[00:13] hope some of you are familiar with Gutsy server, the setup option is "install" or "cli"... is cli the same as the old "server" install from feisty? [00:13] or even more minimal than server [00:14] my goal is to set up a Xen box [01:02] how do i allow a user to only have sftp instead of ssh access on his/her account? [01:03] in other words, is there a shell that i can set that will only allow sftp instead of ssh? [01:07] AnRkey: I think you can change their shell to /dev/null and it won't let them log in, I don't know if that also blocks sftp [01:07] ok [01:07] thanks [01:07] gonna give it a bash [01:13] pardon the pun [01:26] mralphabet, nope, I have tried that now and it fails at login [01:27] switch it back and it's fine [01:27] any other idea's? [01:35] * nealmcb cheers for ivoks [01:35] AnRkey: do not use /dev/null [01:35] use /bin/false [01:36] jnc, tried that too [01:36] the other way is change 'x' for password to '!' [01:36] i.e. disable shadow password and the account [01:36] sorry I didn't read [01:37] AnRkey: you want password based authentication from /etc/passwd, or would ssh key work too? [01:38] i need to replace ftp for "special" people so keys are not a good idea [01:38] oh who cares if they have ssh access, just set their shell to log them out [01:38] non? [01:39] that could work [01:39] what is scsi_eh_1 ? [01:39] ~/.bashrc? [01:39] .bash_profile for bash [01:39] echo exit >> ~/.bashrc? [01:40] its popping up every couple of seconds in `top` [01:40] for those users that is? [01:40] AnRkey: it's actually .bash_login or something [01:40] ok [01:40] * AnRkey fiddles some more [01:40] you can try it yourself, just be sure to throw a "sleep 10s" in there [01:40] otherwise it's bad times [01:40] or create a crap account to play with [01:41] I don't want to hear you lock yourself out :) [01:42] anybody know? [01:42] stiv2k: kernel stuff [01:42] jnc: ok... just wondering [01:43] put on the tin foil hat if it bothers you :P [01:43] shiny side up! [01:43] basically [01:43] my server seems kind of slow since the upgrade to gutsy [01:43] and i cant figure out why [01:44] is swap enabled? [01:44] like it will lag when streaming a movie or even typing in the terminal thru ssh [01:44] oh [01:44] i dont really know [01:44] and check your DNS settings [01:44] nameserver 192.168.1.1 [01:44] like it was fine yesterday [01:44] swapon -s will list your active swap space [01:44] but when i upgraded to gutsy it seems much laggier [01:45] /dev/sda5 partition 465844 220 -1 [01:46] any other ideas, jnc ? [01:46] free -m [01:46] total used free shared buffers cached [01:46] Mem: 248 244 4 0 3 75 [01:46] -/+ buffers/cache: 166 82 [01:46] Swap: 454 0 454 [01:47] uh [01:47] you only have 256mb ram? [01:47] yea [01:47] but it didn't really seem to be a problem up until now [01:47] nah, 75mb in the cache should be fine [01:47] but a bump to 512mb physical would help you out a lot [01:48] the machine only supports a maximum of 128 mb per DIMM slot [01:48] and there are only 2 DIMMs [01:48] (it's old) [01:48] ha. okay hmm [01:49] i see scsi_eh_1 and hald-addon-stor showing up on top every couple of seconds [01:49] HAL is kind of weird for a server, but whatever [01:49] jnc: dont know how it got there [01:49] jnc: do you think i should get rid of it? [01:49] it's part of the new Ubuntu system [01:50] oh [01:50] honestly if you're running on a box with 256mb RAM, you may be happier running Debian Etch [01:50] why? [01:50] it's basically the same without the nice kernels and hald crap [01:51] ah [01:51] I know it was working for you before, so that's one thought, going with the earlier version [01:51] or Ubuntu LTS 6.06 [01:51] well i was running feisty yesterday and it was fine [01:51] then i did the release upgrade and things seem slower [01:52] bad DNS settings can cause lag [01:52] well the only nameserver i'm using is the router [01:52] /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname, /etc/resolv.conf [01:53] oh ok [01:53] straight to paste in here? [01:53] if you have search justkidding.com and your host is wax.myears.net, then trying to look up wax will hang for a while [01:53] because it tries wax.justkidding.com first [01:54] steve@galatea:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf [01:54] nameserver 192.168.1.1 [01:54] yeah don't paste the whole thing [01:54] 127.0.0.1 localhost [01:54] 127.0.0.1 galatea.neoturbine.net neoturbine.net [01:54] 192.168.1.10 galatea.neoturbine.net neoturbine.net [01:54] what... [01:54] i dont know if its configured properly [01:54] get rid of the line with your IP address [01:55] jnc, i run a box with 128 at work and it's a proxy for 100+ teachers [01:55] AnRkey: I just don't go near hardware that might be problematic, is all [01:55] jnc: there's also some ipv6 stuff in the /etc/hosts [01:56] and finally, [01:56] steve@galatea:~$ cat /etc/hostname [01:56] galatea.neoturbine.net [01:56] clients don't pay me for stuff that costs less, they pay for stuff that works when I'm not around :) [01:56] stiv2k: okay your /etc/hostname should contain only "galatea" [01:56] jnc: ok...why is that [01:57] stiv2k: /etc/hosts should have one line for localhost, one line for your hosts.... [01:57] 127.0.0.1 galatea.neoturbine.net galatea [01:57] so that's just wrong. [01:57] go fix that, reboot, see if it's any better [02:05] * stiv2k shrugs [02:07] i dunno if its the limitations of my wireless network, the shitty wireless driver i'm using on this laptop, or the server [02:08] but im only downloading at 120- - 170 KB/s from the server [02:08] when normally i'd get like 2.5 MB/s [02:16] rofl!!! [02:16] jnc: you're going to like this [02:16] i figured out the problem [02:17] (kinda) [02:35] stiv2k: what happened? [02:35] jnc: the slowness is due to the wireless driver on this laptop [02:35] i dunno if you've heard of b43 before [02:36] oh I've heard that it sucks [02:36] and how. [02:36] anyway, i have bittorrent open, and me downloading / uploading a torrent is maxing out the bandwidth the wireless driver can do (as of now they said it has severe Tx power issues) [02:37] even though im only downloading/uploading at about 40 KB/s [02:37] theres no more resources left for the 3 ssh sessions i have open to my server [02:37] make sense? === dantalizing_ is now known as dantalizing [08:11] how can i create a new user that can use sudo ? [08:11] add it to admin group [08:13] ah, cheers. [09:43] grr [09:43] have to install java6 by hand [09:49] why? [09:58] 6.06 doesn't have it in repos [09:59] and i asked my admin to give me 6.06 [09:59] in retrospect, that was a bad idea [10:28] there wasn't java6 at the time 6.06 was released [10:35] yarr [10:54] moin [11:35] salut [11:35] is there any x-windows within the server edition? [11:36] not on the install cd [11:36] but it's possible to upgrade? [11:36] upgrade? [11:37] or can i just pimp an usual desktop-ubunt into a server? [11:37] aehm,... [11:38] can i install x-packages in an ubuntu-server edition [11:38] ? [11:39] yes [11:41] yes to both of the questions? ;) [11:42] yes [11:42] :) [11:59] thx === Drazha755 is now known as Drazha [13:45] What libraries do I need installed to program in GTK?+ [13:49] I keep getting an error that header file doesn't exist. === Drazha593 is now known as Drazha [15:39] I've read a few reports that Gutsy works as a dom0, but I can't seem to get it working like I had debian etch r4.0 working [15:39] :( [15:39] (Xen stuff) [15:39] then I was chased out of #ubuntu-xen by guys posting links of women eating poop [15:40] lmao [15:40] (That's not funny, but I find it that, somehow) [15:40] yeah. People at datacenters have too much time to do nothing better. [15:41] that's my guess anyways... I'm still searching for a working configuration of Gutsy as dom0 [16:11] o0 [18:34] hello [18:36] evening [19:33] hi version server 7.10 have problem windows manager [19:33] ?? [19:40] i didn't quite understand the question === m11 is now known as m1r [20:44] eek [20:44] i have a feeling my ubuntu 6.06 server is being DDoSd [20:44] is there anything I can do to check? [20:44] i.e. view incoming connections ? [20:59] stork: netstat -a ? [21:01] if netstat, you want -n :-) [21:01] at least if you have many connections [21:02] Nafallo: right, it will be quicker [21:03] probably want -t as well [21:09] eh maybe not [21:09] thanks guys [21:09] think i'm alright [21:09] server just decided to slow itself up === dendro-away is now known as dendrobates [22:24] okay, so is "cli" install the same as server install? [22:24] that's not a simple question, it's a literal question about the netboot installer [22:25] the netboot installer I have set up for Gutsy is prompting me to install with "install" or "cli" [22:25] I've tried "install" and it ends up installing openoffice.org-common, which is kind of odd [22:26] but who knows, is that what I want? [22:31] pschulz01: hi [22:31] =) [22:31] jnc: Morning. [22:32] jnc: What's up? [22:32] jnc: (doc) [22:33] heh. just got a question about installation. trying to relax this one day out of my week [22:33] how are you? [22:33] jnc: Go into work early :-) [22:34] ha, right, on a Sunday (here in the USA) [22:35] jnc: I'll be talking with American people tomorrow morning my time.. we're like.. 10 hrs behind and 1 day ahead. [22:36] Has your question been answered? [22:36] no, not acknowleged yet even [22:37] it was about netboot installs, what exactly is a "server" install in syslinux parameters? [22:37] jnc: Oh. [22:38] jnc: Not sure.. does it refer to 'netboot' at all? [22:38] nah. I just am confused about what the difference is today with Gutsy of a Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server install [22:38] there's a split on the website, yet they ask you to download the same ISO image [22:38] jnc: I would guess that you would use the 'server' cd image rather than the desktop one. [22:39] is it really a different one? [22:39] I just looked, maybe I got it wrong [22:39] jnc: For me it's a driver thing.. rather than userspace software. [22:40] [Download Ubuntu Server Edition »] == http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download [22:40] jnc: The server CD doesn't install much of the desktop software (if any) by default. [22:41] [You can download Ubuntu, or request a free CD from Canonical.] == http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download [22:41] so ... [22:41] I think this is confusing me [22:41] There are different iso images. [22:42] the website doesn't show it [22:42] I know there were different ISO images for Feisty Desktop and Feisty Server [22:42] jnc: THe server also doen't include the 'live cd image', os it will start installing straight away. [22:42] but now I look at Gutsy and I don't see them [22:43] ohh.... [22:43] it's a radio button widget on the website form [22:43] someone needs to fix that website [22:44] how so? [22:45] if I click on the "more info" for Ubuntu Server, I read all about this great product, and I click the link [Download Ubuntu Server Edition] [22:46] well then, why is the Desktop edition selected? [22:46] making the user click again is not obvious [22:47] hmmm sisn't confuse me. guess i did it after i had my coffee [22:47] (didn't) [22:49] "Follow the [Download center] and choose Ubuntu Server edition today!" [22:49] that would be better [22:49] I'm a *nix admin, not a mouse in a maze. =) [22:50] well, once you get past that, installation is painless [22:50] okay, again with the website, what does the option for selecting an Alternate CD do if you download the Server edition [22:51] is Server edition shipping with a LiveCD mode and Gnome interface? [22:51] don't know just downloaded 1 each of the desktop and server iso's [22:52] well, okay. I'd like to do this from netboot install, so I will have to find out what the syslinux parameters are on the Server edition insatll [22:52] install, even [22:53] maybe I will get the ISO, unless you have one handy and would be willing to grab the syslinux conf for pastebin? [22:53] server install was pretty complete only added ftp server and SWAT [22:54] what folder? [22:56] can't find a file named that [23:03] Im looking at the gutsy server disc, and im wondering what is installed by the different options. Is this posted somewhere? [23:09] atouk: sorry, I got distracted by #ubuntu-chicago [23:09] np [23:09] peanut the list of services? [23:10] atouk: if you do a search for 'boot.txt' it should be apparent [23:11] boot.txt is just some advertising [23:12] atouk, yeah [23:12] ubuntu-installer/i386/boot-screens/splash.rleThe default installation is suitable... [23:12] haven't seen a list lsts see if i can remember most [23:12] yeahhh... ubuntu-installer/i386/*.cfg [23:12] mine is labelled pxelinux.cfg [23:13] but for yours it would be syslinux.cfg? [23:13] lamp, css, progresssql, samba [23:13] oh wild. [23:13] a couple others i didn't install [23:13] im guessing the print server is just CUPS configured to listen to other addresses, and the file server just samba [23:13] atouk: would you mind to pastebin them? [23:13] mainly, im wondering about the mail server template [23:14] all of them as a single pastebin would be fine [23:14] peanutb: samba and nfs I think for the fileserver [23:14] if i can find them [23:14] yeah mailserver was one too [23:15] (don't know flavor, etc) [23:15] atouk: postfix [23:15] is it just a smtp-ish server or is it also imap.pop3 [23:15] found prelinux.cfg file length 0 [23:15] imap/pop3 [23:16] nah, not prelinux.cfg [23:16] peanutb: SMTP MTA [23:16] yours should be called syslinux.cfg [23:16] it's the boot loader used by a bootable cd [23:17] hmm. ok then [23:18] think i found it named default in folder prelinux.cfg [23:18] do they do any config at all? or is it just install packages? [23:18] configs everything on standard install. i used expert so i could set static ip [23:19] atouk: ah, yeah that actually might be it, I think you're right [23:19] answer a few qustions, reboot, server running [23:19] painless [23:21] i wish there was more documentation on this. I think im gonna see how i coulde get involved in makeing some [23:23] actually 2 default in seperate places [23:23] atouk, http://pastebin.ca/744948 [23:23] so... my question now is, will netboot be sufficient to install Ubuntu Server? [23:23] don't know [23:23] did cd install [23:23] I think we will know more by comparing the syslinux lines [23:24] accept dcc [23:25] atouk: okay, ready now [23:25] still not showing? [23:26] no, I'm not very competent with irssi DCC stuff [23:27] hold on i'll past a bit into a PM so you can tell if it's what you want [23:31] interesting, it also lists "cli" and "install" [23:31] so you picked "install" ? [23:33] did the expert install standard uses dhcp, experts lets you enter the ip [23:35] yeah I would think that installing Ubuntu Server via netboot would be a supported and documented configuration, when in fact I don't see support and there's no documentation [23:35] heh [23:36] maybe I have to shell out money to pay for company-line support :( [23:36] atouk: thank you for your help! [23:36] shy not just burn a cd? [23:36] no cd drive [23:37] rack servers? [23:37] yup [23:38] usb ports? [23:38] sure, I don't think booting from them works though [23:38] is there a way to install Server from USB? [23:39] if usb is a bootable device just get large capacity usb drive or a portable CD [23:40] of course if anything breaks, we never had this conversation [23:42] um. "lol" [23:42] /\ [23:43] : : : : : : : : :::: zoom [23:45] one little gotcha. if you want to use SWAT from a remote machine, you need to enable root logins [23:46] or use SSH tunneling like a sane person ;) [23:47] no disrespect meant [23:47] yeah but SWAT makes setting up samba painless [23:56] atouk: just to be clear, what I meant is setting up port forwarding via Secure Shell, so that when a user directs their web browser on the desktop machine at http://localhost:10861/ or whatever port is being forwarded to the remote host to connect to (remote host as localhost) on the port for SWAT, it would work [23:56] as if the user was on the server as a local machine user [23:57] simpler example is I have a web service on my server available only to loopback and port 3000, so I want this from my desktop, I port forward via SSH and set up 9999:localhost:3000, now on the desktop I go to http://localhost:9999/ and it works [23:57] haven't tried that. just that if you log on as a regular user, you can only see configuration info, you need to be able to log on a root to make changes [23:58] ohh that is true, I had not considered this [23:58] I wonder, is there some group the user needs to belong to for it to work? [23:59] may be able to do it, but since my machine is going to be insulated, it was just easier to make root account active [23:59] =)