[03:32] any of you guys who have trouble with composition, this is a nice simple resource to help you out http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71673 [03:33] thx :) [04:07] nothlit: Phi phi phi... it is why those photos of an unnamed person were so clunky. [04:07] nothlit: PHI! [04:07] lol [04:07] or oversimplify down to the rule of thirds. *sigh* [04:39] thinking about the 2d placement of the key object in a piece is great, but theres other parts of it too =p [04:39] i'd rather people think about it [04:40] nothlit: Yes, but in the end, I would probably make a case that people can improve their work threefold simply by abiding by phi. [04:41] nothlit: It took the Renaissance to shift the mindset, and we have been living with examples of it everywhere and all around us since. [04:41] nothlit: Even more avant-garde composition relies on the principles of standard composition -- albeit in the inverse generally. [04:42] troy_s: ok [04:42] GOLDEN RATIO EVERYBODY [04:42] nothlit: Not the junk Ubuntu CENTERPUNCH HELL [04:42] CENTERPUNCH EVERYTHING [04:42] yikes. [04:42] lol [04:42] lol [04:42] freak [04:43] but i do want them to know about other things, then they can get to directionality and values and cool/warm and whatnot =p [04:43] nothlit: Well ... let's see... composition, colour, content, context? [04:44] nothlit: Something like the five c's but I can't honestly remember the other... or was it four? [04:44] lol [04:45] i dunno, i discard mnemonic devices once i've internalised things [04:47] nothlit: I think I had mnemonic once... took a pill and it went away. [05:41] nothlit, FIBONACCI NUMBERS [05:50] lol [05:51] Next up: A Dan Brown novel. [06:01] s/novel/pile of barely-readable glurge [23:56] http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1766321024&size=o <-- he he. shall I make my pc bleed till it begs for mercy? :P