[00:00] dattas, depends if you've apt-get update/upgraded since then [00:00] it was a known issue around rc or beta time [00:01] i have upgraded [00:01] dattas, then try to regenerate the password and restart gdm or the computer [00:01] and it should work out correctly [00:01] i have [00:01] regenerate by using vnc4password right? [00:01] regenerate using mcc [00:01] $mcc [00:02] using mythbuntu-control-centre [00:02] on the services tab [00:02] oh, i have done that then [00:02] using reconfigure [00:02] and by disabling [00:02] then enabling [00:02] yeah that re-generates the password and puts it in /root/.vnc [00:03] i know that the vnc server is not even starting, however i can start it manually, but then i only get a terminal [00:06] I just did a fresh install of mythbuntu rc does that mean its a bug with the install? [00:06] possibly [00:07] dattas: ok. is there a solution? [00:07] dattas, it starts from X, not as its own process [00:07] check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [00:07] and you will see information about it loading the vnc module [00:09] should i post it? [00:09] the part about the vnc [00:09] (II) LoadModule: "vnc" [00:10] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vnc [00:10] (II) UnloadModule: "vnc" [00:10] (EE) Failed to load module "vnc" (module does not exist, 0) [00:13] dattas, you dont have vnc4server installed it would sound like then [00:13] but why can i run the vnc4server manually then? [00:14] I don't even get that lol [00:16] oh wait... hm restarted it again and it works all of a sudden... how odd [00:16] the package vnc4server provides /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libvnc.so which is the module loaded into x [00:17] lol it works now but it is taking forever while "Performing Autostart..." [00:18] superm1: it appears to me that one of the pros you listed, specifying MySQL root password, is only true for Advanced Install. True? [00:18] dattas, um do you have the splash screen turned on for some reason? [00:18] dattas, that thing gave people a LOT of trouble [00:18] tritium, yeah [00:19] ah i think i did turn it on... how do i disable it? [00:19] superm1: same for mythweb password? [00:19] at least the easy method to do so [00:19] tritium, no mythweb password you can do otherwise [00:19] dattas, well if you ever get logged on, its under one of the settings options [00:19] i.e., in the standard install? [00:19] for xfce [00:19] you cannot disable it from command? [00:19] tritium, you can do and change mythweb password both way [00:19] dattas, i dont know off hand which config file its in [00:19] okay, thanks, superm1 [00:19] but its in ~/.config [00:19] somewhere [00:20] so will it login eventually? [00:20] from the tests that we had with that login splash screen: yes [00:21] but it took forever [00:21] you can always just blow away ~/.config [00:21] it rebuilds it all [00:21] upon login [00:21] hm... [00:21] * TheShadow smacks head against wall [00:21] TheShadow, what'd you do? [00:21] what all will it do? [00:22] Nothing I just can't get vnc to work [00:22] will i have to reconfigure mythtv? [00:22] dattas, no that just blows away xfce settings [00:22] ok sweet [00:22] and loads the defaults from /etc/xdg/mythbuntu [00:23] is there a way to enable XDMCP from the command line? reading the screen is difficult [00:24] TheShadow, did you check your xorg.conf to see if you had those options? [00:25] superm1: they weren't there I added them [00:25] and did a gdm restart [00:26] TheShadow, i've got to run for multiple hours. leave this all in a forum posting on our forums if you dont get it sorted out and i can try to work with you on it there. [00:27] ok [00:29] I love mythbuntu by the way, and thanks for the help [00:29] superm1, ps3 xubuntu 7.10 sucks. make ps3 mythbuntu 8.04 unsucky plz! [00:31] directhex, $spec :) cya guys [00:33] superm1: we'll talk later about the documentation? [00:33] I'm nearly finished. [00:33] heh [00:33] directhex, that was write a spec about it [00:34] since mythbot is dead [00:34] tgm4883, yes, i know. i guessed that much. i'll wait for my "ps3 linux is an utter shambles" article to land first [00:34] ah ok [00:34] what the diff between the powerpc version and the ps3 version? [00:35] boot loader, drivers, and general polish [00:35] ah [00:37] ubuntu manages the middle one well, screws up the former & latter totally [00:38] Anyone... please how the heck do I enable xdmcp via the command line? superm1 I changed the dpi it doesn't to appear have helped at all [00:40] anyway, bedtime [00:46] * TheShadow bashes the keyboard against the wall [00:47] you know this wasn't remotely this difficult with Ubuntu Feisty with Mythtv installed [01:54] hey guys, how do I reconfigure my mysql package? [01:55] you see, I made this problem by telling it my address was 'localhost' instead of 127.0.0.1 :( [01:58] you put the wrong address in which? [01:58] when installing myth [01:58] or something else? [01:58] myth [01:58] ...I'm really lost [01:58] my mysql thing needs updated to read 127.0.0.` [01:58] is this a backend? [01:58] 'or a frontend [01:58] its both [01:59] okay then dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [01:59] normal desktop + front and back [01:59] okay [01:59] followed by dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common [02:01] well, it changed those. But it's still not working [02:01] I thought I might have needed to dpkg-reconfigure the mysql thing itself [02:02] okay.... [02:02] it said 'failed to create database' [02:03] access denied for mythtv@localhost [02:03] gahhh.... [02:04] I'mj completely removing the packages and starting from scratch now [02:04] kolby, just purge it all [02:04] yeah [02:04] kolby, is this gutsy? [02:05] yup [02:05] kolby, then yeah purge mysql-server-5.0, mythtv-* [02:05] I didn't install it properly I suppose [02:05] and I would say install mcc [02:05] okay [02:05] it avoids a lot of this [02:05] mcc? [02:05] ok yeah [02:05] lol. I didn't know about it at first [02:05] kolby, www.mythbuntu.org [02:06] I came from Feisty... so [02:06] and follow Add to Ubuntu [02:06] all right. brb [02:11] superm1_: d'oh!! did the uk mirror master's apache config break? [02:11] superm1_: all isos were just wiped during an rsync [02:11] keescook, woah yuck! [02:11] Daviey, !! ^ [02:11] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41603/ [02:12] :( [02:12] keescook, hopefully Daviey can sort that out quick before any other mirrors that are rsyncing break too... [02:12] keescook, we moved mythbuntu.org to a vhost on uk mirror [02:13] * keescook nods [02:13] keescook, i'm not sure why that would have affected things though [02:13] any ideas? [02:13] because the cdimages vhost is still intact [02:13] no clue; maybe the rsync directory changed somehow [02:14] oh that's possible [02:14] keescook, yeah they used to be in /var/www [02:14] but aren't anymore. [02:14] that would be probably the cause [02:15] * keescook nods [02:15] okay... I'm still getting anywhere. [02:15] keescook, can you try again? [02:16] i just made some symlinks around on the box [02:16] superm1_: sure, one sec [02:16] ...grr.... brb I'm going to try again [02:18] superm1_: seems to be working -- files are coming down again now. [02:18] keescook, yeah unanticipated problem with the rsync :) [02:18] thanks for catching that so quick [02:18] you bet! thanks for fixing it so quick. :) [02:22] I'm just lost. I reinstall mythbuntu from the website using the 'add to ubuntu' link. I have no frontend or backend [02:22] kolby, right and then start mcc [02:22] and then you install fe and be from that [02:22] maky [02:22] as well as all plugins [02:22] remote [02:22] services [02:22] drivers [02:22] etc [02:24] whats the site that i go to request future mythbuntu features? [02:24] $spec [02:24] argh. [02:25] http://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+addspec [02:26] Hi superm1_ [02:26] haha, thanks [02:26] hi tritium [02:27] superm1_: hopefully you got my /query with a link to the write-up? [02:27] tritium, no i'm not at that computer [02:27] tritium, i can teach you howto publish the branch [02:28] that'd be the most ideal way [02:28] superm1_: oh, okay... [02:28] then it can be merged [02:28] and then your name stays associated with the changes [02:28] Sure. Do I need to join the launchpad team? [02:28] tritium, Nope [02:28] just need a ssh key in launchpad [02:28] cool [02:28] okay, I don't have one currently [02:30] you know.... in all logic that should have worked [02:30] it still gives me the same error. [02:30] how??? [02:30] you purged mysql-server-5.0 [02:30] right? [02:31] and mythtv-database [02:31] and mythtv-common [02:31] etc/ [02:31] yeah. Let me retry the mysql-server [02:31] yeah. brb [02:31] mind you mysql-server-5.0 [02:31] not mysql-server [02:31] both are on your system [02:31] the 5.0 one is the important one [02:31] 'm purging both [02:31] k [02:31] should I uninstall the rest again too [02:31] won't hurt [02:32] also [02:32] if you have a ~/.mythtv [02:32] get rid of it [02:32] okay [02:37] you meant the folder right? [02:37] ./mythtv [02:37] I didn't write a config file [02:38] ~/.mythtv means ~(home folder)/.mythtv [02:38] hidden by default [02:38] right okay [02:40] i dont know much, so i like to look smart and help when i can :) [02:44] okay thanks. lol [02:45] should I go with secondary or primary backend? [02:45] I'm using it as a Desktop + back + front [02:46] okay, I'm trying Primary first... [02:47] yeah primary [02:47] mkay ^^ [02:48] BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! Success [02:48] I'm now in the Setup tool [02:48] thanks guys. That was crazy. === MythbuntuGuest18 is now known as stevetv [03:00] kolby, you've finally reminded me of the spec i wanted to write earlier today. for hardy i think that i might want to have a rather invasive patch to mythtv source that does away with ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt all together [03:00] so that it can't wreak the havok it tends to [03:00] :) [03:02] well... I don't know if that's what the problem was but, PINKY AND THE BRAIN is on!!! lol [03:02] (woot) [03:04] so, how long do you think till mythtv releases its next release so we can use multiple hdds? [03:04] pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? [03:08] MitoTranin, you here? [03:08] MitoTranin, are you set to rsync from us? [03:12] taz.. multiple hdd? [03:13] yeah the new version is suppose to allow multiple folders for saving [03:15] hmmm. Can't you make a static link or something? [03:15] you can make an LVM, but until they rls support for multiple folders, tahts the only option [03:16] righty. lol. Any guides on doing that?' [03:16] LVM? [03:17] i personally used this guide to set up my LVM [03:17] http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm [03:18] that reminds me .. vaguely. mythbuntu seems badly partitioned to me [03:18] kolby: http://www.mythbuntu.org/installation_manual (Advanced Setup Options -> LVM in manual) [03:19] stevetv, the partitioning isn't any different than the standard ubuntu install currently [03:19] :) . superm1. then i dont like those either lol [03:19] thanks. ^^ [03:20] to me, a seperate partition for media seems valid. [03:20] its just my opinion tho.. i mean.. who am i.. nobody thats who [03:22] you can make a seperate partition to be your /var/lib/ folder, and that it really doesn't make a difference between that and /recordings/ [03:22] thats just my opinion [03:22] stevetv: It's something we discussed and couldn't agree on to suite everybody [03:22] stevetv, well and there is an issue that we can't overwrite the partitioning recipes that are in standard ubuntu easily [03:22] because we are part of the regular ubiquity installer, we have to be good citizens :) [03:23] haha [03:23] i'm going to talk to the other installer guys about it more at UDS [03:23] UDS? [03:23] no fair enough.. its a disto. [03:25] Ubuntu Developer Summit [03:25] sounds fun [03:25] lol.. but then i only googled it so its not like i know anything about it [03:25] Boston sounds like fun... [04:02] hello [04:04] man, dpms is driving me nuts. does anyone know how to completely disable it and screen blanking? [04:07] I think just setting dpms to off in xorg.conf works [04:13] when i import dvd. why does it rip chapters separate. Can I make it only display the main title? [04:21] you should be able to, it should be a setting [04:24] hey guys; I'm having a problem with mysql and the mythbuntu control center. [04:24] !ask | road2elysium [04:24] road2elysium: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [04:26] I upgraded a backend to the 7.10 RC, and I'm trying to add the frontend to the mysql db. It looks like the mysql service is running from ps, but I'm unable to get the frontend to connect on the install. [04:27] So I tried running the mythbuntu control center on the backend, it prompts for root authorization, but then doesn't load anything [04:31] Any ideas on how to get the control center to load? I did notice that superm1 said that "There was a bug in the RC installation that the mysql service may not have been activated in a few instances." [04:32] road2elysium, is this on amd64? [04:32] yes [04:32] the backend is at least [04:32] there was a bug in the mcc on amd64 [04:33] go to mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu [04:33] and at the bottom [04:33] there is a link to the fixed deb [04:35] Thanks, I'll give it a try now. [04:36] * tazgodx bows before superm1_ [04:37] haha. thanks [04:37] :) [04:38] * road2elysium agrees with tazgodx [04:39] i think my HDD is totally screwed...i can't even get livetv to play anymore :( [04:39] can't wait for my new drive to com [04:40] superm, MCC works now after the deb install. thanks again. [04:41] does any one know. how i rip a dvd as one file. [04:41] yeah [04:42] it should automatically do it [04:43] it keeps. importing the dvd as a bunch of chapters [04:43] have try changing quality to perfect [04:43] thats what i always used [04:44] do you select every title. like it says 1 of 16? [04:44] no [04:44] only one of those is the movie [04:45] oh? [04:45] only select the one without the title? [04:45] if you select view you can watch it to make sure its the movie your ripping [04:45] only select the one that is the full movie [04:45] ok got ya. what is the other stuff? [04:45] you could also mkisofs from terminal if you're just having problems with one particular dvd [04:46] usually like extras on the DVD [04:46] like a video of the director talking [04:46] or deleted scenes [04:46] or previews [04:47] oh i see now. thanks that make perfect sense [04:47] thanks have a good night [04:47] if you select view on all of them, it will show you waht it is, and you can choose if you want it or not [04:47] no prob [04:57] i just installed mythbuntu w/ a hauppaug 350 and i can't get the mythtb to use the composite nor s-video to the tv. [04:58] i have tested with rmmod saa7127 [05:00] can't get TV-OUT on the 350 to work? [05:01] yes [05:01] yes through mythtv [05:02] i believe there is an option in the mcc to set up TV-OUT throught the 350 s-video [05:02] did you set that? [05:02] if i deselect the 350 in the myth setup, i can 'watch tv' on the computer monitor. [05:03] what is mcc? [05:03] $mcc [05:03] Mythbuntu_Control_Center [05:04] i didn't see that option, but that's what i'm looking for. i'm firing up myth now so i can $mcc while i've got your help. (I've been working on this all day, so I'm grateful for the assistance.) [05:04] hmmm, i don't see that option anymore [05:05] when you installed intially did you set up the PVR-350 as the output? [05:06] i can't remember since i've been trying many different options. [05:06] hmm, i haven't tried to set up the 350 output before [05:06] Does anyone know if this would be a mythfilldatabase or a shedules direct issue.. The "callsign" and "name" tables on my db are all "Adding Channel 22" (obviously the channel num is different for each channel) instead of say "22" and "SNET" [05:07] that mcc, is that accessible through frontend and/or command line? [05:07] Gumby, that seems like you have the wrong credentials in your db setup [05:08] foxbuntu_, credentials for what? [05:08] DS [05:08] SD8 [05:08] ugh [05:08] MythbuntuGuest51: its the Mythbuntu-Control-Center, its accessible from the desktop menu [05:08] SD [05:09] foxbuntu_, the channel fequencies are all correct. Its just the callsign and name tables that arent getting populated correctly. mythfilldatabase works properly other than those two tables. [05:09] Gumby, remember that your username and password are case sensitive [05:09] the credentials are perfectly fine. otherwise, I'd have no guide data at all. [05:10] Gumby, you might try to clear and reset it with mythfill [05:12] how do i fire up mcc? [05:12] exit out of the mythtv frontend, and when you see the desktop click the menu in the top left. and then its one of them. but i don't see that option in there [05:13] MythbuntuGuest51, its in the setup menu or...you can pull up the terminal and "sudo mythbuntu-control-centre" [05:13] tazgodx, MCC is inside of the frontend as well [05:13] it is? [05:13] yes [05:13] oh yeah it is, i forgot [05:13] my bad [05:14] foxbuntu_: do you know how to setup the PVR-350 S-Video out? [05:14] i select it and nothing happens. [05:14] tazgodx, no idea...I do know that the 350 is kind of a pain however [05:15] yeah, they stop supporting the S-Video out, if i remember correctly. but i thought there was an option somewhere in mythbuntu [05:15] MythbuntuGuest51: do you not have a normal video card with S-Video out? [05:16] tazgodx - nope on the vid w/ s-video. [05:17] foxbuntu - command line throws 'KeyError: 'w64codecs'" error after building dependency tree [05:17] AM64 machine [05:17] ? [05:17] yes [05:18] there is a known bug with the mcc, there is a fix tho [05:18] i don't know the link tho...let me see if i can find it [05:18] go to mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu [05:19] and at the bottom [05:19] there is a link to the fixed deb [05:20] got it. installing... [05:22] it's up. i've used this (btw: i have the latest mythbuntu). where is the option to select which output on the 350? [05:23] fyi: capture card setup is pvr-x50, pvr-500. vid. device: /dev/video0. probed info: Hauppauge pvr-350. [05:24] that should be right [05:25] you might have to wait for a real dev to com help. this is about hte extent of my knowledge [05:25] sorry [05:26] i've tested through command like ivtv utils that the 350 will display test image, etc.(both s-video and composite), so it seems like a mythtv setting somewhere.... [05:27] tazgodx - no worries, thanks for the mcc fix, etc. [05:27] np [05:28] do you know what remote control option to select in mcc for the 350? [05:29] i selected the Hauppauge TV Card [05:29] it works, but i had a few problems with what a few buttons did, but i changed it and it works great now [05:29] little customization [05:30] that's what i chose, but the back/exit button doesn't move menus back. [05:30] thats one fo the problems i came accross :) [05:30] go to ~/.mythtv/lircrc.conf [05:31] or no [05:31] its ~/.mythtv/lircrc [05:32] what other cards work w/ a tv? [05:32] scroll to the Hauppauge_350 section and under back/exit button just make the key Esc and not D [05:33] you mean output to the TV? [05:33] yes [05:34] i have a NVidia 5200FX [05:34] no fan, and works great [05:35] i'll have to check it out if i can't get the 350 working.... thanks for the lircrc info. [05:35] i know some people say NVidia is better than ATI, but i like my 5200 [05:35] no prob [05:36] i posted my config somewhere [05:36] if you want to check it out, but ill have to find it [05:37] sure when you have the spare cycles [05:41] just replace the ones you want to use in the lircrc you have in place now [05:43] got it. thank you! [05:44] i put that back/escape change in and that's nice already. [05:44] no prob, just glad i could somewhat help [05:44] yeah, that was a big problem i had. they have it maped to 'D' which i have no idea what that really does [05:46] i have a vnc question: i want to vnc to the myth box w/ my mac os x and i've tried a coupld of vnc clients but the myth box garbled in the client. [05:48] what garbled? are you trying to VNC and watch some video? [05:50] MythbuntuGuest51, Ive had that issue here. Not sure what the problem is but I think its a resolution issue. Some res's did it and others didnt [05:50] just the myth menus, nothing special. i've used vnc a lot, but it is unreadable - barely i can see the mythtv menus. [05:50] that one is over my head. i haven't had a problem with vnc [05:52] i love my VNC, i can't see on my TV screen, so my VNC is a lifesaver [05:52] i a lucky one, eh? [05:53] you do seem pretty lucky to me [05:53] yeah, that's why i'm trying to get it to work since i'm laying on the floor w/ a 22" old school CRT that can't be there forever.... [05:53] of course, im pretty lucky too. i just got it all put together and running, and my HDD decided to die on me..so now i can't do much.... [05:55] bummer. sorry to hear that. [05:55]