kudari cant cd to it though00:00
kudarit says it doesn't exist00:00
stdinkudar: make sure you run that after tar and in the /usr/src directory00:00
WaltzingAlongrob: and you might just as well follow the beta3 instructions00:00
robWaltzingAlong, do you know of a link?00:00
WaltzingAlongrob:  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php00:00
robWaltzingAlong, thanks :)00:00
ScorpKingDragnslcr: do you know the name of the module? sudo modprobe <module> will load it. if it works add it to /etc/moduls so it's loaded at startup.00:00
stdinrob: the i386 packages are on kubuntu.org for Edgy, they are in universe for gutsy (with amd64 packages)00:01
kudarstdin: i did. and where does /usr/src come in to this?00:01
robstdin, yeah following the link above, so there are amd64 packages which is good :D00:01
stdinkudar: because that's the place the archive of the source goes00:01
* rob wonders if kde4 is socks-nocking-off better then kde3 yet00:02
stdinrob: almost :p00:02
robstdin, awesome.. I used to use Kde a long time ago and was hoping Kde4 might convince me to convert back :)00:03
kudarstdin: is this missing something00:03
kudarstdin: ln -s linux-source-2.6.22 /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source00:03
stdinrob: it will be great, but it's not great right now00:03
ScorpKingDragnslcr: lshw | less and look for multimedia. it will show you what device you have.00:04
stdinrob: not the packages anyway, from svn it's nice00:04
DragnslcrScorpKing- name of the module is what I'm trying to remember. It's an onboard nVidia sound chip00:04
kudaroh, not it isnt00:04
DragnslcrScorpKing- MCP55, to be specific00:05
kudarin the lib/modules/generic folder it says 'source' requires arguments00:06
kudarstdin: ^---00:06
kudarits like im trying to put a link somewhere that doesn't exist00:07
kudarso you put a link in the archive of the source?00:07
stdinkudar: try "sudo ln -fs linux-source-2.6.22 /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source"00:07
stdinor "sudo ln -fs /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source"00:08
kudarstdin: THAT WORKED@!#$00:09
kudarstdin: what was the difference?00:09
stdin-f forces it, overwrites a link that was already there00:10
kudarok now here is the question00:10
ScorpKingDragnslcr: does lsmod | grep mcp scow anything usefull? also run sudo updatedb and then locate mcp | grep .so and see if you can find the module.00:10
kudarstdin: now that i  built the module. how do i know where to install the module00:11
kudaror will 'make install' take care of that for me00:11
ScorpKingDragnslcr: good luck. i have to go.00:11
stdin"sudo make install" will00:11
ScorpKingnite guys! have fun. ;)00:11
smaxwhats a nice bit-torrent program ?00:11
vzduchsmax: define 'nice'00:12
kudarDon't forget to copy firmware to your hotplug's firmware directory00:13
kudarand have the hotplug tools in place.00:13
smaxvzduch: you know... nice00:13
stdinkudar: I'm guessing it means /lib/firmware/2.6.22-14-generic/00:14
kudarstdin: what do i put in there?00:14
stdinwhat it said, you're the one compiling whatever it is you're compiling00:15
stdinREADME and INSTALL files make a good read00:16
scheater6smax: well, I personally like the fact that Ktorrent is so well integrated into KDE.00:16
user_всем привет, кто может подсказать как в kopete отключить передачу уведомлений о наборе текста и отправку сообщдений по Ентеру00:17
kudarstdin: readme and install are not helping00:17
kudarcompatible/iwl4965.ko compatible/iwl3945.ko (s) installed into:00:17
kudar        /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless00:17
kudari didn't mean to do that00:17
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.00:17
stdin!ru | user_00:18
ubotuuser_: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke00:18
aj_hey, can someone help me with my sound missing and/or kopete crashing when i try to connect to msn?(this happened after i installed gutsy gibbon)00:18
WaltzingAlongkopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit00:18
kudarstdin: should i put iwl4965.ko into lib/firmware/s.6.22-14-generic?00:18
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stdinkudar: no, .ko is a module, it get's installed with "sudo make install"00:19
kudarstdin: it tells me to install the firmware in /lib/firmware00:20
kudarstdin: but i don tknow what it is it wants me to put in there00:20
kudarthe folder i untarred?00:20
stdinkudar: would there be any .ucode files in there somewhere?00:21
kudarya but im not to that step yet00:22
stdinwell, that's the firmware00:22
kudarit wants me to wget the ucode file00:22
stdinand that firmware/module is in gutsy already00:22
kudarim a noob man... maybe im misinterpreting it00:22
gribouillecan someone tell me how I can install firefox ?00:22
stdingribouille: open Adept Manager (KMenu -> System > Adept) and install the package called "firefox"00:23
dedican i modify the keymapping of a special keyboard (only numbad keyboard)?00:23
gribouillestdin: but it is greyed. I can't select it00:24
stdingribouille: then try opening konsole and do "sudo apt-get install firefox" (if there is an error then post it to the pastebin site linked in the topic)00:24
gribouillePackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.00:25
gribouilleThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or00:25
gribouilleis only available from another source00:25
Allooshhi guys, I just installed windows application using wine, where can I open it, where is program files located>00:25
MurielGodoi_Alloosh: ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files00:26
gribouillestdin: aby idea ?00:26
stdingribouille: ok, open adept again, then go to Adept > Manage Repositories  and mark all the boxes on the 1st tab, then it should be installable00:26
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kudarstdin: it tells me to use cp command00:27
kudarstdin: cp command not found00:27
stdinnot "cp command", the "cp" command00:27
gribouillestdin: I selected everything except source code00:28
stdingribouille: that's ok, it should ask to reload the package cache, say yes then it should be available00:29
DragnslcrAnyone else using a sound card/chip that uses the snd_hda_intel module in 7.10? It looks like the module is in a different location now, and modprobe can't load it00:29
gribouillestdin: is it possible to reload the package cache from the command line ?00:29
yonkeltronso, i have this issue with sleep...it goes down and comes up fine from sleep. the issue is that i've set my lid to be the switch for it to know to sleep and it only goess down for sleep the first time the lid is closed. after that, when i close the lid it stays on but turns off the screen. however, if i log out of X and log back in, it will restart the pattern of sleep-once and then don't00:30
stdingribouille: it is, but you can do it from adept manually to, by clicking Fetch Updates. the command line way is "sudo apt-get update"00:30
ovegood night from denmark to all of you here...00:31
gribouillestdin: ok, thanks. just a little problem : the version of firefox I got is, while the latest firefox vresion is
stdingribouille: that's the latest version in the repositories, a newer version may be releases sometime00:33
gribouillestdin: are available packages quite recent or not ?00:34
vzduchgribouille: at least you have, my Fedora 7 still runs on  o000:34
galathal1oneth0:avah <--- what is avah?00:34
gribouillevzduch: and opensuse has
stdingalathal1on: avahe00:34
galathal1onstdin: ?00:34
stdingribouille: some packages are newer than others, most are more stable than new00:34
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stdingalathalion: it helps if you don't change your nick when you want me to reply00:35
galathalionsry :>00:35
gribouillestdin: are ubuntu packages more recent than debian packages ?00:35
vzduchgribouille: openSUSE is brandnew00:36
BluesKajdon't think there's much of a diff between the latest FF versions , other than plugging vulnerabilities running in windows00:36
stdingalathalion: avahi (not avahe) is the new name for zeroconf, it lets you participate in a network with no DHCP and no static addresses00:36
vzduch(well, Gutsy is too, but at the time of feature-freeze Firefox was, I guess00:36
stdingribouille: ubuntu uses packages from debian unstable, then modifies some a bit00:36
gribouillestdin: so, they should be fairly recent00:37
fluffmanyeah running a FF that's two versions behind is kinda :P00:37
stdingribouille: yeah, there are certain rules about when a package can be updated. but generally you won't find a package more than a couple months out of date from the latest release00:37
galathalionstdin: how did it happen?00:38
galathalionstdin: never seen it before00:38
stdingalathalion: it happens when you get no offers from DHCP00:38
BluesKajfluffman, don't think you'd even notive the diff00:38
galathalionstdin: ok thnx00:39
BluesKajearly adopters think it's so cool , stability is more important IMO00:39
TheDudehow do you get restricted formats?00:39
BluesKajanyway ...konq is my browser of choice now00:40
fluffmanACK! Konqueror!  >:[00:40
BluesKaj!restricted formats | TheDude00:40
ubotuTheDude: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:40
fluffmanI can't get used to it00:41
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion00:41
BluesKaji didn't like it at first either , but it's so stable and safe00:41
fluffmanI guess I didn't play around in it much00:42
WaltzingAlongconsistency is fairness00:42
fluffmanbut without adblock + noscript, it's going to take a lot to beat Firefox00:42
BluesKajyeah, it takes a bit of tweaking and fooling around to get it right00:42
BluesKajkonq has adblock00:42
angasuleI did aptitude search vdrift and only vdrift-data shows up, it suggests vdrift but it's not in the repos!?00:42
fluffmanBluesKaj: does it have per-site javascript options?00:43
vzduch!info vdrift00:43
ubotuPackage vdrift does not exist in gutsy00:43
Not_SureIn Kate, is it possible to increase font size by holding Ctrl and moving mouse wheel up or down?00:43
BluesKajyes i beleive so, in the the browser ID options00:43
angasule!info vdrift-data00:43
ubotuPackage vdrift-data does not exist in gutsy00:43
angasulebtw, I'm in feisty :)00:44
fluffmanawesome, I'm going to check it out now00:44
angasuleNot_Sure: isn't it faster to try it out than to come here and ask? :?00:45
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Not_Sureangasule; I appreciate your help00:45
Not_SureIn Kate, is it possible to increase font size by holding Ctrl and moving mouse wheel up or down?00:46
Not_SurePerhaps it is possible to enable this feature by altering some general KDE parameters?00:46
WaltzingAlongNot_Sure: other than asking here (too quickly, might i add) what have you tried?00:47
fluffmanBluesKaj: ah, that's nice.  Now if it could sync up my bookmarks with Firefox (which I use at work on my thumbdrive in windows), I would use it at home00:47
fluffmanesp. since firefox has started eating a gig of ram overnight :-\00:48
BluesKajfluffman, check the javascript options on domain00:48
Not_SureI would highly commend those who would be so kind an answer my question. Thank You in advance.00:48
Allooshhi, how come clam updates are not working any more?00:48
fluffmanyeah I found that, BluesKaj00:49
Not_SureAgain, my problem is that I would like to use KDE's Kate (and/or other applications) to be able to use Ctrl button and mouse wheel. This is a common Windows feature so I would like to be able to implement this feature in KDE.00:50
Not_SureCtrl + mouse wheel should produce zoom in/out effect00:50
Not_SureI cordially thank everybody willing to help me00:51
AllooshNot_Sure: it does with KDE and GNOME00:51
BluesKajmousewheel will switch tabs in konversation00:51
DragnslcrIt looks like the module for my sound chip moved from /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko to /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko in the new kernel, and modprobe can't find it. Any suggestions?00:51
WaltzingAlongNot_Sure: i have not seen this happen in ms notepad00:52
crimsunDragnslcr: do you have linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic installed?00:52
gribouillehow can I install apache ?00:52
martoyaDragnslcr: try load with: insmod -f  /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel/snd-hda-intel.ko00:52
WaltzingAlonggribouille: aptitude install apache ?00:52
Not_SureWaltzingAlong: notepad2 in Windows is capable of that functionality00:52
fluffmanNot_Sure: you can change the fonts size in kate by going to settings > configure > fonts & colors00:52
gribouillePackage apache is not available, but is referred to by another package.00:53
gribouilleThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or00:53
gribouilleis only available from another source00:53
WaltzingAlongNot_Sure: if you want ms windows ...00:53
Not_Surefluffman: I am aware of the font size feature in Kate, however, I am looking for a keyboard shortcut such as ctrl+mouse wheel00:53
gribouillewhere can I get apache from ?00:53
Not_SureWaltzingAlong: notepad2 in Windows implements that shortcut00:53
WaltzingAlonggribouille: aptitude install apache ?  ah best search for it aptitude search apache00:54
fluffmanwhy would you need that in a text editor?  everything is using the same font...just set it and forget it :-\00:54
WaltzingAlonggribouille: how about package apache200:54
fluffmansorry, I don't know of anything else00:54
Not_SurePerhaps I ought to rephrase my question: what is the best text editor for programming that is available under KDE?00:55
WaltzingAlongvi / emacs here they come00:55
WaltzingAlongNot_Sure: kate/settings/configure shortcuts/ then you can define a key or combination thereof for in/decreasing the font size00:56
angasuleWaltzingAlong: he wants an editor, not an OS00:56
Lars_GWhat's the name of gutsy's kde theme and icon theme etc? I think it wasn't applied correctly00:56
fluffmanif you want a notepad replacement (and then some), go with kate00:56
fluffmanotherwise vi is great00:56
Not_Surefluffman: what does vi stand for and what is the 'apt-get' command to install it?00:57
gribouilleWaltzingAlong: aptitude search apache yields p   apache200:57
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code00:57
WaltzingAlong!info apache2 | gribouille00:57
ubotugribouille: apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3build1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 92 kB00:57
angasuleactually, vim is great, vi is a bit too old00:57
fluffmanNot_Sure: sudo apt-get install vim00:57
WaltzingAlonggribouille: so install apache200:57
Dragnslcrcrimsun- I don't have that installed, no00:57
fluffmanI personally use nano from the command line because it's easy :D00:58
gribouilleis there an equivalent of the service command in ubuntu ?00:58
sven_Hi there! I used kubuntu 7.04 with my dell d620 laptop with ndiswrapper to control my broadcomm network card.. No problems at all. Now I just installed a fresh 7.10 install, and Im trying the same trick, but my wifi network card is not working :(00:59
sven_ndiswrapper tells me the driver is loaded ok00:59
sven_/var/log/messages shows me that ndiswrapper loaded ok00:59
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sven_but I dont see the wifi light :(01:00
fluffmanNot_Sure: also, there are little magnifying glasses at the top of kate on the toolbar with a + and - sign...these will enlarge or shrink your font sizes01:00
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx01:00
fluffmansven_: use the restricted drivers manager01:00
Not_SureWaltzingAlong: I have attempted to assign my shortcut using 'Configure shortcuts' menu in Kate. However, my mouse wheel button is not recognized. What would you recommend?01:00
fluffmanthat worked for me with bcm43xx01:00
WaltzingAlongNot_Sure: i would recommend using a text editor for editing text01:01
fluffmanlol @ WaltzingAlong01:01
WaltzingAlongNot_Sure: following that, grab the source to kate, hack away01:01
WaltzingAlongat or with :D01:01
sven_fluffman, Tried that, didnt work.. Whenever I try to install the driver that kubuntu tells me with the restricted manager, a new window pops up and that window is frozen.. cant select anything..01:01
sven_It does specify a file  though01:01
Not_SureWaltzingAlong: where would I be able to download Kate's source code?01:01
sven_I downloaded the file manually, but where do I install it???01:02
fluffmansven_: I have no idea beyond that01:02
fluffmanactually, it worked for me in Ubuntu, and I haven't tried it in Kubuntu01:02
WaltzingAlongNot_Sure: from apt? apt-get source kate i think01:02
sven_fluffman, it worked perfectly for me in 7.0401:03
WaltzingAlongsven_: fresh install or upgrade from 7.04?01:03
sven_WaltzingAlong, there is no explanation for 7.10, only for 7.04 and below01:03
fluffmanI've got to go01:03
fluffmangood luck sven_01:03
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aj_ok, got kopete fixed, can someone give me a pointer or two on what to do with my sound(disappeared after gutsy install)01:04
stdin!away > fluff|away01:04
Dragnslcraj_- what sound card/chip?01:04
sven_WaltzingAlong, fresh install01:04
sven_fluff|away, thanks!01:05
stdinNot_Sure: kate is in kdebase, so to get kate's source it'll download kdebase (big package)01:05
aj_i'm pretty sre its integrated with my motherboard(amd turion 64 x2 TL 50)01:05
Not_Surestdin: I have just downloaded kdebase. However, I am uncertain of its location on my harddrive. Could you help me?01:05
aj_kmixer worked with it fine on fiesty fawn, but now cant seem to find it01:05
CPrompt^anyone get Kopete to work with GoogleTalk?01:06
WaltzingAlongCPrompt^: yes01:06
Dragnslcraj_- sudo lshw | more01:06
stdinNot_Sure: it'll be in the same directory you ran apt-get from01:06
Dragnslcraj_- look for "multimedia"01:06
CPrompt^WaltzingAlong : care to share?01:06
stdinCPrompt^: it does: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support01:06
muchanicNot_Sure - if you used apt-get source at the console it'll be in the current directory01:07
Not_Suremuchanic and stdin: I thank you01:07
CPrompt^stdin : that's what I did and it says "Host not found"???01:08
stdinCPrompt^: I used those settings to configure my kopete Server: talk.google.com  Port: 522301:09
aj_Dragnslcr: nVidia MCP51 hi-def audi01:09
CPrompt^stdin : yep.  That's what I have.  "Host not found" though01:10
aj_i guess its on my video card01:10
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stdinCPrompt^: same settings works here01:10
CPrompt^stdin : bummer.  not sure why mine isn't working01:10
SporkUmm... How do Install flash playerin firefox?01:10
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:11
Dragnslcraj_- it's onboard audio. I have an MCP5501:11
aj_but why is kmixer not finding it?01:11
Dragnslcraj_- I think this is the problem- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.22/+bug/13157701:11
Dragnslcraj_- it seems like the module got moved to a different directory in 7.10, and now modprobe can't find it01:12
crimsunDragnslcr: but did you install the package I asked about?01:12
Dragnslcrcrimsun- yup, didn't include that module01:12
crimsunsure it does01:13
Dragnslcraj_- here's a forum topic that may be about the same problem- http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087802.001:13
aj_k, thanks01:13
CPrompt^stdin : nevermind.  imma idiot.  i was using talk.gmail.com DOH!  it's working :)01:13
crimsuncrimsun@Box.pts/1.~.[0].% dlocate snd-hda-intel01:13
crimsunlinux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko01:13
crimsunDragnslcr: that's the proper location for the updated (1.0.15rc3) version01:13
WaltzingAlongCPrompt^: first reaction: it is broken. second reaction: i broke it01:16
crimsunDragnslcr: after installing the package that I mentioned, what happens when you `sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel`?01:16
SporkIt wot workiee01:17
Dragnslcrcrimsun- same problem01:17
Dragnslcrsudo modprobe snd-hda-intel    FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found.01:17
crimsunDragnslcr: please execute `sudo depmod -e`01:17
Dragnslcrcrimsun- still the same error01:18
Dragnslcr(after trying modprobe again)01:18
crimsunDragnslcr: `modinfo snd-hda-intel`   -> pastebin01:18
Dragnslcrmodinfo snd-hda-intel   modinfo: could not find module snd-hda-intel01:18
crimsunDragnslcr: dpkg -l linux-\*-modules-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii01:19
Dragnslcrii  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386  Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on 38601:20
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crimsunDragnslcr: err, -386?  No wonder.01:20
Barbarosjoin perl01:20
Barbaroshi guys01:20
crimsunDragnslcr: sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)01:20
Dragnslcrcrimsun- done01:21
crimsunDragnslcr: now, modinfo snd-hda-intel|grep ^file01:21
Dragnslcrmodinfo: could not find module snd-hda-intel01:22
crimsunDragnslcr: dpkg -L linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)|grep hda01:22
crimsunDragnslcr: dpkg -l linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii01:23
Sporkflashplayer-installer can not be found T_T01:23
crimsunSpork: use flashplugin-nonfree if you're on i38601:24
Dragnslcrii  linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-386 2.6.22-14.10   Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.22 on i38601:24
crimsunDragnslcr: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/sound/pci/hda01:24
crimsunSpork: non-amd64, non-ppc, non-sparc, non-xbox, non-ia64, etc.01:24
coreymon77Spork: does your computer have a intel processor01:25
Dragnslcr-rw-r--r--  1 root root 381752 2007-10-15 14:46 snd-hda-intel.ko01:25
Sporkuhh...yeah why?01:25
coreymon77Spork: then its 138601:25
crimsunDragnslcr: looks fine.  Run `sudo depmod -e`01:25
coreymon77Spork: aka x8601:25
Dragnslcrcrimsun- done. Still can't find the module01:26
Sporkok! ...?01:26
crimsunDragnslcr: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/updates/sound/pci/hda01:26
Dragnslcrcrimsun- /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/updates/ doesn't exist01:28
crimsunDragnslcr: err, did you install linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-386?01:29
richardhello all, I'm in the middle of trying to get/install apache2.  I tried using the command: "sudo apt-get install apache2" in the terminal window and i received the following error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:30
DragnslcrDoesn't look like it really has any files in it01:30
crimsunDragnslcr: apt-get --reinstall install linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-38601:30
richardand another error: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:31
Dragnslcrrichard- do you have Adept open?01:31
richardya i do :-/01:31
richardi just noticed this now :-)01:31
kudaranyone know why i would only be pulling down 229 kb/s on wireless?01:32
kudari have up to date drivers01:32
Dragnslcrcrimsun- done. Still the same01:32
WaltzingAlongkudar: using a 104 wep key?01:32
Dragnslcrcrimsun- Adept says that there are only a couple doc files in that package01:32
kudarwaltz: not using any security at the moment01:32
kudarwindows flies01:32
kudarkubuntu creeps01:32
Dragnslcrcrimsun- and /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko does exist01:33
kudari have tried new drivers01:33
coreymon77kudar: are you nuts?01:33
crimsunDragnslcr: what is `uname -r`?01:33
Dragnslcrcrimsun- -38601:33
kudarcorey: i am testing01:33
coreymon77kudar: it doesnt matter what os you use, your network still should be encrypted01:33
crimsunDragnslcr: then /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/updates/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko isn't relevant.  Note that 2.6.22-14-generic != 2.6.22-14-38601:33
Dragnslcrcrimsun- think just copying the file would work?01:33
crimsunDragnslcr: no01:33
kudarcorey: its easier to test without encryption when you are changing wifi utilites01:34
sayersHiya! Any reason why Kopete seems to be crashing?01:34
coreymon77sayers: its a known bug01:34
crimsunDragnslcr: have you rebooted?01:34
coreymon77sayers: being worked on as we speak01:34
sayerscoreymon77: Well that's good :s01:34
Dragnslcrcrimsun- did you happen to look at the Launchpad link I mentioned a while ago? It seems like a lot of people are having problems01:34
sayersBeats being a bug that's only me coreymon77 :)01:34
Dragnslcrcrimsun- not since you started helping me, no. I rebooted an hour or two earlier though01:34
crimsunDragnslcr: we can't diagnose that issue until we get that module loaded.01:34
crimsunDragnslcr: please reboot01:35
Dragnslcrcrimsun- mkay, back in a couple minutes01:35
WaltzingAlongkopete crashing on gutsy with msn? already addressed; check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit01:36
sayersWaltzingAlong: think it will be in the respos soon?01:36
WaltzingAlongsayers: it may already be in gutsy-proposed01:37
coreymon77WaltzingAlong: already being address01:37
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MilesGDr_willis: hey did you compile conky from source?01:38
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WaltzingAlongcoreymon77: what more work is there for it?01:39
MilesGhas anyone compiled conky from source in here?01:39
Dragnslcrcrimsun- done (obviously)01:39
coreymon77WaltzingAlong: is it fixed?01:39
crimsunDragnslcr: lsmod|grep ^snd_01:40
crimsunDragnslcr: please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:40
Dragnslcrcrimsun- nothing01:41
crimsunplease download the troubleshooting script from http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh, and attach output (a URL) from the script01:42
crimsun^ Dragnslcr01:42
Dragnslcrcrimsun- http://pastebin.ca/74618101:44
sthasthastjhi got a problem01:45
sthasthastjhHow can i uninstal GNOME?01:46
rcg1984i'm in the middle of trying to test out if i installed php correctly.  The help document specified: "ou can save the content in a file phpinfo.php and place it under DocumentRoot directory of Apache2 Web server."  Do i save the file to: /etc/apache2?01:46
Daisuke_Idounless you're pressed for diskspace, there's little reason to, honestly...01:46
Dragnslcrrcg1984- no, that's the configuration directory01:46
Daisuke_Ido!purekde | sthasthastjh, I'm not sure how much I trust this, but:01:46
ubotusthasthastjh, I'm not sure how much I trust this, but:: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »01:46
rcg1984Dragnslcr: oh01:46
crimsunDragnslcr: interesting.  sudo apt-get --reinstall alsa-base linux-sound-base01:47
crimsunDragnslcr: interesting.  sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa-base linux-sound-base01:47
Dragnslcrrcg1984- you can get the DocumentRoot from Apache's config. It's usually somewhere under /var/www01:47
sthasthastjhok, ty01:47
rcg1984Dragnslcr: ok01:47
Dragnslcrcrimsun- done01:48
rcg1984Dragnslcr: I'm one step further to testing this out.  I'm in the www directory but it's apparent that I can save.01:49
rcg1984i can't*01:49
lavacano201014rcg1984: sudo chmod 777 /your/www/dir01:49
Dragnslcrrcg1984- you may need to use sudo. You usually want web files owned by a special user (sometimes www or www-data)01:50
lavacano201014"sudo su www"?01:50
Dragnslcrlavacano201014- that would be a bit of a security problem, but go for it01:50
lavacano201014Dragnslcr: heh01:50
MilesGrcg1984: my apache install has www-data as the usre01:51
MilesGhas anyone compiled conky from source in here?01:51
rcg1984Dragnslcr: I'm using Bluefish to create php files and save them, is there anyway to add another user to the owners list?01:52
Dragnslcrcrimsun- want me to run the alsa-info script again?01:52
lavacano201014rcg1984: add the user to the www-data group01:52
rcg1984lavacano201014: ok will do01:52
lavacano201014then "sudo chmod 77? /your/www/dir"01:52
Dragnslcrrcg1984- never used Bluefish, so I dunno. Might be easiest to save the files to your home directory and then move/chown them afterwards01:52
lavacano201014replace the ? with whatever chmod digit you want01:53
crimsunDragnslcr: no, just modprobe snd-hda-intel01:53
Dragnslcrcrimsun- nope, still can't find it01:53
crimsunDragnslcr: can't find that file still?01:54
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bobbydHow can I change my bootsplash from kubuntu back to ubuntu?01:55
bobbydoops, wrong channel :)01:55
Dragnslcrcrimsun- FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found.01:55
Dragnslcrcrimsun- I'm checking locate again01:56
pillowpantswhats a good file encryption program?01:56
pillowpantsim just looking to encrypt a few folders01:56
crimsunDragnslcr: no, use find01:56
crimsunDragnslcr: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd-hda-intel.ko'01:56
Dragnslcrcrimsun- nothing01:57
crimsunDragnslcr: is / mounted read-only?01:58
Dragnslcrcrimsun- I wouldn't think so01:58
crimsunDragnslcr: and you're still running -386?02:00
asasasasI am using Gutsy Gibbon. How can i make a SEARCH without using "Strigi"?02:01
Dragnslcrcrimsun- looks like grub's menu.lst has entries for both -386 and -generic. Maybe the upgrade picked the wrong kernel to be the default in grub?02:02
Dragnslcrcrimsun- I honestly didn't notice it in the boot menu. I always just let it pick the first one on its own02:02
blackbsdhi i just installed kubuntu gusty and the desktop effects are not working like they do in ubuntu, any ideas on how to get this working?02:03
supert0nesuse fusion02:04
MurielGodoi_!compiz | blackbsd02:04
ubotublackbsd: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:04
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blackbsdfrom the apt tool02:04
jpwhitinganyone know how I can detect which kernel module I'm missing to use all the features of my motherboard?02:04
lavacano201014is excess flood the new netsplit message?02:05
supert0nesgotta be02:05
jpwhiting' /proc/cpuinfo only shows one processor, but I have Hyperthreading turned on and it showed 2 with feisty02:05
Dragnslcrcrimsun- did you catch my last message?02:05
jpwhitingand nvidia kernel module also can't find my nvidia pcie video card with gutsy, but it worked with feisty...02:06
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lavacano201014jpwhiting: your nVidia card said something bad about the kernel module's mother.02:06
jpwhitinglavacano201014: probably02:07
jpwhitingjust wish it would appologize and get over it :)02:07
lavacano201014damn backslash02:07
jpwhitingthere used to be separate 386 and smp kernel packages iirc02:07
jpwhitingsmp being for multiprocessor machines02:08
jpwhitingbut maybe the 386 kernel has that?02:08
jpwhitingor maybe I should just use the -generic kernel?02:08
rcg1984lavacano201014: I trie doing what you mentioned but i still have no access to write to the www directory02:09
angasule!es | carlos02:09
ubotucarlos: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.02:09
lavacano201014did you use the chmod?02:09
rcg1984i changed the group of www to www-data and added this current account to the www-data group and set the chmod02:09
Gun_Smokewe have an offtopic channel for K don't we?02:10
rcg1984lavacano201014: i did "sudo chmod 775 /var/www" with out the quotes of course02:10
hellhoundhow do you instal compiz fusion in 7.10 kubuntu?02:10
kudarguys wlan0 isn't even showing up in ifconfig02:11
kudarhow do i get it back02:11
kudarsays there is no such device02:11
rcg1984lavacano201014: have any clue as to what I should do now?02:12
Gun_Smokewell anyhow.. For some reason I logged out earlier today and couldn't log back in.. It would try, trip and go back to the login window02:12
lavacano201014hellhound: the packages are compiz, compizconfig-settings-manager, compiz-kde and emerald02:12
lavacano201014rcg1984: youre stuck with "sudo"02:12
alethescan somebody tell me why the kemnu has items like "_: Entries in KMenu: Blah Blah Blah" ?02:13
Dragnslcrcrimsun- I think I found the package I need for the module- linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-38602:13
yagodoes anyone can help me with kubuntu 7.1002:13
alethesI see strings that are similar in app menus, like in ktorrent for example02:13
hellhoundlavacano201014: thank yo02:13
rcg1984lavacano201014: ?02:13
Gun_Smokeyago:  what did you break?02:13
hellhoundlavacano201014: does it require a restart?02:13
lavacano201014hellhound: i dont think so02:14
yagomy problem is that i'd downloaded the iso, but02:16
alethescan somebody tell me why the kmenu has items like "_: Entries in KMenu: Blah Blah Blah" ?02:16
yagoi dont know if i had burn a CD o can a i use apt-adapter for it02:16
kudarhow to you force a remove directory?02:17
alethesrm -rf02:17
kudarwhat does the r stand for02:17
alethesit'll remove all the contents02:17
alethesis the menu screwed on the ISO for everybody?02:18
aletheswonder why mine went fubar02:18
Gun_Smoke yago is english your native language?02:19
sam64Im having troubles after logging in in the default mode02:19
yagono, I'm from Spain sorry...02:20
sam64nothing turns on - I cant even use a console02:20
Gun_Smokeyago: No problem.02:20
Gun_Smokeyago: What do you want to do?  Burn a new Kubuntu CD from ISO?02:21
yagoGun_Smoke, how can i install kubuntu 7.10, only using my download?02:21
yagoinstalling new kubuntu 7.10 using only the file iso,02:21
Gun_Smokeyago: do you currently have kubuntu?02:21
sven_Is it my imagination or is 7.10 having a whole lot more problems than 7.04?? I had almost no trouble with 7.04, but 7.10 is  giving me hell.. I got a long list of problems I just solved, and now I got really bad networking problems (looks like I can forget wifi, the restricted manager simply hangs, ndis is a nogo).. what happened?02:22
yagoyes i do02:22
Dragnslcrcrimsun- thanks for all your help. Finally got it working with that package02:22
Gun_Smokeyago: 7.04?02:22
yagoyes i do02:22
yagoI have now 7.0402:22
sven_ Is it my imagination or is 7.10 having a whole lot more problems than 7.04?? I had almost no trouble with 7.04, but 7.10 is  giving me hell.. I got a long list of problems I just solved, and now I got really bad networking problems (looks like I can forget wifi, the restricted manager simply hangs, ndis is a nogo).. what happened?02:22
alethessven_: yeah, so far I'm less than enthused about 7.10 :/02:23
yagoand I'd download the iso for 7.1002:23
Gun_Smokeyago: Then what you want to do is called a Distro Upgrade.02:23
Jucatosven_: can you not repeat the question/complaint every minute?02:23
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:23
sven_When I use knetworkmanager to start my wifi its throwing down my eth0 cable network!! Its even removing the configuration of it..02:23
yagoyes exactly!02:23
sven_Jucato, I dont even know what gets posted or not, thats the problem!  My network interface is going on and off every minute here02:24
Gun_Smokeyago: Enjoy..02:24
sven_right now, I got eth0 up, but knetwork manager does not see any network interfaces anymore...02:24
kudarim so sick of my wireless being slow02:24
kudari used intel developmental drivers and it didn't work at all02:24
kudaruse the stable new ones and its slow as crap02:24
kudari just dont understand02:24
yagoGun_Smoke thank you!02:24
yagoYou are my IDOL!02:24
Gun_Smokeyago: Your welcome.02:25
aletheswonder if that distro upgrade thing ever works heh02:25
alethesI try it, it breaks packages, and I just end up reinstalling from an iso02:25
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:26
yagoGun_Smoke, I have downloaded the iso for kubuntu, and my question is02:29
yagoI have it burn on a CD o can I use the file without use a CD, using apt-adapter?02:30
sam64what is the shortcut to temperaraly leave the GUI?02:31
Gun_Smokeyago: I think what you are asking is if you can update uding apt-get from CD not over the network.  Is that correct?02:31
alethessam64: ctrl-alt-F1 - ctrl-alt-F602:31
aletheshmmm suppose I shoulda told him how to get back02:32
yagono, if I can update using the file, is that i dont have a cd for burning until tomorrow, that i can buy one02:32
Gun_Smokeyago: Yes you must burn it to CD to use the file you downloaded.02:33
vbgunzwhat is the default elevator argument in kubuntu grub? I've had cfq for a very long time. is it cfq? is it better?02:33
yagook, now I undrestand!02:33
yagothank you Gun_Smoke02:34
Gun_Smokeyago: But if you are using 7.04 you do not need a CD for anything.02:34
Gun_Smokeyago: You can just use the update manager.02:34
yagobut if i use update manager i need download the same, or no?02:35
Gun_SmokeYou will download and install all upgrades the same way you download and install updates.  For example when you do sudo apt-get update02:36
yagocan i expecific a file? for this?02:37
Gun_Smokeyago: have you tried asking your question at #ubuntu-es ?02:37
Gun_SmokeNo one around..02:37
yagoand I dont find nothing02:37
Gun_Smokeyago:  Ok... hold on..02:38
yagoanyone sorry ;-(, but Gun_Smoke don't worry, tomorrow i'll buy a CD02:38
Gun_SmokeNo need to spend money.  This is easy.. You just need some code.02:38
yagocan i use apt-get /home/yago/Desktop/kubuntu.iso02:39
yagoor anything like this, I meant expecificand where is file iso?02:40
Gun_Smokeyago: No.  have have good network connection?02:40
alethesif nothing else, couldn't he mount the ISO and extract the packages for apt?02:41
yagoyes 300k/s02:41
yagobut the problem is that that servers are too busy!02:41
fizzmahonhey guys just installed compiz but i cant find fusion-icon to switch window managers, where can i find it =) ?02:42
mohdfizzmahon: compiz --replace02:43
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mohdGuys, I have used configure-desktop for 4 virtual desktops, but I am only getting 2. Does anyone know why?02:44
Gun_Smokeyago:  So how about getting the kubuntu 7.10 alternated CD and then install from there.  Get the torrent.. it fast02:44
fizzmahonmohd: im getting these wierd boxes around all my menu's, any idea what it is?02:45
mohdfizzmahon: Hmm. I haven't ever seen weird boxes appear around my menus. Can you get me a screenshot?02:46
lostnoobcan anyone tell me how to get my wireless card re-enabled? It was working fine until I connected to a wired lan. Ever since my wireless can't be detected.02:46
fizzmahonmohd: sure! just a moment02:46
yagoGun_Smoke, thank you for your help, but my battery is out in a few min02:46
yagothank you my friend!02:46
Gun_SmokeOk... too bad..02:47
Gun_Smokeyou need the 7.10 alternate CD to upgrade from CD.. and still need to burn it.02:47
Gun_SmokeSorry I couldn't help more.02:47
yagothank you, Gun_Smoke, it is enogh!02:48
andre_some brazilian here??02:48
yagogood luck Gun_Smoke!02:48
Gun_SmokeI'll be around tomorrow if you need help same time.02:48
yagoandre yesterday in Brasil F1 was great!02:48
yagoI'll see you tomorrow Gun_Smoke!02:48
andre_you see the F102:49
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow come after leaving my computer running it freezes and stays at using 100 % of the CPU and i have to restart X02:49
yagohasta luego Gun_Smoke!02:49
andre_one question!!!!!02:49
fizzmahonmohd: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/723/boxesrg0.png02:49
yagoyes  andre, I'll see you tomorrow02:50
fizzmahonmohd: and when maximized windows are cut off by the taskbar02:50
andre_what i do , to mylinux accept all icons themes???02:50
andre_i use kubuntu 7.402:50
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow come after leaving my computer running it freezes and stays at using 100 % of the CPU and i have to restart X02:50
mohdFizzmahon: How exactly did you install compiz?02:51
dsmith_AT0M1CB0MB3R: screensaver one?02:51
lostnoobcan anyone tell me how to get my wireless card re-enabled?02:51
fizzmahonmohd: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compizconfig-settings-manager sexy-python02:52
AT0M1CB0MB3RAT0M1CB0MB3R: huh?02:52
dsmith_AT0M1CB0MB3R: screensaver on?02:52
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdsmith_: yeah02:52
dsmith_what type of pc?02:53
AT0M1CB0MB3Rlike amd?02:53
dsmith_desktop or laptop?02:53
dsmith_whats the size of your vid card?02:53
AT0M1CB0MB3Rlike in megs?02:53
AT0M1CB0MB3Rits agp02:53
dsmith_hmmm mine does that at times02:54
dsmith_I have to restart02:54
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdo you know why02:55
pestilencehow come kubuntu no longer opens up a window when i put a cd in?02:55
pestilencesame if i attach an external hd02:55
fizzmahongetting boxes around menus with compiz http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/723/boxesrg0.png any ideas?02:55
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdsmith_: do you know what powernowd is03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:03
lavacano201014so i must ask the humans03:04
lavacano201014what the hell is vino?03:04
BluesKajerr wine , maybe03:08
fulat2khi folks, i just upgraded to gutsy from feisty on a dell latitude d410.  somehow the built in wifi pro/wirless 2200bg isn't working.  but i can see that the ipw2200 module is loaded via dmesg.  any ideas?03:10
dystopianrayi have ipw2200 and it works without issues, i'm not sure why yours wouldn't be03:11
jpwhitingfulat2k: when I upgraded to gutsy my wireless was ra0 with feisty, but now it's wlan0_rename for some reason03:11
dystopianrayjpwhiting: you can probably adjust a udev rule to fix that naming03:12
Jucatowhoa! jpwhiting's in here!? O.o03:14
* Jucato runs for cover03:14
fulat2kjpwhiting: hmm.... in feisty it was eth1.  how can i make sure?03:16
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow do i disable DPMS03:18
ardchoilleAT0M1CB0MB3R: Sorry about earlier, I had an emergency here.03:18
AT0M1CB0MB3Rardchoille: i figured it out03:19
AT0M1CB0MB3Rardchoille: dont worry about it03:19
AT0M1CB0MB3Rardchoille: how do i disable DPMS? if you know....03:19
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: do you know how to disable DPMS?03:20
jpwhitingJucato: why? I'm not going to try to motivate you to get back to kde dev ;-)03:20
jpwhitingfulat2k: eth1 was your wireless?03:20
Jucatohaha :)03:20
jpwhitingdystopianray: I hope so03:20
jpwhitingit's annoying to have ra0 and wlan0_rename both03:21
ardchoilleAT0M1CB0MB3R: lol, I don't even know what DPMS is03:21
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnever mind03:21
jpwhitingJucato: yes, I do read planet every once in awhile03:22
Jucatohahah! :P03:22
jpwhitingJucato: are you a kubuntu dev also?03:24
jpwhitingor just help other poor souls with issues?03:24
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmy problem is that after leaving computer on for an hour or maybe 10 minutes my computer freezes and uses 100% CPU but if i take off all superkaramba themes except one (the CPU monitor) it will stay idle for hours to no end i jsut dont get it i really like the superkaramba themes too ive seen people having the same probem as me on google nobody had a fix what so ever03:24
Jucatojpwhiting: half-half... I've written very small patches (the biggest one would probably for d3lphin)....03:24
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dsmith_karamba is buggy03:26
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdsmith_: that was my problem03:26
fulat2kjpwhiting: well, i think it still is.  but i can't get it to scan for any APs03:26
AT0M1CB0MB3Ris there another program that has widgets like that dsmith_03:27
fulat2kjpwhiting: in interfaces, there's eth0, eth1 and the usual lo03:27
jpwhitingfulat2k: ah, dunno03:28
fulat2kjpwhiting: i remember there's place where i can see where the interfaces are aliased as...03:28
jpwhitingfulat2k: in feisty knetworkmanager showed ra0 but it now doesn't show any interfaces at all03:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rfulat2k: whats the problem03:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmy problem is that after leaving computer on for an hour or maybe 10 minutes my computer freezes and uses 100% CPU but if i take off all superkaramba themes except one (the CPU monitor) it will stay idle for hours to no end i jsut dont get it i really like the superkaramba themes too ive seen people having the same probem as me on google nobody had a fix what so ever03:29
fulat2kAT0M1CB0MB3R: wifi used to work in feisty doesn't work in gutsy.  i can see the ipw2200 module is loaded in dmesg.  but in knetworkmanager, it doesn't see any wireless connections.03:31
jpwhitingfulat2k: do you have wireless set up to use an AP at home in /etc/network/interfaces?03:31
mneptokAT0M1CB0MB3R: so then don't use those SK! widgets03:32
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmneptok: nobody else makes widgets03:32
mneptokAT0M1CB0MB3R: so?03:32
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmneptok: they look nice any help my theme come together03:33
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmneptok: how do i uninstall superkaramba03:33
AT0M1CB0MB3Rnvm mneptok03:33
mneptokAT0M1CB0MB3R: sudo apt-get autoremove superkaramba03:33
fulat2kjpwhiting: nopes.  everything is auto03:34
mneptokAT0M1CB0MB3R: when an open source app does not work the way you want, you have 3 options. - 1. fix it yourself. - 2. file a coherent and salient bug report and track its progress. - 3. don't use that app.03:35
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmneptok: whats up with the autoremove03:35
mneptokAT0M1CB0MB3R: it will also remove any packages upon which only SK! depends03:35
AT0M1CB0MB3R4.find a fix :]03:35
mneptokAT0M1CB0MB3R: uhh.03:36
mneptokAT0M1CB0MB3R: if a fix was findable, don't you think someone would have found it?03:36
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmneptok: how d i make konq my defaultfile browser not cappy dolphin03:36
AT0M1CB0MB3Rmneptok: i know what your saying03:36
Jucato!dolphin | AT0M1CB0MB3R03:36
ubotuAT0M1CB0MB3R: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.03:36
needlesdoes anyone know a good file encryption program with a front end?03:38
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: thanks big time03:38
Jucato!info kgpg03:38
ubotukgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 454 kB, installed size 1408 kB03:38
miles_I need some help with this one-liner,  im trying to see all my running processes and kill a certain one03:38
miles_kill | ps ax | grep conky        I want to kill conky03:38
miles_but that isnt right, could someone point me in the right direction please03:39
mneptokneedles: GPG03:39
* Jucato points to kgpg above03:39
dsmith_dolphin is nice03:39
Jucatomiles_: why not just "killall conky" ?03:39
mneptokmiles_: how's your regex-fu?03:39
miles_mneptok: weak03:39
miles_Jucato: ah03:39
mneptokmiles_: then you're not gonna do it on one line :)03:40
mneptokmiles_: Jucato has the right idea03:40
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miles_yea, kill and killall are a couple things I really should know more on03:43
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miles_im writing a lil bash script to start and stop conky similiar to one youd find in /etc/init.d03:43
tonyDoes anyone know how to get CBT Nuggets to run on Kubuntu?03:44
fulat2kgot it working.. :P03:46
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* miles_ smiles at his script03:49
* miles_ in a non-creep way03:49
needlesim not seeing much in the way of file encryption with kgpg03:50
gesslari'm trying to upgrade to 7.10 using the screenshots from kubuntu.org but my adept manager doesn't look the same. when i go to "Adept -> Manager Repositories", I don't get a dialog box, instead i get what looks like the config file and disabled out lines are grey..03:51
gesslari'm in feisty, now03:51
gesslarso i can't do as it recommends and enable "recommended updates" and "pre-released updates" repositories03:52
gesslaras they're not listed03:52
Jucatogesslar: install software-properties-kde03:53
gesslari'm installing that now, thanks03:55
shawnsoniumso, yeah. I upgraded to 7.10 and now the xorg-ati driver shows me a beautiful black screen on X startup. what the deuce...03:55
gesslarthanks a lot for your help03:56
shawnsoniumi'm running under vesa right now, but i miss the speediness i had with feisty + xorg-ati03:56
* gesslar thanks Jucato 03:56
AT0M1CB0MB3Rshawnsonium: use the restricted drivers03:57
kudarhow can slow wireless internet NOT be a known bug03:58
kudari have ugraded drivers, reinstalled and my wireless is slow as balls03:58
shawnsoniumalright, i'll give that a go. thanks03:58
AT0M1CB0MB3Romg my computer is running so much faster after ditching super karamba04:00
Jucatosome SK themes are buggy and resource intensive.04:01
Jucatosome are properly done though04:01
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: if i could have superkaramba running correctly my linux would be so sexy04:02
Jucatojust look for a good theme04:02
Jucato(check the ratings of the theme)04:02
kudarjucato: what up. check out my speed results to a server right by me04:02
kudarjucato: http://www.speedtest.net/result/195144250.png04:02
Jucatowow. funky. no idea though04:03
kudarwho me?04:03
kudaryou saying funky to me?04:03
Jucatoyeah I have no idea what's causing your slow internet (if you consider that slow...)04:03
kudari consider it slow yes04:03
Jucatomy download doesn't even reach 512kbps :)04:04
kudarits cable and im  uploading faster than dling04:04
kudaryou have dsl?04:04
Jucatoyep. but a low subscription04:04
AT0M1CB0MB3Rheres mine http://www.speedtest.net/result/195144731.png04:04
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbah what04:05
Jucatomaking me jealous04:05
dystopianraydoes anyone have any idea when the kopete fix will hit gutsy-updates ?04:05
Jucatodystopianray: not sure. unless you're on 64-bit, there's a fix already (install a .deb)04:06
AT0M1CB0MB3Ri got a better result this time Jucato http://www.speedtest.net/result/195145109.png04:07
dystopianrayJucato: there are debs for both 32-bit and 64-bit04:07
Jucatothat's good then04:07
smorgwhats the thing called again to convert tar to deb?04:12
needleswhat does "end with an empty line" mean04:13
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Jucatosmorg: no such thing. there's checkinstall, but you need to do some intermediate steps04:14
hydrogenmost unix tools expect files to have a blank line at the end04:14
Jucato!checkinstall | smorg04:14
ubotusmorg: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!04:14
needleshydrogen : what do you do though?04:14
needleshit enter?04:14
smorgah ty04:14
needlesspace so theres another line04:14
hydrogenat the bottom of the file04:14
* Jucato is not hydrogen04:14
dsmith_thers mine04:15
smorgtrying to get firefox going... the one in the kubuntu repository seems always out of date04:15
hydrogenor the simplest way, echo >> filename04:15
dsmith_seems kinda slow04:15
smorgbut only comes as a tar bundle04:15
Jucatosmorg: what version of Kubuntu are you using?04:15
Jucato!info firefox04:15
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needles"Enter the user ID. End with an empty line: "04:15
hydrogenbefore we get into this discussion again!04:15
Jucatowehere's the bot..04:15
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version (gutsy), package size 8960 kB, installed size 26008 kB04:15
melodyHello.  I'm using adept package manager, try to do a distrobution upgrade.... but it keeps failing at a certain point downloading the updates04:15
needlesim enting my UID in and hitting enter, and it keeps asking me to do it again and again04:15
hydrogeni'm going fooding04:16
smorgyea should be
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Jucatosmorg: well wait for updates :)04:16
hydrogenneedles: you hit enter twice?04:16
Jucato2.0.0.6 isn't so old04:16
smorgor I could try iceweasel04:16
IronHanshey guys how do i configure java with firefox??04:16
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dystopianrayIronHans: you mean you want to install java for firefox?04:17
melodyCan I do the distro 'upgrade' from an installed version of Tribe 5?04:17
dystopianrayIronHans: the latest java from sun?04:18
Jucatomelody: just do normal upgrade04:18
dystopianraymelody: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:18
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IronHanslook, i've installed with adept but it doesn't work04:18
JucatoIronHans: install sun-java6-plugin04:18
melodydystopianray: I did that..and it came back with 0 upgrades.04:19
Jucatomelody: that means you're up to date04:19
Jucatoif you upgraded daily from Tribe 504:19
melodythen why is adept manager telling me there is a distro upgrade and has a big ole button there for it?04:19
Jucatoit's a bug04:20
melodycan I get around that?  convince it I'm good to go?04:20
dystopianrayignoer it04:20
Jucatoignore it until the bugfix arrives04:20
needlesis it possible to encrypy a folder in one command from gpg?04:20
melodydystopianray: will I be able to continue to get normal updates then? (just ignoring the distro upgrade button)04:21
Jucatomelody: es04:21
dystopianraymelody: as, it's a bug, just ignore the distro upgrade thing04:21
melodyokay. thank you.04:21
melodybtw, is googleearth not in the repositories?04:22
dystopianraymelody: it is not04:22
frank23melody: it's in medibuntu right now04:22
IronHanstnx jucato04:23
draikFor those who have upgraded to 7.10... How long did it take to upgrade everything?04:23
kudar_what cd burning utility should i use?04:26
IronHansit depends, i think it must take 3 hours04:26
Jucatokudar_: k3bn04:26
Jucatokudar_: k3b04:26
Jucatodraik: depends on your server's load04:26
kudar_im about to burn gentoo 2007 iso04:26
dystopianraykudar_: definetly k3b04:26
kudar_gonna see if gentoo lets my wifi card work properly04:26
dystopianraykudar_: haha, good luck with that04:27
dystopianraykudar_: what card do you have anyway?04:27
kudar_dystopianray: why you say that04:27
kudar_intel pro 4964agn04:27
dystopianraydoesn't gutsy have the iwlwifi driver?04:27
kudar_i have even uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers04:28
kudar_no luck04:28
dystopianraybut it doesn't work?04:28
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwhats the best instant messaning program?04:28
kudar_its slow04:28
kudar_very slow04:28
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwhats the best instant messaging program?04:28
dystopianrayAT0M1CB0MB3R: they're all pretty crap04:28
kudar_it works04:28
kudar_its just slow04:28
kudar_atomic: pidgin04:28
AT0M1CB0MB3Rkudar_: ok04:28
Jucato!best | AT0M1CB0MB3R04:28
ubotuAT0M1CB0MB3R: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:28
dystopianrayAT0M1CB0MB3R: kopete04:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stink - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:28
dystopianrayAT0M1CB0MB3R: what IM networks do you want to use and do you want to use webcam?04:29
JucatoAT0M1CB0MB3R: word of advice, ask a "what is the best" question and you'll get so many different answers04:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdystopianray: yes04:29
Jucatothat leaves you with kopete then04:29
AT0M1CB0MB3RJucato: i realized that lol04:29
Jucatopidgin afaik still doesn't have webcam support04:29
dystopianrayAT0M1CB0MB3R: kopete supports msn and yahoo webcam04:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdystopianray: i have a webcam sight so im all good ill just use pidgin04:30
IronHansi can't close java applet windows, why?04:32
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbye everybody :[04:34
AT0M1CB0MB3Rim tired bed time its 8:34pm here but i woke up at 2:00am so im a little tired so bye04:34
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soulwarpcan anyone recommend a decent torrent program other than ktorrent?04:36
soulwarpopen source04:36
ubunturosbittorrent, and Ktorrent come with kubuntu04:36
soulwarpi used to like ktorrent untill they took the options to select seperate files to download from torrents that provide multiple files04:39
soulwarpin the new kubuntu upgrade04:39
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Dr_willissoulwarp,  clarify that a bit? I can select sepreate files from torrents...04:50
Dr_willisi can tag them to not be downloaded, or first, last, ect..04:50
soulwarp<Dr_willis>the client changes since 7.04-7.10 transition04:51
soulwarp<Dr_willis>not sure where it's now located04:51
strtokhey, anyone know how to turn off touchpad tap mouse clicks ? (where if you tap the pad, it's a mouse click)04:51
Dr_willisusing 7.10 right now. Ive not noticed any changes.  But i dont use a lot of the  options04:51
strtoki've found it's wayyy too sensitive04:51
Dr_willisstrtok,  thers some synaptic touch pad tools04:51
strtokDr_willis: tpconfig and gsynaptics?04:53
Hoondiehey people, whats the command to access the restricted drivers application?04:54
soulwarp<Hoondie>you will have to change your repository in your adept package manager04:55
soulwarp<Hoondie>look for the unchecked options04:55
ray_Hey... I have kind of a weird question04:55
Hoondiesoulwarp: i thought it came with gutsy?04:55
ray_Will kernels from other distros work if I compile them?04:56
ray_Like, if I use a Gentoo kernel with Kubuntu on top of it04:56
soulwarp<Hoondie>the repository is there, it's just unchecked by default04:56
Dr_willis!find synaptics04:56
ubotuFound: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, libsynaptics-dev, libsynaptics0 (and 2 others)04:56
Dr_willisHoondie,  i normally install /use 'restricted-manager' tool04:57
Dr_willisray_,  why do you need to do this?04:57
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages04:57
soulwarpmaybe he is bored :)04:58
ray_It's just that I don't like the kubuntu kernel04:59
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Dr_willisor into S&M04:59
Dr_willisray_,  well thats.. vague. :)04:59
HoondieDr_willis: thanks, installing now :)04:59
ray_I don't like how large the resolution is set in the boot and that there is no color.  Ubuntu's kernel seems to have removed the options to change it.05:00
Dr_willislarge the res in the boot? You mean the framebuffer settings?05:00
AlethesFailure registering capabilities with primary security module. <-- I get this error when I try to start bind905:00
Aletheswhat's giving me this error?05:00
Dr_willisi always totally disable framebuffer. :)05:00
soulwarphe means the login menu i think05:00
ray_Yes, the login menu, but also the messages when it's booting up05:01
ray_and just everything not in x05:01
soulwarpsometimes the login menu is larger than the desktop resolution settings05:01
soulwarpi noticed that too05:01
Dr_willisHmm..  Thats because the USER can have their own X resolution setting. Im not aware of this being a kernel issue at all.05:02
Dr_willisyou can set the default res in the xorg.conf and kdm will use that.05:02
ray_In the Gentoo kernel (and I'm assuming the vanilla kernel) there was an option to choose that resolution...but I can't find it in the ubuntu kernel05:02
Dr_williswell have fun :)05:02
ray_I'm not talking about in the x server05:03
Dr_willisI dont think gentoo uses a vanilla kernel.  And ym not sure what ya mean by Login menu then. If you are nor refering to KDM.05:03
Dr_willisray_,  thats just the consoles.. if you are using the framebuffer you can set the res of that on the fly05:04
Dr_willis!info fbset05:04
ubotufbset: framebuffer device maintenance program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-19ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 100 kB, installed size 324 kB05:04
ray_Oh thanks : )05:04
ray_I guess I just haven't found it yet05:04
Dr_willisand the kernel option to set those is like vga=791 or similer05:05
Dr_willisI always use the 'nofb' option to totally disable the framebuffer and give me a 'old fashined' console screen05:05
juandoes anyone know how to tell adept installer to stop reminding me about one specific package05:05
slimjimflim_hi. i lost my "start button" how do i get it back?05:05
* Dr_willis rembers when the framebuffer was cutting edge and everyone had these high hopes for it.. now it seems its just used for purty splash type screens.05:05
ray_info fbset05:06
ray_oh whoops05:06
Dr_willisslimjimflim_,  right click on the panel and use the 'add to panel item'05:06
slimjimflim_i mean i lost the kmenu05:06
Dr_willisadd applet to panel ---> Kmenu05:07
slimjimflim_you mean 'add new panel'?05:07
Dr_willisi mean 'add applet to panel' :)05:07
Dr_willisThe K menu is just one of many panel applets.05:08
juandr willis is a very fast typer05:08
Dr_willisadd the 'settings applet' also - Its my Fave. :)05:08
Dr_willisjuan,  yep. :) and some times i even spell things right05:09
slimjimflim_ok, thanks05:09
Dr_williswhats amazing is how i type.. i got full use of my left hand.. but the right hand i use one finger to type with.. since i broke the hand years ago..05:09
Dr_willisand cant wiggle the fngers sideways as much. :)05:09
juanDr_willis, do you know by any chance jow to tell my adept manager to stop reminding me about a specific program?05:10
Dr_willisreally really got my 'typing' teacher mad. :)05:10
Dr_willisI rarely use adept manager. sorry cant help ya there. Whats its reminding you to do?05:10
slimjimflim_i also have a problem where my resolution gets reset whenever i restart x, maybe off-topic, but is there a kde setting for that?05:10
Dr_willisslimjimflim_,  thats odd. the xorg.conf sets the resolutions. You could set the default res in there.05:10
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:10
Dr_willisnow a days X querys the monitor for what res's it can habndle and uses that info.05:11
juanto upgrade freepops, but if i do, i wont be able to use "localhost" it doesnt connect to it with that version05:11
Dr_willisxorg.conf often dosent need the info.05:11
Dr_willis!info freepops05:11
ubotufreepops: POP3 interface to several webmail sites. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-1 (gutsy), package size 259 kB, installed size 1188 kB05:11
Dr_willisyou got a webmail server on localhost?05:11
juanyep, yahoo on kmail05:11
Dr_willisset up a different name for the machine in the hosts file that points to perhaps.05:12
Dr_willisor use its actual ip#05:12
DaveQBwhats happened to kdrc in Gutsy ??05:13
DaveQBi cant for the life of my find it05:13
juanDr_willis that sounds like chinese to me05:14
Dr_willisjuan,  your machine has a name Other then localhost. and an ip other then
juanyeah, that i know05:15
juanbut how do i use my actual ip?05:15
Dr_willis127.0.0.1       localhost05:15
Dr_willis   mythbox05:15
soulwarp<DaveQB>it may be a restricted module, check your repositories05:15
Dr_willisMy actual ip is in my hosts file (i put it there) with the mythbox name :) thats the name of this machine05:15
Dr_willisYours may have your machine name and
juanreally? i vae to put mythbox?05:16
Dr_willisNo... You PUT IN your machines name05:16
Dr_willisand your IP05:16
juanand where do i find out my machines name?05:17
Dr_willis you can set up all sorts of names in the hosts file if you want ted to.05:17
Dr_williswhat name did ya gibe it at install? what do ya see on your bash prompt?05:17
Dr_willistry the hostname command. :)05:17
Dr_willischeck the hosts file also.. it should be in there.05:17
dedii have a very high cpu usage on wa ( = iowait), how can i find out how this is caused?05:17
Dr_willislooks like your hostname is juan-dekstop05:18
DaveQBsoulwarp i definately have restricted enabled05:18
DaveQBany other thoughts guys ???05:18
Dr_williswillis@MythBox:~(.025 Mb)$05:18
juanso i would havce to put my ip + juan-desktop?05:19
hydrogenmy hostname is cooler05:19
slimjimflim_i don't really know what to edit. here's my xorg.conf     pastebin.ca/74633305:19
slimjimflim_i need 1024x76805:19
soulwarpE: Couldn't find package kdrc05:20
Dr_willisya could give the actual web address.. :)05:20
Dr_willismakes it easier to open the web browser05:20
Dr_willisModes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"05:21
Dr_willisYou are set to 1024x76805:21
Dr_williscould remove the other modes05:21
Dr_willisModes      "1024x768"05:21
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slimjimflim_hmm, ok05:23
Dr_willislogical eh?05:25
hydrogenit may not work though05:25
slimjimflim_/etc/init.d/kde restart  ???05:25
Dr_willisor just hit alt-ctrl-backspce05:26
soulwarpmy fav command05:26
juanDr_willis if i change my hot lo my ip, would i need to change my port? it is currently set to 200005:26
Dr_willislo is always thats localhost05:27
Dr_willisport shouldent need to be messed with05:27
juanwhy not?05:28
juani'm just learning05:28
Dr_williswhy should it. :)05:28
Dr_willisif your server is on port 2000 its on port 200005:28
juani don't knwo, on the freepops page it tells me to set it to 2000, so thats what i did05:28
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Dr_willisi dont see why it wouldent work on localhost really. that shouldent matter05:29
Dr_willisUnless the config for the program  needs to be tweeked.05:29
dennisterany other would-be gutsy upgraders having difficulty?05:30
dennisteri was finally able to solve mine yesterday, so at least i know what to expect, lol05:31
juanthat could be a motive05:31
iRnerdKi has a Gutsy now05:32
dennister<-----not too used to things not working anymore...kubuntu's spoiling me05:32
Dr_willisthats why i always do clean installs. :)05:33
iRnerdKi has 2 hard drives so backing up is a breeze05:33
dennisterI usually do clean installs, but this time i wanted to try to upgrade method...my installation/apps takes so long to get everything working the way I want i didn't want to start from scratch if i could help it05:34
slimjimflimDr_willis, that didn't work05:34
hydrogenI had no trouble updating05:34
Dr_willisive gotten wher ei make a little script that isntalls/tweaks things05:34
hydrogenbut I did it way back around tribe505:34
dennisterand i have 2 hdd's too, it's not difficult, just takes a long time05:34
Dr_willisslimjimflim,  what res is it using then?05:35
Dr_willisslimjimflim,  you did change ALL the  entrys that had those 3 modes?05:35
slimjimflim1024 again, but i had to reset it manually after kdm restarted05:35
dennister<-----had lots of probs, now mainly fixed05:35
Dr_willisreally ya just need to change the one thats being used with your color depth.05:35
Dr_willisDefaultDepth    2405:35
Dr_willisso you need to change the one under05:36
Dr_willisDepth       2405:36
Dr_willis        Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"05:36
iRnerdKi make a note of what i like on my system like sudo apt-get install xxx xxx ...05:36
slimjimflimyea, i changed all of them05:36
Dr_willisI make a script that has 'sudo apt-get  .... ' :) and i keep them handy for othe rmachines05:36
Dr_willisslimjimflim,  the user can also set their res. could be its overriding the default.. but if theres only 1 default  dont see how you are using anything OTHER then 1024x76805:37
Dr_williswhat res are you wanting to use? and what one are you using?05:37
slimjimflimi'm using 1024, i want 1024, but i had to set it manually05:38
slimjimflimi can't see why either05:38
sd32if I am using  kdm, do I want to unselect the gdm in the services settings?05:38
pillowpantswhats the command to have a .deb get its need dependencies05:38
Dr_willissd32,  no need. it sees that its not set to the default login manager. so it wont start.05:39
Dr_willisslimjimflim,  try making a new user - see if it affects them also.05:39
slimjimflimbtw, when i restarted kdm like instructed, it wouldn't restart, so i rebooted05:41
slimjimflimwhich i'm doing again now05:42
Dr_willisthats very weird....05:42
dennisterslimjimflim: sorry if i'm getting into your situation late, but what is your video card? i ask 'cause i had the same problem with a very old riva tnt2 card05:42
iRnerdKi think it was nvidia from what i saw in his pastebin05:43
dennisterit was an emergency replacement card for my son's pc...had to do tons of xorg.conf editing of modelines05:43
sd32is there a list somewhere, of the video cards that work with ubuntu?05:43
dennistersorry, read ^^^ but didn't see pastebin...will now05:44
Dr_willissd32,  when in doubt - stick with nvidia. :)05:44
sd32dr_willis, ok05:44
iRnerdKnvidia <305:44
elliott541aCan anyone help me get my sound working in gutsy? when I first installed, I did a sound test and it worked, but some ine over the weekend it seems to have quit.05:45
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:45
iRnerdK<elliott541a>also check your volume in mkix05:45
elliott541aVolume is up, sound system is enabled05:46
sd32I have a ati 9600 pro in here now but only have a 200 watt power supply, wonder what the fastest card I could use is?05:47
elliott541aIt would a be a lot cheaper to buy a new power supply than it would a new graphics card, I think05:47
iRnerdK<sd32>if you want accelerated graphics i think 30005:48
dennistersd32: i concur with elliott541a...you'll eventually need another PS anyway05:48
iRnerdKwould be better05:48
sd32its a small hp case I cant upgrade the power in05:48
dennisterthe newer video cards all want 6pin ps connectors...most 1+ yr-old PS's don't thave these 6pin connectors05:49
iRnerdKi've had a case like that, PS was hard to get to. i had to removed the ram and the cd drive to get to it05:50
Dr_willissd32,  id stick with a low end fanless nvidia card. :)05:51
dennisterslimjimflim: what kind of nvidia card do u have? the pastebin didn't say05:51
sd32it  was hp's glory days to make you upgrade sooner05:51
slimjimflimDr_willis, when i log in w/ my new user, the screen flashes and brings me back to the kdm login screen05:51
Dr_willissd32,   you can get a nice one for like $4005:51
slimjimflimit's an nvidia geforce 4 i think05:51
Dr_willisslimjimflim,  thats getting real weird.05:51
sd32that sounds good, thanks everyone!!05:52
sd32dr_willis, thanks05:52
dennisterslimok, not the same card & prob i solved then05:52
slimjimflimi did as root, useradd <a user>, passwd <that user>...<password>05:52
slimjimflimwas able to su to that user from console05:53
Dr_willistry 'startx' as that user see if theres any error messages05:53
Dr_willistry it as root and the inital user also.05:53
slimjimflimi'm gonna try from a different tty, and keep this one running05:54
Dr_willisTheres some real weirdness going on with this setup. Your xorg.conf seems right.05:54
Dr_willisand its very simple etup05:54
needles_where might i find the package libpurple0 for feisty, needed to install the gfire plugin for pidgin05:54
Dr_willis!find purple05:55
ubotuFound: libpurple-bin, libpurple-dev, libpurple005:55
Dr_willis!find purple feisty05:55
ubotuFile purple found in jpilot05:55
needles_ive found it for gutsy05:55
JucatoDr_willis: I doubt purple would be in feisty, since Pidgin isn't05:55
Dr_willislooks like it dosent exist in feissty. have to use the source05:55
needles_but i havent upgraded yet05:55
Dr_willisor just upgrade. :)05:56
needles_Dr_willis : yeah, i compiled pidgin from source05:56
needles_Dr_willis : im thinking i may05:56
needles_is it safe?05:56
needles_ive been debating whether or not to do so05:56
Dr_willisIf you dident have that libpurple hen you compiled.. you may need to install it and recompile.05:56
Dr_willisI always do clean installs :)05:56
dennisterisn't pidgin great? better than kopete...and gutsy's dolphin is so much better than konq or the dolphin i had with feisty05:56
needles_dennister : pidgin is great05:56
* Dr_willis pukes on Dolphin and stuffs it into Tuna Cans05:57
Dr_willisFirst thing i do.. set Konqueror back to the default filemanager05:57
Jucato(kde4's dolphin is 10x much better than gutsy's... which isn't really dolphin)05:57
dennisterbut Dr_willis: why?!!!05:57
Dr_willisdennister,  because i USE the features in Konqueror thats not in dolphin.05:57
dennisteri can't wait for kde4...i want arts out!05:57
Dr_willisI dont see much  in dolphin that i need. that benifites me05:58
Jucatodennister: arts has been only an optional dependency in KDE since 3.5.x05:58
sd32kde4 is in december correct?05:58
needles_ok, its official, im going to upgrade05:58
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes05:58
Jucatounfortunately, most binary distros opt to make it required05:58
iRnerdKyay :D05:58
dennisterheheheh...well gutsy's dolphin is still kinda new to me, i like how i can actually start it with the details view instead of icons05:58
needles_kde4 looks promising05:58
dennister<-------hates! icon-based file managers05:58
Dr_willisYou can set Konqueror to start in detail views..05:58
* Jucato loves icons in file manglers :)05:59
Jucatoer.. managers...05:59
* needles_ likes to set it based on the folders contents05:59
Jucatokonq could do that too05:59
iRnerdKi like dolphin05:59
Jucatobut thanks to Kubuntu's menu handling... it's not so easy05:59
iRnerdKsomething different05:59
dennisterwell. i loved the old dos xtree gold, so...05:59
Dr_willisi tend to use 'mc' for my needs. :)06:00
Jucatokonq can do that too!06:00
dennisteryes, i tried to get konq to open and use tree or details as the default view, but it was frustrating06:00
Jucatoer.. am I beginning to repeat myself? :P06:00
Dr_willisfustrating? set the default profile?06:00
Jucatodennister: not really frustrating...06:00
Jucatobut Kubuntu took out 2 very useful menu entries from the Settings menu06:01
Jucato(and removed the whole Window menu)06:01
Dr_willisYea - i dislike it when the disrtos remove features like that.06:01
Jucato(and Go menu)06:01
Dr_williswonder how to replace those06:01
dennisterwell, Dr_willis i tried that, but i never pretended to be as experienced as you are06:01
dennisterJucato: which menu entries r u talking about?06:02
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Jucatodennister: hm? just change the View mode then Save View Profile06:02
Jucato"Save View Changes Per Folder" and "Remove Folder Properties" in the Settings menu06:02
Jucatothe first one allows you to set a different View mode per folder06:02
Dr_willisThers was a extra profiles settings ya could set up also. at one time06:02
dennisterwell, i've got dolphin now...and it will help me get my linux-resisting son to be more receptive :)06:03
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dennisterworthy goal, eh?06:03
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Dr_willisI still dont see much that dolphin.. unless you perfer the 'less is  more' thing...06:03
Jucatoironcially, it was Konqueror that made more receptive to KDE :D06:03
JucatoDr_willis: it's a powerful tool for simple uses06:03
Jucatonot really for everyone06:03
Jucatojust as Konqueror isn't for everyone06:03
Dr_williswe all should use mc !@ ;)06:03
needles_i like konq for file browsing, but not as web surfing06:04
iRnerdKtry ubuntu ;p06:04
Jucatoyay for choice! :P06:04
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Dr_willisI just dont see what the hype is about dolphin. of coourse there are those dolphin bugs people keep comming in with...06:04
JucatoiRnerdK: no thanks. I'm insane enough as it is :D06:04
JucatoDr_willis: there's no hype.. there's lots of anti-hype in fact06:04
Dr_willisgive me Krusader! ;)06:04
Dr_willis!info krusader06:04
Jucatoand you have to differentiate dolphin (KDE4) from d3lphin06:04
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0-1 (gutsy), package size 3102 kB, installed size 8736 kB06:05
dennisteryes, choice is what makes it so strong...and some newbies (like my kid) need less is more06:05
Dr_willisJucato,  just what we need.. more confisuing names! :)06:05
JucatoDr_willis: not dolphiin's fault06:05
dennisteryes Dr_willis i had krusader for awhile (still might) i very much liked how it was so much like xtree gold06:05
JucatoRead: http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/download.html and See: https://marrat.homelinux.org/D3lphin06:05
Dr_willisDolphin-Fuzion!  thats what we need!06:05
Jucatowon't happen. The real Dolphin is too much Qt4/KDE406:06
dennisterbut because it would only run as root, i felt it was more dangerous for the kiddies/newbs06:06
Jucatod3lphin won't be able to merge...06:06
iRnerdKwhat's next? manatee file manager?06:06
Dr_williskrusader in no way should 'only' run as root.06:06
* Jucato would go for mantaray06:06
* Jucato always found ray's fascinating...06:06
dennisterwell id did run with root, and i was too lazy to figure out how to change that feature06:07
iRnerdKpidgins are cool06:07
Dr_willisif you user ran it.. then it should of ran as the user running it..06:07
* iRnerdK looks at his messanger06:07
Gun_SmokeI killed kubuntu today...06:08
dennisterwehen i started krusader, it asked me for password...like i said, too much work to get it configured differently06:08
Dr_willispassword? Hmm.. somthing seems confused here...06:08
* Jucato arrests Gun_Smoke06:08
* Dr_willis instals krusader and checks it out...06:09
* Dr_willis thinks it may be a PEBKAC :)06:09
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dennisterPEBKAC? translation?06:09
Dr_willisProblem exists between Keyboard and Chair.06:10
hellhoundhow can I have KDE remember a window's location on the dektop?06:10
_nix_hello everyone.. I just installed kubuntu 7.10 and I think I chose the wrong keyboard layout in the alternate installer. Is there a way to fix this?06:10
dennisterahhhh.... i'd seen taht acronym b406:10
Dr_willishellhound,  right click on the titlebar - look under the 'advanced' settings - you can tweak all sorts of that stuff06:10
Gun_SmokeJucato: I remember you from earlier...... I've been with u/k-buntu for a while now..06:11
needles__nix_ : xserver-xorg edit06:11
Jucato[13:10] <Jucato> right-click on the window titlebar -> Advanced -> SPecial Window Settings06:11
Jucato[13:11] <hellhound> Jucato: i do not have that option when i right click the titlebar06:11
needles_i forgot the real command, my memory fails me06:11
Jucatohellhound: press Alt+F3?06:11
Jucatohellhound: unless you're using something like Compiz?06:11
needles_can someone tell _nix_ the command06:12
_nix_Ill try that out.. couldnt type the single quote thing..06:12
hellhoundJucato: yes i am using compiz06:12
Jucato!xconfig | needles_06:12
ubotuneedles_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes06:12
Jucatohellhound: that's the problem then :)06:12
needles__nix_ : ---^06:12
Jucatoyou'll have to check if compiz has that kind of setting/features06:12
Jucatohellhound: #compiz-fusion06:12
hellhoundJucato: i take there is no way around then?06:12
dennisterhellhound: then alt+f2 will give you a command bar, type in ccms06:12
needles_!xconfig | _nix_06:12
ubotu_nix_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes06:12
Gun_SmokeBut it busted for know reason after a logout and there was a pcBSD sitting right next to ubuntu.. BSD is winning.. I don't know anything about it... But so far it's been even easier then buntu06:12
xevioushellhound: i had compiz set so that it should remember the location of windows, and it didn't06:12
Jucatohellhound: there is *if* compiz has that feature06:13
_nix_thanks a lot06:13
Dr_willisthose are some the tough choices with compiz or not... :)06:13
* xevious ditched compiz and waits for kde406:13
hellhounddennister: ccms "could not run the specified command"06:13
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:13
dennisterhellhound: sorry! the command is ccsm06:13
Dr_willisyet another brilantly named command. :)06:14
dennisterlots of ways to tweak compiz with that one06:14
Jucatocompiz c_____ settings manager?06:15
Gun_SmokeAnyhow.... What else is breaking and not working in k?06:15
_nix_umm sorry but that just reconfigured the video settings.. but there was nothing that allowed me to choose a new keyboard layout! :-(06:15
sd32<---was finally able to fully turn off ipv6 with the blacklist command...phew!!!06:15
xeviousJucato: replace _____ with rap06:15
Jucatoxevious: hahaha06:16
* Gun_Smoke Needs a restart (kernel update) hold that thought........06:16
Jucato_nix_: which command did you use?06:16
_nix_jucato: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:16
Jucatohm.. it should ask you for the keyboard layout at the very beginning06:16
needles_how long does it take to upgrade from feisty to gutsy?06:16
dennisterneedles_: when it finally did work for me, about 3 hours06:17
needles_i guess ill wake up to it then06:17
hellhounddennister: do you know of a way to tell it fix window placement of a certain application?06:17
dennisterno almost 4 hrs06:17
xeviousmine took about 306:17
Jucatohellhound: you might want to ask in #compiz-fusion how to do that...06:18
dennisterhellhound: sorry, i'm still very new to compiz, was starting work on it earlier, so that's why i remembered the ccsm stuff06:18
needles_dennister : what problems did you have06:18
xevioushellhound: #compiz-fusion can help you better, but i think it was making sure "Place windows" is enabled and setting it to smart placement06:18
xevioushellhound: but it didn't work no matter what i tried, so i gave up on compiz06:19
dennisterhellhound: this is a very basic howto; it won't tell you what specifically you want to know now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion06:19
hellhoundJucato & dennister: thank you06:19
_nix_jucato: oh.. k I had to type the keyboard layout there.. thanks. I was looking for something more in the lines of what I saw in the alternate installer.06:19
dennisterneedles_: first, with my repositories, the canadian server was having probs06:19
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:19
Dr_williscompiz has more tweakd and tools and thangs..  :)06:19
dennisteri changed them to us server, and things were much better and faster06:19
Jucato_nix_: you mean like the one in System Settings -> Regional & Language?06:20
* xevious goes to find food06:20
dennisterthen, when all the fetching got done, it disappeared, and i didn't realize the fetching had only loaded them into adept06:20
_nix_jucato: yeah kinda' but its working now. I can type the single qoute thing.. some of my online passwords had this. thanks a lot.06:21
Angelusno wonder why the splashcreen doesn't appear on kubuntu gutsy amd64, the vesafb  module is not compiled...06:21
dennisterneedles_: then adept crashed as soon as i tried to install those getched updates, and i had to finish it via the shell06:21
Dr_willisI think there were a lot of issues with the vesafb stuff befor.. so they removed it. :)06:21
dennister*fetched updates06:21
dennisterneedles_: with me so far? :P06:22
AngelusDr_willis: and make people stay with a monitor turned off insteaf of a splash screen? nice06:22
Dr_willisI always disable the lame splash so i can see the messages06:23
Dr_willisi disable the framebuffer also.06:23
Dr_williscant say that ive seen the monitor be 'off'06:23
JucatoDr_willis: I wish I could have both, just like the old usplash from Breezy06:23
Jucatoand Dapper (iirc)06:23
Dr_willisI recall a few disrtos that had a purty boot screen AND the messages in the bottom half.06:23
Dr_willisthats the best of both worlds i guess. :)06:23
Jucato*buntu used to have too06:23
Dr_willisthen ya got the ones that put ugly gfx on the consoles and take up space. :)06:24
Angelusso now i have to compile a custom kernel everytime to get bootup splash. nice :O06:24
dennisteri like the backdrop from gentoo for my grub menu...quite purty06:24
Dr_willisAngelus,  the humanity of it all...06:24
Dr_willisthe things people do for eyecandy. :()06:24
Angelusim addicted to eyecandy06:24
Dr_willisIm addicted to stability and being informed. :)06:25
Angelusbut Dr_willis still06:25
dennisterheheheh...i don't care for eye candy myself, but i'm forcing myself to care for the convincing-my-son goal06:25
JucatoI'm addicted to what I personally consider as useful/helpful eyecandy06:25
dennistergive my kid a cool look...and he's instantly sold06:25
Dr_willisI under stand more and more why Kubuntu dident put Compiz in by default. :)06:25
Jucatothat is, eyecandy that isn't (imho) senseless (wobbly windows?!?!)06:25
Jucatothe reason is more technical though :)06:26
xeviousi liked expo06:26
AngelusDr_willis: by default kubuntu-desktop install the bootup splash, which people on a computer like mine will get the monitor turned off instead of the splash  because there is no vesafb module, its not good like that:p06:26
Dr_williswait for about a year from now - when every  kid has some compiz addons for more eyecandy06:26
xeviousbut compiz crashed my X server about every 20 minutes06:26
Angelusi love compiz06:26
Jucatoxevious: that's one useful, sensible eyecandy :)06:26
xeviousJucato: Zoom was also useful06:27
Dr_willisAngelus,  marry it then. :)06:27
Jucatoxevious: another one :)06:27
Angelusif i didn't have a girlfriend, i would.06:27
xeviousJucato: and the drawing fire on the desktop one!06:27
Jucatothe cube is semi-useful only. the desktop grid/wall is much more sensible for me06:27
* Dr_willis now pronounces you Eyecandy and User.06:27
iRnerdKi tryed beryl06:27
iRnerdKwasn't bad06:27
Angelustry compiz-fusion06:27
Dr_willisI dont find the cube usefull at all.. it dont work/look too good with -  dual monitors.06:27
iRnerdKk :P06:27
AngelusDr_willis: i make the cube turn everytime i change from program to program06:28
Angelusits c00l06:28
xeviousJucato: actually funny story, i was filling out the FAFSA, and the page wouldn't search for my school. just wouldn't do anything when i clicked search. so i drew a line of fire underneath it and tried again and it worked06:28
JucatoDr_willis: semi-useful only... in the sense that it gives the user a visual metaphor of an otherwise abstract "multiple desktops"06:28
xidhmm... I enabled dual screen in the display settings and now it boots to a command prompt, I type startx and it says "Requested Entity already in use"... how do I revert to original settings?06:28
needles_is my system going to have to be restarted while i upgrade?06:28
iRnerdKi never used the cube, but when you move the mouse to the upper right it puts all the windows at your reach in a thumbnail type deal06:28
JucatoiRnerdK: expose06:29
Dr_willisexpose donmt work too good with dual monitors either06:29
dennisterAngelus: i need to learn how to do that. make the cube do things...having some trouble with the CompizConfig Settings Manager tho06:29
JucatoDr_willis: not everyone has dual monitors (and therefore not everyone has headaches) :P06:29
xidHow do I boot my machine?06:29
Dr_willisCompiz stuff needs a tool to let yu easially print out all the darn shortcuts its using...06:29
apparlehow to compile .c and .cpp codes. I am just learning the language06:29
dennisterneedles_: yes, there's a new kernel, too06:29
needles_dennister : ah, i see06:30
dennisterneedles_: oops! sorry06:30
dennisternot during the upgrade, after it's finished06:30
needles_dennister : ah06:30
dennisteryou'll want to reboot into the new kernel the upgrade provides06:30
needles_because i want to watch a movie06:30
Angelusdennister: easy, make 6 desktops, and reduce the turning speed of the rotate cube "accalaratio and speed options reduce them" . and open a program on a each desktop instead off all programs in 1 desktop, and when you swtich from 1 to other you'll have a nice cube turning everytime :p06:31
Angelusim out now, night peace06:31
* Angelus gone06:31
dennisterwell gnome said to close all apps, but when it did work for me i refused to close other apps and do nothing...it was fine to do other stuff06:31
xidhmm... I can't boot my machine.  It boots to a command prompt and says "requested entity already in use" ever since I enabled dual displays06:31
Jucatoapparle: install build-essential. then for .c (C code) "gcc filename.c -o what_you_want_the_program_to_be_called"06:31
xidhow do I revert to single display?06:31
Jucatoapparle: for .cpp (C++ code), use g++ instead of gcc06:31
apparleJucato: Give me an example06:31
dennisterAngelus: thank you...do you have a half decent howto to fully explain the CompizConfig Settings Manager, how to make value strings, etc.?06:32
Jucatoapparle: give me a name of a .c file :)06:32
sabaccatusHas anyone installed the proprietary ATI drivers on 7.04 before?06:32
xidhmmm... I guess no one knows06:32
Jucatoapparle: "gcc hello.c -o hello" (explanation to follow)06:32
needles_canonical ltd. stopped supporting xmms?06:33
Jucatoapparle: this will compile hello.c and produce a program (executable file) named "hello"06:33
Jucatoneedles_: ?06:33
Dr_willisneedles_,  xmms has not been getting updated for some time06:33
needles_i was unaware of this06:33
Dr_willisneedles_,  check out the 'beep media player' or the Bmpx player06:33
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion06:33
Dr_willis!info xmms06:33
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB06:33
Jucatoneedles_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=xmms&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all06:33
Dr_willis!info bmpx06:34
ubotubmpx: Beep Media Player eXperimental. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.40.0~rc3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2999 kB, installed size 9264 kB06:34
apparleHow to connect net via mobile GPRS06:34
Jucatoplease try to search first before assuming :)06:34
needles_im not giving up on xmms06:34
needles_audacious is the next best thing06:34
Jucatoneedles_: even if the developers of xmms have? O.o06:34
Dr_willisYou should give up on xmms.. it has issues in a lot of ways now a days06:34
Jucatoamarok! :P06:34
Dr_willistheres that xmms2 i think. but its a REAL work in progress06:34
needles_Dr_willis : what issues does it have?06:34
needles_ive never noticed any06:34
needles_amarok takes up too many system resources06:35
apparleHow to connect net by GPRS through moto razor V3i06:35
Dr_willisneedles_,  lets see.. some how when ya doublesize it can crash X.. and a lot of other little things. the way it handles its window/decorations is also nonstandard practice i belive06:35
xiddang... kubuntu doesn't work... guess I'm going back to windows ... too much headache... no one can tell me how to fix it06:35
Dr_willisthere were some other issues with xmms and  X  i forget.06:35
xidnot even google06:35
needles_xid : what problems are you having06:36
Jucato!patience | xid06:36
ubotuxid: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:36
Dr_willisxid,  gee.. how verbose. :)06:36
xidsee scrollback06:36
xidI just need to know how to disable the setting I changed06:36
Dr_willisand you are using what video card?06:36
xidI changed it to enabled dual displays06:36
xidand now it boots to a command prompt06:37
xidwhen I type startx, it says "requested entity already in use"06:37
apparlefrom where do i get real player06:37
Dr_willislook in /etc/X11/ see if theres a backup xorg.conf  replace the existing one.06:37
xidthe video card that's embedded in the laptop06:37
xida Geforce Go 4 something or other06:37
dsmith_dev.not working on xmms no longer?06:37
xidhmm... I'll try that06:37
Dr_willisyou installed the nvida drivers and enableed twinview?06:37
xidDr_willis:  no nothing like that06:37
xidDr_willis: just a clean install of gutsy actually06:37
Dr_willisTo get dual displays with nvidia - i think you do need to use the nvidia drivers, and enable twinview.06:38
xidDr_willis: and went to system settings > display > enable dual displays or something06:38
xidok that's good to know06:38
Dr_willisthe nvidia cards have their own  nvidia-xsettings tool06:38
Dr_willisnvidia-bug-report.sh  nvidia-glx-config     nvidia-settings       nvidia-xconfig06:38
Dr_willisall part of the nvidia drivers package06:39
Dr_willisI normally just install/run the restricted-manager tool to enable the nvidia drivers.06:39
xidyes X is starting now thank you much06:39
Dr_willisthen use the nvidia-settings tool to enable twinview06:39
Dr_willisOf course ive been twidding with  nvidia and twinview for years. :)06:40
Dr_willisand read the various nvidia docs/readmes and stuff over the years heh.06:40
dennisterxid: see what happens when u show patience? Dr_willis is one of the best :)06:41
* Dr_willis blushes06:41
* Dr_willis is just RTFMING.. and spouting out what hes read..06:41
xidsorry to be so dramatic... it got your attention anyways06:41
apparleAny body knows how to play .rm ,.ra ,.rmvb files06:41
needles_xid : ive been there too06:41
Dr_willisxid,  actually all of this is proberly well documented on the ubuntu forums also.06:41
needles_xid : just have to ask a few times when it happens, the irc lines fill fast and stuff doesnt always get caught06:41
dennisterah yes, but sometimes the kind of attention u get is NOT what u desire06:42
Dr_willisand the !nvidia factoid06:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:42
needles_Dr_willis : that has never helped me, ever, ha06:42
needles_the nvidia factoid06:42
Dr_willisheck - i often check out the Gentoo docs/wikis for information. :)06:42
dennisteryes...i have a gentoo installation now, too, and i learned quite a bit with that and other gentoo documentation that i now apply to kubuntu06:43
needles_dennister : how did you isntall it?06:43
dennisterlike when i was getting clock drift...06:43
needles_stage 3, or through a livedc06:44
dennisterneedles_: u mean gentoo? use the minimal install only...nothing else works06:44
xidyou know how you google for stuff and sift through wikis and you never find the answer how to do the simplest thing and you wish you had your college professor's phone number?  That happens to me all the time since I installed linux on my laptop06:44
Dr_willisxid,  with linux to learn the fundamentals.06:44
Dr_willisit pays to learn the fundamentals06:44
xidyeah for sure06:44
dennisterand I rpinted out most of the handbook, too, to have handy during the install06:44
needles_xid : it took me two weeks flat to use linux comfortable and know my way around06:45
Dr_willisread, read and read more...  then when you need info.. rember where ya saw it mentoned and go back and read.06:45
needles_just takes some reading and patience06:45
needles_but it is really worth it06:45
WaltzingAlongand by that you mean some gnu/linux-based distribution like kubuntu or just putzing with the kernel?06:45
Dr_willisread throiugh the xorg.conf, and check the xorg.conf man pages. :) lots of neat info in there.06:45
needles_dennister : how long did the minimal install take you?06:45
Dr_willisI got a whole library of old linux books from the bargin bins.. in the 'library' :) right above the TOilet.06:46
needles_linux ebooks are available all over the place06:46
needles_i recommend the wiley linux bible06:46
Dr_willisneedles_,  and some of them are even legal! :)06:46
dennisterneedles_: i can't quite remember how long, it was a couple of months back now...but it is quite complicated, what with xorg and stuff the gentoo way...the minimal install and the handbook doesn't cover xorg06:46
analterrorHello there, i messed up my kmix settings, and want them back to default, i tried removing/reinstalling kmix, with no effect.06:47
Dr_willisproblem with a lot of the books are that they can get out of date with some 'tools' thats why you focus on the core fundamentals. not the fancy gui tools06:47
Dr_willisFundamentals dont change much06:47
needles_dennister : yeah, ive read the compile times for kde and openoffice alone are like 2 days06:47
dennisteri have the wiley linux bible here, too...and yes, they get out of date real fast...but then again, so do wikis and online documentation06:47
Dr_willis'removing/reinstalling' is a windows way.. :) that normally dosent do much under linux.06:47
Dr_willisanalterror,  clarify 'messed up'06:47
analterrorsounds really weird, i think maybe some crazy 3D effects06:48
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analterrori have SB 5.1 btw06:48
dennisterneedles_: i can't tell you how many times i re-compiled my kernel, what with the wiggy ivtv drivers for my mythtv06:49
Dr_willisanalterror,  ive never seen anything in kmix that can do that.06:50
Dr_willisanalterror,  of course reove/reinstalling kmix will NOT remove the users kmix settings06:50
Dr_willisthose are in   ~/.kde/share/config/kmix*06:50
dennisterneedles_: the long compile times and the long installation process is the key reason why you should keep kubuntu as your working isntallation, then you aren't dependent on gentoo to get things done...my gentoo is more my sandbox/learning tool06:50
Dr_willisYou might try removing those.. and make a new user  - see if his sound is messed up also06:51
apparlehow to play real player files06:51
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:51
madsi just got a freshly install on my computer06:51
madsbut when i try to apt-get06:51
madsit automatically takes the packages from the cdrom06:51
madshow do i change that to make it go online?06:51
analterrorDr_willis:  thanks, i'll try that :)06:52
madsa file on the cd when i try to apt-get xorg is corrupt.06:52
dennistermads:  in synaptic or adept, find the 'manage repositories"06:52
dennisterit's under one of the titlebar pulldown menus...uncheck the cdrom box06:52
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:53
dmitry_hello 2 all!06:53
dennistermads: that link should help you if u need more info06:53
madsim in console.-06:53
madsi dont have xorg installed.06:53
WaltzingAlongkopete crashing on gutsy with msn? check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit06:54
madsisnt there a configfile i can fix * in?06:54
dmitry_guys, i have installed virtualbox on Gibbon and this version of virtualbox doesn't hava usb support06:54
dennistermads: ok; type this: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list06:54
dmitry_how can i add usb support?06:54
DaSkreechWaltzingAlong: No kopete just sucks in general06:54
DaSkreechWaltzingAlong: Thanks though06:54
Dr_williswell night all.06:54
dennistermads: make sure the line with cd rom has a # mark at the beginning, and remove any #'s from lines you do want apt to use to fetch packages06:55
madsdennister: im guessing its etc/apt/sources.lst06:55
dennisterdidn't i say that?06:55
madsthere i only have 'deb cdrom'06:55
madsim not sure. did you? :x06:55
WaltzingAlongDaSkreech: sure thing06:56
madsshould i just add 'internet' or something?06:56
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:56
madsif i remove the cdrom theres nothing06:56
dennistermads...ok. hold on a sec06:56
apparleI want to know how to install realplayer on PC without net06:57
dennistermads: i've opened up a private channel for me to give you some multiple lines07:00
madswhich is?07:00
madsyou mean query.07:00
dennisterwhat client are u using to chat with us now? the channel should have popped up off the side or the bottom07:01
dennisteryou can't see the new private channel?07:01
madsthat's a query07:02
madsand you wrote 2 lines there07:02
madsi replied to those.07:02
contrast83Anyone know what might cause Active Desktop Borders to act like the pager's in two rows, even though it's only in one?07:02
madsit's in window 3.07:02
dennisteri don't see any replies07:02
madsi need to register07:02
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dennistermads: registering could take you awhile07:03
mads2it's already done.07:03
mads2try now.07:03
apparlewhat is KMplayer07:06
xeviousa kde frontend to mplayer07:06
apparleAnd what is it's konquerer plugin07:07
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xeviousi dunno07:09
xeviousi use firefox and there's just an mplayer plugin07:09
xeviousnot a kmplayer plugin07:09
needles_what program do you guys usally watch movies on07:09
apparlexevious: How do i install real player07:10
xeviousneedles_: i use kmplayer to watch movies that are located on my hard drive07:10
apparlexevious: in what way Kmplayer is better than kaffiene07:11
xeviousi use kaffeine07:11
xeviousused to use kmplayer07:11
xeviousdon't trust anything i say, i'm drunk07:12
needles_xevious : ha07:12
xeviousoh here's trouble07:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:12
emilsedghapparle: kmplayer is more stable07:12
apparlexevious: Tell me how to install rel player07:12
emilsedghapparle: also in i feel its more usable07:12
needles_i didnt know there was such a thing as kmplayer07:13
needles_i like vlc, but kaffeine is alot nicer07:13
sub[t]rnlvlc is slick07:13
sub[t]rnli stick with mplayer though07:13
needles_the only thing i dont like about kaffeine is the side bar07:14
needles_it reduces my watchable space07:14
xeviousapparle: i don't know how to install real player. i've never had a need for it07:14
needles_other than that, its pretty supurb07:14
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu07:15
needles_apparle : in what way are you trying to install it?07:15
needles_with firefox, or just realplayer alone07:15
sub[t]rnlapparle: https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/949/RealPlayer-10.0.3-rc1-xandros3.i586.deb.tar.bz207:16
DaSkreechapparle: Is realplayer useful on a PC without Net?07:17
miles_hello fellow kubuntu enthusiasts/users07:20
needles_oh man, im watching tron07:20
bazhanghi miles_07:20
needles_i havent seen this movie in ages07:20
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MilesGdoes anyone in here use conky?07:20
needles_MilesG : i used to07:21
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:21
MilesGneedles_: i found out what it was today, this thing is crazy!07:21
needles_MilesG : how is it crazy?07:21
MilesGwell..its not really, i am configuring it through .conkyrc, i appreciate all that you can do with it07:22
needles_MilesG : yeah, i liked it07:23
MilesGneedles_: why did you stop using it?07:23
needles_MilesG : i dont remember07:24
needles_MilesG : i think i reformatted my hd and just forgot to redo it07:24
guillermoky webcam has been recognized as another camera and it does not work how do i change that?07:25
MilesG!hi | capcom07:27
ubotucapcom: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:27
diomedeshow can I get a root console so I can dispence with using sudo its annoying as hell07:28
MilesGdiomedes: in konsole, hold the left mouse button down on the "make new tab" button and select root console07:28
needles_MilesG : haha07:29
cap|comi am using gutsy on my acer travelmate 650 notebook. when starting up, my screen turns completely white during the splash screen is displayed. when i remove the boot parameter "splash" it's fine. this was already in the first months of feisty but had been fixed later. with gutsy the problem has reappeared07:30
MilesGneedles_: what?07:31
sub[t]rnlcap|com: yeah, theres a problem with the gutsy kernel and vesab.  It's being sorted07:31
needles_MilesG : left click on such and such, just thought it was funny07:32
cap|comsub[t]rnl: okay, thanx. i just wanted to give this "bug" report in case it is not still known07:32
sub[t]rnlthanks for the input07:32
diomedesit there an issue with gutsy and dual screening?07:33
sub[t]rnlnot that I know of07:33
sub[t]rnlthough, I havn't managed it with the intel driver07:33
MilesGneedles_: i guess? i mean, i just happened to know?07:34
diomedesI have a laptop I installed before that uses a 22" display  1680x1050 works great, I set it to use the laptops own display as "2" 1440x900 it told be to logout and restart X, after doing this X won't restart, even after a reboot07:34
needles_whats the number one problem people complain about in gutsy07:34
cap|comwith gutsy afaik usb-connected printers are recognized and installed automatically?07:34
apparlehow to install realplayer files07:34
MilesG"wtf compiz"07:35
needles_yeah, heard that07:35
sub[t]rnldiomedes: rebooting wont change a non working /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:35
needles_bazhang : i heard wireless was improved07:35
diomedessub shouldn't gutsy's display tool not borke the x11 conf07:35
bazhangneedles_: hugely improved; wireless on laptops is tough for all distros07:35
godfoddercould anyone suggest a program for kubuntu that works like daemon tools for windows?07:36
sub[t]rnldiomedes: that would be nice, but its not the case07:36
godfodderi only installed this a couple days ago and i don't know much about it07:37
sub[t]rnldiomedes: there are a lot of variables that come into play.  like if your current xorg.conf uses the same screen or monitor identifiers, things can get jumbled07:37
cap|comdoes somebody use a canon s820 printer, or is there a report on how well this device is integrated now? i formerly had to choose the cpus driver for s800 to get this printer to work, but the result was not really satisfying. i had to use turboprint for better results. should that work better now out of the box?07:37
bazhanggodfodder: what's the function of daemon tools?07:37
cap|comcpus = cups07:37
godfodderit was to mount images and such07:37
MilesG"omg how do i get the cube!?"07:38
diomedessub so who are you ment to get dual displays to work?07:38
bazhanggodfodder: for burning to disk?07:38
needles_MilesG : ive never seen anyone say it like that07:38
godfoddervirtual drives :)07:38
DaSkreech !real apparle07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about real apparle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:38
bazhanggodfodder: virtualbox07:38
DaSkreech !real | apparle07:39
apparleanybody knows how to connect to net on kubuntu using GPRS07:39
ubotuapparle: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:39
godfodder:) ty07:39
sub[t]rnldiomedes: with xinerama and knowing how to manually edit xorg.conf07:39
DaSkreechNight Jucato07:39
guillermoneed to chane thte driver of my webcam07:39
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox07:39
guillermocan it be done?07:39
apparleDaSkreech: i donot have net on my PC which package should i download and install at home07:39
DaSkreechapparle: real.com has a package if you want full real player07:40
diomedessub so the tool in gutsy is trash then i take it07:40
JucatoDaSkreech: bye07:40
apparleDaSkreech: Is it free07:40
sub[t]rnldiomedes: for more complicated stuff like setting up and identifing your second screen? yeah07:40
DaSkreechapparle: yes07:40
DaSkreechapparle: If you want to play things other than .rmvb and rm you can use the helix player07:41
apparleDaSkreech: Kaffiene plays everything else. Do you know how to get xine engine to play real player files07:42
Jucatoapparle: do you have w32codecs installed?07:43
DaSkreechapparle: It depends on the file. Some can only be played by the realplayer program07:43
apparleJucato: I have a 64bit system07:43
needles_apparle : you could convert the files07:44
needles_to something else07:44
apparleCan't I just play them. is there a real player version for amd6407:45
DaSkreechw64codecs ?07:46
sabgentonhas any had this problem in konqueror07:50
sabgentonthe find text function "/"  doesnt' work07:51
sabgentonyou see the words startin -- find text as u type07:51
sabgentonbut typeing doesn't doo anything07:51
apparleDaSkreech: there are 2 w64 packages which one should i download07:52
needles_my kubuntu upgrade to gutsy seems to be stuck on configuring cfs07:52
sabgentonsorry it does do something,  the konquer keybord shortcuts start working but thats it07:53
* ubunturos plans to attend the kubuntu session07:54
espereguanyone knows how to remove the version upgrade in adept? It prevents me from installing the updates.07:55
apparlehttp://www.real.com/linux/ This site gives a.bin file. What to do with it07:55
bazhangsabgenton: I believe what you want can be found in Strigi, the new desktop search tool07:57
needles_esperegu : untick pre-releases in the repositories07:58
MilesGstallman loves nano08:00
sabgentonbazhang: i just wanted to know if anyone knows the bug im taliking about08:01
sabgentontype /08:01
sabgentonan the type your search08:01
sabgentonthats the way it should work08:01
sabgentonbut sometimes i type /08:01
sabgentonand i can't type my search08:02
sabgentonthe letters don't come up08:02
sabgentonthis is in konqueror08:02
bazhangsabgenton: not sure how to help; Strigi handles that fine here.08:02
Xacarithany one know how to get sound working in kde?08:02
sabgentoni will investigate Strigi thanks08:03
diomedesok adept keeps trying to upgrade to 7.10 when thats whats installed08:03
sabgentonheard of it08:03
sub[t]rnldiomedes: its a known bug08:04
diomedesi normally run centos, but kubuntu has way better support for my laptop08:06
diomedesmy os of choice though is solaris08:06
XacarithAny one?  Have no sound on kde?08:07
sub[t]rnlXacarith: hrm, do lspci |grep Audio08:07
sub[t]rnlsee if it recognized your sound card08:07
XacarithThey're both listed08:07
sub[t]rnlrun alsamixer08:07
sub[t]rnlmight have something muted?08:07
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:07
sub[t]rnlarts too08:07
XacarithSound system is enabled.  Where is alsamixer though?08:08
RealMurphyXacarith: on the command line08:08
RealMurphyXacarith: Just start a terminal (Konsole) and run alsamixer there08:09
RealMurphyXacarith: Otherwise kmix might also be of help (under multimedia if installed)08:10
XacarithRealMurphy It's not installed, yet08:11
TheDudeso why does kubuntu-restricted-extras throw errors when you attempt to install it?08:12
sub[t]rnlTheDude: what errors are you getting?08:13
capcomafter gutsy upgrade on one of my machines the gtk styles settings in kcontrol are gone. is somebody dealing with this, too?08:14
needles_my gutsy upgrade is stuck on configuring cfs08:14
needles_its been on "configuring cfs" for like 20 minutes08:14
needles_anyone heard of anything like that?08:14
capcomneedles_: are you using the graphical updater?08:15
needles_the adept08:15
TheDudeThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.08:15
capcomthis didn't work here as well. i had to abort, reboot (because of the lock on the apt-database) and run apt-get upgrade install by hand08:16
espereguanyone knows how to set the preferred xrandr metamode??08:16
capcomther were some dialogues to answer, i guess the graphical tool wasn't able to handle this08:16
capcombut how do i get the treeview node for gtk styles in kcontrol back...08:18
phirasWhat is the best DVD player for Kubuntu ?08:18
capcommy firefox looks that ugly since the upgrade..08:18
needles_capcom : so youre saying i should cancel the upgrade and reboot?08:19
Jucatocapcom: instatll gtk2-engines-gtk-qt08:19
needles_capcom : and then do it from the terminal?08:19
phirasWhat is the best DVD player for Kubuntu ?08:19
needles_with "sudo apt-get upgrade install"?08:19
monkey__http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5177/dragonts9.png   anyone know where i can find this image?08:19
Xacarithok, so seems I have sound blaster working but nothing sending sound to it...  Erm  How can I change what sound card the system is trying to use?08:20
Jucatomonkey__: the wallpaper?08:20
monkey__Jucato: yes08:20
capcomneedles_: i did that, but here this happened quite at the beginning after the downloads were finished. if you are somewhere in the middle i can't guarantee that a reboot will work08:20
Jucatomonkey__: it's pre-installed in all KDE distros. right-click on the destop-> Configure Desktop -> Background, the name is Konqui08:21
capcomi waited 2 hours but nothing went forward at 0% of the upgrade as i rebooted08:21
needles_capcom : im at 60%08:22
monkey__Jucato: you sure? is it in kubuntu 7.10? last time i checked, it's not in kubuntu (older version).08:22
Jucatomonkey__: it should be.08:22
needles_Jucato : what would you recommend I do?08:22
capcomneedles_: might work, might not.. it's risky08:22
Jucatomonkey__: are you sure you're looking in the right place? there's a drop down list beside ( ) Picture: in the Background options08:23
needles_Jucato : my gutsy upgrade is stuck at 60 percent, on "configuring cfs"08:23
Jucatoneedles_: um.. not really sure08:23
phirasHow can I upgrade kaffeine to let it run DVDs ?08:23
Jucato!dvd | phiras08:23
ubotuphiras: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs08:23
RealMurphyXacarith: Then I guess you should just install it :)08:24
needles_capcom, Jucato : whats the worst that could happen if i rebooted and then tried to upgrade again08:25
* Xacarith heads to bed for now08:25
needles_i just followed the instructions on the website08:25
Jucatoneedles_: unbootable system08:25
needles_its sort of lame that this is happening08:25
PsySinesometimes, every time I enter a new folder in konqueror, konqueror hangs up for about 24 seconds. any ideas? it's been this way since many kubuntu releases back08:25
needles_Jucato : well ive got to do something, ill be off to bed soon08:26
PsySineis also hangs for only a few seconds when I do other things08:26
guuuuhplease, can anyone help me connecting two pcs by crossover cable, so i can test squid? im using a crossover cable, one side is: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... the other: 3, 6, 1, 4, 5, 2, 7... i configured the ips on the same network, set the gateway on the "client" but i cant ping them... the interfaces are working nice... any idea?08:27
bazhangPsySine: this is on Gutsy? Have you tried Dolphin?08:27
PsySinebazhang: i uninstalled dolphin but I can try and see if it's different08:28
aftertafanyone know why DMA cant be activated on IDE system in gutsy?08:29
PsySinebazhang: dolphin has the same problem08:29
mads2anyone familiar with cdrecorder in console?08:29
bazhangPsySine: might it be GPU related?08:30
mads2i need the command to burn an .iso to cdr in console.08:30
PsySinebazhang: no idea...08:30
dennisterJucato: do u use cdrecord in console?08:31
mads2or some other app that burns cds08:31
mads2its all good08:31
Jucatodennister: nope08:31
dennisterdoes anyone?08:31
mads2i can apt-get install whatever.08:31
needles_does anyone have any suggestions on my frozen gutsy upgrade?08:31
bazhangmads2: try K3b08:31
needles_stuck at 60% install08:31
dennisternot quite mads...you couldn't get kubuntu-desktop to install08:32
mads2true that.08:32
mads2because of the corrupt livecd.08:32
runleveltenk3b ftw, definitely.08:32
mads2whats the command then?08:32
mads2to burn a cd in console?08:32
mads2when using k3b08:32
aftertafneedles_: download a new livecd and boot to it, chroot to your broken systeml and continue the upgrade...?08:33
runleveltenyou don't use k3b in a konsole, although you could use kdcop to see how to drive it from a script, like any kde app.08:33
mads2i dont have xorg08:33
bazhangPsySine: the only oddity I have had with Konqueror/Dolphin is if the file name begins with a not alphabet character, such as { or the like. Sorry couldn't be of more assistance.08:33
mads2a working xorg08:33
sub[t]rnlmads2: whatcha trying to burn?08:33
mads2a working kubuntu cd08:33
mads2the one i burned in windows08:33
mads2didnt work08:33
sub[t]rnlah, so just ah .iso?08:34
needles_aftertaf : that sounds terrible08:34
mads2i noticed that AFTER i had the shit installed08:34
needles_i knew that upgrading was a bad idea08:34
mads2partitions fixed to reiserfs etc.08:34
mads2sub[t]rnl: yes.08:34
aftertafneedles_: lol.....  its not that bad.08:34
runleveltenoh in that case, look at cdrecord08:35
mads2an .iso to get a fully working ubuntu.08:35
mads2i did08:35
mads2whats the command?08:35
bazhangneedles_: did you back up your important docs beforehand?08:35
dennistermads2: sub[t]rnl is very good at helping08:35
runleveltenthe command is man cdrecord08:35
mads2no it isnt.08:35
sub[t]rnlmads2: try makedvd -burn blah.iso08:35
mads2man cdrecord is for people who have hours upon hours08:35
needles_bazhang : nay, i did not08:35
needles_but presumably ill still be able to get to them from another partition install08:36
runleveltenErm... no.08:36
dennisterbesides, mads2's man command isn't working either08:36
mads2no such thing as makedvd08:36
runleveltenYou have time to glance at a man page if you have time to seek support in irc.08:36
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get install makedvd08:36
mads2this OS is -fucked-.08:36
runleveltenthe first takes less time.08:36
mads2i did08:36
mads2that didnt work.08:36
bazhangneedles_: if you had a separate home directory, or a shared directory with Windows, then a fresh install won't be so bad.08:36
mads2there was no makedvd available.08:36
dennisterrunlevelten: u don't understand08:36
sub[t]rnlhrm, makedvd was probably part of a package suit08:37
sub[t]rnllet me dig it up08:37
mads2but i dont have DVDs08:37
mads2only CDRs08:37
aftertafits not a dvd you have, the ISO ?08:37
dennisterrunlevelten: mads2 tried man cdrecord and man isn't even installed yet08:37
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get install dvd+rw-tools08:37
mads2i dont think so, no08:37
mads2its a normal 7.10-desktop-i386.iso08:37
sub[t]rnlmads2: install that package08:37
runleveltenmads2: you have any live cds?08:38
aftertafcdw..... but not installed by default.08:38
aftertafmads2: how did you originally install kubuntu?08:38
runleveltenoh damn, eth working day starts.08:39
dennisterrunlevelten: he has one, but it's corrupt, which is why he's trying to record another one from cli08:39
mads2sub[t]rnl: done.08:39
mads2still now 'makedvd' command.08:39
sub[t]rnlno worries08:39
sub[t]rnldo you know the location of your burning in /dev/?08:39
sub[t]rnlif not, check your /etc/fstab to see the device08:40
sub[t]rnlok, good08:40
sub[t]rnlcdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom driveropts=burnfree -v -data cd_image.iso08:40
mads2must be /dev/cdrom08:40
mads2or /dev/cdr08:40
sub[t]rnlok, replace what yours is with the above command08:40
mads2erm, /dev/cdrw08:40
dennisteraftertaf: while mads2 is following sub[t]rnl's instructions...he installed kubuntu from a livecd, but the iso file on it was corrupt, so he doesn't even have xorg server08:40
capcomJucato: the gtk2-hint worked fine. thank you08:40
needles_dennister : how do you do your upgrade to gutsy? through the graphical, or in the console with apt-get upgrade install08:41
DelphinusI need a Java runtime environment... would you install java-gcj-compact? or sun-java6-jre?08:41
mads2looks like it works, sub[t]rnl08:42
mads2its burning08:42
dennisterneedles_: i saw you were stuck at 60%...was that in the fetch stage, or install stage08:42
sub[t]rnlmads2: :P08:42
dennistermads2: see? i told u sub[t]rnl would take care of u :)08:42
* sub[t]rnl purrs08:42
mads2ta, sub[t]rnl .08:42
mads2appreciated indeed.08:42
mads2lets hope * works this time.08:42
dennistersub[t]rnl was helping me big time last night...much mroe experienced than i at helping folks08:43
dennisterneedles_: i finally got my gutsy upgrade through a mixture of graphical and console08:43
sub[t]rnldennister: you help out a lot here too08:43
needles_dennister : the install stage08:44
aftertafncie one ...... :)08:44
dennistersub[t]rnl: i'm trying now to help, but i haven't been in the channel for awhile...although jucato knows me...i'm usually *getting* help instead of giving08:44
dennisterneedles_: do you remember where it stopped?08:45
* Jucato looks around.... false alarm...08:45
sub[t]rnlJucato: hehe08:45
dennisterwhich file? probably not debconf08:45
needles_dennister : its still going, its stuck on "configuring cfs"08:45
bazhangDelphinus: the jre; the gcj has some known bugs associated with it, that are not only affecting Ubuntu, but Suse and others as well.08:45
sub[t]rnli'm guessing when you say Jucato a notifier pops up eh?08:45
JucatoDelphinus: sun -jre08:45
JucatoKonvi just beeps08:45
Delphinusbazhang: Jucato, thanks for that info, thought i'd check first :)08:45
sub[t]rnli should really give a graphical chat client a try08:46
dennisterneedles_: so the installation of all the files hasn't aborted?08:46
Jucatosub[t]rnl: irssi?08:46
sub[t]rnli just can't leave my roots with bitchx08:46
Jucatobitchx should have a beeping feature too. just look around08:46
aftertafsub[t]rnl: you're a console junkie, you cant do anything about it :)08:46
* sub[t]rnl grabs his walker08:46
needles_dennister : no, i havent closed it yet08:47
needles_its just sitting there, stuck, telling me endlessly that i have 16 minutes until it finishes08:47
dennisterneedles_: have you tried doing the alt-tab through a few cycles to see if there's an error message or blue screen with questions you need to answer?08:48
Jucatoneedles_: if you do close it and try to continue from the command line, try to use "sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade --install-recommends"08:48
aftertafneedles_: dont you have enough bandwidth for an install via internet?08:48
Jucato(just in case)08:48
Jucatoaftertaf: I think it's done downloading the packages and stuck at installing08:48
aftertafwhats cfs anyway.....?08:49
espereguAnyone knows why XRANDR might be 'not selecting the default resolution'? If I run xrandr -s 0 it selects the one I need.. I thought that should happen automaticly.08:49
capcomas it seems, with gutsy it's not necessary to type in the "root pass" every time you start a kdesu-app?08:49
dennisterneedles_: if it's been stuck there forever, you might have to do the ctrl+c to close it, then use jucato's suggestion08:49
aftertafcapcom: it remembers you for a few minutes...08:50
dennistermads2: how r u faring? is the iso almost burnt yet?08:50
Hamracapcom: it does that with feisty too, just for a few minutes08:50
JucatoHamra: not kdesu in feisty08:50
Jucatoit's a new feature in Gutsy, brought through kdesudo08:50
needles_aftertaf : yeah, i have a 7mps connection08:50
stupidgirlblerk default dophin = gheyness08:51
* Jucato pokes needles_'s adept w/ needles08:51
aftertafi added myself to sudo group and had no pw woes...... but that has changed since :(08:51
Jucato!d3lphin | stupidgirl08:51
ubotustupidgirl: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.08:51
dennisterlol @ jucato08:51
stupidgirlyah fo rly Jucato08:51
Jucatoexcuse me?08:52
stupidgirlyou're excused08:52
* aftertaf breaks a rib08:52
Jucatobehave stupidgirl08:52
needles_ok, im going to stop it08:52
stupidgirlI always do08:52
needles_and use your suggestion jucato08:52
sub[t]rnlmee yow08:52
bazhanggood luck needles_08:52
needles_bazhang : thanks08:53
aftertafsub[t]rnl: back from wanderings?   you spent 40 posts in the wilderness :)08:53
dennistermads2: done burning?08:53
sub[t]rnlaftertaf: the trees were calling08:53
capcomaftertaf, Hamra: thanx. i realized this formerly only in console when using sudo08:53
Jucatocapcom: that's why kdesu was "upgraded" to kdesudo so that it will behave the same way08:54
dennister* is stepping away for a cancer stick...bb in 7 min08:54
sub[t]rnlmmn same08:54
aftertafdennister: boooohhh!08:54
* aftertaf too :)08:54
capcommight this generally be a security problem, when a "bad" application tries to start with root privileges short after someone started a kdesudo-app?08:55
stupidgirl83 days since i lst smoked a cancer stick w00t fer me08:55
aftertafw00t 4 U indeed08:55
Jucatocapcom: sudo isnt a security problem right? so it's the same with kdesudo08:56
stupidgirldoes anyoneknow why, when starting compiz in ubuntu 7.10 with kde, i get a black screen for a few seconds, and if there is a way 2 stop it08:56
capcomJucato: ok. was just wondering.. the world is bad ;)08:57
sub[t]rnlyeah i think you can start compiz before it tryis to load the default kdewm stupid girl08:57
sub[t]rnltry sticking -> export KDEWM=compiz in your .bashrc08:57
stupidgirlook thnx sub[t]rnl08:58
chakie_workhm, this newer kde has lost mouse gestures for konqueror08:58
Jucatochakie_work: check System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actons ?08:58
chakie_workJucato: yeah, i already found that08:59
aftertafsub[t]rnl: hmm ill try that too.08:59
aftertafif xrashage, rebootage...08:59
chakie_workJucato: but that is one of the things that's a major thing to get to work, the ui is weird08:59
Jucatochakie_work: you don't have to create new gestures if you want. there are already built-in gestures09:00
chakie_workhm, i have no idea what i'm supposed to do in that view09:00
chakie_workJucato: yes, and i've used those for years. now i can't find "them" anymore09:00
Jucatoyou mean Input Actions is empty?09:00
Jucatook now that's a bug...09:01
chakie_workthe listbox? yes, it is09:01
needles_ok, i closed the installer09:01
aftertafhmm, even better...09:01
Jucatohm... someone had the same problem before.. forgot how he resolved it09:01
needles_but in console, its telling me theres a dpkg lock09:01
aftertafi drop back to kde & kwm... :)09:01
Jucatoneedles_: sudo dpkg --configure -a09:01
Jucatokwin you mean :)09:01
chakie_workJucato: well, i really only need the back, next and close tag gestures09:01
aftertafyeah... :)09:01
dennisteroh great...the dpkg locks! :(09:01
bazhangchakie_work: input actions has some pre-defined gestures here.09:02
chakie_workJucato: but that ui is a royal mess...09:02
aftertaflooooool dennister :)09:02
needles_"status database area is locked by another process"09:02
Jucatochakie_work: the PrintScreen is also based on Input Asctions...09:02
Jucatoneedles_: sudo dpkg --configure -a09:02
dennisterthey were giving me a real problem last night too, during my upgrade09:02
needles_Jucato : thats what it tells me when i put that in09:02
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »09:03
Jucatoneedles_: those two commands ^^^09:03
sub[t]rnlrm the lock09:03
needles_Jucato : alright09:03
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:03
aftertaftime to recheck everything for compiz, i think...09:04
dennisteri wonder where mads2 went to...09:04
needles_ok, what do i do now?09:04
Jucatoneedles_: sudo dpkg --configure -a09:06
dennisterneedles_: now: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:06
needles_had no effect09:06
chakie_workJucato: well, this view is incredible. i'm definitely no noob, but i have no clue at all as to how to setup konqueror gestures09:06
Jucatoneedles_: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade --install-recommends09:06
needles_Jucato : thers still a lock on it09:06
Jucatochakie_work: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086781.009:07
ke-Anyone here playing Eve Online on kubuntu?09:07
needles_sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg09:07
Jucatoneedles_: er.. "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" first09:07
Jucatoneedles_: then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"09:07
dennisteronly once that lock is removed can you start the installation process up again with my command string09:09
roguejedixHere's an interesting development: adept wants me to upgrade to gutsy. Which is what I'm using right now.09:09
needles_dennister : yeah, i know09:09
needles_the commands dont seem to be having any effect09:09
dennisteri wish i could remember how i finally dealt with my lock09:09
chakie_workJucato: thanks! no wonder i couldn't figure it out, even the author seems to have problems with it09:10
dennisterroguejedix: that's a known bug...i just ignore it for now09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpkglock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:10
roguejedixdennister: So it's safe to assume it's going away after a certain update?09:11
chakie_workJucato: of course, those instructions are outdated09:11
dennisterroguejedix: yes09:11
chakie_workJucato: i'll just use firefox, it has nice gestures as plugins09:11
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »09:11
roguejedixdennister: I see. Thanks for clearing that up09:11
Jucatochakie_work: you consider a 1 month-old post as outdated?09:11
needles_Jucato, dennister : what process is dont it?09:11
needles_i could kill it, but i dont know what it is09:11
needles_and when i press ctrl + esc i see messed up data09:12
dennisterwhat about whiptail?09:12
needles_being the semi state of upgrade that my system is in09:12
dennistersub[t]rnl: were u helping me kill the whiptail process last night?09:12
chakie_workJucato: i was wrong, i looked for the needed button in the totally wrong place09:12
sub[t]rnlhrm, yeah i think so09:12
sub[t]rnlrun top in a cli, locate the pid, then kill -5 it09:12
dennistersub[t]rnl: needles_ may be affected by it now09:13
sub[t]rnlor do ps aux |grep whiptail09:13
aftertafoh well, no compiz for me....09:13
sub[t]rnlneedles_: follow those steps09:13
* Jucato goes back to work...09:13
chakie_workoh man...09:13
chakie_workwho really thought that anyone could use this dialog?09:14
sub[t]rnldennister did09:14
bazhangcompiz is seriously over-rated; waiting for KDE4 w/ OpenGL :}09:14
Jucatochakie_work: the real solution to your problem would be to find out why Input Actions is empty and how to bring back the contents. unfortunately I don't know how09:14
sub[t]rnlyeah, kde4 using kwin for its cube compositing is going to be nice09:14
sub[t]rnldennister: nm :P09:15
chakie_workJucato: yeah, it's happened on all my upgraded machines (three)09:15
Jucatochakie_work: but just to test, close System Settings, run "kbuildsycoca" (ignore any error message you see) and try looking into Input Actions again09:15
aftertafsomeone should to a faq for these fixes......09:15
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needles_how else could i kill the lock?09:16
sub[t]rnlneedles_: rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a09:16
chakie_workJucato: no difference09:16
Jucatochakie_work: hm.. something really wrong. no idea sorry09:16
Jucatosub[t]rnl: you missed one sudo :)09:17
* sub[t]rnl nuzzles his wine glass09:17
chakie_workJucato: thanks for the help. i'll see if i can somehow hack up something. but i fear it's easier to code up a new solution than use that abomination of  adialog09:17
dennisterneedles_: did u try the top? or type "ps aux |grep whiptail" look for whiptail?09:17
needles_i just did "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a"09:18
dennisterif you see any mention of 'whiptail' that's what you may have to kill09:18
needles_like sub[t]rnl said, and it had an effect09:18
needles_stuff is being "set up"09:18
needles_what did that command do? "rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a"?09:18
dennisterneedles_: if things are being "set-up" that means your upgrade is going again09:19
matthias_hi, after installing kubuntu 7.10 from CD Adapt says there would be a distribution ubgrade, which then fails because the repositories are already gutsy. How do I get rid of the upgrade notice?09:19
sub[t]rnlyeah needles, you need to check for whiptail like dennister said though09:19
Jucatomatthias_: known bug. will be fixed. ignore first09:19
sub[t]rnlif its hanging around its gonna chew up a lot of cpu09:19
needles_"1000      5641  0.0  0.0   5116   816 pts/4    S+   03:19   0:00 grep whiptail"09:20
needles_i dont know what that means09:20
sub[t]rnlk, your good09:20
Jucatoneedles_: that wasn't for you :P09:20
needles_oh, ha09:20
Jucatoit was between sub[t]rnl and dennister09:20
Jucatotheir own secret love affair09:21
* Jucato goes back to being busy09:21
dennistersub[t]rnl: but the whole object of checking for whiptail was to remove the lock, and it seems the lock is gone if his upgrade has re-commenced09:21
needles_what do i do once this is finished?09:21
sub[t]rnldennister: whiptail isn't part of the actual lock09:21
dennisterif "stuff is being "set up" " like needles_ said09:21
sub[t]rnlits just left overs09:21
needles_oh my, its back to setting up cfs, but this time in console09:21
sub[t]rnlwhiptail is just kinda like ncurses, used to draw up dialog boxes in a terminal09:21
dennisterlet's see if it hangs in terminal, or continues like it should09:22
needles_i dont even know why its installed09:22
needles_its a stenography program09:22
needles_and it is hanging yet again09:22
sub[t]rnlyou'll see a hot cpu from people not killing whiptail after ctrl +c'ing or disrupting a dpkg or update09:22
needles_im going to cancel, uninstall cfs09:22
needles_then redo09:22
dennistercancel, uninstall cfs, then look for whiptail, kill it09:23
bazhangjust checking out top; what is 'zombie'?09:23
Jucatoa process that can't be killed...09:23
* Jucato whistles innocently09:23
sub[t]rnlok, that one got me09:23
dennisteryes, very funny :)09:24
Jucatono seriously09:24
bazhangbad to have one?09:24
dennisterpoor needles_...and poor mads209:24
JucatoZombie process, an inactive (but unkillable, hence "undead") computer process09:24
dennisterno one should have to go through this kind of pain09:24
sub[t]rnlphew, i thought that was just you punning us all Jucato09:25
JucatoI was... and being serious... who says I can't do both? :P09:25
guuuuhcan anyone help me with a simple question about iptables?09:25
needles_ok, so heres the condition now09:26
sub[t]rnl!ask | guuuh09:26
ubotuguuuh: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:26
dennistermads2: u alive?09:26
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).09:26
needles_the package "cfs" is making my upgrade install freeze09:26
needles_i just sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock09:26
bazhangthanks Jucato! thought it might be a storm botnet or some such. phew!09:26
needles_and now its telling me to run dpkg --configure -a09:26
needles_but that will cause it to stall once more09:26
needles_so i need to find a way to get cfs removed09:27
needles_i just installed it today too, i have no idea why09:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:27
bazhangwould cfs be the completely fair scheduler?09:27
Jucato!info cfs09:28
ubotucfs: Cryptographic Filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-18 (gutsy), package size 184 kB, installed size 564 kB09:28
needles_no, its a cryptographic filesystem09:28
dennisterguys, should he do the dpkg --configure -a first, or first do apt-get remove --purge cfs?09:28
bazhangok. thanks!09:28
needles_sudo apt-get remove --purge cfs09:28
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sub[t]rnli.. guess.. not sure how cfs is keeping him from unlocking dpkg though09:29
sub[t]rnlbut i've seen stranger things09:29
needles_because when i put in --configure -a it just goes through the whole of it, back to cfs and then hangs09:29
needles_its like a never ending circle09:29
sub[t]rnlk, kill its process? or just purge it like dennister said09:30
needles_i cant uninstall cfs until i run --configure, but i can run configure through unless i get cfs removed09:30
needles_cfs isnt running09:30
dennisterlet's purge it first then, followed by the dpkg --configure -a09:30
sub[t]rnlwell, he wont be able to purge it with apt09:31
sub[t]rnllocked and all09:31
needles_apt isnt locked anymore09:31
sub[t]rnlah, righto09:31
dennistersee if this order works...if not, no harm trying09:31
sub[t]rnlaint linux fun?09:31
needles_but it now wants to be --configured09:31
needles_sub[t]rnl : heh09:31
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dennisteri should shut up...09:32
dennistercontrast83: u alive? i believe you were helping me last night with the dist upgrade?09:32
needles_ok, i just ran dpkg --configure -a again09:32
needles_and its hanging again on cfs09:32
needles_!info ldconfig09:33
ubotuPackage ldconfig does not exist in gutsy09:33
dennisterneedles_: did you ever try the dpkg remove --purge cfs?09:34
needles_dennister : yeah09:34
sub[t]rnlwhat happened?09:34
needles_it says i need an action input09:35
needles_wait, no i didnt before09:35
needles_i just did it and it tells me that09:35
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get --purge remove cfs09:35
sub[t]rnlthen sudo dpkg --configure -a09:35
dennisteroops, i forgot...mixed up apt-get line with dpkg line09:35
needles_E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.09:35
needles_i cant uninstall it09:36
needles_because it wants me to do that09:36
dennisterit's all the fault of those locks with the 'dpkg line'09:36
needles_but i can do that, because itll just stall at "setting up cfs" and lock dpkg again09:36
sub[t]rnlwell this sucks needles_09:37
needles_sub[t]rnl : indeed it does09:37
needles_there must be a way around it though09:38
sub[t]rnlthere always is09:38
Hamrawhat is the name of the package that have M$ fonts?09:38
dennisteris the adept notifier icon in your docker?09:38
needles_i dont know what it could be09:38
needles_there was, but it just crashed09:38
sub[t]rnlneedles_: hrm, i guess i could try to replicate your situation with my box09:39
dennisterlet's try opening it again needles_ perhaps we can purge cfs from it09:39
sub[t]rnlneedles_: what did you do, just install cfs, then break adept right?09:39
needles_cfs is where my gutsy install was hanging also09:40
sub[t]rnlew, the cfs install?09:40
sub[t]rnlor download09:40
caris_mereI've upgraded to Gutsy...to do this one had to mark "pre-releases" in the repositories...should I now unmark that?09:40
needles_adept isnt working, but i dont know if thats why it isnt working09:40
sub[t]rnlcaris_mere: yup, unless you want the bleeding edge09:40
needles_sub[t]rnl : the install09:41
dennisterneedles_: k, if i'm confused, perhaps ur confusing sub[t]rnl as well09:41
needles_lets review then09:42
sub[t]rnli need a cig, ill catch up in a bit09:42
dennisterisn't this what u did/mean: i installed cfs earlier today, then tried the gutsy upgrade, and the upgrade is stalling/hanging on the cfs?09:42
needles_i was going along my gutsy install perfectly fine, then during the installation it got up to 60%, then stopped on "setting up cfs"09:42
needles_dennister : yeah09:43
dennisterok, that's what i understood...when sub[t]rnl gets back from his cig break, we'll explain it the way i did...09:43
dennisterin the meantime, let's see if you can open synaptic09:44
needles_i dont have it installed09:44
dennisterget it...lots of pps swear it's more stable than adept09:44
needles_dennister : yeah09:44
needles_but i cant do that because apt is messed up09:45
dennistersub[t]rnl: let me clarify needles_ history09:45
contrast83dennister: Sorry, NetworkManager gave out on me. Did you make any progress with the upgrade?09:45
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dennisterhe installed cfs earlier today...then he started the gutsy upgrade, and now it keeps hanging on the installation of the upgrade to cfs09:46
sub[t]rnllets see09:46
dennisterit's the gutsy upgrade that's begiing buggered up by the cfs upgrade, so we need to get rid of cfs somehow09:46
sub[t]rnlhe needs to -finish- configure cfs then09:46
dennistercontrast83: u know it?09:46
sub[t]rnldpkg-reconfigure cfs09:47
contrast83I'm unfamiliar.09:47
sub[t]rnlneedles try that09:47
* mads2 enjoys a fully working ubuntu.09:47
dennistermads2: wonderful!09:47
sub[t]rnlgrats mads09:47
needles_"/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: cfs is broken or not fully installed"09:47
mads2now, the console is fucked.09:47
dennistercontrast83: i did get my upgrade completely finished, thank you09:48
mads2the font is utterly big09:48
mads2then it goes black.09:48
contrast83Good for you. I would've given up after 12 hours. :-P09:48
mads2console as in alt + f1, f2 and so forth.09:48
dennisterand now needles is having a unique-but-similar upgrade problem09:48
needles_sub[t]rnl : it says "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: cfs is broken or not fully installed"09:48
dennistermads2: what do u mean, font goes black?09:49
sub[t]rnlneedles_: ok, sec09:49
dennisteru mean the whole screen goes black?09:49
bazhangseems to be bug associated with it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cfs/+bug/14655709:49
dennisterand how is console 'fucked'?09:49
bazhangcfs, that is.09:49
stdindennister, mads2: watch the language in here09:50
sub[t]rnlneedles_: sudo apt-get -install --reinstall cfs09:50
dennisterhey, stdin :) another expert for needles_ here09:50
bazhangneedles_: there is a known bug with cfs in post install process.09:50
stdinmaybe when I have coffee...09:50
dennisterheheheh...u just couldn't resist the admonishment, eh?09:51
Hamraisnt there any program to put in the taskbar, similar to the language bar of windows?09:51
needles_bazhang : i believe i have found it in full magnitude09:51
bazhangHamra: for changing input language?09:51
dennistermads2: i've never had that much of a need for alt + f, f2, etc09:52
sub[t]rnlneedles_ : sudo apt-get -f install09:52
sub[t]rnlfor the win09:52
Hamrathnx a lot, i'll check it out09:52
needles_sub[t]rnl : "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."09:52
bazhangbetter than the Windows implementation, imo09:53
sub[t]rnldid you try both the --reinstall?09:53
dennistermads2: but you have a full working xorg? check the internet section in the menu for the program called pidgin09:53
needles_basically, cfs needs to be gotten rid of by somehow getting around the fact that i need to dpkg --configure -a09:53
needles_sub[t]rnl : yeah, same comment09:54
dennisterthe font size is probably because you just don't have nvidia or ati restricted drivers installed yet09:54
needles_ok, is there a way to run dpkg --configure -a but have it skip over cfs?09:54
akrus`Awayhow to set DNS list? :D09:54
needles_as in run through everything, but no including cfs09:54
Lynoureakrus`Away: if you don't use dhcp, it's as simple as editing /etc/resolv.conf09:55
sub[t]rnlwhat happened when you did sudo dpkg-reconfigure cfs09:55
dennisterwell, it's 5 am here, and i have to go to bed09:55
akrus`AwayLynoure: I edited :x09:56
dennisterneedles_: i'm leaving you in the more-capable hands of sub[t]rnl, stdin, jucato...09:56
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needles_sub[t]rnl : it says cfs is broke or not fully installed09:56
akrusthanks :)09:56
Lynoureakrus`Away: what does ":x" mean here?09:56
dennisternight everyone09:56
needles_dennister : thanks for your efforts though, i appreciate it09:56
akrusthat's a smiley :x09:56
sub[t]rnlnight denn09:56
Jucatostdin's here. I need to work :P09:56
Lynoureakrus: yes, but "does not work for me" or "ok, did it" smiley? :)09:56
stdinJucato: let me at least wake up first :p09:57
sub[t]rnlneedles_: wait till stdin gets some coffee09:57
needles_sub[t]rnl : heh, alright09:57
needles_i have to be off to bed as well09:57
needles_its like 4 am09:57
* Jucato shakes stdin vigorously... Wake UP!!!!09:57
akrusLynoure: it works, just i remember 7.04 had problems with it :)09:57
stdinnow I just feel nauseous09:57
akrusLynoure: nvm it's working okay09:57
Lynoureakrus: ok, that's good :)09:58
* Jucato shakes stdin more09:58
* Jucato is off to buy some sanity...09:58
* stdin offers Jucato a discount, and throws in empathy to sweeten the deal09:59
sub[t]rnlbring back extra guys09:59
sub[t]rnlcause we're running short09:59
Lynoureakrus: but if you use dhcp (dynamic ip), the dhcp will override it, so more steps are needed. But you aren't?10:00
akrusStatic here :)10:00
akrusthis knetworkconf is laggy :(10:00
needles_stdin : are you awake yet?10:05
stdinneedles_: sort of10:05
needles_can i let you in on my problem?10:05
stdinas long as you don't expect me to read several hours of back scroll. yes10:06
needles_stdin : certainly10:06
mads2how can i see a list10:07
mads2of packages installed and removed.10:07
mads2in the default desktop version of the add/remove programs10:07
mads2i think i accidentaly removed a program by mistake10:07
mads2now i cant remember what it was called.10:07
needles_ok, i was upgrading from feisty to gutsy, and everything was going smooth untill i got to the installation part, it went all the way to 60%, then froze on "setting up cfs"10:07
uhellfroze up? sounds stable :)10:08
needles_stdin : so through the guidance of sub[t]rnl and a few others, i closed it, and attempted to continue it in console10:08
needles_there was a lock on dpkg, i removed it and attempted to sudo dpkg --configure -a10:09
needles_but that process just led on down the line to another hang up on "cfs" again in the console10:09
stdinneedles_: does it just hang or just fail?10:10
needles_stdin : and i cant remove purge that package, unless i can configure10:10
needles_it just hangs10:10
stdinok, time to "hack" it to let you remove it.10:11
needles_stdin : how would i do that?10:11
needles_is there a way to pdkg --configure -a, and have it skip of cfs in the process10:12
stdinneedles_: try: "echo exit | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/adept-common.p*"10:13
needles_with the atertisk included?10:13
stdinerm, hold on10:14
stdin "echo exit | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/cifs.p*"10:14
stdinnot adept :p10:14
* stdin drinks more coffee10:14
stdincifs is wrong too....10:14
stdinlast time, I promise it's right: "echo exit | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfs.p*"10:15
needles_stdin : ok, it said exit10:15
* Jucato prepares stdin a galon of pure, unadulterated, unsweetened, coffee.... powder10:15
needles_stdin : what did that do?10:16
* stdin eats the powder with a desert spoon10:16
stdinneedles_: something you shouldn't normally do, it made the script that run before and after install/removal do nothing10:16
stdinneedles_: try removing the package now, then you should complete the upgrade. after that I'll see if I can find the real problem with it10:17
needles_stdin : so what would i do now? sudo dpkg --configure -a?10:17
needles_stdin : alright10:17
stdinyou may have to run dpkg before you remove it, but try removing it first10:17
needles_stdin : it wont let me remove it10:18
needles_E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.10:18
stdinyep, run that command first then10:18
needles_same as its told me before10:18
needles_its stalled on "setting up cfs..."10:19
qrawlHow do I get rid of  <mount point>  that I accidentally created in my Home folder10:19
qrawlI want to remove that10:20
qrawlits linked to my other HD10:20
stdinneedles_: did you run the last command I said "echo exit | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfs.p*" ?10:20
needles_stdin : yeah10:20
stdinqrawl: you have to unmount it, then you can remove the directory10:20
stdinneedles_: post /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfs.postinst to pastebin10:21
qrawlstdin: I cant.  I went to the Disks management, and that doesnt exist.  I believe I edited that to point to a diff folder, and it never got rid of the old one10:21
qrawlstdin, at least it's not showing up in the System panel for disks10:22
stdinqrawl: if there's nothing mounted there, then you should be able to delete the directory10:22
qrawlstdin, it doesnt look like a shortcut10:23
needles_stdin : http://pastebin.com/d64a62f2a10:23
qrawlstdin, but I'll log on as root and try deleting it10:23
qrawlI hope it doesnt really delete it10:23
qrawlit wants to delete the real files10:24
muchanicqrawl: jump into konsole and manually umount it10:25
stdinneedles_: ok, press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu kate /var/lib/dpkg/info/cfs.postinst" then put "set -x" under the line with "set -e"10:25
stdinneedles_: then save and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again10:26
qrawlmuchanic, ok, whats the command10:26
muchanicsudo umount /home/user/dir10:27
qrawlits still there10:28
muchanicthe files, or the directory?10:28
qrawlthe directory10:28
qrawland the files inside10:28
qrawlwhich are on the other HD10:28
qrawlok nm.  the folder is just there, but it's empty now, becasue it's unmounted10:29
qrawlI'll delete it in root10:29
needles_stdin : ok, i complied, and there was a bit of output, but it seems to be still stalled on cfs10:29
stdinqrawl: you don't need to be root to delete it10:29
stdinneedles_: post the output to pastebin then10:29
qrawlyes I did10:29
qrawlIt had to be root10:30
qrawlanyway, thanks.  I got rid of it10:30
needles_stdin : http://pastebin.com/d6989c54910:30
needles_is what it shows10:30
MaDiNfO_hi all, does anyone knows if there is any issue on xine lib on 7.10 ? lots of people complaning that there is some interlaction on kaffeine or other xine based players...10:31
stdinneedles_: does "test -d /var/cfs ; echo $?" show "0" ?10:33
SlimG2Is there another KDE-based web-browser other than Konqueror ?10:34
needles_stdin : it doesnt do anything10:34
stdinneedles_: anything? did you put it exactly as shown?10:35
stdindoes it just return you to a prompt?10:35
needles_stdin : no, it doesnt even do that10:36
needles_it just puts a blank line10:36
needles_and leaves it there10:36
stdinneedles_: ok, press Ctrl-C, then do "ls -l /var" and post the output to pastebin10:36
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barbadillo_hi all10:37
barbadillo_my kde does not start anymore after a dist-upgrade10:38
needles_stdin : its just a blank line again, no output10:38
sabgentonanyone know where to find info on the kio cgi slave10:38
needles_stdin : keep in mind im on a 60% upgraded to gutsy system, that was cancelled then10:38
stdinneedles_: that's not good, looks like your filesystem is bad. you should check the filesystem10:39
needles_stdin : yeah, i know10:40
needles_stdin : im thinking about throwing in the towel now10:40
needles_ive been on this for that past few hours, and its almost 5 am, and i ahve school at 1110:40
needles_ill just burn my important files off to a dvd, and then reinstall from a livecd10:41
stdinneedles_: run "sudo shutdown -F -r now" (that will immediately shutdown and restart the system to check it)10:41
needles_stdin : what if it doesnt reboot?10:41
stdinneedles_: can't see why it wouldn't10:41
needles_alright, ill give it a try10:42
stdinit'll take a while to run10:42
barbadillo_upgrading to gutsy broke my kde!!!!10:47
cptnspoonCan anyone help me get my nvidia card working under Gutsy? I've been going round in circles for days trying to get this figured out...10:54
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Alarmcptnspoon, why not installing nvidia from nvidia installer ?10:59
Alarmmuch easier work10:59
vbgunzI heard it was possible to install Firefox and Thunderbird without any gnome dependencies. is this true? how can I find out more?10:59
Alarmall those packages that needed to be downloaded through apt just confuse me...10:59
Alarmcptnspoon, what doesnt work exactly ?11:00
Jucatovbgunz: Firefox doesn't depend on GNOME. it depends on GTK though11:00
Alarmvbgunz,  if u want the feel of kde, install qt-engine11:00
JucatoAlarm: that's already installed by default11:00
Jucatoactually gtk2-engines-gtk-qt11:01
vbgunzJucato: oh had to say to you, thanks for recommending kget. I knew of wget but kget just saved my ass too on a big file... much better than konqueror by itself :)11:01
Alarmehmm, dont know it. i am not using kubuntu :)11:01
vbgunzJucato: thanks!11:01
JucatoAlarm: er.. ok...11:01
Jucato(what are you using then?)11:01
vbgunzAlarm: not really looking for the feel :)11:01
Alarmvbgunz,  as much i did hear u use firefox . why not adding the extension DownThemAll ? no need to load extra apps11:01
AlarmJucato,  debian stable etch for several months now testing11:02
JucatoI see11:02
vbgunzAlarm: sorry, I don't wish to use Firefox as my primary browser. I wish to use it for development purposes only. e.g., it has Firebug :)11:02
Alarmkubuntu indeed has all the latest versions , but not so tested. many times things just crashed . not something that i like11:02
Jucato(technically, when you use a Firefox extension, you are basically loading the equivalent of a small app as well, or at least taking up as much resources)11:02
Alarmi am of the opinion , old ? does it work ? keep it :)11:03
Alarmohh ok then11:03
Jucato(then you should have stuck to stable?)11:03
AlarmJucato,  for sure downthemall doesnt take as much memory as kget11:03
Alarmalthough kget is a good application for sure11:03
Jucatoquite :)11:04
GuHHH ive configured squid, its waiting for requests on my server, but my client cant connect outside my network, it can resolve hostnames, but cant ping... i can only reach my server, not whats behind it... any help?11:04
Jucatoand it doesn't require Konqueror to be running while downloading11:04
Alarmwanted to check out whats on testing . but still i kept my old kernel .11:04
Jucatokernels aren't really much of a problem :)11:04
Alarm2.6.18-5 at the moment11:04
vbgunzAlarm: I don't need konqueror to use kget which is nice too :)11:04
rc-1hi, i bought a dell laptop, and just upgraded it to gutsy, and said it worked but when it reboots x doesnt start11:04
vbgunzrc-1: what do you see?11:05
rc-1vbgunz: crap battery is dead let me get charger11:05
Alarmwell, 2.6.22 is supposed to work better, but this makes my system worse :) it finds some ps/2 interrupts and softirq wakes up taking up my cpu usage. i cant fix it , so i prefered staying back in 2.6.18 till i will figure out how11:05
rc-1pretty much the screen you get when you press controlaltf111:06
vbgunzrc-1: so you see a login screen but nothing like a blinking cursor all by itself?11:06
ubuntuso... I just installed the proprietary ati graphics driver and restarted and now x won't start11:07
ubuntuor kde11:07
ubuntuany ideas?11:07
vbgunzrc-1: I had the same experience but I had a blinking cursor on all terminals and on X screen... horrible experience11:07
rc-1vbgunz: ya11:07
ubuntu(gusty user)11:07
rc-1i think dell locked it so you couldnt change os or something11:07
vbgunzrc-1: ya what? a login box or a blinking cursor?11:07
rc-1just the login thing11:07
rc-1normal command prompt11:08
vbgunzrc-1: try logging in and then try 'startx'11:08
vbgunzsee what happens11:08
ubuntuyea thats what I did11:08
ubuntublack screen11:08
ubuntui'm on the livecd now ><11:08
vbgunzrc-1: what graphics card do you have?11:09
vbgunzthat may have something to do with it11:09
ubuntuati 980011:09
MekzholanI set up my system by installing ubuntu and got the kde packages then, so I've got an kubuntu system. But which gnome-packages do I have to delete now, to have an clean, leight weight kubuntu?11:09
ubuntuis there any way to revert to the normal driver for the purposes of unbreaking my os?11:09
Alarmgdm , gnomebase for sure11:09
JucatoMekzholan: try this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde11:09
ubuntufrome the livecd?11:10
rc-1vbgunz: ah sorry cant find the power cable ill worry about it later11:10
vbgunzubuntu, do you know how to use a terminal based editor like vi, vim or nano?11:10
rc-1the default 1420n one11:10
ubuntuhm never tried nano11:10
Alarmubuntu, its time to :)11:11
vbgunzubuntu: make a copy of this file /etc/X11/corg.conf like this: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup11:11
ubuntuwhat do I need to change?11:11
Alarmubuntu, depends the error xorg shows you11:11
rc-1cp your xorg.conf.backup (or whatever) to xorg.conf11:11
vbgunznot corg.conf ... sorry, xorg.conf11:11
Alarmcheck on /var/log/Xorg.log , or Xorg.0.log the latest one11:11
ubuntuI can probably just mount the disk and look at it in kate11:12
Alarmthere will be shown whats wrong with xorg and kde wont start11:12
Alarmubuntu why to make ur life more difficult ?11:12
Alarmnano /file/you/want/to/open11:12
MekzholanJucato: tnx!11:12
ubuntukk :-)11:12
juliusis 7.10 very buggy for anyone?11:13
juliusive allready had dolphin crash once11:13
juliusand kaffiene cant play videos (ive installed the ubuntu-restricted-extra's e.t.c. as per guides)11:14
dojeroI haven't had Dolphin crash, and all my videos play on Kaffeine...were these things working for you in 7.04?11:14
ubuntudo you know how to get to my linux partition from the livecd?11:15
ubuntuall i can see in terminal is the ramdisk11:15
dojeroubuntu, just look in the storage media in a file manager (konqueror or dolphin)11:15
vbgunzubuntu, reboot into your hard disk11:16
Alarmubuntu thought you got problems loading X , why the need of livecd ?11:16
vbgunzubuntu doing it from live disk aint really going to help you much..11:16
rc-1julius: dolphin doesnt crash, but whenever i close it it gives a "cannot write bookmarks file" error.  a few other small bugs too.  and movies work fine (in kaffiene but i use mplayer)11:17
ubuntuok possibly brb11:17
* vbgunz cannot wait for vlc on qt goodness :)11:17
Alarminstall bitchx11:17
Alarmand join the channel from bitchx to work and be able to get also help from here11:17
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ubuntuaah ok that'll help11:19
dojeroIs there a way to operate another PC over the Internet?  Krdc and Krfb seem only for local networks.11:23
ubuntuhm yes it gets stuck while loading the fglrx driver11:25
ubuntu(II) fglrx(0): POWERplay not supported on this hardware11:25
ubuntumind if i pastebin this?11:26
ubuntu^ log11:27
Alarmpaste also xorg.conf please11:28
Alarmubuntu, have you tried to reconfigure xserver ?11:29
julieplease french site11:30
Jucato!fr | julie11:31
ubotujulie: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:31
ubuntuyea IDK what any of these vars in the config file are11:31
ubuntuxorg.conf needs manual configuration?11:31
Alarmyou could do it also manualy11:31
Jucato!xconfig | ubuntu11:31
ubotuubuntu: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes11:31
Alarmand it will create a new xorg.con , back up your old one first11:32
curi0Alright, I have a USB Hard Drive which I can boot from, however, there are already partitions and data on the drive. Should I use partition magic to resize and create 4 partitions: partition 1 for FAT16 syslinux, ubuntu gutsy.iso, vm file, and init file; partition 2 unallocated for ext3; partition 3 unallocated for swap? Can't forget to mention that I'm dual booting XP and Vista with EASY BCD.11:32
Alarmcuri0, if there are allready partitions why to create new ones ?11:33
WaltzingAlongdojero: krdc and krfb work over the internet too (afterall the internet is just a big network - or network of several networks); may i suggest openvpn, openssh, and freenx or any of the vnc servers/clients11:34
ubuntuty so much!! i'll give it a try, brb11:35
Alarmalthough i see dublicates in ur xorg. dont know if that matters11:36
dojeroWaltzingAlong: if krdc and krfb work on the internet, then why do I need the others you suggest?11:36
Alarmlike Section "device" #11:36
ubuntuit was all automaticly done by the restricted driver manager in 7.1011:36
ubuntuso its kinda creepy that it borked all of a sudden11:37
WaltzingAlongi suppose if you understood that you would already know why you thought krdc did not work over the internet; dojero11:37
freglwhere do I put commands I want run during/after boot?11:37
Alarmubuntu,  keep a backup of xorg.conf , and do an xserver reconfiguration11:37
WaltzingAlongdojero: it is quite likely that between your server/client and the other side client/server there are firewalls and the like, so incoming connections would be blocked by default11:37
Alarmif this wont solve your problem you still recover back your xorg.conf back11:38
curi0Alright, I have a USB Hard Drive which I can boot from, however, there are already partitions and data on the drive. Should I use partition magic to resize and create 4 partitions: partition 1 for FAT16 syslinux, ubuntu gutsy.iso, vm file, and init file; partition 2 unallocated for ext3; partition 3 unallocated for swap? Can't forget to mention that I'm dual booting XP and Vista with EASY BCD.11:38
WaltzingAlongcuri0: thanks for repeating. perhaps read the replies which were already stated?11:38
ubuntu_I'm master of linux yeah !! from Poland !11:38
dojeroWaltzingAlong: Okay.  So if I want to access a computer over the net, then both have to have the vnc software.11:38
curi0I didn't think you all saw my text because I was not registered11:38
WaltzingAlongdojero: one needs the server, the other the client.11:38
curi0Sorry about that!11:39
WaltzingAlongcuri0: not registered means cannot send private messages but can send to the channel11:39
curi0Sitting in the ubuntu channel where nobody answers my question is amazing11:39
jussi01How do you change which device the system outputs sound to? I want the sound to came through my USB headset, not my laptop speakers.11:39
ubuntu_where are logs11:39
dojeroWaltzingAlong: Got it...so the one I'm trying to access is the server (since I'm going to be operating that PC remotely)...right?11:39
ubuntu_where are logs files?11:39
WaltzingAlongcuri0: what do you expect? what you should do? who decides that?11:39
Alarmubuntu, /var/log11:39
curi0Alarm: There are windows partitions11:40
WaltzingAlongdojero: right and on the server side, the firewalls would need to be configured to allow incoming connections to the vnc server port, usually 590011:40
WaltzingAlongcuri0: you can format those partitions as you like11:40
Alarminstalling kubuntu on it, it will ask you to format them to ext3 or whatever you would like them to11:40
curi0I have data on those partitions11:40
dojeroWaltzingAlong: Thank you...I understand (I think).11:40
curi0I'm trying to find out if my procedure is right?11:40
Alarmyou dont need to resize them if the size of them is ok . if i remember well during the installation you can resize them as well11:40
ubuntu_logs with used commends11:41
ubuntu_logs with used commands11:41
WaltzingAlongdojero: and on the local network the firewall would likely not exist and therefore not be blocking incoming traffic11:41
Alarmi dont know how safe it is to change fs on the HD with data on it and without formating it.11:41
jussi01!repeat | ubuntu_:11:41
ubotuubuntu_:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience11:41
curi0Don't you haev to have 3 partitions to install any linux on a dual boot system?11:41
GuHHHive configured squid, its waiting for requests on my server, but my client cant connect outside my network, it can resolve hostnames, but cant ping... i can only reach my server, not whats behind it... any help? even if i disable squid, i cant ping internet, just resolve names (from client)11:41
dojeroWaltzingAlong: Actually, there aren't firewalls on either end...I'm trying to access my mother's computer...she wouldn't have a clue about firewalls.11:41
Alarmubuntu, /home/user/.bash_history11:41
WaltzingAlongAlarm: changing the filesystem would/should format it11:42
curi0For Linux sake yes11:42
WaltzingAlongdojero: but her dsl/cable router/gateway would11:42
curi0and Windows sake11:42
Alarmcuri0,  copy the files on an other storage device , and resize them , format them without any risk if you dont know well what you are doing11:42
dojeroWaltzingAlong: Okay...so the chances are slim I can pull this off, since I'd have to walk her through the process of accessing her cable router and opening the port.11:43
curi0Let me rephrase! I'm going to be booting from my USB hard drive to install ubuntu to local partitions.11:43
curi0Alarm: I know what i'm doing, i'm just trying to figure out if my procedure is correct.11:43
Alarmohh, you got the iso image on the usb storage and u want to do the installation from that iso ?11:43
dojeroWaltzingAlong: But at least I understand and can try to make those changes to her system when I'm there.11:44
ubuntu_THANK YOU11:44
curi0Alarm: Yes, because I'm getting Buffer I/O errors on HDC11:44
WaltzingAlongdojero: right. which was my suggestion about ssh because it may be better to ssh into her computer then from there, once connected to it via ssh, run x11vnc to access her screen then a vnc viewer on the localhost to view that screen on your end. openvpn because you can create a vpn so she need not configure anything nor open any ports and all traffic on the vpn is encrypted11:44
Alarmyou wont be able to do it that way . you got to extract the files and make it bootable. there is also a procedure to do to make the usb boot and run the installer11:45
curi0So, i'm planning on taking the syslinux route and configuring my USB hard drive to boot the ISO directly.11:45
Alarmwould be much easier to burn it on a dvd11:45
curi0Can't if my dvd isn't reading properly11:45
Alarmcuri0,  when i worked a bit with slax and usb flash , it wasnt just to have the iso on the drive, but more than that11:45
curi0That's why I have to take a different step because my DVD seems to be broken11:45
Alarmi see11:45
dojeroWaltzingAlong: I'm slow to understand, but I'm getting better.  Thanks.  So I can just use Putty to get to her PC and then go from there?11:45
Alarmhold on. i have a link dont know how much this will help11:46
curi0I'm just using the USB hard drive as a CDROM that's all11:46
curi0Alarm: I've found many links regarding this matter.11:46
WaltzingAlongdojero: you could. then you need only one part, encrypt all of the traffic (sending of vnc passwords as well) and so on11:46
Alarmok its not a usb flash drive but its still how to boot from a usb and playing with the iso11:46
curi0See the link that you'er posting is total opposite of my actions11:46
curi0Oh alright11:47
curi0You're on the same page now :)11:47
Alarmcuri0, you will defenetely will have to change the mbr of the drive11:47
WaltzingAlongdojero: if you have openvpn running already she could then use krfb to send the invite to you, you could access it over the vpn.11:47
curi0Yes I know that's where my problems will come in11:47
Alarmcuri0, check also that: http://www.slax.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6846&sid=40bde0cfe4142649ac31949b54f2626711:47
curi0Because i'll have to boot Vista and do the command to switch the mbr11:48
curi0and then add linux bootloader to easy bcd11:48
dojeroWaltzingAlong: That may even be better.  Thank you again for this help...I'll probably try tomorrow.11:48
WaltzingAlongdojero: i admin several computers and am presently at least 7 timezones away from most of them. ssh over openvpn is how i get into most11:49
dojeroWaltingAlong: I'm in Italy and she's in US, so we're a couple of time zones apart, anyway.11:49
Alarmcuri0, one more: http://www.linux.com/articles/46267 , just use ext type instead of f16 or f3211:50
curi0Alarm: you know what my issue probably is!11:50
curi0I downloaded the ubuntu iso from torrents11:50
Alarmthat your dvd isnt working11:50
curi0Let me try downloading it directly from ubuntu11:50
Alarmand you cant install ubuntu from a dvd so you want to run the installer from the external hd11:51
curi0and let's see if I get Buffer I/O errors11:51
curi0That's what I wanted to do at first but let me try downloading a copy directly from ubuntu11:51
curi0I should've done that from the beginning, but, now i've learned my lesson!11:51
Alarmbtw, is there a netinstall for kubuntu ?11:52
WaltzingAlongcuri0: torrent can tell you if you have the exact same bit for bit as is in the torrent; have your client check the iso for integrity11:52
Alarmcuri0, check hash11:52
curi0check the hash against the website hash?11:53
Alarmalthough torrents rarely fail. if a package wasnt succesfuly download correctly, it downloads it again11:53
curi0what if the whole iso from the torrent site just happened to be corrupt?11:53
Alarmif you downloaded it from a normal mirror i doubt it11:53
WaltzingAlongcuri0: then everyone else downloading the same torrent would have (had) corrupt iso files11:53
vbgunzI am looking for a dictionary that can merge itself with my context menu. e.g., if I highlight a word in any document, I can right click and get it's definition. does anything like this exists? also, preferably it would be great if it worked offline11:54
skyioncuri0, >> do a md5sum on the file and check the original11:54
curi0I'm on Windows :(11:55
skyionoh :|11:55
Alarmskyion, there are also applications for windows that do that11:55
WaltzingAlongcuri0: md5sum is also a win3211:55
curi0found a utility11:55
skyionkewl ;)11:55
vbgunzcuri0: on Windows, my favorite md5sum checker along with a bunch of others was 'hashtab'11:56
roguejedixMight I reccomend wxChecksums11:56
Alarmsha1sum.exe 20kb big and does its job11:57
Alarmno need for installation or something11:57
curi0Found this need little proggy called md5check11:57
curi0Checking my iso right now11:57
Alarmcuri0, that would do11:57
contrast83Somewhat of an odd question - How clean is Control+Alt+Backspace? i.e., If you have a bunch of programs running and you press that, do those programs cleanly exit or are they forcefully killed?11:58
WaltzingAlongcuri0: you may find it helpful to have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnuWin32 installed on your ms windows "operating system", especially after putzing with a gnu/linux-based distro for any amount of time11:58
curi0My MD5 Hash: f4ed141eebd2b3c11ada9dac1f58c742 against isohunt.com info_hash: e02e5e117a5a9080d552a11fa675de868a05fe7111:58
WaltzingAlongcontrast83: killed i think11:58
roguejedixDon't torrents use md4?11:58
contrast83That's what I was thinking. Thanks.11:59
vbgunzcontrast83: murdered... exit them then do that is possible12:03
Minnozzhow can I set up a network bridge from eth1 to my bluetooth dongle, so I can access the my internet connection with my mobile phone?12:03
vbgunzI think the 'send to system tray option' in the menu editor is broken. I am trying to send kdict to the system tray but it never goes :/12:04
contrast83vbgunz: Cool, thanks. Do you know where I might find some documentation on that? Google's not helping... Sorry, just trying to prove someone wrong. :-)12:06
skiffxguys if IM installing ubuntu onto scsi12 (0,0,0) (sdh) then the bootloader should still go on (hd0) or something else?12:06
Alarmscsi ? they still exist ? :)12:06
USMarinesata2 ftw12:07
skiffxno its all sata12:07
skiffxit sees it as scsi though12:07
vbgunzheh, no, but been told plenty of times by several different users. and you can prove it to yourself with applications that save there state on a clean exit like kchmviewer or kpdf I believe. when you exit them cleanly, they restart where they exited. when you ctrl+alt+backspace, they start from the last clean exit12:07
Alarmmaybe the as sda device12:08
Alarmnot hd12:08
curi0Thank You, everyone for your assistance, i'll try this iso directly from ubuntu and if that doesn't work than i'll boot the iso indirectly from my usb hard drive.12:08
curi0Again, I appreciate all you've guys helped out with!12:08
curi0Thank You12:08
Alarmdo an fdisk -l to check out ur partition12:08
skiffxAlarm, it saw it as sdh12:08
contrast83vbgunz: Cool, that's enough for me. Thanks much. :-)12:08
skiffxso now thebootloader goes12:08
vbgunznp :)12:08
skiffxonto hd0 or hd8?12:09
Alarmon the partition that is bootable12:09
USMarineanyone seen a peeing plane before? http://www.metacafe.com/watch/881033/amazing_scene/12:09
Alarmwheck which one is12:09
Alarmwheck -> check12:09
skiffxsdh is the bootable one with windows12:10
skiffxso what do I specify in (hd*) ?12:10
Alarmshouldnt it have a number, just asking. never saw that sdh12:10
Alarmi am not risking it to tell you bullshit as i am not so familiar with that sdh .12:11
skiffxAlarm, sdh is the bootable drive12:11
Alarmwell still i am wondering why there is no number12:11
skiffxsdh is just sda-h12:11
Alarmthen do install it on sdh12:11
skiffxwell sdh is separated into 3 more partitions12:11
Alarmif -h- stands for a number12:11
Alarmsdh1, sdh2, sdh3 ?12:11
skiffxswap is sdh3 and ext3 / is sdh212:12
skiffxwin is sdh112:12
Alarmthen i am 99% sure that u need to install it on sdh1 , check if there is also a "*" for boot on that sdh112:13
Alarmif you put the grub on a non bootable partition u wont see grub runing12:13
cperrin88Hey, I'm searching for a way to use compiz with my ATI card12:14
skiffxAlarm, ty12:14
WaltzingAlong!compiz | cperrin8812:14
ubotucperrin88: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:14
Alarmreboot and tell me if it was that :P12:15
cperrin88WaltzingAlong: this doesn't work. It says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41813/12:16
Alarmubuntu christian . what distro release is that now ? u log into gnome and see a big cross or what ?12:16
Alarminstead of apt-get install package , jesus please install package12:17
Alarmis there any distro for othomans as well ?12:17
WaltzingAlongfollowed by 'i promise i will never <insert sin> again12:17
Alarmhehehe WaltzingAlong12:17
cperrin88Alarm: there is a Ubuntu Satanic edition repository12:17
Alarmcool, i will try to add it into my christian distro then see what happens12:18
Alarmpackage conflicts ? :)12:18
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arkygeekfyi: if you are running an iMac 24 and get no sound in gutsy, do this:  sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic    then reboot.12:18
cperrin88Alarm: On the webpage they say you should use a fresh isntalled Christian edition to use this repostitories  :D12:18
Alarmyou should use a god blessed partition !12:19
surfaceis there a way to ask knetworkmanager remember the wpa password, instead of keep asking everytime i login?12:20
arkygeeksurface - i was wondering that too...12:21
surfacethe kwallet is kind of useless, maybe i donno how to use it12:21
Delphinussurface: have you tried disabling the walley12:22
Delphinuswallet (12:22
YammehIs there anything to do to try and make kubuntu more stable? If I leave it on more than 24 hours it starts to really slow down when switching applications and when I start typing and stuff12:22
wertydo you know how to configure dc++?12:22
DelphinusYammeh: what does free -m show?12:23
* Alarm is going to check the french fries...12:23
WaltzingAlongYammeh: are you using compiz-fusion? or xserver-xgl?12:23
surfaceDelphinus: disable? no, it prompts me when first login12:23
YammehNot using either WaltzingAlong12:23
Delphinussurface: run kwalletmanager and it should appear in systray beside time12:23
surfacewhy i type my wpa password in, i tot kwallet kind of remember it for me12:23
Delphinusgo into options and disable it12:24
Yammehlol, it's owning my ram, Delphinus12:24
YammehFor no reason... I've only got like 3 applications loaded12:24
DelphinusYammeh: how much ram you have?12:24
_luke_hey guys - I'm looking for a way to take an AVI which was taken off Youtube and make it playable on a stock windows install for a presentation... Currently it plays fine in Linux but under windows it plays audio and no video12:24
WaltzingAlongYammeh: generally you want your ram used as much as possible12:24
_luke_I think it has a custom header which confuses WMP... any idea how to remove it under Linux?12:24
YammehYes, but now to the point where it lags my pc12:24
WaltzingAlong_luke_: use vlc on ms windows? reencode the video with mencoder12:25
DelphinusYammeh: is it used or cached?12:25
WaltzingAlongYammeh: using lots of ram does not lag your pc12:25
Delphinusif its cached thats fine12:25
Delphinushow much swap is used?12:25
WaltzingAlongYammeh: check kinfocenter for a nice picture about it12:25
_luke_WaltzingAlong: Can't change the windows install unfortunately... I tried a few times with mencoder but I can't get a file which will play with video under windows12:25
YammehIt says it's used12:25
WaltzingAlong_luke_: so the answer is to try again until you do. man mencoder. pick the video codec that comes with ms windows12:26
YammehAccording to kinfocenter, 38% is disk cached..12:26
WaltzingAlongthough that really does not seem like an answer12:26
DelphinusYammeh: how much swap is used12:26
WaltzingAlongYammeh: 2GB ram here; presently 50MB free; then 68% disk cache; 3% swap used; so it is not a swap issue in your case12:27
DelphinusYammeh: if you run top, whats the load average?12:27
azuk_luke_, I've converted avi files created with my camera with mplayer's option -ffourcc DX50 in order to make them playable on Windows12:27
WaltzingAlongYammeh: you can also see that with uptime12:28
Yammehwhich is the average? There are 3 numbers12:28
DelphinusYammeh: give us all 312:28
WaltzingAlongthey all are; different times12:28
Yammehload average: 0.13, 0.23, 0.3312:29
YammehIt's not the loading of new applications that's the issue, it's lag in the ones that are loaded12:29
_luke_WaltzingAlong: thanks - messing with different options12:30
_luke_azuk: Thanks - I'll give it a try12:30
WaltzingAlongYammeh: and those numbers are not high by any means12:33
YammehIt's not the loading of applications that's the problem, it's the freezing when I alt tab or try to type12:33
Delphinusnot sure Yammeh, did you upgrade or clean install?12:34
YammehI tried to upgrade and it failed, so I did a clean install12:34
Delphinussorry cant help ya.. past midnight here and i got work tomorow.. good luck!12:35
YammehOk, thanks12:35
smorgAlarm: <- guy with xserver problems12:39
smorgall better, gracias!12:39
Alarmhuh ?12:40
smorgyou told me to reconfigure xorg.conf12:40
smorgseems to have reverted to the default drivers12:40
Amriushi there12:40
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dieter_wieso gibts keine deutsche übersetzung für kdevelop12:50
dieter_und wie bekomm ich die?12:50
_luke_Got it working for anyone interested... had to convert to stock mpg using ffmpeg -i <file> <file>.mpg12:50
flakeFYI      7.10 + qw:et client = coolness, sad thing is i'm running it on older hardware12:50
dieter_oh shit sorry this is the global channel:)12:50
_luke_flake: is the QWET full version out for for Linux yet? Or just the demo?12:51
dieter_how do i get german translations for kdevelop?12:51
_luke_awesome... I purchased the game for windows... might have to look to see whether I can download it12:51
_luke_mind you the demo ran poorly under linux compared to windows :(12:51
flake_luke_ copy over your installed base folder and subdir megatexture folder12:51
flakethen run client and it will install the rest12:52
_luke_flake: thanks - will give it a try later12:52
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ThylioHi,  i am trying to install Madwifi, but i get all sorts of errors. The errors come when i try to "make".12:54
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ThylioCan anyone help me?12:56
martoyaThylio: install make then12:56
flakeThylio, did you do sudo apt instlall build-essential  ?12:56
martoyaThylio: sudo apt-get install make build-essential12:56
Thylioyes, i have done that12:56
stdinThylio: madwifi is in the linux-restricted-modules package12:57
yaccinhiding the scrollbar of the contactlist wasnt a feature added by kubuntu devs, i believe...12:57
Thyliostdin: okay, then ill try to install that12:57
yaccinbut anyways i have that feature back in gentoo :)12:57
Thyliostdin , do i print "sudo apt-get install linux-testricted-modules" in terminal?12:59
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:59
stdintysonsw: restricted not testricted, but yeah12:59
ThylioHehe, okay thx12:59
flakehow do you force a re-make of source13:01
tysonswwhat is the command in the konsole to see if you are on feisty or gutsy?13:01
stdinflake: "make clean" then "make"13:01
stdin!version | tysonsw13:02
ubotutysonsw: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell13:02
Thyliostdin: Do i need to reboot after installing to find madwifi in Kmenu?13:03
stdinThylio: it won't be in the kmenu, but you should reboot to see if it works13:04
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ThylioOkay, how do i see if it works than?    Just put my wifi card in, and somthing pop's up?13:05
stdinThylio: try booting with the card inserted13:05
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs13:06
Thyliostdin:  Will do.  Sould i extrakt my TP-cabel when i boot?13:07
stdinThylio: I don't think it should matter13:08
ThylioThx       brb i guess :)13:10
flakein the makefile, is there an option I can use to strip to reduce the size of a binary, like  -s13:18
tysonswwhat is the konsole command to start a install file??13:20
stdinprobably "make stripinstall" but that depends on the makefile13:21
stdintysonsw: what install file?13:21
atlfalcons866how can i erase free space13:21
rixxonUpdated to 7.10 and graphics are very laggy - both with restricted and open drivers13:23
rixxon01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP]13:23
stdinrixxon: probably because you are using Xgl13:24
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Angelusanybody who had the issue of the monitor turning off instead of splashsreen or getting a blankscreen, the fix is to compile you're own kernel with the vesafb module enabled, somehow the developerss have turned it off by default and left the boott upsplash enabled, which is a stupid thing.13:26
rixxonstdin: (now X randomly died on me) yes, Xgl seems to be running13:27
Aranelhow can I add "sudo swapon /dev/sdb3" to startup ?13:27
WaltzingAlongrixxon: also using compiz-fusion ?13:27
rixxonI don't use compositing though, how do have it run normal X13:27
rixxonWaltzingAlong: kwin13:27
stdinrixxon: try uninstalling it (if you don't use compiz)13:28
sandhyaHi, can I upgrade using the alternate CD without burning it? (Just mounting it)13:28
rixxonwhat's the package?13:28
ThylioAngelus: Yes, when i boot i get a blackscreen, and than after a minutte or two, i come to the login section.13:28
WaltzingAlongsandhya: mount it, as you mentioned, then run the upgrade script from the cd ?13:29
WaltzingAlongsandhya: (the mounted image, i meant013:29
Thyliostdin:  Now i have rebooted, but how do i know if my wifi thing is working, the lights ar not working (but this is a common issue on my card) What program should i use?13:29
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sandhyaWaltzingAlong: Just wondering if that works or if it'll cause issues upon reboot or something..13:30
rixxonstdin: thanks, works fine :)13:30
stdinThylio: probably knetworkmanager, but you should be able to see if it's recognised by doing "iwconfig" in konsole13:31
Rebecca_workwhere do i enable compiz in gutsy?13:31
AngelusThylio: the fix is to compile you're own kernel with the vesafb enabled :)13:31
stdin!compiz | Rebecca_work13:31
ubotuRebecca_work: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:31
* stdin kicks ubotu13:31
AngelusThylio: iv been playing with it for a week, i finaly figured out a fix13:31
rixxonstdin: so I guess that is how slow compiz would be on my laptop btw?13:31
stdinrixxon: or slower13:32
ThylioAngelus: Okay, how do i enable vesafb then?13:32
sandhyaRunning updater now - thanks!13:33
Thyliostdin: the only extention i find is in ath0, is this correct?13:33
stdinThylio: yep, ath0 is atheros, well done :)13:34
ubotuIf you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer13:34
ThylioThx for the help stdin :D13:34
Steveyhi can anyone help me with the config of my network in kubuntu?13:34
stdinThylio: no problem :)13:35
SteveyI'm a complete newbie13:35
Steveystdin can you help me please?13:36
flakewhat type of help do you need Stevey13:37
SteveyI would need some help in configuring my network13:37
SteveyI just installed Kubuntu 7.04 and can't get the network running13:38
flakeyou mean connected to the internet?13:38
flakeor networked pc's13:38
SteveyRight now I'm on another machine... I would like to connect to the network to be able to use the printer and the internet13:38
flakeyou have to be a little more specific with your questions13:38
flakewhat is this network13:40
Steveyok what would you like to know?13:40
Steveyflake do you read?13:42
flakeyes, trying to guess what you have13:42
flakedoes your network have a router with a built-in firewall13:42
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flakelet me nick my registered name and we'll go PM to keep the clutter in here down13:43
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draremStevey are you getting my pm13:45
Steveynope sorry13:46
drarempm me13:46
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ThylioI want to change theme, and when i look at KDE-look.org, there is like 1000 diferent categories with themes. What am i supposed to download?13:49
ubotuTo change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.13:49
Thyliothx again :P13:50
CPrompt^so...how are peoples upgrades going?  I still haven't gotten anything from Adept saying that there's a new version which is a bit strange13:51
CPrompt^kind of a mixed bunch as far as success and errors?13:51
wastedfluidit's a little rough, but it works.13:51
CPrompt^wastedfluid : how did you do the upgrade?13:51
drarembe back, don't know why konversation is left out of basic install13:52
dystopianraykonversation is in kubuntu by default13:52
draremnot in my 7.10 cd13:53
wastedfluidCPrompt^: I did the net upgrade; then wiped out my install for the cd install.13:53
draremclean install, unless there was a prompt and I didn't check it13:53
wastedfluidBut Gutsy was too rough for me, especially for my laptop.  Kmilo was broke, which was depressing.. had to revert to an older kmilo version.13:53
wastedfluidI reverted back to fiesty, and i'm installing 3.5.8 for now.  :-)13:54
wastedfluidI forgot abou those two bugs; kopete, and kmilo.. I guess I get to work on those now :p13:54
jimmydeehi guys, samba question this morning, I got samba all set up, it sees it from my windows box, but wont let me authenticate, help?13:54
Rebecca_workanyone know how i tell adept to fetch through a web proxy. it's falling down and i think that's why. i have configured proxy details in network settings and konq works through it.. but adept is still failing fetching updates13:55
bobbihelp - i'm a novice stuck in mid upgrade from feisty to gutsy- what can i do?13:56
jimmydeehow far along are you bobbi?13:56
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jimmydeeg'day stdin13:57
bobbijimmydee - i'm in the installing upgrades bit13:57
jimmydeeand the problem is?13:57
stdinhmm, lagged out there13:57
bobbijimmydee - it seems to be frozen at 'configuring libselinux1'13:58
Rebecca_workanyone know how to get apt working behind a proxy?13:58
jimmydeehow long has it been stuck bobbi?13:59
bobbijimmydee - at least thirty minutes13:59
jimmydeectrl c try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again?14:00
supermancan anybody help me configure my network so I can connect to the Internet? I have kubuntu 7.0414:00
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bobbijimmydee - i'll give that a try - thanks14:00
jimmydeestdin do you have to change all the feisty's in sources.list to gutsy's to dist upgrade?14:01
stdinjimmydee: no, use adept14:01
draremok where's Stevey14:01
jimmydeeok, supposing one were to be using the terminal?14:01
atlfalcons866how can i wipe free space14:02
stdinjimmydee: then install update-manager-core and do "sudo do-release-upgrade"14:02
jimmydeeahh, learn something new every day14:03
supermanCan anybody help me with my network problem on kubuntu 7.04?14:03
draremis that you Stevey14:03
bobbijimmydee - console errr msg - Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)14:03
jimmydeeis adept still open?14:04
bobbii'll close it but it warns me i might get an unusable system14:04
wankooUptime: 37 minutes14:04
jimmydeebobbi: wouldnt want that, one moment, stdin, what do you think of bobbi's situation?14:05
bobbijimmydee - its done14:05
supermanHi drarem it's me, Stevey!14:05
stdinbobbi, jimmydee: it's safer than just changing sources14:05
draremis your nick registered14:05
supermanno not yet14:06
supermanhow can I register it?14:06
jimmydeetrue enough14:06
draremcan't do pm then..  do you have a laptop and trying to connect to network?14:06
wastedfluidsuperman: see /ns help register14:06
bobbijimmydee - i'm getting same error msg in console14:06
supermanyes I have a working computer in the network... on the one I just set up with linux, I also have win xp running and it has internet and network connectivity14:07
stdinbobbi: about /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?14:07
bobbistdin - ello?14:08
draremwhat type of computer is linux on14:08
stdinbobbi: the message in the console, is it about that lock file again?14:09
supermana pc...14:09
d347hm4ncan i get some help with my wireless connection anyone?14:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:10
bobbistdin - yes same message14:10
supermanwhat do you mean?14:10
stdinbobbi: try "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" to kill any process locking it14:10
dhq_bobbi, well do you have adept or synaptics open14:10
draremyou should try www.google.com, I don't know enough to guess why you can't connect, other than maybe you have a router with mac address filtering?14:10
draremor is it wireless..14:10
supermanI don't know the setup of the network, because its a bigger network here... I used the same settings as in the windows14:10
d347hm4njimmydee: how do i find out what chipset i have on the card?14:11
bobbidhq nope only console and this conversation14:11
jimmydeed347hm4n:brand, make, model?14:11
draremif you don't own the network, chances are they restrict access14:11
dhq_bobbi, did you use sudo before the command14:11
draremand have to add your machine manually14:11
bobbidhq - yup14:11
bobbistdin - process killed - i'll retry14:12
d347hm4njimmydee: well on the box it says it was autodetected in ubuntu, it says it's a safecom swlpr-5400 on the box but in the knetwork manager it says it is a realtech rtl-818514:12
d347hm4njimmydee: you can see why im confused :D14:13
BluesKajHowdy all :)14:13
Mac40DOHi! How can I install these konsole-fonts: console8x16.pcf.gz and 9x15.pcf.gz?14:13
bobbistdin - i still get the same locked file message14:13
jimmydeed347hm4n: I'd say its a safe bet its the realtek, they make chipsets for all kinds of manufacturers14:13
d347hm4njimmydee: so then i take it that the driver is installed correctly14:13
jimmydeed347hm4n:are you getting wireless?14:14
d347hm4njimmydee: but i have a wpa access point and when i try and access it it freezes the pc14:14
bobbistdin: dare i try restarting my pc?14:14
d347hm4njimmydee: i can see the ap if thats what you mean14:14
stdinbobbi: that will probably fix it14:14
FlatsI upgraded my kubunut to 7.1 last week but everyday adept manager says new upgrade available, goes thru all the gyrations then says I am already up to date.  Can I make it stop asking me to upgrade?14:14
jimmydeed347hm4n: ok then I'd say the driver is in right14:15
bobbistdin: i'll try that - i have access to another pc if it won't reboot14:15
dhq_Flats, thats a bug in adept14:15
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Flatsahhh OK14:15
d347hm4njimmydee: but accessing the ap make the computer freeze and i have to reboot, i read somewhere that you have to use kwifimanager to connect to a wpa ap14:15
jimmydeed347hm4n: can you turn off wpa for a sec and see if you get in?14:16
d347hm4njimmydee: give me a min, ill get back to you14:16
bobbistdin, dhq and jimmydee: see you later hopefully and thanks14:16
Rebecca_workis there a known fault with adept not releasing the lock file?14:17
jimmydeeI've seen synaptic do it14:17
BluesKajFlats, I went thru the same thing, the next time the adept manager asks you to update just reconfigure it not to start ...then do an apt-get upgrade everyday and you will be notified of the regular updates in a less bothersome way.14:17
ubunturoshow do I remove a half-configured package?14:18
d347hm4njimmydee:if i disappear it is because i have stalled at 28% and then crashed, ill be back though14:18
ThylioWhen i open a program in desktop1, why do i see it in the taskline in desktop2? I don't want that.14:18
frank__Ok that sounds easy enough14:18
wastedfluidi just use apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade w/out adept14:18
jimmydeed347hm4n: I'll be here14:18
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:18
ubunturosdpkg -r package-name doesn't help14:18
dhq_ubunturos, hey14:19
ubunturoshey dhq14:19
dhq_ubunturos, cant wait for kde414:19
ubunturosdhq_: umm, December14:20
ubunturosbtw dhq_ do you know how to remove a half-configured package in Kubuntu?14:20
dhq_ubunturos, jan i guess14:20
WaltzingAlongubunturos: yes sudo dpkg -r <package>14:20
ubunturosdhq_: ah, yes, they did change the date14:20
dhq_right on it WaltzingAlong :)14:20
ubunturosWaltzingAlong: that doesn't work - it cannot find the package, since it is not installed14:20
Rebecca_workhow i unlock the apt/adept lock file?14:20
jimmydeeubunturos: sudo apt-get remove packagename14:20
ubunturosjimmydee: that doesn't work - package is not installed14:21
BluesKajwhat's with the new distribution version available? ..I did a clean gutsy install !14:21
dhq_Rebecca_work, just do a killall adept14:21
ubunturosjimmydee: WaltzingAlong - it is half-configured14:21
AngelusBluesKaj: bug14:21
dhq_Rebecca_work, just do a killall and find any process with adept and make sure you are root whan youu run it14:21
WaltzingAlongThylio: customize the panel then. kcontrol, find taskbar, change the options there14:21
d347hm4njimmydee: as predicted, without the wpa encryption14:21
jimmydeesudo apt-get -f install then sudo apt-get remove packagename14:22
AngelusBluesKaj: its' and adept bug , you're adept wil be updated and the bug will be fixed14:22
dhq_ubunturos, you could find the package you installed in synaptics and remove it14:22
ThylioWaltzingAlong: Okay, thx14:22
AngelusThylio: have you fixed it?14:22
lucahi everyone14:22
dhq_ubunturos,  sudo apt-get remove packagename14:22
dhq_should work14:22
Angelusif you want i have a how Thylio for the bootup splash14:22
ubunturosdhq_: the package *is not* installed - it is *half-configured*14:22
lucadoes anyone use the kdesvn-buildrc script successufully?14:22
Rebecca_workdhq_: thanks14:22
jimmydeeubunturos: sudo apt-get -f install then sudo apt-get remove packagename14:23
WaltzingAlongubunturos: you did not install it through a .deb or apt or adept or such?14:23
WaltzingAlongubunturos: or you installed from source?14:23
dhq_jimmydee, what if he is installing from source or deb14:23
ThylioAngelus: Yes, pleas tell me how to fix it :)14:23
ubunturosWaltzingAlong: I installed it using Adept, but it stopped midway14:23
Angelusok i'll give you the link Thylio14:23
ubunturosWaltzingAlong: now, the status of the package is "Half-configured"14:23
dhq_ubunturos, the do sudo apt-get -f install14:23
dhq_ubunturos, and then remove the package14:24
jimmydeed347hm4n: feel like installing kwifimanager?14:24
WaltzingAlongok then from the console you should be able to run sudo dpkg -r <package name>  but it may also work to do sudo aptitude purge <package>; sudo dpkg --configure -a    should attempt to configure it14:24
AngelusThylio: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/15622514:24
d347hm4njimmydee: i have it installed. Should i just tryagain in that14:24
jimmydeegive it a swing14:25
ThylioAngelus: Thx. I'll try to fix it now=)14:25
dhq_ubunturos, sudo apt-get -f install this will configures and install the package ie if you used adept14:25
Angelusfor nothing Thylio14:25
d347hm4nwoohoo i'll be back :D14:25
BluesKajAngelus, what do you mean adept will be updated ? when and how?14:26
blendtuxhow can i change gtk themes, for programs like the gimp wich is using my colour sheme of kde and i dont want that14:26
ubunturosjimmydee: doesn't help14:26
d347hm4njimmydee: the switch to network button is greyed out, and the noise statistic is at 158, with 0 for connection14:27
WaltzingAlongturn off your microwave oven!14:27
ubunturosdhq_: the problem is that dpkg cannot find the package (nor can adept / apt-get) since it isn't installed, just half configured14:27
dhq_BluesKaj, well isnt that option there in kcontrol>>lookand feel not so sure but its there in the apparency somewhere14:27
AngelusBluesKaj: a new version of adept, that will fix the bug you have "the update to new version" bug14:27
AngelusBluesKaj: my adept already got updated, and the bug is fixed14:28
dhq_blendtux, , well isnt that option there in kcontrol>>lookand feel not so sure but its there in the apparency somewhere14:28
blendtuxbut i am talking about the gtk applications14:28
jimmydeed347hm4n: hmmm one moment14:28
dhq_ubunturos, i have no clue14:29
ubunturosdhq_: no, problem. Thanks, anyway14:29
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d347hm4njimmydee: np, thanks for the time already :D14:29
dhq_ubunturos, i got to go now see you around14:29
X-DeluXecould anybody help me with bluetooth + kde?14:29
ubunturosdhq_: bye, see you later14:29
dhq_X-DeluXe, i have been running around every where for bluetooth +kde but never got help14:29
dhq_X-DeluXe, if you find something do tell me14:30
d347hm4nX-DeluXe: the best place for bluetooth suport is fedora 8, but it is still a test release14:30
sparrwThe KDE printer dialog always wants to scan 127.0.0.*, which seems silly.  Why doesn't it know to look at the OTHER subnet that I am on?14:31
sehesparrw: prolly becos nobody programmed it to do so14:32
sehesparr: how many printers do you have on your network14:32
X-DeluXedhq_: okay...14:32
blendtuxdhq what i meant is i have a different colour sheme for gtk apps but dont know how to apply that14:33
blendtuxnow its using the kde coloursheme14:33
sparrwsehe: maybe 1, maybe 37.14:33
FlatsWhen a program is installed, where does it normally install to?14:35
ThylioAngelus: You said that i had to write "make menuconfig", what folder do i need to bee in?14:36
Angelusin you're kernel source folder14:37
ThylioAngelus: then how do I make it there?14:37
* genii puts on a new pot of coffee14:38
WaltzingAlongblendtux: i think you can do that in 'system settings'; system settings/appearance/gtk styles and fonts14:38
FlatsWhen a program is installed, where does it normally install to?14:38
Flatsi.e. Xchat?14:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:39
blendtuxehm not realy, WaltzingAlong its using the colour sheme from kde14:39
blendtuxand i want a different colour sheme for gtk2 apps14:39
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viviaHi there... I just upgraded to Gutsy, everything seems to be running fine, but if I run aptitude -f install it acts up : http://pastebin.ca/746758    The weird thing is, the packages it states as "not installable" are actually installed! ok, I haven't tried all of them, but I do have gnome-control-center, rpm, libopensync0, desktop-file-utils and ntfs-3g ... And, apart from opensync-related stuff which is from a third-party repository, all other packa14:41
WaltzingAlongblendtux: gtk-theme-switch or something like that?14:42
sparrwFlats: "dpkg -L nameofpackage"14:42
Flatssparrw Thx14:42
sparrwFlats: most programs install a binary in /usr/bin or /usr/share/bin or /bin, and some data in /usr/share/... or /usr/local/share/...14:42
FlatsSo usr/bin dare I say is kinda like program files in Windows14:43
blendtuxoke thanks14:43
wertyis firestarter really safe?14:43
jimmydeestdin: if youre around I got a samba issue for you14:43
jimmydeeonly as kindlying werty14:44
WaltzingAlong!info guarddog14:44
ubotuguarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB14:44
wertyi've tried guardog but i cant use kopete nad konversation...14:45
jimmydeeany samba help this morning?14:45
WaltzingAlongwerty: configure it correctly14:45
WaltzingAlongwerty: certainly they can both work with iptables modified by guarddog14:45
wertyyes i did it but ..konversation and kopete although i allowed the protocol through guar... say that server denied actively..14:46
WaltzingAlongvivia: may be helpful to run sudo aptitude update   and may also be helpful to make sure you have just gutsy repositories and not a mixture of gutsy and feisty14:47
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).14:47
viviaWaltzingAlong: thx... just reran aptitude update, no change, checked repos, they are ok... :|14:49
WaltzingAlongvivia: great14:49
stdinjimmydee: I gave up on samba a while ago14:49
WaltzingAlongwerty: http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/14:49
WaltzingAlongwerty: take your time, work through it slowly :D14:50
viviaWaltzingAlong: not so great, my problem persists and i can't find what might be wrong! ... i'm afraid i have to be too careful in order to not lose my openoffice and eclipse...14:50
yaccini used encrypted LVM when i install kubuntu gutsy.... now i cant delete the partitions in fdisk?14:50
WaltzingAlongvivia: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin14:50
surfacehow can i add an app into kwallet, let say pidgin ?14:51
viviaWaltzingAlong: http://pastebin.ca/74677214:52
clavius_just installed kubuntu 7.10, should there be compiz on by default_14:52
WaltzingAlongclavius_:  no14:52
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion14:52
yaccinhow can i delte the partitions on the encrypted LVM i created with the alternate CD?14:52
stdinWaltzingAlong: you know we have !compiz ?14:52
WaltzingAlongclavius_: ubuntu 7.10 (gnome) yes14:53
WaltzingAlongstdin: sure do!14:53
* genii hands stdin a large mug of coffee14:53
stdinWaltzingAlong: gotta be easier than a command alias ;)14:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:53
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion14:53
* stdin takes the coffee and dumps a ton of sugar in it14:53
clavius_WaltzingAlong: ok14:54
WaltzingAlongvivia: how about opening aptitude, sudo aptitude, then specifying to install the packages you want to keep14:54
geniistdin: :)14:54
vesalHi, I have a simple problem, but I can't find any clues on the net... after upgrading to Gutsy, the adept_manager doesn't show the manage repository dialogue... why?14:54
* WaltzingAlong ponders a double serving of mocha14:54
WaltzingAlongvesal: software-properties-kde needs to be installed ?14:55
stdinWaltzingAlong: or at least add the bit about help in #compiz-fusion (as it's really not supported by us) to your little alias14:56
WaltzingAlongstdin: yeah mostly that was for when the bot was on break and the influx had just started14:56
viviaWaltzingAlong: something messed up my packages... let me run aptitude in full screen and i'll be back. :)14:56
vesalYes! Somehow this had been uninstalled... THANKS A MILLION TIMES... but I'm curious though, how do you know such stuff? Where should I have looked for this information (other than here?)14:57
WaltzingAlongvivia: nice thing about sudo aptitude is that it provides an ncurses interface too, so in konsole you can click things14:57
stdinexperience is the key to linux knowledge, if you break your system enough you learn how to fix it14:58
blendtuxehm WaltzingAlong is that gkt-theme-switch app is only for changing themes already installed or allso for new theme installation14:58
WaltzingAlongvesal: either you are born with it or not, lol, j/j; asking google may have yielded the answer or searching wiki.ubuntu.com is it?14:58
blendtuxcuase every gtk theme i donwload i can not install14:58
WaltzingAlongyaccin: with?14:59
stdinblendtux: it's only to apply the kde theme to GTK apps14:59
yaccinWaltzingAlong: i had kubuntu isntalled on an encrypted LVM14:59
WaltzingAlongstdin: how to make gtk apps have a different theme than kde apps/colors, was the question by blendtux14:59
yaccinnow i cant use fdisk to make a new partition table14:59
blendtuxehm, that is not what i am looking for14:59
WaltzingAlongyaccin: how to delete an encrypted lvm with fdisk?14:59
WaltzingAlongdifferent colors*15:00
blendtuxi want to use a gtk2 theme and different colours for apps like gimp and vlc15:00
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stdinblendtux: look in System Settings > Appearance > GTK Styles and Fonts15:00
yaccinstrange thing is: it worked on my laptop15:00
blendtuxyes but how can i install a gtk theme from those settings15:01
blendtuxto use for my gtk apps15:01
viviaWaltzingAlong: turns out i just have to select my packages, select the other solution which is "Cancel the removal of $other_package", press enter to see which libs it misses and install them... Why couldn't aptitude install them? ^o)15:01
surfacehow can i add an app to kwallet, let say pidgin ?15:01
stdinblendtux: open what ever gnome's equivalent of system settings is and install it?15:01
WaltzingAlongvivia: there is an option in aptitude to cancel all marked changes15:01
blendtuxehm i never used gnome, lol15:01
WaltzingAlongsurface: rewrite pidgin to use kwallet ?15:01
stdinsurface: pidgin doesn't work with kwallet15:01
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viviaWaltzingAlong: i just need to install some new stuff....15:02
Angelusstdin: the frambuffer wiki you're giving him is useless to solve the bootupsplash bug15:02
WaltzingAlongmaybe as a plugin?15:02
stdinblendtux: I don't think there is any app to install gtk themes in KDE, unless you find a package with the gnome one15:02
surfaceoh that means the app must support kwallet inorder to add it15:02
AngelusThylio: did you fix it?15:02
WaltzingAlongvivia: well there you go. glad you got it working (or will soon)15:03
surfacegtk-qt-engine will make ur gtk app looks like qt one15:03
dystopianraysurface: generally only kde applications support kwallet15:03
stdinAngelus: that's the only wiki page on framebuffers I can find15:03
AmarilisI tried to run Kubuntu 7.10 from Live CD on my desktop, but I wasn't able to see anything on my display. The same problem I encountered when I tried Kubuntu 7.04 and even Ubuntu 7.04/7.10.15:03
AmarilisMy configuration is:15:03
AmarilisGA-8I945P Pro motherboard/nvidia 6600 GTS 128VRAM graphic card/3.0GHz processor (HT)/15:03
Amarilis512 MB RAM/SATA HDD/Samsung SyncMaster 959NF-display15:03
AmarilisI tested both Live CD's (Kubuntu/Ubuntu 7.10) on a Compaq laptop (3-4 years old) and it worked perfect.15:03
surfacedystopianray: oh i see15:03
AmarilisIs there something related to my desktop configuration (e.g. graphic card) or is it else ?15:03
WaltzingAlongAmarilis: i think the livecd gives options to start in safe graphics mode and such , maybe try that15:04
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dystopianraysurface: pidgin developers have specifically chosen not to use/implement secure password storage15:04
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.15:04
Amariliswaltizing> i'll give it a try15:05
AngelusAmarilis: wait, it will apear. its a splashscreen bug15:05
surfacedystopianray: i see.15:05
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mdf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:05
Angelusstdin: it's a bug, the developers didn't make vesafb available in the kubuntu kernel, and they left bootup splash there. bootup splash doesn't work without vesafb , at least on somecards. i wrote a fix for it on launchpad15:05
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stdinAngelus: so poke someone in #ubuntu-kernel about it ;)15:06
Amarilisand why on the earth dont fix this f....bug?15:07
Amarilisit's pretty anoying...for me at least15:07
Amarilisand i think for others too15:08
Angelusah ok stdin thanks i will15:08
paulcI was just reading the ubuntu installation & upgrades forum, and noticed this post. It mirrors what happened to me, I keep seeing the distribution upgrade available in adept.. here is the forum message:Last night before I went to bed, I installed kubuntu-desktop and left it at that.15:08
paulc 15:08
paulc This morning I get up and I see a new package manager wants to install stuff. Adapt Manager did its thing and installed 12 updates. When it was finished, it told me there was a new distribution available. I was a little surprised because I thought I was already on the newest one.15:08
paulc 15:08
paulc I did a cat /etc/issue and it told me I was using 7.1015:08
paulc 15:08
paulc I opened the update manager which I'm used to using in gnome and it doesn't say anything about a new distribution upgrade (which my desktop did, and I used to upgrade it after beta was over.)15:08
paulc 15:08
stdinpaulc: thanks for that flood, please never do that again15:09
paulcsorry, I don't know what a flood is. I ws just trying to post a message I read, what should I have done?15:10
stdinpaulc: the issue of adept still showing version upgrade is known, ignore it for now until the fix is released15:10
paulcI will inform that user on the forums, thanks, and sorry again,15:10
stdinpaulc: use a link to the message, don't paste large posts in here15:10
viviaWaltzingAlong: now that's worse, for some reason it wants to remove a total of 365 packages :(... still trying15:11
Angelusdone stdin15:11
paulchere is a link to his message: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588074&goto=newpost15:11
* genii sips a coffee15:11
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AmarilisAngeluss: i booted using Kubuntu live cd 7.10. and on my display i see only stripes15:13
viviaWaltzingAlong: alright... on aptitude's menu i just selected "cancel all pending tasks"... who knows why it wanted them to be removed!... ok, now i just have some unused packages which i just removed and aptitude is happy :)15:13
viviaWaltzingAlong: thanx :)15:13
Amarilisi heard the sound from KDE15:13
WaltzingAlongvivia: :D15:13
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration15:14
srednais there a reason why there isn't 64bit java packages?15:16
tueHey. I wish to use an external screen with my laptop on k. gutsy. Xorg.conf looks fine - it has identified both the laptop and the external monitor and set up relevant sections. In serverlayout it has the lines: Screen 0 "laptop_screen" \n Screen 1 "external_screen" RightOf "laptop_screen" so that looks fine to. But when i plug in the external monitor, the external monitor is just a clone of the laptop monitor in tha laptops native resolution. How can i15:16
tuechange this?15:16
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stdinsredna: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java15:18
paulcI have a question about running KDE4 beta. I followed the instructions in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php15:19
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paulcbut my system tray is empty and I can't start any apps15:19
bigmi've got some trouble with beta 3...15:20
paulcall that I see is the clock, the klipper and korganizer Daemon.15:20
hydrogenthats expected15:20
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hydrogenyou should bea ble to start apps15:20
hydrogenthe rest is expected15:20
paulcthe desktop toolbar puts out empty boxes that do nothing, so how do you start apps?15:20
bigmi need to find out how to make screenshots to explain my problems^^15:21
poison--llo guys15:21
supert0ne1when will we see rc1 and will it be somewhat more usable than beta 3?15:21
AmarilisWaltzingAlong, Angelus: i booted Kubuntu LiveCD in Safe mode VGA(sorry if i don't mention exactly) and it's started perfectly15:21
d347hm4nhow do i remove an already loaded wireless driver?15:21
hydrogenpaulc: krunner15:21
Amarilisso... i'm pretty happy now that i can test the last release of kubuntu/ububtu15:22
paulchydrogen, how do you start krunner?15:22
WaltzingAlongAmarilis: great.15:22
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php15:22
hydrogenpaulc: alt-f2 or right click on the desktop and choose run15:22
srednastdin: thank you. seems there is no lights ahead :(15:22
saloxhow can i install gimp-2.2.17 in kubuntu 7.10, default is gimp-2.4.rc3 ?15:23
Amarilisthanks Waltzing for your idea15:23
supert0ne1ooo tomorrow im excited now15:23
saloxhow can i install gimp-2.2.17 in kubuntu 7.10, default is gimp-2.4.rc3 ?15:24
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Vermuxwhen I sign out from Kubuntu the computer is stuck and I have to power it off to restart it. it happaned already 4 times so far. Does anybody know about this bug??15:25
paulcaccording to the system activity krunner is running, as is plasma, kdeinit4, kded4, kwin and kaccess15:25
saloxhow can i install gimp-2.2.17 in kubuntu 7.10, default is gimp-2.4.rc3 ?15:26
SlimeyPeteVermux: that used to happen for me in Fiesty. Do you use Fiesty or Gutsy?15:26
SlimeyPeteI don't think it was ever fixed in Fiesty but it doesn't occur in Gutsy, for me at least15:26
WaltzingAlongsalox: find it; find the .deb maybe you can run one from feisty. but you want it because it is slower at the rc3 release than was gimp2.2.17 for you15:26
yaccinthanks kubuntu for ruining my hard disk -_-15:26
WaltzingAlongyaccin: what did i do this time15:27
bigmoh kewl i have a white screen now^^15:27
WaltzingAlongSlimeyPete: Vermux: i know of at least one computer that does not exhibit this issue with the 2.6.22 kernel (kubuntu gutsy)15:27
VermuxSlimeyPete: please remind me how do I check? I think fiesty15:27
yaccinWaltzingAlong: still the problem that i cant fdisk my hard draive now!15:28
SlimeyPeteVermux: uname -r15:28
SlimeyPete(I think)15:28
saloxingwaltzi want it because rc3 is a test version15:28
WaltzingAlongVermux: cat /etc/lsb-release15:28
SlimeyPetethat's the Feisty kernel15:28
WaltzingAlongfeisty then or at least gutsy with the feisty kernel15:28
SlimeyPeteI'd suggest upgrading to Gutsy if this problem is seriously bothering you15:29
VermuxDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 7.04"15:29
WaltzingAlongfeisty it is!15:29
Vermuxis it a known problem?15:29
SlimeyPeteVermux: yeah15:29
VermuxGusty is the new version?15:30
WaltzingAlong!gutsy | Vermux15:30
ubotuVermux: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents15:30
SlimeyPeteyeah, Gutsy is the latest one15:30
WaltzingAlongyaccin: how about http://www.google.com/search?q=manipulate+lvm+partitions&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-815:30
blendtuxonly use the bittorrent if you are not a customer off comcast15:30
VermuxSlimeyPete: is it beta version?15:30
SlimeyPeteVermux: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10510215:30
SlimeyPeteVermux: no, Gutsy has been released15:30
SlimeyPeteit was released last week15:31
SlimeyPeteit's stable.15:31
WaltzingAlong!info evms | yaccin15:31
ubotuyaccin: evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.5-26ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 86 kB, installed size 312 kB15:31
yaccinWaltzingAlong: no15:32
yaccini got it15:32
yaccinbut thanks15:32
blendtuxwhat does the evms15:32
blendtuxcause the description is kinda vage15:32
WaltzingAlongblendtux: volume management; (partition management with logical volumes) ?15:32
blendtuxoh oke15:32
Hamraif i write a document with openoffice write, and save it as MS-Word, can i be sure that Word will open it properly? i dont want my tutor to receive gibberish in my homeworks.15:33
SlimeyPeteHamra: you can be 99% sure. OO's Word compatibility is good these days.15:34
WaltzingAlongHamra: if the person needs to edit it, then maybe find a happy medium or just use open iso standards (like odt); you cannot be sure that ms office will not recognize the document as having been created elsewhere (or in OOo specifically) then display it poorly (hm reminds me of using opera on hotmail some years ago); but otherwise, no need to edit, export to PDF; and btw, should you be doing any significant documentation, LaTeX!15:34
VermuxSlimeyPete: so the only solution is to upgrade? I didnt c any solution in the link u sent me15:35
SlimeyPeteVermux: yeah I think it's the only solution, sorry.15:35
stephensflcanyone here have any success with dual monitor using Nvidia 7600 GS... kubuntu 7.10  ?15:35
Hamrathnx waltzingalong, slimeypete15:35
cperrin88_Can someone help me with setting up Compiz (and maybe XGL) for my Kubuntu 7.10. I don't know what's wrong but I have around 100% CPU load when I use XGL15:36
VermuxSlimeyPete: is Gutsy is Kubuntu?15:40
SlimeyPeteVermux: yes15:40
SlimeyPeteVermux: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php15:40
SlimeyPetethere's a download link there15:40
smorgsmorg@smorg-desktop:~$ sudo mdf2iso "/media/sda1/Documents and Settings/Smorg/My Documents/Files/Disk Images/Diablo II/INSTALL.mdf" "/home/smorg/Diablo II"15:41
smorgunable to open15:41
smorgah there we go, it didn't like my quotes15:43
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YammehGuys, do you know of an application that sits in the task bar that shows you the usage of your hardware?15:47
martin_are there anyone here that could tell me how i make an accsess point for my wifi card??15:47
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JucatoYammeh: what kind of hardware?15:50
YammehWell my cpu/memory/hard drive etc15:51
wertyany app which monitors the ip traffic and shows which apps are using it/15:51
E_mEall my video's on youtube and GIFs all have slight pauses every 2-3 seconds15:52
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Jucatowerty: not sure if these will fit your needs: knetstats, knetload, knemo15:52
JucatoYammeh: probably the System Guard panel applet15:53
YammehOk, I'll google it, thanks15:53
JucatoYammeh: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Guard15:54
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VermuxJucato: do u recommend updating to Gutsy?15:56
Jucatohm.... next week probably :)15:56
Jucatoso that you could avoid server traffic and get the latest bugfixes15:57
YammehIt works, Jucato. Thanks dude15:57
VermuxJucato: there havent been fixes yet?15:58
AngelusAmarilis: then VGA 16 something kernel module is compatable with you're card. my bad for taking long, iwas training.15:58
WaltzingAlong!compiz | cperrin88_ heere are some instructions regarding compiz and kubuntu; see also !nvidia or !ati or so on regarding your video card15:58
ubotucperrin88_ heere are some instructions regarding compiz and kubuntu; see also !nvidia or !ati or so on regarding your video card: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion15:58
JucatoVermux: not sure if they're in the servers already15:58
qolohow do i set env vars for a session ?15:59
qoloexport ?15:59
ubotuopenweek is Ubuntu is hosting a series of introductory sessions for people who want to join the Ubuntu community, which all takes place in a week. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek for schedules, logs, and instructions.16:00
JuJuBeeAnybody good with iptables?16:05
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:05
* olegb slams his head in the table due to kopete crashing16:10
AzzcoHAs anyone gotten the newer 100.14.23 nvidia drivers to work with kernel 2.6.23?16:11
verswhat program do i use to download music?16:11
SlimeyPeteamule, azureus, ktorrent16:12
versrite on....i have ktorrent....16:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:14
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jjj__heard of the man who levitated in front of the whitehouse?16:17
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:17
jjj__there's a better magic than that...16:17
jjj__that is, kubuntu being used on all pc all over the world! I hope it will happen soon...16:18
blzmnim having a problem innstaling ubuntu 7.10 after i have booted the cd and pressed start/innstall it crashes to busy box and says buffer error on device fd0 ect im wondering if its somthing i can fix or if its a permanent hardware problem16:19
jjj__blzmn: a problem in your floppy drive?16:19
blzmnno tought that so i disabled it same problem16:20
blzmni might have to check in to it abit more dont remember the exact error codes i got but if anyone has experiensed anything similar pleas let me know16:21
hnbc34anyone got time to help a brother get his usb hard drive working in 7.1016:27
hnbc34no takers16:29
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Eyelessdont have one :/16:30
wertyi've tried  knetstats, knetload, knemo but they don't actually do the job..16:32
wertyis there something like iptable monitor which also reports which app is using them?16:33
Jucatowerty: try searching in http://www.kde-apps.org or just browse through Adept (there's a search filter there for easier searching)16:36
babeckI was just wondering if there was a work around for the incorrect drop shadows generated by kwin-composite that appear when moving music to the play list in Amarok?16:36
Jucatokwin composite? that's for KDE 416:37
babeckJucato: In Kcontrol -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Translucency kwin provides composite options.16:38
Jucatothat's kompmgr :)16:38
babeckJucato: oops sorry.16:38
Jucato(it's a beta-quality software and no longer maintained...)16:39
Jucato(predated amarok, so I doubt if it had amarok's playlist in mind :P)16:40
givaldoHi, people! Someone try use Palms with kubuntu?16:40
babeckJucato: Ah so I guess not then.  That's too bad, I don't much care for Beryl, but I do like the drop shadows.16:40
Jucatohow often do you move music? :D16:41
babeckJucato: Sadly I'm the type that pretty much drags each song over individually.16:41
givaldoI try use "K-pilot", but it isn't connect with my palm (Zire 21).16:42
givaldoAll time I click in "search device" button, the program search to 30% and crash.16:43
givaldowith or without device connect16:43
givaldosomeone know anyway to solve this?16:44
phirasI have a fresh Kubuntu7.10 , + mplayer , but I couldn't play any video file (mpg, wmv ), anyone can help please ?16:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:48
SlimeyPeteyou probably need to grab the win32codecs from somewhere16:48
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phirasphiras@phiras-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-restricted-extras[sudo] password for phiras:Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extra16:51
phirasI couldn't install it !16:52
poison--upgrade tp gutsy went smood :D16:55
poison--found a few bugs tho16:55
poison--where can i report?16:55
poison--or to where16:55
SlimeyPetepoison--: ^^16:56
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supert0ne1all of my bugs come in the form of compiz-fusion but its soo hard to give up heh16:56
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion16:57
don_hey guys16:57
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don_i installed oracle -xe16:57
don_how do i start it ?>16:57
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taylan_hi all17:02
taylan_i am new at linux world17:02
don_ahh i see17:03
taylan_i want to start visual programming on linux17:03
taylan_any suggessstions :)17:03
taylan_programs ide etc.17:04
don_erm , try glade17:05
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don_no problem17:06
vbgunzsoundkonverter doesn't recognize mp3s anymore :( i can play mp3's but I can no longer convert them as soundKonverter does not recognize them :/17:06
vbgunzI think I might know. it has plenty of plugins but is not finding any applications17:08
florianrIs there a Prog. to automaticaly generate a label with a CDs Content?17:12
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash17:15
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blubbI've got a problem with my soundcard. There's no master mixer, and kmix does mix a wrong mixer per default (pc speaker), so the function keys on my laptop are mapped on the wrong mixer channel. What can I do?17:17
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:19
blubbok I found it out, once I disabled the function keys but I don't know now how to activate them... where or how are they mapped?17:19
MurielGodoiAFAIK,  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:21
MurielGodoiblubb:  AFAIK,  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:21
bottigerwow - I just took a look at /var/log/auth.log and found *lots* of stuff like this: http://pastebin.ca/74692017:21
bottigeris that normal?17:22
blubbMurielGodoi: no17:22
blubbI can assign the function keys in kde control center but not kmix. it just does not work if I press them... it seems they get ignored :(17:23
vbgunzanyone know how I can get the rest of the soundKonverter programs like aacgain, etc?17:24
hitmanWillybottiger: no, i would say its not17:24
blubbhmm how is that possible?17:24
bottigerhitmanWilly: anything you can do about it :) except from forcing the users to user proper passwords17:25
bottigerand don't have "guest", "ftp" or "admin" user17:25
MurielGodoiblubb: maybe right click in kmix icon and 'select master channel' can solve your problem17:25
hitmanWillybottiger: either that or shut off sshd17:25
Juz_moi? does 7.10 install with firefox or must it be installed afterwards?  I ask because a friend is telling me it isn't and I don't have it here ?17:26
hitmanWillybottiger: at least it looks like they didn't manage to get in17:26
bottigerhitmanWilly: not an option :) but can't you set sshd do ban people with 50 failed logins17:26
WaltzingAlongbottiger: there are a few things you can do to help with sshd; change the number of retries in a certain duration; set the allowed users in sshd_config; use fail2ban17:26
fdovingJuz_moi: does not come with firefox.17:26
Juz_moiok tnx17:27
YammehHow do I disable compiz?17:27
hitmanWillybottiger: you can set it to ban people for any number of faile logins IIRC17:27
WaltzingAlongYammeh: kwin --replace17:27
hitmanWillybottiger: admitedly, im a little rusty with it17:27
WaltzingAlongYammeh: some suggestions here http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/8717:28
bottigerok - I think I'll take a look at sshd_config17:28
hitmanWillybottiger: do you do any remote admin on this box?17:28
WaltzingAlong!info fail2ban | bottiger17:28
ubotubottiger: fail2ban: bans IPs that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 572 kB17:28
bottigerbut ugh - den I have to reboot the ssh service :/17:28
WaltzingAlong/etc/init.d/sshd reload ?17:28
hitmanWillyis it reload or restart?17:28
bottigerWaltzingAlong: yes - but what *if* something went wrong?17:29
bottigerubotu: I'm only running feisty17:29
WaltzingAlongbottiger: so you know that you were trying to log in but typed the wrong password 3 times. yup you wait 10 minutes before trying again and you know that already (or however you configure it)17:29
bottigerblah - a bot :P17:29
WaltzingAlong!info fail2ban feisty | bottiger17:29
hitmanWillybottiger: change it back and restart it again :)17:29
ubotubottiger: fail2ban: bans IPs that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.6-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 66 kB, installed size 512 kB17:29
WaltzingAlongbottiger: if you know good ips to always accept then you can use host allow/deny files; otherwise sshd config with allowed users and the max retries in a given amount of time17:30
hitmanWillybottiger: also, i would reccomend disabling sudo for remote login, unless you need to do remote admin17:31
vbgunzI have a general offtopic question... if I convert an mp3 706kbps to ogg 192kbps, I know I lose quality *but* is it lost forever OR can I convert it back to say ogg 706kbps and get great quality again?17:32
hitmanWillyvbgunz: its lost forever in the new file17:32
bottigerhitmanWilly: I don't have physical access to the server, but I would say that my password is safe17:32
hitmanWillybottiger: ok17:33
hitmanWillybottiger: heh, my wifi router's password is a random hash, have yet to have someone hack past that :)17:34
hitmanWillybottiger: that, plus mac filtering17:35
SeanTatervbgunz: Actually, at that bitrate, it's unimportant. a 706kbps is not better (to human ears) than a 256 one, and a 192kbps ogg is probably equally high quality.17:37
hitmanWillyyeah, 192 ogg is still pretty damn good17:37
vbgunzSeanTater: well that eases a bit :)17:37
blubbhmm anyone using function keys to control the sound volume? It looks like a bug, it stopped working here since the update17:37
SeanTatervbgunz: If size is not an issue and you absolutely must have perfect quality, consider flac (which is perfect no matter how you compress it, though it's a big large)17:38
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy17:38
hitmanWillythat's cause flac is more or less a bit for bit copy17:38
SeanTaterhitmanWilly: exactly17:38
MurielGodoivbgunz: what about 128kbps bitrate?17:38
vbgunzturned hundreds of files from all types and bitrates to ogg 192... didn't notice but after the originals were gone, i realized ogg 192 is of medium quality17:39
SeanTatervbgunz: I imagine you did not lose much.17:39
vbgunzI hope so, all of my audio is now in ogg format17:39
hitmanWillynah, 192 ogg you won't really notice a difference17:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:40
hitmanWillyVermux: what are you trying to do?17:40
SeanTatervbgunz: quality is very subjective, but double blind testing has shown OGG quality 3 to be indestinguishable from the original (quality 3 is 112 kb/s)17:41
VermuxhitmanWilly: read an explanation about the PATH- didnt get it17:41
MurielGodoihitmanWilly: There is to much difference between 128 ogg and 192 ogg?17:41
whateveranyone has problem with MFC210C (or DCP-120C) under gutsy?  it stopped working after I upgrade from Feisty.  I know some people have the same problem but no solution17:41
hitmanWillyabout 128 is where I start noticing a SLIGHT quality loss17:42
SeanTaterMurielGodoi: quality 3 and above are all about the same for the average song.17:42
whateveranyone has problem with MFC210C (or DCP-120C) under gutsy?  it stopped working after I upgrade from Feisty.  I know some people have the same problem but no solution17:42
VermuxhitmanWilly:  I typed echo $PATH. what is it?17:42
SeanTaterMurielGodoi: So quality 3 (112kb/s) is what I encodec mine at17:42
SeanTater /encoded/17:43
hitmanWillyVermux: the $PATH variable is a list of dirs where the system looks for stuff17:43
YammehIs there nowhere I can download a pack of themes and choose form the pack? Rather than downloading one at a time >>17:43
MurielGodoiSeanTater: I'm going to re-rip all my cds and I am in doubt about which bitrate should I use17:43
hitmanWillyVermux: for example, if you typed say vlc at the command line, it would look in the path dirs for an executable file named vlc17:44
Vermuxwhy it gave me the following:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games?17:44
SeanTaterMurielGodoi: Quality 3 is my suggestion, but like I said, you can use FLAC if you want a perfect copy.17:44
hitmanWillyVermux: that's a default buntu $PATH setup17:44
VermuxhitmanWilly: ?17:45
whateveranyone know how to fix the problem with MFC210C (or DCP-120C) under gutsy?  it stopped working after I upgrade from Feisty.  I know some people had the same problem but can't find any solution17:45
hitmanWillyVermux: if an app isn't in the $PATH, you have to reference the full location of the file17:45
vbgunzSeanTater: wow, I am going to try converting some (wav 706) to (ogg 192) and listen again17:45
VermuxhitmanWilly: when I want to execute a file?17:46
hitmanWillyfor example, /home/user/vlc/vlc, vice just typing vlc17:46
SeanTaterwhatever: What is "MFC210C"17:46
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VermuxhitmanWilly: so the PATH stays the same all the time?17:46
whateverbrother mfc210c multi-function printer/scanner/fax etc17:46
Linoobwell  it is the next version after MFC210B17:46
hitmanWillyVermux: more or less, tho you can change it17:46
SeanTaterLinoob: :p17:46
whateverSeanTater: brother mfc210c multi-function printer/scanner/fax etc17:47
VermuxhitmanWilly: in which instance I will want to change it for example?17:47
SeanTaterwhatever: Unfortunately I don't have any experience with that, but mentioning it's a printer might help next time you ask. (hint)17:47
underdog5004What is the reason for having some of the "hidden" folders in my /home/underdog5004/ not be me-accesible?17:47
whateverSeanTater: ok.. thanx17:47
hitmanWillyVermux: very rarely would you ever need to, about the only reason is if the system can't find something that's in an odd location17:48
SeanTaterunderdog5004: specifically which files?17:48
VermuxhitmanWilly: so the default ubuntu PATH doesnt need to be modified, right?17:48
hitmanWillyVermux: no17:48
Linoobif it aint broke  dont try to fix it17:48
hitmanWillyVermux: unless you have a real reason to do so17:49
VermuxhitmanWilly: Im wondering how the directory /games is related to the PATH?17:49
hitmanWillyVermux: that's where game stuff is stored, kept seperate from the main system apps17:49
SeanTaterunderdog5004: the folder ".." is not in your home folder (it's another name for the directory above) and the others are usually created by programs you ran a root.17:50
hitmanWillyVermux: say you wanted a user to be able to play games, but not format disks, you'd simply give them access to the /games directory17:50
Vermuxso each section of the PATH is between the ":"? the computer will look at each section when Im trying to execute a command?17:50
Linoob2 games installed already ?17:50
Linoobfortune ?17:50
Linooband banner17:50
Linoobi dont think that are games17:51
hitmanWillyVermux: yes, in the order they are listed17:51
underdog5004SeanTater: I get that, but stuff like ~/.local/share/Trash/tmp is not me-readable17:51
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underdog5004sorry for the lag, I was watching lamers in ##linux17:51
VermuxhitmanWilly: why does /usr/local/sbin listed twice??17:52
hitmanWillyVermux: not sure, but don't worry about it, it won't hurt anything17:52
Linoobnot listed twice17:52
Linooblook very carefully17:52
VermuxhitmanWilly: my bad- one is bin and the other is sbin17:52
hitmanWillyVermux: k17:52
SeanTaterunderdog5004: I don't know. That folder is missing on my computer17:52
underdog5004oh...ok, thanks anyway17:53
underdog5004it's just a bear when I try to run rysnc.... :(17:53
wertyif i install kubuntu through ububntu17:53
wertyif i install kubuntu through ububntu17:53
wertyif i install kubuntu through ubuntu  desktop would it be the same?17:53
SeanTaterunderdog5004: I imagine something named "Trash" is not necessary for baskups anyway17:54
hitmanWillywerty: yes17:54
SeanTater /backups/17:54
underdog5004SeanTater: very true17:54
SeanTaterwerty: yes, as long as you install the package "kubuntu-desktop"17:54
hitmanWillywerty: the only difference would be you still had gnome installed as well17:54
SeanTaterunderdog5004: :)17:55
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html17:55
wertythen could i use gnome apps through kde?17:55
SeanTaterwerty: if you want the Kubuntu login manager, you can install "kdm" but that not necessary.17:55
hitmanWillywerty: yes, but you don't even need full gnome installed to do that17:55
SeanTaterwerty: yes, just like you can use KDE apps through gnome17:56
VousDeuxis the version upgrade notification ever going to be meaninful...or should I pretty much just always ignore it?17:56
underdog5004VousDeux: I'm on gutsy now, no problems...although the upgrade was really shady...had to reinstall, but my /home is on a different partition, ha ha17:57
heroi've never been able to get kdm to work17:57
heroand under the system menu, the login window runs gdmsetup17:57
heroso go figure17:57
VousDeuxunderdog5004: yeah, I'm on Gutsy too, but there is a bug in the version upgrade notification where it keeps notifying me again and again17:59
heroVousDeux: a well-known bug.  i have the same problem.18:00
VousDeuxhero: I understand that it is a well-known bug, but I'm just wondering if I ever expect to find anything meaningful being announced by this, or if I should just continue to ignore it until the bug is fixed18:01
Linoobi just updated again18:01
Linooband it was gone18:02
Linoobit saw it was already updated18:02
Vermuxdoes anybody know about a virus/spyware finderg?18:02
Linooband then it went away18:02
wertyif i install gnome through kde .could i then unistall it again?18:02
herowerty: http://librenix.com/?inode=2118:02
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sub[t]rnlwerty: yup18:05
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epimethahoy everybody!  been a whiiiile18:08
Taminminor question: the /etc/<passwd,shadow,group>.bak files are created at installation, correct?18:10
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epimethTamin: I don't have any .bak files for them...18:13
epimethI do have them with a '-' at the end tho....18:13
Taminas do I18:14
epimethcomparing them I see that the difference is that my user is there18:14
Tamin... they may be left over from a different distro18:14
epimethnot for me... this was a fresh install18:14
Taminah, ok18:15
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epimethdo a diff, see what happens18:15
epimeththey might be there for some sort of a clean up18:15
epimethin case you want to revert to a clean install or something18:15
MorrisseyHi, I have a Nvidia GeForce 8400m GS card, and a 32" LCD HDTV (supports 1080i) connected view DVI .... but the "nvidia-settings" won't let me choose a resolution on the LCD TV higher than 1280x720 .... I have manually tried to change this in xorg.conf, but it just seems the tv signal locks ... any ideas? adding that I am trying to use twinview, and I have the 100.14.23 (latest) driver18:16
taylando you know any other irc server for developers18:16
Taminnah, I was just curious how old they might be. I trashed my passwd/shadow files through a script screwup and was.. hesitant to poke at it18:16
herotaylan: this is the server to be on.18:17
Morrisseyanyone? :) This has been bothering me for weeks ...18:18
wertywell i understand the fact that linux is safe generally18:20
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jpatrickMorrissey: tried dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg ?18:20
Morrisseyjpatrick, what good would that do?18:20
jpatrickMorrissey: allow you to set the resolution values you want18:21
coreymon77werty: linux is completely safe aslong as you dont do something stupid18:21
jpatrickwerty: sudo unknown programs18:21
epimethcoreymon77: lol18:22
atlfalcons866are the servers down18:22
epimethcoreymon77: thing is... windows is perfectly safe as long as you don't do anything stupid, either :-)18:22
coreymon77werty: the difference between linux and windows is that in linux, if you tell it to do something stupid, it will do it18:22
tikal26|How do I find out what version of glibbc is in kubuntu gutsy18:22
coreymon77epimeth: such as installing it18:22
enkiduswho nokwn who configure the -vo of the mplayer??, just in the konsole works but with gmplayer not18:23
cristianI wanna install frostwire in kubuntu 7.1018:23
coreymon77well, i gotta go18:23
Morrisseyjpatrick, thats for my current monitor .. not for the added one18:23
cristianI wanna install frostwire in kubuntu 7.1018:24
Taminhmm. Now I'm not sure what's going on. I used those .bak files, and now... whoami is reporting 'cannot find name for uid 1000' - but there is an entry in passwd for 'me' at uid 100018:24
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire18:24
jpatrickMorrissey: ah, right, sorry, I have no experience in doing that then18:24
epimeth!frostwire > cristian18:24
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cristianepimeth: yeah18:24
epimethcristian: :-)18:25
cristianDo you know?18:25
epimethTamin: is there any reason you reverted to the baks?18:25
Lam_how do i lock a package so Adept stops asking me to upgrade it?18:25
enkiduswho nokwn who configure the -vo of the mplayer??, just in the konsole works but with gmplayer not18:25
epimethLam_: sorry18:26
Taminlong story short, I trashed passwd and shadow due to a script I had to write for class18:26
Vermuxwho know what is finderg.com?18:26
kozzenkidus: gmplayer has a preferences window18:27
epimethTamin: please take no offence at what I'm about to say...18:27
Taminthe backups had the correct uids for hal, haldaemon, and a few other things18:27
epimethTamin: idiot18:27
cristianAnybody know how update kubuntu 7.10 to kubuntu 7.10?18:27
epimethcristian: you mean 7.04 to 7.10?18:28
WaltzingAlongcristian: yes18:28
epimethcristian: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade18:28
WaltzingAlongenkidus: man mplayer18:28
cristianepimeth: ok18:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about finderg.com - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:28
MurielGodoi!language | epimeth18:29
ubotuepimeth: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.18:29
WaltzingAlongTamin: one of the nice things about sandboxes18:29
epimethTamin: you should have backed them up, eh?  google "fix linux users" or something....18:29
heroif you want to change from using gdm to logon to kdm, what do you need to do?18:29
WaltzingAlongsudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm18:29
BU_hi people18:30
epimethMurielGodoi: wha?18:30
epimethMurielGodoi: the "i" word?  sorry... was just ribbing Tamin18:30
Taminfor my pl-- sorry.18:30
TaminWaltzing, was tha for me?18:30
BU_I`m trying to install kubuntu 7.10 amd64 and it doesn`t appears in the boot menu afterwards, what it can be connected with?18:31
WaltzingAlonghero: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm18:31
MurielGodoiepimeth: that is ok... i realized that your was kidding just after that i sent it.18:31
F_MHow can an ISO image go through MD5 check when the burned disk doesn't [same files every time]?18:31
WaltzingAlongF_M: burn more slowly or on better media?18:31
heroWaltzingAlong: thanks18:32
F_MPhilips RW-s, 1x speed18:32
F_MI can't do any better18:32
geniiF_M: Crappy cd burner, no verifying on the burn process, burned too fast speed, bad cd reader18:33
geniiF_M: To answer the original q18:33
draremanyone know of a free and light-resource app launcher?  or is it best to use a custom panel?18:35
F_MWell maybe burning with a program less than 1MiB in size wasn't such a good idea after all... But Nero keeps complaining about changed executables no matter what I do18:35
F_MAny free but good burner software?18:35
epimethdrarem: you mean like katapult?18:35
epimethdrarem: just hit alt+space and type in the program you want18:36
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geniiF_M: Windows burning software?18:36
F_Myes, or some workaround to go without CDs18:37
geniiF_M: http://cdburnerxp.se/ is pretty good.18:38
pomos_hi, can somebody help me with a compilation of amarok?????18:39
ardchoilleFeisty was supposed to include a CNR client to work with Linspire's CNR technology. Where can I find that CNR client?18:40
draremepimeth, more like apple-type bar or widget container18:42
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jarkkoHello, could someone help a bit with this Konversation ^^'18:42
geniiardchoille: I dunno about being included. but if you really want it installed, http://www.cnr.com/supportPages/communityDownloadPluginInstructions.seam;jsessionid=A412CFB1B67D50E8B43495821958370A18:43
* genii needs to remember to use tinyurl more often18:43
ardchoillegenii: Feisty was supposed to include the client18:43
ardchoilleI was just wondering where to find it in my install18:44
ardchoillegenii: Ah, ok, maybe they meant it would be in a repo18:44
F_MOopsie, CDBurnerXP needs .NET, .NET needs SP218:44
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geniiardchoille: perhaps apt-cache search cnr-client18:45
epimethdrarem: I know it exists... don't know what it costs18:45
xeviousdrarem: the lightest would be another kde panel, because you're not loading up another program18:45
F_MAny way to go without CDs?18:45
xeviousF_M: you're trying to burn the iso?18:45
draremok i see there's a kasbar and something else-type panel18:45
vzduchF_M: what's the problem?  SP2 should be downloadable from places other than M$18:45
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ardchoillegenii: No joy search apt-cache18:45
vzduchI know I got a W2kSP4 from a third-party source a while ago18:46
F_MYes, I know, I did get a valid sp2 Windows from a... second hand one without SP before18:46
F_MI just thought there was something which doesn't need so many installs18:46
geniiardchoille: That is the name of the main package the CNR page lists in the 7.04 instructions. so must be the repo listed on that page and not a stock one18:46
F_MI'm not really planning to use this install after I got a linux installed18:47
xeviousf_m: i use this in windows: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm18:47
vzduchwhy not take a live CD in the first place?18:47
pomos_i try to compile amarok but the installation of the .deb fails due to error with amarok-xine packages. any idea hot to complile it?18:47
vzduchwould've been quite a bit easier, I guess, for downloading stuff ;)18:47
F_MI'm trying to burn the live CD, but them files...18:49
||arifaXxevious: I love http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/18:49
[Relic]is the flash-nonfree the same as downloading from the Adobe site?18:49
ardchoillegenii: yeah18:50
F_Mhmm, Infra looks hot.18:50
vzduch[Relic]: well, the pkg has the advantage of easy removal if need be18:50
xevious||arifaX: nice. good link. thanks18:50
xevious[Relic]: yeah18:50
[Relic]thanks  :)18:50
vikke_hello, im using edgy, can I find the unsupported and experimental plugins for compiz fusion in apt?18:51
xevious||arifaX: that's like virtual nero218:51
xevious||arifaX: aka before they started adding useless stuff18:51
Vermuxkopete just crushed with no warning!18:51
Vermuxwhy kopete crushes? it is not the first time it happans18:53
sub[t]rnlcrashed when connecting to msn?18:54
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes18:54
sub[t]rnlVermux: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb18:54
sub[t]rnlmake sure you have the latest kdelibs18:54
pomos_dont conect to msn through kopete. it crashes me too18:54
sub[t]rnlpomos_ you too18:54
pomos_oh, ok.18:55
[Relic]it is listed but I am wondering if the v7 that was installed is interfereing with it since the site I wanted to access still says I need the latest18:56
ardchoilleWho is Jonathan Riddel? I see his name come up a lot.18:56
STaLiNWhen I'm doing trying to do the distr upgrade from 7.04 -> 7.10 I get the following message Failed to fetch http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/packages.gz 404 File not found18:56
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sub[t]rnllead developer of kubuntu18:57
jpnurmiargh, my cd-drive broke during installation. is it possible to install kubuntu from an usb-stick or something?18:57
somirancan some one tell what is meant by flashing cdma mobile phone and how to do it?18:58
ardchoillesub[t]rnl: Ah, ok18:58
vzduchsomiran: why do you want to do something that you don't know what it is?18:59
fdovingsomiran: probably re-installing the software on a cellphone, usually nothing you want to do yourself unless you atleast know what it is.18:59
somiranbcoz my phone is permanently hanged18:59
F_MAny tips on which burn mode I should use? [sao/tao/raw]18:59
somiranand i want to give a try myself18:59
somiranyes i want to know what is it19:00
Vermuxso why kopete  crushes with no reason sometimes?19:00
somiranyes i want to know how to reinstall the software19:01
somiranto my phone19:01
somiranhello vzduch19:02
ardchoilleVermux: There's a known bug that causes kopete to crash when connecting to msn19:02
somirancan some one help me plz19:03
Linoobmaybe use pidgin instead of kopete ?19:05
pomos_how can i compile amarok?? Should i complile the amarok-xine too?19:05
Linoobbut dont know if pidgin use phone19:05
||arifaXhey give me your msn account and I will try out with my pidgin :)19:06
tehkAnyone know of a qt front end for tracker?19:07
Vermuxardchoille: and what can be done about that?19:07
||arifaXtehk: what is tracker?19:07
tehk||arifaX: meta information and desktop search system19:08
||arifaXI see19:08
somiranplease help if some one knoe mobile phone flashing19:09
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MurielGodoitehk: http://trac.edgewall.org/ That is the whole system.. not just the front-end.. but maybe ca nhelp you19:09
blubbhow can I install latest ati-driver from today? It has aiglx support!!!19:10
MurielGodoitehk: that is used by olpc project :)19:10
tehkMurielGodoi: thanks anyway but thats trac the project management/tracker system. I am talking about 'Tracker' the desktop search daemon19:10
tehkIts defualt on Ubuntu Gutsy, and is independent of DE so I am using it on kubuntu, just need a front end to avoid gtk :)19:11
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MurielGodoitehk: sorry,  I was thing that you wanna a project management system :)19:12
ardchoilleVermux: Wait for a bugfix?19:14
crazy6just curious, anyone successfully running AIGLX & CompizFusion on the 'radeon' open source driver? or should I not waste my time trying?19:14
Nergaranyone melting because kde4?19:15
NergarI mean  WOW!19:15
crazy6is KDE4 available now?19:15
vistakillerATI driver with fglrx is out!!!19:15
JohnFluxcrazy6: not for another few months19:15
vistakilleraiglx sorry19:15
NergarI am a gnome user but I dont think it will stay that way19:16
Tm_Tcrazy6: as beta19:16
crazy6hrm ok19:16
crazy6blast it all, this laptop has an ATI chipset, and it seems that compiz, etc isn't terribly easy to get working on that, even with 7.10 ...19:17
F_MAll right, Infra just froze, probably killed a RW CD19:17
tribunlokihallo zusammen19:21
tribunlokiich bin neu hier19:21
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tribunlokihi snow19:22
snowdonkeyHey tribunloki19:22
||arifaXpeace tribunloki19:22
tribunlokialso ich bin neu... neu mit Linux...19:22
snowdonkeyAnyone know how to change the default file manager from Dolphin to KDE?19:22
tribunlokiheute versuche ich meinen Einstieg19:22
snowdonkeylol, to Konqueror19:22
||arifaXtribunloki: versuch mal mit    /join #kubuntu-de   in den deutschen channel zu wechseln19:23
herowhat application does one use to change the kdm theme?19:23
MetaMorfoziShero apt-get install kdmtheme19:23
MetaMorfoziSthats adds a new menu to your kcontrol (under the system foo)19:23
MetaMorfoziSthat enables you to change the themes19:23
herook, i have done that, but i can't seem to run it or find it anywhere19:24
emilsedghhero: SystemSettings->Advanced->Login Manager, i think19:24
MetaMorfoziSbut not bad if you know, you only need:19:24
heroso what file is the theme manager looking for?19:24
MetaMorfoziS- download & extract, and edit the /etc/kde3/kdmrc file (find the line that starts with "Theme=....")19:24
MetaMorfoziSthat's all19:24
pomos_how ca i disable the joins/quits at Konversation???????19:29
mmschneiI feel stupid for having to ask this but I set a hotkey to start konqueror, I want to remove it but I can't find it. I have poked around kcontrol's "keyboard shortcuts" dialog but I am not seeing it there. I could be missing it, but is there anywhere else I should be looking?19:32
kjellvizhi there19:32
kjellvizi just downloaded and installed 7.1019:33
kjellvizand when i search in adpet i cant find much of my normal applications19:33
kjellvizlike Opera or Kmess19:33
MurielGodoi Hi,  anyone knows how install the hp analog tv tunner device on Gutsy (1164:0601)?19:33
mmschneiopera is not part of kubuntu19:33
mmschneikjellviz: are you coming from another distro?19:33
soujirohola chicos19:34
kjellvizkinda but not really :P19:34
kjellvizive run ubuntu and pclinuxos19:34
kjellvizubuntu had opera in repos19:34
mmschneiWell Opera is not usually in the (K)Ubuntu repositories19:34
soujirohow can i install fglrx from .run for and build a pkg for gutsy?19:34
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kjellvizmaybe not in the supported repos no, but in the alternative repos at least19:35
mmschneikjellviz: I am new around here too, but basically to install opera you need to find another repository that has it and then add it. There are instrucitons online if you google. Sorry I am not of more help, I ahve that on my todo list as well.19:35
kjellvizand kmess was in kubuntu repos im sure19:35
mmschneiWhat is kmess?19:35
kjellvizkde messenger (msn)19:35
mmschneilet me see if I have it in mine19:35
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mmschneiit is showing up for me and as of right now I don't think I have adeded any19:36
mmschneilooks like it is part of Universe19:36
mmschneihave you enabled that?19:37
kjellvizsec ill check19:37
kjellvizhmmm can find "universe" anywhere19:37
mmschneiare you using adept?19:37
kjellvizin "Edit Software Sources" right ?19:37
mmschneiLet me figure this out, I've been using synaptic, I just liked the layout better for being a newb.19:38
epimethhrm.... better to upgrade according to whats on the site or to manually edit sources.list to gutsy? and apt-get dist-upgrade ?19:38
mmschneiepimeth: I'd guess go with whats on the site, I doubt.19:39
mmschneiI doubt that they'd make it better for manually upgrading19:39
mmschneibut once again.... total n00b here, at least to ubuntu19:39
kjellvizlol ssry mmschnei19:39
mmschneigot it19:39
kjellvizive activated universe rep yes19:39
mmschneiand no kmess still?19:39
kjellvizi just now found out its in () at the end of the repos names ><19:40
kjellviznope, no kmess19:40
mmschneistill in the software sources window19:40
kjellvizim thinking it might be wrong tbh19:40
kjellvizyeh ?19:40
mmschneiin the Third-Party software tab what do you have enabled?19:40
kjellvizall 319:40
kjellvizcdrom is one of them19:41
kjellvizsome archive at canonical19:41
mmschneiok, I only have the middle one, no need for source and I'd prefer not to have it prompt me for the disc19:41
kjellvizand same only sources19:41
mmschneibut that shoudln't matter19:41
mmschneinot sure yet19:41
mmschneilet me poke around another minute here19:41
mmschneion the first tab, "Kubuntu Software"19:42
[ifr0g]What id i want to set the font size between 7 and 8 ??19:42
mmschneiwhere is "Download form:" set to?19:42
kjellvizmain server19:42
CPrgmSwR2Hi, I just downloaded and installed fglrx 8.42.3, but how do I enable xcomposite?19:42
mmschneiI have mine on US, not sure if you're a US user, and honestly that shouldn't make a difference, but lets go ahead and give it a shot.19:42
kjellvizim EU user, but ill try =)19:42
mmschneimake sure to "fetch updates" after you click close on that window.19:43
mmschneiwell nm19:43
kjellvizye did that, still no kmess19:43
mmschneiit prompts you to reload, do that.19:43
kjellvizbut funny part is19:43
kjellvizwhen i search for kmess19:43
The_Machinemy front speakers in kmix are only at 75% each time KDE starts.  How can i make it so they automatically start at 100% volume?19:43
kjellvizit lists Internet on the left hand side19:43
kjellvizas if it knows its a internet applicaiton19:44
mmschneiyeah, thats kinda odd19:44
kjellvizit just dont wanna show me it ^^19:44
mmschneilet me check a few more things here19:44
mmschneithis is in adept_manager?19:44
kjellvizok thansk for the help so far =D19:44
kjellvizAdept Installer19:44
mmschneiI think you are using the old version some how19:44
mmschneioh ok19:44
mmschneilet me load that19:44
mmschneiodd, that command loads syanptic for me19:45
kjellvizohh maybe this is relevant; i have just installed Kubuntu, not downloaded any updates19:45
mmschneigo ahead and try that.19:46
kjellvizwill do19:46
mmschneiliek nothing at all, just literally installed a few mins ago? not tried installing much other software yet?19:46
kjellvizi got scared of updating thru adept on a earlier attempt on using kubuntu19:46
kjellvizinstalled last night, searched adpet for kmess, could not find, turned off comp and now im here19:46
kjellvizso havent installed anything yet19:47
mmschneiyeah, sounds like you just need the initial update then19:47
kjellvizwe'll see19:47
mmschneiit doesn't have the repositories cached yet to know where to find it.19:47
kjellvizlast time i updated with adept it mesed up my install ><19:47
kjellvizlost bluetooth19:47
kjellvizw000t 0o19:47
mmschneiI like the sound of htat.19:48
kjellviznew distriibution version avail it says19:48
mmschneiits ok19:48
mmschneigo ahead19:48
mmschneiI had the same thing happen19:48
mmschneiit seemed odd19:48
kjellvizbut, 7.10 is laters right ?19:48
mmschneiI think its just an update of some of the core utils from the release version19:48
kjellvizok while waiting for that19:48
mmschneiI think they kinda rushed it19:48
mmschneibut I could be wrong.19:49
kjellvizdo u know how to use kde4? (was trying on another user account but could only find 3.5)19:49
mmschneinot sure off hand, I know there are a few guides out there on the net.19:49
kjellvizkk will google on that19:49
mmschneiI just got installed a few days ago and I am still slowly trackign down all of my bugs too, thats on my todo list as well19:49
kjellvizhehe ok19:50
mmschneiI can't believe that KDE4 is slated for Dec-11th I have been watching the development of it for literally years now.19:50
Cannoliwhats the linux equivelent of mspaint?19:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mspaint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:50
mmschneiCannoli: are you looking for something real basic? there are some good more advanced prog's out there19:50
mmschneifor free19:50
sub[t]rnlCannoli: xpaint?19:50
sub[t]rnl!info xpaint19:50
ubotuxpaint: simple paint program for X. In component universe, is optional. Version (gutsy), package size 386 kB, installed size 1340 kB19:50
Tm_T!info tuxpaint19:51
ubotutuxpaint: A paint program for young children. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.17-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 149 kB, installed size 388 kB19:51
mmschneiwell there ya go guys =)19:51
kjellvizye kde4 seems real good19:51
Cannolithe advanced one is called gimp?19:51
sub[t]rnli say use gimp19:51
mmschneiCannoli: yeah, thats the most commmon one19:51
Tm_TGimp or Krita19:51
mmschneiCannoli: it might be too much if you jsut want to doodle or for kids19:51
Cannolinah i was gonna install it either way19:51
n8k99tuxpaint for kids to doodle19:51
Cannolibuti have time now19:51
Cannoliso wht not19:52
mmschneiCannoli: GIMP comes somewhat close to photosohp19:52
Cannoliwhy not*19:52
kjellvizmmschnei: u know what ?19:52
kjellvizit worked ^^19:52
mmschneikjellviz: awesome!19:52
n8k99my 2 yr old loves it, especially the way it plays sounds along with the painting19:52
mmschneikjellviz: I would change your sources back to non-US for speed19:52
kjellvizthanks for helping me finding the solution19:52
mmschneikjellviz: np =)19:52
kjellvizprob a good idea ye19:52
mmschneikjellviz: pay it forward, help someone else here someday =)19:52
kjellvizi do every day19:53
mmschneikjellviz: I just intalled Kmess, does this do webcam support?19:53
kjellvizexcept i get paid for it19:53
Cannolin8k99: how do u manage to keep ur n8k99 from smashing the keyboard, and opening random windows and stuff?19:53
kjellvizno idea, dont use it for those kind of things :P19:53
n8k99Cannoli: she has her own computer19:53
mmschneikjellviz: ah, well why not use pidgin? (just curious)19:53
n8k99and her account does not have sudo so there's nothing that she can do to mess it up19:54
kjellvizmmschnei: cos i like the gui on kmess better, and i think pidgin is too gnomish19:54
mmschneikjellviz: good call.19:54
mmschneiI just use AIM, MSN, GTALK, and Y! every day and I dont like kopete so I am using gaim.19:54
mmschneierr Pidgin now I guess.19:54
n8k99Cannoli: an old Dell that can run edubuntu is all she needs now19:54
Cannolin8k99: i have a 20month old bro, can i set up an account that doesnt have sudo on this pc for him?19:54
kjellvizmmschnei: i actually preferred gaim over pidgin19:54
morphinexI'm trying to do some file management w/ konqueror, how can I grant myself the ability to write to all directories?19:55
mmschneikjellviz: yeah I kinda do to19:55
n8k99yes when you set up a new user, that account doesn't have sudo automatically19:55
morphinex... other than starting it with kdesu from the command line19:55
mmschneibut I figure pidgin is the future of it, might as well get used to it.19:55
Cannoliso wht can that account do19:55
Cannolicause i dont want him totally distroying my pc19:55
Cannolilike even on a limited account on windows he manages to like shut it down or open a billion programs19:55
kjellvizmmschnei: ye ofc, gaim aint getting updates so... but i only use msn and occasionally skype19:56
kjellvizso kmess works fine for me =)19:56
mmschneiHey guys, I cannot type a capital "c" with shift + c, just capslock <on> + c. I have mapped it to something stupidly, is there a quick way to check?19:56
n8k99Cannoli: well the basic set up is really different between the two OSes19:56
n8k99Cannoli: but she is relatively safe in her account19:56
Cannolilets say u had more programs installed though19:57
Cannoliwould she be able to open them and mess around with those?19:57
n8k99Cannoli: I'd recommend installing Gcompris as it has several boards that are at the right level for young kids19:57
kjellvizmmschnei: System settings - > Keyboard & mouse -> Shortcuts ?19:57
Cannolior shouldi just load up a livecd everytime he wants on the pc?19:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gcompris - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:58
kjellvizbrb need water =)19:58
mmschneikjellviz: hrmm, wonder if thats diff than kcontrols... kjellviz can you get me the command acutally excuted when you click on system settings? (I've remmapped mine from that prog to kcontrol)19:58
n8k99if he has his own account which does not have sudo, there is nothing that he can really do to the system19:58
Cannolii think i broke the bot XD19:58
n8k99and he's data will be separate from your data, cause they are in different directories19:59
Cannoliso whts the worse he can do :S20:00
kjellvizmmschnei: humm not sure where to go about to find that out ><20:00
mmschneikjellviz: right click on it, click edit20:00
jpnurmican i install kubuntu from an usb-stick somehow?20:00
kjellvizheh found it ye ><20:00
kjellvizsystemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m20:00
Cannolilike he cant delete stuff, he cant install stuff,20:00
n8k99Cannoli: really not much20:00
Cannolialright, thanx n8k9920:00
n8k99other than physical damage to t eh keybd20:00
n8k99your welcome20:01
Cannoliimma set up an account for him now20:01
Cannolihahah yea20:01
Cannolicrazy little ankle biter20:01
mmschneikeybashmaniac: thanks20:01
mmschneikjellviz: thanks20:01
n8k99that's why we set up one with a kids kybd/mouse and a really bulletproof monitor!20:01
kjellvizhey np =)20:01
Cannolii think i have one downstairts20:02
mmschneihrmm, same dialog, not seeing anything bound to shift + c20:02
Cannoliwe just dont have room20:02
Cannoliand tht would bring total # of pcs up to 420:02
mmschneibulletproof monitor eh?20:02
keybashmaniachey anytime anyone wants to randomly thank me - thats OK :)20:02
Cannolithanx keybashmaniac20:02
mmschneiThe monitor I am using has a bullet hole in it.20:02
Cannoli<3 u20:02
n8k99yeah we tested it even! :P20:02
mmschneithankfully its just a secondary monitor20:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:07
endryushallo all. I have the following error during update "Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/Release Unable to find expected entry  feisty-commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"20:08
endryussomeone can help?20:08
CPrgmSwR2Has anyone tried the new ati drivers yet?20:08
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web_knowsanyone using amarok on 7.10? gusty gibbon..20:11
web_knowsI mean, musicbrainz lookup is not working anymore20:11
n8k99web_knows: at the moment, yes20:11
web_knowssince the upgrade from feisty fawn20:11
web_knowsit never finds the track on musicbrainz20:11
The_Machinei'm using marok on 7.1020:13
The_Machinemy front speakers in kmix are only at 75% each time KDE starts.  How can i make it so they automatically start at 100% volume?20:13
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wertyim havivng the same problem20:17
wertywith the speakers20:17
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.20:23
ScorpKinghi eric :)20:23
* ScorpKing munches and wonder what happened to everyone...20:24
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ScorpKingi get 50KB/s with my wireless when i copy files to my server. is that normal?20:29
trilobitI have a very strange Problem with the update feisty->gutsy on a HP dx 5150 (Radeon X300) the xorg.conf seems to be fine but wenn the xserver starts up it seems that the xserver thinks to have only a 640x400 resolution monitor. the effect ist very strange I can use the hole manitor with the usual 1280 x 1024 @ 60 H only but al drop down menues and so one...only use the 640x400 angle on the lefttop20:29
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trilobitin the system settings in the monitor menue the resolution is also fix at 640x40020:31
ScorpKingi have that same problem on another box but with feisty.20:31
trilobitnote in the xorg.conf you can not find any resolution except 1280 x 1024 @ 60 so it doesn't seem to be a problem of xorg.conf20:33
werty i cannot install google earth on kubuntu.what can i do?20:34
ptfd9100anyone using foo2zjs drivers?20:34
romulooif i uninstall my Kaffeine (very problems), the other libs will be removed too?20:35
ScorpKingtrilobit: there might be a xorg.conf in your home dir.20:35
romuloobecause the kubuntu-desktop is marked to remove20:35
romulooon adept20:35
blendtuxnevermind romuloo, kubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage20:35
blendtuxno other pacakges will be removed20:36
blendtuxyou can afterwards apt-get install kubuntu-desktop if you like20:36
ubotuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.20:36
blendtuxdo you understand romuloo20:37
blendtux!metapackage | romuloo20:37
uboturomuloo: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.20:37
romulooyeah :) i'm not afraid now20:38
trilobitScorpKing: the problem is that even the login screen has this strange behavior and I added allready a testaccount with the same result20:38
romuloothanks, blendtux and ubotu20:38
romuloomy kaffeine isn't working with xine...20:38
romulooit's veeeery slow and the screen is green o.O (my english is terrible)20:39
blendtuxromuloo: ubotu is a very nice bot20:39
ptfd9100anyone using foo2zjs drivers?20:39
romulooi'm using the totem and mplayer20:40
romuloohahahaha, great =D20:40
MaDiNfO_HELP changed video driver from flgx to VESA now my X is all mess up how can i put it back ?20:40
MaDiNfO_HELP changed video driver from flgx to VESA now my X is all mess up how can i put it back ?20:40
blendtuxoke madinfo20:41
ScorpKingMaDiNfO_: change it back to flgx20:41
MaDiNfO_ScorpKing how ?20:41
MaDiNfO_X now doesnt work20:41
Kr4t05Why doesn't Gutsy automatically mount my MP3 player? Feisty did.20:41
blendtuxdid you edited your xorg.conf by hand20:41
MaDiNfO_blendtux no20:41
MaDiNfO_it was by X config20:42
sub[t]rnlMaDiNfO_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg20:42
trilobitMaDiNfO_: first check in the /et/X1120:42
sub[t]rnlor do what blendtux said, and just edit it by hand20:42
crackhead_25question: i just created a new partition out of unallocated space on a hard drive. set it up. mkdir, etc. it's mounting fine. however, after i did this, i can't seem to see in my firewire ext hard drive (which previously was mounting fine). anyone know what might have gone wrong, or how i can make sure i can see inside the firewire and make sure it's working henceforth? (also, this afternoon i updated to feisty from edgy. not sure if20:42
crackhead_25that has anything to do with it.)20:42
ScorpKingtrilobit: what happens if you press <ctrl>+<alt>+<KB+>? does it cycle through all the available modes?20:42
trilobitif there is a olt xorg.con normaly there is a backup20:42
sub[t]rnlcrackhead_25: what are the mount points of your new partition and the external hard drive?20:43
ScorpKingtrilobit: sorry. ;) that is KeyPad +20:44
MorrisseyHi, does the new ipod nano work on amarok now?20:45
jarleI was reading that gutsy had some problems with unstable kernel the first days out, it it stable enough for update now?20:45
trilobitOk thats a nice hint I will try it tomorrow immediately. (it's my working pc)20:45
werty i cannot install google earth on kubuntu.what can i do?20:46
blendtuxwhat seems to be the problem werty20:46
ScorpKingwerty: how are you trying to install it?20:46
wertygoogle earth20:46
sub[t]rnlwerty: heh, you need to be more specific20:46
blendtuxdid you downloaded20:47
sub[t]rnlchmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin && ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin20:47
ScorpKingwerty: type those commands20:48
wertyok.. :)20:49
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wertynothing happens20:50
wertynothing happens20:50
sub[t]rnlare you in the directory of the .bin?20:50
wertyno you see i cannont even open the .bin file20:51
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sub[t]rnlwhats it say when you type the command I gave you20:51
sub[t]rnlshow me exactly what it said20:51
sub[t]rnlgreets Silviana20:51
werty@werty-laptop:~$ chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin && ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin20:52
wertychmod: cannot access `GoogleEarthLinux.bin': No such file or directory20:52
vbgunzanybody hear hissing/popping when an audio clip starts/stops in amarok? I never heard this before except on Gutsy :/20:52
sub[t]rnlwerty: go to the directory that it downloaded bub20:52
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wertyok dektop..20:52
sea4everAnyone know why my sound card is shown in lspci as "unclassified device" ??20:53
vbgunzyeah, I don't hear this popping/hissing in kaffeine but hear it in Amarok and in system notifications20:53
wertywhen i click it opens with kate20:53
sub[t]rnlwerty: cool20:53
sub[t]rnlthough, thats not what we want to do20:53
Silvianai am trying to install new gutsy from cdrom, and it gets as sleep (without going on) at the pre-last step20:53
sub[t]rnlwerty: cd ~/Desktop;chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin && ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin20:54
sub[t]rnlrun that from konsole20:54
AT0M1CB0MB3R!hi | everybody20:54
ubotueverybody: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:54
* ScorpKing waves at AT0M1CB0MB3R..20:55
wertyinstallation started..20:56
AT0M1CB0MB3RScorpKing: HEY!!! whatup20:56
esperegudoes kubuntu also use compiz?20:57
sub[t]rnlesperegu: not by default, but yeah20:58
esperegusub[t]rnl: I can I try it?20:58