[00:01] <PriceChild> is mao42 talking about me?
[00:45] <elkbuntu> have trypglyph and Acglaphotis been behaving like this all day?
[00:51] <mneptok> elkbuntu: have been watching only the past 15m or so. no time to check scrool.
[00:52] <mneptok> (sorry, busy ATM)
[00:52] <elkbuntu> no prob
[00:52] <elkbuntu> they're just trolling anyway
[01:05] <mneptok> apparently all tryp needs is another y-chromosomer grabbing his nutsack and squeezing
[01:06]  * mneptok strokes elkbuntu while administering chocolate
[01:06] <elkbuntu> he'd do well from my foot applied to his rectal opening too
[01:07]  * mneptok administers more chocolate
[01:07] <elkbuntu> this is the good stuff right, not cheap crap?
[01:07] <mneptok> not worth your energy, hon. it's like God interrupting creation of the universe for a "Married: With Children" rerun
[01:08] <mneptok> oh, you don't know about my family ;)
[01:08] <Daviey> rectal and choclate should _not_ be discussed at the same time!
[01:08] <mneptok> my paternal grandfather was a famous New York chocolatier
[01:08] <Tm_T> I'm infamous chocolate eater
[01:09]  * Daviey fetches the choc cookies
[01:09] <elkbuntu> mneptok, but but but... i need to cause someone pain every day until i get a new job :(
[01:09] <Tm_T> Jethro Tull - Only Solitaire
[01:09] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, no, sorry, curiouscat outranks you there
[01:09] <mneptok> elkbuntu: the fact you exist, but are not naked beside me, makes every waking moment of my life SHEER AGONY
[01:09]  * mneptok hopes that helps a bit
[01:09] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: sorry, you lost me there
[01:10] <elkbuntu> gyaraahhh
[01:10] <elkbuntu> hello fork, meet eye
[01:10] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, on average how much chocolate do you consume in a week
[01:10] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: as much as I can get, from none to few kg
[01:11] <Tm_T> I also do eat plain sugar
[01:11]  * Tm_T forks mneptok's eye
[01:11] <Tm_T> oh looky! freak!
[01:11] <elkbuntu> hmm... you're a close second then... she's more consistant
[01:11] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, no, not his eye, mine
[01:12] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: you know whats the painful part?
[01:12] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, eh?
[01:12] <Tm_T> people keep telling me "eat more"
[01:12] <Tm_T> yup, I'm underweight against my own will
[01:13] <elkbuntu> heh. try stuff where the protein isnt outweighed by the sugar
[01:13] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: I do
[01:13] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: I eat pretty much normal food
[01:14] <Tm_T> and I do eat _alot_ when there's food available =)
[01:14] <Tm_T> but nah :(
[01:14] <elkbuntu> mind you, you have no idea how much i now hate you. i barely eat and i'm still frumpy. it's not fair
[01:15] <mc44> maybe if you ate Tm_T it would cancel out
[01:15] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: youre far away from my sisters
[01:15] <Tm_T> mc44: good idea :)
[01:15] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, what do you mean, far away?
[01:16] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: well my oldest sister, wide as tall
[01:16] <Tm_T> no, seriously
[01:16] <elkbuntu> so they hate you too then? :Þ
[01:17] <Tm_T> they do
[01:17] <Tm_T> we order familysize pizza, if sister eat one slice (too much in his diet) I can eat rest of it and ask whats main course
[01:18] <Tm_T> downside: I'm always hungry, and may go really weak if not get food in every few hours
[01:19] <elkbuntu> sounds like a medical condition then
[01:21] <Tm_T> yeah
[01:21] <Tm_T> but do doctors listen? no
[01:22] <Tm_T> talking about pizza, one of my friends: http://junkka.irc-galleria.net/l/images12/00/00/09/43/30537563.jpg
[01:24]  * Tm_T is good girl and eats his medication
[01:28] <elkbuntu> ewww.. my toilet is backed up
[01:29] <Tm_T> uuuh, Coca-Cola from Ubuntu mug <3
[01:30] <mneptok> the toilet backed up this afternoon. the plumber he said never flush a tampoon. 
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[01:33] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: ok, one thing that helps me to use lot of energy etc: I never fear to do sports, so I bicycle to uni, thats 25 km every day
[01:33] <Tm_T> and I play pretty much any teamsport
[01:36] <ubotu> trypglyph called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:40] <elkbuntu> mneptok, that was trypglyph trolling. there was no reason to call ops on recon to start with
[01:40] <elkbuntu> er on mrunagi
[01:43] <stefg> there's a lost chinese hiv002 in #ubuntu, which needs a forced redirect apparently
[01:44] <jrib> stefg: thanks
[01:45] <mneptok> done.
[02:02] <elkbuntu> so... how am i going to un-clog my toilet so the mess in it can flush?
[02:03] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: you dont have any device or similar to do that?
[02:03] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, oh, those big suction cap things?
[02:03] <Tm_T> http://www.tyokaluketju.fi/naytakuva.php?thumb=1&tuotenumero=IKHP392
[02:04] <elkbuntu> but is it going to work with a heap of paper and ... waste already in the bowl?
[02:05] <Tm_T> why not
[02:06] <elkbuntu> well, doesnt it rely on a seal? to work?
[02:07] <ubotu> Evanlec called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:07] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:08] <Tm_T> well you need to get it fit perfectly to seat itself
[02:09] <nalioth> elkbuntu: do you have a plunger at all?
[02:11] <elkbuntu> nalioth, no :(
[02:11] <nalioth> elkbuntu: that'd be the first step
[02:12] <nalioth> make sure you get one with a wood handle (don't buy the futuristic plastic 'let's blow the alligators back into the swamp' type)
[02:12] <elkbuntu> please tell me they're cheap
[02:13] <elkbuntu> omg trypglyph left?! yay!
[02:13] <elkbuntu> well brb buying plunger then
[02:14] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: I was just about to notify him about using nazi card too slightly
[02:38] <jdong> mneptok: btw, why do you expose the banmask before you kick?
[02:39] <jdong> doesn't it give them a good piece of info for evading it?
[02:39] <mneptok> jdong: because auto-rejoin negates it anyway
[02:40] <jdong> mneptok: that's annoying
[02:40] <mneptok> aye.
[02:47] <mneptok> nalioth: ping
[02:47] <nalioth> mneptok: KLANG!
[02:48] <mneptok> 21:44 [anpu(n=anpu@pool-71-176-31-90.nrflva.east.verizon.net)] I do have DSL. so nice try... indeeed.
[02:48] <mneptok> 21:44 [anpu(n=anpu@pool-71-176-31-90.nrflva.east.verizon.net)] 
[02:48] <mneptok> dddddddddddddddddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyynnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccccccc IP
[02:49] <mneptok> that's someone i just banned admitting they are actively evading
[02:49] <mneptok> (if you care)
[02:49] <Tm_T> mneptok: where?
[02:49] <mneptok> and it was kahrytan
[02:49] <mneptok> Tm_T: ^^
[02:49] <nalioth> still online
[02:50] <nalioth> poke me if they return
[02:50] <nalioth> we'll see
[02:50] <mneptok> they won't
[02:50] <mneptok> 21:45 -!- mode/#ubuntu-offtopic [+b *!*@pool*.nrflva.east.verizon.net] by mneptok
[02:50] <mneptok> AHAHAHAHAHHAH!
[02:50] <mneptok> 21:47 [kahrytan_(n=kahrytan@pool-71-176-31-90.nrflva.east.verizon.net)] unban me
[02:50] <mneptok> not so smug NOW, are we?
[02:51] <elkbuntu> right, so the guy at the hardware place advised i get the landlord to call a plumber in, cause it's probably only going to happen again
[02:51] <mneptok> "We can sell you a shovel to dig a temporary trench replacement ..."
[02:51] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: perhaps, perhaps not
[02:52] <nalioth> elkbuntu: but you still need a plunger (every house does)
[02:52] <Tm_T> yup
[02:52] <Tm_T> and temporary fix is better than nothing, right?
[02:53] <nalioth> quite.
[02:53] <Tm_T> I actually should buy one of those too
[02:53] <Tm_T> good tools when washing clothes
[02:54] <elkbuntu> i got one, but im not about to start plunging poop with something only a foot long
[02:54] <nalioth> so long as you have one for the Porcelain Goddess and one for the clothes
[02:54] <nalioth> you only got one with a foot long handle?  o_0
[02:54] <elkbuntu> nalioth, it's all they had, those or the springy plastic things
[02:55] <nalioth> elkbuntu: then the place sucked.
[02:55] <mneptok> %btlogin
[02:55] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[02:55] <mneptok> greeeeat
[02:55] <elkbuntu> nalioth, yeah, well welcome to where i live
[02:55] <nalioth> elkbuntu: you want one with a 4" or 5" plunger and a 2' or 3' handle
[02:55] <nalioth> a wooden handle
[02:55] <elkbuntu> everywhere sucks. we dont even have a decent non-chain pizza place around here :(
[02:56] <mneptok> elkbuntu: any fried dingo stands?
[02:56] <kahrytan_> Mneptok is abusing ops proviledges by banning people that are not breaking o4o, CoC, or irc guidelines. If I want to use hhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeelllllllllloooooooo then I can. It is not in either of those rules. I read them. 
[02:56] <elkbuntu> ha
[02:56] <mneptok> and there's some massive proof of his maturity level
[02:56] <mneptok> jesus, when *i* call you immature, you KNOW it's bad.
[02:57] <elkbuntu> was thinking the same thing
[02:57] <mneptok> i love you, too, dear. *muah*
[02:57] <mneptok> :)
[02:57] <elkbuntu> my unit is really starting to smell like poop :(
[02:58] <kahrytan_> Mneptok is abusing ops privileges by banning people that are not breaking o4o, CoC, or irc guidelines. If I want to use hhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeelllllllllloooooooo then I can. It is not in either of those rules. I read them.  This is fact. and I would like his op status moved immediately until he learns to not abuse the powers.
[02:58] <Tm_T> er
[02:58] <Tm_T> so we should deal his issue for him?
[02:58]  * mneptok sits mutely, allowing others to form their own opinions as to who is probably in the right
[02:58] <elkbuntu> >kahrytan_< we would have taken you seriously had you stayed rather than being a troll by leaving and returning then leaving. your ban stays.
[02:59] <elkbuntu> lets see how he responds to that
[03:00] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: share it then with us :))
[03:01] <elkbuntu> he hasnt responded. who is surprised?
[03:01] <mneptok> Tm_T: you slow down to pass car accidents, don't you ;)
[03:01] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: btw if I would been close enough you I could've helped you with your poop issue
[03:01] <elkbuntu> mneptok, you say that as though it's abnormal behaviour
[03:01] <Tm_T> mneptok: nope
[03:01] <Tm_T> mneptok: unless I go to help, thats only
[03:01] <mneptok> Tm_T: so it's only on IRC? ;)
[03:02] <Tm_T> mneptok: only on this channel
[03:02] <Tm_T> (or other admin stuff)
[03:02] <mneptok> AHA!
[03:02]  * mneptok scores himself a half point
[03:02] <nalioth> one more 'drive by spamming' and i'll have a talk with him
[03:03] <mneptok> nalioth: i banned him because he was fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilling the chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannel needlessly, i asked him to stop, and he refused.
[03:03] <ubotu> nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:03] <nalioth> mneptok: i know.
[03:04] <nalioth> jrib: hi
[03:04] <jrib> nalioth: hi
[03:04] <nalioth> jrib: PM?
[03:04] <jrib> nalioth: sure
[03:08] <elkbuntu> mrunagi's antics are wearing very thin...
[03:10] <mneptok> *sigh* kahrytan's /msg spam continues
[03:10] <Tm_T> what?
[03:10]  * mneptok is perilously close to /ignore
[03:10] <Tm_T> mneptok: tell him to tell me ;)
[03:10] <mneptok> 22:04 [kahrytan(n=kahrytan@pool-71-176-31-90.nrflva.east.verizon.net)]  hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:10] <mneptok> 22:06 [kahrytan(n=kahrytan@pool-71-176-31-90.nrflva.east.verizon.net)]  unban me yet?
[03:11]  * jdong starts the k-line chant
[03:11] <nalioth> mneptok: ask him to come in here, please
[03:11] <mneptok> 22:09 [msg(kahrytan)] please /join #ubuntu-ops
[03:12] <mneptok> 22:09 -!- kahrytan: No such nick/channel
[03:12] <mneptok> bah.
[03:12] <jdong> problem solved?
[03:12] <mneptok> only if abortions are retroactive.
[03:13] <Tm_T> mneptok: but they are!
[03:13] <jdong> mneptok: self-abortions don't work...
[03:13] <nalioth> no longer on the network, mneptok 
[03:14] <nalioth> you ran him off
[03:14] <Tm_T> :(
[03:14] <Tm_T> how dull end :(
[03:15] <elkbuntu> nalioth, deleted his nick and everything?
[03:15] <mneptok> nalioth: sounds like most of my dating career
[03:16] <jdong> mneptok: at least you had one :)
[03:16] <nalioth> elkbuntu: no, the IP is not here (under any nick)
[03:16] <Tm_T> mneptok: dating? whats that?
[03:16] <mneptok> jdong: i have a rich fantasy life ;)
[03:16] <elkbuntu> would someone like to back me up with mr 'can i have her for the weekend?
[03:16] <Tm_T> mneptok: kidnapping is not dating, I thought I told you this before
[03:16] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: sure
[03:16] <jdong> mneptok: I have that too, but mommy says that's wrong.
[03:17] <elkbuntu> someone who can back up with some authority?
[03:17] <jdong> HAHAHA
[03:18] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: hey! my carisma is my authority?!
[03:18] <Tm_T> another ban evader there btw =)
[03:18] <nalioth> Tm_T: nick? info?
[03:19] <Tm_T> nalioth: nah, wide ban enough done
[03:19] <Tm_T> apparentl
[03:19] <Tm_T> y
[03:19]  * mneptok flexes
[03:19] <Tm_T> mneptok: you're getting skilled on this =)
[03:20] <elkbuntu> mneptok, you may have some collatoral in that...
[03:20] <elkbuntu> n=jackfros h4606f3f0.area1.spcsdns.net irc.freenode.net xipietotec H :0 xochitlcocoayoh
[03:21] <Madpilot_> umm.... "mrunagi (n=unagi@015-996-981.area7.spcsdns.net) has joined #ubuntu"
[03:21] <mneptok> elkbuntu: on it
[03:21] <mneptok> elkbuntu: just spoke to xipi. he's cool.
[03:21] <elkbuntu> was he area 7 before too?
[03:21] <Tm_T> Madpilot_: left
[03:22] <elkbuntu> yep, just nuke the area7s
[03:23] <elkbuntu> there's only one other area7 on atm and they're not in any linuxy channels
[03:25] <elkbuntu> btw, he is likely to start trolling #ubuntu sooner or later
[03:25] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: if he's there
[03:26] <elkbuntu> he is
[03:26] <Tm_T> ah back
[03:26] <elkbuntu> he keeps joining and changing his nick
[03:31] <jdong> mneptok: xipi's cool -- he hangs out in #uf a lot; definitely not the same guy as the troll
[03:32] <jdong> 22:32 < pieisgood4589> wuzzuppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[03:33] <jdong> just spammed #uf
[03:33] <Tm_T> oh not again...
[03:33] <Tm_T> you know whats only missing now?
[03:34] <elkbuntu> mr nalioth pummelling him with love?
[03:34] <Tm_T> no, wii
[03:34] <jdong> w
[03:34] <jdong> i
[03:34] <jdong> i
[03:34] <jdong> !
[03:34] <jdong> ow!
[03:34]  * Tm_T hugs #ubuntu-ops 
[03:35] <nalioth> and they want me to kline spammers in other channels . . . 
[03:35] <elkbuntu> lol
[03:38] <nalioth> jdong: i'm in (on average) 80 channels
[03:38] <jdong> nalioth: wow
[03:38] <jdong> how do you keep track of them all?
[03:38] <nalioth> what do you think i think when i channel hop and see that kind of stuff?
[03:39] <nalioth> especially when i'm chasing spamming trolls?
[03:42] <mneptok> jdong: i know. xipi and i go back a ways.
[03:42] <mneptok> (but thanks)
[03:43]  * Tm_T is on 60 channels currently
[03:43] <Tm_T> no, 50
[03:43] <Tm_T> humm or was it 60... anyway
[03:45] <elkbuntu> woot... 5 days til my birthday... who's buying me presents?
[03:45] <mneptok> elkbuntu: i am! i won't /msg you for 30 days!
[03:46] <mneptok> how's THAT for thoughtful?!
[03:46] <Tm_T> birthday... never done or have anything related to it
[03:46] <elkbuntu> lol
[03:46] <Tm_T> whats the fuss on it anyway
[03:46] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, in the words of the nanny... i believe in anything that delivers
[03:47] <Tm_T> ?
[03:47] <elkbuntu> the tv show
[03:47] <Tm_T> dont know it
[03:47] <elkbuntu> she's jewish, yet believes in santa because he 'delivers'
[03:47] <Tm_T> I se
[03:47] <Tm_T> e
[03:48] <Tm_T> well, I havent done anything christmas related either
[03:48] <Tm_T> nor will
[03:48] <elkbuntu> basically, im not going to knock anything that gets me stuff
[03:48] <Tm_T> true
[03:48] <Tm_T> me neither, as long as it doesnt have bad label
[03:50] <Tm_T> but never had anything with bad label either =)
[03:50] <mneptok> obstetricians also deliver
[03:50] <Tm_T> mailman too
[03:51] <Tm_T> if nothing else, tax bills
[03:52] <Tm_T> that reminds one funny thing I heard
[03:53] <Tm_T> "oh you poor child, never had christmas presents"
[03:53] <Tm_T> yeah, I'm ruined =)
[03:53] <Tm_T> breakfast 2 ->
[04:42] <elkbuntu> grrr... why is my landlord going to wait until he knocks off work to come fix my toilet... cant he just call a plumber so i dont have to smell poop all day?! :(
[04:42] <nalioth> WHAT? and lose money paying for the plumber, when he _may_ be able to do it himself?
[04:43] <elkbuntu> but the poop smell is really.... poopy :(
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: Sounds like you're having a great week.
[04:43] <mneptok> elkbuntu: got any suntan oil/cream? cologne?
[04:43] <mneptok> elkbuntu: take a little and rub it on your septum.
[04:43] <tritium> yay, imap on gmail...
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> tritium: I'm confused - why is that such a big deal?
[04:44] <tritium> tonyyarusso: I _hate_ webmail.  I much prefer a local client.
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> tritium: I've been using POP3 with Gmail since it launched.
[04:45] <tritium> I don't like POP either.
[04:45] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: he hates POP  
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> why?
[04:45] <nalioth> tritium: tell us, just what is so good about imap?
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> With IMAP you can't read stuff without an internet connection...
[04:45] <tritium> Sure you can.
[04:46] <tritium> Have your client keep copies.
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> then how is it different to have IMAP?
[04:47]  * nalioth shines the spotlight on tritium 
[04:48] <nalioth> c'mon, spill it!
[04:48] <tritium> sheesh :)
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> We're waiting.
[04:48] <tritium> personal preference, I guess
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> but what's to prefer???
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> What is the difference?
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> (other than being slower)
[04:49] <nalioth> tell us tell us tell us
[04:51]  * nalioth turns off the spotlight and puts it away
[04:51] <tritium> I access my mail from multiple computers.  POP deletes from the server, or if you don't, then on each client, I have to delete the same messages.
[04:52] <tritium> That's the main annoyance.
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> Okay, the latter point I'll accept.
[04:53] <tritium> If I delete message A from one client, I don't want to see it again (and have to delete it again) in client B.
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> Just as ou can have an IMAP client keep copies, you can have a POP server keep copies.
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> The deletion makes sense though.
[04:54] <tritium> That's the main advantage for me.
[04:54] <nalioth> tritium: because you use 14 computers to check your email
[04:54] <Tm_T> main idea of IMAP is that you dont need local copy
[04:54] <tritium> nalioth: no, just two, sometimes three
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> I love how Gmail still says "Beta"....
[05:01] <Tm_T> I hate the way people began to think "Beta" means "free test version" too often
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[05:01] <Tm_T> "hey, my KDE4 is crashy!"
[05:01] <Tm_T> really?
[05:02] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:03]  * nalioth wonders if he has imap
[05:03] <Tm_T> nalioth: perhaps you have n-map
[05:03] <nalioth> i definitely have nmap (and i use it often)
[05:04] <Tm_T> neat
[05:04]  * Tm_T wants his own t-map
[05:06] <nalioth> nope, no imap yet
[05:07] <Tm_T> :/
[05:09] <tritium> but nalioth, you shined the spotlight so brightly, I didn't think you wanted imap
[05:10] <nalioth> tritium: i've never in my life had access to an imap mail server
[05:10] <nalioth> tritium: how will i know if i want it or not?
[05:10] <tritium> nalioth: you haven't?  Well, try it out.
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> tritium: All right, so were is this IMAP setup so I can check it out?
[05:10] <Tm_T> I have several imaps and gmail as pop
[05:10]  * tonyyarusso will see what happens
[05:12] <tritium> nalioth: http://www.engin.umich.edu/caen/faqs/Email/POPVSIMAP/whyimap/
[05:15] <nalioth> just what you said, tritium 
[05:15] <tritium> tonyyarusso: sorry, in Settings
[05:15] <nalioth> i can see no functional difference in what i'm getting now
[05:16] <tritium> nalioth: perhaps you'd prefer to read this: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.brief.html
[05:17] <tritium> tonyyarusso: if it still just says "Forwarding and POP," then you haven't been setup for it yet.
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> tritium: how long are they taking to roll it out?
[05:17] <tritium> not sure
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> Forwarding and POP/IMAP
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> looks like I have it
[05:18] <tritium> Yes, you do.
[05:28] <nalioth> thanks, tritium, i'm going to bed now.
[05:28] <tritium> good night, nalioth.
[05:30] <nalioth> that last URL bored my left eye completely to sleep, and the right eye is wavering
[05:31] <tritium> heh
[05:31]  * tritium never claimed it was interesting.  You just wanted more detail.
[06:11] <mneptok> nalioth: maybe this will revive you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI
[06:16] <elkbuntu> mneptok, that one never ceases to amuse
[06:17] <mneptok> elkbuntu: seen Zlad's "Elektronik Supersonik?"
[06:17] <mneptok> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp_PIjc2ga4
[06:17] <elkbuntu> mneptok, nope?
[06:18] <elkbuntu> is this guy Borat's cousin or brother or something?
[06:19] <mneptok> Aussie, actually ;)
[06:19] <elkbuntu> the guy looks familiar, but not a clue who it is
[06:20] <mneptok> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlad
[06:21] <mneptok> west virginia?
[06:24] <elkbuntu> could have been on Full Frontal i suppose. they used to have crazy stuff like that on there
[06:26] <elkbuntu> this was also on full frontal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqFcdz4gGKA see if you recognise anyone
[06:34] <elkbuntu> mneptok, ^^
[06:35] <mneptok> kroist, when was that?!
[06:35] <mneptok> Poida ain't no Hulk ;)
[06:35] <elkbuntu> like 10 years ago
[06:35] <elkbuntu> he aint no hector either
[06:35] <mneptok> damned roit
[06:36] <mneptok> fuck! e's got mo dooen eet
[06:36] <mneptok> buggah!
[06:36] <elkbuntu> hehe
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | mneptok 
[06:36] <ubotu> mneptok: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:36] <elkbuntu> his segments were totally classic
[06:36] <mneptok> "keep?"
[06:36] <mneptok> uhh ... we been reading the same -ops, tony? :)
[06:37] <elkbuntu> but anyway, that's how he started his career
[06:37] <mneptok> Poida.
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: prolly not :P
[06:37] <elkbuntu> yep
[06:37] <mneptok> Punkin Oida
[06:37] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, what aussie tv did i introduce you to yesterday?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> . !ohmy-#ubuntu-ops is <reply> Please, um, oh forget it, I give up.
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> :P
[06:38] <elkbuntu> ah, the chaser's war on everything
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: ya
[06:39] <elkbuntu> mneptok, http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+chaser&search=Search
[06:40] <mneptok> need nicotine. after.
[06:40]  * mneptok just rolled
[06:48] <mneptok> elkbuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8XpYCB9vi0
[06:49] <elkbuntu> yeah, they got arrested and charged for that
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: awww
[06:51] <mneptok> elkbuntu: really?! suck.
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> ahahahaha
[06:54] <crdlb> could someone do something about moss please? :)
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> yes
[06:55] <crdlb> thanks :)
[06:56] <crdlb> I wasn't sure if that was !ops-worthy
[06:56] <crdlb> I guess it was
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> crdlb: Or just a "make sure tony's awake-worthy - it hilighted me anyway
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Um, put a close-" in there
[06:56] <elkbuntu> ops is worth it if the person is being disruptive, and you direct the ops at the culprit
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Ooooo, nice PMs now 
[07:00] <elkbuntu> mneptok, this is a pretty funny one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: You were the one that played around with Claws for a while, right?
[07:02] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: yep
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: Was that with Feisty?  I remember you said there were stability issues.
[07:05] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: the biggest issue was the "*what* mail you imported yesterday?!" thing
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: I don't remember that well - elaborate?
[07:07] <mneptok> i have a ton of saved mail in nested dirs. Claws would import it, and a random # of launches later the mail would not be there.
[07:07] <mneptok> like ... not be there. Claws uses maildir, and the messages were *poof*
[07:07]  * crdlb <3's regular sylpheed
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> weird
[07:10] <mneptok> 314M    ./Local Folders
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Oh, btw, Google's SSL cert is signed by Thawte, for trivia purposes
[07:10] <mneptok> my mail store is not trivial
[07:10] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: not surprising, as they probably need to easily deploy certs worldwide.
[07:16] <Tm_T> hmmmh
[08:39] <elkbuntu> yay, pipes cleared now
[08:39] <elkbuntu> my unit now smells like a full on sewer
[08:44] <Tm_T> :))
[08:47] <PriceChild> erm.... yay
[08:47] <Tm_T> its delightful indeed
[09:41] <JanC> SSL certs signed by Verisign or Thawte or similar are bogus anyway
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> eh?
[10:10] <JanC> tonyyarusso: I know that I got an SSL-certificate signed by Thawte for a non-existent company in 2000
[10:10] <JanC> since then, I don't trust most CA anymore...
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> err, why?
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> (did you do it)
[10:11] <Daviey> tonyyarusso: S**t's and giggles i guess
[10:11] <Daviey> !ohmy > Daviey
[10:41] <Moniker42> hey, could someone op me in #ubuntu-uk-chat please? the channel was registered, and then unregistered, messed up op modes i think
[10:44] <JanC> tonyyarusso: my boss planned to start a new company (on his wife's name) to replace the company I was working for and which was going to be bankrupt
[10:44] <Hobbsee> Moniker42: looks like you'll need to register it.  or find a staffer
[10:45] <Moniker42> Hobbsee, i tried registering it... said i needed ops to register =\
[10:45] <JanC> but the new company didn't exist yet (it could take up to 3 months to start a new company back then) and he wanted to get the new site designed on the expenses of the company going bankrupt
[10:46] <JanC> so Thawte asked us for a confirmation fax with the logotype/masthead of the new company
[10:47] <JanC> so then I designed the new logotype and we faxed them
[10:47] <JanC> ... after which we got the signed certificate
[10:48] <JanC> now, I hope you understand why I don't trust CAs anymore...
[10:48] <tomaw> Moniker42: you'll have to talk to seveas abotu that
[10:49] <Seeker`> tomaw: I think its sorted now
[10:50] <Moniker42> tomaw, already sorted
[10:50] <Moniker42> for some reason having only one person in the channel could do it...
[11:05] <Hobbsee> pleia2: you suck.
[11:05] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:06] <pleia2> wut!
[11:06] <pleia2> what did I do this time? :)
[11:10] <Hobbsee> pleia2: :)
[11:10] <Hobbsee> pleia2: see /query
[12:33] <PriceChild> !away > Mez 
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: he's been told before.  Lots.
[12:35] <PriceChild> I know :P
[12:35] <PriceChild> maybe we should create a #ubuntu-get-rid-of-your-damn-away-message-boy-o!
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> :)
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> where'd he do it even?
[12:36] <PriceChild> Does that guy _ever_ say anything?
[12:37] <Pici> no
[12:37] <Pici> I really think its a bot
[12:43] <Pici> Its definitly a bot... theres another user at the same host with a similar nickname mashroom_45 idling in -offtopic
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> A mirc bot?
[12:45] <Pici> Its weird, but I can't come up with any other ideas.
[12:57] <Pici> mezzzzzzz
[13:00] <tonyyarusso> Pici: where?
[13:01] <Pici> tonyyarusso: just making noises about the 
[13:01] <Pici> |away stuff
[13:01] <Pici> I need more caffeine... can't type
[13:02]  * jussi01 hands Pici: a caffeine drip
[13:03] <tonyyarusso> Pici: how long have you been up?
[13:03] <Pici> tonyyarusso: only 2 hours. Just tired though.
[13:04] <tonyyarusso> ah
[13:04]  * tonyyarusso just pulled an all-nighter for no reason and now gets to go to work :P
[13:07] <jussi01> !killhim | Mez:
[13:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killhim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <jussi01> sigh...
[13:17] <Hobbsee> darn.
[13:18]  * jussi01 hugs Hobbsee:
[13:18] <Hobbsee> :)
[13:18] <jussi01> Hobbsee: I havent heard darn used for years!
[13:19] <Hobbsee> really?
[13:19] <jussi01> (such an aussie word)
[13:19] <jussi01> Hobbsee: I am now located in Finland, havent been living in oz for around 3½ years...
[13:20] <Pici> I use darn, and I'm not an aussie
[13:20] <jussi01> Pici: really? wow...
[13:21] <jussi01> Pici: never heard it here or in ireland...
[13:21] <jussi01> oh someone ban him...
[13:21] <Amaranth> darn is what you say when it's not appropriate to say god damnit
[13:22] <jussi01> hmmm, how do I just mute someone in a channel? (ie. a bot)?
[13:22] <Amaranth> +q
[13:22] <Amaranth> or +b %
[13:34] <Amaranth> anyone else get dropped by that one?
[13:35] <tonyyarusso> I just disconnected from something....
[13:35] <jussi01> Amaranth: it seems a few did...
[13:36] <tonyyarusso> what happened?
[13:36] <jussi01> Amaranth: if you are really interested.. :P http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42215/
[13:36] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: small netsplit by the looks of it...
[13:36] <tonyyarusso> jussi01: oh, ok
[13:36] <Amaranth> well first my router curled up in a ball and cried from the hit of 1400 people or whatever going away in #ubuntu then when i whipped it and told it to get back to work i couldn't get past the 'checking ident' part of connecting
[13:36]  * tonyyarusso broke his system, yay!
[13:37] <jussi01> well done...
[13:38] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: in soviet russia, the system breaks you...
[13:38] <tonyyarusso> "Software index is broken"
[13:38] <tonyyarusso> I can't use apt
[13:39] <tonyyarusso> How can I say "Force remove this package even if dpkg has errors"?
[13:39] <jussi01> ok, im going home. see tyou all.
[13:41] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: dpkg --configure -a ?
[13:41] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: no
[13:43] <tonyyarusso> #@$%#%#(*^
[13:43] <jrib> pass --force-all I guess?
[13:43] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: hrm
[13:43] <Amaranth> If the DB is corrupt...
[13:43] <Amaranth> there is a backup?
[13:44] <tonyyarusso> of apt?
[13:44] <tonyyarusso> doubt it
[13:44] <Amaranth> apt isn't your problem
[13:44] <Amaranth> dpkg is
[13:44] <tonyyarusso> jrib: nope
[13:44] <tonyyarusso> There's an error restarting apache2, and therefore it won't remove the package
[13:44] <jrib> so use the "exit 0" trick
[13:45] <Amaranth> oh, you said your dpkg database was corrupt
[13:45] <tonyyarusso> what's that jrib ?
[13:45] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: that's one of the many errors I've gotten, from different things
[13:46] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2.postrm or something
[13:46] <jrib> tonyyarusso: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2*  (find the right one)
[13:47] <tonyyarusso> jrib: what am I doing?
[13:48] <jrib> tonyyarusso: one of the lines is responsible for restarting apache, you want to stop that from happening.  either comment it out or add "exit 0" right above the part that restarts apache if that is the last thing done in the script
[13:48] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: sticking an 'exit 0' somewhere near the top so the script shuts the hell up and goes away
[14:13] <tonyyarusso> works now - clever manipulation of order
[15:12] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu
[15:53] <jdong> !test
[15:53] <jdong> bot down?
[15:53] <jdong> oh duh, netsplitted
[15:54] <jdong> didn;'t come back?
[15:54] <LjL> jdong: no, i don't know why, but it won't come back...
[15:54] <LjL> ubotwo didn't come back either, it couldn't connect to irc.freenode.net (don't know precisely *which* server it was trying, but it just got stuck on trying)
[15:55] <LjL> i had to manually connect it to a known-working server
[15:55] <LjL> Ubotwo: join #ubuntuforums
[15:55] <jdong> odd
[15:56] <jdong> can we get him in -devel and -motu?
[15:56] <jdong> people are trying to use the bug tracker
[15:57] <LjL> Ubotwo: join #ubuntu-motu
[15:57] <LjL> Ubotwo: part #ubuntu-motu
[16:00] <nalioth> jdong: if ubotu returns, just /remove ubot3 please (if it doesn't leave on its own)  :)
[16:01] <jdong> nalioth: ok
[16:01] <jdong> *wonders how he /removes on -devel/-motu*
[16:01] <nalioth> you poke an op to do so  :)
[16:01] <jdong> nalioth: sounds good
[16:10]  * Hobbsee is around, for that.
[16:33]  * MenZa pokes Pici.
[16:33] <MenZa> :)=
[16:33]  * Pici pokes MenZa 
[16:35]  * jdong cries a bit...
[16:35] <jdong> they're blasting T-Pain in the donut shop...
[16:35] <jdong> if you can even call it "blasting"
[16:37] <no0tic> ah, sorry
[16:37]  * no0tic is an -it op ;)
[16:43] <stdin> no magic yet?
[16:44]  * Pici remembers no0tic, for once ;)
[16:45] <no0tic> stdin, I'm developing a perl script to automessage here when I join :)
[16:45] <stdin> hehe
[16:47] <stdin> we need Seveas, nalioth, Hobbsee or apokryphos to put you on the access list
[16:47] <Hobbsee> enocontext.
[16:47] <jdong> Hobbsee: no0tic is an op in -it
[16:47] <jdong> voice tag thingie
[16:48] <Hobbsee> ah
[16:48] <jdong> (he's been confused with an idler a hilarious number of times)
[16:48] <jdong> it's almost funnier if we keep it this way ;-)
[16:50] <no0tic> jdong, yes :) it's not a problem :)
[16:51] <jdong> ubotu!
[16:51] <jdong> ubotu: green tuna is really bad to eat
[16:51] <PriceChild> Give it 30 minutes and I'll ask you again no0tic.
[16:51] <jdong> nope not alive yet
[16:51] <no0tic> PriceChild, ahah :)
[16:53] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jdong said: ubotu: green tuna is really bad to eat
[16:53] <jdong> ok, alive apparently :)
[16:53] <Seeker`> no0tic: how may we help you?
[16:53] <Pici> Seeker`: How can we help you?
[16:54] <PriceChild> for $i in #ubuntu-ops; do............
[16:55] <no0tic> Seeker`, we met yesterday :) I'm an -it op
[16:56] <PriceChild> Ahhhh weak strawberry milkshake.... it makes the whole day worth while.
[16:56] <no0tic> but if you think it's a problem, I can part whenever you want
[16:57] <jdong> PriceChild: bash: #ubuntu-ops: no substitutions found
[16:59] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, lastnode_ said: ubotu, actually irc is the real reason
[17:00] <PriceChild> !bot > lastnode_
[17:00] <Pici> PriceChild: I told him, it was accidentally.
[17:01] <Pici> er s/accidentally/accidental/
[17:01] <PriceChild> ah k :)
[17:25] <nalioth> talk about phoning in your lessons
[17:26] <PriceChild> Hmm?
[17:26] <nalioth> PriceChild: -classroom
[17:27] <PriceChild> ah haha
[17:27] <nalioth> set the send rate to one line every 2 seconds and go snuggle with the secretary
[22:30]  * mneptok jumps up and down on ompaul 
[22:30] <ompaul> harro there mneptok 
[22:30] <mneptok> oy
[22:30] <mneptok> how goes the struggle?
[22:31] <mneptok> my day has been a whirlwind of feline urine and feces. i *love* pet ownership.
[22:31] <mneptok> :/
[22:33] <ompaul> heh
[22:34] <ompaul> mneptok, our dogs behaved themeselves
[22:34] <ompaul> I spent my day fighting a box that did not want to be subdued
[22:34] <ompaul> so it is unplugged and doing nothing for the weekend
[22:34] <ompaul> :)
[22:36] <mneptok> spend this weekend finding an old audio cabinet speaker. put the magnet on an axe handle. have a somewhat different conversation with that box on Monday. ;)
[22:49] <ompaul> induce it to speak?
[23:10] <Seveas> fuck compiz
[23:10] <Seveas> it's forcing me to reboot since I lost all control of mouse and keyboard
[23:10] <Seveas> three fucking times in a row...
[23:10] <PriceChild> :/
[23:12] <mc44> that's a feature!
[23:12] <Seveas> mc44, of course it is
[23:12] <Seveas> fortunately, '--purge' is a feature of apt-get
[23:13] <mc44> :)
[23:13] <Seveas> fun night on the 24/7 shift today
[23:13] <Seveas> had to fix a few dozen broken database replicators
[23:13] <Seveas> thank you mysql, you utter piece of crap
[23:14] <Seveas> if someone INTERRUPTS a query, don't FSCKING REPLICATE IT, you moron
[23:14] <Seveas> don't know who wins the stupid software price there, mysql or compiz
[23:15] <Seveas> going for mysql there, since compiz can still call this a bug
[23:15] <Seveas> mysql can't since they anticipate this to happen
[23:16] <Seveas> "query caused different errors on master and slave"
[23:16] <Seveas> if it causes an error on the master, you DON'T FUCKING REPLICATE IT, MORON
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[23:18] <nalioth> Seveas: language please (it's not helping us)   :)
[23:18] <Seveas> nalioth, yeah I know.... I'm just thoroughly pissed off and you're the victims of it :)
[23:39] <PriceChild> wow a ban in -offtopic on *!*@*.area7.spcsdns.net :/
[23:39] <PriceChild> not showing up on bantracker grr
[23:40] <LjL> Seveas: mysql wins, because mysql is supposed to be *useful*, while if you use compiz, you deserve the crashes
[23:41] <crdlb> @lart LjL 
[23:41] <crdlb> :<
[23:41] <LjL> yikes, what are you doing here, you're usually not here... :P
[23:41] <crdlb> sorry :)
[23:41] <LjL> next time tell me you're here before i diss compiz :P
[23:42] <PriceChild> aha it was a mneptok setting that ban whilst ubotu was down
[23:42] <PriceChild> *reads logs*
[23:43] <Pici> Really? wasnt in my logs..
[23:44] <Pici> ah.. maybe if I spelled it correctly... *greps again*
[23:45] <jdong> PriceChild: that was the annoying ban evader yesterday
[23:45] <jdong> the unagis.
[23:45] <PriceChild> he was || close to being banned in #ubuntu
[23:45] <Pici> For what?
[23:45] <PriceChild> I think I was offline when the ban was set as can't see it in my logs.
[23:47] <Myrtti> I love my phone
[23:47] <Pici> Me either...
[23:47] <PriceChild> Myrtti, whatcha got?
[23:47] <Myrtti> Tis most lovely phone
[23:48] <mneptok> PriceChild: that was me.
[23:48] <Myrtti> N95
[23:48] <Pici> mneptok: ja?
[23:48] <mneptok> PriceChild: had a o4o abuser that when cautioned said "try banning me. i'm dynawic."
[23:48] <mneptok> *dynamic
[23:48] <PriceChild> lovely :d
[23:48] <mneptok> yeah, a *real* charmer
[23:48] <PriceChild> I'll tell him to deal with it.
[23:48] <mneptok> *unagi
[23:48] <mneptok> ("mrunagi" last night)
[23:49] <Pici> ooh.. same guy.
[23:49] <mneptok> you're surprised? :)
[23:49] <Pici> Not really.
[23:49] <mneptok> calm blue ocean ... calm blue ocean ...
[23:50] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu
[23:50] <mneptok> Pici: is *unagi on now?
[23:50] <mneptok> if so, i'll talk to him/her. you don't need to deal with my messes.
[23:51] <jdong> Pici: get rid of some of the all caps nicks too
[23:51] <Pici> mneptok: Yes, but check with PriceChild first, he might e talking to hinm
[23:51] <PriceChild> I'm talking with him.
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[23:51] <jdong> they weren't exactly being clean either
[23:51] <Pici> jdong: who?
[23:52] <jdong> Pici: CRY*
[23:52] <Pici> jdong: look again.
[23:52] <mneptok> PriceChild: i'm happy to deal with him, if you'd like. it's my problem.
[23:52] <jdong> Pici: ok, I need more sleep
[23:52] <jdong> :)
[23:53]  * jdong continues preparing SRU for Azureus
[23:53] <PriceChild> Pici, you acn remove that ban I think.
[23:53] <mneptok> jdong: srch-retr url?
[23:54] <PriceChild> mneptok, could you get me logs pleasie weasie?
[23:54] <mneptok> PriceChild: can do. stand by.
[23:54] <PriceChild> I think he's fed up now.
[23:54] <jdong> AZUREUS_JAVA="gij-4.2" azureus
[23:54] <jdong> *grumble*
[23:55] <Myrtti> <3 mirggi.net
[23:56] <mneptok> PriceChild: http://birdhouse.org/~mnep/unagi.txt
[23:56] <PriceChild> thanks
[23:57] <PriceChild> gah around with trypglyph....
[23:57] <mneptok> yup
[23:58] <PriceChild> mneptok, that's grepped on mrunagi... could I possibly have the other stuff around it as some isn't making sense :)
[23:58] <mneptok> full disclosure, that log is a grep for "unagi"
[23:58] <mneptok> so there's some missing content.
[23:58] <PriceChild> hehe yeah
[23:58]  * Pici reads
[23:58] <PriceChild> the objectifying bit doesn't make the most sense
[23:58] <mneptok> PriceChild: i'll get you all of yesterday for -offtopic