[00:00] <igniter> ignoramus: sudo copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:00] <ignoramus> "copy: command not found"
[00:01] <igniter> ignoramus: sorry, it's cp, not copy
[00:01] <ignoramus> ok
[00:01] <ignoramus> lemme try again
[00:01] <ignoramus> "cannot start- no such file or directory"
[00:02] <BigPick> you need to flip the two filenames :P
[00:02] <dave> BigPick right well now eth0 is down now
[00:02] <ignoramus> conf.1 last?
[00:02] <BigPick> ignoramus: Indeed, its "cp SOURCE DEST"
[00:02] <[ifr0g]> bluetooth !!
[00:02] <BigPick> dave: Hmm, is that a bad thing?
[00:03] <dave> BigPick and it seems to be using IPv6 according to network tools and also there's a "wmaster0" as well as "ra0" which WAS my normal
[00:03] <ignoramus> ok, now how do i restart x without rebooting?
[00:03] <[ifr0g]> ignoramus, ctrl + alt + backspace
[00:03] <ignoramus> doesn't work from this terminal
[00:03] <dave> BigPick it is if u want me to download stuff to compile that driver
[00:03] <[ifr0g]> Anyone here uses bluetooth ?
[00:04] <BigPick> dave: Well, you'll have to download the driver.
[00:04] <dave> BigPick usb memory it is
[00:04] <dave> BigPick rt2500?
[00:04] <BigPick> dave: hmm okay, well you will need tools so lets get your eth0 up and running.
[00:04] <dave> BigPick true
[00:05] <BigPick> dave: lets try this the manual way. "sudo pkill NetworkManager" on the machine
[00:06] <dave> no idea why its down, sudo if up eth0 says nBigPick k
[00:06] <dave> BigPick k
[00:06] <BigPick> dave: sounds good, ifup it and see if it gets and ip
[00:07] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[00:07] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:08] <ignoramus> How much memory should i allocate to video card (old shitty onboard ATI Radeon 340M)
[00:08] <ignoramus> in kB
[00:08] <biovore> ignoramus: how much ram on is on the card?
[00:08] <Gannondorf> I need help with graphics
[00:08] <ignoramus> 128
[00:08] <eagles0513875> ignoramus: up it another 128
[00:08] <eagles0513875> no games need anythign more then 256
[00:09] <eagles0513875> at least not yet
[00:09] <[ifr0g]> My cant find my cell on the input device list ?
[00:09] <ignoramus> so... in kB.... thats ?
[00:09] <dave> BigPick we're up cos randomly there was duplicate in /etc/interfaces or whatever
[00:09] <eagles0513875> not sure
[00:09] <ignoramus> (i have problems with kB and KB)
[00:09] <BigPick> dave: Sweet
[00:09] <eagles0513875> night guys im out ofr the morning lol
[00:09] <eagles0513875> 2am here
[00:09] <igniter> ignoramus: still having problems? try another conf.x file --> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:09] <biovore> Kb or KB
[00:10] <dave> BigPick so what we d/ling
[00:10] <biovore> bits or bites
[00:10] <Gannondorf> BigPick: I have more problems that are worse than last nights
[00:10] <BigPick> dave: You will need the headers for your current kernel, and build-essentials
[00:10] <BigPick> Gannondorf: What can I do to help?
[00:11] <ignoramus> @biovore: i just picked 256 and rebooted
[00:11] <Gannondorf> BigPick: Now my Ark doesn't work, and neither does the terminal codes. Only works in gnome. I'm trying to install FreeCiv in gnome right now
[00:11] <ignoramus> *crosses fingers*
[00:11] <BigPick> Gannondorf: I also remembered how I fixed the lines problem you described
[00:11] <zareliman> are there some terminal commands to upgrade to gusty ?
[00:12] <ignoramus> zareliman: can't you just upgrade via the package manager?
[00:12] <Gannondorf> And I got a huge error while doing sudo make install
[00:12] <BigPick> Gannondorf: <3 FreeCiv. You can get that with Adept you know.
[00:12] <ignoramus> i think it says "version upgrade"
[00:12] <Gannondorf> I was unaware
[00:12] <Gannondorf> But I still have troubles
[00:13] <Gannondorf> want me to give you the error message?
[00:13] <zareliman> I can, I was just wandering about something like: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade -y
[00:13] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Sure, then lemme walk you through the fix for the weird lines.
[00:13] <ignoramus> gah! this thing *still* won't let me past terminal "cannot connect to X server"!
[00:13] <Gannondorf> kk
[00:14] <igniter> ignoramus: do this --> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:14] <Gannondorf> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.4.0... no
[00:14] <Gannondorf> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[00:14] <Gannondorf> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[00:14] <Gannondorf> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[00:14] <Gannondorf> configure: WARNING: Not checking for SDL; use --enable-client=sdl to enable
[00:14] <Gannondorf> checking for X... no
[00:14] <Gannondorf> checking whether Xfuncproto was supplied... no, found:  FUNCPROTO=15 NARROWPROTO
[00:14] <Gannondorf> configure: WARNING: Not checking for XAW; use --enable-client=xaw to enable
[00:14] <Gannondorf> configure: error: could not guess which client to compile
[00:14] <igniter> ignoramus:  then restart
[00:14] <hangthedj> !paste
[00:14] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:14]  * Dr_Willis sighs
[00:14] <BigPick> wow, there, pastebin is your friend my man
[00:14] <igniter> ignoramus:  reconfiguring X is an unnecessary pain
[00:14] <Gannondorf> wow
[00:14] <Gannondorf> i was unaware
[00:14] <[ifr0g]> How do i install older version of any package ?
[00:14] <dave> BigPick we're go
[00:15] <Gannondorf> !freeciv
[00:15] <ubot3> Factoid freeciv not found
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> I like the Freecolanization clone thats out. :)
[00:15] <BigPick> dave: sweet, okay get the tarball for your driver, which you probably did, and unpack it.
[00:16] <Tm_T> [ifr0g]: if you dont have local copy, well, though luck, repositories doesnt keep old copies
[00:16] <[ifr0g]> darn.
[00:16] <Gannondorf> BigPick: So what do I do?
[00:16] <zareliman> can someone help me with this session stuff? I still can't get KDE4 working as an option on logon screen
[00:17] <Ace2016> [ifr0g]: what package is it?
[00:17] <ignoramus> ifr0g: check sourceforge.net for older release versions
[00:17] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Well, thats an awsome error. What were you trying to do?
[00:17] <ignoramus> adept/terminal will warn you're installing an older version, but go ahead
[00:18] <Gannondorf> BigPick: trying to sudo make install freeciv
[00:18] <dave> BigPick right so what i'm typing?
[00:18] <[ifr0g]> !kbluetoothd
[00:18] <ubot3> Factoid kbluetoothd not found
[00:19] <ignoramus> igniter: i tried to copy xconf, and restarted kdm, now just blank screen... ?
[00:19] <Gannondorf> !kbluetooth
[00:19] <ubot3> Factoid kbluetooth not found
[00:19] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Yeah, don't worry about it. Just use "sudo apt-get freeciv-client-gtk"
[00:19] <Ace2016> what version of kbluetoothd?
[00:20] <BigPick> dave: Well I'm not sure on the particulars, but starting with "./configure" is pretty standard.
[00:20] <BigPick> dave: thats the usual automagical way to configure your Makefiles
[00:20] <Gannondorf> BigPick: so what do I do about thte lines?
[00:21] <Ace2016> BigPick: nope :D its usually      nano README
[00:21] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Don't worry about them, they are there because you don't have the proper libraries installed to compile freeciv from source. Just download the binaries.
[00:22] <dwidmann> Hmm, seems the encryption option on the gutsy cd is more or less broken :(
[00:22] <BigPick> Ace2016: Good point.
[00:22] <Ace2016> i can't believe the next ubuntu will be called hardy, man these names are starting to suck,
[00:22] <Gannondorf> BigPick: not those lines, the graphics lines thing from last night
[00:22] <igniter> ignoramus: hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get a terminal
[00:22] <BigPick> dave: As Ace2016 said, checking the readme is an awsome way to start.
[00:22] <ignoramus> k
[00:22] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Oh yeah! Okay, this took me months to figure out.
[00:23] <Gannondorf> Then thank His Noodly Master that you are here
[00:23] <ignoramus> igniter: no dice. i'm still at the black prompt screen, not being able to connect to X server
[00:23] <BigPick> Gannondorf: And I may not be remembering what I did correctly, so this may take a couple tries.
[00:23] <Ace2016> !kdebluetooth
[00:23] <ubot3> kdebluetooth: KDE Bluetooth Framework. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0~beta8-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 868 kB, installed size 3888 kB
[00:23] <ignoramus> any other helpful advice?
[00:23] <ardchoille> Gannondorf: Any reason you're compiling freeciv instead of installing it from the repos?
[00:23] <[ifr0g]> !find kbluetoothd
[00:24] <ubot3> Package/file kbluetoothd does not exist in gutsy
[00:24] <[ifr0g]> !find kbluetooth
[00:24] <ubot3> Found: libkbluetooth-dev, libkbluetooth0
[00:24] <BigPick> Gannondorf: I did this two years ago so bear with me
[00:24] <Gannondorf> ardchoille: I'm done with that. And I was unaware it was in the repos
[00:24] <igniter> ignoramus: do this --> go inside /etc/X11 and do a ls -o
[00:24] <ignoramus> k
[00:24] <Ace2016> [ifr0g]: what version are you looking for? trying to use feisty's one with gutsy or what?
[00:24] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Okay, it turns out that the neomagic video cards don
[00:24] <BigPick> Gannondorf:'t handle transparency well.
[00:24] <Gannondorf> BigPick: Am I gonna have to be in KDE to do this?
[00:25] <Gannondorf> I'm in GNOME right now
[00:25] <igniter> ignoramus: use a conf.x file with a date before you installed envy
[00:25] <ignoramus> igniter: "go: command not found"
[00:25] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Nope, just have a terminal window open.
[00:25] <igniter> ignoramus: cd /etc/X11
[00:25] <ignoramus> k
[00:25] <Gannondorf> k
[00:25] <igniter> ignoramus: ls -o
[00:26] <BigPick> Gannondorf: We are going to reconfigure xserver-xorg, and when it asks you about the bit-depth stop and tell me what your options are.
[00:26] <Gannondorf> now what
[00:26] <Gannondorf> oh
[00:26] <ignoramus> igniter: now i see a bunch of options with dates... what do i type?
[00:26] <Gannondorf> BigPick: how do I do that?
[00:26] <ignoramus> i see a good xorg.conf ... how do i load that one?
[00:26] <BigPick> Gannondorf: so "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[00:26] <igniter> ignoramus: look for a xorg.conf.x file that has an earlier date that the day on when you installed envy
[00:27] <ignoramus> will a .bak file do?
[00:27] <ignoramus> *xorg.conf.bak
[00:27] <ignoramus> i mean
[00:27] <igniter> should, try that one
[00:27] <ignoramus> k- what do i actually type?>
[00:27] <igniter> just be sure it's not too old
[00:27] <ignoramus> it's not
[00:27] <ignoramus> what's the command?
[00:27] <igniter> sudo cp xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf
[00:28] <Gannondorf> BigPick: So do I just ok through everything until then?
[00:28] <ignoramus> ok... now reboot?
[00:28] <igniter> yes
[00:28] <ardchoille> ignoramus: reboot?
[00:28] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Yup, everything else should be okay.
[00:28] <ardchoille> Why not just restart xorg?
[00:29] <ignoramus> i've been trying everything... rebooting now
[00:29] <igniter> ardchoille: what's the command to just restart x?
[00:29] <BigPick> Gannondorf: I forget the exact bit depth, but its an odd value, turns out the Neomagic cards don't handle "alpha channels" properly.
[00:29] <ignoramus> my xorg file got changed by envy
[00:29] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It's asking me about amount of memory to be used by the video card
[00:29] <ignoramus> ....that's how this whole mess happened
[00:29] <ignoramus> (well, i let it)
[00:30] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Don't worry about that, just keep going.
[00:30] <ignoramus> igniter: YOU ARE THE BEST!
[00:30] <ardchoille> ignoramus: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[00:30] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It's blank
[00:30] <ignoramus> i owe you many beers
[00:30] <ignoramus> Thank you all!
[00:30] <ignoramus> this is by far the best irc i've ever visited
[00:30] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Yeah, I know, the driver doesn't recognize it properly, putting something there doesn't make any difference.
[00:31]  * Dr_Willis cries tears of joy
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> we'll send you our bill....
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> :
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> :)
[00:31] <ignoramus> igniter: now will i have to change anything, or will it just use the good xorg.conf file?
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> So let clarify this  - envy set up somthing wrongly?
[00:32] <ignoramus> yup
[00:32] <igniter> ignoramus: with that cp command you overwrote the old broke file, with a well configured one
[00:32] <ignoramus> i tried to install the propriety ATI driver
[00:32] <ignoramus> igniter: so i'm all good now?
[00:32] <igniter> nothing else to change
[00:32] <ignoramus> :)
[00:32] <igniter> yes
[00:33] <ignoramus> yeah, so Envy tried to install ATI driver, gave an error message, and then asked to overwrite xorg.conf (which it "recommended")
[00:33] <Gannondorf> BigPick: what exactly will it say when it is ready?
[00:33] <igniter> do a backup for the actual xorg.conf file, put something like xorg.conf-THISONEWORKS, use the cp command to do so
[00:33] <ignoramus> i said, "well, if it's "recommended..."
[00:33] <igniter> next time you cant access X you know what to do
[00:33] <ignoramus> good idea.
[00:34] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Did you get to the part that asks about bit depth?
[00:34] <ignoramus> igniter: can i just copy and paste?
[00:34] <Gannondorf> hang on
[00:34] <BigPick> Gannondorf: It will give you a list of possilbe depths to use
[00:34] <ignoramus> i don't know how to create a backup of a file
[00:34] <igniter> ignoramus: not really, you don't hve root access to that folder from konqueror
[00:35] <ignoramus> i see
[00:35] <ignoramus> is it easy to create a backup of that file
[00:35] <ignoramus> ?
[00:35] <Gannondorf> BigPick: I'm at resolution selection screen, can I select more than I have?
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> ignoramus,  in less time then it took you to type that line. :)
[00:36] <igniter> go to a terminal and type this: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-THISONEWORKS
[00:36] <BigPick> Gannondorf: You can.
[00:36] <Gannondorf> cool
[00:36] <ignoramus> i got it now.  I never used the "cp" command before.  I think it's sunk in.
[00:36] <BigPick> Gannondorf: But be careful, only select the ones you KNOW the laptop can use
[00:36] <dave> BigPick ive got the latest tarball/CVS and "make" it, and "make install" but no joy
[00:37] <ignoramus> i learned something toda
[00:37] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Otherwise it can error and die.
[00:37] <igniter> ignoramus: not to mess with X?
[00:37] <ignoramus> yeah :/
[00:37] <BigPick> dave: okay, now you need to load the new module into your kernel.
[00:37] <igniter> now you can, just have a backup at hand
[00:37] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It says color depth in bits
[00:38] <ignoramus> i've been on linux (kubuntu) for like one month - i have a LOT to learn
[00:38] <ignoramus> but it's much more rewarding than using my Windows box
[00:38] <ignoramus> ...although i'm on the MS box now, so i guess it does have some benefits ;)
[00:38] <dave> BigPick how
[00:38] <BigPick> dave: try "sudo modprobe rt61" or something. I don't know what your new module will be called.
[00:39] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It says color depth in bits
[00:39] <BigPick> Gannondorf: I heard you, what are the options?
[00:39] <Gannondorf> um
[00:39] <ignoramus> Once again, thanks all (especially igniter) and have a great night
[00:39] <ignoramus> exit
[00:39] <ignoramus> woops
[00:39] <BigPick> dave: The readme should say what the resulting module name should be.
[00:39] <Gannondorf> 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
[00:40] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Okay, use 15.
[00:40] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It exited
[00:40] <BigPick> Gannondorf: okay, no errors right?
[00:40] <Gannondorf> nope
[00:41] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Good. now you need to restart your X server. I don't know the command way in gnome...
[00:42] <Gannondorf> just tell me the kde way
[00:42] <BigPick> Gannondorf: hitting Cntrl+Alt+Backspace should do it.
[00:42] <Gannondorf> okay
[00:42] <Gannondorf> lemme switch to kde
[00:42] <Gannondorf> brb
[00:42] <dave> BigPick right it says nowt on modprbe rt2500
[00:43] <dave> soo ?
[00:43] <BigPick> dave: go for it :)
[00:43] <BigPick> dave: "sudo modprobe rt2500"
[00:43] <dave> BigPick it dont do owt
[00:44] <BigPick> dave: Does it give an error?
[00:44] <dave> BigPick no, doesnt say anything
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> dmesg dont say anyhing about the module loading?
[00:45] <BigPick> Yeah, dmesg should say if it loaded or not.
[00:45] <Gannondorf> BigPick: So what do I do again?
[00:46] <BigPick> Gannondorf: well if your in kde just run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[00:49] <nicon-> hello, i got problem, my dwl-g510 wlan card don't want to work, what can i do?
[00:49] <BigPick> dave: You okay man? It should be like the last thing in dmesg.
[00:50] <dave> BigPick no joy yet justlet me check dmesg
[00:50] <nicon-> hello, i got problem, my dwl-g510 wlan card don't want to work, what can i do?
[00:50] <BigPick> dave: well no news is good news run "iwconfig" and see if anything comes up
[00:51] <nicon-> can smb help me?
[00:51] <BigPick> nicon: Are you running Feisty of gutsy?
[00:51] <nicon-> gutsy
[00:51] <BigPick> nicon: Allright, lemme check some things. I don't have any experience with that card.
[00:51] <dave> BigPick yeah ra0 comes up with stuff..what next???
[00:52] <nicon-> BigPick: when i type iwconfig it finds this card...
[00:52] <Gannondorf> BigPick: Your a genius
[00:52] <igniter> I'm having problems with USB transfer speeds since I installed Feisty for the first time, now I'm running Gutsy and the problems are there still. It'll start at a good transfer speed, then after a couple of minutes the speed starts to fluctuate a lot, transfering a 700mb file can take up to 10min on an USB 2.0 port, any idea on what may be the problem?
[00:52] <BigPick> dave: w00t!
[00:52] <nicon-> but when i try to find dhcp, dont c any results...
[00:52] <nicon-> so i type im manually
[00:52] <nicon-> it*
[00:52] <BigPick> Okay, manually configuring wireless cards from the terminal is very difficult.
[00:52] <dave> BigPick ive jsut had a new boiler with RF thermostat, who's guessing its on the same channel?
[00:53] <nicon-> BigPick: i mean from administration panel
[00:53] <Gannondorf> BigPick: Your a genius
[00:53] <BigPick> Gannondorf: :)
[00:53] <Gannondorf> It worked!
[00:53] <Gannondorf> yay!
[00:53] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Glad I remembered it :)
[00:53] <nicon-> BigPick: what can i do?
[00:53] <BigPick> Okay dave and nicon.
[00:53] <nicon-> <:
[00:53] <nicon-> i'm so tired...
[00:54] <BigPick> I want you both to restart your NetworkManagers. To do this run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[00:54] <BigPick> You will also have to restart knetworkmanager
[00:54] <nicon-> done
[00:54] <dave> BigPick nicon?
[00:55] <nicon-> dave: he mean u and me [;
[00:55] <BigPick> Yeah the both of you :)
[00:55] <BigPick> Now knetwork manager should appear as an icon in the bottom right hand corner of your screens in the taskbar.
[00:56] <nicon-> BigPick: i can't c
[00:56] <BigPick> nicon: then in a terminal run "knetworkmanager"
[00:57] <nicon-> BigPick: done
[00:57] <BigPick> something should show up looking like a connection or something.
[00:58] <BigPick> If you click on it, a connection summary will pop up.
[00:58] <nicon-> yep
[00:58] <nicon-> and?
[00:58] <dave> BigPick nope, no active device :(
[00:58] <dope> so when i try to boot from the cd i get a "no emulation" msg, i've booted from this same cd on another computer no problem
[00:58] <nicon-> i got here eth0 + ra1
[00:58] <BigPick> dave: your going to need to exit knetworkmanager and restart it from terminal
[00:59] <BigPick> nicon: by right-clicking on that icon, you should get a list of wireless networks
[00:59] <nicon-> BigPick: got it
[01:00] <dave> BigPick no nothing. its still looping back to 169.254 etc...
[01:00] <BigPick> nicon: by clicking on one of the networks it will configure and connect.
[01:00] <nicon-> BigPick: yeah, it should connect...
[01:00] <maxther> ciao a tutti
[01:00] <nicon-> but when i try to ping router - no results
[01:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> !it | maxther
[01:01] <ubot3> maxther: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:01] <nicon-> eh...
[01:01] <maxther> ok thx
[01:01] <BigPick> dave: in a terminal run "iwlist ra1 scanning"
[01:02] <tferero> When someone on the board has a moment, I have a question regarding excessive disk spinning
[01:02] <nicon-> BigPick: so? :P
[01:02] <BigPick> nicon: Well, you having some sort of network problem. Did you get an ip address?
[01:02] <nicon-> BigPick: by dhcp? no :/
[01:02] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: This wouldn't have anythign to do with a laptop HD spinning like crazy, would it?
[01:03] <nicon-> i typed it manualy (192.168.1.5)_
[01:03] <dave> BigPick ra0 scanning no scan results
[01:03] <tferero> oh yeah
[01:03] <nicon-> where 192.168.1.1 = router
[01:03] <semistud2354> i have a bit of a problem...every time i start kubuntu...it boots but i have to hit ctrl-d to end the shell and it writes something to /var/log/fchk/checkfs
[01:03] <semistud2354> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[01:03] <semistud2354> fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=e6564bb3-7f60-4197-acc3-8bb212617121'
[01:03] <semistud2354> fsck died with exit status 8
[01:03] <tferero> it does, but my questions relate to  the fix proposed
[01:03] <BigPick> nicon: well, setting up a static ip with wireless is tricky
[01:03] <semistud2354> thats what it says
[01:03] <nicon-> BigPick: so, what can i do, to dhcp work?:D
[01:03] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: ah. ok. I was about to point you to the bug.
[01:04] <nicon-> at windows there r no problems with that :P
[01:04] <semistud2354> anyone know what to do
[01:04] <BonesolTeraDyne> Oddly, my eMachies M2352 hasn't been affected by it.
[01:04] <chovy> how do i remove a pkg that is not installed, but still thinks it is? "tovid"
[01:04] <tferero> Bones: lol - been there.  I am a newbie,  so just need some guidance.  I am going to print out a code line, then ask a question
[01:04] <sinan> hello, when i was playing with network settings i did a manual configuration once and since then i cant get back to default automatic mode does anyone have any idea how i can get that back?
[01:04] <BigPick> nicon: Okay in knetworkmanager remove that static ip and set it to use dhcp,
[01:05] <semistud2354> i partitioned my hd, then transfered files, then extended the partition back to the entire hd
[01:05] <semistud2354> but its still showing the old partition...
[01:05] <semistud2354> like where it gives me the choice to pick the partition
[01:05] <semistud2354> to boot in
[01:06] <semistud2354> i want to know how to remove that
[01:06] <tferero> Bones: $sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
[01:06] <tferero> what is the -B 255?
[01:06] <semistud2354> huh
[01:06] <BigPick> semistud2354: Okay your problem is fairly complex.
[01:07] <nicon-> BigPick: done, but still nothing :/
[01:07] <BigPick> dave: okay in a terminal try "sudo ifconfig ra1 up"
[01:07] <semistud2354> like when my computer turns on...i have to hit enter in that pick partition thing, and then hit ctrl-d
[01:07] <jdmt> #ubuntu
[01:07] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Sadly, I don't remember off the top of my head. Hold on, I'll check
[01:07] <chovy> pkg: error processing tovid (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:07] <chovy> Errors were encountered while processing: tovid
[01:07] <chovy> how do i remove tovid?
[01:07] <tferero> Bones: thank you
[01:08] <nicon-> BigPick: when i use dhcp it gaves me ip like '169.254.bla.bla'
[01:08] <semistud2354> big pick you want me to do that
[01:08] <nicon-> :/
[01:08] <semistud2354> ??
[01:08] <nicon-> and ofc still cant work
[01:08] <tferero> Bones: I think the values run 0- 254, so 255 seemed odd
[01:08] <BigPick> nicon: allright
[01:08] <nicon-> BigPick: any idea?
[01:08] <dave> BigPick still nothing. ra1=nosuch device, ra0=nothing no reply
[01:08] <semistud2354> o nvm
[01:08] <semistud2354> so anyone have anyideas
[01:08] <semistud2354> ??
[01:09] <BigPick> nicon: you mean no ping?
[01:09] <BonesolTeraDyne> The "-B 255" switch sets the Advanced Power Management, which can go from 0-255, according to the app help (the "-h" switch).
[01:09] <BigPick> dave: oh sorry, did you try "sudo iwlist ra0 scanning"?
[01:09] <nicon-> BigPick: no ping and this weird dhcp ip-adrress
[01:09] <BigPick> well, your likely not connecting to the right network.
[01:10] <tferero> Bones: here is my concern, if I change these values and it gets worse, how do I know what my original values were?
[01:10] <dave> BigPick interface dosent support scanning: network is down
[01:10] <tferero> Bones: I am spinning at 5 t o7 times per minute which seems excessive
[01:10] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: That is excessive. Let me see what I can find out.
[01:10] <BigPick> nicon: in iwconfig, what does it list the "Access Point" as?
[01:11] <tferero> many thanks.  I read somwhere that this command line is temporary, but couldn't really confirm that
[01:11] <BigPick> dave: okay, try to reset the interface using "sudo ifconfig ra0 down" then "sudo ifconfig ra0 up"
[01:11] <nicon--> sorry, little problems
[01:12] <nicon--> so, no ping, and this weird ip
[01:12] <dave> BigPick nah tryed that
[01:12] <nicon--> when i was setting network at my home (now i set it at my friend's comp) sometimes i had the same ip
[01:12] <nicon--> and never work then
[01:12] <nicon--> this '169.254.9.115'
[01:13] <nicon--> it need to be sth like 192.168.1.5
[01:13] <BigPick> nicon: Then that is the wrong network
[01:13] <dave> BigPick still no luck
[01:13] <nicon--> BigPick: eh, what can i do?
[01:14] <BigPick> dave: okay "sudo rmmod rt2500" and then "sudo modprobe -v rt2500"
[01:14] <tferero> Bones: this is the page of instructions I am leaning towards: http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/200...ve-killer-bug/
[01:14] <BigPick> nicon: right click on network manager and select the proper network from the list
[01:14] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Yeah, I saw that entry as well
[01:14] <nicon--> BigPick: the list? where is this list? O_o
[01:15] <tferero> Bones: hope I am not offending you truncating your name this way? Probably should be Bonsol...lol
[01:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Found the answer as to what it does.
[01:15] <nicon--> sth is weird, if i change for eg essid, then in iwconfig there is still the same essid O_o
[01:15] <nicon--> wth?
[01:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: it's no problem
[01:15] <BigPick> nicon: when you right-click on the knetworkmanager icon it should show a menu. Under the "Wireless Networks" heading is the list of wireless networks your card can see.
[01:15] <tferero> Bonesol
[01:16] <tferero> not typing well here
[01:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695/comments/16
[01:16] <ubot3> Malone bug 59695 in acpi-support "default value in power.sh potentially kills laptop disks" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[01:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: That states what the 255 does
[01:16] <ubuntu_lord> i could really use some help........i was trying to rename a bunch of pictuers from .JPG to .jpg and i think i did something wrong because now theyre gone
[01:16] <nicon--> BigPick: mhm, so there it are no any networks
[01:16] <dave> BigPick: ok insmod /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/extra/rt2500.ko
[01:16] <tferero> Bonesol: thanks, looking
[01:17] <ubuntu_lord> i did sudo rn *.JPG *.jpg and then  sudo mv *.JPG *.jpg
[01:17] <BigPick> nicon: trying to manually config your wireless interface will not work because of network manager
[01:17] <ubuntu_lord> and now theyre not in the directory
[01:17] <awag> BigPick, I've decided to put the contents of my 80 gb drive onto my 320 gb, and reformat the 80 and use it as my boot drive, I should be able to mount my 320 gb drive as my home directory right?
[01:17] <BigPick> nicon: in the terminal run "sudo iwlist ra1 scanning"
[01:18] <nicon--> device or resource busy
[01:18] <BigPick> dave: okay now check dmesg for any messages from the driver
[01:18] <nicon--> O_o
[01:18] <tferero> Bonesol: interesting; my laptop runs at ~45 to 50 c most of the time; could make it too hot
[01:18] <nicon--> 5 minutes ago was sth other
[01:18] <juancamilo> hi all
[01:18] <dave> BigPic, link is not ready then times out etc etc...
[01:18] <Tm_T> ubuntu_lord: hello
[01:19] <ubuntu_lord> tm_t hi
[01:19] <nicon--> ok, now i can scan...
[01:19] <Tm_T> ubuntu_lord: why this nick this time?
[01:19] <nicon--> and c sth..
[01:19] <tferero> Bonesol: maybe a compromise value like 200; I read in one of the bug reports that 0 value is extreme power mode
[01:19] <nicon--> BigPick: can i wrote to u @ priv?
[01:19] <ubuntu_lord> i forgot to change the main nick back
[01:19] <BigPick> dave: are you sure the network is active?
[01:19] <Gannondorf> Yawn
[01:19] <Gannondorf> im bored
[01:19] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Yeah, You'd probably be safe around 200-225.
[01:20] <Gannondorf> Someone give me something to do
[01:20] <BigPick> awag: you should be able to mount it yes.
[01:20] <dave> BigPick yeap
[01:20] <tferero> Bonesol: I have one of those 'roll your eyes' questions we newbies tend to ask :)
[01:20] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: go ahead. XD
[01:20] <nicon--> BigPick: can i wrote to u @ priv?
[01:20] <BigPick> dave: and iwconfig shows the interface?
[01:21] <tferero> Bonesol: the instructions reference making an .sh file, but I don't seem to know how to do this
[01:21] <BigPick> Guys, I'm one freaking guy here.
[01:21] <awag> haha
[01:21] <nicon--> :D
[01:21] <nicon--> BigPick: please :P
[01:21] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: hold on, I'll show you.
[01:21] <awag> BigPick, don't pretend you don't have super powers
[01:21] <Gannondorf> konversation woo
[01:22] <BigPick> I do have a migrane.
[01:22] <tferero> Bonesol: many thanks; it is very much appreciated
[01:22] <nicon--> BigPick: U c a msg from me?
[01:22] <juancamilo> i got the installation cds of matlab for linux, a friend of mine, burned them using suse 10, and we use them to install it on several computers, I brougt them home to install the software on my laptop runnig kubuntu 7.1 but the cds are recognized as blank cds. I'm sure they are ok and that they are not empty, i also know that the problem is not the drive itself because I have a dual boot with windows xp and i can see the content of
[01:22] <juancamilo> the disk in windows.... any ideas?????
[01:22] <nicon--> because i got error @irc :P
[01:22] <juancamilo> anyone???
[01:22] <KingJere> could someone direct me to a good resource for getting a mp3 player to be recognized?
[01:22] <BigPick> Okay, dave. does iwconfig show your wireless card?
[01:23] <Gannondorf> KingJere: recognized in what
[01:23] <Gannondorf> Amarok?
[01:24] <KingJere> Gannondorf: just as a usb harddrive would be fine.
[01:24] <BigPick> juancamilo: I have no new ideas since yesterday.
[01:24] <dave> BigPick, yeah, iwconfig shows ra0 is there and the text network. although link quality is 0. though pda works on the wifi. just checked
[01:24] <Gannondorf> So you want to connect a usb harddrive to your computer
[01:25] <KingJere> Gannondorf: no. I bought a new mp3 player and its not even recognized as a generic storage volume.
[01:25] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42409/
[01:25] <juancamilo> BigPick: thanks tho
[01:25] <Gannondorf> hm
[01:25] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: read that. It has some simple instructions on how to make a shell script.
[01:25] <Gannondorf> try reinstalling amarok
[01:26] <Gannondorf> it should be recogzined by that
[01:26] <ubuntu_lord> can anyone help me with some missing files........i may have typed a command wrong and i dunno where they may have gone
[01:26] <KingJere> from /var/log/messages/ new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[01:26] <BigPick> dave: well I'm not sure then. I have no specific experience with that driver.
[01:27] <tferero> Bonesol: got it - .sh for shell script, lol - wasn't sure if there was a gui method or command line only
[01:27] <dave> BigPick well im just try a fresh install tomorrow see what happens
[01:27] <BigPick> dave: I hate to do this, but I might have to recommend you go looking at the wiki for the rt2x00 driver
[01:27] <juancamilo> I tried to mount it manually but this is what i got
[01:27] <dave> BigPick i have
[01:27] <juancamilo> juancamilo@jvasquez:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom/
[01:27] <juancamilo> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[01:27] <juancamilo> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[01:27] <juancamilo>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[01:27] <juancamilo>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:27] <juancamilo>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:27] <Tm_T> !paste | juancamilo
[01:27] <ubot3> juancamilo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:27] <BigPick> dave: well don't fresh install the whole operating system :P
[01:28] <BigPick> dave: OH DAVE WAIT!!
[01:28] <juancamilo> sorry
[01:29] <BigPick> dave: have you used the grapgic config tool yet?
[01:29] <dave> BigPick?
[01:29] <tferero> Bonesol: are you aware of how I can tell what power management level I am currently running at now? Even with sudo hdparm -a I don't recall seeing this value
[01:29] <dave> BigPick ?
[01:30] <Angelus> is it posible to have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed?
[01:30] <juancamilo> i need some help,.... i've been trying everything but i still can get my cdrom to work propertly.
[01:30] <BigPick> dave: "sudo apt-get rt2500"
[01:31] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Not too sure.I think it was "-C"
[01:31] <juancamilo> the proble summarices as follows: my kubuntu 7.1 will detect some cds ok, but most of them blank or as audio, and is not possible to see the contents of the disk...
[01:31] <dave> BigPick already newest version
[01:31] <tferero> Angelus: yes, I have done this but it clutters up the menus as it installs lots of stuff from the other desktop
[01:31] <BigPick> dave: good, now..
[01:32] <Angelus> what do you mean by "clutters" tferero
[01:33] <BigPick> dave: there should be a graphical config tool included, i'm not sure what it is called...
[01:33] <dave> BigPick rutilt ?
[01:33] <dave> BigPick no worky
[01:33] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Nope, that's not it, and I don't see anythign in the help. in fact, I see everything but "Get current Advanced Power Management setting"
[01:34] <juancamilo> how can i reinstall the driver for my cd-dvd rom in kubuntu? or see if it is installed and working fine?
[01:34] <BigPick> dave: does it give an error?
[01:35] <BigPick> juancamilo: The driver is built into the linux kernel.
[01:35] <dave> BigPick yeah, cant read in socket. code: 4
[01:36] <juancamilo> BigPick: mmm, i see, look, i'm not sure if this helps or give you a clue...
[01:36] <dave> BigPick, well...i guess i should go. its late here now. will be back tomorrow.
[01:37] <dave> ta for all your help
[01:38] <BigPick> dave: okay :)
[01:38] <tferero> Angelus: it adds the gnome packages to the kde menu and vice versa, so the menus get a wee bit full
[01:38] <Angelus> oh
[01:38] <Angelus> i see
[01:38] <tferero> Bonesol: the info switch gave me this line (among others): AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
[01:39] <zeke> yo
[01:39] <dope> when trying to boot from the live cd it seems to just skip over it.  the cd rom is set to boot first in the bios but it always goes straight to grub
[01:39] <tferero> Angelus: once you install the second desktop it is not so easy to do a clean uninstall, or at least it didn't seem that way to me
[01:39] <dope> and the live cd does boot on other machines
[01:40] <tferero> Angelus: let me see if I can find a link on that for you to read about it
[01:40] <Dezine> Evening
[01:41] <juancamilo> BigPick: this is what i got after mounting it manually.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42411/plain/
[01:41] <Angelus> thank you tferero
[01:42] <tferero> Angelus:  here is one:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[01:43] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: did you check to see if there is anything about APM in your BIOS? That's something that is mentioned in the bug.
[01:43] <BigPick> juancamilo: That error indicates that the cd has a corrupted superblock
[01:43] <BigPick> juancamilo: I feel your pain on this, I had to install mathcad and LabView on this laptop as well.
[01:43] <juancamilo> BigPick: the thing is the cd works fine under suse and kubunu....
[01:43] <Dezine> Could anyone suggest a decent alternative to Dreamweaver?
[01:44] <BonesolTeraDyne> Dezine: Kompozer.
[01:44] <tferero> Bonesol: no, hadn't done that yet
[01:44] <Dezine> Alright, I'll have to check that out, waiting for my sytem to upgrade to Gutsy
[01:44] <BonesolTeraDyne> Dezine: http://www.kompozer.net/ is the website
[01:44] <juancamilo> BigPick: just in my laptop kubuntu detects it as blank, or audio, or nothing...
[01:45] <zeke> there a channel for knoppmyth?
[01:45] <Dezine> Thanks for the info!
[01:45] <zeke> yup
[01:46] <BigPick> juancamilo: allright, well lets take a look at your cdrom then
[01:46] <juancamilo> BigPick: all right then...
[01:46] <BigPick> juancamilo: can you pastebin "sudo lspci -v"
[01:46] <tferero> Angelus: I am trying to find a reference for the clean uninstall if you were to remove one desktop or the other
[01:46] <tferero> Angelus:  I can't seem to locate it now, of course
[01:46] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: hold on, I've got the link for that
[01:47] <Angelus> tferero: well in that case i'll make a format no worries
[01:47] <Angelus> :p
[01:47] <juancamilo> BigPick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42412/
[01:47] <tferero> Angelus:  I did that too.   I didn't ask you what distro you were running - I use Kubuntu
[01:48] <zeke> cause I try to do an aptitude dist-upgrade and it tells me I have lots of broken packages and unmet dependencies
[01:48] <BonesolTeraDyne> Angelus: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde for KDE only
[01:48] <Angelus> i use kubuntu too tferero, im a big kde fan
[01:48] <zeke> yet the packages that it says are broken work alright
[01:48] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: that the one?
[01:48] <tferero> Bonesol: I knew I saw that somewhere
[01:48] <tferero> Angelus: me too
[01:49] <BonesolTeraDyne> Angelus: same here
[01:49] <tferero> Angelus:  I looked over gnome for a bit, but liked kde better
[01:50] <tferero> Angelus: have you used linux for a long tim?  I am really new to it, but learning really fast
[01:50] <Angelus> i got adictd to kde, too nice.
[01:50] <Angelus> tferero: hmm about 7-9 months iv been using linux
[01:50] <Angelus> soemthing like that i think
[01:51] <Angelus> hmm , 7months
[01:51] <Angelus> thats it
[01:51] <BigPick> juancamilo: okay, can you run "lsmod | grep cdrom"
[01:51] <tferero> Angelus: 2 months here
[01:51] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero, Angelus: Might want to take that sort of discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic . Not sure what kind of mood the operators are in
[01:51] <tferero> Bonesol: sorry, forgot my manners
[01:52] <Angelus> there's no operators BonesolTeraDyne :p
[01:52] <Angelus> lol
[01:52] <BonesolTeraDyne> Angelus: There are, they just don't stay in operator mode at all times.
[01:52] <Angelus> oh
[01:52] <BonesolTeraDyne> Angelus: they raise to op level only when needed
[01:53] <BigPick> juancamilo: and see if the cdrom module is loaded please
[01:53] <lencho> hello
[01:53] <juancamilo> BigPick:  this is the output: cdrom                  37536  1 sr_mod
[01:53] <tferero> Bonesol:  I am thinking if my -B switch is already at 255, I am going to have to check the bios next time I log in
[01:54] <lencho> i`m a noob using kubuntu jeje it`s my first time using Konversation
[01:54] <lencho> somone speak spanish
[01:54] <BigPick> juancamilo: good, okay now "ls -la /dev/cdrom" please
[01:54] <lencho> ?
[01:54] <BigPick> lencho: english
[01:55] <lencho> okdk
[01:55] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: I hope it's the BIOS, and not somethign worse. With the way the laptop APM bug is being handled, I'd hate to see it get worse.
[01:55] <juancamilo> BigPick: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-10-27 19:15 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[01:55] <lencho> i try my best
[01:55] <tferero> Angelus: one thing I found after installing gnome, was that there were one or two utilities I liked better so I kept those
[01:55] <tferero> But I also kept alot of other stuff I fear
[01:56] <Angelus> i never liked gnome , but kde....... love at first sight
[01:56] <tferero> Bonesol:  I second that.  This is a fairly new drive - about 8 months old and not used much before
[01:56] <Angelus> gnome is not ugly, nicer then windows, but man kde... r0ckz
[01:57] <lencho> kde is beautiful i mean
[01:57] <tferero> Bonesol; so most of the use is in the last 2 months; I have 56,000 spins already
[01:57] <lencho> yeah kde roks
[01:58] <BigPick> jauncamilo: okay, checking something...
[01:58] <danny_> i need help
[01:58] <BonesolTeraDyne> !nick
[01:58] <ubot3> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:58] <BonesolTeraDyne> that's not the one I wanted, though I did need that info.
[01:59] <juancamilo> BigPick: take your time
[01:59] <danny_> i need to know how to installing  programs like firefox, adobe flash
[01:59] <KingJere> !ehci_hcd
[01:59] <ubot3> Factoid ehci_hcd not found
[01:00] <KingJere> !uhci_hcd
[01:00] <ubot3> Factoid uhci_hcd not found
[01:00] <BonesolTeraDyne> !botabuse | KingJere
[01:00] <ubot3> KingJere: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:00] <crimsun_> danny_: use Adept.
[01:00] <Tm_T> !install | danny_
[01:00] <ubot3> danny_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:00] <Tm_T> noooooo
[01:00] <Tm_T> bah
[01:00] <Tm_T> !adept | danny_
[01:00] <ubot3> danny_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:00] <Tm_T> my bad
[01:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> Tm_T: haha. I know the feeling.
[01:01] <lencho> hey i have problem with adept
[01:01] <Tm_T> BonesolTeraDyne: I've got the feeling by Hasselhoff ?
[01:01] <Tm_T> lencho: spit it out
[01:02] <BonesolTeraDyne> Tm_T: No, and that's TMI.
[01:02] <danny_> i need  to install firefox
[01:02] <Tm_T> TMI?
[01:02] <danny_> i dont know how to
[01:02] <Tm_T> danny_: yes, use adept?
[01:02] <BonesolTeraDyne> Tm_T: Too much info...
[01:03] <Tm_T> BonesolTeraDyne: I see
[01:03] <danny_> adept?
[01:03] <danny_> im new
[01:03] <lencho> im running kubuntu with vmware im trying it, but when i try to update someting it shows an error message
[01:03] <Tm_T> danny_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:03] <lencho> ok thx
[01:05] <tferero> Bonesol: before I forget, thank your for your help - several questions answered, which helped me a lot
[01:06] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Glad I could help
[01:06] <tferero> danny:  have you used adept in any way before?
[01:06] <Tm_T> BonesolTeraDyne: mind to join #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[01:07] <BonesolTeraDyne> Tm_T: I'm in there. why?
[01:07] <Tm_T> oh great
[01:07] <lencho> es
[01:08] <BigPick> juancamilo: okay lets do this the hardcore way
[01:08] <juancamilo> BigPick: ok
[01:09] <dope> can i install gutsy from within fiesty?
[01:09] <BigPick> juancamilo: this is kinda a last-ditch effort here.
[01:09] <juancamilo> dope: yes, use adep
[01:09] <Tm_T> dope: upgrade ofcourse :))
[01:09] <dope> the upgrade completely hosed my system
[01:10] <dope> which is why i wanna do a fresh install
[01:10] <BigPick> juancamilo: run "sudo dd if=/dev/scd0 of=test.iso"
[01:10] <juancamilo> BigPick: no prob,
[01:10] <rdvon> how do i upgrade my kubuntu to gutsy gibbon?
[01:10] <Tm_T> rdvon: see topic
[01:10] <rdvon> thanks!
[01:10] <rdvon> :)
[01:10] <rdvon> can't i upgrade via adept?
[01:10] <Tm_T> yes
[01:10] <dope> i wouldn't
[01:10] <Tm_T> its all in the topic =)
[01:10] <dope> well i tried
[01:11] <juancamilo> BigPick: dd: opening `/dev/scd0': No medium foun
[01:11] <dope> now i have a broken linux install
[01:11] <RabidDog_> Somebody needs to add 'Kubuntu' to the spell checker dictionary for Kontact!  It keeps showing up as misspelled.
[01:11] <BigPick> juancamilo: what the hell.... and the cd is in there?
[01:11] <dope> is there a way i can mount the iso from within fiesty and boot off of that or something?
[01:11] <zeke> lol
[01:12] <rdvon> I don't think so... ;)
[01:12] <jarn> Where is bash history? I forget.
[01:13] <juancamilo> BigPIck: sorry for that. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42413/
[01:13] <hangthedj> ~/.bash_history
[01:14] <BigPick> juancamilo: okay, something way wonky is going on
[01:14] <rdvon> what's so different about kubuntu gutsy gibbon?
[01:14] <juancamilo> BigPick: ??? i have no idea...
[01:15] <rdvon> does it have all the cool foxbuntu features or whatever?
[01:15] <BigPick> juancamilo: run "sudo rmmod cdrom; sudo modprobe -v cdrom" for me please
[01:15] <rdvon> yay!
[01:15] <rdvon> new gimp :)
[01:15] <ardchoille> BigPick: I don't use dd often, but shouldn't if be /mountpoint and not /dev/device ?
[01:16] <rdvon> hmm... for a full system upgrade; this is a pretty sort d/l time
[01:16] <BigPick> ardchoille: The problem is we can't mount the cd.
[01:16] <ardchoille> BigPick: Oh, ok
[01:16] <rdvon> it's already 68% doen.
[01:16] <rdvon> *done.
[01:16] <juancamilo> BigPick: juancamilo@jvasquez:~$ sudo rmmod cdrom; ERROR: Module cdrom is in use by sr_mod
[01:16] <jarn> Is there a way to see what was outputted to a shell when what you want is up high enough that it's past the point you can scroll to it?
[01:17] <BigPick> jauncamilo: Allright dude, I'm totally out of ideas now.
[01:17] <stdin> jarn: unless you put it to some log, no
[01:17] <ardchoille> jarn: pipe the output to "more":  command | more
[01:17] <wilson_> jarn: when you run the command put |more afterwards   or |less
[01:17] <ardchoille> cat really_big_file | more
[01:17] <wilson_> less is better
[01:17] <ardchoille> less is better, yeah
[01:17] <stdin> less is more :p
[01:17] <ardchoille> hehe
[01:17] <jarn> Haha, you beat me to it. :P
[01:18] <jarn> Okay, guys, thanks.
[01:18] <BigPick> juancamilo: I'm sorry dude :(
[01:18] <jarn> Too bad what I was doing took awhile so it will take awhile to do it once more.
[01:18] <danny_> how do you install a program on kubuntu
[01:18] <jarn> The description for more even says that less is more.
[01:19] <rdvon> I don't see the version upgrade button :\
[01:19] <juancamilo> BigPick: thanks for your help tho, nice try...
[01:19] <juancamilo> ardchoille: nay ideas?
[01:19] <ardchoille> juancamilo: no :(
[01:19] <BigPick> juancamilo: if dd can't get anything, then something is really off.
[01:19] <danny_> help
[01:19] <ardchoille> juancamilo: What happens when you try to mount it?
[01:20] <BigPick> danny_: Use adept
[01:20] <rdvon> ok. i got it.
[01:20] <danny_> im updating everything
[01:20] <danny_> but nothing with adobe flash player....
[01:20] <rdvon> I'm having a problem with the version upgrade...
[01:20] <rdvon> it said it couldn't verify the integrity of the upgrade app D:
[01:21] <BigPick> Allright guys, I gotta get some dinner, I'll see you all later.
[01:21] <danny_> ok
[01:21] <juancamilo> ardchoille: im runnig kubuntu 7.1 and some of the cds that i use are not getting detected, they are detected as blank or audio ...but i cant see the contents...
[01:21] <danny_> is there a mac theme for kubuntu?
[01:21] <danny_> im a fan of there close icons
[01:21] <ardchoille> danny_: yes
[01:22] <danny_> where can i find this
[01:22] <juancamilo> BigPick: what is dd?
[01:22] <rdvon> bah. it's taking a long time to get the dist upgrader.
[01:22] <jarn> Why does checkinstall no longer accept underscores in version name?
[01:22] <ardchoille> danny_: Like this? http://ardchoille42.googlepages.com/kde-osx2.jpg
[01:22] <rdvon> :<
[01:22] <danny_> ardchoille_: thx
[01:22] <danny_> yea
[01:22] <ardchoille> danny_: There is a tutorial for that:  http://baghira.sourceforge.net
[01:23] <rdvon> I need help!
[01:23] <ardchoille> danny_: But, don't compile baghira, it's in the repos: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[01:23] <ardchoille> danny_: Sorry, the tut is:  http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[01:24] <Tm_T> !patience | rdvon
[01:24] <ubot3> rdvon: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:25] <rdvon> !stfu
[01:25] <ubot3> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:25] <rdvon> jfgfi?
[01:26] <Tm_T> rdvon: I ask you to behave
[01:26] <juancamilo> ardchoille: for this: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom/ this is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42414/
[01:27] <rdvon> should I close all apps before performing the upgrade?
[01:27] <danny_> ardchoille
[01:27] <ardchoille> juancamilo: and did dmesg have any info?
[01:27] <danny_> im new its hard any help
[01:27] <ardchoille> danny_: The tutorial explains it much better than I can.
[01:28] <danny_> well
[01:28] <danny_> im sort of new to linux is there a vid i can watch like a guided tour
[01:28] <rdvon> danny_: what do you need help with?
[01:29] <danny_> installing a mac os x theme for kubuntu
[01:29] <rdvon> Oh, I tried doing that a while back.
[01:29] <rdvon> one sec.
[01:29] <ardchoille> danny_: Be honest, is it that the tutorial is huge and you don't want to read it all?
[01:29] <danny_> no
[01:29] <danny_> im new
[01:29] <danny_> im a windows user
[01:30] <danny_> i dont get this stuff
[01:30] <rdvon> It's much easier than you think ;)
[01:30] <rdvon> just different.
[01:30] <ardchoille> You're new? Ok, first thing you need to know.. you're going to have to learn and read in order toget the most out of Linux.
[01:30] <rdvon> you need baghira, do you have it?
[01:30] <danny_> and i dont use kubuntu much because it doesnt support wifi
[01:30] <juancamilo> ardchoille: man, thats a very long output, what im exactly looking for?
[01:30] <BonesolTeraDyne> rdvon: I usually don't recommend upgrading. It tends to break things too easily. Infact, it broke both my laptop and desktop installs. I suggest just backing up everything in your home directory and reinstalling.
[01:30] <danny_> and i cant connect to my network
[01:30] <ardchoille> juancamilo: No idea, I've never had a device problem.
[01:31] <rdvon> danny_: you need ndiswrapper.
[01:31] <danny_> rdvon: how do i get
[01:31] <rdvon> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[01:31] <rdvon> then,
[01:31] <rdvon> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-gtk
[01:31] <juancamilo> ardchille: this is only dmesg | tail:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42415/
[01:31] <rdvon> danny_: type that in the konsole
[01:32] <flash_> rdvon: what's the use of ndiswrapper?
[01:32] <rdvon> flash_: to get wireless cards working..
[01:32] <danny_> rdvon: please wait and repeat that when im done updating my system using adept
[01:33] <rdvon> I opend a private message window, do you see it?
[01:33] <ardchoille> juancamilo: That device may be dead or going bad.
[01:34] <flash_> dvon: does ubuntu use it
[01:34] <rdvon> danny_: what type of wireless card do you have?
[01:34] <juancamilo> ardchoille: it works with the kubuntu cd, which is burned as well, and if i log on win xp it works fine too
[01:34] <ardchoille> juancamilo: I don't know what to tell you then :(
[01:35] <juancamilo> BigPick: ardchille: thanks for the time... i could not get it to work, i'll boot to windows to get the info from the cds
[01:35] <danny_> i have a dell mini wireless card
[01:35] <danny_> i have to register my nickname
[01:36] <danny_> can anyone change my nick to danny7210
[01:36] <danny_> so i can register it
[01:36] <danny_> danny is taken
[01:36] <danny_> Admin_
[01:37] <danny_> can u change my nickname to <danny7210_>
[01:37] <flash_> im couldnt see it in the list but danny_
[01:37] <danny_> ill show you the full name
[01:37] <Angelus> danny_: to change you're nick, type "/nick danny7210"
[01:38] <danny_> type "/nick danny7210
[01:38] <danny_>  "/nick danny7210
[01:38] <Angelus> without the " "
[01:38] <Angelus> :)
[01:39] <danny7210> ok
[01:39] <danny7210> there
[01:40] <danny7210> rdvon
[01:41] <danny7210> my wireless card is a broadcom corportation dell wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[01:42] <rdvon> yeah... something bad happened.
[01:42] <rdvon> real bad..
[01:42] <rdvon> in the middle of the upgrade kubuntu locked up.
[01:43] <matthias> hi
[01:44] <Angelus> hi, can someone tell me  a data recovery progam to recover deleted data
[01:44] <matthias> i dont know
[01:44] <alex-weej> does kubuntu use konq or firefox as default browser
[01:45] <snes_rocks> konqueror
[01:45] <alex-weej> fuck sake
[01:45] <alex-weej> thanks
[01:45] <snes_rocks> Is there any possibility, besides manually installing eclipse, of getting JUnit4 to work?
[01:45] <j1solutions> hey you guys hello
[01:45] <matthias> hi
[01:46] <JDMT> does the Caps and Scroll lights on your keyboard blink?
[01:46] <j1solutions> what is the best tool for managing wireless connections on grump gibbon?
[01:46] <snes_rocks> i prefer knetworkmanager
[01:47] <j1solutions> snes, you use that for wireless?
[01:47] <snes_rocks> yes
[01:47] <j1solutions> this card is a cisco that acts funny
[01:48] <j1solutions> it has eth1 and wifi1
[01:48] <j1solutions> and eth1 is the one that works
[01:48] <flash_> hi, how can i catch the packages on Lan?
[01:49] <j1solutions> thanks snesrocks
[01:51] <j1solutions> anyone running asterisk on kubu 7.1?
[01:53] <Search4Lancer> eep! when I try to run cpudynd, I get "cpudynd: CPU frequency control disabled"! As such, my CPU is running full speed ahead, and it's only a matter of time before I overheat... why would freq control be disabled, and how can I reenable it?
[01:54] <j1solutions> hey droning
[01:54] <j1solutions> what's new?
[01:55] <j1solutions> whats up with the looping updates
[01:55] <j1solutions> i keep getting messages, which downloads software, which doesn't install
[01:56] <j1solutions> anyone else getting this error?
[01:56] <Search4Lancer> no idea what you're talking about
[01:59] <j1solutions> i get a messge in the system tray saying i have updates, adept appears to dowload serveral
[02:00] <j1solutions> packages, which then aborts, and begins again.
[02:06] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[02:06] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:10] <redheat> ok let's head to the people on Kubuntu
[02:10] <redheat> hi everyone
[02:10] <redheat> I want to share files between my laptop which has gutsy gibbon installed on it and my desktop which three OS' installed on it..windows xp, windows vista and ubuntu gutsy
[02:11] <redheat> how can I share media between my laptop and my desktop, especially the on the laptop side
[02:13] <redheat> ok I got it
[02:41] <tekteen> anyone here know if there is a developers chatroom?
[02:44] <Tm_T> tekteen: for developers of what?
[02:45] <tekteen> ubuntu
[02:45] <Tm_T> #ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-devel
[02:45] <tekteen> thanx
[02:45] <Tm_T> hmm
[02:45] <Tm_T> !irc
[02:45] <userbn> .
[02:46] <userbn> n
[02:46] <Tm_T> ah, ubot3 is other side
[02:46] <userbn> what?
[02:46] <userbn> o
[02:46] <tekteen> Tm_T: do you know how to recreate the pool on the alt. install cd?
[02:46] <Tm_T> nope
[02:46] <tekteen> thanks anyway
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> cptnspoon,  check in /media/
[02:55] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone know anything about kernel module configuration files? i've got what should be a simple question, this is for a class and want to verify my guess is right...
[02:55] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: thanks
[02:57] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: Yay, found the file. Thank you so much!!!
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Had to find the Baby pictures right! :)
[02:58] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: something like that :P it was my resume actually :D I can put this down in my skills now :P
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> skilled in beeing a leet haxor.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:59] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: A leet haxor?? What does that mean??
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> means you are a cool linux chix :)
[03:01] <Black_Chaos> I just got compiz installed and I can't seem to get the "super" key working.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Black_Chaos, i had a similer issue - then relized i had the window/game switch on game on my  Keyboard.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:02] <Black_Chaos> i don't have one of those. This is on a Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop
[03:03] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: gee thanks :P my boyfriend will be proud of me even working out how to get on here. I think he's trying to make me a linux geek.
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> You can dress up as Tux for Haloween
[03:05] <danny_> hello
[03:05] <danny_> i need help installing a Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card on kubuntu
[03:06] <danny_> help please
[03:06] <danny_> would be nice
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont do much with wireless.. sorry.,. perhaps others can help
[03:07] <danny_> kk
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> There is also a lot of info on wireless  and laptops in the forums
[03:07] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: uhm?
[03:07] <danny_> or can somebody help me install a mac os x theme for kubuntu :)
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> danny_,  ICK.
[03:08] <Tm_T> !fi | hara
[03:08] <ubot3_> hara: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[03:08] <danny_> ?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> danny_,  thers only proberly 100 of them to choose from
[03:08] <danny_> well were can i find them
[03:08] <danny_> ill google it
[03:08] <danny_> lol
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> i think bagheria in the repos is similer
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> check out the extra kde themes in default
[03:09] <sonoftheclayr> danny_: try kde-look.org
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> there are a lot in the repos.. check there first. :)
[03:09] <sonoftheclayr> baghira is a good osx theme i think
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> I hate the ox-x window decor. But the widgets are ok. :)
[03:09] <cptnspoon> okay i know this isnt a kubuntu question at all but i need help. I am currently a 1st year apprentice beauty therapist and my boss extended my probationary period because "I don't smile enough". Load of bull...
[03:10] <cptnspoon> So I need to write my resume to apply for another... but how do I say why I am looking for another job?
[03:10] <[ifr0g]> danny_, http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11
[03:10] <cptnspoon> I can't say my boss was mean. any ideas?
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> 'looking for a job with  better  long term ..... somthing..." :)
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> goals..
[03:11] <danny_> thanks
[03:11] <[ifr0g]> cptnspoon, Say, The company removed many due to low profit.
[03:12] <Tm_T> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> danny_,  if you use the compiz stuff and emerald - theres about 20 OX-X wana be themes for that.
[03:12] <Tm_T> !ndiswrapper
[03:12] <ubot3_> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:12] <Tm_T> oh boy...
[03:12] <Tm_T> cptnspoon: #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[03:12] <Tm_T> cptnspoon: wrong channel for that, please #kubuntu-offtopic for OT discussion
[03:13] <Tm_T> heyyy, I said about offtopic
[03:13] <Tm_T> please, OT discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:15] <HomeRoey> hey all
[03:15] <HomeRoey> er
[03:15] <HomeRoey> how do I install codecs for mp3/ogg/flac again?
[03:15] <Tm_T> !mp3
[03:15] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:15] <HomeRoey> THANK YOU  :)
[03:15] <Tm_T> HomeRoey: ogg is "builtin" :(
[03:15] <HomeRoey> oh, right
[03:16] <Tm_T> aka "good default"
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> i alwasy install that kubuntu-restricted-thang. :)
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> !find kubuntu-restricted
[03:16] <ubot3> Found: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:24] <danny__> hello
[03:24] <danny__> can anyone help me with installing a mac os x theme im having trouble
[03:28] <danny__> i need help
[03:28] <danny__> how do i find out what version of kubuntu i have.....
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> danny_,  lsb_release -a
[03:30] <danny__> thanks
[03:33] <j1solutions> nic dr willis
[03:34] <danny__> i need help finding and installing a mac os x theme for kubuntu
[03:34] <danny__> i can seem to get on im new so
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !find bagh
[03:34] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira
[03:34] <danny__> help would be nice
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !info kwin-baghira
[03:34] <ubot3> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (gutsy), package size 773 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[03:34] <t3ch13> Where can I find info on getting Compiz to work in Kubuntu with a Nvidia graphics card?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[03:35] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> Right there. :) heh..
[03:35] <danny__> dr willis
[03:35] <Stingball> Help please when I try to update i get "Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  maindeb/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[03:35] <danny__>  lsb_release -a
[03:35] <danny__> danny@ubuntu:~$  lsb_release -a
[03:36] <danny__> No LSB modules are available.
[03:36] <danny__> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[03:36] <danny__> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[03:36] <danny__> Release:        7.04
[03:36] <danny__> Codename:       feisty
[03:36] <danny__> danny@ubuntu:~$
[03:36] <danny__> danny@ubuntu:~$
[03:36] <stdin> !paste | danny_
[03:36] <ubot3> danny_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:36] <stdin> and danny__ ^
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> pastebining - normal output? :)
[03:36] <danny__> i need a mac os x theme for ubuntu 7.04 feisty
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> danny__,   kwin-baghira  is such a theme
[03:37] <danny__> where can it be located
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> danny__,  its IN THE repositories
[03:37] <Stingball> ok with pastebin when I try version upgrade I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42422/
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> fire up your fave package manager search/install it. :)
[03:38] <Stingball> I have the cd if it helps of 7.10
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> !find kwin
[03:38] <viktor_> hi everytime i try to connect to kopete messenger it says wrong password but its not the wrong password
[03:38] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator, kwin-style-knifty (and 6 others)
[03:38] <stdin> Stingball: try disabling all non *.archive.ubuntu.com repositories
[03:38] <Stingball> ok thanks
[03:38] <danny__> thanks
[03:39] <danny__> !find kwin-baghira
[03:39] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira
[03:39] <danny__> lol
[03:39] <danny__> i installed it
[03:39] <danny__> now what
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> use the theme manager tools to enable it?
[03:40] <viktor_> can u donwload msn for kubuntu
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> !msn
[03:40] <ubot3> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:40] <danny__> dr willis where is theme manager.........
[03:40] <stdin> danny__: set it in 'system settings > appearance > style' and system 'settings > appearance > window decorator'
[03:40] <viktor_> or some other chat program thats not so stone age for live messenger
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> Right there in with all the other system setting stuff. Not using KDE right now so i cant  tell you exactly
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> start exploring Kde. :)
[03:41] <Stingball> gain rather then pidgin?
[03:41] <danny__> .........
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> a kde 'theme' is composed of different parts.. The window decortation, the widgets, the icons. and the color.
[03:41] <danny__> great
[03:41] <danny__> im new to kde
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> you can mixx and match the parts with the  appearance tools
[03:41] <danny__> so idk
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> system -> settings -> appearance , start twiddling. :) have fun
[03:42] <danny__> thats not for kubuntu
[03:42] <danny__> .......
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> You could have Baghira window decorations with Windows 95 style buttons.
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> danny__,  have you been asking for a  GNOME theme in the Kubuntu channel?
[03:43] <danny__> no i need one for kubuntu
[03:43] <danny__> GNOME IS UBUNTU
[03:43] <stdin> Dr_Willis: s/system -> settings/system settings/
[03:43] <stdin> danny__: NO NEED FOR CAPS
[03:43] <Stingball> stdin: looks like you wuz on the money
[03:44] <danny__> ok
[03:44] <Stingball> Gnome is I am agast
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu 'uses' gnome. :)    or you can make it use other window managers.
[03:44] <danny__> ......
[03:44] <danny__> i just need a theme for kubuntu 7.04 feisty
[03:44] <Stingball> 7.04 remembers that from long ago
[03:45] <stdin> danny__: you installed it, then I told you have to activate it. what more do you want?
[03:45] <danny__> im new i really dont know anything about ubuntu i just got my wireless card working that is my first thing done
[03:45] <Stingball> liek 3 min
[03:45] <danny__> i dont kw to activate itnow ho
[03:45] <stdin> danny__: set it in 'system settings > appearance > style' and system 'settings > appearance > window decorator'
[03:45] <viktor_> hi how do i install peigeion
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> take some time and explore all the kde settings  tools/kcontrol panel things
[03:45] <danny__> im using kubuntu........
[03:45] <danny__> i have 7.04
[03:45] <Tm_T> danny__: yes, we know that
[03:45] <Stingball> peigeion or pidgin?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> actually you can right click on the title bar and get to the settings also cant ya.
[03:46] <danny__> i dont have appearance thing
[03:47] <danny__> stdin
[03:47] <stdin> danny__: in system settings click on  'appearance' under 'Look & Feel', then in 'style' and 'window decorator' choose baghira
[03:47] <danny__> ..........
[03:48] <viktor_> does anyone know of a package for emerald theme mananger which will giv u a hole selection of themese rather then downloadin 1 at a time
[03:48] <danny__> i dont have appearance
[03:48] <stdin> then you haven't got a default kubuntu install
[03:48] <danny__> i have wubi i installed kubuntu 7.04 feisty
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> viktor_,  i dont think there is one. i use the  emerald theme tools to 'download' them from the emerald repos
[03:48] <Stingball> danny__: why not start with a clean shiney 7.10?
[03:48] <danny__> ahhhhh i just got my wireless card working ..........
[03:48] <Linusx> Dr_Willis: can that Mac theme be installed on dapper?
[03:49] <danny__> and i cant install it using wubi
[03:49] <Stingball> danny__: so now you knwo how it's done
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Linusx,  thers a lot of mac-LOOKING themes
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> !wubi
[03:49] <ubot3> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Ive never touched wubi so cant vouch for how messed up it may be. :)
[03:49] <danny__> it works great
[03:49] <Stingball> < has great fear of the wubi
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> danny__,  aparently not if  you are having such issues with it...
[03:50] <stdin> danny__: this is what system settings should look like http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1528/systemsettingstw5.png
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> danny__,  and theres a great many # of others with   issues i see
[03:50] <danny__> woah
[03:50] <danny__> this is 7.04
[03:50] <danny__> ?
[03:50] <viktor_> how do change the time
[03:50] <stdin> that's the 7.04 system settings,
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> i would dump 7.04
[03:51] <Stingball> confused wubi is great all haill the wubi or and theres a great many # of others with   issues i see
[03:51] <danny__> ok got it
[03:51] <danny__> lol
[03:51] <stdin> viktor_: right click the clock > Adjust Date & Time
[03:51] <danny__> downloaded patch
[03:51] <danny__> works!
[03:51] <Stingball> right click on the time
[03:52] <sparr> Are there any debian-friendly ways to keep multiple versions of wine installed at the same time?
[03:52] <Linusx> Dr_Willis: Am I understanding you right... that 'kwin-baghira' is / contains more than one theme?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> its a os-x theme. Theres dozens of OTHER os-x look alike themes out there
[03:52] <danny__> no you got it wrong
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> it looks like os-x
[03:53] <danny__> i was going into all aplications
[03:53] <viktor_> can pigeion connect to msn
[03:53] <Stingball> can you make osx look liek ubuntu?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Stingball,  no idea. i dont care about OSX :)
[03:55] <Stingball> nor do I
[03:55] <danny__> how do i change nick
[03:56] <sparr> danny__: /nick whatever
[03:57] <n2kubuntu> there
[03:57] <n2kubuntu> thanks
[03:58] <n2kubuntu> does anyone have a kde theme of mac os x
[03:58]  * Dr_Willis thinks hes seen this go full circle 10 times now.
[03:59] <Stingball> Sorry you want to join #osx on de mac
[03:59] <n2kubuntu> but i need it for kubuntu
[03:59] <n2kubuntu> not mac
[04:00] <Stingball> why not since your using windows do a VMware install of osx
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> If youve installed the kwin-Baghira theme - thenyou have an os-x theme installed for kde.
[04:01] <sanzanric> kubuntu
[04:01] <n2kubuntu> it pops up saying it crashed
[04:01] <n2kubuntu> when i use ark
[04:01] <Stingball> maybe the issue ishe is running a comadore or sinclar?
[04:01] <n2kubuntu> adept i mean
[04:02] <n2kubuntu> ?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> i dont have a 7.04 system any more.. so cant help ya with trouble shooting that. I much perfer  7.10 gutsy
[04:03] <n2kubuntu> ok
[04:03] <n2kubuntu> i will make a live cd
[04:03] <n2kubuntu> can u make a live cd on kubuntu
[04:03] <n2kubuntu> and burn it
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> You can burn iso images with k3b
[04:04] <n2kubuntu> ok
[04:06] <n2kubuntu> wow i get 200kbs on wifi using kubuntu compared to windows 100kb
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> if you are super addicted to OS-X look check out DreamLinux
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/index.html
[04:08] <grul> how do i get the command du to include hidden files?
[04:08] <NDPMacBook> Whats Dreamlinux based on?
[04:08] <NDPMacBook> Ubuntu?
[04:08] <viktor_> how do u get compiz fusion to auto start
[04:09] <KalEl> how can i make ktorrent shutdown when the downlaods complete?
[04:10] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> NDPMacBook,  no idea.  its not ubuntu however.
[04:10] <tekstacy> What's a simple drawing program? Like the equiv of MS Paint
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> viktor_,  that compiz factid describe setting up the KDE Autostart  to start it
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[04:11] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:13] <manu__> un chat de kubunru en español??
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> !es
[04:14] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:14] <manu__> thanks
[04:15] <grul> !se
[04:15] <ubot3> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[04:18] <viktor_> how do i check system performance
[04:20] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm having issues with a Kubuntu Feisty that I've just upgraded to Gutsy.  As far as I can tell everything is working OK except for, of course, the nvidia driver.
[04:21] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Whenever I try to play a Matroska file with Mplayer, it starts to slow down after a while.  After some messing around with the options I got it to play.  Mplayer says my computer is too slow, but I have a 1.7 Gig CPU.  Plus, I was able to easily play MKV files before.
[04:21] <Crell> Running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg auto-detects the nv driver.  That works, but doesn't go above 1024x768 resolution and is 2D only and so on.  (I have a 20" LCD.)
[04:21] <Crell> If I switch to the nvidia driver via the System Settings control panel, then on restart I get no X output.
[04:21] <Ertain> !compiz
[04:21] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:22] <Crell> Any suggestions on how to get it to behave itself?
[04:22] <Crell> Running startx gives me an error failed to load the nvidia kernel module.
[04:25] <Crell> !nvidia
[04:25] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <n2kubuntu> !find byghira
[04:27] <ubot3> Package/file byghira does not exist in gutsy
[04:27] <n2kubuntu> hello
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> !find kwin
[04:30] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator, kwin-style-knifty (and 6 others)
[04:31] <n2kubuntu> does anybody know a good doc for kubuntu
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> The Kubuntu home page has a lot of guides. and wiki links
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> not sure what guides are isntalled by default
[04:32] <danny_> does anybody know a good mac doc for kubuntu
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> 'mac doc' ?
[04:32] <danny_> a doc bar
[04:32] <danny_> ....
[04:32] <Crell> You man a Dock.
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> you mean a 'dock'
[04:32] <danny_> yes
[04:32] <danny_> dock
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:32] <danny_> srry
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> !find dock
[04:32] <ubot3> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)
[04:32] <danny_> sorry
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> every one ive seen.. rather suck
[04:32] <Crell> That K is important. :-)
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> then again.. the origianl on OS-X sort of sucks
[04:33] <Crell> Yes, well, there is that...
[04:33] <Crell> You can simulate it kinda sorta with just Kicker if you really want to, albeit with less flashy graphics.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> check out http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=2767   also for a guide on 'advant window manager' tool
[04:38] <Crell> Is there a recommended list of video cards that are good/bad to try using with compiz?
[04:38] <Crell> The wiki does not say.
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> the biggest and fastest nvidia card ya can afford. :)
[04:39] <Crell> Well my desktop has a 6600 GT, which is the biggest and fastest that is available for AGP. :-)
[04:39] <Tm_T> eh
[04:39] <Crell> I also have a laptop with an Intel X3000 (Thinkpad T61).
[04:39] <Tm_T> Crell: should be more than enough
[04:39] <Tm_T> both of them IMO
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. i though there was an 8600 for the agp.
[04:40] <Crell> Dr_Willis: There could be now.  There wasn't when I bought this card.
[04:40] <Crell> Tm_T: Thanks, I'll try them and see how badly they break. :-)
[04:40] <wilson__> mkv is a contain format isn't it ? maybe its the actual video codec
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> mkv is a container yes. I belive so.
[04:42]  * Crell still is undecided about this whole Dolphin thing...
[04:43] <Tm_T> I dont use it
[04:43] <danny_> i have a desktop with an inter core duo extreme =)
[04:43] <Crell> With some configuration it's not bad, I guess...  But I kinda like tabs in my file manager.
[04:44] <Tm_T> Crell: I kinda like all things in Konqueror
[04:44] <Crell> Oh hell... Why did they bring back the borders?
[04:44] <Crell> Tm_T: Except its Javascript support. :-)
[04:45] <Tm_T> Crell: I like that too
[04:45]  * Crell is a web developer, and the KHTML family of engines is more of a PITA than IE is when it comes to JS.
[04:45] <Tm_T> hahaha
[04:45] <Crell> Tm_T: I mean when maximizing something, you still get a border so the close button doesn't touch the top right corner.
[04:45] <Crell> I suppose it could just be my decorations...
[04:45] <Tm_T> I suppose so too
[04:46] <Tm_T> my windows has 2 px wide borders only
[04:46] <Crell> Hm.  No, it's different on my laptop than desktop, but both are gutsy now.
[04:46] <Tm_T> except titlebar
[04:46] <Tm_T> Crell: screenshot?
[04:47] <Crell> Um.  Sec.
[04:47] <Tm_T> thanks
[04:49] <Crell> http://flickr.com/photos/7591336%40N07/1784753714/
[04:49] <Crell> I'll delete it when we're done. :-)
[04:50] <Tm_T> Crell: IIRC thats up to your settings
[04:50] <Crell> Except the settings are the same on my laptop (this computer), where it does touch the corner.
[04:50] <Tm_T> doublecheck
[04:51] <Tm_T> http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[04:52] <Crell> Good heavens what are you running? :-)
[04:52] <Crell> I don't see corners or settings.
[04:53] <Tm_T> Crell: anyway, I do have same windeco as you are
[04:54] <Tm_T> Crell: my point is, it has much to configure =)
[04:54] <Tm_T> so doublecheck
[04:54] <Crell> I am well aware that KDE is ungodly configurable. :-)  It's figuring out what to configure here that I'm not sure about.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just keep it simple
[04:56] <Crell> Me too.  I even use the default background. :-)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> solid dark blue for me. :)
[04:57] <Tm_T> Crell: I dont even know what are the defaults
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> amazing thing about all these themes.. is how many of them are totally Nasty
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:00] <Crell> 90% of everything is crap. :-)
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> and the otehr 10% is pirated.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:01] <Crell> lol.
[05:01] <Crell> OK, so I have compiz working on the desktop, although it is not 100% stable
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  is it 90% stable?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:01] <Crell> And it looks like there's many options to configure to keep me busy for a while.  say.
[05:01] <Crell> Something like that. :-)
[05:01] <Crell> s/say/sigh.
[05:03] <MilesG> when is kde4 officially released?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> when its done. :)
[05:03] <MilesG> i thought it was end of October
[05:03] <toshiro> hello, anyone tried to change kdm theme on 7.10?
[05:03] <MilesG> Dr_Willis: oic
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> MilesG,  ive heard from oct to jan.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> MilesG,  id rather them wait. then rush it.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> !find kdm
[05:03] <ubot3> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[05:04] <MilesG> Dr_Willis: same, i love kde
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> toshiro,  install those 3 packages. lots of default themes. and the kdm theme tool
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> well kdm is installed by default. :) heh
[05:04] <MilesG> kde4 is gonna kill everyone
[05:04] <toshiro> I mean, it seems that kdm theme is broken
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Is it? ive used it to change my themes
[05:04] <toshiro> I've changed the themes but nothing happens
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Restart the X server.
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-backspace
[05:05] <toshiro> I already did it
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> You are using kdm and not gdm? :)
[05:05] <toshiro> of course I'm using kdm :)
[05:07] <Tm_T> MilesG: before new year (some year)
[05:07] <toshiro> I also manually edited /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc but it didn't work either
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> toshiro, you did do the 'administrator mode' button  on the kdmtheme tool?
[05:08] <toshiro> yes
[05:08] <MilesG> when you recompile the kernel
[05:09] <MilesG> does -j3 mean use both cores?
[05:09] <MilesG> assuming you have them
[05:10] <Crell> What is this "super" key?
[05:10] <Crell> In the compiz configuration manager.
[05:11] <toshiro> do you know where should I report a kubuntu related bug?
[05:11] <Crell> !bug
[05:11] <ubot3> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:12] <toshiro> is there anything like debian bugreport in kubuntu?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  tats the 'windows' key
[05:12] <biovore> toshiro: lunchpad
[05:13] <Crell> Dr_Willis: Ah.  That button has never worked for me for some reason. :-)
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> keyboard settings in xorg.conf i guess. :0
[05:14] <Crell> Most likely, but what?
[05:15] <toshiro> lunchpad? is that the name of the package?
[05:15] <MilesG> i was looking at my xorg.conf file, and i noticed there are some things i can remove, but the question is, should i?
[05:15] <MilesG> is there any benefit to having a nice small xorg.conf file?
[05:15]  * klobster *grumbles* damn broken upgrade...
[05:15] <Crell> I'd expect Xorg in Gutsy to be able to figure out a windows key.  But then, it hasn't reliably figured out the various multimedia buttons, either.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> ive never had an issue with the windows key
[05:16] <cheebz88> ok guys
[05:16] <cheebz88> i've got some problems with my huge font size on the window title bars
[05:17] <cheebz88> i've changed all the sizes down and it's still not doing a damn thing
[05:17] <cheebz88> help?
[05:17] <n8k99> cheebz88: one sec
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> you using compiz?
[05:17] <cheebz88> n8k99: ok
[05:17] <cheebz88> i do think i downloaded that for something
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> if you are using compiz - you need to use the emerald theme thing to set that i belive
[05:18] <Crell> hm.  OK, let's get adventurous.  Compiz on the laptop. :-)
[05:18] <n8k99> otherwise its a setting in system settings> appearance> Fonts
[05:19] <cheebz88> i am running the fluxbox window manager right now though
[05:20] <HomeRoey> http://www.anytimecostumes.com/ecommerce/control/product/~product_id=008001604
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> jwm - the ultimate window manager. :)
[05:20]  * HomeRoey drops a random url.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[05:20] <ubot3> jwm: Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 296 kB
[05:20] <HomeRoey> hey all
[05:20] <HomeRoey> hi Dr_Willis
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> a huge  296K
[05:21] <iecsam> hi -Dr.Willis y is my kopete crashing when i try to connect
[05:21] <cheebz88> exit
[05:21] <Crell> OK... so apparently, I don't know what mouse button it thinks is what. :-)  Is there an easy way to figure that out?  Just see what mouse buttons are which?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> ive heerd that kopete has some 'issues'
[05:22] <MilesG> kopete pwnz me irl
[05:22] <toshiro> to fix the kopete issue upgrade kdelibs
[05:22] <iecsam> in ubuntu its fine
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  try rinning 'xev'
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> running xev
[05:22] <iecsam> kubuntu is having these issues
[05:22] <toshiro> I had the same kopete problem
[05:23] <Crell> Kopete would be great if it fixed its tab handling, issues it's had for, oh, 3 years. :-)
[05:23] <Tm_T> Crell: you mean the issue I was supposed to fix?
[05:24] <Crell> Tm_T: Um, I don't know, were you?
[05:24] <iecsam> crell: y wont i receive any security updates
[05:24] <Tm_T> Crell: yes :(
[05:24] <Crell> iecsam: Um.  I don't know, why won't you receive any security updates? :-)
[05:24] <iecsam> or any updates for that matter
[05:25] <Crell> Tm_T: The two I'm thinking of are Alt+1, Alt+2, etc. switching between tabs, and separating group and individual chats into 2 separate windows with their own saved geometry a la Pigin.
[05:25] <Tm_T> Crell: have you ever detached tab?
[05:26] <Crell> Feature-wise, that's the only think Pigin still has over Kopete.  I still use Kopete for simplicity, though, but I don't know how well that will fly on my laptop.
[05:26] <Crell> I'm sure I have at one point, but not recently.
[05:26] <Tm_T> try and cry
[05:26] <t3ch13> Is it worth trying to get Compiz working with the ATI Mobile Radeon 200?
[05:26] <Crell> lol
[05:26] <Tm_T> and, sorry
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> t3ch13,  i dont think that even has the power to do it.
[05:27] <Crell> I do understand long-standing issues not being fixed.  I'm an OSS PHP developer, we've got a few of our own. :-)
[05:27] <t3ch13> pslos ran it and Vista Aero works with it
[05:27] <Crell> Still, it's annoying when other KDE apps do have it, but Kopete doesn't.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> t3ch13,  i got a x200m.
[05:28] <t3ch13> It doesn't really serve a useful purpose other than showing people and saying look what Linux can do
[05:29] <Crell> t3ch13: Sexy interfaces sell Linux to more people, which means a larger market share, which means more hardware support in the future.  I consider that a useful purpose, even if it's just wasted CPU cycles to me most of the time.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> and means more #$**&@&@ people here.. :) heh heh
[05:30] <Crell> I don't even like OS X, but being able to show off Aqua/Aero-esque effects is good marketing.
[05:30] <kristen> !compiz
[05:30] <Crell> hehe
[05:30] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:30] <t3ch13> Crell I guess I kind of see your point that is the main reason I switched to kubuntu so I could use KDE
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> I cant find many Aero like effects. that are wirth showing off.
[05:31] <t3ch13> People love eye candy
[05:31] <Tm_T> t3ch13: so I'm not people then
[05:31] <t3ch13> I never said that TM_T
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> People tend to be idiots. :)
[05:32] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: remember coc
[05:32] <Crell> Well that's annoying...
[05:32] <Tm_T> t3ch13: you just did
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Heh.. :)
[05:32] <Crell> Moving a window to another desktop makes it vanish. :)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Heck. Just having 2 monitors impressed the window users i know.
[05:32] <t3ch13> I had to learn linux from a command line basis then I could appreciate the gui
[05:33] <Crell> I haven't gotten dual monitor working on Linux. :-(  I love it at work, though.
[05:33] <iecsam> finally figured how to get the updates
[05:33] <NickPresta> Compiz-Fusion is neat to show us and it increases accessibility with some plugins (and some plugins are totally "useless" too). At any rate, "eye-candy" is awesome :)
[05:33] <Crell> Every time I try, my old 15" analog monitor ends up as the primary instead of the 20" digital LCD. :-)
[05:33] <t3ch13> cool iecsam
[05:34] <Crell> brb, need to restart X on the laptop for compiz, it looks like.
[05:34] <Tm_T> NickPresta: ...I disagree but that's the love of Linux, take what you like :)
[05:34] <NickPresta> Tm_T, indeed =D
[05:35] <t3ch13> I just usually show them that I can do wireless and the cool programs availble and that works
[05:35] <Tm_T> I played 2 mins with Beryl back then, got bored, ditched
[05:35] <Tm_T> t3ch13: I dont show, I just do what I usually do and that's enough for them :(
[05:36] <t3ch13> I'm working on a Bachelors in Information Systems Security and my big + is always the cool security tools
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> imagine how many useless plugins will exist in a year..
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:36] <NickPresta> well, I've "converted" a couple of my friends and it was Beryl and package management that sold Kubuntu. They also liked how KDE was infinitely more configurable than Windows...
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> 1000 different ways for a window to vanish when you minimize it!
[05:37] <iobelisk> what command to i have to execute in order to run kde4 once i've installed it?
[05:37] <Crell> hm.  Does compiz not work with a Intel X3000 video chip?
[05:37] <t3ch13> We did a lab with snort and I let them all do the windows way and then I said now watch how easy it is in LInux lol
[05:37] <Tm_T> !kde4 | iobelisk
[05:37] <ubot3> iobelisk: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> NickPresta,  i find too many people spend all day twiddling with the wallpaper and stuff.. and dont want to learn the fundamentals. :)
[05:37] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: I can spend all day to create new wallpapers =)
[05:38] <NickPresta> Dr_Willis, well, it depends. Most people who use computers don't have the patience or knowledge to learn the fundamentals. Of course, that isn't to say there aren't plenty of users who should and do learn the basics and move up and onwards.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> they have the patience to spend all day getting their icons lined up just right.. and the wallpaper set just so... :)
[05:39] <Crell> OK, this is strange.
[05:39] <Nyle> I have kubuntu feisty and when I try to go to kcontrol there are no config options in there
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> but cant be bothered to .... well.. i wont go on. heh
[05:39] <iobelisk> tm_t, thanks but those links really don't tell me how to run the kde4 desktop
[05:39] <Nyle> when I go to the regular system settings application it crashes
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> its amazing the bad habbits people get into when using pc's
[05:39] <Crell> I have 8 desktops, but only 2 show up for compiz desktop switching.  And the second, if I put anything on it, the window vanishes.
[05:39] <Crell> It's also showing apps from desktop 1, when it shouldn't be.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php  tells EXACTLY how to run the kde4 desktop
[05:39] <Tm_T> iobelisk: also, its beta
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  you make a new kde4.desktop   entry for it. with some commands  it runs. :)
[05:40] <t3ch13> Crell you have to let compiz handle the desktops
[05:40] <Crell> hm.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> i second whatg t3ch13  is saying.
[05:40] <iobelisk> Dr._Willis, when i create a new session, i am not sure what command to put under "exec"?
[05:40] <Crell> So the various move to desktop commands will all fail, except for compiz's fancy schmancy ones?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> reread that site again. iobelisk  the part where it says
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop,
[05:41] <t3ch13> In CompizConfig Settings Manager in general options is the settings you need
[05:41] <iobelisk> Dr_Willis, there is no kde.desktop under /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions for me so it gives me a file not found
[05:41] <Nyle> I have kubuntu feisty and when I try to go to kcontrol there are no config options in there.  Systems Settings (the new controls) crashes
[05:41] <Nyle> I have kde 3.5.6
[05:41] <Dr_Willis>  try updateing the locate database and use 'locate kde4.desktop' i guess
[05:41] <Nyle> I have kde 3.5.8
[05:42] <t3ch13> I have KDE 3.5.8
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> it sould run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde  is my guess. if that path is right. :)
[05:42] <Nyle> help
[05:43] <t3ch13> Well I'm tired and it's late later all
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> im using jwm :)
[05:43] <Crell> Oh, I think I get it.
[05:44] <Crell> compiz's fancy "desktop" switching is only WITHIN a given X desktop, but compiz can have multiple of its OWN compiz "desktops" within one X desktop.
[05:44] <Crell> That's AFU. :-)
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[05:44] <kyuubi> a
[05:45] <Dr_Willis>  compwiz's desktop switching is instead of kde's virtual desktops.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Then again - i jsut set up 2 desktops and leave it at that. :)
[05:45] <Crell> Dr_Willis: Right, that's what I'm saying/seeing.
[05:45] <Crell> I'm used to having 4 in KDE.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> gotta love 2 widescreen monitors.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis>  i dont need 4 any more
[05:45] <Crell> But 4 in KDE + compiz == weird.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> If you want 4 with compiz - you set them up in the genral tab of the ccsm tool
[05:46] <Crell> Right, that's where I am now.
[05:46] <Crell> I'm toying with settings. :-)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> some of the compiz settings look ugly with twinview/dual moniotrs
[05:46] <Crell> I think I need to disable the KDE pager, though, as it's based on the KDE desktops, not compiz desktops.
[05:47] <iobelisk> Dr_Willis, I am actually running gnome, so do you think i need to also install the kdebase package for kde4base to work?
[05:47]  * Crell hopes they integrate this stuff into KDE directly soon.  KDE 4.0 has its own thing I understand, though...
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  yep - the compiz+kde intefration is a bit rough
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  no idea there.. I would  think it may be a good idea. you can run kde and test out specific kde4 apps. Or try the whole kde4 desktop
[05:48] <Crell> All the indy fun stuff targets Gnome only, and then KDE does their own thing.  Quite annoying. :-(
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Go play with Enlightment then. :)
[05:48] <iobelisk> dr_willis, i have installed only kde4base-dev at the moment, is there anything else i need to get in order to get kde4 running? i'd like to create a whole diff session for kde4 and check it out from there
[05:48] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: nooo, WindowMaker!
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  from what i read of that guide thats how its doable
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  but ive not messed with kde4 other then on live cd's to test it
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> much safer that way. :)
[05:50] <iobelisk> dr_willis, yes, but that guide is for kubuntu, so i assume that some other kde base packages are probably needed to run kde4? the live cd idea is good though, all i want to do is check kde4 out, i'm getting a little impatient waiting for december ;)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> i hear a lotof the kde4 apps work nicely under kde3. but the whole'desktop' is still a bit rough.
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> but I have plenty of patience
[05:51] <Crell> OK, the paint fire on screen plugin is way cool, and way useless. :-)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  you draw on the screen 'Dont Touch me' To scare the kids
[05:51] <Crell> lol
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Use the tidal wave thing!
[05:52] <Crell> I can see it as useful for Halloween.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> wiggly windows makes my wife sick to her stomach.
[05:52] <Crell> hehe
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> if i miniumize a window.. do i 'really' need a fancy animation to show that it did what i told it to do? :)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Now the ADHD setting is a bit more usefull. Dim out the distracting Non-activated windows
[05:53] <Crell> Yeah, wobblywindows is one of those things that I'd enable when showing off Linux at an install fest, and otherwise never use.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> not sure if that show miniwindows on the panel - works with kde or not. I use it under gnome - thats handy
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> The Invert feature is nice some times also.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> and the zoom :)
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> well its late here.. and time for bed. Night all.
[05:55]  * Crell may just wait until KDE 4, and let the KDE team do the integration.
[05:57] <Crell> Hm.  OK, that's the issue.
[05:57] <Crell> The cube effects are all based on a WIDE desktop, not MULTIPLE desktops.
[06:01] <eljefe> has anyones system been acting slow 24h+ after turning on Strigi search daemon?
[06:01] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i can never get Compiz to work it makes me wanna cry
[06:01] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> cause compiz would make my computer look so much better
[06:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eljefe: i think you should uninstall strigi
[06:03] <eljefe> just tonight it took my (decently fast) machine almost 2 min to recognize a cd-r
[06:03] <eljefe> not sure if its related or not
[06:03] <eljefe> uninstall it why? is it really that bad?
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eljefe: i uninstalled it to make my computer go faster
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eljefe: do you have and widgets running from super karamba
[06:04] <eljefe> aiight, done
[06:04] <eljefe> no, i used to but it gets to be too much
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok
[06:04] <eljefe> although, its probably better these days
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> not really
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> its still buggy
[06:05] <eljefe> heh
[06:06] <MilesG> hey man, conky is all you need
[06:07] <MilesG> in life
[06:07] <MilesG> as long as i know my cpu% is only 2%, im alright
[06:07] <Tm_T> MilesG: plus bunch of scripts
[06:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody know why i have to keep putting in my DNS servers for my ethernet adaptor it always reverts back to 192.168.1.1
[06:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i saqve it for good
[06:08] <Tm_T> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[06:09] <Crell> I need to sleep.  Thanks folks.
[06:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Tm_T: thats really complicated
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hello?
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Tm_T: i just made my internet static
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hello?
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Tm_T: i just made my internet static
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> so do i need to do that anymore
[06:14] <Tm_T> no?
[06:19] <Insanity^> nerds in the house.
[06:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> lol
[06:27] <kalifornia909> can anyone help me. my dvd decrypter wont recognize my dvd rom
[06:38] <Jess``> Hi all, i have a really simple question... I have 7.10 now, started with regular ubuntu then installed kubuntu-desktop.  When in a kde session, where do I find the "enable 3d effects" (similar to Gnome's System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> /Effects tab/)?  Thanks
[06:39] <Tm_T> !compiz | Jess``
[06:39] <ubot3> Jess``: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:39] <Jess``> Tm_T: so even if I have compiz installed while under gnome, i still need extra stuff for kde?
[06:39] <Tm_T> no idea
[06:39] <Tm_T> I dont use it myself
[06:40] <bazhang> Jess``: I believe you do.
[06:40] <Jess``> alrighty, thanks :)
[06:41] <bazhang> Jess``: compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde emerald
[06:44] <Jess``> turns out i was missing libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig and compiz-kde (the rest were installed from gnome/ubuntu).  Thanks for the help :)
[06:44] <bazhang> Jess``: once you have those installed (sudo apt-get install), then hit the alt +F2 keys and then type in the box compiz --replace, then once agaIn with alt +F2 and emerald --replace
[06:46] <bazhang> Jess``: be sure to then go to the settings <advanced desktop effects settings (in Kmenu) and choose window decorations (located near the bottom of the choices).
[06:46] <bazhang> err check windows decorations, not choose...oops.
[06:51] <Jess``> mm looks neat, thanks bazhang :)
[06:52] <bazhang> Jess``: my pleasure! Hope you have fun with it--scale is especially nice. Similar to the expose effect in Mac.
[06:57] <peter_> hej
[06:58] <clor0x> jeh
[06:59] <PolitikerNEU> Does anyone know how to lower the speed of Graphic chips under kubuntu (nvidia)?
[06:59] <vzduch> why, do you have insufficient cooling? =D
[07:00] <PolitikerNEU> no, but I want to save energy ... my notebook only lasts 1:30 hours at the moment
[07:01] <kalifornia909> i wonder why compiz does not detect my xgl
[07:04] <PolitikerNEU> I've found a tool to overclock my chip ... I'll try to find out if it allows me to step it down too
[07:15] <MilesG> !hi | Daisuke-Ido
[07:15] <ubot3> Daisuke-Ido: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:17] <booom> hi all
[07:17] <booom> who speak russia? )
[07:18] <pag> !ru | booom
[07:18] <ubot3> booom: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:20] <barbaros> !tr|boom
[07:20] <ubot3> boom: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[07:20] <Tm_T> booom: please change your username and realname
[07:23] <Tm_T> booom: please?
[07:24] <booom> what?
[07:24] <Tm_T> 0920 < Tm_T> booom: please change your username and realname
[07:24] <booom> i'm don't speak english
[07:24] <Tm_T> booom: you still know what I'm asking
[07:25] <Tm_T> booom: if not, then I'm asking you to leave
[07:25] <booom> ????
[07:25] <booom> I'm from Russia
[07:25] <Tm_T> yes
[07:25] <newsense07> !ru
[07:25] <ubot3> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:26] <booom> !ru
[07:30] <vzduch> I guess he was either on Windoze or on drugs..
[07:30] <vzduch> or both :D
[07:31] <Tm_T> vzduch: not funny
[07:32] <jay> Does anyone know if gDesklet will work with a 64-bit kubuntu?
[07:41] <jbrouhard> Anyone know of a application that monitors CPU temp ?
[07:42] <vzduch> lmsensors
[07:42] <vzduch> won't alarm you on its own though
[07:42] <vzduch> but you could run it as a cronjob that alarms you if some values are off the scale too much for your taste
[07:42] <eagles0513875> what can i run to scan an ntfs partition
[07:43] <vzduch> eagles0513875: define 'scan'
[07:43] <eagles0513875> the chkdsk equivalent
[07:43] <eagles0513875> i cant scan it in windows cuz i only have linux on here
[07:43] <vzduch> why on earth do you have a NTFS partition then?
[07:44] <eagles0513875> i had windows on here but it finally pissed me off to the point where iwoudl rather use linux for good now
[07:44] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:44] <hellhound> is there a way to keep mplayer from opening a new instance each time I launch a video?  I would like for it to stop the current video and run the selected one
[07:45] <jbrouhard> hey wati a min.. why is my adept updater saying us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates ?
[07:45] <muchanic> hellhound: directly, I doubt it, but you could write a shell script to use as a launcher that kills any existing process before launching mplayer
[07:46] <eagles0513875> vzduch: isnt there something i can run to scan it
[07:47] <vzduch> if you find something tell me :D
[07:47] <helloyo> would it be hard to setup ssh so i could access my girlfriends computer (shorter commands needed). she is behind a router
[07:48] <vzduch> problem #1: the router.. you'd have to open a port for that
[07:48] <vzduch> s/open/forward/
[07:48] <GS3User007_> you're probably want to set her up on a static ip if she isn't already
[07:48] <DeadJones> anyone know how to customize (add stuff to) the 'system menu' on kicker?
[07:49] <eagles0513875> vzduch: there is somethign im trying to remember the name im searching through adept atm
[07:50] <vzduch> no idea if ntfsprogs contains something useful here
[07:50] <jbrouhard> Okay someone explain to me why, after a clean install of Gutsy Gibbon DVD, i have sources.list that show dapper for the main repos ?
[07:51] <helloyo> GS3User007_, vzduch: so just fiddle with the router settings?
[07:52] <GS3User007_> helloyo: have you ever set up port forwarding on a router?
[07:53] <helloyo> GS3User007_: no i haven't, i don't have access to my router, i do with hers though
[07:54] <GS3User007_> helloyo: having never set up ssh, i can't say for certain if that'll be an issue or not. what sort of router is it? linksys, dlink, or something else?
[07:54] <Linusx> Earlier there was discussion of kwin-baghira.  Is that useful on older iMacs? (g3 AIO 333 mhz) with dapper?
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[07:54] <GS3User007_> hello
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Is the BadRAM patch included in Gutsy's kernel?
[07:56] <helloyo> GS3User007: i think its a netgear
[07:56] <GS3User007> helloyo: well figure out which ports need to be opened, google around and figure out how to forward any necessary ports on her router
[07:56] <helloyo> GS3User007: will do, thanks
[07:57] <GS3User007> helloyo: np]
[07:57] <vzduch> GS3User007: as for the 'how to' part there's always the router's user manual ;)
[07:58] <GS3User007> vzduch: true, but how many folks keep that sort of thing around?
[07:58] <ubuntu> yes i need help
[07:58] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to get cool desktop effects
[07:58] <ubuntu> which is the best effects
[07:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ubuntu: oh my god
[07:58] <vzduch> define 'cool desktop effects'
[07:58] <vzduch> these meta-questions..
[07:58] <ubuntu> which is better compiz
[07:59] <ubuntu> or?
[07:59] <ubuntu> sorry im new
[07:59] <vzduch> I'm tempted to say: try 'em all & decide for yourself
[07:59] <vzduch> that's what live CDs are for :)
[08:00] <ubuntu> im tempted to say thanks alot lol
[08:00] <ubuntu> ive got 7.04 on my hdd drive
[08:00] <ubuntu> im testing 7.10
[08:00] <ubuntu> lol
[08:00] <ubuntu> thanks
[08:00] <eagles0513875> vzduch: found a program that works to scan ntfs partitions
[08:00] <eagles0513875> vzduch: readup on ntfsprogs
[08:01] <eagles0513875> vzduch: i also seem to haave rw access
[08:02] <vzduch> if you have ntfs-3g you should :)
[08:02] <vzduch> moin blizzzek
[08:02] <eagles0513875> thing is
[08:02] <eagles0513875> this is an external drive
[08:03] <eagles0513875> i had to disable mount as a user on the drive for it to work right other wise i get an error
[08:03] <vzduch> external or not is the same as long as you're not talking to it via a network protocol
[08:03] <eagles0513875> only via usb lol
[08:03] <blizzzek> hi vzduch
[08:05] <eagles0513875> thats weird restarting my laptop seemed to have fixed the issue of me trying to stream audio in amarok saying cant find demux
[08:07] <scott_> wow, this is a busy channel
[08:07] <GS3User007> scott_: i'd say crowded, but not terribly busy
[08:08] <scott_> fair enough
[08:08] <scott_> I've only ever been to the Ubuntu channels on Freenode
[08:08] <scott_> this runs fairly smooth on a VM with 128MB of RAM
[08:09] <GS3User007> scott_: yeah, i'm VMing kubuntu too... gave it 512 though
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> eagles0513875: Maybe it's an AAC stream and you have to start it at the right time, when it's sending header data. Happens to me on idobi radio sometimes, if you just retry it will finally work
[08:10]  * vzduch is VM'ing Windoze
[08:10] <vzduch> probably not too useful for the purpose I had in mind on my machine, but fair enough for some other things
[08:11] <GS3User007> what purpose did you have in mind?
[08:11] <eagles0513875> vzduch: if i had a desktop i woudl probably be vming windows or duel booting
[08:11] <vzduch> GS3User007: streaming audio w/ SAM Broadcaster
[08:12] <GS3User007> ah
[08:12] <vzduch> but playing alone produces 70% CPU usage on the host
[08:12] <tester201>  I"m having problems with my Nvidia card on gusty. I've enabled the restricted drivers and rebooted, but I still can't run GL screensavers
[08:12] <vzduch> so there's no room for streaming any more, I guess
[08:13] <GS3User007> time for a faster cpu i suppose... i'm overdue for an upgrade myself actually
[08:13] <scott_> Can I run KDE4 on this thing?
[08:13] <eagles0513875> i love the 4 desktops i have
[08:13] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:13] <eagles0513875> only problem is im in europe and they r back in us
[08:13]  * vzduch just upgraded a couple weeks ago.. running an Athlon XP 2400+ on an Abit KT7-RAID
[08:14] <eagles0513875> nice
[08:14] <eagles0513875> i wish i had my machiens here i really wanna setup a cluster
[08:14] <eagles0513875> and maybe develop some cluster pkgs
[08:14] <vzduch> eagles0513875: better get a power supply that enables you to switch mains power between 110 V and 230 V
[08:15] <tester201> !nvidia
[08:15] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <eagles0513875> vzduch: all desktop power supplies allow u to do that lol
[08:15] <scott_> !kde4
[08:15] <ubot3> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[08:15] <eagles0513875> take a look at the back of ur desktop machine i bet u there is a lil red button that allows u to switch the voltage lol
[08:16] <vzduch> eagles0513875: then pack any or all in the mail and have it sent over ;)
[08:16] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:17] <eagles0513875> ur right i should but the shipping is goign to eb a pain
[08:17] <vzduch> you mean the shipping fees..
[08:17] <eagles0513875> ya
[08:22] <eagles0513875> anyway
[08:22] <eagles0513875> this is goignt o be fun re encoding 12gb of music lol
[08:23] <vzduch> if the source material is already in a lossy format you should scrap that..
[08:23] <vzduch> can only result in poorer quality
[08:24] <eagles0513875> it wasnt in a lossy format
[08:24] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: FLAC?
[08:24] <posingaspopular> in soundkonvertor, yo can drag/drop the giles you want to do
[08:25] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: they were in wave
[08:25] <posingaspopular> but you might be better off writing a shell script to do it for you
[08:25] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: i know but its goign to be a pain to do 12gb of it
[08:25] <posingaspopular> shell script
[08:25] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: now they r in wma cuz i had winblows
[08:25] <vzduch> posingaspopular: shell script?
[08:25] <eagles0513875> now no more winblows
[08:25] <vzduch> posingaspopular: all encoders have batch mode
[08:25] <posingaspopular> true
[08:25] <vzduch> e.g. 'oggenc -q 6 *.wav'
[08:26] <posingaspopular> but you would it be slower to do it in an encoder?
[08:26] <vzduch> why?
[08:26] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: yea all my files had to be converted.... 30 gigs
[08:26] <posingaspopular> i think it took me like a week
[08:26] <eagles0513875> ouch
[08:26] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:27] <eagles0513875> i do it as i am workign a few at a time lol
[08:27] <eagles0513875> right now i have my poor comp working ovr time to get everythign off my external drive
[08:27] <vzduch> eagles0513875: wma is craptastic in itself.. and still it's better to leave them as-is than to re-convert them into something else (if not WAV or FLAC)
[08:28] <eagles0513875> vzduch: im goign to be converting them into flac
[08:28] <eagles0513875> with wave do u get the same bitrates as in flac
[08:29] <vzduch> WAV == 1,411 kbps, FLAC == variable, ranging from <200 to >1,100 depending on the music.. average tends to be just under 1,000
[08:29] <eagles0513875> which do u prefer
[08:30] <vzduch> for interoperability WAV is best, for storage I'd prefer a lossy codec as it results in smaller files
[08:30] <vzduch> thus I'd suggest leaving the WMAs as they are
[08:31] <blizzzek> nixternal: i saw you blog entry about the request on kubuntu users und opened the wiki site right now. what i am wondering is, that katapult is in the list... erm, it is installed and launched by default
[08:31] <eagles0513875> im goign to go ahead and convert them to wav as i listen to the music quite often
[08:31] <vzduch> using w32codecs or the like it's no problem playing them in Linux
[08:31] <eagles0513875> i know
[08:31] <eagles0513875> but i would prefer to use open source stuff lol
[08:32] <Jucato> blizzzek: he's asleep right now. but probably the answer to that would be: not everyone knows about katapult, that it's installed and enabled by default, or how to use it
[08:32] <vzduch> WAV in itself is not particularly open-source
[08:32] <posingaspopular> blizzzek: it is in kubuntu, but there were talks about removing it before gutsy, or at least thats what nixternal told me. i sent him a msg about that tonigh too, just to make sure that katapult is still included in the next releases
[08:32] <eagles0513875> i have no idea how to use it
[08:32] <eagles0513875> vzduch: is flac
[08:32] <vzduch> the specs are known, but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's open source
[08:32] <vzduch> FLAC is
[08:32] <Jucato> hi posingaspopular
[08:32] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: alt+spacebar+program/file name
[08:32] <posingaspopular> Jucato! hugs!
[08:32] <Jucato> :)
[08:32] <posingaspopular> it's 3 30 am
[08:33] <eagles0513875> ty posingaspopulari just learned somethign new
[08:33] <Jucato> posingaspopular: yeah I was wondering what you're doing up so late
[08:33] <eagles0513875> :)
[08:33]  * posingaspopular has been reading ubuntu logs and ML's and setting up the agenda for the next meeting
[08:33] <eagles0513875> what is the au format
[08:33] <vzduch> perhaps WAV is something like public domain, I don't know
[08:33] <blizzzek> well, it took me a long time to find out about katapult.. and other people i talked to about it as well. but they are all enthusiastic about it ;)
[08:33] <vzduch> AU is Sun's lossless audio format
[08:33] <vzduch> uncompressed
[08:33] <eagles0513875> i just tried it its quite kool
[08:33] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i sent a few memberd pings about questions/stuff i wanted answered... still waiting back
[08:33] <posingaspopular> katapult rules
[08:33] <eagles0513875> vzduch: so the file sizes goign ot be bigger than flac or wav
[08:34] <Jucato> eagles0513875: Katapult is a launcher, it can launch programs (that are in the K Menu), documents (you have to specify the path starting from ~ though), items from your amarok collections, bookmarks (konqueror and firefox), calculator, execute commands, browse google
[08:34] <Jucato> er.. search google I mean
[08:34] <vzduch> WAV is uncompressed as well.. I guess WAV and AU would be about the same size
[08:34] <eagles0513875> kool i just tried it to open sound konverter and it worked thats bitter sweet
[08:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:34] <Jucato> posingaspopular: in a few hours probably. he just went to bed 2 hours ago I think
[08:35] <posingaspopular> yea I have a skateboarding jam in 8 hours... friends to meet, sponsors to talk to etc.
[08:35] <eagles0513875> im goign to have a real headache getting mylaptop on the wireless at school
[08:35] <danny_> i need help my kubuntu 7.04 when i go into adept and try to upgrade to 7.10 it wont let me hit full upgrade....
[08:35] <Jucato> posingaspopular: heheh go to bed!!
[08:35]  * Jucato is going to take a nap too....
[08:35] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i got home at 1:30, so he must have knocked out right before i got there
[08:35] <posingaspopular> danny_: whats the error?
[08:36] <danny_> im trying to upgrade to 7.10
[08:36] <danny_> kubuntu 7.10 and it wont let me hit full upgrade
[08:36] <vzduch> danny_: that's not the correct answer
[08:36] <vzduch> 'cause you already said that
[08:36] <Kred> Hi
[08:36] <eagles0513875> hey Kred
[08:36] <posingaspopular> danny_: it's easier to upgrade via command line
[08:36] <danny_> hang on
[08:37] <danny_> ok
[08:37] <posingaspopular> !hi | vzduch
[08:37] <ubot3> vzduch: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:37] <Kred> I just installed Adobe Flash player and video works but I get no sound. I've been trying to search forums for this but..
[08:37] <danny_> whats the code?
[08:37] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: doesnt he need to update his source list
[08:37] <posingaspopular> danny_: sudo apt-get updates && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:37] <posingaspopular> is what i usually do
[08:37] <Kred> I do have sound working for Amarok for example
[08:38] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: he could edit his sources.list but ive never had any problem doing it via CL with those two commands
[08:38] <posingaspopular> Kred: how did you install flash
[08:38] <danny_> E: Invalid operation updates
[08:38] <posingaspopular> update*
[08:38] <posingaspopular> sorry, that was my error
[08:38] <posingaspopular> no *, just correcting my typo
[08:39] <Kred> posingaspopular: opened up Firefox and clicked "missing plugin". Tried there first to get sound there, then went to Konqueror and searched for plugins..
[08:39] <Kred> posingaspopular: the problem was that I had no Flash player at all.
[08:39] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: if u dont have the right repos in the source list wont it just find no pkgs to upgrade
[08:39] <eagles0513875> cuz thats what it did for me
[08:40] <vzduch> Kred: wrong method.. --> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:40] <eagles0513875> speaking of source list lol i found an error with source omatic
[08:40] <Tm_T> !fi Kred
[08:40] <ubot3> Factoid fi kred not found
[08:40] <Tm_T> aaagh
[08:40] <Tm_T> !fi | Kred
[08:40] <ubot3> Kred: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[08:40] <eagles0513875> if i found an error with the generated source list do i just email the guy in charge
[08:41] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[08:41] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:41] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: hmmm i duno, because ive never edited no source list and never had any problems upgrading or updating
[08:41] <posingaspopular> danny_: did that work?
[08:41] <danny_> its working
[08:41] <Kred> vzduch: ok, trying that :)
[08:42] <Tm_T> Kred: you perhaps like to install kubuntu-restricted-extras too
[08:42] <posingaspopular> good. if you have any troubles, msg Jucato, he's very good at kubuntu.im going to bed soon
[08:43] <viktor_> is there limewire
[08:43] <vzduch> viktor_: try gtk-gnutella
[08:44] <n3kubuntu> great
[08:44] <n3kubuntu> therer we go
[08:44] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:44] <posingaspopular> viktor_: limewire? for ubuntu?
[08:44] <posingaspopular> there is frostwire
[08:45] <eagles0513875> yesterday was my first successful distupgrade from a previous version without having to download the iso lol
[08:45] <eagles0513875> and do a fresh install
[08:45] <Kred> Ok I installed flashplugin-nonfree but it still doesn't work, the sound I mean. Hmm.. could the wrong install method have confused the system somehow?
[08:45] <Tm_T> Kred: nope
[08:45] <Tm_T> Kred: mind to join #ubuntu-fi ?
[08:46] <Kred> Not at all if that gets me the solution :)
[08:46] <Tm_T> heh, hope so
[08:46] <viktor_> what effect is it if i put my mouse pointer on a window behind the one in use the window goes trasnperent where can i find this option in compiz
[08:47] <vzduch> going to speak a language no one understands ;)
[08:47] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:48] <eagles0513875> try speaking and hearing maltese lol
[08:48] <eagles0513875> i can understand it but cant speak it lol
[08:48] <vzduch> I've once read Maltese.. it's woven through w/ words of Italian origin
[08:48] <eagles0513875> vzduch: lol maltese has alot of arabic words lol
[08:48] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[08:48] <ubot3> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:48] <eagles0513875> llol
[08:48] <vzduch> well, it's a Semitic language
[08:48] <eagles0513875> sry Tm_T
[08:49] <Tm_T> !lol
[08:49] <ubot3> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:49] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: np
[08:49] <eagles0513875> sry again Tm_T
[08:50] <vzduch> hoi Kite_DH + llutz
[08:50] <gdkarout_> hi
[08:50] <emonkey> vzduch, wrong channel ? ツ
[08:50] <vzduch> emonkey: no :)
[08:51] <emonkey> hmk
[08:52] <eagles0513875> this is just a random question what would someone do if they wanted to downgrade
[08:53] <eagles0513875> is taht quite easy to do or would require a clean install
[08:53] <vzduch> reinstall, I suppose
[08:53] <Tm_T> yes
[08:53] <vzduch> of course you can try to change the sources.list and perform a dist-upgrade.. but I doubt that the result would be desireable
[08:55] <vzduch> gotta go for some smokes, brb
[08:55] <eagles0513875> what do i need to download to make amarok play flac files
[08:55] <viktor_> is there i site to go to get a list of apps u can isntall with the sudu apt-get etc
[08:55] <gdkarout_> hi, I have partitioned my disk in 4 primary partitions and I want to make more partitions through linux so I could mount there the /usr /tmp. Is that possible? and how?
[08:56] <eagles0513875> viktor_: u can install any app as long as its in the repos
[08:56] <posingaspopular> the command is 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' correct? i didnt get kicked in the head?
[08:56] <viktor_> how do i look at repo's whats that
[08:56] <eagles0513875> repositories
[08:56] <vzduch> Amarok should play FLAC ootb
[08:56] <viktor_> where do i find that
[08:56] <eagles0513875> wel for some reason mine isnt
[08:56] <eagles0513875> viktor what r u trying to look for
[08:56] <viktor_> just wanan see hole list of things that i can install like programs etc i might need
[08:57] <viktor_> just wanna browse
[08:57] <eagles0513875> then u might wanna open up adept and look in there then close it go to the command line and type in sudo apt-get instll then the name of the pkg
[08:58] <viktor_> yer but is there a site to veiw packages
[08:58] <eagles0513875> ohhh
[08:58] <eagles0513875> there is but i dotn remember the address
[08:58] <eagles0513875> let me find it
[08:58] <viktor_> okai thank you so much
[09:00] <eagles0513875> viktor_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:00] <eagles0513875> is hardy the name of the next release
[09:00] <viktor_> oh ur the king thanks so much
[09:01] <viktor_> how do chek what kde im using like version
[09:01] <hara> hello. anyone here use the GATOS driver for ati cards?
[09:03] <viktor_> how do chek what kde im using like version
[09:03] <eagles0513875> viktor_: click on help then at bottom it says about kde
[09:04] <eagles0513875> im having a problem with sound konverter
[09:04] <eagles0513875> its not decoding and then reenxoding
[09:05] <eagles0513875> !w32codecs
[09:05] <ubot3> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:05] <eagles0513875> !codecs
[09:05] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:05] <posingaspopular> Jucato: ping...
[09:05] <Kred> flashplugin-nonfree installed working picture but no sound. Any idea what could be wrong?
[09:05] <eagles0513875> Kred: have u checked the mixer
[09:06] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: any idea why soundkonverter is not decoding or encoding my audio
[09:06] <Kred> eagles0513875: I've taken a look at it but have no idea what setting could make audio work for Flash, since audio is working with Amarok.
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> kred
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> try doing this
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> click you volume ico
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> icon
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> click mixer
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> click settings tab
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> click configure kmix
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> and check box volume type: absolute
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> volume values:
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> absolute
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> now try
[09:08] <Kred> Done
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> try
[09:09] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: whats the error
[09:09] <posingaspopular> because it used to not work in feisty, but works perfectly in gutsy for me
[09:09] <n3kubuntu> did it work kred
[09:09] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: no error the output file ends up 0b
[09:10] <n3kubuntu> kred
[09:10] <Kred> n3kubuntu: no
[09:10] <n3kubuntu> ?
[09:10] <n3kubuntu> ok
[09:10] <posingaspopular> .... hmm
[09:10] <posingaspopular> Kred: is it alsamixer by any chance?
[09:10] <eagles0513875> what is the name of the w32codecs pkg
[09:11] <n3kubuntu> kred did you click apply or ok
[09:11] <Kred> posingaspopular: how do I know that?
[09:11] <Kred> n3kubuntu: yes.
[09:11] <Kred> Please remember that I do have working sound with Amarok
[09:11] <Kred> The problem is with Flash, both in Konqueror and Firefox
[09:12] <posingaspopular> ah flash...
[09:12] <posingaspopular> i duno, because i dont use itmuch, if ever
[09:12] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: whats the w32codecs pkg name
[09:12] <posingaspopular> !win32
[09:12] <ubot3> Factoid win32 not found
[09:13] <posingaspopular> !codecs
[09:13] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:13] <posingaspopular> i dont know the actual name, but ubotu does...
[09:14] <eagles0513875> !w32codecs
[09:14] <ubot3> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:14] <Kred> Could my sound problem be a problem with codecs? Or could I totally be missing some codec?
[09:14] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: that doesnt tell me much
[09:15] <posingaspopular> yea i duno, like i said, i dont use it much
[09:16] <vzduch> !info w32codecs
[09:16] <ubot3> Package w32codecs does not exist in gutsy
[09:16] <vzduch> !info w32codec
[09:16] <ubot3> Package w32codec does not exist in gutsy
[09:16] <eagles0513875> then i have a problem
[09:16] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:17] <eagles0513875> sry bout that
[09:17] <vzduch> seems it was different.. or Medibuntu pkgs are not covered by the bot
[09:17] <eagles0513875> brb need to restart x really quickly
[09:17] <n4kubuntu> ok
[09:18] <n4kubuntu> ok
[09:18] <vagelisks> goodmorning
[09:18] <posingaspopular> so danny/n3kbuntu/n4kubuntu is trying to so a distupgrade and having a problem with some packages. here is the CL output. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42442/ i need bed. it's 430 am
[09:18] <vagelisks> how are you today?
[09:18] <eagles0513875> im back guys
[09:18] <posingaspopular> plz help guys, im too tired to think
[09:18] <posingaspopular> <-bed
[09:18] <JackPhil> I can't open mht file with konqueror
[09:19] <vagelisks> hello from greece
[09:19] <posingaspopular> n4kubuntu: gl
[09:19] <n4kubuntu> kk
[09:19] <eagles0513875> what codecs can i use since w32codecs isnt available in gutsy cuz im having trouble with sound converter
[09:19] <vzduch> !medibuntu | eagles0513875
[09:19] <ubot3> eagles0513875: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:19] <vagelisks> may i ask you something about irc servers?
[09:19] <vzduch> !ask | vagelisks
[09:19] <ubot3> vagelisks: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:19] <vagelisks> lol
[09:19] <vagelisks> ok
[09:20] <eagles0513875> what other audio conversion software is there
[09:20] <vagelisks> how i get the list of the availble servers?
[09:20] <n4kubuntu> can anbody help me ? im trying to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 and this code pops up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42442/
[09:20] <vzduch> vagelisks: what servers?
[09:21] <vagelisks> xm...
[09:21] <vagelisks> now ia ma connected to the ubuntu server
[09:21] <vagelisks> i want to connect to a greek server
[09:21] <eagles0513875> brb need to restart my machine
[09:21] <vagelisks> so i want to find the greek servers
[09:22] <vzduch> !aptfix | n4kubuntu
[09:22] <ubot3> n4kubuntu: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:22] <kubuntu-nioubs> hi
[09:22] <vzduch> vagelisks: s/server/channel/
[09:22] <vagelisks> hi kubuntu-nioubs
[09:22] <vzduch> !gr | vagelisks
[09:22] <vagelisks> thanks
[09:22] <ubot3> vagelisks: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[09:23] <Linux_Galore_> Eagle_101: you need to add medibuntu repo's
[09:23] <hani> Hi I need add package .deb to adept
[09:23] <vzduch> hani: what pkg?
[09:24] <viktor_> i need the new jre ??
[09:24] <hani> vzduch: many .deb
[09:24] <kubuntu-nioubs> please how can I have the thumbnails for video (in dapper) ?
[09:25] <hani> vzduch: stardict and aptoncd and quanta and ...
[09:25] <vzduch> hani: should all be in the repos
[09:25] <vzduch> !sources | hani
[09:25] <ubot3> hani: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:28] <viktor_> i need help with a JRE update please
[09:30] <Linux_Galore_> there is also an app called kubextra that adds all the extra repos and sets up the codecs and java/flas etc
[09:30] <Linux_Galore_> flash*
[09:31] <hani> thanks ubot3, vzduch
[09:31] <vzduch> !upgrade | k5ubuntu
[09:31] <ubot3> k5ubuntu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:31] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore_: what other audio converters r there besides soundkonverter
[09:31] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: mplayer can transcode audio
[09:32] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore_: from wma to flac
[09:32] <kubuntu-nioubs> someone please?
[09:32] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: yep, as long as you have the codecs
[09:32] <kubuntu-nioubs> please how can I have the thumbnails for video (in dapper) ?
[09:32] <eagles0513875> u mean the wma codecs
[09:33] <Kred> Yea hi again :)
[09:33] <eagles0513875> !mediubuntu
[09:33] <ubot3> Factoid mediubuntu not found
[09:33] <eagles0513875> !medibuntu
[09:33] <ubot3> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:33] <Kred> I found out that I get "Unknown PCM default" when runing Konqueror from console and accessing Flash
[09:34] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: yes install the win32 codecs
[09:34] <k5ubuntu> i need help unlocking my konsole
[09:34] <eagles0513875> !win32codecs
[09:34] <ubot3> Factoid win32codecs not found
[09:34] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore_: since im running the 64bit version dont i need the 64bit version
[09:34] <Linux_Galore_> !medibuntu
[09:34] <ubot3> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:35] <eagles0513875> just did that lol
[09:35] <k5ubuntu> i need help unlocking my konsole
[09:35] <k5ubuntu> any help.......
[09:35] <vzduch> eagles0513875: the pkg name is w32codecs
[09:35] <eagles0513875> how did u lock it
[09:35] <k5ubuntu> i dont know
[09:35] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: I avoid the 64 bit version because allot of stuff still hasnt been moved over
[09:35] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore_: ahhh ok
[09:36] <vzduch> k5ubuntu: if all else fails you can still try a reboot
[09:36] <k5ubuntu> ok
[09:36] <k5ubuntu> ill reboot
[09:36] <barsch> servus
[09:36] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore_: i have the repository for medibuntu but it cant find the w32codecs
[09:37] <vzduch> eagles0513875: did you apt-get update yet?
[09:37] <eagles0513875> ya
[09:37] <eagles0513875> vzduch: when i did it the first time it seemed to ignore the repo
[09:37] <vzduch> eagles0513875: pastebin your sources.list please
[09:37] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: search for medibunt
[09:38] <eagles0513875> ok holf on
[09:38] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: should be a whole pile of stuff
[09:38] <eagles0513875> where is the source.list found
[09:38] <vzduch> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:38] <eagles0513875> ty
[09:39] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: you in the adept_manager
[09:39] <eagles0513875> nope
[09:39] <eagles0513875> using cli
[09:39] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: you can edit your repositories within adept_manager
[09:39] <eagles0513875> ?
[09:39] <eagles0513875> how
[09:39] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[09:39] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:39] <Linux_Galore_> open a term type  sudo adept_manager
[09:40] <eagles0513875> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:40] <eagles0513875> thats the source list
[09:40] <viktor_> with linux do i get rpm or self install
[09:40] <eagles0513875> im in adept manager
[09:40] <vzduch> eagles0513875: no, it's not, it's the main page :)
[09:40] <eagles0513875> vzduch: ??
[09:41] <viktor_> which to download
[09:41] <eagles0513875> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42448/
[09:41] <vzduch> eagles0513875: you should get a URL saying http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/<running_number>
[09:41] <vzduch> ah, that's better :)
[09:41] <eagles0513875> i got it
[09:41] <eagles0513875> sry bout that still waking up here
[09:41] <k5ubuntu> what is the upgrade command for konsole?
[09:41] <viktor_> download rpm self extracting or just normal self extracting
[09:42] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: medibuntu repository isnt listed
[09:42] <vzduch> eagles0513875: nothing in there saying medibuntu
[09:42] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:42] <eagles0513875> how do i get it listed
[09:42] <vzduch> !sourceomatic | eagles0513875
[09:42] <ubot3> eagles0513875: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:42] <eagles0513875> i followed what to do on the medi site
[09:42] <Ace2016> Hi all
[09:42] <k5ubuntu> i need to upgrade my kubuntu
[09:42] <eagles0513875> those r the 64bit repositories
[09:42] <k5ubuntu> what is the code
[09:42] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875:  ok cut and past these commands into a terminal
[09:42] <Ace2016> how do i find out the install date of this system?
[09:42] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore_: ok
[09:43] <Ace2016> i want to check some stats but without an install date its pretty useless
[09:43] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875:  sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[09:43] <vzduch> Ace2016: try the date of a file called '/success' (in the root directory) or /etc/ubuntu-release (or whatever it's called)
[09:44] <eagles0513875> i dont think its working Linux_Galore_
[09:44] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: have to type the user password
[09:44] <eagles0513875> no
[09:44] <eagles0513875> brb
[09:45] <Linux_Galore_> eagles0513875: it will request your admin user password
[09:45] <vzduch> eagles0513875: 'sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list'
[09:45] <Ace2016> vzduch: don't have either of those files
[09:45] <vzduch> eagles0513875: then 'wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update'
[09:45] <viktor_> RPM self extract or normal self EXTRACt to download please help
[09:45] <vzduch> viktor_: ?
[09:45] <k5ubuntu> how do i update kubuntu to 7.10?
[09:46] <viktor_> im downlaod java update which one to get
[09:46] <vzduch> !upgrade | k5ubuntu
[09:46] <ubot3> k5ubuntu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:46] <Linux_Galore_> k5ubuntu: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade   should work
[09:47] <vzduch> Linux_Galore_: sure?  wouldn't you have to change the sources.list beforehand?
[09:47] <vzduch> Linux_Galore_: apart from that, this way isn't recommended
[09:47] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore_: it didnt work that way
[09:47] <Tm_T> exactly
[09:47] <Linux_Galore_> vzduch: adept usually starts an update dialog
[09:48] <vzduch> Linux_Galore_: you were just talking aptitude
[09:48] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore_: it didnt work
[09:48] <eagles0513875> how can i add it in adept
[09:48] <Linux_Galore_> sorry aptitude does lol
[09:48] <vzduch> eagles0513875: seen my 2 lines above?
[09:48] <eagles0513875> i did them
[09:49] <eagles0513875> it doesnt seem to add it
[09:49] <dappermuis> just joined, but is the problem here with upgrading? that the upgrade dialog doesn't appear?
[09:49] <viktor_> i need emerald themes and there is none with kubuntu
[09:49] <Linux_Galore_> viktor_:  www.kde-look.org
[09:49] <eagles0513875> wait they r added
[09:50] <viktor_> oh thanks
[09:51] <vzduch> eagles0513875: the 'apt-get update' step was already included in the above commands, so you should be able to continue by 'apt-get install w32codecs'
[09:51] <eagles0513875> thats screwed up
[09:51] <eagles0513875> they changed the name on the pkg
[09:51] <vzduch> the Medibuntu site says otherwise
[09:51] <eagles0513875> i just did an apt-cache search and its named non-free-codecs
[09:52] <vzduch> that's also available
[09:52] <vzduch> or does it say so in the text?
[09:52] <eagles0513875> i did apt-cache search for w32codecs
[09:52] <davide> cè nessun italiano??
[09:52] <vzduch> !it | davide
[09:52] <ubot3> davide: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:52] <eagles0513875> and the only thing that came up was non-free-codecs
[09:53] <davide> grazie ciao
[09:53] <vzduch> so you should install that, I guess :)
[09:53] <pag> eagles0513875, are you running 32 or 64bit?
[09:55] <eagles0513875> pag: 64bit
[09:55] <pag> eagles0513875, " sudo apt-get install w64codecs " :)
[09:55] <eagles0513875> its still not working
[09:55] <moonlight> Hello i am new at kubuntu someone can help me?
[09:55] <pag> !ask | moonlight
[09:55] <ubot3> moonlight: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:55] <Lynoure> moonlight: ask your question and we'll see
[09:56] <eagles0513875> pag: already installed
[09:56] <eagles0513875> sound converter still isnt working
[09:56] <iecsam_> eagles: im running a 64
[09:56] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: r u having trouble with sound konverter
[09:56] <viktor_> how do i get the standard theme in emerald theme manager
[09:56] <viktor_> its all blank
[09:56] <iecsam_> no trouble at all
[09:56] <k5ubuntu> im running x86 on an bit 32 proccesor
[09:56] <pag> eagles0513875, what are you trying to convert ant to which format?
[09:56] <k5ubuntu> works like a gem
[09:56] <iecsam_> i installed the 32bit
[09:56] <eagles0513875> pag: wma to flac
[09:57] <Pergunta> m... kubuntu seems really nice but i want ubuntu too, so i installed ubuntu pack too and now my computer look like a big mas
[09:57] <Pergunta> i want the kubuntu software - show only at kubuntu not at ubuntu
[09:57] <pag> eagles0513875, do you have flac-encoder installed?
[09:57] <vzduch> k5ubuntu: that's what it's supposed to
[09:57] <Pergunta> and ubuntu softwares show only at ubuntu and not at ubuntu
[09:57] <eagles0513875> pag: ya i do
[09:58] <iecsam_> eagles: do u have all the codecs installed
[09:58] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: i have flac lame ffmpeg
[09:58] <Pergunta> someone got solution
[09:58] <eagles0513875> hold on
[09:58] <eagles0513875> dont have ffmpeg
[09:58] <iecsam_> can u play mp3 and other media files now
[09:59] <iecsam_> u can istall that and i think u'll  be fine
[09:59] <Pergunta> u talk to me?
[09:59] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: i have all my audio in wma
[09:59] <eagles0513875> i want to get it out of wma
[09:59] <iecsam_> ok
[10:00] <iecsam_> still haven't tried to convert in kubuntu
[10:00] <eagles0513875> its still not working
[10:00] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: download soundkonverter and try it
[10:00] <iecsam_> ok i'll try
[10:01] <Pergunta> ok
[10:01] <Pergunta> now u can help me pls?
[10:01] <vzduch> I prever converting stuff 'by hand'
[10:01] <eagles0513875> whats wrong dude just ask ur question and if anyone knows they will help ya
[10:01] <Pergunta> ok
[10:01] <Pergunta> listen:
[10:01] <Pergunta> m... kubuntu seems really nice but i want ubuntu too, so i installed ubuntu pack too and now my computer look like a big mas
[10:02] <eagles0513875> big mas??
[10:02] <Pergunta> i want the kubuntu software - show only at kubuntu not at ubuntu
[10:02] <Pergunta> and ubuntu softwares show only at ubuntu and not at ubuntu
[10:02] <Pergunta> min
[10:02] <Lynoure> Pergunta: slow down a bit.
[10:02] <k5ubuntu> he means he used wubi and it shows ubuntu ubuntu he whants it to show kubuntu, ubuntu
[10:03] <Pergunta> ok
[10:03] <nicon--> hello
[10:03] <iecsam_> dude eagles: did u install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:03] <k5ubuntu> pergunta ill check for a solution
[10:03] <Pergunta> ok
[10:03] <Lynoure> Pergunta: if you want the kubuntu start menu not to show ubuntu programs, you can manually remove them from start menu.
[10:03] <eagles0513875> i copied the source list from sourceomatic
[10:03] <Pergunta> and i mean: Big mess not mas sry
[10:04] <nicon--> i got problem with my dwl-g510, can smb help me (the best at priv)?
[10:04] <Lynoure> s/start/K
[10:04] <Pergunta> but i want
[10:04] <Pergunta> to have
[10:04] <Pergunta> both
[10:04] <nicon--> i got problem with my dwl-g510, can smb help me (the best at priv)?
[10:04] <Pergunta> but on kubuntu i dont want see ubuntu program
[10:04] <Lynoure> Pergunta: removing them from the K menu will not affect the contents of Gnome menu at all
[10:04] <Pergunta> and at ubuntu not to see kubuntu
[10:04] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: i copied the source list from sourceomatic
[10:04] <Lynoure> Pergunta: it's just a menu.
[10:04] <k5ubuntu> yes i no
[10:04] <Pergunta> ohh yea?
[10:05] <Pergunta> yey
[10:05] <k5ubuntu> yes
[10:05] <k5ubuntu> it is
[10:05] <Pergunta> m... and more thing
[10:05] <iecsam_> my amarok plays wma's now
[10:05] <k5ubuntu> the bottom one is recently installed
[10:05] <iecsam_> after i installed all the related codecs
[10:05] <k5ubuntu> lol
[10:05] <eagles0513875> how do i add the restriced extras repo
[10:05] <eagles0513875> what codecs did u download
[10:05] <iecsam_> from the adept manager
[10:06] <Linux_Galore_> I remember someone made a script that speperates the GTK and KDE apps out on the main menus
[10:06] <iecsam_> first fetch update : then install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:06] <yugge_> Hey guys, I got a bit of a mess, I bought a IR-RC that attaches it self by USB, it mounts as a /dev/input/event, I've sorted all things out with inputlircd so the commands are correct, but I'm experiencing heavy repeat issues, I've taken a look throu evtest where it shows (per single quick keypress) 1 "value 1" (key down) 7 "value 2" (Key Repeat) 1 "value 0" (Key Up). Is there anyway in inputlircd or even evdev to ignore the repeats via i
[10:06] <Pergunta> the browser dont show properly all the web sites
[10:06] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: im not getting what u mean
[10:06] <iecsam_> open ur adept manager
[10:06] <eagles0513875> open
[10:07] <Linux_Galore_> Pergunta: use firefox then
[10:07] <Pergunta> ok
[10:07] <iecsam_> then click on fetch update
[10:07] <iecsam_> then search for :kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:07] <eagles0513875> ok dun
[10:07] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:07] <nicon--> i got problem with my dwl-g510, can smb help me (the best at priv)?
[10:07] <iecsam_> then install it
[10:08] <Linux_Galore_> nicon--: you picked a nasty nework card
[10:08] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: its already installed
[10:08] <nicon--> Linux_Galore_: i know :P
[10:08] <iecsam_> ok try this :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:08] <eagles0513875> i  need a wma decoder
[10:08] <nicon--> can smb help me?
[10:09] <vzduch> !info centerim
[10:09] <iecsam_> follow the instaructions
[10:09] <ubot3> centerim: A text-mode multi-protocol instant messenger client. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.22.1-2.1 (gutsy), package size 1231 kB, installed size 3260 kB
[10:09] <nicon--> can smb help me?
[10:09] <pag> !patience | nicon--
[10:09] <ubot3> nicon--: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:09] <eagles0513875> :( this is getting me rather frustrated
[10:09] <eagles0513875> it used to be my wifi and video card now its codecs
[10:10] <iecsam_> dude eagles: it took me like 3 days to figure that out : not really but i kept on installing codecs and finally worked hehe
[10:10] <iecsam_> so give kubuntu a chance
[10:10] <eagles0513875> what other codecs r there to download
[10:10] <iecsam_> there's like a whole bunch
[10:10] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: i do i cant use any other distro
[10:11] <eagles0513875> i love kubuntu way to much lol
[10:11] <iecsam_> yeah hehe thats the spirit keep going
[10:11] <Linux_Galore_> nicon--: I just purchased a Netgear WG511T on ebay for a princely sum of $7.31 and it works right off the cuff
[10:11] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: i think this is the best version yet lol
[10:11] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: what other codecs r there to download i have lame flac ffmpeg
[10:12] <iecsam_> dude eagles try ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:12] <iecsam_> i installed that too
[10:13] <eagles0513875> still no wma decoder
[10:13] <eagles0513875> !codecs
[10:13] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <WaltzingAlong> !wma
[10:14] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <iecsam_> eagles: i think i got it - open your adept manager and search mp3
[10:14] <eagles0513875> u mean for lame
[10:14] <iecsam_> just mp3
[10:14] <iecsam_> there are 3 codecs
[10:14] <eagles0513875> ok done
[10:15] <alibobaevich> eagles0513875_: browse to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  or to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs and you will find info about the codec
[10:15] <eagles0513875> i have lame and im downloading lame extras
[10:15] <iecsam_> install those 3 and i think u'll be fine
[10:15] <iecsam_> some kdemultimeda plugin
[10:16] <iecsam_> is the one i think in those 3
[10:16] <iecsam_> but u can install all 3
[10:16] <jens> is there a program to convert wma to mp3
[10:16] <iecsam_> jens u dont have to convert
[10:16] <iecsam_> amarok can play all wma's
[10:16] <iecsam_> after u install restricted-extras
[10:16] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: for some reason its not playing for me
[10:17] <iecsam_> did u install it eagles
[10:17] <iecsam_> the 3 codecs
[10:17] <eagles0513875> ya
[10:17] <jens> i shall use the mp3ś in a harddisk recorder it only takes mp3
[10:18] <eagles0513875> jens: use soundkonverter
[10:18] <jens> ty eagles i try that
[10:18] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhhhhh this is frustrating lol
[10:20] <vzduch> !aptfix
[10:20] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:20] <eagles0513875> ?
[10:20] <vzduch> eagles0513875: not for you
[10:20] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[10:22] <iecsam_> eagles: did u install libxine1-ffmpeg
[10:22] <viktor_> whats the command to install compiz fusion
[10:22] <viktor_> on kubuntu
[10:23] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | viktor_
[10:23] <WaltzingAlong> jens: hardly much reason to convert from wma to mp3
[10:23] <viktor_> ive tryed that link and didnt work
[10:23] <_043> em... need help... i've installed kubuntu 7.10, then installed the propietary ati driver from the 'restricted drivers' section... now when i try to boot kubuntu, there is only a black screen after the kubuntu progressbar... how can I rollback to the old display driver now?
[10:24] <eagles0513875> did u back up ur xorg.conf
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> !work | viktor_
[10:24] <ubot3> viktor_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[10:24] <_043> no
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> _043: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[10:25] <_043> eh... i'm so noob... how do i get kubuntu to boot without gui?
[10:25] <vzduch> WaltzingAlong: 'phigh' should be used w/ care, it'll reset any custom keymap to en_US, e.g.
[10:25] <iecsam_> eagles: Vorbis is the decorder for wma files : search for it in adept manager
[10:26] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: it is
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> _043: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg                                press ctrl+alt+f1  to get to a !terminal
[10:26] <tds> _043, i think you can hold down F2 or something and it will login via console
[10:26] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[10:26] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:26] <vzduch> a question: was centerim only added to Gutsy universe?  or is it also available in Feisty?
[10:26] <_043> thanks
[10:27] <ubuntu> Hey, I just installed Kubuntu, and i was wondering if it is possible to run WoW without problems?
[10:28] <eagles0513875> meistR:
[10:28] <eagles0513875> meistR: u need to donwload wine
[10:28] <meistR> okay, then make some scripting also, or?
[10:28] <WaltzingAlong> sure run it through wine. there are plenty of guides on it
[10:28] <meistR> okay..
[10:28] <alibobaevich> eagles0513875_: try to install w32codecs package to use wma. it's not GPL, but it should help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[10:28] <WaltzingAlong> !medibuntu
[10:28] <ubot3> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[10:28] <meistR> i found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[10:28] <eagles0513875> iecsam_: whats the name of the pkg u downloaded
[10:29] <saroset> Any tools for website development?
[10:29] <WaltzingAlong> !html
[10:29] <ubot3> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages.  Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and KompoZer(Nvu).  For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[10:29] <saroset> Thanks =]
[10:31] <iecsam_> i installed vorbis & the mp3 codecs eagles
[10:32] <vzduch> no one here running Feisty any more? o0
[10:32]  * vzduch is running some other distro..
[10:32] <WaltzingAlong> !info dir2ogg
[10:32] <ubot3> dir2ogg: audio file converter into ogg-vorbis format. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 11 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:33] <iecsam_> waltzingAlong: if i update the version from adept manager will i be losing KDE since Ubuntu doesn't have KDE pre-installed
[10:34] <someguy> why do i get the following errors when trying to use gcc in kubuntu
[10:34] <someguy> GameBoard.c:7:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[10:35] <WaltzingAlong> iecsam_: were you asking?
[10:35] <saroset> Sounds like a header file is missing.
[10:36] <someguy> I have to do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:36] <someguy> but that gets 10mb of packages
[10:36] <someguy> i just want gcc to work...
[10:36] <vzduch> what's the problem w/ that?
[10:36] <someguy> I dont have the time
[10:36] <someguy> to d/l 10mb
[10:37] <vzduch> your problem :)
[10:37] <vzduch> I guess it'll take more time trying to do it w/o build-essential than just downloading and installing the stuff
[10:40] <tds> someguy, you're either on dialup or having an emergency. 10mb files aren't that big
[10:40] <eagles0513875> this is bs
[10:41] <someguy> tds: i'm capped
[10:41] <someguy> in australia they limit the speed of yr connection after passing a certain limit of data transfer
[10:41] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[10:41] <tds> someguy, damn, do i feel sorry for you guys
[10:41] <ubot3> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:42] <eagles0513875> someguy: they do that here in malta as well
[10:43] <eagles0513875> how much do u ahve amonth i have 10gb
[10:43] <someguy> 30
[10:43] <eagles0513875> lucky u
[10:43] <eagles0513875> im still having problems with finding a wma decoder
[10:44] <tds> eagles0513875, sudo apt-get install xmms2-plugin-wma
[10:44] <eagles0513875> tds: will that work with soundkonverter so i can convert my audio to flac
[10:44] <eagles0513875> i have it installed already
[10:45] <vzduch> I somehow don't believe that there's still places where you can't get a flat rate if you can get broadband
[10:45] <eagles0513875> vzduch: in america i do no cap
[10:45] <eagles0513875> 5gb dow bout 1.5 up
[10:45] <tds> eagles0513875, wish i could say but was the only thing to come up in apt-cache search for wma decoder
[10:46] <eagles0513875> forget it once i get wine up and running ii have a windows program that i can use that will allow me to convert to flac as well
[10:46] <WaltzingAlong> someguy: gcc works but whatever you are building has requirements
[10:47] <tds> eagles0513875, if it's already encoded, why encode some more to decrease quality?
[10:47] <eagles0513875> tds: it was encoded in wma losless
[10:47] <eagles0513875> im just converting it to flac from wma losless
[10:48] <tds> eagles0513875, oh, ok. wasn't aware wma had a lossless option
[10:49] <eagles0513875> tds: it does slightly higher bitrates then flac but flac is just as good
[10:49] <eagles0513875> tds: i noticed a great difference when i used wma losless audio cd in my car
[10:49] <eagles0513875> it sounds amazing lol
[10:49] <wilson__> linux seems to be pretty good for media converting, i'm playing around with mencoder, very good
[10:49] <eagles0513875> !mencoder
[10:50] <viktor_> hi i have donwload the tar file for flash player how do i sintall it
[10:50] <tds> eagles0513875, i always used mp3 192k, my ears don't notice the difference
[10:51] <ardchoille> viktor_: Why did you download it when it's in the repos?
[10:51] <tds> then again, i've had years of hearing circular saws whine
[10:51] <viktor_> i dont know how to use repos
[10:51] <eagles0513875> ouch sry to hear that tds
[10:51] <ardchoille> !repos | viktor_
[10:51] <ubot3> viktor_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:51] <eagles0513875> i cant wait to try world of warcraft with wine
[10:51] <ardchoille> !flash | viktor_
[10:51] <ubot3> viktor_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:51] <eagles0513875> thats the only reason i had winblows to begin with
[10:51] <viktor_> how do i run the restricted ap
[10:51] <tds> viktor_, there's a graphical apt, might be easier to use that
[10:52] <ardchoille> tds: What graphical app?
[10:52] <luca> hi everyone
[10:52] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: i think hes talking bout adept manager
[10:53] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Ah, ok
[10:53] <tds> ardchoille, adept manager, comes with KDE
[10:54] <vzduch> tds: you mean 'comes w/ Debian-based KDE systems' *gg*
[10:54] <viktor_> i am gettin grub install error on my other pc when installin any reason for this
[10:54] <jens> where can i read about instaling programs, without adept, i am totaly newbie to linux
[10:55] <tds> vzduch, yeah. actually, Kpackage does also
[10:55] <eagles0513875> jens: u wanna know the commands to use in the terminal
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> jens: sudo aptitude
[10:55] <tds> jens, if you're using Kubuntu and it's a .deb file, usually just click on it. if it's from source, usually ./configure, make, sudo make install
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: i have had good experiences with WoW through wine
[10:56] <wilson__> dpkg -i
[10:56] <jens> yes for downloading, unpacking,and indsalling
[10:56] <jens> its a tar file
[10:56] <wilson__> to install from a file you can use dpkg -i [filename]
[10:56] <vzduch> aptitude has some nice search functions.. other than that one should prefer apt-get over aptitude, as aptitude also installs recommended pkgs as dependencies, which apt-get doesn't
[10:56] <wilson__> that's for .deb files
[10:56] <ardchoille> tds: Yes, I know that.. been using ubuntu for years.
[10:57] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i get really crappy frame rates though
[10:57] <vzduch> jens: don't use source pkgs unless there's no other option or you explicitly want to install from source
[10:57] <viktor_> grub error when isntalin how
[10:58] <eagles0513875> fuck
[10:58] <adam__> hello
[10:58] <jens> its a program to run a weatherstation, so idont think i have a choice
[10:58] <eagles0513875> !language |eagles0513875
[10:58] <vzduch> eagles0513875: tsk
[10:58] <viktor_> what does flush plugin non free mean
[10:58] <eagles0513875> sry bout that guys but this windows program wont let me convert from wma to flac its saying its drm protected
[10:58] <vzduch> never heard of a flush plugin.. what's it supposed to do?  clean your hdd? :D
[10:58] <eagles0513875> vzduch: lol
[10:59] <HighHo> viktor_: it just means its not released as open source, meaning that os developers can not ultimatly support or improve it
[10:59] <tds> eagles0513875, another reason to stay away from windows
[10:59] <Shao`Sama> Anyone else having problems with ark, unrar-free and multiple rar archives? I can extract fine using rar from multiverse, but with unrar-free it just fails
[10:59] <eagles0513875> tds: tell me bout it
[10:59] <viktor_> oh ok as long as it works wit youtube thats all that maters
[11:00] <eagles0513875> tds: why though i dont have a wma decoder with sound konverter
[11:00] <tds> Shao`Sama, would this help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258735&highlight=rar
[11:00] <WaltzingAlong> wma to flac?
[11:00] <eagles0513875> anyone know of any other audio converters
[11:00] <eagles0513875> ya
[11:00] <eagles0513875> dont have wma decoder for soundkonverter
[11:01] <tds> eagles0513875, probably tried Audacity haven't you?
[11:01] <eagles0513875> i have audacity but it only allows for conversion to mp3 or ogg
[11:02] <Shao`Sama> tds: Thanks, but unrar-free won't extract at all here, and I was being a bit unclear, sorry. It's one file divided into several .r0x archives. I'm just wondering if I should file a bug against unrar-free or not..
[11:02] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: mplayer / mencoder ? vlc ?
[11:02] <viktor_> ive got laptop with xp and i wanna put kubuntu on i partioton 10gig to the side for it and i get a grub error
[11:02] <viktor_> cant get it to install
[11:03] <tds> eagles0513875, doesn't ffmpeg decode wma?
[11:03] <eagles0513875> no encodes
[11:04] <adam__> i have gutsy and i tried using nvidia propertiary driver, but there is something wrong with this driver: dissapearing icons, dissapearing menu text, freezes etc etc, Anyone have similar problems?
[11:04] <HighHo> viktor_: Do you get any error message?
[11:04] <tds> Shao`Sama, maybe so. i haven't really used rar files that much even though i have lots of rar files on my windows partition
[11:04] <viktor_> nope
[11:05] <HighHo> Does the install complete without any issues?
[11:05] <tds> viktor_, what program did you use to make the partition?
[11:05] <adam__> anyone knows how to fix nvidia propertiary driver problems?
[11:06] <viktor_> partition magic and it the install gets to 94%
[11:06] <HighHo> adam__: I dont use the nvidia drivers, but perhaps you can try and get the latest linux driver direct from nvidia which is likly to be more recent, that the ones in the repos
[11:06] <adam__> ive used envy to get it and still there is many problems
[11:07] <ardchoille> !envy | adam__
[11:07] <ubot3> adam__: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:07] <viktor_> partition magic and it the install gets to 94%
[11:07] <Linux_Galore> I ended up using envy, I couldnt manually get glx to work, envy worked fine
[11:08] <ardchoille> I use the nvidia-gl driver from the repos and it works fine on all 11 of my computers.
[11:08] <adam__> previously i used restricted manager and nothinhg changed
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: if you can get it into wav you can encode it into anything else
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: and anything that can play it can (should) be able to output it as a wav
[11:08] <tds> adam__, i've had probs with Kubuntu 7.10 and using the nvidia drivers from the site. same ones as gutsy repo has but in the end, i just completely purged it all and used the one in the repos
[11:08] <adam__> i mean nvidia-glx works but with problems
[11:08] <viktor_> someone help me why its not installin
[11:08] <viktor_> someone help me why its not installin
[11:09] <adam__> on feisty there was no problems with nvidia
[11:09] <Linux_Galore> viktor_: did you turn the power management on in the bios before the install
[11:09] <HighHo> viktor_: have you tryed to burn a new cd, incase it is a media issue?
[11:09] <Linux_Galore> viktor_: did you turn the power management "off" in the bios before the install
[11:09] <Linux_Galore> sorry
[11:10] <adam__> tds: are you added some options to xorg.conf manually?
[11:10] <viktor_> no why would i need to turn power managment off
[11:10] <Linux_Galore> I had a machine that stalls install thanks the bios power management, turn it off and it went smooth
[11:10] <WaltzingAlong> typical mentality: it is broken!             some insight later... oh, i broke it
[11:10] <viktor_> could it be partion magic that stuffed it
[11:11] <tds> adam__, no, worked fine without them. i fooled with the xorg for a while while using the drivers from the site but had no probs just using the repo drivers
[11:11] <viktor_> could it be partion magic that stuffed it
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> viktor_: why are you using partition magic anyway
[11:11] <viktor_> to make that 10gig part of harddrive coz i was using xp
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> viktor_: the install will do that
[11:11] <viktor_> yer but i already have dont ask i wasnt thinkin
[11:11] <tds> viktor_, there's a gnome partition manager which works pretty good
[11:12] <Linux_Galore> viktor_: just create the partition with PM then do a normal install
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> been years since I used Partition Mangler
[11:14] <adam__> tds: which nvidia card you have?
[11:15] <byewindows> hi
[11:15] <tds> adam__, 6800GT
[11:15] <byewindows> in Amarok I can read my mp3, I have an error in a notification
[11:15] <byewindows> about mp3
[11:16] <byewindows> I have installed the kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:16] <vzduch> eagles0513875: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/convert-wma-mp3-77093/
[11:16] <vzduch> eagles0513875: "mplayer file.wma -ao pcm -aofile file.wav will convert to a wav file from which you can convert to an mp3/ogg yourself [...]"
[11:21]  * ferox è altrove: Pero ora assente.
[11:22] <vzduch> !away | ferox
[11:22] <ubot3> ferox: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[11:25] <Pergunta> can i help for improve kubuntu?
[11:26] <Pergunta> someone????????????
[11:26] <Sine> huh
[11:26] <HighHo> Pergunta: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
[11:27] <Pergunta> thanks
[11:29] <tds> !showquit
[11:29] <ubot3> Factoid showquit not found
[11:29] <tds> anyone know how to get rid of the leaving joining statements in xchat? it's really distracting
[11:33] <Minnozz> kicker crashed, what can I do with the backtrace info?
[11:35] <alesan> hi, I have installed the googleearth-package thing, but how can I install it for real?
[11:35] <alesan> any idea?
[11:36] <Sine> why does KDE come with 70 programs?
[11:37] <ardchoille> Sine: Because it's a K Desktop Environment
[11:37] <naught101> has anyone else had problems getting ksambaconf to work, through kcontrol?
[11:37] <Sine> ardchoille: but do you really need them all?
[11:37] <naught101> for me, it won't save changed settings
[11:38] <ardchoille> Sine: I don't, others might. You can't please everyone all the time.
[11:38] <HighHo> Sine: you can remove any you dont wish to use
[11:39] <ksivaji> network manager take more cpu cycle almost 50% ,in taskbar it says networks is disconnected
[11:42] <pag> alesan, what do you mean by "for real"?
[11:43] <ksivaji> pag do you have any idea
[11:44] <pag> ksivaji, umm... others than "since when has knetworkmanager worked?".. no, I don't. sorry.
[11:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey everyone!
[11:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Has someone successfully patched the Gutsy Kernel with the BadRAM patch and can give me a hand?
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Hey!
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> hiya MilhousePunkRock how goes it?
[11:52]  * ferox è  tornato.
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Fine, fine... Got a "new" old machine last week, so I have a little project again...
[11:53] <TheGateKeeper> MilhousePunkRock, pm'ed you :)
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: I know... :)
[11:53] <ardchoille> !bugs
[11:53] <ubot3> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:07] <WaltzingAlong> sine: kde is kde
[12:10] <{slacky}> hello
[12:10] <{slacky}> is this a developer channel too?
[12:11] <ksivaji> #ubuntu-dev
[12:12] <WaltzingAlong> #kubuntu-devel {slacky}
[12:12] <{slacky}> WaltzingAlong: thank you
[12:16] <viktor_> i need to install firefox
[12:17] <ksivaji> viktor_    sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:18]  * ksivaji opera is better choice than firefox
[12:18] <PolitikerALT> opera is not free
[12:18] <ksivaji> PolitikerALT still you can install in ubuntu
[12:18] <ksivaji> for free of cost
[12:19] <PolitikerALT> that's true - but it is against the spirit of Linux (if you say OS = Free Software)
[12:20] <PolitikerALT> so new user shouldn't start using propritary software right away - otherwise they get addicted to it
[12:22] <{slacky}> Kubuntu 7.10 live CD has beryl effect by default?
[12:22] <^Costeno^> kubuntu 7.10 has non beryl
[12:22] <viktor_> hi i want to install pigeon messnger
[12:22] <viktor_> sudo apt-get install ???
[12:22] <ksivaji> kopete
[12:23] <viktor_> no kopete dont like
[12:23] <ksivaji> !kopete
[12:23] <ubot3> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 7550 kB, installed size 21956 kB
[12:23] <viktor_> pigeion is better
[12:23] <{slacky}> ^Costeno^: and what?
[12:23] <^Costeno^> has compiz
[12:23] <pag> viktor_, "pigeon"? you mean "pidgin"?
[12:23] <{slacky}> ^Costeno^: compiz ok... is compiz enabled by default?
[12:23] <HighHo> viktor_: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[12:23] <^Costeno^> beryl and compiz get together and now we call compiz-fusion
[12:23] <ksivaji> !pidgin
[12:23] <ubot3> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[12:23] <^Costeno^> well i dont know
[12:24] <^Costeno^> i dont use live cd
[12:24] <ksivaji> hi Pavel Galkin
[12:25] <pag> ksivaji, umm.. hi..
[12:27] <viktor_> downloaded java for so long with adept manager and got an error will installing now screwed no java still
[12:27] <viktor_> someone please help
[12:27] <WaltzingAlong> !java
[12:27] <ubot3> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:28] <ardchoille> If I launch konqueror fm as root, shouldn't I be able to also edit files via the context menu item "Open with" as root?
[12:29] <WaltzingAlong> ardchoille: launching with kdesu konqueror ? then yes everything opened would be as 'root'
[12:29] <marky_xyz> hi, guys! what could be the possible reasons why my sound is scratchy when i plug my headphones?  the sound is really terrible.  on windows, it is very fine.
[12:29] <WaltzingAlong> marky_xyz: turn down the volume a little
[12:29] <ardchoille> WaltzingAlong:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/158028
[12:29] <ubot3> Malone bug 158028 in kdebase "Root instance of konqueror does not allow for editing files" [Undecided,New]
[12:29] <marky_xyz> on speakers, it is a bit ok, but still scratchy
[12:30] <viktor_> install compiz
[12:30] <viktor_> sorri wrong convo
[12:30] <marky_xyz> WaltzingAlong: if i turn it down, i can barely hear anything already.  sound on Linux is way lower than Windows,i noticed
[12:30] <WaltzingAlong> marky_xyz: there is "pcm" and "master" and perhaps another for headphones or whichever
[12:30] <marky_xyz> sorry to compare but i would say there is not scratch noise on windows at all.  so i don't think it's my hardware, right?
[12:31] <marky_xyz> WaltzingAlong: there is none for headphones.  just PCM & PCM2 + MASTER
[12:31] <vbgunz> marky_xyz: I experience the same thing. I asked about it and it seems not everyone experiences it. maybe we sensitive?
[12:32] <marky_xyz> vbgunz: yeah, i read a lot of cases on the forums.
[12:32] <vbgunz> I just came from Windows, playing some portal maps and with sound blasting I never hear any sound scratching like I do in Amarok when first starting/stopping a song or something
[12:32] <WaltzingAlong> vbgunz: could be the hardware is working properly; driver issue, mixer issue
[12:33] <marky_xyz> my sound device is a CONEXANT and the driver that is loaded is snd_hda_intel
[12:33] <marky_xyz> w/c seems to be the universal driver
[12:33] <viktor_> whats the site for compiz insall
[12:34] <vbgunz> not sure. I only hear the scratching/hissing/popping when starting/stopping amarok. other than that I rarely hear it. is it you hear it in Amarok mostly too?
[12:34] <marky_xyz> this could be a driver issue, yes?  should i be looking at ALSA or something else?
[12:34] <marky_xyz> vbgunz: i hear that too when i start/stop music on amarok.  but on headphones the noise is unbearable
[12:35] <marky_xyz> vbgunz: i would have to turn down PCM or MASTER for the noise to subside, but then i can barely here anything.
[12:36] <vbgunz> marky_xyz: are you on Gutsy? I rarely heard this on Feisty
[12:36] <marky_xyz> Feisty
[12:36] <marky_xyz> i'm have it installed on my Compaq Presario laptop
[12:37] <oem> can somebody speak spanish?
[12:37] <Jucato> !es | oem
[12:37] <ubot3> oem: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[12:37] <viktor_> how to install compiz fusion
[12:37] <viktor_> the web site plz
[12:37] <Jucato> !compiz | viktor_
[12:37] <ubot3> viktor_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:38] <viktor_> thank u bot
[12:38] <Jucato> heh
[12:38] <Jucato> !botsnack
[12:38] <ubot3> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:45] <anto> ciao a tutti
[12:45] <anto> come faccio a sapere la mia password root?
[12:45] <Jucato> !it | anto
[12:45] <ubot3> anto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:46] <anto> Ok thx
[12:51] <dvoid> where can i find kubuntu packages for the latest ati drivers?
[12:51] <dvoid> its been a while since the release and still no update :S
[12:51] <ksivaji> " packages.ubuntu.com "
[12:52] <ksivaji> search in google " ati driver for ubuntu "
[12:52] <ksivaji> dvoid
[12:52] <dvoid> but those packages shuld already be avaiable trough apt right?
[12:52] <ksivaji> dvoid that depends on your repos
[12:53] <dvoid> yea but ist that a standard repo?
[12:53] <dvoid> i have enabled all of the hardcoded  repos in adept
[12:53] <ksivaji> dvoid i am not using ati driver so i dont know
[12:54] <dvoid> and i have installed an older ati fglrx driver from the default repo.
[12:54] <viktor_> open office does not work properly its full screen and cant change it
[12:54] <dvoid> so the new driver shuld be avaiable there? :S
[12:55] <Darviyl> I had problems connecting to wireless network, so I tried manual configuration on knetworkmanager. After that no network shows up when I rightclick the Icon, and I can't reset it either. Does anyone know how to get the standard configuration back?
[12:55] <ksivaji> apt-cache search xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:55] <dvoid> ksivaji, yes, but theres no updates
[12:55] <dvoid> no new release since the new ati driver was released
[12:56] <ksivaji> dvoid search in ubuntuforums
[12:56] <dvoid> i got the idea that ubuntu is usualy quick to get updated packages. maybe i was wrong
[12:57] <ksivaji> !wireless | Darviyl
[12:57] <ubot3> Darviyl: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:00] <alesan> hi, how was the procedure to delete the new boring filemanager?
[13:01] <alesan> I heard there was a panel to bring back konqueror
[13:01] <Indust> HI, i really cant enable "cloneing" on my two monitors ( laptop TFT and External (vga-out) )!!! i tried a lot of stuff ... pls hlp
[13:01] <Indust> alesan - deleting is enough
[13:02] <Indust> alesan but you can still use kcontrol f- file association  OR  something with " rightclick OPEN files - file association "
[13:04] <alesan> Indust: I just want konqueror to appear when I click on the "home" icon on the taskbar
[13:04] <^Costeno^> have u guys watch aero vista vs beryl on youtube web?
[13:05] <Jucato> !dolphin | Indust
[13:05] <ubot3> Indust: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[13:06] <Indust> japp -- for me apt-get  removing the dolphine was enough.
[13:06] <Indust>  the clicking on the home "icon" is the same as clicking on any "directory"  - so "kcontrol" and "context menue " provide the solution for you
[13:06] <Jucato> oop sorry wrong person
[13:06] <Jucato> !dolphin | alesan
[13:06] <ubot3> alesan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[13:07] <Indust> H3LP :     ;(    HI, i really cant enable "cloneing" on my two monitors ( laptop TFT and External (vga-out) )!!! i tried a lot of stuff ... pls hlp
[13:07] <Jucato> !twinhead
[13:07] <ubot3> Factoid twinhead not found
[13:07] <Jucato> bah...
[13:07] <Indust> !dualhead
[13:07] <ubot3> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[13:07] <Indust> BUT CLONING is not DUALHEAD
[13:08] <Karti> !dvd
[13:08] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:08] <Indust> and gusty is really - I DONT KNOW - unsoupporting
[13:08] <Jucato> !twinview
[13:08] <ubot3> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[13:08] <Jucato> not really sure... never had the chance to have more than 1 display
[13:08] <Karti> !tclsh
[13:08] <ubot3> Factoid tclsh not found
[13:10] <Indust> :)  yeah -  but the error i have is  not normal- anyway ~ after session manager ( when starting x ) th external monitor just displays for some seconds  the starting of KDE and then goes in standby mode... ( refreshing rates are okay)
[13:12] <intEx> Anybody who knows their way around XMMS?
[13:13] <ksivaji> Jucato i got a strage problem after distro upgrade
[13:13] <HighHo> intEx: a little i havent used it in a few years
[13:13] <Jucato> what?
[13:13] <virnik> K3b is not working
[13:13] <virnik> in gutsy gibon
[13:13] <virnik> it writes CD
[13:13] <virnik> but cant read it
[13:13] <virnik> it says no medium found
[13:14] <virnik> can somebody help me out?
[13:14] <virnik> CD stays clean
[13:14] <ksivaji> Jucato i have four ext3 partitions i can access only root partition
[13:14] <Jucato> ksivaji: are the other 3 partitions mounted?
[13:15] <ksivaji> Jucato umount says its not mounted and mount  it is already mounted
[13:15] <ksivaji> says
[13:15] <virnik> just use umount -l /mnt/dir
[13:15] <HighHo> virnik: have you made sure you are not using the Simulate option?
[13:15] <virnik> and try also umount /dev/sdxB
[13:15] <virnik> and then again
[13:15] <Jucato> ksivaji: "mount" will list mounted partitions
[13:16] <virnik> HighHo: yes, I am pretty sure
[13:16] <virnik> HighHo: but it looks like its using only simulate
[13:16] <virnik> but its off
[13:16] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb6 /media/hdb6
[13:16] <ksivaji> mount: /dev/hdb6 already mounted or /media/hdb6 busy
[13:17] <HighHo> While it burning does your cd drive have any leds to show if its burning or not?
[13:17] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo umount /dev/hdb6
[13:17] <ksivaji> umount: /dev/hdb6: not mounted
[13:17] <contrast83> !doesntwork
[13:17] <ubot3> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[13:18] <ksivaji> Jucato
[13:19] <virnik> HighHo: it is notebook, so it have no leds. but it is working, cos I can hear it
[13:20] <virnik> I am stick with linux for 7 years, so I hope I am not lame. but it is weird. it looks like K3b works, writes CD, but after burning process is completed, burned CD is still blank
[13:20] <bmk789_> ok im REALLY tired of dolphin, how do i set konqueror to default?
[13:21] <virnik> cant be mounted, or so. mount says its blank. other linux desktop says the same. so, it is blank, if you take a look on its side, it is really blank.
[13:21] <ksivaji> Jucato are you there ?
[13:21] <virnik> bmk789_: I am not using dolphin at all...
[13:21] <alesan> bmk789_: I just uninstalled it
[13:21] <virnik> true
[13:21] <alesan> from adept
[13:21] <virnik> it is enough
[13:21] <virnik> or apt
[13:21] <Jucato> !dolphin | bmk789_ and alesan
[13:21] <ubot3> bmk789_ and alesan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[13:21] <virnik> apt-get remove dolphin
[13:21] <HighHo> virnik: You may want to try and reinstall k3b and also ensure the cd media is comptable with your drive (if you have not used the brand of disks before)
[13:22] <Jucato> ksivaji: yes
[13:22] <virnik> HighHo: hm, theese media are really known to me, I have used them in fesity, badger, and even redhat 7, so...
[13:22] <ksivaji> Jucato did you saw those line
[13:22] <bmk789_> thank you
[13:22] <virnik> but I will try uninstalling kšb
[13:22] <virnik> k3b
[13:23] <ksivaji> Jucato i dont know other 3 partition are mounted or not
[13:23] <Jucato> ksivaji: just type "mount" and you'll see which partitions are mounted
[13:23] <virnik> or type df
[13:23] <Jucato> (and where)
[13:23] <intExDK> Okay. Before Linux, I used Winamp in Windows. Now, that I've changed to XMMS, I've got a really tiring problem. Whenever I press "J" to search in XMMS, I do it to enqueu some tracks. Then, when I've enqueued a number, it resets the search parameters, so I have to write it again, if I e.g. want to enqueue an album.
[13:24] <Jucato> ksivaji: virnik is right: "mount" of "df" will give you an idea which are mounted
[13:24] <virnik> and you will se the same
[13:24] <virnik> Jucato: on konsole
[13:24] <Jucato> (except df shows "disk free" info as well)
[13:25] <ksivaji> ho i killed udevd process with id 2595
[13:25] <Jucato> virnik: df shows disk free, but not mount. mount uses what filesystem type, but not df :D
[13:25] <Jucato> why?
[13:25] <virnik> Jucato: df shows mounted partitions too
[13:26] <virnik> read man carefully
[13:26] <JackPhil> kio_mhtml?
[13:26] <ksivaji> Jucato because knetworkmanage and udevd were screwing my cpu it takes almost 60% of cpu and 10% ram
[13:26] <ksivaji> thats why
[13:26] <Jucato> ksivaji: unfortunately you need udev to be running too
[13:26] <Jucato> virnik: did I say otherwise?
[13:26] <HighHo> intExDK: xmms is now rather old now, perhaps you can try audacious which is more upto date winamp clone
[13:26] <Jucato> virnik: nvm
[13:26] <Jucato> :)
[13:26] <ksivaji> Jucato but why takes that much cpu and ram
[13:27] <intExDK> I will. Thanks for the help =)
[13:27] <Jucato> ksivaji: must be something else causing udev to do that.
[13:27] <Jucato> virnik: you could have said "df -T" :)
[13:27] <JackPhil> Ineed it
[13:34] <Minnozz> Hi, the volume buttons on my keyboard don't work properly. I have a Logitech Media Keyboard Elite and my keyboard is set to Logitech MX300 in kubuntu. When I turn up the volume, it goes from 0% to 11% (so it's the wrong volume it's controlling) but no higher than 11%. How can I set this up properly?
[13:35] <virnik> Minnozz: I can help you
[13:35] <virnik> problem is in Kmilo
[13:35] <virnik> just download Kmilo package from feisty fawn
[13:35] <virnik> open it
[13:35] <virnik> and rewrite its libraries over gutsy ones
[13:35] <Jucato> heh...
[13:35] <virnik> and you will have volume hotkeys fixed
[13:35] <Minnozz> virnik: Thanks a lot, I'm going to try it now =)
[13:35] <virnik> if you like new gutsy volume look
[13:36] <virnik> you can overwrite all except two
[13:36] <Jucato> not a very clean way to do it... but... oh well...
[13:36] <virnik> just play with it
[13:36] <virnik> I have it fixed
[13:36] <Minnozz> Ok, I'll try
[13:36] <virnik> do not install, or uninstall
[13:36] <virnik> just copy over
[13:36] <virnik> you will not break dependencies
[13:36] <Minnozz> ok =)
[13:36] <virnik> and everything will work ok
[13:36] <virnik> I have new gutsy OSD sound volume look
[13:36] <KalEl> hi, vlc is not displaying anything full screen, it doesn't show the blank screen too (although sound continues to play). could somebody help me with this please? it worked with gnome, though.
[13:36] <virnik> with older functionality
[13:37] <virnik> and everything works fine now
[13:37] <Minnozz> Sounds great =)
[13:37] <JackPhil> It seems no mhtml protocol for konqueror
[13:37] <virnik> KalEl: just compile mplayer
[13:37] <JackPhil> how to add it?
[13:37] <KalEl> ok downloading mplayer
[13:37] <virnik> Minnozz: yep...I have solved this one hour after upgrade from feisty
[13:38] <virnik> nobody helped, so...I just used old, DOS like way of game cracking :-))))
[13:38] <Jucato> JackPhil: I don't think mhtml is supported yet.... and I don't imagine it will be easy to implement one. perhaps you can try asking in #khtml if they will support that (what is mhtml anyway??)
[13:38] <virnik> KalEl: mplayer works fine, and without any problems. do not forget to download win codecs too
[13:39] <VousDeux> how can I find out what is eating my RAM?
[13:39] <JackPhil> Jucato, look this http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=14315&file1=14315-1.png&file2=14315-2.jpg&file3=14315-3.jpg&name=kmhtConvert
[13:39] <KalEl> virnik: mplayer working fine thanks... the subtitles are coming huge though in fullscreen
[13:40] <VousDeux> !memory leak
[13:40] <ubot3> Factoid memory leak not found
[13:40] <Jucato> VousDeux: try pressing Ctrl+Esc
[13:40] <Minnozz> virnik: I'm on this page now, what should I download? http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/kmilo
[13:40] <Jucato> VousDeux: er wait... how are you telling that something is eating your RAM? is everything slow?
[13:41] <VousDeux> I have a little meter applet that keeps going up
[13:41] <Jucato> VousDeux: is the meter applet only monitoring RAM being used by applications or disk cache as well?
[13:42] <JackPhil> anyhelp?
[13:42] <virnik> Minnozz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fkdeutils%2Fkmilo_3.5.6-0ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=58f89e5b923cd26359ac0b1021df3d24&arch=i386&type=main
[13:42] <VousDeux> I don't know the answer to that
[13:42] <virnik> Minnozz: or select 64b arch if u r using it
[13:42] <Jucato> VousDeux: first step to get a general overview of RAM usage, run K Menu -> System -> Kinfocenter and click on "Memory"
[13:42] <Jucato> JackPhil: that still doesn't tell me what mhtml is though
[13:43] <Minnozz> virnik: thanks, couldn't find it =)
[13:43] <virnik> Minnozz: it is almost at the end of the page....
[13:43] <VousDeux> it says disk cache is using 45%
[13:43] <virnik> so, download, and run mc
[13:43] <virnik> in mc, press enter on name of archive
[13:43] <Jucato> VousDeux: nothing to worry about then
[13:43] <virnik> there are paths
[13:43] <Jucato> !ram | VousDeux
[13:43] <ubot3> VousDeux: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[13:43] <virnik> in which it shall be installed
[13:43] <VousDeux> okay
[13:44] <VousDeux> thanks
[13:44] <virnik> so, copy that path on other panel
[13:44] <virnik> use the same path on your root filesystem
[13:44] <virnik> like in that package
[13:44] <JackPhil> jucatom, it's a  Microsoft Windows (R) Web Archive
[13:44] <virnik> and simply overwrite its files
[13:44] <virnik> and you will be fine
[13:44] <Minnozz> virnik: Ok ^^
[13:45] <Minnozz> virnik: mc is a package extractor or something?
[13:45] <ardchoille> !info mc
[13:45] <ubot3> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2102 kB, installed size 6060 kB
[13:45] <JackPhil> kmhtConvert can convert it to war, but it seems can do more, integrated to konqueror
[13:45] <atlfalcons866> is 8GB enough for ubuntu
[13:46] <HighHo> atlfalcons866: yes, easily
[13:47] <atlfalcons866> can i resize it down to 8GB if i have 11GB
[13:48] <Minnozz> virnik: so I'm in the .deb file on the left panel, navigated to /usr, and in /usr on the right panel. Then just copy?
[13:48] <ardchoille> Minnozz: What are you doing?
[13:48] <Minnozz> fixing my volume buttons on my keyboard
[13:49] <Jucato> trying to do the workaround virnik suggested for fixing kmilo on gutsy...
[13:49] <Minnozz> Jucato: yes I'm doing that now =)
[13:49] <ardchoille> Ah
[13:49] <Jucato> a bit of a nasty workaround... but not knowing any cleaner fix, I can't really judge :)
[13:49] <ardchoille> Jucato: I just saw him extracting files from a .deb and panicked :)
[13:49] <Jucato> that's what he was told :)
[13:49] <ardchoille> ok
[13:50] <virnik> Minnozz: yes
[13:50] <virnik> Minnozz: just copy over
[13:50] <Minnozz> virnik: any options needed in the copy screen?
[13:50] <virnik> and you will have feisty look and working hotkeys
[13:51] <virnik> Minnozz: overwrite
[13:51] <virnik> all
[13:51] <Minnozz> dive into subdir if exists?
[13:51] <virnik> if you like new gutsy look, then you will have to download kmilo again, for gutsy this time, and select two files from it to copy over
[13:51] <virnik> so, I will tell you once you have working this solution
[13:52] <virnik> Minnozz: just overwrite all
[13:52] <Minnozz> virnik: done =)
[13:52] <virnik> oh crap
[13:53] <temp_> hi
[13:53] <virnik> second CD burned by K3B is carbaged too
[13:53] <virnik> from time of upgrade to gutsy, I am fixing problems every day
[13:53] <virnik> i am tired of this all
[13:53] <virnik> virnik@Crusader:~$ mount /mnt/dvdrw/
[13:53] <virnik> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[13:53] <virnik>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[13:54] <virnik> dont know what is causing it, and it slows me down
[13:54] <Minnozz> virnik: do I need to 'reboot' kmilo now?
[13:54] <Minnozz> s/reboot/reload
[13:54] <virnik> I need that iso burned, cos I will fm -fr /dev/hda on older desktop, and install fres gutsy on it
[13:54] <virnik> Minnozz: dont need any
[13:54] <virnik> just hit your hotkeys
[13:55] <Minnozz> hmm... SIGSEGV... can't be good xD
[13:55] <virnik> Minnozz: but you can restart kmilo too
[13:55] <virnik> wait a while, I will take a look on it
[13:55] <Minnozz> ok =)
[13:55] <virnik> you have forgotten something I think
[13:56] <dimsum> any link for an step by step instruction to install compiz fusion in kubuntu gutsy, my vcard is ati x300.
[13:56] <Minnozz> I went to /CONTENTS on the left panel, / on the right and copied /usr from left to right
[13:57] <virnik> Minnozz: hah
[13:57] <virnik> i got it
[13:57] <virnik> you have to copy only /usr/lib/ from it
[13:57] <virnik> neverming
[13:57] <virnik> nevermind
[13:57] <virnik> just download kmilo again, for gutsy
[13:57] <virnik> overwrite again
[13:57] <virnik> and then try again
[13:57] <virnik> it works
[13:57] <ubuntu> where is the spanish kubuntu chanel??
[13:58] <virnik> i know that, cos I have it working this way
[13:58] <bazhang> !es
[13:58] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[13:58] <ubuntu> thanks!
[13:58] <virnik> Minnozz: or try to restart kmilo service
[13:58] <Alloosh> hi, is there a program to change DVDs to AVI (movies)
[13:58] <bazhang> cheers!
[13:58] <Ace2016> Alloosh: yes, dvdrip
[13:59] <Minnozz> virnik: I'll try to restart first, just `kmilo` ?
[13:59] <ksivaji> virnik my system is not working properly after distro-upgrade
[13:59] <Alloosh> Ace2016: is it the same as Acidrip?
[13:59] <ksivaji> virnik knetworkmanager and udev takes much cpu and Ram
[13:59] <ksivaji> virnik screwing my system here
[14:00] <Ace2016> Alloosh: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/
[14:00] <thedrs> hi ppl, is there a correlation between [k]ubuntu releases and linux kernel versions ?
[14:01] <Minnozz> !nl
[14:01] <ubot3> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[14:01] <Qrawl> Kubuntu is released every 6 months
[14:01] <dimsum> any link for an step by step instruction to install compiz fusion in kubuntu gutsy, my vcard is ati x300.
[14:01] <ksivaji> Qrawl not kubunt  its update
[14:02] <Qrawl> ??
[14:02] <Jucato> thedrs: no direct correlation. Ubuntu uses the kernel version that is released as stable during the development phase
[14:02] <Qrawl> Kubuntu has the exact same release cycle as Ubuntu
[14:04] <Minnozz> virnik: how do I restart the kmilo service?
[14:04] <thedrs> jucato: so if i have version conflicts between my nvidia kernel module and my nvidia client versions, i can try to use a newer kernel in my exisiting (7.10) ubuntu ?
[14:05] <Jucato> thedrs: you can... although I'm not sure that will solve the problem . I don't think the problem is with the kernel but with your nvidia package... how are you trying to install the nvidia drivers?
[14:05] <thedrs> no
[14:06] <thedrs> when i upgraded to 7.10, my restricted drivers broke
[14:06] <Jucato> thedrs: how did you install it in 7.04?
[14:06] <Jucato> Minnozz: System Settings -> Advanced -> Service Manager. you'll see KMilo in the list of Startup Services
[14:06] <thedrs> i am using 2.6.20-16, so maybe 2.6.22-14 has a newer module
[14:07] <dimsum> anyone running compiz fusion in kubuntu gutsy?
[14:07] <Minnozz> Jucato: thanks, found it =)
[14:07] <Jucato> thedrs: the default kernel in Gutsy is 2.6.22-14... have you tried booting into that kernel?
[14:07] <brotherz-Temp> grafic mask for root server?
[14:07] <thedrs> Jucato: i installed it the wrong way at first using automatix and then i reset everything and installed it the correct way with help from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-effects channels
[14:08] <Nyle> dimsum: ask your real question
[14:08] <thedrs> Jucato: i have tried that kernel before it didn't work "out of the box" - it made the screen "hazy"
[14:08] <Jucato> strange...
[14:09] <virnik> Minnozz: i think it dont need to restarted
[14:09] <Minnozz> virnik: It already works
[14:09] <thedrs> Jucato: i am gona try it again - c ya later - thanks
[14:09] <virnik> Minnozz: so, is it ok?
[14:09] <Minnozz> virnik: It crashed the first time, but I restarted it and it works now
[14:09] <virnik> Minnozz: have your keys fixed?
[14:09] <Minnozz> but I indeed like the new look more
[14:09] <Minnozz> virnik: yes they work ^^
[14:10] <virnik> Minnozz: nice. so, do it again
[14:10] <ron1n> hey guys, I'm trying to upgrade to gutsy gibbon, all goes fine until it has to prepare to upgrade, and I get "Error during the upgrade: This is usually some wort of network problem, please check your network connection and try again, meanwhile I have access to the internet fine and apt-get works as well
[14:10] <virnik> download gutsy package
[14:10] <virnik> kmilo
[14:10] <virnik> for same architecture u r using
[14:10] <Minnozz> virnik: done
[14:10] <virnik> so, i386
[14:10] <virnik> fine
[14:10] <virnik> now, open it, and fined two files
[14:10] <virnik> they r in /usr/lib
[14:11] <virnik> its name is libkmilo
[14:11] <juan> hi all, everytime i log into my session, all the applications i had in the previous session load, regardless if i had finished them before i logged out, how do i do so that it doen't do that
[14:11] <ron1n> is there anyway I can upgrade using apt from the command line? that seems to work fine, adept seems to be the issue
[14:11] <virnik> ignore them
[14:11] <virnik> Minnozz: ignore them, and continue to kde3 directory
[14:11] <virnik> there will be four files
[14:11] <Minnozz> virnik: yes I see them
[14:12] <virnik> copy kded_kmilod.la and so
[14:12] <virnik> over yours already installed ones
[14:12] <virnik> nothing else!
[14:12] <virnik> kmilo will do not need restart
[14:12] <virnik> cos this files are only for OSD look
[14:13] <virnik> after successfull copy-overwrite, try your hotkeys
[14:13] <virnik> they will work, and what else - OSD will have gutsy look
[14:13] <virnik> enjoy
[14:13] <Minnozz> virnik: another crash, but after restart the OSD is gutsy-style =D
[14:13] <Minnozz> virnik: thanks a lot!
[14:13] <virnik> Minnozz: sure, it will crash...cos they are different
[14:13] <virnik> but after restart of service, everything will work flawlessly
[14:13] <virnik> glad to help
[14:14] <virnik> Minnozz: Cheers
[14:14] <juan> anyone? how to make kubuntu not load all the programs from previous sessions?
[14:15] <Minnozz> virnik: Do you know of a way to decrease the 'step size' when you change the volume?
[14:15] <jonasp> Hey, does OpenPGP with KMail work out of the box if you upgraded from feisty?
[14:15] <Nyle> juan: looks like you need to go to kcontrol > kde components > session manager >
[14:16] <JohnFlux> how do I change the keyboard layout in the console?
[14:18] <Ace2016_> can i just ask, was ubuntu 7.10 renamed from gusty to gutsy or what?
[14:18] <juan> Nyle i fail to see Kcontro, where is it?
[14:18] <Ace2016_> was there a vote to pick the name of the new ubuntu release? is it really calld hardy?
[14:18] <ron1n> guys, whenever I try to upgrade to gutsy using adept, I get this message "A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry. " but I can access the internet fine
[14:18] <Nyle> juan: hmm oh yeah kubuntu has sytem settings
[14:19] <Nyle> juan: alt+f2, then type in kcontrol
[14:19] <Ace2016_> nope
[14:19] <Ace2016_> who will that work? is kcontrol a command line app?
[14:19] <ron1n> Ace2016_: Kcontrol is graphical
[14:20] <Ace2016_> you'd at least have to use X & DISPLAY=:0 kcontrol or DISPLAY=:0 kcontrol
[14:20] <juan> ok
[14:20] <Nyle> juan: or System Settings > Advanced Tab > Advanced User Settings > Session manager
[14:20] <Nyle> man its so much easier just to use kcontrol , I hate this new system settings app
[14:20] <Nyle> argh.
[14:20] <Ace2016_> oh i read that as ctrl+alt+f2
[14:20] <Ace2016_> lol
[14:20] <Ace2016_> yea i like kcontrol too
[14:21] <iobelisk> hi, this is not kubuntu related, but at the ubuntu forum i had a question that i'd been trying the past hour or so for somebody to answer, when nobody did i did a "!ops" so i could ask an op for help, one of them responded, i asked my question, and now i'm suddenly banned from there? what the heck, is there any way to get back into there?
[14:21] <virnik> Minnozz: no, I do not know
[14:21] <Nyle> kde4 will not use kcontrol anymore
[14:21] <juan> i already did it in kcontrol, thaks
[14:21] <Nyle> so I might as well get used to it
[14:22] <edenbeast> JohnFlux: with loadkeys <path to keymap>
[14:22] <Nyle> juan: I select manually saved session
[14:22] <Tm_T> iobelisk: #ubuntu-ops
[14:22] <Nyle> juan: that way I can save the session as it is and reload it
[14:22] <iobelisk> tm_T, thanks
[14:22] <juan> but why is kcontrol not in my Kmenu?????????????
[14:22] <Nyle> juan: dcop ksmserver ksmserver saveCurrentSession
[14:22] <Tm_T> juan: you have it installed?
[14:22] <virnik> kcontrol is cool
[14:22] <Nyle> juan: becuase ubuntu modifies kde too much
[14:23] <virnik> I am used to it, and I like it much more than new system
[14:23] <juan> i was able to run it
[14:23] <edenbeast> JohnFlux: but I think sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-tools will do the job as well and probably easier
[14:23] <Nyle> juan: if you add the settings kicker applet to panel, you can have kcontrol's menus/options in a dropdown button
[14:23] <virnik> me too
[14:23] <Nyle> type deal
[14:23] <Ace2016_> how come ubuntu modifies the stuff that really don't need changing:
[14:23] <Ace2016_> ?
[14:23] <juan> ok, will do that, thanks nyle
[14:23] <Ace2016_> i mean why modify kcontrol?
[14:23] <Nyle> its like microsoft
[14:23] <virnik> it looks like my dvd burner do not like philips medias
[14:23] <Nyle> they think they know what users want
[14:24] <Nyle> kcontrol is not modified
[14:24] <Nyle> it is being deprecated by upstream soon
[14:24] <JohnFlux> edenbeast: thanks - works great :)
[14:24] <Ace2016_> my laptop there was no support for multimedia keys like in gnome, gnome had a nice volume icon with a bar that showed the sournd level, and kde didn't
[14:25] <Nyle> Ace2016_: run kmix
[14:25] <Ace2016_> the same for the backlight intensity
[14:25] <Nyle> it will give a speaker icon in systray, clck it and out pops a volume bar
[14:25] <Nyle> you can use mousewheel on just the kmix systray icon to up/down the volume too
[14:25] <Nyle> and look through kicker applets
[14:26] <Nyle> you'll find  some sound controlelrs
[14:26] <Ace2016_> Nyle: i did, it did now show a nice thing that shows the volume level when changing the sound level, i had to use xbindkeys, xmodmap and kmix to get it to work
[14:26] <Nyle> and there is always support for multimedia keys
[14:26] <Nyle> check out "keytouch"
[14:26] <virnik> Ace2016_: just ask Minnozz, I helped him to make it work
[14:27] <Nyle> keytouch is a program which allows you to easily configure and define the EXTRA keys on your Multimedia/Internet ready keyboard with absolute ease.  Get those keys working now! http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/about.html
[14:27] <virnik> Ace2016_: it is problem by kmilo package
[14:27] <virnik> Ace2016_: it is problem of kmilo package
[14:27] <virnik> just overwrite files of kmilo in gutsy by files from feisty kmilo package
[14:28] <Ace2016_> was that installed by default?
[14:28] <Ace2016_> but its not an ibm thinkpad
[14:29] <Minnozz> Ace2016_: kmilo works for my Logitech keyboard too
[14:29] <Ace2016_> does it have skins support?
[14:30] <Minnozz> Ace2016_: it's only an OSD
[14:30] <Ace2016_> yea so it should look cool
[14:30] <Minnozz> Ace2016_: there are two skins
[14:31] <Minnozz> Ace2016_: feisty look (ugly) and gutsy look (nice)
[14:31] <rickey> can one use 3 1/2 floppy,s in linux nooowdays
[14:31] <Ace2016_> yae true gutsy did look a lot nicer than feisty
[14:31] <Ace2016_> rickey: yea sure you can use them
[14:32] <Minnozz> Ace2016_: I'll show you a screenshot
[14:32] <rickey> what,s the prossess
[14:33] <eagles0513875> im back guys
[14:33] <Ace2016_> wb
[14:33] <rickey> ace how is it done
[14:34] <rickey> it isnnt like windows you cant just drag and drope
[14:35] <Minnozz> Ace2016_: http://xs120.xs.to/xs120/07430/kmilo.png
[14:35] <Ace2016_> oh i wanted to make a theme for something more graphical
[14:36] <byewindows> Hello, I have a strange message with Amarok. In french : "Amarok ne peut actuellement pas ouvrir les fichiers MP3."
[14:36] <rickey> hey ace are you going to adress my question
[14:37] <byewindows> what can I do please? I have delete my old Amarok's configuration but it is not better
[14:37] <Minnozz> byewindows: did you install libxine?
[14:38] <Ace2016_> Minnozz: what i wanted to do was theme it to look like this: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mobile/display/asus-r1f_5.html
[14:38] <Minnozz> byewindows: sudo apt-get install libxine1-plugins
[14:38] <byewindows> Minnozz: i   libxine1-plugins
[14:38] <byewindows> installed
[14:38] <Minnozz> Ace2016_: aah, I don't think that's easily possible
[14:38] <byewindows> I have the metapaquet kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:39] <byewindows> installed
[14:39] <byewindows> too
[14:39] <Minnozz> byewindows: did you try different mp3's ?
[14:39] <byewindows> Minnozz: yes, they can't be encued
[14:39] <ardchoille> byewindows: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:40] <byewindows> libxine1-ffmpeg is installed too :\
[14:40] <Minnozz> byewindows: I had that problem too, but libxine1-plugins fixed it
[14:40] <Ace2016_> yea i was thinking of say an animated gif as a background then like mplayer themes having predefined steps with static png files and as you increase the brightness it just goes to the next image in the series
[14:40] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: im having a problem i need a wma decoder have the w64codecs installed and still no decoder in amarok
[14:41] <byewindows> libxinerama1 libxine1-plugins libxine1-gnome libxine1-ffmpeg libxine1-consolelibxine1libxine-extracodecs are installed
[14:41] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: I don't use wma/wmv files or amarok
[14:42]  * Ace2016_ is learning to program :D
[14:42] <eagles0513875> i have them all installed soundkonverter isnt finding a wma encoder so its not allowing me to convert songs to flac and amarok keeps saying that there is no wma decoder
[14:42] <eagles0513875> Ace2016_: what language
[14:42]  * Ace2016_ will make it
[14:42] <Ace2016_> i have no idea, i missed the first day of the course, i think its C++
[14:42]  * Minnozz only knows php\
[14:42] <ardchoille> Ace2016_: lol
[14:42] <eagles0513875> im learning java tm
[14:43] <eagles0513875> way to go ace
[14:43] <eagles0513875> anyone able to help me with my wma encoder issue in sound converter and no wma codec in amarok when i have the w64codecs installed
[14:44] <eagles0513875> i have every codec pkg imaginable at least that i know of and yet they r still not working
[14:45] <Ace2016_> what engine is amarok using? the xine engine?
[14:45] <eagles0513875> Ace2016_: ya
[14:45] <eagles0513875> anyone know much about sound konverter
[14:46] <illuminatus> hmm... you have to use 64-codecs?
[14:48] <illuminatus> anyone here experiencing problems with wlan under kubuntu 7.10 ?
[14:48] <illuminatus> (seems more instable then under 7.4 to me...)
[14:48] <eagles0513875> illuminatus: i am using w64codecs
[14:49] <illuminatus> yes, but do you have to? why not user w32?
[14:49] <eagles0513875> illuminatus: im using kubuntu 64
[14:50] <eagles0513875> anyone using 64bit kubuntu
[14:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> are there any problems with upgrading 7.04 to 7.10 with adept?
[14:54] <Eartaker> I try to install kubuntu and all I get is what looks like a command prompt but when I goto type there is nothing showing up on the scree.... anyideas?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[14:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> Eartaker, it might be that the xorg.config file default is not compatible with your card.
[14:55] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: u think u can help me out
[14:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> Press ALT+CTRL+F2 and tell me if you get a login prompt.
[14:55] <GuHHH> gundam_rx78nt1: i would suggest you to install it fully from zero
[14:55] <BluesKaj> hey eagles0513875, how are you ? ...yes I'll try to help , what's up ?
[14:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> GuHHH, I was afraid of getting that answer.
[14:56] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: in sound konverter i have lame flac and all that stuff even the w64codecs but for some reason soundkonverter doesnt wanna convert my audio and if it does the output file is 0b
[14:56] <HighHo> eagles0513875: do you have the package libxine-extracodecs installed?
[14:56] <alesan> is Qt 4.x installed by default on kubuntu, and the livecd?
[14:56] <GuHHH> gundam_rx78nt1: i tried upgrading it and it messed everything up
[14:56] <GuHHH> :P
[14:57] <eagles0513875> im using gutsy seems the name for tha tpkg has changed HighHo
[14:57] <eagles0513875> i have the libxine1-ffmpeg installed
[14:57] <BluesKaj> ok eagles0513875, lemme check ...I havent tried soundkonverter since switching to gutsy 64bit
[14:57] <eagles0513875> i just upgraded last night to gutsy 64 from feisty 64
[14:58] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: in the mean time im going to be right near my computer doing math hw
[14:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:59] <BluesKaj> yeah eagles0513875 , gotta confess I don't have any music on the HDD so I'll have to copy some songs from cd
[15:00] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i have 12gb of music i need to convert other wise its sitting here taking up space for nothign lol
[15:00] <BluesKaj> flac/lossless ?
[15:01] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: ya from wma
[15:01] <BluesKaj> need to replicate what yer trying to do
[15:01] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: they r all in wma losless format
[15:01] <eagles0513875> want to convert to flac
[15:02] <BluesKaj> right
[15:03] <BluesKaj> hmmm, don't have any wma , eagles0513875
[15:03] <eagles0513875> can u convert to wma it doesnt have to be lossless
[15:04] <Tm_T> BluesKaj <3
[15:05] <eagles0513875> anyone else running a 64bit system that is willing to try something out and has music on their machine
[15:07] <rickey>  mount t ext2/dev/fd0/floppy
[15:07] <rickey> mount: mount point ext2/dev/fd0/floppy does not exi
[15:07] <rickey> what do you think mit be wrong
[15:08] <rickey> anyone?
[15:08] <Lynoure> rickey: your path looks weird
[15:08] <Lynoure> you need space between ext2 and /dev
[15:09] <Lynoure> and - before t
[15:09] <eagles0513875> has any one programmed with eclipse before
[15:09] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: yes, but that's prolly not your real question...
[15:09] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, there's no wma convert to option , so what is your final codec ?
[15:10] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: im learning java and in my class but we r only using java source files what do i open instead of a whole project just to create a java source file
[15:10] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: flac
[15:12] <rickey> mount-t ext2/-dev/fd0/floppy
[15:12] <rickey> -su: mount-t: command not found
[15:12] <eagles0513875> instead of su use sudo rickey
[15:12] <ardchoille> rickey: You need spaces
[15:12] <rickey> how should it be writen?
[15:12] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: File -> New -> File (or Class)
[15:12] <ardchoille> rickey:  sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
[15:13] <intExDK> I fucked up my X-server Settings, can somebody help me?
[15:13] <ardchoille> !ohmy
[15:13] <ubot3> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[15:13] <rickey> mount-t ext2/-dev/fd0/floppy
[15:13] <rickey> -su: mount-t: command not found
[15:13] <ardchoille> rickey: You need spaces
[15:13] <Lynoure> rickey: mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0/floppy
[15:13] <rickey>  rickey:  sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
[15:13] <rickey> ok ill try this
[15:14] <Goodgame> is it dangerous for me if someone knows my ip adress?
[15:14] <ekrengel> does anyone know how i could get an HD movie to play sound in kaffeine?  the audio plays in VLC media player, but the video is coppy...in Kaffiene it plays fine but there is no sound...
[15:14] <ekrengel> its a .mvk
[15:14] <ardchoille> Goodgame: on a default Kubuntu install, no
[15:14] <Lynoure> Goodgame: you cannot hide it from everyone if you want to network at all.
[15:14] <rickey>  rickey:  sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
[15:14] <rickey> -su: rickey:: command not found
[15:14] <rickey> root@hom-computer:~#
[15:14] <ekrengel> err .mkv
[15:14] <HighHo> intExDK: you can generate a new xorg.conf by running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:14] <Goodgame> so it's not dangerous?
[15:15] <Lynoure> rickey: Are you kidding? Leave your nickname out of the command
[15:15] <ardchoille> Lynoure: lol
[15:15] <Goodgame> I don't understand
[15:15] <ardchoille> Goodgame: no, it's not dangerous. You can't really hide it anyway
[15:15] <eagles0513875> ty Lynoure
[15:16] <Lynoure> Goodgame: It's like post address: really hard to get post without sharing it with some people
[15:16] <Goodgame> ardchoille: why should I hide it if it's no dangerous?
[15:16] <Lynoure> Goodgame: but wrong people can try to deliver something unpleasant, but it's not normally very risky
[15:16] <ardchoille> Goodgame: This is one of the reasons we sue sudo and the root account is locked.
[15:16] <pay> hello
[15:16] <ardchoille> s/sue/use/
[15:17] <Goodgame> so there's no problem to put it on a forum?
[15:17] <ardchoille> Goodgame: Don't worry about hiding it
[15:17] <pay> i closed my window bar and now i am too stupid to activate it again i can only find the external window bar
[15:17] <pay> could somebody please help me?
[15:17] <Lynoure> Goodgame: you can hide it if you wish, if it is not relevant information
[15:17] <ardchoille> pay: window bar?
[15:18] <pay> the bar which shows me the windows of the programs
[15:18] <Lynoure> Goodgame: x.x.x.x is often used notation to "this ip is none of your business"
[15:18] <rickey> root@hom-computer:~# sudo mount -t ext2/dev/fd0/floppy
[15:18] <rickey> root@hom-computer:~#
[15:18] <Lynoure> rickey: that means it mounted. :)
[15:18] <ardchoille> rickey: You need spaces
[15:18] <rickey> ok this is where i should be ? rigth
[15:19] <pay> in german its called fensterleiste
[15:19] <pay> @ ardchoille
[15:19] <ardchoille> rickey: that comand shouldn't have worked
[15:19] <BluesKaj> sorry eagles0513875 , theredoesn't seem to be a convert to flac option listed , altho it's listed as a plugin ...dunno if i can help :(
[15:19] <Lynoure> ardchoille: I think he is kidding...
[15:19] <ardchoille> Lynoure: ah, ok
[15:19] <rickey> no i am not
[15:19] <rickey>  i am new to this
[15:19] <ardchoille> sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
[15:19] <rickey> trying to leran
[15:19] <ardchoille> rickey: ^^
[15:19] <rickey> lean
[15:20] <pay> :(
[15:20] <rickey> i got a ph call brb
[15:20] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: in soundkonverter there is take a look under losless
[15:20] <eagles0513875> Lynoure:
[15:20] <ardchoille> rickey: sudo (root ability) mount (the command) -t ext2 (the file system type) /dev/fd0 (the device) /floppy (the mount point)
[15:20] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: r there any other java compilers
[15:20] <eagles0513875> cuz im finding eclipse to be rather complicated
[15:20] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: Eclipse in IDE, not a java compiler
[15:21] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: you can use same javac on command line if you wish
[15:21] <darolinnho> hello everybody
[15:21] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: i have a program that we use in uni but for some reason with wine it locks up and crashes wine
[15:22] <darolinnho> can you help me to install skype on kubuntu==?
[15:22] <rickey> i am trying to learn how to use my floppy drive to save info
[15:22] <ardchoille> !skype
[15:22] <ubot3> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[15:22] <ardchoille> sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
[15:22] <ardchoille> rickey: ^^
[15:22] <eagles0513875> where would i find the jdk in the linux heirarchy
[15:22] <ardchoille> rickey: Explanation: sudo (root ability) mount (the command) -t ext2 (the file system type) /dev/fd0 (the device) /floppy (the mount point)
[15:22] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: this is not really an kubuntu problem.. you really don't need wine for eclipse, nor for java developement
[15:23] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: im using a different program that si a winblows based one
[15:23] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: some windows programs are like that.
[15:24] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: not everything runs smoothly under wine. I'd recommend using native tools.
[15:24] <ardchoille> eagles0513875 , Lynoure: the compiler doesn't really matter does it? Just the java source files?
[15:24] <Lynoure> ardchoille: indeed.
[15:24] <ardchoille> ok
[15:24] <eagles0513875> ardchoille, Lynoure are there any other ide options
[15:25] <rickey> ok ardchoille i printed out that info you gave me
[15:25] <rickey> ok now how do i un mount
[15:25] <ardchoille> rickey: sudo umount /dev/fd0
[15:26] <eagles0513875> im confused in eclipse what would i have to use to create a .java file
[15:26] <BluesKaj> yes eagles0513875 , you can convert FROM FLAC to other codecs , but not TO FLAC ...my output options list only "au & wav".
[15:26] <rickey> after i have mounted how do i put info on the floppy
[15:27] <eagles0513875> damn it
[15:27] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: any other converters i could try
[15:27] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: cuz in edgy and feisty was able to convert to flac
[15:27] <BluesKaj> audiokonverter might do the trick
[15:27] <ardchoille> rickey: You can use "cp" in a terminal and copy data to /floppy or you can drag and drop in your file manager
[15:27] <ardchoille> !bash | rickey
[15:27] <ubot3> rickey: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[15:28] <lovre> how to i change permision to a whole tree of files and folders to the end of depth?
[15:28] <lovre> i do chown me:me * but i only changes owner for files on the first level
[15:28] <ardchoille> lovre: chown -R  or chmod -R
[15:28] <Lynoure> eagles0513875:  I don't normally code in java anymore, so I don't know. Google probably can tell you some. Commandline tools are fine too.
[15:28] <llutz> lovre: chown/chmod  -R
[15:28] <BluesKaj> the FLAC output is listed in the plugins but not the output optrions ...I don't get it ?
[15:28] <lovre> thank you
[15:28] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: im still learning java so an ide is quite useful
[15:28] <eagles0513875> at least in my case
[15:29] <darolinnho> thanks
[15:29] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i cant find that pkg
[15:30] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: which package?
[15:30] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: If you want to learn one, Eclipse is really as close to an industry standard as you can get, so well worth learning despite the initial confusion if you plan to code for living.
[15:30] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: im a computing and info systems major lol
[15:30] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: audiokonverter
[15:30] <lovre> how to see what mod is a file in?
[15:31] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: I don't see it in the repos at all
[15:31] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12608
[15:32] <ardchoille> lovre: mod?
[15:33] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: got a question i open up a blank text file and it wants to save it as a project
[15:33] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: how can i change that
[15:35] <juan> hi, i have another problem, after going telling the session manager in kcontrol >kcomponents to start with a new session, my volume meter/manager has dissapeared from my panel...how do i restore it?
[15:36] <ardchoille> juan: right click the panel, choose "Add applet to panel", find the sound mixer and add it
[15:37] <Jucato> ardchoille: actually, that's not it :)
[15:37] <Jucato> juan: K Menu -> Multimedia -> KMix
[15:37] <ardchoille> Jucato: Oh, he meant the tray
[15:37] <Jucato> ardchoille: most people can't tell the difference :D
[15:37] <ardchoille> Jucato: ah
[15:38] <Jucato> (but there's only one default volume icon/manager, and that's kmix)
[15:38] <ardchoille> Jucato: Also, will he need to add an item to autostart to have it start on login?
[15:38]  * Jucato nods
[15:38] <Jucato> juan: when you set KDE to start from a new session, it really starts a new blank session. if you want to autostart kmix, you need to make a link to it in the ~/.kde/Autostart/ folder
[15:38] <Jucato> !autostart | juan
[15:38] <ubot3> juan: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[15:38] <lovre> any1 here uses Smarty? What you think of it...?
[15:39] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: it's an IDE, it deals in projects...
[15:39] <ardchoille> Jucato: Glad you caught that
[15:39] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: for individual file it's all the same whether you use commandline tools, IDE adds very little to that small projects
[15:40] <Jucato> ardchoille: have you tried adding the Sound Mixer panel applet? :D
[15:40] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: but, I gotta focus on other things now. I'm sure you'll manage.
[15:40] <ardchoille> Jucato: No, I just knew that applet was in there
[15:40] <Jucato> ardchoille: try it and behold :D
[15:40] <juan> juacto, what is the !autostart | juan
[15:41] <juan> jucato, what is the !autostart | juan
[15:41] <ardchoille> Jucato: UGH!
[15:41] <Jucato> juan: follow the instructions that the bot gave you if you want KMix to be started everytime you login
[15:41] <Jucato> ardchoille: :P
[15:41]  * ardchoille removes the sound mixer applet
[15:41] <ardchoille> Jucato: I'll never recommend that thing again
[15:41] <Jucato> ardchoille: good :)
[15:42] <Jucato> well actually recommend it for those who want something like it :)
[15:42] <ardchoille> ok
[15:42] <Jucato> but next time someone asks about the "volume control" on the panel... think "kmix" :D
[15:42] <ardchoille> Good lessen that
[15:42] <ardchoille> *lesson
[15:44] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me which folde ri can find the jdk in
[15:46] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: You mean the binary?
[15:46] <eagles0513875> cuz im running the ide that i use in my class running wine and it wants me to point it to the jdk
[15:47] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: im guessing so
[15:47] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Not sure it's what you want, but try this:  which jdk
[15:47] <eagles0513875> the latest one
[15:49] <eagles0513875> i have it installed i just need to know what directory its in ardchoille
[15:49] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: open a terminal and type this:  which jdk
[15:49] <eagles0513875> nothing comes up
[15:50] <ardchoille> Then the binary isn't named "jdk"
[15:50] <Dragnslcr> Try which sun-java6-jdk
[15:50] <Linusx> Will kwin-baghira run on an old G3 mac using dapper?
[15:50] <eagles0513875> nothing comes up
[15:50] <ardchoille> Linusx: I know kwin-baghira was available in dapper, but no idea about the G3
[15:51] <Linusx> ardchoille: I downloaded it, but it seems not to show up in any menu to try playing with it.   Where 'should' I be looking if it was there?
[15:53] <ardchoille> Linusx: kwin-baghira is a style and window border. Open kcontrol and go to Appearance & Themes > Style and see if it's in the dropdown box
[15:53] <Linusx> ardchoille: Would have thought 'system settings' someplace...
[15:53] <Linusx> ok
[15:53] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: i looked in adept and i have the java6 jdk installed
[15:54] <ardchoille> Linusx: It's probably in System Settings, but I hate that app and got rid of it
[15:55] <ardchoille> Linusx:  http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6007/window1vh6.png
[15:56] <thomas> i'm got a little bit of a problem, every time i open amarok now it freezes
[15:59] <Linusx> ardchoille: I take it that pic off your machine?
[15:59] <ardchoille> Linusx: yes, that shot was created minute ago
[16:01] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me which folder i can find the jdk
[16:02] <dabang> try /usr/lib/jvm
[16:03] <thomas> i'm got a little bit of a problem, every time i open amarok now it freezes
[16:04] <Linusx> ardchoille: What machine are you running it on?
[16:05] <ardchoille> eagles0513875:  dpkg-query -L package_name_here
[16:06] <ardchoille> Linusx: AMD Sempron 2800+, Kubuntu 7.10
[16:07] <ardchoille> Linusx: I would assume that, since that app was available in dapper, that the app can run on that G3 if dapper runs on it
[16:07] <Linusx> ardchoille: Unless Mac has a new line, I'm going to go out on a limb  and guess that's not one!  *grin
[16:08] <Linusx> ardchoille: That's what I would have thought too... but so far no joy.  (Not that I have any real idea wtf i'm doing on this system yet)
[16:08] <ardchoille> Linusx: Baghira isn't in the style page?
[16:09] <Linusx> ardchoille: no.  That's why I asked the 'stupid question' in case there was something obvious being overlooked
[16:09] <ardchoille> Linusx: You get that tutorial link I sent you?
[16:09] <ardchoille> oh, ok
[16:10] <Linusx> Yeah, got it!
[16:10] <Linusx> that should keep me busy a minute or two!  :P
[16:10] <ardchoille> Not much help, tho, if you can't get Baghira to work
[16:10] <hellhound> is there a way to to have mplayer put a new video in the playlist rather than open a new application if you open a video while another is playing?
[16:11] <ardchoille> hellhound: Add it to the playlist?
[16:13] <hellhound> ardchoille: yes for some reason if a video is playing and i open another video file, it creates a new instance of mplayer to play both videos at the same time.  I would rather it either add the second to the playlist or stop the first and play the second video
[16:14] <ardchoille> hellhound: right click the mplayer window, choose "playlist" and add the second vidoe to the playlist
[16:14] <rickey> hey ardchoille you still here
[16:15] <ardchoille> I've had that same complaint about mplayer for a while
[16:15] <ardchoille> rickey: yes
[16:15] <rickey> ok i have mounted the floppy dive
[16:15] <rickey>  but i cant figure out how to copy to it
[16:16] <ardchoille> rickey: You really should learn how to manipulate the file system from the command line
[16:16] <ardchoille> !bash | rickey
[16:16] <ubot3> rickey: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:16] <rickey> can yoou talk about it a little bit
[16:16] <hellhound> ardchoille: is there not another way?  I know that winamp worked the way i like it and I figured mplayer would have similar options
[16:16] <ardchoille> rickey: Bookmark that page, it's great
[16:17] <ardchoille> hellhound: I haven't found a way to do that in mplayer
[16:17] <eagles0513875> this is frustrating me
[16:17] <ardchoille> rickey: What you're wanting are the "cd" and "cp" commands
[16:19] <Doobi> Just to double check-- currently I have to run 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' when I reboot to get my wireless working.  To automate that, would I just add the line 'ndiswrapper' to /etc/modules?
[16:19] <ardchoille> rickey: When you mounted it, you remember the "/floppy" bit? That's the mount point, it's where the work is done when that volume is mounted.
[16:20] <francesco> hi guys. I have a question for you. I've installed Kubuntu 7.10 and everything works fine. I had big trouble with pptp and knetworkmanager. And the workaround found on Internet doesn't work for me. Have some some trick to show me ?
[16:20] <Linusx> ardchoille: Is there a Kubuntu equivalent to Mac's "System profiler"?
[16:20] <ardchoille> Linusx: What does that Mac app do?
[16:21] <ardchoille> Linusx: System > KInfoCenter   ?
[16:21] <Linusx> essentially tells you what RAM, Hardware, and other system info is on the specific machine
[16:21] <ardchoille> Linusx: yeah, kmenu > System > KInfoCenter
[16:21] <Linusx> starting it right now
[16:22] <Linusx> Hmmmm... not starting right
[16:22] <maverick_> i have a memory issue, i have 1GB RAM right now GUTSY is using 970 mb of it..am opening amarok ,amsn and firefox ...any ideas?!!
[16:22] <ardchoille> maverick_: I know that firefox has many memory leaks
[16:23] <maverick_> firefox doesn't affect it to that extent....i closed it and still the same
[16:23] <maverick_> i mean what the hell could be eating so much
[16:24] <ardchoille> amarok?
[16:24] <Tm_T> maverick_: how you are measuring memory usage
[16:25] <Linusx> ardchoille: This is one of a few things that has done this.  It just doesn't start up.  Can a reinstall be done without redoing the whole system?
[16:25] <Doobi> Also.. are you sure it's an issue--  Linux uses all that's available to it
[16:25] <Tm_T> Doobi: I'm getting in to it
[16:25] <francesco> can someone help me ?
[16:26] <ardchoille> Linusx: No idea about reinstalling apps, never needed to do it
[16:26] <eagles0513875> !ask
[16:26] <ubot3> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:26] <Tm_T> Linusx: you can click on adept to reinstall apps
[16:26] <francesco> pptp problems with knetworkmanager. Workaround doesn't work for me.
[16:27] <maverick_> Tm_T: Memeory: 960,452 KB used, 65,152 KB free.....also i can sense it amsn is blinking and takes while to load GUI when resizing...and stuff like that
[16:27] <maverick_> Tm_T: i see it in the processTable
[16:27] <Tm_T> maverick_: do "free -m" in Konsole and look -/+ line
[16:28] <Linusx> ardchoille: Click on app ==> Should start It'd think right?  Not like they reinvented the 'click' or something on linux! *grin
[16:28] <ardchoille> I don't think he's taking into account the buffers/cached stuff
[16:28] <maverick_> Tm_T: -/+ buffers/cache:        319        681
[16:28] <ardchoille> maverick_: ;)
[16:28] <maverick_> Tm_T: but then what's that written in processTable
[16:28] <maverick_> ??
[16:29] <Tm_T> maverick_: there you go, your system is using 320 M ram and rest for cache and buffers
[16:29] <tish> perdson kubutu spain
[16:29] <Tm_T> maverick_: total usage, you can ignore caches usually
[16:29] <maverick_> Tm_T: so caches thing doesn't affect performance ??
[16:29] <Tm_T> maverick_: well yes, positive effect =)
[16:30] <volodymyr> Кто с Рос?
[16:30] <Linusx> Tm_T: Kinfo doesn't show up on adept.  Is there a way to find the stuff needed online / on original disk?
[16:31] <eagles0513875> anyone know any alternate java ides that will allow u to crate a java source file and thats it instead of a whole project besides eclipse
[16:32] <ardchoille> maverick_: Here is a nice memory bash script: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/42018
[16:33] <DShepherd> eagles0513875, maybe netbeans?
[16:33] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: What's in a java source file? Can it be created in kate?
[16:33] <eagles0513875> yes but u need to compile it
[16:33] <ardchoille> ah
[16:33] <eagles0513875> basically its the code in the source file and then it creates a class file and runs
[16:34] <ardchoille> ok
[16:34] <eagles0513875> netbeans seems windows only
[16:34] <ardchoille> I was thinking that you may not need a full ide for that
[16:34] <trpr> well you could just use a regular old editor. i use vim for example. i'm reading that jEdit is considered powerfull enough to be considered an IDE tho
[16:34] <santzschies> hi!
[16:34] <Novell> hi, how do I use autoconf 2.50 ? I've tried WANT_AUTOCONF=2.5 autoconf, but that's still using 2.13 .. Do I really have to edit /usr/bin/autoconf and change ac213 to ac250 every time I want to use a different one ?
[16:35] <eagles0513875> trpr: where can i get jedit from
[16:36] <santzschies> hi, could somebody help me with compiz in gutsy??
[16:36] <trpr> eh, i googled. one sec. i'm going to research some more. maybe i can find something that is actually in the repos
[16:36] <epimeth> ahoy peeps :-)
[16:37] <eagles0513875> trpr: i googled it too
[16:37] <epimeth> !pptp
[16:37] <ubot3> Factoid pptp not found
[16:37] <eagles0513875> !compiz |santzchies
[16:37] <ubot3> santzchies: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:37] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: apt-cache search java | grep devel
[16:38] <eagles0513875> ?
[16:38] <steveire> nixternal: Hey, I just read your blog about space being unavailable on the kubuntu cd. What about the windows programs that are on it? firefox, openoffice etc. Are they still on there, and are they all still really useful to have there?
[16:38] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: ty found netbeans
[16:39] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: also you can grep other things or just remove the "| grep blah"
[16:39] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: :) ty i just learned something knew
[16:39] <ardchoille> yw :)
[16:40] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: That only searches the repos you currently have enabled
[16:40] <eagles0513875> which is pretty much all repos
[16:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[16:40] <ardchoille> lol
[16:40] <epimeth> !poptop
[16:40] <ubot3> Factoid poptop not found
[16:40] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: can u explain to me why in sourceomatic both the backports list and the supported and community supported pkgs source list is the same
[16:40] <gorf_> outputs, and one via unichrome, they seems to be reconized by the system, but when i try to start a second monitor in monitor and display, it says to restart x, x won t restart, can someone help?
[16:41] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: No idea, I've never used sourceomatic
[16:41] <eagles0513875> lol i emailed the guy whose i guess in charge of it
[16:42] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Sounds like a bug if those repos are identical
[16:42] <eagles0513875> i emailed the guy
[16:42] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: that was why yesterday i was getting duplicate sources
[16:42] <gorf_> i, i run kubuntu gutsy gibbon 7.1 i got 2 video cards , nvidia fx5200 with 2outputs, and one via unichrome, they seems to be reconized by the system, but when i try to start a second monitor in monitor and display, it says to restart x, x won t restart, can someone help?
[16:42] <gorf_> hi
[16:42] <eagles0513875> gorf_: u wont need the via one if the 5200 has duel output
[16:43] <epimeth> hrm... can someone help me set up a pptp server?
[16:43] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Well, backports will have the main restricted universe multiverse componenets just like the other repoz
[16:43] <eagles0513875> well the first source list if u look at it is identical
[16:43] <ardchoille> !easysource
[16:43] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[16:43] <gorf_> eagle : fine , but still the fx5200 still won t start the monitor
[16:44] <eagles0513875> gorf_: i have not tried that i should try the one on my laptop which im on but dont have another monitor
[16:44] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: I'm seeing what you mean
[16:45] <ardchoille> The "gutsy-backports" isn't the same as "gutsy universe multiverse"
[16:45] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, check out gnormalize , it's gtk based but it's supposed to convert to FLAC from most other formats
[16:45] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875,http://gnormalize.sourceforge.net/
[16:46] <eagles0513875> ty blues im taking a look at it
[16:47] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: There are four repos there: gutsy, gutsy-updates, gutsy-security, gutsy-backports. But all four repos will have the main, restricted, universe, and multiverse components
[16:48] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: its nice but wont recognize wma
[16:48] <lz1gjd> lz1gjd@Kubuntu710:~$ kdesu adept_manager
[16:48] <lz1gjd> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 28 19:40:27 2007
[16:48] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: ok but rnt they duplicats
[16:48] <lz1gjd> how do i fix that
[16:49] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: No, the "gutsy-security, universe" will have different packages than "gutsy-backports, universe"
[16:49] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: You have a kitchen in your house, but it's not the same as the kitchen in my house :)
[16:51] <Search4Lancer> big problem: for some reason, CPU frequency scaling is disabled on my laptop. As such, it runs full speed ahead, and overheats and shuts down very quickly. Basically makes my laptop inoperable.... help?
[16:52] <k5ubuntu> does anyone have  a mac os x theme with dock etc for kde
[16:54] <radius> kde-look.org
[16:54] <k5ubuntu> ok ill try that
[16:54] <epimeth> can someone help me set up a pptp server?
[16:55] <Minnozz> hey, my printscreen button doesn't work anymore. how can I activate it again?
[16:55] <Minnozz> !printscreen
[16:55] <ubot3> Factoid printscreen not found
[16:56] <user_> Can someone help me with ID3 Tags?
[16:56] <ardchoille> k5ubuntu: kwin-baghira is in the repos, here's a tutorial: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[16:56] <user_> Using EasyTag
[16:56] <arcelone> k pasa
[16:56] <arcelone> ajkajka
[16:56] <arcelone> aweona
[16:56] <arcelone> k vola pasa
[16:56] <arcelone> ken eri tx
[16:57] <ardchoille> arcelone: Please stop that
[16:57] <arcelone> djwod
[16:57] <arcelone> ajkaja
[16:57] <arcelone> llapo
[16:57] <arcelone> tu kapish spanish
[16:57]  * ardchoille drags out his ignore list
[16:57] <arcelone> eeee
[16:58] <eagles0513875> arcelone: este canale solo ingles por favor
[16:58] <ignoramus> i edited my songs to a particluar format: artist - track (simple), but now media players combine all info into "title"... no artists listed
[16:58] <eagles0513875> !es |arcelone
[16:58] <ubot3> arcelone: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:58] <aleph0> hello everyone!
[16:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> did you edit the tags or the filenames?
[16:58] <ignoramus> lemme see...
[16:59] <aleph0> I have the following KDE problem. whenever I re-login, the file ~/.kde3.5/share/mimelnk/video/divx.desktop gets re-set to default
[16:59] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: im installing world of warcraft but for some reason i cannot  eject the cdrom
[16:59] <ignoramus> Daiske: apparently both
[16:59] <mamonetti_> hi
[16:59] <k5ubuntu> what is a good dock for kubuntu like a mac looking dock
[16:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> in amarok, you can right-click and go to 'edit track information' and see what you've got there
[16:59] <sub[t]rnl>  kooldock, or ksmoothdock
[16:59] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: I don't use anything related to Windows OS or its apps
[16:59] <ignoramus> K5buntu- ksmoothdock
[16:59] <mamonetti_> anyone knows about the status of ati linux drivers after the last "opening movement" from amd? or simply where to get fresh information? t hx
[16:59] <k5ubuntu> go to adept and type in ksmoothdock?
[17:00] <ardchoille> k5ubuntu: kicker
[17:00] <k5ubuntu> kicker
[17:00] <ignoramus> Daisuke: will that edit the actual filenames (i generally use songbird)
[17:00] <TimS> !foo
[17:00] <ubot3> Factoid foo not found
[17:00] <TimS> :(
[17:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> ignoramus: no, edit track information in amarok is tag editing
[17:00] <aleph0> I cannot set KDE to open .divx files with kaffeine by default. whenever I re-login, the default player is set to totem again.
[17:01] <aleph0> how can I change this?
[17:01] <ignoramus> Daisuke: I'm not so good with this stuff yet- will that allow Songbird to recognize and separate Artist and Title again?
[17:01] <Kr4t05> Why is Amarok refusing to transfer Oggs to my media player when I've specified that that media player can play Oggs?
[17:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes
[17:01] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: could u tell me how to eject a cd in cl cuz i hit the button and it wont eject
[17:01] <sub[t]rnl> aleph0: kcontrol -> kde components -> file association
[17:01] <ignoramus> Daisuke: Thx i'll try it.
[17:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> Kr4t05: depends on if your media player's in mass storage or mtp mode
[17:01] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: eject /dev/<device>
[17:01] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Laptop: It
[17:01] <aleph0> sub[t]rnl: I do that, the problem is that the settings are changed back after every login!
[17:02] <Kr4t05> It's in Mass Storage, Amarok can't figure out my devices MTP.
[17:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah
[17:02] <aleph0> the file ~/.kde3.5/share/mimelnk/video/divx.desktop gets rewritten every time
[17:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> drag and drop?
[17:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> what player you have?
[17:02] <ignoramus> aleph0: or you can right-click any file>open with...> choose program and click "always open with this program"
[17:02] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Laptop: iAudio F2
[17:02] <aleph0> I know I know... but see what I wrote above...
[17:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> neat
[17:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> latest amarok finally supports mtp for my sansa e260
[17:03] <sub[t]rnl> aleph0: try setting the associtation with konqeuror
[17:03] <aleph0> after every login, the file registers as "Netscape DivXÂ® Web Player" and any changes I make aren't saved.
[17:03] <sub[t]rnl> konqueror*
[17:04] <gorf_> could someone help me start a 2nd monitor?
[17:05] <SpoZen> why do i have sound in amarok and kaffeine but not in vlc or any other app?
[17:05] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Laptop: Drag and drop would be great if I knew where Amarok hid my podcasts.
[17:05] <biovore> SpoZen: different sound backends
[17:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> Kr4t05: if they're in the default location, check /home/username/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts
[17:05] <biovore> arts, alsa, oss
[17:05] <SpoZen> how do i fix that then?
[17:06] <SpoZen> how do i know what xine uses?
[17:06] <Minnozz> what's the name of the KDE screenshot util?
[17:06] <biovore> xine I think is alsa or oss
[17:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> kscreenshot
[17:06] <ignoramus> Daisuke: In Amarok, I have to edit each tag individually???
[17:06] <Lawke> is KDE faster then gnome?
[17:06] <biovore> vlc I think uses oss
[17:06] <ardchoille> Minnozz: ksnapshot
[17:06] <biovore> Lawke: at start up no.. after start-up I find it to be faster..
[17:06] <Minnozz> ardchoille: thanks =)
[17:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> ignoramus: pretty much...  are they all named "artist - title"?
[17:07] <eagles0513875> has anyone used netbeans in here before
[17:07] <stefaans> ello all
[17:07] <Minnozz> my printscreen button doesn't work anymore
[17:07] <ignoramus> daisuke: no, they have all the proper information, but when imported to songbird, the info all shows up in the "title" field, and nothing in "artist"
[17:07] <SpoZen> thanks all i had to do was to edit alsa device list in vlc!! thanks alot guys!!
[17:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> so the right info is showing under the "arist" and "title" fields
[17:08] <stefaans> anyone here have issues with kopete?
[17:08] <gorf_> could someone help me start a 2nd monitor?
[17:08] <stefaans> mine keeps on crashing
[17:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...that's a problem with songbird then :\
[17:08] <sub[t]rnl> stefaans: update your kdelibs
[17:08] <ignoramus> daisuke: all the info (Artist - Title) is in the "Title" column... and the "Artist" column is now blank
[17:08] <trpr> eagles0513875: how's your IDE search going? im curious why not just use a text editor / java. are you working on a big project that requires all that IDE goodness? :)
[17:08] <stefaans> I am on gutsy and have tried to update, aptitude upgrade
[17:09] <trpr> eagles0513875: text editor / javac that is
[17:10] <ignoramus> daisuke: nothing is showing up in the "artist" field... it's all under the "title" field...
[17:11] <gio> hello
[17:11] <stefaans> gio: ello
[17:12] <gio> is there someone that speaks italian?
[17:12] <NickPresta> !it | gio
[17:12] <ubot3> gio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:12] <WaltzingAlong> umpo si
[17:12] <ardchoille> In konversation, how do I set myself away without sending an away message to every channel?
[17:12] <ignoramus> daisuke: i was worried about this, as amarok sorts normally
[17:12] <ignoramus> daisuke: here's the screenshot of songbird after editing tags: http://i24.tinypic.com/ami0.jpg
[17:12] <WaltzingAlong> ardchoille: /away reason
[17:12] <NickPresta> ignoramus, you can use the Music Brainz feature to tag your music. Of course, it has to be done manually though.
[17:13] <ardchoille> WaltzingAlong: ty
[17:13] <ignoramus> NickPresta: is that a Songbird add-on?
[17:14] <NickPresta> ignoramus, no, it's included with Amarok. I wasn't aware you wanted to tag the music in Songbird, sorry about that :)
[17:14] <lovre> where can i download GIMPshop*
[17:14] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[17:14] <Dr_willis> !find gimp
[17:14] <NickPresta> lovre, http://www.gimpshop.com/download.shtml
[17:14] <ubot3> Found: babygimp, cupsys-driver-gimpprint, flegita-gimp, foomatic-db-gimp-print, gimp-cbmplugs (and 38 others)
[17:14] <ignoramus> lovre: gimp.org
[17:14] <k5ubuntu> !find mac os x theme
[17:14] <ubot3> Found: acl2-emacs, aleph-emacs, bulmacont, cxref-emacs, dmachinemon (and 100 others)
[17:15] <Dr_willis> k5ubuntu,  the Bageria theme is os-x looking
[17:15] <Dr_willis> !find kwin
[17:15] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator, kwin-style-knifty (and 6 others)
[17:15] <k5ubuntu> yes i know
[17:15] <k5ubuntu> but it takes too long
[17:15] <k5ubuntu> i need something simple
[17:15] <Dr_willis> takes too long?
[17:15] <k5ubuntu> i want the dock, the icons, full system toolbars, etc
[17:15] <epimeth> can someone help me set up a pptp server?
[17:15] <NickPresta> kwin-baghira takes < 10 minutes assuming you have the iconset and such.
[17:16] <k5ubuntu> i have the close buttons
[17:16] <Dr_willis> You are not going to find a 'theme' that does all that.
[17:16] <NickPresta> k5ubuntu, awn for your dock, kwin-baghira for your theme, you need to find an iconset on kde-look.org and then you're pretty much done.
[17:17] <lovre> thank you :D
[17:17] <joher> helo
[17:18] <Dr_willis> Of course with compiz - theres a dozen os-x looking window decoratios you can set up in emerald.
[17:19] <Dr_willis> Dream Linux looks a  lot likd OS-X by default also
[17:19] <runlevelten> evenin'
[17:19] <WaltzingAlong> k5ubuntu: some work you do yourself
[17:20] <eagles0513875> trpr: im learning java and we use an ide at school
[17:21] <epimeth> okay... so lets rephrase... is pptpd enough to set up a secure VPN connection?
[17:23] <trpr> eagles0513875: ah. well personally i think that's silly. you can write the source files with any old editor, then compile them with javac yourfile.java. the ide is only good if you already know java
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> !info eclipse
[17:24] <ubot3> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 128 kB, installed size 420 kB
[17:24] <runlevelten> eclipse/emacs ftw.
[17:25] <runlevelten> the any old editor lifestyle is sure as hell going to suck when refactoring etc.
[17:25] <k5ubuntu> !find mac dock
[17:25] <ubot3> Found: acl2-emacs, aleph-emacs, bulmacont, cxref-emacs, dmachinemon (and 100 others)
[17:26] <lovre> can i use products under BSD licence for commercial purposes?
[17:26] <runlevelten> Damn, this computer's fast.
[17:26] <WaltzingAlong> trpr: it is silly
[17:26] <eagles0513875> trpr: i would think the other way round cuz at least the ide shows u where ur mistakes r
[17:26] <runlevelten> lovre: Yes.
[17:26] <gorf_> could someone help me start a 2nd monitor?
[17:26] <WaltzingAlong> !dual monitor
[17:26] <ubot3> Factoid dual monitor not found
[17:27] <Dr_willis> gorf_,  what video card?
[17:27] <eagles0513875> we need ubotu
[17:27] <gorf_> nvidia fx5200
[17:27] <gorf_> 2outputs
[17:27] <runlevelten> also, many IDEs offer visual instrospection through autocompletion, symbol browsers, project overviews and so on.
[17:27] <lovre> runlevelten: thanky ou
[17:27] <Dr_willis> gorf_,  install the nvidia drivers.  and enable twinview
[17:27] <trpr> eagles0513875: eh. it provides short cuts that are only good if you know what you are shortcutting around. the compiler will still tell you on what lines your errors are, and what they are.
[17:28] <k5ubuntu> !find update
[17:28] <ubot3> Found: ez-ipupdate, freepops-updater-fltk, hildon-update-category-database, nss-updatedb, update-apt (and 12 others)
[17:28] <k5ubuntu> !find ubuntu 7.10
[17:28] <ubot3> Found: blubuntu-gdm-theme, blubuntu-look, blubuntu-session-splashes, blubuntu-theme, blubuntu-wallpapers (and 75 others)
[17:28] <eagles0513875> trpr: so what ur saying is i coudl use emacs
[17:28] <runlevelten> lovre: ensure you carefully read and understand any copyright requirements.
[17:28] <trpr> yes. you could use whatever you feel most comfortable writing the code in
[17:29] <eagles0513875> trpr: i just downloaded this
[17:29] <eagles0513875> !jdee
[17:29] <ubot3> Factoid jdee not found
[17:29] <runlevelten> there may be a requirement to show logos or copyrights even though you can rebadge and sell the binaries without source.
[17:29] <k5ubuntu> !find jdee
[17:29] <ubot3> Package/file jdee does not exist in gutsy
[17:29] <eagles0513875> trpr: jdee is an addon for emacs which will allow me to write in java
[17:29] <lovre> runlevelten: ok, ill read everything
[17:29] <eagles0513875> thats not true found it in repo
[17:29] <gorf_> is there a way to restart X when logged in?
[17:30] <eagles0513875> gorf_: ctrl+alt+backspace
[17:30] <runlevelten> emacs = ide. good one, too.
[17:30] <Dr_willis> gorf_,  not really a way to restart X and Stay logged into X.
[17:30] <lovre> runlevelten: the thing is im trying to find suitable PHP RAD tool. Im looking at Seagull PHP Framework. Im hoping i can work with it and sell my work with no problems
[17:30] <joher> hello
[17:31] <eagles0513875> how do i check dependensies
[17:31] <runlevelten> rad tool, or framework?
[17:31] <eagles0513875> trpr: its jde
[17:31] <eagles0513875> !jde
[17:31] <k5ubuntu> how do i check what version of kbuntu i have
[17:31] <eagles0513875> :( there went out overworked bot
[17:31] <jorgy> hey all.. i want to upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 but i've heard that there's issues with the bootup? i.e it's 2-3 minutes now? and some friend told me they had to disable the splashscreen to boot at all?
[17:31] <WaltzingAlong> jorgy: takes mine 45 minutes
[17:32] <WaltzingAlong> !worksforme
[17:32] <Dr_willis> Mine takes about a min.
[17:32] <Dr_willis> i always disable splash anyway.
[17:32] <jorgy> Dr_willis: is that slower/faster than before?
[17:32] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: ubot3 left the room
[17:32] <Dr_willis> Ive not heard those specific complaints.
[17:32] <jorgy> Dr_willis: one sec. i'll get u links to online articles sayin that.
[17:32] <runlevelten> lovre: If you run the server you can use GPl'd stuff too and keep the source.
[17:32] <eagles0513875> how do i check for dependencies before i install a file from the repo
[17:33] <Dr_willis> jorgy,  not like the link will say much :) heh..
[17:33] <Dr_willis> jorgy,  i find it best to do a clean install in most cases also
[17:33] <runlevelten> Not that it's the right thing to do necessarily, but it's not a GPL <=2 violation.
[17:33] <jorgy> Dr_willis: well these are just comments i've picked up by lookin for kubuntu 7.10 reviews
[17:34] <jorgy> a repeating theme is that something's up with the bootup. one person puts it down to the restricted drivers thing..
[17:34] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: what is the cli command to check dependencies for a certain pkg
[17:34] <runlevelten> The decades haven't shown me an OS "upgrade" worth bothering with yet.
[17:34] <runlevelten> Except Debian, of course.
[17:35] <jorgy> i think i might chill with 7.04 and just update the kde
[17:35] <cybrhuman> do anyone know when HPET will be included in kubuntu kernel?
[17:41] <hellhound> i am having trouble getting a program (xbindkeys) to Autostart.  I have tried a link, bash script and copying the bin file to my Autostart directory, but it still will not autostart.  I can however go to my Autostart directory and double click it and it will start.  Any ideas?
[17:41] <Freddy2> can (*)ubuntu be installed in a system with only 2 (or more) disks in raid? i mean, no extra partitions outside the raid itself
[17:42] <Freddy2> what requirements in terms of raid controller are related to this? any list of directly supported models?
[17:43] <g2g591> freddy: id try asking in the forums (www.ubuntuforums.org)
[17:44] <Dr_willis> !find autostart
[17:44] <xavier__> hey
[17:44] <Dr_willis> hellhound,  use the fullpath to the binary in your scripts. start them with #!/bin/bash perhaps. And theres a kde-autostart tool that can help youmanage those things.
[17:45] <xavier__> got a questioN... I switched from ubuntu -> kubuntu by installing kubuntu-desktop. I encountered 1 problem:
[17:45] <xavier__> compiz doesn't show the top bar with the close, minimize, .. functions
[17:45] <blizzzek> is it possible in KPresenter to switch to a specific slide by entering it's pagenumber and pressing enter while presentation (as it is in OOo)? i only found out, that by pressing key a window opens where i can select it... but it is kinda pedestrian
[17:45] <arash> xavier__ you must download another package
[17:45] <xavier__> it did everything fine in gnome..
[17:45] <Freddy2> g2g591: ok, i will.. thx
[17:45] <Dr_willis> hellhound,  and DONT use the same name for a Autostart script as a command in the path. :)  ie: dont use 'Autostart/conky' for a script that starts 'conky'
[17:46] <xavier__> which one arash?
[17:46] <arash> xavier__ search for 'compiz' there is one with a descriptive name for what you need
[17:46] <hellhound> Dr_willis: what is the toold called?  by bash script has #!/bin/bash      then   /usr/bin/xbindkeys     it is also set as executable
[17:47] <xavier__> compiz was installed in gnome and it did right then.. by installing kubuntu-desktop, compiz doesn't do things right.. what do you mean by searching for compiz?
[17:47] <arash> xavier__: sorry, let met find the exact package :)
[17:47] <xavier__> oh, lol, ok
[17:47] <xavier__> thx
[17:48] <arash> !find compiz-kde
[17:48] <ubot3> Found: compiz-kde
[17:48] <arash> ok, that one
[17:48] <xavier__> hehe, thx :)
[17:48] <dope> what is /dev/sdb
[17:48] <xavier__> first uninstall compiz before installing compiz-kde?
[17:48] <arash> xavier__: I don't think that's neccesary, Im no expert though ;)
[17:49] <xavier__> "/dev/sdb could be a hard disk / usb device
[17:50] <xavier__> ok, let's try and install compiz-kde
[17:50] <xavier__> yeehaw
[17:50] <dope> xavier__: ok, i plugged in my pen drive and when i do fdisk i see /dev/sdb1 so i want to unmount it with umount /dev/sdb1 and now I can format /dev/sdb?
[17:51] <arash> xavier__: yeehaw= it works :p ?
[17:51] <xavier__> dope: yep, that sould work
[17:51] <dope> ./dev/sdb1 is just the first partition on /dev/sdb right?
[17:51] <xavier__> arash: yep :)
[17:51] <xavier__> yep dope. I don't have experience with partitioning usb-sticks though.. u should better ask an expert
[17:51] <dope> xavier__: also when i used umount on /dev/sdb1 it still shows up in fdisk. should it?
[17:51] <xavier__> I know it gives problems in windows (you won't be able to see all partitions in some cases)
[17:52] <xavier__> yep it should..
[17:52] <dope> ah ok
[17:52] <dope> thx
[17:52] <xavier__> np :)
[17:52] <dope> i just wanna make sure i'm not formatting the HD
[17:52] <xavier__> lol, that's good to be sure of :)
[17:53] <hermiod> hi there
[17:53] <arash> Hi Hermoid!
[17:53] <eagles0513875> has any one heard of ikvm
[17:53] <TimS> Are there any programs that will autmaticaly compile from source
[17:54] <TimS> !compile
[17:54] <ubot3> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[17:54] <hermiod> i got a question, about network with a windows xp computer an a kubuntu computer
[17:54] <TimS> !compilers
[17:54] <ubot3> Factoid compilers not found
[17:54] <hermiod> I'm new@linux
[17:55] <dope> doesn't seem to be working :\
[17:55] <TameLion> You missed the tld ;)
[17:56] <dope> when i use the mkdiskimage command it brings up how to use it
[17:56] <xavier__> arash: some things don't work yet :)
[17:56] <xavier__> such as the cube.. I can't let it spin / move around...
[17:56] <k5ubuntu> how do i find out what kubuntu verison i have
[17:56] <arash> !samba | hermoid
[17:56] <ubot3> hermoid: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[17:56] <hermiod> my problem is about the connection between winxp and kubuntu....  the ping works, but nothing else
[17:56] <arash> hermoid, Im not sure, but I think that is what you are looking for
[17:57] <k5ubuntu> how do i find out what version of kbuntu i have
[17:57] <user5> hi
[17:57] <sub[t]rnl> lsb_release -a
[17:57] <k5ubuntu> ty
[17:57] <pigeta> hi all
[17:58] <arash> xavier__: Yea, compiz unfortunately Camoens work as good with KDE, but I don't know if that is also for the cube rotation, I don't use compiz myself, so idle around till some compiz-fan joins, or ask  at
[17:58] <arash> !effects | xavier__
[17:58] <ubot3> Factoid effects not found
[17:59] <arash> !effect | xavier__
[17:59] <ubot3> Factoid effect not found
[17:59] <hermiod> I have read some how to's but it doesent work, i wrote the workgroupname in the smb.conf... when I open it in smb4k there is that workgroup but only the kubuntu computer
[17:59] <xavier__> oh, ok.. thx..
[17:59] <xavier__> I had it to work be4, it should be able to do it again :)
[18:00] <arash> xavier__: anyway, I don't know the factoid name, but check at #ubuntu-effects
[18:00] <xavier__> ok, thx arash.. (what's factoid.? :p)
[18:01] <arash> !factoid
[18:01] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:02] <TimS> !feed
[18:02] <ubot3> Factoid feed not found
[18:02] <TimS> :o
[18:02] <clor0x> ayo adria...
[18:02] <TimS> !eat
[18:02] <ubot3> Factoid eat not found
[18:02] <clor0x> !fish
[18:03] <ubot3> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.22.3-2 (gutsy), package size 804 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[18:03] <TimS> Adept is stuck updating packages, its waiting for headers
[18:03] <stdin> !botabusr > TimS
[18:03] <stdin> !botabuse > Tim
[18:03] <stdin> argg
[18:04] <hermiod> is there something I can check where the problem is? I got no idea
[18:04] <stdin> "don't abuse the bot"
[18:04] <TimS> :P Sorry stdin
[18:04] <neighborlee> hi  there :)(...Im considering using kubuntu more now..but im wondering .ubuntu  has the modified crash handler in kernel..when a kubuntu/kde app c rashes does it really send in the data or ask you if you want to or what ? ;)
[18:04] <aceta> good evening
[18:05] <aceta> does somebody happen to know how to use a gpg-encrypted keyfile on an usb stick with LUKS on boot ?
[18:08] <steveire> su - kde4-devel
[18:08] <steveire> Ugh. Oops
[18:09] <hermiod> nobody?
[18:09] <xavier__> what was that channel again? something like #desktop-effects
[18:10] <hermiod> k,  cya
[18:18] <yugge_> Here's a strange question, is there a way to send keyboard commands to a window using bash?
[18:19] <yugge_> or any commandline program would work acually
[18:20] <ardchoille> xavier__: #ubuntu-effects? It redirects to #compiz-fusion iirc
[18:21] <xavier__> yep, found it :)
[18:21] <xavier__> but yeh, I really messed up compiz now :p
[18:21] <xavier__> even re-installing compiz makes the same mess :(
[18:23] <xavier__> oh yeah, window decorator crashed :p
[18:27] <joher> hello
[18:27] <NickPresta> hi
[18:29] <joher>  i have some problems there's no sound
[18:29] <joher> in my system
[18:29] <FGS|Bret> installed sound drivers?
[18:30] <joher> everythings ok
[18:30] <FGS|Bret> rebooted since their install?
[18:30] <joher> yes
[18:31] <pestilence> in gutsy, firefox always comes to the front (although it technically doesn't get focus) when i click a link in akregator.  does anybody know how to stop this?
[18:31] <pestilence> it has never done this in any of the previous kubuntus
[18:32] <Pipone> need help with last ati drivers, can`t build .deb packeges from the installer
[18:32] <Pipone> anyone had same problem?
[18:32] <joher> yes
[18:32] <joher>  i don't have  sounds
[18:33] <Pipone> ?!: )
[18:33] <Pipone> am talking about video
[18:33] <Pipone> sudo bash ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy after this nothing happens
[18:33] <Pipone> error are missing libs that are not in repos
[18:33] <Pipone> and it`s looking for them in strange place
[18:33] <joher> whit video ok
[18:33] <pestilence> Pipone: could you paste the output to pastebin and link here
[18:34] <Pipone> pastebin?
[18:34] <pestilence> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[18:35] <Pipone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42485/
[18:36] <pestilence> Pipone: do you have x11-dev installed?
[18:37] <lawke_> hi, I just installed Kubuntu 7.10 and when I try to log in with Kopete it always crashes.. I removed it and installed it again but it keeps crashing..
[18:37] <pestilence> Pipone: actually, libx11-dev
[18:37] <dope> so now when i'm trying to boot from the usb it just says "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT"
[18:37] <dope> it boots fine from usb on my laptop though :|
[18:37] <Pipone> pestilence libx11-dev is already the newest version.
[18:38] <Pipone> lawke_ update kopete version
[18:38] <lawke_> I reinstalled it already..
[18:38] <Pipone> it has bug with only with msn
[18:38] <Pipone> update is not reinstall
[18:38] <pestilence> Pipone: how about libxext6
[18:38] <lawke_> how should I update it then?
[18:39] <Pipone> pestilence libxext6 is already the newest version
[18:39] <pestilence> hmm.
[18:39] <Pipone> lawke_ adept manager
[18:39] <Pipone> K-menu>>System>>Adept manager
[18:39] <lawke_> is there like a search thing, like the one in gnome?
[18:39] <pestilence> Pipone: are you running the 64 bit ubuntu?
[18:39] <Pipone> lawke_ yeap
[18:39] <Pipone> pestilence no
[18:40] <pestilence> Pipone: because you are trying to install the 64 bit package
[18:40] <lawke_> Pipone: where?
[18:40] <pestilence> ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run
[18:40] <pestilence> see the _64 there :)
[18:40] <Pipone> Download the ATI driver installer: ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run (this installer is for 32bit and 64bit systems)
[18:40] <Pipone> :P
[18:40] <lovre> my microphone is not working on kubuntu. Do i need to set something up*?
[18:40] <pestilence> Pipone: oh.
[18:41] <Pipone> lovre in konsole alsamixer press two time tab and inrace mic gain (or something..)
[18:41] <Pipone> incrase*
[18:41] <stdin> lawke_: open adept and go to Adept > Manage Repositories, in the Updates tab make sure the first 4 boxes are checked. then click close and it'll ask to reload. after that you just click "Full Upgrade" and "Apply Changes"
[18:42] <Pipone> pestilence other ideas?
[18:42] <KingJere> I just started the upgrade to Gutsy. Wish me luck. :)
[18:42] <pestilence> Pipone: well, i would like to see what --help says
[18:42] <Pipone> on the installer?
[18:42] <pestilence> yea
[18:42] <pestilence> Pipone: i wonder if you have an environment variable set that is throwing the installer off
[18:43] <dope> i have a pen drive that will boot linux but on PCs that don't support booting from usb what can i do?  the pc already has grub on it
[18:43] <Pipone> mm in a few minutes, am redownloading it
[18:43] <lovre> Pipone: how can i check to see if my mic is working
[18:43] <Pipone> with some program for voice record and playback
[18:43] <Pipone> i guess
[18:43] <Pipone> i tried mine with skype
[18:43] <Pipone> :P
[18:43] <lovre> Pipone: im trying it with skype too, but i cant get anything
[18:44] <KingJere> dope: I had the same prob. I ended up using a boot floppy. Kinda archaic but it worked.
[18:44] <Pipone> lovre you incrase it in alsamixer
[18:44] <Pipone> ?
[18:44] <stdin> dope: if the computer doesn't support booting from USB, there's nothing you can do (except maybe upgrade the firmware)
[18:44] <Pipone> by deafult is zero
[18:44] <Pipone> Capture mic
[18:44] <Pipone> is exactly
[18:45] <lovre> Pipone: in skype settings its set to Default device
[18:45] <Pipone> seven right to left
[18:45] <stdin> !enter
[18:45] <ubot3> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:45] <lovre> Pipone: is that ok
[18:45] <Junkie`> Hm. I just downloaded the desktop cd for gutsy and it gets to 'loading linux kernel' at 100%, stalls, then i get an 'error reading disk' error. Would this be a ram issue? i ran the feisty cd fine when i installed it.
[18:45] <dope> so i can't use grub to boot the usb drive?
[18:47] <Pipone> lovre i have no mic attached right now, do you increse Capture mic in alsamixer? if yes and still no sound, try with diff settings then default
[18:47] <stdin> dope: no, because grub gets the disk info from the bios and the bios can't recognise USB devices apparently
[18:47] <Junkie`> Because the computer isn't very ram friendly
[18:47] <dope> well for my motherboard it supports USB-FDD and USB-ZIP.  whenever i boot from the usb drive it says "PRESS A KEY TO REBOOT"
[18:48] <pestilence> Junkie`: no.
[18:48] <Junkie`> come to think of it, i think i used the feisty alt. cd
[18:48] <pestilence> Junkie`: it shouldn't run out of memory loading the kernel, unless you have like 1 meg of RAM :-D
[18:48] <KingJere> upgrade to gutsy, Take Two!
[18:48] <pestilence> Junkie`: did you verify that the disc was written properly?
[18:49] <Junkie`> well, the kernel loads to 100%
[18:49] <Junkie`> Erm, no :)
[18:49] <stdin> dope: if it says that then grub wasn't installed on the USB disk
[18:49] <Junkie`> I burned it from k3b in a gutsy rc install
[18:49] <Pipone> pestilence can i pm about my problem? don`t wanna spam the channel
[18:49] <dope> stdin: i put the syslinux on it and it'll boot fine on my laptop, just not the desktop
[18:49] <Junkie`> Didn't change any settings, just hit 'Start' and it burned
[18:50] <stdin> dope: syslinux is supposed to be for CD/DVDs
[18:50] <dope> stdin:  i followed a tut online and like i said it boots up no probs at all on my laptop from the pendrive
[18:51] <pestilence> Pipone: i suppose
[18:51] <pestilence> Junkie`: i would suspect faulty media first.
[18:51] <lawke_> how can I see what version I have installed?
[18:51] <lawke_> because it always is saying there is newer version..
[18:52] <ardchoille> lawke_: lsb_release -a
[18:52] <Junkie`> mhm, i'll burn it again. so what would you say is the best reason for upgrading? i thought feisty was great
[18:52] <lawke_> is it still buggy or someting?
[18:52] <KingJere> trying to upgrade. Says I need another 191M on / Isnt' openoffice about that big?
[18:53] <KingJere> can I just aptitude remove it?
[18:53] <lawke_> how do I install compiz on Kubuntu?
[18:54] <arash> lawke_ : whats so hard about it ;) ? I think 'sudo apt-get install compiz' is enough. Or do it via the GUI if you want to
[18:54] <lawke_> arash: did that
[18:54] <lawke_> and I installed the compiz settings manager but it doesn't work
[18:54] <arash> lawke_: What isn't working?
[18:55] <lawke_> if I open the settings, I get the same settings like in gnome and all.. but if I wanna rotate with the cube it doesn't work
[18:55] <arash> lawke_:  or use this guide ;) instead of my words :D https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[18:55] <lawke_> I thought compiz was already in the new version
[18:55] <pestilence> Junkie`: i don't know :-D  if you think feisty is great...i'm not sure i would upgrade
[18:56] <pestilence> Junkie`: you can check the media before you go and make another disc, use dd to make an image of the cd you burned, then do an md5sum on the media
[18:56] <pestilence> err on the image
[18:57] <pestilence> and compare it with the md5sum of the iso file you downloaded
[18:57] <pestilence> and also the md5sum listed on the server
[18:57] <KingJere> any ideas for quickly freeing up 191M in /
[18:58] <solidus-river> how do I get the properties of a window
[18:58] <pestilence> KingJere: sudo apt-get clean
[18:58] <solidus-river> I'm trying to disable shadows in ccsm for katapult
[18:58] <KingJere> pestilence: did that. thats why I only need another 191M
[18:58] <KingJere> Thanks tho
[18:58] <pestilence> heh
[18:58] <solidus-river> also, for some reason in compiz, I can't rotate the cub by middle clicking the desktop, it doesn't recognize it for some reason
[18:59] <mohamed> hi does anybody know how to install bluej on kubuntu
[18:59] <eagles0513875> !bluej
[18:59] <ubot3> Factoid bluej not found
[19:00] <mohamed> it's like netbean or eclipse for jjava
[19:00] <eagles0513875> mohamed: really whats the link
[19:00] <mohamed> http://www.bluej.org/index.html
[19:01] <eagles0513875> mohamed: u know the have a jar file
[19:01] <NickPresta> !find bluej
[19:01] <eagles0513875> just run that
[19:01] <ubot3> Package/file bluej does not exist in gutsy
[19:01] <eagles0513875> NickPresta: couldnt u just download the jar file and use that to install
[19:01] <mohamed> yes I do have jar file for it
[19:02] <mohamed> I'm newbie in linex and I hate windows
[19:02] <eagles0513875> mohamed: i hate winblows too
[19:02] <eagles0513875> mohamed: have u tried double clicking it
[19:02] <Freddy2> lol
[19:02] <mohamed> I did, but I don'w know which file to use
[19:03] <mohamed> all of them has the installer word
[19:03] <pestilence> mohamed: the way you run a jar file is by typing "java -jar filename.jar" at the command line
[19:03] <pestilence> where filename.jar is the name of the jar file
[19:03] <eagles0513875> oh kool
[19:04] <solidus-river> how do I get libdvdcss2 and win32codecs
[19:04] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | solidus-river
[19:04] <ubot3> solidus-river: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[19:05] <mohamed> Unable to access jarfile bluej-220.jar
[19:05] <solidus-river> ardchoille: there used to be a script that came with ubuntu somewhere that just fetched the .deb from somewhere and did it, I don't like adding 3rd party repos
[19:05] <mohamed> does any body know why?
[19:05] <pestilence> mohamed: is the jar file on your desktop?
[19:05] <mohamed> yes
[19:05] <ardchoille> solidus-river: I never knew of any script like that. the medibuntu repo hasn't given me any problems.
[19:06] <lawke_> so, how do I install the latest ATI driver?
[19:06] <pestilence> mohamed: and what directory are you in on the command line?
[19:06] <eagles0513875> i have bluej installed but i cant run in
[19:06] <mohamed> desktop
[19:06] <ardchoille> !ati | lawke_
[19:06] <ubot3> lawke_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:06] <eagles0513875> pestilence: same with me
[19:06] <solidus-river> what button is the middle mouse button usually registereed as?
[19:07] <pestilence> let me try it.
[19:07] <pestilence> works like a charm for me
[19:07] <eagles0513875> its working for me
[19:07] <pestilence> mohamed: try java -jar ~/Desktop/bluej-220.jar
[19:08] <eagles0513875> pestilence: he could also do cd Desktop
[19:08] <pestilence> eagles0513875: sure.  but i'm trying to make it as simple as possible for me to debug his interpretation of my requests :-D
[19:08] <eagles0513875> pestilence: ahhhok i gotcha
[19:09] <mohamed> pestilence: thank man
[19:09] <pestilence> mohamed: np
[19:09] <ardchoille> solidus-river: Perhaps you're thinking of /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh  but using the repos is easier and that script won't get you the w32codecs
[19:09] <ekrengel> does anyone know how i could get an HD movie to play sound in kaffeine?  the audio plays in VLC media player, but the video is choppy...in kaffiene it plays fine but there is no sound...
[19:10] <solidus-river> ardchoille: thanks, that was what I was thinking of
[19:10] <lz1gjd> !compiz-fusion
[19:10] <ekrengel> its a .mkv file
[19:10] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:10] <chronos> I'm having problems with my NVIDIA card in gusty. I've enabled the restricted drivers, but I still can't run a GL screensaver.
[19:10] <eagles0513875> mohamed: if that doesnt work u could try somethign called jedit
[19:10] <ardchoille> solidus-river: Besides, the repos have a newer version of libdvdcss2 anyway
[19:11] <mohamed> my issue is now I want to know how install java and I want to know where can I get the directory,. but I don't want to bother you with that
[19:11] <Junkie`> note: when playing with the live cd's, prepare to wait when selecting 'memory test'
[19:12] <ardchoille> !java | mohamed
[19:12] <ubot3> mohamed: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[19:12] <WaltzingAlong> mohamed: java what? the plugin? the compiler? the runtime?
[19:12] <mohamed> colpiler
[19:12] <mohamed> compiler
[19:13] <mohamed> I think it should be jdk
[19:13] <Freddy2> yes, it is
[19:13] <pestilence> ekrengel: i use mplayer, it works fine
[19:13] <lz1gjd> where can i find some tutorial how to get new ati driver compiz-fusion on kubuntu 7.10
[19:14] <lz1gjd> followed all guides that i could find but with no luck
[19:14] <solidus-river> how would I get the info about a certain window
[19:14] <nelli> # kubuntu-devel
[19:14] <solidus-river> like if I wanted to set special rules for it
[19:14] <nelli> #kubuntu-devel
[19:15] <nelli> sry
[19:15] <pestilence> nelli: try putting /j in front of that :-D
[19:15] <g2g591> solidus:right click on the titlebar
[19:15] <nelli> thanks pestilence
[19:15] <eagles0513875> none of these ides debug and compile for me
[19:15] <eagles0513875> and i dont wanna use the javac in teh cli
[19:15] <fkefer> Riddell: pin
[19:15] <fkefer> g
[19:16] <eagles0513875> Riddell: hey u know of any good ides for java
[19:16] <yugge_> Is there some kind of T9-ish system for linux?
[19:16] <Freddy2> eclipse or netbeans?
[19:17] <eagles0513875> Freddy2: too advanced for me at this time
[19:17] <shadowhywind> what is the console command to see what version of kubuntu i am running?
[19:17] <eagles0513875> Freddy2: im still rather new to java and in my class all we r doing is making java source viles and wiht eclipes and netbeans i have to create a whole project unless there is a way around that
[19:18] <kyron> hey all, I'm a GEntoo user installing Kubuntu on a PIII laptop since I have _so much time_ inmy life (hehehe) ...jsut wanted to know if there is a "magical" button somewhere to disable all the "fluff"....sort of like a "this is old hardware, be nice and disable useless gadgety fluff" button?
[19:18] <kyron> btw, I kubuntu seems nice ;)
[19:18] <eagles0513875> kyron: this is already quite a simple distro u dont have any fluff unless u download it
[19:18] <mohamed> Does any body know a good software for creating web-pages on ubuntu
[19:18] <Freddy2> then learn command line options for compiling/running apps
[19:18] <pestilence> kyron: install from the server cd, then you can install whatever you want.
[19:18] <Freddy2> but for debug..
[19:19] <kyron> eagles0513875, well, I mean things like pop-up animations, fade-in-out and the such
[19:19] <origaman> mohamed: quanta
[19:19] <eagles0513875> kyron i think thats all done in the system settings
[19:19] <eagles0513875> !quanta
[19:19] <ubot3> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2402 kB, installed size 5840 kB
[19:19] <eagles0513875> origaman: does quanta also do java
[19:20] <kyron> eagles0513875, ok, but I hove to go through the settings one at a time I guess (not like windows that has a "set for performance" option)
[19:20] <origaman>  eagles0513875: at last it should do some java syntax highlighting...
[19:20] <kyron> ....would be nice that KDE4 had a single-button-no-cruft in the GUI settings ;_
[19:21] <Freddy2> another question related to raid: if you have a hardware raid controller (maybe some adaptec) can you boot directly from the raid? (assuming there's no other disk outside it)
[19:21] <eagles0513875> kyron: ya
[19:21] <ardchoille> kyron: yes, but distro developers would likely change it
[19:21] <eagles0513875> origaman: ill give it a try will i be able to just work with individual files instead of a whole project. cuz in class we have been working with just java source files for the programming we have learned so far
[19:22] <lovre> man, im constantly having problems with kubuntu. A month with no rest. Im getting so dissapointed............:(
[19:22] <lovre> and i dont want to go back to windows.........i hate windows
[19:22] <aceta> does somebody happen to know how to use a gpg-encrypted keyfile on an usb stick with LUKS on boot ?
[19:23] <eagles0513875> lovre: whats the problem
[19:24] <mohamed> hey gus i can't open the apt manager, any ideas
[19:24] <eagles0513875> mohamed try this
[19:24] <origaman> eagles0513875: Well, quanta is specialized in creating web pages, i.e. html, php, css. I don't know if there is any Java related functionality other than syntax highlighting.
[19:24] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[19:24] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:24] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[19:24] <contrast83> Has anyone had any luck theming KDM since they've been using Gutsy?
[19:24] <Emerson1> lovre: what's your problem?
[19:25] <eagles0513875> origaman: it opened my java source file but i cant compile it and run it any idea as to what program even if its just source code that will do that for me
[19:25] <lovre> everything is: i CANT automount my USB stick memory (i really need that, cant manually mount everytime..), i cant get my mic to work at all. Im having problems with amarok, playing two songs at a time, and sometimes doesnt want to play some files at all. When i kill the process it plays regardles of that. Then the problem of localisation, when i put something on an USB memory with windows, and if it has local symbols, it doesnt open on kubuntu... and
[19:25] <lovre> so on........
[19:25] <mohamed> try what>
[19:25] <sahin_h> contrast83: I played with it a little bit.
[19:26] <contrast83> sahin_h: Any success?
[19:26] <sahin_h> contrast83: The theme handling has been changed.
[19:26] <lovre> :(
[19:26]  * lovre weeps
[19:26] <contrast83> Ugh... Why?
[19:26] <mohamed> i  tried !aptifix and it gave me this message /bin/sh: !aptfix: not found
[19:26] <sahin_h> contrast83: I edited two files by hand.
[19:26] <eagles0513875> mohamed: !apt fix isnt the command u put
[19:26] <kyron> ardchoille, hehe, yeah, that's why I came here and asked...cuz I would have hoped kubuntu would have made such a button...
[19:26] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[19:26] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:26] <contrast83> sahin_h: Which ones? I already messed with /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc.
[19:27] <eagles0513875> mohamed: this is sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:27] <kyron> guess I'll have to make my own...one day...and Kall it KDE Powe Toys :P
[19:27] <sahin_h> contrast83: The files are in the /etc/default/kdm.d directory.
[19:27] <eagles0513875> lovre: did u do a clean install or upgrade
[19:27] <eagles0513875> and r u duel booting
[19:27] <contrast83> Ahh, ok.
[19:28] <contrast83> sahin_h: Did you have to reboot afterwards to get the theming to take effect?
[19:28] <sahin_h> contrast83: If I remeber correctly... yes. I rebooted my machine. Maybe it just not needed...
[19:29] <contrast83> Cool, thanks a lot. Been banging my head here for half an hour.
[19:29] <eagles0513875> brb guys
[19:29] <lovre> eagles0513875: a clean install, formated the disc, and fresh install, with no dual boot or anything
[19:29] <sahin_h> contrast83: no problem
[19:29] <lovre> eagles0513875: the most common hardware configuration, intel, nVidia etc
[19:29] <eagles0513875> lovre: was this a windows vista machine
[19:30] <eagles0513875> lovre: is ur machine a 32bit or 64bit os
[19:30] <lovre> eagles0513875: its 32bit
[19:30] <eagles0513875> ok
[19:30] <eagles0513875> u got the right iso
[19:30] <eagles0513875> lovre: ill brb sis needs the net for a sec
[19:30] <lovre> rgg
[19:30] <lovre> rgr
[19:30] <lovre> :D
[19:30] <sahin_h> contrast83: One more note: it looks like the system read the files in /etc/default/kdm.d numeric order.
[19:35] <Emerson1> something wrong with this channel?
[19:37] <bjwebb> hi
[19:38] <bjwebb> i found away to turn off the select → copy thing, but can't find it now
[19:38] <bjwebb> any ideas?
[19:39] <chronos> !compiz
[19:39] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:41] <mohamed> my apt manager still not working
[19:42] <ubuntu> Hi i managed to screw up the grub installation, anyone know how i can do that from the live cd_
[19:43] <carwash^> Hi, cdripping from a sata drive is really slow. Any tips on speeding it up?
[19:44] <Jvx> Can someone plz help me get grub working ?
[19:45] <bjwebb> Jvx: what've you done?
[19:46] <Jvx> I didnt get grub to install correctly during install
[19:46] <Jvx> just wanna reinstall it
[19:46] <bjwebb> oh
[19:46] <bjwebb> !grub
[19:46] <ubot3> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:46] <Jvx> but i cant sudo apt/get from the live cd
[19:46] <bjwebb> hmmm
[19:47] <contrast83> sahin_h: Hey, you still around?
[19:47] <winbond> !emule
[19:47] <ubot3> Factoid emule not found
[19:47] <winbond> !edonkey
[19:47] <ubot3> Factoid edonkey not found
[19:47] <Jvx> kk gonna read up on that link thx
[19:47] <contrast83> !info edonkey
[19:47] <ubot3> Package edonkey does not exist in gutsy
[19:47] <LjL> !botabuse | winbond
[19:47] <ubot3> winbond: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[19:48] <contrast83> Hrm... I think eDonkey's on GetDeb. Could be wrong. If not, you've still got KMLDonkey.
[19:48] <sahin_h> contrast83: Yes, I'm here now.
[19:49] <contrast83> sahin_h: Still struggling with KDM. Do you think if I pastebinned those two files and my kdmrc you could check them against yours to see what I'm borking up?
[19:49] <luigi> problem javascript
[19:50] <luigi> help
[19:50] <sahin_h> contrast83: Ok, I will check. However I reverted my files to the original state.
[19:50] <eagles0513875> lovre: im back
[19:50] <contrast83> sahin_h: Oh, ok... One sec...
[19:51] <sahin_h> contrast83: The key for the solution in my case the two files in the /etc/default/kdm.d
[19:51] <luigi> problema java
[19:51] <eagles0513875> lovre: r u a registered user here so we can talk one on one
[19:51] <sahin_h> contrast83: One more note: it looks like the system read the files in /etc/default/kdm.d numeric order.
[19:51] <eagles0513875> !it |luigi
[19:51] <ubot3> luigi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:52] <Jvx> can i install grub on my hd from the live cd_
[19:52] <contrast83> Hmm... Interesting. It appears the file 30_kubuntu_default_settings has disappeared.
[19:52] <Jvx> it seems that it tries to get grub to the live environment and not to the hd install when i try and apt-get grub
[19:53] <sahin_h> contrast83: I have two files only: /etc/default/kdm.d/10_desktop-base
[19:53] <sahin_h> contrast83: and /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings
[19:53] <eagles0513875> besides netbeans and eclipse which r rather confusing to understand does anyone recommend any other java ide which also does the compiling and debugging
[19:53] <contrast83> I never had a 10_desktop-base. Weird.
[19:53] <sahin_h> contrast83: Hmmm.
[19:54] <sahin_h> contrast83: So do you hvae two files, or only one?
[19:54] <chronos> !compiz
[19:54] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:54] <eagles0513875> does gnome get installed as well when u do a clean install cuz for some reason when i logged in the last time before thsi one it logged me into gnome
[19:54] <eagles0513875> which is not my defualt
[19:55] <mohamed> how can I find IRC channel for java
[19:55] <bjwebb> #java ?
[19:55] <Dragnslcr> mohamed- probably either #java or ##java
[19:55] <lawke> ok! so I just installed kubuntu 7.10, I installed the ATI driver that was auto detected. Now how do I run compiz?
[19:55] <contrast83> sahin_h: Well, I _had_ two - 20_kubuntu_default_settings and 30_kubuntu_default_settings, but 30... has disappeared. I'm *certain* I didn't delete/move it. And I also have kdmrc, of course, but it sounds like that's deprecated anyway, at least in regards to theming.
[19:55] <eagles0513875> !compiz |lawke
[19:55] <ubot3> lawke: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:55] <mohamed> it gave me this message though, what does it mean
[19:56] <mohamed> NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password
[19:56] <ubuntu_> hi all
[19:56] <contrast83> Ok, just installed desktop-base, so now I have 10_desktop_base
[19:56] <bjwebb> mohamed: try ##java
[19:56] <ubuntu_> anyone tried usb pendriver over 4gb
[19:56] <sahin_h> contrast83: Yep, kdmrc os deprecated in case of theme handling.
[19:56] <bjwebb> mohamed: i think the message is because someone else owns you Nickname
[19:57] <contrast83> sahin_h: So I should put the theme I want to use into both 10_desktop_base and 20_kubuntu_default_settings, and that should be it, theoretically?
[19:57] <chronos> !compiz
[19:57] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:57] <mohamed> I'm sure there is somebody has my nick name lol, how can I change my nick name
[19:57]  * contrast83 loves apt-file
[19:57] <bjwebb> mohamed: /nick new_name
[19:58] <sahin_h> contrast83: The two files contains some similar variable. For example the THEME variable.
[19:58] <ubuntu_> isit easy to enable compiz on kubuntu ? i noticed it was enable by default on ubuntu 7.10
[19:58] <contrast83> Ok, done. BRB...
[19:58] <sahin_h> contrast83: Try to put # before one of the variable.
[19:59] <Jvx> sata discs are named sd0 etc right_
[19:59] <eagles0513875> !compiz |ubuntu_
[19:59] <ubot3> ubuntu_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:59] <ubuntu_> ok saw ubot3's answer now...
[19:59] <eagles0513875> Jvx: some times for me they have been named sda#
[19:59] <Jvx> ok thx
[19:59] <Jvx> cant seem to get grub working >s
[19:59] <mohamed22> hi
[19:59] <mohamed22> hi
[20:00] <lawke> lol, I kinda like put a dock bar and don't know how to delete this, any ide?
[20:00] <hari> hi
[20:00] <pestilence> !hi
[20:00] <ubot3> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[20:01] <hari> pestilence hi
[20:01] <mhelal222> asdfsd
[20:01] <eagles0513875> !offtopic
[20:01] <ubot3> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[20:01] <mhelal222> I changed my name like thousands time, it wouldn't let me join the java channel
[20:02] <pestilence> mhelal222: you want ##java
[20:02] <hari> why ?
[20:02] <contrast83> sahin_h: Still nothin'. Thanks anyway though, I appreciate your attempts. :-)
[20:02] <mhelal222> [Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel
[20:02] <pestilence> mhelal222: it wants you to register with nickbot
[20:02] <hari> ok
[20:03] <Jvx> is there a command that can tell me which hd kubuntu has mounted?
[20:03] <pestilence> err nickserv
[20:03] <mhelal222> and what  does it mean?
[20:03] <mhelal222> lol
[20:03] <pestilence> mhelal222: /msg NickServ help
[20:03] <sahin_h> contrast83: Ok. No problem. Maybe the developers know the answer. They did the changes.
[20:03] <contrast83> Jvx: cat fstab   ?
[20:04] <contrast83> sahin_h: Yeah. I didn't want to bother them with something so petty, but I might have to. :-P
[20:04] <sahin_h> contrast83: kubuntu-devel isn't a support channel, however you can try to ask these people.
[20:04] <contrast83> Will do, thanks a lot.
[20:04] <Jvx> ill try that
[20:04] <contrast83> Jvx: Sorry, cat /etc/fstab
[20:06] <Gulars> contrast83, if you just run "mount" it will display the list of active drives
[20:06] <tape-deck> how do I get kubuntu to mount a usb drive so I can access it without sudoing?
[20:06] <contrast83> Gulars: Ahh, ok. Thanks.
[20:06] <patricio> hm, since my update to gutsy, it seems, that my bluetooth is not working, i.e. when I press FN+F5, which should be the hardware activation of my thinkpad's bluetooth device, it doesn't light up. kdebluetooth is installed. What else do I need?
[20:07] <Gulars> patricio, I don't  think the fn+combinations work on thinkpads in linux
[20:07] <patricio> oh, this could be a ibm thinkpad issue because some other functions work, like FN+End which decreases the light.
[20:07] <Gulars> thats what it said at thinkwiki at least (if I remember correctly)
[20:07] <patricio> yes, I know the page
[20:08] <eagles0513875> what ever anyone does dont go in the java room unless u really need to
[20:08] <eagles0513875> people rnt that friendly
[20:08] <patricio> eagles0513875: :)
[20:08] <Gulars> heh
[20:08] <Gulars> eagles0513875, what's your problem?
[20:09] <pestilence> eagles0513875: you have to have a thick skin to go into any channel with a programming language as a topic
[20:09] <contrast83> ^^ +1
[20:09] <contrast83> The guys in #bash are ruthless. lol
[20:10] <biovore> #perl is ok
[20:13] <eagles0513875> Gulars: i need an easier to use ide then netbeans im still learning java and netbeans is rather complex for me
[20:13] <Gulars> ah
[20:13] <eagles0513875> Gulars: i need an ide that will let me debug in the ide as well as let the ide execute the program
[20:14] <Gulars> then I'm of no help to you, sorry
[20:14] <Ace2016> hi all
[20:14] <contrast83> yo
[20:14] <bjwebb> hi
[20:15] <eagles0513875> Gulars: i tried to get the one i use at my uni to work using wine but it hangs for me
[20:15] <Jvx> when i try to run find /boot/grub/stage1 in grub
[20:15] <Jvx> it returns file not found
[20:15] <lawke> hi, I followed this setup to install compiz -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion its all done, but it wont give me cool 3D Effects.. do I need someting else?
[20:15] <SudoKing> Is there a really good list of Kubuntu tweaks somewhere?
[20:16] <bjwebb> lawke: compiz --replace?
[20:16] <contrast83> SudoKing: In terms of performance, or just customization?
[20:16] <bjwebb> compiz --replace should start compiz
[20:16] <SudoKing> performance
[20:17] <lawke> bjwebb: if I try to start compiz with Konsole I get this:
[20:17] <contrast83> SudoKing: Tons. Pretty much anything you see in that realm about Ubuntu applies to Kubuntu as well.
[20:17] <lawke> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[20:17] <Dr_willis> lawke,  what video card?
[20:17] <SudoKing> okay thanks
[20:17] <contrast83> np
[20:17] <lawke> Dr_willis: ATI Radeon X1600 PRO
[20:17] <winbond> does the gnutella network still exist??  because the kmldonkey doesnt connect to any servers
[20:17]  * Dr_willis saw that comming. :0
[20:17] <contrast83> SudoKing: The forums might be a good starting point, BTW.
[20:17] <lawke> I got compiz running on ubuntu :D
[20:18] <Dr_willis> lawke,  you did isntall the fglrx drivers for that card?
[20:18] <slimjimflim> hi i'm trying to add a desktop selector button to my menu bar, but i can't find it under 'add applet to panel' or 'add new panel'
[20:18] <Dr_willis> lawke,  you got ubuntu and kubuntu both on that machine?
[20:18] <contrast83> slimjimflim: Desktop Pager
[20:18] <lawke> Dr_willis: no, other harddrive but that one is not plugged in right now
[20:19] <Dr_willis> lawke,  well you need to be using the fglrx drivers and i am not sure what other tweaks to get the xgl stuff going. I take ati cards and throw them away. :)
[20:19] <lawke> Dr_willis: I had to check someting on when I first logged in. Someting with 3D blabla
[20:19] <SudoKing> Contrasy83: Where can I find the forums?
[20:19] <slimjimflim> contrast83, that just removed the whole bar
[20:19] <lawke> on ubuntu I did have to install a xgl-server, didn't do that here..
[20:20] <tape-deck> Dr_willis: Difficult when there is our laptop, tends to be an expensive pastime
[20:20] <eagles0513875> im getting rather depressed right now
[20:20] <Dr_willis> tape-deck,  yep. thats why i am very picky now about laptops
[20:20] <contrast83> slimjimflim: o_O
[20:20] <Dr_willis> tape-deck,  or i dont worry about 3d/games/compiz on them. :)
[20:20] <slimjimflim> i've been able to add other things, but whenever i try that, i lose the menubar
[20:20] <SudoKing> Did you ever type fortune in terminal?
[20:20] <Dr_willis> fortune | cowsay
[20:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[20:20] <tape-deck> Dr_willis: pah, but a mac if you want that shite
[20:20] <tape-deck> buy*
[20:21] <lawke> how can I see what drivers i am using ?
[20:21] <biovore> lsmod
[20:21] <lawke> lsmod
[20:21] <lawke> oops :D
[20:21] <contrast83> slimjimflim: Not sure why it would've done that... Do you have it set up like OS X (i.e., with each program's menu bar at the very top of the screen)?
[20:21] <tds> cowsay isn't installed. wtf does it do?
[20:21] <Dr_willis> tape-deck,   wait for kde4.. im betting on so much eyecandy.. we will get ocular cavaties
[20:21] <contrast83> !info cowsay
[20:21] <ubot3> cowsay: A configurable talking cow. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-8 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 268 kB
[20:21] <Dr_willis> lsmod shows the loaded modules.
[20:21] <tape-deck> Dr_willis: 8.04 should be something spectacular
[20:22] <lawke> Dr_willis: i'm seeing a fglrx driver between lsmod..
[20:22] <greeg> hi gang
[20:22] <tds> why talk to an autonomous cow when i can come here
[20:22] <eagles0513875> sigh
[20:22] <Dr_willis> lawke,   may be you need to install that xgl thing like you mentioned.
[20:22] <lawke> !xgl
[20:22] <greeg> i installed kubuntu and used the whole dics.  i would also like to install an other distro to learn but dont know anything about partitioning in linux.
[20:22] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:22] <slimjimflim> contrast, no, i had one bar w/ just the k button, and another w/ applications.  i think a few times it has logged me out back to the kde login screen
[20:22] <greeg> but i dont know where to start
[20:22] <slimjimflim> contrast83^^
[20:23] <Dr_willis> greeg,  easy way - is to install vmware server. and use it to run any other disrtos to test.
[20:23] <Ange|us> somebody can tell me how to compile and install the vesafb module without compiling a whole kernel?
[20:23] <Dr_willis> greeg,  what are you expecting to learn from other disrtos? just test them out? vmware is great for that
[20:23] <slimjimflim> contrast83  ...logged me out when i tried to add the desktop pager
[20:24] <tape-deck> how do I play dvd's in gutsy?
[20:24] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> how long should it take to install sun-java packages? mine is hanging at 23%
[20:24] <greeg> Dr_willis: yes to test out. and i think kubuntu come with alot of stuff for my computer to handle (i.e. music is skippy when i do other things)
[20:24] <contrast83> slimjimflim: Something sounds fairly wrong then. You could just delete ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker and they'll be set back to the defaults when you log back in.
[20:24] <greeg> but if i get stumped at gentoo i can always fall back to kubuntu Dr_willis
[20:24] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[20:24] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[20:25] <Nyle> how do i turn off the adept notifier
[20:25] <jpatrick> Nyle: quit from it
[20:26] <contrast83> Nyle: Right-click -> Quit
[20:26] <Nyle> I did, but the window is still up on desktop and won't go away
[20:26] <Nyle> its just a titlebar and window, with a round green circle
[20:26] <contrast83> Nyle: You have Compiz running?
[20:26] <Nyle> I click close and all sorts of closes but it won't close
[20:26] <Nyle> contrast83: yes i am
[20:26] <contrast83> Nyle: Right-click -> Quit
[20:26] <Nyle> I did
[20:26] <Nyle> no close
[20:26] <contrast83> On the green circle?
[20:27] <Nyle> anywhere
[20:27] <Nyle> let me show you a screenshot
[20:27] <contrast83> Umm... Anywhere includes the green circle?
[20:27] <contrast83> Nyle: No need, I know what you're talking about.
[20:27] <Nyle> yes
[20:27] <Nyle> I have tried everywhere
[20:27] <contrast83> I've seen that a hundred times, but doing what I just said always worked for me.
[20:27] <Dr_willis> I dont even have it going on this box. :)
[20:28] <contrast83> Nyle: There aren't any other Adept programs openn, by chance?
[20:28] <slimjimflim> ty contrast, gonna restart it now
[20:28] <contrast83> s/openn/open
[20:28] <contrast83> slimjimflim: NP, good luck.
[20:28] <Nyle> titlebar says Adept Notifier with a green circle on the top left hand, and minimize/restore/close on the right hand corner
[20:28] <SudoKing> close it
[20:28] <Dr_willis> go hardcore and use xkill? :)
[20:28] <contrast83> Nyle: Right... And what *exactly* happens when you right-click the green circle?
[20:28] <contrast83> Ugh, no.
[20:29] <contrast83> Why would you xkill a package management app? :-\
[20:29] <SudoKing> because it won't behave
[20:29] <Nyle> ohhh
[20:29] <patricio> killall && rm -rf /
[20:29] <Nyle> you mean click inside the green hole?
[20:29] <contrast83> Greets, AmyRose
[20:29] <ardchoille> patricio: Please don't post that comand here.
[20:29] <SudoKing> or you could use KSysGuard
[20:29] <patricio> hehe, ok sry :)
[20:29] <contrast83> Nyle: Right. Like I said, "on the green circle".
[20:30] <mehdi_> hello
[20:30] <Nyle> do I want to start it the next timne I login ?
[20:30] <AmyRose> hi, contrast83
[20:30] <contrast83> Yeah.
[20:30] <mehdi_>  I have a problem with amarok
[20:30] <Nyle> I do?
[20:30] <contrast83> Yes.
[20:30] <mehdi_> I have installed the last package with kubuntu gutsy, but i have lot of problem
[20:30] <Nyle> will it do the same thing agian?
[20:30] <contrast83> Nyle: How are you starting Compiz?
[20:30] <mehdi_>  when i reinstall the kubuntu feisty, amarok doesnt work
[20:30] <Nyle> compiz --replace
[20:30] <mehdi_>  why??
[20:30] <Nyle> why not
[20:31] <Ange|us> somebody can tell me how to compile and install the vesafb module without compiling a whole kernel?
[20:31] <slimjimflim> contrast83, perfect, thanks again
[20:31] <contrast83> Nyle: You may want to set up a seperate Xsession for Compiz. It's fairly easy if you want me to walk you through it.
[20:31] <Nyle> contrast83: what does it mean?
[20:31] <contrast83> slimjimflim: Glad to help. :-)
[20:32] <contrast83> Nyle: It means when you're at the login screen, you'll be able to pick whether you want a plain KDE session, or a KDE session in which Compiz starts automatically when you log in.
[20:33] <Nyle> thats ok
[20:33] <contrast83> Nyle: Usually, if Compiz is running before Adept Notifier (or any other system tray applet) starts, you won't get that bug you just had.
[20:33] <Nyle> I feel nausiated
[20:33] <Nyle> I ate last night's fried rice
[20:33] <Nyle> ow
[20:34] <Nyle> I will take medicine and feel better and then I will do stuff with kde
[20:34] <caris_mere> I can't sync my palm using Gutsy, has anybody had this problem or know of a solution....with Feisty I had to start the visor module.
[20:34] <Nyle> contrast83: what about autostart?
[20:34] <Nyle> no good?
[20:34] <contrast83> Nyle: You can do that. You chance getting that same bug again though.
[20:35] <Nyle> ok, so just tell me wha tI need to do, you don't have to walk me
[20:35] <contrast83> One sec...
[20:35] <Nyle> thans
[20:35] <Nyle> thanks
[20:35] <karol3500> can someone tell me how configure xorg.conf to set 100Hz refresh rate?? I have nvidia GeForce 4800 Ti SE and Kubuntu 7.10
[20:36] <skole> Hi I have a problem. My user manager is written in japanese, That happened after I got the new Kubuntu 10.2. Is there an easy fix?
[20:36] <Nyle> karol3500: specidy widthxheight@100Hz
[20:37] <karol3500> 1024x768
[20:37] <Dr_willis> a CRT that handles 100Hz? wowsers
[20:37] <Nyle> "1024x768@100Hz"
[20:37] <Freddy2> skole: u sure its kubuntu? not suse?
[20:37] <Nyle> mine does 1024x768@115Hz
[20:37] <biovore> I have 2 CRT's that handel 100Hz ar 1280x1024
[20:37] <Ange|us> is it posible that no one knows how to compile a kernel module without compiling a whole kernel?
[20:37] <Dr_willis> I dont even have a crt any more. :)
[20:37] <Nyle> 30-96, 50-160
[20:37] <karol3500> my too
[20:37] <Ace2016> Nyle: how big is this crt?
[20:38] <karol3500> but I like 102x768;-]
[20:38] <Nyle> 19"flatscreen
[20:38] <skole> Yes I am sure. I installed it yesterday. Everything else is in Norwegian as it shuld be.
[20:38] <karol3500> ok thx
[20:38] <Nyle> Dell M993s
[20:38] <contrast83> Nyle: http://pastebin.com/m5e27ee1e
[20:38] <Dr_willis> Ange|us,  ive isntalled the kernel source befor ages ago and just confiogured what modules to compile and did a 'make modules' and 'make modules install'
[20:38] <Dr_willis> Ange|us,  but that was.. like 4+ yrs ago
[20:38] <Freddy2> skole: 10.2??
[20:38] <contrast83> Nyle: After you do that, you'll be able to pick KDE or KDE w/ Comiz-Fusion before you log in.
[20:39] <contrast83> s/Comiz/Compiz
[20:39] <Nyle> i need to setup passwordless ssh
[20:39] <Nyle> brb
[20:39] <Ace2016> a flatscreen crt?
[20:39] <skole> Ahh. 7.10 Gutsy gibbon of course
[20:40] <Ange|us> Dr_willis: but make modules will compile all modules
[20:40] <Ace2016> i want to get a crt, a big one, like 21", lcds suck unless you spend lots getting a raelly good one
[20:40] <Dr_willis> Ange|us,  proberly will.
[20:40] <Ange|us> Dr_willis: i just want to compile the vesafb module
[20:40] <Dr_willis> unchedk the others then i guess.. be faster to just let it compile them all
[20:41] <karol3500> Nyle I tried to set 1024x768@100, but it doesn't work
[20:41] <karol3500> where should I type 10-90, 50-160?
[20:41] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> adept is acting up...it glitched while i was installing java and now only lets me into read only mode
[20:41] <karol3500> 30-90*
[20:42] <skole> Do you know any thing about it?
[20:42] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> me?
[20:43] <origaman>  Every five seconds I get a line "enable montype: 2" appended to my Xorg.0.log. At the same time my system keeps freezing for about a second. Any ideas what this could be coming from???
[20:43] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> beyond me...
[20:43] <Dr_willis> Ange|us,  the vesafb.ko  module?
[20:43] <skole> Hi I have a problem. My user manager is written in japanese, That happened after I got the new Kubuntu 10.2. Is there an easy fix?
[20:44] <Dr_willis>  locate vesafb ---> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/video/vesafb.ko
[20:46] <caris_mere> Is it possible to use skype with Gutsy?
[20:46] <Fleck> Kubuntu 7.10 - Gutsy Gibbon << Latest
[20:46] <biovore> !skype
[20:46] <ubot3> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[20:46] <caris_mere> thanks
[20:47] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> how do i fix adept? it says another 1 is running
[20:47] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> and only gives read only mode
[20:47] <biovore> sudo killall adpet
[20:47] <biovore> adept
[20:47] <origaman> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[20:47] <biovore> or that
[20:47] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> adept:no prcoesses killed
[20:48] <Fleck> Kubuntu 7.10 - Gutsy Gibbon << Latest?
[20:48] <biovore> ^ yes
[20:48] <Fleck> fglrx works on kubuntu?
[20:48] <biovore> it does...
[20:48] <biovore> !ati
[20:48] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:49] <junkie> Okay, I got the new kubuntu installed :)
[20:49] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> didnt work
[20:49] <LeeJunFan> !aptcrash
[20:49] <ubot3> Factoid aptcrash not found
[20:50] <contrast83> !aptfix
[20:50] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:50] <LeeJunFan> that's it.
[20:50] <junkie> I logged in and it said that it could use restricted drivers, so i enabled the nvidia legacy driver and restarted
[20:50] <lencho> hi every one
[20:50] <junkie> But now the screen resolution is messed up
[20:50] <contrast83> Greets, lencho
[20:51] <junkie> Saying it can only go to 800 x 600, when my moniter is like 1260 x 1024
[20:51] <junkie> Does anyone know a fix?
[20:51] <biovore> might have something to do with refreshrates..
[20:51] <skole> Hi I have the 7.10 Gutsy gibbon. I got it yesterday, I upgraded it from the previus version. I have a problem with the language in user managment. The tabs are written in japanese. What can I do?
[20:51] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> that worked thank you soo much!
[20:51] <lencho> kubuntu rocks yeah
[20:51] <patricio> skole: lol, learn japanese
[20:52] <skole> hehe
[20:52] <contrast83> Time to stop putting it off.
[20:53] <patricio> skole: you can't change the language in Regional&Language Settings?
[20:53] <contrast83> Now I'm curious. What file tells all the programs which language to use?
[20:53] <origaman> Every five seconds I get a line "enable montype: 2" appended to my Xorg.0.log. At the same time my system keeps freezing for about a second. Any ideas what this could be coming from???
[20:53] <fdoving> skole: yeah, i've noticed that too. norwegian, right?
[20:54] <lencho> who knows the irc channel of ubuntu in spanish?
[20:54] <skole> Patricio: I have tryed that. And the language is perfectly Norwegian on everything else yes
[20:54] <fdoving> !es | lencho
[20:54] <ubot3> lencho: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[20:55] <skole> fdoving: You have the same problem?
[20:55] <fdoving> skole: yes.
[20:55] <biovore> bug report time?
[20:55] <fdoving> it's reported somewhere.
[20:55] <skole> fdoving: Found a solution
[20:56] <lzap> hello, I have upgrading via update-manager but because of some conflicts it stopped. now I have sucessfully removed the bad package (tetex-live). how can I restart the upgrade process? there are about 30 % packages to upgrade....
[20:56] <skole> *?
[20:56] <lzap> sorr, I *was* upgrading via update-manager but because of some conflicts it stopped. now I have sucessfully removed the bad package (tetex-live). how can I restart the upgrade process? there are about 30 % packages to upgrade....
[20:56] <fdoving> skole: no, haven't started looking for one yet.
[20:57] <skole> fdoving: Then I will have to be patient then.
[20:57] <The3055> Hi
[20:58] <The3055> mime application/octet-stream
[20:58] <The3055> impossible to find the type
[20:58] <The3055> what does it  theat mean
[20:58] <The3055> ?
[21:00] <SudoKing> SudoKing needs help on upgrading to gutsy gibbon
[21:02] <g2g591> lzap:just type sudo apt-get upgrade, because your sources already got changed over if it started downloading
[21:02] <dope> i'm using the alternate install cd.  will it let me partition or just overwrite my whole drive?
[21:02] <SudoKing> it should let you partition
[21:02] <fdoving> dope: you'll get to choose.
[21:03] <dope> is it like the gui one?
[21:03] <fdoving> more advanced, but yeah.
[21:03] <dope> damn i don't need more advanced lol
[21:05]  * modjo salutes everybody
[21:06] <markgreene> I downloaded frostwire and installed using the .deb file. When I run it I am told that my java version is too new. i cannot find 1.4 in the package manager. can someone help?
[21:06] <modjo> ne1 here has used kxmame cheats?
[21:06] <Modjo> ne1 here plays kxmame at least?
[21:06] <lzap> g2g591: thanks, it seems its ok with it, I go reboot
[21:07] <Modjo> anyone here plays kxmame?
[21:08] <Nyle> well that passworldless ssh gave me some trouble
[21:08] <Nyle> apparantly I had a few stale DCOP sessions
[21:08] <Nyle> couldn't connect to amarok but i fixed it
[21:09] <kyron> Q: is it a known/common problem that Adept Updater crashes on a fresh install of 7.01 (after downloading quite a few packages
[21:10] <Modjo> anyone here plays kxmame at all??
[21:10] <junkie> Okay
[21:10] <junkie> Still no luck
[21:10] <junkie> Any ideas?
[21:11] <dope> ok so i extract the ubuntu cd to my busted linux partition and am booting from grub into like a pseudo liveCD environment cause it's going to ram.  will i be able to format and install just like the live cd or do i need to mount something or something and install from there?
[21:11] <pier> what is the name of the software to run windows xp on linux
[21:11] <dope> vmware
[21:11] <pier> ??
[21:11] <dope> or wine?
[21:11] <ScorpKing> virtualbox?
[21:12] <dope> or that
[21:12] <pier> what is the name of the software to run windows xp on linux
[21:12] <pier> ??
[21:12] <Modjo> wine
[21:12] <dope> vmware
[21:12] <Modjo> the name of the software ir WINE
[21:13] <pier> thx
[21:13] <gnomefreak> wine wont run windows xp
[21:13] <Modjo> as in WIN Emulation
[21:13] <dope> to run windows programs is wine
[21:13] <Modjo> you shure?
[21:13] <dope> to run windows is vmware
[21:13] <gnomefreak> im very sure
[21:13] <tape-deck> pier, vmware-server. Download and install from the vmware website
[21:13] <ScorpKing> !wine
[21:13] <ubot3> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:13] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:13] <Modjo> !kxmame
[21:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kxmame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:13] <Modjo> :@
[21:13] <Modjo> anyone here plays kxmame at all??
[21:13] <gnomefreak> wine will run games and crap, vmware or alike for full os
[21:14] <dope> if i'm booting linux from a partition into memory like a live cd can i install to that partition i booted from?
[21:15] <pier> i'm using kubuntu wich version i have to download ??
[21:15] <dope> nobody knows?
[21:15] <junkie> The screen resolution should be 1280x1024, but it is 800x600. And in the system settings it only goes to 800x600 max :|
[21:16] <dope> junkie:  if you go to ubuntuforums.org and search for resolution you'll find your answer
[21:16] <engLstraene> u have to install driver for your grafik card
[21:16] <g2g591> pier:for wine, just download the ubuntu version
[21:16] <pier> how can i download it ?
[21:17] <g2g591> pier:for software packages, ubuntu=kubuntu unless it has an alternate
[21:17] <Modjo> anyone here plays kxmame at all??
[21:17] <stdin> pier: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for install instructions
[21:17] <pier> ok
[21:17] <g2g591> pier:just use apt, "sudo apt-get install wine"
[21:17] <pier> merci
[21:18] <dope> if i'm booting linux from a partition into memory like a live cd can i install to that partition i booted from?
[21:18] <Gannondorf> Could someone help me out with a battery monitor?
[21:19] <Gannondorf> ?
[21:19] <pier> i have write the link in konsole but ta goes on a thing like this :
[21:19] <pier> root@pier-laptop:/home/pier# "sudo apt-get install wine"
[21:19] <pier> bash: sudo apt-get install wine: command not found
[21:19] <pier> root@pier-laptop:/home/pier# apt-get install wine"
[21:19] <pier> >
[21:20] <pier> after this that do nothing
[21:20] <sj> pier: don't use the quotes
[21:20] <dope> if you're root then you don't need to use sudo at the beginning
[21:20] <Gannondorf> pier: you need to download the source
[21:20] <stdin> pier: don't put the quotes in, and don't paste large posts in here
[21:20] <Gannondorf> when I installeed wine, you couldn't get it from the repos
[21:20] <pier> what is the quote
[21:20] <ScorpKing> "
[21:20] <dope> pier: use the package manager
[21:20] <Gannondorf> stdin: could you help me out with a battery monitor?'
[21:21] <engLstraene> only copy: sudo apt-get install wine
[21:21] <stdin> pier: there is #kubuntu-fr for french language support too
[21:21] <stdin> Gannondorf: you have to explain the problem first
[21:21] <dope> pier: use the package manager
[21:21] <dope> if i'm booting linux from a partition into memory like a live cd can i install to that partition i booted from?
[21:21] <ScorpKing> Gannondorf: i can see the battery status on my laptop but i'm not sure what the package for Power Manager is called
[21:21] <Gannondorf> stdin: I need a battery monitor for my laptop
[21:22] <Gannondorf> In GNOME it displays the monitor fine, but kde doesn't have one preinstalled
[21:22] <stdin> Gannondorf: it does, should autostart
[21:22] <Gannondorf> mine doesnt
[21:22] <Gannondorf> no battery monitor on here
[21:22] <stdin> Gannondorf: try pressing Alt-F2 and put in "guidance-power-manager"
[21:23] <Modjo> anyone here plays kxmame at all??
[21:23] <Gannondorf> there it is
[21:23] <Gannondorf> thanks
[21:23] <Gannondorf> wait
[21:23] <Gannondorf> how do i get it to auto-start?
[21:23] <compilerwriter> Good Day My Lords, Ladies, and Gentlemen, {just in case though somehow I think not likely} Your Majestys and Your Holinesses.  Is there and easy way in Gutsy to set up XDMCP or do I have to editing a bunch of xserver files still?
[21:24] <stdin> Gannondorf: it should autostart every time if it's still running when you log out. try testing it now
[21:24] <Gannondorf> ok
[21:24] <Gannondorf> I will
[21:25] <dope> if i'm booting linux from a partition into memory like a live cd can i install to that partition i booted from?
[21:25] <ScorpKing> "The following packages have unmet dependencies: sysv-rc-bootsplash: Depends: sysv-rc (>= 2.86.ds1-20) but 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu18 is installed."
[21:25] <ScorpKing> where can i find the correct one?
[21:26] <ScorpKing> dope: try asking in ##linux and #ubuntu as well.
[21:26] <dope> already am
[21:26] <ScorpKing> heh
[21:26] <dope> nobody seems to know i guess
[21:26] <stdin> compilerwriter: all you need is something like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42505/ in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[21:27] <dope> stdin: you know anything about booting from a partition?
[21:27] <dope> into memory
[21:27] <ScorpKing> dope: if you boot from the partition it will be mounted so i don't think it will allow you to install on it unless you unmount it.
[21:28] <stdin> dope: no, I just do "normal" boots
[21:28] <dope> it's booting into memory
[21:28] <ScorpKing> how?
[21:28] <sj> just curious, is anybody here involved in creating a fix for the 7.10 + ati "blank screen on startup" bug?
[21:28] <j83> hello pls tell me is there a version of icq on kubuntu that is workin with icq lite i mean person on microsoft cant send me files thru icq cause icq on kubuntu doesnt have this function
[21:28] <dope> ScorpKing:  there's a line in the menu.lst that says root=ramdisk something
[21:29] <dope> something along those lines
[21:29] <Modjo> anyone here plays kxmame at all??
[21:29] <ScorpKing> Modjo: no
[21:29]  * Modjo is sad
[21:29] <sj> Modjo: is that a port of mame?
[21:30] <Modjo> a port of mame?
[21:30] <Modjo> mame and kxmame is the same thing, isnt it?
[21:30] <Modjo> ?mame
[21:30] <Modjo> !mame
[21:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:30] <Modjo> !xmame
[21:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:30] <Modjo> :@
[21:30] <andrea> ciao
[21:30] <sj> Modjo: ok yeah, it probably is.
[21:30] <SudoKing|Gone> awk, ScorpKing, SudoKing, so close
[21:31] <andrea> how can i change my language on kubuntu??
[21:31] <Modjo> SJ: have you used it?
[21:31] <Modjo> andrea: have you tried settings?
[21:31] <andrea> i have only english
[21:31] <ScorpKing> dope: i think that option is for the initrd stuff only.
[21:31] <Modjo> andrea: which languaje are you trying to change in to?
[21:32] <andrea> italian
[21:32] <sj> Modjo: no, not kxmame. i've had regular "mame" on a different computer though
[21:32] <Modjo> SJ: have you used pugy's cheat file system? its giving me headache
[21:32] <Modjo> andrea: you need to use system settings
[21:32] <Modjo> andrea: there is a reginonal & languaje icon
[21:32] <Goodgame> is it riskful to let "All" connect to my ssh??
[21:33] <Goodgame> the only protection would be my password
[21:33] <sj> Modjo: no, i've never heard of that, sorry.
[21:33] <andrea> ok i went but i have only american and english
[21:33] <Modjo> sj: thanl you for your time, how do yo send messages so i can see them in red?
[21:34] <andrea> if i chose add language i can chose only those
[21:34] <Modjo> andrea: you need to add more
[21:34] <Modjo> andrea: lemme see
[21:34] <andrea> ive tryed to add
[21:34] <sj> Modjo: i think it's automatic. your messages show up red to me as well.
[21:34] <Modjo> sj: thanls :D
[21:34] <Modjo> andrea:
[21:35] <Modjo> andrea: dont try add, look further there is an install new language buton
[21:35] <Dr_willis> kxmame is a front end to mame
[21:35] <Dr_willis> !info kxmame
[21:35] <ubotu> kxmame: A KDE frontend for xmame emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0~beta-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 378 kB, installed size 1536 kB
[21:35] <andrea> ok
[21:35] <Modjo> Dr_Willis: have you used mame?
[21:35] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  all the time
[21:36] <andrea> i'm trying tnks :)
[21:36] <Modjo> Dr_Willis: have you used the pugsy's cheat.dat file?
[21:36] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  not that i recall
[21:36] <sj> just curious, is anybody here involved in creating a fix for the 7.10 + ati "blank screen on startup" bug?
[21:36] <Dr_willis> i imagine you just copy it to the right make/dats or cheats dir or somthing similer
[21:37] <Modjo> Dr_willis: can i send you a link that explain how to install it for win, and maybe you can help me understand how to do it for kubuntu?
[21:37] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  i guess so. Proberly you just need to copy it to the proper mame directory
[21:38] <sj> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132716
[21:38] <Modjo> Dr_willis: that's what i dont understand, whichc directory?
[21:39] <Dr_willis>  there is a system wide 'mame' directory with all its screenshots/icons/roms/other directories
[21:39] <andrea> modjo i'm selected itlaian like system language
[21:40] <andrea> but if i select install new language i have only english
[21:40] <Gannondorf> um
[21:40] <sj> Modjo: according to this page(http://cheat.retrogames.com/cheatfaq.txt), it says to put it in the same directory as your mame executable
[21:40] <Modjo> andrea: in my kubuntu there are 2 butons
[21:40] <Wii> omg
[21:40] <bleubeard> is there something like awn for kde?
[21:40] <Modjo> sj: which one is my executable?
[21:41] <Weee> finally
[21:41] <Weee> My battery monitor isnt autostarting
[21:41] <Dr_willis> !find mame
[21:41] <ubotu> Found: kxmame, xmame-common, xmame-gl, xmame-sdl, xmame-svga (and 2 others)
[21:41] <Dr_willis> !info kxmame
[21:41] <ubotu> kxmame: A KDE frontend for xmame emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0~beta-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 378 kB, installed size 1536 kB
[21:41] <Modjo> andrea: one is add languaje i also have only english
[21:42] <andrea> ok like me
[21:42] <Dr_willis> My sources.list seems to be all messed up
[21:42] <Weee> My battery monitor isnt autostarting
[21:42] <sj> Modjo: open up the command line and type the following (without quotes): "which kxmame" or "which xmame". it should give you the directory it is in
[21:42] <Modjo> andrea: BUT theres is "install new languaje"
[21:42] <Weee> need help getting battery monitor to autostart
[21:42] <Modjo> andrea: can you see it?
[21:43] <andrea> yes
[21:43] <Weee> need help getting battery monitor to autostart
[21:43] <Modjo> andrea: click on it, it should ask your your password, right?
[21:43] <andrea> yes
[21:43] <andrea> but i cant chose other languages
[21:43] <Modjo> sj: /usr/bin/kxmame
[21:43] <Modjo> andrea: it opened me a window with LOTS of languajes
[21:44] <andrea> no i havent :(
[21:44] <Weee> !find power
[21:44] <ubotu> Found: gnome-power-manager, installation-guide-powerpc, kde-guidance-powermanager, powermanagement-interface, powermgmt-base (and 19 others)
[21:44] <andrea> only english
[21:44] <pay> hey i have troubles with sudo and dolphin is there somebody who can help me?
[21:44] <Modjo> andrea: thats all i con do for you :( i haven o more ideas
[21:44] <Weee> !kde-guidance-powermanager
[21:44] <Weee> !kde-guidance-powermanager
[21:45] <andrea> thank u very much
[21:45] <Weee> !info kde-guidance-powermanager
[21:45] <ubotu> kde-guidance-powermanager: HAL based power manager applet. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0svn20070928-0ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 69 kB, installed size 356 kB
[21:45] <Modjo> andrea: no problem :D
[21:45] <andrea> i will try other ways
[21:45] <andrea> :)
[21:45] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[21:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[21:46] <Doobeh> Anyone know of a good resource for figuring out how to get hibernation working?
[21:46] <sj> Modjo: hold on a sec, I'm gonna install kxmame and examine its directories
[21:47] <Weee> need help getting battery monitor to autostart
[21:47] <Dr_willis> mame has a system directory with all its stuff in it.
[21:47] <Modjo> sj: i copied the game, then the faq says i need to edit a cfg file, which im looking
[21:47] <Dr_willis> its like /usr/games/mame/ or similer. :) installing it now to check.
[21:48] <Modjo> Dr_willis: it ways the executable, and it it on /usr/bin/kxmame
[21:48] <Dr_willis> i would say fastst to update the locatedb and use 'locate mame'
[21:48] <Modjo> i /usr/bin
[21:48] <Dr_willis> the path to the executable is NOT where the roms and data files go
[21:49] <Modjo> but in looking for where the cheats.dat files go
[21:49] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  update the locate datgabase then use locate cheats.dat
[21:49] <sj> Dr_willis: do you figure it could be in /usr/share/kxmame or something along those lines?
[21:49] <Dr_willis> they go in the system wide dir.
[21:49] <Dr_willis> sj,  it will be like /usr/share/mame
[21:50] <ScorpKing> Weee: put a link to it in .kde/Autostart/
[21:50] <Modjo> DR_willis and sj dont you see its kinda tricky :\
[21:50] <Weee> you mean /.kde/autostart?
[21:50] <Modjo> theres are really good faqs for win32 but not for linux
[21:51] <Dr_willis> its NOt tricky at all.. all mame data/rom/ and related files go in a directory thats defined by the mame config files
[21:51] <hrisi> alguno que hable español??? por favor
[21:51] <Modjo> hrisi: yo soy de monterrey mexico
[21:51] <ScorpKing> !es
[21:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:51] <Weee> hrisi: #kubuntu-es
[21:51] <Weee> !en
[21:51] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:51] <ScorpKing> Weee: yes
[21:51] <Weee> can do
[21:52] <Modjo> hrisi: teclea "/j ubuntu-es" sin las comillas, te mandara al canal en espa;ol
[21:52] <Weee> scorpking: where is the program located?
[21:52] <Modjo> !ita
[21:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ita - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:52] <Modjo> !it
[21:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:52] <Dr_willis> fire up the package manager and look at what all the mame package installed. :)
[21:52] <chris_> Hello
[21:52] <ScorpKing> Weee: heh. no idea. type - which <name>
[21:53] <chris_> my mouse keeps loosing sync.... with my system...
[21:53] <chris_> (when i use the synaptic side scroller bar on my laptop)
[21:53] <ScorpKing> Weee: where <name> is the appname
[21:53] <Modjo> chis_: do you have a mousepad?
[21:53] <chris_> yes
[21:54] <Modjo> chis_: then i have no idea :D
[21:54] <chris_> i didn't have this problem on 7.04 :(
[21:54] <Dr_willis> in /etc/xmame/xmamerc/cheat_file  --------->            /usr/share/games/xmame/cheat.dat
[21:54] <ScorpKing> lol
[21:54] <Dr_willis> the cheat.dat file therefor should go to /usr/share/games/xmame/cheat.dat
[21:54] <chris_> how do i fix this?
[21:55] <chris_> it is driving me nuts...
[21:55] <Modjo> dr_willis
[21:56] <chris_> Modjo, do u know how i can fix it?
[21:56] <Weee> scorpking: I can't find /.kde
[21:56] <Modjo> i dont have the permision to do it
[21:56] <ScorpKing> Weee: /home/you/.kde
[21:56] <Modjo> chris_ try a new mouse: maybe its your mouse
[21:56] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  well think a little. :)  its in a system dir.. therefor you MUST use root access to copy to it.
[21:56] <engLstraene> Weee $HOME/.kde/autostart
[21:56] <Dr_willis> sudo cp cheat.dat  /usr/share/games/xmame/cheat.dat
[21:57] <Modjo> is there a way yo do it with the graphic intergface?
[21:57] <Dr_willis> each user could have their own .xmamerc file also with different settings if you wanted it to be just a single user only
[21:57] <ScorpKing> Weee: /home/you/.kde/Autostart/ - must be a capital A
[21:57] <chris_> Modjo, this didn't happen on 7.04 of ubuntu/kbuntu just in 7.10 of both..., i reported it as a ubuntu bug when i first found it but no one has responded to the bug...
[21:57] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  i just gave you the exact command that did it.
[21:57] <Modjo> dr_willis :yes im trying it as we speak, but im just asking because im ignorant
[21:58] <Modjo> chris_:try another mouse, for real
[21:58] <Dr_willis> mame is a very complex and very configurable system . :)  lots of config files all over the place.
[21:58] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  you DID put your mame roms in the  /usr/share/games/xmame/roms directory?
[21:58] <chris_> i tried my friends wireless mouse and it works...
[21:59] <chris_> no problem..., just on the snyaptic mouse...
[21:59] <Modjo> chris_ : its your mouse
[21:59] <Weee> Scorpking: how do i find the app again?
[21:59] <Modjo> dr_willis: no i didnt coz i set a new rom path
[21:59] <hrisi> modjo gracias
[21:59] <ScorpKing> Weee: which <app>
[21:59] <chris_> Modjo, i tried it on my dads laptop (same type...) and same problem...
[21:59] <chris_> how is it the mouse?
[21:59] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  you could of set a new path to that cheat file i imagine the same way :)
[21:59] <ScorpKing> Weee: or whereis
[21:59] <Modjo> dr
[22:00] <Modjo> dr_willis: no, coz i set it up using the front end GUI, but it doesnt have it for setting a new path for the cheats.dat file
[22:00] <Dr_willis> you can set everything from the /home/USERNAME/.xmame/xmamerc  file
[22:01] <chris_> Modjo, even if it was the mouse..., how come the problem does not happen in 7.04 or on an upgrade?, only on fresh installs i get this problem...
[22:01] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  i see a setting for the cheat.dat path in kxmame's settings
[22:01] <Weee> ScorpKing: just copy  the file to autostart?
[22:01] <Dr_willis> kxmame -> settings -> directories --> 3rd tab. aobut 3 items down
[22:02] <Modjo> Dr_willis : in ythe GUI or in the xmamerc file?
[22:02] <shinda> anyone here familiar with setting up big desktop using fglrx?
[22:02] <Modjo> ALLL : brb going toi the bathr
[22:02] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  its rigt there in the kxmame settings area
[22:02] <Dr_willis> whhich i imagine edit the xmamerc file
[22:02] <ScorpKing> Weee: no. create a app link. same as the links in the kmenu and on the desktop
[22:02] <sj> Dr_willis: i see it too.
[22:02] <sj> the value for mine is: /usr/lib/games/xmame/cheat.dat
[22:03] <Weee> scorpking: I do that how?
[22:03] <Dr_willis> sj,  logical eh? :)
[22:03] <Dr_willis> now i got to track down my mame roms.. :)
[22:03] <sj> Dr_willis: heh...oh well
[22:03] <Modjo> Dr_willis: can you lead me to it?
[22:03] <ScorpKing> Weee: go to that folder, right-click --> create new --> link to application.
[22:03] <Modjo> Dr_willis: i cant find  it
[22:04] <Ace2016> ScorpKing: does that create a symlink or some other kind of link?
[22:04] <Modjo> Dr_willis: OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, in additional paths
[22:04] <Modjo> Dr_willis: my bad
[22:04] <sj> Modjo: open up kxmame, click "Settings" at the top, click "Directories...", then the "Mame/mess additional paths" tab
[22:05] <Modjo> sj & Dr_Willis: let me play with it
[22:05] <ScorpKing> Ace2016: some other link i think.
[22:05] <Weee> scorpking: so I go to /.kde/Autostart hit create new, and in the create new box type in the filepath for the program?
[22:07] <Modjo> sj & Dr_Willis: ok, now i just need to edit /etc/xmame/xmamerc
[22:07] <ScorpKing> Weee: under Application --> Command in that windows that comes up.
[22:07] <ScorpKing> Ace2016: it will create a .desktop file
[22:07] <Modjo> sj & Dr_Willis: what can i do? im not really good with restrained folder paths
[22:07] <Weee> scorpking: the only options are textfile htmlfile and folder
[22:07] <ScorpKing> Weee: one sec..
[22:09] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  theres no need to edit that. You can set the path to the cheat.dat file from the kxmame settings
[22:09] <ScorpKing> Weee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42514/
[22:10] <Modjo> Dr_willis, there's a variable in that file name cheat set to 0, the faq said i need to change it to 1
[22:10] <Dr_willis> The default kxmame settings come from that /etc/xmame/xmamerc file it seems
[22:10] <ScorpKing> Weee: create a file and call it something.desktop in the Autostart dir
[22:10] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  proberly a setting in kxmame for that. ;) look closely
[22:10] <Modjo> letm e try to run it roght now
[22:11] <TrIcKeL> hey leute hallo erst mal
[22:11] <ScorpKing> Weee: put that text in it and replace myapp with the appname and make sure Exec=/bin/app is the path to the app
[22:12] <Creationist> I need to manually setup my xorg.conf file to support my monitor.  Problem is, Google cannot find any information about my monitor's horizontal or vertical refresh rates.  What are my options here?
[22:12] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  kxmame -> settings -> misc -> cheats
[22:15] <Modjo> dr_willis: i dont find it, but now i can see the chats i want while im plaing, im just haveing trouble activating it
[22:15] <ignoramus> I'm having problems getting Kubuntu (Gutsy 7.10) to recognize blank discs
[22:15] <ignoramus> I have blank cds and they are always just listed as "empty"
[22:15] <ignoramus> I've tried gnomebaker, k3b, and nero linux
[22:15] <ignoramus> no joy
[22:15] <Modjo> arent blanked discs empty?
[22:16] <ignoramus> well...
[22:16] <Weee> scorpking: the exec: line should read "/usr/bin/guidance-power-manager" right?
[22:16] <ScorpKing> yes
[22:16] <Dr_willis> they are not even formated enough to be empty. :)
[22:16] <Dr_willis> like saying woodpulp is a blank book
[22:16] <ignoramus> The programs state that I need a "blank disc", and that all I have is an "empty disc"... different for ubuntu- same thing to me :/
[22:17] <ignoramus> i turned off dma, not sure if that has anything to do with my problems...
[22:17] <ignoramus> *turned ON DMA, that is
[22:17] <ScorpKing> Creationist: the info is on google. :P i spend a couple of hours the other day finding it. what do you need?
[22:17] <tzanger> why on earth does kubuntu decide it has to UNinstall 200 packages (most of KDE, openssh, etc.) ??
[22:18] <GS3User007> quick question: what format system does kubuntu use on the hd? (ntfs, fat32, etc)
[22:18] <Dr_willis> GS3User007,  its linux. so it defaults to ext3 normally
[22:18] <ScorpKing> GS3User007: ext3
[22:18] <Creationist> ScorpKing: well, I actually was able to find it by looking at my monitor's on-screen display.  Now I just need to figure out what to do with the information lol.  I'm sure it has something to do with a custom modeline.
[22:18] <ignoramus> any suggestions on getting the OS to recognize blank discs?  Should I try a different brand?
[22:18] <GS3User007> thanks
[22:19] <ScorpKing> Creationist: you'll find a few modelines here - http://nozell.com/examples/xorg.conf-fglrx.20060621
[22:19] <Nyle> how do i run windows programs in linux?
[22:20] <Modjo> Nyle: try wine
[22:20] <ScorpKing> !wine | Nyle
[22:20] <ubotu> Nyle: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:20] <Doobh> I'm getting the distinct impression that getting hibernation working is going to be a horrific task :)
[22:20] <Nyle> does kubuntu come with wine
[22:20] <Modjo> !wine modjo
[22:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine modjo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:20] <Modjo> !Modjo wine
[22:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modjo wine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:20] <ScorpKing> Doobh: i gave up. :P
[22:20] <Nyle> !appdb
[22:20] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[22:20] <Doobh> ScorpKing-- I'm pretty close to that stage too :)
[22:21] <ScorpKing> Doobh: when i have enough time to sort it out one day i'll try again. lol
[22:21] <Modjo> i cant edit the file with kate coz its private
[22:22] <ignoramus> I insert blank disc.  Kubuntu says it has detected a blank disc, and prompts what action to take.  I pick "burn data cd with K3b".  K3b opens and asks me to please insert a writable disc.
[22:22] <ignoramus> it doesn't even recognize the disc in the drive
[22:23] <ScorpKing> Nyle: not by default. sudo aptitude install wine - that will install it
[22:23] <sj> Modjo: you'll need root privileges. hit Alt+F2 and type (without quotes): "kdesu kate". then try opening and editing the file
[22:23] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  i normally put a disk in the drive.. CANCLE the lame dialog and just start up k3b normally.
[22:24] <ignoramus> Dr_willis: youre here a lot ;) ... yeah, I've tried it every way possible.
[22:24] <ignoramus> with K3b, GnomeBaker, and Nero Linux 3
[22:25] <ignoramus> I wonder if my drive is not fully supported (Matshita UJ-10)
[22:25] <ScorpKing> ignoramus: lol. try another type of disk or get a new burner. :P
[22:25] <Modjo> sj: i was looking for that command all my life :D
[22:25] <Modjo> sj: sudo mode with the GUI
[22:25] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  lets go back to the basics.. :) these are CD or DVD's ? if they are DVD's are they the right kind + or -R for your drive?
[22:25] <ignoramus> ScorpKing: thanks for pointing out the obvious :?
[22:25] <ignoramus> CDs
[22:25] <ScorpKing> lol
[22:26] <sj> Modjo, haha, right on, glad to help. yeah, kdesu is the GUI equivalent of sudo
[22:26] <ignoramus> TDK CD-R
[22:26] <Modjo> then kdesu rules!
[22:26] <Dr_willis> check the 'dmesg' output - see if it says anything about the disks
[22:26] <Dr_willis> Ive had some odd issues with cd's in the past few weeks also. I can burn to a disk. but then linux dosent want to see them afterwards
[22:26] <ignoramus> Dr_willis: what's the command for that?
[22:27] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  'dmesg' :)
[22:27] <ignoramus> k hang on....
[22:28] <ignoramus> Dr. Willis: I get a lot of "Fail"s, "Errors", and "Huh?"s! :/
[22:28] <Dr_willis> like /dev/hdc  ignoring command, or similer?
[22:28] <ignoramus> lemme see
[22:29] <ignoramus> "Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 0"
[22:30] <Fleck> can't install console font... :(
[22:30] <ignoramus> "
[22:30] <ignoramus> [28323.548000] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[22:30] <ignoramus> [28323.624000] hdc: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[22:30] <Modjo> stupid mame doesnt owrk
[22:30] <Modjo> :(
[22:30] <Dr_willis> Modjo,  how vague. :0 i got it working here.. playing klax :) my fave
[22:31] <Modjo> im plaing SFA3, and i want to activate the blue screen so i can play with balgrog
[22:32] <ignoramus> Fleck: The easy way is to download the .tff file and place it in your directory
[22:32] <Dr_willis> I got no idea what SFA3 is :)
[22:32] <Modjo> street fighter alpha 3
[22:32] <Modjo> wait
[22:32] <Modjo> i just fot a cheat activated and it worked
[22:33] <Modjo> maybe im using the wrong cheats
[22:33] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  i think that may be a normal for an unformated  cd
[22:33] <Fleck> ignoramus well it's in ~/.fonts as console8x16.pcf.gz
[22:33] <ignoramus> Dr_willis: So what can i do to actually burn a disc?
[22:33] <ignoramus> Fleck: Looks like you need to unpack the file
[22:34] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,   could try the command line burner tools. Im noT sure whats goibng on in your case
[22:34] <Modjo> the cheats ARE working, but heters a specific cheat i cant make it work
[22:34] <Fleck> ignoramus done, what's next?
[22:35] <ignoramus> Dr_willis:  Do you happen to know any of those commands (I can check google later if not)...
[22:35] <john__> cant mount a cavalry usb Hdd but it wont mount any ideas
[22:35] <ScorpKing> i have a problem installing a package - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42517/ - any ideas?
[22:35] <Dr_willis> !find cdrecord
[22:35] <ubotu> Found: cdrecord
[22:36] <Dr_willis> !info cdrecord
[22:36] <ubotu> cdrecord: command line CD writing tool. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10:2.01.01a33-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 539 kB, installed size 1224 kB
[22:36] <Dr_willis> ignoramus,  thers cli based front ends to cdrecord also
[22:36] <ignoramus> Dr_willis... thx- i'll check it out
[22:36] <Modjo> well
[22:36] <Modjo> drwilis and sj
[22:36] <Modjo> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR U+YOUR HELP
[22:36] <Modjo> gotta go and mess with this
[22:36] <ScorpKing> hmmm. i remember i had to specify a burning device once on a ubuntu box.
[22:37] <sj> Modjo: anytime
[22:37] <ignoramus> ScorpKing: did you try " sudo apt-get install -f " ???
[22:37] <Modjo> :D
[22:38] <ignoramus> Fleck: what type of file are you left with???
[22:38] <ScorpKing> ignoramus: that will remove the broken package right? i want it installed tho.
[22:38] <Fleck> ignoramus .pcf
[22:38] <ignoramus> scorpking: it will fix any broken packages by installing/removing unmet dependencies
[22:38] <ignoramus> Fleck... lemme check
[22:39] <ignoramus> Fleck: See here: http://petro.tanreisoftware.com/?p=46
[22:39] <john__> cant mount a cavalry usb Hdd but it wont mount any ideas ( I am a noob to kubuntu)
[22:40] <ScorpKing> ignoramus: nah, no use. i need to get the sysv-rc.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu18 package from somewhere. :P
[22:40] <WaltzingAlong> sudo aptitude -f install
[22:40] <ScorpKing> force install?
[22:41] <ScorpKing> lol. i meen sysv-rc.86.ds1-20.1ubuntu18
[22:41] <shinda> hey guys since upgrading to gutsy I keep getting the error: /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0: undefined when launching gtk apps
[22:41] <shinda> any ideas on how I can fix this?
[22:42] <ignoramus> scorpking: try here: http://packages.debian.org/sid/sysv-rc/all/download
[22:42] <ignoramus> scorpking: just use adept to install
[22:42] <ScorpKing> looking...
[22:43] <ignoramus> scorpking: add the repo to your sources.lst, udate, and install from adept
[22:43] <ScorpKing> almost done. :)
[22:44] <ignoramus> scorpking: I didnt read your whole thing... what are you trying to accomplish?
[22:44] <mzuverink> I would like to install kde on my existing standard ubuntu, but would like to keep each WM apps seperate(when in gnome...) Ive seen a few threads on the forums, but can someone who's done it verify it works properly and or provide an alternative option, aside from just reintalling kubuntu?
[22:45] <john__> I am trying to mount a cavalry usb Hdd (NTFS format) but it wont mount can anyone help ( I am a new to kubuntu)
[22:45] <ignoramus> shinda: just a shot in the dark, but it looks like you might be missing a library... you could always try " sudo apt-get install -f "... won't hurt
[22:46] <ignoramus> john__: is this the only or primary hdd?
[22:46] <mike-kubuntu> hey, does anyone know how to edit my kde.desktop to start compiz?
[22:46] <ScorpKing> ignoramus: ok i'm making progress. thanks for that link. the sysv-rc-bootsplash package don't want to install. the one i just downloaded solved one problem. now it says that it needs bootsplash (which is a virtual package - splashy). splash is installed tho.
[22:47] <mike-kubuntu> i'm using xgl and it wont start all of a sudden with a complaint that another window manager is already bieng run
[22:47] <ScorpKing> splashy*
[22:47] <mike-kubuntu> also, on my laptop it takes forever to bootup and kdm never shows
[22:47] <mike-kubuntu> i mean splashy never shows
[22:47] <ignoramus> scorpking: see if you have the latest version???? :/
[22:47] <mike-kubuntu> it goes straight to kdm
[22:47] <john__> ignoramus: no it is an auxillary
[22:47] <Fleck> ignoramus nope, the font is not showing up :(
[22:47] <ScorpKing> ignoramus: checking.. ty ;)
[22:48] <ignoramus> Fleck: hang on
[22:48] <ignoramus> john__: you might want to make it primary (for the time being)- people seem to have trouble mounting secondary hdds sometimes
[22:48] <mike-kubuntu> compiz was working, but then it stopped after i ran a apt-get upgrade
[22:49] <john__> ok thank you
[22:49] <mike-kubuntu> in .desktop files theres a way to choose compiz as the default, correct?
[22:50] <ignoramus> mike-kubuntu: the easiest way is to write a script so that it starts on bootup
[22:50] <john__> ignoramus: no it is a secondary for my windows (500 gig)
[22:50] <mike-kubuntu> i linked it to Autostart/ but it runs and fails
[22:50] <mike-kubuntu> it usted to work that way
[22:51] <john__> ignoramus: my linux is on a drive by itself
[22:51] <ScorpKing> ignoramus: i have splashy 3.2 installed but i still get - "sysv-rc-bootsplash: Depends: bootsplash (>= 3.2) which is a virtual package." any ideas?
[22:51] <ignoramus> john__: i'm not really an expert on this kind of thing, but if you have a 500gig hdd, couldn't you just dual-boot on that drive?? :)
[22:51] <ignoramus> scorpking: hmm... lemme see
[22:52] <dac_> how do you change your nick?
[22:52]  * ScorpKing pass ignoramus a few doughnuts...
[22:53] <sj> dac_: type (without quotes) "/nick [YOUR DESIRED NICK]"
[22:53] <john__> ignoramus: I am dual booting on seprate drives but the 500 gig is a secondary for my windows but I want to be able to access it from linux
[22:53] <dac_> ok ty...
[22:53] <ScorpKing> john__: you can read and write ntfs drives in linux.
[22:53] <ignoramus> scorpking: i'd check to see if you have all necessary libraries installed ---> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/graphics/splashy
[22:54] <ScorpKing> ignoramus: :D ty. checking...
[22:54] <ignoramus> john__: What messages are you getting trying to format the drive?
[22:54] <john__> ScorpKing: yes but it wont mount
[22:54] <john__> gona try somthing thanks guys
[22:55] <ScorpKing> john__: one sec..
[22:55] <ScorpKing> john__: http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[22:56] <john__> ScorpKing: thanks
[22:56] <ScorpKing> np
[22:57] <ignoramus> Fleck: Sorry I can't really help you, but you can always automatically install tons of fonts through Automatix2 or Add/Remove Programs
[22:57] <Fleck> ignoramus https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/69314 :)
[22:57] <Fleck> this is it!
[22:58] <ignoramus> Fleck: looks like youre boned for now :/  ... hopefully KDE 4 or a the upcoming kernel will fix this!
[22:58] <Alonea> so, if the upgrade utility had an error on one of the files and didn't complete due to said error and messed up system, easiest is to just download cd and install from there?
[22:59] <ScorpKing> ignoramus: i'm installing epdbootsplash btw and splashy has been installed with apt so all the stuff for it should be there.
[22:59] <ignoramus> Alonea: why not remove and then re-install the upgrade utility?
[22:59] <Alonea> ignoramus: umm, how? I can't get into my system at all because of fglrx is borked.
[22:59] <ignoramus> scorpking: i tried with that stuff last week, but gave up.  Good luck!
[23:00] <ScorpKing> lol. thanks anyway.
[23:00] <ignoramus> Alonea:  Can you get to the black terminal screen? (right after GRUB)
[23:01] <Alonea> ignoramus: yeah, but I have no idea what to do from there and it seems more trouble than its worth to try to fix the problem, especially since its fglrx.
[23:01] <MilesG> !hi | MilesG
[23:02] <ignoramus> alonea: what message are you getting?  "Can't connect to X server"???
[23:02] <Alonea> ignoramus: it seems it installed all the packages except 1, and it didn't revert after the error. So when I restarted it messed up.
[23:02] <ScorpKing> !find bootsplash
[23:02] <ubotu> Found: bootsplash-theme-debian, splashy, sysv-rc-bootsplash
[23:02] <ignoramus> alonea: so what do you see when you boot up?
[23:02] <Alonea> ignoramus: I assume so. If I try to do startx it wont and gives an error related to fglrx.
[23:03] <ignoramus> alonea: it might be something as simple as a messed up xorg.conf file.
[23:03] <Fleck> thanks ignoramus
[23:03] <Fleck> anyone know where to enable bitmap fonts?
[23:03] <ignoramus> Fleck: sorry, that's all i can suggest right now
[23:03] <ignoramus> alonea: are you at the terminal prompt now?
[23:03] <Alonea> ignoramus: maybe. I heard that compiz/beryl came with the gusty which never worked with my ati card before.
[23:04] <Alonea> ignoramus: I am on the computer that is messed up. dual boot. in windows
[23:04] <jtmoney> Alonea: you probably need to run AIGLX
[23:05] <jtmoney> although the new ATI binary should support it within XGL
[23:05] <Goodgame> to shutdown my pc how do i have to do
[23:05] <ignoramus> alonea: crap... I would check (in Windows, of course), how to copy a working xorg.conf file to the one Kubuntu uses to boot up with, print it out, and follow those directions.
[23:05] <jtmoney> Goodgame: sudo shutdown -p now
[23:05] <Alonea> jtmoney: @@...so confused. I hate it when things just don't work...
[23:05] <Goodgame> why isn't it shutdown -s ou shutdown -t
[23:06] <Alonea> ignoramus: I could get on another computer, though I would have to restart my download on there. gimmie a minute
[23:06] <ignoramus> alonea:  or you can reconfigure x ... ---> http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Reconfigure_a_Broken_Xorg_Server
[23:07] <Fleck> ignoramus :)) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=522758 << here is answer! Works now, i have console font :))
[23:08] <ignoramus> Fleck: Cool! I'm checking this out myself!
[23:09] <ganymed123> hi
[23:09] <ignoramus> Fleck: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig     is all you needed?
[23:09] <Fleck> ignoramus no sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config then sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig :)
[23:09] <ignoramus> Fleck: huh... good find!
[23:09] <Fleck> sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config << here you have to enable bitmap fonts
[23:10] <ganymed123> i have problems in gutsy concerning saving programme settings. amarok and ksynaptic do not keep their changes after logging off (amarok even after minimising it). any ideas?
[23:11] <ignoramus> I have to go... when Alonea comes back, could someone help him reconfigure x OR boot using a backed-up xorg.conf file?
[23:11] <ignoramus> Thanks everyone
[23:13] <Alonea> anyone?
[23:13] <Alonea> I am going to switch computers now
[23:14] <Alonea> ok, here I am
[23:15] <bigdad1e> how do i get my wireless card working on my laptop?
[23:16] <Alonea> going into Kubuntu...ok, it didn't stop to show the error, but I can tell you what it says when I do startx
[23:17] <Alonea> lets see, failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
[23:17] <Alonea> atiddxSetup, X version mismatch - detected X.org 1.4.0.0, required X.org 7.1.0.0
[23:18] <Alonea> failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0) and then it says no drivers available and no screens found
[23:18] <Alonea> so, what do I do?
[23:21] <ganymed123> nobody here who has problems with kde settings not being saved?
[23:23] <Alonea> so, what should the driver be? fglrx or something else? in my xorg file...
[23:23] <kaod> hello
[23:24] <kaod> I updated to gutsy and suddenly my ntfs partitions don't mount, they used to work with ntfs-3g, but now trying to mount says the resource is in use
[23:24] <kaod> does anyone know how to fix it ?
[23:25] <Alonea> ^___^. ok, so tried ati instead of fglrx and it is going in, but, do I have compiz/beryl?
[23:25] <bigdad1e> can anyone help me get my wireless card running
[23:25] <bigdad1e> ?
[23:25] <mikedomo> hi everybody
[23:26] <mikedomo> i have a trouble
[23:26] <mikedomo> with kde 3.5.8
[23:26] <Alonea> bigdad1e: what is your wifi card? broadcom?
[23:26] <bigdad1e> broadcom 4306 i think
[23:27] <mikedomo> when i whatch a movie in mplayer or play a game in zsnes my computer screen flick
[23:27] <Alonea> bigdad1e: ndiswrapper will be your best bet then.
[23:27] <bigdad1e> i installed the driver the card is found on eth1 but i cant seem to get it to do anything
[23:29] <bigdad1e> can i download from konsole? i dont have the cd anymore to download form
[23:30] <mikedomo>  i have a trouble with kde 3.5.8
[23:30] <mikedomo> when i whatch a movie in mplayer or play a game in zsnes my computer screen flick
[23:30] <mikedomo> helpme some else
[23:31] <Alonea> bigdad1e: google ndiswrapper to get better instructions. there is a whole wiki on installation. Once I got the right drivers, it was all a breeze from there. the wiki has links to help you find the correct driver
[23:31] <bigdad1e> ok thanks
[23:32] <Alonea> damn...ok, I got in my system, but none of my applications work, including adept.
[23:32] <Alonea> yeah, reinstall from cd will be a whole lot faster...
[23:35] <Alonea> bigdad1e: no problem. at least ndiswrapper is a whole lot easier than video drivers..
[23:36] <Hot-logic> What is kodek for listen mp3 in kubuntu?
[23:36] <bigdad1e> i see thanks
[23:36] <ardchoille> Alonea: Are you kidding? nvidia driver installatiion is two commands and it's done.
[23:37] <ekrengel> does anyone know how to download other flash "non youtube" videos?
[23:37] <Alonea> ardchoille: hun, I am stuck with ati...
[23:37] <NickPresta> ekrengel, are you looking for a Firefox plugin or a web service?
[23:37] <ardchoille> Alonea: Oh, eeeww
[23:37] <ekrengel> NickPresta: not sure..either one that will work
[23:37] <Alonea> ardchoille: it is pretty much hell to even get 3d acceleration. compiz/beryl was simply something that was never going to happen
[23:38] <NickPresta> ekrengel, for Firefox, the "Unplug" plugin works nicely. It searches the page for any objects or embedded media (like videos) that you may want to download.
[23:38] <ekrengel> NickPresta: i guess a firefox plugin
[23:38] <ardchoille> Alonea: If you get the drivers installed, you can get things like shadows, transparency and other simply in kde with kompmgr, no need for compiz/beryl
[23:39] <Alonea> ardchoille: I heard gusty came with compiz/beryl. Does it? I will have to try kompmgr sometime.
[23:39] <ekrengel> NickPresta: is that plugin available for linux?
[23:40] <NickPresta> ekrengel, the plugin is available on all platform Firefox runs on :)
[23:41] <NickPresta> ekrengel, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2254
[23:41] <ardchoille> Alonea: Kubuntu Gutsy does not come with compiz/beryl.. and I'm glad it doesn't because I would have had to uninstall it.
[23:41] <gan|y|med> hi
[23:41] <NickPresta> hi, gan|y|med
[23:42] <gan|y|med> anybody knows why i cannot make certain changes permanent, e.g. amarok key bindings, settings in dolphin a in ksynaptic_
[23:42] <gan|y|med> ?
[23:42] <Alonea> ardchoille: so they changed their minds then? I would like to try it, but with my card it would probably be slow
[23:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> my mozilla is really slow like when i scroll its weird like all choppy how do i make that better
[23:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ?
[23:42] <ardchoille> !ati | Alonea
[23:42] <ubotu> Alonea: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:43] <NickPresta> AT0M1CB0MB3R, like when you middle click and scroll that way? You get like 15 FPS?
[23:43] <ekrengel> NickPresta: cool thanks
[23:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !wmv
[23:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:43] <Alonea> ardchoille: *shudder* I want to burn that page. envy got mine on.
[23:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: yeah
[23:43] <ardchoille> !envy | Alonea
[23:43] <ubotu> Alonea: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[23:43] <bigdad1e> alonea: can you remotely show me how to do this? its been a while since ive played with linux
[23:44] <Alonea> bigdad1e: I can't right now. dinner
[23:44] <bigdad1e> later?
[23:44] <NickPresta> AT0M1CB0MB3R, I believe that is a Firefox bug. Let me do some research for  minute
[23:44] <ardchoille> I have seen some folks play mpegs in their firefox browser. How is this done? Firefox plugin? Something from the repos?
[23:45] <NickPresta> ardchoille, I use the mplayer plugin for Fx
[23:45] <NickPresta> AT0M1CB0MB3R, which version of Fx?
[23:46] <ardchoille> NickPresta: mozilla-mplayer ?
[23:47] <NickPresta> ardchoille, mozilla-mplayer
[23:47] <NickPresta> yep
[23:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: i installed itlike this sudo apt-get install mozilla
[23:47] <ardchoille> NickPresta: ty
[23:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> or something like that
[23:47] <graelb> Does anyone code Xhtml in here by any chacne?
[23:47] <graelb> chance*
[23:49] <NickPresta> AT0M1CB0MB3R, are you using a composite manager? (Beryl, Compiz(-Fusion))?
[23:49] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: nope
[23:49] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: if you can help me with this ill love you
[23:49] <jtmoney> AT0M1CB0MB3R: i'd help you, but your nick is giving me a headache
[23:50] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> jtmoney: ill change it
[23:50] <NickPresta> AT0M1CB0MB3R, perhaps you can explain in a bit more detail. You middle click on a webpage to scroll, move the mouse down and the scrolling is slow?
[23:50] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: both are slow when i role my mouse thing
[23:50] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> wheel
[23:50] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> and when i click the scroll bar and scroll
[23:50] <NickPresta> and this is with Firefox version 2.0.0.8?
[23:51] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: how can i tell
[23:51] <NickPresta> AT0M1CB0MB3R, type into the location bar: "about:"
[23:51] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: should i download mozilla from there website and install
[23:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> yep 2.0.0.8
[23:52] <NickPresta> AT0M1CB0MB3R, nope, the repo version is fine. Do you have "smooth scrolling" turned on? Try turning it off/on and see if that makes a difference.
[23:52] <dsmith_> AT0M1CB0MB3R: I admire your persistance, everytime I come on here your asking questions..
[23:52] <dsmith_> :))
[23:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dsmith_: whatever
[23:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: i have it off
[23:53] <dsmith_> I saying that as a complement
[23:53] <NickPresta> try turning it on
[23:53] <tzanger> so... now that apt has UNinstalled all of KDE, what's the "global" package to reinstall it?
[23:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: ill turn it off
[23:54] <tzanger> looks like 'kde' will do nicely :-)
[23:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> NickPresta: i turned it on and no difference
[23:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ugh
[23:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dsmith_: so far ive fixed alot of my problems myself for the ones i cant i come here :]
[23:55] <NickPresta> AT0M1CB0MB3R, no idea then. Sorry
[23:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ill look on google
[23:57] <dsmith_> AT0M1CB0MB3R: aye, I do the same things. Sometimes, I cannot find the answer to my question online or in any of my books. So I ultimately come in here and ask the 'live' experts. :)
[23:57] <eljefe> anyone know how to enable TV-out on an nvidia 5200 under Gutsy?
[23:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dsmith_: yeah
[23:59] <eljefe> Kubuntu's default install of the nvidia driver doesn't allow for TwinView :(