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gregoroviusHi. I've got a question: I submitted a bug against gdm, but it turns out it's not gdm's fault but ubuntustudio-gdm... how can I move it or reassign it?01:32
kikogregorovius, just click on the down arrow in the task table and change it.01:39
gregoroviusthanks01:41
ubotuNew bug: #156498 in soyuz "changelog-closes-bugs should also have a just notifies-bug variant" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15649803:05
dererkHow could I get an Launchpad.net email administrator address ?03:07
ScottKFor you or to send mail to one?03:07
dererkFor contacting Administrators of Launchpad.net03:07
ScottKThe best way to do that is ask a question for the Launchpad project.03:08
dererkI spent about 20' looking for any, but the site goes around like a endless road03:09
ScottKHeh.  I understand.03:09
dererkI don't want to spend even a second to register neither to log in to anywhere03:09
ScottKAh.03:09
ScottKDunno what to tell you then.03:09
ScottKHang around here.  One will show up eventually.03:10
dererkScottK, thanks for your time 03:10
ScottKNo trouble.03:10
kikowhat's up dererk?03:13
dererkkiko, do you administrate or have any relation with launchpad.net ?03:13
kikoI do03:14
dererkcould you please pass me an email address ?03:14
dererkI want it formaly 03:14
kikodererk, kiko@canonical.com03:15
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dererkkiko, thank you03:15
kiko-zzzyou're welcome03:15
dererkhave a nice day all03:15
markybobwhat happens if your ppa build fails because of a missing build-depend?  will it be built on another machine?  the package i need is libboost-thread-dev, which is in gutsy and feisty, so i'm not sure what the problem is03:43
Hobbseedid you follow the quickstart guide?03:45
Hobbseemarkybob: no, it wont be built on another machine.  you need to fix your package.03:45
Hobbseeto fix it, you need to read and follow the entire quickstart guide.03:45
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ubotuNew bug: #156575 in launchpad "PPA builds do not create -dbgsym packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15657508:25
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norsettomorning all, is there a way to remove attachments from launchpad bugs? Some users has about 20 MB of them09:32
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Fujitsunorsetto: If you click the edit button next to each attachment, there should be an option to delete.10:06
* norsetto checks10:06
norsettoFujitsu: I think you have to member of some team which I guess I'm not, since I see no edit button10:07
Fujitsunorsetto: In the portlet on the left.10:10
FujitsuNot in the comments.10:10
norsettoFujitsu: oh yeah, how can anyone be so dumb :-)10:11
mptAnother person not seeing portlets :-/10:36
Fujitsumpt: The edit buttons aren't entirely obvious, either.10:37
FujitsuThe bugwatches have the pencil, for example.10:37
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RainCThi, can someone please remove Freevial's "nothing" series (launchpad.net/freevial/nothing/) :P12:10
mwhudsonRainCT: file a question if you don't get a response here12:13
RainCTmwhudson: yes I know, thanks :)12:14
mwhudsonRainCT: ok :)12:16
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hggdhis LP down?14:39
statikhggdh: it's working for me14:44
hggdhstatik: I get the "Please try again later"...14:44
hggdhwell, not anymore. Go figure14:45
statikhggdh: thanks for confirming. there is an upgrade later on, but it should be working right now, let us know if you see it again14:46
hggdhstatik: will do, thanks14:47
flacostebarry: reviewers' meeting?15:00
barryhowdy everyone, and welcome to the AMEU reviewers meeting15:00
mwhudsonhello!15:01
barryfor the next 45 minutes or less, well be discussing the launchpad code review process.15:01
barrywho's here today?15:01
bacAMEU!15:01
sinzuime15:01
intellectronic1me15:01
bacme15:01
mwhudsonme15:01
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flacosteme15:01
statikme15:01
BjornTme15:01
barry== Agenda ==   * Roll call  * Next meeting  * Action items  * Queue status  * Mentoring update15:02
barry * Next meeting15:02
salgadome!15:02
mwhudsonin a week's time i shall be on a plane, of course15:03
barrywell, the next meeting will be problematic as it's a travel day to boston.  i certainly won't be online.15:03
barryshall we just cancel the meeting then?15:03
statik+1 for cancelling for next 2 weeks15:03
barrystatik: good point.  i don't see any value in having a meeting here when we're all at allhands15:04
mwhudson+115:04
barryany objections for canceling the next two AMEU reviewer meetings?15:04
sinzuiI have a reservation15:04
bac+1 on canceling15:04
sinzuiWe hold the meetings in public for a public record15:04
flacostenext week is problematic15:05
flacostesince many people will be away15:05
flacosteand the usual metting period is booked at AllHands15:05
flacosteit falls in the morning 'plenary sessions'15:05
barryflacoste: right, i agree15:06
flacosteso if we still want to hold an online meeting at AllHands we'll need to move the time15:06
barryi don't see that we can do it at the regular time in two weeks, and most of us will be traveling next week15:06
barryif we still want to do it in 2 weeks time, we could slot it for 11:15 EDT session15:07
barrylet's see a vote of hands.  please respond 'cancel' if you want to cancel the session while we're at allhands, or 'reschedule' if you want to do it in 2 weeks at a different time15:07
statikcancel15:07
intellectronicado we already know what's planned for reviewer activity in UDS/AllHands - there was some talk about a training session and so on - maybe we can combine that and make an appearance here?15:08
barryintellectronica: if kiko and i can ever find some time to talk about it, we'll do something ;).  i'm not sure there's much value in being online too.  i think it will just slow us down.15:09
flacostecancel15:09
baccancel15:09
BjornTcancel15:09
intellectronicafair enough15:09
sinzuicancel15:09
salgadocancel15:09
mwhudsoncancel15:09
barrycool.  so resolved.15:10
barry * Action items15:10
barryhere are the outstanding action items from the last meeting (both us and AsiaPac)15:10
barry * jml, create a ReviewerMeetingTemplate wiki page similar to BazaarMeetingTemplate with template for minutes and instructions on preparing the email.15:10
mwhudsonjml is on leave15:10
barryjml's not here but i don't think that's done yet15:10
barry * jml to confirm that SteveA's email about using properties rather than no-arg functions on view classes is in a relevant checklist on wiki15:11
barryanyone know if that's been done?15:11
* barry thinks not15:11
barry * barry to ask jamesh to put his `pending-review` script in the tree, mthaddon to make sure it runs, statik to enhance.15:11
barryi sent a message to jamesh, cc'd statik and mthaddon.15:12
barryasking jamesh to commit pending-reviews to our tree, probably in utilities15:12
barryand mthaddon to get the script to run from there15:12
barry * statik to include [https://launchpad.net/bugs/113626 bug 113626] in his enhancements.15:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 113626 in launchpad "pending-reviews should run and display the output of make lint" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11362615:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 113626 in launchpad "pending-reviews should run and display the output of make lint" [Undecided,Confirmed] 15:12
statikthe wiki page is CodeReviewChecklist, and I think it needs to have a comment about mutable class variables added in addition to the properties vs. functions thing15:13
barryi should also have included bug 151304 on that list15:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 151304 in launchpad "Pending-reviews script should email the launchpad reviewers list when a branch misses the SLA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15130415:13
barrystatik: +1, can you or bac add that part?15:14
seb128hi15:14
statikI likely won't get to working on those reviewer script enhancements until December, due to launchpad meetings, allhands meetings, and 2 weeks of leave15:14
barrystatik: i don't think there's a huge rush15:14
statikbarry: yep, I can add two comments to the code review template if you can check them for me to make sure they are sane after I do it15:15
seb128is it possible to give open (like not restricted to the team members) write access to a team bzr branch?15:15
barrystatik: yep, will do15:15
barrystatik: just ping me15:15
barry * intellectronica to merge his patches to the `utilities/review` script15:15
ubotuNew bug: #156676 in launchpad "Please use standard ASCII quotes, not US-winkle-quotes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15667615:15
ubotuNew bug: #156677 in soyuz "Version history changelog has broken links" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15667715:16
statikseb128: we are in a reviewers meeting at the moment, which is why there is so much activity. however, I know it is possible to set up a team where anyone can join, and that might be the solution you are looking for15:16
intellectronicasorry, no news about this yet, but I'll to get it done now that cycle starts15:16
seb128statik: ok sorry, I was wondering about the meeting but the topic didn't indicate that, sorry for interupting and thanks for the answer15:16
barrystatik: one other thing (and i'll submit a bug for this), it would be nice if pending-reviews could take the milestone into account when coloring over sla branches.15:17
statikgive 'em an inch and they ask for a mile15:17
barrystatik: :)15:17
barry * Queue status15:18
barrythere are 4 branches over sla, but (after painful searching on two pages <wink>) 3 of those are for .1115:18
barryor 2 are definitely for .11, one is for .10 and one has no designation :/15:19
barryi'm not sure why we still have branches for .10 though, especially needs-review branches for .1015:19
barryanything else on queue status?15:20
barry515:20
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barry315:20
barry215:20
barry115:20
barry * Mentoring update15:20
barryso, mentor and recruits, how was hell week for you? 15:21
sinzuiAll is good for me15:21
statikI survived only because flacoste took over mentoring for me during that week15:22
intellectronicaabsolutely fine. i didn't had much of a load and got great instruction from my mentor15:22
mwhudsonit was ok for me15:22
statikam looking forward to learning some tips and tricks from sinzui in person soon15:22
bacwent well15:22
mwhudsonlarge soyuz branches are hard to review :)15:22
sinzuistatik: when pylint lands, I will have no secrets15:22
* flacoste cannot complain, allocator was gentle on me15:22
barrymentors: if anyone feels like their recruit is ready to be graduated, please email me.  it's also fine to let them go through another cycle before we decide.  no need to say anything now.15:23
barrycool, anything else?15:24
barry515:24
barry415:24
statikI have a question15:24
barrystatik: go4it15:24
statikhow many people are currently using the CodeReviewChecklist during a review?15:24
statikI have been slack about it15:24
* sinzui does15:24
statikand I just noticed something on it that I forgot to check for, and I think my reviewer forgot to check for15:24
statikso I just want to advocate remembering to look at the checklist15:24
mwhudsoni've not been using it15:25
salgadome neither15:25
barrysinzui, statik: good points.  i have been slack as well15:25
statikI might try to make a version that looks good when printed on a paper15:25
barrystatik: good idea15:25
intellectronicai mostly used it. it helped every time i did, so i learned my lesson :)15:25
sinzuistatik: salgado and I found some ambiguities in out page template documentation. We need to consolidate some pages.15:26
statiksinzui: agreed. it would be cool to do some cleanup of this in person15:26
statikthat's it from me15:26
barrystatik: thanks15:27
barryanything else on mentoring?15:27
barry515:27
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barry315:27
barry215:27
barry115:27
barrytwo quick things not on the agenda (because i suck)15:27
barry1. since the au folks changed their name to AsiaPac, i thought AMEU was more appropriate for us (and a bit catchier than EUAM).  any objections to our name change?15:28
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barry515:28
barry415:28
barry315:28
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barry115:28
intellectronicait's imperialistic15:28
sinzuiThe capitalization is wrong15:28
barryintellectronica: maybe we should go with LPA? (Launch Pad Atlantic) :)15:29
intellectronica:)15:29
mwhudsonit can be pronounced amusingly, good enough for me15:30
barrywell, if you all have better suggestions, email me :)15:30
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barry2. i just want to thank everyone for great work during hell week.  it was pretty stressful, but i think we did a great job in general as a team in getting things reviewed for .1015:31
flacostecheers everyone15:31
barrythat's it from me.  anything else?15:31
barry515:32
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mwhudsoni thought it went quite well15:32
barry315:32
mwhudsonhaving more reviewers sure seems to help15:32
barrymwhudson: yes, most definitely15:32
barrybtw, what's our current reviewer-to-developer ratio?  anyone know off hand?15:32
statikI think about 6 lbs15:33
barrystatik: :)15:33
statik:) but I don't know really15:33
flacostebarry: we are 35 in LP15:33
sinzui17:3515:33
salgadobigger than ever15:33
barryand 16 reviewers i think15:33
flacostehow many of the 17 are mentoree15:33
sinzui5?15:34
barry(i'm not counting stuart)15:34
barrysinzui: i think that's right15:34
barrycool.  okay.   i'm done.  anything else?15:35
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barryMEETING ENDS15:35
barrythanks everyone!15:35
mwhudsonthanks barry 15:35
statikthanks barry15:36
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ubotuNew bug: #156710 in launchpad "hwdb/+submit should generate and return a unique submission id" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15671016:40
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ubotuNew bug: #156719 in launchpad "Mention package name in bugmail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15671917:01
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dantheman440wow17:52
dantheman440long list of people here17:52
Spadsonly 11017:53
dantheman440lol17:53
Odd_Blokedantheman440: If you want a long list of people, join #ubuntu. :p18:00
ubotuNew bug: #156741 in launchpad "HWDB Submissions aren't marked as private when they should be" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15674118:11
ubotuNew bug: #156744 in launchpad-cscvs "bogus repository root detection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15674418:16
ubotuNew bug: #156746 in launchpad "[wish] Will be nice to have a gTalk like in Launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15674618:16
al_hey 18:36
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mdkedid anyone else get bounces from mrevell's email server today? is he aware of it?18:43
salgadomdke, yep, he seems to have sorted it out already18:44
Hobbseelooks like his stuff got sent to ubuntu-devel fine18:44
mdkeHobbsee: it was incoming mail I was talking about; mails sent to him by me18:45
mdkesalgado: cool18:45
Hobbseeoh right18:45
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ubotuNew bug: #156759 in launchpad "Include IRC nick in sprint CSV output" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15675918:50
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sistpotyhi19:09
sistpotyRinchen: thanks a lot for the PPA TOS update19:10
Rinchensistpoty, you're welcome.19:10
Rinchensistpoty, let me know if you find any problems with it19:10
sistpotyRinchen: what's still unclear to me is who should be responsible for team maintained ppa's... will each member need to sign the TOS? or will each member be responsible for his/her uploads?19:11
sistpotyRinchen: though I guess that would not necessarily be inside the TOS itself, but could be inside a FAQ or s.th.19:11
Rinchensistpoty, The team vs individual aspect we realize is not as clear as it should be19:12
Rinchensistpoty, We're going to work on that a little over the next cycle or two.19:12
sistpotyok, cool :)19:12
Rinchensistpoty, as for the PPA terms, note the modification of the wording: "This applies whether you are a team member or administrator or otherwise."19:13
Rinchenbut it's still not quite the way we want it19:13
sistpotyyes, I've seen that, that's why I don't think it would need be in the TOS itself ;)19:13
Rinchenit's meant to cover the gaps until we can work on clarifying the team vs individual aspect.  19:15
sistpoty:)19:15
Rinchen:-)19:15
ubotuNew bug: #156779 in launchpad "hwdb/+submit should provide a relevant error message when XML is invalid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15677919:41
ubotuNew bug: #156793 in launchpad-answers "Blank title problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15679320:05
ubotuNew bug: #156795 in launchpad "Shared locking in glock.py can't cope with unlink()s" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15679520:10
seb128does somebody know if it's possible to give open (like not restricted to the team members) write access to a team bzr branch?20:54
ddaait's not possible21:00
ddaawhat do you want to do?21:00
ddaamake a world-writable branch?21:00
seb128ddaa: yes21:07
seb128ddaa: I want to have the merges and updates desktop lists on bzr21:08
seb128ddaa: and let anybody claim an update21:08
LeRoutierHello21:09
LeRoutierIs that possible that PPA is strictier than linda+lintian ? (wrt BuildDeps)21:09
pochuLeRoutier: is it in universe?21:10
LeRoutieryep21:11
LeRoutierLooks like it can't find a dep that is already in my PPA21:11
pochuin debian/control, use "Section: universe/foo"21:11
LeRoutierOh, that.21:12
LeRoutierno, already added universe/ to sections21:12
LeRoutierhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~leroutier/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all21:13
LeRoutieraspecialy this log : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10124532/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.swfdec-mozilla_0.5.3-0.1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz21:13
leroutier_In PPA, about 'Pending (xxx)' message. Is lower better (higher priority) or worse (lower priority) ?21:38
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ddaaseb128: i think the the simplest would be to make a public team21:42
ddaathat anybody can join21:42
seb128ddaa: ok, I'm going to abuse desktop-bugs then21:47
ddaaseb128: that sounds like it would involve receiving bugspam21:47
ddaathat might or might not be what you want21:47
seb128ddaa: no, we have a mailing list configured for the team which gets the mails21:48
seb128or nobody would subscribe, the amount of desktop bug mails is no fun ;-)21:48
lamontLeRoutier: build priorities are highest number first22:12
lamontif that's what you are asking about22:12
LeRoutieryep, was that. thanks22:12
LeRoutiershould go to #ubuntu-motu to ask for a sponsored upload ?22:13
lamontto universe, yes22:16
lamontand probably for main too...22:16
LeRoutierk, thanks.22:16
LeRoutierPPA package removal has been postponed to 1.0.11 ?22:17
LeRoutieroh, I see older versions of packages are automatically removed22:18
LeRoutierthat's good22:18
* lamont is not lp team, just a user22:20
tgm4883_laptopis there a status update for launchpad calendar?  (ie, i saw that it was disabled, has it been re-enabled yet?)22:24
mpttgm4883_laptop, it's been removed entirely22:43
tgm4883_laptopah22:43
tgm4883_laptopany plans on it coming back?22:43
mptNot as far as I know22:44
tgm4883_laptopok, good to know22:44
mptWould having a calendar make Launchpad more useful for you?22:44
tgm4883_laptopat least being able to d/l it in ical would22:44
tgm4883_laptopsomehow linking the milestones of a project to that calendar22:45
mptah, that's an interesting idea22:45
mptWe wouldn't need a full-blown calendar for that22:45
mptHave you reported a bug about it? I can if you like22:46
tgm4883_laptopI haven't22:46
tgm4883_laptopif you could that would be great22:46
tgm4883_laptopI think it would be a good idea.  Currently, we would have to start a google calendar and input everything in there22:47
tgm4883_laptopand make sure that they stayed the same22:47
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mptdone, bug 15685722:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 156857 in launchpad "Make project's milestones/releases available in ical format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15685722:51
tgm4883_laptopawesome, thanks22:58
ubotuNew bug: #156857 in launchpad "Make project's milestones/releases available in ical format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15685723:00
LeRoutierAnyone know a way to force debuild to include .orig.gz file into .changes ? (for upload)23:15
FujitsuLeRoutier: debuild -S -sa23:15
LeRoutierthanks, trying it now23:15
LeRoutierworks wonderfuly23:16
LeRoutierAre there PPA people around ?23:45
LeRoutierA source packet directly went to Published without the xen machines even trying to build them23:47
LeRoutierpacket not even listed into build history23:47
stdinit should be published before it enters the build queue23:51
stdinit normally takes about 5-10 mins to enter the build queue for me23:52
LeRoutierah, ok. So source package is marked published long before build starts23:57
LeRoutierThen, bug #156872 would be closed as invalid very fast23:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 156872 in launchpad "PPA: packaged passing from uploaded to published without trying to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15687223:57

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