[02:58] <sydhart> Hi - I'm structuring a new Launchpad project with subprojects and need some pointers
[03:04] <sydhart> Looking at Python & Mono, Launchpad has super-projects 'python-project' and 'mono-project' - I'm guessing this is the recommended way do things?
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[03:22] <nosrednaekim> sorry if this is a dumb question, but I have a folder with a modified version of a program that I want to publish to my branch that I just registered, I see the reccomended bzr command to run, but where do I execute this command?
[03:23] <kiko-fud> sydhart, it depends on exactly what you are doing. I'd suggest posting a question up in answers.launchpad.net and I'll take a look at it.
[03:23] <kiko-fud> I need to sleep 
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[03:23] <kiko-zzz> nosrednaekim, in your tree, I guess. bzr add <directory>, for instance?
[03:24] <kiko-zzz> nosrednaekim, oh, is this the first time you are pushing your work?
[03:24]  * nosrednaekim decides he needsto attend the Open Week seminar ;)
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> kiko-zzz: yeah
[03:28] <sydhart> kiko: thanks, I'm writing to Christian now - it's a rare sort of question
[03:35] <gnomefreak> is there anyway to get a deleted branch back?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> or better yet how to push with bzr+ssh, everytime i run that command it fails saying bash: bzr+ssh://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x: No such file or directory 
[03:38] <gnomefreak> or how do i run --create-prefix with bzr+ssh
[03:39] <spiv> gnomefreak: --create-prefix isn't needed, that stopped being relevant months ago.
[03:40] <spiv> gnomefreak: You need to run "bzr push bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x"
[03:40] <spiv> Oops, I mean:
[03:40] <spiv> gnomefreak: You need to run "bzr push bzr+ssh://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x"
[03:42] <gnomefreak> ah thats why
[03:42] <gnomefreak> spiv: ty
[03:42] <spiv> gnomefreak: you're welcome
[03:45] <gnomefreak> thats not good
[03:45] <gnomefreak> spiv: when pushing i get bzr: ERROR: Generic bzr smart protocol error: <Fault 8002: 'error'>
[03:49] <spiv> gnomefreak: ugh, right.
[03:50] <spiv> gnomefreak: that error message will get much better shortly.
[03:50] <gnomefreak> spiv: ok cool ty
[03:50] <spiv> gnomefreak: in the meantime
[03:51] <gnomefreak> hm?
[03:51] <spiv> gnomefreak: actually, I'm not sure why you'd be getting that error.
[03:51]  * spiv looks
[03:52] <spiv> gnomefreak: what happens if you use "bzr push sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x" instead?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> i think i figured it out give me a minute and ill let you know
[03:53] <spiv> Ok.
[03:54] <gnomefreak> python-paramiko was missing
[03:54] <spiv> Hmm.
[03:54] <spiv> That shouldn't cause that error.
[03:55] <gnomefreak> it caused the bzr push sftp error i got though
[03:55] <gnomefreak> yep its pushing maybe the dir was corrupt but i moved /debian/ to another build and it seems to be pushing with just bzr push
[03:56] <spiv> Ah, right, yes "bzr push sftp://..." needs paramiko.
[03:56] <spiv> sftp:// should not work if bzr+ssh:// didn't, though.  I was just hoping for a more helpful error.
[03:57] <gnomefreak> maybe im missing a bzr package for bzr+ssh?
[03:58] <spiv> No, it's a problem on the server.
[03:58] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[03:58] <spiv> I'm not sure what problem it is, but I think it'll probably be fixed in the next launchpad update, which tidies the relevant code.
[03:59] <spiv> At the very least, it'll give better error messages.
[04:00] <gnomefreak> cool
[04:00] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:07] <gnomefreak> wtf is up with Lp
[04:07] <gnomefreak> or bzr :(
[04:07] <gnomefreak> nvm that was my fault
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #155677 in launchpad "branches are shown in the owner's context, rather than the project's" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155677
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[08:51] <carlos_> morning
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[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #155690 in malone "Have +distrotask default to [blank], *not* 'Baltix'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155690
[09:38] <baltix> SteveA: Labas
[09:43] <baltix> doko: hi
[09:43] <baltix> lamont: hi
[09:44] <baltix> doko, lamont: are you informed, that samarium (xen-i386 build server) isn't working ? 
[09:45] <baltix> elmo: or I should inform you, that samarium (xen-i386 build server) isn't working ? 
[09:51] <Hobbsee> sabdfl: poke
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #155707 in launchpad "Inconsistencies in terms and processes for {approv,accept}ing/declining various types of nomination" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155707
[10:16] <Ng> can I get LP to mail me a whole bug? I'd like to collect a few to triage on a long flight this week
[10:17] <Fujitsu> Ng: Haha, that would be too easy. I'm sure you can screenscrape with a bit of work.
[10:18] <Ng> sure, I could just tell firefox to save the page, but it'd be very cool if I could get it to send me an email with the report, comments and attachments :)
[10:21] <Hobbsee> Ng: subscribe to the bug?  but that doesnt do attachments, iirc
[10:22] <Fujitsu> Yeah, attachments aren't email attachments, either inbound or outbound.
[10:22]  * Fujitsu notes the Malone XML-RPC spec turned 2 yesterday.
[10:23] <Ng> Hobbsee: that'll only send me individual emails when the bug stage changes - I want to triage a load of Incomplete X bugs
[10:23] <Ng> but no matter, I can save the pages :)
[10:23] <Ng> s/stage/state/
[10:23] <Hobbsee> Ng: ahhh
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #155721 in launchpad-bazaar "branch listing sorting by date created, recent changes backwards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155721
[10:51] <Hobbsee> is there any way aorund the +packages timeouts?
[10:51] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Turn off the redirection for two hours.
[10:51] <Fujitsu> Or use staging for outdated stuff.
[10:52] <Hobbsee> ah, thanks
[11:03] <Fujitsu> Can some sysadminish person please bounce the PPA buildd queuing daemon?
[11:10] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: a guy tried that before.  you might want to file a rt ticket
[11:11] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Perhaps.
[11:11] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: or find an employee, and get them to escalate it thru there
[11:11] <Fujitsu> They're probably largely asleep.
[11:12]  * Fujitsu pokes Ng ^^
[11:14] <Ng> Fujitsu: what's up with it?
[11:15] <Hobbsee> Ng: it's timing out
[11:17] <Hobbsee> Ng: (samarium)
[11:19] <Ng> samarium looks to be building fine
[11:21] <Ng> I re-enabled it about an hour ago - I figured Fujitsu was talking about something else
[11:28] <Fujitsu> Ng: Some PPA builds are still Pending after >12 hours.
[11:32] <Ng> Fujitsu: I would think thats just becaue the i386 PPA builder was disabled yesterday
[11:32] <Fujitsu> Ah, they're done now, it seems.
[11:33] <Fujitsu> Shouldn't they have gone to Needs Building, though?
[11:36] <baltix> Fujitsu: hi
[11:36] <Ng> Fujitsu: not sure tbh, I doubt it, but I'd have to refer you to cprov or other LP guys for that kinda stuff
[11:39] <Fujitsu> Ng: Yeah, I was going to talk to him when he appeared.
[11:39] <Fujitsu> baltix: Hi...
[11:40] <baltix> maybe you know why status of this build - https://launchpad.net/~baltix-members/+archive/+build/412683 is still pending, while other my builds (which are queued later than empathy) are already finished...
[11:41] <Fujitsu> baltix: The queueing was stuffed until not more than an hour or so ago, so the order will likely be a bit off, and there is a backlog.
[11:48] <baltix> Fujitsu: so, I should just wait ?
[11:55] <Fujitsu> baltix: Correct.
[11:55] <Fujitsu> As there's only one i386 buildd, it could take a while.
[11:59] <Fujitsu> Hi cprov.
[12:01] <Fujitsu> Would samarium being dead cause PPA i386 builds to remain Pending until more than an hour after its revival?
[12:01] <cprov> Fujitsu: let me check.
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[12:02] <cprov> Fujitsu: certainly,  it's the only i386-ppa builder :(
[12:03] <cprov> Fujitsu: but it seems to be building regularly, https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/samarium/+history
[12:03] <kiko> cprov, except for last night when it was jammed :)
[12:05] <Fujitsu> cprov: I thought they would be moving to Needs Building anyway.
[12:05] <Fujitsu> Also, is there any global PPA +builds?
[12:08] <cprov> Fujitsu: no, there is not global PPA +builds yet.
[12:09] <Fujitsu> That would be useful, otherwise there's little indicator of the backlog.
[12:16] <cprov> Fujitsu: right, could you please file a bug ?
[12:17] <kiko> is there not a bug filed on that already?
[12:20] <Fujitsu> I haven't seen one, so I'll file it now.
[12:23] <baltix> Fujitsu: hey, my build was successfully finished :)
[12:24] <Fujitsu> baltix: Ah, good.
[12:32] <danboid> I've tried submitting a bug/ package request to launchpad but all I get is 'There has been 1 error' but it doesn't say what!
[12:32] <danboid> Am I not permitte to report bugs / package requests??
[12:33] <danboid> anyone know what this error could be?
[12:33] <Fujitsu> danboid: If you scroll down, it should have highlighted something...
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #155758 in soyuz "Global PPA +builds would be useful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155758
[12:37] <jordi> hmm, no sabdfl
[12:46] <kiko> danboid, what did you type into the fields? what URL are you at?
[12:47] <danboid> kiko: Its OK- problem seems to be solved now thanks!
[12:59] <lamont> baltix: down machines? elmo.  build issues? infinity or myself
[13:02] <liri> kiko: morning
[13:03] <kiko> morning liri 
[13:03] <liri> kiko: any news on that format-specific translations support?
[13:03] <kiko> danilos, carlos: hey there
[13:03] <carlos> kiko: hi
[13:03] <danilos> hi kiko
[13:03] <carlos> liri: which format are you interested on?
[13:03] <kiko> danilos, carlos: can you talk to liri about his request? he's looking for more information on alternative translation formats
[13:04] <danilos> kiko: I've put carlos on it, don't worry :)
[13:04] <carlos> liri: we have the infrastructure in place to handle that
[13:04] <carlos> liri: so is just a matter of implement a concrete file format
[13:04] <carlos> we have partial support for Firefox already implemented
[13:04] <carlos> and OO.org will follow next
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[13:12] <baltix> lamont: my builds was successfully finished today:) - someone fixed the problems
[13:30] <liri> kiko: sorry was away
[13:34] <liri> carlos: my language file looks much like this: $l['var']['var'] = "some var" etc... there are also occasions of $l['var']['var']['var'] = "some var also"
[13:35] <carlos> liri: is that your own file format?
[13:43]  * carlos -> lunch
[13:52] <liri> carlos: yeap
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[14:53] <mrevell> popey: ping
[14:54] <popey> mrevell: pong
[14:54] <mrevell> popey: Dude, what's your LP username?
[14:54] <mrevell> popey: Well, I know what it is but
[14:54] <mrevell> popey: there's a popey username too. Is that also you?
[14:55] <popey> no
[14:55] <popey> alanpope is me
[14:55] <mrevell> popey: Do you mind if use your profile as an example in my Introduction to Launchpad session? I wonder if it looks a bit self-absorbed for me to use my own :)
[14:56] <Nafallo> hhaa
[14:56] <popey> heh
[14:56] <popey> sure
[14:56] <Nafallo> haha even
[14:56] <Nafallo> :-)
[14:57]  * popey will submit some bugs with goatse images in them in time for your session
[14:57] <mrevell> popey: hehe, thanks
[15:05] <mrevell> popey: Do you mind if my presentation has a small story in which we work together on a blueprint for a new Ubuntu app that tracks Elvis impersonators? :-)
[15:08] <Daviey> "Maybe you aren't treating him quite as good as you should be".. Elvs
[15:09] <Nafallo> lol
[15:13] <popey> sure mrevell 
[15:13] <popey> this is at 6pm today (our time) ?
[15:15] <Hobbsee> hm, i should log those sessions
[15:15]  * popey is logging them if that helps - without joins/parts/nicks
[15:16] <Hobbsee> excellent!
[15:16] <Hobbsee> popey: where will they be?
[15:22] <Hobbsee> @now
[15:22] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 22 2007, 14:22:06 - Next meeting: Server Team in 1 day
[15:22] <popey> hmmm
[15:22] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/%23ubuntu-classroom.log
[15:22] <Hobbsee> bwah?  that's weird
[15:22] <popey> where would you like them?
[15:22] <Hobbsee> oh, not you, sorry
[15:22] <Hobbsee> just the timezone thing
[15:22] <popey> heh
[15:22] <popey> oh
[15:22] <Hobbsee> either bot is wrong, or neither london nor germany are on utc time
[15:23] <popey> correct
[15:23] <popey> we aren't
[15:23] <Hobbsee> isnt germany usually on utc?
[15:23] <popey> London is on BST (UTC+1) and Germaany is on EST (UTC+2) IIRC
[15:23] <Hobbsee> hm, kay
[15:23] <popey> sorry CEST
[15:25] <Hobbsee> popey: are you going to split them per day?
[15:26] <popey> i guess i can, yes
[15:26] <Hobbsee> popey: are you on ops duty for today?
[15:26] <popey> don't think so
[15:27] <Hobbsee> popey: i think you're now delegated
[15:27] <popey> O RLY?
[15:27] <Hobbsee> damn, calling !ops is really effective :)
[15:28] <Hobbsee> popey: melissa and i arent sticking around to fix it tonight, i dont think
[15:28] <popey> "it"?
[15:29] <Hobbsee> popey: giving out ops, moderating the chanenl, etc.
[15:29] <Hobbsee> besides, i've not forgotten jono saying that what i was doing was effectively useless.  or something like that.
[15:30] <popey> i bet I dont even have ops in -classroom
[15:30] <Hobbsee> you do
[15:30] <popey> damnit
[15:30] <popey> </jack_bauer>
[15:30] <Hobbsee> popey: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-classroom list
[15:30] <Hobbsee> could give mrevell ops though
[15:30] <mrevell> Hmph?
[15:31]  * popey drags Hobbsee over to -ops
[15:31] <Hobbsee> mrevell: the open week
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[16:20] <ubotu> New bug: #155838 in launchpad "Indicate a duplicate bugwatch after editing it" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155838
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[16:33] <carlos> liri: hi, I'm back from lunch
[16:34] <carlos> liri: is that file a php file? at least it looks like that...
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[17:38] <jhancock__> is anyone here that I can talk to about feature implemention?
[17:38] <jhancock__> I would just like to see a importance value of none
[17:38] <jhancock__> to go along with the Won't fix Status
[17:43] <mrevell> jhancock__: Hey, sorry I'm tied up for the next hour and a half. message me or email feedback@launchpad.net. Alternatively, join us on the launchpad-users list.
[17:43] <jhancock__> all right
[17:43] <jhancock__> I email you
[17:45] <mrevell> thanks
[17:54] <jsk> LaserJock: ping
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[18:21] <jhancock__> mrevell: I sent it to feedback@launchpad.net but I got an error messege back, so i sent it directly to launchpad-feedback@lists.launchpad.net
[18:21] <jhancock__> I think it went through
[18:21] <jhancock__> this time
[18:21] <mrevell> You got an error message? Could you forward the message to me personally, please? matthew.revell@canonical.com
[18:23] <jhancock__> I emailed it
[18:47] <bigon> hi, is it normal that I have a +junk directory in my bzr repository? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bigon/
[19:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
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[19:43] <desertc> Question about Launchpad: Can the Blueprint tab be used for non-technical project tracking, for example projects within an Ubuntu Local Community team?  I head the #ubuntu-classroom talk, and I was struck how I had never seen a LoCo use blueprints before.
[19:46] <mpt> desertc, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-ohio
[19:49] <EtAlors> re
[19:52] <desertc> mpt, rapid, Thanks
[19:58] <gnomefreak> is there a problem with PPA not building packages?
[19:58] <gnomefreak> its failing (after it passes here)
[19:59] <gnomefreak> testing to see if its me or bzr bd
[20:01] <lifeless> SteveA: you pung
[20:04] <SteveA> lifeless: unping then
[20:04] <desertc> So, in the Launchpad Blueprint, how does one define a specification?
[20:04] <desertc> For example, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-us-ohio-f2f/+spec/ohio-cd-materials
[20:07] <lifeless> SteveA: ok :)
[20:09] <desertc> I think there is a dead link at :
[20:09] <desertc> https://help.launchpad.net/WritingGoodSpecifications
[20:09] <desertc> Under Launchpad Specification Template
[20:17] <liri> carlos_: yeah it's a php file
[20:18] <carlos_> liri: then, is simple, use phpgettext
[20:18] <carlos_> liri: that will allow you to use Launchpad and you will not need to care about translation details too much in your application
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[20:19] <geser> gnomefreak: what error did you got?
[20:19] <carlos> liri: I mean, you will be able to use launchpad right now, as we already support gettext file format
[20:19] <gnomefreak> geser: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10115516/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-amd64.iceape_1.1.5-1ubuntu0.7.10%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:19] <gnomefreak> thats the 386 failure im building it here to see if its me or not
[20:20] <gnomefreak> i get same error with hardy bzr bd
[20:23] <geser> on a first glance it looks like an error in the package
[20:23] <gnomefreak> geser: thats why im testing here again
[20:23] <gnomefreak> but it built fine lastnight
[20:24] <gnomefreak> i will let you know what i find
[20:25] <ubotu> New bug: #155921 in soyuz "copy-package cannot copy between archives" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155921
[20:27] <desertc> How do I create a Launchpad specification?
[20:27] <desertc> (to be used in a Blueprint)
[20:33] <stdin> desertc: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/<PROJECT>/+addspec (or just click the "Blueprints" on the project page)
[20:34] <desertc> stdin: Click "Blueprints" and then what to add the spec ?
[20:35] <stdin> then click "Register a blueprint"
[20:37] <desertc> I do not see that link.
[20:44] <jonatin> gnomefreak, make sure that you are following "ogre"... that killed my packages, I was building something in main but it had a dependency in universe... built fine in pbuilder and failed in the i386 build on my PPA
[20:44] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[20:44] <gnomefreak> jonatin: well cant be since its failing here now anyway
[20:45] <gnomefreak> im trying without bzr bd but i think its the tarball
[20:45] <jonatin> shucks!  that woulda been too easy, eh?
[20:45] <gnomefreak> yeah
[20:45] <gnomefreak> im not understanding since it built fine 12 hours ago
[20:45] <gnomefreak> and i havent changed my chroot since the build
[20:46] <jonatin> did you dist-upgrade to gutsy?  They pulled one of my dependencies out and that killed my build
[20:46] <gnomefreak> jonatin: my chroot has always been a gutsy one
[20:46] <gnomefreak> it hasnt changed in 2 days
[20:47] <gnomefreak> purposly
[20:48] <jonatin> when the gutsy repository pulled out libgda2-dev it killed my build, inside the chroot because gdebi couldn't find a candidate... but that's a pretty specific error, you'd see that right off...
[20:48] <jonatin> I've been fighting with this for about a week, so I feel your pain, even if the issues are unrelated
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #155929 in soyuz "'lp-query-distro.py development' doesn't report frozen releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155929
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[21:05] <desertc> mrevell: After your presentation, I was trying to figure out how to use Blueprints for my projects.  Can you help?
[21:05] <mrevell> desertc: I'd be happy to try :)
[21:06] <desertc> I see now how I can use blueprints and specifications for organizing projects in teams, but I do not understand the mechanics to do so.
[21:06] <kiko> mrevell, has he checked out the feature highlights yet? :)
[21:06] <mrevell> kiko: Good call :)
[21:07] <mrevell> desertc: here's our quick introduction to Launchpad's features and how they all fit together:
[21:07] <mrevell> desertc: https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/
[21:07] <mrevell> desertc: Specifically, here's the blueprint section:
[21:07] <mrevell> https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/BlueprintReleasePlanning
[21:07] <desertc> For example, I started a new project to get a general membership, and I would like to create a blueprint for an actual project, so we can start assigning tasks.
[21:08] <mrevell> What's your project name?
[21:08] <desertc> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu.students/
[21:09] <kiko> that's a team
[21:09] <kiko> :)
[21:09] <mrevell> yeah, what kiko said :)
[21:09] <desertc> Can I create a blueprint for a team?
[21:10] <mrevell> Well, tell me a bit more about what you want to achieve and I'll help you use Launchpad to do it. What's the blueprint for?
[21:10] <desertc> Or do I need to associate a project with this team, and then assign a blueprint?
[21:10] <thumper> desertc: you create a blueprint for a project, and assign it to a team
[21:11] <desertc> thumper: That must be where my disconnect is.
[21:14] <desertc> I have been using wikis for this same purpose, of organizing team plans and getting involvement.
[21:14] <desertc> I heard about blueprints, and it seemed like just what we were creating with wikis, in my LoCo and other "teams".
[21:15] <LeRoutier> Hello
[21:15] <desertc> I guess I now need to figure out "projects" and tying them to the "team".
[21:16] <desertc> Is there a reference page for this, since I don't see it on the highlights you linked?
[21:16] <LeRoutier> I'd like to know who's responsible for accepting or rejecting membership for launchpad beta team ?
[21:16] <mrevell> desertc: With a blueprint, you can continue to use a wiki to store the meat of your blueprint's information - e.g. detailed implementation stuff.
[21:17] <mrevell> LeRoutier: That's me,
[21:17] <mrevell> LeRoutier: Are you looking for approval?
[21:17] <LeRoutier> yep
[21:17] <LeRoutier> I did register on the website not too long ago, it was 2007-10-19 18:15:56 CEST
[21:17] <mrevell> LeRoutier: What's your Launchpad username?
[21:18] <LeRoutier> leroutier
[21:18] <LeRoutier> I asked one primarily to have my PPA activated
[21:18] <LeRoutier> for now, I had to set up a repo on my own server
[21:18] <mrevell> LeRoutier: Just a moment. I'll take a look. I have a small backlog from the weekend, still.
[21:19] <LeRoutier> and as I only have access to a amd64 box, only packages for this arch, not for x86
[21:19] <LeRoutier> ok, thanks
[21:19] <lifeless> LeRoutier: you can build x86 on amd64 easily
[21:19] <desertc> Launchpad revolves around code-base projects so much, it is difficult to navigate for non-technical projects, like LoCos.  Wish there was a Launchpad informational resource that didn't get mired in "CVS", "branches", and "versioning" terminology.
[21:19] <lifeless> LeRoutier: its documented on the ubuntu wiki, and the #ubuntu-motu folk can help too.
[21:19] <LeRoutier> oh, sorry, didn't see it
[21:20] <mrevell> desertc: That's an interesting comment. I'm working on plans for a complete revamp of Launchpad docs etc at the moment.
[21:20] <mrevell> LeRoutier: What's your Launchpad display name?
[21:20] <LeRoutier> leroutier/Stéphane Loeuillet
[21:20] <LeRoutier> https://edge.launchpad.net/~leroutier/
[21:24] <mrevell> LeRoutier: Welcome to the beta team :)
[21:25] <LeRoutier> mrevell, thanks
[21:25] <LeRoutier> trying to dput *changes soon
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #155946 in launchpad "Project overview doesn't show which license the project uses" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155946
[21:37] <sabdfl> evening all
[21:38] <daniel_ki> hi
[21:39] <lifeless> hi sabdfl 
[21:39] <harrisony> its sabdfl !
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[21:49] <thumper> hi sabdfl
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #155956 in soyuz "+me/+packages should present different sections for sponsored uploads" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155956
[22:03] <LeRoutier> Any ETA for git support in launchpad ? (I'm fed up of account maintainance/admin stuff at fd.o)
[22:03] <sabdfl> hey guys
[22:03] <sabdfl> LeRoutier: for the moment at least we think bzr will get fast enough to handle all but the very largest projects
[22:03] <sabdfl> what's the biggest project you're working on at fd.o?
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[22:04] <LeRoutier> swfdec
[22:04] <LeRoutier> Company is fed up applying my patches
[22:04] <LeRoutier> he should just have to pull
[22:05] <sabdfl> indeed - this stuff all gets better with good tools and processes
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #155961 in blueprint "Export attendees feature should be linkes in Meeting Actions" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155961
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #155962 in launchpad "Superfluous message from email not hidden" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155962
[22:07] <sabdfl> LeRoutier: swfdec seems pretty small, bar could handle it very easily
[22:07] <sabdfl> erk
[22:07] <sabdfl> bzr
[22:07] <lifeless> haha
[22:07] <sabdfl> hey lifeless!
[22:07] <lifeless> hola sabdfl
[22:08] <lifeless> 4 sleeps
[22:08] <sabdfl> :-)
[22:12] <LeRoutier> first two source packages approved by PPA
[22:36] <LeRoutier> back
[22:56] <ubotu> New bug: #155978 in launchpad "Answers system does not allow prioritisation of call" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155978
[22:56] <imbrandon> i know you cant give any kinda of definate awnser at all but you know when PPA package removal "might"/"possibly" hit edge ?
[22:59] <matsubara> imbrandon: you mean bug 128127?
[22:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128127 in soyuz "remove-package should work for PPAs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128127 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)
[22:59] <imbrandon> matsubara, yes, thanks
[23:00] <matsubara> imbrandon: so, it was scheduled to this release and it's in progress. likely to land in the next release then next month
[23:06] <sabdfl> lifeless: packs before departure?
[23:06] <lifeless> sabdfl: I certainly hope so
[23:07] <lifeless> the review didn't turn up any showstoppers
[23:07] <lifeless> so its being worked through at the moment
[23:38] <LeRoutier> Who should I ask to become a project driver and bug contact ? (https://launchpad.net/swfdec)
[23:39] <LeRoutier> orphan project for now
[23:43] <thumper> LeRoutier: there is some generic registrant user but I can't remember the name
[23:43] <LeRoutier> ~registry ?
[23:44] <LeRoutier> ok, there are 4 members in it
[23:45] <LeRoutier> matsubara is one of them, but he's gone
[23:45] <LeRoutier> ddaa, are you around ?
[23:46] <ddaa> hello
[23:47] <ddaa> Can do it. Mind if I ask you about your credentials?
[23:47] <LeRoutier> ddaa, hi. I'd like to become driver and bug contact guide for swfdec
[23:47] <LeRoutier> no problem, what do you need ?
[23:48] <ddaa> first, your launchpad account name :)
[23:48] <LeRoutier> 'leroutier'
[23:48] <LeRoutier> I can gpg sign something for you to prove it if you'd like
[23:49] <stdin> we'll need you're passport and DNA sample too :p
[23:49] <stdin> s/you're/your/
[23:49] <LeRoutier> no problem for the passport + id card, I have both versions scanned in a pdf file ;)
[23:50] <LeRoutier> for DNA, would be harder, have to sequence it
[23:50] <ddaa> I see you are a bit active in Launchpad
[23:50] <LeRoutier> and I'm taking back swfdec* packaging for both deb & ubuntu
[23:50] <LeRoutier> as ds retires from this role
[23:50] <LeRoutier> David Schleef (ds@debian.org)
[23:51] <ddaa> Oh, that sounds nice.
[23:51] <LeRoutier> new packages already in my PPA
[23:51] <ddaa> nice
[23:52] <ddaa> LeRoutier: coungrats, you are now the owner of the swfdec project on Launchpad
[23:52] <LeRoutier> would change versioning to 1ubuntu1 once ds has uploaded my 0.5.1 to deb (sponsored upload until I have my gpg account signed by a DD)
[23:53] <LeRoutier> ok, thanks, that was fast
[23:53] <ddaa> you can set the bug contact yourself if you wish, but you should already receive all the bugspam by virtue of being the owner.
[23:53] <LeRoutier> k. I already registered as it for each source package depending on it
[23:53] <LeRoutier> but would be cleaner this way
[23:54] <ddaa> It's a simple operation, the questions were mostly to see how serious you were about it.
[23:54] <ddaa> Registry is really a placeholder owner for things owned by nobody, so we're not very anal about transferring things to community members who are likely to take care of them.
[23:56]  * ddaa sees a bunch of packaging links
[23:56] <ddaa> That's dedication dude :)
[23:56] <ddaa> On of my tasks for the next few cycles will be fixing the packaging-link UI.
[23:59] <LeRoutier> I did what's necessary in the swfdec-mozilla package to be compatible with Ubufox
[23:59] <LeRoutier> (plugin finder for firefox)