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| Infopirate | what is the difference between edubuntu and regular ubuntu?? | 05:22 |
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| nrp | edubuntu desktop comes with additional education (k-12, mostly) related packages. edubuntu server/workstation comes with LTSP preconfigured to set up a "classroom environment" with thin clients | 05:24 |
| Infopirate | nice.... | 05:25 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 15:25 |
| attunix | ! #ubuntu-general | 17:25 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-general - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 17:25 |
| === JamMasterJ is now known as JordanC | ||
| Rplata | Fresh install users can not switch users... They have to log off to switch users. | 20:16 |
| Rplata | Also compiz says no whitelisted drivers found... | 20:17 |
| sbalneav | Rplata: this on the console? Or for thin clients? | 20:33 |
| Rplata | Thin clients both issues. | 20:33 |
| Rplata | I installed nvidia drivers in chroot | 20:34 |
| sbalneav | Switching users won't work on thin clients. | 20:34 |
| sbalneav | And neither will compiz | 20:35 |
| Rplata | No says user not logged in console or something... I had to leave though. I'm on the road. | 20:36 |
| sbalneav | The fast switcher app won't work for thin clients | 20:37 |
| sbalneav | Just remove it from the panel. | 20:37 |
| Rplata | Compiz says no whitelisted drivers found. | 20:37 |
| sbalneav | And compiz doesn't like to work remotely | 20:37 |
| Rplata | Oh ok. | 20:38 |
| sbalneav | Compiz wants to have the video card local. | 20:38 |
| Rplata | The swith user button doesn't work when i clixk log out button. | 20:38 |
| sbalneav | No, it won't | 20:39 |
| sbalneav | It should be disabled. | 20:39 |
| Rplata | Oh ok. Can i remove the button somehow? | 20:39 |
| sbalneav | Both the fast user switcher, and the switch user button rely on the users being local, but they don't locally exist on the thin client. | 20:39 |
| Rplata | Will it ever work? | 20:40 |
| sbalneav | We don't currently have a way to remove it. | 20:40 |
| sbalneav | No. | 20:40 |
| Rplata | Ok | 20:40 |
| sbalneav | Well, not unless they radically change the way it works. | 20:40 |
| sbalneav | Locally, it relies on simply giving access to your X cookies to switch to another user | 20:41 |
| Rplata | Another question what are some of the causes of client slowness? | 20:41 |
| sbalneav | but that doesn't work across remote X connections. | 20:41 |
| sbalneav | Have you enabled LDM_DIRECTX = True? | 20:41 |
| Rplata | No | 20:41 |
| sbalneav | By default, all traffic between the client and server is encrypted. | 20:41 |
| sbalneav | Enabling LDM_DIRECTX = True eliminates the encryption, which, for slow clients, can be a major slow down. | 20:42 |
| Rplata | Ok. My clients aren't slow two ghz system ... | 20:43 |
| Rplata | Or is that slow? | 20:43 |
| sbalneav | Well, even that fast will have a bit of latency with the added encryption. | 20:44 |
| sbalneav | And, keep in mind, a thin client will never be as fast as a local login. | 20:44 |
| sbalneav | Network speed is also a factor. | 20:44 |
| Rplata | Ok. I'll try that. Btw lts.conf wasn't installed by default? Is that normal? | 20:45 |
| sbalneav | Yep. | 20:45 |
| sbalneav | Normally, it isn't needed anymore. Defaults work fine out of the box. | 20:45 |
| Rplata | Ok well i had to update ssh keys and rebuild image to grt mine working ootb. Think i have an install issue? | 20:47 |
| Rplata | Or is it just finnicky? | 20:47 |
| sbalneav | Was this a fresh install or an upgrade? | 20:47 |
| Rplata | Fresh | 20:47 |
| sbalneav | And, did you change the networking after you installed it | 20:48 |
| sbalneav | If you change any networking (i.e. change IP addresses, or the like) you need to update the sshkeys and rebuild the image, that's perfectly normal. | 20:48 |
| Rplata | Ok that was it then. Are future releases going to have initial setup for secondary subnet for alternate nic on install? | 20:50 |
| sbalneav | Should be that by default. | 20:51 |
| sbalneav | If you have an unconfigured nic, it should assign it 192.168.0.254, and enable it for ltsp use. | 20:51 |
| Rplata | My network uses 192.168.0.x so i changed clients to worj on 10.0.0.x | 20:52 |
| sbalneav | Ah, well, if you touch it manually, then it won't automagically happen. You'll have to do some manual config. | 20:52 |
| sbalneav | But it's rather minor, just the update-sshkeys, and the update image. | 20:53 |
| sbalneav | I think for Hardy, we're planning a gui tool to manage the chroot. | 20:53 |
| Rplata | Yeah ok. Thanks for all of the help! Anything major coming up for the next release? Ie. New cool stuff? | 20:54 |
| Rplata | Nice! | 20:54 |
| sbalneav | I think localapps will work. That's been years coming :) | 20:54 |
| Rplata | What do you mean? | 20:55 |
| sbalneav | For larger thin clients, running some apps locally, like Firefox, or VOIP phone software. | 20:56 |
| Rplata | Awesome! Will that require hdd's? | 20:57 |
| sbalneav | No, shouldn't. | 20:57 |
| sbalneav | Otherwise, it wouldn't be a thin client, would it? :) | 20:58 |
| Rplata | How will it work? | 20:58 |
| sbalneav | The UDS is coming up soon. Keep an eye on the specs, you'll see all the details there. | 20:59 |
| Rplata | Uds? | 20:59 |
| sbalneav | Ubuntu Developer's Summit | 21:00 |
| Rplata | Oh ok cool. Think compiz will be one if those local things? | 21:01 |
| sbalneav | I'll be blunt. Personally, I have no interest in seeing compiz working on thin clients, as I have no use for compiz. If someone else wants to do the work to make it work, then it'll happen. But I won't be working on it :) Most of the thin clients I deal with aren't capable of running compiz anyway. | 21:02 |
| Rplata | Ok. Thanks for all the help. Keep up the good work! | 21:03 |
| stgraber | sbalneav: any idea when will the Edubuntu specs be registered on LP (proposed for UDS scheduling) ? | 21:04 |
| sbalneav | stgraber: No idea. I was going to enter in a couple of specs later on today. I don't know who's entering specs. | 21:05 |
| sbalneav | I guess, just enter whatever one's your interested in :) | 21:05 |
| attunix | What libraries are needed to develop in QT? | 21:10 |
| sbalneav | attunix: You ran off last night | 21:11 |
| sbalneav | I had worked out a command line you could use to compile. | 21:12 |
| attunix | sbalneav: yeah, I know. :P | 21:12 |
| attunix | oh | 21:12 |
| attunix | sorry :( | 21:12 |
| attunix | I got it working, anyway :P | 21:12 |
| sbalneav | Wow | 21:13 |
| sbalneav | just | 21:13 |
| sbalneav | wow | 21:13 |
| sbalneav | I was looking up the QT libs for him. | 21:13 |
| sbalneav | He pulled the exact same stunt last night | 21:13 |
| attunix | How do I get Edubuntu to mount my floppy drive? It says "mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified." | 23:26 |
| attunix | I'll try formatting it and see what happens.... | 23:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 23:28 |
| attunix | It works! :) | 23:30 |
| attunix | just needed a little formatting....:P | 23:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 23:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Amaranth, morning mate | 23:31 |
| Skratz0r | Hey duders... | 23:49 |
| Skratz0r | Whats the difference between Ubuntu and the rest? (Edu, k, go, etc) | 23:50 |
| Skratz0r | BBL dudes | 23:50 |
| Skratz0r | (Idling) | 23:50 |
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