[00:18] <i_> hello?
[00:19] <i_> Anyone home?
[00:24] <i_> LTSP problem - can anyone help?
[00:30] <kgoetz> only if you ask a questio
[00:36] <i_> LTSP working fine in Feisty - upgraded to Gutsy ... now can't have more than 6-8 thin-clients connected ... the rest don't see the server when booting up
[00:47] <i_> kgoetz
[00:51] <kgoetz> i_: what does 'don see the server' mean?
[00:53] <i_> Meaning, failing when attempting to find the DHCP server
[00:53] <i_> Gives up and boots from hard disk instead
[00:55] <kgoetz> haave you checked the dhcp servers logs?
[00:55] <i_> where would I find that?
[00:56] <kgoetz>  /var/log/dhcp/
[00:57] <i_> will have to check that at school tomorrow ... it was working find though, is this an issue with Gutsy?
[00:57] <i_> I meant to say: fine
[00:58] <kgoetz> could be. i havent used it
[01:01] <i_> OK, I'm planning to rebuild the server with Feisty ... I don't want to have to setup all the user accounts again... what files do I need to save?
[01:02] <i_> I have /home on a separate partitions so don't need to worry about that
[01:02] <kgoetz> sounds ike a lot of ork
[01:02] <kgoetz> *work
[01:02] <i_> Is it that difficult?
[01:04] <kgoetz> might be, depends on your setup
[01:04] <i_> OK, thanks for your help - I'm off
[01:04] <kgoetz> you'll need your especially since you downlgrading.. you'll wnt any user login details+email fro a start
[02:41] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: you about?
[04:11] <desertc> Hello again
[04:12] <desertc> Busy in here today.
[04:15] <desertc> What time is the meeting tomorrow?
[04:24] <LaserJock> hmm
[04:25] <LaserJock> darn it
[04:25] <LaserJock> I forgot to put them on Fridge
[04:30] <LaserJock> desertc: I think it should be at 20:00 UTC
[04:32] <desertc> I might be giving a speech at that time.
[04:32] <LaserJock> desertc: where are you located?
[04:33] <desertc> Nashville, Tennessee.  We just has a really terrific conference here called Technology and Education, which focused on Open Source solutions.
[04:33] <LaserJock> cool
[04:34] <LaserJock> I'm over in Reno, NV
[04:34] <desertc> I really want to get involved communicating the message of Edubuntu to local schools, and I hope that I can work with you all and learn approaches to talk with educators.
[04:34] <desertc> Reno is terrific, as is Carson City.  I did a lot of work in Nevada when I lived in Las Vegas.
[04:35] <desertc> Department of Education has a bunch of money there, too, from the gambling.
[04:35] <LaserJock> yeah
[04:36] <desertc> Do you think I can join some teams that would help me understand how to promote Ubuntu in my area?
[04:36] <desertc> We have 16 public high schools, for instance.
[04:37] <desertc> We probably have 10 private and religious high schools, too.
[04:37] <desertc> There's lots of effort that I can do here, and if I can follow in someone else's footsteps, then all the better.
[04:37] <LaserJock> yeah
[04:38] <LaserJock> I think plugging into the edubuntu-users mailing list and hanging out here are pretty good places to start
[04:38] <desertc> Are you a good person to talk to about this, or are you mostly technical?
[04:38] <LaserJock> the mailing list has a lot of people in your situation
[04:38] <LaserJock> I'm really pretty much on the tech end
[04:38] <LaserJock> I'm a PhD Chemistry student
[04:39] <LaserJock> I'd like to work on getting Edubuntu uni-ready
[04:39] <desertc> What is the mailinglist webpage?
[04:39] <LaserJock> but as for K-12 education I'm not really the one to talk to
[04:39] <desertc> I am really interested in K-12
[04:39] <LaserJock> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
[04:40] <desertc> That's the Free Software spot.  We need to get kids understanding open source and contributing.
[04:40] <LaserJock> RichEd-1: Richard Weideman is the Canonical Education Programme lead
[04:40] <desertc> I've chatted with him before.
[04:40] <kgoetz> desertc: hi
[04:40] <LaserJock> also David Trask is a good guy to talk to
[04:40] <desertc> kgoetz: hello
[04:40] <LaserJock> he's running a school on all Edubuntu
[04:41] <desertc> In which country?
[04:41] <LaserJock> US
[04:41] <desertc> Huh!
[04:41] <LaserJock> there's lots of Edubuntu in the US
[04:41] <LaserJock> well, maybe not *lots*
[04:41] <LaserJock> but I think Indiana is using it some
[04:42] <kgoetz> woner if RichEd-1 has been in contact with teh school in aus running ubuntu, they gave a talk at lca, so he probably did
[04:42] <desertc> Some... heh
[04:42] <LaserJock> and there's schools in Maine and New Hampsire I think
[04:42] <desertc> I attended the Open Minds Conference in Indiana.  Good folk.
[04:43] <LaserJock> if you send an email to edubuntu-users giving your situation and what you're looking for you should get some helpful responses
[04:43] <desertc> I am looking through your archives.  You have some big-name people on the list.
[04:44] <LaserJock> heh, well that's good
[04:45] <desertc> David Trask seems to be in-line with some of my ideas.
[04:45] <desertc> I have not done a lot of advocacy before, so I am looking to pair up with someone who can take me under their wing, or join up with a team who I can shadow before taking off on my own.
[04:46] <LaserJock> sure
[04:46] <desertc> I have been in many situations in the last month, at conferences and speeches, where I have been talking with educators, but I have felt that I have been underprepared on the direction to lead the discussion.
[04:47] <LaserJock> I can certainly appreciate that feeling
[04:47] <desertc> Hopefully the mailing list will help, but it seems like such a huge amount of mail generated.
[04:48] <LaserJock> really?
[04:48] <LaserJock> I guess I'm used to getting a lot of mail these days
[04:48] <LaserJock> although I have cut back
[04:48] <desertc> 210 so far this month
[04:48] <LaserJock> I'm used to ~500/day
[04:49] <desertc> How do you program when your New Mail indicator keeps going off? :)
[04:49] <LaserJock> I just check it every once in a while
[04:50] <LaserJock> just sit down and "process" for 30 min or so when I get up
[04:54] <desertc> I write David Trask an email.
[04:54] <desertc> *wrote
[07:20] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: am now
[07:29] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: are you still seeing the issue with your modem and plugging it in after login?
[07:30] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: the hsdpa modem? I haven't used it in a sine about 3 weeks ago, haven't tested with the proper gutsy release yet.
[07:30] <highvoltage> *since
[07:30] <Burgundavia> ahh
[09:18] <mwright1> Hi can anyone here help with LTSP
[09:19] <mwright1> I'd like to install ltsp in a xen instance so am wanndering whether the gutsy xen kernels support ltsp extensions such as local devices / sound
[09:30] <ogra__> buth is not happening on a kernel level, as long as the kernel provides the devices ltsp will use them
[09:42] <juliux> ogra, morning, i am sorry i forgot to send you the stickers
[09:43] <juliux> ogra, when are you flying to boston?
[09:43] <ogra> i'll survive
[09:43] <ogra> friday morning
[09:44] <juliux> ok
[09:44] <juliux> so the stickers will be one day too late :(
[09:44] <RichEd> hi ogra juliux
[09:45] <ogra> morning
[09:45] <juliux> moring RichEd
[09:46] <juliux> ogra, btw with a chance from 99,999% there will be a second german ubucon next year;)
[09:46] <ogra> cool
[09:46] <ogra> how was it ?
[09:46] <RichEd> ogra: the meeting is the late one tonight ?
[09:47] <ogra> i think so, last week we had th early one iirc
[09:47] <RichEd> according to my logs, it was the midday one
[09:47] <RichEd> we need to chat a bit about UDS ... and specs and other discussions tonight
[09:47] <ogra> right
[09:47] <ogra> i'll prepare a list of suggestions
[09:47] <juliux> ogra, it were great and funny two daies
[09:48] <ogra> great :)
[09:48] <juliux> ogra, and a lot of people
[09:48] <RichEd> do you have much on technical, or can we go straight into planning ?
[09:48] <ogra> i would have loved to come, but finishing the classmate is higher prio for me atm
[09:48] <ogra> ll i coud talk about would be classmate work, i can give a hort status about that
[09:48] <ogra> *short
[09:49] <juliux> ogra, that is why we start planing the next ubucon this year;)
[09:49] <ogra> or we can just skip tech :)
[09:49] <RichEd> well that's part of the UDS spec planning anyway :)
[09:49] <ogra> oki :)
[10:11] <majikins> hello
[10:12] <majikins> I'm tasked with implementing pc's in rural areas - edubuntu with educational software seems to be a good option
[10:14] <RichEd> majikins: indeed it is ... it has a bunch of educational applications available directly after install from CD ...
[10:15] <majikins> I'm also interested in locking the pc down
[10:15] <RichEd> as well as additional applications (including more education) easily installed from the add/remove menu option (over the internet from our archives)
[10:15] <majikins> ie only the home folder can be seen etc
[10:16] <majikins> only thing I've come up with is kde-kiosk on the forums?
[10:16] <RichEd> majikins: any *significant* change to a config requires a SU password, or membership of a SU allocated group
[10:16] <RichEd> students cannot install / remove applications, change network etc. by default
[10:17] <RichEd> ogra: kiosk mode ... what's your recommendation for majikins ?
[10:17] <ogra> sabayon
[10:17] <ogra> if he wants more lockdown capabilities than the default desktop offers sabayon and pessulus are the tools
[10:18] <ogra> i'd also consider switching to epiphany instead of firefox for better lockdow capabilities
[10:19] <ogra> (i plan that we'll ship epiphany as default browser in hardy ... it will be possbile to install it without firefox by then)
[10:19] <ogra> (currently you need to disble the firefox manu entry, ephi requires it to be installed)
[10:19] <majikins> is that just available from apt-get?
[10:19] <ogra> yep
[10:20] <majikins> they won't have internet access as yet
[10:21] <majikins> many thanks - I'll have a look at those packages
[10:21] <ogra> synaptic has a mode to save downloaded packages ...
[10:21] <ogra> you can burn that to a CD and import it to the synaptic of the non networked server
[10:22] <majikins> hoping to setup pc's before taking out - cloning hdd's once done and then taking out - but thanks for the tip
[10:22] <majikins> has anyone here got experience setting up a kiosk pc in a rural community?
[10:31] <juliux> majikins, i have installed some internet pcs
[10:32] <juliux> but on this pc firefox starts automaticly
[10:32] <juliux> because i have created an .xession file
[10:33] <majikins> no - no internet access yet - just used for office use - ie openoffice, xsane for scanning
[10:34] <juliux> then sabayon and pessuluss is the best thing you can get
[10:34] <majikins> I was also thinking of making the interface look like xp's
[10:34] <juliux> i locked down pcs for fairs in germany with sabayon and pessulus that is working well
[10:34] <majikins> is there a how-to?
[10:35] <juliux> i don't know
[10:35] <majikins> any ideas on interface or am i worrying too much?
[10:43] <majikins> thanks for the information - cheers
[14:14] <sbalneav> Morning all
[16:36] <RichEd> sbalneav dear fellow ... lend me your ear ... (or keyboard)
[17:28] <Belutz> ogra, ping
[17:29] <sbalneav> RichEd: Yes, I have one
[17:29] <ogra> Belutz, ?
[17:29] <Belutz> ogra, i just had a meeting with Intel Indonesia this afternoon
[17:30] <ogra> ah
[17:30] <Belutz> ogra, they want to bundle their classmate pc with edubuntu
[17:30] <ogra> cool !
[17:30] <Belutz> hmm i have one silly question
[17:30] <Belutz> will edubuntu fit in 2GB of NAND flash?
[17:31] <ogra> in 1Gig :)
[17:32] <Belutz> cool
[17:32] <Belutz> 1GB is already include the edu apps?
[17:32] <ogra> thats the liveCD image modified for classmate
[17:32] <Belutz> ah
[17:33] <ogra> openoffice replaced with abiword/gnumeric
[17:33] <Belutz> sorry, i rarely try the edubuntu, shame on me
[17:33] <Belutz> so it will work then :D
[17:33]  * ogra just uploaded teh modification packages for teh tweaks http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/classmate/packages/ 
[17:34] <ogra> (dont use them ... !)
[17:34] <Belutz> they asking Intel HQ to send demo units for us to play around
[17:34] <ogra> intel doesnt ahve my image yet .. they get it at UDS
[17:34] <Belutz> bookmarked :)
[17:34] <Belutz> they already have one model with mandriva 2007
[17:34] <ubotu> Mandriva bug 2007 in Installation "Switching to alternate screens during install crashes X" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2007
[17:35] <Belutz> but the mandriva community in indonesia is not heard
[17:35] <ogra> ubotu, shut up :P
[17:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shut up :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:36] <Belutz> is it ok if we add Intel logo into the edubuntu splash screen?
[17:36] <ogra> there is another image around from a company called metasys
[17:37] <ogra> i personally dont mind ... not sure if canonical has any policy about that
[17:37] <ogra> RichEd, might know
[17:37] <Belutz> yup, they told us about metasys and xp, they haven't know about mandriva yet, but i told them i saw it on their website LOL
[17:37] <Belutz> I'll ask him when his around
[17:39] <Belutz> ogra, thanks for the information, I'll keep you posted with the intel indonesia-edubuntu progress
[18:15] <LaserJock> morning Edubuntu land
[18:15] <sbalneav> Morning LaserJock
[18:15] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you catch the ubuntu-doc email about getting the bzr branches set up?
[18:16] <sbalneav> Hey, talked to mdke briefly, apparently he doesn't have access to the machine that hosts the web copy of the edubuntu handbook, so we've got the new one in the packages, and the old one on the web :(
[18:16] <sbalneav> Saw something, there a wiki page about it?
[18:16] <LaserJock> yeah
[18:16] <LaserJock> nah
[18:17] <LaserJock> mdke was able to import the whole svn repo into bzr
[18:17] <LaserJock> sounds like it took a few days
[18:17] <sbalneav> So, where
[18:17] <sbalneav> where's the bzr?
[18:17] <LaserJock> well, right now he's got it on his machine
[18:17] <sbalneav> ah
[18:17] <LaserJock> he's pushing it to launchpad
[18:17] <LaserJock> but who knows how long that'll take
[18:18] <LaserJock> but we're going to have a separate edubuntu-<release> branch
[18:36] <bdoin> I just updated to gutsy and It seems like the gcompris 8.3.2 does not run our python activities. When I run 'gcompris -D' I can see 'undefined symbol: gc_sound_pause'
[18:37] <sbalneav> Are these addons that you've added to gcompris?
[18:38] <bdoin> no, these are here from years
[18:38] <bdoin> sorry, 'for years'
[18:38] <sbalneav> So, they're included with gcompris?
[18:38] <sbalneav> I've never seen any "python activities" in gcompris
[18:39] <bdoin> yes they are but we don't display them in the menu
[18:39] <bdoin> since we cannot load the plugin
[18:41] <sbalneav> I'm sorry, I'm still unclear.  Is this something you've added to gcompris, or something that we ship?
[18:41] <bdoin> ok, let me explain it
[18:42] <ogra> sbalneav, bdoin s gcompris upstream
[18:42] <bdoin> we provide with gcompris 100 activities, some coded in C, some in python
[18:42] <sbalneav> ah, welcome!
[18:42] <bdoin> each activity is a plugin
[18:44] <sbalneav> I was just trying to figure out if this was something written locally, and suggest that maybe some interface had changed within gcompris, but if you're upstream, then you've written it all :)
[18:45] <bdoin> for the python coded activity, there is a special plugin that can load any python coded activity
[18:45] <sbalneav> So.  Then the next question is: is gc_sound_pause something that's a gcompris api?  Have we neglected to include something, maybe?
[18:46] <bdoin> but this very one fails to load due to a missing symbol in the gcompris binary. it has probably been stripped.
[18:46] <bdoin> I strongly suspect a gcc/ldd change that strips differently or better
[18:47] <ogra> i would suspect a missing dependency rather
[18:47] <ogra> some python module you use that isnt depended on in the package
[18:47] <bdoin> no, it's a gcompris symnol
[18:47] <LaserJock> bdoin: has this always been a problem or is it just in gutsy?
[18:47] <bdoin> symbol, not a dependancy
[18:48] <ogra> hmm
[18:48] <sbalneav> Maybe re-build the package and turn off stripping?
[18:48] <bdoin> we already identified this problem in gcompris 8.4 branch but for a different set of symbols, this one is new to me
[18:50] <bdoin> well, it's not really a real stripping issue. the linker removes unused symbols.
[18:53] <bdoin> nm /usr/bin/gcompris
[18:53] <bdoin> nm: /usr/bin/gcompris: no symbols
[18:53] <bdoin> strange, no symbols at all
[18:54] <ogra> there should be a debug package with the sympbols enabled
[18:55] <bdoin> ok, I install it
[19:09] <bdoin> nm /usr/lib/debug/usr/games/gcompris | grep gc_sound_pause => it's there
[19:11] <sbalneav> Does that fix the python problem?
[19:15] <RichEd> Belutz: I'm back from dinner ...
[19:15] <Belutz> RichEd, hi :)
[19:15] <RichEd> I know that Intel Indonesia want to do a ClassmatePC pilot with Edubuntu
[19:16] <Belutz> RichEd, arya contacted you right?
[19:16] <RichEd> You can check this page for the overall "management of expectations" ... the current version is *unsupported* ... and a full supported version only is projected for 8.04
[19:16] <RichEd> Arya ... yep indeed
[19:17] <bdoin> by itself installing the -dbg packet don't solve the issue
[19:17] <Belutz> yup, i was thinking that if intel could launch the edubuntu classmate pc on april 28, with the HH release party
[19:18] <RichEd> So the current "advice" is ... you can use the image for demonstration purposes and to secure design wins and for a limited proof of concept pilot, *provided* that the Intel regional office, the Vendor and the Client (school) all know that this is unsupported
[19:18] <Belutz> ok
[19:18] <Belutz> the supported one will be in 8.04
[19:18] <ogra> right
[19:18] <RichEd> The spin we are adding is that the school can "be part of an open source pilot where their feedback and experiences will add to the shaping of the future prodyuct for the benefit of all"
[19:19] <ogra> and probably be something completely different from what the current one is
[19:19] <RichEd> But they must expect and be prepared to fall over and scrape their knees every now and then.
[19:19] <Belutz> true
[19:19] <Belutz> the action plan is like this:
[19:19] <bdoin> I don't know how to run the dbg version of gcompris
[19:20] <RichEd> regarding the Intel image into the Edubuntu splash ... I'd say "Okay provided that there is no attempt to pass off the software as being "owned or produced by Intel""
[19:20] <Belutz> 1. intel will ask for demo unit from intel HQ for us to try out edubuntu
[19:20] <ogra> bdoin, it should just replace the binary
[19:20] <Belutz> 2. we try edubuntu on it
[19:20] <RichEd> It should reflect "cooperation between partner"
[19:20] <Belutz> 3. we find a school for a pilot project
[19:21]  * ogra_cmpc waves
[19:21] <Belutz> wow, ogra in cmpc? :D
[19:21] <ogra> in the new gutsy image, yes
[19:21] <Belutz> wow
[19:21] <Belutz> :D
[19:21] <ogra_cmpc> teacher@classmate:~$ df -h
[19:21] <ogra_cmpc> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[19:21] <ogra_cmpc> unionfs               951M  587M  365M  62% /
[19:21] <Belutz> it's more wow than vista
[19:21] <ogra_cmpc> (i only partitioned 1gig yet)
[19:21] <Belutz> no need for swap?
[19:21] <RichEd> Belutz: see here .... this page outlines the coordination of information
[19:21] <RichEd> https://wiki.canonical.com/AllHands/2007/Education
[19:22] <ogra_cmpc> well, dont run more than two apps at the same time
[19:22] <ogra_cmpc> especially if one of them is firefox
[19:22] <LaserJock> at least you can install stuff
[19:22] <Belutz> RichEd, the page use password
[19:22] <RichEd> We are not opposed to distributing the image ... we just want to make sure that the audience is aware of limitations and disclaimers.
[19:22] <LaserJock> I couldn't install Acrobat Reader in Windows because it ran out of memory
[19:22] <RichEd> oops ... wrong cut & paste
[19:22]  * RichEd tries again'
[19:23] <RichEd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuClassmatePC
[19:24] <bdoin> well I have a big doubt, /usr/games/gcompris works now but not /usr/bin/gcompris
[19:24] <bdoin> I wonder if my /usr/bin/gcompris comes from a make install
[19:25] <Belutz> RichEd, if we already have the demo unit, can we asked for the image?
[19:29] <RichEd> Belutz: sure ... add your request to the wiki page, with contact details ... I'll run it past Jason from Intel ...
[19:29] <bdoin> has someone confirmed the issue with gcompris or my system is unclean ?
[19:29] <RichEd> You can also mail me directly ... richard_AT_ubuntu.com
[19:29] <RichEd> Jason will act as the image coordinator
[19:29] <Belutz> RichEd, thanks
[19:29] <Belutz> i will keep you and ogra posted about this
[19:31] <RichEd> ogra / LaserJock : christopher dawson is upset that he did not get his CMPCs today
[19:31] <RichEd> http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1290
[19:32] <RichEd> check out his intended test list ... very good ... and we should take note and maybe pre-empt some potential wobblies
[19:33] <LaserJock> interesting
[19:33]  * ogra_cmpc takes a break until meeting ... 12h in a row is enough ...
[19:37] <bdoin> by the way, as you are talking about that, I have a classmate and provided a GCompris version of it to Intel.
[19:41] <RichEd> bdoin: under MS or Linux ?
[19:41] <bdoin> linux
[19:41] <bdoin> metasys
[19:41] <RichEd> ahhh ... okay
[19:42] <bdoin> there is an issue with the screen size, you need to put it in emulated 800x600 in order to have gcompris strings being readable
[19:42] <LaserJock> right
[19:42] <LaserJock> I've run a few things with it kinda ok, but the screen size is a problem
[19:43] <RichEd> bdoin: we have had some "hassles" with the small screen size ... like not being able to work with many dialogue boxes ... can't get to the Okay button etc
[19:43] <bdoin> I proposed them gcompris on windows as well but they are reluctant to put free software on windows, no idea why ;)
[19:43] <RichEd> ogra has a panel applet that compresses the screen image ... I have not see the "view quality" yet
[19:44] <Belutz> I must hang out in this channel more often :D
[19:44] <RichEd> bdoin: my kids (5 almost 6 .. and 7 almost  8) have been playing with GCompris under Edubuntu on my test CmPc
[19:45] <RichEd> from the very first CmPc edubuntu build oliver hacked together at UDS Sevilla
[19:45] <bdoin> what is a CmPc ?
[19:45] <RichEd> ClassmatePC ....
[19:45] <bdoin> ok sorry
[19:45]  * RichEd gets tired of typing it out :)
[19:46] <bdoin> so you have GC on the CmPc on Edubuntu ?
[19:46] <LaserJock> it wouldn't be any good otherwise ;-)
[20:44] <RichEd> == #edubuntu meeting == 15 mins #ubuntu-meeting == UDS Discussion for Hardy Heron Edubuntu 8.04 ==
[20:55] <RichEd> == #edubuntu meeting == 5 mins #ubuntu-meeting == UDS Discussion for Hardy Heron Edubuntu 8.04 ==
[20:58] <LaserJock> one more minute?
[20:59] <ogra> yes
[20:59] <RichEd> LaserJock: you asking when ? or asking for a delay ?
[20:59] <LaserJock> when
[20:59] <RichEd> nowish
[21:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> didnt know there was a meeting :|
[21:55] <RichEd> well today's meeting for us is yesterday for you ... so you are forgiven
[21:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[22:56] <LaserJock> btw
[22:56] <LaserJock> I just got word that edubuntu docs are now in bzr on LP
[22:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> neat
[22:57]  * Kamping_Kaiser debates the 50 hour checkout
[22:58] <LaserJock> I think I might try to make a tarball
[22:58] <LaserJock> I don't know where to put it thought
[22:58] <LaserJock> *though
[22:58] <LaserJock> maybe ogra can help me out there
[22:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> does the space LP provides only work for debs or could you place it there
[22:59] <LaserJock> well
[23:00] <LaserJock> I think they do have space for projects
[23:00] <LaserJock> I might see what I can do
[23:00]  * Kamping_Kaiser heads to LP to see if he can find the bzr
[23:01] <LaserJock> Kamping_Kaiser: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/edubuntu-hardy
[23:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> cheers.
[23:01] <LaserJock> might have to take the .edge out
[23:03] <bdoin> ogra: after a cleanup and reinstall of GCompris, the official package is fine, python activity works fine. Sorry.
[23:03] <LaserJock> bdoin: false alarm?
[23:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> LaserJock, works with the edge. should i just checkout the hardy doco?
[23:04] <LaserJock> Kamping_Kaiser: sure, give it a whirl
[23:04] <ogra> bdoin, np :)
[23:05] <bdoin> LaserJock: yes, should never trust my installation of gcompris. there have probably been a mixup with my autopackage installation
[23:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> kgoetz@wesnoth:~/public_html$ bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/edubuntu-hardy
[23:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> bzr: ERROR: Unknown branch format: 'Bazaar Branch Format 6 (bzr 0.15)\n'
[23:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, 0.15
[23:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> sigh.
[23:06]  * Kamping_Kaiser is on 0.11
[23:06] <LaserJock> shesh, get with the program man, gotta have the latest greatest
[23:06] <LaserJock> ;-)
[23:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeah yeah :| *heads to backports.org*
[23:10]  * Kamping_Kaiser grumbles about forced upgrades
[23:11] <LaserJock> Kamping_Kaiser: the bzr guys have a repo for bzr
[23:11] <LaserJock> works rather nicely
[23:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> LaserJock, i got pointed to packports.org when i asked about it yesterday (i'm running debian)
[23:12] <LaserJock> I guess that works too
[23:12] <RichEd> 'night LaserJock and Kamping_Kaiser
[23:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, night mate
[23:12] <LaserJock> good night RichEd
[23:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> speaking of which , i should get ready to go to work ;)
[23:12] <LaserJock> I will look forward to a -devel email
[23:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/edubuntu-hardy/.bzr/repository/inventory.knit: Bad status line received
[23:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[23:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> suppose this will have to be tonights download. later all.
[23:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure who to report that to, so there you all go :)
[23:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> afk.
[23:14] <LaserJock> Kamping_Kaiser: good night