[00:00] What kind of game is blobwars? [00:00] 2d Side scrolling massacre [00:00] lol [00:00] >: D [00:01] There's a 3D sequel called Blob adn Conquer [00:01] Haha [00:01] ;) [00:02] lol [00:02] I have another question while waiting for the installer to comple [00:02] te [00:03] Go on [00:03] How do you install software on the Ubuntu systems?I know how to do it with the Software remove utility, but say i wan to install firefox 2.0.0.8. i download it and get a package named firefox2.0.0.8.tar.gz [00:04] synaptic [00:04] Syn what? [00:04] synaptic it is the package manager [00:04] Ah ok [00:04] I was already wondering if i had to do it manually [00:04] applications-> system-> synaptic [00:04] Thanks [00:04] or from the command line: sudo apt-get install *name of package* [00:04] Installer is at 15% now, thanks for all the support [00:05] no problem :) [00:05] Synaptic is our secret weapon against Windoze [00:05] Haha [00:06] Synaptic, ruthlessness and surprise [00:06] ANd an almost fanatical dedication to the Pope [00:06] make sure you enable all the repositories [00:06] Lol, seems the installer is frozen [00:06] it will seem that way [00:06] but just let it sit there [00:06] Can't move the mouse, even turning on capslock doen't work [00:06] Oh ok [00:07] oh that might be bad then [00:07] Ooh [00:07] if you cant do anything or get caps lock on then you probably have to restart [00:07] Maybe it's detecting the mouse and keyboard? [00:08] possible [00:08] but should have done that when you selected region though [00:09] Has he done that yet? [00:09] thought so [00:09] Yes i did [00:09] It's a while since I last installed Ubuntu [00:09] I was at the step where i had to enter my name and password [00:09] Then clicked next, and now it is installing the system [00:09] Is it still unresponsive? [00:09] Yes it is [00:10] Im going to give it a reboot [00:10] Okay [00:10] i still think the alternate install is the best option in this case [00:10] Yes i think so [00:10] Ill re format the HD ( just to be sure nothing is left) [00:10] 30 minutes till Alternate CD is complete [00:11] Good luck SuicideCow [00:11] K [00:11] grr cant get my desktop cube to be a cube [00:11] You know what i also love about this laptop? [00:12] hiho [00:12] It doesn't has an Internet port xD [00:12] Just an old Modem Cable(the thin ones) [00:12] I want a desktop cube :( [00:13] does it at least have a pcmcia slot? [00:13] yes it does [00:13] why cant you get one [00:13] I don't know how [00:13] Well, a friend has two of them 56k modem PCMCIA slot xD [00:13] But he can't find the propper cables [00:13] lol [00:13] And if im correct it also had Wireless internet( Guess 802.11a xD ) [00:14] I have compiz installed, but I don't know how to start it up [00:14] alt + F2 compiz --replace [00:15] you also have to have XGL installed: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl [00:16] Hang on [00:18] 22 minutes people :D [00:18] there are more steps if you arent running gutsy [00:18] Installing xserver-xgl [00:20] What is actually the big difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu [00:21] ubuntu uses GNOME and kubuntu uses KDE [00:21] ok..... [00:22] basically they perform the same task by giving you the user, an environment to use your computer [00:22] just do it in different ways [00:23] Ah [00:23] GNOME uses GTK+ and KDE uses QT [00:23] Ah [00:24] which are different programming libraries if i'm not mistaken [00:24] Okidoki, i first thought GNOME and KDE were methodes of rendering( effects and stuff like that) [00:24] no [00:25] they are desktop environments= window manager + applications + file manager [00:25] Ok, i understand now, thanks [00:26] welcome [00:26] finally put some of what i learned in school to use [00:26] :) [00:26] Haha [00:26] Our school teacher for the lesson with computers is an InfranView Freak [00:27] If you say something like: "Mister, i need to go to the toiled" Then he says: "NO, INFRANVIEW BITCH! " [00:27] (not realy, but that doesn matter :P ) [00:29] How do i change my name here, i am using Xchat [00:30] nevermind [00:31] * SuicideCow writes [00:31] lol [00:31] * SuicideCow is doing something [00:34] Im back [00:36] 4 MINUTES TILL ALTERNATE CD IS DOWNLOADED :) [00:36] FUCK [00:36] And i just discovered i burned my last CD [00:37] And this laptop doesn' reads DVDś [00:37] how do I have to edit fstab to make xubuntu 7.04 not tell me failed to eject when I push the eject button on rom drive? [00:37] Wait, found one :P [00:38] YorickPeterse= SuicideCow? [00:38] Yes [00:39] Changed my nickname [00:39] 55 seconds :p [00:39] sweet [00:40] Now let's hope i don't burn the disc at a too high speed [00:40] ok now Icannot get my dvd out [00:40] lol [00:40] The DVD Drive is hungry :p [00:40] plextor junk [00:41] that is my preferred brand [00:41] still rocking PX-716a [00:41] :) [00:41] want me to make you hate them? [00:41] I have a LG [00:41] that what this one is === rob1 is now known as rob [00:41] LG is nice [00:41] evil_tech, [00:42] NICK Yorick [00:42] crap === YorickPeterse is now known as donut === donut is now known as YorickPeterse [00:43] evil_tech, do you have any problems with it under xubuntu? [00:43] cause thats what I have exact model [00:43] not with xubuntu 7.04 [00:43] havent upgraded the machine it is in to 7.10 yet [00:44] but it works fine with Brasero and K3B [00:45] Okidoki, nero is at 93% :D [00:46] And it is ready :D [00:47] let her boot [00:47] Let's hope she will :P [00:48] Oh [00:48] evil_tech, what do you get for dvd burn speeds? [00:48] Should i install it in Text mode? [00:48] yes [00:48] Ok [00:49] as for burn speeds ive burned DVD at 12x [00:49] DVD5 [00:49] i have a hard time finding dual layer media faster than 2x so im stuck burning DVD9 at 2x [00:49] yes dvd 5 [00:50] ok can you help me make mine burn that fast cause I don't know what im doing wrong [00:51] I never get over 4x-6x [00:51] what program? [00:51] and what is the speed of the media? [00:51] 52x vertibatim and maxell [00:52] and no name [00:52] opps [00:52] 16x [00:52] looking at it right now I an get full speed with cdr [00:52] can [00:52] so its just DVD that is slow [00:52] k3b [00:52] yes [00:53] whats the device configuration in the machine look like. cause my drive is on its own IDE channel and gets fed data by a RAID 5 array [00:54] pata [00:54] but works at right speeds under win [00:54] is DMA turned on? [00:55] i865 chipset [00:55] and have you told K3B to burn at the max [00:55] yes [00:55] ok I have a question about dma [00:55] cause i think it defaults to 4-6x if it cant determine the speeds [00:56] with the new kernels do you need to set up hdparm? [00:56] not usually [00:57] I will test again cause I have a brand new three day old install [00:58] I have been having this issue for months trying to track an answer [00:59] I gotta go now, the installer is working so far, See you and thanks for the support [00:59] there is a k3b irc channel [00:59] no problem good luck [00:59] all programs were slow [00:59] hmm [00:59] some didn't even work [01:00] xfburn never worked for me [01:00] even had problems with brasero on some machines [01:00] k3b is my preferred [01:00] some would be three times as slow [01:00] same [01:00] had the best luck with it so far [01:00] sorry just ripping some files to hdd [01:00] to copy back [01:01] like 1.4 hours to burn dvd5 [01:01] jeesh thats slow [01:01] the burner in my laptop burns dvd5 faster [01:02] what do you use for media [01:02] maxell and memorex [01:03] have you heard plextor is making new drives not work with free software [01:03] not as in free as in beer [01:03] no havent heard that [01:03] thats unfortunate [01:03] well i got to go to class [01:04] routers to program :) [01:04] shoot [01:04] are you going to be around after [01:05] ill be online at school [01:05] so can ask back in abit [01:05] if i can get IRC plugin to work on pidgin [01:05] otherwise there are plenty of other fine folks that can help [01:06] and there is always the kubuntu and ubuntu channels [01:06] ok cause your like the only one with a near same config [01:06] :) [01:06] l8r [01:06] peace [01:23] hola amigos. I have problem with xfce. I run nm-applet to manage my connection, though it starts three times when I log into X! [01:28] ok I installed k3b from synaptic and will not open? [01:30] and no updates available [01:30] trying to create local folder /home/cjae/.kde/share: Permission denied [01:30] trying to create local folder /home/cjae/.kde/share: Permission denied [01:30] trying to create local folder /home/cjae/.kde/share: Permission denied [01:30] trying to create local folder /home/cjae/.kde/socket-cicero: Permission denied [01:30] trying to create local folder /home/cjae/.kde/socket-cicero: Permission denied [01:30] kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied [01:30] Could not bind to socket '/home/cjae/.kde/socket-cicero/kdeinit__0' [01:31] ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication. [01:31] !paste [01:31] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:32] mehevi: start nm-applet with --sm-disable [01:32] hey silliness, how about you run synaptic as a superuser [01:32] mehevi: kill off all the existing copies of nm-applet first of coruse [01:32] makes me put in password [01:33] and why is this not a default setup [01:33] maybe it didn't this time ill check [01:34] zoredache where would I find where it starts nm-applet? I edited my autostart file through xfce gui but its not even in there... I checked .config but still no dice. [01:34] just gonna start using apt-get all the time [01:35] silliness use gksudo synaptic to start synaptic [01:35] mehevi, yah but it is just being lazy on my part should be using cli [01:36] Man, xserver-xgl sucks on a 256mb machine [01:37] brb going to try this [01:39] holy crap! I added it with --sm-disabled and I got five instances of it at boot [01:39] mehevi, still won't start [01:40] what wont start [01:40] k3b [01:40] did you install it? [01:40] yes [01:40] has the permission error [01:40] try /usr/bin/k3b, if that is the binary name [01:41] well sudo k3b then [01:42] do I have to run it as root the first time and how do I make synaptic ask password again from the apps menu [01:43] zoredache its starting before my autostart list is parsed, when my session starts (I use the simple splash) I can see it flash by before autostart, where is that list of programs it runs at login? [01:43] silliness edit shortcut to be gksudo synaptic [01:43] good day.. wanted to know how i can prevent a user from removing the xfce panel? [01:43] I've never used KDE or KDE apps silliness [01:44] hrm... [01:44] xoss, run xfce panel at a higher permission than the user? [01:45] then they wouldnt be able to change it either, I suppose. [01:45] mehevi: how do i do that? [01:45] xoss I dunno I'm an idea man. [01:45] mehevi: ok, thanks anyway [01:46] sorry I'm newbish :( [01:46] mehevi: it's okay [01:47] oh crap zoredache I think it may be in my gnome applications startup, since I load parts of gnome for applets [01:49] ok just found a entry for nm in /.config/autostart. removed, rebooting. [01:53] craaaap. now I have four instances running at startup [01:53] i've noticed that after updating to gutsy, firefox moves its window to my current window whenever I follow a link from an external application [01:54] I've made it worse [01:54] i absolutely do not want this. is the issue with firefox or xfce [01:54] which application? Terminal? [01:54] mostly terminal [01:54] but also pidgin [01:55] well, dont update to gutsy then. hehe, kidding. [01:57] i hate traffic [02:02] yeah it sucks. Those cageriders hate it when you ride a bike too. [02:03] oh [02:03] i have discovered a solution to this on the internets [02:03] it appears it's an issue with xfce4.4.1 and later [02:08] actualy [02:08] hm [02:09] maybe the issues is with firefox, but xfce has a way to deal with it [02:43] Does anyone know how to lock your session on xubuntu? [02:53] ctrl alt del i think [02:53] is silliness on? [02:55] great, it works. Thanks! [03:02] your welcome [05:19] hurrrrrr [05:19] what is with python-mode in emacs22 [05:20] it doesn't indent properly at all [05:20] this is completely unacceptable [05:20] why did the update force me to uninstall python-mode? [06:13] Is it possible to install xubuntu/ubuntu with a minimal install with no X11 and such? [06:14] I'm trying to remove as much of gnome dependencies as possible, but finding that not installing them in the first place might be a better approach. [06:17] PiousMinion: You can do anything from a minimal install, yes. [06:22] PiousMinion using the alternate install disk you can do a commandline install and then add from there. [06:24] PiousMinion the commands to get minimal kde up and running are on this page http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core [06:25] thanks [06:25] kde and minimal in the same sentence. heh [06:27] PiousMinion some more http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal#barebones [06:28] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu [06:30] Other than gdm, what parts of the standard xubuntu desktop require gnome dependencies? [06:33] PiousMinion: Not sure, but Gutsy has a lot more than Feisty did. [06:33] aye [06:35] hey guys, how big is a xubuntu installation ? [06:35] mine is bout 1.9gb [06:35] PiousMinion, do you put extra stuff on there ? [06:35] idk what it is "stock". [06:36] yes [06:36] what's the minimum ? [06:36] lol [06:36] i want to know if a 1gb usb can be used with it [06:36] doesn't that include large things like open office ? [06:36] I doubt it. I'm sure it's more than 1gb. [06:37] LastMall: ? [06:37] a standard xubutnu install includes open office, corrrect ? [06:37] yell0w: You might be able to boot the live enviroment from the usb drive. :) [06:38] LastMall: I'm showing just the word processor part. [06:38] that's a thought [06:38] since the cd's only 700mb [06:38] yell0w: : aye. I've managed to do that with knoppix in the past. [06:44] LastMall: yes, just Writer and core. [07:43] Anyone have any idea if it's possible to set up a dual screen setup with one of the displays being attached to a different box? [07:44] yes [07:44] it is possible [07:45] Can you point me in the right direction please? [07:48] ah, well that is a much trickier question... [07:48] a package/project name maybe? [07:50] I thought Xinerama, but I am not so sure [07:51] yeah, afaik xinerama just the module that allows dual screens in general. Other packages I've found simply share the mouse and keyboard with a completely separate display and such do not allow me to drag windows from one to the other. :/ [07:52] synergy is great for that but is not what I'm looking for. [07:52] I am almost certain I have seen what you want, but I am not finding it in my bookmarks... [07:59] woe is me [08:02] you might consider asking in #ubuntu or #debian where there are more users [08:03] debian yeah, but #ubuntu is full of 12 year olds ranting about stuff easily found in FAQs. [08:03] they wouldn't help with the details, but you may find someone to point you in the right direction [08:03] that's all I'm asking. hehe [08:04] I wish my brain worked better... I am almost certain I read an bookmarked an article about this.... [08:07] xdmx? [08:07] http://dmx.sourceforge.net/ [08:08] that just may be it. :) [08:08] thanks === [1]Netham45 is now known as Netham45 [09:27] hello there. How to solve "adding xubuntu to the /etc/host " problem. [09:27] any guy can help me? [09:27] erm, which problem? [09:28] desper, more information required [09:28] any time after the login. it tells me to add xubuntu to the host file [09:28] also did you mean /etc/hosts? [09:28] no. it said "host", maybe i can try hosts :) nice hint [09:29] it could have meant putting xubuntu (if that's your computer's name) as an alias for localhost [09:30] yes it seems so. but adding xubuntu [yes, it's my computer name], but it does not work. I am gonna try /etc/hosts [09:31] rebooting. thanks nanonyme [10:24] Hello. Anyone know how to change the shortcut keys? [10:26] I thought it might be amusingly ironic to use my Windows Start key to bring up the XFCE menu [10:39] thesheep? [10:40] Radomir [10:41] Mark76: you can edit your keybindings in keyboard settings [10:41] I looked at that but there was no editing option [10:42] you mustt make a new 'theme' [10:42] Right [10:42] there ids a 'new' button under 'default' [10:42] with the new one you can edit all you like :] [10:42] Aff? [10:42] Add? [10:42] oh add, yes sorry hehe [10:43] Got it [10:43] How do I change the key or key combination a particular command uses? [10:44] hi there, the 'save session' option messed something up here, there is xchat and psi starting but nothing else, no panels, no nothing, and I don't know how I can get a default session. [10:45] At the moment the xfce3-popup-menu is set to ctrl+Escape [10:45] Try alt+F... Never mind [10:46] Mark76: remove it, andh amke a new one :] [10:46] Ah yes [10:46] Good idea [10:46] :P [10:47] any idea where the saved sessions are saved? [10:48] lYou're back [10:49] I wish I did [10:50] Drat. The Windows key doesn't work :( [10:53] How disappointing [10:53] aww [10:54] It would have made a handy menu popup key [10:54] is it already in use by something else? [10:55] No, but I think I know what's happening [10:55] The Default setting is overriding my new one [11:01] So I need to set my new choices as the default [11:02] Hey, AlanBShepherd70. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:8772553.jpg Nice togs [11:17] Morning [11:20] It's a rotten looking day here [11:23] there comes the sunshine :] [11:27] Have you worked out how I can override the keyboard shortcuts defaults yet/ [11:27] ? [11:33] no [11:33] :] [11:33] :( [11:33] i think i'm going to take a shower [11:33] Okay [11:33] though i hate it [11:33] Heh [12:50] Hello [12:51] I've just downloaded the Xubuntu Gutsy CDROM and booted my PC with it, but whenever I to go to "Start or install Xubuntu" it does nothing [12:51] I downloaded it using BitTorrent, so it should be verified for errors [12:51] !md5 | znh [12:51] znh: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [12:52] BitTorrent verifies it... [12:52] but fine i'll md5sum it [12:53] znh: it could also be a bad burn [12:53] true [12:57] Question. How would Xubuntu perform on a 600mhz/256 MB RAM computer? All I do is browse and do school stuff on it [13:05] znh: as long as you run one application at a time, it should do fine [13:05] znh: unless 'school stuff' means a lot of openoffice or 3d editing software [13:05] allot of OpenOffice [13:06] Oofice worked perfectly though under other operating systems [13:06]