[00:00] <WaltzingAlong> sdlnxgk: wonderful so long as no problem has yet been encountered it must be great
[00:00] <werty> can i play games on zone.com through wine?
[00:00] <Linux_Galore> for the CD covers
[00:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> poty: ew envy :[
[00:00] <WaltzingAlong> sdlnxgk: but seriously, take a look at what it is doing and how it does that
[00:00] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, most people don't go to the CLI to install and have problems
[00:00] <Dr_willis_> One good thing about Gutsy. it makes Automatix and envy. less and less needed.. (not that they were needed befor) :)
[00:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> poty: broke my friends box pretty bad
[00:00] <nosrednaekim> Linux_Galore: I think its in kubuntu-default-settings
[00:01] <Dr_willis_> I will stick with the 'restricted-manager' tool for my simple needs
[00:01] <Tm_T> envy is Bad, end of discussion
[00:01] <sdlnxgk> now I tried to install nVidia drivers myself  and it broke my system and had to use envy -t  from the CLI to fix it
[00:01] <sdlnxgk> Tm_T,  I guess to each his own till bitten
[00:01] <WaltzingAlong> Tm_T: sure bad but why
[00:01] <Dr_willis_> of course if nvidia and ati would both get their acts together..  life would be better...
[00:01] <Linux_Galore> nosrednaekim: what I find amusing is the CD cover artwork is not on any of the wiki/kubuntu related websites
[00:02] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, I play games on mine so had to fix the driver issue
[00:02] <nosrednaekim> Linux_Galore: ah..... i'm not sure where that is
[00:02] <Dr_willis_> Tm_T,  your system can get updated one day.. then fail to boot to X after the update..
[00:02] <johey> How do I set a WEP key for my wireless network interface? In System Settings->Network Settings, when setting a hexadecimal WEP key, the settings are forgotten after applying.
[00:02] <Dr_willis_> IRC is the Ultimate Game.
[00:02] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis,  ya but that is in a perfect world
[00:02] <Tm_T> WaltzingAlong: scripts that does break are bad in official channels
[00:02] <Linux_Galore> nosrednaekim: Im running of a batch of CD's and I want to put some artwork on the covers
[00:02] <sdlnxgk> trying to find monitor settings with the new KDE
[00:03] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: perhaps you come across http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_toc.html#TOC21 thanks to google
[00:03] <edenbeast> johey those settings are stored in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:03] <WaltzingAlong> Tm_T: ok so there you have it sdlnxgk; envy is bad because it can break things and this is an official kubuntu support channel; nothing about it may or may not work for some people; just that it can break and does so in undesirable ways
[00:03] <intelikey> hmmm if i bring up eth0 then i loose the ability to access www (ppp0)  but ifconfig eth0 down restores the connection on ppp0     any thoughts ?
[00:03] <Dr_willis_> Kubuntu set up both my wide screen monitors good. :) well after i installed the nvidia drivers.
[00:03] <bascule> johey: I also think that the wallet can hold them for you
[00:03] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: with compiz, if i run compiz --replace it runs compiz for one session or forever?
[00:04] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  just that time..
[00:04] <WaltzingAlong> Oakbox: current session
[00:04] <johey> edenbeast: Cool. I have looked in that file, and there is no WEP key configuration as far as I can see. Where can I find an example of how to set it in that file manually?
[00:04] <Oakbox> ta
[00:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> anybody trying to make linux from scratch?
[00:04] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  and if you Kill that terminal. it may kill compiz. :)  use the exit command to close the shell.
[00:04] <edenbeast> johey 1 sec I'll give you one
[00:04] <sdlnxgk> WaltzingAlong,  I believe ya when you say it can break things but for all three of my systems it has run flawless
[00:04] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i tried Linux From Scratch Once.. dident see much point in it. :)
[00:04] <smax> hi
[00:04] <Dr_willis_> You do learn a lot i guess. :)
[00:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: to learn?
[00:04] <Tm_T> sdlnxgk: doesnt mztter here
[00:04] <smax> how do i know if nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new is prefered ?
[00:05] <johey> bascule: Hm. The wallet is per user, right? I want the NIC to be enabled at boot time, before logging in.
[00:05] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  but it dident teach me anything i dident allready know - other then to 'cut/paste wait' continue...
[00:05] <werty> how can i open iptraf
[00:05] <WaltzingAlong> smax: preferred is the one that works with your card; check the website for the list
[00:05] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia | smax
[00:05] <ubotu> smax: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:05] <bascule> johey: ah, then you need to set it in some file
[00:05] <sdlnxgk> anyone know where monitor settings are in the new KDE??
[00:05] <smax> i have used nvidia-glx in the past.  i'll just stick with that.
[00:05] <bascule> sdlnxgk: peripherals
[00:05] <sdlnxgk> or how to install sysinfo for Konqueror??
[00:05] <intelikey> is it my routing table that's hosed ?
[00:06] <sdlnxgk> bascule, it's not listed in peripherals
[00:06] <johey> sdlnxgk: I have seen some monitor settings in System Settings->Monitor and Display.
[00:06] <edenbeast> johey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41448/  this is for a static configuration dhcp would be easier (you get to omit a lot of stuff ;-) )
[00:06] <stdin> sdlnxgk: put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts
[00:06] <smax> how can i boot linux with out it invoking kde?
[00:06] <Dr_willis_> to configure the monitors on the nvida cards - i thouhg one used the 'nvidia-xconfig' tool
[00:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: did you try to make a live cd?
[00:06] <intelikey> testing
[00:06] <sdlnxgk> Johey in the old version yes I have seen that but not the new version of KDE
[00:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: that seems difficult
[00:06] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  nope. I tend touse SLAX to tweak my own live cd's
[00:06] <andreas> just out os curiosity: Why does Gutsy use /dev/sd{a,b,..} instead of /dev/hd{a,b,..}? Any bigger changes in the handling of IDE-HDDs?
[00:07] <bascule> sdlnxgk: neither it is, control centre, you'll see it
[00:07] <intelikey> ah looks like i'm still recieving this time.
[00:07] <werty> how can i open iptraf?
[00:07] <sdlnxgk> bascule, don't see control center in new version of KDE
[00:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: how do i install ati tool
[00:07] <edenbeast> andres are they sata disks maybe?
[00:07] <sdlnxgk> maybe i'm missing something
[00:07] <intelikey> werty konsole type iptraf ?
[00:07] <bascule> sdlnxgk: system settings, Soth
[00:07] <bascule> sorry
[00:07] <smax> i need to run nvidia-xconfig for glx to work with my card.  if i boot with my card installed i have a black screen upon loading kde.  a paradox.
[00:07] <WaltzingAlong> andreas: not used only for sata disks but using that interface
[00:07] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  no idea - look in the repos for it. I dont have any ati systems any more. Theres the !ati factoid also.
[00:08] <tysonsw> I need a big help and quick.. my computer says that the command "deb" doesn't exist.. what do I do?
[00:08] <Dr_willis_> !find ati
[00:08] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-gutenprint, foomatic-db-hpijs (and 147 others)
[00:08] <sdlnxgk> bascule, don't see system settings
[00:08] <BrightEyes`> how can i remove the boot loader from MBR ?
[00:08] <johey> Thanks alot, edenbeast! I will try to adapt those settings for me.
[00:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !ati
[00:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:08] <intelikey> tysonsw the command 'deb' does not exist.
[00:08] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  you instgall a different boot loader over it normally.
[00:08] <bascule> sdlnxgk: off the menu, I have it
[00:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !fglrx
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> smax: if no kde shows, ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty1 then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure x
[00:08] <Linux_Galore> bet they released Gutsy and havent done the artwork yet
[00:08] <IkeKrull> andreas: kernel devs decided to change all ide hard disks to use the sata driver layer around kernel 2.6.20
[00:08] <johey> edenbeast: Are those really generated by the Network Settings in Kubuntu?
[00:08] <sdlnxgk> bascule, I have system settings but nothing with monitor
[00:08] <prak> how do i unlock a locked dpkg session?
[00:08] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  depending on exactly what you are trying to do. You might want to use the dd command to zero it out. That might whipe the whole hd also.
[00:09] <intelikey> tysonsw what are you trying to do?
[00:09] <tysonsw> intelikey on this page they state that I should wright that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[00:09] <prak> !lock
[00:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:09] <BrightEyes`> Dr_willis_: how can grub automatically find my o/s like on kubuntu installation?
[00:09] <prak> !unlook
[00:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unlook - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:09] <prak> !unlock
[00:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:09] <sdlnxgk> bascule, the new KDE 3.5 is set up a little different
[00:09] <prak> !dpkg
[00:09] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[00:09] <prak> !info dpkg
[00:09] <ubotu> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.14.5ubuntu16 (gutsy), package size 2123 kB, installed size 6712 kB
[00:09] <werty> i'va allready tried that:i think the app runs but there nothing on the monitor...
[00:09] <bascule> sdlnxgk: I have it in system administration odd, anyway, alt+f2 kcontrol then go to peripherals
[00:09] <ardchoille> !adeptfix
[00:09] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:09] <stdin> tysonsw: you add it as a repository, not in konsole
[00:09] <intelikey> tysonsw show me what you typed in, or pasted in.
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  Im not sure what command/how to make  grub rescan the system like the installer does.
[00:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> prak: next time privet message him
[00:10] <Dr_willis_> BrightEyes`,  i normally just manually add the entrys i need to the menu.lst file
[00:10] <andreas> WaltzingAlong: strange, i have no sata, just plain old ide, but all my drives are referenced through sda, sdb (KDE, partitioning utility and default-maountpoints) /etc/ffstab still comments them as /dev/hda etc..
[00:10] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: in grub interface you can do something like setup or something. try help when you get there
[00:10] <prak> AT0M1CBOMBER: why private message?
[00:10] <tysonsw> intelikey deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main
[00:10] <prak> the bot?
[00:10] <WaltzingAlong> andreas: i can find the link explaining it
[00:10] <sdlnxgk> bascule, thanks will try that i'm going crazy here with this new KDE version thought maybe I didn't install something
[00:10] <Dr_willis_> Grub does not 'scan' the system and make the menu.lst thats some tool of the installer.
[00:10] <edenbeast> BrightEyes`: the MBR is the first 512 part of your hd so dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<your device> bs=512 count=1  should do the trick
[00:11] <sdlnxgk> bascule, I just have login manager there
[00:11] <Dr_willis_> and leave him with a unbootable system. :)
[00:11] <stdin> !msgthebot | prak
[00:11] <ubotu> prak: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[00:11] <bascule> sdlnxgk: well perhaps, I have always had sytem settongs at the bottom of the kmenu
[00:11] <edenbeast> BrightEyes`: but please make sure you have a bootdisk and back up your MBR first!
[00:11] <werty> i'va allready tried that:i think the app is running but there nothing on the monitor...(iptraf)
[00:11] <tomer_p> hi all
[00:11] <BrightEyes`> edenbeast: ok im not going to do anything
[00:11] <edenbeast> Dr_willis well he asked how to nuke the MBR :-|
[00:11] <tomer_p> how do i get the source code for my /usr/bin/tail
[00:11] <tomer_p> program, using adept
[00:11] <verve> k, so i'm upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy.. i think it finished, it's at the cleanup stage, asks me if i want to remove obsolete packages.. i say Remove, it works for about a minute then crashes
[00:11] <Dr_willis_> edenbeast,  yep..  asked how to make a noose to hang hiself. :)
[00:12] <andreas> IkeKrull: ah, ok that explains it. needs a bit of getting used to
[00:12] <verve> what should i do?
[00:12] <verve> re-run Adept?
[00:12] <WaltzingAlong> andreas: but i think it is just because the old access was slow and such but the sata access was faster and a better future platform       perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-422336.html
[00:12] <Linux_Galore> heh, Always use the Italian Ubuntu Gutsy artwork heh -> http://loeil.tonsite.biz/wp-content/2007/07/sexy-ubuntu.jp
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> !find tail
[00:12] <ubotu> Found: logtail, whiptail, inotail, libfile-tail-perl, multitail (and 5 others)
[00:12] <sdlnxgk> bascule,  I only have digital camera, joystick, keyboard, mouse, printers, remote  controls, storage media inside Peripherals :(
[00:12] <Linux_Galore> heh, Always use the Italian Ubuntu Gutsy artwork heh -> http://loeil.tonsite.biz/wp-content/2007/07/sexy-ubuntu.jpg
[00:12] <Linux_Galore> oops
[00:12] <intelikey> tysonsw as stdin said,  you put that in the wrong place is all.   but you can use the konsole and,     echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list     if you like.
[00:12] <bascule> sdlnxgk: very strange ....
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> tomer_p,  that would be part of some larger package i belive. Not sure which one tail comes in.
[00:12] <werty> !find iptraf
[00:12] <verve> anyone!?
[00:12] <ubotu> Found: iptraf
[00:13] <andreas> WaltzingAlong: Thank you, that explains it. good to know. Is there a symlink to /dev/hda or are those indentifiers not usable any more?
[00:13] <werty> ops
[00:13] <sdlnxgk> bascule, very stranger indeed maybe when I upgraded KDE I forgot something will go back and look at package list
[00:13] <gameforge> So I am trying to run compiz in Kubuntu Gutsy but it has no window borders, and no hint of a window manager - I have gnome-desktop installed for fun, and it works great under gnome - using fglrx/ATI driver... what should I do?  Emerald and compiz are both running and not displaying errors...
[00:13] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: why does my adept manager say full upgrade
[00:13] <tomer_p> ok but generally speaking, how can i get the source code for some package that i install using adept
[00:13] <bascule> tomer_p: well it belongs to package core-utils, so get the source for that
[00:13] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: and version upgrade
[00:13] <WaltzingAlong> andreas: accessed via sda instead afaik
[00:13] <bascule> sdlnxgk: kde admin or kde-admin
[00:13] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: im on gutsy
[00:13] <prak> is it possible to upgrade to gutsy by booting the alternative cd?
[00:13] <tomer_p> bascule: ok how do i get the source for core-utils?
[00:13] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  theres a bug in the package manager tool where it says you can upgrade even after you are Up to date.
[00:13] <gameforge> Yes that's another issue I'm having since upgrading to Gutsy, my adept still has a "Version Upgrade" button
[00:14] <Dr_willis_> gameforge,  ignore the button
[00:14] <gameforge> k :)
[00:14] <WaltzingAlong> gameforge: known issue
[00:14] <sdlnxgk> bascule, will give that a shot thanks for your help!!
[00:14] <stdin> !source | tomer_p
[00:14] <awag> can anyone here help me with configuring strigi?
[00:14] <ubotu> tomer_p: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[00:14] <Dr_willis_> got to be faq #3 :)
[00:14] <WaltzingAlong> prak: start feisty. insert the cd. then upgrade from the cd
[00:14] <Linux_Galore> anyone got a link for the Kubuntu Gutsy artwork, dare say this image http://loeil.tonsite.biz/wp-content/2007/07/sexy-ubuntu.jpg qont be the best to use heh
[00:14] <Linux_Galore> wont*
[00:14] <gameforge> So what about my other issue, compiz running with no window borders/trace of a window manager?
[00:14] <andreas> WaltzingAlong: hm ok, hope I remember this when I need it the first time. Thank you
[00:15] <WaltzingAlong> andreas: :D
[00:15] <gameforge> And I can't seem to rotate cube or anything
[00:15] <gameforge> ?
[00:15] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[00:15] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[00:15] <Dr_willis_> gameforge,  install emerald like that guide says
[00:15] <gameforge> Like I said before, emerald is running
[00:15] <prak> WaltzingAlong: i'm doing just that as instructed in http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading, except i'm hitting some bugs
[00:15] <Dr_willis_> Then ya did somthing else wrong.
[00:15] <prak> i mean error messages
[00:16] <WaltzingAlong> prak: such as?
[00:16] <Linux_Galore> gameforge: emerald isnt compiz its a manager
[00:16] <Dr_willis_> :) i would say restart the X serrver perhaps. and try reruning compiz --replace
[00:16] <verve> am i muted or something? or is it just no one is answering me at all?
[00:16] <gameforge> Well, I started with beryl, then ditched that since compiz-fusion came out, but I've never been able to get it to work - I was hoping gutsy would fix it
[00:16] <Dr_willis_> well if you had beryl on there befor.. I got no idea what may be confiused.
[00:16] <tysonsw> intelikey it wont work.. it is just stuck at " sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list"
[00:16] <gameforge> I know - I run compiz, it tells me it's starting emerald, and my window borders disappear
[00:16] <werty> if ihave ubuntu can i change to kubuntu and hpw?
[00:16] <Dr_willis_> I did a clean install of gutsy.
[00:16] <werty> how
[00:16] <WaltzingAlong> gameforge: but kde4 should have beryl-like effects
[00:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: me too
[00:16] <stdin> !kde
[00:16] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[00:17] <Linux_Galore> I wont be using compiz until about kde 4.1
[00:17] <WaltzingAlong> werty: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop           or through synaptic install kubuntu-desktop          then when you log in, select kde as the session instead of gnome
[00:17] <Dr_willis_> werty,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:17] <intelikey> tysonsw ctrl+C
[00:17] <gameforge> I thought that, although at this point I'm working in a brand new account, and beryl is definitely uninstalled and removed
[00:17] <prak> WaltzingAlong: "unable to get exclusive lock" message
[00:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i really hate that bug tho :[ grrrr/rawr/moo/meow
[00:17] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea why NetworkManager is using 100% of CPU resources on Gutsy?
[00:17] <kaminix> I won't be using Compiz until I get a computer with a better chipset :p
[00:17] <tysonsw> intelikey sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:17] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | prak
[00:17] <ubotu> prak: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:17] <gameforge> Like I said before, it works great under gnome, I have gnome-desktop installed for fun
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> gameforge: sure it is meant for gnome as far as i know
[00:18] <UnluckyMike> I'm having problems with the default rt61pci drivers that shipped with gutsy, I'm running the serialmonkey drivers now. They work fine as long as I use the rutilt config program that they made for the driver, but when I try to manually config with iwpriv the driver dies. dmesg isn't showing anything wrong. Any ideas?
[00:18] <bascule> tomer_p: apt-get source core-utils
[00:18] <Dr_willis_> theres a very good reason that compiz is NOT isntalled on Kubuntu by default. :)
[00:18] <gameforge> WaltzingAlong: So it's an emerald issue, I believe... what can I do?
[00:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: what does the fglrx tool do
[00:18] <werty> but then will i be able to change between kde and gnome?
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> gameforge: stumble through?
[00:18] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  thts the name of the ati driver..  configures the ati stuff i would guess
[00:18] <gameforge> Dr_willis_: Yeah, I figured that much - but it's upsetting that emerald _used_ to work way back when with beryl
[00:18] <Dr_willis_> werty,  of course.
[00:18] <VDrake> jolas
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> gameforge: (i have no compbiz on here anyway, sorry, need to ask someone else)
[00:19] <werty> how? ;)
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> gameforge,  it works for me now. :)
[00:19] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: but it does nothing im in it right now :[
[00:19] <gameforge> Dr_willis_: are you using fglrx?
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  no idea. i dont have a single ati machine any more. ive not messed with ati in over a year.
[00:19] <tysonsw> intelikey sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> gameforge,  nope. nvidia
[00:19] <gameforge> Dr_willis_: figures :(
[00:19] <Dr_willis_> I dont plan on buying ati any time again  soon.
[00:20] <Oakbox> yay compiz running ok so far BUT i seem to have 4 desktops showing on my pannel and only two that work :S
[00:20] <intelikey> tysonsw i never said that.   sorry for being vague.   i assumed you knew what the pipe symbol did.
[00:20] <UnluckyMike> anyone know anything bout rt61 wireless?
[00:20] <Dr_willis_> next laptop i get WILL be nvidia also.. :)
[00:20] <edenbeast> maybe in a few years when those open sourced drivers will be kicking ass :D
[00:20] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  set the # of desktops using the compiz settings manager tool.  not the kde tool
[00:20] <gameforge> Yep, I'm tired of ATI as well, but I have a laptop with an ATI card.... :(
[00:20] <tysonsw> intelikey no.. sry.. I should have tol you <---- linux newbie
[00:20] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i might get a gforce whats the best one?
[00:20] <Dr_willis_> gameforge,  my ati laptop cant even handle compiz.
[00:21] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  whatever your budget can afford.
[00:21] <intelikey> tysonsw press the control key and the c key togather and close the konsole before we break something
[00:21] <awag> can anyone here help me with configuring strigi? i upgraded to 7.10 the other day, and strigi doesn't seem to be able to find files very well for me
[00:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: what is the best one?
[00:21] <gameforge> Dr_willis_: Well, I have a Radeon Mob. 9600, and it used to do Beryl great - also have a 9800 Pro in my desktop
[00:21] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  BEST IS  whatever your budget can afford.
[00:21] <tysonsw> intelikey done
[00:21] <gameforge> So has anyone got emerald/compiz to work with ATI on KDE?
[00:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: they arent that expensive
[00:21] <intelikey> !repos | tysonsw please read this link.
[00:21] <ubotu> tysonsw please read this link.: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  nvidia cards range from $60 to $600.......
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> i got a $300 8800gtsXXX in this box.
[00:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> my computer costs $4000 built it from scratch :]
[00:23] <intelikey> tysonsw you should probably use that page to setup the sources list.   read carefully, if you have questions, just ask.
[00:23] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  i would say you proberly got ripped off then.
[00:23] <Dr_willis_> but it all depends on your needs.
[00:24] <WaltzingAlong> AT0M1CB0MB3R: and income :D
[00:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> jk
[00:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> it cost 400
[00:24] <Dr_willis_> I got a C64 that cost like $400 - 30+ yrs ago...
[00:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> it was a typo
[00:24] <Dr_willis_> I got a decent $700 system the other day on sale.
[00:24] <Dr_willis_> then added a $300 card.
[00:24] <tysonsw> intelikey the problem I have is how to istall ccsm on this system.. I have already read that page and.. that didn't make me smarter
[00:25] <tomer_p> guys, there ISNT a core-utils package
[00:25] <Dr_willis_> sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:25] <hydrogen> hmm
[00:25] <stdin> tomer_p: "coreutils"
[00:25] <Dr_willis_> to install the ccsm tool.
[00:25] <hydrogen> what kind of adventures would I be in for if I tried to move my root partition from one drive to another?
[00:26] <WaltzingAlong> !partimage | hydrogen should be enjoyable otherwise dd
[00:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partimage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:26] <tomer_p> ok found it thatks
[00:26] <Dr_willis_> hydrogen,  you would need to   boot a live cd , fix the fstab. and grub/menu.lst and perhaps remake the   initrd file
[00:26] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ that doesn't work.. I have already tried.. it can't download the file either
[00:26] <hydrogen> WaltzingAlong: I know how to move it.. I'm more wonder about what would need to be updated to make kubuntu actually work
[00:26] <WaltzingAlong> so perhaps the first step is rewording the task
[00:26] <hydrogen> Dr_willis_: yea, thats mostly what I thought..
[00:27] <hydrogen> WaltzingAlong: no, I asked what adventures would moving it from one drive to another cause, not how to move it from one drive to another
[00:27] <hydrogen> WaltzingAlong: the first step in responding is reading the question :M)
[00:27] <hydrogen> where'd that M come from?
[00:27] <tysonsw> intelikey the problem I have is how to istall ccsm on this system.. I have already read that page and.. that didn't make me smarter
[00:27] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,  it the proper way to do it. Your repos may be messed up/slow, or you need to update/upgrade.
[00:28] <johey> edenbeast: I am not very used to configuring wireless networks. I don't really know what is what. I only know my ESSID and some key (which I thaught was a WEP key) on the form xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx where all x's are hex numbers. Isn't that enough information to set up my network?
[00:28] <hydrogen> Dr_willis_: what if I wanted to install grub on the other drive and use that as the boot loader? is there a pretty way to do that in *buntu or would I just run grub-install ?
[00:28] <Dr_willis_> hydrogen,  sudo grub-install /dev/whatever
[00:28] <edenbeast> johey yes if you set it up as using dhcp, then it'll pull all the other info from your router or your isp
[00:28] <hydrogen> okay
[00:28] <hydrogen> so theres no pretty way :)
[00:28] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ the console states that the package compizconfig-settings-manager doesn't exist
[00:28] <Dr_willis_> hydrogen,  whats moving grub going to acomplish? :)
[00:28]  * hydrogen looks around for a kubuntu cd
[00:29] <WaltzingAlong> johey: at the console you could use sudo iwlist eth1 scanning                to see which key is expected
[00:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> it has a amd64 athlon +3000  2.7ghz 1gb ram |2 harddrives 500gb / 200gb |ati 9550 256mb |6 ,12v fans|Plexiglass case|two dvd / cd burners| 6 red/white/blue leds|and 9 usb 2.0 ports
[00:29] <WaltzingAlong> type of key*
[00:29] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,  then you need to fix your repositories, and/or sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:29] <bascule> hmmm, signal 11 on x ....
[00:29] <Dr_willis_> or theres a typo.. lets check
[00:29] <Dr_willis_> !find compiz
[00:29] <ubotu> Found: compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (and 15 others)
[00:29] <hydrogen> Dr_willis_: I don't want to mess around with grub and multiple hd's and windows overriding and all that mess.. so I'd rather put linux on my external hd and install grub onto that.. so fi I want to boot into linux I just boot off of my external hd, if I want to run windows I boot off the internal
[00:30] <tomer_p> how do i untar a tar.bz2 file?
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> ompizconfig-settings-manager - Compiz configuration settings manager
[00:30] <bascule> hey source guy, it's coreutils not core-utils
[00:30] <hydrogen> tomer_p: tar -xjf file
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> !info compizconfig-settings-manage
[00:30] <ubotu> Package compizconfig-settings-manage does not exist in gutsy
[00:30] <tomer_p> ok thanks
[00:30] <WaltzingAlong> tomer_p: tar xfvj file.tar.bz2
[00:30] <johey> WaltzingAlong: Do you mean the line "Encryption key:on"?
[00:30] <bascule> tomer_p: it's coreutils not core-utils
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> Hmm-- thers a typo going on somewhere..
[00:30] <stdin> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:30] <ubotu> compizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB
[00:30] <bascule> tomer_p: why do you want the source?
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:30] <stdin> Dr_willis_:  needed an r at the end :)
[00:31] <WaltzingAlong> johey: no a bit further than that
[00:31] <tomer_p> i want to mess around with tail and have my own version
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> heh..
[00:31] <tomer_p> a version that beeps on every new line
[00:31] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ thanks for the help with the update.. now it worked
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> tomer_p,  that would be about a 3 line perl script. :)
[00:31] <bascule> tomer_p: cool
[00:31] <tomer_p> tail -fb file
[00:31] <WaltzingAlong> tomer_p: could just set konsole to beep on event
[00:31] <tomer_p> will beep
[00:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WOW I HATE MY ATI CARD!!!!
[00:32] <tomer_p> nahh that would be too easy i want to do it in C
[00:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> my computer is so slow because of it
[00:32] <tomer_p> im a bored programmer and looking for challanges
[00:32] <tomer_p> (non c/c++ coding does not count)
[00:33] <johey> WaltzingAlong: ESSID, Protocol, Mode, Channel, Frequency, Encryption key, Bit Rates, Quality and Extra are all that are there.
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  thers some nice low end nvidia cards :)
[00:33] <WaltzingAlong> tomer_p: squash some bugs: http://launchpad.net
[00:33] <dvayanu> next point... my ssh stoped working...
[00:34] <Agent_bob> tomer_p write a configuration tool with an ncurses and qt interfaces that works like knetwork-manager and firestarter  all in one.
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,   they got a fanless card out now for like $50 ive been looking at for my quite-workstation-media-player pc
[00:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: im fed up with my ati card im just gonig to break it in half and
[00:34] <dvayanu> strace shows it hangs in read(12...
[00:34] <snikker> when i go in "systemsettings" --> display, an error message say that's impossible to load the display module... can you help me?
[00:34] <bascule> tomer_p: I have no idea where apt-get source downloads to ... :)
[00:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: poor water on it
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> bascule,  i  though it went to the current diretory
[00:34] <Agent_bob> tomer_p something that the network illiterate can use to configure their own server
[00:34] <dvayanu> ssh to a comp in local lan works, ssh from another computer to internet works
[00:35] <WaltzingAlong> johey: ok maybe it is not in that list with wep though i thought it was
[00:35] <bascule> Dr_willis_: it does
[00:35] <dvayanu> only from my gutsy to internet doesnt
[00:35] <bascule> Dr_willis_: thanks .. :)
[00:35] <Agent_bob> bascule /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:35] <tomer_p> well i need to work my way up the food chain
[00:35] <cobello5> hi I am trying to set up guarddog on a ppp0 interface, but when it is activated it stops the connection dead
[00:35] <WaltzingAlong> !info guarddog
[00:35] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[00:35] <tomer_p> im very experienced programmer but do not know how to build for debian/ubuntu
[00:35] <dvayanu> oh, i correct myself no outgoing connections work anymore
[00:35] <cobello5> yes i have it already - it was part of my install
[00:35] <Dr_willis_> cobello5,  sounds like its working. :)
[00:36] <cobello5> its not on now
[00:36] <bascule> tomer_p: there are loads of tuts out there, or join #ubuntu-dev
[00:36] <cobello5> its deactivated
[00:36] <Dr_willis_> you just need to enable the holes to allow what you want through.
[00:36] <dvayanu> connect(12, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/ssh-ZYCNm11189/agent.11189.seahorse"}
[00:36] <johey> edenbeast: Okay, I'm using DHCP. In your file, there is a "wireless_key" with a long hex string. Is that related to the WEP?
[00:36] <cobello5> when I apply it the internet no longer works
[00:36] <edenbeast> johey yes
[00:36] <zhlin> hi
[00:36] <dvayanu> all ssh clients hang shortly after passing this instruction
[00:36] <tomer_p> bascule: thanks will do
[00:36] <zhlin> wow, so many people here
[00:36] <cobello5> when Ive used guardog before internet browsing is already 'opened'
[00:37] <bascule> hi zhlin
[00:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: what is better GeForce 7800 GS or GeForce 7600 GT
[00:37] <cobello5> and in the protocols section http is ticked
[00:37] <zhlin> hi bascule
[00:37] <stdin> wtf: please change your nick
[00:37] <johey> edenbeast: I just have this six octets. Can I use that to generate a key in a valid format?
[00:37] <bascule> AT0M1CB0MB3R: google tomsharware VGA charts
[00:37] <bascule> AT0M1CB0MB3R: tomshardware rather sorry
[00:38] <zhlin> where do you guys come from
[00:38] <cobello5> I just bought a really good ati card and the drivers are not really very good
[00:38] <cobello5> shouldve bought nvidia
[00:38] <dvayanu> what is that seahorse btw? every process seems to open it
[00:38] <bascule> zhlin: all sorts of places, I'm UK
[00:38] <Agent_bob> zhlin where are they going may be a better Q
[00:38] <edenbeast> johey you mean like "6b5e45453"
[00:38] <cobello5> anyway - anyone know why guarddog might be stopping my ppp0 ?
[00:38] <zhlin> oh, same yes, cobello5, linux ati driver sucks
[00:38] <cobello5> the correct protocols are 'open'
[00:39] <cobello5> zhlin: i get an intermittent flickering
[00:39] <johey> edenbeast: 00-01-38-a0-ac-9f
[00:39] <cobello5> zhlin: but 3d is working just fine - so cant complain really
[00:39] <zhlin> there's a good tutorial telling you how to do this
[00:40] <cobello5> how to do what?
[00:40] <edenbeast> johey yes that's your key but it's a small one, you use only 64 bit encryption? :-)
[00:40] <zhlin> 3d is fine? then what's your problem?
 zhlin: i get an intermittent flickering
[00:40] <johey> edenbeast: It's providen by my ISP. :)
[00:40] <cobello5> zhlin: not related to video at all
[00:40] <zhlin> ok, show me the link please
[00:40] <cobello5> zhlin: that was just conversation
[00:40] <smax> hi
[00:41] <cobello5> i need help with guarddog, please
[00:41] <edenbeast> johey that's sort of weird, maybe that's your nics' mac address? ;-)
[00:41] <zhlin> no exp about this
[00:41] <cobello5> firestarter hangs when it starts up, so I cant use that
[00:41] <edenbeast> johey but try it, if it doesn't work you'll know
[00:41] <smax> at the kubuntu login screen.  aparently there is an option for konsole log in  via Alt-N.
[00:41] <smax> but it doesent work
[00:41] <werty> how to set up dc++ or where can i find a tutorial?
[00:41] <zhlin> anybody got exp about fvwm?
[00:41] <smax> isn't that false adversizement?
[00:42] <Dr_willis> smax,  you want your money back?
[00:42] <smax> the button to the left of the login prompt.  there is an option of Konsole login.
[00:42] <Agent_bob> (: smax
[00:42] <smax> Dr_willis.  im trying to run nvidia-xconfig but cant get to a console with my new card inserted.
[00:43] <smax> with my new-card inserted i get a black screen when kde is invoked
[00:43] <smax> but i can see the output of dmesg
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> smax: nvidia-config  ?
[00:43] <magoo> is the synoptics working with kubuntu today
[00:43] <Agent_bob> smax have you tried ctrl+alt+f#  # being 1-6
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> magoo: kubuntu has a package manager but yes you could use synaptics
[00:43] <cee> how can i start X programs as another user? in the "old days" i just did export DISPLAY=localhost:1 but that dosent work anymore..
[00:43] <smax> it's ctrl-alt-F2 and that only works when the desktop is loaded
[00:43] <zhlin> i suppose there's no girls here, right
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> hard to tell
[00:44] <smax> Agent_bob: how can i get to the desktop from a black screen in the first place?
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> yup... there is
[00:44] <smax> obviously Alt-N doesent work.
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> cee,  check out the 'sux' command - its handy for that exact job.
[00:44] <johey> edenbeast: When running ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1 it should use my new settings, right?
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> not me ;)
[00:44] <tysonsw> were can I find the buttons to activate compiz?
[00:44] <smax> what else is there to do ?
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> !info sux
[00:44] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis_: that sux.... er rocks!!
[00:44] <stdin> cee: as your user "xhost +LOCAL:" and as the other user "DISPLAY=:0 xapplication" (if :0 is your display)
[00:44] <Agent_bob> smax which are you trying to get to   a console login   or the kde session ?
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,  button? Normally you run 'compiz --replace'
[00:44] <Agent_bob> make up your mind.
[00:44] <smax> Agent_bob: to a konsole session.
[00:45] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ yes I know.. but how do you  zoom out?
[00:45] <edenbeast> johey eth1 is the name given to an internal network card I don't think that'll be your wireless card, check out its name with iwconfig
[00:45] <smax> how do i boot into a console session with out kde invoking ?
[00:45] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis_: unless the icon was installed?
[00:45] <werty> !info dc++
[00:45] <ubotu> Package dc++ does not exist in gutsy
[00:45] <johey> edenbeast: eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"B2_private_9F"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311"
[00:45] <Agent_bob> smax add single to the kernel line in grub
[00:45] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,   i always have to use the ccsm tool to check what keybindings do what...
[00:45] <cobello5> anyone with experience using guarddog and a dial up interface?
[00:45] <edenbeast> johey great then eth1 is your card :-)
[00:45] <Dr_willis_> WaltzingAlong,  ive seen no icon. :)  you could make one easially enough
[00:45] <zhlin> try crtl+alt+f1 in your kdm, Agent_bob
[00:46] <smax> great now i have to learn grub.
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> smax,  alt-ctrl-f1, disable the kdm service
[00:46] <smax> Agent_bob: can you just tell me the path this file resides?
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> smax,  depending on what you are needing to do. :)
[00:46] <smax> f1 ehh?
[00:46] <smax> Dr_willis_: can this work from the login screen?
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> smax,  alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 gets to the consoles.
[00:46] <Agent_bob> zhlin i don't use kdm   and i am running dapper.   and yes alt+ctrl+f# works in kdm in dapper.
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> smax,  try it and see.
[00:46] <smax> ok i'll just go down the list. F1..F6
[00:47] <Dr_willis_> smax,  it works on  most every disrto/livecd/installers even. :)
[00:47] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ what is a super button?
[00:47] <smax> well usually it's F2.
[00:47] <smax> which didnt work.
[00:47] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,  thats the Windows Key :)
[00:47] <smax> i'll try the other 5
[00:47] <smax> thanx
[00:47] <cobello5> how about suggesting other iptables-centric channels? (except #iptables of course)
[00:47] <Dr_willis_> smax,  usually? should be one on f1 through F6, F7 gets you back to X.
[00:47] <octo_> anyone here know if  mdraid supports independent reads to different disks in the array, so i can have my sata raid 1 be faster than my crappy IDE drive?
[00:48] <magoo> oh yes that package manager is what i was talking about it had some problems on my machine today
[00:48] <BrightEyes`> are there any tools for configuring the grub boot loader?
[00:48] <cobello5> BrightEyes`: grub is easy to configure
[00:48] <Dr_willis_> Doh! i had my windows key disabled.. :) heh - thats why it wasent working
[00:49] <WaltzingAlong> BrightEyes`: check the online manual
[00:49] <Agent_bob> cobello5 nano ?
[00:49] <cobello5> just look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:49] <edenbeast> BrightEyes`: grub
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> grub is one of those things thats WELL worth learning  about.
[00:49] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> well looks like im getting a new nvidia card :]
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> the grub homepage has very good docs/guide/manual
[00:49] <whyso> hi! i just installed gutsy, but aptitude (and apt get) dont list any packages (even firefox :( )
[00:49] <edenbeast> BrightEyes`: the load process is defined in menu.lst like cobello5 said
[00:49] <Agent_bob> dr_willis worth learning, or not worth using.  i'd say
[00:50] <Agent_bob> pick your take.
[00:50] <edenbeast> I find the hdx,x notation very annoying :-/
[00:50] <cobello5> BrightEyes`: are you having trouble working out how to configure menu.lst
[00:50] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,  The windows key + mouse wheel zoome in/out for me.
[00:50] <AndyMan1> is it possible (and easy) to encrypt /home on a separate partition when installing kubuntu gutsy?
[00:50] <Dr_willis_> edenbeast,  come up with a better notation then that works in all the os's that grub can use. :)
[00:51] <flick> i just installed kde-core on ubuntu, how do i enable compiz on kubuntu?
[00:51] <cobello5> nyone with experience using guarddog and a dial up interface?
[00:51] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[00:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[00:51] <WaltzingAlong> cobello5: ask google about that
[00:51] <flick> thanks
[00:51] <Dr_willis_> We need to put that in the topic. :)
[00:51] <flick> compiz or not, kde seems much better!
[00:51] <Dr_willis_> save ware on the bot.
[00:51] <Agent_bob> dr_willis  how about the common linux notation
[00:51] <cobello5> WaltzingAlong: been googling for weeks to find the problem
[00:51] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ what menu in ccsm do I go to to find the command  so I can go from fram to cube?
[00:52] <Dr_willis_> Agent_bob,  grub is NOT just for linux.. thats the point.
[00:52] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ frame*
[00:52] <cobello5> WaltzingAlong: im a bit of a linux cripple too, i need help
[00:52] <Dr_willis_> Agent_bob,  grub is useavble in   bsd that uses a different notation, its even useable by dos..
[00:52] <Dr_willis_> Agent_bob,  grub devs used that notation to be as concise as they can be.
[00:52] <flick> Dr_willis, thanks, were it not for you i wouldn't have tried KDE :)
[00:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i wish this dock worked for linux http://rocketdock.com/
[00:53] <sub[t]rnl> greets
[00:53] <WaltzingAlong> cobello5: may i ask (and be informed) why you would like to run the firewall anyway? http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> hey sub[t]rnl
[00:53] <sub[t]rnl> yo
[00:53] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,  Hmm..  I never use the cube.  it should be right there on the settings. check cube. enabel 4 desktops on the  general tab also.
[00:53]  * Agent_bob wonders how grub is usable in *os*   or by *os* for that matter....
[00:53] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ what menu in ccsm do I go to to find the command  so I can go from frame to cube?
[00:53] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,  explore cssm - is the best thing to do.
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: you have to enable the desktop cube
[00:54] <Agent_bob> methinks he meant cant be used to boot *os*
[00:54] <Dr_willis_> the big icon that says 'cube' makes sence to me. :)
[00:54] <sub[t]rnl> call me crazy
[00:54] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[00:54] <flick> is ktorrent the choice for torrent client on kde? i've been using deluge on gnome.
[00:54] <NickPresta> nalioth: you there?
[00:54] <NickPresta> flick: yep. KTorrent is awesome.
[00:55] <[ifr0g]> flick, yes it is.
[00:55] <cobello5> WaltzingAlong: arent you best off with a firewall? I use netbanking and other sensitive stuff
[00:55] <cobello5> WaltzingAlong: (sorry for the delay - children to look after)
[00:55] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim hey again.. it is enabled.. it says that I have to press ctrl-alt-down.. but it won't work
[00:55] <edenbeast> Dr_willis yet it does distinguish between slices and partitions
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: ctrl+alt +right and left arrows
[00:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i wish this dock worked for linux http://rocketdock.com/
[00:56] <cobello5> i have used guarddog before on a adsl style connection with no trouble, it makes iptables quite easy to configure
[00:56] <WaltzingAlong> cobello5: sure it can be a nice layer of protection. just that kubuntu ships with 0 open ports by default. ok so i would suggest pacing yourself through the guide; at one of the screens things seemed a bit backward to me so i was always configured the firewall in the wrong direction
[00:56] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim to activate??
[00:56] <cobello5> i think the problem stems from the kind of internet I have
[00:56] <flick> bye bye, deluge!
[00:56] <edenbeast> Dr_willis the main annoyance with the numbering scheme is having to be very sure which gets counted first and with multiple hds (and with pata, sata and scsi mixed that's a royal pain) it's not always easy. :-)
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> tysonsw: just try it
[00:56] <Dr_willis_> ya know. the Desktop CUBE stuff.. really looks like Poo..on 2+ monitors. :)
[00:57] <WaltzingAlong> !info kooldock | AT0M1CB0MB3R not close enough?
[00:57] <nosrednaekim> bye all!
[00:57] <cobello5> ok, i will look at the guide
[00:57] <ubotu> at0m1cb0mb3r not close enough?: kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[00:57] <tysonsw> nosrednaekim it won't work
[00:57] <Dr_willis_> edenbeast,  yep. its a complex task. with no easy answer.. Gotten bitten by the "starts at 0" thing also.
[00:57] <tysonsw> Dr_willis_ it wont work T.T
[00:57] <Agent_bob> tysonsw does your ctrl and alt keys work propperly?    i recently found a system that i had to use the "magic sysRQ" combo to get out of normal xorg.   might be worth testing  ctrl+alt+f1 alt+f7  just to make sure.
[00:57] <Dr_willis_> tysonsw,   how ... vague. :)
[00:57] <Oakbox> is there any reason why i cant select the "raise on click" checkbox in compiz?
[00:57] <cobello5> before I do though - let me explain my internet, it is a wireless modem that connects to broadband internet like a cell phone
[00:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> WaltzingAlong: but it acts up on me
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  check that howto - in the troubleshooting part at the end
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  i added that info just today. :)
[00:58] <cobello5> but the modem is not automatically recognised by kubuntu and the ppp0 interface never appears in network manager
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[00:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[00:58] <tysonsw> Agent_bob yes they work
[00:58] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_
[00:58] <Agent_bob> k
[00:58] <Oakbox> oops
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  Under Kubuntu, some settings in the Compiz Settings Manager may not be selectable unless you enable the "Flat-File Configuration Backend" Under the CCSM tool -> Preferances -> (Backend drop down menu)
[00:58] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: ta
[00:59] <cobello5> although it does show in ifconfic (of course)
[00:59] <johey> edenbeast and WaltzingAlong: When running sudo iwlist keys, I get one line that says "[1]: 0001-38A0-AC9F-0000-0000-0000-00 (104 bits)". I've tried to use that key (with some variations, like wasting the dashes) as wireless-key, but it won't work. How should I configure it?
[00:59] <Max-P> Hi, I have a BIG problem with my video driver
[00:59] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  guess i should put that info under the 'configure' heading? :)
[00:59] <edenbeast> johey that's a strange key :-/
[00:59] <Max-P> Can someone help me?
[01:00] <edenbeast> johey are you able to setup a new key in your router as well?
[01:00] <smax> hi
[01:00] <johey> edenbeast: No, this is hard coded into my modem. It's not even a router.
[01:00] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: ta muchly you have been a great help :) it would probably be better there yep.
[01:00] <smax> ctrl-alt F1 doesent work with the nvidia card inserted.
[01:00] <edenbeast> johey oh I see :-/
[01:00] <smax> can someone just tell me the line of  grub to provide an option for console login?
[01:01] <smax> and the path to the grub config file.
[01:01] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  but is it a bug.. that might get fixed :) or not.. hard to justify heh..
[01:01] <Max-P> Do someone know how to RESET the Video driver? It was working correctly until I tried to plug my TV on my laptop
[01:01] <WaltzingAlong> smax: /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[01:01] <smax> thnx
[01:01] <flick> where is the configuration for config? the site says "And for Kubuntu: KMenu > Settings > CompizConfig Settings Manager" but there is no CompizConfig in Settings (i have installed compiz-kde)
[01:01] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: true
[01:01] <WaltzingAlong> smax: and when starting grub, press esc to get the menu then the onscreen should tell you how to get a prompt (c i think it is)
[01:01] <Dr_willis_> flick,  i just run ccsm from a terminal
[01:02] <Dr_willis_> flick,  i see an 'advanced dekstop effects settings' thats it. :)
[01:02] <Oakbox> flick: its called "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings" on my comp...
[01:02] <Dr_willis_> dont ask me WHY theres so many names for it.
[01:03] <Dr_willis_> or who even came up with that one. :)
[01:03] <edenbeast> anybody know what/where I need to change anything so I can drag my windows from 1 desktop to the other?
[01:03] <cobello5> OK it was simple in the end
[01:03] <cobello5> dns was blocked by default - weird
[01:03] <Linusx> Hey guys, I'll admit not fishing for myself... but somebody here ought to know off top of their head.  Will feisty run on an old 350 mhz slot loader iMac? (384 megs RAM)
[01:04] <WaltzingAlong> edenbeast: kmenu/system settings/window behavior/advanced/ active desktop borders
[01:04] <edenbeast> that's a G4 right?
[01:04] <Dr_willis_> Linusx,  ive had issues with those.. but it Should work.
[01:05] <Linusx> no, its a G3
[01:05] <Dr_willis_> Linusx,  not tried it in over a year however.
[01:05] <Dr_willis_> Linusx,  you may want to use the xubuntu variant.
[01:05] <Linusx> what issues Doc?
[01:06] <edenbeast> WaltzingAlong: yes, that's kind of the thing: I don't have activeborder :-/
[01:06] <Dr_willis_> Linusx,  console was shifted over about 4 characters.. never did find a fix for that.
[01:06] <Dr_willis_> And for Kubuntu: KMenu > Settings > CompizConfig Settings Manager or KMenu > Settings > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[01:06] <Dr_willis_> There we go.. BOTH entrys are in the wiki page now
[01:06] <WaltzingAlong> edenbeast: but you can enable it there. i have it enabled only when i am moving the windows
[01:06] <edenbeast> WaltzingAlong: or you mean that "only when moving setting" ? :-)
[01:06] <flick> Dr_willis, Oakbox where is advanced desktop effect settings in the K-Menu?
[01:06] <edenbeast> k great thx
[01:07] <Dr_willis_> flick,  at the top of the settings menu
[01:07] <Dr_willis_> flick,  if you just isntalled the packages - the menus may not be updated yet
[01:07] <Dr_willis_> flick,  use alt-f2 and run ccsm :)
[01:07] <WaltzingAlong> edenbeast: welcome
[01:07] <flick> Dr_willis, i see, thanks i ran ccsm from Konsole :)
[01:08] <Dr_willis_> and yes.. ccsm is one of the WORSE names i can think of for a new tool to use...
[01:08] <edenbeast> it has one of the worst UIs ever too
[01:08] <Dr_willis_> guess they dident want 'compiz-config' or compiz-setting-manager
[01:08] <WaltzingAlong> flick: kbuildsycoca to build the menus now
[01:08] <Dr_willis_> edenbeast,  yep.. its a complex interface..
[01:08] <flick> one more thing, in ubuntu (gnome) the xchat window would hilight if someone msged me... but that's not happening in kubuntu - how can i turn it on?
[01:08] <edenbeast> just plain ugly :P
[01:08] <fignew_> Linusx: I run Debian with KDE on my 233mhz iMac
[01:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: whats your channel again
[01:08] <Dr_willis_> ive seen MUCH worse :)
[01:09] <edenbeast> it's something you'd think RMS designed ;-)
[01:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: pm me it
[01:09] <Dr_willis_> They could be using some sort of Tree view with +'s all over
[01:09] <[ifr0g]> lol
[01:09] <Linusx> BTW, Where can the system info be found?  (similar to Apple System Profiler)
[01:09] <bascule> edenbeast: I think it's OK
[01:09] <Dr_willis_> flick,  it does it here for me under kde/xchat
[01:09] <WaltzingAlong> Linusx: i have kubuntu 7.04 on an amd k6-3 400mhz w/ about 192mb ram
[01:09] <Oakbox> when using compiz can i still use things like kde appearance system settings or does it all have to be done through emerald or somthing similar?
[01:09] <bascule> WaltzingAlong: are you serious?
[01:10] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: sure
[01:10] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  it depends.. :)
[01:10] <fignew_> Linusx: depends on what type of system info you want
[01:10] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  you are using Emerald themes - not kde themes for the window borders
[01:10] <bascule> WaltzingAlong: 192mb, thats gotta be nasty
[01:10] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: works rather well actually. of course i turned off the sound noticifications and gui effects
[01:10] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: yes im am
[01:10] <BluesKaj> with fluxbox such a setup would prolly run even faster WaltzingAlong
[01:10] <bascule> yeah, but this thing uses >200 on a clean boot with nothing going
[01:10] <WaltzingAlong> bascule: though the computer i am on now has more than that. 16mb video card so it works fine enough
[01:11] <WaltzingAlong> BluesKaj: sure and it does
[01:11] <Linusx> fignew: Looking for RAM, general MISC info like hard drive space use etc.
[01:11] <flick> Dr_willis, are you using xchat or a special version for kde?
[01:11] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  thats part of the 'rough spots' of the whole compiz+kde   integeration.
[01:11] <Dr_willis_> flick,  nope Just apt-get install xchat
[01:11] <BluesKaj> I ran dapper on 233 mhz MMX for a while , worked ok
[01:11] <Dr_willis_> flick,  check your xchat settings perhaps.
[01:11] <BluesKaj> 128 Ram
[01:11] <Dr_willis_> I ran dapper on a Pent 1 100,  64mb laptop! :)
[01:12] <bascule> yikes
[01:12] <BluesKaj> hehe
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> took like 3 hrs to install... 1x cdrom
[01:12] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: sorry im sure you get board of the constant questions :) hopefully one day i will be able to help answer some questions as well.  I find that some of the KDE stuff crashes if i use it...
[01:12] <Linusx> BluesKaj:  I'd like to confirm somebody ran it on an old AIO iMac if possible before giving it a shot.  Thanks
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  compiz is very much a work in progess.. thats why kubuntu dident install it by default.
[01:12] <Dr_willis_> Oakbox,  you gotta decide.. eye candy..or stability.. :)
[01:13] <WaltzingAlong> with several computers on a lan behind a router/gateway i quickly realized the benefit of apt-cacher and the like
[01:13] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: totaly understand. :)
[01:13] <Dr_willis_> WaltzingAlong,  thats still on my todo list! :)
[01:13] <Max-P> Can someone help me with my VIDEO problem??? Need to reset video to defaults
[01:13] <cobello5> can i copy a module from one computer to another, or does it need to be compiled in?
[01:13] <flick> Dr_willis, i'm using xchat... and just checked the settings, it is alright as far as i can tell - has blink traybar icon on message
[01:13] <bascule> same kernel same compiler you will be ok cobello5
[01:13] <bascule> other wise rebuild time
[01:14] <cobello5> bascule: if kernel version is different?
[01:14] <bascule> rebuild
[01:14] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis_: :D and i send apt-cacher through squid anyway! though i look forward to apt-torrent or whatever it will be called if such a thing materializes for 8.04
[01:14] <cobello5> doh
[01:14] <edenbeast> cobello if it's a minor version then it should probably work
[01:14] <bascule> edenbeast: it can be forced but it will compplain
[01:14] <cobello5> i have kubuntu here and sees my zydas chipset usb wireless adapter, ubuntu in other room doesnt run the same adapter
[01:15] <fignew_> Linusx: theres various utilities that you can run from the command line... "free" for memory usage "df -h" for HD usage... etc... there's also graphical apps.
[01:15] <cobello5> i installed an older kernel on my kubuntu tho
[01:16] <seriekrock> is it possible to find drivers for a lexmark x8350?
[01:16] <cobello5> how do i add the module to the other computer if it doesnt have internet?
[01:16] <Dr_willis_> seriekrock,  check the cups.org site to see how supported that printer is.
[01:16] <cobello5> the modules are kernel specific I guess?
[01:17] <Linusx> fignew:  Not familiar with command line yet.  (Still a noob) Would be great to either get used to commandline or find a gui app.
[01:17] <tekstacy> adept only opens in read-only mode, says another process is using the database. But I can't find that process. Any ideas?
[01:18] <Dr_willis_> !aptfix
[01:18] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:18] <tekstacy> Dr_willis_, Thanks!
[01:19] <WaltzingAlong> cobello5: usb stick? network? cdrw? floppy? hd transfer?
[01:19] <SeanTater> I have one package I don't want upgraded (ffmpeg), will that affect whether or not adept will upgrade my distro?
[01:20] <cobello5> WaltzingAlong: lol - I get that bit but what do I take over there, a deb file from somewhere?
[01:20] <cobello5> does it have to be for the exact kernel version
[01:20] <WaltzingAlong> cobello5: what would you be installing? nvidia or such?
[01:21] <cobello5> no, the module for the zydas wireless device I use here
[01:21] <edenbeast> SeanTater: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html (section 3.10)
[01:21] <cobello5> do I just look for a tarball of the device module?
[01:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i install kxdocker
[01:21] <Dr_willis_> !info kxdocker
[01:21] <ubotu> Package kxdocker does not exist in gutsy
[01:22] <cobello5> actually that wouldnt work
[01:22] <tomer_p> anyone recommend a good
[01:22] <cobello5> it would have to be a deb
[01:22] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  use the soruce if its not in the repos. or see if their homepage has a deb for gutsy
[01:22] <tomer_p> wysywig html editor for kubinutu
[01:22] <cobello5> since the comp doesnt have devs files
[01:22] <Dr_willis_> !find docker
[01:22] <ubotu> Found: docker, kdocker
[01:22] <flick> hi, when i restarted the comp, i see a black window called 'Adept Notifier' what is that?
[01:22] <bascule> tomer_p: quanta -> kdewebdev
[01:22] <Max-P> Howcan I reset the video settings to defaults
[01:22] <Dr_willis_> Max-P,  you mean your X display settings?
[01:23] <Max-P> Maybe
[01:23] <Dr_willis_> !fixres
[01:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:24] <Max-P> I will try
[01:24] <edenbeast> am I the only one that needs to restart kd when adding a panel or adding buttons to a panel and such?
[01:26] <tomer_p> ok i installed kdewebdev
[01:26] <tomer_p> how to run it?
[01:26] <tomer_p> kdewebdev on command line doesnt work
[01:27] <SeanTater> edenbeast: Thank you, and I might use that, but that's not precisely the issue. Adept is not giving me any dialog telling me I can upgrade after I press "Fetch Updates".
[01:28] <edenbeast> SeanTater: oh :-/  try the cli? "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:28] <Chousuke> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:28] <flick> is there a task manager?
[01:28] <joejoe1234> Installed kubuntu (gutsy) but the default file manager changed to dolphin. I like very much kfmclient (konqueror) but cannot figure out where to change the default back to kfmclient. Some hints?
[01:29] <WaltzingAlong> ctrl+esc flick or ksysguard
[01:29] <WaltzingAlong> joejoe1234: sure thing!
[01:29] <bobesponja> hi
[01:29] <flick> WaltzingAlong, thanks!
[01:29] <WaltzingAlong> joejoe1234: same here but for konqueror in place of dolphin http://sathyasays.com/?p=23
[01:29] <SeanTater> edenbeast: Okay --  I don't I just figured adept would change the repos and stuff for me, especially seeing that I did not find any upgrade notes anywhere else. So I just need to change every instance of "feisty" to "gutsy" right?
[01:29] <bobesponja> I'm trying to use my SIP phone but I get a message saying that port 5060 is already in use, is there a way to free that port or to know what application is using it?
[01:29] <edenbeast> SeanTater: yes that would work :-)
[01:29] <SeanTater> edenbeast: thanks
[01:30] <tomer_p> bascule: apt-get install kdewebdev gave me nothing i can run
[01:31] <tomer_p> only some gz files that do not open
[01:31] <WaltzingAlong> bobesponja: yes but i cannot recall it just now. man netstat may tell you
[01:31] <tomer_p> can the Konversation window be made to beep when a message inteded to you comes in?
[01:31] <joejoe1234> WaltzingAlong: Ok. Tks. One last question... there is some way for dolphin to work with tabs (each one at a different folder)?
[01:32] <bascule> tomer_p: just quanta
[01:32] <NickPresta> !compiz
[01:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:32] <dvayanu> how can i find out why ssh (client) hangs
[01:32] <WaltzingAlong> joejoe1234: as far as i know no
[01:32] <tomer_p> ok found the beep thing never mind
[01:33] <joejoe1234> WaltzingAlong: tks very much!
[01:33] <tomer_p> tomer_p: test
[01:33] <edenbeast> dvayanu: add -vvv  :-)
[01:33] <bobesponja> WaltzingAlong: netstat -anp |grep 5060
[01:33] <tomer_p> tomer_p: test
[01:33] <flick> even though i see 4 desktops, i can only switch to 2 of them, and all 4 show the tooltip 'Desktop 1'
[01:34] <dvayanu> debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
[01:34] <dvayanu> is last
[01:34] <edenbeast> flick are you running compiz?
[01:34] <flick> edenbeast, yeah
[01:35] <edenbeast> flick compiz doesn't use more than 1 desktop but it uses virtual workspaces, adjust vertical workspaces or something :-)
[01:35] <flick> also compiz switcher shows a lot many blank window icons
[01:35] <edenbeast> flick vertical or horizontal but I thought it was vertical (look for it in the ccsm application)
[01:35] <flick> ok
[01:36] <edenbeast> flick and set your desktops bck to 1
[01:37] <robert__> hello?
[01:37] <dvayanu> edenbeast: interesting, if i login from another computer to mine, from this shell i can ssh whereever i want to
[01:37] <bascule> is there away of *permanently* disabling that awful bell sound in konsole ...
[01:37] <tekteen> yes
[01:37] <johey> edenbeast: Now I think I have managed to set the key. However, when running iwconfig, I get "Access Point: Invalid". Do you know how to solve this?
[01:37] <edenbeast> settings/configure notifications
[01:38] <tekteen> settings > bell > none
[01:38] <bascule> ah there
[01:38] <tekteen> settings > save as default
[01:38] <bascule> tekteen: no, open a new tab, right back annoying the life out of me ...
[01:38] <tekteen> save as default
[01:38] <bascule> tekteen: had to restart it
[01:38] <tekteen> ok
[01:38] <bascule> that was why
[01:38] <bascule> :))
[01:39] <bascule> better now
[01:39] <tekteen> ok
[01:39] <tekteen> cool
[01:39] <robert__> I have a keyboard mapping question too.
[01:39] <edenbeast> johey if you copied my lines ad verbatim then you will see the ap line at the bottom, that specifies an accesspoint, obviously you don't have my accesspoint here :-) so omit that line
[01:40] <johey> edenbeast: A-ha! AP is access point. Smart. :=)
[01:40] <edenbeast> johey: wireless_ap 00:0F:3D:86:E2:4C  <-- make sure it's not there or that your own ap's mac is filled in
[01:40] <edenbeast> johey so just erase that line or comment it out by preceding it with a #
[01:42] <UnluckyMike> does kubuntu treat /etc/network/interfaces the same as ubuntu does?
[01:42] <johey> edenbeast: Actually, I did not put in that line, so it was omited. However, I do have the mac address of my access point. When putting it in, it still says invalid.
[01:42] <edenbeast> johey: then I don't immediately know either, sorry :-/
[01:43] <johey> edenbeast: Okay. Might be a driver problem then. :/ Thanks alot for your support, anyway!
[01:43] <edenbeast> johey is the essid set correctly?
[01:44] <flick> titlebars for all the windows have disappeared
[01:44] <flick> probably as a result of my initiating scale (compiz, default shortcut is Ctrl+Alt+Up i think)
[01:45] <flick> how do i disable compiz?
[01:45] <johey> edenbeast: Yes, it looks like that.
[01:45] <seriekrock> flick, you have to install emerald
[01:46] <flick> i have emerald already installed
[01:46] <dvayanu> edenbeast: manually removing the ssh-seahorse directory from tmp solved the issue
[01:46] <dvayanu> ssh-ZYCNm11189/
[01:46] <seriekrock> flick:  what do you have installed?
[01:48] <edenbeast> flick kwin --replace && killall kicker && pause 5 & kicker &   should do the trick I believe
[01:48] <wikipedia> hi
[01:48] <Agent_bob> hmmm mouse problem.  no worky with 2.4 kernel.   should work though, it's standard ps/2 two button.
[01:48] <tomer_p> yo the upgrade wizard isnt coming up on adept
[01:48] <wikipedia> ppl
[01:48] <flick> i followed the link for installing compiz on kubuntu in the ubuntu site, i have all the packages that it asked me to install
[01:48] <seriekrock> yo
[01:48] <wikipedia> hehehe
[01:49] <wikipedia> i use ubuntu
[01:49] <tomer_p> never mind found it
[01:49] <Agent_bob> wikipedia you use ubuntu ?
[01:49] <flick> edenbeast, thanks...
[01:50] <edenbeast> flick if you can't summon up a consle, drop to a tty and precede it with DISPLAY=":0.0"
[01:50] <flick> edenbeast, i did it on Alt+F2
[01:51] <tomer_p> ok its updating to 7.10
[01:51] <johey> edenbeast: Finally! :D Strange thing this one. iwlist scan helped me to find out that the mac address I got from my ISP is wrong. With the mac address output of iwlist, it works! :D
[01:51] <edenbeast> flick ok great, does it work? :-)
[01:51] <tomer_p> thisd better work smoothly or im switching back to windoz xp
[01:51] <edenbeast> johey great :D
[01:51] <flick> yeah works great! now the xchat blinks the taskbar too
[01:51] <Agent_bob> tomer_p sorry to hear that.
[01:51] <edenbeast> johey mac addresses can be changed
[01:51] <flick> pity though, i wanted to use compiz... guess i have to do without the eye-candy
[01:52] <tomer_p> just kidding
[01:52] <tomer_p> so will 7.10 give me a 3d desktop
[01:52] <tomer_p> with those nice kubes?
[01:52] <johey> edenbeast: That might be what has happened.
[01:52] <wikipedia> i've realized that actually i'm good with people
[01:52] <wikipedia> people are attracted to me
[01:52] <wikipedia> i've realized that i'm actually good with people.
[01:53] <wikipedia> that's good
[01:53] <edenbeast> ^^ ice-cream cone maybe? ;-)
[01:53] <Agent_bob> :)
[01:53] <flick> the problems i am facing with compiz could be because i used gnome before switching to kde
[01:54] <seriekrock> wikipedia: uuh?
[01:54] <wikipedia> ?
[01:54] <edenbeast> flick did you get compiz-kde?
[01:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how come my computer is running so slow
[01:54] <flick> edenbeast, yeah
[01:54] <tomer_p> ok all im starting the upgrade to 7.10 so i have to go now. i know you will miss me but i hope ill be back soon after the upgrade is done
[01:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> linux is supposed to be fast right?
[01:54] <edenbeast> flick do sudo apt-get --purge remove compiz* and then apt-get install it again maybe?
[01:55] <wikipedia> people should be saved from the misery of the burden of life created by few in power
[01:55] <wikipedia> us, common people, are changed through time from good to bad, because of pressures of life
[01:55] <wikipedia> we are forced to use fake common sense and follow fake customs
[01:55] <seriekrock> AT0M1CB0MB3R: bad computer? :-P
[01:55] <edenbeast> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it sure is, it's a version 2.6 already, while windows has only just gained XP by discovering new vistas ;-)
[01:55] <Agent_bob> we are off topic too
[01:55] <flick> edenbeast, will try that
[01:56] <edenbeast> I wonder if that wikipedia responds to !commands
[01:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> seriekrock: not bad computer
[01:56] <wikipedia> often i sense people are decent, yet they are prohibited from being good
[01:56] <Agent_bob> lol edenbeast
[01:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> edenbeast: i meant my computer is running slow and i have no idea why
[01:56] <seriekrock> AT0M1CB0MB3R: reinstall?
[01:57] <edenbeast> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it could be that that throttle program is on, the one that throttles back your computer to make your fan go more silent
[01:57] <wikipedia> prohibited by those few in power
[01:57] <edenbeast> forgot the name :-/
[01:57] <edenbeast> ah
[01:57] <edenbeast> powernowd
[01:57] <Agent_bob> wikipedia enough.   they wont let me preach in here so you don't get too either.
[01:57] <edenbeast> AT0M1CB0MB3R: do sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop and see if that helps :-)
[01:58] <wikipedia> because from them emanates rules of life that really should not be followed
[01:58] <flick> removed and purged compiz, compiz-kde, then added compiz-kde back, finally ran compiz --replace
[01:58] <flick> no problems so far!
[01:58] <edenbeast> flick don't forget emerald
[01:58] <wikipedia> innoncence of babes are lost forever and real common sense is lost.
[01:58] <flick> edenbeast, didn't purge it
[01:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> edenbeast: what is powernowd
[01:58] <Agent_bob> !offtopic > wikipedia
[01:58] <Agent_bob> !offtopic > wikipedia
[01:58] <Agent_bob> !offtopic > wikipedia
[01:58] <Agent_bob> !offtopic > wikipedia
[01:59] <wikipedia> i will help others in need and break the chain of command.
[01:59] <edenbeast> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it's something that throttles back your CPU so it produces less heat == less fan action needed, thus less sound, ubuntu has it on by default I believe
[01:59] <wikipedia> i will bring back decency back into the world. amen.
[01:59] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !offtopic | wikipedia
[01:59] <ubotu> wikipedia: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:59] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: Don't spam him
[01:59] <edenbeast> I'm pretty sure wikipedia is a bot
[02:00] <DaSkreech> edenbeast: Sadly no
[02:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> edenbeast: so why disable it it sounds good
[02:00] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech don't spam him ?  heh.
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: try !ops
[02:00] <wikipedia> because from them emanates rules of life that really should not be followed
[02:00] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech you try it.
[02:00] <DaSkreech> !ops
[02:00] <edenbeast> oh so he'll actually notice when you do a /msg spam bomb? :P
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[02:01] <wikipedia> edenbeast, i am human while you are not.
[02:02] <edenbeast> it is true, I cometh from the 6th circle. :P
[02:02] <stdin> DaSkreech: what's going on?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> A misunderstanding
[02:02] <CPrgmSwR2> Is there a way to get rid of the pckage manager constantly asking me to upgrade to gutsy?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> wikipedia was spamming gospel into the channel
[02:03] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Not currentyl
[02:03] <stdin> mmk
[02:03] <johey_> In Gutsy, kopete chrashes when I'm connecting to MSN. Is that a known one, or is it just me?
[02:03] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: is this a bug?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> stdin: I was showing someone how to call for ops and ljl thought I was tricking them and removed me
[02:03] <edenbeast> 1 app I like a lot better than the kde version is the terminal services client that the regular ubuntu has, it's way better in terms of options
[02:03] <DaSkreech>  the offender has been warned and removed so it's good now
[02:04] <edenbeast> unless I missed it I don't think the kde version allows you to latch on to the console for instance :-/
[02:04] <stdin> DaSkreech: the person you were showing already knows about it (he's intelikeys alter-ego)
[02:05] <flick> edenbeast, thanks
[02:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> edenbeast: thanks my computer is running way better
[02:05] <NickPresta> !find pidgin > NickPresta
[02:05] <wikipedia> i want to help my family
[02:05] <DaSkreech> stdin: Well he was spamming
[02:05] <stdin> johey_: 32 or 64bit ?
[02:05] <LjL> DaSkreech: sorry, i've been too impulsive. !ops abuse gets on my nerves - i apologize
[02:05] <johey_> stdin: 64.
[02:05] <edenbeast> AT0M1CB0MB3R: well it basically cuts your processing power in half :-)
[02:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> edenbeast: i dont care about that
[02:06] <DaSkreech> LjL: I understand I can imagine being on the other end
[02:06] <stdin_> i want to help my family
[02:06] <stdin> DaSkreech: I suspect it was probably a bug in his client (has happened before)
[02:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> stdin_: who cares?
[02:06] <stdin> johey_: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb < install that to fix
[02:07] <flick> konqueror or firefox?
[02:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> LjL: all he has to do is reset his modem
[02:07] <LjL> AT0M1CB0MB3R: any better suggestion?
[02:07] <DaSkreech> stdin: That prays for our salvation? :)
[02:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> LjL: as long as hes gone :]
[02:07] <stdin> AT0M1CB0MB3R: to answer your question, me, so there
[02:08] <edenbeast> somebody really needs to invent punchOverIP
[02:08] <stdin> AT0M1CB0MB3R: forgot the ':p' at the end
[02:08] <edenbeast> it would make a game like counterstrike more interesting too ;-)
[02:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> LjL i wish you could ban his mac address or hardware
[02:08] <LjL> AT0M1CB0MB3R: unfortunately that's not possible
[02:09] <NickPresta> this reminds me of the bash.org quote about stabbing people through IRC. lol
[02:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> yeah
[02:09] <johey_> stdin: Very nice. It works. Thanks! :)
[02:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> what about his eprom LjL
[02:10] <LjL> :)
[02:11] <NickPresta> Is there any application which will remove menu entries for applications which are no longer installed?
[02:12] <mike-kubuntu> hey, all my sdl games the keyboard and mouse import is messed up
[02:12] <mike-kubuntu> the mouse is stuck as moving down, the keboard is stuck on pressing right
[02:13] <Oakbox> im having a bit of trouble getting amarok to use my Audigy sound card as a default, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Oakbox: Do you need the onboard sound?
[02:14] <Oakbox> DaSkreech: not realy no
[02:14] <gameforge> I did the impossible: I got compiz and emerald to work on Kubuntu Gutsy with an ATI radeon.
[02:14] <gameforge> Finally...
[02:14] <DaSkreech> Oakbox: disable it in BIOS
[02:14] <NickPresta> gameforge: congrats :)
[02:14] <Oakbox> DaSkreech: ;) that would work thanks :) hehe
[02:14] <gameforge> thx :)
[02:14] <mike-kubuntu> Oakbox: lots of times you need to disable the onboard for windows as well
[02:16] <[Relic]> any idea why firestarter just crashes?   I look and it is gone again  :(
[02:17] <xipietotec> anyone notice that the kde4 packages in us.archive are broken?
[02:18] <NickPresta> xipietotec: nope. What's broken about them?
[02:18] <[Relic]> more important question, why isn't firefox seeing java is installed
[02:19] <xipietotec> NickPresta, kde4addons contains a file which is also in kde4base, and kde4addons depends on kde4base, so they error out and wont install
[02:19] <flick> is xchat the preferred irc client for KDE, or is there a kchat?
[02:19] <NickPresta> flick: Konversation, I believe
[02:19] <NickPresta> and [Relic] have you restarted Firefox since you installed Java?
[02:19] <edenbeast> yes Koonversation, it's under the internet menu
[02:19] <DaSkreech> !irc
[02:19] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[02:20] <stdin> flick: konversation is the default in kubuntu (pre-installed)
[02:20] <[Relic]> NickPresta, yep I will try uninstalling and reinstalling to check it
[02:20] <gameforge> So how do I solve the taskbar issue with compiz on KDE?  I.e. instead of all progs showing up on all desktops, only have the ones on the current desktop?
[02:21] <NickPresta> gameforge: right click on your taskbar > configure > Taskbar: do you have "Show windows from all screens" ticked off?
[02:22] <crazy_bus> in all the past releases of kubuntu when I opened something in firefox from akregator it would just open.  But not in gutsy I have to click twice on akregator after each page to put the focus back on it.  Why is this?
[02:22] <gameforge> Hold on, I'll check
[02:23] <gameforge> It's unchecked
[02:23] <NickPresta> gameforge: try checking it.
[02:23] <gameforge> OK, I tried checking it, hit apply and closed, spun the cube... still get all programs on all desktops
[02:24] <NickPresta> gameforge: hmm. no idea then. Perhaps someone else will have an answer for you shortly
[02:24] <stdin> gameforge: it's a compiz bug, well known and old
[02:24] <edenbeast> well there's noly 1 'desktop' as far as compiz is concerned :-/
[02:25] <gameforge> Yeah I remember having the issue with beryl ages ago - seems to me there was a KDE taskbar alternative somewhere, but I can't find it now
[02:25] <Oakbox> Dr_willis_: hi, erm i just reboted and it loaded up compiz automaticaly :S
[02:25] <NickPresta> gameforge: well, I've been using Beryl for a while now and it's never gave me any problems. CF on the other hand, didn't handle my twinview setup properly. I don't know what to say...
[02:26] <BigDaddy> well, I have spent several hours in Gutsy. So far all the crash problems I had are gone.
[02:27] <BigDaddy> Even got my /home moved to a seperate partition
[02:28] <flick> kicker taskbar buttons no longer flash on highlight after i installed compiz
[02:28] <NickPresta> flick: yeah, that happened to me too. I don't know of a fix.
[02:30] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: \o/
[02:30] <sparr> the new kernel seems very gaming-friendly
[02:30] <BluesKaj> BigDaddy, very cool :)
[02:31] <[Relic]> this is weird, I installed the java runtime, but it keeps saying I need to install java, does that mean I just need to mozilla plugin?  or is there something else I am missing?
[02:31] <BluesKaj> I never bothered with a seperate partition for /home ...I guess I should but i din't have much luck saving my settings the last time i tried it
[02:32] <jpwhiting> hi all, anyone here got nvidia drivers to load after getting unknown symbol messages when trying?
[02:32] <Oakbox> jpwhiting: sorry nv installed fine for me
[02:33] <jpwhiting> Oakbox: nv works for me too, but I'd like to use nvidia, as it usually has better performance for me
[02:33] <stdin> [Relic]: have you installed sun-java6-plugin ?
[02:33] <NickPresta> jpwhiting: I use nvidia and it worked flawlessly after installing from restricted-manager
[02:34] <jpwhiting> I get messages like unknown symbol fb_dcc_read, etc.
[02:34] <jpwhiting> ok, I'll try from there
[02:34] <werty> hi
[02:34] <NickPresta> jpwhiting: uninstall any nvidia driver you have, then use the restricted-manager. give that a shot
[02:34] <Oakbox> jpwhiting: oops i did mean nvidia didnt know there was an nv as well... (shows my age in linux i suppose)
[02:34] <NickPresta> hi, werty
[02:34] <jpwhiting> :)
[02:34] <jpwhiting> k, cool, I'll try that next
[02:35] <BluesKaj> installing java-common as well, solves quite a few probs
[02:35] <werty> what is better and why guarddog or firestarter?
[02:36] <Oakbox> does anyone have the little update icon floating in a window that you cant close and not in the taskbar?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox: in XGL/compiz? yeah
[02:36] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: im using compiz yeah
[02:37] <DaSkreech> werty:
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> Oakbox: yeah... it sometimes happens... i'm not quite sure why
[02:37] <DaSkreech> the one you like better
[02:38] <werty> i mean firestarter controls the protocols and the other one the ports....
[02:38] <werty> i think...
[02:38] <Oakbox> nosrednaekim: ok, :) as long as its not me...  while i have your attention though :P i was told when installing compiz and running compiz --replace it would only run compiz untill i reboot...  well i did that and compiz is still running :S
[02:39] <NickPresta> Oakbox: it's probably because you have logged in and your session was restored...
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Oakbox: KDE?
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: +1
[02:39] <Oakbox> DaSkreech: yep
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Oakbox: It remembers what programs you had running and restores them when you login
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Much easier than Gnome
[02:40] <Oakbox> NickPresta: ok how do i do it without it reloading it :)
[02:40] <[Relic]> yay!  firestarter gave me an error, not sure what it means yet, but at least I have something to work with
[02:40] <DaSkreech> Oakbox: If you want it to stop just load back up kwin and then logout
[02:40] <NickPresta> Oakbox: at the login screen, click on the menu icon and select "KDE" instead of "Default (previous)"
[02:40] <Oakbox> DaSkreech: i did look at gnome but i have only just learnt what all the apps are in KDE :) hehe
[02:41] <werty> how does firestarter determines which ports to allow?
[02:41] <DaSkreech> Well if you were worried that compiz had become selfaware and was watching you to plt your wobble of death.. rest at ease
[02:41] <DaSkreech>  KDE is just owrking to make your life easier
[02:41] <DaSkreech> Working
[02:41] <edenbeast> anyone else having a problem with videos when using xv as the output driver? after a few videos the image turns a greensih distortion and it won't go away regard less of the player used.
[02:41] <Oakbox> Ta muchly. hehe
[02:41] <[Relic]> ok to post an error line?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> edenbeast: are you running XGL?
[02:42] <vbgunz> someone please help. I've spent the last couple hours rebooting trying to automount get my external devices to automount while at the same, only allowing me and root read/write access to them. every other account should be read only!
[02:42] <edenbeast> no
[02:42] <[ifr0g]> .
[02:42] <BigDaddy> BluesKaj: so far, I have just had a minor hiccup. Like Konversation not notifying me when says my name
[02:42] <vbgunz> hours on this with no results... I tried so many options in fstab it isn't funny. I cannot get what I need to work, can anyone help?
[02:42] <bascule> vbgunz: set the entry to user in fstab instead of users
[02:42] <flick> guess i will stop using compiz, NickPresta
[02:42] <edenbeast> at least I don't think so, kubuntu still uses xorg right? :-/
[02:43] <edenbeast> vbgunz did you try uid options?
[02:43] <vbgunz> bascule: no joke, I tried so many different things. I set uid and gid to 1000 and that always results in permission denied
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> edenbeast: unless you are running compiz with an ATI card.
[02:43] <vbgunz> I set it to my name too and that doesn't work
[02:43] <BluesKaj> BigDaddy, theres a setting in konversation that will flash red if your name is typed in the chat
[02:43] <[ifr0g]> vbgunz, what fs is it ?
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: settings->notifications
[02:44] <BluesKaj> not the setting but the konv tab
[02:44] <bascule> vbgunz: if you want that level of control from hald/hot-plug mount, I have no idea, static discs I can do no problem
[02:44] <edenbeast> vbgunz add
[02:44] <edenbeast> "<append key="volume.mount.valid_options"
[02:44] <edenbeast> type="strlist">uid=</append>"
[02:44] <vbgunz> they're all vfat but in fstab I have them as auto because they're sticks, usb cards, etc. the fs I would predict could change
[02:44] <edenbeast> to that file I talked you about earlier and then try with the uid options in /etc/fstab
[02:44] <bascule> edenbeast: nice
[02:45] <vbgunz> edenbeast: not sure what you mean, that doesn't go into fstab :/
[02:46] <edenbeast> not that goes in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi
[02:46] <edenbeast> in the vfat section
[02:46] <bascule> vbgunz: considered the mount dir as 755?
[02:46] <vbgunz> you told me about a file before but I forgot. I found trying to mess with fstab easier but really it proved to be a pain in the ass... I always ended up with permission denied or I couldn't mount/unmount... very frustrating :(
[02:46] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: what it do?
[02:46] <edenbeast> but I must say if you make correct fstab setings, pmount should check there first
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: what does what do?
[02:47] <bascule> vbgunz: how many other users are actually on this system?
[02:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: thats like saying whats up
[02:47] <edenbeast> can't you just precreate mount directories with the correct permissions and have it mount there?
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: ah :) not much.
[02:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim:  lol
[02:47] <BigDaddy> nos
[02:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: not familour wiff black slang?
[02:47] <[Relic]> stdin, Thanks, working now  :)
[02:47] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: found it. Don't know why that setting didn't transfer over
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: nope. sorry, i'm not gangsta
[02:48] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: not familiar wiff black slang?
[02:48] <stdin> [Relic]: no problem :)
[02:48] <edenbeast> if all else fails you can add "<append key="volume.mount.valid_options" type="strlist">ro</append>"  that mounts it read only by default
[02:48] <BigDaddy> BluesKaj: I got it.
[02:48] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nosrednaekim: im Gster
[02:48] <vbgunz> my account and my sons account. I would like read/write access to everything but restrict him to write access to his home dir. I do not want him, writing, deleting, modifying files on external devices in any way :/
[02:48] <BigDaddy> Also wanted to let you guys know that the /home moving was a lot easier than I had feared
[02:48] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, hi
[02:48] <BluesKaj> cool BigDaddy :)
[02:48] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: i thought you went to sleep
[02:48] <vbgunz> edenbeast: is there no way to handle the external device permissions from fstab alone?
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: thats good! I think they should make it that way by default
[02:48] <[ifr0g]> AT0M1CB0MB3R, Could not get any..:(
[02:49] <[Relic]> now if I can figure out why firestarter is crashing I will be happy  :)
[02:49] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: you are right. That should be linux 101
[02:49] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: dang
[02:49] <BigDaddy> the only hard part is dropping into a CLI after installation and changing the mount point.
[02:50] <BigDaddy> As long as you print out the instructions though, piece of cake
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: its far easier when you do it upon install
[02:51] <BigDaddy> I never had the option during install. Maybe if I used the alternative installation disc?
[02:51] <vbgunz> edenbeast: I am really concerned with messing with that file. I trust you but I don't trust myself. I cannot believe this is harder than I could have imagined it :(
[02:52] <Kr4t05> I have a rather complicated problem... Bare with me as I tell my sad tail:
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: no... you did, you just have to do manual partitioning
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: its "tale" but go ahead ;)
[02:52] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: ah... that explains it. I had that HD disconected during install
[02:53] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: that HD also has my emergency XP installation on it. If it is hooked up during install, Kubuntu makes a bootloader
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: ah...
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> I think you can tell it whcih HD to install grub on now..
[02:54] <edenbeast> vbgunz I think I found what you need :-) you'll need to read a bit but in the middle they already talk about group= optionshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[02:54] <Kr4t05> It started when I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy last night. Initially the upgrade went fine. Then, for reason even I'm not entirely sure of, I deleted ~/.kde. I expected that KDE would fall back to the default settings and rebuild things, but something went wrong. Now, I can't log back into my default user account, as it hangs at "Initializing system services". I'm currently using a secondary user account. Any help?
[02:54] <Kr4t05> I've already performed a fresh install via the Gutsy CD.
[02:55] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: I think once I get my Zen player working 100%, my cell phone working 100%, then I will dump the windows partition completely
[02:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BigDaddy: what do you do with your cell
[02:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BigDaddy: i mod phones i use linux on my phone and ipod
[02:56] <Kr4t05> Does anyone have any leads on this issue?
[02:56] <seriekrock> hey you can use both ipods and cellphones in linux
[02:56] <Kr4t05> I've already tried copying the .kde file from this user account to my old user account.
[02:56] <Dr_willis_> Kr4t05,  thats odd..
[02:56] <killer_> I have a few pdf files that I would like to put all into one pdf.. any hints?
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: weird.
[02:57] <Kr4t05> Well, sure... That's why it has me rather irritated at the moment. :/
[02:57] <Gun_Smoke> You know for all the install problems I've been reading about I haven't ran into a single issuse yet.. /me knocks on wood
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> Gun_Smoke: lucky ;)
[02:57] <BigDaddy> AT0M1CB0MB3R: just moving themes, sound files and so on
[02:57] <Dr_willis_> make a new usser. copy all ya data files over to his dir if his kde works. :) then chown the data files.
[02:57] <killer_> is there a tool.. something like "mergepdf"
[02:57] <[ka]killer> i have a question
[02:57] <Kr4t05> Dr_willis_: Yeah, I guess that would work.
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> !pdf
[02:57] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[02:58] <BigDaddy> it's a Sony Ericsson 300i
[02:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BigDaddy: what phone do you have? v3 razr
[02:58] <BigDaddy> or maybe W300i
[02:58] <[ka]killer> if i remove, and reinstall all teh files that have to do with xine, should that fix the problems im having with it? do you think the problem is with the packages themselves and not just my install
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> Kr4t05,  thebn delete the old user. :) and remake him. But i wonder if its not some permission issue going on.
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> Kr4t05,  may want to kill X. and start up kde/X with 'startx' to see if any error messages show up as a hint.
[02:58] <atlfalcons866> is kde4 going to be in the resportorys?
[02:58] <bascule> Kr4t05: rm -f ~/.DCOP*
[02:58] <atlfalcons866> when its released
[02:58] <bwayne> killer_: try cat'ing the files into one outfile.
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> atlfalcons866: its already in them
[02:59] <[ka]killer> bwayne: how so?
[02:59] <atlfalcons866> thats beta
[02:59] <Dr_willis_> atlfalcons866,  so ? :)
[02:59] <bwayne> killer_: cat file1 file2 file3 > outfile
[02:59] <Kr4t05> bascule: I'll try that.
[02:59] <Kr4t05> Here's hoping, guys.
[02:59] <atlfalcons866> will 512mb ram run kde4
[02:59] <[ka]killer> um... how would that help?
[02:59] <edenbeast> 640K should be enough for everybody ;-)
[03:00] <BigDaddy> Anyone here have a Creative Zen Vision player?
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> edenbeast,  its 10x more then my C64 needed
[03:00] <Xera> Anyone got a SpeedTouch 330 working in 7.10?
[03:00] <atlfalcons866> 2GB is the minium in vista in my experience
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: no...but they are quite well supported
[03:00] <edenbeast> hell yeah, now that was a machine :D
[03:00] <killer_> bwayne: hmm.. worth a try.. don't think that will comform to PDF specifications tho
[03:00] <Xera> I get an error about /proc/bus/usb/devices not existing
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: amarok should handle it fine
[03:00] <bwayne> killer_: can't hurt.  you may be right though.  I've cat'ed iso's together before in that fashion.  might work.
[03:01] <BigDaddy> nosrednaekim: the old Nomad are well supported. But my Vision W shows up as a camera
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> BigDaddy: lol, MTP should support it just fine.. did you try amarok with it yet?
[03:01] <BigDaddy> the protocol they use is a photo transfer protocol hacked for music.
[03:01] <Dr_willis_> heh..
[03:01] <MoLerner> My videocard is displaying weird flickering artifacts after coming out of suspend in Vista. would moving to Grub + dualboot have caused this?
[03:01] <BigDaddy> I tried it on 7.04, not on 7.10
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> MoLerner,  i highly doubt it.
[03:02] <dick-richardson> I swapped sound cards and the new one is working great...is there something I should run to remove references to the old one? depmod or something similar?
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> MoLerner: dun't think so
[03:02] <MoLerner> thanks so much
[03:02] <Kr4t05> bascule: No dice, I guess I'll have to go the deletion-recreation route.
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> MoLerner,  if you cold boot from power off to windows..  and it does work.. THEN reboot to linux/reboot back to windows and it has issues.. THEN you may have a point.
[03:02] <bascule> Kr4t05: well see what's in tmp to
[03:03] <Kr4t05> But, that means passing about 50GB of music/movies and anime. :P
[03:03] <Dr_willis_> MoLerner,  but i doubt if linux has anything to do with it.
[03:03]  * [ka]killer removes xine 
[03:03] <killer_> bwayne: nope.. get huge file that displays only one page
[03:03] <Gun_Smoke> And anyhow.. I dropped by to ask if there are any good reads out there for coming from gnome to KDE.. As of the fresh install of 7.10 I've opted to run full KDE..
[03:03] <Dr_willis_> Gun_Smoke,   start exploring kde.. :) its rather straightforwared.
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> Gun_Smoke: I don't know of any... just ask in here any Questions you have :)
[03:03] <Kr4t05> bascule: kde-andrew (the primary account)
[03:04] <[ka]killer> f***IK THAT WAS NOT SMART
[03:04] <Gun_Smoke> Dr_willis_: nosrednaekim Thanks.. I'm poking around now..
[03:04] <Kr4t05> bascule: Should I nuke it?
[03:04] <bascule> Kr4t05: well from where you are now try removing /tmp/ksocket-OLD_USER stuff and redo th .DCOP also do ~/.ICEauthority and ~/.Xauthority
[03:04] <[ka]killer> crap T_T
[03:04] <[ka]killer> john@kotoko:~$ sudo apt-get remove amarok-xine libxine-dev libxine-xvdr libxine1 libxine1-console libxine1-ffmpeg libxine1-gnome libxine1-plugins libxineliboutput-fbfe libxinerama-dev libxinerama1 vdr-plugin-xineliboutput x11proto-xinerama-dev xine-ui
[03:04] <[ka]killer> was not a smart thing to do
[03:05] <Dr_willis_> hmm.. just had several updates.. Looks like the patches have begun! :)
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> [ka]killer: just reinstall the,
[03:05] <[ka]killer> HELLLLLP!!!!! ]
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> *them
[03:05] <[ka]killer> im trying
[03:05]  * Dr_willis_ wonders what uninstalling xine had to do with anything...
[03:05] <Kr4t05> bascule: Done, done and done.
[03:05] <Kr4t05> Log out and in?
[03:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ka]killer: use vlc player?
[03:05] <bascule> k, good luck
[03:05] <Kr4t05> Thanks.
[03:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ka]killer: sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:06] <Dr_willis_> i do like vlc. :)
[03:06] <julius> Anyone having bugs with the login manager for 7.10?
[03:06] <Dr_willis_> julius,  not that i am aware of.
[03:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: are you the real Dr_willis?
[03:06] <edenbeast> I think smplayer is great
[03:06] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  Yes.. both of me are me..
[03:06] <killer_> hey bwayne ,  pdftk
[03:06] <Dr_willis_> One is the pc in the basement.
[03:06] <edenbeast> best version of mplayer I've seen so far
[03:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: get on the other guy then
[03:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i like him better
[03:07] <bwayne> killer_: or pdfjam.
[03:07] <[ka]killer> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:07] <[ka]killer> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:07] <Dr_willis_> when i am in the basemet i am that one. :)
[03:07] <bascule> ooooops
[03:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ka]killer: you have adept open
[03:07] <bascule> :))
[03:07] <[ka]killer> no
[03:07] <Dr_willis_> im in the kitchen at the moment.
[03:07] <[ka]killer> no i dont
[03:07] <[ka]killer> it started to remove adept and i closed the terminal
[03:07] <julius> Dr_willis: Well after a failed login  the input areas appeared to be greyed out but they were still active. Restarting X fixed it
[03:07] <Linux_Galore> I couldnt find any Kubuntu Gutsy CD artwork so I have posted some on www.kde-look.org  just now
[03:07] <[ka]killer> im screwed T_T
[03:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ka]killer: [ka]killerlog out and log in? then try the code
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Linux_Galore: there is a kubuntu-art site aswell
[03:08] <Kr4t05> bascule: Still not working. :/
[03:08] <jpwhiting> no luck..., actually for some reason when I try to load nvidia or nvidia_new it says it can't find the device for some reason
[03:08] <Linux_Galore> nosrednaekim: its just a quick hack of a LTS image
[03:08] <bascule> Kr4t05: arrrrgh, I am sure I resoved this for myself, long tome agi on mandrake 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade and it was cause of those sockets
[03:08] <bwayne> killer_: this looks promising.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfsam/
[03:08] <jpwhiting> wonder if I need some module for my motherboard so the kernel can find it or something
[03:09] <jpwhiting> but the nv driver works... :(
[03:09] <Gun_Smoke> what do we have in the form of gDesklets?
[03:09] <Linux_Galore> nosrednaekim: kubuntu-art has no Gutsy images either, are you saying post the image there too
[03:09] <[ka]killer> didnt help
[03:09] <[ka]killer> CRAP
[03:09] <Dr_willis_> !info gdesklets
[03:09] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> Linux_Galore: yeah
[03:09] <[ka]killer> T_T
[03:09] <Dr_willis_> gdesklets are for Gnome I do belive
[03:10] <Dr_willis_> Not sure how well they work for KDe.
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> !screenlets
[03:10] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[03:10] <Linux_Galore> !artwork
[03:10] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:10] <bascule> Gun_Smoke: superkaramba
[03:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ka]killer: why did you close the terminal when uninstalling adept
[03:10] <jpwhiting> Dr_willis_: they work ok in kde last time I used them
[03:10] <bascule> !info superkaramba
[03:10] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[03:10] <Kr4t05> bascule: I have the following rm line going on: "sudo rm -rf /tmp/*-andrew/ /home/andrew/.kde* /home/andrew/.DCOP* /home/andrew/.ICEauthority /home/andrew/.Xauthority"
[03:10] <Dr_willis_> jpwhiting,  ive yet to really see any of them worth using. :)
[03:10] <Kr4t05> Would that work?
[03:10] <Gun_Smoke> bascule: ty
[03:10] <Dr_willis_> jpwhiting,  i am using Conky however. ;)
[03:10] <Dr_willis_> !info conky
[03:10] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[03:11] <bascule> Kr4t05: that really should do it ... :)
[03:11] <bascule> if not i dunno
[03:11] <jpwhiting> anyone here know what sort of modules I'd need for the kernel to be able to find pci-e nvidia card?
[03:11] <Kr4t05> Basically kill anything KDE-related that might lock me out. :P
[03:11] <jpwhiting> when I load nvidia it says device not found, etc.
[03:11] <bascule> Kr4t05: yes al sorts of interlocked kde stuff that lost bits from.kde
[03:11] <[ka]killer> ok i had to kill dpkg
[03:11] <Dr_willis_> jpwhiting,  i dident need to mess with that at all.. Odd.. where/why are you manually loading the nvidia module?
[03:11] <jpwhiting> does pci-e use the agp bus?
[03:12] <jpwhiting> Dr_willis_: from the console when X doesn't start when set to use nvidia
[03:12] <jpwhiting> works fine with nv though :(
[03:12] <jpwhiting> I think it might have something to do with my weird asus motherboard or something
[03:12] <Dr_willis_> jpwhiting,  you sure you got the nvidia packages installed properly?
[03:12] <jpwhiting> Dr_willis_: yep
[03:12] <Dr_willis_> only module i see related to it is ------->  agpgart                35016  1 nvidia
[03:12] <Dr_willis_> thats from the lsmod command
[03:13] <jpwhiting> ah, lemme see if I have agpgart, one moment
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> i2c_core               26112  2 nvidia,i2c_nforce2
[03:13] <jpwhiting> is your nvidia card agp? or pci-e?
[03:13] <jpwhiting> yep, I have agpgart loaded
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> PCIE 8800GTSXXX card here.
[03:13] <jpwhiting> and ali_agp and ati_agp
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> what is your exact card?
[03:13] <jpwhiting> pcie 7300 GS
[03:14] <attunix> How do I get GTK installed? I keep getting an "error: gtk/gtk.h: no such file or directory".
[03:14] <jpwhiting> from lspci:
[03:14] <jpwhiting> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] (rev a1)
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> it might be a bug with that card and the nvidia drivers.
[03:14] <besonen_mobile_> where's the 7.10 changelog?
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> attunix,  what is giving you that error? Trying to compile somthing?
[03:15] <Kr4t05> bascule: Here's a pastebin of /home/andrew
[03:15] <julius> How do i stop kate from by default opening all the stuff i try to download]
[03:15] <Kr4t05> bascule: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41469/
[03:15] <attunix> Dr_willis_: yes
[03:15] <[ka]killer> wtf my mouse randomly jumps to the top right corner of my screen
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> attunix,  thenyou need to install the various gtk developer packages.
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> attunix,  no idea which one however. :)
[03:15] <attunix> ok.
[03:16] <Oakbox> Night all
[03:16] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: May want to turn on THE OSD as well
[03:16] <BigDaddy> DaSkreech: how did you know I had that?
[03:17] <jpwhiting> yes, maybe
[03:17] <bascule> .ICEauthority  .Xauthority are files and still there, re-created at last login attempt?
[03:18] <surgy> how long does it take for my sound card to completely initialize after a log in to xwindows? i mean from time the mixer and drivers load until a game can use it?
[03:18] <Linux_Galore> nosrednaekim: http://kubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+7.10+Gutsy+CD+DVD+Artwork+(Unofficial)?content=68219
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> surgy: they should be loaded before x even starts
[03:18] <Kr4t05> bascule: I guess.
[03:18] <[ka]killer> bah
[03:18] <surgy> nosrednaekim: ok thnx
[03:18] <Kr4t05> I don't think sudo is working... Maybe permissions are messed up?
[03:19] <bascule> nah
[03:19] <bascule> sudo will clobber it
[03:19] <[ka]killer> ...
[03:19] <[ka]killer> ok something is really screwed up
[03:19] <Kr4t05> bascule: Oh... This user isn't a sudoer. ><
[03:19] <Kr4t05> BRB
[03:19] <[ka]killer> i think i need to re-format again T_T
[03:20] <[ka]killer> but first i need to burn a gusty disk...
[03:20] <Dr_willis_> Spoken like a windows user! :)
[03:20] <[ka]killer> and its not detecting my burner....
[03:21] <[ka]killer> T_T
[03:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ka]killer: why do you just try to fix it
[03:21] <[ka]killer> im trying
[03:21] <[ka]killer> but nothign is working....
[03:21] <[ka]killer> screw it
[03:21] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ka]killer: before reinstalling so you learn something
[03:22] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ka]killer: ill try look on google
[03:22] <[ka]killer> reinstalling festy
[03:22] <[ka]killer> maybe then xine wont be f**ked up
[03:22] <rance> Is there a way to have apt-get automatically install "suggested packages" when they are listed?
[03:22] <killer_> bwayne: pdftk *.pdf cat output combined.pdf
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> rance: use aptitude, which does that
[03:24] <michael> Hola
[03:24] <abe> !es
[03:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:24] <abe> compiz run on 7,.1?
[03:24] <abe> 7.10
[03:24] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[03:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[03:24] <michael> Alguien me sabe decir que tiene de especial la version 7.10?
[03:25] <[ka]killer> dam it all
[03:25] <[ka]killer> its not detecting my cd drive so i cant boot from it
[03:25] <abe> Dr_willis_: i tried to fallow that instruction on feisty in didn't work
[03:25] <bwayne> killer_: sweet.  that'll come in handy.
[03:25] <michael> !spanish
[03:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:25] <Dr_willis_> abe,  its not for feisty.
[03:26] <[ka]killer> >_<
[03:26] <[ka]killer> its not detecting my cd drive to boot from
[03:26] <abe> ok i will try
[03:26] <[ka]killer> its not detecting it to burn
[03:26] <[ka]killer> WTF
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> [ka]killer: reinstall xine?
[03:26] <killer_> bwayne: yep.. I have a notebook and I scanned the pages to pdf, now I have a digital notebook :)
[03:26] <[ka]killer> it didnt get a chance to remove xine... it started with adept and kde
[03:26] <[ka]killer> + i already did that
[03:27] <bwayne> killer_: what program you use to scan?
[03:27] <[ka]killer> scan for what?
[03:27] <killer_> bwayne: I did a project for a client and now that it's all done.. I want them to have a copy of my notes since they paid for all this
[03:28] <bwayne> killer_: nice professional touch.
[03:28] <killer_> bwayne: aahh.. I was time pressed .. I cheated.. my next door neighbor has a printing company, makes books,manuals and the like, ....
[03:28] <[ka]killer> ...
[03:28] <[ka]killer> professional nothign right now im just trying not to screw my box over
[03:28] <[ka]killer> its the only 'working' comp in teh house right now
[03:28] <killer_> bwayne: ... he has a really nice copy machine with scan to pdf.. each page took about 2 seconds to make pdf
[03:28] <Dr_willis_> a huge pdf with lots of jpgs in it! :)
[03:29] <[ka]killer> um...
[03:29] <bwayne> killer_: i have a HP Officejet that works well with Kooka.  HP Utils are buggy though.  I was able to send a fax directly from my PC one time, but haven't gotten it to work again since.
[03:29] <shadowhywind> Does anyone know if there is a fix for knetworkmanger to make it work again?
[03:29] <killer_> bwayne: previously I use kooka
[03:29] <killer_> yep
[03:30] <[ka]killer> who the hell is talkign about printing
[03:30] <Kr4t05> Hey, I got logged in!
[03:30] <killer_> [ka]killer: I am
[03:30] <[ka]killer> wtf does printing have to do with my cd drive not being detected
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: whats wrong with it?
[03:30] <[ka]killer> ...
[03:30] <Kr4t05> But, something weird just happened.
[03:30] <bascule> Kr4t05: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2004-04/4107.html
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> [ka]killer: there is another killer logged on..
[03:30] <bwayne> some of us actually use a KDE environment in a professional setting.
[03:30] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:30] <[ka]killer> i didnt notice that
[03:30] <Kr4t05> Adept says there is a new distribution version available.
[03:30] <[ka]killer> im not used to being in heavily populated rooms
[03:30] <bwayne> printing becomes important.
[03:31] <rance> sorry its late, I just saw the answer, thanks
[03:31] <[ka]killer> yah... i have an hp photosmart 8100
[03:31] <killer_> bwayne: I've been using KDE as my only workstation since 2001
[03:31] <Dr_willis_> Kr4t05,  pay no attention to the bug behind the update... :)
[03:31] <[ka]killer> plug it in and it works =P
[03:31] <Kr4t05> "But you promised me a brain!"
[03:31] <shadowhywind> nosrednaekim, it just allows me to manually configure my connectsions, it doesn't see my ethernet nor my wireless connection
[03:31] <Dr_willis_> Kr4t05,  thats an OS of a Different color...
[03:31] <BluesKaj> welcome to Kubuntu-opolis [ka]killer
[03:31] <bwayne> killer_: wow.  i've been using GNU/Linux for around a year.  KDE won me over not too long ago.
[03:31]  * Dr_willis_ releases the winged lawyers!
[03:32] <[ka]killer> i want to kill this computer T_T
[03:32] <abe> hey compiz is working
[03:32] <Kr4t05> Should I follow the Yellow-Brick Distro?
[03:32] <[ka]killer> cant wait till i get the money to ubild mine
[03:32] <DaSkreech> Kr4t05: Wow you could make that rm much simpler :)
[03:32]  * Kr4t05 breaks into song.
[03:32] <abe> great
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: try this "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[03:33] <Kr4t05> Dr_willis_: So, do I ignore the "new version" or proceed?
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> ignore
[03:34] <Dr_willis_> Kr4t05,  it wont do anytyhing if you procede
[03:34] <Dr_willis_> Kr4t05,  i just tried it. :)
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> ah... I thought it crashed..
[03:34] <Dr_willis_> It tries to do stuff.. but then says  You are up to date.
[03:34] <Kr4t05> As did I.
[03:34] <Kr4t05> Nice.
[03:34] <shadowhywind> nosrednaekim, did that, everything came up with ok. With no luck
[03:34] <Kr4t05> Okay... Time to install all the stuff that I could really use.
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: no difference? huh
[03:34] <Kr4t05> And some stuff that I don't need at all.
[03:35] <shadowhywind> nosrednaekim nope, i restarted knetworkmanager and still nothing. This started happening after a bunch of kde updates couple weeks ago on fiesty
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: knetworkmangler is wonky sometimes... does you wireless work?
[03:35] <shadowhywind> my wireless does work
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: do you need WPA?
[03:35] <shadowhywind> sometimes yes
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: oh :(
[03:36] <shadowhywind> the oddpart was when i was in the middle of my gusty update, and KDE crashed when i restarted knetworkmanager was working. But after i finished gusty updates, it went back to its not working state
[03:37] <DaSkreech> rance: --with-recommends or -r
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: try purging knetoworkmanager and then reinstalling
[03:38] <shadowhywind> k, trying that now
[03:38] <rance> got it, thanks, it was in the man page
[03:39] <DaSkreech> !wpa
[03:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:39] <DaSkreech> !man
[03:39] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:39] <DaSkreech> :)
[03:40] <shadowhywind> if i purged knetworkmanager why can i still run it ?
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: you killed it and then it runns when you try to start it?
[03:41] <killer_> bwayne: I had to leave windows.. I really enjoy rebooting four or 5 times a year
[03:41] <shadowhywind> i purged it, restarted X and it loaded, so i closed it, and tried to open it from the kmenu and it was still there
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: wierd! try getting rid of networkmanager
[03:42] <killer_> bwayne: also I have upto 12 virtual desktops to organize my workflow.. windows cannot compare with the level of productivity
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: ah...remove "network-manager-kde
[03:43] <shadowhywind> doing that now
[03:43] <killer_> I have projects that I leave open for weeks on virtual desktops
[03:43] <killer_> if I have to reboot, I cry
[03:43] <shadowhywind> ok so that looks like it removed it
[03:43] <shadowhywind> and i am reinstalling it now
[03:43] <Dr_willis_> windows - the anti-producitivity
[03:44] <shadowhywind> and same thing, it still not working
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: did you do a complete removal?
[03:44] <shadowhywind> i did a purge on both of them
[03:45] <killer_> Dr_willis_: windows is for keeping a live person attached to the mouse. but computers are actually capable of doing work without a person having to babysit it
[03:45] <Dr_willis_> killer_,  blasphmy! dont let the boss's know!
[03:45] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:45]  * Dr_willis_ is exploring the possible REAL productivity boosters of compiz..
[03:46] <Dr_willis_> Inverting colors on windows.. handy.. zoom.. also handy. :)
[03:46] <Dr_willis_> Clone - NO idea what thats for. :)
[03:46] <fluffman> bah
[03:46] <killer_> Dr_willis_: I tell my boss several times aday why it is that I work so slow
[03:46] <fluffman> I thought it was just for impressing vista users
[03:46] <Kr4t05> I had to use Zoom when I broke my glasses.
[03:46] <Kr4t05> I guess that's a testament to how bad my vision is.
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis_: Stack Windows
[03:47] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. some how i cant move this window now
[03:47] <killer_> Dr_willis_: it's like "hey.. do you want the work finished? or just want me to push a cursor around all day?"
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis_: No wait it's group windows
[03:48] <Dr_willis_> well some how i broke compiz and cant click to focus windows now. :)
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis_: why are you always breaking it?lol
[03:48] <Dr_willis_> cant even click on tabs in xchat.
[03:48] <Dr_willis_> its as if mouse clicks no longer affect anything
[03:49] <Dr_willis_> Yeppers look like i may need to be restarting X to kick this in the head. :P
[03:50] <Dr_willis_> BB in a few
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:50] <ashfaq> can I run windows xp through vmware in gutstsy kdm? how ? please help
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> ashfaq: not via kdm, not
[03:50] <shane_> anyone else having trouble getting emerald themes/beryl to work in gutsy?
[03:51] <ashfaq> I mean in kubuntu gutsy
[03:51] <shane_> ashfaq - I imagine you would just install VMware, set up a virtual machine and install XP on it via a CD or whatever
[03:52] <ashfaq> I just checked the vm virtual machine in xp has installed ubuntu, similarily if kubuntu can do that I will get rid of xp
[03:52] <tekstacy> ashfaq, try VirtualBox
[03:52] <shane_> how do I get an emerald theme to actually go into effect
[03:52] <shane_> I select them but I don't see any changes
[03:52] <tekstacy> I have XP running now
[03:52] <ashfaq> But I am not able to access other folders of host in xp
[03:53] <shane_> ashfaq - I'm not sure if XP can read ext3 formatted partitions
[03:53] <ashfaq> Thats right shane
[03:53] <adz21c> it can read ext2 with a driver plugin
[03:54] <DaSkreech> ashfaq: yes it can
[03:54] <shane_> ok, nevermind then
[03:54] <ashfaq> That is why I want to install it on kubuntu keep it as default os, as now I am having dual os
[03:55] <Dr_willis_> ashfaq,  i use vmware-server to run Xp all the time. :)
[03:55] <[ifr0g]> !compiz
[03:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[03:55] <Dr_willis_> shane_,  check that !compiz site i put in notes on how to do just that. :)
[03:55] <[ifr0g]> ah, NoT :D
[03:55] <ashfaq> vmware server is available in the kubuntu package?
[03:55] <tekstacy> !aptfix
[03:55] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> ashfaq,  it used to be.. not sure if its in the gutsy comercial repos yet.
[03:56] <AndyMan1> I'd like to install Gutsy and have /home on a separate encrypted partition, is this possible?
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> ashfaq,  its not too hard to install from the vmware packages from vmware
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> AndyMan1,  i hear it is. :)
[03:56] <AndyMan1> yay!
[03:56] <ashfaq> Just help me out if it is or to get that in Kubuntu please
[03:57] <AndyMan1> any idea where to start looking? i've checked the ubuntu wiki but either can't find anything or my google-fu isn't up to snuff
[03:57] <Dr_willis_> ashfaq,  i found a link the other day that walked ya through it.. let me see...
[03:57] <Dr_willis_> http://www.ubuntuhq.com/search/node/vmware
[03:58] <Dr_willis_> thats a darn handy site :) lots of good info
[03:58] <ashfaq> Dr_willis_: this link would help? let me check it!
[03:58] <Dr_willis_> ashfaq,  its rather straight forward. The only issue is that you must use the vmware 'patch' thing to get the modules compiled properly
[03:59] <Dr_willis_> You do have a vmware-server serial #? if not you can get one for free from the vmware site. by fillingout a form.
[03:59] <shadowhywind> ok so i may have fixed knetworkmanager, but ran into another issue
[04:00] <shadowhywind> Has anyone heard of a wireless card not working in windows or linux, But after reinstalling the drivers in windows, it works in windows AND linux?
[04:00] <AndyMan1> that sounds weird enough to be true =P
[04:00] <Dr_willis_> shadowhywind,  its possible the pnp features of windows sets up the irq/dma/stuff proplery for the card
[04:00] <Dr_willis_> shadowhywind,  ive had some odd issues with sound cards in the past ages ago - similer ot that.
[04:01] <Dr_willis_> The card would NOT work - if i booted to windows first. :)
[04:01] <[ifr0g]> shadowhywind, maybe on lala land..
[04:01] <Dr_willis_> wonder if the drivers flashed the bios onthe card or somthing.
[04:01] <shadowhywind> this has been happening for the last month or so. But if i go into vista i wont have a wireless card. But after i install the drivers and switch back to linux i have them
[04:02] <Linux_Galore> shadowhywind: yes, the new driver initiated a firmware patch
[04:02] <shadowhywind> but then why wouldn't it stay?
[04:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> can somebody help me with compiz-fusion?
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> shadowhywind: because its not rom based, it loads the patch when initated
[04:03] <ksivaji> adept_updater consumes all my bandwidth i can use opera is there any way to run adept with low bandwidth
[04:03] <ksivaji> cant* use opera
[04:04] <tomer> hello
[04:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !compiz
[04:04] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[04:04] <Dr_willis_> i just decided to turn OFF compiz for now under kde. :)
[04:05] <Dr_willis_> too many little issues
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> there are some seriously goofy driver hacks out for hardware running in Windows
[04:05] <fluffman> !kde4
[04:05] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[04:05] <nickpresta> Is there any Beryl package for Gutsy?
[04:05] <fluffman> Dr_willis_: I agree
[04:05] <Dr_willis_> nickpresta,  i would say NO.. since compiz replaces it
[04:05] <fluffman> I used compiz for about 10 minutes
[04:06] <fluffman> I hate it compared to beryl
[04:06] <fluffman> :(
[04:06] <Dr_willis_> fluffman,  i like some of the fetures.. but not really that handy.
[04:06] <Kr4t05> Dr_willis_: Little issues? Care to elaborate?
[04:06] <nickpresta> Dr_willis_: I'm sorry but I feel that CF is a poor replacement. It's buggy and doesn't do what I want. Beryl, although replaced, still works the way I want
[04:07] <Dr_willis_> Kr4t05,  not really. :) go try it and start noticing them.. Lets see.. input dialog box's not taking the focus.. lokups.. having to look in compiz settings manager for what used tobe a kde setting.. so forth
[04:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: how do i completely uninstall/purge  xserver-xgl and compiz-kde
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> nickpresta: beryl is deprecated, CF is the merging of compiz and beryl
[04:07] <DaSkreech> Interesting
[04:07] <Dr_willis_> nickpresta,   i feel the whole compiz/beryl stuff is getting pushed out the gate too fast to impress people.
[04:07] <nickpresta> Linux_Galore: I am aware of that. It's still a poor replacement in my opinion
[04:07] <moparisthebest> hi, I am upgrading this computer from feisty to gutsy, and ran into a little problem half way
[04:07] <DaSkreech>  Microsoft is figuring out how to interface with your brain?
[04:07] <moparisthebest> Setting up acpid (1.0.4-5ubuntu8) ...
[04:07] <moparisthebest>  * Loading ACPI modules...                                     [ OK ]
[04:07] <moparisthebest>  * Starting ACPI services...                                          invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> nickpresta: its not a replacement, its the exact same code
[04:07] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  thers no need to.  if you dont run the compiz --replace command kde wont be using it.
[04:08] <moparisthebest> so since that won't set up, dpkg aborts
[04:08] <fluffman> AT0M1CB0MB3R: sudo apt-get remove --purge compiz kde xserver-xgl
[04:08] <Kr4t05> !paste | moparisthebest
[04:08] <ubotu> moparisthebest: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:08] <moparisthebest> any ideas on how to get it to set up correctly?
[04:08] <Dr_willis_> I found that removing compiz broke my Gnome. :()
[04:08] <moparisthebest> Kr4t05, normally you can paste <= 3 lines in IRC, is that not the case in here?
[04:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: i want to remove it so i can reinstall :]
[04:08] <nickpresta> Linux_Galore:  CF is now "updated" and "fancier" code than Beryl, since Beryl is not being worked on anymore and their enhancements have been merged back
[04:09] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  and what will reinstalling it acomplish? Not much. this is Linux - not windows.
[04:09] <nickpresta> At any rate, is there a package for Beryl in Gutsy?
[04:09] <AndyMan1> anyone know where to find how to install with an encrypted /home?
[04:09] <Dr_willis_> !beryl
[04:09] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[04:09] <Kr4t05> moparisthebest: Well, I'm not sure how that applies... I'm not a mod, but I did notice a large "chunk" of text scroll by.
[04:09] <Dr_willis_> Guess thats a no to beryl
[04:09] <michael> Kubuntu 7.10 is more good?
[04:09] <Kr4t05> I suppose it's up to whoever is incharge.
[04:09] <Dr_willis_> more gooder :)
[04:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: the config file makes it hard to get compiz working :[
[04:09] <nickpresta> gah. I dislike that decision...
[04:09] <Linux_Galore> nickpresta: fancier lol, its just merged in code from Beryl, beryl itself had issues with compiz anyway CF just attempts to iron some of them out
[04:09] <michael> and 7.04?
[04:09] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  what config file?
[04:09] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: try apt-get install that by itself ?
[04:10] <moparisthebest> it was only 3 lines, that is usually ok, but I'll check next time in case :)
[04:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> isnt that why i purge it?
[04:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: isnt that why i purge it?
[04:10] <michael> 7.04 is good?
[04:10] <fluffman> AT0M1CB0MB3R: also remove .compiz in ~/
[04:10] <moparisthebest> DaSkreech, same thing
[04:10] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  purging a package will not remove users settings/config files.. what config file are you refering to?
[04:10] <DaSkreech> AndyMan1: not install then encrypt home?
[04:10] <moparisthebest> every apt-get run it tries to install 3 packages, and all fail because they depend on acpid
[04:10] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  if you totally messed up the compiz settings remove the users settings file.
[04:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> what does purging do the,
[04:10] <Kr4t05> michael: Well, yeah... But 7.10 has a lot of newer things in it that make it better. :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis_> !apt
[04:10] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Dr_willis_: how do i do that?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: Why does it fail ?
[04:11] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R, like fluffman  said.. remove the files in the users home dir. under .compiz
[04:11] <moparisthebest> DaSkreech, I assume because of "invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.
[04:11] <moparisthebest> "
[04:11] <moparisthebest> yea, that is the reason given
[04:11] <tomer_> !compiz
[04:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[04:11]  * Linux_Galore wonders about people who complain about beta CF functionality 
[04:11] <AndyMan1> well in one way or another I'd like to both install Gutsy and have /home on an encrypted partition (at least, maybe the rest of the OS too), but i don't know where to start
[04:11] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R, if you think that will help. Youve not really stated the actual problem.
[04:12] <Dr_willis_> of course Im uing the 'flatfile' setting for compiz settings.. so not sure where it keeps them
[04:12] <martin_> hi, can anyone tell me how to access an usb-device in kubuntu?
[04:12] <Dr_willis_> I dont even see a .compiz file or direcoty
[04:12] <martin_> everytime i insert a stick or cam, just nothing happens
[04:12] <nickpresta> Dr_willis_: /etc/compizconfig, I believe
[04:12] <Linux_Galore> Should have a notice on that "although compiz-fussion works it is still considered "unstable" so unexpected bugs will happen"
[04:13] <tomer_> compiz --replace causes the title bars of my windows to disapear
[04:13] <tomer_> any ideas?
[04:13] <Dr_willis_> nickpresta,  thats sytem wide. :) for my user. i see to have a .config/compiz
[04:13] <tomer_> i then have to restart
[04:13] <Dr_willis_> tomer,  you have emerald installed?
[04:13] <tomer_> well i did this:sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde emerald
[04:13] <Dr_willis_> and is this a clean install or upgrade?
[04:14] <tomer_> it is an upgrade from 704
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> 'upgrade' seems to be a common thing in compiz issues..
[04:14] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: Is there a start action for /etc/init.d/acpid ?
[04:14] <tomer_> so no solution?
[04:15] <fluffman> I just tried to install kde 4, but when I try to log in, I just return to the login screen
[04:15] <fluffman> :(
[04:15] <moparisthebest> haha, finally found the solution on the ubuntu forums DaSkreech, realy strange too
[04:15] <martin_> i mean, shouldnt a usb stick be automatically detected?
[04:15] <fluffman> what's wrong?
[04:15] <moparisthebest> run:
[04:15] <moparisthebest> sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop
[04:15] <moparisthebest> sudo dpkg --configure acpid
[04:15] <moparisthebest> and it works fine after that
[04:15] <Dr_willis_> tomer_,  i always do a clean install.. so cant help ya there. I followed the !compiz guide and it works.
[04:15] <moparisthebest> thanks :)
[04:16] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: Thats' what I was going to suggest :)
[04:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i run compiz at startup?
[04:16] <tomer_> whats the easiest way to restart X on the machine
[04:16] <tomer_> without rebooting
[04:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> and run emerald?
[04:16] <moparisthebest> ok, here is another question, this install was originally xubuntu, and I installed kubuntu-desktop, is there any way to remove all the xubuntu stuff?
[04:16] <fluffman> tomer_: logout, then alt+e
[04:16] <Dr_willis_> AT0M1CB0MB3R,  IF 'compiz --replace' works.
[04:16] <Kr4t05> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Go find a deb for fusion-icon.
[04:17] <DaSkreech> tomer_: Easy or fast?
[04:17] <Dr_willis_> you can make a auto start entry for it in the .kde/Autostart dir
[04:17] <Dr_willis_> !find autostart
[04:17] <ubotu> Found: kcontrol-autostart, mythbuntu-live-autostart
[04:17] <Dr_willis_> !info kcontrol-autostart
[04:17] <ubotu> kcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 216 kB
[04:18] <Dr_willis_> I would just make an icon ont he desktop that runs 'compiz --replace' and try it for a few days
[04:18] <DaSkreech> http://www.newscientist.com/blog/invention/2007/10/microsoft-mind-reading.html
[04:18] <fluffman> moparisthebest: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:19] <moparisthebest> perfect, much appreciated fluffman :)
[04:19] <fluffman> your welcom
[04:19] <fluffman> e
[04:19] <DaSkreech> !purekde
[04:19] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[04:20] <hexstar_> test
[04:20] <Dr_willis_> !puregnome
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Dr_willis_> :)
[04:20] <Dr_willis_> Take that gnome!
[04:20] <hexstar_> anyone else notice this issue: http://pastebin.ca/744134 ??
[04:20] <fluffman> lol
[04:20] <hexstar_> how can I fix that issue?
[04:21] <Dr_willis_> looks like some server issues to me hexstar_  might want to change servers in the sources.list file
[04:21] <moparisthebest> I did run into that issue hexstar_
[04:21] <moparisthebest> it was a GPG issue for me
[04:21] <John117> Hey guy!   how is it going?
[04:21] <hexstar_> ok
[04:21] <moparisthebest> I had to put a default file there to fix it
[04:22] <hexstar_> also, why does this happen?
[04:22] <hexstar_> sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade
[04:22] <hexstar_> E: Sense dist is not understood, try true or false.
[04:22] <moparisthebest> I have it bookmarked on another computer, it took me forever to find it, I'll see what I can do here
[04:22] <Dr_willis_> hexstar_,  try without the --
[04:22] <John117> I"m having a little trouble getting some of the kinks worked out of Compiz Fusion on Gutsy.  Does anybody have a few minutes and alot of patience?
[04:23] <John117> dr_willis_ I got it installed, btw.
[04:23] <hexstar_> Dr_willis ah thanks
[04:23] <moparisthebest> hexstar_, that pastebin site you linked me to, does it crash your firefox? :S
[04:23] <Dr_willis_> :)
[04:23] <hexstar_> moparisthebest: no... :-/
[04:23] <Dr_willis_> moparisthebest,  heh heh crashing pastebin. :)
[04:23] <John117> dr_willis_ thank you for your help..  I"m just trying to get it to RUN and WORK. lol
[04:23] <Dr_willis_> dident crash me either.
[04:23] <moparisthebest> yea, its crashing firefox, but opened in konqueror :/
[04:23] <Dr_willis_> John117,  heck - i cant even remebr what you were working on.
[04:23] <moparisthebest> strange, probably the second time Ive had firefox crash
[04:23] <moparisthebest> and it does it every time :/
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> moparisthebest,  blame compiz
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> :)
[04:24] <moparisthebest> If I wasn't using pure kde I would Dr_willis :P
[04:24] <Kr4t05> Okay... Time to restart X.
[04:24] <John117> dr_willis_ sorry. :)   I finally got compiz fusion installed on Gutsy.  The install wen't fine.   I got no errors when i tried to start it, but i don't have wobbly windows or a desktop cube :(
[04:24] <hexstar_> huh, there dosn't seem to be that much new: http://pastebin.ca/744140
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> moparisthebest,  you mean the   http://pastebin.ca/744134  site? its not even using anything special that i can see. No flash or anything
[04:25] <moparisthebest> that is the one
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> JohanSalim,  #*@ the cube. :)
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> oops wrong nick. :)
[04:25] <moparisthebest> I am upgrading a lot of packages now though, could be the problem I guess
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> John117,  @*@8 the cube. :)  use 'compiz --replace' to get compiz started
[04:25] <John117> dr_willis_ i know how you feel about the cube. :)   I'm just trying to learn :)
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> Now the zoom - is a handy feature
[04:25] <hexstar_> damn..security.ubuntu.com is slow...
[04:26] <moparisthebest> John117, the cube is great for impressing windows users :)
[04:26] <John117> dr_willis_ i used that command.  but the window wobble and certain other offects don't work.
[04:26] <moparisthebest> thats all I ever used beryl for :P
[04:26] <Dr_willis_> did the title bars change their look?
[04:26] <hexstar_> I'm getting less then 1kb/s!!!
[04:26] <Dr_willis_> if so run ccsm and start twiddling with the settings
[04:26] <John117> dr_willis_ how do i verify that compiz IS running, and how do i use the zoom?     Not really.
[04:26] <hexstar_> I'm not sure why the kubuntu team finds it acceptable to use servers on dialup connections but whatever
[04:26] <Dr_willis_> John117,  does the terminal say anything. the one ya ran compiz --replace in.
[04:27] <Dr_willis_> John117,  when i use compiz --replace the screne flashes black, then the titlebars all change to the compiz/emerald them i got selected
[04:27] <hexstar_> does anyone else here get slow speeds with security.ubuntu.com when using apt-get?
[04:28] <UnluckyMike> does kubuntu use /etc/network/interfaces the same as ubuntu
[04:28] <Toma-> yes
[04:28] <John117> dr_willis_ AHA!  glx not present!
[04:28] <Dr_willis_> run ccsm, check the  'ehnahced zoom desktop' then hold down the windows key and scroll the mouse wheel. :)
[04:28] <tomer> anyone got the 3d desktop to work after a 704 to 710 upgrade???
[04:28] <Dr_willis_> John117,  you got an nvidia card?
[04:28] <John117> dr_willis_ nope..  GD ati
[04:28] <tomer> freaking giving me problems
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> John117,  good luck to you then...
[04:29] <hexstar_> 64 bytes from auckland.canonical.com (91.189.88.37): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=171 ms <_<
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> you did install the ati drivers with the restricted-manager tool?
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> !info restricted-manager
[04:29] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB
[04:29] <John117> dr_willis_ i know, right!   Is there something i can read about that?      Nope..
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> is there a kde front end to that?
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> John117,  i always use that tool :)
[04:30] <John117> dr_williss_ how do i do it?
[04:30] <Dr_willis_> John117,  install that tool.. run it.. click the boxs, restart X. Done. :)
[04:30] <hexstar_> aight well my question was answered and that is what I cam here for so I'm gonna go now, thanks for the help guys...kubuntu is a great free product...keep it up! :)
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> if you are lucky
[04:31]  * Dr_willis_ sends hexstar_  a bill.
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> :P
[04:31] <John117> dr_willis_ how do i run the restricted driver manager?
[04:32] <Dr_willis_> try 'rest<Tab key>'
[04:32] <Dr_willis_> one of the MORe logicially named tools :)
[04:32] <fluffman> John117: K menu > system > advanced
[04:32] <Dr_willis_> its faster to use the shell then serach the menus. :)
[04:33] <Dr_willis_> ack katpult aint working
[04:33] <fluffman> * I mean system settings, not system
[04:33] <michael> willis kubuntu 7.04 is good?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis_: Run for the hills!
[04:35] <fluffman> I just installed KDE4, but when I try to log into it, I return to the login screen
[04:35] <fluffman> anybody know what's going on there?
[04:37] <moparisthebest> !purekde
[04:37] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[04:37] <michael> !spanish
[04:37] <fluffman> D:
[04:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:38] <Dr_willis_> yep - i think compiz.. seriously needs a bit more work.... :)
[04:39] <fluffman> Dr_willis_: are you running kde 4 per chance?
[04:39] <Dr_willis_> nope
[04:39] <fluffman> D:
[04:39] <Dr_willis_> I got enough beta stuff on here now. :)
[04:39] <hydrogen> compiz needs to just die.
[04:39] <fluffman> I guess I'll just have to wait
[04:39] <hydrogen> fluffman: kde4 beta is really not worth trying
[04:40] <Dr_willis_> rocksndiamonds - Arcade style game --- Woo hoo..one of the greatest games of all time! is in the  repos now!
[04:40]  * DaSkreech smacks hydrogen
[04:40] <Dr_willis_> :)
[04:40] <hydrogen> DaSkreech: its still utterly unprepared, and is really painful on the eyes
[04:40] <hydrogen> it's /not/ something you want people to try
[04:40] <fluffman> oh
[04:40] <hydrogen> its something you want to cry in a corner over
[04:40] <mboso> If I am using ubuntu, what is the best way to get the latest amarok package? what repo should I use?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> hydrogen: it IS something we want people to betatest
[04:41] <hydrogen> DaSkreech: betatesting now is going to make people quit and install gnome
[04:41] <DaSkreech> mboso: What version of Ubuntu ?
[04:41] <dystopianray> mboso: install gutsy and you have the latest
[04:41] <hydrogen> its in feisty-backports as well
[04:41] <dystopianray> mboso: or if you're on feisty, get the latest amarok from feisty-backports
[04:41] <hydrogen> there is absolutely no need to install gutsy
[04:41] <mboso> dystopianray: Ok cool. was going to upgrade to gutsy in a few minutes.
[04:41] <fluffman> don't worry hydrogen, I'm NOT switching to gnome
[04:41] <DaSkreech> hydrogen: So we should take down the repos?
[04:41] <mboso> thought i had to add a kubuntu repo or something
[04:41] <mboso> nice
[04:41] <mboso> thanks
[04:41] <MsGeek> Hi folks.
[04:41] <dystopianray> mboso: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repos
[04:41] <hydrogen> DaSkreech: no, we should just be quiet about them and hope no one notices
[04:42] <Dr_willis_> lets burn all the computers! :0
[04:42] <dystopianray> what's wrong with the repos?
[04:42] <MsGeek> I get a whole lot of nothing when I try to run the live CD on my ThinkPad 600x
[04:42] <DaSkreech> and if they ask tell them they don't exist ?
[04:42] <hydrogen> I suppose you can try some kde4 apps.. but make sure you a) arn't using oxygen and b) don't try to log into the desktop
[04:42] <fluffman> MsGeek: if that's the case, then *buntu probably isn't for you on that computer
[04:42] <shadowhywind> So i did find out the issue with knetworkmanger, its has something to do with my /etc/network/interfaces file. If i delete the file everything works
[04:43] <MsGeek> That it?
[04:43] <MsGeek> No ideas for kicking it over?
[04:43] <dystopianray> shadowhywind: what issue were you having?
[04:43] <MsGeek> I have Dapper Drake running on it RIGHT NOW.
[04:43] <MsGeek> Dapper Drake is happy on here.
[04:43] <shadowhywind> dystopianray knetworkmanager was stuck on manual configuation, and didn't see my wired or wireless connection
[04:44] <MsGeek> However, I would like to have something a tad more up-to-date.
[04:44] <MsGeek> I even used these switches at the boot line:
[04:44] <fluffman> MsGeek: try booting the live cd in safe graphics mode
[04:44] <MsGeek> acpi=off pci=noacpi pnpbios=off vga=0x317
[04:44] <DaSkreech> MsGeek: try turning off acpi
[04:45] <MsGeek> Safe graphics mode = no joy.
[04:45] <fluffman> hydrogen: how would I obtain kde4 apps without the kde4 desktop?
[04:46] <MsGeek> If there is some other magick word I could add at the boot line do clue me in.
[04:46] <hydrogen> fluffman: just install the kdelibs package and the kde(games|pim|sdk|whatever) package
[04:46] <hydrogen> and then run the commands from within kde3
[04:46] <MsGeek> Maybe I'll just put Debian Testing on here.
[04:46] <fluffman> ok :)
[04:46] <MsGeek> :P
[04:46] <Dr_willis_> PuppyLinux :)
[04:46] <Dr_willis_> My fave
[04:47] <Dr_willis_> well night all
[04:47] <John117> Hey guys.. hwo do i get to the restricted devices?
[04:47] <fluffman> John117: K Menu > system settings > advanced tab
[04:47] <fluffman> ?
[04:48] <mohamed> I just installed Kubuntu over the new unbuntu but I'm not able to show back ground or any thing
[04:49] <mohamed> zzzzzzzzzzz
[04:52] <tomer> i still think windows xp is superior...
[04:53] <fluffman> (23:52:43) tomer: i still think windows xp is superior...
[04:53] <fluffman> to what?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Yeah Ubuntu upgrades seem much less stable
[04:53] <Thug-life> tomer: thinking windows xp is superior is off-topic on freenode. Please view the rules at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Thug-life: no it's not
[04:53] <Thug-life> I know
[04:53] <Thug-life> lolol
[04:53] <DaSkreech> mohamed: go again?
[04:54] <mboso> when I upgraded from edgy to fiesty I got a kernel panic because of the UUID label from grub. What do I need to do to get my kernel to boot using UUID?
[04:55] <moparisthebest> does anyone happen to know if repairing a windows XP install will wipe out grub? Im running a dual boot with 1 hd
[04:55] <Gun_Smoke> How/where do I add startup scripts.. ie.  superkaramba
[04:55] <dystopianray> moparisthebest: backup your mbr and restore after the repair
[04:55] <moparisthebest> any easy way to do that dystopianray ?
[04:56] <dystopianray> moparisthebest: (assuming sda is your drive) sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr_backup count=1 bs=512b
[04:56] <DaSkreech> !uuid
[04:56] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:57] <DaSkreech> mboso: ^^^
[04:57] <DaSkreech> !autostart | Gun_Smoke
[04:57] <ubotu> Gun_Smoke: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[04:58] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: ty
[04:58] <mohamed> i just installed kubuntu over ubuntu and it looks like it's not functioning does any body know why?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> mohamed,  clarify that statement.. err.. you DID select 'kde' from the login screen?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> mohamed: What is not functioning
[04:59] <mohamed> the backgorund and the other themes that should be there, it still give me the ubuntu interface
[05:00] <vbgunz> anyone know what this means with virtualbox: "VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv start' as root."?
[05:00] <vbgunz> I do not have the /etc/init.d/virtualbox file :(
[05:00] <vbgunz> and I did install the virtualbox-ose-modules package
[05:00] <AmyRose> vbgunz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox
[05:00] <AmyRose> Oh
[05:00] <AmyRose> You're using OSE?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> mohamed,  you are refering to the boot/splash stuff. does the GDM/KDM login have a 'kde session' in its menu? if so and it works. then its working. ;) you can customize the splash stuff
[05:01] <vbgunz> well, yeah, I thought I give it a try
[05:01] <mboso> DaSkreech: The thing is, It has the right UUID volume lable. but it still kernel panics. when i switch from root=UUID=xxxxx...  to root=/dev/sda1 it works
[05:01] <vbgunz> I had virtualbox before but never the ose version
[05:01] <mboso> DaSkreech: shouldn't it work either way?
[05:01] <AmyRose> vbgunz: Oh, I know nothing about OSE
[05:01] <DaSkreech> mboso: Well if you have a UUID in /etc/fstab then yeah
[05:04] <mboso> DaSkreech: yeah, that's what i'm trying to figure out. doesn't make sense.
[05:05] <bbeck_> I've noticed two problems so far with the running of kwin-composite.  The kickers is translucent, and I don't see any way to make ti opaque, and the shadows underneath the covers when dragging music to the playlist in Amarok is generally the wrong size.  Has anyone else noted these problems?
[05:06] <jim> anyone know how to run Base (Open Office Database ) , I can't find it in the menu?
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I got it in my menus.
[05:06] <fluffman> jim: click on K Menu, then right click on "office"
[05:07] <fluffman> then click "edit menu"
[05:07] <vbgunz> damn, I think I got it but have to log out :/
[05:07] <John117> Anybody want to help me see if i can get GXL up and running on this ati laptop?
[05:07] <fluffman> then add a new entry
[05:08] <Dr_willis> John117,  what video that thing got anyway?
[05:08] <fluffman> the command is ooffice -base %YOU
[05:08] <John117> Dr_willis thought you left.   :)   It has an Xpress 200
[05:08] <fluffman> *YOU = U
[05:08] <fluffman> dang pidgin
[05:08] <John117> dr_willis i got the restricted drivers loaded.
[05:08] <jim> sorry I don't see office when I right click kmenu. , thanks fluffman I'll try the command line
[05:09] <Dr_willis> John117,  err... if you had mentioned that earlier - i would of told ya not to bother. :) My laptop has x200m - and it cant handle the compiz stuff.
[05:09] <fluffman> no jim
[05:09] <fluffman> click k menu
[05:09] <John117> dr_willis LOL thank you anyway man.. i appreciate it.
[05:09] <fluffman> then right click on the "office" listing
[05:09] <fluffman> then click "edit"
[05:09] <Dr_willis> John117,  it MIGHT work.. but thats a very low end video card. :)
[05:11] <John117> dr_willis I at least got the wobbly windows to work on Ubuntu.   ONCE.. LOL
[05:11] <dystopianray> is it possible to adjust the increment that kmilo uses to increment/decrement the volume?
[05:11] <Les_Caesars> How do I change the size of my icons on the desktop?
[05:13] <jim> fluffman: when I do that I still don't see Base ??
[05:13] <dystopianray> Les_Caesars: system settings -> appearance -> icons
[05:13] <DaSkreech> jim: is it installed?
[05:14] <jim> I didn't uninstall it, do you know the package name for Base
[05:14] <DaSkreech> oobase
[05:14] <DaSkreech> jim: type that at the command line
[05:15] <acrabuni> hay alguna española aqui
[05:15] <DaSkreech> !es
[05:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[05:16] <John117> dr_willis well anyway.. I got the restricted drivers to LOAD..  but i'm still told "no glx" then it falls back to Metacity and there is not metacity.. so.....
[05:17] <jim> DaSkreech, thanks, look like it isn't installed package name is openoffice.org-base
[05:17] <Dr_willis> John117,  you might want to research the 'glx' and 'fglrx' driver  stuff first. :)
[05:17] <fluffman> jim: now I'm having the same trouble
[05:17] <fluffman> I can't get it to work either
[05:17] <fluffman> :/
[05:18] <DaSkreech> jim: Yeah just wanted to test if it was installed :)
[05:18] <John117> dr_willis will do.    You're mighty helpful. :) thanks again
[05:19] <jim> I guess it doesn't install by default, downloading it now, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-base
[05:21] <frank23> logout is prevented by a program I have running (there is a popup when I try to logout) How can I force the logout without shutting that program down manualy every time?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> what program is this?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> just alt-ctrl-backspace :) kick X in the head.. heh
[05:21] <frank23> Dr_willis: mythfrontend I have running
[05:22] <Dr_willis> never noticed it not letting me logout.. lets try it. :)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> brb
[05:23] <frank23> Dr_willis: ok thanks. it runs on DISPLAY 0.1 for me I don't know if it makes a difference
[05:24] <Insanity^> Is there anyone in here who could help me with an install issue?
[05:24] <frank23> Insanity^: just ask someone might be able to help
[05:25] <AmyRose> !ask | Insanity^
[05:25] <ubotu> Insanity^: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> frank23,  i got mythfrontend on the 'left' side monitor. :) and normal desktop here. (using twinview) it lets me logout just fine
[05:26] <Dr_willis> frank23,  you are using 'kdm' to   log in with?
[05:26] <Insanity^> I'm installing Kubuntu 7.10 and I can boot the CD, but when I choose to start the Live CD my screen just goes blank.
[05:26] <frank23> Dr_willis: yes
[05:27] <fluffman> Insanity^: that's normal for many computers
[05:27] <fluffman> wait for kubuntu to finish booting
[05:27] <fluffman> it may take up to 5 or 10 minutes
[05:27] <fluffman> to see the progress, press ctrl+alt+f1
[05:27] <AmyRose> Insanity^: If you're really paranoid, you can do a CD defect check too
[05:28] <Insanity^> AmyRose, the md5 checks out:D
[05:28] <Insanity^> Would my video card matter?
[05:28] <AmyRose> ok
[05:28] <Insanity^> I run a newer nVidia card.
[05:28] <fluffman> ah
[05:28] <fluffman> you don't have the drivers yet
[05:28] <fluffman> install, then it should work
[05:28] <Insanity^> That's the thing, I can't install.
[05:28] <AmyRose> Insanity^: If you can't get the normal one working, try the Alternate CD
[05:28] <Insanity^> Every time I try to install, it just hangs at a black screen.
[05:29] <fluffman> are you sure it's hanging?
[05:29] <AmyRose> Insanity^: The Alternate CD does it in text mode
[05:29] <Insanity^> I'm pretty sure. I left it for about 10 minutes.
[05:29] <fluffman> oh
[05:29] <fluffman> press ctrl+alt+f1 and see where it's hangin at
[05:29] <fluffman> or if it is at all
[05:30] <Insanity^> Alright. I'm going to download the alternate first, and try that.
[05:30] <Insanity^> What's the text command to install it?
[05:30] <AmyRose> Insanity^: Nothing
[05:30] <Insanity^> Oh. It's just a text-based version instead of a GUI?
[05:30] <AmyRose> Insanity^: Just do the same thing as with the normal CD, but it will take you to a text mode installer
[05:31] <AmyRose> Insanity^: The end result is the same: a KDE desktop
[05:31] <Insanity^> Oh, I realize that.
[05:31] <AmyRose> It just works with more video hardware
[05:31] <fluffman> Insanity^: seriously, try ctrl + alt + f1 first to see if you computer is even trying to read the CD
[05:31] <Insanity^> I'm reasonably computer literate, Linux just stumps me.
[05:31] <Insanity^> Alright.
[05:31] <fluffman> make sure it's the graphics card
[05:31] <Insanity^> I'll go try that now.
[05:31] <Insanity^> Berb
[05:31] <AmyRose> Insanity^: Yeah, it does that to everybody at first
[05:31] <AmyRose> ;)
[05:31] <Insanity^> Thanks, by the way.
[05:31] <AmyRose> you're welcome, Insanity^
[05:31] <Insanity^> I've always loved the Linux community ;)
[05:31] <Les_Caesars> I just installed kubuntu on an ubuntu installation. It uses metacity for the window decorations on compiz, which I like. But I don't like the color. Where do I change that?
[05:31] <AmyRose> Insanity^: So do I. :)
[05:32] <Insanity^> In case I do get it working, what's a good Linux compatible IRC client?
[05:32] <[[Charlie]]> Kay ooh boo too.
[05:32] <Insanity^> Because I'm a bit of an IRC addict.
[05:32] <AmyRose> Insanity^: Konversation
[05:32] <Dr_willis> uses metacity for window decoration? Hmm.. compiz replaces metacity i thouight.
[05:32] <[[Charlie]]> !offtopic | [[Charlie]]
[05:32] <fluffman> I use pidgin
[05:32] <fluffman> <.<
[05:32] <[[Charlie]]> I use Xchat
[05:32] <Dr_willis> You can set up emerald and emerald thenmes to change things, L(
[05:32] <Insanity^> Heh.
[05:32] <AmyRose> Insanity^: Kubuntu comes with Konversation :)
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[05:32] <jim> I like xchat too.
[05:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[05:32] <Insanity^> Alright, thanks for the advice. Be abck soon hopefully.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> has details on emerald :)
[05:34] <VelvetHog> Problem: This is a fresh install. The very first I tried to do is install the restricted nvidia driver via the handy wizard. I restart and get a black screen ("frequency out of range") instead of the graphical Kubuntu logon screen. I ran 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to set my driver back to nv and noticed that it IS detecting my graphics card and monitor correctly.
[05:34] <VelvetHog> I searched around and found a few people experiencing the same problem, but no solution
[05:35] <fluffman> VelvetHog: do you know your refresh rate?
[05:35] <fluffman> maybe it's on your monitor
[05:36] <CPrgmSwR2> Does anyone know how distrowatch rates distros because PCLinuxOS is on top which seems odd?
[05:36] <Les_Caesars> I just installed Kickoff, and it doesn't show any recent applications
[05:36] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: still around?
[05:36] <fluffman> if you do, reinstall the nvidia driver, then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to set the refresh rate manually
[05:36] <Gun_Smoke> or anyone point me in the right direction of kcontrol-startup
[05:36] <VelvetHog> Does that matter for LCDs?
[05:37] <fluffman> Insanity^: what's the verdict?
[05:37] <Lam_> how do i get adept to lock a package to a specifically installed version so that it doesn't attempt to check for upgrades on it?
[05:37] <fluffman> VelvetHog: yes
[05:37] <Les_Caesars> CPrgmSwR2: I think it's by clicks.
[05:37] <fluffman> I had problem like that once
[05:37] <Insanity^> (fluffman): It didn't work. It didn't display anything
[05:37] <Les_Caesars> CPrgmSwR2: perhaps PCLinuxOSs fans are very obsessed
[05:37] <fluffman> sounds like a CD problem, Insanity^
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Insanity^: welcome to Kubuntu!
[05:38] <frank23> CPrgmSwR2: I think its just clicks at distrowatch
[05:38] <CPrgmSwR2> okay thnx
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Les_Caesars: Emerald?
[05:38] <Insanity^> fluffman, i've burned like 3 dvds. I've burned Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and the alternate version of Kubuntu
[05:38] <Insanity^> fluffman, all the md5s checked out. they all hang at the same point.
[05:38] <LEE986321> Yahoo ya...gots the restircted drivers to work yahoo yippeee yahoo yay
[05:38] <Insanity^> I think it's a video problem.
[05:38] <fluffman> dvd's?
[05:38] <Insanity^> dvds. and the CD version of Kubuntu
[05:38] <fluffman> what's on the screen when it hangs?
[05:38] <Insanity^> nada.
[05:39] <blauzahl> if i'm trying to upgrade, am i supposed to still have older version lines in my apt.sources file? ie dusty or whatever?
[05:39] <CPrgmSwR2> Insanity^: did you install kubuntu through the textmode installation?
[05:39] <Insanity^> there's a cursor in the top left for about 3 seconds, then nothing. it's just black.
[05:39] <fluffman> ctrl alt f1 should show SOMETHING that isn't loading right
[05:39] <Insanity^> CPrgmSwR2, I'm trying that as soon as it finishes
[05:39] <CPrgmSwR2> Insanity^: how old is your computer?
[05:39] <Insanity^> fluffman, i think it's a display error.
[05:39] <fluffman> Insanity^: go ahead and try the text I guess
[05:39] <Insanity^> CPrgmSwR2, my computer is less than 6 months old.
[05:40] <CPrgmSwR2> what graphics card?
[05:40]  * LEE986321 does happy celtic joy full dance
[05:40] <xehnida> Kopete always claims my passwd is wrong despite is correct
[05:40] <LEE986321> ati x300
[05:40] <Insanity^> nvidia 8800 gts
[05:40] <LEE986321> had to go into vessa mode
[05:40] <Insanity^> I just have to wait for the text based to finish downloading.
[05:40] <LEE986321> eh vesa mode
[05:40] <blauzahl> like if i'm trying to go from feisty to gutsy?
[05:40] <CPrgmSwR2> Insanity^: its on the dvd
[05:40] <Insanity^> Oh?
[05:40] <Insanity^> I'll go try that then
[05:40] <Insanity^> Thanks
[05:41] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: page clicks
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Yeah
[05:41] <VelvetHog> Okay, it looks like 75hz is the max refresh rate (the monitor is a Viewsonic VX2025wm)
[05:41] <AmyRose> LEE986321: Ouch, VESA is slow...
[05:42] <fluffman> VelvetHog: try 60
[05:42] <fluffman> then 75
[05:42] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: I seem to be compleatly lost with kcontrol-autostart..
[05:42] <Gun_Smoke> I have the package...
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: What are you doing with that?
[05:42] <LEE986321> i know but... its a bug in thsystem
[05:43] <Les_Caesars> ugh! this is so annoying. My desktop cube has three sides. How do I change it?
[05:43] <LEE986321> AmyRose its either taht or black screen
[05:44] <fluffman> Les_Caesars: there's a cube setting that lets you change the horizontal desktop value from 3 to 4
[05:44] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: Well I would like to set up superkaramba, and have it start upon login.
[05:44] <LEE986321> AmyRose thres a bug un the 64  bit system that dissalows the ati drivers in any way shape or format to run
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: You have the package? A .deb?
[05:44] <VelvetHog> I'm looking through /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I see this: HorizSync 30-82, and VertRefresh 50-75
[05:44] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: The way I would have gDesklets launch.
[05:44] <Les_Caesars> thanks fluffman
[05:45] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: Yes, and installed.
[05:45] <RabidDog_> Is KvIRC used for webcam configurations?
[05:45] <Gun_Smoke> via adpet
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: And it doesn't show up on Kcontrol ?
[05:45] <LEE986321> they really need to fix it as it is with 64 bits usining the ati card
[05:47] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: I have been looking in the wrong place for ~50min now.. It's there.. Thanks.  I think I need some sleep.
[05:47] <AmyRose> LEE986321: Then I'm glad I have a 32-bit CPU with NVidia
[05:48] <LEE986321> AmyRose yeah, i really had no choice in the matter this time around
[05:48] <AmyRose> LEE986321: Oh, because AMD owns ATI?:
[05:48] <RabidDog_> Are there any other good (non command line) chat clients besides Konversation for Kbuntu?
[05:48] <AmyRose> I mean pwns :P
[05:48] <LEE986321> AmyRose i am guessing so
[05:49] <fluffman> bai...need 2 sleep
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Sorry thought the name might tip you off
[05:49] <n00bcakes> KVirc
[05:50] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: Well it should have.. But I'm new to kde.  Thanks though.
[05:50] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: and if you google kcontrol-autostart you get pretty much bug tracking info only..
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Sorry about the misunderstanding
[05:50] <RabidDog_> noobcakes, is that meant for use with a webcam?
[05:50] <Gun_Smoke> np
[05:52] <LEE986321> AmyRose i wonder why th e   vessa bug  and why they havnt corrected the kernal?
[05:53] <n00bcakes> no, its an irc client
[05:53] <LEE986321> AmyRose one would think that the up date tey had that would have been taken care of
[05:53] <n00bcakes> if you want general purpose chat client w/ webcam check out Kopete
[05:54] <CPrgmSwR2> Konversation rocks as an irc client
[05:54] <AmyRose> LEE986321: ?
[05:54] <RabidDog_> noobcakes: Thank you!  Just wanted a normal chat client alternative to Konversation.
[05:54] <AmyRose> stevebb: Are you George or Steve? O_o
[05:55] <stevebb> neither... how did you get those?  I was trying to get a nick and did those?
[05:55] <LEE986321> AmyRose itd ben like this in fiesty as well as gutsy
[05:56] <stevebb> I've got a problem that I talk about in the kubuntuforum but no help seems to be forthcoming
[05:56] <charlie5> after upgrading yesterday, and applying a fresh set of updates this morning, adept-manager is saying that 'a new distribution version is available', and offering a button to do the 'version upgrade' ... is this normal ?
[05:56] <AmyRose> stevebb: Oh, that's nice. :P
[05:56] <Dr_willis> charlie5,  its a known bugglet.. ignore it. :)
[05:56] <AmyRose> LEE986321: Sorry, but you're confusing me
[05:57] <stevebb> in my adept-manager manage repositories, I am not getting the buttons, rather a list of my sources.list like I have Edgy version installed
[05:57] <stevebb> all versions of the software including dependencies are corrct but I am getting this behavior and can't upgrade to Gutsy unless I use the DVD
[05:57] <LEE986321> sorry 2 chats , one game and this......I have ried Ubuntu 64 bit fiesty...same thing black screen of death, then I tried gutsy with the same result
[05:57] <charlie5> Dr_willis: ah, thanks :) ... kubu is going fine after the upgrade ... best of all my usb hard drive is behaving now (not dismounting itself every 5 mins)
[05:58] <LEE986321> AmyRose then some sent me a thing aobu tthe bug.
[05:58] <DaSkreech> stevebb: install software-properties-kde
[05:58] <stevebb> what is that?
[05:58] <stevebb> DaSkreech: what is that?
[05:58] <AmyRose> stevebb: It's a package
[05:59] <stevebb> right.. what does it do?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> stevebb: to get the right view of repos in adept
[06:00] <Roey> hey all
[06:00] <Roey> so question about Goatse Gibbon
[06:01]  * DaSkreech blinks
[06:01] <Roey> - has the xresprobe problem fixed yet?
[06:01] <Roey> *been fixed yet
[06:01] <Les_Caesars> lol @ Roey
[06:01] <Roey> or will it be fixed in Horny Hardon?
[06:01] <stevebb> DaSkreech: ah, cool very cool... thank you... that might have done the trick... I'm installing it now...
[06:01] <Roey> Les_Caesars:   %-)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> stevebb: Welcome
[06:02] <stevebb> DaSkreech: thanks much... that seems to have done it... now, all I have to do is just set recommended updates and then I should be able to upgrade to gutsy?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> and propsed I think
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Umm
[06:02] <DaSkreech> read the upgrade notes :)
[06:03] <stevebb> Right... thanks again...
[06:05] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I just updated to Gutsy (more or less; had to start it and stop it a couple of times) and every time I start up my "udevd" is using all of the CPU.  Any ideas as to why this is happening?
[06:07] <dcosson> anyone had any issues with external USB hard drives not automounting since updating to gutsy?
[06:07] <LEE986321> eh guys i have a strange occurence
[06:08] <stevebb> DaSkreech: I do not see a button for "Proposed updates" and I am not getting the upgrade wizard.
[06:08] <DaSkreech> stevebb:
[06:08] <DaSkreech> are you up to date /
[06:08] <DaSkreech> ?
[06:08] <LEE986321> guys I downloaded xine ok..its not in the multi media but when I execute it a player pops up
[06:08] <stevebb> DaSkreech: yes...
[06:09] <the-erm> LEE986321: vertical lines?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> stevebb: and following http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade ?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Ertain: How long does it do that?
[06:09] <LEE986321> eh let me re phrase that
[06:10] <LEE986321> there is no xine in  my icon thing but I can execute it in the black box
[06:10] <Dr_willis> some times the menus dont get updated as you install things
[06:10] <Ertain> DaSkreech: Last night it did it for a long time.  Had to kill "udevd".
[06:10] <LEE986321> the-erm none taht I cna see
[06:10] <Dr_willis> they will once ya log out/back in
[06:11] <stevebb> DaSkreech: I have that page open right now and I don't see the Proposed updates repository... also I don't understand what this page means by "Version upgrade" button?  I don'' see that either
[06:11] <DaSkreech> stevebb: try close adept and then reopen it  and fetch updates
[06:12] <DaSkreech> stevebb: If that doesn't work then alt=F2 -> adept_manager --version-upgrade
[06:12] <stevebb> DaSkreech: ok...  I think I did just that, but I'll do it again to make sure... thanks for the help
[06:12] <LEE986321> I get this  folowing line
[06:13] <LEE986321> This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.5. (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team. AFD changed from -2 to -1
[06:13] <Gun_Smoke> Man I couldn't stand Kopote...
[06:14] <Les_Caesars> how do I configure metacity? The blue on the window decorations is REALLY annoying me
[06:14] <Les_Caesars> (using compiz)
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  use emerald and the emerald theme manager tool
[06:15] <Dr_willis> I dont think you are using 'metacity' technicially
[06:15] <Dr_willis> the !compiz factoid gives info on setting up emerald and the emerald-theme-manager
[06:16] <trixon> Hi, Im running 7.10 installed from a cd. I just installed todays updates and now Im offered a version upgrade to UBUNTU, anyone knows whats going on?
[06:16] <Gun_Smoke> trixon: Through Adapt?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> trixon,  its a bug. ignore it
[06:16] <trixon> yes
[06:17] <DaSkreech> trixon: what's the concern?
[06:17] <Gun_Smoke> yeah got that too..
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Oh Ubuntu ?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> instead of Kubuntu ?
[06:17] <trixon> DaSkreech> the concers is that I dont want UBUNTU, and there cant be any version upgrade
[06:17] <Gun_Smoke> DaSkreech: On Kubuntu
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Yeah they live on the same servers and Kubuntu is a second class citizen :)
[06:18] <trixon> Ok, I'll ignore that one
[06:18] <DaSkreech>  the servers can' distinguish between kubuntu and ubuntu
[06:18] <Gun_Smoke> I have a full upgrade available
[06:18] <posingaspopular> trixon: def. an ignorable bug
[06:18] <stevebb> DaSkreech: ok... more problems... running it as my limited user means that the upgrade doesn't execute, right?  alt-F2 runs it in the context of the limited user logged on, and I should not have to log on as root to KDE to do this, no?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Just Feisty and gutsy
[06:18] <DaSkreech> So they just assume everyone is looking for the ubuntu announcement
[06:18] <DaSkreech>  it will only give you KDE packages if you only ask for those :)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> stevebb,  just do 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: Bug. Sorry about that :)
[06:19] <Gun_Smoke> np
[06:19] <stevebb> DaSkreech: but if I do sudo adept_manager --version-update, I get: "cannot verify key"
[06:19] <stevebb> Dr_willis: without using adept_manager?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> stevebb: ack kdesu adept_manager --version-upgrade
[06:19] <DaSkreech> !kdesu | stevebb
[06:19] <ubotu> stevebb: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:19] <Dr_willis> stevebb,  thers dozen ways of updateing. :)
[06:21] <stevebb> there we go... kdesu was the problem... thanks all
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: dozens?
[06:21] <stevebb> :-)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> 1000000000000000's :)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> bazillions..
[06:21] <Dr_willis> ok.. i can think of like 5
[06:23] <phasio> when i want the bootup and the ttys to have a better resolution i add "vga=788" in grub. in gutsy this doesn't seem to work. i am pretty much sure it's because of the "vga" option because when i delete it i have my consoles back, but with a horrible resolution. what do i do?
[06:23] <judgen> is there a way to get ubuntu-human like scrollbars and progressbars in kde?
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: maybe we should do it in Perl :)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> comal
[06:24] <Dr_willis> lisp
[06:24] <posingaspopular> do it in fortran
[06:25] <posingaspopular> aka the only real programming language
[06:25] <DaSkreech> posingaspopular: No
[06:25] <DaSkreech> naughts and crosses is the only real programming language
[06:25] <Dr_willis> !info moo
[06:25] <ubotu> Package moo does not exist in gutsy
[06:26] <danielviras> hey guys, how you doing?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOO_programming_language
[06:26] <UnluckyMike> gotta question, when I try to change the volume via keyboard, it only switches between 11% and 0% but the volume isn't effected. Also the mute button won't mute. I already mapped them to the leyboard any ideas?
[06:26] <posingaspopular> DaSkreech: im sorry, i dont play d and d, i dont know what that is
[06:26] <danielviras> I upgraded to gutsy, and compiz fusion dissappeared, anyoe has any idea why this happened?
[06:26] <posingaspopular> !hi |  danielviras
[06:26] <ubotu> danielviras: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:26] <danielviras> thanks!
[06:26] <danielviras> kubuntu rules!
[06:26] <Naxa> hi i have a kubuntu installation but lost grub from MBR. now I started the install cd how can I restore mz grub? the installation is on /dev/sda3
[06:26] <danielviras> hehe
[06:27] <Naxa> mz=my
[06:27] <posingaspopular> !grub | Naxa
[06:27] <ubotu> Naxa: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:27] <phasio> when i want the bootup and the ttys to have a better resolution i add "vga=788" in grub. in gutsy this doesn't seem to work. i am pretty much sure it's because of the "vga" option because when i delete it i have my consoles back, but with a horrible resolution. what do i do?
[06:27] <danielviras> so... does anyone know how can I restore my compiz fusion?
[06:28] <Naxa> ok thank you i will check! but actually there is no working operating system since windows installation failed
[06:28] <judgen> polyester is great looking but i would prefer human.. is there a kde style that looks like human somewhere... ive been looking at kde-look for ages... cant find one with scróllbars and progressbars that looks like ubuntu
[06:29] <Gun_Smoke> I'm trying to add some system monitor to my desktop.. Now installing lm_sensors straight forward for kubuntu?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> !info lm_sensors
[06:29] <ubotu> Package lm_sensors does not exist in gutsy
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Grr
[06:29] <Gun_Smoke> hummm
[06:29] <Gun_Smoke> That kills a lot doesn't it..
[06:30] <dystopianray> !info lm-sensors
[06:30] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[06:30] <danielviras> hey, I can't use compiz manager, it closes right after it opens, anyone knows why?
[06:30] <Gun_Smoke> What do we use in it's place?  Still waiting?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Gun_Smoke: ^^^
[06:30] <DaSkreech> I'm a dimwit
[06:31] <Gun_Smoke> dystopianray: must be why I couldn't find it..  _ for - lol
[06:32] <Gun_Smoke> back to my project.. I'm getting distracted easily tonight...
[06:32] <Ertain> Okay, I've fixed the "udved" problem.  Now every time I update my database with Adept it keeps saying a new version is available, yet I'm already up to Gutsy.
[06:32] <Insanity^> Is there anyone here that helped me earlier?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> depends on what the probloem was. :)
[06:34] <Insanity^> Well, I was in here earlier and I was having trouble installing Kubuntu 7.10. The install CD boots, but when I try to install the OS, my screen just goes black. They suggested to use a text-based install. I did that, but now when the OS loads it leaves me at the same black screen.
[06:34] <Insanity^> Could it be my video card?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> what is your video card?
[06:35] <Insanity^> It's an nVidia 8800 gts
[06:35] <Insanity^> So, relatively new.
[06:35] <phasio> when i want the bootup and the ttys to have a better resolution i add "vga=788" in grub. in gutsy this doesn't seem to work. i am pretty much sure it's because of the "vga" option because when i delete it i have my consoles back, but with a horrible resolution. what do i do?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> thats odd.. I got an 8800gts and it works fine..
[06:35] <Insanity^> it just doesn't seem to be displaying.
[06:35] <LEE986321> hmm
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Insanity^,  AHA!.. you got only 1 monitor hooked up? power down. Mvoe the  cable to the OTHER monitor conector on the card.
[06:36] <Insanity^> the hard drive is doing SOMETHING.
[06:36] <Insanity^> seriously?
[06:36] <Insanity^> do you think i have it on my secondary?
[06:36] <LEE986321> well its supose to do something
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Insanity^,  i recall it defaulting to the other dvi conector for me
[06:36] <Insanity^> AWESOME.
[06:36] <LEE986321> Amarok rocks
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Insanity^,   i use 2 monitors..
[06:37] <Insanity^> willis, if this works (and you'll know in like 5minutes when I boot the OS) i'll love you forever.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> :) i remberhaving to switch them around.
[06:37] <Insanity^> i see.
[06:37] <Insanity^> i'll be back in a second then.
[06:37] <Insanity^> w00t!
[06:37] <Dr_willis> i dont think switching the cables with the power on - is a good idea.. could try it i guess ;)
[06:38] <dystopianray> swapping monitor cables shouldn't be a problem
[06:38] <Dr_willis> dystopianray,  well ive notcied that nvida cards might not 'see' the swap if they were powered up woth no cable attatched
[06:39] <Dr_willis> at least that what seems to happen with TV out  for me.  and some other nvidia cards
[06:39] <dystopianray> ah yeah well they may have issues like that
[06:39] <LEE986321> well i have open gl graphics
[06:40] <Dr_willis> i also noticed that with JUST a tv hooked up. the nvidia cards will default to the tv out. :) which is handy
[06:40] <Dr_willis> they try to be smart.. but sadly some times with 2 monitors it gets backwards.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> rigth now GDM shows up on the wrong (left side) monitor.. KDM shows up on the proper one. :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> kde starts up and the splash is on the left monitor.. but the desktop loads on the right side one . heh
[06:41] <neil> Hello
[06:41] <tazz> hey i am trying to install kde4 in kubuntu. I followed the instructions at http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php but it dosnt seem to be working. Any idea what could be wrong?
[06:44] <Insanity^> Dr_willis; it didn't work. It doesn't even work on my VGA monitor.
[06:44] <Insanity^> It's just not displaying
[06:44] <neil> I'm trying to hook up an external hard drive via USB, but it keeps coming up as Read-only (Root is the user and group, and in permissions, all it has is View permission for owner)
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Insanity^,  does the console work? 'alt-ctrl-f1' ?
[06:46] <LEE986321> well i been playing with translucencey and havn't any errors..ewartating
[06:46] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis; not at all
[06:47] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis; it looks like it just doesn't display video.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  thats very very odd..
[06:47] <Morgwyr> should i roll back to feisty and update?
[06:47] <Morgwyr> should i try the alt disc?
[06:47] <sub[t]rnl> heyo
[06:47] <Dr_willis> This was on a clean isntall? or a upgrade?
[06:47] <Morgwyr> clean install.
[06:47] <sub[t]rnl> tty's not displaying?
[06:47] <Morgwyr> tty?
[06:47] <sub[t]rnl> cli's outside of the xserver
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> just trying to catch up
[06:48] <Morgwyr> i don't know what the acronyms mean.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> You see the grub menu however? lets get clear on exactkt wgats going on. :) for sub[t]rnl
[06:48] <Morgwyr> i see the grub
[06:48] <Morgwyr> i choose linux kernel 7.10, and then it hangs.
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> i ran into this, check to see if your passing any vga= in the menu.lst
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> if he's on gutsy's default kernel
[06:48] <Dr_willis> 8800gts video card. The Live CD gave black screen.. the ALternative install worked. but boots to black screen.
[06:48] <Morgwyr> just like it did when i was trying to install the OS (i did a text based isntall and it fixed that)
[06:49] <Gun_Smoke> Can someone tell me why I'm getting this?  ./mkdev.sh: line 30: syntax error: unexpected end of file   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41475/   I'm trying to follow this how-to.
[06:49] <Gun_Smoke> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-lm-sensors-on-Ubuntu-47205.shtml
[06:49] <Dr_willis> sub[t]rnl,  yea. i was about to suggest editing the grub entry and have 'vga=ask' or use 'nofb' and disable   the framebuffer totally
[06:49]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[06:49] <Morgwyr> heh. you'll have to expound there.
[06:49] <sub[t]rnl> for some reason the framebuffer with the kernel is screwey
[06:49] <Morgwyr> linux semi-newbie
[06:49] <Dr_willis> at the grub menu you can hit 'e' and edit the grub boot line/options
[06:49] <Morgwyr> should i add something to the boot command line?
[06:50] <DaSkreech> night all!
[06:50] <Morgwyr> night.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> delete the vga=whatever part and add in 'nofb'
[06:50] <Morgwyr> and that should fix it?
[06:50] <Morgwyr> what exactly does it do?
[06:50] <shakey> hello?
[06:50] <Morgwyr> (sorry to ask so many questions. i'm just curious.)
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> it will stop a framebuffer (vesab) and you'll...
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> see.. stuff..
[06:50] <Dr_willis> similer to  kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=91c4c158-95c4-45cd-af01-78039aaf0218 ro quiet nosplash nofb
[06:50] <Dr_willis> nofb = No framebuffer
[06:51] <Morgwyr> so it'll be -nofb at the end?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> No.. it will be 'nofb' :)
[06:51] <shakey> on my other computer, i upgraded to 7.10, and then set up kde4 beta 3, it was very broke
[06:51] <Morgwyr> alright
[06:51] <Morgwyr> thanks :D
[06:51] <Morgwyr> brb
[06:51] <shakey> has anyone else tried the kde beta?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> once ya can get to a terminal - you can install the nvidia-glx drivers from the terminal :)
[06:52] <shakey> o
[06:52] <sub[t]rnl> i hope the kernel team gets this sorted out before too long
[06:52] <sub[t]rnl> :/
[06:52]  * shakey cries
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm it worked fine for my 8800gtsxxx
[06:52] <shakey> dang son, u got the 8800gts, u dont play around!
[06:52] <Lam_> Dr_willis: what does "quiet" do?
[06:52] <sub[t]rnl> gutsy's default kernel?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  some sort of kernel error/info messages
[06:53] <Lam_> Dr_willis: ahh. ok thanks
[06:53] <Dr_willis> on a gutsy clean install.. No hassles. ;)
[06:53] <shakey> so no one else here has tried the kde4 beta?
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> :) basically the same here
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> but you don't really get hassles when you've been in linux long enough
[06:53] <shakey> sub[t]rnl: how long is that?
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> i was using debian in 94
[06:54] <shakey> oic...so thats 13 years...i got about 1 solid year...
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> well, I dropped off the map for a while
[06:54] <shakey> o
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> now all of a sudden, the eye candy is mind blowing
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> and the people that were using linux for anti-gui, have a different tune
[06:54]  * shakey loves cli
[06:54]  * sub[t]rnl loves gui now
[06:55] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[06:55] <shakey> yea, its cool, but i dont like it for my laptop
[06:55] <shakey> on my pc though, its great, my 7900gt handles it like a champ
[07:00] <tinin> Why dont I get a notification about a new version avaliable? I enabled all repos yet
[07:02] <Dr_willis> tinin,  try an sudo apt-get update   and sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:02] <tinin> mmmm done
[07:04] <tinin> While upgrading to Kubuntu 7.10 why do I need pre-released updates to do the upgrade?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> i never upgrade. i always do clean installs...
[07:05] <Dr_willis> so no idea.
[07:06] <shakey> Dr_willis: did u try the kde beta?
[07:07] <tinin> Dr_willis well Id like to maintain my config, but feisty is beeing buggy these last few weeks
[07:07] <Dr_willis> i aint going to botyher with the kde beta for a while. :)
[07:07] <ccshen> excuse me, after upgrating to 7.10,my kaffeine Can't init new Video Driver opengl. what happened?
[07:07] <tinin> mmmm too many errors for kubuntu? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuGutsyComments
[07:08] <sub[t]rnl> agreed Dr_willis
[07:08] <sub[t]rnl> ccshen: whats the exact error it gives
[07:08] <Dr_willis> tinin,  i always keep /home on its own HD. so updating is much easier. :)
[07:08] <Dr_willis> well clean installs are much easier. :)
[07:09] <dystopianray> ccshen: what video card do you have?
[07:09] <dystopianray> ccshen: sounds like you no longer have opengl acceleration
[07:09] <ccshen> intel 945
[07:10] <ccshen> i've installed 915resolution
[07:10] <dystopianray> ccshen: you don't need 915resolution in gutsy
[07:10] <tinin> Dr_willis I usually do them too, I just wanted to try to upgrade, as I haavve installed it to ome friends and I was expecting kubuntu to upgrade by itself
[07:10] <dystopianray> ccshen: set kaffeine to use the xv video output
[07:11] <ccshen> but xv still have problems-- it seems too gray
[07:11] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis unfortunately, that didn't work either. i tried nofb and even vga=ask, but neither one worked.
[07:11] <ccshen> so it could be sovled after i uninstalled the 915 resolution
[07:11] <Morgwyr> it tells me the kernel is alive, says another line about the kernel, and then goes black.
[07:12] <FireTek> hey... can anyone tell me why kubuntu takes 600mb+ memory on fresh install with nothing running and does not use any swap?
[07:12] <dystopianray> ccshen: 915resolution does nothing in gutsy
[07:12] <dystopianray> FireTek: how much of that is disk cache?
[07:12] <Morgwyr> what's 915 resolution?
[07:12] <sub[t]rnl> FireTek: check to see if its buffered or cache
[07:12] <dystopianray> Morgwyr: it changes bios video modes
[07:12] <ccshen> to dystopianray: ok ,i will try it.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> 915 - is for Intel video cards
[07:12] <FireTek> how
[07:12] <Morgwyr> nah, i have an nvidia.
[07:12] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install htop <-- nice program
[07:13] <dystopianray> FireTek: pastebin the output of 'free -m'
[07:13] <Morgwyr> any ideas now Dr_willis
[07:13] <Morgwyr> ?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Nope. got a spare video card? :) got an onboard video?
[07:13] <Morgwyr> should i to ubuntu about this?
[07:13] <Morgwyr> i've tried it on a vga monitor already, and my spare video card.
[07:13] <Morgwyr> i have a spare nvidia 7800, which is old enough to be supporte.d
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  wait,. this is affecting 2 different video cards then> what was the 2nd one?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Same exact deal eh?
[07:14] <Morgwyr> same exact thing.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> sounding more like a motherboard/pcie issue now.
[07:14] <FireTek> http://pastebin.com/d2e1400ba
[07:14] <Morgwyr> i have a pretty old motherboard too.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  try some other live cd's (different disrtos) see if it affects them also.
[07:15] <Morgwyr> the motherboard is from the christmas before last.
[07:15] <Morgwyr> alright.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> PuppyLinux is a nice light/fast download.
[07:15] <Morgwyr> what would be a comparable distro?
[07:15] <dystopianray> FireTek: it is using 191MB of ram, with 400+MB of disk cache
[07:15] <Morgwyr> i don't mind a large download.
[07:15] <Morgwyr> well, for troubleshooting i don't even need a big one.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Puppylinux is worth keeping in the toolbox. :)
[07:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:15] <Dr_willis> The Gparted Live cd is handy also.
[07:16] <FireTek> dystopianray: why does it show almost 700
[07:16] <FireTek> how do i clear disk cashe
[07:16] <shakey> how do you pastebin?
[07:16] <shakey> !pastebin
[07:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:16] <Morgwyr> which version should i get?
[07:17] <Morgwyr> there are so many.
[07:17] <acee12345> !glx
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <shakey> free -m | pastebin
[07:17] <dystopianray> FireTek: why do you want to clear your disk cache?
[07:17] <FireTek> because its using all my memory
[07:17] <juan> hello! i have just reinstalled kubuntu 7.10 nd i would like to know where to change the login screen
[07:17] <FireTek> i only have a gig
[07:17] <dystopianray> FireTek: that's suppsoed to happen
[07:17] <FireTek> my lappy is lagging like hell
[07:17] <FireTek> its a duo core
[07:17] <FireTek> gig of ram
[07:18] <dystopianray> FireTek: that isn't anything to do with the memory usage
[07:18] <FireTek> why the lag
[07:18] <dystopianray> FireTek: run 'top' and see what is using the cpu
[07:18] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis; should i get the 3.01retro-k2 version?
[07:18] <acee12345> !xgl
[07:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[07:19] <FireTek> it shows the most anything is using is 2.5%
[07:19] <zero1> hi people, correct me if i'm wrong but, gutsy doesn't seem to require me to enter my password (for root privs) as much as feisty.  what is this new thing it's using?
[07:20] <dystopianray> FireTek: in what way is it lagging?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  yea whatevers the latest.. 3,01  i think came out alst week
[07:20] <shakey> !gutsy
[07:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[07:20] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  its like under 100mb i think. :)
[07:20] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis; what does the retro mean, though? it's the one i'm downloading.
[07:20] <FireTek> while scrooling webpages, opening apps ect.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> No idea :)
[07:21] <FireTek> just real sluggish
[07:21] <dystopianray> FireTek: what video card do you have?
[07:21] <FireTek> bah.. ATI built in
[07:21] <FireTek> not sure what exact model
[07:21] <juan> anuone know how to change the login screen?
[07:21] <dystopianray> FireTek: are you using the radeon or fglrx driver?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> change what on the login screen.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> thers kdm themes and a theme manager for it
[07:21] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[07:21] <ubotu> Found: kdm, kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme
[07:21] <FireTek> whatever it installed
[07:22] <FireTek> i have not changed anything
[07:22] <ccshen> i've uninstalled 915resolution. however, the kaffeine still doesn't support opengl, and my screen resolution can only be set to 1024x768(normally is 1280x800)
[07:22] <FireTek> kubuntu did not even recognize my sound
[07:22] <dystopianray> ccshen: 915resolution is not needed for gutsy
[07:22] <juan> i would like to change the login screen completely, add anew one, Dr_willis
[07:22] <FireTek> I have to patch it whenever i install it
[07:22] <dystopianray> ccshen: use 'xv' instead of opengl for video output
[07:24] <FireTek> dystopianray: any ideas whats causing it
[07:24] <ccshen> to dystopianray: but why my screen resolution can only be set to 1024x768 after removing that?it seems so blurred
[07:24] <dystopianray> FireTek: no, sorry
[07:25] <dystopianray> ccshen: you'll need to fix your xorg.conf
[07:25] <FireTek> bah... i think Gateways suck!
[07:25] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis; if puppylinux works, what then?
[07:25] <FireTek> lol
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  well its some basic troubleshooting
[07:26] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis; not to be a hassle, but if i get that to work, can i come back here and if you're around get some ideas?
[07:26] <ccshen> to dystopianray:        SubSection "Display"
[07:26] <ccshen>                 Depth           24
[07:26] <ccshen>                 Modes           "1280x800"
[07:26] <ccshen>         EndSubSection
[07:26] <ccshen>  
[07:26] <dystopianray> ccshen: you are using the 'intel' driver and not 'i810' right?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  its 3 am here. I wont be here much longer
[07:26] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis; alright. i'll try to figure it out, then. :D
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  if it does work.. well it sounds like a kernel/motherboard oddity
[07:27] <sub[t]rnl> !kdmtheme | juan
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmtheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <ccshen> yes. s
[07:27] <Morgwyr> i think if it does i'll try feisty and upgrade, Dr_willis.
[07:27] <sub[t]rnl> juan: sudo apt-get install kdetheme, then go to kontrol _> system adminestration -> KDM Theme to change it
[07:27] <dystopianray> ccshen: grep /var/log/Xorg.0.log for 1280x800 and pastebin it
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Morgwyr,  if Feisty worked.. and GUtsy dont.. well.. thats another interesting tip.
[07:28] <Morgwyr> well, i've had ubuntu dapper on this before.
[07:29] <Morgwyr> not this video card granted, but same mobo.
[07:29] <ccshen> to dystopianray:(II) I810(0): PanelID returned panel resolution : 1280x800
[07:29] <ccshen> (II) I810(0): DDCModeFromDetailedTiming: 1280x800 Warning: We only handle seperate sync.
[07:29] <ccshen> (II) I810(0): Modeline "1280x800"   71.11  1280 1328 1360 1440  800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync
[07:29] <ccshen> (II) I810(0): Modeline "1280x800"   59.26  1280 1328 1360 1440  800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync
[07:29] <ccshen> (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x800" (no mode of this name)
[07:29] <ccshen>  
[07:29] <Morgwyr> Dr_willis, which is why i want to try feisty.
[07:29] <dystopianray> ccshen: you are using 'i810', you should be using the 'intel' driver
[07:30] <juan> sub[t]rnl thanks
[07:30] <ccshen> to dystopianray: excuse me, i don't know how to do it.
[07:30] <dystopianray> ccshen: change i810 to intel in xorg.conf
[07:32] <jonna> Anyone else having problem with kde-window-decorator crashing every now and then?
[07:32] <FireTek> dystopianray: is there different drivers for my ati card that work better
[07:32] <dystopianray> FireTek: no idea
[07:32] <ccshen> to dystopianray: you means change Driver string "i810" to "intel", that's ok?
[07:32] <dystopianray> ccshen: yes
[07:33] <FireTek> what is ubiquity
[07:35] <FireTek> what is ubiquity.. anyone know?
[07:35] <dystopianray> FireTek: it is the unbuntu installer
[07:40] <ashfaq> Help me with vm server for kubuntu gutsy please!
[07:41] <ashfaq> How should I start and succeed installing xp or vista I have both the cds, as most of my programs work on windows until I have full grip of kubuntu
[07:41] <Les_Caesars> Is there a way to make compiz use Kwin instead of metacity for my window decorator?
[07:42] <sub[t]rnl> Les_Caesars: kde doesn't use metacity
[07:43] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: but my compiz, in KDE does.
[07:43] <ashfaq> Well some one for me
[07:43] <sub[t]rnl> !windows | ashfaq
[07:43] <ubotu> ashfaq: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:44] <ashfaq> Dear I want to use virtual machine to be used in kubuntu ok
[07:45] <Les_Caesars> ashfaq: just so you know we're not ignoring you. I'd help you, but I don't know how to set up a virtual machine
[07:45] <sub[t]rnl> Les_Caesars: compiz uses compiz for window compositing. edit your ~/.bashrc and add export KDWM=whateveryouwantfordefault
[07:45] <djdarkman> does someone knows a good folder synchronizing program?
[07:46] <sub[t]rnl> KDEWM=
[07:46] <sub[t]rnl> sorry
[07:47] <ashfaq> Thats the main thing, I heard about virtual machines, and you can use it in kubuntu but how and where to get, that is what I need, kubuntu as I had installed and got the feel is not a a complete windows like distro for a new bee like me for the present
[07:48] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: you don't understand. My borders. You know. Buttons that manipulate the window. How the title bar works. It uses Metacity. It's not an emerald theme. It's metacity. How do I change that?
[07:48] <sub[t]rnl> start->settings->emerald theme manager
[07:48] <sub[t]rnl> ?
[07:49] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install emerald if its not there
[07:50] <Les_Caesars> I don't want emerald. I want to change window decorators. Compiz allows you to choose window decorators. In previous flavors of Ubuntu, I've had the option to choose Kwin, metacity, and emerald.
[07:50] <Lynoure> I upgraded to gutsy before beta and now Adept is telling me there is a new version and that I should upgrade... what should I do?
[07:51] <LEE986321> eh ok how can i tell if i am 32 or 64, i got my disks mesed up
[07:51] <sub[t]rnl> emerald is the window decorator for compiz, it allows you to change themes, et cetra
[07:51] <coteyr> uname -m
[07:51] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  no idea on that. I just know that to change4 the kde window deco. I install emerald.
[07:52] <coteyr> LEE; uname -m
[07:52] <Dr_willis> previou flavors of ubuntu used beryl - not the compiz-fusion.
[07:52] <sub[t]rnl> well, kubuntu used beryl right
[07:52] <sub[t]rnl> compiz was the gnome varient
[07:52] <Les_Caesars> It was still compiz in 7.04 though
[07:52] <coteyr> ok so I ran update manager and my box crashed at around 80% of installing the packages. How can I recover
[07:52] <LEE986321> ok i am running i86
[07:53] <Dr_willis> well im out of here.  Night all.
[07:53] <sub[t]rnl> night dr
[07:53] <coteyr> lee; sounds 32 to me i have amd86_64
[07:53] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: no. They are completely independent. it went like this:
[07:53] <Les_Caesars> compiz was popular. Everyone used it.
[07:53] <Les_Caesars> Compiz was outshined by Beryl. Everyone used that.
[07:53] <Les_Caesars> compiz and beryl merge. Everyone uses compiz now.
[07:53] <LEE986321> ok  now if this serves me right all i need to do in this version is activate my drivers an it should restart
[07:53] <sub[t]rnl> beryl fork, remerge of the two to compiz-fusion
[07:53] <Lynoure> Should I upgrade again? Or can I somehow make it realize I already upgraded?
[07:54] <LEE986321> correct with out havig to change it to vesa
[07:54] <Les_Caesars> ok. I have a more important problem. I have no "Recent applications" in kickoff
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> kickoff is kde4's "kicker" right?
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> never used it
[07:55] <sub[t]rnl> Lynoure: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:55] <LEE986321> ok...if i get the black screen of death i am hitting the hay lol
[07:55] <AndyMan1> !compiz
[07:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[07:56] <Lynoure> sub[t]rnl: I have the latest versions already
[07:56] <jonna> Lynoure: I have same problem as you...
[07:56] <Les_Caesars> kickoff is what SUSE uses.
[07:56] <Les_Caesars> and Sabayon
[07:56] <Lynoure> jonna: it seems at the slightly later stage the system decided it was up-to-date after all
[07:56] <sub[t]rnl> Lynoure: yeah, after running that command it should satisfy adept
[07:56] <coteyr> My box crashed 80% of the way thru of a update-manager update. Now the system will bot but not in the recent kernel the apps seem to be there but apt notifier (or whatever it is) says i have a distro update pending. when I run it it says it is complet
[07:56] <sub[t]rnl> Les_Caesars: ah, ic
[07:56] <coteyr> is there anyway i can recover?
[07:57] <Lynoure> sub[t]rnl: Why? Should I report a bug in Adept, because for upgrading, apt-get dist-upgrade is strictly recommended against...
[07:57] <coteyr> is there a way to recover
[07:57] <coteyr> sorry about the repeat
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> Lynoure: heh
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> Lynoure: just run the command, if your currently using the most current, nothing will happen
[07:58] <sub[t]rnl> Lynoure: and your adept will be fixed, if not, you'll upgrade the packages that your missing, win win
[07:59] <jonna> I still get the version upgrade after i do a "fetch updates" in adept manager. (after running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade)
[07:59] <Lynoure> sub[t]rnl: Still, sounds like a bug to me.
[07:59] <sub[t]rnl> same
[07:59] <sub[t]rnl> its all over bug.launchpad and google
[08:00] <ernie_de> hi
[08:00] <Lynoure> We had this same thing with dapper->edgy updates, I think
[08:00] <jonna> Well.... it seems to be up to date so i guess it doesn't matter that much.
[08:01] <sub[t]rnl> don't let a little icon drive you crazy
[08:01] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[08:01] <jonna> :)
[08:04] <LEE986321> well it worked lol
[08:05] <LEE986321> but my monitor has an issue lol
[08:16] <DHQ> how do i check my kubuntu version in linux
[08:16] <sub[t]rnl> DHQ: lsb_release -a
[08:18] <DHQ> sub[t]rnl, what is this LSB Version:    core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-noarch:core-2.0-ia32:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.1-ia32
[08:19] <sub[t]rnl> not sure what that is
[08:19] <robotphood> anyone know how i can bind my mouse back/forward buttons to work in konqueror/dolphin
[08:20] <DHQ> dolphin sux :( i love my konqueror as default
[08:20] <robotphood> i prefer dolphin :P
[08:20] <DHQ> robotphood, y
[08:20] <ernie_de> anyone an idea, why my dist-upgrade dies silently after the download?
[08:20] <DHQ> robotphood, what so good in it
[08:20] <robotphood> light and does everything i need
[08:20] <DHQ> robotphood, you can open new tabs
[08:21] <robotphood> what do you mean
[08:21] <DHQ> well in dolphine can you open new tabs
[08:21] <lee_> eh how do i enable comsite?
[08:21] <jiger> somone help me. my existing partion is not getting recognized and not loading though it exists
[08:21] <lee_> eh composite?
[08:22] <jiger> it is containing /usr
[08:22] <mulander> hi all, I recently upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 (according to the method listed on kubuntu.org). Now adept_notifier poped up with a regular update and after it finished a button labeled 'version upgrade' appeared next to the 'finish' button.
[08:22] <lee_> ?
[08:22] <jiger> I have just upgraded from feisty -> gusty
[08:22] <sub[t]rnl> !fstab | jiger
[08:22] <ubotu> jiger: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:22] <mulander> can anyone tell me why I have this button active? (I already upgraded :> right?)
[08:23] <sub[t]rnl> mulander: its a bug
[08:23] <jiger> ubotu:/usr with its original(as per feisty) UUID is listed but not lodaing
[08:23] <lee_> yeah it seems to be the Bug
[08:23] <DHQ> mulander, even i have the same thing guess its a bug
[08:23] <sub[t]rnl> mulander: if sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn nothing, your using the most current version
[08:23] <mulander> ok thanks all, just wanted to be sure :)
[08:24] <lee_> any how..how do i engage composite?
[08:24] <DHQ> when i lock my desktop and resume it i doesnt resume it just stays there without any activity
[08:24] <jiger> anyone have ne idea how to force recognition of a partion?
[08:24] <lee_> hmm sounds dangerouse to me
[08:25] <lee_> erg i am headin to bead, iam dead dog tired
[08:25] <sub[t]rnl> night lee
[08:25] <jiger> the partion exists. it is clean too but not getting loaded on boot
[08:25] <jiger> no /dev/sda? handle is being created
[08:26] <lee_> sub[t]rnl night..oh befor i hit the hay.. its all working great save for needing to activate composite
[08:26] <jiger> though the partition is fine
[08:26] <lee_> where do i go?
[08:26] <sub[t]rnl> what kind of compositing you looking for? kwin composits
[08:26] <sub[t]rnl> or are you talkinag about compiz-fusion
[08:27] <lee_> sub[t]rnl hmm not sure what k is asking for
[08:27] <lee_> just a sec Ill crash  it brb
[08:30] <lee_> the composite manager crashed twice with in a minute and is there for dissabled...the othr reads.. you muset enable compoisite
[08:30] <lee_> oops I hit the ok
[08:30] <lee_> Iam guessing wht ever one comes with  KDE
[08:31] <tomer> anyone know why compiz causes the window frame to disappear
[08:32] <Cugel> tomer: if you mean the titlebar, then yes.
[08:32] <tomer> Cugel: yes that is what i mean. how do i fix that?
[08:33] <Cugel> You need to add one line to xorg.conf, about enabling some visuals. A search on 'titlebars disappear compiz' shows you lots of answers.
[08:34] <Cugel> sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24   --- from a terminal. That does the trick.
[08:43] <ubuntu__> Does anyone know why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might not recognize my GeForce 7600 GS video card?  discover sees it.
[08:44] <ubuntu__> Would it make any differnce if I am running off the livecd?
[08:50] <sJim> Hello!
[08:51] <xevious> those kde4 beta 3 packages are borked. should probably remove that from the topic
[08:51] <xevious> and kubuntu.com
[08:51]  * xevious goes to bed
[08:53] <alexey__> Q: I want to install 7.10, but I only have 7.04 (DVD). Is it possible to install 7.04 and update to 7.10?
[08:57] <dystopianray> alexey__: yes, but it's faster and easier to just download 7.10
[08:57] <ubuntu__> alexey__: yes, there should be instructions on upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 on the release page
[09:00] <Morgwyr> Kubuntu boots to a black screen after alt install; I can load PuppyLinux on it just fine. Anyone know of a fix?
[09:03] <Omarian> after a kernel update, ubuntu adds 2 entries to the boot menu. i know how to remove the menus but i wanted to know if there is a way to actually remove the older kernel.
[09:03] <pag> Omarian, sudo apt-get remove $package  works for kernels too
[09:04] <Omarian> so if i wanted to remove 2.6.20.15 i would do sudo ap-get remove kernel...
[09:04] <Omarian> what is the actual package name
[09:05] <pag> linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic  probably
[09:05] <Omarian> oh ok
[09:05] <Omarian> that makes sense
[09:06] <Omarian> are there any other packages i need to remove?
[09:06] <pag> not as far as I know
[09:06] <Omarian> OK
[09:06] <obiwan_> hi @ all
[09:07] <Omarian> i am also trying to access some windows shares over the lan but smb is not installed and i cannot install it from system settings
[09:07] <Omarian> where do i begin?
[09:07] <pag> !samba | Omarian
[09:07] <ubotu> Omarian: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:08] <Omarian> thanks i will check those out
[09:08] <obiwan_> @Omarian isn' t i t already on board with your Ubuntu?
[09:09] <Omarian> no its not
[09:10] <Omarian> i just ran apt-get and it was installed
[09:10] <ubuntu__> Omarian: the client side is.
[09:10] <Omarian> oh really>
[09:10] <Omarian> ?
[09:10] <obiwan_> i thogt so
[09:10] <obiwan_> thougt
[09:10] <Omarian> how do i activate it to browse windows shares
[09:10] <ubuntu__> You should be able to browse your local network.
[09:11] <obiwan_> wan x window do you use?
[09:11] <obiwan_> I mean what type of wm do you use
[09:12] <ubuntu__> I just open konqueror, and click on "Network Folders" the "Samba Shares"
[09:12] <ubuntu__> the -> then
[09:12] <obiwan_> @ ubuntu I used the same way
[09:13] <obiwan_> my problem is the rights management
[09:14] <Thempleton> This is nice. How do I statically assign a specific device-name to a USB resource as a keystick or an ext. HD?
[09:14] <obiwan_> I had XP running before and all my data are saved on a external disk
[09:14] <neptunepink> roflmao; <alt-f2>yes
[09:15] <neptunepink> They have no, too! :D
[09:15] <obiwan_> my problem is I can read it but I can't write on it.
[09:16] <ubuntu__> obiwan_: are you mounting the disk?  Or are you accessing it over a network?
[09:16] <Omarian> i am trying to mount a windows share and it is telling me that the mount point does not exist
[09:16] <Omarian> it is a network share
[09:17] <ubuntu__> Omarian: I assume that the rights issue is on the Windows box.
[09:18] <obiwan_> anybody here knowing the worldbook hard disk form Western Digital?
[09:19] <Omarian> no the issue was not on the windows box. i just fixed it by going to network and add network folder
[09:19] <Omarian> its working
[09:19] <obiwan_> @ubuntu access is only possibly through network
[09:19] <obiwan_> it has only an rj45 attach
[09:20] <ubuntu__> I'm not certain I understand.  What did you do differently?
[09:20] <obiwan_> @ ubuntu me or omarian?
[09:20] <Minnozz> My wireless network randomly fails, I don't know what's wrong with it. I don't use a networkmanager but placed my settings in /etc/network/interfaces . There is an error when I ifup wlan0, but it Just Works. Anybody knows why it fails?
[09:21] <obiwan_> ah omarian
[09:22] <Omarian> kaffeine is not playing my avi files
[09:22] <Omarian> should i try a different program
[09:22] <Omarian> ?
[09:22] <Thempleton> This is nice. How do I statically assign a specific device-name to a USB resource as a keystick or an ext. HD?
[09:22] <nicolai_> Omarian: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:23] <obiwan_> @ omarian: avi files are like a container perhaps you have not installed the needed codec?
[09:23] <Omarian> i believe its the xvid one
[09:24] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?
[09:24] <nicolai_> !restrictedformats | Omarian
[09:24] <ubotu> Omarian: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:25] <Omarian> thank you
[09:25] <nicolai_> No problem :)
[09:26] <obiwan_> how about my problem whith the rights management ?
[09:26] <tott> Hey,, got a prob, anyone got time?
[09:26] <vbgunz> anyone know why I have no tty 1 through 6? I only have a really fast blinking underscore :/
[09:27] <obiwan_> western digital has an own software for windows but none for linux-pc's
[09:28] <Thempleton> Hello, how to symlink to a USB keystick? Every time I insert the stick it is assigned to a different dev name depending on what other USB resources are present. Thanks
[09:29] <obiwan_> I tryed askin the support but they even did not aswer
[09:29] <obiwan_> answer
[09:29] <Omarian> this is taking a while
[09:29] <Omarian> is there a program i can install that will play avi files?
[09:30] <Omarian> i don't want to sift through codecs and libraries etc
[09:30] <Omarian> not right now at least
[09:30] <sJim> mplayer
[09:30] <obiwan_> @omarian you'll need the xvid codec
[09:30] <sJim> mplayer has codecs fir windows avi
[09:32] <Omarian> oh really? mplayer?
[09:32] <Minnozz> Well, I don't know if anybody saw what I said, but my internet failed again
[09:32] <sJim> I didn't install anything else and all avis work fine
 My wireless network randomly fails, I don't know what's wrong with it. I don't use a networkmanager but placed my settings in /etc/network/interfaces . There is an error when I ifup wlan0, but it Just Works. Anybody knows why it fails?
[09:34] <tdj_> maybe you have disabled broadcasting ?
[09:34] <tdj_> on the router
[09:34] <Minnozz> I don't know
[09:34] <Minnozz> lets see
[09:35] <tdj_> if you dont know    probally you didnt
[09:35] <Minnozz> When it failed, there was an endless row of these errors in /var/log/syslog: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=rawpaste&p=1202
[09:36] <Minnozz> anybody knows what those errors mean? ^
[09:37] <obiwan_> I've got a programm that runs only on windows xp systems how can I get it on ubuntu?
[09:37] <tdj_> if you google on those errors
[09:37] <obiwan_> I mean running on ubuntu
[09:37] <tdj_> you see that there are more with same problem
[09:37] <emonkey-f> obiwan_, which program?
[09:37] <Thempleton> obiwan_:the answer is Wine
[09:38] <Omarian> i installed mplayer and codecs and am trying to play an avi file from the network but it is trying to copy it locally first. why does it not stream it?
[09:39] <sJim> you need plugin for stream
[09:39] <Omarian> is it gstreamer?
[09:39] <sJim> there is firefox plugin for mplayer
[09:39] <obiwan_> @ emonkey I#ve got an worldbook external harddisk from western digital an have no problem to access all my files but I can't write on it cause of the rights management
[09:39] <sJim> or mplayer plugin for firefox...
[09:39] <obiwan_> the original wd software
[09:40] <Omarian> plugin to stream avi files in firefox??
[09:40] <emonkey-f> obiwan_, I've got the same external HD but no problem with read and write on it.
[09:41] <emonkey-f> oh ok, I didnt use any wd program before maybe I've not installed that
[09:41] <Omarian> i don't understand
[09:41] <obiwan_> emonkey how do you access it ?
[09:41] <Minnozz> tdj_: should I disable any programs when using /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:41] <obiwan_> my problem is perhaps that I did it before
[09:41] <tdj_> sorry  i dont know
[09:41] <emonkey-f> obiwan_, I plug it in and then a wizard is appearing which opens for me an konqueror or dolphin file manager
[09:42] <emonkey-f> obiwan_, yes could be
[09:42] <sJim> Omarian: are you trying to watch stream divx with browser or .avi-files from your hard drive
[09:43] <obiwan_> but it seems you have an other version cause mine is only accessible about network (without usb)
 Hello, how to symlink to a USB keystick or ext. HD? Every time I insert the stick or ext. HD it is assigned to a different dev name depending on what other USB resources are present. Thanks!
[09:43] <Omarian> sjim: what i am trying to do is play an avi file over the network in mplayer but it will not stream it
[09:43] <emonkey-f> obiwan_, ah yes .... you're right.
[09:43] <Omarian> i would prefer to not watch in the browser
[09:43] <Omarian> if i have a choice
[09:44] <obiwan_> @ templeton I think your problem is the automatically mount of your usb devices
[09:44] <tdj_> 1
[09:45] <Omarian> geez why is this so complicated
[09:45] <emonkey-f> obiwan_, maybe you'll find an answer here: http://www.uboontu.com/results.htm?cx=002072379199720138921%3A9m-bgfzutzq&cof=FORID%3A10&q=western+digital+external+hard+disk+network&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search#1115
[09:45] <obiwan_> in earlier times we needed to mont all manually and so i had scripts that assined everytime to the same folder
[09:46] <obiwan_> that was for Templeton
[09:46] <obiwan_> emonkey thx
[09:48] <Omarian> any suggestions?
[09:48] <Thempleton> obiwan_, in that scripts do you have to recognize what ext HD is new attached to USB... how to recognize this?
[09:49] <sJim> whats the error message?
[09:55] <ashfaq> Just downloaded vmware server from the site, now help me get installed for use, I tried the means by logic, but I failed to see the programe listed
[09:55] <vbgunz> anyone know why I cannot access terminals (tty) 1 through 6, I see only a blinking underscore/cursor :(
[09:56] <ashfaq> I have kubuntu gutsy latest installed!
[09:57] <dystopianray> is anyone else finding that their nvidia drivers don't work?
[09:57] <dystopianray> the kernel module cannot be found and X won't start?
[10:00] <ashfaq> No one to help with vmware installation pl.
[10:01] <afd_> hi! I'm having problems with the audio control keys on the keyboard, to control the sound volume
[10:02] <afd_> the keys (sort of) work: there's a small popup that appears on the screen and it gets toggled to maximum 11% volume if I press the increase volume key
[10:02] <afd_> but it has no effect on the volume
[10:02] <afd_> using kmix (and the systray applet), I can change, for real, the volume
[10:02] <afd_> I've set in kmix the global shortcuts, but they seem to be overridden by this other control that doesn't work
[10:03] <sJim> How can I install multimedia buttons on Toshiba laptop?
[10:03] <afd_> any ideas what to do? (or should I try to explain better my problems?)
[10:03] <aspirin_on_kubun> hi kubuntu users :-)
[10:05] <Franzmax> hello.  How can I mount a partition of my existing HD while running kubuntu from a live CD?
[10:05] <tsdgeos> yesd
[10:06] <tsdgeos> -d
[10:06] <obiwan_> @templeton I had my first experiences whith linux 9 years ago but the syntax is surely the same as at this times  you use mount than the type of disk and an mountpoint and umount to unmount your device
[10:06] <Thempleton> obiwan_, had a system crash with Gutsy. Again, how to recognise which USBstick is automounted by script if devicename changes?
[10:07] <obiwan_> my idea was set off the automatically mount and do it manually
[10:08] <obiwan_> the other side is you have to mount all manually then
[10:08] <obiwan_> even your cd or dvd
[10:08] <Thempleton> OK, it is fairly obvious but not of practical use if I've many USB devices like HDs and sticks.
[10:10] <Franzmax> How can I mount and use a HD when running kubuntu live CD?
[10:11] <Minnozz> anybody knows how to fix these errors? I get them when my network fails (they're in /var/log/syslog) and it's impossible to get my network to work again without rebooting. http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=rawpaste&p=1202
[10:13] <Thempleton> obiwan_, it seems I've to search by script (or better a demon) for a marker file to distinguish the specific USBstick and read in mtab where it is mounted.
[10:15] <Thempleton> Franzmax, you have to do exactly as you do in a HD installation, using mount.
[10:15] <Franzmax> Thempleton: means i have to modify fstab and mtab first?
[10:18] <Thonolan> hello there
[10:18] <obiwan_> @ thempleton, thats a nice idea too  you can assign a name to your device to search for or you use the internal serial number
[10:19] <obiwan_> anyone here running a smartphone on ubuntu
[10:19] <Thempleton> Franzmax, no, fstab is red if the system doesn't know how to mount a device and mtab says what device is already mounted. You need to  <mount /dev/"devicename" /"mountdir">
[10:19] <Thonolan> can i repair my apt-get after a broken update trial to 7.10 ?  my system still running on 7.04 but adept ,apt-get wont work
[10:20] <Thempleton> obiwan_:ok, thanks, I'll try this way.
[10:21] <Franzmax> Thempleton: do i have to create a new dir in (say) /media like /media/hda1 ?
[10:21] <obiwan_> franzmax it will be helpful to distinguish your devices
[10:22] <obiwan_> perhaps you give a name like external harddisk1
[10:23] <Thonolan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41486/
[10:23] <lars_> hallo habe da eine Frage wie man ein rpm installiert
[10:23] <Thonolan> that i get if i try to apt-get -f install
[10:24] <Thonolan> lars_: deutsch auf #kubuntu-de
[10:24] <Thempleton> Franzmax, yes this is a good idea, use a more mnemonic dirname as obiwan_ suggests.
[10:25] <lars_> also rpm habe ich installiert
[10:25] <lars_> ok
[10:26] <Franzmax> ok, thanks Thempleton and obiwan_
[10:26] <Thonolan> nobody any idea for me ?
[10:27] <obiwan_> Thonolan perhaps you could try it about your software packages
[10:28] <Thonolan> obiwan_: i cant start adept
[10:28] <obiwan_> do you use a wm?
[10:28] <Thonolan> obiwan_: i use kde
[10:29] <Thonolan> obiwan_: you mean that ?
[10:29] <Thonolan> with wm ?
[10:29] <obiwan_> yes
[10:29] <obiwan_> window manager
[10:29] <Thonolan> obiwan_i use kde
[10:30] <Thonolan> i was hopefully there is an option to clean that
[10:30] <obiwan_> do you have systemtools on it ?
[10:31] <seraph> hi, i don't want some partitions (recovery partitions) to be shown in konqueror/dolphin, is there a way to hide them?
[10:31] <Thonolan> obiwan_: which kind of tools  ?
[10:31] <Thonolan> a special program ?
[10:33] <Thonolan> obiwan_: or the point: system preferences?
[10:33] <emonkey-f> seraph, Maybe it's possible through /etc/fstab, but I've never done it.
[10:33] <obiwan_> I've got a german version of Gnome running an there is not only the adept manager but I've got also a package manager
[10:34] <emonkey-f> obiwan_, you mean synpatic pakcage manager?
[10:34] <emonkey-f> I mean Synaptic
[10:34] <Thonolan> obiwan i have try synaptic also
[10:35] <Thonolan> that is the packet manager for gnome
[10:35] <Thonolan> same problem
[10:37] <Oakbox> morning all, i was wondering. is there a way to get kubuntu to only open some of the applications back from your session when you reboot but not others?
[10:38] <Jucato> you can either 1. quit them before logging out or 2. exclude them from being started in System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Session Manager (there's an entry field there to list app names) or 3. Manually autostart those that you want and start with a blank sessions
[10:39] <Jucato> !autostart | Oakbox
[10:39] <ubotu> Oakbox: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[10:39] <obiwan_> Thonolan sorry that was actually my last idea
[10:39] <Thonolan> obiwan_: np thanks for your patience and help
[10:39] <obiwan_> np
[10:40] <obiwan_> Thonolan, do you have an install dvd?
[10:40] <Thonolan> obiwan_: i have yesterday dl the 7.10  and i have a alternate dvd 7.10
[10:41] <obiwan_> why dont you try start it perhaps it has something like a repair funktion
[10:41] <Thonolan> obiwan_: i mean an alternate 7.04
[10:42] <Thonolan> obiwan_: that i will try yes thanks for hint
[10:43] <obiwan_> I meant repair option
[10:43] <obiwan_> but you understood
[10:44] <Thonolan> obiwan_: yes
[10:44] <Oakbox> Jucato: thank you :)
[10:48] <PacShady> Anyone home?
[10:48] <Thonolan> obiwan_: i have it ! i have delete my sources list and build a new clean now adept running
[10:48] <PacShady> Iĺl take that as a yes
[10:48] <Thonolan> pheew
[10:48] <Thonolan> PacShady: ^^
[10:49] <PacShady> Gahh, now I realise I need to change my keyboard layout too
[10:49] <PacShady> While Iḿ doing so, could someone be able to tell me how to restore the login screen to look how it did in Feisty? ie. no user list?
[10:50] <PacShady> I did it with two computers easy, now I can find a single reference to it on the net at all
[10:50] <metalspawn> Hey can any1 help me i am using kubuntu 7.10 and i have the error hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options-refused uid 1000. i got ntfs-config but you need 2 run as root (and i don;t know how) PLease HELP :D
[10:51] <PacShady> Anyone at all? Any takers?
[10:51] <metalspawn> And also i downloaded nvidia drivers and same prob need to run as root please help :D ?
[10:52] <PacShady> I can't remember how to do it :'(
[10:53] <metalspawn> Come on :D no1 able to help me quickly ?
[10:53] <sJim> metalspawn: you need to mount your drive
[10:53] <pag> PacShady, edit /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings - make the second line read: THEME="/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu-no-userlist"
[10:53] <metalspawn> yes :D trying
[10:53] <sJim> I googled a script which did it all
[10:53] <PacShady> Thank you :) not the way I did it previously, but if it works it works!
[10:53] <sJim> paste your error to google
[10:53] <metalspawn> ok
[10:53] <Minnozz> why can't I remove knetworkmanager?
[10:53] <metalspawn> let me try
[10:54] <sJim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:54] <kraut> moin
[10:54] <xanax`> is there somewhere a tutorial that explains how to launch the 7.10 Desktop CD - step by step (with lots of screenshots) ?
[10:56] <xanax`> when I reboot on the CD, I can see a menu, I choose the top first item (start or install) but the next screen I get is a prompt that tells me to type HELP ...
[10:57] <metalspawn> sJim: ok lol i am totally new to this sorry i have the site and it says type the following lines blah blah. Should i type it in "Run Command" ?
[10:58] <Thonolan> moin  kraut
[10:59] <piespo> salve
[10:59] <sJim> metalspawn: type "konsole" in run command
[10:59] <piespo> avrei un problemino con samba su kubuntu
[11:00] <metalspawn> sJim:  ok thanks figuring it out :D will see now
[11:01] <piespo> utilizzando la finestrella di host deny dove avevo provato ad inserire * non accedo piu' alle cartelle anche se tolgo * e metto l'ip della macchina da collegare su host allow
[11:02] <obiwan_> @ piespo credo che qui parlino tutti solamente inglese
[11:02] <obiwan_> prova #kubuntu-it
[11:02] <metalspawn> sJim:  ok thanks i can acces it but i can't write any files to it ? that normal ?
[11:04] <sJim> metalspawn: yea, go to system setting, then hit the advanced tab
[11:04] <sJim> there Disk & filesystem
[11:04] <piespo> grazie obiwan
[11:04] <obiwan_> di niente
[11:05] <metalspawn> sJim:  y\k
[11:05] <metalspawn> sJim: K
[11:05] <metalspawn> sJim: k cool have it
[11:05] <metalspawn> let me t3est
[11:05] <Ajzo> is there any program allow u to convert AVI movies to DVD format ? :}
[11:06] <Minnozz> how come Aiccu doesn't start automagically?
[11:06] <metalspawn> sJim: Thanks i ave it . no just one more prob can any1 help me install nvidia drivers
[11:06] <metalspawn> Or run my session as root
[11:06] <metalspawn> The same thinkg
[11:07] <Minnozz> anybody uses Aiccu here?
[11:07] <metalspawn> The setup says i require root acces
[11:10] <obiwan_> Hi Tonio_
[11:10] <Tonio_> hi obiwan_ :)
[11:10] <xenol> how can i use kbfx plz?
[11:10] <obiwan_> is that your real name?
[11:11] <pag> xenol, add it to a panel and enjoy
[11:11] <pag> xenol, of course you have to have it installed first ;)
[11:12] <obiwan_> @ tonio_ it's mine :)
[11:12] <piespo> are there some persone that know samba? (sorry for my english)
[11:12] <mulander> how to run the GUI front-end for managing /etc/apt/sources.list in 7.04
[11:12] <mulander> ?
[11:13] <thomas_> mulander: use adept_manager
[11:13] <Tonio_> obiwan_: what's yours ?
[11:13] <obiwan_> @piespo a client is already installed on ubuntu why?
[11:13] <mulander> I'm on the phone with my gf, and I try to guide her to this menu
[11:13] <thomas_> mulander: but best way is still doing it by hand ;-), thats what I prefer
[11:14] <obiwan_> Your nick is my realname
[11:14] <mulander> thomas_: yeah, try to tell sources entries on the phone :>
[11:14] <Tonio_> obiwan_: almost my real name too :)
[11:14] <tp123> hi all
[11:14] <pag> obiwan_, including underscore? ;P
[11:14] <thomas_> mulander: ask her to send her sources.list file to you, modify it for her and send it back ;-)
[11:14] <skazkin> helo all
[11:14] <pag> !hi
[11:14] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:15] <obiwan_> you don't meet everyday one
[11:15] <tp123> Who speak Russia ))
[11:15] <pag> !ru | tp123
[11:15] <thomas_> mulander: or tell her to go here: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[11:15] <ubotu> tp123: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:15] <obiwan_> no without underscore ;)
[11:15] <skazkin> я)
[11:15] <tp123> sps
[11:15] <tp123> __
[11:15] <tp123> 0)
[11:16] <piespo> I have some problem with perission of host in samba
[11:17] <rand_acs> when firefox32 updates, using it's automatic updater, how do you get it to load all the plugins again? I can see them there, but the browser doesn't pick it up
[11:19] <obiwan_> bye @ all
[11:21] <hilmar> Hey does any one know how to fix my sound in kubuntu
[11:21] <hilmar> ?
[11:21] <agresor> Apache module mod_suexec
[11:21] <agresor> how to install this ?
[11:21] <agresor> please ?
[11:22] <rohan> is there some kde program i can use to convert audio files from one format to the other ?
[11:22] <pag> hilmar, well.. with the information you're giving it's hard to say anything but "unmute it" or "plug the wire"
[11:22] <rohan> some program which is preferably in the ubuntu/debian repo
[11:22] <pag> !info soundkonverter | rohan
[11:22] <ubotu> rohan: soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1888 kB
[11:23] <agresor> Apache module mod_suexec ?
[11:23] <agresor> anyone know something about that ?
[11:23] <pag> !repeat | agresor
[11:23] <ubotu> agresor: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:24] <spiroo> But why have they not been able to fix all bugs yet in kubuntu :'(
[11:25] <spiroo> Kopete is part of KDE I know, but it does not work at all. I just installed a clean copy of the final version, and got a few errors already
[11:26] <pag> spiroo, fix for the kopete is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29
[11:26] <lorenzo_> Ddd
[11:26] <spiroo> And it always says, version upgrade in Adept XD
[11:27] <pag> spiroo, iirc that's also a well-known bug
[11:27] <spiroo> But why has it not been fixed in final version? :P
[11:28] <momal> anyone know where i can report 2 problems with dolphin ?... im pretty sure they would be considered a bug or at least a big problem.
[11:28] <hilmar> oki how did you say I coul fic my sound ?
[11:28] <ScorpKing> !find esd
[11:28] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-esd, kdesdk-dbg, kdesdk-doc-html, kdesdk-scripts, libesd-alsa0 (and 15 others)
[11:28] <spiroo> Anyway, I wonder how to change from Konqueror to Firefox. I mean, I will when I click on links/urls everywhere in Kubuntu I want it to be opening in Firefox not Konqueror.
[11:29] <pag> spiroo, kcontrol -> default apps
[11:29] <ScorpKing> i get /usr/bin/esd not found. what packages is missing?
[11:30] <pag> ScorpKing, esound
[11:30] <ScorpKing> momal: look around on launchpad
[11:30] <ScorpKing> pag: ty
[11:30] <pag> ScorpKing, (or pulseaudio-esound-compat )
[11:30] <ScorpKing> :)
[11:31] <spiroo> Could someone write or send me a link for all known bugs and solutions?
[11:31] <waylandbill> !bug
[11:31] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:31] <rohan> pag: that was wonderful, thanks
[11:31] <pag> np :)
[11:32] <ksivaji> !cervisia
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cervisia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <spiroo> paq: Im sorry to say, but that patch for Kopete you send me does not work
[11:32] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit
[11:32] <pag> !doesntwork | spiroo
[11:32] <chriswilliams> kicker doesn't load on startup, how do I fix this?
[11:32] <ubotu> spiroo: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:32] <waylandbill> !info cervisia
[11:32] <ubotu> cervisia: a graphical CVS front end for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 740 kB, installed size 2016 kB
[11:33] <spiroo> paq: Haha okay sorry, Uhm when I am trying to login it just crashes and send me a crash message.
[11:33] <waylandbill> chriswilliams: load kicker using alt-f2 and then log out and log back in. It should be stored in the session and loaded next time.
[11:33] <pag> spiroo, install that pach and relogin in kde
[11:34] <chriswilliams> waylandbill, I have session's turned off
[11:34] <spiroo> paq: okay, but I have already done that
[11:34] <chriswilliams> is there a way to fix it without turning it on?
[11:34] <spiroo> paq: Or do you mean logout from xsession?
[11:34] <pag> spiroo, yup.
[11:35] <spiroo> okay Iĺl that
[11:38] <waylandbill> chriswilliams: add it to Autostart
[11:38] <waylandbill> !autostart
[11:38] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[11:38] <chriswilliams> waylandbill, ok thanks
[11:40] <julie> bjr
[11:41] <spiroo> paq: Thanks, the patch worked. Hope I have not have to deal with more problems now :D
[11:42] <pag> spiroo, I hope that too :)
[11:43] <roland> why can't i hear a thing since i have changed from Ubuntu to Kubuntu???
[11:43] <Pasar> my usb devices dont seems to work.. whenever i connect a stick/mouse/cam simply nothing happens.. the device will get electricity but i cant find it anywhere on my system (feisty)
[11:44] <kristina> hi, I just installed gutsy. somehow adept locked up (it says another process is using it) tryed pkill adept/aptitude/apt-get with no luck, any ideas?
[11:44] <roland> Kristina: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:44] <pag> !aptfix | kristina
[11:44] <ubotu> kristina: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:45] <roland> some Ideas to my soundproblem?
[11:45] <roland> my Card is a SB Audigy1
[11:45] <ardchoille> !sound | roland
[11:45] <ubotu> roland: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:45] <kristina>  pag, roland: tnx, worked.
[11:46] <Pasar> whatabout my usb problem? noone else seems to have it :-/
[11:46] <pag> Pasar, you could try one thing, though I don't know will it work. add " usb-hadoff " to kernel boot options
[11:47] <pag> usb-handoff that is :)
[11:47] <julie> bonjour es ce ke kelkun peux m aider svp
[11:47] <kaminix> I've installed both mediubuntu's and mplayer's codec pack, but there are still some DivX 5 files I can't play. What else is there to install?
[11:47] <pag> !fr | julie
[11:47] <ubotu> julie: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:47] <Pasar> aaah, that may work, i installed restricted drivers. but where do i change these boot options?
[11:47] <kristina> one last question: why does konversation quit completely and not end up in the right lower corner (sorry I don't know what that's called) when clicking on x?
[11:48] <pag> kristina, does it have tray icon enabled in settings?
[11:48] <flub> Hi.
[11:48] <pag> Pasar, alt+f2 -> " kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst "
[11:48] <flub> I'm trying to isntall 7.10 from the CD, but the installing thing hangs right at the start in step 3, during "Scanning disks".
[11:48] <ardchoille> kristina: Enable the system tray item: Behavior  > General
[11:48] <flub> Could anyone help me?
[11:49] <pag> Pasar, find al line that says (something like) " # defoptions=quiet splash "
[11:50] <ardchoille> kristina: fwiw, that is known as the "tray" or "notification area"
[11:50] <Pasar> found it
[11:50] <Pasar> shall i add to that line?
[11:51] <ardchoille> pag: I believe he's also going to need to edit his kernel line for the current kernel.
[11:51] <pag> Pasar, yup.
[11:51] <pag> ardchoille, " sudo update-grub " will take care of that ;)
[11:51] <kristina> ardchoille: cool thanks
[11:51] <ardchoille> pag: Ah, yes it will
[11:51] <kristina> bye bye
[11:52] <Pasar> so that's what im gonna do next? ;)
[11:52] <flub> Anyone?
[11:52] <titanix88> hey what about gutsy kubuntu?
[11:52] <titanix88> hey what about gutsy kubuntu?
[11:52] <pag> Pasar, yup. save the file, enter that command and (if there will be no errors) boot the computer
[11:52] <Pasar> yeah, all fine. im gonna try now! thanx a lot!
[11:53] <ardchoille> titanix88: What about it?
[11:53] <titanix88> i mean ur experience...:o
[11:53] <titanix88> i mean ur experience...:o
[11:54] <ardchoille> titanix88: Works good here except that I have no tty 1-6
[11:54] <Smorg> hi
[11:54] <ardchoille> !hi | Smorg
[11:54] <ubotu> Smorg: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:54] <Smorg> :-)
[11:55]  * Smorg is upgrading to gusty atm
[11:55] <titanix88> no ctrl+f1-6 tty?
[11:55]  * Smorg is excited!
[11:55] <ardchoille> titanix88: yes, but I have a feeling it will be fixed soon.
[11:55] <spiroo> Does anybody know how to load a module in apache2?
[11:55] <gameplayer> hello
[11:55] <spiroo> I wanna load the mod_rewrite
[11:55] <gameplayer> spiroo: a2enmod ?
[11:56] <spiroo> a2enmod, where?
[11:56] <ardchoille> spiroo: Are you sure it's not already loaded?
[11:56] <spiroo> yes
[11:56] <Smorg> hopefully it goes as smoothly as edgy -> feisty
[11:57] <spiroo> How do I do then?
[11:57] <gameplayer> if the mod is installed, you can load it by typing sudo a2enmod <module_name>
[11:58] <gameplayer> then, restart apache
[11:58] <hilmar> hey how do i  Innstall VLC
[11:58] <hilmar> Þ
[11:59] <hilmar> ?
[11:59] <unclephreak> does anyone in here know anything about video encoding?
[11:59] <pag> hilmar, " sudo apt-get install vlc "
[11:59] <spiroo> okay thanks gameplayer. One more thing, my .htaccess file does not load
[12:00] <gameplayer> mmmhhh...
[12:00] <spiroo> It should point to /var/www/www/default.php inside .htaccess, but it does not work
[12:02] <ardchoille> spiroo: Is that path correct? (www x 2)
[12:02] <hilmar> oki when I  do sudu apt-get install vllc
[12:02] <hilmar> this comes
[12:02] <hilmar> hilmar@hilmar-c52521ee:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:02] <hilmar> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:02] <hilmar> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:02] <hilmar> hilmar@hilmar-c52521ee:~$
[12:03] <ardchoille> hilmar: close adept?
[12:03] <spiroo> Should I look inside sites-enabled or sites-available? Yes the path is correct. I have solved this problem before, but I never know how I fix it XD
[12:04] <martin_> pag: it didnt change much.. my usb mouse is reacting (but too slow to be reasonably used, and thats probably because i had it plugged on startup this time) - my stick is blinking all through the booting but it doesnt show up anywhere :(
[12:05] <pag> martin_, hmm.. dunno then. sorry.
[12:05] <gameplayer> i've got a problem with adept on a fresh reinstall of gutsy, with the home dir kept from my feisty install
[12:05] <hilmar> hey does  any one know how to  run XP while using Linux , can I do  it with Kubuntu
[12:05] <ardchoille> martin_: Anything in dmesg?
[12:05] <xenol> i got problem plazing dvd on gutsy i am missing libdvdcss2 can someone tell where from can i get ti plz?
[12:06] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | xenol
[12:06] <ubotu> xenol: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:06] <xenol> ardchoille: will feisty libdvdcss2 work on gutsy too?
[12:06] <traene> Does someone know the current legal state of libdvdcss?
[12:07] <traene> (in Germany)
[12:07] <martin_> ardchoille: yeah, quite so...
[12:07] <ardchoille> xenol: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/
[12:08] <martin_> ardchoille: it did detect a mass storage device somewhere along the way
[12:08] <martin_> archoille: but it says sth like [   25.012000] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[12:08] <ardchoille> xenol: To answer your question, yes, libdvdcss2 will work on gutsy
[12:08] <mooper> heh, whats the best way to play dvd's on feisty?
[12:08] <ardchoille> !dvd
[12:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:08] <feierfox> hi
[12:09] <xenol> ardchoille: ty
[12:09] <ardchoille> yw
[12:09] <tharun> Hi, why am I getting this error when trying to run the version upgrade *Gutsy beta --> Final*: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[12:09] <hilmar> can't you  run windows XP while using Kubuntu ? :S
[12:09] <feierfox> i want to make a dist-upgrade with the adept manager ... everything works, but then i get an error: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[12:09] <mooper> ardchoille: I already have that installed (libdvdcss2) but vlc wont play DVD's ! :(
[12:09] <martin_> ardchoille: at some point it even says a storage device was registered.. but its nowhere in kde-info or /media/
[12:09] <feierfox> what can i do?
[12:10] <feierfox> editing something in my sourcelist?
[12:10] <ardchoille> mooper: O don't use vlc, I don't know
[12:10] <gameplayer> i've got a problem with adept on a fresh reinstall of gutsy, with the home dir kept from my feisty install. Adept still propose me tu upgrade to gutsy...
[12:10] <Smorg> is there a linux cd emulator like daemon tools?
[12:10] <ardchoille> martin_: does dmesg give a device path (/dev/sda*)? If so, try mounting it.
[12:11] <traene> Smorg: but you can mount iso's, why are daemon tools needed?
[12:11] <mooper> ardchoille: what do you use?
[12:11] <titanix88> smorg:don't know but iso mounting is easy.
[12:11] <Smorg> copy protection
[12:11] <ardchoille> mooper: mplayer, it supports closed captions and vlc doesn't.
[12:12] <spiroo> Would be damn nice if you could right click on an ISO-file and choose mount ;)
[12:12] <Smorg> for emulating copy protected windows game disks on wine using an iso created with alcohol
[12:12] <titanix88> smorg: ?!!!
[12:13] <ardchoille> spiroo: You can write a service menu item to do that or look for one on kde-look.org
[12:13] <Bur3k> a bug in the kvpnc ?  "QString::arg(): Argument missing: Wrong authentication method used. We use "MD5" but peer want "SHA1", this will be fixed., OpenVPN"
[12:13] <Smorg> I broke one of my diablo II install disks but fortunately saved an image :-D
[12:13] <spiroo> okay, but would cause some problems I guess because I do not only wanna mount ISO. I wanna mount all kind of images.
[12:14] <titanix88> smorg:wine can not properly make cd checking games run.
[12:14] <titanix88> smorg:wine can not properly make cd checking games run.
[12:14] <Smorg> @spiroo
[12:14] <spiroo> Like .bin, .cue, .img, .nrg and so on
[12:14] <ardchoille> titanix88: Please don't repeat your posts
[12:14] <Smorg> I had a similar problem with alcohol's format
[12:14] <Smorg> there is a converter you can use
[12:14] <Smorg> pretty easy
[12:14] <neur1> hello
[12:15] <spiroo> Yeye, I just wanna be able to mount them, mostly for watch movies.
[12:15] <martin_> ardchoille: mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:15] <Smorg> titanix: it probably can if you use a perfect 1:1 image
[12:15] <Smorg> I don't see why it wouldn't
[12:15] <titanix88> now repeating?...:o
[12:15] <titanix88> now repeating?...:o
[12:15] <shooood> hi all
[12:15] <Smorg> still repeating
[12:15] <ardchoille> spiroo: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=287   There's tons of service menu stuff there
[12:15] <martin_> ardchoille: also dmesg didnt exactly give me an address
[12:15] <mooper> I get error 12:14:39: xine: couldn't find demux for >dvd:///dev/hda< when trying to play dvd's in kaffeine
[12:15] <Smorg> !iso
[12:16] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:16] <ardchoille> mart:(
[12:16] <ardchoille> martin_: :(
[12:16] <titanix88> now?my damn client:(
[12:16] <Smorg> hm can't remember what its called
[12:16] <ardchoille> titanix88: Looks ok now, thanks for fixing :)
[12:16] <spiroo> thanks ardchoille
[12:16] <Smorg> ah yes cd image conversion :)
[12:17] <martin_> ardchoille: well, at least thats a justification to keep my xp-partition :) thanx a lot anyway!
[12:17] <shooood> pls guys i hanna some help here
[12:17] <ardchoille> martin_: Not every usb device is recognise4d. I had a usb stick that wasn't recognised and I bought a new one, fixed the problem.
[12:17] <shooood> i'm totally new to linux
[12:18] <ardchoille> shooood: What do you want help with?
[12:18] <shooood> i wanna know if i have an open source
[12:18] <Smorg> ZOMG PLOX gief Hlep!1
[12:18] <shooood> how to set it uo from the terminal
[12:18] <spiroo> Would be nice with a GUI like Daemon-tools to mount images. I would be doing it if I could, but I cannot
[12:19] <Smorg> aa yea theres mdf2iso
[12:19] <Smorg> universe repository
[12:19] <shooood> setting up a program
[12:19] <b01ka> How do I enable the DESKTOP EFFECTS in Kubuntu 7.10, so far I had no success
[12:19] <martin_> archoille: well, i tried quite a number of them..
[12:19] <Smorg> emulation and mounting are totally different
[12:19] <Smorg> daemon tools actually emulates the physical hardware
[12:19] <b01ka> can someone help mee?
[12:20] <shooood> let's seeb0lka what is ur VGA model
[12:20] <b01ka> ATI
[12:20] <b01ka> mobility 1400
[12:20] <Smorg> which makes things like copy protected disks possible to run
[12:20] <ardchoille> !ati | b01ka
[12:20] <ubotu> b01ka: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:20] <shooood> u go to System>Desktop Effect
[12:20] <martin_> !usb
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <shooood> it'll ask u to enable driver u have to confirm
[12:21] <Smorg> maybe winehq knows...
[12:21] <shooood> and it'll download the driver then installing it and ask u to restart
[12:21] <b01ka> in System there is no option Desktop effect
[12:21] <stupidgirl> hi I have kubuntu 7.10 and when I plug in my external usb drive it shows under /media/ but when I click on it in dolphn there it wont open, and it says at the bottom of the screen "hal-storage-removable-mount-options refused uid 1000" any1 know how i can fix it
[12:23] <shooood> sorry b0lka under system u 'll find preference then desktop effects
[12:23] <tysonsw> I need a little help.. my computer keps stalling at shutdown.. all I se is the kubuntu window and there it stops
[12:23] <shooood> b0lka does it work ?????????
[12:24] <b01ka> ni preference
[12:24] <b01ka> in kubuntu
[12:24] <shooood> yup
[12:24] <shooood> i guess so
[12:24] <tysonsw> I need a little help.. my computer keps stalling at shutdown.. all I se is the kubuntu window and there it stops
[12:25] <shooood> let me ask first what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu ????????
[12:25] <Lynoure> shooood: Where? I'm looking at System settings, and cannot see desktop effects either?
[12:25] <maverick> is QTparted capable of resizing NTFS drives mounted using NTFS-3g ??
[12:25] <b01ka> KDE
[12:25] <spiroo> KDE4 for the way :D
[12:25] <Smorg> probably the first entry in the faqs
[12:25] <Lynoure> shooood: I thought it was there by default only for Gnome (Ubuntu)
[12:25] <tysonsw> I need a little help.. my computer keps stalling at shutdown.. all I se is the kubuntu window and there it stops
[12:25] <shooood> this's another thing i wanna ask about
[12:25] <shooood> what is KDE and gnome
[12:25] <shooood> ?????????????
[12:26] <maverick> shooood: !KDE
[12:26] <stdin> !kde
[12:26] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[12:26] <maverick> !kde | shooood
[12:26] <ubotu> shooood: please see above
[12:26] <stdin> !gnome
[12:26] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:26] <b01ka> shooood can you aopen a private chat with me?
[12:26] <tysonsw> I need a little help.. my computer keps stalling at shutdown.. all I se is the kubuntu window and there it stops
[12:26] <stdin> shooood: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE too
[12:27] <traene> tysonsw: Did you try hit escape when start seeing the kubuntu window?
[12:27] <shooood> thank u all
[12:27] <tysonsw> traene no
[12:27] <shooood> and b0lka
[12:27] <shooood> i can't open it coz it said am not a regestered member
[12:27] <b01ka> ok
[12:27] <stupidgirl> hi I have kubuntu 7.10 and when I plug in my external usb drive it shows under /media/ but when I click on it in dolphn there it wont open, and it says at the bottom of the screen "hal-storage-removable-mount-options refused uid 1000" any1 know how i can fix it
[12:28] <tysonsw> traene but io got another problem to.. the computer has stoped booting from cd-rom.. I can't boot form my kubuntu cd
[12:28] <b01ka> Kubuntu 7.10 should have by default the desktop effects, if I read correctly?
[12:28] <stdin> b01ka: no
[12:28] <stupidgirl> no b0lka
[12:28] <b01ka> ok
[12:28] <traene> tysonsw: wrong boot order in BIOS?
[12:29] <tysonsw> traene no.. hAVE ALREADY CHECKED THAT
[12:29] <traene> tysonsw: no reason to yell :-)
[12:29] <tysonsw> traene sry.. didn't mean to..
[12:29] <tysonsw> traene I just hit the caps
[12:29] <shooood> i downloaded a cedega program using torrent and i wanna know how to install it
[12:29] <titanix88> shoood: kde & gnome are like different versions of windows with different outlook but same kernel.;)
[12:30] <stdin> !cedega
[12:30] <traene> tysonsw: but there must be some bios output on the screen, to see what it boots and why
[12:30] <shooood> i see that when it ask me to download a 508MB files
[12:30] <b01ka> ok so that you can understand me better, when I loaded kubuntu for the firts time It said something about enabling the ATI proprietary driver; I did this and It seems that the video card works
[12:30] <b01ka> but
[12:30] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[12:30] <tysonsw> traene yeah.. it says it starts the cd.. but then it finds out that kubuntu is already installed and stops booting form cd
[12:31] <shooood> ubotu plz all i want is some one how tell me how to install any program that i have its source
[12:31] <traene> tysonsw: no idea how to help from here, sry
[12:32] <fregl> hi
[12:32] <tysonsw> traene okej.. thanks anyway
[12:32] <stdin> shooood: ubotu is a bot, follow the link it gave
[12:32] <titanix88> shoood:ubotu is a bot:)!!
[12:32] <titanix88> shoood:ubotu is a bot:)!!
[12:33] <traene> tysonsw: maybe you can boot knoppix and delete the kubuntu partition...
[12:33] <shooood> ok
[12:33] <traene> shooood : that depends on the software. Normally configure && make && make install
[12:33] <titanix88> anyone here use reiserfs?
[12:33] <shooood> thanks all guys
[12:33] <chris_> does anyone here use mythtv btw?
[12:33] <maverick> "/media/D device is busy" ....how can i free this device ?!!
[12:34] <traene> chris_: no, vdr.
[12:34] <jussi01> !compile | shooood
[12:34] <ubotu> shooood: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:34] <Lynoure> titanix88: if you have a question about it, just ask. It's quicker than doing a poll first
[12:34] <chris_> traene: whats vdr?
[12:34] <traene> chris_: Video Disk Recorder (I think from Klaus Schmidinger?).
[12:35] <titanix88> what is the advantage over ext3?that's all?:(no poll!:((
[12:35] <titanix88> what is the advantage over ext3?that's all?:(no poll!:((
[12:35] <traene> chris_: Tv without need to install X basically
[12:35] <jussi01> shooood: which program are you trying to install?
[12:35] <stdin> !reiserfs | titanix88
[12:35] <chris_> traene: thanks, can it run in X or not?
[12:35] <ubotu> titanix88: reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html
[12:35] <shooood> cedega and am running ubuntu
[12:35] <traene> chris_: sure, if you install it. its based on Debian
[12:35] <shooood> as i know that cedega program is not free
[12:35] <chris_> ok, final question, will it work with pvr 150?
[12:36] <traene> chris_: there is an c't edition (www.heise.de)
[12:36] <jussi01> shooood: cedega is incredibly hard to compile imho. I would just pay for the pacaged version if i were you.
[12:36] <shooood> so  beside the way to install it i need a way to make it regestered
[12:36] <traene> chris_: dont know
[12:36] <traene> chris_: but there i a wiki too
[12:37] <stdin> shooood: try asking in #cedega
[12:37] <shooood> what is the pacaged version ??????
[12:37] <chris_> traene: thanks for your help
[12:37] <jussi01> shooood: the version yo pay for - that you can install a lot easier and is fully featured
[12:38] <traene> chris_: not for that :-)
[12:38] <shooood> first i don't have money to pay for a prog
[12:38] <shooood> and i guess that linux prog are free of charge
[12:38] <traene> shooood: cause you all invested into that game :-)
[12:38] <maverick> guys, i want to umount one of my drives, but it keeps saying resource is busy, am not using it not opening any folder from it...whta can i do to free it ?!!
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> maverick: are you running some program thats accessing it?
[12:39] <stdin> shooood: to use cedega you have to pay per month, more info in #cedega
[12:39] <traene> maverick : lsof /dev/cdrom maybe?
[12:39] <Lynoure> shooood: it's not expensive, ~15 dollars if I remember. And no, all programs for Linux are not free of charge, even all open source programs are not free of charge.
[12:39] <titanix88> anyone know how to crack cedega?
[12:39] <Lynoure> stdin: not to use, to keep downloading, if I recall right
[12:39] <JackPhil> after upgrade to gutsy, kaffeine-xine always crashing
[12:39] <mooper> when I try to open DVD in any player I get "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device." or similar, any Ideas?
[12:40] <Lynoure> stdin: the version you have gotten, you can keep using till the end of world, if you wish.
[12:40] <stdin> Lynoure: for a subscription, it's completely free if you use the svn version (for testing)
[12:40] <SoulChild> hey all ,.... what does this mean ?? " ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found."
[12:40] <spiroo> One thing i bother me on. Why has i not been fixed, when you ctr+x on a file on desktop and paste it somewhere else. the file on desktop still is there. It just copy the file.
[12:41] <traene> SoulChild: Probably a wrong ACPI implementation of your mainboard
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> SoulChild: is it a fatal error?
[12:41] <SoulChild> nosrednaekim: no, everything works fine
[12:42] <traene> SoulChild: as long as you don't want Acpi-Sleep or something like that I would ignore it
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> SoulChild: if everything thing is working...don'tworry about ACPI errors, probably nothing importatn
[12:42] <SoulChild> traene: okay
[12:42] <stdin> SoulChild: from something I saw a while ago, that's something to do with ACPI (a dump of the acpi code)
[12:43] <traene> SoulChild: for more information have a look into the current Linux Magazin
[12:44] <SoulChild> hwo di i clear all my logs, or force logrote to archive them???
[12:44] <traene> SoulChild lograte --help says: "-f" to force
[12:45] <zmitya> hi all, I have a fully upgraded feisty, but adept does not show the "version upgrade" button
[12:45] <zmitya> why ?
[12:46] <zmitya> trying this
[12:46] <zmitya> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/
[12:46] <flick2> hi, could anyone get compiz running properly with kubuntu? for me the taskbar buttons are not flashing for any applications which are supposed to flash them
[12:47]  * nosrednaekim doesn't know a thing about upgrading
[12:47] <Lynoure> flick2: I haven't tried, but I know others have succeeded, even on ATI radeon X600
[12:48] <flick2> ok
[12:48] <flick2> if anyone could confirm that flashing the taskbar works with compiz enabled, i can then keep trying to fix it
[12:49] <flick2> there could be something wrong with my installation, as it is not a clean install - i installed kubuntu over ubuntu
[12:49] <titanix88> !xfs
[12:49] <ubotu> xfs is a high-performance journaling filesystem originally developped by Silicon Graphics for their IRIX OS. It is now fully supported by Linux so you can install Ubuntu on it if you wish. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
[12:50] <Lynoure> flick2: http://www.revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/173 (about the compiz, for feisty)
[12:50] <titanix88> !filesystems
[12:50] <ubotu> ext3 is the default fileystem in Ubuntu (and many other Linuxes). Alternative Linux filesystems include reiserfs and xfs. fat32 and ntfs are DOS/Windows filesystems. hfs and hfs+ are filesystems for the Mac. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[12:51] <flick2> thanks Lynoure
[12:51] <titanix88> !ext4
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <flick2> you guys don't prefer running compiz?
[12:52] <titanix88> flick2: i do.
[12:53] <flick2> titanix88 for you did the taskbar (minimized) button for any window ever flash (with compiz enabled)?
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> I do as well
[12:54] <titanix88> flick2:normally no. but violently when i tried awn.
[13:00] <Linux_Galore> !artwork
[13:00] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[13:00] <WaltzingAlong> !botabuse
[13:00] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[13:01]  * Jucato scratches his head
[13:01] <Lynoure> WaltzingAlong: hmm? after just one asking?
[13:02] <WaltzingAlong> just any of us can chat with the bot in private chat
[13:02]  * titanix88 askeshow to be an op?
[13:02] <nosrednaekim> nice blog post Jucato
[13:02] <WaltzingAlong> maybe not all know that
[13:02] <Jucato> htnaks nosrednaekim
[13:02] <Jucato> er.. thanks
[13:02] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: there's a less um... threatening trigger for the same factoid
[13:03] <Jucato> !msgthebot
[13:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[13:03] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: ok thanks
[13:03] <Jucato> maybe not all know that too :)
[13:03] <titanix88> stdin:what makes u an op and me not?
[13:03] <WaltzingAlong> seems the text from the bot is then the same
[13:03] <Jucato> titanix88: he was asked and you weren't :)
[13:04] <stdin> titanix88: maybe I killed kittens in a past life and am being punished
[13:04] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: yeah. I just said less threatening trigger :)
[13:04] <Jucato> oh stdin's here... that's my cue
[13:04]  * Jucato disappears in a puff of hexadecimal numbers
[13:05] <Hub441> hi!
[13:05]  * stdin breaks in to the matrix and reconstitutes Jucato from binary bits
[13:05] <spiroo> !hi
[13:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:06] <Hub441> just noticed that most of kdebluetooth configuration dialogues are gone in gutsy/kde-3.5.8 :/
[13:06] <Hub441> actually i can't figure out how to control wich bluetooth services get started and how to allow/deny clients to use them
[13:06] <Hub441> s/wich/which/
[13:06] <titanix88> stdin:u work with who? cannonical,www.irc.freenode.net,linux fondation? get paid?
[13:07] <stdin> titanix88: no, no, no and no
[13:08] <agresor> is it posible to create
[13:08] <agresor> folder in /sys
[13:08] <agresor> :D
[13:08] <vyoman> after yesterdays upgrade I am prompted for a version upgrade again this morning, shall I continue?
[13:08] <titanix88> stdin:then why, how, by who?
[13:08] <WaltzingAlong> vyoman: known issue, skip it
[13:08] <vyoman> thanks
[13:08] <stdin> agresor: you can, but it will be erased after a reboot. /sys is a virtual filesystem, like /proc
[13:09] <stdin> titanix88: I am a member of the community and helped out here, answering questions etc. then I was asked if I wanted to help out by being an op, I said "yes"
[13:10] <agresor> aha oke :)
[13:10] <titanix88> stdin:i know it's offtopic.but plz...for last time.
[13:10] <titanix88> ohh, i get:)
[13:12] <titanix88> stdin:
[13:12] <titanix88> sorry:s
[13:12] <kblin> hi folks
[13:12] <_mika> hi guys, i've a little problem, i open adept manager but it says that another process is already open and until i close it i'll not be able to update anything... the problem is that with a ps aux | grep -i adept (or apt) i haven't any other process...
[13:12] <WaltzingAlong> kblin: greetings
[13:12] <WaltzingAlong> !fixapt | _mika
[13:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:12] <Jucato> !aptfix | _mika
[13:12] <ubotu> _mika: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:12] <WaltzingAlong> ah so close! :D
[13:12] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: losing our touch are wee? :)
[13:12] <Jucato> we*
[13:12] <_mika> thanks :)
[13:13] <WaltzingAlong> apparently
[13:13] <kblin> say, is there any qemu frontent in gutsy that's even remotely as useable as vmware's stuff?
[13:13] <Jucato> !info qtemu | kblin
[13:13] <ubotu> kblin: qtemu: graphical user interface for QEMU. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (gutsy), package size 568 kB, installed size 960 kB
[13:14] <Jucato> !info qemulaunch
[13:14] <ubotu> Package qemulaunch does not exist in gutsy
[13:14] <Jucato> bah..
[13:14] <stdin> !info qtemu
[13:14] <Jucato> stdin: done ^^^
[13:14] <stdin> fine :p
[13:14] <Jucato> !info qemu-launcher
[13:14] <ubotu> qemu-launcher: GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.4-1 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 440 kB
[13:14] <Jucato> I was thinking of that one too ^^
[13:14] <WaltzingAlong> kblin: something sure but maybe not as first-time user friendly as what you have come to expect from vmware
[13:14] <stdin> kblin: best way to find out is to open adept, and search for "qenu"
[13:15] <Jucato> kblin: of course follow stdin, except search for "qemu"
[13:15] <ozehka> Hey, I'm trying to use dolphin/konqueror as ftp-client. On some servers it would give me a login-box, but on some i need to enter the username like "ftp://username@www.server.net"
[13:15] <kblin> stdin: I did an aptitude search qemu, and qtemu didn't show up...
[13:15] <stdin> no, search for qenu, see what it shows :p
[13:15] <titanix88> stdin: i did some translations in launchpad and with surprise i was acknowledged when i ordered gutsy free cds.:D all i did was writing 17 sentences:p
[13:15] <stdin> kblin: take a look at virtualbox
[13:15] <Jucato> kblin: if USB support isn't very much important to you, you can also try virtualbox-ose
[13:15] <ozehka> my problem is that my username is too long and dolphin/konqueror would change it to "us...ame"
[13:16] <stdin> titanix88: every contribution helps :)
[13:16] <WaltzingAlong> ozehka: some probably let you in with anonymous so you could use the username and password like that each time
[13:16] <kblin> besides, it doesn't tell me if it's useable
[13:16] <agresor> why do you oreder free cd's
[13:16] <agresor> when yoy have download
[13:16] <agresor> :S
[13:16] <stdin> ozehka: I think that bug was reported a day or two ago
[13:16] <ozehka> ok
[13:16] <Jucato> kblin: aptitude search only searches by name. since qtemu doesn't have "qemu" in it's name, that's the problem
[13:17] <stdin> agresor: to give out to friends, family and random strangers
[13:17] <ozehka> WaltzingAlong: thanks, it works with anonymous
[13:17] <Jucato> kblin: if you want aptitude search to search both name and description, you need to put ~d before the word, like aptitude search ~dqemu
[13:17] <tekstacy> Is there a utility to convert a bunch of .ogg to .mp3's?
[13:17] <titanix88> agresor: well i currently lack a net connec fast enough:(
[13:17] <agresor> ah ok
[13:17] <agresor> :)
[13:17] <agresor> sorry
[13:18] <kblin> Jucato: arguably, but even if I did my search in adept, it wouldn't tell me about the usability of the interface :)
[13:18] <stdin> kblin: google the packages, find the project website and look at screenshots
[13:18] <Jucato> kblin: of course it wouldn't. would you expect each app to say "the usability of this app sucks" or rocks? :)
[13:18] <ForgeAus> Jucato! :)
[13:18] <Jucato> hi ForgeAus
[13:19] <ForgeAus> good to see you again :)
[13:19] <flub> Ok, I got hung on the "scanning disk" stage because my iPod was plugged in..
[13:19] <Jucato> heh thanks
[13:19] <ForgeAus> and you'll be happy at least this time I have no problem to ask for help with
[13:19] <ForgeAus> (mostly just a social visit)
[13:19] <Jucato> haha :)
[13:19] <Jucato> that's good :)
[13:20] <ForgeAus> the bad side of the news is I've mostly reverted back to using XP as my primary operating system but I still love Kubuntu and have no plans to remove it
[13:20] <Jucato> :P
[13:20] <kblin> stdin: I was going to, but I figured first-hand recommendations would be good as well
[13:20] <crazy_bus> is there a transkode binary anywhere, as  I can't find one in apt
[13:21] <agresor> when the games will be available for Linux... I mean.. installations and graphic support.. etc..
[13:21] <agresor> not with some stupid emoulations..
[13:21] <agresor> It will be cool then: )
[13:21] <ForgeAus> agresor thats the problem developers need to seriously develop games for linux
[13:21] <kudar> anyone experiencing slow wifi with 7.10?
[13:21] <ForgeAus> like Blizzard and and so forth
[13:21] <Jucato> kblin: unfortunately, "first hand recommendations" are alway subjective and personal :)
[13:21] <agresor>  :)
[13:21] <ForgeAus> or at least *nix compatible ones
[13:21] <agresor> ForgeAus,  yeag
[13:22] <nosrednaekim> agresor: doom,neverwinter nights, unreal tournament, americas army... oh yes.. there are games for linu ;)
[13:22] <ForgeAus> platform independant would be a better idea :)
[13:22] <agresor> nosrednaekim,  ?
[13:22] <Jucato> ooh neverwinter nights! that reminds me...
[13:22] <agresor> playing with wine ?
[13:22]  * Jucato does some researching.. laters
[13:22] <agresor> or cedega ?
[13:22] <agresor> it is stupid.
[13:22] <ForgeAus> or xover office
[13:22] <Jucato> it isn't :P
[13:22] <agresor> YOu newer get grapich like on win
[13:22] <stdin> agresor: no, those are native games
[13:22] <agresor> ah
[13:22] <nosrednaekim> agresor: all native
[13:22] <Jucato> agresor: they run natively
[13:22] <agresor> oke :)
[13:22] <kblin> agresor: that's wrong, btw
[13:22] <Jucato> research before you condemn :)
[13:22] <agresor> heh
[13:22] <agresor> :D
[13:22] <kblin> agresor: there's games that run in wine just fine
[13:23] <ForgeAus> Jucato sounds like good advice :)
[13:23] <agresor> i get installed BIND9
[13:23] <ForgeAus> I only wish I took it more often
[13:23] <agresor> and now runing my nameserver
[13:23] <Jucato> haha :)
[13:23] <stdin> most games run better in wine than they do in windows
[13:23] <agresor> listen problem please :D
[13:23] <agresor> it is funny
[13:23] <titanix88> hey anyone know how to reinstall grub after xp install?:(i tried a lot but never succeded. any easy semi noob guide?
[13:23] <agresor> and now i get 2 box
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> and on the open source side, " sauerbraten, tremulous, bzflag, freecol, wesnoth...."
[13:23] <ForgeAus> stdin? interesting
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> !grub
[13:23] <stdin> !grub | titanix88
[13:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:23] <agresor> one is linux kubuntu and other is windows VISTA
[13:23] <ubotu> titanix88: please see above
[13:23] <agresor> and i get NAT connection
[13:23] <ForgeAus> I had trouble getting alot of popcap/reflexive arcade games working in *nix
[13:23] <kblin> stdin: that's really game-dependant
[13:24] <ForgeAus> that and they ALWAYS wanted to change my screen res :(
[13:24] <ForgeAus> so I had to xrandr almost each time
[13:24] <stdin> ForgeAus: a lot of people report better FPS rates than on windows
[13:24] <agresor> can anyone check does my nameserver works propertly ?
[13:24] <agresor>  ???
[13:24] <agresor> or is check of that posible ?
[13:24] <roland_> my soundcard is installed and i can "see", how kaffeine plays a song.
[13:24] <ForgeAus> stdin, for 3d games? sure I can understand that
[13:24] <stdin> kblin: I know, that's why i said "most" :)
[13:24] <roland_> but i can't hear anything :-(
[13:24] <ForgeAus> Linux is more efficient at 3D stuff it seems
[13:24] <stdin> ForgeAus: not just 3d, but yeah
[13:24] <ForgeAus> but I don't play many 3D games
[13:24] <kblin> ForgeAus: please report bugs about those
[13:25] <ForgeAus> kblin I can't be certain they're bugs...
[13:25] <stdin> ForgeAus: linux is generally more efficient with CPU and memory allocation
[13:25] <ForgeAus> one thing I know Bejeweled 2 worked nicely :)
[13:25] <kblin> ForgeAus: if wine doesn't restore your resolution properly, that's a bug
[13:26] <ForgeAus> stdin, possibly I don't know the facts on that one what I do know, is that I don't seem to notice a problem with those things under windows.. probably depends on my application or how critical that issue is to me
[13:26] <ForgeAus> (which is .. as far as I'm aware of ... not very critical)
[13:27] <stdin> ForgeAus: start windows, just after it stops loading open the task manager and look at the memory used. then, do the same in linux ;)
[13:27] <ForgeAus> is gutsy in alpha / beta or an equivalent or is it a major release? (as much as Edgy, Feisty, etc were)
[13:27] <Minnozz> does anybody know how I can let my mobile phone connect to the internet via bluetooth => my pc ?
[13:27] <rami> I cant use limewire since the upgrade, whats wrong?
[13:27] <kblin> which reminds me, are the new closed source ati video drivers worth the disk space?
[13:27] <stdin> it's released, like edgy, feisty, etc
[13:28] <ForgeAus> wow, thats quick
[13:28] <stdin> ForgeAus: 6 month release cycle :)
[13:28] <ForgeAus> seemed like only a month or two ago (although I'm well aware it was much longer) that edgy was the major version at the time
[13:28] <nosrednaekim> kblin: not until the 8.42's
[13:28] <ForgeAus> and fiesty was on its way in
[13:28] <lello> hi to all!
[13:28] <stdin> just wait until Hardy
[13:28] <lello> anyone can help me with a hal problem?
[13:28] <ForgeAus> what happens when they run out of letters and get to zesty zebra?
[13:29] <ForgeAus> or wait is there an animal that starts with X?
[13:29] <stdin> they probably start again
[13:29] <ForgeAus> or an adjective for that matter :)
[13:30] <nosrednaekim> lello: what is the error?
[13:30] <tysonsw> what is the main diference beetwen ubuntu and kubutu
[13:30] <nosrednaekim> !kubuntu | tysonsw
[13:30] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: gnome and kde
[13:30] <ubotu> tysonsw: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[13:30] <nosrednaekim> !kde
[13:30] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[13:31] <stdin> !flavors
[13:31] <ubotu> !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu
[13:33] <lello> nosrednaekim: after upgrade 7.10 from 7.04, can't configure (and start) hal demon
[13:33] <nosrednaekim> lello: try "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[13:34] <lello> nosrednaekim: now I've remove it from system. So I can reinstall and then use this command?
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> yeah... reinstall it.
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> lello: don't ever remove things like that... it can totally ruin your syste,
[13:35] <nosrednaekim> HAL, dbus, kernels are things you don't want to remove
[13:35] <tysonsw> !wifi
[13:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:35] <lello> I now nosrednaekim, but it seem to doesn't finalize installation and also upgrading of all other packages
[13:36] <nosrednaekim> lello: what?
[13:37] <lello> nosrednaekim: when I upgrade some pakages or other application, Adept says that can't commit changes
[13:37] <nosrednaekim> did you reinstall hal?
[13:37] <lello> nosrednaekim: here the output of your command (with some cuts): "invoke-rc.d: initscript hal, action "start" failed." - after starting hal
[13:38] <lello> of course I had reinstall hal
[13:38] <nosrednaekim> lello: ouch....
[13:39] <lello> nosrednaekim: what mean ouch.... 8-(
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> lello: it means "not good at all"
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> lello: whatever you do, don't reboot
[13:39] <tysonsw> does any1 know were I can find wireless drivers??
[13:39] <lello> nosrednaekim: I gues... but there a way to solve?
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | tysonsw
[13:39] <ubotu> tysonsw: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[13:40] <lello> nosrednaekim: also the error at the end of hal install: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[13:40] <ubuntu_> o.o
[13:41] <stupidgirl> hai, how to make something start at startup in kde? like compiz
[13:42] <lello> nosrednaekim: also knetworkmanager can't work, and also kde-desktop
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> lello: erkk I don't know how to fix that...
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[13:42] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[13:42] <nosrednaekim> lello: knetworkmanager relies on HAL.
[13:43] <stupidgirl> oook thanks nosrednaekim  what if i want 2 make it "compiz --replace"
[13:43] <lello> nosrednaekim: any idea?
[13:44] <nosrednaekim> stupidgirl: create a .desktop file in that DIR and make the associated command "compiz --replace"
[13:44] <attunix> What libraries do I need installed to program in GTK?
[13:44] <nosrednaekim> lello: ok...let us try something... try a reboot.
[13:44] <stupidgirl> ook nosrednaekim  thnx
[13:45] <Gerrit> !dvd
[13:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:45] <attunix> !gtk
[13:45] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[13:45] <nosrednaekim> attunix: that would be a question more suitable for #ubuntu
[13:45] <attunix> nosrednaekim: ok
[13:45] <attunix> Gerrit: with mplayer you can play dvds with no codecs
[13:46] <lello> nosrednaekim: I reboot a lot of time. The strange thing is that system is stable and I can use all my USB pendrive and printer
[13:46] <stupidgirl> what do u mean by associated command, nosrednaekim , do i just put that in the file
[13:46] <stupidgirl> sorry im a noob
[13:46] <nosrednaekim> lello: huh....odd, so what doesn't work?
[13:46] <Gerrit> attunix: mplayer says: Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd
[13:47] <nosrednaekim> stupidgirl: get the kcontrol module for autostarting...
[13:47] <lello> nosrednaekim: at this moments nothing but I think it is an important component, or not?
[13:47] <TheKing> Is there something wrong with apt-get?
[13:48] <Gerrit> I'm trying to play a DVD with mplayer. In /var/log/syslog it says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41510/
[13:48] <WaltzingAlong> TheKing: no
[13:48] <TheKing> Ok, I am having problems using it.
[13:48] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | TheKing
[13:48] <ubotu> TheKing: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:48] <TheKing> I will try that.
[13:50] <TheKing> I have a KILL process warning, should I allow it?
[13:50] <WaltzingAlong> sure
[13:51] <plooper> hey, kubuntu keeps freesing up after being up for around 10 mins. Anyone know what could be causing this?
[13:51] <lello> nosrednaekim: so I can use system without this daemon?
[13:52] <nosrednaekim> lello: if everything is orking for you... sure!
[13:52] <nosrednaekim> lello: linux didn't have it for 10 years!
[13:52] <WaltzingAlong> linux
[13:53] <Gerrit> I am trying to read a DVD but I get errors (such as: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41510/ ). However, it has worked once. What can I try?
[13:53] <TheKing> WaltzingAlong: The command you told me hasnt worked. I am not using Adept Manager. I am in a Terminal using the command sudo apt-get install alien, but it stops at connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:54] <WaltzingAlong> TheKing: apt-get, adept, aptitude, synaptic, and the others are, as far as i know, frontends to apt
[13:54] <WaltzingAlong> TheKing: but what you are mentioning is timeouts in connecting to the repository
[13:54] <lello> nosrednaekim: ah ok! I think it is important... but you know a technical forum where I can find some solved problem like this (not ubuntu forums) ?
[13:54] <TheKing> Yes.
[13:55] <TheKing> My Internet Connection is running perfectly.
[13:56] <WaltzingAlong> sure TheKing so it can be other things; use a mirror or try again later or diagnose further
[13:56] <WaltzingAlong> !mirrors | TheKing
[13:56] <ubotu> TheKing: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> lello: no..I don't... but www.linuxquestions.org ussualy has alot of technical people.
[13:56] <aztun> hi
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> !repositoreis
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> !repositories
[13:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositoreis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:57] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[13:57] <aztun> anyone knows when vmware-server package will be avaiable on gutsy commercial repository?
[13:57] <tjohnson> hi there
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> hello
[13:57] <lello> nosrednaekim: thank you very much!
[13:57] <WaltzingAlong> TheKing: sorry i meant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[13:57] <TheKing> Its ok
[13:57] <gnutered> I have a problem with Kubuntu.  I went through the process to install XGL and compiz, and now it seems that even normal X doesn't start the KDE window decorator.  I have since removed xserver-xgl and restarted X but that still doesn't seem to help.  Clues?
[13:58] <gnutered> (this uis Gutsy, on a Dell Inspiron 6400, ATi graphics card)
[13:58] <WaltzingAlong> gnutered: have you also removed compiz-fusion ?
[13:58] <TheKing> WaltzingAlong: I do not want to install Kubuntu over again.
[13:58] <kristina> hi, when I select an image (for example) in dolphin the preview stays that of the folder, even though the actions are the ones of the image. is that a bug or something?
[13:59] <gnutered> WaltzingAlong: no - should that affect the window decorator in standard X?
[13:59] <WaltzingAlong> TheKing: nor do you need to. instead of using us.archive.ubuntu.com you could find others that are close to use at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[13:59] <WaltzingAlong> gnutered: kwin --replace ?
[13:59] <TheKing> But how do I use these mirrors? (sorry kubuntu noob)
[14:00] <ardchoille> aztun: I believe that's in the Canonical repo now
[14:00] <aztun> ardchoille: I cant find it
[14:00] <ardchoille> aztun: Sorry, Canonical > Main
[14:00] <WaltzingAlong> TheKing: read up on changing your sources.list file;
[14:00] <ardchoille> aztun:  http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/
[14:00] <WaltzingAlong> !source-o-matic | TheKing
[14:00] <ubotu> TheKing: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[14:01] <gnutered> WaltzingAlong: there is actually no compiz-fusion package - it looks like it's compiz now.  And I can workaround with running kde-window-decorator, but that's a band-aid
[14:01] <TheKing> Thanks
[14:01] <aztun> ardchoille: when I do "apt-cache search vmware-server" I only the the modules packages
[14:01] <aztun> vmware-server-kernel-modules
[14:01] <WaltzingAlong> aztun: as far as i know it is not yet available in gutsy's canonical repository
[14:01] <ardchoille> aztun: You need to add  "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main" to your sources, then update, then search
[14:02] <aztun> thx ardchoille, gonna try
[14:02] <ardchoille> WaltzingAlong: It's there
[14:02] <WaltzingAlong> ardchoille: thanks
[14:02] <ardchoille> aztun: Want a command to do it all at once?
[14:02] <sn00py> hi! I wanted to find out which network drivers are in use. so I typed in "lsmod". it doesn't show madwifi but "ath_pci". is ath_pci another network driver?
[14:02] <sn00py> i think i need madwifi for aircrack
[14:03] <TheKing> Another noobish question, where is the sources.list file located
[14:03] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?
[14:03] <gnutered> TheKing: /etc/apt
[14:03] <WaltzingAlong> TheKing: /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:03] <TheKing> ok
[14:03] <aztun> Imposible obtener http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[14:03] <aztun> it doesnt work
[14:03] <aztun> :?
[14:04] <TheKing> I cannot write to the file. I do not have the required permisssions.
[14:04] <WaltzingAlong> ardchoille: could not find vmware-server in archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main
[14:04] <WaltzingAlong> TheKing: right, alt+f2; kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:04] <ardchoille> WaltzingAlong: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vmware-server/
[14:04] <aztun> I added this line to sources.list "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main"
[14:04] <TheKing> ok
[14:04] <aztun> but it doesnt work
[14:05] <WaltzingAlong> ardchoille: sure i know it was there for feisty
[14:05] <karthikeyan> SOS help!!!!! I messed up with Kubuntu 7.10 and lost the file /usr/bin/libasound.so.2 , can any one email me that file
[14:05] <aztun> ardchoille: maybe those are packages for gutsy?
[14:05] <WaltzingAlong> karthikeyan: reinstall the package that provided it
[14:05] <ardchoille> aztun: WaltzingAlong has a point, maybe it's there for Feisty but ot for Gutsy
[14:06] <Tstnz> !xgl
[14:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[14:06] <karthikeyan> but how to re install
[14:06] <aztun> karthikeyan: download it yourself
[14:06] <aztun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libasound.so.2&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[14:06] <Tstnz> !xorg
[14:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:06] <karthikeyan> thanks
[14:06] <karthikeyan> I wil lok for it
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks ...64bit Gutsy is "almost" there ...Google Earth works but it's kinda slow. Was reading on Mark shuttleworth's blog that ATI is working to gether some Linux teams to come up with a driver that will finally do the job for most cards sold within the last few yrs ...let's hope this works out
[14:08] <Jucato> aztun: were you trying to install opera?
[14:08] <gnutered> karthikeyan: a better way should be: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libasound2
[14:08] <karthikeyan> ok
[14:08] <karthikeyan> wil try
[14:09] <aztun> Jucato: im trying to install vmware-server on gutsy
[14:09] <Jucato> and the canonical repository is blocking you?
[14:09] <aztun> and I´d like to do it using oficial respos
[14:09] <aztun> not compiling
[14:10] <aztun> I cant find the vmware-server package on canonical repos
[14:10] <Jucato> aztun: remove the archive.canonical.com repository, it's the wrong repo
[14:10] <Jucato> yes, it doesn't have one
[14:10] <gnutered> aztun: I agree - it appears that vmware-server is not yet available in gutsy repos
[14:10] <aztun> so the only solution is to compile
[14:10] <aztun> or wait for the repo upgrade
[14:10] <aztun> :(
[14:10] <Jucato> vmware-server can't be available in the official ubuntu repos, that's why it's in the commercial canonical repos
[14:10] <gnutered> aztun: or just install from the tarball from vmware.com
[14:10] <gnutered> works for me
[14:11] <Jucato> aztun: might be a long wait, but either way, that canonical repo is malformatted
[14:11] <aztun> yea, I know gnutered , I have done it many times
[14:11] <ardchoille> How can I compile my kernel?
[14:11] <aztun> but I prefer commercial repos for easier upgrade later
[14:11] <BluesKaj> where's eagles123 or whatever his nick is ...he knows which site has the vmware server tutorial and the right repos as well
[14:13] <gnutered> aztun: agree.  But even with feisty for some reason I can't remember I used the tarballs over the repos.  I think I had problems getting the packages to work for some reason
[14:13] <Minnozz> How can I discover the 'name' (for in /etc/network/interfaces) of my usb bluetooth dongle?
[14:13] <gnutered> Jucato: the partner repo (replaces the commercial repo) only has opera in it at the moment
[14:13] <Jucato> gnutered: yep
[14:13] <Jucato> I meant the format of his repository
[14:14] <aztun> yes gnutered, Im using partner repo
[14:14] <Jucato> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main --> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner (I think)
[14:14] <aztun> yes Jucato
[14:14] <aztun> thats the line I have on my sources.list
 Imposible obtener http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
 I added this line to sources.list "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main"
[14:15] <Jucato> according to you, it isn't
[14:15] <aztun> yes
[14:15] <aztun> with that lines I get an error
[14:15] <aztun> with this one is works: "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner"
[14:15] <aztun> but cant find vmware-server package
[14:15] <aguitel> anyone use devices with chipset Realtek 8180L ?
[14:16] <ardchoille> aztun: It's not there yet. I gave you the wrong info, sorry.
[14:16] <aztun> no problem ardchoille :)
[14:17] <aztun> ey guys, U know any grafical tool to configure compiz on ubuntu similar to beryl-manager?
[14:17] <aztun> on kubuntu
[14:18] <agresor> why i can not install
[14:18] <tysonsw> i need help with ndiswrapper.. I cnat get it to work
[14:18] <agresor> 7.10
[14:18] <fluffman> !compiz
[14:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[14:18] <agresor> i always get to 82%
[14:18] <agresor> configuring apt...
[14:18] <agresor> Scaning MIrrors... :s
[14:18] <agresor> and it stops there..
[14:18] <fluffman> aztun: follow directions above ^
[14:18] <agresor> i almost brake my pc :)
[14:18] <aztun> I have allready seen that fluffman
[14:18] <tysonsw> i need help with ndiswrapper.. I cnat get it to work
[14:18] <agresor> how can fix that error ?
[14:19] <aztun> but there is no info about gui to configure compiz on kubuntu
[14:19] <fluffman> compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:19] <aztun> thx fluffman
[14:19] <fluffman> it's under K Menu > settings
[14:19] <aztun> gonna try compiz
[14:19] <fluffman> yw, aztun
[14:19] <tysonsw> i need help with ndiswrapper.. I cnat get it to work
[14:19] <aztun> because beryl is too overblooated for me
[14:20] <gnutered> well WaltzingAlong, it seems that removing compiz and then restarting X has made my window decorator happy
[14:20] <aztun> gonna restart X
[14:20] <aztun> see u
[14:20] <aztun> :)
[14:20] <fluffman> aztun: if beryl is bloated, then don't bother with compiz
[14:20] <aztun> why fluffman??
[14:20] <gnutered> WaltzingAlong: so, thanks
[14:20] <aztun> I though is simpler than beryl....
[14:20] <fluffman> it's worse
[14:20] <aztun> isnt it?
[14:20] <fluffman> beryl seemed light and easy
[14:20] <Jucato> beryl no longer exists per se :)
[14:20] <fluffman> compiz WAS lighter, but when they merged compiz got BLOATED
[14:20] <tysonsw> i need help with ndiswrapper.. I can't get it to work
[14:20] <arcade> so, hohum.  How do I get the compiz stuff in 7.10, I wonder. :-)
[14:21] <Jucato> fluffman: I thought you can still opt not to have compiz-extras (w/c is beryl)
[14:21] <aztun> well
[14:21] <aztun> im gonna try
[14:21] <fluffman> aztun: that's the best
[14:21] <Jucato> basically compiz-core is still the original compiz + a few stuff added
[14:21] <fluffman> just try and find out for yourself
[14:21] <Jucato> aztun: if you need help, #compiz-fusion people are willing to offer assitance
[14:21] <tysonsw> i need help with ndiswrapper.. I can't get it to work
[14:21] <Jucato> (or you could try #ubuntu as well)
[14:22] <karthikeyan> Ya sound is working , thanks a lot!
[14:22] <arcade> I feel kind of silly. :)  Just upgraded to 7.10 to try the compiz-stuff, and i'm having trouble finding out where to configure it in kubuntu (the Ubuntu-docs seems to be talking about where in gnome to click)
[14:22] <fluffman> !compiz | arcade
[14:22] <ubotu> arcade: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[14:23] <tysonsw> i need help with ndiswrapper.. I can't get it to work
[14:24] <Jucato> !ndiswrapper
[14:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:24] <Jucato> tysonsw: ^^^
[14:24] <arcade> fluffman: ah. :)
[14:26] <Kenichi> adept crashed in 7.04 and now it closed how to fix?
[14:26] <Jucato> !adeptcrash | Kenichi
[14:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:26] <Jucato> er..
[14:26] <Jucato> !aptfix | Kenichi
[14:26] <ubotu> Kenichi: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:26] <Jucato> ah, adeptcrashfix... *headdesks*
[14:27] <LjL-Temp> !adeptcrash is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:27] <LjL-Temp> !apt-fix is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:27] <LjL-Temp> !adeptfix is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:27] <LjL-Temp> ouch.
[14:27] <Jucato> I could have done that :)
[14:27] <LjL-Temp> i'm not logged in.
[14:27] <Jucato> !adeptcrash is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:27] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Jucato
[14:27] <LjL-Temp> Jucato: yeah but lately i've seen this factoid called in just about every possible (non-working) way :)
[14:27] <Jucato> !apt-fix is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:28] <Kenichi> that crash happens all the time when upgrading to kde 3.5.8
[14:28] <fluffman> RAWR
[14:29] <fluffman> adept keeps telling me a new distro is available
[14:29] <[ifr0g]> hi, how do i find my fully qualified host name ?
[14:29] <fluffman> but apt-get is smarter
[14:29] <fluffman> any ideas on how to make it stop?
[14:29] <Jucato> fluffman: known bug.
[14:29]  * Jucato thinks it will be fixed soon
[14:29] <fluffman> great
[14:29] <fluffman> thanks, Jucato
[14:30]  * fluffman was sitting here changing all of my repos to say feisty, then dist-upgrading again
[14:33] <WaltzingAlong> gnutered: yeah i thought perhaps compiz was still active
[14:33] <Jucato> it is... as compiz-fusion
[14:34] <WaltzingAlong> [ifr0g]: you could use localhost (referring to a setting needed with squid, for example)
[14:34] <bjwebb> what program is good for searching special characters?
[14:34] <Jucato> kcharselect ?
[14:35] <bjwebb> probably
[14:36] <spiroo> How do I install KDE4 Beta 3. Do not link me to that page. I do not understand what I should do after I have installed kdebase-workspace and kde4base-dev.
[14:37] <attunix> Does Gutsy have KDE4?
[14:37] <LjL> no
[14:37] <spiroo> Not built in
[14:37] <fluffman> spiroo: go to that page
[14:37] <fluffman> and actually TYPE what it says
[14:37] <bjwebb> hmmm how can i search?
[14:37] <spiroo> anyway, does anybody know how to do it. fluffman: NO!
[14:38] <fluffman> in TTY, type: export KDE blah blah blah
[14:38] <spiroo> I wanna hear how I should do because I did not do it right last time
[14:38] <Jucato> kde4 **BETA** 3
[14:38] <WaltzingAlong> attunix: no kde 3.5.8 ships with kubuntu 7.10 (gutsy)
[14:38] <WaltzingAlong> in
[14:38] <spiroo> I ACTUALLY did what it says on that page, but does not work, or I did it wrong. PLease help me anyone
[14:38] <Jucato> heheh if you said "with" it would be the other way around :)
[14:39] <fluffman> ok you typed everything spiroo?
[14:39] <Jucato> !doesntwork
[14:39] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[14:39] <spiroo> yes I guess so
[14:39] <WaltzingAlong> thought i corrected quick enough, guess not ;D
[14:39] <sythol> Hallo
[14:39] <fluffman> now, do cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop
[14:39] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: which things did you do? where did you get stuck? what 'does not work'? what were you expecting and what happened instead?
[14:39] <spiroo> Jucato: I know, but it actually does not work.
[14:40] <bjwebb> how do i insertunicode characters using keyboard?
[14:40] <Jucato> what doesn't work? how doesn't it work? what are you trying to do?
[14:40] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: had you installed kdebase-workspace ?
[14:40] <spiroo> I think I did all of them, nothing happened after reboot
[14:40] <fluffman> yes he had
[14:40] <sythol> hi everybody
[14:40] <Jucato> spiroo: you don't need to reboot
[14:40] <spiroo> the export things, how SHOULD I run them?
[14:40] <spiroo> In terminal right?
[14:40] <Jucato> spiroo: to run a single kde4 beta3 app, you need to use Konsole, enter those 4 export commands
[14:40] <Jucato> then run a kde4 beta3 app by name
[14:41] <Jucato> (like dolphin, konqueror, whatever)
[14:41] <acrabuni> alquien habla aqui español
[14:41] <kaminix> How do I enable .svg uploads to my Mediawiki?
[14:41] <sythol> Can somebody tell me how can i install ftp server on my ubuntu 7.10
[14:41] <LjL> !es | acrabuni
[14:41] <ubotu> acrabuni: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[14:41] <Jucato> !ftpd
[14:41] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[14:41] <LjL> sythol: apt-get install yourfavouriteserver
[14:41] <spiroo> okay, should I enter the export lines in terminal?
[14:41] <lil_cain> hello. Just upgraded to gutsy, was able to restart x no problems. When I reboot though, it only gives my virtual ttys, it doesn't seem to bes starting x. Init 5 is just crashing the machine
[14:41] <Jucato> spiroo:in Konsole, yes
[14:41] <sythol> thank
[14:41] <kaminix> !KDE
[14:41] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[14:41] <kaminix> !Kubuntu
[14:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[14:41] <alvor> привет
[14:41] <WaltzingAlong> sythol: also look into sftp access (ftp interface to ssh)
[14:42] <sythol> sftp
[14:42] <acrabuni> alquien de venezuela
[14:42] <LjL> !ru | alvor
[14:42] <ubotu> alvor: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[14:42] <spiroo> What about Xephyr and that things?
[14:42] <LjL> !es | acrabuni, por favor hable ingles aqui
[14:42] <ubotu> acrabuni, por favor hable ingles aqui: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[14:42] <Jucato> spiroo: Xephyr is only for "To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session"
[14:42] <juan_> si
[14:43] <spiroo> Jucato: What actually does that mean then?
[14:43] <Jucato> spiroo: if you want to start kde4 beta3 as a full session. as in a regular kde session/login. but without starting a new X server.
[14:43] <spiroo> I can read on internet, but I do not understand what it actually points to.
[14:43] <Jucato> it will run inside a window
[14:43] <spiroo> okay
[14:44] <Jucato> full session = full, normal, regular, login/desktop session
[14:44] <spiroo> The last thing then, KDE 4.desktop, does not work to edit that file and add those exportl ines
[14:44] <Jucato> Xephyr = allows you to have an X session inside a window
[14:44] <spiroo> okay thanks for clarify that
[14:45] <ardchoille> I can see how that would be useful
[14:45] <juan_> acrabuni i am from venezuela
[14:45] <Jucato> ardchoille: except it doesn't do hardware accelerated stuff. so no fancy effects
[14:46] <MaTiAz> !adept
[14:46] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[14:47] <ardchoille> Jucato: heh, no comment :)
[14:47] <MaTiAz> what were the commands to use if adept crashed and the database was locked?
[14:47] <ardchoille> !adeptfix
[14:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:47] <MaTiAz> ardchoille: thanks
[14:47] <ardchoille> yw
[14:49] <juan_> i am using konversation, where do i fin a list of servers?
[14:51] <LjL> juan_: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/FAQ#Where_is_the_server_list.3F
[14:52] <tysonsw> any1 know a way to install wireless drivers without using wrapper or th ubunutu webside
[14:53] <WaltzingAlong> juan_: you can import mirc's server list
[14:53] <_6502_> hello... after upgrading from faisty to gutsy my soundcard (reported by lspci as an NVidia MCP61) stopped working (with feisty was working fine); any pointers for this problem ?
[14:53] <tysonsw> any1 know a way to install wireless drivers without using wrapper or th ubunutu webside
[14:53] <spiroo> okay now some apps works. How do I do the rest in kde4 beta 3?
[14:54] <_6502_> NVidia MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2), that is
[14:54] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: yes
[14:54] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi > tysonsw
[14:55] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong I have already tried that
[14:55] <bjwebb> what keyboard shortcut will input a unicode character?
[14:55] <VSpike> is krfb protocol compatible with vnc?
[14:55] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: a full session? instructions are at the same site http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[14:55] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: and which wireless chipset do you have?
[14:56] <spiroo> I runned plasma and all programs I had dissapeared, is that correct?
[14:56] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong how do I find that one?? don't remember the command :p
[14:56] <WaltzingAlong> start with lspci in konsole but that does not show the chipset
[14:57] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong done.. now what?
[14:57] <bjwebb> what keyboard shortcut will input a unicode character?
[14:58] <WaltzingAlong> bjwebb: ask google. otherwise repeat no more often than 15 minutes in here. thanks
[14:59] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: find the one referring to your wireless, which is it?
[14:59] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong: 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[14:59] <bjwebb> WaltzingAlong: soory
[15:00] <spiroo> When I started Xephyr and plasma. The taskbar does not show any apps. Should it was that?
[15:00] <baudthief> Is moving from feisty to Gutsy worth the effort?
[15:00] <Jucato> spiroo: yes. that's normal for the *beta3*
[15:01] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: depends on you
[15:01] <spiroo> OKay, can someone explain last step for me? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[15:01] <baudthief> WaltzingAlong: Is it more stable :p
[15:01] <WaltzingAlong> have you had stability problems with kubuntu 7.04? baudthief
[15:01] <spiroo> I have been copy that file but I do not know how I should change name and edit
[15:01] <_6502_> baudthief: i just did, and my soundcard is not working any more, for example
[15:02] <ardchoille> How can I add icons/entries to the location shown in konqueror when I go to "system:/" ?
[15:02] <baudthief> _6502_: gasp, heh - Audigy support in ubuntu is crap as is, I need sound ;\
[15:02] <baudthief> WaltzingAlong: Unsure if its an issue with feisty or not, occasional hiccups - most force me to reboot at least once a day
[15:02] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong: 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[15:03] <tekteen> anyone know how to change the desktop icons that show up on the kubuntu live cd?
[15:03] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: no luck diagnosing it?
[15:03] <spiroo> How do I start an application in plasma?
[15:03] <_6502_> baudthief: hehehe... consider that i passed from debian to ubuntu because the live cd of feisty was seeeing my soundcard with no problems...
[15:03] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: give google a query of that plus ubuntu
[15:04] <ardchoille> tekteen: You realise that any changes you make to the live session will be gone when you reboot, right?
[15:04] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: otherwise seems you can use bcm43xx
[15:04] <tekteen> yes
[15:04] <baudthief> WaltzingAlong: I've had many issues I've tried getting help with to no avail - It's been a painful transition from Windows to Ubuntu heh :p
[15:04] <tekteen> I am modifing before burning
[15:04] <juan> my kopete crashes all the time when trying to connect to msn
[15:04] <baudthief> even with the instabilities, I find it far better to use
[15:04] <_6502_> juan__: it's a known problem, google for it
[15:04] <ardchoille> juan: Mine does too.
[15:04] <tekteen> I can change it when it start
[15:04] <spiroo> Anyone? Is KDE4 Beta 3 okay to test or does it get problem?
[15:04] <Roberuto> juan google for kopete beastie
[15:05] <juan> ok
[15:05] <Jucato> juan: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/153500
[15:05] <Roberuto> yea that one
[15:05] <Jucato> spiroo: it gets problems, specially if you don't know how to use it properly yet
[15:06] <tekteen> ardchoille: have you ever modified the cd before burning?
[15:06] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit
[15:06] <baudthief> Is that "false start" problem solved in KDE4? lol
[15:06] <spiroo> Okay, I guess it would be smarter if I wait then :P But it should be done in december right?
[15:06] <azuk> whee, I finally managed to install kubuntu.  is there some graphical thingamabob for configuring grub so that I can get rid of splash permanently?
[15:06] <Jucato> hopefully
[15:07] <spiroo> To bad that the graphics in KDE4 is uglier than KDe 3.5 :D
[15:07] <baudthief> spiroo: damn lol
[15:07] <miir> luu
[15:08] <tekteen> anyone here know how to modify the live cd?
[15:08] <ardchoille> tekteen: No
[15:08] <tekteen> ok
[15:08] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: kde4beta3; not meant as final or ready for non-dev use
[15:08] <miir> having trouble configuring Kopete =( , is there an alternative way to add a new account rather then having to through the settings tab ? Pehaps through the terminal ?
[15:08] <spiroo> I just want a clean desktop without the ugly grey color. Like glas look like Vista kind a, but sometimes it just get to much. KDE is so blurry :D Can I change myself?
[15:09] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: but play and enjoy, then give the detailed feedback to the dev team
[15:09] <spiroo> okay :)
[15:09] <Jucato> spiroo: the artwork for KDE 4 is far from finished
[15:09] <spiroo> i guess so
[15:09] <juan> azuk to get rid of bootsplash you have to configure your /bott/grub/menu.lst
[15:09] <spiroo> I really hope they will compile the new Kopete version into KDE4 when release
[15:09] <baudthief> oh man, Portal / HL2 ep 2 very nearly ALMOST run perfectly under wine
[15:10] <baudthief> except for the weird changes in hue every second.
[15:10] <baudthief> like everything turns green, then purple, then red
[15:10] <baudthief> lol
[15:10] <spiroo> Kopete is the only msn-IM that works kind a.
[15:10] <Jucato> spiroo: they will. but it's a straight, no new features added port from KDE 3 to KDE 4
[15:10] <miir> The prblem I have is that when I open settings , the first tab that opens is the webcam configuration and because my webcam won't work atm kopete just crashes ... meaning I can't add new accounts such as MSN , IRC and so on
[15:10] <Jucato> so don't expect any fancy new feature yet
[15:10] <spiroo> Jucato: :(
[15:10] <miir> anyone have a good solutino ?
[15:10] <spiroo> Jucato: I does not want any fancy features. I jsut want it should work
[15:10] <Jucato> spiroo: the previous plan was not to have Kopete for KDE 4.0 yet (just use KDE 3)
[15:11] <Jucato> they were going to wait for KDE 4.0.x or 4.1.. but then decide to try and make it for 4.0
[15:11] <azuk> juan, ok, thanks.  if I have to edit things manually, I think I rather install lilo which I'm familiar with
[15:11] <spiroo> Jucato: Okay :P I hope they solve the problem with file sharing then :)
[15:11] <_6502_> hello... after upgrading from feisty to gutsy my soundcard (reported by lspci as an NVidia MCP61 High Definition Audio rev a2) stopped working (with feisty was working fine); any pointers for this problem ?
[15:11] <juan> azuk you could do it by typing in the termina, : sudo pico /boot/grun/menu.lst
[15:12] <juan> azuk and delete quiet splash  in
[15:12] <spiroo> Files has been a problem in Linux. Does not work properly to send files from drive to drive or send from drive to internet and so on.
[15:12] <juan> azuk
[15:12] <juan> title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[15:12] <juan> root            (hd0,0)
[15:12] <juan> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=d0dfaf77-40c1-40dd-965e-576463249161 ro quiet splash
[15:12] <juan> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[15:12] <Jucato> miir: you can ask in #kopete if there's a dcop command to add an account
[15:12] <juan> quiet
[15:12] <Jucato> !flood | juan
[15:12] <ubotu> juan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:13] <spiroo> I hope more stablelizing will be in the future.
[15:13] <miir> Jucato: thx =)
[15:13] <LjL> juan: deleting "quiet splash" *there* is not a good idea, because next time grub-update is invoked, they would be restored. it should be edited, rather, in the commented-out "kopt" line
[15:13] <juan> sorry guys, didn't know that was going to happen
[15:13] <Jucato> spiroo: don't expect KDE 4.0 (emphasis on the .0) to be exactly 100% polished or finished
[15:14] <spiroo> Jucato: I dont, I hope
[15:14] <Jucato> spiroo: KDE 4 will be a long series of releases, from KDE 4.0 to KDE 4.1 to KDE 4.2 etc
[15:14] <LjL> or anything close to working :P
[15:14] <juan> LjL that's what i normally do and i haven't had any problems so far
[15:14] <spiroo> Jucato: Of course it will be
[15:14] <Jucato> LjL: it's actually working fine except for Plasma
[15:14] <LjL> juan: that's probably because you haven't yet upgraded your kernel
[15:14] <LjL> Jucato: which used to be the most hyped part :)
[15:14] <Jucato> overhyped
[15:14] <Jucato> and sadly
[15:15] <spiroo> I hope for better solutions, not more features. Why wanna be Vista with plastic, toolbars and gadgets?
[15:15] <juan> LjL yes, you are totally right, everytime there is a kernel upgrade i have to do it again
[15:15] <juan> i don't know any other way
[15:15] <azuk> juan, I'll manage, I'm just learning all this ubuntu GUI stuff so I was hoping there would have been a way to configure these things via system settings or something like that
[15:15] <Jucato> spiroo: it's not wanna be Vista. and the features *are* the solutions
[15:16] <spiroo> Just want a clean OS, not a grey oldschool one though. You can do a nice looking one without all special effects.
[15:16] <Chairman_Wow> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade to 7.10. Can't get the "version update" button to appear on adept.
[15:16] <Jucato> spiroo: if you are already judging it by how it looks, I'm afraid you've missed the whole point
[15:16] <boubbin> klipper keeps opening the pop-up menu when i select url in firefox addressbar, i have set that it wont affect firefox and firefox-bin etc in klippers settings, but still, how can i fix this ?
[15:16] <spiroo> Jucato: It is wanna-be-Vista :D
[15:16] <ardchoille> Jucato: lol
[15:16] <LjL> juan: where it says "additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the alternatives" : # defoptions=quiet splash
[15:16] <abe> a doubt in kde4, i need to put the "exports" line at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde but, is really at the top? of a couple line later
[15:16] <spiroo> Jucato: Whats the point then?
[15:17] <Jucato> the point is: you should research and read and inform yourself
[15:17] <Jucato> and "don't judge a book by its cover"
[15:17] <ardchoille> s/don't/never/
[15:17] <Jucato> anyway, offtopic for here :)
[15:17] <spiroo> Yes I know that. But the core is not the best either.
[15:17] <spiroo> okay sorry
[15:18] <Jucato> spiroo: how do you even know the core is not the best? all you've been complaining about is how it looks!
[15:18] <LjL> Jucato: you don't judge the *contents* of the book, but you do judge the *usability* of the book-object itself - how likely pages are to break off, etc :)
[15:18] <ardchoille> spiroo: At least it doesn't support every virus/worm/trojan on the planet :)
[15:18] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: better features such as?
[15:18] <Jucato> LjL: you judge a book based on its entirety. the best bound book is useless if it contains 1 letter per page
[15:18] <Jucato> :)
[15:18] <spiroo> The only feature I want is that all things should work.
[15:19] <Jucato> it will. you're judging it too much based on how it looks and on a beta release
[15:19] <_6502_> spiroo: especially the soundcard :-)
[15:19] <LjL> Jucato: and the best written book is very annoying if every page of it just flies free in the air as soon as you try to open it
[15:19] <ardchoille> spiroo: You can't guarantee that in any operating system, sorry
[15:19] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: which things? which things do you use? connecting printers and printing right away? or video cards and proprietary drivers or what?
[15:19] <Jucato> LjL: hence "in its entirety" :)
[15:19] <Jucato> binding, contents, cover, etc.
[15:20] <Jucato> anyway, I'm gone
[15:20] <swanfl> hi, where do i get help with kde4 beta 3?
[15:20] <LjL> Jucato: also, if you get a new bookcase that doesn't fit your old books in well or at all, you won't be happy :)
[15:20] <spiroo> Sound, Graphics, Standards (Not create new ones), better Office like KOffice, Network support should be better, Photoshop or anything which has the same GUI would be great, Something like Daemon-Tools, better torrent-tools and so on ....
[15:20] <baudthief> swanfl:  you don't lol
[15:20] <Jucato> "Standards (Not create new ones)" hahahha!!!
[15:20] <LjL> spiroo, you're talking about applications there mostly, not KDE itself
[15:20] <ardchoille> swanfl: #kde ?
[15:20] <kukman> How I can see the list of deamons?
[15:21] <LjL> kukman: system administration / system services
[15:21] <Jucato> kukman: you can press Ctrl+Esc to see all running processes
[15:21] <LjL> in kcontrol (not sure in system settings)
[15:21] <Jucato> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services
[15:21] <Jucato> kukman: ^^^
[15:21] <spiroo> Jucato: I mean follow "standards" like the ones on the market like Flash, MP3 for instance.
[15:21] <LjL> AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[15:21] <LjL> sorry
[15:21] <LjL> spiroo don't ever say that again. please!
[15:21] <Jucato> spiroo: what are you talking about?
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: ok so that is a quick overview, how about one layer deeper with it all? what else? how so?
[15:22] <_6502_> is there a way in gutsy to downgrade just alsa back to what feisty was using ?
[15:22] <dagulag> how can i use compiz on kubuntu 7.10????
[15:22] <spiroo> It does not support them fully I mean in OS
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: i asked what spiroo desired of kubuntu (rather than just pretty vista-wanna be stuff)
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> dagulag:
[15:22] <Jucato> spiroo: 1. that has nothing to do with KDE. 2. those are proprietary and not ISO standards.
[15:22] <Jucato> !compiz | spiroo
[15:22] <ubotu> spiroo: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled) by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[15:22] <swanfl> how do i run programs in beta3?
[15:22] <LjL> spiroo: those are not "standards", those are proprietary stuff that's mostly patented and/or kept secret, with third-party implementations being highly discouraged and disadvantaged
[15:23] <Chairman_Wow> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade to 7.10. Can't get the "version update" button to appear on adept.
[15:23] <spiroo> Do we speak of Kubuntu overall or KDE? A little bit confused here :D
[15:23] <Jucato> spiroo: you were talking about KDE 4 weren't you?
[15:23] <LjL> WaltzingAlong: you aren't a bot are you?
[15:23] <Chairman_Wow> can anyone help?
[15:23] <abe> swanfl: i am wondering the same
[15:23] <WaltzingAlong> LjLno
[15:23] <flaccid> !anyone
[15:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:24] <Jucato> flaccid: he already asked ifyou haven't noticed
[15:24] <spiroo> LJL: It was why I wrote "standards" and not standards.
[15:24] <flaccid> i was expecting a better factoid
[15:24] <WaltzingAlong> LjL: just have quick ways to put some things in the channel (was very helpful for when 7.10 was released and the bots were down or extremely slow)
[15:24] <flaccid> like 'someone will help if they can'
 Sound, Graphics, Standards (Not create new ones), better Office like KOffice, Network support should be better, Photoshop or anything which has the same GUI would be great, Something like Daemon-Tools, better torrent-tools and so on .... <---- no you didn't say "Standards" :)
[15:24] <LjL> spiroo: well, then perhaps i misunderstood you - but if you're looking for support for those "standards", that has little to nothing to do with KDE 4
[15:24] <spiroo> KDE and Kubuntu is quite tight up I guess.
[15:25] <LjL> WaltzingAlong: i see, i just hope you aren't triggered by ! :)
[15:25] <swanfl> why is there no K menu in beta3?
[15:25] <Jucato> Chairman_Wow: have you made sure Pre-released updates is enabled in Adept?
[15:25] <flaccid> ubuntu prod = beta software :p
[15:25] <WaltzingAlong> LjL: :D
[15:25] <Jucato> swanfl: short answer there really isn't one
[15:25] <WaltzingAlong> flaccid: all software = beta software?
[15:25] <LjL> spiroo, Kubuntu uses KDE, but they're definitely separate entities... stuff like MP3 and Flash is to be supported (or not) by Kubuntu, not by KDE
[15:25] <swanfl> hi Jucato nice to see you
[15:25] <flaccid> no it doesnt
[15:25] <spiroo> Okay, hmm I guess we kind misunderstood each other here. Mostly from my side I guess.
[15:25] <swanfl> so in order to beate test this, I have to know the program names?
[15:26] <swanfl> beta*
[15:26] <WaltzingAlong> swanfl: sure or you can run a full session
[15:26] <Chairman_Wow> Jucato: didn't think you had to do that.
[15:26] <Jucato> spiroo: and specially we try not to support proprietary, non-open "standards" (which are only standards because of massive usage, not by any technical standards)
[15:26] <Jucato> Chairman_Wow: if you followed the guide, you'd see that you have to :)
[15:26] <swanfl> WaltzingAlong, I am running a full session
[15:27] <swanfl> it finally shows a taskbar, but i can't do a thing with it
[15:27] <Chairman_Wow> Guide says "Enable the "Recommended updates" and "Proposed updates" repository, close and reload"
[15:27] <Jucato> Chairman_Wow: which guide?
[15:27] <Chairman_Wow> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[15:27] <Jucato> Chairman_Wow: yeah propsed = pre-release
[15:27] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: so we need to rethink the details in the layer of abstraction we want users to use and know?
[15:28] <miir> My USB-drive (Harddrive 320gb) does no mount when I plug it into the computer , as it used to do under Ubuntu... I hear the drive spin up but nothing happens ... any ideas ?
[15:28] <abe> swanfl: where do you put the exports lines in startkde? at the top? i mean before trap 'echo?
[15:28] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: huh? what?
[15:28] <spiroo> But I mean like better support for bittorrent, graphics(ps, illustrator, 3d), video (.avi, quicktime, realtime, Windows-shit (I know they suck, but they is there in this world)).
[15:28] <Chairman_Wow> Jucato: Ok, thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[15:28] <Jucato> again, those are not KDE's areas of concern (at least not directly)
[15:28] <swanfl> right after #!/bin/bash, directly after
[15:28] <abe> swanfl: ok , thanks
[15:29] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: the overall view/picture of what is going on with desktop computing via kde or kubuntu;
[15:29] <swanfl> also, have they removed the use of the Autostart folder in kde4?
[15:29] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: no. but he was barking on KDE having to support this or that. at least he should be informed properly
[15:29] <abe> swanfl: are you in kde4 right now?
[15:29] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: ok so basically an ms windows that is not from ms nor is windows is what you want?
[15:30] <swanfl> in vmware, yes
[15:30] <kukman> How I can see the opened sockets ?
[15:30] <Jucato> specially if he keeps on insisting that KDE *must* support these "standards" and features
[15:30] <abe> i will gonna try it
[15:30] <spiroo> Some problem in KDE: Languagesupport (Although it is good), the task bar could be done better, windows should autoresize after the content, better support for the graphiccards against the graphics.
[15:30] <kaminix> What does this error mean? ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[15:30] <kaminix> I was on just now, just exited to get color prompt. :s
[15:30] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: i asked what he wanted or what was missing, yeah
[15:30] <Jucato> spiroo: the first 3 are actively worked on. the last one is more a Linux driver problem
[15:31] <spiroo> WaltzingAlong: Just to make it clear: I HATE Microsoft and Windows, especially Vista
[15:31] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: basically he wants stuff that KDE itself cannot provide or does not handle
[15:31] <Jucato> oh yes, and with that hate comes the mentality of "anything shiny = wannabe Vista"
[15:31] <abe> i am in kde4 :)
[15:31] <swanfl> ok
[15:31] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: and part of the 'kde' this or kubuntu that or ubuntu this, is for some more confusing that it needs to be. technical details that desktop users really need not know
[15:32] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: it's a case to case situation. I don't always try to inform users
[15:32] <WaltzingAlong> i was hoping to use it as a view from the outside, not so much as a platform to explain details
[15:32] <abe> but theres no menu
[15:32] <spiroo> Jucato: Haha no, anything shiny != Wanna Be Vista. It is the look and feeling. Moslty the glas effects and transaprent things.
[15:32] <abe> jaja
[15:32] <Jucato> ok...
[15:32] <Jucato> oh yes, and with that hate comes the mentality of "anything shiny, transparent, or glassy = wannabe Vista"
[15:32] <WaltzingAlong> hm which came first ... compiz or vista ...
[15:33] <Jucato> (despite the fact that compiz was before aero)
[15:33] <swanfl> the average dumb user is gonna want a menu
[15:33] <Jucato> swanfl: there will be a menu!
[15:33] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: exactly
[15:33] <swanfl> I guess I should wait till the official release?
[15:33] <Jucato> a beta3 is not exactly something the average dumb user is gonna want to setup and use on his own
[15:33] <abe> i have a problem ith plasma, plasma appletexplorer not find
[15:33] <swanfl> i found that too abe
[15:34] <Jucato> abe: hm. yes that's an old bug... I thought I had that fixed before beta3
[15:34] <Tm_T> abe: thats what you get with unstable ;)
[15:34] <Jucato> (or rather poked aseigo to fix it)
[15:34] <spiroo> Jucato: Does not matter, Microsoft is so big so the thing is that Vista SHOWS more on peoples computers. It get more attention. I does not say Vista (Aero) was first.
[15:34] <WaltzingAlong> swanfl: :D no need to jump to dump but sure i know plenty of desktop computers that consider the computer to have an application so long as there is an icon to it (shortcut) on the desktop (ie not considering the menus as a way to get to them and certainly not considering typing names to start them)
[15:34] <DaNi`M1> hello, in kubuntu, who command is same function than gksudo in ubuntu?
[15:34] <WaltzingAlong> DaNi`M1: kdesu or kdesudo
[15:34] <Tm_T> !kdesudo
[15:34] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[15:34] <Jucato> spiroo: that's the implication of "wanna be Vista". that Vista was first and everything else is trying to copy
[15:34] <Jucato> either way this has gone offtopic too much
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: but that is similar to linux this and that when most of gnu was first
[15:35] <Tm_T> Jucato: I was just coming to that =)
[15:35] <DaNi`M1> WaltzingAlong: thanks :)
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> !ot :D
[15:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:35] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: if you say so. I stopped arguing 5 seconds ago
[15:35] <spiroo> Okay, Sorry "Vista-Feeling" then :D
[15:35]  * WaltzingAlong had not been arguing
[15:35] <abe> !plasma
[15:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:35] <Jucato> if you prefer not to educate some users when the opportunity arrives, so let it be
[15:36]  * Jucato shuts up now
[15:36] <DaNi`M1> WaltzingAlong: kdesu wine '/home/millen/.wine/drive_c/Archivos de programa/Adobe Photoshop CS2/Photoshop.exe'
[15:36] <DaNi`M1> is good?
[15:36] <LeeJunFan> ugh, I can't believe anyone would think dolphin a better filemanager than konqueror.
[15:36] <spiroo> Anyway, does anybody know if Photoshop will be arriving for Linux?
[15:36] <WaltzingAlong> you need kdesu for that? should be able to do that with just wine
[15:36] <LjL> DaNi`M1: why on earth would you run wine with kdesu?
[15:36] <swanfl> I'll stick to 3.5.8 thank you very much
[15:36] <Jucato> !d3lphin | LeeJunFan
[15:36] <ubotu> LeeJunFan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[15:36] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: ask adobe
[15:36] <LjL> spiroo: i doubt it.
[15:36] <DaNi`M1> WaltzingAlong: without kdesu not run...
[15:36] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: that is not the real dolphin btw
[15:37] <WaltzingAlong> DaNi`M1: then you may have installed photoshop incorrectly into wine, perhaps using sudo or kdesu for that?
[15:37] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: I know, I'm just saying there are so many reasons to like konqueror more.
[15:37] <DaNi`M1> incorretly?
[15:37] <DaNi`M1> i installed wine with sudo...
[15:37] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: if you've tried the real Dolphin in KDE 4, some of those reasons would disappear (but I still love Konqueror more)
[15:37] <abe> mmm someone use konqueror as a browser?
[15:37] <LeeJunFan> dolpin takes up too much real-estate on the screen with crap when you are working on 1024x768.
[15:38] <LjL> DaNi`M1: did you install *photoshop* with sudo?
[15:38] <spiroo> There is a huge questioning about that. Is the applicaiton most users want to have and the strongest thing people is stick with Windows. Even me. I should dump Windows here and know if I got Photoshop CS 3 would work.
[15:38] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: yeah, that one's better. Still - I'm with you on konq.
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> DaNi`M1: sure sudo aptitude install wine       but once wine is on there, to install photoshop, wine setup.exe
[15:38] <DaNi`M1> LjL I install photoshop import registers of windows
[15:38] <LjL> LeeJunFan: uh? one of the reasons i use dolphin is precisely because it tends to be much smaller - much more like old-style Mac Finder or Amiga Workbench
[15:38] <LjL> DaNi`M1: eh?
[15:38] <spiroo> I never got Photoshop get working fully in wine.
[15:39] <DaNi`M1> i not install photoshop with wine automatically
[15:39] <LjL> DaNi`M1: you've copied your Photoshop folder from Windows?
[15:39] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: i had photoshop 7 working with wine
[15:39] <DaNi`M1> i install photohop copy/paste of windows and import they registers
[15:39] <LjL> that will hardly work.
[15:39] <DaNi`M1> key registers
[15:39] <LjL> DaNi`M1: anyway, sudo chown -R your-user-name:your-user-name ~
[15:39] <spiroo> Working yes, but did it work all the way?
[15:40] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: of course
[15:40] <VSpike> how can I control which sound device the adobe flash plugin will use?  Does it use OSS or alsa?
[15:40] <DaNi`M1> mmmmmmmm, ok LjL
[15:40] <DaNi`M1> i try
[15:40] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: what do you do that you want to use photoshop cs3? graphic designer?
[15:41] <spiroo> Anyway, The new CS versions of Adobes popular apps has some features, MANY that the previous versions cannot handle
[15:41] <shadowhywind> hay all just a quick question, when ever i used kdesu i keep getting this error Error: "/tmp/kde-shadowhywind" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Any ideas?
[15:41] <Jucato> shadowhywind: known bug
[15:41] <Jucato> they're trying to fix it...
[15:42] <spiroo> I want good color support, good GUI, good vector support, good text support and so on ...
[15:42] <shadowhywind> oh k, so just ignore it at the moment then. *Doesn't seam to cause any issues for me *
[15:42] <Kachna> buds,can i configure kopete to ever blink if there are unread events? i mean, if i have unread stuff and exit kopete,it's impossible to find out who wrote me :/
[15:42] <Jucato> it shouldn't (much)...
[15:42] <spiroo> I mostly do websites in Photoshop, but even editing Photos as well.
[15:43] <Jucato> spiroo: just wondering, have you tried Krita?
[15:43] <spiroo> Yes
[15:43] <spiroo> I am allergic to the GUI
[15:43] <Jucato> the GIMP?
[15:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> then your other choice is the GIMP
[15:43] <spiroo> yes
[15:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[15:43] <spiroo> no
[15:44] <Jucato> hm... really? Krita's GUI is closer to Photoshop than GIMP's... :)
[15:44] <Jucato> oh well...
[15:44] <Jucato> different strokes for different folks
[15:44] <spiroo> Krita is better, yes
[15:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> for certain values of better
[15:44] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: krita is better at matching photoshop's interface?
[15:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> and even then that's *very* subjective
[15:45] <spiroo> I mean they is not bad. But they have a GUI I cannot work good with.
[15:45] <Jucato> yeah it takes getting used to. specially if you try to see everything in the standards of Photoshop...
[15:46] <spiroo> It is also about the functions, not only the GUI. I am not shallow
[15:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> if it's about the functions, you wouldn't have a problem with the gimp.
[15:47] <Jucato> or the GUI...
[15:47] <Jucato> bah nvm :)
[15:47] <spiroo> Yes I am quite sticked and in love with PS. But the GUI in GIMP and Krita, No I do not like it.
[15:47] <WaltzingAlong> well there can become a 'known way to interface' with certain systems; how many use something other than a steering wheel in automobiles, for example
[15:47] <Jucato> but I thought it's about the functions :)
[15:47]  * Jucato really leaves now
[15:47] <WaltzingAlong> it was when my other argument was not working
[15:48] <spiroo> yes also they is a problem, especially layer support.
[15:48] <spiroo> It is not easy to work with layers and vectors as it should be. Which I think Photoshop has.
[15:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's not as easy as *you think* it should be.
[15:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> all subjective.
[15:49] <spiroo> Maybe I guess
[15:49] <ubuntu> l
[15:50] <spiroo> But Photoshop is a really good application. It is used by people all around the world. You cannot argue against that. But yes Krita is a bit of getting better.
[15:51] <spiroo> And I hope you do not think I am thinking the applications in Linux is bad. They are good, but not as good I want it to be.
[15:52] <LeeJunFan> I prefer gimp to krita still.
[15:52] <speed89> ciao
[15:54] <spiroo> anyway have to go, cya laters bros
[15:55] <abe> !es
[15:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:56] <WaltzingAlong> for whom?
[15:56] <abe> the es thing?
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> yup
[15:57] <abe> for me
[15:57] <abe> :)
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> wondered if i was lagged
[15:57] <abe> lol
[15:58] <agresor>       The Apache module mod_actions is either not installed or not enabled.
[15:58] <agresor> anyone know how to enable this ?
[15:58] <xushi> hi all,
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> a2enmod agresor
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> !hi | xushi
[15:58] <ubotu> xushi: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:58] <wastedfluid> Hey, is the version of kmil that comes w/ 7.10 kmilo-4.3.5-8-0?
[15:59] <xushi> how stable is kubuntu on vmware (6) ? I find programs in it always stopping to respond, like eclipse updater etc.. even the system panel sometimes..
[15:59] <xushi> it just tries to open, with that busy bar, and that's it.. hangs there
[15:59] <agresor> WaltzingAlong,  what is it name there..
[15:59] <agresor> it is not mod_action
[15:59] <WaltzingAlong> agresor: actions
[15:59] <abe> eclipse ? i never try that, mmm i gonna try
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> a2enmod then tab tab to see the list
[16:01] <agresor> WaltzingAlong,
[16:01] <agresor> Module actions installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.
[16:01] <agresor> then i reload .. but still error
[16:01] <agresor> The Apache module mod_actions is either not installed or not enabled.
[16:03] <WaltzingAlong> agresor: otherwise i do not know about configuring apache
[16:03] <agresor> oke
[16:06] <LeeJunFan> Anyone know if the kde4 in gutsy is in the standard universe repos? I see the date on those packages is a week old compared to the release date of beta3 on the 19th.
[16:08] <babeck> LeeJunFan: When installing KDE 4, I install only the universe packages that have the same version as the main packages.  That seems to work fairly well.
[16:08] <LEE986321> guys why is it when i try to login i get this?/msg: Unknown command.
[16:08] <WaltzingAlong> LeeJunFan: yes kde4beta3 is in standard repos for gutsy
[16:10] <LEE986321> never mnd I ha d to clear the stupid clip board thing
[16:11] <LEE986321> oh say that reminds  me I get an error on    my system saying tht I need to activate composite...what is it talkitn aobut?
[16:14] <LEE986321>  and then I get thess lines when i ask the pc...The program 'composite' can be found in the following packages: * imagemagick * graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat   Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package> What program do I select?
[16:16] <arash> HI, can any1 recommend a DC++ cleint? I can't say I'm too pleased with dcgui and dc-qt seems not to be able to have several slots
[16:16] <WaltzingAlong> LEE986321: composite probably refers to a section in xorg.conf
[16:16] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz | LEE986321
[16:16] <ubotu> LEE986321: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:17] <tysonsw> how can I find out  if I am using fiesty or gutsy?
[16:18] <frederic_> hello. what are the commands to get the hdisk part informations (hda1 is /usr hda3 is /home etc ) ??
[16:18] <frederic_> tx
[16:18] <pag> tysonsw, lsb_release -a
[16:18] <tysonsw> pag: thx
[16:19] <WaltzingAlong> frederic_: mount ?
[16:19] <Hiekko> hello
[16:19] <astan> hello. i'm about to upgrade to gutsy, but when i do Adept->Manage Repositories, it doesn't look like screenshot 3 at http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/ at all.. i only have a view of sources.list there..
[16:19] <astan> sorry i mean snapshot 2 at that URL.
[16:20] <dudeicles> good morning all.
[16:20] <WaltzingAlong> upgrading kubuntu? from feisty (7.04) be sure software-properties-kde is installed (sudo aptitude install software-properties-kde) then follow the upgrade instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[16:20] <frederic_> tx WaltzingAlong (sometimes easy things become sooo uneasy ;) )
[16:20] <WaltzingAlong> astan: check that
[16:20] <astan> WaltzingAlong: thanks!
[16:20] <dudeicles> I have an install (Grapevine) that won't finish. And now every time I upgrade it messes up because this program won't install correctly.
[16:21] <dudeicles> is there a way to delete that install from happening again?
[16:21] <ashfaq> Is it possible for me to run the new ubuntu gnome desktop as an alternative?
[16:22] <WaltzingAlong> ashfaq: yes. install ubuntu-desktop then at the log in sceen, select the gnome session
[16:22] <WaltzingAlong> dudeicles: from a .deb?
[16:22] <ashfaq> I have installed kde gutsy, I have been told you can have the features of gnome also! what is the command pl!
[16:22] <tysonsw> quick help.. what should I write to change the sources.list.. if I remember correct it is kate /etc/apt/sources.list.. but there were something like kdes before.. am I correct?
[16:22] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: kdesu
[16:22] <dudeicles> You know what I think I did
[16:23] <WaltzingAlong> !kdesu | tysonsw
[16:23] <ubotu> tysonsw: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[16:23] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong I have gutsy now but yet the fiesty command works
[16:24] <dudeicles> just now every time i try to install anything it asks to install  grapevine
[16:24] <WaltzingAlong> tysonsw: yeah both work just the intent was to migrate from kdesu to kdesudo
[16:24] <tysonsw> WaltzingAlong hehe.. ok :P
[16:24] <ashfaq> Waltzing : what would be the command for ubuntu-desktop in kansole
[16:24] <WaltzingAlong> ashfaq: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[16:24] <kaminix> Where are passwords stored on Linux systems?
[16:24] <taylan> hi all
[16:24] <WaltzingAlong> kaminix: passwords for what
[16:25] <WaltzingAlong> !hi | taylan
[16:25] <ubotu> taylan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:25] <dudeicles> how can I cancel all pending installations?
[16:25] <kaminix> WaltzingAlong: User passwords.
[16:25] <ashfaq> Thanks dear waltzing!
[16:25] <WaltzingAlong> kaminix: /etc/shadow ?
[16:25] <taylan> i am using kubuntu gutsy and i want to use compiz
[16:26] <astan> WaltzingAlong: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade <-- hm. step 4: "If your system is up to date, the upgrade wizard will be offered after you click "Fetch Updates" via the "Version Upgrade" button, else..".. but i can't find any "Version Upgrade" button.. where is it?
[16:26] <WaltzingAlong> astan: you can run kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade" to force the button to show
[16:26] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz | taylan
[16:26] <ubotu> taylan: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:26] <taylan> thx
[16:27] <WaltzingAlong> dudeicles: perhaps  sudo dpkg -r grapevine ?
[16:27] <astan> WaltzingAlong: hm. ok.
[16:28] <FOAD> Okay, I just upgraded to gutsy, and stuff finally works, which is cool./
[16:28] <WaltzingAlong> FOAD: welcome
[16:28] <FOAD> However, the external (USB) drives don't show up when booting anymore, how do I fix that?
[16:28] <FOAD> WaltzingAlong: thanks
[16:28] <astan> WaltzingAlong: hm. nothing happens, the console just sits there when i run that command :/
[16:29] <b01ka> how do I run the desktop effects in kubuntu 7.10
[16:29] <b01ka> ?
[16:29] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz | b01ka
[16:29] <ubotu> b01ka: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:29] <salox> hi, i need a little help. I installed Kubuntu 7.10 , and the GIMP version is 2.4.0-rc3 and i want to install GIMP 2.2.17 because is faster. What i need to do pls?
[16:30] <astan> WaltzingAlong: and when i try sudo adept_manager --dist-upgrade instead, it says "adept_manager: Okänd väljare "--dist-upgrade".", that is.. unknown flag :/
[16:31] <FOAD> When I plug in a usb drive after booting, every external drive shows up on the desktop
[16:31] <FOAD> However, still not mounted - I have to click on them to mount
[16:31] <FOAD> I would like them to just show up, mounted, on booting.
[16:31] <salox> hi, i need a little help. I installed Kubuntu 7.10 , and the GIMP version is 2.4.0-rc3 and i want to install GIMP 2.2.17 because is faster. What i need to do pls?
[16:33] <Jucato> astan: that's: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[16:33] <Jucato> (take note of where the quotes are, it's important)
[16:33] <astan> Jucato: yea i figured that out now.. however after i've pressed the Version Upgrade button, and clicked my way through and then Finish, nothing happens :/
[16:34] <Jucato> hm...
[16:34] <astan> it says "Ready to upgrade.. etc... click finish to ... and launch the distribution upgrade tool.", but when i do, nothing happens..
[16:35] <FOAD> No-one knows?
[16:36] <astan> Jucato: ah nevermind.
[16:36] <Olando> !it
[16:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:36] <jim_> Hi all, looking for some help - I reinstalled 7.04 - got all my DVD players etc up and running, but after a reboot the system does not recognise my cds or dvds? All help is greatly appreciated ;)
[16:36] <astan> Jucato: it couldn't connect to X since i was running using sudo instead of kdesu..
[16:36] <Olando> !pt
[16:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:36]  * Jucato did say "kdesu"
[16:36] <astan> but for some reason when i run kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade", nothing happens.
[16:37] <astan> yea. i just thought i could use sudo instead since nothing happened when i used kdesu, it won't show up.
[16:37] <Jucato> you used --dist-upgrade earlier
[16:38] <astan> Jucato: yea, but after checking with --help i noticed that WalzerSomething was wrong and that it was --version-upgrade.. so i'm using that now.
[16:38] <astan> now i'm trying exactly: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[16:38] <astan> weird..
[16:39] <Mekzholan> Hi, how can I make Thunderbird my default mailer (and not KMail)? The net has many descriptions for Ubuntu - but that aren't working for me...
[16:39] <taylan> i hve already installed compiz on kubuntu gutsy but i dont know how to get it work
[16:39] <astan> hm. launching another terminal and running the command there instead for some reason worked..
[16:39] <astan> ah. now it's running.
[16:39] <Jucato> Mekzholan: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Email Client
[16:39] <astan> thanks Jucato.
[16:39] <Jucato> no problem
[16:40] <b01ka> when I run the command: "compiz --replace" I get: ""
[16:40] <b01ka> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[16:40] <b01ka> No whitelisted driver found
[16:40] <b01ka> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[16:40] <b01ka> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[16:40] <b01ka> any ideas?
[16:41] <b01ka> my video card is installed correclty
[16:41] <ardchoille> b01ka: This is in gnome?
[16:41] <b01ka> nu kde
[16:41] <Mekzholan> Jucato: that doesn't allways work :( E.g. right click in Konquerer and "Send as EMail" still opens KMail
[16:41] <ardchoille> I'm wondering why it mentions metacity and not kwin
[16:42] <Jucato> Mekzholan: ah that particular problem is only specific to Konqueror's right-click Send as Email menu
[16:43] <Mekzholan> Jaucato: ok . that leaves 2 questions: 1) how can I change it? 2) why isn't that menu careing about my system settings?
[16:43] <ardchoille> Mekzholan: Is that under "Actions" in the right click menu?
[16:44] <Jucato> Mekzholan: I can only answer #2: it's specifically written to launch KMail
[16:44] <FOAD> No-one can help me with the USB drive problem?
[16:44] <Mekzholan> ardchoille: yea
[16:45] <Jucato> it's a Konqueror servicemenu.
[16:45] <ardchoille> Mekzholan: I write service menus and have been looking for that so I can change it, but it isn't in  /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
[16:45] <LEE986321> !composite
[16:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:45] <Jucato> it's an editable textfile actually
[16:45] <Jucato> ardchoille: try /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/-------
[16:45] <Jucato> forgot the exact path
[16:46] <ardchoille> Jucato: Yeah, "locate" just gave me that path
[16:46] <Jucato> :)
[16:46] <paolopoz12> help! how can I remove a damaged packet?
[16:46] <Jucato> ardchoille: then you could probably help Mekzholan more
[16:46] <Stonki> hello, when starting "compiz" on kubuntu 7.10 the window symbols for "close, move etc" is disappearing. Any chance to keep this ?
[16:46] <Jucato> ardchoille: and another hunch, you could probably make use of xdg-email (but requires xdg-utils to be installed)
[16:46] <hydrogen> paolopoz12: a packetGun!
[16:47] <abe> !compiz
[16:47] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:47] <ardchoille> Mekzholan: it's in the file /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/email.desktop . you'll have to open that file in kate and change it
[16:47] <pag> paolopoz12, " sudo dpkg -r package "
[16:47] <hydrogen> Jucato: kfmclient exec mailto:/ should work
[16:47] <paolopoz12> hydrogen: is it a program to install?
[16:47] <LEE986321> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>* imagemagick or* graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat which one do i select?
[16:47] <Jucato> hydrogen: service menu? kool
[16:47] <LEE986321> eh to get the effects running?
[16:47] <paolopoz12> pag: this doesn't work.
[16:47] <abe> Stonki: did you install that compiz-kde emerald
[16:48] <Stonki> let me check...
[16:48] <Stonki> abe: yes
[16:48] <xehnida> hello, Kopete always say that my passwd is wrong. any idea?
[16:48] <Stonki> soory..
[16:48] <hydrogen> and actually Mekzholan.. you sohuld copy that file to ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus and edit it there
[16:48] <Stonki> abe: no emerald
[16:48] <hydrogen> or it will be overwritten
[16:48] <pag> paolopoz12, pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ) the output of " sudo apt-get -f install " please
[16:48] <ubuntu_> Hi everyone!
[16:48] <abe> Stonki:  sudo aptitude install emerald
[16:48] <abe> :)
[16:49] <LEE986321> !composite
[16:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:50] <Stonki> abe: that was it. Thanks !
[16:50] <Stonki> any chance to run compiz by default ?
[16:50] <paolopoz12> pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41540/
[16:51] <LEE986321> waht do I do to enable the effects?
[16:51] <Stonki> I have to start it manually after starting kde
[16:51] <LEE986321> in kde
[16:51] <abe> !compiz | Stonki
[16:51] <ubotu> Stonki: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:52] <pag> paolopoz12, oh.. one of those.. I can't help you, sorry.
[16:53] <paolopoz12> pag: thanks anyway :-)
[16:53] <rami__> I need help with limewire, i cant use it since i upgraded it to 7.10, why?
[16:53] <paolopoz12> is there a way to manual modify the dpkg db?
[16:53] <rami__> !java
[16:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:53] <LEE986321> !imagemagick
[16:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imagemagick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:54] <LEE986321> !graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat
[16:54] <pag> !info imagemagick | LEE986321
[16:54] <ubotu> lee986321: imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 722 kB, installed size 3156 kB
[16:54] <afd_> hi! I'm looking to migrate from thunderbird to kmail, I'm looking for a spam filterin solution. Any pointers?
[16:55] <LEE986321> oh
[16:55] <LEE986321> pag is this the one that I need to load?
[16:55] <pag> LEE986321, depends.. what are you trying to achieve?
[16:56] <LEE986321> pag getting rid of the rror that says i need to enable Composite
[16:56] <LEE986321> and to ekkep the effects form crashing
[16:57] <Jucato> Composite extension in xorg.conf
[16:57] <pag> LEE986321, afaik imagemagick has nothing to do with effects... you could instal it, but I'm not sure if it helps
[16:57] <LEE986321> pag trying to acheive the abillity to use fading windows and other "eye candy
 Composite extension in xorg.conf
[16:57] <pag> !compiz | LEE986321
[16:57] <ubotu> LEE986321: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:57] <gi000> hi. i can't get kdm to work. my system halts at the command line login
[16:58] <LEE986321> eh never mind the bot got it lol
[16:59] <gi000> anyone has any idea?
[16:59] <shezaan> I want to increase my screen resolution beyond the maximum allowed 1024x768, I tried editing the xorg.conf but all in vain. Any ideas?
[16:59] <spimort> hi all
[17:00] <shezaan> I am using Geforce 6200 graphics adapter with their very newest driver
[17:02] <tekteen> anyone here know how to find out witch package contains a certain file.
[17:02] <shezaan> packages.ubuntu.com
[17:02] <ardchoille> shezaan: I have that same card and driver. I changed the res with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then restarted x
[17:02] <martoya> tekteen: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:03] <harry__> heyho anyone speaking german here?
[17:03] <shezaan> use the second search option
[17:03]  * ubuntu_ 
[17:03] <shezaan> not the search for packages
[17:03] <abe> !de
[17:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:03]  * ubuntu_ kill
[17:03] <harry__> kk thx
[17:03] <ardchoille> tekteen: dpkg -S file
[17:04] <Jucato> ardchoille: only works if the packages is installed
[17:04] <ardchoille> Jucato: :(
[17:04] <shezaan> thanks ardchoille I trid that too it doesn't work for me
[17:04] <Jucato> you can use apt-file if you want to do something like that without going to packages.ubuntu.com
[17:04] <thcmonkey> is changing the res in kubuntu the same process as it is in ubuntu?
[17:04] <surface> anyone here caught X crashed, black screen after logout to kdm?
[17:04] <ardchoille> Jucato: Thanks
[17:05] <ardchoille> thcmonkey: Should be
[17:05] <Jucato> shezaan: dpkg -S file only works if the package to which the file belongs to is installed. you can use apt-file (you have to install it first) as an alternative
[17:05] <Minataku> When you log out, X11 terminates
[17:05] <Minataku> Then kdm will restart it
[17:05] <Minataku> That's normal behavior
[17:05] <dorkface> I wanted to test out virtual keyboard, and while it worked fine, it keeps starting up whenever I reboot the system.  Where can I go to disable a program from running at login?
[17:05] <shezaan> thcmonkey: it should
[17:05] <thcmonkey> cheers
[17:05] <gi000> kdm doesn't work for me. i have no idea why
[17:06] <Jucato> dorkface: completely quit the app when you logout
[17:06] <surface> Minataku: it becomes black screen and not coming back, all keyboard, mouse lost functioning
[17:06] <gi000> can't even reconfigure it
[17:06] <Minataku> It's also not a crash, it exits with errno 0, which is almost universally used to mean "Success"
[17:06] <dorkface> I right click, and quit it, but it still comes up
[17:06] <Minataku> Or "No Error"
[17:06] <Minataku> Oh
[17:06] <surface> the only thing i can do is, reset the power
[17:06] <Minataku> Have you tried Ctrl+Alt+BkSp ?
[17:07] <surface> Minataku: not working
[17:07] <Minataku> If that fails, try Alt+SysRq+K
[17:07] <surface> all keyboard function gone
[17:07] <surface> SysRq ?
[17:07] <surface> oh, that i haven't tried
[17:07] <Minataku> Which, if the kernel is responding and the video system hasn't gone completely inconsistent, should terminate everything on that terminal
[17:08] <surface> i even tried to ctrl+alt+f1, but what i know is keyboard doesn't response at all
[17:08] <surface> even caplock key
[17:08] <Minataku> If THAT fails, then try an emergency reset, hit Alt+SysRq+S, wait 10 seconds, hit Alt+SysRq+U, wait 10 seconds, then hit Alt+SysRq+B
[17:08] <surface> normally if i press caplock key, the lights on
[17:08] <Minataku> This will sync, unmount and remount r/o, then reboot
[17:08] <dorkface> That happened to me as well, all I could do is reboot the system
[17:08] <ardchoille> Minataku , surface: it might be related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[17:09] <Kachna> http://www.pastebin.cz/show/2189 << what am i missing pls
[17:09] <ardchoille> That bug is the reason I have no tty 1-6
[17:09] <surface> ardchoille: thx, let me check it out
[17:09] <Minataku> Ah, yeah, if the CapsLock key doesn't light, then you're stuck
[17:09] <abe> i didn't have tty before then i reinstall and they come back
[17:10] <surface> is it a problem of kdm or X server or kernel?
[17:10] <jan_> Ich will nen treiber installieren,dann kommt allerdings die meldung: permission denied  ich muss das als root installieren, wie meld' ich mich als root an?
[17:10] <Minataku> Dunno
[17:10] <Minataku> It could be a combination of X11 and the kernel
[17:10] <abe> Minataku: what alt+sysrq+s does?
[17:10] <Minataku> Alt+SysRq+S performs a sync
[17:11] <Minataku> The exact same thing that happens when you type "sync"
[17:11] <Minataku> Or every so often by the kernel as a normal process
[17:11] <shezaan> does anyone know of a way to manually edit the xorg.conf so that I can go beyond the max screen resolution  of 1024x768 without running dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[17:11] <surface> ardchoille: diff case, mine, keyboard totally lost function
[17:11] <jan_> i need to install graphic drivers, but I the error message "permission denied" - in need to install the driver as a root - how do i become root-rights?
[17:11] <Minataku> The SysRq method is called "Emergency Sync" and is used when you're unable to sync by typing it at a shell
[17:11] <markus__> jan_: unter kubuntu kann man sich nicht als root anmelden
[17:12] <ardchoille> shezaan: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:12] <Minataku> !de
[17:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:12] <markus__> jan_: öffne ein Terminal als root
[17:12] <jan_> und was kann ich nu machen?
[17:12] <shezaan> I know that ardchoille but with what values
[17:12] <Minataku> Since I'm sure it'll be more conveinent for you in your native language
[17:12] <surface> Minataku: haha for my case i am not even can press that button
[17:12] <jan_> terminal= konsole?
[17:12] <shezaan> and which subsections?
[17:12] <surface> besides that , i am happy with the new kubuntu
[17:12] <ardchoille> shezaan: That command opens the file in kate as root. You have to put the correct values in yourself
[17:13] <Minataku> Haha
[17:13] <abe> thanks Minataku for the explanation, by the way that !de was for a guy call harry__, i am spanish
[17:13] <markus__> jan_:ja, aber wir müssen in den deutschsprachigen Channel wechseln
[17:13] <Minataku> "Sure, it doesn't work right, completely screws up if I do this or that, but hey, it's great!"
[17:13] <Minataku> XD
[17:13] <shezaan> ardchoille: is it possible for you to email me your xorg.conf
[17:13] <ardchoille> shezaan: no
[17:13] <jan_> channelname?
[17:13] <Minataku> !es
[17:13] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[17:13] <ardchoille> shezaan: If you look at that file, it's easy to figure out what to put in it
[17:14] <Minataku> Just type ! and the two letter country code
[17:14] <abe> !pastebin | ardchoille
[17:14] <ubotu> ardchoille: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:14] <shezaan> ardchoille: believe me all the common sense stuff I already tried
[17:14] <jan_> ! de
[17:14] <Minataku> If there's a channel for that language, then the bot will tell you what it is
[17:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:14] <jan_> !de
[17:14] <ardchoille> abe: Please don't do that
[17:14] <markus__> jan_: kubuntu-de mit Gartenhag vornendran
[17:14] <shezaan> ardchoille: I need to see exactly what needs to be changed
[17:14] <Minataku> Though it's usually always [k]ubuntu-(country code)
[17:15] <shezaan> I already tried putting in my value of 1440x900
[17:16] <shezaan> ardchoille: your xorg.conf will help me a lot. Trust me I am not going to try and spam you or anything
[17:17] <abe> pastebin | shezaan
[17:17] <abe> !pastebin | shezaa
[17:17] <ubotu> shezaa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:17] <surface> Emergency Syncbrb
[17:17] <ardchoille> shezaan: http://pastebin.ca/744541
[17:17] <ardchoille> abe: Please stop that
[17:18] <shezaan> awesome  thanks a million
[17:18] <ardchoille> yw
[17:18] <rubikcube> hi, is there a selection of the most wanted/annoying gutsy bugs?
[17:19] <Minataku> !bugs
[17:19] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[17:21] <abe> ubotu is great
[17:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is great - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:21] <abe> ajaja
[17:21] <martex_> Damn, Distribution Update Tool crashes: "Sorry, the program "dpkg-preconfigure closed unexpectedly." I'm trying to update from Feity Fawn to 7.10. Is there anything I can do?
[17:21] <Mekzholan> hydrogen, ardchoille, jucanto: thanks, it works fine! I've copyed the file and changed the content to "Exec=thunderbird -compose attachment='file://%F'"
[17:21] <ardchoille> Mekzholan: :)
[17:23] <abe> granoille
[17:24] <andrea> how would i go about making konversation the default irc client instead of kopete?
[17:24] <attunix> ! #ubuntu-general
[17:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-general - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:26] <spimort> how can i mount my windows partition?
[17:27] <andrea> search ntfs-3g ubuntu in google
[17:27] <spimort> ok
[17:27] <lee_> Whats this mean composite extension not found, : Must use x.Org  > 6.8 for sahdows and translucencey to work aditionally oyu need to install a new section to you x or files "extensions" option comosite enable.
[17:28] <lee_> I downloaded the thing but then my screen went hay wire
[17:29] <lee_> !info composite enable
[17:29] <ubotu> Package composite does not exist in gutsy
[17:29] <spimort> if i dont have an ntfs part?
[17:29] <lee_> eh how do I get that half then lol
[17:30] <martex_> * stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/perl terminated
[17:30] <martex_> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:30] <martex_> Richte debconf ein (1.5.14ubuntu1) ...
[17:30] <martex_> *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/perl terminated
[17:30] <martex_> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von debconf (--configure):
[17:30] <martex_>  Unterprozess post-installation script mit Signal (Segmentation fault), Speicherabbild erzeugt getötet
[17:30] <martex_> Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
[17:30] <martex_>  debconf
[17:30] <ardchoille> !paste | martex_
[17:30] <ubotu> martex_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:31] <martex_> sorry. I'm a little nervous, distribution update doesn't work. :(
[17:31] <rubikcube> just wait for some weeks ;-)
[17:32] <[ifr0g]> !broadcom
[17:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:32] <lee_> ok downlaoded both : imagemagick: and :graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat:
[17:32] <[ifr0g]> !bcm34xx
[17:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm34xx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:32] <lee_> somehtings got to kick satrt t his thing
[17:32] <martex_> doesnt lokk good, I think when I reboot, it won't come up again.
[17:33] <surface> !bulletproofx
[17:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bulletproofx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:33] <kaminix> !lamp
[17:33] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:33] <moope1> hey , my computer keeps freezing up for no aperent reason. can anyone help find out why?
[17:34] <flake> installing 7.10 while chatting live using pidgeon on same machine :)
[17:36] <flake> just had to do that, be back later
[17:36] <moope1> hey , my computer keeps freezing up for no apparent reason. can anyone help find out why? The mouse disappears and I am left hanging :(
[17:38] <martex_> can I use the installation CD of 7.10 to upgrade my 7.04 installation without having to reinstall it?
[17:38] <martex_> not reinstall, renew.
[17:40] <raidproblem> Can anyone tell me how to get the restricted driver prompt to show again? I tried to enable nvidia, but it doesn't seem to have done it
[17:40] <clergyman> Hi! I'm trying to get my laptop's microphone to work.. I can hear myself in it, but when I do arecord -t wav aa.wav , there's nothing in the file
[17:40] <clergyman> Like, if I tap the mic, it comes out of my speakers.. so at least something's working :)
[17:43] <Oakbox> hi all, does anyone know if there is a channel for OpenSG? or could someone tell me how i can search for a channel?
[17:49] <Aranel> how can I bind the "dir" command to "dir --color" ? I tried aliasing, but when I close&reopen my console window, alias doesn't work.
[17:50] <clergyman> Aranel: Put it in ~/.bashrc
[17:51] <clergyman> The alias command
[17:51] <Aranel> clergyman: alias "dir"="dir --color" ?
[17:52] <clergyman> alias dir='dir --color'
[17:52] <rubikcube> but it should work in both versions
[17:52] <Aranel> clergyman: thanks :)
[17:52] <clergyman> np
[17:54] <ardchoille> Aranel: Why not use "ls -a" ?
[17:54] <pavon>  Gusty has ruined my system , I am unable to get into my system, it says it has got some problem with
[17:54] <pavon>  "mdadm".
[17:54] <pavon>  
[17:54] <pavon>  Install command for gusty update-manager -c -d.
[17:54] <pavon>  
[17:54] <pavon>  I tried to remove Gusty and reinstall Feisty using alternate disc (ATI x1300 prbs) , but the installation
[17:54] <pavon>  fails saying it is unable to mount /target /proc blah blah blah.... there is a dirty red screen coming up
[17:54] <pavon>  just like windows blue screen
[17:54] <pavon>  
[17:54] <pavon>  So here I am, my Gusty installation has failed terribly
[17:54] <pavon> sorry
[17:54] <pavon> ignore that
[17:55] <lee_> well taht was quite the enjoyable expeireince nothing but a scrambled screen
[17:55]  * pavon walks out with tail between legs
[17:55] <lee_> at leaset the system restet up on restart
[17:56] <lee_> Why you walking with your tail tucked pavon
[17:58] <Oakbox> hi i dont suppose anyone knows a channel that i can ask questions on openSG??
[17:59] <hydrogen> anyone know of 2.6.23 unofficial packages for gutsy?
[18:01] <shadowhywind> hay all having a bit of problems, my wireless connects, and grabs an ip. But i can't connect to websites
[18:01] <pookito> Good afternoon everyonw
[18:01] <Oakbox> hi all anyone know a channel i can ask questions on OpenSG?
[18:01] <pookito> I need some serious help for my homework
[18:02] <pookito> can anyone help me
[18:02] <pookito> ?
[18:02] <pookito> It's about stegbreak and a file missing
[18:03] <skull1980__> привет
[18:03] <pookito> Please, please, please
[18:04] <rubikcube> hi, what could be the problem with this umount (click onto "safe remove") error? http://pastebin.com/d6073caa8
[18:04] <ardchoille> rubikcube: It helps if we could read it in English
[18:05] <lee_> eh help?
[18:05] <rubikcube> ardchoille: oh, it just tells that umount fails due to the error in line 5 ;-)
[18:05] <flake> got it installed on new harddrive, now what..
[18:05] <lee_> I have a composite mannager failure
[18:05] <paolopoz12> how can i remove a damaged package?
[18:06] <ardchoille> rubikcube: I'm guessing that you don't have permission to umount
[18:06] <lee_> !infor compoistmannager failure
[18:06] <flake> sudo apt-get remove <package>  ?
[18:06] <rubikcube> ardchoille: that's what the error suggests, but it only happened since the gutsy upgrade today, so I'd like to know where those setting might be set
[18:06] <ardchoille> lee_: That !info trigger only works with apps/packages, iirc
[18:07] <paolopoz12> flake: didn't work. package is damaged
[18:07] <lee_> eh oh
[18:07] <yurimxpxman> are there any AVCHD codecs for GNU/Linux?
[18:07] <lee_> ardchoille eh I have ammanger failure and trying to figure out how or why its failing
[18:07] <lee_> how do I check
[18:07] <paolopoz12> is there a way to remove an entry from dpkg db?
[18:07] <ardchoille> lee_: google?
[18:08] <pookito> you see, I was about to use stegbreak and now it is telling me that stegbreak: fopen: /usr/share/stegbreak/rules.ini:
[18:08] <ardchoille> paolopoz12: What does it say when you try to remove it?
[18:08] <lee_> eh for a composite failure relating to kubuntu?
[18:09] <ardchoille> lee_: yes, google can be a great help
[18:09] <paolopoz12> ardchoille: some files are missing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41540/
[18:10] <juan> what is the default window manager for kde?
[18:11] <ardchoille> juan: kwin
[18:11] <raidproblem> kwin I think
[18:11] <clergyman> kwin
[18:11] <lee_> woa wait i fo8nd something.....eh but....need help in what i am seeing
[18:11] <flake> installing brother laser printer a breeze :)
[18:11] <juan> thanks
[18:11] <lee_> I am at display setting and there is a setting that is set for 640x480
[18:12] <lee_> it is the compiz aettings mannager
[18:15] <flake> guess 7.10 boots with gnome, I need to install kde?
[18:16] <julie> bonjour
[18:17] <julie> http\\www.kubuntu.fr
[18:17] <Saied> julie: http\\ ? :D
[18:18] <julie> oui je n arrive pas a aller sur le bon
[18:18] <ardchoille> !fr
[18:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:18] <julie> merci
[18:19] <werty> how can i find some chatrooms for regular chat?
[18:19] <flake> ardchoille - i dont think i can do PM with no registered nick
[18:20] <ardchoille> flake: ok, looks like you installed from the Ubuntu cd rather than the kubuntu cd.
[18:20] <ardchoille> flake: You can get kde with: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:20] <flake> right, must have grabbed the wrong one
[18:20] <cox> werty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[18:20] <Spork> hello?
[18:20] <bone> Does anyone have a minute to help with problems upgrading from Fiesty to Gutsy?
[18:20] <flake> thanks
[18:20] <ardchoille> yw
[18:20] <draik> How do I convert a JPG to PDF?
[18:21] <flake> should i go for kde4 beta or normal?
[18:21] <rubikcube> hi, I have found a minor bug, but I'm not sure whether to report it at ubuntu or upstream (hal).  When hal mounts devices, it records this in a file called /media/.hal-mtab. If this file is not reset properly (Maybe due to a user not umounting a device properly or simply a simply crash.), hal will think that there's still a device by that user, so any other user will be denied to umount their own
[18:21] <ardchoille> flake: kde4 is barely usable
[18:21] <rubikcube> devices afterwards (hal thinks the device belongs to someone else)
[18:21] <flake> i want to run desklets or screenlets without a black border around them
[18:22] <flake> like not having a round clock with a black box behind it
[18:22] <surface> draik:  paste to open office writer and save as pdf ?
[18:23] <bone> Has anyone had problems with the Distribution Upgrade hanging while "installing the upgrades"?
[18:23] <Spork> I'm trying to install kubuntu on an old lap top I have laying around but it won't worl, can anyone help?
[18:23] <rubikcube> Spork: what does not work?
[18:23] <Spork> when i try to install it
[18:24] <ardchoille> I like how you narrowed it down, lol
[18:24] <Spork> It worked on the newer one I have but... lol sorry
[18:24] <rubikcube> !question
[18:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[18:24] <rubikcube> hmm, wrong factoid
[18:24] <ardchoille> Spork: how much ram and how big is the hd?
[18:25] <Spork> No clue xD let me check
[18:25] <bone> While running the Distribution Upgrade from FF to GG, the process got hung up while "installing the upgrades"
[18:25] <ardchoille> Spork: If it's an older machine, you might be better off installing xubuntu.. or maybe the server install and building up from there using a window manager like fluxbox
[18:25] <rubikcube> bone: I had it here, but after a reboot, the rest of the install went smoothly
[18:26] <Spork> umm... well I can't really do anything with it because the mouse was disabled =(. Thanks for the help though
[18:26] <bone> Ok, I'll give it a shot.  I wasn't sure if a reboot would goof it up worse.  I'll give it a shot, though.  Thanks.
[18:27] <Hiekko> hello again
[18:27] <rubikcube> bone: it nearly completely froze... so there was no other thing to do
[18:27] <juan> is there a wiki where to learn how to create a new session specially for compiz?
[18:27] <tysonsw> I need a little help.. how can i go to kubuntu from ubuntu
[18:27] <Hiekko> can anyone help me? cant install network_manager_openVPN ..
[18:27] <ardchoille> tysonsw:  You can get kde with: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:27] <colo> hola
[18:28] <tysonsw> ardchoille thx
[18:28] <ardchoille> yw
[18:28] <colo> i have a problem with kopete
[18:28] <colo> anybody can help me?
[18:28] <ardchoille> colo: It won't connect to msn?
[18:28] <rubikcube> !give colo question
[18:28] <colo> it does not connect and it throws an error message
[18:29] <ardchoille> colo: Only when connecting to msn? or with any connection?
[18:29] <colo> i just tried connecting to msn
[18:29] <ardchoille> colo: That's a known issue, no fix yet.
[18:30] <ardchoille> colo: I can't connect to msn either, but yahoo, icq and aim all work fine
[18:30] <colo> ok, thanks, what im programm would you recommend?
[18:30] <colo> amsn?
[18:30] <ardchoille> I don't really know im that well to make a recommendation
[18:30] <rubikcube> can pidgeon speak msn?
[18:30] <ardchoille> I'm just waiting for the bugfix
[18:31] <Spork> How do install
[18:31] <ardchoille> rubikcube: Good question
[18:31] <Spork> never mind
[18:31] <colo> where are you from guys?
[18:31] <Oakbox> ardchoille: there is a fix out there i have the deb but cant remember the web page
[18:32] <Oakbox> ardchoille: it will be out when the repos is un frosen
[18:32] <ardchoille> Oakbox: Ah, ok
[18:33] <Spork> How do I install "install_flash_player_9_linux"?
[18:33] <ardchoille> Spork: I recommend you stick with the repos to install things.
[18:33] <ardchoille> !flash
[18:33] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:34] <Spork> repos?
[18:34] <ardchoille> !repos | Spork
[18:34] <ubotu> Spork: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[18:34] <Spork> Thank you!
[18:34] <ardchoille> yw
[18:37] <h3sp4wn> Spork: Just stick it in ~/,mozilla/plugins
[18:37] <h3sp4wn> Spork: won't do any harm there
[18:38] <ardchoille> h3sp4wn: And when it gets updates, his package manager won't automatically update it.
[18:38] <ardchoille> s/updates/updates and bugfixes/
[18:38] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: In a stable release flash won't be updated
[18:39] <Spork> well... all I have is the Konqueror Web Browser.
[18:39] <ardchoille> h3sp4wn: hence the replacement :)
[18:39] <colo> any eclipse user here?
[18:40] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: Just as easy to just update it every so often (or when a site is unreliable for you)
[18:40] <lee_> eh guys, is comp fusion a step to have A 3d vr apsect of  a system?
[18:41] <lee_> form viewng the u tube videos taht is exactly waht it reminds me of
[18:41] <ardchoille> h3sp4wn: The recommended way (not to mention the safe way) is to let the package manager deal with it.
[18:41] <mohamed> hi guys i'm newbie in linux and I want to add my IE favorits to firefox bookmarks, can I do that mannually or any suggestions?
[18:41] <octo_> now that the kernel shows IDE drives as SCSI, how can you be sure that DMA is working on an IDE drive.  hdparm tells me HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device?
[18:42] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: putting something in ~/.mozilla/plugins is 100% safe
[18:42] <colo> i have problems with my wireless card? i installed kunbtu 7.10 on an hp dv9000
[18:42] <colo> any ideas?
[18:43] <fluffman> mohamed: install firefox in windows, and let your IE bookmarks import into FF
[18:43] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: The whole purpose of that directory is so that it is safe for the packagemanager
[18:43] <fluffman> then, copy and paste your mozilla profile from windows to linux
[18:43] <ardchoille> h3sp4wn: circumventing the recommended procedures is never safe.
[18:43] <mohamed> thanks man that would help a lot
[18:44] <colo> any ideas about problems with broadcomm wireless cards?
[18:44] <colo> :(
[18:44] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: mindly buying into stuff is never safe either
[18:44] <fluffman> broadcom should be installed by the restricted package manager
[18:44] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: mindlessly buying into stuff
[18:44] <hydrogen> !realplayer
[18:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:45] <colo> what about bcm43xx-fwcutter? kubuntu is trying to enable my wireles card wiith that driver
[18:45] <combinio> how to turn OFF in firefox mplayer plug in? that after clicking on some movie it will be downloaded on my hdd and not shown in firefox ? :}
[18:45] <fluffman> colo: yes
[18:46] <fluffman> use that
[18:46] <colo> and it is not working properly
[18:46] <fluffman> reboot
[18:46] <fluffman> and make sure that the card is physically turned on at the switch
[18:46] <Spork> I just downloaded Fire Fox but I can't find it.
[18:46] <fluffman> Spork: K Menu > Internet > Firefox
[18:47] <fluffman> if you instlled from the repositories (adept, add/remove programs, etc.)
[18:48] <mohamed> hey guys does any body know chat room for java
[18:48] <tysonsw> I need big help ASAP..  I resently used the command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.. and therefor got ubuntu.. Now I want to go back to kubuntu.. how do I do that?? if I type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop all i get is a message that says that this is already the installed OS
[18:48] <rubikcube> mohamed: tried #java or ##java already?
[18:48] <colo> i am quite sure taht the card is ok because when it works in windows
[18:48] <colo> i uninstalles windows and when i boot with kubuntu
[18:48] <colo> it stoppped working
[18:48] <combinio> don't u have ANY problems with mplayer plug-in in FIREFOX ?? :]
[18:49] <colo> my card is a broadcom
[18:49] <combinio> how to turn it off ? :} can someone help me, please ? :)
[18:49] <colo> by what i read ubuntu uses bcm43xx , but it fails
[18:49] <Spork> fluffman:I did that but it's not there.
[18:49] <fluffman> !purekde | tysonsw
[18:49] <ubotu> tysonsw: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[18:50] <mohamed> how can I add java room for the irx, I didn't use the irc in ages
[18:50] <fluffman> mohamed: /join #java
[18:51] <tysonsw> fluffman big thx to you my friend
[18:51] <fluffman> Spork: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:51] <fluffman> tysonsw: you're welcome :)
[18:52] <mohamed> how can I identify my self to join a chat room
[18:52] <lee_> eh whats this mean ?>>>>>>>Checking for Xgl: not present<<<<<<<
[18:53] <Spork> So.. Purge fire fox then Install?
[18:53] <eljefe> so... what about K7.10 is new or exciting?  It still seems to be the forgotten sibling of Ubuntu, I don't see much to be excited about here... what am I missing
[18:53] <fluffman> Spork: yes
[18:53] <Spork> Thank you =)
[18:54] <fluffman> eljefe: compared to Ubuntu 7.10, or Kubuntu 7.04?
[18:54] <fluffman> mohamed: /msg nickserv HELP
[18:54] <eljefe> K7.04.  the new release seems kinda the same, not much has changed...
[18:55] <eljefe> not much difference that I see with k7.10 from K7.04
[18:55] <fluffman> well you won't notice much if you were already using 7.04
[18:55] <eljefe> that stinks
[18:55] <fluffman> but you get some new menu items (like Wine)
[18:55] <eljefe> lol
[18:55] <eljefe> yeah
[18:55] <Spork> Thank you fluffman =3
[18:55] <fluffman> and you get the restricted drivers
[18:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> so it's such a minor incremental difference that it defies logic to give it its own version number?
[18:55] <fluffman> you're welcome, Spork
[18:56] <eljefe> but the NTFS Config app needs 'gksu', that should have been fixed.  KFlickr and a bunch of other apps weren't upgraded to the newest
[18:56] <fluffman> Daisuke_Laptop: there's a lot going on behind the scenes
[18:56] <fluffman> it also includes strigi for quick desktop search
[18:57] <eljefe> other than Stringi, i feel once again that Ubuntu got all of the love.
[18:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> having used kubuntu for the past year, i'm *really* seeing very little difference
[18:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> strigi's nice though
[18:57] <fluffman> oh how I HATED the old search
[18:57] <lars__> I just installed K7.04 and HATE Gwenview. Can someone recommend an image viewer more like irfanview?
[18:57] <fluffman> D:
[18:57] <fluffman> lars__: Picasa from Google
[18:57] <mohamed> Does Kubunt7.10 come with the 3D desktop?
[18:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> picasa is NOTHING like irfanview
[18:58] <eljefe> no 3d that I've noticed
[18:58] <eljefe> although I hate Metacity WM, so if 3d would bean getting rid of KWin, I'll stay 3d-free
[18:58] <mohamed> how can get the 3d working if it's included in KB?
[18:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> uh
[18:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> the 3d isn't metacity
[18:58] <lars__> fluffman and daisuke are both right. Great viewer - nothing like irfanview
[18:59] <fluffman> !compiz | mohamed
[18:59] <ubotu> mohamed: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:00] <lee_> !xgl
[19:00] <fluffman> (13:57:59) Daisuke_Laptop: picasa is NOTHING like irfanview
[19:00] <fluffman> oh, sorry
[19:00] <fluffman> I haven't used irfanview, just going by what I've heard
[19:00] <lee_> !info xgl
[19:00] <ubotu> Package xgl does not exist in gutsy
[19:01] <xid> I installed Apache and MySQL using Adept, but there is no mysql module in Apache's modules directory.
[19:01] <lee_> then how in heck am i to run eerything?
[19:01] <mohamed> I always felt that the IRC is useless but I was wrong, you are really helpful   guys
[19:01] <xid> I must have skipped something obvious
[19:01] <stdin> !lamp | xid
[19:01] <ubotu> xid: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:02] <lee_> grrrr.
[19:02] <xid> kthnx]
[19:02] <Lega> 'ello.
[19:02] <lee_> if its not one thing its another
[19:02] <gun_> hi
[19:02] <mohamed> What about shortcut to move between you desktop without clicking?
[19:03] <lee_> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[19:03] <tysonsw> I need big help.. I need to go from ubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop wuick
[19:03] <tysonsw> !purekde
[19:03] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[19:03] <eljefe> where can i find the w32codecs package?
[19:03] <stdin> !w32codecs
[19:03] <tysonsw> I need big help.. I need to go from ubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop wuick
[19:03] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[19:04] <stdin> tysonsw: so follow that link
[19:04] <mohamed> any shortcut to move between different desktops
[19:05] <atlfalcons866> #gentoo
[19:05] <stdin> mohamed: ctrl-F?  so Ctrl-F1 switches to desktop 1
[19:05] <mohamed> thanks
[19:06] <mohamed> is there any faster way to move between 4 desktops
[19:06] <izio> is it possibile to try kde 4 wituot remouve 3.5.8
[19:06] <ubuntero_numero1> hello everyone
[19:07] <mohamed> that's one thing i like about linux, that would help me be productive
[19:07] <stdin> izio: read the link in the topic
[19:07] <lee_> !pastebin
[19:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:08] <eljefe> does the seveas repo have gutsy apps?  it wouldn't load in my apt-get update (file 302 Found ??)
[19:08] <fluffman> izio: yes...when you install kde4, it leaves kde 3
[19:08] <fluffman> just follow the directions on the main kubuntu.org page
[19:09] <lee_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41554/
[19:09] <ubuntero_numero1> anyone know how to update the icon listing on kde menu?  what is that program called again?
[19:09] <rubikcube> mohamed: faster than what?
[19:09] <izio> fluffman: thanks
[19:09] <mohamed> any thoughts about how to move 4 desktops with a simple shortcut?
[19:09] <eljefe> does anyone know where the apps come from for a build?  For example, do the Kubuntu people get the most up-to-date package they can find for an application?  Or does it come from Debian Testing, or Sid?  or do they just repackage the app from Feisty?  or...?
[19:10] <lee_> Iam getting anoyed at all the reasons at why It won't Now I want to Forfce it to do it
[19:10] <eljefe> mohamed: [ctrl][F1] thru [ctrl][f4]
[19:10] <lars__> I am *trying* to install OPERA. Konqi keeps opening the DEB in Kate. Is there a repository somewhere?
[19:10] <stdin> eljefe: packages are normally synced from debian unstable
[19:10] <mohamed> got it thanks
[19:10] <stdin> !opera | lars__
[19:10] <ubotu> lars__: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[19:11] <lee_> !beryl
[19:11] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[19:11] <eljefe> stdin: really?  all the apps i use seem old on the new 7.10!  when are they synced?  my work box is Debian Testing and has newer apps, at least the ones I've look at this morning
[19:11] <ubuntero_numero1> anyone know how to update the icon listing on kde menu?  what is that program called again?
[19:11] <izio> how to install 3d desktop like "vista"
[19:11] <lee_> !compiz
[19:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:12] <lars__> props to ubotu
[19:12] <stdin> eljefe: most were synced at the start of the development period, but there have been syncs since then. and what packages are old?
[19:12] <urbanmage> hey all, I just switched over to kubuntu (gutsy). I'm trying to make the icons on my desktop smaller, I've looked all over for the settings and searched the docs, etc and I can't find anything.  Suggestions?
[19:13] <stdin> urbanmage: System Settings > Appearance > Icons > Advanced
[19:13] <urbanmage> stdin: thanks, I'll check it out
[19:14] <Morrissey> Hi! I am trying to install kubuntu 7.10 on a 64 bits ASUS A8N-E, with two disks on RAID .. with chipset nForce4 ... graphic card: Radeon X800XL ... but instantly when I press "Start or install kubuntu", it loads the kernel, and then the machine freezes ... no input on keyboard is going trhough or nothing (such as caps, numlock, ctrl-alt-del ...) ... any ideas?
[19:15] <urbanmage> stdin: that did it, thanks for the info ;-)
[19:15] <dga> when i go fetch updates in adept, it says there is a new version available but when i click to upgrade there is none. what's up with that?
[19:15] <eljefe> stdin: kflickr is old; due to bugs in kdenlive export and reading the forums, it seems that ffmpeg and mlt++ may be old; Firefox is oldish (2.0.0.6, newest is 2.0.0.8); thats all I've played with so far tho.  The Kdenlive issue is killing me tho!  I files a bug on the project site but who knows if the fix will ever get to Gutsy tho :(
[19:17] <eljefe> and it amazes me that Amarok tools like replaygain and aacgain, used for the volume-normalization script "Amarok-Replay-Gain", aren't included yet!
[19:17] <eljefe> dga: i get that too, no idea
[19:17] <biovore> oO
[19:17] <lee_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41554/ how do i get flgrx?
[19:18] <lee_> or whatever i need?
[19:18] <lee_> can't find on google
[19:18] <stdin> lee_: you need Xgl and compiz-kde
[19:18] <stdin> !xgl
[19:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:18] <stdin> mm
[19:18] <stdin> !info xserver-xgl
[19:18] <ubotu> xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1696 kB, installed size 4404 kB
[19:18] <izio> how to install 3d desktop like "vista"
[19:19] <stdin> ubotu: tell izio about compiz | izio see the message from ubotu
[19:19] <eljefe> if i follow !compiz will I lose KWin window manager?  can i easily get it back?
[19:20] <stdin> eljefe: you just run "kwin --replace" to get back to kwin, kwin will still be the default when you login tho
[19:20] <fluffman> Morrissey: your ATI card can't show the graphical loading pictures
[19:20] <Do0oDz> hi .. have anyone installed VMware in here ?
[19:20] <eljefe> thanks stdin
[19:20] <Morrissey> fluffman, ah ... I disabled splash, now it seems to be getting somewhere
[19:20] <fluffman> press ctrl+alt+f1 to see the kernel booting, or just wait
[19:20] <fluffman> yeah, there you go
[19:21] <lee_> allready got compiz, i just need the comand for xgl
[19:21] <fluffman> if you can't load the desktop at all, you should get the alternate install CD
[19:22] <stdin> lee_: just install xserver-xgl from adept, then you logout and choose "Restart X server" from the login menu
[19:23] <draik> When using Katapult, how do you go to "Next"?
[19:24] <Fish-Face> Hi all, amarok has started refusing to start. No splash screen, window or anything is produced, and no interesting or unusual output is produced at the command line
[19:24] <Fish-Face> Running strace against amarokapp reveals a select which times out twice, and then a read which just hangs
[19:24] <draik> !upgrade
[19:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:24] <lee_> stdin ok so i now after having installed i log out and then "Restart X server" from the login menu..will i see it in th options?
[19:25] <Fish-Face> draik: was that for me?
[19:25] <lee_> logging out
[19:25] <flake> 7.10 kde + compiz/kde installed, how do i get to compiz?
[19:25] <stdin> lee_: you just restart the X server, it's an option in the menu on the login screen. Xgl will automatically start then
[19:25] <stdin> !compiz | flake
[19:25] <ubotu> flake: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:25] <draik> Fish-Face: No. I was curious about the upgrade
[19:26] <Fish-Face> Oh, OK
[19:26] <[4N93L]> I got 3.5.6 kubuntu and i recently downloaded and installed FluxBox ..i had to upgrade it using Aptitude .. I can't notice the difference, or am i missing something?? Is there a command that makes this FluxBox work ?
[19:26] <lee_> eh is that a full sytem restart?
[19:26] <dga> what do i need to install to enable compiz fusion? just xserver-xgl?
[19:26] <lee_> or what isan x server restart?
[19:27] <h3sp4wn> [4N93L]: just use exec /usr/bin/fluxbox in .xinitrc
[19:27] <stdin> [4N93L]: you have to choose to start fluxbox, from the login menu
[19:27] <lee_> oh k
[19:28] <stdin> h3sp4wn: that would wreak havoc when he want's to start kde
[19:28] <h3sp4wn> stdin: He wants to run fluxbox
[19:28] <stdin> h3sp4wn: forever?
[19:28] <biovore> dosn't it show up as a selectable window manager in kdm?
[19:28] <h3sp4wn> stdin: launching fluxbox from kdm seems wrong
[19:28] <flake> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:28] <emiry> im stupid... why can't i connect to efnet server?
[19:29] <dga> flake: that says it is for feisty
[19:29] <biovore> g-lined?
[19:29] <h3sp4wn> stdin: he can change it to /usr/bin/startkde anyway
[19:29] <[4N93L]> emiry: try the server irc.efnet.net
[19:29] <h3sp4wn> (if he wants kde) and just use xdm
[19:29] <emiry> lemme see
[19:29] <flake> i just installed it, did ccsm and pulled up a control panel
[19:29] <flake> will let you know
[19:29] <lee_> ok  I think I got something lol, but I really need to smoot it out lol
[19:30] <lee_> its an affiramtive I have running
[19:30] <emiry> 4N93L:  thx.  ur the best
[19:30] <[4N93L]> h3sp4wn: does it matter if i select it from the Grub window ?
[19:30] <kudar> hey guys. my wireless is running really slow on kubuntu 7.10. any suggestions?
[19:30] <stdin> h3sp4wn: fluxbox adds an entry to kdm (usr/share/xsessions/fluxbox.desktop) so it should be started from there
[19:30] <techly> Hi. Does anyone know what package the mouse theme is in?
[19:31] <h3sp4wn> stdin: if you are running fluxbox there is no point in using kdm
[19:31] <lee_> eh ok now I can use cuby lol
[19:32] <stdin> h3sp4wn: why?
[19:32] <kudar> ok, nobody can help me then
[19:32] <[4N93L]> h3sp4wn: i just want to try the FluxBox for now,if i like it then ima replace kdm with it.
[19:32] <BigDaddy> hey guys, I have a weird error message. Anyone know what this means? (whatever_file) is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[19:33] <h3sp4wn> [4N93L]: fluxbox is not equivalent to kdm
[19:33] <stdin> BigDaddy: that's known
[19:33] <[4N93L]> kudar: try installing kWifiManager
[19:33] <BigDaddy> std
[19:33] <kudar> ok
[19:33] <BigDaddy> stdin: known issues?
[19:33] <stdin> BigDaddy: yeah, it's being worked on
[19:34] <emiry> i'm coming from mIRC... where are my private messages in Konversation?
[19:34] <BigDaddy> stdin: sweet, I really thought it was something I screwed up when I restored my /home
[19:34] <[4N93L]> h3sp4wn: i believe that only the interface is different .. do u use fluxbox ?
[19:34] <stdin> emiry: you'll see a new tab with the name of the person you're talking with
[19:34] <emiry> ok thx
[19:34] <BigDaddy> stdin: do you know if mounted drives not appearing on the desktop is a known issue as well?
[19:34] <h3sp4wn> stdin: would you use gdm with kde ?
[19:35] <lee_> eh ok how do I get cube up and running?
[19:35] <h3sp4wn> stdin: If you are going to use a light vm may as well user a light login manager
[19:35] <h3sp4wn> *wm
[19:35] <stdin> h3sp4wn: there's no reason either way, kdm and gdm work with kde and gnome (and others)
[19:35] <BigDaddy> h3sp4wn: I believe if you use gdm you lose the ability to do fast user switching
[19:36] <BigDaddy> h3sp4wn: in relation to KDE that is
[19:36] <stdin> h3sp4wn: from kubuntu kdm is pre-installed, to use anything else it would require disabling it and installing another. easier to stick with the one you have that works fine
[19:37] <stdin> BigDaddy: I think that's config in  System Settings > Desktop > Behaviour > Device Icons
[19:37] <lee_> stdin ok how do I enable the Cube?
[19:37] <lee_> I found its settings, cube shadow and reflection and such, but
[19:37] <stdin> lee_: it's a setting in compiz, run ccsm to find it (I don't use compiz)
[19:37] <BigDaddy> stdin: yeah I have that set to show them, but they do not appear. However if I manually redo the mount on a partition, they all appear
[19:38] <kudar> [4N93L]: do you mean kwlan? i dont see kwifimanager in add or remove programs
[19:38] <stdin> BigDaddy: I've heard of something like that happening sometimes, don't think anyone really knows why
[19:38] <h3sp4wn> stdin: I don't see the issue with using .xsession or .xinitrc (been the way to do things for years now - why change something that is perfectly simple)
[19:38] <[4N93L]> kudar: there is a kWifiManager
[19:39] <[4N93L]> kudar: i installed it two days ago. :|
[19:39] <stdin> BigDaddy: check the bug reports ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu )
[19:39] <kudar> i found it
[19:39] <kudar> wow
[19:39] <stdin> h3sp4wn: because that forces it to start when you may not want it to
[19:39] <lee_> WHAT THE !Info: No sexy-python package found, don't worry it's optional.! taht    waht I got whe nI tried CCSM
[19:39] <h3sp4wn> stdin: Yeah but kde or gdm may not be enabled on some random system at some point you may have to use
[19:40] <h3sp4wn> stdin: my may works across the board
[19:40] <flake> for kde, should i go with screenlets, adesklets,  ?
[19:40] <[4N93L]> h3sp4wn: could it be done or not? switching from FluxBox to KDE and vise-versa using the Grub ?
[19:41] <stdin> h3sp4wn: is kdm/gdm/xdm wasn't enabled, then they'd find the way to start it them selfs
[19:41] <BigDaddy> lol, the bugs page is moving slower than syrup in january
[19:41] <flake> 4N93L - if you have two installations, if only one you can switch at the login screen
[19:41] <tvw> Hi I just booted the kubuntu 7.10-CD and find myself in a login-screen. What should I enter here. I cannot find any documentation about this.
[19:42] <kudar> 4N94L: kwifimanager says there are no networks?
[19:42] <h3sp4wn> [4N93L]: You could use a script to do it I suppose
[19:42] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Though I have updated to Gutsy through Adept when I update the database it still says I have a version upgrade.
[19:42] <h3sp4wn> [4N93L]: And take something out of the kernel commandline
[19:42] <stdin> tvw: should auto-login, try user: ubuntu and blank password, if that doesn't work check the CD integrity
[19:42] <h3sp4wn> [4N93L]: Have a look at how knoppix cheatcodes work
[19:43] <stdin> Ertain: it's a known issue, the fix is waiting for the repos to re-open
[19:43] <[4N93L]> Looks like ima give it a try .. brb
[19:43] <[4N93L]> and if i dont show up,means that i messed it all up
[19:43] <[4N93L]> :)
[19:43] <Ertain> Thank you stdin.
[19:46] <NightBird> ok, so ndiswrapper isn't being loaded on boot up and I have to manually do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'  How can I set it up to do that automatically?
[19:46] <h3sp4wn> NightBird: /etc/modules is the easiest way
[19:46] <NightBird> ok
[19:47] <corfu_palma> hi
[19:47] <NightBird> sweet...
[19:47]  * NightBird will have to restart and find out if it worked...
[19:49] <Tigerstein> hy all, I just installed kubuntu, and kopete crashes everytime, I try to log in to msn
[19:50] <stdin> Tigerstein: 32 or 64bit?
[19:50] <Tigerstein> 32
[19:50] <stdin> Tigerstein: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb < install that package to fix
[19:51] <jonna> How do I remove compiz. I installed it with "compiz --replace".
[19:52] <stdin> jonna: "kwin --replace" will bring kwin back, use adept to remove the packages
[19:52] <frank23> what's a good rss feed media agregator? Miro is really unstable and penguintv crashes on load. Amarok works but can.t play videos directly.
[19:52] <sub[t]rnl> killall compiz will kill the process, sudo apt-get --purge remove compiz* can remove it or use adept like stdin said
[19:52] <Minnozz> I am following a guide to let my mobile phone connect with my broadband internet, but I need to put an entry in /etc/network/interfaces . How do I know the name of the bluetooth dongle? ('name' as in 'wlan0', 'eth1' etc)
[19:52] <vbgunz> anyone know what can cause tty 1 through 6 to break? I only see a blinking underscore on these terminals. any one know whats up?
[19:53] <sub[t]rnl> vbgunz: do you pass a vga= in grubs menu.lst?
[19:53] <stdin> vbgunz: sometimes disabling usplash can fix that too
[19:53] <Gun_Smoke> New to kde.. Where to I find the compiz manager?
[19:53] <sub[t]rnl> !compiz | Gun_Smoke
[19:53] <ubotu> Gun_Smoke: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[19:53] <Gun_Smoke> sub[t]rnl: Thank you.
[19:54] <sub[t]rnl> stdin: have you read anything more about the framebuffer deal with gutsy's current kernel?
[19:54] <lee_> well, I have figured out everything but the cube lol
[19:54] <jonna> Thanks for the help! Compiz was nice but it crashed to much for me. :(
[19:54] <trans_> hi
[19:54] <sub[t]rnl> stdin: for some reason if you use a vga= tty's go dead.
[19:55] <lee_> jonna you need to down load a few things
[19:55] <sub[t]rnl> hopefully they get it sorted out
[19:55] <lee_> sub[t]rnl ah just the oerson I need to see lol
[19:55] <stdin> sub[t]rnl: I never use the framebuffer, it's always been buggy. check if it's been reported in launchpad (if they don't know about it, they can't fix it)
[19:56] <sub[t]rnl> stdin: kk, I've been trying to track it, seems its still an open bug
[19:56] <sub[t]rnl> kernel team's on it
[19:56] <lee_> sub[t]rnl I have everything enabled but I cant see cube
[19:56] <jonna> lee_:   i don't think it was a problem with not installing everything. kde-window-decorator keep crashing now and then. works fine for a while.
[19:56] <lee_> ah I see
[19:56] <vbgunz> sub[t]rnl: I pass vga=791, that has always worked though since dapper
[19:57] <vbgunz> stdin: how do you disable usplash? is that the gui 'kubuntu' loading screen?
[19:57] <sub[t]rnl> vbgunz: with gutsy's default kernel?
[19:57] <vbgunz> sub[t]rnl: yes, I pass vga=791 on gutsy
[19:57] <draik> How are the 7.10 servers? Too heavy to smoothly upgrade?
[19:57] <trans_> i just installed gutsy-amd64 on my computer (4600 X2) and to get it to work i had to use the nolapic boot option.  Isn't that not good to use on a dual core?  Is there a way i might avoid the issue using something else?
[19:57] <NightBird> I've not had problems with normal updates and installs as of late... but I don't know about a fresh upgrade...
[19:57] <sub[t]rnl> vbgunz: interesting, it was able to work for you out of the box?
[19:58] <stdin> vbgunz: yeah, you just remove the all the instances of the word "splash" from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:58] <lee_> well I have all the effects in place I just can't kick in the cube its self
[19:59]  * lee_ kicks the monitor
[19:59] <vbgunz> sub[t]rnl: yes. out of the box. now sure what happened that caused this to happen. I've seen this before by never getting to X *but* that was because I had something in my xorg DRI mode 0666 or something like that
[20:00] <vbgunz> stdin: I can try that
[20:01] <vbgunz> brb, am going to try with no splash
[20:01] <sub[t]rnl> bug #122910
[20:01] <stdin> no bug bot reports in here ;)
[20:02] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[20:02] <stdin> Launchpad bug 122910 in hiki "Please sync hiki (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122910
[20:02] <AkiraYB> Hey, I have a problem with flash movies freezing both, Firefox and Konqueror... My MPlayer freeze too when I usa ao=alsa, using ao=arts works well. Anyone know something about this?!
[20:03] <frank23> what's a good rss feed media agregator? Miro is really unstable and penguintv crashes on load. Amarok works but can.t play videos directly.
[20:03] <lee_> !info cube
[20:03] <ubotu> Package cube does not exist in gutsy
[20:03] <lee_> erg
[20:03] <grul> !info internet
[20:03] <ubotu> Package internet does not exist in gutsy
[20:03] <AkiraYB> I think whis is a problem with my sound card and Alsa... But, I don't know.
[20:03] <lee_> eh how do I get the CUBE
[20:03] <grul> :_______________<
[20:03] <AkiraYB> *this
[20:03] <stdin> for help with compiz ask in #compiz-effects
[20:03] <lee_> >.<
[20:04] <[4N93L]> stdin: the Grub had duplicated but none had fluxbox on it .. now i checked on the apt-get and it doesnt show FluxBox as installed. :S
[20:04] <stdin> erm, it's actuallt #compiz-fusion
[20:04] <lee_> eh no ones in th3ee
[20:04] <lee_> there
[20:04] <stdin> [4N93L]: grub won't show it, KDM will
[20:04] <lee_> its totally empty
[20:04] <stdin> lee_: #compiz-fusion not -effects
[20:04] <sub[t]rnl> their hiding
[20:04] <sub[t]rnl> they're too
[20:05] <Do0oDz> plz can anyone help me with VMware ?
[20:06] <stdin> !vmware
[20:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[20:06] <AkiraYB> Anyway, I like to try recompile Alsa 1.0.15... Is there any way to create a package from debconfs of Alsa 1.0.14 easily?
[20:07] <tysonsw> Any1 got a tip on how to make the kubuntu realise that the right cd is in the tray?? I am trying to play Wc3 but all i get is a message that sais that I should push in the wight cd
[20:07] <tysonsw> right*
[20:07] <[4N93L]> stdin: i couldnt find anything on kdm that would be changeable to fluxbox. :\
[20:08] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: Hum... I think this is because the mount point of the drive is dynamic and Wine is not prepared for that.
[20:08] <AkiraYB> I think...
[20:08] <Ashex> Is there any way to get rid of Kontact and use the apps seperatly?
[20:08] <tysonsw> AkiraYB any ide how to fix that?
[20:08] <[4N93L]> on the Shutdown tab, there is an option for the Boot-Manager .. would it affect anything if i changed it to Lilo??
[20:09] <stdin> [4N93L]: KDM is the login screen, before you login
[20:09] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: You can add the mount point (/media/wc3 ?) to Wine's configuration for a simple workaround.
[20:10] <FOAD> Whew, moving to gutsy sure is a bit of a hardship. :(
[20:10] <[4N93L]> stdin: i restarted and tried it,there is a duplicate of the main one that i login to .. i tried them both but they're the same
[20:10] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: Or edit the configuration of HAL to mount every time in /media/cdrom, for example...
[20:10] <FOAD> Since going gutsy, my USB drives stopped automounting.  How do I fix it so they automount again?
[20:10] <vbgunz> sub[t]rnl: I've narrowed it down to vga=791
[20:10] <tysonsw> AkiraYB HAL?
[20:11] <tysonsw> !HAL
[20:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:11] <[4N93L]> !fluxbox
[20:11] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[20:11] <vbgunz> but that alwasy worked. its the largest resolution I could get in the terminal otherwise, the res is so poor, everything is so big :(
[20:11] <AkiraYB> Hardware Abstract Layer.
[20:11] <lee_> eg had to log fer a sec..but yeah its checked waht was taht channel again?
[20:11] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: Hardware Abstract Layer.
[20:11] <vbgunz> vga=791 worked since dapper, edgy and feisty. it seems to be the cause of the blinking underscore in gutsy though :(
[20:11] <stdin> [4N93L]: make sure you installed fluxbox, I just installed it and selected "fluxbox" from the menu in KDM and it started fluxbox
[20:11] <tysonsw> AkiraYB were can I find that one?
[20:11] <FOAD> Nobody knows?
[20:12] <[4N93L]> stdin: thanks anyways
[20:12] <sub[t]rnl> vbgunz: yeah vesab is broke in gutsy's kernel right now
[20:12] <picca> does kubuntu use kaffeine as its default video player
[20:12] <lee_> stdin ahh flux box eh?
[20:12] <blendtux> vbgunz: are your fonts in the terminal big ?
[20:12] <edenbeast> FOAD:   are you getting errors in dmesg?
[20:12] <vbgunz> blendtux: yes, amazing big
[20:12] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: I will try to find some tutorial...
[20:12] <FOAD> edenbeast: no
[20:12] <blendtux> i have the same problem
[20:13] <vbgunz> it's hard to edit text or do anything with everything so big
[20:13] <blendtux> did you narrow it down what the problem is
[20:13] <edenbeast> FOAD: could you start hal to make sure that that's not the issue? :-/
[20:13] <FOAD> edenbeast: if I plug in something _after_ booting and all, everything starts up at once.
[20:13] <vbgunz> I will try 790 and and worse comes to worse, 773
[20:13] <tysonsw> AkiraYB thx.. I made the wine autodetect what drives there weere.. so lets see  after the installation if it works
[20:13] <FOAD> Or at least, everything shows on the desktop
[20:13] <FOAD> Still ahve to click on the icons to actually mount them
[20:13] <vbgunz> brb
[20:13] <blendtux> oke
[20:14] <FOAD> edenbeast: I'm a noob, how?
[20:14] <edenbeast> ah
[20:14] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: Yeap... But everytime the disc name changes you'll have to reconfigure Wine. But is a simple workaround. :D
[20:14] <edenbeast> sudo /etc/init.d/hal start
[20:14] <tysonsw> AkiraYB can't you set the name to transparent+
[20:15] <edenbeast> damn WWE is so different without colorcommentary :P
[20:15] <FOAD> Let's see
[20:15] <tysonsw> AkiraYB for the moment its name is /media/cdrom0
[20:15] <edenbeast> FOAD: it'll probably say that it has started already though
[20:16] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: The disc is monted there?!
[20:16] <tysonsw> AkiraYB yes
[20:16] <edenbeast> vbgunz did you make progress with the permissions thing? :-)
[20:16] <FOAD> edenbeast: indeed
[20:16] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: Well then... That's right, then... :D
[20:17] <FOAD>  * Starting Hardware abstraction layer hald                                             /usr/sbin/hald already running.
[20:17] <FOAD>                                                                                  [ OK ]
[20:17] <makuseru> hi, i have a Toshiba Gigabeat mp3 player, and when i connect it (via USB) it shows up as a camera and than i cant open the folder to put any songs on it or anything, how can i get this to display properly, as just another drive that i can put files in
[20:18] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: In Gutsy HAL mounts in /media/disc_name ... Then, changing everytime. So Wine don't know what's the correct mount point of the disc drive.
[20:18] <tysonsw> AkiraYB but stil it sais that The frozen throne was unable to locate your cd-rom drive. Please make sure you Frozen Trone is in your CD->ROM drive, then klick retry
[20:18] <edenbeast> AkiraYB: you can set up rules to make certain devices always mount at the same mount point
[20:19] <AkiraYB> edenbeast: Yeap... :D
[20:19] <edenbeast> AkiraYB: udev rules
[20:19] <FOAD> But again, when I plug in a device (or turn the power on), every device appears on the desktop.
[20:19] <edenbeast> which reminds me could you do sudo /etc/init.d/udev start FOAD
[20:19] <FOAD> Although they're still not in /media then, I gotta click on them to make that happen.
[20:20] <edenbeast> maybe it's udev :-/
[20:20] <FOAD> I thought udev ruled? ;)
[20:20]  * FOAD makes a note
[20:20] <edenbeast> FOAD is this a new install or an upgrade from feisty btw?
[20:20] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: You follow the instructions that's in wine page?!
[20:20] <FOAD> Completely new install.
[20:20] <FOAD> The upgrade broke everything so I had no choice.
[20:20] <edenbeast> FOAD no idea, udev/hal is such black magic still :-(
[20:21] <edenbeast> at least to me
[20:21] <FOAD> It worked fine in feisty.
[20:21] <FOAD> Ok.
[20:21] <cash> Hello
[20:21] <FOAD> Thanks for the suggestions. :)
[20:21] <cash> I have issue with knetwork
[20:21] <juhana> adept started version upgrade, but then cancelled it and sain that my system is already up to date. used beta. whats going on?
[20:21] <edenbeast> I think feisty still used ivman to mount it all
[20:22] <edenbeast> FOAD you could install ivman and see if that solves your problems
[20:22] <shakey> what is linux?
[20:22] <tysonsw> AkiraYB I found in the wine config that the cd-rom in advanced mood stood in hard drive.. it should stand in cd rom.. now it works.. but it staled
[20:22] <blendtux> shakey: what do you mean, what is linux?
[20:22] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: Weird...
[20:22] <shakey> blendtux: im just messin around
[20:22] <edenbeast> he means wat is GNU/linux ;P
[20:22] <FOAD> I will try that.
[20:23] <vbgunz> damn... vga=791 does not work for tty 1 through 6. I get a blinking underscore. 790 is unknown and 773 also does not work... what are the valid vga options I can use in Gutsy?
[20:23] <edenbeast> haha
[20:23] <shakey> im not complete nub sauce
[20:23] <FOAD> Thanks again. :)
[20:23] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: Don't know what could be, then...
[20:23] <vbgunz> shakey: linux is a kernel
[20:23] <cash> After update from 7.04 to 7.10 - knetwork doesent show me Wlan networks - and icon (connection established) is always active - in the case - when Im offline too .And after connect to the inet in office ,when I homeI need many times set cable in my Lan card =((
[20:23] <shakey> yea i know
[20:23] <edenbeast> FOAD it could also be your policies file
[20:23] <vbgunz> anyone know what vga options are good for use in Gutsy?
[20:23] <FOAD> edenbeast: where would it be, if I had such a beast?
[20:23] <edenbeast> FOAD could you do md5sum /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi
[20:24] <FOAD> edenbeast: you want the result of that?
[20:24] <cash> help me plz ( I already tired switch settings every day
[20:24] <AkiraYB> tysonsw: Sorry...
[20:24] <edenbeast> FOAD that gives me e8364a4d5ef1d2c6e2c0ab6067a8e835 as result if you get something else then that means you have differences and the problem could lie there since that's where is defined what to do with certain volumes
[20:24] <FOAD> e8364a4d5ef1d2c6e2c0ab6067a8e835  /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi
[20:25] <edenbeast> so that's not it :-/
[20:25] <FOAD> Ok.
[20:25] <FOAD> I'll try ivman
[20:25] <cash> Anybody see my messages?
[20:25] <AkiraYB> Anyone use CA0106 for sound driver?!
[20:26] <tysonsw> AkiraYB its ok
[20:26] <blendtux> vbgunz:  where did you change the vga setting
[20:26] <shakey> disciple
[20:26] <vbgunz> blendtux: one sec
[20:26] <shakey> streets
[20:27] <vbgunz> blendtux: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:27] <shakey> i dont care what u say, shuttleworth would so knock out steve woz
[20:27] <marty> hey
[20:27] <cash> Help !!SOS!!!
[20:27] <marty> there is someone to help me wit
[20:27] <marty> ubuntu 7.04
[20:27] <vbgunz> blendtux: around line 90, look for # defoptions
[20:27]  * shakey is runnin 7.04
[20:27] <blendtux> lol, what is your problem marty
[20:27] <edenbeast> cash what's the matter?
[20:27] <AkiraYB> Anyone use CA0106 for sound driver?!
[20:27] <vbgunz> blendtux: put in on that line but do not remove the comment
[20:27] <blendtux> oke
[20:27] <marty> i will post my error
[20:27] <marty> in console
[20:27] <blendtux> no
[20:28] <blendtux> use pasebin marty
[20:28]  * shakey anticipates marty's post
[20:28] <vbgunz> blendtux: once you put in your desired vga, do not uncomment, close the file and then run 'sudo update-grub'
[20:28] <cash> edenbeast After update from 7.04 to 7.10 - knetwork doesent show me Wlan networks - and icon (connection established) is always active - in the case - when Im offline too .And after connect to the inet in office ,when I homeI need many times set cable in my Lan card =((
[20:29]  * shakey installed kde4 beta last night
[20:29] <vbgunz> I think I might know what the problem is and again I think* it falls back onto xorg
[20:30] <blendtux> oke, vbgunz, and what is the solution for that
[20:30] <shakey> !blender
[20:30] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[20:30] <AmyRose> shakey: Can you get further with it than I did?
[20:30] <shakey> AmyRose: no lol, I couldnt even get kicker to show up
[20:30] <shakey> i was able to look at 2 plasmoids and that was it really
[20:30] <vbgunz> blendtux: solution for what?
[20:30] <blendtux> for your big font problem
[20:30] <AmyRose> shakey: It doesn't use Kicker anymore :(
[20:30] <shakey> ahhhhh!
[20:30] <cash> Give me solution ! regards knetwork pleaseEE!
[20:31] <shakey> lol well then
[20:31] <AmyRose> shakey: They told me on #kde that they are working on a K menu plasmoid for us
[20:31] <vbgunz> blendtux: oh, sorry, I do not have option "NvAGP" "1" in my xorg... am going to try that now
[20:31] <shakey> ah yea, i remember seeing a plasmoid for application launcher or something like that
[20:31] <AkiraYB> !flash
[20:31] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:31] <kudar> installed ndiswrapper from add or remove programs but it doesn't open
[20:31] <edenbeast> doesn't that disable agp?
[20:31] <AmyRose> shakey: I think we better stick to KDE 3.5.8 + compiz if we want fancy for now ;)
[20:32] <shakey> haha, compiz is cool, but i save that for my desktop
[20:32]  * shakey on the laptop right now
[20:32] <jawee_> I just upgraded to gusty
[20:32] <jawee_> and now KNetworkManager isn't recognizing my wireless
[20:32] <vbgunz> blendtux: will let you know if that worked
[20:32] <AmyRose> shakey: My desktop is incapable of Compiz--it's a Pentium II. My laptop is a Pentium 4 with GeForce 4 graphics. Now, see I can't do what you do :P
[20:32] <cash> jawee_ For me TOO
[20:32] <blendtux> yep goodluck
[20:32] <edenbeast> I wish I could upgrade to Dusty Gibbons :D
[20:32] <shakey> hahaha
[20:32] <jawee_> I had installed a driver and typed in sudo modprobe bcm43xx and then knetworkmanager registered it instantly
[20:33] <draik> Is there a way I can listen to a voicemail message with Kubuntu?
[20:33] <jawee_> so I had that run on startup
[20:33] <jawee_> but now it isn't there
[20:33] <AmyRose> shakey: It's more convenient for me to do it on my laptop anyway because I can show it at school :D
[20:33] <draik> I want to dial my voicemail and have it recorded and saved to my desktop
[20:33] <jawee_> Ut just says "No active device"
[20:33] <jawee_> sudo iwlist scan shows my network
[20:33] <shakey> yea, i used it at work, it really is useful
[20:33] <shakey> especially when you have a lot of windows open, the cube is invaluable
[20:34] <AmyRose> draik: You could buy Wengo or Skype minutes... other than that, i don't know
[20:34] <AmyRose> !wengophone
[20:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wengophone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:34] <jawee_> any ideas anyone?
[20:34] <knap> buonasera a tutto il canale
[20:34] <AmyRose> !it | knap
[20:34] <ubotu> knap: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:34] <AmyRose> !anything`
[20:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything` - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:34] <AmyRose> lol
[20:35] <knap> hello to all
[20:35] <Gun_Smoke1> exit
[20:35] <AmyRose> knap: Hello to you
[20:36] <mohamed> hey guys  does any body know a winscp like software for ubuntu and it should be gui.
[20:36] <blendtux> yes mohamed
[20:36] <edenbeast> mohamed use the ssh fuse extension? sshfs? :-)
[20:36] <AmyRose> mohamed: You can use sftp://host in Konqueror
[20:36] <blendtux> use putty for linux
[20:36] <knap> hi AmyRose
[20:36] <AmyRose> mohamed: You can also do it in Nautilus, but I'm not sure how
[20:36] <AmyRose> mohamed: gftp also works with SSH
[20:37] <AmyRose> knap: Do you have any questions?
[20:37] <shakey> lol
[20:37] <mohamed> i'm really newbie and all of this things seems complicated :)
[20:37] <blendtux> mohamed: putty for linux, you can install it allso on windows
[20:37] <knap> not have questions Amy
[20:37] <AmyRose> blendtux: But mohamed seems to be asking about file transfer, because that's what winscp does
[20:37] <blendtux> so mohamed then you have the same app's on different os's
[20:38] <AmyRose> mohamed: Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[20:38] <mohamed> I think AmyRose got it tifht
[20:38] <mohamed> right
[20:38] <blendtux> you can configure putty to open a file manager i thought AmyRose
[20:38] <AmyRose> mohamed: Which one?
[20:38] <mohamed> I use kubunut
[20:38] <mohamed> I need for file transfer for a school project
[20:38] <knap> 	
[20:38] <knap> Today I installed the new version of kubuntu July 10 gutsy and everything went well
[20:38] <AmyRose> mohamed: OK, just hit Alt-F2 and type sftp://user@host and it will open a file manager for you
[20:38] <cash> who can help me with Knetwork
[20:38] <cash> ?
[20:39] <AmyRose> mohamed: It's definitely easier than winscp
[20:39]  * shakey needs to focus on school paper
[20:39] <mohamed> it give me an error, let me try again
[20:39] <kudar> anyone have a clue why ndiswrapper program wont open when i execute it?
[20:40] <edenbeast> mohamed: or use sshfs http://sysblogd.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/ubuntu-mounting-remote-filesystem-using-sshfs-fuse/ http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/  but if it's just for a 1-time transfer, try sftp first
[20:40] <AmyRose> edenbeast: Uh, that's harder than using Konqueror or Dolphin to do it.
[20:40] <vbgunz> im having no luck at all with the grub framebuffer... it appears I might have to go as low I can go when it comes to res :/
[20:40] <AmyRose> edenbeast: mohamed asked for a GUI
[20:41] <blendtux> ehm, that is too bad, but i guess you did not had the problem with dapper or edgy
[20:41] <blendtux> when did it started vbgunz
[20:42] <alromaithi> oh man it hought i wouldnt come here
[20:42] <shakey> is there a way to figure out what version of apache you are running?
[20:42] <alromaithi> i just got Kubuntu i dont see compiz!!! :(
[20:42] <shakey> through the command line
[20:42] <draik> AmyRose: How would I record what comes through Skype?
[20:42] <vbgunz> blendtux: it started in gutsy
[20:42] <edenbeast> apachectl --version? :-)
[20:42] <AmyRose> draik: I'm not sure
[20:42] <vbgunz> I always had vga=791 since dapper with no problems
[20:42] <draik> AmyRose: Thanks.
[20:42] <AmyRose> draik: You should be able to do it with a sound recording tool
[20:43] <alromaithi> please anybody help me get Compiz working , i went in all the settings 1 by 1 i dont see Enable compiz somewere
[20:43] <draik> How do I record what comes through Skype? I want to record a voicemail message on my computer. My mic is dead.
[20:43] <mohamed> Thanks Amy it's working fine, you are guys are the best(napoleaon Dynmite)
[20:43] <edenbeast> draik http://lengau.livejournal.com/2796.html
[20:43] <blendtux> strange strange, wich file was it
[20:43] <vbgunz> I'll vga=ask
[20:43] <AmyRose> mohamed: You're welcome.
[20:43] <sub[t]rnl> vbgunz: just take vga out
[20:44] <sub[t]rnl> vbgunz: vesab framebuffering with the gutsy kernel is buggy
[20:44] <alromaithi> guys how to enable compiz please :( Kubuntu Gutsy
[20:44] <AmyRose> !compiz | alromaithi
[20:44] <ubotu> alromaithi: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[20:44] <sub[t]rnl> alromaithi: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:45] <sub[t]rnl> alromaithi: then alt+f2 and run compiz or create a sym link in your ~/.kde/Autostart directory
[20:45] <alromaithi> sub[t]rnl: will i see the icon on my system tray like in kubuntu 7.4?
[20:45] <lavacano201014> hmmm
[20:45] <lavacano201014> maybe i can get beryl to work under compiz
[20:45] <lavacano201014> maybe
[20:45] <sub[t]rnl> alromaithi: theres a seperate package out for the system tray icon in kubuntu I think
[20:45] <sub[t]rnl> can't remember how I got it
[20:45] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[20:45] <sub[t]rnl> for compiz
[20:46] <alromaithi> :(
[20:46] <alromaithi> what about KDE 4.0 is it good for download yet?
[20:46] <edenbeast> btw is there any way to have kwallet also accept your logging into kde as authentication?
[20:46] <shakey> alromaithi: i woudl wait
[20:46] <seanix> hi, anyone having problems with the menu? (i have really long text descriptions that make it no fun to use)
[20:46] <AmyRose> !kde4
[20:46] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[20:46] <cash> http://rafb.net/p/ZMTK1u55.html please look
[20:47] <alromaithi> sub[t]rnl: so i do this sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager ?? dont i need emerald or this Gutsy can take care of decoration for me?
[20:47] <seanix> is this the help channel for kubuntu 7.10? thanks :)
[20:47] <mohamed> what is the command to creat a new folder
[20:47] <alromaithi> should i get the kde window decorater through adept sub[t]rnl ?
[20:47] <AmyRose> alromaithi: compiz-kde includes a KDE decorator, but you can still install the emerald package
[20:47] <Admiral_Chicago> alromaithi: i just tested beta 3, nothing too good yet
[20:47] <sub[t]rnl> alromaithi: thats just to get the basics up and running, apt-get emerald and the extra plugins if you want
[20:47] <sub[t]rnl> i would
[20:47] <edenbeast> mohamed mkdir if you're on a cli
[20:48] <lavacano201014> well that solved my adept problem
[20:48] <utnubuk> is there an easy way to install KDE desktop and uninstall all packages that were installed on the gnome desktop?
[20:48] <Al> Can I upgrade just by s/feisty/gutsy/g in sources.list and setting apt-get off?
[20:48] <seanix> is anybody running kubuntu 7.10?
[20:48] <Al> Because adept is *rubbish*
[20:48] <lavacano201014> utnubuk: sudo apt-get install kde
[20:48] <lavacano201014> then login to kde
[20:48] <utnubuk> i know installing the KDE is easy, more concerned about removing gnome packages...
[20:48] <lavacano201014> and sudo apt-get remove gnome
[20:49] <neversfelde_> utnubuk: install it with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[20:49] <Al> lavacano201014, you mean install kubuntu-desktop
[20:49] <utnubuk> thanks lavacano
[20:49] <lavacano201014> ah
[20:49] <tysonsw> quick help on how to get ati drivers??
[20:49] <Al> and remove ubuntu-desktop
[20:49] <Al> :)
[20:49] <edenbeast> Al: yes, but you'll need to do a dist-upgrade, not a regular upgrade
[20:49] <Al> aye
[20:49] <lavacano201014> i thought he just wanted to switch to kde
[20:49] <Al> that's what I was expecting.
[20:49] <Al> ta
[20:49] <alromaithi> sub[t]rnl:  idont think emerald is worth getting , friends i know in msn complaining and regreted for installing emerald , they say you cant disable it and go for normal kde decoration ,because they dont have that Compiz Systemtray Icon which they had in feisty
[20:49] <Al> alromaithi, that's not true
[20:49]  * lavacano201014 has KDE, GNOME and AfterStep
[20:49] <Al> I use Emerald and I can change to the KDE decorator if I want.
[20:49] <AmyRose> alromaithi: I use Emerald all the time
[20:49] <seanix> does nobody know how to fix the menu bug in kubuntu7.10? strange ...
[20:50]  * h3sp4wn would not trust apt-get for a dist-upgrade like that (only aptitude)
[20:50] <alromaithi> AmyRose: and can u disable and go for KDE decoration coz kde decoration has more fancy looks forexample Vista Look
[20:50] <seanix> can you guys see this message????????????????????????????
[20:50] <AmyRose> alromaithi: No.
[20:50] <edenbeast> ? I thought aptitude used apt-get? :P
[20:50] <seanix> helllo!!!
[20:50] <blubb> I was just reading about the gutsy version and I'm wondering how i can disable strigi and install konqueror by default?
[20:50] <blubb> seanix: yes
[20:50] <edenbeast> is it not just a GUI front then?
[20:50] <seanix> ahhh cool
[20:50] <blubb> seanix: we can
[20:50] <tysonsw> quick help on how to get ati drivers??
[20:51] <seanix> i thought i was invisible (again like spiderman)
[20:51] <alromaithi> so you cant disable right? emerald is a lock on compiz , ? AmyRose? if you can disable means you got that compiz icon system tray which is near the sound volume control which i really want to know how to get it on Kubuntu
[20:51] <seanix> am i the only one who has extra long path names in the kde menu??
[20:51] <Gun_Smoke> well... compiz seemed to break everything...
[20:51] <seanix> please someone help me fix this :)
[20:51] <AmyRose> alromaithi: Yeah, I installed the tray icon
[20:51] <AmyRose> !manners | seanix
[20:51] <ubotu> seanix: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:52] <AmyRose> seanix: You may want to go to the panel settings dialog and set the menu display options
[20:52] <tysonsw> quick help on how to get ati drivers??
[20:52] <edenbeast> I have no idea seanix, my menus are working fine, are you running an upgrade or a new install? :-/
[20:52] <alromaithi> AmyRose: how to install tray icon and this command sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager is not enough !!! i dont see snow or desktop cube ect... :( i thought compiz will come fully like ubuntu Gutsy
[20:52] <edenbeast> tysons they're in the menu for aplications to install now :-)
[20:53] <edenbeast> the KDE>add/remove programs thnigie
[20:53] <AmyRose> alromaithi: They didn't include the tray icon for some stupid reason...
[20:53] <mohamed> what is the text  editor for kubuntu
[20:53] <seanix> i have tried new installs of kubuntu 7.10 32/64bit versions and both display the path in almost every menu entry (except new programs i add)
[20:53] <AmyRose> mohamed: kate
[20:53] <edenbeast> kate
[20:53] <alromaithi> now im lost :(
[20:53] <sub[t]rnl> alromaithi: open adept manager and put in compiz, then you'll see all the extra's. or do an adept-cache search compiz.
[20:53] <sub[t]rnl> look around
[20:53] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[20:53] <mohamed> Thanks, I think I'm going to thank you guys for a million time
[20:54] <sub[t]rnl> apt-cache search even
[20:54] <alromaithi> AmyRose: i typed compiz --replace and now i dont see titlebars lol
[20:54] <blubb> can I just uninstall dolphin and install konqueror?
[20:54] <utnubuk> i've seen the screenshot of KDE 4 with the widgets, anyone know if they are going to include something similar to OS X expose?
[20:54] <utnubuk> i love that feature
[20:54] <edenbeast> blubb: konqueror isn't gone
[20:55] <blubb> edenbeast: but it won't be default?
[20:55] <tysonsw> edenbeast: I need to get the drivers to install what is the command or that?
[20:55] <edenbeast> blubb but you'll need to set it as default application
[20:55] <blubb> edenbeast: how and where?
[20:55] <alromaithi> sub[t]rnl AmyRose : PLease :( now after ALT F2 i did compiz --replace and now i dont see title
[20:55] <blubb> I could just unistall dolphin?
[20:55] <alromaithi> whats the commnad to disbale compiz just for this session
[20:56] <blubb> another question, can I boot my old kernel from feisty with gutsy?
[20:56] <AmyRose> blubb: Konqueror's a better web browser than anything else! *ducks*
[20:56] <shakey> alromaithi:  hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[20:56] <sub[t]rnl> AmyRose: !!
[20:56] <alromaithi> that is to reset X
[20:56]  * shakey agrees that konqueror pwnz
[20:56] <tysonsw> Any1 know how I could install ati drivers?
[20:56] <sub[t]rnl> blasphemy!
[20:56] <blubb> AmyRose: yes but dolphin is not yet ready... and anyway konqueror rocks...
[20:56] <shakey> alromaithi: yea reset X and try again
[20:56] <Kachna> anyone using audacity over here?
[20:56] <edenbeast> blubb go to konqueror>preferences>File Associations, there change inode/directory to konqueror
[20:56] <AmyRose> blubb: Yeah, I have to agree, but I prefer the convenience of being able to configure Konqueror to act like a web browser
[20:56] <shakey>  i mean...compiz --replace was working for me last night
[20:56]  * lavacano201014 prefers Firefox over Konqueror
[20:57] <blubb> ok
[20:57] <shakey> konqueror is faster than ff
[20:57] <lavacano201014> as a web browser
[20:57]  * AmyRose wants to LART lavacano201014
[20:57]  * lavacano201014 wants to LART AmyRose
[20:57] <shakey> and it passed the acid2 test
[20:57] <lavacano201014> dammit
[20:57] <lavacano201014> i thought i disabled that script for this network
[20:57] <blendtux> guys use opera shakey and lavacano201014
[20:57] <AmyRose> O_o
[20:57] <mohamed> do you know why azurus doesn't work on ubuntu or kbunut?
[20:57] <blubb> what about the kernel question?
[20:57] <tysonsw> Any1 know how I could install ati drivers?
[20:57] <blendtux> brb need to reboot
[20:57] <edenbeast> tysonsw are you already in kubuntu 7.10? then click on your KD menu and select add/remove programs, it's in there :-)
[20:57] <Roey> hi all
[20:57] <AmyRose> blendtux: But opera messes up a bunch of blog sites
[20:57] <lavacano201014> just ##trangle
[20:57] <Roey> Goatse Gibbon
[20:57] <emilsedgh> Fx, not ff!
[20:57] <Roey> Horny Hardon
[20:57] <Roey> what'll be next?
[20:57] <shakey> ive been meaning to get opera
[20:57] <shakey> just lazy i guess
[20:57] <tysonsw> edenbeast I can't find it
[20:57] <utnubuk> roey - rofl
[20:57] <Roey> shakey:  opera has pkgs for Kubuntu
[20:58] <Roey> utnubuk:   :)
[20:58] <shakey> Roey: yea i know
[20:58] <Roey> ah
[20:58] <tysonsw> well.. I mean in the add/remove program
[20:58] <neversfelde_> I thougt abot a Hory Hippo
[20:58] <alromaithi> ok i see titlebars now
[20:58] <neversfelde_> +u +n
[20:58] <emilsedgh> tysonsw: on gutsy?
[20:58] <tysonsw> 'emilsedgh yes
[20:58] <AmyRose> It would be cooler if 8.04 was called the Hungry Hippo
[20:58] <AmyRose> :P
[20:58] <alromaithi> can any1 tell me how to get compiz icon tray ?
[20:58] <shakey> alromaithi: so you got it then?
[20:58] <Roey> you know what pisses me off?  That I can't get the NVidia driver packages working for my Geforce4 Ti-4200.  No one seems to have this card, Jesus
[20:58] <alromaithi> shakey: i got it but compiz is not working
[20:58] <shakey> alromaithi: no titlebars?
[20:59] <utnubuk> is it wise to restart after updates have installed?
[20:59] <alromaithi> shakey: i see the titlebars
[20:59] <mohamed> does azurus work for anybody
[20:59] <emilsedgh> tysonsw: i havent gutsy yet but you should be able to do it from SystemSettings, find Restricted Manager or Restricted Drivers at there
[20:59] <AmyRose> !nvidia | Roey
[20:59] <ubotu> Roey: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:59] <shakey> alromaithi: but compiz isnt working?
[20:59] <kamesh> Hi all, I have just done a fresh install of gutsy. Now both adept and ssh does not work. In fiesty it used to work. Do you think that apparmour is interfering in any way ?
[20:59] <lavacano201014> !compiz
[20:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[20:59] <Gun_Smoke> utnubuk: what updates?
[20:59] <AmyRose> !beryl
[20:59] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[20:59] <lavacano201014> ty ubotu
[20:59] <lavacano201014> i needed that url
[20:59] <utnubuk> Gun_Smoke: updates in general
[20:59] <shakey> that url needed u
[20:59] <Gun_Smoke> utnubuk: No need.
[21:00] <utnubuk> ty
[21:00] <shakey> !find opera | shakey
[21:00] <tysonsw> emilsedgh the problem I have is that wc3 lags a lot.. and I think the problem is the driver
[21:00] <AmyRose> shakey: It's in the Canonical commercial repo
[21:00] <shakey> ah
[21:00] <shakey> danke
[21:00] <Gun_Smoke> utnubuk: :)  If the kernel was updated than yes, but adapt will let you know.
[21:00] <AmyRose> shakey: No hablo alemán
[21:01] <utnubuk> Gun_Smoke: I guess I was too used to windows updates....
[21:01] <utnubuk> :)
[21:01] <blubb> can I boot my old kernel from feisty with gutsy?
[21:01] <alromaithi> i want to see compiz icon the blue box with the mouse pointer on my system traynear the volume :(
[21:01] <Gun_Smoke> utnubuk: yeah forget all that..
[21:01] <edenbeast> blubb it should work yes
[21:01] <AmyRose> shakey: That's "I don't speak German" in Spanish
[21:01] <blubb> edenbeast: ok, I was asking because I have some selfcompiled drivers... especially for wireless...
[21:02] <edenbeast> blubb why not just recompile them again?
[21:02] <Gun_Smoke> utnubuk: The most you should ever have to do is logout-login..
[21:02] <shakey> o haha howd you know i was googling it?
[21:02] <alromaithi> :(
[21:02] <edenbeast> it's possible that some services don't work with your older kernel if they expect something specific not in an older kernel (though that's probably rare)
[21:02] <edenbeast> but things like inotify and such
[21:03] <draik> edenbeast: I did what it said, but I was still not able to record.
[21:03] <blubb> edenbeast: of course I will do that... but if that fails I need a way to get a connection to the internet you know
[21:03] <kamesh> Can any one help me please... I have a problem with adebt and ssh.. both dont work.. I have just installed gutsy and tried searching on the internet but to no avail
[21:03] <AmyRose> shakey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-b75a0c6c7e357640731529980d3f3ad3614b9a76
[21:03] <edenbeast> draik then I don't know either draik :-/
[21:04] <AmyRose> shakey: well, sadly it's for GNOME but still, it will give you the idea, I hope
[21:04] <draik> edenbeast: Ok
[21:04] <shakey> yea thanks
[21:04] <alromaithi> i want to see compiz icon the blue box with the mouse pointer on my system traynear the volume :(
[21:04] <Gun_Smoke> utnubuk: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/linux/locutus/archives/why-linux-can-be-updated-without-rebooting-12826
[21:05] <shakey> is /etc/sources.lst where repositories are kept?
[21:05] <blubb> there are a lot of regressions with gutsy as far as I can see... I'm really not sure if this distro fits the needs of my gf :D
[21:05] <alromaithi> people come for Kubuntu to see simple results not Waste of time
[21:05] <Roey> AmyRose:  thanks
[21:05] <Roey> AmyRose:  I'll try it again
[21:05] <edenbeast> shakey: /etc/apt/sources.lst
[21:05] <AmyRose> Roey: ?
[21:05] <Roey> next version!  Kubuntu 8.0, "Kosher Ki**"
[21:05] <shakey> ah thanks
[21:05] <alromaithi> how to get that system tray AmyRose if you dont mind
[21:05] <Roey> nah
[21:06] <Roey> Livid Lemur
[21:06] <AmyRose> alromaithi: I'm trying to find the thread
[21:06] <Roey> Pompous Pig
[21:06] <alromaithi> o... :/
[21:06] <Roey> P is a funny sound.
[21:06] <Roey> P and K.
[21:06] <Roey> Everyone loves jokes that start with P and K
[21:06] <alromaithi> although i made a search
[21:06] <edenbeast> kooky kameleon :P
[21:06] <kamesh> Can any one help me please... I have a problem with adebt and ssh.. both dont work.. I have just installed gutsy and tried searching on the internet but to no avail
[21:06] <Roey> that's why our curse words have them :)
[21:06]  * Roey continues to spew nonsense vagaries into the channel...
[21:06] <AmyRose> alromaithi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-b75a0c6c7e357640731529980d3f3ad3614b9a76
[21:06] <tysonsw> Anyone know how I can get the latest ati driver+
[21:06] <AmyRose> oops
[21:06] <AmyRose> wrong URL
[21:07] <AmyRose> alromaithi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2994678&postcount=3
[21:07] <Roey> AmyRose:  nice nick, btw!
[21:07] <edenbeast> !ati | tysonsw
[21:07] <ubotu> tysonsw: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:07] <AmyRose> thanks, Roey
[21:07] <Roey> AmyRose:  what does it stand for?
[21:07] <edenbeast> tysonsw you could also use the envy package to install it for you
[21:07] <AmyRose> Roey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Rose
[21:07] <jack> Does anyone know how to get my Wacom tablet working with Nvidia's Twinview?
[21:07] <neighborlee> does kubuntu have the crash handler thing uubntu does I presume so,- but wanted to verify before trying kubuntu ...?? ;))
[21:07] <edenbeast> but I've had mixed results with envy in the past with my nvidia card
[21:07] <neighborlee>  a friend likes kde so I thought I would humor her so here I am
[21:08] <neighborlee> :)
[21:08] <alromaithi> AmyRose: i found the thread its typing this  git clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install
[21:08] <Roey> AmyRose:  nice :)
[21:08] <Roey> I don't know why, but cute
[21:08] <AmyRose> Roey: Amy Rose is a 12-year-old girl who can beat Dr. Robotnik alone :P
[21:09] <edenbeast> isn't this channel R-rated? :P
[21:09] <neighborlee> edenbeast: yes it is would you like to see some things ?
[21:09] <Roey> AmyRose:  awesome :)
[21:09] <neighborlee> edenbeast: NOT=
[21:09] <neighborlee> :)
[21:09] <mohamed> why do i have issue with firefox every time I try submit something
[21:10] <attunix> What libraries are needed to develop in QT?
[21:10] <neighborlee> attunix: qt-devel I suspect ;)
[21:10] <kamesh> Can any one help me please... I have a problem with adebt and ssh.. both dont work.. I have just installed gutsy and tried searching on the internet but to no avail
[21:10] <neighborlee> attunix: and if you wish kdevelop
[21:10] <attunix> neighborlee: thanks :)
[21:10] <neighborlee> yadda
[21:10] <tysonsw> edenbeast envy package??
[21:10] <neighborlee> attunix: np ;00
[21:11] <edenbeast> tysonsw: yes 'envy' but I'd follow the directions of the bot, they're probably better
[21:11] <attunix> neighborlee: what's kdevelop by the way?
[21:11] <attunix> i know it's an ide
[21:11] <neighborlee> attunix: its just a IDE
[21:11] <alromaithi> thanks
[21:11] <neighborlee> yw ;)
[21:11] <alromaithi> now after having git i can do this git clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install
[21:11] <AmyRose> neighborlee: It's a hard drive connector? :P
[21:11] <blubb> hmm the update manager gave an error about a dependency and crashed, what should I do?
[21:11] <kamesh> Does apparmor has any gui ?
[21:11] <neighborlee> AmyRose: LOL
[21:12] <tysonsw> ! envy
[21:12] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[21:12] <edenbeast> blubb run it again? :-/
[21:12] <blubb> edenbeast: ok I will try that
[21:12] <blubb> it said it crashed but its still here but hangs
[21:13] <blubb> shall I kill it?
[21:13] <AmyRose> I learned that factoid the hard way :P
[21:13] <blubb> shall I run an apt-get command to fix the dep issue?
[21:13] <mrb_> Hey everybody can anyone help me to know why my Linksys ADSL G modem not working under Kubuntu
[21:13] <neighborlee> AmyRose: heh
[21:13] <mohamed> who firefox keep crashing on me, any body has idea
[21:14] <Lars_G> Ok Hi all.. HELP HELP!!! no really I need some help. First question: After fetching packages, adept hung up configuring smbfs so I continued from the command line... most stuff work but my kde theme is half broken in that many icons are missing.
[21:14] <Lars_G> was there something from adept like changing the theme or reinstalling a theme I missed and I can do by hand?
[21:14] <neighborlee> AmyRose: yeah well we've all been down that lonely road of learning....funny when you look back and go OMGosh I did what ;))
[21:14] <blubb> hmm another process is running, I can't start adept_manager
[21:15] <edenbeast> haha I rm -rf / home/homedir/somedir/*  as root once  (notice the " ")  :P
[21:15] <hydrogen> Are there packages for gutsy of kernel 2.6.23? If not is there a "ubuntu recommended" way of upgrading the kernel to that?
[21:15] <PolitikerNEU> I got the following problem: I do neither have acces to wlan nor does the kpowersaved start
[21:15] <edenbeast> that wasn't a fun realisation hahaha
[21:15] <blubb> hmm who is acessing my apt thing?
[21:16] <Lars_G> blubb: Anything that uses the apt system will cause that. that is if you're running apt-get, synaptic, aptitude or another apt handler it will lock apt system and stop adept from starting
[21:16] <AmyRose> neighborlee: But there was no restricted device manager on Feisty and earlier!
[21:16] <PolitikerNEU> The Intel Chip is recognized because it worked in the livecd and in the first two boots - but now it doesn't work any longer
[21:16] <edenbeast> my god, you pervs keep out of his apt thing!
[21:16] <blubb> Lars_G: yes what is it? I mean the name of the update tool?
[21:16] <edenbeast> blubb can't you just kill the process? :-)
[21:16] <Lars_G> blubb: the update tool? yeah it will cause that too.
[21:16] <edenbeast> aptitude or adept?
[21:17] <Lars_G> the update tool is a modified version of adept I think or an offshot
[21:17] <Lars_G> or adept with a special command
[21:17] <neighborlee> so..does kde have a crash handler similar to the gnome thing i'd sure hope so..I know about kde thing but last I checked it  never sends in a report or even asks you to..unless that has changed ?
[21:17] <purpleposeidon> How do I kill the firewall, like, peramanently, forever, never see it again ever?
[21:17] <neighborlee> AmyRose: well that  doesn't bother me alot..I dont even like the term restrticted..it seems restrictive and I dont like my rights being terminated ;)
[21:17] <whip> hello
[21:18] <blubb> how can I fix that please http://pastebin.ca/744796
[21:18] <whip> are there skype mods on linux machines?
[21:18] <Minataku> hydrogen: You should know as well as anybody that compiling is (stupidly) ALWAYS discouraged on Kubuntu
[21:18] <Minataku> :P
[21:18] <Lars_G> was there something from adept like changing the theme or reinstalling a theme I missed and I can do by hand?
[21:18] <whip> i searching for mods  for skype/msn/or icq
[21:18] <edenbeast> hmm i didn't knew iptabes ran standard on kubuntu :-/
[21:18] <Lars_G> Ok Hi all.. HELP HELP!!! no really I need some help. First question: After fetching packages, adept hung up configuring smbfs so I continued from the command line... most stuff work but my kde theme is half broken in that many icons are missing.
[21:18] <whip> like mirande
[21:18] <hydrogen> Minataku: you should know as well as anyone that that answer is utterly useless
[21:18] <blubb> could I also run apt-get dist-upgrade instead of the update manager? or whats the command?
[21:19] <hydrogen> Minataku: and we all know that utterly useless answers are simply a waste of time
[21:19] <Minataku> Not my fault you can't take a joke
[21:19] <hydrogen> so, my question still stands
[21:19] <hydrogen> how do I get 2.6.23 on *buntu?
[21:19] <Minataku> I'm sure there's something about it in the bot
[21:19] <Minataku> You find it, though
[21:19] <hydrogen> !kernel
[21:19] <blubb> because adept-manager does not work any longer? wtf is going on here
[21:19] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[21:19] <edenbeast> purpleposeidon which firewall package have you installed?
[21:19] <Minataku> I don't want to accidentally waste your time
[21:19] <Minataku> >:|
[21:19] <whip> @hydrogen kernel compiling?
[21:19] <whip> get the new kubuntu
[21:19] <whip> 7.10
[21:19] <whip> gusty
[21:19] <hydrogen> that has 2.6.22
[21:19] <hydrogen> not 2.6.23
[21:19] <hydrogen> I want 2.6.23
[21:19] <edenbeast> purpleposeidon: you should stop iptables probably /etc/init.d/iptables?
[21:20] <whip> why do you want this?
[21:20] <purpleposeidon> edenbeast: I'm not really sure
[21:20] <Lars_G> hydrogen: compile 2.6.23 by hand
[21:20] <lorand> hey
[21:20] <whip> the stable kernel is based there
[21:20] <lorand> you have 3 D desktop for ubuntu  ?
[21:20] <whip> whow
[21:20] <Lars_G> whip: I bet you anything he wants the newer process manager
[21:20] <edenbeast> purpleposeidon: or just have it accept all traffic that's even easier :-)
[21:20]  * blubb now runs apt-get dist-upgrade and hopes that it works 
[21:20] <whip> compile it by hand ;)
[21:20] <hydrogen> Lars_G: Is ubuntu's patchset availible?
[21:20] <whip> yes use gcc
[21:20] <alromaithi> i have a problem :( Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:20] <edenbeast> purpleposeidon: I don't think kubuntu comes with a firewall enabled by default, someone correct me if I'm wrong please
[21:20] <whip> @oke lars
[21:20] <blubb> why is there no update channel?
[21:20] <alromaithi> the problem is nothing is on ? how to check if somhting is on i want to see my ssytem processess so i can close this LAGGED FROZEN THIGN!!!!
[21:20] <Minataku> Oh, I make a joke and get harassed, these two badger you with tons of crap and get ignored
[21:21] <hydrogen> whip: I know how to compile a kernel.  My question is how to do it the ubuntu way and hopefully get a kernel similar to the one ubuntu distributes, only based on a newer version.
[21:21] <Minataku> >:(
[21:21] <purpleposeidon> edenbeast: I think it's firestarter
[21:21] <jack> Can someone help me get my Wacom tablet working with Nvidia's TwinView?
[21:21] <Minataku> AFAIK, Kubuntu uses the make option that configures EVERYTHING as a module
[21:21] <alromaithi> how to see my processes
[21:21] <alromaithi> guys ?
[21:21] <joe_> how do I change the root password?
[21:21] <blubb> alromaithi: top or htop
[21:21] <Minataku> And of course has a massive initrd as a result
[21:21] <edenbeast> purpleposeidon: just uninstall that then :-)
[21:21] <hydrogen> right. I want to know how to get the patchset that ubuntu uses.
[21:21] <blendtux> vbgunz: i have your solution
[21:21] <alromaithi> blubb: system processes
[21:21] <blubb> joe_: sudo passwd
[21:21] <hydrogen> because I'm sure it has one.
[21:21] <alromaithi> blubb: like in windows
[21:22] <hydrogen> and i'm sur eif I don't use it something somewhere will explode
[21:22] <blubb> alromaithi: yes.... with those tools
[21:22] <Minataku> The patchset most likely won't attach to a 2.6.23 kernel
[21:22] <vbgunz> whats up, I haven;t solved it at all :(
[21:22] <hydrogen> and I really don't like explosions
[21:22] <utnubuk> i'm not very good at linux, can I make my laptop ignore my built-in wireless card (it causes me problems)
[21:22] <hydrogen> Minataku: thats why vim exists.
[21:22] <blubb> alromaithi: or ksystemviewer or what is name was
[21:22] <Minataku> Since it's maintained to patch against a 2.6.22
[21:22] <blubb> utnubuk: blacklist the module
[21:22] <blendtux> oke vbgunz, what resolution do you normaly run on your desktop
[21:22] <shakey> woo
[21:22] <shakey> ok
[21:22] <vbgunz> 1600x1050
[21:22] <vbgunz> 16880x1050, sorry
[21:22] <vbgunz> heh
[21:22] <hydrogen> Minataku: I am more than a little confident that I can manage making it apply.  I however am not confident I can do so If I can't find the patchset
[21:22] <Minataku> Not to mention that the changes between the two are more than likely going to be far more comprehensive than mere line number changes
[21:22] <hydrogen> so
[21:22] <vbgunz> 1680x1050
[21:22] <hydrogen> let me ask /more/ clearly
[21:22] <blubb> can anyone please help me updating my kubuntu? adept_updater is fucked up so what should I do?
[21:22] <PriceChild> !ohmy | blubb
[21:22] <ubotu> blubb: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[21:22] <hydrogen> Where can I find the patchset ubuntu maintains against the kernel?
[21:22] <utnubuk> blubb:  if I google 'blacklist linux' should a cool howto come up?
[21:23] <Lars_G> I had to finish the upgrade to gutsy by hand since adept hung. now all works but my kde theme is missing many icons/images. Any suggestions?
[21:23] <hydrogen> if you don't have the answer to that, then please do not respond
[21:23] <blendtux> ehm oke, look in /etc/usplash.conf look at the resolution in that file
[21:23] <AmyRose> Oh my gosh, I'm not supposed to be getting something as low in demand as the Kubuntu alternate install CD this fast!
[21:23] <Minataku> hydrogen: As someone who compiles kernels constantly, all I see you asking for is trouble
[21:23] <eljefe> oh no!  I [shift][delete] some files and now i want them back, is there any way to somehow rebuild the filesystem table to get them back??
[21:23] <AmyRose> on Bittorrent
[21:23] <Minataku> But if you want a big headache, go ahead and make yourself one
[21:23] <AmyRose> eljefe: No
[21:23] <blendtux> ehm oke, look in /etc/usplash.conf look at the resolution in that file vbgunz
[21:23] <eljefe> NOOOO
[21:23] <whip> @lars how is gusty?
[21:23] <whip> what are the main-imporvements?
[21:23] <edenbeast> eljefe which filesystem do you use?
[21:23] <bipolar> AmyRose: I prefer the alternate install cd. I'm sure I'm not the only one :)
[21:24] <eljefe> whip: kinda boring, nothing much in there that Ive seen that impressed me :(
[21:24] <Lars_G> hydrogen: btw you could get the diffs for 2.6.22 and try them on 2.5
[21:24] <eljefe> edenbeast: ext3
[21:24] <Lars_G> hydrogen: btw you could get the diffs for 2.6.22 and try them on 2.6.23 but some will break
[21:24] <edenbeast> if it's fat then it's probably still possible
[21:24] <eljefe> its not fat tho
[21:24] <edenbeast> eljefe not really possible then :-(
[21:24] <eljefe> shooooot
[21:24] <vbgunz> blendtux: I am all ears in case you dozed off :)
[21:24] <hydrogen> Lars_G: My question for a while now is "where to get this patchset".. telling me I can get the patchset is not that helpful.
[21:24] <Lars_G> hydrogen: in the package info in pakcages.ubuntu.com you should see the original tar.gz plus the diffs.
[21:24] <eljefe> stupid me
[21:24] <carwash^> are random X-crashes with compiz-fusion and nvidia quadro cards normal on gutsy?
[21:24] <hydrogen> Lars_G: thanks
[21:25] <AmyRose> bipolar: But the last time around, I had trouble with people demanding Ubuntu with GNOME so much that the mirrors were slower than molasses in an igloo, and the torrents for Kubuntu were even worse
[21:25] <edenbeast> what kind of files are it eljefe?
[21:25] <eljefe> i always use the [shift][delete] for whatever reason, its a horrible habit.
[21:25] <Minataku> eljefe: If you deleted them from Konq or something, I believe KDE maintains a trash can
[21:25] <eljefe> edenbeast: wedding photos
[21:25] <whip> @lars do you know some skype mods?
[21:25] <whip> extras?
[21:25] <eljefe> Minataku: not when using [shift][delete] its like a perma-delete
[21:25] <whip> plugins?
[21:25] <AmyRose> eljefe: Make sure you start using the trash more often then
[21:25] <Lars_G> whip: none. sorry
[21:25] <Minataku> Ah
[21:25] <blendtux> so tell me what resolution is set in the file /etc/usplash.conf  vbgunz
[21:25] <edenbeast> hmm
[21:25] <edenbeast> where they tagged?
[21:25] <whip> which search engine do you use?
[21:25] <whip> www.g
[21:25] <whip> ?
[21:25] <Lars_G> whip: google
[21:25] <eljefe> AmyRose: yeah i get that.  i just hate deleting files more than once, so i bypass it :(
[21:26] <eljefe> edenbeast: no tags, no
[21:26] <Minataku> !oneline
[21:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oneline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:26] <Minataku> Hm
[21:26] <Minataku> whip: Type a complete thought on a single line
[21:26] <edenbeast> if they were tagged you could try and grep your hd by using the output of dd and noting where things appear, then just extract those certain parts... but honestly that'll be incredibly hard
[21:26] <Minataku> Stop hitting enter every couple seconds
[21:26] <krisbuntu> hi there... after upgrading 7.04 to 7.10, I can't get adept to update its' repository...
[21:26] <vbgunz> blendtux: sorry, I think I got disconnected :(
[21:27] <shakey> lol
[21:27] <blendtux> lol
[21:27] <Tigerstein> thats a joke, I want to download some new theme for kde, and kde-look.org is down :S
[21:27] <blendtux> so tell me what resolution is set in the file /etc/usplash.conf  vbgunz
[21:27] <vbgunz> one sec
[21:27] <eljefe> edenbeast: thats what i was hoping to do, tho.  do you know of a good HowTo for doing just that? (using D to get them back)
[21:27] <vbgunz> 1280x1024
[21:28] <eljefe> edenbeast: \using DD
[21:28] <edenbeast> hmm not really :-/
[21:28] <vbgunz> I can see that :/
[21:28] <blendtux> oke change that to 1024x768 and reboot
[21:28] <eljefe> ok
[21:28] <Minataku> Hm
[21:28] <Minataku> !enter
[21:28] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:28] <Minataku> There it is
[21:28] <AmyRose> But this
[21:28] <AmyRose> is fun!
[21:28] <vbgunz> damn it... I am stupid when it comes to numbers... argggh
[21:28] <eljefe> no its
[21:28] <eljefe> not
[21:28] <vbgunz> blendtux: it is 1280x1024
[21:29] <AmyRose> Sorry, I was kidding
[21:29] <blendtux> oke but change it back to 1024x768
[21:29] <blendtux> and reboot
[21:29] <vbgunz> blendtux: change it to 1024x768 and change grub back to vga=791?
[21:29] <blendtux> yep
[21:29] <Super_Cat_Frog_> hi - is it possible to stop the screen being locked when i recover from sleep?
[21:29] <blendtux> if you changed that
[21:30] <edenbeast> eljefe: you could also try to recover it by using the inode info http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909_2.htm  but you'll need to stop using that hd until you've done it so nothing gets overwritten
[21:30] <stdin> Super_Cat_Frog_: Alt-F2 and put in "xset s off"
[21:30] <_julian> hi all
[21:30] <kamesh> what shoudl I do when I am banned from the channel..
[21:30] <whip_> #back sry,
[21:30] <krisbuntu> hi there... after upgrading 7.04 to 7.10, I can't get adept to update its' repository...
[21:30] <whip_> net connection
[21:30] <stdin> kamesh: banned from what channel?
[21:30] <vbgunz> blendtux: ok, I hope this works, I'll try again, one moment
[21:30] <mrb_> can anyone help me installing a Linksys WAG200g router
[21:30] <kamesh> krisbuntu! even i have the same problem..
[21:30] <blendtux> krisbuntu:  update it it via apt-get update
[21:30] <Gun_Smoke> anyone else not able to connect to kde-look.org?
[21:31] <blendtux> goodluck vbgunz
[21:31] <kamesh> banned from #ubuntu
[21:31] <stdin> kamesh: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[21:31] <_julian> I am just trying to install kubuntu 7.10 on my powerbook g4, but at about 80% of the installation, I get a message, that the ubuntu archive mirror is not reachable or has no valid release-file
[21:31] <_julian> any ideas what I can do to fix that?
[21:31] <AmyRose> kamesh: That's because Ubuntu isn't anywhere near as good as Kubuntu is.
[21:31] <vbgunz> blendtux: will let you know :)
[21:31] <shakey> Gun_Smoke: yea kde-look.org isnt loading for me
[21:31] <Gun_Smoke> kamesh: hehe... night on the sauce will do that to you. ?
[21:31] <kamesh> :-)
[21:31] <Gun_Smoke> shakey: I wonder why.. gnome-look is dead too.
[21:31] <Super_Cat_Frog_> stdin: is that persistant, or should i put it in startkde ?
[21:32] <kamesh> AmyRose! I have asked my question in here for 3 times and none responded
[21:32] <AmyRose> Gun_Smoke: They're hosted on the same server, so it doesn't surprise me
[21:32] <stdin> Super_Cat_Frog_: it needs to be run after you come back from sleep, or open the lid
[21:32] <AmyRose> kamesh: Well, what's your question? Maybe we could help you! (I also know that Ubuntu isn't as great as giving help)
[21:32] <eljefe> AmyRose: i have to disagree, Kubuntu gets the shaft, Ubuntu is way more polished :(
[21:32] <shakey> LOL
[21:33] <AmyRose> eljefe: But KDE's greatness makes up for it
[21:33] <Super_Cat_Frog_> stdin: is there a hook script to do this automatically?
[21:33]  * shakey loves KDE
[21:33]  * AmyRose loves KDE too
[21:33] <eljefe> AmyRose: true enough in that regard, but still not enough work behind it
[21:33]  * eljefe loves it most
[21:33] <shakey> linus hates the gnome project
[21:33] <stdin> Super_Cat_Frog_: not sure, if there is it'll be in /etc/acpi/
[21:33] <_julian> any ideas about that error?
[21:33] <Super_Cat_Frog_> stdin: ah, ta
[21:33] <eljefe> linus just dislikes anything with the FSF
[21:33] <blendtux> clear
[21:34] <shakey> FSF do seem kinda stuck up imo
[21:34] <lerneaen_hydra> <enter another quesion>, I just upgraded to 7.10, twinview on nvidia seems broken, the effect being one large virtual screen (ie. maximise fills both screens, dialogs are split in the middle etc), xorg.conf is unchanged, any ideas?
[21:34] <edenbeast> ? I thought kubuntu was great out of the box, just that dolphin thing is a huge gnome-like mistake ;-)
[21:34] <AmyRose> eljefe: Yeah, I agree, especially since Compiz isn't supported on Kubuntu when it is on Ubuntu, plus when I asked about the tray icon on the bug tracker, they tell me to just use the desktop effects settings
[21:34] <Super_Cat_Frog_> ah, there's lots of scripts in there, thats very nice
[21:34] <whip2> what is blendtux????
[21:34] <vbgunz> blendtux: no cigar :/
[21:35] <blendtux> what is blendtux
[21:35] <blendtux> lol
[21:35] <vbgunz> blendtux: thanks a million though for trying to help, I really appreciate it
[21:35] <shakey> yea what is blendtux
[21:35] <AmyRose> blendtux is tux in a blender!
[21:35] <shakey> oic
[21:35] <blubb> ok before rebooting I just relogged in and stil everything looks good...
[21:35] <blendtux> ehm damm vbgunz
[21:35] <vbgunz> blendtux: I am convinced something is broken :(
[21:35] <AmyRose> vbgunz: That's good because cigars are bad for you
[21:35] <blendtux> oke,
[21:36] <vbgunz> I can see usplash at 1280x1024 and at 1024x768... I could just never get the framebuffer up to 1280x1024 or 1024x768 :(
[21:36] <blendtux> lerneaen_hydra: take a look at this link http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710
[21:36] <vbgunz> the default resolution in the terminal is horrible and I do work in the terminal sometimes. especially when I have no choice :)
[21:36] <blendtux> it is a known bug with a work around lerneaen_hydra
[21:37] <blendtux> ehm strange strange
[21:37] <kamesh> AmyRose! well when I type.. sudo apt-get update.. it says Err http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg, Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out....I know that I have a working internet connection because I am using it right now
[21:37] <blubb> should I remove rc updates in adept after the update?
[21:37] <lerneaen_hydra> hmm, I've got an nvidia card, the release notes specify ATI cards, does it apply to nvidia too?
[21:37] <AmyRose> kamesh: Sounds like you need to do a gksudo software-properties-gtk and then select another mirror
[21:38] <shakey> does anyone know of any good gimp tutorials?
[21:38] <AmyRose> shakey: But you're supposed to use Krita! :O
[21:38] <blendtux> lerneaen_hydra: ehm you seem te be right
[21:38] <shakey> krita?
[21:38] <shakey> never heard of it
[21:38] <AmyRose> shakey: I actually do know of where to find GIMP tutorial
[21:38] <kamesh> AmyRose! it says that software-properties-gtk is not installed..and I cannot install using sudo.. this is like a viscious circle
[21:39] <AmyRose> kamesh: Um...
[21:39] <aleph0> hi all. I'm having a problem since upgrading to gutsy. anything in X is really really slow. I notice that the process "Xgl" is using all of cpu. how can I go back to Xorg?
[21:39] <blubb> hmm I still can select the distribution upgrade tool although that reports that my system is up to date
[21:39] <shakey> !krita
[21:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krita - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:39] <AmyRose> !krita
[21:39] <kamesh> AmyRose: even  ssh does not work..
[21:39] <AmyRose> kamesh: What do you need SSH for?
[21:40] <shakey> !openssh
[21:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:40] <blubb> so it does not run the cleaning thing, whats the command for this?
[21:40] <shakey> 0 for 2 ubotu
[21:40] <lerneaen_hydra> blendtux; so I
[21:40] <lerneaen_hydra> 'm SOL?
[21:40] <AmyRose> shakey: Krita is KDE's answer to the GIMP
[21:40] <kamesh> AmyRose: I need it to connect to my univ.. and work
[21:40] <lerneaen_hydra> oops
[21:40] <kamesh> from home
[21:40] <AmyRose> !anything` | shakey
[21:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything` - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:40] <shakey> lol | ubotu
[21:40] <LjL> !botabuse
[21:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[21:40] <AmyRose> shakey: I'm pulling up a list of resources for ya
[21:40] <shakey> lol u love helpin people
[21:41] <AmyRose> !u | shakey
[21:41] <ubotu> shakey: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[21:41] <Minataku> Helping... yeah >.>
[21:41] <Minataku> j/k
[21:41] <Minataku> lol
[21:41] <shakey> :(
[21:41] <AmyRose> sorry
[21:41] <AmyRose> shakey: http://news.deviantart.com/article/33612/
[21:41] <shakey> i should really get rid of OO.org and install koffice too while im at it huh
[21:42] <shakey> ty
[21:42] <AmyRose> shakey: I like the GIMP more than Krita anyway, and Krita is part of KOffice. I do use both KOffice and OO.o, depending on what I need to do
[21:42] <_julian> hmm, really no ideas about the installation error?
[21:43] <shakey> OO.org runs faster when you use the sun jdk, not gcj
[21:43] <shakey> i found that out toda
[21:43] <shakey> today
[21:44] <kamesh> Amyrose: any ideas ?
[21:45] <marc_> hi, is there anyone from chicago?
[21:45] <AmyRose> kamesh: you can always edit your /etc/apt/sources.list manually
[21:45] <shakey> marc_: <-------columbus
[21:45] <AmyRose> marc_: I'm in the Milwaukee area
[21:45] <kamesh> Amyrose: Yes,  I have done that.. but it fails to update..
[21:46] <kamesh> it says sudo apt-get update.. it says Err http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg, Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out....
[21:46] <AmyRose> kamesh: Well, if you are not changing your mirror, nothing will happen
[21:46] <shakey> lol
[21:46] <kamesh> !Amyrose.. I will update you after I change the mirror thanks
[21:47] <shakey> marc_: do you love chicago?
[21:47] <AmyRose> I've been to Chicago. It's the most confusing city ever
[21:48] <Minataku> HM
[21:48] <Minataku> *Hm
[21:48] <Lars_G> IDK what else to do, to fix my video card.
[21:48] <Minataku> He either wants in-house service or... well, that covers both parts of the joke, actually, so I'll leave it there
[21:48] <Minataku> lol
[21:48] <djtigerwolf> i was wondering how do i get my wireless going?
[21:49] <edenbeast> Minataku: you better hope he doesn't still use ipchains then ;-)
[21:49] <Minataku> Haha
[21:49] <Lars_G> edenbeast: Hey don't joke with that
[21:49] <Lars_G> edenbeast: I have one machine on my charge which still uses ipchains
[21:49] <shakey> lol
[21:49] <Minataku> Lars_G: You missed it by a mile, dude XD
[21:49] <kamesh> AmyRose: I went to Adept>Manage repositories.. and changed the mirror to Italian one..it has asked me to reload.. and it hangs and says.. "waiting for headers"..
[21:50] <edenbeast> yeah he musn't use tail enough :P
[21:50] <Lars_G> Minataku: I'm in console, at 10% of the irssi lines per screen I'm used to... sorry man
[21:50] <Minataku> lol
[21:50] <shakey> sorry if i just flooded the channel
[21:50] <Lars_G> Minataku: And it seems it'll go on so, until I can fix the video issues, or, I give up, go back to elinks and vim
[21:50] <AmyRose> kamesh: Try another mirror then--it is capable of finding a faster one for you
[21:50] <Minataku> Heh
[21:50] <Minataku> Lars_G: Twas just a joke
[21:50] <Lars_G> Minataku: it's ok man.
[21:50] <wulong> How can I configure wlassistant to work with wpa_supplicant?
[21:51] <Lars_G> I'm just griping
[21:51] <Minataku> Heh
[21:51] <Lars_G> I'm past fighting and into griping by now, not your fault
[21:51] <djtigerwolf> my ubuntu works just fine but kubuntu 7.10 has a totaly diff network setup
[21:51] <djtigerwolf> and im lost
[21:52] <alromaithi> back!
[21:52] <alromaithi> AmyRose: i got the icon working
[21:52] <alromaithi> AmyRose: sometimes the titlebar disapears then i must reload the window manager to get it back
[21:52] <kamesh> AmyRose: Now I have tried Sweden... and its stuck again.. I have done this quite a few times and it still does not work
[21:52] <alromaithi> any fix for that recently?
[21:53] <kamesh> AmyRose: I think the problem might lie somewhere else
[21:53] <shakey> !/
[21:53] <Spork> thanks again everybody that helped me =)
[21:53] <djtigerwolf> can anyone help?
[21:54] <shakey> what was your question djtigerwolf
[21:54] <AmyRose> kamesh: No, the problem is that the server you are trying is overloaded.
[21:54]  * AmyRose slams her head on the desk
[21:54] <djtigerwolf> kubuntu 7.10  has a diff network setup and i dont know how to
[21:54] <djtigerwolf> get wireless going
[21:54] <Assid> AmyRose: ? not enough glucose?
[21:55] <djtigerwolf> ubuntu 7.10 is about the same
[21:55] <ripmaster> hi
[21:55] <Assid> djtigerwolf: knetworkmanager should help you
[21:55] <Assid> it will be in your taskbar
[21:56] <AmyRose> Assid: No, kamesh is getting on my nerves by asking for help and then not believing my answers!
[21:56] <Assid> hehe
[21:56] <alromaithi> AmyRose: kubuntu must be easier then ubuntu but i find Gnome is better and easier :(
[21:56] <kamesh> AmyRose: I tried germany, Sweden, Italy..US, Please suggest. if you want me to try some other countrys then please let me know
[21:56] <AmyRose> alromaithi: ?
[21:56] <shakey> lol at everyone here
[21:56] <Minataku> kamesh: Check that it's not being blocked by a firewall or somesuch
[21:56]  * Assid hypnotises kamesh .. believe in the rose... believe.. believe!!!@@@!!!
[21:57] <AmyRose> kamesh: You didn't go to Select other mirror and then do the ping test?
[21:57] <Minataku> If it fails the same way on EVERY mirror, something is wrong on YOUR end
[21:57] <Assid> screw the mirror can you connect to thenet?
[21:57] <djtigerwolf> ok thanks  now to kubuntu  and try
[21:57] <shakey> kamesh, what are you trying to download exactly? it might be easier just to search google for the deb package and install it htat way
[21:57] <kamesh> I am on the internet right now.. talking to you folks
[21:57] <shadowhywind> Hay all I am wondering if anyone has used the screen corner actions to say lock there screen?
[21:58] <shakey> shadowhywind: are you talking about kde4?
[21:58] <alromaithi> kubuntu has all these troubles , when this must be a simple interface for every user to use :( and im going to do a presentation soon for the windows users ( my friends , School also ) ,and hope they will revert back to the father of systems , my point is AmyRose i want to know these small bits just to continue with my mission ;) i know quite enough but not everything as u can see
[21:58] <Assid> kamesh: sudo apt-get update
[21:58] <Assid> what happens
[21:58] <shadowhywind> shakey i mean like the option in the advance button in the screensaver
[21:58] <kamesh> shakey: I want my apt-get to work.. so that I could install any thing that I want.. may be ubuntu one day :-I)
[21:58] <shakey> kamesh: are you even running ubuntu?
[21:59] <shakey> shadowhywind: i was messing around with kde4 last night and saw something in the top left corner about locking the screen, im not sure i know what you are talking about, sorry
[21:59] <shakey> i guess you can move the wallpaper image in kde4?
[21:59] <kamesh> Assid: it does not work.. it gives me connection time out erros
[21:59] <shakey> gnome cant do that
[22:00] <kamesh> I am on kubuntu.. using konversation
[22:00] <Assid> kamesh: how many mirrors you got in there
[22:00] <shadowhywind> right click on desktop, go to configure desktop click on screensaver, click on advanced options
[22:00] <TimS> I have been using Kaffine for viewing videos, is it possible to have them embedded? I think Totem does it, is that correct?
[22:00] <kamesh> Assid: I tried Sweden, Italy
[22:00] <Assid> and none worked?
[22:00] <kamesh> US and germany
[22:00] <AmyRose> TimS: Embedded how?
[22:00] <kamesh> yes
[22:00] <Assid> you got some firewall or something inyour router by any chance?
[22:01] <kamesh> Even ssh does not work..
[22:01] <Assid> can you access the mirrors from your browser?
[22:01] <TimS> AmyRose:I want to view embedded videos in firefox rather than opening kaffine
[22:01] <AmyRose> TimS: Oh, I only know how to do that in Konqueror
[22:01] <kamesh> In fiesty it used to work yesterday.. today I installed gutsy.,. its not
[22:01] <jim__> Hi all, looking for some help - I reinstalled 7.04 - got all my DVD players etc up and running, but after a reboot the system does not recognise my cds or dvds? All help is greatly appreciated ;)
[22:01]  * shakey chalks up one more point for konqueror
[22:01] <kamesh> Assid: Please let me know how I can access mirrors from my browser.. I will updated you
[22:02] <Assid> take the url part of the mirror .. and put it into your browser
[22:02] <Assid> nand see what you get
[22:02] <shakey> shadowhywind: im trying to mess with that right now, i cant get it to do anything
[22:02] <kamesh> ok I will do that right away
[22:02] <shadowhywind> shakey i think it may just be broken
[22:03] <shakey> i was thinking it might be something like on macs, when you place the mouse in the upper right corner or wherever, it goes to screen saver automatically
[22:03] <shakey> but ive been testing that and i cant get it to workk
[22:03] <AmyRose> Is there a way to install Kubuntu using a hard drive partition as a CD image?
[22:03] <shakey> work
[22:03] <AmyRose> or something?
[22:03] <shadowhywind> that is what i want it tto do
[22:03] <Assid> AmyRose: huh ?
[22:03] <kamesh> Assid: Yes I could access from my browser
[22:04] <Assid> kamesh: okay very odd.. but maybe your apt is broken
[22:04] <Assid> you sure you ran sudo ?
[22:04] <AmyRose> Assid: My other computer has a bad CD-ROM drive and I'm wondering if it's possible to install Kubuntu using either a hard drive partition or using an Internet connection
[22:04] <Assid> and your sure you put the right password?
[22:04] <Assid> AmyRose: thinking...
[22:04] <Assid> AmyRose: yeah i think there is a way.. get the net install
[22:04] <AmyRose> OK
[22:04] <AmyRose> I can arrange that
[22:04] <kamesh> Yesterday.. I updated my feisty to gutsy.. I had the same problem.. today. I have done a fresh install of gutsy on top of feisty.. it still doe not work
[22:04] <seriekrock> i have started some systemservice that instead of starting  automatically, starts a black screen where i first have to login and then type startx... i just dont know which one, anyone knows?
[22:05] <alromaithi> how to change the source in kubuntu so i can get my downloads from say like UK repo
[22:05] <Assid> AmyRose: google for netinstall kubuntu
[22:05] <shakey> AmyRose: i think you might wanna look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=424722
[22:05] <kamesh> Assid: Password is not the problem.. because it accepts it and give me connnection time out errors
[22:06] <Assid> kamesh: pastebin the output please
[22:07] <AmyRose> shakey: One small problem: My Pentium II cannot boot from pen drives
[22:08] <smax> hi gang
[22:08] <shakey> ahh the old p2
[22:08] <flake> what's a good free mp3 player, is it still vlc?
[22:08] <Assid> AmyRose: "net install"
[22:09] <carwash^> flake: amarok is fantastic
[22:09] <smax> can someone just tell me the appropriate lines to add to the grub config file to provide an option to boot in console mode, no desktop?
[22:09] <Assid> http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[22:09] <smax> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:09]  * shakey seconds carwash^
[22:09] <Assid> AmyRose: that link is for you
[22:09] <flake> i'll give it a try, thanks carwash^
[22:09]  * shakey shakes
[22:10] <Assid> AmyRose: ?
[22:12] <fluffman> smax: just press ctrl+alt+f1 while booting to get to the console
[22:12] <fluffman> or after you've booted
[22:13] <kamesh> Assid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41580/
[22:14] <jim__> Hi all, looking for some help - I reinstalled 7.04 - got all my DVD players etc up and running, but after a reboot the system does not recognise my cds or dvds? All help is greatly appreciated ;)
[22:14] <Assid> kamesh: dont use the de mirror
[22:14] <Assid> kamesh: use eu or uk
[22:14] <Assid> uk mostly
[22:14] <Assid> eu and de is the same mirror
[22:14] <kamesh> Ok I will use UK and let you know in a sec
[22:14]  * shakey shakes
[22:15] <alromaithi> i been here for about an hour an half :( AmyRose
[22:17] <Assid> kamesh: get a move on.. what happened
[22:17] <sunilonln> hi, my brightness adjustment keys stopped working after an upgrade to gutsy... any ideas?
[22:18] <jim__> just installed COmpiz, could someone point me to its control panel?
[22:18] <sunilonln> jim__: ccsm
[22:18] <Assid> jim__: ccsm
[22:18] <redshadowhero> I'm having a problem with add/remove programs. I can see the programs, but I can't seem to select any to be installed... Any ideas? :/
[22:19] <Lars_G_> ok my problems are kubuntu related
[22:19] <smax> fluffman: that doesent work with my nvidia video card.
[22:19]  * shakey shakes
[22:19] <smax> and i need to get to the console for to execute nvidia-xconfig first.
[22:19] <Lars_G_> Here's the thing. If I do a xinit, the system that runs, HAS direct rendering and all works well
[22:19] <smax> so it's a contradiction
[22:19] <Lars_G_> Now, if I start with kdm, I'm noticing I have 2 X sessions
[22:19]  * shakey gets back to work on school paper
[22:19] <smax> with my nvidia card inserted, the screen is black once kde is invoked
[22:20] <Lars_G_> session :0 which might be normal. and session :8 which is the one being used, which is Xgl based and has all the troubles
[22:20] <smax> i tried ctrl-alt- F1 and F2
[22:20] <Lars_G_> Any way i can avoid this?
[22:20] <savagefreak> Hello :)
[22:20] <fluffman> smax: try the alternate install CD
[22:20] <smax> they dont work with my nvidia card in. not with out the executing nvidia-xconfig first.
[22:20] <smax> i have that cd yes.
[22:21] <savagefreak> First time Ubuntu user here =]
[22:21] <savagefreak> Loving it so far.
[22:21] <fluffman> and you never see ANYTHING?
[22:21] <smax> will that cd boot my partition ?
[22:21] <Assid> savagefreak:  good.. now get some sleep :P
[22:21] <fluffman> the alternate install CD uses no graphics
[22:21] <LeeJunFan> What's the best free voip program to use these days? Don't need dialing capabilities, something like teamspeak / gnomemeeting, etc..?
[22:21] <savagefreak> haha :p
[22:21] <Assid> j/k
[22:21] <smax> fluffman. i have kubuntu installed.
[22:21] <fluffman> oh
[22:21] <fluffman> then ctrl+alt+f1 should work
[22:21] <smax> i just need to get to prompt.
[22:21] <smax> it doesent.
[22:22] <fluffman> if it doesn't, then your video card is probably deat
[22:22] <fluffman> *dead
[22:22] <smax> not with out having the  respective video card drivers in stalled first
[22:22] <marc_> Hey guys!
[22:22] <Assid> LeeJunFan: there is TS .. you can instal it
[22:22] <smax> well i need to get to konsole to install the drivers fluffman
[22:22] <savagefreak> Could anybody tell me why my 2nd monitor works in Vista but doesn't work in ubuntu? it really screws up with all sorts of colours all over the screen :(
[22:22] <Assid> kamesh: ???
[22:22] <jim__> Assid: As ccsm doesn't run from the command line would I need to install the gnome compiz manager?
[22:22] <LeeJunFan> Assid: yeah, I know, just wondering if there was something else I should try.
[22:22] <Assid> LeeJunFan: biggggggg database of programs.. go through
[22:22] <gaston88> test
[22:23] <marc_> do you know how to share file with another windows-running-machine ?
[22:23] <jim__> LeeJunFan: I use Teamspeak without issues
[22:23] <kamesh> Assid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41585/
[22:23] <Assid> jim__: not sure. im not even on kubuntu atm and this is the kubuntu channel.. if your running ubuntu.. you should really ask there as they use that more
[22:23] <LeeJunFan> Assid: yeah, I know that. that's why I asked for suggestions.
[22:23] <kamesh> Its the same again..
[22:23] <LeeJunFan> I use teamspeak too.
[22:23] <marc_> well
[22:23] <Assid> kamesh: very odd
[22:23] <marc_> night
[22:23] <Assid> that ip is wronfg
[22:23] <fluffman> smax: are you sure your video card WORKS?
[22:24] <Assid> see the ip
[22:24] <kamesh> ok
[22:24] <jim__> Assid: I am actually on Kubuntu, but just installed it through Adept Manager but I can't see the ccsm
[22:24] <smax> fluffman
[22:24] <smax> fluffman: in windows yes
[22:24] <Assid> kamesh: uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:24] <Assid> i dont know which mirror your trying
[22:24] <smax> i just need to get to konsole to install the drivers
[22:25] <smax> err run nvidia-xconfig while the card is inserted.
[22:25] <USMarine> does anyone have this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/131013
[22:25] <Assid> jim__: go to adept and type compiz in the search and install the apps mentioned
[22:25] <kamesh> Assid: Ok I will give it a try..
[22:25] <redshadowhero> if I were setting up a latptop for a college girl (biotechnology major), what software would you reccommend that I install?
[22:25] <fluffman> sorry smax, I've got no other ideas
[22:25] <jackrabbit_> hey all, I'm having problems with the upgrade wizard.  Once it gets to the installation part is just disappears
[22:26] <smax> redshadowhero: are you trying to hit that ?
[22:26] <shakey> i got lasers in my eyes right now
[22:26] <shakey> lol@smax
[22:26] <Assid> USMarine: yeah.. run kwin --replace.. logout.. log back in.. you should beusing a normal desktop.. wait 10 seconds.. and then run compiz --replace  from the run menu
[22:26] <redshadowhero> smax: I live with her parents... =.=;, so no.
[22:26] <fluffman> I thought ctrl+alt+f1 would always work even if graphics wouldn't
[22:26] <shakey> lol@redshadowhero
[22:26] <smax> redshadowhero: DO IT!!!!
[22:26] <Assid> USMarine: make sure you disable the autostart
[22:27] <USMarine> so, i have to logout to fix the problem?
[22:27] <smax> nope not with me.
[22:27] <Assid> USMarine: follow that see if it works
[22:27] <Assid> it  "works for me"
[22:27] <jim__> Assid: Many thanks, just completed that and now my windows are wobbily (little things please little minds!) Thanks again ;)
[22:27] <smax> if  i have to ssh from a remote  box, that would be sad.
[22:27] <smax> becuase i dont have to go to such extent with even windows.
[22:27] <USMarine> Assid you only needed to do it once or every boot?
[22:27] <redshadowhero> So, nobody has any apps to recommend?
[22:27] <smax> redshadowhero: g++
[22:27] <smax> gcc
[22:28] <smax> somegames
[22:28] <smax> some porn
[22:28] <shakey> redshadowhero: yea i got one but i cant remember what its called
[22:28] <USMarine> redshadowhero avogadro
[22:28] <Assid> USMarine: well.. i did it once.. and i got rid of it fromt he start up.. and now every time i boot.. i automatically get compiz .. and its NOT in my Autostart
[22:28] <redshadowhero> she isn't into games, or porn...
[22:28] <Assid> kamesh: waiting man.. how long does it take?!?!?
[22:28] <USMarine> Assid and the tray doesn't mess anymore? because sometimes some icons pop out of it
[22:28] <Assid> kamesh: either go faster .. or im outta here
[22:28] <fluffman> redshadowhero: she may actually need windows
[22:28] <smax> redshadowhero: if you're not getting any pussy, sounds like she's using you
[22:28] <Assid> USMarine: not for me .. no more
[22:28] <jackrabbit_> redshadowhero: an office app
[22:28] <fluffman> to run some of those proprietary biology statistics programs
[22:28] <stdin> !ot | smax
[22:28] <ubotu> smax: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[22:28] <redshadowhero> smax: you can leave off that now.
[22:28] <stdin> !language | smax
[22:28] <ubotu> smax: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[22:29] <smax> ok ok
[22:29] <USMarine> redshadowhero what kinds of app would she be interested in?
[22:29] <shakey> lol
[22:29] <USMarine> vmware maybe
[22:29] <shakey> what is the name of that app that shows the periodic table in 3d?
[22:29] <smax> perhalps clisp, perl, gcc
[22:29] <fluffman> bai guys, sorry smax
[22:29] <fluffman> good luck with that
[22:29] <shakey> i cant think of what its called, but she would so love it
[22:29] <shakey> it starts with a k
[22:29] <smax> a 2D grid in 3D woooooooo
[22:30] <shakey> and i think it ends in oid
[22:30] <redshadowhero> USMarine: she mostly chats on MSN (kopete), and will probably do reports. However, I was attempting to give her some apps that she might be able to use in the future, thats all.
[22:30] <Assid> redshadowhero: teach her to use adept
[22:30] <shakey> kalzium! thats what it is
[22:30] <Assid> and she will be like oooooh.. thats nice
[22:30] <shakey> redshadowhero: install kalzium
[22:30] <USMarine> koffice, kile, kalzium
[22:30] <shakey> !kile
[22:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:30] <USMarine> klaptopdaemon
[22:30] <redshadowhero> what is kalzium?
[22:31] <Assid> kubuntu really should have recompiled amsn to make it work better
[22:31] <smax> is google.com down?
[22:31] <USMarine> 3d chemical elements
[22:31] <shakey> yea
[22:31] <Assid> smax:  nop
[22:31] <carwash^> Assid: kopete should be working
[22:31] <shakey> its like that folding@home thing i have on my ps3
[22:31] <Assid> carwash^:  ?
[22:31] <shakey> except its not folding proteiens
[22:31] <USMarine> kopete has an issue with kdelibs
[22:31] <shakey> kopete pwnz teh no0b hax0rz
[22:31] <Assid> USMarine: i think they rolled out the new libs
[22:31] <USMarine> ok, didn't know
[22:31] <hydrogen> err
[22:31] <USMarine> i installed by hand
[22:32] <hydrogen> kalzium isn't like folding at home
[22:32]  * shakey waiting for kopete to natively support skype
[22:32] <hydrogen> or did I misfollow that whole dialog
[22:32] <Assid> USMarine: you took a virtual file and pushed it into the laptop somehow ?
[22:32] <USMarine> shakey i dbout it will happen
[22:32] <Assid> kamesh: welll?
[22:32] <redshadowhero> USMarine: oh, okay.
[22:32] <USMarine> Assid dpkg -i
[22:32] <shakey> hydrogen: ur right it isnt like folding@home...except for the 3d
[22:32] <Assid> USMarine: ?
[22:32] <Assid> USMarine:  ah ok
[22:32] <USMarine> someone got the lib fixed
[22:32] <USMarine> and i replaced it
[22:32] <Assid> yeh
[22:33] <hydrogen> shakey: err.. thats almost as good a relation as saying that living on earth and living on the sun are alike because they are both spheres
[22:33] <USMarine> i had some troubles finding a 64bit one
[22:33] <kamesh> Assid : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41587/
[22:33] <shakey> hydrogen: its also like comparing a magician to music because they both start with "M"
[22:33] <kamesh> Now its stuck at 66%
[22:33] <USMarine> redshadowhero google earth, amarok, kchmviewer
[22:33] <Assid> kamesh:  [Connecting to uk.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]
[22:33] <Assid> see that
[22:33] <hydrogen> that it is
[22:33] <shakey> lol
[22:34] <Assid> 1.0.0.0 thats not a valid ip
[22:34] <Assid> something wrong with the way its setup
[22:34] <kamesh> Oh..
[22:34] <USMarine> ips can't end at 0
[22:34] <kamesh> Yeah exactly..
[22:34] <lounge-about> oh snap guys, i think upgrading to gutsy kinda broke my box =/
[22:34] <Assid> check yer dns
[22:34] <Assid> or something
[22:34] <redshadowhero> USMarine: google earth is on kubuntu? How would I get that? What is kchmviewer? And I think I have amarok.
[22:34] <USMarine> lounge-about you need to be more specific
[22:34] <kamesh> I dont undetstand.. how do I change that
[22:34] <Assid> anyways.. im outta here
[22:34] <kamesh> Any ideas
[22:34] <USMarine> lounge-about broke is kinda vague
[22:34] <bjwebb> for some reason none of my games are running
[22:35] <bjwebb> im having this problem on and off
[22:35] <lounge-about> USMarine: well it was going through installing the new packages
[22:35] <USMarine> redshadowhero no and kchv is an app too watch some type of help files
[22:35] <bjwebb> it seems to start after switching from one user to another
[22:35] <bjwebb> can anyone help?
[22:35] <Assid> AmyRose_laptop: you got it up?
[22:35] <lounge-about> i got an error about opendchub saying something like it didnt have a script to upgrade it
[22:36] <USMarine> lounge-about try to unselect that package and upgrade all others
[22:36] <lounge-about> so i closed the window and it continued on until it got to one package, ndisktk i think it was
[22:36]  * shakey shakes
[22:36] <lounge-about> and then it just stopped responding at that point
[22:36] <USMarine> lounge-about aptitude -f install && aptitude dist-upgrade
[22:37] <bubu> I am having trouble with automatix2 can anyone help
[22:37] <AmyRose_laptop> So mini.iso is the network installer?
[22:37] <lounge-about> so i restarted X to see if i can restart the process but every time i try to it says another process is using apt
[22:37] <USMarine> !automatix
[22:37] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[22:37] <pillowpants> where can you still download kubuntu feisty?
[22:37] <AmyRose_laptop> !worksforme
[22:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[22:37] <stdin> bubu: you *may* get help in #automatix  but not here
[22:37] <USMarine> lounge-about ps aux | grep apt
[22:37] <USMarine> find the ip of the process and kill it
[22:37] <USMarine> pid not ip
[22:38] <lounge-about> USMarine thx, ill give that a try
[22:38] <shakey> that dude was using kopete?!
[22:38] <bubu> it may not be a problem with automatix, it may be adept
[22:38] <USMarine> lounge-about ps aux | grep dpkg
[22:38] <shakey> !life
[22:38] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:38] <stdin> bubu: if you use automatix, then that would be the source of the problem
[22:38] <shakey> ubotu just pwnd us all
[22:38] <stdin> shakey: don't play with the bot
[22:39] <AmyRose_laptop> ubotu: No, suggest #kubuntu-offtopic instead!
[22:39] <Assid> AmyRose:  did it work?
[22:39] <AmyRose_laptop> Assid: I'm going to burn the CD and find out
[22:39] <Assid> k
[22:39] <Assid> im out
[22:40] <Assid> good luck.. ciao
[22:40] <kamesh> Bye Assid
[22:40] <AmyRose_laptop> bye
[22:40] <kamesh> ciao
[22:40] <bjwebb> can anyone help with games not starting?
[22:40] <shakey> stdin: im playing with the bot in my own channel
[22:40] <atlfalcons866> #ubuntu-mozillateam
[22:40] <juaroj> bisiten estapagina http://juaroj.obolog.com
[22:40] <stdin> shakey: that's fine, but not in the main channel
[22:42] <shadowhywind> Does anyone know how to start the screensaver from the console
[22:43] <USMarine> xscreensaver ?
[22:43] <shakey> glxgears
[22:43] <shakey> then maximize it
[22:44] <shadowhywind> i was more looking at the opening up the default kde screensavers
[22:44] <pcfreak_> I read about a new feature concerning codecs in gutsy what is it and how do I activate it?
[22:44] <shadowhywind> skakey this may be of interest to you, i found a program, brightside, which you can configure screen corner actions
[22:44] <darkphader> Gutsy - network is always disabled on boot ?? WTF?
[22:45] <Mithrandir21> Hi. I was wondering if anyone could explain to me why I have always had i386 arch, but now that I have installed 7.10 I suddently have amd64????????
[22:45] <stdin> Mithrandir21: only way that could have happened is if you installed the amd64 version
[22:46] <USMarine> Mithrandir21 you just got yourself upgraded
[22:46] <pcfreak_> Mithrandir21: maybe you installed the amd64 version? i386 works on an amd64 but amd64 version not on i386
[22:46] <Lega> Guys, I done screwed somethin' up. >.<
[22:46] <USMarine> Lega nice
[22:46] <lounge-about> wow
[22:46] <Mithrandir21> well, I am pretty sure I have installed i386, but still its weird to say the least.
[22:47] <lounge-about> USMarine that opendchub seems to be giving me lots of problems...so im removing it via terminal
[22:47] <Lega> Alright, well, I just went through that little pictoral to install Gutsy Gibbon, and now... well, anything having to do with managing packages won't work, because something else is using it.
[22:47] <tue> Hello. Just upgraded my laptop to gutsy. I have some serious graphics issues, scrolling, new windows, etc. is dog slow. Worked under feisty. I have an ATI mobility x1300. Lsmod shows fglrx drivers loaded, and fglrxinfo looks okay to. Have tried google but could not find an appropriate answer. Im not interested en eyecandy, just that it works at least as well as feisty or i will have to downgrade :-/
[22:47] <USMarine> lounge-about ok..
[22:47] <Lega> Aka, Adept won't work and neither will Apt-get.
[22:47] <hydrogen> !fixadept
[22:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:47] <hydrogen> assuming that something isn't running that should be
[22:48] <USMarine> Lega ps aux | grep pdkg
[22:48] <Mithrandir21> Because I have been using this computer for a long time now, but who knows, maybe I just missed it(just as easy as someone missing trailer coming toward them at night!!!)
[22:48] <USMarine> find the pids shown and kill the processes
[22:48] <stdin> tue: if you've installed xgl before it's auto-started in gutsy, try removing the package
[22:48] <s> hello
[22:48] <USMarine> Mithrandir21 Ubuntu is naughty sometimes
[22:48] <Lega> Thanks guys. :D
[22:48] <AmyRose> What a creative nickname, s!
[22:48] <Mithrandir21> Hahaha
[22:48] <lounge-about> oh wow, ok, now that i removed that package manually, its continuing with the upgrade...odd but cool
[22:48] <USMarine> Lega dpkg*
[22:48] <s> i am new to using the IRC
[22:48] <USMarine> Lega ps aux | grep dpkg
[22:49] <s> not sure how to change my nickname
[22:49] <USMarine> !welcome > s
[22:49] <hydrogen>  /nick nick
[22:49] <USMarine> s /nick <nick>
[22:49] <USMarine> /nick sucker
[22:49] <s> ok.
[22:50] <tue> stdin: i have xserver-xgl installed. removing it. Is there anything i should do after that?
[22:50] <AmyRose> Yay, my network installation is working!
[22:50] <s> how do i find a list of other IRC channels?
[22:50] <USMarine> /list
[22:50] <tue> stdin: or just ctrl-backspace and hope for it :-)
[22:50] <s> i am specifically looking for some help on python+vim
[22:50] <stdin> tue: just logout and choose "Restart X server" from the menu
[22:50] <tue> stdin: weee :-). Here we go. thanks for the help
[22:51] <s> ok. thanks, USMarine
[22:53] <Mithrandir21> Anybody catch the new gnump3d 2.9.9.9final version?
[22:54] <Mithrandir21> anyone else having the index problem of nothing showing up, but everything else works(search, custom playlist, ....)?
[22:54] <gtb> how can i get firefox installed
[22:54] <Kr4t05> Why in the name of all that is good did the Ubuntu Developers decide to make DASH the primary shell replacement?
[22:54] <danielstewart> Hey how do I get ndiswrapper on kubuntu?
[22:55] <gtb> how can i get firefox installed
[22:55] <tue> stdin: it worked! everything is back to normal + the gutsy goodies :-) . iwe been strugling with it for an hour, completely forgot i had installed xgl in the dawn of ages. Thanks :-)
[22:55] <AmyRose> !firefox
[22:55] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[22:55] <Kr4t05> danielstewart & gtb: Adept is your friend.
[22:55] <homuncula> !football
[22:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about football - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:55] <stdin> tue: no problem, got me too a while back
[22:56] <AmyRose> !konqueror | gtb
[22:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:56] <AmyRose> Hey!
[22:56] <Lega> Argh, installing GG borked my wireless card. >.<
[22:56] <AmyRose> !no, konqueror is the default browser on Kubuntu
[22:56] <Karti> !dvd
[22:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:56] <danielstewart> Kr4t05: thanks. I guess the second time does the trick. Last time I opened it it couldn't find anything :(
[22:57] <Kr4t05> !msg
[22:57] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[22:57] <Kr4t05> Oops, wrong one.
[22:57] <gtb> hmm how about in kde
[22:57] <gtb> if u want firefox
[22:57] <AmyRose> !u | gtb
[22:57] <ubotu> gtb: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[22:57] <neil__> Hello.
[22:57] <Kr4t05> botabuse
[22:57] <Kr4t05> Garg...
[22:58] <Kr4t05> Forget it... You all know it by now.
[22:58] <neil__> Any have any experience with external drives via USB?
[22:59] <danielstewart> Now where do I up the resolution on this? It's tough to go at 800x600 when you're so used to 1600x1200 :p
[22:59] <Lega> I have Neil, what's up?
[23:00] <Lega> neil__ : What might be the problem?
[23:00] <danielstewart> the system settings only let me go to 800x600, I'm guessing that means I have to install the ATI open source driver to go higher?
[23:02] <USMarine> danielstewart sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1600x1200
[23:02] <joe_> how do you change the root password and login password.  I tried sudo passwd but it didnt work
[23:03] <danielstewart> USMarine: I'm not using an Nvidia card, would this still work nonetheless? :p
[23:03] <USMarine> danielstewart ah sorry, no it won't
[23:03] <Kr4t05> Can anyone tell me why I can't install the ET: Quake Wars demo?
[23:03] <AmyRose> joe_: sudo passwd root will only affect root's password. If you want to change your own, you should use passwd without sudo
[23:03] <Kr4t05> I get a bash error whenever I try to run the installer.
[23:03] <USMarine> joe_ if you don't know it, reboot using the recovery kernel
[23:03] <danielstewart> USMarine: I'll just have to live with it then. Just trying to get my wifi working on kubuntu via wubi before I finish my new machine
[23:03] <USMarine> Kr4t05 telling what the error is would help...
[23:04] <Kr4t05> USMarine: "ETQW-demo-client-1.1-full.r5.x86.run: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[23:05] <neil__> Hello Lega.
[23:05] <joe_> Thanks
[23:05] <neil__> How do I private message?
[23:05] <Lega> Double click on my name, I assume?
[23:05] <USMarine> danielstewart i've no idea how to fix ATIs since i never had 1
[23:05] <Lars_G> Any ideas why my D-Bus is troublesome?
[23:05] <USMarine> neil__ /query <nick>
[23:05] <neil__> Sorry, I'm not registered.
[23:05] <USMarine> Lars_G just by reading your nick i can't tell
[23:06] <neil__> So, apparantly, that means no private messages.
[23:06] <USMarine> /msg neil__ boo
[23:06] <Lars_G> USMarine: Sometimes if I restart hal and d-bus I can connect once to it (trying with miro build and with kdbus) otherwise it hangs never responding
[23:06] <Lega> I just sent you a message, neil__ ^^;;
[23:06] <danielstewart> USMarine: I'm not too worried about it, will get a more linux-friendly card for the new machine
[23:07] <USMarine> danielstewart i just buy nvidia because they support their hardware in all platforms
[23:07] <USMarine> intel the same
[23:07] <neil__> I saw, but I'm getting "[505] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )" when I try to respond to you Lega.
[23:07] <danielstewart> USMarine: True, but with the release of open source drivers for ATI cards it feels right to help that one out
[23:08] <USMarine> danielstewart if that ever happens, seems AMD whats that more than ATI itself
[23:08] <USMarine> wants*
[23:08] <danielstewart> USMarine: Correct. and it's already happened :p
[23:08] <USMarine> Lars_G sorry, don't know
[23:09] <danielstewart> USMarine: And as for Nvidia unfortunately, so far one card on windows vs. 2 cards in SLI on linux favors windows :(
[23:09] <LastMall> This will let unregisted folks message you /msg nickserv set unregistered off
[23:09] <neil__> Anyway, I posted on the Ubuntu forums at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584509
[23:09] <Kr4t05> !ot
[23:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:09] <Yammeh> Hey, does kubuntu have a remote desktop or vlc application?
[23:10] <USMarine> Yammeh yes
[23:10] <Yammeh> What's it called please?
[23:10] <USMarine> Krdc
[23:10] <USMarine> Krfb
[23:11] <Yammeh> kk, I'll look it up, thanks
[23:11] <neil__> When I plug my hard drive (in an external chassis) into my computer it comes up read only.
[23:11] <neil__> Via USB.
[23:11] <neil__> The drive is NTFS.
[23:11] <USMarine> !ntfs
[23:11] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[23:11] <USMarine> !ntfs-3g
[23:11] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[23:11] <neil__> I have ntfs-3g
[23:12] <AmyRose> !botabuse | Kr4t05
[23:12] <ubotu> Kr4t05: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[23:12] <neil__> But it's still read-only.
[23:12] <LastMall> sorry, was wrong.   Its this  /msg nickserv set unfiltered off
[23:12] <[ka]killer> ok that was odd
[23:12] <USMarine> that?
[23:12] <[ka]killer> adept crashed, then kicker, then adept again in about 30seconds
[23:12] <joshuah> wats the irc room for freespire?
[23:13] <Hoondie> hey people, anyone got any idea why KDM won't start unless i reinstall the driver every time i restart?
[23:13] <fit4lfe> trying to upgrade to gusty using adept-manager
[23:13] <fit4lfe> but its not telling me to upgrade
[23:13] <fit4lfe> its says everything is updated
[23:13] <neil__> When I try to use ntfs-3g, nothing happens.
[23:13] <fit4lfe> any suggestions
[23:13] <[ka]killer> make sure you have pre-release checked in the allowed updates
[23:14] <USMarine> fit4lfe yes
[23:14] <neil__> Sorry, when I attempt to use NTFS Configuration Tool.
[23:14] <USMarine> fit4lfe http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/
[23:15] <fit4lfe> USMarine former maine here too I tried that way too but when I type in kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" tells me doesn't exist
[23:16] <USMarine> you using cd?
[23:16] <[ka]killer> if you have the iso burnt to a disk... just boot from it
[23:16] <fit4lfe> yep
[23:16] <[ka]killer> =/
[23:16] <fit4lfe> won't it delete all my files
[23:16] <fit4lfe> cause I am using feisty now
[23:16] <[ka]killer> then just update with adept
[23:17] <fit4lfe> adept doesn't work
[23:17] <[ka]killer> have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?
[23:17] <fit4lfe> yep
[23:17] <doop> is there anything bad about running amarok in gnome?
[23:17] <fit4lfe> says nothing to upgrade
[23:17] <doop> or other kde programs
[23:17] <fit4lfe> doop no
[23:17] <_michael> Hello, is there a way to launch a new kdm window on a different X display from the command line?
[23:18] <fit4lfe> should I just change all my repos to gusty ?
[23:18] <danielstewart> I'm confused, I thought I just installed ndiswrapper
[23:18] <doop> _michael, like startx?
[23:18] <danielstewart> but when I try to run it from the console it can't find it :(
[23:18] <fit4lfe> also anyone know how to change python versions
[23:18] <Hoondie> hey people, anyone got any idea why KDM won't start unless i reinstall the driver every time i restart??
[23:19] <KubuntuGuy655> I'm on dialup, so I don't have much bandwidth. I downloaded kubuntu Gutsy and the MD5 sum is wrong. Is there any program out there that can redownload just the incorrect portions of the file, or am I going to have to redownload the whole thing?
[23:19] <_michael> doop: yes but I'd like to be able to say be on :0 run it then be in :1 and login normally
[23:19] <doop> KubuntuGuy655:  go to a friend's place
[23:19] <danielstewart> Oh woops, never mind. forgot the other one
[23:19] <Lega> Brb.
[23:19] <marc2l> yoda
[23:20] <doop> _michael:  through a script?
[23:20] <KubuntuGuy655> Doop: That's what I did. I just got home from my friend's house. I was hoping I wouldn't have to borow my friend's computer again.
[23:20] <doop> KubuntuGuy655:  just bring a blank cd to his place and burn it from there
[23:20] <aguitel> anyone use wireless card with chipset Realtek rtl8180L ?
[23:20] <fit4lfe> anyone know what version update-manager uses for python
[23:21] <fit4lfe> is it 2.4 or 2.5
[23:21] <_michael> doop: Yes preferably but if I know the commands I can make one for it
[23:21] <KubuntuGuy655> His CD burner died. I had to put the file on my USB drive and bring it to my house to burn it.
[23:22] <doop> _michael:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO/cli.html
[23:22] <KubuntuGuy655> But oh well. I guess I'll just have to be patient. I was hoping maybe I could just download a few MB over dialup and save some time.
[23:22] <doop> _michael:  that'll probably tell you how to switch to different displays and the startx command will start X
[23:22] <KubuntuGuy655> I waited 6 months for Gutsy. Maybe another day or two will be okay.
[23:22] <Hoondie> KubuntuGuy655: get broadband
[23:22] <doop> _michael:  or /etc/init.d/kdm start
[23:23] <USMarine> KubuntuGuy655 has the cds to be shipped
[23:23] <KubuntuGuy655> Hoondie. I'd like to, but I'm on a tight budget.
[23:23] <_michael> doop: ok I'll look at them thanks :)
[23:23] <USMarine> ask*
[23:23] <hydrogen> Minataku: Linux Yes 2.6.23.1-local20071021-local20071021
[23:23] <doop> no probs
[23:24] <KubuntuGuy655> I was planning on buying a DVD from Linuxcd.org. I did that with v7.04. But DVDs of Gutsy don't seem to be available yet. Just teh CDS.
[23:24] <danielstewart> KubuntuGuy655: There is a good deal fo DSL I believe
[23:25] <KubuntuGuy655> But actually, I was never able to use the repository on the DVD. Did they make it easier to use a CD/DVD repository with Gutsy?
[23:25] <USMarine> i have 24Mbit for €39
[23:25] <danielstewart> Some kind of At&T Yahoo plan where it's phone tv and internet all in one
[23:25] <KubuntuGuy655> Yeah, I likd the price on Yahoo broadband, but it's not available where I live.
[23:26] <nickpresta> For some reason, my IP address keeps getting set to 192.168.1.117. I went into Network Settings and configured eth0, and set it to manual and put in 192.168.1.150 and it remains .150 for a minute and then reverts back to 117. Any ideas?
[23:26] <KubuntuGuy655> Same with Verizon or others with good prices.
[23:26] <USMarine> nickpresta maybe your dhcp server doesn't allow fixed ips
[23:26] <danielstewart> KubuntuGuy655: aww, well I'm glad you've already checked it
[23:27] <KubuntuGuy655> Besides getting the latest Kubuntu distro, I don't really need broadband.
[23:28] <nickpresta> USMarine: I've been using the same configuration for the last 2 years. This happened after the Gutsy upgrade
[23:28] <danielstewart> Almost got wifi working on feisty kubuntu
[23:28] <LastMall> att phone/tv/internet is only available to a tiny tiny fraction
[23:28] <danielstewart> I guess I can't have wireless network and wired connection simulataneously
[23:28] <USMarine> ye
[23:28] <LukosAnthropos> I can
[23:28] <USMarine> weird actually
[23:29] <Mithrandir21> does anyone know where the executable file of the "php5-common" is located? I cant seem to find it.
[23:29] <USMarine> Mithrandir21 you can easily find that with synaptic
[23:29] <Mithrandir21> I have tried.
[23:29] <danielstewart> Okay well I hope everything works with this wireless setup, I gotta bring the modem back upstairs
[23:29] <Mithrandir21> But I still cant find it, it weird.
[23:29] <USMarine> something under /usr/bin
[23:29] <danielstewart> Hopefully you all will see me in a few minutes
[23:30] <nickpresta> USMarine: I checked /etc/network/interfaces and everything looks correct - static address, correct device, etc. I don't know what the problem could be
[23:30] <USMarine> nickpresta i've no idea, people really have odd stuff going on sometimes
[23:31] <nickpresta> okay.
[23:31] <monsterb> Mithrandir21: php5-common is there - just looked with Adept
[23:31]  * NightBird ponders doing a fresh install....
[23:31] <carwash^> This is great. Setting lcdbrightness manually with acpi buttins or in /proc/acpi doesnt work. I have to use the ambient light sensor
[23:31]  * USMarine hopes NightBird has /home in a separate partition
[23:32] <NightBird> USMarine: not this time, but if I do a fresh install I will
[23:32] <carwash^> I'll just haveto start carrying a opaque piece of tape to save battery
[23:32] <USMarine> NightBird lmao
[23:32] <hitmanWilly> lol
[23:33] <USMarine> home always kept aside from the system
[23:33] <hitmanWilly> best way to do it
[23:33] <NightBird> I agree
[23:33] <NightBird> which is why I plan on doing so next time :P
[23:33] <hitmanWilly> lol
[23:34] <USMarine> in my server home and / are in LVM
[23:34] <USMarine> :P
[23:34] <hitmanWilly> had to learn that little piece of advice the hard way myself
[23:34] <USMarine> so they change sizes sometimes
[23:34] <Lega> Okay, um, I might have a problem, but I'm not sure. I updated to GG using that little screenshot pictoral thing, and now whenever I open adept and fetch updates, it pops up with the "version upgrade" button, as if I hadn't upgraded at all.  But everything looks upgraded, so I don't know. <<;;
[23:34] <USMarine> if i add a HD
[23:35] <hitmanWilly> Lega: do a uname -r in konsole
[23:35] <USMarine> Lega i had that issue, i just ignored in
[23:35] <USMarine> it*
[23:35]  * NightBird would like to install a new hard drive... since I only have something like... 40gb on my drive anyways...
[23:35] <Lega> hitmanWilly:
[23:35] <Lega> Configuration file `/etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common'
[23:35] <Lega>  ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
[23:35] <Lega>  ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
[23:35] <USMarine> NightBird i had home spread over 3 HDs
[23:35] <Lega>    What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
[23:35] <Lega>     Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[23:35] <Lega>     N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[23:36] <Lega>       D     : show the differences between the versions
[23:36] <Lega>       Z     : background this process to examine the situation
[23:36] <Lega>  The default action is to keep your current version.
[23:36] <Lega> *** linux-restricted-modules-common (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[23:36] <Lega> Ick.
[23:36] <Lega> Er, my bad, totally.
[23:36] <Lega> Did not mean to paste that at all. >.<
[23:36] <Lega> hitmanWilly: It comes up 2.6.20-16-generic
[23:36] <hitmanWilly> Lega: ok, that's feisty
[23:36] <Lega> Everything LOOKS upgraded, though. <_<?
[23:36] <LastMall> dhcp server shouldn't be able to override manually set ip
[23:36] <hitmanWilly> Lega: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:37] <hitmanWilly> !paste | Lega
[23:37] <ubotu> Lega: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:37] <Lega> Oh, yeah, I know of pastebin. :D
[23:37] <hitmanWilly> just making sure
[23:37] <monsterb> Lega: the current kernel 2.6.22-14 -- did u reboot after upgrade?
[23:38] <Lega> monsterb- Yeah.
[23:38]  * hitmanWilly likes wgetpaste
[23:39] <declan> Just wondering, has anyone figured a successful way to launch compiz on kde? I have all the bits installed and working under Gnome, but I'm tending towards KDE these days. Unfortunately, typing "compiz" or "compiz --replace" doesn't leave me with the desired result, and the thing tends to sieze up on me. Any ideas?
[23:39] <bo> How do I install firefox on kubuntu 7.10? I've tried apt-get install, aptitude install, and downloading the tar.gz file both failed with all of the above
[23:39] <monsterb> Lega: grub configured to boot new kernel?
[23:39] <USMarine> bo sudo aptitude install firefox
[23:39] <declan> bo: apt-get install firefox should work too. It did for me
[23:39] <Lega> monsterb- Em, no. I'm not entirely sure how to do that.
[23:39] <Lega> Ack, and pastebin isn't loading for me.
[23:39] <declan> Ah, yes, maybe you forgot sudo?
[23:40] <hitmanWilly> Lega: ok, pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst as well
[23:40] <USMarine> declan explain the problem better
[23:40] <miles_> hello?
[23:40] <Chousuke> bo: install iceweasel
[23:40] <bo> USMarine: seemes like it's working though, but I can't launch it. On ubuntu it's jus typing firefox, but now the command is not found.
[23:40] <Chousuke> bo: it's firefox, but with a different name.
[23:40] <monsterb> Lega: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:40] <USMarine> !hello | shakey
[23:40] <ubotu> shakey: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[23:40] <shakey> omg hi!
[23:41] <Chousuke> bo: legal stuff :(
[23:41] <hitmanWilly> Chousuke: not entirely...
[23:41] <bo> Chousuke: What is the difference between them?
[23:41] <Lega> hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41594/ <-- There is my sources...
[23:41] <Chousuke> bo: practically none
[23:41] <Techrev> Hello, I'm having issues..  Sigh..
[23:41] <Chousuke> bo: nothing you should have to care about anyway :/
[23:41] <USMarine> bo try killing any instances
[23:41] <USMarine> and starting again
[23:41] <Lega> hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41595/ <-- And there is the menu.lst
[23:42] <hitmanWilly> Lega: ok, do this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:42] <Techrev> I just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now my window managers only show up on 1 monitor..  My xorg.conf hasn't changed..
[23:42] <monsterb> Lega: paste results from cat /boot/grub/menu.lst on past.ubuntu
[23:42] <bo> Chousuke, USMarine: I have, and I successfully installed iceweasel too, but when I try to run the program, the command is not found.
[23:42] <hitmanWilly> monsterb: check his last pastebin
[23:43] <USMarine> iceweasel >.<
[23:43] <Chousuke> bo: you shouldn't run it from the terminal though :/
[23:43] <Chousuke> bo: anyway, hm
[23:43] <Chousuke> dpkg -S packagename will show you the files installed by a package I think
[23:43] <kudar> anyone know why ndiswrapper wouldn't run?
[23:43] <Chousuke> or might've been dpkg -L
[23:43] <Lega> hitmanWilly: It didn't do anything. <<;;
[23:43] <hitmanWilly> monsterb: and his menu.lst is configured for the .22 kernel
[23:44] <Lega> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. <_<
[23:44] <hitmanWilly> Lega: ok, try another reboot, see what happens
[23:44] <Lega> Let me try restarting again.
[23:44] <Lega> Yeah, brb.
[23:44] <monsterb> hitmanWilly: he just needs to reboot into new kernel ;)
[23:44] <bo> Chousuke: It's on my fathers laptop, since he doesn't speak english, it's installed in swedish. Could that have anything to do with it?
[23:45] <Chousuke> bo: no
[23:45] <hitmanWilly> monsterb: yeah, i just wanted to make sure his system wasn't stuck somewhere mid-upgrade
[23:45] <Chousuke> bo: the binary name should be the same
[23:45] <monsterb> hitmanWilly: roger that
[23:46] <declan_> OK, now I'm declan_ ... I suppose my question can be easily put. How do people here turn on compiz on kde. I'll try it, and see.
[23:46] <bo> I do get a lot of files from this location /usr/share/app-install that's related to firefox
[23:46] <Techrev> Am I in the right channel?
[23:47] <lovre> i have BIG problems here. for star: i cant download anything with Add/remove programs. Everything is gray (like NOT enabled). Why is this?
[23:47] <hitmanWilly> bo: try running firefox-bin from a konsole, see what happens
[23:47] <monsterb> lovre: you need to be sudo
[23:48] <hitmanWilly> lovre: are you running it as root?
[23:48] <Techrev> What channel should I go in for normal ubuntu support?
[23:48] <bo> hitmanWilly: bash: firefox-bin: command not found
[23:48] <hitmanWilly> Techrev: #ubuntu
[23:48] <Techrev> duh, kk..  LOL
[23:48] <shakey> hey guys im logged in as root right now, is that bad?
[23:48] <LjL> usually yes
[23:48] <monsterb> declan__: do have everything installed?
[23:48] <hitmanWilly> bo: try sudo apt-get install firefox and pastebin the output please
[23:48] <bo> hitmanWilly: will do
[23:49] <LjL> shakey: is there any reason you think you need to be logged in as root?
[23:49] <lovre> no, i am not running as root. But when i was on 7.04 i didnt have to. Now i am on 7.10. How do i run as root anyway?
[23:49] <hitmanWilly> lovre: kdesu
[23:49] <shakey> no, im just playing
[23:49] <LjL> shakey: with fire.
[23:49]  * shakey co-signs
[23:49] <lovre> hitmanWilly: what is 'kdesu'
[23:49] <stdin> !kdesu | lovre
[23:49] <ubotu> lovre: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[23:49] <monsterb> lovre: it should ask for password when u launch adept or synaptic...
[23:50] <hitmanWilly> wow, they changed it...
[23:50] <bo> hitmanWilly: Since I think that you do not speak swedish, the output is: the package firefox has no installation candidate
[23:50] <juan_> hello all! my kdm theme manager won't let me install new themes, any idea on how to do it manually?
[23:50] <hitmanWilly> bo: hmmm (and no, I don't speak sweedish :) )
[23:51] <stdin> bo: check the repositories, make sure they aren't disabled
[23:51] <hitmanWilly> bo: try mozilla-firefox, see what happens with that
[23:51] <lovre> monsterb, it doesnt, i just go to manu and select add/remove, it starts, but i cant install anything new, just deinstall stuff.  Is there a possibility it doesnt know where to look?
[23:51] <Lega> Ah, the reboot seemed to have worked.
[23:52] <bo> hitmanWilly: what is the general difference between aptitude and apt-get? and there's no difference when I run mozilla-firefox btw
[23:52] <monsterb> cool Lega
[23:52] <hitmanWilly> Lega: it just wasn't booted into the new kernel
[23:52] <Lega> Neat. Thanks guys. :D
[23:52] <lovre> why was i able to run add/remove normally on  7.04, and i cant now on 7.10?
[23:52] <kudar> anyone know why wireless would be slow iin gutsy with intel 4965 wifi card?
[23:53] <Lega> Agh, that version upgrade button still pops up, though.
[23:53] <juan_> anyone know how to install kdm themes manually?
[23:53] <stdin> Lega: known issue
[23:53] <monsterb> lovre: hmm it should ask for password
[23:53] <Lega> Oh, cool- thanks stdin. ^^
[23:53] <hitmanWilly> kudar: they updated the drivers, make sure you're booting into the -generic kernel, not -386
[23:53] <stdin> juan_: saying it doesn't let you install a theme doesn't say much. what happens when you try
[23:54] <kudar> hitman: at boot it says im booting into generic... how can i check in command terminal?
[23:54] <lovre> how do i run Add/Remove from console?
[23:54] <lovre> monsterb: how do i run add/remove from console?
[23:54] <stdin> lovre: kdesu adept_installer
[23:54] <juan_> stdin it reads it, but doesn't show them in the list
[23:54] <hitmanWilly> lovre: try this: kdesu adept-installer
[23:54] <hitmanWilly> iirc that's the cmd
[23:55] <monsterb> lovre: adept_installer
[23:55]  * hitmanWilly mainly uses apt, so i'm a little bit rusty with adept
[23:55] <stdin> juan_: sounds more like a bad theme package, a theme package is just a archive with files it in
[23:55] <lovre> it runs, but same thing, all gray
[23:55] <lovre> even when i kdesu
[23:55] <bo> I'm dowloading the tar.gz file from getfirefox.com instead. Let's see what happens
[23:55] <sunilonln> my brightness adjustment keys stopped working after an upgrade to gutsy... any ideas?
[23:55] <lovre> :(
[23:56] <kudar> hitman: how can i be sure im booting into generic?
[23:56] <juan_> i have downloaded a few from kde look org, but none ofg them work
[23:56] <monsterb> lovre: how fresh is this install?
[23:56] <lovre> 10 minutes
[23:56] <monsterb> Have u rebooted since u installed?
[23:56] <hitmanWilly> kudar: run uname -r in a konsole
[23:56] <lovre> monsterb: yes
[23:57] <krisbuntu> after upgrading to 7.10, I can't get adept to connect to sources anymore
[23:57] <kudar> hitman:
[23:57] <kudar> kudar@ubuntubox:~$ uname -r
[23:57] <kudar> 2.6.22-14-generic
[23:57] <kudar> kudar@ubuntubox:~$
[23:57] <hitmanWilly> kudar: it should have a -generic tag tacked onto the end of the kernel version
[23:57] <hitmanWilly> yeah, that's the generic kernel
[23:58] <kudar> ok.. well my wifi is still pulling down only 200kb/sec
[23:58] <hitmanWilly> kudar: hold on a sec, lemme check my lappy for something
[23:58] <monsterb> lovre: not sure ... im doing it here and it's asking for password ... hmmm
[23:59]  * monsterb thinking....
[23:59] <shakey> what AV software is better in your opinion, ClamAV or AVG?