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WaltzingAlongsdlnxgk: wonderful so long as no problem has yet been encountered it must be great00:00
wertycan i play games on zone.com through wine?00:00
Linux_Galorefor the CD covers00:00
AT0M1CB0MB3Rpoty: ew envy :[00:00
WaltzingAlongsdlnxgk: but seriously, take a look at what it is doing and how it does that00:00
sdlnxgkDr_willis, most people don't go to the CLI to install and have problems00:00
Dr_willis_One good thing about Gutsy. it makes Automatix and envy. less and less needed.. (not that they were needed befor) :)00:00
AT0M1CB0MB3Rpoty: broke my friends box pretty bad00:00
nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: I think its in kubuntu-default-settings00:00
Dr_willis_I will stick with the 'restricted-manager' tool for my simple needs00:01
Tm_Tenvy is Bad, end of discussion00:01
sdlnxgknow I tried to install nVidia drivers myself  and it broke my system and had to use envy -t  from the CLI to fix it00:01
sdlnxgkTm_T,  I guess to each his own till bitten00:01
WaltzingAlongTm_T: sure bad but why00:01
Dr_willis_of course if nvidia and ati would both get their acts together..  life would be better...00:01
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: what I find amusing is the CD cover artwork is not on any of the wiki/kubuntu related websites00:01
sdlnxgkDr_willis, I play games on mine so had to fix the driver issue00:02
nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: ah..... i'm not sure where that is00:02
Dr_willis_Tm_T,  your system can get updated one day.. then fail to boot to X after the update..00:02
joheyHow do I set a WEP key for my wireless network interface? In System Settings->Network Settings, when setting a hexadecimal WEP key, the settings are forgotten after applying.00:02
Dr_willis_IRC is the Ultimate Game.00:02
sdlnxgkDr_willis,  ya but that is in a perfect world00:02
Tm_TWaltzingAlong: scripts that does break are bad in official channels00:02
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: Im running of a batch of CD's and I want to put some artwork on the covers00:02
sdlnxgktrying to find monitor settings with the new KDE00:02
WaltzingAlongBrightEyes`: perhaps you come across http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_toc.html#TOC21 thanks to google00:03
edenbeastjohey those settings are stored in /etc/network/interfaces00:03
WaltzingAlongTm_T: ok so there you have it sdlnxgk; envy is bad because it can break things and this is an official kubuntu support channel; nothing about it may or may not work for some people; just that it can break and does so in undesirable ways00:03
intelikeyhmmm if i bring up eth0 then i loose the ability to access www (ppp0)  but ifconfig eth0 down restores the connection on ppp0     any thoughts ?00:03
Dr_willis_Kubuntu set up both my wide screen monitors good. :) well after i installed the nvidia drivers.00:03
basculejohey: I also think that the wallet can hold them for you00:03
OakboxDr_willis_: with compiz, if i run compiz --replace it runs compiz for one session or forever?00:03
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  just that time..00:04
WaltzingAlongOakbox: current session00:04
joheyedenbeast: Cool. I have looked in that file, and there is no WEP key configuration as far as I can see. Where can I find an example of how to set it in that file manually?00:04
Oakboxta00:04
AT0M1CB0MB3Ranybody trying to make linux from scratch?00:04
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  and if you Kill that terminal. it may kill compiz. :)  use the exit command to close the shell.00:04
edenbeastjohey 1 sec I'll give you one00:04
sdlnxgkWaltzingAlong,  I believe ya when you say it can break things but for all three of my systems it has run flawless00:04
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i tried Linux From Scratch Once.. dident see much point in it. :)00:04
smaxhi00:04
Dr_willis_You do learn a lot i guess. :)00:04
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: to learn?00:04
Tm_Tsdlnxgk: doesnt mztter here00:04
smaxhow do i know if nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new is prefered ?00:04
joheybascule: Hm. The wallet is per user, right? I want the NIC to be enabled at boot time, before logging in.00:05
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  but it dident teach me anything i dident allready know - other then to 'cut/paste wait' continue...00:05
wertyhow can i open iptraf00:05
WaltzingAlongsmax: preferred is the one that works with your card; check the website for the list00:05
WaltzingAlong!nvidia | smax00:05
ubotusmax: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:05
basculejohey: ah, then you need to set it in some file00:05
sdlnxgkanyone know where monitor settings are in the new KDE??00:05
smaxi have used nvidia-glx in the past.  i'll just stick with that.00:05
basculesdlnxgk: peripherals00:05
sdlnxgkor how to install sysinfo for Konqueror??00:05
intelikeyis it my routing table that's hosed ?00:05
sdlnxgkbascule, it's not listed in peripherals00:06
joheysdlnxgk: I have seen some monitor settings in System Settings->Monitor and Display.00:06
edenbeastjohey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41448/  this is for a static configuration dhcp would be easier (you get to omit a lot of stuff ;-) )00:06
stdinsdlnxgk: put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts00:06
smaxhow can i boot linux with out it invoking kde?00:06
Dr_willis_to configure the monitors on the nvida cards - i thouhg one used the 'nvidia-xconfig' tool00:06
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: did you try to make a live cd?00:06
intelikeytesting00:06
sdlnxgkJohey in the old version yes I have seen that but not the new version of KDE00:06
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: that seems difficult00:06
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  nope. I tend touse SLAX to tweak my own live cd's00:06
andreasjust out os curiosity: Why does Gutsy use /dev/sd{a,b,..} instead of /dev/hd{a,b,..}? Any bigger changes in the handling of IDE-HDDs?00:06
basculesdlnxgk: neither it is, control centre, you'll see it00:07
intelikeyah looks like i'm still recieving this time.00:07
wertyhow can i open iptraf?00:07
sdlnxgkbascule, don't see control center in new version of KDE00:07
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: how do i install ati tool00:07
edenbeastandres are they sata disks maybe?00:07
sdlnxgkmaybe i'm missing something00:07
intelikeywerty konsole type iptraf ?00:07
basculesdlnxgk: system settings, Soth00:07
basculesorry00:07
smaxi need to run nvidia-xconfig for glx to work with my card.  if i boot with my card installed i have a black screen upon loading kde.  a paradox.00:07
WaltzingAlongandreas: not used only for sata disks but using that interface00:07
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  no idea - look in the repos for it. I dont have any ati systems any more. Theres the !ati factoid also.00:07
tysonswI need a big help and quick.. my computer says that the command "deb" doesn't exist.. what do I do?00:08
Dr_willis_!find ati00:08
ubotuFound: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-gutenprint, foomatic-db-hpijs (and 147 others)00:08
sdlnxgkbascule, don't see system settings00:08
BrightEyes`how can i remove the boot loader from MBR ?00:08
joheyThanks alot, edenbeast! I will try to adapt those settings for me.00:08
AT0M1CB0MB3R!ati00:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:08
intelikeytysonsw the command 'deb' does not exist.00:08
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  you instgall a different boot loader over it normally.00:08
basculesdlnxgk: off the menu, I have it00:08
AT0M1CB0MB3R!fglrx00:08
WaltzingAlongsmax: if no kde shows, ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty1 then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure x00:08
Linux_Galorebet they released Gutsy and havent done the artwork yet00:08
IkeKrullandreas: kernel devs decided to change all ide hard disks to use the sata driver layer around kernel 2.6.2000:08
joheyedenbeast: Are those really generated by the Network Settings in Kubuntu?00:08
sdlnxgkbascule, I have system settings but nothing with monitor00:08
prakhow do i unlock a locked dpkg session?00:08
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  depending on exactly what you are trying to do. You might want to use the dd command to zero it out. That might whipe the whole hd also.00:08
intelikeytysonsw what are you trying to do?00:09
tysonswintelikey on this page they state that I should wright that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion00:09
prak!lock00:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:09
BrightEyes`Dr_willis_: how can grub automatically find my o/s like on kubuntu installation?00:09
prak!unlook00:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unlook - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:09
prak!unlock00:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:09
sdlnxgkbascule, the new KDE 3.5 is set up a little different00:09
prak!dpkg00:09
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.00:09
prak!info dpkg00:09
ubotudpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.14.5ubuntu16 (gutsy), package size 2123 kB, installed size 6712 kB00:09
wertyi'va allready tried that:i think the app runs but there nothing on the monitor...00:09
basculesdlnxgk: I have it in system administration odd, anyway, alt+f2 kcontrol then go to peripherals00:09
ardchoille!adeptfix00:09
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:09
stdintysonsw: you add it as a repository, not in konsole00:09
intelikeytysonsw show me what you typed in, or pasted in.00:09
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  Im not sure what command/how to make  grub rescan the system like the installer does.00:09
AT0M1CB0MB3Rprak: next time privet message him00:10
Dr_willis_BrightEyes`,  i normally just manually add the entrys i need to the menu.lst file00:10
andreasWaltzingAlong: strange, i have no sata, just plain old ide, but all my drives are referenced through sda, sdb (KDE, partitioning utility and default-maountpoints) /etc/ffstab still comments them as /dev/hda etc..00:10
WaltzingAlongBrightEyes`: in grub interface you can do something like setup or something. try help when you get there00:10
prakAT0M1CBOMBER: why private message?00:10
tysonswintelikey deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main00:10
prakthe bot?00:10
WaltzingAlongandreas: i can find the link explaining it00:10
sdlnxgkbascule, thanks will try that i'm going crazy here with this new KDE version thought maybe I didn't install something00:10
Dr_willis_Grub does not 'scan' the system and make the menu.lst thats some tool of the installer.00:10
edenbeastBrightEyes`: the MBR is the first 512 part of your hd so dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<your device> bs=512 count=1  should do the trick00:10
sdlnxgkbascule, I just have login manager there00:11
Dr_willis_and leave him with a unbootable system. :)00:11
stdin!msgthebot | prak00:11
ubotuprak: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...00:11
basculesdlnxgk: well perhaps, I have always had sytem settongs at the bottom of the kmenu00:11
edenbeastBrightEyes`: but please make sure you have a bootdisk and back up your MBR first!00:11
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wertyi'va allready tried that:i think the app is running but there nothing on the monitor...(iptraf)00:11
tomer_phi all00:11
BrightEyes`edenbeast: ok im not going to do anything00:11
edenbeastDr_willis well he asked how to nuke the MBR :-|00:11
tomer_phow do i get the source code for my /usr/bin/tail00:11
tomer_pprogram, using adept00:11
vervek, so i'm upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy.. i think it finished, it's at the cleanup stage, asks me if i want to remove obsolete packages.. i say Remove, it works for about a minute then crashes00:11
Dr_willis_edenbeast,  yep..  asked how to make a noose to hang hiself. :)00:11
andreasIkeKrull: ah, ok that explains it. needs a bit of getting used to00:12
vervewhat should i do?00:12
ververe-run Adept?00:12
WaltzingAlongandreas: but i think it is just because the old access was slow and such but the sata access was faster and a better future platform       perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-422336.html00:12
Linux_Galoreheh, Always use the Italian Ubuntu Gutsy artwork heh -> http://loeil.tonsite.biz/wp-content/2007/07/sexy-ubuntu.jp00:12
Dr_willis_!find tail00:12
ubotuFound: logtail, whiptail, inotail, libfile-tail-perl, multitail (and 5 others)00:12
sdlnxgkbascule,  I only have digital camera, joystick, keyboard, mouse, printers, remote  controls, storage media inside Peripherals :(00:12
Linux_Galoreheh, Always use the Italian Ubuntu Gutsy artwork heh -> http://loeil.tonsite.biz/wp-content/2007/07/sexy-ubuntu.jpg00:12
Linux_Galoreoops00:12
intelikeytysonsw as stdin said,  you put that in the wrong place is all.   but you can use the konsole and,     echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list     if you like.00:12
basculesdlnxgk: very strange ....00:12
Dr_willis_tomer_p,  that would be part of some larger package i belive. Not sure which one tail comes in.00:12
werty!find iptraf00:12
verveanyone!?00:12
ubotuFound: iptraf00:12
andreasWaltzingAlong: Thank you, that explains it. good to know. Is there a symlink to /dev/hda or are those indentifiers not usable any more?00:13
wertyops00:13
sdlnxgkbascule, very stranger indeed maybe when I upgraded KDE I forgot something will go back and look at package list00:13
gameforgeSo I am trying to run compiz in Kubuntu Gutsy but it has no window borders, and no hint of a window manager - I have gnome-desktop installed for fun, and it works great under gnome - using fglrx/ATI driver... what should I do?  Emerald and compiz are both running and not displaying errors...00:13
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: why does my adept manager say full upgrade00:13
tomer_pok but generally speaking, how can i get the source code for some package that i install using adept00:13
basculetomer_p: well it belongs to package core-utils, so get the source for that00:13
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: and version upgrade00:13
WaltzingAlongandreas: accessed via sda instead afaik00:13
basculesdlnxgk: kde admin or kde-admin00:13
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: im on gutsy00:13
prakis it possible to upgrade to gutsy by booting the alternative cd?00:13
tomer_pbascule: ok how do i get the source for core-utils?00:13
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  theres a bug in the package manager tool where it says you can upgrade even after you are Up to date.00:13
gameforgeYes that's another issue I'm having since upgrading to Gutsy, my adept still has a "Version Upgrade" button00:13
Dr_willis_gameforge,  ignore the button00:14
gameforgek :)00:14
WaltzingAlonggameforge: known issue00:14
sdlnxgkbascule, will give that a shot thanks for your help!!00:14
stdin!source | tomer_p00:14
awagcan anyone here help me with configuring strigi?00:14
ubotutomer_p: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html00:14
Dr_willis_got to be faq #3 :)00:14
WaltzingAlongprak: start feisty. insert the cd. then upgrade from the cd00:14
Linux_Galoreanyone got a link for the Kubuntu Gutsy artwork, dare say this image http://loeil.tonsite.biz/wp-content/2007/07/sexy-ubuntu.jpg qont be the best to use heh00:14
Linux_Galorewont*00:14
gameforgeSo what about my other issue, compiz running with no window borders/trace of a window manager?00:14
andreasWaltzingAlong: hm ok, hope I remember this when I need it the first time. Thank you00:14
WaltzingAlongandreas: :D00:15
gameforgeAnd I can't seem to rotate cube or anything00:15
gameforge?00:15
Dr_willis_!compiz00:15
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion00:15
Dr_willis_gameforge,  install emerald like that guide says00:15
gameforgeLike I said before, emerald is running00:15
prakWaltzingAlong: i'm doing just that as instructed in http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading, except i'm hitting some bugs00:15
Dr_willis_Then ya did somthing else wrong.00:15
praki mean error messages00:15
WaltzingAlongprak: such as?00:16
Linux_Galoregameforge: emerald isnt compiz its a manager00:16
Dr_willis_:) i would say restart the X serrver perhaps. and try reruning compiz --replace00:16
verveam i muted or something? or is it just no one is answering me at all?00:16
gameforgeWell, I started with beryl, then ditched that since compiz-fusion came out, but I've never been able to get it to work - I was hoping gutsy would fix it00:16
Dr_willis_well if you had beryl on there befor.. I got no idea what may be confiused.00:16
tysonswintelikey it wont work.. it is just stuck at " sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list"00:16
gameforgeI know - I run compiz, it tells me it's starting emerald, and my window borders disappear00:16
wertyif ihave ubuntu can i change to kubuntu and hpw?00:16
Dr_willis_I did a clean install of gutsy.00:16
wertyhow00:16
WaltzingAlonggameforge: but kde4 should have beryl-like effects00:16
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: me too00:16
stdin!kde00:16
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.00:16
Linux_GaloreI wont be using compiz until about kde 4.100:17
WaltzingAlongwerty: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop           or through synaptic install kubuntu-desktop          then when you log in, select kde as the session instead of gnome00:17
Dr_willis_werty,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop00:17
intelikeytysonsw ctrl+C00:17
gameforgeI thought that, although at this point I'm working in a brand new account, and beryl is definitely uninstalled and removed00:17
prakWaltzingAlong: "unable to get exclusive lock" message00:17
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: i really hate that bug tho :[ grrrr/rawr/moo/meow00:17
fulat2khi folks, any idea why NetworkManager is using 100% of CPU resources on Gutsy?00:17
kaminixI won't be using Compiz until I get a computer with a better chipset :p00:17
tysonswintelikey sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list00:17
WaltzingAlong!aptfix | prak00:17
ubotuprak: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:17
gameforgeLike I said before, it works great under gnome, I have gnome-desktop installed for fun00:17
WaltzingAlonggameforge: sure it is meant for gnome as far as i know00:18
UnluckyMikeI'm having problems with the default rt61pci drivers that shipped with gutsy, I'm running the serialmonkey drivers now. They work fine as long as I use the rutilt config program that they made for the driver, but when I try to manually config with iwpriv the driver dies. dmesg isn't showing anything wrong. Any ideas?00:18
basculetomer_p: apt-get source core-utils00:18
Dr_willis_theres a very good reason that compiz is NOT isntalled on Kubuntu by default. :)00:18
gameforgeWaltzingAlong: So it's an emerald issue, I believe... what can I do?00:18
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: what does the fglrx tool do00:18
wertybut then will i be able to change between kde and gnome?00:18
WaltzingAlonggameforge: stumble through?00:18
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  thts the name of the ati driver..  configures the ati stuff i would guess00:18
gameforgeDr_willis_: Yeah, I figured that much - but it's upsetting that emerald _used_ to work way back when with beryl00:18
Dr_willis_werty,  of course.00:18
VDrakejolas00:18
WaltzingAlonggameforge: (i have no compbiz on here anyway, sorry, need to ask someone else)00:18
wertyhow? ;)00:19
Dr_willis_gameforge,  it works for me now. :)00:19
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: but it does nothing im in it right now :[00:19
gameforgeDr_willis_: are you using fglrx?00:19
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  no idea. i dont have a single ati machine any more. ive not messed with ati in over a year.00:19
tysonswintelikey sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list00:19
Dr_willis_gameforge,  nope. nvidia00:19
gameforgeDr_willis_: figures :(00:19
Dr_willis_I dont plan on buying ati any time again  soon.00:19
Oakboxyay compiz running ok so far BUT i seem to have 4 desktops showing on my pannel and only two that work :S00:20
intelikeytysonsw i never said that.   sorry for being vague.   i assumed you knew what the pipe symbol did.00:20
UnluckyMikeanyone know anything bout rt61 wireless?00:20
Dr_willis_next laptop i get WILL be nvidia also.. :)00:20
edenbeastmaybe in a few years when those open sourced drivers will be kicking ass :D00:20
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  set the # of desktops using the compiz settings manager tool.  not the kde tool00:20
gameforgeYep, I'm tired of ATI as well, but I have a laptop with an ATI card.... :(00:20
tysonswintelikey no.. sry.. I should have tol you <---- linux newbie00:20
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: i might get a gforce whats the best one?00:20
Dr_willis_gameforge,  my ati laptop cant even handle compiz.00:20
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  whatever your budget can afford.00:21
intelikeytysonsw press the control key and the c key togather and close the konsole before we break something00:21
awagcan anyone here help me with configuring strigi? i upgraded to 7.10 the other day, and strigi doesn't seem to be able to find files very well for me00:21
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: what is the best one?00:21
gameforgeDr_willis_: Well, I have a Radeon Mob. 9600, and it used to do Beryl great - also have a 9800 Pro in my desktop00:21
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  BEST IS  whatever your budget can afford.00:21
tysonswintelikey done00:21
gameforgeSo has anyone got emerald/compiz to work with ATI on KDE?00:21
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: they arent that expensive00:21
intelikey!repos | tysonsw please read this link.00:21
ubotutysonsw please read this link.: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu00:21
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  nvidia cards range from $60 to $600.......00:22
Dr_willis_i got a $300 8800gtsXXX in this box.00:22
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmy computer costs $4000 built it from scratch :]00:23
intelikeytysonsw you should probably use that page to setup the sources list.   read carefully, if you have questions, just ask.00:23
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i would say you proberly got ripped off then.00:23
Dr_willis_but it all depends on your needs.00:23
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: and income :D00:24
AT0M1CB0MB3Rjk00:24
AT0M1CB0MB3Rit cost 40000:24
Dr_willis_I got a C64 that cost like $400 - 30+ yrs ago...00:24
AT0M1CB0MB3Rit was a typo00:24
Dr_willis_I got a decent $700 system the other day on sale.00:24
Dr_willis_then added a $300 card.00:24
tysonswintelikey the problem I have is how to istall ccsm on this system.. I have already read that page and.. that didn't make me smarter00:24
tomer_pguys, there ISNT a core-utils package00:25
Dr_willis_sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager00:25
hydrogenhmm00:25
stdintomer_p: "coreutils"00:25
Dr_willis_to install the ccsm tool.00:25
hydrogenwhat kind of adventures would I be in for if I tried to move my root partition from one drive to another?00:25
WaltzingAlong!partimage | hydrogen should be enjoyable otherwise dd00:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partimage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:26
tomer_pok found it thatks00:26
Dr_willis_hydrogen,  you would need to   boot a live cd , fix the fstab. and grub/menu.lst and perhaps remake the   initrd file00:26
tysonswDr_willis_ that doesn't work.. I have already tried.. it can't download the file either00:26
hydrogenWaltzingAlong: I know how to move it.. I'm more wonder about what would need to be updated to make kubuntu actually work00:26
WaltzingAlongso perhaps the first step is rewording the task00:26
hydrogenDr_willis_: yea, thats mostly what I thought..00:26
hydrogenWaltzingAlong: no, I asked what adventures would moving it from one drive to another cause, not how to move it from one drive to another00:27
hydrogenWaltzingAlong: the first step in responding is reading the question :M)00:27
hydrogenwhere'd that M come from?00:27
tysonswintelikey the problem I have is how to istall ccsm on this system.. I have already read that page and.. that didn't make me smarter00:27
Dr_willis_tysonsw,  it the proper way to do it. Your repos may be messed up/slow, or you need to update/upgrade.00:27
joheyedenbeast: I am not very used to configuring wireless networks. I don't really know what is what. I only know my ESSID and some key (which I thaught was a WEP key) on the form xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx where all x's are hex numbers. Isn't that enough information to set up my network?00:28
hydrogenDr_willis_: what if I wanted to install grub on the other drive and use that as the boot loader? is there a pretty way to do that in *buntu or would I just run grub-install ?00:28
Dr_willis_hydrogen,  sudo grub-install /dev/whatever00:28
edenbeastjohey yes if you set it up as using dhcp, then it'll pull all the other info from your router or your isp00:28
hydrogenokay00:28
hydrogenso theres no pretty way :)00:28
tysonswDr_willis_ the console states that the package compizconfig-settings-manager doesn't exist00:28
Dr_willis_hydrogen,  whats moving grub going to acomplish? :)00:28
* hydrogen looks around for a kubuntu cd00:28
WaltzingAlongjohey: at the console you could use sudo iwlist eth1 scanning                to see which key is expected00:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rit has a amd64 athlon +3000  2.7ghz 1gb ram |2 harddrives 500gb / 200gb |ati 9550 256mb |6 ,12v fans|Plexiglass case|two dvd / cd burners| 6 red/white/blue leds|and 9 usb 2.0 ports00:29
WaltzingAlongtype of key*00:29
Dr_willis_tysonsw,  then you need to fix your repositories, and/or sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade00:29
basculehmmm, signal 11 on x ....00:29
Dr_willis_or theres a typo.. lets check00:29
Dr_willis_!find compiz00:29
ubotuFound: compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (and 15 others)00:29
hydrogenDr_willis_: I don't want to mess around with grub and multiple hd's and windows overriding and all that mess.. so I'd rather put linux on my external hd and install grub onto that.. so fi I want to boot into linux I just boot off of my external hd, if I want to run windows I boot off the internal00:29
tomer_phow do i untar a tar.bz2 file?00:30
Dr_willis_ompizconfig-settings-manager - Compiz configuration settings manager00:30
basculehey source guy, it's coreutils not core-utils00:30
hydrogentomer_p: tar -xjf file00:30
Dr_willis_!info compizconfig-settings-manage00:30
ubotuPackage compizconfig-settings-manage does not exist in gutsy00:30
tomer_pok thanks00:30
WaltzingAlongtomer_p: tar xfvj file.tar.bz200:30
joheyWaltzingAlong: Do you mean the line "Encryption key:on"?00:30
basculetomer_p: it's coreutils not core-utils00:30
Dr_willis_Hmm-- thers a typo going on somewhere..00:30
stdin!info compizconfig-settings-manager00:30
ubotucompizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB00:30
basculetomer_p: why do you want the source?00:30
Dr_willis_!info compizconfig-settings-manager00:30
stdinDr_willis_:  needed an r at the end :)00:30
WaltzingAlongjohey: no a bit further than that00:31
tomer_pi want to mess around with tail and have my own version00:31
Dr_willis_heh..00:31
tomer_pa version that beeps on every new line00:31
tysonswDr_willis_ thanks for the help with the update.. now it worked00:31
Dr_willis_tomer_p,  that would be about a 3 line perl script. :)00:31
basculetomer_p: cool00:31
tomer_ptail -fb file00:31
WaltzingAlongtomer_p: could just set konsole to beep on event00:31
tomer_pwill beep00:31
AT0M1CB0MB3RWOW I HATE MY ATI CARD!!!!00:31
tomer_pnahh that would be too easy i want to do it in C00:32
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmy computer is so slow because of it00:32
tomer_pim a bored programmer and looking for challanges00:32
tomer_p(non c/c++ coding does not count)00:32
joheyWaltzingAlong: ESSID, Protocol, Mode, Channel, Frequency, Encryption key, Bit Rates, Quality and Extra are all that are there.00:33
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  thers some nice low end nvidia cards :)00:33
WaltzingAlongtomer_p: squash some bugs: http://launchpad.net00:33
dvayanunext point... my ssh stoped working...00:33
Agent_bobtomer_p write a configuration tool with an ncurses and qt interfaces that works like knetwork-manager and firestarter  all in one.00:34
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,   they got a fanless card out now for like $50 ive been looking at for my quite-workstation-media-player pc00:34
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: im fed up with my ati card im just gonig to break it in half and00:34
dvayanustrace shows it hangs in read(12...00:34
snikkerwhen i go in "systemsettings" --> display, an error message say that's impossible to load the display module... can you help me?00:34
basculetomer_p: I have no idea where apt-get source downloads to ... :)00:34
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: poor water on it00:34
Dr_willis_bascule,  i  though it went to the current diretory00:34
Agent_bobtomer_p something that the network illiterate can use to configure their own server00:34
dvayanussh to a comp in local lan works, ssh from another computer to internet works00:34
WaltzingAlongjohey: ok maybe it is not in that list with wep though i thought it was00:35
basculeDr_willis_: it does00:35
dvayanuonly from my gutsy to internet doesnt00:35
basculeDr_willis_: thanks .. :)00:35
Agent_bobbascule /var/cache/apt/archives00:35
tomer_pwell i need to work my way up the food chain00:35
cobello5hi I am trying to set up guarddog on a ppp0 interface, but when it is activated it stops the connection dead00:35
WaltzingAlong!info guarddog00:35
ubotuguarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB00:35
tomer_pim very experienced programmer but do not know how to build for debian/ubuntu00:35
dvayanuoh, i correct myself no outgoing connections work anymore00:35
cobello5yes i have it already - it was part of my install00:35
Dr_willis_cobello5,  sounds like its working. :)00:35
cobello5its not on now00:36
basculetomer_p: there are loads of tuts out there, or join #ubuntu-dev00:36
cobello5its deactivated00:36
Dr_willis_you just need to enable the holes to allow what you want through.00:36
dvayanuconnect(12, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/ssh-ZYCNm11189/agent.11189.seahorse"}00:36
joheyedenbeast: Okay, I'm using DHCP. In your file, there is a "wireless_key" with a long hex string. Is that related to the WEP?00:36
cobello5when I apply it the internet no longer works00:36
edenbeastjohey yes00:36
zhlinhi00:36
dvayanuall ssh clients hang shortly after passing this instruction00:36
tomer_pbascule: thanks will do00:36
zhlinwow, so many people here00:36
cobello5when Ive used guardog before internet browsing is already 'opened'00:36
basculehi zhlin00:37
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: what is better GeForce 7800 GS or GeForce 7600 GT00:37
cobello5and in the protocols section http is ticked00:37
zhlinhi bascule00:37
stdinwtf: please change your nick00:37
joheyedenbeast: I just have this six octets. Can I use that to generate a key in a valid format?00:37
basculeAT0M1CB0MB3R: google tomsharware VGA charts00:37
basculeAT0M1CB0MB3R: tomshardware rather sorry00:37
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zhlinwhere do you guys come from00:38
cobello5I just bought a really good ati card and the drivers are not really very good00:38
cobello5shouldve bought nvidia00:38
dvayanuwhat is that seahorse btw? every process seems to open it00:38
basculezhlin: all sorts of places, I'm UK00:38
Agent_bobzhlin where are they going may be a better Q00:38
edenbeastjohey you mean like "6b5e45453"00:38
cobello5anyway - anyone know why guarddog might be stopping my ppp0 ?00:38
zhlinoh, same yes, cobello5, linux ati driver sucks00:38
cobello5the correct protocols are 'open'00:38
cobello5zhlin: i get an intermittent flickering00:39
joheyedenbeast: 00-01-38-a0-ac-9f00:39
cobello5zhlin: but 3d is working just fine - so cant complain really00:39
zhlinthere's a good tutorial telling you how to do this00:39
cobello5how to do what?00:40
edenbeastjohey yes that's your key but it's a small one, you use only 64 bit encryption? :-)00:40
zhlin3d is fine? then what's your problem?00:40
Agent_bob<cobello5> zhlin: i get an intermittent flickering00:40
joheyedenbeast: It's providen by my ISP. :)00:40
cobello5zhlin: not related to video at all00:40
zhlinok, show me the link please00:40
cobello5zhlin: that was just conversation00:40
smaxhi00:40
cobello5i need help with guarddog, please00:41
edenbeastjohey that's sort of weird, maybe that's your nics' mac address? ;-)00:41
zhlinno exp about this00:41
cobello5firestarter hangs when it starts up, so I cant use that00:41
edenbeastjohey but try it, if it doesn't work you'll know00:41
smaxat the kubuntu login screen.  aparently there is an option for konsole log in  via Alt-N.00:41
smaxbut it doesent work00:41
wertyhow to set up dc++ or where can i find a tutorial?00:41
zhlinanybody got exp about fvwm?00:41
smaxisn't that false adversizement?00:41
Dr_willissmax,  you want your money back?00:42
smaxthe button to the left of the login prompt.  there is an option of Konsole login.00:42
Agent_bob(: smax00:42
smaxDr_willis.  im trying to run nvidia-xconfig but cant get to a console with my new card inserted.00:42
smaxwith my new-card inserted i get a black screen when kde is invoked00:43
smaxbut i can see the output of dmesg00:43
WaltzingAlongsmax: nvidia-config  ?00:43
magoois the synoptics working with kubuntu today00:43
Agent_bobsmax have you tried ctrl+alt+f#  # being 1-600:43
WaltzingAlongmagoo: kubuntu has a package manager but yes you could use synaptics00:43
ceehow can i start X programs as another user? in the "old days" i just did export DISPLAY=localhost:1 but that dosent work anymore..00:43
smaxit's ctrl-alt-F2 and that only works when the desktop is loaded00:43
zhlini suppose there's no girls here, right00:43
WaltzingAlonghard to tell00:43
smaxAgent_bob: how can i get to the desktop from a black screen in the first place?00:44
nosrednaekimyup... there is00:44
smaxobviously Alt-N doesent work.00:44
Dr_willis_cee,  check out the 'sux' command - its handy for that exact job.00:44
joheyedenbeast: When running ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1 it should use my new settings, right?00:44
nosrednaekimnot me ;)00:44
tysonswwere can I find the buttons to activate compiz?00:44
smaxwhat else is there to do ?00:44
Dr_willis_!info sux00:44
ubotusux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB00:44
nosrednaekimDr_willis_: that sux.... er rocks!!00:44
stdincee: as your user "xhost +LOCAL:" and as the other user "DISPLAY=:0 xapplication" (if :0 is your display)00:44
Agent_bobsmax which are you trying to get to   a console login   or the kde session ?00:44
Dr_willis_tysonsw,  button? Normally you run 'compiz --replace'00:44
Agent_bobmake up your mind.00:44
smaxAgent_bob: to a konsole session.00:44
tysonswDr_willis_ yes I know.. but how do you  zoom out?00:45
edenbeastjohey eth1 is the name given to an internal network card I don't think that'll be your wireless card, check out its name with iwconfig00:45
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smaxhow do i boot into a console session with out kde invoking ?00:45
WaltzingAlongDr_willis_: unless the icon was installed?00:45
werty!info dc++00:45
ubotuPackage dc++ does not exist in gutsy00:45
joheyedenbeast: eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"B2_private_9F"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311"00:45
Agent_bobsmax add single to the kernel line in grub00:45
Dr_willis_tysonsw,   i always have to use the ccsm tool to check what keybindings do what...00:45
cobello5anyone with experience using guarddog and a dial up interface?00:45
edenbeastjohey great then eth1 is your card :-)00:45
Dr_willis_WaltzingAlong,  ive seen no icon. :)  you could make one easially enough00:45
zhlintry crtl+alt+f1 in your kdm, Agent_bob00:45
smaxgreat now i have to learn grub.00:46
Dr_willis_smax,  alt-ctrl-f1, disable the kdm service00:46
smaxAgent_bob: can you just tell me the path this file resides?00:46
Dr_willis_smax,  depending on what you are needing to do. :)00:46
smaxf1 ehh?00:46
smaxDr_willis_: can this work from the login screen?00:46
Dr_willis_smax,  alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 gets to the consoles.00:46
Agent_bobzhlin i don't use kdm   and i am running dapper.   and yes alt+ctrl+f# works in kdm in dapper.00:46
Dr_willis_smax,  try it and see.00:46
smaxok i'll just go down the list. F1..F600:46
Dr_willis_smax,  it works on  most every disrto/livecd/installers even. :)00:47
tysonswDr_willis_ what is a super button?00:47
smaxwell usually it's F2.00:47
smaxwhich didnt work.00:47
Dr_willis_tysonsw,  thats the Windows Key :)00:47
smaxi'll try the other 500:47
smaxthanx00:47
cobello5how about suggesting other iptables-centric channels? (except #iptables of course)00:47
Dr_willis_smax,  usually? should be one on f1 through F6, F7 gets you back to X.00:47
octo_anyone here know if  mdraid supports independent reads to different disks in the array, so i can have my sata raid 1 be faster than my crappy IDE drive?00:47
magoooh yes that package manager is what i was talking about it had some problems on my machine today00:48
BrightEyes`are there any tools for configuring the grub boot loader?00:48
cobello5BrightEyes`: grub is easy to configure00:48
Dr_willis_Doh! i had my windows key disabled.. :) heh - thats why it wasent working00:48
WaltzingAlongBrightEyes`: check the online manual00:49
Agent_bobcobello5 nano ?00:49
cobello5just look in /boot/grub/menu.lst00:49
edenbeastBrightEyes`: grub00:49
Dr_willis_grub is one of those things thats WELL worth learning  about.00:49
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwell looks like im getting a new nvidia card :]00:49
Dr_willis_the grub homepage has very good docs/guide/manual00:49
whysohi! i just installed gutsy, but aptitude (and apt get) dont list any packages (even firefox :( )00:49
edenbeastBrightEyes`: the load process is defined in menu.lst like cobello5 said00:49
Agent_bobdr_willis worth learning, or not worth using.  i'd say00:49
Agent_bobpick your take.00:50
edenbeastI find the hdx,x notation very annoying :-/00:50
cobello5BrightEyes`: are you having trouble working out how to configure menu.lst00:50
Dr_willis_tysonsw,  The windows key + mouse wheel zoome in/out for me.00:50
AndyMan1is it possible (and easy) to encrypt /home on a separate partition when installing kubuntu gutsy?00:50
Dr_willis_edenbeast,  come up with a better notation then that works in all the os's that grub can use. :)00:50
flicki just installed kde-core on ubuntu, how do i enable compiz on kubuntu?00:51
cobello5nyone with experience using guarddog and a dial up interface?00:51
Dr_willis_!compiz00:51
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion00:51
WaltzingAlongcobello5: ask google about that00:51
flickthanks00:51
Dr_willis_We need to put that in the topic. :)00:51
flickcompiz or not, kde seems much better!00:51
Dr_willis_save ware on the bot.00:51
Agent_bobdr_willis  how about the common linux notation00:51
cobello5WaltzingAlong: been googling for weeks to find the problem00:51
tysonswDr_willis_ what menu in ccsm do I go to to find the command  so I can go from fram to cube?00:51
Dr_willis_Agent_bob,  grub is NOT just for linux.. thats the point.00:52
tysonswDr_willis_ frame*00:52
cobello5WaltzingAlong: im a bit of a linux cripple too, i need help00:52
Dr_willis_Agent_bob,  grub is useavble in   bsd that uses a different notation, its even useable by dos..00:52
Dr_willis_Agent_bob,  grub devs used that notation to be as concise as they can be.00:52
flickDr_willis, thanks, were it not for you i wouldn't have tried KDE :)00:52
AT0M1CB0MB3Ri wish this dock worked for linux http://rocketdock.com/00:52
sub[t]rnlgreets00:53
WaltzingAlongcobello5: may i ask (and be informed) why you would like to run the firewall anyway? http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/00:53
nosrednaekimhey sub[t]rnl00:53
sub[t]rnlyo00:53
Dr_willis_tysonsw,  Hmm..  I never use the cube.  it should be right there on the settings. check cube. enabel 4 desktops on the  general tab also.00:53
* Agent_bob wonders how grub is usable in *os* or by *os* for that matter....00:53
tysonswDr_willis_ what menu in ccsm do I go to to find the command  so I can go from frame to cube?00:53
Dr_willis_tysonsw,  explore cssm - is the best thing to do.00:53
nosrednaekimtysonsw: you have to enable the desktop cube00:53
Agent_bobmethinks he meant cant be used to boot *os*00:54
Dr_willis_the big icon that says 'cube' makes sence to me. :)00:54
sub[t]rnlcall me crazy00:54
sub[t]rnl:P00:54
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flickis ktorrent the choice for torrent client on kde? i've been using deluge on gnome.00:54
NickPrestanalioth: you there?00:54
NickPrestaflick: yep. KTorrent is awesome.00:54
[ifr0g]flick, yes it is.00:55
cobello5WaltzingAlong: arent you best off with a firewall? I use netbanking and other sensitive stuff00:55
cobello5WaltzingAlong: (sorry for the delay - children to look after)00:55
tysonswnosrednaekim hey again.. it is enabled.. it says that I have to press ctrl-alt-down.. but it won't work00:55
edenbeastDr_willis yet it does distinguish between slices and partitions00:55
nosrednaekimtysonsw: ctrl+alt +right and left arrows00:56
AT0M1CB0MB3Ri wish this dock worked for linux http://rocketdock.com/00:56
cobello5i have used guarddog before on a adsl style connection with no trouble, it makes iptables quite easy to configure00:56
WaltzingAlongcobello5: sure it can be a nice layer of protection. just that kubuntu ships with 0 open ports by default. ok so i would suggest pacing yourself through the guide; at one of the screens things seemed a bit backward to me so i was always configured the firewall in the wrong direction00:56
tysonswnosrednaekim to activate??00:56
cobello5i think the problem stems from the kind of internet I have00:56
flickbye bye, deluge!00:56
edenbeastDr_willis the main annoyance with the numbering scheme is having to be very sure which gets counted first and with multiple hds (and with pata, sata and scsi mixed that's a royal pain) it's not always easy. :-)00:56
nosrednaekimtysonsw: just try it00:56
Dr_willis_ya know. the Desktop CUBE stuff.. really looks like Poo..on 2+ monitors. :)00:56
WaltzingAlong!info kooldock | AT0M1CB0MB3R not close enough?00:57
nosrednaekimbye all!00:57
cobello5ok, i will look at the guide00:57
ubotuat0m1cb0mb3r not close enough?: kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB00:57
tysonswnosrednaekim it won't work00:57
Dr_willis_edenbeast,  yep. its a complex task. with no easy answer.. Gotten bitten by the "starts at 0" thing also.00:57
tysonswDr_willis_ it wont work T.T00:57
Agent_bobtysonsw does your ctrl and alt keys work propperly?    i recently found a system that i had to use the "magic sysRQ" combo to get out of normal xorg.   might be worth testing  ctrl+alt+f1 alt+f7  just to make sure.00:57
Dr_willis_tysonsw,   how ... vague. :)00:57
Oakboxis there any reason why i cant select the "raise on click" checkbox in compiz?00:57
cobello5before I do though - let me explain my internet, it is a wireless modem that connects to broadband internet like a cell phone00:57
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: but it acts up on me00:58
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  check that howto - in the troubleshooting part at the end00:58
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  i added that info just today. :)00:58
cobello5but the modem is not automatically recognised by kubuntu and the ppp0 interface never appears in network manager00:58
Dr_willis_!compiz00:58
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion00:58
tysonswAgent_bob yes they work00:58
OakboxDr_willis_00:58
Agent_bobk00:58
Oakboxoops00:58
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  Under Kubuntu, some settings in the Compiz Settings Manager may not be selectable unless you enable the "Flat-File Configuration Backend" Under the CCSM tool -> Preferances -> (Backend drop down menu)00:58
OakboxDr_willis_: ta00:58
cobello5although it does show in ifconfic (of course)00:59
joheyedenbeast and WaltzingAlong: When running sudo iwlist keys, I get one line that says "[1]: 0001-38A0-AC9F-0000-0000-0000-00 (104 bits)". I've tried to use that key (with some variations, like wasting the dashes) as wireless-key, but it won't work. How should I configure it?00:59
Max-PHi, I have a BIG problem with my video driver00:59
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Dr_willis_Oakbox,  guess i should put that info under the 'configure' heading? :)00:59
edenbeastjohey that's a strange key :-/00:59
Max-PCan someone help me?00:59
edenbeastjohey are you able to setup a new key in your router as well?01:00
smaxhi01:00
joheyedenbeast: No, this is hard coded into my modem. It's not even a router.01:00
OakboxDr_willis_: ta muchly you have been a great help :) it would probably be better there yep.01:00
smaxctrl-alt F1 doesent work with the nvidia card inserted.01:00
edenbeastjohey oh I see :-/01:00
smaxcan someone just tell me the line of  grub to provide an option for console login?01:00
=== nickpresta is now known as NickPresta
smaxand the path to the grub config file.01:01
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  but is it a bug.. that might get fixed :) or not.. hard to justify heh..01:01
Max-PDo someone know how to RESET the Video driver? It was working correctly until I tried to plug my TV on my laptop01:01
WaltzingAlongsmax: /boot/grub/menu.lst ?01:01
smaxthnx01:01
flickwhere is the configuration for config? the site says "And for Kubuntu: KMenu > Settings > CompizConfig Settings Manager" but there is no CompizConfig in Settings (i have installed compiz-kde)01:01
OakboxDr_willis_: true01:01
WaltzingAlongsmax: and when starting grub, press esc to get the menu then the onscreen should tell you how to get a prompt (c i think it is)01:01
Dr_willis_flick,  i just run ccsm from a terminal01:01
Dr_willis_flick,  i see an 'advanced dekstop effects settings' thats it. :)01:02
Oakboxflick: its called "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings" on my comp...01:02
Dr_willis_dont ask me WHY theres so many names for it.01:02
Dr_willis_or who even came up with that one. :)01:03
edenbeastanybody know what/where I need to change anything so I can drag my windows from 1 desktop to the other?01:03
cobello5OK it was simple in the end01:03
cobello5dns was blocked by default - weird01:03
LinusxHey guys, I'll admit not fishing for myself... but somebody here ought to know off top of their head.  Will feisty run on an old 350 mhz slot loader iMac? (384 megs RAM)01:03
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WaltzingAlongedenbeast: kmenu/system settings/window behavior/advanced/ active desktop borders01:04
edenbeastthat's a G4 right?01:04
Dr_willis_Linusx,  ive had issues with those.. but it Should work.01:04
Linusxno, its a G301:05
Dr_willis_Linusx,  not tried it in over a year however.01:05
Dr_willis_Linusx,  you may want to use the xubuntu variant.01:05
Linusxwhat issues Doc?01:05
edenbeastWaltzingAlong: yes, that's kind of the thing: I don't have activeborder :-/01:06
Dr_willis_Linusx,  console was shifted over about 4 characters.. never did find a fix for that.01:06
Dr_willis_And for Kubuntu: KMenu > Settings > CompizConfig Settings Manager or KMenu > Settings > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings01:06
Dr_willis_There we go.. BOTH entrys are in the wiki page now01:06
WaltzingAlongedenbeast: but you can enable it there. i have it enabled only when i am moving the windows01:06
edenbeastWaltzingAlong: or you mean that "only when moving setting" ? :-)01:06
flickDr_willis, Oakbox where is advanced desktop effect settings in the K-Menu?01:06
edenbeastk great thx01:06
Dr_willis_flick,  at the top of the settings menu01:07
Dr_willis_flick,  if you just isntalled the packages - the menus may not be updated yet01:07
Dr_willis_flick,  use alt-f2 and run ccsm :)01:07
WaltzingAlongedenbeast: welcome01:07
flickDr_willis, i see, thanks i ran ccsm from Konsole :)01:07
Dr_willis_and yes.. ccsm is one of the WORSE names i can think of for a new tool to use...01:08
edenbeastit has one of the worst UIs ever too01:08
Dr_willis_guess they dident want 'compiz-config' or compiz-setting-manager01:08
WaltzingAlongflick: kbuildsycoca to build the menus now01:08
Dr_willis_edenbeast,  yep.. its a complex interface..01:08
flickone more thing, in ubuntu (gnome) the xchat window would hilight if someone msged me... but that's not happening in kubuntu - how can i turn it on?01:08
edenbeastjust plain ugly :P01:08
fignew_Linusx: I run Debian with KDE on my 233mhz iMac01:08
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: whats your channel again01:08
Dr_willis_ive seen MUCH worse :)01:08
edenbeastit's something you'd think RMS designed ;-)01:09
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: pm me it01:09
Dr_willis_They could be using some sort of Tree view with +'s all over01:09
[ifr0g]lol01:09
LinusxBTW, Where can the system info be found?  (similar to Apple System Profiler)01:09
basculeedenbeast: I think it's OK01:09
Dr_willis_flick,  it does it here for me under kde/xchat01:09
WaltzingAlongLinusx: i have kubuntu 7.04 on an amd k6-3 400mhz w/ about 192mb ram01:09
Oakboxwhen using compiz can i still use things like kde appearance system settings or does it all have to be done through emerald or somthing similar?01:09
basculeWaltzingAlong: are you serious?01:09
WaltzingAlongbascule: sure01:10
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  it depends.. :)01:10
fignew_Linusx: depends on what type of system info you want01:10
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  you are using Emerald themes - not kde themes for the window borders01:10
basculeWaltzingAlong: 192mb, thats gotta be nasty01:10
WaltzingAlongbascule: works rather well actually. of course i turned off the sound noticifications and gui effects01:10
OakboxDr_willis_: yes im am01:10
BluesKajwith fluxbox such a setup would prolly run even faster WaltzingAlong01:10
basculeyeah, but this thing uses >200 on a clean boot with nothing going01:10
WaltzingAlongbascule: though the computer i am on now has more than that. 16mb video card so it works fine enough01:10
WaltzingAlongBluesKaj: sure and it does01:11
Linusxfignew: Looking for RAM, general MISC info like hard drive space use etc.01:11
flickDr_willis, are you using xchat or a special version for kde?01:11
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  thats part of the 'rough spots' of the whole compiz+kde   integeration.01:11
Dr_willis_flick,  nope Just apt-get install xchat01:11
BluesKajI ran dapper on 233 mhz MMX for a while , worked ok01:11
Dr_willis_flick,  check your xchat settings perhaps.01:11
BluesKaj128 Ram01:11
Dr_willis_I ran dapper on a Pent 1 100,  64mb laptop! :)01:11
basculeyikes01:12
BluesKajhehe01:12
Dr_willis_took like 3 hrs to install... 1x cdrom01:12
OakboxDr_willis_: sorry im sure you get board of the constant questions :) hopefully one day i will be able to help answer some questions as well.  I find that some of the KDE stuff crashes if i use it...01:12
LinusxBluesKaj:  I'd like to confirm somebody ran it on an old AIO iMac if possible before giving it a shot.  Thanks01:12
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  compiz is very much a work in progess.. thats why kubuntu dident install it by default.01:12
Dr_willis_Oakbox,  you gotta decide.. eye candy..or stability.. :)01:12
WaltzingAlongwith several computers on a lan behind a router/gateway i quickly realized the benefit of apt-cacher and the like01:13
OakboxDr_willis_: totaly understand. :)01:13
Dr_willis_WaltzingAlong,  thats still on my todo list! :)01:13
Max-PCan someone help me with my VIDEO problem??? Need to reset video to defaults01:13
cobello5can i copy a module from one computer to another, or does it need to be compiled in?01:13
flickDr_willis, i'm using xchat... and just checked the settings, it is alright as far as i can tell - has blink traybar icon on message01:13
basculesame kernel same compiler you will be ok cobello501:13
basculeother wise rebuild time01:13
cobello5bascule: if kernel version is different?01:14
basculerebuild01:14
WaltzingAlongDr_willis_: :D and i send apt-cacher through squid anyway! though i look forward to apt-torrent or whatever it will be called if such a thing materializes for 8.0401:14
cobello5doh01:14
edenbeastcobello if it's a minor version then it should probably work01:14
basculeedenbeast: it can be forced but it will compplain01:14
cobello5i have kubuntu here and sees my zydas chipset usb wireless adapter, ubuntu in other room doesnt run the same adapter01:14
fignew_Linusx: theres various utilities that you can run from the command line... "free" for memory usage "df -h" for HD usage... etc... there's also graphical apps.01:15
cobello5i installed an older kernel on my kubuntu tho01:15
seriekrockis it possible to find drivers for a lexmark x8350?01:16
cobello5how do i add the module to the other computer if it doesnt have internet?01:16
Dr_willis_seriekrock,  check the cups.org site to see how supported that printer is.01:16
cobello5the modules are kernel specific I guess?01:16
Linusxfignew:  Not familiar with command line yet.  (Still a noob) Would be great to either get used to commandline or find a gui app.01:17
tekstacyadept only opens in read-only mode, says another process is using the database. But I can't find that process. Any ideas?01:17
Dr_willis_!aptfix01:18
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:18
tekstacyDr_willis_, Thanks!01:18
WaltzingAlongcobello5: usb stick? network? cdrw? floppy? hd transfer?01:19
SeanTaterI have one package I don't want upgraded (ffmpeg), will that affect whether or not adept will upgrade my distro?01:19
cobello5WaltzingAlong: lol - I get that bit but what do I take over there, a deb file from somewhere?01:20
cobello5does it have to be for the exact kernel version01:20
WaltzingAlongcobello5: what would you be installing? nvidia or such?01:20
cobello5no, the module for the zydas wireless device I use here01:21
edenbeastSeanTater: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html (section 3.10)01:21
cobello5do I just look for a tarball of the device module?01:21
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow do i install kxdocker01:21
Dr_willis_!info kxdocker01:21
ubotuPackage kxdocker does not exist in gutsy01:21
cobello5actually that wouldnt work01:22
tomer_panyone recommend a good01:22
cobello5it would have to be a deb01:22
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  use the soruce if its not in the repos. or see if their homepage has a deb for gutsy01:22
tomer_pwysywig html editor for kubinutu01:22
cobello5since the comp doesnt have devs files01:22
Dr_willis_!find docker01:22
ubotuFound: docker, kdocker01:22
flickhi, when i restarted the comp, i see a black window called 'Adept Notifier' what is that?01:22
basculetomer_p: quanta -> kdewebdev01:22
Max-PHowcan I reset the video settings to defaults01:22
Dr_willis_Max-P,  you mean your X display settings?01:22
Max-PMaybe01:23
Dr_willis_!fixres01:23
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:23
Max-PI will try01:24
edenbeastam I the only one that needs to restart kd when adding a panel or adding buttons to a panel and such?01:24
tomer_pok i installed kdewebdev01:26
tomer_phow to run it?01:26
tomer_pkdewebdev on command line doesnt work01:26
SeanTateredenbeast: Thank you, and I might use that, but that's not precisely the issue. Adept is not giving me any dialog telling me I can upgrade after I press "Fetch Updates".01:27
edenbeastSeanTater: oh :-/  try the cli? "sudo apt-get upgrade"01:28
Chousukesudo aptitude dist-upgrade01:28
flickis there a task manager?01:28
joejoe1234Installed kubuntu (gutsy) but the default file manager changed to dolphin. I like very much kfmclient (konqueror) but cannot figure out where to change the default back to kfmclient. Some hints?01:28
WaltzingAlongctrl+esc flick or ksysguard01:29
WaltzingAlongjoejoe1234: sure thing!01:29
bobesponjahi01:29
flickWaltzingAlong, thanks!01:29
WaltzingAlongjoejoe1234: same here but for konqueror in place of dolphin http://sathyasays.com/?p=2301:29
SeanTateredenbeast: Okay --  I don't I just figured adept would change the repos and stuff for me, especially seeing that I did not find any upgrade notes anywhere else. So I just need to change every instance of "feisty" to "gutsy" right?01:29
bobesponjaI'm trying to use my SIP phone but I get a message saying that port 5060 is already in use, is there a way to free that port or to know what application is using it?01:29
edenbeastSeanTater: yes that would work :-)01:29
SeanTateredenbeast: thanks01:29
tomer_pbascule: apt-get install kdewebdev gave me nothing i can run01:30
tomer_ponly some gz files that do not open01:31
WaltzingAlongbobesponja: yes but i cannot recall it just now. man netstat may tell you01:31
tomer_pcan the Konversation window be made to beep when a message inteded to you comes in?01:31
joejoe1234WaltzingAlong: Ok. Tks. One last question... there is some way for dolphin to work with tabs (each one at a different folder)?01:31
basculetomer_p: just quanta01:32
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NickPresta!compiz01:32
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion01:32
dvayanuhow can i find out why ssh (client) hangs01:32
WaltzingAlongjoejoe1234: as far as i know no01:32
tomer_pok found the beep thing never mind01:32
joejoe1234WaltzingAlong: tks very much!01:33
tomer_ptomer_p: test01:33
edenbeastdvayanu: add -vvv  :-)01:33
bobesponjaWaltzingAlong: netstat -anp |grep 506001:33
tomer_ptomer_p: test01:33
flickeven though i see 4 desktops, i can only switch to 2 of them, and all 4 show the tooltip 'Desktop 1'01:33
dvayanudebug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received01:34
dvayanuis last01:34
edenbeastflick are you running compiz?01:34
flickedenbeast, yeah01:34
edenbeastflick compiz doesn't use more than 1 desktop but it uses virtual workspaces, adjust vertical workspaces or something :-)01:35
flickalso compiz switcher shows a lot many blank window icons01:35
edenbeastflick vertical or horizontal but I thought it was vertical (look for it in the ccsm application)01:35
flickok01:35
edenbeastflick and set your desktops bck to 101:36
robert__hello?01:37
dvayanuedenbeast: interesting, if i login from another computer to mine, from this shell i can ssh whereever i want to01:37
basculeis there away of *permanently* disabling that awful bell sound in konsole ...01:37
tekteenyes01:37
joheyedenbeast: Now I think I have managed to set the key. However, when running iwconfig, I get "Access Point: Invalid". Do you know how to solve this?01:37
edenbeastsettings/configure notifications01:37
tekteensettings > bell > none01:38
basculeah there01:38
tekteensettings > save as default01:38
basculetekteen: no, open a new tab, right back annoying the life out of me ...01:38
tekteensave as default01:38
basculetekteen: had to restart it01:38
tekteenok01:38
basculethat was why01:38
bascule:))01:38
basculebetter now01:39
tekteenok01:39
tekteencool01:39
robert__I have a keyboard mapping question too.01:39
edenbeastjohey if you copied my lines ad verbatim then you will see the ap line at the bottom, that specifies an accesspoint, obviously you don't have my accesspoint here :-) so omit that line01:39
joheyedenbeast: A-ha! AP is access point. Smart. :=)01:40
edenbeastjohey: wireless_ap 00:0F:3D:86:E2:4C  <-- make sure it's not there or that your own ap's mac is filled in01:40
edenbeastjohey so just erase that line or comment it out by preceding it with a #01:40
UnluckyMikedoes kubuntu treat /etc/network/interfaces the same as ubuntu does?01:42
joheyedenbeast: Actually, I did not put in that line, so it was omited. However, I do have the mac address of my access point. When putting it in, it still says invalid.01:42
edenbeastjohey: then I don't immediately know either, sorry :-/01:42
joheyedenbeast: Okay. Might be a driver problem then. :/ Thanks alot for your support, anyway!01:43
edenbeastjohey is the essid set correctly?01:43
flicktitlebars for all the windows have disappeared01:44
flickprobably as a result of my initiating scale (compiz, default shortcut is Ctrl+Alt+Up i think)01:44
flickhow do i disable compiz?01:45
joheyedenbeast: Yes, it looks like that.01:45
seriekrockflick, you have to install emerald01:45
flicki have emerald already installed01:46
dvayanuedenbeast: manually removing the ssh-seahorse directory from tmp solved the issue01:46
dvayanussh-ZYCNm11189/01:46
seriekrockflick:  what do you have installed?01:46
edenbeastflick kwin --replace && killall kicker && pause 5 & kicker &   should do the trick I believe01:48
wikipediahi01:48
Agent_bobhmmm mouse problem.  no worky with 2.4 kernel.   should work though, it's standard ps/2 two button.01:48
tomer_pyo the upgrade wizard isnt coming up on adept01:48
wikipediappl01:48
flicki followed the link for installing compiz on kubuntu in the ubuntu site, i have all the packages that it asked me to install01:48
seriekrockyo01:48
wikipediahehehe01:48
wikipediai use ubuntu01:49
tomer_pnever mind found it01:49
Agent_bobwikipedia you use ubuntu ?01:49
flickedenbeast, thanks...01:49
edenbeastflick if you can't summon up a consle, drop to a tty and precede it with DISPLAY=":0.0"01:50
flickedenbeast, i did it on Alt+F201:50
tomer_pok its updating to 7.1001:51
joheyedenbeast: Finally! :D Strange thing this one. iwlist scan helped me to find out that the mac address I got from my ISP is wrong. With the mac address output of iwlist, it works! :D01:51
edenbeastflick ok great, does it work? :-)01:51
tomer_pthisd better work smoothly or im switching back to windoz xp01:51
edenbeastjohey great :D01:51
flickyeah works great! now the xchat blinks the taskbar too01:51
Agent_bobtomer_p sorry to hear that.01:51
edenbeastjohey mac addresses can be changed01:51
flickpity though, i wanted to use compiz... guess i have to do without the eye-candy01:51
tomer_pjust kidding01:52
tomer_pso will 7.10 give me a 3d desktop01:52
tomer_pwith those nice kubes?01:52
joheyedenbeast: That might be what has happened.01:52
wikipediai've realized that actually i'm good with people01:52
wikipediapeople are attracted to me01:52
wikipediai've realized that i'm actually good with people.01:52
wikipediathat's good01:53
edenbeast^^ ice-cream cone maybe? ;-)01:53
Agent_bob:)01:53
flickthe problems i am facing with compiz could be because i used gnome before switching to kde01:53
seriekrockwikipedia: uuh?01:54
wikipedia?01:54
edenbeastflick did you get compiz-kde?01:54
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow come my computer is running so slow01:54
flickedenbeast, yeah01:54
tomer_pok all im starting the upgrade to 7.10 so i have to go now. i know you will miss me but i hope ill be back soon after the upgrade is done01:54
AT0M1CB0MB3Rlinux is supposed to be fast right?01:54
edenbeastflick do sudo apt-get --purge remove compiz* and then apt-get install it again maybe?01:54
wikipediapeople should be saved from the misery of the burden of life created by few in power01:55
wikipediaus, common people, are changed through time from good to bad, because of pressures of life01:55
wikipediawe are forced to use fake common sense and follow fake customs01:55
seriekrockAT0M1CB0MB3R: bad computer? :-P01:55
edenbeastAT0M1CB0MB3R: it sure is, it's a version 2.6 already, while windows has only just gained XP by discovering new vistas ;-)01:55
Agent_bobwe are off topic too01:55
flickedenbeast, will try that01:55
edenbeastI wonder if that wikipedia responds to !commands01:56
AT0M1CB0MB3Rseriekrock: not bad computer01:56
wikipediaoften i sense people are decent, yet they are prohibited from being good01:56
Agent_boblol edenbeast01:56
AT0M1CB0MB3Redenbeast: i meant my computer is running slow and i have no idea why01:56
seriekrockAT0M1CB0MB3R: reinstall?01:56
edenbeastAT0M1CB0MB3R: it could be that that throttle program is on, the one that throttles back your computer to make your fan go more silent01:57
wikipediaprohibited by those few in power01:57
edenbeastforgot the name :-/01:57
edenbeastah01:57
edenbeastpowernowd01:57
Agent_bobwikipedia enough.   they wont let me preach in here so you don't get too either.01:57
edenbeastAT0M1CB0MB3R: do sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop and see if that helps :-)01:57
wikipediabecause from them emanates rules of life that really should not be followed01:58
flickremoved and purged compiz, compiz-kde, then added compiz-kde back, finally ran compiz --replace01:58
flickno problems so far!01:58
edenbeastflick don't forget emerald01:58
wikipediainnoncence of babes are lost forever and real common sense is lost.01:58
flickedenbeast, didn't purge it01:58
AT0M1CB0MB3Redenbeast: what is powernowd01:58
Agent_bob!offtopic > wikipedia01:58
Agent_bob!offtopic > wikipedia01:58
Agent_bob!offtopic > wikipedia01:58
Agent_bob!offtopic > wikipedia01:58
wikipediai will help others in need and break the chain of command.01:59
edenbeastAT0M1CB0MB3R: it's something that throttles back your CPU so it produces less heat == less fan action needed, thus less sound, ubuntu has it on by default I believe01:59
wikipediai will bring back decency back into the world. amen.01:59
AT0M1CB0MB3R!offtopic | wikipedia01:59
ubotuwikipedia: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:59
DaSkreechAgent_bob: Don't spam him01:59
edenbeastI'm pretty sure wikipedia is a bot01:59
DaSkreechedenbeast: Sadly no02:00
AT0M1CB0MB3Redenbeast: so why disable it it sounds good02:00
Agent_bobDaSkreech don't spam him ?  heh.02:00
DaSkreechAgent_bob: try !ops02:00
wikipediabecause from them emanates rules of life that really should not be followed02:00
Agent_bobDaSkreech you try it.02:00
DaSkreech!ops02:00
edenbeastoh so he'll actually notice when you do a /msg spam bomb? :P02:00
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!02:00
wikipediaedenbeast, i am human while you are not.02:01
edenbeastit is true, I cometh from the 6th circle. :P02:02
stdinDaSkreech: what's going on?02:02
DaSkreechA misunderstanding02:02
CPrgmSwR2Is there a way to get rid of the pckage manager constantly asking me to upgrade to gutsy?02:02
DaSkreechwikipedia was spamming gospel into the channel02:03
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: Not currentyl02:03
stdinmmk02:03
johey_In Gutsy, kopete chrashes when I'm connecting to MSN. Is that a known one, or is it just me?02:03
CPrgmSwR2DaSkreech: is this a bug?02:03
DaSkreechstdin: I was showing someone how to call for ops and ljl thought I was tricking them and removed me02:03
edenbeast1 app I like a lot better than the kde version is the terminal services client that the regular ubuntu has, it's way better in terms of options02:03
DaSkreech the offender has been warned and removed so it's good now02:03
edenbeastunless I missed it I don't think the kde version allows you to latch on to the console for instance :-/02:04
stdinDaSkreech: the person you were showing already knows about it (he's intelikeys alter-ego)02:04
flickedenbeast, thanks02:05
AT0M1CB0MB3Redenbeast: thanks my computer is running way better02:05
NickPresta!find pidgin > NickPresta02:05
wikipediai want to help my family02:05
DaSkreechstdin: Well he was spamming02:05
stdinjohey_: 32 or 64bit ?02:05
LjLDaSkreech: sorry, i've been too impulsive. !ops abuse gets on my nerves - i apologize02:05
johey_stdin: 64.02:05
edenbeastAT0M1CB0MB3R: well it basically cuts your processing power in half :-)02:05
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AT0M1CB0MB3Redenbeast: i dont care about that02:06
DaSkreechLjL: I understand I can imagine being on the other end02:06
stdin_i want to help my family02:06
stdinDaSkreech: I suspect it was probably a bug in his client (has happened before)02:06
AT0M1CB0MB3Rstdin_: who cares?02:06
stdinjohey_: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb < install that to fix02:06
flickkonqueror or firefox?02:07
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: all he has to do is reset his modem02:07
LjLAT0M1CB0MB3R: any better suggestion?02:07
DaSkreechstdin: That prays for our salvation? :)02:07
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: as long as hes gone :]02:07
stdinAT0M1CB0MB3R: to answer your question, me, so there02:07
edenbeastsomebody really needs to invent punchOverIP02:08
stdinAT0M1CB0MB3R: forgot the ':p' at the end02:08
edenbeastit would make a game like counterstrike more interesting too ;-)02:08
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL i wish you could ban his mac address or hardware02:08
LjLAT0M1CB0MB3R: unfortunately that's not possible02:08
NickPrestathis reminds me of the bash.org quote about stabbing people through IRC. lol02:09
AT0M1CB0MB3Ryeah02:09
johey_stdin: Very nice. It works. Thanks! :)02:09
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwhat about his eprom LjL02:09
LjL:)02:10
NickPrestaIs there any application which will remove menu entries for applications which are no longer installed?02:11
mike-kubuntuhey, all my sdl games the keyboard and mouse import is messed up02:12
mike-kubuntuthe mouse is stuck as moving down, the keboard is stuck on pressing right02:12
Oakboxim having a bit of trouble getting amarok to use my Audigy sound card as a default, can anyone point me in the right direction?02:13
DaSkreechOakbox: Do you need the onboard sound?02:13
OakboxDaSkreech: not realy no02:14
gameforgeI did the impossible: I got compiz and emerald to work on Kubuntu Gutsy with an ATI radeon.02:14
gameforgeFinally...02:14
DaSkreechOakbox: disable it in BIOS02:14
NickPrestagameforge: congrats :)02:14
OakboxDaSkreech: ;) that would work thanks :) hehe02:14
gameforgethx :)02:14
mike-kubuntuOakbox: lots of times you need to disable the onboard for windows as well02:14
[Relic]any idea why firestarter just crashes?   I look and it is gone again  :(02:16
xipietotecanyone notice that the kde4 packages in us.archive are broken?02:17
NickPrestaxipietotec: nope. What's broken about them?02:18
[Relic]more important question, why isn't firefox seeing java is installed02:18
xipietotecNickPresta, kde4addons contains a file which is also in kde4base, and kde4addons depends on kde4base, so they error out and wont install02:19
flickis xchat the preferred irc client for KDE, or is there a kchat?02:19
NickPrestaflick: Konversation, I believe02:19
NickPrestaand [Relic] have you restarted Firefox since you installed Java?02:19
edenbeastyes Koonversation, it's under the internet menu02:19
DaSkreech!irc02:19
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines02:19
stdinflick: konversation is the default in kubuntu (pre-installed)02:20
[Relic]NickPresta, yep I will try uninstalling and reinstalling to check it02:20
gameforgeSo how do I solve the taskbar issue with compiz on KDE?  I.e. instead of all progs showing up on all desktops, only have the ones on the current desktop?02:20
NickPrestagameforge: right click on your taskbar > configure > Taskbar: do you have "Show windows from all screens" ticked off?02:21
crazy_busin all the past releases of kubuntu when I opened something in firefox from akregator it would just open.  But not in gutsy I have to click twice on akregator after each page to put the focus back on it.  Why is this?02:22
gameforgeHold on, I'll check02:22
gameforgeIt's unchecked02:23
NickPrestagameforge: try checking it.02:23
gameforgeOK, I tried checking it, hit apply and closed, spun the cube... still get all programs on all desktops02:23
NickPrestagameforge: hmm. no idea then. Perhaps someone else will have an answer for you shortly02:24
stdingameforge: it's a compiz bug, well known and old02:24
edenbeastwell there's noly 1 'desktop' as far as compiz is concerned :-/02:24
gameforgeYeah I remember having the issue with beryl ages ago - seems to me there was a KDE taskbar alternative somewhere, but I can't find it now02:25
OakboxDr_willis_: hi, erm i just reboted and it loaded up compiz automaticaly :S02:25
NickPrestagameforge: well, I've been using Beryl for a while now and it's never gave me any problems. CF on the other hand, didn't handle my twinview setup properly. I don't know what to say...02:25
BigDaddywell, I have spent several hours in Gutsy. So far all the crash problems I had are gone.02:26
BigDaddyEven got my /home moved to a seperate partition02:27
flickkicker taskbar buttons no longer flash on highlight after i installed compiz02:28
NickPrestaflick: yeah, that happened to me too. I don't know of a fix.02:28
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DaSkreechBigDaddy: \o/02:30
sparrthe new kernel seems very gaming-friendly02:30
BluesKajBigDaddy, very cool :)02:30
[Relic]this is weird, I installed the java runtime, but it keeps saying I need to install java, does that mean I just need to mozilla plugin?  or is there something else I am missing?02:31
BluesKajI never bothered with a seperate partition for /home ...I guess I should but i din't have much luck saving my settings the last time i tried it02:31
jpwhitinghi all, anyone here got nvidia drivers to load after getting unknown symbol messages when trying?02:32
Oakboxjpwhiting: sorry nv installed fine for me02:32
jpwhitingOakbox: nv works for me too, but I'd like to use nvidia, as it usually has better performance for me02:33
stdin[Relic]: have you installed sun-java6-plugin ?02:33
NickPrestajpwhiting: I use nvidia and it worked flawlessly after installing from restricted-manager02:33
jpwhitingI get messages like unknown symbol fb_dcc_read, etc.02:34
jpwhitingok, I'll try from there02:34
wertyhi02:34
NickPrestajpwhiting: uninstall any nvidia driver you have, then use the restricted-manager. give that a shot02:34
Oakboxjpwhiting: oops i did mean nvidia didnt know there was an nv as well... (shows my age in linux i suppose)02:34
NickPrestahi, werty02:34
jpwhiting:)02:34
jpwhitingk, cool, I'll try that next02:34
BluesKajinstalling java-common as well, solves quite a few probs02:35
wertywhat is better and why guarddog or firestarter?02:35
Oakboxdoes anyone have the little update icon floating in a window that you cant close and not in the taskbar?02:36
nosrednaekimOakbox: in XGL/compiz? yeah02:36
Oakboxnosrednaekim: im using compiz yeah02:36
DaSkreechwerty:02:37
nosrednaekimOakbox: yeah... it sometimes happens... i'm not quite sure why02:37
DaSkreechthe one you like better02:37
wertyi mean firestarter controls the protocols and the other one the ports....02:38
wertyi think...02:38
Oakboxnosrednaekim: ok, :) as long as its not me...  while i have your attention though :P i was told when installing compiz and running compiz --replace it would only run compiz untill i reboot...  well i did that and compiz is still running :S02:38
NickPrestaOakbox: it's probably because you have logged in and your session was restored...02:39
DaSkreechOakbox: KDE?02:39
nosrednaekimNickPresta: +102:39
OakboxDaSkreech: yep02:39
DaSkreechOakbox: It remembers what programs you had running and restores them when you login02:39
DaSkreechMuch easier than Gnome02:39
OakboxNickPresta: ok how do i do it without it reloading it :)02:40
[Relic]yay!  firestarter gave me an error, not sure what it means yet, but at least I have something to work with02:40
DaSkreechOakbox: If you want it to stop just load back up kwin and then logout02:40
NickPrestaOakbox: at the login screen, click on the menu icon and select "KDE" instead of "Default (previous)"02:40
OakboxDaSkreech: i did look at gnome but i have only just learnt what all the apps are in KDE :) hehe02:40
wertyhow does firestarter determines which ports to allow?02:41
DaSkreechWell if you were worried that compiz had become selfaware and was watching you to plt your wobble of death.. rest at ease02:41
DaSkreech KDE is just owrking to make your life easier02:41
DaSkreechWorking02:41
edenbeastanyone else having a problem with videos when using xv as the output driver? after a few videos the image turns a greensih distortion and it won't go away regard less of the player used.02:41
OakboxTa muchly. hehe02:41
[Relic]ok to post an error line?02:41
nosrednaekimedenbeast: are you running XGL?02:42
vbgunzsomeone please help. I've spent the last couple hours rebooting trying to automount get my external devices to automount while at the same, only allowing me and root read/write access to them. every other account should be read only!02:42
edenbeastno02:42
[ifr0g].02:42
BigDaddyBluesKaj: so far, I have just had a minor hiccup. Like Konversation not notifying me when says my name02:42
vbgunzhours on this with no results... I tried so many options in fstab it isn't funny. I cannot get what I need to work, can anyone help?02:42
basculevbgunz: set the entry to user in fstab instead of users02:42
flickguess i will stop using compiz, NickPresta02:42
edenbeastat least I don't think so, kubuntu still uses xorg right? :-/02:42
edenbeastvbgunz did you try uid options?02:43
vbgunzbascule: no joke, I tried so many different things. I set uid and gid to 1000 and that always results in permission denied02:43
nosrednaekimedenbeast: unless you are running compiz with an ATI card.02:43
vbgunzI set it to my name too and that doesn't work02:43
BluesKajBigDaddy, theres a setting in konversation that will flash red if your name is typed in the chat02:43
[ifr0g]vbgunz, what fs is it ?02:43
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: settings->notifications02:43
BluesKajnot the setting but the konv tab02:44
basculevbgunz: if you want that level of control from hald/hot-plug mount, I have no idea, static discs I can do no problem02:44
edenbeastvbgunz add02:44
edenbeast"<append key="volume.mount.valid_options"02:44
edenbeasttype="strlist">uid=</append>"02:44
vbgunzthey're all vfat but in fstab I have them as auto because they're sticks, usb cards, etc. the fs I would predict could change02:44
edenbeastto that file I talked you about earlier and then try with the uid options in /etc/fstab02:44
basculeedenbeast: nice02:44
vbgunzedenbeast: not sure what you mean, that doesn't go into fstab :/02:45
edenbeastnot that goes in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi02:46
edenbeastin the vfat section02:46
basculevbgunz: considered the mount dir as 755?02:46
vbgunzyou told me about a file before but I forgot. I found trying to mess with fstab easier but really it proved to be a pain in the ass... I always ended up with permission denied or I couldn't mount/unmount... very frustrating :(02:46
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: what it do?02:46
edenbeastbut I must say if you make correct fstab setings, pmount should check there first02:46
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: what does what do?02:46
basculevbgunz: how many other users are actually on this system?02:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: thats like saying whats up02:47
edenbeastcan't you just precreate mount directories with the correct permissions and have it mount there?02:47
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: ah :) not much.02:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim:  lol02:47
BigDaddynos02:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: not familour wiff black slang?02:47
[Relic]stdin, Thanks, working now  :)02:47
BigDaddynosrednaekim: found it. Don't know why that setting didn't transfer over02:47
nosrednaekimAT0M1CB0MB3R: nope. sorry, i'm not gangsta02:48
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: not familiar wiff black slang?02:48
stdin[Relic]: no problem :)02:48
edenbeastif all else fails you can add "<append key="volume.mount.valid_options" type="strlist">ro</append>"  that mounts it read only by default02:48
BigDaddyBluesKaj: I got it.02:48
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnosrednaekim: im Gster02:48
vbgunzmy account and my sons account. I would like read/write access to everything but restrict him to write access to his home dir. I do not want him, writing, deleting, modifying files on external devices in any way :/02:48
BigDaddyAlso wanted to let you guys know that the /home moving was a lot easier than I had feared02:48
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, hi02:48
BluesKajcool BigDaddy :)02:48
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: i thought you went to sleep02:48
vbgunzedenbeast: is there no way to handle the external device permissions from fstab alone?02:48
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: thats good! I think they should make it that way by default02:48
[ifr0g]AT0M1CB0MB3R, Could not get any..:(02:48
[Relic]now if I can figure out why firestarter is crashing I will be happy  :)02:49
BigDaddynosrednaekim: you are right. That should be linux 10102:49
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ifr0g]: dang02:49
BigDaddythe only hard part is dropping into a CLI after installation and changing the mount point.02:49
BigDaddyAs long as you print out the instructions though, piece of cake02:50
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: its far easier when you do it upon install02:51
BigDaddyI never had the option during install. Maybe if I used the alternative installation disc?02:51
vbgunzedenbeast: I am really concerned with messing with that file. I trust you but I don't trust myself. I cannot believe this is harder than I could have imagined it :(02:51
Kr4t05I have a rather complicated problem... Bare with me as I tell my sad tail:02:52
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: no... you did, you just have to do manual partitioning02:52
nosrednaekimKr4t05: its "tale" but go ahead ;)02:52
BigDaddynosrednaekim: ah... that explains it. I had that HD disconected during install02:52
BigDaddynosrednaekim: that HD also has my emergency XP installation on it. If it is hooked up during install, Kubuntu makes a bootloader02:53
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: ah...02:53
nosrednaekimI think you can tell it whcih HD to install grub on now..02:53
edenbeastvbgunz I think I found what you need :-) you'll need to read a bit but in the middle they already talk about group= optionshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16822102:54
Kr4t05It started when I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy last night. Initially the upgrade went fine. Then, for reason even I'm not entirely sure of, I deleted ~/.kde. I expected that KDE would fall back to the default settings and rebuild things, but something went wrong. Now, I can't log back into my default user account, as it hangs at "Initializing system services". I'm currently using a secondary user account. Any help?02:54
Kr4t05I've already performed a fresh install via the Gutsy CD.02:54
BigDaddynosrednaekim: I think once I get my Zen player working 100%, my cell phone working 100%, then I will dump the windows partition completely02:55
AT0M1CB0MB3RBigDaddy: what do you do with your cell02:55
AT0M1CB0MB3RBigDaddy: i mod phones i use linux on my phone and ipod02:56
Kr4t05Does anyone have any leads on this issue?02:56
seriekrockhey you can use both ipods and cellphones in linux02:56
Kr4t05I've already tried copying the .kde file from this user account to my old user account.02:56
Dr_willis_Kr4t05,  thats odd..02:56
killer_I have a few pdf files that I would like to put all into one pdf.. any hints?02:56
nosrednaekimKr4t05: weird.02:56
Kr4t05Well, sure... That's why it has me rather irritated at the moment. :/02:57
Gun_SmokeYou know for all the install problems I've been reading about I haven't ran into a single issuse yet.. /me knocks on wood02:57
nosrednaekimGun_Smoke: lucky ;)02:57
BigDaddyAT0M1CB0MB3R: just moving themes, sound files and so on02:57
Dr_willis_make a new usser. copy all ya data files over to his dir if his kde works. :) then chown the data files.02:57
killer_is there a tool.. something like "mergepdf"02:57
[ka]killeri have a question02:57
Kr4t05Dr_willis_: Yeah, I guess that would work.02:57
nosrednaekim!pdf02:57
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)02:57
BigDaddyit's a Sony Ericsson 300i02:58
AT0M1CB0MB3RBigDaddy: what phone do you have? v3 razr02:58
BigDaddyor maybe W300i02:58
[ka]killerif i remove, and reinstall all teh files that have to do with xine, should that fix the problems im having with it? do you think the problem is with the packages themselves and not just my install02:58
Dr_willis_Kr4t05,  thebn delete the old user. :) and remake him. But i wonder if its not some permission issue going on.02:58
Dr_willis_Kr4t05,  may want to kill X. and start up kde/X with 'startx' to see if any error messages show up as a hint.02:58
atlfalcons866is kde4 going to be in the resportorys?02:58
basculeKr4t05: rm -f ~/.DCOP*02:58
atlfalcons866when its released02:58
bwaynekiller_: try cat'ing the files into one outfile.02:58
nosrednaekimatlfalcons866: its already in them02:58
[ka]killerbwayne: how so?02:59
atlfalcons866thats beta02:59
Dr_willis_atlfalcons866,  so ? :)02:59
bwaynekiller_: cat file1 file2 file3 > outfile02:59
Kr4t05bascule: I'll try that.02:59
Kr4t05Here's hoping, guys.02:59
atlfalcons866will 512mb ram run kde402:59
[ka]killerum... how would that help?02:59
edenbeast640K should be enough for everybody ;-)02:59
BigDaddyAnyone here have a Creative Zen Vision player?03:00
Dr_willis_edenbeast,  its 10x more then my C64 needed03:00
XeraAnyone got a SpeedTouch 330 working in 7.10?03:00
atlfalcons8662GB is the minium in vista in my experience03:00
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: no...but they are quite well supported03:00
edenbeasthell yeah, now that was a machine :D03:00
killer_bwayne: hmm.. worth a try.. don't think that will comform to PDF specifications tho03:00
XeraI get an error about /proc/bus/usb/devices not existing03:00
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: amarok should handle it fine03:00
bwaynekiller_: can't hurt.  you may be right though.  I've cat'ed iso's together before in that fashion.  might work.03:00
BigDaddynosrednaekim: the old Nomad are well supported. But my Vision W shows up as a camera03:01
nosrednaekimBigDaddy: lol, MTP should support it just fine.. did you try amarok with it yet?03:01
BigDaddythe protocol they use is a photo transfer protocol hacked for music.03:01
Dr_willis_heh..03:01
MoLernerMy videocard is displaying weird flickering artifacts after coming out of suspend in Vista. would moving to Grub + dualboot have caused this?03:01
BigDaddyI tried it on 7.04, not on 7.1003:01
Dr_willis_MoLerner,  i highly doubt it.03:02
dick-richardsonI swapped sound cards and the new one is working great...is there something I should run to remove references to the old one? depmod or something similar?03:02
nosrednaekimMoLerner: dun't think so03:02
MoLernerthanks so much03:02
Kr4t05bascule: No dice, I guess I'll have to go the deletion-recreation route.03:02
Dr_willis_MoLerner,  if you cold boot from power off to windows..  and it does work.. THEN reboot to linux/reboot back to windows and it has issues.. THEN you may have a point.03:02
basculeKr4t05: well see what's in tmp to03:02
Kr4t05But, that means passing about 50GB of music/movies and anime. :P03:03
Dr_willis_MoLerner,  but i doubt if linux has anything to do with it.03:03
* [ka]killer removes xine 03:03
killer_bwayne: nope.. get huge file that displays only one page03:03
Gun_SmokeAnd anyhow.. I dropped by to ask if there are any good reads out there for coming from gnome to KDE.. As of the fresh install of 7.10 I've opted to run full KDE..03:03
Dr_willis_Gun_Smoke,   start exploring kde.. :) its rather straightforwared.03:03
nosrednaekimGun_Smoke: I don't know of any... just ask in here any Questions you have :)03:03
Kr4t05bascule: kde-andrew (the primary account)03:03
[ka]killerf***IK THAT WAS NOT SMART03:04
Gun_SmokeDr_willis_: nosrednaekim Thanks.. I'm poking around now..03:04
Kr4t05bascule: Should I nuke it?03:04
basculeKr4t05: well from where you are now try removing /tmp/ksocket-OLD_USER stuff and redo th .DCOP also do ~/.ICEauthority and ~/.Xauthority03:04
[ka]killercrap T_T03:04
[ka]killerjohn@kotoko:~$ sudo apt-get remove amarok-xine libxine-dev libxine-xvdr libxine1 libxine1-console libxine1-ffmpeg libxine1-gnome libxine1-plugins libxineliboutput-fbfe libxinerama-dev libxinerama1 vdr-plugin-xineliboutput x11proto-xinerama-dev xine-ui03:04
[ka]killerwas not a smart thing to do03:04
Dr_willis_hmm.. just had several updates.. Looks like the patches have begun! :)03:05
nosrednaekim[ka]killer: just reinstall the,03:05
[ka]killerHELLLLLP!!!!! ]03:05
nosrednaekim*them03:05
[ka]killerim trying03:05
* Dr_willis_ wonders what uninstalling xine had to do with anything...03:05
Kr4t05bascule: Done, done and done.03:05
Kr4t05Log out and in?03:05
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ka]killer: use vlc player?03:05
basculek, good luck03:05
Kr4t05Thanks.03:05
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ka]killer: sudo apt-get install vlc03:06
Dr_willis_i do like vlc. :)03:06
juliusAnyone having bugs with the login manager for 7.10?03:06
Dr_willis_julius,  not that i am aware of.03:06
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: are you the real Dr_willis?03:06
edenbeastI think smplayer is great03:06
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  Yes.. both of me are me..03:06
killer_hey bwayne ,  pdftk03:06
Dr_willis_One is the pc in the basement.03:06
edenbeastbest version of mplayer I've seen so far03:06
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: get on the other guy then03:06
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: i like him better03:06
bwaynekiller_: or pdfjam.03:07
[ka]killerE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:07
[ka]killerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:07
Dr_willis_when i am in the basemet i am that one. :)03:07
basculeooooops03:07
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ka]killer: you have adept open03:07
bascule:))03:07
[ka]killerno03:07
Dr_willis_im in the kitchen at the moment.03:07
[ka]killerno i dont03:07
[ka]killerit started to remove adept and i closed the terminal03:07
juliusDr_willis: Well after a failed login  the input areas appeared to be greyed out but they were still active. Restarting X fixed it03:07
Linux_GaloreI couldnt find any Kubuntu Gutsy CD artwork so I have posted some on www.kde-look.org  just now03:07
[ka]killerim screwed T_T03:07
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ka]killer: [ka]killerlog out and log in? then try the code03:07
nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: there is a kubuntu-art site aswell03:07
Kr4t05bascule: Still not working. :/03:08
jpwhitingno luck..., actually for some reason when I try to load nvidia or nvidia_new it says it can't find the device for some reason03:08
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: its just a quick hack of a LTS image03:08
basculeKr4t05: arrrrgh, I am sure I resoved this for myself, long tome agi on mandrake 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade and it was cause of those sockets03:08
bwaynekiller_: this looks promising.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfsam/03:08
jpwhitingwonder if I need some module for my motherboard so the kernel can find it or something03:08
jpwhitingbut the nv driver works... :(03:09
Gun_Smokewhat do we have in the form of gDesklets?03:09
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: kubuntu-art has no Gutsy images either, are you saying post the image there too03:09
[ka]killerdidnt help03:09
[ka]killerCRAP03:09
Dr_willis_!info gdesklets03:09
ubotugdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB03:09
nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: yeah03:09
[ka]killerT_T03:09
Dr_willis_gdesklets are for Gnome I do belive03:09
Dr_willis_Not sure how well they work for KDe.03:10
nosrednaekim!screenlets03:10
ubotuScreenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/03:10
Linux_Galore!artwork03:10
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:10
basculeGun_Smoke: superkaramba03:10
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ka]killer: why did you close the terminal when uninstalling adept03:10
jpwhitingDr_willis_: they work ok in kde last time I used them03:10
bascule!info superkaramba03:10
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB03:10
Kr4t05bascule: I have the following rm line going on: "sudo rm -rf /tmp/*-andrew/ /home/andrew/.kde* /home/andrew/.DCOP* /home/andrew/.ICEauthority /home/andrew/.Xauthority"03:10
Dr_willis_jpwhiting,  ive yet to really see any of them worth using. :)03:10
Kr4t05Would that work?03:10
Gun_Smokebascule: ty03:10
Dr_willis_jpwhiting,  i am using Conky however. ;)03:10
Dr_willis_!info conky03:10
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB03:10
basculeKr4t05: that really should do it ... :)03:11
basculeif not i dunno03:11
jpwhitinganyone here know what sort of modules I'd need for the kernel to be able to find pci-e nvidia card?03:11
Kr4t05Basically kill anything KDE-related that might lock me out. :P03:11
jpwhitingwhen I load nvidia it says device not found, etc.03:11
basculeKr4t05: yes al sorts of interlocked kde stuff that lost bits from.kde03:11
[ka]killerok i had to kill dpkg03:11
Dr_willis_jpwhiting,  i dident need to mess with that at all.. Odd.. where/why are you manually loading the nvidia module?03:11
jpwhitingdoes pci-e use the agp bus?03:11
jpwhitingDr_willis_: from the console when X doesn't start when set to use nvidia03:12
jpwhitingworks fine with nv though :(03:12
jpwhitingI think it might have something to do with my weird asus motherboard or something03:12
Dr_willis_jpwhiting,  you sure you got the nvidia packages installed properly?03:12
jpwhitingDr_willis_: yep03:12
Dr_willis_only module i see related to it is ------->  agpgart                35016  1 nvidia03:12
Dr_willis_thats from the lsmod command03:12
jpwhitingah, lemme see if I have agpgart, one moment03:13
Dr_willis_i2c_core               26112  2 nvidia,i2c_nforce203:13
jpwhitingis your nvidia card agp? or pci-e?03:13
jpwhitingyep, I have agpgart loaded03:13
Dr_willis_PCIE 8800GTSXXX card here.03:13
jpwhitingand ali_agp and ati_agp03:13
Dr_willis_what is your exact card?03:13
jpwhitingpcie 7300 GS03:13
attunixHow do I get GTK installed? I keep getting an "error: gtk/gtk.h: no such file or directory".03:14
jpwhitingfrom lspci:03:14
jpwhiting01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] (rev a1)03:14
Dr_willis_it might be a bug with that card and the nvidia drivers.03:14
besonen_mobile_where's the 7.10 changelog?03:14
Dr_willis_attunix,  what is giving you that error? Trying to compile somthing?03:14
Kr4t05bascule: Here's a pastebin of /home/andrew03:15
juliusHow do i stop kate from by default opening all the stuff i try to download]03:15
Kr4t05bascule: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41469/03:15
attunixDr_willis_: yes03:15
[ka]killerwtf my mouse randomly jumps to the top right corner of my screen03:15
Dr_willis_attunix,  thenyou need to install the various gtk developer packages.03:15
Dr_willis_attunix,  no idea which one however. :)03:15
attunixok.03:15
OakboxNight all03:16
DaSkreechBigDaddy: May want to turn on THE OSD as well03:16
BigDaddyDaSkreech: how did you know I had that?03:16
jpwhitingyes, maybe03:17
bascule.ICEauthority  .Xauthority are files and still there, re-created at last login attempt?03:17
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surgyhow long does it take for my sound card to completely initialize after a log in to xwindows? i mean from time the mixer and drivers load until a game can use it?03:18
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: http://kubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+7.10+Gutsy+CD+DVD+Artwork+(Unofficial)?content=6821903:18
nosrednaekimsurgy: they should be loaded before x even starts03:18
Kr4t05bascule: I guess.03:18
[ka]killerbah03:18
surgynosrednaekim: ok thnx03:18
Kr4t05I don't think sudo is working... Maybe permissions are messed up?03:18
basculenah03:19
basculesudo will clobber it03:19
[ka]killer...03:19
[ka]killerok something is really screwed up03:19
Kr4t05bascule: Oh... This user isn't a sudoer. ><03:19
Kr4t05BRB03:19
[ka]killeri think i need to re-format again T_T03:19
[ka]killerbut first i need to burn a gusty disk...03:20
Dr_willis_Spoken like a windows user! :)03:20
[ka]killerand its not detecting my burner....03:20
[ka]killerT_T03:21
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ka]killer: why do you just try to fix it03:21
[ka]killerim trying03:21
[ka]killerbut nothign is working....03:21
[ka]killerscrew it03:21
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ka]killer: before reinstalling so you learn something03:21
AT0M1CB0MB3R[ka]killer: ill try look on google03:22
[ka]killerreinstalling festy03:22
[ka]killermaybe then xine wont be f**ked up03:22
ranceIs there a way to have apt-get automatically install "suggested packages" when they are listed?03:22
killer_bwayne: pdftk *.pdf cat output combined.pdf03:22
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nosrednaekimrance: use aptitude, which does that03:23
michaelHola03:24
abe!es03:24
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.03:24
abecompiz run on 7,.1?03:24
abe7.1003:24
Dr_willis_!compiz03:24
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion03:24
michaelAlguien me sabe decir que tiene de especial la version 7.10?03:24
[ka]killerdam it all03:25
[ka]killerits not detecting my cd drive so i cant boot from it03:25
abeDr_willis_: i tried to fallow that instruction on feisty in didn't work03:25
bwaynekiller_: sweet.  that'll come in handy.03:25
michael!spanish03:25
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.03:25
Dr_willis_abe,  its not for feisty.03:25
[ka]killer>_<03:26
[ka]killerits not detecting my cd drive to boot from03:26
abeok i will try03:26
[ka]killerits not detecting it to burn03:26
[ka]killerWTF03:26
nosrednaekim[ka]killer: reinstall xine?03:26
killer_bwayne: yep.. I have a notebook and I scanned the pages to pdf, now I have a digital notebook :)03:26
[ka]killerit didnt get a chance to remove xine... it started with adept and kde03:26
[ka]killer+ i already did that03:26
bwaynekiller_: what program you use to scan?03:27
[ka]killerscan for what?03:27
killer_bwayne: I did a project for a client and now that it's all done.. I want them to have a copy of my notes since they paid for all this03:27
bwaynekiller_: nice professional touch.03:28
killer_bwayne: aahh.. I was time pressed .. I cheated.. my next door neighbor has a printing company, makes books,manuals and the like, ....03:28
[ka]killer...03:28
[ka]killerprofessional nothign right now im just trying not to screw my box over03:28
[ka]killerits the only 'working' comp in teh house right now03:28
killer_bwayne: ... he has a really nice copy machine with scan to pdf.. each page took about 2 seconds to make pdf03:28
Dr_willis_a huge pdf with lots of jpgs in it! :)03:28
[ka]killerum...03:29
bwaynekiller_: i have a HP Officejet that works well with Kooka.  HP Utils are buggy though.  I was able to send a fax directly from my PC one time, but haven't gotten it to work again since.03:29
shadowhywindDoes anyone know if there is a fix for knetworkmanger to make it work again?03:29
killer_bwayne: previously I use kooka03:29
killer_yep03:29
[ka]killerwho the hell is talkign about printing03:30
Kr4t05Hey, I got logged in!03:30
killer_[ka]killer: I am03:30
[ka]killerwtf does printing have to do with my cd drive not being detected03:30
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: whats wrong with it?03:30
[ka]killer...03:30
Kr4t05But, something weird just happened.03:30
basculeKr4t05: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2004-04/4107.html03:30
nosrednaekim[ka]killer: there is another killer logged on..03:30
bwaynesome of us actually use a KDE environment in a professional setting.03:30
Dr_willis_:)03:30
[ka]killeri didnt notice that03:30
Kr4t05Adept says there is a new distribution version available.03:30
[ka]killerim not used to being in heavily populated rooms03:30
bwayneprinting becomes important.03:30
rancesorry its late, I just saw the answer, thanks03:31
[ka]killeryah... i have an hp photosmart 810003:31
killer_bwayne: I've been using KDE as my only workstation since 200103:31
Dr_willis_Kr4t05,  pay no attention to the bug behind the update... :)03:31
[ka]killerplug it in and it works =P03:31
Kr4t05"But you promised me a brain!"03:31
shadowhywindnosrednaekim, it just allows me to manually configure my connectsions, it doesn't see my ethernet nor my wireless connection03:31
Dr_willis_Kr4t05,  thats an OS of a Different color...03:31
BluesKajwelcome to Kubuntu-opolis [ka]killer03:31
bwaynekiller_: wow.  i've been using GNU/Linux for around a year.  KDE won me over not too long ago.03:31
* Dr_willis_ releases the winged lawyers!03:31
[ka]killeri want to kill this computer T_T03:32
abehey compiz is working03:32
Kr4t05Should I follow the Yellow-Brick Distro?03:32
[ka]killercant wait till i get the money to ubild mine03:32
DaSkreechKr4t05: Wow you could make that rm much simpler :)03:32
* Kr4t05 breaks into song.03:32
abegreat03:32
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: try this "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"03:33
Kr4t05Dr_willis_: So, do I ignore the "new version" or proceed?03:33
nosrednaekimignore03:33
Dr_willis_Kr4t05,  it wont do anytyhing if you procede03:34
Dr_willis_Kr4t05,  i just tried it. :)03:34
nosrednaekimah... I thought it crashed..03:34
Dr_willis_It tries to do stuff.. but then says  You are up to date.03:34
Kr4t05As did I.03:34
Kr4t05Nice.03:34
shadowhywindnosrednaekim, did that, everything came up with ok. With no luck03:34
Kr4t05Okay... Time to install all the stuff that I could really use.03:34
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: no difference? huh03:34
Kr4t05And some stuff that I don't need at all.03:34
shadowhywindnosrednaekim nope, i restarted knetworkmanager and still nothing. This started happening after a bunch of kde updates couple weeks ago on fiesty03:35
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: knetworkmangler is wonky sometimes... does you wireless work?03:35
shadowhywindmy wireless does work03:35
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: do you need WPA?03:35
shadowhywindsometimes yes03:35
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: oh :(03:36
shadowhywindthe oddpart was when i was in the middle of my gusty update, and KDE crashed when i restarted knetworkmanager was working. But after i finished gusty updates, it went back to its not working state03:36
DaSkreechrance: --with-recommends or -r03:37
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: try purging knetoworkmanager and then reinstalling03:37
shadowhywindk, trying that now03:38
rancegot it, thanks, it was in the man page03:38
DaSkreech!wpa03:39
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:39
DaSkreech!man03:39
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:39
DaSkreech:)03:39
shadowhywindif i purged knetworkmanager why can i still run it ?03:40
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: you killed it and then it runns when you try to start it?03:41
killer_bwayne: I had to leave windows.. I really enjoy rebooting four or 5 times a year03:41
shadowhywindi purged it, restarted X and it loaded, so i closed it, and tried to open it from the kmenu and it was still there03:41
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: wierd! try getting rid of networkmanager03:42
killer_bwayne: also I have upto 12 virtual desktops to organize my workflow.. windows cannot compare with the level of productivity03:42
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: ah...remove "network-manager-kde03:42
shadowhywinddoing that now03:43
killer_I have projects that I leave open for weeks on virtual desktops03:43
killer_if I have to reboot, I cry03:43
shadowhywindok so that looks like it removed it03:43
shadowhywindand i am reinstalling it now03:43
Dr_willis_windows - the anti-producitivity03:43
shadowhywindand same thing, it still not working03:44
nosrednaekimshadowhywind: did you do a complete removal?03:44
shadowhywindi did a purge on both of them03:44
killer_Dr_willis_: windows is for keeping a live person attached to the mouse. but computers are actually capable of doing work without a person having to babysit it03:45
Dr_willis_killer_,  blasphmy! dont let the boss's know!03:45
Dr_willis_:)03:45
* Dr_willis_ is exploring the possible REAL productivity boosters of compiz..03:45
Dr_willis_Inverting colors on windows.. handy.. zoom.. also handy. :)03:46
Dr_willis_Clone - NO idea what thats for. :)03:46
fluffmanbah03:46
killer_Dr_willis_: I tell my boss several times aday why it is that I work so slow03:46
fluffmanI thought it was just for impressing vista users03:46
Kr4t05I had to use Zoom when I broke my glasses.03:46
Kr4t05I guess that's a testament to how bad my vision is.03:46
DaSkreechDr_willis_: Stack Windows03:47
Dr_willis_Hmm.. some how i cant move this window now03:47
killer_Dr_willis_: it's like "hey.. do you want the work finished? or just want me to push a cursor around all day?"03:47
DaSkreechDr_willis_: No wait it's group windows03:47
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Dr_willis_well some how i broke compiz and cant click to focus windows now. :)03:48
nosrednaekimDr_willis_: why are you always breaking it?lol03:48
Dr_willis_cant even click on tabs in xchat.03:48
Dr_willis_its as if mouse clicks no longer affect anything03:48
Dr_willis_Yeppers look like i may need to be restarting X to kick this in the head. :P03:49
Dr_willis_BB in a few03:50
nosrednaekim:)03:50
ashfaqcan I run windows xp through vmware in gutstsy kdm? how ? please help03:50
nosrednaekimashfaq: not via kdm, not03:50
shane_anyone else having trouble getting emerald themes/beryl to work in gutsy?03:50
ashfaqI mean in kubuntu gutsy03:51
shane_ashfaq - I imagine you would just install VMware, set up a virtual machine and install XP on it via a CD or whatever03:51
ashfaqI just checked the vm virtual machine in xp has installed ubuntu, similarily if kubuntu can do that I will get rid of xp03:52
tekstacyashfaq, try VirtualBox03:52
shane_how do I get an emerald theme to actually go into effect03:52
shane_I select them but I don't see any changes03:52
tekstacyI have XP running now03:52
ashfaqBut I am not able to access other folders of host in xp03:52
shane_ashfaq - I'm not sure if XP can read ext3 formatted partitions03:53
ashfaqThats right shane03:53
adz21cit can read ext2 with a driver plugin03:53
DaSkreechashfaq: yes it can03:54
shane_ok, nevermind then03:54
ashfaqThat is why I want to install it on kubuntu keep it as default os, as now I am having dual os03:54
Dr_willis_ashfaq,  i use vmware-server to run Xp all the time. :)03:55
[ifr0g]!compiz03:55
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion03:55
Dr_willis_shane_,  check that !compiz site i put in notes on how to do just that. :)03:55
[ifr0g]ah, NoT :D03:55
ashfaqvmware server is available in the kubuntu package?03:55
tekstacy!aptfix03:55
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:55
Dr_willis_ashfaq,  it used to be.. not sure if its in the gutsy comercial repos yet.03:56
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AndyMan1I'd like to install Gutsy and have /home on a separate encrypted partition, is this possible?03:56
Dr_willis_ashfaq,  its not too hard to install from the vmware packages from vmware03:56
Dr_willis_AndyMan1,  i hear it is. :)03:56
AndyMan1yay!03:56
ashfaqJust help me out if it is or to get that in Kubuntu please03:56
AndyMan1any idea where to start looking? i've checked the ubuntu wiki but either can't find anything or my google-fu isn't up to snuff03:57
Dr_willis_ashfaq,  i found a link the other day that walked ya through it.. let me see...03:57
Dr_willis_http://www.ubuntuhq.com/search/node/vmware03:57
Dr_willis_thats a darn handy site :) lots of good info03:58
ashfaqDr_willis_: this link would help? let me check it!03:58
Dr_willis_ashfaq,  its rather straight forward. The only issue is that you must use the vmware 'patch' thing to get the modules compiled properly03:58
Dr_willis_You do have a vmware-server serial #? if not you can get one for free from the vmware site. by fillingout a form.03:59
shadowhywindok so i may have fixed knetworkmanager, but ran into another issue03:59
shadowhywindHas anyone heard of a wireless card not working in windows or linux, But after reinstalling the drivers in windows, it works in windows AND linux?04:00
AndyMan1that sounds weird enough to be true =P04:00
Dr_willis_shadowhywind,  its possible the pnp features of windows sets up the irq/dma/stuff proplery for the card04:00
Dr_willis_shadowhywind,  ive had some odd issues with sound cards in the past ages ago - similer ot that.04:00
Dr_willis_The card would NOT work - if i booted to windows first. :)04:01
[ifr0g]shadowhywind, maybe on lala land..04:01
Dr_willis_wonder if the drivers flashed the bios onthe card or somthing.04:01
shadowhywindthis has been happening for the last month or so. But if i go into vista i wont have a wireless card. But after i install the drivers and switch back to linux i have them04:01
Linux_Galoreshadowhywind: yes, the new driver initiated a firmware patch04:02
shadowhywindbut then why wouldn't it stay?04:02
AT0M1CB0MB3Rcan somebody help me with compiz-fusion?04:03
Linux_Galoreshadowhywind: because its not rom based, it loads the patch when initated04:03
ksivajiadept_updater consumes all my bandwidth i can use opera is there any way to run adept with low bandwidth04:03
ksivajicant* use opera04:03
tomerhello04:04
AT0M1CB0MB3R!compiz04:04
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion04:04
Dr_willis_i just decided to turn OFF compiz for now under kde. :)04:04
Dr_willis_too many little issues04:05
Linux_Galorethere are some seriously goofy driver hacks out for hardware running in Windows04:05
fluffman!kde404:05
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php04:05
nickprestaIs there any Beryl package for Gutsy?04:05
fluffmanDr_willis_: I agree04:05
Dr_willis_nickpresta,  i would say NO.. since compiz replaces it04:05
fluffmanI used compiz for about 10 minutes04:05
fluffmanI hate it compared to beryl04:06
fluffman:(04:06
Dr_willis_fluffman,  i like some of the fetures.. but not really that handy.04:06
Kr4t05Dr_willis_: Little issues? Care to elaborate?04:06
nickprestaDr_willis_: I'm sorry but I feel that CF is a poor replacement. It's buggy and doesn't do what I want. Beryl, although replaced, still works the way I want04:06
Dr_willis_Kr4t05,  not really. :) go try it and start noticing them.. Lets see.. input dialog box's not taking the focus.. lokups.. having to look in compiz settings manager for what used tobe a kde setting.. so forth04:07
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AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: how do i completely uninstall/purge  xserver-xgl and compiz-kde04:07
Linux_Galorenickpresta: beryl is deprecated, CF is the merging of compiz and beryl04:07
DaSkreechInteresting04:07
Dr_willis_nickpresta,   i feel the whole compiz/beryl stuff is getting pushed out the gate too fast to impress people.04:07
nickprestaLinux_Galore: I am aware of that. It's still a poor replacement in my opinion04:07
moparisthebesthi, I am upgrading this computer from feisty to gutsy, and ran into a little problem half way04:07
DaSkreech Microsoft is figuring out how to interface with your brain?04:07
moparisthebestSetting up acpid (1.0.4-5ubuntu8) ...04:07
moparisthebest * Loading ACPI modules...                                     [ OK ]04:07
moparisthebest * Starting ACPI services...                                          invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.04:07
Linux_Galorenickpresta: its not a replacement, its the exact same code04:07
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  thers no need to.  if you dont run the compiz --replace command kde wont be using it.04:07
moparisthebestso since that won't set up, dpkg aborts04:08
fluffmanAT0M1CB0MB3R: sudo apt-get remove --purge compiz kde xserver-xgl04:08
Kr4t05!paste | moparisthebest04:08
ubotumoparisthebest: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:08
moparisthebestany ideas on how to get it to set up correctly?04:08
Dr_willis_I found that removing compiz broke my Gnome. :()04:08
moparisthebestKr4t05, normally you can paste <= 3 lines in IRC, is that not the case in here?04:08
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: i want to remove it so i can reinstall :]04:08
nickprestaLinux_Galore:  CF is now "updated" and "fancier" code than Beryl, since Beryl is not being worked on anymore and their enhancements have been merged back04:08
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  and what will reinstalling it acomplish? Not much. this is Linux - not windows.04:09
nickprestaAt any rate, is there a package for Beryl in Gutsy?04:09
AndyMan1anyone know where to find how to install with an encrypted /home?04:09
Dr_willis_!beryl04:09
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz04:09
Kr4t05moparisthebest: Well, I'm not sure how that applies... I'm not a mod, but I did notice a large "chunk" of text scroll by.04:09
Dr_willis_Guess thats a no to beryl04:09
michaelKubuntu 7.10 is more good?04:09
Kr4t05I suppose it's up to whoever is incharge.04:09
Dr_willis_more gooder :)04:09
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: the config file makes it hard to get compiz working :[04:09
nickprestagah. I dislike that decision...04:09
Linux_Galorenickpresta: fancier lol, its just merged in code from Beryl, beryl itself had issues with compiz anyway CF just attempts to iron some of them out04:09
michaeland 7.04?04:09
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  what config file?04:09
DaSkreechmoparisthebest: try apt-get install that by itself ?04:09
moparisthebestit was only 3 lines, that is usually ok, but I'll check next time in case :)04:10
AT0M1CB0MB3Risnt that why i purge it?04:10
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: isnt that why i purge it?04:10
michael7.04 is good?04:10
fluffmanAT0M1CB0MB3R: also remove .compiz in ~/04:10
moparisthebestDaSkreech, same thing04:10
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  purging a package will not remove users settings/config files.. what config file are you refering to?04:10
DaSkreechAndyMan1: not install then encrypt home?04:10
moparisthebestevery apt-get run it tries to install 3 packages, and all fail because they depend on acpid04:10
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  if you totally messed up the compiz settings remove the users settings file.04:10
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwhat does purging do the,04:10
Kr4t05michael: Well, yeah... But 7.10 has a lot of newer things in it that make it better. :)04:10
Dr_willis_!apt04:10
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:10
AT0M1CB0MB3RDr_willis_: how do i do that?04:11
DaSkreechmoparisthebest: Why does it fail ?04:11
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R, like fluffman  said.. remove the files in the users home dir. under .compiz04:11
moparisthebestDaSkreech, I assume because of "invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.04:11
moparisthebest"04:11
moparisthebestyea, that is the reason given04:11
tomer_!compiz04:11
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion04:11
* Linux_Galore wonders about people who complain about beta CF functionality 04:11
AndyMan1well in one way or another I'd like to both install Gutsy and have /home on an encrypted partition (at least, maybe the rest of the OS too), but i don't know where to start04:11
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R, if you think that will help. Youve not really stated the actual problem.04:11
Dr_willis_of course Im uing the 'flatfile' setting for compiz settings.. so not sure where it keeps them04:12
martin_hi, can anyone tell me how to access an usb-device in kubuntu?04:12
Dr_willis_I dont even see a .compiz file or direcoty04:12
martin_everytime i insert a stick or cam, just nothing happens04:12
nickprestaDr_willis_: /etc/compizconfig, I believe04:12
Linux_GaloreShould have a notice on that "although compiz-fussion works it is still considered "unstable" so unexpected bugs will happen"04:12
tomer_compiz --replace causes the title bars of my windows to disapear04:13
tomer_any ideas?04:13
Dr_willis_nickpresta,  thats sytem wide. :) for my user. i see to have a .config/compiz04:13
tomer_i then have to restart04:13
Dr_willis_tomer,  you have emerald installed?04:13
tomer_well i did this:sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde emerald04:13
Dr_willis_and is this a clean install or upgrade?04:13
tomer_it is an upgrade from 70404:14
Dr_willis_'upgrade' seems to be a common thing in compiz issues..04:14
DaSkreechmoparisthebest: Is there a start action for /etc/init.d/acpid ?04:14
tomer_so no solution?04:14
fluffmanI just tried to install kde 4, but when I try to log in, I just return to the login screen04:15
fluffman:(04:15
moparisthebesthaha, finally found the solution on the ubuntu forums DaSkreech, realy strange too04:15
martin_i mean, shouldnt a usb stick be automatically detected?04:15
fluffmanwhat's wrong?04:15
moparisthebestrun:04:15
moparisthebestsudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop04:15
moparisthebestsudo dpkg --configure acpid04:15
moparisthebestand it works fine after that04:15
Dr_willis_tomer_,  i always do a clean install.. so cant help ya there. I followed the !compiz guide and it works.04:15
moparisthebestthanks :)04:15
DaSkreechmoparisthebest: Thats' what I was going to suggest :)04:16
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow do i run compiz at startup?04:16
tomer_whats the easiest way to restart X on the machine04:16
tomer_without rebooting04:16
AT0M1CB0MB3Rand run emerald?04:16
moparisthebestok, here is another question, this install was originally xubuntu, and I installed kubuntu-desktop, is there any way to remove all the xubuntu stuff?04:16
fluffmantomer_: logout, then alt+e04:16
Dr_willis_AT0M1CB0MB3R,  IF 'compiz --replace' works.04:16
Kr4t05AT0M1CB0MB3R: Go find a deb for fusion-icon.04:16
DaSkreechtomer_: Easy or fast?04:17
Dr_willis_you can make a auto start entry for it in the .kde/Autostart dir04:17
Dr_willis_!find autostart04:17
ubotuFound: kcontrol-autostart, mythbuntu-live-autostart04:17
Dr_willis_!info kcontrol-autostart04:17
ubotukcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 216 kB04:17
Dr_willis_I would just make an icon ont he desktop that runs 'compiz --replace' and try it for a few days04:18
DaSkreechhttp://www.newscientist.com/blog/invention/2007/10/microsoft-mind-reading.html04:18
fluffmanmoparisthebest: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde04:18
moparisthebestperfect, much appreciated fluffman :)04:19
fluffmanyour welcom04:19
fluffmane04:19
DaSkreech!purekde04:19
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »04:19
hexstar_test04:20
Dr_willis_!puregnome04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:20
Dr_willis_:)04:20
Dr_willis_Take that gnome!04:20
hexstar_anyone else notice this issue: http://pastebin.ca/744134 ??04:20
fluffmanlol04:20
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hexstar_how can I fix that issue?04:20
Dr_willis_looks like some server issues to me hexstar_  might want to change servers in the sources.list file04:21
moparisthebestI did run into that issue hexstar_04:21
moparisthebestit was a GPG issue for me04:21
John117Hey guy!   how is it going?04:21
hexstar_ok04:21
moparisthebestI had to put a default file there to fix it04:21
hexstar_also, why does this happen?04:22
hexstar_sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade04:22
hexstar_E: Sense dist is not understood, try true or false.04:22
moparisthebestI have it bookmarked on another computer, it took me forever to find it, I'll see what I can do here04:22
Dr_willis_hexstar_,  try without the --04:22
John117I"m having a little trouble getting some of the kinks worked out of Compiz Fusion on Gutsy.  Does anybody have a few minutes and alot of patience?04:22
John117dr_willis_ I got it installed, btw.04:23
hexstar_Dr_willis ah thanks04:23
moparisthebesthexstar_, that pastebin site you linked me to, does it crash your firefox? :S04:23
Dr_willis_:)04:23
hexstar_moparisthebest: no... :-/04:23
Dr_willis_moparisthebest,  heh heh crashing pastebin. :)04:23
John117dr_willis_ thank you for your help..  I"m just trying to get it to RUN and WORK. lol04:23
Dr_willis_dident crash me either.04:23
moparisthebestyea, its crashing firefox, but opened in konqueror :/04:23
Dr_willis_John117,  heck - i cant even remebr what you were working on.04:23
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moparisthebeststrange, probably the second time Ive had firefox crash04:23
moparisthebestand it does it every time :/04:23
Dr_willis_moparisthebest,  blame compiz04:24
Dr_willis_:)04:24
moparisthebestIf I wasn't using pure kde I would Dr_willis :P04:24
Kr4t05Okay... Time to restart X.04:24
John117dr_willis_ sorry. :)   I finally got compiz fusion installed on Gutsy.  The install wen't fine.   I got no errors when i tried to start it, but i don't have wobbly windows or a desktop cube :(04:24
hexstar_huh, there dosn't seem to be that much new: http://pastebin.ca/74414004:24
Dr_willis_moparisthebest,  you mean the   http://pastebin.ca/744134  site? its not even using anything special that i can see. No flash or anything04:24
moparisthebestthat is the one04:25
Dr_willis_JohanSalim,  #*@ the cube. :)04:25
Dr_willis_oops wrong nick. :)04:25
moparisthebestI am upgrading a lot of packages now though, could be the problem I guess04:25
Dr_willis_John117,  @*@8 the cube. :)  use 'compiz --replace' to get compiz started04:25
John117dr_willis_ i know how you feel about the cube. :)   I'm just trying to learn :)04:25
Dr_willis_Now the zoom - is a handy feature04:25
hexstar_damn..security.ubuntu.com is slow...04:25
moparisthebestJohn117, the cube is great for impressing windows users :)04:26
John117dr_willis_ i used that command.  but the window wobble and certain other offects don't work.04:26
moparisthebestthats all I ever used beryl for :P04:26
Dr_willis_did the title bars change their look?04:26
hexstar_I'm getting less then 1kb/s!!!04:26
Dr_willis_if so run ccsm and start twiddling with the settings04:26
John117dr_willis_ how do i verify that compiz IS running, and how do i use the zoom?     Not really.04:26
hexstar_I'm not sure why the kubuntu team finds it acceptable to use servers on dialup connections but whatever04:26
Dr_willis_John117,  does the terminal say anything. the one ya ran compiz --replace in.04:26
Dr_willis_John117,  when i use compiz --replace the screne flashes black, then the titlebars all change to the compiz/emerald them i got selected04:27
hexstar_does anyone else here get slow speeds with security.ubuntu.com when using apt-get?04:27
UnluckyMikedoes kubuntu use /etc/network/interfaces the same as ubuntu04:28
Toma-yes04:28
John117dr_willis_ AHA!  glx not present!04:28
Dr_willis_run ccsm, check the  'ehnahced zoom desktop' then hold down the windows key and scroll the mouse wheel. :)04:28
tomeranyone got the 3d desktop to work after a 704 to 710 upgrade???04:28
Dr_willis_John117,  you got an nvidia card?04:28
John117dr_willis_ nope..  GD ati04:28
tomerfreaking giving me problems04:28
Dr_willis_John117,  good luck to you then...04:29
hexstar_64 bytes from auckland.canonical.com (91.189.88.37): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=171 ms <_<04:29
Dr_willis_you did install the ati drivers with the restricted-manager tool?04:29
Dr_willis_!info restricted-manager04:29
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB04:29
John117dr_willis_ i know, right!   Is there something i can read about that?      Nope..04:29
Dr_willis_is there a kde front end to that?04:29
Dr_willis_John117,  i always use that tool :)04:29
John117dr_williss_ how do i do it?04:30
Dr_willis_John117,  install that tool.. run it.. click the boxs, restart X. Done. :)04:30
hexstar_aight well my question was answered and that is what I cam here for so I'm gonna go now, thanks for the help guys...kubuntu is a great free product...keep it up! :)04:30
Dr_willis_if you are lucky04:31
* Dr_willis_ sends hexstar_ a bill.04:31
Dr_willis_:P04:31
John117dr_willis_ how do i run the restricted driver manager?04:31
Dr_willis_try 'rest<Tab key>'04:32
Dr_willis_one of the MORe logicially named tools :)04:32
fluffmanJohn117: K menu > system > advanced04:32
Dr_willis_its faster to use the shell then serach the menus. :)04:32
Dr_willis_ack katpult aint working04:33
fluffman* I mean system settings, not system04:33
michaelwillis kubuntu 7.04 is good?04:33
DaSkreechDr_willis_: Run for the hills!04:33
fluffmanI just installed KDE4, but when I try to log into it, I return to the login screen04:35
fluffmananybody know what's going on there?04:35
moparisthebest!purekde04:37
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »04:37
michael!spanish04:37
fluffmanD:04:37
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.04:37
Dr_willis_yep - i think compiz.. seriously needs a bit more work.... :)04:38
fluffmanDr_willis_: are you running kde 4 per chance?04:39
Dr_willis_nope04:39
fluffmanD:04:39
Dr_willis_I got enough beta stuff on here now. :)04:39
hydrogencompiz needs to just die.04:39
fluffmanI guess I'll just have to wait04:39
hydrogenfluffman: kde4 beta is really not worth trying04:39
Dr_willis_rocksndiamonds - Arcade style game --- Woo hoo..one of the greatest games of all time! is in the  repos now!04:40
* DaSkreech smacks hydrogen04:40
Dr_willis_:)04:40
hydrogenDaSkreech: its still utterly unprepared, and is really painful on the eyes04:40
hydrogenit's /not/ something you want people to try04:40
fluffmanoh04:40
hydrogenits something you want to cry in a corner over04:40
mbosoIf I am using ubuntu, what is the best way to get the latest amarok package? what repo should I use?04:40
DaSkreechhydrogen: it IS something we want people to betatest04:40
hydrogenDaSkreech: betatesting now is going to make people quit and install gnome04:41
DaSkreechmboso: What version of Ubuntu ?04:41
dystopianraymboso: install gutsy and you have the latest04:41
hydrogenits in feisty-backports as well04:41
dystopianraymboso: or if you're on feisty, get the latest amarok from feisty-backports04:41
hydrogenthere is absolutely no need to install gutsy04:41
mbosodystopianray: Ok cool. was going to upgrade to gutsy in a few minutes.04:41
fluffmandon't worry hydrogen, I'm NOT switching to gnome04:41
DaSkreechhydrogen: So we should take down the repos?04:41
mbosothought i had to add a kubuntu repo or something04:41
mbosonice04:41
mbosothanks04:41
MsGeekHi folks.04:41
dystopianraymboso: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repos04:41
hydrogenDaSkreech: no, we should just be quiet about them and hope no one notices04:41
Dr_willis_lets burn all the computers! :004:42
dystopianraywhat's wrong with the repos?04:42
MsGeekI get a whole lot of nothing when I try to run the live CD on my ThinkPad 600x04:42
DaSkreechand if they ask tell them they don't exist ?04:42
hydrogenI suppose you can try some kde4 apps.. but make sure you a) arn't using oxygen and b) don't try to log into the desktop04:42
fluffmanMsGeek: if that's the case, then *buntu probably isn't for you on that computer04:42
shadowhywindSo i did find out the issue with knetworkmanger, its has something to do with my /etc/network/interfaces file. If i delete the file everything works04:42
MsGeekThat it?04:43
MsGeekNo ideas for kicking it over?04:43
dystopianrayshadowhywind: what issue were you having?04:43
MsGeekI have Dapper Drake running on it RIGHT NOW.04:43
MsGeekDapper Drake is happy on here.04:43
shadowhywinddystopianray knetworkmanager was stuck on manual configuation, and didn't see my wired or wireless connection04:43
MsGeekHowever, I would like to have something a tad more up-to-date.04:44
MsGeekI even used these switches at the boot line:04:44
fluffmanMsGeek: try booting the live cd in safe graphics mode04:44
MsGeekacpi=off pci=noacpi pnpbios=off vga=0x31704:44
DaSkreechMsGeek: try turning off acpi04:44
MsGeekSafe graphics mode = no joy.04:45
fluffmanhydrogen: how would I obtain kde4 apps without the kde4 desktop?04:45
MsGeekIf there is some other magick word I could add at the boot line do clue me in.04:46
hydrogenfluffman: just install the kdelibs package and the kde(games|pim|sdk|whatever) package04:46
hydrogenand then run the commands from within kde304:46
MsGeekMaybe I'll just put Debian Testing on here.04:46
fluffmanok :)04:46
MsGeek:P04:46
Dr_willis_PuppyLinux :)04:46
Dr_willis_My fave04:46
Dr_willis_well night all04:47
John117Hey guys.. hwo do i get to the restricted devices?04:47
fluffmanJohn117: K Menu > system settings > advanced tab04:47
fluffman?04:47
mohamedI just installed Kubuntu over the new unbuntu but I'm not able to show back ground or any thing04:48
mohamedzzzzzzzzzzz04:49
tomeri still think windows xp is superior...04:52
fluffman(23:52:43) tomer: i still think windows xp is superior...04:53
fluffmanto what?04:53
DaSkreechYeah Ubuntu upgrades seem much less stable04:53
Thug-lifetomer: thinking windows xp is superior is off-topic on freenode. Please view the rules at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml04:53
DaSkreechThug-life: no it's not04:53
Thug-lifeI know04:53
Thug-lifelolol04:53
DaSkreechmohamed: go again?04:53
mbosowhen I upgraded from edgy to fiesty I got a kernel panic because of the UUID label from grub. What do I need to do to get my kernel to boot using UUID?04:54
moparisthebestdoes anyone happen to know if repairing a windows XP install will wipe out grub? Im running a dual boot with 1 hd04:55
Gun_SmokeHow/where do I add startup scripts.. ie.  superkaramba04:55
dystopianraymoparisthebest: backup your mbr and restore after the repair04:55
moparisthebestany easy way to do that dystopianray ?04:55
dystopianraymoparisthebest: (assuming sda is your drive) sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr_backup count=1 bs=512b04:56
DaSkreech!uuid04:56
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)04:56
DaSkreechmboso: ^^^04:57
DaSkreech!autostart | Gun_Smoke04:57
ubotuGun_Smoke: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.04:57
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: ty04:58
mohamedi just installed kubuntu over ubuntu and it looks like it's not functioning does any body know why?04:58
Dr_willismohamed,  clarify that statement.. err.. you DID select 'kde' from the login screen?04:59
DaSkreechmohamed: What is not functioning04:59
mohamedthe backgorund and the other themes that should be there, it still give me the ubuntu interface04:59
vbgunzanyone know what this means with virtualbox: "VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv start' as root."?05:00
vbgunzI do not have the /etc/init.d/virtualbox file :(05:00
vbgunzand I did install the virtualbox-ose-modules package05:00
AmyRosevbgunz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox05:00
AmyRoseOh05:00
AmyRoseYou're using OSE?05:00
Dr_willismohamed,  you are refering to the boot/splash stuff. does the GDM/KDM login have a 'kde session' in its menu? if so and it works. then its working. ;) you can customize the splash stuff05:01
vbgunzwell, yeah, I thought I give it a try05:01
mbosoDaSkreech: The thing is, It has the right UUID volume lable. but it still kernel panics. when i switch from root=UUID=xxxxx...  to root=/dev/sda1 it works05:01
vbgunzI had virtualbox before but never the ose version05:01
mbosoDaSkreech: shouldn't it work either way?05:01
AmyRosevbgunz: Oh, I know nothing about OSE05:01
DaSkreechmboso: Well if you have a UUID in /etc/fstab then yeah05:01
mbosoDaSkreech: yeah, that's what i'm trying to figure out. doesn't make sense.05:04
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bbeck_I've noticed two problems so far with the running of kwin-composite.  The kickers is translucent, and I don't see any way to make ti opaque, and the shadows underneath the covers when dragging music to the playlist in Amarok is generally the wrong size.  Has anyone else noted these problems?05:05
jimanyone know how to run Base (Open Office Database ) , I can't find it in the menu?05:06
Dr_willisI got it in my menus.05:06
fluffmanjim: click on K Menu, then right click on "office"05:06
fluffmanthen click "edit menu"05:07
vbgunzdamn, I think I got it but have to log out :/05:07
John117Anybody want to help me see if i can get GXL up and running on this ati laptop?05:07
fluffmanthen add a new entry05:07
Dr_willisJohn117,  what video that thing got anyway?05:08
fluffmanthe command is ooffice -base %YOU05:08
John117Dr_willis thought you left.   :)   It has an Xpress 20005:08
fluffman*YOU = U05:08
fluffmandang pidgin05:08
John117dr_willis i got the restricted drivers loaded.05:08
jimsorry I don't see office when I right click kmenu. , thanks fluffman I'll try the command line05:08
Dr_willisJohn117,  err... if you had mentioned that earlier - i would of told ya not to bother. :) My laptop has x200m - and it cant handle the compiz stuff.05:09
fluffmanno jim05:09
fluffmanclick k menu05:09
John117dr_willis LOL thank you anyway man.. i appreciate it.05:09
fluffmanthen right click on the "office" listing05:09
fluffmanthen click "edit"05:09
Dr_willisJohn117,  it MIGHT work.. but thats a very low end video card. :)05:09
John117dr_willis I at least got the wobbly windows to work on Ubuntu.   ONCE.. LOL05:11
dystopianrayis it possible to adjust the increment that kmilo uses to increment/decrement the volume?05:11
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Les_CaesarsHow do I change the size of my icons on the desktop?05:11
jimfluffman: when I do that I still don't see Base ??05:13
dystopianrayLes_Caesars: system settings -> appearance -> icons05:13
DaSkreechjim: is it installed?05:13
jimI didn't uninstall it, do you know the package name for Base05:14
DaSkreechoobase05:14
DaSkreechjim: type that at the command line05:14
acrabunihay alguna española aqui05:15
DaSkreech!es05:15
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.05:15
John117dr_willis well anyway.. I got the restricted drivers to LOAD..  but i'm still told "no glx" then it falls back to Metacity and there is not metacity.. so.....05:16
jimDaSkreech, thanks, look like it isn't installed package name is openoffice.org-base05:17
Dr_willisJohn117,  you might want to research the 'glx' and 'fglrx' driver  stuff first. :)05:17
fluffmanjim: now I'm having the same trouble05:17
fluffmanI can't get it to work either05:17
fluffman:/05:17
DaSkreechjim: Yeah just wanted to test if it was installed :)05:18
John117dr_willis will do.    You're mighty helpful. :) thanks again05:18
jimI guess it doesn't install by default, downloading it now, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-base05:19
frank23logout is prevented by a program I have running (there is a popup when I try to logout) How can I force the logout without shutting that program down manualy every time?05:21
Dr_williswhat program is this?05:21
Dr_willisjust alt-ctrl-backspace :) kick X in the head.. heh05:21
frank23Dr_willis: mythfrontend I have running05:21
Dr_willisnever noticed it not letting me logout.. lets try it. :)05:22
Dr_willisbrb05:22
frank23Dr_willis: ok thanks. it runs on DISPLAY 0.1 for me I don't know if it makes a difference05:23
Insanity^Is there anyone in here who could help me with an install issue?05:24
frank23Insanity^: just ask someone might be able to help05:24
AmyRose!ask | Insanity^05:25
ubotuInsanity^: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:25
Dr_willisfrank23,  i got mythfrontend on the 'left' side monitor. :) and normal desktop here. (using twinview) it lets me logout just fine05:26
Dr_willisfrank23,  you are using 'kdm' to   log in with?05:26
Insanity^I'm installing Kubuntu 7.10 and I can boot the CD, but when I choose to start the Live CD my screen just goes blank.05:26
frank23Dr_willis: yes05:26
fluffmanInsanity^: that's normal for many computers05:27
fluffmanwait for kubuntu to finish booting05:27
fluffmanit may take up to 5 or 10 minutes05:27
fluffmanto see the progress, press ctrl+alt+f105:27
AmyRoseInsanity^: If you're really paranoid, you can do a CD defect check too05:27
Insanity^AmyRose, the md5 checks out:D05:28
Insanity^Would my video card matter?05:28
AmyRoseok05:28
Insanity^I run a newer nVidia card.05:28
fluffmanah05:28
fluffmanyou don't have the drivers yet05:28
fluffmaninstall, then it should work05:28
Insanity^That's the thing, I can't install.05:28
AmyRoseInsanity^: If you can't get the normal one working, try the Alternate CD05:28
Insanity^Every time I try to install, it just hangs at a black screen.05:28
fluffmanare you sure it's hanging?05:29
AmyRoseInsanity^: The Alternate CD does it in text mode05:29
Insanity^I'm pretty sure. I left it for about 10 minutes.05:29
fluffmanoh05:29
fluffmanpress ctrl+alt+f1 and see where it's hangin at05:29
fluffmanor if it is at all05:29
Insanity^Alright. I'm going to download the alternate first, and try that.05:30
Insanity^What's the text command to install it?05:30
AmyRoseInsanity^: Nothing05:30
Insanity^Oh. It's just a text-based version instead of a GUI?05:30
AmyRoseInsanity^: Just do the same thing as with the normal CD, but it will take you to a text mode installer05:30
AmyRoseInsanity^: The end result is the same: a KDE desktop05:31
Insanity^Oh, I realize that.05:31
AmyRoseIt just works with more video hardware05:31
fluffmanInsanity^: seriously, try ctrl + alt + f1 first to see if you computer is even trying to read the CD05:31
Insanity^I'm reasonably computer literate, Linux just stumps me.05:31
Insanity^Alright.05:31
fluffmanmake sure it's the graphics card05:31
Insanity^I'll go try that now.05:31
Insanity^Berb05:31
AmyRoseInsanity^: Yeah, it does that to everybody at first05:31
AmyRose;)05:31
Insanity^Thanks, by the way.05:31
AmyRoseyou're welcome, Insanity^05:31
Insanity^I've always loved the Linux community ;)05:31
Les_CaesarsI just installed kubuntu on an ubuntu installation. It uses metacity for the window decorations on compiz, which I like. But I don't like the color. Where do I change that?05:31
AmyRoseInsanity^: So do I. :)05:31
Insanity^In case I do get it working, what's a good Linux compatible IRC client?05:32
[[Charlie]]Kay ooh boo too.05:32
Insanity^Because I'm a bit of an IRC addict.05:32
AmyRoseInsanity^: Konversation05:32
Dr_willisuses metacity for window decoration? Hmm.. compiz replaces metacity i thouight.05:32
[[Charlie]]!offtopic | [[Charlie]]05:32
fluffmanI use pidgin05:32
fluffman<.<05:32
[[Charlie]]I use Xchat05:32
Dr_willisYou can set up emerald and emerald thenmes to change things, L(05:32
Insanity^Heh.05:32
AmyRoseInsanity^: Kubuntu comes with Konversation :)05:32
Dr_willis!compiz05:32
jimI like xchat too.05:32
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion05:32
Insanity^Alright, thanks for the advice. Be abck soon hopefully.05:32
Dr_willishas details on emerald :)05:32
VelvetHogProblem: This is a fresh install. The very first I tried to do is install the restricted nvidia driver via the handy wizard. I restart and get a black screen ("frequency out of range") instead of the graphical Kubuntu logon screen. I ran 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to set my driver back to nv and noticed that it IS detecting my graphics card and monitor correctly.05:34
VelvetHogI searched around and found a few people experiencing the same problem, but no solution05:34
fluffmanVelvetHog: do you know your refresh rate?05:35
fluffmanmaybe it's on your monitor05:35
CPrgmSwR2Does anyone know how distrowatch rates distros because PCLinuxOS is on top which seems odd?05:36
Les_CaesarsI just installed Kickoff, and it doesn't show any recent applications05:36
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: still around?05:36
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fluffmanif you do, reinstall the nvidia driver, then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to set the refresh rate manually05:36
Gun_Smokeor anyone point me in the right direction of kcontrol-startup05:36
VelvetHogDoes that matter for LCDs?05:36
fluffmanInsanity^: what's the verdict?05:37
Lam_how do i get adept to lock a package to a specifically installed version so that it doesn't attempt to check for upgrades on it?05:37
fluffmanVelvetHog: yes05:37
Les_CaesarsCPrgmSwR2: I think it's by clicks.05:37
fluffmanI had problem like that once05:37
Insanity^(fluffman): It didn't work. It didn't display anything05:37
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Les_CaesarsCPrgmSwR2: perhaps PCLinuxOSs fans are very obsessed05:37
fluffmansounds like a CD problem, Insanity^05:37
DaSkreechInsanity^: welcome to Kubuntu!05:38
frank23CPrgmSwR2: I think its just clicks at distrowatch05:38
CPrgmSwR2okay thnx05:38
DaSkreechLes_Caesars: Emerald?05:38
Insanity^fluffman, i've burned like 3 dvds. I've burned Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and the alternate version of Kubuntu05:38
Insanity^fluffman, all the md5s checked out. they all hang at the same point.05:38
LEE986321Yahoo ya...gots the restircted drivers to work yahoo yippeee yahoo yay05:38
Insanity^I think it's a video problem.05:38
fluffmandvd's?05:38
Insanity^dvds. and the CD version of Kubuntu05:38
fluffmanwhat's on the screen when it hangs?05:38
Insanity^nada.05:38
blauzahlif i'm trying to upgrade, am i supposed to still have older version lines in my apt.sources file? ie dusty or whatever?05:39
CPrgmSwR2Insanity^: did you install kubuntu through the textmode installation?05:39
Insanity^there's a cursor in the top left for about 3 seconds, then nothing. it's just black.05:39
fluffmanctrl alt f1 should show SOMETHING that isn't loading right05:39
Insanity^CPrgmSwR2, I'm trying that as soon as it finishes05:39
CPrgmSwR2Insanity^: how old is your computer?05:39
Insanity^fluffman, i think it's a display error.05:39
fluffmanInsanity^: go ahead and try the text I guess05:39
Insanity^CPrgmSwR2, my computer is less than 6 months old.05:39
CPrgmSwR2what graphics card?05:40
* LEE986321 does happy celtic joy full dance05:40
xehnidaKopete always claims my passwd is wrong despite is correct05:40
LEE986321ati x30005:40
Insanity^nvidia 8800 gts05:40
LEE986321had to go into vessa mode05:40
Insanity^I just have to wait for the text based to finish downloading.05:40
LEE986321eh vesa mode05:40
blauzahllike if i'm trying to go from feisty to gutsy?05:40
CPrgmSwR2Insanity^: its on the dvd05:40
Insanity^Oh?05:40
Insanity^I'll go try that then05:40
Insanity^Thanks05:40
DaSkreechCPrgmSwR2: page clicks05:41
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: Yeah05:41
VelvetHogOkay, it looks like 75hz is the max refresh rate (the monitor is a Viewsonic VX2025wm)05:41
AmyRoseLEE986321: Ouch, VESA is slow...05:41
fluffmanVelvetHog: try 6005:42
fluffmanthen 7505:42
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: I seem to be compleatly lost with kcontrol-autostart..05:42
Gun_SmokeI have the package...05:42
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: What are you doing with that?05:42
LEE986321i know but... its a bug in thsystem05:42
Les_Caesarsugh! this is so annoying. My desktop cube has three sides. How do I change it?05:43
LEE986321AmyRose its either taht or black screen05:43
fluffmanLes_Caesars: there's a cube setting that lets you change the horizontal desktop value from 3 to 405:44
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: Well I would like to set up superkaramba, and have it start upon login.05:44
LEE986321AmyRose thres a bug un the 64  bit system that dissalows the ati drivers in any way shape or format to run05:44
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: You have the package? A .deb?05:44
VelvetHogI'm looking through /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I see this: HorizSync 30-82, and VertRefresh 50-7505:44
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: The way I would have gDesklets launch.05:44
Les_Caesarsthanks fluffman05:44
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: Yes, and installed.05:45
RabidDog_Is KvIRC used for webcam configurations?05:45
Gun_Smokevia adpet05:45
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: And it doesn't show up on Kcontrol ?05:45
LEE986321they really need to fix it as it is with 64 bits usining the ati card05:45
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: I have been looking in the wrong place for ~50min now.. It's there.. Thanks.  I think I need some sleep.05:47
AmyRoseLEE986321: Then I'm glad I have a 32-bit CPU with NVidia05:47
LEE986321AmyRose yeah, i really had no choice in the matter this time around05:48
AmyRoseLEE986321: Oh, because AMD owns ATI?:05:48
RabidDog_Are there any other good (non command line) chat clients besides Konversation for Kbuntu?05:48
AmyRoseI mean pwns :P05:48
LEE986321AmyRose i am guessing so05:48
fluffmanbai...need 2 sleep05:49
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: Sorry thought the name might tip you off05:49
n00bcakesKVirc05:49
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: Well it should have.. But I'm new to kde.  Thanks though.05:50
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: and if you google kcontrol-autostart you get pretty much bug tracking info only..05:50
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: Sorry about the misunderstanding05:50
RabidDog_noobcakes, is that meant for use with a webcam?05:50
Gun_Smokenp05:50
LEE986321AmyRose i wonder why th e   vessa bug  and why they havnt corrected the kernal?05:52
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n00bcakesno, its an irc client05:53
LEE986321AmyRose one would think that the up date tey had that would have been taken care of05:53
n00bcakesif you want general purpose chat client w/ webcam check out Kopete05:53
CPrgmSwR2Konversation rocks as an irc client05:54
AmyRoseLEE986321: ?05:54
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RabidDog_noobcakes: Thank you!  Just wanted a normal chat client alternative to Konversation.05:54
AmyRosestevebb: Are you George or Steve? O_o05:54
stevebbneither... how did you get those?  I was trying to get a nick and did those?05:55
LEE986321AmyRose itd ben like this in fiesty as well as gutsy05:55
stevebbI've got a problem that I talk about in the kubuntuforum but no help seems to be forthcoming05:56
charlie5after upgrading yesterday, and applying a fresh set of updates this morning, adept-manager is saying that 'a new distribution version is available', and offering a button to do the 'version upgrade' ... is this normal ?05:56
AmyRosestevebb: Oh, that's nice. :P05:56
Dr_willischarlie5,  its a known bugglet.. ignore it. :)05:56
AmyRoseLEE986321: Sorry, but you're confusing me05:56
stevebbin my adept-manager manage repositories, I am not getting the buttons, rather a list of my sources.list like I have Edgy version installed05:57
stevebball versions of the software including dependencies are corrct but I am getting this behavior and can't upgrade to Gutsy unless I use the DVD05:57
LEE986321sorry 2 chats , one game and this......I have ried Ubuntu 64 bit fiesty...same thing black screen of death, then I tried gutsy with the same result05:57
charlie5Dr_willis: ah, thanks :) ... kubu is going fine after the upgrade ... best of all my usb hard drive is behaving now (not dismounting itself every 5 mins)05:57
LEE986321AmyRose then some sent me a thing aobu tthe bug.05:58
DaSkreechstevebb: install software-properties-kde05:58
stevebbwhat is that?05:58
stevebbDaSkreech: what is that?05:58
AmyRosestevebb: It's a package05:58
stevebbright.. what does it do?05:59
DaSkreechstevebb: to get the right view of repos in adept05:59
Roeyhey all06:00
Roeyso question about Goatse Gibbon06:00
* DaSkreech blinks06:01
Roey- has the xresprobe problem fixed yet?06:01
Roey*been fixed yet06:01
Les_Caesarslol @ Roey06:01
Roeyor will it be fixed in Horny Hardon?06:01
stevebbDaSkreech: ah, cool very cool... thank you... that might have done the trick... I'm installing it now...06:01
RoeyLes_Caesars:   %-)06:01
DaSkreechstevebb: Welcome06:02
stevebbDaSkreech: thanks much... that seems to have done it... now, all I have to do is just set recommended updates and then I should be able to upgrade to gutsy?06:02
DaSkreechand propsed I think06:02
DaSkreechUmm06:02
DaSkreechread the upgrade notes :)06:02
stevebbRight... thanks again...06:03
ErtainHello everyone.  I just updated to Gutsy (more or less; had to start it and stop it a couple of times) and every time I start up my "udevd" is using all of the CPU.  Any ideas as to why this is happening?06:05
dcossonanyone had any issues with external USB hard drives not automounting since updating to gutsy?06:07
LEE986321eh guys i have a strange occurence06:07
stevebbDaSkreech: I do not see a button for "Proposed updates" and I am not getting the upgrade wizard.06:08
DaSkreechstevebb:06:08
DaSkreechare you up to date /06:08
DaSkreech?06:08
LEE986321guys I downloaded xine ok..its not in the multi media but when I execute it a player pops up06:08
stevebbDaSkreech: yes...06:08
the-ermLEE986321: vertical lines?06:09
DaSkreechstevebb: and following http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade ?06:09
DaSkreechErtain: How long does it do that?06:09
LEE986321eh let me re phrase that06:09
LEE986321there is no xine in  my icon thing but I can execute it in the black box06:10
Dr_willissome times the menus dont get updated as you install things06:10
ErtainDaSkreech: Last night it did it for a long time.  Had to kill "udevd".06:10
LEE986321the-erm none taht I cna see06:10
Dr_willisthey will once ya log out/back in06:10
stevebbDaSkreech: I have that page open right now and I don't see the Proposed updates repository... also I don't understand what this page means by "Version upgrade" button?  I don'' see that either06:11
DaSkreechstevebb: try close adept and then reopen it  and fetch updates06:11
DaSkreechstevebb: If that doesn't work then alt=F2 -> adept_manager --version-upgrade06:12
stevebbDaSkreech: ok...  I think I did just that, but I'll do it again to make sure... thanks for the help06:12
LEE986321I get this  folowing line06:12
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LEE986321This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.5. (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team. AFD changed from -2 to -106:13
Gun_SmokeMan I couldn't stand Kopote...06:13
Les_Caesarshow do I configure metacity? The blue on the window decorations is REALLY annoying me06:14
Les_Caesars(using compiz)06:14
Dr_willisLes_Caesars,  use emerald and the emerald theme manager tool06:14
Dr_willisI dont think you are using 'metacity' technicially06:15
Dr_willisthe !compiz factoid gives info on setting up emerald and the emerald-theme-manager06:15
trixonHi, Im running 7.10 installed from a cd. I just installed todays updates and now Im offered a version upgrade to UBUNTU, anyone knows whats going on?06:16
Gun_Smoketrixon: Through Adapt?06:16
Dr_willistrixon,  its a bug. ignore it06:16
trixonyes06:16
DaSkreechtrixon: what's the concern?06:17
Gun_Smokeyeah got that too..06:17
DaSkreechOh Ubuntu ?06:17
DaSkreechinstead of Kubuntu ?06:17
trixonDaSkreech> the concers is that I dont want UBUNTU, and there cant be any version upgrade06:17
Gun_SmokeDaSkreech: On Kubuntu06:17
DaSkreechYeah they live on the same servers and Kubuntu is a second class citizen :)06:17
trixonOk, I'll ignore that one06:18
DaSkreech the servers can' distinguish between kubuntu and ubuntu06:18
Gun_SmokeI have a full upgrade available06:18
posingaspopulartrixon: def. an ignorable bug06:18
stevebbDaSkreech: ok... more problems... running it as my limited user means that the upgrade doesn't execute, right?  alt-F2 runs it in the context of the limited user logged on, and I should not have to log on as root to KDE to do this, no?06:18
DaSkreechJust Feisty and gutsy06:18
DaSkreechSo they just assume everyone is looking for the ubuntu announcement06:18
DaSkreech it will only give you KDE packages if you only ask for those :)06:18
Dr_willisstevebb,  just do 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'06:18
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: Bug. Sorry about that :)06:19
Gun_Smokenp06:19
stevebbDaSkreech: but if I do sudo adept_manager --version-update, I get: "cannot verify key"06:19
stevebbDr_willis: without using adept_manager?06:19
DaSkreechstevebb: ack kdesu adept_manager --version-upgrade06:19
DaSkreech!kdesu | stevebb06:19
ubotustevebb: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:19
Dr_willisstevebb,  thers dozen ways of updateing. :)06:19
stevebbthere we go... kdesu was the problem... thanks all06:21
DaSkreechDr_willis: dozens?06:21
stevebb:-)06:21
Dr_willis:)06:21
Dr_willis1000000000000000's :)06:21
Dr_willisbazillions..06:21
Dr_willisok.. i can think of like 506:21
phasiowhen i want the bootup and the ttys to have a better resolution i add "vga=788" in grub. in gutsy this doesn't seem to work. i am pretty much sure it's because of the "vga" option because when i delete it i have my consoles back, but with a horrible resolution. what do i do?06:23
judgenis there a way to get ubuntu-human like scrollbars and progressbars in kde?06:23
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DaSkreechDr_willis: maybe we should do it in Perl :)06:23
Dr_williscomal06:23
Dr_willislisp06:24
posingaspopulardo it in fortran06:24
posingaspopularaka the only real programming language06:25
DaSkreechposingaspopular: No06:25
DaSkreechnaughts and crosses is the only real programming language06:25
Dr_willis!info moo06:25
ubotuPackage moo does not exist in gutsy06:25
danielvirashey guys, how you doing?06:26
Dr_willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOO_programming_language06:26
UnluckyMikegotta question, when I try to change the volume via keyboard, it only switches between 11% and 0% but the volume isn't effected. Also the mute button won't mute. I already mapped them to the leyboard any ideas?06:26
posingaspopularDaSkreech: im sorry, i dont play d and d, i dont know what that is06:26
danielvirasI upgraded to gutsy, and compiz fusion dissappeared, anyoe has any idea why this happened?06:26
posingaspopular!hi |  danielviras06:26
ubotudanielviras: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:26
danielvirasthanks!06:26
danielviraskubuntu rules!06:26
Naxahi i have a kubuntu installation but lost grub from MBR. now I started the install cd how can I restore mz grub? the installation is on /dev/sda306:26
danielvirashehe06:26
Naxamz=my06:27
posingaspopular!grub | Naxa06:27
ubotuNaxa: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:27
phasiowhen i want the bootup and the ttys to have a better resolution i add "vga=788" in grub. in gutsy this doesn't seem to work. i am pretty much sure it's because of the "vga" option because when i delete it i have my consoles back, but with a horrible resolution. what do i do?06:27
danielvirasso... does anyone know how can I restore my compiz fusion?06:27
Naxaok thank you i will check! but actually there is no working operating system since windows installation failed06:28
judgenpolyester is great looking but i would prefer human.. is there a kde style that looks like human somewhere... ive been looking at kde-look for ages... cant find one with scróllbars and progressbars that looks like ubuntu06:28
Gun_SmokeI'm trying to add some system monitor to my desktop.. Now installing lm_sensors straight forward for kubuntu?06:29
DaSkreech!info lm_sensors06:29
ubotuPackage lm_sensors does not exist in gutsy06:29
DaSkreechGrr06:29
Gun_Smokehummm06:29
Gun_SmokeThat kills a lot doesn't it..06:29
dystopianray!info lm-sensors06:30
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB06:30
danielvirashey, I can't use compiz manager, it closes right after it opens, anyone knows why?06:30
Gun_SmokeWhat do we use in it's place?  Still waiting?06:30
DaSkreechGun_Smoke: ^^^06:30
DaSkreechI'm a dimwit06:30
Gun_Smokedystopianray: must be why I couldn't find it..  _ for - lol06:31
Gun_Smokeback to my project.. I'm getting distracted easily tonight...06:32
ErtainOkay, I've fixed the "udved" problem.  Now every time I update my database with Adept it keeps saying a new version is available, yet I'm already up to Gutsy.06:32
Insanity^Is there anyone here that helped me earlier?06:32
Dr_willisdepends on what the probloem was. :)06:34
Insanity^Well, I was in here earlier and I was having trouble installing Kubuntu 7.10. The install CD boots, but when I try to install the OS, my screen just goes black. They suggested to use a text-based install. I did that, but now when the OS loads it leaves me at the same black screen.06:34
Insanity^Could it be my video card?06:34
Dr_williswhat is your video card?06:35
Insanity^It's an nVidia 8800 gts06:35
Insanity^So, relatively new.06:35
phasiowhen i want the bootup and the ttys to have a better resolution i add "vga=788" in grub. in gutsy this doesn't seem to work. i am pretty much sure it's because of the "vga" option because when i delete it i have my consoles back, but with a horrible resolution. what do i do?06:35
Dr_willisthats odd.. I got an 8800gts and it works fine..06:35
Insanity^it just doesn't seem to be displaying.06:35
LEE986321hmm06:35
Dr_willisInsanity^,  AHA!.. you got only 1 monitor hooked up? power down. Mvoe the  cable to the OTHER monitor conector on the card.06:36
Insanity^the hard drive is doing SOMETHING.06:36
Insanity^seriously?06:36
Insanity^do you think i have it on my secondary?06:36
LEE986321well its supose to do something06:36
Dr_willisInsanity^,  i recall it defaulting to the other dvi conector for me06:36
Insanity^AWESOME.06:36
LEE986321Amarok rocks06:36
Dr_willisInsanity^,   i use 2 monitors..06:36
Insanity^willis, if this works (and you'll know in like 5minutes when I boot the OS) i'll love you forever.06:37
Dr_willis:) i remberhaving to switch them around.06:37
Insanity^i see.06:37
Insanity^i'll be back in a second then.06:37
Insanity^w00t!06:37
Dr_willisi dont think switching the cables with the power on - is a good idea.. could try it i guess ;)06:37
dystopianrayswapping monitor cables shouldn't be a problem06:38
Dr_willisdystopianray,  well ive notcied that nvida cards might not 'see' the swap if they were powered up woth no cable attatched06:38
Dr_willisat least that what seems to happen with TV out  for me.  and some other nvidia cards06:39
dystopianrayah yeah well they may have issues like that06:39
LEE986321well i have open gl graphics06:39
Dr_willisi also noticed that with JUST a tv hooked up. the nvidia cards will default to the tv out. :) which is handy06:40
Dr_willisthey try to be smart.. but sadly some times with 2 monitors it gets backwards.06:40
Dr_willisrigth now GDM shows up on the wrong (left side) monitor.. KDM shows up on the proper one. :)06:40
Dr_williskde starts up and the splash is on the left monitor.. but the desktop loads on the right side one . heh06:41
neilHello06:41
tazzhey i am trying to install kde4 in kubuntu. I followed the instructions at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php but it dosnt seem to be working. Any idea what could be wrong?06:41
Insanity^Dr_willis; it didn't work. It doesn't even work on my VGA monitor.06:44
Insanity^It's just not displaying06:44
neilI'm trying to hook up an external hard drive via USB, but it keeps coming up as Read-only (Root is the user and group, and in permissions, all it has is View permission for owner)06:44
Dr_willisInsanity^,  does the console work? 'alt-ctrl-f1' ?06:46
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LEE986321well i been playing with translucencey and havn't any errors..ewartating06:46
MorgwyrDr_willis; not at all06:46
MorgwyrDr_willis; it looks like it just doesn't display video.06:47
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  thats very very odd..06:47
Morgwyrshould i roll back to feisty and update?06:47
Morgwyrshould i try the alt disc?06:47
sub[t]rnlheyo06:47
Dr_willisThis was on a clean isntall? or a upgrade?06:47
Morgwyrclean install.06:47
sub[t]rnltty's not displaying?06:47
Morgwyrtty?06:47
sub[t]rnlcli's outside of the xserver06:47
sub[t]rnljust trying to catch up06:48
Morgwyri don't know what the acronyms mean.06:48
Dr_willisYou see the grub menu however? lets get clear on exactkt wgats going on. :) for sub[t]rnl06:48
Morgwyri see the grub06:48
Morgwyri choose linux kernel 7.10, and then it hangs.06:48
sub[t]rnli ran into this, check to see if your passing any vga= in the menu.lst06:48
sub[t]rnlif he's on gutsy's default kernel06:48
Dr_willis8800gts video card. The Live CD gave black screen.. the ALternative install worked. but boots to black screen.06:48
Morgwyrjust like it did when i was trying to install the OS (i did a text based isntall and it fixed that)06:48
Gun_SmokeCan someone tell me why I'm getting this?  ./mkdev.sh: line 30: syntax error: unexpected end of file   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41475/   I'm trying to follow this how-to.06:49
Gun_Smokehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-lm-sensors-on-Ubuntu-47205.shtml06:49
Dr_willissub[t]rnl,  yea. i was about to suggest editing the grub entry and have 'vga=ask' or use 'nofb' and disable   the framebuffer totally06:49
* sub[t]rnl nods06:49
Morgwyrheh. you'll have to expound there.06:49
sub[t]rnlfor some reason the framebuffer with the kernel is screwey06:49
Morgwyrlinux semi-newbie06:49
Dr_willisat the grub menu you can hit 'e' and edit the grub boot line/options06:49
Morgwyrshould i add something to the boot command line?06:49
DaSkreechnight all!06:50
Morgwyrnight.06:50
Dr_willisdelete the vga=whatever part and add in 'nofb'06:50
Morgwyrand that should fix it?06:50
Morgwyrwhat exactly does it do?06:50
shakeyhello?06:50
Morgwyr(sorry to ask so many questions. i'm just curious.)06:50
sub[t]rnlit will stop a framebuffer (vesab) and you'll...06:50
sub[t]rnlsee.. stuff..06:50
Dr_willissimiler to  kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=91c4c158-95c4-45cd-af01-78039aaf0218 ro quiet nosplash nofb06:50
Dr_willisnofb = No framebuffer06:50
Morgwyrso it'll be -nofb at the end?06:51
Dr_willisNo.. it will be 'nofb' :)06:51
shakeyon my other computer, i upgraded to 7.10, and then set up kde4 beta 3, it was very broke06:51
Morgwyralright06:51
Morgwyrthanks :D06:51
Morgwyrbrb06:51
shakeyhas anyone else tried the kde beta?06:51
Dr_willisonce ya can get to a terminal - you can install the nvidia-glx drivers from the terminal :)06:51
shakeyo06:52
sub[t]rnli hope the kernel team gets this sorted out before too long06:52
sub[t]rnl:/06:52
* shakey cries06:52
Dr_willisHmm it worked fine for my 8800gtsxxx06:52
shakeydang son, u got the 8800gts, u dont play around!06:52
Lam_Dr_willis: what does "quiet" do?06:52
sub[t]rnlgutsy's default kernel?06:52
Dr_willisLam_,  some sort of kernel error/info messages06:52
Lam_Dr_willis: ahh. ok thanks06:53
Dr_willison a gutsy clean install.. No hassles. ;)06:53
shakeyso no one else here has tried the kde4 beta?06:53
sub[t]rnl:) basically the same here06:53
sub[t]rnlbut you don't really get hassles when you've been in linux long enough06:53
shakeysub[t]rnl: how long is that?06:53
sub[t]rnli was using debian in 9406:53
shakeyoic...so thats 13 years...i got about 1 solid year...06:54
sub[t]rnlwell, I dropped off the map for a while06:54
shakeyo06:54
sub[t]rnlnow all of a sudden, the eye candy is mind blowing06:54
sub[t]rnland the people that were using linux for anti-gui, have a different tune06:54
* shakey loves cli06:54
* sub[t]rnl loves gui now06:54
sub[t]rnl:P06:55
shakeyyea, its cool, but i dont like it for my laptop06:55
shakeyon my pc though, its great, my 7900gt handles it like a champ06:55
tininWhy dont I get a notification about a new version avaliable? I enabled all repos yet07:00
Dr_willistinin,  try an sudo apt-get update   and sudo apt-get upgrade07:02
tininmmmm done07:02
tininWhile upgrading to Kubuntu 7.10 why do I need pre-released updates to do the upgrade?07:04
Dr_willisi never upgrade. i always do clean installs...07:05
Dr_willisso no idea.07:05
shakeyDr_willis: did u try the kde beta?07:06
tininDr_willis well Id like to maintain my config, but feisty is beeing buggy these last few weeks07:07
Dr_willisi aint going to botyher with the kde beta for a while. :)07:07
ccshenexcuse me, after upgrating to 7.10,my kaffeine Can't init new Video Driver opengl. what happened?07:07
tininmmmm too many errors for kubuntu? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuGutsyComments07:07
sub[t]rnlagreed Dr_willis07:08
sub[t]rnlccshen: whats the exact error it gives07:08
Dr_willistinin,  i always keep /home on its own HD. so updating is much easier. :)07:08
Dr_williswell clean installs are much easier. :)07:08
dystopianrayccshen: what video card do you have?07:09
dystopianrayccshen: sounds like you no longer have opengl acceleration07:09
ccshenintel 94507:09
ccsheni've installed 915resolution07:10
dystopianrayccshen: you don't need 915resolution in gutsy07:10
tininDr_willis I usually do them too, I just wanted to try to upgrade, as I haavve installed it to ome friends and I was expecting kubuntu to upgrade by itself07:10
dystopianrayccshen: set kaffeine to use the xv video output07:10
ccshenbut xv still have problems-- it seems too gray07:11
MorgwyrDr_willis unfortunately, that didn't work either. i tried nofb and even vga=ask, but neither one worked.07:11
ccshenso it could be sovled after i uninstalled the 915 resolution07:11
Morgwyrit tells me the kernel is alive, says another line about the kernel, and then goes black.07:11
FireTekhey... can anyone tell me why kubuntu takes 600mb+ memory on fresh install with nothing running and does not use any swap?07:12
dystopianrayccshen: 915resolution does nothing in gutsy07:12
dystopianrayFireTek: how much of that is disk cache?07:12
Morgwyrwhat's 915 resolution?07:12
sub[t]rnlFireTek: check to see if its buffered or cache07:12
dystopianrayMorgwyr: it changes bios video modes07:12
ccshento dystopianray: ok ,i will try it.07:12
Dr_willis915 - is for Intel video cards07:12
FireTekhow07:12
Morgwyrnah, i have an nvidia.07:12
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get install htop <-- nice program07:12
dystopianrayFireTek: pastebin the output of 'free -m'07:13
Morgwyrany ideas now Dr_willis07:13
Morgwyr?07:13
Dr_willisNope. got a spare video card? :) got an onboard video?07:13
Morgwyrshould i to ubuntu about this?07:13
Morgwyri've tried it on a vga monitor already, and my spare video card.07:13
Morgwyri have a spare nvidia 7800, which is old enough to be supporte.d07:13
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  wait,. this is affecting 2 different video cards then> what was the 2nd one?07:13
Dr_willisSame exact deal eh?07:13
Morgwyrsame exact thing.07:14
Dr_willissounding more like a motherboard/pcie issue now.07:14
FireTekhttp://pastebin.com/d2e1400ba07:14
Morgwyri have a pretty old motherboard too.07:14
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  try some other live cd's (different disrtos) see if it affects them also.07:14
Morgwyrthe motherboard is from the christmas before last.07:15
Morgwyralright.07:15
Dr_willisPuppyLinux is a nice light/fast download.07:15
Morgwyrwhat would be a comparable distro?07:15
dystopianrayFireTek: it is using 191MB of ram, with 400+MB of disk cache07:15
Morgwyri don't mind a large download.07:15
Morgwyrwell, for troubleshooting i don't even need a big one.07:15
Dr_willisPuppylinux is worth keeping in the toolbox. :)07:15
Dr_willis:)07:15
Dr_willisThe Gparted Live cd is handy also.07:15
FireTekdystopianray: why does it show almost 70007:16
FireTekhow do i clear disk cashe07:16
shakeyhow do you pastebin?07:16
shakey!pastebin07:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:16
Morgwyrwhich version should i get?07:16
Morgwyrthere are so many.07:17
acee12345!glx07:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:17
shakeyfree -m | pastebin07:17
dystopianrayFireTek: why do you want to clear your disk cache?07:17
FireTekbecause its using all my memory07:17
juanhello! i have just reinstalled kubuntu 7.10 nd i would like to know where to change the login screen07:17
FireTeki only have a gig07:17
dystopianrayFireTek: that's suppsoed to happen07:17
FireTekmy lappy is lagging like hell07:17
FireTekits a duo core07:17
FireTekgig of ram07:17
dystopianrayFireTek: that isn't anything to do with the memory usage07:18
FireTekwhy the lag07:18
dystopianrayFireTek: run 'top' and see what is using the cpu07:18
MorgwyrDr_willis; should i get the 3.01retro-k2 version?07:18
acee12345!xgl07:18
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion07:18
FireTekit shows the most anything is using is 2.5%07:19
zero1hi people, correct me if i'm wrong but, gutsy doesn't seem to require me to enter my password (for root privs) as much as feisty.  what is this new thing it's using?07:19
dystopianrayFireTek: in what way is it lagging?07:20
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  yea whatevers the latest.. 3,01  i think came out alst week07:20
shakey!gutsy07:20
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents07:20
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  its like under 100mb i think. :)07:20
MorgwyrDr_willis; what does the retro mean, though? it's the one i'm downloading.07:20
FireTekwhile scrooling webpages, opening apps ect.07:20
Dr_willisNo idea :)07:20
FireTekjust real sluggish07:21
dystopianrayFireTek: what video card do you have?07:21
FireTekbah.. ATI built in07:21
FireTeknot sure what exact model07:21
juananuone know how to change the login screen?07:21
dystopianrayFireTek: are you using the radeon or fglrx driver?07:21
Dr_willischange what on the login screen.07:21
Dr_willisthers kdm themes and a theme manager for it07:21
Dr_willis!find kdm07:21
ubotuFound: kdm, kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme07:21
FireTekwhatever it installed07:21
FireTeki have not changed anything07:22
ccsheni've uninstalled 915resolution. however, the kaffeine still doesn't support opengl, and my screen resolution can only be set to 1024x768(normally is 1280x800)07:22
FireTekkubuntu did not even recognize my sound07:22
dystopianrayccshen: 915resolution is not needed for gutsy07:22
juani would like to change the login screen completely, add anew one, Dr_willis07:22
FireTekI have to patch it whenever i install it07:22
dystopianrayccshen: use 'xv' instead of opengl for video output07:22
FireTekdystopianray: any ideas whats causing it07:24
ccshento dystopianray: but why my screen resolution can only be set to 1024x768 after removing that?it seems so blurred07:24
dystopianrayFireTek: no, sorry07:24
dystopianrayccshen: you'll need to fix your xorg.conf07:25
FireTekbah... i think Gateways suck!07:25
MorgwyrDr_willis; if puppylinux works, what then?07:25
FireTeklol07:25
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  well its some basic troubleshooting07:25
MorgwyrDr_willis; not to be a hassle, but if i get that to work, can i come back here and if you're around get some ideas?07:26
ccshento dystopianray:        SubSection "Display"07:26
ccshen                Depth           2407:26
ccshen                Modes           "1280x800"07:26
ccshen        EndSubSection07:26
ccshen 07:26
dystopianrayccshen: you are using the 'intel' driver and not 'i810' right?07:26
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  its 3 am here. I wont be here much longer07:26
MorgwyrDr_willis; alright. i'll try to figure it out, then. :D07:26
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  if it does work.. well it sounds like a kernel/motherboard oddity07:26
sub[t]rnl!kdmtheme | juan07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdmtheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:27
ccshenyes. s07:27
Morgwyri think if it does i'll try feisty and upgrade, Dr_willis.07:27
sub[t]rnljuan: sudo apt-get install kdetheme, then go to kontrol _> system adminestration -> KDM Theme to change it07:27
dystopianrayccshen: grep /var/log/Xorg.0.log for 1280x800 and pastebin it07:27
Dr_willisMorgwyr,  if Feisty worked.. and GUtsy dont.. well.. thats another interesting tip.07:28
Morgwyrwell, i've had ubuntu dapper on this before.07:28
Morgwyrnot this video card granted, but same mobo.07:29
ccshento dystopianray:(II) I810(0): PanelID returned panel resolution : 1280x80007:29
ccshen(II) I810(0): DDCModeFromDetailedTiming: 1280x800 Warning: We only handle seperate sync.07:29
ccshen(II) I810(0): Modeline "1280x800"   71.11  1280 1328 1360 1440  800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync07:29
ccshen(II) I810(0): Modeline "1280x800"   59.26  1280 1328 1360 1440  800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync07:29
ccshen(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x800" (no mode of this name)07:29
ccshen 07:29
MorgwyrDr_willis, which is why i want to try feisty.07:29
dystopianrayccshen: you are using 'i810', you should be using the 'intel' driver07:29
juansub[t]rnl thanks07:30
ccshento dystopianray: excuse me, i don't know how to do it.07:30
dystopianrayccshen: change i810 to intel in xorg.conf07:30
jonnaAnyone else having problem with kde-window-decorator crashing every now and then?07:32
FireTekdystopianray: is there different drivers for my ati card that work better07:32
dystopianrayFireTek: no idea07:32
ccshento dystopianray: you means change Driver string "i810" to "intel", that's ok?07:32
dystopianrayccshen: yes07:32
FireTekwhat is ubiquity07:33
FireTekwhat is ubiquity.. anyone know?07:35
dystopianrayFireTek: it is the unbuntu installer07:35
ashfaqHelp me with vm server for kubuntu gutsy please!07:40
ashfaqHow should I start and succeed installing xp or vista I have both the cds, as most of my programs work on windows until I have full grip of kubuntu07:41
Les_CaesarsIs there a way to make compiz use Kwin instead of metacity for my window decorator?07:41
sub[t]rnlLes_Caesars: kde doesn't use metacity07:42
Les_Caesarssub[t]rnl: but my compiz, in KDE does.07:43
ashfaqWell some one for me07:43
sub[t]rnl!windows | ashfaq07:43
ubotuashfaq: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents07:43
ashfaqDear I want to use virtual machine to be used in kubuntu ok07:44
Les_Caesarsashfaq: just so you know we're not ignoring you. I'd help you, but I don't know how to set up a virtual machine07:45
sub[t]rnlLes_Caesars: compiz uses compiz for window compositing. edit your ~/.bashrc and add export KDWM=whateveryouwantfordefault07:45
djdarkmandoes someone knows a good folder synchronizing program?07:45
sub[t]rnlKDEWM=07:46
sub[t]rnlsorry07:46
ashfaqThats the main thing, I heard about virtual machines, and you can use it in kubuntu but how and where to get, that is what I need, kubuntu as I had installed and got the feel is not a a complete windows like distro for a new bee like me for the present07:47
Les_Caesarssub[t]rnl: you don't understand. My borders. You know. Buttons that manipulate the window. How the title bar works. It uses Metacity. It's not an emerald theme. It's metacity. How do I change that?07:48
sub[t]rnlstart->settings->emerald theme manager07:48
sub[t]rnl?07:48
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get install emerald if its not there07:49
Les_CaesarsI don't want emerald. I want to change window decorators. Compiz allows you to choose window decorators. In previous flavors of Ubuntu, I've had the option to choose Kwin, metacity, and emerald.07:50
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LynoureI upgraded to gutsy before beta and now Adept is telling me there is a new version and that I should upgrade... what should I do?07:50
LEE986321eh ok how can i tell if i am 32 or 64, i got my disks mesed up07:51
sub[t]rnlemerald is the window decorator for compiz, it allows you to change themes, et cetra07:51
coteyruname -m07:51
Dr_willisLes_Caesars,  no idea on that. I just know that to change4 the kde window deco. I install emerald.07:51
coteyrLEE; uname -m07:52
Dr_willispreviou flavors of ubuntu used beryl - not the compiz-fusion.07:52
sub[t]rnlwell, kubuntu used beryl right07:52
sub[t]rnlcompiz was the gnome varient07:52
Les_CaesarsIt was still compiz in 7.04 though07:52
coteyrok so I ran update manager and my box crashed at around 80% of installing the packages. How can I recover07:52
LEE986321ok i am running i8607:52
Dr_williswell im out of here.  Night all.07:53
sub[t]rnlnight dr07:53
coteyrlee; sounds 32 to me i have amd86_6407:53
Les_Caesarssub[t]rnl: no. They are completely independent. it went like this:07:53
Les_Caesarscompiz was popular. Everyone used it.07:53
Les_CaesarsCompiz was outshined by Beryl. Everyone used that.07:53
Les_Caesarscompiz and beryl merge. Everyone uses compiz now.07:53
LEE986321ok  now if this serves me right all i need to do in this version is activate my drivers an it should restart07:53
sub[t]rnlberyl fork, remerge of the two to compiz-fusion07:53
LynoureShould I upgrade again? Or can I somehow make it realize I already upgraded?07:53
LEE986321correct with out havig to change it to vesa07:54
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Les_Caesarsok. I have a more important problem. I have no "Recent applications" in kickoff07:54
sub[t]rnlkickoff is kde4's "kicker" right?07:55
sub[t]rnlnever used it07:55
sub[t]rnlLynoure: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:55
LEE986321ok...if i get the black screen of death i am hitting the hay lol07:55
AndyMan1!compiz07:55
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion07:55
Lynouresub[t]rnl: I have the latest versions already07:56
jonnaLynoure: I have same problem as you...07:56
Les_Caesarskickoff is what SUSE uses.07:56
Les_Caesarsand Sabayon07:56
Lynourejonna: it seems at the slightly later stage the system decided it was up-to-date after all07:56
sub[t]rnlLynoure: yeah, after running that command it should satisfy adept07:56
coteyrMy box crashed 80% of the way thru of a update-manager update. Now the system will bot but not in the recent kernel the apps seem to be there but apt notifier (or whatever it is) says i have a distro update pending. when I run it it says it is complet07:56
sub[t]rnlLes_Caesars: ah, ic07:56
coteyris there anyway i can recover?07:56
Lynouresub[t]rnl: Why? Should I report a bug in Adept, because for upgrading, apt-get dist-upgrade is strictly recommended against...07:57
coteyris there a way to recover07:57
coteyrsorry about the repeat07:57
sub[t]rnlLynoure: heh07:58
sub[t]rnlLynoure: just run the command, if your currently using the most current, nothing will happen07:58
sub[t]rnlLynoure: and your adept will be fixed, if not, you'll upgrade the packages that your missing, win win07:58
jonnaI still get the version upgrade after i do a "fetch updates" in adept manager. (after running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade)07:59
Lynouresub[t]rnl: Still, sounds like a bug to me.07:59
sub[t]rnlsame07:59
sub[t]rnlits all over bug.launchpad and google07:59
ernie_dehi08:00
LynoureWe had this same thing with dapper->edgy updates, I think08:00
jonnaWell.... it seems to be up to date so i guess it doesn't matter that much.08:00
sub[t]rnldon't let a little icon drive you crazy08:01
sub[t]rnl:P08:01
jonna:)08:01
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LEE986321well it worked lol08:04
LEE986321but my monitor has an issue lol08:05
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DHQhow do i check my kubuntu version in linux08:16
sub[t]rnlDHQ: lsb_release -a08:16
DHQsub[t]rnl, what is this LSB Version:    core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-noarch:core-2.0-ia32:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.1-ia3208:18
sub[t]rnlnot sure what that is08:19
robotphoodanyone know how i can bind my mouse back/forward buttons to work in konqueror/dolphin08:19
DHQdolphin sux :( i love my konqueror as default08:20
robotphoodi prefer dolphin :P08:20
DHQrobotphood, y08:20
ernie_deanyone an idea, why my dist-upgrade dies silently after the download?08:20
DHQrobotphood, what so good in it08:20
robotphoodlight and does everything i need08:20
DHQrobotphood, you can open new tabs08:20
robotphoodwhat do you mean08:21
DHQwell in dolphine can you open new tabs08:21
lee_eh how do i enable comsite?08:21
jigersomone help me. my existing partion is not getting recognized and not loading though it exists08:21
lee_eh composite?08:21
jigerit is containing /usr08:22
mulanderhi all, I recently upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 (according to the method listed on kubuntu.org). Now adept_notifier poped up with a regular update and after it finished a button labeled 'version upgrade' appeared next to the 'finish' button.08:22
lee_?08:22
jigerI have just upgraded from feisty -> gusty08:22
sub[t]rnl!fstab | jiger08:22
ubotujiger: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions08:22
mulandercan anyone tell me why I have this button active? (I already upgraded :> right?)08:22
sub[t]rnlmulander: its a bug08:23
jigerubotu:/usr with its original(as per feisty) UUID is listed but not lodaing08:23
lee_yeah it seems to be the Bug08:23
DHQmulander, even i have the same thing guess its a bug08:23
sub[t]rnlmulander: if sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn nothing, your using the most current version08:23
mulanderok thanks all, just wanted to be sure :)08:23
lee_any how..how do i engage composite?08:24
DHQwhen i lock my desktop and resume it i doesnt resume it just stays there without any activity08:24
jigeranyone have ne idea how to force recognition of a partion?08:24
lee_hmm sounds dangerouse to me08:24
lee_erg i am headin to bead, iam dead dog tired08:25
sub[t]rnlnight lee08:25
jigerthe partion exists. it is clean too but not getting loaded on boot08:25
jigerno /dev/sda? handle is being created08:25
lee_sub[t]rnl night..oh befor i hit the hay.. its all working great save for needing to activate composite08:26
jigerthough the partition is fine08:26
lee_where do i go?08:26
sub[t]rnlwhat kind of compositing you looking for? kwin composits08:26
sub[t]rnlor are you talkinag about compiz-fusion08:26
lee_sub[t]rnl hmm not sure what k is asking for08:27
lee_just a sec Ill crash  it brb08:27
lee_the composite manager crashed twice with in a minute and is there for dissabled...the othr reads.. you muset enable compoisite08:30
lee_oops I hit the ok08:30
lee_Iam guessing wht ever one comes with  KDE08:30
tomeranyone know why compiz causes the window frame to disappear08:31
Cugeltomer: if you mean the titlebar, then yes.08:32
tomerCugel: yes that is what i mean. how do i fix that?08:32
CugelYou need to add one line to xorg.conf, about enabling some visuals. A search on 'titlebars disappear compiz' shows you lots of answers.08:33
Cugelsudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24   --- from a terminal. That does the trick.08:34
ubuntu__Does anyone know why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might not recognize my GeForce 7600 GS video card?  discover sees it.08:43
ubuntu__Would it make any differnce if I am running off the livecd?08:44
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sJimHello!08:50
xeviousthose kde4 beta 3 packages are borked. should probably remove that from the topic08:51
xeviousand kubuntu.com08:51
* xevious goes to bed08:51
alexey__Q: I want to install 7.10, but I only have 7.04 (DVD). Is it possible to install 7.04 and update to 7.10?08:53
dystopianrayalexey__: yes, but it's faster and easier to just download 7.1008:57
ubuntu__alexey__: yes, there should be instructions on upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 on the release page08:57
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MorgwyrKubuntu boots to a black screen after alt install; I can load PuppyLinux on it just fine. Anyone know of a fix?09:00
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Omarianafter a kernel update, ubuntu adds 2 entries to the boot menu. i know how to remove the menus but i wanted to know if there is a way to actually remove the older kernel.09:03
pagOmarian, sudo apt-get remove $package  works for kernels too09:03
Omarianso if i wanted to remove 2.6.20.15 i would do sudo ap-get remove kernel...09:04
Omarianwhat is the actual package name09:04
paglinux-image-2.6.20-15-generic  probably09:05
Omarianoh ok09:05
Omarianthat makes sense09:05
Omarianare there any other packages i need to remove?09:06
pagnot as far as I know09:06
OmarianOK09:06
obiwan_hi @ all09:06
Omariani am also trying to access some windows shares over the lan but smb is not installed and i cannot install it from system settings09:07
Omarianwhere do i begin?09:07
pag!samba | Omarian09:07
ubotuOmarian: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:07
Omarianthanks i will check those out09:08
obiwan_@Omarian isn' t i t already on board with your Ubuntu?09:08
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Omarianno its not09:09
Omariani just ran apt-get and it was installed09:10
ubuntu__Omarian: the client side is.09:10
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Omarianoh really>09:10
Omarian?09:10
obiwan_i thogt so09:10
obiwan_thougt09:10
Omarianhow do i activate it to browse windows shares09:10
ubuntu__You should be able to browse your local network.09:10
obiwan_wan x window do you use?09:11
obiwan_I mean what type of wm do you use09:11
ubuntu__I just open konqueror, and click on "Network Folders" the "Samba Shares"09:12
ubuntu__the -> then09:12
obiwan_@ ubuntu I used the same way09:12
obiwan_my problem is the rights management09:13
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ThempletonThis is nice. How do I statically assign a specific device-name to a USB resource as a keystick or an ext. HD?09:14
obiwan_I had XP running before and all my data are saved on a external disk09:14
neptunepinkroflmao; <alt-f2>yes09:14
neptunepinkThey have no, too! :D09:15
obiwan_my problem is I can read it but I can't write on it.09:15
ubuntu__obiwan_: are you mounting the disk?  Or are you accessing it over a network?09:16
Omariani am trying to mount a windows share and it is telling me that the mount point does not exist09:16
Omarianit is a network share09:16
ubuntu__Omarian: I assume that the rights issue is on the Windows box.09:17
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obiwan_anybody here knowing the worldbook hard disk form Western Digital?09:18
Omarianno the issue was not on the windows box. i just fixed it by going to network and add network folder09:19
Omarianits working09:19
obiwan_@ubuntu access is only possibly through network09:19
obiwan_it has only an rj45 attach09:19
ubuntu__I'm not certain I understand.  What did you do differently?09:20
obiwan_@ ubuntu me or omarian?09:20
MinnozzMy wireless network randomly fails, I don't know what's wrong with it. I don't use a networkmanager but placed my settings in /etc/network/interfaces . There is an error when I ifup wlan0, but it Just Works. Anybody knows why it fails?09:20
obiwan_ah omarian09:21
Omariankaffeine is not playing my avi files09:22
Omarianshould i try a different program09:22
Omarian?09:22
ThempletonThis is nice. How do I statically assign a specific device-name to a USB resource as a keystick or an ext. HD?09:22
nicolai_Omarian: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras09:22
obiwan_@ omarian: avi files are like a container perhaps you have not installed the needed codec?09:23
Omariani believe its the xvid one09:23
vltHello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?09:24
nicolai_!restrictedformats | Omarian09:24
ubotuOmarian: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:24
Omarianthank you09:25
nicolai_No problem :)09:25
obiwan_how about my problem whith the rights management ?09:26
tottHey,, got a prob, anyone got time?09:26
vbgunzanyone know why I have no tty 1 through 6? I only have a really fast blinking underscore :/09:26
obiwan_western digital has an own software for windows but none for linux-pc's09:27
ThempletonHello, how to symlink to a USB keystick? Every time I insert the stick it is assigned to a different dev name depending on what other USB resources are present. Thanks09:28
obiwan_I tryed askin the support but they even did not aswer09:29
obiwan_answer09:29
Omarianthis is taking a while09:29
Omarianis there a program i can install that will play avi files?09:29
Omariani don't want to sift through codecs and libraries etc09:30
Omariannot right now at least09:30
sJimmplayer09:30
obiwan_@omarian you'll need the xvid codec09:30
sJimmplayer has codecs fir windows avi09:30
Omarianoh really? mplayer?09:32
MinnozzWell, I don't know if anybody saw what I said, but my internet failed again09:32
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sJimI didn't install anything else and all avis work fine09:32
Minnozz<Minnozz> My wireless network randomly fails, I don't know what's wrong with it. I don't use a networkmanager but placed my settings in /etc/network/interfaces . There is an error when I ifup wlan0, but it Just Works. Anybody knows why it fails?09:32
tdj_maybe you have disabled broadcasting ?09:34
tdj_on the router09:34
MinnozzI don't know09:34
Minnozzlets see09:34
tdj_if you dont know    probally you didnt09:35
MinnozzWhen it failed, there was an endless row of these errors in /var/log/syslog: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=rawpaste&p=120209:35
Minnozzanybody knows what those errors mean? ^09:36
obiwan_I've got a programm that runs only on windows xp systems how can I get it on ubuntu?09:37
tdj_if you google on those errors09:37
obiwan_I mean running on ubuntu09:37
tdj_you see that there are more with same problem09:37
emonkey-fobiwan_, which program?09:37
Thempletonobiwan_:the answer is Wine09:37
Omariani installed mplayer and codecs and am trying to play an avi file from the network but it is trying to copy it locally first. why does it not stream it?09:38
sJimyou need plugin for stream09:39
Omarianis it gstreamer?09:39
sJimthere is firefox plugin for mplayer09:39
obiwan_@ emonkey I#ve got an worldbook external harddisk from western digital an have no problem to access all my files but I can't write on it cause of the rights management09:39
sJimor mplayer plugin for firefox...09:39
obiwan_the original wd software09:39
Omarianplugin to stream avi files in firefox??09:40
emonkey-fobiwan_, I've got the same external HD but no problem with read and write on it.09:40
emonkey-foh ok, I didnt use any wd program before maybe I've not installed that09:41
Omariani don't understand09:41
obiwan_emonkey how do you access it ?09:41
Minnozztdj_: should I disable any programs when using /etc/network/interfaces?09:41
obiwan_my problem is perhaps that I did it before09:41
tdj_sorry  i dont know09:41
emonkey-fobiwan_, I plug it in and then a wizard is appearing which opens for me an konqueror or dolphin file manager09:41
emonkey-fobiwan_, yes could be09:42
sJimOmarian: are you trying to watch stream divx with browser or .avi-files from your hard drive09:42
obiwan_but it seems you have an other version cause mine is only accessible about network (without usb)09:43
Thempleton<Thempleton> Hello, how to symlink to a USB keystick or ext. HD? Every time I insert the stick or ext. HD it is assigned to a different dev name depending on what other USB resources are present. Thanks!09:43
Omariansjim: what i am trying to do is play an avi file over the network in mplayer but it will not stream it09:43
emonkey-fobiwan_, ah yes .... you're right.09:43
Omariani would prefer to not watch in the browser09:43
Omarianif i have a choice09:43
obiwan_@ templeton I think your problem is the automatically mount of your usb devices09:44
tdj_109:44
Omariangeez why is this so complicated09:45
emonkey-fobiwan_, maybe you'll find an answer here: http://www.uboontu.com/results.htm?cx=002072379199720138921%3A9m-bgfzutzq&cof=FORID%3A10&q=western+digital+external+hard+disk+network&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search#111509:45
obiwan_in earlier times we needed to mont all manually and so i had scripts that assined everytime to the same folder09:45
obiwan_that was for Templeton09:46
obiwan_emonkey thx09:46
Omarianany suggestions?09:48
Thempletonobiwan_, in that scripts do you have to recognize what ext HD is new attached to USB... how to recognize this?09:48
sJimwhats the error message?09:49
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ashfaqJust downloaded vmware server from the site, now help me get installed for use, I tried the means by logic, but I failed to see the programe listed09:55
vbgunzanyone know why I cannot access terminals (tty) 1 through 6, I see only a blinking underscore/cursor :(09:55
ashfaqI have kubuntu gutsy latest installed!09:56
dystopianrayis anyone else finding that their nvidia drivers don't work?09:57
dystopianraythe kernel module cannot be found and X won't start?09:57
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ashfaqNo one to help with vmware installation pl.10:00
afd_hi! I'm having problems with the audio control keys on the keyboard, to control the sound volume10:01
afd_the keys (sort of) work: there's a small popup that appears on the screen and it gets toggled to maximum 11% volume if I press the increase volume key10:02
afd_but it has no effect on the volume10:02
afd_using kmix (and the systray applet), I can change, for real, the volume10:02
afd_I've set in kmix the global shortcuts, but they seem to be overridden by this other control that doesn't work10:02
sJimHow can I install multimedia buttons on Toshiba laptop?10:03
afd_any ideas what to do? (or should I try to explain better my problems?)10:03
aspirin_on_kubunhi kubuntu users :-)10:03
Franzmaxhello.  How can I mount a partition of my existing HD while running kubuntu from a live CD?10:05
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tsdgeosyesd10:05
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obiwan_@templeton I had my first experiences whith linux 9 years ago but the syntax is surely the same as at this times  you use mount than the type of disk and an mountpoint and umount to unmount your device10:06
Thempletonobiwan_, had a system crash with Gutsy. Again, how to recognise which USBstick is automounted by script if devicename changes?10:06
obiwan_my idea was set off the automatically mount and do it manually10:07
obiwan_the other side is you have to mount all manually then10:08
obiwan_even your cd or dvd10:08
ThempletonOK, it is fairly obvious but not of practical use if I've many USB devices like HDs and sticks.10:08
FranzmaxHow can I mount and use a HD when running kubuntu live CD?10:10
Minnozzanybody knows how to fix these errors? I get them when my network fails (they're in /var/log/syslog) and it's impossible to get my network to work again without rebooting. http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=rawpaste&p=120210:11
Thempletonobiwan_, it seems I've to search by script (or better a demon) for a marker file to distinguish the specific USBstick and read in mtab where it is mounted.10:13
ThempletonFranzmax, you have to do exactly as you do in a HD installation, using mount.10:15
FranzmaxThempleton: means i have to modify fstab and mtab first?10:15
Thonolanhello there10:18
obiwan_@ thempleton, thats a nice idea too  you can assign a name to your device to search for or you use the internal serial number10:18
obiwan_anyone here running a smartphone on ubuntu10:19
ThempletonFranzmax, no, fstab is red if the system doesn't know how to mount a device and mtab says what device is already mounted. You need to  <mount /dev/"devicename" /"mountdir">10:19
Thonolancan i repair my apt-get after a broken update trial to 7.10 ?  my system still running on 7.04 but adept ,apt-get wont work10:19
Thempletonobiwan_:ok, thanks, I'll try this way.10:20
FranzmaxThempleton: do i have to create a new dir in (say) /media like /media/hda1 ?10:21
obiwan_franzmax it will be helpful to distinguish your devices10:21
obiwan_perhaps you give a name like external harddisk110:22
Thonolanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41486/10:23
lars_hallo habe da eine Frage wie man ein rpm installiert10:23
Thonolanthat i get if i try to apt-get -f install10:23
Thonolanlars_: deutsch auf #kubuntu-de10:24
ThempletonFranzmax, yes this is a good idea, use a more mnemonic dirname as obiwan_ suggests.10:24
lars_also rpm habe ich installiert10:25
lars_ok10:25
Franzmaxok, thanks Thempleton and obiwan_10:26
Thonolannobody any idea for me ?10:26
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obiwan_Thonolan perhaps you could try it about your software packages10:27
Thonolanobiwan_: i cant start adept10:28
obiwan_do you use a wm?10:28
Thonolanobiwan_: i use kde10:28
Thonolanobiwan_: you mean that ?10:29
Thonolanwith wm ?10:29
obiwan_yes10:29
obiwan_window manager10:29
Thonolanobiwan_i use kde10:29
Thonolani was hopefully there is an option to clean that10:30
obiwan_do you have systemtools on it ?10:30
seraphhi, i don't want some partitions (recovery partitions) to be shown in konqueror/dolphin, is there a way to hide them?10:31
Thonolanobiwan_: which kind of tools  ?10:31
Thonolana special program ?10:31
Thonolanobiwan_: or the point: system preferences?10:33
emonkey-fseraph, Maybe it's possible through /etc/fstab, but I've never done it.10:33
obiwan_I've got a german version of Gnome running an there is not only the adept manager but I've got also a package manager10:33
emonkey-fobiwan_, you mean synpatic pakcage manager?10:34
emonkey-fI mean Synaptic10:34
Thonolanobiwan i have try synaptic also10:34
Thonolanthat is the packet manager for gnome10:35
Thonolansame problem10:35
Oakboxmorning all, i was wondering. is there a way to get kubuntu to only open some of the applications back from your session when you reboot but not others?10:37
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Jucatoyou can either 1. quit them before logging out or 2. exclude them from being started in System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Session Manager (there's an entry field there to list app names) or 3. Manually autostart those that you want and start with a blank sessions10:38
Jucato!autostart | Oakbox10:39
ubotuOakbox: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.10:39
obiwan_Thonolan sorry that was actually my last idea10:39
Thonolanobiwan_: np thanks for your patience and help10:39
obiwan_np10:39
obiwan_Thonolan, do you have an install dvd?10:40
Thonolanobiwan_: i have yesterday dl the 7.10  and i have a alternate dvd 7.1010:40
obiwan_why dont you try start it perhaps it has something like a repair funktion10:41
Thonolanobiwan_: i mean an alternate 7.0410:41
Thonolanobiwan_: that i will try yes thanks for hint10:42
obiwan_I meant repair option10:43
obiwan_but you understood10:43
Thonolanobiwan_: yes10:44
OakboxJucato: thank you :)10:44
PacShadyAnyone home?10:48
Thonolanobiwan_: i have it ! i have delete my sources list and build a new clean now adept running10:48
PacShadyIĺl take that as a yes10:48
Thonolanpheew10:48
ThonolanPacShady: ^^10:48
PacShadyGahh, now I realise I need to change my keyboard layout too10:49
PacShadyWhile Iḿ doing so, could someone be able to tell me how to restore the login screen to look how it did in Feisty? ie. no user list?10:49
PacShadyI did it with two computers easy, now I can find a single reference to it on the net at all10:50
metalspawnHey can any1 help me i am using kubuntu 7.10 and i have the error hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options-refused uid 1000. i got ntfs-config but you need 2 run as root (and i don;t know how) PLease HELP :D10:50
PacShadyAnyone at all? Any takers?10:51
metalspawnAnd also i downloaded nvidia drivers and same prob need to run as root please help :D ?10:51
PacShadyI can't remember how to do it :'(10:52
metalspawnCome on :D no1 able to help me quickly ?10:53
sJimmetalspawn: you need to mount your drive10:53
pagPacShady, edit /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings - make the second line read: THEME="/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu-no-userlist"10:53
metalspawnyes :D trying10:53
sJimI googled a script which did it all10:53
PacShadyThank you :) not the way I did it previously, but if it works it works!10:53
sJimpaste your error to google10:53
metalspawnok10:53
Minnozzwhy can't I remove knetworkmanager?10:53
metalspawnlet me try10:53
sJimhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions10:54
krautmoin10:54
xanax`is there somewhere a tutorial that explains how to launch the 7.10 Desktop CD - step by step (with lots of screenshots) ?10:54
xanax`when I reboot on the CD, I can see a menu, I choose the top first item (start or install) but the next screen I get is a prompt that tells me to type HELP ...10:56
metalspawnsJim: ok lol i am totally new to this sorry i have the site and it says type the following lines blah blah. Should i type it in "Run Command" ?10:57
Thonolanmoin  kraut10:58
piesposalve10:59
sJimmetalspawn: type "konsole" in run command10:59
piespoavrei un problemino con samba su kubuntu10:59
metalspawnsJim:  ok thanks figuring it out :D will see now11:00
piespoutilizzando la finestrella di host deny dove avevo provato ad inserire * non accedo piu' alle cartelle anche se tolgo * e metto l'ip della macchina da collegare su host allow11:01
obiwan_@ piespo credo che qui parlino tutti solamente inglese11:02
obiwan_prova #kubuntu-it11:02
metalspawnsJim:  ok thanks i can acces it but i can't write any files to it ? that normal ?11:02
sJimmetalspawn: yea, go to system setting, then hit the advanced tab11:04
sJimthere Disk & filesystem11:04
piespograzie obiwan11:04
obiwan_di niente11:04
metalspawnsJim:  y\k11:05
metalspawnsJim: K11:05
metalspawnsJim: k cool have it11:05
metalspawnlet me t3est11:05
Ajzois there any program allow u to convert AVI movies to DVD format ? :}11:05
Minnozzhow come Aiccu doesn't start automagically?11:06
metalspawnsJim: Thanks i ave it . no just one more prob can any1 help me install nvidia drivers11:06
metalspawnOr run my session as root11:06
metalspawnThe same thinkg11:06
Minnozzanybody uses Aiccu here?11:07
metalspawnThe setup says i require root acces11:07
obiwan_Hi Tonio_11:10
Tonio_hi obiwan_ :)11:10
xenolhow can i use kbfx plz?11:10
obiwan_is that your real name?11:10
pagxenol, add it to a panel and enjoy11:11
pagxenol, of course you have to have it installed first ;)11:11
obiwan_@ tonio_ it's mine :)11:12
piespoare there some persone that know samba? (sorry for my english)11:12
mulanderhow to run the GUI front-end for managing /etc/apt/sources.list in 7.0411:12
mulander?11:12
thomas_mulander: use adept_manager11:13
Tonio_obiwan_: what's yours ?11:13
obiwan_@piespo a client is already installed on ubuntu why?11:13
mulanderI'm on the phone with my gf, and I try to guide her to this menu11:13
thomas_mulander: but best way is still doing it by hand ;-), thats what I prefer11:13
obiwan_Your nick is my realname11:14
mulanderthomas_: yeah, try to tell sources entries on the phone :>11:14
Tonio_obiwan_: almost my real name too :)11:14
tp123hi all11:14
pagobiwan_, including underscore? ;P11:14
thomas_mulander: ask her to send her sources.list file to you, modify it for her and send it back ;-)11:14
skazkinhelo all11:14
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pag!hi11:14
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:14
obiwan_you don't meet everyday one11:15
tp123Who speak Russia ))11:15
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pag!ru | tp12311:15
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thomas_mulander: or tell her to go here: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/11:15
ubotutp123: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke11:15
obiwan_no without underscore ;)11:15
skazkinя)11:15
tp123sps11:15
tp123__11:15
tp1230)11:15
piespoI have some problem with perission of host in samba11:16
rand_acswhen firefox32 updates, using it's automatic updater, how do you get it to load all the plugins again? I can see them there, but the browser doesn't pick it up11:17
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obiwan_bye @ all11:19
hilmarHey does any one know how to fix my sound in kubuntu11:21
hilmar?11:21
agresorApache module mod_suexec11:21
agresorhow to install this ?11:21
agresorplease ?11:21
rohanis there some kde program i can use to convert audio files from one format to the other ?11:22
paghilmar, well.. with the information you're giving it's hard to say anything but "unmute it" or "plug the wire"11:22
rohansome program which is preferably in the ubuntu/debian repo11:22
pag!info soundkonverter | rohan11:22
uboturohan: soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1888 kB11:22
agresorApache module mod_suexec ?11:23
agresoranyone know something about that ?11:23
pag!repeat | agresor11:23
ubotuagresor: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience11:23
spirooBut why have they not been able to fix all bugs yet in kubuntu :'(11:24
spirooKopete is part of KDE I know, but it does not work at all. I just installed a clean copy of the final version, and got a few errors already11:25
pagspiroo, fix for the kopete is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/2911:26
lorenzo_Ddd11:26
spirooAnd it always says, version upgrade in Adept XD11:26
pagspiroo, iirc that's also a well-known bug11:27
spirooBut why has it not been fixed in final version? :P11:27
momalanyone know where i can report 2 problems with dolphin ?... im pretty sure they would be considered a bug or at least a big problem.11:28
hilmaroki how did you say I coul fic my sound ?11:28
ScorpKing!find esd11:28
ubotuFound: gstreamer0.10-esd, kdesdk-dbg, kdesdk-doc-html, kdesdk-scripts, libesd-alsa0 (and 15 others)11:28
spirooAnyway, I wonder how to change from Konqueror to Firefox. I mean, I will when I click on links/urls everywhere in Kubuntu I want it to be opening in Firefox not Konqueror.11:28
pagspiroo, kcontrol -> default apps11:29
ScorpKingi get /usr/bin/esd not found. what packages is missing?11:29
pagScorpKing, esound11:30
ScorpKingmomal: look around on launchpad11:30
ScorpKingpag: ty11:30
pagScorpKing, (or pulseaudio-esound-compat )11:30
ScorpKing:)11:30
spirooCould someone write or send me a link for all known bugs and solutions?11:31
waylandbill!bug11:31
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots11:31
rohanpag: that was wonderful, thanks11:31
pagnp :)11:31
ksivaji!cervisia11:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cervisia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:32
spiroopaq: Im sorry to say, but that patch for Kopete you send me does not work11:32
WaltzingAlongkopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit11:32
pag!doesntwork | spiroo11:32
chriswilliamskicker doesn't load on startup, how do I fix this?11:32
ubotuspiroo: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.11:32
waylandbill!info cervisia11:32
ubotucervisia: a graphical CVS front end for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 740 kB, installed size 2016 kB11:32
spiroopaq: Haha okay sorry, Uhm when I am trying to login it just crashes and send me a crash message.11:33
waylandbillchriswilliams: load kicker using alt-f2 and then log out and log back in. It should be stored in the session and loaded next time.11:33
pagspiroo, install that pach and relogin in kde11:33
chriswilliamswaylandbill, I have session's turned off11:34
spiroopaq: okay, but I have already done that11:34
chriswilliamsis there a way to fix it without turning it on?11:34
spiroopaq: Or do you mean logout from xsession?11:34
pagspiroo, yup.11:34
spiroookay Iĺl that11:35
waylandbillchriswilliams: add it to Autostart11:38
waylandbill!autostart11:38
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.11:38
chriswilliamswaylandbill, ok thanks11:38
juliebjr11:40
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spiroopaq: Thanks, the patch worked. Hope I have not have to deal with more problems now :D11:41
pagspiroo, I hope that too :)11:42
rolandwhy can't i hear a thing since i have changed from Ubuntu to Kubuntu???11:43
Pasarmy usb devices dont seems to work.. whenever i connect a stick/mouse/cam simply nothing happens.. the device will get electricity but i cant find it anywhere on my system (feisty)11:43
kristinahi, I just installed gutsy. somehow adept locked up (it says another process is using it) tryed pkill adept/aptitude/apt-get with no luck, any ideas?11:44
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rolandKristina: sudo dpkg --configure -a11:44
pag!aptfix | kristina11:44
ubotukristina: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:44
rolandsome Ideas to my soundproblem?11:45
rolandmy Card is a SB Audigy111:45
ardchoille!sound | roland11:45
uboturoland: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:45
kristina pag, roland: tnx, worked.11:45
Pasarwhatabout my usb problem? noone else seems to have it :-/11:46
pagPasar, you could try one thing, though I don't know will it work. add " usb-hadoff " to kernel boot options11:46
pagusb-handoff that is :)11:47
juliebonjour es ce ke kelkun peux m aider svp11:47
kaminixI've installed both mediubuntu's and mplayer's codec pack, but there are still some DivX 5 files I can't play. What else is there to install?11:47
pag!fr | julie11:47
ubotujulie: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:47
Pasaraaah, that may work, i installed restricted drivers. but where do i change these boot options?11:47
kristinaone last question: why does konversation quit completely and not end up in the right lower corner (sorry I don't know what that's called) when clicking on x?11:47
pagkristina, does it have tray icon enabled in settings?11:48
flubHi.11:48
pagPasar, alt+f2 -> " kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst "11:48
flubI'm trying to isntall 7.10 from the CD, but the installing thing hangs right at the start in step 3, during "Scanning disks".11:48
ardchoillekristina: Enable the system tray item: Behavior  > General11:48
flubCould anyone help me?11:48
pagPasar, find al line that says (something like) " # defoptions=quiet splash "11:49
ardchoillekristina: fwiw, that is known as the "tray" or "notification area"11:50
Pasarfound it11:50
Pasarshall i add to that line?11:50
ardchoillepag: I believe he's also going to need to edit his kernel line for the current kernel.11:51
pagPasar, yup.11:51
pagardchoille, " sudo update-grub " will take care of that ;)11:51
kristinaardchoille: cool thanks11:51
ardchoillepag: Ah, yes it will11:51
kristinabye bye11:51
Pasarso that's what im gonna do next? ;)11:52
flubAnyone?11:52
titanix88hey what about gutsy kubuntu?11:52
titanix88hey what about gutsy kubuntu?11:52
pagPasar, yup. save the file, enter that command and (if there will be no errors) boot the computer11:52
Pasaryeah, all fine. im gonna try now! thanx a lot!11:52
ardchoilletitanix88: What about it?11:53
titanix88i mean ur experience...:o11:53
titanix88i mean ur experience...:o11:53
ardchoilletitanix88: Works good here except that I have no tty 1-611:54
Smorghi11:54
ardchoille!hi | Smorg11:54
ubotuSmorg: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:54
Smorg:-)11:54
* Smorg is upgrading to gusty atm11:55
titanix88no ctrl+f1-6 tty?11:55
* Smorg is excited!11:55
ardchoilletitanix88: yes, but I have a feeling it will be fixed soon.11:55
spirooDoes anybody know how to load a module in apache2?11:55
gameplayerhello11:55
spirooI wanna load the mod_rewrite11:55
gameplayerspiroo: a2enmod ?11:55
spirooa2enmod, where?11:56
ardchoillespiroo: Are you sure it's not already loaded?11:56
spirooyes11:56
Smorghopefully it goes as smoothly as edgy -> feisty11:56
spirooHow do I do then?11:57
gameplayerif the mod is installed, you can load it by typing sudo a2enmod <module_name>11:57
gameplayerthen, restart apache11:58
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hilmarhey how do i  Innstall VLC11:58
hilmarÞ11:58
hilmar?11:59
unclephreakdoes anyone in here know anything about video encoding?11:59
paghilmar, " sudo apt-get install vlc "11:59
spiroookay thanks gameplayer. One more thing, my .htaccess file does not load11:59
gameplayermmmhhh...12:00
spirooIt should point to /var/www/www/default.php inside .htaccess, but it does not work12:00
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ardchoillespiroo: Is that path correct? (www x 2)12:02
hilmaroki when I  do sudu apt-get install vllc12:02
hilmarthis comes12:02
hilmarhilmar@hilmar-c52521ee:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc12:02
hilmarE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:02
hilmarE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:02
hilmarhilmar@hilmar-c52521ee:~$12:02
ardchoillehilmar: close adept?12:03
spirooShould I look inside sites-enabled or sites-available? Yes the path is correct. I have solved this problem before, but I never know how I fix it XD12:03
martin_pag: it didnt change much.. my usb mouse is reacting (but too slow to be reasonably used, and thats probably because i had it plugged on startup this time) - my stick is blinking all through the booting but it doesnt show up anywhere :(12:04
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pagmartin_, hmm.. dunno then. sorry.12:05
gameplayeri've got a problem with adept on a fresh reinstall of gutsy, with the home dir kept from my feisty install12:05
hilmarhey does  any one know how to  run XP while using Linux , can I do  it with Kubuntu12:05
ardchoillemartin_: Anything in dmesg?12:05
xenoli got problem plazing dvd on gutsy i am missing libdvdcss2 can someone tell where from can i get ti plz?12:05
ardchoille!medibuntu | xenol12:06
ubotuxenol: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org12:06
xenolardchoille: will feisty libdvdcss2 work on gutsy too?12:06
traeneDoes someone know the current legal state of libdvdcss?12:06
traene(in Germany)12:07
martin_ardchoille: yeah, quite so...12:07
ardchoillexenol: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/12:07
martin_ardchoille: it did detect a mass storage device somewhere along the way12:08
martin_archoille: but it says sth like [   25.012000] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning12:08
ardchoillexenol: To answer your question, yes, libdvdcss2 will work on gutsy12:08
mooperheh, whats the best way to play dvd's on feisty?12:08
ardchoille!dvd12:08
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs12:08
feierfoxhi12:08
xenolardchoille: ty12:09
ardchoilleyw12:09
tharunHi, why am I getting this error when trying to run the version upgrade *Gutsy beta --> Final*: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)12:09
hilmarcan't you  run windows XP while using Kubuntu ? :S12:09
feierfoxi want to make a dist-upgrade with the adept manager ... everything works, but then i get an error: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found12:09
mooperardchoille: I already have that installed (libdvdcss2) but vlc wont play DVD's ! :(12:09
martin_ardchoille: at some point it even says a storage device was registered.. but its nowhere in kde-info or /media/12:09
feierfoxwhat can i do?12:09
feierfoxediting something in my sourcelist?12:10
ardchoillemooper: O don't use vlc, I don't know12:10
gameplayeri've got a problem with adept on a fresh reinstall of gutsy, with the home dir kept from my feisty install. Adept still propose me tu upgrade to gutsy...12:10
Smorgis there a linux cd emulator like daemon tools?12:10
ardchoillemartin_: does dmesg give a device path (/dev/sda*)? If so, try mounting it.12:10
traeneSmorg: but you can mount iso's, why are daemon tools needed?12:11
mooperardchoille: what do you use?12:11
titanix88smorg:don't know but iso mounting is easy.12:11
Smorgcopy protection12:11
ardchoillemooper: mplayer, it supports closed captions and vlc doesn't.12:11
spirooWould be damn nice if you could right click on an ISO-file and choose mount ;)12:12
Smorgfor emulating copy protected windows game disks on wine using an iso created with alcohol12:12
titanix88smorg: ?!!!12:12
ardchoillespiroo: You can write a service menu item to do that or look for one on kde-look.org12:13
Bur3ka bug in the kvpnc ?  "QString::arg(): Argument missing: Wrong authentication method used. We use "MD5" but peer want "SHA1", this will be fixed., OpenVPN"12:13
SmorgI broke one of my diablo II install disks but fortunately saved an image :-D12:13
spiroookay, but would cause some problems I guess because I do not only wanna mount ISO. I wanna mount all kind of images.12:13
titanix88smorg:wine can not properly make cd checking games run.12:14
titanix88smorg:wine can not properly make cd checking games run.12:14
Smorg@spiroo12:14
spirooLike .bin, .cue, .img, .nrg and so on12:14
ardchoilletitanix88: Please don't repeat your posts12:14
SmorgI had a similar problem with alcohol's format12:14
Smorgthere is a converter you can use12:14
Smorgpretty easy12:14
neur1hello12:14
spirooYeye, I just wanna be able to mount them, mostly for watch movies.12:15
martin_ardchoille: mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab12:15
Smorgtitanix: it probably can if you use a perfect 1:1 image12:15
SmorgI don't see why it wouldn't12:15
titanix88now repeating?...:o12:15
titanix88now repeating?...:o12:15
shoooodhi all12:15
Smorgstill repeating12:15
ardchoillespiroo: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=287   There's tons of service menu stuff there12:15
martin_ardchoille: also dmesg didnt exactly give me an address12:15
mooperI get error 12:14:39: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/hda< when trying to play dvd's in kaffeine12:15
Smorg!iso12:15
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.12:16
ardchoillemart:(12:16
ardchoillemartin_: :(12:16
titanix88now?my damn client:(12:16
Smorghm can't remember what its called12:16
ardchoilletitanix88: Looks ok now, thanks for fixing :)12:16
spiroothanks ardchoille12:16
Smorgah yes cd image conversion :)12:16
martin_ardchoille: well, at least thats a justification to keep my xp-partition :) thanx a lot anyway!12:17
shoooodpls guys i hanna some help here12:17
ardchoillemartin_: Not every usb device is recognise4d. I had a usb stick that wasn't recognised and I bought a new one, fixed the problem.12:17
shoooodi'm totally new to linux12:17
ardchoilleshooood: What do you want help with?12:18
shoooodi wanna know if i have an open source12:18
SmorgZOMG PLOX gief Hlep!112:18
shoooodhow to set it uo from the terminal12:18
spirooWould be nice with a GUI like Daemon-tools to mount images. I would be doing it if I could, but I cannot12:18
Smorgaa yea theres mdf2iso12:19
Smorguniverse repository12:19
shoooodsetting up a program12:19
b01kaHow do I enable the DESKTOP EFFECTS in Kubuntu 7.10, so far I had no success12:19
martin_archoille: well, i tried quite a number of them..12:19
Smorgemulation and mounting are totally different12:19
Smorgdaemon tools actually emulates the physical hardware12:19
b01kacan someone help mee?12:19
shoooodlet's seeb0lka what is ur VGA model12:20
b01kaATI12:20
b01kamobility 140012:20
Smorgwhich makes things like copy protected disks possible to run12:20
ardchoille!ati | b01ka12:20
ubotub01ka: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:20
shoooodu go to System>Desktop Effect12:20
martin_!usb12:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:20
shoooodit'll ask u to enable driver u have to confirm12:20
Smorgmaybe winehq knows...12:21
shoooodand it'll download the driver then installing it and ask u to restart12:21
b01kain System there is no option Desktop effect12:21
stupidgirlhi I have kubuntu 7.10 and when I plug in my external usb drive it shows under /media/ but when I click on it in dolphn there it wont open, and it says at the bottom of the screen "hal-storage-removable-mount-options refused uid 1000" any1 know how i can fix it12:21
shoooodsorry b0lka under system u 'll find preference then desktop effects12:23
tysonswI need a little help.. my computer keps stalling at shutdown.. all I se is the kubuntu window and there it stops12:23
shoooodb0lka does it work ?????????12:23
b01kani preference12:24
b01kain kubuntu12:24
shoooodyup12:24
shoooodi guess so12:24
tysonswI need a little help.. my computer keps stalling at shutdown.. all I se is the kubuntu window and there it stops12:24
shoooodlet me ask first what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu ????????12:25
Lynoureshooood: Where? I'm looking at System settings, and cannot see desktop effects either?12:25
maverickis QTparted capable of resizing NTFS drives mounted using NTFS-3g ??12:25
b01kaKDE12:25
spirooKDE4 for the way :D12:25
Smorgprobably the first entry in the faqs12:25
Lynoureshooood: I thought it was there by default only for Gnome (Ubuntu)12:25
tysonswI need a little help.. my computer keps stalling at shutdown.. all I se is the kubuntu window and there it stops12:25
shoooodthis's another thing i wanna ask about12:25
shoooodwhat is KDE and gnome12:25
shooood?????????????12:25
maverickshooood: !KDE12:26
stdin!kde12:26
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.12:26
maverick!kde | shooood12:26
ubotushooood: please see above12:26
stdin!gnome12:26
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.12:26
b01kashooood can you aopen a private chat with me?12:26
tysonswI need a little help.. my computer keps stalling at shutdown.. all I se is the kubuntu window and there it stops12:26
stdinshooood: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE too12:26
traenetysonsw: Did you try hit escape when start seeing the kubuntu window?12:27
shoooodthank u all12:27
tysonswtraene no12:27
shoooodand b0lka12:27
shoooodi can't open it coz it said am not a regestered member12:27
b01kaok12:27
stupidgirlhi I have kubuntu 7.10 and when I plug in my external usb drive it shows under /media/ but when I click on it in dolphn there it wont open, and it says at the bottom of the screen "hal-storage-removable-mount-options refused uid 1000" any1 know how i can fix it12:27
tysonswtraene but io got another problem to.. the computer has stoped booting from cd-rom.. I can't boot form my kubuntu cd12:28
b01kaKubuntu 7.10 should have by default the desktop effects, if I read correctly?12:28
stdinb01ka: no12:28
stupidgirlno b0lka12:28
b01kaok12:28
traenetysonsw: wrong boot order in BIOS?12:28
tysonswtraene no.. hAVE ALREADY CHECKED THAT12:29
traenetysonsw: no reason to yell :-)12:29
tysonswtraene sry.. didn't mean to..12:29
tysonswtraene I just hit the caps12:29
shoooodi downloaded a cedega program using torrent and i wanna know how to install it12:29
titanix88shoood: kde & gnome are like different versions of windows with different outlook but same kernel.;)12:29
stdin!cedega12:30
traenetysonsw: but there must be some bios output on the screen, to see what it boots and why12:30
shoooodi see that when it ask me to download a 508MB files12:30
b01kaok so that you can understand me better, when I loaded kubuntu for the firts time It said something about enabling the ATI proprietary driver; I did this and It seems that the video card works12:30
b01kabut12:30
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega12:30
tysonswtraene yeah.. it says it starts the cd.. but then it finds out that kubuntu is already installed and stops booting form cd12:30
shoooodubotu plz all i want is some one how tell me how to install any program that i have its source12:31
traenetysonsw: no idea how to help from here, sry12:31
freglhi12:32
tysonswtraene okej.. thanks anyway12:32
stdinshooood: ubotu is a bot, follow the link it gave12:32
titanix88shoood:ubotu is a bot:)!!12:32
titanix88shoood:ubotu is a bot:)!!12:32
traenetysonsw: maybe you can boot knoppix and delete the kubuntu partition...12:33
shoooodok12:33
traeneshooood : that depends on the software. Normally configure && make && make install12:33
titanix88anyone here use reiserfs?12:33
shoooodthanks all guys12:33
chris_does anyone here use mythtv btw?12:33
maverick"/media/D device is busy" ....how can i free this device ?!!12:33
traenechris_: no, vdr.12:34
jussi01!compile | shooood12:34
ubotushooood: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:34
Lynouretitanix88: if you have a question about it, just ask. It's quicker than doing a poll first12:34
chris_traene: whats vdr?12:34
traenechris_: Video Disk Recorder (I think from Klaus Schmidinger?).12:34
titanix88what is the advantage over ext3?that's all?:(no poll!:((12:35
titanix88what is the advantage over ext3?that's all?:(no poll!:((12:35
traenechris_: Tv without need to install X basically12:35
jussi01shooood: which program are you trying to install?12:35
stdin!reiserfs | titanix8812:35
chris_traene: thanks, can it run in X or not?12:35
ubotutitanix88: reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html12:35
shoooodcedega and am running ubuntu12:35
traenechris_: sure, if you install it. its based on Debian12:35
shoooodas i know that cedega program is not free12:35
chris_ok, final question, will it work with pvr 150?12:35
traenechris_: there is an c't edition (www.heise.de)12:36
jussi01shooood: cedega is incredibly hard to compile imho. I would just pay for the pacaged version if i were you.12:36
shoooodso  beside the way to install it i need a way to make it regestered12:36
traenechris_: dont know12:36
traenechris_: but there i a wiki too12:36
stdinshooood: try asking in #cedega12:37
shoooodwhat is the pacaged version ??????12:37
chris_traene: thanks for your help12:37
jussi01shooood: the version yo pay for - that you can install a lot easier and is fully featured12:37
traenechris_: not for that :-)12:38
shoooodfirst i don't have money to pay for a prog12:38
shoooodand i guess that linux prog are free of charge12:38
traeneshooood: cause you all invested into that game :-)12:38
maverickguys, i want to umount one of my drives, but it keeps saying resource is busy, am not using it not opening any folder from it...whta can i do to free it ?!!12:38
nosrednaekimmaverick: are you running some program thats accessing it?12:39
stdinshooood: to use cedega you have to pay per month, more info in #cedega12:39
traenemaverick : lsof /dev/cdrom maybe?12:39
Lynoureshooood: it's not expensive, ~15 dollars if I remember. And no, all programs for Linux are not free of charge, even all open source programs are not free of charge.12:39
titanix88anyone know how to crack cedega?12:39
Lynourestdin: not to use, to keep downloading, if I recall right12:39
JackPhilafter upgrade to gutsy, kaffeine-xine always crashing12:39
mooperwhen I try to open DVD in any player I get "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device." or similar, any Ideas?12:39
Lynourestdin: the version you have gotten, you can keep using till the end of world, if you wish.12:40
stdinLynoure: for a subscription, it's completely free if you use the svn version (for testing)12:40
SoulChildhey all ,.... what does this mean ?? " ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found."12:40
spirooOne thing i bother me on. Why has i not been fixed, when you ctr+x on a file on desktop and paste it somewhere else. the file on desktop still is there. It just copy the file.12:40
traeneSoulChild: Probably a wrong ACPI implementation of your mainboard12:41
nosrednaekimSoulChild: is it a fatal error?12:41
SoulChildnosrednaekim: no, everything works fine12:41
traeneSoulChild: as long as you don't want Acpi-Sleep or something like that I would ignore it12:42
nosrednaekimSoulChild: if everything thing is working...don'tworry about ACPI errors, probably nothing importatn12:42
SoulChildtraene: okay12:42
stdinSoulChild: from something I saw a while ago, that's something to do with ACPI (a dump of the acpi code)12:42
traeneSoulChild: for more information have a look into the current Linux Magazin12:43
SoulChildhwo di i clear all my logs, or force logrote to archive them???12:44
traeneSoulChild lograte --help says: "-f" to force12:44
zmityahi all, I have a fully upgraded feisty, but adept does not show the "version upgrade" button12:45
zmityawhy ?12:45
zmityatrying this12:46
zmityahttp://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/12:46
flick2hi, could anyone get compiz running properly with kubuntu? for me the taskbar buttons are not flashing for any applications which are supposed to flash them12:46
* nosrednaekim doesn't know a thing about upgrading12:47
Lynoureflick2: I haven't tried, but I know others have succeeded, even on ATI radeon X60012:47
flick2ok12:48
flick2if anyone could confirm that flashing the taskbar works with compiz enabled, i can then keep trying to fix it12:48
flick2there could be something wrong with my installation, as it is not a clean install - i installed kubuntu over ubuntu12:49
titanix88!xfs12:49
ubotuxfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS12:49
Lynoureflick2: http://www.revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/173 (about the compiz, for feisty)12:50
titanix88!filesystems12:50
ubotuext3 is the default fileystem in Ubuntu (and many other Linuxes). Alternative Linux filesystems include reiserfs and xfs. fat32 and ntfs are DOS/Windows filesystems. hfs and hfs+ are filesystems for the Mac. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems12:50
flick2thanks Lynoure12:51
titanix88!ext412:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:51
flick2you guys don't prefer running compiz?12:51
titanix88flick2: i do.12:52
flick2titanix88 for you did the taskbar (minimized) button for any window ever flash (with compiz enabled)?12:53
nosrednaekimI do as well12:53
titanix88flick2:normally no. but violently when i tried awn.12:54
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Linux_Galore!artwork13:00
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy13:00
WaltzingAlong!botabuse13:00
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...13:00
* Jucato scratches his head13:01
LynoureWaltzingAlong: hmm? after just one asking?13:01
WaltzingAlongjust any of us can chat with the bot in private chat13:02
* titanix88 askeshow to be an op?13:02
nosrednaekimnice blog post Jucato13:02
WaltzingAlongmaybe not all know that13:02
Jucatohtnaks nosrednaekim13:02
Jucatoer.. thanks13:02
JucatoWaltzingAlong: there's a less um... threatening trigger for the same factoid13:02
Jucato!msgthebot13:03
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...13:03
WaltzingAlongJucato: ok thanks13:03
Jucatomaybe not all know that too :)13:03
titanix88stdin:what makes u an op and me not?13:03
WaltzingAlongseems the text from the bot is then the same13:03
Jucatotitanix88: he was asked and you weren't :)13:03
stdintitanix88: maybe I killed kittens in a past life and am being punished13:04
JucatoWaltzingAlong: yeah. I just said less threatening trigger :)13:04
Jucatooh stdin's here... that's my cue13:04
* Jucato disappears in a puff of hexadecimal numbers13:04
Hub441hi!13:05
* stdin breaks in to the matrix and reconstitutes Jucato from binary bits13:05
spiroo!hi13:05
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!13:05
Hub441just noticed that most of kdebluetooth configuration dialogues are gone in gutsy/kde-3.5.8 :/13:06
Hub441actually i can't figure out how to control wich bluetooth services get started and how to allow/deny clients to use them13:06
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Hub441s/wich/which/13:06
titanix88stdin:u work with who? cannonical,www.irc.freenode.net,linux fondation? get paid?13:06
stdintitanix88: no, no, no and no13:07
agresoris it posible to create13:08
agresorfolder in /sys13:08
agresor:D13:08
vyomanafter yesterdays upgrade I am prompted for a version upgrade again this morning, shall I continue?13:08
titanix88stdin:then why, how, by who?13:08
WaltzingAlongvyoman: known issue, skip it13:08
vyomanthanks13:08
stdinagresor: you can, but it will be erased after a reboot. /sys is a virtual filesystem, like /proc13:08
stdintitanix88: I am a member of the community and helped out here, answering questions etc. then I was asked if I wanted to help out by being an op, I said "yes"13:09
agresoraha oke :)13:10
titanix88stdin:i know it's offtopic.but plz...for last time.13:10
titanix88ohh, i get:)13:10
titanix88stdin:13:12
titanix88sorry:s13:12
kblinhi folks13:12
_mikahi guys, i've a little problem, i open adept manager but it says that another process is already open and until i close it i'll not be able to update anything... the problem is that with a ps aux | grep -i adept (or apt) i haven't any other process...13:12
WaltzingAlongkblin: greetings13:12
WaltzingAlong!fixapt | _mika13:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:12
Jucato!aptfix | _mika13:12
ubotu_mika: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:12
WaltzingAlongah so close! :D13:12
JucatoWaltzingAlong: losing our touch are wee? :)13:12
Jucatowe*13:12
_mikathanks :)13:12
WaltzingAlongapparently13:13
kblinsay, is there any qemu frontent in gutsy that's even remotely as useable as vmware's stuff?13:13
Jucato!info qtemu | kblin13:13
ubotukblin: qtemu: graphical user interface for QEMU. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (gutsy), package size 568 kB, installed size 960 kB13:13
Jucato!info qemulaunch13:14
ubotuPackage qemulaunch does not exist in gutsy13:14
Jucatobah..13:14
stdin!info qtemu13:14
Jucatostdin: done ^^^13:14
stdinfine :p13:14
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Jucato!info qemu-launcher13:14
ubotuqemu-launcher: GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.4-1 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 440 kB13:14
JucatoI was thinking of that one too ^^13:14
WaltzingAlongkblin: something sure but maybe not as first-time user friendly as what you have come to expect from vmware13:14
stdinkblin: best way to find out is to open adept, and search for "qenu"13:14
Jucatokblin: of course follow stdin, except search for "qemu"13:15
ozehkaHey, I'm trying to use dolphin/konqueror as ftp-client. On some servers it would give me a login-box, but on some i need to enter the username like "ftp://username@www.server.net"13:15
kblinstdin: I did an aptitude search qemu, and qtemu didn't show up...13:15
stdinno, search for qenu, see what it shows :p13:15
titanix88stdin: i did some translations in launchpad and with surprise i was acknowledged when i ordered gutsy free cds.:D all i did was writing 17 sentences:p13:15
stdinkblin: take a look at virtualbox13:15
Jucatokblin: if USB support isn't very much important to you, you can also try virtualbox-ose13:15
ozehkamy problem is that my username is too long and dolphin/konqueror would change it to "us...ame"13:15
stdintitanix88: every contribution helps :)13:16
WaltzingAlongozehka: some probably let you in with anonymous so you could use the username and password like that each time13:16
kblinbesides, it doesn't tell me if it's useable13:16
agresorwhy do you oreder free cd's13:16
agresorwhen yoy have download13:16
agresor:S13:16
stdinozehka: I think that bug was reported a day or two ago13:16
ozehkaok13:16
Jucatokblin: aptitude search only searches by name. since qtemu doesn't have "qemu" in it's name, that's the problem13:16
stdinagresor: to give out to friends, family and random strangers13:17
ozehkaWaltzingAlong: thanks, it works with anonymous13:17
Jucatokblin: if you want aptitude search to search both name and description, you need to put ~d before the word, like aptitude search ~dqemu13:17
tekstacyIs there a utility to convert a bunch of .ogg to .mp3's?13:17
titanix88agresor: well i currently lack a net connec fast enough:(13:17
agresorah ok13:17
agresor:)13:17
agresorsorry13:17
kblinJucato: arguably, but even if I did my search in adept, it wouldn't tell me about the usability of the interface :)13:18
stdinkblin: google the packages, find the project website and look at screenshots13:18
Jucatokblin: of course it wouldn't. would you expect each app to say "the usability of this app sucks" or rocks? :)13:18
ForgeAusJucato! :)13:18
Jucatohi ForgeAus13:18
ForgeAusgood to see you again :)13:19
flubOk, I got hung on the "scanning disk" stage because my iPod was plugged in..13:19
Jucatoheh thanks13:19
ForgeAusand you'll be happy at least this time I have no problem to ask for help with13:19
ForgeAus(mostly just a social visit)13:19
Jucatohaha :)13:19
Jucatothat's good :)13:19
ForgeAusthe bad side of the news is I've mostly reverted back to using XP as my primary operating system but I still love Kubuntu and have no plans to remove it13:20
Jucato:P13:20
kblinstdin: I was going to, but I figured first-hand recommendations would be good as well13:20
crazy_busis there a transkode binary anywhere, as  I can't find one in apt13:20
agresorwhen the games will be available for Linux... I mean.. installations and graphic support.. etc..13:21
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agresornot with some stupid emoulations..13:21
agresorIt will be cool then: )13:21
ForgeAusagresor thats the problem developers need to seriously develop games for linux13:21
kudaranyone experiencing slow wifi with 7.10?13:21
ForgeAuslike Blizzard and and so forth13:21
Jucatokblin: unfortunately, "first hand recommendations" are alway subjective and personal :)13:21
agresor :)13:21
ForgeAusor at least *nix compatible ones13:21
agresorForgeAus,  yeag13:21
nosrednaekimagresor: doom,neverwinter nights, unreal tournament, americas army... oh yes.. there are games for linu ;)13:22
ForgeAusplatform independant would be a better idea :)13:22
agresornosrednaekim,  ?13:22
Jucatoooh neverwinter nights! that reminds me...13:22
agresorplaying with wine ?13:22
* Jucato does some researching.. laters13:22
agresoror cedega ?13:22
agresorit is stupid.13:22
ForgeAusor xover office13:22
Jucatoit isn't :P13:22
agresorYOu newer get grapich like on win13:22
stdinagresor: no, those are native games13:22
agresorah13:22
nosrednaekimagresor: all native13:22
Jucatoagresor: they run natively13:22
agresoroke :)13:22
kblinagresor: that's wrong, btw13:22
Jucatoresearch before you condemn :)13:22
agresorheh13:22
agresor:D13:22
kblinagresor: there's games that run in wine just fine13:22
ForgeAusJucato sounds like good advice :)13:23
agresori get installed BIND913:23
ForgeAusI only wish I took it more often13:23
agresorand now runing my nameserver13:23
Jucatohaha :)13:23
stdinmost games run better in wine than they do in windows13:23
agresorlisten problem please :D13:23
agresorit is funny13:23
titanix88hey anyone know how to reinstall grub after xp install?:(i tried a lot but never succeded. any easy semi noob guide?13:23
agresorand now i get 2 box13:23
nosrednaekimand on the open source side, " sauerbraten, tremulous, bzflag, freecol, wesnoth...."13:23
ForgeAusstdin? interesting13:23
nosrednaekim!grub13:23
stdin!grub | titanix8813:23
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto13:23
agresorone is linux kubuntu and other is windows VISTA13:23
ubotutitanix88: please see above13:23
agresorand i get NAT connection13:23
ForgeAusI had trouble getting alot of popcap/reflexive arcade games working in *nix13:23
kblinstdin: that's really game-dependant13:23
ForgeAusthat and they ALWAYS wanted to change my screen res :(13:24
ForgeAusso I had to xrandr almost each time13:24
stdinForgeAus: a lot of people report better FPS rates than on windows13:24
agresorcan anyone check does my nameserver works propertly ?13:24
agresor ???13:24
agresoror is check of that posible ?13:24
roland_my soundcard is installed and i can "see", how kaffeine plays a song.13:24
ForgeAusstdin, for 3d games? sure I can understand that13:24
stdinkblin: I know, that's why i said "most" :)13:24
roland_but i can't hear anything :-(13:24
ForgeAusLinux is more efficient at 3D stuff it seems13:24
stdinForgeAus: not just 3d, but yeah13:24
ForgeAusbut I don't play many 3D games13:24
kblinForgeAus: please report bugs about those13:24
ForgeAuskblin I can't be certain they're bugs...13:25
stdinForgeAus: linux is generally more efficient with CPU and memory allocation13:25
ForgeAusone thing I know Bejeweled 2 worked nicely :)13:25
kblinForgeAus: if wine doesn't restore your resolution properly, that's a bug13:25
ForgeAusstdin, possibly I don't know the facts on that one what I do know, is that I don't seem to notice a problem with those things under windows.. probably depends on my application or how critical that issue is to me13:26
ForgeAus(which is .. as far as I'm aware of ... not very critical)13:26
stdinForgeAus: start windows, just after it stops loading open the task manager and look at the memory used. then, do the same in linux ;)13:27
ForgeAusis gutsy in alpha / beta or an equivalent or is it a major release? (as much as Edgy, Feisty, etc were)13:27
Minnozzdoes anybody know how I can let my mobile phone connect to the internet via bluetooth => my pc ?13:27
ramiI cant use limewire since the upgrade, whats wrong?13:27
kblinwhich reminds me, are the new closed source ati video drivers worth the disk space?13:27
stdinit's released, like edgy, feisty, etc13:27
ForgeAuswow, thats quick13:28
stdinForgeAus: 6 month release cycle :)13:28
ForgeAusseemed like only a month or two ago (although I'm well aware it was much longer) that edgy was the major version at the time13:28
nosrednaekimkblin: not until the 8.42's13:28
ForgeAusand fiesty was on its way in13:28
lellohi to all!13:28
stdinjust wait until Hardy13:28
lelloanyone can help me with a hal problem?13:28
ForgeAuswhat happens when they run out of letters and get to zesty zebra?13:28
ForgeAusor wait is there an animal that starts with X?13:29
stdinthey probably start again13:29
ForgeAusor an adjective for that matter :)13:29
nosrednaekimlello: what is the error?13:30
tysonswwhat is the main diference beetwen ubuntu and kubutu13:30
nosrednaekim!kubuntu | tysonsw13:30
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: gnome and kde13:30
ubotutysonsw: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE13:30
nosrednaekim!kde13:30
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.13:30
stdin!flavors13:31
ubotu!GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu13:31
lellonosrednaekim: after upgrade 7.10 from 7.04, can't configure (and start) hal demon13:33
nosrednaekimlello: try "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"13:33
lellonosrednaekim: now I've remove it from system. So I can reinstall and then use this command?13:34
nosrednaekimyeah... reinstall it.13:34
nosrednaekimlello: don't ever remove things like that... it can totally ruin your syste,13:34
nosrednaekimHAL, dbus, kernels are things you don't want to remove13:35
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tysonsw!wifi13:35
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:35
lelloI now nosrednaekim, but it seem to doesn't finalize installation and also upgrading of all other packages13:35
nosrednaekimlello: what?13:36
lellonosrednaekim: when I upgrade some pakages or other application, Adept says that can't commit changes13:37
nosrednaekimdid you reinstall hal?13:37
lellonosrednaekim: here the output of your command (with some cuts): "invoke-rc.d: initscript hal, action "start" failed." - after starting hal13:37
lelloof course I had reinstall hal13:38
nosrednaekimlello: ouch....13:38
lellonosrednaekim: what mean ouch.... 8-(13:39
nosrednaekimlello: it means "not good at all"13:39
nosrednaekimlello: whatever you do, don't reboot13:39
tysonswdoes any1 know were I can find wireless drivers??13:39
lellonosrednaekim: I gues... but there a way to solve?13:39
nosrednaekim!hardware | tysonsw13:39
ubotutysonsw: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport13:39
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lellonosrednaekim: also the error at the end of hal install: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"13:40
ubuntu_o.o13:40
stupidgirlhai, how to make something start at startup in kde? like compiz13:41
lellonosrednaekim: also knetworkmanager can't work, and also kde-desktop13:42
nosrednaekimlello: erkk I don't know how to fix that...13:42
nosrednaekim!autostart13:42
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.13:42
nosrednaekimlello: knetworkmanager relies on HAL.13:42
stupidgirloook thanks nosrednaekim  what if i want 2 make it "compiz --replace"13:43
lellonosrednaekim: any idea?13:43
nosrednaekimstupidgirl: create a .desktop file in that DIR and make the associated command "compiz --replace"13:44
attunixWhat libraries do I need installed to program in GTK?13:44
nosrednaekimlello: ok...let us try something... try a reboot.13:44
stupidgirlook nosrednaekim  thnx13:44
Gerrit!dvd13:45
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs13:45
attunix!gtk13:45
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI13:45
nosrednaekimattunix: that would be a question more suitable for #ubuntu13:45
attunixnosrednaekim: ok13:45
attunixGerrit: with mplayer you can play dvds with no codecs13:45
lellonosrednaekim: I reboot a lot of time. The strange thing is that system is stable and I can use all my USB pendrive and printer13:46
stupidgirlwhat do u mean by associated command, nosrednaekim , do i just put that in the file13:46
stupidgirlsorry im a noob13:46
nosrednaekimlello: huh....odd, so what doesn't work?13:46
Gerritattunix: mplayer says: Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd13:46
nosrednaekimstupidgirl: get the kcontrol module for autostarting...13:47
lellonosrednaekim: at this moments nothing but I think it is an important component, or not?13:47
TheKingIs there something wrong with apt-get?13:47
GerritI'm trying to play a DVD with mplayer. In /var/log/syslog it says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41510/13:48
WaltzingAlongTheKing: no13:48
TheKingOk, I am having problems using it.13:48
WaltzingAlong!aptfix | TheKing13:48
ubotuTheKing: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:48
TheKingI will try that.13:48
TheKingI have a KILL process warning, should I allow it?13:50
WaltzingAlongsure13:50
plooperhey, kubuntu keeps freesing up after being up for around 10 mins. Anyone know what could be causing this?13:51
lellonosrednaekim: so I can use system without this daemon?13:51
nosrednaekimlello: if everything is orking for you... sure!13:52
nosrednaekimlello: linux didn't have it for 10 years!13:52
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WaltzingAlonglinux13:52
GerritI am trying to read a DVD but I get errors (such as: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41510/ ). However, it has worked once. What can I try?13:53
TheKingWaltzingAlong: The command you told me hasnt worked. I am not using Adept Manager. I am in a Terminal using the command sudo apt-get install alien, but it stops at connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com13:53
WaltzingAlongTheKing: apt-get, adept, aptitude, synaptic, and the others are, as far as i know, frontends to apt13:54
WaltzingAlongTheKing: but what you are mentioning is timeouts in connecting to the repository13:54
lellonosrednaekim: ah ok! I think it is important... but you know a technical forum where I can find some solved problem like this (not ubuntu forums) ?13:54
TheKingYes.13:54
TheKingMy Internet Connection is running perfectly.13:55
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WaltzingAlongsure TheKing so it can be other things; use a mirror or try again later or diagnose further13:56
WaltzingAlong!mirrors | TheKing13:56
ubotuTheKing: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php13:56
nosrednaekimlello: no..I don't... but www.linuxquestions.org ussualy has alot of technical people.13:56
aztunhi13:56
nosrednaekim!repositoreis13:57
nosrednaekim!repositories13:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repositoreis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:57
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu13:57
aztunanyone knows when vmware-server package will be avaiable on gutsy commercial repository?13:57
tjohnsonhi there13:57
nosrednaekimhello13:57
lellonosrednaekim: thank you very much!13:57
WaltzingAlongTheKing: sorry i meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors13:57
TheKingIts ok13:57
gnuteredI have a problem with Kubuntu.  I went through the process to install XGL and compiz, and now it seems that even normal X doesn't start the KDE window decorator.  I have since removed xserver-xgl and restarted X but that still doesn't seem to help.  Clues?13:57
gnutered(this uis Gutsy, on a Dell Inspiron 6400, ATi graphics card)13:58
WaltzingAlonggnutered: have you also removed compiz-fusion ?13:58
TheKingWaltzingAlong: I do not want to install Kubuntu over again.13:58
kristinahi, when I select an image (for example) in dolphin the preview stays that of the folder, even though the actions are the ones of the image. is that a bug or something?13:58
gnuteredWaltzingAlong: no - should that affect the window decorator in standard X?13:59
WaltzingAlongTheKing: nor do you need to. instead of using us.archive.ubuntu.com you could find others that are close to use at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors13:59
WaltzingAlonggnutered: kwin --replace ?13:59
TheKingBut how do I use these mirrors? (sorry kubuntu noob)13:59
ardchoilleaztun: I believe that's in the Canonical repo now14:00
aztunardchoille: I cant find it14:00
ardchoilleaztun: Sorry, Canonical > Main14:00
WaltzingAlongTheKing: read up on changing your sources.list file;14:00
ardchoilleaztun:  http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/14:00
WaltzingAlong!source-o-matic | TheKing14:00
ubotuTheKing: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic14:00
gnuteredWaltzingAlong: there is actually no compiz-fusion package - it looks like it's compiz now.  And I can workaround with running kde-window-decorator, but that's a band-aid14:01
TheKingThanks14:01
aztunardchoille: when I do "apt-cache search vmware-server" I only the the modules packages14:01
aztunvmware-server-kernel-modules14:01
WaltzingAlongaztun: as far as i know it is not yet available in gutsy's canonical repository14:01
ardchoilleaztun: You need to add  "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main" to your sources, then update, then search14:01
aztunthx ardchoille, gonna try14:02
ardchoilleWaltzingAlong: It's there14:02
WaltzingAlongardchoille: thanks14:02
ardchoilleaztun: Want a command to do it all at once?14:02
sn00pyhi! I wanted to find out which network drivers are in use. so I typed in "lsmod". it doesn't show madwifi but "ath_pci". is ath_pci another network driver?14:02
sn00pyi think i need madwifi for aircrack14:02
TheKingAnother noobish question, where is the sources.list file located14:03
vltHello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?14:03
gnuteredTheKing: /etc/apt14:03
WaltzingAlongTheKing: /etc/apt/sources.list14:03
TheKingok14:03
aztunImposible obtener http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)14:03
aztunit doesnt work14:03
aztun:?14:03
TheKingI cannot write to the file. I do not have the required permisssions.14:04
WaltzingAlongardchoille: could not find vmware-server in archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main14:04
WaltzingAlongTheKing: right, alt+f2; kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list14:04
ardchoilleWaltzingAlong: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vmware-server/14:04
aztunI added this line to sources.list "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main"14:04
TheKingok14:04
aztunbut it doesnt work14:04
WaltzingAlongardchoille: sure i know it was there for feisty14:05
karthikeyanSOS help!!!!! I messed up with Kubuntu 7.10 and lost the file /usr/bin/libasound.so.2 , can any one email me that file14:05
aztunardchoille: maybe those are packages for gutsy?14:05
WaltzingAlongkarthikeyan: reinstall the package that provided it14:05
ardchoilleaztun: WaltzingAlong has a point, maybe it's there for Feisty but ot for Gutsy14:05
Tstnz!xgl14:06
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion14:06
karthikeyanbut how to re install14:06
aztunkarthikeyan: download it yourself14:06
aztunhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libasound.so.2&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i38614:06
Tstnz!xorg14:06
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto14:06
karthikeyanthanks14:06
karthikeyanI wil lok for it14:06
BluesKajHowdy folks ...64bit Gutsy is "almost" there ...Google Earth works but it's kinda slow. Was reading on Mark shuttleworth's blog that ATI is working to gether some Linux teams to come up with a driver that will finally do the job for most cards sold within the last few yrs ...let's hope this works out14:07
Jucatoaztun: were you trying to install opera?14:08
gnuteredkarthikeyan: a better way should be: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libasound214:08
karthikeyanok14:08
karthikeyanwil try14:08
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aztunJucato: im trying to install vmware-server on gutsy14:09
Jucatoand the canonical repository is blocking you?14:09
aztunand I´d like to do it using oficial respos14:09
aztunnot compiling14:09
aztunI cant find the vmware-server package on canonical repos14:10
Jucatoaztun: remove the archive.canonical.com repository, it's the wrong repo14:10
Jucatoyes, it doesn't have one14:10
gnuteredaztun: I agree - it appears that vmware-server is not yet available in gutsy repos14:10
aztunso the only solution is to compile14:10
aztunor wait for the repo upgrade14:10
aztun:(14:10
Jucatovmware-server can't be available in the official ubuntu repos, that's why it's in the commercial canonical repos14:10
gnuteredaztun: or just install from the tarball from vmware.com14:10
gnuteredworks for me14:10
Jucatoaztun: might be a long wait, but either way, that canonical repo is malformatted14:11
aztunyea, I know gnutered , I have done it many times14:11
ardchoilleHow can I compile my kernel?14:11
aztunbut I prefer commercial repos for easier upgrade later14:11
BluesKajwhere's eagles123 or whatever his nick is ...he knows which site has the vmware server tutorial and the right repos as well14:11
gnuteredaztun: agree.  But even with feisty for some reason I can't remember I used the tarballs over the repos.  I think I had problems getting the packages to work for some reason14:13
MinnozzHow can I discover the 'name' (for in /etc/network/interfaces) of my usb bluetooth dongle?14:13
gnuteredJucato: the partner repo (replaces the commercial repo) only has opera in it at the moment14:13
Jucatognutered: yep14:13
JucatoI meant the format of his repository14:13
aztunyes gnutered, Im using partner repo14:14
Jucatodeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main --> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner (I think)14:14
aztunyes Jucato14:14
aztunthats the line I have on my sources.list14:14
Jucato<aztun> Imposible obtener http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)14:14
Jucato<aztun> I added this line to sources.list "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main"14:14
Jucatoaccording to you, it isn't14:15
aztunyes14:15
aztunwith that lines I get an error14:15
aztunwith this one is works: "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner"14:15
aztunbut cant find vmware-server package14:15
aguitelanyone use devices with chipset Realtek 8180L ?14:15
ardchoilleaztun: It's not there yet. I gave you the wrong info, sorry.14:16
aztunno problem ardchoille :)14:16
aztuney guys, U know any grafical tool to configure compiz on ubuntu similar to beryl-manager?14:17
aztunon kubuntu14:17
agresorwhy i can not install14:18
tysonswi need help with ndiswrapper.. I cnat get it to work14:18
agresor7.1014:18
fluffman!compiz14:18
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion14:18
agresori always get to 82%14:18
agresorconfiguring apt...14:18
agresorScaning MIrrors... :s14:18
agresorand it stops there..14:18
fluffmanaztun: follow directions above ^14:18
agresori almost brake my pc :)14:18
aztunI have allready seen that fluffman14:18
tysonswi need help with ndiswrapper.. I cnat get it to work14:18
agresorhow can fix that error ?14:18
aztunbut there is no info about gui to configure compiz on kubuntu14:19
fluffmancompizconfig-settings-manager14:19
aztunthx fluffman14:19
fluffmanit's under K Menu > settings14:19
aztungonna try compiz14:19
fluffmanyw, aztun14:19
tysonswi need help with ndiswrapper.. I cnat get it to work14:19
aztunbecause beryl is too overblooated for me14:19
gnuteredwell WaltzingAlong, it seems that removing compiz and then restarting X has made my window decorator happy14:20
aztungonna restart X14:20
aztunsee u14:20
aztun:)14:20
fluffmanaztun: if beryl is bloated, then don't bother with compiz14:20
aztunwhy fluffman??14:20
gnuteredWaltzingAlong: so, thanks14:20
aztunI though is simpler than beryl....14:20
fluffmanit's worse14:20
aztunisnt it?14:20
fluffmanberyl seemed light and easy14:20
Jucatoberyl no longer exists per se :)14:20
fluffmancompiz WAS lighter, but when they merged compiz got BLOATED14:20
tysonswi need help with ndiswrapper.. I can't get it to work14:20
arcadeso, hohum.  How do I get the compiz stuff in 7.10, I wonder. :-)14:20
Jucatofluffman: I thought you can still opt not to have compiz-extras (w/c is beryl)14:21
aztunwell14:21
aztunim gonna try14:21
fluffmanaztun: that's the best14:21
Jucatobasically compiz-core is still the original compiz + a few stuff added14:21
fluffmanjust try and find out for yourself14:21
Jucatoaztun: if you need help, #compiz-fusion people are willing to offer assitance14:21
tysonswi need help with ndiswrapper.. I can't get it to work14:21
Jucato(or you could try #ubuntu as well)14:21
karthikeyanYa sound is working , thanks a lot!14:22
arcadeI feel kind of silly. :)  Just upgraded to 7.10 to try the compiz-stuff, and i'm having trouble finding out where to configure it in kubuntu (the Ubuntu-docs seems to be talking about where in gnome to click)14:22
fluffman!compiz | arcade14:22
ubotuarcade: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion14:22
tysonswi need help with ndiswrapper.. I can't get it to work14:23
Jucato!ndiswrapper14:24
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:24
Jucatotysonsw: ^^^14:24
arcadefluffman: ah. :)14:24
Kenichiadept crashed in 7.04 and now it closed how to fix?14:26
Jucato!adeptcrash | Kenichi14:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:26
Jucatoer..14:26
Jucato!aptfix | Kenichi14:26
ubotuKenichi: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:26
Jucatoah, adeptcrashfix... *headdesks*14:26
LjL-Temp!adeptcrash is <alias> adept crash fix14:27
LjL-Temp!apt-fix is <alias> adept crash fix14:27
LjL-Temp!adeptfix is <alias> adept crash fix14:27
LjL-Tempouch.14:27
JucatoI could have done that :)14:27
LjL-Tempi'm not logged in.14:27
Jucato!adeptcrash is <alias> adept crash fix14:27
ubotuI'll remember that, Jucato14:27
LjL-TempJucato: yeah but lately i've seen this factoid called in just about every possible (non-working) way :)14:27
Jucato!apt-fix is <alias> adept crash fix14:27
Kenichithat crash happens all the time when upgrading to kde 3.5.814:28
fluffmanRAWR14:28
fluffmanadept keeps telling me a new distro is available14:29
[ifr0g]hi, how do i find my fully qualified host name ?14:29
fluffmanbut apt-get is smarter14:29
fluffmanany ideas on how to make it stop?14:29
Jucatofluffman: known bug.14:29
* Jucato thinks it will be fixed soon14:29
fluffmangreat14:29
fluffmanthanks, Jucato14:29
* fluffman was sitting here changing all of my repos to say feisty, then dist-upgrading again14:30
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WaltzingAlonggnutered: yeah i thought perhaps compiz was still active14:33
Jucatoit is... as compiz-fusion14:33
WaltzingAlong[ifr0g]: you could use localhost (referring to a setting needed with squid, for example)14:34
bjwebbwhat program is good for searching special characters?14:34
Jucatokcharselect ?14:34
bjwebbprobably14:35
spirooHow do I install KDE4 Beta 3. Do not link me to that page. I do not understand what I should do after I have installed kdebase-workspace and kde4base-dev.14:36
attunixDoes Gutsy have KDE4?14:37
LjLno14:37
spirooNot built in14:37
fluffmanspiroo: go to that page14:37
fluffmanand actually TYPE what it says14:37
bjwebbhmmm how can i search?14:37
spirooanyway, does anybody know how to do it. fluffman: NO!14:37
fluffmanin TTY, type: export KDE blah blah blah14:38
spirooI wanna hear how I should do because I did not do it right last time14:38
Jucatokde4 **BETA** 314:38
WaltzingAlongattunix: no kde 3.5.8 ships with kubuntu 7.10 (gutsy)14:38
WaltzingAlongin14:38
spirooI ACTUALLY did what it says on that page, but does not work, or I did it wrong. PLease help me anyone14:38
Jucatoheheh if you said "with" it would be the other way around :)14:38
fluffmanok you typed everything spiroo?14:39
Jucato!doesntwork14:39
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.14:39
spirooyes I guess so14:39
WaltzingAlongthought i corrected quick enough, guess not ;D14:39
sytholHallo14:39
fluffmannow, do cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop14:39
WaltzingAlongspiroo: which things did you do? where did you get stuck? what 'does not work'? what were you expecting and what happened instead?14:39
spirooJucato: I know, but it actually does not work.14:39
bjwebbhow do i insertunicode characters using keyboard?14:40
Jucatowhat doesn't work? how doesn't it work? what are you trying to do?14:40
WaltzingAlongspiroo: had you installed kdebase-workspace ?14:40
spirooI think I did all of them, nothing happened after reboot14:40
fluffmanyes he had14:40
sytholhi everybody14:40
Jucatospiroo: you don't need to reboot14:40
spiroothe export things, how SHOULD I run them?14:40
spirooIn terminal right?14:40
Jucatospiroo: to run a single kde4 beta3 app, you need to use Konsole, enter those 4 export commands14:40
Jucatothen run a kde4 beta3 app by name14:40
Jucato(like dolphin, konqueror, whatever)14:41
acrabunialquien habla aqui español14:41
kaminixHow do I enable .svg uploads to my Mediawiki?14:41
sytholCan somebody tell me how can i install ftp server on my ubuntu 7.1014:41
LjL!es | acrabuni14:41
ubotuacrabuni: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.14:41
Jucato!ftpd14:41
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP14:41
LjLsythol: apt-get install yourfavouriteserver14:41
spiroookay, should I enter the export lines in terminal?14:41
lil_cainhello. Just upgraded to gutsy, was able to restart x no problems. When I reboot though, it only gives my virtual ttys, it doesn't seem to bes starting x. Init 5 is just crashing the machine14:41
Jucatospiroo:in Konsole, yes14:41
sytholthank14:41
kaminix!KDE14:41
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.14:41
kaminix!Kubuntu14:41
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE14:41
alvorпривет14:41
WaltzingAlongsythol: also look into sftp access (ftp interface to ssh)14:41
sytholsftp14:42
acrabunialquien de venezuela14:42
LjL!ru | alvor14:42
ubotualvor: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke14:42
spirooWhat about Xephyr and that things?14:42
LjL!es | acrabuni, por favor hable ingles aqui14:42
ubotuacrabuni, por favor hable ingles aqui: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.14:42
Jucatospiroo: Xephyr is only for "To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session"14:42
juan_si14:42
spirooJucato: What actually does that mean then?14:43
Jucatospiroo: if you want to start kde4 beta3 as a full session. as in a regular kde session/login. but without starting a new X server.14:43
spirooI can read on internet, but I do not understand what it actually points to.14:43
Jucatoit will run inside a window14:43
spiroookay14:43
Jucatofull session = full, normal, regular, login/desktop session14:44
spirooThe last thing then, KDE 4.desktop, does not work to edit that file and add those exportl ines14:44
JucatoXephyr = allows you to have an X session inside a window14:44
spiroookay thanks for clarify that14:44
ardchoilleI can see how that would be useful14:45
juan_acrabuni i am from venezuela14:45
Jucatoardchoille: except it doesn't do hardware accelerated stuff. so no fancy effects14:45
MaTiAz!adept14:46
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto14:46
ardchoilleJucato: heh, no comment :)14:47
MaTiAzwhat were the commands to use if adept crashed and the database was locked?14:47
ardchoille!adeptfix14:47
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:47
MaTiAzardchoille: thanks14:47
ardchoilleyw14:47
juan_i am using konversation, where do i fin a list of servers?14:49
LjLjuan_: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/FAQ#Where_is_the_server_list.3F14:51
tysonswany1 know a way to install wireless drivers without using wrapper or th ubunutu webside14:52
WaltzingAlongjuan_: you can import mirc's server list14:53
_6502_hello... after upgrading from faisty to gutsy my soundcard (reported by lspci as an NVidia MCP61) stopped working (with feisty was working fine); any pointers for this problem ?14:53
tysonswany1 know a way to install wireless drivers without using wrapper or th ubunutu webside14:53
spiroookay now some apps works. How do I do the rest in kde4 beta 3?14:53
_6502_NVidia MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2), that is14:54
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: yes14:54
WaltzingAlong!wifi > tysonsw14:54
tysonswWaltzingAlong I have already tried that14:55
bjwebbwhat keyboard shortcut will input a unicode character?14:55
VSpikeis krfb protocol compatible with vnc?14:55
WaltzingAlongspiroo: a full session? instructions are at the same site http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php14:55
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: and which wireless chipset do you have?14:55
spirooI runned plasma and all programs I had dissapeared, is that correct?14:56
tysonswWaltzingAlong how do I find that one?? don't remember the command :p14:56
WaltzingAlongstart with lspci in konsole but that does not show the chipset14:56
tysonswWaltzingAlong done.. now what?14:57
bjwebbwhat keyboard shortcut will input a unicode character?14:57
WaltzingAlongbjwebb: ask google. otherwise repeat no more often than 15 minutes in here. thanks14:58
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: find the one referring to your wireless, which is it?14:59
tysonswWaltzingAlong: 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)14:59
bjwebbWaltzingAlong: soory14:59
spirooWhen I started Xephyr and plasma. The taskbar does not show any apps. Should it was that?15:00
baudthiefIs moving from feisty to Gutsy worth the effort?15:00
Jucatospiroo: yes. that's normal for the *beta3*15:00
WaltzingAlongbaudthief: depends on you15:01
spirooOKay, can someone explain last step for me? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php15:01
baudthiefWaltzingAlong: Is it more stable :p15:01
WaltzingAlonghave you had stability problems with kubuntu 7.04? baudthief15:01
spirooI have been copy that file but I do not know how I should change name and edit15:01
_6502_baudthief: i just did, and my soundcard is not working any more, for example15:01
ardchoilleHow can I add icons/entries to the location shown in konqueror when I go to "system:/" ?15:02
baudthief_6502_: gasp, heh - Audigy support in ubuntu is crap as is, I need sound ;\15:02
baudthiefWaltzingAlong: Unsure if its an issue with feisty or not, occasional hiccups - most force me to reboot at least once a day15:02
tysonswWaltzingAlong: 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)15:02
tekteenanyone know how to change the desktop icons that show up on the kubuntu live cd?15:03
WaltzingAlongbaudthief: no luck diagnosing it?15:03
spirooHow do I start an application in plasma?15:03
_6502_baudthief: hehehe... consider that i passed from debian to ubuntu because the live cd of feisty was seeeing my soundcard with no problems...15:03
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: give google a query of that plus ubuntu15:03
ardchoilletekteen: You realise that any changes you make to the live session will be gone when you reboot, right?15:04
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: otherwise seems you can use bcm43xx15:04
tekteenyes15:04
baudthiefWaltzingAlong: I've had many issues I've tried getting help with to no avail - It's been a painful transition from Windows to Ubuntu heh :p15:04
tekteenI am modifing before burning15:04
juanmy kopete crashes all the time when trying to connect to msn15:04
baudthiefeven with the instabilities, I find it far better to use15:04
_6502_juan__: it's a known problem, google for it15:04
ardchoillejuan: Mine does too.15:04
tekteenI can change it when it start15:04
spirooAnyone? Is KDE4 Beta 3 okay to test or does it get problem?15:04
Roberutojuan google for kopete beastie15:04
juanok15:05
Jucatojuan: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/15350015:05
Roberutoyea that one15:05
Jucatospiroo: it gets problems, specially if you don't know how to use it properly yet15:05
tekteenardchoille: have you ever modified the cd before burning?15:06
WaltzingAlongkopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit15:06
baudthiefIs that "false start" problem solved in KDE4? lol15:06
spirooOkay, I guess it would be smarter if I wait then :P But it should be done in december right?15:06
azukwhee, I finally managed to install kubuntu.  is there some graphical thingamabob for configuring grub so that I can get rid of splash permanently?15:06
Jucatohopefully15:06
spirooTo bad that the graphics in KDE4 is uglier than KDe 3.5 :D15:07
baudthiefspiroo: damn lol15:07
miirluu15:07
tekteenanyone here know how to modify the live cd?15:08
ardchoilletekteen: No15:08
tekteenok15:08
WaltzingAlongspiroo: kde4beta3; not meant as final or ready for non-dev use15:08
miirhaving trouble configuring Kopete =( , is there an alternative way to add a new account rather then having to through the settings tab ? Pehaps through the terminal ?15:08
spirooI just want a clean desktop without the ugly grey color. Like glas look like Vista kind a, but sometimes it just get to much. KDE is so blurry :D Can I change myself?15:08
WaltzingAlongspiroo: but play and enjoy, then give the detailed feedback to the dev team15:09
spiroookay :)15:09
Jucatospiroo: the artwork for KDE 4 is far from finished15:09
spirooi guess so15:09
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juanazuk to get rid of bootsplash you have to configure your /bott/grub/menu.lst15:09
spirooI really hope they will compile the new Kopete version into KDE4 when release15:09
baudthiefoh man, Portal / HL2 ep 2 very nearly ALMOST run perfectly under wine15:09
baudthiefexcept for the weird changes in hue every second.15:10
baudthieflike everything turns green, then purple, then red15:10
baudthieflol15:10
spirooKopete is the only msn-IM that works kind a.15:10
Jucatospiroo: they will. but it's a straight, no new features added port from KDE 3 to KDE 415:10
miirThe prblem I have is that when I open settings , the first tab that opens is the webcam configuration and because my webcam won't work atm kopete just crashes ... meaning I can't add new accounts such as MSN , IRC and so on15:10
Jucatoso don't expect any fancy new feature yet15:10
spirooJucato: :(15:10
miiranyone have a good solutino ?15:10
spirooJucato: I does not want any fancy features. I jsut want it should work15:10
Jucatospiroo: the previous plan was not to have Kopete for KDE 4.0 yet (just use KDE 3)15:10
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Jucatothey were going to wait for KDE 4.0.x or 4.1.. but then decide to try and make it for 4.015:11
azukjuan, ok, thanks.  if I have to edit things manually, I think I rather install lilo which I'm familiar with15:11
spirooJucato: Okay :P I hope they solve the problem with file sharing then :)15:11
_6502_hello... after upgrading from feisty to gutsy my soundcard (reported by lspci as an NVidia MCP61 High Definition Audio rev a2) stopped working (with feisty was working fine); any pointers for this problem ?15:11
juanazuk you could do it by typing in the termina, : sudo pico /boot/grun/menu.lst15:11
juanazuk and delete quiet splash  in15:12
spirooFiles has been a problem in Linux. Does not work properly to send files from drive to drive or send from drive to internet and so on.15:12
juanazuk15:12
juantitle           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic15:12
juanroot            (hd0,0)15:12
juankernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=d0dfaf77-40c1-40dd-965e-576463249161 ro quiet splash15:12
juaninitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic15:12
Jucatomiir: you can ask in #kopete if there's a dcop command to add an account15:12
juanquiet15:12
Jucato!flood | juan15:12
ubotujuan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:12
spirooI hope more stablelizing will be in the future.15:13
miirJucato: thx =)15:13
LjLjuan: deleting "quiet splash" *there* is not a good idea, because next time grub-update is invoked, they would be restored. it should be edited, rather, in the commented-out "kopt" line15:13
juansorry guys, didn't know that was going to happen15:13
Jucatospiroo: don't expect KDE 4.0 (emphasis on the .0) to be exactly 100% polished or finished15:13
spirooJucato: I dont, I hope15:14
Jucatospiroo: KDE 4 will be a long series of releases, from KDE 4.0 to KDE 4.1 to KDE 4.2 etc15:14
LjLor anything close to working :P15:14
juanLjL that's what i normally do and i haven't had any problems so far15:14
spirooJucato: Of course it will be15:14
JucatoLjL: it's actually working fine except for Plasma15:14
LjLjuan: that's probably because you haven't yet upgraded your kernel15:14
LjLJucato: which used to be the most hyped part :)15:14
Jucatooverhyped15:14
Jucatoand sadly15:14
spirooI hope for better solutions, not more features. Why wanna be Vista with plastic, toolbars and gadgets?15:15
juanLjL yes, you are totally right, everytime there is a kernel upgrade i have to do it again15:15
juani don't know any other way15:15
azukjuan, I'll manage, I'm just learning all this ubuntu GUI stuff so I was hoping there would have been a way to configure these things via system settings or something like that15:15
Jucatospiroo: it's not wanna be Vista. and the features *are* the solutions15:15
spirooJust want a clean OS, not a grey oldschool one though. You can do a nice looking one without all special effects.15:16
Chairman_WowHi, I'm trying to upgrade to 7.10. Can't get the "version update" button to appear on adept.15:16
Jucatospiroo: if you are already judging it by how it looks, I'm afraid you've missed the whole point15:16
boubbinklipper keeps opening the pop-up menu when i select url in firefox addressbar, i have set that it wont affect firefox and firefox-bin etc in klippers settings, but still, how can i fix this ?15:16
spirooJucato: It is wanna-be-Vista :D15:16
ardchoilleJucato: lol15:16
LjLjuan: where it says "additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the alternatives" : # defoptions=quiet splash15:16
abea doubt in kde4, i need to put the "exports" line at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde but, is really at the top? of a couple line later15:16
spirooJucato: Whats the point then?15:16
Jucatothe point is: you should research and read and inform yourself15:17
Jucatoand "don't judge a book by its cover"15:17
ardchoilles/don't/never/15:17
Jucatoanyway, offtopic for here :)15:17
spirooYes I know that. But the core is not the best either.15:17
spiroookay sorry15:17
Jucatospiroo: how do you even know the core is not the best? all you've been complaining about is how it looks!15:18
LjLJucato: you don't judge the *contents* of the book, but you do judge the *usability* of the book-object itself - how likely pages are to break off, etc :)15:18
ardchoillespiroo: At least it doesn't support every virus/worm/trojan on the planet :)15:18
WaltzingAlongspiroo: better features such as?15:18
JucatoLjL: you judge a book based on its entirety. the best bound book is useless if it contains 1 letter per page15:18
Jucato:)15:18
spirooThe only feature I want is that all things should work.15:18
Jucatoit will. you're judging it too much based on how it looks and on a beta release15:19
_6502_spiroo: especially the soundcard :-)15:19
LjLJucato: and the best written book is very annoying if every page of it just flies free in the air as soon as you try to open it15:19
ardchoillespiroo: You can't guarantee that in any operating system, sorry15:19
WaltzingAlongspiroo: which things? which things do you use? connecting printers and printing right away? or video cards and proprietary drivers or what?15:19
JucatoLjL: hence "in its entirety" :)15:19
Jucatobinding, contents, cover, etc.15:19
Jucatoanyway, I'm gone15:20
swanflhi, where do i get help with kde4 beta 3?15:20
LjLJucato: also, if you get a new bookcase that doesn't fit your old books in well or at all, you won't be happy :)15:20
spirooSound, Graphics, Standards (Not create new ones), better Office like KOffice, Network support should be better, Photoshop or anything which has the same GUI would be great, Something like Daemon-Tools, better torrent-tools and so on ....15:20
baudthiefswanfl:  you don't lol15:20
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Jucato"Standards (Not create new ones)" hahahha!!!15:20
LjLspiroo, you're talking about applications there mostly, not KDE itself15:20
ardchoilleswanfl: #kde ?15:20
kukmanHow I can see the list of deamons?15:20
LjLkukman: system administration / system services15:21
Jucatokukman: you can press Ctrl+Esc to see all running processes15:21
LjLin kcontrol (not sure in system settings)15:21
JucatoSystem Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services15:21
Jucatokukman: ^^^15:21
spirooJucato: I mean follow "standards" like the ones on the market like Flash, MP3 for instance.15:21
LjLAHHHHHHHHHHHHH15:21
LjLsorry15:21
LjLspiroo don't ever say that again. please!15:21
Jucatospiroo: what are you talking about?15:21
WaltzingAlongspiroo: ok so that is a quick overview, how about one layer deeper with it all? what else? how so?15:22
_6502_is there a way in gutsy to downgrade just alsa back to what feisty was using ?15:22
dagulaghow can i use compiz on kubuntu 7.10????15:22
spirooIt does not support them fully I mean in OS15:22
WaltzingAlongJucato: i asked what spiroo desired of kubuntu (rather than just pretty vista-wanna be stuff)15:22
WaltzingAlongdagulag:15:22
Jucatospiroo: 1. that has nothing to do with KDE. 2. those are proprietary and not ISO standards.15:22
Jucato!compiz | spiroo15:22
ubotuspiroo: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion15:22
WaltzingAlongKubuntu is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled) by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion15:22
swanflhow do i run programs in beta3?15:22
LjLspiroo: those are not "standards", those are proprietary stuff that's mostly patented and/or kept secret, with third-party implementations being highly discouraged and disadvantaged15:22
Chairman_WowHi, I'm trying to upgrade to 7.10. Can't get the "version update" button to appear on adept.15:23
spirooDo we speak of Kubuntu overall or KDE? A little bit confused here :D15:23
Jucatospiroo: you were talking about KDE 4 weren't you?15:23
LjLWaltzingAlong: you aren't a bot are you?15:23
Chairman_Wowcan anyone help?15:23
abeswanfl: i am wondering the same15:23
WaltzingAlongLjLno15:23
flaccid!anyone15:23
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?15:23
Jucatoflaccid: he already asked ifyou haven't noticed15:24
spirooLJL: It was why I wrote "standards" and not standards.15:24
flaccidi was expecting a better factoid15:24
WaltzingAlongLjL: just have quick ways to put some things in the channel (was very helpful for when 7.10 was released and the bots were down or extremely slow)15:24
flaccidlike 'someone will help if they can'15:24
Jucato<spiroo> Sound, Graphics, Standards (Not create new ones), better Office like KOffice, Network support should be better, Photoshop or anything which has the same GUI would be great, Something like Daemon-Tools, better torrent-tools and so on .... <---- no you didn't say "Standards" :)15:24
LjLspiroo: well, then perhaps i misunderstood you - but if you're looking for support for those "standards", that has little to nothing to do with KDE 415:24
spirooKDE and Kubuntu is quite tight up I guess.15:24
LjLWaltzingAlong: i see, i just hope you aren't triggered by ! :)15:25
swanflwhy is there no K menu in beta3?15:25
JucatoChairman_Wow: have you made sure Pre-released updates is enabled in Adept?15:25
flaccidubuntu prod = beta software :p15:25
WaltzingAlongLjL: :D15:25
Jucatoswanfl: short answer there really isn't one15:25
WaltzingAlongflaccid: all software = beta software?15:25
LjLspiroo, Kubuntu uses KDE, but they're definitely separate entities... stuff like MP3 and Flash is to be supported (or not) by Kubuntu, not by KDE15:25
swanflhi Jucato nice to see you15:25
flaccidno it doesnt15:25
spirooOkay, hmm I guess we kind misunderstood each other here. Mostly from my side I guess.15:25
swanflso in order to beate test this, I have to know the program names?15:25
swanflbeta*15:26
WaltzingAlongswanfl: sure or you can run a full session15:26
Chairman_WowJucato: didn't think you had to do that.15:26
Jucatospiroo: and specially we try not to support proprietary, non-open "standards" (which are only standards because of massive usage, not by any technical standards)15:26
JucatoChairman_Wow: if you followed the guide, you'd see that you have to :)15:26
swanflWaltzingAlong, I am running a full session15:26
swanflit finally shows a taskbar, but i can't do a thing with it15:27
Chairman_WowGuide says "Enable the "Recommended updates" and "Proposed updates" repository, close and reload"15:27
JucatoChairman_Wow: which guide?15:27
Chairman_Wowhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade15:27
JucatoChairman_Wow: yeah propsed = pre-release15:27
WaltzingAlongJucato: so we need to rethink the details in the layer of abstraction we want users to use and know?15:27
miirMy USB-drive (Harddrive 320gb) does no mount when I plug it into the computer , as it used to do under Ubuntu... I hear the drive spin up but nothing happens ... any ideas ?15:28
abeswanfl: where do you put the exports lines in startkde? at the top? i mean before trap 'echo?15:28
JucatoWaltzingAlong: huh? what?15:28
spirooBut I mean like better support for bittorrent, graphics(ps, illustrator, 3d), video (.avi, quicktime, realtime, Windows-shit (I know they suck, but they is there in this world)).15:28
Chairman_WowJucato: Ok, thanks, I'll give it a shot.15:28
Jucatoagain, those are not KDE's areas of concern (at least not directly)15:28
swanflright after #!/bin/bash, directly after15:28
abeswanfl: ok , thanks15:28
WaltzingAlongJucato: the overall view/picture of what is going on with desktop computing via kde or kubuntu;15:29
swanflalso, have they removed the use of the Autostart folder in kde4?15:29
JucatoWaltzingAlong: no. but he was barking on KDE having to support this or that. at least he should be informed properly15:29
abeswanfl: are you in kde4 right now?15:29
WaltzingAlongspiroo: ok so basically an ms windows that is not from ms nor is windows is what you want?15:29
swanflin vmware, yes15:30
kukmanHow I can see the opened sockets ?15:30
Jucatospecially if he keeps on insisting that KDE *must* support these "standards" and features15:30
abei will gonna try it15:30
spirooSome problem in KDE: Languagesupport (Although it is good), the task bar could be done better, windows should autoresize after the content, better support for the graphiccards against the graphics.15:30
kaminixWhat does this error mean? ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host15:30
kaminixI was on just now, just exited to get color prompt. :s15:30
WaltzingAlongJucato: i asked what he wanted or what was missing, yeah15:30
Jucatospiroo: the first 3 are actively worked on. the last one is more a Linux driver problem15:30
spirooWaltzingAlong: Just to make it clear: I HATE Microsoft and Windows, especially Vista15:31
JucatoWaltzingAlong: basically he wants stuff that KDE itself cannot provide or does not handle15:31
Jucatooh yes, and with that hate comes the mentality of "anything shiny = wannabe Vista"15:31
abei am in kde4 :)15:31
swanflok15:31
WaltzingAlongJucato: and part of the 'kde' this or kubuntu that or ubuntu this, is for some more confusing that it needs to be. technical details that desktop users really need not know15:31
JucatoWaltzingAlong: it's a case to case situation. I don't always try to inform users15:32
WaltzingAlongi was hoping to use it as a view from the outside, not so much as a platform to explain details15:32
abebut theres no menu15:32
spirooJucato: Haha no, anything shiny != Wanna Be Vista. It is the look and feeling. Moslty the glas effects and transaprent things.15:32
abejaja15:32
Jucatook...15:32
Jucatooh yes, and with that hate comes the mentality of "anything shiny, transparent, or glassy = wannabe Vista"15:32
WaltzingAlonghm which came first ... compiz or vista ...15:32
Jucato(despite the fact that compiz was before aero)15:33
swanflthe average dumb user is gonna want a menu15:33
Jucatoswanfl: there will be a menu!15:33
WaltzingAlongJucato: exactly15:33
swanflI guess I should wait till the official release?15:33
Jucatoa beta3 is not exactly something the average dumb user is gonna want to setup and use on his own15:33
abei have a problem ith plasma, plasma appletexplorer not find15:33
swanfli found that too abe15:33
Jucatoabe: hm. yes that's an old bug... I thought I had that fixed before beta315:34
Tm_Tabe: thats what you get with unstable ;)15:34
Jucato(or rather poked aseigo to fix it)15:34
spirooJucato: Does not matter, Microsoft is so big so the thing is that Vista SHOWS more on peoples computers. It get more attention. I does not say Vista (Aero) was first.15:34
WaltzingAlongswanfl: :D no need to jump to dump but sure i know plenty of desktop computers that consider the computer to have an application so long as there is an icon to it (shortcut) on the desktop (ie not considering the menus as a way to get to them and certainly not considering typing names to start them)15:34
DaNi`M1hello, in kubuntu, who command is same function than gksudo in ubuntu?15:34
WaltzingAlongDaNi`M1: kdesu or kdesudo15:34
Tm_T!kdesudo15:34
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo15:34
Jucatospiroo: that's the implication of "wanna be Vista". that Vista was first and everything else is trying to copy15:34
Jucatoeither way this has gone offtopic too much15:34
WaltzingAlongJucato: but that is similar to linux this and that when most of gnu was first15:35
Tm_TJucato: I was just coming to that =)15:35
DaNi`M1WaltzingAlong: thanks :)15:35
WaltzingAlong!ot :D15:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ot :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:35
JucatoWaltzingAlong: if you say so. I stopped arguing 5 seconds ago15:35
spirooOkay, Sorry "Vista-Feeling" then :D15:35
* WaltzingAlong had not been arguing15:35
abe!plasma15:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:35
Jucatoif you prefer not to educate some users when the opportunity arrives, so let it be15:35
* Jucato shuts up now15:36
DaNi`M1WaltzingAlong: kdesu wine '/home/millen/.wine/drive_c/Archivos de programa/Adobe Photoshop CS2/Photoshop.exe'15:36
DaNi`M1is good?15:36
LeeJunFanugh, I can't believe anyone would think dolphin a better filemanager than konqueror.15:36
spirooAnyway, does anybody know if Photoshop will be arriving for Linux?15:36
WaltzingAlongyou need kdesu for that? should be able to do that with just wine15:36
LjLDaNi`M1: why on earth would you run wine with kdesu?15:36
swanflI'll stick to 3.5.8 thank you very much15:36
Jucato!d3lphin | LeeJunFan15:36
ubotuLeeJunFan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.15:36
WaltzingAlongspiroo: ask adobe15:36
LjLspiroo: i doubt it.15:36
DaNi`M1WaltzingAlong: without kdesu not run...15:36
JucatoLeeJunFan: that is not the real dolphin btw15:36
WaltzingAlongDaNi`M1: then you may have installed photoshop incorrectly into wine, perhaps using sudo or kdesu for that?15:37
LeeJunFanJucato: I know, I'm just saying there are so many reasons to like konqueror more.15:37
DaNi`M1incorretly?15:37
DaNi`M1i installed wine with sudo...15:37
JucatoLeeJunFan: if you've tried the real Dolphin in KDE 4, some of those reasons would disappear (but I still love Konqueror more)15:37
abemmm someone use konqueror as a browser?15:37
LeeJunFandolpin takes up too much real-estate on the screen with crap when you are working on 1024x768.15:37
LjLDaNi`M1: did you install *photoshop* with sudo?15:38
spirooThere is a huge questioning about that. Is the applicaiton most users want to have and the strongest thing people is stick with Windows. Even me. I should dump Windows here and know if I got Photoshop CS 3 would work.15:38
LeeJunFanJucato: yeah, that one's better. Still - I'm with you on konq.15:38
WaltzingAlongDaNi`M1: sure sudo aptitude install wine       but once wine is on there, to install photoshop, wine setup.exe15:38
DaNi`M1LjL I install photoshop import registers of windows15:38
LjLLeeJunFan: uh? one of the reasons i use dolphin is precisely because it tends to be much smaller - much more like old-style Mac Finder or Amiga Workbench15:38
LjLDaNi`M1: eh?15:38
spirooI never got Photoshop get working fully in wine.15:38
DaNi`M1i not install photoshop with wine automatically15:39
LjLDaNi`M1: you've copied your Photoshop folder from Windows?15:39
WaltzingAlongspiroo: i had photoshop 7 working with wine15:39
DaNi`M1i install photohop copy/paste of windows and import they registers15:39
LjLthat will hardly work.15:39
DaNi`M1key registers15:39
LjLDaNi`M1: anyway, sudo chown -R your-user-name:your-user-name ~15:39
spirooWorking yes, but did it work all the way?15:39
WaltzingAlongspiroo: of course15:40
VSpikehow can I control which sound device the adobe flash plugin will use?  Does it use OSS or alsa?15:40
DaNi`M1mmmmmmmm, ok LjL15:40
DaNi`M1i try15:40
WaltzingAlongspiroo: what do you do that you want to use photoshop cs3? graphic designer?15:40
spirooAnyway, The new CS versions of Adobes popular apps has some features, MANY that the previous versions cannot handle15:41
shadowhywindhay all just a quick question, when ever i used kdesu i keep getting this error Error: "/tmp/kde-shadowhywind" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Any ideas?15:41
Jucatoshadowhywind: known bug15:41
Jucatothey're trying to fix it...15:41
spirooI want good color support, good GUI, good vector support, good text support and so on ...15:42
shadowhywindoh k, so just ignore it at the moment then. *Doesn't seam to cause any issues for me *15:42
Kachnabuds,can i configure kopete to ever blink if there are unread events? i mean, if i have unread stuff and exit kopete,it's impossible to find out who wrote me :/15:42
Jucatoit shouldn't (much)...15:42
spirooI mostly do websites in Photoshop, but even editing Photos as well.15:42
Jucatospiroo: just wondering, have you tried Krita?15:43
spirooYes15:43
spirooI am allergic to the GUI15:43
Jucatothe GIMP?15:43
Daisuke_Laptopthen your other choice is the GIMP15:43
spirooyes15:43
Daisuke_Laptop:)15:43
spiroono15:43
Jucatohm... really? Krita's GUI is closer to Photoshop than GIMP's... :)15:44
Jucatooh well...15:44
Jucatodifferent strokes for different folks15:44
spirooKrita is better, yes15:44
Daisuke_Laptopfor certain values of better15:44
WaltzingAlongspiroo: krita is better at matching photoshop's interface?15:44
Daisuke_Laptopand even then that's *very* subjective15:44
spirooI mean they is not bad. But they have a GUI I cannot work good with.15:45
Jucatoyeah it takes getting used to. specially if you try to see everything in the standards of Photoshop...15:45
spirooIt is also about the functions, not only the GUI. I am not shallow15:46
Daisuke_Laptopif it's about the functions, you wouldn't have a problem with the gimp.15:46
Jucatoor the GUI...15:47
Jucatobah nvm :)15:47
spirooYes I am quite sticked and in love with PS. But the GUI in GIMP and Krita, No I do not like it.15:47
WaltzingAlongwell there can become a 'known way to interface' with certain systems; how many use something other than a steering wheel in automobiles, for example15:47
Jucatobut I thought it's about the functions :)15:47
* Jucato really leaves now15:47
WaltzingAlongit was when my other argument was not working15:47
spirooyes also they is a problem, especially layer support.15:48
spirooIt is not easy to work with layers and vectors as it should be. Which I think Photoshop has.15:48
Daisuke_Laptopit's not as easy as *you think* it should be.15:49
Daisuke_Laptopall subjective.15:49
spirooMaybe I guess15:49
ubuntul15:49
spirooBut Photoshop is a really good application. It is used by people all around the world. You cannot argue against that. But yes Krita is a bit of getting better.15:50
spirooAnd I hope you do not think I am thinking the applications in Linux is bad. They are good, but not as good I want it to be.15:51
LeeJunFanI prefer gimp to krita still.15:52
speed89ciao15:52
spirooanyway have to go, cya laters bros15:54
abe!es15:55
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.15:55
WaltzingAlongfor whom?15:56
abethe es thing?15:56
WaltzingAlongyup15:57
abefor me15:57
abe:)15:57
WaltzingAlong:D15:57
WaltzingAlongwondered if i was lagged15:57
abelol15:57
agresor      The Apache module mod_actions is either not installed or not enabled.15:58
agresoranyone know how to enable this ?15:58
xushihi all,15:58
WaltzingAlonga2enmod agresor15:58
WaltzingAlong!hi | xushi15:58
ubotuxushi: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:58
wastedfluidHey, is the version of kmil that comes w/ 7.10 kmilo-4.3.5-8-0?15:58
xushihow stable is kubuntu on vmware (6) ? I find programs in it always stopping to respond, like eclipse updater etc.. even the system panel sometimes..15:59
xushiit just tries to open, with that busy bar, and that's it.. hangs there15:59
agresorWaltzingAlong,  what is it name there..15:59
agresorit is not mod_action15:59
WaltzingAlongagresor: actions15:59
abeeclipse ? i never try that, mmm i gonna try15:59
WaltzingAlonga2enmod then tab tab to see the list16:00
agresorWaltzingAlong,16:01
agresorModule actions installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.16:01
agresorthen i reload .. but still error16:01
agresorThe Apache module mod_actions is either not installed or not enabled.16:01
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WaltzingAlongagresor: otherwise i do not know about configuring apache16:03
agresoroke16:03
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LeeJunFanAnyone know if the kde4 in gutsy is in the standard universe repos? I see the date on those packages is a week old compared to the release date of beta3 on the 19th.16:06
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babeckLeeJunFan: When installing KDE 4, I install only the universe packages that have the same version as the main packages.  That seems to work fairly well.16:08
LEE986321guys why is it when i try to login i get this?/msg: Unknown command.16:08
WaltzingAlongLeeJunFan: yes kde4beta3 is in standard repos for gutsy16:08
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LEE986321never mnd I ha d to clear the stupid clip board thing16:10
LEE986321oh say that reminds  me I get an error on    my system saying tht I need to activate composite...what is it talkitn aobut?16:11
LEE986321 and then I get thess lines when i ask the pc...The program 'composite' can be found in the following packages: * imagemagick * graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat   Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package> What program do I select?16:14
arashHI, can any1 recommend a DC++ cleint? I can't say I'm too pleased with dcgui and dc-qt seems not to be able to have several slots16:16
WaltzingAlongLEE986321: composite probably refers to a section in xorg.conf16:16
WaltzingAlong!compiz | LEE98632116:16
ubotuLEE986321: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion16:16
tysonswhow can I find out  if I am using fiesty or gutsy?16:17
frederic_hello. what are the commands to get the hdisk part informations (hda1 is /usr hda3 is /home etc ) ??16:18
frederic_tx16:18
pagtysonsw, lsb_release -a16:18
tysonswpag: thx16:18
WaltzingAlongfrederic_: mount ?16:19
Hiekkohello16:19
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astanhello. i'm about to upgrade to gutsy, but when i do Adept->Manage Repositories, it doesn't look like screenshot 3 at http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/ at all.. i only have a view of sources.list there..16:19
astansorry i mean snapshot 2 at that URL.16:19
dudeiclesgood morning all.16:20
WaltzingAlongupgrading kubuntu? from feisty (7.04) be sure software-properties-kde is installed (sudo aptitude install software-properties-kde) then follow the upgrade instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade16:20
frederic_tx WaltzingAlong (sometimes easy things become sooo uneasy ;) )16:20
WaltzingAlongastan: check that16:20
astanWaltzingAlong: thanks!16:20
dudeiclesI have an install (Grapevine) that won't finish. And now every time I upgrade it messes up because this program won't install correctly.16:20
dudeiclesis there a way to delete that install from happening again?16:21
ashfaqIs it possible for me to run the new ubuntu gnome desktop as an alternative?16:21
WaltzingAlongashfaq: yes. install ubuntu-desktop then at the log in sceen, select the gnome session16:22
WaltzingAlongdudeicles: from a .deb?16:22
ashfaqI have installed kde gutsy, I have been told you can have the features of gnome also! what is the command pl!16:22
tysonswquick help.. what should I write to change the sources.list.. if I remember correct it is kate /etc/apt/sources.list.. but there were something like kdes before.. am I correct?16:22
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: kdesu16:22
dudeiclesYou know what I think I did16:22
WaltzingAlong!kdesu | tysonsw16:23
ubotutysonsw: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo16:23
tysonswWaltzingAlong I have gutsy now but yet the fiesty command works16:23
dudeiclesjust now every time i try to install anything it asks to install  grapevine16:24
WaltzingAlongtysonsw: yeah both work just the intent was to migrate from kdesu to kdesudo16:24
tysonswWaltzingAlong hehe.. ok :P16:24
ashfaqWaltzing : what would be the command for ubuntu-desktop in kansole16:24
WaltzingAlongashfaq: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop16:24
kaminixWhere are passwords stored on Linux systems?16:24
taylanhi all16:24
WaltzingAlongkaminix: passwords for what16:24
WaltzingAlong!hi | taylan16:25
ubotutaylan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!16:25
dudeicleshow can I cancel all pending installations?16:25
kaminixWaltzingAlong: User passwords.16:25
ashfaqThanks dear waltzing!16:25
WaltzingAlongkaminix: /etc/shadow ?16:25
taylani am using kubuntu gutsy and i want to use compiz16:25
astanWaltzingAlong: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade <-- hm. step 4: "If your system is up to date, the upgrade wizard will be offered after you click "Fetch Updates" via the "Version Upgrade" button, else..".. but i can't find any "Version Upgrade" button.. where is it?16:26
WaltzingAlongastan: you can run kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade" to force the button to show16:26
WaltzingAlong!compiz | taylan16:26
ubotutaylan: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion16:26
taylanthx16:26
WaltzingAlongdudeicles: perhaps  sudo dpkg -r grapevine ?16:27
astanWaltzingAlong: hm. ok.16:27
FOADOkay, I just upgraded to gutsy, and stuff finally works, which is cool./16:28
WaltzingAlongFOAD: welcome16:28
FOADHowever, the external (USB) drives don't show up when booting anymore, how do I fix that?16:28
FOADWaltzingAlong: thanks16:28
astanWaltzingAlong: hm. nothing happens, the console just sits there when i run that command :/16:28
b01kahow do I run the desktop effects in kubuntu 7.1016:29
b01ka?16:29
WaltzingAlong!compiz | b01ka16:29
ubotub01ka: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion16:29
saloxhi, i need a little help. I installed Kubuntu 7.10 , and the GIMP version is 2.4.0-rc3 and i want to install GIMP 2.2.17 because is faster. What i need to do pls?16:29
astanWaltzingAlong: and when i try sudo adept_manager --dist-upgrade instead, it says "adept_manager: Okänd väljare "--dist-upgrade".", that is.. unknown flag :/16:30
FOADWhen I plug in a usb drive after booting, every external drive shows up on the desktop16:31
FOADHowever, still not mounted - I have to click on them to mount16:31
FOADI would like them to just show up, mounted, on booting.16:31
saloxhi, i need a little help. I installed Kubuntu 7.10 , and the GIMP version is 2.4.0-rc3 and i want to install GIMP 2.2.17 because is faster. What i need to do pls?16:31
Jucatoastan: that's: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"16:33
Jucato(take note of where the quotes are, it's important)16:33
astanJucato: yea i figured that out now.. however after i've pressed the Version Upgrade button, and clicked my way through and then Finish, nothing happens :/16:33
Jucatohm...16:34
astanit says "Ready to upgrade.. etc... click finish to ... and launch the distribution upgrade tool.", but when i do, nothing happens..16:34
FOADNo-one knows?16:35
astanJucato: ah nevermind.16:36
Olando!it16:36
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:36
jim_Hi all, looking for some help - I reinstalled 7.04 - got all my DVD players etc up and running, but after a reboot the system does not recognise my cds or dvds? All help is greatly appreciated ;)16:36
astanJucato: it couldn't connect to X since i was running using sudo instead of kdesu..16:36
Olando!pt16:36
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.16:36
* Jucato did say "kdesu"16:36
astanbut for some reason when i run kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade", nothing happens.16:36
astanyea. i just thought i could use sudo instead since nothing happened when i used kdesu, it won't show up.16:37
Jucatoyou used --dist-upgrade earlier16:37
astanJucato: yea, but after checking with --help i noticed that WalzerSomething was wrong and that it was --version-upgrade.. so i'm using that now.16:38
astannow i'm trying exactly: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"16:38
astanweird..16:38
MekzholanHi, how can I make Thunderbird my default mailer (and not KMail)? The net has many descriptions for Ubuntu - but that aren't working for me...16:39
taylani hve already installed compiz on kubuntu gutsy but i dont know how to get it work16:39
astanhm. launching another terminal and running the command there instead for some reason worked..16:39
astanah. now it's running.16:39
JucatoMekzholan: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Email Client16:39
astanthanks Jucato.16:39
Jucatono problem16:39
b01kawhen I run the command: "compiz --replace" I get: ""16:40
b01kaChecking for Xgl: not present.16:40
b01kaNo whitelisted driver found16:40
b01kaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity16:40
b01kano /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting16:40
b01kaany ideas?16:40
b01kamy video card is installed correclty16:41
ardchoilleb01ka: This is in gnome?16:41
b01kanu kde16:41
MekzholanJucato: that doesn't allways work :( E.g. right click in Konquerer and "Send as EMail" still opens KMail16:41
ardchoilleI'm wondering why it mentions metacity and not kwin16:41
JucatoMekzholan: ah that particular problem is only specific to Konqueror's right-click Send as Email menu16:42
MekzholanJaucato: ok . that leaves 2 questions: 1) how can I change it? 2) why isn't that menu careing about my system settings?16:43
ardchoilleMekzholan: Is that under "Actions" in the right click menu?16:43
JucatoMekzholan: I can only answer #2: it's specifically written to launch KMail16:44
FOADNo-one can help me with the USB drive problem?16:44
Mekzholanardchoille: yea16:44
Jucatoit's a Konqueror servicemenu.16:45
ardchoilleMekzholan: I write service menus and have been looking for that so I can change it, but it isn't in  /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/16:45
LEE986321!composite16:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:45
Jucatoit's an editable textfile actually16:45
Jucatoardchoille: try /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/-------16:45
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Jucatoforgot the exact path16:45
ardchoilleJucato: Yeah, "locate" just gave me that path16:46
Jucato:)16:46
paolopoz12help! how can I remove a damaged packet?16:46
Jucatoardchoille: then you could probably help Mekzholan more16:46
Stonkihello, when starting "compiz" on kubuntu 7.10 the window symbols for "close, move etc" is disappearing. Any chance to keep this ?16:46
Jucatoardchoille: and another hunch, you could probably make use of xdg-email (but requires xdg-utils to be installed)16:46
hydrogenpaolopoz12: a packetGun!16:46
abe!compiz16:47
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion16:47
ardchoilleMekzholan: it's in the file /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/email.desktop . you'll have to open that file in kate and change it16:47
pagpaolopoz12, " sudo dpkg -r package "16:47
hydrogenJucato: kfmclient exec mailto:/ should work16:47
paolopoz12hydrogen: is it a program to install?16:47
LEE986321Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>* imagemagick or* graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat which one do i select?16:47
Jucatohydrogen: service menu? kool16:47
LEE986321eh to get the effects running?16:47
paolopoz12pag: this doesn't work.16:47
abeStonki: did you install that compiz-kde emerald16:47
Stonkilet me check...16:48
Stonkiabe: yes16:48
xehnidahello, Kopete always say that my passwd is wrong. any idea?16:48
Stonkisoory..16:48
hydrogenand actually Mekzholan.. you sohuld copy that file to ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus and edit it there16:48
Stonkiabe: no emerald16:48
hydrogenor it will be overwritten16:48
pagpaolopoz12, pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ) the output of " sudo apt-get -f install " please16:48
ubuntu_Hi everyone!16:48
abeStonki:  sudo aptitude install emerald16:48
abe:)16:48
LEE986321!composite16:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:49
Stonkiabe: that was it. Thanks !16:50
Stonkiany chance to run compiz by default ?16:50
paolopoz12pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41540/16:50
LEE986321waht do I do to enable the effects?16:51
StonkiI have to start it manually after starting kde16:51
LEE986321in kde16:51
abe!compiz | Stonki16:51
ubotuStonki: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion16:51
pagpaolopoz12, oh.. one of those.. I can't help you, sorry.16:52
paolopoz12pag: thanks anyway :-)16:53
rami__I need help with limewire, i cant use it since i upgraded it to 7.10, why?16:53
paolopoz12is there a way to manual modify the dpkg db?16:53
rami__!java16:53
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.16:53
LEE986321!imagemagick16:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imagemagick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:53
LEE986321!graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat16:54
pag!info imagemagick | LEE98632116:54
ubotulee986321: imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 722 kB, installed size 3156 kB16:54
afd_hi! I'm looking to migrate from thunderbird to kmail, I'm looking for a spam filterin solution. Any pointers?16:54
LEE986321oh16:55
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LEE986321pag is this the one that I need to load?16:55
pagLEE986321, depends.. what are you trying to achieve?16:55
LEE986321pag getting rid of the rror that says i need to enable Composite16:56
LEE986321and to ekkep the effects form crashing16:56
JucatoComposite extension in xorg.conf16:57
pagLEE986321, afaik imagemagick has nothing to do with effects... you could instal it, but I'm not sure if it helps16:57
LEE986321pag trying to acheive the abillity to use fading windows and other "eye candy16:57
Jucato<Jucato> Composite extension in xorg.conf16:57
pag!compiz | LEE98632116:57
ubotuLEE986321: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion16:57
gi000hi. i can't get kdm to work. my system halts at the command line login16:57
LEE986321eh never mind the bot got it lol16:58
gi000anyone has any idea?16:59
shezaanI want to increase my screen resolution beyond the maximum allowed 1024x768, I tried editing the xorg.conf but all in vain. Any ideas?16:59
spimorthi all16:59
shezaanI am using Geforce 6200 graphics adapter with their very newest driver17:00
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tekteenanyone here know how to find out witch package contains a certain file.17:02
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shezaanpackages.ubuntu.com17:02
ardchoilleshezaan: I have that same card and driver. I changed the res with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then restarted x17:02
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martoyatekteen: packages.ubuntu.com17:02
harry__heyho anyone speaking german here?17:03
shezaanuse the second search option17:03
* ubuntu_ 17:03
shezaannot the search for packages17:03
abe!de17:03
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:03
* ubuntu_ kill17:03
harry__kk thx17:03
ardchoilletekteen: dpkg -S file17:03
Jucatoardchoille: only works if the packages is installed17:04
ardchoilleJucato: :(17:04
shezaanthanks ardchoille I trid that too it doesn't work for me17:04
Jucatoyou can use apt-file if you want to do something like that without going to packages.ubuntu.com17:04
thcmonkeyis changing the res in kubuntu the same process as it is in ubuntu?17:04
surfaceanyone here caught X crashed, black screen after logout to kdm?17:04
ardchoilleJucato: Thanks17:04
ardchoillethcmonkey: Should be17:05
Jucatoshezaan: dpkg -S file only works if the package to which the file belongs to is installed. you can use apt-file (you have to install it first) as an alternative17:05
MinatakuWhen you log out, X11 terminates17:05
MinatakuThen kdm will restart it17:05
MinatakuThat's normal behavior17:05
dorkfaceI wanted to test out virtual keyboard, and while it worked fine, it keeps starting up whenever I reboot the system.  Where can I go to disable a program from running at login?17:05
shezaanthcmonkey: it should17:05
thcmonkeycheers17:05
gi000kdm doesn't work for me. i have no idea why17:05
Jucatodorkface: completely quit the app when you logout17:06
surfaceMinataku: it becomes black screen and not coming back, all keyboard, mouse lost functioning17:06
gi000can't even reconfigure it17:06
MinatakuIt's also not a crash, it exits with errno 0, which is almost universally used to mean "Success"17:06
dorkfaceI right click, and quit it, but it still comes up17:06
MinatakuOr "No Error"17:06
MinatakuOh17:06
surfacethe only thing i can do is, reset the power17:06
MinatakuHave you tried Ctrl+Alt+BkSp ?17:06
surfaceMinataku: not working17:07
MinatakuIf that fails, try Alt+SysRq+K17:07
surfaceall keyboard function gone17:07
surfaceSysRq ?17:07
surfaceoh, that i haven't tried17:07
MinatakuWhich, if the kernel is responding and the video system hasn't gone completely inconsistent, should terminate everything on that terminal17:07
surfacei even tried to ctrl+alt+f1, but what i know is keyboard doesn't response at all17:08
surfaceeven caplock key17:08
MinatakuIf THAT fails, then try an emergency reset, hit Alt+SysRq+S, wait 10 seconds, hit Alt+SysRq+U, wait 10 seconds, then hit Alt+SysRq+B17:08
surfacenormally if i press caplock key, the lights on17:08
MinatakuThis will sync, unmount and remount r/o, then reboot17:08
dorkfaceThat happened to me as well, all I could do is reboot the system17:08
ardchoilleMinataku , surface: it might be related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/12991017:08
Kachnahttp://www.pastebin.cz/show/2189 << what am i missing pls17:09
ardchoilleThat bug is the reason I have no tty 1-617:09
surfaceardchoille: thx, let me check it out17:09
MinatakuAh, yeah, if the CapsLock key doesn't light, then you're stuck17:09
abei didn't have tty before then i reinstall and they come back17:09
surfaceis it a problem of kdm or X server or kernel?17:10
jan_Ich will nen treiber installieren,dann kommt allerdings die meldung: permission denied  ich muss das als root installieren, wie meld' ich mich als root an?17:10
MinatakuDunno17:10
MinatakuIt could be a combination of X11 and the kernel17:10
abeMinataku: what alt+sysrq+s does?17:10
MinatakuAlt+SysRq+S performs a sync17:10
MinatakuThe exact same thing that happens when you type "sync"17:11
MinatakuOr every so often by the kernel as a normal process17:11
shezaandoes anyone know of a way to manually edit the xorg.conf so that I can go beyond the max screen resolution  of 1024x768 without running dpkg-reconfigure xorg17:11
surfaceardchoille: diff case, mine, keyboard totally lost function17:11
jan_i need to install graphic drivers, but I the error message "permission denied" - in need to install the driver as a root - how do i become root-rights?17:11
MinatakuThe SysRq method is called "Emergency Sync" and is used when you're unable to sync by typing it at a shell17:11
markus__jan_: unter kubuntu kann man sich nicht als root anmelden17:11
ardchoilleshezaan: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:12
Minataku!de17:12
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:12
markus__jan_: öffne ein Terminal als root17:12
jan_und was kann ich nu machen?17:12
shezaanI know that ardchoille but with what values17:12
MinatakuSince I'm sure it'll be more conveinent for you in your native language17:12
surfaceMinataku: haha for my case i am not even can press that button17:12
jan_terminal= konsole?17:12
shezaanand which subsections?17:12
surfacebesides that , i am happy with the new kubuntu17:12
ardchoilleshezaan: That command opens the file in kate as root. You have to put the correct values in yourself17:12
MinatakuHaha17:13
abethanks Minataku for the explanation, by the way that !de was for a guy call harry__, i am spanish17:13
markus__jan_:ja, aber wir müssen in den deutschsprachigen Channel wechseln17:13
Minataku"Sure, it doesn't work right, completely screws up if I do this or that, but hey, it's great!"17:13
MinatakuXD17:13
shezaanardchoille: is it possible for you to email me your xorg.conf17:13
ardchoilleshezaan: no17:13
jan_channelname?17:13
Minataku!es17:13
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.17:13
ardchoilleshezaan: If you look at that file, it's easy to figure out what to put in it17:13
MinatakuJust type ! and the two letter country code17:14
abe!pastebin | ardchoille17:14
ubotuardchoille: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:14
shezaanardchoille: believe me all the common sense stuff I already tried17:14
jan_! de17:14
MinatakuIf there's a channel for that language, then the bot will tell you what it is17:14
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:14
jan_!de17:14
ardchoilleabe: Please don't do that17:14
markus__jan_: kubuntu-de mit Gartenhag vornendran17:14
shezaanardchoille: I need to see exactly what needs to be changed17:14
MinatakuThough it's usually always [k]ubuntu-(country code)17:14
shezaanI already tried putting in my value of 1440x90017:15
shezaanardchoille: your xorg.conf will help me a lot. Trust me I am not going to try and spam you or anything17:16
abepastebin | shezaan17:17
abe!pastebin | shezaa17:17
ubotushezaa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:17
surfaceEmergency Syncbrb17:17
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ardchoilleshezaan: http://pastebin.ca/74454117:17
ardchoilleabe: Please stop that17:17
shezaanawesome  thanks a million17:18
ardchoilleyw17:18
rubikcubehi, is there a selection of the most wanted/annoying gutsy bugs?17:18
Minataku!bugs17:19
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots17:19
abeubotu is great17:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is great - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:21
abeajaja17:21
martex_Damn, Distribution Update Tool crashes: "Sorry, the program "dpkg-preconfigure closed unexpectedly." I'm trying to update from Feity Fawn to 7.10. Is there anything I can do?17:21
Mekzholanhydrogen, ardchoille, jucanto: thanks, it works fine! I've copyed the file and changed the content to "Exec=thunderbird -compose attachment='file://%F'"17:21
ardchoilleMekzholan: :)17:21
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abegranoille17:23
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andreahow would i go about making konversation the default irc client instead of kopete?17:24
attunix! #ubuntu-general17:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-general - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:24
spimorthow can i mount my windows partition?17:26
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andreasearch ntfs-3g ubuntu in google17:27
spimortok17:27
lee_Whats this mean composite extension not found, : Must use x.Org  > 6.8 for sahdows and translucencey to work aditionally oyu need to install a new section to you x or files "extensions" option comosite enable.17:27
lee_I downloaded the thing but then my screen went hay wire17:28
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lee_!info composite enable17:29
ubotuPackage composite does not exist in gutsy17:29
spimortif i dont have an ntfs part?17:29
lee_eh how do I get that half then lol17:29
martex_* stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/perl terminated17:30
martex_Segmentation fault (core dumped)17:30
martex_Richte debconf ein (1.5.14ubuntu1) ...17:30
martex_*** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/perl terminated17:30
martex_dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von debconf (--configure):17:30
martex_ Unterprozess post-installation script mit Signal (Segmentation fault), Speicherabbild erzeugt getötet17:30
martex_Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:17:30
martex_ debconf17:30
ardchoille!paste | martex_17:30
ubotumartex_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:30
martex_sorry. I'm a little nervous, distribution update doesn't work. :(17:31
rubikcubejust wait for some weeks ;-)17:31
[ifr0g]!broadcom17:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:32
lee_ok downlaoded both : imagemagick: and :graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat:17:32
[ifr0g]!bcm34xx17:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bcm34xx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:32
lee_somehtings got to kick satrt t his thing17:32
martex_doesnt lokk good, I think when I reboot, it won't come up again.17:32
surface!bulletproofx17:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bulletproofx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:33
kaminix!lamp17:33
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)17:33
moope1hey , my computer keeps freezing up for no aperent reason. can anyone help find out why?17:33
flakeinstalling 7.10 while chatting live using pidgeon on same machine :)17:34
flakejust had to do that, be back later17:36
moope1hey , my computer keeps freezing up for no apparent reason. can anyone help find out why? The mouse disappears and I am left hanging :(17:36
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martex_can I use the installation CD of 7.10 to upgrade my 7.04 installation without having to reinstall it?17:38
martex_not reinstall, renew.17:38
raidproblemCan anyone tell me how to get the restricted driver prompt to show again? I tried to enable nvidia, but it doesn't seem to have done it17:40
clergymanHi! I'm trying to get my laptop's microphone to work.. I can hear myself in it, but when I do arecord -t wav aa.wav , there's nothing in the file17:40
clergymanLike, if I tap the mic, it comes out of my speakers.. so at least something's working :)17:40
Oakboxhi all, does anyone know if there is a channel for OpenSG? or could someone tell me how i can search for a channel?17:43
Aranelhow can I bind the "dir" command to "dir --color" ? I tried aliasing, but when I close&reopen my console window, alias doesn't work.17:49
clergymanAranel: Put it in ~/.bashrc17:50
clergymanThe alias command17:51
Aranelclergyman: alias "dir"="dir --color" ?17:51
clergymanalias dir='dir --color'17:52
rubikcubebut it should work in both versions17:52
Aranelclergyman: thanks :)17:52
clergymannp17:52
ardchoilleAranel: Why not use "ls -a" ?17:54
pavon Gusty has ruined my system , I am unable to get into my system, it says it has got some problem with17:54
pavon "mdadm".17:54
pavon 17:54
pavon Install command for gusty update-manager -c -d.17:54
pavon 17:54
pavon I tried to remove Gusty and reinstall Feisty using alternate disc (ATI x1300 prbs) , but the installation17:54
pavon fails saying it is unable to mount /target /proc blah blah blah.... there is a dirty red screen coming up17:54
pavon just like windows blue screen17:54
pavon 17:54
pavon So here I am, my Gusty installation has failed terribly17:54
pavonsorry17:54
pavonignore that17:54
lee_well taht was quite the enjoyable expeireince nothing but a scrambled screen17:55
* pavon walks out with tail between legs17:55
lee_at leaset the system restet up on restart17:55
lee_Why you walking with your tail tucked pavon17:56
Oakboxhi i dont suppose anyone knows a channel that i can ask questions on openSG??17:58
hydrogenanyone know of 2.6.23 unofficial packages for gutsy?17:59
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shadowhywindhay all having a bit of problems, my wireless connects, and grabs an ip. But i can't connect to websites18:01
pookitoGood afternoon everyonw18:01
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Oakboxhi all anyone know a channel i can ask questions on OpenSG?18:01
pookitoI need some serious help for my homework18:01
pookitocan anyone help me18:02
pookito?18:02
pookitoIt's about stegbreak and a file missing18:02
skull1980__привет18:03
pookitoPlease, please, please18:03
rubikcubehi, what could be the problem with this umount (click onto "safe remove") error? http://pastebin.com/d6073caa818:04
ardchoillerubikcube: It helps if we could read it in English18:04
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lee_eh help?18:05
rubikcubeardchoille: oh, it just tells that umount fails due to the error in line 5 ;-)18:05
flakegot it installed on new harddrive, now what..18:05
lee_I have a composite mannager failure18:05
paolopoz12how can i remove a damaged package?18:05
ardchoillerubikcube: I'm guessing that you don't have permission to umount18:06
lee_!infor compoistmannager failure18:06
flakesudo apt-get remove <package>  ?18:06
rubikcubeardchoille: that's what the error suggests, but it only happened since the gutsy upgrade today, so I'd like to know where those setting might be set18:06
ardchoillelee_: That !info trigger only works with apps/packages, iirc18:06
paolopoz12flake: didn't work. package is damaged18:07
lee_eh oh18:07
yurimxpxmanare there any AVCHD codecs for GNU/Linux?18:07
lee_ardchoille eh I have ammanger failure and trying to figure out how or why its failing18:07
lee_how do I check18:07
paolopoz12is there a way to remove an entry from dpkg db?18:07
ardchoillelee_: google?18:07
pookitoyou see, I was about to use stegbreak and now it is telling me that stegbreak: fopen: /usr/share/stegbreak/rules.ini:18:08
ardchoillepaolopoz12: What does it say when you try to remove it?18:08
lee_eh for a composite failure relating to kubuntu?18:08
ardchoillelee_: yes, google can be a great help18:09
paolopoz12ardchoille: some files are missing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41540/18:09
juanwhat is the default window manager for kde?18:10
ardchoillejuan: kwin18:11
raidproblemkwin I think18:11
clergymankwin18:11
lee_woa wait i fo8nd something.....eh but....need help in what i am seeing18:11
flakeinstalling brother laser printer a breeze :)18:11
juanthanks18:11
lee_I am at display setting and there is a setting that is set for 640x48018:11
lee_it is the compiz aettings mannager18:12
flakeguess 7.10 boots with gnome, I need to install kde?18:15
juliebonjour18:16
juliehttp\\www.kubuntu.fr18:17
Saiedjulie: http\\ ? :D18:17
julieoui je n arrive pas a aller sur le bon18:18
ardchoille!fr18:18
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:18
juliemerci18:18
wertyhow can i find some chatrooms for regular chat?18:19
flakeardchoille - i dont think i can do PM with no registered nick18:19
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ardchoilleflake: ok, looks like you installed from the Ubuntu cd rather than the kubuntu cd.18:20
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ardchoilleflake: You can get kde with: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop18:20
flakeright, must have grabbed the wrong one18:20
coxwerty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat18:20
Sporkhello?18:20
boneDoes anyone have a minute to help with problems upgrading from Fiesty to Gutsy?18:20
flakethanks18:20
ardchoilleyw18:20
draikHow do I convert a JPG to PDF?18:20
flakeshould i go for kde4 beta or normal?18:21
rubikcubehi, I have found a minor bug, but I'm not sure whether to report it at ubuntu or upstream (hal).  When hal mounts devices, it records this in a file called /media/.hal-mtab. If this file is not reset properly (Maybe due to a user not umounting a device properly or simply a simply crash.), hal will think that there's still a device by that user, so any other user will be denied to umount their own18:21
ardchoilleflake: kde4 is barely usable18:21
rubikcubedevices afterwards (hal thinks the device belongs to someone else)18:21
flakei want to run desklets or screenlets without a black border around them18:21
flakelike not having a round clock with a black box behind it18:22
surfacedraik:  paste to open office writer and save as pdf ?18:22
boneHas anyone had problems with the Distribution Upgrade hanging while "installing the upgrades"?18:23
SporkI'm trying to install kubuntu on an old lap top I have laying around but it won't worl, can anyone help?18:23
rubikcubeSpork: what does not work?18:23
Sporkwhen i try to install it18:23
ardchoilleI like how you narrowed it down, lol18:24
SporkIt worked on the newer one I have but... lol sorry18:24
rubikcube!question18:24
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)18:24
rubikcubehmm, wrong factoid18:24
ardchoilleSpork: how much ram and how big is the hd?18:24
SporkNo clue xD let me check18:25
boneWhile running the Distribution Upgrade from FF to GG, the process got hung up while "installing the upgrades"18:25
ardchoilleSpork: If it's an older machine, you might be better off installing xubuntu.. or maybe the server install and building up from there using a window manager like fluxbox18:25
rubikcubebone: I had it here, but after a reboot, the rest of the install went smoothly18:25
Sporkumm... well I can't really do anything with it because the mouse was disabled =(. Thanks for the help though18:26
boneOk, I'll give it a shot.  I wasn't sure if a reboot would goof it up worse.  I'll give it a shot, though.  Thanks.18:26
Hiekkohello again18:27
rubikcubebone: it nearly completely froze... so there was no other thing to do18:27
juanis there a wiki where to learn how to create a new session specially for compiz?18:27
tysonswI need a little help.. how can i go to kubuntu from ubuntu18:27
Hiekkocan anyone help me? cant install network_manager_openVPN ..18:27
ardchoilletysonsw:  You can get kde with: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop18:27
colohola18:27
tysonswardchoille thx18:28
ardchoilleyw18:28
coloi have a problem with kopete18:28
coloanybody can help me?18:28
ardchoillecolo: It won't connect to msn?18:28
rubikcube!give colo question18:28
coloit does not connect and it throws an error message18:28
ardchoillecolo: Only when connecting to msn? or with any connection?18:29
coloi just tried connecting to msn18:29
ardchoillecolo: That's a known issue, no fix yet.18:29
ardchoillecolo: I can't connect to msn either, but yahoo, icq and aim all work fine18:30
colook, thanks, what im programm would you recommend?18:30
coloamsn?18:30
ardchoilleI don't really know im that well to make a recommendation18:30
rubikcubecan pidgeon speak msn?18:30
ardchoilleI'm just waiting for the bugfix18:30
SporkHow do install18:31
ardchoillerubikcube: Good question18:31
Sporknever mind18:31
colowhere are you from guys?18:31
Oakboxardchoille: there is a fix out there i have the deb but cant remember the web page18:31
Oakboxardchoille: it will be out when the repos is un frosen18:32
ardchoilleOakbox: Ah, ok18:32
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SporkHow do I install "install_flash_player_9_linux"?18:33
ardchoilleSpork: I recommend you stick with the repos to install things.18:33
ardchoille!flash18:33
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash18:33
Sporkrepos?18:34
ardchoille!repos | Spork18:34
ubotuSpork: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu18:34
SporkThank you!18:34
ardchoilleyw18:34
h3sp4wnSpork: Just stick it in ~/,mozilla/plugins18:37
h3sp4wnSpork: won't do any harm there18:37
ardchoilleh3sp4wn: And when it gets updates, his package manager won't automatically update it.18:38
ardchoilles/updates/updates and bugfixes/18:38
h3sp4wnardchoille: In a stable release flash won't be updated18:38
Sporkwell... all I have is the Konqueror Web Browser.18:39
ardchoilleh3sp4wn: hence the replacement :)18:39
coloany eclipse user here?18:39
h3sp4wnardchoille: Just as easy to just update it every so often (or when a site is unreliable for you)18:40
lee_eh guys, is comp fusion a step to have A 3d vr apsect of  a system?18:40
lee_form viewng the u tube videos taht is exactly waht it reminds me of18:41
ardchoilleh3sp4wn: The recommended way (not to mention the safe way) is to let the package manager deal with it.18:41
mohamedhi guys i'm newbie in linux and I want to add my IE favorits to firefox bookmarks, can I do that mannually or any suggestions?18:41
octo_now that the kernel shows IDE drives as SCSI, how can you be sure that DMA is working on an IDE drive.  hdparm tells me HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device?18:41
h3sp4wnardchoille: putting something in ~/.mozilla/plugins is 100% safe18:42
coloi have problems with my wireless card? i installed kunbtu 7.10 on an hp dv900018:42
coloany ideas?18:42
fluffmanmohamed: install firefox in windows, and let your IE bookmarks import into FF18:43
h3sp4wnardchoille: The whole purpose of that directory is so that it is safe for the packagemanager18:43
fluffmanthen, copy and paste your mozilla profile from windows to linux18:43
ardchoilleh3sp4wn: circumventing the recommended procedures is never safe.18:43
mohamedthanks man that would help a lot18:43
coloany ideas about problems with broadcomm wireless cards?18:44
colo:(18:44
h3sp4wnardchoille: mindly buying into stuff is never safe either18:44
fluffmanbroadcom should be installed by the restricted package manager18:44
h3sp4wnardchoille: mindlessly buying into stuff18:44
hydrogen!realplayer18:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:44
colowhat about bcm43xx-fwcutter? kubuntu is trying to enable my wireles card wiith that driver18:45
combiniohow to turn OFF in firefox mplayer plug in? that after clicking on some movie it will be downloaded on my hdd and not shown in firefox ? :}18:45
fluffmancolo: yes18:45
fluffmanuse that18:46
coloand it is not working properly18:46
fluffmanreboot18:46
fluffmanand make sure that the card is physically turned on at the switch18:46
SporkI just downloaded Fire Fox but I can't find it.18:46
fluffmanSpork: K Menu > Internet > Firefox18:46
fluffmanif you instlled from the repositories (adept, add/remove programs, etc.)18:47
mohamedhey guys does any body know chat room for java18:48
tysonswI need big help ASAP..  I resently used the command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.. and therefor got ubuntu.. Now I want to go back to kubuntu.. how do I do that?? if I type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop all i get is a message that says that this is already the installed OS18:48
rubikcubemohamed: tried #java or ##java already?18:48
coloi am quite sure taht the card is ok because when it works in windows18:48
coloi uninstalles windows and when i boot with kubuntu18:48
coloit stoppped working18:48
combiniodon't u have ANY problems with mplayer plug-in in FIREFOX ?? :]18:48
colomy card is a broadcom18:49
combiniohow to turn it off ? :} can someone help me, please ? :)18:49
coloby what i read ubuntu uses bcm43xx , but it fails18:49
Sporkfluffman:I did that but it's not there.18:49
fluffman!purekde | tysonsw18:49
ubotutysonsw: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »18:49
mohamedhow can I add java room for the irx, I didn't use the irc in ages18:50
fluffmanmohamed: /join #java18:50
tysonswfluffman big thx to you my friend18:51
fluffmanSpork: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox18:51
fluffmantysonsw: you're welcome :)18:51
mohamedhow can I identify my self to join a chat room18:52
lee_eh whats this mean ?>>>>>>>Checking for Xgl: not present<<<<<<<18:52
SporkSo.. Purge fire fox then Install?18:53
eljefeso... what about K7.10 is new or exciting?  It still seems to be the forgotten sibling of Ubuntu, I don't see much to be excited about here... what am I missing18:53
fluffmanSpork: yes18:53
SporkThank you =)18:53
fluffmaneljefe: compared to Ubuntu 7.10, or Kubuntu 7.04?18:54
fluffmanmohamed: /msg nickserv HELP18:54
eljefeK7.04.  the new release seems kinda the same, not much has changed...18:54
eljefenot much difference that I see with k7.10 from K7.0418:55
fluffmanwell you won't notice much if you were already using 7.0418:55
eljefethat stinks18:55
fluffmanbut you get some new menu items (like Wine)18:55
eljefelol18:55
eljefeyeah18:55
SporkThank you fluffman =318:55
fluffmanand you get the restricted drivers18:55
Daisuke_Laptopso it's such a minor incremental difference that it defies logic to give it its own version number?18:55
fluffmanyou're welcome, Spork18:55
eljefebut the NTFS Config app needs 'gksu', that should have been fixed.  KFlickr and a bunch of other apps weren't upgraded to the newest18:56
fluffmanDaisuke_Laptop: there's a lot going on behind the scenes18:56
fluffmanit also includes strigi for quick desktop search18:56
eljefeother than Stringi, i feel once again that Ubuntu got all of the love.18:57
Daisuke_Laptophaving used kubuntu for the past year, i'm *really* seeing very little difference18:57
Daisuke_Laptopstrigi's nice though18:57
fluffmanoh how I HATED the old search18:57
lars__I just installed K7.04 and HATE Gwenview. Can someone recommend an image viewer more like irfanview?18:57
fluffmanD:18:57
fluffmanlars__: Picasa from Google18:57
mohamedDoes Kubunt7.10 come with the 3D desktop?18:57
Daisuke_Laptoppicasa is NOTHING like irfanview18:57
eljefeno 3d that I've noticed18:58
eljefealthough I hate Metacity WM, so if 3d would bean getting rid of KWin, I'll stay 3d-free18:58
mohamedhow can get the 3d working if it's included in KB?18:58
Daisuke_Laptopuh18:58
Daisuke_Laptopthe 3d isn't metacity18:58
lars__fluffman and daisuke are both right. Great viewer - nothing like irfanview18:58
fluffman!compiz | mohamed18:59
ubotumohamed: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion18:59
lee_!xgl19:00
fluffman(13:57:59) Daisuke_Laptop: picasa is NOTHING like irfanview19:00
fluffmanoh, sorry19:00
fluffmanI haven't used irfanview, just going by what I've heard19:00
lee_!info xgl19:00
ubotuPackage xgl does not exist in gutsy19:00
xidI installed Apache and MySQL using Adept, but there is no mysql module in Apache's modules directory.19:01
lee_then how in heck am i to run eerything?19:01
mohamedI always felt that the IRC is useless but I was wrong, you are really helpful   guys19:01
xidI must have skipped something obvious19:01
stdin!lamp | xid19:01
ubotuxid: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)19:01
lee_grrrr.19:02
xidkthnx]19:02
Lega'ello.19:02
lee_if its not one thing its another19:02
gun_hi19:02
mohamedWhat about shortcut to move between you desktop without clicking?19:02
lee_aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting19:03
tysonswI need big help.. I need to go from ubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop wuick19:03
tysonsw!purekde19:03
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »19:03
eljefewhere can i find the w32codecs package?19:03
stdin!w32codecs19:03
tysonswI need big help.. I need to go from ubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop wuick19:03
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs19:03
stdintysonsw: so follow that link19:04
mohamedany shortcut to move between different desktops19:04
atlfalcons866#gentoo19:05
stdinmohamed: ctrl-F?  so Ctrl-F1 switches to desktop 119:05
mohamedthanks19:05
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mohamedis there any faster way to move between 4 desktops19:06
iziois it possibile to try kde 4 wituot remouve 3.5.819:06
ubuntero_numero1hello everyone19:06
mohamedthat's one thing i like about linux, that would help me be productive19:07
stdinizio: read the link in the topic19:07
lee_!pastebin19:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:07
eljefedoes the seveas repo have gutsy apps?  it wouldn't load in my apt-get update (file 302 Found ??)19:08
fluffmanizio: yes...when you install kde4, it leaves kde 319:08
fluffmanjust follow the directions on the main kubuntu.org page19:08
lee_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41554/19:09
ubuntero_numero1anyone know how to update the icon listing on kde menu?  what is that program called again?19:09
rubikcubemohamed: faster than what?19:09
iziofluffman: thanks19:09
mohamedany thoughts about how to move 4 desktops with a simple shortcut?19:09
eljefedoes anyone know where the apps come from for a build?  For example, do the Kubuntu people get the most up-to-date package they can find for an application?  Or does it come from Debian Testing, or Sid?  or do they just repackage the app from Feisty?  or...?19:09
lee_Iam getting anoyed at all the reasons at why It won't Now I want to Forfce it to do it19:10
eljefemohamed: [ctrl][F1] thru [ctrl][f4]19:10
lars__I am *trying* to install OPERA. Konqi keeps opening the DEB in Kate. Is there a repository somewhere?19:10
stdineljefe: packages are normally synced from debian unstable19:10
mohamedgot it thanks19:10
stdin!opera | lars__19:10
ubotulars__: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser19:10
lee_!beryl19:11
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz19:11
eljefestdin: really?  all the apps i use seem old on the new 7.10!  when are they synced?  my work box is Debian Testing and has newer apps, at least the ones I've look at this morning19:11
ubuntero_numero1anyone know how to update the icon listing on kde menu?  what is that program called again?19:11
iziohow to install 3d desktop like "vista"19:11
lee_!compiz19:11
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:11
lars__props to ubotu19:12
stdineljefe: most were synced at the start of the development period, but there have been syncs since then. and what packages are old?19:12
urbanmagehey all, I just switched over to kubuntu (gutsy). I'm trying to make the icons on my desktop smaller, I've looked all over for the settings and searched the docs, etc and I can't find anything.  Suggestions?19:12
stdinurbanmage: System Settings > Appearance > Icons > Advanced19:13
urbanmagestdin: thanks, I'll check it out19:13
MorrisseyHi! I am trying to install kubuntu 7.10 on a 64 bits ASUS A8N-E, with two disks on RAID .. with chipset nForce4 ... graphic card: Radeon X800XL ... but instantly when I press "Start or install kubuntu", it loads the kernel, and then the machine freezes ... no input on keyboard is going trhough or nothing (such as caps, numlock, ctrl-alt-del ...) ... any ideas?19:14
urbanmagestdin: that did it, thanks for the info ;-)19:15
dgawhen i go fetch updates in adept, it says there is a new version available but when i click to upgrade there is none. what's up with that?19:15
eljefestdin: kflickr is old; due to bugs in kdenlive export and reading the forums, it seems that ffmpeg and mlt++ may be old; Firefox is oldish (2.0.0.6, newest is 2.0.0.8); thats all I've played with so far tho.  The Kdenlive issue is killing me tho!  I files a bug on the project site but who knows if the fix will ever get to Gutsy tho :(19:15
eljefeand it amazes me that Amarok tools like replaygain and aacgain, used for the volume-normalization script "Amarok-Replay-Gain", aren't included yet!19:17
eljefedga: i get that too, no idea19:17
biovoreoO19:17
lee_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41554/ how do i get flgrx?19:17
lee_or whatever i need?19:18
lee_can't find on google19:18
stdinlee_: you need Xgl and compiz-kde19:18
stdin!xgl19:18
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:18
stdinmm19:18
stdin!info xserver-xgl19:18
ubotuxserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1696 kB, installed size 4404 kB19:18
iziohow to install 3d desktop like "vista"19:18
stdinubotu: tell izio about compiz | izio see the message from ubotu19:19
eljefeif i follow !compiz will I lose KWin window manager?  can i easily get it back?19:19
stdineljefe: you just run "kwin --replace" to get back to kwin, kwin will still be the default when you login tho19:20
fluffmanMorrissey: your ATI card can't show the graphical loading pictures19:20
Do0oDzhi .. have anyone installed VMware in here ?19:20
eljefethanks stdin19:20
Morrisseyfluffman, ah ... I disabled splash, now it seems to be getting somewhere19:20
fluffmanpress ctrl+alt+f1 to see the kernel booting, or just wait19:20
fluffmanyeah, there you go19:20
lee_allready got compiz, i just need the comand for xgl19:21
fluffmanif you can't load the desktop at all, you should get the alternate install CD19:21
stdinlee_: just install xserver-xgl from adept, then you logout and choose "Restart X server" from the login menu19:22
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draikWhen using Katapult, how do you go to "Next"?19:23
Fish-FaceHi all, amarok has started refusing to start. No splash screen, window or anything is produced, and no interesting or unusual output is produced at the command line19:24
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Fish-FaceRunning strace against amarokapp reveals a select which times out twice, and then a read which just hangs19:24
draik!upgrade19:24
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes19:24
lee_stdin ok so i now after having installed i log out and then "Restart X server" from the login menu..will i see it in th options?19:24
Fish-Facedraik: was that for me?19:25
lee_logging out19:25
flake7.10 kde + compiz/kde installed, how do i get to compiz?19:25
stdinlee_: you just restart the X server, it's an option in the menu on the login screen. Xgl will automatically start then19:25
stdin!compiz | flake19:25
ubotuflake: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:25
draikFish-Face: No. I was curious about the upgrade19:25
Fish-FaceOh, OK19:26
[4N93L]I got 3.5.6 kubuntu and i recently downloaded and installed FluxBox ..i had to upgrade it using Aptitude .. I can't notice the difference, or am i missing something?? Is there a command that makes this FluxBox work ?19:26
lee_eh is that a full sytem restart?19:26
dgawhat do i need to install to enable compiz fusion? just xserver-xgl?19:26
lee_or what isan x server restart?19:26
h3sp4wn[4N93L]: just use exec /usr/bin/fluxbox in .xinitrc19:27
stdin[4N93L]: you have to choose to start fluxbox, from the login menu19:27
lee_oh k19:27
stdinh3sp4wn: that would wreak havoc when he want's to start kde19:28
h3sp4wnstdin: He wants to run fluxbox19:28
stdinh3sp4wn: forever?19:28
biovoredosn't it show up as a selectable window manager in kdm?19:28
h3sp4wnstdin: launching fluxbox from kdm seems wrong19:28
flakehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:28
emiryim stupid... why can't i connect to efnet server?19:28
dgaflake: that says it is for feisty19:29
biovoreg-lined?19:29
h3sp4wnstdin: he can change it to /usr/bin/startkde anyway19:29
[4N93L]emiry: try the server irc.efnet.net19:29
h3sp4wn(if he wants kde) and just use xdm19:29
emirylemme see19:29
flakei just installed it, did ccsm and pulled up a control panel19:29
flakewill let you know19:29
lee_ok  I think I got something lol, but I really need to smoot it out lol19:29
lee_its an affiramtive I have running19:30
emiry4N93L:  thx.  ur the best19:30
[4N93L]h3sp4wn: does it matter if i select it from the Grub window ?19:30
kudarhey guys. my wireless is running really slow on kubuntu 7.10. any suggestions?19:30
stdinh3sp4wn: fluxbox adds an entry to kdm (usr/share/xsessions/fluxbox.desktop) so it should be started from there19:30
techlyHi. Does anyone know what package the mouse theme is in?19:30
h3sp4wnstdin: if you are running fluxbox there is no point in using kdm19:31
lee_eh ok now I can use cuby lol19:31
stdinh3sp4wn: why?19:32
kudarok, nobody can help me then19:32
[4N93L]h3sp4wn: i just want to try the FluxBox for now,if i like it then ima replace kdm with it.19:32
BigDaddyhey guys, I have a weird error message. Anyone know what this means? (whatever_file) is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.19:32
h3sp4wn[4N93L]: fluxbox is not equivalent to kdm19:33
stdinBigDaddy: that's known19:33
[4N93L]kudar: try installing kWifiManager19:33
BigDaddystd19:33
kudarok19:33
BigDaddystdin: known issues?19:33
stdinBigDaddy: yeah, it's being worked on19:33
emiryi'm coming from mIRC... where are my private messages in Konversation?19:34
BigDaddystdin: sweet, I really thought it was something I screwed up when I restored my /home19:34
[4N93L]h3sp4wn: i believe that only the interface is different .. do u use fluxbox ?19:34
stdinemiry: you'll see a new tab with the name of the person you're talking with19:34
emiryok thx19:34
BigDaddystdin: do you know if mounted drives not appearing on the desktop is a known issue as well?19:34
h3sp4wnstdin: would you use gdm with kde ?19:34
lee_eh ok how do I get cube up and running?19:35
h3sp4wnstdin: If you are going to use a light vm may as well user a light login manager19:35
h3sp4wn*wm19:35
stdinh3sp4wn: there's no reason either way, kdm and gdm work with kde and gnome (and others)19:35
BigDaddyh3sp4wn: I believe if you use gdm you lose the ability to do fast user switching19:35
BigDaddyh3sp4wn: in relation to KDE that is19:36
stdinh3sp4wn: from kubuntu kdm is pre-installed, to use anything else it would require disabling it and installing another. easier to stick with the one you have that works fine19:36
stdinBigDaddy: I think that's config in  System Settings > Desktop > Behaviour > Device Icons19:37
lee_stdin ok how do I enable the Cube?19:37
lee_I found its settings, cube shadow and reflection and such, but19:37
stdinlee_: it's a setting in compiz, run ccsm to find it (I don't use compiz)19:37
BigDaddystdin: yeah I have that set to show them, but they do not appear. However if I manually redo the mount on a partition, they all appear19:37
kudar[4N93L]: do you mean kwlan? i dont see kwifimanager in add or remove programs19:38
stdinBigDaddy: I've heard of something like that happening sometimes, don't think anyone really knows why19:38
h3sp4wnstdin: I don't see the issue with using .xsession or .xinitrc (been the way to do things for years now - why change something that is perfectly simple)19:38
[4N93L]kudar: there is a kWifiManager19:38
[4N93L]kudar: i installed it two days ago. :|19:39
stdinBigDaddy: check the bug reports ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu )19:39
kudari found it19:39
kudarwow19:39
stdinh3sp4wn: because that forces it to start when you may not want it to19:39
lee_WHAT THE !Info: No sexy-python package found, don't worry it's optional.! taht    waht I got whe nI tried CCSM19:39
h3sp4wnstdin: Yeah but kde or gdm may not be enabled on some random system at some point you may have to use19:39
h3sp4wnstdin: my may works across the board19:40
flakefor kde, should i go with screenlets, adesklets,  ?19:40
[4N93L]h3sp4wn: could it be done or not? switching from FluxBox to KDE and vise-versa using the Grub ?19:40
stdinh3sp4wn: is kdm/gdm/xdm wasn't enabled, then they'd find the way to start it them selfs19:41
BigDaddylol, the bugs page is moving slower than syrup in january19:41
flake4N93L - if you have two installations, if only one you can switch at the login screen19:41
tvwHi I just booted the kubuntu 7.10-CD and find myself in a login-screen. What should I enter here. I cannot find any documentation about this.19:41
kudar4N94L: kwifimanager says there are no networks?19:42
h3sp4wn[4N93L]: You could use a script to do it I suppose19:42
ErtainHello everyone.  Though I have updated to Gutsy through Adept when I update the database it still says I have a version upgrade.19:42
h3sp4wn[4N93L]: And take something out of the kernel commandline19:42
stdintvw: should auto-login, try user: ubuntu and blank password, if that doesn't work check the CD integrity19:42
h3sp4wn[4N93L]: Have a look at how knoppix cheatcodes work19:42
stdinErtain: it's a known issue, the fix is waiting for the repos to re-open19:43
[4N93L]Looks like ima give it a try .. brb19:43
[4N93L]and if i dont show up,means that i messed it all up19:43
[4N93L]:)19:43
ErtainThank you stdin.19:43
NightBirdok, so ndiswrapper isn't being loaded on boot up and I have to manually do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'  How can I set it up to do that automatically?19:46
h3sp4wnNightBird: /etc/modules is the easiest way19:46
NightBirdok19:46
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corfu_palmahi19:47
NightBirdsweet...19:47
* NightBird will have to restart and find out if it worked...19:47
Tigersteinhy all, I just installed kubuntu, and kopete crashes everytime, I try to log in to msn19:49
stdinTigerstein: 32 or 64bit?19:50
Tigerstein3219:50
stdinTigerstein: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb < install that package to fix19:50
jonnaHow do I remove compiz. I installed it with "compiz --replace".19:51
stdinjonna: "kwin --replace" will bring kwin back, use adept to remove the packages19:52
frank23what's a good rss feed media agregator? Miro is really unstable and penguintv crashes on load. Amarok works but can.t play videos directly.19:52
sub[t]rnlkillall compiz will kill the process, sudo apt-get --purge remove compiz* can remove it or use adept like stdin said19:52
MinnozzI am following a guide to let my mobile phone connect with my broadband internet, but I need to put an entry in /etc/network/interfaces . How do I know the name of the bluetooth dongle? ('name' as in 'wlan0', 'eth1' etc)19:52
vbgunzanyone know what can cause tty 1 through 6 to break? I only see a blinking underscore on these terminals. any one know whats up?19:52
sub[t]rnlvbgunz: do you pass a vga= in grubs menu.lst?19:53
stdinvbgunz: sometimes disabling usplash can fix that too19:53
Gun_SmokeNew to kde.. Where to I find the compiz manager?19:53
sub[t]rnl!compiz | Gun_Smoke19:53
ubotuGun_Smoke: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion19:53
Gun_Smokesub[t]rnl: Thank you.19:53
sub[t]rnlstdin: have you read anything more about the framebuffer deal with gutsy's current kernel?19:54
lee_well, I have figured out everything but the cube lol19:54
jonnaThanks for the help! Compiz was nice but it crashed to much for me. :(19:54
trans_hi19:54
sub[t]rnlstdin: for some reason if you use a vga= tty's go dead.19:54
lee_jonna you need to down load a few things19:55
sub[t]rnlhopefully they get it sorted out19:55
lee_sub[t]rnl ah just the oerson I need to see lol19:55
stdinsub[t]rnl: I never use the framebuffer, it's always been buggy. check if it's been reported in launchpad (if they don't know about it, they can't fix it)19:55
sub[t]rnlstdin: kk, I've been trying to track it, seems its still an open bug19:56
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sub[t]rnlkernel team's on it19:56
lee_sub[t]rnl I have everything enabled but I cant see cube19:56
jonnalee_:   i don't think it was a problem with not installing everything. kde-window-decorator keep crashing now and then. works fine for a while.19:56
lee_ah I see19:56
vbgunzsub[t]rnl: I pass vga=791, that has always worked though since dapper19:56
vbgunzstdin: how do you disable usplash? is that the gui 'kubuntu' loading screen?19:57
sub[t]rnlvbgunz: with gutsy's default kernel?19:57
vbgunzsub[t]rnl: yes, I pass vga=791 on gutsy19:57
draikHow are the 7.10 servers? Too heavy to smoothly upgrade?19:57
trans_i just installed gutsy-amd64 on my computer (4600 X2) and to get it to work i had to use the nolapic boot option.  Isn't that not good to use on a dual core?  Is there a way i might avoid the issue using something else?19:57
NightBirdI've not had problems with normal updates and installs as of late... but I don't know about a fresh upgrade...19:57
sub[t]rnlvbgunz: interesting, it was able to work for you out of the box?19:57
stdinvbgunz: yeah, you just remove the all the instances of the word "splash" from /boot/grub/menu.lst19:58
lee_well I have all the effects in place I just can't kick in the cube its self19:58
* lee_ kicks the monitor19:59
vbgunzsub[t]rnl: yes. out of the box. now sure what happened that caused this to happen. I've seen this before by never getting to X *but* that was because I had something in my xorg DRI mode 0666 or something like that19:59
vbgunzstdin: I can try that20:00
vbgunzbrb, am going to try with no splash20:01
sub[t]rnlbug #12291020:01
stdinno bug bot reports in here ;)20:01
sub[t]rnl:P20:02
stdinLaunchpad bug 122910 in hiki "Please sync hiki (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12291020:02
AkiraYBHey, I have a problem with flash movies freezing both, Firefox and Konqueror... My MPlayer freeze too when I usa ao=alsa, using ao=arts works well. Anyone know something about this?!20:02
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frank23what's a good rss feed media agregator? Miro is really unstable and penguintv crashes on load. Amarok works but can.t play videos directly.20:03
lee_!info cube20:03
ubotuPackage cube does not exist in gutsy20:03
lee_erg20:03
grul!info internet20:03
ubotuPackage internet does not exist in gutsy20:03
AkiraYBI think whis is a problem with my sound card and Alsa... But, I don't know.20:03
lee_eh how do I get the CUBE20:03
grul:_______________<20:03
AkiraYB*this20:03
stdinfor help with compiz ask in #compiz-effects20:03
lee_>.<20:03
[4N93L]stdin: the Grub had duplicated but none had fluxbox on it .. now i checked on the apt-get and it doesnt show FluxBox as installed. :S20:04
stdinerm, it's actuallt #compiz-fusion20:04
lee_eh no ones in th3ee20:04
lee_there20:04
stdin[4N93L]: grub won't show it, KDM will20:04
lee_its totally empty20:04
stdinlee_: #compiz-fusion not -effects20:04
sub[t]rnltheir hiding20:04
sub[t]rnlthey're too20:04
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Do0oDzplz can anyone help me with VMware ?20:05
stdin!vmware20:06
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers20:06
AkiraYBAnyway, I like to try recompile Alsa 1.0.15... Is there any way to create a package from debconfs of Alsa 1.0.14 easily?20:06
tysonswAny1 got a tip on how to make the kubuntu realise that the right cd is in the tray?? I am trying to play Wc3 but all i get is a message that sais that I should push in the wight cd20:07
tysonswright*20:07
[4N93L]stdin: i couldnt find anything on kdm that would be changeable to fluxbox. :\20:07
AkiraYBtysonsw: Hum... I think this is because the mount point of the drive is dynamic and Wine is not prepared for that.20:08
AkiraYBI think...20:08
AshexIs there any way to get rid of Kontact and use the apps seperatly?20:08
tysonswAkiraYB any ide how to fix that?20:08
[4N93L]on the Shutdown tab, there is an option for the Boot-Manager .. would it affect anything if i changed it to Lilo??20:08
stdin[4N93L]: KDM is the login screen, before you login20:09
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AkiraYBtysonsw: You can add the mount point (/media/wc3 ?) to Wine's configuration for a simple workaround.20:09
FOADWhew, moving to gutsy sure is a bit of a hardship. :(20:10
[4N93L]stdin: i restarted and tried it,there is a duplicate of the main one that i login to .. i tried them both but they're the same20:10
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AkiraYBtysonsw: Or edit the configuration of HAL to mount every time in /media/cdrom, for example...20:10
FOADSince going gutsy, my USB drives stopped automounting.  How do I fix it so they automount again?20:10
vbgunzsub[t]rnl: I've narrowed it down to vga=79120:10
tysonswAkiraYB HAL?20:10
tysonsw!HAL20:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:11
[4N93L]!fluxbox20:11
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox20:11
vbgunzbut that alwasy worked. its the largest resolution I could get in the terminal otherwise, the res is so poor, everything is so big :(20:11
AkiraYBHardware Abstract Layer.20:11
lee_eg had to log fer a sec..but yeah its checked waht was taht channel again?20:11
AkiraYBtysonsw: Hardware Abstract Layer.20:11
vbgunzvga=791 worked since dapper, edgy and feisty. it seems to be the cause of the blinking underscore in gutsy though :(20:11
stdin[4N93L]: make sure you installed fluxbox, I just installed it and selected "fluxbox" from the menu in KDM and it started fluxbox20:11
tysonswAkiraYB were can I find that one?20:11
FOADNobody knows?20:11
[4N93L]stdin: thanks anyways20:12
sub[t]rnlvbgunz: yeah vesab is broke in gutsy's kernel right now20:12
piccadoes kubuntu use kaffeine as its default video player20:12
lee_stdin ahh flux box eh?20:12
blendtuxvbgunz: are your fonts in the terminal big ?20:12
edenbeastFOAD:   are you getting errors in dmesg?20:12
vbgunzblendtux: yes, amazing big20:12
AkiraYBtysonsw: I will try to find some tutorial...20:12
FOADedenbeast: no20:12
blendtuxi have the same problem20:12
vbgunzit's hard to edit text or do anything with everything so big20:13
blendtuxdid you narrow it down what the problem is20:13
edenbeastFOAD: could you start hal to make sure that that's not the issue? :-/20:13
FOADedenbeast: if I plug in something _after_ booting and all, everything starts up at once.20:13
vbgunzI will try 790 and and worse comes to worse, 77320:13
tysonswAkiraYB thx.. I made the wine autodetect what drives there weere.. so lets see  after the installation if it works20:13
FOADOr at least, everything shows on the desktop20:13
FOADStill ahve to click on the icons to actually mount them20:13
vbgunzbrb20:13
blendtuxoke20:13
FOADedenbeast: I'm a noob, how?20:14
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edenbeastah20:14
AkiraYBtysonsw: Yeap... But everytime the disc name changes you'll have to reconfigure Wine. But is a simple workaround. :D20:14
edenbeastsudo /etc/init.d/hal start20:14
tysonswAkiraYB can't you set the name to transparent+20:14
edenbeastdamn WWE is so different without colorcommentary :P20:15
FOADLet's see20:15
tysonswAkiraYB for the moment its name is /media/cdrom020:15
edenbeastFOAD: it'll probably say that it has started already though20:15
AkiraYBtysonsw: The disc is monted there?!20:16
tysonswAkiraYB yes20:16
edenbeastvbgunz did you make progress with the permissions thing? :-)20:16
FOADedenbeast: indeed20:16
AkiraYBtysonsw: Well then... That's right, then... :D20:16
FOAD * Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald                                             /usr/sbin/hald already running.20:17
FOAD                                                                                 [ OK ]20:17
makuseruhi, i have a Toshiba Gigabeat mp3 player, and when i connect it (via USB) it shows up as a camera and than i cant open the folder to put any songs on it or anything, how can i get this to display properly, as just another drive that i can put files in20:17
AkiraYBtysonsw: In Gutsy HAL mounts in /media/disc_name ... Then, changing everytime. So Wine don't know what's the correct mount point of the disc drive.20:18
tysonswAkiraYB but stil it sais that The frozen throne was unable to locate your cd-rom drive. Please make sure you Frozen Trone is in your CD->ROM drive, then klick retry20:18
edenbeastAkiraYB: you can set up rules to make certain devices always mount at the same mount point20:18
AkiraYBedenbeast: Yeap... :D20:19
edenbeastAkiraYB: udev rules20:19
FOADBut again, when I plug in a device (or turn the power on), every device appears on the desktop.20:19
edenbeastwhich reminds me could you do sudo /etc/init.d/udev start FOAD20:19
FOADAlthough they're still not in /media then, I gotta click on them to make that happen.20:19
edenbeastmaybe it's udev :-/20:20
FOADI thought udev ruled? ;)20:20
* FOAD makes a note20:20
edenbeastFOAD is this a new install or an upgrade from feisty btw?20:20
AkiraYBtysonsw: You follow the instructions that's in wine page?!20:20
FOADCompletely new install.20:20
FOADThe upgrade broke everything so I had no choice.20:20
edenbeastFOAD no idea, udev/hal is such black magic still :-(20:20
edenbeastat least to me20:21
FOADIt worked fine in feisty.20:21
FOADOk.20:21
cashHello20:21
FOADThanks for the suggestions. :)20:21
cashI have issue with knetwork20:21
juhanaadept started version upgrade, but then cancelled it and sain that my system is already up to date. used beta. whats going on?20:21
edenbeastI think feisty still used ivman to mount it all20:21
edenbeastFOAD you could install ivman and see if that solves your problems20:22
shakeywhat is linux?20:22
tysonswAkiraYB I found in the wine config that the cd-rom in advanced mood stood in hard drive.. it should stand in cd rom.. now it works.. but it staled20:22
blendtuxshakey: what do you mean, what is linux?20:22
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AkiraYBtysonsw: Weird...20:22
shakeyblendtux: im just messin around20:22
edenbeasthe means wat is GNU/linux ;P20:22
FOADI will try that.20:22
vbgunzdamn... vga=791 does not work for tty 1 through 6. I get a blinking underscore. 790 is unknown and 773 also does not work... what are the valid vga options I can use in Gutsy?20:23
edenbeasthaha20:23
shakeyim not complete nub sauce20:23
FOADThanks again. :)20:23
AkiraYBtysonsw: Don't know what could be, then...20:23
vbgunzshakey: linux is a kernel20:23
cashAfter update from 7.04 to 7.10 - knetwork doesent show me Wlan networks - and icon (connection established) is always active - in the case - when Im offline too .And after connect to the inet in office ,when I homeI need many times set cable in my Lan card =((20:23
shakeyyea i know20:23
edenbeastFOAD it could also be your policies file20:23
vbgunzanyone know what vga options are good for use in Gutsy?20:23
FOADedenbeast: where would it be, if I had such a beast?20:23
edenbeastFOAD could you do md5sum /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi20:23
FOADedenbeast: you want the result of that?20:24
cashhelp me plz ( I already tired switch settings every day20:24
AkiraYBtysonsw: Sorry...20:24
edenbeastFOAD that gives me e8364a4d5ef1d2c6e2c0ab6067a8e835 as result if you get something else then that means you have differences and the problem could lie there since that's where is defined what to do with certain volumes20:24
FOADe8364a4d5ef1d2c6e2c0ab6067a8e835  /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi20:24
edenbeastso that's not it :-/20:25
FOADOk.20:25
FOADI'll try ivman20:25
cashAnybody see my messages?20:25
AkiraYBAnyone use CA0106 for sound driver?!20:25
tysonswAkiraYB its ok20:26
blendtuxvbgunz:  where did you change the vga setting20:26
shakeydisciple20:26
vbgunzblendtux: one sec20:26
shakeystreets20:26
vbgunzblendtux: /boot/grub/menu.lst20:27
shakeyi dont care what u say, shuttleworth would so knock out steve woz20:27
martyhey20:27
cashHelp !!SOS!!!20:27
martythere is someone to help me wit20:27
martyubuntu 7.0420:27
vbgunzblendtux: around line 90, look for # defoptions20:27
* shakey is runnin 7.0420:27
blendtuxlol, what is your problem marty20:27
edenbeastcash what's the matter?20:27
AkiraYBAnyone use CA0106 for sound driver?!20:27
vbgunzblendtux: put in on that line but do not remove the comment20:27
blendtuxoke20:27
martyi will post my error20:27
martyin console20:27
blendtuxno20:27
blendtuxuse pasebin marty20:28
* shakey anticipates marty's post20:28
vbgunzblendtux: once you put in your desired vga, do not uncomment, close the file and then run 'sudo update-grub'20:28
cashedenbeast After update from 7.04 to 7.10 - knetwork doesent show me Wlan networks - and icon (connection established) is always active - in the case - when Im offline too .And after connect to the inet in office ,when I homeI need many times set cable in my Lan card =((20:28
* shakey installed kde4 beta last night20:29
vbgunzI think I might know what the problem is and again I think* it falls back onto xorg20:29
blendtuxoke, vbgunz, and what is the solution for that20:30
shakey!blender20:30
ubotublender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro20:30
AmyRoseshakey: Can you get further with it than I did?20:30
shakeyAmyRose: no lol, I couldnt even get kicker to show up20:30
shakeyi was able to look at 2 plasmoids and that was it really20:30
vbgunzblendtux: solution for what?20:30
blendtuxfor your big font problem20:30
AmyRoseshakey: It doesn't use Kicker anymore :(20:30
shakeyahhhhh!20:30
cashGive me solution ! regards knetwork pleaseEE!20:30
shakeylol well then20:31
AmyRoseshakey: They told me on #kde that they are working on a K menu plasmoid for us20:31
vbgunzblendtux: oh, sorry, I do not have option "NvAGP" "1" in my xorg... am going to try that now20:31
shakeyah yea, i remember seeing a plasmoid for application launcher or something like that20:31
AkiraYB!flash20:31
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash20:31
kudarinstalled ndiswrapper from add or remove programs but it doesn't open20:31
edenbeastdoesn't that disable agp?20:31
AmyRoseshakey: I think we better stick to KDE 3.5.8 + compiz if we want fancy for now ;)20:31
shakeyhaha, compiz is cool, but i save that for my desktop20:32
* shakey on the laptop right now20:32
jawee_I just upgraded to gusty20:32
jawee_and now KNetworkManager isn't recognizing my wireless20:32
vbgunzblendtux: will let you know if that worked20:32
AmyRoseshakey: My desktop is incapable of Compiz--it's a Pentium II. My laptop is a Pentium 4 with GeForce 4 graphics. Now, see I can't do what you do :P20:32
cashjawee_ For me TOO20:32
blendtuxyep goodluck20:32
edenbeastI wish I could upgrade to Dusty Gibbons :D20:32
shakeyhahaha20:32
jawee_I had installed a driver and typed in sudo modprobe bcm43xx and then knetworkmanager registered it instantly20:32
draikIs there a way I can listen to a voicemail message with Kubuntu?20:33
jawee_so I had that run on startup20:33
jawee_but now it isn't there20:33
AmyRoseshakey: It's more convenient for me to do it on my laptop anyway because I can show it at school :D20:33
draikI want to dial my voicemail and have it recorded and saved to my desktop20:33
jawee_Ut just says "No active device"20:33
jawee_sudo iwlist scan shows my network20:33
shakeyyea, i used it at work, it really is useful20:33
shakeyespecially when you have a lot of windows open, the cube is invaluable20:33
AmyRosedraik: You could buy Wengo or Skype minutes... other than that, i don't know20:34
AmyRose!wengophone20:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wengophone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:34
jawee_any ideas anyone?20:34
knapbuonasera a tutto il canale20:34
AmyRose!it | knap20:34
ubotuknap: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:34
AmyRose!anything`20:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything` - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:34
AmyRoselol20:34
knaphello to all20:35
Gun_Smoke1exit20:35
AmyRoseknap: Hello to you20:35
mohamedhey guys  does any body know a winscp like software for ubuntu and it should be gui.20:36
blendtuxyes mohamed20:36
edenbeastmohamed use the ssh fuse extension? sshfs? :-)20:36
AmyRosemohamed: You can use sftp://host in Konqueror20:36
blendtuxuse putty for linux20:36
knaphi AmyRose20:36
AmyRosemohamed: You can also do it in Nautilus, but I'm not sure how20:36
AmyRosemohamed: gftp also works with SSH20:36
AmyRoseknap: Do you have any questions?20:37
shakeylol20:37
mohamedi'm really newbie and all of this things seems complicated :)20:37
blendtuxmohamed: putty for linux, you can install it allso on windows20:37
knapnot have questions Amy20:37
AmyRoseblendtux: But mohamed seems to be asking about file transfer, because that's what winscp does20:37
blendtuxso mohamed then you have the same app's on different os's20:37
AmyRosemohamed: Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?20:38
mohamedI think AmyRose got it tifht20:38
mohamedright20:38
blendtuxyou can configure putty to open a file manager i thought AmyRose20:38
AmyRosemohamed: Which one?20:38
mohamedI use kubunut20:38
mohamedI need for file transfer for a school project20:38
knap20:38
knapToday I installed the new version of kubuntu July 10 gutsy and everything went well20:38
AmyRosemohamed: OK, just hit Alt-F2 and type sftp://user@host and it will open a file manager for you20:38
cashwho can help me with Knetwork20:38
cash?20:38
AmyRosemohamed: It's definitely easier than winscp20:39
* shakey needs to focus on school paper20:39
mohamedit give me an error, let me try again20:39
kudaranyone have a clue why ndiswrapper program wont open when i execute it?20:39
edenbeastmohamed: or use sshfs http://sysblogd.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/ubuntu-mounting-remote-filesystem-using-sshfs-fuse/ http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/  but if it's just for a 1-time transfer, try sftp first20:40
AmyRoseedenbeast: Uh, that's harder than using Konqueror or Dolphin to do it.20:40
vbgunzim having no luck at all with the grub framebuffer... it appears I might have to go as low I can go when it comes to res :/20:40
AmyRoseedenbeast: mohamed asked for a GUI20:40
blendtuxehm, that is too bad, but i guess you did not had the problem with dapper or edgy20:41
blendtuxwhen did it started vbgunz20:41
alromaithioh man it hought i wouldnt come here20:42
shakeyis there a way to figure out what version of apache you are running?20:42
alromaithii just got Kubuntu i dont see compiz!!! :(20:42
shakeythrough the command line20:42
draikAmyRose: How would I record what comes through Skype?20:42
vbgunzblendtux: it started in gutsy20:42
edenbeastapachectl --version? :-)20:42
AmyRosedraik: I'm not sure20:42
vbgunzI always had vga=791 since dapper with no problems20:42
draikAmyRose: Thanks.20:42
AmyRosedraik: You should be able to do it with a sound recording tool20:42
alromaithiplease anybody help me get Compiz working , i went in all the settings 1 by 1 i dont see Enable compiz somewere20:43
draikHow do I record what comes through Skype? I want to record a voicemail message on my computer. My mic is dead.20:43
mohamedThanks Amy it's working fine, you are guys are the best(napoleaon Dynmite)20:43
edenbeastdraik http://lengau.livejournal.com/2796.html20:43
blendtuxstrange strange, wich file was it20:43
vbgunzI'll vga=ask20:43
AmyRosemohamed: You're welcome.20:43
sub[t]rnlvbgunz: just take vga out20:43
sub[t]rnlvbgunz: vesab framebuffering with the gutsy kernel is buggy20:44
alromaithiguys how to enable compiz please :( Kubuntu Gutsy20:44
AmyRose!compiz | alromaithi20:44
ubotualromaithi: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion20:44
sub[t]rnlalromaithi: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager20:44
sub[t]rnlalromaithi: then alt+f2 and run compiz or create a sym link in your ~/.kde/Autostart directory20:45
alromaithisub[t]rnl: will i see the icon on my system tray like in kubuntu 7.4?20:45
lavacano201014hmmm20:45
lavacano201014maybe i can get beryl to work under compiz20:45
lavacano201014maybe20:45
sub[t]rnlalromaithi: theres a seperate package out for the system tray icon in kubuntu I think20:45
sub[t]rnlcan't remember how I got it20:45
sub[t]rnl:P20:45
sub[t]rnlfor compiz20:45
alromaithi:(20:46
alromaithiwhat about KDE 4.0 is it good for download yet?20:46
edenbeastbtw is there any way to have kwallet also accept your logging into kde as authentication?20:46
shakeyalromaithi: i woudl wait20:46
seanixhi, anyone having problems with the menu? (i have really long text descriptions that make it no fun to use)20:46
AmyRose!kde420:46
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php20:46
cashhttp://rafb.net/p/ZMTK1u55.html please look20:46
alromaithisub[t]rnl: so i do this sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager ?? dont i need emerald or this Gutsy can take care of decoration for me?20:47
seanixis this the help channel for kubuntu 7.10? thanks :)20:47
mohamedwhat is the command to creat a new folder20:47
alromaithishould i get the kde window decorater through adept sub[t]rnl ?20:47
AmyRosealromaithi: compiz-kde includes a KDE decorator, but you can still install the emerald package20:47
Admiral_Chicagoalromaithi: i just tested beta 3, nothing too good yet20:47
sub[t]rnlalromaithi: thats just to get the basics up and running, apt-get emerald and the extra plugins if you want20:47
sub[t]rnli would20:47
edenbeastmohamed mkdir if you're on a cli20:47
lavacano201014well that solved my adept problem20:48
utnubukis there an easy way to install KDE desktop and uninstall all packages that were installed on the gnome desktop?20:48
AlCan I upgrade just by s/feisty/gutsy/g in sources.list and setting apt-get off?20:48
seanixis anybody running kubuntu 7.10?20:48
AlBecause adept is *rubbish*20:48
lavacano201014utnubuk: sudo apt-get install kde20:48
lavacano201014then login to kde20:48
utnubuki know installing the KDE is easy, more concerned about removing gnome packages...20:48
lavacano201014and sudo apt-get remove gnome20:48
neversfelde_utnubuk: install it with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"20:49
Allavacano201014, you mean install kubuntu-desktop20:49
utnubukthanks lavacano20:49
lavacano201014ah20:49
tysonswquick help on how to get ati drivers??20:49
Aland remove ubuntu-desktop20:49
Al:)20:49
edenbeastAl: yes, but you'll need to do a dist-upgrade, not a regular upgrade20:49
Alaye20:49
lavacano201014i thought he just wanted to switch to kde20:49
Althat's what I was expecting.20:49
Alta20:49
alromaithisub[t]rnl:  idont think emerald is worth getting , friends i know in msn complaining and regreted for installing emerald , they say you cant disable it and go for normal kde decoration ,because they dont have that Compiz Systemtray Icon which they had in feisty20:49
Alalromaithi, that's not true20:49
* lavacano201014 has KDE, GNOME and AfterStep20:49
AlI use Emerald and I can change to the KDE decorator if I want.20:49
AmyRosealromaithi: I use Emerald all the time20:49
seanixdoes nobody know how to fix the menu bug in kubuntu7.10? strange ...20:49
* h3sp4wn would not trust apt-get for a dist-upgrade like that (only aptitude)20:50
alromaithiAmyRose: and can u disable and go for KDE decoration coz kde decoration has more fancy looks forexample Vista Look20:50
seanixcan you guys see this message????????????????????????????20:50
AmyRosealromaithi: No.20:50
edenbeast? I thought aptitude used apt-get? :P20:50
seanixhelllo!!!20:50
blubbI was just reading about the gutsy version and I'm wondering how i can disable strigi and install konqueror by default?20:50
blubbseanix: yes20:50
edenbeastis it not just a GUI front then?20:50
seanixahhh cool20:50
blubbseanix: we can20:50
tysonswquick help on how to get ati drivers??20:50
seanixi thought i was invisible (again like spiderman)20:51
alromaithiso you cant disable right? emerald is a lock on compiz , ? AmyRose? if you can disable means you got that compiz icon system tray which is near the sound volume control which i really want to know how to get it on Kubuntu20:51
seanixam i the only one who has extra long path names in the kde menu??20:51
Gun_Smokewell... compiz seemed to break everything...20:51
seanixplease someone help me fix this :)20:51
AmyRosealromaithi: Yeah, I installed the tray icon20:51
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AmyRose!manners | seanix20:51
ubotuseanix: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines20:51
AmyRoseseanix: You may want to go to the panel settings dialog and set the menu display options20:52
tysonswquick help on how to get ati drivers??20:52
edenbeastI have no idea seanix, my menus are working fine, are you running an upgrade or a new install? :-/20:52
alromaithiAmyRose: how to install tray icon and this command sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager is not enough !!! i dont see snow or desktop cube ect... :( i thought compiz will come fully like ubuntu Gutsy20:52
edenbeasttysons they're in the menu for aplications to install now :-)20:52
edenbeastthe KDE>add/remove programs thnigie20:53
AmyRosealromaithi: They didn't include the tray icon for some stupid reason...20:53
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mohamedwhat is the text  editor for kubuntu20:53
seanixi have tried new installs of kubuntu 7.10 32/64bit versions and both display the path in almost every menu entry (except new programs i add)20:53
AmyRosemohamed: kate20:53
edenbeastkate20:53
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alromaithinow im lost :(20:53
sub[t]rnlalromaithi: open adept manager and put in compiz, then you'll see all the extra's. or do an adept-cache search compiz.20:53
sub[t]rnllook around20:53
sub[t]rnl:P20:53
mohamedThanks, I think I'm going to thank you guys for a million time20:53
sub[t]rnlapt-cache search even20:54
alromaithiAmyRose: i typed compiz --replace and now i dont see titlebars lol20:54
blubbcan I just uninstall dolphin and install konqueror?20:54
utnubuki've seen the screenshot of KDE 4 with the widgets, anyone know if they are going to include something similar to OS X expose?20:54
utnubuki love that feature20:54
edenbeastblubb: konqueror isn't gone20:54
blubbedenbeast: but it won't be default?20:55
tysonswedenbeast: I need to get the drivers to install what is the command or that?20:55
edenbeastblubb but you'll need to set it as default application20:55
blubbedenbeast: how and where?20:55
alromaithisub[t]rnl AmyRose : PLease :( now after ALT F2 i did compiz --replace and now i dont see title20:55
blubbI could just unistall dolphin?20:55
alromaithiwhats the commnad to disbale compiz just for this session20:55
blubbanother question, can I boot my old kernel from feisty with gutsy?20:56
AmyRoseblubb: Konqueror's a better web browser than anything else! *ducks*20:56
shakeyalromaithi:  hit ctrl+alt+backspace20:56
sub[t]rnlAmyRose: !!20:56
alromaithithat is to reset X20:56
* shakey agrees that konqueror pwnz20:56
tysonswAny1 know how I could install ati drivers?20:56
sub[t]rnlblasphemy!20:56
blubbAmyRose: yes but dolphin is not yet ready... and anyway konqueror rocks...20:56
shakeyalromaithi: yea reset X and try again20:56
Kachnaanyone using audacity over here?20:56
edenbeastblubb go to konqueror>preferences>File Associations, there change inode/directory to konqueror20:56
AmyRoseblubb: Yeah, I have to agree, but I prefer the convenience of being able to configure Konqueror to act like a web browser20:56
shakey i mean...compiz --replace was working for me last night20:56
* lavacano201014 prefers Firefox over Konqueror20:56
blubbok20:57
shakeykonqueror is faster than ff20:57
lavacano201014as a web browser20:57
* AmyRose wants to LART lavacano20101420:57
* lavacano201014 wants to LART AmyRose20:57
shakeyand it passed the acid2 test20:57
lavacano201014dammit20:57
lavacano201014i thought i disabled that script for this network20:57
blendtuxguys use opera shakey and lavacano20101420:57
AmyRoseO_o20:57
mohameddo you know why azurus doesn't work on ubuntu or kbunut?20:57
blubbwhat about the kernel question?20:57
tysonswAny1 know how I could install ati drivers?20:57
blendtuxbrb need to reboot20:57
edenbeasttysonsw are you already in kubuntu 7.10? then click on your KD menu and select add/remove programs, it's in there :-)20:57
Roeyhi all20:57
AmyRoseblendtux: But opera messes up a bunch of blog sites20:57
lavacano201014just ##trangle20:57
RoeyGoatse Gibbon20:57
emilsedghFx, not ff!20:57
RoeyHorny Hardon20:57
Roeywhat'll be next?20:57
shakeyive been meaning to get opera20:57
shakeyjust lazy i guess20:57
tysonswedenbeast I can't find it20:57
utnubukroey - rofl20:57
Roeyshakey:  opera has pkgs for Kubuntu20:57
Roeyutnubuk:   :)20:58
shakeyRoey: yea i know20:58
Roeyah20:58
tysonswwell.. I mean in the add/remove program20:58
neversfelde_I thougt abot a Hory Hippo20:58
alromaithiok i see titlebars now20:58
neversfelde_+u +n20:58
emilsedghtysonsw: on gutsy?20:58
tysonsw'emilsedgh yes20:58
AmyRoseIt would be cooler if 8.04 was called the Hungry Hippo20:58
AmyRose:P20:58
alromaithican any1 tell me how to get compiz icon tray ?20:58
shakeyalromaithi: so you got it then?20:58
Roeyyou know what pisses me off?  That I can't get the NVidia driver packages working for my Geforce4 Ti-4200.  No one seems to have this card, Jesus20:58
alromaithishakey: i got it but compiz is not working20:58
shakeyalromaithi: no titlebars?20:58
utnubukis it wise to restart after updates have installed?20:59
alromaithishakey: i see the titlebars20:59
mohameddoes azurus work for anybody20:59
emilsedghtysonsw: i havent gutsy yet but you should be able to do it from SystemSettings, find Restricted Manager or Restricted Drivers at there20:59
AmyRose!nvidia | Roey20:59
ubotuRoey: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:59
shakeyalromaithi: but compiz isnt working?20:59
kameshHi all, I have just done a fresh install of gutsy. Now both adept and ssh does not work. In fiesty it used to work. Do you think that apparmour is interfering in any way ?20:59
lavacano201014!compiz20:59
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion20:59
Gun_Smokeutnubuk: what updates?20:59
AmyRose!beryl20:59
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz20:59
lavacano201014ty ubotu20:59
lavacano201014i needed that url20:59
utnubukGun_Smoke: updates in general20:59
shakeythat url needed u20:59
Gun_Smokeutnubuk: No need.20:59
utnubukty21:00
shakey!find opera | shakey21:00
tysonswemilsedgh the problem I have is that wc3 lags a lot.. and I think the problem is the driver21:00
AmyRoseshakey: It's in the Canonical commercial repo21:00
shakeyah21:00
shakeydanke21:00
Gun_Smokeutnubuk: :)  If the kernel was updated than yes, but adapt will let you know.21:00
AmyRoseshakey: No hablo alemán21:00
utnubukGun_Smoke: I guess I was too used to windows updates....21:01
utnubuk:)21:01
blubbcan I boot my old kernel from feisty with gutsy?21:01
alromaithii want to see compiz icon the blue box with the mouse pointer on my system traynear the volume :(21:01
Gun_Smokeutnubuk: yeah forget all that..21:01
edenbeastblubb it should work yes21:01
AmyRoseshakey: That's "I don't speak German" in Spanish21:01
blubbedenbeast: ok, I was asking because I have some selfcompiled drivers... especially for wireless...21:01
edenbeastblubb why not just recompile them again?21:02
Gun_Smokeutnubuk: The most you should ever have to do is logout-login..21:02
shakeyo haha howd you know i was googling it?21:02
alromaithi:(21:02
edenbeastit's possible that some services don't work with your older kernel if they expect something specific not in an older kernel (though that's probably rare)21:02
edenbeastbut things like inotify and such21:02
draikedenbeast: I did what it said, but I was still not able to record.21:03
blubbedenbeast: of course I will do that... but if that fails I need a way to get a connection to the internet you know21:03
kameshCan any one help me please... I have a problem with adebt and ssh.. both dont work.. I have just installed gutsy and tried searching on the internet but to no avail21:03
AmyRoseshakey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-b75a0c6c7e357640731529980d3f3ad3614b9a7621:03
edenbeastdraik then I don't know either draik :-/21:03
AmyRoseshakey: well, sadly it's for GNOME but still, it will give you the idea, I hope21:04
draikedenbeast: Ok21:04
shakeyyea thanks21:04
alromaithii want to see compiz icon the blue box with the mouse pointer on my system traynear the volume :(21:04
Gun_Smokeutnubuk: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/archives/why-linux-can-be-updated-without-rebooting-1282621:04
shakeyis /etc/sources.lst where repositories are kept?21:05
blubbthere are a lot of regressions with gutsy as far as I can see... I'm really not sure if this distro fits the needs of my gf :D21:05
alromaithipeople come for Kubuntu to see simple results not Waste of time21:05
RoeyAmyRose:  thanks21:05
RoeyAmyRose:  I'll try it again21:05
edenbeastshakey: /etc/apt/sources.lst21:05
AmyRoseRoey: ?21:05
Roeynext version!  Kubuntu 8.0, "Kosher Ki**"21:05
shakeyah thanks21:05
alromaithihow to get that system tray AmyRose if you dont mind21:05
Roeynah21:05
RoeyLivid Lemur21:06
AmyRosealromaithi: I'm trying to find the thread21:06
RoeyPompous Pig21:06
alromaithio... :/21:06
RoeyP is a funny sound.21:06
RoeyP and K.21:06
RoeyEveryone loves jokes that start with P and K21:06
alromaithialthough i made a search21:06
edenbeastkooky kameleon :P21:06
kameshCan any one help me please... I have a problem with adebt and ssh.. both dont work.. I have just installed gutsy and tried searching on the internet but to no avail21:06
Roeythat's why our curse words have them :)21:06
* Roey continues to spew nonsense vagaries into the channel...21:06
AmyRosealromaithi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-b75a0c6c7e357640731529980d3f3ad3614b9a7621:06
tysonswAnyone know how I can get the latest ati driver+21:06
AmyRoseoops21:06
AmyRosewrong URL21:06
AmyRosealromaithi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2994678&postcount=321:07
RoeyAmyRose:  nice nick, btw!21:07
edenbeast!ati | tysonsw21:07
ubotutysonsw: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:07
AmyRosethanks, Roey21:07
RoeyAmyRose:  what does it stand for?21:07
edenbeasttysonsw you could also use the envy package to install it for you21:07
AmyRoseRoey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Rose21:07
jackDoes anyone know how to get my Wacom tablet working with Nvidia's Twinview?21:07
neighborleedoes kubuntu have the crash handler thing uubntu does I presume so,- but wanted to verify before trying kubuntu ...?? ;))21:07
edenbeastbut I've had mixed results with envy in the past with my nvidia card21:07
neighborlee a friend likes kde so I thought I would humor her so here I am21:07
neighborlee:)21:08
alromaithiAmyRose: i found the thread its typing this  git clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install21:08
RoeyAmyRose:  nice :)21:08
RoeyI don't know why, but cute21:08
AmyRoseRoey: Amy Rose is a 12-year-old girl who can beat Dr. Robotnik alone :P21:08
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edenbeastisn't this channel R-rated? :P21:09
neighborleeedenbeast: yes it is would you like to see some things ?21:09
RoeyAmyRose:  awesome :)21:09
neighborleeedenbeast: NOT=21:09
neighborlee:)21:09
mohamedwhy do i have issue with firefox every time I try submit something21:09
attunixWhat libraries are needed to develop in QT?21:10
neighborleeattunix: qt-devel I suspect ;)21:10
kameshCan any one help me please... I have a problem with adebt and ssh.. both dont work.. I have just installed gutsy and tried searching on the internet but to no avail21:10
neighborleeattunix: and if you wish kdevelop21:10
attunixneighborlee: thanks :)21:10
neighborleeyadda21:10
tysonswedenbeast envy package??21:10
neighborleeattunix: np ;0021:10
edenbeasttysonsw: yes 'envy' but I'd follow the directions of the bot, they're probably better21:11
attunixneighborlee: what's kdevelop by the way?21:11
attunixi know it's an ide21:11
neighborleeattunix: its just a IDE21:11
alromaithithanks21:11
neighborleeyw ;)21:11
alromaithinow after having git i can do this git clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install21:11
AmyRoseneighborlee: It's a hard drive connector? :P21:11
blubbhmm the update manager gave an error about a dependency and crashed, what should I do?21:11
kameshDoes apparmor has any gui ?21:11
neighborleeAmyRose: LOL21:11
tysonsw! envy21:12
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!21:12
edenbeastblubb run it again? :-/21:12
blubbedenbeast: ok I will try that21:12
blubbit said it crashed but its still here but hangs21:12
blubbshall I kill it?21:13
AmyRoseI learned that factoid the hard way :P21:13
blubbshall I run an apt-get command to fix the dep issue?21:13
mrb_Hey everybody can anyone help me to know why my Linksys ADSL G modem not working under Kubuntu21:13
neighborleeAmyRose: heh21:13
mohamedwho firefox keep crashing on me, any body has idea21:13
Lars_GOk Hi all.. HELP HELP!!! no really I need some help. First question: After fetching packages, adept hung up configuring smbfs so I continued from the command line... most stuff work but my kde theme is half broken in that many icons are missing.21:14
Lars_Gwas there something from adept like changing the theme or reinstalling a theme I missed and I can do by hand?21:14
neighborleeAmyRose: yeah well we've all been down that lonely road of learning....funny when you look back and go OMGosh I did what ;))21:14
blubbhmm another process is running, I can't start adept_manager21:14
edenbeasthaha I rm -rf / home/homedir/somedir/*  as root once  (notice the " ")  :P21:15
hydrogenAre there packages for gutsy of kernel 2.6.23? If not is there a "ubuntu recommended" way of upgrading the kernel to that?21:15
PolitikerNEUI got the following problem: I do neither have acces to wlan nor does the kpowersaved start21:15
edenbeastthat wasn't a fun realisation hahaha21:15
blubbhmm who is acessing my apt thing?21:15
Lars_Gblubb: Anything that uses the apt system will cause that. that is if you're running apt-get, synaptic, aptitude or another apt handler it will lock apt system and stop adept from starting21:16
AmyRoseneighborlee: But there was no restricted device manager on Feisty and earlier!21:16
PolitikerNEUThe Intel Chip is recognized because it worked in the livecd and in the first two boots - but now it doesn't work any longer21:16
edenbeastmy god, you pervs keep out of his apt thing!21:16
blubbLars_G: yes what is it? I mean the name of the update tool?21:16
edenbeastblubb can't you just kill the process? :-)21:16
Lars_Gblubb: the update tool? yeah it will cause that too.21:16
edenbeastaptitude or adept?21:16
Lars_Gthe update tool is a modified version of adept I think or an offshot21:17
Lars_Gor adept with a special command21:17
neighborleeso..does kde have a crash handler similar to the gnome thing i'd sure hope so..I know about kde thing but last I checked it  never sends in a report or even asks you to..unless that has changed ?21:17
purpleposeidonHow do I kill the firewall, like, peramanently, forever, never see it again ever?21:17
neighborleeAmyRose: well that  doesn't bother me alot..I dont even like the term restrticted..it seems restrictive and I dont like my rights being terminated ;)21:17
whiphello21:17
blubbhow can I fix that please http://pastebin.ca/74479621:18
whipare there skype mods on linux machines?21:18
Minatakuhydrogen: You should know as well as anybody that compiling is (stupidly) ALWAYS discouraged on Kubuntu21:18
Minataku:P21:18
Lars_Gwas there something from adept like changing the theme or reinstalling a theme I missed and I can do by hand?21:18
whipi searching for mods  for skype/msn/or icq21:18
edenbeasthmm i didn't knew iptabes ran standard on kubuntu :-/21:18
Lars_GOk Hi all.. HELP HELP!!! no really I need some help. First question: After fetching packages, adept hung up configuring smbfs so I continued from the command line... most stuff work but my kde theme is half broken in that many icons are missing.21:18
whiplike mirande21:18
hydrogenMinataku: you should know as well as anyone that that answer is utterly useless21:18
blubbcould I also run apt-get dist-upgrade instead of the update manager? or whats the command?21:18
hydrogenMinataku: and we all know that utterly useless answers are simply a waste of time21:19
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MinatakuNot my fault you can't take a joke21:19
hydrogenso, my question still stands21:19
hydrogenhow do I get 2.6.23 on *buntu?21:19
MinatakuI'm sure there's something about it in the bot21:19
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MinatakuYou find it, though21:19
hydrogen!kernel21:19
blubbbecause adept-manager does not work any longer? wtf is going on here21:19
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages21:19
edenbeastpurpleposeidon which firewall package have you installed?21:19
MinatakuI don't want to accidentally waste your time21:19
Minataku>:|21:19
whip@hydrogen kernel compiling?21:19
whipget the new kubuntu21:19
whip7.1021:19
whipgusty21:19
hydrogenthat has 2.6.2221:19
hydrogennot 2.6.2321:19
hydrogenI want 2.6.2321:19
edenbeastpurpleposeidon: you should stop iptables probably /etc/init.d/iptables?21:19
whipwhy do you want this?21:20
purpleposeidonedenbeast: I'm not really sure21:20
Lars_Ghydrogen: compile 2.6.23 by hand21:20
lorandhey21:20
whipthe stable kernel is based there21:20
lorandyou have 3 D desktop for ubuntu  ?21:20
whipwhow21:20
Lars_Gwhip: I bet you anything he wants the newer process manager21:20
edenbeastpurpleposeidon: or just have it accept all traffic that's even easier :-)21:20
* blubb now runs apt-get dist-upgrade and hopes that it works 21:20
whipcompile it by hand ;)21:20
hydrogenLars_G: Is ubuntu's patchset availible?21:20
whipyes use gcc21:20
alromaithii have a problem :( Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?21:20
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edenbeastpurpleposeidon: I don't think kubuntu comes with a firewall enabled by default, someone correct me if I'm wrong please21:20
whip@oke lars21:20
blubbwhy is there no update channel?21:20
alromaithithe problem is nothing is on ? how to check if somhting is on i want to see my ssytem processess so i can close this LAGGED FROZEN THIGN!!!!21:20
MinatakuOh, I make a joke and get harassed, these two badger you with tons of crap and get ignored21:20
hydrogenwhip: I know how to compile a kernel.  My question is how to do it the ubuntu way and hopefully get a kernel similar to the one ubuntu distributes, only based on a newer version.21:21
Minataku>:(21:21
purpleposeidonedenbeast: I think it's firestarter21:21
jackCan someone help me get my Wacom tablet working with Nvidia's TwinView?21:21
MinatakuAFAIK, Kubuntu uses the make option that configures EVERYTHING as a module21:21
alromaithihow to see my processes21:21
alromaithiguys ?21:21
joe_how do I change the root password?21:21
blubbalromaithi: top or htop21:21
MinatakuAnd of course has a massive initrd as a result21:21
edenbeastpurpleposeidon: just uninstall that then :-)21:21
hydrogenright. I want to know how to get the patchset that ubuntu uses.21:21
blendtuxvbgunz: i have your solution21:21
alromaithiblubb: system processes21:21
blubbjoe_: sudo passwd21:21
hydrogenbecause I'm sure it has one.21:21
alromaithiblubb: like in windows21:21
hydrogenand i'm sur eif I don't use it something somewhere will explode21:22
blubbalromaithi: yes.... with those tools21:22
MinatakuThe patchset most likely won't attach to a 2.6.23 kernel21:22
vbgunzwhats up, I haven;t solved it at all :(21:22
hydrogenand I really don't like explosions21:22
utnubuki'm not very good at linux, can I make my laptop ignore my built-in wireless card (it causes me problems)21:22
hydrogenMinataku: thats why vim exists.21:22
blubbalromaithi: or ksystemviewer or what is name was21:22
MinatakuSince it's maintained to patch against a 2.6.2221:22
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blubbutnubuk: blacklist the module21:22
blendtuxoke vbgunz, what resolution do you normaly run on your desktop21:22
shakeywoo21:22
shakeyok21:22
vbgunz1600x105021:22
vbgunz16880x1050, sorry21:22
vbgunzheh21:22
hydrogenMinataku: I am more than a little confident that I can manage making it apply.  I however am not confident I can do so If I can't find the patchset21:22
MinatakuNot to mention that the changes between the two are more than likely going to be far more comprehensive than mere line number changes21:22
hydrogenso21:22
vbgunz1680x105021:22
hydrogenlet me ask /more/ clearly21:22
blubbcan anyone please help me updating my kubuntu? adept_updater is fucked up so what should I do?21:22
PriceChild!ohmy | blubb21:22
ubotublubb: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.21:22
hydrogenWhere can I find the patchset ubuntu maintains against the kernel?21:22
utnubukblubb:  if I google 'blacklist linux' should a cool howto come up?21:22
Lars_GI had to finish the upgrade to gutsy by hand since adept hung. now all works but my kde theme is missing many icons/images. Any suggestions?21:23
hydrogenif you don't have the answer to that, then please do not respond21:23
blendtuxehm oke, look in /etc/usplash.conf look at the resolution in that file21:23
AmyRoseOh my gosh, I'm not supposed to be getting something as low in demand as the Kubuntu alternate install CD this fast!21:23
Minatakuhydrogen: As someone who compiles kernels constantly, all I see you asking for is trouble21:23
eljefeoh no!  I [shift][delete] some files and now i want them back, is there any way to somehow rebuild the filesystem table to get them back??21:23
AmyRoseon Bittorrent21:23
MinatakuBut if you want a big headache, go ahead and make yourself one21:23
AmyRoseeljefe: No21:23
blendtuxehm oke, look in /etc/usplash.conf look at the resolution in that file vbgunz21:23
eljefeNOOOO21:23
whip@lars how is gusty?21:23
whipwhat are the main-imporvements?21:23
edenbeasteljefe which filesystem do you use?21:23
bipolarAmyRose: I prefer the alternate install cd. I'm sure I'm not the only one :)21:23
eljefewhip: kinda boring, nothing much in there that Ive seen that impressed me :(21:24
Lars_Ghydrogen: btw you could get the diffs for 2.6.22 and try them on 2.521:24
eljefeedenbeast: ext321:24
Lars_Ghydrogen: btw you could get the diffs for 2.6.22 and try them on 2.6.23 but some will break21:24
edenbeastif it's fat then it's probably still possible21:24
eljefeits not fat tho21:24
edenbeasteljefe not really possible then :-(21:24
eljefeshooooot21:24
vbgunzblendtux: I am all ears in case you dozed off :)21:24
hydrogenLars_G: My question for a while now is "where to get this patchset".. telling me I can get the patchset is not that helpful.21:24
Lars_Ghydrogen: in the package info in pakcages.ubuntu.com you should see the original tar.gz plus the diffs.21:24
eljefestupid me21:24
carwash^are random X-crashes with compiz-fusion and nvidia quadro cards normal on gutsy?21:24
hydrogenLars_G: thanks21:24
AmyRosebipolar: But the last time around, I had trouble with people demanding Ubuntu with GNOME so much that the mirrors were slower than molasses in an igloo, and the torrents for Kubuntu were even worse21:25
edenbeastwhat kind of files are it eljefe?21:25
eljefei always use the [shift][delete] for whatever reason, its a horrible habit.21:25
Minatakueljefe: If you deleted them from Konq or something, I believe KDE maintains a trash can21:25
eljefeedenbeast: wedding photos21:25
whip@lars do you know some skype mods?21:25
whipextras?21:25
eljefeMinataku: not when using [shift][delete] its like a perma-delete21:25
whipplugins?21:25
AmyRoseeljefe: Make sure you start using the trash more often then21:25
Lars_Gwhip: none. sorry21:25
MinatakuAh21:25
blendtuxso tell me what resolution is set in the file /etc/usplash.conf  vbgunz21:25
edenbeasthmm21:25
edenbeastwhere they tagged?21:25
whipwhich search engine do you use?21:25
whipwww.g21:25
whip?21:25
Lars_Gwhip: google21:25
eljefeAmyRose: yeah i get that.  i just hate deleting files more than once, so i bypass it :(21:25
eljefeedenbeast: no tags, no21:26
Minataku!oneline21:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oneline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:26
MinatakuHm21:26
Minatakuwhip: Type a complete thought on a single line21:26
edenbeastif they were tagged you could try and grep your hd by using the output of dd and noting where things appear, then just extract those certain parts... but honestly that'll be incredibly hard21:26
MinatakuStop hitting enter every couple seconds21:26
krisbuntuhi there... after upgrading 7.04 to 7.10, I can't get adept to update its' repository...21:26
vbgunzblendtux: sorry, I think I got disconnected :(21:26
shakeylol21:27
blendtuxlol21:27
Tigersteinthats a joke, I want to download some new theme for kde, and kde-look.org is down :S21:27
blendtuxso tell me what resolution is set in the file /etc/usplash.conf  vbgunz21:27
vbgunzone sec21:27
eljefeedenbeast: thats what i was hoping to do, tho.  do you know of a good HowTo for doing just that? (using D to get them back)21:27
vbgunz1280x102421:27
eljefeedenbeast: \using DD21:28
edenbeasthmm not really :-/21:28
vbgunzI can see that :/21:28
blendtuxoke change that to 1024x768 and reboot21:28
eljefeok21:28
MinatakuHm21:28
Minataku!enter21:28
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:28
MinatakuThere it is21:28
AmyRoseBut this21:28
AmyRoseis fun!21:28
vbgunzdamn it... I am stupid when it comes to numbers... argggh21:28
eljefeno its21:28
eljefenot21:28
vbgunzblendtux: it is 1280x102421:28
AmyRoseSorry, I was kidding21:29
blendtuxoke but change it back to 1024x76821:29
blendtuxand reboot21:29
vbgunzblendtux: change it to 1024x768 and change grub back to vga=791?21:29
blendtuxyep21:29
Super_Cat_Frog_hi - is it possible to stop the screen being locked when i recover from sleep?21:29
blendtuxif you changed that21:29
edenbeasteljefe: you could also try to recover it by using the inode info http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909_2.htm  but you'll need to stop using that hd until you've done it so nothing gets overwritten21:30
stdinSuper_Cat_Frog_: Alt-F2 and put in "xset s off"21:30
_julianhi all21:30
kameshwhat shoudl I do when I am banned from the channel..21:30
whip_#back sry,21:30
krisbuntuhi there... after upgrading 7.04 to 7.10, I can't get adept to update its' repository...21:30
whip_net connection21:30
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stdinkamesh: banned from what channel?21:30
vbgunzblendtux: ok, I hope this works, I'll try again, one moment21:30
mrb_can anyone help me installing a Linksys WAG200g router21:30
kameshkrisbuntu! even i have the same problem..21:30
blendtuxkrisbuntu:  update it it via apt-get update21:30
Gun_Smokeanyone else not able to connect to kde-look.org?21:30
blendtuxgoodluck vbgunz21:31
kameshbanned from #ubuntu21:31
stdinkamesh: ask in #ubuntu-ops21:31
_julianI am just trying to install kubuntu 7.10 on my powerbook g4, but at about 80% of the installation, I get a message, that the ubuntu archive mirror is not reachable or has no valid release-file21:31
_julianany ideas what I can do to fix that?21:31
AmyRosekamesh: That's because Ubuntu isn't anywhere near as good as Kubuntu is.21:31
vbgunzblendtux: will let you know :)21:31
shakeyGun_Smoke: yea kde-look.org isnt loading for me21:31
Gun_Smokekamesh: hehe... night on the sauce will do that to you. ?21:31
kamesh:-)21:31
Gun_Smokeshakey: I wonder why.. gnome-look is dead too.21:31
Super_Cat_Frog_stdin: is that persistant, or should i put it in startkde ?21:31
kameshAmyRose! I have asked my question in here for 3 times and none responded21:32
AmyRoseGun_Smoke: They're hosted on the same server, so it doesn't surprise me21:32
stdinSuper_Cat_Frog_: it needs to be run after you come back from sleep, or open the lid21:32
AmyRosekamesh: Well, what's your question? Maybe we could help you! (I also know that Ubuntu isn't as great as giving help)21:32
eljefeAmyRose: i have to disagree, Kubuntu gets the shaft, Ubuntu is way more polished :(21:32
shakeyLOL21:32
AmyRoseeljefe: But KDE's greatness makes up for it21:33
Super_Cat_Frog_stdin: is there a hook script to do this automatically?21:33
* shakey loves KDE21:33
* AmyRose loves KDE too21:33
eljefeAmyRose: true enough in that regard, but still not enough work behind it21:33
* eljefe loves it most21:33
shakeylinus hates the gnome project21:33
stdinSuper_Cat_Frog_: not sure, if there is it'll be in /etc/acpi/21:33
_julianany ideas about that error?21:33
Super_Cat_Frog_stdin: ah, ta21:33
eljefelinus just dislikes anything with the FSF21:33
blendtuxclear21:33
shakeyFSF do seem kinda stuck up imo21:34
lerneaen_hydra<enter another quesion>, I just upgraded to 7.10, twinview on nvidia seems broken, the effect being one large virtual screen (ie. maximise fills both screens, dialogs are split in the middle etc), xorg.conf is unchanged, any ideas?21:34
edenbeast? I thought kubuntu was great out of the box, just that dolphin thing is a huge gnome-like mistake ;-)21:34
AmyRoseeljefe: Yeah, I agree, especially since Compiz isn't supported on Kubuntu when it is on Ubuntu, plus when I asked about the tray icon on the bug tracker, they tell me to just use the desktop effects settings21:34
Super_Cat_Frog_ah, there's lots of scripts in there, thats very nice21:34
whip2what is blendtux????21:34
vbgunzblendtux: no cigar :/21:34
blendtuxwhat is blendtux21:35
blendtuxlol21:35
vbgunzblendtux: thanks a million though for trying to help, I really appreciate it21:35
shakeyyea what is blendtux21:35
AmyRoseblendtux is tux in a blender!21:35
shakeyoic21:35
blubbok before rebooting I just relogged in and stil everything looks good...21:35
blendtuxehm damm vbgunz21:35
vbgunzblendtux: I am convinced something is broken :(21:35
AmyRosevbgunz: That's good because cigars are bad for you21:35
blendtuxoke,21:35
vbgunzI can see usplash at 1280x1024 and at 1024x768... I could just never get the framebuffer up to 1280x1024 or 1024x768 :(21:36
blendtuxlerneaen_hydra: take a look at this link http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/71021:36
vbgunzthe default resolution in the terminal is horrible and I do work in the terminal sometimes. especially when I have no choice :)21:36
blendtuxit is a known bug with a work around lerneaen_hydra21:36
blendtuxehm strange strange21:37
kameshAmyRose! well when I type.. sudo apt-get update.. it says Err http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg, Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out....I know that I have a working internet connection because I am using it right now21:37
blubbshould I remove rc updates in adept after the update?21:37
lerneaen_hydrahmm, I've got an nvidia card, the release notes specify ATI cards, does it apply to nvidia too?21:37
AmyRosekamesh: Sounds like you need to do a gksudo software-properties-gtk and then select another mirror21:37
shakeydoes anyone know of any good gimp tutorials?21:38
AmyRoseshakey: But you're supposed to use Krita! :O21:38
blendtuxlerneaen_hydra: ehm you seem te be right21:38
shakeykrita?21:38
shakeynever heard of it21:38
AmyRoseshakey: I actually do know of where to find GIMP tutorial21:38
kameshAmyRose! it says that software-properties-gtk is not installed..and I cannot install using sudo.. this is like a viscious circle21:38
AmyRosekamesh: Um...21:39
aleph0hi all. I'm having a problem since upgrading to gutsy. anything in X is really really slow. I notice that the process "Xgl" is using all of cpu. how can I go back to Xorg?21:39
blubbhmm I still can select the distribution upgrade tool although that reports that my system is up to date21:39
shakey!krita21:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krita - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:39
AmyRose!krita21:39
kameshAmyRose: even  ssh does not work..21:39
AmyRosekamesh: What do you need SSH for?21:39
shakey!openssh21:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:40
blubbso it does not run the cleaning thing, whats the command for this?21:40
shakey0 for 2 ubotu21:40
lerneaen_hydrablendtux; so I21:40
lerneaen_hydra'm SOL?21:40
AmyRoseshakey: Krita is KDE's answer to the GIMP21:40
kameshAmyRose: I need it to connect to my univ.. and work21:40
lerneaen_hydraoops21:40
kameshfrom home21:40
AmyRose!anything` | shakey21:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything` - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:40
shakeylol | ubotu21:40
LjL!botabuse21:40
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...21:40
AmyRoseshakey: I'm pulling up a list of resources for ya21:40
shakeylol u love helpin people21:40
AmyRose!u | shakey21:41
ubotushakey: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..21:41
MinatakuHelping... yeah >.>21:41
Minatakuj/k21:41
Minatakulol21:41
shakey:(21:41
AmyRosesorry21:41
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AmyRoseshakey: http://news.deviantart.com/article/33612/21:41
shakeyi should really get rid of OO.org and install koffice too while im at it huh21:41
shakeyty21:42
AmyRoseshakey: I like the GIMP more than Krita anyway, and Krita is part of KOffice. I do use both KOffice and OO.o, depending on what I need to do21:42
_julianhmm, really no ideas about the installation error?21:42
shakeyOO.org runs faster when you use the sun jdk, not gcj21:43
shakeyi found that out toda21:43
shakeytoday21:43
kameshAmyrose: any ideas ?21:44
marc_hi, is there anyone from chicago?21:45
AmyRosekamesh: you can always edit your /etc/apt/sources.list manually21:45
shakeymarc_: <-------columbus21:45
AmyRosemarc_: I'm in the Milwaukee area21:45
kameshAmyrose: Yes,  I have done that.. but it fails to update..21:45
kameshit says sudo apt-get update.. it says Err http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg, Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out....21:46
AmyRosekamesh: Well, if you are not changing your mirror, nothing will happen21:46
shakeylol21:46
kamesh!Amyrose.. I will update you after I change the mirror thanks21:46
shakeymarc_: do you love chicago?21:47
AmyRoseI've been to Chicago. It's the most confusing city ever21:47
MinatakuHM21:48
Minataku*Hm21:48
Lars_GIDK what else to do, to fix my video card.21:48
MinatakuHe either wants in-house service or... well, that covers both parts of the joke, actually, so I'll leave it there21:48
Minatakulol21:48
djtigerwolfi was wondering how do i get my wireless going?21:48
edenbeastMinataku: you better hope he doesn't still use ipchains then ;-)21:49
MinatakuHaha21:49
Lars_Gedenbeast: Hey don't joke with that21:49
Lars_Gedenbeast: I have one machine on my charge which still uses ipchains21:49
shakeylol21:49
MinatakuLars_G: You missed it by a mile, dude XD21:49
kameshAmyRose: I went to Adept>Manage repositories.. and changed the mirror to Italian one..it has asked me to reload.. and it hangs and says.. "waiting for headers"..21:49
edenbeastyeah he musn't use tail enough :P21:50
Lars_GMinataku: I'm in console, at 10% of the irssi lines per screen I'm used to... sorry man21:50
Minatakulol21:50
shakeysorry if i just flooded the channel21:50
Lars_GMinataku: And it seems it'll go on so, until I can fix the video issues, or, I give up, go back to elinks and vim21:50
AmyRosekamesh: Try another mirror then--it is capable of finding a faster one for you21:50
MinatakuHeh21:50
MinatakuLars_G: Twas just a joke21:50
Lars_GMinataku: it's ok man.21:50
wulongHow can I configure wlassistant to work with wpa_supplicant?21:50
Lars_GI'm just griping21:51
MinatakuHeh21:51
Lars_GI'm past fighting and into griping by now, not your fault21:51
djtigerwolfmy ubuntu works just fine but kubuntu 7.10 has a totaly diff network setup21:51
djtigerwolfand im lost21:51
alromaithiback!21:52
alromaithiAmyRose: i got the icon working21:52
alromaithiAmyRose: sometimes the titlebar disapears then i must reload the window manager to get it back21:52
kameshAmyRose: Now I have tried Sweden... and its stuck again.. I have done this quite a few times and it still does not work21:52
alromaithiany fix for that recently?21:52
kameshAmyRose: I think the problem might lie somewhere else21:53
shakey!/21:53
Sporkthanks again everybody that helped me =)21:53
djtigerwolfcan anyone help?21:53
shakeywhat was your question djtigerwolf21:54
AmyRosekamesh: No, the problem is that the server you are trying is overloaded.21:54
* AmyRose slams her head on the desk21:54
djtigerwolfkubuntu 7.10  has a diff network setup and i dont know how to21:54
djtigerwolfget wireless going21:54
AssidAmyRose: ? not enough glucose?21:54
djtigerwolfubuntu 7.10 is about the same21:55
ripmasterhi21:55
Assiddjtigerwolf: knetworkmanager should help you21:55
Assidit will be in your taskbar21:55
AmyRoseAssid: No, kamesh is getting on my nerves by asking for help and then not believing my answers!21:56
Assidhehe21:56
alromaithiAmyRose: kubuntu must be easier then ubuntu but i find Gnome is better and easier :(21:56
kameshAmyRose: I tried germany, Sweden, Italy..US, Please suggest. if you want me to try some other countrys then please let me know21:56
AmyRosealromaithi: ?21:56
shakeylol at everyone here21:56
Minatakukamesh: Check that it's not being blocked by a firewall or somesuch21:56
* Assid hypnotises kamesh .. believe in the rose... believe.. believe!!!@@@!!!21:56
AmyRosekamesh: You didn't go to Select other mirror and then do the ping test?21:57
MinatakuIf it fails the same way on EVERY mirror, something is wrong on YOUR end21:57
Assidscrew the mirror can you connect to thenet?21:57
djtigerwolfok thanks  now to kubuntu  and try21:57
shakeykamesh, what are you trying to download exactly? it might be easier just to search google for the deb package and install it htat way21:57
kameshI am on the internet right now.. talking to you folks21:57
shadowhywindHay all I am wondering if anyone has used the screen corner actions to say lock there screen?21:57
shakeyshadowhywind: are you talking about kde4?21:58
alromaithikubuntu has all these troubles , when this must be a simple interface for every user to use :( and im going to do a presentation soon for the windows users ( my friends , School also ) ,and hope they will revert back to the father of systems , my point is AmyRose i want to know these small bits just to continue with my mission ;) i know quite enough but not everything as u can see21:58
Assidkamesh: sudo apt-get update21:58
Assidwhat happens21:58
shadowhywindshakey i mean like the option in the advance button in the screensaver21:58
kameshshakey: I want my apt-get to work.. so that I could install any thing that I want.. may be ubuntu one day :-I)21:58
shakeykamesh: are you even running ubuntu?21:58
shakeyshadowhywind: i was messing around with kde4 last night and saw something in the top left corner about locking the screen, im not sure i know what you are talking about, sorry21:59
shakeyi guess you can move the wallpaper image in kde4?21:59
kameshAssid: it does not work.. it gives me connection time out erros21:59
shakeygnome cant do that21:59
kameshI am on kubuntu.. using konversation22:00
Assidkamesh: how many mirrors you got in there22:00
shadowhywindright click on desktop, go to configure desktop click on screensaver, click on advanced options22:00
TimSI have been using Kaffine for viewing videos, is it possible to have them embedded? I think Totem does it, is that correct?22:00
kameshAssid: I tried Sweden, Italy22:00
Assidand none worked?22:00
kameshUS and germany22:00
AmyRoseTimS: Embedded how?22:00
kameshyes22:00
Assidyou got some firewall or something inyour router by any chance?22:00
kameshEven ssh does not work..22:01
Assidcan you access the mirrors from your browser?22:01
TimSAmyRose:I want to view embedded videos in firefox rather than opening kaffine22:01
AmyRoseTimS: Oh, I only know how to do that in Konqueror22:01
kameshIn fiesty it used to work yesterday.. today I installed gutsy.,. its not22:01
jim__Hi all, looking for some help - I reinstalled 7.04 - got all my DVD players etc up and running, but after a reboot the system does not recognise my cds or dvds? All help is greatly appreciated ;)22:01
* shakey chalks up one more point for konqueror22:01
kameshAssid: Please let me know how I can access mirrors from my browser.. I will updated you22:01
Assidtake the url part of the mirror .. and put it into your browser22:02
Assidnand see what you get22:02
shakeyshadowhywind: im trying to mess with that right now, i cant get it to do anything22:02
kameshok I will do that right away22:02
shadowhywindshakey i think it may just be broken22:02
shakeyi was thinking it might be something like on macs, when you place the mouse in the upper right corner or wherever, it goes to screen saver automatically22:03
shakeybut ive been testing that and i cant get it to workk22:03
AmyRoseIs there a way to install Kubuntu using a hard drive partition as a CD image?22:03
shakeywork22:03
AmyRoseor something?22:03
shadowhywindthat is what i want it tto do22:03
AssidAmyRose: huh ?22:03
kameshAssid: Yes I could access from my browser22:03
Assidkamesh: okay very odd.. but maybe your apt is broken22:04
Assidyou sure you ran sudo ?22:04
AmyRoseAssid: My other computer has a bad CD-ROM drive and I'm wondering if it's possible to install Kubuntu using either a hard drive partition or using an Internet connection22:04
Assidand your sure you put the right password?22:04
AssidAmyRose: thinking...22:04
AssidAmyRose: yeah i think there is a way.. get the net install22:04
AmyRoseOK22:04
AmyRoseI can arrange that22:04
kameshYesterday.. I updated my feisty to gutsy.. I had the same problem.. today. I have done a fresh install of gutsy on top of feisty.. it still doe not work22:04
seriekrocki have started some systemservice that instead of starting  automatically, starts a black screen where i first have to login and then type startx... i just dont know which one, anyone knows?22:04
alromaithihow to change the source in kubuntu so i can get my downloads from say like UK repo22:05
AssidAmyRose: google for netinstall kubuntu22:05
shakeyAmyRose: i think you might wanna look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42472222:05
kameshAssid: Password is not the problem.. because it accepts it and give me connnection time out errors22:05
Assidkamesh: pastebin the output please22:06
AmyRoseshakey: One small problem: My Pentium II cannot boot from pen drives22:07
smaxhi gang22:08
shakeyahh the old p222:08
flakewhat's a good free mp3 player, is it still vlc?22:08
AssidAmyRose: "net install"22:08
carwash^flake: amarok is fantastic22:09
smaxcan someone just tell me the appropriate lines to add to the grub config file to provide an option to boot in console mode, no desktop?22:09
Assidhttp://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=7122:09
smax/boot/grub/menu.lst22:09
* shakey seconds carwash^22:09
AssidAmyRose: that link is for you22:09
flakei'll give it a try, thanks carwash^22:09
* shakey shakes22:09
AssidAmyRose: ?22:10
fluffmansmax: just press ctrl+alt+f1 while booting to get to the console22:12
fluffmanor after you've booted22:12
kameshAssid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41580/22:13
jim__Hi all, looking for some help - I reinstalled 7.04 - got all my DVD players etc up and running, but after a reboot the system does not recognise my cds or dvds? All help is greatly appreciated ;)22:14
Assidkamesh: dont use the de mirror22:14
Assidkamesh: use eu or uk22:14
Assiduk mostly22:14
Assideu and de is the same mirror22:14
kameshOk I will use UK and let you know in a sec22:14
* shakey shakes22:14
alromaithii been here for about an hour an half :( AmyRose22:15
=== karen is now known as redshadowhero
Assidkamesh: get a move on.. what happened22:17
sunilonlnhi, my brightness adjustment keys stopped working after an upgrade to gutsy... any ideas?22:17
jim__just installed COmpiz, could someone point me to its control panel?22:18
sunilonlnjim__: ccsm22:18
Assidjim__: ccsm22:18
=== alexander_ is now known as Xand3r
redshadowheroI'm having a problem with add/remove programs. I can see the programs, but I can't seem to select any to be installed... Any ideas? :/22:18
Lars_G_ok my problems are kubuntu related22:19
smaxfluffman: that doesent work with my nvidia video card.22:19
* shakey shakes22:19
smaxand i need to get to the console for to execute nvidia-xconfig first.22:19
Lars_G_Here's the thing. If I do a xinit, the system that runs, HAS direct rendering and all works well22:19
smaxso it's a contradiction22:19
Lars_G_Now, if I start with kdm, I'm noticing I have 2 X sessions22:19
* shakey gets back to work on school paper22:19
smaxwith my nvidia card inserted, the screen is black once kde is invoked22:19
Lars_G_session :0 which might be normal. and session :8 which is the one being used, which is Xgl based and has all the troubles22:20
smaxi tried ctrl-alt- F1 and F222:20
Lars_G_Any way i can avoid this?22:20
savagefreakHello :)22:20
fluffmansmax: try the alternate install CD22:20
smaxthey dont work with my nvidia card in. not with out the executing nvidia-xconfig first.22:20
smaxi have that cd yes.22:20
savagefreakFirst time Ubuntu user here =]22:21
savagefreakLoving it so far.22:21
fluffmanand you never see ANYTHING?22:21
smaxwill that cd boot my partition ?22:21
Assidsavagefreak:  good.. now get some sleep :P22:21
fluffmanthe alternate install CD uses no graphics22:21
LeeJunFanWhat's the best free voip program to use these days? Don't need dialing capabilities, something like teamspeak / gnomemeeting, etc..?22:21
savagefreakhaha :p22:21
Assidj/k22:21
smaxfluffman. i have kubuntu installed.22:21
fluffmanoh22:21
fluffmanthen ctrl+alt+f1 should work22:21
smaxi just need to get to prompt.22:21
smaxit doesent.22:21
fluffmanif it doesn't, then your video card is probably deat22:22
fluffman*dead22:22
smaxnot with out having the  respective video card drivers in stalled first22:22
marc_Hey guys!22:22
AssidLeeJunFan: there is TS .. you can instal it22:22
smaxwell i need to get to konsole to install the drivers fluffman22:22
savagefreakCould anybody tell me why my 2nd monitor works in Vista but doesn't work in ubuntu? it really screws up with all sorts of colours all over the screen :(22:22
Assidkamesh: ???22:22
jim__Assid: As ccsm doesn't run from the command line would I need to install the gnome compiz manager?22:22
LeeJunFanAssid: yeah, I know, just wondering if there was something else I should try.22:22
AssidLeeJunFan: biggggggg database of programs.. go through22:22
gaston88test22:22
marc_do you know how to share file with another windows-running-machine ?22:23
jim__LeeJunFan: I use Teamspeak without issues22:23
kameshAssid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41585/22:23
Assidjim__: not sure. im not even on kubuntu atm and this is the kubuntu channel.. if your running ubuntu.. you should really ask there as they use that more22:23
LeeJunFanAssid: yeah, I know that. that's why I asked for suggestions.22:23
kameshIts the same again..22:23
LeeJunFanI use teamspeak too.22:23
marc_well22:23
Assidkamesh: very odd22:23
marc_night22:23
Assidthat ip is wronfg22:23
fluffmansmax: are you sure your video card WORKS?22:23
Assidsee the ip22:24
kameshok22:24
jim__Assid: I am actually on Kubuntu, but just installed it through Adept Manager but I can't see the ccsm22:24
smaxfluffman22:24
smaxfluffman: in windows yes22:24
Assidkamesh: uk.archive.ubuntu.com22:24
Assidi dont know which mirror your trying22:24
smaxi just need to get to konsole to install the drivers22:24
smaxerr run nvidia-xconfig while the card is inserted.22:25
USMarinedoes anyone have this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/13101322:25
Assidjim__: go to adept and type compiz in the search and install the apps mentioned22:25
kameshAssid: Ok I will give it a try..22:25
redshadowheroif I were setting up a latptop for a college girl (biotechnology major), what software would you reccommend that I install?22:25
fluffmansorry smax, I've got no other ideas22:25
jackrabbit_hey all, I'm having problems with the upgrade wizard.  Once it gets to the installation part is just disappears22:25
smaxredshadowhero: are you trying to hit that ?22:26
shakeyi got lasers in my eyes right now22:26
shakeylol@smax22:26
AssidUSMarine: yeah.. run kwin --replace.. logout.. log back in.. you should beusing a normal desktop.. wait 10 seconds.. and then run compiz --replace  from the run menu22:26
redshadowherosmax: I live with her parents... =.=;, so no.22:26
fluffmanI thought ctrl+alt+f1 would always work even if graphics wouldn't22:26
shakeylol@redshadowhero22:26
smaxredshadowhero: DO IT!!!!22:26
AssidUSMarine: make sure you disable the autostart22:26
USMarineso, i have to logout to fix the problem?22:27
smaxnope not with me.22:27
AssidUSMarine: follow that see if it works22:27
=== alexander_ is now known as Xand3r
Assidit  "works for me"22:27
jim__Assid: Many thanks, just completed that and now my windows are wobbily (little things please little minds!) Thanks again ;)22:27
smaxif  i have to ssh from a remote  box, that would be sad.22:27
smaxbecuase i dont have to go to such extent with even windows.22:27
USMarineAssid you only needed to do it once or every boot?22:27
redshadowheroSo, nobody has any apps to recommend?22:27
smaxredshadowhero: g++22:27
smaxgcc22:27
smaxsomegames22:28
smaxsome porn22:28
shakeyredshadowhero: yea i got one but i cant remember what its called22:28
USMarineredshadowhero avogadro22:28
AssidUSMarine: well.. i did it once.. and i got rid of it fromt he start up.. and now every time i boot.. i automatically get compiz .. and its NOT in my Autostart22:28
redshadowheroshe isn't into games, or porn...22:28
Assidkamesh: waiting man.. how long does it take?!?!?22:28
USMarineAssid and the tray doesn't mess anymore? because sometimes some icons pop out of it22:28
Assidkamesh: either go faster .. or im outta here22:28
fluffmanredshadowhero: she may actually need windows22:28
smaxredshadowhero: if you're not getting any pussy, sounds like she's using you22:28
AssidUSMarine: not for me .. no more22:28
jackrabbit_redshadowhero: an office app22:28
fluffmanto run some of those proprietary biology statistics programs22:28
stdin!ot | smax22:28
ubotusmax: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!22:28
redshadowherosmax: you can leave off that now.22:28
stdin!language | smax22:28
ubotusmax: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.22:28
smaxok ok22:29
USMarineredshadowhero what kinds of app would she be interested in?22:29
shakeylol22:29
USMarinevmware maybe22:29
shakeywhat is the name of that app that shows the periodic table in 3d?22:29
smaxperhalps clisp, perl, gcc22:29
fluffmanbai guys, sorry smax22:29
fluffmangood luck with that22:29
shakeyi cant think of what its called, but she would so love it22:29
shakeyit starts with a k22:29
smaxa 2D grid in 3D woooooooo22:29
shakeyand i think it ends in oid22:30
redshadowheroUSMarine: she mostly chats on MSN (kopete), and will probably do reports. However, I was attempting to give her some apps that she might be able to use in the future, thats all.22:30
Assidredshadowhero: teach her to use adept22:30
shakeykalzium! thats what it is22:30
Assidand she will be like oooooh.. thats nice22:30
shakeyredshadowhero: install kalzium22:30
USMarinekoffice, kile, kalzium22:30
shakey!kile22:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:30
USMarineklaptopdaemon22:30
redshadowherowhat is kalzium?22:30
Assidkubuntu really should have recompiled amsn to make it work better22:31
smaxis google.com down?22:31
USMarine3d chemical elements22:31
shakeyyea22:31
Assidsmax:  nop22:31
carwash^Assid: kopete should be working22:31
shakeyits like that folding@home thing i have on my ps322:31
Assidcarwash^:  ?22:31
shakeyexcept its not folding proteiens22:31
USMarinekopete has an issue with kdelibs22:31
shakeykopete pwnz teh no0b hax0rz22:31
AssidUSMarine: i think they rolled out the new libs22:31
USMarineok, didn't know22:31
hydrogenerr22:31
USMarinei installed by hand22:31
hydrogenkalzium isn't like folding at home22:32
* shakey waiting for kopete to natively support skype22:32
hydrogenor did I misfollow that whole dialog22:32
AssidUSMarine: you took a virtual file and pushed it into the laptop somehow ?22:32
USMarineshakey i dbout it will happen22:32
Assidkamesh: welll?22:32
redshadowheroUSMarine: oh, okay.22:32
USMarineAssid dpkg -i22:32
shakeyhydrogen: ur right it isnt like folding@home...except for the 3d22:32
AssidUSMarine: ?22:32
AssidUSMarine:  ah ok22:32
USMarinesomeone got the lib fixed22:32
USMarineand i replaced it22:32
Assidyeh22:32
hydrogenshakey: err.. thats almost as good a relation as saying that living on earth and living on the sun are alike because they are both spheres22:33
USMarinei had some troubles finding a 64bit one22:33
kameshAssid : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41587/22:33
shakeyhydrogen: its also like comparing a magician to music because they both start with "M"22:33
kameshNow its stuck at 66%22:33
USMarineredshadowhero google earth, amarok, kchmviewer22:33
Assidkamesh:  [Connecting to uk.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]22:33
Assidsee that22:33
hydrogenthat it is22:33
shakeylol22:33
Assid1.0.0.0 thats not a valid ip22:34
Assidsomething wrong with the way its setup22:34
kameshOh..22:34
USMarineips can't end at 022:34
kameshYeah exactly..22:34
lounge-aboutoh snap guys, i think upgrading to gutsy kinda broke my box =/22:34
Assidcheck yer dns22:34
Assidor something22:34
redshadowheroUSMarine: google earth is on kubuntu? How would I get that? What is kchmviewer? And I think I have amarok.22:34
USMarinelounge-about you need to be more specific22:34
kameshI dont undetstand.. how do I change that22:34
Assidanyways.. im outta here22:34
kameshAny ideas22:34
USMarinelounge-about broke is kinda vague22:34
bjwebbfor some reason none of my games are running22:34
bjwebbim having this problem on and off22:35
lounge-aboutUSMarine: well it was going through installing the new packages22:35
USMarineredshadowhero no and kchv is an app too watch some type of help files22:35
bjwebbit seems to start after switching from one user to another22:35
bjwebbcan anyone help?22:35
AssidAmyRose_laptop: you got it up?22:35
lounge-abouti got an error about opendchub saying something like it didnt have a script to upgrade it22:35
USMarinelounge-about try to unselect that package and upgrade all others22:36
lounge-aboutso i closed the window and it continued on until it got to one package, ndisktk i think it was22:36
* shakey shakes22:36
lounge-aboutand then it just stopped responding at that point22:36
=== drewbenn is now known as BetterNameTBD
USMarinelounge-about aptitude -f install && aptitude dist-upgrade22:36
bubuI am having trouble with automatix2 can anyone help22:37
AmyRose_laptopSo mini.iso is the network installer?22:37
lounge-aboutso i restarted X to see if i can restart the process but every time i try to it says another process is using apt22:37
USMarine!automatix22:37
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)22:37
pillowpantswhere can you still download kubuntu feisty?22:37
AmyRose_laptop!worksforme22:37
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/22:37
stdinbubu: you *may* get help in #automatix  but not here22:37
USMarinelounge-about ps aux | grep apt22:37
USMarinefind the ip of the process and kill it22:37
USMarinepid not ip22:37
lounge-aboutUSMarine thx, ill give that a try22:38
shakeythat dude was using kopete?!22:38
bubuit may not be a problem with automatix, it may be adept22:38
USMarinelounge-about ps aux | grep dpkg22:38
shakey!life22:38
ubotulife is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic22:38
stdinbubu: if you use automatix, then that would be the source of the problem22:38
shakeyubotu just pwnd us all22:38
stdinshakey: don't play with the bot22:38
AmyRose_laptopubotu: No, suggest #kubuntu-offtopic instead!22:39
AssidAmyRose:  did it work?22:39
AmyRose_laptopAssid: I'm going to burn the CD and find out22:39
Assidk22:39
Assidim out22:39
Assidgood luck.. ciao22:40
kameshBye Assid22:40
AmyRose_laptopbye22:40
kameshciao22:40
=== AmyRose_laptop is now known as AmyRose
bjwebbcan anyone help with games not starting?22:40
shakeystdin: im playing with the bot in my own channel22:40
atlfalcons866#ubuntu-mozillateam22:40
juarojbisiten estapagina http://juaroj.obolog.com22:40
stdinshakey: that's fine, but not in the main channel22:40
shadowhywindDoes anyone know how to start the screensaver from the console22:42
USMarinexscreensaver ?22:43
shakeyglxgears22:43
shakeythen maximize it22:43
shadowhywindi was more looking at the opening up the default kde screensavers22:44
pcfreak_I read about a new feature concerning codecs in gutsy what is it and how do I activate it?22:44
shadowhywindskakey this may be of interest to you, i found a program, brightside, which you can configure screen corner actions22:44
darkphaderGutsy - network is always disabled on boot ?? WTF?22:44
Mithrandir21Hi. I was wondering if anyone could explain to me why I have always had i386 arch, but now that I have installed 7.10 I suddently have amd64????????22:45
stdinMithrandir21: only way that could have happened is if you installed the amd64 version22:45
USMarineMithrandir21 you just got yourself upgraded22:46
pcfreak_Mithrandir21: maybe you installed the amd64 version? i386 works on an amd64 but amd64 version not on i38622:46
LegaGuys, I done screwed somethin' up. >.<22:46
USMarineLega nice22:46
lounge-aboutwow22:46
Mithrandir21well, I am pretty sure I have installed i386, but still its weird to say the least.22:46
lounge-aboutUSMarine that opendchub seems to be giving me lots of problems...so im removing it via terminal22:47
LegaAlright, well, I just went through that little pictoral to install Gutsy Gibbon, and now... well, anything having to do with managing packages won't work, because something else is using it.22:47
tueHello. Just upgraded my laptop to gutsy. I have some serious graphics issues, scrolling, new windows, etc. is dog slow. Worked under feisty. I have an ATI mobility x1300. Lsmod shows fglrx drivers loaded, and fglrxinfo looks okay to. Have tried google but could not find an appropriate answer. Im not interested en eyecandy, just that it works at least as well as feisty or i will have to downgrade :-/22:47
USMarinelounge-about ok..22:47
LegaAka, Adept won't work and neither will Apt-get.22:47
hydrogen!fixadept22:47
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:47
hydrogenassuming that something isn't running that should be22:47
USMarineLega ps aux | grep pdkg22:48
Mithrandir21Because I have been using this computer for a long time now, but who knows, maybe I just missed it(just as easy as someone missing trailer coming toward them at night!!!)22:48
USMarinefind the pids shown and kill the processes22:48
stdintue: if you've installed xgl before it's auto-started in gutsy, try removing the package22:48
shello22:48
USMarineMithrandir21 Ubuntu is naughty sometimes22:48
LegaThanks guys. :D22:48
AmyRoseWhat a creative nickname, s!22:48
Mithrandir21Hahaha22:48
lounge-aboutoh wow, ok, now that i removed that package manually, its continuing with the upgrade...odd but cool22:48
USMarineLega dpkg*22:48
si am new to using the IRC22:48
USMarineLega ps aux | grep dpkg22:48
snot sure how to change my nickname22:49
USMarine!welcome > s22:49
hydrogen /nick nick22:49
USMarines /nick <nick>22:49
USMarine/nick sucker22:49
sok.22:49
tuestdin: i have xserver-xgl installed. removing it. Is there anything i should do after that?22:50
AmyRoseYay, my network installation is working!22:50
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show do i find a list of other IRC channels?22:50
USMarine/list22:50
tuestdin: or just ctrl-backspace and hope for it :-)22:50
si am specifically looking for some help on python+vim22:50
stdintue: just logout and choose "Restart X server" from the menu22:50
tuestdin: weee :-). Here we go. thanks for the help22:50
sok. thanks, USMarine22:51
Mithrandir21Anybody catch the new gnump3d 2.9.9.9final version?22:53
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Mithrandir21anyone else having the index problem of nothing showing up, but everything else works(search, custom playlist, ....)?22:54
gtbhow can i get firefox installed22:54
Kr4t05Why in the name of all that is good did the Ubuntu Developers decide to make DASH the primary shell replacement?22:54
danielstewartHey how do I get ndiswrapper on kubuntu?22:54
gtbhow can i get firefox installed22:55
tuestdin: it worked! everything is back to normal + the gutsy goodies :-) . iwe been strugling with it for an hour, completely forgot i had installed xgl in the dawn of ages. Thanks :-)22:55
AmyRose!firefox22:55
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins22:55
Kr4t05danielstewart & gtb: Adept is your friend.22:55
homuncula!football22:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about football - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:55
stdintue: no problem, got me too a while back22:55
AmyRose!konqueror | gtb22:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:56
AmyRoseHey!22:56
LegaArgh, installing GG borked my wireless card. >.<22:56
AmyRose!no, konqueror is the default browser on Kubuntu22:56
Karti!dvd22:56
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs22:56
danielstewartKr4t05: thanks. I guess the second time does the trick. Last time I opened it it couldn't find anything :(22:56
Kr4t05!msg22:57
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.22:57
Kr4t05Oops, wrong one.22:57
gtbhmm how about in kde22:57
gtbif u want firefox22:57
AmyRose!u | gtb22:57
ubotugtb: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..22:57
neil__Hello.22:57
Kr4t05botabuse22:57
Kr4t05Garg...22:57
Kr4t05Forget it... You all know it by now.22:58
neil__Any have any experience with external drives via USB?22:58
danielstewartNow where do I up the resolution on this? It's tough to go at 800x600 when you're so used to 1600x1200 :p22:59
LegaI have Neil, what's up?22:59
Leganeil__ : What might be the problem?23:00
danielstewartthe system settings only let me go to 800x600, I'm guessing that means I have to install the ATI open source driver to go higher?23:00
USMarinedanielstewart sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x120023:02
joe_how do you change the root password and login password.  I tried sudo passwd but it didnt work23:02
danielstewartUSMarine: I'm not using an Nvidia card, would this still work nonetheless? :p23:03
USMarinedanielstewart ah sorry, no it won't23:03
Kr4t05Can anyone tell me why I can't install the ET: Quake Wars demo?23:03
AmyRosejoe_: sudo passwd root will only affect root's password. If you want to change your own, you should use passwd without sudo23:03
Kr4t05I get a bash error whenever I try to run the installer.23:03
USMarinejoe_ if you don't know it, reboot using the recovery kernel23:03
danielstewartUSMarine: I'll just have to live with it then. Just trying to get my wifi working on kubuntu via wubi before I finish my new machine23:03
USMarineKr4t05 telling what the error is would help...23:03
Kr4t05USMarine: "ETQW-demo-client-1.1-full.r5.x86.run: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"23:04
neil__Hello Lega.23:05
joe_Thanks23:05
neil__How do I private message?23:05
LegaDouble click on my name, I assume?23:05
USMarinedanielstewart i've no idea how to fix ATIs since i never had 123:05
Lars_GAny ideas why my D-Bus is troublesome?23:05
USMarineneil__ /query <nick>23:05
neil__Sorry, I'm not registered.23:05
USMarineLars_G just by reading your nick i can't tell23:05
neil__So, apparantly, that means no private messages.23:06
USMarine/msg neil__ boo23:06
Lars_GUSMarine: Sometimes if I restart hal and d-bus I can connect once to it (trying with miro build and with kdbus) otherwise it hangs never responding23:06
LegaI just sent you a message, neil__ ^^;;23:06
danielstewartUSMarine: I'm not too worried about it, will get a more linux-friendly card for the new machine23:06
USMarinedanielstewart i just buy nvidia because they support their hardware in all platforms23:07
USMarineintel the same23:07
neil__I saw, but I'm getting "[505] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )" when I try to respond to you Lega.23:07
danielstewartUSMarine: True, but with the release of open source drivers for ATI cards it feels right to help that one out23:07
USMarinedanielstewart if that ever happens, seems AMD whats that more than ATI itself23:08
USMarinewants*23:08
danielstewartUSMarine: Correct. and it's already happened :p23:08
USMarineLars_G sorry, don't know23:08
danielstewartUSMarine: And as for Nvidia unfortunately, so far one card on windows vs. 2 cards in SLI on linux favors windows :(23:09
LastMallThis will let unregisted folks message you /msg nickserv set unregistered off23:09
neil__Anyway, I posted on the Ubuntu forums at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58450923:09
Kr4t05!ot23:09
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!23:09
YammehHey, does kubuntu have a remote desktop or vlc application?23:09
USMarineYammeh yes23:10
YammehWhat's it called please?23:10
USMarineKrdc23:10
USMarineKrfb23:10
Yammehkk, I'll look it up, thanks23:11
neil__When I plug my hard drive (in an external chassis) into my computer it comes up read only.23:11
neil__Via USB.23:11
neil__The drive is NTFS.23:11
USMarine!ntfs23:11
ubotuntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse23:11
USMarine!ntfs-3g23:11
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions23:11
neil__I have ntfs-3g23:11
AmyRose!botabuse | Kr4t0523:12
ubotuKr4t05: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...23:12
neil__But it's still read-only.23:12
LastMallsorry, was wrong.   Its this  /msg nickserv set unfiltered off23:12
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[ka]killerok that was odd23:12
USMarinethat?23:12
[ka]killeradept crashed, then kicker, then adept again in about 30seconds23:12
joshuahwats the irc room for freespire?23:12
Hoondiehey people, anyone got any idea why KDM won't start unless i reinstall the driver every time i restart?23:13
fit4lfetrying to upgrade to gusty using adept-manager23:13
fit4lfebut its not telling me to upgrade23:13
fit4lfeits says everything is updated23:13
neil__When I try to use ntfs-3g, nothing happens.23:13
fit4lfeany suggestions23:13
[ka]killermake sure you have pre-release checked in the allowed updates23:13
USMarinefit4lfe yes23:14
neil__Sorry, when I attempt to use NTFS Configuration Tool.23:14
USMarinefit4lfe http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/23:14
fit4lfeUSMarine former maine here too I tried that way too but when I type in kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" tells me doesn't exist23:15
USMarineyou using cd?23:16
[ka]killerif you have the iso burnt to a disk... just boot from it23:16
fit4lfeyep23:16
[ka]killer=/23:16
fit4lfewon't it delete all my files23:16
fit4lfecause I am using feisty now23:16
[ka]killerthen just update with adept23:16
fit4lfeadept doesn't work23:17
[ka]killerhave you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?23:17
fit4lfeyep23:17
doopis there anything bad about running amarok in gnome?23:17
fit4lfesays nothing to upgrade23:17
doopor other kde programs23:17
fit4lfedoop no23:17
_michaelHello, is there a way to launch a new kdm window on a different X display from the command line?23:17
fit4lfeshould I just change all my repos to gusty ?23:18
danielstewartI'm confused, I thought I just installed ndiswrapper23:18
doop_michael, like startx?23:18
danielstewartbut when I try to run it from the console it can't find it :(23:18
fit4lfealso anyone know how to change python versions23:18
Hoondiehey people, anyone got any idea why KDM won't start unless i reinstall the driver every time i restart??23:18
KubuntuGuy655I'm on dialup, so I don't have much bandwidth. I downloaded kubuntu Gutsy and the MD5 sum is wrong. Is there any program out there that can redownload just the incorrect portions of the file, or am I going to have to redownload the whole thing?23:19
_michaeldoop: yes but I'd like to be able to say be on :0 run it then be in :1 and login normally23:19
doopKubuntuGuy655:  go to a friend's place23:19
danielstewartOh woops, never mind. forgot the other one23:19
LegaBrb.23:19
marc2lyoda23:19
doop_michael:  through a script?23:20
KubuntuGuy655Doop: That's what I did. I just got home from my friend's house. I was hoping I wouldn't have to borow my friend's computer again.23:20
doopKubuntuGuy655:  just bring a blank cd to his place and burn it from there23:20
aguitelanyone use wireless card with chipset Realtek rtl8180L ?23:20
fit4lfeanyone know what version update-manager uses for python23:20
fit4lfeis it 2.4 or 2.523:21
_michaeldoop: Yes preferably but if I know the commands I can make one for it23:21
KubuntuGuy655His CD burner died. I had to put the file on my USB drive and bring it to my house to burn it.23:21
doop_michael:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO/cli.html23:22
KubuntuGuy655But oh well. I guess I'll just have to be patient. I was hoping maybe I could just download a few MB over dialup and save some time.23:22
doop_michael:  that'll probably tell you how to switch to different displays and the startx command will start X23:22
KubuntuGuy655I waited 6 months for Gutsy. Maybe another day or two will be okay.23:22
HoondieKubuntuGuy655: get broadband23:22
doop_michael:  or /etc/init.d/kdm start23:22
USMarineKubuntuGuy655 has the cds to be shipped23:23
KubuntuGuy655Hoondie. I'd like to, but I'm on a tight budget.23:23
_michaeldoop: ok I'll look at them thanks :)23:23
USMarineask*23:23
hydrogenMinataku: Linux Yes 2.6.23.1-local20071021-local2007102123:23
doopno probs23:23
KubuntuGuy655I was planning on buying a DVD from Linuxcd.org. I did that with v7.04. But DVDs of Gutsy don't seem to be available yet. Just teh CDS.23:24
danielstewartKubuntuGuy655: There is a good deal fo DSL I believe23:24
KubuntuGuy655But actually, I was never able to use the repository on the DVD. Did they make it easier to use a CD/DVD repository with Gutsy?23:25
USMarinei have 24Mbit for €3923:25
danielstewartSome kind of At&T Yahoo plan where it's phone tv and internet all in one23:25
KubuntuGuy655Yeah, I likd the price on Yahoo broadband, but it's not available where I live.23:25
nickprestaFor some reason, my IP address keeps getting set to 192.168.1.117. I went into Network Settings and configured eth0, and set it to manual and put in 192.168.1.150 and it remains .150 for a minute and then reverts back to 117. Any ideas?23:26
KubuntuGuy655Same with Verizon or others with good prices.23:26
USMarinenickpresta maybe your dhcp server doesn't allow fixed ips23:26
danielstewartKubuntuGuy655: aww, well I'm glad you've already checked it23:26
KubuntuGuy655Besides getting the latest Kubuntu distro, I don't really need broadband.23:27
nickprestaUSMarine: I've been using the same configuration for the last 2 years. This happened after the Gutsy upgrade23:28
danielstewartAlmost got wifi working on feisty kubuntu23:28
LastMallatt phone/tv/internet is only available to a tiny tiny fraction23:28
danielstewartI guess I can't have wireless network and wired connection simulataneously23:28
USMarineye23:28
LukosAnthroposI can23:28
USMarineweird actually23:28
Mithrandir21does anyone know where the executable file of the "php5-common" is located? I cant seem to find it.23:29
USMarineMithrandir21 you can easily find that with synaptic23:29
Mithrandir21I have tried.23:29
danielstewartOkay well I hope everything works with this wireless setup, I gotta bring the modem back upstairs23:29
Mithrandir21But I still cant find it, it weird.23:29
USMarinesomething under /usr/bin23:29
danielstewartHopefully you all will see me in a few minutes23:29
nickprestaUSMarine: I checked /etc/network/interfaces and everything looks correct - static address, correct device, etc. I don't know what the problem could be23:30
USMarinenickpresta i've no idea, people really have odd stuff going on sometimes23:30
nickprestaokay.23:31
monsterbMithrandir21: php5-common is there - just looked with Adept23:31
* NightBird ponders doing a fresh install....23:31
carwash^This is great. Setting lcdbrightness manually with acpi buttins or in /proc/acpi doesnt work. I have to use the ambient light sensor23:31
* USMarine hopes NightBird has /home in a separate partition23:31
NightBirdUSMarine: not this time, but if I do a fresh install I will23:32
carwash^I'll just haveto start carrying a opaque piece of tape to save battery23:32
USMarineNightBird lmao23:32
hitmanWillylol23:32
USMarinehome always kept aside from the system23:33
hitmanWillybest way to do it23:33
NightBirdI agree23:33
NightBirdwhich is why I plan on doing so next time :P23:33
hitmanWillylol23:33
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USMarinein my server home and / are in LVM23:34
USMarine:P23:34
hitmanWillyhad to learn that little piece of advice the hard way myself23:34
USMarineso they change sizes sometimes23:34
LegaOkay, um, I might have a problem, but I'm not sure. I updated to GG using that little screenshot pictoral thing, and now whenever I open adept and fetch updates, it pops up with the "version upgrade" button, as if I hadn't upgraded at all.  But everything looks upgraded, so I don't know. <<;;23:34
USMarineif i add a HD23:34
hitmanWillyLega: do a uname -r in konsole23:35
USMarineLega i had that issue, i just ignored in23:35
USMarineit*23:35
* NightBird would like to install a new hard drive... since I only have something like... 40gb on my drive anyways...23:35
LegahitmanWilly:23:35
LegaConfiguration file `/etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common'23:35
Lega ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.23:35
Lega ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.23:35
USMarineNightBird i had home spread over 3 HDs23:35
Lega   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:23:35
Lega    Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version23:35
Lega    N or O  : keep your currently-installed version23:35
Lega      D     : show the differences between the versions23:36
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Lega      Z     : background this process to examine the situation23:36
Lega The default action is to keep your current version.23:36
Lega*** linux-restricted-modules-common (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?23:36
LegaIck.23:36
LegaEr, my bad, totally.23:36
LegaDid not mean to paste that at all. >.<23:36
LegahitmanWilly: It comes up 2.6.20-16-generic23:36
hitmanWillyLega: ok, that's feisty23:36
LegaEverything LOOKS upgraded, though. <_<?23:36
LastMalldhcp server shouldn't be able to override manually set ip23:36
hitmanWillyLega: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list23:36
hitmanWilly!paste | Lega23:37
ubotuLega: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:37
LegaOh, yeah, I know of pastebin. :D23:37
hitmanWillyjust making sure23:37
monsterbLega: the current kernel 2.6.22-14 -- did u reboot after upgrade?23:37
Legamonsterb- Yeah.23:38
* hitmanWilly likes wgetpaste23:38
declanJust wondering, has anyone figured a successful way to launch compiz on kde? I have all the bits installed and working under Gnome, but I'm tending towards KDE these days. Unfortunately, typing "compiz" or "compiz --replace" doesn't leave me with the desired result, and the thing tends to sieze up on me. Any ideas?23:39
boHow do I install firefox on kubuntu 7.10? I've tried apt-get install, aptitude install, and downloading the tar.gz file both failed with all of the above23:39
monsterbLega: grub configured to boot new kernel?23:39
USMarinebo sudo aptitude install firefox23:39
declanbo: apt-get install firefox should work too. It did for me23:39
Legamonsterb- Em, no. I'm not entirely sure how to do that.23:39
LegaAck, and pastebin isn't loading for me.23:39
declanAh, yes, maybe you forgot sudo?23:39
hitmanWillyLega: ok, pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst as well23:40
USMarinedeclan explain the problem better23:40
miles_hello?23:40
Chousukebo: install iceweasel23:40
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boUSMarine: seemes like it's working though, but I can't launch it. On ubuntu it's jus typing firefox, but now the command is not found.23:40
Chousukebo: it's firefox, but with a different name.23:40
monsterbLega: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst23:40
USMarine!hello | shakey23:40
ubotushakey: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:40
shakeyomg hi!23:40
Chousukebo: legal stuff :(23:41
hitmanWillyChousuke: not entirely...23:41
boChousuke: What is the difference between them?23:41
LegahitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41594/ <-- There is my sources...23:41
Chousukebo: practically none23:41
TechrevHello, I'm having issues..  Sigh..23:41
Chousukebo: nothing you should have to care about anyway :/23:41
USMarinebo try killing any instances23:41
USMarineand starting again23:41
LegahitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41595/ <-- And there is the menu.lst23:41
hitmanWillyLega: ok, do this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade23:42
TechrevI just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now my window managers only show up on 1 monitor..  My xorg.conf hasn't changed..23:42
monsterbLega: paste results from cat /boot/grub/menu.lst on past.ubuntu23:42
boChousuke, USMarine: I have, and I successfully installed iceweasel too, but when I try to run the program, the command is not found.23:42
hitmanWillymonsterb: check his last pastebin23:42
USMarineiceweasel >.<23:43
Chousukebo: you shouldn't run it from the terminal though :/23:43
Chousukebo: anyway, hm23:43
Chousukedpkg -S packagename will show you the files installed by a package I think23:43
kudaranyone know why ndiswrapper wouldn't run?23:43
Chousukeor might've been dpkg -L23:43
LegahitmanWilly: It didn't do anything. <<;;23:43
hitmanWillymonsterb: and his menu.lst is configured for the .22 kernel23:43
Lega0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. <_<23:44
hitmanWillyLega: ok, try another reboot, see what happens23:44
LegaLet me try restarting again.23:44
LegaYeah, brb.23:44
monsterbhitmanWilly: he just needs to reboot into new kernel ;)23:44
boChousuke: It's on my fathers laptop, since he doesn't speak english, it's installed in swedish. Could that have anything to do with it?23:44
Chousukebo: no23:45
hitmanWillymonsterb: yeah, i just wanted to make sure his system wasn't stuck somewhere mid-upgrade23:45
Chousukebo: the binary name should be the same23:45
monsterbhitmanWilly: roger that23:45
declan_OK, now I'm declan_ ... I suppose my question can be easily put. How do people here turn on compiz on kde. I'll try it, and see.23:46
boI do get a lot of files from this location /usr/share/app-install that's related to firefox23:46
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TechrevAm I in the right channel?23:46
lovrei have BIG problems here. for star: i cant download anything with Add/remove programs. Everything is gray (like NOT enabled). Why is this?23:47
hitmanWillybo: try running firefox-bin from a konsole, see what happens23:47
monsterblovre: you need to be sudo23:47
hitmanWillylovre: are you running it as root?23:48
TechrevWhat channel should I go in for normal ubuntu support?23:48
bohitmanWilly: bash: firefox-bin: command not found23:48
hitmanWillyTechrev: #ubuntu23:48
Techrevduh, kk..  LOL23:48
shakeyhey guys im logged in as root right now, is that bad?23:48
LjLusually yes23:48
monsterbdeclan__: do have everything installed?23:48
hitmanWillybo: try sudo apt-get install firefox and pastebin the output please23:48
bohitmanWilly: will do23:48
LjLshakey: is there any reason you think you need to be logged in as root?23:49
lovreno, i am not running as root. But when i was on 7.04 i didnt have to. Now i am on 7.10. How do i run as root anyway?23:49
hitmanWillylovre: kdesu23:49
shakeyno, im just playing23:49
LjLshakey: with fire.23:49
* shakey co-signs23:49
lovrehitmanWilly: what is 'kdesu'23:49
stdin!kdesu | lovre23:49
ubotulovre: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo23:49
monsterblovre: it should ask for password when u launch adept or synaptic...23:49
hitmanWillywow, they changed it...23:50
bohitmanWilly: Since I think that you do not speak swedish, the output is: the package firefox has no installation candidate23:50
juan_hello all! my kdm theme manager won't let me install new themes, any idea on how to do it manually?23:50
hitmanWillybo: hmmm (and no, I don't speak sweedish :) )23:50
stdinbo: check the repositories, make sure they aren't disabled23:51
hitmanWillybo: try mozilla-firefox, see what happens with that23:51
lovremonsterb, it doesnt, i just go to manu and select add/remove, it starts, but i cant install anything new, just deinstall stuff.  Is there a possibility it doesnt know where to look?23:51
LegaAh, the reboot seemed to have worked.23:51
bohitmanWilly: what is the general difference between aptitude and apt-get? and there's no difference when I run mozilla-firefox btw23:52
monsterbcool Lega23:52
hitmanWillyLega: it just wasn't booted into the new kernel23:52
LegaNeat. Thanks guys. :D23:52
lovrewhy was i able to run add/remove normally on  7.04, and i cant now on 7.10?23:52
kudaranyone know why wireless would be slow iin gutsy with intel 4965 wifi card?23:52
LegaAgh, that version upgrade button still pops up, though.23:53
juan_anyone know how to install kdm themes manually?23:53
stdinLega: known issue23:53
monsterblovre: hmm it should ask for password23:53
LegaOh, cool- thanks stdin. ^^23:53
hitmanWillykudar: they updated the drivers, make sure you're booting into the -generic kernel, not -38623:53
stdinjuan_: saying it doesn't let you install a theme doesn't say much. what happens when you try23:53
kudarhitman: at boot it says im booting into generic... how can i check in command terminal?23:54
lovrehow do i run Add/Remove from console?23:54
lovremonsterb: how do i run add/remove from console?23:54
stdinlovre: kdesu adept_installer23:54
juan_stdin it reads it, but doesn't show them in the list23:54
hitmanWillylovre: try this: kdesu adept-installer23:54
hitmanWillyiirc that's the cmd23:54
monsterblovre: adept_installer23:55
* hitmanWilly mainly uses apt, so i'm a little bit rusty with adept23:55
stdinjuan_: sounds more like a bad theme package, a theme package is just a archive with files it in23:55
lovreit runs, but same thing, all gray23:55
lovreeven when i kdesu23:55
boI'm dowloading the tar.gz file from getfirefox.com instead. Let's see what happens23:55
sunilonlnmy brightness adjustment keys stopped working after an upgrade to gutsy... any ideas?23:55
lovre:(23:55
kudarhitman: how can i be sure im booting into generic?23:56
juan_i have downloaded a few from kde look org, but none ofg them work23:56
monsterblovre: how fresh is this install?23:56
lovre10 minutes23:56
monsterbHave u rebooted since u installed?23:56
hitmanWillykudar: run uname -r in a konsole23:56
lovremonsterb: yes23:56
krisbuntuafter upgrading to 7.10, I can't get adept to connect to sources anymore23:57
kudarhitman:23:57
kudarkudar@ubuntubox:~$ uname -r23:57
kudar2.6.22-14-generic23:57
kudarkudar@ubuntubox:~$23:57
hitmanWillykudar: it should have a -generic tag tacked onto the end of the kernel version23:57
hitmanWillyyeah, that's the generic kernel23:57
kudarok.. well my wifi is still pulling down only 200kb/sec23:58
hitmanWillykudar: hold on a sec, lemme check my lappy for something23:58
monsterblovre: not sure ... im doing it here and it's asking for password ... hmmm23:58
* monsterb thinking....23:59
=== juaroj is now known as danroj
shakeywhat AV software is better in your opinion, ClamAV or AVG?23:59

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