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superm1dattas, depends if you've apt-get update/upgraded since then00:00
superm1it was a known issue around rc or beta time00:00
dattasi have upgraded00:01
superm1dattas, then try to regenerate the password and restart gdm or the computer00:01
superm1and it should work out correctly00:01
dattasi have00:01
dattasregenerate by using vnc4password right?00:01
superm1regenerate using mcc00:01
superm1$mcc00:01
superm1using mythbuntu-control-centre00:02
superm1on the services tab00:02
dattasoh, i have done that then00:02
dattasusing reconfigure00:02
dattasand by disabling00:02
dattasthen enabling00:02
superm1yeah that re-generates the password and puts it in /root/.vnc00:02
dattasi know that the vnc server is not even starting, however i can start it manually, but then i only get a terminal00:03
TheShadowI just did a fresh install of mythbuntu rc does that mean its a bug with the install?00:06
dattaspossibly00:06
TheShadowdattas: ok. is there a solution?00:07
superm1dattas, it starts from X, not as its own process00:07
superm1check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log00:07
superm1and you will see information about it loading the vnc module00:07
dattasshould i post it?00:09
dattasthe part about the vnc00:09
dattas(II) LoadModule: "vnc"00:09
dattas(WW) Warning, couldn't open module vnc00:10
dattas(II) UnloadModule: "vnc"00:10
dattas(EE) Failed to load module "vnc" (module does not exist, 0)00:10
superm1dattas, you dont have vnc4server installed it would sound like then00:13
dattasbut why can i run the vnc4server manually then?00:13
TheShadowI don't even get that lol00:14
dattasoh wait... hm restarted it again and it works all of a sudden... how odd00:16
superm1the package vnc4server provides /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libvnc.so which is the module loaded into x00:16
dattaslol it works now but it is taking forever while "Performing Autostart..."00:17
tritiumsuperm1: it appears to me that one of the pros you listed, specifying MySQL root password, is only true for Advanced Install.  True?00:18
superm1dattas, um do you have the splash screen turned on for some reason?00:18
superm1dattas, that thing gave people a LOT of trouble00:18
superm1tritium, yeah00:18
dattasah i think i did turn it on... how do i disable it?00:19
tritiumsuperm1: same for mythweb password?00:19
superm1at least the easy method to do so00:19
superm1tritium, no mythweb password you can do otherwise00:19
superm1dattas, well if you ever get logged on, its under one of the settings options00:19
tritiumi.e., in the standard install?00:19
superm1for xfce00:19
dattasyou cannot disable it from command?00:19
superm1tritium, you can do and change mythweb password both way00:19
superm1dattas, i dont know off hand which config file its in00:19
tritiumokay, thanks, superm100:19
superm1but its in ~/.config00:19
superm1somewhere00:19
dattasso will it login eventually?00:20
superm1from the tests that we had with that login splash screen: yes00:20
superm1but it took forever00:21
superm1you can always just blow away ~/.config00:21
superm1it rebuilds it all00:21
superm1upon login00:21
dattashm...00:21
* TheShadow smacks head against wall00:21
superm1TheShadow, what'd you do?00:21
dattaswhat all will it do?00:21
TheShadowNothing I just can't get vnc to work00:22
dattaswill i have to reconfigure mythtv?00:22
superm1dattas, no that just blows away xfce settings00:22
dattasok sweet00:22
superm1and loads the defaults from /etc/xdg/mythbuntu00:22
TheShadowis there a way to enable XDMCP from the command line? reading the screen is difficult00:23
superm1TheShadow, did you check your xorg.conf to see if you had those options?00:24
TheShadowsuperm1: they weren't there I added them00:25
TheShadowand did a gdm restart00:25
superm1TheShadow, i've got to run for multiple hours.  leave this all in a forum posting on our forums if you dont get it sorted out and i can try to work with you on it there.00:26
TheShadowok00:27
dattasI love mythbuntu by the way, and thanks for the help00:29
directhexsuperm1, ps3 xubuntu 7.10 sucks. make ps3 mythbuntu 8.04 unsucky plz!00:29
superm1directhex, $spec :) cya guys00:31
tritiumsuperm1: we'll talk later about the documentation?00:33
tritiumI'm nearly finished.00:33
tgm4883heh00:33
tgm4883directhex, that was write a spec about it00:33
tgm4883since mythbot is dead00:34
directhextgm4883, yes, i know. i guessed that much. i'll wait for my "ps3 linux is an utter shambles" article to land first00:34
tgm4883ah ok00:34
tgm4883what the diff between the powerpc version and the ps3 version?00:34
directhexboot loader, drivers, and general polish00:35
tgm4883ah00:35
directhexubuntu manages the middle one well, screws up the former & latter totally00:37
TheShadowAnyone... please how the heck do I enable xdmcp via the command line? superm1 I changed the dpi it doesn't to appear have helped at all00:38
directhexanyway, bedtime00:40
* TheShadow bashes the keyboard against the wall00:46
TheShadowyou know this wasn't remotely this difficult with Ubuntu Feisty with Mythtv installed00:47
kolbyhey guys,  how do I reconfigure my mysql package?01:54
kolbyyou see, I made this problem by telling it my address was 'localhost' instead of 127.0.0.1  :(01:55
superm1_you put the wrong address in which?01:58
superm1_when installing myth01:58
superm1_or something else?01:58
kolbymyth01:58
kolby...I'm really lost01:58
kolbymy  mysql thing needs updated to read 127.0.0.`01:58
superm1_is this a backend?01:58
superm1_'or a frontend01:58
kolbyits both01:58
superm1_okay then dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database01:59
kolbynormal desktop + front and back01:59
kolbyokay01:59
superm1_followed by dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common01:59
kolbywell, it changed those.  But it's still not working02:01
kolbyI thought I might have needed to dpkg-reconfigure the mysql thing itself02:01
kolbyokay....02:02
kolbyit said 'failed to create database'02:02
kolbyaccess denied for mythtv@localhost02:03
kolbygahhh....02:03
kolbyI'mj completely removing the packages and starting from scratch now02:04
superm1_kolby, just purge it all02:04
superm1_yeah02:04
superm1_kolby, is this gutsy?02:04
kolbyyup02:05
superm1_kolby, then yeah purge mysql-server-5.0, mythtv-*02:05
kolbyI didn't install it properly I suppose02:05
superm1_and I would say install mcc02:05
kolbyokay02:05
superm1_it avoids a lot of this02:05
kolbymcc?02:05
kolbyok yeah02:05
kolbylol.  I didn't know about it at first02:05
superm1_kolby, www.mythbuntu.org02:05
kolbyI came from Feisty... so02:06
superm1_and follow Add to Ubuntu02:06
kolbyall right.  brb02:06
keescooksuperm1_: d'oh!!  did the uk mirror master's apache config break?02:11
keescooksuperm1_: all isos were just wiped during an rsync02:11
superm1_keescook, woah yuck!02:11
superm1_Daviey, !! ^02:11
keescookhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41603/02:11
keescook:(02:12
superm1_keescook, hopefully Daviey can sort that out quick before any other mirrors that are rsyncing break too...02:12
superm1_keescook, we moved mythbuntu.org to a vhost on uk mirror02:12
* keescook nods02:13
superm1_keescook, i'm not sure why that would have affected things though02:13
superm1_any ideas?02:13
superm1_because the cdimages vhost is still intact02:13
keescookno clue; maybe the rsync directory changed somehow02:13
superm1_oh that's possible02:14
superm1_keescook, yeah they used to be in /var/www02:14
superm1_but aren't anymore.02:14
superm1_that would be probably the cause02:14
* keescook nods02:15
kolbyokay...  I'm still getting anywhere.02:15
superm1_keescook, can you try again?02:15
superm1_i just made some symlinks around on the box02:16
keescooksuperm1_: sure, one sec02:16
kolby...grr....  brb  I'm going to try again02:16
keescooksuperm1_: seems to be working -- files are coming down again now.02:18
superm1_keescook, yeah unanticipated problem with the rsync :)02:18
superm1_thanks for catching that so quick02:18
keescookyou bet!  thanks for fixing it so quick.  :)02:18
kolbyI'm just lost.  I reinstall mythbuntu from the website using the 'add to ubuntu' link.  I have no frontend or backend02:22
superm1_kolby, right and then start mcc02:22
superm1_and then you install fe and be from that02:22
kolbymaky02:22
superm1_as well as all plugins02:22
superm1_remote02:22
superm1_services02:22
superm1_drivers02:22
superm1_etc02:22
tazgodxwhats the site that i go to request future mythbuntu features?02:24
superm1_$spec02:24
superm1_argh.02:24
superm1_http://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+addspec02:25
tritiumHi superm1_02:26
tazgodxhaha, thanks02:26
superm1_hi tritium02:26
tritiumsuperm1_: hopefully you got my /query with a link to the write-up?02:27
superm1_tritium, no i'm not at that computer02:27
superm1_tritium, i can teach you howto publish the branch02:27
superm1_that'd be the most ideal way02:28
tritiumsuperm1_: oh, okay...02:28
superm1_then it can be merged02:28
superm1_and then your name stays associated with the changes02:28
tritiumSure.  Do I need to join the launchpad team?02:28
superm1_tritium, Nope02:28
superm1_just need a ssh key in launchpad02:28
tritiumcool02:28
tritiumokay, I don't have one currently02:28
kolbyyou know.... in all logic that should have worked02:30
kolbyit still gives me the same error.02:30
superm1_how???02:30
superm1_you purged mysql-server-5.002:30
superm1_right?02:30
superm1_and mythtv-database02:31
superm1_and mythtv-common02:31
superm1_etc/02:31
kolbyyeah.  Let me retry the mysql-server02:31
kolbyyeah.  brb02:31
superm1_mind you mysql-server-5.002:31
superm1_not mysql-server02:31
superm1_both are on your system02:31
superm1_the 5.0 one is the important one02:31
kolby'm purging both02:31
superm1_k02:31
kolbyshould I uninstall the rest again too02:31
superm1_won't hurt02:31
superm1_also02:32
superm1_if you have a ~/.mythtv02:32
superm1_get rid of it02:32
kolbyokay02:32
kolbyyou meant the folder right?02:37
kolby./mythtv02:37
kolbyI didn't write a config file02:37
tazgodx~/.mythtv means ~(home folder)/.mythtv02:38
tazgodxhidden by default02:38
kolbyright  okay02:38
tazgodxi dont know much, so i like to look smart and help when i can :)02:40
kolbyokay thanks.   lol02:44
kolbyshould I go with secondary or primary backend?02:45
kolbyI'm using it as a Desktop + back + front02:45
kolbyokay, I'm trying Primary first...02:46
superm1_yeah primary02:47
kolbymkay ^^02:47
kolbyBWAHAHAHAHA!!!!   Success02:48
kolbyI'm now in the Setup tool02:48
kolbythanks guys.  That was crazy.02:48
=== MythbuntuGuest18 is now known as stevetv
superm1_kolby, you've finally reminded me of the spec i wanted to write earlier today.  for hardy i think that i might want to have a rather invasive patch to mythtv source that does away with ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt all together03:00
superm1_so that it can't wreak the havok it tends to03:00
superm1_:)03:00
kolbywell...  I don't know if that's what the problem was but, PINKY AND THE BRAIN is on!!!   lol03:02
kolby(woot)03:02
tazgodxso, how long do you think till mythtv releases its next release so we can use multiple hdds?03:04
kolbypinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?03:04
superm1_MitoTranin, you here?03:08
superm1_MitoTranin, are you set to rsync from us?03:08
stevetvtaz.. multiple hdd?03:12
tazgodxyeah the new version is suppose to allow multiple folders for saving03:13
kolbyhmmm.  Can't you make a static link or something?03:15
tazgodxyou can make an LVM, but until they rls support for multiple folders, tahts the only option03:15
kolbyrighty.  lol.  Any guides on doing that?'03:16
tazgodxLVM?03:16
tazgodxi personally used this guide to set up my LVM03:17
tazgodxhttp://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm03:17
stevetvthat reminds me .. vaguely. mythbuntu seems badly partitioned to me03:18
tritiumkolby: http://www.mythbuntu.org/installation_manual (Advanced Setup Options -> LVM in manual)03:18
superm1_stevetv, the partitioning isn't any different than the standard ubuntu install currently03:19
stevetv:) . superm1. then i dont like those either lol03:19
kolbythanks.  ^^03:19
stevetvto me, a seperate partition for media seems valid.03:20
stevetvits just my opinion tho.. i mean.. who am i.. nobody thats who03:20
tazgodxyou can make a seperate partition to be your /var/lib/ folder, and that it really doesn't make a difference between that and /recordings/03:22
tazgodxthats just my opinion03:22
Davieystevetv: It's something we discussed and couldn't agree on to suite everybody03:22
superm1_stevetv, well and there is an issue that we can't overwrite the partitioning recipes that are in standard ubuntu easily03:22
superm1_because we are part of the regular ubiquity installer, we have to be good citizens :)03:22
tazgodxhaha03:23
superm1_i'm going to talk to the other installer guys about it more at UDS03:23
tazgodxUDS?03:23
stevetvno fair enough.. its a disto.03:23
stevetvUbuntu Developer Summit03:25
tazgodxsounds fun03:25
stevetvlol.. but then i only googled it so its not like i know anything about it03:25
tritiumBoston sounds like fun...03:25
MythbuntuGuest44hello04:02
Gumbyman, dpms is driving me nuts.  does anyone know how to completely disable it and screen blanking?04:04
TariI think just setting dpms to off in xorg.conf works04:07
MythbuntuGuest44when i import dvd. why does it rip chapters separate. Can I make it only display the main title?04:13
tazgodxyou should be able to, it should be a setting04:21
road2elysiumhey guys; I'm having a problem with mysql and the mythbuntu control center.04:24
superm1_!ask | road2elysium04:24
uboturoad2elysium: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:24
road2elysiumI upgraded a backend to the 7.10 RC, and I'm trying to add the frontend to the mysql db.  It looks like the mysql service is running from ps, but I'm unable to get the frontend to connect on the install.04:26
road2elysiumSo I tried running the mythbuntu control center on the backend, it prompts for root authorization, but then doesn't load anything04:27
road2elysiumAny ideas on how to get the control center to load?  I did notice that superm1 said that "There was a bug in the RC installation that the mysql service may not have been activated in a few instances."04:31
superm1_road2elysium, is this on amd64?04:32
road2elysiumyes04:32
road2elysiumthe backend is at least04:32
superm1_there was a bug in the mcc on amd6404:32
superm1_go to mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu04:33
superm1_and at the bottom04:33
superm1_there is a link to the fixed deb04:33
road2elysiumThanks, I'll give it a try now.04:35
* tazgodx bows before superm1_04:36
superm1_haha. thanks04:37
tazgodx:)04:37
* road2elysium agrees with tazgodx04:38
tazgodxi think my HDD is totally screwed...i can't even get livetv to play anymore :(04:39
tazgodxcan't wait for my new drive to com04:39
road2elysiumsuperm, MCC works now after the deb install.  thanks again.04:40
MythbuntuGuest44does any one know. how i rip a dvd as one file.04:41
tazgodxyeah04:41
tazgodxit should automatically do it04:42
MythbuntuGuest44it keeps. importing the dvd as a bunch of chapters04:43
tazgodxhave try changing quality to perfect04:43
tazgodxthats what i always used04:43
MythbuntuGuest44do you select every title. like it says 1 of 16?04:44
tazgodxno04:44
tazgodxonly one of those is the movie04:44
MythbuntuGuest44oh?04:45
MythbuntuGuest44only select the one without the title?04:45
tazgodxif you select view you can watch it to make sure its the movie your ripping04:45
tazgodxonly select the one that is the full movie04:45
MythbuntuGuest44ok got ya. what is the other stuff?04:45
road2elysiumyou could also mkisofs from terminal if you're just having problems with one particular dvd04:45
tazgodxusually like extras on the DVD04:46
tazgodxlike a video of the director talking04:46
tazgodxor deleted scenes04:46
tazgodxor previews04:46
MythbuntuGuest44oh i see now. thanks that make perfect sense04:47
MythbuntuGuest44thanks have a good night04:47
tazgodxif you select view on all of them, it will show you waht it is, and you can choose if you want it or not04:47
tazgodxno prob04:47
MythbuntuGuest51i just installed mythbuntu w/ a hauppaug 350 and i can't get the mythtb to use the composite nor s-video to the tv.04:57
MythbuntuGuest51i have tested with rmmod saa712704:58
tazgodxcan't get TV-OUT on the 350 to work?05:00
MythbuntuGuest51yes05:01
MythbuntuGuest51yes through mythtv05:01
tazgodxi believe there is an option in the mcc to set up TV-OUT throught the 350 s-video05:02
tazgodxdid you set that?05:02
MythbuntuGuest51if i deselect the 350 in the myth setup, i can 'watch tv' on the computer monitor.05:02
MythbuntuGuest51what is mcc?05:03
tazgodx$mcc05:03
tazgodxMythbuntu_Control_Center05:03
MythbuntuGuest51i didn't see that option, but that's what i'm looking for. i'm firing up myth now so i can $mcc while i've got your help. (I've been working on this all day, so I'm grateful for the assistance.)05:04
tazgodxhmmm, i don't see that option anymore05:04
tazgodxwhen you installed intially did you set up the PVR-350 as the output?05:05
MythbuntuGuest51i can't remember since i've been trying many different options.05:06
tazgodxhmm, i haven't tried to set up the 350 output before05:06
GumbyDoes anyone know if this would be a mythfilldatabase or a shedules direct issue..  The "callsign" and "name" tables on my db are all  "Adding Channel 22"  (obviously the channel num is different for each channel) instead of say  "22" and "SNET"05:06
MythbuntuGuest51that mcc, is that accessible through frontend and/or command line?05:07
foxbuntu_Gumby, that seems like you have the wrong credentials in your db setup05:07
Gumbyfoxbuntu_, credentials for what?05:08
foxbuntu_DS05:08
foxbuntu_SD805:08
foxbuntu_ugh05:08
tazgodxMythbuntuGuest51: its the Mythbuntu-Control-Center, its accessible from the desktop menu05:08
foxbuntu_SD05:08
Gumbyfoxbuntu_, the channel fequencies are all correct.  Its just the callsign and name tables that arent getting populated correctly. mythfilldatabase works properly other than those two tables.05:09
foxbuntu_Gumby, remember that your username and password are case sensitive05:09
Gumbythe credentials are perfectly fine. otherwise, I'd have no guide data at all.05:09
foxbuntu_Gumby, you might try to clear and reset it with mythfill05:10
MythbuntuGuest51how do i fire up mcc?05:12
tazgodxexit out of the mythtv frontend, and when you see the desktop click the menu in the top left. and then its one of them. but i don't see that option in there05:12
foxbuntu_MythbuntuGuest51, its in the setup menu or...you can pull up the terminal and "sudo mythbuntu-control-centre"05:13
foxbuntu_tazgodx, MCC is inside of the frontend as well05:13
tazgodxit is?05:13
foxbuntu_yes05:13
tazgodxoh yeah it is, i forgot05:13
tazgodxmy bad05:13
tazgodxfoxbuntu_: do you know how to setup the PVR-350 S-Video out?05:14
MythbuntuGuest51i select it and nothing happens.05:14
foxbuntu_tazgodx, no idea...I do know that the 350 is kind of a pain however05:14
tazgodxyeah, they stop supporting the S-Video out, if i remember correctly. but i thought there was an option somewhere in mythbuntu05:15
tazgodxMythbuntuGuest51: do you not have a normal video card with S-Video out?05:15
MythbuntuGuest51tazgodx - nope on the vid w/ s-video.05:16
MythbuntuGuest51foxbuntu - command line throws 'KeyError: 'w64codecs'" error after building dependency tree05:17
tazgodxAM64 machine05:17
tazgodx?05:17
MythbuntuGuest51yes05:17
tazgodxthere is a known bug with the mcc, there is a fix tho05:18
tazgodxi don't know the link tho...let me see if i can find it05:18
tazgodxgo to mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu05:18
tazgodxand at the bottom05:19
tazgodxthere is a link to the fixed deb05:19
MythbuntuGuest51got it. installing...05:20
MythbuntuGuest51it's up. i've used this (btw: i have the latest mythbuntu). where is the option to select which output on the 350?05:22
MythbuntuGuest51fyi: capture card setup is pvr-x50, pvr-500. vid. device: /dev/video0. probed info: Hauppauge pvr-350.05:23
tazgodxthat should be right05:24
tazgodxyou might have to wait for a real dev to com help. this is about hte extent of my knowledge05:25
tazgodxsorry05:25
MythbuntuGuest51i've tested through command like ivtv utils that the 350 will display test image, etc.(both s-video and composite), so it seems like a mythtv setting somewhere....05:26
MythbuntuGuest51tazgodx - no worries, thanks for the mcc fix, etc.05:27
tazgodxnp05:27
MythbuntuGuest51do you know what remote control option to select in mcc for the 350?05:28
tazgodxi selected the Hauppauge TV Card05:29
tazgodxit works, but i had a few problems with what a few buttons did, but i changed it and it works great now05:29
tazgodxlittle customization05:29
MythbuntuGuest51that's what i chose, but the back/exit button doesn't move menus back.05:30
tazgodxthats one fo the problems i came accross :)05:30
tazgodxgo to ~/.mythtv/lircrc.conf05:30
tazgodxor no05:31
tazgodxits ~/.mythtv/lircrc05:31
MythbuntuGuest51what other cards work w/ a tv?05:32
tazgodxscroll to the Hauppauge_350 section and under back/exit button just make the key Esc and not D05:32
tazgodxyou mean output to the TV?05:33
MythbuntuGuest51yes05:33
tazgodxi have a NVidia 5200FX05:34
tazgodxno fan, and works great05:34
MythbuntuGuest51i'll have to check it out if i can't get the 350 working.... thanks for the lircrc info.05:35
tazgodxi know some people say NVidia is better than ATI, but i like my 520005:35
tazgodxno prob05:35
tazgodxi posted my config somewhere05:36
tazgodxif you want to check it out, but ill have to find it05:36
MythbuntuGuest51sure when you have the spare cycles05:37
tazgodxjust replace the ones you want to use in the lircrc you have in place now05:41
MythbuntuGuest51got it. thank you!05:43
MythbuntuGuest51i put that back/escape change in and that's nice already.05:44
tazgodxno prob, just glad i could somewhat help05:44
tazgodxyeah, that was a big problem i had. they have it maped to 'D' which i have no idea what that really does05:44
MythbuntuGuest51i have a vnc question: i want to vnc to the myth box w/ my mac os x and i've tried a coupld of vnc clients but the myth box garbled in the client.05:46
tazgodxwhat garbled? are you trying to VNC and watch some video?05:48
GumbyMythbuntuGuest51, Ive had that issue here. Not sure what the problem is but I think its a resolution issue. Some res's did it and others didnt05:50
MythbuntuGuest51just the myth menus, nothing special. i've used vnc a lot, but it is unreadable - barely i can see the mythtv menus.05:50
tazgodxthat one is over my head. i haven't had a problem with vnc05:50
tazgodxi love my VNC, i can't see on my TV screen, so my VNC is a lifesaver05:52
MythbuntuGuest51i a lucky one, eh?05:52
tazgodxyou do seem pretty lucky to me05:53
MythbuntuGuest51yeah, that's why i'm trying to get it to work since i'm laying on the floor w/ a 22" old school CRT that can't be there forever....05:53
tazgodxof course, im pretty lucky too. i just got it all put together and running, and my HDD decided to die on me..so now i can't do much....05:53
MythbuntuGuest51bummer. sorry to hear that.05:55
tazgodxyeah, but i wanted a new HDD anyways, just gave me a justified meaning. even tho i can't afford it... :)05:55
MythbuntuGuest51do you think i should do ubuntu and mythtv on their own to get around this 350 problem?05:56
tazgodxnot gonna help i think05:56
MythbuntuGuest51oh, that nvidia 5200 is very affordable. so i would need a hauppauge 250 + 5200?05:57
tazgodxi have a hauppauge 350 and a 520005:57
tazgodxand a PVR-500 too05:57
tazgodxyeah, 5200's are cheap. i was lucky enough to even have one laying around my house :)05:58
MythbuntuGuest51no wonder you can't afford a hdd!<grin>05:58
superm1MythbuntuGuest51, what's wrong with your pvr350?05:58
tazgodxthere he is05:58
superm1have you seen the thread on the forums about doing a pvr-350 with mythbuntu?05:58
MythbuntuGuest51why the 350 if you're using the 5200 for tv out?05:58
tazgodxi got a good deal on the 350, same price as the 150. so i got it. and it came bundled with my remote05:59
MythbuntuGuest51superm1 - i've been combing through them. i'm getting audio to the tv but no image.05:59
superm1MythbuntuGuest51, you know which thread i'm referring to though right?05:59
tazgodxsuperm1: is the master to fixing everything.....he is incredible....06:00
MythbuntuGuest51no. please tell.06:00
superm1http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3521248&postcount=19 but instead of grabbing the x driver from that gz, use this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3531905&postcount=2206:01
tazgodxi have to stop playing with knives in the dark, i just slit my finger open again06:03
MythbuntuGuest51great. thank you. mythtv gives 'unable to initialize video' when i select 'watch tv'. if i command line: rmmod saa712706:03
superm1MythbuntuGuest51, you have to set pvr-350 out in mythtv frontend's options still too06:05
superm1which might not be mentioned in those threads06:05
tazgodxthats where the option is, i was looking in the backend. and the MCC06:05
tazgodxi didn't think about frontend setup06:06
* tazgodx slaps his forehead06:06
superm1yeah i always forget its there too06:06
MythbuntuGuest51where in the front end?06:07
superm1tv settings i think06:07
MythbuntuGuest51tv settings - playback?06:07
superm1you'll have to look06:08
superm1dont know off hand06:08
MythbuntuGuest51i've been in that area most of the day. :) but, i don't see anything for /output/06:08
superm1yup tv settings / playback06:09
tazgodxthere is a whole screen of nothing i blieve, and at the top is a checkbox that says somthign to the extent of enable 350 output06:09
superm1and there is a checkbox06:09
superm1for Use The PVR-350's TV out / MPEG decoder06:09
MythbuntuGuest51on hw decoding setting there's a button to 'use pvr-350 tv out' but that no worky06:10
MythbuntuGuest51video device is set for /dev/video1606:10
superm1this only works once you have X setup to work off the 350 i think06:11
superm1so follow those other links i gave you first06:11
tazgodxok, i think im done with my usfullness. hope you get this working. im heading to bed06:11
superm1night tazgodx06:11
superm1thanks for helping people out tonight :)06:12
superm1hopefully you get your hdd soon06:12
MythbuntuGuest51thanks you tazgodx!06:12
tazgodxi hope so too, :)06:12
tazgodxill help anyone i can. whenever i can, no worries. i know you guys are kinda busy with the dev stuff06:12
tazgodxnight superm1, enjoy mythbuntu MythbuntuGuest51 :)06:13
* tritium is going to need to use alternate CD to install, as only resolution choice from LivecD is 640x480, and ubiquity windows don't resize06:14
tritiumcool, superm1.  I see you merged my changes :)06:16
superm1tritium, oh that's not good.06:17
superm1tritium, you can move the window around with alt and clicking and dragging it06:17
superm1but that's less than ideal06:17
tritiumWhich, my display issue?  That's always been the case.  I've always done alternate CD installs for that reason.06:17
tritiumOh, I'll try the alt trick.06:17
superm1yeah i use it all the time06:18
superm1you can move windows off screen then that normally don't go offscreen06:18
tritiumOnce I get it installed, I can install restricted modules for nvidia, and I'll be all set.06:18
tritiumSweet, that's a handy trick to know.  Thanks!  :)06:18
superm1well in the case of mythbuntu, you can install those "during" install :)06:18
tritiumYeah, I tried that.  But I couldn't seem to restart X and use the new drivers while still using the live CD.06:19
MythbuntuGuest51i've got that x driver installed.06:19
acer_ubuntu_compgreetz06:19
tritiumDoes the alt-click & drag trick work in gnome too?  Or is that xfce-specific?06:20
superm1tritium, it works in gnome too06:20
acer_ubuntu_compwhats the best way to add a second drive for mythtv... (mine fills pretty quickly)06:20
tritiumsuperm1: sweet, thanks again06:20
superm1tritium, whenever i go and use a windows machine on campus i am so lost, i use the alt thing so much now that it feels weird on any OS that doesn't have it06:20
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, well LVM is the way to go06:20
superm1but it is a bit of an annoying process to setup06:21
tritiumsuperm1: I can imagine :)  Which campus?06:21
acer_ubuntu_compso just add the second drive....06:21
superm1tritium, iowa state06:21
acer_ubuntu_compuse LVM to extend my hard drive???06:21
tritiumCool, superm1!06:21
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, add the second drive, and then follow this lvm guide i'm about to link you too06:21
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, *to06:21
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, and then you will move all your recordings over06:21
superm1format your old drive's partition06:21
superm1and then extend it06:22
acer_ubuntu_compslick send link...06:22
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58447306:22
MythbuntuGuest51superm1, that pvr 350 xorg.conf mod is probably only going to fix using X on a the tv, right?06:23
superm1MythbuntuGuest51, that will get X on the tv yes06:24
acer_ubuntu_compawesome... what would be your second choice for doing such a thing (Adding 2nd drive for mythtv)?06:24
superm1after you install that deb though too06:24
superm1MythbuntuGuest51, and make sure you have apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgraded06:24
tritiumsuperm1: I'm trying that in gnome.  It seems to work until you bump up against the panel at the top.  If that happens on xfce, it'll prevent me from getting to the buttons on the bottom of the windows.06:24
superm1MythbuntuGuest51, unless you are running mythbuntu 7.10 final (which i doubt since we haven't announced it yet) :)06:24
tritiumI just need more vertical real estate.06:24
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, well getting a second bigger drive and just using that for recordings06:24
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, or moving extra stuff off this drive that is filling up06:25
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, and then last choice would be move to trunk06:25
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, but moving to trunk can easily bring on more troubles06:25
superm1tritium, where are you grabbing the window?06:25
acer_ubuntu_compsup - you got links with help?06:25
tritiumsuperm1: anywhere06:25
superm1tritium, if you grab it say near the bottom while holding alt you should be able to go above06:26
superm1let me show ya on mine06:26
tritiumNo, it's not letting me move them past the top panel.06:26
acer_ubuntu_compsup - is mythbuntu going to be a distro of it's own?06:27
superm1tritium, http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotga9.png06:27
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, help with what?06:28
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, and its an ubuntu derivative06:28
superm1so yes and no06:28
tritiumsuperm1: thanks.  Hopefully it'll work in xfce.  It's not working on gnome.06:28
superm1eventually we will have our disks built by canonical06:28
superm1tritium, i wonder why it's always let me go above panels like that06:28
tritiumsuperm1: you're talking about xfce, though, right?06:29
superm1tritium, it's let me do it in both before06:29
tritiumHrm, that's strange.  No luck here.06:29
acer_ubuntu_compyer second choice, just adding a drive and not spanning the drives.... also how can i get mythtv to read files on my frenas?06:29
* tritium even tried moving his top panel to the side06:30
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, sorry no links explaining that.  you can handle formating the second drive using gparted06:31
superm1and then its a matter of adding to your /etc/fstab to make sure it mounts06:31
superm1google for both of those :)06:31
tritiumMaybe I'll disable the compiz stuff, and see if it works in metacity...06:32
superm1oh yeah compiz is off for me06:32
superm1didn't even consider that to be a problem06:32
superm1but it can i'm sure06:32
tritiumsweet!06:32
tritiumThat was the problem :)06:32
tritiumNow to decide...should I stay up late and install mythbuntu, or get rest before work tomorrow?  :D06:33
=== bq is now known as toorima
acer_ubuntu_complinuxmce find my freenas pretty easily... Do i just connect with ubuntu? there does not seem to be a way to search the network (for UPnp or whatever ) within mythtv. (Thanks soop - I'm going to investigate the methods you sugg)06:33
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, its shared via samba?06:34
superm1or what?06:34
acer_ubuntu_compsoop, yes...06:34
acer_ubuntu_compsamba06:34
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, you'll probably want to mount it via smbfs, but both nautilus (gnome) and thunar (xfce) should be able to browse samba through their native interfaces06:35
superm1acer_ubuntu_comp, if you mount if via smbfs, you'll be able to use it in all your apps06:35
superm1such as myth06:35
tritiumsuperm1: late night for you?06:35
acer_ubuntu_compsoup: okay, gonna do that right now, hang... (!)06:35
superm1tritium, yeah i'm studying for an exam tomorrow morning06:36
superm1tritium, and this last week or so i've had a lot of really late nights balancing school and finishing touches for mythbuntu stuff06:36
tritiumOh my gosh.  You have an exam the same day you release mythbuntu?  I'm impressed that you could do both.  Good luck with the exam!06:37
superm1tritium, and actually an interview tomorrow too...06:37
superm1it's going to be a long day :)06:37
acer_ubuntu_compsend link to mythbuntu, plz... (grin)06:37
tritiumWow, you rock.  Good luck with that too.06:37
superm1well you know what speaking of which, i better get away from irc for a little bit to  study some more :)06:37
superm1i'll catch up with you folks tomorrow or so06:38
tritiumOkay, take care.  Good night!06:38
superm1night!06:38
foxbuntu_superm1, night06:38
acer_ubuntu_compnight soop... 10q...06:38
Varkahello, i have my mythbuntu  rc up and running nicely but 2 problems remain: i can change keybindings but the change has no effect and i cant connect with another frontend to my server but with mythweb i can06:41
Varkaany ideas how to solve those to little problems? :)06:42
MythbuntuGuest51superm1, any ideas on getting the 350 to work w/o running X to the tv?06:44
VarkaMythbuntuGuest51: im a dvb-user, but i know, that there is a configuration-switch easy to enable in the fronend to activate the tv-out of the 350. is it that what you are searching forß06:48
Varka?06:48
MythbuntuGuest51i've tried that and it doesn't work.06:50
foxbuntu_Varka, where did you change the key-bindings and what are you expecting for the effect?06:51
Varkafoxbuntu_: from within the mythweb and directly from the frontend-config and im expecting the keybindings on the keyboard im using to control the mythtv-ui to change. especially i want to swap +/- functions and F10/F11 functions so that i can control volume on +/-06:53
foxbuntu_Varka, have you tried restarting the frontend since you changed the bindings?06:54
Varkafoxbuntu_: not only the frontend but the backend too several times. the funny thing is, that frontend and mythweb are telling me that i already changed the bindings, but as i press the keys they have the default binding06:56
foxbuntu_Varka, thats strange...can you check inside the frontend and see what the bindings say?06:57
Varkafoxbuntu_: what do you mean with "inside"?06:58
Varkafoxbuntu_: if you mean the "change keybindings" dialogue in the frontend ... yes, as i said, i change the bindings of "stream->volup" to "+" and "stream->voldn" to "-"07:02
foxbuntu_Varka, you can manage key bindings from the setup menus of the frontend07:02
foxbuntu_Varka, thats odd07:04
foxbuntu_I really don't know what to think07:04
Varkathats exactly what I thought ^^07:05
Varkai bet, if i look directely into the mysql-database where those settings are stored in, it would also say that the bindings have changed, but my keyboard just ignores reality07:07
Varkafoxbuntu_: and what can you say about the other problem i have, connecting to my backend from another frontend via lan?07:07
foxbuntu_Varka, its either that or your keyboard is sending a strange signal for those keys07:08
foxbuntu_Varka, you need to enable the MySQL remote access07:08
foxbuntu_that can be done via MCC07:08
Varkafoxbuntu_: i did07:08
foxbuntu_hmm07:08
Varkamythweb is working07:08
foxbuntu_Varka, nano /etc/mysql/my.cnf07:08
Varkak, w807:09
MythbuntuGuest51superm1 was helping me w/ a hauppauge 350 not sending myth to the tv. does anyone know about this?07:09
Varkafoxbuntu_: k, now what to look or change?07:09
foxbuntu_there is a line with ip bindings like 1/3 way down07:10
Varkafoxbuntu_: or do you want me to paste it here?07:10
MythbuntuGuest51he had me going after getting x running on the tv w/ a new driver and xorg.conf change.07:10
foxbuntu_the default is like bind 127.0.0.107:10
foxbuntu_Varka, you can pastebin the whole thing too and I will just look at it07:11
Varka# Instead of skip-networking the default is now to listen only on07:11
Varka# localhost which is more compatible and is not less secure.07:11
Varkabind-address            = 127.0.0.107:11
foxbuntu_Varka, thats it07:11
foxbuntu_change that to whatever your static local ip is of your backend machine07:12
Varkafoxbuntu_: it isnt static its dhcp leased07:12
foxbuntu_Varka, you can use that...however Static is best for backend machines07:12
Varkafoxbuntu_: i know, but my router just sux07:13
foxbuntu_Varka, go ahead and add the DHCP address then07:13
foxbuntu_Varka, the problem is you will have to update this config if the DHCP addy changes07:13
Varkaok, what to restart to make changes active?07:13
Varkain know, i know07:14
foxbuntu_mysql and mythbackend07:14
Varkak07:14
foxbuntu_I assume you already grabbed the password for connecting the remote frontend to the backend correct?07:14
Varkafoxbuntu_: sure, but no success07:17
foxbuntu_Varka, what credentials are you giving to the frontend to connect with?07:17
foxbuntu_I mean07:17
foxbuntu_make sure you are using the username and pass from ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt07:18
foxbuntu_on the backend07:18
Varkafoxbuntu_: you mean /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt, right?07:19
foxbuntu_perhaps :P07:21
foxbuntu_lol yes07:21
foxbuntu_got way too many windows open07:21
Varkafoxbuntu_:  im a step further. the frontend now starts but if i try to start watching tv or using any other function i get the message "could not connect to master server, check if you put in the right ip..blabla"07:25
foxbuntu_did you type in the backend's ip in mythtv-setup?07:26
foxbuntu_go check it there07:26
foxbuntu_should be in general07:26
Varkafoxbuntu_: if you mean the ip of the backend server i had to put into configuring the frontend here on the alternate workstation, yes, i did that and checked it too07:27
foxbuntu_Varka, can you ping the backend from the frontend?07:28
Varkafoxbuntu_: sure i can, nfs, mythweb, a webgallery on the same server, everything is accessable07:29
Varkafoxbuntu_: do i have to change "DBHostName=localhost" in /etc/mysql/my.cnf to the actual ip of the backend perhaps?07:31
foxbuntu_all from the frontend I assume07:31
foxbuntu_Varka, ah yes...you got it07:31
Varkafoxbuntu_: most things i do via console07:31
foxbuntu_Varka, you should use the hostname of the backend there however07:32
Varkafoxbuntu_: so the hostname or the host-ip?07:33
foxbuntu_Varka, then also make sure the hostname has the correct IP resolveing in /etc/hosts07:33
foxbuntu_hostname07:33
* foxbuntu_ really wishes he had paid more attention in his C programming classes07:35
* Varka paid attention there, but his studies were about 8 years in the past07:36
foxbuntu_Varka, I know that feeling07:36
foxbuntu_I spend too much time in the Windows world (a Corp. Infrastructure Consultant) and I have a hard time keeping this str8 from that07:37
Varkaknow that. i have to use vista to not fall behind in knowledge for my work. it just sux07:41
foxbuntu_Varka, I hate Vista07:41
foxbuntu_Varka, good luck with the backend..I gtg (sleep time)07:42
foxbuntu_good luck with the backend07:42
Varkafoxbuntu_: k, sweet dreams07:42
Varkafoxbuntu_: and thx for your  patience07:42
foxbuntu_Varka, no problems07:42
=== behdha is now known as deffcon
deffcongood morning08:19
Varkagood morning deffcon08:48
deffconwhen does the final version come out?08:55
superm1deffcon, all the mirrors are updated, so i have updated the links on the page here: http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads08:58
superm1the announce will be as soon as the install manual is finished up08:58
superm1deffcon, (except the torrent links)08:59
superm1i'm headed back to bed though :)08:59
superm1er one sec.08:59
superm1deffcon, you've got some bugs some time back08:59
superm1that you need to respond to08:59
superm1while i've got you in here08:59
deffconhe superm109:01
superm1hi deffcon09:01
superm1deffcon, would you be able to comment back on bug 144509 when you get a moment?09:02
superm1i've got a bit of a pet peeve leaving bugs open09:02
* superm1 kicks ubotu 09:02
superm1bug 14450909:02
superm1https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-control-centre/+bug/14450909:02
deffconyes i know i reported some bugs, i have to see wich ones are resolved and which ones are still open09:03
superm1deffcon, okay just wanted to make sure you remembered to comment back :)09:03
superm1have fun, i'm off to bed again :)09:03
deffconok i will today09:03
deffconsome other things to do?09:03
deffconcan i upgrade from rc09:04
superm1look at that link i gave you09:04
deffconsorry rtfm09:04
superm1it discusses what needs to be done to upgrade from rc09:04
superm1:)09:04
deffconhaha09:04
deffconto quick09:04
superm1okay nn09:04
deffconi can report antoher strange thing09:04
deffconwhen xvmc standard is enabled in the configueration menu is enabled playing dvd's won't work09:05
deffconnvidia 620009:05
deffconsuperm1 no updates in final release when upgrading09:09
deffcon?09:09
acer_ubuntu_companyone know how to allow me to access mysql on my network?11:03
acer_ubuntu_comptryin to setup a frontend on another pc, won't connect...11:04
directhex|workacer_ubuntu_comp, check the mysql config file. it might be set to only bind on 127.0.0.1 - comment out the line, or make it bind on a real LAN IP11:10
acer_ubuntu_comphoo man I did that... restarted n all can't get it to go...11:10
acer_ubuntu_compI'll definitely try that again tho....11:11
acer_ubuntu_compthe file in /etc/mysql - my.conf?11:11
acer_ubuntu_compmy.cnf11:11
acer_ubuntu_comphmmm seems as though there is a file there with bind for mythtv as well.  although i could login with mysql admin GUI...11:13
acer_ubuntu_compdo you know how to stop/restart mysql as well (so i don't have to reboot every time ;)_11:14
directhex|workinvoke-rc.d mysql restart11:16
acer_ubuntu_compneato... here's ma error:11:18
acer_ubuntu_compMySQL Error Nr. 104511:18
acer_ubuntu_compAccess denied for user 'root'@'MediaPC.elp.rr.com' (using password: YES)11:18
directhex|workwhat causes that error?11:19
acer_ubuntu_compwhen i try to log in with mysql admin (GUI) using the IP11:20
acer_ubuntu_compit works when i try to login with localhost or 127.0.0.111:20
acer_ubuntu_compdo i have to have my ip set statically? I'm currently trying to access an address that is DHCP assigned... just while I'm tinkering with it....11:26
directhex|workstrongly recommended to use a static IP for a server11:26
directhex|workunless you have static DHCP, which is unfortunately not possible with many home routers11:27
acer_ubuntu_compalso setting in mythbuntu control center is set to enable mysql service...11:27
acer_ubuntu_compyou think it would matter? I can reserve the IP in IPCop... I cannot even log on locally using the IP add, just localhost and 127...11:28
directhex|workyou changed what mysql is binding to and restarted the service?11:29
Varkasuperm1: i wont have to reinstall if i have the rc already up and running, do i? updating is everything i need, right?11:31
acer_ubuntu_compyessir... what about some kind of mysql user restriction...11:31
acer_ubuntu_compactuaklly just commented out the bind line....11:31
acer_ubuntu_compi got it....11:33
acer_ubuntu_compdirect! i logged in to mysql admin gui locally, then added:11:34
acer_ubuntu_compclicked on my user, then add host - any host...11:34
acer_ubuntu_compI sure appreciate you hanging with me on this11:35
directhex|worki'm no DB admin expert11:35
acer_ubuntu_comphmmm11:36
acer_ubuntu_compwell you're helpn me... hmmm i can log into mysql admin using the ip from local machine and remote machine... BUT11:37
acer_ubuntu_compi still can't log into mythtv with those settings...11:37
directhex|workyou shouldn't be using "root" as a user with mythtv anyway11:38
acer_ubuntu_comphehe your right.... I need to make a user mythtv... with all priv for mythtv, you know how11:39
acer_ubuntu_comp?11:39
directhex|workit should be taken care of automatically by the ubuntu mythtv packages11:41
acer_ubuntu_compsomething went wrong, but i think i got it have to assign database assigned privs...11:44
acer_ubuntu_compgot it bud... and with a mythtv account too... mysql admin gui helped... 10q 10q, ya were the good luck i needed... hehe takes care11:49
MythbuntuGuest62hi all13:42
skiltzhi13:56
skiltzDoes anybody can help me? I've Partial Lock (L__) with my dvt-t card in mythTV but not with tzap and Kaffeine14:24
skiltzI've a clone card and so I've add the dib0700 and the mt2060 modules14:25
Confuzedany torrent trackers for today's release?15:03
dwf_starbandi just installed mediabuntu and on startup got a box saying something about not detecting resolution and starting in low graphics or something like that, now the mythbuntu control center is too large for the screen, how can I get the resolution right again?15:58
MythbuntuGuest67I have been doing some reading, How do I get "HD" output?  Do I just need a graphics card with DVI out that has a high max resolution?18:04
benanzoI'd like to send a message that pops up on Mythfrontend while I'm at work.  I believe this is possible but how?18:45
DaveMorrislirc question here. I've got a mythtv specific lircrc to remap my remote wonder 2.  However sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.  Any ideas?18:54
tazgodxyou replace ~/.mythtv/lircr and ~.lircrc18:57
tazgodx?18:57
tazgodx~/.lircrc18:58
DaveMorris1 is a symblink to the other19:00
DaveMorrisThe first release of Mythbuntu is  out.  Grab it before the serves melt at http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads Release notes at http://www.mythbuntu.org/7.10/Release_notes19:02
tazgodxapt-get upgrade takes me to final from RC right?19:06
DaveMorrisyeah, it's on 1 of those links as well19:07
DaveMorrisnot sur which19:07
pdragonwoo19:15
pdragondistupgrade from RC should work ok, right?19:16
tgm4883_laptopshould19:17
tgm4883_laptopthere are upgrade notes on the website19:17
DaveMorrispdragon: covered here - http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads19:17
pdragoncool. will give it a shot when i get home19:20
pdragondownloading/seeding the torrent now19:20
pdragonyou guys want to be slashdotted? :)19:26
tgm4883_laptopIMO the more the better, ask superm1_19:27
pdragonsuperm1_: ping19:27
superm1_hi pdragon19:27
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superm1_pdragon, what's up?19:29
tgm4883_laptopDon't forget to digg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:29
pdragonwant to try and be slashdotted?19:29
superm1_pdragon, sure19:29
superm1_pdragon, you going to submit us?19:29
pdragonsure19:29
pdragonnever submitted a story there before. dunno if that makes a difference19:29
superm1_pdragon, probably it does19:30
superm1_pdragon, the people that submit more stories get more priority19:30
pdragonwell, can still give it a shot if you want19:31
DaveMorrislet someone else pick it up19:31
pdragonok19:32
superm1_well it doesn't hurt to have more than one person submit it on /. i thought?19:32
superm1_i dont know though19:32
pdragoni'm sure they get tons of duplicate submissions. i think they do base publishing a story on that19:33
pdragonalso goes through the Firehose19:34
solarbabyI could really go for a Taco Burger19:37
DaveMorrissuperm1 lirc question here. I've got a mythtv specific lircrc to remap my remote wonder 2.  However sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.  Any ideas?19:38
superm1_DaveMorris, not really.19:38
tgm4883_laptoppdragon, ping19:43
pdragonyes?19:43
tgm4883_laptopi see you haven't dugg it yet19:43
tgm4883_laptopis your keyboard broke?19:43
pdragonlol19:43
tgm4883_laptopDon't forget to http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:43
tgm4883_laptopbdmurray, hope you had fun at the release party, oh and Don't forget to http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:44
tgm4883_laptopaidans, thats kinda like my nephews name.  Don't forget to http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:44
tgm4883_laptopcann_, can you digg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:44
DaveMorrishis just gonna go through the list19:44
tgm4883_laptopDaveMorris, I think you can digg it from the UK  Don't forget to http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:45
tgm4883_laptopdirecthex|work, Digg it on your break  Don't forget to http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:45
DaveMorrisalready have :P19:45
tgm4883_laptopfrink_, great server.  Don't forget to http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:45
pdragongood grief19:45
tgm4883_laptopBinary_Crap36, 0100010001101001011001110110011100100000011010010111010019:46
tgm4883_laptopin other words digg it19:46
tgm4883_laptophttp://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:46
pdragonhrm... well, i would digg it but digg's captacha for making a new account won't work19:46
tgm4883_laptopbeavis, dont be a butthead and digg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:47
tgm4883_laptop:( i have to go to lunch19:47
tgm4883_laptopso the rest of you better digg it19:47
tgm4883_laptopor there will be h*** to pay when i get back19:48
tgm4883_laptoplike you keescook19:48
pdragontell digg to fix their captcha and i will19:48
tgm4883_laptopbett digg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final19:48
tazgodxyeah diggs captcha isn't workign well. try refreshing and geting a new one19:49
pdragontgm4883: http://hardware.slashdot.org/firehose.pl  Firehose!19:53
keescooktgm4883: you crack me up.  :)19:53
tazgodxmaybe you should build it into the final release, make people digg after the install or they can't use mythbuntu... :)19:59
pdragonwow... i'm the only seed outside the linuxtracker original seed in the torrent right now :p20:04
pdragon20 peers so far tho :)20:05
bronson*wow*20:06
bronsonI just set up mythbuntu yesterday.  It was trivial.  Amazing job.20:07
bronsonmythbuntu is really impressive.20:08
MythbuntuGuest05Hi all.20:09
MythbuntuGuest05I've been playing around with mythtv on 7.04 for a while now and there are a couple of things I've been unable to resolve.20:09
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MythbuntuGuest051st how can I have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend be launched automatically on my svideo?  It currently starts on my vga output.20:12
MythbuntuGuest05I have a nvidia GX 5200 and am using the nvidia driver.20:12
pdragonMythbuntuGuest05: Try setting the TVOutFormat option in xorg.conf20:13
pdragonsee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456 for an example20:13
MythbuntuGuest052nd after recording live tv, when I go to watch what I've recorded it shows that I have x number of live recordings but when I pull up the list of live recordings there are none?20:14
pdragoni had that problem, too. try deleting what's listed as old live tv recordings, exit the frontent then restart it20:15
pdragoni only had that problem in the alpha, though20:15
pdragonwhat version are you running?20:15
MythbuntuGuest05I'm using the Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" the svideo output is working I would just like mythfront end to automatically start on my svidio screen.20:16
pdragonyou have dual-screen?20:16
MythbuntuGuest05yes, dual desktops not really cloned, if I could clone them that would work also.  I don't know how to do that though.20:17
MythbuntuGuest05I'm running the latest version of mythtv20:17
pdragoni'm not sure either. i had trouble getting applications to start on specific screens in 7.0420:17
pdragon7.10 is supposed to have better dual-screen support20:18
MythbuntuGuest05I was thinking of trying 7.10 tonight.20:18
pdragonis your machine just for mythtv or do you use it as a regular desktop as well?20:19
MythbuntuGuest05it's really just for mythtv20:20
pdragonmight want to try installing with the mythbuntu CD then20:20
MythbuntuGuest05yea I'm downloading the iso right now20:20
MythbuntuGuest05I guess I'll just try out mythbuntu and see if all my problems go away.20:21
MythbuntuGuest05Thanks for the help20:21
pdragoni have an nvidia 5500. i do have to boot the installer in safe graphics mode for it to work on my tv20:21
pdragonother than that it works fine20:21
pdragonso, if you get a blank screen after the progress bar finishes, try booting with safe graphics mode instead20:21
MythbuntuGuest05I haven't had problems like that20:21
MythbuntuGuest05or do you mean in mythbuntu you had those issues?20:22
pdragonok. just letting you know. i helped someone else that had a 5200 and had a similar issue as me20:22
MythbuntuGuest05cool thanks20:22
pdragonwith the mythbuntu installer CD20:22
pdragonjust during install. when it finished installing it all worked fine20:22
MythbuntuGuest05thanks for the heads up20:23
MythbuntuGuest05Do you know if I can completly disable the vga output and only enable the svideo output?20:24
pdragonon dual-screen, i don't know20:24
pdragonif you just have your tv plugged in via svideo it should work fine20:24
pdragonmine does20:24
MythbuntuGuest05does mythbuntu attempt to lanch on the svideo screen by default if it's avaliable?20:25
pdragoni don't know for certain. one of the devs would know better20:26
pdragonmine did default to svideo when it was the only thing plugged in20:26
MythbuntuGuest05ah ok20:26
pdragonsome part of the installer didn't like normal graphics mode on my video card or tv tho20:26
samson--pdragon: same20:28
samson--pdragon: safe graphics for me during install20:28
tazgodxtgm4883: you around?20:48
* tgm4883_laptop checks the digg history20:52
* tgm4883_laptop continues hounding people20:53
tgm4883_laptoptherethinker, I think, scratch that, i rethink that you should digg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final20:54
tgm4883_laptopsolarbaby, everything under the sun should digg it20:55
tgm4883_laptophttp://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final20:55
tgm4883_laptoppopey, thats a cool name, now digg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final20:55
tgm4883_laptopsamson--, summon some strength and digg it  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final20:56
tgm4883_laptopMitoTranin, don't you like to digg it  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final20:56
tgm4883_laptopeveryone, the only way to get me to stop, is to digg it   http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final20:56
tgm4883_laptopthis means you frank23 gcleric Koffa killefiz meta-paonia and mindframe20:57
tgm4883_laptopgrndslm, it would be a grand slam if you dugg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final20:57
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest05, you're a guest, but you can still digg it20:57
tgm4883_laptopmAd_Hoc, some people will be mad if you don't digg it20:58
tgm4883_laptophttp://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final20:58
Koffaffs20:58
tazgodxtgm4883_laptop: hey, i have a problem21:01
tgm4883_laptopdid you digg it?21:01
tazgodxdid you look?21:01
tgm4883_laptopyes21:02
tgm4883_laptopbut i see no digg21:02
tgm4883_laptopjust a comment21:02
tazgodxi did digg, it. but it was giving errors for like 20 mins21:02
tazgodxguess ill do it again21:02
tazgodxim #2421:03
tgm4883_laptopok then no problem21:03
tazgodxso, out of nowhere since you trying that MRE, i can't search on mythweb21:04
pdragonthere, i dug it21:04
tgm4883_laptophmm21:04
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, sec i'll check mine21:05
tgm4883_laptopgive me something to search for21:05
tazgodxhouse21:05
tazgodxtis what i searched for21:05
tgm4883_laptopany errors?21:05
tazgodxi get "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 50 bytes) in"21:06
tgm4883_laptopstrange21:06
tgm4883_laptopsec21:06
tazgodx"/usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/search.php on line 333"21:09
tazgodxthat also21:09
tazgodxif it helps21:09
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu, ping21:11
tazgodxdo you have this problem too?21:11
tgm4883_laptopmine searches fine21:11
tgm4883_laptopim hoping foxbuntu has looked at that code21:11
tgm4883_laptopi did find one instance on google21:12
tgm4883_laptophttp://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/384321:12
tazgodxguess this could be part of my failing HDD, possibly21:13
tazgodxmy new drive can't come fast enough21:13
tgm4883_laptopTari, directhex whats up?21:37
* pdragon prepares for more digg spam21:37
tgm4883_laptopnooooooooo21:38
tgm4883_laptopi think i have been throttled21:38
directhextgm4883, the moon! the moon is definitely up21:39
tgm4883_laptopi went from seeding 1.8Mb/s to < 40k/s21:39
tgm4883_laptopdirecthex, you know what else is up?21:39
tgm4883_laptophttp://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final21:39
tgm4883_laptopyou should digg it21:39
directhexi don't do web2.021:39
directhexweb2.0 is scary21:39
tgm4883_laptopI wonder if Tari will beat you to digging it21:39
directhexi stick with web1.23-svn2006072421:40
Tarino, I won't21:40
pdragonmy ISP probably isn't happy with me this week. started seeding Gutsy on day one and now added mythbuntu to it today21:40
tgm4883_laptop:(21:40
tgm4883_laptopbunch of anti diggers21:40
tgm4883_laptopif you don't digg it then you hate freedom21:40
pdragonafter a week, ubuntu is still at 596 seeders21:40
pdragonerr21:40
pdragonpeers21:40
pdragon3189 seeders21:41
frank23tgm4883_laptop: hey I registered just to digg! ;)21:44
tgm4883_laptopgood to hear21:44
* tgm4883_laptop moves frank23 into preferred users21:44
frank23tgm4883_laptop: lol.  But I think a lot of people on digg feel there is an overload of ubuntu related articles on digg.21:45
frank23they haven't seen the light21:46
tgm4883_laptopeh, they can think what they want21:46
solarbabyHeres a weird new bug with the most recent version http://paste-it.net/408822:38
solarbabywell I can't say its a bug, but it never made you put the cd in before to download from the repositories22:38
superm1solarbaby, its supposed to be a convenience thing22:39
superm1solarbaby, but you can turn that off22:39
tgm4883yea i hate that too22:39
superm1by going into Software Sources22:39
superm1under system22:39
solarbabysuperm1: Oh..  I dont like it :)22:39
tgm4883it's a convenience thing from ubuntu22:39
solarbabysuperm1: I see..  I guess that makes sense if you dont have internet22:40
solarbabysuperm1: so anyways.. I installed this bugger a few times.. cause it just didn't want to make a different feature work every time i installed it.. but this time it feels better22:40
superm1solarbaby, by a few times you mean final a few times, or you mean a few times over rc,beta,final22:41
solarbabysuperm1: I really dont know what to make out of it to tell you the truth..  but if it works on the 3rd go then that says something22:41
solarbabysuperm1: final a few times22:41
superm1really?22:41
superm1what sort of troubles?22:41
solarbabysuperm1: last time for the life of me I couldn't make lirc work, and another time I couldn't make any frontends work22:42
solarbabysuperm1: and Im pretty sure the mistakes weren't mine.. I've done this a few times now22:42
solarbabysuperm1: but who knows really22:42
superm1solarbaby, well for everyone else's sake, i hope they were yours :)22:43
solarbabysuperm1: i agree22:43
solarbabysuperm1: could be my hardware22:43
solarbabysuperm1: I will be sure to keep you updated on everything though..22:43
superm1solarbaby, great :)22:44
tafkazhi...what would i need to install a complete new mythtv (with mythbuntu) without loosing my config...22:44
tafkazi have a mysqldumb.22:44
solarbabytafkaz: I've never imported a database sucessfully.. even when following directions :)22:44
tafkazand a copy of my xorg.conf, lirc-config files ...is that enough....22:45
tafkazhm....so that would mean...i will have to rebuild the whole thing ?22:45
tafkazthats pretty odd22:45
solarbabysuperm1: I've not been sucessfull with my Hauppauge 350 TV out..  tried following your most recent conversation on the bulletin boards but short of recompiling my kernal nothing worked22:45
tafkazactually its mainly the channel settings that is a pain in the a** to recover manually.22:46
solarbabytafkaz: if your using Schedules Direct, and you configured the channels you want on their site..  then MythTV should just use what you configured on their site22:47
tafkazthe point is that due to some hardware incompatibilities i installed a 32 bit system then....22:47
tafkazand now with ubuntu 7.10 everything is going to work with 6422:47
solarbabytafkaz: that sounds good22:48
tafkazi am only using direct EPG data from DVB-S22:48
tgm4883tafkaz, did you backup your recordings22:48
solarbabytafkaz: I dont use DVB-s so you've lost me on that one22:48
tafkazso the EPG is not really a problem...22:48
tafkazwell....i have all my recordings on a separate pasrtition which i wouldnt want to touch22:48
solarbabytafkaz: I wish you luck following instructions on the Forum for Database backup..  they seem like good directions but somehow I managed to get it wrong twice22:49
tafkazif i install mythbuntu....i let it do what it does...then drop the database, create mythconverg and dump my data in...right ?22:50
solarbabytafkaz: I think you should talk to superm122:51
tafkazhehe....ok thanx anyways !22:51
solarbabytafkaz: not a prob22:51
pdragontgm4883: upgrade from RC to Final was fine. Looks like most of the updates were in the installer? didn't notice any updates for mythbuntu in the update manager22:51
solarbabyI like the new default theme it looks very nice22:51
superm1pdragon, you need to install the new theme22:51
pdragonyeah i got that22:52
superm1it wasnt in update-manager22:52
pdragondefinitely like it better :)22:52
superm1otherwise, everything should have came through apt22:52
superm1and yeah most of it was in the installer22:52
solarbabysuperm1: get out of my head or pay rent22:52
superm1haha22:52
tafkazhm....where are mythttvs settings ? stored in mythconverg also ?22:52
superm1everything for mythtv setting wise is in mythconverg tafkaz22:53
tafkazso recovering the db really should do the job !22:53
superm1in theory22:54
superm1:)22:54
tafkazhope i was right....install mythbuntu, drop mythconverg, create mythconverg and then dump the backuped database (32 MB) into the empty mythconverg22:54
superm1tafkaz, you will need to update your recordings location22:54
superm1in mythtv-setup afterward22:54
superm1and probably refresh your tuners too22:54
tafkazyou mean the directory where the recordings should go....(in my case /mythtv/recordings22:55
tafkazwill the old recordings be refound ?22:55
tafkazbtw congratulation to your first stable release...22:56
tafkazi'm really looking forward to get my hands on it22:56
pdragonyeah, i've enjoyed helping the little bit i have :)22:57
superm1tafkaz, well we store recordings in LSB (linux standards base) locations22:57
superm1so ours are in /var/lib/mythtv22:57
superm1/var/lib/mythtv/recordings actually22:57
tafkazhm....ok but i can change that22:58
superm1so you'll either need to make /mythtv/recordings22:58
superm1or symlink that22:58
superm1or something similar22:58
superm1but yeah it can be changed22:58
superm1just remember to set the permissions appropriately on it22:58
tafkazwell as i have a partition for /mythtv (i know very standard disconform...)22:58
tafkazthat i will not touch at all, everything should be in place already...22:59
tafkazso i would only adjust some dir-settings in myth22:59
superm1well in theory that should be it then22:59
tafkazhm...23:00
superm1you can backup your configs for lirc and such too in case you dont like ours23:00
tafkazyup did that already....as i am not very keen to reconfigure it all just in case i dont !23:00
tafkazhm....thinking it over...maybe it is not the worst idea to use the standard locations23:01
pdragoni use /opt for my recording locations23:02
pdragon/opt/mythtv23:02
tafkazi would have to copy the recordings to /var/lib/mythtv23:02
tafkazwell....nahhh !23:02
tafkaznever mind.....23:02
tafkazto much work23:02
tafkazi leave it to /mythtv23:02
directhex/data/MythTV !23:04
tafkazhehe...23:04
tafkazseems like not a lot of people had LSB in their minds when configuring...23:05
tafkazwhat about those weekly builds that i so much started loving23:06
tafkazwill i use them again, or is that already part of mythbuntu anyway23:06
MythbuntuGuest02To get HD out, all I need is a card with DVI out that has a good Max Resolution, right?  Then use a dvi to HDMI cable.23:12
directhexand a monster CPU23:12
MythbuntuGuest02monster cpu ... i have a AMD64 3800+23:13
MythbuntuGuest02What do you think?23:13
directhexbaby cpu. should be okay for mpeg223:13
MythbuntuGuest02really? so what kind of cpu are you talking about?23:14
directhexhigh end c2d, for h26423:14
MythbuntuGuest02ugh. I really thought I could run HDHomeRun and record/watch HD channels.  I should have come here and tld you guys my build before ibought everything23:16
MythbuntuGuest02its too late for me to return everything23:16
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest02, is it an X2?23:16
tgm48833800+ should be fine, even single core23:17
MythbuntuGuest02Its a Athlon 64 3800+ Socket AM2.23:19
MythbuntuGuest02This is the first hd box im trying to build, but i have someone else wanting one from me23:19
MythbuntuGuest02and I am trying to figure out a good build on new egg23:20
tgm4883well anything over 3GHZ is in the HD range23:21
tgm4883Preferably you should get a core 2 duo23:21
MythbuntuGuest02I was thinking of a fanless DVI w/ Svideo/HDTV out pci E 16x, a micro atx mobo, 2 gigs of ram, and an AMD X223:21
MythbuntuGuest02oh?23:21
MythbuntuGuest02ok23:21
tgm4883i have both a X2 3800+ and  a Core 2 Duo and my C2D beats my X2 hands down23:22
tgm4883lets see23:22
tgm4883C2D 630023:22
MythbuntuGuest02arg, I wonder if newegg will tkea back the stuff i just ordered .. .even though it doesn't give me the option of refunding anymore23:22
tgm4883what exactly are you planning on doing with the HD?23:23
tgm4883and how much?23:23
MythbuntuGuest02just local channels over cable23:23
MythbuntuGuest02the free ones23:23
tafkazok guys...i am off to reinstall my pundit with the brandnew mythbntu !23:23
tafkazcross your fingers for me if you want23:24
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest02, then if you can't return it, it should still be ok23:24
MythbuntuGuest02ok, thanks for the advice tgm4883; next time i know to go with a C2D23:25
tgm4883np23:26
MythbuntuGuest02tgm4883, could i use a mobo that has DVI out, or should i get a decent nvidia heatsink card with dvi out23:27
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest02, a board with nvidia that has onboard video should work.  I use an onboard video nVidia 6200 vga23:27
tgm4883since my tv has vga in23:28
tgm488340 diggs23:28
tgm4883the real question is, have you dugg it http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final23:29
superm1tgm4883, you crack me up23:29
tgm4883EVERYONE, superm1 has been cracked up.  The only way to fix him is to DIGG IT  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final23:30
solarbabysuperm1: everythign I need seems to be working..  Im happy..  Thanks!23:30
tgm4883solarbaby 42 people can't be wrong.  Digg it23:31
solarbabysuperm1: and now that I have a 500 gig recording drive.. I feel stable23:31
MythbuntuGuest02tgm4883 - i just dugg it and I am burning the CD right now.  I had a wierd Nvidia graphics problem with 7.10 beta.  Hopefully this will fix it23:31
MythbuntuGuest02for some reaosn my Svideo out would make 1/3 of the screen discolored23:31
tgm4883hmm23:31
tgm4883what driver?23:31
solarbabyAnyone using a Hauppauge 350 with TV out?  Thats something I wouldn't mind working for me23:32
MythbuntuGuest02tried the restricted driver, and turned on svideo out which discolored the screen on both the monitor and svideo.  I then disabled it and my screen was fixed.23:32
tgm4883what resolution?23:33
solarbabyMy next mythtvserver im going to buy everything on the top recommended list as far as hardware goes..  then again the next one will be ment to record HD23:33
tgm4883keep in mind that the resolution for svideo maxes out at about 480i23:33
MythbuntuGuest02hmm, not sure but it wasn't on the lowest.23:33
tgm4883solarbaby, rumor has it you can only do HD if you digg it23:34
MythbuntuGuest02I'll try to reinstall again.  I just finished burning the CD23:34
solarbabyI really can't wait to see what XBMC does with their linux one thats in the works23:34
MythbuntuGuest02i'll keep my resolution down23:34
solarbabyIm not sure what digging it really means23:34
tgm4883*gasp*23:34
tgm4883http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final23:34
MythbuntuGuest02thanks for the help23:34
MythbuntuGuest02brb23:34
tgm4883np23:34
tgm4883superm1, did you digg it?23:36
superm1tgm4883, of course.23:36
tgm4883superm1, what do you think about kicking puppies?  Good or bad?23:36
superm1kicking puppies?23:36
superm1huh?23:36
tgm4883is it a good thing or bad thing23:36
superm1um23:37
solarbabytgm4883: so I have to dig it on the website and then I will be able to upgrade to HD? hahah  I'll dig it anyways! haha23:37
superm1generally bad?23:37
tgm4883You heard it here first.  Not digging it = kicking puppies23:37
solarbabybefore I digg it with my email address, who owns this site?23:37
tgm4883http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final23:37
tgm4883who owns digg.com?23:38
solarbabyyeah23:38
tgm4883um23:38
tgm4883sec23:38
tgm4883http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digg23:38
solarbabydo they exist to use email adddress's for spam?23:38
tgm4883hmm23:39
tgm4883i dont think so23:39
tgm4883superm1, comments ^^23:39
solarbabyI'd like to digg it but I can't think of a better reason for them to exist23:39
superm1solarbaby, i dont get any spam out of digg personally23:39
solarbabysuperm1: sounds good23:39
solarbabysuperm1: I trust you23:39
solarbabysuperm1: hehe23:39
tgm4883hmm, maybe i should get superm1 to spam the digg it message23:40
solarbabytgm4883: superm1 could tell me pigs have wings in the next version, and i'd believe him23:40
tgm4883arg23:41
tgm4883I don't know how this top secret specs get out23:41
solarbabyheh23:41

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