[00:20] <Ubulette> yeah, nice new look for the PPA ! kudos to the devs :)
[00:22] <Ubulette> tiny bug, sort by status doesn't work.
[00:50] <ubotu> New bug: #157280 in launchpad "Launchpad offers search engine users non-existent functionality for many projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157280
[01:44]  * reacocard is away: Not available (probably)
[02:30] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders!
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #157301 in soyuz "+archive doesn't show removed packages as removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157301
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #157303 in soyuz "PPA section on ~person/+packages doesn't actually show the packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157303
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #157322 in soyuz "Pending PPA uploads shouldn't have files listed as published" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157322
[05:22] <Fujitsu> Arrgh, can we ban OOo from PPAs or something? It's quite an effective way to block things for a while.
[05:58] <LaserJock> Fujitsu: hehe
[05:58]  * LaserJock uploads OOo and KDE
[06:03] <Fujitsu> Are more PPA buildds likely to appear in the near future?
[06:06] <LaserJock> one would think so
[06:08] <Fujitsu> One would also think that this release wouldn't break bugwatches, and would leave a readable sourcepackage history.
[06:09] <LaserJock> Fujitsu: I got the bugmail ;-)
[06:09] <LaserJock> Fujitsu: you got an example for the sourcepackage history thing?
[06:11] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: Well, first we got the new one like https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer, but /+publishinghistory was the old one.
[06:12] <Fujitsu> Now +publishinghistory is... a bit different.
[06:12] <LaserJock> right, it looks a bit funky
[06:14] <LaserJock> at least we have a decent looking changelog on the front
[06:14] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: Except that it has holes, and often doesn't display who uploaded each.
[06:15] <LaserJock> holes? still?
[06:15] <Fujitsu> Yeah, though not anywhere near as bad as +changelog.
[06:16] <Fujitsu> This one actually displays every uploaded .changes, rather than every few that it seems to like.
[06:16] <LaserJock> I really don't understand why we can't just have a text changelog
[06:16] <Fujitsu> I do.
[06:17] <Fujitsu> Using the entries in each .changes presumably allows them to show the various branches in distoseries/pockets, whereas a text one doesn't.
[06:17] <LaserJock> well sure
[06:17] <Fujitsu> s/disto/distro/
[06:18] <LaserJock> but that should be *in addition to* the text one
[06:18] <Fujitsu> That would be even messier.
[06:18] <LaserJock> I don't see why a "Changelog" link on the Overview page would hurt
[06:19] <LaserJock> right now you can only get "View changelog" by release
[06:19] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: But which distroseries pocket would it get that from?
[06:19] <LaserJock> it should just be the latest
[06:20] <LaserJock> I can see the sticky point when we have -security -updatest, etc.
[06:21] <Fujitsu> That's right.
[06:21] <Fujitsu> It's all fairly messy.
[06:21] <LaserJock> but I think more or less picking one might work
[06:21] <LaserJock> i.e. maybe ignore non-release pockets
[06:22] <Fujitsu> The current method would work if .changes were authoritative, but with the merging from Debian etc. it's not guaranteed.
[06:22] <LaserJock> I guess maybe I want an easy way to see the changelog that came with each uploaded version
[06:23] <Fujitsu> Bug #139162
[06:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139162 in soyuz "Store the pristine debian/changelog for each SourcePackageRelease" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139162 - Assigned to Julian Edwards (julian-edwards)
[06:23] <LaserJock> it feels like LP is "making up" the changelog
[06:23] <LaserJock> which is fine for showing various useful things
[06:24] <LaserJock> but it seems like there should be easy access to the canonical or pristine changelog
[06:24] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: That's what that bug (targetted to 1.1.11) seems to be indicating.
[06:25] <LaserJock> well
[06:25] <LaserJock> except it only talks about storage
[06:25] <LaserJock> I want easy access to that information
[06:25] <Fujitsu> It's easier to render it once it's stored :P
[06:25] <LaserJock> sure
[06:25] <LaserJock> but you gotta make sure both steps happen ;-)
[06:26] <Fujitsu> Yeah.
[06:26] <Fujitsu> I'd presume it would be a logical addition to that bug, but you never know...
[07:45] <yeager> lots of timeout errors in LP today
[07:48] <Fujitsu> yeager: edge or production?
[07:48] <yeager> Fujitsu: edge
[07:49] <Fujitsu> Yeah, I noticed it too.
[07:49] <Fujitsu> Bug listings in particular.
[07:49] <LaserJock> yep, same here
[07:55] <BjornT> do you have some OOPS ids for the timeouts?
[07:59] <Fujitsu> BjornT: No, didn't note them down, sorry.
[07:59] <Fujitsu> I'll inform you if I find one again.
[08:01] <yeager> OOPS-664EB43
[08:05] <Fujitsu> promethium seems to be having some... issues.
[08:06] <Fujitsu> Build needed 00:00:04
[08:06] <Fujitsu> Build started 48 minutes ago  and finished 2 minutes ago  taking 46 minutes
[08:06] <Fujitsu> And it's not displaying logs.
[08:06] <Fujitsu> (build-deps were got in a miniscule amount of time, so that's not it...)
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #157342 in soyuz "PPA-created SourcePackageNames appear to exist in Ubuntu too" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157342
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #157358 in launchpad "Subscribe to all branches on a product" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157358
[10:15] <Hobbsee> cprov-zz: does 3 builds of openoffice in the last 2 days count as abuse, btw? :)
[10:25] <Fujitsu> 3 builds at >4.5 hours each... ouch.
[11:50] <fosstux> Hi! I'm really new to launchpad - but I have a question: How can a registered user become a member of a project team?
[11:56] <bac_afk> fosstux: go to the overview page of the team you want to join and there will be a 'join the team' link.
[11:56] <bac> fosstux: if the team is open you'll be joined immediately.  if the team requires approval your request will be submitted to the team leaders.
[11:59] <fosstux> I want to create my own team..
[11:59] <fosstux> How can I do this?
[12:01] <Fujitsu> fosstux: Go to https://launchpad.net/people, and there should be a button.
[12:03] <fosstux> thanks
[12:10] <fosstux> I'm currently registered as fosstux on launchpad. Why is it not possible to use the same email address for my project team?
[12:11] <fosstux> or can I set the contact email to my google group?
[12:29] <yeager> LP has serious problems today.. timeout OOPSes all the time
[12:29] <Fujitsu> Even more than normal for edge, yeah.
[12:30] <fosstux> Hi! How can I transfer 2 branches (for 2 projects) from my user to the appropriate project team?
[12:31] <fosstux> I've found it.
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #157397 in soyuz "Some builds taking several times longer than normal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157397
[12:50] <Fujitsu> Hi cprov.
[12:50] <cprov> Fujitsu: hi
[12:50] <Fujitsu> Any idea what's going on with the buildds lately? (bug #157397)
[12:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 157397 in soyuz "Some builds taking several times longer than normal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157397
[12:52] <cprov> Fujitsu: queue-builder is slowing the entirely workflow because it's busy with 15K pending builds in hardy. I'm already working on it.
[12:53] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[12:53] <Fujitsu> That even affects builds that are currently happening?
[12:55] <cprov> Fujitsu: of course, because while queue-builder is running slave-scanner is blocked.
[12:56] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[12:56] <cprov> very inefficient :(
[12:56] <Fujitsu> And queue-builder only runs when publisher isn't, right?
[13:05] <cprov> Fujitsu: no, we removed this constraint in 1.1.9
[13:05] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[13:05] <cprov> Fujitsu: it runs every 15 minutes (and usually takes 12 minutes to run)
[13:05] <Fujitsu> The only documentation I've seen is old bugs, so that would do it.
[13:07] <Fujitsu> How long is it taking to run now? ~40?
[13:07] <cprov> ~ 50
[13:07] <Fujitsu> Ouch.
[13:10] <ubotu> New bug: #157410 in malone "Make the +bugs-text view work for people and teams" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157410
[14:16] <Fujitsu> cprov: Am I missing something, or is https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/+builds contradicting itself?
[14:17] <cprov> Fujitsu: why ?
[14:17] <Fujitsu> `No packages currently building.'
[14:18] <cprov> Fujitsu: was it temporary ? weird
[14:19] <Fujitsu> cprov: Oh, nothing is actually building now, but it listed a package and said it had nothing building before.
[14:19] <cprov> Fujitsu: yes, I saw it, then reloaded and it was gone
[14:50] <kiko> Daviey, ping
[14:56] <Tonio_> hi there
[14:56] <Tonio_> is there someone who can drop an upload done on my ppa please ?
[15:00] <Daviey> kiko: pong
[16:46] <Hobbsee> kiko-fud: why'd the ppa session get cancelled?
[16:57] <stdin> Hobbsee: because the person giving the talk couldn't be found
[16:57] <Hobbsee> stdin: fun.  i guess that's why he's -fud'ing
[17:11] <hellboy195> hoi
[17:11] <hellboy195> Shouldn't it now be possible to remove packages from the ppa in the new launchpad version? I haven't discovered it yet :(
[17:14] <Hobbsee> bigjools: heya.  seeing as you've fixed the mail bug for the queue, any chance you could fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120052 as well, to make it actually usable?  thanks!
[17:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120052 in soyuz "Component mapping for new source packages" [Medium,Confirmed] 
[17:14] <mimilus> plop
[17:14] <mimilus> I'm french so sorry for my language
[17:15] <mimilus> I'm using gimp 2.4 RC3 in ubuntu gutsy
[17:15] <bigjools> Hobbsee: I haven't fixed anything yet
[17:15] <mimilus> I think i've found a bug
[17:15] <Hobbsee> bigjools: oh, i thougth i saw a status mail from you.
[17:15] <mimilus> Where must i put it
[17:15] <bigjools> "in progress"
[17:15] <Hobbsee> oh, it got set to in progress.  the *other* one got set to fix committed :)
[17:15] <Hobbsee> my bad :)
[17:16] <bigjools> get some sleep ;)
[17:17] <Hobbsee> bigjools: i should, yes.  however, i'm looking at doing this computing assignment.
[17:17] <bigjools> Hobbsee: that bug is scheduled for 1.1.12 (ie in 2 months), if you want its priority raised, ask kiko
[17:18] <Hobbsee> bigjools: oh, i thoguth that was 1 month.
[17:18] <bigjools> 1.1.10 just got released
[17:18] <Hobbsee> i thought you guys just released .11.  seems i'm going crazy.
[17:18] <Hobbsee> guess that's logical, and all :)
[17:19]  * bigjools goes back to urgent bug fixing
[17:26] <kiko-fud> Hobbsee, stdin: who was giving the PPA session? me? :)
[17:26] <Hobbsee> kiko-fud: seems so.
[17:26] <Hobbsee> bigjools: sorry for bothering you
[17:26] <kiko> Hobbsee, oops!
[17:26] <stdin> I think cprov
[17:26] <Hobbsee> oh, cprov
[17:27] <Hobbsee> damn, i suck tonight.
[17:27]  * Hobbsee sighs.
[17:27] <Hobbsee> kiko: you didnt happen to steal my brain, did yoU?
[17:27] <ScottK> Hobbsee: It's that computer assignment calling you.  Better get to it...
[17:27] <cprov> it was supposed to be me, I apologize
[17:28] <Hobbsee> ScottK: it'll just make me make stupid mistakes, most liekly
[17:28] <ddaa> "kiko stole my brain" will be my official blanket excuse from now on
[17:32] <Hobbsee> ddaa: sounds good.  
[17:32] <Hobbsee> ddaa: also effective is "$myboss stole my tuesday, which is why i'm 3 hours late today"
[17:33] <ddaa> those kind of excuse do not work to well here
[17:34] <Hobbsee> ddaa: pity.  worked for uni, though.
[17:38] <ddaa> reviewer: "ddaa: this line violate the coding style, does not do what it appears to try doing, and even if it did, it would be doing the wrong thing"
[17:38] <ddaa> ddaa: "Sorry, kiko stole my brain."
[17:39] <Hobbsee> hehe :)
[17:40] <ddaa> Works better than "ddaa: Sorry, thumper stole my Tuesday", "reviewer: What do you mean? You managed to wake up before Wednesday this week?"
[17:41] <Hobbsee> hahaha
[17:45] <ubotu> New bug: #157488 in malone "Add bugwatch support to the Jira bugtracker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157488
[17:55] <jam-laptop> Is there an XMLRPC for setting the status of a branch?
[17:55] <jam-laptop> We have a whole lot of branches in: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/bzr
[17:55] <jam-laptop> And a lot of them are actually merged
[17:55] <jam-laptop> I would like to write a script which just goes through them
[17:56] <jam-laptop> and checks if the tip revision has been merged, and update the branch to recognize this
[17:57] <kiko> not yet.
[17:57] <kiko> but soon!
[17:57] <jam-laptop> of course, if you guys would do it yourself
[17:57] <jam-laptop> I wouldn't have to write the script
[18:04] <jam-laptop> kiko: Is it intended that if a user registers a branch to mirror
[18:04] <jam-laptop> then someone else cannot register that same branch?
[18:04] <jam-laptop> Right now jml has registered a mirror of our official bzr.0.91 branch
[18:04] <jam-laptop> And I would like to have it registered as ~bzr
[18:06] <kiko> jam-laptop, hmm. I'm not sure. can you ask ddaa, mwhudson   or thumper? that sounds annoying!
[18:07] <ddaa> jam-laptop: that's somewhat intentional
[18:07] <jam-laptop> so people can hijack my branches?
[18:07] <jam-laptop> And then I cannot assert control over them?
[18:07] <ddaa> kiko: please reassign this branch to the bzr team
[18:07] <ddaa> jml was at fault for not reassigning it himself
[18:07] <jam-laptop> All I'm really trying to do is mark the branch as Mature, but it should really be owned by the bzr team
[18:07] <kiko> :)
[18:08] <kiko> ddaa, jam-laptop: which URL?
[18:08] <ddaa> jam-laptop: the real bug is that we do not have a "bazaar experts" team that can do this sort of administrative gardening
[18:08] <jam-laptop> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/bzr/bzr.0.91
[18:08] <jam-laptop> Should be ~bzr/bzr/bzr.0.91 or ~bzr/bzr/0.91
[18:08] <ddaa> There are a couple of similar misowned branches
[18:09] <jam-laptop> lifeless may have just fixed it himself
[18:09] <jam-laptop> Is this a bug I should report?
[18:09] <lifeless> well I've fixed the data
[18:09] <ddaa> kiko: there's also https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ian-clatworthy/bzr/bzr.0.17
[18:10] <lifeless> but the problem from a UI pov is that the author field does notlet the author garden the branch
[18:10] <ddaa> and https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ian-clatworthy/bzr/bzr.0.18
[18:11] <ddaa> jam-laptop: launchpad is built on the assumption that people act responsibly, and difference can be resolved
[18:11] <jam-laptop> and https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jw+debian/bzr/bzr.0.90
[18:11] <lifeless> they are not neceassarily problems unless the author is bazaar develoeprs
[18:11] <ddaa> and we do not have to have redundant objects (for various reasons)
[18:11] <lifeless> I think the limit to one branhc per source url is nuts
[18:11] <lifeless> but thats just me
[18:11] <kiko> Page not found
[18:11] <ddaa> for example, you should be able to identify a branch in a form by its source url
[18:12] <ddaa> lifeless: I think it's the launchpad way
[18:12] <lifeless> kiko: what page is no found? the jml one I have changed already
[18:13] <kiko> ah
[18:13] <ddaa> brb IRL interrupt
[18:13]  * ddaa is already at third-level interrupt
[18:15] <jam-laptop> Is there a way to switch a milestone to a different release series?
[18:17]  * ddaa is back
[18:20] <persia> Hello.  I was advised I should ask here to request an @ubuntu.com email address.
[18:28] <mdke> persia: are you Emmet Hikory?
[18:29] <mdke> (your ircname doesn't say)
[18:30] <persia> mdke: Yes.
[18:30] <Ubulette> woww, 300+ language-pack in queue for ppa, that will take days :P
[18:31] <mdke> persia: then it should be persia@ubuntu.com, give it a try
[18:31] <persia> mdke: It didn't work a couple days ago.  Did you just flip a switch?
[18:32] <mdke> persia: no, it should work automatically as launchpad_username@ubuntu.com with membership in the "Ubuntu Members" team
[18:32] <persia> mdke: It should.  It's been a few months :)
[18:32] <mdke> elmo: does it work with indirect members (e.g. through -motu)?
[18:32] <persia> That's why it was suggested I ask in here.
[18:32] <mdke> elmo is your man for that. See if you can catch him at some stage
[18:33] <mdke> possibly because you're not a direct member it isn't working
[18:34] <persia> mdke: That might make sense.  Thanks.  I presume that after the 5th would be best.
[18:34] <mdke> guess so, unless you are going to the conference
[18:36] <persia> mdke: No - I won't make it this time.  In the spring maybe.
[19:32] <fosstux> Hi! How can I set options for my project?
[19:32] <fosstux> and where?
[20:02] <fosstux> Does Launchpad offer the feature to download files as tar.gz?
[20:03] <LaserJock> fosstux: I think so yes
[20:04] <fosstux> well: when I clock onto Link to other Package, I only can select ubuntu as the distribution series...
[20:04] <fosstux> where else is this possible=?
[20:07] <fosstux> If I cannot upload my own tar.gz to be hosted then launchpad is not for me.
[20:08] <LaserJock> you can
[20:08] <LaserJock> it's just a matter of figuring out where
[20:09] <LaserJock> fosstux: you are the owner of the project in Launchpad?
[20:09] <fosstux> yes
[20:09] <fosstux> well - actualy a project team I created
[20:09] <LaserJock> then I think it should be there somewhere
[20:10] <LaserJock> but do you have a registerd project?
[20:10] <fosstux> yes: https://launchpad.net/lila-theme
[20:11] <fosstux> I'm the owner of a project team and the I'm a member of that team 
[20:11] <LaserJock> I think you might be able to add files to a series
[20:12] <LaserJock> so do you see anything at https://launchpad.net/lila-theme/trunk about uploading files?
[20:13] <fosstux> no
[20:14] <fosstux> Change details * Appoint driver * Edit source * Link to Ubuntu package * Link to other package * Add milestone * Register a release * Download RDF metadata
[20:16] <fosstux> another thing that is funny: I have pushed to release 2, but:
[20:16] <fosstux> Revision control details: None given
[20:17] <fosstux> I cannot find anything about tar.gz....
[20:17] <fosstux> I'm going to delete my Project and my accounts. Good Bye.
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #157528 in rosetta "Export script failures" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157528
[20:37] <fosstux> Hi! How can I delete my project teams, my projects and then my account?
[20:38] <LaserJock> fosstux: you might want to talk to a Launchpad administrator first
[20:39] <fosstux> no thanks...
[20:39] <LaserJock> well, I think they have to delete teams
[20:39] <LaserJock> I think you can delete your own account though
[20:40] <ubotu> New bug: #157533 in launchpad "Wishlist: anchor for linking to comment within bug page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157533
[20:41] <LaserJock> fosstux: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/ is the place to ask questions
[20:41] <fosstux> tha
[20:41] <fosstux> nks
[20:41] <LaserJock> or email the launchpad-users list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
[20:42] <LaserJock> fosstux: sorry I'm not much help, I'm just a normal user
[20:43] <fosstux> no problem
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #157540 in rosetta "POExport and POTExport include msgids based on outdated POMsgIDSightings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157540
[22:03] <Ubulette> how can I rename a project ? webrunner -> prism : https://edge.launchpad.net/webrunner
[22:06] <matsubara> Ubulette: asking a LP admin in: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[22:07] <Ubulette> nothing I can do myself ?
[22:08] <matsubara> Ubulette: unfortunately no
[22:08] <Ubulette> ok, thanks
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #157561 in launchpad "PPA sources.list entries only lists 'main' even if packages are available elsewhere" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157561