| Kamping_Kaiser | unsupprisingly 'new hardware' and 'new software' work well together | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Kamping_Kaiser | mastercane, theres what LSB is for | 00:01 |
| Yahooadam | meh | 00:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the next LTS will have driver cd update support built in, 6.06 doesnt | 00:02 |
| mastercane | Kamping_Kaiser: so your opinion is that ubuntu LTS is not made for ISVs who select it as base for their software? | 00:02 |
| Yahooadam | i thought the ubuntu repository machines compiled for you and stuff ... ? | 00:02 |
| mastercane | oh, driver cd support would be nice... | 00:02 |
| Yahooadam | oh well, i dont really understand all this stuff yet ;) | 00:03 |
| Yahooadam | packages and stuff confuse me :p | 00:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Yahooadam, they dont cmopile "for you" per se | 00:03 |
| Q_Continuum | I just want to make myself a mirror :( | 00:03 |
| Yahooadam | i thought i saw somone say somthing in a forum thing for ubutnu, and it tried to compile | 00:03 |
| mastercane | Yahooadam: we sell groupware based on java, so our admin backend has to be deeply integrated with postfix, amavis, clamav, sieve, cyrus, ... | 00:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Yahooadam, any ISV who wriets LSB 2.something complient apps will have them work on dapper | 00:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Q_Continuum, pastebin your update script, and your error message | 00:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Yahooadam, you can build your own if you want | 00:04 |
| Yahooadam | fair enough ... :) | 00:05 |
| mastercane | Kamping_Kaiser: if the ISv's customers use outdated hardware that is right, on 90 % of the actual server hardware Ubuntu 6.06 can't be installed / can only be installed with much manual work | 00:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mastercane, point is if its LSB [2,3] complient, it will work on later versions too. as for dappers hardware support - such is life | 00:06 |
| Yahooadam | you know what i wish, that my server would last for more then 1 week without some kind of hardware or software failure >_< | 00:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Yahooadam, :| thats not good | 00:07 |
| mastercane | "such is life" is not okay if you need a supported plattform for your product... | 00:08 |
| Yahooadam | mmm, oh and i nuked my HDD and then found out that my ram was bad :'( | 00:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Yahooadam, :S | 00:08 |
| Yahooadam | despite what memtest might tell me | 00:08 |
| mastercane | only wanted to here opinions here - hope that there will be enough political power behind my requests so the kernel gets updated --> ubuntu LTS runs on actual hardware | 00:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mastercane, yeah, i understand. Debian etch is out, or 6 months then theres another LTS (with driver cd support and crap) | 00:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kernel will probably not get updated, its likely drivers will get backported to that kernel though | 00:09 |
| mastercane | that would be okay, too | 00:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you'll need to ping someone like soren (iirc) to ask whats going on there | 00:11 |
| mastercane | Kamping_Kaiser sorry for the quit - upgrade of ,my workstation to gutsy killes the irc client | 00:15 |
| Yahooadam | lol | 00:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. | 00:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no worries | 00:16 |
| mastercane | real men stay gentlemen even in irc ;) | 00:16 |
| Q_Continuum | whaaa? | 00:19 |
| Q_Continuum | Lies. | 00:19 |
| mastercane | for what do you guys use your ubuntu-server? any other people around using it as spam filtering MTA ? | 00:20 |
| Yahooadam | TV, File and print server | 00:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | my ubuntu server is an LTSP and a gateway (filtering caching proxy) in a community centre, i dont run ubuntu at home | 00:21 |
| mastercane | LTSP5 ? | 00:21 |
| mastercane | what is a "community centre"? | 00:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no, ltsp4 | 00:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thehut.org.au | 00:23 |
| mastercane | ah, okay | 00:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | well, 4 i think. running dapper | 00:23 |
| mastercane | what do you use as filter software? | 00:23 |
| mastercane | squid + privoxy or stuff like dansguardian? | 00:24 |
| * Yahooadam like IPCop | 00:24 | |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i've got squid+dansguardian | 00:24 |
| Yahooadam | likes # | 00:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | at home i tried to get http-replicator+dansguardian going, but didnt seem to work | 00:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i might try again later | 00:25 |
| Q_Continuum | Kamping_Kaiser, http://pastebin.com/d471406a0 - its an updated version from the one found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror (only changes are changing dapper to gutsy, and the removal of a potentially pesky apostrophe, as the original pastebin post shows) | 00:25 |
| Q_Continuum | Running it again without the apostrophe, seeing if it fails again. | 00:26 |
| mastercane | is there a way to log the traffic user based in this enviroment? | 00:26 |
| mastercane | had the problem some months ago: a company with MX terminalservers + citrix wanted to log all traffic userbased | 00:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mastercane, iptables can monitor per user, not tried it myself | 00:27 |
| mastercane | but all browser sessions for example come from the terminalserver - right? | 00:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Q_Continuum, wheres tthe apostrophy you removed? | 00:27 |
| mastercane | so iptables is no proper way | 00:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mastercane, i dont know how citrix works very much | 00:27 |
| Q_Continuum | just above where debmirror is called, near the bottom. first line in that last paragraph before debmirror - 'and not deb-src's' | 00:28 |
| stiv2k | what do i have to do to upgrade my server from feisty -> gutsy? | 00:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no you dont /have/ to | 00:30 |
| Q_Continuum | Kamping_Kaiser, the other issue I run into about 80% of the time is that it times out grabbing the package lists or the .gpg files of the package lists, I haven't found a server I can reliably pull from yet :-/ | 00:30 |
| stiv2k | huh? | 00:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Q_Continuum, dont see the apostrophy :| | 00:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Q_Continuum, you wont for a day or two. | 00:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the internet breaks for ~5 days after ubuntu gets released | 00:31 |
| Q_Continuum | I tried running it pre-release, let me find the forum post | 00:31 |
| Q_Continuum | I know :( | 00:31 |
| Q_Continuum | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578790&highlight=debmirror+gutsy | 00:32 |
| Q_Continuum | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578790 | 00:32 |
| stiv2k | what command do i need to upgrade? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt show any available updates | 00:32 |
| stiv2k | oh, maybe its do-release-upgrade ? | 00:33 |
| Q_Continuum | I was planning on mirroring it the day before, and having 99% of the stuff on my server, then just any last-minute fixes to download after that. | 00:33 |
| Q_Continuum | I'm stumped on the 'Patch binary missing, falling back to --pdiff=none' error. I don't know what 'Patch binary' it is looking for :-/ | 00:35 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Q_Continuum, try installing the package `patch` | 00:35 |
| Q_Continuum | wow, there actually is such an app. | 00:36 |
| Yahooadam | lol | 00:37 |
| Yahooadam | my bios fails so badly at CPU temp readings | 00:37 |
| Yahooadam | CPU -126C/258F MB 125C/257F | 00:37 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Q_Continuum, yup :) | 00:39 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol @ bios | 00:39 |
| Yahooadam | ive checked in ubuntu before and it was like 40C so im happy enough | 00:41 |
| Yahooadam | im pretty sure the bios is wrong ;) | 00:41 |
| mastercane | 90 % off BIOS / chipset sensors on consumer hardware show wrong values... | 00:44 |
| Yahooadam | yeah but usually not _that_ wrong :p | 00:45 |
| Yahooadam | maybe off by like 5% or somthing, not 315% | 00:46 |
| mastercane | okay - thats right ;) | 00:57 |
| leonel | I had Feisty working with qemu as host with feisty and gutsty guests | 01:20 |
| leonel | now I've upgraded to Gutsy and the guests hang with gutsy's qemu | 01:20 |
| leonel | Same as bug 126046 | 01:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 126046 in linux-source-2.6.22 "gobuntu hangs on boot under qemu" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126046 | 01:20 |
| leonel | edgy and dapper as guests work fine | 01:23 |
| leonel | what could change in gutsy ?? | 01:23 |
| mastercane | leonel: post the corresponding log entries | 01:44 |
| mastercane | the second poster in the bugreport IMO only has a simple udev problem | 01:45 |
| leonel | mastercane: I guess just the same error he has I have | 01:45 |
| leonel | the same screenshots he has it's my error I can't get any log | 01:46 |
| mastercane | you only have the message "/dev/disk/... does not exist"? | 01:46 |
| mastercane | why can't you get any log? | 01:47 |
| leonel | booting qemu ... | 01:47 |
| mastercane | which commandline do you use? | 01:48 |
| leonel | Loading please wait ... | 01:48 |
| leonel | qemu gutsy.img | 01:48 |
| leonel | I'm on gutsy as host and gutsy as guest | 01:48 |
| leonel | the instalation needed to blacklist piix_ata | 01:48 |
| leonel | still loading please wait ... | 01:50 |
| mastercane | nothing in the logfiles? | 01:51 |
| mastercane | can't you increase the loglevel? | 01:51 |
| leonel | now I have a promt with: | 01:51 |
| leonel | (initramfs) | 01:51 |
| leonel | /dev/disk no such file or directory | 01:52 |
| leonel | in /var/ I have run and lock | 01:53 |
| mastercane | can you start the testimages? | 01:53 |
| leonel | no log files | 01:53 |
| leonel | what testimages ? | 01:53 |
| mastercane | http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/download.html | 01:53 |
| leonel | lets check .. | 01:54 |
| leonel | mastercane: any image in particular ?? | 01:55 |
| mastercane | take the first | 01:56 |
| leonel | linux-0.2 .. | 01:56 |
| leonel | downloading .. | 01:56 |
| leonel | mastercane: I got a shell | 01:58 |
| mastercane | so only your image is broken, not the complete qemu I think | 01:58 |
| leonel | mastercane: tested dapper edgy centos 5 and 4 and all worked fine and those where installed on feisty host now feisty and gutsy as guests on gutsy host does not work | 01:59 |
| mastercane | did you install the non working gutsy image on gutsy or was it created under feisty, to? | 02:00 |
| leonel | first feisty and gutsy where created on feisty and worked fine now upgraded the host to gutsy and the feisty and gutsy stopped working then make a gutsy guest on gutsy host and installed fine just needed to blacklist the PIIX_ATA to find the cdrom for install and installed fine then at boot this is the result | 02:02 |
| leonel | 02:03 | |
| Kamping_Kaiser | without downloading the ISOs, how can i see whats on an install cds seed? | 02:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i'm sure ogra has told me in the past, but i dont remember :( | 02:04 |
| mastercane | read this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/67256 | 02:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 67256 in initramfs-tools ""-generic" kernel doesn't boot after upgrade to Edgy prerelease (but -386 does)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | any idea if ubuntu will remove all the extra indecies files for EOLd released like they removed the packages? | 02:11 |
| Burgundavia | Kamping_Kaiser: are the packages for warty actually gone? | 02:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Burgundavia, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ the packages lists are gone | 02:15 |
| leonel | didn't worked and when boot in recovery mode hangs after detecting the eth0 and same error | 02:36 |
| Burgundavia | Kamping_Kaiser: but the packages, at least the source onnes, must bge there for gpl reasons | 02:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Burgundavia, thtas possable, i dont know | 03:01 |
| * lamont waves from the colorado loco party | 03:21 | |
| mikeo2 | anyone here ever successfully configure SElinux with ubuntu-server? | 04:24 |
| mikeo2 | everyone i have talked to in person says its impossible to configure properly, and to not waste my time with it | 04:24 |
| mikeo2 | but since the NSA made it i think it might be worth the time | 04:24 |
| BBHoss | anyone know of a good dedicated server provider that installs ubuntu? | 05:39 |
| joebob777as7 | hey need help with remote mysql. receiving Could not connect to host '192.168.0.2'. | 06:19 |
| joebob777as7 | MySQL Error Nr. 2003 | 06:19 |
| joebob777as7 | Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.0.2' (111) | 06:19 |
| joebob777as7 | google didn't help | 06:20 |
| PanzerMKZ | why does it have to be installed from the factory? | 06:20 |
| joebob777as7 | anyone have any ideas or what i should be looking for? | 06:21 |
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| Ali_ix | hi | 09:55 |
| Ali_ix | how can i reconfigure/reset WHOLE network settings (interfaces, interface names, ip addreses and ptable rules) in ubuntu? any dpkg-recinfigure like command/way to do? | 09:55 |
| soren | Ali_ix: No, that stuff is scattered a bit. | 10:02 |
| soren | Ali_ix: Renaming of interfaces is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. | 10:03 |
| soren | Ali_ix: ip address and such is in /etc/network/interfaces | 10:03 |
| soren | Ali_ix: iptables is up to you. | 10:03 |
| Ali_ix | soren: thanks for info, i have changed/added some network card and now whole network is messed up :| | 10:04 |
| soren | Ali_ix: Which version of Ubuntu? | 10:06 |
| Ali_ix | soren: Gutsy gibbon | 10:07 |
| Ali_ix | soren: i thinks first thing is to name interfaces correctly | 10:08 |
| soren | Ali_ix: Interface names should never change. | 10:08 |
| soren | Ali_ix: That's that /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is there for. | 10:08 |
| Ali_ix | soren: i have 3 network cards, i have problem finding the interface connected to a specific network! if i can name them like eth-local eth-net eth-wireless it makes easie to config :) | 10:10 |
| soren | Ali_ix: Ah, right. | 10:14 |
| soren | Ali_ix: but Ubuntu should never be changing the names unless you've told it to do so. | 10:14 |
| Ali_ix | soren: yes, i thought there would be something to re arrange interfaces! after some nic change/removal i have som strange interface neames! eth0 eth3! and no eth2 and eth1! while the eth3 nic is the one from before nic changes ... 8} a bit confusing | 10:16 |
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| Ali_ix | hi again :) | 12:11 |
| kraut | moin | 12:58 |
| stefg | I could use some documentation about packaging a restricted module for a selfmade kernel. obviously the old fashioned module-assistant method from debian doesn't work, th moduöe isn't found, i think because retriced manager expects it in a different place. Googled around for some time now, but gutsy docu isn't very widespread yet, it seems | 14:31 |
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| isiahw1 | Is there a GUI for the server edition or is it strictly command line? | 16:10 |
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| c1|freakyy | can i see what packages have been upgraded in the last 2 apt-get upgrade s`? | 16:59 |
| mikeo2 | do-release-upgrade froze, is there a way i could see exactly what it was doing and finish the upgrade myself? | 17:02 |
| mikeo2 | it froze at the removing old packages stage | 17:03 |
| soren | c1|freakyy: /var/lib/dpkg.log | 17:03 |
| soren | c1|freakyy: /var/log/dpkg.log, I mean. | 17:03 |
| c1|freakyy | thank you | 17:03 |
| mikeo2 | so autoremoved the old packages | 17:03 |
| mikeo2 | but i don't want to restart the machine till i know its the newest version | 17:04 |
| mikeo2 | what does do-release-upgrade do after removing old packages | 17:04 |
| mikeo2 | it updated grub and everything already | 17:04 |
| mikeo2 | last thing it did was update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-386 | 17:05 |
| mikeo2 | seems to work | 17:17 |
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| stiv2k | hi, i recently did a do-release-upgrade on my server and when i came back a couple hours later it said the SSH session was terminated but i cant tell if the release upgrade was completed or not... what does this mean? | 18:50 |
| nealmcb | stiv2k: did you log back in? what does "lsb_release -a" say? | 19:34 |
| nealmcb | stiv2k: did it warn you about upgrading over ssh, and create an additional ssh server on port 9004 in case of problems? | 20:17 |
| nealmcb | so you might try ssh -p 9004 user@machine to get back in | 20:18 |
| stiv2k | nealmcb: i tried that but it said connection refused | 20:31 |
| stiv2k | No LSB modules are available. | 20:31 |
| stiv2k | Distributor ID: Ubuntu | 20:31 |
| stiv2k | Description: Ubuntu 7.10 | 20:31 |
| stiv2k | Release: 7.10 | 20:31 |
| stiv2k | Codename: gutsy | 20:31 |
| stiv2k | do i need to reboot the machine after upgrading to gutsy? | 21:48 |
| stiv2k | its acting extremely slow | 21:49 |
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| stiv2k | ok i have a serious problem | 22:10 |
| stiv2k | the server was being slow so i rebooted it and now 2 of my other filesystems arent showing up | 22:10 |
| stiv2k | ??? | 22:10 |
| stiv2k | steve@galatea:/$ sudo mount /home | 22:11 |
| stiv2k | [sudo] password for steve: | 22:11 |
| stiv2k | mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /home busy | 22:11 |
| stiv2k | steve@galatea:/$ ls -l /home | 22:11 |
| stiv2k | total 0 | 22:11 |
| stiv2k | help | 22:59 |
| stiv2k | someone | 22:59 |
| ScottK | !weekend | stiv2k | 23:01 |
| ubotu | stiv2k: It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. | 23:01 |
| stiv2k | ScottK: i see | 23:01 |
| * ScottK isn't the right person to help. Sorry. | 23:01 | |
| stiv2k | dont put yourself down like that | 23:01 |
| ivoks | :) | 23:02 |
| stiv2k | ivoks: can you help me | 23:02 |
| ivoks | maybe | 23:02 |
| stiv2k | maybe is better than no | 23:02 |
| ScottK | Not putting myself down, just file system issues aren't were my expertise is. | 23:02 |
| ivoks | uff... file system issues... | 23:02 |
| stiv2k | i really need to get this fs mounted cause i wanna watch a movie :/ | 23:02 |
| ivoks | well, the problem is? | 23:03 |
| stiv2k | ivoks: ok my /home is on a different partition, /dev/sda1 than my root | 23:03 |
| stiv2k | and after doing the dist-upgrade and rebooting | 23:03 |
| stiv2k | all of a sudden the /home filesystem is not there anymore | 23:04 |
| stiv2k | mount /dev/sda1 /home says | 23:04 |
| stiv2k | mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /home busy | 23:04 |
| stiv2k | but its not mounted | 23:04 |
| stiv2k | and im stuck | 23:04 |
| ivoks | do you have evms installed? | 23:04 |
| stiv2k | yes | 23:04 |
| ivoks | deinstall it | 23:04 |
| stiv2k | why? what is it | 23:04 |
| ivoks | apt-get --purge remove emvs | 23:04 |
| ivoks | if you don't know, you don't need it | 23:05 |
| stiv2k | enterprise volume management or something? | 23:05 |
| ivoks | yes | 23:05 |
| stiv2k | still dont know what that is | 23:05 |
| stiv2k | also during the dist-upgrade my ssh session got terminated twice when it was doing update-initramfs | 23:05 |
| stiv2k | i dunno why | 23:06 |
| ivoks | i doubt that was the reason | 23:06 |
| stiv2k | the update-initramfs takes forever... | 23:09 |
| stiv2k | the session gets terminated every time | 23:12 |
| stiv2k | ivoks: so what now? | 23:12 |
| stiv2k | now that evms is gone | 23:12 |
| stiv2k | i still cannot mount the drive | 23:13 |
| ivoks | reboot | 23:13 |
| stiv2k | ok | 23:13 |
| * stiv2k hopes it works | 23:14 | |
| stiv2k | YEAAA | 23:15 |
| stiv2k | ivoks: thanks a lot man | 23:15 |
| ivoks | np | 23:15 |
| ivoks | 'night all | 23:16 |
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