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_MMA_Too dark/scary? http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Misc/winged_angel_ubuntustudio.png :)04:00
_MMA_(not final just a idea)04:01
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nothlit`alpha_MMA_: i would stay away from that sort of imagery unless emo/goth/troubled artists are your main userbase12:58
_MMA_nothlit: Not "main" but part of. It says "rock" to me. And why do they have to be "troubled"? :)13:23
kwwii_MMA_: might be a bit too devilish for default but the style of it is really nice13:28
kwwiitroy_s: can you give me larger versions of your gutsy wallpapers so that I can put them in the package?13:29
kwwiilassegul: which one of your springer pics would you like to include in the package?13:32
nothlit_MMA_: its a bit dark... bat wings, dark angel, skull, tortured pose, mockery of religious imagery13:46
nothlitfine for the rebel crowd but people who want may want to use uS professionally would be turned off imo13:47
nothlitlassegul: give him the dark background version! :D13:47
_MMA_nothlit: Thing is, the "pro crowd" I feel wont like our concept anyway. I'm not trying to put this in. Just a fun idea. ;)13:51
nothlit_MMA_: i don't know, if you give them something that makes them feel like a rebel without being too devilish :P13:52
kwwii_MMA_: I think that if the image itself was a bit "nicer" the style is perfect and it would work well14:03
nothlitregardless, while you don't ever have to aim for that crowd i wouldn't turn them off14:04
nothlithow much say does canonical have over your art direction?14:04
_MMA_F'em. I wanna be scary!! rrraawwww!!!!!14:05
_MMA_Canonical has 0 say in our art direction.14:06
kwwii:p14:07
_MMA_:D14:07
kwwiinow you know why the kubuntu artwork is so much more fun for me14:07
_MMA_Yep.14:07
kwwiihey joe, where you going with that gun in your hand14:11
_MMA_lol.14:11
_MMA_(like he hasnt heard and I havnt said, that 100 times) :)14:12
kwwiiwait till my son figures out why I named him joe :p14:12
_MMA_:D14:13
_MMA_kwwii: Because you like Joe Piscopo?14:14
_MMA_kwwii: Though this image is a little creepy it looks really cool on screen. :)14:16
kwwii_MMA_: lol, exactly14:25
_MMA_;)14:26
kwwii_MMA_: are you still interested in that pic we talked about yesterday?14:41
_MMA_Totally.14:42
kwwiicool, I am going to head out and see what I can do14:43
kwwiibbl14:43
_MMA_Cool. :)14:46
lassegulhi people14:59
* _MMA_ waves.15:00
lassegulkwwii: the dark version is the best imo. Can I send it to at 16:00 UTC? Connection trouble at home etc..15:02
lassegulkwwii: or do you need itnow?15:02
* _MMA_ now realizes that not having a swap partition when exporting to bitmap large .SVGs was a bad idea.16:02
mhbkwwii: hmm, I am not happy to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyIconTheme18:26
mhbHuman had really a lot of potential ... it was the one thing I always liked about Ubuntu, when I started using it, the icon seemed so nice18:26
mhb(it was around Dapper I think)18:27
mhbstupid USA not giving me a visa ... now I cannot be there discussing it18:28
mhb:o(18:28
kwwiimhb: sorry for that, but we will be online as well18:32
mhbkwwii: right, I hope I can make it, its quite hard because of the time zone changes18:33
nothlitsabdfls in the classroom right now, anyone gonna ask him about artwork direction, whether he would hire a design firm and give them full creative control etc?18:34
kwwiinothlit: I don't see that happening18:36
mhbthe original Human icons were creatd that way, werent they?18:38
mhbbut I think if they have kwwii they wont hire a firm for the artwork18:38
mhb.o)18:38
kwwiithey were created by one artist at a company18:39
nothlit`alphathe point is to ask as to make the issue more apparent rather than actually get it =p18:39
kwwiiwe are looking for artists18:39
kwwiinothlit: yes, but saying it like that sounds like I am doing a bad job :p18:39
nothlit`alphaIconFactory, same guys that do xp/vista/norton i think, etc18:39
_MMA_"kwwii: we are looking for artists" Arent we all? :) I just dont see any one or two people being able to step up and do it. :(18:42
kwwii_MMA_: yeah, finding a good artist is the hardest part18:52
kwwiibut luckily we are also willing to pay someone when we find them18:52
kwwiibut even then, finding someone to pay to work on linux is hard18:52
_MMA_kwwii: Thing is, finding someone and delivering the work to me in a 6 month period is a tall order.18:59
kwwii_MMA_: yepp, no doubt19:05
darkmatterburp!19:11
kwwii_MMA_: I am working on the pics I took today, any specific ideas or should I send you thumbnails first so that you can get an idea first?20:00
_MMA_Thumbs are cool.20:00
_MMA_Im up for anything. :)20:00
kwwiithey look pretty cool in black and white, not sure about the color20:00
kwwiiI went to two stores and took pics of two players...it was somewhat hard as they were all under counters, etc20:01
_MMA_Ahh....20:01
kwwiiall in all I have 50 pics but many of them are very similar, only slight differences in angle, depth of field, etc20:01
kwwiiand the store with the nice looking (and clean) player only let me put "the police - synchronicity" on it :p20:02
_MMA_Cool. I trust you to weed through them. Maybe thumb the ones you think are good and host them somewhere so I can peek.20:02
_MMA_Awesome. :)20:03
_MMA_kwwii: You should be in #ubuntu-classroom now.20:03
_MMA_Oh well. Might be over now.20:04
kwwii_MMA_: what did I miss in #ubuntu-classroom?20:10
_MMA_kwwii: Just a art question.20:16
_MMA_"QUESTION: not to be critical but speaking of default themes are there any thoughts or plans to do a really professional and attractive default theme - something to rival the "other" OSs?"20:16
kwwiihehe, like someone would answer "no, we want it to look crappy"20:17
kwwiiman, scaling 50 pics down to 400x400 from 12MP takes quite a while20:18
nothlitare you using RAW as well?20:20
_MMA_Personally I do when I can.20:22
kwwiiyepp20:22
kwwiiI only use raw20:23
_MMA_Theres a nice Nautilus script that will resize pics.20:23
_MMA_I cant remember if it does RAW though.20:23
kwwiimy camera is so new that nothing supports it raw format except proprietary apps20:24
_MMA_Really? RAW isnt Raw?20:24
kwwiiI have bibble pro for linux but I still likke lightroom better :p20:24
kwwii_MMA_: nope, several companies (the ones with the best cameras) use a proprietary raw format20:25
kwwiisony, canon, nikon, fuji, etc20:25
_MMA_bah20:25
kwwii_MMA_: by the way, I talked to a friend of mine who owns a guitar shop. I thought about popping over there tomorrow and taking some pics20:26
_MMA_Ubuntu Studio just ships ufraw and gimp-ufraw. Should we do something like rawstudio instead?20:26
_MMA_kwwii: Awesome. Go for it. :)20:26
nothlityeah raw is kinda proprietary, thats why each version of photoshop gets more/new raw support20:27
kwwiirawstudio looks pretty cool20:28
kwwiiseems to support quite a bit of formats20:28
_MMA_Im just unsure of the best "free" way to support RAW.20:28
kwwiiI have tried the ufraw gimp stuff, works pretty well I guess20:28
_MMA_Ok.20:29
kwwiigimp itself is simply not set up to edit photos as well as it could20:29
kwwiireally, you need a special app only for photos20:29
_MMA_If I had Mark money... ;)20:29
_MMA_Oh! jcastro is on board for finding some rock club/bar in Boston. :)20:30
kwwiiyeah, thursday night should be a lot of fun20:30
kwwiiwe can finally have that growling contest20:30
_MMA_Just hope Jono or I can find something cool.20:31
_MMA_lol \m/20:31
kwwii_MMA_: where should I send the pics to?20:34
kwwiiwait, I'll put 'em on my server20:34
_MMA_k20:34
lassegulfinally - i got online again. sending you springer dark now.22:23
kwwiilassegul: cool22:29
kwwiigot it, thanks22:32
lassegulkwwii: is it sufficient?22:32
kwwiilassegul: definitely, I have also included borders3-1680x.png if it is ok for you22:36
lassegulgoodie. thx22:37
kwwii;-)22:38
kwwiithanks go to you22:38
* _MMA_ paints a pentagram on the channels floor and tries to invoke the one who is terlmann.23:08
lassegulhe hasnt been around lately?23:09
_MMA_Nope.23:09
nothlitprobably not for a week or two23:09
lassegulonly the legend lives on?23:09
_MMA_Thankfully.23:09
lassegulthe great artist with the heart of gold, who acted as a muse for all his friends at #ubuntu-artwork23:10
_MMA_:p23:10
lassegulthat how i will remember him23:10
_MMA_Anyone wanna come take a shower with me?23:12
lassegulnothlit was saying something about wanting to go23:12
_MMA_Going once..23:12
_MMA_ twice..23:12
_MMA_:)23:12
* _MMA_ is feeling way too silly atm.23:13
lassegulim getting my internet connection back tomorrow :D23:13
_MMA_\m/23:14
* _MMA_ -> shower/food.23:15
lassegulglhf23:15

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