[00:13] <jnc> hope some of you are familiar with Gutsy server, the setup option is "install" or "cli"... is cli the same as the old "server" install from feisty?
[00:13] <jnc> or even more minimal than server
[00:14] <jnc> my goal is to set up a Xen box
[01:02] <AnRkey> how do i allow a user to only have sftp instead of ssh access on his/her account?
[01:03] <AnRkey> in other words, is there a shell that i can set that will only allow sftp instead of ssh?
[01:07] <mralphabet> AnRkey: I think you can change their shell to /dev/null and it won't let them log in, I don't know if that also blocks sftp
[01:07] <AnRkey> ok
[01:07] <AnRkey> thanks
[01:07] <AnRkey> gonna give it a bash
[01:13] <AnRkey> pardon the pun
[01:26] <AnRkey> mralphabet, nope, I have tried that now and it fails at login
[01:27] <AnRkey> switch it back and it's fine
[01:27] <AnRkey> any other idea's?
[01:35]  * nealmcb cheers for ivoks
[01:35] <jnc> AnRkey: do not use /dev/null
[01:35] <jnc> use /bin/false
[01:36] <AnRkey> jnc, tried that too
[01:36] <jnc> the other way is change 'x' for password to '!'
[01:36] <jnc> i.e. disable shadow password and the account
[01:36] <jnc> sorry I didn't read
[01:37] <jnc> AnRkey: you want password based authentication from /etc/passwd, or would ssh key work too?
[01:38] <AnRkey> i need to replace ftp for "special" people so keys are not a good idea
[01:38] <jnc> oh who cares if they have ssh access, just set their shell to log them out
[01:38] <jnc> non?
[01:39] <AnRkey> that could work
[01:39] <stiv2k> what is scsi_eh_1 ?
[01:39] <AnRkey> ~/.bashrc?
[01:39] <jnc> .bash_profile for bash
[01:39] <AnRkey> echo exit >> ~/.bashrc?
[01:40] <stiv2k> its popping up every couple of seconds in `top`
[01:40] <AnRkey> for those users that is?
[01:40] <jnc> AnRkey: it's actually .bash_login or something
[01:40] <AnRkey> ok
[01:40]  * AnRkey fiddles some more
[01:40] <jnc> you can try it yourself, just be sure to throw a "sleep 10s" in there
[01:40] <jnc> otherwise it's bad times
[01:40] <jnc> or create a crap account to play with
[01:41] <jnc> I don't want to hear you lock yourself out :)
[01:42] <stiv2k> anybody know?
[01:42] <jnc> stiv2k: kernel stuff
[01:42] <stiv2k> jnc: ok... just wondering
[01:43] <jnc> put on the tin foil hat if it bothers you :P
[01:43] <jnc> shiny side up!
[01:43] <stiv2k> basically
[01:43] <stiv2k> my server seems kind of slow since the upgrade to gutsy
[01:43] <stiv2k> and i cant figure out why
[01:44] <jnc> is swap enabled?
[01:44] <stiv2k> like it will lag when streaming a movie or even typing in the terminal thru ssh
[01:44] <jnc> oh
[01:44] <stiv2k> i dont really know
[01:44] <jnc> and check your DNS settings
[01:44] <stiv2k> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[01:44] <stiv2k> like it was fine yesterday
[01:44] <jnc> swapon -s will list your active swap space
[01:44] <stiv2k> but when i upgraded to gutsy it seems much laggier
[01:45] <stiv2k> /dev/sda5                               partition       465844  220     -1
[01:46] <stiv2k> any other ideas, jnc ?
[01:46] <jnc> free -m
[01:46] <stiv2k>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[01:46] <stiv2k> Mem:           248        244          4          0          3         75
[01:46] <stiv2k> -/+ buffers/cache:        166         82
[01:46] <stiv2k> Swap:          454          0        454
[01:47] <jnc> uh
[01:47] <jnc> you only have 256mb ram?
[01:47] <stiv2k> yea
[01:47] <stiv2k> but it didn't really seem to be a problem up until now
[01:47] <jnc> nah, 75mb in the cache should be fine
[01:47] <jnc> but a bump to 512mb physical would help you out a lot
[01:48] <stiv2k> the machine only supports a maximum of 128 mb per DIMM slot
[01:48] <stiv2k> and there are only 2 DIMMs
[01:48] <stiv2k> (it's old)
[01:48] <jnc> ha.  okay hmm
[01:49] <stiv2k> i see scsi_eh_1 and hald-addon-stor showing up on top every couple of seconds
[01:49] <jnc> HAL is kind of weird for a server, but whatever
[01:49] <stiv2k> jnc: dont know how it got there
[01:49] <stiv2k> jnc: do you think i should get rid of it?
[01:49] <jnc> it's part of the new Ubuntu system
[01:50] <stiv2k> oh
[01:50] <jnc> honestly if you're running on a box with 256mb RAM, you may be happier running Debian Etch
[01:50] <stiv2k> why?
[01:50] <jnc> it's basically the same without the nice kernels and hald crap
[01:51] <stiv2k> ah
[01:51] <jnc> I know it was working for you before, so that's one thought, going with the earlier version
[01:51] <jnc> or Ubuntu LTS 6.06
[01:51] <stiv2k> well i was running feisty yesterday and it was fine
[01:51] <stiv2k> then i did the release upgrade and things seem slower
[01:52] <jnc> bad DNS settings can cause lag
[01:52] <stiv2k> well the only nameserver i'm using is the router
[01:52] <jnc>  /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname, /etc/resolv.conf
[01:53] <stiv2k> oh ok
[01:53] <stiv2k> straight to paste in here?
[01:53] <jnc> if you have search justkidding.com   and your host is wax.myears.net,  then trying to look up wax will hang for a while
[01:53] <jnc> because it tries wax.justkidding.com first
[01:54] <stiv2k> steve@galatea:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[01:54] <stiv2k> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[01:54] <jnc> yeah don't paste the whole thing
[01:54] <stiv2k> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[01:54] <stiv2k> 127.0.0.1       galatea.neoturbine.net neoturbine.net
[01:54] <stiv2k> 192.168.1.10    galatea.neoturbine.net neoturbine.net
[01:54] <jnc> what...
[01:54] <stiv2k> i dont know if its configured properly
[01:54] <jnc> get rid of the line with your IP address
[01:55] <AnRkey> jnc, i run a box with 128 at work and it's a proxy for 100+ teachers
[01:55] <jnc> AnRkey: I just don't go near hardware that might be problematic, is all
[01:55] <stiv2k> jnc: there's also some ipv6 stuff in the /etc/hosts
[01:56] <stiv2k> and finally,
[01:56] <stiv2k> steve@galatea:~$ cat /etc/hostname
[01:56] <stiv2k> galatea.neoturbine.net
[01:56] <jnc> clients don't pay me for stuff that costs less, they pay for stuff that works when I'm not around :)
[01:56] <jnc> stiv2k: okay your /etc/hostname should contain only "galatea"
[01:56] <stiv2k> jnc: ok...why is that
[01:57] <jnc> stiv2k: /etc/hosts should have one line for localhost, one line for your hosts....
[01:57] <jnc> 127.0.0.1 galatea.neoturbine.net galatea
[01:57] <jnc> so that's just wrong.
[01:57] <jnc> go fix that, reboot, see if it's any better
[02:05]  * stiv2k shrugs
[02:07] <stiv2k> i dunno if its the limitations of my wireless network, the shitty wireless driver i'm using on this laptop, or the server
[02:08] <stiv2k> but im only downloading at 120- - 170 KB/s from the server
[02:08] <stiv2k> when normally i'd get like 2.5 MB/s
[02:16] <stiv2k> rofl!!!
[02:16] <stiv2k> jnc: you're going to like this
[02:16] <stiv2k> i figured out the problem
[02:17] <stiv2k> (kinda)
[02:35] <jnc> stiv2k: what happened?
[02:35] <stiv2k> jnc: the slowness is due to the wireless driver on this laptop
[02:35] <stiv2k> i dunno if you've heard of b43 before
[02:36] <jnc> oh I've heard that it sucks
[02:36] <jnc> and how.
[02:36] <stiv2k> anyway, i have bittorrent open, and me downloading / uploading a torrent is maxing out the bandwidth the wireless driver can do (as of now they said it has severe Tx power issues)
[02:37] <stiv2k> even though im only downloading/uploading at about 40 KB/s
[02:37] <stiv2k> theres no more resources left for the 3 ssh sessions i have open to my server
[02:37] <stiv2k> make sense?
[08:11] <stork> how can i create a new user that can use sudo ?
[08:11] <ivoks> add it to admin group
[08:13] <stork> ah, cheers.
[09:43] <stork> grr
[09:43] <stork> have to install java6 by hand
[09:49] <ivoks> why?
[09:58] <stork> 6.06 doesn't have it in repos
[09:59] <stork> and i asked my admin to give me 6.06
[09:59] <stork> in retrospect, that was a bad idea
[10:28] <ivoks> there wasn't java6 at  the time 6.06 was released
[10:35] <stork> yarr
[10:54] <kraut> moin
[11:35] <ackerpaul> salut
[11:35] <ackerpaul> is there any x-windows within the server edition?
[11:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> not on the install cd
[11:36] <ackerpaul> but it's possible to upgrade?
[11:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> upgrade?
[11:37] <ackerpaul> or can i just pimp an usual desktop-ubunt into a server?
[11:37] <ackerpaul> aehm,...
[11:38] <ackerpaul> can i install  x-packages in an ubuntu-server edition
[11:38] <ackerpaul> ?
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[11:41] <ackerpaul> yes to both of the questions? ;)
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[11:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[11:59] <ackerpaul> thx
[13:45] <attunix> What libraries do I need installed to program in GTK?+
[13:49] <attunix> I keep getting an error that <gtk/gtk.h> header file doesn't exist.
[15:39] <jnc> I've read a few reports that Gutsy works as a dom0, but I can't seem to get it working like I had debian etch r4.0 working
[15:39] <jnc> :(
[15:39] <jnc> (Xen stuff)
[15:39] <jnc> then I was chased out of #ubuntu-xen by guys posting links of women eating poop
[15:40] <MenZa> lmao
[15:40] <MenZa> (That's not funny, but I find it that, somehow)
[15:40] <jnc> yeah.  People at datacenters have too much time to do nothing better.
[15:41] <jnc> that's my guess anyways... I'm still searching for a working configuration of Gutsy as dom0
[16:11] <mralphabet> o0
[18:34] <m11> hello
[18:36] <birmaan> evening
[19:33] <jose__> hi version server 7.10 have problem windows manager
[19:33] <jose__> ??
[19:40] <ivoks> i didn't quite understand the question
[20:44] <stork> eek
[20:44] <stork> i have a feeling my ubuntu 6.06 server is being DDoSd
[20:44] <stork> is there anything I can do to check?
[20:44] <stork> i.e. view incoming connections ?
[20:59] <nijaba> stork: netstat -a ?
[21:01] <Nafallo> if netstat, you want -n :-)
[21:01] <Nafallo> at least if you have many connections
[21:02] <nijaba> Nafallo: right, it will be quicker
[21:03] <Nafallo> probably want -t as well
[21:09] <stork> eh maybe not
[21:09] <stork> thanks guys
[21:09] <stork> think i'm alright
[21:09] <stork> server just decided to slow itself up
[22:24] <jnc> okay, so is "cli" install the same as server install?
[22:24] <jnc> that's not a simple question, it's a literal question about the netboot installer
[22:25] <jnc> the netboot installer I have set up for Gutsy is prompting me to install with "install" or "cli"
[22:25] <jnc> I've tried "install" and it ends up installing openoffice.org-common, which is kind of odd
[22:26] <jnc> but who knows, is that what I want?
[22:31] <jnc> pschulz01: hi
[22:31] <jnc> =)
[22:31] <pschulz01> jnc: Morning.
[22:32] <pschulz01> jnc: What's up?
[22:32] <pschulz01> jnc: (doc)
[22:33] <jnc> heh.  just got a question about installation.  trying to relax this one day out of my week
[22:33] <jnc> how are you?
[22:33] <pschulz01> jnc: Go into work early :-)
[22:34] <jnc> ha, right, on a Sunday (here in the USA)
[22:35] <pschulz01> jnc: I'll be talking with American people tomorrow morning my time.. we're like.. 10 hrs behind and 1 day ahead.
[22:36] <pschulz01> Has your question been answered?
[22:36] <jnc> no, not acknowleged yet even
[22:37] <jnc> it was about netboot installs, what exactly is a "server" install in syslinux parameters?
[22:37] <pschulz01> jnc: Oh.
[22:38] <pschulz01> jnc: Not sure.. does it refer to 'netboot' at all?
[22:38] <jnc> nah.  I just am confused about what the difference is today with Gutsy of a Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server install
[22:38] <jnc> there's a split on the website, yet they ask you to download the same ISO image
[22:38] <pschulz01> jnc: I would guess that you would use the 'server' cd image rather than the desktop one.
[22:39] <jnc> is it really a different one?
[22:39] <jnc> I just looked, maybe I got it wrong
[22:39] <pschulz01> jnc: For me it's a driver thing.. rather than userspace software.
[22:40] <jnc> [Download Ubuntu Server Edition »]  == http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[22:40] <pschulz01> jnc: The server CD doesn't install much of the desktop software (if any) by default.
[22:41] <jnc> [You can download Ubuntu, or request a free CD from Canonical.] == http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[22:41] <jnc> so ...
[22:41] <jnc> I think this is confusing me
[22:41] <pschulz01> There are different iso images.
[22:42] <jnc> the website doesn't show it
[22:42] <jnc> I know there were different ISO images for Feisty Desktop and Feisty Server
[22:42] <pschulz01> jnc: THe server also doen't include the 'live cd image', os it will start installing straight away.
[22:42] <jnc> but now I look at Gutsy and I don't see them
[22:43] <jnc> ohh....
[22:43] <jnc> it's a radio button widget on the website form
[22:43] <jnc> someone needs to fix that website
[22:44] <atouk> how so?
[22:45] <jnc> if I click on the "more info" for Ubuntu Server, I read all about this great product, and I click the link [Download Ubuntu Server Edition]
[22:46] <jnc> well then, why is the Desktop edition selected?
[22:46] <jnc> making the user click again is not obvious
[22:47] <atouk> hmmm   sisn't confuse me.     guess i did it after i had my coffee
[22:47] <atouk> (didn't)
[22:49] <jnc> "Follow the [Download center] and choose Ubuntu Server edition today!"
[22:49] <jnc> that would be better
[22:49] <jnc> I'm a *nix admin, not a mouse in a maze. =)
[22:50] <atouk> well, once you get past that, installation is painless
[22:50] <jnc> okay, again with the website, what does the option for selecting an Alternate CD do if you download the Server edition
[22:51] <jnc> is Server edition shipping with a LiveCD mode and Gnome interface?
[22:51] <atouk> don't know    just downloaded 1 each of the desktop and server iso's
[22:52] <jnc> well, okay.  I'd like to do this from netboot install, so I will have to find out what the syslinux parameters are on the Server edition insatll
[22:52] <jnc> install, even
[22:53] <jnc> maybe I will get the ISO, unless you have one handy and would be willing to grab the syslinux conf for pastebin?
[22:53] <atouk> server install was pretty complete   only added ftp server and SWAT
[22:54] <atouk> what folder?
[22:56] <atouk> can't find a file named that
[23:03] <peanutb> Im looking at the gutsy server disc, and im wondering what is installed by the different options. Is this posted somewhere?
[23:09] <jnc> atouk: sorry, I got distracted by #ubuntu-chicago
[23:09] <atouk> np
[23:09] <atouk> peanut   the list of services?
[23:10] <jnc> atouk: if you do a search for 'boot.txt' it should be apparent
[23:11] <atouk> boot.txt is just some advertising
[23:12] <peanutb> atouk, yeah
[23:12] <atouk> ubuntu-installer/i386/boot-screens/splash.rleThe default installation is suitable...
[23:12] <atouk> haven't seen a list    lsts see if i can remember most
[23:12] <jnc> yeahhh... ubuntu-installer/i386/*.cfg
[23:12] <jnc> mine is labelled pxelinux.cfg
[23:13] <jnc> but for yours it would be syslinux.cfg?
[23:13] <atouk> lamp, css, progresssql, samba
[23:13] <jnc> oh wild.
[23:13] <atouk> a couple others i didn't install
[23:13] <peanutb> im guessing the print server is just CUPS configured to listen to other addresses, and the file server just samba
[23:13] <jnc> atouk: would you mind to pastebin them?
[23:13] <peanutb> mainly, im wondering about the mail server template
[23:14] <jnc> all of them as a single pastebin would be fine
[23:14] <jnc> peanutb: samba and nfs I think for the fileserver
[23:14] <atouk> if i can find them
[23:14] <atouk> yeah   mailserver was one too
[23:15] <atouk> (don't know flavor, etc)
[23:15] <pschulz01> atouk: postfix
[23:15] <peanutb> is it just a smtp-ish server or is it also imap.pop3
[23:15] <atouk> found prelinux.cfg    file length 0
[23:15] <peanutb> imap/pop3
[23:16] <jnc> nah, not prelinux.cfg
[23:16] <lamont> peanutb: SMTP MTA
[23:16] <jnc> yours should be called syslinux.cfg
[23:16] <jnc> it's the boot loader used by a bootable cd
[23:17] <peanutb> hmm. ok then
[23:18] <atouk> think i found it    named default in folder prelinux.cfg
[23:18] <peanutb> do they do any config at all? or is it just install packages?
[23:18] <atouk> configs everything on standard install.   i used expert so i could set static ip
[23:19] <jnc> atouk: ah, yeah that actually might be it, I think you're right
[23:19] <atouk> answer a few qustions, reboot, server running
[23:19] <atouk> painless
[23:21] <peanutb> i wish there was more documentation on this. I think im gonna see how i coulde get involved in makeing some
[23:23] <atouk> actually 2 default in seperate places
[23:23] <jnc> atouk, http://pastebin.ca/744948
[23:23] <jnc> so... my question now is, will netboot be sufficient to install Ubuntu Server?
[23:23] <atouk> don't know
[23:23] <atouk> did cd install
[23:23] <jnc> I think we will know more by comparing the syslinux lines
[23:24] <atouk> accept dcc
[23:25] <jnc> atouk: okay, ready now
[23:25] <atouk> still not showing?
[23:26] <jnc> no, I'm not very competent with irssi DCC stuff
[23:27] <atouk> hold on    i'll past a bit into a PM so you can tell if it's what you want
[23:31] <jnc> interesting, it also lists "cli" and "install"
[23:31] <jnc> so you picked "install" ?
[23:33] <atouk> did the expert install      standard uses dhcp, experts lets you enter the ip
[23:35] <jnc> yeah I would think that installing Ubuntu Server via netboot would be a supported and documented configuration, when in fact I don't see support and there's no documentation
[23:35] <jnc> heh
[23:36] <jnc> maybe I have to shell out money to pay for company-line support :(
[23:36] <jnc> atouk: thank you for your help!
[23:36] <atouk> shy not just burn a cd?
[23:36] <jnc> no cd drive
[23:37] <atouk> rack servers?
[23:37] <jnc> yup
[23:38] <atouk> usb ports?
[23:38] <jnc> sure, I don't think booting from them works though
[23:38] <jnc> is there a way to install Server from USB?
[23:39] <atouk> if usb is a bootable device    just get large capacity usb drive or a portable CD
[23:40] <atouk> of course if anything breaks, we never had this conversation
[23:42] <jnc> um.  "lol"
[23:42] <jnc>        /\
[23:43] <jnc>           :    :  : :  : : : : :::: zoom
[23:45] <atouk> one little gotcha.  if you want to use SWAT from a remote machine, you need to enable root logins
[23:46] <jnc> or use SSH tunneling like a sane person ;)
[23:47] <jnc> no disrespect meant
[23:47] <atouk> yeah   but SWAT makes setting up samba painless
[23:56] <jnc> atouk: just to be clear, what I meant is setting up port forwarding via Secure Shell, so that when a user directs their web browser on the desktop machine at http://localhost:10861/ or whatever port is being forwarded to the remote host to connect to (remote host as localhost) on the port for SWAT, it would work
[23:56] <jnc> as if the user was on the server as a local machine user
[23:57] <jnc> simpler example is I have a web service on my server available only to loopback and port 3000,  so I want this from my desktop, I port forward via SSH and set up 9999:localhost:3000, now on the desktop I go to http://localhost:9999/ and it works
[23:57] <atouk> haven't tried that.    just that if you log on as a regular user, you can only see configuration info, you need to be able to log on a root to make changes
[23:58] <jnc> ohh that is true, I had not considered this
[23:58] <jnc> I wonder, is there some group the user needs to belong to for it to work?
[23:59] <atouk> may be able to do it, but since my machine is going to be insulated, it was just easier to make root account active
[23:59] <jnc> =)