[00:00] <wii> and u dont have the slytiss idea where do i have to go?
[00:00] <jrib> Pici: genetics was a bot?
[00:00] <stdin> jrib: google search bot
[00:00] <Pici> jrib: it responded when someone did !google phrase
[00:01] <jdong> wii: no. we do not. no. no. negative. no clue.
[00:01] <stdin> jrib: someone did !google ...., and it replied
[00:01] <jrib> ah
[00:01] <wii> ok
[00:01] <wii> tanks anyway
[00:02] <jdong> wii: if you do not need anything more from us, it's in your best interest to part this channel
[00:02] <jrib> had to be a kde user
[00:02] <Pici> Well, it was $10 if he came back in a week, how much for only 10 minutes?
[00:02] <stdin> jrib: oi :p
[00:02] <jdong> anyone else get the feeling sometime that they're talking to bots with a reiserfs backend?
[00:03] <jdong> Pici: I'd be bankrupt :)
[00:03]  * jdong sets /trigger add -all -masks "wii*!*@AMari*.fr" -command 'say $N: no'
[00:03] <arinomi> jrib, could you test me?
[00:04] <stdin> "<SmoothOp> http://justtohavesexwithothermen.ytmnd.com/" in #ubuntu
[00:04] <Pici> failed.
[00:04] <Pici> stdin: I saw
[00:04] <jrib> ops 4, users 0 today
[00:04] <stdin> Pici: yes, but i didn't see that you saw :p
[00:04] <jdong> stdin: do I dare click on that?
[00:04] <stdin> jdong: click what you want ;)
[00:05]  * jdong braces
[00:05] <jdong> curiousity gets the best of me
[00:05] <jdong> stdin: well that was a huge letdown.
[00:05] <stdin> what's there?
[00:06] <jdong> stdin: larry craig CNN story screencap
[00:06] <jdong> stdin: with the news ticker at the bottom forming an innuendo with the main story's caption
[00:06] <Tm_T> stdin: #k is yours, me and my pda off ->
[00:06] <jdong> I was expecting some sort of homoerotica.
[00:07] <stdin> Tm_T: noo, it's getting late and I don't have the patience 
[00:07] <mc44> jdong: sadly disappointed
[00:08] <stdin> Tm_T: i was tempted to kick that john117 guy for being unable to read... (only tempted)
[00:08] <jdong> mc44: meh I've had worse letdowns ;-)
[00:09] <jdong> ' open terminal, type "sudo nautilus" '
[00:09] <jdong> I'm melting.... make it stop.....
[00:11] <jdong> ubuntu_: no
[00:12] <ubuntu_> sorry i; try to get to co;piw give ;e a link i cant find the right touch
[00:12] <jdong> staff? please?
[00:14] <ubuntu_> isnt it compiz-fussion
[00:15] <jdong> we don't know. we have no idea.
[00:15] <nalioth> ubuntu_: join #ubuntu-effects
[00:15] <stdin> this channel has nothing to do with compiz or compiz-fusion in any way shape or form
[00:16] <ubuntu_> i know i just try to get to co;piw on live cd to talk to the op the live cd bring ;e here
[00:17] <stdin> then type "/part"
[00:17]  * Pici is watching in #compiz-fusion
[00:18]  * jdong hops in, too
[00:18] <Pici> jdong: you missed that some other guy just ! opsed when wii asked for ops.
[00:18] <jdong> Pici: haha
[00:18] <jdong> 19:18 < crdlb> ubuntu_, you're not getting unbanned
[00:19] <jdong> he must be using my trigger script too ;-)
[00:21] <stdin> your trigger script was too slow then
[00:22] <jdong> grr didn't match by his hostname. one sec :)
[00:23] <jdong> there.
[00:26] <Amaranth> @btlogin
[00:26] <Pici> hehe, nice quit message
[00:26] <jdong> Amaranth: don't tell me you're searchign up ubuntu_ in the bantracker?
[00:26] <Amaranth> jdong: Can't remember him
[00:26] <jdong> Amaranth: wii
[00:26] <Pici> Amaranth: = wii
[00:26] <Amaranth> I thought so
[00:27] <Amaranth> Then I thought it might have been that winchester guy
[00:27] <stdin> *!*@AMarigot*.wanado.fr = wii
[00:27] <jdong> stdin: no
[00:27] <jdong> wii: no
[00:27] <Amaranth> wii: Go away.
[00:27] <stdin> jdong: 99.9%
[00:28] <nalioth> wii: can we help you?
[00:28] <wii> Amaranth: just give me a reson why i cant re-enter compiz?
[00:29] <Amaranth> nalioth: Ooh we can send people there?
[00:29] <jdong> is it just an empty channel?
[00:29] <Pici> or is it one of those special channels?
[00:30] <jdong> Pici: lol I'm scared to join channels with those kind of names :D
[00:30] <Pici> jdong: me too
[00:30] <Pici> the topic looks benign though
[00:31] <jdong> "trolls: come in here for free candy!"
[00:49] <trollboy> Hi, test me please
[00:54] <LjL> trollboy: you can join, thank you
[00:55] <trollboy> Danke
[01:35] <Seeker`> Is ubotu lagging again?
[01:36] <stdin> !lag
[01:36] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[01:36] <stdin> seems ok
[01:37] <Seeker`> it took 4 seconds to answer LjL's !language in #ubuntu
[01:37] <LjL> 4 seconds is quite normal if someone else was using it too
[01:37] <LjL> keep in mind it also churns out bug reports to the dev channels
[01:38]  * Seeker` wonders if he should go back to lurking a bit, so that he doesn't ask quite so many "silly" questions
[01:51] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:00] <ubotu> DaSkreech called the ops in #kubuntu
[02:06] <LjL> stdin: or rather, he was, since i pissed him off it seems and he claims he won't rejoin
[02:07] <stdin> LjL: oh? well if he's in a mood I'll leave him to it
[02:07] <LjL> stdin: yeah. i've been an asshole to daskreech to be honest
[02:07] <LjL> but intellikey was just spamming
[02:09] <LjL> AT0M1CB0MB3R smells like trouble to me
[02:09] <stdin> yeah, it may have been a bug in his client (as has happened before), but if he can't be grown-up about it...
[02:10] <LjL> stdin: eh? it was intelikey having the auto-repeat bug?
[02:10] <stdin> something like that, but Agent_Bob is normally his GUI user, so I'm just guessing
[02:11] <stdin> but I'm not going to delve in to it for now
[02:11] <LjL> uhm well i am though
[02:12] <stdin> didn't say you couldn't ;) I'm just sitting here with my hot coco
[02:15] <LjL> [03:13:10] <Agent_bob> no big deal.   don't worry about it.
[02:15] <LjL> [03:14:24] <Agent_bob> i'm dropping my two nicks as we speak.   it's been nice.  but i need to move on.    shalom.
[02:15] <stdin> hmm
[02:17] <LjL> well i'm sorry but really, his problem, he spammed, and spamming to prove a point to another spammer is arguably the wrost form of spamming
[02:18] <LjL> so my kick was warranted. if he's had a bad day, i'm sorry but.
[02:18] <stdin> yeah, I'm not trying to defend him. that's why I didn't want to get involved
[02:18] <stdin> it's a shame he decided to be like that, was a good guy
[02:19] <LjL> besides, my kick to daskreech was admittedly *not* warranted, and yet he didn't react like that
[02:19] <stdin> but it's his problem in the end, so be it
[03:28] <jdong> 22:27 -!- Delvien [n=dm@cpe-24-160-182-28.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined  #ubuntuforums
[03:28] <jdong> why does this hostmask ring a bell from yesterday?
[03:29] <jdong> nvm, that was adriyel [n=adriyel@cpe-24-210-80-52.columbus.res.rr.com] 
[03:45] <`eric-> can you test 'me'
[03:45] <`eric-> :P
[03:49] <`eric-> please?
[03:56] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, levmatta said: ubotu: their is no  /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Defaul in Gusty
[04:00] <`eric-> can an op please allow me back in #ubuntu i've changed my port
[04:02] <`eric-> anyone?
[04:02] <`eric-> :(
[04:06] <`eric-> por favor?
[04:16] <`eric-> can an op please allow me back in #ubuntu i've changed my port
[04:17] <`eric-> ..?
[04:26] <nzk> What day was I banned from -offtopic by Seveas?
[04:31] <`eric-> pls test my connection so i can join #ubuntu
[04:34] <jdong> trollboy: hi, anything futher you need from us? I understand you've already been tested and passed
[04:34] <jdong> (this channel has a no-idlers policy)
[04:57] <`eric-> pls test my connection so i can join #ubuntu
[04:57] <nzk> "Please"
[04:57] <nzk> "I"
[04:57] <nzk> Add a period as well.
[04:57] <nalioth> nzk: can we help you?
[04:58] <nzk> What day was I banned from -offtopic?
[04:58] <nalioth> i have no idea.
[04:58] <nalioth> `eric-: have you followed the URL in #ubuntu-read-topic ?
[04:58] <nzk> But you're an op...
[04:58] <`eric-> nalioth: yes. I've changed my port and eveyrthing.
[04:58] <`eric-> I'm connected via 8001 now.
[04:59] <nalioth> `eric-: you are free to return to #ubuntu now, and thanks for your patience  :)
[05:00] <`eric-> nalioth: Thank You Sir :)
[05:01] <`eric-> It's still sending me to #ubuntu-read-topic when I type /join #ubuntu ..?
[05:02] <nalioth> hmm, i hate multiple bans
[05:03] <`eric-> Did it ban me every time I tried to join? Cause if so, it's a lot. :(
[05:03] <nzk> `eric-: You think you have a lot of bans?
[05:04] <ubotu> scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:05] <Madpilot> dcc attempt in #u - already k-lined
[05:10] <r0b-> why cant i join #ubuntu
[05:10] <`eric-> =P
[05:10] <nalioth> nzk: is there something we can help you with?
[05:10] <`eric-> join the club.
[05:11] <r0b-> is it cuz i have all my ports open?
[05:11] <r0b-> test my IP :p
[05:11] <nzk> nalioth: I just told you...
[05:11] <nzk> Can I be unbanned?
[05:12] <Madpilot> r0b-, `eric- - you both have router troubles - have you read the topic in #ubuntu-read-topic and fixed your irc clients?
[05:12] <`eric-> Madpilot: I've changed my port.
[05:12] <nalioth> Madpilot: `eric- is good to go, but there are other problems now with his ban
[05:13] <nalioth> it seems someone issues a malformed hostmask for his ban, and it's not coming off
[05:13] <nalioth> i'm trying to get it fixed now
[05:13] <`eric-> Thanks.
[05:13] <Madpilot> `eric-, try #ubuntu now
[05:13] <`eric-> It's working! Thanks guys.
[05:14] <r0b-> i fixed my ports
[05:14] <nalioth> Madpilot: got PM ?
[05:14] <rob> got milk?
[05:15] <Madpilot> nalioth, do now. need to get xchat to beep at me when I get pm
[05:15] <Madpilot> nalioth, want to test r0b- or shall I?
[05:15] <jdong> Lesson #40: Never try to pluralize PM.
[05:15] <rob> Madpilot, Settings - Preferences - Chatting > Alerts
[05:16] <rob> Madpilot, if you install libnotify, it will also do a popup balloon for various events too
[05:16] <`eric-> Thanks again for the help. Good night.
[05:17] <r0b-> did i fail?
[05:17] <Madpilot> r0b-, join #madpilot, please - can't test d c c here
[05:18] <nalioth> r0b-: you can join #ubuntu now and thanks for your patience
[05:18] <r0b-> thanks :)
[05:37] <Dyus> can someone help me, i was sent to the read topic chan wile i was afk, i follwed the instructions on the page and now im here
[05:38] <jdong> I think we need to do a bit of idler-prodding in here....
[05:39] <Dyus> anyone?
[05:39] <jdong> Dyus: please wait patiently, ops drift in and out and read the scrollback
[05:41] <nalioth> Dyus: you can join #ubuntu now, and thanks for your patience
[05:41] <Dyus> cool, thanks
[05:43] <jdong> haha, ow.
[05:44] <nalioth> anyone i miss, please speak up
[05:44]  * jdong points to Vorian and then ducks
[05:45] <jdong> :)
[05:46] <nalioth> jdong: did you say something?
[05:46] <jdong> no sir.
[05:47] <nalioth> i'm not a sir, i work for a living
[05:47] <jdong> but don't we all?
[05:56] <bo2> can i be tested?
[05:57] <nalioth> bo2: have you followed the instructions in the URL ?
[05:57] <bo2> yes
[05:57] <bo2> i changed my connctng port to 8001
[05:58] <nalioth> ok, buckle up  :)
[05:58] <bo2> errm?
[05:58] <bo2> buckle up for what
[05:59] <nalioth> bo2: the test  :)
[05:59] <jdong> bo2: hmm try.wow.com... you're from my neck of the woods
[05:59] <nalioth> you passed and can rejoin #ubuntu now.  Thanks for you patience  :)
[05:59] <bo2> thanks 
[05:59] <bo2> =]
[05:59] <bo2> errm
[06:00] <nalioth>    /ctcp bo2 123 BLAH THISISNOTACARNIVALRIDE
[06:00] <jdong> is that what routers jump all over??
[06:00] <nalioth> nope
[06:00] <nalioth> i've obfuscated it
[06:01] <jdong> ah
[06:01] <nalioth> why would i want to DDOS folks ?
[06:09] <ubotu> KevinO called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:10] <jdong> lots of fireworks today, huh :-/
[06:19]  * rob adds malformed DCCs to the checker
[09:04] <DShepherd>  does anyone else thing it would be helpful to add a factoid to ubotu about the new appearance menu and whats located there? There seems to be a number of questions just related to find that appearance option much less the stuff under it
[11:45] <Mez> any irc ocuncil ehre?
[11:47] <Seveas> Mez, yes
[11:48] <Mez> regarddfing new channel naming - special channels to be passed through IRC council - you happy to approve -tribalwars if it hasnt been already? 
[11:49] <Seveas> sure, why not :)
[11:49] <Seveas> and pricechild is in the access list, so I assume he agrees ;)
[11:50] <Mez> is pricechild council?
[12:15] <elkbuntu> tribalwars?
[12:31] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, shooood said: ubotu plz all i want is some one how tell me how to install any program that i have its source
[12:34] <shooood> hi all
[13:13] <Mez> elkbuntu, yeah, tis a game
[14:02] <ThunderStruck> anyone else using xchat and see a red line across window?
[14:02] <Vorian> yes
[14:02] <ThunderStruck> so its nomral
[14:02] <ThunderStruck> yay :(
[14:03] <Vorian> ThunderStruck, it marks the last point where you were on a channel
[14:03] <ThunderStruck> ah ok
[14:04] <Vorian> although now that I'm looking through some channels, I have no redline ...
[14:05] <ThunderStruck> i didnt get one in here until after i said ah ok
[14:06] <Seeker`> ThunderStruck: the red lines are after you!
[14:06] <Vorian> ctrl+m resets the marker line
[14:06] <ThunderStruck> yes
[14:07] <ThunderStruck> maybe time between comments has something to do with it?
[14:08] <Vorian> \o/
[14:09] <Vorian> red line is back
[14:09] <Vorian> ;)
[14:09]  * ThunderStruck would be much happier if i can figure out scripting on irssi+win-xp
[14:09] <Seeker`> ThunderStruck: what sort of scripting?
[14:09] <ThunderStruck> ah next time bring laptop with me
[14:10] <ThunderStruck> Seeker`, the irssi scripts dont like to work in irssi in windows even from the scripts dir
[14:10] <Seeker`> :S
[14:10] <Seeker`> thats bad
[14:10] <ThunderStruck> there is no how to either outside of linux irssi
[14:10] <ThunderStruck> cant be missing perl support or it wouldnt run
[14:20]  * ThunderStruck really neglected that site :( lastest news is edgy is released :(
[14:27] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, LjL-Temp said: !adeptcrash is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:27] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, LjL-Temp said: !apt-fix is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:27] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, LjL-Temp said: !adeptfix is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:27] <ThunderStruck> lol
[14:27] <LjL-Temp> sorry =)
[14:28] <Jucato> !adeptfix is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:28] <ubotu> But adeptfix already means something else!
[14:28] <ompaul> !adeptfix
[14:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:28] <ThunderStruck> try other way
[14:28] <Jucato> !apt-fix is <alias> adept crash fix
[14:28] <ubotu> But apt-fix already means something else!
[14:28] <LjL-Temp> !-adept crash fix
[14:28] <ubotu> adept crash fix aliases: adeptcrashfix, adeptfix, adept fix, adept fix crash, dpkg fix crash, dpkg crash fix, adept unlock, aptfix, fix adept, fixadept, adeptcrash, apt-fix - added by uniq on 2006-06-23 19:48:04
[14:28] <Jucato> hehe :)
[14:28] <LjL-Temp> see, this factoid needs a lot of love
[14:28] <ThunderStruck> its already there
[14:28] <LjL-Temp> no matter how many aliases you give it, people get it wrong :P
[14:28] <Jucato> I think we've exhausted all possible combinations :)
[14:29] <ompaul> call it one thing and advertise that
[14:29] <ompaul> adeptfix
[14:29]  * ompaul wonders why this is not obvious
[14:29] <ThunderStruck> personally i would make it more general since it works for dpkg not just adept
[14:30] <LjL-Temp> ompaul: because the original name was adept crash fix, so some people got used to it, but it's certainly a non-optimal way for a factoid that gets called often.
[14:30] <LjL-Temp> besides, it should really be changed, it's not adept-only
[14:30] <ThunderStruck> its not adept at all
[14:30] <ompaul> well what condition does it sort out@
[14:30] <ThunderStruck> ompaul, lock on dpkg
[14:31] <LjL-Temp> !aptlock is <reply> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:31] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, LjL-Temp said: !aptlock is <reply> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:31] <ompaul> so then dpkglock
[14:31] <LjL-Temp> pf
[14:31] <Jucato> but on Kubuntu, it's usually caused by Adept crashing :)
[14:31] <LjL-Temp> @login
[14:31] <Jucato> LjL-Temp: isn't it %login ?
[14:31] <Jucato> or both work?
[14:31] <LjL-Temp> Jucato: both should work
[14:31] <ompaul>  @    btlogin
[14:31] <ompaul> works 
[14:31] <ThunderStruck> Jucato, yes thats due to bad UI design though ;) it happens on synaptic as well
[14:32] <Jucato> more on adept I bet. :)
[14:32] <LjL> aliasing everything to aptlock - try using that one
[14:32] <ThunderStruck> Jucato, ofcourse
[14:32] <ThunderStruck> @whoami
[14:32] <ubotu> I don't recognize you.
[14:32] <ThunderStruck> ah it does work
[14:33] <ThunderStruck> im wearing my cloak and you still dont know me
[14:34] <ThunderStruck> doesnt ubotu use cloak for editors?
[14:35] <LjL> ThunderStruck: yes and no, you still need to login from time to time
[14:36] <LjL> !-aptlock
[14:36] <ubotu> aptlock aliases: adept crash fix, adeptcrashfix, adeptfix, adept fix, adept fix crash, dpkg fix crash, dpkg crash fix, adept unlock, aptfix, fix adept, fixadept, adeptcrash, apt-fix - added by LjL on 2007-10-21 15:31:48
[14:44] <Tm_T> aaaah, real keyboard <3
[16:04] <Tm_T> LjL: hum, I cant speak in #ubuntu+1 ;(
[16:05] <LjL> Tm_T: it's +m, you need to get yourself opped
[16:05] <Tm_T> or voiced, I know
[16:06] <LjL> Tm_T: need that voice?
[16:06] <Tm_T> not really currently
[16:08] <LjL> i would like to set +s so that people stop asking "why is there 100 people in there and i can't join", but it's mlocked
[16:09] <Tm_T> ya
[16:22] <Seveas> LjL, you can un-mlock it
[16:36] <LjL> Seveas: by logging in as ubuntuirccouncil? i tried that before but i must be missing something... even though it's the channel contact, chanserv still refuses to treat it as an user with high access level
[16:36] <Seveas> as that user: /cs identify #ubuntu+1
[16:37] <LjL> oh
[16:37]  * Tm_T hides
[16:38] <LjL> Seveas: i'm also joining chanserv into -effects then
[16:39] <LjL> ah no dbo is the contact there
[16:39] <Seveas> (guard doesn't help against channel emptiness)
[16:39] <Seveas> you need a staffer to set +Pif #compiz-fusion (+P is staff-only)
[16:40] <LjL> Seveas: uhm, i think you're wrong... i have ##metabot forwarded to #metabot, and it stays forwarded even if empty, with chanserv guard on
[16:40] <Seveas> then that changed since I last tried :)
[16:40] <tomaw> chanserv won't rejoin empty channels
[16:41] <tomaw> so if services are restarted then the forward won't function for the first joiner.
[16:41] <LjL> Seveas: it works
[16:41] <LjL> tomaw: i see
[16:41] <Seveas> -ChanServ- Toggled ChanGuard for channel #ubuntu-effects [ON]
[16:41] <Seveas> -ChanServ- Now enforcing modes [+sntcif #compiz-fusion] for #ubuntu-effects
[16:41] <LjL> Seveas: yes i saw, i was in there
[16:41] <Seveas> ok :)
[16:46] <LjL> i'll leave ubotwo in anyway to try to get around the first-joiner thing
[17:56] <wolferine> is there no #ubuntu-effects channel anymore ?
[17:57] <Pici> wolferine: no, we've joined up with the #compiz-fusion people, you can join there for support
[17:58] <wolferine> they feel my question is out of their range
[17:58] <wolferine> is that correct Amaranth ?
[17:58] <Amaranth> wolferine: Yes but it's not compiz
[17:59] <Amaranth> Your question wouldn't be valid for the old #ubuntu-effects either
[17:59] <Amaranth> It was only compiz/beryl stuff
[17:59] <wolferine> everyone else is asking xorg.conf related questions in the channel
[17:59] <Pici> wolferine: Your question is perfectly on-topic for #ubuntu
[17:59] <Amaranth> wolferine: Your question is about an Ubuntu-specific program
[17:59] <wolferine> I dont see you 'explaining' the channel to them, nor kicking them ?
[17:59] <Amaranth> The other guy's question is related to getting  compiz working
[18:00] <wolferine> my question is not about a 'Ubuntu-specific program'
[18:00] <Amaranth> Yes it is
[18:00] <Amaranth> displayconfig-gtk is only in ubuntu
[18:00] <wolferine> no, its about seeting up the display correctly
[18:00] <wolferine> ie. xorg
[18:00] <Amaranth> "I love the new interface for setting up the display"
[18:00] <Amaranth> Either way
[18:01] <Amaranth> This is in no way related to Ubuntu so this isn't the right channel for such a dispute either
[18:01] <Amaranth> #compiz-fusion is not an Ubuntu run channel
[18:01] <wolferine> I complemented on the new interface, but the question is not specific to that, "but can I do this with it, or I have a bug in using it, etc.."
[18:01] <wolferine> fine, where do you want to discuss it?
[18:01] <Amaranth> No where
[18:01] <Amaranth> I don't know the answer to your question anyway :p
[18:02] <wolferine> then why waste both our time?
[18:02] <Amaranth> Use nvidia-settings
[18:02] <Amaranth> If you're not using nvidia you can't use compiz with that screen resolution anyway so it's definitely not a compiz question
[18:02] <Amaranth> wolferine: Because the ops there are complaining about everyone asking for help with Ubuntu
[18:02] <wolferine> why are you 'attempting' to 'help' me ?
[18:03] <Amaranth> So we're rather strict
[18:03] <wolferine> well, someone set the forward from #ubuntu-effects to your channel
[18:03] <wolferine> I have nothing to do with that
[18:03] <wolferine> maybe you should let them know your getting 'offtopic' traffic
[18:03] <Amaranth> It does mean you need to follow the rules of the channel
[18:04] <Amaranth> And they know
[18:04] <wolferine> well, if #ubuntu-effects is redirected there, then why would I not ask a question I would ask in #ubuntu-effects ?
[18:04] <Amaranth> Your question wouldn't be valid for the old #ubuntu-effects either, that was only for compiz and beryl help
[18:05] <Amaranth> Well, and awn, kiba dock, etc but those are alright in #compiz-fusion too
[18:05] <wolferine> your obviously having a hard time with understand this whole situation
[18:05] <wolferine> and not willing to help
[18:05] <Amaranth> I don't think I am
[18:05] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[18:40] <ompaul> omg noooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss it is PriceChild 
[18:40] <ompaul> dum dee dum
[18:40] <PriceChild> Woooo back from Climbing... didn't have to go to A&E this time :D
[18:40] <PriceChild> la la la
[18:41] <ompaul> hahah
[18:41]  * ompaul uses a lart on PriceChild's head causing a visit to A&E - habit forming that is
[18:42] <Seeker`> PriceChild: did you have to last time?
[18:42] <PriceChild> Seeker`, mhmmm :D Someone dropped me as I attempted a dyno 8-)
[18:43] <PriceChild> Seeker`, The soc president didn't like after that so I just didn't go anymore that year.
[18:43] <PriceChild> s/like/like me/
[18:53] <ompaul> is the word "crap" currently acceptable in #ubuntu?
[18:54] <PriceChild> warn the user i'd say
[18:54] <ompaul> lost it been used 3 tjimes in the last few mins
[18:57] <Gary> wooo I'm in the suite at the hotel
[18:57] <Gary> it's nice
[18:57] <ompaul> Gary, that's what you say
[18:58] <Gary> t'is true, it has a bubble bath :p
[18:59] <ompaul> Gary,                                          r i g h t
[18:59] <ompaul> Gary, l e f t
[18:59] <ompaul> Gary,                      gap
[19:00] <Gary> spammer :p
[19:00] <ompaul> Gary, hmm
[19:00] <Seveas> ompaul, crazy...
[19:00] <ompaul> that's more like it
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[19:01] <ompaul> okay my two hour prepared multi meal is just about to be declared cooked I better set the table (it will feed me for several days
[19:01] <Gary> my dinner is on the way up, nice haddock starter, steak and veg, cheesecake desert :-)
[19:02] <Gary> the fillet steaks are huge here too :-)
[19:02]  * jussi01 drools
[19:02] <Tm_T> my dinner, humm, is still in crocery
[19:06] <Gary> still where?
[19:07] <jussi01> grocery store...
[19:08] <Pici> or crockery?
[19:22] <ompaul> very very nice
[19:22]  * ompaul votes for grocery
[19:36] <ubotu> magnetron called the ops in #ubuntu
[19:37] <jussi01> hmmm, anyone know when ubuntu+1 opens again?
[19:38] <jdong> heh I guess we'll get an influx of #ubuntu-read-topics soon
[19:38] <mc44> jussi01: when hardy opens :)
[19:38] <jussi01> mc44: and when is that?
[19:39] <jdong> when the flood gates open for the hardy heron
[19:39] <jdong> god this release is gonna have such awful innuendos :)
[19:39] <mc44> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule jussi01
[19:39]  * jussi01 hugs jdong and thanks him for the oh so useful info
[19:39] <jdong> jussi01: you know I never miss the opportunity for a tasteless joke :)
[19:40] <jussi01> jdong: :P
[19:40] <jussi01> mc44: great. 4 days :)
[19:41] <mc44> well toolchain doesn't neccessarily mean it's open
[19:47] <Pici> I suspect after UDS
[20:32] <ubotu> [[Charlie]] called the ops in #ubuntu
[20:36] <ompaul> !botsnack
[20:36] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[20:36] <mc44> ompaul: I'm not sure it is trademarked
[20:37] <Seveas> it's not
[20:37] <ompaul> ahh oikay 
[20:37] <ompaul> but .. 
[20:38] <ompaul> they could lay claim to it at this stage :)
[20:38] <ompaul> even if someone else reged
[20:39] <Pici> !ping
[20:39] <ubotu> pong
[20:55] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !ubuntuforums is <alias> forums
[20:55] <Seveas> boo
[20:55] <MenZa> I feel so violated.
[20:55] <Seveas> !ubuntuforums is <alias> forums
[20:55] <ubotu> But ubuntuforums already means something else!
[20:55] <Seveas> !-ubuntuforums
[20:55] <ubotu> ubuntuforums is <alias> forums - added by PriceChild on 2007-10-21 21:55:15
[20:55] <Seveas> heh
[20:55] <ompaul> in soviet russia users remove ops
[20:55] <PriceChild> *cheers*
[20:55] <MenZa> nalioth, are you around?
[20:56] <Seveas> in soviet ubuntu, human beings are for linux
[20:56] <PriceChild> There's a lot of joins... and Seveas I removed that Vista|... guy
[20:56] <PriceChild> "do you know what gh3y means"
[20:57] <nalioth> MenZa: usually
[20:59] <ompaul> in soviet linux humans are ubuntu
[20:59]  * ompaul coughs
[21:15] <ompaul> in soviet russia never mention Seveas 
[21:15]  * ompaul runs
[21:26] <PriceChild> Hey the openweek starts tomorrow doesn't it.
[21:27] <PriceChild> @now
[21:27] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 21 2007, 20:27:17 - Next meeting: Server Team in 1 day
[21:32] <PriceChild> Hey kamesh, how can I help?
[21:33] <kamesh> HI all.. I am banned from #ubuntu.. I have pasted just 3 lines of data..please un ban me
[21:33] <PriceChild> Seveas, *ping*
[21:33] <Seveas> pang
[21:33] <PriceChild> *looks up*
[21:33] <Seveas> unbanned, please don't do it again
[21:33] <kamesh> I have learnt my lesson.. Please unban meeeee
[21:34] <kamesh> its was just 3 lines,..
[21:34] <kamesh> :-)(
[21:34] <LjL> that almost begs for reinstating the ban :)
[21:34] <kamesh> any way thanks
[21:34] <nalioth> joejaxx: hi
[21:34] <Pici> kamesh: you're unbanned.
[21:34] <kamesh> thankks
[21:34] <stdin> please use pastebin from now on
[21:34] <ompaul> kamesh, 2 lines max or bye bye
[21:34] <ompaul> kamesh, have you any other business here?
[21:34] <Seveas> ompaul, in your case it's bye bye anyway ;)
[21:35] <kamesh> can i ask any question in ehere
[21:35] <ompaul> kamesh, not a support one
[21:35] <PriceChild> kamesh, /topic
[21:35] <kamesh> thanks..pricechild..
[21:36]  * ompaul pours a nice hot cup of tea for seveas
[21:37] <Seveas> cold glass of beer
[21:39] <ompaul> peppermint tea?
[21:39] <Pici> glass?
[21:39]  * ompaul creates a guinness for Seveas 
[21:39] <Seveas> guiness
[21:39] <Seveas> guinness!!!
[21:39] <Seveas> guinness!!!!!
[21:39] <nalioth> peppermint guiness?
[21:39]  * nalioth runs
[21:40] <Seveas> blasphemy
[21:40] <Seveas> I'm gonna get me a beer though
[21:41] <LjL> i'd rather have the tea, beer with 6C... no thanks
[21:42] <PriceChild> Strawberry Milkshake for me :P
[21:42] <LjL> ugh
[21:42] <Pici> yuck
[21:42]  * LjL 's stomach suddenly stopped working after hearing that
[21:43] <PriceChild> :'(
[21:43] <Seveas> proper strawberry smoothie
[21:43] <Seveas> strawberries, yoghurt, mint
[21:43] <PriceChild> good too
[21:43] <Seveas> blender
[21:43] <ompaul> I just was handed a "I-dog wold penguin" 
[21:43] <LjL> Seveas: and beer?
[21:43] <ompaul> s/wold/world
[21:43] <Seveas> LjL, neh
[21:44] <Seveas> beer is for now, smoothies for when thinking healthy
[21:44] <LjL> beer's not healthy=
[21:44] <PriceChild> but smoothies are sooo good
[21:44] <Seveas> indeed
[21:44] <Seveas> and indeed
[21:44] <Seveas> but it's beertime now
[21:44] <Seveas> and cheese with mustard
[21:45] <LjL> ugh now *that* sounds... dutch
[21:45] <Seveas> heh
[21:45] <Seveas> it's tasty though
[21:45]  * Seveas ♥ cheese
[21:45] <ompaul> LjL, a hard cheese ham mustard brown bread
[21:45] <ompaul> if I could I would
[21:45] <Seveas> sounds delicios
[21:46] <Seveas> even if I don't spell right :)
[21:46] <ompaul> Seveas, with an alt beer yepa
[21:46] <LjL> well lately i'm enjoying some swedish cheese i get from IKEA, so i shouldn't criticize others i guess.
[21:47] <Seveas> heh
[21:47] <Seveas> swedish meatballs!
[21:47] <LjL> oh no not those
[21:47] <ompaul> LjL, eat the wholes they are the best bits
[21:47] <Seveas> I always eat those when I'm at ikea
[21:47] <LjL> i always eat those after my parents go to ikea
[21:47] <Pici> lax?
[21:47] <LjL> but that doesn't mean i like them
[21:47] <Seveas> the take-away ones are horrible
[21:48] <Seveas> the ones they serve in their 'restaurant' are good
[21:48] <LjL> hm suppose i've tried the restaurant too long ago to remember
[21:51] <jussi01> finnish meatballs ftw!!
[21:51] <LjL> blääh
[21:52] <Pici> bork bork bork
[21:52] <Seveas> chocolate moose
[21:52] <jussi01> with that, im going to bed. night all.
[21:53] <Seveas> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IYd_02tfLA
[21:53] <PriceChild> sleep well
[22:11] <ompaul>   http://www.redsave.com/products/iDog-World-Penguin,,35 heheh I have one here funny thing
[22:18] <PriceChild> @now
[22:18] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 21 2007, 21:18:13 - Next meeting: Server Team in 1 day
[22:29] <PriceChild> cpt complains his intel card doesn't work
[22:30] <PriceChild> I tell him it should be fine out of the box
[22:30] <PriceChild> he clarifies that it broke when he changed the default settings.
[22:30] <PriceChild> I head desk
[22:30] <PriceChild> (missed a step where he denied it working ootb)
[22:31] <ompaul> PriceChild, this works for values of annoying
[22:56] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, AmyRose said: !no, konqueror is the default browser on Kubuntu
[22:56] <Pici> !konqueror
[22:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Pici said: !automatix =~ s/creditable/credible/
[22:58] <Pici> %login
[22:58] <ubotu> OK
[22:58] <Pici> !automatix =~ s/creditable/credible/
[22:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[23:47] <LjL> what's wrong with creditable?
[23:48] <jdong> !automatix
[23:48] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A credible analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[23:48] <jdong> "Automatix2 is a block of code "
[23:48] <jdong> nice :)
[23:48] <jdong> block of code
[23:48] <popey> s/block of code/product 
[23:49] <PriceChild> jdong, maybe we should change it to package manager?
[23:49] <PriceChild> oh wait...
[23:49] <Pici> LjL: maybe creditable is better... hrm.
[23:49] <jdong> but seriously, we should change it from block of code
[23:49]  * popey disagrees with Pici 
[23:49] <jdong> Pici / LjL : I like "an objective analysis"
[23:49] <LjL> +1
[23:49] <jdong> or a "technical analysis"
[23:49] <Pici> jdong: ooh, thats good.
[23:50] <PriceChild> jdong, I can't remember what it was before... but I think the current is better than it was
[23:50] <LjL> s/block of code/stuff/
[23:50] <PriceChild> the block of code bit
[23:50] <popey> the block of code bit is a touch rude
[23:50] <Pici> !automatix =~ s/credible/technical/
[23:50] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[23:50] <PriceChild> I think it was "$adjective script"
[23:50] <popey> somewhat disparaging
[23:50] <jdong> PriceChild: I don't think it's good practice, no matter how much we might all hate it, to be implying an insult at a product....
[23:50] <popey> +1
[23:50] <LjL> popey: well the intent *is* to disparge though :)
[23:50] <jdong> in the context of the factoid it's simply not necessary
[23:51] <popey> the intent should be to enlighten
[23:51] <jdong> can we just change it to "is a third party application"
[23:51] <PriceChild> *is appalling with wording*
[23:51] <jdong> which is much more neutral and straightforward
[23:51] <Pici> jdong: +1
[23:51] <LjL> !automatix =~ s/a block of code/third-party software/
[23:51] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[23:51] <LjL> aw, there is already software
[23:52] <popey> s/software/product
[23:52] <LjL> !automatix =~ s/software/product/
[23:52] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[23:52] <jdong> !automatix
[23:52] <ubotu> Automatix2 is third-party product which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A technical analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[23:52] <jdong> that sounds a lot better
[23:52] <LjL> i don't particularly like "some software" either though
[23:52] <Pici> me either.
[23:52] <popey> s/some/additional
[23:52] <Pici> package(s).
[23:52] <popey> s/attempts to/attempts to easily
[23:52] <LjL> Pici: no, since it doesn't always install *packages*
[23:52] <Pici> Hm.
[23:53] <popey> that is what it attempts to do, whether it does or not is not ubotus call :)
[23:53] <Pici> !automatix =~ s/some/additional/
[23:53] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[23:54] <popey> makes it sound like a trojan
[23:54] <LjL> while we're there
[23:55] <LjL> !automatix =~ s/is here -/can be found at/
[23:55] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[23:55] <popey> "is a third-party product which aims to simplify some software installations.
[23:55]  * popey shrugs
[23:56] <nalioth> it's worse than a trojan
[23:56] <stdin> don't make it sound too good ;)
[23:56] <nalioth> trojans sneak onto your system.  you place some sort of trust in crap-o-matix
[23:56] <popey> trojans don't sneak, you run them
[23:56] <popey> viruses sneak
[23:57] <LjL> s/attempts to install additional software/attempts to automate installation of some additional software/
[23:57] <krux0> test me
[23:58] <jdong> please?
[23:58] <popey> +1 LjL 
[23:58] <LjL> krux0: you're good
[23:58] <krux0> Thanks
[23:58] <LjL> !automatix =~ s/attempts to install additional software/attempts to automate installation of some additional software/
[23:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[23:58] <Pici> !automatix
[23:58] <ubotu> Automatix2 is third-party product which attempts to automate installation of some additional software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A technical analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[23:59] <LjL> and there it became three lines on my screen
[23:59] <Mez> !tribalwars is <reply> Tribal Wars is a web based browser game. For more information and to learn how to yjoin the other ubunteros playing it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TribalWars
[23:59] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Mez
[23:59] <stdin> s/yjoin/join/
[23:59] <LjL> !tribalwars =~ s/yjoin/join/
[23:59] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL