[00:23] <trypglyph_> yar.
[00:23] <ubotu> In ubotu, Snuxoll said: ignorance is biss
[00:24] <trypglyph> who among you is awake?
[00:24] <mneptok> no one
[00:24] <Pici> !botabuse > snuxoll
[00:24] <PriceChild> trypglyph, depends on the question :)
[00:24] <trypglyph> oh, you again.
[00:24] <trypglyph> 48 hour ban, hasn't expired yet, what's up?
[00:24] <PriceChild> oh no... not pricechild again
[00:24] <PriceChild> trypglyph, lemme take a look
[00:24] <Pici> ack! get him away!
[00:24] <PriceChild> (bans don't expire automatically)
[00:25] <trypglyph> (noted)
[00:25] <PriceChild> Trying to find the discussion we had where one of us agreed to 48 hours... telling me the nick you were on would speed it up ;)
[00:26] <trypglyph> adriyel
[00:26] <trypglyph> you actually initially said 1 or 2 hours, then changed your mind at the end and said 48 hours.
[00:26] <PriceChild> Because of your attitude iirc
[00:26] <trypglyph> if you change your mind on 48 hours I'm going to be a bit unhappy.
[00:26] <trypglyph> yes, that seems to be the central issue of all of it.
[00:26] <trypglyph> nonetheless, 48 hours.
[00:30] <PriceChild> trypglyph, ok sorry for the wait, I'm up to speed on things now.
[00:30] <PriceChild> trypglyph, have you read the ubuntu irc guidelines and/or Ubuntu CoC?
[00:30] <trypglyph> yes.
[00:31] <LjL-Temp> i'm sure he said we would *talk about it again* in 48 hours, not necessarily that it would be lifted.
[00:34] <PriceChild> trypglyph, do you agree to abide by the guidelines whilst participating in ubuntu channels?
[00:42] <Pici> Does someone want to invite mjr here to discuss further, or just let him continue in -offtopic?
[00:42] <LjL-Temp> Pici, we already had a flamewar about that once... pointless
[00:42] <LjL-Temp> but if you want to give it a try yourself, feel free. i'll just bit my tongue and try to avoid replying
[00:43] <Pici> I'm not replying either.
[00:44] <LjL-Temp> !o4o =~ s/Controversial topics/Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars/
[00:44] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, LjL-Temp said: !o4o =~ s/Controversial topics/Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars/
[00:44] <LjL-Temp> die a terrible death
[00:45] <LjL-Temp> %login
[00:50] <AndrewB> Hey, could anybody add either *!*@freenode/helper/*   or *!*@*/ubuntu.member.*
[00:51] <AndrewB> to #ubuntu-classroom
[00:51] <AndrewB> My ubuntu/member cloak had to be shortened to the end of my cloak.
[00:51] <nalioth> AndrewB -- always a troublemaker
[00:51] <AndrewB> hehe
[00:52] <stdin> the irc council should probably decide some sort of standard for dual-cloaks
[00:52] <AndrewB> stdin: how do you mean?
[00:53] <AndrewB> There is a standard..
[00:53] <PriceChild> stdin, well its freenode that does that? and it is a standard?
[00:53] <AndrewB> That I know of anyway..
[00:53] <nalioth> stdin: no, there _is_ a standard
[00:53] <PriceChild> stdin, "normally" though... people don't have ubuntu.member as secondardy ;)
[00:53] <stdin> when people have more than one cloak, like */*/ubuntu.member.* or ubuntu/member/*
[00:54] <AndrewB>  freenode/status/other.project.nick   or  project/status/nick   or  project/status/pdpc.donation.nick
[00:54] <nalioth> hmm
[00:54] <stdin> "something or something or something" isn't exactly a standard :p
[00:54] <nalioth> AndrewB: you still here?
[00:55] <AndrewB> Yeah nalioth why?
[00:55] <PriceChild> stdin, two types of cloak.... project/status/nick
[00:55] <nalioth> i figured you'd be checking out your access 
[00:55] <PriceChild> stdin, project/status/project.status.nick
[00:55] <AndrewB> thanks nalioth 
[00:55] <PriceChild> stdin, the status can be optional with some cloaks
[00:55] <stdin> PriceChild: exactly, but which project?status comes first?
[00:56] <PriceChild> stdin, whatever the user wants.
[00:56] <AndrewB> Freenode will always be first.
[00:56] <AndrewB> you never see any staff  gentoo/freenode.staff.nick
[00:56] <stdin> with freenode, I can understand it coming first
[00:56] <PriceChild> stdin, freenode and pdpc are the only ones that are allowed dual cloaks... and normally the order of preference is freenode > $project > pdpc
[00:57] <AndrewB> As far as i know you can't have like   gentoo/dev/ubuntu.member.nick   it is only freenode you can have..
[00:57] <AndrewB> yeah PriceChild thats what i mean
[00:57] <PriceChild> Although I don't see why a staffer wouldn't agree if for some reason I wanted pdpc before my ubuntu... not that I do :)
[00:58] <PriceChild> or if andrew wanted to swap his
[00:58] <nalioth> AndrewB is just a troublemaker.
[00:58] <PriceChild> Infact why do we even allow him here still?
[00:58] <AndrewB> If I had ubuntu/member/freenode.helper.andrewb   I would need to be alot more trouble.
[00:58]  * AndrewB cries
[00:58] <PriceChild> hehe :)
[00:59]  * mneptok throws a few spacebars
[00:59] <tonyyarusso> grrr, why doesn't Debian have a web interface for bug reporting?  Honestly...
[01:00] <stdin> bev
[01:00] <stdin> eh
[01:00] <stdin> because it's debian
[01:00] <stdin> when you can't type any more, it's time to sleep. so goodnight :)
[01:00] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: they do. it's called "flag upstream in Launchpad"
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: hehe
[01:00] <AndrewB> nalioth: do you think a wallop about ubuntu-openweek would be possible?
[01:01] <mneptok> network-wide?
[01:01] <mneptok> baaaaaad idea
[01:01] <mneptok> :)
[01:01] <nalioth> AndrewB: you mean there weren't enough people in there today?
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: If I do "also affects: Debian" in LP, will it auto-create the BTS entry, or do I have to file it there, then link it in LP?
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: We have done notices in #ubuntu only for some things in the past.
[01:03] <AndrewB> I wasn't there today nalioth :(  didn't realise it was even on untill I came accross a post on ubuntu-uk mail list
[01:03] <LjL> i didn't realize it was on until my "QUESTION:" highlight started showing up like mad
[01:06] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: last i knew it still involved Debian fiddling :/
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: bah, okay
[02:01] <ubotu> Toma- called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:02] <nalioth> here they come
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: o rly?
[02:03] <nalioth> already got hits from some of them
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> #$(@#%#@%^
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> I haven't loaded my scripts yet on this install
[02:09]  * tonyyarusso wishes there was just a chanmode for blocking CTCP everything
[02:10] <LjL-Temp> nalioth: the guys were registered, does +r still make sense?
[02:10] <nalioth> i've changed the passes of all the regged zombies from #ubuntu 
[02:10] <nalioth> all were regged within the last 10 minutes
[02:10] <nalioth> LjL-Temp: when i set +r, i did not know anything other than a bot swarm was building
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> oof
[02:10] <LjL-Temp> nalioth: sure i meant whether it made sense to *keep* it now
[02:10] <nalioth> yes, it does
[02:10] <LjL-Temp> heh look what a fancy nickname my proxy chose
[02:11] <nalioth> kt keeps out the unregged bots
[02:12] <LjL-Temp> nalioth: do you know how many they were? my backscroll is too short. they seemed to join quite quickly despite the +J
[02:12] <nalioth> going -R for now
[02:12] <nalioth> they were already here
[02:12] <nalioth> slowly trickling in
[02:14] <jrib> hmmm, did I miss the fun?
[02:14] <stdin> I counted about about 15
[02:14] <LjL-Temp> jrib: seems so
[02:21] <nalioth> ok, jrib kick 'em loose from -unregged
[02:21] <jrib> nalioth: even with the +J?
[02:22] <nalioth> jrib: if you /kick each one manually, it won't be affected
[02:22] <jrib> heh
[02:22]  * jrib makes note to add pause in script
[02:22] <nalioth> and the forward on -unregged will just kick 'em back into #ubuntu 
[02:26] <jrib> ah
[02:29] <nalioth> why do i keep smelling mutton . . 
[02:35]  * mneptok farts daintily
[02:53] <LjL-Temp> see -unregged
[02:53] <LjL-Temp> do someone else's logs confirm what i just asked?
[02:56] <LjL-Temp> [03:38:57] --> SiroSoriS has joined this channel (i=BlACKPOI@chrax6-b228.dialup.optusnet.com.au).
[02:56] <LjL-Temp> [03:39:10] <SiroSoriS> you kick my ass!
[02:56] <LjL-Temp> [03:44:37] --> wirechief_ has joined this channel (n=wirechie@65.114.105.164).
[02:56] <LjL-Temp> [03:51:09] <LjL> we do?
[02:56] <LjL-Temp> [03:51:47] <SiroSoriS> LjL, I will be the 1 2 3 U
[02:56] <LjL-Temp> [03:52:02] <LjL> i don't think i get you
[02:56] <LjL-Temp> [03:53:01] <LjL> SiroSoriS: how come you joined this channel, but you never seemed to be in #ubuntu at all?
[02:56] <LjL-Temp> [03:54:56] <SiroSoriS> delusions of grandure stripped away from me!
[02:57] <Pici> Was that before the attack?
[02:58] <LjL-Temp> Pici: no, right now
[02:58] <Pici> weird.
[02:58] <LjL-Temp> now it's [03:58:24]
[02:59] <LjL-Temp> banned from #ubuntu anyway, just to be sure.
[03:09] <trypglyph> hmm
[03:39] <ubotu> cdm10 called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:40] <ubotu> cdm10 called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:41] <ubotu> sco50000 called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:42] <jdong> wow, this teleport-to-opsed-channel trigger is quite fun :)
[03:43] <Pici> hmm?
[03:44] <jdong> Pici: my trigger that teleports me to a channel that ubotu reports ops was called in
[03:44] <Pici> jdong: neat.
[03:44] <jdong> 22:44    4 -publics -channels '#ubuntu-ops' -masks '*!*@ubuntu/bot/*' -regexp  'called the ops in (#.*bunt.*)' -command 'join $1' 
[03:44] <jdong> the effect is quite neat
[03:45] <Pici> What client are you using?
[03:47] <jdong> Pici: irssi
[03:47] <jdong> I roam around a lot and need something that I can access scrollback remotely
[03:47] <Pici> jdong: I've been looking for a way to use triggers, I didnt realize until just now that it was an external script.
[03:48] <jdong> Pici: yeah, it's trigger.pl :)
[03:48] <jdong> pretty neat script
[03:48] <jdong> only thing is I think it has some bug with trigger on mode-changes
[03:48] <jdong> it doesn't seem to always react
[03:48] <jdong> haven't had much of a chance to debug it
[03:50]  * mneptok notes that he can now force jdong  to /join channels
[03:50] <jdong> mneptok: still takes effort :)
[03:51] <jdong> I guess it's possible
[03:51]  * jdong tries
[03:51] <jdong> !test | foobar called the ops in #jdongbuntu
[03:51] <ubotu> foobar called the ops in #jdongbuntu: Failed.
[03:51] <jdong> aaaahhhh
[03:51] <jdong> yep
[03:51] <jdong> got forwarded to #jdongbuntu
[03:51] <ubotu> mneptok called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:52]  * jdong shakes fist at mneptok 
[03:52] <jdong> mneptok: use my way so you don't spam a channel :)
[03:52] <elkbuntu> heh
[03:52] <elkbuntu> jdong, let me guess, you use irssi :(
[03:52] <jdong> elkbuntu: yeah
[03:53] <jdong> elkbuntu: is that a bad thing? :)
[03:53] <Pici> I suppose I deserved that, or something.
[03:53] <elkbuntu> poop... yes, it means im going to have to try make it work in xchat
[03:53] <jdong> aww, I'm sure xchat has a triggering mechanism too?
[03:53]  * rob tries to decide if he should join in that peeing contest or not :)
[03:54] <Pici> Except it might happen right at the wrong time when someone is in the middle of writing a steamy message to someone and *poof* you've just said it to all of #ubuntu
[03:54] <elkbuntu> i'm pretty sure it does, but i cant seem to find it....
[03:54] <mneptok> i would *strongly* discourage use of any script that invokes any /command without user input
[03:54] <rob> isn't the point of scripts to run a bunch of commands?
[03:54] <mneptok> as you can see, any user in any channel in which ubotu resides can now force /join jdong
[03:55] <jdong> mneptok: is that a negative effect?
[03:55] <mneptok> jdong: depends on if having BL4CK0PS2007_XB0x in control of your client makes you nervous
[03:56] <elkbuntu> mneptok, heh since i just lost my job yesterday, it seems like a fun way to kill time waiting for another job to come around
[03:56] <mneptok> elkbuntu: too much leg-humping?
[03:56] <Pici> elkbuntu: oh no :(
[03:56] <jdong> mneptok: what's the worst that can happen from joining to a channel that ubotu resides in?
[03:56] <elkbuntu> mneptok, no, not enough
[03:56] <mneptok> jdong: it's the principle of it.
[03:57] <mneptok> jdong: there's no wayf i would let a freenode user type "/join" into my terminal. that script is basically the same thing.
[03:57] <jdong> mneptok: I understand that one can construct many very unsafe scripts from feeding random input into a command... but in this case I don't think it would lead to a problem
[03:57] <mneptok> jdong: i just have an older, better, thicker tin-foil hat ;)
[03:57] <Pici> mneptok: except that it only triggers on *buntu* channels
[03:57] <jdong> mneptok: is there anything dangerous that can happen if I joined a channel? any random chanel?
[03:58] <jdong> apart from those auto-kill thingies that I'm told "don't exist"
[03:58] <elkbuntu> mneptok, and hence is useful to those of us on the council who can kb whoever wrongly invites us to wherever
[03:58] <Pici> jdong: there are supposedly channels that will auto-kline you
[03:58] <mneptok> jdong: if you don't know, then why are you allowing it? ;)
[03:58] <Pici> but thats only a legend.
[03:58] <jdong> Pici: I'm pretty sure they don't match #*buntu* regex
[03:58] <Pici> jdong: I surely hope not!
[03:58] <rob> Pici, it's called auto-dline, and yes they exist
[03:58] <jdong> rob: what's the difference?
[03:59] <Pici> dns ban or something... I can't remember.
[03:59] <rob> dlines are a lot less resource-using then klines
[03:59] <jdong> ubotu probably wouldn't be in one, no? :)
[03:59] <rob> jdong, pretty unlikely
[03:59] <Pici> jdong: something tells me no one is in one for very long.
[03:59] <jdong> Pici: lol :)
[04:00] <jdong> rob: dlines still have the effect of banning your hostmask from the network, right?
[04:01] <rob> jdong, d:lines just drop connections that match and are server specific, k:lines kill and are global
[04:01] <jdong> rob: can you reconnect back to freenode after a d:line?
[04:01] <rob> you could connect to a different freenode server, yes
[04:02] <jdong> rob: but I would be banned from one of the servers in rotation?
[04:02] <Pici> maybe I was thinking of something else..
[04:02] <rob> unless of cause that d:line existed elsewhere too, they need to be set on a per-server basis
[04:02] <jdong> what is their lifetime?
[04:03] <rob> a d:line is like a k:line, its just a line in a configuration file. A k:line however has a timeout.
[04:04] <rob> d:lines are manual, usually until they are removed (note that k:lines can be manually added to a config file and be permanent too)
[04:04] <jdong> ok, that makes sense. one more thing, what is the rationale for those automatic dlining channels?
[04:04] <rob> jdong, botnets
[04:04] <rob> usually botnet control channels
[04:04] <jdong> mmm, so bots join a specific channel, and you tarpit that channel?
[04:04] <rob> yep
[04:04] <jdong> makes sense
[04:05] <rob> they are usually hard coded into the bots, and the bot runners too stupid or unable to change it (in the case of compiled off the self code)
[04:05] <Pici> ah. Makes sense.
[04:06] <jdong> ok, that makes a lot more sense why they exist now
[04:06] <rob> I'm glad I made sense :)
[04:06] <Pici> I thought it was just because you all had nothing better to do than make random channels for people to get k/dlined from.
[04:07] <Pici> But now I know.......
[04:07] <rob> hehe
[04:07] <jdong> hehe
[04:07] <jdong> "hey doofus, join this channel for a good time!"
[04:08] <rob> yeah.. well that is pretty rare.
[04:09] <rob> I don't think I have ever seen a case of someone stumbling upon one and doing that actually.
[04:09] <jdong> rob: but isn't/wasn't one of them like just a qwerty succession of keys, that someone could theoreitcally have arbitrarily picked as a test channel?
[04:10] <nalioth> jdong: when we catch people who do that, we treat them harshly
[04:10] <rob> jdong, it's been a while since I looked at the list, but unlikely
[04:10] <jdong> nalioth: I can imagine it's less than amusing to waste time dealing with those
[04:11] <rob> oh, and when I said d:lines are manual, they are automatic in the case of those channels :)
[04:11] <nalioth> jdong: i don't think you'll ever type a "querty succession of keys" and find one
[04:11] <jdong> nalioth: is #asdf not one of them?
[04:11] <jdong> I recall someone complaining about doing that once...
[04:11] <rob> slightly different kind of automatic I guess
[04:11] <nalioth> jdong: join it and see
[04:11] <rob> heh
[04:11] <jdong> whoa I'm still alive
[04:12]  * jdong won't try the next one on his "someone said it" list
[04:15] <rob> good idea. Don't you just love rumors.
[04:15] <jdong> I do indeed :)
[04:15] <elkbuntu> jdong, something like that is what jono got trapped in soon after he joined canonical
[04:15] <serphet> need a clear for dcc exploit
[04:16] <jdong> elkbuntu: is that the person I'm recalling?
[04:16] <jdong> elkbuntu: it probably is
[04:16] <elkbuntu> he blogged about it, so probably
[04:16] <rob> elkbuntu, got a link to the blog?
[04:16] <elkbuntu> gimme a min, i'll search for it
[04:16] <rob> righto, cheers
[04:17] <elkbuntu> http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=779
[04:17] <rob> thanks :)
[04:17] <serphet> need a clear for the dcc exploit please :) got a laptop to work on
[04:17] <jdong> oh pfft so I'm ONE letter short.
[04:17] <jdong> and I would've been zapped :)
[04:18] <jdong> btw is that still valid today?
[04:19] <rob> heh, I guess jono is as smart as a botnet runner then :P
[04:19]  * jdong wonders if he should use a discardable IP to test it
[04:19] <rob> and yes, there is a big chunk of time where I am usually the only staffer about
[04:19] <elkbuntu> rob, more than likely wasnt aware of the channel traps, and didnt think beyond his immediate need
[04:20] <rob> I guess
[04:20] <jdong> if that's really the name of the channel, I can totally see how someone can arbitrarily type it
[04:22] <serphet> are any ops even awake :(
[04:22] <rob> I guess when bot runners are thinking of what to call their channel the letters "asdfg" come easily to them too
[04:23] <jdong> rob: 10 bucks it's because at the time the botrunner was packaging his bot, #asdf was occupied :)
[04:23] <rob> heh maybe
[04:25] <jrib> serphet: ready for a test?
[04:25] <serphet> jrib: yes :DE
[04:26] <rob> serphet, I think your smiley has facial hair
[04:26] <serphet> :p
[04:26] <rob> go the goatee
[04:26] <elkbuntu> or is chewing it's nails with a big grin
[04:27] <jrib> serphet: you may rejoin #ubuntu, thanks for your patience
[04:28] <serphet> kk thanks!
[05:07] <ubotu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:07] <Madpilot> not urgent in #u
[05:08] <Madpilot> just a slightly offensive nick
[05:08] <jrib> not sure how... but
[05:13] <nalioth> jdong: just because you like pixie sluts . . . 
[05:13]  * nalioth runs
[05:14] <jdong> nalioth: hey, it's all good :)
[05:16] <Madpilot> jdong, I didn't think it was terribly offensive either, but easier to ask than have people whining, I figure...
[05:16] <jdong> Madpilot: it was so-so, strictly speaking not appropriate for Ubuntu but not the worst I've seen
[05:17] <Madpilot> ya, I've seen (and kickbanned) lots worse...
[06:59] <ubotu> [chr0n0s] called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:00] <rob> its all good
[07:01] <tritium> with robbster?
[07:01] <rob> yeah
[07:02] <rob> he is frustrated, and apologised
[07:02] <tritium> okay
[07:24] <Myrtti> <3 facebook
[08:17] <ubotu> [chr0n0s] called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:21] <Madpilot> false alarm.
[08:21] <Madpilot> good for a laugh, though
[08:33] <ubotu> thr1lljockey called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:34] <Madpilot> dealt with
[09:15] <BugMaN> hi all! Please someone could add my ubuntu/member cloak? my LP profile is https://launchpad.net/~bugman and my mail address is bugman@ubuntu.com my secondary nickname is "bugmandue"
[09:30] <Madpilot> @now amsterdam
[09:30] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Amsterdam: October 23 2007, 10:30:23 - Next meeting: Server Team in 6 hours 29 minutes
[09:30] <Madpilot> BugMaN, Seveas is the man to ask about cloaks, generally. nalioth can set them too, I think.
[09:33] <BugMaN> Madpilot: thanks
[09:33] <gnomefreak> afaik once a member for the council says its ok than nalioth or whomever can set it
[09:34] <Seveas> correct
[09:34] <gnomefreak> ;)
[09:34] <Madpilot> morning Seveas 
[09:34] <gnomefreak> morning
[09:34] <Seveas> morning
[09:34] <BugMaN> Seveas: hi 
[09:34] <BugMaN> BugMaN: can you set my cloak? :)
[09:34] <gnomefreak> is there a list of council members?
[09:35] <Seveas> gnomefreak, lp.net/~ubuntu-irc-council
[09:35] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[09:35] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:35] <Madpilot> https://launchpad.net/~communitycouncil
[09:35] <Seveas> BugMaN, I can't: only staff can set the cloak, I can merely approve it (which has been done already)
[09:36] <Madpilot> was just finding it
[09:36] <Seveas> Madpilot, different council ;)
[09:36] <Madpilot> ah, that council
[09:36] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[09:36] <Seveas> BugMaN, so you'll have to wait for a staffer to wake up
[09:36] <Madpilot> I always think CC when 'Council' is mentioned in an Ubuntu context...
[09:36] <BugMaN> Seveas: ok thanks :)
[09:36]  * gnomefreak thought hobbsee was on the council
[09:37] <tomaw> Seveas: ubuntu/member/bugman?
[09:37] <Seveas> tomaw, morning ;)
[09:37] <tomaw> hi :)
[09:37] <Seveas> tomaw, that would be correct
[09:37] <tomaw> done
[09:38] <BugMaN> thanks :)
[09:38] <Seveas> grazie!
[09:38] <BugMaN> Seveas: :)
[11:00] <Myrtti> is #ubuntu+1 shutdown?
[11:01] <rob> yes
[11:01] <rob> forwarded to #ubuntu until hardy is available
[11:02] <rob> still a few people in there though, we should probably boot them out now
[11:02] <Myrtti> ok
[11:02] <Seveas> hardy is available :)
[11:03] <rob> but, is it usable?
[11:04] <Jucato> is there a factoid about offensive nicks?
[11:06] <stdin> don't think so
[11:35] <Amaranth> Seveas: But is it more than just base-files? :)
[11:36] <PriceChild> I call troll on <stupidgirl> :P
[11:36] <Amaranth> me too
[11:37] <Amaranth> ah the toolchain has been updated too
[12:06] <Gary> calling it first wins prizes?
[12:18] <Myrtti> is the p34ce feller a troll...?
[12:22] <PriceChild> *watches*
 in #ubuntuforums :/
[12:45] <Tm_T> mooh
[12:49] <PriceChild> maybe not
[13:15] <PriceChild> Did chanserv just die? :/
[13:19] <Pici> no?
[13:19] <Tm_T> nope
[13:20] <PriceChild> well it came back almost immediately, how rare
[13:43] <effie_jayx>  have a troll chasing me around channels...
[13:44] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, jrib? ;)
[13:44] <gnomefreak> fun arnt they
[13:44] <effie_jayx> julioh
[13:44] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  lol
[13:44] <PriceChild> :)
[13:46] <jrib> hmm?
[13:47] <jdong> PriceChild: a bit itch down in your banhammer region this morning, no? :)
[13:47] <jdong> itchy*
[13:47] <Pici> jdong: <effie_jayx>  have a troll chasing me around channels...
[13:47] <Pici> jdong: ur in my tab-complete, messin me up
[13:47] <PriceChild> jdong, ffs why does everything need to be commentated? Imagine if I kicked... and a thousand people said "lol"
[13:47] <jdong> PriceChild: that sounds like #ubuntu?
[13:47] <PriceChild> EXACTLY :)
[13:48] <jdong> PriceChild: or the next DCC wave "what was that? " "why'd they quit" "lol"
[13:48] <PriceChild> indeed, that I can understand
[13:48] <PriceChild> but when I'm removing people _for  being offtopic_ people should know better
[13:48] <Pici> Dont forget people pasting the messages again and again to tell the ops what happened.
[13:48] <PriceChild> Pici, maybe I should call !ops to get the attention of a few other ops seen as only2 or 3 are dealing with it?
[13:48] <PriceChild> They could use help you know?
[13:49] <Pici> Hehe
[13:49] <PriceChild> Because operators never ever lurk.... They know not the saying "too many ops spoil the broth".
[13:49] <PriceChild> *goes to make some toast with honey to cheer up*
[13:50] <Pici> There isn't anyone opped, therefore no ops exist.
[13:51] <PriceChild> That stupidgirl one would be on my hilight list if I used one like lj.l
[13:51] <Tm_T> PriceChild: you mean LjL ?
[14:01] <PriceChild> Tm_T, I meant lj​l minus ​the hilight.
[14:01] <Tm_T> PriceChild: whos hilighted?
[14:01]  * Tm_T hides
[14:03] <PriceChild> Tm_T, you're the only one that hilighted anyone
[14:03] <elkbuntu> if you were to do that to mr n, he'd rip you a new arse
[14:04] <PriceChild> haha :)
[14:06] <jrib> mrn
[14:07] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: you mean nalioth?
[14:08] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, are you intentionally doing this or are you plain thick?
[14:08] <Tm_T> very intentionally
[14:09] <PriceChild> *hopes you sneakily added a ZWS*
[14:14] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, so, you're trolling?
[14:15] <Tm_T> no, not trolling
[14:16] <elkbuntu> you're baiting attention and intentionally irritating people... which is by definition, trolling.
[14:16] <Tm_T> hmm, well when you put that in that way, yes
 chat me!
[14:17] <PriceChild> in -offtopic
[14:24] <jdong> PriceChild: is that your internet girlfriend?
[14:24]  * jdong ducks
[14:25] <Tm_T> jdong: yes
[14:26] <stupidgirl> what's up with the elitist cretin ops?
[14:26] <Tm_T> ?
[14:26] <stupidgirl> i got *banned* from offtopic for saying "chat me"?
[14:26] <jdong> excuse us?
[14:26] <Myrtti> what kind of talk is that?
[14:26] <stupidgirl> random  talk
[14:27] <elkbuntu> you got banned from offtopic for rude behaviour, stupidgirl
[14:27] <Tm_T> Myrtti <3
[14:27] <Myrtti> same behaviour and conduct codes and rules apply here
[14:27] <stupidgirl> rude? where
[14:27] <stupidgirl> rude i asked u why u kicked me the first time
[14:27] <Myrtti> 16:26 < stupidgirl> what's up with the elitist cretin ops?
[14:27] <stupidgirl> ??
[14:27] <Myrtti> I'm elitist cretin op? ;____;
[14:27] <jdong> just for that statement, you have condemned yourself to a permanent ban
[14:27] <jdong> think before you talk and the world will be a happier place
[14:28] <stupidgirl> ?
[14:28] <Pici> hrm.
[14:28] <PriceChild> stupidgirl, just a random question, how do you know about this channel?
[14:28] <stupidgirl> well what did i do? the first time
[14:28] <stupidgirl> someoone mentioned it to me
[14:28] <PriceChild> someone mentioned it just now?
[14:28] <PriceChild> or a while back and you remembered/
[14:28] <stupidgirl> a while back
[14:29] <jdong> stupidgirl: say nonsense that was offtopic even for offtopic, then immediately argued with ops?
[14:29] <PriceChild> stupidgirl, the ban stays. Come back in a few days, preferably with a different nickname.
[14:29] <stupidgirl> ?
[14:29] <stupidgirl> there is nonsense every minute in that channel, i dont see how mine was any different
[14:30] <jdong> most chatter in there are at least coherent english statements.
[14:30] <PriceChild> stupidgirl, I am upholding that ban. Come back in a few days, preferably with a different nickname. I believe you are trolling, especially due to the fact that you knew of this channel immediately. I also suggest you change your attitude and don't attack the operators.
[14:32] <Myrtti> is there something going on at #ubuntu-classroom and when?
[14:32] <stupidgirl> actually another op mentioned this channel after the same "op" who just banned me, was hassling me the other day
[14:32] <stupidgirl> but ok
[14:32] <elkbuntu> i've been virtually absent for a month...
[14:33] <LjL> elkbuntu: ATZ ATDT1800INTERNET
[14:34] <stupidgirl> ..
[14:34] <elkbuntu> LjL, huh?
[14:34] <Pici> LjL: I think she has dsl now.
[14:34] <jdong> LjL: you forgot +++ATH
[14:34] <LjL> Pici: yeah, but the past virtual month.
[14:34] <Pici> right right.
[14:34]  * jdong reminisces on the good old days that actually worked
[14:34] <PriceChild> stupidgirl, Is there anything else we can help you with?
[14:34] <LjL> jdong: maybe nalioth would have a trigger on that and k-line me, who knows :P
[14:35] <jdong> LjL: ROFL, did that used to be a dialup day freenod exploit?
[14:35] <jdong> lol, the DCC of dialup modems
[14:35] <stupidgirl> not really PriceChild  seeing as you arent gonna lsiten to what i say anyway
[14:35] <LjL> jdong: heh no, it reached oblivion *very* well before i started being on freenode ,9
[14:36] <LjL> shift? where are you shift?
[14:36] <elkbuntu> stupidgirl, we are listening, we're just not submitting to your whims
[14:36] <jdong> LjL: hehe, likewise... my freenode age is like less than a year? :)
[14:36] <stupidgirl> whims? you're the one who banned me over nothing
[14:36] <LjL> jdong: i last remember seeing that stuff used as an actual exploit like 7 years ago
[14:36] <jdong> LjL: oh yeah, it was a HUGE problem before they implemented +++ guards
[14:36] <elkbuntu> stupidgirl, backchatting people and being snappy at others is not 'nothing'
[14:37] <jdong> LjL: just a random +++ in a binary stream was enough to send many old modems into command mode
[14:37] <LjL> jdong: and before everyone started having a l33t broadband connection
[14:37] <elkbuntu> im almost tempted to see if this works....
[14:37] <stupidgirl> backchatting where? when i asked why u kicked me?
[14:37] <LjL> jdong: sure it was, i had several command lines involving "ping" to achieve that =)
[14:37] <jdong> LjL: haha
[14:37] <elkbuntu> stupidgirl, no, where you asked me what my purpose was
[14:38] <stupidgirl> you asked me what mine was first
[14:38]  * elkbuntu notes that it is like midnight and the birds will wake me in like 6 hours
[14:38]  * LjL users earplugs
[14:38] <stupidgirl> so i asked you the same
[14:38] <LjL> uses
[14:38] <mc44> elkbuntu: a shotgun helps with that
[14:38] <elkbuntu> stupidgirl, no, i asked what the purpose of a line that in the irc world is oft mistaken for an invitation to be sexually harrassed
[14:38] <jrib> mc44: waking up?
[14:39] <Seeker`> mc44: Putting shotguns in your ears is a bad idea
[14:39] <stupidgirl> sexually harrassed ? o.O 
[14:39] <mc44> jrib: waking the birds up, for sure
[14:39] <elkbuntu> LjL, yeah, but only sparingly. im prone to infections
[14:39] <Myrtti> more coffee, anyone?
[14:39] <stupidgirl> where do you get that idea from
[14:39]  * Myrtti passes the teapot around too
[14:39] <elkbuntu> stupidgirl, you must be new to IRC
[14:39] <jdong> stupidgirl: it's simply what happens when someone with the nick stupidgirl says "chat me"
[14:39] <stupidgirl> not really, why do you say that, elkbuntu 
[14:39] <LjL> elkbuntu: yeah i also wonder if i *should* use them every night. but got so used to them...
[14:40] <jdong> stupidgirl: I can forward you about 500 spam messages per day that start off like that, and you can see where it ends :)
[14:40] <LjL> stupidgirl: well perhaps because you aren't even registered for starters
[14:40] <g0dd3ss> k good nuff?
[14:40] <PriceChild> stupidgirl, Your very first sentence on joining this channel was enough to confirm my suspicions. I HAD been observing you for some time because of your behaviour and attitude. Please come back later with a new nick.
[14:41] <g0dd3ss> lol what behaviour
[14:41] <elkbuntu> meanwhile, im still intrigued to know who i supposedly harrassed in my absence
[14:41] <Myrtti> hmmm
[14:41] <Myrtti> the myrttiubuntu/elkubuntu fellar?
[14:41] <Myrtti> ;-)
[14:41] <LjL> elkbuntu: well i might have tried to auto-complete your nickname and highlighted someone else
[14:45] <elkbuntu> LjL, eh?
[14:45] <LjL> elkbuntu: well, if that happened, then you'd arguably have harassed someone in your absence.
[14:45] <elkbuntu> heh
[14:46] <elkbuntu> anyway, bed time before i pass out
[14:46] <Pici> I'm sure elkbuntu harrassed someone, just not in irc.
[14:46]  * Pici ducks
[14:46] <elkbuntu> Pici, well according to my ex-manager... anything less than kissing her arse is harrassment
[14:47] <Pici> elkbuntu: Well thats just stupid.  
[14:47] <g0dd3ss> apparently the same can be said for you
[14:47] <jdong> anyone? /cs k love?
[14:48] <g0dd3ss> ??
[14:48] <PriceChild> g0dd3ss, Hey, can I help you?
[14:48] <g0dd3ss> probably not
[14:48] <g0dd3ss> birds of a feather flock together right
[14:49] <elkbuntu> is that why you flock to here>
[14:49] <PriceChild> Hehe definitely not.
[14:49] <PriceChild> *wonders how many times he's !ohmy'd jdong etc.*
[14:49] <jdong> PriceChild: ?? yeah you cretin elitist "op"
[14:49] <jdong> :P
[14:50] <PriceChild> g0dd3ss, I have very clearly stated that the ban on you in -offtopic will not be lifted for several days. You are/were trolling and we will also not tolerate any attacks.
[14:50] <g0dd3ss> I've been here for weeks, months w/e trying to help ppl when i can, not that i know much, seen plethora of ppl swearing, absuing the bot flooding etc and they get warnings, i get abnned for saying "chat me"as a joke, to a seemingly dead room
[14:50] <PriceChild> g0dd3ss, if you have any further questions then please ask.
[14:50] <PriceChild> g0dd3ss, Think of "chat me" as the straw that broke the camel's back
[14:50] <jdong> g0dd3ss: ok you could've said "sorry, that was a joke, won't do it again" rather than insulting all the ops to try to get back in
[14:51] <jdong> I have no idea why you thought calling us cretin elitists was going to help your cause
[14:51] <g0dd3ss> it isn't hard to "get back in", that's not what I want. soimple enough to do that
[14:52] <jdong> please leave? you've gotten a final answer from the operators, there's nothing further we can assist you with
[14:52] <g0dd3ss> sure
[14:54] <elkbuntu> please refer to the topic for our policy on lurkers. you wont be exempted from that policy.
[15:10] <LjL> [16:07:30] <g0dd3ss> ???
[15:10] <LjL> [16:09:59] <g0dd3ss> well why u have to do that?
[15:10] <LjL> [16:10:07] <g0dd3ss> what did i do? that was so bad
[15:10] <LjL> [16:10:39] <LjL> you were told to please leave #ubuntu-ops - we don't allow non-ops in there except for brief periods to discuss things
[15:11] <jdong> LjL: can you tell her that question marks are not sentences?
[15:11] <LjL> [16:11:17] <g0dd3ss> noone listen in there anyway
[15:11] <LjL> [16:11:32] <g0dd3ss> she get mad at me for something days ago and punishes me now
[15:11]  * jdong sends al gore after her to tell her how many pounds of CO2 useless question marks add to the atmosphere
[15:12] <LjL> [16:12:18] <g0dd3ss> they were making jokes about dead babies in there earlier
[15:12] <LjL> [16:12:30] <g0dd3ss> but noone says anything
[15:12] <LjL> [16:12:34] <LjL> that is called "monitoring someone". is you consistently misbehave, even if none of the single instances are very bad, you eventually get banned
[15:14] <PriceChild> LjL, also mention that other people's actions do not justify "her" own.
[15:14] <PriceChild> LjL, if "she" thinks guidelines are being broken then she should alert operators somehow
[15:15] <jdong> PriceChild: then she'll just ops the crap outta us :D
[15:15] <LjL> PriceChild: i wouldn't say that, since seveas was around and saw that dead babies joke :)
[15:16] <jdong> LjL: s/saw/started/
[15:16] <LjL> jdong: erm, my grep didn't show that. ssssh.
[15:16] <jdong> LjL: you have the Party's grep? :)
[15:17] <LjL> jdong: i just grepped for stupidgirl :P
[15:17] <PriceChild> LjL, I meant to word it as not necessarily applying to that specific incident, but in general
[15:18] <jdong> LjL: just grep for dead babies :)
[15:18] <jdong> 05:35 < Seveas> qdb is bash with less dead babies and more fun
[15:18] <jdong> I didn't find anything policy-violating in the ensuing discussion
[15:18] <jdong> except stupidgirl trying to start a trollwar
[15:18] <jdong> how not surprising.
 anyway, keep in mind that ops are not always looking, and some ops may be more tolerant than others. so, judging what you can do based on what *others* did is not a good idea -- you should just stick to the channel etiquette.
[15:21] <PriceChild> Grrr... the calendar files for openweek have every entry starting with "Ubuntu Open Week - "
[15:22] <PriceChild> *removes so he can actually see the real title in evolution and lets the colour inform him its an open week session*
[15:28] <hexstar> I'm sorry for the way I have acted on ubuntu channels in the past
[15:28] <hexstar> thank you for giving me another chance
[15:28] <Pici> !test
[15:28] <ubotu> Failed.
[15:29] <hexstar> was that directed to me?
[15:30] <Pici> hexstar: no, I was seeing if the bot was lagged or not.
[15:30] <hexstar> ah
[15:30] <hexstar> you guys should teach it a ping function... :)
[15:30] <Pici> !ping
[15:30] <ubotu> pong
[15:31] <hexstar> well where it replies back with the ms it took to get your message and then respond
[15:32] <hexstar> but anyways thanks guys :)
[15:50] <LjL> hexstar: you're welcome but now that your bans are lifted (they are, right? thought i did that), i should ask you to leave this channel, as non-ops idling here is not allowed
[15:50] <PriceChild> LjL, you did yes.
[15:52] <Tm_T> :)
[15:53] <effie_jayx> there's some jono trolling in classroom
[15:53] <effie_jayx> looooooooooooool
[15:53] <LjL> ban him
[15:53] <effie_jayx> LOL
[15:54] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, I've already !ohmy'd him... he's on my hilight list...
[15:54] <LjL> oh poor guy
[15:54] <PriceChild> He asked for it! :P
[15:54] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  heheheheee
[15:54] <Pici> Who does he think he is?!
[15:54] <effie_jayx> I just had to do that...
[15:54] <effie_jayx> yeah.. that's what I mean
[16:45] <Myrtti> !register > jombba11
[16:45] <Myrtti> !register > tuplanolla
[16:55] <popey> can someone take over in #ubuntu-classroom please, I have a minor household crisis :S
[16:58] <LjL> popey: sure
[16:58] <DShepherd> excuse me, I need some help getting to #ubuntu. something about some dccexploit? 
[16:58] <Pici> DShepherd: did you follow the directions in the topic where you were forwarded?
[16:59] <DShepherd> Pici, doesnt seem to help
[16:59]  * DShepherd reads the instructions again
[16:59] <Pici> DShepherd: Well, we need to manually unban you, but did you follow the directions?
[17:00] <DShepherd> Pici, yes i did
[17:00] <DShepherd> i changed the port to 8001
[17:00] <DShepherd> doesn't help
[17:00] <Pici> DShepherd: Of course it doesn't, we need to test and then unban you.
[17:01] <Pici> DShepherd: okay, you pass, hold on a second.
[17:02] <Pici> DShepherd: You're all set, you may now rejoin #ubuntu
[17:02] <DShepherd> thanks much Pici. I appreciate it. 
[17:02]  * DShepherd goes to the classroom!
[17:32]  * Pici turns on the ac/dc
[17:33] <ThunderStruck> moving motorhead to ubuntu pc :)
[17:33] <LjL> turning away from #ubuntu-classroom for some minutes, please keep an eye (shouldn't need to relay questions, holbach seems to be comfortable doing it himself)
[17:36]  * ThunderStruck might go laydown for a while iceapoe kicked my butt the last few days
[17:36] <ThunderStruck> -o
[17:42] <Tm_T> someone could pass rights in classroom and classroom-chat to me too, so I can help there when I can
[17:42] <Tm_T> if needed that is
[17:42] <ThunderStruck> Tm_T, your a member arnt you
[17:42] <ThunderStruck> ubuntu memeber
[17:43] <Tm_T> not currently, because never made into meeting alive
[17:43] <ThunderStruck> ok brb let me continue this on ubuntu ;)
[17:43] <Pici> hrm.  is there any way to do global regexing in the factoids? or do I just need to mash each edit a bunch of times?
[17:44] <LjL> Tm_T: i can op you but just one-off
[17:44] <Tm_T> well not needed currently, as said, I can help when needed if I'm up then
[17:45] <Tm_T> more food ->
[17:58] <effie_jayx> guys
[17:58] <effie_jayx> julioh> effie_jayx, cromador de ubuntu
[17:58] <PriceChild> @now
[17:58] <effie_jayx> cromador is a bad word in my country
[17:58] <effie_jayx> I banned him from ubuntu-ve
[17:59] <effie_jayx> and he he keeps following me around and saying the same word
[18:02] <gnomefreak> effie_jayx: did you expect anything else? :)
[18:03] <effie_jayx> gnomefreak,  geeze but it's been 5 hours now...
[18:03] <gnomefreak> oh crap
[18:03] <effie_jayx> do  I have to report a bug in launchpad for that ... 
[18:03] <effie_jayx> lol
[18:03] <gnomefreak> tell him to go get a damn life 
[18:04] <effie_jayx> gnomefreak, done... 
[18:04] <effie_jayx> gnomefreak,  effie_jayx> julioh,  apt-get a life buddy
[18:04] <gnomefreak> :)
[18:05] <effie_jayx> nah
[18:05] <effie_jayx> I give up
[18:15] <LjL> PriceChild, it's all yours, i'm out to buy tobacco :P
[18:16] <PriceChild> oh lovely... have to catch up now :)
[18:16] <LjL> PriceChild: next unanswered is <begert__> QUESTION: are there plans for releasing a "test kit" that users can run so that results can be gathered on a wide variety of system configurations?
[18:18] <LjL> PriceChild, i told them to explicitly ask for a next question, they seem to be quite verbose ;)
[18:18] <PriceChild> LjL, oh sorry, :)
[18:22] <Myrtti> may I say hello to liw on -classroom ;-)
[18:22] <Myrtti> I've been to his IRL packaging classes in spring :->
[18:26] <Myrtti> plz ;-)
[18:27] <PriceChild> I can't stop you :)
[18:31] <Tm_T> PriceChild: but you can punish her later?
[18:31] <PriceChild> LjL, are you really gone, or are you back?
[18:31] <PriceChild> Tm_T, oh definitely.
[18:31] <LjL> PriceChild: i'm back now
[18:31] <Myrtti> I just did _o/
[18:31] <Myrtti> and he didn't seem to miind
[18:31] <Tm_T> :/
[18:32] <PriceChild> LjL, I'm off for pizza very soon :)
[18:32] <Myrtti> we had the most excellent discussion about debian-women and women in FLOSS a year ago when Maddog was in Finland
[18:32] <LjL> PriceChild: i can finish this one
[18:32] <PriceChild> good good ty
[19:03] <LjL> if anybody is available to manage -classroom for kiko, i can't be there now
[19:21] <LjL> hm, this is getting a bit embarrassing in -classroom... i don't know whether he doesn't *want* to answer the last questions or what, but in any case i can't start relaying them now as i'll have to go before it's up anyway
[19:25] <Seveas> LjL, was xmlrpc to launchpad discussed?
[19:26] <LjL> Seveas: i have no idea what that means, but from the sound of it, no.
[19:29] <jussi01> Seveas: it was mentioned
[19:44] <PriceChild> back if needed for classroom
[19:48] <PriceChild> Ok I'm confused...
[19:48] <PriceChild> I am most definitely not in UTC, however classroom is acting as bst?
[19:50] <PriceChild> @now
[19:50] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 23 2007, 18:50:38 - Next meeting: Kernel Team in 6 days
[19:50] <stdin> if it was BST, it would be the Edubuntu talk
[19:50] <PriceChild> ahhhh wait... i didn't see that there were two launchpad talks.
[19:51] <PriceChild> oh wait no...
[19:51] <PriceChild> i was just looking at thursday
[19:51] <PriceChild> because thursday == tuesday
[19:51] <ompaul> PriceChild, in your mind maybe
[19:51] <PriceChild> but they're so similar
[19:51] <ompaul> PriceChild, in your mind maybe   (how long can I keep this up ;-))
[19:51] <jussi01> PriceChild: I knew it, you are MAD!! off to the mental hospital with you...
[19:52] <PriceChild> quack
[19:52] <ompaul> PriceChild, in your mind maybe
[19:52]  * ompaul rofl
[19:52] <jussi01> lol
[19:52] <ompaul> how silly can I get :)
[19:52] <ompaul> the meme of the day is to reply to PriceChild with the phrase "in your mind maybe" where you can ;-)
[19:53] <PriceChild> and in turn, I will reply with "that's what he/she said" accordingly?
[19:53] <ompaul> PriceChild, in your mind maybe
[19:53] <PriceChild> Gahhhh I'm fed up of it already!! :)
[19:53]  * ompaul should stop, I am hurting from it :)
[19:54] <ompaul> laughing to the n'th degree can hurth
[19:54] <jussi01> !twss
[19:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:54] <jussi01> gah
[19:54] <jussi01> no twss in here
[19:54] <jussi01> :(
[19:54] <PriceChild> I think it would look bad if we enabled it here...
[19:55] <PriceChild> *remembers cowsay 6 months ago*
[19:55]  * jussi01 doesnt
[19:55] <Pici> !twss-#ubuntuforums
[19:55] <ubotu> That's what she said!
[19:55]  * Pici whistles
[19:55] <jussi01> brilliant... :P
[20:16] <ubotu> In ubotu, mythbot said: theend is the beginning is the end
[20:16] <LjL> PriceChild: how much do you want to be that he confused UTC with something else too?
[20:16] <LjL> !botabuse > mythbot    (mythbot, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:17] <PriceChild> *re-reads several times* ahhh "bet" :)
[20:17] <PriceChild> Yeah I'm willing to go with that one.
[20:17] <LjL> ah whops
[20:35] <Pici> I'm going afk for a bit, watch out for hordag in #ubuntu, he was a bit trollish a few days ago.
[20:40] <PriceChild> Hey jarle, how can I help?
[20:40] <PriceChild> ljl - * irc.freenode.net sets mode +z #ubuntu-classroom
[20:40] <PriceChild> wth? :s
[20:40] <LjL> PriceChild: mlocked
[20:40] <LjL> at least i think
[20:40] <PriceChild> I thought chanserv sorts those out.
[20:41] <LjL> yeah i thought so
[20:41] <jarle> I'm not quite sure why I keep being thrown out of #kubuntu as I have configured xchat to use port 8001... test me please...
[20:41] <PriceChild> jarle, you look good, one mo
[20:41] <PriceChild> ah done :)
[20:42] <LjL> jarle: sorted
[20:42] <PriceChild> LjL, I'm seeing blank... how do I list mlocks?
[20:42] <PriceChild> ah //cs info
[20:43] <LjL> PriceChild: yeah except there doesn't seem to be any set
[20:43] <PriceChild> I don't see it on there :/
[20:43] <LjL> perhaps it was server desync rather than mlock
[20:43] <PriceChild> Guess so.
[20:43] <jarle> thnx... might it be because the frenode server wants me to IDENTIFY before letting me talk, and that makes #kubuntu think I am open to dcc attacks?
[20:43] <LjL> PriceChild: anyway, perhaps it's better to leave +z on... if some of them want moderation, and then somebody sets +m but forgets +z -- ugh
[20:43] <PriceChild> I wanted to set it off to stop confusing me and <jesgui>.... but he's stopped now so meh
[20:44] <LjL> jarle: no, we kick users manually when we see they're victims of DCC attacks. the only possible reason why you were kicked without being affected by the exploit is that you, by chance, happened to leave IRC at the *very* same moment during which there was an attack
[20:45] <LjL> PriceChild: yeah i know why you did it, but anyway if he can't read spanish, he'll hardly read the server notices that he can't talk ;)
[20:45] <PriceChild> That though is very very unlikely jarle... because quit messages are different so the op must have been half asleep... which I guess isn't too unusual ;)
[20:45] <PriceChild> :P
[20:46] <LjL> PriceChild: hey, i don't remember setting any forwards on #kubuntu, so look at someone else :P
[20:46] <PriceChild> gah... detatched channel
[20:46] <jarle> Actually I wasn't kicked, just auto-forwarded when trying to join....
[20:46] <PriceChild> jarle, they would have caught it whilst you were reconnecting.
[20:46] <PriceChild> LjL, wasn't pointing fingers 8-)
[20:46] <LjL> jarle: yes well, same thing. your nickname was ban-forwarded anyway
[20:47] <jarle> Haven't been in #kubuntu for a while so I don't know the circumstances around me leaving the channel the last time though...
[20:47] <ompaul> jarle, so step one - you change to 8001 - step two you leave irc come back fixed - step three you get tested 
[20:48] <nalioth> jarle: 'leave' as in shutting your client down totally
[20:48] <ompaul> jarle, or we test now if you leave you need to fix before you come back
[20:49] <jarle> ompaul: the thing is that this has happened to me a couple of times the last couple of months, never have to change anything, have been tested ok, and I'm in again...
[20:50] <jarle> never min as long as it works now :)
[20:50] <ompaul> jarle, is there anything else we can help you with?
[20:51] <jarle> info on wether gutsy is stable enough to upgrade to yet?
[20:51] <PriceChild> jarle, do you swap computers/locations?
[20:52] <jarle> PriceChild: no, but I guess that xchat could choose a different server if the primary one is not available...
[20:52] <ompaul> jarle, it works on the box I have put it on
[20:52] <PriceChild> jarle, won't make a difference
[20:52] <jarle> ompaul: I read something about a unstable (crashing) kernel the first days after the release...
[20:52] <ompaul> jarle, not had that myself
[20:53] <nalioth> jarle: gutsy is one of the most finished Ubuntus i've experienced
[20:54] <nalioth> i've had no problems with it at all
[20:57] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: At someone hasn't...  Meanwhile I've become of the opinion that it wasn't ready to be released.
[20:57] <jarle> ...upgrading now...
[20:58] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: that is funny, as i've rather enjoyed it
[20:59] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: :S  Yeah, it has a lot of cool stuff - it just doesn't work for me.  Been filing bugs for the last few days.
[20:59] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: you must have weird hardware, then  :P
[21:01] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: some of it is hardware-related, yes, but it's certainly not exotic.
[21:01] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: My list: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~tonyyarusso
[21:02] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: 12/32 are from the last few days.
[21:14] <tonyyarusso> Sigh...another bug
[21:38] <effie_jayx> good quote... "Never argue with an idiot. He'll pull you down to his level and win with experience"
[22:14] <Pici> !shipit
[22:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shipit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:14] <Pici> !shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs.
[22:14] <ubotu> But shipit already means something else!
[22:17] <mneptok> ubotu: forget shipit
[22:17] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, mneptok said: ubotu: forget shipit
[22:17] <mneptok> bah.
[22:17] <mneptok> %btlogin
[22:17] <Pici> just @login ;)
[22:17] <Seeker`> @login
[22:17] <ubotu> OK
[22:17] <Seeker`> woo
[22:17] <Pici> woo
[22:18] <Seeker`> it still works
[22:25] <ompaul> is shipit dead yet?
[22:25] <ompaul> I thought it was over after dapper
[22:25] <ompaul> or some such
[22:25] <ompaul> anyway
[22:25] <Pici> No, they're shipping Gutsy cds.
[22:25] <ompaul> ahh
[22:25] <Pici> except I broke the factoid.
[22:25] <nalioth> ompaul: still alive and well, and providing Ubuntu goodness to the masses
[22:26] <ompaul> ahh
[22:26] <ompaul> right I said I was going a while ago I am now
[22:26]  * nalioth sees AndrewB and LjL are prepared to repel boarders in -classroom
[22:37] <mneptok> !shipit
[22:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shipit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:38] <mneptok> ubotu: !shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and  http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs.
[22:38] <ubotu> But shipit already means something else!
[22:38] <mneptok> ubotu: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and  http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs.
[22:38] <mneptok> !shipit
[22:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shipit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:38] <mneptok> retard.
[22:39] <PriceChild> !unforget shipit
[22:39] <ubotu> I suddenly remember shipit again, PriceChild
[22:39] <PriceChild> !shipit
[22:39] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy \(7.10\) CDs
[22:39] <Pici> unforget! aha!
[22:39] <Pici> I thought it was remember.
[22:39] <PriceChild> Pici, no, !unforget :P
[22:40] <jdong> PriceChild: if only humans had that
[22:40] <jdong> jdong: !unforget nonhomogenous 2nd order differential equation
[22:40] <Pumpernickel> We do, but it's been forgotten.
 Sorry, I never knew anything about nonhomogenous 2nd order differential equation
[22:41] <jdong> PriceChild: shhhhhhh
[22:41] <jdong> PriceChild: you aren't supposed to know that ;-)
[22:41] <PriceChild> jdong, I don't know why on earth we tolerate you in here anymore... being only "above average".
[22:42] <jdong> PriceChild: relative to the MIT student body mind you :)
[23:15] <mneptok> jdong: you're at MIT?
[23:15] <jdong> mneptok: yeah
[23:15] <mneptok> jdong: pledge?
[23:15] <jdong> mneptok: huh?
[23:15] <hexstar> LJL sorry
[23:15] <hexstar> I will leave now
[23:15] <mneptok> you in a fraternity?
[23:15] <hexstar> I went to school by the time you replied to me
[23:15] <jdong> mneptok: ah, nope :)
[23:15] <hexstar> (just looked at transcript)
[23:16] <mneptok> jdong: just curious, as my brother-in-law is an MIT grad and still active in his fraternity.
[23:16] <jdong> mneptok: cool
[23:17] <mneptok> i was going to get him drunk and get you some ripe gossip.
[23:17] <mneptok> or a map to the cadavers.
[23:17] <jdong> lol :)
[23:18] <nalioth> well, that was most interesting
[23:18] <PriceChild> the Wallops?
[23:18] <nalioth> somehow my dhclient failed 
[23:19] <mneptok> nalioth: you need to get to church more.
[23:20]  * mneptok sacrificed a juvenile hog to Tl'aan Q'uaa Oortash, and DHCP has been great ever since
[23:25] <ubotu> crdlb called the ops in #ubuntu