| troy_s | iPhoto -- which supports most raw formats, uses dcraw. | 03:42 |
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| darkmatter | I've offically gone insane... -.- | 10:19 |
| lapo | hi | 11:21 |
| elkbuntu | good to see the artwork wiki space might be a little better organised this time around... | 11:54 |
| mhb | hello artwork masters, do you have any recommendations on books or literature (websites, etc) on icon design that may be helpful for beginners? | 16:38 |
| * mhb would like to learn more about icon design, but doesn't know where to start | 16:39 | |
| nothlit | tango.freedesktop.org | 16:40 |
| nothlit | kde-artists might have a bit | 16:40 |
| nothlit | mhb: are you speaking of general icon design, creating your own theme, or creating application icons that follow tango guidelines??? | 16:41 |
| nothlit | i would start by learning how to draw, and familiarising yourself with inkscape | 16:41 |
| mhb | nothlit: general icon design, I guess | 16:41 |
| nothlit | you can open up the svgs and dissect them from the themes and icons that you like | 16:41 |
| nothlit | icons can be 80% concept sometimes, depending | 16:42 |
| nothlit | besides that, its just knowing how visible things are at small sizes, and scaling etc | 16:42 |
| mhb | hmm, learning how to draw would be the hardest thing for me, I guess. | 16:44 |
| mhb | thanks for the tips, nothlit | 16:44 |
| mhb | are there any Human theme interface Guidelines on the net? | 17:11 |
| mhb | icon, especially | 17:12 |
| nothlit | human was created entirely by an icon design firm | 17:16 |
| nothlit | there are no guidelines that we have for it | 17:16 |
| mhb | nothlit: have we asked them about it? | 17:21 |
| troy_s | mhb: There are none | 17:26 |
| troy_s | mhb: It is the work of exactly one fellow at IconFactory -- and considering that he would take his cues from higher up, you can expect zero as Ubuntu's higher level design is well... non-existent. | 17:26 |
| mhb | yummy, reverse engineering | 17:29 |
| troy_s | LOL | 17:29 |
| troy_s | mhb: Assuming there is enough of a body of work within the Human iconset to build outwards from. | 17:30 |
| mhb | by the way, do you do graphics (in inkscape for example) with tablets? | 17:30 |
| troy_s | mhb: Some do. | 17:30 |
| troy_s | mhb: Not terribly relevant for 'drawing' if you aren't familiar with illustration etc. That said, there are many a professional environment (Technicolour for example) that use tablets for ease of workflow (dust removal / touching / etc.) | 17:31 |
| troy_s | mhb: Inkscape can be powerful even for the pedantic -- draw a straight line with mouse, twiddle, etc. | 17:31 |
| troy_s | mhb: If it works for you -- do it. The Wacom Bamboo line is very affordable and very good -- in fact at least as good as the Int line minus 512 levels of sensitivity and angle sensitivity (not terribly relevant to most people) | 17:32 |
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| mhb | evil lags .o) | 17:37 |
| nothlit | i only use a mouse in inkscape, but i might be a tad obsessed with clean splines | 17:39 |
| nothlit | i think you can have a perfectly good workflow if you sketch on paper before transposing | 17:39 |
| troy_s | mhb: You might be interested to try a Bamboo tablet. | 17:41 |
| troy_s | mhb: For some, the workflow increases dramatically. For others, not so much. | 17:41 |
| troy_s | mhb: Best off... they won't break your budget. | 17:41 |
| mhb | troy_s: thanks! | 17:42 |
| mhb | to both of you for the hints | 17:42 |
| mhb | do you know if the dholbach's page on icon comparison between human/tangerine/tango is still running? | 17:43 |
| nothlit | i would think so | 17:44 |
| troy_s | mhb: I fear Daniel has been sucked into a higher level of busy-ness. | 17:44 |
| troy_s | mhb: So I wouldn't rely on it too heavily -- heck. Everyone misses Daniel's day to day help. | 17:44 |
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