing video at all >_<
[19:48] <tysonsw> how do I activate " the universe component"???
[19:48] <the-erm> odd same here [ka]killer.
[19:48] <[ka]killer> its an xine problem
[19:48] <Dr_willis> !universe
[19:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:49] <yendor> I'm trying to configure my laptop to support dual screen with desktop extension...my laptop is widescreen while the second monitor is 4:3... but it won't let me...can you help me please?
[19:49] <steinerhippo> am i the only one who has this failure?
[19:49] <moofoo> hello, is there something like Treviño's repo for gutsy? (eg. with a recent avidemux 2.4 snapshot)
[19:49] <tysonsw> Dr_willis event not found
[19:49] <the-erm> yet in fiesty it worked fine.  Odd thing is I can play .flv videos fine in firefox via a flash player.
[19:49] <[ka]killer> same
[19:49] <[ka]killer> have you tried VLC?
[19:49] <Ashex> !xchat > me
[19:49] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  !universe is a BOT command.. not a command you put in the shell
[19:50] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41380/ will it work..preparing to restart system
[19:50] <Dr_willis> !universe | tysonsw
[19:50] <ubotu> tysonsw: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:50] <[ka]killer> for me VLC plays the videos but i dont like how it renders subtitles (and 90% of the things i have are subed)
[19:50] <Ashex> anyone ever had the issue of the channels not changing colors with activity in xchat?
[19:50] <dvayanu> de_willis: compiz obviously started, but my windows have no title anymore
[19:50] <lee986321> lol
[19:50] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  thats why emerald needs to be installed i belive
[19:50] <dvayanu> will it be active automatically next session? or can i select it as session?
[19:50] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  it will NOT get started automaticially.
[19:50] <dvayanu> emerald is already the newest version.
[19:50] <gameforge> Is there a way I can watch the console output of the Kubuntu setup (setting up from CD)?
[19:50] <dvayanu> dr_willis: i did
[19:50] <lee986321> fine restaarting
[19:51] <maverick> is there a way to increase the size of my ubuntu installation
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, I exaggerated ...it only took 9 mins :)
[19:51] <maverick> ?!
[19:51] <Dr_willis> I followed the docs at !compiz - not sure what else was needed.  let me check
[19:51] <Dr_willis> !compizx
[19:51] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[19:51] <keoni86> ew/quit
[19:51] <lee986321> i am guessing its ok...won't be any different then befo
[19:51] <dvayanu> i installed compiz, compiz-kde and emerald
[19:51] <lee986321> BLSOD coming up
[19:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:51] <[ka]killer> wakarimasen
[19:51] <lee986321> see ya all after  the reformat
[19:51] <kousotu> lee986321: blsod?
[19:51] <stdin> lee986321: why did you install restricted-manager and not restricted-manager-kde ?
[19:52] <steinerhippo> hi everybody, is it normal, that when i cut a file from my kubuntu desktop and place it in a other directory, that it still exists on the desktop? i have to delete it manually, but when i do the whole cut operation in dolphin, it works, i use kubuntu 7.10. thanx for every help
[19:52] <lee986321> stdin eh be cause no one said i neede to?
[19:52] <[ka]killer> i should have stayed on festy -_-
[19:52] <yendor> I need to setup my primary screen on 1280x800 and the second sreen to 2048x1024 with desktop extension...it wont let me..can you help me?
[19:52] <lee986321> and this was my first atempt
[19:53] <maverick> Is there a way to increase the size of my -already installed- ubuntu drive??
[19:53] <stdin> lee986321: restricted-manager is the gnome version, restricted-manager-kde is the kde one, and puts an entry in system settings
[19:53] <maverick> without having to reformat
[19:53] <maverick> like using Partiton magic for example
[19:53] <lee986321> kousotu "Black Screen O Death
[19:53] <gameforge> stenerhippo: I just tried it, and it worked for me... created a new file on my desktop, right click -> Cut, then went to my home folder in Konqueror and pasted it - it removed it from the desktop.  Using fresh upgraded Gutsy/7.10.
[19:53] <kousotu> ah...
[19:53] <lee986321> stdin ehrgh
[19:54] <WaltzingAlong> maverick: black screen of death is only true for those who know nothing about ctrl+alt+f1
[19:54] <lee986321> can it be fixed?
[19:54] <dithi_> maverick: yes
[19:54] <steinerhippo> gameforge: and if you use the standard file manager dolphin? like me?
[19:54] <moofoo> what are aptitude-create-state-bundle  aptitude-run-state-bundle  used for? they just annoy when tab-completing aptitude so i wonder if its safe to delete/rename them?!
[19:54] <lee986321> stdin can it be fixed?
[19:54] <dithi_> maverick: did you delete another partition? or do you want to shrink a partition too?
[19:54] <stdin> lee986321: remove restricted-manager then install restricted-manager-kde, simple
[19:54] <lee986321> I treid and treid to get help earlier buit...
[19:54] <gameforge> wait, so go the desktop in Dolphin and cut a file, then paste it somewhere else (in Dolphin)?
[19:54] <steinerhippo> no
[19:55] <lee986321> stdin ok how do i do that?
[19:55] <maverick> dithi_: my ubuntu partiton is only 8.2 GB and it got filled up i just want to increase the size to like 20 GB or so...
[19:55] <lee986321> everyhings been keyed in
[19:55] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[19:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:55] <steinerhippo> gameforge cut it on desktop without dolphin (strg+x) and then paste it in dolphin somewhere else
[19:55] <dithi_> maverick: there is another partition in the same hard drive?
[19:55] <stdin> lee986321: sudo apt-get remove restricted-manager && sudo apt-get install restricted-manager-kde     (if you're on gutsy)
[19:55] <livingdaylight> i was reading documentation on kubuntu.com it says i can install kubuntu-desktop from my gnome environment. but isn't a fresh or clean install from kubuntu cd different than adding kubuntu desktop from ubuntu??
[19:55] <livingdaylight> i have ubuntu on desktop and laptop but i'm considering kubuntu for laptop to see what kde looks like
[19:56] <livingdaylight> is Kubuntu basically an iferior os to Ubuntu? the Ubuntu homepage looks soooo much more profesisional than the kubuntu homepage
[19:56] <maverick> dithi_: how can i do it without risking my existing ubuntu installation ?!
[19:56] <tysonsw> Dr_willis I cant find a way to use it
[19:56] <gameforge> stenerhippo: ah ok, lemme try
[19:56] <livingdaylight> would somene like to answer any of my questions?
[19:56] <maverick> dithi_: yeah
[19:56] <livingdaylight> if i want to check out kde should i rather go to pclos?
[19:56] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  use what?  im chatting in other channels. :)
[19:56] <lee986321> yeah i am
[19:56] <livingdaylight> i was reading documentation on kubuntu.com it says i can install kubuntu-desktop from my gnome environment. but isn't a fresh or clean install from kubuntu cd different than adding kubuntu desktop from ubuntu??
[19:56] <maverick> dithi_: 3 other NTFS partitions
[19:56] <yendor> I need to setup my primary screen on 1280x800 and the second sreen to 2048x1024 with desktop extension...it wont let me..can you help me?
[19:56] <gameforge> stenerhippo: Ah hah!  Nope, it didn't remove it from the desktop.
[19:56] <dithi_> livingdaylight: ubuntu and kubuntu has the same base system, the only differences are the desktop and some apps for them
[19:57] <dvayanu> dr_willis: hmm.... killing x switched off the system... i found out i was missing the config package
[19:57] <livingdaylight> i have ubuntu on desktop and laptop but i'm considering kubuntu for laptop to see what kde looks like
[19:57] <livingdaylight> is Kubuntu basically an iferior os to Ubuntu? the Ubuntu homepage looks soooo much more profesisional than the kubuntu homepage
[19:57] <steinerhippo> gameforge: ok thanx, so i think it's a general bug -.-
[19:57] <tysonsw> Dr_willis use universe.. I am trying to use compiz.. but it wont work.. in the compiz channel it said that I needed to activate universe.. but I don't know how
[19:57] <steinerhippo> gameforge:  i hope the fix it
[19:57] <livingdaylight> dithi_, no... already i haer that kubuntu doesn't come with compiz by default like ubuntu does
[19:57] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  fire up the package manager, under the repiositories settings is a check box.
[19:57] <stdin> livingdaylight: that's because we put more effort in to the software than the website ;)
[19:58] <livingdaylight> stdin, but ubuntu manage to put effort into both?
[19:58] <gameforge> steinerhippo: indeed... that's annoying - Dolphin's kinda new, so I'm sure they'll fix it soon
[19:58] <Dr_willis> tysonsw,  should be some check boxc's some where.. they seem to always get moved around.
[19:58] <dithi_> livingdaylight: ubuntu already has everything, it's just that the cd contents don't include everything in the repository
[19:58] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: yes it is different just in that other software would not be installed
[19:58] <yendor> ok thanks for not noticing
[19:58] <lrw> I ran the version upgrade from within Adept Manager.... it downloaded all 1406 packages, but then crapped out. is there anyway to finish the upgrade without re-fetching all the packages?
[19:58] <dhq> livingdaylight, well ubuntu+kde=kubuntu so double the features
[19:58] <steinerhippo> gameforge: i also think so, it will part of kde4, they can't let it unfixed
[19:59] <livingdaylight> the question if i add kubuntu desktop it will mess up how my gnome ubuntu looks if i choose to remove it later
[19:59] <dithi_> livingdaylight: it's easy to install compiz fusion in kubuntu
[19:59] <stdin> livingdaylight: canonical designed ubuntu.com, they don't pay for kubuntu.com design
[19:59] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, you wany eye candy like windows , try compiz-fusion
[19:59] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: not necessarily
[19:59] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ stdin like this?
[19:59] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  gnome and kubuntu both will share the same compiz settings. thats somthing to watchout for.
[19:59] <dithi_> livingdaylight: each desktop saves its appearance options in a different place
[19:59] <bourgois> You no longer need to go back to gnome once you try KDE
[20:00] <stdin> lee986321: that's a link to pastebins main page...
[20:00] <livingdaylight> dithi_, i'm sure a long time ago i tried kubuntu desktop and then it messed up my gnome desktop when i removed it
[20:00] <dhq> boeroe, your rite gnome sux
[20:00] <livingdaylight> has that changed?
[20:00] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, what not necessarily?
[20:00] <lee986321> stdin oops corecting it
[20:00] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: not sure what happened before but sure you can run 'ubuntu-desktop' without 'kubuntu-desktop'
[20:00] <livingdaylight>  BluesKaj in ubuntu cd compiz comes with live cd by default, not in kubuntu?
[20:01] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41384/ is this betterreading lol stdin
[20:01] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, so you assure me 100% i can add kubuntu desktop from Ubuntu and kubuntu will come separate from ubuntu without messing or interfiring with it?
[20:01] <stdin> livingdaylight: install "kubuntu-desktop" with aptitude, the if you want to remove it, use aptitude to do it. aptitude keeps track of dependencies better, so when you remove a package with aptitude it'll remove the packages that were installed because of it
[20:02] <dithi_> maverick: you must resize or remove another partition in order to enlarge your ubuntu partition
[20:02] <livingdaylight> i just thought maybe better to do a clean install of kubuntu if i want to try it rather than going the add kubuntu desktop route
[20:02] <ctw> Hi!
[20:02] <lee986321> 12 oclock and it like its 4 pm...erg its getting dark out side
[20:02] <livingdaylight> stdin, thx, that is a good tip
[20:02] <ctw> Does anybody else here have problems with a dual monitor setup in Gutsy?
[20:02] <maverick> dithi_: i know... the question is using what tool?!!
[20:02] <Dr_willis> ctw,  thats a bit vague. :)
[20:02] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: for me it helps to think of them as ubuntuG ubuntuK and ubuntuX (with the others like EDU) but the ubuntu flagship is centered around GNOME. canonical supports kubuntu which is the same base but with kde as the front end
[20:02] <ctw> It worked fine in Feisty, but broke in Gutsy
[20:02] <livingdaylight> ctw, yes
[20:02] <dithi_> maverick: did you try qtparted or gparted?
[20:02] <lee986321> stdin eh I created a thing taht said correction made kinda like a book mark
[20:02] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, not that I'm aware...i wouldn't use it anyway
[20:02] <Dr_willis> ctw,  I have my nvidia cards set with twinview working decently well.
[20:03] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: whichever you installed latest will set the defaults i think so you will then see the 'kubuntu' name when booting
[20:03] <dithi_> ctw: which card do you use?
[20:03] <maverick> dithi_: no, but am using Kubuntu (sorry for not mentioning before) i guess i can use qparted
[20:03] <ardchoille> I cannot seem to find the package: libxine-extracodecs. Has the name changed?
[20:03] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, i do understand that, but because they come with different applications and libraries i found they get meshed together and not easy to disentangle after
[20:03] <dithi_> maverick: it's qtparted
[20:03] <ctw> dithi_: intel 915, i810 driver
[20:03] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, yes libxine1-ffmpeg or some thing like it
[20:03] <dithi_> hm.. no idea, I always used twinview with nvidia-settings
[20:04] <lee986321> if I need to I ca nload the 64 bit verson of Ubuntu and pratcie with that
[20:04] <[ka]killer> i have libxine1-ffmpeg installed and im still haivn gproblems
[20:04] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: use something like aptitude to install the others; yeah different as much as works with both is there already but for media player, for system settings, and for other such things gnome (ubuntu) has its set and kde (kubuntu) has its set
[20:04] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Ah, that package is there. Thank you.
[20:04] <mayeco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155032
[20:04] <mayeco> this is a security bug
[20:04] <mayeco> please someone reproduce that -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155032
[20:04] <lee986321> stdin is it all good for a restart/?
[20:04] <dhq> bluetooth
[20:05] <ctw> Dr_willis: Here's the more detailed bug-report I filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/155034
[20:05] <stdin> lee986321: that looks ok, go for it
[20:05] <lee986321> ok,
[20:05] <ardchoille> mayeco: That link requires login
[20:05] <lee986321> can't be any different  lol
[20:05] <luca> hi everyone
[20:05] <dvayanu> dr_willis: ok, now i have gnome style in my kde
[20:05] <lrw> nobody has an answer to my question?
[20:06] <[ka]killer> why would xine be screwed up?
[20:06] <redshadowhero> the person who owns this computer has trouble seeing the icons/text on the taskbar-thingee at the bottom of the screen. Any reccommendations on how to help him see them better?
[20:06] <luca> I succeeded in connecting a motorola razr v3 to ubuntu using moto4lin, but I want to download the short messages, and kmobiletools I can't successfully connect to it...suggestions?
[20:06] <Dr_willis> redshadowhero,  set all the fonts a lot larger?
[20:06] <posingaspopular> "service '/usr/share/applications/kde/kfmclient_dir.desktop' is malformatted" anyone see this before?
[20:06] <stdin> lrw: if it downloaded the packages, then it won't download them again
[20:06] <Dr_willis> redshadowhero,  theres also the high-contrast themes.
[20:07] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, if they are the same ubuntu(g) and ubuntu(k) why would one choose one over the other? after all one can run either application (qt or gtk ones) in either environment.
[20:07] <acee12345> Somehow i uninstalled  knetwork manager in kubuntu 7.10 and the my ehternet is not recognised either thus i have to way to connect to the Internet with kubuntu. I do have the live cd and was wandering if there is a way to fix it from that cd?
[20:07] <darkox> i have downloaded nvidia drivers (*.run file). how I can install it???
[20:07] <redshadowhero> Where might I find some of these font controls?
[20:07] <posingaspopular> acee12345: connect via command line
[20:07] <posingaspopular> ifconfig
[20:07] <posingaspopular> dhclient
[20:07] <Dr_willis> darkox,  you ahve tried the nvidia drivers in the repos?  Thats the best way to enable them
[20:07] <acee12345> posingaspopular: how
[20:08] <annma> hi people
[20:08] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: exactly. so just which way to interface with the core elements. some prefer gnome some prefer kde (some prefer xfce some prefer fluxbox some prefer to switch)
[20:08] <posingaspopular> my konsole isn't launching now, but you can connect to the internet via command line, it's mucho easy
[20:08] <mayeco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155032
[20:08] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: for file manager, web browser, audio player, video player, and so on
[20:08] <mayeco> reproduce that please
[20:09] <surface2> is there any libxine-extracodecs ?
[20:09] <Flare183> How do I fix this error: http://flare183.pastebin.ca/743759
[20:09] <surface2> can't find in my repo
[20:09] <ruth> hh
[20:09] <SanityInAnarchy> Ok, question: Where is the script which is run after the new packages are installed (in the version upgrade)?
[20:09] <tysonsw> Dr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!
[20:09] <stdin> mayeco: it's not accessible , "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page."
[20:09] <surface2> ,video codec
[20:09] <stdin> surface2: it's libxine1-ffmpeg now
[20:09] <sven_> Hi there, Im still trying to download the restricted driver for my wireless network card but whenever I select "Enable firmware", I get a new window called "Specify firmware location" but this window is frozen, i cant click anything in it, I cant even close it.. Has anybody experienced the same problem? also, there is a file specified there, I have already downloaded it manually, is there a way to manually install this firmware file??
[20:09] <mayeco> please login
[20:09] <surface2> stdin, oh thx
[20:09] <SanityInAnarchy> My upgrade died, and I had to finish on my own (with apt-get dist-upgrade), the "version upgrade" button is still there in Adept, although all the packages are done.
[20:09] <annma> stdin: mayeco claims that kdesu <kdeapp> and changing a setting makes root owns the user config file
[20:10] <annma> stdin: for example kdesu kate and change a setting
[20:10] <ruth> t
[20:10] <mayeco> the file should not exist
[20:10] <annma> then .kde/share/config/katerc will be owned by root
[20:10] <lrw> stdin: Adept doesn't seem to realize that there is a pending version upgrade
[20:10] <tysonsw> Dr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!
[20:10] <ruth> jk
[20:11] <mayeco> close the program, then delete the old file owned by your user
[20:11] <stdin> annma: checking
[20:11] <mayeco> example /.kde/share/config/yakuakerc then kdesu yakuake
[20:11] <mayeco> that the file now is owned by root
[20:11] <mayeco> if you run yakuake as normal user you can't save configs
[20:11] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, some say if you want kde environemtn dont' chose kubuntu, go with mepis or pclos... do you think that has changed and kubuntu have moved forward alot with this nrew release?
[20:12] <dvayanu> is there an easy way to downgrade back to feisty?
[20:12] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: well i think with each release kde becomes a bigger part of the ubuntu family (of course 'kubuntu' is the release with kde as the frontend)
[20:12] <acee12345>  posingaspopular: what are the commands?
[20:12] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: install from cd/dvd
[20:13] <sven_> mayeco, one comment about yakuake, its a great program, but it can cause severe X crashes when used in combination with compiz and alike..
[20:13] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: downgrade not reinstall
[20:13] <stdin> mayeco: I opened kate (kdesu kate) then changed a couple settings, the config file was still owned by my user
[20:13] <stdin> sven_: compiz is what causes the crash, not yakuake
[20:14] <tysonsw> Dr_willis now I have a problem with my adpet.. I cant get in it.. all I get is a error message: "The APT-databas could not be opened. This can happen if there ar baad setups of ATP or similar. Try to run apt-setup or apt-get update in a terminal and se if it helps to fix the problem"... Now for the other problem.. my computer says that I am not root?!?!
[20:14]  * BluesKaj wonders if there are any open source ati drivers that will work with google earth ...the proprietary and default gutsy driver sucks
[20:14] <jpwhiting> hi all, anyone here gotten gutsy nvidia drivers to load
[20:14] <jpwhiting> mine always says FATAL: Unable to load...
[20:14] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: yes
[20:14] <jpwhiting> dvayanu: any tips?
[20:14] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: no probs at all
[20:15] <jpwhiting> I think I hit this last time I tried a gutsy beta also
[20:15] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: dont know, i just installed and it worked :-)
[20:15] <dvayanu> already in feisty
[20:15] <masternoob> hello
[20:15] <mayeco> stdin: why here in 3 Gusty pc they change the ownership
[20:15] <jpwhiting> hmm, mine worked fine in feisty, but no luck in gutsy so far
[20:15] <mayeco> are you in Gusty Gibbon?
[20:15] <acee12345> does anyone know the commands to connect to the internet with kubuntu 7.10 with the command line?
[20:15] <jpwhiting> mayeco: ?? change the ownership of what?
[20:16] <mayeco> jpwhiting: the config file
[20:16] <jpwhiting> acee12345: ethernet, wireless? which?
[20:16] <mayeco> ~/.kde/share/config/_app_
[20:16] <stdin> mayeco: not sure, what exactly do you do to reproduce the bug? just open an app with kdesu and change a setting, or remove the config file then open the app?
[20:16] <acee12345> jpwhiting: wireless died after knetwork manager died so i guess ethernet
[20:16] <jpwhiting> acee12345: sudo ifup eth0
[20:16] <annma> stdin: remove the config file, kdesu the app
[20:16] <sven_> stdin, actually, I talked about this with the guys from yakuake, they told me that yakuake does some weird things too.. in either case, its the combination that does the trick, and whoever causes these crashes, it crashes, thats what counts :)
[20:17] <mayeco> in Gusty
[20:17] <annma> this is not about yakuake
[20:17] <jpwhiting> annma: :) what are you doing here?
[20:17] <annma> any kde app will do
[20:17] <mayeco> yes is about kdesu
[20:17] <annma> jpwhiting: checking a claim
[20:17] <jpwhiting> thought you were a mandriva fan
[20:17] <jpwhiting> ah
[20:17] <annma> tssss
[20:17] <acee12345> jpwhiting: alright letme hibernate windows and ill try that thank you
[20:17] <jpwhiting> acee12345: no problem
[20:18] <annma> known gutsy bug mayeco
[20:18] <stdin> annma, mayeco: if I remove the config file then kdesu app, then I do see that happening
[20:18] <thorns> Does anyone know how to change the system wide Qt4 style?
[20:18] <annma> fuck!!!
[20:19] <stdin> !language
[20:19] <LjL> !language
[20:19] <annma> I'll never use KUbuntu
[20:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[20:19] <mayeco> what annma
[20:19] <annma> weeew
[20:19] <stdin> annma: no need for that language in here
[20:19] <annma> this is so big
[20:19] <mayeco> YES!
[20:19] <annma> I cannot believe it
[20:19] <mayeco> is HUGE!
[20:19] <WaltzingAlong> google earth sucks? BluesKaj how about the solarwind or whatever it is called from nasa?
[20:19]  * mayeco i'm not an idiot!
[20:19] <annma> mayeco: SORRY
[20:19] <annma> I apologize
[20:19] <Saied> thorns: qt4 has a config tool but i dont know affects KDE theme style
[20:19] <mayeco> xD!!! np
[20:19] <annma> I cannot believe it
[20:20] <mayeco> mee to
[20:20] <[ka]killer> bah
[20:20] <[ka]killer> why is xine still not working right
[20:20] <LjL> are you sure you've used kdesudo and not sudo?
[20:20] <annma> it's a showstoppper
[20:20] <mayeco> LjL sudo or kdesu
[20:20] <mayeco> happed
[20:20] <mayeco> happend
[20:20] <annma> LjL: I asked in #kubuntu-devel
[20:20] <annma> they confirmed!
[20:21] <mayeco> AHHHHHHHHHH!
[20:21] <stdin> it's not a showstopper, it'd only happen when you run the app as root first
[20:21] <[ka]killer> i just want xine to work T_T
[20:21] <annma> stdin: !!!
[20:21] <annma> come on
[20:22] <annma> so many first comers are root
[20:22] <thorns> Saied: I'm just looking for a config tool, cli or gui, so I can easily set my user wide and/or system wide qt4 style
[20:22] <[ka]killer> anyone besides me having video playback problems with xine & kaffeine?
[20:22] <thorns> Saied: Do you know which tool that is?
[20:22] <jpwhiting> thorns: kcmshell colors, then check the apply kde colors to non kde apps
[20:23] <jpwhiting> that should set the gtk and qt styles to the same color scheme
[20:23] <jpwhiting> I think
[20:23] <Saied> thorns: qtconfig-qt4
[20:23] <stdin> annma: it's not as huge as you think, unless the very first time then run the app it's run with kdesu then it won't happen
[20:23] <stdin> annma: and most new comers don't even know about kdesu
[20:24] <annma> anyway I'll be in Boston next week, I'll talk about it stdin
[20:24] <stdin> it's an important bug, but not as big as you're making ti
[20:24] <stdin> *it
[20:24] <annma> it makes KDE bad
[20:24] <Saied> thorns: i think it needs a new theme style for current KDE and KDE4 even Gnome and other DEs.
[20:24] <annma> it's quite important to discuss
[20:25] <Saied> thorns: my current qt4 apps are a few ugly
[20:25] <dvayanu> are you talking about kdesu?
[20:25] <dvayanu> that renaming sucks :-)
[20:25] <darkox> How to save text file edited in Kate using terminal?
[20:26] <jpwhiting> stdin: most apps are run with kdesu actualy
[20:26] <jpwhiting> most admin apps anyway
[20:26] <dvayanu> kdesu isnt there anymore
[20:26] <NightBird> darkox: what?
[20:26] <dvayanu> at least it keeps telling me that
[20:26] <stdin> jpwhiting: the admin apps aren't going to be ran as the normal user, so the ownership of the files doesn't matter
[20:27] <jpwhiting> stdin: if you run adept_manager from the k-menu it runs it with kdesu
[20:27] <stdin> jpwhiting: yes, so the ownership doesn't matter, as it's always run with kdesu
[20:27] <annma> jpwhiting: avoid kdesu
[20:27] <darkox> I edited text, but don't have access to save it. I want to try save it as root... But i don't know cammand
[20:27] <jpwhiting> hmm, ok
[20:28] <BluesKaj> WaltzingAlong, I wasn't being critcal of Google Earth , i acyaully like it ...it's the lack of support for linux from both google and ati that sucks :P
[20:28] <dvayanu> annma: and use what instead? login as root?
[20:28] <dvayanu> sudo
[20:28] <jpwhiting> dvayanu: ever heard of su?
[20:28] <dvayanu> that would be running as root
[20:28] <jpwhiting> ;-)
[20:28] <[ka]killer> bah
[20:29] <jpwhiting> only for the shell you run it in
[20:29] <[ka]killer> i guess i'll just use mplayer till xine gets fixed up
[20:29] <dvayanu> that would mean you have a root password
[20:29] <jpwhiting> dvayanu: of course
[20:29] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: my boxes doesnt
[20:29] <jpwhiting> first thing I do after any kubuntu install is sudo passwd ;-)
[20:29] <gameforge> Is there a way I can watch the console output of the Kubuntu setup (setting up from CD)?
[20:30] <_michael> Hello I was wondering if I could allow my kpf applet to be accessed via the internet and not just LAN Any ideas?
[20:30] <dvayanu> jpwhiting: first thing i do is go to google to search and here to complain that my fonts are all broken
[20:30] <Judgen> howdy, Is there an hfs+ filesystem driver with +rwx support for linux?
[20:30] <dvayanu> crppling my eyes, they start to bleed actually
[20:30] <jpwhiting> :)
[20:31] <cristian> Hola??
[20:32] <stdin> !es
[20:32] <MLG_GooseMann> Is anybody using the KDE 4 Beta 3?
[20:32] <cristian> Alguien me podria ayudar???
[20:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[20:33] <MLG_GooseMann> Is anybody using KDE 4 Beta 3?
[20:33] <the-erm> [ka]killer: I'm having problems with video playback as well :)
[20:33] <dvayanu> http://www.anotheria.net/broken-fonts.png
[20:33] <dvayanu> can someone point me into right direction? how to fix it?
[20:33] <[ka]killer> im just avoindign xine til its fixed
[20:34] <the-erm> [ka]killer: it's not just xine, it's kaffine, as well as mplayer, and totem craps out as well.  the ONLY way I can play video is to convert it to .flv and then watch it in the browser and that ain't fun.
[20:35] <MLG_GooseMann> Try VLC Media Player?
[20:35] <paolopoz12> I have problems with dist-upgrade. Can please someone help me?
[20:35] <the-erm> MLG_GooseMann: ok I'll try that.
[20:35] <[ka]killer> mplayer is working for me
[20:35] <[ka]killer> as does VLC
[20:35] <[ka]killer> but vlc and mplayer render subtitles really poorly
[20:36] <fusspawn> seeing as this channel isnt flying past at an amazing rate of nots and i can keep up with it, Is there a Wine help channel or some one with Wine/Ubuntu experience availiable for a quick chat ?
[20:36] <the-erm> paolopoz12: it froze on me as well, I had to start with a fresh install.
[20:36] <[ka]killer> whats your problem wwiht wine?
[20:37] <paolopoz12> arhhg!
[20:37] <Kr4t05> fusspawn: #winehq
[20:37] <MLG_GooseMann> paolopoz12: What's wrong with it?
[20:37] <fusspawn> [ka]Killer , Wines folder refuses to let me have more than 1.1 gig free space even tho the partition has the space that folder seems perma stuck at 1.1 gig
[20:37] <paolopoz12> MLG: it's just a looong work. that's all
[20:37] <fusspawn> Thanks Kr4t05
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> Yeah, I started mine two hours ago.
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> 54% right now.
[20:38] <sven_> Could anybody help me with installing a restricted driver?
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> Last night it froze up.
[20:38] <paolopoz12> Do I lose data with this process?
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> I'm not too sure, but I don't think so.
[20:38] <MLG_GooseMann> Like, files saved to your hard drive?
[20:38] <gameforge> help - trying to install kubuntu gutsy on my thinkpad/t42, copying files makes it to 60% and computer shuts down (no error, just a beep and "Going down now" message on console) - any ideas?  already asked in #kubuntu
[20:39] <paolopoz12> yes.
[20:39] <gameforge> err, #ubuntu rather
[20:39] <paolopoz12> mails, files...
[20:39] <gameforge> is there a way to watch the console output of the install?
[20:39] <MLG_GooseMann> gameforge: Are you installing from CD?
[20:39] <gameforge> yes
[20:40] <gameforge> installing from the desktop ISO
[20:40] <the-erm> [ka]killer: nope vlc does the same thing as mplayer vertical lines.
[20:40] <Eyal_D> Hi all .. I'm new and I need a bit help
[20:40] <Eyal_D> how can I use the 3d Desktop? I enabled visual effects afocurse ..
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> gameforge: overheating?
[20:41] <Eyal_D> but I don't know how to use this damn 3d ball =\
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> Eyal_D: GNOME?
[20:41] <MLG_GooseMann> gameforge: do you have a previous version of kubuntu installed?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, got GE installed and running ?
[20:41] <Eyal_D> what is ge?
[20:41] <gameforge> nosrednaekim: that's what I thought, but it doesn't get any hotter than usual
[20:41] <Eyal_D> This is the new version .. 7. .. ?
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: I don't have the bandwidth for that!
[20:41] <BluesKaj> google earth
[20:41] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: I had feisty, but I wiped it, installing fresh
[20:41] <Eyal_D> GNOME sorry ?
[20:41] <MLG_GooseMann> Hm.
[20:41] <Eyal_D> what is GNOME my friend?
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> Eyal_D: are you on Ubuntu or kubuntu?
[20:42] <MLG_GooseMann> Perhaps upgrading from feisty would work?
[20:42] <Eyal_D> Ubnutu ^^
[20:42] <Eyal_D> Ubnutu
[20:42] <MLG_GooseMann> I would either say that or try redownloading the iso.
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> Eyal_D: channel for that is over at #ubuntu
[20:42] <Eyal_D> Ty
[20:42] <Eyal_D> Sorry for bothering ..
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> Eyal_D: but trl ctrl+alt+arrow keys
[20:42]  * BluesKaj wonders about installing gnome 
[20:42] <Eyal_D> I tried .. no 3d .. normal movment ..
[20:43]  * nosrednaekim kickes BluesKaj for even thinking about it
[20:43] <Eyal_D> Anyhow I will try the other channel .. thanks
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> k
[20:43] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: I already wiped it...
[20:43] <BluesKaj> :)
[20:43] <MLG_GooseMann> Well, I'd try redownloading the iso.
[20:43] <MLG_GooseMann> That might be the problem.
[20:44] <dvayanu> ok, i probably found it
[20:44] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: Yeah I came across that problems on the forums and I checked it, it should be OK.  Do you think trying the alternate ISO is worth a shot?
[20:44] <dvayanu> solution for gnome: Go to System->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts and change the rendering method to "Best contrast".
[20:44] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: Also, is there a way to watch the installer's console output?
[20:45] <dvayanu> has kde the same option hiding somewhere?
[20:45] <pikachuumx_> how can i know if my sistem has the driver of my wifi card?
[20:45] <MLG_GooseMann> I don't know about the console input, but it might've been a problem just downloading it.
[20:45] <MLG_GooseMann> I myself haven't tried the alternate iso thus far, so I'm not sure how that'll pan out.
[20:46] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: kmenu/system settings/appearance/fonts/use anti aliasing
[20:46] <rand_acs> pikachuumx_: dmesg
[20:46] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?
[20:46] <sven_> Could anybody help me with installing a restricted driver?
[20:46] <rand_acs> pikachuumx_: in a terminal, then you can also do something like dmesg | grep card_make
[20:46] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: otherwise turn on 'auto hinting' in ~/.fonts.conf
[20:47] <dvayanu> ah
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> sven_: which one?
[20:47] <rand_acs> pikachuumx_: card_make being the actually card, like intel or whatever
[20:47] <gameforge> MLG_GooseMann: right, well I'll try redownloading the desktop one first - thanks for your advice :)
[20:47] <MLG_GooseMann> No problem.
[20:47] <MLG_GooseMann> Hope it helps.
[20:47] <gameforge> Me too...
[20:48] <sven_> nosrednaekim, wireless network card driver 43xx.. when I select "enable firmware" a new window pops up, and it hangs.. for hours.. Ive tried it like a 100 times already because supposedly the kubuntu site was busy these days but.. no result.. the window hangs immediately
[20:48] <Xera> http://pastebin.com/m46174c79
[20:48] <dvayanu> match target font : edit mode="assign or what?
[20:48] <Xera> Why do I need so much crap to install Firefox?
[20:48] <MLG_GooseMann> What crap Xera?
[20:48] <Xera> in 7.04 I didn't, in 7.10 I appear to need a load of other stuff
[20:48] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: if you do not want gtk you can just grab the static one from getfirefox.com/
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> sven_: hmmm I think that is to select a firmware file
[20:48] <sven_> nosrednaekim, In the window that shows up (and that looks frozen) I can select a location for the driver.. local or on the internet.. but I cant type anything, I cant press buttons, I cant even close that window, its completely frozen
[20:48] <sven_> nosrednaekim, it is
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> sven_: i'm not sure if it goes out to the internet
[20:49] <Xera> WaltzingAlong: getfirefox.com gives me an archive
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> sven_: ah.. ok
[20:49] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: yes, which you extract with tar xvfz firefox.tar.fz
[20:49] <pikachuumx_> I ha ve a list of pc informatio and my wifi appeear in here but I  don't know how to connect with it I connected with my wired card
[20:49] <WaltzingAlong> gz
[20:49] <sven_> nosrednaekim, I was told that it did but.. even so, I would have to press OK or something first? in anycase, the window is dead..
[20:49] <Xera> WaltzingAlong: I'd rather have it installed properly like it used to
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> hmm yeah... is there an OK button?
[20:50] <wesley> can someone help me i am trying to get kde4 working
[20:50] <sven_> nosrednaekim, any idea on how I can bypass this? I already downloaded the file that appeared in that window, can I install this file manually maybe?
[20:50]  * AmyRose wonders why strangers from this channel keep /msging her...
[20:50] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: something called ubuntuzilla or something like that?
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> sven_: I'm sure you can. there is probably a tutorial for it on the ubuntu forums
[20:51] <BluesKaj> wesley, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[20:51] <wesley> yes i did all of it and theres no session
[20:51] <h3sp4wn> AmyRose: You are surprised ? That is why most females use names that could be attributed to either
[20:51] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: But I tried that too and it crashes on me
[20:51] <StarSys> Hello. I have a problem with installing kubuntu... When the live cd starts, i only get a blank screen (When changing from textmode to graphical).. When I try the alternate cd, i can install, but when I reboot, I get the same blank screen again... Can't change to another console eigher.. Can anyone help? :)
[20:51] <Xera> WaltzingAlong: huh? in 7.04 I just did sudo aptitude install firefox and it installed, didn't need anything else
[20:51] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: when..
[20:51] <acee12345> jpwhiting: my ethernet apears to be dead in both windows and linux
[20:52] <acee12345> jpwhiting: so that command didnt do anything
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> StarSys: can you boot recovery mode?
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: when/where/how does it fail?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> wesley, are you running kde4 now ?
[20:52] <cristian> Hello, I need help, I from Chile. Anybody speak Spanish?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> !es
[20:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[20:52] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: It gets through the splash screen and then X dies
[20:53] <jpwhiting> acee12345: oh :(
[20:53] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: you can do that again with kubuntu 7.10
[20:53] <wesley> no i did install that what you needed and copy  kde4.desktop 2 xsessions ans put export lines at startkde at kde4/bin
[20:53] <acee12345> jpwhiting: is there a way to restore the program from the cd?
[20:54] <jpwhiting> acee12345: restore what program?
[20:54] <acee12345> jpwhiting: knetwork manager
[20:54] <Xera> WaltzingAlong: how then? if I try and install just firefox it wants to download a load of other stuff that it didn't in 7.04
[20:54] <acee12345> so that i can use my proset wirless
[20:54] <jpwhiting> acee12345: you deleted it?
[20:55] <acee12345> jpwhiting: somehow
[20:55] <surface2> for gnome, they have gnome-open to open app with default app, what kde have?
[20:56] <jpwhiting> acee12345: do you have knetworkmanager in /usr/bin anymore?
[20:56] <StarSys> nosrednaekim: Hehe, I didn't of that :) I got it working now :) Thanks!
[20:56] <acee12345> jpwhiting:ii dont know let me bring up irc on an alternate comp and ill hibernate again
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> StarSys: thats what its there for ;)
[20:57] <StarSys> :)
[20:59] <Xera> Heh nevermind, it seems I was trying to install a "joke" package from the universe repo
[21:01] <Carnage> i'm having trouble with my wireless card, it was working and now... its not.
[21:01] <WaltzingAlong> Xera: same way as before. what it needs it grabs. may be because packages changed. split bigger ones. maybe you had already installed gtk stuff last time?
[21:01] <sven_> nosrednaekim, I looked on the ubuntu forums, but I can only find tuturials for installing wireless with ndiswrappers... this restricted driver that kubuntu wants to install on my laptop (but fails to do so) is also with ndis? because if its not, I prefer to use the no-ndiswrapper
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> sven_: hmmm I don't know..
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> it may be
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> sven_: just a sec.. let me take a look
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> sven_: nope... its using a native driver
[21:04] <Carnage> not really sure what info you need to diagnose the prob
[21:04] <sven_> nosrednaekim, mmm, so it would be better to install that one instead of the ndiswrapper one, correct?...
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> sven_: I don't know...if you can get it working ;)
[21:04] <kmart> Good afternoon, folks.  Hope all is well
[21:05] <sven_> nosrednaekim, any reason why the restricted driver program may hang?
[21:05] <kmart> QUestion for the experts - can Adept be told to download and install in parallel
[21:05] <kmart> rather than doing it serially?
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> sven_: no...
[21:06] <kmart> I'm updating the systems and it seems to be odd that updates can;t be installing while others download
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> kmart: here? haha this is the SUPPORT channel my friend ;)
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> kmart: that probably wouldn't be good.
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> because of dependencies
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> and you'd install them far faster than you could DL
[21:07] <Carnage> no, it could totally trash your system
[21:07] <roadfish> and I have the opposite question. can I do the download (over dial up) and keep running my other apps _until_ the package installation takes place?
[21:07] <kmart> nosredmaekim - understood, but it does seem it should know wheter a dependency is need and wait for it
[21:07] <frank_> roadfish: you can keep running applications even when packagaes are being installed
[21:07] <kmart> maybe I dislike waiting too much
[21:07] <Azzco> I really need some help finding out something on my system. I can't boot from LiveCDs and I'm starting to become desperate
[21:08] <kmart> frank_  understood
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> kmart: there probably wouldn't bevery much of a speed increase, but simpler and reliable to DL them all first
[21:08] <roadfish> frank_: ok thanks. but I thought I saw a message that said I should shut down my apps?
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> kmart: that way you aren't left with half-finished installs/upgrades and other such things
[21:09] <frank_> roadfish: are you upgrading to gutsy?
[21:09] <vbgunz> kubuntu doesn't have an official forum does it?
[21:09] <kmart> True
[21:09] <roadfish> right, on this page it said to close my apps ... http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/snapshot10.png
[21:09] <roadfish> frank_: yes. feisty to gutsy
[21:09] <kmart> just a thought while I was watching grass grow :-)
[21:09] <Carnage> ok; so can someone tell me what information i need to give them to get some help fixing my previously working wireless?
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: yes it does
[21:10] <acee12346> jpwhiting: what file was that again?
[21:10] <frank_> roadfish: ah. well you can do what it says. but using apps is fine when downloading
[21:10] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: I am looking, one moment
[21:10] <tharun> Hi,
[21:10] <tharun> I am getting this error after launching the version upgrade tool(from gutsy beta) though Adept. It downloads a bunch of files, and then shows the error:
[21:10] <tharun> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:10] <tharun> What do I do?
[21:10] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: got it
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> kmart: heh :)
[21:10] <roadfish> frank_: ok, thanks. so isn't a huge problem ... besides, the only app that I use is emacs.
[21:10] <Carnage> the card did appear in knetworkmanager as eth1, its no longer there however the ethernet card is still in there
[21:11] <frank_> roadfish: frankly though the kubuntu upgrader crashed on me while installing. It's not very stable
[21:11] <roadfish> :-(
[21:11] <stian> anny 1 know a good place 2 download songs??
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> sven_: I mean... of course there is a reason... but IDK what is it ;)
[21:11] <roadfish> frank_: so are you suggesting a fresh install?
[21:12] <roadfish> stian: Apple iTunes?
[21:12] <jpwhiting> acee12346: /usr/bin/knetworkmanager
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> stian: amazon
[21:12] <darkox> how to install nvidia drivers? (kubuntu)
[21:12] <frank_> roadfish: well if you know how to resume the upgrade in the event that the upgrader crashes you can try it but you're probably safer with a fresh install
[21:13]  * NDP-Kubuntu finally sees the "Version Upgrade" in his Adept manager and decides to update to Kubuntu 7.10
[21:13] <tharun> Anyone know how to fix this error?: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:13] <roadfish> frank_: ok, thanks for the warning.
[21:14] <acee12346> jpwhiting: odd ethernet works on non-ddwrt router
[21:14] <combinio> why libxine-main1 AND libxine-extracodecs can't be installed under Gutsy ??
[21:14] <jpwhiting> I don't know what non-ddwrt means...
[21:14] <tharun> This error comes up when I hit Version Upgrade... gutsy beta to  file
[21:15] <acee12346> jpwhiting: dd-wrt is a firmware replacement that expands options on some routers
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> combinio: "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[21:16] <combinio> nosrednaekim: thanks a lot :))
[21:16] <acee12346> jpwhiting: i did apt-get and it installed
[21:17] <acee12346> jpwhiting: now how do i get ittoshow the wirelexx networks again?
[21:18] <acee12346> jpwhiting: sorry about spacing the space bar is broken on the comp
[21:19] <vbgunz> kopete crashes on every sign in, isn't there a fix for this somewhere?
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: MSN?
[21:19] <vbgunz> not sure
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> do you use MSN with it?
[21:19] <vbgunz> I am trying to sign in and it just segfaults
[21:19] <jpwhiting> acee12346: dunno, does it put a systray icon on the systray when you run it?
[21:19] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: yes
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> !bug 153500
[21:20] <acee12346> jpwhiting: yes
[21:20] <acee12346> do i needto reinstall restiricted drivers for the proset?if sohow?
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: its a known issue, and yes there is a fix
[21:21] <jpwhiting> acee12346: adept?
[21:21] <jpwhiting> or aptitude
[21:21] <gambix> hi to all
[21:21] <jpwhiting> or apt-get something
[21:21]  * dithi_ looks for the fix
[21:21] <dithi_> here it is! http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[21:21] <gambix> is the kde4 beta3 is usable ?
[21:21] <vbgunz> I know, I read about it but didn't use kopete. then I had to install fresh and figured I'll try kopete again... now I need that fix
[21:22] <acee12346> jpwhiting: doenst show anything butiremember it using them before
[21:22] <gambix> i can't find the startkde file ?
[21:22] <ardchoille> After using the Restricted Manager to successfully install nvidia drivers, I now have no tty1-6 (ctrl+alt+f(1-6)). How do I get my tty's back?
[21:23] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: got it
[21:23] <clyrrad> Is there a way to load your kubuntu desktop session remotely over SSH?  IE: can you some how make KDE login remotely over SSH, I would like to have the sesson start so I can connect to it with X11VNC
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> thanks dithi_
[21:23] <dithi_> :D
[21:24] <dithi_> I think it was a mistake to include kde 3.5.8 just before the release of 7.10
[21:24] <dithi_> that package algo fixes an error I had with konqueror 3.5.8
[21:24] <dithi_> actually two errors
[21:24] <acee1234> im still here
[21:25] <dithi_> clyrrad: you can configure kde remote desktop to allow guest connections without confirmation, or you can use a xvnc server
[21:26] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Why doesn't Gutsy have emerald-themes?
[21:26] <roadfish> any opinion on using the "alternate CD/DVD" for upgrading instead of "Adept Manager"? likely to be more or less reliable ... or not really any difference?
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack | dithi_
[21:27] <ubotu> dithi_: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: liscencing issues
[21:27] <vbgunz> now basket needs a fix... it crashes on every startup
[21:27] <dithi_> vbgunz: it works for me
[21:27] <vbgunz> maybe this patch for kopete fixes it, heh, could only hope
[21:27] <Kr4t05> Oh...
[21:27] <dithi_> what does it say in terminal?
[21:27] <ardchoille> vbgunz: Basket works for me, but I can't get it into kontact like I had it in Feisty
[21:28] <dithi_> vbgunz: I'm not sure i've tried without the patch... probably it works for you
[21:28] <clyrrad> dithi_: is xvnc server avail from apt-get?  I dont see it
[21:28] <acee1234> does anyone know why knetwork manager shows"no active device" and will not display available networks on kubuntu 7.10 prosetwireless
[21:28] <vbgunz> everytime I launch basket, it closes and a kmail messages pops up to be sent
[21:29] <vbgunz> I'll try again after the patch but the patch is giving me problems too at the moment :/
[21:29] <dithi_> clyrrad: vncserver
[21:30] <clyrrad> dithi_: I see vnc4server
[21:30] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: Thats strange, because it's still on the packages server.
[21:30] <dithi_> clyrrad: afaik, vncserver starts a new x11 session, while x11vnc uses an existing x server
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: hmm maybe I heard wrong...wouldn't be the first time ;)
[21:30] <ardchoille> Is anyone else with nvidia drivers missing tty's 1-6? Or is this known?
[21:31] <vbgunz> basket started up
[21:31] <dithi_> ardchoille: it works for me until I suspend
[21:31] <vbgunz> I'll try kopete
[21:31] <dithi_> clyrrad: I don't know what's the difference between vnc4server and vncserver
[21:31] <dithi_> I guess vnc4server is more up-to-date, or it may be a fork
[21:32] <WaltzingAlong> freenx
[21:32] <aspirin_on_kubun> hi
[21:33] <dithi_> oh, yeah, I want to try freenx, I tried non-free nx a long time ago and I liked it so much
[21:33] <aspirin_on_kubun> i try nvidia-settings --load-only-config to load my nvidia settings, but nothing happens
[21:33] <ardchoille> !launchpad
[21:33] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[21:33] <WaltzingAlong> roadfish: not sure about reliability but having the packages downloaded can help a lot should there be any hiccups during upgrade; no need to redownload them
[21:34] <vbgunz> yeah, that patch removed over 43 packages. basket launches without a hiccup and kopete is signed in
[21:34] <vbgunz> looks real good so far
[21:34] <hargibi> hmm. i get a black screen on the boot up.. and ive tryed changeing to VGA mode and everything... Its on a thinkpad laptop
[21:34] <ardchoille> vbgunz: Can you get basket to appear in kontact?
[21:34] <hargibi> dunno what to do
[21:34] <vbgunz> ardchoille: I'll look
[21:35] <vbgunz> ardchoille: no, it doesn't show up inside kontact
[21:35] <ardchoille> vbgunz: In feisty, basket was a module you could add, like the notes, journal, and others
[21:35] <jim> !dvd
[21:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[21:35] <vbgunz> ardchoille: I know, I seen it but always had basket sitting in the tray
[21:36] <aspirin_on_kubun> how can i load at startup nvidia-settings.rc?
[21:36] <vbgunz> I never really started to use any KDE apps until the end of feisty... I switched from firefox, thunderbird to konqueror and kmail... now, its gaim for kopete if those long standing bugs really got fixed
[21:38] <hargibi> btw.. is there any easy way to install kde4? i guess the guide on kubuntu homepage is easy but i sure as hell couldnt figure it out
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> hargibi: thats about as easy as it gets
[21:39] <BluesKaj> hargibi, it' not as easy they say
[21:40] <hargibi> hmmm
[21:40] <x_link> Hi everybody!
[21:40] <hydrogen> hargibi: its not worth installing it at this point.
[21:40] <hargibi> ahh
[21:40] <hargibi> well i figured that almost
[21:40] <acee1234> why does distribution upgrade freeze on "installing the upgrades" on kubuntu 7.10?
[21:40] <hargibi> beta sucks
[21:40] <hargibi> =)
[21:40] <BluesKaj> it's very clunky and unstable
[21:41] <hargibi> but anyone know anything about my black boot loading screen?
[21:41] <raidproblem> The kubuntu installer can't see my raid setup, it just wants to install to one of the disks in the raid set
[21:41] <x_link> I need help with a small thing.
[21:41] <x_link> First time I wanted to install Kubuntu 7.04 I had to run the Live CD first.
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> raidproblem: I think you need to use the alternate installer for RAID
[21:42] <x_link> Then after that I could install it to my hdd.
[21:42] <raidproblem> ah ok
[21:42] <x_link> But I don't want that.
[21:42] <acee1234> if no one knows who might i ask?
[21:42] <x_link> Then somebody here gave me a link to a Kubuntu 7.04-version that I didn't need to run Live CD first then install it.
[21:42] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: with the 'desktop' or livecd that is how it works
[21:42] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: otherwise you need the dvd version or the alternate cd
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: what error does it give you?
[21:43] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: nothing just sits on 0%
[21:43] <x_link> But with the Kubuntu 7.04-cd that I have now I don't need to run Live CD first, I just put in the CD and then I install Kubuntu. Really smooth.
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: on the command line?
[21:43] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Alternate, does KDE get installed as well then?
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> x_link: yes
[21:43] <acee1234> i did it through adapt
[21:43] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: sure with the kubuntu alternate cd
[21:44] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: i did it through adapt command line shows nothing when i hit "show terminal"
[21:44] <x_link> Ahh okej.
[21:44] <raidproblem> well, I guess I have to go and download another CD :)
[21:44] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: which bug(s) affected you with kopete?
[21:44] <raidproblem> and find another CD to burn to :)
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: did it already DL the packages?
[21:44] <x_link> So Alternate = not Live CD, you just install Kubuntu right away?
[21:44] <raidproblem> thanks for help
[21:44] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: yes
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> WaltzingAlong: 153500
[21:44] <x_link> AM I right?
[21:44] <BluesKaj> gutsy is still a bit "Holey" if you get my drift , but it will be better in a month or 2 after the feedback and fixes are in place
[21:44] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: sure. desktop is run live, then the option to install (or not); alternate has no run live but is just install
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: then,from the command line,run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"... close adept first
[21:45] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: the format toolbar and the little windows that popup when people sign on... I still don't think I know how to get rid of that popup message...
[21:45] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Nice!
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: you mean we should bow down to it?
[21:45] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: there were others but I cannot remember them now
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: settings->configure notifications
[21:45] <BluesKaj> no nosrednaekim , holey not holy :)
[21:46] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Cause I have another Kubuntu 7.04-version as well. When I install Kubuntu with that CD I don't get KDE, I need to do sudo aptitude install kde-core.
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: oh.... ;-)
[21:46] <BigDaddy> hey all, is there an app that will go through a users /home and remove .folders for apps no longer installed?
[21:46] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: So Kubuntu-7.10-alternate isn't like that?
[21:46] <vbgunz> ok, am setting up window behaviour for kopete, will do that right after
[21:46] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: which is the other? xubuntu or ubuntu ?
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: don't think so :)
[21:46] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: changed time zone and upgrades "tzdata" thats it
[21:46] <BluesKaj> holey = come s with holes in it , like my socks
[21:46] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: damn
[21:46] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Kubuntu.
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: write one ;)
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: send them back if the come with holes...
[21:47] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: ha! that's rich. I am nerd, but not that good of one
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> don't complain to me!
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: =)
[21:47] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: that is strange that the kubuntu alternate cd would not install kde
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> acee1234: hmmm try a reboot then :)
[21:47] <BigDaddy> looks like I need to go through manually an get rid of them then.
[21:47] <BluesKaj> BigDaddy, not sure which distro ?      lsb_release -a
[21:47] <acee1234> nosrednaekim: alright brb
[21:47] <BigDaddy> BluesKaj: kubuntu 7.04
[21:48] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: the notifications are in the kopete/settings/configure notifications
[21:48] <vbgunz> got it, looking at it now, thanks a million fellas
[21:49] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: I don't think it's Kubuntu Alternate..
[21:49] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Well, thanks alot!
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> bye all! have fun with gutsy!
[21:49] <x_link> WaltzingAlong: Thanks alot for your help!
[21:49] <BigDaddy> BluesKaj: what is lsb_release
[21:49] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: when are you sending a message or chat, turn off the format toolbar with the chat/message window/settings/toolbars/format
[21:49] <BigDaddy> ?
[21:50] <WaltzingAlong> x_link: even the live kubuntu cd should install (the pieces of kde for that kubuntu distribution) kde
[21:50] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: I seem to have gotten rid of that toolbar for good. am so glad it actually sticks now :)
[21:50] <navets> HALP! where is the dualview program that comes with gutsy
[21:50] <BluesKaj> BigDaddy, in the konsole the '  lsb_release -a ' command tells you which version
[21:51] <WaltzingAlong> :d
[21:51] <BigDaddy> BluesKaj: oh. I already knew the version but still cool to know that
[21:52] <BluesKaj> well, it's awy of checking once you've upgraded
[21:52] <BluesKaj> a way
[21:53] <Pete^_> can't get multimedia buttons working on toshiba laptop.
[21:53] <Pete^_> any ideas?
[21:53] <acee1234> same result
[21:53] <BigDaddy> Pete^_: when you say you can't get them to work, what have you done so far?
[21:54] <Pete^_> used xev
[21:54] <acee1234> anyone know why  have to use ifup eth0 every time i want to access the Internet. wireless doesnt seem to work either.
[21:55] <BigDaddy> have you just tried using the keyboard shortcuts under the control center? Turns out that was all I needed to do for my multimedia keyboard
[21:55] <Pete^_> tried that...
[21:55] <Super_Cat_Frog_> hi - i've just installed gutsy and i'm having problems with my mouse in kde - the focus is not being updated to the active window - any ideas?
[21:56] <Super_Cat_Frog_> eg: now, its acting like im still clicked on the 'konsole' icon on my taskbar
[21:56] <Super_Cat_Frog_> is this a known problem?
[21:58] <quwiero> Hi!
[21:58] <vbgunz> does kopete do logging?
[21:58] <arash> vbgunz
[21:58] <arash> yes
[21:58] <WaltzingAlong> !hi | quwiero
[21:58] <ubotu> quwiero: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[21:59] <quwiero> Tanks!
[21:59] <quwiero> Thanks!
[21:59] <vbgunz> arash: where does it send the logs and how do I read them?
[22:00] <arash> settings -> plugins -> history, It definetly logs it, since it display when you opne chat window, but I never bothered looking file location
[22:00] <alejandro> hola
[22:00] <alejandro> hi
[22:00] <alejandro> how to upgade to gutsy
[22:00] <alejandro> ?
[22:00] <acee1234> if no one know how to fix the wireless does any one who who i might ask?
[22:00] <WaltzingAlong> alejandro: upgrade instructions are in the topic
[22:00] <alejandro> its stable now?
[22:00] <aro> alejandro, download iso, burn, install
[22:01] <vbgunz> arash: hmm. I have that plugin enabled... I hope when I want to go into the logs it doesn't sabotage me :)
[22:01] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi | acee1234
[22:01] <ubotu> acee1234: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:01] <aro> alejandro, it's officially released
[22:01] <tekteen> anyone know how to modify the live cd installer?
[22:02] <arash> vbgunz: sabotage you? I assume its saved as a text file, not as a virus executable that the Kopete programmers put their to be evil :p
[22:02] <aro> tekteen, modify in what way
[22:02] <BluesKaj> err modify ?
[22:02] <tekteen> automatically install debs
[22:02] <aro> tekteen, still don't know what you mean
[22:02] <vbgunz> arash: heh, I meant when I need to look into the logs, I hope it doesn't become impossible to find them or a nuisance
[22:02] <tekteen> add extra debs autmatically
[22:03] <tekteen> change what is installed
[22:03] <foxhound31> tried to install nvidia driver but the propretary driver was greyed out
[22:03] <BluesKaj> tekteen, depends which cd you have , but if you want to use it as a source there's an option
[22:03] <arash> vbgunz: save it as favorites if you found em once, you don't think the normal 'show messages when open chat window' is enough?
[22:03] <foxhound31> why would this happen
[22:03] <BrightEyes`> hello.i installed windoze and the boot loader was gone.i somehow tried something on ubuntuforums.then i uninstalled grub and installed grub2.what can i do so it will be able to find my windoze as well?
[22:03] <WaltzingAlong> tekteen: so to build your own livecd?
[22:03] <WaltzingAlong> !grub | BrightEyes`
[22:03] <ubotu> BrightEyes`: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:03] <aro> tekteen, why would you want to
[22:03] <tekteen> ok
[22:03] <aro> tekteen, just install stuff after
[22:03] <foxhound31> also I could not set my card from 256 to 2128 either
[22:04] <foxhound31> 128*
[22:04] <tekteen> I am creating a cd anyone can use
[22:04] <kaminix> Can you not use vhosts on freenode?
[22:04] <vbgunz> arash: thats the thing, I went all up and down the chat window, I didn't see anything about logs or history
[22:05] <vbgunz> ahh, in right click on a buddy, I see 'view history'
[22:05] <vbgunz> thats good enough :)
[22:05] <tekteen> we referb computers and put on kubuntu
[22:05] <arash> vbgunz: Good enough for government work ;) , whoops, I mean Open source work!
[22:05] <vbgunz> heh
[22:05] <vbgunz> I hope Kopete turns out to be great :)
[22:05] <tekteen> I need to know how to have it auto install kubuntu then run a script automatically
[22:06] <tekteen> anyone know
[22:07] <tekteen> how do i edit the kubuntu install program on the live cd?
[22:07] <kukman> hi
[22:07] <kukman> where is log file of dhcp3-server?
[22:07] <foxhound31> consumer linux still got a looooooooooooooooooong way to go
[22:07] <tekteen> yep
[22:08] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. My Evil clone from the basement is on. :)
[22:08] <jussi01> where in xorg.conf do modelines go?
[22:08] <WaltzingAlong> foxhound31: best define your consumer
[22:08] <foxhound31> well I do IT support for a living and I was hoping 7.10
[22:08] <Dr_willis_> jussi01,  might want to google for some xorg.conf examples  -  easier to explain that way.
[22:09] <Dr_willis_> jussi01,  i dont even think i have any modelines in my xorg.conf any more
[22:09] <foxhound31> would be as easy as they said butso far I cant get my graphics card working or mount the drives
[22:09] <jussi01> Dr_willis_: yeah. ok. just name a section if you can :)
[22:09] <BluesKaj> IT  guys use consumer versions ?
[22:09] <foxhound31> so no change there then
[22:09] <foxhound31> just as difficult as ever so that why its not going to be consumer linux anytime soon
[22:09] <BluesKaj> most IT guys i know use enterprise linux servers
[22:09] <Dr_willis_> jussi01,  i cant. Just looked. No 'Modeline" lines at all. i THINK they go under the monitors sections
[22:10] <jussi01> damn. 19s lag
[22:10] <Dr_willis_> jussi01,  since the modeline is a feature/setting of the monitor.
[22:11] <Dr_willis_> foxhound31,  given some of the song and dancing ive had to do with windows in the last month or so.. I will stick with Linux. :)
[22:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: who are you?
[22:11] <tekteen> does anyone here know how to modify the live cd to run a script after installing kubuntu? I need it so idiots (ok... computer illiterate people) install kubuntu the same way on many machines.
[22:11] <kukman> I can't start dhcp3-server. What I can do?
[22:12] <kukman> Where I can see the errors?
[22:12] <foxhound31> looks like kubuntu got some bugs in 7.10 cos ubuntu can mount the drives but kubuntu cant
[22:12] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how come my computer is using 100% cpu and all i have on is amarok and konversation and superkaramba
[22:12] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  there is a feature i think like that for the 'OEM' setup on the alternative install cd and some sort of 'kickstart' feature i read about
[22:13] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: fire up top and find out what's using the cpu power.
[22:13] <arash> foxhound31, isn't the mounting part identical for those two? Im a noob in these thing though...
[22:13] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  let me see if i can find it.
[22:13] <tekteen> where can I get more info
[22:13] <tekteen> ok
[22:13] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: whats top?
[22:13] <foxhound31> arash wait
[22:13] <Dr_willis_> I got a  Live bookmark on a site that has tips and info on that stuff :)
[22:13] <arash> !top
[22:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:13] <foxhound31> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087495.0
[22:13] <WaltzingAlong> !info top | arash
[22:13] <rohan> WTF is wrong .. everytime i cut-paste a file from anywhere, it just gets copy pasted ..
[22:14] <rohan> i need to manually use the terminal to move a file
[22:14] <foxhound31> doesnt say if they if the guy got it to work tho.
[22:14] <ubotu> arash: Package top does not exist in gutsy
[22:14] <arash> WaltzingAlong: Say that to Atomicbomber -.-
[22:14] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/14/automated-ubuntu-installation-preview/
[22:14] <tekteen> ty
[22:14] <rohan> is this is known bug or something ?
[22:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: ?
[22:14] <rohan> i'm moving file from desktop to ~/debs folder using dolhpin
[22:14] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  ive never used that feature. :) i just rember the artical
[22:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> everything on my screen is basically frozen besides my mouse and konersation i cant move any windows
[22:15] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  you are the 2nd person now thats mentioned this.. sounding like a bug.
[22:15] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: you just run top in the command line and see what is using the processing power...
[22:15] <rohan> Dr_willis_: wow, can you give me the logs of the first person ? then i'll file a bug
[22:15] <verve> hey.. um.. i had a couple errors during upgrade, and now it seems to have frozen
[22:16] <verve> i was gonna exit out of it, but it said it could render it unusable
[22:16] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  he basicially said what you did
[22:16] <verve> is it safe to close and re-open adept or what?
[22:16] <rohan> Dr_willis_: did he say anyhting about filing a bug ?
[22:16] <bascule> rohan: cut and paste? doesn't update the desktop; files/folders show greyed out?
[22:16] <rohan> bascule: yes, exactly
[22:16] <bascule> me too
[22:16] <rohan> bascule: damn, we're having hte same problems
[22:16] <Dr_willis_> not realy, I  learned how to change the Default filemanager back to Konqueror. :)
[22:16] <bascule> we share a lot of bugs :)
[22:16] <rohan> the volume OSD too, bascule eh ? :)
[22:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: everything is frozen :[
[22:17] <bascule> rohan: yes that too :)
[22:17] <verve> anyone?
[22:17] <rohan> bascule: so, you're filing this one, or i do ?
[22:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: besides this (konversation)
[22:17] <Dr_willis_> volume stuck at 11% ?
[22:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: i cant move any windows
[22:17] <Dr_willis_> just noticed that bug heh heh
[22:17] <rohan> Dr_willis_: yeah
[22:17] <bascule> well I don't mind really
[22:17] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: then  you're screwed.
[22:17] <rohan> bascule: ok, once you do, give me the link, i'll add my "me too"
[22:17] <bascule> Dr_willis_: I submitted the volume bug
[22:18] <irvken> how can I find out what the wifi adpater is on my laptop?
[22:18] <Dr_willis_> looke like i can move 10% total from 100 to 90 :)
[22:18] <rohan> irvken: lspci
[22:18] <rohan> no that won't give the wifi adapter
[22:18] <Dr_willis_> it might :)
[22:18] <rohan> bascule: you're filing right now ?
[22:18] <rohan> Dr_willis_: not here, atleas
[22:19] <bascule> rohan: yeah
[22:19] <Dr_willis_> its not just saying some 'unknown device' ? :)
[22:19] <rohan> bascule: cool :)
[22:19] <carwash^> anyone got bluetooth and a2dp working?
[22:19] <Dr_willis_> Ive given up on wireless. :(
[22:20] <rohan> Dr_willis_: which card ?
[22:20] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  4 different ones.. :)
[22:20] <bascule> rohan: already there https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/136695
[22:20] <rohan> Dr_willis_: haha
[22:20] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  even under windows - i jsut dont get a good signal in my house.  so i ran wires
[22:20] <tekteen> Dr_willis: the site is great for preseed but not for running a script at the end. thanks anyway though
[22:20] <rohan> intel ones work well i think, Dr_willis_
[22:20] <rohan> oh, Dr_willis_ , not a linux problem
[22:20] <irvken> lspci doesn't seem to report anything that looks vaguely like the wifi
[22:20] <hydrogen> is there a way to determine what package a file belongs to?
[22:20] <Dr_willis_> tekteen,  check out that 'oem' feature of the alt-cd perhaps.
[22:20] <tekteen> ok
[22:21] <tekteen> thanx
[22:21] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  wirless dont work too well going through the wall/floors here past all the pipes and wires and ductwork
[22:21] <Dr_willis_> Then again it Barely worked in the same room as the wireless router.
[22:21] <Dr_willis_> Perhaps when wireless N gets cheaper i may try that
[22:21] <flake> trying to backup harddrive onto dvds, it's saying it can only burn 6 directories deep, using gnomebaker..   is that the limit with dvds?
[22:22] <Dr_willis_> flake,  may be an juilet filesystem limit.
[22:22] <irvken> my wireless is fine, just the laptop with a problem
[22:22] <WaltzingAlong> flake: with the filesystem i think
[22:22] <Dr_willis_> thers variations on that - i think that can go deeper.
[22:22] <Dr_willis_> try k3b. it has more features then gnomebaker. and i know you can set that with it.
[22:22] <BrightEyes`> anyone to help me configure grub2???
[22:23] <rohan> BrightEyes`: what is the problem ?
[22:23] <bascule> hydrogen: dpkg -S some/file
[22:23] <hydrogen> bascule: yea.. found that righta fter I asked :)
[22:23] <flake> ok
[22:23] <BrightEyes`> rohan: i uninstalled grub and installed grub2 and i want to find my windows os so i ll be able to boot there too.how can i do that
[22:23] <patxi> hi
[22:23] <bascule> cool
[22:24] <patxi> kubntu 7.10 is rc still
[22:24] <patxi> no?
[22:24] <hydrogen> no
[22:24] <xevious> patxi: nope
[22:24] <rohan> BrightEyes`: sorry, no idea .. never used grub2
[22:24] <patxi> but it is full of bugs
[22:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: now what do i fire up
[22:25] <WaltzingAlong> patxi: 7.04 was 'full of bugs' even still last week!
[22:25]  * rohan wishes he had not formatted his feisty install for gutsy
[22:25] <patxi> amarok re-install every time mp3 support
[22:25] <irvken> looks ok to me, although it's only been on 10 minutes
[22:25] <patxi> adept don't ask me root passwd
[22:25] <hydrogen> sounds like your system is full of bugs
[22:25] <cash> Hello I have issue with Knetwork - icon(connection established) is active all time (when I offline too) ,and Knetwork dont show me wireless networks and when I need to connect I need to set my cable to network card and in Knetwork in ,manua configuration swith off and switch on network interface =(((((( l
[22:25] <hydrogen> Oo
[22:26] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: top is the name of the program
[22:26] <irvken> new laptop, had debian on fro a week never got wireless working on that, thought I'd try the new kubuntu
[22:26] <WaltzingAlong> patxi: adept should but if you typed it once there is a timeout before it needs it again
[22:26] <flake> wow, k3b looks nicer too
[22:26] <cash> help me please (( I tired
[22:26] <rohan> irvken: and now wireless works in kubuntu ?
[22:27] <rohan> bascule: you still have that 0 to 11 % problem ?
[22:27] <bascule> rohan: yeah
[22:27] <rohan> bascule: now i don't get any OSD while setting the volume !
[22:27] <bascule> oh, worse then ... :)
[22:27] <rohan> i updated my intel-hda drivers to the latest ones from alsa-hg
[22:27] <cash> guys
[22:28] <bascule> rohan: ah, I really thing it's a kmixer problem
[22:28] <rohan> bascule: or a kmilo problem (which i think is more likely)
[22:28] <bascule> kmilo, not sure what that is
[22:28] <rohan> because now the volume keys work perfectly, just no OSD
[22:28] <bascule> rohan: I get no volume chae either
[22:28] <bascule> change
[22:29] <irvken> no rohan wireless doesn't work
[22:29] <irvken> I'm in the early stages of tshooting it
[22:29] <rohan> irvken: ah ok
[22:29] <rohan> bascule: bad :(
[22:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: why is my cpu being used so much?
[22:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: what is using so much of my cup
[22:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> cpu
[22:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> somebody help me
[22:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does amarok use that much cpu
[22:31] <rohan> bascule: check out - the drag and drop operation works
[22:31] <rohan> just ctrl-x or right click cut doesn't work
[22:31] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: hit CTRL+alt+escape
[22:31] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: jesus christ... read a damn man page or something. Do you know anything about the command line? If not, then wait for someone who knows how to figure this stuff out in agui to help you. I've already told you the name of the programt hat lets you look at cpu and memory usage.
[22:31] <hydrogen> and see whats using it
[22:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i think i should use the 64bit cause my computer is a 64bit should i?
[22:31] <bascule> strange ....
[22:32] <WaltzingAlong> !language
[22:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[22:32] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: you can, does not mean you have to
[22:32] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i would guess that somthing crashed and is sucking up cpu.  logout/back in
[22:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: i ran top shut up and chill out
[22:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> billytwowilly: it never came up
[22:32] <billytwowilly> AT0M1CB0MB3R: then reboot your system.
[22:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: can you install flash and stuff now with problems or anything like that?
[22:33] <Dr_willis_> If the system cant respond to a shell command. You got somthing very messed up.   You might be better off rebooting.
[22:33] <BrightEyes`> rohan: i uninstalled grub and installed grub2 and i want to find my windows os so i ll be able to boot there too.how can i do that
[22:33] <hydrogen> err
[22:33] <hydrogen> oops
[22:33] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: thats CTRL+ESCAPE
[22:33] <hydrogen> ctrl_alt_escape is another sequence
[22:33] <hydrogen> as I just demonstrated
[22:33] <rohan> BrightEyes`: 02:54 < rohan> BrightEyes`: sorry, no idea .. never used grub2
[22:33] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yes those things work still, perhaps a step or two (more or other) but sure
[22:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: whats that do? ctrl alt escape do?
[22:33] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: when i had 64 bit hardware i preferred to have the 64bit os
[22:33] <hydrogen> ctrl_alt_escape kills the next selected window
[22:33] <hydrogen> ctrl_escape shows a process table
[22:34] <ChrisMir> Hi, did alt-tab behaviour change with 7.10?
[22:34] <Dr_willis_> ChrisMir,  not that ive noticed.
[22:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: me too but i could never install flash or any of the stuff i needed
[22:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: in feisty
[22:34] <irvken> oh cool, couldn't get my internal adapter working, but the moment I stuck an external usb wifi dapter in it auto configured
[22:34] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: i had it working in feisty.
[22:34] <ChrisMir> hmm, normally I get a popupwindow with apps in the middle of my screen, which now aint happening
[22:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: 64bit?
[22:35] <hydrogen> there is very little reason for a 64bit os
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yes
[22:35] <rohan> ChrisMir: you've compiz enabled ?
[22:35] <ChrisMir> nope
[22:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: was it hard
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: no
[22:35] <hydrogen> with the exception of a placebo
[22:35] <rohan> ChrisMir: well it's working perfectly here ..
[22:35] <Dr_willis_> ChrisMir,  i get a list of apps. same as i al3ways did.
[22:35] <hydrogen> (64bit is obviously twice as fast as 32bit)
[22:35] <rohan> ChrisMir: it lists the open windows
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: hydrogen: yes 64bit desktop os is not the norm now, true
[22:35] <Dr_willis_> ChrisMir,  you using compiz?
[22:35] <ChrisMir> No, I dont use compiz
[22:35] <WaltzingAlong> hydrogen: 64bit does not mean 2x as fast as 32bit
[22:35] <ChrisMir> I do have it installed, but kwin is active
[22:35] <Dr_willis_> 2X As cool. :)
[22:36] <hydrogen> WaltzingAlong: I can see that sarcasm is not one of your stronger points
[22:36] <hydrogen> nor is reading..
[22:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: does it go faster as 64bit or no?
[22:36] <rohan> hydrogen: haha
[22:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: i guess im stupid
[22:36] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: no, it doesn't
[22:36] <WaltzingAlong> hydrogen: yes all about user's impression
[22:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: so is it worth installing a 64bit os?
[22:36] <hydrogen> with the exception of a few corner cases
[22:37] <rohan> why are some items disabled in firefox's "Help" menu ?
[22:37] <Dr_willis_> I dont see much need to use a 64bit os for most people.
[22:37] <rohan> report web forgery and such ?
[22:37] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: you will likely not notice a difference in speed with desktop computing (64bit vs 32bit)
[22:37] <prak> does anyone know how to update kubuntu through the gutsy cd?
[22:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> well my computer is using 85 percent of cpu and i have 2 programs running
[22:37] <WaltzingAlong> as easily as one could argue that most of the people using desktop computers now are not using the 32bits worth
[22:37] <BrightEyes`> whats "rootnoverify" and whats the last symbol in "(hd0,0)" ?
[22:37] <WaltzingAlong> prak: you need the dvd or the alternate-cd (not live/desktop)
[22:37] <Dr_willis_> Report Web Forgey works here.
[22:38] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  what last symbol?
[22:38] <lido76-11> hallloooo
[22:38] <prak> WaltzingAlong: i got the desktop CD
[22:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> well my computer is using 85 percent of cpu and i have 2 programs running WaltzingAlong
[22:38] <rohan> Dr_willis_: yes, my mistake
[22:38] <rohan> "Check for updates" doesn't
[22:38] <WaltzingAlong> prak: then you cannot.
[22:38] <Dr_willis_> rootnoverify  tells it to set the partition as root. and just DO it.. :)
[22:38] <binduwavell> I installed a pre-release of gutsy, now that it's released I'm being told in adept that I'm supposed to version upgrade, but the version upgrade tool says I'm already upgraded... any suggestions?
[22:38] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  thats beause updates are handled with the package manager system. Not firefox itself.
[22:38] <WaltzingAlong> !final | binduwavell
[22:38] <ubotu> binduwavell: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[22:38] <ChrisMir> Instead of the list of apps, apps are just switched, when I use alt-tab. `kwin --replace` didn't solve it. :/
[22:39] <Dr_willis_> binduwavell,  you are upgraded then.
[22:39] <rohan> Dr_willis_: i know that, yet i was just curious ;)
[22:39] <WaltzingAlong> binduwavell: but yes that is a known issue (being asked to install gutsy on systems with gutsy)
[22:39] <BrightEyes`> Dr_willis: the hd0,0 the last 0
[22:39] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  thats the partition #. grub basics here. :)
[22:39] <rohan> Dr_willis_: btw, how did you change the default file manager to konqueror ? i don't think i like dolphin
[22:39] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it may be the strigi indexer..
[22:39] <hydrogen> rohan: its in systemsettings/kcontrol
[22:39] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: how do i disable that
[22:39] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  let me check. ya got to fire up konwueror. under  Settings/Configure Konwueror.
[22:40] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: uninstall it is the quick way..
[22:40] <hydrogen> theres a way to stop it form indexing
[22:40] <hydrogen> I think
[22:40] <hangthedj> hydrogen, thats what i did
[22:40] <hydrogen> I just uninstalled it
[22:40] <rohan> Dr_willis_: and then ?
[22:40] <hangthedj> you have to go to like strigi:/config in konq i think
[22:40] <waterpie> hi all
[22:40] <rohan> hydrogen: where ? i don't see it in "Default applications" atleast
[22:40] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  File Assouations ->  INODE. - select each item and look. Move 'konqueror' up the list   where its above  Dolphin
[22:41] <waterpie> how do you set konqueror as default instead of dolphin?
[22:41] <Dr_willis_> rohan,  you are basicially setting the default file assicaton for 'direcroties' :)
[22:41] <Dr_willis_>  fire up konwueror  ->   Settings/Configure Konwueror.
[22:41] <WaltzingAlong> directories but also system:/ media:/
[22:41] <rohan> Dr_willis_: i see .. thanks a lot
[22:41] <Dr_willis_> File Assouations ->  INODE. - select each item and look. Move 'konqueror' up the list   where its above  Dolphin
[22:41] <irvken> I've installed compiz how do i get it work?
[22:41] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[22:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[22:42] <binduwavell> ubotu, Dr_willis & WaltzingAlong: thanks... but why do I keep getting notified I'm supposed to version upgrade? btw, i did apt-get update and dist-upgrade both indicate I'm up to date...
[22:42] <rohan> wow ubotu displays different factoids depending on the channel .. cool
[22:42] <Dr_willis_> Its a bugglet binduwavell
[22:42] <Dr_willis_>  if they say you are up to date.. then you are.
[22:42] <WaltzingAlong> binduwavell: you are but it is a bug
[22:42] <WaltzingAlong> rohan: and depending on the query!
[22:42] <binduwavell> Dr_willis_: OK, so I just ignore for now?
[22:42] <binduwavell> I just got kopete fixed... just trying to do cleanup :)
[22:42] <Dr_willis_> binduwavell,  got a better idea? :) yes..ignore it.
[22:43] <binduwavell> Dr_willis: kk, thanks
[22:43] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)
[22:44] <ChrisMir> Hmm.. 'configure window behaviour' -> Focus -> enabling  'show window list while switching windows', gave me back the normal behaviour, although with the mentioned frames. weirdness
[22:44] <waterpie> Dr_willis: Thanks
[22:45] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: quick before my cpu is using 100 percent how do i uninstall strigi
[22:45] <Dr_willis_> here we go...
[22:45] <Dr_willis_> To Make konqueror the default file manager intead of Dolphin do the following  Start Konqueror -> Settings->Configure Konqueror -> File Assoiations -> INODE,
[22:45] <Dr_willis_> Under "Directrory" and "System Directory"  Move Konqueror UP the list above dolphin.
[22:45] <Dr_willis_> Is that clear enough for a factoid? :)
[22:46] <edenbeast> anybody know where I can allow my windows to traverse multiple desktops when I drag them? I can't remember where that setting is :-)
[22:46] <Kr4t05> TBH, I prefer Dolphin to Konqueror.
[22:46] <waterpie> when i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same
[22:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: you there man?
[22:47] <Garnam> Hello everybody
[22:47] <rohan> WaltzingAlong: country ? can you give me an example ?
[22:47] <Dr_willis_> The More i use Dolphin the more i HATE it. :)
[22:47] <Dr_willis_> then again - i do use some of the more odd features of the Konqueror file manager
[22:48] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody know how to uninstall strigi
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  sudo apt-get remove strigi
[22:48] <nicolai_> Dr_willis_: thank you for the guide
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> !info strigi
[22:48] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in gutsy
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> if we can find the RIGHT package name. :)
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> !find strigi
[22:48] <ubotu> Found: libstrigihtmlgui-dev, libstrigihtmlgui0, libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev, libstrigiqtdbusclient0, strigi-applet (and 5 others)
[22:48] <nicolai_> Dr_willis_: Dolphin is one big bug on my gutsy install
[22:48] <edenbeast> I don't like that dolphin doesn't use tabs :-/
[22:48] <ChrisMir> Kr4t05: I do like dolphin a lot and I really would love to use it, but I'm so used to used to just type ftp://, fish:// and always have a multitude of tabs open
[22:49] <Garnam> I updated my kubuntu to Gutsy yesterday, and it errored out at around 75% due to problems with installing nvivia-glx. Is there any way to check which packages got purged / not updated so taht I can be sure that my system is complete? I found no defects until now. Or should I do a clean install after something like this?
[22:49] <John117> Hey, i am running Gutsy and I just tried to install CompizFusion.  This is the error message I got: sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde
[22:49] <oritemis> hi, I installed compiz fusion into kubuntu gutsy and a white border line appear in context menu, somone had the same problem?
[22:49] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: tried dpkg -C
[22:50] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: no, testimg now
[22:50] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: gives no output whatsoever
[22:51] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: Interesting
[22:51] <edenbeast> I tried compiz-fusion as well and it just can't hold a candle to what beryl was :-/
[22:52] <WaltzingAlong> rohan: an  example of what?
[22:52] <John117> peopld told me compiz was better than beryl.
[22:52] <bascule> edenbeast: what was better in beryl?
[22:52] <h3sp4wn> They were 99.5% identical anyway
[22:52] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: yea, but i have some packages taht are not qiuet three, nvidia-driver doesn't work, but there are no further defects and it tells me i have the latest version of all packages, despite erroring out at 75%
[22:52] <aspirin_on_kubun> how can set brightness-contrast?
[22:52] <John117> Nobody can give me a straight answer that works.  Why is everyting so complicate?  Why can't you just INSTALL A PROGRAM? LOL How do i install Compiz on Kubuntu Gutsy
[22:53] <bascule> John117: use adept
[22:53] <h3sp4wn> John117: I can install a program
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> John117,  you havent followed that compiz url yet yave ya?
[22:53] <snikker> i've got small fonts in all application afte update to gusty. how can i fix this?
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> it tells you what you need to install.
[22:53] <John117> what compiz url?
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[22:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[22:53] <oritemis> hi, I installed compiz fusion into kubuntu gutsy and a white border line appear in context menu, somone had the same problem?
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> it gets pasted in ehre every 4 min
[22:53] <Dr_willis_> Theres a reason Compiz wasent included by default. :)
[22:53] <AmyRose> OK, I got a log from my failure to get KDE 4 working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41435/
[22:54] <Garnam> h3sp4wn:  oh my god, so many typos, kill me now please
[22:54] <John117> Okay..  dr_willis, I read that.  And am getting an error message.  I posted the error message here when i entered.  did anybody see it?
[22:54] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: I read it as that are not quiet there
[22:54] <edenbeast> the configuration manager you got with beryl was awesome
[22:54] <John117> Everybody says follow the link..  read the instructions.. but the instructions never work.
[22:54] <bascule> 3 years ago, linux is free it's stable it is customizable it is flexible, now "OOOOHH, spinning cube .... gimme!!" ;)
[22:54] <edenbeast> ccsm is a horror
[22:54] <Dr_willis_> John117,  i dident see an erorr message - i saw your 'apt-get install line'
[22:54] <John117> I just installed this version of kubuntu yesterday.  I've done nothing with it.
[22:55] <AmyRose> bascule: But me love spinning cube!
[22:55] <Dr_willis_>  sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde      --> is NOT an error message ;)
[22:55] <John117> ERROR MESSAGE > E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:55] <WaltzingAlong> !fixapt | John117
[22:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:55] <WaltzingAlong> John117: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:55] <bascule> AmyRose: me too, it's just the whole 'shiny thing' mentality that makes me laugh
[22:55] <edenbeast> I don't like the cube much but there are other features I find handy, the only sore thing is virtual desktop support :-/
[22:55] <Dr_willis_> I find the cube useless.. :) except to show off.
[22:56] <AmyRose> bascule: Yeah, I was on Linux before Compiz and Beryl were even invented... ;)
[22:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i only use one desktop :]
[22:56] <bascule> AmyRose: and me, rpm hell and all
[22:56] <ScorpKing> i get "E: The package list or status file could not be parsed or opened." when running apt-get update to update apt on a local repo. why is it saying that?
[22:56] <John117> DR_WILLIS hey..  was my probblem that adept was open on the desktop while i was tyring to do it?
[22:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hey ScorpKing :]
[22:56] <moofoo> if compiz would not make resizing of windows so uber-slow, i would might even use it :p
[22:56] <ScorpKing> :D hiya!
[22:56] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: oh, in xorg.con there is nvidia as driver, but glxgears gives me "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display", thes shouldn't be possible, or is nv taken as silent fallback now?
[22:56] <Dr_willis_> John117,  ONLY one 'installer' application can be running at a time.. so YES that was your pboelm
[22:57] <moofoo> bug kde4 will make compiz obsolete hopefully..
[22:57] <John117> dr_wallis thank you, sir.
[22:57] <Dr_willis_> moofoo,  i Hope so. :)
[22:57] <AmyRose> moofoo: Bug?
[22:57] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: I don't know how that bit works but I believe that bulletproof X spec was implimented
[22:57] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: is sources.list listing gutsy ?
[22:58] <moofoo> AmyRose: s/bug/but/ :)
[22:58] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (see what aptitude says I don't trust any other program for major upgrades)
[22:58] <wolfger> hey all. Launchpad is confusing as heck to me.... Where should I go to file a KDE4 packaging (I think) bug?
[22:58] <John117> dr_willis_ i'm getting more errors.
[22:58] <h3sp4wn> wolfger: It is to me also
[22:58] <John117> dr_willis_ talking about packages with unmet dependancies.
[22:59] <h3sp4wn> Anyone know whether the launchpad integration for reportbug or reportbug-ng was completed
[22:59] <WaltzingAlong> but perhaps the new shiny thing can bring enough interest (users) to gnu/linux that more interest is placed there
[22:59] <AmyRose> wolfger: The easiest way to figure this out is to go to packages.ubuntu.com, find the package you want to report a bug on, go to its page, and go to the bug finding link at the bottom of the page
[22:59] <bascule> sure
[22:59] <h3sp4wn> also what about the /etc/event.d stuff that was supposed to replace init.d completely by edgy+2
[22:59] <wolfger> thanks, AmyRose
[22:59] <AmyRose> wolfger: Then if you need to report a new bug, just click Report a Bug or something like that
[22:59] <John117> What is going to bring more users to gnu/linux is making this stuff easier to install.
[23:00] <Dr_willis_> John117,  do an 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try installing the packages again.
[23:00] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: Adept says Gutsy all the way. I thaught bulletproof X spec is only in use for Gnome and gdm for now, nor kdm.
[23:00] <edenbeast> it doesn't come easier than this really :-)
[23:00] <Oakbox> Hi all, i just installed Gutsy (again) im newish to linux played to much and broke it :) oh well...  But now that i have reinstalled the update manager keeps telling me that i havent got the latest version :S any ideas???
[23:00] <bascule> WaltzingAlong: I totally accept that we needed some sort of killer app/feature to grab peoples attention, it's just that so many care of nothing else ...
[23:00] <edenbeast> but compiz isn't really a trivial thing
[23:00] <WaltzingAlong> John117: i doubt so many were held back by how hard things were to install but certainly some were; having neat things to do with it would bring yet others
[23:00] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: I have no idea how it was implimented or not implimented
[23:00] <AmyRose> Oakbox: I think that's a known bug
[23:00] <waterpie> when i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same
[23:00] <edenbeast> it would be comparable to replacing gdi+ and gdi on a windows pc I guess
[23:00] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: so when we get them here to show them the rest of the show, that is the trick i suppose
[23:01] <bascule> yeah, I suppose :)
[23:01] <Oakbox> AmyRose: ok as long as its not me doing something wrong :) ta muchly
[23:01] <marcondes> hi
[23:01] <h3sp4wn> bascule: amarok is good enough for that as the killer application
[23:01] <edenbeast> but honestly it doesn't get better than apt-get install <big office suite> and after a while it's just there :-)
[23:02] <marcondes> algum brasileiro?
[23:02] <bascule> h3sp4wn: yeah i converted 4 people prior to compiz with amarok, about 10 since ... :)
[23:02] <WaltzingAlong> i know of no one coming to gnu/linux based on the audio player
[23:02] <AmyRose> !br | marcondes
[23:02] <ubotu> marcondes: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:02] <WaltzingAlong> but i have known several to enjoy it (amarok) once they used it
[23:02] <mayeco> ubutu hey!
[23:02] <edenbeast> yes amarok is amazing
[23:02] <mayeco> ubotu: hey!
[23:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:02] <mayeco> hahaha
[23:02] <Cugel> Amarok is big, but it does its job.
[23:02] <edenbeast> I switched to kde because of it :P
[23:02] <marcondes> perdao a muito tempo que nao uso irc. e to meio perdido
[23:02] <waterpie> when i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same
[23:02] <mayeco> hola me llamo mario y vivo en panama y soy de colombia
[23:03] <h3sp4wn> bascule: I have got rid of linux on my mainpc - zfs is worth the extra hassle it causes for everything else for me
[23:03] <edenbeast> that and kde printing
[23:03] <marcondes> nem lembro mais os comandos
[23:03] <AmyRose> h3sp4wn: But it's getting ported to Windoze, huh?
[23:03] <marcondes> enfim
[23:03] <John117> dr_willis_ umet dependances..  broken packages.   I already installed the repositories.
[23:03] <moofoo> is there actually a good english grammar checker for linux?
[23:03] <WaltzingAlong> !es
[23:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:03] <h3sp4wn> AmyRose: Good
[23:03] <bascule> h3sp4wn: solaris?
[23:03] <AmyRose> h3sp4wn: GOOD?!
[23:03] <mayeco> hahahahahah I dont know that ubotu do that!
[23:03] <h3sp4wn> bascule: solaris express
[23:03] <AmyRose> !bot | mayeco
[23:03] <edenbeast> john117 do you have the correct repositories in your sources.list file? (how did your atheros installation go?)
[23:03] <ubotu> mayeco: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:03] <bascule> cool, OSX is mentioning zfs soon
[23:04] <mayeco> what is that AmyRose?
[23:04] <h3sp4wn> AmyRose: yep if they make the code more portable (so it works with windows) better chance it won't have linux isms in it that break it on Solaris
[23:04] <edenbeast> I wish we'd had native zfs, that would be sweet :-/
[23:04] <WaltzingAlong> moofoo: aspell but for spelling; otherwise i am not sure. there exist, as far as i know, only two large electronic dictionaries (those needed for complete grammar checking)
[23:04] <mayeco> AmyRose: !bot | xxx?
[23:04] <AmyRose> h3sp4wn: Oh, OK
[23:04] <don_> hey guys
[23:04] <don_> i installed compiz fusion
[23:04] <John117> edenbeast hey! atheros was already installed!  it was too damned cryptic to get to the hardware settings.  I had to right click on the desktop icon for network and it listed my home network there.  There should be a  seprate tray icon for wireless and wired network.
[23:04] <AmyRose> mayeco: You can get ubotu to tell someone about something by using a | followed by the target's nick
[23:04] <bascule> h3sp4wn: got a url that gives a brief outline of zfs features?
[23:04] <don_> and for some reason , i am missing the top of my widnows lol
[23:04] <don_> i cant move them around
[23:04] <don_> they get stuck to the top
[23:04] <alucard> hello community
[23:04] <alucard> ;)
[23:05] <AmyRose> !hi | alucard
[23:05] <ubotu> alucard: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[23:05] <WaltzingAlong> don_: start kwin ? have you been running compiz-fusion
[23:05] <John117> edenbeast Dr_willis_ I have added the repositories that are on the instruction website that you sent me a link for.  then i updated the repositories.  All of it was successful.
[23:05] <don_> yes i am on compiz-fusion i think lol
[23:05] <moofoo> WaltzingAlong: yes i'm aware of aspell/ispell but as you said.. they only check spelling :(
[23:05] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: ok, even sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade says I'm up to date, it just wants to delete 209 packets and update 1. Funny(-not-so) situation. Seems as if it succedet in installing all the packages and errored out before removing the old ones.
[23:05] <alucard> i need help... i have kubuntu installed on ibm t61, i've ran an update to 7.10
[23:05] <AmyRose> moofoo: Just learn the rules of grammar! It's what I did. =P
[23:05] <don_> kwin: unable to claim manager selection, another wm running? (try using --replace)
[23:06] <alucard> somewhere in the middle adept crashed and system is at the mmt... in a bad condition
[23:06] <mayeco> !tell mayeco about KDE
[23:06] <Aranel> how can I colorize my console ?
[23:06] <alucard> can sbdy plz help me?
[23:06] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: try - sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:06] <WaltzingAlong> don_: kwin --replace
[23:06] <teste> l,sls,
[23:06] <AmyRose> !tell mayeco about hi
[23:06] <Aranel> (green for directories, blue for files etc.)
[23:06] <RichardBH> !KDE | mayeco
[23:06] <ubotu> mayeco: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[23:06] <mayeco> nice!!!!!!!!!
[23:06] <moofoo> AmyRose: yes, but even if you know the rules, it's nice to have an automated checked as a computer might spot something you did not notice (like the good old "count all f" test)
[23:06] <edenbeast> aranel you mean you ls output?
[23:06] <don_> hmm now beryl aint working :(
[23:06] <h3sp4wn> bascule: http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.htmlhttp://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-home.html
[23:07] <mayeco> thanks AmyRose!!
[23:07] <Aranel> edenbeast: yes.
[23:07] <h3sp4wn> bascule: *grml*
[23:07] <edenbeast> aranel ls --color
[23:07] <Phoenix_1> hey men, i need help with partition
[23:07] <John117> Am i beyond help?  Nobody wants to help?
[23:07] <edenbeast> aranel easiest is to add an alias ls="ls --color"
[23:07] <AmyRose> John117: Sorry, what's your problem?
[23:07]  * Dr_willis_ is busy editing the compiz wiki page.
[23:07] <Aranel> edenbeast: thanks a lot :)
[23:07] <Oakbox> !gcc
[23:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[23:08] <moofoo> i know of whitesmoke enrichment for windows that actually performs quite well.. but as its more or less integrated into the system and so it does not run with wine.. :/
[23:08] <waterpie> When i start my comp, i have a kio kthumbnail process that uses ~80% cpu and mem. why? I kill it, but next time it is the same
[23:08] <John117> amyrose I am trying to install compiz on gutsy.  I followed the link from ubotu.  I added the repositories..  updated.. tried to install.  I'm getting messages about "E: broken packages" and unmet dependancies
[23:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> what docks can i install?
[23:08] <WaltzingAlong> getting stuck making some thumbnails? waterpie
[23:09] <RichardBH> anybody know why my contacts cant see custom emoticons sent from kopete?
[23:09] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  fire up the package manager and search for 'dock'
[23:09] <WaltzingAlong> John117: you need to use gutsy in place of feisty if you are on gutsy
[23:09] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  none of them have impressed me much.
[23:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i did that before you said it
[23:09] <bascule> h3sp4wn: thanks
[23:09] <John117> waltzingalong why does the tutorial not fricking say that?
[23:09] <stdin> RichardBH: because they don't have the same emoticons installed
[23:09] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: hm, ok, there are some packages missing, but he wants to uninstall too many packages. There is no way I'm going to let him unistall things like tetex-base, any way to exclude some packages?
[23:09] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  many of them are really really.. bad. :)
[23:09] <waterpie> WaltzingAlong: i rebooted with not one window open. I don't know how to make it stop
[23:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: whats the most stable
[23:10] <RichardBH> stdin: theyre on WLM; they were the ones who sent it to me - when i send it back, they just see the text string instead
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i dident find any of them stable. dident find any of them useable..
[23:10] <WaltzingAlong> John117: the link from ubotu still refers to feisty (7.04)
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> !find dock
[23:10] <ubotu> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> !info kooldock
[23:10] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[23:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i have this one installed
[23:11] <tysonsw> how do I change ownership of a fil/arcive??
[23:11] <alucard> tysonsw: man chmod
[23:11] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: It should be removing tetex
[23:11] <stdin> RichardBH: I don't know how wlm does it, but it's usually the job of the client to turn the text code into the emoticon when it's received
[23:11] <AmyRose> John117: OK, can you try a sudo apt-get -f install ?
[23:11] <John117> waltzingalong thank you.  I made that change and i'm updating again.  Well try again and i'm sure I"ll have MORE PROBLEMS.  LOL
[23:11] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: You can switch to texlive
[23:11] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  kooldock dosent seem to work for me at all
[23:11] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: tetex is unmaintained anyway
[23:12] <WaltzingAlong> John117: call them learning opportunities :D
[23:12] <RichardBH> stdin - intriguing
[23:12] <Oakbox> how do i stop kubuntu installing packages from disc and get them from the internet instead?
[23:12] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: Let it do what it needs to to get kubuntu-desktop installed
[23:12] <alucard> can somebody help me? i have a problem with 7.10 upgrade
[23:12] <tysonsw> how do I change ownership of a fil/arcive??
[23:12] <moofoo> bascule: if you want to know about zfs here is the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8100808442979626078 :)
[23:12] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: is it 100% compatible? I have some older projects I'm not gonna touch
[23:12] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: command line? sudo chown user:grp file   like   sudo chown tyson:tyson myvideo.ogm
[23:13] <Oakbox> tysonsw: i think you would use chown
[23:13] <Oakbox> WaltzingAlong: too quick for me :)
[23:13] <WaltzingAlong> Oakbox: dvorak :D
[23:13] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong can you use that for a folder to??
[23:13] <dergringo> Anyone got the audio controls running on Thinkpad T61 ?
[23:13] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: useing some old packages like picins (lat updated 1992) I can't replace
[23:13]  * ScorpKing 38s lag. :( useless dailup...
[23:13] <tysonsw> like ALL folders?
[23:13] <John117> amyroz I added the repositories.  I changed "fiesty" to "gutsy"  I ran "sudo get-apt" and it said that "
[23:13] <John117> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main Packages
[23:13] <John117>   404 Not Found
[23:13] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: I don't know enough about latex to answer this question
[23:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ScorpKing: i have 72 ms lag
[23:14] <snikker> i've got small fonts in all applications after update to gusty. how can i fix this?
[23:14] <Dr_willis_> http://ppa.launchpad.net - is some 3rd party  repo i belive
[23:14] <h3sp4wn> Garnam: You could run a chroot of feisty if you absolutely had to for those older projects though
[23:14] <h3sp4wn> (or dapper etc)
[23:14] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: from the gui? well a few more steps because you need first to be 'root' with the gui app, say dolphin or konqueror. so you would want to start either with kdesu konqueror      but generally this is not a good idea (not a 'best practice')  then just right mouse click the file, type the name of the user/group, and tada
[23:15] <waterpie> bye all
[23:15] <moofoo> h3sp4wn: i suppose you already know the zfs video ... if not its funny ;)
[23:15] <WaltzingAlong> !fonts
[23:15] <Garnam> h3sp4wn: hm, ok they, let's find out. What good are system-backups if I'm not gonna use them ...
[23:15] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[23:15] <Oakbox> !reposotory
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reposotory - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <ardchoille> !repos
[23:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[23:16] <Oakbox> ta if that was for me :)
[23:16] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong: gui app?
[23:16] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: graphical user interface application; cli command line interface
[23:17] <John117> amyrose
[23:17] <John117> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/main Packages
[23:17] <John117>   404 Not Found
[23:17] <stdin> John117: if you read the instructions it tells you that you don't need to add the repositories for gutsy
[23:17] <stdin> I know it says that, I put it there
[23:17] <John117> stdin yes.. but uhm.. its ben WRONG in every other eay.
[23:17] <John117> stdin way.
[23:17] <Dr_willis_> John117,  thats just one repo thats not updated yet. I would say comment it out.. or just ignore the error.
[23:17] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong: how do I access that program?
[23:18] <John117> dr_willis I thought ubuntu "just works"
[23:18] <stdin> John117: wrong? what didn't work and what was the output?
[23:18] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: on which file do you wish to change ownership
[23:18] <John117> stdin i can't paste the out put here.. it would be flooding.
[23:18] <stdin> !paste
[23:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:18] <tysonsw>  WaltzingAlong  source.list
[23:18] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | John117
[23:18] <ubotu> John117: please see above
[23:19] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: /etc/apt/sources.list ? should be root:root
[23:19] <Oakbox> how do i get kubuntu to stop asking for the CD when i install new software?
[23:19] <vbgunz> anyone know why none of the external devices, usb sticks, cards, drives show up on the desktop *until* one is unmounted, then remounted? unmoun one, and remount it, they all show up
[23:19] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: but you want to edit it? alt+f2 then type          kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list                you can also use adept_manager to edit the contents in a graphical way
[23:19] <vbgunz> any way to fix this?
[23:19] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> if i make 2 panels how can i edit one and not the other
[23:20] <Garnam> Oakbox: delete all references to the cd in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:20] <Oakbox> Garnam: ta :)
[23:20] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: no icon for unmounted removable devices? this means every device existing, ok well not quite but a lot :D
[23:20] <ScorpKing> i'm trying to use my local repo. E: Problem with MergeList /var/apt/lists/192.168.1.1_ubuntu_dists_feisty_main_binary-i386_Packages is the error i get.
[23:20] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong adept_manager doesn't work becurse of an error in that file.. witch I need to correct.. and if I type /etc/apt/source.list.. it sais that that file och catalog doesn't exist
[23:20] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: sorry, I have no idea what you said :(
[23:21] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[23:21] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[23:21] <Angelus> wil lthere ever be http mirrors available for the kubuntu live-dvd ? cause their aint much seaders on torrent
[23:21] <John117> waltzingalong amyrose stdin this is my error ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41439/
[23:21] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: no icon for unmounted removable devices? what is removable media? something that can be inserted quickly/easily and removed quickly/easily; what is unmounted? not presently mounted; so an icon for all devices which are not mounted and removable would be an icon not just for your ipod but mine, and all others
[23:22] <AmyRose> brb
[23:22] <AmyRose> going into KDE 4
[23:22] <stdin> John117: yes, that's because you added those repositories, remove them
[23:22] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: but as for the issue with more icons showing up when one partition on a removable device is mounted, yeah that may be an existing bug or perhaps you could report it
[23:22] <my> hello all
[23:22] <John117> stdin okay.
[23:22] <Kernel> !sio
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <Kernel> !iso
[23:22] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong adept_manager doesn't work becurse of an error in that file.. witch I need to correct.. and if I type /etc/apt/source.list.. it sais that that file och catalog doesn't exist
[23:22] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[23:22] <my> need some help, last problem to finish the system
[23:22] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: press alt and f2; this will bring up "run command"; here type   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:23] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: I think you misunderstood. I have several devices that are mounted *but* do not show up on the desktop... I have 3 of them mounted by default on startup. the only way to get them to all show up at once, is to unmount anyone of them and then remount it. doing this. they all show up
[23:23] <John117> stdin removed
[23:23] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: sure but i read two issues. this one you just detailed and the other as well
[23:23] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong all I get is a blank file
[23:23] <stdin> John117: now try installing the packages
[23:24] <vbgunz> WaltzingAlong: take a break, you need a rest :)
[23:24] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: lol :D
[23:24] <NickPresta> Greetings, #kubuntu
[23:24] <BloodyTux> Wud up d00ds?
[23:25] <WaltzingAlong> spelling and grammar test at 13:00
[23:25] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong all I get is a blank file
[23:25] <edenbeast> yuo feel
[23:25] <vbgunz> anybodies external usb devices, sticks, show up on the desktop when you first boot?
[23:25] <BloodyTux> frzoe
[23:25] <BloodyTux> ...
[23:25] <John117> stdin now THIS is the error i got.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41440/
[23:25] <BloodyTux> this is fun
[23:25] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: so what was the complaint about that file anyway? that there was an error with it? which error? that it contained invalid data or no data?
[23:25] <BloodyTux> lag
[23:26] <BloodyTux> K, we're good
[23:26]  * ScorpKing wonders if he will have to install all the packages he want's one by one...
[23:26] <edenbeast> John117: it's called compiz-core
[23:26]  * BloodyTux looks, "Yep."
[23:26] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong invalid adress.. and I can't change in th file.. the system says that I am not root.. even if I am in the root grupp
[23:26] <BloodyTux> ScorpKing: what do you want to do?
[23:26] <dvayanu> hi... is there any chance to get back to feistys alt-tab behaviour in gutsy?
[23:26] <stdin> John117: open adept, go to Adept > Manage Repositories and enable the ones on the 1st tab
[23:26] <my> I have the wireless working using the restricted drivers manager
[23:27] <John117> edenbest when where do i get more update instructions?  I ask a question and you people send me an automated response from obutu and then i follow it and you say "it should be this" or "that's not right"
[23:27] <my> the only thing is that the networks do no appear
[23:27] <edenbeast> he typed compiz instead of compiz-core
[23:27] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: you do not need to be 'root' but you should open the file with kate using kdesu so like i mentioned, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list          but this assumed that the user account you are using is in the 'admin' group
[23:27] <stdin> edenbeast: "compiz" is the package
[23:27] <edenbeast> john117 you have to type compiz-core instead of the first compiz :-)
[23:27] <ScorpKing> BloodyTux: i'm trying to use my local repo. E: Problem with MergeList /var/apt/lists/192.168.1.1_ubuntu_dists_feisty_main_binary-i386_Packages is the error i get when i run apt-get update on a local repo.
[23:27] <John117> I TYPED WHAT THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT OBUTU SENT ME SAID TO TYPE! ARGG..
[23:27] <edenbeast> stdin here it's called compiz-core :-/
[23:27] <stdin> !caps | John117
[23:27] <ubotu> John117: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[23:28] <edenbeast> stdin but if he omits it, shouldn't compiz-kde pull it in?
[23:28] <stdin> edenbeast: see "apt-cache policy compiz"
[23:28] <Dr_willis_> is this under feisty? or Gutsy? i missee that point.
[23:28] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong I am the only account on this computer
[23:28] <ScorpKing> BloodyTux: :P
[23:28] <WaltzingAlong> John117: really the frustration may not be worth compiz-fusion in kde 3.5.8. my suggestion is to play with compiz-fusion in gnome but come back to kde with kde4 when those types of effects will be included
[23:28] <BloodyTux> ScorpKing: Umm... I got no clue ^.^ Never tried anything like that xD
[23:28] <ScorpKing> lol
[23:28] <John117> stdin there is nothing on the "first tab"
[23:28] <stdin> edenbeast: the line he pus installs all the compiz packages and compiz-kde
[23:28] <tysonsw> tysonsw when i rightklick on the file and ses who the owner is.. it says that root is owner and root group
[23:29] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong when i rightklick on the file and ses who the owner is.. it says that root is owner and root group
[23:29] <BloodyTux> John117: What's going on?
[23:29] <edenbeast> stdin but here I got ii  compiz-core                                             1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1
[23:29] <edenbeast> it won't find just compiz here either
[23:29] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: which it should be.
[23:29] <stdin> edenbeast: that's one of the packges, compiz pulls that too
[23:29] <John117> bloodytux i'm ready to go back to windows.  that's whats going on . :)
[23:29] <BloodyTux> XD LMFAO
[23:30] <BloodyTux> John117: Lemme guess, program won't work?
[23:30] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: you should leave the file set as owned by user root and group root. but you can get 'root'-like access to it through the command             kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list                  which you can start with alt+f2
[23:30] <stdin> John117: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8648/cap3jf4.png < like that
[23:30] <John117> bloodytux it's everything.   I ask "how do you install xxxxx" and i get a reply from "ubotu"   I follow the instructions and there are erros.
[23:30] <dvayanu> can i configure alt-tab (walk through windows) to work the same way it did in feisty (and also on macosx and windows) in gutsy?
[23:31] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong yes.. and then I try to change the file. but it says that I don't have write privi on it..
[23:31] <BloodyTux> John117: Ouch. What are you trying to install?
[23:31] <vbgunz> I want my sons account to have only "read only" access to all external devices. how do I do this in Gutsy?
[23:31] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong when I do what you say.. it only gives me a empty document
[23:31] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: kmenu/system settings/window behavior?
[23:31]  * ScorpKing wonders where all the clever people are today and goes away...
[23:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> if i make 2 panels how can i edit one and not the other
[23:31] <John117> boodytux compiz
[23:31] <John117> stdin i did that.
[23:31] <John117> stdin just now
[23:32] <John117> stdin try again?
[23:32] <Dr_willis_> compiz under Feisty or gutsy? I missed that part.
[23:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BloodyTux: remember me from yesterday im LiL-JoN
[23:32] <BloodyTux> John117: Apt-get or Synaptic not working?
[23:32] <stdin> John117: yes, it should work now you've enabled those repositories
[23:32] <John117> dr_wallis gutsy
[23:32] <BloodyTux> Atomguy: Ya, what's up?
[23:32] <Dr_willis_> compiz is a very complex and  detailed set of tools that have to work just right. its also VERY much a work in progreess..
[23:32] <John117> stdin <sigh> try again...
[23:32] <stdin> John117: make sure you close adept before you try apt-get
[23:32] <andreas> h3sp4wn: Ah ok, this looks more like the new version of KDE, thanks. And automount of USB-Sticks now works, too. (But it disables my keyboard if any USB-Stick is mounted, not in the mood to look after this right now... )
[23:32] <Dr_willis_> John117,  this was a clean install? or a upgrade?
[23:33] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: so there you have it. an empty document. does kate show in the title sources.list?    if so, put the following as its own line then close kate (save the file):  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy 		main restricted universe multiverse
[23:33] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: great thanx! show window list was the option... if its unset the order is broken, weird :-) but works now
[23:33] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: great! :D
[23:33] <John117> dr_willis_ clean
[23:33] <Schuenemann> hey, how can I check my disk usage?
[23:33] <Schuenemann> can't find my partition in konqueror
[23:33] <John117> stdin no good.. now it says its locked again as though adept were open.. which it is not.
[23:34] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: is there somewhere a list of changes to default settings? :-) edgy--> feisty was great, feisty-gutsy everything changed
[23:34] <Schuenemann> I mean under /media
[23:34] <prak> how do i upgrade to gutsy through the alternate cd
[23:34] <vbgunz> anyone know how to give an account, read only access to all external devices?
[23:34] <prak> ?
[23:34] <John117> stdin adept is closed
[23:34] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: i usually give kpersonalizer a run to set some quick defaults but then customize from there
[23:34] <stdin> John117: ok, try "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" to unlock it
[23:34] <Dr_willis_> vbgunz,  i think you might have to mess with the groups for that kind of controll.
[23:35] <vbgunz> Dr_willis, thats the thing, my son is only in his group... I can never get the "apply" button to light up on user controls. I think it may be broken :(
[23:35] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong but if I have feisty then??
[23:35] <stdin> prak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-93ac2e597b9e0c5ff78111d4fd2bbe34a35799c7
[23:35] <WaltzingAlong> ryanakca: kopete crashing?
[23:35] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)
[23:35] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: with feisty change the 'gutsy' to 'feisty'
[23:35] <John117> stdin hot damn its connecting.  somebody should add this to instructions!!!
[23:35] <WaltzingAlong> !source-o-matic | tysonsw
[23:35] <ubotu> tysonsw: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[23:36] <John117> stdin those boxes were not checked by default!  If they need to be checked, they should be
[23:36] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: you can also have source-o-magic generate a list of sources for you
[23:36] <stdin> John117: they are by default
[23:36] <John117> stdin *I* didn't change them.
[23:36] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong now I am in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/
[23:36] <Schuenemann> Where can I check how much free space I have on my partition? I don't see it under /media
[23:36] <John117> stdin there must be something wrong.
[23:37] <WaltzingAlong> Schuenemann: df -h
[23:37] <stdin> John117: unless something disabled those sources, or possible if you install with no network connection
[23:37] <BloodyTux> John117
[23:37] <BloodyTux> ...
[23:37] <WaltzingAlong> Schuenemann: or df -h .
[23:37] <ryanakca> WaltzingAlong: thanks :)
[23:37] <Schuenemann> WaltzingAlong, can I check that graphically too, as I can with my other partitions?
[23:37] <BloodyTux> John117: It's me.. Muahahahaha. I agree with stdin, it might be that a program you installed unchecked them.
[23:37] <John117> stdin I did install with no network connection.. it took me 2 days to get the network working.. holy crap this is so complicated..  no such thing as plug and play with ubuntu. LOL
[23:37] <seriekrock> yo
[23:37] <BloodyTux> XD
[23:37] <edenbeast> vbgunz what kind of devices are you talking about? usb-keys and such?
[23:38] <Dr_willis_> John117,  i found it all plug and play.
[23:38] <BloodyTux> You're just realizing this John?
[23:38] <vbgunz> edenbeast: yes
[23:38] <niosop> Anyone gotten a (K)ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 machine to join an ADS domain?
[23:38] <John117> dr_willis_ i wish..  from my atheros wirless card to my ati video card.  NOTHING has worked out of the box.
[23:38] <edenbeast> vbgunz then adapting /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi may do the trick
[23:38] <Dr_willis_> Pluged in a scanner today and it saw it right off. no drivers needed at all. same for my 3 printers. :)
[23:38] <edenbeast> vbgunz look for
[23:38] <edenbeast> vbgunz vfat or something, 1 sec
[23:38] <stdin> John117: if you install with no network connection it disabled the network repositories, or it would try to connect to a non-existent network and fail
[23:38] <Dr_willis_> John117,  blame ati , and the wiureless card makers for their lousy linux support.
[23:39] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong so now that I have regenrated a source.list.. should I delete the old one.. and rename and save the new one in /etc/apr/???
[23:39] <Dr_willis_> ati is promising to get better.. but so far.. nothing
[23:39] <WaltzingAlong> Schuenemann: without the . you will see them all. to see that graphically? right mouse clicking on a folder in konqueror should do it on the properties tab
[23:39] <John117> okay.. well the last command is done.. gotta go for now though..  be back later.
[23:39] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: sure you could do that
[23:39] <my> hmm something is wrong with kopete and hotmail accounts
[23:39] <dvayanu> waltzingalong: thanx once more
[23:39] <John117> thanks fo ryour help all!  i'll either learn this ubuntu shit or die trying.
[23:39] <Sanne> John117: linux distros usually don't have the "persuasive" power to make hardware vendors support their platform like a certain other company has.
[23:39] <edenbeast> vbgunz: starting with <match key="volume.fstype" string="vfat">   there you'll have to add something that places it with a specific group  but I don't remember immediately what
[23:39] <vbgunz> edenbeast: thank you for your help
[23:39] <WaltzingAlong> not yet
[23:40] <stdin> *if* people have some patience and ask for help, then the'll get answers
[23:40] <Dr_willis_> heck MS even charges companies to get a 'ms certified badge' :)
[23:40] <niosop> No-one has their (K)Ubuntu machine joined as a member server to an ADS domain?
[23:40] <ubuntu_> has any one here used gentoo?
[23:40] <Dr_willis_> I used gentoo ages ago.
[23:40] <seriekrock> anyone can help me with flash and java, i have 64 bit system
[23:40] <Schuenemann> WaltzingAlong, hmmm, ok... thanks
[23:40] <niosop> ubuntu_ I used to use it all the time
[23:40] <stdin> !flash64
[23:40] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[23:40] <ubuntu_> niosop mat  i im u?
[23:40] <niosop> sure
[23:40] <seriekrock> but im using konqueror
[23:41] <WaltzingAlong> Schuenemann: but that shows one at a time, not sure of a way in kubuntu to get it to show all together. a nice 'all in one' sys info screen seems desirable
[23:41] <stdin> seriekrock: as far as I know, it needs to be firefox to work
[23:42] <bascule> can koqueror use java at all, I have never had it work
[23:42] <carwash^> bas
[23:42] <carwash^> should work
[23:42] <carwash^> set java path inpreferences
[23:42] <dvayanu> To continue, type the phrase "I am aware that this is a very bad idea":
[23:42] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: sure the trick for me has been to specify the location of java (like opera needs)
[23:42] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong I cant delet that file.. it sais that I dont have access to do that
[23:42] <dvayanu> The following ESSENTIAL packages will be REMOVED! util-linux
[23:42] <dvayanu> i'm scared now
[23:43] <BrightEyes`> what does "The mount point '/media/hda3' is already occupied" mean?
[23:43] <bascule> WaltzingAlong: ok, which java the output of that?
[23:43] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: alright edit it, replacing the entire contents with the sources from source-o-matic                   to open it again, alt+f2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:44] <WaltzingAlong> dvayanu: so the decision is?? drumroll? what were you doing that asked to remove that package?
[23:44] <dvayanu> install linux32
[23:44] <IkeKrull> anyone know how i disable dolphin, and just use konqueror for filesystem urls on kubuntu 7.10?
[23:44] <dvayanu> from the flash in firefox on amd64 article
[23:44] <vbgunz> I need a little help on making devices read only for my son. I am a bit lost :(
[23:44] <WaltzingAlong> IkeKrull: yes
[23:44] <aspirin_on_kubun> how i set the command nvidia-settings --load-config-only" at startup of kde
[23:45] <andreas> BrightEyes`: apparently, there is already somethin mounted at thes place. Where do you get this message?
[23:45] <IkeKrull> WaltzingAlong: would you be willing to share this information?
[23:45] <WaltzingAlong> IkeKrull: http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but with konqueror instead of dolphin
[23:45] <Oakbox> BrightEyes`: i think it means that you have something mounted to /media/hda3 already...
[23:45] <IkeKrull> ah right, cool
[23:45] <IkeKrull> thanks
[23:46] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong: it stil don't work.. it wont change the content
[23:46] <carwash^> any eta on a kopete-fix?
[23:46] <bascule> WaltzingAlong: it worked, I have konqueror java :)/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[23:46] <bascule> dunni why i pasted that total mistake ...
[23:46] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: :D
[23:46] <BrightEyes`> andreas: in the /media/ folder
[23:47] <vbgunz> be right back, I think I may have fixed the issue but only really see when I reboot
[23:47] <Oakbox> if i install compiz and something goes wrong is there and easy way to get rid of it again... only last time i tried i ended up reinstalling
[23:48] <Oakbox> carwash^: what kopete-fix?
[23:48] <carwash^> Oakbox: it crashes on connection to msn
[23:48] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500 and toward the bottom are downloads (the updates will be available in the normal repositories when they have been thawed)
[23:49] <Oakbox> carwash^: WaltzingAlong is too quick for me again
[23:49] <carwash^> :P shipping 7.10 with this bug is huge :(
[23:49] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong now it works.. the name wasn't sourse.. it was sourses.. so now it worked :P thanks fo the help :P  while I am on it.. what does kate do?
[23:50] <bascule> edits texy
[23:50] <bascule> text
[23:50] <bascule> tex
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  compiz should be rather easy to disable.
[23:50] <andreas> vbgunz: if they are whole partitions, you can mount them with ro (read only) in /etc/fstab (instead of defult), otherwise, chown the whole thing to root and chmod -R 71
[23:50] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: kate is a (line) text editor
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[23:51] <andreas> vbgunz: aä, chmod -R 744 ./* in the base directory
[23:51] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  thers a setting file you can make that will stop it from running also. (i forget where that is however) :)
[23:51] <BrightEyes`> im asking questions all day and noone helped me
[23:51] <niosop> Anyone been able to join ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 as an ADS member server using net ads join and not net rpc join?
[23:51] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong okej... big thanks for the help.. only one more thing that I have a problem with.. my wireless keps diable itsel.. can I stop that somehow?
[23:52] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: ta for that, i just dont know if i should attempt it again :D
[23:52] <tysonsw> disable*
[23:52] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: should be able to do so. check !wifi to see about configuring it
[23:52] <andreas> BrightEyes`: console at sudo mount? If yes, i assume the spot is already occupied
[23:52] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  how it stands now. To enable compiz with kde. you must make an 'Autostart' entry for it.
[23:52] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  or manually start it.
[23:53] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong does not work..
[23:53] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi | tysonsw
[23:53] <ubotu> tysonsw: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:53] <BrightEyes`> andreas: i want to configure my grub to boot windows.i was using kubuntu for 6 months now and i decided to install windows again.i installed it then somehow installed grub again but there were no entries for windows.what can i do
[23:53] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: sorry not that savy whats an Autostart :S
[23:53] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  .kde/Autostart
[23:53] <WaltzingAlong> Oakbox: ~/.kde/Autostart
[23:53] <Oakbox> thank will have a look :)
[23:53] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  just a directory of commands/scripts that get ran at login
[23:54] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  proberly better to just manually start compiz Untill you decide if you like it
[23:54] <WaltzingAlong> !grub | BrightEyes`
[23:54] <ubotu> BrightEyes`: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:54] <NickPresta> Oakbox: alternately, you can install compiz-fusion-icon and symlink that to ~/.kde/Autostart. That will start up the system tray icon which allows you to switch decorators, etc
[23:54] <BrightEyes`> WaltzingAlong: i tried that thing with the live cd. IT DOESNT WORK!
[23:54] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  if your windows install was on hda1 (first HD, first partition) therens an example grub menu entry commented out in the menu.lst you can just uncomment it.
[23:54] <Oakbox> aah too much to take in hehe.
[23:55] <BrightEyes`> WaltzingAlong: how many times should i try those things
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> !info compiz-fusion-icon
[23:55] <ubotu> Package compiz-fusion-icon does not exist in gutsy
[23:55] <Linux_Galore> anyone got the link for the CD cover artwork for Kubuntu Gutsy, Im running of a batch of CD/DVD's
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> !find fusion
[23:55] <pillowpants> how has gutsy been coming along
[23:55] <ubotu> Found: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-fusion-plugins-main, libfusionsound-0.9-25, libfusionsound-dev, libfusionsound-doc
[23:55] <BrightEyes`> Dr_willis_:  windows is on hda3 (hd0,2)
[23:55] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: ask google 'boot to windows from grub' or something similar
[23:55] <pillowpants> is it more or less safe to upgrade?
[23:55] <pillowpants> has the dust settled?
[23:55] <werty> hi there...
[23:56] <Linux_Galore> the local update server here in AU are still very sluggish
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  then uncomment the example and change that  hd0,0 to be hd0,2 HOWEVER - windows may not like not being on the drive
[23:56] <werty> how can i download IPTraf?
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  ive had issues with windows when its not on the first partition.
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> !find iptraf
[23:56] <ubotu> Found: iptraf
[23:56] <NickPresta> Dr_willis_: I believe I got CF-icon from getdeb.com or from the forums.
[23:56] <andreas> BrightEyes`: then you dont have to mount yout windows partition but have to edit grub.conf. See links given by others.
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> !info iptraf
[23:56] <ubotu> iptraf: Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0-4 (gutsy), package size 162 kB, installed size 744 kB
[23:56] <Linux_Galore> !artwork
[23:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:56] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: but you can use grub to fake windows into thinking it is the first partition on the first drive
[23:57] <Dr_willis_> werty,  fire up the package manager and install it? :)
[23:57] <BrightEyes`> WaltzingAlong: how can i do that
[23:57] <sdlnxgk> anyone using KDE 3.5 ???
[23:57] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: ask google 'boot to windows from grub' or something similar
[23:57] <Dr_willis_> WaltzingAlong,  can you swap partitions that way? or just Drives.. :)  i forget - had to do that ages ago.. so i make SURE i dont have to any more
[23:57] <poty> how can I configure my widescreen monitor on Kubuntu 7.04 feisty ¿?
[23:57] <poty> how can I configure my widescreen monitor on Kubuntu 7.04 feisty ¿?
[23:57] <sdlnxgk> how do you view sysinfo in Konqueror??
[23:57] <Dr_willis_> !fixres
[23:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:58] <sdlnxgk> poty I use a program called envy and works awesome for my 24" wide screen running SLI mode
[23:58] <Tm_T> sdlnxgk: sysinfo:/ ?
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> !envy
[23:58] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[23:58] <Dr_willis_> envy is a bad idea....
[23:58] <sdlnxgk> Tm_T, I tried that but says malformed url
[23:58] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: thanks
[23:58] <BrightEyes`> how can i remove the boot loader from MBR ?
[23:58] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis,  why is envy a bad idea??
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: NP :)
[23:59] <poty> why a bad idea ¿?
[23:59] <Tm_T> sdlnxgk: then something else :p
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> sdlnxgk,  like the bot said.. it can break your system badly
[23:59] <WaltzingAlong> no it has to do with chainloading and hiding others
[23:59] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, if you use the wrong version yes I can see that
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> sdlnxgk,  had to fix a guys sytem at work the other day when he used envy
[23:59] <sdlnxgk> never have  a problem running it
[23:59] <poty> anybody a link to a  envy donwload
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> then he ended up doing a clean install..
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> sdlnxgk,  you are in the minority then.
[23:59] <Linux_Galore> grrr cant seem to find the Kubuntu 7.10 artwork