[01:10] Can I be tested? [01:10] guru called the ops in #ubuntu [01:11] ferric84: sure [01:12] bar the gates, fellows [01:12] trouble on the way [01:13] ferric84: you can join, thank you [01:13] sweet [01:13] thanks === LjL is now known as LjL2 [01:14] nalioth: Did you call? [01:15] nalioth: are they in the channel already? [01:15] AndrewB: try not to sleep with your crown on [01:15] LjL2: i'm just letting you know [01:15] [02:15:19] --> neozen has joined this channel (n=neozen@c-67-176-151-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net). [01:15] i have this guy on highlight [01:15] but hadn't seen him for some time i think [01:15] i think they are intent on other channels, but just letting you guys know [01:16] ok [01:16] i have a clone joined with +C [01:16] so at least i should be able to set +r without being blocked by the ctcps [01:16] LjL2: is not identified [01:17] scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu [01:17] nalioth: no, as i'm out of registered nicknames... i'm +o anyway [01:17] here we go [01:18] AndrewB, not sure how +m would change anything [01:18] told you [01:19] funny [01:19] Dave2: its me being crazy, I thought it hid quit spam [01:19] uhm my +C didn't quite work [01:19] thedefender ? [01:19] LjL2, there is no channel CTCP blocking mode in hyperion, if that's what you were after [01:20] oh, wait, I misread. [01:20] Dave2: i was pretty sure there was though... [01:21] there's umode +C, not cmode +C. I misread what you were saying. [01:21] tiredness-- [01:24] nalioth, you can talk to the other clone, i see it :P [01:25] LjL-Temp: do not +m the channel [01:25] for longer than it takes to handle the problem [01:25] heh it went -m anyway so I devoiced me [01:26] nalioth: +R can be worse [01:26] it really can't [01:26] LjL-Temp: users can _CHANGE_ their +r/+R status [01:26] LjL-Temp: they can't do squat about +m [01:26] nalioth: if they manage to notice my link to the instructions [01:27] nalioth, after an attack, most of what people say is related to the attack itself, including "what the fuck just happened?!??!?" to more balanced, but still useless, comments [01:27] +m helps weed that out. [01:27] i don't want the attackers to see that people are talking about them. [01:27] the attackers are joyfully laughing their asses off that THEY'VE CLOSED A CHANNEL [01:28] nalioth: they haven't closed anything as long as i keep relaying the messages [01:28] you relayed a message from one of them :) [01:28] they're going to laugh their arses off regardless [01:28] tomaw: i.e.? [01:28] LjL-Temp: lollypop/lollipop [01:29] nalioth: uhm, lollypop's message was asked to me in a PM [01:31] he's still a troll (if not the one pulling the strings) [01:37] -r [01:38] LjL2: is your connection ok? [01:39] yes AndrewB, i'm just killing off my unsuccessful attempts to have clones with +C set now === LjL2 is now known as LjL [02:15] zomg! perfect! [02:15] "What's it like be an #ubuntu* op?" [02:15] PM? [02:15] "A lot like this - http://pizdaus.com/pics/Z8vZbmL4Ibng.jpg " [02:16] hah [02:16] mneptok: sorry, i'm going to topic that in offtopic. [02:16] mneptok: are we the ones in the car or the guys on the side though? [02:17] tonyyarusso: when you can answer that, grasshopper, your training is complete." [02:17] teehee [02:17] 21:14 <+mneptok> tonyyarusso: when you can answer that, grasshopper, your training is complete." [02:18] haha [03:17] calling out, in transit. calling out, in transit. [03:17] 10-4, landing bays armed [03:17] Incoming meteor, 30% chance of penguins. [03:18] 211, I need blue squad to scramble the BSD mascots [03:18] you know what it smells like? [03:18] ............... victory. [03:19] some day this war's gonna end ... [03:19] * mneptok walks away [03:21] [03:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5eXFeW0aI0 [03:26] there is a program that you can use as a sort of 'software kvm'. does anyone know the name of it? [03:26] * nalioth just had his hardware KVM croak. [03:27] :D [03:27] hai2u jeetz [03:27] hi stupidgirl can we help you with something? [03:28] i would liek to make a complaint about an op\ [03:28] please do so :) [03:29] nalioth: you mean 'synergy' ? [03:29] thank you JanC [03:29] it does only K & M though [03:30] whats a good easy to use editor other than nano that has very few depends? [03:31] you mean console-based? [03:31] yes [03:31] vi [03:31] like gedit but less depends [03:31] I use 'joe' :) [03:31] stupidgirl: the word easy i think you missed ;) [03:31] gnomefreak: pico? [03:32] gnomefreak, ee or aee [03:32] hehe well stupid noob like me can use it im sure you can if u read a little :D [03:32] ty ill see what kind of depends they have (this is for chroot and dont want all those gnome kde depends [03:32] because joe has the shortcuts I still have in my fingers from the turbo pascal days :) [03:32] gnomefreak: it should be a GUI editor? [03:33] JanC: i would like the menus on it but really anything for simple text docs to edit [03:33] gnomefreak: aee [03:33] gnomefreak: "easy to use" is ne [03:34] gnomefreak: *every* user can grok ne instantly [03:34] gnomefreak: pico is just a closed source version of nano (nano descended from or cloned it) [03:34] pico wont be in hardy repos [03:34] gnomefreak: aee [03:34] if you need a GUI there are e.g. SciTE & mousepad [03:34] However the following packages replace it: nano [03:35] stupidgirl: you had some complaints? [03:35] stupidgirl: hint: when wanting to make a complaint, it's helpful if you actually write about your complaint, rather than wasting our time. [03:35] for ncurses I would suggest joe :) [03:35] gnomefreak: ne - Nice Editor, an easy-to-use and powerful editor [03:35] else, you'll just get ignored. [03:35] ty i think i have enough to try for morning [03:35] gnomefreak: have you tried jed before (CLI) [03:35] gnomefreak: it's a light editor that does highlighting / code-folding, and can emulate the UI of like every other editor out htere [03:35] nope dont think i ever did [03:36] gnomefreak: I use it on my 486/33MHz textmode floppy Linux setup :) [03:36] * gnomefreak sick of nano [03:36] gnomefreak: install ne, launch it, press . thank me later. :) [03:37] mneptok: im installing them all and will play with them [03:37] NO TEXT FILE IS SAFE! [03:37] :) [03:37] can i launch it without a file?> [03:37] and .... she earns her nick [03:37] yup [03:38] ne [03:38] [03:38] oh sweet [03:38] :) [03:38] gnomefreak: i used to use nano all the time, but now i love my aee [03:39] aee has a gui version xae, too [03:39] * mneptok did the OSX port of ne in another life [03:39] niiiiiii! [03:40] mneptok: it doesn't understand the difference between the tab character and indent, or is that a configuration issue? [03:40] E: Couldn't find package xae [03:40] feisty nor hardy have it in repos it seems [03:41] gnomefreak: 'aee' [03:41] ah ok [03:41] gnomefreak: xae is just the gui way to call aee [03:42] ph cool [03:42] oh* [03:42] is that ncurses? [03:42] JanC: ~/.ne [03:43] JanC: by default the ident spacing = 1 [03:43] mneptok: I mean, does it know the difference between indent width & tab-width, :) [03:44] JanC: configurable in ~/.ne [03:44] (I like coding in Python, so this is really important ;-) ) [03:45] JanC: http://ne.dsi.unimi.it/docs/ne_5.html#SEC173 [03:46] hm, they have docs in "info" instead of man pages... [03:46] there should be manpages, too [03:46] yeah, it's about 30 lines long ;-) [03:47] and points to the info pages [03:47] yup [03:47] :/ [03:49] she hasnt figured she got dc'd yet? [03:49] she? [03:50] stupid*girl* [03:50] alternatively, g0dd3ss [03:50] it's a nickname [03:50] strikes me as feminine [03:51] i'm the screen, the blinding light. i'm the screen, i work at night! [03:51] if said person is inclined to use feminine nicks, i will be at least respectful enough to trust they are representative if not of biology then at least of psyche === mneptok is now known as mnepette [03:51] now that's just disturbing [03:51] * mnepette bats eyelashes at elkbuntu [03:51] I try not to judge people from their nickname :) === mnepette is now known as mneptok [03:52] JanC, i find that referring to everyone as a he is only furthering the straight white american male persona of the internet, or referring to everyone as an it [03:53] err.. or referring to everyone as an it so as to avoid *any* mistakes, as being a bit excessive [03:54] that's why I use he/she most of the time, if I'm not sure ;) [03:54] elkbuntu: that's why, every year, i look you in the eyes, collect my breath, and whisper gently, and in earnest, "nice tits, Mel." [03:56] I gues this was meant as a joke... [03:56] it is mneptok, afterall [03:57] mneptok: please behave ;) [03:57] i love you, too, hon :) [03:57] *muah* [03:59] * elkbuntu whacks mneptok over the head with an umbrella [03:59] YOU BENT MY HALO! [03:59] *pout* [04:00] ha! [04:00] is THAT what you kids call it nowadays? [04:00] jdong: easier to type than "buttplug" [04:00] LOL [04:00] you have a hard disk-based head-decoration ? [04:01] JanC: The ladies love my perpendicular recording [04:01] "disk based head" is the reason for 90% of all Internet traffic [04:01] I was talking about RMS's favourite headwear :) [04:02] grease? [04:02] *bah dum tish* [04:02] on top of that :P [04:02] hahaha [04:02] * jdong should visit RMS some day [04:03] well, I don't have any problems with him, except his talks get boring after you saw them a couple of times... [04:05] * jdong has dreams that RMS would see him holding his macbook, walking to class [04:06] I sometimes pass by where his office is supposed to be.... [04:06] OTOH, reportedly, he likes Belgian beers, so he must be a nice guy :) [04:06] and markedly perspire when my laptop wasn't booted to Ubuntu :) [04:07] jdong: RMS uses gnewsense, which is an Ubuntu derivative :) [04:07] * gnomefreak needs to get back to hospital sometime after i get this done :( [04:07] JanC: I... I use fglrx, and ipw3945d, and sun-java6, and ... you can see why he would have a problem with me :) [04:07] gnomefreak: what's wrong? [04:08] jdong: well, you could at least test the free alternatives ;) [04:08] a very very good friend got into a car accident and she is really banged up and she wants me there [04:08] i spent better part of today there [04:08] brb smoke and get dressed [04:08] JanC: I will be more than thrilled to use a FOSS alternative when it can perform the tasks I need it to [04:09] so, get the fuck back there and don't bother about us ;-) [04:09] lol [04:09] that was directed to gnomefreak [04:10] well, Java 7 should be open source [04:10] jdong: ^^^ [04:10] JanC: indeed it is, and I am switching over to it, along with our Azureus stack :) [04:11] gutsy has IcedTea packages [04:11] but I don't know how good they are [04:11] anyone got a good howto for synergy? [04:11] JanC: quite good in fact [04:11] JanC: as good, if not faster, than java6 and Universe capable :) [04:11] nalioth: sorry, never used it [04:13] jdong: but AFAIK some parts are missing still? [04:13] JanC: i cant go back yet im in the middle of something but will be in ~ 1 hour [04:14] JanC: yeah, the sun.* namespace throws nongpl warnings if you try to import it [04:14] nalioth: i thought i saw one the other day [04:14] checking [04:14] use icedtea ;) [04:15] * gnomefreak thinking about trying it [04:15] nalioth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto [04:15] not sure how good it is but its ubuntu wiki cant be too bad [04:16] gnomefreak: thanky, i just got it figured out (with the help of 9 differernt howtos) [04:17] lol [04:20] ah seems we are gonna be using icedtea instead of sun-java#-* [04:20] * gnomefreak wonders what the chances are of getting it in main (or installed by default [04:21] gnomefreak: a beta java stack? :-/ [04:21] gnomefreak: I sure hope so, though [04:21] well, i guess the hardware kvm going out was a good thing [04:21] * nalioth learnt about synergy [04:21] jdong: beta and fully GPL'ed ;) [04:22] gnomefreak: like launchpad! [04:22] oh wait. [04:22] parts of LP are free [04:26] LP is as free as SourceForge I guess ;) [04:27] ok gone for night see you sometime tomorrow [04:28] my dream is to create a personal distributed issue tracking / code revision system / etc. that knows how to interact with "upstream" etc. etc. ;) [04:37] nalioth, i could send you my crappy little kvm, it's ok so long as you dont need to use the shift key :Þ [04:38] err, not shift key, ctrl key [04:38] it's not supposed to do anything with the ctrl key, but randomly, it will instigate switching... very annoying [04:45] I have an USB-k/m-switch :) [04:46] which works quite fine [04:47] actually, it can switch any USB device [04:47] including printers, scanners, USB disks, etc. [04:50] elkbuntu: thanky, ma'am, but my kvm used the double-ctrl-tap method of switching (i'm on an Apple keyboard, and of course the setup is different) [04:51] eh, sounds like a crappy UI for a hardware device :) [04:54] JanC: it's the Windows key for windoze (l)users [04:54] but now i've got synergy running [04:55] i just have to get out of the doubld-ctrl-tap habit [04:58] what I mean: I'm sure I often accidentally tap the Ctrl or Win key twice in a row ;) [05:04] JanC: if you used this kvm for a while, you would get out of the habit [05:06] I would never use it voluntarily :) [05:08] well, back when i bought it, synergy wasn't available [05:50] nalioth, this isnt a double control tap one, it's a scroll scroll esc one... but ctrl still catches it quite randomly. sometimes every time ctrl is tapped, sometimes it wont do it for 10 taps [05:50] i got it for free because the previous owner got fed up with it [05:51] elkbuntu: try synergy. i'm kinda liking it [05:52] thought it didnt do V though [07:43] [chr0n0s] called the ops in #ubuntu === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [08:10] who the heck keeps eating my connection?! [08:13] elkbuntu_: me [08:13] meanie :( === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [08:13] elkbuntu: I just like your attention [08:14] i'm starting to suspect the adsl filter/splitter is not filtering right [08:17] feels like King Crimson - Book Of Saturday [08:19] elkbuntu: you have kontiki :P :P :P ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontiki ) === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [08:25] gyaaaaahhhhhhrgh [08:40] elkbuntu: marooouughlfpwx? [08:41] dont make me say it out loud, it will jinx me [08:42] s/say/type/; s/out loud/in channel where idlers are removed/ :P [09:05] desertc called the ops in #ubuntu [09:34] tonyyarusso, you heard of The Chaser's War on Everything? it's an aussie show [09:34] elkbuntu: nope, can't say I have [09:35] ah... http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pltgk3Y0Omw&NR=1 ... you still might enjoy this [09:47] elkbuntu: mmmmmmmm, I smell some states where people complained about paying taxes for education! [09:49] http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=McB9tsabPn0 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3SfNANtig and http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=GclCE0cLA-o are also hilarious [09:54] elkbuntu: Now I want your TV... [09:55] elkbuntu: I'd like to add to the American vs Arab tourist segment that I have flown, on a commercial jet aircraft, into the US from another country, without any customs official, security guard, etc. so much as asking my name, much less checking my passport. [09:55] Driven too [09:58] heh, not surprising since you're ginger and hence as white as one can get ;) [10:00] tonyyarusso, http://www.abc.net.au/tv/chaser/war/ is the show's website [10:01] elkbuntu: sorry, you lost me - ginger? [10:01] ahaha, now I want a security guard costume... [10:09] tonyyarusso, ginger=redhead [10:09] ah [11:41] lol - ginger [11:41] where? [11:42] Gary, convo earlier in my backlog [11:42] ahhh [11:42] thought we were dissing Seveas again :-) [11:43] rofl...... [11:43] Note to self: Not only do you have to untar the drupal module, but you actually have to upload it too! [11:44] yeah, that helps a lot you know [11:44] tonyyarusso, hehe [11:45] I kept refreshing my admin page wondering why it wasn't showing up === thoreauputic_ is now known as thoreauputic [12:20] I msg'd Andre_Gondim about his application for ubuntu-irc :/ [12:21] * tonyyarusso hasn't seen this tidbit yet [12:22] Who is that? [12:24] Pici: YOUR FATHER [12:24] Or, you know, just some random user. [12:24] tonyyarusso: Noooo! /falls through cloud city [12:24] oh. [12:24] teehee [12:25] oh god - I gotta find that youtube thing again [12:26] Pici: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=3eZBevXohCI [12:26] is there a GTk app simular to amarok? [12:26] Exaile keeps saying they're trying to be 'the' gtk Amarok [12:26] gnomefreak: other than exaile, or rhythmbox? [12:26] gnomefreak: exaile [12:27] listen? [12:27] they're really helpful at #exaile [12:27] listen was broke last i heard. [12:28] when im done with updates ill install exaile see what its like. im not found of rhythmbox [12:28] /me runs bzr update always before launching exaile [12:28] <3 [12:28] gnomefreak: banshee is worth a look too [12:28] I just love it [12:29] Myrtti: theres a bzr branch for it? [12:29] yeah [12:29] they've got the whole project on launchpad [12:29] Myrtti: does it have embedded tarball? [12:29] *shrug* [12:29] I'm just the Finnish translator ;-) [12:30] Myrtti: did you need a orig.tar to build it? [12:30] gnomefreak: it's python [12:30] I just run it [12:31] oh ok [12:38] SiroSoriS is really looking to be removed but wait for it IMHO the link he gave was for NWO murdering innocent civilains [12:58] Tm_T: the tor node issue is still pending [12:59] Myrtti: ? [12:59] apparently it's somewhat ambiguous [12:59] Myrtti: mainly kicking and soon banning because has nothing to do with our channel [13:00] oh [13:00] 1454 -!- channels : #fedora-meeting #zftalk #kvm #debian-es #gentoo-chat #phpbb #ubuntuforums #wikipedia-de #ubuntu-fi [13:00] funny feller [13:00] find any pattern? I dont, except quite random channels [13:00] whatever his purpose is, it aint good I tell ya [13:09] Well, you never know, he could be running four different linux distros and speak as many languages, I guess [13:09] yeah :p [13:10] one distro in each langugae [13:12] No - Fedora and Gentoo in English, and Ubuntu in English and Finnish, with Debian in Spanish only [13:12] slightly odder === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso [13:29] hi people, how do i get a channel into the irc logs at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ ? [14:00] Hey nrpil. [14:00] ubuntulog used to be looked after by fabbionne but I think that's changed recently. [14:01] nrpil, what channel by the way? [14:12] (Found out how we request the bot now) [14:12] share the wealth? [14:13] Hows that? [14:13] contact the person who is in the bot's /whois ? [14:13] mailto:rt@ubuntu.com [14:13] Hehe that's the one. [14:14] btw, i'm getting the feeling we're having bot seepage.. but my bot senses could be off [14:14] "in a pinch, drop by #canonical-sysadmin, but RT is preferred" [14:15] elkbuntu: seepage? [14:15] Pici, gradual joining of a bot net [14:15] Pici, botnet making their way in slowly [14:15] Ahh.... [14:15] there's an increase in joins, several guests from the same ip, and lots of nicks and idents matching [14:15] when, now? [14:15] hmm.. [14:15] over the past few mins, yes [14:16] on #ubuntu, or just in general? [14:16] this time i want my stupid umode +C to work [14:17] Pici, #ubuntu [14:17] as soon as calc loads, i'll sort the hostmasks [14:17] calc? [14:17] oo.o [14:18] you find clones with a spreadsheet? :o) [14:18] how? [14:18] i assume by sorting... [14:18] still, that's not right :P [14:18] * livingdaylight (n=livingda@77-101-174-180.cable.ubr06.camd.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #ubuntu [14:19] hes not a bot [14:19] I know. [14:19] He is definitely not a bot. [14:19] LjL, it's the quickest way i know, also good for spotting clones :Þ [14:19] but you still have to extract the hostmask [14:19] I thought he was okay? or has he gone bad? [14:19] elkbuntu, gee, at least use "sort" from cli if anything :P [14:19] Gary, always been bad [14:20] LjL, harder to glance [14:25] If I was better at doing cli mysql selects, I'd have something quick too. [14:25] no matter how i do it, i'd have to find a way to sanely copy and paste /names first :) [14:52] My router just cycled.... [14:52] and obviously clears its logs of why. [14:53] Pricey: is it a Trusted Router? [14:53] "trusted"? trusted by me? [14:54] Pricey: trusted as in Trusted Computing [14:54] so, no, a router that doesn't trust *you* :P [14:54] like in soviet russia [14:54] haha ok I'm with you :) [14:54] Don't think so :P [14:56] hmmm where can I get String::Interpolate from... [14:57] Pricey: cpan? [14:57] mhmm [14:57] hmm do i already have it [14:58] the channel is i'm talking about is #ubuntu-vdr [14:58] think i do. [14:59] nrpil, what is that channel? [14:59] The logbot is almost exclusively for official channels. [14:59] nrpil, i think i muted you from #ubuntu-classroom yesterday because you spurted some weird non-ascii characters into the channel [15:00] LjL: ow, sorry about that [15:00] nrpil: just wanted to make sure it was unintended [15:01]