=== Vorian is now known as OGV === OGV is now known as vorian === wpickard is now known as BigPick [00:35] bug 1 [00:35] Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [00:35] bug 2 [00:36] bug 107188 [00:36] Launchpad bug 107188 in update-manager "[MASTER] [kde] Upgrade tool crashed with " Cannot allocate memory" (edgy -> feisty)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107188 [01:32] * nixternal replaces a customers dying Windows PC with a Kubuntu 7.10 PC [01:32] anyone know of any problems with SB Audigy cards at all? [01:32] more precisely, please. [01:33] I could talk your ear off about "problems with SB Audigy cards" [01:33] !sound | nixternal [01:33] nixternal: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [01:33] my brother's pc has one of the funky sb audigy 2 platinum deals with the front port thing [01:33] j/k [01:33] skip the livedrive. [01:33] use the rear ports. [01:33] nixternal: fancy packaging 3.95 for gutsy? [01:33] yes, the livedrive does work, but it can be a pain in the butt. [01:34] Riddell: is it out already? [01:34] and sure :) [01:34] crimsun_: I don't think he uses it much anyways, so I really don't care :) just wanted to make sure he was going to have sound before I did the install [01:34] he should [01:34] OK [01:35] nixternal: it's on ktown [01:35] wow, OK [01:36] oh wow, this is weird...Kubuntu has no problem with my crazy wide screen, but I am using a 15" LCD to do this install, and it doesn't do 1024x768 on the LiveCD correctly..had it listed as a widescreen [01:46] ktown dl initiated [01:47] crimsun_: so are you making a comeback now or what? :) [01:47] * Jucato waves to nixternal [01:47] good evening [01:47] * nixternal waves to Jucato [01:47] good morning to you [01:47] nixternal: would you know where jjesse is keeping that Adept guide he's working on? if it's in a pubic place? [01:48] 8:47am there right? [01:48] yep :D [01:48] Jucato: go to his user page on LP and check his code page [01:48] ok thanks [01:49] wow topof the least :) [01:50] 8. By Jonathan jjesse@iserv.net on 2007-06-29 more changes while i was waiting for my car to get fixed [01:50] lol! :) [01:50] I love open source :) [01:54] haha [01:54] I thought he has made changes since then...maybe not [02:01] nice timing [02:01] who? [02:01] hhahaha [02:01] * Jucato chokes [02:01] wb jjesse [02:01] thanks Jucato [02:01] good evening too :) [02:02] good morning to you :) [02:02] jjesse: nice timing because I was just asking about the Adept guide you were working on... [02:02] Jucato: oh yeah that... [02:02] * Jucato is dreaming big of helping... probably in the next few weeks [02:02] i think i have a bzr branch [02:02] hello [02:02] * Jucato emphasizes *weeks* [02:02] yeah I'm there [02:03] i would love comments and additions [02:03] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jjesse/adept/documentation [02:03] create your own branches and upload to it [02:04] since I know squat about docbook.. I'll try to take a look at it first :P [02:04] cool [02:04] use the code browser to read it if you don't want to check it out [02:06] I'm there as well [02:07] seriously make some comments and suggestions for changes [02:07] * Jucato doesn't know how to use code browser bwahahah [02:08] this is my first try at LP's code section [02:11] Hi begert [02:11] i've used it several time will use it more that the docteam is using bzr [02:13] jjesse: in http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~jjesse/adept/documentation/files there is a C/ folder and a c/ folder. what's the diff? [02:13] hrmm don't remember [02:13] heh :) [02:14] is one more up to date then the other? [02:14] hrm will have to clean them up, will work on it this weekend [02:14] yeah, the c/ is [02:15] If you are Jonathan Jesse please log in for upload directions. [02:15] Should that make me laugh as hard as it did? [02:15] grin [02:16] i think i need to change it to a team so more people can work on it [02:17] jjesse: is there a way I can view adeptguide.xml as something not xml? :D [02:17] team? more people? we can dream :) [02:17] umm i think it should build [02:17] * Jucato doesn't know how to build... noob [02:17] * jjesse is not booted in kubuntu right now to build it [02:17] it's ok [02:17] me too. but how do I build it? :) [02:18] is there a makefile there? or not ? if there isn't i can work on creating one [02:18] so it will build [02:18] checkouting... [02:18] Jucato: What are you In? [02:18] i think i was just using the same process as the doc team to build it out [02:19] codebrowse doesn't show a makefile... [02:19] bah maybe later. [02:19] I can read XML anyway :D [02:20] ok [02:20] i work on a makefile [02:20] * Jucato isn't booted either [02:20] still working on waking up? [02:20] yeah... [02:24] 0.o [02:24] So Jucato is logged into IRC ... THROUGH HIS BRAIN? [02:26] hi, is there a way to disable the "shadow" effect of the logout menu? [02:26] or a way to get the old one with konqi back? [03:09] Hi, kde4 3.95 or beta4 was tag what is the current status of placing the packages in the system? [03:12] Hi CPrgmSwR2 [03:13] hey [03:13] how are you? [03:13] alright [03:13] and you [03:13] Stuffed [03:14] I cannot wait for kde4 to be finished and released [03:15] The new fglrx drivers work good enough to experience the new kwin effects like fall apart [03:16] CPrgmSwR2: Umm what do you count as KDE4 being finished> [03:16] KDE5 coming out? [03:17] When the developers deam that kde4.0 is good enough for release [03:17] ah 4.0 :) [03:17] well that's a timed release :) [03:18] Regardless of if the developers bless it or not [03:19] Soon be back [03:19] k [04:38] hi Hobbsee! [04:39] * Daskreech hops on Hobbsee [04:39] * Jucato takes a power nap [04:40] heya! [05:29] I'm about ready to see if I can roll 3.5.8 back. This is just crazy. [05:36] ubotu!! [05:45] Daskreech, Where has it gone?!? [05:45] My mighty ego has blown it away! [06:32] What does ubuntulog do? (I couldn't get much info by searching.) [06:32] ...it logs? [06:37] Hobbsee, its name says so! But any further info on this (likely) bot? [06:41] !logs, when ubotu comes back [07:08] ebrahim: it logs anything you write in this channel [07:08] so that people can read it [07:08] uga, great idea. Is it run by canonical? [07:09] no idea who runs it [07:09] but it's a standard service on a few channels afaik, so possibly yes [07:10] ebrahim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#head-3764552ccef65ea78b1fd8d16bee097a5ca6c76c [07:11] ebrahim: logs are here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/10/ [07:12] uhm??? #ubuntu-fridge?? [07:12] those gnomees are nuts ;) [07:12] uga, great! thanks! [07:12] uga, :D [07:19] uga: can you stick around on the fridge for some notes? [07:25] too bad they dont make blue pumkins :) http://www.imbrandon.com/2007.10.27/the-great-ubuntu-pumkin-charlie-brown.html [07:26] Daskreech: heh [07:28] uga: Innocent question [07:28] imbrandon: hey this is time for tricks AND treats ;-) [07:29] Some light colouring help couldn't hurt the pumpkin :) [07:29] Daskreech: "The Fridge Channel: It's a cool place to be." [07:29] heh, it actually exists ;) [07:29] I know [07:29] Http://fridge.ubuntu.com [11:21] hi folks [11:28] can I have a little review here? How many of you are using the 'locate' tool and the 'updatedb' database? [11:29] err, not review, what's the word ... questionnaire or something like that :o) containing just one question [11:36] pool [11:37] i use [11:39] serzholino: yeah, me bad english [11:40] especially in the morning [11:40] 1:40 pm here :) === Saied_ is now known as Saied === patrick_ is now known as jpatrick [12:27] i use it [12:27] When will kubuntu stop putting root:root owned files in my user's .kde dir? [12:27] That is extremly annoying:-( [12:28] hunger: when you stop sudoing your gui programs. [12:28] hunger: perhaps because you are using some program launched through sudo guiapp [12:29] btw use kdesu guiapp or kdesudo guiapp instead [12:29] oh, unless the kdesudo bug hasnt been fixed yet. [12:29] but i'd expect it has been. [12:29] Hobbsee: I am having that with kcontrol, etc. which are preconfigured by you guys (and girls). [12:30] did you use sudo or kdesu? [12:30] Hobbsee: I *never* start anything with any form at su from my user account. [12:31] right.... [12:31] Hobbsee: At least not manually. Only when going admin mode in a controlcenter module. [12:32] right [12:32] which version of kdesudo do you have? [12:32] Hobbsee: whatever is current in gutsy 5 min ago. [12:32] Sorry, have to walk my dog. I'll be back later tonight. [12:32] that depends on which repos you have enabled. stop being difficult. [12:33] or else you'll get no help at all. [12:35] hunger: use kdesudo from gutsy-proposed [12:36] hiya Riddell, hwo's boston? [12:36] dreich [12:36] not unlike England infact [12:37] dreich? [12:37] notably so [12:37] * Hobbsee doesnt know what that is. [12:39] Hobbsee: he seemed to imply similar to england, so.. dreich: cold, humid, crap food, boring... [12:39] ah, righ [12:39] t [12:39] lets check the dictionary ;) [12:40] uga is about right :) [12:40] it ain't in the google dictionary.. [12:40] Riddell: it doesnt' turn up in my dict here [12:40] you meant "drench"? [12:41] no [12:41] Riddell: you got here just in time for the rain, it hasn't rained for over a month, bad droughts down south. [12:41] nosrednaekim: in boston? [12:41] well, it hasn't reained there in a while wither before this week [12:42] *either [12:42] * Riddell breakfasts [12:44] morning Riddell! [12:44] hope boston's ok, despite being... dreich? [12:45] * nosrednaekim is checking out the features in OSx Leopard [12:45] wow [12:47] some look like good ideas for compiz plugins ;) [13:14] hello Riddell [13:15] hi mhb [13:16] hi Riddell! how's the FOSSCamp? [13:16] not started yet [13:16] oh right... damn timezones... [13:16] * Jucato hates a spherical world... [13:17] hehe [13:17] hi Hobbsee! [13:17] how are things down under? :D [13:20] Jucato: i've added another to my list of "tips for effective bitching" [13:20] oooh! what would that be?:) [13:20] and MOTU is getting more unpleasant, which isn't so fun [13:21] "if you wish to bitch, answer my bloody questoins, else i cant figure out what you're bitching about, and you'll never get yourself understood, let alone getting the problem fixed!" [13:21] ah... and fun is a huge motivation in this line of work... specially when purely voluntary :) [13:21] heheh :) [13:22] indeed. [13:22] Jucato: I thought europe is "down under" for you :o) [13:22] Hobbsee: heh, is that your statement, or somebody else's trying to help you? =) [13:23] uga: my statement. [13:23] uga: i'm in retail. [13:23] mhb: oh Europe is waaaay on top :) [13:30] when is fosscamp going to start? [13:30] hmm, in a few hours, right? [13:31] yeah [13:31] half an hour, most likely [13:33] no live feeds? :) [13:34] in an hour [13:34] I doubt there's live feeds for fosscamp, there's no schedule at all [13:35] aah anything goes? :) [13:47] nixternal: this could do with a dot story if you fancy http://news.opensuse.org/?p=476 [14:01] Riddell: any magic spells you could use to speed up canonical sysadmins in creating a drupal page for us? [14:01] Riddell: I mean - no sign of activity since I entered the wish into their RT system [14:04] currently Ng seems busy setting up the wifi network [14:04] I'll ask him but I suspect it may not happen until he gets back to England in a couple of weeks [14:42] nixternal: no, just around for a bit === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [15:27] I remember there was sms plugin in kopete, but now in gutsy i see no suck plugin. Was it removed for kubuntu or upstream? [15:55] sebas: hey /me gaat niet komen naar je verjaardag, ben erg moe van de Ubuntu party (en slecht geslapen)... Ik hoop dat je zonder me kunt :D [15:57] Riddell: okay, it's a bit of a blocker because each day the enthusiasm of the folks involved wears of a bit, but I can understand that [15:58] * Jucato wonders what jos just said :) [15:59] Jucato: does it help if you're told that it's in dutch? [15:59] * Hobbsee actually heard some dutch tonight [15:59] heheh :) [16:04] bah I totally forgot out openweek today :/ [16:08] Jucato: Moin [16:08] hi Daskreech [16:09] * Daskreech grumbles and goes back to bed [16:09] O.o [16:20] FAQ #1 strikes again... [16:22] mornin' [16:23] hiya nixternal! [16:23] nixternal!!!!!!! *cough* !!!!111111213001011 [16:24] :( [16:25] whoa, your bits and bytes there look like the ones Microsoft uses for a blue screen [16:25] :D [16:25] Riddell: when you get the chance, tell me just how in the world you find all of this KDE news [16:26] nixternal: that one's on Planet KDE [16:26] oops. I'm not Riddell :P [16:26] hehe [16:29] * Jucato finds it amusing that some people decide to use a distro based on whether Compiz is installed on it or not... [16:29] * ScottK would look for not... [16:30] but tbh...with all the hype around it... we're a bit on the losing end... [16:30] * Jucato actually wonders how Mandriva or Sabayon got away with Compiz... [16:30] sabayon uses KDE right? [16:30] it probably crashes. lots. [16:30] hehe [16:31] hm.. too bad Mandriva gave up too quickly on that Metisse thing... I guess they couldn't stand the combined powers of Compiz and Beryl [16:33] Metisse is great fun, rotating windows is just comedy [16:33] heheh [16:37] Riddell: dot story in queue [16:38] hehe Kubuntu-KDE guy writing about openSUSE-KDE guy... world peace at last! :D [16:38] that interview brought back some memories...I need to put my Commodore 64 back together and play some Ghostbusters and Pit Fall [16:38] hehe [16:39] it's all in the name of KDE :) [16:40] hm... I suddenly had an idea for this halloween... [16:40] anyone know of a Konqui "doll" design pattern? :D [16:41] I want to say "maybe" on that one...there is someone on Planet KDE show makes the plush dolls I thought [16:41] brb [16:51] nixternal: fancy doing a quickies? there's a few things in the queue [16:56] sure [16:57] heh, quickie [17:11] Riddell: how far back should I go on the stories in the queue? and should people really write an article about themselves/a book they just published? [17:12] nixternal: in a quickie the book is good [17:12] k [17:12] radio amarok [17:12] 12 tips [17:13] kurt posted about the asus laptop thing on dot-editors [17:13] kde italia [17:16] the kde italia one needs a lot of editing...that is fine that we do it right, just trying to maintain as much of the authors wording? === aplg is now known as apachelogger [17:17] ahoy apachelogger [17:17] nixternal: quickies! [17:17] just a sentence, have you seen quickies stories in the past? [17:17] ohhhhhhhh [17:17] yes, gotcha now [17:17] :D [17:18] ahoy jpatrick [17:18]

post 1 quicking
post 2 quickie

:) [17:18] there's a kubuntu-art.org? [17:19] for a couple of months already [17:19] jpatrick: wanna revu some stuff? ;-) [17:19] apachelogger: lemme at 'em!! :D [17:20] jpatrick: lightwight qt batch image resizer: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=440 [17:20] this is the one by sebr? [17:20] jpatrick: package update + bug fix for oo.o quick starter: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=441 [17:21] jpatrick: yep [17:21] apachelogger: I recommend cdbs but your choice ;) [17:21] nixternal: like this http://dot.kde.org/1187268289/ [17:22] ya, I am looking at your last one right now [17:22] jpatrick: well, I probably could use qmake.mk ... since the software doesn't use autohell ... but then again not using cdbs was faster than fixing possible issues with qmake :P [17:23] apachelogger: I think the ./configure for squash ought to have --prefix=/usr [17:23] nope [17:23] there is no install routine thingy [17:24] it's only the binary so I throw it in place with squash.install [17:25] ok, they look good to me, I'll pbuild [17:31] wb Jucato [17:31] htanks [17:31] er.. thanks [17:45] * n8k99 waves [17:46] hi n8k99 [17:46] hi Jucato [17:53] apachelogger: err, it looks like oooqs2-kde is already in universe [17:54] jpatrick: it's an update [17:55] apachelogger: aha, in case that case they're good to go [17:56] Riddell: the KDE Italia story happens today, or is actually getting ready to end..does it make sense to still include it? [17:56] nevermind...I will make it a "past event" [17:56] jpatrick: thanks for looking :) [17:57] * apachelogger fires kaffeine with weeds up [17:58] kein problem [18:03] Riddell: Quickie in the queue [18:23] hummm...I have high speed internet... what to do ? [18:24] ? [18:25] fix hardy! [18:25] heh [18:25] jpatrick: I ussually have dial-up.. but i'm down at the library [18:26] or put Hobbsee to sleep [18:27] mmm...sleep [18:27] yes [18:30] holy smokes Hobbsee, you are still up? [18:30] jeesh [18:30] yeah [18:30] it's 4.30am apparently [18:30] you think :) [18:30] hehe [18:30] I have to do a doc talk today for openweek :( [18:30] in an hour and a half to be exact, so double :( [18:31] heh [18:32] and I won't be there to listen.... so minus :( and plus :) [18:32] or triple :( [18:32] hehe [18:33] it will be boring anyways...on a Saturday, nobody is around to listen [18:33] * ScottK goes to do laundry and pack. [18:39] guess it's time for me to disappear as well... [18:39] k'nite [18:39] :) [18:39] thanks! [18:40] and good luck! :) === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [18:56] is there uds specific channel? [18:57] I hope so [18:59] nixternal: are you going to uds? [19:00] nope :( [19:00] boo! [19:01] dang! [19:02] this should hopefully be the last one I miss...maybe the April one I will miss as well in 08 [19:03] Heh, heya nixternal [19:03] but I will more than likely go to aKademy in 08 and the rest of the UDS's from here-on-out [19:03] school will be over next spring..so I will be looking for work either as a Business/Marketing manager or an aspiring developer [19:04] so if you live anywhere but Chicago, preferably east coast if I stay in the US, or if not, then Cabo San Lucas Mexico, or anywhere in Europe (Spain, France, Italy, Greece, UK, Riddell's closet) [19:05] then get me a job :) [19:05] forgot Germany in that list as well [19:06] and if it is in Europe somewhere, I guess I will have to fly, even though I absolutely hate it [19:06] ooh very nice! [19:07] I would love to get back to the bay area (ScottK and crimsun_), or the Carolinas on the east coast [19:07] New York is about as far north as I will go [19:08] I am afraid if I go to NYC though, I will pick up my ways again and become the first Swedish-Polish-Irish-Native American Indian mob boss [19:11] good evening [19:11] hi nixternal, are you running KDE4 as you declared? [19:11] I sure am [19:12] nixternal: good .o) [19:12] nixternal: I'm compiling kdebase now, hope I can do the same as you [19:12] speaking of which, I need to do an svn up, and rebuild with the new updates this weekend if I get a chance [19:12] so far, I haven't had any crashes, but I haven't been doing much the past couple of days but some LaTeX work [19:17] <_StefanS_> nixternal: hows the speed of your kde4? [19:17] <_StefanS_> nixternal: did you compile with fulldebug and all that+ [19:17] <_StefanS_> ? [19:18] yes [19:18] and the speed is pretty decent [19:18] Intel chipset, Celeron M 1.6 [19:20] aseigo just fixed my performance issue in plasma, so I hope it will work decent now for me [19:20] <_StefanS_> nixternal: you just followed the guide on techbase.kde.org? [19:21] yes [19:21] <_StefanS_> sweet.. I gotta try that [19:21] Lure: ya, I noticed a little slowness with Plasma, but not showstopping slowness [19:21] nixternal: it was using 100% of cpu due to walppaer [19:22] hrmm, I don't think I seen that issue [19:22] nixternal: 1920x1200 screen was not supported in pixmap cache, causing svg ->pixmap conversions all the time [19:23] nixternal: kde bug 151109 [19:23] <_StefanS_> Lure: is that fix available ? I have the same resolution also [19:23] _StefanS_: ^^^ [19:23] KDE bug 151109 in General "pixmap cache too small for 1920x1200" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151109 [19:23] <_StefanS_> yea ;) [19:23] <_StefanS_> saw it [19:23] _StefanS_: not final fix, just workaround which should be "good enough" [19:23] <_StefanS_> fair enough [19:24] <_StefanS_> nixternal: didnt that compile take like a week or something ? [19:24] Lure: that would explain it then...if you could, send me a monitor that can do that resolution so I can test it :) [19:24] hehe [19:24] _StefanS_: only took a couple of hours to compile pretty much every KDE 4 module [19:25] nixternal: it is built in my laptop, so a bit harder to send one ;-) [19:25] including Amarok 2 [19:25] oh wow, then send me a laptop :) [19:25] hehe [19:25] <_StefanS_> ah [19:25] nixternal: you do not want it really (had motherboard replaced the third time ;-)) [19:25] ooh, that stinks [19:25] <_StefanS_> Lure: what brand? apple [19:26] <_StefanS_> ? [19:26] _StefanS_: hp nw8240 [19:26] <_StefanS_> oh my just looked a HP 8510 or something [19:26] <_StefanS_> good thing I skipped that in favour of a t61p [19:26] I have been super lucky with my laptop...Compaq C304nr, 1GB ram, 1.6GHz Celeron M, 15" widescreen (1280x800), and not one problem...I have been dist-upgrading since Dapper on this laptop [19:26] _StefanS_: we have lot's of hp laptops at work and regular replacements of motherboards [19:26] so take at least 3-year warranty, then you should be fine [19:27] ;-) [19:31] <_StefanS_> nixternal: I'm guessing that the kde4 packages by Riddell should not be on the system when making that svn version (?) [19:31] _StefanS_: no need, as yours will be in home [19:31] doesn't matter...when you build from svn it is wise to create a new user and just work from the new users (kde-devel) directory [19:31] <_StefanS_> ah yep [19:31] <_StefanS_> thanks [19:31] _StefanS_: I have kde-devel user and everything is started from his home [19:31] one user rules them all here [19:32] I might do that, but I am probably going to build slackware and have just KDE 4 on it, that way there I can get the KDE 4 packages only in the menu and not everything on the system, unless of course there is an easy fix I am overlooking [19:33] nixternal: I knew you're gonna move to something else sooner or later :o) [19:33] not to move away from Kubuntu, but Slackware is a "compile, make, and make install" person's dream :) [19:33] although [19:34] shoot, I am an idiot..I could just install Ubuntu server and do it from there [19:34] derr [19:34] ubuntu-minimal might be a better package to start from [19:47] <_StefanS_> nixternal: so why doesnt sudo work for the kde-devel user, any idea? [19:47] you need to add kde-devel to the 'admin' group [19:47] <_StefanS_> ah [19:47] <_StefanS_> never really look much into that :) [19:48]