| _jz | 12 hours with xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-video-ati from feisty under gutsy and no freeze using compiz !! | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| _jz | i think that's the way ! tomorrow i'll test using only the previous xserver-xorg-video-ati, and current gutsy xorg-core and will keep you informed :) | 00:01 |
| ubotu | New bug: #64811 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "PCI cannot allocate resource for region 7 8 and 9 on Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi Laptop (dup-of: 54294)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64811 | 00:01 |
| bryce | ye gods the influx of me-toos on 156325 ;-) | 00:03 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156467 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "No direct rendering on 855GM chip in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156467 | 00:20 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156470 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Random desktop freeze with nvidia-glx-new 100.14.19" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156470 | 00:30 |
| tepsipakki | for the record, I can't change the keymap with 1.4 for some strange reason | 00:49 |
| tepsipakki | so I'll continue tomorrow trying to figure out why | 00:49 |
| * bryce nods | 00:53 | |
| bryce | I'm working on fglrx. It's strange, there's a link to the file, but it doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere on ati/amd's site that I can find | 00:53 |
| bryce | so no release notes | 00:53 |
| arsham | hi bryce | 01:48 |
| arsham | hi all | 01:48 |
| bryce | heya arsham | 01:49 |
| arsham | I am one of those who has problems with intel graphic card , in gutsy | 01:49 |
| * bryce nods | 01:49 | |
| arsham | I just red your article in lunch pad | 01:49 |
| arsham | I have something to say | 01:50 |
| arsham | most of time , exactly when a pm comes from pidgin , the lockup happens | 01:50 |
| arsham | for me | 01:50 |
| bryce | which bug id number? | 01:51 |
| arsham | w8 | 01:51 |
| arsham | 127101 | 01:51 |
| bryce | ahh | 01:51 |
| arsham | I closed every application , that uses libnotify | 01:51 |
| arsham | nothing happened yet | 01:52 |
| arsham | but I have to read whole of the bug reports in that area | 01:52 |
| bryce | ok well it's likely you're experiencing some new bug | 01:52 |
| arsham | maybe | 01:52 |
| arsham | have you had any chance to fix that? | 01:53 |
| bryce | even if it demonstrates symptoms that are just like in 127101, it's probably caused by something different | 01:53 |
| arsham | maybe | 01:53 |
| bryce | in any case, 127101 is closed as fixed and verified by its reporters, so you'll want to post a new bug report | 01:53 |
| arsham | aw , I am not familiar with bug reporting | 01:53 |
| arsham | just googling for my problem | 01:54 |
| bryce | here's some info on bug reporting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging/ | 01:54 |
| arsham | why the graphic card hangs with compiz in gutsy? | 01:54 |
| bryce | you probably only need to read section 2 | 01:54 |
| arsham | thank you | 01:54 |
| arsham | what was the difference between faisty and gutsy in these kind of case? | 01:55 |
| bryce | feisty used the -i810 driver, whereas gutsy used a newer -intel driver | 01:56 |
| arsham | aw | 01:56 |
| bryce | also feisty did not have compiz enabled by default | 01:56 |
| arsham | is there any chance for me to use i810 driver? | 01:56 |
| arsham | I am confused | 01:57 |
| arsham | another thing , maybe helps : | 01:57 |
| bryce | there is a chance | 01:57 |
| arsham | while locking up , amarok plays the whole song till the end , and doesn't play the next one , maybe related to OSD or notify | 01:58 |
| arsham | and I can ssh and remote control my computer | 01:58 |
| arsham | but keyboard and screen is locked | 01:58 |
| arsham | and mouse is active , you know that already | 01:58 |
| arsham | how can I use that driver? | 01:59 |
| arsham | is it stable? | 01:59 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156456 in compiz (restricted) "mplayer can't display Videos " [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156456 | 01:59 |
| arsham | another thing that I saw was : | 02:02 |
| arsham | during reboot : I got the splash screen of ubuntu's shutting down , seems that the control got back to the GC | 02:02 |
| arsham | bryce, would you please guide me to fix my problem? | 02:09 |
| bryce | sorry, I'm a bit busy, but here's some docs that should help for installing i810: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver | 02:11 |
| arsham | thank you | 02:11 |
| arsham | and good luck | 02:12 |
| bryce | there is also a place for asking for tech support on ubuntu here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addquestion | 02:13 |
| arsham | thanks man | 02:13 |
| bryce | np | 02:16 |
| arsham | X crash | 02:18 |
| arsham | which graphic card do u advise me for my next laptop? | 02:31 |
| bryce | all graphics cards have some bugs, none is perfect | 02:32 |
| bryce | i945 seems to be fairly well supported | 02:33 |
| arsham | and about performance? | 02:33 |
| bryce | best performance are with binary drivers, which are not well supported | 02:34 |
| arsham | thank you , your gr8 | 02:34 |
| arsham | bye all | 02:58 |
| arsham | bye bryce , thank you helping me | 02:58 |
| bryce | heh, some of the fglrx commentary at phoronix is humorous. "AIGLX is a TOTAL DELUSION. The fps is less than XGL. Firefox scrolling seems like a 286 dir command (on dos). | 04:55 |
| bryce | Radeon open source driver is better!" | 04:55 |
| tepsipakki | bryce: made some small adjustments to the Projects-page | 06:37 |
| tepsipakki | the x11proto's are good to go before the server, since it build-depends on them | 06:42 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156550 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati (main) "[gutsy] ati open source driver issues with external monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156550 | 06:50 |
| bryce | ok cool | 07:14 |
| bryce | btw, I've also now started a page for patches: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Patches | 07:15 |
| bryce | mostly focused on -intel | 07:15 |
| bryce | so far haven't run across anything too exciting | 07:16 |
| tepsipakki | btw, dropping patch 120 means that users need to put XAANoOffscreenPixmaps in the config, or use EXA | 07:47 |
| tepsipakki | otherwise the performance is horrible | 07:48 |
| bryce | what about modifying dexconf to put one or the other of those in? | 08:37 |
| tepsipakki | well, perhaps we could evaluate EXA | 08:40 |
| tepsipakki | for intel&ati at least | 08:40 |
| tepsipakki | hey seb128 | 08:51 |
| seb128 | hi tepsipakki | 08:51 |
| tepsipakki | seb128: do you remember why xvfb depends on xfonts-base & xauth? Debian has those in Recommends | 08:51 |
| seb128 | xvfb doesn't work without xauth | 08:52 |
| tepsipakki | the changelog of xorg-server mentions that fabbione pointed that out (haven't asked him yet) | 08:52 |
| seb128 | xvfb-run | 08:52 |
| seb128 | if ! which xauth >/dev/null; then | 08:52 |
| seb128 | error "xauth command not found" | 08:52 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, maybe it should be a Depends on debian as well | 08:52 |
| seb128 | right | 08:52 |
| bryce | heya seb128 | 08:53 |
| tepsipakki | actually, it's xbase-clients now, but could be changed since it's split now | 08:53 |
| seb128 | or they don't consider xvfb-run as important enough to add a Depends | 08:53 |
| seb128 | hello bryce | 08:53 |
| seb128 | I think we dropped the xauth Depends by mistake during a merge and that was creating ftbfs | 08:54 |
| tepsipakki | right | 08:54 |
| seb128 | because packages using xvfb-run needs to Build-Depends on xauth also then | 08:54 |
| seb128 | I think it makes sense to have the Depends | 08:54 |
| tepsipakki | jcristau: ^^ | 08:54 |
| tepsipakki | seems like it yes | 08:54 |
| jcristau | you need xauth if you want to use xvfb-run, not necessarily for Xvfb | 08:56 |
| jcristau | so yeah, if you use xvfb-run at build time, then you need a build-dep on xauth and xfonts-base | 08:57 |
| * _jz two hours with feisty's xorg-video-ati (and gutsy's core) and still no freeze using compiz ! | 09:03 | |
| bryce | :-) | 09:04 |
| tepsipakki | duh, tried the debian version of hal and still can't change the kblayout | 09:07 |
| tepsipakki | even if I remove the fdi it still uses hal-rules | 09:08 |
| tepsipakki | finally got the local fdi file to work | 09:43 |
| tepsipakki | yeah, I had a broken fdi file, it didn't have a "match" entry for input.keys :P | 09:45 |
| tepsipakki | bryce: so, what do we do with the server?-) | 09:46 |
| bryce | how do you mean? | 09:47 |
| tepsipakki | upload now or keep it on hold | 09:48 |
| tepsipakki | besides, until xorg is uploaded people shouldn't be able to upgrade to it without force | 09:48 |
| bryce | what's the status with that hal bug you were worried about? | 09:49 |
| tepsipakki | it is easily worked around | 09:49 |
| tepsipakki | but has to be done by the user for now | 09:49 |
| bryce | how serious of an issue is it if not worked around? does it only affect non-US kbds? | 09:49 |
| tepsipakki | only !us yes | 09:50 |
| bryce | what's the workaround? | 09:50 |
| tepsipakki | and, if the DE forces pc105 layout | 09:50 |
| tepsipakki | put a fdi-file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy that changes it | 09:50 |
| bryce | where does the fdi-file come from? | 09:51 |
| tepsipakki | http://pastebin.com/m51eeabc5 | 09:51 |
| tepsipakki | nowhere, needs to be made | 09:51 |
| bryce | hmm | 09:52 |
| tepsipakki | it was discussed last night on #debian-x | 09:52 |
| bryce | but people won't be able to upload to xserver 1.4 until the new xorg is there? | 09:52 |
| jcristau | you might want to wait until we agree on the transition plan | 09:53 |
| jcristau | or, just don't build-dep on libhal-dev | 09:53 |
| jcristau | for now | 09:53 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, that would work too | 09:53 |
| bryce | well, I'd say as long as there's a way we can get xserver into the repo so we can start building against it, but without inflicting the kbd issue on people in general, I'd favor uploading it | 09:54 |
| tepsipakki | bryce: yes, as long as there are drivers that have an older ABIVER | 09:54 |
| ubotu | New bug: #130837 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) ""Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on Realtime kernel" is missing components" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130837 | 10:01 |
| bryce | ahh, got lrm with latest fglrx built | 10:04 |
| tepsipakki | bryce: is it for gutsy or hardy? | 10:04 |
| bryce | gutsy | 10:04 |
| tepsipakki | ok | 10:04 |
| bryce | I've not set up a Hardy environment for building yet | 10:04 |
| tepsipakki | I did, and now some dialogs doesn't have any visible text anymore (in X, before upgrading to 1.4) | 10:05 |
| tepsipakki | :) | 10:06 |
| bryce | oh lovely | 10:06 |
| bryce | it's so good to know we'll have things to keep us busy for Hardy ;-) | 10:06 |
| bryce | btw, I've also dug through the -intel git log and identified changes that look interesting from a backporting standpoint: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Patches | 10:07 |
| bryce | I don't know if the quirks are worth backporting or not, but if so, there's a slew of them | 10:07 |
| bryce | I think tomorrow I'm going to make another pass through the intel bugs and see if any match up to these patches | 10:08 |
| tepsipakki | http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg/xserver.debdiff | 10:08 |
| tepsipakki | bryce: so, I'll upload xorg-server and post a notice on u-d about the issues it has? | 10:21 |
| bryce | yup, sounds good | 10:21 |
| tepsipakki | right, I'll get on it | 10:22 |
| tepsipakki | +with | 10:25 |
| tepsipakki | 4h of sleep does take its toll :P | 10:26 |
| bryce | heh | 10:28 |
| bryce | wow, the new xserver has a surprisingly short changelog | 10:30 |
| bryce | +entry | 10:30 |
| tepsipakki | could be shorter :) | 10:30 |
| bryce | anyway, debdiff looks good | 10:33 |
| tepsipakki | 107 is a controversial patch, apparently the toolkits should be fixed not to use background none windows, but.. | 10:34 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, I was wrong about putting the drivers on hold, since they now depends on xserver >=1.4 so they won't get built before it is uploaded | 10:41 |
| tepsipakki | -s | 10:41 |
| tepsipakki | um, I _might_ want to change the release name from xorg-server | 10:42 |
| bryce | uh? really? | 10:43 |
| tepsipakki | it was gutsy | 10:43 |
| tepsipakki | so dput would have uploaded it for gutsy :) | 10:45 |
| bryce | ah | 10:46 |
| bryce | yeah I do that all the time :-) | 10:46 |
| bryce | but I have a plan for preventing it for hardy | 10:47 |
| bryce | however right now I need to go to bed. Meeting time in +5 hrs. | 10:47 |
| bryce | bug 156325 is debbed. 'night. | 10:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 156325 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "New fglrx 8.42.3 to Gutsy" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156325 | 10:47 |
| tepsipakki | good night | 10:47 |
| seb128 | bryce: +5h-49min? | 11:49 |
| seb128 | doh, that was one hour ago ;-) | 11:50 |
| seb128 | bryce: ignore my comment ;-) | 11:50 |
| pcjc2 | Bryce? | 13:31 |
| pcjc2 | I know this bug #93832 is closed, but should we add to the debug pages somewhere that this melting / fading symptom is a _VERY_ bad sign, and one which means you should power off the computer ASAP to avoid potential LCD damage? | 13:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 93832 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "screen "melts", no output displayed" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93832 | 13:32 |
| pcjc2 | Or do we want to avoid letting people think it might be Ubuntu's fault if their LCD breaks for any reason later in its life? | 13:32 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156658 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Console incorrectly programmed if leaving X with no outputs (945GM)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156658 | 13:41 |
| baggins | hum | 14:05 |
| baggins | i've lost DRI on ubuntu 7.10 when i log in. it seems to spawn a new X server when i log in and can't get a lock on the hardware because the login screen still has it. | 14:05 |
| baggins | i am logged in on the terminal with startx at the moment. | 14:05 |
| tepsipakki | baggins: filed a bug yet? | 14:26 |
| baggins | no | 14:27 |
| tepsipakki | please do | 14:27 |
| tepsipakki | attach xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 14:28 |
| baggins | ok, i'll do it when i have to reboot and i get annoyed about it again | 14:30 |
| baggins | i guess i have the question of: is that normal? does GDM now spawn a new X server when a user logs in? | 14:30 |
| tepsipakki | no | 14:30 |
| tepsipakki | and no | 14:30 |
| tepsipakki | create another user and then login as that user | 14:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #155531 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "totem don't display video on Ubuntu 7.10" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155531 | 14:33 |
| _jz | that new xserver-xorg-video-ati is pure crap !! i hope there will be a fix soon ! :/ | 14:49 |
| baggins | do you have DRI? | 14:49 |
| tepsipakki | bryce: awake already? I thought about the colors in Projects | 15:34 |
| tepsipakki | bryce: could green be for done items, yellow pending, and red (?) for open | 15:34 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156666 in xorg (main) "Xorg restarts randomly while typing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156666 | 15:38 |
| tepsipakki | bbl -> | 15:57 |
| ubotu | New bug: #46463 in language-support-th (main) "Western keyboard layouts don't work after thai language login" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46463 | 19:06 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156573 in xorg (main) "xserver bug needs resolved" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156573 | 19:24 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156341 in xorg (main) "ubuntu 7.10 and ATI = black screen?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156341 | 19:25 |
| ubotu | New bug: #154210 in compiz (main) "Massive memory leak in compiz (dup-of: 151168)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154210 | 20:10 |
| baggins | hum | 20:11 |
| baggins | lots of ATI issues, it seems with 7.10 | 20:11 |
| tepsipakki | black screen issues are known | 20:16 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156801 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "totem display`s vertical lines no movie Gutsy 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156801 | 20:47 |
| baggins | heh | 20:58 |
| baggins | wow you can just see the dups rolling in. :) | 20:58 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156824 in xorg (main) "Xorg freaks out, hogs CPU, and possesses my laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156824 | 21:20 |
| bryce | heya tepsipakki | 21:33 |
| bryce | tepsipakki: I got a weird issue I'm trying to sort out with a user on i810 | 21:33 |
| bryce | they've got a bunch of large LCD panels mounted that display info in kiosk mode, with Feisty installed | 21:34 |
| bryce | some of the LCD panels are mounted in landscape mode, others in portrait mode and rotated 90 deg with xrandr | 21:34 |
| bryce | oddly, a lot of the landscape (unrotated) displays are having failures where they lock up | 21:35 |
| bryce | the lock ups occur after several day's uptime (typically about 6 days, but as little as 40 min in some cases) | 21:35 |
| bryce | initially we suspected memory leaks, and in fact there were some memory leaks | 21:36 |
| bryce | but in tracking memory usage, it seems that in many cases there is no memory growth prior to the failure | 21:37 |
| bryce | do you know of any issues with i810 that could result in a lockup after an arbitrary amount of time, or have any ideas on why a i810 system would fail *unless* it were rotated with xrandr? | 21:38 |
| tepsipakki | so they are identical otherwise? | 21:42 |
| bryce | yes | 21:44 |
| tepsipakki | indeed sounds strange.. what bug is it? | 21:44 |
| bryce | exactly the same hardware and software. They're mounted different, and one set is rotated | 21:44 |
| bryce | mark tardiff reported it to me, but apparently he hasn't put in a bug report on it for some reason | 21:45 |
| bryce | we've not been able to find an error message or backtrace | 21:46 |
| bryce | (honestly I'm still not convinced that it's an Xorg issue) | 21:47 |
| tepsipakki | I'm afraid I don't have any ideas either | 21:47 |
| bryce | ok thanks | 21:47 |
| ubotu | New bug: #156839 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "nvidia graphics cat not detected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156839 | 22:05 |
| ubotu | New bug: #154818 in xorg (main) "X broken by upgrade to Gutsy" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154818 | 22:30 |
| ubotu | New bug: #82577 in xfce4-terminal (main) "Terminal does not work on Xubuntu feisty (dup-of: 91849)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82577 | 22:46 |
| ubotu | New bug: #133088 in xfce4-terminal "xubuntu terminal (xfterm4) dies, kills X (dup-of: 91849)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133088 | 22:46 |
| ubotu | New bug: #149864 in xorg (main) "Problems with x.org after update." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149864 | 23:38 |
| pcjc2 | hi | 23:45 |
| pcjc2 | lots of flux on bugs today | 23:45 |
| pcjc2 | bryce: (or anyone) is there any way we can get launchpad to fix the mime type of Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old etc..? | 23:46 |
| bryce | heya pcjc2 | 23:46 |
| bryce | hmm, good thought | 23:46 |
| bryce | I'm not really sure, but maybe you could ask on #ubuntu-devel? | 23:47 |
| pcjc2 | ok, I'm subscribed to the launchpad beta list, might be worth asking there | 23:47 |
| pcjc2 | Xorg*log* -> text/plain | 23:47 |
| bryce | yeah | 23:48 |
| pcjc2 | Not a lot of response from the Intel guys... | 23:48 |
| bryce | nope :-( | 23:48 |
| pcjc2 | what are they up to (coding driver support for their latest unreleased chipset in secret?) | 23:48 |
| bryce | I see they're listed as attending Barcamp, so if that's true, I'll be seeing them this weekend | 23:48 |
| bryce | no idea | 23:49 |
| pcjc2 | aha, say hello for me! | 23:49 |
| bryce | will do; I also plan to query them about -intel bugs | 23:49 |
| bryce | oh hey btw, I was a busy bee last night... | 23:49 |
| bryce | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Patches | 23:49 |
| pcjc2 | We've done the hard parts... just need them to review the patches, or investigate the _why_ now we know the workarounds / fixes | 23:50 |
| bryce | I gathered a listing of -intel (and other) patches for reviewing | 23:50 |
| bryce | most of those are probably crap patches, or ones we already have, but probably worth a look | 23:50 |
| pcjc2 | wow... thats a lot of patches | 23:50 |
| bryce | if you could review them, and mark ones that look irrelevant to help narrow the list, it'd be a big help | 23:51 |
| bryce | I'm looking from the direction of going through our bug reports and see if any match with these patches | 23:51 |
| bryce | in which case I'll build one or two -intel rollups with some patches for folks to test with | 23:52 |
| pcjc2 | some of those are backports from git | 23:52 |
| pcjc2 | I was meaning to email you | 23:52 |
| bryce | right, all the ones marked origin 'xorg git' | 23:52 |
| pcjc2 | (but haven't fixed my laptop install yet.. am on a different machine now0 | 23:52 |
| pcjc2 | ) | 23:52 |
| pcjc2 | hah... didn't spot that! | 23:53 |
| pcjc2 | no.. some of the Fedora ones I recognise form git too | 23:53 |
| bryce | yeah, so those will come automatically if/when we get a new -intel release | 23:53 |
| pcjc2 | I think we need to put together a patch with the 855 fixes, and push into Hardy | 23:53 |
| bryce | but if we can key up some of these to high priority issues in the intel tracker, we could sru them into Gutsy | 23:53 |
| * bryce nods | 23:54 | |
| pcjc2 | (We might consider my startup without blinking lots patch for a future push to Hardy) | 23:54 |
| pcjc2 | Sounds like pushing those fixes closes a few bugs, and we can see what is left | 23:54 |
| pcjc2 | I might not be able to look at these tonight (want to fix my laptop install, and its already 12PM) | 23:54 |
| pcjc2 | will try to do so in a day or so.. | 23:55 |
| bryce | no prob | 23:55 |
| bryce | yeah just wanted to mention it since I'm off tomorrow, traveling friday, and then in conference mode for the next 2 weeks | 23:55 |
| bryce | I should still be around online but intermittently, and my productivity is probably not going to be as high; I figure I'll mostly focus on bug triaging and other random bits and pieces | 23:56 |
| pcjc2 | The intel git tree has changed loads since 2.1.1 | 23:56 |
| bryce | yup | 23:57 |
| pcjc2 | Do you know if they planned to do a bugfix release in the 2.1 series, or just finish what they've got in HEAD now? | 23:57 |
| bryce | I went through the full changelog in git to identify this shortlist of "interesting" changes | 23:57 |
| bryce | I've no idea | 23:57 |
| pcjc2 | (might be worth asking them that) | 23:57 |
| bryce | I've been speculating about a 2.1.2 but that's just me | 23:57 |
| bryce | yup definitely | 23:57 |
| bryce | oh also, if there are patches you have or know of, that we should definitely include either in Hardy or as a backport or update to Gutsy, can you add them to that X/Patches page? I can then roll them up and take care of processing them through from there. | 23:58 |
| jcristau | kyle was supposed to do 2.1.2 a while ago, but... | 23:58 |
| bryce | jcristau: do you know if anyone is planning on picking that up? | 23:59 |
| jcristau | i don't | 23:59 |
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