[00:01] there should be more people around at night [00:02] whose night? [00:02] my night [00:02] its 0002 now [00:02] it's not night yet [00:03] Madpilot: It is here [00:27] hm. Do we have a document somewhere on doing the d cc testing? I checked the mailing list, but didnt see anything [00:28] nope [00:28] just /ctcp and /notice the person involved [00:28] With the offending string? [00:28] yes [00:28] Seems easy enough. [00:28] make it long. [00:28] the string. [00:29] Yeah, I know that [00:29] er, I mean I know the string needs to be long to activate the exploit. [00:30] how long? [00:32] more than 14 iirc [00:33] i just make it long [00:38] quite a few of the questions in #ubuntu seem to be "why doesn't compiz work" [00:40] it's a feature [00:40] it's working so fast the human eye cannot perceive it [00:43] welcom back [00:44] fankee [01:37] In ubotu, World said: This is the only info I have so fa "Note: You need to have the PLF repositories to get the sun-j2re1.5 package" [01:50] oh, i thought something more like "World said: I'm dying!" [01:52] somebody fed him some OLD info [01:53] nalioth: hah, no kidding [02:00] i note he has no response to my question. [02:28] Hey nzero, how can I help? [02:29] that's cool, I can harangue you here too. [02:29] i don't think that i am updated to final from beta and i can't get into ubuntu to find out [02:29] nzero, you can't get in because you were banned? [02:29] yes [02:29] Hi. I'm banned from the ubuntu channel, but I've never even been in it? so, anyone know why? [02:29] that you know [02:29] adriyel, You had been warned about his repeated language. He abused the bot, another violation of ubuntu irc guidelines, as well as calling names. [02:29] Gadfly, will deal with you in two seconds, thanks for your patience. [02:29] PriceChild: *scowls* what's your old name? [02:29] PriceChild: sure, np [02:29] I've never met you before, so I can't see how you'd know me. [02:30] s/his/your/ s/he/you/ [02:30] nzero, Well then you should have thought about the possibility of wanting our help before doing what you did to become banned. [02:30] ...your old name, on ubuntu, what is it? [02:30] adriyel, I'm not sure this is relevant. [02:31] I'm sure it is, because if you're going to recall past actions I'd like to know who the hell you are [02:31] if you won't grant that equity I suggest you shut the hell up about whatever it is you think I've done previously. [02:31] adriyel, I'm takling about the last 5 minutes of scrollback in that channel. [02:31] Gadfly, just checking your ban up on the bantracker now. [02:31] ok cool [02:31] listen, i can get in if i want to circumvent your ban but i really don't need to that , i just need to know if the repos provided in the beta are the ones the provide the final updates. [02:32] nzero, you've threatenned us with that before and you haven't done it... :/ [02:32] why waste the proxy on ego? [02:32] Please nzero, enough with the empty threats. [02:32] then you'll just ruin a proxy [02:32] he'd be stupid to do that. [02:33] *swats PriceChild with 3 kilos of salmon* [02:33] to do that i have to disconnect my DSL, which in turn would disconnect the various servers i have going, not that there are critical systems i just am to lazy to go to by basment and do that. [02:33] dynamically reassigned IP upon modem disco? [02:33] convenient. [02:33] Gadfly, go by any other names on irc? [02:33] nzero, please circumvent whatever you feel like, and leave us alone. [02:33] PriceChild: I could ask you the same. [02:34] *raises eyebrow* why didn't you just answer his question? [02:34] Gadfly-AFK if that counts [02:34] adriyel: not a support channel [02:34] and furthermore, why ban him from ops, christ. banning is the whole reason why he was here. [02:34] that's like banning someone from court after they've been charged with something. [02:34] redundant, see redundant. [02:35] Gadfly, not quite. Give me a couple more minutes please :) [02:35] PriceChild: I'm assuming that its my hostmask thats banned then? [02:35] adriyel: ops bans do not last for long, they are just to temporarily avoid rejoin spam [02:35] also, this whole bureaucracy exists to help ubuntu users, or have you forgotten that because you keep masturbating to your ban sticks? [02:35] so, despite this not being an official support channel, why didn' [02:35] didn't you just answer the goddamn question? [02:35] adriyel, why don't you mind your own ban? [02:35] adriyel, you're going to be muted very shortly. [02:35] why don't you remember why you're here? [02:35] he wanted help. [02:35] adriyel, ok lets stop, breathe, and remember what's going on here. [02:36] I'm sorry, was I talking to you? [02:36] he didn't want help adriyel. he's trolled for a months. we know him. [02:36] adriyel, This is #ubuntu-ops. It is for people's operator/abuse questions. [02:36] i don't know [02:36] adriyel, I suggest you /msg ubotu guidelines and read them fully. [02:36] adriyel, once you are done there, please pm me and I will lift the mute here so that we can discuss this calmly and civilised. [02:37] PriceChild: don't worry about the ban,google finally answered my question [02:37] I may have been wrong in my actions in -offtopic, but with the attitude you have displayed so far in #ubuntu and this channel, you're not going to get anywhere. [02:38] Gadfly, ok, well I've poked the op who made a ban and we'll see what they say. congrats on the googling [02:38] adriyel: are you familiar with what goes on in here? [02:38] oh, woops [02:39] have i made my point yet [02:39] i will tell everyone who to do this [02:39] stop being hatefull dictators [02:40] otherwise i will have to take more measures [02:40] sounds like fun. [02:41] "take more measures"? [02:42] what, like change his nick again? [02:42] Seeker`, He was ban evoiding just then. [02:42] Seeker`: probably wants to home-build a weather station or something [02:42] I wonder what ubuntu* nick he uses today [02:42] Seeker`: no, he went all out. [02:42] nalioth: he changed his IP too? [02:42] Seeker`: you can see the same info i can see [02:43] why huh-woh. [02:43] well PriceChild? [02:44] Ok adriyel, do you understand why you were remove/banned? [02:45] with the implication of agreement? no. Am I cognizant? Yes. Will I step more carefully? Why not, since you're perched like a hawk waiting for an excuse. [02:46] adriyel, do you understand why you were remove/banned? [02:46] this could turn into a really bad turing test. [02:46] haha [02:46] erm sorry [02:46] *pokes you* Atari 2600, are you there? [02:46] only if you want it to [02:46] Madpilot: why do you feel that only if you want it to? [02:47] PriceChild, Oui, puisque je ne semblent pas avoir un autre choix. [02:47] !en > adriyel (see the pm from ubotu) [02:47] adriyel, I'm not really in the mood for playing games :/ [02:47] jdong, be glad @lart doesn't work anymore :) [02:47] PriceChild: yes, because i don't seem to have another choice [02:47] oh come on, I wanted to see how many rules/regs I could evoke before you unbanned me :D [02:48] ok this is how it is, if people don't start respecting users on this server on stop being drunk with the little bit of power you have I am going to have to go above heads [02:48] something along the lines of getting operator status revoked [02:48] thedefender: bad start. [02:48] LjL, My french isn't that bad ;) [02:48] thedefender: is there something we can help you with? [02:48] I'd suggest disco'ing, coming back, and trying again. [02:48] adriyel, do you understand why you were remove/banned? [02:48] no one can really go over their heads, it's their channel. [02:48] PriceChild: how could i know. [02:48] no i am tired of seeing this [02:48] this people are terrible ops [02:48] PriceChild, Ja, meine Liebe. [02:48] thedefender, Could you give us an example of where an operator has acted inappropriately and we could sort thigns out? [02:48] thedefender: you can do nothing, you're wasting keyboard lifetime. [02:49] PriceChild: that's like asking for some wheat in a farmer's field. Don't ask questions like that, it makes baby satan cry. [02:49] adriyel, I'm trying to help you, but you are ignoring my questions and just not helping yourself [02:49] I responded! [02:49] no, forget it [02:49] yes! [02:49] yes I understand! [02:49] gah. [02:49] thedefender, then I'm afraid there is nothing that we can do :/ [02:49] i am just going to mail a friend who mark trust and get him to take care i [02:49] it [02:49] thedefender, either you call us out, and tell us "I think you did that wrong", and we can discuss it... or things stay as they are. [02:49] thedefender: what is "it" of which you speak? [02:50] thedefender, We are all open to criticism, as long as you don't just join a channel, tell us we're rubbish, be completely unconstructive then say it doesn't matter. [02:50] the fact the you are banning people in a support channel if your tired of seeing what someone says then people do have the option of ingnoring them [02:50] no sorry [02:50] seriously [02:50] seriously [02:50] "i think i'm going to mail a friend of mark" no i won't stand this [02:50] mail him [02:51] adriyel: let us be civil here, please [02:51] Context sensitive mute I see. [02:51] I said yes four times to his question. [02:51] or was it three? [02:51] *shrugs* [02:51] adriyel, I would be totally happy with removing your ban in -offtopic in the next 10 minutes if I could just see a change in attitude. [02:51] I said yes. [02:51] adriyel, We have guidelines for a reason in #*buntu* channels, and request that all users follow them, or do not take part. [02:52] *ponders of times of yore* [02:53] so what about #adriyubuntu-el? [02:53] :D [02:53] but in all seriousness. [02:53] yes, I'll not cross the line 'gain. [02:53] especially if it's going to involve this much time again. [02:54] adriyel: humor us and pretend to be respectful when in Ubuntu channels, so we can all get on to better things. This is the 4th time you've said something that'll get you unbanned, then immediately follow up with a wise crack that makes us second-guess your motives [02:55] it's like a pogo stick. [02:55] adriyel, You do have a history, you've been banned from -offtopic before. [02:55] really? [02:55] I'll play nice with the other children, ok? [02:55] adriyel, You would probably be surprised at what we know. [02:55] adriyel, That's just not enoguh.... [02:56] I know exactly where you keep all your records, I'm not ignorant. [02:56] you can't just call people douches [02:56] which falls under the ken of playing nice. [02:56] The users of the Ubuntu channels are not "other children". [02:56] funny. that's not the impression I get from this environment [02:56] at least as far as you guys consider the matter. [02:57] We're also not all guys :) [02:57] I'm also aware of that [02:57] plenty of female finns in the vicinity, thanks. [02:57] amongst others. [02:57] we expect people to generally act like adults. Or at least convincingly fake it. You're not convincing, currently. [02:57] adriyel: do you want to resolve this, or just sit here and flame everyone to your satisfaction? [02:57] resolution is good, and I'm not flaming. [02:57] flaming would be cursing your mothers. [02:57] adriyel: your current behavior is not helping [02:58] I'm being truthfully poignant, my apologies. [02:58] Better here than -offtopic or otherwise. [02:58] I'd rather raise my points here than in an open arena, and I'm sure you'd prefer the same. [02:58] it's not like you need a curmudgeon uprising. [02:58] but you're not raising points, you're throwing barbs [02:58] sometimes truth can hurt. [02:59] again, I'm not insulting any of your intelligence, nor your attractiveness, nor your mothers. I'm raising (sharp) points. [02:59] adriyel: I make points by writing wiki pages and e-mails expressing my disagreements and proposing solutions.... funny how we all have our ways of voicing disagreement. [02:59] ah yes. writing emails. [02:59] Yes, that's changed a lot...or not. Honestly it's rather endemic to almost all the hierarchy [03:00] I'm aware that my efforts are largely... [03:00] futile. [03:00] but if I at least raise the points, I can say I did that much. [03:00] Anyway adriyel. [03:00] yes? [03:00] adriyel, I hope you truly understand the reason for your ban. It will be lifted in 48 hours. [03:00] hmm. running on a 1200 baud modem? [03:01] I remember you quoting 10 minutes earlier. That must be because rush hour hit your area or something [03:01] might want to swab out the tubes sometime. [03:01] i'd like to know what is being blabbered about. [03:01] lag. [03:01] ok seriously, we've all got better ways to spend our time [03:02] yes, well, I'm banned until two days from now, so I'm afraid I have no better way to spend my time than to talk with you folks. [03:02] anyone here play drunk jenga? XD [03:02] adriyel, this channel is for operator/abuse questions only. [03:02] ohhh...yeah...there is an offtopic conversation channel isn't there? [03:02] buuuuut, I'm banned. [03:02] fancy that. [03:02] well I can't talk in #ubuntu. [03:02] Should have thought about that before you got banned. [03:03] at your discretion, not my own. [03:03] adriyel: please be back in 48 hours. no need to say anything further. [03:03] adriyel, If you have no further business here, then see you in 48 hours. [03:03] anything further. [03:03] guys? [03:03] when i say something, i mean it. [03:03] there we go [03:03] should've been done 10 minutes ago IMO [03:03] it was pretty apparent he had no intentions of cooperating [03:04] meh :/ [03:04] "you never know" [03:04] I always hate it when people have to be banned from here. [03:05] Talking about that... should probably remove some old ones. [03:05] he was begging for it [03:05] ok I removed Airforce55555 [n=stephen@68-188-118-34.static.stls.mo.charter.com] in #uf because his client was rapidly joining/parting... I'm sure it's a network problem and he doesn't mean for it.... [03:05] so if he comes and complains please remove it if I'm not around [03:05] did you ban-forward him here? [03:06] wow so many bans in here in the past few days.. [03:06] *leaves them alone for now* [03:06] effie_jayx: ping? [03:07] Madpilot: no, I didn't... should I have? [03:07] Madpilot: I'd rather not have him joining and parting in here every 20 seconds [03:07] nah [03:08] jdong, good point [03:08] leave it, I guess [03:11] Madpilot, shall we try removing your bans too? [03:12] that tor user must have gone :P [03:12] go ahead [03:12] pull the one by tonyy too [03:13] hrm? [03:13] oh, that - suer [03:13] *sure [03:13] -> bed [03:13] will leave sev's ones incase he bites :P [03:13] err, sure about afterdeath? [03:14] jcastro, zylche, can I help? [03:14] and woooo I think I've beaten thedefender [03:14] beaten? [03:15] erm, convinced [03:15] oh, i hoped you'd beaten him. [03:15] with a large object [03:15] ok, as i was saying [03:15] hobbsee's LPS [03:15] -> bed [03:15] sleep well [03:15] Gah I should be off soon too. [03:32] yeah Pricey, what time is it for you/ [03:32] ?* [03:32] erm late [03:32] Vorian: /ctcp PriceChild time [03:32] or early depending on how you look at it. [03:32] nalioth, thanks for the tip :) [03:32] cool [03:33] didn't know that [03:33] * jdong annoyingly does it some more [03:33] lol is it possible to ctcp a whole channel and annoy the piss outta everyone? [03:33] Yes... but don't if you value your presence :P [03:34] kewl [03:34] PriceChild: lol... is that a "feature" of irc? [03:34] Vorian: erm, I'm in the same timezone as you :D [03:34] I know [03:34] ! [03:34] jdong: _any_ channel CTCPs are likely to get an unexpected response [03:34] * jdong runs with laptop while timing Vorian and PriceChild , to confirm special relativity [03:35] * Vorian trips jdong [03:35] nooooooooo [03:35] I lost my u_0 reference point! [03:35] nalioth: what is an unexpected response? [03:36] jdong: google "what is unexpected" [03:36] and don't be dense :| [03:37] nalioth: you mean a billion people will be pissed on me and I'll likely not be connected to irc.freenode.org much longer, or the client misbehaves and reports weird data? [03:37] sorry, not trying to be dense... just tired and not thinking [03:37] that all falls under "unexpected" [03:37] so then see i am dealing with some cowards, who sit behind there little box and believe they have some influence on the world. A little tip, turn the box, go out to a park or a bar and start talking to people, be a little social face to face. Then maybe, you might understand why some people get banned unjustly and how it adversely affects this community. Learn about humans, otherwise go work on mainframes in some windowl [03:38] i leave you with that punks [03:38] huh? [03:38] he didn't even finish his rant [03:38] I don't work on mainframes :( [03:39] I wish I worked on mainframes [03:39] just silly lawnmowers and stoves [03:39] Vorian: that beats chemistry and math homework [03:39] true [03:39] you win jdong [03:44] erm, is thedefender supposed to be in #ubuntu? [03:48] seems that thedefender was just upset people were getting kicked from this channel [03:49] ah, OK. been so may trolls thru here lately I can't keep track. Aren't releases fun? [03:49] I just scrolled up :P [03:49] he doesn't like drunk people either [03:50] I saw the episode here, but missed whatever had brought him here. [03:55] * rob finally gets on the mailing list [04:43] anybody take care of G0dl1k3 and his onjoin spamming? [04:44] anyone getting onjoin spam in #ubuntu ? i am not getting anything [04:46] * nalioth took care of it [05:41] tonyyarusso, pong? [05:42] effie_jayx: wondering how you managed to pull off getting free food [05:43] tonyyarusso, we sent 5 letters [05:44] in those letters you specify what the event if intended for [05:44] Are these letters in Spanish or English? [05:45] These are in spanish [05:45] (wondering how you went about asking successfully, so I could emulate it sometime) [05:45] boo [05:45] * tonyyarusso is unilingual [05:45] The way this works is simple [05:45] tonyyarusso, I could translate them for you no problem [05:45] but there are cultural aspects we might have to discuss [05:45] effie_jayx: That would be appreciated. [05:46] tonyyarusso, let me get this event over... and I will gladly show you how to taste fully ask for it [05:46] effie_jayx: sure [05:47] tonyyarusso, I am still running around with the registration system developed at the university to controll the registration [05:48] there are over 20 people ready to go [05:48] 250 [05:48] sorry [05:48] and I am a bit unsure about how to address the crowd [05:48] there are people that do not know squad about ubuntu [05:49] and there are ubuntu users [06:40] yeah [06:41] Ours will probably be like that too [06:41] but like 1/10 the size [07:31] scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu [08:57] In ubotu, Jordan_U said: /home is To move your /home to a separate partition follow http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome [09:03] !home | Jordan_U: [09:03] Jordan_U:: Your home folder is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For mounting your home folder on a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome [09:03] ;) [09:04] Jordan_U: anything else we can help with? [09:04] jussi01, Get update-manager to let me upgrade to Gutsy ;) [09:05] Jordan_U: thats not an OP problem. sorry. Please join #ubuntu / #kubuntu for support [09:07] jussi01, I was joking [09:07] :) [09:08] hehe... :) [09:52] In Ubotu, arashOio said: !kiba-dock is Kiba Dock is a dock, a way to access programs and windows in an interactive manner. Probably the most common example today is the dock in Mac OS X. Kiba Dock is specifically made for Linux operating systems, running under either the GNOME and KDE destkop environments. However, unlike the other systems available, it uses the Akamaru physics engine to render complex interactions. [10:44] tonyyarusso, poke [11:01] I need to be tested [11:12] been tested yet? [11:12] you know you can avoid the problem by just connecting on freenode on port 8001 instead of 6667 [11:13] i thought i did [11:13] i changed it in GAIM [11:14] looks good to me [11:15] i really just want to get nvidia drivers on gutsy, this is crazy [11:15] :-/ [11:16] okay you are free to enter [11:17] ty [11:48] hi kids [12:12] anyone about? [12:12] ? [12:12] Tm_T: I was wondering if someone wanted to do somethig about the joins/parts [12:13] I cant, sorry [12:17] LjL-Temp: you there? [12:30] !ops [12:30] Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici [12:30] Amaranth called the ops in #ubuntu-ops [12:30] * Seeker` wasn't sure if it was worth a !ops or not [12:30] They're not regulars and they're intentionally spamming with the hopping [12:31] Seveas: can't ban tor, don't we allow tor in #ubuntu now? [12:31] we don't [12:31] ok then, ban away :) [12:31] and the ban is only temporary [12:31] until those a*holes die or something ;) [12:31] until they give up [12:32] Wow, you know we've had a release when I have an uptime longer than 24 hours [12:32] 06:31:15 up 3 days, 3:29, 2 users, load average: 0.23, 0.14, 0.10 [12:33] Amaranth: ? [12:33] why is that? [12:33] Seeker`: I'm not restarting daily to test new stuff [12:33] Amaranth: ah, ok :) [12:33] Amaranth: How soon will you start testing hardy? [12:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule :) [12:34] I think my last longest uptime was from feisty final freeze to the toolchain upload to hardy [12:34] Seeker`: When it opens [12:34] s/hardy/gutsy/ [12:53] Dunno if you guys noticed but winchesterPAT was probing in #ubuntu-devel [13:40] %btlogin [13:40] Seveas, are you about? [13:41] hummtidumm [13:41] Seveas, when you do see this (scrollback ftw) have a look at the bugbot it ain't in the best of health [13:42] ban tracker threw such a large exception the sun was blocked out for a moment :) [13:42] it happy again [13:42] Seveas, IGNORE [14:11] Gary: http://dev.realistanew.com/xchat [14:11] yay [14:11] thanks [14:33] in Sevea_s' cs script is /k == remove or kick? [14:34] remove [14:34] so /kb is remove and ban? [14:35] yeah [14:35] cool ty [14:37] once they fix tab completion this could be a nice client [14:37] xchat-gnome? :) [14:37]