[00:10] works =)) with some slight mods. [00:11] * Elite doesn't have Xubuntu :P [00:11] All I done was got Ubuntu, and just installed XFCE. [00:13] Anybody know what application the side widget is http://linuxinit.net/site/images/screenshots/0381.jpg <-- [00:13] the workspace switcher. [00:30] .desktop icons created with wine, for me, usually use icons that contain a ".0" on the end of the name. this works fine for gnome. an example line would be: "Icon=0e5b_winamp.0" - but this doesn't work in xubuntu. no icon shows up. if I add .xpm to the end, then the icon is visible in the file manager, but not on the desktop. how can I make this work normally? are there any escape characters I should be using or something? [01:03] do you know of a client (besides Mutt or any command line one) that can save messages in a maildir "way"? === l33t is now known as Thirteen-30-7 === Thirteen-30-7 is now known as xl33t === xl33t is now known as l33tx === l33tx is now known as Oday === Oday is now known as OhDay === OhDay is now known as Eleet === Eleet is now known as Ilite [01:25] xubuntu xubunta [03:14] How do I get GTK installed? I keep getting an "error: gtk/gtk.h: no such file or directory". [03:14] you have gtk installed [03:14] sudo apt-get install gtk2.0 I believe [03:14] you need gtk-dev [03:14] thanks [03:14] gtk2.0-dev [03:15] The-Kernel: that package doesn't exist [03:16] attunix, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev [03:16] thanks [03:17] wbadger: yep. that works :) [03:17] :) [03:17] I think... it's installing :P [03:17] I hope it works :) [03:17] lol [03:19] nope... doesn't work. [03:19] this is the code: [03:19] ¡ #include gtk/gtk.h [03:19] [03:19] int main( int [03:19] argc, [03:19] char *argv[] ) [03:19] { [03:19] GtkWidget *window; [03:19] gtk_init (&argc, &argv); [03:19] window = gtk_window_new (GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL); [03:19] gtk_widget_show (window); [03:19] gtk_main (); [03:19] return 0; [03:19] } [03:20] !pastebin [03:20] what doesn't work [03:20] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [03:20] what error do you get [03:20] sorry :( [03:20] do you still get no such file found? [03:20] that gtk/gtk.h doesn't exist [03:20] do "ls /usr/include/gtk" [03:21] ok [03:21] oh [03:21] ls: /usr/include/gtk: No such file or directory [03:21] that's right [03:21] what? [03:21] the package installs it in gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h [03:21] ok [03:21] how are you compiling? [03:21] gcc base.c -o base [03:22] ok then add an argument [03:22] I think it goes like this [03:22] gcc base.c -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/ -o base [03:22] that is a capital I after the "-" [03:22] ok [03:22] does it work? [03:22] hold on [03:23] base.c:1:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory [03:23] so I did something wrong [03:24] gcc base.c -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk -o base [03:24] try it ? [03:26] hold on. [03:27] same error [03:27] maybe should try like this: [03:27] gcc base.c -Igtk-2.0/gtk/ -o base [03:28] ok [03:28] same [03:29] same error [03:31] gcc -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk base.c -o base [03:31] it must work unless the package was not installed correctly [03:32] btw does your include line have <>? [03:32] oh wait we should remove the gtk [03:32] attunix, gcc base.c -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -o base [03:33] well, it did something... [03:34] it's trying to compile all the library files :P [03:34] very weird [03:34] are you sure? :O [03:34] tat's what it looks like [03:35] my code doesn't hvae 67 lines :P [03:35] I have no idea what's wrong [03:35] I still wonder why your #include lines lakcs <> though [03:36] it's #include [03:36] Hey, I just installed Xubuntu 7.10 and when I try to log in I get this message 'Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper program instead. Refusing to initialize GTK+." And then it kicks me back to the login page. Ideas? [03:50] Hey, I just installed Xubuntu 7.10 and when I try to log in I get this message 'Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper program instead. Refusing to initialize GTK+." And then it kicks me back to the login page. Ideas? [03:50] did you try to login as root? [03:54] i have not [03:55] was it a fresh install or an upgrade? [03:55] fresh install with a previous /home partition === illu45` is now known as illu45 [03:57] hmm [03:57] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=568189 [03:58] seems to be the same issue [03:59] do you know a way that I can log my processes? It tells me the process number, but the process is killed so I cannot just do a ps and look. [03:59] could be that your /home directory is owned by a different uid from your current login [03:59] possible, but unlikly [03:59] is your /home partition even mounted? [03:59] the old one [03:59] yea [04:02] when my /home partition wasnt mounted, i would login with a default session [04:03] okay, let me go try some things [04:33] does anyone here know Is it possible to password protect a "nautilus-actions" action? [04:44] nautilus is part of the default ubuntu GNOME desktop. xubuntu which uses Thunar. so you might get more answers in #ubuntu [04:45] -which [04:49] yeah no one ever answers in there [04:49] :C [04:49] aw [04:50] http://www.grumz.net/?q=taxonomy/term/2/9 [04:50] you could try some of the tutorials and support resources there [05:04] I tried enabling desktop compositing in Xubuntu 7.10 just to see if it would work and it didn't. I see my mouse cursor and the desktop. I could just reboot since I'm just using the live CD, but isn't there a key combo I could use to exit X, etc. to fix this? [05:06] i just installed xubuntu, and my only problem is my soundcard [05:06] i have a cmi8738 [05:12] Never mind. I just decided to reboot. [05:15] Scabdates that is a common sound chipset, isnt it supported? [05:15] thanks keb [05:15] im looking [05:16] I gotta figure out how to make one password protected [05:26] here are some details about tweaking cmi chipset support http://alsa.opensrc.org/Cmipci [06:51] anyone else having problem with adding network suport to thunar with fuse? [06:51] on gutsy? [06:52] im following the tutorial that use to work on festy and its not working :S [06:55] well thank you all, i guess its just really late for all of you guys [06:55] irc is 24/7 [06:56] keb can u help me? [06:56] not everyone has experience or expertise with every issue however ;) [06:56] by the way, hi keb! [06:56] hi [07:42] i am not getting the gdm on.. it just ends up in a grey screen with the mouse pointer... so i have to press ctrl alt f1 and log in in the CLi and type startx .. does anyone know why? [07:43] check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for details why [07:45] hmmm... keb what do i look for in that? [07:45] errors [07:46] well.. doesnt seem to have errors [07:47] ok then there is ~/.xsession-errors [07:47] but there might not be anything in there if you never got to login [07:48] yeah// i never got to.. never mind.. i dont dislike the CLI [07:48] thanks anyway === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [08:07] well.. keb .. i sorted that out [08:08] there was this strange thing called wacom in my xorg.conf.. so i did an nvidia-xconfig and restarted.. it works fine now.. [08:14] upgrading now but I guess it'll fail :) [08:14] why? [08:14] encrypted drives ;) [08:14] :-| .. you working at nasa or something? [08:15] why? [08:16] why do you need encrypted drives? [08:16] who is going to steal your info? [08:17] no clue, that's why I encrypt it [08:20] anyway.. for me dnt need privacy of data.. i care about safety :D .. my data is open source ;) [08:20] privacy is a right you should not under estimate [08:21] upgrading takes long... i probably should directly do a fresh install [08:22] hyper__ch: do you have a separate /home? [08:22] scriptdevil: sure I have [08:22] :D then carry on [08:23] i wanna check how it goes with the upgrade [08:23] bye people .. brb after my lunch [08:23] how it handles my luks/dm-crypt devices [08:28] how are you mounting your luks devices? [08:28] I have a luks home dir and it is fine... libpam_mount seems to be broke though [08:41] hi [08:42] hello? [08:56] hmm [08:56] should i count it a bad thing that gutsy fails to setup dma for hda in my ibook? [08:58] also booting took forever [09:00] including which NetworkManager is taking 100% cpu. i've had to kill it with signal 9 two times now [09:03] !screencast [09:03] Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts. [09:13] and btw, return from suspend still didn't work in gutsy final :/ [09:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/99675 apparently the same bug as this [09:15] Launchpad bug 99675 in gnome-power-manager "System incredibly slow after suspend, refuses to restart" [Undecided,New] === damike is now known as mike84 [09:33] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584631 [10:25] Hello, where is that hardlink/symlink mess with Feisty -> Gutsy updates documented a little, just got the recommended update to tzdata and didn't click the link in the update description.. [10:45] ah nm found it myself: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/116193 lucky me I had the timezone set to Berlin anyway.. [10:45] Launchpad bug 116193 in tzdata "error upgrading tzdata_2007e to tzdata_2007f" [Critical,Fix committed] [10:56] hello [11:30] i just installed ubuntu, and did an apt-get xubuntu, but the fonts are so huge, i can't select xbuntu desktop. [11:31] also, xubuntu splash screen not avaiable [12:06] my login screen's font is huge [12:06] how to fix? [13:15] my upgrade from xubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 crashed. how do i get it to upgrade properly? [13:21] ... [13:21] .... [13:21] hi [13:21] how do i fix it? [13:21] hi [13:21] mig5: what's the error? [13:22] do you like 7.10 then dapper [13:23] my upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 messed up [13:23] in my case using live 7.10 cd [13:24] can't install 1 program on live mode [13:24] and design issue ... [13:25] when i use console mode(tty) [13:25] chararcters size is bigger than dapper [13:26] mig5: I can't help you if you don't tell me some details. What is broken? What error you get and when? [13:28] TheSheep, 2nd one said update manager got to close [13:28] hello [13:29] TheSheep, and then it closed and update stopped halfway through [13:29] how can i display my windows xp in the boot list [13:29] how can i add entry on GRUB [13:29] keitherz: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst, there is an example there [13:29] edit menu.1st [13:30] oh ok [13:30] so when i installed linux it didn't automatically search for my xp [13:31] mig5: try switching to text mode with alt+ctrl+f1, logging in and typing 'sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade' [13:31] keitherz: this is strange [13:31] TheSheep, ok [13:31] it didn't detect my XP [13:37] ok help [13:38] wheres the sample [13:39] ok another thing [13:39] hello? [13:39] we are here [13:40] ok wheres the 1024x768 resolution [13:40] its not listed [13:41] keitherz: you only have lower ones listed? [13:41] yah [13:41] 800x600 and below [13:42] keitherz: seems like it detected your monitor wrong, try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and configuring it manually (just use defaults everywhere except for the monitor settings) [13:45] What libraries do I need installed to program in GTK?+ [13:45] attunix: what language do you program? [13:46] C [13:46] libgtk2.0-dev probably [13:47] hi - my xubuntu system is running well now, thanks to help from people in this channel. :) My next issue is wireless. It only shows options for WEP.. is WPA not available? [13:47] TheSheep: I already have that. [13:47] attunix: and if you use glade, then also libglade2-dev [13:47] MichaelTheNewbie: I'm not sure, but you might want to check the documentation [13:47] !wifi | MichaelTheNewbie [13:47] MichaelTheNewbie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [13:48] TheSheep: Thanks I will read up. [13:48] how can i continue here [13:49] keitherz: what do you mean? [13:49] i cant select OK [13:49] keitherz: press 'tab' to switch between controls [13:49] I keep getting an error that header file doesn't exist. [13:49] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [13:50] oh thanks [13:50] attunix: hmm.. that would be libgtk1.2-dev [13:51] attunix: I think [13:51] Use kernel framebuffer device interface? [13:51] what should i answer [13:51] keitherz: "no" [13:51] keitherz: just use teh defaults [13:51] keitherz: that is, hit 'enter' :) [13:52] TheSheep, i did that, it installed these 3 packages, 2 were a kernel and other was nvidia drivers. restarted into this new kernel and internet doesnt work, so went back on old one [13:52] whats the mous port [13:52] keitherz: hit enter === thijsdl is now known as hfsdo [13:52] keitherz: you want /dev/mice [13:53] dev/input/mice [13:53] │ /dev/ttyS0 │ [13:53] mig5: what network card do you use? [13:53] │ /dev/tts0 │ [13:53] │ /dev/gpmdata │ [13:53] │ │ [13:53] │ │ [13:53] │ │ [13:53] │ [13:53] TheSheep, asus usb wireless [13:53] even if my mouse is in USB [13:53] !patebin | keitherz [13:53] Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [13:53] !pastebin | keitherz [13:53] keitherz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [13:54] keitherz: yes, /dev/mice is a kind of sink for all the mice [13:54] ok tnx im searching for the ubuntu pastebin [13:55] keitherz: no, just remember to use it next time you want to paste more than, say, 3 lines [13:56] the 1024x768 is still not listed [13:56] mig5: try intalleing the 'restricted modules' for that new kernel [13:56] cant i configure it manually [13:56] keitherz: what graphics card do you use? (the first option in taht config) [13:57] nvidia [13:57] TheSheep, but asus didnt use restricted modules, that is the nvidia [13:58] mig5: ah, then I don't know [13:58] TheSheep, if i keep using this kernel, the feisty one, will it mess stuff up? [13:59] mig5: I guess you might try searching the forums and the bugs database [13:59] mig5: no, it shouldn't [13:59] TheSheep, ok, ill stick with this then for now [13:59] mig5: unless there is some horrible bug that would destroy your system anyways ;) [14:00] TheSheep: either way it doesn't work [14:00] Ive innstalled the new xubuntu from the live cd... And im having problems in the startup. Its not going further than the "Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd" [14:01] attunix: maybe try just searching synaptics for gtk.h ? [14:01] TheSheep: ok. I'll try that [14:02] $ dpkg -S gtk.h [14:02] libgtk2.0-dev: /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h [14:02] libgtk1.2-dev: /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gtk/gtk.h [14:02] I already have those installed :( [14:02] Is there any way to go around that service without doing it when xubuntu is started up? [14:05] RandyboY: you can disable it in system->services [14:05] RandyboY: try to start in the 'rescue mode' === Igorots is now known as Knightlust [14:46] when i upgraded to xub 7.10 miro was deleted; i've installed it from synaptic again, and selectd it from the installer, but it still doesn't appear on any of my menus ... anybody know where it might be hiding? [14:48] miro? [14:48] whats that [14:48] The new name of Democracy TV, right? [15:47] when i upgraded to xub 7.10 miro was deleted; i've installed it from synaptic again, and selectd it from the installer, but it still doesn't appear on any of my menus ... anybody know where it might be hiding? [15:49] mikubuntu, can you type "miro" in a terminal? [15:50] vinze, ya hold on [15:52] vinze, hmmmm, got a pop up that says i need to download a newer version of miro [15:52] Odd... [15:53] mikubuntu, does the file /usr/share/applications/miro.desktop exist? [15:53] i.e. can you do "mousepad /usr/share/applications/miro.desktop" in a terminal? [15:54] lemme try [16:01] hi folks [16:01] someone here who could help me w/ dual mon setup? [16:01] mosipov: what videocard? [16:01] radeon 9100 [16:02] with xubuntu 7.10 [16:02] it should be easy in 7.10 [16:02] I know [16:02] the issue is, the new displayconfig-gtk shows only 1 screen [16:03] xfce shows 2 screens for desktop setup [16:03] the xorg conf shows only screen 0 with my tft [16:03] it shows 2 screens here, but i only got 1 screen and 1 tv [16:03] and xrandr shows screen 0 with VGA0 and DVI0 [16:04] now I don't know how to get it work with 2 montiors [16:04] side by side just like in windows [16:07] d1n0: no hints? [16:08] I think, I have to edit the xorg.conf? [16:08] you can use aticonfig to configure i think [16:08] I tried to install [16:08] apt-get doesnt know it [16:09] holf on [16:09] hold on [16:09] found it [16:10] installitng fglrx [16:13] vinze, sorry so long: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41532/ [16:14] ooops, guess vinze has left the building [16:15] anybody willing to look at my pastebin and tell me why i can't find miro on my menus? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41532/ [16:21] d1n0: I tried aticonfig [16:21] it terminated with a core dump [16:33] sorr,y, got kicked [16:33] so anyone ideas [17:00] how do i completely remove xubuntu from my system or any other ubuntu version [17:04] blendtux: delete the partitions and restore mbr [17:06] ano lol, that was not what i meant, i have two systems one is my desktop and the other my laptop both running kubuntu, but i installed on both xubuntu-desktop but i want to remove on my desktop xubuntu-desktop and stick only with kubuntu-desktop [17:07] but when i do apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop it will not remove all the packages it installed for xubuntu-desktop [17:07] blendtux: do an 'autoremove' after that [17:08] it only wants to autoremove 1 package [17:08] blendtux: it will remove any packages that are no logner needed [17:08] blendtux: what do you want to remove, by the way? [17:10] it downloaded something like 260 mb of packages, and the installation of xubuntu costs something like 800 mb, and now when i want to remove it it says this: [17:10] root@blendtux-laptop:/var/cache/apt/archives# apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop [17:10] Reading package lists... Done [17:10] Building dependency tree [17:10] Reading state information... Done [17:10] The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: [17:10] !pastebin | blendtux [17:10] blendtux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [17:10] portmap [17:10] Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. [17:10] The following packages will be REMOVED: [17:10] xubuntu-desktop [17:10] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [17:10] Need to get 0B of archives. [17:10] After unpacking 41.0kB disk space will be freed. [17:10] Do you want to continue [Y/n]? [17:10] oh sorry TheSheep [17:11] i will use that link in the future [17:11] but anyway, it now only wants to remove 41 kb/s [17:11] alll the other apps it installed wont be removed [17:11] maybe you should just remove the pps you don't need? [17:11] apps [17:12] are you telling me,. that i have to remove everything the xubuntu-desktop metapkackge installed by hand ? [17:13] blendtux: just removing xubuntu-desktop should work, the rest would b autoremoved, unless you installed it manually [17:13] blendtux: if not, file a bug [17:13] no i did not, install somethbing by hand [17:14] look at it what i pasted [17:14] is there some way to tweak my laptop so it doesn't swap as much [17:14] blendtux: then there is something wrong with apt not recording which packages were installed manually [17:14] it seems to constantly be reading from the disk [17:15] soulfreshner: you could put more memory into it [17:15] soulfreshner: or just look at which applications take the most memory [17:15] soulfreshner: and find lighter alternatives [17:16] soulfreshner: you can also disable some services taht start by default but you don't use them [17:16] TheSheep, it's an old laptop with 256MB ram / p3 1000 - so not quite over the hill and running xubuntu's default stuff [17:16] no i dont think so TheSheep, i think there is nothing wrong with app, i think the problem is with the meta package, its a oneway trip [17:16] how do I turn the swap off? [17:17] you can install but you cant remove all the packages the metapackage installed [17:17] in an automated fashion [17:17] soulfreshner: sudo swapoff -a [17:17] blendtux, you should be able to use apt-get autoremove... [17:18] blendtux: either way, file a bug please [17:18] how does autoremove know's that i dont want or need abiword, wich is insatlled by the metapackage xubuntu-desktop or that i dont need all the gnome libs it installed [17:18] blendtux: because it should work [17:19] blendtux: it remembers what was instaleld manually and what was pulled in as a dependency [17:19] ta - TheSheep - I'm going to run like this for a while and see if it helps at all... chances are it may even be slower, since the swap is cached... [17:20] oke, and does it matter that i installed it with the command aptitude install xubuntu-desktop [17:20] soulfreshner: no, in the worst case it will just start killing aps randomly when you run out of memory [17:20] blendtux: either use apt-get or aptitude [17:20] blendtux: yes [17:20] blendtux: I would recommend aptitude as it works better [17:20] blendtux: aptitude doesn't have this function [17:20] blendtux, yeah - it will only keep the dependancies of the stuff you manually installed [17:21] TheSheep: aptitude always had that function [17:21] TheSheep: apt-get copied it from there [17:21] h3sp4wn: but the database is separate from apt's [17:21] h3sp4wn: so apt-get autoremove will not work if soemhting was installed with aptitude [17:21] TheSheep: yeah but you wouldn't use apt-get autoremove if you were using aptitude [17:22] but how can i remove all those other packages [17:22] h3sp4wn: unless you are especially fond of complaining that something is a one way trip [17:22]