[00:03] pigs will have wings in the next version? [00:04] you have no idea what thats gonna do for my love life! [00:04] woohoo, we've been made popular [00:04] http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final [00:05] \o/ [00:06] someone going to answer that last guys question on there about the live cd? [00:13] 95 diggs...wow [00:15] hello [00:15] anyone home? [00:15] yep [00:15] little crysis right now === MythbuntuGuest29 is now known as redsix [00:15] whats up [00:15] hm....what is the root-password....doesnt take the sudo passwort ! [00:15] it should be whatever you sent for the first user [00:15] no its not... [00:16] if i wanted to upgrade or reinstall Mythbuntu and keep my recorded programs, what part of the db do i need to export, just the recorded table? [00:16] ok give us a minute, we have to deal with something [00:16] no prob....seen your website has some probs [00:17] I tried the entire db, but that caused some issues, although my recorded shows were there, it broke som eother functions... [00:18] would just the recorded table work? [00:22] ? [00:23] tafkaz, okay no root password on ubuntu distros [00:23] use sudo [00:26] superm1, i know... [00:27] the problem was that the keyboard at in xfce is still us [00:27] which is odd cause in the terminal it is right....german [00:27] so whenever i typed in the users sudo password i mispelled it without knowing that [00:28] but...now that i found out i can go on configuring ! ;-) [00:28] hi superm1 [00:28] tafkaz, that's really odd [00:28] i'm surprised laga didn't catch it [00:28] hi redsix [00:29] well....just in case your planning to release some bug fix...:-) [00:29] frink_, your box is holding up it would appear :) [00:29] tafkaz, can you file a bug after things calm down? [00:29] well later yes.... [00:30] but now we re all busy arent we ? :-) [00:30] superm1, if i wanted to reload then restore my recordings, do i need the entire db or just the recorded table? [00:30] redsix, well that depends on if you want old recording lists too [00:30] * directhex needs to magic an extra 500 words from somewhere for his article [00:30] nom just whats on the 2nd hd as recorded shows [00:31] superm1, what does old recordoing lists provide? re-record info? [00:31] can't you just copy over the actuall recorded shows, and not mess with the DB? [00:31] redsix, yeah [00:31] dont reallt need that, it will just re-record some stuff right? [00:34] superm1, you ever used knoppmyth? [00:35] redsix, i tried to install it in a vm once [00:35] but it never worked [00:35] superm1, was curious if adding the restart and shutdown menu items to mythbuntu would be hard, like in a "Power" menu item as options [00:36] redsix, its one of our specs for hardy [00:36] just wasn't addressed for 7.10 [00:36] sweet [00:36] definitely like the new mythbuntu theme. thanks to whoever did that up :) [00:36] pdragon, juski did :) [00:36] its based off his old "free" blootube [00:36] superm1, do you know if there are any plans for ReplayTV support? [00:37] redsix, not that i know of right now [00:37] if you want to write a spec for it though [00:37] go for it [00:37] $spec [00:37] http://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec [00:37] mythbot on vacation? [00:38] pdragon, mythbot never seems to stay alive [00:39] * superm1 glares at therethinker [00:46] superm1, i just reinstalled and now it seems like the backend isn;t starting automatically, any clues? [00:46] redsix, check /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [00:47] likely permissions [01:03] what key changes what tuner i am curently watching? [01:04] Y i think [01:06] ty [01:43] im having a weird problem here, not sure whats to blame for it either [01:44] but when i watch TV with a PIP and switch, the screen i was watching rewinds all the way to the beginning where i started watching it [01:45] of course you could blame this on my ever dieing HDD and ill believe it :) [01:47] PIP works? [01:48] * tgm4883 hasn't tried it in ages [01:48] well it works in the sense that i can watch another screen. jsut switching between during commercials is useless [01:49] what are these commercials you speak of? [01:49] :) [01:49] you know those annoying things you are forced to watch durring live tv.... [01:49] live tv, im drawing a blank [01:50] haha [01:50] do you seriously not watch live tv? [01:50] nope [01:50] no point :) [01:50] wha? [01:50] live tv? [01:50] eh? [01:50] live sporting events [01:50] i dont watch sports personally [01:50] so no [01:50] sports is not the same recorded [01:51] sports is way better recorded [01:52] well im watching chuck, and trying to switch to Monday night football during the commercials, but everytime i switch my PIP it goes all the way back to the beginning of chuck [01:52] hmm [01:52] no way, if i waited to watch sports they would be spoiled for me. my friends would ruin everything [01:52] tazgodx, thats why you only wait about 45 minutes [01:52] then start watching [01:53] and chuck and heroes, my friend watches, and sends me texts wanting to discuss parts with me [01:53] during the show, so if i don't watch it live, that is also spoiled for me [01:53] heh, I haven't tried PIP since MajorIdiot told me it didn't work [01:53] at that was at the begining of feisty [01:53] s/at/and [01:56] well, besides that one problem, it looks like it works for me [01:56] i've seeded 7GB in an hour [01:56] sweet [01:56] my u/l speed SUCKS i couldn't do that [01:57] now if i could just find a good benchmark for my Hard drive [01:57] i'm using my school's connection [01:57] I had to remote desktop in to do that [01:58] i want to get a better connection to do that [02:00] foxbuntu!!! [02:00] did you digg it? [02:00] http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_7_10_Release_Final [02:01] tgm4883 yes I did [02:01] ok [02:01] it's hard to tell [02:01] I see your back to being the Digg slut tonight [02:01] nope [02:01] not anymore [02:01] just to you [02:01] no need to :) [02:01] holy crap [02:01] :) [02:01] is our server dead yet? [02:01] thats awesome [02:01] no [02:02] our server is holding up very well [02:02] except for a small hiccup [02:02] that was our own fault [02:02] want to know something really awesome? [02:02] whats that? [02:03] I am like weeks away from filling my papers of Incoroporation [02:03] sweet [02:04] and we are going to smash our traffic records tonight [02:04] 1991 right now [02:04] already beat some [02:04] wild stuff [02:04] i think we beat the ISO d/l before we hit popular on digg [02:04] and hopefully tonight my stupid truck will be fixed [02:05] so its been a great day [02:05] wow almost a 50% dl rate today [02:05] thats impressive [02:06] yep [02:06] torrents are running great too [02:06] wow [02:07] arg we still don't have updated stats for most things :( [02:08] only through 4:00 CST [02:08] CST? [02:08] Central Std Time [02:08] is that what is short for Central Time? [02:08] ok [02:08] Wanted to be sure [02:08] yea [02:08] it think its that becuase I setup the acct [02:08] 55,411 total visiting since 9/10 [02:09] 222,203 page views [02:09] 200 more diggs to make the top 10 in tech [02:09] wow [02:09] and its only been there like 8 hours [02:14] tgm4883...uh you may want to look at the updated visitor numbers [02:14] it just updated [02:14] I just saw that [02:14] * tgm4883 jaw drops [02:14] we destroyed the records [02:15] * foxbuntu drools [02:15] look at the d/l [02:16] mine hasn't updated [02:16] 961 [02:16] still...holy crap [02:17] almost 6000 visitor tonight alone [02:17] thats insane [02:17] and we added 6 countries [02:17] foxbuntu, join -dev [02:18] we're looking over it in there === MythbuntuGuest21 is now known as stevetv [02:39] hello :) ... has something clever happened to the mythbuntu website and the forum? [02:39] like what? [02:40] stevetv, clever? [02:40] err.. well tgm i noticed you updated the mythbuntu page.. now it doesnt seem to fit on one page.. like the support button is on a different line. [02:41] if you're talking about the sweet new look then yes [02:41] hmm [02:41] looks alright to me [02:41] depends on the font that you have set for your web browser [02:41] whats clever about the forums? [02:42] and the forum seems way different.. wish i could post a frame grab. but there is a whole bunch of blue hyperlinks on the top of each page [02:42] maybe its just me.. cause the mythtv wiki seems screwy also.. [02:43] i wish you could too [02:43] because nothing was changed on the forum [02:43] does www.ubuntuforums.org look the same [02:44] its looks the same as the mythbuntu forum yes.. different to what it used to yes.. it must be my isp .. maybe theyre caching things differnet.. [02:44] http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshoter9.png [02:44] that is how they look for me [02:45] must be the sweetness of mythbuntu release [02:45] Mythbuntu - too powerful for the internet [02:45] only 223 people online right now [02:46] lol.. well its very different for me.. must be my isp. the bastards.. [02:46] tgm4883, remember everything on the website is 15 minutes delayed now [02:46] due to caching [02:46] stevetv, try restarting your web browser? [02:47] wait.. ill upload a screen shot.. just to applore that im not retarded.. [02:47] yup... done that.. i think ive got isp issues somehow [02:47] ah [02:52] naa... im not clever enough to upload a screenshot. im sure its just my isp.. [02:52] its not important anyway.. sorry to bother [02:54] ha .. works a treat using ms explorer.. my firefox settings must be screwy. [02:56] anyway.. tgm / superm1 .. im working on a script to automagically setup xmltv for australian users [02:56] stevetv, cool! [02:57] stevetv, that's be a great thing to include for 8.04 and put on the forums for people to use on 7.10 [02:57] i can write.. pretty much.. the script to run as a post install executable.. [02:58] stevetv, what language? [02:58] it just needs polishing.. but ill post it on the forum once its reasonable.. im not much of a programer [02:58] its python [02:59] stevetv, well if you abstract it well enough, perhaps it can grow into a generalized script [02:59] for people to use [02:59] and then eventually add on pyGTK gui to possibly [02:59] yes that was my hope [02:59] im not entirely sure.. possibly it could be improved to apply to other tv_grab_xx as well .. [02:59] yeah it can then become *the way* to setup xmltv :) [03:00] lol... [03:01] actually.. i won't bother asking you guys much.. the forums a good place for it so someone better than i can polish it up [03:04] stevetv, well if we rowl up some more python guys this friday [03:04] that can be something they might want to take up [03:04] can you right a spec for it? [03:04] *write [03:08] yeah .. im just about to get on a plane do fly to brisbane tho. I'm away till next wednesday. [03:09] I'm just post what i have on the forum next week ... i used it already.. it works fine.. ill leave it to someone with more than my over so slight skill to make it more user friendly [03:10] stevetv, okay sounds good [03:13] currently.. each user will need to modify the script to reprent their location of the .xmltv file .. so mine is /home/steve/.mythtv/"$SOURCENAME'.xmltv .. i can't figure out a way to automate that .. but im sure it's possible [03:14] anyway... i wont waste your time.. have fun. im on holidays as of now so i don't care about anything.. enjoy [04:16] superm1: how was your test today? [04:16] tritium, less than optimal actually. [04:16] oh, sorry to hear that. How about your interview? Or is that later this week? [04:16] tritium, that went pretty good. [04:16] Great! [04:17] The mythbuntu intsallation went very well for me with the alt key allowing me to re-position the ubiquity windows :) [04:17] tritium, there was a bug filed today about making ubiquity work on low res displays [04:17] so hopefully that ends up happening [04:17] so you dont need to do things like that [04:17] cool, did you file that? [04:17] but great that it worked [04:18] Yeah, thanks again :) [04:18] no someone else did. i get all the ubiquity bug mail [04:18] so i saw it fly by [04:18] cool [04:18] bug 155107 [04:18] if you want to subscribe to it [04:18] * superm1 kicks ubotu [04:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155107 [04:19] Thanks! [04:19] Only annoyance now is the slight overscan problem I have. [04:19] that can be adjusted in nvidia-settings in mcc [04:19] And I still need to enable XvMC [04:20] I'll work on that, but I've been unable to correct it to date. [04:20] hm [04:36] I'm thinking about installing the mail server task on the box... [04:38] tritium, i like that as an idea [04:38] like something that can email you when things go astray? [04:39] That's one idea, but mainly because all of my current email accounts are either forward-only, or webmail-only accounts. [04:39] I want to run my own server so I can use a mail client like evolution. [04:40] ah yeah [04:41] I have dyndns, so I believe I can do it. === MythbuntuGuest63 is now known as DrtyVicar [05:04] hello? can anyone paste the MD5? I was able to download the ISO but cant get the md5 to verify it. [05:04] sorry, the md5 for mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso [05:05] the md5 files should be posted on the website [05:05] is a download link for some reason & apparently it's now swamped... [05:05] yes it SHOULD be posted as text... [05:06] http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso.md5sum [05:07] it's impossible to be swamped... there's a pool of almost a dozen mirrors [05:07] did you bother to click on that? I get a blank tab & no test or download... still... [05:07] anyways, here's the text of the md5 file that I got when I clicked the link I just posted... [05:07] 4608c04122a65d828c3417f330e3eee0 mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso [05:07] yes I actually gave you the link, then clicked on it [05:07] can you tell me what mirror you're getting those errors from? [05:07] wierd I get nothing... been like that since 9:30 [05:08] what mirror is it trying? [05:08] when you click on the link, what is the location it tries to grab it from? [05:08] I cant tell. i just a blank tab with the address of http://www.mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso.md5sum [05:09] It might be this stupid windows machine... [05:09] can you do a shift+refresh of the main download page, and then try again? [05:09] sure brb [05:09] * MitoTranin is using a windows machine, using firefox [05:09] me too but this one is ready for reinstallation... [05:11] DrtyVicar, where are you located? [05:11] chicago [05:11] do you happen to know which mirror it was trying to d/l from? [05:11] ok I tried that IE too and disabling my firewall to boot no joy [05:12] how could i tell? [05:12] it would be in the address bar [05:12] looks something like this [05:12] http://us-az.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso.md5sum [05:12] it would be the [05:12] us-az part [05:12] http://www.mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso.md5sum is all it says [05:12] ok [05:13] and a little download box doesn't pop up? [05:13] it's opening in a new tab no no box, [05:13] i got the ISO ok [05:13] i should probally reboot & try again [05:14] this pos if getting pretty flaky [05:14] if = is [05:14] ok, let me know if it persists [05:14] I can't get it to duplicate here [05:15] good news is that the md5 is a match, Thanks! [05:15] I'll be darned if I can't get vnc or a remote myth frontend to work! [05:16] tritium: did you static the IP after enabling those options? [05:16] MitoTranin: yes [05:16] thaks 4 the help! I have to go play now [05:16] it's a bug that I found, and reported, that if you static the IP after making those options, then they no longer work [05:17] MitoTranin: did you find a work-around? [05:17] I had to do a reformat anyways for a different reason, so I didn't really work on it too much [05:17] and when I reformatted, the first thing I did was static the IP [05:17] then after that, I enabled the others, and it worked like a charm [05:18] as for the vnc I would suggest just disabling it and then re-enabling it [05:18] Shoot, I'm too far along to reinstall. [05:18] Did you try disabling/enabling in MCC? [05:19] I did, and it didn't work, but there were many other problems that I was having that could have had effect [05:19] that, and it was the beta, not release [05:19] so bugs have been fixed, etc [05:19] I'm working with the reelase. [05:19] so I would definitely try it [05:19] release* [05:19] I guess I will. [05:22] Disabling the MySQL service seems to have hung on "Configuring MySQL tweaks"... [05:24] tgm4883: any ideas? [05:25] tritium, hm that's not good. [05:26] tritium, did apport catch it? [05:26] or is it just sitting there [05:26] superm1: apport? [05:26] crash reporting service [05:26] I Ctrl-Ced it. Now I can't re-enable MySQL [05:26] No, it didn't. [05:26] tritium, can you launch it from a command line? [05:26] MCC? yes [05:26] /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre [05:26] like that [05:27] sudo /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre [05:27] actually [05:27] one sec... [05:27] hopefully catch a backtrace [05:27] okay [05:28] MySQL Server Information is all greyed out now on the MythTV Configuration tab. [05:28] is it still a master backend role? [05:28] oh not there. [05:28] the services tab [05:28] Primary Backend yes [05:29] MySQL Service is greyed out on that tab. [05:29] well that's really odd. [05:29] Can't do anything to that control. [05:29] can you check and make sure that mysql-server is still installed? [05:29] i wonder what you did to get it into this weird state [05:29] No, I saw it being uninstalled when I disabled it. [05:29] Just like vnc-server was uninstalled when I disabled that. [05:30] mysql-server-5.0 is installed [05:30] but not mysql-server [05:30] install mysql-server [05:30] but not mysql-server [05:30] what did you disable to cause it to be removed? [05:31] MySQL Service on the System Services tab [05:31] wow that's very odd [05:31] I thought so too, as was the removal of the vnc server package on disabling that. [05:31] well you probably should have just "reconfigured" it [05:32] not disabled it [05:32] Okay, had to quit/restart MCC, but it's there now. [05:32] reconfiguring didn't work, though [05:32] Still can't VNC to box. [05:32] it didn't? [05:32] Hm. [05:32] nope [05:32] you restarted X [05:32] after reconfiguring it? [05:32] No [05:32] haha [05:32] well that's it [05:32] Didn't know to. [05:32] it starts the vnc server as an X module [05:32] I see. [05:32] i guess that needs to be indicated [05:33] So, "MySQL Server Information" is still grayed out. [05:33] can you file a bug against MCC that a message telling you to restart needs to be put in place for multiple areas [05:33] What other areas? [05:34] well there are other similar situations [05:34] I can, but I'm only aware of the vnc case. [05:34] i anticipate [05:34] like changing autologin [05:34] or the autologin user [05:34] Okay. Now, should the mysql info be greyed out on the mythtv config tab? [05:35] is mythtv-database installed still? [05:35] yes [05:36] woah yuck i just tested that on my system. that is bad that you can remove the mysql server so easily [05:36] wow. [05:36] How did you test? [05:36] installed a master backend role [05:36] and then enabled the mysql service [05:37] can you file a bug about that too actually? [05:37] that disabling "MySQL service shouldn't remove mysql-server" [05:37] yes [05:37] now the thing is after changing that setting, it doesn't restart mysqld [05:37] so it odesnt take effect until you restart mysql or restart the comp [05:38] which is probably why it seemed like it wasn't working [05:38] (Another item that needs to be addressed) [05:38] I've tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database", which failed the first time. [05:39] I then "sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart", and then retried the above, which appeared to work. [05:39] still greyed out in mcc, though [05:40] well the only code that ungreys that checks to make sure "mysql-server" and "mythtv-database" [05:40] are installed [05:40] note that's mysql-server [05:40] not mysql-server-5.0 [05:40]