[00:00] is there any place where I can compare benchmarks of xubuntu to see whether I could do better for my spec? [00:01] no Acorn02, kinda stuck with my keys.. [00:01] lol === ThePub_ is now known as ThePub [00:09] Hello, all! :) [00:11] When installing, I have 3 kernel choices: linux-generic, linux-image-generic, and linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic. Are these different kernels, or just one kernel and two meta packages for some special install? [00:33] Wilbur31337: When you say "choices", at what point are you being given options? Kernel installation should be automatic... [00:38] Nope, during "Installing base system" window pops up asking which kernel. [00:38] Sorry, btw, was afk. [00:38] Found the answer by RTFM. [00:39] All the same kernel, the different packages just determine what all is installed with the kernel. [00:41] The one with the version numbers is the kernel itself. The linux-image-generic package installs some modules for it, and the linux-generic option installs restricted modules also. === user1 is now known as cheeseboy [01:01] hi [01:01] Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. [01:01] gnome-mount 0.6 [01:01] how do I fix that? [01:06] hello - can anyone help with wireless probs here? I have been at this for hours and am ready to throw the old laptop in the river [01:07] hey [01:09] I'm completely newbie... using Ubuntu 7.10 (Gnome) and willing to try Xubuntu. [01:09] I tried to synaptic but it doesn't show xubuntu-desktop [01:09] or something like that [01:09] "tried through synaptic"* [01:10] Candidate: 2.50 [01:10] Version table: [01:10] 2.50 0 [01:10] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages [01:10] seems to exist. [01:10] ... [01:12] `apt-cache policy xubuntu-desktop` [01:17] nevermind, I'm just downloading it through "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop", as I learned in some forum [01:17] thanks anyway [01:28] im having some trouble with aumix on my xubuntu, im googoling and apparently im not the only one as its already reported as a bug, anyone have found and approach to solve the SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK ? [02:09] hello [02:10] i am unable to connect to google using FF, but i am able to ping it [02:11] all other websites work fine [02:13] if anyone has any help to offer, i would be appreciative :) [02:19] FF? [02:32] firefox [03:20] Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. [03:20] gnome-mount 0.6 [03:20] how do i fix? [03:21] frig what happens if u put googles ip in FF? [03:21] ill try [03:22] hm, that works perfectly [03:24] why is it only doing this with google though? [03:24] frig what error u get for google.com? [03:24] just that it is taking too long to respond [03:25] what exactky are y typing in? [03:25] exactly u* [03:25] google.com or www.google.com [03:26] wat about http://www.google.com? [03:27] same result :/ [03:28] can u search with the ip version of site? [03:29] yes i get search results [03:29] does it still say ip in url or it change to google? [03:29] it still has the IP [03:29] um [03:30] in FF prevrences under networking [03:30] is anything set? [03:30] or it say "direct connection to internet" [03:31] direct connection to the internet [03:33] theres some thing where u can only use sites ip i forget what [03:34] hm [03:34] try "googleing" it "P [03:34] :P [03:34] lol [03:34] thanks for the help [03:34] np [03:35] ill try installing opera and see if it is just firefox messing me up [03:35] frig: console - $ dig google.com ; pastebin it [03:37] k [03:38] how do i copy text from the terminal [03:38] oh nevermind [03:40] the pastebin is stuck "connecting to pagead2.googlesyndication.com" ironically [03:40] pasetbin page* [03:41] try a different pastebin [03:41] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ [03:42] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1226/ [03:43] frig: "host google.com" and "cat /etc/hosts" and "tracepath google.com" [03:45] actually, before you do that - what does "w3m google.com" show? [03:46] says its opening socket [03:46] give it a few moments [03:46] k [03:48] meh.. i'll need the other stuff [03:48] aye [03:48] pastebin it? [03:48] sure [03:52] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1227/ - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1228/ - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1229/ [03:53] the w3m google.com command returned "cant load google.com" [03:54] i wasnt sure how many times that tracepath command was going to return so i cut it off at 14, but it stopped at 31 [03:55] and told me "too many hops: pmtu 1500" and "resume: pmtu 1500" . if thats important at all [03:55] seems like it's your router# [03:55] ohh [03:55] odd* [03:56] http://192.168.0.1 and try adding opendns [03:56] it was working perfectly when i had xp on it [03:56] https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu [03:57] I'm sure that will fix the issue, on your local machine [03:57] ok, ill try that, thanks [04:24] thanks Daviey, that worked! :D [04:30] I have an acer aspire 3000 and am trying to put xubuntu gutsy on it. After the first loading screen after cd boot, my screen turns to static. [05:10] how do i install a .dmg file for mac? [05:14] no clue [05:14] !dmg [05:14] Sorry, I don't know anything about dmg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [05:14] is it even possible? [05:23] why xubuntu doesnt have shipit?? [05:24] due to lack of founding [05:25] sorry? [05:25] "Unfortunately, unlike the other Ubuntu derivatives, Xubuntu does not yet have free cds available for shipping due to lack of funding." === rob1 is now known as rob [06:42] hey [06:43] I think I may be one of those guys who can make almost any "foolproof" system burst into flames... [06:44] I need to overwrite my other version of Xubuntu on this computer... [06:44] since I really messed up the upgrade [06:49] Would the windows manager in Xubuntu work better for an old p2 450 ? [06:49] Ubuntu ran worse than WindowsXP on crack [06:49] (Gnome) [06:50] With all the flippity floppity animations [06:50] And God knows I can't stand KDE. [06:53] Name141 how much ram do you have? I've ran KDE fine on a Pentium CPU with 386 ram [06:53] but like crap on a P4 with 128 ram [06:53] 320 [06:53] PC100 [06:54] Applications would take longer to run in Ubuntu also [06:54] er, to open [06:54] (Than in XP) [06:54] Then when they opened, they ran fair, till you started getting IMs [06:54] And changing windows [06:54] minumizing windows [06:54] switching [06:55] etc [06:55] yeah, download the alternative install cd of xubuntu and use that [06:55] it'll install it fine [06:55] Install wasn't the problem [06:55] All the flippity floppity was [06:55] I imagine [06:55] Like the box going to smaler box, smaller box, smaller box, program finally closes [06:56] or minumized [06:56] I only have a VooDoo3 also. [06:57] The-Kernel: why not just the original CD? [06:58] VooDoo3? [06:59] The Video Card [06:59] 3DFX VooDoo3 [06:59] 8MB [06:59] that's like...8 mb...no acceleration... [06:59] it has a hard time displaying CLI for crying out loud [06:59] Blame gateway, I tried to switch to a nVidia card but it wouldn't fit. [07:00] Back when nVidia first screwed us [07:00] er took over [07:00] And had the switch 3dfx to nVidia and get a discount [07:01] what do you have? PCI? [07:01] AVG [07:01] AVG? [07:01] er [07:01] what? [07:02] AGP? [07:02] Yeah [07:02] But that's beside the point, isn't it? I mean, the idea is to get off a lagged ass system. [07:02] And all I heard was "you should use linux, it'd run better" [07:02] And after Ubuntu, I have to disagree. [07:03] try fluxbuntu... [07:03] I have a hard time using Ubuntu on my systems [07:03] and they're pretty cutting edge [07:04] My friend uses Fluxbox on his system, and he has p4 [07:04] so...I have a core 2 duo and I use CLI [07:04] Name141: well, you have to choose, either a good system or a system that will appeal to those users [07:05] hmm [07:05] Name141: ubuntu has gone the "for the masses" way [07:05] I never heard of fluxbuntu :S [07:05] Eh? I liked Gnome/Ubuntu , but it just ran worse than an old mule. [07:06] So I search for alernatives. [07:06] Other than KDE [07:06] Name141: Haiku :) [07:06] there's plenty other ones out there... [07:06] TheSheep: I don't speak jap lol [07:08] The Fluxbox only has a RC release, and "sync in progress" [07:09] Name141: http://haiku-os.org/ [07:09] I liked BeOS [07:10] shame it's still not ready [07:10] sup peeps, i tried using ndiswrapper 1.48 and during 'make' got a bunch of errors...? [07:16] no suggestions?...is there a ndiswrapper included on the xubuntu cd? [09:28] hm, at first sight, it appears I no longer can run Xubuntu on my old 128MB laptop (with 256MB cache). It appears as though Xorg sucks up all memory. [09:29] s/cache/swap/ [09:51] does someone have any idea how to set laptop-mode on AC on 100% CPU ? I had it working before on Feisty, but after thhe upgrade... I have a problem and can't get it working [09:57] mhh, ok the problem is powernowd.... cpufreq does work better if you ask me, what is the advantage of powernowd ? [10:01] hi people, I got xubuntu 7.10 last week, installed it and noticed something weird yesterday [10:01] I would actually like someone to confirm or not [10:01] here is what happens, [10:02] when I log out form XFCE, I get back to GDM [10:02] then I press CTRL + ALT + Backspace so to restart X server [10:02] weird thing is X restarts with XFCE and my old closed session, not GDM [10:02] it looks like a severe security issue [10:02] K3rl0u4rn: maybe you enabled autologin in gdm? [10:03] I did not [10:03] K3rl0u4rn: check if it's enabled [10:03] unfortunatly, I found no one to test this at #ubuntu yesterday, I guess they were thinking about a joke or something [10:04] TheSheep: I will as soon as I am at home, however, I actually got to login once after boot [10:11] K3rl0u4rn, they are not serious there if you ask me, but what you say is something I have seen on Debian before I thought [10:11] TheSheep, do you know why powernowd is prefered by cpufeqd in *ubuntu ? [10:14] MatBoy: no [10:14] TheSheep, ok :) [10:15] everything well for the rest ? [10:23] TheSheep: I tested what I said in vmware, and GDM gets back correctly. I truly don't remind having activated an auto login at home, but I will check this for sure ! [10:24] wow, Gutsy is so much faster [10:25] hello! [10:26] MatBoy: how is it ? [10:26] K3rl0u4rn, Gutsy ? [10:26] I'm trying to update to Xubuntu 7.10, but the updating stopped. Could anyone give me a help? [10:27] MatBoy: I meant how can it be so faster ? [10:28] It is asking for the jobs to be restarted to update the PAM libraries. [10:28] K3rl0u4rn, I heard the GDM is different or something like it [10:29] vsouzajunior: just press ok [10:29] MatBoy: how is GDM involved with speed ? [10:30] thanks, TheSheep [10:30] Now it is going ahead. [10:31] K3rl0u4rn, check the logs from yesterday, someone told it there [10:33] MatBoy: where do I get the logs ? [10:34] K3rl0u4rn, no, the thememanger is faster [10:34] that's what it could be [10:34] okt 22 12:01:54 off the top of my head i'd say that might be due to xubuntu gutsy's faster theme engine [10:34] in your IRC program ;) [10:36] weird is that in Gutsy KRDC does not full size over the toppanelbar anymore with fullscreen [10:36] MatBoy, I have the same issue with VirtualBox on Feisty [10:36] MatBoy: what's krdc? [10:37] vinze, ok, weird, I had it before, but it was solved in some way... the nice part of krdc is that I still can use the cube when I'm in the rdp session, I can't using the Terminal Server Client [10:37] TheSheep, RDP thingie [10:38] vinze, is Virtual Box nicer ? [10:38] When I need VirtualBox to be fullscreen I mostly set the top panel to autohide temporarily, but obviously that's just a dirty workaround [10:39] MatBoy, I don't know what krdc is, it's just that fullscreen didn't work with VirtualBox too ;-) [10:39] vinze, hehe, ok :) [10:39] let's sew someone because of it [10:39] alt+f11 ? [10:39] :P [10:40] TheSheep, no :) [10:41] brb /me is going to get some food at the shop [10:42] * MatBoy will wait some time [10:55] Hello everyone [10:55] Hi [10:55] one question: where can you enable again some ttys under gutsy ? [10:55] (i just love my console :) ) [11:19] uhh... i know how to get my screen working now [11:19] previously the bottom didn't fit to monitor area [11:20] thingummywut, cool! [11:20] but the way it works ain't a good one [11:20] Ow... [11:20] every time i start up, i must manually reconfigure xorg.conf, boot xorg, and switch monitor styles from the settings [11:20] then it works [11:20] how could i prevent xorg.conf reconfiguring itself during reboots? [11:21] i have no idea why it works when i switch 1280x1024@75Hz to 1280x1024@60Hz or vice versa [11:21] but it does [11:30] hello, yesyerday i had sound, today i have no sound, i have nod done nothing (exept for updates) i dont know what to do, can someone help please? [11:31] in alsamixer everything is ok... [11:32] Alright, I have a USB Hard Drive which I can boot from, however, there are already partitions and data on the drive. Should I use partition magic to resize and create 4 partitions: partition 1 for FAT16 syslinux, ubuntu gutsy.iso, vm file, and init file; partition 2 unallocated for ext3; partition 3 unallocated for swap? Can't forget to mention that I'm dual booting XP and Vista with EASY BCD. [11:34] no help? [11:34] excalibas, I have no idea how to :( [11:36] ups, my mistake, i hadd headphones connected :| very sorry to bother, ( i feel ashamed...) [11:36] Haha, np :) [11:38] Alright, I have a USB Hard Drive which I can boot from, however, there are already partitions and data on the drive. Should I use partition magic to resize and create 4 partitions: partition 1 for FAT16 syslinux, ubuntu gutsy.iso, vm file, and init file; partition 2 unallocated for ext3; partition 3 unallocated for swap? Can't forget to mention that I'm dual booting XP and Vista with EASY BCD. [12:03] xorg.conf still keeps reconfigurating itself [12:03] i must get it to keep the settings i wrote ;< [12:05] thingummywut, have you tried finding a solution on the internet? It could very well be that someone has already encountered and solved this problem [12:05] i've tried, but i just might continue that then [12:07] vinze, did you found a way to solve the problem with the full screen yet ? [12:07] MatBoy, no [12:07] MatBoy, but I haven't really looked at a solution because I don't use VirtualBox that often [12:11] vinze, ok [12:12] vinze, should it be a xfce problem ? [12:12] MatBoy, I guess so (xfce4-panel) [12:12] But it's still odd that it's only the top panel [12:12] vinze, let me ask there [12:12] K [12:12] yeah indeed [12:12] vinze, btw, get a better provider ;) :P [12:12] ? [12:13] Oh, XS4All you mean :P [12:13] * vinze didn't choose that [12:14] vinze, hehe [12:14] vinze, you only advised :P [12:14] Not even that :P [12:14] vinze, hehe :) [12:14] what are you doing there ? [12:14] if i may ask [12:14] You mean at the computer? [12:15] no, at your work I suppose ? [12:15] No at home (but I am working ;-) [12:16] hehe, me too at home [12:16] I always work at home [12:16] :D [12:16] * vinze looks up the English word for bijbaantje [12:17] Too bad, can't find it, ah well, you get the point ;-) [12:17] vinze, yeah I get it [12:17] you have vacation ? [12:17] Yeah [12:17] damn you bastard [12:18] :) [12:18] how come ? [12:18] I'm still in high school ;-) [12:18] Btw, /join #xubuntu-offtopic [12:18] I'm already there [12:18] :) [12:18] I see something blue there :) see you there [12:26] uhh... i deleted the files xorg.conf.1 - xorg.conf.13 [12:26] and only xorg.conf was left [12:26] what were those files i deleted? [12:26] * vinze guesses backups [12:26] some kind of back-ups? [12:26] but it seems xorg used the xorg.conf.13 as a confid file :o [12:27] vinze, backups ? I only know Push Ups [12:27] i hope it now only uses xorg.conf and it stays as it is [12:27] twas just a wild guess :) [12:27] gtg anyway -> [12:27] thingummywut, just reinstall xorg [12:27] Bye thingummywut [12:27] MatBoy, the problem was only greater when it was freshly installed [12:27] bye [12:28] huh ? [12:30] my screen was messed up. part of the bottom was outside my monitor [12:30] now i got it working, but don't know why it worked what i did [12:31] i configured it so that it had 2 1280x1024 modes, with 75 Hz and 60 Hz [12:31] then if i boot it as 75 Hz and switch to 60 Hz it works fine [12:31] now i really got to go -> [12:31] Bye :) === vinze is now known as vinze|lunch === vinze|lunch is now known as vinze [13:44] hi, I have a small Thunar question: I've set up my mices side buttons to alt + arrowkey so I can use it for going back and forth. It works in firefox, but not in Thunar wheres alt + arrowkey on the keyboard works as intended. [13:48] I had this problem in gnome as well, it may be an imwheel problem [13:51] anyone else having networkmanager take 100% cpu? [13:52] hmm, not me [13:52] Me neither [13:55] i'm having a ppc cpu though so it might be something's just borked with the binary [13:55] sigh, i wish i knew some ppc xubuntu user. would be easier to compare the stuff [14:40] i got a couple of applications complaining about not finding /usr/bin/esd, do someone know if I should just ignore it or install a specific package ? [14:41] K3rl0u4rn, if you miss something, you could try installing pulseaudio-esound-compat or pulseaudio-esound-compat [14:41] Ehm, esound is the second one :P [14:41] (Stupid clipboard ;-) [14:43] is it something similar to arts ? [14:43] Don't know [14:43] I just know that when I enter "esd" in a terminal these packages are suggested [14:44] ok, i gonna try, thanks === dt is now known as DavidTangye [14:50] Hi all. Has anyone 'converted' a Ubuntu installation to Xubuntu? [14:50] DavidTangye, you can have both installed :) [14:51] Hi Vinze. Yes I have 'both' at present... Its Ubuntu, with the Xubuntu desktop. I want to make it an Xubuntu installation, so I can upgrade it from Xubuntu Feisty to Gutsy. [14:52] Why can't you upgrade it with both installed? [14:52] ... Does that make sense? [14:52] I can. [14:52] But...? [14:53] ..But I want to effectively turn it into an Xubuntu install. I am afraid that the Ubuntu upgrade might reapply Ubuntu desktop stuff. [14:54] OK, wait a sec [14:54] .. ie stuff up my Xubuntu setup [14:54] I dont really need Gnome stuff, except maybe 1 or 2 gtk-based apps -might- prove handy. [14:54] DavidTangye, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce.php [14:55] thanks. I shall check that out [14:56] This is a 900mHz laptop, and its certainly running better with Xubuntu, about as quick as Puppy linux. [14:56] Nice :) [14:56] brb. Shall check your link out. [14:58] I'm off running, bye [14:58] Good luck :) [14:58] Ta. Hey that url is great Ta. [14:59] :) [14:59] Bye [14:59] Funnily enuff, many of the packages are removed already .. by me. [15:50] hello [15:51] does anyone know how I can tell which wireless chipset I have? It works fine but I would like to know the chipset. [15:59] Michae1: try 'lspci' [16:02] that listed nothing particular so I found a command called dmesg which seems to have listed it after lots of scroller-coaster [16:02] thanks though :) [16:07] Hey. I want to upgrade my wine to 0.9.47 from winehq.org, but if I try to apt-get install wine -c=/etc/apt/.../winehq.list then it says that: E: Syntax error /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list:5: Extra junk at end of file. What is the problem. I opened that file with gvim, but everything seemed to be normal. [18:45] how do I connect to a samba network from xubuntu? [18:58] rijl? [18:58] rij1, [18:58] how i connect to a windows share [18:59] sudo mount -t smbfs //compname/folder /mount/points [18:59] this is how I use it [19:00] ty [19:18] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=887&num=1 [19:19] I use smbmount from smbfs package [19:21] okay [19:21] i don't _really_ have to restart to disable fglrx, do I? [19:21] shouldn't it be enough to kill x? [19:27] hey people, I would like to change GDM buddy icon, how do I do that ? [19:28] ah yeah [19:28] that's all i had to do [19:28] come on guys [19:29] restarting to disable a kernel driver is so _WINDOWS_ [19:39] can somebody help me please? :) [19:41] help [19:41] :S [20:04] hirou: what's the problem? , just post the problem, and someone will probably reply even if the reply is 2 hours later. [20:04] ahh, he already left [20:09] my xubuntu just totally froze. couldn't even move the mouse cursor. could this have been because of lack of memory? [20:13] anyone know how to set your default screensaver daemon? [20:27] Noob question: Can anyone tell me how the ubuntu repos work... If one of the packages in the gutsy repo is coming in a new stable release, it wont be but into the gutsy repos? So all repo-updates are only security fixes? [20:27] or bug fixes [20:28] new packages or renaming of packages and dependancies are usually pushed to the next release afaik [20:35] hallo [20:35] But how does the developers distinct between new features and bugfixes... [20:36] The gutsy package of Audacious is incredibly buggy... Please don't remove xmms from the repos! :D [21:20] anyone else have/had problems with sound? [21:20] mine just disappeared. MIDI still works, but i can't adjust the volume from sound control [21:29] Im trying to run Xubuntu on an old laptop with VIA S3G Unichrome graphics but. I have installed Xubuntu but i cant boot untill i have installed the proper graphics drivers. I can only boot up in text mode but how do i install the openchrome drivers???? Cant find any information anywhere! Any ideas? [21:29] !openchrome [21:29] Sorry, I don't know anything about openchrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [21:31] There is a package called xserver-xorg-video-openchrome and its in the repositoris when i search from my ubuntu machine but not when I try to install it in xubuntu on my laptop.. [21:34] !info openchrome [21:34] Package openchrome does not exist in gutsy [21:35] !info xserver-xorg-video-openchrome [21:35]