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asacUbulette: nothing from my side ... its uploaded et al00:01
asacUbulette: its just that it couldn't be build on friday because of archive work00:01
Ubuletteok00:02
asaci don't like it as well00:02
asaci spend lots of time backporting preparing this in time and now we release late00:02
asacbut well ... nothing we can change00:02
Ubulettei think i'm gonna stop seeding gutsy00:03
Ubulettei've done 300G+ in 2 days00:04
Ubuletteslowing down now00:04
Ubulettewished to push 1T but that will take forever00:05
asachehe00:08
asaci think 300G is enough00:08
Ubulettethat's only ~430 CDs00:09
* gnomefreak thinks i should add autoconf2.13 as a buiold-dep :(00:18
gnomefreaki just noticed it wasnt there00:19
asacgnomefreak: the principal idea of 99_configure is to not have that build-dep00:20
asac:)00:20
gnomefreakah00:20
gnomefreakok00:20
gnomefreakdid you update debian yet?00:21
asacdebian ?00:21
asaciceape?00:21
gnomefreakiceape00:21
* gnomefreak == ginny pig00:22
asaci tried it 40 min ago :) ... its the last missing00:22
asacdebian has 1.0.x00:22
gnomefreakah ok00:22
asacnot 1.1.x00:22
asaci failed because the tarball didn't have  a calendar ... and debian still supports the calendar for 1.0.x00:23
gnomefreakok conf looks like it is still working on updating it00:23
gnomefreakasac: ha ha00:23
gnomefreakasac: drop it from debian00:23
gnomefreakwe can push sunbird in00:23
gnomefreaki hope this works00:24
asacyeah ... just drop it in a security update ... that would set new standards :)00:24
gnomefreak:)00:24
gnomefreakis this for a stable release?00:24
asacyes00:25
gnomefreakah ok00:25
asaci don't do unstable iceape00:25
gnomefreaki thought this was for lemmy00:25
gnomefreaklenny00:25
gnomefreakmike does?00:25
asaci hope :)00:25
asaci currnetly don't have much time to do unstable debian work00:25
gnomefreaksomeone should00:25
gnomefreakyeah unstable ubuntu work keeps you busy00:25
Ubuletteasac, do you know what mike's plan for ff3/xul1.9 ?00:26
asacUbulette: i honestly don't want to know it00:26
asache probably will do the same as with xulrunner00:26
Ubulettehm00:27
asacas soon as i can say for sure that epiphany upgrades work with change directory names ... i will ITP xulrunner-1.900:27
asacgnomefreak: do you have admin powers for our mailing-list?00:29
gnomefreakasac: i think so00:31
gnomefreakyay its building ;) all patches are good00:32
asacUbulette: i haven't started discussion because i currently don't have the time to engage in this kind of difficult discussion00:32
gnomefreakasac: what do you need ill see if i can do it00:32
asacUbulette: but i will certainly do soon00:32
asacgnomefreak: how many mails waiting for moderation?00:33
asacdoes anybody do moderation works?00:33
asaci assume not :)00:33
gnomefreaknot sure yet let me check email00:33
gnomefreakme a freddy i think00:33
gnomefreakcan add i think00:33
asacadd? .. you mean approve/decline moderation queue items?00:34
gnomefreaki mean add people as mods00:34
gnomefreakso yes that too but wont know until i try00:34
asacah00:34
gnomefreakif i cant than i have to email rt@ubuntu00:34
asaccan you take a look if there are any at all?00:34
asacyes00:34
gnomefreakyes i will00:35
asaci think you can also whitelist people not-subscribed?00:35
gnomefreakshould00:35
gnomefreakhmmmm no new ones ill check on the list itself00:36
gnomefreakjust got one00:36
asacwhere do you look?00:36
gnomefreakhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs00:37
gnomefreakthan log in to see00:37
asacok lets hope that calendar works that way :)00:37
gnomefreaklist run by dfarning at gmail.com, ubuntu.ase at gmail.com, freddymartinez9 at gmail.com00:37
gnomefreakoh this is bugs list00:37
asacwho is ubuntu.ase00:38
asac?00:38
gnomefreakme00:38
gnomefreakjust me and freddy on mozillateam list00:38
gnomefreakyou want mod on that list?00:38
asacnot on bugs :)00:38
gnomefreakno reg list00:38
asacplease on the regular list00:39
gnomefreakok00:39
asacthough i don't even remember my password for that :)00:39
gnomefreakwhat email? ubuntu?00:39
gnomefreakasac: thats easy enough00:39
gnomefreakare you on jabber?00:40
asacgnomefreak: the one currently subscribed00:40
asacjabber?00:40
asacdo you see subscriber list?00:40
gnomefreaki can00:40
asaci think its asac@jwsdot.com00:40
asacbut please verify if that address is subscribed00:40
gnomefreakk00:40
gnomefreakgive me a few, where do you want me to give you password?00:41
asacis it in clear text? or will you regen?00:41
gnomefreakclear text is easiest00:42
gnomefreakyour added as mod afaict here00:42
asachttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mozillateam00:44
asacthats the place where i should login? or somewhere else?00:44
gnomefreakno ill give you link00:44
gnomefreakhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/ubuntu-mozillateam00:45
asachow can one find that? or do i need to bookmark it?00:45
gnomefreakthat should give you a page asking for password only right?00:45
gnomefreakasac: its in the emails you get00:45
gnomefreakit will say log in here and give you a link00:45
asacah ... so its only one password for all?00:45
gnomefreakif you want to randomly log in that page should be saved00:45
gnomefreakyep00:46
asacgnomefreak: do you have encryption in jabber?00:46
gnomefreakonce logged in you can do most anything look edit ect.00:46
gnomefreakasac: i use my gpg key to log in00:46
gnomefreaklets find out00:46
asaccan you read what i wrote?00:46
asaci sent you 3 messages00:47
gnomefreakim working on it atyes00:47
asacthen it probably just works00:47
asacjust use my "Mobile Key"00:47
gnomefreaki see 2 plus encyption enabled00:47
gnomefreakhow?00:47
asacdo you see what i wrote?00:48
gnomefreakyes00:48
asacthen just try to send a message00:48
gnomefreakcan you read what i sent?00:54
gnomefreaktheres alot of warnings with iceape00:58
gnomefreakduring build00:58
gnomefreakmaybe just moz. code as i do remember seeing some in ff00:59
asacgnomefreak: warnings are most likely ok01:00
asacif they are compile warnings01:00
asacand don't fail01:00
gnomefreakthey are fine (during build)01:00
asacgnomefreak: before uploading try to do some thorough tests ... e.g. take yourself a day for that01:02
gnomefreakok can do01:02
asace.g. use browser ... use mail ... calendar .... try some corner cases01:02
asace.g. do QA01:02
gnomefreakwe dont build calendar01:02
asacmaybe next time we want iceape on the qa tracker as well01:02
gnomefreak;)01:02
asacgnomefreak: right01:02
asacthats fortunate01:03
asacbut there are other components as well i guess01:03
gnomefreakyeah there are, i hope i dont need to upload/build anything else for this to build on PPA01:04
asacgnomefreak: shouldn't01:04
asaceverything in gutsy should be avail to you01:04
gnomefreakk01:04
asacand main is enough as well01:04
asacso you don't need to add universe/ in Section01:04
gnomefreakcool01:04
gnomefreakbrb need to go to store01:05
asacoff01:58
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gnomefreakasac: if i upload to PPA im gonna need to add ~ppa1 so its not confused with same version from repos03:56
gnomefreakthat would mean you would need to change changelog before pushing it03:59
gnomefreaklet me know what would be better for you. if i was able to remove things it wouldnt matter to much04:00
gnomefreakright now i have gutsys build version 1.1.5-1ubuntu1 should that be changed since hardy will have 1.1.5-1ubuntu1 (can i have 2 changelogs with same version just diff. distro name?04:30
gnomefreakim off to bed now04:30
asachi09:23
asacgnomefreak: thats ok09:23
asacgnomefreak: yes the version in gutsy should be smaller than the one in hardy09:24
exception_hello10:05
exception_is Alexander Sack there?10:05
asacyeah10:16
asacexception_: ?10:16
exception_well10:18
exception_i've posted russian translation for ubufox10:18
asacexception_: thanks.10:19
asacon the long run we will do translations of ubufox in rosetta (launchpad)10:19
exception_oh, that'll be nice10:19
asacbut for now its appreciated10:19
exception_i'd also like to be able to contribute ubufox joining dev team, if you like10:20
asacexception_: sure10:20
asacwelcome .)10:20
asacdo you know something about firefox extensions?10:21
exception_well, i've been working on one10:21
asacok so you know :)10:22
exception_yes, kind of that.10:22
exception_at least i hope so :)10:22
asachttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/ubufox/main10:22
asacthats the main branch10:22
asac(e.g. wikthout debian/ directory)10:22
asacbased on that jazzva (currently offline) develops his improvements:10:22
asachttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/ubufox/main10:22
asacor10:23
asachttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/ubufox/main.ff3 (firefox 3)10:23
asacexception_: i am not sure about the state of https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/ubufox/main ... but finally it should improve layout of the plugin finder wizard and10:23
exception_what branch should i work with?10:23
asacdepends on what you want to do ... if you want to help on the features that jazzva works on you should probably base your work on his branches10:24
asacotherwise on the main release branch (~asac)10:24
asacexception_: maybe take a look at jazzva main branch ... and see if it works .)10:25
asacthe plugin finder wizard should have a better layout ... and if you are not in the admin group you will not see any packaged results in the plugin finder wizard10:25
exception_so his works are to be merged someday with the main branch, i get it right?10:25
asacyes10:25
asacpretty soon10:25
asaci think he said that its now fixed and i could merge it ... haven't reviewed it though :)10:26
exception_oh, and a question10:26
asacsure ... go ahead10:27
exception_i don't get t, where's ubufox located by default? i can't see it in my profile folder (~/.mozilla/firefox/.../extensions)10:28
asacexception_: its a globally installed extension10:31
asacbut for development you can just install the .xpi in your profile on top10:31
asacpackaged/global extensions are in /usr/lib/firefox/extensions10:32
exception_oh, now i see it10:33
exception_thanks10:33
asacto develop you just run sh build.sh in the main branch10:33
asacand install the .xpi as usual10:33
exception_would it replace the default installation?10:34
asacyes ... it just works ... you don't need to uninstall the global one10:35
asacthe one in profile is preferred10:35
exception_i see it's not svn used in launchpad.. never worked with bzr, is it similar?10:37
asacexception_: yes its easy to learn for svn / cvs users10:37
asacthe commands are quite similar10:38
asacyou start by taking a branch ... (bzr branch URL) ... then you work like in svn ...10:38
asacbzr status10:38
asacbzr diff10:38
asacbzr commit10:38
asacto publish you just use10:38
asacbzr push URL10:38
exception_ok, thanks.10:39
asachttp://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/tutorial.html10:39
asacyou can just push to your own branch in launchpad ... then ask me to merge your changes to main branch and so on10:39
asacbut you can just develop locally first ... e.g. doing multiple commits10:40
asaconce you have something you want to show me ... i can tell you the URL to use to push to launchpad10:40
exception_nice10:40
exception_and where are the goals of project? something to be implemented, kind of roadmap10:40
asacexception_: unfortunately not yet ... i have some ideas though :)10:41
asacnew ideas are welcome ;)10:41
asacexception_: maybe to start ... branch of _my_ main branch10:42
asacadd your translation ... add another translation (there is one in the launchpad bug tracker910:43
asacpush things to launchpad and let me merge it in :)10:43
exception_ok10:44
asacto branch do: bzr branch https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/ubufox/main ubufox.main10:44
asacthen play around10:44
exception_i'll go buy some food :)  will be here in 30 minutes10:44
asacsure10:44
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exception_i have kind of idea11:03
exception_it'll not be useful for those whose native language is english but for those who are using both english and e.g. russian keyboard layouts that'll be VERY useful11:05
asac?11:08
asacswitching keyboard layouts? that is already dealt with by the gnome keyboard applet11:08
exception_nope11:12
exception_you see11:12
exception_there's a very annoying bug in ff11:13
exception_that has been reported lots of time since the very first ff 1.0 release11:13
exception_and they still don't fix it11:13
exception_*damn*11:13
exception_you can't use keyboard shortcuts when active layout is not english11:14
exception_it works nice in all other applications.. not in firefox though11:14
asachmm11:17
asacright11:17
asaci remember that bug11:17
asacwhats the idea?11:17
asachow do other applications deal with that?`11:17
exception_dunno how but it works everywhere, no matter what input language is selected11:18
exception_there is a workaround though11:18
exception_we could have an option for enabling that in extension prefs11:21
asacyes ... but first we have to understand how it works ... and why it works imo11:21
asacso how are the shortcuts mapped? e.g. in epiphany?11:22
exception_dunno11:23
exception_here's the bug itself: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29561411:23
ubotuMozilla bug 295614 in Keyboard Navigation "In cyrillic languages (Ukrainian, Russian) don't work hotkeys at all" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate]11:23
exception_https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69230 ?11:24
ubotuMozilla bug 69230 in Keyboard: Navigation "Accelerators should not be affected by keyboard group/level" [Normal,New]11:24
exception_oh, nice robot11:24
exception_see, that's a workaround: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/352911:25
* asac looking11:28
exception_it just listens to keypress and translates keycodes :)11:29
asacso how does this work? it uses the key at the same place?11:31
asace.g. ctrl-c = ctrl + 3rd key in bottom line from left?11:31
exception_it maps keycodes11:33
exception_though not best solution cause it can fix the bug only on those keyboards that are supported, i.e. that are defined in the addon11:34
exception_*not keyboards, i mean keyboard layouts11:34
exception_currently it supports russian, ukrainian and hebrew11:34
asachmm11:36
asacwhat about the patch attached to mozilla bug 6923011:36
asac?11:36
ubotuMozilla bug 69230 in Keyboard: Navigation "Accelerators should not be affected by keyboard group/level" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6923011:36
asace.g. attached at 2007-10-1211:37
exception_i looked through code, it might be really working11:42
exception_btw i've added ru-RU and fi-FI locales to my local copy and that seems to be working11:44
exception_though the description is still in English11:45
asacdescription?11:47
asacyou mean the one in install.rdf?11:47
asacok ... but please commit ru-RU and fi-FI in two separate commits .... its cleaner11:48
exception_yeah but localized ones are stored in ubufox.properties11:48
asacthen push to launchpad11:48
asachmm11:48
exception_oh i got the problem, sorry11:48
asachmm ... so does it work to use localized description that you see in addons dialog?11:49
exception_it was just 'ubufox' id in .preferences but the id is 'ubufox@ubuntu.com'11:49
exception_yes11:49
exception_nice, it works now11:50
exception_:)11:50
exception_and what do you think about adding standard icons to menus?12:12
asacwhich icons?12:23
exception_the same that are used in all gnome apps12:24
exception_dunno about kde though12:25
exception_"Translate this application" etc stuff12:25
exception_there are some standard icons, we might reuse them12:29
exception_hmm12:32
exception_i'm afraid i cannot push my changes12:32
exception_look12:32
exception_bzr push http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~asac/ubufox/main12:32
exception_bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.UnlockableTransport: Cannot lock: transport is read only: <bzrlib.transport.http._urllib.HttpTransport_urllib url=http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Easac/ubufox/main/.bzr/repository/>12:32
exception_how do i get the access?12:33
asacexception_: you cannot push to my branch12:33
asacyou have to push to _your_ branch12:33
asacjust create a launchpad account12:33
exception_got it :)12:33
asacand replace asac with your launchpad id12:33
exception_i've already one12:33
exception_then i push it to my branch and..12:34
asacaeh you have to push using bzr+ssh://...12:34
asacnot http12:34
asachttp is read only12:34
asacwhen you pushed it to your branch you show it to me so i can review and merge to my branch12:34
asac... which is the release branch12:35
exception_but i firstly i'm going to register a branch in launchpad, right?12:38
asacexception_: no ... it should just work12:38
asacmaybe you have to use --create-prefix for the initial push12:38
asacbut not sure12:38
exception_it says me Permission denied (public key)12:40
asacexception_: most likely you have to add a ssh key to your launchpad profile12:42
asacrun ssh-keygen12:42
asacto create a key pair if you don't have one12:42
asacthen you have to add the .pub key (in $HOME/.ssh) to your launchpad profile12:43
exception_now it worked12:59
exception_a strange thing12:59
exception_bzr tried using my local user name as a lp username13:00
exception_so i had to change my local user name and that worked :)13:00
asacno13:04
asacyou can use:13:04
asacbzr+ssh://USERNAME@bazaar.launchpad.net/~USERNAME/...13:04
asacexception_: ^^^13:04
asacotherwise it will try your local username ... right.13:04
exception_anyways i like my new username even better :)13:04
exception_so, what about icons?13:05
asaci don't understand the icon thing13:05
asacah wait13:06
asaclet me see13:06
exception_just open 'Help' menu in any application13:06
exception_icons are pretty the same13:06
asacwell ... this shouldn't be done in ubufox imo, but in firefox upstream13:06
exception_if you're using Gnome of course13:06
asacmaybe there is a mozilla bug for that?13:06
exception_nope13:06
exception_menus are added by the extensions13:07
exception_*extension13:07
asacno ... i mean ... no menu has an icon13:07
exception_err13:07
exception_what do you mean?13:07
asacbefore we add icons to the ubufox menu entries, the rest should be iconified as well13:07
asaclook in the firefox file menu13:07
asacthere is no icon13:07
exception_hm, really13:08
exception_but extensions that add own menus nearly always have icons for them13:08
exception_it's normally, i think13:08
asaci don't see any13:09
exception_eg flashgot13:09
asacgreasemonkey, webdeveloper, live http13:09
exception_anyways, *these* menus are like a standard. all gnome apps have them with icons.13:10
asacall gnome apps have icons for all the other menu entries as well13:10
IdleOneis there a pluggin to listen to midi files if FF/GP?13:10
asaci am fine with adding icons for our entries ... i just want to find the upstream bug first :)13:11
asacthere must be some13:11
asacIdleOne: hmm ... do you have a website that provides such a content?13:11
IdleOnehttp://tips-for-new-bloggers.blogspot.com/2007/02/add-music-to-blogspot-blog.html13:12
asacIdleOne: just add "add missing plugins ..."13:13
asacit will show find the right one for you13:13
IdleOneit doesnt add it13:13
IdleOnetell me it cant find any13:13
asacIdleOne: for me it finds mplayer13:13
exception_what is upstream bug?13:13
asacexception_: thats what i asked :)13:14
exception_err?13:14
asac14:11 < asac> i am fine with adding icons for our entries ... i just want to find the upstream bug first :)13:14
IdleOneasac: I get a No suitable plugins were found13:15
asacIdleOne: do you have ubufox installed?13:15
IdleOnebe back in a few minutes :/13:15
exception_still i don't get it. what the upstream bug are you talking about :) ?13:16
IdleOneasac: not certain but gotta go for a few13:16
asacIdleOne: without ubufox you won't search the ubuntu plugin db13:17
exception_btw some menus have icons (like bookmark folders and bookmarks themselves) so having standard Gnome icons for standard Gnome menus would not break any extension design guidelines, as i think13:21
exception_кстати говоря, логичнее было бы если бы выкидывало на правильную версию дистрибутива, а не только на feisty при нажатии на "получить справку"13:22
exception_damn13:22
exception_sorry :-))13:23
exception_i think it would be more useful if the link 'get help online' would lead us to correct distribution version, not only feisty, right?13:29
IdleOneasac: ubufox:13:33
IdleOne  Installed: 0.4~beta1-0ubuntu413:33
IdleOne  Candidate: 0.4~beta1-0ubuntu413:33
IdleOneasac: this is not because I absolutely need to be able to listen to midi files but it annoys me to not be able to if I wanted to :/13:34
asacIdleOne: i cannot tell ... does plugin finder service work otherwise? maybe you have disabled it in addons dialog?13:37
IdleOneasac: it normally works but I dont think I have disabled anything13:37
IdleOneasac: I dont seem to have mplayer in the plugins dialog13:39
asaci have no idea ... i see it as well ... mplayer is registered to serve midi, but apparently the lastes version doesn't do that anymore13:39
asacIdleOne: well i have mplayer, but it doesn't serve it anyway13:39
IdleOneI see13:39
asacmaybe you are on an architecture where mplayer doesn't exist?13:39
IdleOnenope plain old 38613:40
asacthats strange ... i get mplayer in the result list13:40
IdleOneit is a real shame that my machine is so slow. that sometimes I actualy consider getting on my wifes XP machine to do certain things that I have no problem doing on Ubuntu :/13:48
exception_i've made another commit, now the links link to correct pages14:01
IdleOnewhere would I add this bit of code in my blogger index.html? <embed autostart="false" height="40" loop="true" playcount="2" src="URL of music file" width="300"/></embed>14:37
IdleOneand yes I will edit the url for the music file14:37
IdleOneI know this isnt a html help channel but ....14:38
asacIdleOne: in the html page?14:54
IdleOneasac: yeah I asked in #html and got a beeter way of doing what i want14:54
asachttp://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs/test/2_multicontent.html14:55
asacthats an example of an video embed (without video though)14:55
IdleOnebetter*14:55
gnomefreakasac: ok im gonna spin gutsy as 1.1.5-1ubuntu1~gutsy1 and hardys will be 1.1.5-1ubuntu115:05
asacgnomefreak: ok ... traditionall we use15:11
asac1.1.5-1ubuntu0.7.1015:11
asacand 1ubuntu1 for current dev15:11
gnomefreakis it . or ~7.1015:11
gnomefreakah th e015:12
asacyou have to use 0 in front if you want to use .15:12
asacyeah15:12
gnomefreak1.1.5-1ubuntu0.7.10~ppa1?15:12
asacgnomefreak: right15:12
gnomefreakok15:13
gnomefreakfixing changelog atm15:13
gnomefreakmight not have been needed but i added the MFSA fixes into changelog ;)15:25
gnomefreakopen week is about to start :(15:31
gnomefreakasac: did we decide to add libxul as a build-dep for iceape?15:38
asacgnomefreak: he?15:39
asacno15:39
asacat least not for the versions that we currently have15:39
asacmaybe for iceape-trunk we can use xulrunner-1.9-dev as build-dep15:39
gnomefreakok15:39
gnomefreaki still havent gotten far on 2.015:40
asacgnomefreak: is that version actually maintained upstream?15:40
gnomefreakafaik it is15:41
gnomefreakupstream being mozilla15:41
gnomefreakits on their cvs/svn or whatever they use15:42
gnomefreakhow would i know who is maintaining it if not moz.15:42
gnomefreakasac: what is icedtea-java?15:51
asacGPLed java15:51
asac(e.g. sun-java -> released under GPL)15:51
gnomefreakah15:52
gnomefreakmaybe ill install it and try it other than using sun-java15:52
arleqHi, I've upgraded my distro from Feisty yo Gutsy and TB won't access my profile...15:52
gnomefreakarleq: if you create a new profile does it work than?15:54
arleqActually, I haven't created a new one, yet..15:54
gnomefreakarleq: also an error or some output while running in terminal would help if you have it15:55
arleqgnomefreak, let me see.15:55
gnomefreakarleq: what addons do you have installed? if removing them/disabling them does it than work15:56
* gnomefreak now figured out why you wanted it uploaded to ppas15:57
gnomefreakcheater15:57
arleqgnomefreak, when TBB starts, it asks me to create a new account15:57
arleqno console messages15:58
gnomefreakarleq: how many profiles do you see in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird15:58
arleqgnomefreak, now, after creating a new one: I have just one... the newly created one :-\15:59
arleqweird... I remember to have the valid 'old' one...16:00
arleqmaybe another location under ~16:00
arleqyep16:00
arleqgnomefreak, I have my valid profile under ~/.thunderbird/16:01
gnomefreakarleq: ok please file a bug report, i will look at it this week sometime on that bug report can you please attach the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade there should be 3 of them16:01
gnomefreakhmmmmmmm16:01
gnomefreakasac: doesnt tb still use ~/.mozilla-thunderbird?16:01
gnomefreakif we changed iut than i know what happened :)16:01
arleqgnomefreak, what does «iut» mean?16:02
gnomefreakit16:02
gnomefreaktypo16:02
arleqgnomefreak, may I move my valid profile to the new location where tb is looking for profile files?16:02
gnomefreakarleq: what version were you using in feisty?16:03
gnomefreakarleq: this pc was an upgrade and i only have ~/.mozilla-thunderbird16:03
arleqgnomefreak, Hummm I was using 2.0.0.6 update via the ubuntuzilla script...16:04
gnomefreakarleq: maybe move the profile in ~/.thunderbird to ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and see if it works (delete the one you just made in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird)16:04
gnomefreakarleq: than that is your issue16:04
arleqgnomefreak, ok :)16:04
asacgnomefreak: we still use that ... yes16:04
gnomefreakarleq: using wrong version made ~/.thunderbird by moving ~/.mozilla-tb to ~/.tb16:05
asacarleq: never use ubuntzilla script16:05
asacwhere the hell is that documented?16:05
gnomefreakasac: i found the issue. arleq where is this script16:05
asacis that in ubuntu wiki?16:05
arleqgnomefreak, let me try that approach. I've thought of perform that..16:05
gnomefreakasac: i think i know where16:05
arleqgnomefreak, you mean the ubuntuzilla ?16:05
asacarleq: how did you find that?16:05
asacwhere is it documented16:05
gnomefreakasac: i think its on the upgrade wiki16:05
asacwe have to either remove that or add a huge warning16:05
gnomefreakarleq: the script you used where diod you get it16:05
arleqboyz, I'll remove that script and remove my cronjobs too16:06
gnomefreakarleq: i need where you found the script so we can try to not let this happen again16:06
asacgnomefreak: its on sourceforge:16:07
asachttp://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/16:07
arleqhttp://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/16:07
arleqyep, sorry16:07
asacanyway ... i am ok with it ... but i want to be sure that there is no trail of it in wiki.ubuntu.com16:07
arleqasac was faster than I was :)16:07
asachttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion16:07
asacthere is something with ubuntuzilla16:07
asacgnomefreak: ok lets point the section on that page. "Automated installation of the latest Thunderbird" ... to the mozillateam ppa instead16:08
* gnomefreak has an idea16:10
gnomefreakk16:10
gnomefreakif i can16:10
gnomefreakasac: hack the script to use exsiting profile ;)16:11
asacwell .... its not the script but thunderbird itsself16:11
asacat some point _we_ should return to use .thunderbird16:11
gnomefreaktoo much shit on this page16:11
asacbut i feel unsafe about that and have no clue how to properly do that16:12
gnomefreakasac: i like that idea16:12
asacgnomefreak: where is the apt archive wiki page for mozillateam?16:12
asac!moztest16:12
ubotuThe Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.16:12
gnomefreakdo it the same way the clean install does it? and have mvo poke u-m so it doesnt fail16:12
arleqgnomefreak, I've bzip'ed the 'old' ~/.thunderbird directory... going to drop it into the new16:13
gnomefreakarleq: all you had to do was mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.mozilla-thunderbird.old  than mv ~/.thunderbird ~/.mozilla-thunderbird16:14
arleqgnomefreak, I know.. I know.. :)  just backing up16:14
arleqvoilà!!16:15
arleqhere I am.. all those things back :)16:15
arleqgnomefreak, thanx, man16:15
gnomefreaknp16:16
arleqso, let's say I remove that ubuntuzilla crap16:16
gnomefreakasac: how do you want to do this re-write the whole doc?16:16
gnomefreakarleq: dont keep it. we ALWAYS have repos for updated packages that cant/can make it in repos16:16
gnomefreakhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives.16:17
asacgnomefreak: i think we should just add our repos right on top where it says: Installing the newest version of Thunderbird from Mozilla16:17
asacthen add "(discouraged)" to all other method titles16:17
arleqboyz, I think I don't get the meaning of a 'preview' package16:19
arleqit's like Debian's 'experimental'?16:19
asacarleq: its _newer_ than whats in the normal archive :)16:21
arleqasac, oh... cool.. but this repo: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu gutsy main universe16:22
arleqdoesn't conficts with the main ones, does it?16:22
asaci think it doesn't16:22
arleqok..16:23
arleqgonna update && upgrade now :P16:23
gnomefreakhow do you spell qulity?16:24
asacpressing-thumbs :)16:24
gnomefreakquality16:25
asacgnomefreak: you are the native speaker here :)16:25
gnomefreakyeah i know16:25
arleqasac, what's your native tongue?16:25
gnomefreakasac: take a look i added a little more than just that16:26
asacarleq: C ;)16:26
arleqasac, hehehehe :P16:26
gnomefreak:) im an asshole16:26
asacarleq: german16:26
gnomefreakok brb smoke let me know if changes are needed16:26
arleqwhere can I find the GPG signature for that Gutsy repo?16:26
arleqgnomefreak, ok16:26
gnomefreakasac: iceape 1.1.5 is uploaded to PPA finally16:26
asacarleq: unfortunatly ppa archives are not yet signed ... the launchpad devs are working on a solution16:26
arleqasac, thanks for the info16:27
arleqasac, Do you run grandparadiso?16:27
gnomefreakonce its signed we can (i still need to look into this) make a key for ubuntu-mozillateam so anyone that uploads uses same16:27
gnomefreakarleq: yep we all do16:28
gnomefreak;)16:28
asacarleq: not regularaly ... in fact i usually run epiphany, because my ffox installs are more often broken than not16:28
asacbut otherwise i would16:28
asacfirefox-3.0 is the package16:28
arleqhehe... what about the stable firefox... do they co-live?16:28
gnomefreakasac: lol16:28
asacarleq: yes you can install both16:28
gnomefreakarleq: yes16:28
arleqc00l16:28
asacthey use separate profile dirs16:28
gnomefreaksrthey are both in gutsy official repos16:28
gnomefreakarleq: they are both in official gutsy repos16:29
arleqgonna search for firefox-granparadiso package16:29
arleqgnomefreak, oh16:29
asacarleq: its called firefox-3.016:29
gnomefreakarleq: firefox-3.016:29
gnomefreakwe changed the name16:29
asacgnomefreak: i don't see any changes on thunderbirdnewversion yet?16:29
asacdid you forget to commit them?=16:29
arleqshould I apt-get firefox-granparadiso or  firefox-3.0 ???16:29
asacarleq: the latter16:29
gnomefreakno im looking at it16:29
arleqasac, thanks16:29
asacgnomefreak: ah ok16:29
gnomefreakUbuntu-Mozillateam has supported repos for newer versions of packages found in the Ubuntu repos. [WWW] here All other methods are unsupported by Ubuntu-* teams and we discourage People from using them. The Ubuntu Mozillateam packages and maintains Mozilla products in Ubuntu repos. By using our repos you are promised the same quality packages as the ones in repos.16:30
gnomefreak3rd paragraph under Installing the newest16:30
gnomefreak...16:30
arleqfirefox-3.0 - lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version) :P16:30
gnomefreakbrb smoke16:30
gnomefreakasac: btw we need to take that out of ff 2.016:30
gnomefreaki thought we did but 2 weeks ago saw a bug on it16:30
asacgnomefreak: ?16:30
asacgnomefreak: thats good ... but please don't claim that they are of the _same_ quality ... they just try to be of the _same_ quality16:31
gnomefreakasac: what should i use instead since its the same devs that work on official packages16:34
gnomefreak;)16:34
gnomefreak This is a build of a random development version (aka trunk). It is ment for preview16:34
gnomefreak and not for production use.16:34
gnomefreakthat needs to be removed from ff2.016:34
gnomefreakand ment == meant16:34
asacgnomefreak: ah in the package control file?16:35
gnomefreakyes16:35
arleqguys, I've installed firefox-3.016:35
gnomefreakapt-cache show firefox16:35
asacdamn16:35
arleqbut still have two commands in my PATH16:35
asacthat sucks much16:35
arleqfirefox and firefox.ubuntu :P16:35
asacrm -r /opt/thunder* /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu16:36
asacaeh16:36
gnomefreakasac: it was added back due to using same branch for 3.0 maybe the changes that were made were reverted but not sure.16:36
asacrm -r /opt/firefox16:36
asaci guess16:36
asacno ... it was just not escalated16:36
arleqasac: those `rm' lines were for me?16:36
asacarleq: i have no idea what mess this ubuntuzilla script causes16:36
asactry to figure out if it allows you to uninstall what it did cleanly16:36
arleqok :P16:37
arleqasac, if you run ff3.0, where was it installed?16:37
asacgnomefreak: if you see such bugs, please escalate them to me with the proper severity ... this should have never made it to final gutsy16:37
gnomefreakasac: something like We try to keep the same quality in our PPA repos as we do for official repos16:37
asacgnomefreak: the packages adhere the same packaging standards as the official releases. Of course, they lack the amount of testing and thus might have undiscovered bugs16:38
asacor something like that16:38
gnomefreakah ok16:38
asacarleq: he?16:38
asacarleq: its installed in the firefox-3.0 package16:38
asacdpkg -L firefox-3.016:38
asacto see the files16:38
arleqasac: I mean where in the filesystem..16:38
arleqoh, ok16:38
asacarleq: it uses xulrunner-1.916:41
asacdpkg -L xulrunner-1.916:41
gnomefreakfixed and i added link to report bugs but we need to change that page as soon as we find out if PPA bugs are staying on LP or not16:41
asacgnomefreak: why wouldn't they?16:42
gnomefreakasac: it started outr as a "bug"16:42
asacwell at least bugs in the packages of the mozillateam should be filed as usual16:42
gnomefreaknot sure how they are handling it16:42
asacmaybe with a tag |ppa|16:42
arleq dpkg -l |grep firefox16:43
arleqdoesn't list any ff3.0 packages :(16:43
gnomefreakasac: the bug reporters need to state where they got them from (or we are looking at triagers closing our PPA bugs since they are not "official" if they dont know to keep them open16:44
gnomefreakarleq: try firefox-*16:44
asachmm ... they should use the "report a bug" menu entry16:44
asacand who are triagers?16:44
gnomefreakyeah they should16:44
gnomefreakasac: all of them16:44
arleqgnomefreak, no luck16:44
gnomefreaksee #ubuntu-bugs for some16:44
asacgnomefreak: i didn't know that there are lots of triager effectively helping on mozila bugs16:44
gnomefreakarleq: apt-cache policy firefox-3.016:44
arleqgnomefreak, I have two packages listed, none installed16:45
asachmm ... is hjmf missing in action?16:45
gnomefreakasac: there are (mainly newer triagers) but i see all kinds of names that i dont remember closing bugs and crap16:45
arleqthey've a 500 number before the URL16:45
arleqok,16:45
arleqbrb16:45
gnomefreakasac: i saw him last week i thought16:45
asachere?16:46
gnomefreakarleq: thats normal16:46
gnomefreakasac: i think so16:46
asaci don't have much mails in my ubuntu inbox of him16:46
asaceventually there is one on oct 15 though16:46
asacbut just one16:46
gnomefreakarleq: dpkg -l grep firefox-* should work if not try dpkg -l firefox-*16:46
gnomefreaki havent seen him in bug mail much either16:47
gnomefreakalthough i havent seen anyone but you and me for most part in bugmail and im on low side of that atm16:47
gnomefreakasac: so far iceape looks good been using it since 10pm last night and was up half the night playing with it. maybe total playing time 8 hours or so but i say take it tonight unless i see a bug16:49
gnomefreaki will start on hardys today16:49
asacgnomefreak: ok ... try ajax sites as well ... (maps.google.com et al) ... and if all works well point me to the ppa to pick it up16:50
gnomefreakok16:50
asacgnomefreak: ok oct 17 was his last post16:50
asaci think its still ok16:51
gnomefreaki will ping you later this afternoon if all is well16:51
asache might just be busted16:51
asaci sent him a mail though a week ago or so asking if he is fine ... but haven't received a reply though16:51
gnomefreakok bbl gotta get going so i have time to play later16:59
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=== arleq is now known as arle
Ubulettehi18:39
exception__hi18:40
shirishhi all, anybody up?18:47
shirishI did do a make clean18:48
shirishthis is on a gutsy machine18:48
exception__ya18:48
shirishCompiling lib/wmainfo.py ...18:48
shirishmake: *** [compile] Error 118:48
shirishany ideas or do people know about it?18:48
shirishoops, wrong forum18:49
shirishexception__: my issue is with the latest firefox 3.0 trunk from Ubulette's repository , whenever i try to use firefox-3.0 i get this18:51
shirishshirish@Mugglewille:~$ firefox-3.018:52
shirishCouldn't load XPCOM.18:52
Ubulettehi shirish18:52
shirishUbulette: hey :)18:53
Ubulettemy best guess is that you're still running very old debs18:53
JazzvaGood evening, everybody :)...18:53
Ubuletteshirish, plz show me: apt-cache policy libnss3-0d libnspr4-0d firefox-3.0 xulrunner-1.9 | grep Installed18:54
shirishUbulette: lol, in this case this is the pits, why should this happen, anyway any ideas so please tell me.18:54
shirish apt-cache policy libnss3-0d libnspr4-0d firefox-3.0 xulrunner-1.9 | grep Installed18:55
shirish  Installed: 3.12.0+cvs20070911t0322+bbot-218:55
shirish  Installed: 4.7.0+cvs20070912t1837+bbot-118:55
shirish  Installed: 3.0~alpha9~cvs20071021t0946+bbot-118:55
shirish  Installed: 1.9~a9~cvs20071021t0946+bbot-118:55
Ubulettebingo18:55
Ubulette  Installed: 3.12.0~cvs20071019t0355+bbot-118:55
Ubulette  Installed: 4.7.0~cvs20071016t1137+bbot-118:55
Ubulette  Installed: 3.0~alpha9~cvs20071021t0946+bbot-118:55
Ubulette  Installed: 1.9~a9~cvs20071021t0946+bbot-118:55
Ubulettenss and nspr are wrong18:55
Ubuletteremember i told you for force when I renamed "+" => "~"18:56
shirishUbulette: so how do I set it right18:56
Ubuletteapt-get install libnss3-0d=3.12.0~cvs20071019t0355+bbot-1 libnspr4-0d=4.7.0~cvs20071016t1137+bbot-118:57
Ubuletteyou're 5 weeks behind for those two ;)18:57
shirishUbulette: omgod18:58
Ubulette(you may have more debs to force if you installed -dev or/and -dbgm)18:58
Ubulettetry that and tell me ;)18:59
shirishI have more debs to force, pastebin you the entire exercise18:59
Ubulettejust abuse of apt-cache policy foo19:00
shirishUbulette: http://pastebin.ca/74577819:00
Ubulettewhere foo is all the debs that are behind19:00
shirishUbulette: if you look up that paste, you will see no. of packages which were removed when I downgraded.19:02
UbuletteThe following packages will be REMOVED:  firefox-dev libnspr4-0d-dbgsym libnspr4-dev libnss3-0d-dbgsym libnss3-dev19:02
Ubuletteall the libs are expected, you can readd them if you want.19:02
Ubulettefirefox-dev is ff2-dev but depends on nss/nspr-dev so it's expected too. you can readd that to19:03
Ubulettebut none of those are required unless you compiled something mozilla related19:05
gnomefreaki guess i should set up a hardy chroot instead :(19:05
gnomefreakoh well lets see what happens19:05
shirishUbulette: installing firefox-dev is giving me different stuff19:06
Ubulettegnomefreak, instead of what ?19:06
Ubuletteshirish, show me19:06
gnomefreakusing installed hardy19:06
Ubulettegnomefreak, i don't recommend that to anyone, but i'm doing it myself ;)19:07
shirishUbulette: hang on, dunno if this is good or not, but wait a minute, will show you.19:07
gnomefreakUbulette: im gonna use the chroot to build (less issues than if i build on installed hardy19:07
shirishhttp://pastebin.ca/74579219:08
gnomefreakbut lets see how iceape does since there isnt anything that really changed from gutsy to hardy for iceape19:08
Ubuletteshirish, seems all good19:09
Ubuletteshirish, does ff3 work now ?19:09
shirishyup, it works , hallelujah, at last :P19:09
Ubulettegood19:10
shirishthanx for helping out, although at some time the names need to be shorterned, I'm hoping it will happen the day when mozilla moves to bzr, then the time stamp wouldn't have to be so big.19:11
Ubuletteshirish, i don't know how long I will do debs for gutsy. I plan to start doing hardy rsn19:11
Ubulettemoz will move to hg, not bzr19:12
* shirish does a double-take19:12
Ubulettebzr is far too slow19:12
shirishI thought they were going for bzr19:12
gnomefreakasac: where does fakeroot debian/rules source get the files from? svn? cvs?19:12
* shirish mutters something about mozilla devs & hg19:13
shirishme now will have to learn hg sometime soon I guess19:13
shirishUbulette: any idea when hardy run is going to start up?19:13
gnomefreakUbulette: just another thought (besides the iceape thoughts for mozclient) can we add a tarballs dir inside mozclient for when it creates tarball to put it there instead of inside general dir ?19:14
Ubulettefta@ix:~ $ lsb_release -d19:14
UbuletteDescription:    Ubuntu hardy (development branch)19:14
Ubuletteshirish, started a few days ago19:15
gnomefreakshirish: the repos are open but beware toolchain is being added so you might get some bad brakage19:15
gnomefreakbreakage19:15
shirishgnomefreak: thanx, I think I would wait for a month before getting on the bandwagon, when the toolchain gets stabilized a bit :)19:16
gnomefreakshirish: thats a good idea19:16
shirish:)19:17
* gnomefreak wonders if i can use that for 2.0 19:17
gnomefreakhmmmm19:17
asacgnomefreak: source? ... no idea .... look in debian/rules :)19:17
gnomefreakworked for trunk19:17
asacgnomefreak: should be cvs19:17
gnomefreakasac: im thinking of using that to update the source for IA219:17
gnomefreaki have 1.1.5 on hardy building so far19:18
asacgnomefreak: good idea ... just verify that it gets it from cvs19:18
asacmight as well try to download a tarball from ftp19:18
gnomefreakasac: there are no sources up there19:18
gnomefreakjust reg. use tarballs19:18
gnomefreakassuming they are missing dirs. files needed to build source19:19
asaci think it doesn't download for iceape, but it just removes nonfree files et al19:19
Ubulettegnomefreak, i'll update mozclient to do that if you want.19:20
gnomefreakUbulette: please do, im gonna try running rules to see, it doesnt state what it uses just states date/time/ect..19:21
Ubulettejust need to think about the remove-bin instead of my current remove-everything-not-needed19:21
gnomefreakfrigging hardys build failed19:23
Ubulette?19:27
gnomefreakxpcon errors19:27
gnomefreakxpcom even i might know why19:28
Ubulettehmm, the current iceape package has no mozilla dir, right ?19:35
Ubulettedo we still want that ?19:35
gnomefreakright19:39
gnomefreakUbulette: i move everything in mozilla dir back one dir19:39
gnomefreakif i do it manually19:39
gnomefreakso configure and rest of files are in same dir as debian19:40
gnomefreakshit19:40
gnomefreakasac:  iceape failed to build on PPA19:42
gnomefreaklooking at it now19:42
gnomefreakhmmmmmm19:44
gnomefreakseems gutsy build failed on PPA the same way hardy is failing locally lets see if this fixes it19:45
gnomefreaki might have not commited the 99_configure patch to bzr might be the issue but would have thout it would have failed during appling patches19:46
Ubulettemozclient can do iceape-2.0~a1~cvsxxx19:46
gnomefreakty19:47
Ubulettewell, will do19:47
gnomefreakill play with it as soon as i can19:47
gnomefreakim thinking its bzr builddeb thats failing TBH19:53
gnomefreakasac: do i need to bzr add any patches after updating them?19:54
Ubulette-rw-r--r-- 1 fta fta 46151857 Oct 22 20:55 iceape_2.0~a1~cvs20071022t1059.orig.tar.gz19:55
gnomefreakUbulette: is the readme updated for it?19:56
Ubulettereadme ?19:56
Ubulettein mozclient ?19:56
gnomefreakyes19:56
Ubulettehaven't push anything yet19:57
gnomefreakah that would be why no revisions ;)19:57
Ubulette:)19:57
gnomefreakif updating the patch fixes this i have to figure out how to push that to branch, but i dont get it dpkg-buildpackage doesnt fail but bzr bd does19:58
Ubulettehmm, i'd like to do iceape2. seems fun19:59
Ubuletteshould be close enough to xul1.9/ff319:59
Ubulettemaybe share some patches19:59
Ubulettei like to do cvs stuff :)19:59
gnomefreakthe patches (most of them) need to be changed/updated20:00
UbuletteI'll name it iceape-2.0_2.0~a1~cvs20071022t1059.orig.tar.gz20:00
Ubuletteso it can coexist with regular iceape20:00
gnomefreakanyone care to look at http://pastebin.mozilla.org/223611 and tell me what im missing (just ran autoconf2.13 im thinking maybe it wasnt pushed to bzr20:01
gnomefreakUbulette: if you do please enable the ubuntu prefs patch20:02
Ubulettelet me start 1st ;)20:03
Ubuletteis there a usable bzr branch somewhere ? to start with ?20:03
gnomefreak82_prefs_ubuntu.dpatch this one20:03
gnomefreakUbulette: yes hold on20:03
* shirish out20:03
Ubulettedamn, dpatch20:03
gnomefreakhttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x20:03
Ubulettequilt is good for you ):20:03
Ubulette:)20:03
gnomefreakUbulette: change it if you like20:03
gnomefreaki planne don that anyway20:04
gnomefreakplanned20:04
gnomefreakbut i would like to keep 1.1.5 dpatch since ive invested a day so far in it20:04
Ubulettesure20:04
gnomefreakfuck20:04
gnomefreak99_configure is failing20:04
Ubulette1.1.5 is not ready so I propose to fork 2.0 at commit 9420:05
Ubuletteseems good ?20:05
gnomefreakmake it a separate branch20:06
gnomefreakyes20:06
Ubulettehmm, I think I started xul1.9 from scratch20:08
Ubuletteas none of the patches could be reused20:09
gnomefreaknow 99_configure wont apply something here is fucked up bad20:11
* gnomefreak goes to start from scratch20:11
Ubulettehmm, could iceape2 use xul1.9 like ff3 ?20:12
Ubulettenot sure tb is ready20:12
gnomefreakas it stands i doubt it but it should beable ot20:12
gnomefreakto20:12
gnomefreakUbulette: only way atm to know is to try it unless you find something moz devs posted about it20:13
Ubulettewaa, 55 patches20:15
gnomefreakok rebuilding gutsy to see if its me or not20:17
gnomefreakUbulette: iceape doesnt have that many20:17
Ubulettehmm, i'm looking at iceape_1.1.4-1ubuntu220:18
Ubulette55 patches20:18
gnomefreakok maybe it does20:19
gnomefreakUbulette: not all are still used20:21
gnomefreakbut the one above i would really like to get enabled again20:22
gnomefreakfor somereason it fails to apply and i threw up my hands at that time20:22
gnomefreakbtw xpcom SUCKS20:22
Ubulettelook in bugzilla, it may a known bug with a patch20:25
Ubulette+be20:25
gnomefreakit build fine lastnight, thats why i uploaded it but its failing to and i havent done updates in gutsy chroot i dont fucking get it (it has to be the autoconf2.13 fucking up a patch20:27
gnomefreakwilling to bet its the xpcom patch too ;)20:27
gnomefreakbut patches apply20:27
gnomefreakits spinning lets see what happens20:28
Ubulettearghh, no cdbs either20:32
gnomefreaknope20:35
gnomefreakits still failing im gonna try manualy building it20:36
* gnomefreak doesnt understand why it fails now and didnt 12 hours ago20:41
gnomefreakmaybe tarball is messed up?20:43
Ubulettedid you change your gcc ?20:44
Ubulettelooks like a visibility issue20:44
gnomefreaknot that i know of between yesterday and today in chroot20:47
Ubulettehardy or gutsy ?20:47
gnomefreak20_force-no-pragma-visibility-for-gcc-4.2_4.320:47
gnomefreakfixed that afaik.20:48
gnomefreakit passed build yesterday in gutsy chroot tried today and it failed (same chroot no uypgrades between builds20:48
Ubulettegcc 4.2 fixed a couple of visibility issues20:48
gnomefreaknow its failling across the boards gutsy and hardy20:48
Ubulettehmm, then I don't know20:48
gnomefreaki wish i did20:49
gnomefreakdamn what version does your gutsy chroot have for gcc20:49
gnomefreakVersion: 4:4.1.2-9ubuntu2?20:50
Ubulette4.1.3 by default20:50
UbuletteInstalled: 4:4.1.2-9ubuntu220:50
Ubulettebut you ask for gcc-4.2 in debian/rules20:51
gnomefreakgcc-4.2 is already the newest version.20:52
Ubulettehardy is ahead20:52
gnomefreakhow do i use 4.2 by default20:52
gnomefreakin gutsy i can care less about hardy atm20:52
gnomefreakhardy build has never passed20:53
gnomefreakgutsys did20:53
Ubuletteoh20:53
gnomefreakthats why im having such a hard time with this since gutsy has built 12 hours ago and fails now20:54
* gnomefreak willing to bet gcc wasnt upgraded in gutsy20:54
gnomefreakin last day20:54
gnomefreakshit i have to change the version in about20:55
gnomefreakim wondering if tarball isnt screwed up somehow20:56
gnomefreakif this passes its a tarball issue or a bzr bd issue20:57
asacoh we have iceape in mozclient now21:01
asacnice21:01
gnomefreakfuck iceape21:01
asaci think iceape 2.0 should be build against xulrunner-1.921:01
asacgnomefreak: you know how to fix 99_configure21:01
asacyou did it multiple times so far21:02
gnomefreakits fixeed21:02
gnomefreakits still failing21:02
gnomefreakxpcom21:02
asacthen its not fixed :)21:02
asache?=21:02
gnomefreak99_configure applies21:02
asacand?21:02
gnomefreakit fails later on xpcom21:02
asacduring build?21:02
gnomefreakhold on ill get you link21:02
asac99_configure is the last patch ... sio it must be during build21:03
gnomefreak-DBUILD_ID=2007100801 tells me yes21:03
asacgnomefreak: you said it built properly yesterday21:03
Ubuletteasac, about mozclient21:03
Ubulette<Ubulette> just need to think about the remove-bin instead of my current remove-everything-not-needed21:03
gnomefreakasac: it did as i installed it and haave been using it21:03
gnomefreakasac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/223611 failure21:04
gnomefreakthat is what has been bothering me so damn much :(21:04
gnomefreakgonna grab revision before yesterdays upload and start over21:05
gnomefreakasac: let me know wha tyou think about the error if you can think of one21:08
gnomefreakUbulette: can you also set mozclient up for 1.1.5 i have a strange feeling about the tarball rules is making21:17
Ubuletteisn't 1.1.5 a release ?21:19
asacgnomefreak: thats the visibility bug21:22
asacyou appear to have dropped a patch21:22
Ubulette[21:44] <Ubulette> looks like a visibility issue21:22
asacmost likely you just didn't update 99_confiugre21:22
Ubulette20_visibility.dpatch has been dropped21:23
asacbecause the touches configure.in21:23
Ubulette(well, forget it, i don't know)21:23
gnomefreaki did update it but i didnt bzr add 99_configure could that be it (thats why all my pulls from branch are failing now?21:23
Ubulette(i'm gonna deco rsn)21:24
gnomefreakthats why im staring from before todays upload21:24
gnomefreakif i can get it to build than i can worry about revising the branch21:25
Ubulette_i knew it21:25
asac22:24 < gnomefreak> i did update it but i didnt bzr add 99_configure could that be it (thats why all my pulls from branch are failing now?21:25
asac22:24 < asac> gnomefreak: you have to commit it to bzr (not add)21:25
asac22:24 < asac> but yes21:25
IdleOnewhy does trying to remove firefox want to remove epiphany-browser?21:26
asacUbulette_: do we reconnect in sync now?21:26
IdleOneand java621:26
gnomefreakasac: when i used bzr add ... it didnt give me anything thats what bothered me21:26
gnomefreakIdleOne: they depend on eachother21:26
asacgnomefreak: not bzr add ... you have to commit the updated 99_configure patch21:26
Ubulette_asac, I get a new IP every 24h21:26
IdleOnegnomefreak: so two different browsers depend on each other?21:27
gnomefreakasac: commit debian/patches/99.....?21:27
gnomefreakIdleOne: notice all browsers depend on firefox21:27
IdleOnethat doesnt make sense. why wasnt epiphany installed then when firefox was21:27
gnomefreakIdleOne: thats gonna change in the future21:27
Ubulette_asac, hopefully that f*g rule will change soon. i'll have 7 days then21:27
gnomefreakinstall epiphany will install ff21:27
asacgnomefreak: update 99_configure (e.g. dpatch-edit ... autoconf2.13 ... exit)21:27
gnomefreakyes21:27
asacthen commit the changes21:27
gnomefreakthan just push21:27
gnomefreakah i didnt add a patch21:28
IdleOnegnomefreak: so I have to keep FF to use epiphany?21:28
gnomefreakiu updated it21:28
gnomefreakIdleOne: for the most part yes21:28
IdleOneokie then21:28
gnomefreakIdleOne: thats why xulrunner is in works21:28
Ubulette_IdleOne, that could change someday if epiphany moves to xulrunner 1.921:28
asacchpe is working on it21:29
IdleOnegnomefreak: doesnt seem right though that a user doesnt have the choice and has to keep certain software to use other software21:29
Ubulette_IdleOne, it's called a dependency :)21:29
IdleOnebut I guess I can live with it21:29
gnomefreakIdleOne: thats why everything will depend on xulrunner instead21:29
gnomefreakIdleOne: its being fixed for hardy21:29
IdleOnecool beans21:29
gnomefreakwe didnt have time to fix it in gutsy21:29
gnomefreakUbulette: afaik the plan was to make things depend on xul instead of ff21:30
IdleOnecant wait to see how bad hardy breaks when it finds FF2.0 GP and epiphany on my machine lol21:31
Ubulette_gnomefreak, yes, that's what I've just said21:31
gnomefreakIdleOne: it wont break21:31
gnomefreakIdleOne: i have the 3 + more installed21:31
IdleOnewell I trust you gnomefreak so if yo tell me it will be ok then it will be ok :)21:32
gnomefreakIdleOne: everything works atm in hardy21:32
IdleOnehas the first alpha been released yet?21:32
Ubulette_lol, no21:32
gnomefreaksince we have xulrunner 1.9 in gutsy repos it should be fairly easy to start depending on it in hardy21:33
gnomefreakIdleOne: repos have been open for like 3 days21:33
IdleOnelol21:33
gnomefreakgive it a month or so before 1st alpha21:33
IdleOnewell I dont know if Im ready for an upgrade yet21:33
gnomefreakif your smart you wont upgrade21:33
gnomefreakwell for a bit21:34
IdleOneI'll wait till herd or tribe or whatever " 1 " it is going to be called is released21:34
gnomefreakflock maybe21:34
IdleOnehahaha21:34
gnomefreakheron is a bird21:34
gnomefreakbirds flock21:34
gnomefreakbut we shouldnt have too many big changes in this release21:35
IdleOnehey I jusdt installed fOCK1 OR fLUCK1 AND NOTHING WORKS! CAN SOMEBODY HELP??? pleeeeeeeeeeease21:35
IdleOneLOL21:35
IdleOnebtw guys I dont mean to seem like I dont appreciate all you guys do for us Ubuntu users but FF is killing my machine :/21:36
gnomefreakasac: remember what screwed me up now21:36
gnomefreakwhen i go to commit i get mozilla files also being commited as unknowns21:37
gnomefreaktalking 80 lines of files21:37
gnomefreakhow do i prevent this?21:37
asacgnomefreak: you have to run fakeroot debian/rules clean  ... before doing anything21:38
gnomefreakbefore commiting21:38
gnomefreakmight be a good rteason21:39
gnomefreak-t21:39
gnomefreakstill lists them damnit21:40
gnomefreakah its trying to commit everything in top level dir.21:41
gnomefreaksince im not using bzr i guess would be reason21:41
gnomefreaki would rather omit the non debian files so im gonna see if it changes using bzr setup21:44
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gnomefreakasac: why would autoconf2.13 update 80_system_libs.dpatch22:01
gnomefreaki think is where the issue is22:01
gnomefreakafter running autoconf2.13 i cd back into debian dir and commit and that is the only thing that gets commited22:02
gnomefreakbbl im pissed off now22:20
* tonyyarusso wonders why22:27
Ubuletteftbfs with iceape 1.1.5 ;)22:29
asacgnomefreak: try to step back a few meter ... and look from a different perspective22:36
asac:)22:36
asacoh i think its a few feet for you :)22:36
Ubulettei've converted iceape to quilt22:41
asacUbulette: \o/22:42
Ubulettei did that on 1.1.422:42
Ubuletteso not to repeat the mistake of nss22:42
asacwell ... actually we are now forked form debian22:42
asacmistake?22:42
Ubuletteremember the version bump and dpatch->quilt i did at the same time22:43
asacUbulette: hmm ... switching patchsystem for a security upload is not really minimal :)22:43
Ubulettei've lost parts of 1 or 2 patches at that time22:43
asacUbulette: ah right.22:43
asacUbulette: so now we maintain iceape independently from debian?22:44
Ubulettei dont plan to push my 1.1.4. just make it build then bump22:44
Ubuletteonly iceape222:44
asacah ... ok i thought this was for the 1.1.5 update22:44
asacfind with that22:44
asaclets go ahead and the take over the debian packages :)22:44
asacs/and the/and then/22:45
Ubulettei've nicely merged the patches, with comments and all22:45
asachow many patches are still there?22:45
Ubulettescripted of course22:45
UbuletteI've kept 4722:46
asac47... thats massive22:46
asachow many do we have in xul?22:46
Ubulettedropped the unused ones22:46
asac1022:46
Ubuletteyep22:46
asacaeh 922:46
asaccan't we just drop all patches? and then add only those needed?22:47
Ubulettebut I assume I'll drop most of those 47 at the bump22:47
asacok22:47
asacah right ... you didn't bump yet22:47
UbuletteI did, but I reverted to do the migration 1st22:47
asacyeah ... right22:47
Ubulettesee ? I learn for my mistakes ;)22:47
Ubuletteok, it builds22:48
Ubulettehmm.. should I do cdbs now or after the bump22:51
asachard to say22:51
asaci would do everything before22:52
asaconce we use cdbs there will finally be no roam for cooperation with debian i guess22:52
Ubulettewell, I've never heard of mike's opinion on our work here in the last 4-5 months so if he doesn't give a damn, I don't either22:55
asacyes22:55
UbuletteI don't mean to be rude or anything, it's just a fact, we did something we thought right, i just can't see anything on the debian side22:57
gnomefreakok i get autoconf either makes the patch good or bad but why dont i have an updated 99_configure why did it change the libs patch (that doesnt make sense22:57
* gnomefreak willing to bet there is something in the libs patch that has to do with xpcom failure22:57
gnomefreak(Gutsy)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/test/work/ubuntu-1.1.x$ bzr commit22:58
gnomefreakmodified debian/patches/80_system_libs.dpatch22:58
gnomefreak99_ isnt there22:58
asacgnomefreak: why do you commit wihtout lookin what you changed?22:58
Ubulettedo bzr st before22:58
gnomefreakall i did was autoconf2.13 and i didnt commit it i canceled it22:59
gnomefreakeither way it updated wrong patch from what i can see22:59
asacgnomefreak: you mix things up22:59
asacyou probably didn't edit 99_configure but 80_system libs23:00
asacso configure diff is now in there23:00
asacouch23:00
gnomefreak(Gutsy)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/test/work/build-area/iceape-1.1.5$ dpatch-edit-patch 99_configure23:00
gnomefreaktry again23:00
asacgnomefreak: before you try again ... reset everytrhing to a clean state23:00
asacdpatch is a beast ... if you did something wrong at some point you won't be able to clean things up properly23:00
gnomefreakhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/22372323:01
gnomefreakthats what i did23:01
gnomefreakif you find what i did wrong please tell me23:01
asacgnomefreak: you update the patch in build-area23:02
asacbut then you don't copy the updated patch to your ubuntu-1.1.x directory23:02
gnomefreakah23:02
asac#23:02
asacdpatch-edit-patch: /home/gnomefreak/test/work/build-area/iceape-1.1.5/debian/patches/99_configure.dpatch updated.23:02
asac#23:02
asac(Gutsy)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/test/work/build-area/iceape-1.1.5$ cd ..23:02
asac#23:02
asac(Gutsy)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/test/work/build-area$ cd ..23:02
asac#23:02
asac(Gutsy)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/test/work$ cd ubuntu-1.1.x/23:02
asac#23:02
asac(Gutsy)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/test/work/ubuntu-1.1.x$ bzr commit23:02
gnomefreakyes i know what i did, so ill copy it over23:02
asacright23:02
asacbut uncommit the 80_... commit23:03
gnomefreakwhy did that change :(23:03
asacthats most likely garbage you produced23:03
asacno idea23:03
gnomefreaki never commited it23:03
gnomefreaki canceled the commit23:03
asacgnomefreak: you committed it23:03
asacah ok23:03
asacthen clean-tree23:03
asacrevert23:03
asacbefore you commit next time23:03
gnomefreakclean-tree?23:03
asacotherwise the garbage will still be in 80_...23:03
asacclean-tree removes files that are not managed by bzr23:04
asacbzr revert; bzr clean-tree23:04
asacbrings your tree to pristine state23:04
gnomefreakafter i copy the patch over23:04
asacah clean-tree is in bzrtools23:04
asacno23:04
asacdo that before you do anything23:04
gnomefreakthan i will have to rerun autoconf?23:05
asacyou don't want to start with a cluttered tree23:05
asacyes23:05
gnomefreakoh23:05
asacthen you have to do what you did23:05
asacand copy over 99_configure23:05
asacthen commit that file23:05
asacdone23:05
gnomefreak(Gutsy)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/test/work/ubuntu-1.1.x$ bzr revert; bzr clean-tree * debian/patches/80_system_libs.dpatch23:06
gnomefreakNo files deleted.23:06
gnomefreakthats good?23:06
asacyeah23:06
gnomefreakok23:06
Ubuletteseems my last commit is too big for lp/codebrowse23:08
Ubuletteasac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58701023:09
asacyeah ... won't happen23:11
asacnm approach is superior :)23:11
Ubulettehmmm23:13
Ubulette  firefox-3.0: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed23:13
Ubulettewtf ?23:13
Ubuletteis hardy behind gutsy ?23:13
asacUbulette: yeah pango has been updated in gutsy23:14
asacand hardy is still close23:14
asacso thats what you see :)23:14
asachardy should open soon though23:14
asac(for general uploads)23:14
Ubulettegutsy shows:23:14
Ubulette$ apt-cache policy libpango1.0-023:14
Ubulettelibpango1.0-0:23:14
Ubulette  Installed: 1.18.2-0ubuntu123:14
Ubulette  Candidate: 1.18.2-0ubuntu123:14
asacUbulette: gutsy proposed  has newer23:15
Ubuletteohh23:15
asacits not yet moved to real gutsy ... i think the same will happen with a bunch of gnome packages that didn't made gutsy, but where ment to be in23:15
asacs/where/were/23:15
Ubulettemy bot should not use proposed, just plain23:16
Ubulettedamn23:16
asacyeah ... thats probably the problem then23:16
asacjust plain + security i guess23:16
Ubulettegod, i've used the whole set since day 1. plain, security, updates and backports23:18
Ubuletteused to be empty23:18
Ubulettefixed23:21
asac;)23:25
Ubuletteasac, how do I pass a variable to configure using cdbs ?23:38
UbuletteLDFLAGS="-Wl,--as-needed" ./configure --blabla23:38
Ubulettewith cdbs, I no longer call configure myself23:39
asacyou mean an env variable?23:41
UbuletteLDFLAGS23:41
asacDEB_CONFIGURE_SCRIPT_ENV = CC="$(CC)" CXX="$(CXX)" CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" CXXFLAGS="$(CXXFLAGS)" CPPFLAGS="$(CPPFLAGS)" LDFLAGS="$(LDFLAGS)"23:42
asacthats already set ... so just set LDFLAGS23:42
Ubulettecool23:42
Ubulettethat rules file is huge23:55
Ubulettemostly rebranding and chrome tweaking23:55

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