pike_really slick job on the mybuntu control centre. very yast like only good00:34
pike_i cant believe how easy everything is for gui config in 7.1000:35
Davieypike_: hmm.. I don't like mcc and yast being used in the same sentence! :)00:40
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MythbuntuGuest70Hi every one03:40
foxbuntuHi MythbuntuGuest7003:44
foxbuntuis there something you need help with?03:44
MythbuntuGuest70how do i set my tv to 16:9 and keep it like that03:59
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest70, what do you mean?03:59
tritiumMythbuntuGuest70: that's TV-specific04:00
toorimado you mean in mythvideo or just watch tv?04:03
MythbuntuGuest70the watch tv . i set it on the appearance but it does not stay04:04
MythbuntuGuest70is their any other place i need to set it.04:08
tazgodxhmmmm, so when transferring a files over to my mythbuntu box through samba, it seems the whole computer freezes up. the front HDD light is constantly lit, and the computer doesn't respond04:17
tazgodxdidn't have a problem before upgrading this box to gutsy...could that be a problem?04:17
tritiumHi Dr_willis_04:39
MythbuntuGuest61does any one know how to make the tv stay at 16:904:40
superm1MythbuntuGuest61, are you in a 16:9 resolution?04:41
MythbuntuGuest61when i lunch watch tv i need to hit w to get the tv to 16:9 so it take up the hole screen. i have a wide tv04:42
superm1MythbuntuGuest61, okay does your tv have a way of telling you what resolution input it is taking?04:42
superm1i would suspect it's not in a wide screen resolution04:42
superm1if its not taking up the entire screen04:43
superm1like an 'info' button on the remote04:43
tritiumsuperm1: are you needing more RC testing before releasing?04:43
MythbuntuGuest61when i set the computer to 1280 x 768 it take just about the hole tv04:43
tazgodxsuperm1: have you heard of anything about samba almost locking up mythbuntu box?04:44
superm1tritium, we have one last patch that will be getting in.  i think we're good though once that patch is in04:44
superm1provided the patch works, we're announcing monday04:44
tritiumsuperm1: oh, okay, great!  Congrats!04:44
superm1tazgodx, I/O probably?04:44
tazgodxi don't know what it is, but i just tried it again, always gets to 68% and then the red HDD activity light just turns on, and this time my box just rebooted itselft04:45
tazgodxreally weird04:45
tazgodxnow my box is starting back up,a nd the HDD light is still lit04:46
MythbuntuGuest61i have the pc set to default resolution and it look like 1280x768 and when i use watch tv its like half of the tv. i have to hit w to strech the image to full screen whitch it seays 16:904:46
superm1MythbuntuGuest61, is it a 16:9 video you're looking at?04:47
superm1or is it a 4:304:47
tazgodxis there a HDD diagnostic tool? maybe my HDD is failing?04:48
superm1tazgodx, google for DFT04:48
superm1and burn the iso you find04:48
MythbuntuGuest61its tv and i have to strech the image to 16:904:49
MythbuntuGuest61it starts out at 4:304:49
superm1MythbuntuGuest61, but is it a 16:9 image though04:49
superm1because if its a 4:3 video, that is the normal behavior04:50
tazgodxill tell you what, DFT is a crappy google search. but i think i found it :)04:50
superm1tazgodx, its the first result for me...04:50
tazgodxfirst result for me "Discrete Fourier transform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"04:50
tazgodxthen i got detroit film theater, and department for transportation04:51
superm1well these are my "personalized results"04:51
superm1i guess04:51
tazgodxgoogle doesn't like me i guess, wants to make it hard04:52
tazgodxyou were referring to drive fitness test right?04:52
tazgodxthanks, ill test that now then04:53
MythbuntuGuest61how do i capcher at 16:904:53
superm1MythbuntuGuest61, well typically that's something that you get from hidef capture04:53
superm1or from a digital tuner04:53
superm1if you prefer your 4:3 videos to be stretched by default (even though that's not the way they are supposed to look), you can set that up too04:54
MythbuntuGuest61with the last verson of mythbuntu i was full screen all the time.04:54
MythbuntuGuest61do i make the schange04:55
superm1its in appearance settings for mythtv04:55
superm1under appearance04:55
superm1go to video mode settings04:56
superm1and then you can override what video mode things are in04:56
superm1and what aspect ratio to use04:56
superm1or on screensettings04:56
superm1you can change the aspect ratio there too04:56
MythbuntuGuest61i seen that but it does not do any thing04:56
MythbuntuGuest61change it to 16:9 and use gui settings for tv but does not change any thing. do i need to reboot04:57
superm1need to restart mythfrontend04:57
superm1you dont need to reboot to restart mythfrontend though04:57
MythbuntuGuest61ok let me try it04:58
tazgodxi think im gonna need to buy a new HDD....i have a bad feeling04:58
tazgodxgood time to get that 500GB i wanted tho :)04:59
tazgodxjust wish i had a sata connection :(04:59
tgm4883_laptopanyone tried installing MRE?05:00
tritiumsuperm1: is there a doc/resource that hilights the pros/cons of a mythbuntu install versus installing mythbuntu-desktop on top of a default desktop install?05:00
tazgodxi was going to next week sometime05:01
andruki want myth to store the recordings on a separate drive (called storage, i put the entry in fstab and remounted it), and myth tells me that "Path /media/storage/ doesn't exist."  help?05:01
superm1tritium, not yet05:01
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, @ me?05:01
superm1but that's a good idea for us to do05:01
tazgodxyeah tgm4883_laptop05:01
tgm4883_laptopwhat do you think about this?05:02
tgm4883_laptopif [[ ! -f conf/mre.conf ]]; then /usr/bin/install --mode=644 -b conf/mre.conf /etc; fi05:02
tgm4883_laptop/bin/sh: [[: not found05:02
tritiumsuperm1: any obvious things you could point out off the top of your head?05:02
tazgodxi think that totally confuses me :)05:02
foxbuntuandruk, please pastebin your fstab05:03
foxbuntu!pastebin | andruk05:03
ubotuandruk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:03
superm1tgm4883, [ [ not [[05:03
superm1tazgodx, off hand, its a heck of a lot less automated05:04
* Wy|laptop ponders when we'll get bluray and hddvd xine support05:04
MythbuntuGuest61yeah that setting does not make any change. i make shore the "use GUI size for tv playback" is on.  do i have to change xinerama screen to "all" ?05:04
andrukfoxbuntu: its on a different comp.  do you want to double check that line or what (ie- how much do you want me to reproduce)?05:04
tazgodxyeah, i know its probably a pain to install and get working. but its a great idea :)05:05
foxbuntuandruk, the line is fine too05:05
superm1tazgodx, also you can't customize root password for mysql during an add to ubuntu install05:05
superm1as easil05:05
superm1and then there is the bloat of an existing install05:06
MythbuntuGuest61any thing else i can try to make it work.05:06
andrukfoxbuntu: /dev/hdb1 /media/storage reiserfs rw,nosuid,nodev 0 005:06
tritiumsuperm1: thanks.  Those responses appear to be for me, correct?  :)05:07
superm1yeah tritium sorry05:07
tritiumsuperm1: thanks again!05:07
superm1tritium, actually you know what05:07
tritiumyeah, nick completion ;)05:07
superm1you got a few moments?05:07
superm1you want to quickly whip up a page for the install manual summarizing this?05:07
foxbuntuandruk, I think you need to revise your mount options on that05:08
tritiumsuperm1: summarizing what you just told me?05:08
superm1tritium, yeah in better wording and such05:08
andrukfoxbuntu: k, will do.  thanks.05:08
superm1maybe elaborating on it?05:08
tritiumsuperm1: okay -- URL?05:08
superm1tritium, let me point you at the bzr branch05:08
foxbuntuandruk, you need to have something like05:08
superm1tritium, you used LaTeX before or no?05:08
tritiumsuperm1: yes :)05:08
tgm4883_laptopnope superm1, I get a different error then, and ./configure just puts it back the first way05:08
tritiumfor my dissertation...05:09
foxbuntuandruk, /dev/hdb /media/storage file_system_type defaults 0 005:09
superm1awesome tritium: bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/documentation05:09
tritiumsuperm1: now, bzr is not something I've used, however05:09
superm1tritium, okay its a matter of typing that command05:09
superm1which will check out the branch05:09
superm1making your changes, and then i'll teach you how to make the diff05:10
superm1thanks a bunch, this is most appreciated!05:10
tritiumNo problem.05:10
tritiumThanks for asking.05:10
andrukfoxbuntu: changed and remounted, same problem05:11
foxbuntuandruk, did you mount at /dev/hdb or /dev/hdb1 ?05:11
foxbuntuand does your fs_type match the formated file system?05:12
andrukfoxbuntu: hdb105:12
andrukfoxbuntu: yes05:12
foxbuntuwhat is it?05:12
foxbuntuandruk, you formated your drive as that?05:12
tgm4883_laptopandruk, whats the problem?05:13
andrukfoxbuntu: yes...05:13
foxbuntuandruk, ok just dbl checking05:13
foxbuntudid you set to defaults?05:13
tgm4883_laptopandruk, foxbuntu is the problem corrupted recordings?05:13
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, no05:14
tgm4883_laptopjust wondering05:14
andrukfoxbuntu: lol, k, yes.  the line is: /dev/hdb1 /media/storage reiserfs defaults 0 0    tgm4883_laptop: nope, myth says the dir doesnt exist05:14
tgm4883_laptopit's not reiserfs v3 is it?05:14
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop <-- the corrupted recording05:14
andruki believe its 405:14
tgm4883_laptopif it's 3 you'll get corrupted recordings05:15
andruktgm4883_laptop: there a way i can check?05:15
foxbuntuandruk, can you browse to it in the shell?05:15
tazgodxok well DFT just sitts here trying to detect my secondary IDE Master....05:15
andrukfoxbuntu: yep05:15
foxbuntuandruk, have you restarted Mythfrontend since you added this?05:16
superm1tazgodx, that's not a good sign...05:16
* tazgodx cries05:16
andrukfoxbuntu: oh, no.  i just set it up.  so im still in the livecd and havent restarted yet.05:16
foxbuntutazgodx, time for a new drive05:16
tritiumsuperm1: Fetch phase 1/4 sure takes a long time!05:16
foxbuntuandruk, ahh05:16
foxbuntuandruk, reboot05:16
tazgodxis there such a thing as a PCI card with sata ports? i would perfer sata drives over IDE, and i don't have sata on my mobo05:16
foxbuntutazgodx, yes05:17
foxbuntutazgodx, they are like 40$ on newegg.com05:17
andrukfoxbuntu: k, how do i rerun the setup?  mythtvsetup?05:17
foxbuntuandruk, you haven't installed it yet?05:17
tazgodxthink its worth it? what is the data transfer rate over PCI? would it cause a bottleneck with my drive you think?05:17
foxbuntutazgodx, most likely not05:18
tgm4883_laptopandruk, i dont know, i use XFS and i haven't seen anything in google that points me at how to check05:18
foxbuntusata is 150MB / sec and ata is ~ 100MB /sec05:18
andrukfoxbuntu: i was setting it up and it basically led me to do the schedules direct registration and the setup.05:18
tazgodxsata is 333.0GB/sec05:19
foxbuntuandruk, if you havent rebooted go ahead and set that up and the setup for the drive can be done easily after reboot05:19
foxbuntutazgodx, well SATA II is05:19
tgm4883_laptoppci is 133MB/s05:19
foxbuntutazgodx, however most motherboards are the bottle neck05:20
foxbuntutazgodx, so to answer your question...no05:20
tazgodxpci is 133? i know ide is 13305:20
foxbuntunormal pci is 133 as well05:20
foxbuntuPCI-E is faster...but I don;t know the numbers05:21
superm1tritium, yeah it's a big branch05:21
superm1tritium, holy crap, its actually like: $ du -sh05:21
superm1110M    .05:21
superm1tritium, are you on gutsy05:21
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, 250MB/s to 4GB/s05:21
superm1bzr+ssh will be faster i think then05:21
tazgodxmaybe ill just look for a new mobo, and replace that with the HDD05:21
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, thanks05:22
tritiumsuperm1: yes05:22
superm1tritium, er that's the size after make is typed.  the branch itself is 35 mb05:22
superm1tritium, do a du -sh on the directory and see how far you've come05:22
tritiumThat's not too bad.05:22
foxbuntutazgodx, eh..you are still going to be limited below sata's capable speed05:22
superm1if its less than like 10 megs, then i'll say you should do bzr+ssh instead05:22
tritiumI can wait.  I need to install texlive, anyway.05:22
tazgodxahhh, forget it. ill just buy a few IDEs 500GB should be plenty. thanks05:23
foxbuntusuperm1, my hosting service is so janky05:23
foxbuntuI can't even create vhosts through support05:23
superm1tritium, you'll need a few more packages besides texlive i think, but you'll find out as you run05:24
superm1i believe imagemagick05:24
tritiumsuperm1: okay, no sweat.05:24
superm1preview-latex-style dblatex texlive-latex-recommended05:25
tritiumOkay, thanks, superm1.05:25
* tritium waits for texlive to finish installing...05:33
foxbuntusuperm1, just came up with another idea...DING! New spec added to mythbuntu-ipod05:37
=== MythbuntuGuest42 is now known as stevetv
tazgodxare you guys going to add jobs to the mcc?05:44
tgm4883_laptopmre is giving me some trouble05:45
tazgodxhmmm, if its giving you trouble, im not even going to try05:45
tazgodxits kinda old tho05:45
andrukfoxbuntu: same problem05:46
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, what is mre?05:46
foxbuntuandruk, strange05:46
tazgodxmedia recording extender05:46
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, ^^05:47
foxbuntutazgodx, what does it do?05:47
tgm4883_laptopit extends recordings05:47
tgm4883_laptopsporting events05:47
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, smart arse05:47
tazgodxif it notices a sports event running late, it extends it05:47
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, oh that thing you showed me awhile back05:47
tazgodxso it there is overtime it keeps recording05:48
tgm4883_laptopor if regular time is running late too05:48
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, I don't think we should package that into Mythbuntu, or at least without a stern warning about its backend functions05:48
tgm4883_laptopoh it's not going to be installed05:49
tgm4883_laptopat this rate05:49
tgm4883_laptopit's not going to function05:49
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, it looks this go around I am going to spend alot of time with MythMusic and MythWeather along side of the artwork05:50
tgm4883_laptopanyone know php well?05:51
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, I know it some05:51
foxbuntupastebin your error05:51
tgm4883_laptopheh, well im not so sure you want the error, or the config or what05:51
tgm4883_laptopi'll pastebin a bunch of stuff05:51
Wy|laptopanyone here do wireless streaming?05:52
Wy|laptopnot really a myth issue, buuut just wondering05:52
stevetvwireless streaming to my second frontend yes05:53
stevetvif that is what u meant05:53
Wy|laptopWhat are you running for your network?05:53
* Wy|laptop is pondering a 802.11n bridging solution05:54
stevetvlol.. just a netcom 54mb router05:54
stevetvmy box is only sd though05:54
stevetvyour n solution will be much faster than my network05:55
Wy|laptopyeah, I'm having problems streaming HD05:55
foxbuntuWy|laptop, I would suggest holding off on Wireless=N for now05:55
tgm4883_laptopWy|laptop, you can almost do HD on a G connection05:55
Wy|laptoprunning a pair of openWRT boxes atm, server's on one side, htpc's on the other05:55
Wy|laptopfox: why?05:55
stevetvtgm .. i cant get close to hd .. and my frontend box is phyically only about 2 meters from my router05:56
foxbuntuWy|laptop, I know the actual technology behind Wireless Spec N quite well...and I would say to stay away from it for now05:56
Wy|laptopsteve: yeah, I've got about 40 feet to cross05:56
Wy|laptopthrough a second story and several walls05:57
tgm4883_laptopstevetv, is that a hardware problem though, or a wireless problem?05:57
Wy|laptopfox: even if I stick with the same brand for both wireless interfaces, and the 5ghz band?05:57
foxbuntuWy|laptop, yep05:57
foxbuntuWy|laptop, get a fast G and you should be fine05:57
stevetvtgm.. yeah well maybe it's a hardware problem.  buti get much stuttering with hd.. it just seemed my network didn't have the bandwidth05:58
Wy|laptopis there a reason?05:58
foxbuntuWy|laptop, something with MIMO or equiv should work05:58
Wy|laptopusing a pair of WRT54GLs right now05:58
tgm4883_laptopstevetv, what hardware?05:58
tazgodxso, would you guys recommend a seagate HDD over WD? or WD?05:59
Wy|laptopwhat precisely is the problem? the draft spec?05:59
stevetvmy remote wireless frontend is a compaq laptop.. its using the built in centrino laptop wireless.05:59
Wy|laptoptazgodx: I'd say pick one that makes you happy.05:59
foxbuntuWy|laptop, Idk what those are other than Linksys05:59
Wy|laptopie, price / performance / warantee05:59
Wy|laptopfoxbuntu: basic G routers, linux friendly, 2.4ghz band. I'm using openwrt kamikaze06:00
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, http://pastebin.com/m5978205c06:00
foxbuntuWy|laptop, the actual technology is bad behind N right now...I have talked to engineers in the Wifi industry and they tell me its a bad implmentation of wireless right now, its data handeling can drop lots of packets and you have to match all the hardware exatly to make sure it works at all right now06:01
tgm4883_laptopstevetv, cpu speed?  Vid card?06:01
Wy|laptopfox: well, shouldn't be a big problem if I match cards, right?06:01
Wy|laptopit's going to be for a bridge solution, not a general access solution06:02
tritiumnothing wrong with N at the physical layer06:02
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, i should have sent you this one first06:03
foxbuntuWy|laptop, even then...if you are going to try it I say good luck...but I have talked to far too many people in the field that have said its a waste over fast G/A right now06:03
Wy|laptopfox: noted.06:04
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, I am not totaly sure...however I think this [[ ! -f conf/mre.conf ]] should be [ [ ! -f conf/mre.conf ] ]06:06
tgm4883_laptoptried that06:08
tgm4883_laptopdifferent error06:08
foxbuntuwhat is the error with that?06:08
tgm4883_laptopif [ [ ! -f conf/mre.conf ] ]; then /usr/bin/install --mode=644 -b conf/mre.conf /etc; fi06:08
tgm4883_laptop[: 1: !: unexpected operator06:08
tgm4883_laptopif [ [ -d /etc/logrotate.d ] ]; then /usr/bin/install --mode=644 logrotate/mre /etc/logrotate.d; fi06:08
tgm4883_laptop[: 1: -d: unexpected operator06:08
superm1tgm4883, just try it with a single [06:11
superm1rather than two06:11
tgm4883_laptopi did that too :)06:11
tgm4883_laptopand that worked06:11
tgm4883_laptopbut then I got the first link posted06:11
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, http://pastebin.com/m5978205c06:11
tgm4883_laptopthis error, is when i try to start it06:12
superm1so it didn't install the file?06:12
superm1or it did06:12
tgm4883_laptopit did06:12
tgm4883_laptopand when i run it06:12
tgm4883_laptopthats what i get, and thats also the part of the file that it points to06:13
superm1i dunno06:13
superm1sounds like a bug in the program06:13
stevetvgents.. is there a flash player in mythweb that will play recordings on the fly?06:13
stevetvie .. not download the entire file before playing it?06:13
tazgodxthere are no plugins for mythweb06:14
tazgodxno flash06:14
tgm4883_laptopI think thats what mythstreamtv does06:14
tazgodxno, mythstreamtv streams over the net to a non mythtv computer06:14
tazgodxstreams recorded content06:14
tgm4883_laptopis that not what he just asked?06:15
tazgodxyour thinking mythstream06:15
tazgodxmaybe im confused06:15
tgm4883_laptopim thinking he wants to access his mythweb from another computer, and have it stream to the computer instead of d/l the file first06:15
tazgodxbut it mythstreamtv won't play on the fly. it only plays recorded content06:15
tgm4883_laptopthat makes no sense to me06:16
tgm4883_laptopdefine play on the fly06:16
tazgodxim getting myself confused06:16
tazgodxby on the fly, i meant live tv06:16
tgm4883_laptopon the fly would be playing while streaming, not playing after downloading06:17
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, I am not totaly sure...however I think this [[ ! -f conf/mre.conf ]] should be [ [! -f conf/mre.conf] ]06:17
tazgodxi guess mythstreamtv does what he wants then06:17
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, isn't that what you just told me?06:18
foxbuntuwhite space removed06:18
foxbuntulook again06:18
tgm4883_laptoplike this06:19
tgm4883_laptopif [ [! -f conf/mre.conf] ]; then /usr/bin/install --mode=644 -b conf/mre.conf /etc; fi06:19
tgm4883_laptop[: 1: -f: unexpected operator06:19
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, did you say you were going to try this?06:19
tazgodxhaha, was06:19
tazgodxim having second thoughts tho06:20
tazgodxseeing you06:20
tgm4883_laptopactually I think i would still try if I were you06:20
tgm4883_laptopI'm wondering if the MRE is specifically written for 32-bit06:20
tazgodxif you would like to install on my 32-bit system, ill give you the IP and you can VNC in :)06:21
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, try chaning the [[ 's to (06:21
tgm4883_laptopif ( (! -f conf/mre.conf) ); then /usr/bin/install --mode=644 -b conf/mre.conf /etc; fi06:22
tgm4883_laptop/bin/sh: -f: not found06:22
tgm4883_laptopif ( ( -d /etc/logrotate.d ) ); then /usr/bin/install --mode=644 logrotate/mre /etc/logrotate.d; fi06:22
tgm4883_laptop/bin/sh: -d: not found06:22
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, it's really just a few commands06:23
tgm4883_laptopand a few extra installed items06:23
stevetvwow..  yes tgm, i believed thats what i asked.  .. i think.  ill have to read through this all06:24
tazgodxis that a no? :)06:24
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, can you send me the link to the whole package so I can tear on it there and try a few things?06:24
tgm4883_laptopwell it's all command line, so ssh would be prefered06:24
tgm4883_laptopyea sec06:24
tritiumAnd finally texlive is finished installing...06:26
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=16036406:26
tazgodxso you want ssh info?06:27
foxbuntutgm4883_laptop, great..I will take a look after I get my lappy fixed06:34
tritiumsuperm1: wow, nice set of documentation.  Where shall I add this info?06:40
superm1tritium, make a new .tex file06:41
superm1and follow the same syntax06:41
superm1and then include it on the top level file06:41
superm1near the start of the install06:41
tritiumsuperm1: okay06:41
superm1tritium, also it'd be worthwhile to link to the website's url to install from the web06:41
superm1after explaining the differences06:42
tritiumsuperm1: I noted that texlive already pulls in preview-latex-style, texlive-latex-extra, and texlive-latex-recommended06:42
superm1ah easy nough06:42
tritiumsuperm1: mythbuntu URL, or ubuntu URL?06:43
superm1tritium, http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu06:43
superm1link to that06:43
tritiumgotcha, thanks06:43
tritiumsuperm1: as it's getting late, I may prefer to finish this up tomorrow06:44
superm1tritium, okay sounds good06:44
superm1as long as its in before the end of the day tomrorow06:45
superm1so that its ready for announce :)06:45
tritiumOkay, not a problem.06:45
tritiumWhat time zone?06:45
superm1central time06:45
tritiumOkay, I'm in Mountain06:45
tazgodxso are you guys planning on including mythstreamtv in mythbuntu? i think all other mythtv disrtos include it06:46
superm1tazgodx, not for gutsy release no.06:47
tritiumIt appears to be packaged, though.  So you can add it.06:47
tgm4883_laptoptritium, source package?06:49
tazgodxmythstreamtv is packaged?06:49
tritiummythstream is, rather06:50
tazgodxi didn't know either one were actualy06:50
tazgodxbut mythstream is completely different :)06:50
tritiummythstream is in universe06:50
tgm4883_laptopmythstream comes with mythbuntu06:51
tgm4883_laptopon the cd06:51
tgm4883_laptopmythstreamtv does not, and is not in the repos06:51
tgm4883_laptopthey are different programs06:51
tazgodxmythstream is on the mythbuntu cd? does it install it by default?06:52
stevetvyes tasgodx.. its installed06:54
stevetvits in the menu as main > videos > play online streams06:54
tazgodxhmm, i didn't notice it before06:55
stevetv0.21 has a flash player for mythtv.07:01
tritiumsuperm1: I'll be in touch tomorrow.  Feel free to /query me.  I'll be away, but will stay connected.07:01
superm1okay tritium07:01
superm1sounds good07:01
tritiumGood night.07:01
tazgodxsuperm1: is mythstreamtv planned for the next rls? just curious07:02
tgm4883_laptop$add spec07:02
mythbotPlease write up a new specification for that here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/  We appreciate the ideas.  Without a blueprint, there is a 99% chance that it won't get done.07:02
tgm4883_laptopim going to bed07:03
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, http://www.mythbuntu.org/7.10/release_notes07:03
superm1night tgm4883_laptop07:09
superm1good good07:09
gibDoes anyone have any idea why I can't change my audio sampling rate for Hardware MPEG-2 default back to 32000?  I changed it to 48000 and want to change it back, but it won't let me.  It's locked on 48000 and won't let me change it.  I can change anything else in the profile, and can also change the sampling rate in any of the other profiles High, Low, etc.07:15
rooausI am not a Debian expert and want to pick the brains of some experienced users here if that is ok? Is it easy to use the source packages to build trunk binaries of a particular svn version and apply my own patches?07:16
superm1rooaus, you'll be better poking in here in ~12-18 hours07:17
rooaussuperm1: Why is that, time difference?07:17
superm1the person who does a fair amount of trunk stuff07:17
gibI've been wondering why it's been so quite in here the last few day.  You guys working fast and furious to make the final release?07:18
superm1well we've moved a majority of -dev stuff to a different -dev channel :)07:18
superm1to separate dev and support talk07:18
rooaussuperm1: Ah, I thought you said there was a dev channel once but don't remember seeing it on the website. Is it a closed shop?07:20
gibOh, so now it's just the blind leading the blind left in here, huh?  All us MythTv newbies attempting to help each other out.07:20
superm1rooaus, well anyone can join in it, but we're trying to avoid being too public so we don't catch a lot of people coming in there if we're not responsive here07:20
superm1#ubuntu-mythtv-dev :)07:20
superm1well i mean all of us in there are here too07:21
superm1but our dev talk goes on there instead07:21
rooauscunning ;)07:21
gibYou have any idea why you won't be allowed to change a default setting back after you change it?07:22
stevetvsuperm1 .. so dev is like the area where all the cool kids hang out and smoke?07:22
stevetv.. you know it is..07:23
superm1gib, that's a pretty general question07:23
gibI was more specific a few lines up07:23
superm1gib, not too sure07:24
stevetvgib.. not to suggest something obvious.. but have you tried just restarting?  what you described shouldn't happen07:24
stevetvlol.. dang07:25
stevetv.. cause thats my favorate solution07:25
rooaussuperm1: Is l* the man to talk to?07:25
superm1rooaus, laga you mean?07:25
gibSo, what's my recourse?  Can I just delete and recreate the default profile somehow?07:26
gibOr manually edit a config file to make the change?07:26
rooausgib: Have you checked your logs, myth usuallywrites helpful information to it's log files if there has been some error.07:26
gibNo, but it doesn't seem like myth is thinking of it as an error;  it seems that it thinks 48000 is the only option for some reason.  It doesn't even show any other options.07:28
gibAlthough, strangly enough it show 32000 as an option in Live  TV, HQ, and LQ profiles, just not Default anymore.07:28
rooausI am not sure mate, does seem odd.07:31
gibWhere are these profiles stored?  In the sql-server database?07:32
gibIs there a way to reset a Default profile to it's defaults? :)07:32
rooausgib: All settings are in the db, you could trawl the source to work out the defaults and manually set them.07:33
gibWell, the hole problem is that I CAN'T set the one property, not that I don't remember the default values.07:34
rooausOr (and don't blame me if this goes wrong), backup your DB then drop the table for the profiles. Myth should recreate the missing table *I think*.07:35
gibbtw, how do you delete a profile.  It lets you create as many as you like, but I see no option for removing profiles.07:36
rooausI don't think my suggestion earlier will work, I have just tried it on a test box (laptop). The table does not appear to get recreated.07:39
gibThe only thing I can think to do is run backend setup and completely remove and recreate card.  It seem like there should be a less drastic way.07:41
rooausI think to delete a profile you can just press 'D' with the profile highlighted. At least that work in a lot of the areas where the deletion is not on a popup etc.07:42
gibI wonder if Default is treated differently though, because it won't let you rename it like you can the other profiles.07:44
rooausgib: I think you are right, if it gets renamed I think things go pear shaped. Myth may be "protecting" it.07:46
gibI just removed the capture card and re-added it.07:48
gibI'll bet that 32000 option will come back.07:49
gibDo you happen to know how much difference in storages space and extra cpu drain to replay audio sampling at 48000 vs 32000 makes?07:51
gibHmm.  That's interesting.  Removing and re-adding the card didn't help.07:55
rooausDon't know for sure, wouldn't think it would be much in comparison to video processing/storage.07:55
gibI'm using a 1Ghz C3 chip and CPU power is at a premium.  I want to run playback with a noise filter, and with anything over 480x480, cpu usage gets high enough to make playback choppy.07:57
gib480x480 w/ quickdnr = 70% and video will run smoothly, anything beyond = choppy.07:58
gibI just rebuilt ffmpeg with c3 nehemiah optimizations, but that didn't make a big enough difference.07:59
rooausgib: You would get better optimisations by compiling mythtv itself, should be able to do it from the source debs. A tweaked ffmpeg is included in the myth source tree, so compiling it separately probably won't help within myth.08:11
gibI rebuilt the libmpeg2d1 package and it dep packages.  That won't have an effect?08:14
rooausMy understanding is the myth sync's to ffmpeg "upstream". ie periodically the devs get the latest ffmpeg snapshot, make some myth related customisations and include it in the mythtv source code.08:17
gibI just downloaded and rebuilt the cvs that was already being used by mythbuntu.08:17
gibfrom the .deb sources08:18
gibIt would be cool if Myth tv offered pre-compiled optimized packages for certain cpu that have unusual requirements like the via chips.08:20
gibDue to it's small cache08:20
rooausthat is the job of the distro's, you should find that the configure from mythtv should recognise your via processor. Maybe you need to look at minimyth, I believe it is made for the via mini-itx.08:23
gibI'll take a look at it.08:25
rooausIt may be worth looking at it, "right tool for the job" and all. :)08:27
gibI don't have an all-in-one via mini system though.  I have a C3 Nehemiah chip in a sis motherboard.08:29
rooauswow, didn't know they put them in anything else apart from SBCs.08:32
h3xhow do you get into the setup screen for component output,08:34
h3xlike the one the installer uses08:34
gibIt was one of the last chips they make before they abandoned the reg chip market to go only integrated.08:36
gibIt would be cool if they would program nvidia gpus to run filters inside the gpu08:39
gibYou can't use XvMC if you're using filters or it will ignore them.  I can't get it XvMC to work anyway though--except on xine (xxmc).08:41
gibIf you could pass the filter to the gpu you could though.08:42
gibIt seems the via optimizations helped a couple % points--could be a my imagination though.08:44
gibI wonder how much difference a C3-2 optimized kernel would make.08:45
gibAre there any repos with ubuntu kernels with different optimizations?08:46
solarbabyWho lives?13:02
Nino_AderriHi, when will Mythbuntu 7.10 be released ?14:30
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therethinkerstill working, good14:43
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fadumpt_on a mythbuntu frontend/backend, the frontend won't start,  goes to the database setup screen...mysql is running and  password is right16:11
solarbabyI just wonder if I damaged my crontab file because the very first time I saved it i forgot to use -e16:11
solarbabysounds like even though your database is running, your not accessing it16:12
fadumpt_any idea why?16:13
solarbabydid you assign a ip address?16:13
solarbabyit might be better to leave it as
solarbabytry messing with that16:13
fadumpt_oh okay16:13
fadumpt_no, that didn't help16:14
fadumpt_I did try changing the password several times thinking it may be a bad password (says access denied to database when I run the frontend (in the background command line window)16:15
fadumpt_is there somewhere else I need to go to update the password change?16:15
fadumpt_or does denied mean something else entiraly?16:15
solarbabyso you want to check to make sure your password is correct?16:18
fadumpt_yeah I think so16:18
fadumpt_i read somewhere to check a mysql.conf file or something in etc but I think that was still for mythtv16:18
fadumpt_not mysql in general16:18
solarbabyyeahh your password will be in there16:19
solarbabypico /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt16:19
fadumpt_yeah that's what I checked16:20
fadumpt_to make sure it matched16:20
fadumpt_i'm trying to directly login to mysql now (command line)16:20
solarbabymysql -u whatever -p whatever16:20
solarbabyor maybe its -pwhatever yeah i think theres no space for password16:21
fadumpt_it's mysql -u mythtv -p16:21
fadumpt_and then it asks for a password16:21
fadumpt_but I can't seem to connect with the now password or the originally assigned password :(16:21
solarbabyif you put -ppassword as such.. no space it should just work16:21
fadumpt_ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)16:22
fadumpt_that's what I get every time16:22
fadumpt_well that can't be good16:22
solarbabythat'll probably do it16:24
solarbabycourse I really wonder why it shouldn't be working in the first place16:24
solarbabyusually mythtv sets up all that stuff for you16:24
fadumpt_thanks for the link16:25
solarbabyI hope it helps16:25
fadumpt_i don't have a /usr/bin/mysqld :-/16:28
fadumpt_mysqld_multi and _safe....16:28
sslasheswhere is the file that calls mythfrontend.real?16:28
fadumpt_same thing?16:28
fadumpt_use multi?16:28
sslasheswhen using automatic login in mythbuntu16:28
sslashesi ask because i need a script run on login, and creating an .xsession, .config/openbox/autostart, or any other type of startup file did not work16:30
fadumpt_maybe not16:31
fadumpt_mysqld_multi didnt work, said no such thing as --skip-grant-tables16:32
solarbabyrc.local should be good for starting files at bootup/login16:32
fadumpt_Doesn't mythbuntu control centre take care of that for you?16:33
sslashessolarbaby: how can i use rc.local for *logon*, i was only aware of its use on boot?16:34
fadumpt_maybe gnome session manager?16:34
fadumpt_if you are using gnome...16:34
sslashesnope, as far as i can tell, the default for a desktopless mythbuntu install is now openbox16:34
sslashesbut i still have remnants of xfce from prior version of mythbuntu16:35
solarbabysslashes: its probably just boot.. im a newbie too16:35
sslashessolarbaby: ah, no worres =P16:35
fadumpt_I installed Gutsy and then installed the mythtv stuff...and the control centre gave the option to add the mythbuntu artwork to startup/login and the option to boot the frontend on logon16:35
sslashesfadumpt_: i am trying to execute a custom script of mine on logon that handles a few maintanance taks (like making the cursor a transparent box, therefor removing it from sign during application changes - from say mythfrontend to xine)16:37
sslashes*sign = sight16:37
sslashesits really bugging me that i cannot find the script that actually starts mythfrontend...16:37
superm1sslashes, that sounds like a neat idea16:38
superm1sslashes, mythfrontend is executed from ~/.config/autostart16:39
superm1which launches /usr/share/applications/mythtv.desktop16:39
superm1which launched /usr/bin/mythfrontend16:39
superm1which launched /usr/bin/mythfrontend.real16:39
superm1and sourced everything from ~/.mythtv/session16:39
superm1sslashes, really your best bet is to put your items in /etc/mythtv/session-settings16:41
sslashesug with a patch?16:42
sslashes^^ scratch that16:43
sslashessuperm1: thanks for the info - what is the normal method for adding features - submiting a bug with a patch?16:43
superm1sslashes, for now, make sure it works on your setup by adding it to that file16:43
superm1sslashes, and then you can write a spec for it16:43
superm1argh. silly mythbot16:43
sslashesheh, ok - thanks16:44
* superm1 throws a really heavy object at therethinker 16:44
superm1sslashes, the only problem i anticipate with such a feature is that what happens when you need the mouse?16:45
superm1say to modify settings outside myth?16:45
fadumpt_any ideas on what to run instead /usr/bin/mysqld (since it doesn't seem to exist in gutsy)16:45
superm1fadumpt_, /etc/init.d/mysql ?16:50
superm1that will handle it for you16:50
superm1and its in /usr/sbin16:50
sslashessuperm1: i assume it would only be enabled for the "no desktop" setup of mythbuntu16:51
fadumpt_oh, okay, stupid howto page ...16:51
superm1sslashes, yeah.  but there would have to be a very easy way to change it then.  especially since you can pull up the mcc from right inside mythtv16:51
superm1and need a mouse for that right now16:52
sslashesperhaps a daemon can stand by and wait for any mouse movement and enable/disable the cursor as nessissary16:52
sslashessimple perl script could do it16:52
solarbabysuperm1: Heya16:53
solarbabysuperm1: I think I may need your expertise again, heh..16:54
superm1sslashes, hm that sounds like something a lot of projects could take advantage of too16:54
sslashessuperm1: i'll look into it and jump back in here sometime later16:54
solarbabysuperm1: this really shouldn't be a tuffy but I think maybe I currupted my cronjob or I just dont know how to use it right16:54
superm1sslashes, okay cool sounds good16:54
superm1solarbaby, why?16:54
solarbabysuperm1:  I saved it once with pico with out using pico -e filename  but then i saved it again next time with the -e so I dont know what that rusults in..  anyways heres the actual crontab the bottom 2 are what I was trying to use to test to make sure crontab workshttp://paste-it.net/404416:59
superm1well you can't start X apps from a crontab17:00
superm1unless you mess with x authentication17:00
superm1also: /root/zap2xml/mythfilldatabase --file 1 7 ~/zap2xml/xmltv.xml should be /root/zap2xml/mythfilldatabase --file 1 7 /root/zap2xml/xmltv.xml17:00
superm1and also17:01
superm1you have too many redirections going on i think17:01
superm1you want to dump 2>&1 first17:01
superm1and then into a file17:01
solarbabyI just dont understand the cron world17:08
solarbabyit really confuses me17:08
solarbabyits as if every single article I read about doing a cron job doesn't work17:09
solarbabyI've read 517:10
solarbabysuperm1: i figured now that it wont log at least I could see the hard drive spinning if it started up.. but it didn't start up17:33
solarbabyMy crontabs are defective!17:36
solarbabyi can't explain it but they simply dont work17:37
fadumpt_mysql doesn't have access rights to the dir :(18:11
fadumpt_okay mysql in /var/lib/mysql is rwx by root, rx by users in the group, and rx by all18:15
MythbuntuGuest21Hello, new to mythtv+mythbuntu18:19
MythbuntuGuest21Thanks, I'm currently installing mythbuntu on another machine, currently as in 73% done, and I tried yesturday on a machine at work and was lost when it came to configuring MythTV, would you mind walking through the install?18:20
MythbuntuGuest21I have an ATI All-in-Wonder VE and it has a UHF port18:21
fadumpt_I'm not quite sure that's gonna work for you :(18:21
directhexabandon hope all ye who enter here. ATI hate you, would stomp on your puppy if you had one, certainly don't want you to use your AIW's tv in on anything but windows18:22
fadumpt_when I first decided "i'm gonna do this!" i had an old all in wonder at work...did some research and the answer "ATI no work"18:22
directhexfor your (hypothetical) puppy's sake, stop now. unless you hate puppies, in which case carry on18:22
MythbuntuGuest21I'm really more of a ferret person anyway18:23
fadumpt_i have a newer all in wonder that's useless becuase of that "issue" :(18:23
fadumpt_everytime you use an All In Wonder....Einstein kills a ferret18:23
directhexit'd take your ferrets, and prevent them from playing with anything shiny *ever*18:23
MythbuntuGuest21Does it just not work at all? lol I pretty much just want to record south park and family guy18:24
directhexit doesn't work at all. did you see the part about ATI hating you and stomping on puppies?18:24
MythbuntuGuest21Whats a good card to get?18:24
directhexwhere are you geographically?18:25
fadumpt_software card if all you want is for a few shows18:26
fadumpt_specially if you have a good system18:26
fadumpt_like over 1.?Ghz18:26
directhexand you were planning on getting a signal into your machine via terrestrial analog?18:26
fadumpt_and like over 512mb of ram18:26
MythbuntuGuest21i believe its 1.4 ghz 512 mb and if by terrestrial analog you mean cable then yes18:27
directhexanalog cable i'm out of my league, sorry18:27
MythbuntuGuest21mythtv cant work with cable tv?18:29
directhexit can, but i don't use analog or cable18:30
toorimaMythbuntuGuest21: u could maybe get by with a software card but I tried it with a 1.6ghz celeron and it was a little jerky, I now have a pvr150 for sd, works great, and a pchdtv5500 for hdtv, upgraded the machine so it could handle the hd tho18:30
toorimamythtv works very well with cable18:30
directhexyou'll need to ask someone with experience of americanese device selection. i just use dvb-t18:30
MythbuntuGuest21yea cox18:30
fadumpt_mythtv works fine with cable tv18:30
fadumpt_i used it with that at the other house18:30
fadumpt_with a pvr150 card (hardware)18:31
toorimai use cox cable in san diego, works very well with mythtv18:31
fadumpt_it was nice18:31
MythbuntuGuest21so if i go pick up a card from frys (sigh :(  i should get an nvida card?18:32
fadumpt_there is a mythtv wiki that shows good software cards to use18:32
fadumpt_especially if you are using a non-celeron style card18:32
MythbuntuGuest21yea i got an amd18:32
fadumpt_what are my permissions in /var/lib/mysql supposed to be18:33
directhexdrwxr-xr-x 5 mysql mysql 4096 2007-10-15 22:48 /var/lib/mysql18:34
directhexMythbuntuGuest21, for graphics, you're *always* better with nvidia than ati in linux. for tv-in, hauppauge is a generally good brand, with specific devices shown in assorted wikis18:35
toorimaif u can get a ati to work they can give better color tho, but nvidia is easier to set up18:37
toorimai never to it to work properly tho so got an nvidia18:37
MythbuntuGuest21i see18:37
fadumpt_okay so that's right18:38
fadumpt_why I get errors then :(18:38
fadumpt_it says "the error means mysqld does not have access to the directory"18:38
fadumpt_file name ./ibdata118:38
toorimals -l /var/lib/mysql18:39
toorimatotal 2050018:39
toorima-rw-r--r-- 1 mysql mysql        0 2007-10-20 13:37 debian-5.0.flag18:39
toorima-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 10485760 2007-10-20 22:41 ibdata118:39
toorima-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql  5242880 2007-10-20 22:43 ib_logfile018:39
toorima-rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql  5242880 2007-10-20 11:18 ib_logfile118:39
toorimadrwxr-xr-x 2 mysql mysql     4096 2007-10-20 13:37 mysql18:39
toorima-rw------- 1 mysql mysql        6 2007-10-20 11:25 mysql_upgrade_info18:39
toorimadrwx------ 2 mysql mysql     8192 2007-10-20 15:10 mythconverg18:39
fadumpt_yeah that looks like mine18:39
solarbabycron sucks ass18:44
solarbabyafter a few hours I still can't make it work18:44
fadumpt_yeah, cron is funny like that18:45
solarbabyit just doesn't make sense..  I just restarted the service maybe that'll help18:46
solarbabyI did all the research..  at least some of the entrys I made should have worked if cron was functioning I believe18:47
solarbabyyou'd figure after all these years that they would just make it work better18:47
solarbabythe whole cron business just gives me bad gass18:48
solarbabylook out for me, I've been fighting with cron18:49
toorimacool t-shirt18:55
toorimabut there are no colors or sizes18:55
fadumpt_solarbaby's cron woes made me think of the shirt18:56
solarbabycron should kiss my gassy ass18:57
fadumpt_I'm not supposed to get any errors when i run /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables -user=root right?18:57
solarbabydid you get errors?18:58
solarbabymaybe its -user'root'  but thats just a guess18:58
solarbabyerr -user='root'18:58
solarbabyor something..  I dunno follow the instructions on the web site and dont listen to this cron beaten old turd18:58
toorimatry -user=mythtv18:59
solarbabymaybe I should reinstall cron19:01
solarbabyoh i see now removing cron was a mistake19:04
toorimado u use cron manualy or crontab -e19:04
solarbabynow it took out all kinds of myth stuff19:05
solarbabycrap on that19:05
solarbabymyth was working awesome too19:05
solarbabyDo you want to continue [Y/n]? y19:07
solarbaby(Reading database ... 62141 files and directories currently installed.)19:07
solarbabyRemoving mythtv-backend-master ...19:07
solarbabyRemoving mythtv ...19:07
solarbabyRemoving mythtv-database ...19:07
solarbabyRemoving mythtv-backend ...19:07
solarbabyStopping MythTV server: mythbackend .19:07
solarbabyRemoving ubuntu-standard ...19:07
solarbabyRemoving samba ... * Stopping Samba daemons...                                                                 [ OK ]19:07
solarbabyRemoving logrotate ...19:07
solarbabynow im in serious trouble19:07
solarbabyI guess that little mistake is going to cause me to reinstall everything19:13
solarbabygood going gas bag19:13
toorimayeah doesn't look to good19:13
solarbabyyeah..  blah.. maybe i'll make the best out of it and upgrade my hard drive by 400 gigs19:14
solarbabythat'll make me feel better19:14
toorimawell if u have hd u need it19:14
solarbabyI originally installed with a 70 gig drive19:14
solarbabyso I guess I was under the recommended limit19:14
toorimawell for sd that is like 35 hours of tv so19:15
solarbabyI can format the windows computer now, and install my video card over there19:15
solarbabyyeah..  oh great.. now myth decided to record something hehe19:15
solarbabyI think the lesson that I learned is /etc/crontab doesn't do anything19:17
solarbabyand to deffinately uninstall cron when its time to format19:17
superm1solarbaby, you have been hand modifying /etc/crontab?19:18
superm1you need to do it with crontab -e19:18
superm1i thought19:18
solarbabyI did both19:19
solarbabyand none of them gave me results19:19
solarbabyand now i destoryed everything I think19:19
solarbabyunless I can figure out how to work cron, myth probably wont start up on its own, neither will samba19:19
superm1solarbaby, they both work from init scripts19:20
superm1how did you disable them in the first place19:21
solarbabyapt-get remove cron19:21
superm1but i mean mythbackend and samba19:21
superm1they're not starting up?19:21
solarbabyOh I saw during the removal of cron that those things were being uninstalled19:21
superm1and you kept going? :)19:23
solarbabyIm 2 hours frustrated with cron19:23
solarbabyit should just work19:23
solarbabyI read 5 manuals19:24
solarbabyit doesn't work19:24
solarbabyso now I'll have to spend another few hours reinstalling..  but I guess I wanted to reinstall anyways sometime19:24
superm1solarbaby, well if your going to reinstall, we're announcing final tomorrow19:25
superm1might as well use that image19:25
solarbabycan I access that image today?19:25
superm1solarbaby, yeah it's in place on at least one mirror right now19:26
solarbabygood deal19:26
solarbabyIm ready19:26
solarbabysuperm1: this would be a good time to exersize backing up a mysql database right?19:47
solarbabysuperm1: thats something that never worked for me before..  I dont have high hopes for it working this time but I might as well try19:48
Gumbysolarbaby, what are you needing cron for?21:28
tritiumsuperm1: I read some of the scrollback.  Is the documentation not part of the iso image?21:29
superm1tritium, it will be linked on mythbuntu.org21:29
superm1on the front page there will be an "Installation Manual"21:29
tritiumsuperm1: okay.  I'm back on it now.21:29
aidansdoes anybody fancy pointing out the really obvious place I'm going wrong? I've got TVFormat set to PAL-I and TVStandard set to Video but I'm still getting black and white output from my ATI card's svideo. :/21:34
directhexdid you see my comments on how ati hate you personally and stomp on puppies?21:37
aidansno. I knew buying an ATI card this time around on account of them opening the specs was premature21:38
aidansI thought the hate had been forgiven and all that nastiness was in the past21:38
directhexthe puppies continue to be stomped on21:45
directhexi don't hate ATI. i love puppies21:46
Gumbyaidans, are you using svid to composite?21:50
aidansGumby: no, svideo to svideo A/V AMP to SCART convertor21:51
aidansGumby: basically the same setup worked with the old myth box which had an nvidia card21:51
Gumbyaidans, have you installed the ati proprietary drivers?21:52
aidansGumby: yep21:52
Gumbyno idea, carry on.  hehe21:52
aidanswell poo21:52
GumbyI just got a TV with vga inputs. It makes my life much easier21:53
aidansTV upgrade is going to be HDMI so I'll just use the DVI output21:53
aidansthere isn't anything like aticonfig --make-it-work-secret-command that i need to run?21:55
Gumbyhrm, interesting. all of a sudden I cant watch livetv.  the box totally locks up22:17
* Gumby shoots himself in the head22:24
* directhex declares ps3 linux to be lame22:29
TheShadowAlright I can't seem to get VNC Server to work on my mythbox. When I try to connect with xvnc4viewer to an vnc4server I get "Connection refused (111)"23:30
directhexmythbuntu provides a vnc server?23:31
TheShadowdirecthex: it has a default vnc installation :P23:31
directhex"connection refused" implies no actual running server23:32
TheShadowkinda odd since I see it running >_<23:33
directhexthat, in itself, is odd23:34
toorimahave you tried sudo /etc.init.d/gdm restart after you activated vnc?23:38
TheShadowtoorima: yea I've even done a complete restart23:38
TheShadowI can ssh to the machine so I know its not a networking issue23:39
toorimahmm check and see if you have any vnc stuff in your xorg.conf23:39
TheShadowtoorima: what am i looking for?23:39
* directhex wonders if his vnc instructions for regular ubuntu would be of any help, decides not23:39
toorimashould be 3 lines of vnc stuff in the screen section23:39
TheShadowtoorima: I don't see anything23:40
toorimahmm you should have this23:41
toorima    Option         "SecurityTypes" "VncAuth"23:41
toorima    Option         "UserPasswdVerifier" "VncAuth"23:41
toorima    Option         "PasswordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd"23:41
toorimain your screen section23:41
=== Tari_ is now known as Tari
TheShadowalright while I do a reboot where do I go to reconfigure the remove to be the happauge 350 remote?23:48
TheShadowand sorry normally I would be digging through the website but its down for maintenance23:49
tgm4883should be back up now23:49
tgm4883and you would reconfigure that in MCC23:50
TheShadowtgm4883: MCC?23:50
tgm4883stupid bot23:51
tgm4883therethinker, bot's dead23:51
directhexno he's not23:51
TheShadowah I see... I would love to use that...23:51
directhexhe's pining for the fjords23:51
TheShadowexcept my tv kinda sucks23:51
TheShadowwhich is why I'm trying to get vnc working23:51
TheShadowcause I can't read that small text23:51
tgm4883TheShadow, have you thought about adjusting your dpi?23:52
TheShadowtgm4883: I'm willing to try anything setting up video cards has been the toughest part of learning linux for me. I still need to install the nVidia drivers :P23:52
MythbuntuGuest20I am trying to enable the vnc remote connection but when i enable it and enter in the password, hit apply, it installs but it says that i cannot connect23:56
TheShadowat least I'm not the only one >_<23:57
tgm4883TheShadow, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Display_Size23:57
=== MythbuntuGuest20 is now known as dattas
dattasso is this a know issue?23:58
dattasi installed it with the release canidate23:59

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