[00:10] <williammanda> hey guys
[00:11] <williammanda> how do i get / put videos under the "watch videos"?
[00:13] <foxbuntu> williammanda, you need to put them in the directory that you set MythTV to use for videos, and then once they are there open the video manager to update the DB
[00:15] <williammanda> ok ty
[00:56] <williammanda> another question....
[00:56] <williammanda> when the master backend gets restarted....the slave backend doesn't reconnect automatically...how can I change that?
[00:57] <williammanda> I have to manually restart the slave backend
[00:59] <foxbuntu> williammanda, you could setup a cron job to make sure its connected and restart it if its not
[01:00] <foxbuntu> williammanda, why do you have more than one backend?
[01:00] <williammanda> seems like i remember a option in setup to wake the slave
[01:00] <foxbuntu> williammanda, oh correct
[01:00] <foxbuntu> mythtv-seutp i believe it is
[01:00] <williammanda> I have four front / backends....one master and three backends
[01:01] <foxbuntu> wow...that seems excessive
[01:01] <foxbuntu> but ok
[01:01] <williammanda> what do i type in the field to wake the slave backend?
[01:01] <foxbuntu> williammanda, you will have to look it up..I am not sure, never used it
[01:01] <williammanda> ok ty
[01:13] <hendrixski> has anybody here tried to run mythtv in a chroot before? know of anything special that needs to be done for the database to not crap out?
[01:35] <tgm4883> hendrixski, I don't know off hand anyone that has
[01:36] <tgm4883> why are you trying to do that?
[01:37] <hendrixski> tgm4883, to develop
[01:37] <tgm4883> ah
[01:38] <tgm4883> you may want to try over in #mythtv-users or #mythtv (which i think is the mythtv development channel).  Or were you planning on developing for mythbuntu directly?
[01:42] <pdragon> hmm... just noticed something weird. the PCM volume in alsamixer keeps resetting to the default level every time i commercial skip, change channels, pause tv or do anything that stops/starts playback
[01:43] <pdragon> had it turned up cause the volume was kinda low. noticed the volume went down after i skipped a commercial
[01:43] <williammanda> tgm ...hey
[01:44] <williammanda> when the master backend gets restarted....the slave backend doesn't reconnect automatically...how can I change that?
[01:44] <williammanda>  I have to manually restart the slave backend
[01:44] <tgm4883> williammanda, back in a sec
[01:44] <sslashes> superm1: around?
[01:44] <tgm4883> williammanda, doesn't it periodically check?
[01:45] <williammanda> not sure
[01:45] <williammanda> how would i know?
[01:45] <sslashes> superm1: give https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/mouse-idle-hide a look when you get a chance
[01:47] <williammanda> by the way...i ended up buying an LG tv.....works great
[01:48] <magicrobotmonkey> hi i just upgraded to gutsy and I seem to be getting poorer video playback performance with gutsy then I had on fiesty - its kind of choppy now
[01:48] <williammanda> i went to best buy and took my computer and tested all the tv's i was interested in
[01:48] <magicrobotmonkey> i tried tweaking some of the playback settings, but nothing really helps
[01:48] <magicrobotmonkey> wow thats dedication
[01:50] <williammanda> i got tied of bring home 42" tvs
[01:50] <williammanda> tired
[01:50] <magicrobotmonkey> heh good point
[01:50] <williammanda> was on the 4th tv
[02:04] <solarbaby> I'd love to get my Hauppage 350's TV out working
[02:05] <solarbaby> right now I just use a couple of Xbox's no real complaints there though
[02:24] <irie> hope this is an easy one to answer, when i view the channel guide i have no station logo's.  all i see is the channel number with 'g Chan' below it.  how can i get the station logo's to show in the channel guide
[02:27] <pdragon> it doesn't come with channel icons by default
[02:27] <pdragon> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons
[02:27] <pdragon> can use that guide to get them
[02:27] <pdragon> not sure if the bug is still there
[02:28] <irie> thank you
[02:28] <tritium> MitoTranin: filed a bug on MCC
[03:02] <jtmoney> i don't get it... is there anyway to install mythtv using mythbuntu (added to my kubuntu installation) without xfce being installed?
[03:04] <Daviey> jtmoney: sudo apt-get install mythbuntu-control-centre
[03:05]  * Daviey bed
[03:05] <jtmoney> Daviey: that's what i did, but when i enable primary backend, frontend, and kubuntu, it installs xfce
[03:05] <Daviey> hmm.. i really need to go to bed.. maybe someone else can help
[03:05] <jtmoney> okay
[03:05] <jtmoney> thanks anyways
[03:05] <Daviey> (it's 3am) nn
[03:05] <jtmoney> gotcha
[03:12] <jtmoney> hmm, looks like mythbuntu automatically installs xfce
[03:12] <jtmoney> oh well, i'll give it a shot
[03:23] <yotux> Looking for a Giga nic any suggestions?
[03:25] <MitoTranin> a cheap one with a high QoS rating :)
[03:26]  * MitoTranin suggests google
[03:26] <yotux> MitoTranin:  I have bought two cards and they seem not to be working
[03:27] <yotux> I see them but they will not pull ips
[03:27] <MitoTranin> well then wouldn't THAT be the more apropriate question?
[03:27] <MitoTranin> and, I will point out the topic...  that isn't anywhere near what this channel is for
[03:28] <MitoTranin> BUT, if you really do want to know what cards are good/bad/ugly, then google around for a few review sits
[03:28] <yotux> well mythbuntu is going to be using my Giga Nic to server the media
[03:28] <MitoTranin> *sites
[03:28] <yotux> ok
[03:28] <MitoTranin> a quick google search gives:  http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gigeth32bit/gig-eth-32bit-2.html
[03:29] <MitoTranin> as for what type of nic would work best with mythbuntu, you'd be better off asking in #ubuntu rather than here
[03:29] <yotux> ok
[03:37] <malocite> Good evening all
[03:38] <malocite> I am just in the process of installing mythbuntu 7.10 on my mythbox, which is hooked up to a crt television through vga but the display is all garbled when it tries to install
[03:41] <malocite> anyone here?
[03:44] <MitoTranin> did you try to install using the safe mode graphics?
[03:49] <malocite> yes i did :(
[03:50] <malocite> when I do that, it does the same thing, after about 3 or 4 minutes a blue screen comes up and says that my screen has failed more than 6 times
[03:50] <MitoTranin> then you're going to have to connect it to a standard computer monitor for the initial install and then move it to the TV after the install
[03:51] <malocite> I can ctrl alt f2 into a different login,
[03:51] <MitoTranin> the included drivers can't use all the functions of the graphics cards due to driver issues
[03:51] <malocite> does the mythbuntu installer use the standard xorg.conf file?  I could use the settings from the previous installation there
[03:52] <MitoTranin> linux distributions generally refuse, and in some cases are not allowed, to use restricted drivers for nvidia or ati fresh out of the installation
[03:52] <MitoTranin> restricted because nvidia and ati refuse to release their source code to their drivers, or allow the linux community to know how to properly program drivers to work with their hardware
[03:52] <malocite> yeah, I don't need them too, its just an intel integrated chip
[03:52] <MitoTranin> that is the difference between free and Free
[03:53] <MitoTranin> well, intel has the same problems sometimes...
[03:54] <MitoTranin> anyways, the only solution if the safe mode doesn't work is to connect it to a real monitor, install the system using the restricted drivers if available for your hardware, and then move it back to the TV later
[03:54] <MitoTranin> making sure that you configure the xorg properly for your tv before you change it back over
[03:54] <malocite> hmm, I can't remember how I got around this when I installed 7.04 on there
[03:55] <MitoTranin> you probably used the ubuntu alternate cd, but that's not available for mythbuntu
[03:55] <malocite> i just went and skrrewed up the 7.04 version :)
[03:55] <malocite> what is on the alternate cd?
[03:55] <malocite> I think I just used the same cd as I did for this machine
[03:55] <MitoTranin> it allows for a text-based install
[03:55] <malocite> (this being the one I am using now)
[03:55] <MitoTranin> non-livecd installation
[03:56] <malocite> Mito: No, it was a graphical install.... I remember the joy of trying to guess what was beyond the 640x480 display :)
[03:57] <MitoTranin> ...  My suggestion is to connect it to a real monitor and go from there...
[03:57] <MitoTranin> if you want to figure out a way to do it otherwise, that's fine... but I cannot help with that
[03:57] <MitoTranin> someone else in here might...
[03:58] <MitoTranin> but not I... (and not because I don't want to, but because I have many other things going on right now, and I really am not familiar enough with your system and/or how to get it to work otherwise)
[03:59] <malocite> :)
[03:59] <malocite> thats fine
[03:59] <malocite> I was just wondering if the installation took its data from the xorg.conf file for the screen types and resolutions
[03:59] <malocite> I figured I could skrew around from there
[03:59] <MitoTranin> I would assume so
[04:00] <MitoTranin> are you trying to upgrade a system or do a fresh install?
[04:00] <malocite> fresh install
[04:00] <malocite> the old version is really skrewed
[04:00] <malocite> I tried to get creative :)
[04:02] <MitoTranin> then I would really suggest moving the pc to a location that can use a real monitor temporarily until you get the system installed and working with the right drivers :)
[04:02] <MitoTranin> but yes, it sounds like the livecd auto-config is not properly configuring the xorg.conf file
[04:03] <MitoTranin> if you were to find a way to configure that properly, it should work
[04:04] <malocite> yeah, I may have to - the problem is the pulling everything apart.... but it would seem I may not have much of a choice.... my concern is doing the install, and then just having this happen as soon as I hook it up to the tv
[04:06] <MitoTranin> is it possible to bring a monitor to the system rather than take the system to a monitor?
[04:07] <MitoTranin> that way you can set it up for dual-display first to make sure it works
[04:09] <malocite> the machine only has one monitor plug
[04:09] <malocite> its not a dual-monitor setup
[04:09] <malocite> the tv has vga in,
[04:19] <tgm4883> malocite, what kind of tv?
[04:29] <malocite> ok
[04:29] <malocite> well, I've found a bug :)
[04:29] <malocite> neato :)
[04:29] <tgm4883> ok
[04:29] <malocite> ALright, (its a 32" RCA CRT HDTV) btw
[04:29] <malocite> I took my lcd monitor over to the other side of the room and started up the mythbuntu install
[04:30] <malocite> got it to the graphical portion, then changed the resolution to 800x600
[04:30] <malocite> then boom, unplugged the lcd, plugged in the ol' tv, and whamo
[04:30] <malocite> it came up no problem
[04:30] <malocite> so something with the installer is not setting the right screen resolution
[04:31] <tgm4883> are you in the live env or have you already installed?
[04:31] <malocite> the install is going now, does that mean its in the live env? (I assume thats envelope)
[04:31] <tgm4883> environment
[04:31] <tgm4883> but yea
[04:31] <tgm4883> it is
[04:31] <malocite> yes
[04:31] <malocite> its in that
[04:32] <tgm4883> sounds like the tv is giving crap edid data
[04:32] <tgm4883> hmm
[04:32] <malocite> impossible
[04:32] <malocite> RCA is flawless in everyway
[04:32] <tgm4883> well of course
[04:32] <tgm4883> so is sony
[04:32] <malocite> they even saved a kitten from a tree just last week
[04:32] <malocite> :)
[04:32] <malocite> sony put the kitten there
[04:32] <tgm4883> lol
[04:33] <malocite> so, you think the tv was sending out funny data to the installer?
[04:33] <tgm4883> sorta
[04:33] <malocite> cause the old 7.04 installer (not mythbuntu, just straight ubuntu) didn't have this issue
[04:33] <tgm4883> I actually think it wasn't sending any data
[04:33] <malocite> the tv?
[04:33] <tgm4883> yea
[04:34] <malocite> yeah, I don't think it was, but isnt that why you set the resolution in the installer when you start?
[04:34] <tgm4883> well the installer is pulled from Ubuntu
[04:34] <tgm4883> and I had heard about some funky stuff happening when theres no data
[04:34] <malocite> hmph
[04:34] <tgm4883> such as way to high a resolution
[04:35] <tgm4883> so i'd file a bug if I were you
[04:35] <malocite> well, I am sure there is not a huge rush to fix this problem
[04:35] <malocite> how many people have CRT HDTV's with VGA inputs? :)
[04:35] <malocite> but I will file the bug,
[04:35] <malocite> I support open source
[04:35] <tgm4883> huge problem or little problem, thats what triage is for
[04:35] <malocite> mostly by using it, and regularly complaining about it :)
[04:35] <malocite> switched from xp ..... back in June
[04:36] <malocite> now I only have an XP partition for video editing for my business, and of course... games :)
[04:36] <tgm4883> good to hear
[04:36] <tgm4883> sounds like you need a console :)
[04:37] <malocite> :)
[04:37] <malocite> I do
[04:37] <malocite> but you show me the Xbox that can run Red Alert 2 :)
[04:37] <malocite> question, I am at the myth portion of the setup
[04:37] <malocite> it wants to know the ip address.... it is set to 127.0.0.1
[04:38] <malocite> but the ip for that machine is 192.168.1.101 - SHould I just leave it as the default?
[04:41] <tgm4883> isn't there C&C for the 360?
[04:41] <malocite> dunno
[04:42] <tgm4883> malocite, are you planning on running multiple mythtv machines?
[04:42] <malocite> but I'm poor
[04:42] <malocite> not initially
[04:42] <malocite> (see previous answer)
[04:42] <malocite> eheh
[04:42] <tgm4883> eh, set it to the actuall ip address (192.168.1.101).  Ideally you will want a static IP address, although I prefer static DHCP
[04:43] <Pogonip> installed mythtv on gutsy, but mythconverg didn't get setup, anyone know why?
[04:43] <malocite> ahhhh balls - guess whos screen resolution just went skrewy
[04:44] <malocite> gotta take this monitor back - brg
[04:44] <malocite> brb
[04:44] <tgm4883> Pogonip, what do you mean didn't get setup?
[04:44] <Pogonip> There is no mythconverg database.
[04:44] <tgm4883> how did you install it?
[04:44] <tgm4883> mythtv that is
[04:45] <Pogonip> I used synapic package manager
[04:46] <tgm4883> well what did you install though?  What package?
[04:47] <Pogonip> give me a second so i can look
[04:50] <malocite> well, - after the install it made resolution 1400x1200
[04:50] <malocite> changed it to 800x600 - rebooted, and it stuck
[04:51] <tgm4883> sounds good
[04:51] <malocite> so, I'll be submitting that ol' bug :)
[04:51] <tgm4883> is that your native tv resolution?
[04:55] <Pogonip> tgm4883, i installed lib-mythtv-0.20,mythbackend, mythtv-backend-master,
[04:57] <Pogonip> Nautical,7
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> what about mythtv-database?
[05:00] <Pogonip> Let me try.
[05:01] <Pogonip> command not found.
[05:03] <tgm4883_laptop> i meant is it installed
[05:03] <Pogonip> Sorry, yes it is.
[05:05] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[05:05] <tgm4883_laptop> and the database doesn't exist?
[05:05] <tgm4883_laptop> is mysql server installed?
[05:06] <Pogonip> Yes, SQL server is installed and I can log in as root.
[05:06]  * superm1 wanders in aimlessly
[05:06] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, have you seen any issues with the database not being created?
[05:07] <superm1> tgm4883, only if the person set a root password
[05:07] <Pogonip> I'm starting my laptop now too. I installed it on my laptop and the mythfrontend opens, but I never looked to see if mythconverg existed.
[05:08] <tgm4883_laptop> did you set a password for the mysql server?
[05:09] <Pogonip> I need to use a password to open sql if that's what you mean.
[05:10] <tgm4883_laptop> then thats why theres no database
[05:10] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, whats the work around for that?
[05:11] <Pogonip> Nice catch by the way.  That's the difference between the two systems.
[05:12] <tgm4883_laptop> Pogonip, superm1 knows everything
[05:13] <Pogonip> You narrowed this one down pretty damn fast.  I'm impressed.
[05:14] <tgm4883_laptop> well theres certain things that if you know to look for it does that
[05:15] <superm1> yes there is
[05:15] <superm1> dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[05:15] <superm1> and enter your root password
[05:15] <superm1> that you set
[05:16] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[05:16] <tgm4883_laptop> so that will ask for the root password then
[05:16] <tgm4883_laptop> i was wondering if it would
[05:16] <superm1> yup
[05:16] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[05:16] <Pogonip> Still this was really fast work.
[05:17] <tgm4883_laptop> we aim to please :)
[05:17] <Pogonip> Works great.  Thanks again.
[05:19] <Pogonip> Let me say one more time.  GOOD JOB.  That was really impressive.
[05:19] <superm1> thx :)
[07:30] <bronson> Does mythbuntu offer a way to set up my remote control?
[07:30] <superm1> yes
[07:30] <Wy|laptop> yes
[07:30] <bronson> Or am I going to have to get friendly with /etc/lircd.conf?
[07:30] <bronson> Oh good.
[07:30] <bronson> Why can't I find it?
[07:30] <superm1> open up mythbuntu control centre
[07:31] <Wy|laptop> what remote?
[07:31] <Wy|laptop> use the lirc config on the mythbuntu control center
[07:31] <superm1> and on the remote tab see if its listed there
[07:31] <bronson> Hauppauge Gray, PVR 350
[07:31] <superm1> yeah thats in there
[07:31] <bronson> Closest I could get was Hauppauge TV.
[07:31] <superm1> yeah
[07:31] <bronson> Only 4 buttons work -- the rest are all messed up.
[07:31] <bronson> Up, down, left, right -- those work.  :)
[07:31] <superm1> several people have reported similar issues.
[07:32] <superm1> bronson, you can grab a lircrc
[07:32] <superm1> from the web
[07:32] <superm1> and replace ~/.mythtv/lircrc and ~/.lircrc
[07:32] <superm1> for some reason that remote didnt' generate very nicely
[07:32] <bronson> got it.  OK, I can do that.
[07:32] <bronson> superm1: thanks.
[07:32] <superm1> bronson, would you mind reporting a bug on that
[07:32] <superm1> against mythbuntu-lirc-generator
[07:33] <superm1> i think several people have mentioned it,
[07:33] <superm1> but not anyone have reported it
[07:33] <superm1> foxbuntu, ^
[07:33] <Wy|laptop> =) So when are we going to get an autoinstall of lcdproc? :P
[07:33] <superm1> hardy
[07:33] <foxbuntu> superm1, thanks
[07:34] <Wy|laptop> superm1: :(
[07:42] <tafkaz> hi...just wanted to say, that i got my remote working yesterday...the Hauppauge Nova-s Plus one...
[07:42] <tafkaz> i just took my old hardware.conf and lircd.conf
[07:43] <tafkaz> but...the wrong device was configured in hardware.conf....changed it to the right input/eventn and everything worx now
[07:47] <tafkaz> now i will struggle through xorg Konfiguration (which is also broken) but i think i am quite happy now
[08:19] <cbrunner> hey
[08:20] <superm1> hi
[08:20] <CCB0x45> when I try to install mythbuntu
[08:20] <CCB0x45> it loses video
[08:20] <CCB0x45> like goes to the "lirc not configured"
[08:20] <superm1> CCB0x45, are you adj2375 on the forums?
[08:20] <CCB0x45> it has video and then says my video driver
[08:20] <CCB0x45> no...
[08:20] <CCB0x45> im not
[08:21] <superm1> oh ok nvm, someone just posted something similar there
[08:21] <CCB0x45> I just finished building this machine
[08:21] <CCB0x45> and I was looking through the forums
[08:21] <CCB0x45> but couldnt find anything
[08:21] <superm1> CCB0x45, this is when you are booting the live disk?
[08:21] <CCB0x45> its is running on vesa at 800x600
[08:21] <superm1> that this happens
[08:21] <CCB0x45> yea
[08:21] <CCB0x45> booting from the cd
[08:21] <superm1> so let me see if i understand right
[08:21] <CCB0x45> amd 64
[08:21] <superm1> you boot the cd in normal graphics mode
[08:22] <CCB0x45> yea
[08:22] <superm1> and then it goes through and does the boot splash
[08:22] <superm1> comes up and does the GUI load?
[08:22] <CCB0x45> yup
[08:22] <superm1> or it sticks at a console
[08:22] <CCB0x45> ok
[08:22] <CCB0x45> it goes to the boot screen
[08:22] <CCB0x45> but I cant use any keys for some weird reason
[08:22] <CCB0x45> so I wait the 25 seconds
[08:22] <CCB0x45> and I assume it is selecting the first one, start or install myth
[08:22] <CCB0x45> then goes through the loading screen
[08:23] <CCB0x45> and gives me a message after flickering a few times
[08:23] <CCB0x45> saying ubuntu is running
[08:23] <CCB0x45> in low graphics mode
[08:23] <superm1> okay
[08:23] <superm1> so here is what you need to do
[08:23] <CCB0x45> do you want to configure, blah blah
[08:23] <superm1> you need to get it to boot into safe graphics mode
[08:23] <CCB0x45> haha
[08:23] <CCB0x45> ok
[08:23] <CCB0x45> I wanted to try that
[08:23] <CCB0x45> but my damn keyboard doesnt work during the boot part
[08:23] <superm1> usb?
[08:24] <CCB0x45> for some weird reason, it works in the bios
[08:24] <CCB0x45> yea
[08:24] <CCB0x45> usb
[08:24] <superm1> in your bios
[08:24] <CCB0x45> and it works in the configure stuff
[08:24] <superm1> is there a legacy usb setting?
[08:24] <CCB0x45> sec let me reboot
[08:24] <CCB0x45> do I want that on or off?
[08:24] <superm1> on
[08:25] <CCB0x45> there is usb keyboard storare support
[08:25] <CCB0x45> which I can enable
[08:26] <CCB0x45> I dont see a legacy one
[08:26] <superm1> storare?
[08:26] <CCB0x45> storage sorry
[08:26] <superm1> keyboard storage?
[08:26] <CCB0x45> usb keyboard/storage support
[08:26] <superm1> how does that make sense?
[08:26] <superm1> oh yes
[08:26] <superm1> that's it
[08:26] <CCB0x45> haha
[08:26] <CCB0x45> ok cool, rebooting
[08:27] <CCB0x45> ah
[08:27] <CCB0x45> now it works
[08:27] <CCB0x45> haha one problem solved, thanks
[08:27] <CCB0x45> I am so stoked, hadnt built a pc in forever and just built the sickest myth tv box
[08:28] <superm1> awesome :)
[08:28] <CCB0x45> and I had forgotten to plug in this second power jack to my motherboard
[08:28] <CCB0x45> and it had this vga error
[08:28] <CCB0x45> and everyone was saying in forums that the bad boards of my kind
[08:28] <CCB0x45> had it
[08:28] <CCB0x45> and I was ready to just rip it apart and send it back
[08:28] <CCB0x45> and saw that little missing jack
[08:28] <CCB0x45> haha
[08:28] <superm1> its always the low tech solutions that work out
[08:29] <CCB0x45> the last time I had built a pc there was only one ATX power jack
[08:29] <CCB0x45> not 2
[08:29] <CCB0x45> some tiny little one
[08:29] <CCB0x45> ok myth tv is still booting
[08:29] <CCB0x45> oooh
[08:29] <CCB0x45> different colors
[08:29] <CCB0x45> flashin
[08:30] <CCB0x45> nice
[08:30] <CCB0x45> it got to the gui
[08:30] <CCB0x45> I can install, thanks a ton man
[08:30] <superm1> okay have fun! :)
[08:30] <CCB0x45> but does this mean I am only gonna be able to run in 800x600?
[08:30] <superm1> Not at all.
[08:30] <superm1> during install you are offered to do proprietary drivers
[08:30] <superm1> or you can do them post install
[08:30] <CCB0x45> when I tried the nvidia drivers
[08:31] <CCB0x45> in the configure app
[08:31] <CCB0x45> and did test
[08:31] <CCB0x45> it crashed it down to the promp too
[08:31] <superm1> those aren't the proprietary ones
[08:31] <superm1> those are the open source nvidia ones
[08:31] <superm1> that were failing the first time around any way
[08:31] <CCB0x45> oh nice
[08:31] <CCB0x45> sweet
[08:32] <CCB0x45> the other thing was from some reason on my tv
[08:32] <CCB0x45> it like cuts off part of the bottom
[08:32] <CCB0x45> its an HD tv
[08:32] <CCB0x45> but none of the tv like horizontal stuff
[08:32] <superm1> worry about adjusting that after you have proprietary drivers on
[08:32] <CCB0x45> affects it?
[08:32] <CCB0x45> ok
[08:32] <CCB0x45> cool
[08:33] <CCB0x45> this is a really nice install
[08:33] <CCB0x45> they did a great job
[08:33] <superm1> (i'm one of they) :)
[08:34] <CCB0x45> haha nice job
[08:34] <CCB0x45> really well done, havnt used linux in forever
[08:34] <CCB0x45> im a programmer for apple in cupertino
[08:35] <CCB0x45> figured id finally try one of these myth tv boxes
[08:35] <superm1> neat :).
[08:35] <CCB0x45> you think standard is cool for me
[08:35] <superm1> depends on what your goals are for this box
[08:35] <superm1> you can add all the options under advanced later
[08:35] <superm1> if you so decide
[08:35] <CCB0x45> ok cool, I think its a pretty straightforward box
[08:36] <CCB0x45> alright im gonna push through this, thanks so much man im stoked
[08:36] <superm1> hope it all works out well
[08:36] <superm1> if your new to myth though, you'll probably be pretty confused by the last step
[08:36] <superm1> step 15
[08:36] <superm1> grab the pdf from the website
[08:36] <superm1> and it will walk you through it
[08:37] <CCB0x45> ok cool
[08:37] <CCB0x45> its asking to configure my remote
[08:37] <CCB0x45> and Its a remote I got with my hauppage 150
[08:37] <CCB0x45> but there is 3 hauppage ones
[08:37] <CCB0x45> is it just hauppage tv?
[08:37] <superm1> there is a hauppuage tv option
[08:37] <superm1> i believe
[08:37] <CCB0x45> ok
[08:37] <CCB0x45> cool
[08:38] <superm1> out of curiosity what do you work on programming for apple?
[08:39] <CCB0x45> pro apps
[08:39] <CCB0x45> work on some stuff shared by all the pro apps
[08:39] <CCB0x45> final cut studio etc
[08:39] <superm1> ah neat
[08:39] <superm1> common libraries and such
[08:39] <CCB0x45> yep
[08:40] <CCB0x45> a lot of "such" haha
[08:40] <CCB0x45> if im planning on using HDMI out
[08:40] <CCB0x45> or DVI ou
[08:40] <CCB0x45> out
[08:41] <CCB0x45> I dont need TV out set up do I?
[08:41] <superm1> then dont configure tv out
[08:41] <superm1> those show up as digital normal outputs
[08:41] <superm1> after the nvidia driver activates
[08:41] <CCB0x45> if I wanted to use maybe one or the other
[08:41] <CCB0x45> can I set it up
[08:41] <CCB0x45> and both will work?
[08:41] <superm1> well i'd say only plug in one for now, and worry about setting up both after you've got it working properly on one
[08:42] <superm1> because you'll have to deal with video overlays, and stretching across multiple displays
[08:42] <CCB0x45> ok so you can configure tv-out later on
[08:42] <superm1> deciding which ones does what
[08:42] <superm1> yeah
[08:42] <CCB0x45> ok cool
[08:42] <CCB0x45> are all the options pretty much like that?
[08:42] <CCB0x45> aside from partitioning of course
[08:42] <CCB0x45> and stuff like that
[08:42] <superm1> what do you mean "like that"?
[08:43] <CCB0x45> nm
[08:43] <superm1> that they can be changed later?
[08:43] <directhex|work> competition!
[08:43] <CCB0x45> just realised there wasnt any more options
[08:43] <CCB0x45> after that one haha
[08:43] <directhex|work> the ubuntu-mce lot have picked up on my ps3 remote driver
[08:43] <CCB0x45> yea I meant like they can be changed later pretty easily
[08:43] <CCB0x45> I saw that ps3 remote working with linux on digg
[08:43] <superm1> CCB0x45, yeah a majority of them
[08:43] <CCB0x45> nice job
[08:43] <superm1> directhex|work, linky?
[08:43] <CCB0x45> ok cool
[08:44] <directhex|work> superm1, http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/programming/28/
[08:44] <CCB0x45> directhex was that you on digg?
[08:45] <CCB0x45> oh wait nm
[08:45] <CCB0x45> that was a pc wireless thing working on ps3
[08:46] <directhex|work> CCB0x45, pc wireless thing working working = no shit, sherlock
[08:46] <directhex|work> you could use a xbox 360 pad if you swing that way fer chrissakes!
[08:47] <CCB0x45> haha
[08:47] <superm1> directhex, you talking about the the UMC team picked it up?
[08:48] <directhex|work> superm1, comment #1. actually, looks like http://ubuntu-mce.blogspot.com/ has nothing to do with ubuntu mce. bah.
[08:49] <directhex|work> now i don't feel bad that my driver sucks!
[08:50] <superm1> haha
[08:57] <CCB0x45> is it possible to have like myth tv running on the main screen hooked up to the box but operate the box in a desktop like mode in vnc from another box?
[08:58] <superm1> you can do it that way, not out of the box immediately, but its configurable
[08:58] <superm1> also if you quit mythfrontend momentarily, you will be at a desktop
[08:59] <CCB0x45> ah and then just have a desktop vnc?
[08:59] <CCB0x45> cause I probably wont have a keyboard hooked up
[08:59] <superm1> well the VNC that you can install/configure via mcc runs for all of X
[08:59] <superm1> so your entire session shows up as VNC
[08:59] <superm1> and you can quit myth and use it in desktop mode if you fancy
[08:59] <CCB0x45> cool
[09:00] <CCB0x45> ok cool that works fine
[09:00] <superm1> or you can start another vnc only X server
[09:00] <superm1> your call
[09:00] <superm1> once you are up and running after the first boot, look at the mythbuntu control centre
[09:00] <superm1> and you can see a little more how to configure things
[09:01] <CCB0x45> yea
[09:01] <CCB0x45> im in it right now
[09:01] <CCB0x45> playing around with stuff
[09:02] <CCB0x45> for the remote to work do you have to do the generate dynamic button mappings?
[09:03] <superm1> no you dont
[09:03] <superm1> the hauppauge remote i've heard has some bad default mappings too from the dynamic generation
[09:03] <superm1> you may need to grab a lircrc to replace ~/.mythtv/lircrc and ~/.lircrc with
[09:03] <CCB0x45> ok
[09:03] <CCB0x45> ill worry about that in a bit
[09:04] <CCB0x45> where do you set up the wireless?
[09:04] <CCB0x45> I found it nm
[09:04] <CCB0x45> doesnt see any wireless networks though
[09:05] <CCB0x45> is there a way to check if my wireless card is working?
[09:05] <superm1> networks will show up right there if it finds them broadcasting an ESSID
[09:07] <CCB0x45> like on my macbook I see like 8 wireless networks
[09:07] <CCB0x45> I put a wireless card that supposably has linux drivers
[09:07] <CCB0x45> in the box
[09:07] <CCB0x45> and it looks like when I tried to type in
[09:07] <CCB0x45> the wireless network to connect to, it froze it
[09:07] <CCB0x45> haha
[09:08] <superm1> well that's not too good :(
[09:08] <CCB0x45> reboot
[09:08] <CCB0x45> is there a way to see what ubuntu is detecting for my wireless card?
[09:08] <superm1> well i'm going to be getting to bed myself.  it's a wii bit late here right now.  if you don't sort things out, post to the forums ok? :)
[09:08] <CCB0x45> sure
[09:08] <CCB0x45> thanks a lot for your help
[09:08] <CCB0x45> have a good one
[09:09] <superm1> no prob, good night~
[09:25] <Confuzed> can anyone tell me why I have no screensaver hacks shown in my gnome-screensaver preferences... I can have it random or blank... no other options listed
[09:25] <Confuzed> I did install xscreensaver-data and a few others
[15:17] <arcticblue> Running Mythbuntu here...  I turned on my PS3 today and to my surprise, my MythTV box showed up on it.  Well, recorded TV and stuff works, but I live in Japan so everything recorded is saved with a Japanese filename.  This causes the UPnP server some confusion and it sends garbled text to my PS3.  Any way to get the UPnP server to send the Japanese characters?  (configuring utf-8 support maybe?)
[15:18] <arcticblue> Also, should a bug be filed about this?
[15:18] <bendailey> articblue: this should probably be checked with mythtv direclty
[15:18] <bendailey> I am checking for an existing bug right now
[15:19] <directhex|work> arcticblue, do your shows get listed as 0 minutes long in XMB?
[15:20] <arcticblue> Yeah
[15:21] <arcticblue> But I don't mind.  I'm just happy it worked so easily.  If I could just read which show I was picking, it would be even better :P
[15:21] <sslashes> superm1: up late, maybe up early too?
[15:22] <directhex|work> arcticblue, well, i'd look at reporting a bug about both issues into the Myth bug tracker - it'd be great to make myth as good as it can be for media center use
[15:22] <MythbuntuGuest61> hi, what is the dynamic remote mapping in the mythbuntu control?
[15:23] <arcticblue> thanks, I'll do that.  MythTV already is great for media center use (definitely better than it was this time last year), just a few rough edges to smooth out.
[15:26] <arcticblue> i was wondering what the dynamic remote mapping was too.  My first thought was "This sounds like it will walk me through configuring the buttons on my remote ("Push the button for 'Stop', etc)", but it doesn't seem to do anything at all.
[15:26] <MythbuntuGuest61> hm
[15:27] <MythbuntuGuest61> is there a wiki or so where i can search for it
[15:27] <arcticblue> I'm not sure.  New to mythbuntu myself.  Recent Knoppmyth convert.
[15:27] <arcticblue> Wish I kept my Knoppmyth remote config around.  The config for the grey hauppauge remote that was included with it was perfect.
[15:28] <MythbuntuGuest61> hm hm ^^
[15:31] <arcticblue> where would be the best place to file bugs for mythbuntu be?
[15:32] <arcticblue> nvm
[15:43] <arcticblue> bugs submitted
[15:43] <arcticblue> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/156691 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/156689
[15:57] <bronson> superm1: sorry, was asleep.  :)
[15:57] <bronson> Sure, I'll report a bug.
[15:58] <bronson> I assume you want it against "Mythbuntu, Ubuntu derivative focused upon MythTV" on launchpad.net
[17:13] <solarbaby> I remember there are a certain amount of programs needed to install things with make file.. but I dont remember which programs I need to download
[17:14] <solarbaby> growl
[17:14] <solarbaby> I should have taken better notes the last time I installed
[17:15] <pdragon> the build-essential package has the minimal ones needed
[17:15] <solarbaby> Thats right.. I remember that, Thanks!
[17:16] <solarbaby> Im sure glad there are people like you here, with a good memory
[17:17] <superm1> growl is available in linux now adays?
[17:17] <superm1> really?
[17:17] <solarbaby> weirdo
[17:17] <solarbaby> maybe I should have stated it like this *GRowl*
[17:17] <superm1> haha.  growl is probably one of the neatest apps for OSX
[17:17] <superm1> so that would have made my day today if i found out it was ported :)
[17:17] <solarbaby> Oh I've still never actually owned a Mac, just help Mac users when something go wrong hehe
[17:18] <solarbaby> superm1: have you seen this? http://www.templetons.com/brad/myth/tvwish.html
[17:18] <superm1> solarbaby, a long time ago i did
[17:19] <superm1> but neer used it at all
[17:19] <solarbaby> superm1: I am just getting ready to compile and use.. I hope it doesn't mess stuff up
[17:19] <solarbaby> superm1: I like some of his ideas
[17:20] <solarbaby> superm1: actually I like most of his ideas
[17:22] <solarbaby> superm1: In your opinion, now that Ubuntu has become what it has, is there much reason for you to stay with Mac hardware seeing as Ubuntu can be run on inexpensive hardware?
[17:22] <superm1> solarbaby, i dont have mac hardware at all :)
[17:23] <superm1> i tried OSx86 for a little bit
[17:23] <solarbaby> superm1: do you run OSX on anything other then mac?
[17:23] <superm1> solarbaby, yeah i was running it on a thinkpad for a bit
[17:23] <superm1> and saw a few things that i liked
[17:23] <solarbaby> How do I try that?
[17:23] <superm1> but overall not worth the switch
[17:24] <solarbaby> does OSx86 just expire on you as soon as you get it configured? heeh
[17:24] <superm1> solarbaby, it was a fairly complicated process (not worth the effort in the end imo)
[17:24] <solarbaby> superm1: good to know.. and point taken
[17:24] <arcticblue> since we're talking about macs, has anyone upgraded to leopard?
[17:24] <superm1> its not out i thought?
[17:24] <superm1> until Friday?
[17:24] <arcticblue> it's been released...trust me
[17:25] <superm1> oh then i dont follow the news dates closely enough
[17:25] <superm1> :)
[17:25] <arcticblue> not officially
[17:25] <superm1> i thought it was 26th
[17:25] <superm1> oh not officially
[17:25] <superm1> of course :)
[17:25] <arcticblue> get what i'm saying *wink wink*
[17:26] <arcticblue> i'm trying to upgrade now, but it's giving me a hell of a fight
[17:26] <arcticblue> keeps saying that it can't install to my hard drive and that i need to completely format it first.  wtf?  i think it has to do with bootcamp
[17:27] <solarbaby> ok build essential is installed but make install still gives me "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."
[17:27] <solarbaby> i think I remember Automake or something
[17:27] <solarbaby> maybe I need that
[17:28] <pdragon> ready for friday, superm1? :)
[17:28] <superm1> pdragon, not at all
[17:28] <solarbaby> any suggestions from the penut gallery?
[17:28] <superm1> i've got a lot to do between now and then too
[17:28] <pdragon> any leading questions you want thrown in there? ;)
[17:29] <pdragon> solarbaby: did you run ./configure?
[17:29] <solarbaby> the directions didn't say to do that
[17:29] <solarbaby> so I didn't
[17:29] <pdragon> hmm
[17:30] <pdragon> some packages have that script and some don't
[17:30] <solarbaby> this is what im installing http://www.templetons.com/brad/myth/tvw-install.html
[17:30] <pdragon> see if there's an executable file called that in the folder
[17:30] <pdragon> i personally don't know much about compiling programs outside the configure/make/make install stuff
[17:30] <solarbaby> ok
[17:31] <solarbaby> Im an idiot.. I was sitting in the wrong directory
[17:31] <solarbaby> *Smile*
[17:31] <solarbaby> *Blush*
[17:33] <solarbaby> It seems to work..  there is a Pilot episode of Las Vegas sitting in my Upcomming Recordings List..
[17:33] <solarbaby> this is going to be kewl..  I wish Mythtv build in all these features
[17:35] <pdragon> wow that is cool
[17:40] <solarbaby> pdragon: are you referring to the tvwish program? yeah it seems awesome
[17:41] <solarbaby> pdragon: I feel like I stumbled upon a real Gem
[17:41] <pdragon> yeah. might have to give that a try
[17:41] <solarbaby> pdragon: it seems to work alright..  seeing as a Pilot just appeard
[17:50] <pdragon> if that could be implemented into the scheduler, i think that's like one of the only things left that TiVo does that Myth doesn't
[17:54] <solarbaby> Yeah
[17:54] <solarbaby> I was using SageTV a few years back, and I could do it with that, and I really enjoyed it
[17:55] <solarbaby> course SageTV sucks compared to MythTV
[17:55] <pdragon> i had a basic DVR appliance for a little while. Was pretty much a digital VCR, nothing fancy
[17:55] <pdragon> mythtv is the first thing like it i've tried
[17:56] <solarbaby> yeah,  I've got a Basic PVR with Dish Network, and it just serves as a backup in case Myth crashes..  it only records a handful of my favorit TV shows, and Mythtv records that, and everything else
[17:57] <solarbaby> I suspect that soon I will have to figure out how to Record in HDTV, which im not looking forward too, but all the other TV tuners in my house are HD
[17:58] <solarbaby> It'll be insane how much I can record with 2 tuners
[17:58] <solarbaby> actually..  I'd need a big hard drive in the HD one, probably a 750 gig would work well
[17:59] <pdragon> hehe yeah. i have too much to watch now with just one tuner!
[17:59] <solarbaby> Im still trying to get through Deep Space Nine.. haha
[17:59] <pdragon> more HD tuners should start coming out next year after the february cut-off (even tho it's not mandatory anymore)
[17:59] <solarbaby> not to mention I just got Buffy The Vampire Slayer and SG-1
[18:00] <solarbaby> as soon as Myth tells me they recommend 1 piece of hardware very highly because it works perfectly, is the time I think I'd like to buy one
[18:00] <pdragon> i'm waiting to see what haupaugge (sp?) comes out with
[18:01] <solarbaby> thats what I did with my Hauppauge 350.. bought that years ago
[18:01] <pdragon> i just got a 150 for now
[18:01] <solarbaby> High Five on that one
[18:01] <solarbaby> the 350 was a good idea..  I still haven't gotten TV out to work in Myth, so I use my Xbox's for now..
[18:01] <solarbaby> I may just end up buying a small form factor video card with TV out and go that route
[18:02] <arcticblue> with XBMC?
[18:02] <solarbaby> Yeah, I use the XBMCMythtv.py and I also downloaded Xebian Linux and load up the MythTV frontend from time to time since that has more options
[18:03] <solarbaby> If I could leave the xbox off, I'd be happier though.. less heat, noise, electricity
[18:03] <arcticblue> I tried the XBMC frontend option yesterday actually.  But, because all my recording are Japanese, it wouldn't play them because the filenames were all garbled.
[18:03] <solarbaby> Oh crap, thats a new one
[18:03] <solarbaby> haha
[18:03] <solarbaby> sorry to hear it
[18:04] <arcticblue> I tried to put a Japanese font on it, but it didn't work too well.  I'm going to try the linux frontend next week maybe
[18:04] <solarbaby> you could always try the Xebian Mythtv frontend.. its REALLY EASY to install
[18:04] <arcticblue> Does it work well?
[18:04] <solarbaby> Yeah, if you dont mind waiting 4 minutes for it to boot up..  its stable
[18:04] <solarbaby> it works with the most recent version of MythTV which makes me very happy
[18:04] <arcticblue> That's good.  I was worried about the 64MB of RAM limitation
[18:05] <arcticblue> bonus question... Does it work well with the Xbox remote?
[18:06] <solarbaby> http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Xebian_HOWTO  this is where I got it
[18:06] <solarbaby> It works out of the box with xbox remote
[18:06] <arcticblue> Thanks.  I'll check that out
[18:07] <solarbaby> Its the most easy install I've ever made..  you just ftp it to your E partition and load it up..  setup your frontend settings like ip address mysql user id and password and your in
[18:07] <arcticblue> sweet
[18:07] <arcticblue> well, i have to get back to fighting with leopard now...  away i go
[18:07] <solarbaby> l8r
[18:08]  * pdragon is listening to the sabdfl 
[18:08] <kidbluz> I am considering switching from a CentOS 5 install to MythBuntu
[18:09] <kidbluz> I have a PVR-350, 250 and use LVM
[18:09] <solarbaby> I dont know about CentOS but Mythbuntu is simply amazing and I love it
[18:09] <kidbluz> First question: Can I preserve the LVM partitions where my recordings are during setup?
[18:09] <solarbaby> Wrong guy for those kinds of questions.. sorry
[18:10] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[18:10] <tgm4883_laptop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584473
[18:10] <tgm4883_laptop> LVM ^^^
[18:11] <kidbluz> tgm: thanks.  So after that, essentially it's just a matter of setting up tuners and restoring the right tables from the database?
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> pretty much
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> you should be able to import the database
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> and unless some funky stuff is done in centos, it should be fine
[18:13] <tgm4883_laptop> you probably will want to resetup the tuners, if for some reason they switched device numbers or are mapped elsewhere
[18:15] <kidbluz> tgm, yeah, I have some weird things happening with the database, so I'm just going to dump the relevant info.
[18:18] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[18:18] <tgm4883_laptop> be sure to grab your show data
[18:18] <tgm4883_laptop> otherwise that would suck
[18:22] <solarbaby> google MythTV TheTVDB.com to see a post I made at the bottom
[18:22] <solarbaby> I hope that guy can do what he thinks he can, it'd be awesome !!
[18:34] <solarbaby> tgm4883_laptop: are you any good with crontabs?  If you are and wouldnt mind giving me the working solution to once a day everyday 5pm I'd be grateful
[18:47] <Rimers> Hey guys
[18:54] <tgm4883_laptop> !ask
[18:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[18:55] <bronson> Is there an easy way to use my ivtv's FM tuner?
[18:58] <Rimers> i think i saw a mythtv plugin somwhere, but i don't think it's in the original plugin pack with mythtv
[18:59] <bronson> Ah, cool.  I'll look.
[18:59] <bronson> Found some talk about "mythradio" but dunno what state it's in.
[18:59] <Rimers> search for mythtv radio on google, think that will find it for you
[19:00] <Rimers> hmm that might be the one i'm thinking of, not sure of the state either, but seem to remember my brother using it at some point
[19:03] <aEv> hi, a question, are the desktop effects known to interfere with mythttv fullscreen? (any particular effects 'not to use'  or remedies). I just had the video clear up after disabling them..
[19:04] <aEv> and offcourse thanks for the wonderfull, mythbuntu control center thingie, made my day
[19:07] <Rimers> aEv: not sure of the desktop effects, i disabled all of mine due to my Ati card not handeling them well and especialy not with mythtv
[19:08] <tgm4883_laptop> I think superm1 runs both, i'd bug him when he gets back on
[19:12] <Rimers> I just installed the latest CD version of mythbuntu off the website, install ran perfectly, just had a small problem with the xorg.conf that needed some tweaking to work with the tv-out
[19:13] <Rimers> except from that everything went just fine with the openchrome drivers and all :)
[19:13] <aEv> thanks, not especially concerned about running em both, was mostly curious if it was known issue.
[19:13] <aEv> Rimers: the nvidia-settings tool did that for me. seems to change quite a bit
[19:13] <aEv> to have changed..
[19:14] <solarbaby> Rimers: if you have the Hauppauge 350 like I do and you get TV out working, I'd like to find out how you did it ;)
[19:14] <aEv> While busy, i have another Q,  i have been searching (mostly some time ago) for some way to 'visually' fine tune my mythtv channels.
[19:15] <aEv> the freqs from teh cable company tend to be off
[19:15] <Rimers> solarbaby: I have a Via Epia motherboard with a Via gfx chip on it, but the 350 should be fairly easy to get working, seem multiple guides on it
[19:15] <aEv> anyone else have issues with this, what is the best way to fine tune your chans
[19:15] <aEv> ?
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[19:15] <solarbaby> Rimers: I've failed the guides, or they've failed me
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> it would be nice if mythtv could do that
[19:15] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm not sure if that is possible though
[19:15] <Rimers> solarbaby: oh, sad to hear that
[19:16] <tgm4883_laptop> i feel a spec though if its not
[19:17] <aEv> tgm4883_laptop: did you refer to the visual fine tuning? :)
[19:17] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[19:17] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry
[19:17] <aEv> ahh good :)
[19:17] <Rimers> solarbaby: Ill have a look at my friends place, think he has that card somwhere in the mess
[19:17] <tgm4883_laptop> it should be possible
[19:17] <solarbaby> Most likely the Hauppauge TV out is going to be a waste of time anyways though, because there are going to be times I will want to play Avi files, and I doubt MythTV is going to knwo to transcode them to mpg files to suit the needs of my Hauppauge card
[19:17] <aEv> apparently us-folk can get all the correct info from some website.
[19:18] <tgm4883_laptop> $SD
[19:18] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "South Dakota, United States postal abbreviation" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd
[19:18] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[19:18] <aEv> this doesnt work for me in NL, must be more ppl with the problem.
[19:18] <tgm4883_laptop> Schedules Direct
[19:18] <aEv> ohh well
[19:18] <therethinker> you can add it -- if the web things up :P (should be)
[19:19] <Rimers> hmm, i dont like overscan :S
[19:19] <Rimers> my system got a massive 30 pixel overscan top/buttom and about 40 pixel in the sides
[19:20] <tgm4883_laptop> $SD
[19:20] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "South Dakota, United States postal abbreviation" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd
[19:20] <tgm4883_laptop> ?
[19:20] <tgm4883_laptop> I just added that
[19:20] <tgm4883_laptop> $SD
[19:20] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "South Dakota, United States postal abbreviation" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd
[19:20] <tgm4883_laptop> therethinker
[19:21] <Rimers> hmm, I can't get the w32codecs to install
[19:22] <therethinker> Yeah
[19:22] <tgm4883_laptop> $SD
[19:22] <therethinker> Oh -- you gotta do lowercase
[19:22] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "South Dakota, United States postal abbreviation" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd
[19:22] <therethinker> In the DB
[19:22] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[19:22] <tgm4883_laptop> $sd
[19:22] <therethinker> I'll fix it
[19:22] <tgm4883_laptop> Rimers, errors?
[19:22] <therethinker> And add a note in the page about that...
[19:22] <Rimers> it looks to be crashing and returning to mythtv
[19:23] <tgm4883_laptop> Rimers, what is crashing, MCC?
[19:23] <therethinker> $SD
[19:23] <mythbot> US and Canadian users can receive their channel data from Schedules Direct for $20/year  http://www.schedulesdirect.org
[19:23] <tgm4883_laptop> can you start mythbuntu-control-centre from the command line, then try?
[19:23] <Rimers> before yes, this time the installer just crashed and i got the MCC page just fine
[19:25] <tgm4883_laptop> Rimers, can you start mythbuntu-control-centre from the command line, then try to install w32codecs.  When it doesn't let you exit MCC and that should shed some info
[19:25] <tgm4883_laptop> Rimers, 32bit or 64bit mythbuntu
[19:26] <Rimers> ah found the error, it was trying to get the files of of the cd and that made it crash, just removed the cd from repo and it went fine
[19:26] <tgm4883_laptop> Yea i hate that
[19:27] <solarbaby> I could use some very basic scripting help if anyone is willing to take a look here http://paste-it.net/4146  It seems that when run from chron the first command seems to run, the second and 3rd dont , but then the echo message to a text file does..  perhaps i need some kind of if and then statements or something.. please take a look if you know basic scripting
[19:35] <jams> solarbaby-  when a script runs from cron it does not has a PATH set
[19:36] <jams> set the path to each binary, or source /etc/profile
[19:36] <jams> or whereever  ubuntu stores it's systemwide path info for bash
[19:37] <Rimers> hmm my digital tv card dont work :S wonder if i have to install the latest drivers as i had to with my last install
[19:38] <tgm4883_laptop> what card
[19:39] <solarbaby> jams: Thanks
[19:40] <Rimers> tgm4883_laptop: a Hauppauge 500 somthing, a digital tv tuner card (brain not working o
[19:41] <tgm4883_laptop> nova-t
[19:42] <Rimers> there we go, thats it :D
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> $hardware
[19:42] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> $tuners
[19:42] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "tuners", sorry.
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566529
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> take a look in here ^^^
[19:45] <Rimers> tgm4883_laptop: thanks
[19:46] <chuk> I think I'm having a timing issue on my master server
[19:46] <chuk> when I boot, the backend can't find my hdhomerun
[19:46] <chuk> but if I kill the process, and then start it up from the command line, it finds it fine
[19:47] <chuk> so it seems like maybe it is trying to start mythbackend before I have my IP
[19:47] <Rimers> tgm4883_laptop: its in there, and no remarks on the driver part...
[19:48] <Rimers> my mythtv setup just cant seem to find it
[19:48] <chuk> http://pastebin.ca/748299
[19:59] <MythbuntuGuest78> hello
[19:59] <MythbuntuGuest78> I just got myself the mythbuntu 7.1 and would like to use it with mac mini intel
[20:00] <MythbuntuGuest78> can I just install it to use the whole free disk space of the mac mini...i dont want mac anymore on the box
[20:04] <Rimers> MythbuntuGuest78: my first thought is yes, but i've never tried it my self
[20:04] <MythbuntuGuest78> hmm...ok
[20:04] <MythbuntuGuest78> as far as I know..the hardware is fully recognized with ubuntu 7.10
[20:05] <MythbuntuGuest78> so there should really be no problem to get it to work with mythbuntu
[20:13] <gpd> any idea how to stop screen blanking with gutsy and mythtv install - was working fine with feisty...
[20:16] <gpd> nvm - found it
[20:44] <chuk> I'm having trouble accessing the master from a client PC
[20:44] <chuk> can't log into database
[20:44] <chuk> I'm not sure if I have it set up properly for remote PC access
[20:44] <superm1> chuk, in MCC enable "MySQL service"
[20:44] <superm1> and then restart
[20:55] <tritium> hi superm1
[20:55] <superm1> cheers
[20:55] <chuk> hmm, that didn't seem to help
[20:55] <tritium> I filed the bug I felt was pertinent.
[20:55] <chuk> also, I tried to enable NFS service
[20:55] <chuk> and it dumps out with this error:  http://www.pastebin.ca/748402
[20:57] <superm1> chuk, woah yuck.
[20:57] <superm1> we dont even have a mediaChange function?
[20:57] <superm1> oh ChanServ
[20:57] <superm1> chuk,
[20:57] <superm1> put in the mythbuntu disk
[20:57] <superm1> it installs packages from there
[20:57] <superm1> that was reported a few days ago
[20:57] <chuk> oh ok
[20:57] <chuk> disc was not in
[20:57] <chuk> how about this one:  http://pastebin.ca/748299
[20:57] <chuk> I get that on boot up
[20:57] <chuk> can't find my hdhomerun
[20:58] <chuk> but if I run /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart
[20:58] <chuk> it finds it no problem
[20:58] <chuk> seems like it is starting mythbackend before it has an IP?
[20:58] <superm1> chuk, what you'll want to do is go into network settings
[20:58] <superm1> and make sure that network manager doesn't manage your card
[20:59] <chuk> do you mean assing static ip?
[20:59] <chuk> assigning...
[21:00] <superm1> chuk, not even that necessarily, but at least having normal debian networking stuff manage the interface
[21:00] <superm1> rather than NM
[21:01] <chuk> I think I might be dense on this, what exactly is network manager?
[21:01] <superm1> chuk, it is for quickly switching between wireless and wired
[21:01] <superm1> and making networking esasier
[21:02] <chuk> how do I get in and enable/disable?
[21:02] <chuk> sorry, I realize this is basic, but I'm having a brain-block
[21:04] <superm1> chuk, close mythfrontend
[21:04] <superm1> top right corner of the screen
[21:04] <chuk> done
[21:04] <superm1> is NM
[21:04] <Rimers> anyone but me been having firmware problems with mythbuntu? i cant get my tv tuner to work due to a firmware load problem, ive just decided to reboot it as the files is where they should be, so it must be somthing else
[21:04] <chuk> oh, I think I have a problem with this, my screen only 640x480 and I have nothing in top right
[21:04] <chuk> I think its off screen
[21:12] <superm1> Rimers, what firmware load problem?
[21:12] <superm1> chuk, you can run sudo network-admin then instead
[21:13] <Rimers> its for my tv tuner, hauppauge dvb-t card, but the firmware loaded after a reboot, now there is just a problem with a few error messages that looks wierd
[21:15] <Rimers> somthing with RC Query Failed for the tv tuner, think its due to some remote control input on the tv tuner
[21:19] <superm1> does it work?
[21:20] <Rimers> not sure, im getting spammed with errors every 150ms
[21:20] <Rimers> need to patch my tuner cards driver to leave the remotecontrol part out
[21:23] <superm1> yuck
[21:33] <solarbaby> superm1: I edited my crontab and achieved sucessfull results with out having to reinstall :)
[21:34] <superm1> great :)
[21:34] <solarbaby> superm1: go ahead and laugh at me, thats expected
[21:34] <solarbaby> superm1: I feel better knowing I can do it
[21:34] <superm1> what'd it end up being?
[21:35] <solarbaby> well, i had to settle on 3 different cron tasks.. because I just couldn't master it in 1 script
[21:36] <solarbaby> superm1: 40  13 * * * sh /usr/local/bin/mythupdatetvwish.sh
[21:36] <solarbaby> I guess that sh <-- made the difference
[21:37] <solarbaby> earlier i was trying /usr/local/bin./mythupdatetvwish.sh and that didn't seem to work
[21:37] <solarbaby> and then it took me a while to master writing a litle script that loads it
[21:40] <superm1> glad you sorted that out :)
[21:40] <superm1> perhaps make a post on the forums about this
[21:40] <superm1> people besides you would probably want to use tv wish
[21:40]  * Rimers starts parying that his system did not go kaka for cocopops after this edit
[21:42] <Rimers> haha, hack and slash for the win :) system up and only 1 error beeing posted :P
[21:42] <Rimers> now for the test of tuners :D
[21:43] <Rimers> yay tuners work now its just all about getting them tuned :P
[21:55] <therethinker> $ping
[21:56] <therethinker> Hmmm
[21:56] <therethinker> How did mythbot die this time?
[21:57] <therethinker> We had a net lag
[21:57]  * tgm4883_laptop hits mythbot with a shovel
[21:59] <sslashes> superm1: hey, i started working on that mouse-blanking daemon, did you get the link i left yesterday?
[21:59] <superm1> yeah
[21:59] <sslashes> what do you think?
[21:59] <superm1> i'm lookinh forward to seeing this in action
[21:59] <superm1> seems like uve got it sorted out head on
[22:01] <sslashes> do have any idea on how debian packaging works? I assume I would need to create a package for the python module...
[22:01] <tgm4883_laptop> !packaging
[22:01] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[22:02] <sslashes> tgm4883_laptop: great - thanks
[22:03] <superm1> sslashes, once you've got everythign together here, i can help you get it into a package
[22:03] <superm1> pycentral is used typically for python modules
[22:05] <sslashes> superm1: ok, great - i'll stop by again at some point soon when i have everything functioning well
[22:48] <NedHiden> Is it worth building a mythbuntu box when cable/satellite companies encrypt their connections?
[22:50] <sian> Has anybody succeeded in using a Twinhan VP 1020A with MythTV and Ubuntu ?
[23:03] <solarbaby> pdragon: seems that in this wishlist I cann't get goodmovies.txt to load up in the list.. shrug..  lots of other things work just fine but that wont.. for some reason
[23:08] <pdragon> don't think i'll be trying it myself. it's definitely something that would be a cool addition or plugin for mythtv tho
[23:10] <solarbaby> When setup is pretty nifty.. its just this one fricken thing that doesn't seem to work for me
[23:11] <solarbaby> pdragon: yeah I agree it would be better if it was a plugin, the author wrote that he didn't want to make it a plugin because its easier to edit with a keyboard.. heh
[23:13] <tazgodx> YAY!!! someone just got a new HDD in the mail. now to decide if i want to just rip out my two old ones nad start a new, or just the one....
[23:15] <solarbaby> Use the quiet one, and the big one, and the one you dont want to use as a backup drive ;)
[23:29] <NedHiden> Is it worth building a mythbuntu box when cable/satellite companies encrypt their connections?
[23:29] <tazgodx> not all, you can still get basic cable
[23:30] <tazgodx> and you can you a ir blaster to control a set top box, so you can decrypt throught hte box and get those
[23:30] <tazgodx> only thing you can't get is digital i believe besides the free OTA channels
[23:30] <tazgodx> i mean HD
[23:31] <NedHiden> hmm... okay. thanks!