[00:45] <joshk> Keybuk: can upstart parse quoted strings correctly on the kernel command line?
[00:46] <joshk> or even if it can't do it correctly, is there any way to make it happen?
[00:48] <Keybuk> popular question today
[00:48] <Keybuk> why the sudden interest in Upstart's ability to parse the kernel command-line?
[00:50] <joshk> never mind - it's apparently busybox init i'm worried about
[00:50] <joshk> whichever init is used to bootstrap the desktop CD
[00:51] <joshk> i did strings /sbin/init in the live cd environment and found a bunch of upstart, so I imagined that was it
[00:51] <joshk> but cjwatson proved me wrong
[00:52] <Keybuk> :-)
[12:37] <Keybuk> *yawn*
[12:37] <Keybuk> and damn, I'm almost the entire way through this notebook already
[13:05] <Keybuk> che: hi
[13:05] <che> Keybuk, heyyas
[13:06] <che> Keybuk, actually i see an rpath problem with 0.3.9: http://rafb.net/p/zvDiEk46.html
[13:06] <Keybuk> did you make install?
[13:06] <che> Keybuk, 0.3.9 example jobs link on the homepage is broken (yet i guess)
[13:06] <Keybuk> or did you copy files out of the build directories?
[13:06] <che> Keybuk, i used make install with DESTDIR set
[13:07] <Keybuk> example-job: fixed
[13:07] <che> Keybuk, nice.
[13:08] <Keybuk> can you do "objdump -p" on one of those files?
[13:09] <che> Keybuk, just give me 3 mins please. phone.
[13:09] <che> Keybuk, thanks btw
[13:10] <Keybuk> also some information about how you built them would be useful
[13:10] <Keybuk> I just checked the 0.3.9 packages here and they don't have those rpaths that I can tell
[13:14] <che> Keybuk, i will dump the info into pm
[13:14] <Keybuk> rafb urls are fine too :)
[15:11] <Keybuk> che: so the option that turns on those additional warnings was -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
[15:42] <Keybuk> meh, I hate header loops
[16:28] <Keybuk> bah
[16:28] <Keybuk> I'm going to have to make a header file for just one struct
[16:28] <Keybuk> I can tell
[16:28] <Keybuk> :'(
[16:30]  * Jc2k offers Keybuk a shoulder to cry on
[16:52] <AlexExtreme> mmm, interesting
[16:52] <AlexExtreme> tesco are selling ubuntu PC's
[16:52] <AlexExtreme> *PCs
[16:52] <AlexExtreme> http://daviey.mooo.com/uncategorized/tesco-every-little-helps.html
[16:55] <Keybuk> yeah I saw that
[18:20] <Keybuk> hmm, back to the code then
[18:24] <Keybuk> the config stuff feels like it's getting unnecessarily complicated
[19:43] <Keybuk> trying to decide
[19:43] <Keybuk> is it really necessary that Upstart handles a job of the same name being defined in two places?
[19:46] <ion_> Probably not.
[19:46] <ion_> Unless there are some use cases, which i can’t think of. :-)
[19:46] <ion_> s/can’t think of/don’t notice immediately/
[19:47] <Keybuk> so what should it do?
[19:47] <Keybuk> error when you try and load the second one?
[19:47] <Keybuk> the trouble then is if you HUP, you might get the other one surprisingly
[19:57] <ion_> True...
[19:57] <Keybuk> which would be odd
[20:10] <Keybuk> of course, I could take away the ability to define multiple configuration directories entirely
[20:10] <Keybuk> that would solve the conflict problem, since the filesystem namespace would apply
[20:11] <ion_> Yeah
[20:18] <Keybuk> hmm
[20:53] <ion_> http://arcanux.org/lambdacats/tail-recursion.jpg
[20:53] <AlexExtreme> hehe
[20:54] <Keybuk> :)