[00:00] <sven_> !apt-fix
[00:00] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:02] <Mace68> hmmm...
[00:02] <Mace68> !acpi
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:03] <Mace68> worth a shot lol
[00:03] <sven_> Is there anything known about adept manager crashing your X server when installing software? this has happened to me various times already..
[00:03] <Thylio> Yeah me to. been getting it alot latly
[00:03] <sven_> adept downloads the software, and in the moment its starts the installation, BOOOOM, X restarts to the login screen
[00:04] <sven_> then I try it again with the same software, and there is no problem at all.. it just installs ok
[00:04] <sven_> Thylio, anything to fix that?
[00:05] <galorin> apt-get  on the command line?
[00:05] <Thylio> No srry, havent gotten that noob just jet
[00:06] <Thylio> Ment neerd
[00:08] <Thylio> I also have another problem, when i try to install somthing, i get a message saing that the packagemanger has failed to download, or the files cant open properly.
[00:10] <level1_> Hi, I got gutsy when it was in beta and have been upgrading it... when gutsy came out officially, adept started asking me to upgrade (to gutsy?)... should I run the update manager
[00:11] <Angelus> no level1_ it's a bug
[00:11] <stdin> level1_: you can, it'll do no harm. but you are already on gutsy (it's a known bug that it still asks)
[00:11] <Angelus> an adept bug
[00:12] <Angelus> i doubt its an adept bug do
[00:12] <level1_> okay, good
[00:12] <Angelus> i think its a gutsy bug
[00:12] <stdin> if you enable gutsy-proposed you'll get the update
[00:12] <Thylio> It usualy just shutdown under updating anyways
[00:12] <Angelus> cause no website/program detects gutsy
[00:12] <sub[t]rnl> huh?
[00:12] <sub[t]rnl> my nmap sure does
[00:12] <Angelus> means,
[00:13] <Angelus> if you go to frostwire.com for example
[00:13] <Angelus> it will not give you the ubuntu download automatically like it used to do on feisty
[00:13] <stdin> that's up to frostwire.com. nothing we can do
[00:13] <sub[t]rnl> whats that have to do with the adept bug?
[00:13] <barbaros> i just want to thank all kubuntu developper sincerely
[00:14] <Thylio> About forstwire, i cant install it, beacause i dont have Java,   But when i try so install java in adept, i just get a failure message!
[00:14] <barbaros> good job really :)
[00:14] <stdin> barbaros: tell them in #kubuntu-devel that's where they hang out :)
[00:15] <Angelus> Thylio: its not a failure masage ,   its you not accepting java's licence agrement
[00:15] <ubuntu_> Does anyone have an idea why iwconfig will stop working after wpa_supplicant is used and closed? NDISwrapper driver. Once wpa_supplicant closes, the data in iwconfig "locks" and I suddenly can't set anything like SSID or frequency, and threfore I can't associate. WPA supplicant still works, so it's not broken. The only way to fix it is to reload the ndiswrapper driver.
[00:16] <Thylio> Angelus; The thing is, i do accept the licence. I press "I agree" every time i try.
[00:16] <ubuntu_> no errors in any log files that i know of, "set essid" shows up in iwevent, etc
[00:16] <ubuntu_> but i can't change anything
[00:17] <Thylio> Angelus: Do u think its bether if i install java in konsole
[00:18] <sub[t]rnl> ndiswrapper has some limitations that a manufacturer driver goes around, such as setting your iwconfig to monitor mode.  Not sure Thylio but I ran across someone with a similiar problem on a forum
[00:18] <sub[t]rnl> see if I can dig it up
[00:18] <ubuntu_> iwconfig works befire I start up wpa supplicant, so it doesn't shut it off at the start
[00:19] <Angelus> Thylio:  go to adept , and there's a package called , "kubuntu-restrected-extras" something like that, just search for kubuntu it will pop it out. install it, it will install java
[00:19] <Thylio> Angelus: Okay
[00:20] <Angelus> :)
[00:20] <ubuntu_> on a related note, iwlist scan doesn't update at all
[00:20] <Angelus> finaly, some seeders on the dvd torrent!
[00:20] <Thylio> !apfix
[00:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:20] <Angelus> 300+kB/s , nice
[00:20] <Thylio> !aptfix
[00:20] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:20] <ubuntu_> if it were in monitor mode, i would think that would still work
[00:22] <ubuntu_> I have to go for a few minutes.
[00:24] <Thylio> I still got problem while downloading package!
[00:24] <Angelus> :o
[00:24] <Angelus> format?
[00:24] <Angelus> LoL
[00:25] <Thylio> no please
[00:25] <Angelus> it's fun
[00:26] <Angelus> i formated 5times 2days ago
[00:26] <Thylio> No, i hate it. Only got a 40gig harddrive, so i dont bother to partition my hdd.
[00:27] <Thylio> Jeez, xmms  went offline to -.-
[00:28] <Angelus> :D
[00:29] <Angelus> you're pc is getting evil
[00:29] <Angelus> tried to reboot?
[00:29] <Thylio> Well, school in 5houres, i'm guessing ill be back tomorrow with new problems.
[00:29] <Ngo> Is there a way to use key sequences to switch keyboard layouts in kubuntu?
[00:30] <Thylio> Tomorrow is a new day! Maybe it's fixed by then:)
[00:30] <ubuntu_> Any ideas on my ndiswrapper roblem?
[00:31] <ubuntu_> there are a few computers around with the same wireless cards and they do fine
[00:31] <andresj> hi, I am currently upgrading my system from Feisty to Gutsy, but it threw me an error. something about debconf not being able to install, "segmentation fault". Then there was an error installing the next two packages, and now it's stalled on zlib1g-dev. any thoughts?
[00:33] <andresj> apparently, I'm not the only one with this problem: www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg516806.html
[00:34] <Angelus> somebody knows how to edit the livedvd/livecd boot up script from an iso image? i wanna stop a program from runing on startup
[00:37] <andresj> anybody?
[00:37] <andresj> i want to cancel it, but then it would render my computer "unusable"...
[00:38] <fluffman> andresj: you'll probably have to cancel
[00:38] <fluffman> and install from the CD
[00:38] <andresj> mm... what about my data?
[00:38] <andresj> is there an option in the cd to upgrade
[00:38] <ubuntu_> what kind of vital information do you have on it? you can mount your HD fro mthe livecd
[00:39] <andresj> ?
[00:39] <ubuntu_> and copy anything to a sub
[00:39] <ubuntu_> usb
[00:39] <andresj> well, I doubt I can copy all my files to an usb of 2GB...
[00:39] <fluffman> the live cd comes with K3B
[00:40] <fluffman> and NTFS write support
[00:40] <ubuntu_> do you have another computer that you can transfer files over to?
[00:40] <fluffman> so you can burn a DVD or backup to an external HDD
[00:40] <andresj> mm... yes, but it doesn't have that much space, either.
[00:40] <andresj> I might be able to repartition the disk
[00:40] <andresj> and use a new partition to install gutsy...
[00:40] <fluffman> yeah if you have enough room that would def. work
[00:41] <andresj> let me see... `kdf`
[00:41] <andresj> how can i see how much space do i have?
[00:42] <andresj> kinfocenter crashes after i click on anything, and kdf is not installed...
[00:42] <makuseru> is there anyway to turn a .swf (just a flash movie not a flash game or anything, into some other video format?
[00:42] <fluffman> andresj: open konqueror
[00:42] <fluffman> to your root directory
[00:42] <fluffman> and it should tell you along the bottom
[00:42] <andresj> fluffman, never mind, i opened gparted :)
[00:42] <fluffman> gotcha
[00:43] <andresj> wow, ok I have about 4 times available space than what is used
[00:43] <andresj> so I guess i'll download the gutsy disk and reinstall...
[00:43] <andresj> I was hoping I didn't have to reinstall linux again... (well, to think of it, it's been ~3 months)
[00:44] <shukty> hi  my question is : i got amule i wonna set a list of ip address to block how can i do it [ ip server list ] tnx
[00:44] <andresj> well, thanks fluffman and ubuntu_
[00:48] <dcosson> has anyone had any trouble with usb hard drives automounting since upgrading to gutsy?
[00:48] <shukty> i got same probl
[00:49] <andresj> dcosson, how did you upgrade to gutsy? (I had to cancel it, because it stalled in the middle)
[00:49] <dcosson> andresj:  fresh install.  automounted fine under feisty
[00:50] <dcosson> (using the live cd installer as opposed to the alternate installer.  haven't tried the alternate)
[00:50] <andresj> oh. ok. I don't know anything about that problem (sorry); I just wanted to see if I didn't _have_ to do a fresh install :)
[00:50] <dcosson> ah
[00:50] <ubuntu_> all my flash drives are mounting fine
[00:51] <ubuntu_> I had one problem where I mounted a second HD to copy files before doing a fresh install, and thereafter linux kept trying to mount my flash drive to that mount point
[00:51] <ubuntu_> instead of the normal one, meaning i kept getting permission errors
[00:52] <fluffman> you'll need to edit /etc/fstab
[00:52] <fluffman> or maybe mtab
[00:52] <fluffman> !fstab
[00:52] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[00:52] <ubuntu_> well i just deleted the mount point because i didn't need it anymore, and that fixed it
[00:52] <fluffman> cool
[00:53] <dcosson> i hate to say it, but the default ubuntu desktop in gutsy has been easier for me to use, and nicer, than kubuntu
[00:54] <Tm_T> I wonder what does current default look
[00:55] <dcosson> current default ubuntu has compositing effects enabled by default that were cool and fluid out of the box... the install-restricted-codecs thing when launching proprietary media in totem was handy too
[00:55] <ubuntu_> also, kopete crashes whenever I try to connect to MSN with it
[00:56] <dcosson> kaffeine just throws an error when i try to play proprietary media.  i mean i know how to do it, it's just that they've made it easier.
[00:58] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: really?
[00:59] <Tm_T> dcosson: I thought it should do like totem
[00:59] <shukty> can i ask where is the path of amule ?
[00:59] <dcosson> i hate totem as a media player.  but that was cool.
[01:00] <Tm_T> dcosson: yes, but I think we should have same ability in KDE side
[01:00] <dcosson> i hate gnome in general but i am using it until i can figure out my automounting problem
[01:00] <Tm_T> shukty: no idea, never even seen amule
[01:00] <fluffman> should swap go at the end of a drive, or the beginning?
[01:00] <Tm_T> fluffman: as you like
[01:00] <Tm_T> dcosson: what problem?
[01:00] <Kr4t05> fluffman: Doesn't matter. :P
[01:00] <fluffman> k
[01:00] <fluffman> just wondering
[01:01] <dcosson> Tm_T:  usb HD does not automount since upgrading to gutsy
[01:01] <fluffman> I've always put it at the end, but never really thought about it
[01:01] <Tm_T> dcosson: automount when plugging in?
[01:01] <dcosson> Tm_T: does under gnome/ubuntu but not under kubuntu
[01:01] <dcosson> Tm_T: no, when booting up
[01:01] <ubuntu_> Tm_T yeah, both in my guysy install and the liveCD
[01:01] <Tm_T> dcosson: booting up? hmm, thats something I dont know
[01:01] <dcosson> Tm_T:  if after bootup I unplug the USB and plug it back in, it mounts
[01:02] <dcosson> but that's really irritating and gnome does it so until i figure it out i'm living in ubuntu
[01:02] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: in gutsy install, go and install kdenetwork-dbg, run kopete from Konsole and pastebin ale traces you get thanks
[01:03] <Tm_T> dcosson: have you check your automount settings in KDE yet?
[01:03] <dcosson> Tm_T: i glanced over them, everything looked right
[01:03] <Tm_T> dcosson: doublecheck
[01:03] <dcosson> i'm going to go over to kde and look again :-)
[01:03] <shukty> i can t find the folder of .amule is it hidden or ... pls s.o.s.
[01:04] <andresj> shutky, how are you looking for it?
[01:04] <dcosson> This is a really noob question but I've never really used 2 desktop environments at once... is it possible to go from gnome to kde and have all of my apps stay open?
[01:04] <andresj> shukty, how are you looking for it?
[01:04] <shukty> i m looking for the location of .amule
[01:04] <ubuntu_> holy shit, 243mb
[01:05] <andresj> ~/.amule/
[01:05] <shukty> indeed tnx
[01:05] <stdin> !language | ubuntu_
[01:05] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:05] <ubuntu_> Tm_T: i'm on the livecd right now so I can't do it. can i email it to you when i get home?
[01:05] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: just pastebin it and /msg me
[01:06] <Angelus> is there a way to stop a program from runing on startup on the livecd/dvd ?
[01:06] <Tm_T> if I'm not online, there's nuclear war going on and you shouldnt be in irc
[01:06] <ubuntu_> ok
[01:07] <andresj> Angelus, I guess you could creaet a new livecd, modifying that part. there is a guide somewhere...
[01:07] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu_- talking about Kopete crashing with MSN?
[01:07] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: yes
[01:07] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it's a known issue
[01:07] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: it is? what bugnumber?
[01:07] <Dragnslcr> A lot of people have reported it
[01:08] <Angelus> andresj: can you find it for me? al i wanna disable is powernowd, cause it crashes my system and i have to make a forced reboot as soon as it starts
[01:08] <Dragnslcr> Let me see if I can find it in the mailing list
[01:08] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: thanks
[01:09] <andresj> Angelus, it's a somewhat lengthy process, and it allows you to install/remove programs and edit everything you want in the livecd. here is the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:10] <aaron_> so...tell me again how to do an in place upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[01:10] <stdin> seen the link in the topic ?
[01:11] <Angelus> andresj: isn't there an easy way to just stop powernowd from runing on startup? like a kernel parametre
[01:11] <Dragnslcr> Tm_T- Bug 150913 is the first number I happen to come across
[01:11] <aaron_> ah thanks
[01:11] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: not related
[01:12] <ubuntu_> hmm
[01:12] <ubuntu_> i have 800mb in swap space left but it's saying i'm out of memory
[01:13] <ubuntu_> when trying to install that debug program
[01:13] <Dragnslcr> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149623 I think is the original report
[01:13] <andresj> [my internet connection broke down. now it's ok] Angelus, it's a somewhat lengthy process, and it allows you to install/remove programs and edit everything you want in the livecd. here is the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:13] <shukty> i can t move inside that ~/.amule/ even with root privileges ... duds can u help me again tnx
[01:14] <stdin> Dragnslcr: I'm guessing you mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/98751
[01:14] <hellhound> what software is used to edit an existing partition?  Currently I have two partitions (/ and swap) and i want to resize my root partition and create a /home partion
[01:14] <Angelus> andresj: isn't there an easy way to just stop powernowd from runing on startup? like a kernel parametre
[01:14] <andresj> Angelus, I don't know... It might say on /path/to/mounted/cd/CHEATCODES*
[01:15] <Angelus> cheatcodes?
[01:15] <Angelus> :o
[01:15] <Dragnslcr> stdin- nope, was talking about the MSN crash in Kopete
[01:15] <stdin> Dragnslcr: yep, that's it
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> hellhound- you can boot from a LiveCD and use parted/gparted/qtparted
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu_- some discussion about it on launchpad as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/153500
[01:17] <hellhound> Dragnslcr: thank you... do I need to do anything special to make the /home move as smooth as possible?
[01:17] <aaron_> cant verify the integrity of this updater tool
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> hellhound- it worked perfectly for me, but making backups of stuff never hurts
[01:17] <aaron_> what on earth
[01:17] <hellhound> Dragnslcr: ok thanks again
[01:19] <aaron_> oh it worked this time...I hope upgrading doesn't break everything
[01:19] <Dragnslcr> Not everything
[01:19] <aaron_> :p
[01:19] <Dragnslcr> Your keyboard will probably still work
[01:19] <aaron_> argh why is there still an old version of xchat in the repos
[01:20] <Angelus> andresj: editing the dvd/cd looks fun, so i'll give a try using your guide, thanks.
[01:20] <andresj> Angelus, no prob. I agree it looks fun, I just didn't have any creative ideas to modify to livecd :)
[01:20] <Dragnslcr> If you have a dual-core CPU, pay attention to the default kernel option in grub after you upgrade. It got switched to -386 on me, which doesn't seem to use both cores correctly
[01:22] <aaron_> nah its an old celeron
[01:22] <aaron_> 1.2ghz
[01:22] <aaron_> 'so not that old
[01:22] <aaron_> but DANG does kubuntu run great on it
[01:22] <aaron_> I thought I'd have to go xubuntu...but nope
[01:25] <ubuntu_> do they even make celerons anymore?
[01:25] <aaron_> nah
[01:25] <aaron_> oh wow, changing your time preferences is pretty sweet
[01:26] <aaron_> you can put them in any order you want
[01:26] <aaron_> man...I wish I didn't play games...cause I'd use ubuntu all the time...this computer is my gfs
[01:26] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: nope, thats not relevant either
[01:26] <XenThraL> hum, my overlay seems to crap out after a while, randomly, and when I try to play videos it just shows a green image
[01:26] <XenThraL> can only seem to fix it by restarting X
[01:27] <ubuntu_> yeah, the only thing stopping me from switching entirely to kubuntu is the games
[01:27] <Tm_T> ?
[01:27] <aaron_> my macbook pro has os x and vista...and I only really run vista...games again
[01:27] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: games?
[01:28] <aaron_> i love team fortress 2...that game is amazing
[01:28] <dcosson> Tm_T:  remember me?  my usb HD needs to show up in fstab if it's going to automount on boot right?
[01:28] <ubuntu_> games made for windows
[01:28] <aaron_> is there a util to monitor bandwidth usage?
[01:28] <Dragnslcr> Tm_T- what isn't relevant to what?
[01:28] <Tm_T> dcosson: well that might help, though, because its usb, its hotplug, and IMO that would be wrong way to go
[01:28] <ubuntu_> some stuff runs with wine, but many programs have lots of graphical bugs and stuff
[01:28] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: bugreports
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> Tm_T- you weren't talking about Kopete crashing?
[01:29] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: yes, but havent seen any relevant report or other information
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> well, bnr2 took a big ol' dump :\
[01:30] <dcosson> Tm_T:  ok... well, i don't get it... in the drive properties, automount is checked... the drive is there but it won't show up on the desktop unless i unplug/replug or manually go to /media/sdb1/
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> it hangs on deleting expired messages
[01:30] <Tm_T> dcosson: hmm, interesting
[01:30] <Tm_T> dcosson: I wonder if you like to have script doing that on login
[01:31] <dcosson> Tm_T: yeah, that would work, but it's not the root problem, and it will irritate me lol
[01:31] <Tm_T> dcosson: if its seamless? ;)
[01:31] <dcosson> lol
[01:31] <dcosson> it just bugs me that this worked perfectly under feisty
[01:32] <Tm_T> well thats weird
[01:32] <Tm_T> but doh
[01:32] <Tm_T> dcosson: anyone can verify it happens in other systems too?
[01:33] <dcosson> i haven't really run into anyone that can.  I have a feeling it's my problem, probably... i just can't figure it out
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> man, i don't want to give up bnr2 :(
[01:33] <BrightEyes`> any ways for watching wmv videos in  kubuntu 7.10?
[01:33] <dcosson> Tm_T:  another weird thing, the drive is now located at /media/sdb1/ ... under feisty it was at /media/YURI/ (the name i gave the drive :-))
[01:34] <dcosson> BrightEyes`: you have to install proprietary codecs... there's a number of ways to do it...
[01:34] <Tm_T> !mp3 | BrightEyes`
[01:34] <ubotu> BrightEyes`: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> oooh
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i think i mighta figured it out
[01:34] <Tm_T> dcosson: and your fstab hasnt changed?
[01:34] <dcosson> that's what i was trying to think of
[01:35] <dcosson> Tm_T:  I haven't changed it.
[01:35] <Tm_T> dcosson: if it always same sdb, go ahead and add it to fstab
[01:35] <Tm_T> dcosson: or you have another way to identify it there
[01:35] <dcosson> it should be
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> UUID?
[01:35] <Tm_T> yup, UUID will do
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> wasn't that what uuid was supposed to take care of?
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> or am i thinking something else...
[01:35] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: no idea :p
[01:36] <Tm_T> I have only my usb key and I dont even use it really
[01:36] <louis> how do you install compiz in kubuntu?
[01:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !compiz | louis
[01:37] <ubotu> louis: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:38] <ubuntu_> out of curiosity, why doesn't it come installed?
[01:38] <louis> thankyou
[01:39] <jamaur> anyone know what package I have to install to get the c function man pages?
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu_: because it still doesn't integrate as well with kde as with gnome, and because, let's face it, until hardy is released kubuntu will continue to be ubuntu's geeky unpopular slightly neurotic little sister
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> then come 8.04, she blossoms and becomes more popular than her big brother could have ever dreamed!
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> at least, that's the plan...
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> What's happening in 8.04?
[01:45] <ubuntu__> how can i resize my existing partition?  I am in the livecd now and I am trying to use qparted but the resize option is greyed out
[01:45] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: what exactly youre asking?
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> Tm_T- whatever Daisuke_Ido was saying
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: a lot of the areas where kubuntu's falling behind are being caught up
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> like printing, and...  i don't remember what else, let me get the list
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> Cool
[01:46] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: yup yup
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHardyCatchup
[01:46] <Tm_T> Dragnslcr: shortly said: progress!
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> I tried my printer again last week (still on 7.04) and it didn't work, even though I hadn't touched it in months
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> down at the bottom are the major ones
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> *user hard disk mounting*
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> I need to try it again this weekend and see if I can get it to work
[01:47] <code_x> hello everyone, i just upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 for 7.4, now i can't see to find the "berly-manager" program
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> well, it's beryl, and it'
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> s no longer there
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> because beryl no longer exists, it's part of compiz fusion now
[01:47] <stdin> !compiz | code_x
[01:47] <ubotu> code_x: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin: beat me to it
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> Ooh, improved bluetooth would be nice
[01:48]  * stdin was poised
[01:48] <code_x> thanks
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> Of course I think I've learned my lesson not to get another bluetooth keyboard/mouse
[01:48] <ubuntu__> can anyone help me with my partition question above?
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm definitely getting a bluetooth mouse for my laptop
[01:49]  * Tm_T needs bluetooth keyboard
[01:49] <Tm_T> small size thank you
[01:49] <Dragnslcr> The biggest problem is that I can't use my keyboard/mouse during boot
[01:49] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm...  qtparted won't let you resize :\
[01:49] <Dragnslcr> Which of course wouldn't be a problem for a laptop
[01:50] <ubuntu__> Daisuke_Ido: do you know of a program that can?
[01:50] <ubuntu_> Daisuke_Ido: I resized this computer's HD not an hour ago with qparted.
[01:52] <BrightEyes`> any ways for watching wmv videos in  kubuntu 7.10?
[01:52] <ubuntu__> ubuntu__: what format type was it??? it seems that my issue is that my partition is etx3
[01:52] <ubuntu__> er ext3
[01:52] <ubuntu_> it was ntfs, but 've moved ext3 with it before
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[01:53] <ubuntu_> is the partiion mounted?
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> resize ntfs with qtparted?
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> never thought i'd hear that one
[01:53] <Dragnslcr> Looks like my printer is working again.
[01:53] <ubuntu_> well I just did it
[01:53] <ubuntu__> ubuntu_:  no it is not mounted.... but the drive info does state it is busy
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ntfs isn't even writable by default
[01:54] <Angelus> can someone help me with this error please - http://rafb.net/p/LjKSFW16.html
[01:54] <ubuntu_> ubuntu__:does it have a mount point but is disabled?
[01:55] <ubuntu__> ubuntu_: how would I check?
[01:55] <Daisuke_Ido> you're...  trying to compile a kernel?
[01:55] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm guessing
[01:56] <ubuntu_> in kubuntu, K menu->system settings->advanced->disk and file systems
[01:56] <Angelus> Daisuke_Ido: i already compiled, i am recompiling it with the squashfs module
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> umm... dunno what to tell you
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> it certainly doesn't look happy
[01:57] <ubuntu_> make sure the "mount point" for the partition you're trying to move is blank and there is no "enabled" or "disabled"
[01:57] <Angelus> Daisuke_Ido: i really need squashfs so i can edit an iso livecd image
[01:58] <ubuntu__> ubuntu_: ok there is no mount point and it is not "enabled"
[01:59] <ubuntu_> then it's beyond my skill level
[01:59] <ubuntu_> sorry
[02:00] <ubuntu__> surely there must be another program other than qparted that can resize a ext3 partition?
[02:01] <ubuntu_> you could download gparted i guess
[02:01] <ubuntu_> it's a standalone livecd
[02:02] <ubuntu__> ubuntu_: hummm adept installer can not find gparted
[02:03] <ubuntu__> ubuntu_: nevermind... i found it
[02:04] <ubuntu_> yeah, it's not a part of ubuntu
[02:04] <ubuntu_> the one I'm thinking of isn't at least
[02:05] <Angelus> is there some kubuntu kernel that supports squashfs ? :S
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> !find squashfs
[02:07] <ubotu> Found: squashfs-tools, squashfs-source
[02:07] <marx2k> What would I put into my /etc/fstab to make samba network shares mount asynchronously so my system doesnt freeze when it tries to mount them and they are not available?
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> !info squashfs-tools
[02:07] <ubotu> squashfs-tools: Tool to create and append to squashfs filesystems. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.2r2-2build1 (gutsy), package size 95 kB, installed size 296 kB
[02:13] <cdxx> okay i am installing nvidia grapcs driver Version: 96.43.01 , i tried the more recent ones but it says i have to use this one.
[02:14] <cdxx> now i am at a point where it says , Unable to find kernel source files
[02:14] <cdxx> err
[02:14] <cdxx> unable to find kernel source tree fo the currently runnign kernel
[02:14] <XenThraL> need to install kernel headers
[02:14] <cdxx> how?
[02:15] <ubuntu__> ok gparted was able to resize my partition.  now how would i move my exisitng /home to the new partition and have my system realize its new location?
[02:15] <XenThraL> sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[02:15] <XenThraL> I think
[02:16]  * XenThraL scrolls up to see what the hell you're doing
[02:16] <XenThraL> oh
[02:16] <XenThraL> yeah I'd guess its just that
[02:16] <cdxx> "couldnt find package kernel-headers"
[02:17] <XenThraL> you need the -`uname -r`
[02:17] <cdxx> yea i  used it
[02:17] <cdxx> and  i just tested and `uname -r` DOES spit out my kernel version
[02:18] <XenThraL> then grab that and try to find the package that has the headers for it
[02:18] <XenThraL> and just install it
[02:20] <bruno> hola
[02:20] <bruno> coño si funciona esto
[02:20] <cdxx> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6-386
[02:20] <bruno> es que soy nuevo en linux
[02:20] <bruno> tanto como 3 dias
[02:20] <bruno> :D
[02:21] <cdxx> ok that seems to be working
[02:21] <at0m1cb0mb3r> can somebody help me with installing kubuntu on my 500gb harddrive i want to creat a partion for my home and a partion for my swap and a partion for linux but i dont know how to do that so i was wondering if you guys could help me out
[02:21] <Jucato> !es | bruno
[02:21] <ubotu> bruno: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:22] <at0m1cb0mb3r> unless somebody can help me fix my grub :]
[02:23] <ubuntu_> is linux smart enough to tell which of two swap patriotions is faster and prefer the faster one?
[02:23] <cdxx> if you want it to be yes.
[02:23] <wilson> no
[02:23] <ubuntu_> if i want it to be?
[02:24] <at0m1cb0mb3r> so im guessing nobody reads my sentence so i dont get help :[
[02:24] <at0m1cb0mb3r> [ifr0g]: hey
[02:25] <ubuntu_> atomic, it's pretty strightforward in the alternate install CD, so i imagine it should be even easier in the GUI installer
[02:26] <Jucato> ubuntu_: why 2 swap partitions?
[02:26] <BigDaddy> Evening all, Anyone here have experience with KTOrrent?
[02:26] <NickPresta> BigDaddy, what about KTorrent?
[02:27] <BigDaddy> NickPresta: for some reason it is killing my internet connection
[02:27] <andycr> why is (k)ubuntu constantly setting keyboard repeat off no matter how many times I enable it, even twice in one minute? this happens on two different computers with both gutsy and feisty
[02:27] <ubuntu_> no reason really, i was just wondering
[02:27] <NickPresta> BigDaddy, have you configured KTorrent to use the proper amount of connections and slots. etc?
[02:27] <source_> somebody can tell me the channel in spanish please?
[02:27] <NickPresta> !es | source_
[02:27] <ubotu> source_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:28] <source_> !es
[02:28] <source_> ok thx
[02:28] <BigDaddy> NickPresta: I guess not. Is there a tutorial? I am used to using uTorrent. I never had an issue like this before
[02:29] <BigDaddy> NickPresta: I know the problem is address here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+question/12694
[02:29] <BigDaddy> but it doesn't tell me the fix
[02:30] <NickPresta> BigDaddy, try http://torrentfreak.com/calculate-your-optimal-bittorrent-settings/
[02:31] <at0m1cb0mb3r> can anybody help me?
[02:31] <BigDaddy> NickPresta: reading it now. bbiab
[02:31] <Dragnslcr> at0m1cb0mb3r- there should be a step during the installation for setting up partitions
[02:32] <vbgunz_> how do I find out which version of Kubuntu I am running? I mean something like about-kubuntu (build-date, version, etc)?
[02:33] <Jucato> vbgunz_: lsb_release -a
[02:34] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Dragnslcr: yeah there is but i dont know how to set it up i dont know how much for swap how much for whatever can you just help
[02:34] <at0m1cb0mb3r> please
[02:35] <at0m1cb0mb3r> vbgunz_: in konsole i think its "konsole --version"
[02:35] <vbgunz_> Jucato: thank you. will that tell me if I am running a tribe, alpha, beta version of the Kubuntu live cd?
[02:35] <ubuntu_> for swap, set up 2x your memory
[02:35] <ubuntu_> 40mb is enough for boot
[02:35] <Jucato> vbgunz_: I can't recall. it will just say if it's still "Development branch" I think
[02:35] <at0m1cb0mb3r> ubuntu_: i have 500gb harddrive
[02:35] <ubuntu_> maybe 20gb for root, and give the rest to homes perhaps?
[02:35]  * Jucato thinks 10gb is enough for /
[02:36] <vbgunz_> Jucato: major thanks then, I think the cd I am on in another machine is final, I hope :)
[02:36] <ubuntu_> i was going to say 10gb, but come on, he has a 500gb drive.
[02:36] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Jucato: i wish it calculated the other stuff for me i just want toi make a home partion
[02:36] <vbgunz_> at0m1cb0mb3r: thanks, that told me the version of konsole, KDE and Qt but not Kubuntu ;)
[02:36] <Jucato>  /boot isn't a necessity really....
[02:37] <AmyRose> Jucato: It is if you're using a large hard drive in an old computer!
[02:37] <Jucato> true
[02:37] <Jucato> but can an old computer handle a 500gb drive? :)
[02:38] <AmyRose> haha
[02:38] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Jucato: its not old its custom built
[02:38] <AmyRose> If the Linux kernel isn't in the first 2 GB of the hard drive on this computer, Grub won't be able to find it
[02:38] <Jucato> AmyRose: ^^^^ :)
[02:38] <AmyRose> Jucato: Yeah, I'm still using my old computer :P
[02:38] <Jucato> first 8GB actually... and that doesn't always happen
[02:38] <AmyRose> Sysinfo for 'amy-pentiumtwo': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: PentiumII(Klamath) at 332 MHz (665 bogomips), , RAM: 151/154MB, 121 proc's, 6.15h up
[02:38] <AmyRose> Jucato: Not if the BIOS thinks the hard drive is 2 GB
[02:39] <Jucato> hm.... ok... :)
[02:39]  * Jucato has not answer for that...
[02:39] <at0m1cb0mb3r> nobody will walk me through this?
[02:39] <AmyRose> Yeah, I have to jumper my hard drive using the "alternate" settings, which makes the hard drive tell the BIOS it's only 2 GB
[02:39] <AmyRose> then when Linux takes over, the whole size is usable
[02:40] <ubuntu_> atomic, I would but i'm doing other things right now, sorry
[02:40] <at0m1cb0mb3r> ubuntu_: k
[02:40] <ubuntu_> i did this jsut last weekend, so i know it looks difficult when you start
[02:41] <at0m1cb0mb3r> ubuntu_: ive been running linux for 6 weeks but i feel so brand new still besides after getting it installed
[02:42] <sea4ever> O.o
[02:42] <sea4ever> This looks scary
[02:42] <sea4ever> ??gnome king
[02:43] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: you say same thing after two years ;-P
[02:43] <subtrnl> !ati
[02:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:43] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Tm_T: lol
[02:44] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Tm_T: so will you help me set it up
[02:44] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: set what up?
[02:45] <at0m1cb0mb3r> like all my partions
[02:45] <aficionado> Hi, can I upgrade to 7.1 using the desktop cd or do I have to download the alternate cd?
[02:45] <at0m1cb0mb3r> aficionado: alternate
[02:45] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: 7.10 and no, desktop cd wouldnt help in upgrade
[02:45] <Tm_T> aficionado: I mean
[02:46] <Tm_T> bah bah
[02:46] <at0m1cb0mb3r> lol
[02:46] <aficionado> crap, now I gotta wait for the alternate :-/
[02:46] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Tm_T: so will you?
[02:46] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: what about your partitions?
[02:46] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Tm_T: setting up a home partion a / partion and whatever partions i need
[02:46] <Tm_T> aficionado: you dont need cd if you have net connection
[02:47] <at0m1cb0mb3r> on a 500gb harddrive
[02:47] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: installing?
[02:47] <at0m1cb0mb3r> yes Tm_T
[02:47] <aficionado> Tm_T: eh, I need to do it on multiple computers so I don't wait for have all download everything each time
[02:47] <Tm_T> aficionado: humm, apt proxy?
[02:48] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: you need / and swap, and you propably whould like to have separate /home too
[02:48] <aficionado> Tm_T: don't have time to learn about it :)
[02:48] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Tm_T: yeah
[02:48] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Tm_T: so how much would i need on each partion
[02:48] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: 20-30 G / and 2 G swap should be enough
[02:48] <slimjimflim_> does anyone know if you can make a stereo signal into mono w/ KMix?
[02:48] <Tm_T> so rest for home then?
[02:49] <andycr> why is (k)ubuntu constantly setting keyboard repeat off no matter how many times I enable it, even twice in one minute? this happens on two different computers with both gutsy and feisty
[02:49] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Tm_T: ill take a pic of where im at and ill upload it and can you tell me what to do for each partion?
[02:49] <andycr> I think it's an x problem
[02:49] <andycr> since it happens under both kde and gnome
[02:50] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: well I can tell anyway
[02:50] <at0m1cb0mb3r> Tm_T: but im at a weird screen
[02:50] <Tm_T> at0m1cb0mb3r: there's not really else to do than just make them click click
[02:51] <slimjimflim_> or maybe that's just the wrong mixer
[02:51] <aficionado> ok, I am out of here. Thanks Tm_T and at0m1cb0mb3r!
[02:52] <kristen> Does anyone know  if it is possible that a bad upgrade (to gutsy) could have somehow broken a fundamental part of how graphics drivers work on linux?
[02:52] <slimjimflim_> nm my question, i figured it out
[02:53] <BigDaddy> NickPresta: I found a torrent and it is downloading. It usually never takes more than 5 minutes.
[02:53] <NickPresta> BigDaddy, did any of those tips help?
[02:54] <BigDaddy> NickPresta: I had some settings too high, so far it seems to be working.
[02:54] <BigDaddy> NickPresta: If I ping out on here, you'll know why
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> kristen- depends on your graphics card. I just upgraded a laptop and it set the driver in xorg.conf to i810 instead of intel
[02:54] <NickPresta> BigDaddy, heh, okay.
[02:55] <BigDaddy> While I am testing the connection, anyone here know a good place for fonts? My windows fonts don't look that great so I want to browse for some linux fonts.
[02:55] <BigDaddy> Hopefully that makes sense
[02:56] <kristen> Dragnslcr: ATI x1400. And I mean something more fundamental than the xorg.conf. For some reason glxinfo | grep OpenGL says OpenGL vendor string Mesa, when fglrxinfo reports the ATI driver. I just can't get the dang thing to work.
[02:56] <[cellfrog]> !fonts
[02:56] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:58] <BigDaddy> [cellfrog]: thanks
[03:00] <[cellfrog]> np
[03:00] <BigDaddy> Oh, another question... who here is a Kongeror user? Are the black arrows beside the navigation arrows supposed to be a history?
[03:01] <vbgunz_> are there any tools that will scan my harddrives and optimize them for performance?
[03:02] <Jucato> BigDaddy: the ones that point down?
[03:02] <BigDaddy> Jucato: yeah. They don't do anything for me
[03:02] <NickPresta> vbgunz_, you may want to check out hdparm (`man hdparm`) although I'm sure there are some sort of graphical tools available, if you prefer that.
[03:03] <Jucato> BigDaddy: on KDE, icons on toolbars like that have other option, you have to click an hold
[03:03] <Jucato> (at least on KDE 3)
[03:03] <BigDaddy> Jucato: ah. I kiept trying to right-click or ctrl+click
[03:03] <vbgunz_> NickPresta: well, I was hoping something would exist that could perhaps try all those hdpaarm tricks and ccompute the best performance for the drives if possible
[03:03] <NickPresta> vbgunz_, actually, the package `linhdd` looks like it would provide a GTK frontend to hdparm if you want to try that
[03:03] <NickPresta> vbgunz_, ah okay. I don't know of any off-hand
[03:04] <vbgunz_> well, that would be a nice program :)
[03:04] <vbgunz_> if it were reliable of course :)
[03:06] <cdxx> ok i have to reinstall my graphics driver now, do i have to delete the previous one or should I just run the install program again?
[03:06] <blendtux> wrong file
[03:07] <[ifr0g]> cdxx, it would be good to uninstall the previous one.
[03:07] <cdxx> ok
[03:07] <cdxx> how do i do that?
[03:07] <kristen> Someone suggested this to me: Check that the DRM (Direct Rendering Module, the kernel module) is loaded and has found your card. Do dmesg | grep drm. You should have several lines of info............ Returns nothing at all. Bad?
[03:07] <[ifr0g]> source or apt ?
[03:08] <[ifr0g]> deb*
[03:08] <cdxx> ummm
[03:08] <cdxx> apt
[03:08] <cdxx> nvidia-linux.x86-96*-pkg1.run
[03:09] <[ifr0g]> cdxx, then, apt-get remove --purge THEDRIVERPACKAGENAME
[03:09] <[ifr0g]> sudo before that
[03:09] <[ifr0g]> ah, why did you download the run..
[03:09] <[ifr0g]> there are already drivers for it in the repos.
[03:09] <cdxx> its what nvidia gives you off their site
[03:10] <ardchoille> cdxx: Is there a reason you're using the nvidia installer rather than your package manager for nvidia drivers?
[03:10] <cdxx> i need this legacy driver and non other will work.
[03:10] <cdxx> no reason
[03:10] <cdxx> yo know a better way please enlighten me
[03:10] <ardchoille> cdxx: You realise that you're going to have to reinstall the nvidia drivers manually everytime your kernel gets updated
[03:10] <BigDaddy> NickPresta: I'd say that the KTorrent is fixed. Thanks for the help on that
[03:11] <ardchoille> cdxx: The package manager can install the nvidia legacy driver
[03:11] <cdxx> show me how
[03:11] <[ifr0g]> cdxx,  nvidia-linux.x86-96*-pkg1.run --uninstall will remove it. but after you finish with arcade
[03:11] <[ifr0g]> ardchoille*
[03:11] <ardchoille> cdxx: Which card do you have?
[03:11] <cdxx> nvidia quadro fx 700
[03:12] <ardchoille> cdxx: Quadro FX 700 is listed for the regular driver, not the legacy driver
[03:13] <cdxx> when i try the regular diver
[03:13] <cdxx> it says it cant use it and gives me a weblink to this one
[03:13] <cdxx> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_x86_96.43.01.html
[03:13] <ardchoille> cdxx: And how did you install that driver?
[03:13] <cdxx> sudo sh NVIDIA
[03:15] <damentz> hey guys, trying kubuntu today
[03:15] <damentz> better than the previous releases so far :)
[03:15] <ardchoille> cdxx: open a terminal and type:  apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[03:15] <cdxx> --remove invalid command line
[03:15] <ardchoille> cdxx: Tell me if it's installed
[03:15] <cdxx> i installed it
[03:15] <cdxx> it said it installed completely
[03:16] <ardchoille> ok, but you installed the nvidia driver via the nvidia installer?
[03:16] <cdxx> yes
[03:16] <cdxx> and before it was don it said...
[03:16] <cdxx>  if X FAILS TO find the nvidia X driver module, please install the 'pkg-config' utility and the x.org SDK/DEVElopement package fo ryour distro and reinstall the driver.
[03:16] <[ifr0g]> damentz, yup, It blows :)
[03:16] <cdxx> i installed those
[03:16] <kristen> Does anyone know what this error means? libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable failed
[03:16] <cdxx> now im either gonna jsut run the installer again
[03:17] <ardchoille> I have no idea how to uninstall the nvidia driver if you used the nvidia installer, but I do know that you need to current driver for that card, not the legacy driver.
[03:17] <cdxx> but i want to know how to delete the current non working install
[03:17] <damentz> [ifr0g]: well, i updated via apt-get, and for some reason i don't have desktop icons anymore
[03:17] <cdxx> well
[03:17] <cdxx> why
[03:17] <[ifr0g]> kristen, where did you get that ?
[03:17] <cdxx> if i try try the current driver does it stop me and link me to this site
[03:17] <ardchoille> cdxx: because the nvidia site says you need to current driver for that card, not the legacy driver.
[03:17] <cdxx> and why did this driver work for it in solaris
[03:17] <cdxx> your wrong
[03:18] <ardchoille> cdxx: I'm not wrong, I read the nvidia webpage.
[03:18] <cdxx> nvidia is wrong
[03:18] <cdxx> therefor you are wrong
[03:18] <ardchoille> cdxx: hahaha
[03:18] <kristen> [ifr0g] glxinfo said direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) and expore LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose gave that error in it's place >_>
[03:18] <ardchoille> cdxx: You're on your own
[03:18] <[ifr0g]> damentz, right-click (dexktop) > Behavior (tab) > Show Icons on desktop (TICK)
[03:18] <[ifr0g]> kristen, What graphic card ?
[03:18] <damentz> [ifr0g]: ya, its there
[03:19] <damentz> not even any media drives are showing up
[03:19] <kristen> [ifr0g] ATI x1400
[03:19] <damentz> it may be this nvidia driver i got through envy
[03:19] <cdxx> just stfu if ur just gonna read me verbatim from the nvidia page ardchoille
[03:19] <ardchoille> !coc | cdxx
[03:19] <ubotu> cdxx: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:19] <[ifr0g]> damentz, Try creating a new user and login with it.
[03:19] <cdxx> if you dont know how to uninstall it just say so or dont say anythign at all
[03:19] <[ifr0g]> kristen, Did you install the drivers ?
[03:20] <ardchoille> cdxx: If you had installed it properly, it would be working right now.
[03:20] <kristen> [ifr0g] Yes. Many times. 8.42.3 was going molasses slow, so I reverted back to 8.40 which I am using now to try and figure out what the hell is wrong. 8.40 can't get direct rendering either, btw.
[03:20] <Romina> hi
[03:20] <damentz> [ifr0g]: ok, logging into it now
[03:21] <cdxx> pffft
[03:21] <Romina> I am using the free vmware player and downloaded a FreeBSD image
[03:21] <cdxx> ardchoille you dont knwo what you're talking about obviously so please stop
[03:21] <Romina> the config file (vmx)  has a line in it with   NAT for the network
[03:21] <Romina> so it should automatically be online
[03:21] <[ifr0g]> Any one here with an ATI graphic card who can help kristen ??
[03:21] <Romina> but I do not have an internet connection in freebsd (the guest os)
[03:21] <Romina> vmware is installed on kubuntu
[03:21] <Romina> any ideas?
[03:21] <ardchoille> cdxx: I have installed nvidia drivers on over 100 computers.. I know what I'm doing.
[03:22] <[ifr0g]> kristen, sorry, no experience with ATI.
[03:22] <damentz> [ifr0g]: no go
[03:22] <martalli> nvidia drivers can b installed several ways in ubuntu.  Please don't fight over which one is the "right" way
[03:22] <kristen> [ifr0g] S'okay, thank you for trying. :/ This has been driving me nuts for 3 days
[03:22] <damentz> kristen: it shouldn't be that slow
[03:23] <damentz> [ifr0g]: ok, so i can put items on my desktop
[03:23] <damentz> but none of the media devices are showing
[03:23] <damentz> or anything else
[03:23] <kristen> damentz: *shrug* I am running real damn slow even with 8.40 - but at least it takes 5 seconds to open a webpage, or tab in IRC, instead of the 10 - 30 sec it takes with 8.42.3 :(
[03:23] <damentz> kristen: glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled?
[03:24] <damentz> glxinfo | grep direct
[03:24] <damentz> if not, your probably using a hybrid of radeon and fglrx drivers or something
[03:24] <[ifr0g]> damentz, thats good, you can enable them at the same place above but under the device.icons tab..
[03:24] <kristen> damentz: direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[03:24] <TUXedomember> were do i unpack kernel files to?
[03:25] <damentz> kristen: if you run glxinfo by itself
[03:25] <damentz> do you see lines that say mesa or ati/amd?
[03:25] <[ifr0g]> TUXedomember, what are you trying to do ?
[03:25] <damentz> if its mesa, then fglrx didn't actually install
[03:26] <damentz> kristen: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[03:26] <damentz> i used that to get my nvidia driver installed
[03:26] <kristen> it says ati in some parts and mesa in others
[03:26] <kristen> damentz: ^^^
[03:26] <damentz> i think kano from kanotix made his script cross ubuntu and debian
[03:26] <damentz> was reading through his code, looked that way
[03:26] <miles_> yo yo wassup
[03:26] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[03:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:26] <TUXedomember> i downloaded a precompiled kernel from www.linux-live.org, cause i'm new to kernel and don't want to build the module's but i have the kernel and need to unpack it to a place but were do i put kernels?
[03:26] <cdxx> yes the installer realies one is already installed and deleted the previous one
[03:26] <cdxx> BTW
[03:27] <cdxx> realizes
[03:27] <kristen> An nvidia script would work for ATI damentz?
[03:27] <damentz> kristen: it just says nvidia
[03:27] <damentz> kristen: it has fglrx scripts too
[03:28] <kristen> damentz: Ohh it's envy... I actually used envy to roll back to 8.40... he doesn't have 8.42.3 in his repo yet. and his 8.40 is still not doing direct rendering
[03:28] <damentz> ah
[03:28] <damentz> kristen: 8.40 isn't supported on xorg 7.3
[03:28] <damentz> thats why i think
[03:28] <kristen> damentz.. then damn him for not having 8.42.3? lol :)
[03:28] <damentz> oh wait, gutsy is on xorg 7.2
[03:29] <damentz> thats odd
[03:29] <damentz> ya 8.42 is nice
[03:29] <damentz> i've already used it
[03:29] <damentz> aiglx doesn't work right though
[03:29] <damentz> it seems to be selective on what cards it wants to support
[03:29] <damentz> Sysinfo for 'damentz-kubuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon at 995 MHz (1992 bogomips), , RAM: 432/503MB, 101 proc's, 28.38min up
[03:30] <damentz> i'm on my old pc, just testing kubuntu, so far so good
[03:30] <damentz> only hitch are these device icons that don't want to show up
[03:30] <kristen> I've heard of other x1400 users who had no problem at all with 8.42 - got compiz and everything, didn't have my problems - hence why I think the upgrade to gutsy was frelled, and something needs to be fixed, like libGL.so or something... tried re-linking that but I didn't know what I was doing honestly.
[03:31] <damentz> haven't had to do taht in ages...
[03:31] <BigDaddy> OK, I found the font I want, but I seriously doubt all these people paid hundreds of dollars to use it. Anyone know where I can find AvantGarde LT?
[03:31] <[ifr0g]> TUXedomember, i think the howto on the site its self should help..
[03:31] <kristen> I dunno, all I know is that glxinfo still states mesa in there, bout half way through
[03:32] <TUXedomember> but it does not say were to put the kernel file's only the modules
[03:32] <kristen> even though fglrxinfo states it is using the driver and not mesa
[03:32] <rhythmicmayhem> !ATI
[03:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:32] <damentz> kristen: you can also add Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" to xorg.conf
[03:32] <damentz> under the device section where fglrx is
[03:32] <pieisgood4589> Haha
[03:32] <pieisgood4589> hahhhahhaaaa
[03:33] <pieisgood4589> hallo heroki
[03:33] <kristen> damentz: Believe I tried that - said that it would improve 2D performance I think? if so, that didn't work either
[03:33] <damentz> g2g
[03:33] <pieisgood4589> haha lol gtg too
[03:33] <hero> hi there
[03:33] <hero> yes, pie is good.
[03:34] <kristen> Thanks for tryin' to help damentz
[03:37] <vbgunz_> to share files on my local network, what nfs package do I need from the repos?
[03:38] <rhythmicmayhem> kristen: is it posssible that you have the Radeon driver instead of the fglrx driver?
[03:40] <kristen> rhythmicmayhem: Anything is possible I suppose. Though would fglrxinfo run if Radeon was installed? And it wouldn't be instead of, it would be in addition to, cause I've installed the ATI driver at LEAST 15 times in the past 3 days so it BETTER be there lol :)
[03:40] <kristen> Can I check if radeon is installed?
[03:40] <[ifr0g]> vbgunz_, nfs-kernel-server
[03:41] <vbgunz_> [ifr0g]: thats the server, don't I also need a client package?
[03:41] <vbgunz_> am reading up on it but don't see packages for client
[03:41] <rhythmicmayhem> kristen: try    lsmod | grep radeon     on the cli
[03:42] <[ifr0g]> vbgunz_, konqueror can access nfs shares.
[03:42] <cdxx> "THE 100.14.19 NVIDIA graphics driver will ignore this cpu"
[03:42] <kristen> rhythmicmayhem: Nothing. Did a search in Adept Manager though, and radeon returned "radeontool" installed.....
[03:43] <vbgunz_> [ifr0g]: ok, I will look into it, major thanks!
[03:43] <cdxx> the card installe din this system is supported thru the NVIDIA 96.43.xx legay driver
[03:43] <[ifr0g]> np
[03:43] <rhythmicmayhem> kristen: try    lsmod | grep fglrx     on the cli
[03:44] <cdxx> the card installe din this system is supported thru the NVIDIA 96.43.xx legay driver
[03:44] <cdxx> ardchoille was so sure of himself he pmed me talking about how many times hes installed nvidia drivers etc
[03:44] <rhythmicmayhem> kristen: I had a similar problem a couple years ago when I used Gentoo.  I had both installed and it was very confusing (still is for me I guess ;)
[03:45] <cdxx> i just went and retried the 100.14.19 one and it once again told me that i have to use th elegacy driver
[03:45] <kristen> rhythmicmayhem: fglrx                1480044  0 .. next line: agpgart                35016  2 fglrx,intel_agp
[03:45] <[ifr0g]> cdxx, simply uninstall the .run script pls
[03:45] <[ifr0g]> cdxx, after done that, do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:46] <[ifr0g]> and restart X and your done
[03:46] <curi0> Does anyone here have direct rendering functioning with an NVIDIA Geforce FX 5900XT graphics card?
[03:46] <cdxx> sorry about being a dick im getting frustrated over here.
[03:46]  * cdxx hits the bong
[03:47] <[ifr0g]> cdxx, i can understand.. :)
[03:47] <rhythmicmayhem> kristen: right driver then .. it was worth a shot ... sorry can't help
[03:47] <vbgunz_> [ifr0g]: if you don't mind me asking. what is the different between the nfs-kernel and the other two nfs-server and nfs-user-server?
[03:47] <kristen> rhythmicmayhem: S'okay, no one has been able to. Thank you for trying! I appreciate it
[03:48] <cdxx> runing  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:48] <curi0> you should check to see if direct rendering is on by glxinfo | grep rendering
[03:48] <curi0> if it's not and you need it welcome to my world!
[03:49] <[ifr0g]> vbgunz_, nfs-kernel is simply recommended over nfs-user cause it has some extra kernel features.. NEver looked into it for a long time though.
[03:49] <cdxx> OH SHNIT
[03:49] <cdxx>  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx worked
[03:49] <curi0> It usually does
[03:50] <curi0> Now see if you have direct rendering on
[03:50] <vbgunz_> [ifr0g]: thanks :)
[03:50] <curi0> if you're taking that step in order to satisfy something that has to do with 3D acceleration you should consider.
[03:51] <[ifr0g]> vbgunz_, just a sec
[03:51] <vbgunz_> [ifr0g]: am going over a link here http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing
[03:51] <[ifr0g]> vbgunz_, this might help you : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[03:51] <vbgunz_> heh :)
[03:51] <[ifr0g]> :D
[03:51] <curi0> ifr0g i love your name!
[03:51] <vbgunz_> thanks, the more the better I guess :)
[03:52] <curi0> been admiring it since i first joined this channel 2 days ago
[03:52] <cdxx> ifrog thank you so much man
[03:53] <[ifr0g]> curi0, Really :).. It took me 2 weeks to think it over..
[03:53] <[ifr0g]> cdxx, np
[03:53] <[ifr0g]> curi0, for my domain name that is, Which is currently suspended :(
[03:53] <curi0> :(
[03:53] <cdxx> [ifr0g] i have 7 TB's of media, 1.27 just high quality group rls mp3 arhcive and 2 TB of tv shows, mostly full seasons, if you want ftp access just ask
[03:54] <Tm_T> [ifr0g]: suspended?
[03:54] <curi0> [ifrog]: think you can try to help me with this direct rendering problem
[03:54] <[ifr0g]> cdxx, wow !!!
[03:54] <curi0> i'm currently scouring google too
[03:54] <curi0> been doing this since i came in an hour ago
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> welp, got the vga framebuffer back up for the tty consoles on the new kernel
[03:54] <hero> i just want the cube effect when changing virtual desktops.  how do i enable that?
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> woot
[03:54] <Tm_T> cdxx: no warez or other illegalities here thanks
[03:55] <[ifr0g]> Tm_T, Yes, the admin who supports me is low on cash :(
[03:55] <Tm_T> [ifr0g]: what you mean by suspended?
[03:55] <hero> sub[t]rnl: how'd you do that?
[03:55] <Tm_T> I see
[03:55] <cdxx> i have warez but not for share.
[03:55] <curi0> His sponsor is low!
[03:55] <hero> i noticed that with gutsy virtual terminals don't work anymore
[03:55] <[ifr0g]> Tm_T, ifroog.com
[03:55] <cdxx> dvd rips into .avis arent warez are they?
[03:55] <sub[t]rnl> hero: do you have compiz and the settings manager installed?
[03:55] <[ifr0g]> cdxx, pm :)
[03:55] <Tm_T> cdxx: as long as they stay on you and your family
[03:55] <Tm_T> cdxx: and as long as you have original dvd:s
[03:56] <hero> sub[t]rnl: ok, so i do that.  but now you've got me curious on how to get the tty consoles to work.
[03:56] <hero> and can those compiz effects work w/o using xserver-xgl?
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> hero: ati video card?
[03:56] <hero> intel
[03:57] <sub[t]rnl> yeah they work without it
[03:57] <hero> k
[03:57] <sub[t]rnl> using the intel driver?
[03:57] <curi0> Does anyone have glx direct rendering yes for their nvidia gforce fx 5900xt graphics card? I'm trying to complete this step so that I can successfully run compiz and awn.
[03:58] <hero> sub[t]rnl: now, how did you solve the tty bug?
[03:58] <sub[t]rnl> vga16fb
[03:59] <hero> this does NOT solve the problem:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13981
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> I've now got a 1024x768 resolution in my tty's
[03:59] <hero> sub[t]rnl: ok, could you help me out on how you did that?
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> your on gutsy's current kernel?
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> right?
[03:59] <hero> yep
[04:00] <sub[t]rnl> ok, start with sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[04:00] <hero> k
[04:00] <sub[t]rnl> go through there, make sure your using "fixed" fonts
[04:01] <hero> should the encoding be UTF-8?
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> yes
[04:01] <hero> k
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> show me your lspci |grep VGA real quick
[04:01] <hero> and Latin1 and Latin5?
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> yes
[04:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> Ok, I've got a bit of a problem with kopete, and this is a bit long. Basically, there have been two "empty" accounts in kopete, a Jabber "EMPTY@" account, and a MSN "empty" account.
[04:01] <hero> it has VGA for the font in the console-setup
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> ok, used fixed
[04:01] <hero> it should say fixed?
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[04:02] <hero> and size?
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> whatever you want
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> 15 or 16
[04:02] <hero> what's the standard?
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> 16
[04:02] <hero> k
[04:02] <hero> one sec for the lspci output
[04:02] <kristen> Whoo! *clicks through IRC tabs in less than a second* xD
[04:02] <hero> looks like the ttys should work on next boot, though
[04:02] <BonesolTeraDyne> After removing them, I can no longer connect. So, I used "apt-get remove --purge kopete", and removed the "kopete" directory in "~/.kde/share/apps", and reinstalled.
[04:02] <BigDaddy> Does anyone know of a tag editor that even comes close to this one? http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html
[04:03] <BonesolTeraDyne> It still has the accounts, and it still won't connect. Anyone have any idea about what's wrong with it, and why it still isn't back to defaults?
[04:04] <hero> sub[t]rnl: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> k, tx
[04:05] <hero> so it should work, then? the cube effect on virtual desktop change?
[04:05] <sub[t]rnl> we're not into that right now
[04:05] <sub[t]rnl> lets do one at a time bro
[04:05] <sub[t]rnl> but yeah, I'll get it running for you
[04:06] <hero> i think the ttys should be fine once i reboot
[04:06] <sub[t]rnl> eh?
[04:06] <sub[t]rnl> i thought you wanted to use the 1024x768 resolution by passing vga= in menu.lst
[04:07] <hero> no, i just wanted them to work, period.
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> oh
[04:07] <hero> since i upped to gutsy, when i hit ctrl-alt-f1, etc.  i just get a blinking underscore instead of a login prompt
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> well just pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:07] <hero> k
[04:08] <greeg> hi
[04:08] <sub[t]rnl> how d
[04:08] <hero> sub[t]rnl: http://pastebin.com/d2106020c
[04:09] <sub[t]rnl> ok, you see your #defoption
[04:10] <sub[t]rnl> # defoptions=quiet splash vga=791
[04:10] <greeg> i gotta bone to pick with you motherfuckers.  Why doesent mplayer play dvds properly? i get video buffer full error.  but i never got this shit when windows was installed.
[04:10] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[04:10] <greeg> and mplayer nor vlc wont play wmv smoothly
[04:10] <BonesolTeraDyne> !ohmy | greeg
[04:10] <ubotu> greeg: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:10] <hero> sub[t]rnl: yeah
[04:10] <sub[t]rnl> ok, what your doing there is passing a screen resolution that uses a framebuffer to display, the vga=791
[04:11] <BonesolTeraDyne> greeg: Do you have libdvdcss installed?
[04:11] <greeg> i havev w32codecs and installed
[04:11] <j1solutions> greeg, reinstall windows, that my advice to you
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> just take out the vga=791
[04:11] <hero> ok
[04:11] <hero> and what will that do?
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> now you will not framebuffer the console, and it will display, though its gonna be 800x600
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, that'll do it
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> save it
[04:11] <hero> the splash screen won't display in 1024x768?
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> no, thats why its going blank
[04:12] <sub[t]rnl> cause your passing that vga option
[04:12] <sub[t]rnl> now, I found a fix if you want to display the smaller resolution in terminals
[04:12] <j1solutions> hey sub, what file is that in?
[04:12] <greeg> yes libdvdcss and w32codecs are both  installed
[04:12] <sub[t]rnl> -> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:12] <j1solutions> i have the same problem with me laptop
[04:12] <hero> sub[t]rnl: don't i need to edit each entry on menu.lst, not just defoptions for this?
[04:13] <greeg> sub[t]rnl: where do i take this vga=791? whats that to that file your talking about rather.
[04:13] <greeg> err path to that file
[04:13] <sub[t]rnl> eh?
[04:13] <sub[t]rnl> hero: take it out of the kernel boot line too
[04:13] <hero> k
[04:13] <sub[t]rnl> the vga=791
[04:13] <greeg> yea
[04:14] <hero> sub[t]rnl: so the splash screen will work now, but not at 1024x768
[04:14] <sub[t]rnl> yes
[04:14] <hero> is there a way to get it to work at 1024x768?
[04:14] <sub[t]rnl> since your not telling it to boot with a framebuffer (vesab)
[04:14] <sub[t]rnl> yes there is
[04:15] <hero> that's what i'd prefer
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, exactly
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> ok, heres how you do that
[04:15] <hero> ok
[04:15] <j1solutions> hello sitaram sit
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> your going to edit menu.lst
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> # defoptions=vga=791 quiet splash locale=pl_PL
[04:15] <sub[t]rnl> put that for your defoptions that we just edited
[04:16] <hero> ok, so now you're having me put back in the vga=791 line
[04:16] <hero> as well as locale=pl_PL (poland?)
[04:16] <sub[t]rnl> yes, because theres a way to get it to work
[04:17] <sitaram> j1solutions: hello... :-)
[04:17] <hero> ok
[04:17] <sub[t]rnl> ok, next
[04:17] <hero> ready
[04:17] <sub[t]rnl> sudo update-grub
[04:18] <hero> is the comment character supposed to be there?
[04:18] <sub[t]rnl> yes
[04:18] <hero> k
[04:18] <sub[t]rnl> ok, now, edit /etc/usplash.conf
[04:19] <sub[t]rnl> and make sure it has xres=1024 yres=768
[04:19] <sub[t]rnl> in it
[04:20] <hero> they're on two separate lines, but yes
[04:20] <sub[t]rnl> ok, good
[04:20] <sub[t]rnl> now to make sure we're not blacklisted
[04:20] <sub[t]rnl> edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer
[04:21] <sub[t]rnl> make sure vga16fb and vesafb are uncommented
[04:21] <sub[t]rnl> err, commented
[04:21] <hero> *commented*?
[04:21] <sub[t]rnl> as in, don't let the kernel blacklist the framebuffers
[04:21] <sub[t]rnl> yes, commented
[04:22] <hero> did all these entries get re-written on gutsy upgrade?
[04:22] <hero> i commented the entries
[04:22] <hero> also, when i ran update-grub, it said it didn't find a splash image
[04:22] <sub[t]rnl> kinda, the kernel had some changes to it that doesn't comply with vesab
[04:22] <hero> k
[04:22] <sub[t]rnl> ok, you got them commented?
[04:22] <hero> yes
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> now to autoload the modules
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> edit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> at the end, add
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> fbcon
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> vesafb
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> vga16fb
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> save it
[04:23] <hero> done
[04:24] <sub[t]rnl> ok
[04:24] <sub[t]rnl> now check for dependencies
[04:24] <sub[t]rnl> sudo depmod -a
[04:24] <hero> (running)
[04:25] <hero> ok
[04:25] <hero> exited with no probs
[04:25] <sub[t]rnl> sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[04:25] <hero> done
[04:26] <sub[t]rnl> reboot
[04:26] <sub[t]rnl> your done
[04:26] <hero> k
[04:28] <Azzco> Hi I need some help sharing a few files with a windows XP machine. I've tried to figure out how to use samba for about 4-5 hours now
[04:28] <sub[t]rnl> ok, what kinda problems are you having?
[04:28] <Azzco> Well first of all Dolphin can't see my shared folders (the once on the same machine) Should it?
[04:29] <sub[t]rnl> yes
[04:29] <Azzco> Okay well then I've got a problem...
[04:29] <Azzco> I tried to connect from the xp machine and got prompted for a pw. Then there'd be a connection right?
[04:30] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[04:30] <Azzco> Weird...
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> well, I take it you have samba and everything installed
[04:31] <Azzco> I have no idea what I just did but it works =o
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[04:31] <Dr_willis> ive had issues with gutsy and dolphin seeing shares also
[04:31] <Azzco> Yes and I've been messing with smb.conf and added users..
[04:31] <Azzco> Dolphin can't see the share now either..
[04:31] <Dr_willis> you gave the users samba shares with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?
[04:31] <Azzco> Yes
[04:32] <sub[t]rnl> Dr_willis: odd, never seen that with my dolphin yet
[04:32] <Dr_willis> You might want to try some other samba share browser tool. like that fusesmb tool or smb4k
[04:32] <Dr_willis> sub[t]rnl,  for some odd reason the shares instantly 'time out' on me
[04:32] <sub[t]rnl> i really need to work on my fstab
[04:32]  * sub[t]rnl sighs
[04:33] <pillowpants> whats tuncfg?
[04:33] <sub[t]rnl> i've typed sudo mount -t smbfs //pantheman/mysharedfolder ~/shares way to many times
[04:33] <pillowpants> !info tuncfg
[04:33] <ubotu> Package tuncfg does not exist in gutsy
[04:33] <Dr_willis> sub[t]rnl,  thats why i use the fusesmb tool. :)
[04:34] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[04:34] <pillowpants> im trying to set up ghamachi, and its asking me for tun/tap device driver
[04:34] <pillowpants> im not sure what that is
[04:34] <Dr_willis> fusesmb Network
[04:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:34] <pillowpants> !tuncfg
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuncfg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <Dr_willis> !find tun
[04:34] <ubotu> Found: fortune-mod, fortunes-min, libtunepimp-dev, libtunepimp5, noatun (and 43 others)
[04:34] <sub[t]rnl> i move around my mount points all the time though
[04:34] <sub[t]rnl> for some reason
[04:34] <sub[t]rnl> i like to keep people guessing
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Dolphin does seem to be seeing my shares correctly now however.
[04:35] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, I don't want to hear any bad reports with dolphin
[04:35]  * sub[t]rnl plugs ears
[04:35] <pillowpants> Dr_willis: so i could install noatun and it would install tuncfg?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> pillowpants,  no idea. I recall hearing about tun befor.. some sort of networking thing i though.. NOTe it said (and 43 others) at the end
[04:35] <Dr_willis> !info noatun
[04:35] <ubotu> noatun: media player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2608 kB, installed size 6624 kB
[04:36] <Dr_willis> pillowpants,  i DOUBT if noatun is wha tyou need. :)
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !info ghamachi
[04:36] <ubotu> Package ghamachi does not exist in gutsy
[04:38] <sub[t]rnl> is it conky time yet doc?
[04:38] <sub[t]rnl> :}
[04:38] <dorkface> How does one connect to a wireless network through CLI?  I want to use that because sometimes KNetworkManager does not want to connect to the network, and I have no output to figure out why.  I was hoping perhaps a
[04:38] <dorkface> verbose flag would help
[04:39] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[04:39] <sub[t]rnl> wap_supplicant
[04:39] <sub[t]rnl> wpa*
[04:40] <posingaspopular> !wireless
[04:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:41] <sub[t]rnl> i found that setting your wi-fi interface to "Monitor" with iwconfig then just sniffing packets will show you more access points than any gui app
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> then of course, you can collect the packets, and once you have enough IV's...
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> bye bye wep
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> i don't condone any of this
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> !hack
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <dorkface> That's why I use WPA with a 64-character mostly special character passphrase :)
[04:43] <sub[t]rnl> wpa is safe
[04:45] <pillowpants> does wpa work in gutsy?
[04:46] <dorkface> yep
[04:46] <pillowpants> in wireless manager i only see wep as the key entry
[04:46] <pillowpants> i could never get it to work in feisty
[04:46] <dorkface> I'm connecting to my WPA network right now
[04:47] <dorkface> connected*
[04:47] <pillowpants> dorkface: with no major modification?
[04:47] <dorkface> nope
[04:47] <pillowpants> WPA TSK?
[04:47] <dorkface> yep
[04:47] <pillowpants> WPA2*
[04:47] <pillowpants> hmm
[04:47] <dorkface> not wpa2
[04:47] <dorkface> no aes
[04:47] <dorkface> tkp
[04:47] <pillowpants> wpa tsk is good enough
[04:47] <pillowpants> i could just never get it to work before
[05:07] <posingaspopular> are there any gui mp3 to ogg converters?
[05:07] <luser[t]> i was in here earlier talking to someone about splash screens
[05:07] <luser[t]> is that guy still here?
[05:08] <luser[t]> he had me mess with framebuffer settings
[05:09] <luser[t]> localhost modprobe: WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuff
[05:09] <luser[t]> er line 28: ignoring bad line starting with '*blacklist'
[05:09] <luser[t]> hm.  guess he's not here now :(
[05:11] <Dr_willis> !info audicity
[05:11] <ubotu> Package audicity does not exist in gutsy
[05:11] <Dr_willis> !find auda
[05:11] <ubotu> Found: audacious, audacious-crossfade, audacious-dev, audacious-plugins, audacious-plugins-dev (and 4 others)
[05:11] <Jucato> !info audacity
[05:11] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2321 kB, installed size 6832 kB
[05:11]  * luser[t] sighs
[05:11] <Jucato> Dr_willis: ^^^
[05:11] <luser[t]> i just want to get the bootsplash to work again
[05:11] <luser[t]> is there a bug report that says how?
[05:11] <luser[t]> i can't find one.
[05:12] <pillowpants> does anyone know a good console media player?
[05:12] <luser[t]> pillowpants: mpeg123
[05:13]  * pillowpants is loving the fact you can get to console with ctrl + alt + f8
[05:14] <dsmith__> so far three upgrades no problem
[05:14] <dsmith__> i did do a vmware update and it hosed my fonts for some reason
[05:14] <posingaspopular> Jucato: gui mp3 to ogg converter?
[05:15] <dsmith__> er...update to 7.10 in a vmware image that is
[05:15] <hellhound> how can i get my mouse back button to work in dolphin?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> configure it to send backspace perghaps?
[05:18] <hellhound> Dr_willis: how would i configure it though?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Good question. :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> depends on the exact mouse perhaps.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> I tend to just set the  extra buttons up in Quake/games for grenades - is about it. :)
[05:19] <hellhound> Dr_willis: it is a logitech G5 and looking on the web i found how to configure it to work with firefox.  but it does not work with any others
[05:20] <yeo_> hellhound, look for something called btnx
[05:20] <Dr_willis> hellhound,  i found the gentoo docs/forums often have good guides for some of this configuration
[05:21] <hellhound> yeo_: is it in the kubuntu packages?
[05:21] <yeo_> dunno, but i definitely know its on google ;)
[05:21] <pillowpants> when i go to console with crt + alt + fetc do all of my x programs go to sleep?
[05:22] <pillowpants> or what occurs in that process?
[05:22] <yeo_> they still run i believe
[05:22] <yeo_> you just arent viewing their GUI's via the Xserver
[05:22] <Lynoure> pillowpants: they still run.
[05:23] <yeo_> if you type top in tty1 they still take up cpu. so i guess they keep going
[05:23] <elliott541a> is there any way to stop suspending/hibernating from killing my computer?
[05:23] <pillowpants> Lynoure: yeah, i just wasnt seeing them in the forfront, so i guess they consume less
[05:23] <Dr_willis> They all stay running
[05:23] <Lynoure> elliott541a: killing in what sense?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> You could even have several X servers/sessions going.
[05:23] <pillowpants> Dr_willis: i wondered if that was possibly
[05:24] <yeo_> yeah thats cool. gnome on one and kde on another. or any combo really
[05:24] <pillowpants> Dr_willis: aha, i could go back and forth between icewm and kde!
[05:24] <pillowpants> its perfect
[05:24] <Dr_willis> pillowpants,  you could have several dozen users with their own Sessions going. : )
[05:24] <yeo_> pillowpants, when logged in at gnome or kde. switch user and from the login screen, login again
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Thers that fast-user-switching thing also.
[05:25] <elliott541a> Lynoure:  The  computer will go through the suspend/hibernate process, but the power LES never blinks or turns off, and pressing the power button won't bring it back up
[05:25] <elliott541a> I have to reboot
[05:25] <elliott541a> power LED, that is
[05:25] <elliott541a> it gets suck halfway into suspending or something
[05:26] <Lynoure> elliott541a: yes, that's a bug for many people... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134476
[05:26] <Lynoure> elliott541a: you could report your hardware and driver there
[05:27] <yeo_> Dr_willis, do you know another method for opening more than one xserver?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> yeo_,  you can spawn them with the proper command line command also.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> how many more do ya want. :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> heh.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> You could set up  where several start at boot time also.
[05:28] <yeo_> :)
[05:28] <yeo_> where would i put the script?
[05:29] <pillowpants> !plasmaaudio
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasmaaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <dorkface> !speech recognition
[05:35] <jarn> Where is the new restricted driver manager?
[05:35] <virnik> hi there
[05:37] <mike__> jarn: "system settings'
[05:37] <jarn> mike__: Where is that?
[05:37] <kristen> !compiz
[05:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:38] <mike__> 'main menu
[05:39] <jarn> mike__: I don't have that. I have Settings and System but not System Settings. Neither appear to have a Restricted Driver Manager...
[05:40] <virnik> hehe
[05:40] <virnik> but in gutsy, compiz-fusion IS enabled by default
[05:40] <[ifr0g]> jarn, ssytem settings > advanced (tab)
[05:40] <virnik> and it works flawlessly
[05:40] <Dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[05:40] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB
[05:40] <Dr_willis> I normally install  the restricted-manager package
[05:41] <mike__> virnik: not in kde
[05:41] <mike__> jarn: i have it in the main menu
[05:42] <[ifr0g]> Fresh install here.. And its not on the main menu
[05:42] <[ifr0g]> maybe for upgrades
[05:42] <mike__> install upgrades jarn
[05:43] <mike__> I also installed "synaptic'
[05:43] <jarn> mike__: I am fully updated. Is there a specific package for it?
[05:43] <mike__> 1min
[05:43] <jarn> My volume up/down buttons do not control what I want them to after my upgrade to Gutsy. I'm not sure what they control (a volume bar does appear) but it's not what they used to, that is the main system volume.
[05:44] <virnik> mike__: I am using KDE, so...
[05:44] <virnik> mike__: it was enabled by default
[05:44] <virnik> maybe cos I have updated from feisty
[05:44] <mike__> virnik: i just installed it
[05:44] <mike__> hmm
[05:44] <virnik> strange...
[05:44] <virnik> still, it is really cool
[05:44] <virnik> I am with kubuntu project from breezy
[05:45] <virnik> and it is like giant steps
[05:45] <virnik> used RH and FC before...
[05:45] <mike__> virnik: was installed in Ubuntu
[05:46] <mike__> jarn: you update from fiesty?
[05:46] <jarn> mike__: Yes.
[05:46] <mike__> hmm ok fresh is best
[05:46] <Tm_T> how its best?
[05:46] <jarn> mike__: Yeah, well, that has its own problems.
[05:46] <Jucato> posingaspopular: sorry I was out to lunch... have you tried soundkonverter?
[05:47] <mike__> jarn: Kubuntu is not quite a "rolling" release like debian
[05:48] <virnik> hehe
[05:48] <virnik> I made update too
[05:48] <virnik> and it was ok
[05:48] <mike__> virnik: compiz-fusion icon?
[05:48] <jarn> mike__: Funny, I would think that the fact that there's an official upgrade method meant that upgrading was, well, official. :P
[05:48] <virnik> only sound hotkeys messed up...but fixed them by overwriting libs from feisty's KMILO package
[05:49] <virnik> mike__: i am using compiztray
[05:49] <virnik> so do not ask me
[05:49] <virnik> and, i have used beryl before
[05:49] <virnik> so compiz was at its place
[05:49] <virnik> only beryl manager stayed
[05:49] <virnik> but not so long, i have wiped it out while I've found compiztray
[05:50] <mike__> jarn: True "in theory"
[05:51] <Dr_willis> !find compiztray
[05:51] <ubotu> Package/file compiztray does not exist in gutsy
[05:51] <[ifr0g]> !find compiz-icon
[05:52] <ubotu> Package/file compiz-icon does not exist in gutsy
[05:52] <[ifr0g]> :(
[05:52] <Dr_willis> !find compiz
[05:52] <ubotu> Found: compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (and 15 others)
[05:52] <Dr_willis> wonder if thers a way to show others.. :)
[05:53] <hellhound> i am trying to get my back button on my mouse to work in both firefox and dolphin.  i have it working in firefox perfectly but not dolphin.  i tried btnx and modmaping but i cannot figure out how to tell it send "backspace" when i am in dolphin and to send "alt-left arrow" when i am in firefox
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !info btnx
[05:54] <ubotu> Package btnx does not exist in gutsy
[05:54] <roomulo> hey, folks
[05:54] <Dr_willis> i thought backspace in firefox worked the same as 'back'
[05:55] <hellhound> i already tried btnx... it seems to only work with one program
[05:55] <roomulo> i'm trying to upgrade... but the same problem occurs all time
[05:55] <Dr_willis> change the dolphin shortcut to be the same as firefox uses
[05:55] <hellhound> Dr_willis: no backspace in firefox is page up
[05:55] <roomulo> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[05:55] <roomulo> Failed to fetch
[05:56] <roomulo> and other like this
[05:56] <roomulo> in this same repository
[05:56] <hellhound> Dr_willis: how do you change dolphin's shortcut?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> its right tehre in the settings/shortcuts menu
[05:56] <Dr_willis> same as every other kde app has. :) i think.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> 'back' set to backspace/xf86back
[05:57] <roomulo> anyone?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> wonder what xf86back is. Must be for multimedia keyboards.
[05:57] <mike__> I cannot see any tray icon,Compiz-fusion works ok
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Ive seen some other disrtos with some sort of compiz icons. in the tray
[05:58] <hellhound> Dr_willis: i see it now... but it did not work :(
[05:58] <mike__> Dr_willis: Yes I have it in "sid"
[05:58] <mike__> works well
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> fusion-icon
[05:59] <roomulo> how to upgrade to gutsy via command line?
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> !info fusion-icon
[05:59] <ubotu> Package fusion-icon does not exist in gutsy
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> meh
[05:59] <mike__> err
[06:01] <Dr_willis> hellhound,  you may need to configure the xorg.conf to have the mouse send  the button presses/set up 5+ button support.  Im thinking the config tool is seeing the other button presses as a right/left button.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> My back button on the mouse seems to be sending a 'middleclick'
[06:02] <Dr_willis> according to 'xev' at least
[06:03] <hellhound> Dr_willis: thank you... let me give it a try
[06:04] <roomulo> ...
[06:04] <jarious> help
[06:05] <jarious> i need to retrieve the full channel list
[06:05] <jarious> how can i do this?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> you mean /list
[06:06] <Dr_willis> get ready for a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG list
[06:06] <[ifr0g]> lol
[06:06] <luser[t]> when i try to use kdm, i get no theme, but a very generic-looking login (with face browser actually).  when i login, i just get an xterm and i have to type startkde & to get kde to start.  even when kde starts, i can't close that xterm or it kills the session.  any ideas?
[06:06] <[ifr0g]> Jaearess, what client ?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> luser[t],  #1 - close it with 'exit' Not clicking the close button. :)
[06:07] <mike__> How can i stop compiz-fusion/
[06:07] <Dr_willis> #2 try selecting a different session in the KDM session
[06:07] <luser[t]> it will run any other wm but kde
[06:07] <luser[t]> gnome, xfce, etc.
[06:07] <mike__> kde --replace   ,,does not work
[06:07] <[ifr0g]> mike__, kwin --replace
[06:08] <mike__> hell ok cheers
[06:08] <luser[t]> i'd like kde to automatically start when i login through kdm
[06:08] <Dr_willis> luser[t],  try  stopping kde. make a .xinitrc that just runs 'startkde' and try 'startx'
[06:08] <Dr_willis> if for some reasin startkde isent working right. Your kde configs may be messed up.
[06:08] <luser[t]> hm
[06:08] <luser[t]> so i'll have to type startx from the command prompt instead of using kdm? gdm works fine, but i'd rather not use it.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> gdm starts kde fine but kdm dosent?
[06:09] <luser[t]> yep
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Thats very odd.
[06:09] <luser[t]> weird, huh?
[06:09] <luser[t]> i know!
[06:09] <Dr_willis> try making a new user. see if it works for him
[06:09] <luser[t]> k
[06:11] <vbgunz> anyone know why my KDM login screen is smaller (not stretched, centered) than the highest possible resolution? I think it is 1024x768 (centered). It should be 1280x1024. I put Virtual 1280 1024 in my xorg.conf but that did nothing :(
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I just set up xorg.conf to only have the 1 res i want to use. :)
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Not sure how to specificially set what res kdm uses..
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I dont think Virtual is the proper setting tobe tweaking
[06:13] <vbgunz> me neither
[06:13] <Dr_willis> thats for the 'larger then the visibal screen' type desktops
[06:13]  * Jucato thinks the correct resolution would be the first resolution in the default depth
[06:14] <luser[t]> ok, didn't work
[06:14] <vbgunz> I'll check my xorg.conf again
[06:14] <luser[t]> didn't work with new user, or with .xinitrc
[06:14] <Dr_willis> luser[t],  try making the .xinitrc just start a xterm. startkde works like that? (you sort of said it did earlier, just checking)
[06:15] <luser[t]> well, when i login via kdm, all i get is a black screen with a white xterm
[06:15] <vbgunz> I'll restart x. one sec
[06:15] <luser[t]> and then i type startkde in the xterm and kde starts
[06:16] <Dr_willis> That soulds like your kdm session is actually starting somthing other then 'startkde'
[06:16] <luser[t]> but it doesn't matter if i close the xterm or type exit or hit ctrl d, when i do it ends the session
[06:16] <luser[t]> maybe it is?
[06:16] <luser[t]> i dunno
[06:16] <Dr_willis> there are several .desktop files. one for each 'desktop session'
[06:16] <Dr_willis> like gnome.desktop kde.desktop icewm.desktop and so forth
[06:16] <luser[t]> ok
[06:17] <roomulo> guys... this repository can be removed from sources.list?
[06:17] <roomulo> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/freecontrib/
[06:17] <Dr_willis> id try making a new one (copy an old one to another file) and edit it to be sure its running 'startkde'
[06:17] <luser[t]> i don't have any file like that
[06:17] <Dr_willis> luser[t],  yes you do. :) they are system files
[06:17] <luser[t]> oh
[06:17] <luser[t]> where are they located?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> locate gnome.desktop --> /usr/share/xsessions/openbox-gnome.desktop
[06:17] <Dr_willis> /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[06:18] <Dr_willis> > /usr/share/xsessions/  Looks like. :)
[06:18] <luser[t]> k
[06:18] <luser[t]> i found those files
[06:18] <Dr_willis> the kde.desktop I got is  launching       Exec=/usr/bin/startkde
[06:18] <vbgunz> I made the only available resolution 1280x1024 and the KDM login screen is still smaller than what it should be :/
[06:18] <luser[t]> so is mine
[06:18] <vbgunz> I'll try changing the login screen
[06:19] <mike__> How can I change boot gui res?
[06:19] <luser[t]> i wonder if it has something to do with upgrading from ubuntu feisty to kubuntu feisty
[06:19] <luser[t]> i'm on kubuntu gutsy now, though
[06:20] <Dr_willis> luser[t],  see whats in    cat .dmrc
[06:20] <luser[t]> (blank line)
[06:20] <luser[t]> [Desktop]
[06:20] <luser[t]> Session=kde
[06:21] <Dr_willis> well im out of ideas. :)
[06:21] <luser[t]> heh
[06:21] <luser[t]> yeah, it's weird
[06:21] <Dr_willis> other then try moving the .kde dir to some other name
[06:21] <luser[t]> i don't understand it
[06:21] <luser[t]> what would that do?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> reset kde settings back to default
[06:21] <luser[t]> hm
[06:21] <luser[t]> i'll try that
[06:22] <Dr_willis> but that was whyi said 'make a new user' earlier.. :()
[06:22] <Dr_willis> to test that
[06:22] <mikko> morning
[06:22] <puercomorado> morning?
[06:22] <[ifr0g]> Morning mikko
[06:23] <rickey> hello i have got to get this file libdvdcss2, it is in a restriited repos dose anyone have that link
[06:24] <Dr_willis> !info dvd
[06:24] <ubotu> Package dvd does not exist in gutsy
[06:24] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[06:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:24] <vbgunz> how do you cange the KDM theme?
[06:24] <vbgunz> !KDM
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[06:24] <ubotu> Found: kdm, kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme
[06:24] <Dr_willis> use the 'kdmtheme' package it has a tool for it. :)
[06:24] <[ifr0g]> !libdvdcss2
[06:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:24] <vbgunz> ok
[06:24] <wilson> http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/       dead easy to find, just looked on google
[06:24] <[ifr0g]> rickey, ^
[06:25] <[ifr0g]> rickey, what ubotu said
[06:25] <vbgunz> hopefully changing the theme works
[06:26] <vbgunz> brb
[06:27] <KingJere> Could someone please tell me where amarok keeps the xml files for podcast feeds? And if it is in /home/kingjere/.kde/share/apps/amarok which one is it?
[06:31] <mike__> I am unable to change "boot screen" resolution?
[06:31] <mike__> It is "out of range" on boot
[06:32] <elliott541a> !mp3
[06:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:34] <[ifr0g]> KingJere, you mean the streams ?
[06:36] <elliott541a> what do the buffered memory and cached memory refer to in Ksysguard?
[06:36] <KingJere> [ifr0g]: I found the mp3s but I want to find the actual xml file. basically I want to subscribe to all the feeds my wife does/
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> [ifr0g]: i'm guessing he means "podcast feeds"
[06:37] <KingJere> Well maybe not all of them ;)
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> as far as a quick way like that, i don't know, the easiest way would be to just see what they are and hunt em down
[06:38] <[ifr0g]> KingJere, They should be in the dir you said above or /tmp/ or /usr/share/apps/amarok/
[06:39] <Jucato> (not if they were added by the user, in which case ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/
[06:39] <KingJere> Jucato: I checked there, If its there I don't know which file it is and it sure isn't obvious
[06:40] <Jucato> I don't have a feed so I can't really help :)
[06:40] <Jucato> you can try asking in #amarok but they're probably sleeping...
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i do have feeds and i can't find anything
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> that's why i made the suggestion i did :)
[06:41] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: what's the name of your feed in amarok?
[06:41] <KingJere> Jucato: interestingly enought there are two files in /tmp/kde-kingjere/ called amarokryuz7a.tmp and something similar. they are binary though
[06:41] <[ifr0g]> Jucato, do a sudo kfind and you can search contents in files recursivly for a match..
[06:41] <Jucato> [ifr0g]: why me?
[06:41] <[ifr0g]> KingJere, ^^
[06:42] <[ifr0g]> sorry
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: as far as...
[06:42] <Jucato> !kdesu | [ifr0g]
[06:42] <ubotu> [ifr0g]: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> what the podcasts are?
[06:42] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: you can "grep -ir pattern *" so that you can check which file contains the pattern
[06:42] <Jucato> in which case replace pattern with a keyword
[06:43] <Jucato> KingJere: you can probably try ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc too
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> no match so far
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> but it's still going :)
[06:44] <KingJere> Jucato: No such file :(
[06:44] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: um... be sure to be in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/ when you run that command...
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i was actually just in my home
[06:45] <[ifr0g]> Another method is to use lsof to see what files amarok is opening wile playing the podcast
[06:45] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: hahah :P
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> whoopsie!
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> [ifr0g]: that doesn't do much good when it downloads beforehand
[06:47] <[ifr0g]> And the last way is to find all files that have their modified date to the latest :)
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> one match.
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> [ifr0g]: amarok updates multiple files often, that's not that reliable either
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok/collection.db
[06:48] <[ifr0g]> :D
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> that's about it.
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to go searching through the tables, feel free
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> i stand by doing it manually as the best way (you would be done by now)
[06:49] <Jucato> ok... best way to solve this.. give me a feed to subscribe to.. I can test it
[06:49] <[ifr0g]> me too
[06:49] <KingJere> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks for all the effort! But perhaps you are right.
[06:49] <Jucato> nvm.. I'll find one
[06:49] <KingJere> [ifr0g]: try http://www.lugradio.org/episodes.rss
[06:50] <Jucato> probably from http://www.twit.tv/FLOSS
[06:50] <KingJere> everyone should listen!
[06:50] <dsmith_> lspci, says I have a intel 2200bg wireless controller is this supported?
[06:50] <dsmith_> do I need windows drivers?
[06:50] <Jucato> dsmith_: no need. works out of the box
[06:50] <[ifr0g]> dsmith_, yes
[06:50] <dsmith_> hmmm, its not though
[06:50]  * Jucato has the same wireless in my laptop
[06:51] <dsmith_> so I do need win drivers?
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> you do not need win drivers.
[06:51] <dsmith_> ok
[06:51] <dsmith_> hmmz
[06:52] <[ifr0g]> dsmith_, upgrade or fresh install ?
[06:53] <rickey> now i cant get into my apt manger
[06:53] <rickey> rickey@hom-computer:~$ apt-get update
[06:53] <rickey> E: Type 'http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/' is not known on line 47 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:53] <rickey> rickey@hom-computer:~$
[06:53] <[ifr0g]> dsmith_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:53] <Jucato> rickey: it means that line 47 of /etc/apt/sources.list is wrong
[06:53] <rickey> how do i fix it
[06:54] <Jucato> rickey: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit it
[06:55] <rickey> i have no ideal what to do with that
[06:56] <Jucato> rickey: press F11 to see the line numbers, go to line 47
[06:56] <dsmith__> sorry did I miss anything?
[06:56] <Jucato> rickey: can you paste line 47 here?
[06:57] <Jucato> dsmith__: <[ifr0g]> dsmith_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:57] <dsmith__> thx man
[06:57] <Jucato> dsmith__: my ipw2200 worked out of the box
[06:57] <dewag> hello everyone
[06:58] <rickey> ok your going to hafe to start at the beginning
[06:58] <[ifr0g]> dsmith_, i dont think you need it, it gets automatically detected..
[06:58] <rickey> i no nothing about this stuff
[06:58] <Jucato> rickey: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit the file
[06:59] <dewag> hai
[06:59] <Jucato> rickey: press Alt+F2 and enter "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit the file
[06:59] <rickey> put it where
[06:59] <rickey> ok
[06:59] <dsmith__> strange is it says its detected but it wont connect
[07:00] <[ifr0g]> dsmith_, how are you connecting ?
[07:00] <dsmith__> im on another laptop
[07:00] <rickey> now how to find the 47 line
[07:01] <dsmith__> just upgraded on a zt3000 HP
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: are you trying to use knetworkmanager?
[07:01] <Jucato> rickey: press F11 to see the line numbers
[07:01] <LogicalDash> I have an AVI file with a bunch of HTML junk at the beginning that seems to be keeping me from playing it. Is there any easy way to strip out that junk?
[07:01] <dsmith__> no, under system settigns
[07:01] <rickey> ok
[07:01] <dsmith__> Daisuke_Ido: I was earlier though
[07:02] <rickey> this is the 47th line
[07:02] <Jucato> rickey: can you paste that line in here. only that line
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> check /etc/network/interfaces first, see if it's listed there
[07:02] <rickey>  http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not a deb line
[07:02] <KingJere> rickey: first, its got no "deb" at the beginning
[07:02] <rickey> do i just take it out?
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> and vlc is in the repos already.
[07:03] <Jucato> rickey: just delete it
[07:03] <rickey> ok
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> libdvdcss is in multiverse i think
[07:03] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: I think he's after the libdvdcss
[07:03] <KingJere> rickey: What guide told you to add that line if any?
[07:03] <jarn> My volume up/down buttons are not working after the upgrade to Gutsy. They are apparently adjusting SOMETHING, because a volume bar appears on the screen, but whatever it is appears to have no effect and not be able to go over 11%. I have set up the hotkeys in kmix but it still does not do what I want.
[07:04] <rickey> ok done
[07:04] <Jucato> rickey: save it.then try the "sudo apt-get update" again
[07:04] <rickey> close it and see what happens ?
[07:04] <Jucato> jarn: kinda known bug I think
[07:04] <Jucato> [14:04] <Jucato> rickey: save it.then try the "sudo apt-get update" again
[07:04] <jarn> Jucato: Oh, isi t?
[07:05] <dsmith__> Daisuke_Ido: ok I am looking in the interaces conf file
[07:06] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to use networkmanager, your card should NOT be in there (eth1, probably)
[07:06] <se7en^Of^9> does someone know how to install the  KDE4s iconset oxygen
[07:06] <rickey> i think it is ok ,let me check
[07:06] <jarn> Jucato: Ah, yep, thanks. I found the bug about it.
[07:06] <dsmith__> I do have eth0 and eth1, eth1 as the wireless
[07:06] <Jucato> se7en^Of^9: you can't use it directly on KDE3
[07:06] <[ifr0g]> jarn, Right click kmix > select master channel, change that to the proper control
[07:07] <jarn> [ifr0g]: It already is, it's a known bug in kmilo.
[07:07]  * MilesG is now officially a bachelor in computer information systems
[07:07]  * MilesG exhales cigar smoke
[07:07] <se7en^Of^9> thanks Jucato i thought so
[07:07] <rickey> ok its good again thanks guys
[07:07] <Jucato> rickey: no problem
[07:07] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i edited my wiki. would you like to take a look and give me some feedback?
[07:08] <Jucato> posingaspopular: sure! throw me the link! :)
[07:08] <dsmith__> ip address keeps coming up 169.254.5.94, which does not match the dhcp ip convention
[07:08] <posingaspopular> i will in PM so i dont spam the chan
[07:08] <dsmith__> hmmm should be 192.168.0.something
[07:09] <rickey> ok the way i got into this trouble was trying to get libdvdcss2 installed so i could watch dvd,s
[07:09] <KingJere> rickey: remember that file you just edited? open it again the same way.
[07:10] <rickey> where
[07:10] <rickey> ?
[07:10] <chipbuddy> i've got some questions about setting up dual monitors... but i'm using gnome. will i be able to get any help here?
[07:11] <Jucato> !libdvdcss2
[07:11] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:11] <Jucato> rickey: ^^^
[07:11] <[ifr0g]> chipbuddy, did you ask at #ubuntu
[07:11] <rickey> i have kubuntu 710
[07:11] <chipbuddy> yeah, but 1) there are a whole lot of people in there, so it looks like my posts are getting missed, and 2) this channel is way cooler
[07:12] <KingJere> chipbuddy: flattery will get you nowhere
[07:12] <Dr_willis> chipbuddy,  whats your video card?
[07:12] <dsmith__> lol
[07:12] <rickey> brb coffee
[07:12] <[ifr0g]> chipbuddy, what card ?
[07:12] <chipbuddy> radeon x800
[07:13] <dsmith__> copuld it be that ip6 is being used?
[07:13] <KingJere> rickey: click menu > system > console (I don't do much point and click :(
[07:13] <KingJere> rickey: click menu > system > Konsole (I don't do much point and click :(
[07:13] <KingJere> sorry
[07:14] <chipbuddy> the little tool that was included in gnome doesn't seem to be getting me anywhere. and really i want to get games running, so if i can just make the two screen stop mirroring eachother i think that would be an improvement
[07:14] <chipbuddy> how can i get 1 monitor to just be blank... like... turn it off
[07:14] <chipbuddy> aside from unplugging it
[07:16] <rickey> rickey@hom-computer:~$  http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/
[07:16] <rickey> bash: http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/: No such file or directory
[07:16] <rickey> rickey@hom-computer:~$
[07:16] <Dr_willis> if using the fglrx drivers. I think theres an ati/fglrx tool you should be using
[07:16] <rickey> didnt work
[07:17] <Dr_willis> rickey,  you dont use http:// as a COMMAND in the shell
[07:17] <mads2> hi
[07:17] <Dr_willis> that appears to me as a directory you would look at with a browser to download somthing from. :0
[07:17] <KingJere> rickey: your in a Konsole?
[07:17] <mads2> where can i change the font in the shell?
[07:17] <rickey> take the http:// out
[07:17] <KingJere> rickey: no.
[07:17] <mads2> shell as in where i go when i press ctrl + alt + f1
[07:18] <mads2> the default font there is way too big
[07:18] <mads2> in the default ubuntu install?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> mads2,  konsole has a font settings menu item. The 'console' you use the 'consolechars' command
[07:18] <KingJere> type this sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[07:18] <mads2> i dont wanna use konsole
[07:18] <mads2> i dont wanna be in xorg when handling that stuff
[07:18] <Dr_willis>  the 'default' font is set in the   /etc/console-tools/config     file
[07:18] <KingJere> rickey: then your password
[07:18] <mads2> thanks.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> thats for the 'console' - Not 'konsole' :)
[07:19] <rickey> ok it says it is done
[07:19] <KingJere> rickey: watch some dvds:)
[07:19] <rickey> i did my password
[07:19] <rickey> thanks
[07:20] <rickey>  sorry to be so much trouble
[07:20] <Dr_willis>  /usr/share/consolefonts/ - is where the dozens of consolefonts are stored
[07:20] <KingJere> rickey: there is probably a point and click way to do the same thing, but darned if I know it
[07:20] <rickey> thanks
[07:20] <KingJere> rickey: no prob
[07:21] <mads2> Dr_willis: can you recommend some good fonts?
[07:21] <mads2> i know. :]
[07:21] <KingJere> Wanna know why I love getting support in IRC? No accent :)
[07:22] <dsmith__> wow, hibernate and suspend works..
[07:22] <blizzzek> i want to connect to a win 2003 server with krdc via rdp protocol. rdp:/here.hostname.de:1 <-- does not work (server is correct), i think i have to replace 1 with something else... half a year ago i did it, but i forgot how i did it  :D any suggestions?
[07:22] <dsmith__> you dont need a port number
[07:23] <dsmith__> well you shouldn't anyway
[07:23] <virnik> can somebody help me out solving automount problem with gutsy?
[07:23] <blizzzek> dsmith__: does not work either, trying it currently
[07:23] <dsmith__> rdp:/5.61.xxx.xxx
[07:23] <dsmith__> like that
[07:23] <dsmith__> vnc, you use port numbers
[07:23] <dsmith__> typically
[07:24] <dsmith__> I had a M$ suppot vendor come in today and the fella did not have a laptop withhim
[07:24] <MilesG> is there a way to echo date into a file through a bash script?
[07:24] <blizzzek> hm... i works now... without port... but i am pretty sure, i did nothing else then try before... well, it works without por :D thanks dsmith__
[07:24] <dsmith__> I fired up the xunbuntu box and installed krdc, he was impressed
[07:24] <Thonolan> hello i use feisty fawn after a broken update to gutsy my system run but i cant use alsa or arts i have installed the recommend packets but if i try this : /proc/asound/cards i get this error :bash: /cat/proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[07:24] <MilesG> such as --> echo "the date is " + date >> myfile.txt
[07:25] <dsmith__> np
[07:25] <Dr_willis> mads2,  i tend to just use the kernel default. resetting what ubuntu 'tweaks'  they do. theres some in the package manager tool also.
[07:25] <blizzzek> thats a server of my university, they have a mixture of suses und windowses
[07:25] <dsmith__> everything seems to work on this zt3000, except wireless
[07:26] <dsmith__> I have to go back and study some more
[07:26] <dsmith__> suses
[07:26] <dsmith__> lol
[07:26] <KingJere> MilesG: echo 'date'
[07:26] <dsmith__> well I am out thx room
[07:26] <KingJere> MilesG: er wait no
[07:27] <KingJere> MilesG: just date >> text.txt
[07:27] <Thonolan> i lltry to googlebuti didnt find any solution
[07:27] <kristen> Well.... compiz is nice. :)
[07:27] <MilesG> KingJere: yea but what about if you want to accompany text with that?
[07:29] <muchanic> echo "the date is `date`" >> text.txt
[07:29] <virnik> can somebody help me out solving automount problem with gutsy?
[07:29] <muchanic> man date to see the format options
[07:29] <KingJere> MilesG: need to be on the same line?
[07:30] <MilesG> KingJere: itd be best if they were together..
[07:30] <MilesG> im writing a script to be in /etc/init.d/ i want to echo "service started " $DATE into a log file
[07:30] <Thonolan> nobody any tip ?
[07:30]  * MilesG know $DATE isnt it though
[07:31] <MilesG> if they could be next to eachother, thatd be fine
[07:31] <pillowpants> how do you get gpg to encrypt a file not leave the original laying around
[07:31] <KingJere> MilesG: echo "text" >> text.txt & date >> text.txt puts them on two different lines
[07:32] <MilesG> KingJere: that works, thanks a lot
[07:32] <rickey> Failed to find mountpoint for /dev/scd0   dose anyone know what that means?\
[07:32] <pillowpants> ie, gpg -e /file
[07:32] <KingJere> MilesG: I'm no quitter. Lets put em ont he same line
[07:32] <pillowpants> i read the man page, but i dont see any mention
[07:33] <MilesG> lol
[07:33] <rickey> wen i try to use kaffien it give that reson for not playing
[07:34] <Daisuke_Ido> rickey: your cd drive has no defined mountpoint
[07:34] <muchanic> MilesG/KingJere: use backticks: echo "blah blah `date` blah" >> file.txt
[07:34] <rickey> how do i fix that
[07:34] <KingJere> muchanic: I forgot about that!
[07:35] <KingJere> MilesG: Hes right.
[07:35] <MilesG> muchanic: ahhhhh i thought those were single quotes lol
[07:35] <MilesG> i saw that on this site im looking at too
[07:35] <MilesG> thanks a lot guys
[07:36] <rickey> brb coffee
[07:37] <KingJere> I haven't the nerve to upgrade to gutsy. What am I missing?
[07:38] <MilesG> KingJere: headache
[07:38] <KingJere> MilesG: good one.
[07:38] <rickey> Daisuke do you mind trying to help me fix my cd drive?
[07:39] <MilesG> KingJere: from my own experience, and what ive seen in here, there is trouble with sound and wireless
[07:39] <KingJere> The fact is I dont' have a good backup.
[07:39] <KingJere> No wireless here
[07:39] <Lynoure> KingJere: and with Hibernate/Suspend
[07:39] <KingJere> Lynoure: I have never had Hibernate and suspend work right.
[07:39] <Lynoure> For me (and quite many others) hibernate now hangs, suspend happens but no recovery
[07:39]  * MilesG never uses hibernate or suspend
[07:40] <Lynoure> KingJere: Hibernate worked nicely for me in Feisty
[07:40] <KingJere> Lynoure: except if I kill X and suspend from the command line
[07:40] <Lynoure> And not that FF refuses to get saved with session, not using suspend/hibernate is more annoying that it could be
[07:40] <Lynoure> s/not/now
[07:41] <KingJere> BTW I don't have kubuntu-desktop installed. I do a text system install and build from there so suspend saves me only like 8 seconds
[07:41] <rickey> Failed to find mountpoint for /dev/scd0    can anyone help me fix this please?
[07:43] <KingJere> rickey: What app gave yhou that message?
[07:44] <rickey> kaffeine
[07:44] <KingJere> rickey: still trying to watch dvds?
[07:44] <rickey> yes
[07:44] <KingJere> rickey: did kaffeine come up on its own?
[07:44] <rickey> i ant giveing up even if it takes all nigth
[07:45] <KingJere> rickey: good. I hate a quitter
[07:45] <rickey> no it was a chice
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> KingJere: everyone does
[07:45] <rickey> choice
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> that's why i still smoke :D
[07:45] <KingJere> Daisuke_Ido: thats not waht I meant
[07:45] <KingJere> :)
[07:46] <rickey> brb gota pee
[07:46] <KingJere> you folks running gutsy, whats the default app for watching dvds?
[07:47] <rickey> back
[07:48] <rickey> kafeine comes up in the choice box
[07:48] <KingJere> rickey: just a sec while I install kaffeine.
[07:49] <Jucato> kaffeine, with the proper codecs
[07:49] <rickey> it told me to get libdvdccs2
[07:49] <mike__> correct :)
[07:50] <kraut> moin
[07:50] <mike__> hmm ,Its in add/remove
[07:51] <mike__> ^^not :(
[07:51] <KingJere> rickey: under settings, do you see xine engine param?
[07:51] <rickey> yes it is
[07:51] <rickey> no i dont
[07:52] <WaltzingAlong> vlc mplayer
[07:52] <rickey> do i need to install that
[07:52] <mike__> I installed "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[07:53] <KingJere> rickey: I'm not trying to be an @$$ but are you trying to watch a legit dvd?
[07:53] <WaltzingAlong> !info mplayer
[07:53] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB
[07:53] <Jucato> mike__: we use kubuntu-restricted-extras. not ubuntu
[07:53] <rickey> yes
[07:53] <WaltzingAlong> !info vlc
[07:53] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1134 kB, installed size 3228 kB
[07:53] <rickey>  it is store broth
[07:53] <mike__> Jucato: oops
[07:54] <Jucato> :)
[07:54] <rickey> a walmart speical
[07:54] <KingJere> I don't know, but is there any way that no link was made from /dev/dvd to the right device? Others please comment
[07:54] <mike__> I want to change boot resolution?
[07:54] <mike__> kde is fine
[07:55]  * MilesG wants to upgrade to kubuntoo
[07:56] <MilesG> crackhead_25_ ?
[07:56] <Romina> re
[07:59] <kaminix> Hmm... why is my Konversation traybar thing flashing? Nothing's red...
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> private message?
[08:00] <kaminix> Nope, none
[08:00] <Daisuke_Ido> dunno
[08:00] <MilesG> kaminix: its God
[08:00] <kaminix> Mje, I don't think so
[08:01] <KingJere> kaminix: every time your taskbar flashes someone has upgraded to gutsy :)
[08:01] <kaminix> ^^
[08:01] <MilesG> God just upgraded to gutsy
[08:02] <Tm_T> ...
[08:02]  * MilesG cries
[08:02] <kaminix> Hmm... seem to flash everytime someone writes a message in my open channel...
[08:02] <KingJere> if its S.O.S. in morse they wish they didn't
[08:03] <kaminix> Nah, it's just random
[08:05] <rickey> ok i think i figured out whats wrong with playing my dvd,s
[08:05] <kaminix> Probably som haxx they added to the Konversation deb-package. if $user="alex" and $system="minipax"....
[08:05] <KingJere> rickey: share.
[08:05] <KingJere> rickey: cause i'm stumped
[08:05] <rickey>  my xine extra pugins  is not high ligthed in add and remove
[08:05] <rickey>  i cant chose it
[08:06] <rickey>  i need to fix that
[08:06] <KingJere> rickey: what menu are you in? Where do you see this?
[08:07] <rickey> add and remove programs
[08:07] <WaltzingAlong> adept manager
[08:07] <rickey> i think i need to go into apt manger and install it
[08:09] <KingJere> kaminix: check out settings> notifications
[08:10] <KingJere> kaminix: check out settings> config notifications
[08:11] <KingJere> konversatiion will tell you everything except when th coffee is ready.
[08:12] <dewag> hi all
[08:12] <KingJere> Oh well, maybe in 2.0
[08:12] <rickey> and i can smell coffee ,ill let you know about that
[08:12]  * KingJere makes feature request
[08:12] <Jucato> KingJere: you can always make a dcop script that you can plug into konvi
[08:13] <Jucato> connect kteatime and konvi...
[08:13] <KingJere> Jucato: I just knew someone would say something like that.
[08:13] <Jucato> (is there a koffeetime? :D)
[08:13]  * Jucato is listening to Butterfly by Anime on Digimon [Amarok]
[08:13] <Jucato> something like that with Amarok :)
[08:13] <KingJere> Theres an easier way. "Hey $SONSNAME is the coffee ready?!"
[08:14]  * Jucato needs to fix his collection son
[08:14] <Jucato> soon*
[08:14] <KingJere> just gotta make that an environment variable and voila!
[08:15] <slt07> Hey guys, i have just tried out kubuntu for the first time, its very nice
[08:15] <kaminix> KingJere: Thanks! :D
[08:15] <gil> alguien que hable español?
[08:15] <KingJere> kaminix: Which one was it?
[08:15] <slt07> 7.5
[08:15] <Jucato> !es | gil
[08:15] <ubotu> gil: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[08:16] <Jucato> slt07: welcome to the wonderful world of Kubuntu, Linux, and Free and Open Source Software
[08:16] <kaminix> KingJere: The one at configure notifications I think, telling it to flash when failing to connect to a server (irc.zirc.org is down). Changed settings in both though.
[08:16] <WaltzingAlong> slt07: 7.10 ?
[08:17] <KingJere> OK
[08:17] <slt07> Ye, Walt
[08:17] <Elephantman> hello :)
[08:17] <WaltzingAlong> slt07: what had you used before and what prompted you to try out kubuntu?
[08:18] <KingJere> slt07: first Linux?
[08:18] <slt07> I've lived with windows for a long time ..
[08:18] <slt07> It suxs pretty bad
[08:18] <slt07> First time on Linux
[08:19] <KingJere> slt07: my first stop with kubuntu is always www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:19] <KingJere> The one for gutsy is still in the making though
[08:20] <KingJere> give em time though. those guys do good work.
[08:23] <KingJere> night all. I'm in CST and should have been in bed a LONG time ago. Peace.
[08:29] <sebastian^> good morning folks :)
[08:41] <mike__> several packages are not available with add/remove but are no problem with ap-get ?
[08:42] <mike__> eg:lm-sensors
[08:42] <Jucato> yep. you might want to try out Adept Manager instead
[08:43] <supert0nes> add/remove is nice when you first install your system, but after that apt-get/Adept are way more usefull
[08:43] <mike__> Jucato: it need installing in 7.10?
[08:43] <Jucato> nope
[08:43] <mike__> ^l
[08:43] <Jucato> K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager
[08:43] <mike__> cheers
[08:44] <mike__> Jucato: All good :)
[08:59] <Op3r> hello how can you install skype on kubuntu gutsy?
[09:00] <Tm_T> !skype
[09:00] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:00] <Op3r> thanks
[09:00] <Tm_T> Op3r: hmm, like to change your realname?
[09:03] <Op3r> Oh sorry
[09:04] <mike__> http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/
[09:04] <Op3r> yep downloading it now
[09:36] <slt07> Hey , i've just downloaded CS LAN 1.6.exe .. Can i install it on Kubuntu 7.04?
[09:39] <needles> what does "phy0->rt2x00pci_write_tx_data: Error - Arrived at non-free entry in the non-full queue 1." mean?
[09:39] <needles> its flooding my console
[09:43] <Arandel[at-work]> Guys my bottom pannel has gone, how do i restore it?
[09:43] <mike__> Arandel[at-work]: during update/after
[09:44] <mike__> ?
[09:44] <Arandel[at-work]> after
[09:44] <Arandel[at-work]> I was checking some settings
[09:44] <Arandel[at-work]> everything was ok
[09:44] <Arandel[at-work]> and suddenly
[09:44] <Arandel[at-work]> it has gone...
[09:44] <mike__> ok common prob ,Can you not "right click" and add?\
[09:45] <mike__> oh maybe not,,,You have no panels at all ,,hmm
[09:45] <Arandel[at-work]> when kubuntu loads it flashes and disapperas
[09:45] <Arandel[at-work]> *disappears
[09:45] <Arandel[at-work]> by the way i configured it so it would hide automatically
[09:45] <Arandel[at-work]> it worked...
[09:46] <Arandel[at-work]> but now it doesn't reappear
[09:46] <Arandel[at-work]> how do I launch system settings?
[09:46] <Arandel[at-work]> what is the command?
[09:46] <mike__> run command,,system settings
[09:46] <DeadJones> i used sudo apt-get -f install after the gui upgrade stalled out twice. i thought i was screwed. but the -f install seems to have completed the update.  not in any real hurry to reboot to find out but im sure it works :p
[09:47] <DeadJones> arandel try: ps x         in a console
[09:48] <DeadJones> look for that prog listed .. if u see it, take the pid # and do a kill -9 thatnumber
[09:48] <DeadJones> then try running the prog again
[09:48] <Arandel[at-work]> what "it"?
[09:48] <DeadJones> its prolly stalled or hung
[09:48] <DeadJones> oh wait. sorry, only read the last part. didnt see the whole thing :p
[09:48] <Arandel[at-work]> )
[09:49] <Arandel[at-work]> hmm
[09:49] <Arandel[at-work]> lot's of kdeinit stuff
[09:49] <Arandel[at-work]> may be it really stalled somehow?
[09:49] <DeadJones> did u just update to gutsy?
[09:49] <Arandel[at-work]> kinda
[09:49] <DeadJones> gui?
[09:50] <Arandel[at-work]> yep
[09:50] <DeadJones> did it work or stall out?
[09:50] <Arandel[at-work]> it worked
[09:50] <Arandel[at-work]> it seems it worked before restart'
[09:50] <Arandel[at-work]> )
[09:50] <DeadJones> oh, so ur the one.  i heard it worked for someone
[09:50] <Arandel[at-work]> so what should I do? xD
[09:50] <mike__> gutsy is better with the updates
[09:50] <DeadJones> u try logout?
[09:50] <DeadJones> alt+ctrl+bkspce
[09:51] <gary_inNYC> is it possible to share a mounted ntfs partition over a LAN in gutsy even though the partition was created and owned by XP?  i dual boot
[09:51] <Arandel[at-work]> ok i will
[09:51] <Arandel[at-work]> )
[09:51] <DeadJones> sort-of possible to share that ntfs partition but nix has some issues in write on it. in the past its been read only
[09:53] <DeadJones> all working now arandel?
[09:53] <Arandel[at-work]> hmm no
[09:53] <Arandel[at-work]> unfortunately
[09:53] <DeadJones> mouseover doesnt bring it back?
[09:53] <Arandel[at-work]> nope
[09:53] <DeadJones> oh. ur screwed then :p
[09:53] <gary_inNYC> i see, because i'm having a problem sharing it altogether.  i can easily share any folder in my home directory, but not so with any ntfs mount... it'll put me on a repeat login if i try to access it on a win machine
[09:53] <Arandel[at-work]> thx )
[09:53] <DeadJones> nah, dunno. im sure there's some trick to bring it up
[09:54] <needles> Arandel[at-work] : do you mean kicker is messing up?
[09:54] <Arandel[at-work]> kicker?
[09:54] <needles> kicking is the panel
[09:54] <Arandel[at-work]> yep kinda
[09:54] <needles> Arandel[at-work] : run kicker in a terminal
[09:54] <DeadJones> his kicker disappeared
[09:55] <Arandel[at-work]> ERROR: kicker is allready running
[09:55] <needles> killall kicker
[09:55] <needles> then run kicker again
[09:55] <Arandel[at-work]> shit it appeared and disappeared )
[09:55] <needles> run top
[09:55] <needles> how much resources is it taking up?
[09:55] <DeadJones> too bad 'killall wife' or 'killall boss' dont work
[09:56] <needles> DeadJones : i wish i could sudo apt-get install girlfriend
[09:56] <Arandel[at-work]> well not much
[09:56] <DeadJones> woohoo. that'd be a nice one
[09:56] <Arandel[at-work]> how do I launch system settings?
[09:56] <DeadJones> heh, ive just managed to crash konq and nautilus
[09:56] <needles> Arandel[at-work] : uh, im not sure
[09:56] <Arandel[at-work]> I think I should just configure so it doesnot automatically hide
[09:57] <DeadJones> now dolphin crashed. i really need a restart. but im terrified
[09:57] <DeadJones> with my absolute screwed luck, i'll be in reboot hell for amonth
[09:58] <Arandel[at-work]> by the way
[09:58] <Arandel[at-work]> when I launch kicker
[09:58] <Arandel[at-work]> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158
[09:58] <Arandel[at-work]>   Major opcode:   146
[09:58] <Arandel[at-work]>    Minor opcode:   3
[09:59] <Arandel[at-work]>    Resource id:    0x0
[09:59] <needles> Arandel[at-work] : thats somewhat common
[09:59] <Arandel[at-work]> Failed to open device
[09:59] <Arandel[at-work]> so? )
[09:59] <needles> you can just ignore it
[09:59] <Arandel[at-work]> ah damn
[09:59] <needles> i get 155 error alot
[09:59] <needles> its just driver this or that
[09:59] <DeadJones> nearly everything gives a failed notice but still runs
[09:59] <needles> Arandel[at-work] : type konqeror into the terminal and google the problem
[09:59] <needles> bound to have happended before
[10:00] <Arandel[at-work]> damn just have to find out command for system settnigs )
[10:00] <DeadJones> when searching for it, use common phrases .. u get better results
[10:00] <hachka> yop
[10:00] <DeadJones> like 'kicker disappeared'
[10:02] <Arandel[at-work]> Oh yes!
[10:02] <Arandel[at-work]> )
[10:02] <Arandel[at-work]> command is kcontrol
[10:02] <mike__> crashes hers
[10:02] <Arandel[at-work]> there I just set the pannel to do not hide
[10:02] <mike__> here
[10:03] <needles> kde-systemsettings
[10:03] <needles> oh wait, never mind that
[10:03] <Arandel[at-work]> ))
[10:03] <needles> Arandel[at-work] : ha, i suspected that was the problem
[10:03] <needles> set to hide
[10:04] <needles> im loving going back and forth between console and x
[10:04] <mike__> needles: set to hide?
[10:05] <mike__> i cannot get it going?
[10:05] <needles> ctrl + alt + f1 > f8
[10:05] <needles> mike__ : its just set to hide or something along those lines, maybe by accident
[10:06] <mike__> needles: Yes because "system settings' is limited!
[10:08] <needles> mike__ : what do you mean limited?
[10:12] <pparker> hi here
[10:12] <needles> pparker : hello
[10:12] <pparker> i'm searching for help running kde4 on gutsy
[10:12] <needles> !kde4
[10:12] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[10:12] <pparker> i've followed instructions but it don't start
[10:13] <needles> what is it telling you
[10:13] <pparker> with xephyr it's very slow , lot of debug messages
[10:14] <pparker> with kdm it logins but nothing happears
[10:15] <needles> pparker : i dont know what to say, ive been wanting to upgrade to kde4, but im waiting for it to release officially
[10:16] <pparker> needles: beta2 was very bugie but works
[10:17] <pparker> livecd is amazing
[10:17] <pparker> and i want start using it now
 with xephyr it's very slow , lot of debug messages <--- kde4 packages are built with full debug enabled
[10:19] <pparker> anyone successfully using kde 4 packages here ?
[10:20] <mike__> not yet
[10:20] <pparker> another question related to grub
[10:21] <mike__> ok
[10:21] <pparker> it works but i don't see what is underlighted
[10:22] <pparker> how to change underlight color to white (for now it's black)
[10:22] <Op3r> Does kubuntu really need to gorge up the memory? I mean I only have 512 mb of memory :(
[10:22] <Jucato> Op3r: what do you mean?
[10:22] <Op3r> I mean this Mem:    450300k total,   442076k used,     8224k free,     7460k buffers
[10:22] <Op3r> :(
[10:23] <Jucato> Op3r: K Menu -> System -> Kinfocenter then click on Memory
[10:23] <needles> is it possible to watch movies in the console?
[10:23] <needles> and/or see images?
[10:24] <Jucato> if you see Application Data (red) overflowing the Physical memory, then something's terribly wrong
[10:24] <Op3r> Yes
[10:24] <Op3r> I think somebody actually did that
[10:24] <Op3r> although its on ascii
[10:24] <Jucato> yeah, ascii art
[10:25] <Op3r> like the application data took up 70%
[10:25] <needles> Jucato : i heard you can do it with mplayer and fb support
[10:25] <needles> how would i do that in kubuntu?
[10:25] <Jucato> Op3r: Linux handles RAM a bit differently than Windows... what you see as memory being used might not actually be for Applications
[10:25] <Jucato> needles: that I don't know
[10:25] <Jucato> !ram | Op3r
[10:25] <ubotu> Op3r: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[10:25] <Jucato> Op3r: have you checked kinfocenter?
[10:25] <needles> Op3r : do you have any swap enabled?
[10:26] <Op3r> Yes I am checking
[10:26] <Op3r> And yes I have swap enabled
[10:26] <Jucato> is everything slow?
[10:26] <Op3r> Nope
[10:26] <Op3r> :(
[10:26] <Op3r> errr
[10:26] <needles> i have a swap partition half the size of my ram
[10:26] <Op3r> Im just being oc on the memory being used
[10:26] <Op3r> my swap was like 1.2gb
[10:27] <Op3r> no its 1.04 gb rather
[10:28] <Jucato> Op3r: basically, Linux makes wise and good use of your RAM to make your computer run in the most efficient way possible
[10:28] <pparker> i mean grub is working,i see menu, but i can't see what i select because select color is black
[10:28] <Jucato> Op3r: just because you see all your RAM being used, doesn't mean applications are using it all
[10:29] <Op3r> Yep I understand
[10:29] <Jucato> most of it is used by Disk Cache
[10:30] <Op3r> cos I have 15 tabs opened in firefox kopete and skype is opened I also have xmms running plus 3 konsole :(
[10:30] <Jucato> (well firefox would most probably be the culprit)
[10:30] <Op3r> Yes
[10:30] <Op3r> I think it is
[10:31] <Jucato> 3 konsoles?
[10:31] <Op3r> yep terminal
[10:31] <Jucato> why?
[10:31] <Jucato> why 3 separate konsoles/
[10:31] <Op3r> For my servers
[10:31] <Op3r> Like 2 tabs opened each
[10:31] <Op3r> Im using it to ssh to my servers
[10:31] <Jucato> hm... versus 6 tabs in one window? :)
[10:32] <Op3r> Yep
[10:32] <Jucato> oh well... your call :)
[10:32] <Op3r> that way I can just glance at them 3 at the same time
[10:32] <Jucato> you might want to take a look into Yakuake too
[10:32] <Op3r> :D
[10:32] <Jucato> !info yakuake
[10:32] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[10:33] <Op3r> ok
[10:33] <Op3r> doing it now
[10:33] <Op3r> :D
[10:33] <JohnFlux> needles:  mplayer -vo fb  file.avi
[10:33] <Jucato> once installed, run it, and press F12
[10:33] <JohnFlux> or
[10:33] <JohnFlux> needles:  mplayer -vo aa  file.avi
[10:33] <JohnFlux> or: needles:  mplayer -vo caa  file.avi
[10:33] <needles_> JohnFlux : thats it?
[10:33] <Jucato> JohnFlux!!! (meow)
[10:33] <JohnFlux> needles: just by default running:  mplayer file.avi      it should work
[10:34] <Op3r> Jucato, do you know whats the thing called like the dock on os x?
[10:34] <Op3r> like an app launcher?
[10:34] <needles_> JohnFlux : im testing it immeadiately
[10:34] <Jucato> Op3r: kooldock? kxdocker (no longer maintained and packaged)? kiba-dock?
[10:35] <Op3r> whats a better one?
[10:35] <Jucato> Op3r: btw, Katapult,  a sort of Quicksilver clone, is installed and enabled by default (Press ALt=Space)
[10:35] <Jucato> bah I can't type!
[10:35] <Op3r> yay
[10:35] <Op3r> nope
[10:35] <JohnFlux> Jucato: http://bp2.blogger.com/_uykUGdiPttw/RyB1aBF8OFI/AAAAAAAAAHI/4z3vDjLBDRQ/s1600-h/plasma5.png
[10:35] <Jucato> yeah I know what the dock is.. but I can't say which is the better one.. :P
[10:35] <JohnFlux> Jucato: what do you think of the process list?
[10:36] <JohnFlux> Jucato: I don't like the horizontal colors yet
[10:36] <Jucato> loading... taking a long time... connection sucks ;(
[10:36] <Jucato> kool! (except for the alternate background color in lists :P)
[10:37] <Jucato> JohnFlux: btw, did you remove the Tree view option?
[10:37] <Jucato> just wondering... I only found out about that a few weeks ago :)
[10:37] <Jucato> I mean about that feature in the Process Table
[10:37] <luigi_> aiuto non entro in hotmail con konqueror e moxilla
[10:37] <Jucato> !it | luigi_
[10:37] <ubotu> luigi_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:38] <JohnFlux> Jucato: no it's in that drop down list on the top right
[10:38] <Jucato> ooooh :)
[10:39] <JohnFlux> Jucato: I think the bright green tooltip will also be toned down by the artist guys :-D
[10:40] <Jucato> yeah.. it's too bright.. but I love that there's a tooltip that explains that now :)
[10:40] <Jucato> JohnFlux: you rock! :)
[10:40] <JohnFlux> Jucato: suggestions? :)
[10:40] <Jucato> (now have you decided if it's going to be Keep above others or not?)
[10:41] <Jucato> JohnFlux: the only comment isn't really for ksysguard but for the yucky yellow backgroud color :P
[10:41] <JohnFlux> Jucato: I'm sure that will be changed
[10:41] <needles> JohnFlux : it doesnt seem to be working, just a bunch of dots dance acroos my screen
[10:41] <Jucato> I hope so too :)
[10:41] <JohnFlux> Jucato: The KeepAbove is on by default now
[10:41] <Jucato> ah...
[10:41] <JohnFlux> Jucato: but if the user changes it, it remembers it
[10:42] <Jucato> kool! :)
[10:42] <JohnFlux> Jucato: so you just right click the window title, untick keep above, and that's it
[10:42] <Jucato> btw, last time I tried it, Ctrl+Esc calls it, and it can be banished by plain Esc now right?
[10:42]  * Jucato wonders if he was dreaming
[10:42]  * JohnFlux checks
[10:43] <needles> JohnFlux : all I had to install was mplayer, with no other configuring to watch it in console?
[10:43] <JohnFlux> Jucato: yes, Esc closes it
[10:43] <Jucato> woot! :)
[10:43] <needles> no "fb" configuring like ive heard about elsewhere?
[10:43] <JohnFlux> needles: what sort of dots dance across the screen?
[10:44] <tds> ctrl+alt+esc also closes a certain window you click on
[10:44] <Jucato> tds: we know :)
[10:44] <ws> can someone help me with vmware server on kubuntu... which possibilities do i have to access the linux filesystem from a vmware windows xp image?
[10:44] <Jucato> we were discussing the ksysguard process table in kde4
[10:44] <JohnFlux> needles: ah sorry it's   mplayer -vo fbdev  file.avi
[10:44] <tds> Jucato, i just found out today about it
[10:44] <Jucato> tds: only in KDE :)
[10:45] <needles> JohnFlux : they look to be different text characters
[10:45] <Jucato> (you have to manually run xkill in GNOME or map it to a keyboard shortcut)
[10:45] <tds> did any of you comment on Digg.com about the 10 ubuntu things?
[10:45] <luigi_> i cant access hotmail whit konqueror and firefox
[10:46] <tds> luigi_, are you running moblock?
[10:46] <JohnFlux> needles: when using fbdev?
[10:47] <luigi_> moblock?
[10:47] <needles> JohnFlux : its telling me i cant open /dev/fb0 and a few other errors
[10:47] <tds> luigi_, if you don't know, then you aren't
[10:47] <JohnFlux> tds: I added a comment to the first post about ksysguard :-D
[10:47] <needles> im checking the man page, but still eager to see it work
[10:47] <JohnFlux> needles: hmm
[10:47] <tds> luigi_, moblock is like peergaurdian. it blocks MS and other co's
[10:47] <JohnFlux> needles: what graphics card?
[10:48] <luigi_> how can i see if i have moblock??
[10:48] <needles> JohnFlux : tnt2 model 64
[10:48] <needles> and older card
[10:48] <needles> an*
[10:48] <tds> JohnFlux, I thought your name seemed familiar. you commented on my post about ksysguard not taking priority over other apps
[10:48] <needles> archaic even
[10:49] <tds> luigi_, you have to install it from the repo's so chances are, you're not if you don't know
[10:49] <ws>  can someone help me with vmware server on kubuntu... which possibilities do i have to access the linux filesystem from a vmware windows xp image?
[10:49] <JohnFlux> tds: I implemented it last night :P
[10:49] <JohnFlux> tds: in response to your message
[10:49] <tds> JohnFlux, cool, looking forward to KDE4
[10:50] <tds> JohnFlux, will it preside over games and everything or will that just screw something up? i know MS can't make it like that or they haven't on XP
[10:52] <luigi_> i don t have moblock on my pc
[10:52] <luigi_> i have to install it?
[10:52] <tds> luigi_, do you have anything like ad-block or no-script?
[10:53] <tds> luigi_, no, don't install it unless you need it
[10:53] <Thylio> Is it possible to play Xvid movies in kubuntu?
[10:53] <luigi_> no i haven t
[10:53] <JohnFlux> tds: I tested with one full screen app, and it came on top of that
[10:54] <tds> Thylio, yes, it's no problem to play them
[10:54] <luigi_> i have ip-tables but is not configureted
[10:54] <JohnFlux> tds: hmm, one sec
[10:54] <Jucato> Thylio: yes. just install kubuntu-restricted-extras and you can play them
[10:54] <Jucato> (or libxine1-ffmpeg if you want to be specific)
[10:54] <Thylio> Okay;)    Do VLC vork? When i have install codecs?
[10:55] <Jucato> even kaffeine will work
[10:55] <tds> Thylio, as far as I know, VLC has them built in, i could be wrong
[10:56] <luigi_> so whot can i do??
[10:56] <tds> JohnFlux, I assume the same could be implemented with the alsa mixer, right? I have to manually control the volume when in full screen like games
[10:57] <tds> luigi_, have you checked router settings?
[10:57] <vanger> hello
[10:57] <luigi_> no
[10:57] <vanger> have a proplem... please help
[10:57] <tds> luigi_, have a firewall?
[10:58] <luigi_> no
[10:58] <tds> luigi_, can you ping www.microsoft.com?
[10:58] <vanger> please, HELP!!!@
[10:58] <luigi_> yes
[10:59] <JohnFlux> tds: do you have a shortcut or something to show it?
[11:00] <tds> luigi_, i guess if you can access MS site, it wouldn't be a firewall or something
[11:00] <ben_> microsoft blocks pings
[11:00] <ben_> try google
[11:00] <luigi_> i haven t firewall
[11:00] <tds> luigi_, have you installed flash for firefox? i'm not sure it's dependent on that though as i don't use hotmail
[11:00] <luigi_> i have kubuntu 7.10
[11:00] <ben_> Microsoft sites don't respond to pings
[11:00] <tds> JohnFlux, yes, i have a multimedia keyboard with a volume dial
[11:01] <needles> JohnFlux : any other pointers, the man page is turning me up empty
[11:01] <JohnFlux> tds: ah
[11:01] <tds> JohnFlux, for ksysgaurd, just ctrl+esc
[11:01] <luigi_> yes i have install flash but in one site i can t see the web cam
[11:01] <JohnFlux> needles: did you tell me what video card you haev?
[11:01] <JohnFlux> oh tnt
[11:02] <JohnFlux> needles: modprobe rivafb  maybe?
[11:02] <tds> luigi_, not sure what to tell you. it works fine in windows?
[11:02] <needles> JohnFlux : tnt2 model 64, yeah
[11:03] <luigi_> yes in windows if works
[11:03] <luigi_> it works
[11:03] <JohnFlux> needles: try   mplayer -vo vesa file.avi
[11:04] <needles> JohnFlux : no luck on that one
[11:04] <needles> the man page will turn me up something
[11:05] <JohnFlux> needles: does modprobe  rivafb    work?
[11:05] <JohnFlux> needles and then using -vo fbdev
[11:06] <tds> luigi_, what kind of message do you get in firefox when going there?
[11:07] <tds> luigi_, if you're using a wireless router, might need to change the mtu
[11:07] <mike__> How can I place 'trash"' on the desktop?
[11:07] <luigi_> when i access in www.hotmail.com whit mozilla i insert my login e password of hotmail, after i can t see my e mail
[11:08] <needles> JohnFlux : modprobe didnt seem to do anything
[11:08] <luigi_> mtu??
[11:08] <JohnFlux> needles: and mplayer -vo fbdev  still doesn't work?
[11:08] <needles> JohnFlux : no, turns up errors
[11:08] <tds> luigi_, got popups enabled, java enabled, etc?
[11:09] <luigi_> yes
[11:10] <Ace2016> Anyone know a media player with visualisations i can run full screen?
[11:10] <needles> Ace2016 : audacious
[11:10] <Jucato> amarok w/ amarok fs?
[11:10] <needles> Ace2016 : or amorak itself
[11:11] <Ace2016> i didn't know that amarok did full screen visualisations, i thought it only had the little scope like thing at the bottom
[11:11] <tds> luigi_, all i can tell you is google, "can't access hotmail"
[11:11] <dc2447> anyone having any issues with the kde panel locking up since the upgrade to 7.10 / 3.5.8?
[11:11] <needles> dc2447 : there was someone complaining about it earlier
[11:12] <mike__> kcontrol will only run from konsole
[11:12] <dc2447> needles: Didn't think it was just me :(  Gutted
[11:12] <mike__> not "run command"
[11:13] <mike__> dc2447: fresh install is best
[11:16] <dc2447> mike__: rather than upgrade?  Who can afford to blow away their workstation?
[11:21] <mike__> dc2447: Kubuntu it not a true "rolling release" without probs like Debian
[11:22] <mike__> Save /home and install /
[11:24] <tds> dc2447, but what I like about it is it has more features.
[11:25] <tds> it's more fun being on the edge of newer software and ideals
[11:25] <dc2447> tds: - what has more features?
[11:25] <dc2447>  mike__; this is the first time I have ever had a problem like this
[11:25] <Op3r>   Yay
[11:25] <tds> dc2447, the newer releases
[11:26] <Op3r> does anyone have a suggested theme to use? Like a very cool one?
[11:26] <dc2447> tds: that was why I upgraded
[11:28] <tds> dc2447, yep, without people like us who try out the newer stuff, there'd be no stable releases. i can't stand the Debian or other distro elitism saying their distro is more stable
[11:29] <vbgunz_> anyone know how to make middle click in konqueror (except for closing tabs) do nothing?
[11:29] <vbgunz_> I am really tired of middle clicking and missing and leaving the page on some behaviour I still have no idea what
[11:29] <vbgunz_> hmmm, I got it
[11:29] <Op3r> if you really want a stable system I think its safe to say it really depends on the user
[11:29] <vbgunz_> it appears the shortcut 'shift+insert' is mapped to middle click
[11:30] <werty> if i have kde & ubuntu together will i have to install sometimes twice a programme?
[11:30] <Op3r> werty, it should be detected by both
[11:31] <werty> so for example if i install it on gnome i will also have on kde the same time...
[11:31] <dc2447>  tds: Gutsy isn't newer stuff  - it's the latest release - it isn't a beta or alpha - it should be stable like the other releases - I'm sure this problem is resolveable
[11:32] <TimS> Is there a command line image resizer, similar to mencoder for videos?
[11:33] <tds> TimS, why command line when you can use a gui? you want more commands to memorize?
[11:33] <TimS> tds quicker? Easier?
[11:33] <needles> what dir is the video card kept in?
[11:33] <dc2447> TimS: netpbm or imagemagic
[11:34] <TimS> Thanks :D
[11:34] <needles> under /dev/what
[11:34] <needles> ?*
[11:35] <tds> TimS, that's dependent on your memory. i don't like using it when possible
[11:35] <TimS> True
[11:35] <tds> needles, /dev/video0, i think
[11:36] <TimS> Is there a image resizer that will easily resize batches of files?
[11:37] <werty> sorry
[11:37] <dc2447> TimS: something like this - for image in `find . -type f -name \*.png ; do  convert $image -resize 50% image_resized.png ; done
[11:38] <TimS> Thanks, is that with Imagemagick
[11:39] <dc2447> TimS: yes
[11:40] <TimS> dc2447: When I run that I get
[11:40] <TimS> >
[11:42] <emilsedgh> is the hsf conexant driver ready for gutsy?
[11:43] <dc2447> sorry tim there is a typo -  for image in `find . -type f -name \*.png` ; do  convert $image -resize 50% image_resized.png ; done
[11:44] <TimS> Thank :D
[11:44] <dc2447> NP
[11:45] <TimS> Wont all pictures come out as the same name?
[11:46] <dc2447> ooops for image in `find . -type f -name \*.png` ; do  convert $image -resize 50% $image_resized.png ; done
[11:47] <TimS> Haha :P
[11:47] <TimS> Thanks.
[11:47] <TimS> for image in `find . -type f -name \*.jpg` ; do  convert $image -resize 320x240 $image_resized.jpg ; done
[11:47] <dc2447> You are rocking now
[11:47] <TimS> Can I put them in a folder?
[11:47] <TimS> convert/$image ?
[11:49] <dc2447> yes - for image in `find . -type f -name \*.png` ; do  convert $image -resize 50% $image_resized.png ; mv $image_resized.png convert/; done
[11:50] <azuk> just make sure your image names don't have spaces in them if you use that
[11:50] <TimS> Oh thankyou :D
[11:51] <ksivaji> anyone here have problem wiht "system setting"  ?
[11:52] <poison--> can i add more space from other partition to the partition i have with gutsy
[11:52] <poison--> ?
[11:52] <poison--> !partition
[11:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:53] <TimS> dc2447: mv: cannot stat `.jpg': No such file or directory
[11:56] <Op3r> how can you enable compiz-fusion?
[11:56] <dc2447> TimS: try: for image in `find . -type f -name \*.png` ; do  convert $image -resize 50% ${image}_resized.png ; mv ${image}_resized.png convert/; done
[11:58] <cuco> whos idea was it to use dolphin as the default filesystem browser on 7.10?
[11:59] <JohnFlux> gotta love ppl who ask a question and they stay for less than 1 minute
[12:00] <Op3r> cuco, im also wanting to know the answer for that and curse the one who suggested it
[12:00] <TimS> dc2447: I know what the problem is, its converting some that are in folders, and there isnt a convert/ in that folder
[12:00] <cuco> i actually think it is a great idea. "huge balls"
[12:01] <Op3r> I hate it
[12:01] <cuco> get used to it, it will be part of kde4
[12:02] <Op3r> yeah when I want to upgrade that is
[12:02] <Op3r> but why confuse the matter?
[12:02] <cuco> well, IMHO the two panels implementation is better then Konqueror's one
[12:03] <werty> problem every time i run firestarter he runs for a while but after a few minutes suddenly dissapears form the tray icon and generally doesn't run why?
[12:04] <Lynoure> Op3r: there is no need to get used of it. If you really dislike it (I know I do), campaign against it, or for the features you think it should have
[12:05] <Lynoure> Op3r: I bet it won't be impossible to continue using konqueror as file manager, either.
[12:05] <Op3r> I bet
[12:06] <werty> ...
[12:08] <lubashka> #untrace
[12:10] <lubashka> hello! i need some help, what command should i write to join some definite channel?
[12:10] <alesan> hallo
[12:10] <Lynoure> lubashka: /join #channelname
[12:11] <alesan> I wanted to install googleearth, but it is not in the list, do you know if I have to add some repository? strange, because I think on my laptop I installed directly from adept without problems
[12:11] <lubashka> # untrace
[12:12] <lubashka> блин! нифига не выходит!!
[12:18] <tds> konqueror's good but i'm getting to like dolphin
[12:19] <tds> alesan, sudo apt-get install googleearth-package
[12:20] <_rp> dolphin reminds me of those orange call plans
[12:20] <_rp> im half expecting the racoon to appear somewhere
[12:20] <tds> wish dolphin had tabs though, which i guess if it did, it'd turn into a heavy app like konqueror
[12:21] <alesan> tds, E: Couldn't find package googleearth-package
[12:21] <tds> btw, anyone know how to browse a directory and sub-directory of pics in an image viewer like windows explorer does?
[12:21] <tds> alesan, hmm, it's in my repos. did you try apt-cache search google?
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> !info gwenview | tds
[12:22] <ubotu> tds: gwenview: image viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 838 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> alesan: googleearth-package is in gutsy multiverse repository
[12:22] <tds> WaltzingAlong, i don't use gwenview. quickshow is faster and i like it better
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> !info googleearth-package
[12:22] <ubotu> googleearth-package: utility to automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.2.0 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[12:22] <alesan> wait I am still using feisty
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> !info googleearth-package (feisty)
[12:23] <ubotu> Package googleearth-package does not exist in feisty
[12:23] <werty> is there any possibillity for some programms with similar purpose to merge their features to one
[12:23] <werty> ?
[12:23] <WaltzingAlong> alesan: well there you have it
[12:23] <alesan> yes but I installed it on my laptop! how is it possible
[12:23] <alesan> maybe I installed in some weird way
[12:23] <alesan> I do not remember :)
[12:23] <WaltzingAlong> alesan: there were other packages for feisty i think
[12:24] <WaltzingAlong> !info googleearth (feisty)
[12:24] <alesan> what is the recommended path to upgrade to gutsy from feisty without reinstalling everything?
[12:24] <ubotu> Package googleearth does not exist in feisty
[12:24] <WaltzingAlong> upgrading kubuntu? from feisty (7.04) be sure software-properties-kde is installed (sudo aptitude install software-properties-kde) then follow the upgrade instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade : alesan these
[12:25] <tds> !info amarok
[12:25] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 9618 kB, installed size 31020 kB
[12:34] <Ange|us> is it posible to install a daper kernel on gutsy?
[12:35] <metacon> can any one help me get my sound working i think the prob is alsa not config properly
[12:35] <tds> Ange|us, yes
[12:35] <tds> metacon, specifics?
[12:36] <tds> metacon, what sound card?
[12:36] <metacon> toshiba satalite ati sb450
[12:37] <metacon> its supoted by alsa
[12:37] <mike__> metacon: alsaconf
[12:37] <mike__> as #
[12:37] <mike__> in konsole
[12:37] <tds> metacon, not familiar with it. does it only work on certain apps or not at all?
[12:37] <metacon> no sound at all
[12:38] <crube_> Any way I can see my uptime?
[12:38] <TimS> Conky will show you
[12:38] <WaltzingAlong> crube_: type uptime in a !terminal
[12:38] <TimS> Or that :P
[12:39] <metacon> metacon@host-159:~$ alsaconf
[12:39] <metacon> bash: alsaconf: command not found
[12:39] <metacon> metacon@host-159:~$
[12:39] <crube_> That seemed too obvious so I didn't even try. I thought of it thou :D
[12:39] <Q-collective> hey all
[12:39] <Q-collective> It seems I don't have the alsaconf utility installed. In which package does it reside?
[12:39] <Q-collective> metacon: exactly
[12:39] <WaltzingAlong> or if you are in conversation you can share it with all of us by typing /uptime crube_
[12:39] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: Every network gauge I use tells me that I have 0 up and 0 down, are there any that work over wifi? I have the settings set myself
[12:39] <TimS> Uptime: 1 hours and 58 minutes
[12:39] <TimS> wow
[12:40] <crube_> Uptime: 5 days, 14 hours and 52 minutes
[12:40] <TimS> :o
[12:40] <crube_> Heh. Cool.
[12:40] <Ange|us> tds: how can i install the dapper kernel?
[12:40] <crube_> I installed gutsy that long ago :D
[12:40] <WaltzingAlong> not really the place for it but tis available :D ; check konversation/configure konversation/command aliases for a few more
[12:40] <luisito> mahjong
[12:41] <mike__> i am only getting two desktops in compiz-fusion?
[12:41] <TimS> mike__: ask in #compiz-fusion
[12:41] <tds> Ange|us, there is no "the" dapper kernel, as far as I know. But many are compatible with dapper
[12:41] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ : mike__, check the wiki
[12:41] <Q-collective> anyone?
[12:42] <crube_> There used to be a weather applet in kicker-applets package. Now it's not there anymore. IS there an easy way to get weather shown on my panel?
[12:42] <mike__> cheers :)
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> mike__- did you set the number of desktops in the Compiz settings?
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> !find alsoconf
[12:43] <Q-collective> !find alsaconf
[12:43] <ubotu> Package/file alsoconf does not exist in gutsy
[12:43] <Ange|us> tds: what i want is the kernel that comes with dapper, because it's the only ubuntu kernel that supports squashfs
[12:43] <tds> crube_, if it's called "weather report" it's in my applet panel in Kubuntu 7.10
[12:43] <Q-collective> gah
[12:43] <ubotu> Package/file alsaconf does not exist in gutsy
[12:43] <Morrissey> Hi ... I have a litle problem with Amarok ... it seems like its allways running in "full screen". I don't have any borders in kwin, nor emerald .... The amarok window takes up all of my screen, and there is no way to move it or resize it ... any ideas?
[12:43] <WaltzingAlong> maybe it is alsotools
[12:43] <Q-collective> alsa*
[12:43] <WaltzingAlong> Morrissey: running compiz-fusion ?
[12:43] <WaltzingAlong> thanks
[12:43] <Morrissey> wahooooo, yes
[12:43] <Morrissey> WaltzingAlong, yes
[12:43] <Q-collective> and I have alsatools installed
[12:43] <Q-collective> :\
[12:44] <WaltzingAlong> hm i do not have alsaconf here either
[12:44] <WaltzingAlong> Morrissey: so it could be that i suspect ?
[12:44] <tds> Ange|us, did you delete the kernel it came with?
[12:45] <tds> Ange|us, you can't use apt to fetch it from the repos?
[12:45] <Dragnslcr> Are you looking for alsamixer?
[12:45] <WaltzingAlong> !info alsamixer
[12:45] <ubotu> Package alsamixer does not exist in gutsy
[12:45] <WaltzingAlong> !find alsamixer
[12:45] <ubotu> Found: alsamixergui, gnome-alsamixer
[12:45] <Morrissey> WaltzingAlong, hm? Ive tried with both kwin and compiz/emerald ... no borders
[12:45] <Dragnslcr> !find alsa-util
[12:46] <ubotu> Found: alsa-utils
[12:46] <tds> or you could use kmix which is integrated and works just as well
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> I think the console alsamixer is in alsa-utils
[12:46] <WaltzingAlong> Morrissey: and it happens only with amarokapp?
[12:46] <crube_> tds: I cant find it anywhere for some reason. It's not in the applet menu and it wasn't included in kicker-applets package either.
[12:46] <tds> Morrissey, tried "tools, show player window" then minimize the playlist?
[12:47] <Morrissey> WaltzingAlong, yes ... tdn, a sec please
[12:47] <Ben_Cs> how do i run partitioner in kubuntu?
[12:47] <Morrissey> tds, still no borders on the playlist
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> Ben_Cs: qtparted or just parted for the console based one
[12:48] <tds> crube_, sudo apt-get install kweather
[12:48] <metacon> so the reaso i think the sound is not working is that ther was an eror in the part of the distro that installed alsa i think re enstaling it and the apropiat driver would work prob is i dont know how to do that
[12:48] <WaltzingAlong> Ben_Cs: (though i prefer gparted to qtparted)
[12:48] <Ben_Cs> WaltzingAlong: how about gui one
[12:48] <crube_> tds: Thanks :)
[12:48] <WaltzingAlong> !info qtparted | Ben_Cs
[12:48] <Ange|us> tds: i am using Gutsy , but the gutsy kernel doesn't support squashfs , this is the error when trying to install squashfs (on my custom kernel, but on the official kernel it's the same http://rafb.net/p/9LTnpS67.html ) , so i want to install daper's kernel on gutsy to be able to use squashfs
[12:48] <ubotu> ben_cs: qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[12:48] <crazy_bus> how do I switch the default file manager back to konqueror.  As dolphin wont cut and paste properly and the actions menu is missing many features
[12:49] <WaltzingAlong> Ange|us: or use the gutsy kernel but configure it to support squashfs?
[12:49] <WaltzingAlong> wish to replace dolphin with konqueror? follow the instructions at http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but the opposite (as the article is how to replace konqueror with dolphin) : crazy_bus
[12:49] <maurino> ciao
[12:49] <WaltzingAlong> salute
[12:49] <Ange|us> WaltzingAlong: tried the gutsy kernel, same error as this one > http://rafb.net/p/9LTnpS67.html
[12:50] <tds> Ange|us, what is the kernel version you need?
[12:50] <maurino> italiani figli del tubo catodico ci siete?
[12:50] <marco_> si
[12:50] <marco_> ma non sono in italia
[12:50] <maurino> :)
[12:50] <maurino> idem
[12:50] <maurino> io in francia
[12:50] <marco_> io in Cina
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> germania
[12:51] <Ben_Cs> ubotu: qt parted lets me define mount point?
[12:51] <Ben_Cs> lol
[12:51] <crazy_bus> thanks WaltzingAlong
[12:51] <WaltzingAlong> Ben_Cs: you should edit /etc/fstab if you change partitions (you want them to be mounted when starting)
[12:51] <Ange|us> i don't know whats the version of daper's kernel :S , i never used daper, but it's the only release that supports squashfs
[12:51] <soon> I need a recommendation: which PDA should I buy to sync with Kontact ?!? Any advice is appreciated
[12:51] <Ben_Cs> WaltzingAlong: qt parted lets me define mount point?
[12:51] <maurino> gironzoliamo
[12:51] <WaltzingAlong> !it
[12:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:52] <marco_> I have two questions  for you people
[12:52] <crazy_bus> I don't know if I've being using dolphin to long.  But are folders and files spaced different in konqueror (gutsy)
[12:52] <Ben_Cs> how do i create a new partition with /home mount point
[12:52] <Ben_Cs> ?
[12:52] <WaltzingAlong> !partitions
[12:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:52] <marco_> 1) I would like to have one application to start eveytime I log on
[12:53] <marco_> 2) I have 3 kernels, how can I remove 2 of them
[12:53] <WaltzingAlong> Ben_Cs: create the partition then recall which it is, you will need to modify /etc/fstab (!fstab) accordingly  (or do so through kmenu/system settings/advanced/disk and filesystems
[12:54] <WaltzingAlong> marco_: remove a kernel the same way you install/remove any .deb package - through the package manager so through adept manager
[12:54] <WaltzingAlong> !autostart | marco_
[12:54] <ubotu> marco_: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:54] <marco_> if I try to remove them from adept it also remove many other things...
[12:55] <WaltzingAlong> marco_: yes there may be a few things along with the one you wish to remove
[12:57] <metacon> does any one have any clues about no sound on ati sb450 in kinfo says audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[12:57] <esperegu> I keep getting crashes like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42212/ . they mainly seem to occure when something in the panel is shutting down/getting killed
[12:58] <WaltzingAlong> marco_: linux-image, linux-restricted-modules, linux-ubuntu-modules, linux-headers, and linux-backports ?
[12:59] <marco_> wait
[12:59] <WaltzingAlong> esperegu: perhaps caused by a buggy applet on the panel?
[12:59] <marco_> WaltzingAlong : I am going to tell you in a minute
[13:01] <pbn> hello
[13:01] <Kred> Hi. I'm having trouble with Kopete. Where does it save its data? I removed .kde/apps/kopete already but still it finds my accounts from somewhere.
[13:02] <Ornedan> How does Adept determine whether there is a disto version upgrade available?
[13:02] <pbn> there are these KDM themes, and I don't like them, so to get rid of them in KDE on PC-BSD 1.4, I start kcontrol and go to "KDM Theme Manager" and then uncheck "Enable KDM Themes". Now on a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10, these KDM themes are enabled too, and I'd like to disable them. But, on kubuntu 7.10, there is no "KDM Theme Manager" option in kcontrol.... any idea ?
[13:02] <Jucato> Kred: ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc stores the configuration
[13:02] <Ornedan> I have a gutsy installation that's offering disto upgrade (to gutsy :P). And a feisty install that's not offering distro upgrade
[13:02] <WaltzingAlong> Kred: they may be stored in a kwallet; also locate kopeterc
[13:03] <Kred> Thank you! I'll see what I can find.
[13:03] <WaltzingAlong> Ornedan: gutsy to gutsy, known issue; fixed in (at least) gutsy-proposed
[13:04] <Ornedan> WaltzingAlong: Ok. Well, that's not really a problem anyway. The feisty -> no upgrade offered however is. (I could do it manually, yes, but I'd prefer finding out how it's broken first)
[13:05] <Jucato> Ornedan: did you enable the Pre-release repositories already?
[13:05] <WaltzingAlong> Ornedan: perhaps you could force adept to check with kdesu adept_manager --dist-upgrade
[13:06] <WaltzingAlong> Ornedan: as far as i know, (a certain version of) adept connects to ubuntu to check a file about which dist is latest, compares that to yours, and offers the dist-upgrade accordingly; if the version of adept you have is older, then you would not get that notice
[13:06] <Ornedan> Jucato: Nope. Is that a requirement for it to automatically offer the upgrade?
[13:06] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: according to Riddel, that's no longer necessary if feisty-proposed (Pre-release updates) have been enabled
[13:06] <Jucato> Ornedan: yes. please refer to the instructions
[13:07]  * Jucato points to the channel topic
[13:07] <metacon> says alsaconf removed https://bugs.launchpad.net/alsa-utils/+bug/29597
[13:07] <WaltzingAlong> Ornedan: so if you have not enabled feisty-proposed (pre-release updates) then you would not have been upgraded to the build of adept that would automatically find out about the dist upgrade
[13:08] <Morrissey> I installed gtkpod-aac, but when I try to add a mp4 file it says: m4a/m4p/m4b not supported without the mp4v2 library. You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library.
[13:10] <tds> Morrissey, apt-cache search mp4v2
[13:11] <Morrissey> tds, hi again :) it is installed
[13:13] <Ornedan> Jucato, WaltzingAlong: That would explain why I didn't get the automatic notification. Thanks. I'd read in a few places that the distro upgrade would be offered by the update notifier, but those didn't mention the configuration prerequisites.
[13:13] <poison--> mornin guys
[13:14] <tds> poison--, not all guys here
[13:14] <poison--> "guys" means "people" in generaly
[13:14] <poison--> :D
[13:15] <Lynoure> like in "one of the guys"? =)
[13:16] <tds> why is that? and someone could say, "hey girl" and clearly mean girls
[13:18] <poison--> can we stay on topic instead?
[13:18] <max__> hi
[13:18] <max__> hi
[13:19] <poison--> !hi
[13:19] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:20] <max__> may u help me?
[13:20] <Lynoure> poison--:
[13:20] <tds> max__, idk, may i?
[13:20] <poison--> :D
[13:20] <max__> i have some crash with my video?
[13:20] <[ifr0g]> lol
[13:21] <poison--> ATI?
[13:21] <max__> kaffeine don't play video
[13:21] <max__> sound enable
[13:21] <max__> but i don't see video
[13:21] <poison--> go to ADDREMOVE programs and search for: kubuntu
[13:21] <max__> what's happen?
[13:21] <poison--> u need codecs max__
[13:21] <max__> yes
[13:22] <max__> what kind of codecs i need?
[13:22] <SoulChild> hey all, is there a way to change from 32-bit to 64-bit without loosing my configuration ????
[13:24] <max__> hey
[13:24] <poison--> max__ , go to add remove programs, search for kubuntu, u will get something like: kubuntu restricted extras
[13:24] <poison--> install it
[13:24] <poison--> soulchild, dont think so
[13:25] <atlfalcons866> will there be a speed boost if i compile a kernel
[13:25] <max__> i don't see any restricteds
[13:25] <poison--> are u using 7.10?
[13:25] <max__> typing kubuntu i see nothing
[13:25] <max__> no
[13:25] <max__> 7.04
[13:25] <poison--> lmao
[13:26] <poison--> than open console and: apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[13:26] <poison--> :D
[13:26] <[ifr0g]> Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!
[13:26] <max__> one moment
[13:26] <poison--> take your time
[13:27] <dusk_> hey guys
[13:27] <rakan> hello
[13:27] <[ifr0g]> hei.
[13:27] <dusk_> i have updated from 7.04 to 7.10..and after that this is a total mess:S
[13:28] <dusk_> no sound...i had to reconfigure the nvidia drivers, etc etc...
[13:28] <rakan> how can i setup KDE to change keyboad layout when i press left alt-shift like windows style???
[13:28] <dusk_> but the major problem now is no sound ..:S
[13:28] <Morrissey> I installed gtkpod-aac, but when I try to add a mp4 file it says: m4a/m4p/m4b not supported without the mp4v2 library. You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library.
[13:28] <atlfalcons866> will there be a speed boost if i compile a kernel
[13:29] <dusk_> i have run the command asoundconf list
[13:29] <dusk_> and just has 1 sound card there..i have 2
[13:29] <dusk_> can anyone help plz ..
[13:29] <dusk_> my external usb sound card is detected, the onboard no
[13:29] <poison--> !sound
[13:30] <dusk_> is that a command!
[13:30] <poison--> should be if bot was alive
[13:30] <poison--> :D
[13:30] <dusk_> ah
[13:30] <dusk_> !Sound
[13:30] <dusk_> !sound
[13:30] <dusk_> ....
[13:30] <WaltzingAlong> rakan: configure the kde keyboard tool
[13:30] <tds> does anyone here recompile their kernel?
[13:31] <rakan> WaltzingAlong: i cannot find alt-shift options, does "Changes group" means changes layout?
[13:31] <WaltzingAlong> tds: not lately
[13:32] <tds> WaltzingAlong, notice any performance gain?
[13:32] <tds> thought about doing it but didn't the the gain would be noticeable
[13:32] <WaltzingAlong> when i did that it was just to do it (and then another time to enable badram) but nothing about speed was my objective
[13:33] <WaltzingAlong> tds: so maybe to learn how but you just as well learn how to package software into .deb :D then contribute to kubuntu
[13:33] <WaltzingAlong> tds: which things seem slow now? how much faster do you expect them to be?
[13:34] <tds> WaltzingAlong, nothing seems slow really, just thought about doing it for the heck of it. done it one time and something went wrong after spending 30 minutes tweaking it but i gave up. it gave me a kernel panic
[13:34] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: speed boost if you compile a kernel? maybe but if so i would doubt it to be by any amount you could readily detect. ... unless you are doing some intense video editing or hardcore db usage (something other than normal desktop computing)
[13:35] <rakan> WaltzingAlong: i cannot find alt-shift options, does "Changes group" means changes layout?
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> rakan: in the time you have waited for my reply you could have tried it yourself, no?
[13:36] <rakan> i did give it a try
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> what happened
[13:36] <rakan> in xkb options
[13:36] <rakan> i put alt-ctrl changes group
[13:36] <rakan> it doesnt seem to change anything
[13:36] <rakan> i only have 2 keyboard layouts
[13:37] <WaltzingAlong> rakan: ok how about this. note the commands for each of the layouts. setxkbmap and such
[13:37] <rakan> setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> rakan: venture to kmenu/system settings/keyboard and mouse/keyboard shortcuts, then assign the commands to switch to whichever keys you want
[13:38] <rakan> sorry: setxkbmap -option grp:ctrl_alt_toggle
[13:39] <rakan> ok will check that out
[13:40] <rakan> OK, so there is an option for "Switch to next keyboard layout
[13:40] <rakan> what about previous?
[13:40] <rakan> so that i can go back and forth between layouts?
[13:41] <WaltzingAlong> maybe next and next again?
[13:41] <rakan> nope, doesnt work
[13:42] <WaltzingAlong> that combination there works here (ctrl alt k)
[13:43] <rakan> does it switch to the previous layout on urs?
[13:44] <titanix88> hi everyone.
[13:44] <WaltzingAlong> i do not see a 'switch to prev' but can switch next to next to next in a rotation
[13:44] <herr_weltschaft> moine
[13:44] <herr_weltschaft> moin
[13:44] <WaltzingAlong> was gibt's?
[13:44] <titanix88> whatz:in what?
[13:44] <WaltzingAlong> greetings titanix88
[13:44] <alberdi> hi
[13:45] <titanix88> greetings!
[13:45] <alberdi> with metod is beter for instal apt-get?
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> alberdi: i prefer sudo aptitude
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> alberdi: or sudo aptitude install <package>
[13:46] <titanix88> alberdi:i do find apt-get comfortable.
[13:46] <alberdi> how do i se if the program i want to install is abailable on apt-get?
[13:47] <SlimeyPete> alberdi: search for it using Adept
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> alberdi: apt-cache search <package>
[13:47] <SlimeyPete> or type "apt-cache search programname"
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> alberdi: or aptitude search <package>
[13:47] <titanix88> albardi: tab or auto completion.
[13:47] <rakan> Dont know, it doesnt seem to rotate here :S
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> :(
[13:47] <alberdi> ah, tried list :P
[13:47] <alberdi> ill prove it
[13:48] <titanix88> what is rotating?o_0
[13:48] <rakan> keyboard layout rotation
[13:49] <rakan> when i switch keyboard layouts, it goes from english to arabic when i press alt-shit-z as configured
[13:49] <titanix88> the earth?!
[13:49] <rakan> but when it is on arabic and i press alt-shit-z again it doesnt rotate back to english
[13:49] <rakan> it should if it is to work like a Queue
[13:50] <rakan> next() on the last item means go back to first :D
[13:50] <titanix88> rakan: u enabled arabic keyboard layout maybe.disable it if u dont want it.
[13:50] <rakan> yes actually i did and i do really want it
[13:51] <titanix88> rakan:enable sticky switching.
[13:51] <rakan> i do PHP web development
[13:51] <rakan> i do need this when i code
[13:51] <rakan> already done
[13:51] <rakan> i think Kubuntu reads alt-shift differantly when i switch to arabic
[13:52] <rakan> because the letter on "Z" position might be differant
[13:52] <rakan> let me see if i can assign two standard keys
[13:52] <WaltzingAlong> rakan: yeah same here, alt-ctrl-k ; the k moves in the other layouts
[13:53] <titanix88> rakan: yes, shortcuts don't work when u swich key layout.
[13:53] <rakan> can we assign something like alt-something or ctrl-something
[13:53] <rakan> where something is not a letter key?
[13:54] <titanix88> try not using any language key.
[13:54] <rakan> thats what i will try to do
[13:54] <rakan> but i am thinking of what key to use with alt
[13:56] <titanix88> rakan: u can use super key.
[13:56] <WaltzingAlong> a number?
[13:56] <rakan> wth is katapult?
[13:56] <titanix88> numbers change with key layout too.
[13:56] <WaltzingAlong> !info katapult
[13:56] <ubotu> katapult: item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2.1-2 (gutsy), package size 419 kB, installed size 3152 kB
[13:56] <rakan> alt-space
[13:57] <WaltzingAlong> page up/down?
[13:57] <rakan> hmm optional
[13:57] <rakan> so aint necessary i guess
[13:57] <rakan> will see
[13:57] <WaltzingAlong> rakan: have you not been using katapult? press alt-space to give it a try, type something
[13:57] <rakan> yea it worked
[13:58] <rakan> thanks WaltzinAlong
[13:58] <rakan> thanks everybody :)
[13:58] <rakan> oh
[13:58] <titanix88> i guess space is same in all layout.
[13:58] <rakan> this katapult is nice
[13:59] <rakan> thanks i guess i can get used to alt-pagedown
[13:59] <rakan> !info eclipse
[13:59] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[14:00] <rakan> :S
[14:00] <rakan> anyway
[14:00] <rakan> thanks again
[14:00] <WaltzingAlong> glad you found it
[14:00] <rakan> bye
[14:02] <edon> anyone got kvm running on gutsy, amd64/
[14:03] <kaminix> Is there anyway to make a table in Koffice which has one cell on the left side and two on the right?
[14:03] <edon> the kernel panics here when i load the module
[14:06] <alesan> sorry, somebody before told me to install some package bwefore upgrading feisty to gutsy
[14:06] <alesan> what was that?
[14:07]  * genii sips a coffee
[14:08] <WaltzingAlong> alesan: to have feisty-proposed enabled (pre-release)
[14:08] <alesan> no you said this one: software-properties-kde
[14:08] <alesan> now I have found it
[14:09] <nosrednaekim> genii: how much of that stuff do you drink?
[14:09] <WaltzingAlong> yes software-properties-kde should be installed (which lets you easily select pre-release updates in adept manager)
[14:09] <WaltzingAlong> genii: dripdrop coffe?
[14:10] <alesan> WaltzingAlong, ok it was already installed
[14:10] <alesan> thank you
[14:10] <genii> WaltzingAlong: Drip coffee, yes. On work days I drink about a large cup every hour-90 minutes
[14:10] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[14:13] <genii> On lunch i lay off the coffee and have something like chocolate milk or V8, etc
[14:17] <WaltzingAlong> guess it is good that it is just drip coffee!
[14:18] <Jucato> choco milk...
[14:20] <WaltzingAlong> is that chocolate flavored soy milk? Jucato
[14:20] <Jucato> ew!
[14:22] <WaltzingAlong> haha just teasing... it has been a long time since i have stolen cow's milk from a calf,
[14:26] <wezza> hi, I have a problem with guarddog; once installed I cannot browse nor do everything else, so you have to allow the incoming connections (with firestarter this is not needed =>only outgoing was needed). And even if you set the configuration it does not work sometimes (for example ktorrent / irc)
[14:28] <alberdi> how do i identifie the line some one write to me, how do i put it a diferent color in kubuntu konversation?
[14:28] <wezza> alberdi: over here, the line are red, directed to me
[14:30] <wezza> Noone has problems with guarddog?
[14:30] <alberdi> then its my monitor, it doesent display some colors
[14:31] <Op3r> guarddog
[14:31] <Op3r> whats that for?
[14:31] <Morrissey> firewall++
[14:31] <wezza> Op3r: firewall for KDE
[14:31] <vzduch> !info guarddog
[14:31] <Op3r> oh
[14:31] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[14:31] <Op3r> firewall
[14:31] <Op3r> and I thought you dont need one considering you are already using linux :(
[14:32] <Morrissey> Op3r, what has that to do with anything? ;) You should read some info about firewall
[14:32] <wezza>  think it's strange you can only set a configuration for a connection; not for incoming and outgoing apart
[14:32] <user_> XaY!!!!
[14:32] <user_> Iam flood!!!!
[14:32] <user_> !!!!!
[14:32] <user_> !!!!!!!
[14:32] <user_> !!!!!
[14:32] <user_> !!!!!!
[14:33] <user_> !!!!!!!
[14:33] <user_> !!!!!!
[14:33] <user_> !!!!!!
[14:33] <user_> !!!!!!!!
[14:33] <user_> !!!!!!!!!
[14:33] <user_> !!!!!!!!!!
[14:33] <user_> !!!!!!!!
[14:33] <user_> !!!!!!!!
[14:33] <jpatrick> some people are so stupid
[14:33] <vzduch> Jucato: even nicer would've been a kick msg like e.g. 'you were flood' *gg*
[14:33] <Jucato> :)
[14:34] <Morrissey> Jucato, that was quite fast ... had to be some sort of record :P
[14:34] <Jucato> vzduch: would you have rather waited a few more seconds while I typed that or would you prefer faster action? :)
[14:34] <Jucato> Morrissey: konversation ftw :)
[14:34] <alesan> faster action
[14:34]  * Morrissey thinks ban and kick is all about speed :P
[14:34] <Morrissey> Jucato, cha .. your oldschool :P
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> Jucato isn't one to worry about offending a spammer
[14:34] <vzduch> well, depends on the situation
[14:34] <wezza> but noone actually uses guarddog over here?
[14:34] <Jucato> specially w/ those kinds of flooders... every second lost is 5 lines flooded :)
[14:35] <Jucato> vzduch: some other time :)
[14:35] <Morrissey> wezza, sorry dude, I trust my network admin ;)
[14:36] <wezza> Morrissey: ghehe, but over here I myself am the network admin ;)
[14:36] <Morrissey> here too ..
[14:36] <Morrissey> :P
[14:36] <wezza> Morrissey: :P
[14:36] <vzduch> hehe
[14:37] <Op3r> yay
[14:38] <wezza> Morrissey: I know by default, there aren't any server-related processes, but I personally think it's beter to uese a firewall (even though there is some on my router)
[14:38] <Op3r> wezza, i suggest when using guard dog you just have to think about it like it is windows firewall?
[14:38] <Op3r> :D
[14:38] <vzduch> Windoze Firewall is kind-of like a Swiss cheese.. ;)
[14:39] <Morrissey> wezza, I see ...and what was your problem again?
[14:39] <vzduch> to my knowledge Guarddog is airtight if need be
[14:39] <Op3r> to my knowledge iptables can do the job?
[14:39] <wezza> Op3r: guarddog uses iptables, so that's not really windows ;)
[14:39] <vzduch> Op3r: Guarddog is a GUI for iptables, nothing else
[14:39] <Morrissey> iptables can be quite tricky, and wezza is correct
[14:40] <DarkWizzard> hello
[14:40] <DarkWizzard> so I was updating to Gutsy from feisty
[14:40] <DarkWizzard> and the dist upgrade tool
[14:40] <DarkWizzard> from adept.Crashed just when it downloaded the packages
[14:40] <DarkWizzard> how can I restart it ?
[14:41] <wezza> Morrissey: I think it's strange you cannot set outgoing / incoming connections apart; and besides that connections don'e seem to succeed, not even when I've set the right parameters in guarddog
[14:41] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in konsole
[14:41] <DarkWizzard> I mean the grafical way
[14:41] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, it iill resume
[14:42] <DarkWizzard> I know the console way
[14:42] <Morrissey> Darkrift411, why won't you use konsole? trust me, youll be allright :)
[14:42] <DarkWizzard> but I want the automated grafical install
[14:42] <DarkWizzard> I don't want to run into problems
[14:43] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, quick bring you up to speed here ... adept USE apt-get, its just a GUI verison of it ... you won't run into problems! If you do, you will also get it in GUI
[14:43] <DarkWizzard> man
[14:43] <DarkWizzard> I did this before
[14:43] <knight__> apt-get
[14:43] <DarkWizzard> and the system broke
[14:43] <DarkWizzard> when upgrading distros
[14:44] <DarkWizzard> so I want to do it the safe and grafical way
[14:44] <knight__> what is it
[14:44] <DarkWizzard> how do I start that automated program ?
[14:44] <knight__> well , i found that kde often goes wrong
[14:44] <DarkWizzard> I need to find that tool
[14:44] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, if you insists! I can assure you that it does the same, but either way: start - system - adept manager .... then press full upgrade
[14:45] <DarkWizzard> no man
[14:45] <DarkWizzard> http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/snapshot9.png
[14:45] <DarkWizzard> this program
[14:45] <DarkWizzard> how do I start it ?
[14:45] <DarkWizzard> it has to be somewhere
[14:46] <Morrissey> yes man
[14:46] <titanix88> hey
[14:46] <titanix88> how is kubu in 7.04?
[14:47] <Morrissey> start adept manager, press "adept" - "manage reporosires" go to Updates ... make sure "pre-release" is checked, and "recommended"
[14:47] <DarkWizzard> but it modifyed my repos
[14:47] <Morrissey> then start "update", restart the program ... press "full upgrade", and the snapshot you showed me will show
[14:47] <titanix88> heard some people doesn't like dolphin?
[14:47] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, then damn! it was you who wanted this GUi thingy in the first place ... man
[14:47] <DarkWizzard> the gui thingy from the screenshot
[14:48] <DarkWizzard> not a simple system upgrade
[14:48] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, YES
[14:48] <titanix88> she can be a women!
[14:48] <DarkWizzard> ah fuck it
[14:48] <DarkWizzard> console
[14:48] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, the snapshot you showed me comes from adept manager ... trust me, exacly as I told yo
[14:48] <mzungu> titanix88, dolphin is for ppl who like a file manager to manage....files
[14:48]  * Morrissey thinks people don't trust hum enough
[14:48] <DarkWizzard> every time they do some new automated shiny gui for the newbies it breaks
[14:48] <Morrissey> word
[14:49] <DarkWizzard> ok
[14:49] <DarkWizzard> I'm gone
[14:49] <mzungu> if you are happy with konq, it can do it for you better
[14:49] <DarkWizzard> thanks
[14:49] <Morrissey> np ... man
[14:50] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, you should check out the "update tutorial" on kubuntu pages ... thats for newbies, and its safe
[14:50] <titanix88> darkwizzard: women can be here!so no *uck plz.
[14:51] <Morrissey> DarkWizzard, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[14:51] <Morrissey> titanix88, um .. don't think DarkWizzard said anything about any women, so cut the boy some slack :)
[14:53] <mzungu> titanix88, btw have you ever read the graffiti in women's toilets? ;)
[14:53] <titanix88> i am trying to support women collaboration in linux as told in tldp.org/howto/women in linux
[14:54] <mzungu> yeah - you are actually correct to point out DarkWizzard 's error :)
[14:54] <poison---> !dvd
[14:54] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:54] <DarkWizzard> what error ?
[14:55] <mzungu> linguistic ;)
[14:55] <DarkWizzard> look
[14:55] <DarkWizzard> women are strong, they can take it
[14:55] <DarkWizzard> don't look down on them
[14:55] <mzungu> my point
[14:55] <DarkWizzard> but nevermind
[14:56] <mzungu> just trying to be nice to both sides :)
[14:56] <DarkWizzard> I hope I live to see the day when their leet python upgrade script doesn't segfault
[14:56] <DarkWizzard> ok
[14:56] <DarkWizzard> now I'm really gone
[14:56] <DarkWizzard> sorry if I offended anyone
[14:56] <DarkWizzard> and thanks
[14:57] <titanix88> darkwizzard: which indirectly suggests it was to women. don't do that man. don't make them feel lonely.
[14:57] <Morrissey> Currently studying Civil Engineer on communication techonology, we have about 20% women, and they all is pretty good coders ...
[14:57] <titanix88> thnx
[14:57] <Morrissey> are*
[14:58] <Doobeh> Why wouldn't they be good coders? :)
[14:58] <Morrissey> Doobeh, refr to DarkWizzard's quote upstairs
[14:58] <nosrednaekim> !coc
[14:58] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[14:58] <titanix88> yeah, y cromsome does not hold intelligence.:p
[14:59] <Morrissey> omg ... this is getting out of hand ...
[14:59] <Remo_A> When I try to upgrade from feisty to gutsy gibbon, I don't get that window http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/snapshot2.png when I go to "manage repositories" in adept. Instead I get to see my sources.list   ... What should I do?
[15:00] <amigrave> my compiz config manager has lost it's icons in all setup panels. Is it a known problem ?
[15:00] <Jucato> Remo_A: please make sure "software-properties-kde" is installed
[15:00] <Morrissey> amigrave, sure is ... have it too
[15:01] <amigrave> Morrissey: found a solution ? missing package or something ?
[15:01] <titanix88> amigrave:they were there before?
[15:01] <Morrissey> amigrave, its not a missing package, I actually havent search for a sollution, but let me know :)
[15:01] <Remo_A> Jucato: thanks, it wasn't
[15:02] <amigrave> titanix88: yes just after the feisty -> gusty upgrade they were there. But after I made lot of changes in order to get compiz working. and now that it is working I just saw that the icons were gone
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> amigrave: install all the plugins
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> oh.. the icons are gone
[15:02] <poison---> Jucato, just experienced the weirdest issue with gutsy
[15:02] <Jucato> poison---: ok....???
[15:02] <poison---> i was running it in a small 50GB partition and the damn thing got filled up
[15:03] <poison---> 0% space left
[15:03] <poison---> rebooted and it never logged in again
[15:03] <poison---> said there wasnt enough space
[15:03] <poison---> lol
[15:03] <Jucato> hm... maybe /var got filled up
[15:03] <poison---> had to use the live cd to del some trash
[15:03] <poison---> worked fine tho after
[15:03] <titanix88> poison:50gb small partition!:p
[15:04] <Jucato> you could check which dir is eating it up. probably /var
[15:04] <poison---> i eas using alot of space with movies and games
[15:04] <poison---> i was*
[15:04] <poison---> deleted some and im good now
[15:04] <poison---> now the issue is how to resize the partition
[15:05] <amigrave> Morrissey: do you remember after what operation the icons disapeared ?
[15:05] <poison---> deleted the windows partition wich is 160GB but i cant add it to gutsy partyition :(
[15:05] <wezza> poison---: is it not better to use a different partition for your data and OS?
[15:05] <Morrissey> amigrave, sry dude ... I dont
[15:05] <titanix88> poison: maybe quota would have been your rescuer.
[15:06]  * Morrissey HATES to code for duo core optimizing .... wondering how it will be on quad core ...
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> poison---: you can make a separate /home...
[15:06] <poison---> ehehe, true
[15:07] <poison---> i might do that instead
[15:07] <poison---> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[15:07] <poison---> does this link aply to gutsy?
[15:07] <poison---> im having no luck at all
[15:07] <Morrissey> sorry ubuntu, this is #kubuntu ... your prob looking for #ubuntu
[15:07] <poison---> !dvd
[15:07] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:07] <poison---> got it here mate
[15:09] <wezza> and so ubuntu left ^^
[15:09] <Morrissey> :)
[15:09] <Morrissey> Im in a gread mood today, must be the weekend hovering in
[15:11] <poison---> in that url about playing dvds
[15:12] <poison---> says: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[15:12] <poison---> but in fact, what i had to do was sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[15:13] <nosrednaekim> if its a wiki, edit it ;)
[15:14] <WaltzingAlong> poison---: you could also add the medibuntu repository
[15:14] <Remo_A> what is the "distribution upgrade tool"? I closed adept, but can't find that one
[15:15] <WaltzingAlong> Remo_A: alt+f2   kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"
[15:16] <poison---> !medibuntu
[15:16] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:17] <Remo_A> WaltzingAlong: doesn't seem to work... no reaction after I typed that in and gave the password
[15:17] <Remo_A> --dist-upgrade is unknown
[15:17] <WaltzingAlong> --version-upgrade then
[15:18] <Remo_A> neither
[15:18] <amigrave> Morrissey: I did an strace of ccsm and I saw it was reading the icons from /usr/local/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/ ...  but the icons are not there. So I guess there's a missing package or somehtin
[15:18] <atlfalcons866> #debian
[15:18] <WaltzingAlong> Remo_A: though if you have installed software-properties-kde then you can enable (easily) the feisty-proposed (pre-release) updates in adept manager; then update and upgrade should pull down the latest adept
[15:19] <Morrissey> amigrave, its deffinatly not a package thats missing ... but it's strange if the icons is moved ... make sure that the icons has a+r :) Maybe thats the case?
[15:19] <Morrissey> if they are there at all
[15:20] <Remo_A> WaltzingAlong: I can do a version-actualisation, but then it comes: "Ready to Upgrade! Click finish to close the Adept Package Manager and launch the distribution upgrade tool
[15:20] <Remo_A> but it doesn't do anything afterwards
[15:21] <Remo_A> WaltzingAlong: update still gives me feisty repos...
[15:21] <Remo_A> and no changement mossible
[15:21] <amigrave> Morrissey: I see there is a glitch between /usr/share/icons and /usr/local/share/icons. I guess a symlink will fix. Keep you informed
[15:21] <WaltzingAlong> yeah that distribution tool is what you want but that is just a small program just downloaded during this process.
[15:22] <Remo_A> ?? it's not there
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> so it gets downloaded to /tmp/ something but not sure then why it is not running
[15:23] <Remo_A> yes it gets downloaded to a temp dir
[15:24] <Remo_A> anyone in here who can help?
[15:30] <amigrave> Morrissey: in fact it didn't help but I knnow where are the image, I know they exists and are readable and according to strace, ccsm open them ! So I don't understand. Maybe for reason X gnome api can't handle svg anymore ? The images are there :/usr/share/ccsm/images
[15:31] <Remo_A> When trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy gibbon, I get as far as to the version actualisation(go through there and do "finish"), it downloads something into a temporary directory but then stops working. I just see my normal adept window in front of me
[15:31] <iz6iyr> ciao a tutti è la prima volta che chatto con linux
[15:31] <LjL> !it | iz6iyr
[15:31] <ubotu> iz6iyr: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:32] <iz6iyr> thanks
[15:32] <iz6iyr> it is my first chatting on linux kubuntu
[15:32] <Remo_A> ....
[15:33] <Remo_A> everybody knows the standard way, but no one can help, if there appears a problem.
[15:33] <LjL> iz6iyr: if you just want to chat a little even if it's not a kubun support question, try #ubuntu-offtopic (in english) too
[15:33] <LjL> Remo_A: define "stops working"
[15:33] <nosrednaekim> Remo_A: " sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" rom the command line
[15:34] <Remo_A> LjL: doesn't proceed, it just closes the version actualisation window and goes back to the adept manager main window.
[15:34] <amigrave> Morrissey: so maybe there's a missing package that makes ccsm unable to handle svg anymore
[15:34] <LjL> Remo_A: i concur with trying dist-upgrade, BUT make sure that the kubuntu-desktop package is installed, and that you have no third-party repositories enabled
[15:34] <Remo_A> nosrednaekim: no updates to be installed there
[15:35] <nosrednaekim> Remo_A: then its probably done...
[15:35] <LjL> Remo_A: that's probably because your sources.list still has 'feisty', change it
[15:35] <LjL> Remo_A: check also "lsb_release -a", in case you already have gutsy ;)
[15:35] <Remo_A> LjL: i know it has, but why doesn't it change it itself?
[15:35] <Remo_A> LjL it's feisty
[15:35] <amigrave> Morrissey: FOUND ! sudo apt-get install librsvg2-common
[15:36] <Remo_A> 7.4 feisty
[15:36] <LjL> Remo_A: well, it should change it, but i don't know *when* it changes it... if it's supposed to change it only *after* it crashes, then it won't be changed ;)
[15:36] <Remo_A> exactly
[15:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> say i wanted to grep my konversation log files for all urls ending in .jpg, how would i get grep to *just* get urls and not any other use of that string?  i don't know if it can handle wildcards...  looks like just regular expressions, which i don't get...
[15:36] <Remo_A> ok, I'll do it manually, what are the entries?
[15:37] <LjL> Remo_A: the very same as the ones you have already (minus any third-party repos), except change every "feisty" into a "gutsy". that's all there is to it. i can do it for you if you prefer, just pastebin the file
[15:37] <Remo_A> ok
[15:37] <Remo_A> no no, it's okay
[15:37] <Remo_A> but thanks
[15:38]  * Jucato notes the use of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends" if doing upgrade to gutsy from the command line...
[15:38] <Remo_A> you'd regexp through it, wouldn't you ;)
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:40] <Remo_A> LjL: I had some beryl entries in the sources list
[15:40] <Remo_A> maybe that caused a prob
[15:40] <LjL> !netsplit
[15:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> LjL: problem: ubotu split :\
[15:41] <LjL> Daisuke_Laptop: can't do much, the backup bot split as well
[15:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> right
[15:41] <LjL> i'm sure he'll be back soon
[15:42] <BluesKaj> the so called saviour proprietary driver for ati cards is a bust on my setup, no dri or 3d ...google earth is jerky and slow ...I guess they're catering to gamers and the eye candy crowd
[15:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> i was just saying, you were trying to use the !netsplit factoid
[15:42] <LjL> Daisuke_Laptop: ah well yeah i hadn't noticed it split yet
[15:43] <BluesKaj> makes me think feisty might be a better distro for me
[15:43] <WaltzingAlong> BluesKaj: which fglrx is that? in repos or from ati?
[15:44] <EtienneG> is there an "official" way (ie, no hack or third-party repo) to get desktop effects à la Compiz on Kubuntu ?
[15:44] <WaltzingAlong> EtienneG: yes
[15:44] <Vermux> !stdout
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ : EtienneG  start here. check the kubuntu how to then the compiz wiki (where is the cube!)
[15:45] <Vermux> !stdout
[15:45] <intern> excuse me
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> bot is on holiday
[15:45] <BluesKaj> the restricted driver in gutsy ,the 8.37, 8.40.4 , 8.41.7, 8.2 etc etc , non of them do the job for my onboard x200g
[15:45] <EtienneG> WaltzingAlong, thabks a lot, that must be a FAQ
[15:45] <Vermux> !stdout
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> EtienneG: enough that i use a command alias for it ;)
[15:45] <intern> I need to know how to copy files from this windows disc to a windows harddrive using linux
[15:45] <intern> or more specifically, kubuntu
[15:46] <Vermux> !stdout
[15:46] <ous> hey all
[15:46] <intern> I know how to do it in the latest ubuntu, but it seems a tad harder
[15:46] <ous>  I'm trying to install xubuntu on an old Vaio PCV-200 with a newer 80GB HDD in it
[15:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> ous: try #xubuntu
[15:46] <WaltzingAlong> intern: how would you do it in ubuntu (gnome)?
[15:46] <Vermux> !grep
[15:46] <intern> I would click on the computer and click "disk 1"
[15:46] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: bot is on break right now ;)
[15:47] <ous> (I know this is the kubuntu channel, but the xubuntu channel seems pretty slow)
[15:47] <Vermux> ok. let him rest
[15:47] <ous> anyhoo the issue has to do with Grub specifically
[15:47] <nosrednaekim> ous: and....
[15:47] <atlfalcons866> is kde more memory hungry than gnome
[15:47] <ous> whenever I boot up Grub fails on Stage 2 with Error 18
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> atlfalcons866: depends on who you ask
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> they seem about equal to me
[15:48] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: i find it less so. but you may wish to check xfce (xubuntu-desktop) or fluxbox for that matter
[15:48] <atlfalcons866> i hate gnome its like a rock you cant do anything
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> so don't use it
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> very simple
[15:48] <intern> that's an opinion, I love gnome
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> and you can do quite a lot with it
[15:49] <atlfalcons866> i heard kde4 is suppose to be less memory intensive than kde3
[15:49] <intern> :P
[15:49] <intern> how do I mount and browse the windows HD?
[15:49] <ous> so Error 18 seems to be "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS"
[15:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> why don't we wait until it comes out to decide that?
[15:49] <nosrednaekim> ous: see if your BIOs has anything about HD size
[15:49] <atlfalcons866> intern: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[15:50] <ous> nosrednaekim: what should I be looking for
[15:51] <user_> AAA!!!!!
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> ous: I forget what it is called maybe "wide mode" or something like tta?
[15:51] <ous> nosrednaekim: you mean "block mode"?
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> ous: maybe...
[15:51] <ous> nosrednaekim: or is that LBA?
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> LBA I *THINK* has to do with FAT
[15:51] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, which ati card do you use ?
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: Xpress1100
[15:52] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:52] <ous> coz I read around that disabling block mode works
[15:52] <CaseyIntern> how do I open a konqueror window with everything visible?
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> ous: you could try :)
[15:53] <CaseyIntern> sudo -i konqueror?
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> CaseyIntern: what do you mean everything visible?
[15:53] <CaseyIntern> like, I need to look at /
[15:53] <ous> I did that but it didn't work
[15:53] <CaseyIntern> and everything in it
[15:53] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, that 8.42 driver doesn't do 'dick' on my x200g ... the default retricted driver actually works better
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: no clue... I don't even know how I got mine working really... I tried acouple things and rebooted and it wroked finally :)
[15:54] <ous> I was going to play with pio modes and UDMA modes and the such to see if that works
[15:54] <WaltzingAlong> CaseyIntern: open konqueror like normal, then view/show hidden files
[15:55] <ous> I guess I'll go and do that..
[15:55] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, the restricted driver is in the system settings /advanced  section
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah... I know
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> I'm talking about the 8.42
[15:56] <CaseyIntern> what is the command for konqueror, just for my info
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> CaseyIntern: konqueror
[15:56] <CaseyIntern> hmm
[15:56] <CaseyIntern> that doesn't do anything
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> why?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> I have a feeling the ati proprietary driver doesn't load at start up due to a setting in the xorg or modules file , but I dunno exactly how to fix it .
[15:57] <CaseyIntern> for my information, no reason
[15:57] <The3055> !codecs
[15:57] <Ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: try using the 8.42 driver and pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> CaseyIntern: no do not run sudo konqueror    kdesu koqonqueror or kdesudo konqueror would be better
[16:06] <CaseyIntern> okay, new question
[16:06] <CaseyIntern> how do I remount cdrom?
[16:11] <lordlamer> hi. i want to submit 2 bugs at the installer from the cd. where can i do that? the two problems are that the translations in the installer are not always translated. most buttons are in english. like cancel or next. and the other thing is that if the install is running the progressbar is away if i start some other apps at install.
[16:12] <Daisuke_Ido> !launchpad
[16:12] <Ubotwo> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[16:12] <snm> plhfdcndeqnt
[16:12] <snm> здравствуйте
[16:12] <snm> кто нибудь может мне помочь.
[16:12] <snm> .
[16:12] <LjL> !ru | snm
[16:12] <Daisuke_Ido> !en | snm
[16:12] <Ubotwo> snm: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[16:12] <Ubotwo> snm: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[16:13] <snm> !ru
[16:13] <snm> ya lamer
[16:13] <stdin> lordlamer: here https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug
[16:14] <lordlamer> thanks
[16:14] <snm> блять
[16:14] <snm> англичане
[16:14] <snm> ,(
[16:17] <vegan_sxe> help me plaese
[16:17] <vegan_sxe> please
[16:18] <stdin> vegan_sxe: as long as you speak english this time, just ask your question
[16:18] <nosrednaekim> whats the problem?
[16:18] <vegan_sxe> kubuntu
[16:19] <vegan_sxe> my problem
[16:19] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu isn't a problem... its the solution ;)
[16:19] <vegan_sxe> i stupid little girl
[16:19] <stdin> vegan_sxe: behave in here
[16:20] <CaseyIntern> okay, I have one more problem
[16:20] <vegan_sxe> я не понимаю
[16:20] <CaseyIntern> I need to mount the disc that has the system files for windows so I can fix the install
[16:20] <CaseyIntern> in otherwords
[16:21] <CaseyIntern> I need to mount a cd
[16:21] <CaseyIntern> it says there's nothing in the cd
[16:23] <Tigerstein> is it possible, to reinstall grub after a windows install, with a 6.10 ubuntu live cd? on the machine is version 7.10
[16:25] <The3055> Hi
[16:25] <The3055> !nvidia
[16:25] <Ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:26] <coordinator> hi, all!
[16:27] <faLUCE>  hi. given a protocol (for example rtsp, or http), an ip and a port number, how can i see the bitrate of the incoming/outcoming traffic?
[16:27] <CaseyIntern> I need help mounting a cd
[16:27] <coordinator> is there a way to set dolphin's default view to "details"?
[16:30] <Morrissey> CaseyIntern, whats your problem?
[16:30] <Morrissey> CaseyIntern, your cd should be mounted automatic
[16:30] <ous> how would I go about creating a separate /boot partition; i.e. I know how to do that when installing kubuntu, but what do I need to set the settings as, and would I need to specify that Grub be installed in that partition?
[16:31] <CaseyIntern> then I'm screwed
[16:31] <GuHHH> is it possible to make a link to a file from another? like: /var/run/mysqld/mysql.sock to /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock  ???
[16:31] <Morrissey> ous: /boot/grub/menu.1st ... and "grub" command shell will help you do that ... you should read some howtos
[16:31] <coordinator> GuHHH, ln works?
[16:32] <GuHHH> coordinator: it says file exists, if i create it, if i dont, it cant
[16:32] <Morrissey> GuHHH, ln -s /var/run/mysqld/mysql.sock /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[16:32] <ous> Morrissey: would you recommend one?
[16:32] <Morrissey> ous, nope, I'm sure google will
[16:32] <Ange|us> helppppppppp
[16:32] <Ange|us> somebody can help me with this ? http://rafb.net/p/9LTnpS67.html
[16:33] <Morrissey> GuHHH, does it exist? what does "ln -s" in /var/run/mysql says?
[16:33] <ous> Morrissey: So what exactly would I be looking for?
[16:34] <Morrissey> ous, something like +seperate +boot +partition +after +install ?
[16:34] <Morrissey> and remember: +ubuntu gives you more aqurate hits
[16:34] <ous> Morrissey: thanks
[16:36] <CaseyIntern> my cdrom is mounting, but no files are showing up
[16:36] <Morrissey> Ange|us, geez ... that looks terrible ... looks like a bug in the compiler
[16:36] <Morrissey> CaseyIntern, where is it mounted? in konsole, go to /media/cdromX (where X is whatever X is there, if any) ... and check there
[16:37] <GuHHH> Morrissey: strangly it works now... lol :)
[16:37] <GuHHH> Morrissey: thanks
[16:37] <Morrissey> GuHHH, any time
[16:37] <GuHHH> i did: ln /chroot/mysql/mysql.sock /var/run/mysqld/
[16:38] <GuHHH> and ln -s /var/run/mysqld/mysql.sock /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[16:38] <Morrissey> GuHHH, ok ... it was probably the last one that did the trick :)
[16:38] <GuHHH> i tried it before, and it didnt work, strange. lol :D
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ok gents ...I see nosrednaekim is gone...here's my, /var/log/Xorg.0.log , http://www.pastebin.ca/750493...i can see that the fglrx 8.42 driver isn't loading , but i dunno why
[16:41] <harmental80> have anyone tried kde4?
[16:43] <Morrissey> BluesKaj, you have no (EE) right? That paste was huge :) Try to see if "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" says
[16:44] <BluesKaj> Morrissey, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[16:44] <Morrissey> harmental80, didn't work here for some reason ... it crashed at boot, but you can give it a go! remember to set it up as a an alternative
[16:45] <Morrissey> BluesKaj, then you have no errors ... give me "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" (give me the output that matters, ie: fgrlx, vesa ...)
[16:45] <coordinator> is there a way to set dolphin's default view to "details"?
[16:45] <harmental80> Morrissey: thx...do you know when will kde4 will finally arrive ?
[16:45]  * Morrissey thinks he started helping BluesKaj, but he doesn't know his problem even ;)
[16:45] <Morrissey> harmental80, pretty soon actually ... there's no deadline
[16:48] <BluesKaj> Morrissey, installed (or thought i did) the new ATI proprietary 8.42 driver on my x200g onboard graphics card , but it doesn't seem to be loading the driver and there's no way of implementing it in sys settings Monitor&Display
[16:48] <close2__> hello, I have installed ubuntu-server with software-raid and lvm2 on a machine
[16:49] <close2__> as the machine hangs when copying large data to a usb-storage device, i wanted to try my kubuntu-live cd gg
[16:49] <close2__> but I am unable to mount my raid1 lvm2 device
[16:49] <BluesKaj> Morrissey, anyway i have to go for a while ...plenty of leaves to rake ...BBL
[16:50] <close2__> I activated the raid1 with mdadm -A /dev/md1   which worked
[16:51] <close2__> but when I want to mount the /dev/md1 I get     mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[16:51] <Morrissey> close2__, is it ext3?
[16:51] <close2__> vgchange ROOT -a y      has warnings
[16:51] <close2__> yes it is
[16:52] <Morrissey> close2__, remember to set the filesystem as well ... (mount -t <ext3, ext2, ntfs ...) /dev/md1 /mount/to/dir
[16:52] <close2__> doesn't work
[16:52] <Morrissey> same error?
[16:52] <close2__> apparently lvm2 did add another header
[16:52] <close2__> wrong fs type...
[16:52] <Morrissey> oh, thats strange
[16:52] <Morrissey> use fdisk to confir
[16:52] <Morrissey> m
[16:53] <Morrissey> sudo "fdisk /dev/md1" and "p" and "enter" to check systems
[16:53] <close2__> well i googled and found out, that I have to active the lvm2 volume
[16:53] <close2__> (it is "mapped" via lvm2 to /dev/mapper/ROOTROOT
[16:53] <close2__> )
[16:53] <Morrissey> ok ..
[16:54] <close2__> but I can't activate:  /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found          Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?
[16:54] <skole> Anyone on DRM files?
[16:54] <Morrissey> close2__, you are not using dmraid?
[16:54] <close2__> I don't know, what is dmraid?
[16:54] <Morrissey> close2__, try: "sudo apt-get install dmraid | sudo dmraidy -ay" and see if it activates it
[16:55] <Morrissey> | = && ... sorry :)
[16:55] <skole> how to use DRM protected files anyone?
[16:55] <Morrissey> skole, you cant ... google it
[16:56] <skole> you shure?
[16:56] <Morrissey> yes
[16:56] <skole> thats a pity!
[16:56] <close2__> aptitude search raid      doesn't find anything
[16:56] <Morrissey> close2__, have you added multiverse?
[16:57] <Morrissey> in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[16:57] <skole> s there someone working with it
[16:57] <skole> ?
[16:57] <Morrissey> yeah, DVD-jon
[16:57] <mallize> can someone tell me how to get klipper to run on startup?
[16:57] <Morrissey> mallize, "ln -s /usr/bin/klipper /home/<username>/.kde/Autostart"
[16:58] <mallize> thanks
[16:58] <close2__> IIRC you could also save the session with klipper started
[16:58] <Morrissey> close2__, ok ... heres your guide. open /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # form the multiverse repo ... then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dmraid && sudo dmraid -ay" and tell me your output
[16:59] <close2__> Morrissey: No RAID disks
[16:59] <Morrissey> close2__, thats your output?
[16:59] <close2__> Morrissey: yes
[16:59] <close2__> but my raids seem to run already
[16:59] <close2__> it's the lvm2 layer that doesn't work
[17:00] <close2__> Morrissey: [ 1615.612000] raid1: raid set md1 active with 2 out of 2 mirrors
[17:00] <Morrissey> close2__, I see ... give me a minute, have an expert downstairs, hold on
[17:00] <close2__> thanks
[17:01] <arash> Hi, I'm new to compiling from sources, can any1 give me hinta or advices on how to do that, I was thinking of compiling LinuxDC++
[17:02] <Morrissey> close2__, sorry dude, he's not present ... Im using raid0, don't know how you would approach to activate lvm2 ..
[17:02] <close2__> arash: why do you want to compile it?
[17:03] <close2__> arash: there seems to be a deb-package somewhere: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193984
[17:03] <Morrissey> close2__, don't know what that means actually ... but anyways ..
[17:03] <arash> close2__: I want 1.0.0 :p, is it there?
[17:03] <close2__> arash: yes
[17:03] <skole> It looks like it is the linux people that don't want DRM to be supported. Thats stupid
[17:03] <close2__> Morrissey: i will try another live-cd
[17:03] <Morrissey> do that
[17:03] <close2__> Morrissey: and never again use lvm2
[17:04] <Morrissey> hehehe
[17:04] <Morrissey> its quite complex
[17:04] <arash> close2__: I can aswell follow those instruction with Kubuntu too, right?
[17:05] <Morrissey> arash, for furhter notice: "tar zxvf <file>.tar.gz && cd <file> && ./configure && make && sudo make install" ... that should get most programs compiled
[17:05] <close2__> arash: yes
[17:05] <poison---> anyone had issues with pentium d ?
[17:05] <poison---> after a clean alternative install, x doesnt boot saying my cpu frequency isnt supported
[17:06] <Morrissey> lol@poison--- ... its too low ... frequency<166mhz isnt supported :P
[17:06] <close2__> Morrissey: I just rerun vgchange ROOT..... and it worked, without error
[17:07] <close2__> Morrissey: it seems as if the first run didn't wait long enough for the module to get loaded
[17:07] <poison---> well, its a pentium d 2.8
[17:07] <Morrissey> close2__, oh .. should have though of that actually S:
[17:07] <poison---> it worked before with feisty
[17:07] <arash> close2__: hmm, Just wondering, If I want 1.0.0, they say I should go to getdeb.net right?
[17:07] <poison---> and even after the upgrade
[17:07] <Morrissey> poison---, I was just joking around :) lemme check for you
[17:07] <poison---> just wont work with the fresh install
[17:07] <poison---> weird
[17:07] <close2__> arash: yes, why?
[17:08] <arash> close2__: Ok, I remember being there before, but I didn't find any download executeables there..., does that site have the programs needed for installtion?
[17:09] <Morrissey> pointwood, you should check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17699.html
[17:09] <Morrissey> poison--- ... look up
[17:09] <Morrissey> that was for you
[17:09] <close2__> arash: wait a minute, brb
[17:10] <poison---> ty mate
[17:10] <The3055> une attaque ?
[17:10] <keda> there is a problem w/ my konqueror..
[17:11] <arash> keda, what's the problem then :) ?
[17:11] <keda> It doesn't display chinese correctly..
[17:11]  * Morrissey smiles
[17:11] <keda> :(
[17:12] <keda> it keep using fonts from japanese..
[17:12] <keda> while other browser's working fine..Opear, FIrefox.
[17:12] <keda> weired behavior..
[17:12] <close2__> arash: do you have gutsy or feisty?
[17:12] <keda> feisty..
[17:12] <arash> close2__: feisty
[17:12] <close2__> arash: 32 or 64 bit?
[17:12] <arash> close2__: or wait, 7.04, that feisty right?
[17:13] <arash> close2__: 32
[17:13] <keda> yes
[17:13] <close2__> arash: http://www.getdeb.net/download.php?release=1508&fpos=0
[17:13] <close2__> when you click on the link it should ask you, if you want to install the package
[17:14] <close2__> "open with the ??? package installer"
[17:14] <barbaros> hi guys
[17:14] <keda> what is the package?
[17:14] <close2__> keda:linuxdc++
[17:14] <barbaros> how can i wander about in kpdf documents opend in konqueoror using vim-like h j k l keys for going up and down
[17:14] <Morrissey> keda, try sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-zh
[17:14] <Morrissey> if its not there
[17:14] <barbaros> j and k if it's not possible they may be ctrl+j and ctrl+k too
[17:15] <arash> close2__: oh right, you hvae to download and then run (I use Firefox, though about switching to Konqueror though)
[17:15] <barbaros> is there a way to assign those keys to application specific shortcuts ?
[17:15] <keda> that will override my deafult interface?
[17:15] <Morrissey> keda, then it will let you know before installing
[17:16] <flake>  I want to make a couple of simple 3d games and don't know how to or deal with distributing source, just the binaries and media, is that possible as long as the user has decent opengl / video card drivers?
[17:16] <close2__> flake: what libraries are you using?  GLUT? sdl?
[17:17] <keda> akrus: what will linuxdcpp do?
[17:17] <jasonago> does kubuntu feisty run perl script out of the box?
[17:18] <arash> close2__: :thumbup:
[17:18] <Morrissey> jasonago, yes .. make sure that "perl" package is installed
[17:18] <keda> arash: what will linuxdcpp do?
[17:19] <close2__> jasonago: and the scripts need to have the execute-permissions
[17:19] <arash> keda: its a downloading program
[17:19] <jasonago> does the synaptic downloads the perl package from the net? or it is enabled by default?
[17:19] <close2__> arash: direct-connect?
[17:19] <arash> close2__: yea
[17:19] <Morrissey> jasonago, dont know actually .. try .. and close2__  is correct. make sure you "chmod u+x file" first
[17:19] <keda> arash:why would i need that?
[17:19] <keda> How does konqueror render the fonts?
[17:20] <close2__> keda: music (and AFAIK dc is very fast)
[17:20] <close2__> keda: if you are in the "right group"
[17:20] <arash> keda: I didn't say you need that ;)
[17:20] <keda> omg
[17:20] <flake> close2__ sorry, it's irrlicht
[17:20] <flake> engine and would have to set up special compile with library
[17:21] <close2__> flake: what's you goal? if you want people to just click install on a file, you need to find out, how to create a .deb file
[17:22] <close2__> flake: but there are many tutorials available
[17:22]  * Morrissey disappears ....
[17:23] <stdin> !ping
[17:23] <ubotu> pong
[17:23] <Ubotwo> pong
[17:24] <flake> kind of like openarena is, just unzip to a directory and run
[17:24]  * poison--- blown gutsy install for good
[17:24] <poison---> bah
[17:24] <flake> or untar
[17:24] <lord_hell> alguien conoce de un programa del tipo yakuake pero con transparencia real
[17:25] <poison---> !es
[17:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[17:25] <close2__> flake: I don't know the licence of irrlicht, but it should be possible to just compile the irrlicht engine statically
[17:26] <emilsedgh> my friend updated from feisty to gutsy, now he is getting File Not Found error on Grub
[17:27] <close2__> emilsedgh: when?
[17:27] <faruk_> merhaba
[17:27] <close2__> emilsedgh: can he use the grub-command-line?
[17:27] <aleks_> reinstala el grub
[17:27] <emilsedgh> close2__: last night
[17:28] <flake> so having a directory someone can just unzip onto home and run would be acceptable?
[17:28] <emilsedgh> i think so
[17:28] <close2__> emilsedgh: then go there, and type "find boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:28] <close2__> "
[17:29] <faruk_> hi
[17:29] <faruk_> turkis channel
[17:29] <faruk_> where
[17:29] <faruk_> or name is ?
[17:29] <stdin> !tr
[17:29] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[17:29] <emilsedgh> close2__: file not found
[17:30] <faruk_> thank you
[17:30] <close2__> emilsedgh: can you access the disk from within a live-cd
[17:30] <emilsedgh> close2__: with /boot/grub/menu.lst it said (hd0,7)
[17:31] <The3055> faruk_: hi
[17:32] <The3055> there is a comunitu of GNU/Linus in turkey
[17:32] <[ka]killer> hey
[17:32] <[ka]killer> any news on xine?
[17:32] <stdin> The3055: you use Linus? does he mind? :p
[17:32] <Mace68> hello ppl, having an issue compiling iscan-2.8.0 on gutsy 64-bit... error pastebined here: http://pastebin.ca/750549
[17:32] <lovre> does any1 know why i cant receive localized symbols in pidgin? I receive something like html mark instead
[17:33]  * n8k99 heard Linus loves being used
[17:33] <[ka]killer> =P
[17:33] <[ka]killer> =O
[17:33] <The3055> Sorry linux ..... :-)
[17:33] <[ka]killer> it might be working now
[17:33] <The3055> libxine-extracodecs
[17:33] <[ka]killer> audio is working
[17:33]  * [ka]killer trys video
[17:34] <faruk_> hi
[17:34] <faruk_> 3055
[17:34] <The3055> Boss
[17:34] <[ka]killer> dam
[17:34] <[ka]killer> xine is working for amarok now but still not kaffeine
[17:34] <The3055> ???
[17:35] <poison---> !boot
[17:35] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[17:35] <close2__> emilsedgh: sorry didn't see your message
[17:36] <emilsedgh> np, close2__, sorry i have to go now, i will be back in a few minutes
[17:36] <arash> Quick question: how do I find out my private IP?
[17:36] <LjL> arash: ifconfig
[17:37] <arash> LjL: It says commando not found...
[17:37] <sebastian^> hrm?
[17:37] <arash> wait
[17:37] <arash> :p
[17:37] <LjL> arash: you misspelled it.
[17:37] <arash> LjL: iFconfig, now who made up that name?
[17:38] <LjL> arash: network InterFace configuration
[17:38] <arash> Ah, makes sense I guess, I'm used to iPconfig ;)
[17:39] <luigi> i can t listen audio
[17:39] <andyt> hey, sun-java5-jdk is fubared in feisty - is there an easy way to just downgrade that package?
[17:39] <LjL> arash: which would be a misnomer, because ifconfig doesn't only deal with the IP protocol
[17:39] <stdin> !it
[17:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:39] <stdin> !codecs
[17:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:39] <chuso> luigi: you should clean your ears :D
[17:39] <Mace68> lol
[17:40] <stdin> andyt: helps if you say how it's "fubared"
[17:40] <NotWired> i just installed version 7.10 and the menus from the start option appear to be messed up
[17:40] <NotWired> is there any way to update them?
[17:41] <baro> catastrofe
[17:41] <baro> èèèèè
[17:41] <stdin> NotWired: maybe with "kbuildsycoca"
[17:41] <baro> questi sono i miei caratteti accentati
[17:41] <LjL> !it | baro
[17:41] <ubotu> baro: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:42] <NotWired> nope stdin, the kmenu is still messed up
[17:42] <baro> how i can config mine font to do accents
[17:42] <baro> ??
[17:42] <andyt> stdin - libawt.so is throwing errors about ia32 blah blah.
[17:42] <hellhound> is there a why to have a mouse button send a key combination?
[17:42] <baro> sorry
[17:43] <stdin> andyt: amd64?
[17:43] <baro> èèè
[17:43] <Morrissey_> hellhound, check out btnx (google it)
[17:43] <baro> this is my fonts
[17:43] <Morrissey_> hellhound, nice GUI setup
[17:43] <hellhound> Morrissey_: i could not get btnx to recognix my mouse (Logitech G5) :(
[17:44] <Morrissey_> hellhound, uh, it really should!
[17:44] <andyt> stdin:no 386
[17:44] <Morrissey_> its a common mouse .. so
[17:45] <stdin> andyt: try sun-java6-jre instead
[17:45] <stdin> *jdk
[17:45] <andyt> stdin: can't - need 5.
[17:45] <hellhound> Morrissey_: I thought so as well and their site said it did... but for some reason it still will not work... i have btnx  installed right now... but the autodetect sees nothing
[17:45] <baro> hallo i'm baro
[17:47] <LjL> baro: i see accented E
[17:48] <supert0nes> if only we were all so lucky
[17:48] <baro> why i don't view
[17:48] <LjL> baro: what font are you using?
[17:48] <baro> deja view
[17:49] <LjL> baro: dejavu you mean?
[17:49] <baro> yas
[17:49] <stdin> andyt: if it doesn't work (tho I don't know why), you can install from suns site http://java.sun.com/products/archive/
[17:50] <baro> do you view? èàò
[17:50] <LjL> baro: yes: e grave, a grave, o grave
[17:50] <baro> xxx
[17:50] <baro> thanks
[17:50] <poison---> is there a way to reset grub and fstab?
[17:51] <hellhound> i have another question.  Is there a way to drag and drop a url from firefox into dolphin or the desktop?
[17:52] <lovre> i get this error in pidgin, does any1 know why:  Conversion from ASCII failed: Invalid byte sequence in conversion input.
[17:52] <Mace68> hellhound, you might try http://deskcut.mozdev.org/
[17:55]  * abominius greetings
[17:57] <Caseyintern> hello all
[17:57] <Caseyintern> I need to delete a corrupted folder from the windows drive
[17:58] <Caseyintern> but I didn't get full read/write permissions or something
[17:59] <jpatrick> Caseyintern: ah, yes I know what you mean, but I haven't found a fix either
[17:59] <Caseyintern> crapness
[17:59] <Caseyintern> it's C:\windows\system32\config
[17:59] <jpatrick> maybe someone else knows..
[17:59] <Caseyintern> I need to delete it because it's corrupted
[17:59] <jpatrick> that folder will always be corrupt
[17:59] <Caseyintern> and replace it with the folder from the good drive
[18:00] <Caseyintern> that folder isn't corrupt on the good drive
[18:00] <close2__> Caseyintern: I suppose you have an ntfs file system
[18:00] <Caseyintern> yeah
[18:00] <close2__> Caseyintern: and it was mounted read-only with the ntfs driver (execute mount to find out)
[18:01] <hellhound> Mace68: Deskcut works great... not quite the same as drag n drop but it solved my issue.... THANKS
[18:01] <close2__> Caseyintern: in order to get write support you have to use the ntfs-3g driver
[18:01] <Xacarith> I have an issue even getting my one ntfs hard drive to mount  I'm being told it lacks the ntfs signature
[18:01] <close2__> Caseyintern: aptitude or apt-get install ntfs-3g
[18:02] <close2__> Caseyintern: do you know how to unmount and mount a drive?
[18:02] <Mace68> hellhound, np :)
[18:02] <Caseyintern> yeah
[18:02] <Caseyintern> I mounted the two drives on my own
[18:02] <Caseyintern> they say (rw) next to them
[18:02] <zorglu_> q. does gutsy have 'revamped/fixed' the cut/past on X/kde ? or is it still similar to feisty version ?
[18:02] <close2__> Caseyintern: mount the ntfs-drive with:  mount -t ntfs-3g .....
[18:02] <Caseyintern> also, ntfs-3g isn't a valid package :P
[18:03] <Bloodankh> hello, do you speak slovak or czech??
[18:03] <Bloodankh> hmm?
[18:03] <jpatrick> !cz
[18:03] <ubotu> České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[18:04] <close2__> Caseyintern: it should be.  Are you using a live-cd?
[18:04] <Bloodankh> ako sa mam pripojit do toho kanalu #ubuntu-cz??
[18:04] <close2__> Bloodankh: /join #ubuntu-cz
[18:04] <Caseyintern> yeah
[18:04] <Caseyintern> live cd
[18:04] <Caseyintern> I just thought of something
[18:04] <close2__> Caseyintern: gutsy? or feisty?
[18:04] <anto> Whats the channel for support at kde-loorg.org?
[18:05] <Caseyintern> neither
[18:05] <Caseyintern> edgy xD
[18:05] <BonesolTeraDyne> anto: you mean kde-look.org?
[18:05] <close2__> Caseyintern: that might be the reason.. ;)
[18:05] <Caseyintern> I'm going to do something epic, I'll be back later if it doesn't work
[18:05] <Caseyintern> wish me luck
[18:06] <Kachna> how can i list pertition ids? :-)
[18:06] <DarkWizzard> help me
[18:06] <DarkWizzard> upgraded to gutsy
[18:06] <DarkWizzard> and it looks really bad
[18:06] <anto> BonesolTeraDyne: yes
[18:06] <emilsedgh> close2__: i tried to do update-grub on his system, now im getting kernel panic
[18:06] <DarkWizzard> lost direct rendering
[18:06] <DarkWizzard> and i think it's running XGL
[18:06] <BonesolTeraDyne> anto: I don't think there is one. It's not on this server, anyway.
[18:06] <DarkWizzard> how can I switch to my normal xserver ?
[18:07] <anto> I cannot manage to install the korex theme !
[18:07] <anto> when i added the theme to theme manager nothing happend
[18:07] <close2__> emilsedgh: what's the panic?
[18:08] <emilsedgh> not syncing: attempted to kill init: close2__
[18:08] <BonesolTeraDyne> anto: sounds like a bad download, or a bad theme. Maybe you should leave a comment on the theme's page. The author might not know about the problem.
[18:09]  * Xacarith tries installing some ntfs tools....
[18:09] <anto> BonesolTeraDyne: tons of people are using it i dont see what so specialt with my computy
[18:09] <BonesolTeraDyne> anto: mind giving a link to the theme? I'll try it on my PC.
[18:09] <anto> BonesolTeraDyne: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KORE+Reviving?content=65266
[18:10] <Xacarith> is there any way to set which sound card kde uses?  It was using one before now it seems to be trying to use the other.  I have no system sounds but my programs still have sounds
[18:11] <frojnd1> Hello there. I need to get this: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`   BUT since I don't have internet it needed to be .deb file. my kernel version is: 2.16.20-15-heneric  This is for feisty.  Can anyone get me this .deb ??
[18:11] <anto> BonesolTeraDyne: is says somthing about a modifiedKore.profile but i dont have one :S
[18:11] <close2__> emilsedgh: sorry, don't know how to fix that
[18:12] <lovre> i have a problem.... i plug in my usb memory, and i cant acces it. Usually it appears on desktop but not now. Why cant i see it?
[18:13] <sparrw> how can i change the style of the K menu?  background, shape, arrangement, orientation, etc
[18:13] <BonesolTeraDyne> Ah, compiz-fusion. I can't install it. My computer crashes any time I use Compiz\Bery\Fusion.
[18:13] <CaseyIntern> yeah, can't find package
[18:15] <smorg> hey wasn't compiz going to come preinstalled with gusty? or did they change their minds about that?
[18:15] <jpatrick> smorg: not in Kubuntu
[18:15] <CaseyIntern> what is the package name for the NTFS read-write file system driver
[18:16] <smorg> aah
[18:16] <CaseyIntern> ?
[18:16] <smorg> is it considered stable enough for everyday use yet?
[18:16] <smorg> !ntfs
[18:16] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[18:16] <DarkWizzard> how can I check if AIGLX is enabled ?
[18:17] <Biblio14> Hello, I have Kubuntu 7.10 on VMWare 6 but can not switch into the correct fullscreen mode. It should be 1600x1200, but resolution of Kubuntu is everytime 1680x1050. When I change it in the system settings, there is no effect.
[18:17] <smorg> got vmware tools installed?
[18:18] <Biblio14> No, sorry... :-) I will do this now...
[18:18] <expreso> ayudaaaaaaaa alguien que hable español
[18:18] <smorg> I think its needed to integrate resolutions properly
[18:18] <smorg> guest drivers are a must for speed ^^
[18:18] <sparrw> is compiz-fusion ready for kde in gutsy yet?
[18:19] <smorg> @sparrw: I was just looking into it last night
[18:19] <sparrw> or should i stick with beryl?
[18:19] <smorg> I think it will run but is still beta software
[18:19] <smorg> apparantly it comes with ubuntu but not kubuntu package
[18:19] <anto> Any luck?
[18:20]  * Xacarith keeps getting this  'NTFS signature is missing.'
[18:20] <Xacarith> trying ot run th entfs-config
[18:23] <redheat> hi everyone
[18:23] <ubunturos> !hi | redheat
[18:23] <ubotu> redheat: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:23] <redheat> hi how're you doing guys..
[18:24] <anto> Can anyone help me install the kore theam??????????++
[18:28] <Xacarith> Well I now have a new error  The system reported: ntfs-3g: Cannot mount '<devuce>': No such file or directory
[18:31] <Morrissey> Xacarith, what are you trying to do?
[18:32] <Xacarith> mount an 80G hdd formated in ntfs by windows xp
[18:32] <Morrissey> ok. did you "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<device> /dir/to/mount/point/"
[18:34]  * Xacarith has been trying to use gui tools like  mount point editor which worked on the main windows os hdd
[18:37] <Morrissey> Xacarith, you have to tell me what you typed, and exacly wich device your trying to mount ... otherwize I cant help you
[18:40] <hellhound> can anyone assist me with btnx?  for some reason it is not seeing my mouse, yet the site shows that it has been supported for quite some time
[18:41]  * Xacarith was trying to work with programs before and skip the terminal window which he can't even get to open in kde with out a fight  "Well I tried to run mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/dev/sdc1/media/storage/
[18:41] <Xacarith> which seems not to have been right
[18:41]  * Xacarith is new to linux
[18:43] <Morrissey> Xacarith, stop refeering to yourself in 3.person ... thats just annoying. I can see you are new to linux. Your problem is you have to have space between "sdc1" and "/media/storage" ... your command should be EXACLY like this: "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1/ /media/storage" (dont know why you tried /dev/dev/) ...
[18:44] <Xacarith> I'm not use to using the commands yet
[18:44] <Morrissey> Xacarith, then do it ... press "alt - f2" and type that command
[18:44] <Morrissey> hellhound, still stuck on that huh ... let me give it a second go, just a sec
[18:44] <Xacarith> failed  Invalid argument  The device does not have a valid ntfs
[18:45] <hellhound> Morrissey: Thank you
[18:45] <Morrissey> Xacarith, google it ... hellhound, hold on
[18:46] <Morrissey> hellhound, it was a G5 mouse?
[18:46] <savetheWorld> Anyone know where i can get xwait for kubuntu?
[18:46] <Xacarith> Sounds to me like linux is no recognizing the ntfs system for some reason...
[18:47] <savetheWorld> !xwait
[18:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwait - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:47] <Xacarith> I could just format it in linux
[18:47] <MarcC_> is it better to accept new config file overwrite, or keep existing?
[18:47] <lovre> my USB flash wont auto mount.... any ideas?
[18:47] <hellhound> Morrissey: Yes usb... and "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" does recognize it using usb as well
[18:47] <lovre> !automount
[18:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:47] <TimS> !mythtv
[18:47] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[18:47] <Morrissey> Xacarith, ok do that ... type "sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdc1" this will format sdc1 as NTFS
[18:47] <cristian> comunidadkubuntu
[18:47] <lovre> !usb
[18:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:47] <Morrissey> hellhound, can you see it in lsusb?
[18:48] <Morrissey> Xacarith, and are you 100% sure that sdc1 is the one you want to format as ntfs??!? usually, this is the ext3 filesystem ... let me know your "df -h" and see if hc1 is not ext3 or any other linux partition
[18:48] <Morrissey> hellhound, give me you relevant output of "lsusb"
[18:49] <MarcC-backroom> on the upgrade page for Feisty -> Gutsy, which "steps 1,2,3" do I repeat?
[18:49] <cristian> kubuntu-es
[18:49] <hellhound> Morrissey: yes "Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:c041 Logitech, Inc.
[18:49] <MarcC-backroom> there are two sets of numbers :S
[18:50] <Morrissey> hellhound, btnx should Deffinatly recognize that ...
[18:51] <Morrissey> hellhound, can you paste you "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" somwhere?
[18:51] <Xacarith> Yes  The way it's laid out, sda1 is the primary master which contains XP  sdb* is the primary slave wich has linux on it   sdc1 is the 80G which I'm fighting with
[18:51] <Xacarith> It's set as the secondary slave
[18:51] <Morrissey> Xacarith, ok ... then reformat it as I told you earlier: press "alt + f2" and type: "sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdc1"
[18:52] <Morrissey> Xacarith, if you don't have any important imformation on it
[18:52] <Morrissey> sorry
[18:52] <frojnd1> When I try to make uninnstall I get some note: NOTE: Not all installed files are removed, as different distributions install  Run uninstall as many times as necessary until no "removing" messages appear below.  What does this mean than I have to run sudo make uninnstall to infinity ??
[18:52] <Morrissey> Xacarith, press "alt-f2" and "konsole" and then "sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdc1"
[18:52] <hellhound> Morrissey: that was my thought... there is a part on the ubuntu forums where the developer asks people to run it through command "sudo ./btnx" and i get "uinput modprobed successfully.    Could not read the config file: No such file or directory     Error: configuration file error."
[18:52] <Morrissey> hellhound, oh
[18:53] <Morrissey> hellhound, then its not your mouse, its actually btnx
[18:53] <hellhound> Morrissey: I did not see any errors during the ./configure, make or make install and I have uninstalled and reinstalled a few times as well
[18:54] <Morrissey> hellhound, try: "sudo a+r /etc/btnx/btnx_config"
[18:54] <Morrissey> and try again
[18:54] <Morrissey> sorry
[18:54] <Morrissey> !wait
[18:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wait - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:54] <Morrissey> hellhound, try "sudo u+r /etc/btnx/btnx_config" there ...
[18:54] <cristian> Anybody speak spanish here?
[18:55] <Morrissey> hellhound, actually :P hehe ... do a "sudo u+rw /etc/btnx/btnx_config"
[18:55] <joseph__> alittle
[18:55]  * Morrissey thinks he had some beers while watching diggnation ...
[18:55] <Xacarith> well it's there even if it's not showing up as in the storage media  Least I can get to it
[18:56] <hellhound> Morrissey: "sudo: u+rw: command not found"
[18:56] <Morrissey> hellhound, actually :P hehe ... do a "chmod sudo u+rw /etc/btnx/btnx_config"
[18:56] <Morrissey> sorry bout that
[18:57] <CPrompt^> shouldn't that be "sudo chmod u+rw /etc/btnx/btnx_confi"???
[18:57] <Morrissey> hellhound, ok ... lets to this for the last time :P "sudo chmod u+r /etc/btnx/btnx_config" <--- that should be it ...
[18:57] <CPrompt^> LOL
[19:00] <hellhound> Morrissey: LOL yeah I realized what you were trying to do... my btnx is installed in my home folder, not in /etc and the only files i have labeled "btnx_config" are "btnx_config.Po", "btnx_config.c", and "btnx_config.o" all three found through a system wide slocate
[19:01] <cristian> I cant upgrade kubuntu 7.10 to kubuntu 7.10....I don't know why.....
[19:02] <genii> cristian: You mean 7.04 to 7.10 or ubuntu 7.10 to Kubuntu 7.10 ?
[19:03] <cristian> I have kubuntu 7.10
[19:04] <genii> cristian: Since 7.10 is latest there is no further upgrade available. Unless you mean the update manager or something is not working
[19:04] <cristian> genii: and my kubuntu 7.10 say: Upgrade to kubuntu 7.10?
[19:04] <hellhound> Morrissey: ahhh i see from the README fiel that it is supposed to install a configuration file in /etc/btnx/btnx_config" regardless of programs installation path.... i wonder why it does not exist.. i see a /etc/btnx/events file... but not btnx_config
[19:04] <genii> Ah, OK
[19:05] <genii> cristian: In your file /etc/apt/sources.list does it say feisty or gutsy ?
[19:05] <cristian> genii: gutsy
[19:05] <mao42> Hello Kubuntu. I'm running regular Ubuntu, but I need to know where Qt 4 installs to, because I keep getting wrong qmake version errors when making QMC.
[19:05] <mao42> And I was linked this channel
[19:06] <cristian> genii: When start my upgrade, i have a error...
[19:07] <genii> cristian: what does command:   lsb_release -a  sya?
[19:07] <genii> *say?
[19:08] <genii> cristian: Also the error it gives when you try to upgrade may be useful
[19:08] <Rise_Against> i have a problem with alsa.. amarok says that there's a problem with xine audio drivers
[19:08] <cristian> genii: say: Your system is upgrade....and dont have upgrade for my distribution
[19:09] <cristian> genii: yeah
[19:09] <Rise_Against> and: cat /proc/asound/cards says: --- no soundcards ---
[19:09] <genii> cristian: Well, that is not an error, only a message which is not to worry over.
[19:10] <genii> cristian: If command: lsb_release -a               reports that you have 7.10 it is fine
[19:10] <cristian> genii: aaaaa ok
[19:11] <Rise_Against> genii: can you help me please?
[19:11] <cristian> genii: ok...wait..
[19:11] <CPrompt^> genii : wasn't there a problem where after an upgrade, adept still said that there were updates available?
[19:12] <cristian> genii: say this:
[19:12] <cristian> No LSB modules are available.
[19:12] <cristian> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[19:12] <cristian> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[19:12] <cristian> Release:        7.10
[19:12] <cristian> Codename:       gutsy
[19:12] <genii> CPrompt^: Yes, possibly. Though I have not yet had to deal with it, so a first for me in that.
[19:13] <genii> Rise_Against: Soundcards/sound issues are not a subject I am very familiar with. someone else will be a better choice to choose for helping you.
[19:13] <cristian> genii: I think it's ok or not?
[19:13] <hellhound> Morrissey: you still there?
[19:13] <CPrompt^> cristian : what version of Kubuntu did you have before you upgraded?
[19:13] <genii> cristian: OK. In konsole, do:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:14] <mm_marian> hello; I have a problem with Eclipse; I've installed it, purge it, delete /usr/lib/eclipse, reinstall it and doesn't work because it need startup.jar and I don't know what to do to reinstall it properly; any idea???
[19:15] <cristian> genii: kubuntu 7.10
[19:15] <mm_marian> yes
[19:16] <pedro> salut
[19:16] <pedro> oui bien sur
[19:16] <genii> cristian: If you do the command-line way of: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                   this is a bit better than just upgrade. Adept may clear up the message afterwards.
[19:17] <cristian> genii: I dont have problem....
[19:20] <hellhound> Morrissey: I restarted my computer just in case... still no luck
[19:21] <lucent85> irc://irc.darksin.net/atl_revenge
[19:21] <cristian> genii: thanks man...
[19:23] <slow-motion> hallo
[19:25] <alexey__> Q: How to establish netword between my PDA and workstaion? (thru bluetooth)
[19:29] <frojnd1> Hey guys: I've installed ubuntu feisty and followd the instructions for installing windows driver for my Broadcon Dell wireless 1390 card. But when I rebooted compter in network manager is no wireless option. Just like it would dissaper. Has anyone any idea how can I fix this?  note: I only have wireless network and one comp is working and laptop isn't.
[19:30] <sirajuddin> Hi
[19:30] <sirajuddin> new lniux user
[19:30] <sirajuddin> i downlaoded kubuntu
[19:30] <sirajuddin> 7.10
[19:30] <sirajuddin> but the live CD freezes after start up
[19:30] <sirajuddin> and the taskbar items don't appear
[19:31] <sirajuddin> this happens on two laptops i have
[19:31] <sirajuddin> and the desktop the taskbar items appear
[19:31] <NickPresta> sirajuddin, have you checked the CD for defects (as per the option at boot up)?
[19:31] <sirajuddin> but clicking freezes the system
[19:31] <sirajuddin> yes I have
[19:31] <sirajuddin> it keeps going
[19:31] <sirajuddin> without any response
[19:31] <poison---> sirajuddin, try disable ACPI
[19:31] <sirajuddin> how do i do that
[19:32] <poison---> edit the startup line
[19:32] <poison---> !boot
[19:32] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[19:32] <sirajuddin> I am a newbie to linux. All i have done is GUI installs. No idea about commands
[19:33] <poison---> go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:33] <sirajuddin> thanks
[19:33] <lee986321> well i have successfully got compiz to run with out the ati drivers installed
[19:33] <lee986321> bur its on the 32 bit lol
[19:33] <sirajuddin> so is it only personal preference between kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[19:34] <poison---> try this: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash noapic
[19:34] <poison---> with the correct kernel version
[19:34] <lee986321> hi ya genii
[19:34] <poison---> with: acpi=off OR noacpi
[19:34] <sirajuddin> try this: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash noapic | u said that to me? Lee?
[19:35] <poison--->  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash noacpi
[19:35] <poison---> there
[19:37] <frojnd1> Hey guys: I've installed ubuntu feisty and followd the instructions for installing windows driver for my Broadcon Dell wireless 1390 card. But when I rebooted compter in network manager is no wireless option. Just like it would dissaper. Has anyone any idea how can I fix this?  note: I only have wireless network and one comp is working and laptop isn't.
[19:37] <frojnd1> Is there a way that I can update and than upgrade system offline ?    I really need updates so I can establish wireless network....
[19:37] <wastedfluid> fo
[19:37] <wastedfluid> frojnd1:
[19:37] <poison---> !ndiswrapper
[19:37] <wastedfluid> It's probably because ndiswrpaper isn't loaded.  type "sudo ndiswrapper -l" in a terminal and tell me what it shows
[19:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:38] <lee986321> Use fiesty fawn
[19:38] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, driver installed device (14E$:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[19:38] <wastedfluid> frojnd1: Most of the time, if you don't blacklist the driver that didn't work for you - it'll continue to be loaded...
[19:38] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, i have blacklisted bcm43xx
[19:39] <wastedfluid> Ok.  do this, just in case:  sudo rmmod bcm42xx
[19:39] <wastedfluid> and then try a : sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[19:39] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, ive followed this how to: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/19/get-wi-fi-working-on-dell-inspiron-1501-with-ubuntu/
[19:39] <wastedfluid> let me read it
[19:39] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, I made a fresh install of feisty
[19:39] <lee986321> eh i just don't try to load  the drivers any more :(, and compiz is workin great on my system..thouh its in 32 bit mode
[19:39] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, and after this how to there is no wireless option in my network manager
[19:40] <wastedfluid> frojnd1: What driver does ndiswrapper -l say is loaded?  From what you typed, it was everything except th driver
[19:40] <wastedfluid> it should say (drivername): driver installed
[19:40] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, bcmwl15 : driver installed
[19:40] <Doobeh> and run 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[19:40] <wastedfluid> Ok; so bcmwl15 was the driver you wanted to load.. right?
[19:41] <frojnd1> Doobeh, ndiswrapper is loaded
[19:41] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, correct
[19:41] <wastedfluid> Well.. I don't know what to tell you bud.
[19:41] <Doobeh> can you see it when you try iwconfig?
[19:41] <wastedfluid> Did you match up lspci's numbers:numbers for your specific card?  I know you followed a how to, but sometimes people message up.
[19:42] <frojnd1> Doobeh, sorry driver wasn't loaded :S
[19:42] <wastedfluid> ......lol
[19:42] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, what do u mean?
[19:43] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, Doobeh I thought it loads automatically..
[19:43] <Doobeh> nah, its can do, but you need to set that up
[19:43] <Doobeh> its/it
[19:43] <wastedfluid> frojnd1: Sometimes it'll load automatically, sometimes it won't..  I blacklisted my old driver, and I edited my 'networking' init.d to modprobe ndiswrapper
[19:43] <limex> Anyone had any problem upgrading to Gutsy ? The installer keep disappearing. Anyone has the same problem ?
[19:43] <Doobeh> so you're all sorted now wastedfluid?
[19:43] <wastedfluid> I didn't have any problems.
[19:43] <wastedfluid> I was helping frojnd1...
[19:43] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, Doobeh what's next ?
[19:43] <frojnd1> :)
[19:44] <Doobeh> hehe
[19:44] <Doobeh> :)
[19:44] <wastedfluid> frojnd1: If the driver wasn't loaded, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[19:44] <Doobeh> I'm easily confused..
[19:44] <lee986321> mmm, i loaded from a down loaded disk
[19:44] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, done
[19:44] <wastedfluid> Ok
[19:44] <wastedfluid> Now, try to connect
[19:44] <wastedfluid> if it works, you'll probably want to edit your networking init.d script to 'modprobe ndiswrapper'
[19:44] <luca> hi everyone
[19:44] <wastedfluid> that's what I've always done
[19:45] <wastedfluid> hi luca
[19:45] <luca> I do have to connect to a hidden wpa2 network. How would I make my box identify them and connect automatically? I have already set up knetworkmanager to connect
[19:45] <luca> hi wastedfluid
[19:45] <wastedfluid> i've never connected to a hidden network.. so I dunno what to tell you
[19:45] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, it doesn't connect :s
[19:46] <wastedfluid> frojnd1: Are you sure it's your card?  Sometimes,  I have to reset my router.
[19:46] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, but if I type route there are some nubers I can see router
[19:46] <wastedfluid> I can rmmod ndiswrapper, and modprobe ndiswrapper.. and it still won't connect.  I have to unplug my router, and plug it back up.. and it seems to work.
[19:46] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, just a sec I'll paste output of card and what driver I've grabed
[19:47] <wastedfluid> Well, I don't know what driver you need.  IF you're following that tuturoial - it's probably the right driver.  Try resetting your router.
[19:47] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, i followed just for installing and loading
[19:48] <frojnd1> I have drifferent card
[19:48] <wastedfluid> .........
[19:48] <wastedfluid> Oh man.
[19:48] <wastedfluid> Ok, let me get you the right tutorial.
[19:48]  * Doobeh rolls wastedfluid a cookie
[19:48] <wastedfluid> thanks. :-)
[19:49] <soon> Does anyone here have a PDA which syncs well with Korganizer / Kontact etc ??
[19:49] <wastedfluid> frojnd1: Go to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,installation/ - Look for the "Install Windows Driver" part.. and just do the part to look up your lspci output for the corresponding windows driver that someone has tested+verified.
[19:55] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, I have this card: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42275/   and for it this driver: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&releaseid=R151517&SystemID=INSPIRONI6400/E1505&servicetag=&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=9805&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=9&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=5&fileid=202136   and on that page u gave me there is something about alternate driver when I do ndiswrapper -l so I have to
[19:55] <frojnd1>  fix this. But driver is the right one
[19:55] <wastedfluid> I don't see what you're saying.
[19:55] <wastedfluid> What kind of card you have?
[19:56] <SlimG> Is there a picasa alternative based on KDE ?
[19:56] <SlimG> One that atleast can upload to picasa galleries?
[19:59] <wastedfluid> Ok.  I acutally clicked your links. lol
[19:59] <wastedfluid> frojnd1: Try "lspci -n | grep 0b:00.0"
[19:59] <wastedfluid> That should return the correction number for you.
[20:00] <wastedfluid> And you search that number on the ndiswrapper site for the correct driver.
[20:02] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, 14e4:4311 (rev 01) nothing found
[20:02] <frojnd1> :s
[20:04] <kaminix> When installing Skype I want the non-static
[20:04] <kaminix> right?
[20:05] <SlimeyPete> as a rule, static packages are more likely to work
[20:05] <SlimeyPete> dunno about skype though
[20:05] <Rise_Against> hey there! i got no sound and amarok says: "XINE was unable to initialize any audio-drivers "
[20:05] <poison---> apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[20:06] <poison---> or: add/remove programs, search for kubuntu restricted
[20:06] <Rise_Against> is installed
[20:06] <Rise_Against> xine bug report: load_plugins: failed to load audio output plugin <alsa>
[20:07] <Rise_Against> no soundcard detected oO
[20:07] <poison---> audio is not installed mate
[20:07] <poison---> :D
[20:07] <Rise_Against> it worked before but with problems
[20:08] <Rise_Against> then i wanted to get front out/input working and now nothing is alive here :s
[20:10] <_Angelus_> why can't i install and i386 package on kubuntu amd64?
[20:10] <vzduch> because it's a different architecture
[20:10] <argyris> how can i install amsn? can anyone help
[20:11] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install amsn
[20:11] <_Angelus_> vzduch: so? linux can run 32bi programs on 64bit arch
[20:11] <_Angelus_> why kubuntu can't?
[20:11] <barbaros> is there a way to copy my kubuntu dvd to somewhere in my hard drive so that i dont have to  insert my installation dvd into dvd tray all the time when i try to install some program with apt-get ?
[20:11] <_Angelus_> barbaros: dont use the cd . download packages from the net :p
[20:12] <barbaros> ???
[20:12] <barbaros> _Angelus_:
[20:12] <barbaros> ?
[20:12] <vzduch> !sourceomatic
[20:12] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[20:12] <oxywolf> HI!
[20:12] <oxywolf> Hallo?
[20:12] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[20:13] <oxywolf> i jus installed kubuntu in my computer
[20:13] <oxywolf> i love it
[20:13] <alexey> Q: I have an usb bluetooth receiver, how to make it work?
[20:13] <argyris> thnx vz
[20:13] <frojnd1> wastedfluid, or anyone is this the latest version of ndiswrapper-utils http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fn%2Fndiswrapper%2Fndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.38-1ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=e8876c665294254b55b32c02f629ac78&arch=i386&type=main   ???
[20:13] <vzduch> !bluetooth | alexey
[20:13] <ubotu> alexey: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[20:13] <alexey> many thanx
[20:14] <Tm_T> !fi | oxywolf
[20:14] <ubotu> oxywolf: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[20:14] <oxywolf> if haves google mail, how to use it with kopete??
[20:14] <vzduch> oxywolf: since when is Kopete a mail client?
[20:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> probably google talk
[20:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> which is jabber, i believe
[20:15] <Tm_T> it is
[20:15] <oxywolf> Ok i go in finnish kubuntu server, good bye! but, thanks!
[20:15] <Tm_T> oxywolf: feel free to join finnish channels, easier to explain ;)
[20:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> set up your google account as a jabber account
[20:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[20:15] <Tm_T> oxywolf: and no you dont need to change any server
[20:15] <snikker> how con i configure compuz effects with gui?
[20:16] <oxywolf> OH no it doesent work
[20:16] <oxywolf> that finnish
[20:16] <Tm_T> oxywolf: /j #kubuntu-fi
[20:17] <Tm_T> in this very same network
[20:18] <oxywolf> Bye i have to go!
[20:18] <Tm_T> hei hei
[20:18] <Indust> HI all,  there is a problem with the xorg.conf in gibbon ... somehow i cannot run an external screen on my laptop anymore ( worked in feisty very well )...
[20:19] <Tm_T> hej bicikli
[20:19] <Indust> i really need help
[20:19] <graelb> Anyone know how to set the directdraw renderer for wine to opengl?
[20:19] <graelb> I'm having issues running KOTOR2
[20:20] <Tm_T> graelb: hum, about KOTOR2...
[20:20] <Tm_T> graelb: The Sith Lords Restoration Project will have release soon
[20:20] <graelb> eh? for linux?
[20:20] <Tm_T> no
[20:21] <Tm_T> but it "fixes" the game
[20:21] <Tm_T> graelb: polishes raw diamond
[20:22] <graelb> Oh... well, ok, the real issue i'm having is that in the "hardware scan" it says i don't have any Vram (ok.... right,) and that i need a non-windows openGL 1.4.0 drivers required
[20:22] <graelb> lol i have no idea what you mean by polishes raw diamond btw Tm_T
[20:22] <Tm_T> graelb: yup, dont know about that, sorry :(
[20:22] <graelb> bummer... alright then =)
[20:22] <Tm_T> graelb: KOTOR2 was released very crippled, they cut half of the story
[20:22] <MarcC-backroom> ok, problems during Gutsy upgrade with X11-common and debconf - anybody see this before? I got messages about a segfault.
[20:23] <graelb> eh.
[20:23] <Tm_T> graelb: so, bunch of fans reimplement it
[20:23] <Tm_T> and fix lots of bugs too
[20:23] <graelb> i played through it on my xbox a while back, but i'd like to go through it again, i just can't even get it running on wine
[20:23]  * graelb nods
[20:23] <graelb> understood there
[20:23] <graelb> it seemed a little... choppy for a sequal
[20:23] <Tm_T> yup
[20:24] <Tm_T> because of rushing to christmas market, so they had to let very much unfinished and cut out
[20:24] <Tm_T> graelb: http://www.team-gizka.org/
[20:24] <MarcC-backroom> ack, upgrade seems to have frozen :-/
[20:24] <graelb> huh. Did they add to the actual gameplay? IE, change the system around closer to the first game?
[20:25] <Tm_T> graelb: well they cant do that
[20:25] <Tm_T> but enough of this offtopic :(
[20:25] <graelb> lol fair enough!
[20:25] <Tm_T> graelb: #kubuntu-offtopic if more on this
[20:25] <MarcC-backroom> what do I do if I need to quit the upgrade to Gutsy while it's installing upgrades?
[20:25] <MarcC-backroom> it's frozen
[20:25] <graelb> hehe it's alright, i'm more interested in getting it to run period, but thanks =)
[20:25] <jtt> pray
[20:26]  * MarcC-backroom has got to pray, just to make it today
[20:26] <Tm_T> graelb: sorry I cant help with Wine issue, I really dont use it
[20:26] <frojnd1> How can I untar a file if the extension is: *.tar.gz.tar ?
[20:26] <ubuntu_> hello
[20:26] <graelb> It's alright, no big deal. Do you dual boot with windows to run win games? TM_T?
[20:27] <frojnd1> or tar..
[20:27] <vzduch> frojnd1: untar
[20:27] <Tm_T> graelb: well I dont really do games either, but I do have XP for work (and some rare games when have time)
[20:27] <graelb> Got you *nods*
[20:27] <Tm_T> graelb: but I play ET in Linux in time to time
[20:27] <graelb> i've got it dual booted on here, but it's running vista, so it's not quite as quick as ubuntu would run
[20:28] <graelb> Tm_T:  what's ET?
[20:28] <jtt> frojnd1, first try  tar -ztvf  filename   to see if it does anything
[20:28] <frojnd1> , how can I uncompressed it if it's *.tar
[20:28] <Tm_T> graelb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnemyTerritory
[20:28] <Tm_T> now off ->
[20:29] <jtt> frojnd1, gunzip
[20:29] <graelb> hehe thanks
[20:29] <MarcC-backroom> how do I unlock apt once I quit an upgrade?
[20:30] <vzduch> !aptfix
[20:30] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:30] <frojnd1> jtt, looks like its . *.tar.gz.tar :S
[20:30] <yml> Hello goodevening
[20:31] <MarcC-backroom> oh crap vzduch, now it started upgrading a bunch of stuff in the terminal window where I issued that command :-(
[20:31] <yml> Does someone know how to get the list of wifi network from the applet in kubuntu?
[20:32]  * MarcC-backroom is left with a 1% gutsy upgrade
[20:32] <MarcC-backroom> f-u-d-g-e
[20:32] <MarcC-backroom> yml, mine gives a list when you click on it
[20:32] <yml> iwlist eth1 scanning list a lot of network
[20:33] <yml> MarcC-backroom   : it was on the live CD and also before I settup eth0 (ethernet)
[20:34] <yml> MarcC-backroom  : So I guess I have modify something that I should not have touch  :-)
[20:34] <redheat> hi folks..just little help here
[20:35] <redheat> I just installed ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbon on my new DELL XPS 1330m
[20:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> nobodies here today
[20:38]  * Ace2016 wants to know the rest of readheat's story
[20:39] <MarcC-backroom> redheat, did you have a question?
[20:39] <yml> does someone has some understanding of knetworkmanager?
[20:45] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how come my dang internet is gonig to slow
[20:45] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i have really fast internet connection
[20:46] <Rise_Against> heelp :( soundcard is not listed in cat /proc/asound/cards
[20:46] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Rise_Against:  what sound card do you have
[20:47] <Op3r> cant wait for the kde4
[20:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Op3r: well your going to have to
[20:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> :]
[20:47] <Op3r> I hope its worth the migration from ubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop
[20:47] <atlfalcons866> is kde4 stable enough to use
[20:48] <Op3r> atlfalcons866, its not yet even released I think
[20:48] <jpatrick> atlfalcons866: see planet.kde.org :)
[20:48] <yml> I am sorry I was cut off
[20:48] <yml> does someone has an idea of how to get back the list of wifi network with knetworkmanager ?
[20:49] <Op3r> unless you are adventurous but me I am using my laptop for work :(
[20:51] <yml> test
[20:52] <Op3r> 1 2 1 2
[20:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Op3r: it is worth the migration to kubuntu i used ubuntu before and i got bored quick but ever since i installed kubuntu-desktop ive been more then pleased
[20:53] <Op3r> AT0M1CB0MB3R, the only thing i hate is the big borders :(
[20:54] <Op3r> I want it looking sleek
[20:54] <heretic43> HEllo! Anyone suceeded in talking with a Nokis (6070) over a serial/usb cable with (k)ubuntu dapper/gutsy?
[20:54] <Op3r> care to suggest how to?
[20:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Op3r: where?
[20:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ill show you my desktop
[20:54] <Op3r> ok
[20:54] <Op3r> please
[20:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i think youll like
[20:57] <kbrooks> Question
[20:57] <ubuntu> can anyone tell me how i can play a .MPG with Kubuntu^
[20:57] <heretic43> Keywords: Ubuntu, usb/serial, Nokia, communicate. Solutions? :-)
[20:58] <kbrooks> how do you install a package with Kubuntu?
[20:58] <vzduch> !multimedia | Tiltation
[20:58] <ubotu> Tiltation: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[20:58] <NickPresta> !adept | kbrooks
[20:58] <ubotu> kbrooks: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[20:58] <kbrooks> NickPresta, ty
[20:58] <heretic43> kbr>Kmenu -> System -> Synaptic
[20:59] <kbrooks> heretic43, thats nnot on by default
[20:59] <heretic43> kbr> Ah... old habit. Follow the Adept advise.
[21:00] <Tiltation> ubotu i have ubuntu 7.
[21:00] <Tiltation> 04 but all the player doesnt want to play Mpg
[21:00] <scienceboy> quick question - how do you get a complete list of packages installed assembled in a .txt file?
[21:00] <NickPresta> scienceboy, dpkg -l > intalled.txt
[21:01] <scienceboy> nickpresta: do i type that in the terminal?
[21:01] <NickPresta> scienceboy, yep
[21:01] <scienceboy> nickpresta: thank you!
[21:03] <scienceboy> nickpresta: where is intalled.txt located?
[21:03] <scienceboy> nickpresta: nvrm
[21:04] <NickPresta> in whatever directory you ran the command in. most likely ~/
[21:04] <scienceboy> oh
[21:05] <heretic43> must go
[21:06] <NickPresta> scienceboy, did you find it?
[21:07] <scienceboy> nickpresta: yes i did. thank you. as a side note, is there a way to eliminate the descriptions and just get the names?
[21:08] <NickPresta> scienceboy, yep, sure. dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' > installed.txt
[21:09] <scienceboy> nickpresta: thanks!!!
[21:09] <NickPresta> scienceboy, of course, you should remove the first 4-5 lines (where the status information is)
[21:11] <MGalaxy> hello, some of applications (like 7zip) are disabled in "Adept Installer", why ? I am using Kubuntu 7.10 DVD and added it to SOURCES :-s
[21:12] <argyris> Error while copying to "/usr/share/amsn/skins". any guesses why?
[21:13] <Q-collective> I've finally got gutsy to notice my intel HD audio stuff, but now I'm still not hearing anything. I've looked in alsamixer to see if it was muted, but it isn't
[21:13] <Q-collective> could anyone help me out a bit?
[21:14] <scienceboy> nickpresta: if i'm installing kubuntu, then do can i not include the packages that start with gnome?
[21:17] <Minataku> Hm
[21:17] <NickPresta> scienceboy, you don't need gnome packages but some applications which aren't a part of KDE may require things like libgnome, or libgtk, etc
[21:17] <Minataku> Dr_Willis isn't here :\
[21:17] <scienceboy> nickpresta: oh, ok. thank you!
[21:18] <jtt> argyris, did you prepend  sudo  to your command
[21:18] <scienceboy> nickpresta: allright, now once i back up my files i'm all set for a reinstall! thank you!
[21:19] <NickPresta> no problem. I hope it goes well.
[21:21] <RB> hey if i copy the files inside iso on the hard drive, and then bot in dos can i start the install of kubuntu ?
[21:22] <TameLion> No CD burner RB?
[21:23] <RB> i have but it seems it don't read the cd good and it's stoping
[21:23] <RB> tryed to bot from usb still it block afther i chose the keybord stuff
[21:24] <TameLion> in the same place?
[21:24] <RB> no, from the cd afther clicking the install
[21:25] <RB> on usb when it's step 4 to chose the keyboard
[21:25] <TameLion> hmm.. maybe some hardware it doesn't like
[21:25] <RB> it's a laptop, celeron
[21:25] <TameLion> I don't think you can start the install from DOS..
[21:26] <BrightEyes`> hello.my lcd monitor is supporting up to 72Hz refresh rate and kubuntu gives up to 57Hz.what can i do to fix that? i can see the difference on my screen while on 57Hz refr.r
[21:26] <RB> but if i have the files on hard drive and run kubuntu from usb cand i start the install from kubuntu from my hard drive ?
[21:26] <TameLion> Do you have another box? You could always try moving the hard drive and installing in another machine, then transfer the hard drive back
[21:29] <barbaros> how can i feed ls commands output into perl's map function as an array or list ?
[21:30] <barbaros> or how can i feed a commands output as other  commands arguments for example perl :)
[21:31] <fdoving> barbaros: xargs
[21:31] <fdoving> barbaros: command1 | xargs command2
[21:36] <trappist> anyone know why I'm getting bad GPG signatures from gutsy-backports?
[21:38] <Q-collective> I've finally got gutsy to notice my intel HD audio stuff, but now I'm still not hearing anything. I've looked in alsamixer to see if it was muted, but it isn't. I'm rather puzzled, what could be the problem?
[21:40] <genii> Damn. someone was talking to me here (red channel) but gone so long it scrolled off top. Hope it wasn't urgent
[21:41] <[ifr0g]> !logs
[21:41] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[21:41] <[ifr0g]> genii, ^^
[21:41] <genii> Q-collective: Sound/audio issues are not usually my topic. But another user recently solved an issue involving his Intel audio by putting as a kernel option in the menu.list  usb-handoff
[21:42] <genii> [ifr0g]: Aaah , thanks muchly :)
[21:43] <[ifr0g]> np
[21:43] <Q-collective> genii: well I added those options in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base already (at least I guess they do the same thing), and the system recognises the hardware now, but still no sound.
[21:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> [ifr0g]: hey
[21:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> :]
[21:44] <[ifr0g]> :)
[21:44] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> br everybody
[21:44] <genii> Q-collective: I would suspect then an ACPI issue. But otherwise on this topic I'm likley not much assistance
[21:44] <Q-collective> ACPI issue ey?
[21:44] <Q-collective> hmm
[21:45]  * genii hands BluesKaj a coffee
[21:45] <BluesKaj> thx genii :)
[21:45] <genii> BluesKaj: anytime
[21:46] <genii> Q-collective: Were you having problems before this relating to power management, laptop fan, screen blanking or so on?
[21:46] <baje> Yop yop
[21:47] <[ifr0g]> Q-collective, what are you using to test the sound ?
[21:47] <BluesKaj> got this error message when trying fgl_glxgears in the konsole : Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:47] <barbaros> what does mouse wheel do when i move it ?
[21:47] <barbaros> how it's called ?
[21:48] <barbaros> is it scrolling up and down ?
[21:48] <BluesKaj> barbaros, yes
[21:48] <barbaros> if so i try to configure kpdf so that it behaves like what i do when i move my mouse wheel
[21:49] <MGalaxy> hello, some of applications (like 7zip) are disabled in "Adept Installer", why ? I am using Kubuntu 7.10 DVD and added it to SOURCES :-s
[21:49] <BluesKaj> dunno about that, sorry
[21:49] <barbaros> but when i change shortcut for scrooling up to shift+j and down shift+k respectively it slides so slowly and i cant stop it
[21:49] <barbaros> how can i change that so that it behaves exactly like my mouse wheel ?
[21:50] <genii> BluesKaj: I've found some oddities when trying to run gui stuff from konsole even if with kdesu or gksu/gksudo , better to run it from alt-f2 instead
[21:52] <Q-collective> genii: nope
[21:52] <Q-collective> [ifr0g]: amarok, kafeine, youtube on konq and firefox
[21:53] <Q-collective> I think that would do it
[21:53] <Q-collective> :p
[21:54] <graelb> hi there
[21:54] <graelb> i'm trying to install the nvidia drivers for linux, but once i stop gdm, and run the script, i get an error saying i don't have the libc headers... i don't know what to do from there
[21:55] <jords> why not just use the restricted drivers manager?
[21:56] <sub[t]rnl> graelb: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:56] <graelb> it doesn't work correctly jords
[21:56] <graelb> i don't have my tty's and direct rendering doesn't work...
[21:57] <evjunior09> I want to burn a CD...Amarok opens up K3b and that says my songs are an unsupported format, but it's just an .MP3....Any help?
[21:57] <graelb> ok! installing build essentials hehe
[21:57] <jords> graelb: oh ok. Yeah installing  build-essential will let you compile them
[21:57] <graelb> perfet
[21:57] <graelb> ct
[21:57] <graelb> perfect! jaysus. thanks guys
[21:57] <graelb> ok brb!
[21:58] <sub[t]rnl> evjunior09: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[21:59] <Skrot-> Hi, where can I find planned/sugguested features for hardy heron?
[21:59] <genii> Q-collective: Well, I have no immediate ideas in that case then. you need an audio card specialist
[22:00] <Q-collective> genii: oh well, thx for thinking on the matter :)
[22:01] <graelb> yeah... issues galore! it couldn't build a kernel interface
[22:01] <genii> Skrot-: Perhaps check launchpad site
[22:02] <jords> graelb: sudo apt-get install linux-source should fix that i think
[22:02] <graelb> ok
[22:02] <graelb> hehe
[22:02] <graelb> appreciate your help btw
[22:02] <Skrot-> genii: there appeared to be nothing in there. I was just wondering if encrypted $HOME via the installer will ever happen :)
[22:03] <jords> np I think you'll need to do some manual steps with the linux source after it's downloaded... needs to be extracted etc
[22:03] <barbaros> how can i add date into a filename's end in konsole ?
[22:03] <barbaros> i wnat to backup somefiles using today's date
[22:03] <alexey> Problem: lsusb finds Bluetooth Adapter, but hcitool scan detects no devices. Why?
[22:04] <graelb> jords:  *blinks* how do i go about that?
[22:05] <MidMark> hi guys, someone knows how to put knetworkmanager in automatic mode? now is always in manual mode and I don't know how to reput it in automatic
[22:05] <graelb> jords: be right back, going to try it again
[22:06] <Neutrinux> hi how to put basket back in kontact in 3.5.8????
[22:07] <graelb> ok, got the linux-source, but it still doesn't work, so i imagine the other stuff you mentioned i need to do
[22:07] <sub[t]rnl> MidMark: for your wireless?
[22:08] <jords> graelb: yeah. can you cd /usr/src , run ls and tell me roughly what files are there?
[22:09] <graelb> jords:  sure, hang on a second
[22:09] <freeride> 1
[22:09] <MidMark> sub[t]rnl: exactly
[22:10] <graelb> linux-headers 2.6.22-14 (and the -generic flavor) and linux-source-2.6.22.tar.bz2
[22:10] <graelb> that's it
[22:10] <sub[t]rnl> MidMark: remove your wireless interface from /etc/networks/interface
[22:11] <MidMark> sub[t]rnl: this will return knetworkmanager to automatically discover networks?
[22:11] <sub[t]rnl> yes
[22:11] <MidMark> thanx
[22:12] <lee986321> emergencey shut down of compiz is needed
[22:14] <notv> how can i change the permissions for raw1394? is there a file i can edit or something?
[22:14] <jords> graelb: sry
[22:14] <graelb> jords:  the two linux-headers that weren't the tarballs, were directories btw
[22:15] <jords> graelb: got distracted.... anyway run tar -xzf linux-source-2.6.22.tar.bz2
[22:16] <graelb> jords, the tarball is red...
[22:16] <xevious> my login screen is loading with an increased virtual desktop size, compared to my resolution. where are the resolution settings stored for kdm?
[22:16] <jords> graelb: yep, so is mine on my system :D
[22:16] <MarcC-backroom> how can I escape the Kubuntu splash load screen to get a command prompt?
[22:16] <The_Machine> excuse me -what's an easy way to test if my firewall is letting NTP outbound of my network?
[22:17] <jords> graelb: and then run sudo ln -s linux-source-2.6.22 linux
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> MarcC-backroom: ctrl+alt+f2?
[22:17] <graelb> jords: ok, hat's good lol, the tar -xzf gives me an errror "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format /n tar: child return status 1 /n tar: error exit delayed from previous errors
[22:17] <MarcC-backroom> doh, thanks nosrednaekim
[22:17] <graelb> that's*
[22:18] <sub[t]rnl> xevious: take out any high end resolutions that you don't use.  I think kdm goes with the highest you have in your xorg.conf
[22:18] <MarcC-backroom> how do I remove a kernel version? I want to remove my realtime kernel?
[22:18] <jords> graelb: warlg. I really need to learn my tar options :D replace the z with a j
[22:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> u dont know popcorn
[22:18] <jords> so tar -xjf
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> MarcC-backroom: make sure you have another one loaded first, and then uninstall it .
[22:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> kernal
[22:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> popcorn
[22:19]  * nosrednaekim does a polite haha...
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> AT0M1CB0MB3R: fixed your grub problem?
[22:19] <graelb> jords: ok, it's going, but it keeps saying no such file or directory, do i need to sudo it?
[22:19] <MarcC-backroom> nosrednaekim, I'm looking for the command line command to remove a specific kernel...do I just use sudo apt-get remove
[22:19] <MarcC-backroom> ?
[22:19] <xevious> sub[t]rnl: i did that and it's now loading at 1400x1050 (my usual screen res.) but it's got a 1600x1200 virtual desktop
[22:20] <xevious> brb. lemme check it
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> MarcC-backroom: yes
[22:20] <jords> graelb: yeah, should sudo it
[22:20] <sub[t]rnl> xevious: hrm, specify a virtual resolution too then, to keep it in check
[22:20] <graelb> jords: seems to be working this time... one second
[22:20] <sub[t]rnl> xevious: virtual 1400x1050
[22:20] <Blazeix> Is there a way to change the desktop icon size, without changing the FileManager icon size?
[22:20] <graelb> jords: ok! that worked
[22:20] <jords> :D
[22:21] <jords> so the driver is compiled fine now?
[22:21] <MarcC-backroom> nosrednaekim, thanks
[22:21] <BigDaddy> hey all, anyone play boson in here?
[22:21] <MarcC-backroom> played it once
[22:21] <BigDaddy> I am crashing everytime I try and load it.
[22:21] <graelb> ok, it's lned
[22:22] <graelb> ln-ed
[22:22] <xevious> sub[t]rnl: yeah. i'm a dummy
[22:22] <MarcC-backroom> BigDaddy, did you check to see if there's a bug report on it? And a newer package at getdeb.net?
[22:22] <xevious> sub[t]rnl: missed that line :D
[22:22] <BigDaddy> never heard of getdeb. I will check
[22:22] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, i looked over it a few times too when messing with that
[22:22] <xevious> sub[t]rnl: you can just remove the virtual line
[22:23] <graelb> jords: cd-ed to the linux dir , do i need to configure and make?
[22:23] <sven__> How can I check if a server will auto adjust to the winter time settings?
[22:24] <BluesKaj> who has an ATI X200 graphics on Gutsy 64 bit , and if so does the the new ati proprietary 8.42 driver work on your setup ?
[22:25]  * nosrednaekim doesn't think that was directed to him :)
[22:27] <BigDaddy> getdeb doesn't have boson for feisty nor gutsy. I checked the sourceforge page and I have the most current. I will just post something there. I was mainly curious if anyone here played it and if it was worth keeping
[22:29] <jords> graelb: don't think so
[22:29] <jords> graelb: just go and try to run the nvidia install script again
[22:29] <graelb> jords:  ok, will do. brb
[22:30] <MarcC-backroom> BigDaddy, good luck...I don't remember if I first saw it on Youtube or where but it looked OK when I played it.
[22:31] <BigDaddy> oh well, it's no biggy. I will just see if I can get Wine working and try setting up some Yuri's Revenge
[22:31] <graelb> jords: Same error. any other ideas?
[22:32] <MarcC-backroom> ewww...how do I change the Gutsy KDM screen?
[22:32] <giofx> hi
[22:33] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, the new driver doesn't do 3d or dri on my x200g...I know there's prolly a fix but I'm tired of constantly rebooting the pc after editing the xorg file trying to fix the problem :(
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> no need to reboot, could you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.conf
[22:34] <animimotus> hi
[22:34] <animimotus> someone knows the escape caracter I should use between a : cat photos_* > Photos.tar.gz   and a :   tar -xzvf Photos.tar.gz    ?
[22:34] <steelsnake> Marc: change in what way? You need the KDM theme manager to change the login screen
[22:35] <MarcC-backroom> steelsnake, thanks, I just want to change the theme so it has matching colors...I'll try the KDM theme manager
[22:36] <Authority> knetworkmanager is not showing the "wireless networks" section under the right click menu on 7.10
[22:36] <Authority> it was earlier, but now it's not
[22:36] <steelsnake> it does for me... check that networkmanager itself is running
[22:36] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, http://www.pastebin.ca/750900
[22:37] <Authority> steelsnake: it's managing my wired connection just fine
[22:37] <steelsnake> Authority: yeah, but IIRC it needs networkmanager to run in the background to show the wireless stuff
[22:38] <steelsnake> i had that problem myself a few times :) if in doubt, open a console, kill KNetworkManager and networkmanager, restart networkmanager and then KNetworkmanager and see if that helps
[22:38] <mikes2> synaptic works fine ,,Why the need for adept?
[22:39] <aaron> I just booted, and I'm trying to run adept updater, but it says the database is locked cause its in use...
[22:39] <Authority> steelsnake: I was under the impression it needs NetworkManager running to manage wired as well, but either way, yes, NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher are running
[22:39] <steelsnake> Authority: sorry, should have use proper caps: NetworkManager and knetworkmanager
[22:39] <mikes2> and dolphin,,,Konqueror works fine?,,err hmm
[22:39] <steelsnake> then i've got no idea what else to try Authority... anything in the logfiles?
[22:40] <mikes2> aaron: reboot
[22:40] <aaron> argh
[22:40] <aaron> ok
[22:40] <mikes2> and install synaptic :)
[22:41] <Authority> steelsnake: which ones would you recommend I look at?  nothing in /var/log/messages or dmesg
[22:41] <steelsnake> why synaptic? apt-get FTW ;)
[22:41] <steelsnake> j/k
[22:41] <mikes2> apt-get ,,all good :)
[22:41] <MarcC-backroom> is there a list of the default Gutsy repos somewhere?
[22:41] <MaDiNfO_> hi
[22:41] <MarcC-backroom> I just want to match up to mine, make sure I'm ok
[22:41] <mikes2> Why the need for adept and dolphin?\
[22:41] <MaDiNfO_> vd_la-media_helper.Tpo -c media_helper.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/xineplug_inp_dvd_la-media_helper.o
[22:41] <MaDiNfO_> media_helper.c:47:2: warning: #warning "This might not compile due to missing cdrom ioctls"
[22:41] <MaDiNfO_> media_helper.c: In function 'media_eject_media':
[22:41] <MaDiNfO_> media_helper.c:107: error: 'CDROM_DRIVE_STATUS' undeclared (first use in this function)
[22:42] <MaDiNfO_> any idea ?
[22:42] <steelsnake> Authority: lemme check... i don't use knetworkmanager myself anymore, so i gotta quickly check it :)
[22:42] <mikes2> wasted time,,many other bugs to fix :)
[22:42] <Authority> steelsnake: do you use wicd?
[22:43] <MarcC-backroom> dang, dolphin seems pretty unstable
[22:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: looking at it..
[22:44] <steelsnake> nope... i don't used wireless anymore (too slow), so i configure the wired networks from the shell
[22:44] <aaron> I JUST booted and when I try to run adept updater it says the database is already in use
[22:45] <mikes2> steelsnake: ndiswrapper not working properly?
[22:45] <aaron> how do you view running processes?
[22:45] <notv> anyone know how to get freebob working?
[22:45] <aaron> in xterm
[22:45] <mikes2> top in konsole
[22:45] <Authority> steelsnake: gotcha
[22:45] <steelsnake> aaron: open a command prompt, run "sudo apt-get upgrade" and see what happens
[22:45] <rickey>  man i hafe to say ,that kubuntu 7.10 gutsy is the best OS  yet
[22:46] <mikes2> aaron ksysguard
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) <----- there is your problem
[22:46] <aaron> steelsnake,  invalid operation upgrade
[22:46] <steelsnake> looks like networkmanager logs to syslog, i.e. /var/log/syslog
[22:47] <mikes2> rickey: i have found a heap of bugs but they are being sorted fast
[22:47] <Authority> steelsnake: got it figured out.  eth1 (my wireless card) was listed in /etc/network/interfaces.  Just deleted the reference and it picked it up right away
[22:47] <rickey> yes they are mike
[22:47] <steelsnake> ohhhhh... cool Authority
[22:47] <rickey>  i am so prould of kubuntu  for that to
[22:48] <aaron> what else could be using the packaging system databse!
[22:48] <mikes2> I was going to nuke the install but after the updates it is much more stable
[22:48] <steelsnake> er should be "update"... sorry
[22:48] <Authority> steelsnake: I'm still new to the Debian way of configuring interfaces
[22:48] <mikes2> Debian sid :)
[22:49] <rickey> well mikes , taking in mind with everything wrong with kubuntu ,it,s a hell of a  lot better then windows OS,s
[22:49] <steelsnake> Authority: i'm more a manual person myself... i.e. command line :)
[22:51] <aaron> ok now it told me to do apt-get upgrade -f
[22:51] <aaron> gar
[22:51] <graelb> jords: The nvidia installer didn't work again
[22:51] <aaron> i did the upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[22:52] <rickey> if a dummy like me can get along with kubuntu , anyone can
[22:52] <aaron> didn't go quite perfectly :p
[22:52] <mikes2> aaron: Many hav had probs updating
[22:52] <steelsnake> AHHHH yes aaron... that explains a little bit. So yeah, go with the -f
[22:52] <mikes2> ^^e
[22:52] <aaron> perhaps I'll just reinstall
[22:52] <aaron> :p
[22:52] <manchicken> Anybody here got a moment to answer what's going on with openvpn not working?  It even gets as far as to say that initialization is complete, but it then just sits there.  I get a kernel message saying this though: tun0: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[22:52] <MarcC-backroom> well, Automatix and Ubuntu Studio sure made that dist-upgrade difficult, but it's done now :)
[22:52] <aaron> to be fair, its about 1000 times better than upgrading in place from xp to vista
[22:52] <aaron> :p
[22:52] <mikes2> aaron: I save /home and fresh install
[22:53] <steelsnake> yeh tell me about it mikes2 :) dist upgrade didn't work on either of my two machines
[22:53] <rickey> mikes did you make sure all of the older updates were all catch up before you upgraded
[22:53] <mikes2> steelsnake: Its not a true rolling release like Debian :)
[22:53] <mikes2> despite what you read
[22:54] <steelsnake> ~shrug~ i tarred up my home dir beforehand anyway and burned it to a CD... so the easy solution was to wipe and install clean... worked like a charm
[22:54] <aaron> steelsnake, it also told me to do a dpkg --configure or something
[22:54] <steelsnake> AHA
[22:54] <mikes2> fresh is best :)
[22:54] <barbaros> 00:53] <barbaros> i cant download anything form ktorrent
[22:54] <barbaros> [00:54] <barbaros> what can it be the possible problem ?
[22:54] <barbaros> [00:54] <barbaros> status is always stalle
[22:55] <steelsnake> cool aaron... then go for it, that should fix all the locks aaron
[22:55] <steelsnake> stale locks suck
[22:55] <steelsnake> alternatively you can delete the lock files manually, aaron, but thats more work
[22:55] <aaron> was it because of the upgrade between 04 and 10?
[22:56] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, so how do i solve it ? :)
[22:57] <BigPick> testing... anyone hear me?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> thats the million $ (canadian) question
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> BigPick: hey
[22:57] <steelsnake> yep BigPick
[22:57] <BluesKaj> canuck = $1.04 US today
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: see if you have a /dev/dri/card0
[22:58] <BluesKaj> err canuckbuck
[22:58] <steelsnake> could be aaron... stale locks happen on occasion tho
[22:58] <aaron> k
[22:59] <mikes2> aaron: 7.04 to 7.10 is not do much an update/upgrade but more of a rewrite and there in lies the challenge
[22:59] <aaron> ah
[22:59] <aaron> same kernel then? I don't follow these things
[22:59] <mikes2> No new kernel in gutsy
[23:00] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, no output
[23:00] <jmichaelx> no new kernel in gutsy? what are you talking about?
[23:00] <mikes2> aaron: After a month or two of updates it should be an ok release
[23:00] <jmichaelx> ahh
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: hmmm... :) do you have a section in your Xorg that give 666 permissions to dri?
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: anything at all in /dev/dri?
[23:01] <mikes2> jmichaelx: 22-14=very new :)
[23:01] <BluesKaj> no 666 dri in th xorg file
[23:01] <jmichaelx> pretty new, lol
[23:01] <mikes2> Little too new
[23:02] <jmichaelx> probably... wireless in gutsy is really sucking bad for me.. plus several other smaller glitches. i am not sure it is all kernel related, but some of it surely is
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: oh.. NM... I don't have one either.
[23:03] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, nothing in /dev/dri
[23:03] <mikes2> jmichaelx: Kernel is very new and not totally sorted is my gut feeling,But i have found several small glitches in kde\
[23:04] <erjon> kubuntu italian ?
[23:04] <milian> hi guys
[23:04] <jmichaelx> usb drives not mounting if left connected... i am always having to unplaug, then plug in AFTER booting up
[23:04] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps someone has an idea...  say i want to grep all of my log files for URLs so i can run them through wget, how would i even start going about it?  the problem is that i know JACK about regex's :\
[23:05] <erjon> hi cerco suport in italiano per kubuntu grazie
[23:05] <mikes2> jmichaelx: I use Sidux as well and it is rock solid
[23:05] <BluesKaj> brb
[23:05] <Daisuke_Ido> i should narrow that down.  all urls that lead to, say...  a jpeg
[23:05] <jmichaelx> i have thought about giving sidux a spin... how different is it from kanotix?
[23:05] <mikes2> very similar
[23:06] <mikes2> jmichaelx: very fast,,and has smxi for non-free,,ati,nvidia ,google earth etc etc
[23:06] <steelsnake> Daisuke_Ido: "grep -i http\: /var/log/*" maybe?
[23:06] <jmichaelx> can you dist-upgrade from release to release in sidux?
[23:06] <mikes2> Yes
[23:06] <jmichaelx> cool
[23:06] <mikes2> no probs
[23:06] <mikes2> seemless
[23:07] <erjon> ies4linux-2.5beta2    can u help me haw to install this ies4linux-2.5beta2
[23:07] <jmichaelx> can you install from debian unstable repos?
[23:07] <jmichaelx> install packages*
[23:07] <mikes2> yes
[23:07] <jmichaelx> sweet
[23:07] <mikes2> and etch
[23:07] <mikes2> and lenny
[23:07] <Daisuke_Ido> steelsnake: that doesn't take care of narrowing down the output to just strings that are http://*jpg
[23:08] <jmichaelx> yeah, i should check sidux out.
[23:08] <Daisuke_Ido> but to my knowledge, grep doesn't do wildcards
[23:08] <mikes2> jmichaelx: 10 min install
[23:08] <jmichaelx> i like kubuntu a lot, but i really hate the wireless situation. a card will work under one release, but not the next, but then might work again in the next
[23:08] <steelsnake> you can always pipe it, Daisuke_Ido... depends on the log format tho... if the .jpg is always at the end, this would work:
[23:08] <steelsnake> grep -i http\: /var/log/* | grep \.jpg\$
[23:09] <steelsnake> er
[23:09] <steelsnake> grep -i http\: /var/log/* | grep \.jpg$
[23:09] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[23:09] <steelsnake> dang i am out of my mind today...
[23:09] <steelsnake> grep -i http\: /var/log/* | grep -i \.jpg$
[23:09] <steelsnake> there :)
[23:09] <mikes2> jmichaelx: i like this release and feel it will get better in time,but so many probs for a major distro
[23:09] <mikes2> "bugs"
[23:09] <milian> sorry, bad connection - were my messages send?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, it's odd but there's no 'modules" section which lists Load  " glx" , "dri" etc in the xorg file
[23:10] <Daisuke_Ido> that works well
[23:10] <jmichaelx> i totally wish they had delayed the release... things like usb drive mounting issues and wireless issues hurt things badly. i realize wireless is often a problem in linux, but for commonly supported cards, it should not be like this
[23:11] <mikes2> BluesKaj: Same :(
[23:11] <Daisuke_Ido> can i pipe that output as the urls for wget?
[23:11] <BluesKaj> mikes2, i find that weird :P
[23:11] <mikes2> BluesKaj: you have Nvidia?
[23:12] <BluesKaj> ati
[23:12] <mikes2> hmm
[23:12] <mikes2> jmichaelx: try Sidux Gaia live cd and run "smxi" wicked :)
[23:13] <barbaros> how can i install mlnet core in kubuntu ?
[23:13] <barbaros> i ve installed kmldonkey with sudo apt-get install kmldonkey
[23:13] <barbaros> but when i issue whereis or which mlnet no directory is listed
[23:13] <BluesKaj> I have a copy of the xorg file used in feisty and it lists a whole lot of stuff to "load " in it , unless it's hidden in gutsy
[23:13] <jmichaelx> yeah, i may have a look this weekend. this desktop will remain kubuntu, but i am thinking of changing my laptop to something else
[23:13] <barbaros> but kmldonkey installation prompts me for a directory for mlnet core
[23:14] <BluesKaj> barbaros, run mlnet in the konsole and it loads the core
[23:15] <BluesKaj> barbaros, you'll have to do so everytime you wish to use mldonkey
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: I think those are loded automatically
[23:17] <mikes2> jmichaelx: 7.04 was a better release
[23:17] <grainwave> hello, while resizing a partition, gparted crashed. long story short i have a 300gb partition with 100gb used space. But no files show up on this partition? Any ideas anyone?
[23:17] <BluesKaj> barbaros, just type " mlnet " in the konsole (without the quotes)
[23:17] <jmichaelx> mikes2: absolutely no question
[23:17] <mikes2> grainwave: formatt with windows cd/fat32
[23:18] <steelsnake> ewwwww fat32
[23:18] <mikes2> grainwave: Can Gparted not see it now?\
[23:18] <steelsnake> i think the files are lost, grainwave... if they don't show up after the crash
[23:19] <grainwave> gparted can see the drive
[23:19] <aaron> is it a good idea to take new versions of cfg files?
[23:19] <mikes2> grainwave: Backed up important data/
[23:19] <aaron> when apt-get asks about them?
[23:20] <steelsnake> i would, aaron, but that's me... trusting... :)
[23:20] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, gonna try them anyway, bbiab
[23:20] <aaron> heh
[23:21] <grainwave> Important data is backed up just lots of movies. If they are lost what is the best way to recover space from drive? Format?
[23:21] <steelsnake> delete the partition, create a new one
[23:21] <mikes2> pclos has a new release soon,i have had a play from testing ,It is solid,and so sorted for a very small team
[23:21] <mikes2> hmm
[23:21] <mikes2> No sense
[23:21] <grainwave> cool thanks
[23:22] <MarcC-backroom> why do my gnome apps like Streamtuner and XChat stay on the screen when it turns black as I log off?
[23:25] <sven__> by god.. is there ANY way I can have that strigi demon behave, without jabbing a wooden pin through its chest?
[23:25] <MilesG> are there any programmers in here?
[23:25] <sven__> as in, right now strigi takes, every 10 minutes, for about 5 minnutes 80% of my CPU....
[23:25] <sven__> is there any way I can configure strigi to... relax?
[23:25] <sven__> take less CPU
[23:25] <MilesG> AmyRose: are you a programmer?
[23:25] <sven__> work less often
[23:26] <sven__> stuff like that?
[23:26] <blendtux> just close it, and change your settings that it wont start up at boot time sven__
[23:26] <sven__> MilesG, Thats an original pickup line..
[23:27] <MilesG> nah, i just wanted to ask AmyRose cause that person knows everything
[23:27] <sven__> blendtux, right.. which will cause it not to index at all.. thats like, from 100% to 0%,, I'd like to be at.. 25% or so.. :)
[23:27] <MilesG> sven__: are you a programmer?
[23:27] <steelsnake> just ask the question, MilesG
[23:27] <blendtux> yes i thought so, it was just a sugestion
[23:27] <sven__> MilesG, considdering that I have not seen her say anything yet.. :)
[23:27] <BluesKaj> glxinfo | grep direct :output= direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[23:27] <sven__> MilesG, and yeah, Im a programmer
[23:27] <sven__> who isnt
[23:28] <MilesG> i had an interview today, and they asked me to do a couple logic programs on paper in java
[23:28] <sven__> so better.. where or how can I configure strigi??
[23:28] <MilesG> and i got the last one wrong, at first, but then i corrected it while talking it out with the interviewer, does that look bad?
[23:28]  * MilesG fresh out of college
[23:28] <steelsnake> MilesG: depends on the interviewer... i wouldn't hold it against you since you did catch it
[23:29] <AmyRose> MilesG: Sorry, I am not a programmer.
[23:29] <steelsnake> was it a standard algo, like quicksort or somesuch?
[23:29] <sven__> MilesG,  kind of off-topic, isnt tit?
[23:29] <AmyRose> I'm just a somewhat experienced end-user
[23:29] <MilesG> it was like a college text book question, like a story problem
[23:29] <sven__> MilesG, anyway, since EVERYBODY makes mistakes, why would it look bad? you noticed it, you corrected it.. making mistakes isnt bad.. not acknnowledging them or fixing them is..
[23:29] <BluesKaj> that so called wonderful new 8.42 ati driver does nothing at all for my setup...it actually made thigs worse
[23:30] <MilesG> i guess, i thought they were a linux shop, but they only deploy to linux servers, so its not really what im looking for
[23:31]  * steelsnake agrees with sven
[23:31] <dvayanu> does someone know how to force ubuntu 7.10 to recognize ipod touch?
[23:32] <steelsnake> BluesKaj: truthfully... i don't really like ATI drivers in linux... the open ones don't work for modern cards, the closed ones just plain suck.
[23:32] <benoit> bonsoir
[23:32] <RCG1984> hello all, in what directory does the package manager install software?
[23:33] <steelsnake> you mean where it downloads them to, or where it actually installs packages to?
[23:33] <AmyRose> dvayanu: Sorry, the only thing I can come up with is "Boycott Apple"
[23:33] <benoit> est ce que quelqu'un pourrait m'aider pour régler un pb daffichage ?
[23:33] <AmyRose> !fr | benoit
[23:33] <ubotu> benoit: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:34] <RCG1984> steelsnake: I mean where does it actually install the packages to
[23:34] <steelsnake> ok... that depends on the package, RCG1984. Most go somewhere into the /usr tree i'd think
[23:35] <RCG1984> steelsnake: ok, I'm just wondering because I can't find a package for gtk+ and I'm about to manually compile and than install it
[23:35] <BluesKaj> steelsnake, i had perfectly fine setup with 3d and dri , working just fine on feisty ...seriously considering reverting back ...this so called upgrade to gutsy sucks for my system , I'm afraid :(
[23:35] <MilesG> RCG1984: i think it might be /usr/lib
[23:36] <RCG1984> if i leave the --prefix flag out of ./configure will it automatically install the libraries into what ever the bash profile is set to?
[23:36] <steelsnake> yeh didn't have much luck upgrading either BluesKaj... got it working now, minus a royal glitch on my lappy... sorry to say gutsy isn't what it should be
[23:37] <steelsnake> yes RCG1984
[23:37] <steelsnake> usually some /usr/local tree
[23:37] <steelsnake> er wait
[23:37] <steelsnake> i misread that
[23:37] <BluesKaj> yup, steelsnake unfortunately i agree :(
[23:37] <steelsnake> not based on the bash profile, i think... i'm not 100% sure but it'd depend on the configure defaults
[23:37]  * jmichaelx agree with BluesKaj as well
[23:38] <RCG1984> steelsnake: would you recommend I leave the --prefix flag out?
[23:39]  * jmichaelx has three machines using rt2500 wireless, and has had to do some headbanging
[23:39] <steelsnake> i would, RCG1984, makes later removal easier (thinking that gtk+ might have a make uninstall command)
[23:40] <MilesG> RCG1984: i thought it got compiled into the directory that you ran ./configure from, which is usually the directory you un-tarred
[23:40] <steelsnake> it compiles there, yes... but install usually moves it elsewher
[23:40] <RCG1984> MilesG:  I have no idea what's why i'm wondering where it will install it to
[23:41] <MilesG> RCG1984: im unsure, but im trying to confirm what i thought happened
[23:41] <steelsnake> i didn't have many probs with wireless, but i don't use wifi anymore so i am not a good judge of that part yet
[23:41] <RCG1984> I'll give this install a roll and see what happends
[23:41] <steelsnake> well, check ./configure --help, it'll tell you where it'll install
[23:41] <MilesG> steelsnake: "make install" moves the binaries into typically /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin, correct?
[23:41] <RCG1984> alright
[23:41] <steelsnake> usually /usr/local subtree
[23:41] <steelsnake> yep MilesG
[23:42] <jmichaelx> steelsnake: i have things working (sort of) in gutsy, but gutsy has so far been a step backwards
[23:42] <jmichaelx> hopefull that will be fixed soon
[23:42] <steelsnake> oh yes... i hate having to reset xorg.conf each time i reboot ~laughs~... damn gutsy messes it up at each boot, haven't bothered to figure out why yet
[23:43] <steelsnake> only on lappy, desktop is fine... thank goddess, that one would suck to rebuild each time
[23:43] <BluesKaj> we can only hope ...all the hype about the new and improved ati graphics driver is a real disappointment tho
[23:43] <sonic> what are the benifits of switching to the 386 kernel vs the generic one?
[23:43] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[23:43] <jmichaelx> steelsnake: that is strange... you are running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg each time you reboot?
[23:44] <MarcC-backroom> does anybody else see the old thumbnails in kdmtheme?
[23:44] <jmichaelx> sonic: probably none , unless you are using very old hardware
[23:45] <steelsnake> might run automatically, but no, i don't intentionally do that anyway
[23:45] <jmichaelx> steelsnake: if you would run that, your problem might be solved. maybe you have done it already
[23:46] <steelsnake> i'll give it a shot jmichaelx
[23:48] <RCG1984> well i ran into an error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[23:48] <steelsnake> one saving grace: hydra setup seems to work a lot better on gutsy... on edgy it crashed once in a week or so
[23:48] <steelsnake> ahhh you need the build-essentials RCG1984
[23:49] <steelsnake> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[23:49] <RCG1984> ahh
[23:49] <steelsnake> i hope i spelled that right from memory :)
[23:50] <RCG1984> steelsnake: yep you are correct :-)
[23:51] <RCG1984> ift gtk+ was packaged this would make my life so much easier
[23:52] <steelsnake> i'd think it is...
[23:52] <RCG1984> i did a search for it but didn't run across anything
[23:52] <steelsnake> thats such a common basic package after all
[23:52] <RCG1984> I'm using Adept Manager to find packages and I didn't come across anything
[23:53] <steelsnake> hmmm quickly running a package check...
[23:54] <steelsnake> you just need the lib, right? not the dev files?
[23:54] <myrdos> Why does everything in my K-Menu look like this   _: Entries in K-menu: Konversation app name, IRC client d...
[23:54] <RCG1984> well, I'm trying to use php-gtk
[23:54] <RCG1984> most likely just the library files
[23:55] <steelsnake> libgtk2.0-common seems to be the package you need, isn't it?
[23:55] <RCG1984> hrm
[23:56] <RCG1984> apparently I have no idea what i'm doing when trying to find a package
[23:56] <RCG1984> I thought it would be listed as gtk+ lol
[23:57] <steelsnake> no worries, i've been known to miss packages too ~laughs~... even when they stared me right in the face in a few cases ;)
[23:58] <RCG1984> it looks like i already have it installed :-)