[00:29] <KillerKiwi2005> Hi, ive found i need to use nvtv to set my overscan for tv out... where is the best place to add this line so it happens at login?
[00:31] <KillerKiwi2005> ?
[00:31] <KillerKiwi2005> anyone?
[00:33] <solarbaby> I'd like to hear the answer to that myself
[00:34] <KillerKiwi2005> lol
[00:34] <solarbaby> If I were running a full Ubuntu Desktop theres a program called Sessions in the start menu and I'd use that.. but since Im not running Ubuntu Desktop I have no idea
[00:36] <DaveMorris> http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session might do the job
[00:36] <DaveMorris> might need installing as well
[00:36] <solarbaby> Thanks Dave
[00:38] <KillerKiwi2005> .... dont think that does it.... i need to run a custom command
[00:40] <solarbaby> Yeah it seems kinda up in the air there..  Im not sure if it just remembers stuff you have already loaded up or not
[00:40] <solarbaby> I wouldn't trust it
[00:41] <KillerKiwi2005> auch a common thing...
[00:41] <KillerKiwi2005> such
[00:42] <KillerKiwi2005> its the last thing i need todo as well :(
[00:42] <DaveMorris> does the command need to be run on login or start up?
[00:42] <DaveMorris> whats the command, and poke superm1 when his back
[00:43] <DaveMorris> I need to goto bed before my g/f its me again
[00:43] <KillerKiwi2005> its just nvtv to set overscan for tv out
[00:44] <KillerKiwi2005> nvtv -t -s Huge
[00:45] <solarbaby> KillerKiwi: this looks like the right place right here /home/solarbaby/.cache/xfce4/desktop# /home/user/.cache/xfce4/desktop/menu-cache--etc-xdg-mythbuntu-xfce4-desktop-menu.xml.rc
[00:46] <KillerKiwi2005> ...
[00:52] <therethinker> Wow, I was slow...
[00:52] <therethinker> I need a second bot to detect when mythbot dies, and recessitates him...
[00:53] <therethinker> thats not a bad idea... but just... stupid
[01:25] <solarbaby> Im currently running in xfce and it is nice and fast, Im considering downloading gnome, but lets say I wanna switch back and forth.. can I do that in a matter of seconds?  would mythtv be effected by switching back and forth?
[01:29] <tgm4883_laptop> well you could if you had different user names
[01:37] <williammanda_> if i install mythtv from synaptic... is it any different from mythbuntu?
[01:41] <tgm4883_laptop> you won't have the artwork
[01:41] <tgm4883_laptop> but the preferred way to install from gutsy is to install mcc
[01:43] <packetgod> I'm very happy with Mythbuntu so far, great stuff.  Got all my systems moved over from mythdora and everything is working well.
[01:45] <packetgod> My frontend is still on the beta, anyone see any reason to upgrade it once the final version is released if all is working well?
[01:46] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[02:11] <williammanda_> ANYONE AWAKE?
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[02:12] <williammanda_> where can I get instructions to install mythtv for 7.10
[02:13] <tgm4883_laptop> $guide
[02:13] <mythbot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[02:15] <williammanda_> synaptic mythtv install is different
[02:15] <tgm4883_laptop> oh?
[02:17] <tgm4883_laptop> how so?
[02:20] <williammanda_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop
[02:21] <williammanda_> the setup is not the same as the url
[02:22] <williammanda_> i just installed 7.10 and mythtv through synaptic
[02:23] <tgm4883_laptop> well yea
[02:23] <tgm4883_laptop> thats because you can now click and install things
[02:23] <tgm4883_laptop> apt protocol i thing
[02:23] <tgm4883_laptop> think
[02:23] <williammanda_> not the same as the url
[02:24] <tgm4883_laptop> well yea, because you installed mythtv though synaptic, not MCC
[02:24] <tgm4883_laptop> $mcc
[02:24] <mythbot> Mythbuntu Control Centre - a admin panel for MythTV - Created and maintained by the mythbuntu team. http://www.mythbuntu.org/about
[02:25] <tgm4883_laptop> are you telling me that following the guide from start to finish is not possible?
[02:26] <Suggley> if thats the install mythtv on the ubuntu site - i agree i tried it 1000 times - i ended up installin mythbuntu
[02:26] <Suggley> Hi guys - i been looking to find a way to make the music section show like the video section (ie in folders) and havent been able to find a thing - does anythign exist to make it so?
[02:27] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure
[02:27] <tgm4883_laptop> although i would like to know whats wrong with the guide
[02:27] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm not saying it's perfect, but I can't fix it if I don't know whats wrong
[02:28] <Suggley> i am not specificly sure - i am a bit of a linux noob
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> thats the point
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> where did you go wrong?
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> the guide is not for mythtv experts
[02:28] <Suggley> i tried so many times and i got to where to add capture devices - and it wouldnt add a thing
[02:29] <Suggley> it could see teh 2 capture cards (sometimes - other times it renamed them) and i t just wouldnt add them to the list
[02:29] <Suggley> i would be interested to try again on another hdd now i know a little more
[02:29] <Suggley> i think it could have been the fireware - but i only really learnt about it after i installed mythbuntu
[02:30] <KillerKiwi2005> ARGGG nvtv in gutsy segfaults
[02:30] <Suggley> i like the gnome desktop - but now once i log into the gnome desktop in Mythbuntu - and go to play a video - i get no responce from the keyboard
[02:34] <tgm4883_laptop> it may have been the firewire, do you have it working now though?
[02:35] <Suggley> firewire?
[02:35] <Suggley> i just went back to xfce
[02:35] <Suggley> if we are still talkin keyboard inactivity
[02:38] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[02:39] <tgm4883_laptop> you said that the firewire might have been messing up the guide, or did i misunderstand
[02:39] <Suggley> nah misunderstood
[02:39] <Suggley> fireware
[02:39] <Suggley> for the DTV card
[02:40] <KillerKiwi2005> yay it worked....
[02:40] <KillerKiwi2005> which script calls mythfrontend ?
[02:41] <KillerKiwi2005> actully nvtv needs root so I think I need it in the xsession...
[02:43] <gib> How are is on screen color correction supposed to work with Xv controls enabled.  I can bring them up and toggle through the settings, but when I try to adjust the adjustment bars that pop up by using either the forward or back arrows it just changes to color/hue/ect.  -1% in place of the bar.
[02:47] <gib> The adjustment boxes pop up fine with the F key, they just don't adjust--except for volume.
[02:50] <KillerKiwi2005> hmmm /usr/share/myhtbuntu/xsession.sh looks like a good place
[02:51] <solarbaby> packetgod: I love UbuntuMyth is much it exhausts me
[02:52] <gib> Tweaking it could be a full time occupation :)
[02:53] <solarbaby> gib: agreed
[02:53] <gib> So, do on-screen color adjustments work for you guys?
[02:54] <solarbaby> I've never tried them..  sounded like something I didn't want to tweak
[02:54] <gib> Toggling F-Key to bring up different color adjustments, and <- -> to adjust bars?
[02:54] <KillerKiwi2005> ok so how do I add a module option at boot time?
[02:55] <gib> Well, my recordings are coming out too dark.
[02:55] <gib> Is there another way to adjust the recordings?
[02:55] <solarbaby> KillerKiwi: your out of my league pal
[02:55] <KillerKiwi2005> solarbaby: :)
[02:57] <gib> Also, I have another server for other things that's idle much of the time.  What's the best way to go about helping with transcoding, but not doing anything else--neither playing, nor recording, nor storing--not lending it's cpu to help with the transcode job log?
[02:59] <gib> Oh, and are there other kind of filters other than noise and deinterlace filters, such as color-correction filters.  I having found anything like that googling.
[02:59] <gib> Somehow or another, I need to adjust the color of my recordings.
[03:54] <solarbaby> Isn't there supposed to be a new Ubuntu Install coming out soon?
[03:54] <solarbaby> Next week maybe?  just trying to figure when I should get ready to install
[03:55] <tgm4883_laptop> no?
[03:55] <tgm4883_laptop> new Ubuntu Install?
[03:55] <solarbaby> Yeah..  I read something about a New Version in the works, soon?
[03:56] <tgm4883_laptop> well alpha 1 of hardy comes out in november
[03:56] <tgm4883_laptop> nov 29th
[03:56] <solarbaby> Ah November it is
[03:56] <solarbaby> Oh thats like December
[03:56] <solarbaby> hehe
[03:56] <solarbaby> I'll be a whole year older by then
[03:57] <solarbaby> I guess I wont wait that long..  and install what I have now
[03:57] <solarbaby> fix it later
[03:58] <solarbaby> I feel impatient..  I wanting to play around with Gnomb, but Kubuntu is working out so nice on my Myth Server I haven't wanted to mess with it
[03:59] <solarbaby> I suppose I can just use both on the same computer so if thats the case, no big deal..
[04:00] <solarbaby> I have a feeling Myth Servers should always be running a speedy Desktop Envirement
[06:35] <frank_> i have horizontal bars of crap when i watch recordings in gutsy. i have a nvidia fx 5500 card. anybody else see this. it's like slight static in the video
[06:37] <frank_> too tired tonight. good night
[08:17] <Varka> hi
[08:19] <Varka> im trying to access mythweb with my configured username and password but i get "database access denied" all the time. what or where do i have to do additional configuration?
[08:19] <gib> frank_, did you try applying a noise filter?
[08:20] <Varka> im using mythbuntu 7.10 rc and configured it only with its configurationtools and setuproutines by now
[08:22] <gib> I haven't tried mythweb yet, but I assume it wants the backends sqlserver password, not you mybuntu login password.  Is that what you're giving it?
[08:23] <Varka> gib: i gave the same username and pw to both
[08:23] <Varka> gib: maybe i did something wrong configuring those logins, how can change them?
[08:24] <gib> Oh, so you aren't using the autogenerated one, or using mythtv as you sqlserver login?
[08:24] <gib> My guess would be that your regular name is not in the sql server.
[08:25] <gib> You can always run backend setup again.
[08:26] <gib> Or run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common."
[08:26] <Varka> gib: hm, and the mysqldatabaselogin is done in the backend setup?
[08:27] <gib> The backend setup is where it takes the values to use for setting up a sql db.
[08:29] <Varka> gib: the strange thing is, if im using another user/pw combination than the one i configured i get a new empty logindialog but if i use the one i configured i get that "database access denied" page
[08:30] <Varka> gib: could it be that im login in but have not the rights to use mythweb by now?
[08:31] <Varka> gib: You are most likely receiving this message because you
[08:31] <Varka> have failed to configure mythweb's database login info.
[08:31] <Varka> Please see .htaccess for instructions.
[08:33] <gib> Can you access that backend from other workstations using the regular front end interface?
[08:33] <Varka> gib: what would be the URL for the regular frontend?
[08:34] <Varka> gib: sry, now i know what you mean
[08:34] <Varka> gib: well i dont know as i dont have frontends installed on my other workstations by now
[08:35] <gib> The regular front end assesses that backend sql-sever directly, not via the backend webserver, but it will tell you if the problem is with your sql-server login in general, or a problem with the web server accessing the sql-database
[08:36] <Varka> well, using gutsy fresh install here, what would i have to install to have a working frontend to test that?
[08:36] <gib> Just the mythtv frontend package.
[08:37] <Varka> ok, installing..
[08:37] <gib> When you install it just replace localhost with the ip of your backend server and the username with your backend servers sql username, and password.
[08:38] <gib> And make sure you don't have sql-server access firewalled off on the backend.
[08:39] <Varka>  If you are adding this machine to an existing mythtv-network, you will want to update this password to the one in use by the network after completing installation.
[08:40] <Varka> should i change the pw already to the on i gave the backend?
[08:40] <gib> Yes
[08:40] <gib> and the username, and change localhost to the other machines IP
[08:41] <Varka> all that by running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common    right?
[08:42] <gib> That's one way.
[08:42] <Varka> lol, it says, mythtv-common ist not installed oO
[08:43] <gib> You can also go into util/setup general and change it.
[08:44] <gib> Did you launch myth front end?
[08:44] <Varka> not yet, i have to relogin, brb
[08:44] <gib> If so, just go into setup/general and make the changes there.
[08:47] <gib> You installed mythtv-frontend and it didn't automatically pull mythtv-common in as a dep?
[08:47] <Varka> gib: well it did, but the dpkg-reconfigure command says its not installed
[08:48] <Varka> i started the frontend for testing an was prompted to fill in the login and host, did it but could not connect to my backend
[08:48] <gib> Oh.  Just run mythtv-frontend, go to util/setup -> general and make the changes there.
[08:49] <Varka> so i think the problem lies still at the backend
[08:49] <gib> Seem like the username your using really wasn't added as a sql-server user.
[08:49] <gib> you're
[08:50] <Varka> ok, now, what command to use to configure that at the backend again please?
[08:51] <gib> Just run the backend setup program
[08:51] <Varka> gib: did that already, 3 times, and changed user and pw, but no success
[08:52] <gib> Why not try sticking with the defaults then.
[08:53] <gib> If you use mythtv you won't have to wonder if it got added right.
[08:53] <gib> and use the default password too.
[08:54] <Varka> first i dont know the defaults, second im sure i changed them, third the backend is exposed to the www
[08:55] <gib> It says it generates the password randomly, but it doesn't say if you change it it will change it on the backend, only that if you already have another server you want to access you should use it's password.
[08:56] <Varka> sure, sure, but what use would the randomly on the frontend of another workstation generated pw have accessing my backend on the server
[08:56] <gib> I assume you don't have to use port 80, nor have the port you choose open to the Internet.
[08:58] <Varka> well, im pretty sure now, that username and pw are correct, at backend and frontend. at least for the mythweb, but it seems the problem lies beneath
[08:58] <gib> I think just entering a different password into front-end setup doesn't change you pw in sql server.
[08:59] <gib> It's asking you what it IS, not what you'd like to change it too.
[08:59] <gib> to
[09:00] <Varka> sure it doesnt, but i changed the pw with the settings-gui form mythbuntu again and now also a Xth time with sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb
[09:01] <Varka> on the backend
[09:01] <gib> Then again, I'm sleepy, and no expert in this area.  I'm just pretty sure that it would be a whole lot easier to go with the default and verify that everything is working, and then change them later if you like.
[09:02] <Varka> maybe, but thats too late, as i changed the defaults already...
[09:02] <Varka> but thank you anyway for your patience
[09:03] <gib> The default password is randomly generated, so I'm not sure why it would be less secure they one you choose yourself.
[09:04] <Varka> the installationprocedure of mythbuntu doesnt tell me anything about a randomly generated pw, how could i know
[09:04] <gib> That's OK.  I'm sure there are a lot of people more qualified to help you out, but I seem to be the only one up at the moment.  :)
[09:04] <gib> Good luck.
[09:04] <Varka> in fact it forces me to type in a personal logindata
[09:05] <Varka> yeah, well, its saturday morning .. ;)
[09:05] <gib> Are you running a webserver for other than internal use?
[09:06] <Varka> not yet, but i want to
[09:06] <gib> You have a static IP?
[09:06] <Varka> no
[09:07] <Varka> but theres dyndns and stuff
[09:07] <gib> Yeah.
[09:08] <gib> Your upload speed is probably way low though.
[09:08] <gib> What kind of connection do you have?
[09:08] <Varka> well, i had a gallery running on that server for about 5 month and want to set it back up when mythtv runs properl
[09:08] <Varka> +y
[09:08] <Varka> 16mbit down 1mbit up
[09:09] <gib> Wow, that 's good.  It's cable?
[09:09] <Varka> dsl2+
[09:09] <gib> What do you pay a month for that?
[09:10] <Varka> with phoneflat and lower mobile call prices 49,- euro per month
[09:10] <gib> Sounds like a great deal.  What country?
[09:11] <Varka> well, there are cheaper ones, but less reliable and with p2p-ports shaped
[09:11] <Varka> germany
[09:11] <Varka> and you?
[09:12] <gib> US
[09:12] <Varka> and there are no cheaper providers in the us? cant believe that
[09:13] <gib> The dollars been dropping like a rock.  Good thing I moved money into euro-based bonds.
[09:14] <Varka> in fact i heard that there are regions where you get your highspeed internet with you flat or house at a time for almost nothing
[09:14] <gib> Well, monopoly and no-regulation are the names of the game here now, so consumers get screwed.
[09:14] <Varka> so aol is the monopolist?
[09:15] <gib> Well, most people have cable tv, but you pretty much are stuck with the cable provider who services your area, so they just keep jacking up the price.
[09:15] <Varka> and phonebased internet?
[09:16] <Varka> not available? to slow? to expensive?
[09:16] <Varka> too
[09:16] <gib> You can get dsl, but I don't think tv over the phone is too common, so you still have to deal with that.
[09:17] <Varka> hm, sad
[09:17] <Varka> for about 70 euro you can get 25mbit here in most bigger towns
[09:17] <gib> If you get PO'd at your cable provider you have to get sat tv.
[09:18] <gib> The dollar is dropping so fast against the euro that American won't be able to afford to travel to europe.
[09:18] <Varka> well, i prefer sat-tv as you have now additional costs per month and more channels and the signal bandwith is much higher with 4 to 8 mbit compared to 2 mbit on cable as it is here
[09:19] <Varka> now=no
[09:19] <gib> We have a raving lunitic borrowing money like mad from China to flush down the Iraq toliet.
[09:19] <gib> It's little wonder the dollar is dropping.
[09:20] <Varka> hehe, i wont continue the discussion in that direction as i would take ages to tell you what i think about us politics ^^
[09:20] <gib> It'd pretty f'd up, that's for sure.
[09:21] <gib> I guess being from Germany, you know a thing or two about fascism.  The so-called neo-cons is charge are pretty much neo-fascists.
[09:23] <Varka> sure, but germans are the one to be blamed all the time, as if we are the only ones that killed other people to get more land, money, slaves or whatever in the past...
[09:23] <Varka> no word about the black people, the native americans...
[09:24] <Varka> and the are opressing them on to the present day
[09:25] <Varka> but we are the bad ones for eternity
[09:25] <gib> Well, GW's Grandpa was a nazi.  No one ever talks about that.  There are about 30% of people in every country that are just strongly drawn to authoritrianism, it's certainly not unique to Germany.
[09:26] <gib> The US is one of the most right-wing countries in the world at this time.
[09:26] <Varka> thats right, in fact, a lot of nacism went to other countrys as the second ww ended
[09:26] <gib> Or at least the current "leadership."
[09:27] <gib> He wasn't a nazi proper, but a good bubby trading partner sympathizer.
[09:28] <gib> And his family are still strong believers in athoritarianism.
[09:29] <Varka> as the majority of them is, and thats the more dangerous group as they are intelligent and not only blind followers that want to take part in a strong group
[09:29] <tritium> Please stay on topic.
[09:29] <Varka> but i have to quit conversation now, as i really want to get my mythbuntu working
[09:29] <gib> Well, GW is a dipshit, but not the ones pulling his strings.
[09:29] <Varka> tritium: yeah sry
[09:30] <tritium> thanks, Varka :)
[09:30] <Varka> tritium: maybe you can help me setting up my mythweb?
[09:30] <tritium> Varka: perhaps.  I've set it up on feisty.  What's up?
[09:31] <tritium> (and edgy)
[09:31] <Varka> tritium: well im running mythbuntu 7.10 rc, by now i set it up using only the nomal setuproutines and frontends. now i want to connect to the mythweb gui to edit my channels
[09:32] <Varka> tritium: i used username and pw all the same at every point the setup asked me to fill in any
[09:32] <tritium> I'm not sure how mythbuntu goes about setting it up.  I've always installed the mythweb package manually.
[09:32] <Varka> tritium: it does
[09:32] <gib> Goodnight, and good luck.  I should have gone to bed a long time ago.
[09:33] <Varka> tritium: trying to access mythweb with http://localhost/mythweb or remotely from another host i get "database access denied" if i fill in the username and pw i configured
[09:33] <Varka> tritium: but if i fill in another one i get another empty login dialog
[09:34] <Varka> so i think the username and pw for mythweb is right but i dont have the right to access the database with it
[09:34] <Varka> any ideas?
[09:34] <tritium> Varka: not sure what mythbuntu is doing there.  I had to restrict access, as it was open to the world after installing the package.
[09:34] <Varka> i did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb" already and reentered the username and pw
[09:35] <Varka> tritium: where could i have a look now? what could be restricted?
[09:35] <Varka> tritium: i think its the mysql-database beneath that doesnt let me connect
[09:36] <tritium> Varka: not sure.  I've not tried mythbuntu yet.  I'm waiting for it to be released.
[09:36] <Varka> tritium: but it uses the same backendprograms like you installed manually
[09:36] <tritium> Varka: I had to create a .htdigest file to restrict access.
[09:36] <tritium> Varka: yes, but it's setting up access differently
[09:37] <Varka> tritium: where do i find that file if it exists? and if it doesnt, what other file could restrict access?
[09:37] <tritium> Varka: it doesn't exist.  I had to create it in /var/www/mythweb
[09:37] <Varka> let me see if it exists on my setup
[09:38] <tritium> Varka: also, check your /var/www/mythweb/.htaccess (symlink to /etc/mythtv/mythweb-htaccess)
[09:39] <Varka> yes, there is no .htdigest but the .htaccess and .htaccess.dist
[09:40] <tritium> Varka: correct.  I created the .htdigest
[09:43] <Varka> tritium: ok, there was another randonly generated login in the .htaccess. i filled in the one i gave mythbuntu while installing it. restarting now. maybe thats all
[09:43] <tritium> Varka: hopefully so
[09:44] <Varka> no, no success
[09:44] <tritium> Not sure, then.
[09:45] <Varka> could it be something with the userrights or so?
[09:47] <tritium> Don't know.
[10:03] <Varka> ok
[10:03] <Varka> i make a cleaninstall now
[10:04] <Varka> tritium: are you there for a while to ask you if problems occur?
[10:04] <tritium> Varka: I'm sorry.  It's 3 a.m. here.  I need to go to bed.
[10:04] <Varka> oh, sry, its 11at here ;)
[10:04] <Varka> am
[10:04] <tritium> Good luck :)
[10:05] <Varka> tritium: so sleep well and good night
[10:05] <Varka> thx
[10:05] <tritium> Have a good day!
[11:15] <KillerKiwi2005> I used mythbuntu control centre but i cant access via vnc / or through a myth frontend......
[11:16] <KillerKiwi2005> also mythweb does "MasterServerIP or MasterServerPort not found! You mayneed to check your settings.php file or re-run mythtv-setup"
[11:37] <stevetv> hi there.  can i ask what is an appropriate way to rename video files?  i don't want to jsut rename them via a terminal... as im guessing it'll break my database???
[11:37] <DaveMorris> stevetv: not that I know off
[11:38] <stevetv> not that you know of an appropriate way to rename files, or not that you know of will break a database :P?
[11:51] <Varka> heureka, my mythbuntu rocks 8)
[14:05] <MythbuntuGuest18> anyone there?
[14:05] <MythbuntuGuest18> need help gettin my kde back
[14:08] <MythbuntuGuest80> quiet in here ...
[14:17] <MythbuntuGuest80> hi there?
[14:34] <MythbuntuGuest80> mist hier
[15:08] <Varka> hi MythbuntuGuest80
[15:10] <Daviey> He's on a blog roll this week...
[15:15] <Daviey> hmm.. wrong channel - doh
[15:31] <therethinker> $mythbot
[15:44] <Varka> i cant change keybindings neither from within the frontend nor from mythweb. well i can change them, and they remain changed in the menu but in fact the dont change at the keyboard
[15:44] <Varka> any suggestions?
[16:05] <w00tzilla> Hi.  Does anyone know if an ATI 7500 All in Wonder card is supported?
[16:06] <tgm4883> w00tzilla, supported for capture, playback or both?
[16:33] <williammanda_> hey guys
[16:34] <williammanda_> I can't get mythbuntu to work.....it will install but the control center will not come up
[16:34] <tgm4883> williammanda_, 64-bit?
[16:34] <williammanda_> yes
[16:34] <tgm4883> yep
[16:34] <tgm4883> sec
[16:35] <tgm4883> theres a minor bug in it for 64-bit, i'm not sure if the fix has been pushed to updates yet, but it is in the ppa, and you can download the deb too
[16:36] <tgm4883> sec, let me get the link
[16:37] <tgm4883> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3565709&postcount=2
[16:37] <williammanda_> I went back and uninstalled mythbuntu...and installed mythtv through synapic....
[16:37] <tgm4883> well the only issue that the bug affects is the opening of MCC
[16:38] <tgm4883> and it's only if the medibuntu repo isn't in your sources.list
[16:38] <zerodamage> Can anyone tell me if the ATI 7500 AIW cards are supported in any way?
[16:38] <williammanda_> and I am having a problem getting past the mythtv-setup....i get the 3 blue screens...then it kicks me out to the desktop
[16:39] <tgm4883> zerodamage/w00tzilla, does it work in gutsy?  Are you trying to capture?
[16:39] <tgm4883> williammanda_, error messages?
[16:40] <williammanda_> i will need to do it in terminal
[16:40] <zerodamage> tgm4883:  The card's basic 3d and what not are detected since compiz-fusion worked out of the box.  I am not finding a way to enable tv capture.   I installed mythbuntu after the fact without any issues.
[16:43] <tgm4883> zerodamage, looks like you can only watch live TV, but no recording.  This is as of march this year
[16:44] <tgm4883> err may
[16:45] <tgm4883> zerodamage, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_All-in-Wonder_HowTo_(English)   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2358169
[16:45] <tgm4883> i'm not sure if any progress has been made in gutsy
[16:45] <zerodamage> tgm4883:  I am new to mythtv; how do I go about watching tv?  I do not see anything that says "watch tv" or anything similar to that.
[16:45] <tgm4883> or if it's any better due to the better ati drivers
[16:46] <tgm4883> zerodamage, see both links i provided you
[16:48] <zerodamage> thx, that's all I needed to know.  I will hit up bestbuy later for a pvr 150
[16:48] <stoth> hey folks
[16:48] <tgm4883> zerodamage, good call, great card
[16:49] <tgm4883> $ask
[16:49] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:49] <stoth> I'm a linuxtv dev, who's only recently tried to bring up mythtv on a spare box. I have some issues with the guide/channel association. Is anyone free to discuss?
[16:50] <zerodamage> the pvr 150 is hardware encoding right?  my system here isn't a dual core beast which is common place these days. lol
[16:50] <tgm4883> yes
[16:50] <zerodamage> cool.  thx fellas.  peace
[16:50] <tgm4883> stoth, i have a little bit
[16:50] <tgm4883> then it's release party time :)
[16:51] <stoth> tgm4883: Thanks. I'm running it in the US with  QAM source. All the channels are channel (and are playing), and I've downloaded a guide from datadirect. But the guide shows 'Unknown' for all guide content..... Kinda like I need to associate my digital QAM channels to the specific DD schedule channels.
[16:52] <tgm4883> you mean SchedulesDirect?
[16:52] <stoth> y
[16:52] <tgm4883> did you scan for channels, or download them from SD?
[16:52] <stoth> scan
[16:52] <tgm4883> what tuner
[16:52] <stoth> new tuner... but for discussion sake assume a dvico QAM fusion 3.
[16:53] <tgm4883> k
[16:53] <stoth> all channels play correctly.
[16:53] <stoth> but the guide downloads, but doesn;t seem to be 'connected' internally to the channels.
[16:53] <tgm4883> so the channels play right, they just dont have the data?
[16:53] <stoth> y
[16:53] <tgm4883> k
[16:53] <tgm4883> couple things it could be
[16:54] <stoth> I expected to see a channel mapping screen in mythtv-setup, but I don't see anything obvious that connects local digital channel X to schedulesdirect channel X.
[16:54] <tgm4883> 1)  the wrong lineup was selected in SD
[16:54] <tgm4883> 2)  Digital channels aren't being broadcast with the correct info
[16:55] <tgm4883> theres a way to fix this, but it's not exactly fun if you have lots of channels
[16:55] <stoth> 1 is correct, 2 - possible, I would not expect SD to understand the proprietary digital format - hence I assumed I can manually map them.
[16:55] <stoth> tgm4883: I'm all ears.
[16:55] <tgm4883> k
[16:55] <tgm4883> it's a pita, but you only have to do it once, you also will need a keyboard
[16:56] <stoth> k
[16:56] <tgm4883> you'll have to manually enter the channelid for each channel
[16:56] <tgm4883> this is done in mythweb
[16:56] <stoth> ok. Is that the native web service built into the app? or an addon?
[16:57] <tgm4883> it's built into mythweb, which i believe is installed by default with the backend
[16:57] <tgm4883> you have to click on the key&wrench at the top
[16:57] <tgm4883> then mythtv channel info
[16:57] <stoth> one sec
[16:58] <tgm4883> sec, i haven't done this in a long time
[16:59] <stoth> I don't see the port listened in the myth-setup tool (frontend and backon on single machine btw)
[17:01] <tgm4883> are you going to
[17:01] <tgm4883> http://mythbackendip/mythweb
[17:01] <stoth> (hmm, wasn't installed by default on gutsy)
[17:02] <tgm4883> ok
[17:02] <tgm4883> can you go into MCC and install it?
[17:02] <stoth> doing apot-get now.
[17:02] <tgm4883> that works too
[17:03] <stoth> bingo
[17:03] <pike__> wow 900 kB on torrent nice
[17:04] <stoth> tgm4883: I can see the web page, a giant list of channels. Where do I get the xmltvid from?
[17:05] <tgm4883> sec
[17:06] <superm1> the xmltvid is found when you run mythfilldatabas
[17:06] <superm1> e
[17:07] <stoth> I have the data loaded via mythfilldatabase, I mean is their an easy access mechanism to get the xml channel name and id?
[17:07] <Daviey> superm1: what country are you in?
[17:10] <superm1> stoth, if the call sign for the channel and the channel number don't match up to what SD expects, it won't populate right
[17:10] <superm1> so you need to update those
[17:10] <williammanda__> http://pastebin.ca/743591
[17:10] <williammanda__> this is what i get in terminal
[17:11] <stoth> superm1: That's what I'm trying to do, but I don't understand where I get the callsign from (or even whether that's technicall known as the xmltvid)
[17:11] <superm1> stoth, ah
[17:11] <superm1> stoth, when you log into schedules direct
[17:11] <superm1> its what the network is called
[17:12] <superm1> like KDSM
[17:12] <superm1> or something like that
[17:12] <stoth> In the channels listings table you mean?
[17:12] <stoth> (via sd)
[17:12] <superm1> yeah
[17:12] <superm1> alternatively, if that doesn't work for you tgm4883  has another solution
[17:13] <stoth> ahh, I see it.
[17:13] <tgm4883> right now it's being slow, but if you go to the zap2it.com website, and go into listings (picking your type of cable and everything)
[17:13] <stoth> I have the new value associated, will I need to re-run mythfilldatabase?
[17:13] <tgm4883> then click on the channel (not a program on the channel
[17:14] <tgm4883> you'll get a link like this
[17:14] <tgm4883> http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?stnNum=10424&lineupId=OR36517%3a-&zipcode=97304&channel=3&channelCnt=3
[17:14] <tgm4883> stnNum= is the xmltvid
[17:14] <tgm4883> in this case
[17:14] <tgm4883> 10424
[17:14] <tgm4883> which is the portland CW
[17:14] <stoth> I think I have that number from SD, it's showing me channel #, xmltvid then channel name
[17:16] <stoth> OK. I have three xmltvid's (11331, 11705, 11259) mapped via mythweb for the right channels and saved.
[17:16] <stoth> Do I need to re-run mythfilldtabase?
[17:17] <stoth> (ok, runnit it anyway)
[17:17] <stoth> s/runnit/running/
[17:17] <pike__> so with myth the videos cannot be stored as flat files is that right?
[17:18] <stoth> TADA! listings, cool. Thanks tgm4883, superm1
[17:18] <superm1> stoth, which solution ended up working for you?
[17:18] <superm1> mine or tgm4883's
[17:19] <stoth> I got the xmltvid from SD listings page, the keyed it manually via mythweb.
[17:22] <superm1> ok cool
[17:22] <tgm4883> ok, im out, release party time
[17:23] <superm1> cu
[17:25] <Varka> hi, i have mythbuntu 7.10 rc up and running and aktivated lan-access. i am able to connect to mythweb from other workstations but not to the backend with another frontend running on those other workstations
[17:28] <stoth> that's maybe a mysql security issue.
[17:28] <stoth> check the hostnames and port numbers in mythtvsetup, may sure you're not using localhost.
[17:32] <williammanda_> what is the mythtv user password?
[17:47] <superm1> williammanda_, it's generated randomly
[17:47] <superm1> williammanda_, you dont run things as the mythtv user in mythbuntu though
[17:47] <superm1> its all done as normal user
[17:48] <williammanda_> well...i understand....but i couldn't get mythbuntu to work earlier....
[17:49] <williammanda_> control center wouldn't start
[17:49] <williammanda_> so i loaded myth the old way
[17:49] <williammanda_> and still couldn't get mythtv-setup to work
[17:50] <williammanda_> i'm a member of mythtv group.....haven't ever had this problem
[17:50] <williammanda_> so i thought i would try to logon as mythtv and run mythtv-setup
[17:52] <williammanda_> tgm said there was a problem with the 64 bit
[17:53] <superm1> williammanda_, yeah its a 64 bit problem.  there is a new deb on the ubuntu forums
[17:53] <superm1> for mythbuntu
[17:53] <superm1> that resolves the 64 bit issue
[17:54] <williammanda_> is that installed after mythbuntu?
[17:55] <superm1> williammanda_, it will be for monday's release
[17:55] <superm1> and i'm pushing it to the archives -proposed section right now
[17:57] <superm1> williammanda_, see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580553
[17:58] <williammanda_> got it
[18:16] <williammanda_> i'm getting the same result
[18:16] <williammanda_> with mythbuntu....
[18:16] <williammanda_> kicks me out of mythtv setup
[18:17] <superm1> kicks you out?
[18:17] <superm1> what do you mean?
[18:17] <williammanda_> do i need to re-install mysql?
[18:18] <williammanda_> upon starting mythtv setup....
[18:18] <superm1> where are you starting it from?
[18:18] <williammanda_> i only get through the 3 blue screens
[18:18] <superm1> oh mysql user issue.....
[18:18] <williammanda_> whether using mythbuntu or regular myth install
[18:18] <superm1> do you have ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt ?
[18:18] <superm1> if so - get rid of it...
[18:19] <williammanda_> nope
[18:19] <superm1> okay did you change the mysql password for the mythtv user?
[18:19] <williammanda_> nope
[18:20] <superm1> okay is mysqld running?
[18:20] <superm1> can you check?
[18:20] <williammanda_> not sure
[18:20] <superm1> ps aux | grep mysql will show you
[18:23] <williammanda__> http://pastebin.ca/743661
[18:24] <williammanda_> i haven't used this before....not sure what it is telling me
[18:24] <superm1> yeah its running
[18:26] <superm1> okay hm.
[18:27] <superm1> wait so your doing this as root
[18:27] <williammanda__> should i do this?
[18:27] <williammanda__> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mythtv') WHERE user='mythtv';
[18:27] <superm1> check for a /root/.mythtv/mysql.txt then
[18:27] <superm1> well that is an alternate way to go about things
[18:28] <superm1> should we not be able to figure out why the random password isn't working, reseting it is a soltuion
[18:28] <williammanda__> nothing in root
[18:29] <superm1> can you launch it as your normal user?
[18:30] <williammanda__> ok i'll try
[18:32] <williammanda__> i'm confused...running ps aux | grep mysql as a normal user?
[18:34] <superm1> no i mean mythtv-setup
[18:34] <soren> What do I need to do to make xmltv configuration show up in mythtv-setup in the sources setup?
[18:34] <superm1> soren, the RC had a bug that xmltv didn't install via ubiquity
[18:34] <superm1> soren, so after installation, install it via apt
[18:34] <soren> superm1: Ah, so just install xmltv and it will show up?
[18:34] <superm1> soren, and then it will show up
[18:34] <superm1> yeah
[18:34] <williammanda__> i did run mythtv setup as a normal user
[18:35] <superm1> williammanda_, then it is sounding more like you'll want to reset that password.  i'm not sure how you got to this situation.  be sure to update the password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt after you reset it
[18:35] <williammanda__> i just used a superuser terminal for grep
[18:35] <superm1> o
[18:35] <soren> superm1: Ok, thanks.
[18:35] <williammanda__> mythtv setup was lanuched through control center
[18:36] <superm1> williammanda_, ook
[18:37] <superm1> soren, no prob.
[18:38] <reclusivemonke2> has anyone heard of any successes with the soungraph iMON pad remote?
[18:52] <williammanda__> ?
[18:52] <williammanda__> william@C2D:~$ UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mythtv') WHERE user='mythtv';
[18:52] <williammanda__> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[18:52] <williammanda__> i get this error when running this command
[18:55] <MythbuntuGuest76> hi I'm installing mythbuntu now and was wondering if xfs and /var/lib is the prefered partitioning?
[18:58] <williammanda_> xfs is yes
[18:59] <MythbuntuGuest76> i did read /var/lib/mythtv somewhere, is that where storage is now?
[19:00] <williammanda_> the location is defined during the setup process
[19:00] <williammanda_> it has a default...but you can enter any location
[19:00] <MythbuntuGuest76> ok but what is the default?
[19:01] <williammanda_> i don't remember
[19:01] <MythbuntuGuest76> default is often better when upgrades come around
[19:01] <MythbuntuGuest76> ok i go with /var/lib that I've been using all the time before then i guess
[19:02] <MythbuntuGuest76> thank you
[19:04] <williammanda__> ok...i'm stuck
[19:05] <williammanda__> i can't get past this error message...
[19:05] <williammanda__> root@C2D:/home/william# UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mythtv') WHERE user='mythtv';
[19:05] <williammanda__> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[19:06] <pike_> why ()? in bash youd either '' or if you wan t() then \('mythtv'\) right?
[19:07] <soren> williammanda__: You need to do that in mysql, not in a prompt.
[19:08] <williammanda__> soren how do i do that?
[19:09] <williammanda__> i'm just following a guide
[19:10] <williammanda__> mysql -u root mysql
[19:10] <williammanda__> ?
[19:10] <superm1> williammanda_, those are supposed to be issued in a mysql client
[19:11] <pike_> closest ive come to db exp is sqltools on a windows oracle box so im expecting myth to be an experience :)
[19:13] <superm1> in the ideal situation none of this would have come up
[19:14] <williammanda__> i'm still lost.....how do i start mysql client to enter the command?
[19:14] <superm1> mysql -u root mysql
[19:15] <superm1> and then type that command you have there
[19:15] <williammanda__> root@C2D:/home/william# mysql -u root mysql
[19:15] <williammanda__> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[19:16] <MythbuntuGuest76> superm1 any big changes from the rc to final? and thx for all the good work
[19:16] <williammanda__> am i doing something wrong?
[19:16] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest76, yes we have our own theme, and bug fixes
[19:16] <superm1> williammanda_, do you have a root password set?
[19:16] <superm1> for mysql?
[19:16] <williammanda__> no
[19:17] <williammanda__> no password
[19:17] <superm1> williammanda_, well it's sure sounding like you do
[19:17] <MythbuntuGuest76> superm1 I'll get that theme with updates later right?
[19:17] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest76, unfortunately not.  I can point you at the deb for it though.
[19:17] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest76, its not part of the ubuntu archives
[19:17] <williammanda__> would it be easier for me to uninstall mysql & mythtv and start over?
[19:18] <superm1> since it was a last minute decision to add
[19:18] <superm1> williammanda_, at this point yes.
[19:18] <superm1> williammanda_, be sure to *purge*
[19:18] <superm1> mysql
[19:18] <williammanda__> great ty
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest76> oh ok sure i'd like to have it
[19:19] <superm1> toorima, http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu_0.20071015~ppa2_all.deb
[19:22] <toorima> thx superm1
[19:22] <superm1> no prob.
[19:23] <toorima> everything else will come trough updates tho right?
[19:23] <superm1> yeah
[19:23] <toorima> nice
[19:23] <superm1> the other big bug fixes are in the installer anyhow though
[19:23] <superm1> so they won't be applicable
[19:23] <toorima> ok
[19:23] <toorima> thx again for all the good work
[19:24] <superm1> it's been fun :)
[19:24] <toorima> yeah projects like this must be a lot of fun
[21:24] <troy_s> foxbuntu: Ok... so in prep for that 26th
[21:24] <troy_s> foxbuntu: I have more or less gotten a palette in place with the crest
[21:24] <troy_s> foxbuntu: I am going to rest on it and see if it feels right after the rest.
[21:24] <troy_s> foxbuntu: Then I'll ship it to you for final approval...
[21:25] <troy_s> foxbuntu: Been trying to get the usplash into a more polished state obviously... how goes things with the flowchart?  PM when you are around.
[21:30] <jfg_> Am I better install mythbuntu choosing my whole 500Gb Hard Disk from the start or leave as installer advise half of it free? I'm new to Linux from OS X, installed, upgraded Mythbuntu with its three Desktop environments; my Home Directory is practically full with music. What should I do?
[21:32] <jfg_> I mean, there is a Linux utility to repartition disk and/or repertories... Is that not what I should now use?
[21:43] <r0b-> can someone help me?
[21:43] <r0b-> mythtv wont connect to my MySQL server
[22:05] <DaveMorris> jfg_: your best to use the whole of the drive
[22:05] <DaveMorris> it may have defaulted to using a fraction if it detected an OS already installed on there
[22:06] <DaveMorris> actually
[22:06] <DaveMorris> wait
[22:06] <DaveMorris> have you already installed mythbuntu?
[22:10] <pike_> just curious im at cli right now and in middle of distupgrade but is mythbuntu available as a metapackage?
[22:10] <pike_> in ubuntu repos?
[22:11] <tgm4883> mythbuntu-desktop
[22:12] <tgm4883> there is also a guide to installing mythbuntu on gutsy
[22:12] <tgm4883> $guide
[22:12] <DaveMorris> $wiki
[22:12] <tgm4883> mythbot is dead again
[22:12]  * DaveMorris is gonna give up on the bot
[22:12] <tgm4883> we need a better bot
[22:13] <DaveMorris> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV#head-a2f3c5d4e6ca44e289fadd6e0f4a5fbded05efa7
[22:13] <DaveMorris> pike_: ^^
[22:14] <pike_> ty
[22:41] <jfg_> I've lost internet for a while, can someone tell me if my question was answered?
[22:42] <superm1> jfg_, yeah it was
[22:42] <superm1> DaveMorris> jfg_: your best to use the whole of the drive
 it may have defaulted to using a fraction if it detected an OS already installed on there
 actually
 wait
 have you already installed mythbuntu?
[22:44] <jfg_> Yes I have.
[22:44] <superm1> you can use gparted to resize things as necessary
[22:44] <jfg_> Is there no mean to alter disk partition otherwise with a utility?
[22:44] <superm1> yeah: gparted :)
[22:44] <superm1> you can boot off of a live disk to use it
[22:44] <superm1> since it won't work on a live filesystem
[22:45] <superm1> live meaning mounted
[22:47] <jfg_> It doesn't work. I fear I'll have to reinstall.
[22:48] <jfg_> There's something already on the empty partition. Utility quit when I unmount this free partition, quite curiously...
[22:49] <DaveMorris> you can also mount the unused 1/2 as a separate partition and use that for all your recordings, and the other 1/2 for the os and your music
[22:50] <jfg_> yeah, indeed but I'd rather have a proper installation from the start, though
[22:50] <DaveMorris> copy your muisc of 1st, then install using it all, and then copy it back
[22:50] <superm1> jfg_, why doesnt gparted work?
[22:50]  * DaveMorris off to bed
[22:51] <superm1> night DaveMorris
[22:51] <superm1> did you push your changes?
[22:51] <superm1> (or did you have more )
[22:51] <jfg_> it quits or crashes when I unmount the free partition, is it not possible?
[22:52] <jfg_> the "free" partition just wouldn't unmount...
[22:53] <jfg_> gparted shows it not all free too. There's 6Gb of it used on 234.
[22:53] <superm1> jfg_, you're doing this on a live cd right?
[22:54] <superm1> not on the live system
[22:54] <jfg_> I'll reinstall, there's surely matter for it.
[22:55] <jfg_> What about LVM? Is it available with Mythbuntu?
[22:55] <superm1> jfg_, if you want to do lvm, leave the partition unmade
[22:55] <superm1> you can do it post install
[22:56] <jfg_> allright
[22:57] <jfg_> I go and see on Ubuntu documentation then for LVM. The problem should be solved, thanks.
[22:58] <superm1> good luck :)
[23:01] <Wy|laptop> Hrm, is there a problem with package signing?
[23:02] <Wy|laptop> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!rn  mythbuntu-control-centre
[23:02] <Daviey> Wy|laptop: what archive?
[23:03] <Wy|laptop> Hrm, not sure. I've got standard list
[23:04] <Wy|laptop> that's medi, archive., ppa.launchpad. nothing out of the ordinary
[23:05] <Daviey> ppa.launchpad aint signed..
[23:05] <Wy|laptop> ah
[23:05] <Daviey> if you use mythbuntu repo then it is signed
[23:06] <Wy|laptop> well, that's the default repo list for mythbuntu
[23:06] <superm1_> Wy|laptop, why do you have the ppa even on?
[23:06] <superm1_> its not necessary
[23:06] <superm1_> its only for our build process
[23:07] <Wy|laptop> wierd, musta turned it on by accident
[23:09] <jfg_> I upgraded from beta to rc and the same authentication problem with mythbuntu-control-centre occured to me.
[23:09] <superm1_> oh the beta had the ppa on
[23:09] <superm1_> i forgot about that.
[23:10] <jfg_> maybe in beta, these repositories were on for development...
[23:10] <Wy|laptop> superm1: that might have been it.
[23:11] <jfg_> lol
[23:11] <Wy|laptop> hrm, silly q, but how do you upgrade versions?
[23:13] <Wy|laptop> or is it just dist-upgarde?