[00:00] <MonsterCookie> is there any place where I can compare benchmarks of xubuntu to see whether I could do better for my spec?
[00:01] <tombar>  no Acorn02, kinda stuck with my keys..
[00:01] <Acorn02> lol
[00:09] <Wilbur31337> Hello, all! :)
[00:11] <Wilbur31337> When installing, I have 3 kernel choices:  linux-generic, linux-image-generic, and linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic.  Are these different kernels, or just one kernel and two meta packages for some special install?
[00:33] <tonyyarusso> Wilbur31337: When you say "choices", at what point are you being given options?  Kernel installation should be automatic...
[00:38] <Wilbur31337> Nope, during "Installing base system" window pops up asking which kernel.
[00:38] <Wilbur31337> Sorry, btw, was afk.
[00:38] <Wilbur31337> Found the answer by RTFM.
[00:39] <Wilbur31337> All the same kernel, the different packages just determine what all is installed with the kernel.
[00:41] <Wilbur31337> The one with the version numbers is the kernel itself. The linux-image-generic package installs some modules for it, and the linux-generic option installs restricted modules also.
[01:01] <cheeseboy> hi
[01:01] <cheeseboy> Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[01:01] <cheeseboy> gnome-mount 0.6
[01:01] <cheeseboy> how do I fix that?
[01:06] <Michae1> hello - can anyone help with wireless probs here?  I have been at this for hours and am ready to throw the old laptop in the river
[01:07] <manu__> hey
[01:09] <manu__> I'm completely newbie... using Ubuntu 7.10 (Gnome) and willing to try Xubuntu.
[01:09] <manu__> I tried to synaptic but it doesn't show xubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <manu__> or something like that
[01:09] <manu__> "tried through synaptic"*
[01:10] <crimsun>   Candidate: 2.50
[01:10] <crimsun>   Version table:
[01:10] <crimsun>      2.50 0
[01:10] <crimsun>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages
[01:10] <crimsun> seems to exist.
[01:10] <Michae1> ...
[01:12] <crimsun> `apt-cache policy xubuntu-desktop`
[01:17] <manu__> nevermind, I'm just downloading it through "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop", as I learned in some forum
[01:17] <manu__> thanks anyway
[01:28] <tombar> im having some trouble with aumix on my xubuntu, im googoling and apparently im not the only one as its already reported as a bug, anyone have found and approach to solve the SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK ?
[02:09] <frig> hello
[02:10] <frig> i am unable to connect to google using FF, but i am able to ping it
[02:11] <frig> all other websites work fine
[02:13] <frig> if anyone has any help to offer, i would be appreciative :)
[02:19] <cheeseboy> FF?
[02:32] <frig> firefox
[03:20] <cheeseboy> Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[03:20] <cheeseboy> gnome-mount 0.6
[03:20] <cheeseboy> how do i fix?
[03:21] <cheeseboy> frig what happens if u put googles ip in FF?
[03:21] <frig> ill try
[03:22] <frig> hm, that works perfectly
[03:24] <frig> why is it only doing this with google though?
[03:24] <cheeseboy> frig what error u get for google.com?
[03:24] <frig> just that it is taking too long to respond
[03:25] <cheeseboy> what exactky are y typing in?
[03:25] <cheeseboy> exactly u*
[03:25] <frig> google.com or www.google.com
[03:26] <cheeseboy> wat about http://www.google.com?
[03:27] <frig> same result :/
[03:28] <cheeseboy> can u search with the ip version of site?
[03:29] <frig> yes i get search results
[03:29] <cheeseboy> does it still say ip in url or it change to google?
[03:29] <frig> it still has the IP
[03:29] <cheeseboy> um
[03:30] <cheeseboy> in FF prevrences under networking
[03:30] <cheeseboy> is anything set?
[03:30] <cheeseboy> or it say "direct connection to internet"
[03:31] <frig> direct connection to the internet
[03:33] <cheeseboy> theres some thing where u can only use sites ip i forget what
[03:34] <frig> hm
[03:34] <cheeseboy> try "googleing" it "P
[03:34] <cheeseboy> :P
[03:34] <frig> lol
[03:34] <frig> thanks for the help
[03:34] <cheeseboy> np
[03:35] <frig> ill try installing opera and see if it is just firefox messing me up
[03:35] <Daviey> frig: console - $ dig google.com ; pastebin it
[03:37] <frig> k
[03:38] <frig> how do i copy text from the terminal
[03:38] <frig> oh nevermind
[03:40] <frig> the pastebin is stuck "connecting to pagead2.googlesyndication.com" ironically
[03:40] <frig> pasetbin page*
[03:41] <Daviey> try a different pastebin
[03:41] <Daviey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[03:42] <frig> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1226/
[03:43] <Daviey> frig: "host google.com" and "cat /etc/hosts" and "tracepath google.com"
[03:45] <Daviey> actually, before you do that - what does "w3m google.com" show?
[03:46] <frig> says its opening socket
[03:46] <Daviey> give it a few moments
[03:46] <frig> k
[03:48] <Daviey> meh.. i'll need the other stuff
[03:48] <frig> aye
[03:48] <frig> pastebin it?
[03:48] <Daviey> sure
[03:52] <frig> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1227/  -  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1228/  -  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1229/
[03:53] <frig> the w3m google.com command returned "cant load google.com"
[03:54] <frig> i wasnt sure how many times that tracepath command was going to return so i cut it off at 14, but it stopped at 31
[03:55] <frig> and told me "too many hops: pmtu 1500" and "resume: pmtu 1500" . if thats important at all
[03:55] <Daviey> seems like it's your router#
[03:55] <frig> ohh
[03:55] <frig> odd*
[03:56] <Daviey> http://192.168.0.1 and try adding opendns
[03:56] <frig> it was working perfectly when i had xp on it
[03:56] <Daviey> https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu
[03:57] <Daviey> I'm sure that will fix the issue, on your local machine
[03:57] <frig> ok, ill try that, thanks
[04:24] <frig_> thanks Daviey, that worked! :D
[04:30] <serphet> I have an acer aspire 3000 and am trying to put xubuntu gutsy on it. After the first loading screen after cd boot, my screen turns to static.
[05:10] <jack11> how do i install a .dmg file for mac?
[05:14] <The-Kernel> no clue
[05:14] <The-Kernel> !dmg
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <The-Kernel> is it even possible?
[05:23] <feliciano> why xubuntu doesnt have shipit??
[05:24] <elopi1> due to lack of founding
[05:25] <feliciano> sorry?
[05:25] <elopi1> "Unfortunately, unlike the other Ubuntu derivatives, Xubuntu does not yet have free cds available for shipping due to lack of funding."
[06:42] <Rynux91> hey
[06:43] <Rynux91> I think I may be one of those guys who can make almost any "foolproof" system burst into flames...
[06:44] <Rynux91> I need to overwrite my other version of Xubuntu on this computer...
[06:44] <Rynux91> since I really messed up the upgrade
[06:49] <Name141> Would the windows manager in Xubuntu work better for an old p2 450 ?
[06:49] <Name141> Ubuntu ran worse than WindowsXP on crack
[06:49] <Name141> (Gnome)
[06:50] <Name141> With all the flippity floppity animations
[06:50] <Name141> And God knows I can't stand KDE.
[06:53] <The-Kernel> Name141 how much ram do you have? I've ran KDE fine on a Pentium CPU with 386 ram
[06:53] <The-Kernel> but like crap on a P4 with 128 ram
[06:53] <Name141> 320
[06:53] <Name141> PC100
[06:54] <Name141> Applications would take longer to run in Ubuntu also
[06:54] <Name141> er, to open
[06:54] <Name141> (Than in XP)
[06:54] <Name141> Then when they opened, they ran fair, till you started getting IMs
[06:54] <Name141> And changing windows
[06:54] <Name141> minumizing windows
[06:54] <Name141> switching
[06:55] <Name141> etc
[06:55] <The-Kernel> yeah, download the alternative install cd of xubuntu and use that
[06:55] <The-Kernel> it'll install it fine
[06:55] <Name141> Install wasn't the problem
[06:55] <Name141> All the flippity floppity was
[06:55] <Name141> I imagine
[06:55] <Name141> Like the box going to smaler box, smaller box, smaller box, program finally closes
[06:56] <Name141> or minumized
[06:56] <Name141> I only have a VooDoo3 also.
[06:57] <Name141> The-Kernel: why not just the original CD?
[06:58] <The-Kernel> VooDoo3?
[06:59] <Name141> The Video Card
[06:59] <Name141> 3DFX VooDoo3
[06:59] <Name141> 8MB
[06:59] <The-Kernel> that's like...8 mb...no acceleration...
[06:59] <The-Kernel> it has a hard time displaying CLI for crying out loud
[06:59] <Name141> Blame gateway, I tried to switch to a nVidia card but it wouldn't fit.
[07:00] <Name141> Back when nVidia first screwed us
[07:00] <Name141> er took over
[07:00] <Name141> And had the switch 3dfx to nVidia and get a discount
[07:01] <The-Kernel> what do you have? PCI?
[07:01] <Name141> AVG
[07:01] <Rynux91> AVG?
[07:01] <Name141> er
[07:01] <The-Kernel> what?
[07:02] <The-Kernel> AGP?
[07:02] <Name141> Yeah
[07:02] <Name141> But that's beside the point, isn't it?  I mean, the idea is to get off a lagged ass system.
[07:02] <Name141> And all I heard was "you should use linux, it'd run better"
[07:02] <Name141> And after Ubuntu, I have to disagree.
[07:03] <The-Kernel> try fluxbuntu...
[07:03] <The-Kernel> I have a hard time using Ubuntu on my systems
[07:03] <The-Kernel> and they're pretty cutting edge
[07:04] <Name141> My friend uses Fluxbox on his system, and he has p4
[07:04] <The-Kernel> so...I have a core 2 duo and I use CLI
[07:04] <TheSheep> Name141: well, you have to choose, either a good system or a system that will appeal to those users
[07:05] <Rynux91> hmm
[07:05] <TheSheep> Name141: ubuntu has gone the "for the masses" way
[07:05] <Rynux91> I never heard of fluxbuntu :S
[07:05] <Name141> Eh?  I liked Gnome/Ubuntu , but it just ran worse than an old mule.
[07:06] <Name141> So I search for alernatives.
[07:06] <Name141> Other than KDE
[07:06] <TheSheep> Name141: Haiku :)
[07:06] <Rynux91> there's plenty other ones out there...
[07:06] <Name141> TheSheep: I don't speak jap lol
[07:08] <Name141> The Fluxbox only has a RC release, and "sync in progress"
[07:09] <TheSheep> Name141: http://haiku-os.org/
[07:09] <Name141> I liked BeOS
[07:10] <TheSheep> shame it's still not ready
[07:10] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps, i tried using ndiswrapper 1.48 and during 'make' got a bunch of errors...?
[07:16] <Tech-Mike> no suggestions?...is there a ndiswrapper included on the xubuntu cd?
[09:28] <ukh> hm, at first sight, it appears I no longer can run Xubuntu on my old 128MB laptop (with 256MB cache).  It appears as though Xorg sucks up all memory.
[09:29] <ukh> s/cache/swap/
[09:51] <MatBoy> does someone have any idea how to set laptop-mode on AC on 100% CPU ? I had it working before on Feisty, but after thhe upgrade... I have a problem and can't get it working
[09:57] <MatBoy> mhh, ok the problem is powernowd.... cpufreq does work better if you ask me, what is the advantage of powernowd ?
[10:01] <K3rl0u4rn> hi people, I got xubuntu 7.10 last week, installed it and noticed something weird yesterday
[10:01] <K3rl0u4rn> I would actually like someone to confirm or not
[10:01] <K3rl0u4rn> here is what happens,
[10:02] <K3rl0u4rn> when I log out form XFCE, I get back to GDM
[10:02] <K3rl0u4rn> then I press CTRL + ALT + Backspace so to restart X server
[10:02] <K3rl0u4rn> weird thing is X restarts with XFCE and my old closed session, not GDM
[10:02] <K3rl0u4rn> it looks like a severe security issue
[10:02] <TheSheep> K3rl0u4rn: maybe you enabled autologin in gdm?
[10:03] <K3rl0u4rn> I did not
[10:03] <TheSheep> K3rl0u4rn: check if it's enabled
[10:03] <K3rl0u4rn> unfortunatly, I found no one to test this at #ubuntu yesterday, I guess they were thinking about a joke or something
[10:04] <K3rl0u4rn> TheSheep: I will as soon as I am at home, however, I actually got to login once after boot
[10:11] <MatBoy> K3rl0u4rn, they are not serious there if you ask me, but what you say is something I have seen on Debian before I thought
[10:11] <MatBoy> TheSheep, do you know why powernowd is prefered by cpufeqd in *ubuntu ?
[10:14] <TheSheep> MatBoy: no
[10:14] <MatBoy> TheSheep, ok :)
[10:15] <MatBoy> everything well for the rest ?
[10:23] <K3rl0u4rn> TheSheep: I tested what I said in vmware, and GDM gets back correctly. I truly don't remind having activated an auto login at home, but I will check this for sure !
[10:24] <MatBoy> wow, Gutsy is so much faster
[10:25] <vsouzajunior> hello!
[10:26] <K3rl0u4rn> MatBoy: how is it ?
[10:26] <MatBoy> K3rl0u4rn, Gutsy ?
[10:26] <vsouzajunior> I'm trying to update to Xubuntu 7.10, but the updating stopped. Could anyone give me a help?
[10:27] <K3rl0u4rn> MatBoy: I meant how can it be so faster ?
[10:28] <vsouzajunior> It is asking for the jobs to be restarted to update the PAM libraries.
[10:28] <MatBoy> K3rl0u4rn, I heard the GDM is different or something like it
[10:29] <TheSheep> vsouzajunior: just press ok
[10:29] <K3rl0u4rn> MatBoy: how is GDM involved with speed ?
[10:30] <vsouzajunior> thanks, TheSheep
[10:30] <vsouzajunior> Now it is going ahead.
[10:31] <MatBoy> K3rl0u4rn, check the logs from yesterday, someone told it there
[10:33] <K3rl0u4rn> MatBoy: where do I get the logs ?
[10:34] <MatBoy> K3rl0u4rn, no, the thememanger is faster
[10:34] <MatBoy> that's what it could be
[10:34] <MatBoy> okt 22 12:01:54 <Einsidler>	off the top of my head i'd say that might be due to xubuntu gutsy's faster theme engine
[10:34] <MatBoy> in your IRC program ;)
[10:36] <MatBoy> weird is that in Gutsy KRDC does not full size over the toppanelbar anymore with fullscreen
[10:36] <vinze> MatBoy, I have the same issue with VirtualBox on Feisty
[10:36] <TheSheep> MatBoy: what's krdc?
[10:37] <MatBoy> vinze, ok, weird, I had it before, but it was solved in some way... the nice part of krdc is that I still can use the cube when I'm in the rdp session, I can't using the Terminal Server Client
[10:37] <MatBoy> TheSheep, RDP thingie
[10:38] <MatBoy> vinze, is Virtual Box nicer ?
[10:38] <vinze> When I need VirtualBox to be fullscreen I mostly set the top panel to autohide temporarily, but obviously that's just a dirty workaround
[10:39] <vinze> MatBoy, I don't know what krdc is, it's just that fullscreen didn't work with VirtualBox too ;-)
[10:39] <MatBoy> vinze, hehe, ok :)
[10:39] <MatBoy> let's sew someone because of it
[10:39] <TheSheep> alt+f11 ?
[10:39] <vinze> :P
[10:40] <MatBoy> TheSheep, no :)
[10:41] <MatBoy> brb /me is going to get some food at the shop
[10:42]  * MatBoy will wait some time
[10:55] <qwerkus> Hello everyone
[10:55] <vinze> Hi
[10:55] <qwerkus> one question: where can you enable again some ttys under gutsy ?
[10:55] <qwerkus> (i just love my console :) )
[11:19] <thingummywut> uhh... i know how to get my screen working now
[11:19] <thingummywut> previously the bottom didn't fit to monitor area
[11:20] <vinze> thingummywut, cool!
[11:20] <thingummywut> but the way it works ain't a good one
[11:20] <vinze> Ow...
[11:20] <thingummywut> every time i start up, i must manually reconfigure xorg.conf, boot xorg, and switch monitor styles from the settings
[11:20] <thingummywut> then it works
[11:20] <thingummywut> how could i prevent xorg.conf reconfiguring itself during reboots?
[11:21] <thingummywut> i have no idea why it works when i switch 1280x1024@75Hz to 1280x1024@60Hz or vice versa
[11:21] <thingummywut> but it does
[11:30] <excalibas> hello, yesyerday i had sound, today i have no sound, i have nod done nothing (exept for updates) i dont know what to do, can someone help please?
[11:31] <excalibas> in alsamixer everything is ok...
[11:32] <curi0> Alright, I have a USB Hard Drive which I can boot from, however, there are already partitions and data on the drive. Should I use partition magic to resize and create 4 partitions: partition 1 for FAT16 syslinux, ubuntu gutsy.iso, vm file, and init file; partition 2 unallocated for ext3; partition 3 unallocated for swap? Can't forget to mention that I'm dual booting XP and Vista with EASY BCD.
[11:34] <excalibas> no help?
[11:34] <vinze> excalibas, I have no idea how to :(
[11:36] <excalibas> ups, my mistake, i hadd headphones connected :|    very sorry to bother, ( i feel ashamed...)
[11:36] <vinze> Haha, np :)
[11:38] <curi0> Alright, I have a USB Hard Drive which I can boot from, however, there are already partitions and data on the drive. Should I use partition magic to resize and create 4 partitions: partition 1 for FAT16 syslinux, ubuntu gutsy.iso, vm file, and init file; partition 2 unallocated for ext3; partition 3 unallocated for swap? Can't forget to mention that I'm dual booting XP and Vista with EASY BCD.
[12:03] <thingummywut> xorg.conf still keeps reconfigurating itself
[12:03] <thingummywut> i must get it to keep the settings i wrote ;<
[12:05] <vinze> thingummywut, have you tried finding a solution on the internet? It could very well be that someone has already encountered and solved this problem
[12:05] <thingummywut> i've tried, but i just might continue that then
[12:07] <MatBoy> vinze, did you found a way to solve the problem with the full screen yet ?
[12:07] <vinze> MatBoy, no
[12:07] <vinze> MatBoy, but I haven't really looked at a solution because I don't use VirtualBox that often
[12:11] <MatBoy> vinze, ok
[12:12] <MatBoy> vinze, should it be a xfce problem ?
[12:12] <vinze> MatBoy, I guess so (xfce4-panel)
[12:12] <vinze> But it's still odd that it's only the top panel
[12:12] <MatBoy> vinze, let me ask there
[12:12] <vinze> K
[12:12] <MatBoy> yeah indeed
[12:12] <MatBoy> vinze, btw, get a better provider ;) :P
[12:12] <vinze> ?
[12:13] <vinze> Oh, XS4All you mean :P
[12:13]  * vinze didn't choose that
[12:14] <MatBoy> vinze, hehe
[12:14] <MatBoy> vinze, you only advised :P
[12:14] <vinze> Not even that :P
[12:14] <MatBoy> vinze, hehe :)
[12:14] <MatBoy> what are you doing there ?
[12:14] <MatBoy> if i may ask
[12:14] <vinze> You mean at the computer?
[12:15] <MatBoy> no, at your work I suppose ?
[12:15] <vinze> No at home (but I am working ;-)
[12:16] <MatBoy> hehe, me too at home
[12:16] <MatBoy> I always work at home
[12:16] <MatBoy> :D
[12:16]  * vinze looks up the English word for bijbaantje
[12:17] <vinze> Too bad, can't find it, ah well, you get the point ;-)
[12:17] <MatBoy> vinze, yeah I get it
[12:17] <MatBoy> you have vacation ?
[12:17] <vinze> Yeah
[12:17] <MatBoy> damn you bastard
[12:18] <vinze> :)
[12:18] <MatBoy> how come ?
[12:18] <vinze> I'm still in high school ;-)
[12:18] <vinze> Btw, /join #xubuntu-offtopic
[12:18] <MatBoy> I'm already there
[12:18] <vinze> :)
[12:18] <MatBoy> I see something blue there :) see you there
[12:26] <thingummywut> uhh... i deleted the files xorg.conf.1 - xorg.conf.13
[12:26] <thingummywut> and only xorg.conf was left
[12:26] <thingummywut> what were those files i deleted?
[12:26]  * vinze guesses backups
[12:26] <thingummywut> some kind of back-ups?
[12:26] <thingummywut> but it seems xorg used the xorg.conf.13 as a confid file :o
[12:27] <MatBoy> vinze, backups ? I only know Push Ups
[12:27] <thingummywut> i hope it now only uses xorg.conf and it stays as it is
[12:27] <vinze> twas just a wild guess :)
[12:27] <thingummywut> gtg anyway ->
[12:27] <MatBoy> thingummywut, just reinstall xorg
[12:27] <vinze> Bye thingummywut
[12:27] <thingummywut> MatBoy, the problem was only greater when it was freshly installed
[12:27] <thingummywut> bye
[12:28] <MatBoy> huh ?
[12:30] <thingummywut> my screen was messed up. part of the bottom was outside my monitor
[12:30] <thingummywut> now i got it working, but don't know why it worked what i did
[12:31] <thingummywut> i configured it so that it had 2 1280x1024 modes, with 75 Hz and 60 Hz
[12:31] <thingummywut> then if i boot it as 75 Hz and switch to 60 Hz it works fine
[12:31] <thingummywut> now i really got to go ->
[12:31] <vinze> Bye :)
[13:44] <hollunder> hi, I have a small Thunar question: I've set up my mices side buttons to alt + arrowkey so I can use it for going back and forth. It works in firefox, but not in Thunar wheres alt + arrowkey on the keyboard works as intended.
[13:48] <hollunder> I had this problem in gnome as well, it may be an imwheel problem
[13:51] <nanonyme> anyone else having networkmanager take 100% cpu?
[13:52] <Knightlust> hmm, not me
[13:52] <vinze> Me neither
[13:55] <nanonyme> i'm having a ppc cpu though so it might be something's just borked with the binary
[13:55] <nanonyme> sigh, i wish i knew some ppc xubuntu user. would be easier to compare the stuff
[14:40] <K3rl0u4rn> i got a couple of applications complaining about not finding /usr/bin/esd, do someone know if I should just ignore it or install a specific package ?
[14:41] <vinze> K3rl0u4rn, if you miss something, you could try installing pulseaudio-esound-compat or pulseaudio-esound-compat
[14:41] <vinze> Ehm, esound is the second one :P
[14:41] <vinze> (Stupid clipboard ;-)
[14:43] <K3rl0u4rn> is it something similar to arts ?
[14:43] <vinze> Don't know
[14:43] <vinze> I just know that when I enter "esd" in a terminal these packages are suggested
[14:44] <K3rl0u4rn> ok, i gonna try, thanks
[14:50] <DavidTangye> Hi all. Has anyone 'converted' a Ubuntu installation to Xubuntu?
[14:50] <vinze> DavidTangye, you can have both installed :)
[14:51] <DavidTangye> Hi Vinze. Yes I have 'both' at present... Its Ubuntu, with the Xubuntu desktop. I want to make it an Xubuntu installation, so I can upgrade it from Xubuntu Feisty to Gutsy.
[14:52] <vinze> Why can't you upgrade it with both installed?
[14:52] <DavidTangye> ... Does that make sense?
[14:52] <DavidTangye> I can.
[14:52] <vinze> But...?
[14:53] <DavidTangye> ..But I want to effectively turn it into an Xubuntu install. I am afraid that the Ubuntu upgrade might reapply Ubuntu desktop stuff.
[14:54] <vinze> OK, wait a sec
[14:54] <DavidTangye> .. ie stuff up my Xubuntu setup
[14:54] <DavidTangye> I dont really need Gnome stuff, except maybe 1 or 2 gtk-based apps -might- prove handy.
[14:54] <vinze> DavidTangye, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce.php
[14:55] <DavidTangye> thanks. I shall check that out
[14:56] <DavidTangye> This is a 900mHz laptop, and its certainly running better with Xubuntu, about as quick as Puppy linux.
[14:56] <vinze> Nice :)
[14:56] <DavidTangye> brb. Shall check your link out.
[14:58] <vinze> I'm off running, bye
[14:58] <vinze> Good luck :)
[14:58] <DavidTangye> Ta. Hey that url is great Ta.
[14:59] <vinze> :)
[14:59] <vinze> Bye
[14:59] <DavidTangye> Funnily enuff, many of the packages are removed already .. by me.
[15:50] <Michae1> hello
[15:51] <Michae1> does anyone know how I can tell which wireless chipset I have?  It works fine but I would like to know the chipset.
[15:59] <TheSheep> Michae1: try 'lspci'
[16:02] <Michae1> that listed nothing particular so I found a command called dmesg which seems to have listed it after lots of scroller-coaster
[16:02] <Michae1> thanks though :)
[16:07] <Joakim> Hey. I want to upgrade my wine to 0.9.47 from winehq.org, but if I try to apt-get install wine -c=/etc/apt/.../winehq.list then it says that: E: Syntax error /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list:5: Extra junk at end of file. What is the problem. I opened that file with gvim, but everything seemed to be normal.
[18:45] <rij1> how do I connect to a samba network from xubuntu?
[18:58] <wbadger> rijl?
[18:58] <wbadger> rij1,
[18:58] <rij1> how i connect to a windows share
[18:59] <wbadger> sudo mount -t smbfs //compname/folder /mount/points
[18:59] <wbadger> this is how I use it
[19:00] <rij1> ty
[19:18] <vistakiller> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=887&num=1
[19:19] <Joakim> I use smbmount from smbfs package
[19:21] <emdash> okay
[19:21] <emdash> i don't _really_ have to restart to disable fglrx, do I?
[19:21] <emdash> shouldn't it be enough to kill x?
[19:27] <K3rl0u4rn> hey people, I would like to change GDM buddy icon, how do I do that ?
[19:28] <emdash> ah yeah
[19:28] <emdash> that's all i had to do
[19:28] <emdash> come on guys
[19:29] <emdash> restarting to disable a kernel driver is so _WINDOWS_
[19:39] <hirou> can somebody help me please? :)
[19:41] <hirou> help
[19:41] <hirou> :S
[20:04] <vonck7_> hirou: what's the problem? , just post the problem, and someone will probably reply even if the reply is 2 hours later.
[20:04] <vonck7_> ahh, he already left
[20:09] <thingummywut> my xubuntu just totally froze. couldn't even move the mouse cursor. could this have been because of lack of memory?
[20:13] <KlrSpz> anyone know how to set your default screensaver daemon?
[20:27] <fifafrazer> Noob question: Can anyone tell me how the ubuntu repos work... If one of the packages in the gutsy repo is coming in a new stable release, it wont be but into the gutsy repos? So all repo-updates are only security fixes?
[20:27] <KlrSpz> or bug fixes
[20:28] <KlrSpz> new packages or renaming of packages and dependancies are usually pushed to the next release afaik
[20:35] <slow-motion> hallo
[20:35] <fifafrazer> But how does the developers distinct between new features and bugfixes...
[20:36] <fifafrazer> The gutsy package of Audacious is incredibly buggy... Please don't remove xmms from the repos! :D
[21:20] <thingummywut> anyone else have/had problems with sound?
[21:20] <thingummywut> mine just disappeared. MIDI still works, but i can't adjust the volume from sound control
[21:29] <martin_> Im trying to run Xubuntu on an old laptop with VIA S3G Unichrome graphics but. I have installed Xubuntu but i cant boot untill i have installed the proper graphics drivers. I can only boot up in text mode but how do i install the openchrome drivers???? Cant find any information anywhere! Any ideas?
[21:29] <The-Kernel> !openchrome
[21:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openchrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <martin_> There is a package called xserver-xorg-video-openchrome and its in the repositoris when i search from my ubuntu machine but not when I try to install it in xubuntu on my laptop..
[21:34] <The-Kernel> !info openchrome
[21:34] <ubotu> Package openchrome does not exist in gutsy
[21:35] <The-Kernel> !info xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[21:35] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-openchrome: X.Org X server -- VIA display driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 118 kB, installed size 380 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[21:35] <The-Kernel> martin_ did you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:37] <The-Kernel> ok so martin_ you have to enable the universe line in the source.list file
[21:38] <The-Kernel> you can do this by doing the following: sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list --> uncomment the lines that have multiverse and universe in them ----> save -----> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:40] <martin_> The-Kernel: I have enabled both multiverse and universe, ive ran apt-get update but not the "upgrade"
[21:41] <brick_> hi. is there a good program for transfering files to cellphones in linux? when i connect my Sony Ericsson p1i using usb cable and "file transfermode" the mem card in the phone gets mounted, but filetransfer to the phone hangs.. to transfer 40-50mb can take as long as 30 mins, and even then only half is probobly transferd,, if i try to unmount the device i get the msg thtat there are files waiting for transfer to that device and that i should not
[21:41] <brick_> disconnect, even though the "copy" window is closed .
[21:41] <The-Kernel> run the upgrade, also which release do you have?
[21:41] <martin_> i installed the latest version xubuntu 7.10
[21:41] <eccheneso> hi!!
[21:42] <eccheneso> italian here???
[21:42] <The-Kernel> martin_ well run upgrade and then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[21:43] <martin_> ok, ill do. So the upgrade command does what? does it upgrade to the latest release or what?
[21:44] <The-Kernel> it makes sure everything already installed is up to date, and it also fixes problems sometimes
[21:44] <The-Kernel> ok bbl
[21:44] <eccheneso> i have a dlink g630 wireless pcmcia card...how can i configure a wifi network (wpa key)?
[21:44] <eccheneso> (sorry for my english
[21:46] <martin_> The-Kernel: ok its upgrading now, the thing is that when i searched for the package "xserver-xorg-video-openchrome" with the apt-cahce search command it told me that the package wasen even in the repos?
[22:01] <martin_> The-Kernel: It still says that the package does not exist even after the updrade and another update and reboot.. One thig that i noticed though was that when i update the repos the system refers to them as the dapper repos and on my other machines as the gutsy repos, perhaps thats the difference?
[22:04] <martin_> is there anywhere i can paste a picture on the web temporariarly?
[22:09] <martin_> This is what my screen looks like when i try to boot up: http://www.margus.se/pic/screen.jpg
[22:13] <martin_> The-Kernel: I had the same graphics problem during installation but during installation i could fix it with the vga=771 argument, why dosent it work when booting the system fro real? cant i just use the same vga=771 thing when booting from the harddrive?
[22:35] <martin_> Hmm, i managed to get the spash screen working by entering the vga=771 argument into the grub menu.lst but xserver still wont start wothout the openchrome drivers which i cant find..
[22:36] <Pumpernickel> !info xserver-xorg-video-openchrome | martin_
[22:36] <ubotu> martin_: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome: X.Org X server -- VIA display driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 118 kB, installed size 380 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[22:40] <alchemist_> Hi - I'm doing an in-place dist upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 - my screensaver kicked in during the process - and now I cannot log back into that X session - logging into a different X session it seems the xfce screensaver plugin was zapped by the update - am I safe to just re-start - is there anyway of checking how far into update the process it got?
[22:50] <The-Kernel> martin_ can you pastebin your source.list?
[22:52] <SatanGolga> How do i remove bcm43xx-fwcutter when it's "1 not fully installed or removed" ? it keeps popping up in the end each time I run apt-get install something
[22:54] <The-Kernel> SatanGolga apt-get remove bcm43xx-fwcutter
[22:56] <SatanGolga> thank you :)
[23:02] <slow-motion> n8
[23:19] <nikolam> Ok. Thats it
[23:19] <nikolam> How do I disable or destroy or something this Thunar
[23:19] <nikolam> it is blocking and use 100% cpu even now on 7.10
[23:21] <nikolam> Aargh
[23:26] <TheSheep> ps x | grep thunar
[23:26] <TheSheep> see the PID
[23:26] <TheSheep> and then kill PID
[23:26] <TheSheep> or kill -9 PID
[23:26] <TheSheep> hmm...
[23:26] <TheSheep> alternativelly, just killall thunar
[23:27] <TheSheep> and don't forget to report a bug
[23:32] <gerro> what does this mean "# United States (DVD) (Not synced yet)" was trying to show my friend how to download gutsy
[23:33] <TheSheep> gerro: I believe that United States is a country somewhere in Northern America, DVD is a Digital Video Disk, and "synced" is a shortcut for 'synchronized'
[23:33] <nikolam> gerro: I think it is safe to download
[23:34] <gerro> does it mean its not up to date or something? why does it say dvd though isn't that same image?
[23:35] <nikolam> (beacouse someone on the mirror put images under /DVD/ dir somewhere?) :)
[23:36] <nikolam> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/
[23:38] <nikolam> I want to use Dvd .iso without meeding to burn it
[23:38] <nikolam> I manage to loop mount it in /media/vcd
[23:38] <nikolam> How to make it vivible in synaptic/update?
[23:38] <gerro> use it for what purposes?
[23:38] <nikolam> To add it with file:// in sources.list?
[23:39] <gerro> ohh okay
[23:39] <nikolam> To be able to install packages with no need to download
[23:39] <gerro> look up program called gmount if you want a gui for it
[23:39] <nikolam> That would be great :)
[23:39] <nikolam> Thanks
[23:39] <gerro> don't know about exact commands though if you want it permanently added
[23:40] <nikolam> I know sudo mkdir /media/vcd
[23:40] <nikolam> and puting it in /etc/fstab :)
[23:40] <gerro> can your drive read dvds?
[23:40] <nikolam> i gill do gmount
[23:40] <nikolam> yup
[23:40] <gerro> it should auto mount it then you just cd /media/drive and dpkg -i *.deb or something
[23:40] <graelb>  Why would i be getting wrong fs type errors when trying to mount a windows share with -t cifs?
[23:40] <nikolam> maybe I write it one day :)
[23:41] <gerro> graelb: are you using samba or nfs?
[23:41] <gerro> graelb: isn't cifs for macs?
[23:41] <nikolam> i think windows share is samba-related..
[23:41] <graelb> well
[23:41] <graelb> ok, even if i use -t smbfs, it still gives me the same error
[23:41] <graelb> i think i remember someone telling me smbfs is deprecated in 7.10, so to use cifs
[23:42] <gerro> perhaps you forgot to umount it
[23:42] <gerro> what you mean by deprecated?
[23:42] <graelb> not supported anymore
[23:42] <graelb> at least... that's one definition of it
[23:42] <graelb> lol
[23:42] <nikolam> !samba
[23:42] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[23:43] <gerro> yeah cifs is like legacy stuff or for other OS file sharing
[23:43] <gerro> or its one of those integrated options, I remember reading about it
[23:43] <graelb> so it should be mount -t smbfs -o username=whalksad,password=asodijads //hostname/share /whereveriwanttomountit
[23:43] <graelb> right?
[23:44] <graelb> with a sudo in front of it all
[23:44] <gerro> omg I'm in your share dude
[23:44] <graelb> heh
[23:45] <gerro> can I dl some dat pr0n and oldies music?
[23:45] <graelb> nosir!
[23:45] <gerro> :P
[23:45] <graelb> there's a file i had to edit to make it work before, i had to add cifs to something irrc
[23:45] <gerro> what does irrc mean people always saying that
[23:45] <graelb> if i recall correctly
[23:46] <gerro> I thought it was like... web 2.0 irc or something
[23:46] <graelb> yeah no
[23:47] <nikolam> Hehe I found easy-mount way> gmountiso :)
[23:47] <gerro> yeah isn't that what I told you
[23:47] <nikolam> thanks
[23:48] <gerro> I just call it gmount
[23:48] <nikolam> gmountiso is the name of package
[23:48] <nikolam> ok
[23:48] <gerro> it does .img files too right?
[23:49] <gerro> but it best just to convert those over anyway so doesn't matter either way
[23:51] <gerro> ThePub: sup
[23:52] <nikolam> i dont know about .img
[23:53] <nikolam> But why not, I thing everything works with mount -o loop anyway
[23:54] <nikolam> Oh no, it is downloading from Net again.
[23:54] <nikolam> Even with dvd with file:// in apt.sources