=== cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [06:37] hey all.. hows everyone tonight? [06:38] would this be the place to mention iusses i've had with the installer? [06:39] hi zandos, file a bug on launchpad [06:39] this channel is more for development purposes [06:39] the installer team regularly triages all the bugs filed [06:40] rite on i'll file that bug.. thanks [09:10] is there a way to preseed partman to use crypted disks? The documentation doesn't mention that [09:15] ah, found it [09:16] partman-auto/method [09:16] but crypto is not mentioned as an option for gutsy [10:25] cjwatson, when you have time can you please have a look at lupin-support gutsy? [10:26] I have added the files required to make loopinstallations boot/unboot [10:26] I hope I did not my messed up tha package too badly (first one for me, so be kind). [10:27] The plan is to use overrides to replace the package available on the ISO with this one [10:30] For hardy, the changes in lupin-support should hopefully be incorporated upstream [11:12] I had a few reports of system hangs while copying files. What is the status of unionfs? [11:13] Bug #138915 is still triaged [14:27] regarding bug #156042, is there a way to preseed the driver which will be configured in xorg.conf? [14:33] that's up to the X maintainer scripts [14:34] there used to be, but you'd have to ask them [14:34] if it's still how it used to be, the installation guide has the necessary information [14:35] cjwatson, did you see my previous messages? [14:37] you should ask the kernel team about unionfs, not here [14:37] lupin I'll look at when I have time, but only with an eye to hardy [14:38] well, as mentioned, for hardy the stuff in lupin should be moved upstream [14:38] lupin now is mostly a workaround for bugs in current gutsy code [14:39] re hangs I was wondering if you had any new reports about problems while copying files after the final release [14:40] not that I've seen but I have mainly been concentrating on UDS [14:40] evand may know more [14:41] at least some of lupin I'm not convinced will ever be appropriate for mainline - the sysctl stuff [14:42] talking about UDS, can you approve the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/installer-for-windows [14:42] re sysctl, it could use a conditional switch: if on loopinstallation do this otherwise skip [14:43] approved for uds-boston-2007 [14:43] thanks [14:45] [ -x "$(/usr/lib/lupin/host_device)" ] && [ -n "$(/usr/lib/lupin/host_device)" ] || exit 0 [14:45] -x /usr/lib/lupin/host_device that is [14:46] I haven't noticed any new bugs regarding unionfs nor have I seen issues myself. Given the changes the kernel team made, I've considered the situation resolved. [14:48] Hmm strange. [14:53] evand, If I wanted to make Ubiquity install my custom lupin-support package as opposed to the one on the ISO, what route would be preferrable? [14:54] consider that I can override the files on the ISO [14:54] why not remaster the CD with the custom lupin-support? [14:55] Because I do not want to destribute my own ISOs just for a package :P [14:55] distribute [14:55] ah, right [14:55] There is an override mechanism in place, that allows to change files of a stock ISO before the Live CD boots [14:56] I can of course install the package using success_command [14:57] if you're using ubiquity it needs to get added to the manifest, otherwise it will be removed. [14:58] that's assuming you intend to put it in before the install starts [14:58] as you say, you could use success_command. I'm not sure if there's really a "best way" here. [14:59] I was thinking of overwriting pool/l/lupin-support but then what other files do I need to change? md5checksum? [15:01] erm, I believe you also need to change the Packages file. [15:02] nice, I'll have a go tonight. [15:03] $ test -x ""; echo $? [15:03] 1 [15:03] you don't need that [ -n ] [15:03] yeah corrected that in next line, the second part though you need -n [15:04] since host_device will return a string only if on a loopmount [15:04] oh I see, I misunderstood your correction [15:09] [15:10] The file /lib/lupin/host_device is in the new lupin-support/gutsy files [15:11] It is convenient to factor it out so that we can change our definition of host_device/loopmounts without changinging other code. [21:15] evand: would you register a spec for hardy-ubiquity-usability and propose it for UDS, please? [21:16] evand: my notes are as follows, but feel free to add other stuff of your own [21:16] will do [21:16] Incorporate the output of usability reviews of Ubiquity. Include [21:16] also: [21:16] * fixes for auto-resize text [21:16] * general autopartitioner revamp (ue-partitioning-tool) [21:16] * UTC/local question [21:16] * allow use of smaller screen size [21:16] oem-config has much the same UI and may benefit from the same [21:16] reviews. [21:16] should I also ping the tech board and ask for approval? [21:16] just ping me [21:16] will do [21:16] I can do it now [21:17] evand: have you also read through http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/ and prepared for the things with your name attached to them? if so, now would be a good time to do so [21:17] er, "if not" [21:17] also, while I have you here, are there any specific main merges that you'd prefer I don't take [21:17] wrt the installer [21:17] none that I prefer you don't take [21:17] cjwatson: yes, I have been keeping trakc of it [21:17] ok [21:17] I did a batch yesterday and today to try to get ahead a bit [21:18] probably quite a few left though [21:18] indeed there are [21:19] of the current list, I've done anna, and partman-basicfilesystems should wait until the version I uploaded to Debian today is available in the bzr branch [21:19] clock-setup has a lot of interesting changes and needs some care [21:19] actually, I should probably do console-setup [21:21] and I synced libdebian-installer [21:21] I don't see anything else of special note [21:21] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardy-ubiquity-usability [21:21] ok [21:22] approved, thanks [21:22] ah, you successfully lobbied to get the permissions changed, I see. [21:24] I did