[00:00] unsupprisingly 'new hardware' and 'new software' work well together [00:01] mastercane, theres what LSB is for [00:02] meh [00:02] the next LTS will have driver cd update support built in, 6.06 doesnt [00:02] Kamping_Kaiser: so your opinion is that ubuntu LTS is not made for ISVs who select it as base for their software? [00:02] i thought the ubuntu repository machines compiled for you and stuff ... ? [00:02] oh, driver cd support would be nice... [00:03] oh well, i dont really understand all this stuff yet ;) [00:03] packages and stuff confuse me :p [00:03] Yahooadam, they dont cmopile "for you" per se [00:03] I just want to make myself a mirror :( [00:03] i thought i saw somone say somthing in a forum thing for ubutnu, and it tried to compile [00:03] Yahooadam: we sell groupware based on java, so our admin backend has to be deeply integrated with postfix, amavis, clamav, sieve, cyrus, ... [00:04] Yahooadam, any ISV who wriets LSB 2.something complient apps will have them work on dapper [00:04] Q_Continuum, pastebin your update script, and your error message [00:04] Yahooadam, you can build your own if you want [00:05] fair enough ... :) [00:06] Kamping_Kaiser: if the ISv's customers use outdated hardware that is right, on 90 % of the actual server hardware Ubuntu 6.06 can't be installed / can only be installed with much manual work [00:06] mastercane, point is if its LSB [2,3] complient, it will work on later versions too. as for dappers hardware support - such is life [00:07] you know what i wish, that my server would last for more then 1 week without some kind of hardware or software failure >_< [00:07] Yahooadam, :| thats not good [00:08] "such is life" is not okay if you need a supported plattform for your product... [00:08] mmm, oh and i nuked my HDD and then found out that my ram was bad :'( [00:08] Yahooadam, :S [00:08] despite what memtest might tell me [00:08] only wanted to here opinions here - hope that there will be enough political power behind my requests so the kernel gets updated --> ubuntu LTS runs on actual hardware [00:08] mastercane, yeah, i understand. Debian etch is out, or 6 months then theres another LTS (with driver cd support and crap) [00:09] kernel will probably not get updated, its likely drivers will get backported to that kernel though [00:10] that would be okay, too [00:11] you'll need to ping someone like soren (iirc) to ask whats going on there [00:15] Kamping_Kaiser sorry for the quit - upgrade of ,my workstation to gutsy killes the irc client [00:15] lol [00:16] lol. [00:16] no worries [00:16] real men stay gentlemen even in irc ;) [00:19] whaaa? [00:19] Lies. [00:20] for what do you guys use your ubuntu-server? any other people around using it as spam filtering MTA ? [00:20] TV, File and print server [00:21] my ubuntu server is an LTSP and a gateway (filtering caching proxy) in a community centre, i dont run ubuntu at home [00:21] LTSP5 ? [00:22] what is a "community centre"? [00:23] no, ltsp4 [00:23] thehut.org.au [00:23] ah, okay [00:23] well, 4 i think. running dapper [00:23] what do you use as filter software? [00:24] squid + privoxy or stuff like dansguardian? [00:24] * Yahooadam like IPCop [00:24] i've got squid+dansguardian [00:24] likes # [00:25] at home i tried to get http-replicator+dansguardian going, but didnt seem to work [00:25] i might try again later [00:25] Kamping_Kaiser, http://pastebin.com/d471406a0 - its an updated version from the one found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror (only changes are changing dapper to gutsy, and the removal of a potentially pesky apostrophe, as the original pastebin post shows) [00:26] Running it again without the apostrophe, seeing if it fails again. [00:26] is there a way to log the traffic user based in this enviroment? [00:27] had the problem some months ago: a company with MX terminalservers + citrix wanted to log all traffic userbased [00:27] mastercane, iptables can monitor per user, not tried it myself [00:27] but all browser sessions for example come from the terminalserver - right? [00:27] Q_Continuum, wheres tthe apostrophy you removed? [00:27] so iptables is no proper way [00:27] mastercane, i dont know how citrix works very much [00:28] just above where debmirror is called, near the bottom. first line in that last paragraph before debmirror - 'and not deb-src's' [00:28] what do i have to do to upgrade my server from feisty -> gutsy? [00:30] no you dont /have/ to [00:30] Kamping_Kaiser, the other issue I run into about 80% of the time is that it times out grabbing the package lists or the .gpg files of the package lists, I haven't found a server I can reliably pull from yet :-/ [00:30] huh? [00:31] Q_Continuum, dont see the apostrophy :| [00:31] Q_Continuum, you wont for a day or two. [00:31] the internet breaks for ~5 days after ubuntu gets released [00:31] I tried running it pre-release, let me find the forum post [00:31] I know :( [00:32] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578790&highlight=debmirror+gutsy [00:32] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578790 [00:32] what command do i need to upgrade? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt show any available updates [00:33] oh, maybe its do-release-upgrade ? [00:33] I was planning on mirroring it the day before, and having 99% of the stuff on my server, then just any last-minute fixes to download after that. [00:35] I'm stumped on the 'Patch binary missing, falling back to --pdiff=none' error. I don't know what 'Patch binary' it is looking for :-/ [00:35] Q_Continuum, try installing the package `patch` [00:36] wow, there actually is such an app. [00:37] lol [00:37] my bios fails so badly at CPU temp readings [00:37] CPU -126C/258F MB 125C/257F [00:39] Q_Continuum, yup :) [00:39] lol @ bios [00:41] ive checked in ubuntu before and it was like 40C so im happy enough [00:41] im pretty sure the bios is wrong ;) [00:44] 90 % off BIOS / chipset sensors on consumer hardware show wrong values... [00:45] yeah but usually not _that_ wrong :p [00:46] maybe off by like 5% or somthing, not 315% [00:57] okay - thats right ;) [01:20] I had Feisty working with qemu as host with feisty and gutsty guests [01:20] now I've upgraded to Gutsy and the guests hang with gutsy's qemu [01:20] Same as bug 126046 [01:20] Launchpad bug 126046 in linux-source-2.6.22 "gobuntu hangs on boot under qemu" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126046 [01:23] edgy and dapper as guests work fine [01:23] what could change in gutsy ?? [01:44] leonel: post the corresponding log entries [01:45] the second poster in the bugreport IMO only has a simple udev problem [01:45] mastercane: I guess just the same error he has I have [01:46] the same screenshots he has it's my error I can't get any log [01:46] you only have the message "/dev/disk/... does not exist"? [01:47] why can't you get any log? [01:47] booting qemu ... [01:48] which commandline do you use? [01:48] Loading please wait ... [01:48] qemu gutsy.img [01:48] I'm on gutsy as host and gutsy as guest [01:48] the instalation needed to blacklist piix_ata [01:50] still loading please wait ... [01:51] nothing in the logfiles? [01:51] can't you increase the loglevel? [01:51] now I have a promt with: [01:51] (initramfs) [01:52] /dev/disk no such file or directory [01:53] in /var/ I have run and lock [01:53] can you start the testimages? [01:53] no log files [01:53] what testimages ? [01:53] http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/download.html [01:54] lets check .. [01:55] mastercane: any image in particular ?? [01:56] take the first [01:56] linux-0.2 .. [01:56] downloading .. [01:58] mastercane: I got a shell [01:58] so only your image is broken, not the complete qemu I think [01:59] mastercane: tested dapper edgy centos 5 and 4 and all worked fine and those where installed on feisty host now feisty and gutsy as guests on gutsy host does not work [02:00] did you install the non working gutsy image on gutsy or was it created under feisty, to? [02:02] first feisty and gutsy where created on feisty and worked fine now upgraded the host to gutsy and the feisty and gutsy stopped working then make a gutsy guest on gutsy host and installed fine just needed to blacklist the PIIX_ATA to find the cdrom for install and installed fine then at boot this is the result [02:03] [02:03] without downloading the ISOs, how can i see whats on an install cds seed? [02:04] i'm sure ogra has told me in the past, but i dont remember :( [02:05] read this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/67256 [02:05] Launchpad bug 67256 in initramfs-tools ""-generic" kernel doesn't boot after upgrade to Edgy prerelease (but -386 does)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [02:11] any idea if ubuntu will remove all the extra indecies files for EOLd released like they removed the packages? [02:13] Kamping_Kaiser: are the packages for warty actually gone? [02:15] Burgundavia, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ the packages lists are gone [02:36] didn't worked and when boot in recovery mode hangs after detecting the eth0 and same error [02:55] Kamping_Kaiser: but the packages, at least the source onnes, must bge there for gpl reasons [03:01] Burgundavia, thtas possable, i dont know [03:21] * lamont waves from the colorado loco party [04:24] anyone here ever successfully configure SElinux with ubuntu-server? [04:24] everyone i have talked to in person says its impossible to configure properly, and to not waste my time with it [04:24] but since the NSA made it i think it might be worth the time [05:39] anyone know of a good dedicated server provider that installs ubuntu? [06:19] hey need help with remote mysql. receiving Could not connect to host '192.168.0.2'. [06:19] MySQL Error Nr. 2003 [06:19] Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.0.2' (111) [06:20] google didn't help [06:20] why does it have to be installed from the factory? [06:21] anyone have any ideas or what i should be looking for? === Catsceo is now known as WTFPUTITBACK === WTFPUTITBACK is now known as Catsceo [09:55] hi [09:55] how can i reconfigure/reset WHOLE network settings (interfaces, interface names, ip addreses and ptable rules) in ubuntu? any dpkg-recinfigure like command/way to do? [10:02] Ali_ix: No, that stuff is scattered a bit. [10:03] Ali_ix: Renaming of interfaces is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. [10:03] Ali_ix: ip address and such is in /etc/network/interfaces [10:03] Ali_ix: iptables is up to you. [10:04] soren: thanks for info, i have changed/added some network card and now whole network is messed up :| [10:06] Ali_ix: Which version of Ubuntu? [10:07] soren: Gutsy gibbon [10:08] soren: i thinks first thing is to name interfaces correctly [10:08] Ali_ix: Interface names should never change. [10:08] Ali_ix: That's that /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is there for. [10:10] soren: i have 3 network cards, i have problem finding the interface connected to a specific network! if i can name them like eth-local eth-net eth-wireless it makes easie to config :) [10:14] Ali_ix: Ah, right. [10:14] Ali_ix: but Ubuntu should never be changing the names unless you've told it to do so. [10:16] soren: yes, i thought there would be something to re arrange interfaces! after some nic change/removal i have som strange interface neames! eth0 eth3! and no eth2 and eth1! while the eth3 nic is the one from before nic changes ... 8} a bit confusing === Drazha290 is now known as Drazha [12:11] hi again :) [12:58] moin [14:31] I could use some documentation about packaging a restricted module for a selfmade kernel. obviously the old fashioned module-assistant method from debian doesn't work, th moduöe isn't found, i think because retriced manager expects it in a different place. Googled around for some time now, but gutsy docu isn't very widespread yet, it seems === fvsfvsv is now known as dendrobates === Drazha478 is now known as Drazha === dendrobates is now known as dendro-away [16:10] Is there a GUI for the server edition or is it strictly command line? === Drazha364 is now known as Drazha [16:59] can i see what packages have been upgraded in the last 2 apt-get upgrade s`? [17:02] do-release-upgrade froze, is there a way i could see exactly what it was doing and finish the upgrade myself? [17:03] it froze at the removing old packages stage [17:03] c1|freakyy: /var/lib/dpkg.log [17:03] c1|freakyy: /var/log/dpkg.log, I mean. [17:03] thank you [17:03] so autoremoved the old packages [17:04] but i don't want to restart the machine till i know its the newest version [17:04] what does do-release-upgrade do after removing old packages [17:04] it updated grub and everything already [17:05] last thing it did was update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-386 [17:17] seems to work === Drazha523 is now known as Drazha [18:50] hi, i recently did a do-release-upgrade on my server and when i came back a couple hours later it said the SSH session was terminated but i cant tell if the release upgrade was completed or not... what does this mean? [19:34] stiv2k: did you log back in? what does "lsb_release -a" say? [20:17] stiv2k: did it warn you about upgrading over ssh, and create an additional ssh server on port 9004 in case of problems? [20:18] so you might try ssh -p 9004 user@machine to get back in [20:31] nealmcb: i tried that but it said connection refused [20:31] No LSB modules are available. [20:31] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [20:31] Description: Ubuntu 7.10 [20:31] Release: 7.10 [20:31] Codename: gutsy [21:48] do i need to reboot the machine after upgrading to gutsy? [21:49] its acting extremely slow === steve___ is now known as stiv32k === stiv32k is now known as stiv2k [22:10] ok i have a serious problem [22:10] the server was being slow so i rebooted it and now 2 of my other filesystems arent showing up [22:10] ??? [22:11] steve@galatea:/$ sudo mount /home [22:11] [sudo] password for steve: [22:11] mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /home busy [22:11] steve@galatea:/$ ls -l /home [22:11] total 0 [22:59] help [22:59] someone [23:01] !weekend | stiv2k [23:01] stiv2k: It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. [23:01] ScottK: i see [23:01] * ScottK isn't the right person to help. Sorry. [23:01] dont put yourself down like that [23:02] :) [23:02] ivoks: can you help me [23:02] maybe [23:02] maybe is better than no [23:02] Not putting myself down, just file system issues aren't were my expertise is. [23:02] uff... file system issues... [23:02] i really need to get this fs mounted cause i wanna watch a movie :/ [23:03] well, the problem is? [23:03] ivoks: ok my /home is on a different partition, /dev/sda1 than my root [23:03] and after doing the dist-upgrade and rebooting [23:04] all of a sudden the /home filesystem is not there anymore [23:04] mount /dev/sda1 /home says [23:04] mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /home busy [23:04] but its not mounted [23:04] and im stuck [23:04] do you have evms installed? [23:04] yes [23:04] deinstall it [23:04] why? what is it [23:04] apt-get --purge remove emvs [23:05] if you don't know, you don't need it [23:05] enterprise volume management or something? [23:05] yes [23:05] still dont know what that is [23:05] also during the dist-upgrade my ssh session got terminated twice when it was doing update-initramfs [23:06] i dunno why [23:06] i doubt that was the reason [23:09] the update-initramfs takes forever... [23:12] the session gets terminated every time [23:12] ivoks: so what now? [23:12] now that evms is gone [23:13] i still cannot mount the drive [23:13] reboot [23:13] ok [23:14] * stiv2k hopes it works [23:15] YEAAA [23:15] ivoks: thanks a lot man [23:15] np [23:16] 'night all