[06:37] <zandos> hey all.. hows everyone tonight?
[06:38] <zandos> would this be the place to mention iusses i've had with the installer?
[06:39] <superm1> hi zandos, file a bug on launchpad
[06:39] <superm1> this channel is more for development purposes
[06:39] <superm1> the installer team regularly triages all the bugs filed
[06:40] <zandos> rite on i'll file that bug.. thanks
[09:10] <tepsipakki> is there a way to preseed partman to use crypted disks? The documentation doesn't mention that
[09:15] <tepsipakki> ah, found it
[09:16] <tepsipakki> partman-auto/method
[09:16] <tepsipakki> but crypto is not mentioned as an option for gutsy
[10:25] <xivulon> cjwatson, when you have time can you please have a look at lupin-support gutsy?
[10:26] <xivulon> I have added the files required to make loopinstallations boot/unboot
[10:26] <xivulon> I hope I did not my messed up tha package too badly (first one for me, so be kind).
[10:27] <xivulon> The plan is to use overrides to replace the package available on the ISO with this one
[10:30] <xivulon> For hardy, the changes in lupin-support should hopefully be incorporated upstream
[11:12] <xivulon> I had a few reports of system hangs while copying files. What is the status of unionfs?
[11:13] <xivulon> Bug #138915 is still triaged
[14:27] <cr3> regarding bug #156042, is there a way to preseed the driver which will be configured in xorg.conf?
[14:33] <cjwatson> that's up to the X maintainer scripts
[14:34] <cjwatson> there used to be, but you'd have to ask them
[14:34] <cjwatson> if it's still how it used to be, the installation guide has the necessary information
[14:35] <xivulon> cjwatson, did you see my previous messages?
[14:37] <cjwatson> you should ask the kernel team about unionfs, not here
[14:37] <cjwatson> lupin I'll look at when I have time, but only with an eye to hardy
[14:38] <xivulon> well, as mentioned, for hardy the stuff in lupin should be moved upstream
[14:38] <xivulon> lupin now is mostly a workaround for bugs in current gutsy code
[14:39] <xivulon> re hangs I was wondering if you had any new reports about problems while copying files after the final release
[14:40] <cjwatson> not that I've seen but I have mainly been concentrating on UDS
[14:40] <cjwatson> evand may know more
[14:41] <cjwatson> at least some of lupin I'm not convinced will ever be appropriate for mainline - the sysctl stuff
[14:42] <xivulon> talking about UDS, can you approve the https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/installer-for-windows
[14:42] <xivulon> re sysctl, it could use a conditional switch: if on loopinstallation do this otherwise skip
[14:43] <cjwatson> approved for uds-boston-2007
[14:43] <xivulon> thanks
[14:45] <xivulon> [ -x "$(/usr/lib/lupin/host_device)" ] && [ -n "$(/usr/lib/lupin/host_device)" ] || exit 0
[14:45] <xivulon> -x /usr/lib/lupin/host_device that is
[14:46] <evand> I haven't noticed any new bugs regarding unionfs nor have I seen issues myself.  Given the changes the kernel team made, I've considered the situation resolved.
[14:48] <xivulon> Hmm strange.
[14:53] <xivulon> evand, If I wanted to make Ubiquity install my custom lupin-support package as opposed to the one on the ISO, what route would be preferrable?
[14:54] <xivulon> consider that I can override the files on the ISO
[14:54] <evand> why not remaster the CD with the custom lupin-support?
[14:55] <xivulon> Because I do not want to destribute my own ISOs just for a package :P
[14:55] <xivulon> distribute
[14:55] <evand> ah, right
[14:55] <xivulon> There is an override mechanism in place, that allows to change files of a stock ISO before the Live CD boots
[14:56] <xivulon> I can of course install the package using success_command
[14:57] <evand> if you're using ubiquity it needs to get added to the manifest, otherwise it will be removed.
[14:58] <evand> that's assuming you intend to put it in before the install starts
[14:58] <evand> as you say, you could use success_command.  I'm not sure if there's really a "best way" here.
[14:59] <xivulon> I was thinking of overwriting pool/l/lupin-support but then what other files do I need to change? md5checksum?
[15:01] <evand> erm, I believe you also need to change the Packages file.
[15:02] <xivulon> nice, I'll have a go tonight.
[15:03] <cjwatson> $ test -x ""; echo $?
[15:03] <cjwatson> 1
[15:03] <cjwatson> you don't need that [ -n ]
[15:03] <xivulon> yeah corrected that in next line, the second part though you need -n
[15:04] <xivulon> since host_device will return a string only if on a loopmount
[15:04] <cjwatson> oh I see, I misunderstood your correction
[15:09] <xivulon>  
[15:10] <xivulon> The file /lib/lupin/host_device is in the new lupin-support/gutsy files
[15:11] <xivulon> It is convenient to factor it out so that we can change our definition of host_device/loopmounts without changinging other code.
[21:15] <cjwatson> evand: would you register a spec for hardy-ubiquity-usability and propose it for UDS, please?
[21:16] <cjwatson> evand: my notes are as follows, but feel free to add other stuff of your own
[21:16] <evand> will do
[21:16] <cjwatson>          Incorporate the output of usability reviews of Ubiquity. Include
[21:16] <cjwatson>          also:
[21:16] <cjwatson>           * fixes for auto-resize text
[21:16] <cjwatson>           * general autopartitioner revamp (ue-partitioning-tool)
[21:16] <cjwatson>           * UTC/local question
[21:16] <cjwatson>           * allow use of smaller screen size
[21:16] <cjwatson>          oem-config has much the same UI and may benefit from the same
[21:16] <cjwatson>          reviews.
[21:16] <evand> should I also ping the tech board and ask for approval?
[21:16] <cjwatson> just ping me
[21:16] <evand> will do
[21:16] <cjwatson> I can do it now
[21:17] <cjwatson> evand: have you also read through http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/ and prepared for the things with your name attached to them? if so, now would be a good time to do so
[21:17] <cjwatson> er, "if not"
[21:17] <evand> also, while I have you here, are there any specific main merges that you'd prefer I don't take
[21:17] <evand> wrt the installer
[21:17] <cjwatson> none that I prefer you don't take
[21:17] <evand> cjwatson: yes, I have been keeping trakc of it
[21:17] <evand> ok
[21:17] <cjwatson> I did a batch yesterday and today to try to get ahead a bit
[21:18] <cjwatson> probably quite a few left though
[21:18] <evand> indeed there are
[21:19] <cjwatson> of the current list, I've done anna, and partman-basicfilesystems should wait until the version I uploaded to Debian today is available in the bzr branch
[21:19] <cjwatson> clock-setup has a lot of interesting changes and needs some care
[21:19] <cjwatson> actually, I should probably do console-setup
[21:21] <cjwatson> and I synced libdebian-installer
[21:21] <cjwatson> I don't see anything else of special note
[21:21] <evand> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardy-ubiquity-usability
[21:21] <evand> ok
[21:22] <cjwatson> approved, thanks
[21:22] <evand> ah, you successfully lobbied to get the permissions changed, I see.
[21:24] <cjwatson> I did